[09:26] <asac> hmm
[09:49] <armin76> bumb
[09:51] <asac> armin76: you have a vanilla ffox install?
[09:51] <asac> armin76: whats the url of firstrun page?
[09:51] <armin76> vanilla?
[09:51] <asac> armin76: yes, tso that you can answer the question ;)
[09:52] <armin76> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/2.0.0.17/firstrun/
[09:52] <armin76> that?
[10:02] <asac> armin76: does that page give you anything?
[10:02] <armin76> 404
[10:02] <asac> armin76: whats up?
[10:03] <armin76> what?
[10:07] <asac> armin76: that cant be the right firstrun page ;)
[10:07] <asac> armin76: as you said: 404 :-P
[10:07] <armin76> it is
[10:07] <asac> armin76: then why is it 404?
[10:08] <asac> there is no version at all
[10:08] <asac> 3.0.2 3.0.3 2.0.0.16 ... nothign works
[10:08] <armin76> yeah, because its http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.17/firstrun/
[10:09] <asac> ah
[10:09] <armin76> if you build from source you get that 404, but if you use the binary from mozilla.com, you get the one that works
[10:09] <asac> stupid stuff
[10:09] <asac> [reed]: ^^ why dont you redirect that "not-locale" page?
[10:10] <asac> oh ... its even mozilla.org :/
[11:09] <ptux> hi. i'm using firefox3.0.3 on ubuntu 8.04 and my browser ask me to save the password just of a few websites, not all. as i've not established any ecception, can anybody explain me the reason of this problem?
[11:16] <asac> ptux: hard to say
[11:16] <asac> most likely a website bug?
[11:17] <ptux> mmh a yahoo bug, then?
[11:17] <ptux> but with yahoo also other websites..
[12:03] <suzhe> asac: ping
[12:06] <asac> suzhe: hi
[12:13] <suzhe> asac: I finally fixed the libmozjs dependency issue, following your suggestion. :-)
[12:13] <suzhe> asac: thank you so much for your kindly help.
[12:14] <suzhe> asac: the code is at: http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/source/browse/trunk/extensions/smjs_script_runtime/libmozjs_glue.h
[12:14] <suzhe> asac: and libmozjs_glue.cc
[12:14] <suzhe> asac: in case you are interested in it :-)
[12:20] <asac> suzhe: cool. let me check
[12:21] <asac> suzhe: you should use 1.9.0.* as maxversion
[12:21] <asac> unless you know that 1.9.* will always be compatible
[12:21] <asac> suzhe: at best that max/min version would be detected at build time for now
[12:21] <asac> (assuming that the ABI/API is stable for the then current product line)
[12:22] <suzhe> asac: Hmm, I'm wondering will ubuntu 8.10 upgrade xulrunner from 1.9.0.x to 1.9.1.x later?
[12:22] <asac> suzhe: and use 1.9 as minversion
[12:22] <asac> what happened during alphas is at best unknown
[12:23] <asac> suzhe: most likely we will go for 1.9.1 as default in 9.04
[12:23] <asac> suzhe: but we allow users to install 1.9.1 next to 1.9.0 already
[12:23] <asac> suzhe: install xulrunner-1.9.1 (and firefox-3.1) from fta archive if you want to test
[12:23] <suzhe> asac: how about having a configure option to specify it? so that packagers can change it without changing the source code.
[12:23] <suzhe> asac: I'll have a try.
[12:24] <asac> suzhe: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive
[12:24] <suzhe> asac: thanks.
[12:24] <asac> suzhe: i have to think abit about it.
[12:24] <asac> suzhe: e.g. where to get a decent version from
[12:24] <asac> (at best using official things from the -devel package9
[12:25] <asac> suzhe: ok. could we use you glue lib as kind of wrapper lib?
[12:25] <asac> e.g. so people that want to use mozjs could link against that lib ... where we could track abi/api for
[12:25] <suzhe> asac: feel free to use it.
[12:25] <asac> hmm
[12:25] <asac> suzhe: just thinking if that would be helpful to have that in general
[12:25] <asac> but most likely its not
[12:26] <asac> but cool
[12:26] <suzhe> asac: actually the glue is generated from a shell script.
[12:26] <asac> suzhe: did you commit that too?
[12:26] <suzhe> asac: yes, gen_libmozjs_glue.sh
[12:26] <suzhe> asac: you can find it in the same directory.
[12:26] <asac> suzhe: and how do you link all this now?
[12:26] <asac> with dependent glue linkage?
[12:27] <asac> let me check the makefile
[12:27] <suzhe> asac: it requires xpcomglue
[12:27] <suzhe> asac: actually I use the link flags from libxul-gtkmozembed-embedding.pc
[12:27] <asac> suzhe: there are two ways: e.g. pkg-config --libs libxul(-unstable) ... or libxul-embedding(-unstable)
[12:27] <asac> suzhe: hmm ... thats a legacy pc thing. you should one of the above
[12:28] <asac> let me check which
[12:28] <asac> err
[12:28] <asac> that doesnt exist here
[12:28] <asac> ah mozilla
[12:28] <suzhe> asac: oh, I'm using mozilla-gtkmozembed-embedding or libxul-embedding-unstable
[12:28] <asac> suzhe: yeah. use libxul-embedding-unstable
[12:29] <suzhe> asac: what's different between libxul-* and mozilla-*
[12:29] <suzhe> ?
[12:29] <asac> the mozilla-* thing is just an attempt to provide something that has the same name as in ffox 2 ... but its at best confusing as there is no such thing as a single pc file anymore
[12:29] <asac> so we should use the "new" ones in new code
[12:29] <suzhe> asac: ok I see.
[12:30] <asac> suzhe: previously it was just mozilla-gtkmozembed-embedding for everything. now we have dependent glue (libxul) and standalone glue (libxul-embedding)
[12:30] <asac> mozilla-gtkmozembed-embedding just pretends that everything is the same as before
[12:30] <asac> i think other distros got that in because that allowed them to build their packages without modification ... but then they realized that they need to change the code too in order to load the glue in the standalone case
[12:31] <suzhe> asac: I'm wondering if some distros doesn't have libxul-*?
[12:31] <asac> suzhe: no. all should have that for 1.9 ... otherwise they are stupid
[12:32] <asac> its the upstream .pc file
[12:32] <suzhe> asac: I see.
[12:32] <suzhe> asac: thanks a lot.
[12:33] <asac> welcome
[12:58] <gnomefreak> has anyone worked on the extension upgrade prosses yet?
[13:03] <asac> gnomefreak: volans
[13:03] <asac> he is a bit busy though
[13:03] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[13:03] <asac> gnomefreak: there are a bunch of scripts somewhere
[13:04] <asac> most stuff should be there
[13:04] <asac> someone just needs to plumber that together to a cron job or something
[13:04] <asac> and fill in missing gaps
[13:04] <gnomefreak> ill look for them in a bit. im trying to figure out who someone is atm
[13:04] <asac> sure
[13:07] <gnomefreak> are they on wikis?
[13:11] <gnomefreak> asac: do you have a bug number for "No description found in plugin database" whenchoosing flash plugin
[13:24] <gnomefreak> asac: what are we doing with compiz releated bugs in firefox. eg: firefox doesnt crash with compiz disabled
[13:35] <asac> gnomefreak: reassign to compiz i would say
[13:35] <gnomefreak> ok.
[13:36] <asac> gnomefreak: no. they should post individual bugs against the package that doesnt have a description
[13:36] <asac> gnomefreak: which package is that?
[13:36] <gnomefreak> looking for the bug atm
[13:36] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 202816
[13:36] <gnomefreak> oh nevermind i missed the invalid
[13:37] <gnomefreak> oops
[13:37] <gnomefreak> bug 209499 is right bug
[13:45] <gnomefreak> be back restart
[14:10] <gnomefreak> shredder is broken :(
[14:10] <fta> ?
[14:11] <fta> mine?
[14:12] <asac> fta: is that a re-question on a question from me?
 shredder is broken :(
[14:12] <asac> k ;)
[14:12] <fta> asac, did you ask me something?
[14:12] <gnomefreak> fta: yes yours or upstream broken
[14:13] <fta> gnomefreak, noone complained
[14:13] <gnomefreak> fta: the start-up page is 404  apache not found or something like that. and nightly enigmail cant be used with it
[14:13] <gnomefreak> fta: hence why im telling you now
[14:13] <fta> the start page is always broken, even for ff. blame [reed]
[14:14] <gnomefreak> ff works fine last i checked in 3.0.3
[14:14] <fta> yep, 3.0.3 is a release, not a snapshot
[14:19] <gnomefreak> 3.0 bookmarks not working for anyone?
[14:19] <gnomefreak> oops
[14:19] <gnomefreak> 3.1
[14:19] <gnomefreak> i saved the enigmail link and its not in bookmarks menu
[14:23] <gnomefreak> working on enigmail issue it seems everyone is seeing it
[14:32] <gnomefreak> ok damnit .96a doesnt work
[14:40]  * gnomefreak think the Mozilla dev have lost htier mind :(
[14:40] <gnomefreak> thier
[14:41] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[14:55] <gnomefreak> ha found issue lets see if i cant fix it ;)
[15:00] <gnomefreak>  <em:minVersion>3.0b2</em:minVersion>
[15:00] <gnomefreak>         <em:maxVersion>3.0.0.*</em:maxVersion>
[15:00] <gnomefreak> that is right :(
[15:00] <gnomefreak> oh no its not
[15:38] <gnomefreak> what is the med-* command to build tarball from .xpi?
[15:44] <gnomefreak> i found it
[16:11] <newz2000> Hi, anyone notice in the last couple days firefox's ctrl+f search is now case sensitive?
[16:12] <newz2000> (intrepid beta btw)
[16:12] <newz2000> I think this is a bug but wanted to check before I reported it
[16:13] <newz2000> oh, just found the checkbox that says "match case"
[16:13] <thunderstruck> theres an option
[16:14] <newz2000> good thing I only made a fool of myself here in front of 34 people than in launchpad for the whole world to see. :-)
[16:29] <fta> :)
[16:31]  * gnomefreak starting to hate enigmail
[16:32] <gnomefreak> not as easy as you would think
[16:35] <fta> gnomefreak, does it work with upstream tb3 ?
[16:36] <gnomefreak> fta: no .rdf version is wrong
[16:36] <gnomefreak> i fixed that but still running into configure issues due to not having a configure.sh thunderbird-3*
[16:36] <fta> well, this is a detail, if you tweak/force it, does it work?
[16:37] <gnomefreak> configure.sh.THUNDERBIRD_1_5_RELEASE and configure.sh.THUNDERBIRD_2_0_0_0_RELEASE are causing one issue
[16:37] <gnomefreak> AFAICT they look the same
[16:38]  * asac feels tired :/
[16:38]  * fta too
[16:38] <gnomefreak> why have separate config files instead of using rules to set options
[16:38] <asac> gnomefreak: is that enigmail?
[16:38] <gnomefreak> damn
[16:38] <gnomefreak> wait
[16:38] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah
[16:39] <gnomefreak> i can unpack .xpi and repack it and test
[16:39] <asac> gnomefreak: my advice is: don't try to touch that
[16:39] <asac> gnomefreak: it comes directly from hell ;)
[16:39] <gnomefreak> what is med-pack?
[16:39] <asac> need a medic ;)
[16:39] <gnomefreak> asac: that it does
[16:39] <gnomefreak> :)
[16:40] <asac> gimme a medpack
[16:40] <asac> ;)
[16:41] <asac> gnomefreak: enigmail needs to be redone from scratch
[16:41] <gnomefreak> asac: im seeing that
[16:41] <asac> that things is really lost (otherwise i would have upgraded it to 0.95)
[16:41] <asac> err 0.99 ;)
[16:41] <asac> or whatever is the latest
[16:41] <gnomefreak> im working on 0.96a just to test with tbird-3
[16:42] <gnomefreak> i just need a pack command for med
[16:42] <gnomefreak> unpack == easy
[16:43] <gnomefreak> none of our wikis goes into detail on the med-* commands atleast none that i saw
[16:43]  * asac migrates somewhere else
[16:44] <gnomefreak> i think i did it :)
[16:44] <gnomefreak> well its there lets see if it helps
[16:45] <gnomefreak> it worked
[16:45] <gnomefreak> now lets test it
[16:49] <gnomefreak> asac: i sent you email to your ubuntu.com address let me know if signed
[16:53] <gnomefreak> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/enigmail.upstream is fixed version just need to med-xpi-pack enigmail.upstream nameofxpiyouwant
[16:55] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. most likely enigmail  might be special though. but future will tell
[16:55] <asac> gnomefreak: oh
[16:55] <asac> gnomefreak: well. med-xpi stuff doesnt work for enigmail ... thats for sure
[16:56] <asac> gnomefreak: it has binary components that need to be built ... so we need real sources
[16:57] <gnomefreak> oh damn
[17:00] <gnomefreak> now if shredder b1 was released we dont need to change .rdf
[17:10] <asac> gnomefreak: we need to redo the enigmail package completely
[17:10] <asac> and we cant use the default med-xpi stuff
[17:10] <gnomefreak> right
[17:11] <gnomefreak> i dont see that happening for a while though (not real high on importance as see it since tbird2 works with our version
[17:11] <gnomefreak> (*
[17:11] <gnomefreak> if it wors for me im happy with it for now
[18:58] <asac> ok ... taking my time off tonight. cu tomorrow (or real late)
[19:05] <fta> hm.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/62119/
[19:05] <fta> asac, ^^ (if you're still there)
[19:20] <fta> nm, the usual symlink mess
[22:44] <nxvl> hi! did someone knows where can i find the "Firefox is already running" dialog?
[22:44] <nxvl> as in the source of it
[23:13] <fta> stevel, i will let asac answer your questions about SLA and policies, i prefer to stay out of the legal/political business.
[23:13] <fta> asac, ^^ see bug 94494
[23:32] <asac> fta: hey. anything i can answer in semi-drunk state?
[23:32] <asac> :)
[23:33] <asac> nxvl: this sounds like you are trying to do something scary. whats the root cause of whatever idea you had ;)?
[23:40]  * asac Nafallo i mean E51
[23:40] <Nafallo> asac: yea. thought so :-)
[23:41] <asac> Nafallo: oops
[23:41] <asac> Nafallo: thats how irssi works. discriminating the poor drunk people here3
[23:42] <Nafallo> lol
[23:42] <Nafallo> asac: I'm sure it loves you anyway :-)
[23:47] <stevel> fta: no worries, thanks :)
[23:53] <fta> stevel, i have a bunch of issues with sb trunk.
[23:53] <stevel> fta: what's wrong?
[23:53] <fta> profile upgrade from 0.6 to trunk
[23:54] <fta> i ended up with no song in my library, and tons of errors in the error console
[23:54] <fta> a huge memory leak, 2G in 10 minutes
[23:55] <fta> several aborts
[23:56] <fta> and no sound at all since it last crashed
[23:57] <fta> stevel, ^^
[23:57] <fta> well, no sound + the leak
[23:58] <stevel> yech. do you have the same issue if you create a new profile?