[00:07] goodnight all [02:27] hello [02:27] i believe a computer is trying to brute force through ssh on my server [02:27] is this common? [02:28] CMD_L1N3: Change the port. [02:29] yes. but i was just wondering if this is a common event. i new to the server thing [02:29] or do i need to add some more counter measures [02:32] I'm not sure, I don't think I've ever had anyone try to buteforce the port. Though, I don't have use it within the outside world. I just use ssh locally since my service is on my own network. [02:32] Can anyone help me set up ddclient? [02:33] CMD_L1N3: If you're running the default port, then yes, it will happen. Change the port and set up fail2ban. [02:33] s/service/server/ [02:33] i'm looking for some help solving a problem with getting a dhcp address on a mobo with a dual nic for ltsp server [02:34] what does ltsp stand for? [02:34] !ltsp [02:34] LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project [02:47] New bug: #288478 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Ownership of /etc/sasl2db precludes direct access by Cyrus IMAP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288478 [03:41] New bug: #288496 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288496 [03:42] #baller === fenris_ is now known as e-jat === Ahmuck is now known as Eeyore-Jr [05:13] i can still not manage to get any backuppc files compressed, even the setting is correct [05:16] anyone use asrock boards? [05:30] so is it easy to get an unmanaged vps running ubuntu going? [05:30] there any things i should look into that would help me manage it myself? [05:31] Basic documentation is a good start, but there's nothing exceptional about it. What are you trying to accomplish? [05:54] anyone know how to tell ntop to save data between sessions? === enmand_ is now known as enmand [06:29] Can someone help me with specific dns and dhcp configuration? [06:30] where do I add the autoupdate in the dns and dhcp files, and where do I add the acl lists? === RemoteVi1wer is now known as RemoteViewer [08:13] when i installed the server during the install when u select what u want installed eg LAMP etc i accidently pushed enter to select the first thing i wanted installed but it skipped to the next part and didnt let me go back, how do i go about installing these things now? just manually find programs and install or? [08:22] use tasksel [08:29] moin [08:40] is there a command to list attached scsi ala lsusb? [08:42] nomoa: /proc/scsi/scsi === hjst1 is now known as hjst [11:34] Greetings all [11:34] I wonder if anyone have used or have experience with iFolder? === ogra_ is now known as ogra === lipsinV1 is now known as lipsin [13:33] zul, nijaba, and/or soren_: Please help me understand why this ec2 thing is critical to fix now? [14:11] hi people, is there special channel about using Xen on Ubuntu or I can just ask here? Is there any up-to-date guide for creating and managing xen instances in Hardy? There is one in Ubuntu Wiki, but it is out of date [14:13] try #ubuntu-virt [14:16] ScottK: i suppose vm-builder would end up in multiverse if the ec2 plugin is not separated. [14:17] a lightweight LAMP server should use roughly how much hard drive space? [14:18] er, i.e. ubuntu-server's core + apache / php / mysql [14:22] Koon: Zul and I discussed it, so I'm clear now. Thanks. [14:23] Anyone have a box handy that was a fresh Intrepid install (not upgraded) and has /etc/sasldb2 existing? [14:45] ScottK: no /etc/sasldb2 on my intrepid install (installed from about alpha 2/3 stage), but it has /etc/sasl2 [14:49] The sasldb2 file gets created when you add users to the database, so unless you've done that, it won't exist. [15:08] mathiaz: I think someone really ought to take a look at Bug #288478. I'm sure it's too late for the release, but in the meantime we ought to get to work on fixing it ASAP. [15:08] Launchpad bug 288478 in cyrus-sasl2 "Ownership of /etc/sasl2db is root:root instead of root:sasl" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288478 [15:29] hi all. can someone help me with fixing a degraded raid array? software raid ? === MenZa is now known as MenZaxPhoenix === MenZaxPhoenix is now known as MenZa_Aeris [18:07] any here familiar with ip(8)? the replacement for ifconfig. i want to remove one of my addresses but it's not obvious how. and of course googling for ip is useless [18:12] nevermind. deciphered the man page succesfully === hibana_ is now known as hibana [18:52] hello :) [18:53] is anyone online to help me with an Internet problem? [18:57] if I can [19:06] How do I setup something like this: Internet cable goes into PC (eth0); from eth1 a cable goes into an Wireless router; the Wireless router gives Internet to other wireless devices. [19:06] I don't want to setup the regular Internet -> Wireless router -> PC/other wifi devices, because the PC has slow bandwith through the Wireless router... [19:08] so is the PC a workstation? or a server? [19:09] you could either just setup port forwarding, an easy way is to use the firestarter program.. or setup a transparent firewall [19:10] mariussss, essentially you need to setup iptables, but there are many scripts/utils to do that (like firestarter) [19:13] slicslak_: I am using firestarter [19:13] Hardy 32bit, runs in a vbox VM, uses host networkng, I changed my Host adapter on the Host system, hardy boots to no eth0, although the device still appears in lspci, would a rename to eth1 change this? [19:14] but I am stuck :) [19:14] I've setup a static IP address in /etc/network/interfaces [19:14] I just confirmed eth1 works, but what would the adapter id change in the guest... [19:14] The MAC remains the same [19:15] auto eth1 [19:15] iface eth1 inet static [19:15] address 192.168.1.1 [19:15] netmask 255.255.255.192 [19:15] broadcast 192.168.1.255 [19:15] network 192.168.1.0 [19:15] this is working after I restart the network [19:15] but I can't access the Wireless router's configuration page, which is 192.168.1.1 [19:15] :) [19:16] wait [19:16] I will [19:16] tyring to use ur box as a router? [19:17] yes [19:17] I have to network cards [19:17] In eth0 enters the main Internet cable [19:17] I want to share the Internet connection to the second network card [19:18] so it can give Internet to a Wireless router [19:18] the Wireless router will give Internet to other devices :) [19:18] complicated... I know :D [19:18] not really [19:18] you just need to add a bridge interface [19:18] mariussss: don't give your machine the same IP as the WLAN router [19:19] SchneeSchwarz: I also put 10.10.1.1 [19:19] in /etc/network/interfaces [19:19] mariussss: and why should that help? [19:20] i'm having some problems with a client connecting to my ldap server. rebooting my client yeilds udevd[2895]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ip: Can't contact LDAP server could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=org - cant contact ldap server (i have the correct domain compontents [19:20] I know I am doing something wrong but don't know what :) [19:20] you dont have a bridge [19:20] so traffic wont pass from one card to the other [19:20] sudo apt-get install bridge-utils [19:20] but the other card has Internet [19:20] yea [19:20] hold on [19:21] the one plugged in to the interwebz [19:21] nano -w /etc/sysctl.conf [19:21] net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1 [19:21] sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 [19:21] nano -w /etc/rc.local [19:21] /sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT [19:21] /sbin/iptables --tabl nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE [19:21] bridge-utils is already the newest version. [19:21] mariussss: if eth1 is the connection to the WLAN router, give the interface a different address than the router has - but from the same subnet [19:21] try that mariussss [19:21] I will, hold on :) [19:22] oh that asumes eth0 is upstream and eth1 is down [19:22] SchneeSchwarz: I don't know how :) [19:22] meh [19:23] mariussss: in /etc/network/interfaces add 2 addapters, 1 with information to the stuff above. then the other for the stuff below [19:23] iptables is such a filthy mess [19:23] dude [19:23] all you need to do is add a bridge [19:23] oh mine is doing nat [19:23] not just bridging [19:23] mariussss: in the snippet from /etc/network/interfaces you posted, change the 192.168.1.1 to, for example 192.168.1.2. Try if accessing the router's config page works, then. [19:23] so i have a question above regarding an ldap client can anyone help me? [19:23] i use bridiging [19:24] for all my VMs [19:24] so they get real IP addresses so the can be accessed externally etc [19:24] oh i didnt realize he was talking bout vms [19:24] no no [19:24] right now i have a server and my laptop is acting like the "clients" with vm. but thats differnt [19:25] were goignt o confuse him [19:25] ^^ [19:25] trashguy: Error: "^" is not a valid command. [19:25] SchneeSchwarz: I will... in a second [19:25] trashguy: exaclty :D [19:26] mariussss, do you need nat or just wanna pass traffic to your access point? [19:26] just pass traffic [19:26] here man [19:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router [19:26] you just need to bridge eth0 and eth1 [19:27] rebooting my client yeilds udevd[2895]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ip: Can't contact LDAP server could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=org - cant contact ldap server (i have the correct domain compontents [19:28] can u ping the ldap server? [19:28] well thats the thing [19:28] yes [19:28] and if i wait like 10 minutes it'll boot up [19:28] and getent returns the proper users [19:29] SchneeSchwarz: seting 192.168.1.2 in /etc/network/interface doesn't work [19:29] mariussss, you are going to have to make a birdge [19:29] Rideh: I've setup what you said and nothing :( should I reboot? [19:29] or no network traffic will cross [19:30] mariussss: your going to have to change the ips and nics to represent your network, but listen to these other guys they are giving you an easier way [19:30] :) [19:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router [19:30] thats what you want [19:30] guys, I know how to set a simple Internet connection sharing in the /etc/network/interfaces [19:30] wire to wired [19:31] and trust me that it works [19:31] the eth1 has Internet [19:31] If I connect a cabble from the eth1 to the Playstation 3 [19:31] PS3 will have Internet with the IP I've setup in /etc/network/interfaces [19:32] the problem here is the Wireless router, I don't know its problem :) [19:32] I it won't accept the connection with the static IP I gave ? :( [19:33] mariussss: explain "doesn't work". [19:33] did you assign a static ip on the wirless router? [19:34] no, because I can't access the wireless router [19:34] well [19:34] you have to access it directly [19:34] how? [19:34] and make sure the "WAN" conneciton can talk to your box [19:34] form a laoptop? [19:34] plug in to "LAN" side [19:35] ohh [19:35] right [19:35] hold on [19:35] if you are already routing traffic [19:35] then [19:35] i have a work issue [19:35] your wirelss router just either need to have an ip to talk to the box or set to dhcp or osmething [19:35] trying to get these clients connecting to a server - for business [19:35] Ok, the cable from eth1 is now in the first LAN port [19:35] can someone try to help me plz? [19:35] of the Wireless router, of course :) [19:35] Rideh, whats the logs say on the server [19:35] lol the guy who doesnt know how networking works for his ps3 is monopolizing the channel [19:36] :D [19:36] sorry :( [19:36] trashguy: whcih log do you want to know [19:36] I won't anymore...because I have just access the page :D [19:37] quick question.... :) [19:37] Rideh, auth log for ldap [19:39] odd [19:39] i'm not seeing any logging from slapd [19:39] i see it on client isde but it looks to be trying to auth pam_unix instead of ldap [19:40] is the service running? [19:40] yes , and running getent passwd on the client returns users from ldap [19:41] Guys, thank you very much!!! Everything works now :) [19:41] but i do see the dhcp request from the client vs the server [19:41] and nfs worked properly - it created a home drive for my user on my server [19:43] trashguy: which tells me ther eis something wrong with nss / pam [19:46] Rideh, don't know what you are up to, but you can set loglevel in slapd.conf and default it is going into /var/log/syslog [19:46] Weasel[DK]: i'm not seeing any output of it in syslog [19:47] Help! [19:48] HALP [19:48] does anyone know how to get the dual boot menu back after it has been erased by reinstalling an os? [19:49] you mean [19:49] grub [19:49] ? [19:49] I have a server that is set up with Windoze 2003 server and Ubutu 804 server [19:49] Rideh, have you defined logfile in slapd.conf ? [19:49] PlaneCrazy1, im assuming you reinstalled windows? [19:50] yup and it wiped out the grub boot menu [19:50] yea [19:50] so u go tot boot form a live cd [19:50] know I can't get into the Ubuntu server software [19:51] :-/ [19:51] ok I tried that [19:51] boot form an ubuntu live cd [19:51] and you got to reinstall grub in to your MBR [19:51] yeah [19:52] ok, pardon my inexperience but what is the command [19:52] I tried grub-install [19:52] grub-install sda [19:53] i sthat your hard drive? [19:56] sda1 is the windoze partition, and sda2 is the Extened, sda 5 is the EXT3 partition, sda 6 is the LINUX SWAP [19:56] so yea [19:56] yea [19:56] grub-install /dev/sda [19:56] according to partition editor [19:57] Weasel[DK]: that didnt seem to change where its logging to [19:57] hhmm [19:58] Rideh, hmm at least the file should be created... check the loglevel is > 0 [20:00] Weasel[DK]: just tried it with loglvl 256 /var/log/slapd nothing [20:01] Rideh, what versions are using for OS and slapd ? [20:01] hardy, and how do i determine the version of a package? [20:02] dpkg -l [20:02] prob wann grep [20:02] for what you want [20:03] 2.4.9 [20:03] dpkg -s slapd [20:04] Weasel[DK]: what do you want to know from that? [20:05] Rideh, don't know yet... i have a similar setup... logging works just fine [20:05] i've been dicking around with getting ldap to work properly for 3 days [20:05] Rideh, same versions too [20:05] very very simple config [20:05] just cant get it to work right... do you have apparmor disabled? [20:06] Weasel[DK]: you mind pastebin'n your pam files and such? [20:06] and ldap.conf? [20:07] no problem, where do i check appamor ? [20:07] well you'd have done app-get remove to get rid of it [20:08] Weasel[DK]: do you have rejections in /var/log/messages [20:08] sbeattie: i'm the one with the issues his works fine [20:09] sbeattie: i'm trying to figure out whats wrong with mine ... getent passwd works fine on client after it boots after long session of spamming unable to bind to server host etc [20:09] no, so probably don't have it.... [20:09] Rideh: sorry, do you have rejections? And you should not need to apt-get remove apparmor to disable it for slpad [20:10] BTW, there's no need to uninstall apparmor to stop it. sudo sh /etc/init.d/apparmor stop will make it lay down and take a rest. [20:10] sbeattie: i cant figure out what my problem is :/ [20:11] i've been steadily working through issues, but its been 2 days and yet to see the light [20:12] here is what i've tried so far [20:12] http://pastebin.com/d11b443a5 [20:12] the very last one ln 141 is my latest try, followed the instructions at the website, then below are the modifications i made since. [20:13] ScottK: you don't even need to do that; for example, 'sudo aa-complain /usr/sbin/slapd' will disable enforcement of slapd's policy while keeping apparmor enforcement other applications [20:14] this is what i've done from the client side: http://pastebin.com/d1abcca15 [20:14] True. [20:15] i get spammed by rebooting my client yeilds udevd[2895]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ip: Can't contact LDAP server could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=org - cant contact ldap server (i have the correct domain compontents when booting client [20:15] Rideh, http://pastebin.com/d2353a3be [20:17] Rideh, is see you are messing with ssl... you could try get it working without and put ssl in when the plain is running [20:17] ther eis no ssl in it righ tnow [20:17] those were prior attempts [20:17] i'm on a completley new vm :) [20:17] the last "installing openldap" is my latest [20:17] Rideh, as oyu can see i am messing with ebox atm [20:18] yea what are all the ?one [20:18] meaning the only this level is seached for matches [20:19] oh [20:19] it can be ?sub, the it will work recursive [20:20] brb i need to get a drink been at this for 6 hours today [20:20] he he [20:20] How can I get ssh to work when I mount my server to my desktop? I want to be able to click on the sftp folder on my desktop, add stuff to /var/www. I don't care if it asks for a password or such. I just want to be able to delete, copy, paste, move files around in sftp. [20:21] J-_, can't you make a short-cut from your filemanager ? [20:22] sftp:// [20:22] That's what it does when I mount it. I just don't have any permission to do anything in /var/www in my server. [20:24] J-_, check what group the www folder has and add your self to the group... on the server [20:24] J-_, check the group permissions on www [20:29] Weasel[DK]: How can I check what group www is, and how do I add myself to the group? Or, check the permissions on www? [20:30] !lamp, wonder if this would help [20:30] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:30] !lamp [20:30] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [20:30] J-_, ls -l /var look for www [20:31] is xen support built into the standard ubuntu server kernel? [20:32] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-23 01:38 www [20:32] drbrown: domU yes, dom0 you have to get it from somewhere else [20:34] zul: thank you very much === ogra_ is now known as ogra [20:37] J-_, i normaly create a webmaster group (group add webmaster) add my self to the group (usermod -a webmaster ) [20:39] change permissins on www (chgrp -r webmaster /var/www) give group write permissions (chmod g+rwx /var/www ) [20:39] Weasel[DK]: no luck :/ [20:41] Rideh, what do you want to accomplish, what is the problem. i dont think logging is the only thing ;) [20:41] i have ldap up and running on a server, i have 25 clients i need to authetnicate off ot it [20:41] my client machines can connect as far as getent passwd goes [20:41] but they will not authenticate off of it [20:42] and when booting i have to watch 10 minutes of [20:42] udevd[2895]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ip: Can't contact LDAP server could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=org - cant contact ldap server (i have the correct domain compontents when booting client [20:42] i just want ldap to work. i've done everything 5 differnt ways and everyone of those said "this works, this is how you do it" and none have worked [20:42] firewall? [20:43] trashguy: shouldnt be, but how can i check [20:43] well are you on the same network [20:43] Weasel[DK]: chgrp -r webmaster /var/www doesn't work [20:44] capital r [20:44] chgrp -R [20:44] Rideh, this tool is nice for connecting http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~gawor/ldap/ [20:44] i have a server with static ip connected to a router on eth0 WAN.. i have eth1 connected to a switch (hosting dhcp and nat). my laptop is connected to the switch running vmware with 4 edubuntu clients [20:45] can your laptop connect? [20:45] are you natting your vms? [20:45] Rideh, sounds like a tricky setup... [20:45] or bridging [20:46] firstly you want to get the laptop to connect [20:46] trashguy: my vms are bridged. the server hostng ldap is also hosting dhcp, acting as nat etc [20:46] yea [20:46] my laptop and all the vm's get ips and are able to browse etc. [20:46] the clients are all able to mount exports from the server etc [20:46] the clients can getent passwd and see entries from the ldap [20:46] do you have iptables running? [20:46] on the server yes [20:47] whats ldap 389? [20:48] http://pastebin.com/d69da1578 are the rules for iptables [20:48] trashguy: what do you mean [20:48] god [20:48] iptables is so ugly vs PF [20:49] btw is there supposed to be a /etc/openldap/ folder? cuz i have /etc/ldap.conf and /etc/ldap/ldap.conf [20:50] Rideh, no... /etc/ldap/ldap.conf should be the correct one [20:51] grr [20:51] i'm so ready to dump ubuntu as a server [20:51] Hi, someone can help me? I have a error in this line, but I don´t know solve this error: Hola, estuve googleando yes no encontre el error en ésta estructura de control:if [ $usuario = `cut -f 1,2 -d : /etc/passwd | grep $usuario: | cut -f 1 -d :` ] [20:51] Rideh, freebsd ;) [20:51] well the thing is [20:51] Sorry [20:51] Rideh, sorry the /etc/ldap.conf is the correct [20:51] uw ill deal with the same situation on any linux serevr though [20:51] that they want to do one of the edubuntu thin client setups [20:51] if [ $usuario = `cut -f 1,2 -d : /etc/passwd | grep $usuario: | cut -f 1 -d :` ] [20:51] trashguy: cept ubuntu does wierd stuff [20:52] like changes default folders of configs for no reason [20:52] Rideh, defien default [20:52] its different for each distribution ^^ [20:52] yea yea [20:52] i like gentoo [20:52] Weasel[DK], trashguy: Thanks a lot :) [20:52] lol [20:52] lemme go back to gentoo [20:53] i rather [20:53] bleed to death [20:53] J-_, NP [20:53] then mess with gentoo [20:53] i learned on gento [20:53] first distro i ever used. phase 1 [20:53] portage is a mess [20:53] shrug i liked portage [20:53] the community is lulz [20:53] i like the build flags [20:53] you can do that in ubuntu if you want [20:53] like when i apt-get openldap i have no idea if it has openssl support built in or not [20:54] Rideh, then download the devel pkg and compileit yourself [20:54] ok back to my problem [20:54] how do i fix this [20:55] cusrious [20:55] did u install libpam-ldap? [20:57] I'm having an issue installing ubuntu server.. I get up to the point where it says: "Select and Install software" and it hangs at 6% [20:58] Rideh, can the users login local and/or via ssh [20:59] trashguy: lemme check [20:59] grr its rebooting might take a while [20:59] Weasel[DK]: no [20:59] why reboot take so long? [20:59] because 10 minutes of that spam [20:59] i told you about [20:59] it literally spams that for 10 minutes whlie booting [20:59] spam [21:00] thats obviously an issue :/ [21:00] udevd[2895]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://ip: Can't contact LDAP server could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=org - cant contact ldap server (i have the correct domain compontents) [21:00] it'll sit there and spit that out over and over for 10 minutes [21:00] klol [21:00] libnss_ldap installed then [21:01] ok good [21:01] so i changed some stuff in nsswitch.conf and it got rid of that [21:01] changed from ldap files to compat ldap then _compat: ldap [21:01] and changed netgroup to ldap from nis [21:01] rideh create a gorup called nvram [21:02] your are expierwencing a known issue [21:02] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/51315 [21:02] Launchpad bug 51315 in libnss-ldap "udevd: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server" [Undecided,In progress] [21:03] "The sleep interval is doubled each time (4,8,16,32,64 seconds) and takes a very long time to boot up." [21:03] trashguy: do i crate that group local on the system or in ldap? [21:03] the server [21:03] oh you linked it, i can read [21:03] The problem is caused by the usage of the non existing group 'nvram' [21:03] in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules: KERNEL=="nvram", GROUP="nvram" [21:05] brb lunch [21:05] trashguy: the group exists [21:05] that spam happens on the clients not hte server. but i got the spam gone [21:05] so i think my last problem is making pam autnenticate properly [21:13] hi, can someone tell met how to save the iwconfig in order for the machine have the information in the next reboot? [21:27] Hey guys [21:27] can I reinstall over one of several partitions in an encrypted volume? [21:29] I have an encrypted volume with home and root directories [21:29] I only want to reinstall the root, and I want to keep the home, mounting it to /home [21:29] can I do that? [21:29] (I'm backing up my /home dir anyway) [21:30] bbl, but I'll be around [21:38] is there a ways of retrieving the user/pass of the initial setup [21:52] I know the encrypted volume password [22:36] New bug: #288897 in openldap (main) "[intrepid] cannot upgrade from hardy to intrepid : local can only be used in a function" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288897 === soren_ is now known as soren [23:16] I need in setting up Print service.. on my newly installed 8.04 server edition.. [23:16] where do I start? [23:17] since the server edition does NOT install X by default.. and yet the documentation indicates I should install cupsys.. how then would I administer adding and configuring printers.. ? [23:24] bonez45: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/ looks like it might be relevant. [23:29] ScottK: I am looking into the documentation for the server on help.ubuntu.com and 8.04 which is what I just installed, and it suggests changes to files that aren't there.. [23:30] I'll check that link [23:30] bonez45: For the documentation, please file bugs against ubuntu-docs. [23:32] thanks Scott... great name btw. it's mine too [23:46] Anyone have a good method to capture images from a webcam in a jpeg, png, or gif format? [23:52] apt-cache search webcam