[00:39] <pteague> if the file for a recording is empty... it sure would be nice to have the option to then *delete* that recording... >.>
[00:45] <tgm4883_laptop> pteague, you can't delete that recording?
[00:46] <tgm4883_laptop> i was always able to delete those recordings from the frontend, but haven't had to do that in a while
[00:46] <pteague> it just gives me the ok option...  if i press the right arrow after it determines it's empty all i get is the message again with the ok button
[00:48] <pteague> however, if i exit out of there (i don't remember how far i have to go out, i know exiting out of the frontend does it) & go back in... if i can remember which 1 it was i can press the right arrow on it & it gives me the list of options (play, storage options, delete, etc)
[00:56] <MythbuntuGuest78> I am shopping for a PCI based TV Tuner card and I need some help selecting the correct one.
[00:57] <pteague> hauppauge pvr-500
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> FYI, the 8.10 RC announcement sent to the -annc mailing list mentions http://mythbuntu.org/8.10/rc, which gives an "Access denied" message.
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-October/000115.html, towards the bottom.
[01:15] <EnderTheThird> Anyone know how Mythbuntu Control Centre forces authentication?  I want to allow no authentication for LAN, but I'm not sure which files Mythbuntu modified.  I'm checking the wiki now but a lot of that stuff is commented out
[01:17] <baggar11> anyone have diskless frontends operational? can't see to get my backend box to host. Not sure if the options I'm seleting enable it, since they go back to default everytime I open up mythtv control center
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[02:52] <crs> Hello im having a problem that just occured when i attempted to add another tuner to my existing box. I added the tuner and filled the database but now it does not see my firewire stb and says "Failed to locate "Error no vaild captures cards are defined in teh database" I have tried deleting the firewire and adding it again and now it does not auto populate the GUID field as it did before dont know if that has anyth
[04:32] <||ChAoS||> I think I am having a basic implementation problem, but its been so long since I have done anything Linux related I am not sure where to start diagnosing the problem.  I am getting a solid green screen for any channel i try to watch... I have posted my logs here if anyone has a minute to take a look it would be appreciated: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2c45ab34
[05:37] <MarcRandolph> Howdy all, Anybody still awake?
[05:38] <tgm4883_laptop> always
[05:39] <MarcRandolph> ha
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> I was about to upgrade to the latest +fixes18704, but aptitude wants to remove apache2.  Any debugging I can do for you?
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> Regarding that?
[05:40] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, that doesn't seem good
[05:40] <MarcRandolph> That's what I was thinking!
[05:41] <superm1> MarcRandolph, are you using intrepid or hardy?
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> Still on hardy :-|
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> Has fixes switched?
[05:42] <superm1> so weekly builds then right?
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> right
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> $ apt-cache policy mythweb
[05:42] <MarcRandolph> mythweb:
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Installed: 0.21.0+fixes18528-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Candidate: 0.21.0+fixes18704-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>   Version table:
[05:42] <superm1> try with apt-get and see if it still wants to do that
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>      0.21.0+fixes18704-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 0
[05:42] <MarcRandolph>         500 http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org hardy/main Packages
[05:43] <MarcRandolph> apt-get looks like it would do the correct thing.  I didn't go through with it though in case we could use it to debug something
[05:43] <superm1> i'm not a fan of aptitude, it's can be invasive and mean
[05:43] <MarcRandolph> hahah
[05:43] <superm1> it's probably because apache2 got marked autoremovable
[05:43] <superm1> how did it first get installed?
[05:44] <MarcRandolph> This is my 7.10 from alt-cd + mythbuntu-control-center added to it, then upgraded to 8.04.  I assume the MCC was what added it originally.
[05:44] <superm1> so there's a long variety of steps though that it could have gone wrong
[05:44] <MarcRandolph> Understood.
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> So probably not worth debugging.  I have no problem with that.  just wondering.
[05:45] <superm1> well since you are the first one mentioning this, i dont know its worth tracking down the root cause;
[05:45] <superm1> yeah
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> The only strange part is that I've used aptitude for quite a few months, and this is the first time.
[05:45] <superm1> if you are insistent on using aptitude, you can type apt-get install apache2 to unmark it autoremovable
[05:45] <superm1> and then aptitude should stop being a bully about it
[05:45] <MarcRandolph> hahaha
[05:46] <MarcRandolph> I'd started using aptitude because I'd read that it was supposed to be smarter, but I guess that may be in the eye of the beholder :-)
[05:46] <superm1> at least for hardy and less it always installed more than it should
[05:46] <superm1> because it would pull in all recommends
[05:46] <superm1> for intrepid, apt-get does recommends by default, but most packages have been set to sane recommends
[05:47] <MarcRandolph> If I remember correctly, I turned that off.  Don't really care to have all the possible recommends.
[05:47] <MarcRandolph> Not for any good reason probably
[05:49] <MarcRandolph> apt-get install apache2 did as you thought - aptitude doesn't try to remove it now.
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> MarcRandolph, you said you are on hardy?
[05:52] <MarcRandolph> yep
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> 18704 tries to remove apache2, hmm.  amd64 or i386?
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm going to try an update on my backend in a sec
[05:53] <MarcRandolph> standard.  i386
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[05:53] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[05:53] <MarcRandolph> np
[05:55] <MarcRandolph> Let me try my experimental machine.  It's still on hardy too (kinda stuck there for the moment while I try to finish up debugging some Dell/Gyration remote stuff).
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, doesn't want to remove apache2 here
[05:58] <MarcRandolph> I'll try my other machine... few more minutes to finish booting.
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> back in a sec
[06:03] <MarcRandolph> doesn't want to remove apache2 on my other machine either.  Oh well... I'll try that next time before raising any questions.
[06:06] <MarcRandolph> I'd love to stay up, but the daughter will be pulling me out of bed in 6 hours, so I gotta catch some zzz's.  Thanks for all the hard work on mythbuntu!
[06:57] <Rellikrats> i'm having a problem with the mythbuntu installation, I install from cd, and it brings up a black window with an x cursor, ctr+alt+f1 gets me to a command prompt so it's not really hanging. Has anyone heard of this problem?
[08:53] <ilikesthemedia> hello, I am using mythbuntu 8.4, which by default is running the front end 0.21 .. i think.  I am trying to connect to the front end via telnet, and I've allowed the front end to be controlled by a network remote in the general settings.  I can connect to the server on port 6546 Ok, but i dont get any text prompts, or responses when i type a command.  Does any one know if there is a service i should start or some place on the 
[08:59] <SteveH0> > I'm setting up Mythbuntu for the first time on a new machine, and it appears
[08:59] <SteveH0> > +to be working, EXCEPT I am constantly getting "Too many video packets in
[08:59] <SteveH0> +the
[08:59] <SteveH0> > +buffer: nnn in nnnnnnnnn bytes".  Does that ring a bell with anyone?
[08:59] <SteveH0> I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04
[09:00] <SteveH0> Uh, also, this is happening on PLAYBACK, not record.
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[18:09] <||ChAoS||> >	I think I am having a basic implementation problem, but its been so long since I have done anything Linux related I am not sure where to start diagnosing the problem. I am getting a solid green screen for any channel i try to watch... I have posted my logs here if anyone has a minute to take a look it would be appreciated: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2c45ab34
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[19:41] <baalsgate> i just upgraded but cant seem to get the nvidia drivers going again ?
[19:45] <baalsgate> hello
[19:45] <baalsgate> anyone ?
[19:45] <baalsgate> cant seem to get the nvidia excellerated drivers to load
[20:00] <baalsgate> ok fixed it
[20:06] <baalsgate> if anyone happens to be here i will be on the side waiting
[20:12] <giver> hello
[20:13] <giver> can anyone help? installed mythbuntu and installation freezes at restart of the pc
[20:32] <giver> any hints on installing mythbuntu?
[20:33] <giver> need some help,installation finishes,but freezes at restart,only way to stop it to remove power,so nothing installs
[20:33] <giver> have to wait a long while for the restart?
[21:01] <giver> hello,is someone able to answer a questio or two? installing mythbuntu,install freezes at restart
[21:02] <giver> it finishes,yet,get stuck at reboot,it never happen,so nothing is written to the hard drive
[23:13] <Decepticon> i just finished installing mythtv with apt-get, do i want to add my username to mythtv group now? and then run mythtv backend setup? or other way around or?
[23:14] <Lunar_Lamp> Can't hurt to add your user to the muthtv group in advance
[23:18] <Decepticon> im getting some trouble with the database setup step of the mythtv backend setup first time run after login/logout
[23:19] <Decepticon> says cannot login to database and asks me to enter info again
[23:21] <Decepticon> what is the correct info i should be putting into this database setup screen?
[23:21] <Decepticon> i cant get it to work
[23:21] <Decepticon> where is the correct ifno