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| cjwatson | evand: can you upload usb-creator ASAP? I just realised there's lots of stuff backed up there | 12:20 |
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| bdmurray | cjwatson: I found a virtual machine (from sometime this week) in the same state as bug 288479 - would the log files from it be helpful? | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 288479 in ubiquity "Ubuntu 8.10rc Desktop amd64 - lots of files with gid 999" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288479 | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: please | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: I'ved added syslog is that sufficient? | 16:42 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: should be | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | can't get to LP at the moment FROM MILLBANK. argh | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | evand: I think I have a much better set of fairly safe optimisations; for me it brings it down from 18 minutes to 5 minutes | 17:46 |
| cjwatson | which is still a lot but it's better | 17:46 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2921 ubiquity/scripts/install.py: better (and more correct!) blacklist optimisations | 17:57 |
| holst | busy bees here :) | 18:28 |
| persia | I just did an install on a machine that aleady was dual-boot vista/intrepid. migration wizard asks me about importing settings from Windows, but not from the other Intrepid install (machine will be triple boot). Is this a bug? | 18:49 |
| holst | lol | 18:55 |
| holst | maybe its called "migration" by a reason | 18:55 |
| holst | but it would be nice to backup your old /home and stuff | 18:56 |
| persia | holst, That's why I asked, rather than just filing a bug :) | 18:56 |
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| superm1 | evand, I've been trying to preseed an all inclusive list of languages so that there is not any removed when doing a DVD install. it seems that by doing this, incomplete-language-support-gnome's update-notifier note keeps getting triggered. would this possibly be because of these -extra ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62226/ ? | 23:24 |
| superm1 | and if so, will those be destined for entering main and on the DVD livefs? | 23:25 |
| persia | superm1, While this doesn't answer your question, I believe they are specifically in universe to keep them off the CDs, although I may be misterpreting when reading between the lines of IRC traffic. | 23:26 |
| superm1 | persia, well it looks like they are marked as "Suggests" for their main packages | 23:27 |
| superm1 | if that was the argument for them, I think it would still have been sensible to have them in main and on the DVD livefs still | 23:28 |
| superm1 | I'm still not sure if they're what would be triggering this incomplete language support | 23:28 |
| persia | superm1, Like I said, I might be misinterpreting. | 23:28 |
| superm1 | I'm not really sure if this is the "right" way to find the list of packages that go on the DVDs, since it spits out such a large result | 23:35 |
| superm1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/62237/ | 23:35 |
| superm1 | but I figured that should cover everything based on what the seed is matching: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.intrepid/annotate/1369?file_id=dvdlive-20080214004143-ufrdyo921dmq6t16-1 | 23:36 |
| persia | wouldn't examining the manifest and list files give you a more correct picture of what happened to be on the DVD the day it was built, rather than what happens to be in the apt-cache you're polling? | 23:38 |
| superm1 | that's probably a good idea | 23:39 |
| superm1 | well this apt-cache was from an up to date intrepid, so i was assuming it would be close to accurate | 23:39 |
| persia | Perhaps close, but not necessarily the particular combination of apt-cache state at the time of livefs creation + the possibly slightly different state at the time of pool construction. | 23:41 |
| superm1 | well the pool wouldn't matter though - it's just the things in the livefs I'd think | 23:41 |
| superm1 | in any case i'll grep the manifest and match it up there | 23:42 |
| persia | (factoring in that the buildds don't have network access, so there's a delay) | 23:42 |
| persia | I think for non-remove you only care about the livefs, but you might pull from the pool if it's required for one of the selected installer options (depends on your preseeding). | 23:42 |
| superm1 | well passing that same long awk/grep command on the manifest i still get 411 languages | 23:43 |
| persia | I know langpacks on the desktop CD sit in pool/ and get installed after livefs copy. | 23:43 |
| persia | That's close to the number that would be registered in the relevant ISO standard (639?) | 23:44 |
| superm1 | well actually i guess i'm not counting duplicates with that | 23:46 |
| superm1 | let me mess with this a little more then | 23:46 |
| superm1 | in any case, evand if you have any recommendations on what is triggering that, i'm all ears | 23:47 |
| superm1 | more or less this is the list it comes up with on manifest then: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62245/ | 23:55 |
| persia | superm1, You may find http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/ISO-639-2_utf-8.txt interesting by comparison. Perhaps many of those are empty? | 23:58 |
| persia | (or have only a small number of translated strings) | 23:59 |
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