[00:00] <bonhoffer> i just see : NAME | MODIFIED
[00:00] <Jake_> it says can not connect to local host
[00:00] <histo> Jake_: try netstat -ta in a terminal
[00:00] <histo> Jake_: see what port its listening on.
[00:01] <csilk> Jake_, http://www.attackprevention.com/ap/library/nessus.htm
[00:01] <bonhoffer> any way to add SIZE to that list?
[00:01] <csilk> Jake_, that tell's you pretty much everyone you could wish to know when starting out with nessus
[00:01] <dHE> i can connect in my internal server, join in it, but i can't register this channel
[00:01] <Jake_> one sec
[00:01] <pavel-> (i guess i could've pasted the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the livecd instead of ssh'ing to the machine to get it ... )
[00:01] <Jake_> thnx
[00:01] <csilk> dHE, did you do what i said? see what ouput /cs gives you?
[00:01] <shawn_> ... still in limbo...
[00:01] <TedC> Any chance that 8.10 RC will release today as scheduled?
[00:02] <shawn_> is there a way to get the termanal to open?
[00:02] <csilk> Jake_, http://antionline.com/showthread.php?t=245442   < thats a good one too
[00:02] <sharki> re
[00:02] <zerothis> I'm having trouble installing virtualbox. The build failed for the kernel module. and "No suitable module for running kernel found." The installer suggested I install the sources from my kernel, I literally have everything "2.6.24-21" installed under adept. I guess that doesn't include source? how do install 2.6.24-21 source? vbox-install.log <http://pastebin.com/d698a801b>
[00:02] <csilk> shawn_, Applications>accessories>terminal
[00:02] <xenophan> hello german or english
[00:02] <fatfishy> guess I'll just upgrade in 7 days
[00:02] <Jake_> wat red hat linux
[00:02] <shawn_> i dont have a taskbar or any way to get to the aplacations
[00:02] <dHE> cs :Unknown command
[00:03] <sharki> does anyone know how to remove certain packages dependent on ubuntu-desktop without actually removing ubuntu-desktop?
[00:03] <shawn_> all i have is this stupid irc windo
[00:03] <sharki> namely avahi-daemon and gimp
[00:03] <fatfishy> is there a way to undo the last system update
[00:03] <BobbyFerret> TedC: It is released, follow the beta link on ubuntu.com
[00:03] <xenophan> hi i need help with the command alias
[00:03] <Jake_> i still cant get it anyone can help plz do
[00:03] <compton> I'm using iptables and dnsmasq for internet connection sharing and the TCP checksums are wrong. Is this a problem?
[00:03] <Uplink> how can i create a file?
[00:04] <compton> touch filename
[00:04] <Uplink> ty compton
[00:04] <csilk> Jake_, the tutorial i linked you to tells you everything you need to know
[00:04] <shawn_> is there a hot key to open termanil
[00:04] <Kr0ntab> zerothis: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`(uname -r)`
[00:04] <sharki> xenophan: stop reading David Gemmel, and read 'man alias'
[00:04] <pavel-> BobbyFerret, histo: heres the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61749/
[00:04] <Jake_> kk thnx
[00:04] <compton> shawn_: no you can set one from menu
[00:04] <csilk> shawn_, no, I just told you were it is though
[00:04] <TedC> BobbyFerret, does that have the updated kernel with the E1000 fix?
[00:04] <shawn_> i cant get to any thing
[00:04] <shawn_> all my taskbar is invincabul
[00:04] <shawn_> i have irc thats it
[00:04] <csilk> shawn_, how did you do that?
[00:05] <xenophan> where in the .bashrc can i write my alias commands
[00:05] <shawn_> i dont know the system froze and i restarted and bam nothing
[00:05] <zerothis> Kr0ntab: apt says, "linux-headers-2.6.24-21-386 is already the newest version."
[00:05] <TedC> BobbyFerret, never mind, looks like it does.  thanks
[00:05] <compton> shawn_: can you right click the desktop and create a launcher?
[00:05] <shawn_> ya
[00:05] <csilk> xenex, /home/USERNAME
[00:05] <sharki> SO, is there a way to remove avahi-daemon and gimp, without killing ubuntu-desktop as well?
[00:05] <shawn_> but it wont open any thing
[00:05] <writing> How do I make doxygen generate the docs for a project?
[00:05] <csilk> xenophan, /home/username/.bashrc
[00:05] <TedC> and there goes the announcement on -announce.  :)
[00:06] <sharki> xenophan: anywhere
[00:06] <xenophan> no i mean where in the .bashrc file
[00:06] <sharki> xenophan: again, the answer is anywhere
[00:06] <shawn_> right click dosent do or open any thing...
[00:06] <BobbyFerret> pavel-: Hmm, it looks perfectly fine, I am without answers.
[00:06] <xenophan> i tried to write my Alias in the .bashrc but they doesent work
[00:07] <diskin> pavel-, you need to paste  /var/log/gdm/ - latest file
[00:07] <Jake_> still cant connect...
[00:07] <sharki> still no answer to a serious question????
[00:07] <Jake_> any other ways
[00:07] <sharki> removing a package which depends on ubuntu-desktop without killing ubuntu-desktop ???
[00:07] <sharki> anyone???
[00:07] <DCPom> shawn_, alt-ctrl-F1 opens a full screen terminal alt-ctrl-(i think it's F9) returns
[00:08] <Vantrax> how did you install it sharki
[00:08] <Jake_> can anyoen help me with nessus it wont let me connect to the local host
[00:08] <Vantrax> if you did it with apt-get you should just be able to do a remove
[00:08] <sharki> Vantrax: just did a fresh 8.04 install, updated it, and now I want to strip it down to the very basics
[00:08] <Jake_> plz anyone
[00:08] <Kr0ntab> sharki: if you remove a package... and another one depends on that package... both will be removed... period..
[00:08] <DCPom> xenophan, /root/.bashrc
[00:08] <compton> I'm using iptables and dnsmasq for internet connection sharing and the TCP checksums are wrong. Is this a problem?
[00:09] <sharki> Kr0ntab: not true.... I can force removal of a single package without removing any dependencies... man dpkg...
[00:09] <csilk> DCPom, why would he use the .bashrc file in the /root directory?
[00:09] <digitig> Hi. Newish to Linux -- how can I make Ubuntu mount my MS WIndows partitions on startup (or login)?
[00:09] <Vantrax> you want to remove a package that depends on ubuntu-desktop no the other way around right?
[00:09] <Rovin> Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:09] <peleg> Hey. Since I've moved to a new ISP I can't send emails using evolution. I am using an SMTP server which is not related to the ISP (my own shared host). pinging to my mail.domainname.org works. Should I try telnet or something like that?
[00:09] <DCPom> csilk, <xenophan> no i mean where in the .bashrc file <--that's what i saw
[00:09] <kitche> Vantrax: you can remove ubuntu-desktop it does nothing to other packages
[00:09] <shawn_> ok so now i have termanial what can i type in to brink back the taskbars
[00:09] <peleg> I think of blocked ports as a possible cause of the error.
[00:10] <Delicates> Anyone knows how to stop the resolver from querying AAAA records first?
[00:10] <Jake_> can soemoen help me i cant connect to nesuss
[00:10] <Vantrax> digitig they should be mounting already, check in your places list
[00:10] <cs_student> How do I make it so a folder and all it's contents/subfolders have read write access by my (not just root)?
[00:10] <sharki> Vantrax: no, the other way
[00:10] <dulak> peleg: You can telnet smtp.server.here 25 and see if it gives you the smtp header
[00:10] <sharki> apparently ubuntu-desktop depends on tons of things that it doesn't actuallyl depend on
[00:10] <Kr0ntab> sharki: listen... you have it backwards mate... you can remove ubuntu-desktop... because nothing depends on it.  Ubuntu-desktop however depends on other packages.  You remove one of those... then ubuntu-desktop must be removed.
[00:10] <Jake_> can someone help me i cant connect to nesuss
[00:10] <dulak> peleg: if it just hangs or drops immediately it's a blocked port
[00:10] <peleg> dulak: thanks
[00:10] <csilk> DCPom,  yeah, well you missed the previous comments, even so, what you said still doesnt make sense
[00:10] <compton> digitig: Write a script. put it in the /etc/init.d/ directory.
[00:10] <pavel-> diskin: here's /var/log/gdm/:0.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/61753/
[00:10] <Vantrax> yep sharki, exactly what kr0ntab said
[00:10] <Vantrax> he just types faster:P
[00:10] <xenophan> i wrote my alias in the last line of the .bashrc nothing happend why
[00:11] <sharki> Kr0ntab, Vantrax: wait... I think you guys are right
[00:11] <csilk> Jake_, what ports you tried?
[00:11] <mouseboyx> xenophan, you need to reload bash, or new terminal
[00:11] <sharki> so I can just remove ubuntu-desktop, and it won't actually kill X, right?
[00:11] <peleg> dulak: hangs. blocked port, or problem with the server?
[00:11] <Vantrax> yep
[00:11] <xenophan> thx
[00:11] <r00t_> Hi i have a movie i need to wathc for school but ubuntu wont play it,do i have to uninstall and reinstall windows to play it correctly? these are the file types listed:file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Movie.AVI
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/MudBrick.html
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/PLEASE READ(Guide And Further Info).rtf
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick.bin
[00:11] <Vantrax> hence the terminal
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick.cue
[00:11] <shawn_> ... can i type any thing in termanial o bring back my taskbar?
[00:11] <FloodBot1> r00t_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <r00t_> file:///home/r00t/Poultrygeist.Night of the Chicken Dead 2006 DVDRip (A KRG-KVCD) Mudbrick/tracked_by_h33t_com.txt
[00:11] <sharki> oh wow
[00:11] <csilk> -_-
[00:12] <rogan> jesus
[00:12] <csilk> Jake_, what ports have you tried?
[00:12] <sharki> Vantrax & Kr0ntab: u ze people! thanks!!!
[00:12] <dulak> peleg: it could be either but if ping is ok....
[00:12] <Vantrax> r00t use vlc
[00:12] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, so maybe mounting isn't the problem. Yes they're in the places list, but Amarok can't see them, and so loses my collection information. If I open them from the places list, they appear as icons on the desktop and Amarok can then see them. So whatever I want to happen is whatever opening them from the desktop does to make them visible to applications!
[00:12] <pavel-> cs_student: chmod -R 766 dirname
[00:12] <r00t_> sorry for the flood
[00:12] <cs_student> pavel-, thanks
[00:12] <Ahmed-Alaa> Hello
[00:12] <ircd> HI how would i zip up my entire /home directory in like a tar or gz whatever?
[00:12] <Doc8404> i havea circle of death problem you see i run sudo apt-get install and get an error that says run sudo apt-get install to fix the error but that command causes it http://pastebin.ca/1235180
[00:12] <shawn_> um  someone want to fix my computer
[00:12] <lucax> where can i get help on gtk2 themes configuration?
[00:12] <peleg> dulak: can you try? telnet mail.freeall.org 25 ... thanks
[00:13] <Vantrax> digitig they will be mounted as a /dev/sda# and can be accessed that way
[00:13] <Rovin> ﻿Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:13] <Vantrax> I dont use amarok so i cant really help too much, maybe someone else knows it
[00:13] <dulak> peleg: works for me, your ISP is blocking
[00:13] <csilk> Jake_, what ports have you tried already?  the standard ones are 3001 and 1241
[00:13] <sharki> ircd: (cd /home; tar cvf user.tar user; gzip user.tar)
[00:13] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to connect to the internet by pppoe via wireless i cant find my wifi card in the pppoe list :'(??
[00:13] <Jake_> one sec
[00:14] <Jake_> csilk hwo do u pm me directly
[00:14] <peleg> dulak: weird! should I contact my ISP? why would they do that? or, can it be my ubuntu which is blocking?
[00:14] <csilk> Jake_,  I'm not going to pm you
[00:14] <Izinucs> How do I change the "workgroup" name for networking
[00:14] <Jake_> i meant how do u talk to me directly not pm
[00:14] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, so I need to point Amarok to the files via /dev/sda#, not via /media, is that right?
[00:14] <dulak> peleg: usually in that instance you switch your outgoing mail server to your ISPs which should let you through because you are on one of thier ips
[00:14] <sharki> how do I keep up with all these messages is a better question
[00:14]  * sharki hahaha
[00:14] <Jake_> i tried both and no luck
[00:14] <Jake_> idk y
[00:14] <compton> Izinucs: it's in the networking options
[00:15] <writing> Where is the doxygen config file for postgresql
[00:15] <ircd> sharki ok so once i cd to /home i just type tar cvf user.tar user; gzip user.tar?
[00:15] <Izinucs> compton: under "general"?
[00:15] <peleg> dulak: weird. I have never done it before. I'll check... thanks!
[00:15] <sharki> ircd: correct
[00:15] <bonez45> help. I just installed 8.04 lts server edition.. and I can't log in to either root or user... I know what passwds I set it up with, but non work...
[00:15] <Doc8404> no help :(
[00:15] <ircd> thanks :)
[00:15] <Rovin> ﻿Still can't get this problem with sound fixed...tried searching the forums too...it works on my partion for Vista..I want sound to come from only headphones/earphones when plugged in.
[00:15] <Jake_> any suggestions
[00:16] <shawn_> still no taskbars.......
[00:16] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to know what package i need to download so i download it here on windows becaus i cant use pppoe on ubuntu
[00:16] <digitig> Vantrax: Except Amarok greys out the /dev tree in it's file source options :-(
[00:16] <Vantrax> digitig: you should be doing it through the /media/xyz mounts they are the same as the /dev/sds mounts
[00:16] <compton> Izinucs: I can't view it at the moment but I saw it earlier under one of the tabs on the network options
[00:16] <Jake_> csilk u there
[00:16] <xenophan> thanks for help
[00:16] <Izinucs> compton: as in "Domain name" ?  It defaults to workgroup when identified by the network but there is nothing actually listed in "Domain name"..
[00:16] <r00t_> Could someone at least point me to aplce wher ei can find help? i really dont want to format/reinstall over some stupid assignment/movie i dont want to watch.
[00:16] <compton> Izinucs: yes that's what I thought
[00:16] <Jake_> can anyoen help me
[00:17] <Izinucs> !ask | r00t_
[00:17] <Vantrax> r00t have you tried using vlc to play the files
[00:17] <Jake_> i cant find a local host for nessesu
[00:17] <diskin> pavel-, enable debug in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:17] <sharki> jake: wat's up?
[00:17] <Jake_> *Nessus
[00:17] <shawn_> anybody? out there .. well this isent making my choice to switch to linux any better
[00:17] <greghere> How do I change my password in Hardy?
[00:17] <Jake_> i cant connect to a local host for Nessus
[00:17] <peleg> dulak: http://www.lunarlamp.co.uk/bethere-smtp-server ... thanks.. :-)
[00:17] <Izinucs> compton: k.. I'll give it a try
[00:17] <sharki> greghere: just like you change password in any other unix... passwd
[00:17] <Vantrax> !manners | shawn_
[00:17] <ircd> sharki im getting tar: user: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[00:17] <ircd> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[00:17] <diskin> pavel-, it will go to /var/log/debug.log I think...
[00:18] <Jake_> sharki do u got any idea
[00:18] <Izinucs> compton: then do I need to restart the network to get it to take effect?
[00:18] <shawn_> well i'm on my last atempts before i go back to windows
[00:18] <pavel-> diskin: ok, want another /var/log/gdm paste?
[00:18] <sharki> ircd: oh wow.... dude, replace 'user' with the actual username you're trying to archive.... do an 'ls' before running tar to see what directories you have...
[00:18] <r00t_> Izinucs, i have already asked my question
[00:18] <compton> Izinucs: try http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Workgroups.htm it expains how to edit the samba conf
[00:18] <digitig> Vantrax: Ok, I did do it via the /media/xyz mounts, but when I reboot Amarok can't see the files until I have opened the drive from the places menu -- then I have to rebuild the collection (it's was at 20% when I came here to ask about it, now it's at 74% -- I don't want to have to do that on every boot!)
[00:18] <ircd> yeah i did that sharki
[00:18] <Izinucs> compton: thanks.
[00:18] <sharki> shawn_: ooohhh, me scared
[00:18] <r00t_> Izinucs, but as you asked i will ask again
[00:19] <Izinucs> r00t_: sorry came in late and didn't have any scroll back..
[00:19] <Jake_> can anyone help me i cant connectto a local host for Nessus
[00:19] <csilk> Jake_, yes
[00:19] <Jake_> i still cant get it
[00:19] <Jake_> csilk_, any other ideas
[00:19] <diskin> pavel-, yes, with debug, perhaps debug info will go to /var/log/debug.log - not sure
[00:19] <sharki> ircd: the error message you showed says that tar cannot find the directory, so you must be mistyping it...
[00:20] <csilk> r00t_,  ask again, since you asked new people have joined and other people have started watching, i fi randomly see "hey guys plz answer me" how do I know what you originally asked?
[00:20] <joshual> is there an app I can use to control cpu profile when my laptop is plugged in and when its not?
[00:20] <hardcore> in the terminal whats the difference between apt and aptitude? apt wouldn't install xfce but aptitude did
[00:20] <bonez45> passwd issue? anyone know where I went wrong in installing?
[00:20] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to connect to the internet by pppoe via wireless i cant find my wifi card in the pppoe list :'(??
[00:20] <Ahmed-Alaa> i need to know what package i need to download so i download it here on windows becaus i cant use pppoe on ubuntu
[00:20] <Rovin> is Wubi only designed for testing purposes? are there any disadvantages than using it from a real installation of Ubuntu?
[00:20] <csilk> Jake_, did those ports not work?
[00:20] <Moodles> I have 2 computers, 1 is updated to the latest, and 1 is a fresh install of 8.04... do I just need to share /var/cache/apt/archives to get the fresh 8.04 install updated without using my net connection?
[00:20] <Jake_> they both did not
[00:20] <Jake_> are there any others or is there a way i can find one
[00:20] <bonhoffer> i have to type sudo locate foo -- is there a way to be able to just type locate foo without being su
[00:20] <bonhoffer> ?
[00:20] <bobby> i want to use only part of a hard drive for Ubuntu
[00:20] <bobby> how would that be partitinoed?
[00:20] <csilk> Jake_, use this command>  ps -A | grep “nessusd”
[00:21] <bobby> the other half already has Windows installed
[00:21] <csilk> Jake_,  and tell me what output you get
[00:21] <sharki> bohnoffer: use at your own risk: 'sudo bash'
[00:21] <pavel-> diskin: 2 error lines appeared in the log: (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
[00:21] <Jake_> sec
[00:22] <sharki> this should be called #unix_newbie, not #ubuntu, none of the questions have anything to do with ubuntu whatsoever...
[00:22] <Jake_> nothing
[00:22] <Jake_> nothign happened
[00:22] <sharki> weird
[00:22] <csilk> Jake_,  in that case you don't have the server/daemon installed
[00:22] <shawn_> ok back to windows i go stupid linux
[00:22] <Jake_> hwo do i install it
[00:22] <csilk> Jake_,  which means there is nothing to connect to
[00:22] <csilk> shawn_, seriously
[00:22] <bonhoffer> so i guess my question is, in general, how do i allow the non-su user to run an app which requires sudo (locate should fit this bill in my mind)
[00:22] <Jake_> so how do i install it
[00:22] <csilk> grow up
[00:22] <bobby> i have a hard drive, and windows is already on it. how do i partition so that ubuntu can run off of the free space?
[00:23] <jabagawee> !partition | bobby
[00:23] <bonez45> sharki: my question relates directly to ubuntu in installation..
[00:23] <shawn_> this is gay i havent even had this distra installed for 2 days and this is crap
[00:23] <GleepGlop> I'm building a new system. Is Ubuntu 64 worth the download? I have a standard Hardy 32bit ISO handy.
[00:23] <sharki> bonez45: shoot, what's the question?
[00:23] <pavel-> diskin: here's the debug paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61757/
[00:23] <sharki> somebody ban shawn
[00:23] <sharki> plz
[00:23] <dulak> GleepGlop: how much ram you have?
[00:23] <csilk> Jake_, Sorry this isn't a nessus support channel, I advise you read the documentation, nessus is a complex piece of software, I can't imagine anyone is going to hold your hand through the whole thing
[00:23] <diskin> pavel-, ok
[00:23] <Vantrax> lol i never even found out what shawns question was:P
[00:23] <GleepGlop> 4GB
[00:23] <dulak> GleepGlop: then 64 bit probably isn't worth the download
[00:23] <Jake_> i just wana know how to install daemon
[00:23] <bonhoffer> i know it is possible to run an app as local user -- should i just chmod the executable?
[00:24] <bobby> thanks
[00:24] <csilk> Vantrax,  yeah, all he had on his desktop was his irc client, everything dies apparently
[00:24] <csilk> it was hard to get anything else out of him other than that
[00:24] <bonez45> sharki: ok, I just d/l'd the 8.04lts server edition. and installed it.. it had no errors, no issues, but it boots back up.. and gives a prompt.. I try to log in as root and no go.. and then as user.. and I know what passwds I assigned, but nothing works, I can't log in
[00:24] <GleepGlop> dulak: yeah, I might go with Arch instead of Ubuntu on this system and have i686m binaries
[00:24] <Vantrax> sounds like driver issues:P but how the heck can so sort anything from that
[00:24] <GleepGlop> *i686
[00:25] <sharki> bonez45: 1sec, I'll tell you what to do
[00:25] <digitig> Anyone any ideas on my Amarok issue?
[00:25] <csilk> Jake_, http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-the-vulnerability-scanner-nessus
[00:25] <bonez45> ok
[00:25] <bobby> hold on. does installing ubuntu on a hard drive that already has windows on it install cleaning the hard drive and putting your windows files back in?
[00:25] <r00t_> i need to see this video for my indy film class,can someone please tell me how to watcg/burn it? these are the files im working with:http://pastebin.com/m7943daa3
[00:25] <bonhoffer> hmm /usr/bin/locate is 777!
[00:25] <r00t_> the only large one is the .bin
[00:25] <bonhoffer> really it is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/locate with this permission!
[00:26] <bonhoffer> is this normal?
[00:26] <csilk> r00t_, one of those files is .avi  you can play that in any media player
[00:27] <hardcore> how come i can't play dvds in xubuntu?
[00:27] <lucax> whats the difference between i386 and i686?
[00:27] <r00t_> csilk, yes but its not what i need.. its only a min long
[00:27] <sharki> bonez45: how good are you with linux? or unix in general?
[00:27] <digitig> bobby: not if you do it right. A modern partitioner should let you clear some space and make Ubuntu partitions without damaging existing data -- but it's risky, so best to backup anyway.
[00:27] <csilk> r00t_, so what do you need?
[00:27] <bonez45> sharki: I feel comfortable..
[00:27] <bonez45> I am no expert but I know my way around..
[00:27] <csilk> r00t_, i'll assume you wanna play the bin file, have you tried vlc???
[00:27] <bobby> ﻿digitig: I'm installing ubuntu from the boot cd; how would I go about this?  The documentation seems to claim that i have to clear my hd
[00:27] <r00t_> csilk, i need to view the movie,the.bin is 700megs but it plays no sound when i know from my classmates that the movie works
[00:28] <r00t_> csilk, yes i have tried it ño sound
[00:28] <csilk> r00t_,  see my previous comment
[00:28] <Rovin> is Wubi only designed for testing purposes? are there any disadvantages than using it from a real installation of Ubuntu?
[00:28] <bonhoffer> can someone give me a small pointer to how to let a non super user run 'locate' -- i don't know how to ask google this question?
[00:28] <csilk> oh rite
[00:28] <hardcore> how come i can't play dvds in xubuntu?
[00:28] <csilk> r00t_,  how did your classmates play it?
[00:28] <sharki> bonez45: just boot into "livecd, try" mode, mount your root partition (use 'fdisk -l' to see what's available), chroot to your mount, and run 'passwd root'
[00:28] <csilk> hardcore,  codec?
[00:28] <lars_> Hi all! Did the last Hardy update disturb the locale setting?
[00:28] <sharki> bonez45: if you need explanation on any of those to-dos let me know
[00:28] <bonez45> sharki.. ok..
[00:28] <hardcore> i have ubuntu installed and logged into xfce. are the codecs different?
[00:29] <r00t_> csilk, they have windows,it would require me to uninstall ubuntu/then reinstall windows
[00:29] <bonhoffer> sorry, i had not identified and might not have been visible (sorry new at this), can someone give me a small pointer to how to let a non super user run 'locate' -- i don't know how to ask google this question?
[00:29] <diskin> pavel-, nothing related to gdm in the debug log.
[00:29] <bonez45> sharki: all but the chroot to my mount I understand
[00:30] <sharki> bonez45: ok, that's real easy... say you installed on /dev/sda6, so (mkdir /mnt/sda6; mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sda6; chroot /mnt/sda6)
[00:30] <r00t_> csilk, thanks anyways,i need to get this essay in asap,so im going to format/reinstALL windows
[00:30] <pavel-> diskin: didnt think so... looks like im on command line for now lol
[00:30] <bonhoffer> so how to run 'locate' or any bin without sudo -- any pointer works . . . thanks in advance
[00:30] <bonez45> sharki: ok, that's what I needed..
[00:30] <digitig> Bobby: It's a long time since I did it (this time I did it on a clean 2nd drive), but the partitioner used to allow you to non-destructively resize the existing partition. But you might need to defrag first, because if the Windows data is all over the disk the partitioner might not be able to move the boundary. Best ask somebody who knows the current partitioner -- all I know is I've done it in the past!
[00:30] <sharki> bonez45: that'll make it look as if your root dir is actually /mnt/sda6
[00:31] <hardcore> i have ubuntu installed and logged into xfce. are the codecs different?
[00:31] <csilk> r0bby, just answer my damn question, having windows is not the answer, i said how do your classmate run the bin file, it has nothing to do with windows, it has everything to do with the software they are using
[00:31] <sharki> bonez45: then in the same terminal!!! not in a new one, run 'passwd' and you'll update /dev/sda6/etc/shadow with your password, which should allow you to login
[00:31] <csilk> oh he went
[00:31] <fatfishy> think i might be having EDID errors
[00:31] <lars_> how can you get a list of the ubuntu patches for e.g 8.04.1?
[00:31] <fatfishy> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+question/39299
[00:32] <diskin> bonhoffer, what does it say to you whn you run locate?
[00:32] <Vantrax> bonhoffer its just locate <some item>
[00:33] <Vantrax> ie locate fglrx
[00:33] <LightTitan> what's the best application for linux to run windows on top of it? I know there is VMWare, is there anything better?
[00:33] <bonhoffer> locate: can not open '/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied
[00:33] <bonhoffer> LightTitan, heard good things about vbox
[00:33] <LightTitan> k, will look into it, thanks
[00:33] <hardcore> is there a way to make dvds play in xfce? the worked just fine in gnome
[00:33] <csilk> hardcore, yes
[00:33] <tc111> scp/ssh question... i want to copy files from hosta:123 to hostb:456 without copying them local first and without copying directly from hosta to hostb (my workstation in the middle doing the work)... suggestions?
[00:33] <bonez45> sharki: this is the server edition, there's no Live CD option when I boot with this..
[00:33] <sharki> bonez45: forgot to mention... if you're like me and create partitions for /usr, etc. you'll need to mount that inside the chroot (say your /usr is on /dev/sda7, just 'mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda6/usr), u get the idea...
[00:34] <csilk> hardcore, install the required codecs
[00:34] <hardcore> csilk, do you know where to find the codecs?
[00:34] <bonez45> sharki: so I need to find a livecd disc, instead of this server disc, right?
[00:34] <LightTitan> bonhoffer: try sudo gedit /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db if your wanting to edit the file or something.
[00:34] <sharki> bonez45: uhoh... I had no idea... then u need any other bootable linuxcd, personally I prefer fedora, but that's just me
[00:34] <Vantrax> bonhoffer can you run ls -la /var/lib/mlocate
[00:34] <bonhoffer> ok.
[00:35] <sharki> bonez45: any linux livecd is what you need
[00:35] <bonez45> ok..
[00:35] <jdrane> ﻿ hi all...im kinda of a noob to the world of linux admin.  I would like some advice, please.  I am looking to convert fully from a win200k server environment...to a linux (probably running ubuntu) server. But i am curious what the linux equiv. to Active User Directory is. Any advice is appreicated. thanks
[00:35] <sharki> bonez45: I'm not an Ubuntu person, maybe someone here knows a trick with the server cd, I'm not sure...
[00:35] <bonhoffer> . and .. with 7 + r_xr_x and mlocate.db with -rw-r-----------
[00:35] <jimdandy> Hey peoples. I'm having a problem with streamtuner--I edit the preferences, eg. to make totem the default app for listening to a stream, and everything works, till I close it and reopen it--then my changes are gone. How can I make the preferences persist till the next run?
[00:35] <bonez45> sharki: I can boot into other partitiosn. other 8.04 desktop editions on that machine.. can I access it to run passwd root from those?
[00:35] <bonhoffer> Vantrax, is this standard
[00:36] <Vantrax> jdrane: id actually use centros for that
[00:36] <sharki> bonez45: hehe, if you can do that, you can just cut&paste your encrypted password string from /etc/shadow, but the answer is yes you can do what I said
[00:36] <hardcore> vlc made it play just fine
[00:36] <Vantrax> er Centos
[00:37] <jdrane> Vantrax, so are your desktops running centos as well
[00:37] <sharki> bonez45: just boot into the working installation, and do the same thing, mount+chroot+passwd, that's cleaner
[00:37] <RedEyess> broken packages seizing my computer!
[00:37] <RedEyess> libstdc6-2.4
[00:37] <RedEyess> -dev
[00:38] <RedEyess> it's a paing
[00:38] <RedEyess> pain
[00:38] <FloodBot1> RedEyess: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <Doc8404>  hey guys how do i fix this http://pastebin.ca/1235180 and i get that error when i type in sudo apt-get update so its like a circle of death
[00:38] <sharki> if libstdc6-2.4 was broken you wouldn't be talking to us...
[00:38] <Vantrax> jdrane, no but the linux servers we have are running CentOS, the desktops are running ubuntu
[00:38] <RedEyess> it's not allowing me to install it through the upgrade
[00:38] <Vantrax> CentOS is kinda like readhat but better package management
[00:39] <sharki> Vantrax: oh yeah? how so??? (I'm really interested as an SA)
[00:39] <jdrane> so you created the users using selinux in Cedntos on the server
[00:39] <sharki> Vantrax: is it 'yummier'??? :))))
[00:39] <Doc8404> csilk_
[00:39] <jdrane> centos
[00:39] <Doc8404> csilk
[00:39] <epuck> I think a good alternative to ms active dir is ldap!
[00:39] <Vantrax> lol
[00:40] <sharki> epuck == epicfail
[00:40] <csilk> Doc8404, ?
[00:40] <Doc8404> csilk how do i fix this http://pastebin.ca/1235180 and i get that error when i type in sudo apt-get update so its like a circle of death
[00:40] <sharki> epuck: AD is an LDAP ripoff
[00:40] <sharki> literally
[00:40] <sharki> down to the source
[00:40] <jimdandy> Will someone please help me fix my streamtuner?
[00:40] <epuck> ok hehe
[00:41] <csilk> Doc8404, I like the way you pick me out to fix your problem even though I've never spoken to you before -_-
[00:41] <Vantrax> sharki: Good writeup here: http://www.singlehop.com/blog/2007/01/31/decision-time-centos-vs-rhel/
[00:41] <eddVRS> lol
[00:41] <digitig> csilk: Fame at last?
[00:41] <csilk> Doc8404,  anyway, simple fix remove the following line from you /etc/apt/sources.list  http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty/eyecandy Packages
[00:41] <Vantrax> basically they are the same but CentOS is a little more safe with its package updates
[00:42] <jimdandy> Hi, would someone please help me with my streamtuner problem?
[00:42] <jdrane> basically i have a small school, that has a P>O>S server , the user groups are brokens down into admin, faculity, and student, then again into respected user folders, with permissions. i want to dup. that in a linux  environ.
[00:42] <Doc8404> csilk yes you have
[00:42] <Rovin> hello, on the Ubuntu forums - where is the thread Notification option (if there is one).. :S
[00:42] <Ddorda> how do i discover what is my sound card?
[00:42] <xomp> Rovin, #ubuntu-forums
[00:42] <csilk> Doc8404, w/e anyway, remove the tuxfamily references
[00:42] <Rovin> sorry thanks
[00:42] <Vantrax> rovin: at the end of the post options
[00:43] <kmpressor> Hello all ubuntu users!
[00:43] <Doc8404> csilk thanks...
[00:43] <linuxlover69> Hello
[00:43] <rats> good morning :)
[00:43] <eddVRS> hi
[00:43] <Ddorda> how do i discover what is my sound card?
[00:43] <kmpressor> this is probably a dumb question
[00:43] <xomp> !repeat | Ddorda
[00:43] <sharki> Vantrax: that just sounds bizzare tho, how can a for-money-service-agreements-and-all OS be more aggressive with it's updates than it's opensource alternative???
[00:44] <sharki> Vantrax: lemme rtfm that article you pointed out...
[00:44] <Ddorda> you think nobody knows the answer?
[00:44] <Doc8404> to anyone who knows, whats the difference between inkjet and thermal inkjet
[00:44] <kmpressor> but why doesnt my wireless work any faster then 1mbs
[00:44] <legend2440> Ddorda: in terminal lspci | grep audio
[00:44] <Ddorda> i think it's a trivial thing
[00:44] <Ddorda> thanks!
[00:44] <csilk> Ddorda, be paitient
[00:44] <xomp> Ddorda, none the less it's no reason to spam the channel
[00:44] <Ddorda> yea, you're right.
[00:44] <Ddorda> sorry
[00:44] <Doc8404> kmpressor what type of wireless is it, and how far are you from the unit
[00:44] <sharki> Doc8404: the latter takes off while printing post script
[00:45] <csilk> Ddorda, paste the out og lspci somewhere for me
[00:45] <kmpressor> Doc: not far at all
[00:45] <csilk> **output of
[00:45] <kmpressor> 70% signal
[00:45] <Doc8404> sharki what lol
[00:45] <kmpressor> bm43XX driver
[00:45] <kmpressor> broadcom
[00:45] <woli> how can i get a fullscreen application to get on top of the panels?
[00:45] <xomp> kmpressor, Broadcom Wifi adapters are awful in ubuntu (concerning signal strength)
[00:45] <rats> I'm using a HP compaq 2510p with ubuntu 8.10. some of the function keys (battery status, sound volume, mute) aren't working propaly or at least doesnt work. On 8.04 they did. Any idea how to fix. If not, I'll create a bug report
[00:46] <Ddorda> what's the pastebin of this channel?
[00:46] <Ddorda> pastebin.ubuntu.co?
[00:46] <csilk> Ddorda, paste.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <legend2440> !paste
[00:46] <Ddorda> thanks
[00:46] <kmpressor> Is it being addressed at all
[00:46] <Doc8404> rats they havnt realeased a real version of 8.10 ur in a beta
[00:46] <rats> i know, i know
[00:46] <Ddorda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61760/
[00:46] <Ddorda> the giuy who wanted it..
[00:47] <Doc8404> xomp not true, im running at around 350 on n mimo
[00:47] <csilk> Ddorda,  Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[00:47] <Doc8404> sharki i didnt understand what you said?
[00:47] <Ddorda> thanks :)
[00:47] <xomp> Doc8404, my broadcom wifi in windows xp = blazing fast and good signal strength. Same card in ubuntu = epicfail and poor signal strength. I too run n mimo.
[00:47] <rats> Doc8404 the question was if it is known or not and if I should create a bug report or not
[00:47] <Doc8404> xomp i just checked the other laptop its running 54 on g. the same i got in windows
[00:48] <Doc8404> oh ok rats... well honostly create one. because well the more bugs that get reported the higher the ticket moves in the fix line
[00:48] <marki> how do i tell what packages are currently installed on my system
[00:48] <kmpressor> Are they going to fix the braodcom issue
[00:48] <Pav5088> Anybody here with some knowledge of openldap?  I'm wondering if anyone could give me some clues.  Error is here : http://pastebin.com/d1804644f
[00:48] <Doc8404> marki go the the synaptics package manager
[00:48] <sharki> Doc8404: it was a joke, sorry
[00:48] <bonhoffer> how do i run a .patch file
[00:48] <bonhoffer> ./mypatch.patch gives lots of errors
[00:48] <Doc8404> marki after that click status
[00:49] <xomp> kmpressor, not sure, I wouldn't even know who to bring the problems up too lol
[00:49] <kmpressor> Dam
[00:49] <csilk> Doc8404> because well the more bugs that get reported the higher the ticket moves in the fix line ||| haha thats simply not true
[00:49] <rats> Doc8404 thank you for this information, I will do so. meanwhile I can handle with this small disadvantages :)
[00:49] <marki> doc: good! :)
[00:49] <Doc8404> lol rats... i wait till the beta testing is done, and 1 week of reviews dont say "this sucks" or "to many issues this is horrible"
[00:49] <kmpressor> i can deal with it but when it comes to straming vids from my vid server its horrible
[00:50] <marki> is there a command line method? searched but could not find ti
[00:50] <xomp> kmpressor, but don't let me get you down :) I just despise wifi in linux because I've had inconceivable issues with dozens of wifi adapters in ubuntu :P
[00:50] <sharki> bonez45: still here?
[00:50]  * sharki about to bounce
[00:50] <PassionFRUI7E> Hello.  I need help installing Ubuntu.  I hit Enter while runnng the boot cd.  My HD spins, but nothing happens.  Then I gain control back and can click again.
[00:50] <Doc8404> xomp u got a ghost following ur systems:P
[00:50] <LightTitan> Ok, I know this is simple, but it's eluding me... how do I change my mouse pointers?
[00:50] <rats> DoC8404 sometimes you don't have a choise and sometimes you are the beta tester :)
[00:50] <LightTitan> oh and Icons too
[00:51] <Doc8404> rats i dont beta test no no no... to many horror stories of equipment going kaputs lol
[00:51] <RedEyess> please check out : Paste from redeyess at Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:50:47 +0100
[00:51] <amason_> hey guys, i have an x200 stinkpad, with intrepid almost everything works out of the box, however i was curious if anyone had the same model and knew how to stop the fans from spinning up 100%
[00:51] <xomp> Doc8404, lol, nah, I had some atheros based wifi and prism2 based cards that are literally not supported in linux period lol. Atleast that's been my experience :(
[00:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone have any ideas?  I burned the 64bit iso.
[00:51] <kmpressor> Anyone know what changes are made in 8.10
[00:51] <RedEyess> i am having problems with updating ubuntu
[00:51] <Doc8404> xomp lol... ghosts!!! :P
[00:51] <LightTitan> oh wait, found it
[00:51] <legend2440> marki: in terminal type    dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages  will create a file called my-packages with list of installed packages
[00:51] <rats> Doc8404: hmm, bad stories, ur right
[00:51] <Doc8404> kmpressor you can kill noobs in chat :D
[00:51] <Doc8404> jk
[00:51] <csilk> kmpressor,  that question has to big of an answer for IRC
[00:52] <kmpressor> lol
[00:52] <xomp> Doc8404, prism2 based cards in linux is like 2 boys dancin', it just ain't right :(
[00:52] <kmpressor> i can imagin
[00:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone want to help me?..I got most everything working it just does nothing when I click install.
[00:52] <kmpressor> forgive me this is the first linus os that i have decided to go full force on
[00:52] <kmpressor> i no longer use windows
[00:52] <Doc8404> yeah rats, like my ps3... ive got a 2gig ram, self modded lol, 320 gig 7200.3rpm hd running linux water cooled. well a buddy of mine with the same setup ran some betas. and his ps3 went kaputs because the software was way over bugged. it locked up his system, and his HD was crashed
[00:52] <xomp> kmpressor, great to hear! :) I'm still stuck with XP for a while (until Team Fortress 2 and Silent Hill 3 can be playable) heh
[00:52] <sharki> bbl
[00:52] <Doc8404> kmpressor!!! good job killing that M$Evil
[00:53] <kmpressor> Considering the IT industry is pushing Linux really hard now i figured id force myself to learn it
[00:53] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone...sgh.
[00:53] <kmpressor> O
[00:53] <kmpressor>  yea
[00:53] <xomp> !anyone | PassionFRUI7E
[00:53] <kmpressor> someone tell me how to get BF2142 working
[00:53] <csilk> kmpressor,  google
[00:53] <kmpressor> i have
[00:54] <Doc8404> kmpressor 427 of the 500 super computers in the world run linux now, and 40 are dual boot. only 5 are windows based. the fastest of them all runs at 6XXX number of dual core processors on 35.7 TB of ram and can processes 1000 trillion bits of info a second
[00:54] <xomp> kmpressor, do you have an ATI video card?
[00:54] <kmpressor> couldnt find crap
[00:54] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm ubottu?
[00:54] <kmpressor> naw nvidia
[00:54] <marki> legend: Thanks! that worked :)
[00:54] <PassionFRUI7E> Want me to type a book?
[00:55] <kmpressor> Well even now i can show people how much faster it runs compaierd to XP
[00:55] <xomp> sheesh, what's with peoples attitude here? Asking for help nicely has been replaced by pompus jerks whinning about having to explain their problems fully..
[00:55] <rats> Doc8404 okay, that's hard; however, I've to go to work now, it's almost 10 min to eight! I wish U all a pleasant evening / night ... and for the few asiens/Pacifics a good start in the day :P
[00:55] <kmpressor> dont even mention the new age Milleniom os MS came out with
[00:55] <Doc8404> rats good luck at work
[00:55] <mercutio22> trying to log into gnome I get the error message "Users $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. ... File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by othe users.
[00:55] <DEVELOPER> hi alll
[00:55] <Doc8404> kmpressor ME? thats old and horrible lol
[00:55] <rats> as always :) bye Doc8404
[00:55] <gm04030276> I'm actually starting a business hoping to push linux into SMB's in NI :)
[00:55] <PassionFRUI7E> 1) I burned the ubuntu 8.04 64-bit amd/intel iso  2) I booted the cd  3) I get the main dialog  4)  I click the top install option  5) HDD spins, 4 seconds later I gain control.
[00:55] <kmpressor> Vista isa the new ME
[00:55] <kmpressor> lol
[00:56] <mercutio22> can someone help me fix this?
[00:56] <DEVELOPER> who can halp me with ati driver problemmmmmmmmm
[00:56] <Doc8404> passion can your comp handle 64 bit? not trying to be mean but some like my toshiba dont
[00:56] <Jordan_U> kmpressor: According to wine's appdb it has a gold rating, have you tried just running it in wine?
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> I bought my laptop 20 days ago.
[00:56] <kmpressor> it keeps asking for the cd
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> Hp DV7-1130US.  4gigs expandable to 8, 2x2.0ghz
[00:56] <kmpressor> in my case a dvd
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> 5400 hd, 200gb
[00:56] <xomp> PassionFRUI7E, buying a laptop 20 days ago != 64-bit system OOB
[00:56] <LightTitan> Woot, I love it when I get almost everything like I want it in Linux... that's usually when I mess something up really bad though and have to start all over >.<
[00:56] <kmpressor> Nice lap Passion
[00:56] <PassionFRUI7E> It runs everything completely fine
[00:56] <writing> how do I install everything that doxygen depends on?
[00:57] <csilk> kmpressor, bf does not work on uubntu, not in a playable manner anyway
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> It is a 64-bit Vista home premium
[00:57] <kmpressor> DAM
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> It was only 650 lol.
[00:57] <Delicates> How do you unset _res.options (RES_USE_INET6 in particular)?
[00:57] <DEVELOPER> who have ATI DRIVER  catalist 8.10
[00:57] <kmpressor> i cant even get steam on it so i can play Counter Strike
[00:57] <eddVRS> 650 what?
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> Just a summer work treat since I never bought a latop.
[00:57] <LightTitan> So who here is running Ubuntu Intrepid 64bit?
[00:57] <PassionFRUI7E> 650 USD.
[00:57] <Jordan_U> writing: install doxygen via synaptic / apt
[00:57] <gm04030276> mercutio22:is that the complete message it shows you?
[00:58] <csilk> kmpressor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm a college student majoring in computer science(programming).  Getting a masters after I get a job.
[00:58] <mercutio22> gm04030276, no, there is more. Do you need the whole thing?
[00:58] <kmpressor> Good luck Kid
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyway...
[00:58] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: using hardy or intrepid?
[00:58] <kmpressor> i wish the best for ya
[00:58] <gm04030276> mercutio22: no, thats ok. right, give me a wee second here
[00:58] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyone know any problems that would cause the installer to do nothing then return control after 4 seconds?
[00:59] <mercutio22> gm04030276, ok, thnks
[00:59] <gm04030276> PassionFRUI7E: running of cd?!
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> This is the third iso i've burned, the first didnt work and the second did the same thing.
[00:59] <danbh_intrepid> PassionFRUI7E: are you using the alternate cd?  or live cd?
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Running off the 64bit burnt iso from the nfrontpage
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Live
[00:59] <kmpressor> What kind of lap do you have
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> HP DV7-1130us
[00:59] <writing> how do I install dot
[00:59] <danbh_intrepid> PassionFRUI7E: maybe try the 32bit alternate cd
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Model released VERY recently
[00:59] <DEVELOPER> i wont to install ati catalist 8.10 driver and i install but when i login in the os  ther are splashh white  screen ???  now i enter wiht safe mod
[00:59] <kmpressor> i had a problem like that before
[00:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Roger.  Downloading
[01:00] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid | DEVELOPER
[01:00] <kmpressor> it was something in the bios that didnt allow booting from disk
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm kmpressor?
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> whot can i fix in xorg !@@
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> hardy
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> I am inside of the disk installer.
[01:00] <Jordan_U> writing: Do you know what the synaptic package manager is?
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> Only option that does anything is to boot from vista.
[01:00] <kmpressor> something HP does so that you cant load another OS
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> In which I select ubuntu or vista.
[01:00] <LightTitan> Ok, so every time I open up firefox it loads kinda like it's fullscreen... I then have to hit F11 twice to get a top bar... first time puts me into fullscreen completely, and second takes it out. Anyone know why it does this?
[01:00] <DEVELOPER> i use hady 8.4.1 !!!
[01:00] <PassionFRUI7E> I bypassed that after like 20 minutes.  Now I can actually access the menu.
[01:00] <tc111> i need to copy files from host(a) port 123 at site(a) to host(b) port 456 at site(b) from my machine at site(c) without copying them local first and without copying directly from hosta to hostb... any suggestions?
[01:00] <kmpressor> O ok
[01:01] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: did you enable ati driver in   system>admin>hardware drivers?
[01:01] <LightTitan> I am using Intrepid and loving it
[01:01] <gm04030276> mercutio22: i've went to a single chat with you, it'll be easier
[01:01] <kmpressor> So when you go to the ubuntu screen you can select install ubuntu right\?
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> But I click any of the options except the bottom (boot from disk) and HDD makes noise for 4 seconds then I get control back.
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> Basically.
[01:01] <csilk> kmpressor,  americans army works on ubuntu :D
[01:01] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll troubleshoot for another hour then I got to work on homework.  Any ideas?
[01:01] <csilk> *americas
[01:01] <kmpressor> SWEET ASS
[01:01] <eddVRS> PassionFRUI7E: have you tried checking disc for errors?
[01:02] <kmpressor> im there
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> AA is a hacker heaven =/
[01:02] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: What he needs to do is get EnvyNG and use that to install and configure his ATI drivers
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Third ISO
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll RE-DL again I guess
[01:02] <kmpressor> anyway back to PAssion
[01:02] <DEVELOPER> i enable its works but i vont install ati catalist driver 8.10.or 8.6 but its do seym error :(
[01:02] <csilk> kmpressor, I'm downloading it now, we should play some online together
[01:02] <kmpressor> no no no
[01:02] <kmpressor> i dout its your iso
[01:02] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E, try the 32 bit version.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:02] <DEVELOPER> i install envy with 8.6 but its do seym errorrrr
[01:02] <Doc8404> advice which prints higher quality. thermal inkjet, or laser?
[01:02] <kmpressor> where are you getting it from
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Are you sure mouseboyx?
[01:02] <kmpressor> Ubuntu.com
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Official site.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> OSU Open Source Lab.
[01:02] <mouseboyx> Yes, 64 is backwards compatible with 32.
[01:02] <PassionFRUI7E> But...will I lose any power?
[01:02] <kmpressor> yea it is
[01:03] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: Oh well, past that I have no advice... I'm still a novice myself
[01:03] <jdrane> again a NOOB ?,  with LDAP loaded on my server.... if i set groups/users up on the server.....how do i configure the desktop environ. login to user the LDAP credentials?
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> I have no reason for linux, just curious.
[01:03] <kmpressor> so im not sure why your having such a problem
[01:03] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: in terminal type   fglrxinfo   does it say  ATI or Mesa?
[01:03] <usser_> DEVELOPER, as far as i know ati driver still doesnt support 8.10
[01:03] <usser_> DEVELOPER, you'll have to stick with open source driver until ati pulls their act together andd finally fix their crappy software
[01:03] <kmpressor> Once you go ubuntu you never go back
[01:03] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E,  you might gain power, nothing is optimized for 64bit anyway.
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> I use Visual Studio Professional 2008 for schoolwork, just wanted to see speed.
[01:03] <thiebaude> yup, kmpressor
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> Code::Blocks, ect.
[01:03] <eddVRS> true enough kmpressor
[01:03] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone travelling/ working in Vietnam around Nov 15? We're organizing our first Barcamp on that day :-)
[01:03] <legend2440> usser_: he said hes using hardy
[01:03] <kmpressor> u can always install vmware and put xp on it for VS
[01:03] <PassionFRUI7E> And I love control.  If I had a stick shift I'd be in heaven =P
[01:04] <kitche> usser_: well amd is working on the hd driver but it still is a bad driver overall really
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I won't emulate, I'll just DualBoot.
[01:04] <LightTitan> DEVELOPER: I agree with him... ATI sucks. Switch to NVidia imo =P
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm not a HDD space whore, my 200ish HDD is fine.
[01:04] <DEVELOPER> :(((((((  but whot abaut 8.6
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> Code doesn't take much space =P
[01:04] <usser_> legend2440, DEVELOPER nvm then i thought u meant 8.10
[01:04] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: in terminal type   fglrxinfo   does it say  ATI or Mesa?
[01:04] <kmpressor> a 25 gig XP should do you fine
[01:04] <DEVELOPER> i hawe a laptop dell with socksssss ati x1400
[01:04] <Doc8404> anyone here know which one prints a better quality. laser or inkjet
[01:04] <PassionFRUI7E> I don't want XP.
[01:04] <Optimus55> hey i'm looking at this page on launchpad about the high load/unload cycle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[01:04] <kmpressor> in vmware i ment
[01:04] <bonhoffer> i am having mlocate problems, i type: pacman -S mlocate (per http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6902) and i get a pacman game -- what shoud i do?
[01:04] <kmpressor> for Visual Studio
[01:05] <Optimus55> it says a fix has been released for ubuntu, will this be incorporated in the new release?
[01:05] <DEVELOPER> its sey mesa becos i login in safe mod
[01:05] <kmpressor> i dont think that will run in wine
[01:05] <darren> ok i have a question out of all the people in here who are used to windows and tryed ubuntu, do you still duel boot with windows or just ubuntu
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> Well I'll just go back to Vista64 if nobody has any ideas.
[01:05] <usser_> kitche, i know i know, i just wish they'd spared more ppl to work on linux driver or opensourced it
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> Again lol, I won't tough linux when it comes to school.  I love MS.
[01:05] <jdrane> im using ubunut studio i killed windoze
[01:05] <kmpressor> I switched all pcs to ubuntu
[01:05] <PassionFRUI7E> *tough->touch
[01:05] <thiebaude> darren:i dont have windows on my computer
[01:05] <kmpressor> Passion
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm here.
[01:06] <darren> thiebaude, ok thanks its was just curiosity
[01:06] <kitche> usser_: well considering that the hd drivers are the ati drivers at least for the newer cards but to me doesn't matter if they open source their drivers anyways they would probably still be bad
[01:06] <Doc8404> openoffice.org was rated higher than M$Evil Office
[01:06] <kmpressor> dont give up im sure there is something really stupid simple thats causeing you issue
[01:06] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E, it is the exact opposite for me, it pains me to boot into windows to have to do something.
[01:06] <DEVELOPER> i install drivers whell but when i restart ther are splash screen :( i think i mast chanje sameting in xorg.conf
[01:06] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: oh ok  can you pastebin your   /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> Generally, I have terrible luck.
[01:06] <thiebaude> i got windows 2000 and xp cd's in the drawer
[01:06] <kmpressor> lol
[01:06] <legend2440> !paste | DEVELOPER
[01:06] <thiebaude> lol
[01:06] <PassionFRUI7E> MS Office 2008 is amazing.  Sorry I don't understand MS haters.
[01:06] <kmpressor> i get a new PC with Vista i wipe it out and put XP on it
[01:06] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:06] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:07] <kmpressor> It is good
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> VistA 32-BIT?
[01:07] <kmpressor> but have you noticed the resources it takes up
[01:07] <LjL> ^^^
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> Vista 32 is ME.  Vista 64 is Windows 6.5.
[01:07] <kmpressor> AERO alone is like half a gig
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> k.
[01:07] <PassionFRUI7E> I got 8 gigs of ram.  I use them.
[01:07] <Doc8404> ive only seen office 2007.. im just saying
[01:07] <thiebaude> i think windows 2000 pro was the best ms OS
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm not a docx fan either, but it converts back VERY well.
[01:08] <kmpressor> mee to but for stuff i need not for flashy crap thats not even that flashy
[01:08] <LjL> !offtopic | Doc8404, PassionFRUI7E, thiebaude, kmpressor
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Just large file types.
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Sorry.
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Anyway, suggestions kmpressor?  32bit version?
[01:08] <Rovin> hello,if I am on Wubi - when I upgrade to 8.10...will it upgrade ok?
[01:08] <DEVELOPER> i haw 2 questions :)  naw i login in safe mod and i wont say may xorg.conf chenjing when i in safe mod or its seym
[01:08] <DEVELOPER> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61766/
[01:08] <darren> kmpressor, its all curiosity for me today but if i have aero clone set up on ubuntu does it use the same or less
[01:08] <bonhoffer> i know i can set a value with export FOO = 'hello'
[01:08] <kmpressor> Go 32 just for S&giggles
[01:08] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:08] <bonhoffer> how do i see the value of FOO
[01:09] <nkei0> heya everyone, anyone want to help me with a little java problem with 8.10 beta?
[01:09] <kmpressor> to be honest with you you wont see a performance boost in 64 cause nothing much is designed to use 64bit processing yet
[01:09] <LjL> bonhoffer: echo $FOO
[01:09] <LjL> !beta > nkei0    (nkei0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:09] <PassionFRUI7E> Should I try non-Ubuntu8.04LTS?
[01:09] <bonhoffer> LjlL, thanks!
[01:09] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:10] <kmpressor> Just try regular 8.04lts and see what happens
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:10] <darren> nkei0, try ubuntu+1
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[01:10] <kmpressor> passion kmpressorx is my aim name if you have any Q's give me a shout
[01:10] <nkei0> LjL so should I just do one or the other or both?
[01:10] <Bling> hi
[01:10] <LjL> nkei0: you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:10] <PassionFRUI7E> 18 Minutes kmpressor.  So is there good c++ support or should I learn ansic?
[01:11] <kmpressor> O hell yea
[01:11] <kmpressor> you should be able to find c compilers everywhere
[01:11] <PassionFRUI7E> Well I know plenty of shit languages.  And I just started C# and love it.  But of course who doesn't love C++.
[01:11] <kmpressor> forgive, i havent coded crap since college
[01:11] <PassionFRUI7E> No problem.
[01:12] <csilk> C# eww
[01:12] <kmpressor> thats what people said abouot kobol once
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> Don't eww C#.
[01:12] <kmpressor> and they still use it
[01:12] <darren> ok a question for all every one says ubuntu uses less memory and resourses than vista but if i want all the fancy things in ubuntu like vista clone and transparent windows and compiz activated with effects does ubuntu use less or just the same
[01:12] <Bling> i have ubuntu 8.4 and win xp
[01:12] <csilk> kmpressor, yeah but cobol was good
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> Do you even know how great C# is?
[01:12] <kmpressor> tru tru
[01:12] <kmpressor> the man has a point
[01:12] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E,  I know C# very well
[01:12] <LjL> offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic PLEASE
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> What is DLLIMPORT nested in?
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> K...
[01:12] <PassionFRUI7E> People love to pick fights in here...
[01:12] <kmpressor> lol
[01:13] <kmpressor> i love irc
[01:13] <PassionFRUI7E> Yep.
[01:13] <kmpressor> ima go offtopic
[01:13] <mneptok> PassionFRUI7E: welcome to IRC
[01:13] <PassionFRUI7E> XD
[01:13] <Doc8404> lol
[01:13] <LjL> enough, there are people who have support questions if you haven't noticed
[01:13] <kmpressor> kkk
[01:13] <gaten> my flashplayer in firefox 3.0.3 suddenly stopped working. i goto youtube.com and it tells me to get the lastest flash player. but the about:plugins shows I have shockwave 10 already installed. any suggestions?
[01:13] <Doc8404> if someone has a question they should ask it... thats my theory... why run someone off. but im just a doctor im usually happy to help others lol
[01:13] <LjL> darren, it's hard to say how much "resources" something takes
[01:13] <mouseboyx> gaten, possibly reinstall them or remove then install ?
[01:13] <Doc8404> darren just go into your system it tells you what each process runs at
[01:13] <Bling> i love linux
[01:14] <darren> ok thanks to all
[01:14] <PassionFRUI7E> How you whisper in IRC?
[01:14] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: did you have compiz enabled when the white screen problem started?
[01:14] <Vantrax> darren comparatively linux will use less
[01:14] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, /notice csilk message
[01:14] <gaten> mouseboyx:  tried that. reinstalled everything but firefox at this point. right now im trying to use abode's player installed right from their .deb
[01:15] <mouseboyx> gaten, I tried that today also, their deb does not work, use their tar.gz archive instead.
[01:15] <darren> Vantrax, ok thanks
[01:15] <kmpressor> shit if i know
[01:15] <Vantrax> darren: i can run linux + compiz + emerald +awn on a machine that cant run vista areo crap
[01:15] <LjL> !language
[01:15] <gaten> mouseboyx:  ahh ok, let me give that a shot. i think the update today broke it
[01:15] <kmpressor> soory
[01:15] <writing> I built the doxygen files, which file is the main one IE the one with the frames?\
[01:15] <DEVELOPER> i haw compiz but i dont now its startup with os or now
[01:15] <mouseboyx> Yeah, maybe gaten, if not try to reinstall it in the synaptic flash-nonfree.
[01:16] <darren> Vantrax, ok thanks im going to go look up +awn i have not tryed that yes
[01:16] <darren> yet
[01:16] <Doc8404> so out of curiosity, brother and cannon dont support opensource?
[01:16] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?
[01:16] <LjL> Doc8404: that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <Doc8404> LjL its a question pertaining to ubuntu... im wondering if i get a printer from one of those companies is it going to function in my ubuntu 8.04
[01:17] <Vantrax> doc8404 not really no
[01:17] <LjL> !hardware | Doc8404
[01:17] <dmhardison> Is there a way I can specify as root to open a program on another user's display?
[01:17] <LjL> !printers > Doc8404    (Doc8404, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> i think i must do samthing in may xorg.conf becous in tehere not full of info
[01:18] <LjL> dmhardison: unless that user has allowed external access to the X server, i don't think so - not easily at least, of course you "can" do anything as root. i'm not sure anyway.
[01:18] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?
[01:18] <gaten> mouseboyx:  what did you use for the installation path? /usr/lib/mozilla doesn't work
[01:18] <mouseboyx> hmmm, don't know...
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> what the pm :) i dont now :)
[01:18] <DEVELOPER> i am from ARMENIA
[01:18] <legend2440> DEVELOPER: ok to PM?  private message?
[01:19] <dmhardison> Can I amke a notification box on a gnome user's desktop easily?
[01:20] <mouseboyx> Tell you wate gaten, just use the synaptic to remove the flash plugin then install flash nonfree
[01:20] <LjL> dmhardison: you can use Zenity to make dialog boxes very easily, but as for actually showing it on the user's desktop, uhm
[01:20] <mouseboyx> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:21] <writing> how do I search for in the contents of files in a directory?
[01:21] <jeeves_Moss> how do I search for a specific file in shell?
[01:21] <LjL> writing: grep "keyword" directoryname/*
[01:21] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: locate filename
[01:21] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, does that work for the fill file system?
[01:21] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: (although that won't work if the file was created recently - in that case, use "find")
[01:22] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: yes
[01:24] <gaten> mouseboyx:  trying that
[01:24] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, ok, it's not working.  what would the syntax be to search the whole drive for "awstats_updateall.pl"
[01:25] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: just "locate filename". but if it's not working then use find, "sudo find / | grep awstats_updateall.pl"
[01:26] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, thanks.  it's searching
[01:26] <Reaverbot> How could I terminate a program from Konsole or Terminal?
[01:26] <LjL> Reaverbot: man kill
[01:26] <Ridd1er> hey all
[01:26] <danbh_intrepid> Reaverbot: pkill
[01:26] <semanticpc> is it possible to generate trees using LaTex ?
[01:26] <mouseboyx> Reaverbot, killall name
[01:26] <gaten> mouseboyx:  no luck. i deleted every linflashbplayer.so in the system, uninstalled them all and just installed flashplayer-nonfree. it sees that ti is installed, but wont play youtube
[01:26] <mouseboyx> did you restart firefox?
[01:27] <Ridd1er> anyone here familiar with running LIRC on gutsy?  I am having a lot of issues and it was working fine on feisty
[01:27] <cicero> my ubuntu (eee-pc 8.04 ubuntu eee) was working great with wireless until tonight -- now it can't seem to get an ip -- wired works fine and all other computers work fine . . .
[01:27] <josh||> semanticpc, what kind of trees? there are a few good linguistics classes available in apt
[01:27] <Reaverbot> killall worked, thanks to everyone!
[01:27] <cicero> what troubleshooting options do i have?
[01:27] <semanticpc> simple binary trees
[01:27] <Woody86> is there an open source option to using Microsoft Visio?
[01:27] <gm04030276> Dia is good
[01:27] <gm04030276> its similar to visio
[01:28] <cicero> sorry, i am a windows user -- new to linux -- in windows i get a list of networks and i just pick which one to connect to -- ubuntu was working, but now it seems like there is very little troubleshooting i can do
[01:28] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  Is it completely compatible?
[01:28] <josh||> aha not sure about that.. check out ctan though: http://www.ctan.org
[01:28] <semanticpc> josh__, how do i add packages to texlive ?
[01:28] <jeeves_Moss> LjL, thanks, I found what I needed
[01:28] <cicero> the only error i get is 'no network connection'
[01:28] <gaten> mouseboyx:  yes
[01:28] <josh||> well  if you install via apt, they'll get used automatically
[01:28] <gm04030276> Woody86: no idea! hold on ill see if i can find what files is supports, what file ext does visio save in?
[01:29] <Rovin> If I request a install CD for Ubuntu, do they phone you when it has been shipped?
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin,no
[01:29] <htmljunkie> Mac you in here?
[01:29] <josh||> but you can configure a directory under your home dir that tex will search for classes
[01:29] <Rovin> ok
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin, i got my 8.10 cd on order
[01:29] <cicero> so i would say my wireless card works, but i can't get my network to connect
[01:29] <Rovin> why do they need Phone?
[01:29] <mouseboyx> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ should be correct directory gaten
[01:29] <thiebaude> rovin, i dont know
[01:29] <josh||> i keep mine under ~/texmf
[01:30] <Rovin> oh well,I will order
[01:30] <Rovin> :)
[01:30] <cicero> i am sure there is a tool that scans for available networks and lets me connect, if i can't it gives me some error i can work with
[01:30] <Ridd1er> alright is anyone familiar with LIRC at all?
[01:30] <gm04030276> Woody86: it does say visio .vdx in the open dialog
[01:30] <thiebaude> !lirc
[01:30] <Aeonis_> Hey everyone.  I'm trying to figure out how to isntall VMServer 2.0 on 8.04.  How do I do that?
[01:31] <cicero> it looks like i am using nm-applet 0.6.6 -- this was installed by default
[01:31] <Exaltia> !NetworkManager
[01:31] <SpinachHead> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:31] <Exaltia> !wicd
[01:31] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, cause I have an online class that says I need to download Visio, but I have no idea any other kind of requirements
[01:31] <Aeonis_> !dudes
[01:31] <LjL> !botabuse
[01:31] <Aeonis_> LOL...sorry.
[01:31] <Ridd1er> ROFl
[01:31] <thiebaude> haha
[01:32] <Jordan_U> cicero: What problem are you having with network-manager?
[01:32] <Aeonis_> Okay...serious face now.  I'm having problems installing VMWare Server 2.0.
[01:32] <cicero> Jordan - it looks like i am using nm-applet -- is that the same as network manager?
[01:32] <Aeonis_> I don't know how to do it.  I figured it'd be something like sudo apt-get vmware server 2.0 or something like that, but I don't even know where this pulls from so I can find it.
[01:32] <gm04030276> Woody86: well it seems to support visio files but I haven't had any experience opening visio files with it.
[01:33] <vote_4_Obama> hey guys, anyone here good with wifi card issues?
[01:33] <SpinachHead> sort of...
[01:33] <vote_4_Obama> atheros cards?
[01:33] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, is there anything in OpenOffice.org that would be compatible?
[01:33] <cicero> vote_4_Obama, yes I do have that card
[01:33] <danbh_intrepid> vote_4_Obama: try intrepid
[01:34] <Aeonis_> When you use "sudo apt-get", where does that pull from?
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> intrepid?
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> oh boy
[01:34] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid | vote_4_Obama
[01:34] <GuZ> ello there open sourcers!
[01:34] <mouseboyx> Aeonis_, configured repositories in sources.list
[01:34] <cicero> Jordan_U, i don't know how to use/find network-manager . . .
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> yeah....i'l wait till the bugs are sorted
[01:34] <cicero> I'm trying to install it now
[01:34] <Jordan_U> cicero: It should be in the top right of your screen
[01:35] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: Where do I find that?
[01:35] <thiebaude> i didn't notice any bugs in 8.10
[01:35] <mouseboyx> /etc/apt/sources.list i believe.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cicero: It's a pannel applet that looks like two computers
[01:35] <SpinachHead> obama are you using ndiswrapper?
[01:35] <GuZ> If I wanted to ask a question on the stable versino thats bee around for a while, am I in the right channel?
[01:35] <thiebaude> guz:the ubuntu 8.04 channel
[01:35] <cicero> Jordan_U, all I get is the applet --  and that is not helping me.  It connects to the wired connection just fine but it's not scanning or finding my local network at all
[01:35] <Jordan_U> GuZ: Yes
[01:36] <cicero> all disconnect the wired network right now
[01:36] <SpinachHead> http://www.linuxfornewbies.org/forum/index.php/topic,3.0.html this tutorial fixed my wifi problems
[01:36] <cicero> I'll  disconnect
[01:36] <GuZ> Okay, cool, I was wondering if there was a way to use Windows XP simple network bridging via WINE
[01:36] <gm04030276> Woody86: there is OO drawing but I don't know if its visio compatable. Try googleing for visio openoffice or searching the OOo website
[01:37] <Woody86> gm04030276 -  ok, thanks for the help :)
[01:37] <cicero> so I disconnect and I get an !  Under the box in the top
[01:37] <cicero> decides that I absolutely get no error at all.  If I place the mouse over that box the only error I get is "no network connection"
[01:38] <cicero> if a single click on that box I get to three options: 1 | connect to other wireless networks, (2) create new wireless network or (3) manual configuration
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cicero: What wireless card do you have ( the exact chipset if you know it ) ?
[01:38] <cicero> I have tried around six or seven times to create a new wireless network I've chosen my security settings and entered my security key.  However this has had no effect
[01:38] <cicero> Jordan_U, give me just a second a look that up
[01:38] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: How do I find what server/site it's connecting to?
[01:39] <Jordan_U> cicero: It should list available networks, you don't want to create a new wireless network
[01:39] <mouseboyx> you can see some stuff in system > admin > software sourcers
[01:39] <cicero> interesting, when I type ifconfig I don't see the interface which used to be there which was something like ra0
[01:39] <Jordan_U> cicero: Ugh, you have a ralink card then
[01:39] <cicero> what is the other command that I can type to find out my exact hardware details something like lspci
[01:39] <Aeonis> mouseboyx: I see some for "Third-Party" software, but they're not checked in.  I'm looking to see what the name of VMWare Server 2.0 is so I can sudo apt-get install it.
[01:39] <cicero> that is correct
[01:39] <cicero> ralink on the eeepc 1000h
[01:40] <craigthegreat> can someone help me boot from cd w/ no live disc?
[01:40] <Vantrax> Aeonis VMWare server is a costed item
[01:40] <cicero> the problem is that this has been working very well and is just now that I can't get a connection
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cicero: Oh, are you using eeeubuntu?
[01:40] <cicero> yes I am
[01:40] <Aeonis> There is a free version Vantrax.
[01:40] <Aeonis> And I have a Key I can use for the free version.
[01:40] <cicero> it seems to be working pretty well, except for this wireless problem
[01:40] <mouseboyx> Aeonis, may i suggest virtual box over vmware, it is much more stable and in the default repositories.
[01:40] <Vantrax> Aeonis i didnt think it was in the repos
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cicero: Surprising that it isn't working then
[01:41] <Vantrax> Aeonis:  Just pull it down from www.vmware.com
[01:41] <cicero> I have found some places online that recommend downloading the driver but according to the folks in the eeepc room the driver should be working inside the specific distro that I am using
[01:41] <Aeonis> I would agree, but the guy I'm getting training with uses VMServer 2.0 and said it's very stable and I want to learn it as much as possible before I start learning crap on my own.
[01:41] <xomp> mouseboyx, is it logical to install windows xp on virtual box to play games? :)
[01:41] <cicero> and since it was working I would hate to install a driver that could cause potential problems
[01:41] <cicero> what I wish I could do is actually troubleshoot this problem but it doesn't seem like the network manager is giving me any options like that
[01:41] <mouseboyx> xomp, no
[01:41] <usser> Aeonis, i'd vote for vmware, server 2.0 is awesome
[01:41] <Aeonis> I tried Vantrax, but the RPM file wouldn't install and the tar.gx??? wouldn't install either.  I figure I'm doing it wrong.
[01:41] <Vantrax> use the .bundle
[01:42] <Aeonis> do you have a link on how you installed it usser?
[01:42] <usser> Aeonis, are u using hardy?
[01:42] <xomp> mouseboyx, oh :( ok, was hoping to get rid of this dual boot but wine no worky with Team Fortress 2 and Silent Hill 3 on my nice ATI card :(
[01:42] <Vantrax> Aeonis use the .bunble file
[01:42] <Jordan_U> cicero: Have you changed anything since it was working?
[01:42] <Vantrax> .bundle
[01:42] <mouseboyx> yeah, i just recently got a free 8800 GTX from my friend ! xomp
[01:42] <cicero> I've been installing software but I haven't changed anything in the wireless settings
[01:42] <Aeonis> Yes usser.  8.04 :D
[01:43] <cicero> I've installed several updates, etc.
[01:43] <cicero>  also have installed Matlab and the Java runtime engine
[01:43] <Jordan_U> cicero: Any kernel updates?
[01:43] <usser> Aeonis, oh so head to vmware.com create your free account download vmware 2.0 server for linux tar.gz file
[01:43] <xomp> mouseboyx, cool, word on the street is in 5-10 years time ATI will be well supported in linux :) But damn, that's a long time to keep windows on yah drive for gaming purposes :P
[01:43] <cicero> no, not that I know of
[01:44] <Aeonis> Wait...usser, I have done that...would it still be stored on my pc after a reboot in the temp file?
[01:44] <GuZ> I'm having serious trouble making a network bridge to use my laptops wifi access with my 360s, I've googled the problem and no fix has worked
[01:44] <usser> Aeonis, where did u save it?
[01:44] <saxonjf> I am using an Nvidia card, what's the likelihood of losing all video if I upgrade to the RC?
[01:44] <cabrioleur> xomp, Linux is not the best gaming platform.
[01:44] <Aeonis> I can't remember, I just click  the thing in FF and let it go to default.
[01:44] <mouseboyx> xomp, i also got an ati card that worked fairly well from him, it was 2600XT
[01:44] <danbh_intrepid> saxonjf: is it a newish card? or oldish?
[01:44] <usser> Aeonis, take a look on your desktop, firefox usually saves there
[01:45] <ben> need help with a wireless connect
[01:45] <xomp> cabrioleur, I know, but I've seen numerous videos of Team Fortress 2 on ubuntu but they fail to mention that if you have an ATI card your SOL big time :(
[01:45] <saxonjf> Kind of oldish
[01:45] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, square root of i.
[01:45] <craigthegreat> can someone help on a boot issue
[01:45] <cabrioleur> craigthegreat, I'm sure somebody can.
[01:45] <Aeonis> It's not there usser.  I'll re-download it.  What usually is in the /tmp folder?
[01:45] <cicero> Jordan_U, one thing that definitely might affect this is I loaded an application that is supposed to take inputs from the eee hotkeys, perhaps that is disabling my wireless
[01:46] <saxonjf> cab, that's no answer.
[01:46] <GuZ> ohshit, another eee ubuntu user
[01:46] <nihi> GuZ, have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=895310 ?
[01:46] <tritium> language, please, GuZ
[01:46] <craigthegreat> i need to boot off cd but i cant get the bios to come up
[01:46] <craigthegreat> using grub
[01:46] <usser> Aeonis, temp files, it might be there as well
[01:46] <writing> How do you set an environment variable
[01:46] <GuZ> sorry, tritium
[01:46] <writing> with export?
[01:46] <xomp> what is "eee"?
[01:46] <xomp> other than 3 e's?
[01:46] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, nobody can tell until you try. It's up to the model, ram, connection, motherboard and number of bugs implemented in current code :-)
[01:47] <GuZ> the EEE laptop by asus
[01:47] <Aeonis> What is "seahorse-B9DPBr"
[01:47] <cabrioleur> eee is awesome for servers. It's quiet, set and forget.
[01:47] <saxonjf> I've read that there's no driver for Nvidia drivers in the beta for 8.10, and that concerns me.
[01:48] <cicero> GuZ, does this distribution cause a lot of problems?
[01:48] <Jordan_U> writing: You export the variable with export, you set it with variable_name="whatever" ( exporting it makes it available to child processes, i.e. any program you run from that shell )
[01:48] <cabrioleur> saxonjf, nvidia website always has the drivers.
[01:48] <GuZ> i'm running xubuntu on my eee 900 and its been fine, im just having trouble with an ubuntu problem in general
[01:48] <ben> can some one help m I have a pci wireless card and it's slow 70kb/s or less
[01:48] <animefanfive> How can I get the extra buttons (email, home, search) to work?
[01:49] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I have enabled wireless within the eee eee-control-tray. It might have been disabled. It currently tried to find an IP after I put in the wpa key, but now it looks like that has failed and I'm getting the same error which is "no network connection"
[01:49] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:49] <GuZ> cicero, my eee worked out of the box with xubuntu/ubuntu
[01:49] <Vantrax> ben you have windoes installed too?
[01:49] <ben>  no
[01:50] <animefanfive> I tried that and when it goes to the "New accelerator" phase it will pick up any key except those three.
[01:50] <Vantrax> does it run as slow off the CD?
[01:50] <cicero> so currently I've enabled wireless and the network manager applet is disappeared when I type ifconfig I still do not see the ra0 interface
[01:50] <Vantrax> livecd
[01:50] <dac_> what is Ubuntu desk edition?
[01:50] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, your keyboard is misconfigured.
[01:50] <dac_> 8.04
[01:50] <cicero> it's like network manager has crashed and I can't find the binary to started up again
[01:50] <cabrioleur> animefanfive, go to keyboard setup and pick different model.
[01:50] <ben> but I have hade it in a old windows 2000
[01:51] <ben> 8.04
[01:51] <animefanfive> cabrioleur: Probably I just hooked a new one up. Didn't even think of that so I will try.
[01:51] <cicero> oh it looks like I've found that it is simply networkmanager ( I had a dash in there)
[01:51] <cabrioleur> ceil420, nm-applet
[01:51] <dac_> Ubuntu *.04...
[01:51] <Jordan_U> cicero: nm-applet, but network-manager doesn't actually create the interfaces so if you don't see it in iwconfig it won't work in network-manager
[01:51] <dac_> Ubuntu8.04
[01:51] <MTecknology> Vantrax: does what run slow off the live cd? Ubuntu? Yes - it loads and expands what it needs from the cd into ram on a need basis... It's become much better though
[01:51] <cicero> oh wait, i spoke incorrectly networkmanager didn't work either i'll try nm-applet
[01:52] <Bashew_> Sorry about that, but I've got an issue with the 8.10 Beta, as well as all of the 8.10 Alphas
[01:52] <Vantrax> lol MTecknology was talkin to ben about his wireless nic
[01:52] <MTecknology> Vantrax: aight - sorry
[01:53] <MTecknology> Vantrax: I've just seen that question a lot
[01:53] <Vantrax> ben: so its not the signal or the hardware?
[01:53] <dac_> What is Ubuntu 8.04 desk edition???
[01:53] <cicero> Jordan_U,  is there any way that you know of to try to bring that particular interface back up?
[01:53] <Vantrax> MTecknology:  no kidding, me too
[01:53] <Godstrong> hey
[01:53] <ben> no it is ubuntu is installed to the hard drive
[01:53] <darkhamm> hey people, i've an error occurred when i refresh synaptic... how can i solve this?^
[01:53] <cabrioleur> dec_, you mean desktop?
[01:53] <Bashew_> So, would this be the room to talk about an issue with Ubuntu 8.10? Or could someone point me in the right direction... I'm sorry, but I'm stuck on irssi for the time being, and /list shows tooooo many channels for me to hunt down.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> cicero: Find out what kernel module creates it and load it with modprobe. Are you using ubuntu-eee 8.04.1 ?
[01:53] <cabrioleur> darkhamm, what's the error?
[01:53] <Bashew_> At least with the Beta
[01:54] <Vantrax> Bashew_, try ubuntu-1
[01:54] <Bashew_> Thanks
[01:54] <JakeMon> is there a ncurses/gui program for managing my apache sites on the cli?
[01:54] <cabrioleur> JakeMon, if I was a sarcastic person I would say vim.
[01:54] <cicero> Jordan_U, yes i am
[01:55] <GuZ> Whenever I try to run Firestarter I get a message ath0 device is not ready, anyone know why that happens?
[01:55] <Wapples> is there a way to resize a partition while accessing it?
[01:55] <Aeonis> okay, usser it's downloading now.
[01:55] <cabrioleur> Wapples, no.
[01:55] <cicero> Jordan_U,  wait how I find out which version I'm runningI simply typed in uname -a, and for me that produced the kernel number which was 2.6.24-21
[01:55] <cicero> -eeepc
[01:55] <JakeMon> cabrioleur: lol
[01:55] <Efrem_S> Excuse Me for going off-topic. I am working on my Midterm for c++ due Monday.......Where can I get help with programming c++ on ubuntu using MonoDevelop
[01:55] <Wapples> it was a good answer
[01:56] <Wapples> i didint think so
[01:56] <Wapples> i just didint want to have to burn gparted again
[01:56] <cicero> Jordan_U, how I find out which kernel module I need to reload that particular driver?
[01:56] <usser> Aeonis, cool
[01:56] <Jordan_U> cicero: I don't use ubuntu eee myself, Does it have ubuntu netboot remix or a more standard desktop?
[01:57] <cicero> know I'm currently working with the net book remix
[01:57] <GuZ> ubuntu eee was awful
[01:57] <GuZ> just go with regular ubunut
[01:57] <KenHirai> why does linux's sound turn into shit
[01:57] <Aeonis> when it's done usser, I may have to bug you again.  I'm trying to learn security.
[01:57] <Aeonis> gots to have this installed.
[01:57] <thiebaude> !language
[01:57] <htmljunkie> Ubuntu hasn't been made for EEE PC
[01:57] <Jordan_U> GuZ: What's horrible about it out of curiosity?
[01:57] <cabrioleur> Efrem_S, as for monodev you can ask in #mono, as for c++, you can ask in #c++
[01:57] <Tokorona> There's a ubunutu eee kernal at array.org
[01:57] <usser> Aeonis, cool so open terminal
[01:57] <joanki123> can anyone tell me the command to reset audio?
[01:57] <Tokorona> It's probably a better choice.
[01:58] <joanki123> my sound's not workin
[01:58] <usser> Aeonis, where did u save it?
[01:58] <cicero>  it doesn't really matter I'm simply trying to get wireless functionality working from a command prompt and I don't think the particular front end on the distribution makes a big difference here
[01:58] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  Thank You
[01:58] <GuZ> Jordan_U, the default maximizer, the awful and resource eating launcher mostly
[01:58] <Aeonis> it's still going usser...only 7% done.
[01:58] <htmljunkie> why is ubuntu EEE so awful?
[01:58] <Aeonis> oh jeez!  It ssays 45 minutes remaining...taking forever!!!
[01:58] <bruenig> GuZ: should use arch eee, that's where it's at
[01:58] <cabrioleur> htmljunkie, what do you mean?
[01:58] <Jordan_U> cicero: No, but it tells me if you are using 8.04 or 8.04.1 ( only 8.04.1 comes with netbook remix )
[01:58] <htmljunkie> GuZ said ubuntu eee is awefuk
[01:58] <l7> i thought the eee pc was pretty good
[01:58] <GuZ> dunno what that is,  bruenig, currently using just regular xubuntu
[01:58] <htmljunkie> awful
[01:58] <joanki123> can anyone tell me the command to reset audio?
[01:58] <cabrioleur> There is 8.04.1? Wow.
[01:58] <htmljunkie> he didn't explain why
[01:58] <Tokorona> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/
[01:59] <Tokorona> er.
[01:59] <Tokorona> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/  <- has an optimized kernal
[01:59] <bruenig> GuZ: arch is a distro, it uses the linux kernel and gnu tools
[01:59] <Tokorona> Apparetly for use with 8.04
[01:59] <Tokorona> Not sure how useful it is though
[01:59] <wartalker> how to set ubuntu to support touchpad?
[01:59] <dac_> No   On the CD jacket, ithas "Ubuntu8.04.1 LTS desktop edition",why is better
[01:59] <writing> what is the java sdk called in linux?
[01:59] <GuZ> what makes it better than my current xubuntu
[01:59] <cabrioleur> joanki123, are you using alsa or pulseaudio?
[01:59] <animefanfive> I switched my keyboard layout to Dell (It's only the basic one) and it still won't pick up the extra keys.
[01:59] <writing> I want to install java
[01:59] <cicero> okay so perhaps at this point I'm thinking that I need to simply shut down the PC?
[01:59] <joanki123> um... both but let me check
[01:59] <cabrioleur> writing, java sdk
[01:59] <bruenig> Tokorona: compile your own if you want the most possible optimized kernel
[01:59] <writing> how do I install it in ubuntu
[02:00] <Aeonis> hey, what's the main diff between ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu?
[02:00] <joanki123> cabrioleur, alsa
[02:00] <Vantrax> writing:  you know about apt get?
[02:00] <writing> yes, but I don't know how to query it
[02:00] <Tokorona> burenig: I just want something that would... well, get wireless support working for now. I can recompile it later. :/
[02:00] <l7> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kds, xubuntu = xfce
[02:00] <htmljunkie> Tokorona: Do you need ubuntu eee edition instaleld before installing that?
[02:00] <Tokorona> No.
[02:00] <Jordan_U> writing: apt-cache search, or if you prefer a gui use synaptic
[02:00] <cicero> Jordan_U, so any idea on how I could try to bring this interface up again or should I shut down the computer and restarts try to get that working
[02:01] <GuZ> xfce <3
[02:01] <Aeonis> xfce?  I've not seen this yet.....same for KDS...
[02:01] <Tokorona> Just 8.04
[02:01] <joanki123> cabrioleur, you there still?
[02:01] <joanki123> I usee alsa
[02:01] <l7> Aeonis: xfce uses less resources
[02:01] <GuZ> so does anyone know why Firestarter is telling me that my ath0 device isnt ready whenever i try to run it?
[02:01] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I'm going to reboot
[02:01] <Aeonis> better than gnome and kde l7?
[02:01] <Kr0ntab> Aeonis: he meant KDE
[02:01] <Aeonis> ahhh.
[02:02] <cicero> and if this doesn't work, I'm simply going to have to boot back into Windows because I have some important work of getting it done for tomorrow and this operating system just isn't reliable enough for me
[02:02] <cicero> or  I'm not smart enough to get it working correctly . . .
[02:02] <wartalker> how to install touchpad driver?
[02:02] <cabrioleur> joanki123, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[02:02] <Aeonis> Is xfce nice on the visual end, or is it rather bland?
[02:02] <htmljunkie> EEE PC's are a rip to me, they just keep updating them so you waste all that money on one and they come out with one like a month or two later lol
[02:02] <joanki123> thank you!!!!!
[02:02] <cicero> now this looks like it will even reboot, I am getting the error CIFS VFS: server not responding, no response for cmd 50 mid 32165
[02:03] <Aeonis> I don't mind the bland, but when the lady uses it, I'd like for her to be happy.
[02:03] <cabrioleur> Aeonis, it is nice but simplistic. I would say it's pretty and modern.
[02:03] <Aeonis> nice!
[02:03] <htmljunkie> Aeonis XFCE is like using windows 2k basically
[02:03] <htmljunkie> with the interface look
[02:03] <cabrioleur> htmljunkie, whaaaaat?
[02:03] <htmljunkie> :)
[02:03] <Vantrax> thats a good analogy
[02:03] <htmljunkie> I prefer gnome
[02:04] <Vantrax> me too:P
[02:04] <Jordan_U> htmljunkie: I disagree vehemently on that
[02:04] <htmljunkie> lol
[02:04] <Vantrax> Gnome + Compiz + Emerald + AWN:P
[02:04] <cabrioleur> I don't think the concept behind XFce has anything to do with Windows UI.
[02:04] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:04] <htmljunkie> XFCE has no real eyecandy to it
[02:04] <Aeonis> scary comparison htmljunkie ...  I'm moving away from Windows.
[02:04] <LjL> look, i don't know what's up tonight... BUT we have a very nice channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <htmljunkie> Aeonis get the new KDE or gnome
[02:04] <htmljunkie> you'll be happy
[02:04] <LjL> THIS channel is for support, on the other hand
[02:04] <Aeonis> htmljunkie: I'm on Ubuntu 8.04.  I like it :D
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Aeonis: Look at some XFCE screenshots, it's nothing like win2k
[02:05] <cabrioleur> LjL, and somebody asked about XFce :-)
[02:05] <Aeonis> dang!
[02:05] <Aeonis> Hey, I'm going to reboot and come back.  I want this to download a little faster...
[02:05] <htmljunkie> it was more or less a  comparison with the look of 2k IN the sense that the UI isn't eyecandy
[02:05] <htmljunkie> that's all
[02:05] <l7> how do the various linux distros for the eeepc stack up?
[02:05] <gregsparc> hi all....I've never seen this happen before. I'm trying out the livecd of Hardy on a new PC, and resolution looks great, but my LCD monitor keeps blinking off and back on at irregular intervals. The monitor works fine with other PCs. Anybody know anything?
[02:05] <Aeonis> unles syou guys know a better way.  Last time, it took about 8 minutes.  Now it's taking about 50
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> Problem with installing ubuntu8.04.  I click one of the top two options, locks for 4 seconds with HDD sounds, then I get back control.
[02:06] <l7> there's this ubuntu version somewhere and what looks like an older xubuntu
[02:06] <cicero> Jordan_U, so I've rebooted the computer and I have my ra0 interface backup it says that it's currently waiting on the network key and the network manager applet it shows that my network has 100% signal strength, but it is not giving me the opportunity to enter or change or view any processes in order to troubleshoot this
[02:06] <LjL> l7: better off asking in #eeepc
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> The console has a bunch of I/O errors too when the console pops up, if ever.
[02:06] <l7> LjL: k thanks
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm trying the 32 bit version on 64 now anyway.
[02:07] <cicero> one of the things that I'd like about this application is that it would give me some information to troubleshoot with.  That has traditionally been one of the strong things that I've liked about Linux is that it lease provides the information that I can work with but this network manager gives me absolutely nothing except a spinning icon that says waiting for the network key
[02:07] <Chickengeorge> hi there, Xubuntu is very good!!! super tiptop
[02:07]  * GuZ highfives Chickengeorge 
[02:07] <case^> w00t
[02:07] <GuZ> Go Xubuntu!
[02:07] <GuZ> Although I still cant get Firestarter working :(
[02:07] <GuZ> and thus cant connect to Xbox Lie
[02:07] <GuZ> Live
[02:08] <cicero> is there anything I can do while waiting for the network key for the wireless network?  Is there any tool that I can install it would give me some ability to troubleshoot wireless or is it something that simply works or it doesn't?
[02:08] <GuZ> Is anyone decent with firestarter?
[02:08] <cicero> what is firestarter?
[02:09] <LjL> a firewall
[02:09] <danbh_intrepid> GuZ: why do you need firestarter?  Why not just go without a firewall?
[02:09] <dulak> it's a graphical front end to iptables
[02:09] <GuZ> Its a type of firewall, but its also used to make a bridge
[02:09] <Jordan_U> cicero: If you want to see what actions are being taken by the wireless card you can use iwevent, not sure if that will be of any help though
[02:09] <eva> it's a firewall
[02:09] <danbh_intrepid> ah, I see
[02:09] <GuZ> danbh_intrepid, because I read I could use it as a bridge for my 360
[02:09] <JohnRobert> does anyone know how to convert cells whos values are the output of a function to 'static' cells in gnumeric?
[02:09] <GuZ> But have no idea how to do any of it :(
[02:09] <PassionFRUI7E> Can you burn the ubuntu8.04live iso to advd and it work?
[02:09] <cicero> Jordan_U, yes I need something that is in the sweet spot of providing information that would help me troubleshoot but not dumping a bunch of binary data or erp data on me
[02:10] <Jordan_U> PassionFRUI7E: Yes, there are also DVD images
[02:10] <LjL> cicero, tried "nm-tool" perhaps?
[02:10] <PassionFRUI7E> This is my fifth burn of an 8.04 and none have worked...
[02:10] <cicero> I just try to run that but it can't find the executable and it also can't find a package to install nm-tool
[02:11] <cicero> okay I got a running it seems that everything is correct except that it says there is both WEP, WPA AND WPA2 (I only have wpa)
[02:11] <cabrioleur> danbh_intrepid, going without a firewall is a security risk. Proper security measures will result in safer Linux environment.
[02:11] <cicero> and of course I have no IP address
[02:12] <Jordan_U> cicero: I believe that list just means that they are supported
[02:12] <cicero> so that application seems to just provide information on my current connection status and not helpful information on how to establish a connection which currently does not exist
[02:12] <xomp> anyone know why when I delete a message from Evolution (using my Gmail account) it doesn't delete the copy from Gmail? I have "When messages are accessed with POP delete Gmail's copy" set in Gmail.
[02:12] <cicero> Jordan_U, okay got it is there anything else I can do order I simply decided to give up on this
[02:12] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, have you tried to add any kernel options during startup?
[02:12] <cicero> and consider that this is only a distribution that I can work with a wired connection and that hopefully someday someone will develop a network tool that allows connectivity to wireless networks for linux
[02:12] <PassionFRUI7E> No I have not.  Msg me, brb 2 min.
[02:12] <cicero> with my particular wireless card
[02:13] <Jordan_U> cicero: You can try using iwconfig to setup the network, but if you need to get something done soon I would give up now honestly :(
[02:14] <LjL> cicero, surely if the card isn't recognized in the first place, n-m will do naught about it
[02:14] <cicero> Jordan_U, got it thanks for your advice -- I'll try back in a month or two and see if someone is fixed this problem. LjL, the card is currently recognized that there's no way it can connect to my network, or give me any information to troubleshoot with and why the network connection is not being established
[02:15] <riegersn> how can i format my drive to ntfs ?
[02:15] <LjL> cicero, get rid of n-m and try to configure it manually is my advice
[02:15] <cicero> thanks everyone for your help, now to get to work ( unfortunately on Windows :<)
[02:15] <LjL> riegersn: man mkfs.ntfs
[02:16] <Failtacular> ?
[02:17] <Failtacular> ??
[02:17] <Failtacular> ???????????????//
[02:17] <Failtacular> Hello?
[02:17] <cabrioleur> Yes?
[02:18] <Failtacular> soory
[02:18] <Failtacular> *sorry
[02:18] <xomp> why does removing evolution-data-server-common require the removal of ubuntu-desktop, gnome-applets etc.? I would be left with nothing if I were to remove evolution it seems >:(
[02:18] <Failtacular> Never been in a chat room before
[02:18] <cabrioleur> xomp, inter-dependencies :-D
[02:18] <Failtacular> let alone Ubuntu
[02:18] <xomp> cabrioleur, nice, so you're restricted from downsizing your footprint in ubuntu because of this :(
[02:19] <cabrioleur> xomp, yes.
[02:19] <xomp> linux for human beings amirite? lmao
[02:19] <cabrioleur> Failtacular, if you want to chat about Linux, and not looking for help, you are welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <cabrioleur> xomp, as it says, it's for human beings, not geeks! ;-)
[02:20] <dgs> is ubuntu 8.10 rc only available as a dvd iso? i can't see a cd image on the ubuntu site...
[02:20] <GuZ> should i give up my firestarter problem in here D:
[02:21] <xomp> cabrioleur, I find it unrealistic to have the OS uninstall (basically) just from removing the email software lol, who made that decision? hah
[02:21] <J-_> Does anyone use ddclient with afraid.org, or any other IP update utility with afraid.org services? I need some help.
[02:21] <cabrioleur> xomp, it's a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic or other channel. If I say what I think here, they will burn me on stake and kidnap my dog.
[02:21] <veryangryman> why this find: find . -name *.sh in directory /usr/bin WORKS! However in /home/me/tmp it says: find: paths must precede expression
[02:22] <kevsthabest> Hey guys, anyone ever had an issue with resizing a vista formated NTFS drive using gparted? it wont show the free space whatsoever :S
[02:23] <cabrioleur> kevsthabest, yes, if your ntfs partition is damaged. You need to fix it with ntfsfix or windows based software.
[02:23] <Failtacular> *Ahem*
[02:23] <kevsthabest> cabrioleur: thank you, i will give ntfsfix a try
[02:23] <Rave1_> dgs http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[02:23] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  There is alsothe Channel:  ##C++ for direct c++ help.....again thanks....A good friend of mine opened my eyes up to the wonderful world of linux.  I am new but learning alot :)
[02:24] <T_Davis> I am attempting to install hardy on an older thinkpad iseries, the installer boots, partitioner hangs at 33%, searched google, no joy
[02:24] <T_Davis> help?
[02:24] <T_Davis> using the acpi=off and noapic switches already
[02:24] <threethirty> T_Davis: did you make sure that the image was bured correctly
[02:24] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrrrr
[02:24] <grendal_prime> compiz in kde is killing me
[02:24] <cabrioleur> Efrem_S, welcome on board, mate :-)
[02:25] <grendal_prime> everything seems to be working ok..accept i cant adjust it in any way.
[02:25] <T_Davis> yes, md5 checks, check cd works, installs fine on other machines
[02:25] <threethirty> T_Davis: then i have no idea sorry
[02:25] <T_Davis> its acting like its hunting the floppy drive
[02:25] <dgs> Rave1_: cheers =) for some reason google sent me to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/rc/ which only had the dvds. dowloading now =)
[02:25] <T_Davis> is there a switch something like nofloppy?
[02:26] <runman> anyone know when the new openoffice 3.0 will make it into the repos?
[02:26] <Efrem_S> cabrioleur:  Thank you and it is an Honor to be aboard....P.S:  My friend is practically a Guru....He is one of the best at Ubuntu
[02:26] <vigilant> hi all
[02:26] <vigilant> many people in here! :)
[02:26] <threethirty> runman: i should be in the interpid repos
[02:26] <runman> i'm running interpid but still 2.4.1??
[02:27] <threethirty> runman: wow, that is crazy... have you check to see if its on getdeb.net?
[02:27] <cabrioleur> T_Davis, you can turn it off in BIOS. I recommend several additional options for installation: noapic, nolapic, pnpbios=off, and the ones you had before.
[02:28] <runman> i'm not using proposed or backports repos but the others
[02:28] <vigilant> Does ubuntu support wireless cards well?
[02:28] <PassionFRUI7E> cabrioleur:  Have you ever heard of nothing happening for 4 seconds after selecting one of the installation options?
[02:28] <T_Davis> some
[02:28] <_2> how hard is it to convert my ubuntu router from all static to a dhcp server ?
[02:28] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, yes, it's normal. Something does happens, just hidden.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Then its like you never clcked anything, back to selecting options.  I've never gotten to the desktop.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Then how I run linux like the tutorals?
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> Sorry, half-broken "i" key.
[02:29] <jamesish> About to dist-upgrade to Intrepid. Wish me luck.
[02:29] <PassionFRUI7E> GLHF.
[02:29] <nkei0> heya everyone, anyone know how to fix the freezing issue when acpi is on?
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> is intreped ready?
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> ill dist upgrade with you...
[02:30] <PassionFRUI7E> I've been trying for hours to install ubuntu8.04...
[02:30] <jamesish> Intrepid's seven days away. I always upgrade a few days early to beat the hammering on the server.
[02:30] <jamesish> Servers.
[02:30] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I'm willing to bet you're having the same issue with acpi
[02:30] <[ipc]-michael> so you're installing beta?
[02:30] <jamesish> Totally.
[02:30] <PassionFRUI7E> ACPI?
[02:31] <[ipc]-michael> hmmm
[02:31] <jamesish> But it's beta that's only 7 days away from being production quality. There's not much will happen between now and then.
[02:31] <[ipc]-michael> ive got proposed updates in my repos, i supposed im pretty close anyway
[02:31] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, I would suggest multiple options for kernel during startup: noapic  acpi=off nolapic pnpbios=off
[02:31] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: Yeah, you can get some things done during install and then all of a sudden everything freezes?  You can still move the cursor but you can't do anything with it?
[02:31] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.  Will try.
[02:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes.  I've never been able to do anything but select boot from HD.
[02:32] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: to add to what cabrioleur said, i have to use acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, and edd=on to not freeze
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> FYI I have 64 bit 2x2.0 hp pavilon dv7-1130us 4gigs
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> kk
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks so much.
[02:32] <T_Davis> whats edd?
[02:32] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: Are you installing from a livecd?
[02:32] <threethirty> does anyone know where i can download ubotu for use on my own channel?
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> home premium
[02:32] <PassionFRUI7E> live, yes.
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> I have an empty 60 gig thats unpartitioned
[02:33] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: When you boot from the cd and it has all of the options press F6 and select all the options and press escape and then type them into the command line shown
[02:33] <cabrioleur> T_Davis, enhanced disk drive support
[02:33] <T_Davis> hurm, may help me
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm?  Okay?  nkei0
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Isn't there more though to actually install it?
[02:33] <PassionFRUI7E> I have zero linux experience...
[02:34] <nkei0> Yeah, I mean when you select those options it shouldn't freeze during the install
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> Then select the top install option?  or the second?
[02:34] <LightTitan> I just want to be able to play rented DVD's in my Linux... please help. Is there a one-in-all codec package that is easy to load?
[02:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm keeping vista.
[02:34] <T_Davis> I vaguely remember an alternative kernel I had to use on my tp770, but I dont remember what it was
[02:34] <nkei0> LightTitan: VLC
[02:35] <LightTitan> I have that installed, it's not playing the DVD
[02:35] <T_Davis> ancient old thing
[02:35] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I've never tried the 64 bit, what are the two options?
[02:35] <PassionFRUI7E> I cant remember..Top one is like install without touching hd and second is normal
[02:35] <cabrioleur> PassionFRUI7E, doesn't metter at this point, I always use the top one.
[02:35] <PassionFRUI7E> k.
[02:35] <nkei0> LightTitan: You could also try classic media player, it can pretty much play anything.
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Any way to install without burning a cd?
[02:36] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: the one without touching the HD is just a trial to use it without affecting anything, to actually install it you have to put it on the HD
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> I just burnt my last one and need to hit the store tomorrow lol...
[02:36] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, you need to install libdvdcss2
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> K.
[02:36] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: You can boot from a USB stick.
[02:36] <veryangryman> why this find: find . -name *.sh in directory /usr/bin WORKS! However in /home/me/tmp it says: find: paths must precede expression
[02:36] <PassionFRUI7E> I do have a 2gb stick
[02:36] <T_Davis> cabrioleur: this could be an issue, bios reads the drive as 4.6gb partitioner reads as 4.9
[02:36] <veryangryman> 2gb stick sux
[02:36] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[02:37] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: It will work as long as when you have it in and go into bios you can select it to boot first.
[02:37] <cabrioleur> LightTitan, unless you are living in USA then it's illegal.
[02:37] <tritium> cabrioleur: just point him to medibuntu for that
[02:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes I can change order.
[02:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Extract iso to root directory?
[02:37] <LightTitan> ok I will try that Cabrioleur
[02:38] <nkei0> PassionFRUI7E: I can't remember the exact procedure for it, but if you google installing from a usb stick you can find it
[02:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks.  Got it.
[02:38] <runman> PassionFRUI7E: search for unetbootin, it will do it for you
[02:39] <nkei0> runman: aha, thanks that's what it was, i couldn't remember off the top of my head
[02:39] <[ipc]-michael> doing dist upgrade. wish me luck...
[02:39] <LightTitan> now I get "too many video packets in the buffer"
[02:40] <[ipc]-michael> intrepid here i come
[02:40] <LightTitan> restarting X...
[02:40] <nkei0> [ipc]-michael: you should be fine, i haven't had any problems yet that i didn't have in hardy
[02:40] <PassionFRUI7E> I give up.   I'll try again tomorrow...
[02:42] <jamesish> Go go [ipc]-michael! Join the future.
[02:43] <hekin> hey, guys, I only have the terminal but the desktop, what do i need to do display Chinese in my terminal?
[02:43] <runman> type in Chinese ::-D
[02:44] <jamesish> Install the chinese language pack?
[02:44] <hekin> runman: I can't type in Chinese, becos I only have terminal
[02:44] <hekin> jamesish: would u mind being more specific?
[02:44] <ajian> he
[02:44] <ajian> 你们都能说英语？
[02:45] <ajian> 好强悍阿！
[02:45] <jamesish> hekin: I've never done it, but I imagine that if you look around online you'll find some method of installing the language pack that supports chinese. Install that.
[02:45] <hekin> ajian：没法子，老外的群嘛，呵呵
[02:45] <hekin> jamesish: thanks, man
[02:45] <jamesish> hekin: thank me after it works :P
[02:45] <hekin> jamesish: OK
[02:45] <ajian> 哈哈
[02:46] <ajian> 佩服
[02:46] <jamesish> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-240489.html talks about chinese language
[02:46] <hekin> jamesish: great!!
[02:47] <jamesish> ﻿[ipc]-michael -- intrepid is currently a release candidate, so they're actually assuming it's stable enough that the current package/bugfix list is capable of becoming the real release.
[02:48] <jamesish> looks like  export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 might well get the lang variable correctly. But I don't know, as I know insufficient chinese to actually test it :P
[02:48] <filth_> hm. is there a way to set textwidth, like with vim's set textwidth=75 in gedit?
[02:49] <jamesish> filth_: yes, but I'm drawing a blank right now.
[02:50] <r2s1> what should I do when PhpPgAdmin export page showing blank page ??
[02:50] <jamesish> r2s1: panic! You've been hacked!
[02:50] <filth_> jamesish: are you trying to be funny.
[02:50] <filth_> i'm looking for a similar feature as the vim set textwidth=75.
[02:51] <jamesish> filth_: in my response to you no, but I did misread your question.
[02:52] <jamesish> filth_: there's a right margin setting you can set up. Sounds like the same thing, really.
[02:52] <jamesish> filth_: Hm. You can show a margin at 75, but it doesn't force wraparound.
[02:53] <rambo298> any open office word experts here?
[02:53] <komputes> i think it's called writer
[02:53] <Rideh> wierd dhcp issue - fixing a eeepc running ubuntu   the wireless settings got fubar'd and there is now a device called wlan0-avahi  i've tried the follwoing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2589498 and have gotten the wifi to connect to my network however the dhcp client seems to be jacked up.  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 etc
[02:53] <JakeMon> what do i have to install to get mod_rewrite for apache? the package names aren't obvious enough :-\
[02:53] <filth_> jamesish: i'll take a look at that, thanks.
[02:53] <Rideh> states network unreachable
[02:53] <rambo298> well when you run it from the gnome dropdown it's openoffice.org Word Processor
[02:54] <Vantrax> Rideh, that shoudl probably be 255.255.255.1
[02:54] <hekin> jamesish: I've installed language-pack-zh for Chinese, it doesn't work
[02:54] <runman> rambo298: whats your question
[02:54] <jamesish> hekin: told you that thanks was premature ;)
[02:54] <komputes> hey look at that it is
[02:54] <rambo298> i want less than single spacing between lines; i only see 1 11/2 and double spacing
[02:54] <CJMCKEE> Does anyone know how to get a USB CardBus Adapter to work in Ubuntu?
[02:54] <cabrioleur> filth_, not really, you can set up the margin and text wrapping.
[02:54] <jamesish> Vantrax: No, 255.255.255.255 is correct in that case.
[02:55] <cabrioleur> Scrolling problem again...
[02:55] <hekin> jamesish: I own u a apology for tt:-D
[02:55] <komputes> if you see 1 11/2 and double spacing select 1
[02:55] <rambo298> i did; i want smaller than 1 ... the lines are too far apart
[02:55] <hekin> jamesish: but how to display simplified Chinese character in my Ubuntu's terminal?
[02:55] <Rideh> So my question is where can i modify the config for dhcp? i've restarted the service but cant seem to find any conf files for it
[02:55] <hekin> hekin: I also export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
[02:56] <runman> rambo298: set it to fixed and you can specify and size
[02:57] <runman> and = any
[02:57] <rambo298> runman: ty
[02:57] <dissentience> Hi there, I have installed Ubuntu from Windows and need to reinstall it, for some reason I can't find the partition where it is located -- under Drive Management in Vista it shows the drive as having one partition using all the space. How can I get rid of Ubuntu so I may reinstall it?
[02:58] <jamesish> hekin: I'm honestly not sure. Did you export the environment variable I displayed above?
[02:58] <hekin> jamesish: which one?
[02:58] <jamesish> If you add it to your .bashrc, log out and log in that should show whether it works. Make sure you have another terminal open so you can fix anything easily if something goes wrong.
[02:58] <jamesish> Ah, okay
[02:58] <runman> dissentience: when you install Ubuntu inside windows I believe the drive is virtual and only a single file
[02:58] <hekin> jamesish: u mean LANG
[02:58] <jamesish> ﻿(07:48:11 PM) jamesish: looks like  export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 might well get the lang variable correctly. But I don't know, as I know insufficient chinese to actually test it
[02:59] <hekin> jamesish: OK, I'll relogin to find out
[02:59] <JakeMon> what do i have to install to get mod_rewrite for apache? the package names aren't obvious enough :-\ ... anyone know or can tell me how to figure it out?
[02:59] <fulat2k> hi folks, created a usb live for 8.04 using the howto in the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740924).  when i tried to do the same for 8.10 beta, it gives me "unknown command in syslinux.cfg".  any idea what's wrong?
[02:59] <dissentience> runman - I have Show Hidden Files and Folders on, and don't see the file
[02:59] <CJMCKEE> I got a USB Card Bus Adapter that goes into my PC Card slot...but Ubuntu isnt recognizing it...any suggestions?
[02:59] <dissentience> I do however see a folder called ubuntu... I am assuming this is it?
[03:00] <runman> what is in the ubuntu folder
[03:00] <zackattack> Hey all. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) on one of my boxes, and want to do an upgrade. What do you guys think the best way to do this would be?
[03:00] <dissentience> disks / docs / install / winboot / couple txt's / ubuntu icon / uninstall EXE that doesn't do anything
[03:00] <jamesish> hekin: just bear in mind that's in the bashrc, so it talks to bash specifically.
[03:00] <mouseboyx> zackattack, do you have data you need on the box?
[03:00] <zackattack> mouseboyx: yes definitely
[03:00] <hekin> jamesish: all the Chinese chars are replaced with little diamonds
[03:00] <runman> check under disks
[03:01] <dissentience> boot / shared / root.disk and swap.disk
[03:01] <mouseboyx> zackattack, i would just back it up then do a fresh install if it was me.
[03:01] <zackattack> mouseboyx: may prove difficult, i need to do this remotely
[03:01] <mouseboyx> I would wait untill you dont have to do it remotely.
[03:02] <runman> root.disk and swap.disk are the virtual drives I was talking about
[03:02] <dissentience> runman why would the uninstall EXE not work properly?
[03:02] <zackattack> mouseboyx: not an option
[03:02] <dissentience> i double-click it and it does nothing
[03:02] <runman> I wont'
[03:02] <jamesish> hekin: That's good and bad. Good because it means something's working, bad because it means we have to find the right language pack and install it. Go forth and research ;)
[03:02] <runman> windows doesn't know what to do with it
[03:03] <dissentience> even though it's an EXE file?
[03:03] <runman> I'm talking about the *.disk files.
[03:03] <hekin> jamesish: OK, deal:)\
[03:03] <dissentience> oh, true
[03:03] <dissentience> i mean, there is an uninstall-ubuntu.exe file that does nothing
[03:03] <runman> just reinstall
[03:03] <mouseboyx> zackattack, just do sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[03:03] <dissentience> so delete the whole folder, put in my Ubuntu CD and reinstall?
[03:04] <runman> that would probably work but I haven't tested
[03:04] <dissentience> how else would you suggest doing it?
[03:04] <moes> Hardy 8.04 Compiz 0.7.4
[03:05] <runman> I install to separate partition, not inside windows.  Better performance running native instead of virtual
[03:06] <dissentience> right, but how would i go about removing the virtual properly so i can reinstall
[03:06] <e-frame> dissentience: if u installed ubuntu with wubi, then u can uninstall it like other apps in win***s
[03:06] <dissentience> i didn't install it with Wubi i don't think, but i did install it from Windows
[03:06] <dissentience> either way, when i try to remove it from Add/Remove Programs it doesn't work; nothing happens
[03:07] <runman> delete the ubuntu folder
[03:07] <K_Dallas> Good evening guys! Q: In prior to 8.04 version, I used to change my display in xorg.config but in 8.04 and 8.10 there is barely anything there. How do I manipulate video card's resolution, etc? Thanks
[03:07] <e-frame> how did u install from windows without wubi ?
[03:07] <Rideh> any idea why my wlan0 will be connected, shows device but cant obtain a lease from the dhcp server?  errors out with no working leases in persistent database  and i dont have mac filtering or anything enabled
[03:07] <layla> hello
[03:07] <Rideh> e-frame: vmware?
[03:07] <dissentience> i just put in the CD and double-clicked umenu.exe from it
[03:07] <mneptok> Rideh: MAC filtering?
[03:07] <layla> I'm new here
[03:07] <dissentience> i do see a wubi.exe on the CD now too though
[03:07] <runman> you can add to xorg.conf but the new xorg server autodetects most settings
[03:08] <dissentience> so it must have used wubi
[03:08] <e-frame> Rideh:  that was my question for dissentience. sorry
[03:08] <alteregoa> where can i get the fnord?
[03:08] <Rideh> mneptok: router option to allow only known mac's
[03:08] <moes> Hardy 8.0.4 compiz 0.7.4 emerald 0.7.2 I am trying to get emerald to run in compiz when I type emerald --replace in console the console border changed but disappeared when I close console
[03:08] <e-frame> !wubi > dissentience
[03:08] <mneptok> Rideh: so then you need to add the MAC address to the router's whitelist
[03:09] <dissentience> thank you e-frame
[03:09] <Rideh> mneptok: it is not turned on
[03:10] <Rideh> mneptok: thats what i'm tryng to say is that there is no reason i can think of why it wouldnt obtain info from the dhcp server
[03:10] <mneptok> Rideh: check the dhcpd server logs?
[03:10] <Rideh> cant - its a router
[03:10] <Rideh> you mean the dhcpd daemon?
[03:10] <e-frame> dissentience: yw
[03:11] <mneptok> Rideh: yes.
[03:11] <mneptok> Rideh: if your router doesn't provide a logging mechanism, that's ... some seriously cheap hardware ;)
[03:12] <Rideh> mneptok: i can take a look but i dont think it logs dhcp hits
[03:12] <mneptok> Rideh: who makes the router?
[03:12] <Rideh> linksys
[03:13] <Rideh> give me a sec and i'll look
[03:13] <Rideh> this eeepc is a pain in the ass to type on
[03:13] <runman> Rideh: check out dd-wrt for the linksys
[03:13] <Rideh> i have big hands. so i have to use my pinkys
[03:13] <mouseboyx> How small is the keyboard really, i was looking to get a netbook?
[03:13] <Rideh> i run that on my wrt54
[03:13] <mneptok> pinksys?
[03:13] <mneptok> i thought you said linksys
[03:13] <mneptok> *bah dum tish*
[03:14] <mongolai> mneptok:  boooo!
[03:14] <Rideh> mouseboyx: not comfortable for me at all 6'2"   i use a ibmt61p 14.1" and love it
[03:14] <Debolaz> Someone recommend a good webdav client for ubuntu.
[03:14] <Rideh> this eeepc is... i guess it'd be find with a extra keyboard
[03:15] <Rideh> mouseboyx: i can type quicker on my htc shadow than on this eeepc
[03:15] <mouseboyx> Rideh I have small fingers so i guess it wouldn't matter...
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: Nautilus
[03:15] <Rideh> easier for me to type on my phone than this though
[03:15] <Debolaz> mneptok: Isn't that the default file browser for ubuntu?
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: correct
[03:15] <Rideh> i guess it'd work for lightweight situations - but i rather just have my t61p :)
[03:15] <mneptok> Debolaz: and don;t you want to browse files?
[03:16] <Debolaz> mneptok: It's extremely buggy, bordering to useless when it comes to webdav.
[03:16] <mneptok> Debolaz: WFM
[03:16] <JakeMon> what does this mean? Can't list subversion repository: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale svn: warning: environment variable LANG is aa_DJ.utf8 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct svn: Unable to open an ra_local session to URL svn: Unable to open repository 'file:///vol/srv/www/htdocs/usvn/files/svn/easyrevisions' svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'
[03:17] <mneptok> JakeMon: your default language is Arabic-Djibouti
[03:17] <JakeMon> mneptok: how do i change it?
[03:17] <alteregoa> mac adress is, 19432 queens blvd, NY - Queens
[03:18] <Rideh> mneptok: looks like the mac address from this eeepc isnt showing up on the dhcp client log in my router
[03:18] <mneptok> Rideh: that would cause problems, yes. ;)
[03:18] <runman> not doing mac filtering??
[03:19] <Rideh> no
[03:19] <Rideh> its disabled right now
[03:19] <mneptok> Rideh: try disabling authentication to the WAP and see if that helps connectivity
[03:19] <Rideh> what tool is used in gnome to show ssid's?
[03:20] <Rideh> er to find avail networks?
[03:20] <runman> networkmanager??
[03:20] <Rideh> and why is wlan0 broken but wlan0:avahi on but when i attempt to configure it says device doesnt exist
[03:20] <drumstyk1> i can't get youtube vids to go into fullscreen, any ideas?
[03:20] <c0mp13371331337> I'm attempting to modify a metacity theme I found on gnome-look.org.  The theme uses small .png images to create the window-border.  The unfortunate thing about this is the images are rectangular, and I'm looking to have rounded corners.  As it stands, the corners are black, which looks fine against a black background, but it's completely visible against any other color.  Does metacity support the transparent alpha channel when drawi
[03:21] <J-_> can someone suggest an easy dynamic IP client to update my IP with my server with freedns.afraid.org services?
[03:21] <Rideh> runman: where is network manager at by default? i'm not findin git
[03:21] <runman> in ubuntu,
[03:21] <runman> its the network icon in the top right corner
[03:22] <Woody86> which program is more compatible with Microsoft - OpenProj or Planner?
[03:22] <drumstyk1> has anyone beem able to watch a youtube vid in fullscreen?
[03:23] <Rideh> J-_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[03:23] <Marfi> drumstyk1, yes, but it is laggggggy
[03:23] <Rideh> runman: when i go there there are 2 options wired network (grey) and manual configuration
[03:24] <mneptok> J-_: apt-get install inadyn
[03:24] <bfig> hello, how can i lock my keyboard, so when i press my keys they don't do anything, something like a combination of keys... i remember in windows there was a function, something like shift f11, but now i can't see how to do it. is there any ubuntu counterpart of that function?
[03:25] <drumstyk1> Marfi: so is it normal for the fullscreen button to not work for more than a split second?
[03:25] <mouseboyx> lol bfig just playing around now i accidentaly found it ctrl+alt+L
[03:26] <bfig> mouseboyx: that locks me but the screen changes, i want to see the current screen and my keyboard be disabled
[03:26] <Marfi> drumstyk1, full screen works for me fine, but it lags. i have a pretty decent vid card and processor, and it still lags. its almost better just to watch it small imo
[03:26] <bfig> .
[03:26] <Marfi> drumstyk1, i prefer small and smooth as opposed to big and choppy. just my 2 cents though. =)
[03:27] <mouseboyx> Bfig, that does not exist to my knewledge
[03:27] <drumstyk1> Marfi: same here w/ the cpu and vid card. i was hoping there was a solution but i suppose i will have to deal with it
[03:27] <runman> mouseboyx: when i click on the logout icon there is a lock screen option that I think does what you want
[03:27] <Marfi> drumstyk1, new version is out in a few days *crosses fingers*
[03:27] <mouseboyx> Marfi, Flash videos?
[03:28] <bfig> mouseboyx: thanks =(
[03:28] <DavidCraft> I screwed up the sudoers file... and now I can't edit it because I need to 'sudo' to edit it.  SUgestions?
[03:28] <DavidCraft> Just boot off a CD and replace it?
[03:28] <mneptok> Marfi: diable visual effects
[03:28] <mneptok> *disable
[03:28] <Rideh> thanks for helpin guys i'll work on it more tommorrow long day today
[03:28] <mneptok> DavidCraft: boot to recovery mode and fix it
[03:28] <Marfi> mneptok, never run with them
[03:29] <DavidCraft> meh, k
[03:29] <mneptok> Marfi: what video chipset?
[03:29] <Marfi> mneptok, nvidia 7600 gtx with 512 ram, and a p4 2.4 ghz
[03:30] <Marfi> 512 meg video ram, 1 gig ram
[03:30] <Marfi> laptop is a centrino with 2 gigs of ram, and same problem. runs regular movies without a fart or hickup
[03:30] <mouseboyx> Marfi are we talking about flash videos?
[03:30] <mneptok> Marfi: whose drivers?
[03:30] <qbmaniac> Any easy way to find IN files? like in the content of a .pdf ?
[03:31] <drumstyk1> Marfi: damn, i will make the boyfriend keep up with it
[03:31] <Marfi> mouseboyx, yea, but i just watch them smaller. mneptok what do you mean with the drivers? drumstyk1 , thats what my girlfriend does. =)
[03:31] <e-frame> Woody86: how about open office base
[03:32] <runman> Marfi:  youtube plays fullscreen fine here, ubuntu 8.10
[03:32] <mindrape> qbmaniac - cat /this/folder/* | grep "something"  mebbe?
[03:32] <mneptok> Marfi: free drivers (e.g. Nouveau) or binary blobs (nvidia-glx*)?
[03:32] <Marfi> mneptok, binary blobs. runman what driver?
[03:32] <runman> radeon
[03:32] <mouseboyx> Marfi, this is an error with flash, because it for the most part sucks, you can use "video download helper" to download them in flv format then open them with mplayer or totem for perfect fullscreen
[03:32] <runman> i have ati video card
[03:32] <DavidCraft> mneptok: Alright I am in rescue mode, and I seam to only be able to edit the file in 'read only' and I cant sudo or anything
[03:33] <mneptok> DavidCraft: mount the partition read/write
[03:33] <halberd> how can I get the best of both worlds: full-screen command line with "screen," plus irc and a browser running on X11, with the ability to paste between the two?
[03:33] <Marfi> mouseboyx, its hoenstly not that big of a deal for me. how are the open drivers?
[03:33] <halberd> copy/paste
[03:33] <mouseboyx> ok then
[03:33] <mneptok> halberd: ctl-shift-c/v
[03:34] <J-_> mneptok:  In the tutorial, it says, "Edit the file to add the following additional line: @reboot /usr/sbin/inadyn" I have no clue what that means. Do I put, "@reboot /usr/sbin/inadyn" in the crontab?
[03:34] <Marfi> halberd, different workspace with full screen terminal + the brower and irc
[03:34] <Marfi> halberd, or you can alt + f* and switch workspace like that to give yourself a full screen terminal
[03:34] <Woody86> e-frame -  i'm open to suggestions :) Is Base really more compatible than OpenProj or Planner?
[03:34] <mneptok> J-_: yeah, that's what they mean, but that's ugly. better to add it to Upstart ;)
[03:34] <J-_> Upstart?
[03:34] <J-_> Never heard of it.
[03:35] <mneptok> J-_: Ubuntu's SysV-init replacement
[03:35] <jamesish> Upstart took over from the init scripts a while back.
[03:35] <freetown> anything like SMF on Solaris or djb's daemontools?
[03:35] <Joker_-_> IS that possible to copy over an installation of ubuntu? I have a server that is setup well, with datas and all but I installed 2 new drives in it in order to make raid mirroring. I re-ran the install and setup raid and everything is functionnal. Can I just copy over all the datas on my older drive? I guess the kernel has to have some different modules or something in order to load the software raid... any idea?
[03:35] <WelshDragon> Hey, When running dstat, only every other line, does it actually show the network transfer rate. On the other lines the transfer rates (up and down) are at 0. Any idea why and how to fix?
[03:35] <J-_> How do I get upstart running?
[03:35] <drumstyk1> Marfi: yeah, my bf doesn't know anything about ubuntu but i give him google assignments now and then
[03:35] <halberd> yes marfi that's what I've been doing with alt-f* but is it possible to make a workspace appear exactly like text mode?
[03:35] <freetown> jamesish,  is Upstart anything like SMF on Solaris or djb's daemontools?
[03:36] <Guest79993> can someone help me with a wireless problem, i was connected fine and suddenly my wireless stopped working and i booted to a live cd and to dapper and it still didnt work even when i swapped out the cards
[03:36] <phantomcircuit> Im getting an error opening a power point presentation with presenter, "General Error.\nGeneral input/output error."
[03:36] <Guest79993> right now im on windows
[03:36] <Joker_-_> let me reformulate: How do I copy all a server's data that was on a single hard drive to an array?
[03:36] <Guest79993> ubuntu finds the card the drivers are loaded it just doesnt connect
[03:36] <halberd> i.e. no menus, no distracting mouse pointer
[03:36] <Marfi> halberd, you can use ctrl alt + arrow key and just open a terminal there. i like it like that, because you have to mess with configs to get the resolution < 800 x 600
[03:36] <usser_> Joker_-_, if its a hardware raid then ubuntu doesnt care as long as its supported by kernel
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, *dont have to mess
[03:37] <Guest79993> can someone please help i cant get on the internet anymore
[03:37] <Joker_-_> Server.Datas.ToArray() ?
[03:37] <Joker_-_> usser_: sadly, it's not. I'ts software
[03:37] <usser_> Joker_-_, its gonna see the array as a regular single disk
[03:37] <usser_> Joker_-_, and the modules for hardware are loaded on startup
[03:37] <Marfi> Guest79993, your here, so it must be working. =P
[03:37] <halberd> marfi but then how do you copy paste
[03:37] <halberd> between X and the terminal
[03:37] <Joker_-_> usser_: as previously said, sadly, it's not
[03:37] <Joker_-_> hence my presence here
[03:37] <jamesish> freetown: more like apple's startup stuff.
[03:37] <Guest79993> stfu Marfi
[03:37] <Marfi> Guest79993, whats the problem?
[03:37] <Guest79993> lol
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, ctrl shift v
[03:37] <Marfi> halberd, when workign with the terminal
[03:37] <cens0red> I want to move my / partition to another hard drive. Can I do this under linux?
[03:38] <Guest79993> my computer isnt connecting to wireless networks
[03:38] <mneptok> Joker_-_: dd or rsync
[03:38] <usser_> Joker_-_, sorry, i've never dealt with software raid. sorry i jumped in like that
[03:38] <freetown> jamesish, oh...is that what hardy heron uses?
[03:38] <halberd> well with screen I need to do C-a <space> <space>
[03:38] <Guest79993> im getting a signal it just doesnt connect
[03:38] <usser_> cens0red, yes of course
[03:38] <Marfi> Guest79993, what card?
[03:38] <Guest79993> four marfi
[03:38] <jamesish> freetown: yeah, it is. Do a little read up on it if you like, but it's dry stuff.
[03:38] <cens0red> usser_ but how?
[03:38] <Guest79993> linksys wireless g , two intel mini ipw2200 and an atheros g
[03:38] <Joker_-_> mneptok: rsync and/or dd will overwrite all the kernel's modules and so on. then the system wont boot
[03:38] <Guest79993> all have the drivers but none connect
[03:38] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys.  I'm having some trouble setting up samba shares with ubuntu.  I've got 2 machines both running hardy, both attached to the same router. (one wirelessly, one wired) and they can both ping each other.  I've set up sharing on 2 folders (right clicking the folder, sharing options etc) and from Computer 1 I can access the share easily...just smb://192.168.0.6/Shared in nautilus, it asks for username and password and we're away.  Problem is from
[03:38] <m1dn1ght> Comp 2 to Comp 1 it's not accepting any username or password and won't mount the share
[03:39] <halberd> terminal has no mouse
[03:39] <halberd> it's just a tty
[03:39] <halberd> ctrl shift v doesn't work I think...
[03:39] <Guest79993> i think its an issue with network manager
[03:39] <freetown> jamesish, sure, thanks
[03:39] <Joker_-_> mneptok: either be more specific or forget the whole idea
[03:39] <Marfi> Guest79993, the ipw2200 will be the best bet for you
[03:39] <Marfi> halberd, it should
[03:39] <m1dn1ght> Sorry for the long question.  Any help would be much appreciated.
[03:39] <mneptok> Joker_-_: "try using the applications dd or rsync"
[03:39] <Guest79993> none of them are working Marfi
[03:39] <Marfi> halberd, it does. just tried it
[03:39] <justin_> under linux, is there a reason for an anti-virus
[03:39] <Marfi> halberd, to copy its ctrl shift v
[03:39] <Debolaz> mneptok: davfs2 worked. :)
[03:39] <Joker_-_> mneptok: havent you just read what i said? What about the kernel and grub and all. System just wont boot.
[03:39] <m1dn1ght> justin_: only to make sure you don't pass them on to windows-using friends
[03:40] <usser_> cens0red, boot into live cd use fdisk -l to figure out which partition is your / its usually something like sda1
[03:40] <Marfi> justin_, unless your runnign a server for windows machines or paranoid, nope
[03:40] <warrior> a good electronic channel?
[03:40] <mneptok> Joker_-_: did you even look at dd?
[03:40] <halberd> are we on the same page?
[03:40] <warrior> in irc
[03:40] <halberd> I am thinking you are talking about running a TTY with screen, and then running X11 separately
[03:40] <mneptok> Debolaz: nifty!
[03:40] <halberd> NOT running a terminal as part of X11
[03:40] <Marfi> and i was gettign ready to answer him
[03:40] <Joker_-_> dd copys a whole disk to an other
[03:40] <Marfi> halberd, ah, ok. don't know how to paste it like that
[03:40] <haqe43> !msn
[03:40] <usser_> cens0red, if u want to copy it over to another disk connect it before you boot, that disk will probably be sdb
[03:40] <justin_> K i really didnt think I did. Im not the most experienced in linux, but working for it
[03:40] <mneptok> Joker_-_: no, dd creates a bit-perfect copy of one volume to stdout
[03:41] <Joker_-_> mneptok: I know it copies EVERYTHING, including MASTER BOOT RECORD. and THATS part of the problem as I will be using a software raid and I was using a single drive.
[03:41] <halberd> if everything is within X11 then I need a way to make some part of X11 act exactly like text mode, except for copy/paste
[03:41] <cens0red> ussr just copy it? That's all there is to it?
[03:41] <usser_> cens0red, so open a terminal and type sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[03:41] <cens0red> usser_  just copy it? That's all there is to it?
[03:41] <mneptok> Joker_-_: then it sounds like you want rsync
[03:41] <Joker_-_> mneptok: rsync will work around the kernel and all?
[03:41] <halberd> I don't want to just have a terminal window beside the gui stuff
[03:41] <usser_> cens0red, no u dont copy u use dd which byte by byte copying
[03:42] <usser_> cens0red, careful though only do dd when u absolutely certain which disk is which
[03:42] <mneptok> Joker_-_: rsync will sync what is on one drive (as presented by the filesystem) to what is on another.
[03:42] <Joker_-_> mneptok: right now I tryed a full system backup with something like that: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/var/run --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/var/cache/ /
[03:42] <Joker_-_> and it failed.
[03:43] <joanki123> test
[03:43] <Joker_-_> it failed because the kernel can't be the same AND grub has to know what to boot (I guess)
[03:44] <ubuntuchicka> does anyone know how to make the extra visual effects auto-enable upon startup
[03:44] <Joker_-_> mneptok: I did a full backup with the given command while chrooted to the old drive, then exited the chroot and unpacked the archive on the new /
[03:44] <WelshDragon> Has anyone had any experience with ubuntu on Gigabit uplinks? My problem is when transferring it always seems to be in bursts. Download at 40MB/s 1 second. The next second at 0KB/s, then the next second back up to 40MB/s and so on... Anyone have an idea as to why it does this and how to fix it?
[03:44] <Joker_-_> mneptok: to me, it sounds pretty much like what rsync would to
[03:44] <caveman26> anybody know how to make my philips stereo work thrugh the USB input? lsusb sees it, but my sound drivers dont, any fix for this?
[03:44] <mouseboyx> whats new in 8.10 ?
[03:44] <w4rd> anyone else notice the edgy package repositories aren't working?
[03:44] <w4rd> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[03:44] <cens0red> usser_ I have the linux main partition on my  master hd, and a files partition on the slave hd. What happens if I just swap the jumpers, so the slave is now the master and vice versa?
[03:44] <J-_> mneptok:  Thanks a lot :)
[03:45] <JakeMon> doesn't seam that there is a subversion 1.5 server/client in the default package list for ubuntu 8... anyone know how am i supposed to get 1.5? (trying to avoid compiling)
[03:45] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm getting the freeze problem EVEn after turning on the flags in the installer.
[03:46] <mouseboyx> PassionFRUI7E, that sucks is it the 32bit version?
[03:46] <PassionFRUI7E> I think thats the 64
[03:46] <jrib> !info subversion hardy-backports | JakeMon
[03:46] <PassionFRUI7E> But I run 64
[03:46] <jrib> !backports > JakeMon
[03:46] <PassionFRUI7E> Okay here's what I did.
[03:47] <PassionFRUI7E> I burnt the cd, it fires up
[03:47] <usser_> cens0red, i dont understand
[03:47] <usser_> cens0red, what filesystem files partition is formatted in?
[03:47] <usser_> cens0red, is it connected to your system right now?
[03:47] <usser_> cens0red, is your linux / partition smaller than files so that copy of it can fit in files partition
[03:47] <FloodBot1> usser_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <PassionFRUI7E> i click the real install option, then it freezes for 3-4 seconds then i get control back
[03:47] <PassionFRUI7E> I clicked the flags, no change, i typed them in, no change
[03:47] <mouseboyx> Probably some error in trying to load the kernel, you said your system was very new?
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> I bought it 29 days ago
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> HP DV7-1130US
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Very new brand
[03:48] <haqe43> Is it possible for me to create an msn account on linux?
[03:48] <mouseboyx> Yeah, probably, not going to work if the chipset is very new, Try an older system or wait until yours is older
[03:48] <cens0red> usser_ I have the / partition on disk sda, and a heap of files on sdb. I want to swap the jumpers around, so that the slave HD is now the master. Will I be able to easily change grub, so that linux now boots from sdb?
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Sigh...
[03:48] <runman> PassionFRUI7E: did you check the download with checksums to verify
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Nope
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> But I burnt 3 isos
[03:48] <PassionFRUI7E> All seperately down loaded
[03:48] <runman> did you try burning iso at slow speed.
[03:49] <PassionFRUI7E> I tried i think 2 variable and 1 in the middle of the max
[03:49] <runman> try unetbootin and boot from usb
[03:49] <PassionFRUI7E> It looked complicated id probably screw that up too...
[03:49] <runman> no, very easy, can be done from windows or linux.
[03:50] <usser_> cens0red, you will probably have to run grub-install to install grub on your former slave hdd and change devices.map to point to your former master which will become sdb
[03:50] <PassionFRUI7E> Oh unetbootin is the simple one, I read the manual
[03:50] <PassionFRUI7E> K, I'll go find my flash drive.
[03:50] <runman> just run utility, select which distro you want to try and select usb drive
[03:52] <caveman26> I have a Philips stereo with usb input, how do I set that up? need it for a temporary fix until I fix my audio jack. the stereo is supposed to function as USB speakers but it doesnt show up in my mixer.  howerver it shows up as "philips" when i run lsusb. plz help
[03:54] <scribawf> I'm playing with another distro of Linux on laptop and need advice how to remove ubuntu and use the other (DreamLinux) suggestions?
[03:54] <halberd> if you want to get rid of ubuntu entirely you could just install dreamlinux over it
[03:54] <usser_> scribawf, remove with all the data?
[03:55] <halberd> delete the partitions on which you have ubuntu installed and use the free space to install dreamlinux
[03:55] <scribawf> uh will back up my evolution data
[03:55] <usser_> scribawf, if u have separate /home partition u can just format your / and install dreamlinux on it all your settings will be saved
[03:55] <scribawf> was thinking of just clearing partition  - that work?
[03:56] <Chaotic_Descent> how do I find the location of a file I just searched for? in the properties window, the full directory is too long, and it just cuts it off.
[03:56] <scribawf> ok wow flooded with info will look em ALL over
[03:56] <Chaotic_Descent> I have like 50 folders and I've been browsing trying to find which one this damned file is in and I can't find it.
[03:57] <haole> hey there... i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to build a package, but it fails telling me that it cannot find the references to XQueryFont, XFreeFontInfo, XFlush and others... what package am i missing?
[03:57] <scribawf> usser:  think u might have the right guidance what I want to do
[03:57] <Randal1> Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <banister`study> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=27a7e45e183dacc5331dd26ce72ecddf
[03:57] <Randal1> that error msg comes up when i run sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:58] <usser_> scribawf, yea. if u do have separate /home
[03:59] <scribawf> usser;  hmm, come to think of it - maybe I don't have separate /home
[03:59] <haole> doesn't anyone know the answer to my question? :(
[04:00] <dmoerner> haole, try using apt-file to search for package names
[04:00] <joncc> has any one ever used wifidog
[04:00] <Chaotic_Descent> I really liked how in Windows, when you'd bring up the properties of a file, if the directory was too long to fit in the window, you could select it and scroll over to find out the whole thing. Why is the location of my files a complete mystery to locate?
[04:01] <haole> dmoerner: i don't have apt-file installed... which package do i need?
[04:01] <rubifyed> I'd never seen a channel with so many people like this
[04:01] <usser_> scribawf, you can always back it up with sudo tar -czvf /home.tar.gz /home
[04:02] <usser_> scribawf, that will create a file home.tar.gz that contains all the files/folders from your /home
[04:02] <rubifyed> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=3b6a6f411f95489fd39af694f238c720
[04:02] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm back.  using that usb program.
[04:02] <caveman26> OMG... IRC overload.. 1308 People!!!
[04:02] <caveman26> lol
[04:02] <scribawf> usser; yup was just wonderin' if I should do sumting like that
[04:02] <IndyGunFreak> rubifyed: don't post silliness like that here
[04:03] <scribawf> usser:  Thank You much for your advice, will give it a shot!
[04:03] <usser_> scribawf, you can write it on dvd or save across the net so after you install dreamlinux you can restore it with cd / ; tar -xvf /home.tar.gz
[04:03] <banister`study> rubifyed: what pic are you up to?
[04:04] <scribawf> usser;  Again, Tnx much for complete guidance on this  Dreamlinux looks alot like uvuntu
[04:04] <usser_> scribawf, no problem
[04:04] <scribawf> usser; er Ununtu
[04:04] <scribawf> usser:  can't type either Ubuntu
[04:04] <Woody86> *Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Woody86> heh
[04:04] <scribawf> uh yup
[04:04] <Jacobbs> You nun too!
[04:05] <Randal2> ﻿Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the output that comes up when i type sudo modprobe nvidia. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:07] <rubifyed> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=3b6a6f411f95489fd39af694f238c720
[04:08] <mouseboyx> does anyone know how to get runescape working in ubuntu, i have java installed.
[04:08] <usser_> scribawf, :)
[04:08] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to create a script that will make it easier for me to edit my LiveDVD. The idea is to automatically set up a chroot and give me a terminal where I can edit away to my heart's content. And then when I'm done, it will clean up for me and close the chroot. I threw together a script with all the important parts left out... I don't know what to do next. It's at http://pastebin.com/m8e67e3c. Where do I go from here? Any and all help wou
[04:08] <[TiZ]> ld be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[04:08] <epoxy> omg hi
[04:08] <mneptok> oyg
[04:09] <epoxy> there is always a small city in here, heh
[04:10] <[TiZ]> Most of the city always sleeps, but yeah
[04:10] <mneptok> [TiZ]: only when we're tuning
[04:11] <mneptok> (+100 mneppoints to anyone that gets the reference) :)
[04:11] <[TiZ]> I wish I did. Sorry. D:
[04:11] <mneptok> [TiZ]: go rent "Dark City" (1998), thank me later. :)
[04:11] <mneptok> (basically, it's the movie that "The Matrix" tried to be a year later)
[04:12] <[TiZ]> Okay, I'll make sure to swing by blockbuster sometime
[04:14] <GodfatherofEire> Anyone know how I can set the power Daemon to NOT shut off after a period of user inactivity?
[04:14] <andar_> what's the default path for gdb?
[04:14] <e-frame> mneptok: ilke dark city
[04:14] <e-frame> mneptok: the long beach
[04:15] <gymr> guys is there any reason why this sound card wouldn't be working in 8.04?
[04:15] <gymr> 05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
[04:15] <ahtmly2k> how do you buzz in pidgin?
[04:15] <andar_> anyone know the default path to gdb?  kinda a silly question but could one of you guys paste the result of which gdb real fast? thanks
[04:16] <gymr> apparently it's supported but it won't work and I don't fully know what I'm doing
[04:16] <halberd> /usr/bin/gdb? but that's on os x
[04:17] <GodfatherofEire> Anyone know how to modify the the APMD to allow it to stay on after periods of inactivity instead of shutting down?
[04:17] <mneptok> e-frame: "Shell Beach" in English language versions :)
[04:17]  * mneptok stops being offtopic
[04:17] <andar_> thanks halberd.. i think that's supposed to be it.. i'm just trying to verify that indeed my school's server doesn't have it installed before i complain to the admin again.. ;D
[04:18] <aRk4> hi all, i need a help
[04:19] <Flannel> !ask | aRk4
[04:19] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to create a script that will make it easier for me to edit my LiveDVD. The idea is to automatically set up a chroot and give me a terminal where I can edit away to my heart's content. And then when I'm done, it will clean up for me and close the chroot. I threw together a script with all the important parts left out... I don't know what to do next. It's at http://pastebin.com/m8e67e3c. Where do I go from here? Any and all help wou
[04:19] <[TiZ]> ld be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[04:23] <gymr> Can someone help me out with my soundcard?  it's an Ensoniq 5880 and should by all accounts work just fine.
[04:24] <warrior_> scusate un buon canale di elettronica? cosa mi consigli?
[04:24] <warrior_>  excused a good channel of electronics? what me councils?
[04:24] <warrior_> sorry
[04:24] <Hate_Eternal> I have a Dell with a Conexant 56k modem and I need to know what to download (drivers and programs) to make it work in Ubuntu.
[04:24] <jrib> !dialup | Hate_Eternal
[04:24] <jrib> Hate_Eternal: linuxant sells a driver for your modem
[04:25] <anonimo> hi, anyone here knows about webcams? i have a problem with mine, uvcvideo tells me it failed to query, and i have no clue where to go from here :S (lsusb says it's a Suyi Corp)
[04:25] <Hate_Eternal> Sells? As in "purchase"?
[04:25] <jrib> Hate_Eternal: yes.  The free one is limited to 14.4 iirc
[04:26] <ripps> !info bug-report
[04:26] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get some help with apmd?
[04:27] <Hate_Eternal> Dell has Ubuntu modem drivers on their site, but I don't know which ones to dl
[04:27] <jrib> Hate_Eternal: did you try asking them?
[04:29] <jrib> Hate_Eternal: seems like you can just find drivers for your laptop model
[04:29] <nalfonso> ???
[04:29] <Hate_Eternal> also, is a DNS server address really required to connect?
[04:30] <nalfonso> spanish???
[04:30] <epoxy> negative
[04:30] <redrebel> espanol
[04:30] <K_Dallas> Q: IS there a single package to install so the fonts in the browser etc become more acceptable? It is kind of annoying to go and customize each single font in each application manually. thanks (I recall that a while ago there was a package to download under Debian which offered most of microsoft fonts and that it made browsing much easier) thanks
[04:30] <epoxy> apt-get search font   ??
[04:31] <epoxy> ** apt-cache
[04:31] <smm289> If I select Allow Remote System Administrator Login in the Login settings, does this mean that If I reboot the system from a RDP I will be able to log back into that system from a Remote Desktop
[04:31] <jrib> K_Dallas: msttcorefonts, but I browse fine without them...
[04:31] <redrebel> yeah, what is the best way to search for packages in command line?
[04:31] <FreshUbuntuNoob> redrebel, sudo aptitude search "packagename"
[04:31] <jrib> !apt > redrebel
[04:31] <redrebel> i use aptitude search <package-name>
[04:32] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to create a script that will make it easier for me to edit my LiveDVD. The idea is to automatically set up a chroot and give me a terminal where I can edit away to my heart's content. And then when I'm done, it will clean up for me and close the chroot. I threw together a script with all the important parts left out... I don't know what to do next. It's at http://pastebin.com/m8e67e3c. Where do I go from here? Any and all help wou
[04:32] <bullgard4> Where does the name 'term' come from the file /var/log/apt/term.log?
[04:32] <[TiZ]> ld be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[04:32] <nalfonso> apt-get update and then apt-cache search
[04:32] <Hate_Eternal> Do you have to fill in the DNS fields to connect?
[04:32] <nalfonso> or aptitude
[04:32] <Mr_Fixit> i'm trying to find a usb external drive on my server... i'm not sure where to look though
[04:32] <gymr> my sound isn't working and dmesg keeps returning [   43.978099] ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-generic/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ens1370.c:527: wait source ready timeout what does this mean?
[04:32] <K_Dallas> jrib: thanks. epoxy I know there are many different packages offering so many free typess but frankly most of them are either very application specific or not that great, imo
[04:33] <bonez45> where could I get help on setting up and configuring Ubuntu server edition?
[04:33]  * epoxy sighs
[04:33] <jrib> Hate_Eternal: you have to be more specific.  It would probably help if you tell us where you are connecting to and in what program
[04:33] <K_Dallas> jrib: do you keep the default fonts for firefox?
[04:33] <owen1> i mistakenly deleted a folder using rm. is there a recycle bin when using a teminal?
[04:33] <jrib> bonez45: #ubuntu-server, but here is fine too
[04:33] <jrib> owen1: no
[04:33] <jrib> !recover | owen1
[04:33] <K_Dallas> owen1: sorry, nope
[04:34] <ech0dish> anyone know of a keylogger for ubuntu, i want to monitor my children's activities online
[04:34] <[TiZ]> No shell scripting gurus in here? At all?
[04:34] <ech0dish> i'd try #debian
[04:34] <epoxy> [TiZ], try #bash.
[04:34] <ech0dish> better support there for advanced stuff
[04:34] <Randal2> k, so when i go into system >Administration >Hardware drivers and enable my video card Ubuntu always tells me when I reboot it that it can't detect my video card and has to start in low-graphics mode. is there a solution to fix this? (that isn't ENVY, since i tried it already)
[04:34] <GodfatherofEire> I need some help with APMD
[04:34] <K_Dallas> ech0dish: if you find one, use it but have you considered danguardian?
[04:34] <owen1> i see lost+found folder on my usb-drive. what is this?
[04:34] <[TiZ]> They have a #bash? I'll go there.
[04:34] <smm289> If I Select "Allow Remote System Administrator Login" under the Login Windows Preferences, does that mean that if I am connected to that system by remote desktop and I reboot the system I will be able to log back in by using the Remote Desktop?
[04:34] <ech0dish> no i don't know what danguardian is
[04:35] <ech0dish> i'
[04:35] <Mattix> salve
[04:35] <epoxy> smm289, dont see why not?
[04:35] <ech0dish> i'd like it to take screenshots every so often also if possible
[04:35] <jrib> owen1: it's for the filesystem (fsck may put files there), you can ignore it but leave it be
[04:35] <ech0dish> and log what websites they go to, and if possible monitor pidgin
[04:35] <epoxy> throw up ettercap and sniff their passwords
[04:35] <Mr_Fixit> ech0dish, sure you aren't trying to monitor your wife?
[04:35]  * epoxy grins
[04:35] <ech0dish> no...
[04:36] <Doc8404> whats the command to check ur partition type because im hoping its not ext3 i heard you cant defrag it
[04:36] <ech0dish> and even if i was what difference would that make?
[04:36] <odiv> Hey, uh. How do I map a directory to another? I tried putting it in fstab, but that doesn't work.
[04:36] <ech0dish> if i own the equipment i am putting it on i am doing nothing illegal..
[04:36] <K_Dallas> Doc8404: fdisk -l
[04:36] <jrib> Doc8404: it's not that you *can't* defrag, it's that you don't need to.
[04:36] <Mr_Fixit> Doc8404, ext3 doesn't need to be defragged
[04:36] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Doc8404, ext3 auto defrags itself, you don't have to
[04:36] <ech0dish> i have 2 kids and i wont allow them to use windows
[04:36] <smm289> epoxy: Do you know this for sure, I would like to reboot or at least log out log back into the remote system but if It doesn't work I wont be able to access it until Saturday night when I physically go to the computer
[04:36] <ech0dish> i just want to watch them
[04:36] <ech0dish> will look into danguardian
[04:37] <bonez45> jrib: ok.. I just installed the server edition on a box... I want it to become my email server and print server, among other things... I guess my first question, is how do I configure it..
[04:37] <Mr_Fixit> smm289, i log into my system as admin frequently to restart
[04:37] <ech0dish> if anyone has any other suggestions let me know though
[04:37] <windowshasyou> ech0dish: Seconded on the windows ban
[04:37] <smm289> Mr_Fixit: Do you log in to that system from a remote location?
[04:37] <jrib> bonez45: I meant to ask the channel
[04:37] <Mr_Fixit> always smm289
[04:37] <ech0dish> i don't want my kids to grow up stupid
[04:37] <Doc8404> permission denied why
[04:37] <smm289> I guess I should probably try in on my LAN before I try it on my WAN system
[04:37] <Woody86> I just installed  xchat-gnome, but it's not working. When I start the program it will display the bar on the taskbar saying "Starting Xchat-Gnome" but then doesn't open :(
[04:37] <LF|Irssi_> ech0dish: you could try a packet sniffer like wireshark
[04:38] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Doc8404, you need to sudo that, sudo fdisk -l
[04:38] <jrib> bonez45: here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[04:38] <K_Dallas> windowshasyou: it is almost impossible to ban them from windows. many of applications they need for schools are only for windows and some does nto work with wine or in vm
[04:38] <Mr_Fixit> Woody86, use just plain xchat
[04:38] <ech0dish> wireshark for keylogging?
[04:38] <LF|Irssi_> ech0dish: it montiors all network activity
[04:38] <Mr_Fixit> Woody86, it's better supported and has more functionality
[04:38] <smm289> I tried it once on my LAN and after I logged out of the system during the Remote session I was unable to make a connection until I physically logged back into the computer, but I did not have this option checked
[04:38] <FreshUbuntuNoob> ech0dish, http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+parental+control&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[04:38] <epoxy> LF|Irssi_, wouldn't you think that would be pretty pointless for such a broad spectrul?  dsniff/ettercap would be much better.
[04:38] <bonez45> where can I find documentation to help guide me in setting up my new 8.04 lts server edition installation? I am wanting to get printer server set up first..
[04:38] <Woody86> Mr_Fixit -  yeah, but I had the gnome version installed and working about a week ago, but now I tried installing it again, and it doesn't work?
[04:38] <ech0dish> hrm
[04:38] <nalfonso> ech0dish: use lkl linux keylogger
[04:38] <LF|Irssi_> epoxy: perhaps
[04:39] <ech0dish> aight thanks nal
[04:39] <peabody> hello everyone
[04:39] <jrib> bonez45: did you see the link I gave you?
[04:39] <Mr_Fixit> Woody86, i'd try the regular xchat version
[04:39] <odiv> so, anyway to map a dir to another one?
[04:39] <Doc8404> its not telling me the partition type
[04:39] <peabody> I would like to know if someone could help me with a networking ad-hoc issue
[04:39] <Doc8404> FreshUbuntuNoob its jus telling me size not partition type
[04:39] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Doc8404, could you pastebin?
[04:40] <jrib> Doc8404: what partition?  Is it mounted at the moment?
[04:40] <Doc8404> that what i need to know
[04:40] <Randal2> ﻿k, so when i go into system >Administration >Hardware drivers and enable my video card Ubuntu always tells me when I reboot it that it can't detect my video card and has to start in low-graphics mode. is there a solution to fix this? (that isn't ENVY, since i tried it already)
[04:40] <smm289> DOC8404: G-parted should tell you the partition type
[04:40] <smm289> just my two cents
[04:40] <rsukumar> hey all, the battery info in ubuntu is wrong for my laptop though i charge it for long time
[04:40] <rsukumar> how to fix this issue?
[04:40] <PassionFRUI7E> I finally got ubuntu to install!!
[04:40] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Randal2, Just a quick question, are you trying all of this while your envy is installed?
[04:41] <Doc8404> http://pastebin.ca/1235357
[04:41] <GodfatherofEire> Is there anyone here who could help me with my issue with APMD?
[04:41] <nalfonso> Doc8404: use fdisk /dev/xxx and them type m to options to see all config of partitions
[04:41] <Doc8404> im trying to figure out why my system is lagging at only 20% cpu use and 28% ram use
[04:41] <andar_> anyone have any idea why it takes two tries to enter the password for my account on my home server (running ubuntu)?
[04:41] <Randal2> fresh: no, i uninstalled envy and it still did the same thing
[04:41] <smm289> type-o?
[04:41] <bonez45> jrib: yes, thanks. checking it out now..
[04:42] <andar_> no type-o, I'm an immaculate typist
[04:42] <andar_> i've seen it happen before on macs at work, but never figured out what causes it
[04:42] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Doc8404, Wow, pastebin is dead for me :s
[04:42] <ech0dish> anyone know of a keylogger that supports ftp?
[04:42] <andar_> trying to steal blizzard's filez?
[04:42] <peabody> I would like to know if someone could help me with setting up an ad-hoc network
[04:42] <ech0dish> or even email...
[04:43] <Doc8404> can i reconfig into ext3?
[04:44] <[o> ubuntu rocks. finally noobs can use linux
[04:44] <[o> :)
[04:44] <nalfonso> Doc8404: iam oficial support vmware latinamerica can i help u?
[04:44] <malubankudi> can i burn an iso with data already on the cd-r will it boot properly?
[04:45] <[o> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=6d7639f03d376244b8b57b439b8a555e
[04:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Is there any way to transfer drivers onto my linux drive in windows?
[04:45] <Randal2> ﻿k, so when i go into system >Administration >Hardware drivers and enable my video card Ubuntu always tells me when I reboot it that it can't detect my video card and has to start in low-graphics mode. is there a solution to fix this? (that isn't ENVY, since i tried it already)
[04:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Since I need to get my wireless internet driver to work
[04:45] <Doc8404> yeah nalfonso... my linux is lagging after i turned my comp on just now... its retarded im trying to figure out if im in ext 3 but linux doesnt tell me the ext only the partiton size
[04:46] <Woody86> Woody86_
[04:46] <peabody> I would like to know if someone could help me with setting up an ad-hoc network... can anyone help?
[04:46] <knoppix> what do you mean with ad-hoc?
[04:46] <knoppix> a let's just do it network?
[04:47] <peabody> this desktop has both ethernet and wireless.... I am attempting to setup the wireless to transmit the ethernet connection to my laptop
[04:47] <knoppix> peabody!!!?
[04:47] <Woody86_> is there any way to stop Xchat from displaying who logs in and out?
[04:47] <nalfonso> Doc8404: Linux in VM?? or esx S.O?
[04:47] <Flannel> Woody86_: right click the channel tab, and turn it off
[04:48] <Woody86_> Flannel, ok thanks :D
[04:48] <knoppix> yes Woody86_
[04:48] <knoppix> it is in preferences user list
[04:48] <knoppix> but it doesn't work
[04:48] <Gobuntu> hello everyone
[04:48] <Doc8404> take a look
[04:49] <knoppix> we're all supposed to be dead already!!
[04:49] <Doc8404> http://pastebin.ca/1235361
[04:49] <peabody> ...
[04:49] <Gobuntu> can you give me a good  link  in fedora
[04:49] <Flannel> Gobuntu: What?
[04:49] <knoppix> it is true that linux users form some sort of army, no?
[04:50] <Gobuntu> Fedora
[04:50] <peabody> it is true.
[04:50] <Gobuntu> flannel
[04:50] <Flannel> knoppix: Please stay on topic, or try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:50] <Flannel> Gobuntu: This is #ubuntu, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:50] <idefix> who is knoppix?
[04:51] <K_Dallas> Q: In prior to 8.04 version, I used to change my display in xorg.config but in 8.04 and 8.10 there is barely anything there. How do I manipulate video card's resolution, etc? Thanks
[04:51] <nalfonso> Doc8404: ok.. the partition is vmfs??
[04:51] <Doc8404> i dont know... it says invalid partition
[04:51] <peabody> idefix, I have tried the networking manager and to use the terminal... but as I am not well parsed in linux, I got lost on how to configure what I needed.
[04:52] <Doc8404> doesnt contain a valid partiton table?
[04:52] <idefix> peabody are there a lot of differences between ubuntu and knoppix?
[04:52] <peabody> what?
[04:52] <Flannel> idefix: Please stay on topic.
[04:52] <mouseboyx>  idefix they use the same kernel, just have differnet interfaces and package managers
[04:53] <idefix> and american vs. german
[04:53] <nalfonso> to resolve rewrite partition u know? to fdisk and EXpert mode x
[04:53] <peabody> ok.
[04:53] <peabody> well... whom can really help?
[04:53] <halberd> peabody i had to configure wireless today and basically you have to look at /etc/network/interfaces, ifconfig, iwconfig, ifup, ifdown, and iwlist
[04:54] <Flannel> !ics | peabody
[04:54] <nalfonso> Doc8404: i guide to... pvt?
[04:54] <peabody> lemme see what those say...
[04:54] <Doc8404> i basically need to i guess, fix it. i need to some how partition it ext3 without loosing the information
[04:54] <Doc8404> sure
[04:55] <bullgard4> Where does the name 'term' come from the file /var/log/apt/term.log?
[04:55] <peabody> ubottu... seems like this is exactly what i am looking for.  If not, I shall return. Thanks in advance.
[04:55] <nalfonso> Doc8404: if u ESX is install and create volumes them in vmfs not ext3
[04:55] <Doc8404> ESX???
[04:56] <Randal2> when intrepid is released will i have to reinstall my video card again? (it's not working right now btw)_
[04:56] <nalfonso> vmware esx
[04:56] <Doc8404> i dont know vmware esx...
[04:56] <central> hello i have a little problem with clamtk when i run it as root it give ma this message: unrecognized option `--unrar=/usr/bin/unrar'
[04:57] <nalfonso> the partition contain date? if now create again
[04:57] <nalfonso> data
[04:58] <Doc8404> nalfonso i dont understand what your saying?
[04:58] <Androidz> ok, I installed openssh-server but I amnot sure if I have to create a user and password or what. and also, how to ssh into my comp thanks
[04:59] <Flannel> Androidz: Your users and passwords are the same as the ones you log in with anywhere else.
[04:59] <kunwon1> Doc8404, he's saying recreate your partition if it doesn't contain data you need
[04:59] <Androidz> Flannel, ok thanks, also, is there any specific default port?
[04:59] <Doc8404> awww crap... lol
[05:00] <Flannel> Androidz: default port is 22, but your SSH clients will know that and default to that.
[05:00] <Doc8404> is there a way, to use the freespace to do that... and then transfer this onto that partition, log on under it and clear this into the new partition
[05:00] <Androidz> Flannel, thank so much Flannel it works :)
[05:01] <Doc8404> my harddrive is 89% free space. can i partition say 85% of it ext3. then all of this onto it. after that when im on the 85% i clear this 15% into the new partition
[05:02] <nalfonso> Doc8404:  try this repair partition and no delete data: fdisk /dev/sdaX, n, p, 1, enter, enter, them x, b, 1, 128, w
[05:02] <Doc8404> is each comma a new command or copy paste nalfonso?
[05:02] <idefix> peabody, how's that network coming along?
[05:03] <nalfonso> no "," separete line per line
[05:03] <kunwon1> Doc8404, fdisk /dev/sda0 for example, will open fdisk, an interactive program. From there, the remaining commands are fdisk shortcut keys.
[05:03] <nalfonso> yes thaks kunwon1
[05:03] <kunwon1> my pleasure :)
[05:03] <telexicon> Anybody know of a solution for mounting cifs share home directories on login? I'm trying to integrate our ubuntu desktops with active directory, but I need a way to have it mount their 'Home Directory' as set in active directory to their home on the local linux box
[05:03] <Doc8404> hmm
[05:03] <Doc8404> ok ill brb
[05:05] <Doc8404> nalfonso it says failed
[05:06] <nalfonso> any errors?}
[05:06] <peabody> haha
[05:06] <Doc8404> error 22 invalid arguement kernal uses old table table will be used at next reboot syncing disks
[05:06] <peabody> I had no network for a second there
[05:07] <banister`study> LOL check out this hhaaha http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=27a7e45e183dacc5331dd26ce72ecddf
[05:07] <Doc8404> Flannel???? i didnt see him type anything????
[05:08] <nalfonso> Doc8404: Change the partition with command letter "t" in fdisk
[05:08] <Flannel> Doc8404: He did
[05:08] <HoNgOuRu> I'm trying to install flasplayer, but nspluginwrapper says this error.... nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin
[05:08] <HoNgOuRu> how can I fix this?
[05:09] <Doc8404> ok so sudo fdisk /dev/sda1 , t
[05:09] <nalfonso> sudo fdisk /dev/sda1 enter and them the argument
[05:09] <Doc8404> nalfonso do you happen to know the code for ext3?
[05:10] <dmoerner> !noipv6
[05:10] <nalfonso> 83
[05:10] <supertanker> I cannot seem to log into my MSN accounts with Pidgin. Is it disabled or something by default in ubuntu 8.04?
[05:11] <telexicon> supertanker, msn was down the other day
[05:11] <pajamian> supertanker: nope, works fine for me.
[05:11] <telexicon> i dont know if its down now, let me test
[05:11] <supertanker> Right now, I mean.
[05:11] <Woody86> I'm checking my settings, can someone say my name in like 5 secs? Thank you :)
[05:11] <ocioso> locos
[05:11] <Doc8404> ok now do that whole long thing again? code 83 says linux. im guessing linux is ext3 then?
[05:11] <pajamian> I'm logged into msn now, it's working
[05:11] <Flannel> Woody86: this isn't really the best channel for that.
[05:11] <peabody> ubottu, how can i check to see if the network card is broadcasting?
[05:11] <supertanker> pajamian: It says that I can't log in because my passowrd is incorrect, but I know it works because I logged in with Fedora few minutes ago.
[05:11] <supertanker> a few*
[05:12] <nalfonso> the default of Linux id ext3
[05:12] <peabody> oh
[05:12] <pajamian> supertanker: is this a new ubuntu install?
[05:12] <peabody> lol
[05:12] <Woody86> Flannel- sorry about that, but they were being mean in #ubuntu-offtopic, and wouldn't say my name :(
[05:12] <Doc8404> so nalfonso now do that whole thing again?
[05:12] <Doc8404> the : fdisk /dev/sdaX, n, p, 1, enter, enter, them x, b, 1, 128, w
[05:12] <Woody86> Flannel- But thank you
[05:12] <nalfonso> yes try again
[05:12] <supertanker> pajamian: Yep, fresh out of the box.
[05:12] <supertanker> Literally.
[05:13] <Doc8404> partition 1 is already defined delete it first
[05:13] <nalfonso> Doc8404: remember save changes to "w"
[05:13] <supertanker> pajamian: I've also had problems with Shockwave related webchat, but someone said it was the 64-bit version of SWF causing trouble.
[05:13] <pajamian> supertanker: two things to do then.  (1) make sure that all the updates have been run, it's possible that Pidgin has an update to fix an MSN problem since the ubuntu release ...
[05:13] <Flannel> supertanker: there is no shockwave for Linux, only flash.
[05:13] <Doc8404> nalfonso it says partiton 1 is already defined
[05:13] <pajamian> supertanker: and (2) make sure you didn't mistype your account info.
[05:14] <supertanker> ALl right, I'll try again
[05:14] <pajamian> supertanker: ahhhh, it could be 64 bit, I run 32 bit ubuntu so I can't say for sure.
[05:14] <ziroday> supertanker: you can also try enabling the Use HTTP Method under the Advanced tab
[05:14] <bullgard4> Where does the name 'term' come from the file /var/log/apt/term.log?mf
[05:14] <nalfonso> Doc8404: WTF, delete and create this partition
[05:14] <pajamian> anyone successfully logged into msn with 64 bit pidgin right now?
[05:14] <cakey> et
[05:14] <cakey> izon.net
[05:14] <cakey> wtf
[05:14] <supertanker> O.o
[05:15] <Doc8404> nalfonso lol... delete and create?
[05:15] <peabody> that didnt work
[05:15] <peabody> booo
[05:15] <nalfonso> yeah
[05:15] <supertanker> ziroday: Now it says, "Unable to Authenticate: .net messenger service"
[05:15] <ziroday> supertanker: and you're sure you username and password is correct?
[05:15] <peabody> idefix, you still willing to help?
[05:16] <Doc8404> failed with error 22 lol
[05:16] <supertanker> Fairly certain
[05:16] <pajamian> supertanker: be 100% certain
[05:16] <supertanker> pajamian: Ah, I logged into the windows messenger site, and it said my account was locked from too many incorrect tries
[05:17] <pajamian> supertanker: heh, that would do it.
[05:17] <t1n0m3n> how do I make MTU setting permanent?
[05:17] <nalfonso> Doc8404: move to trash your S.O... rm -Rf /... lol
[05:17] <gaintsura> will there be full x64 support on intrepid?
[05:17] <jabagawee> gaintsura, define "full"
[05:17] <Doc8404> nalfonso WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. : The kernel still uses the old table. :The new table will be used at the next reboot.:Syncing disks.
[05:18] <gaintsura> like (with the exception of some problem drivers) enough for almost any system to run the x64 of intrepid without much limitation in any direction
[05:18] <Flannel> nalfonso: please don't joke around with that command.
[05:18] <Doc8404> nalfonso keep in mind... this is my laptop its a single HD laptop....
[05:18] <nalfonso> sorry Flannel
[05:18] <Doonzy> hey guys if im using Az how do i make it so what ever file it downloads is both readable and writeable
[05:19] <warrior_> join/ #ubuntu-chat
[05:19] <Flannel> warrior_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <gaintsura> jabagawee: (forgot to mention your name on my response, read up a bit, please)
[05:20] <peabody> how can i check to see if the network card is broadcasting on my adhoc network?
[05:20] <jabagawee> truthfully, gaintsura, we're at that level now
[05:20] <nalfonso> Doc8404: i think....
[05:20] <jabagawee> with the slight exception of needing to run firefox in 32bit for flash
[05:20] <jabagawee> !64bit
[05:20] <warrior_> tank you Flannel
[05:21] <gaintsura> jabagawee: hm, and I imagine thats being fixed, what about intensive things like compiz/emerald/cairo-dock and virtualbox?
[05:21] <jabagawee> 64bit does not mean that intensive tasks don't work well. where'd that misconception come from?
[05:21] <Doc8404> lol
[05:22] <gaintsura> appologies, I'm not all here right now
[05:22] <Doc8404> nalfonso its jacked up lol
[05:22] <freetown> hello all...how do you get hardyheron to install on a mirror?
[05:22] <gaintsura> I meant are those programs supported in x64? I also had problems with madwifi/ndiswrapper on my system in x64 heron, which is my main reason for asking
[05:22] <Doc8404> nalfonso do you think... i have the old hd on this thing on external casing. i can copy this like a mirror image to it. boot from the ext. use that to format and partiton this hd? and the mirror it back?
[05:23] <jabagawee> gaintsura, yeah, ndiswrapper is definitely not 64bit
[05:24] <freetown> is there an installer that supports raid and lvm for 8.04?
[05:24] <salmon> problem: so i have a ubuntu studio disc which i pulled some programs from, but now that i did that anytime i try and get something from synapatic manager or add/remove programs it wants me to insert the disc. it won't let me get anything. i tried putting the disc in and it tells me it's not in. can anyone help me??
[05:24] <jabagawee> its not really ubuntu's fault. it's a side effect of what ndiswrapper does, and unless it undergoes a complete rewrite, that problem will persis forever
[05:24] <gaintsura> jabagawee: any madwifi problems?
[05:24] <jabagawee> salmon, change your sources.list
[05:24] <jabagawee> gaintsura, not sure, lemme check
[05:24] <gaintsura> madwifi is my main priority
[05:24] <jabagawee> but first, lets ask ubottu
[05:24] <gaintsura> thanks jabagawee
[05:24] <ziroday> salmon: go to System > Administration > Software Sources and untick the box with the cd rom listed
[05:24] <jabagawee> !madwifi
[05:24] <jabagawee> nope, to google!
[05:25] <salmon> thank you both so simple i didn't even think about it
[05:25] <nalfonso> Doc8404: yes try this.... dont remember ir u v repair grub..
[05:25] <axisys> how to convert dvd to mp4 to use in iphone ?
[05:25] <Mr_Fixit> how do i download a zip from CLI?
[05:25] <ziroday> Mr_Fixit: download or unzip it?
[05:25] <axisys> Mr_Fixit: wget
[05:25] <jabagawee> Mr_Fixit, wget
[05:25] <Doc8404> nalfonso i duno it
[05:26] <bullgard4> Where does the name 'term' come from in the filename /var/log/apt/term.log?
[05:26] <ziroday> axisys: not sure of the exact procedure but I imagine you would have to use a dvd ripper like dvd::rip or acidrip
[05:26] <Mr_Fixit> thanks
[05:26] <lobaman> hello. can i install open office 3.0 to my ubuntu 7.10?  does anyone tried it?
[05:26] <jabagawee> lobaman, of course you can
[05:26] <jabagawee> gaintsura, ask #madwifi
[05:26] <_786soul> close
[05:27] <lobaman> i dont need to upgrade my ubuntu?
[05:27] <idefix> can you leave messages? you can't because as soon as you log off the user's not there with a /whois command...
[05:27] <jabagawee> lobaman, nope
[05:27] <Doc8404> ok guys is thier anyway to repair a HD partition to ext3 without loosing all the data on it?
[05:27] <lobaman> yes! this is so great
[05:27] <salmon> jabagwee, and ziroday thank you again. i love irc
[05:27] <lobaman> thanks alot
[05:27] <gaintsura> will do
[05:27] <jabagawee> gaintsura, unfortunately, they seem unresponsive
[05:28] <StevenJosway> Hi can anyone help me fix this in mySql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) ?
[05:28] <gaintsura> jabagawee: =\
[05:28] <freetown> StevenJosway, is mysql running?
[05:28] <jabagawee> gaintsura, http://madwifi.org/wiki/Architecture#x86_64
[05:28] <axisys> ziroday: how about avidemux ?
[05:28] <gaintsura> jabagawee: Sadly, because of the lack of x64 support on either of them at the time I installed ubuntu, I've been stuck at 32bit
[05:28] <StevenJosway> I dont even know
[05:28] <jabagawee> "updated May 15, 2006
[05:28] <jabagawee> MadWifi compiles and runs fine on x86_64 systems."
[05:28] <freetown> StevenJosway, pstree
[05:28] <Mr_Fixit> umm.. where does wget store the file?
[05:28] <gaintsura> O.o
[05:28] <ziroday> axisys: avidemux converts videos, it cant rip them off a dvd
[05:28] <gaintsura> jabagawee: interesting, it gave me hell
[05:29] <jabagawee> Mr_Fixit, in the current working directory
[05:29] <jabagawee> gaintsura, when did you last check?
[05:29] <StevenJosway> no its not
[05:29] <axisys> ziroday: oh ok
[05:29] <Mr_Fixit> makes sense..
[05:29] <freetown> StevenJosway, i guess you need to start it
[05:29] <StevenJosway> Well I have its being stupid
[05:29] <gaintsura> jabagawee: I'd have to say about 7-8 months ago
[05:29] <freetown> StevenJosway, what do the logs say?
[05:29] <jabagawee> gaintsura, mm, no clue then
[05:29] <gaintsura> hmm
[05:29] <StevenJosway> Where are the logs located?
[05:30] <gaintsura> could've just been madwifi and hardy's version, dunno
[05:30] <StevenJosway>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[05:30] <gaintsura> StevenJosway: /var/log/mysql/
[05:30] <jabagawee> gaintsura, ask #ubuntu+1?
[05:30] <gaintsura> or /var/log/mysql*
[05:30]  * gaintsura nods
[05:30] <gaintsura> brb
[05:30] <StevenJosway> There are no logs :(
[05:31] <freetown> StevenJosway, maybe /var/log/messages?
[05:31]  * Woody86 is away: I'll brb, PM me or say my name
[05:31] <kc8pxy_> I'm trying to test a ltsp client. i want to use a vbox on the ltsp server. i've used vbox on a server before, but not on ubuntu. what i've done in the part, is create a tap, and bridge my real eth and my tap, bring the tap up, and zerro the real eth's ip, and dhcp the bridge.   how do i do something effectively the same in ubuntu, simply?
[05:31] <aflack> can someone tell me how to install wine latest version with 3dmark on ubuntu 8.04 with amd64 bit quad core?
[05:31]  * Woody86 is back (gone 00:00:23)
[05:31] <StevenJosway> Nope doesent exist
[05:31] <aflack> what doesnt?
[05:31] <freetown> StevenJosway, 'ls /var'
[05:32] <freetown> StevenJosway, is your var filesystem on another partition/disk?
[05:32] <StevenJosway> nope
[05:32] <StevenJosway> ive googled for hours and cant find a fix for the errror
[05:32] <kc8pxy_> aflack:  man, that's one case where you will see MAJOR improvement on anythign that runs  :)
[05:32] <StevenJosway> i hate my life
[05:33] <aflack> kc8pxy:so can you help me?
[05:33] <freetown> i guess ubuntu stuffs its system logs in some other file
[05:33] <kc8pxy_> aflack: you should be able to sudo apt-get install wine, i would think.
[05:33] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy: but with 3dmark?
[05:33] <kc8pxy_> aflack:  what is 3dmark?
[05:34] <freetown> StevenJosway, no file messages in /var/log?
[05:34] <freetown> is there a log dir in /var?
[05:34] <StevenJosway> Yes! oh its empth though
[05:35] <freetown> StevenJosway, is there a my.cnf in /etc?
[05:35] <kc8pxy_> aflack:  does wine install?
[05:35] <kc8pxy_> 3dmark is a windows app, yes?
[05:35] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy: well yes
[05:35] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy: no you can patch wine to run games much better
[05:35] <StevenJosway> nope
[05:35] <aflack> with 3dmark
[05:35] <cE_baEk_ajH> hhhhhhhhhhhuiy
[05:35] <aflack> need proof?
[05:36] <telexicon> anyone know of a way to mount cifs home dirs on login? (integrating ubuntu with active directory)
[05:36] <freetown> StevenJosway, is the mysql server installed at all?
[05:36] <kc8pxy_> aflack:  manual patching is IIRC, not a strongpoint of ubuntu. someone correct me if i'm wrong.(and back me up if i'm stating the truth).
[05:36] <StevenJosway> Yes it is
[05:36] <aflack> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMqZDlszFU&feature=related     -    awesome linux gaming, sorry for spam
[05:36] <StevenJosway> I have done sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[05:36] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: check iy
[05:36] <Flannel> aflack: A good place for that would be #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <kc8pxy_> iy?
[05:37] <bullgard4> Where does the name 'term' come from in the filename /var/log/apt/term.log?
[05:38] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: it
[05:38] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: should be kind of obvious... y is right next to t..
[05:38] <DR_K13> wut
[05:38] <crimsun> bullgard4: "terminal output"
[05:38] <kc8pxy_> soryy.. checking the youtube
[05:38] <freetown> StevenJosway, sorry pal, maybe the specifics of mysql server on ubuntu are too different from centos for me to help...i usually find a my.cnf file in /etc
[05:38] <bullgard4> crimsun: Ah! Thank you.
[05:39] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: see what i mean then
[05:39] <StevenJosway> Thanks for trying
[05:39] <StevenJosway> Like this error seems to be the unsolvable error
[05:39] <StevenJosway> I think im just going to format my hd's
[05:40] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: anyways i have a better question that sertiously need solving.. my sounds are suckish alot
[05:40] <gopp> hi any  one know how to send a linux cli command, e.g. uptime via AOL AIM, on a aim client on a cellphone and have it echo the result back to the phone
[05:40] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: they echo and are staticy and skip a hella lot to where it hurts your ears..
[05:41] <gopp> for example if I aim a aim client (i.e. bot on my ubuntu box), it eco (im me) back uptime results
[05:41] <gopp> is that possible
[05:41] <Flannel> gopp: Its entirely possible, yes.  But I don't think anything like that currently exists.
[05:42] <kc8pxy_>  aflack  is that not normal oblivion performance?
[05:42] <LuYu> how can one find out info about the screen on a laptop?  lshw only shows graphics controllers
[05:43] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: any game under wine usually sucks, and having oblivion at that under wine while recoding is pretty damn good
[05:43] <gopp> Flannel so in theory it is possible, but nothing exist yet okay Flannel thanks
[05:43] <gopp> Flannel what query should I use to google something like this
[05:43] <LuYu> is there a simple command that i can use to get the monitor and its specs?
[05:43] <gopp> Flannel what I did was query (i.e. search ) "how to interact with the command line via aol aim"..
[05:44] <kc8pxy_> aflack: under ubuntu, or under wine period?
[05:44] <aflack> ﻿kc8pxy_: uh wine under ubuntu?
[05:45] <kc8pxy_> aflack: aflack  yeah..   brb.
[05:45] <aflack> ok well can anyone help me with my sound...
[05:47] <aflack> ok
[05:47] <aflack> I'm going, you all have a good night.. or morning... or afternoon... or you get it. See ya
[05:50] <ubuntu_todd> Hi, how to add channels in other server. e.g rhythmbox @ irc.gimp.com?
[05:51] <lakitu> hi, i am making a persistent pendrive ubuntu, using 8.10. i want to migrate all my packages (but not my documents, etc) to the drive, how do i do this?
[05:54] <jeeves_Moss> what is the grep command to search the whole file system for a file?
[05:54] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?
[05:54] <bimberi> jeeves_Moss: locate foo
[05:54] <jeeves_Moss> thanks
[05:55] <lakitu> you don't have to call him a foo' just because he didn't know. ;)
[05:55] <gagamel> find / -name filename
[05:55] <kastner> I need to install apache 2.2.10 for PCI compliance, is compiling from source my only option?
[05:55] <bruenig> grep doesn't search for files, it searches inside files
[05:55] <bruenig> locate is typically faster than find, especially if your db is up to date
[05:55] <bimberi> lakitu: heh :)
[05:56] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[05:56] <rupe_> find / -depth -print | xargs grep "  "
[05:57] <jeeves_Moss> bimberi, so far, it's not finding it
[05:57] <kastner> and if I do compile apache 2.2.10, how do I make it as ubuntu-like as possible?
[05:57] <bimberi> jeeves_Moss: you can update the database used by locate with 'sudo updatedb'
[05:57] <Aquahallic> buddy just took the update to .24-21 and I need to recompile a driver for him.. when I do make && make install.. it's going into the old kernel headers... anywhere I can change that???
[05:57] <bimberi> (might take a while)
[05:57] <Flannel> kastner: Unless you can find a deb somewhere, yes.  Intrepid has 2.2.9
[05:57] <lakitu> if my kaspersky log is not in /var/log/kaspersky, anywhere else it may be?
[05:58] <bimberi> lakitu: use locate! :)
[05:58] <kastner> Flannel: this PCI compliance thing is _insane_, I have to use 2.2.10 :(
[05:58] <lakitu> bimberi, oh yeah =)
[05:58] <lakitu> prob is, i don't know what it will be called
[05:59] <jemark> sometimes my asx streaming in rhythmbox says that it can't playback... when i reboot, it might work again. strange problem
[05:59] <bimberi> ah, 'locate --psychic' then (if only)
[06:00] <gds_lumut> hy
[06:00] <lakitu> bimberi, well, i meant =) if i can find the directory, i can find the file
[06:01] <Joker_-_> Whats the log file containing the dmes already?
[06:01] <owen1> in the middle of installing firefox i get this: "the swap file or partition that was found in uswsup's configuration file is not active" any idea?
[06:01] <lakitu> bimberi, what is the wildcard symbol, in linux?
[06:01] <Joker_-_> I mean the file that contains the information on[OK] and [FAAIL]
[06:01] <Joker_-_> during boot
[06:01] <bimberi> lakitu: *
[06:02] <lakitu> bimberi, hm, didn't seem to work. maybe it was my query
[06:02] <bimberi> lakitu: you don't use it with locate though, it implies a wildcard search
[06:02] <Joker_-_> What file contains the information on services starting during boot (The[OK] and [FAIL])
[06:03] <lakitu> bimberi, kav*.log is what i want
[06:03] <Joker_-_> I saw a [FAIL] and I'd like to see whats up with that
[06:03] <bruenig> rupe_: or grep -R
[06:03] <bimberi> lakitu: locate kav | grep log
[06:04] <pajamian> Joker_-_: dmesg
[06:04] <rupe_> /var/log/messages
[06:04] <lakitu> bimberi, k
[06:04] <Joker_-_> pajamian: dmesg semms only to be the... /var/log/messages maybe, Ill check that
[06:04] <Joker_-_> seems to be just the same as dmesg
[06:05] <dhetha> alloooowww
[06:05] <owen1> in the middle of installing firefox i get this: "the swap file or partition that was found in uswsup's configuration file is not active" any idea?
[06:05] <jeeves_Moss> how do I do a more indepth scan of my system to find a file again?
[06:06] <Zelut> so I installed ubuntu-server and I've got like 100 listings for "consolekit" in my top output.  Is that normal?
[06:06] <Zelut> jeeves_Moss: the find or locate commands can find files pretty well.
[06:07] <jeeves_Moss> Zelut, I'm looking right @ the file, and locate and find says "no such file or directory"
[06:07] <After_Math> whats the easiest way to add wallpaper to the G1
[06:07] <Zelut> jeeves_Moss: the thing about locate is that it updates the index daily, so if you've created the file within the last few hours it won't be in that index yet.
[06:08] <Zelut> jeeves_Moss: you could run 'sudo updatedb', which will manually update the index and you should see it after that.
[06:08] <jeeves_Moss> Zelut, this file has been there for a few months
[06:08] <Joker_-_> How do I find what [FAIL]ed during boot ? (It goes so fast I couldnt see)
[06:09] <pajamian> Zelut: that's not out of the realm of normal for that process.  I wouldn't worry about it unless it's gobbling up a lot of resources.
[06:09] <Joker_-_> it's apparently not dmesg nor /var/log/messages
[06:09] <Zelut> Joker_-_: look at /var/log/dmesg - its boot time output.
[06:09] <Joker_-_> Zelut: heh, already done this but I dont see it.
[06:09] <Vantrax> Good afternoon from Australia #Ubuntu
[06:09] <Zelut> pajamian: its just hard to see anything else in top when thats taking up the whole page..
[06:10] <LF|Irssi_> Zelut: top | more
[06:11] <pajamian> Zelut: hrmmmm, well I have heard complaints about consolekit before.  From what I understand it is possible to disable it and shouldn't adversly affect the system.  Google for it for more info.
[06:11] <Zelut> pajamian: will do.
[06:11] <Zelut> what does consolekit even do anyway?
[06:11] <foo> I am on hardy. X resolution is borked. gnome crashes. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it never asks me for resolution, it just sets up keyboard and mouse. any ideas?
[06:11] <pajamian> Zelut: I forget, heh.
[06:11] <owen1> in the middle of installing firefox i get this: "the swap file or partition that was found in uswsup's configuration file is not active" any idea?
[06:12] <nnull> Zelut¬ shares your resources with the master kit.
[06:12] <nnull> lol no idea.. like to know myself..
[06:12] <nnull> as far as i knew it was badly coded, a multithreaded program which doesnt have master container so to speak
[06:13] <t1n0m3n> I want the firestarter applet to start automatically, however when I follow the instructions at "http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#reboot" I cannot get sudoers to allow /etc/sbin/firestarter to start up without a password
[06:13] <ml> hello... anybody using xubuntu beta?
[06:13] <nnull> ml¬ i bet a few ppl in #xubuntu are ;)
[06:13] <Doc8404> what would make firefox laggy. im only using 14% ram
[06:13] <ml> lol thxs
[06:13] <dmoerner> ml, go to #ubuntu+1 if you want to discuss intrepid
[06:14] <ml> thxs :)
[06:14] <waan> Is it a know problem for compiz to stop ubuntu from waking in suspend mode?
[06:14] <predator3631> hey command for distro upgrade is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d right?
[06:15] <nnull> waan¬ they were proclaimed to be fixed afaik... but ive had problems with it and have heard of others having some too, possibly fixable with a bit of looking into.
[06:15] <dmoerner> predator3631, update-manager -d, i think.
[06:15] <dmoerner> using gksu
[06:15] <Vantrax> waan, Its still a bit of a problem, I was hoping it was fixed in intrepid
[06:15] <pajamian> t1n0m3n: paste your sudoers file to the pastebin.
[06:16] <predator3631> thx
[06:16] <t1n0m3n> !pastebin
[06:16] <waan> nnull: Vantrax: Hopefully that's the case, I might try going back to metacity, although i'll miss my dock
[06:16] <HoNgOuRu> whats all this E: /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb: conflicting packages - not installing flashplugin-nonfree
[06:16] <Vantrax> waan, AWN?
[06:16] <waan> Vantrax: yeah
[06:16] <nnull> Vantrax¬ and im guessing your dreams were smashed? :s
[06:17] <t1n0m3n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61844/plain/
[06:17] <nnull> only thing i really use in compiz is the cube, i larv it so
[06:17] <mortello> newb here needing a little help - i'm reinstalling 8.04 and have a separate /home partition - i'm in the partition manager and selecting manual choosing the system install and mount point as "/" and another partition's mount point as /home, choosing to format the / but not the /home partition (since I don't want to lose anything), problem is, the installer keeps asking to set up a new user.
[06:17] <nnull> and screen saver cube plugin
[06:17] <waan> nnull: I just use avant and the workspace slider, cube is off
[06:17] <mortello> i was under the impression the installer would just see my home directory and carry on...
[06:17] <nnull> + wobbly windows and transparency of course
[06:17] <Boohbah> mortello: so setup a new user and delete it later
[06:18] <waan> nnull: that too
[06:18] <nnull> i had some issues with transparency without compiz
[06:18] <mochabcha> is there a way to put desktop icon labels to the left or right of icons
[06:18] <nnull> especially with the dock i had at the time
[06:18] <mortello> boohbah, thanks, so it IS leaving that untouched?
[06:18] <nnull> hopefully its been fixed
[06:18] <waan> nnull: is there a dock that functions the same as avn and doesn't require compiz
[06:19] <waan> nnull: I've used simdock but it's just not the same
[06:19] <nnull> whats that one.. umm
[06:19] <nnull> cairo-dock
[06:19] <mortello> ok, i'll try this, thanks again
[06:19] <ml> mortello just add a new with the same user name and it should work
[06:19] <ml> worked for me
[06:19] <nnull> but again i had problems with transparency without compiz using that
[06:19] <waan> nnull: Aslong as I can 'dock' programs in it
[06:19] <ml> *user
[06:19] <mortello> ok thanks
[06:20] <waan> nnull: I suppose I could always add a panel instead of awn
[06:20] <nnull> waan¬ cairo-dock is about as customizable as you'll find i would think..
[06:20] <ml> np lmk
[06:20] <waan> nnull: thanks i'll give that a og
[06:20] <nnull> waan¬ yea after trying all the fancy stuff i just built myself some decent gnome-panels :)
[06:21] <lakesou> i want to install ubuntu on my office PC but ubuntu upgrades too often.how do i keep up with the frequently released builds
[06:21] <nnull> waan¬ but if you find with cairo that transparency is simply black.. its the same problem i had.. which actually made me switch to compiz and ditch cairo heh..
[06:21] <mochabcha> is there a way to put desktop icon labels to the left or right of icons
[06:21] <lakesou> fresh install every time ubuntu has a new release?
[06:21] <waan> nnull: hmm ok I might try an autohide panel and see how that goes
[06:22] <waan> nnull: sleep is more important anyway
[06:22] <nnull> waan¬ you can edit some of the panel settings inside gconf-editor
[06:22] <waan> nnull: yeah it's probably the best option
[06:22] <szx0> I accidentally removed all the groups that my "special" (first) account was part of..... now I cannot perform sudo operations correctly, anything I can do with this other than throw it out the window?
[06:22] <nnull> waan¬ but i recommend backing up your /.gconf dir before any editting
[06:23] <nnull> waan¬ as for me it can be rather tempramental*
[06:23] <Slack> anyone here know the command to format a flash drive
[06:23] <t1n0m3n> OK it seems like I can get the firestarter to start up automatically now.  Now my issue is that is starts up too fast.  Is there a way to let it pause for 30 or so seconds until the wioreless interface it up and running?
[06:24] <waan> nnull: do you know the location for changing the autohide times>
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Slack: mkfs
[06:24] <MTecknology> Is it possible to have one ubuntu wiki page forward to another?
[06:24] <t1n0m3n> geez, my typing sucks tonight
[06:24] <nnull> waan¬
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Slack: Or you could use gparted
[06:24] <waan> nnull: I guess just apps/panel?
[06:24] <pajamian> t1n0m3n: yes, create a shell script with your commands and put "sleep 30" on a line to pause for 30 seconds.
[06:24] <nnull> waan¬ /apps/panel/toplevel
[06:24] <foo> I am on hardy. X resolution is borked. gnome crashes. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it never asks me for resolution, it just sets up keyboard and mouse. any ideas?
[06:24] <paul68> is there a specific channel for questions about dns and dhcp?
[06:25] <waan> nnull: thanks
[06:25] <t1n0m3n> ﻿pajamian: sweet, I will try, thanks
[06:25] <nnull> waan¬ id recommend hide_delay and unhide_delay both at "50"
[06:25] <pajamian> paul68: just ask your question.
[06:25] <nnull> waan¬ and autohide_szie 1
[06:25] <nnull> waan¬ some safe options just if you need them
[06:26] <lakesou> i want to install ubuntu on my office PC but ubuntu upgrades too often.how do i keep up with the frequently released builds, fresh installation everytime it's released?
[06:26] <szx0> I accidentally removed all the groups that my "special" (first) account was part of..... now I cannot perform sudo operations correctly, anything I can do with this other than throw it out the window?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> lakesou: Just upgrade
[06:26] <waan> nnull: hmm even if I use unhide_delay 01, it takes a while
[06:26] <pajamian> lakesou: you can just use the long term releases and only upgrade every 3 years or so.
[06:26] <Kattman> !perl
[06:26] <paul68> pajamian I work with bind and want to add the auto update between dns and dhcp on my server but don't know in wich files
[06:26] <szx0> I accidentally removed all the groups that my "special" (first) account was part of..... now I cannot perform sudo operations correctly, anything I can do with this other than throw it out the window?
[06:27] <lakesou> what's a long-term release?
[06:27] <nnull> waan¬ hmm dunno 50 is like very fast compared to the default for me anyway
[06:27] <paul68> pajamian: also where do I add the acl lists ?
[06:27] <node357> szx0, add yourself to the admin group then re-login
[06:27] <pajamian> paul68: ok, sorry, I don't know the answer to that one.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> szx0: You can fix it from single user mode ( the recovery mode option at boot )
[06:27] <nnull> waan¬ make sure enable animations is yes
[06:27] <paul68> pajamian: no problem
[06:27] <Kattman> How can I run a perl script?
[06:27] <waan> nnull: ahh its ok I set animation to fast, now it works great
[06:28] <pajamian> Kattman: ummmm, type in the scriptname ont he command line?
[06:28] <nnull> waan¬ cool
[06:28] <ikt> just messing around with ibex, does anyone else think it's 100% more stable than hardy was?
[06:28] <writing> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.15
[06:28] <lakesou> pajamian how long is a long term release?
[06:28] <Kattman> Thanks
[06:28] <paul68> !ibex
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Kattman: Make it executable then give the path to it at a terminal
[06:28] <szx0> node357, Thank you kind sir.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/user-setup/+bug/158952
[06:28] <szx0> Jordan_U, Thank you too kind sir.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/user-setup/+bug/158952
[06:28] <waan> nnull: that 1 pixel line still bugs me :P
[06:28] <writing> I put that in .bashrc, will that be executed everytime I run the shell?
[06:28] <waan> nnull: nothing you can do I guess
[06:29] <nnull> waan¬ lol yea i ended up changing my monitor settings slightly to remove them ;)
[06:29] <nnull> 100 or so vert pixels out, still like 614533 billion left or something heh
[06:30] <pajamian> lakesou: every couple years, I think.
[06:30] <Jordan_U> writing: Yes, though you probably want to use update-alternatives to set the java version to be used instead
[06:31] <pajamian> lakesou: the current LTR is 8.04 released in April of this year.  The previous one was 6.06 released in June of 2006
[06:31] <waan> nnull: it would be pretty awesome if you could set it to hide only when you have a fullscreen app running, like awn
[06:31] <t1n0m3n> ﻿pajamian: You the man.  The shell script to start firestarter (with the sleep 30) was just the ticket.  Now the firestarter script starts up and waits 30 seconds for the wlan0 interface to come online, then it starts firestarter.
[06:31] <pajamian> t1n0m3n: :-)
[06:32] <nnull> waan¬ ive never used awn but i do recall an option for that somewhere, possibly in compiz..
[06:32] <waan> nnull: yeah but i'm adding the panel so I can remove compiz
[06:32] <nnull> waan¬ definitally in cairo-dock
[06:33] <nnull> waan¬ but cairo-dock feels like something you buy at the $2 shop as shareware, works great very customizable just the interface is dunno old sharelookish heh
[06:33] <genefitz> I have learned to stay away from Compiz now. Every time I have installed it, it caused more problems than anything else.
[06:33] <nnull> waan¬ but the dock itself works a charm, bar the transparency without compiz
[06:33] <t1n0m3n> OK, I am outta here, pajamian, thanks for your inspiration
[06:33] <nnull> which you may not have a issue with
[06:34] <waan> nnull: i'll give this panels a go, if it gets in the way i'll just go back to the old "window list" on the top panel
[06:36] <live> is there anyone here?
[06:37] <waan> nnull: you wouldn't happen to know how to disable window snapping for metacity?
[06:37] <Stormy888> im here sorta
[06:37] <unohu62> hello
[06:38] <live> hehe
[06:38] <live> hello
[06:38] <formode> live, No, sorry, we're all drinking coffee. :(
[06:38] <pajamian> !hi | live
[06:38] <unohu62> thx....cheers!
[06:38] <waan> lol you could have just said hi
[06:38] <tree3> is there a list of leptops working well supported with ubuntu?
[06:38] <live> what it mean?
[06:39] <oz_> hi
[06:39] <MTecknology> tree3: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[06:39] <pajamian> !hardware | tree3
[06:40] <unohu62> what's everyone think of *.10?
[06:40] <unohu62> 8.10 lol
[06:40] <oz_> ...
[06:40] <pajamian> unohu62: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <paul68> !ibex
[06:41] <tree3> but how do I know -which to order?
[06:41] <nnull> waan¬ nar no idea soxz
[06:41] <MTecknology> unohu62: you can ask in -offtopic to - I love it
[06:41] <unohu62> okay, sorry...new to IRC  Just trying to get my bearings
[06:41] <PryMaL_> tree3 - you'll have to do some research and make an educated buy!
[06:41] <pajamian> tree3: if you want a laptop to run Linux on then I would look for one that doesn't come with the Microsoft tax.  That narrows down the choices considerably.
[06:42] <DR_K13> why not just wipe the hd?
[06:42] <tree3> pajamian: what you mean by tax
[06:42] <tree3> ?
[06:42] <DR_K13> how much is the tax really? 20 bucks?
[06:42] <pajamian> tree3: I mean why pay for Microsoft Windows when you don't intend to use it?
[06:42] <kc8pxy_> pajamian:  microsoft tax?
[06:42] <MTecknology> DR_K13: b/c the ones that don't carry that tax don't usually have hardware that is designed to work w/ linux and nothing else
[06:42] <tree3> pajamian: yes I am looking for a clean laptop
[06:43] <MTecknology> kc8pxy_: pay for a MS license when you buy it
[06:43] <DR_K13> I gotcha!
[06:43] <tree3> but need to know which once are working nice with ubuntu
[06:43] <waan> nnull: I think I can deal with this, the icons are alot smaller though, just have to get used to that I guess
[06:43] <unohu62> Dell, comes pre configured with Ubuntu
[06:43] <paul68> tree3: if I'm not mistaken DELL is selling laptops with ubuntu installed
[06:43] <pajamian> tree3: Dell sells laptops with ubuntu pre-installed.
[06:44] <pajamian> ...as others are pointing out.
[06:44] <paul68> pajamian: lol
[06:44] <unohu62> the smaller netbooks like Msi and Aus EEE and Acer One come with a linux option
[06:44] <pajamian> I talked my mom into buying one a couple years ago and all things considered it is working well for her.
[06:44] <unohu62> but lower spec machines
[06:45] <tree3> will look
[06:45] <kc8pxy_> MTecknology:  that doesn't happen at your generic computer store,where you get one w/o the tax, does it?(wallmart, bestbuy,circuitcity)
[06:45] <Jakob_the_liar> im trying to use startx to run my wm but it says error in locking authority file /home/johnny/.Xauthority
[06:45] <MTecknology> kc8pxy_: if it has windows on it, you paid for it
[06:45] <Jakob_the_liar> how do i fix it?
[06:45] <Jakob_the_liar> do i need to change the permissions?
[06:45] <pajamian> kc8pxy_: it is very difficult to find a retailer that will sell you a laptop without windows on it.
[06:46] <MTecknology> kc8pxy_: if it doesn't have windows on it - your chances of native suppose are significantly higher
[06:46] <oobe> do you already have gdm running Jakob_the_liar
[06:46] <Jakob_the_liar> yes oobe but i dont want to use it
[06:46] <Jakob_the_liar> i want to use startx for my window manager
[06:46] <oobe> if you do you need to stop it or run startx with this option startx -- :1
[06:47] <Jakob_the_liar> i mean i killed gdm to use startx
[06:47] <Jakob_the_liar> normally i just use startx and it runs
[06:47] <Jakob_the_liar> but now im getting this error
[06:47] <oobe> you can stop gdm by typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:47] <Jakob_the_liar> i did
[06:47] <oobe> do it from tty1
[06:48] <pajamian> Jakob_the_liar: you can try renaming that file that it mentions.
[06:48] <Jakob_the_liar> and when i was running my window manager i kept getting the error for things like synaptic and update manager
[06:48] <Jakob_the_liar> its my .Xauthority file pajamian
[06:48] <Jakob_the_liar> wont that screw things up
[06:48] <oobe> i think pajamian may be right
[06:48] <oobe> that could work
[06:48] <Jakob_the_liar> alright i'll try it
[06:49] <Jakob_the_liar> bbiab
[06:49] <oobe> just mv it to another name
[06:49] <pajamian> Jakob_the_liar: unless you have stuff customized in it then it should just re-create it, but I would rename it rather than delete just to be safem you can always rename it back if it causes problems.
[06:49] <oobe> but keep it
[06:49] <oobe> incase
[06:49] <Jakob_the_liar> k
[06:49] <oobe> then x will make a new one
[06:49] <Jakob_the_liar> brb
[06:49] <Xtyn> if i have an updated beta, i'm practically using the RC right now, right?
[06:50] <Kr0ntab> Xtyn: yes...
[06:50] <oobe> lol at me repeating pajamian
[06:50] <Xtyn> thx
[06:50] <Xtyn> :)
[06:50] <pajamian> :-)
[06:50] <Mr_Fixit> how do i add a user without admin privs?
[06:50] <pajamian> Mr_Fixit: sudo adduser foo
[06:50] <Kr0ntab> Mr_Fixit: just add the user as a desktop user...
[06:50] <Mr_Fixit> what about passwords?
[06:51] <alexi5> question:if iam downloadin g using fire fox and the active takes up all the download bandwidth preventing me from fetching another page from the browser or even sending a ping to remote site. when i pause the download i can resume usage of firefox. what can be the cause of this ?
[06:51] <pajamian> Mr_Fixit: after adding the user do: sudo passwd foo
[06:52] <pajamian> alexi5: you seem to be answering your own question.
[06:52] <Kr0ntab> Mr_Fixit: system.. administration... users and groups...  unlock the interface... add a user... set the password... and make sure you're adding it as a desktop user.
[06:52] <Jakob_the_liar> didnt work oobe
[06:53] <Jakob_the_liar> startx -- :1 did but my wm didnt load and i still got the error
[06:53] <oobe> do you know of anything that has changed on your system
[06:53] <oobe> do you usually not use gdm
[06:53] <genefitz> alexi5: when downloading, Firefox download manager will self-regulate itself, on matter of importance.
[06:53] <oobe> and just type startx
[06:53] <Jakob_the_liar> yea
[06:53] <Jakob_the_liar> i just did a fresh install
[06:53] <genefitz> many times, the download manager will take priority.
[06:54] <oobe> and now gdm is starting
[06:54] <Jakob_the_liar> reinstalled everything
[06:54] <Flynsarmy> I run gnome but use kde apps such as k3b. Is there a way to get the kde apps to look like the gnome ones?
[06:54] <genefitz> I don't think there is a fix for it..
[06:54] <Jakob_the_liar> but my home directory is on another partition so all my settings should be the same
[06:54] <t1n0m3n> ubuntu...  sense of accomplishment...  I dont get that with Windows anymore.  Today I setup grub to dual boot Vista and Ubuntu.  Troubleshot VPN issues using vpnc and network manager (got it working).  Got the 2870 ralink wireless NIC working with WPA2 PSK and aes.  Got firestarter to start automatically with a 30 second pause to allow the wireless interface to come up...  It has been a very good day to hack on ubuntu.
[06:54] <Jakob_the_liar> also im having problems with my wireless thats been happening for a couple days
[06:54] <Jakob_the_liar> i was connected then it just suddenly stopped
[06:54] <alexi5> pajamian: when i use firefox in windows (Vista and XP)  my downloads take up the maximum bandwidth but when i  do any sort of activity using the net such fetching another page or download from another application the download speed of the firefox download usually decreases and other activities are able to use the net
[06:54] <oobe> try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm Jakob_the_liar
[06:55] <Jakob_the_liar> now when i try to connect the icon just keeps spinning
[06:55] <t1n0m3n> now if adobe would produce a 64 bit flash, I would be all set
[06:55] <Jakob_the_liar> and if i do it manually i dont get any packets
[06:55] <pajamian> alexi5: what would you want it to do?
[06:55] <Jakob_the_liar> it was working fine i hadnt updated or installed anything and it just suddenly quit
[06:55] <oobe> one thing at a time
[06:55] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, you can hack 32bit flash to work on 64bit linux
[06:55] <oobe> which is the most important to you
[06:55] <Jakob_the_liar> wireless
[06:56] <oobe> ok what network manager do you use
[06:56] <alexi5> pajamian:i just want to know what should it do
[06:56] <oobe> i use /etc/network/interfaces
[06:56] <genefitz> alexi5, that is partially because in windows regulates connection and resource management.
[06:56] <Jakob_the_liar> networkmanager
[06:56] <Jakob_the_liar> i tried that too
[06:56] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: 32 bit flash + ubuntu 64 + hulu.com + full screen = slideshow
[06:56] <oobe> i have heard good things about wicd
[06:56] <Jakob_the_liar> iface eth2 inet dhcp etc etc
[06:56] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, yeah!
[06:56] <Jakob_the_liar> tried wicd
[06:56] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, lol yeah right
[06:56] <oobe> but myseld and many other people have trouble with NetworkManager
[06:56] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, i dont think i could ever get that working without flash crashing
[06:56] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, even on 32bit
[06:56] <gonein> anyone know a good place to bulk check domain names, i used moniker before but they now require you to register and godaddy doesnt work right
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> yea i've been reading lots of bug reports
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> none have been any help though
[06:57] <oobe> if wicd doesnt work
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> i tried wicd
[06:57] <pajamian> gonein: generic whois lookup.
[06:57] <oobe> try manually configuring your wireless with /etc/network/interfaces
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> its like my wireless just geeps trying to connect
[06:57] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: it works fine for me, its just really slow.  I am hoping that a 64 bit version will be faster
[06:57] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, oh
[06:57] <pajamian> gonein: I wouldn't trust any website to check my domain names for me.
[06:57] <oobe> also i can pm you some simple scripts i use to connect my wireless
[06:57] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, no thats flash sucking at 2d rendering
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> i have a error log i made of all the relevant stuff i'll pastebin it
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> sure oobe
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> anything is appreciated
[06:57] <oobe> wait one sec
[06:57] <Jakob_the_liar> im desperate
[06:58] <grendal_prime> i need a shortcut key to minimize all the running apps on my desktop somthing i can bind to the the middle mouse button
[06:58] <grendal_prime> im going crazy with all this stuff allover my desktop
[06:58] <Jakob_the_liar> http://pastebin.com/m1678d94d oobe
[06:58] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: I wouldnt doubt that.  Adobe's code seems a bit kludge even in windows.
[06:59] <pajamian> grendal_prime: I just click the little box icon on the panel.
[06:59] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, they keep whining about not making a 64bit version
[06:59] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, claiming its too hard to make new JITs
[06:59] <telexicon> i call BS
[06:59] <Jakob_the_liar> my wireless picks up signals it just doesnt connect
[06:59] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: lol, wimps
[06:59] <telexicon> first of all
[06:59] <telexicon> they could make an interpreter fallback
[06:59] <oobe> Jakob_the_liar, do you use wep or wpa
[06:59] <telexicon> if that had to
[06:59] <telexicon> just to get things working
[06:59] <Jakob_the_liar> i've tried linksys wireless g card two ipw2200 internals and an atheros g
[06:59] <Jakob_the_liar> nothing oobe
[07:00] <Bandit> hey everyone i need to move all and subdirectories in the folder /stuff to the root folder above it /   how would i do this on the command line
[07:00] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, but for example, the LLVM project
[07:00] <Jakob_the_liar> no key
[07:00] <Bandit> all files*
[07:00] <Bandit> and subdirectories
[07:00] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, the LLVM project has JITs for x86, x86_64, powerpc and powerpc-64
[07:00] <oobe> ok then thats simpler but heh well im not going to say anything
[07:00] <grendal_prime> pajamian: i need something faster than that...actually i was trying to get the active border thing in kde working so i could just move my cursor over to the right border and it would go to the next screen...but that seems only to work on the top and bottom borders
[07:00] <histo> Bandit: your moving folders to /
[07:00] <histo> ?
[07:00] <Bandit> yes
[07:00] <Bandit> everything in stuff
[07:00] <histo> Bandit: why?
[07:00] <Bandit> i want to put in /
[07:00] <Bandit> it's on a server
[07:00] <histo> Bandit: thats not a good idea
[07:00] <pajamian> Bandit: sudo mv /stuff/* /
[07:01] <oobe> iwconfig wlan2 mode Managed
[07:01] <oobe> iwconfig wlan2 key your wep key
[07:01] <oobe> iwconfig wlan2 ap 00:1A:70:DB:10:B7
[07:01] <oobe> iwconfig wlan2 essid "linksys"
[07:01] <oobe> iwconfig wlan2 commit
[07:01] <FloodBot1> oobe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <oobe> ifconfig wlan2 192.168.1.10 up
[07:01] <Bandit> thanks
[07:01] <histo> Bandit: you shouldn't use / for storage and that command he gave you won't move directories
[07:01] <Bandit> histo
[07:01] <Bandit> ok heres the real thing
[07:01] <oobe> hello Floodbot that was a pm
[07:01] <Bandit> on a server
[07:01] <bruenig> !enter
[07:01] <Bandit> i have /home/myuser/public_html/stuff
[07:01] <Bandit> i want everything in /stuff
[07:01] <Bandit> to be in public_html/
[07:02] <bruenig> um
[07:02] <Bandit> would you know how to do this histo
[07:02] <bruenig> moved or copied Bandit ?
[07:02] <Bandit> moved
[07:03] <bruenig> mv /home/myuser/public_html/stuff/* /home/myuser/public_html
[07:03] <pajamian> Bandit: mv public_html/stuff/* public_html/
[07:03] <bruenig> hopefully you don't have a directory within stuff called stuff, else you will get an error in moving that directory, i.e. /home/myuser/public_html/stuff/stuff, if that dir exists, it won't work
[07:04] <Bandit> shit
[07:04] <Bandit> yeah i have subdirectories
[07:04] <histo> Bandit: mv -dR /home/myuser/public_html/stuff/* /public_html
[07:04] <pajamian> Bandit: subdirectoreis are fine as long as you don't have one named stuff.
[07:04] <bruenig> subdirectories are fine, you just can't have /home/my/user/public_html/stuff/stuff
[07:04] <Bandit> oh ok
[07:04] <histo> Bandit: actually scratch that I don't believe mv will do recursive
[07:05] <bruenig> 'stuff' has to be one level down
[07:05] <histo> Bandit: so you may have to cp
[07:05] <bruenig> mv is recursive
[07:05] <Bandit> ah
[07:05] <histo> bruenig: without the -R
[07:05] <histo> ?
[07:05] <bruenig> yes without the R
[07:05] <The_Dr> Hi I cannot get windows xp to boot, it just kicks back to the grub menu. Help
[07:05] <Bandit> thanks guys
[07:05] <pajamian> histo: mv doesn't have to do recursive.
[07:05] <t1n0m3n> lol, installing hellgate: london for giggles... just to see what happens
[07:05] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, under wine?
[07:05] <histo> Bandit: yeah so just mv /home/mysuser/public_html/stuff/* /public_html
[07:05] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: yeah
[07:06] <telexicon> t1n0m3n, hows it going?
[07:06] <pajamian> Bandit: the only thing that mv command won't move is hidden files in stuff (files startign with a .) if you really need to move those too then there are ways.
[07:06] <N[]vA> ola
[07:06] <bruenig> well not /public_html as I doubt the directory exists and probably doesn't have user permissions
[07:06] <t1n0m3n> ﻿telexicon: seems ok so far, the installer works and is writing to the disk
[07:06] <tuxtrek> has any one ever installed MSFS to Ubuntu?
[07:06] <histo> bruenig: thats what he gave as his example
[07:06] <Bandit> ok cool thanks bruenig pajamian and histo
[07:06] <bruenig> it will move those things so long as they are more than one level down
[07:07] <histo> Thats why I would just use a cp
[07:07] <histo> cp -r /works/perfectly/* /destination
[07:07] <pajamian> histo: mv is for all intensive purposes recursive.  If you mv a directory everything under it gets moved too.
[07:08] <kapssi> d
[07:08] <bruenig> histo: mv works in exactly the same way
[07:08] <histo> man this new seamless stuff in vbox is cool.
[07:08] <bruenig> histo: cp doesn't work on dot files there either
[07:08] <ml> pajamain even hidden files?
[07:08] <pajamian> histo: and your cp -r command would suffer the same problem with hidden files as mv
[07:08] <bruenig> histo: the reason the dot files don't work is because of bash globbing, not because of mv and cp
[07:09] <bruenig> unless you are proposing the cp is happening in a shell other than bash with different globbing rules...
[07:09] <bruenig> but at that point, the mv would work too, so, indeed strange advice nonetheless
[07:10] <pajamian> histo: Bandit: bruenig: if you need to mv hidden files as well then what tends to work is this: mv public_html/stuff/{*,.??*} public_html/
[07:10] <Bandit> excellent! thanks so much
[07:10] <axisys> how do I play VideoCD?
[07:11] <bruenig> pajamian: or you could change the bash globbing rules for a second and just run the same command
[07:11] <tuxtrek> axisys : do you mean DVD?
[07:11] <pajamian> bruenig: how would you do that?
[07:12] <axisys> tuxtrek: no.. videocd.. they have them all over in asia
[07:12] <tuxtrek> ok unsure for a VideoCD have you googled?
[07:13] <Kr0ntab> axisys: totem, mplayer, xine, and VLC are all capable players for videocd
[07:13] <pajamian> axisys: tuxtrek: videoCDs should play the same as a DVD, I recommend VLC
[07:13] <bruenig> pajamian: shopt -s dotglob
[07:14] <tuxtrek> ahh ok
[07:14] <ballzee> is there a differnce between 64 bit and 32 for a normal user?
[07:14] <histo> Anyone know how i can remove grub from my thumb drive?
[07:14] <bruenig> pajamian: thus: shopt -s dotglob; command; shopt -u dotglob
[07:14] <tuxtrek> histo:gparted
[07:15] <pajamian> bruenig: cool
[07:15] <abi_> Hi everyone!
[07:15] <bruenig> histo: dd
[07:15] <Flynsarmy> Is there a better way to arrange the menus for the applications toolbar? the one that is used in 'edit menus' is so horrible
[07:15] <histo> bruenig: dd bad still want to save data hopefully.
[07:15] <abi_> can you tell me where can i download Avant Windows Skins
[07:15] <bruenig> Flynsarmy: use a text editor and edit files in /usr/share/applications
[07:15] <mooshed> i can
[07:16] <brad__> can someone help with a really stupid internet error?
[07:16] <mooshed> are there some routers you cant ssh on?
[07:16] <pajamian> !ask | brad__
[07:16] <t1n0m3n> holy crap it installed
[07:16] <mooshed> im on a neighbors goofball connection, and it wont let me ssh
[07:16] <brad__> are you freaking kidding me
[07:16] <axisys> Kr0ntab, pajamian: vlc is not playing my vcd (video cd)
[07:16] <histo> tuxtrek: what jsut remove the boot flag?
[07:17] <brad__> I log into #ubuntu the error is gone.
[07:17] <brad__> oh well.
[07:17] <pajamian> axisys: you may have to install libdvd
[07:17] <brad__> I'm trying to figure out how to connect to a windows share
[07:17] <tuxtrek> yes that should do  it
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> lol, ok, downloading the hellgate: london patch... stay tuned
[07:18] <pajamian> mooshed: talk to your neighbor about it.
[07:18] <axisys> pajamian: i can play dvd.. i am assuming i have libdvd then
[07:18] <pajamian> axisys: yes, you should.
[07:19] <pajamian> axisys: in that case I don't know why you can't play vcd's
[07:19] <axisys> pajamian: th vcd is fine.. it plays ok in windows box
[07:19] <brad__> anyone? help with a windows share
[07:20] <pajamian> brad__: usually I just go to Network in the Places menu and browse to the share.
[07:20] <woody86> is there an open source alternative to quickbooks?
[07:20] <ubuntu> Hi i need some help i have my computer set as dual boot and then i reinstalled windows that got rid of grub and now i cant boot into my ubuntu how can i reinstall grup so i can get into my existing unbuntu
[07:21] <freetown> ubuntu uses lilo?
[07:21] <tuxtrek> axisys:http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/01/20/playing-vcds-on-ubuntu-linux-how-to/
[07:21] <pajamian> freetown: it can, but by default ubuntu uses grub
[07:21] <freetown> nevermind...how do i get my hands on the lilo prompt...i get a kernel panic and i cannot pass args to the kernek
[07:22] <axisys> tuxtrek: thnx
[07:22] <pajamian> !grub | ubuntu
[07:22] <Koch> Hello! I was wondering if there is any way to install Ubuntu into text-mode, that is without X
[07:22] <tuxtrek> no prob
[07:22] <freetown> pajamian, the alternate installer stuffed lilo on for me
[07:22] <pajamian> freetown: yes, it can do that if you explicitly tell it to.
[07:22] <freetown> ??? taht was the only option i saw as def?
[07:23] <DistroJockey> woody86, try gnucash or homebank
[07:23] <brad__> ok, I got it to ask for my credentals, now it won't accept them
[07:23] <abcdefgh> @Koch you can install Ubuntu with the just the bare bones
[07:23] <abcdefgh> ie excluding X
[07:23] <ubuntu> tuxtrek: this is not how to install grub i think you gave me the wrong link
[07:23] <woody86> DistroJockey- ok, thanks :)
[07:23] <DistroJockey> woody86, no problem :)
[07:24] <tuxtrek> my mis understanding i thought you were trying to remove it
[07:24] <freetown> man....not seen lilo in ages
[07:24] <pajamian> freetown: you probably misread the selection.  It always installs grub for me and I have used both the liveCD and alternate CD to install with.
[07:24] <abcdefgh> @ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:24] <pajamian> !lilo | freetown
[07:24] <freetown> pajamian, eh? nah...it said lilo or advanced
[07:24] <Koch> abcdefgh: How do I do that?
[07:24] <ubuntu> Hi i need some help i have my computer set as dual boot and then i reinstalled windows that got rid of grub and now i cant boot into my ubuntu how can i reinstall grub so i can get into my existing unbuntu
[07:24] <freetown> but anyways, i have my ahnds on lilo prompt. thnx
[07:24] <abcdefgh> @Koch you can download the iso hold on I'll find it
[07:24] <pajamian> freetown: did you already ahve lilo installed?  maybe it detected that and gave you that as the default option instead of grub?
[07:25] <abcdefgh> @ubuntu go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:25] <Koch> abcdefgh: Ok, thanks :)
[07:25] <Guest84675> can someone help me upgrade from 7.04, puter crashed only cd i had no longer supported
[07:25] <freetown> pajamian, i have not installed lilo since rh7.x
[07:25] <brad__> I'm just going to slam this hard drive into a wall
[07:25] <freetown> and no...i did not have a rh7.x installed
[07:25] <pajamian> freetown: I haven't since before then, heh
[07:25] <Koch> Does anyone have a guide to install Ubuntu on a USB-stick or is it just to follow the normal installation?
[07:26] <DistroJockey> !grub ubuntu
[07:26] <DistroJockey> !grub|  ubuntu
[07:26] <pajamian> freetown: I honestly don't know why it installed lilo for you, I can only guess.  I do know that it should have installed grub by default.
[07:26] <alexcore> hello for all
[07:27] <freetown> pajamian, blast...the kernel keeps going into panic. i have tried noapic and acpi=off. Any more suggestions?
[07:27] <pajamian> freetown: sorry, I'm not very expert in that area.
[07:27] <freetown> i don't get it...the livecd and the installer boot up okay
[07:27] <abcdefgh> @Koch https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:27] <alexi5> pajamian:has that situation ever happened to you (not necessary with those apps) and you have different results with another OS?
[07:27] <JakeConnor> i get these messages each time i run a svn command, how do i fix this? svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale
[07:27] <JakeConnor> svn: warning: environment variable LANG is aa_DJ.utf8
[07:27] <JakeConnor> svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct
[07:27] <JakeConnor> sorry for the triple post
[07:27] <FloodBot1> JakeConnor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <pajamian> alexi5: what situation?
[07:28] <abcdefgh> @Koch https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:28] <Debolaz> Is there a simple tool that will let me convert videos to iphone/ipod mp4 format?
[07:28] <xorl> this is anoying as all bejesus
[07:28] <xorl> so i have a nic card r8180
[07:29] <brad__> the freaking host is NOT DOWN
[07:29] <Koch> abcdefgh: Thanks, I'll try it out :)
[07:29] <xorl> whenever i try to modprobe it it says "unknown symbol ieee80211_wpa_supplocant_ioctl"
[07:29] <alexi5> pajamian:the one mentioned earlier
[07:29] <xorl> odd part is i have the module that HAS that symbol in it modprobed
[07:29] <pajamian> alexi5: You'll have to refresh my memory.
[07:29] <dAniaL-DINO> i hope this ubuntu 8.10 can support my atheros wireless
[07:29] <xorl> i've run depomod
[07:29] <xorl> but still no go
[07:30] <xorl> depmod -a
[07:30] <xorl> **
[07:30] <pajamian> dAniaL-DINO: I've had no problems with atheros wireless in 8.04
[07:30] <jim_p> does anyone know of a good web interface to control wget? if there is such thing of course
[07:30] <bruenig> jim_p: pretty sure there isn't
[07:30] <Guest84675> anyone know how to upgrade from 7.04?
[07:30] <pajamian> jim_p: why would you want such a thing?
[07:31] <pajamian> Guest84675: you have to either incrementally upgrade or just reinstall.
[07:31] <jim_p> bruenig: so my only option is ssh + wget + some list for wget
[07:31] <DistroJockey> jim_p, gwget
"question:if iam downloadin g using fire fox and the active takes up all the download bandwidth preventing me from fetching another page from the browser or even sending a ping to remote site. when i pause the download i can resume usage of firefox. what can be the cause of this ?"
[07:31] <bruenig> DistroJockey: gwget is not a web interface and is a mess
[07:31] <jim_p> DistroJockey: gwget is an ui as far as i know. does it have a web interface plugin?
[07:31] <DistroJockey> bruenig, ahh, yeah
[07:31] <bruenig> jim_p: yes, wget supports lists of urls as input
[07:31] <DistroJockey> jim_p, not sorry, my bad
[07:31] <bruenig> jim_p: so you could just drop a textfile somewhere with your urls and have a cronjob take care of it
[07:31] <DistroJockey> nope^
[07:32] <dAniaL-DINO> pajamian:how u configure ur wifi?
[07:32] <brad__> Someone lend me a hammer please?
[07:32] <pajamian> alexi5: it depends largely on your connection and on the resources available for your computer.  It is entirely possible for FF to do that.
[07:32]  * Joker_-_ fetch a hammer to brad__ 
[07:32] <Guest84675> unsupported, how do i do  it manually
[07:32] <pajamian> dAniaL-DINO: I used the restricted drivers manager.
[07:32] <brad__> I'm just going to smash this pc and not worry about it
[07:32] <jim_p> so, now that the download managers are on play :P , which one do you suggest for a gui one?
[07:32]  * brad__ uses a sprint EVDO card and a atheos drive
[07:32] <jim_p> i used to have d4x but i dumped it
[07:33] <xorl> heh
[07:33] <xorl> n/m i am just ordering a mini-pcie card.
[07:33] <jim_p> brad__: why? what happened?
[07:33] <Guest84675> cd burner won't work in 7.04, had 8.1 but crashed, only cd i had was 7.04
[07:33] <brad__> why to the hammer?
[07:33] <brad__> Hey SMB4K sees it now!
[07:33] <brad__> Mount error 2 = No such file or directory
[07:34] <Joker_-_> and I'm out. Just so you know, if anyone cares, I finally got my server back on a raid mirrorring. Had to recopy my /boot so that it gets the kernel supporting mdadm, got to edit fstab, got to play a bit with grub and menu.lst.
[07:34] <alexi5> pajamian:ok. i thought the OS usually manage the resource  so as to prevent other processes from being starved. thanks for the reply
[07:34] <jim_p> brad__: no. what the real ploblem is?
[07:34] <b64aa6> hi
[07:34] <brad__> I'm trying to mount a windows share on from a vista pc to my ubuntu 8.10 laptop
[07:34] <jim_p> Joker_-_: well done
[07:34] <jim_p> brad__: through fstab?
[07:34] <Jakob_the_liar> where can i get pangocairo?
[07:34] <brad__> I can see it in smb4K, but it says either host is down, or
[07:34] <pajamian> alexi5: I think it's possible but I don't know how to configure it.
[07:35] <brad__> the host isn't bloody down!
[07:35] <jim_p> brad__: have you tried fstab already?
[07:35] <Guest84675> pajamian: know there is a file i can just change, know what it is?
[07:35] <brad__> no idea how to use fstab
[07:35] <Dude_Man> >_>
[07:35] <Dude_Man> herro
[07:35] <Joker_-_> jim_p: a nice "well done" is always welcomed. Tho seeing no [FAIL] during boot and having access to that ISPConfig web interface again is the best "good job" thank you can get ;)
[07:35] <Louie82Y> hai
[07:36] <tuxtrek> jakob http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2007-April/010490.html read this
[07:36] <Joker_-_> anyway, thx to everyone who helped / thrown ideas
[07:36] <pajamian> Guest84675: You want to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04 by altering a single file?
[07:36] <Joker_-_> cya
[07:36] <b64aa6> I messed up my locale settings. can anyone kindly give me the output of "locale" output, like LC_* stuff on pastebin? please?
[07:36] <jim_p> brad__: do you use static ips there? i can do the fstab part
[07:37] <brad__> Nope
[07:37] <brad__> I know the IP address
[07:37] <Guest84675> pajamian: no probably have to go to 7.10 first
[07:37] <jim_p> brad__: is it static?
[07:37] <brad__> no
[07:37] <brad__> dynamic
[07:37] <Dextorion> morning
[07:37] <pajamian> Guest84675: just launch the update manger and there is a button you click on to upgrade to the next version, and yes you will have to go to 7.10 first.
[07:37] <jim_p> brad__: then it will work now, but when the router redistributes ips through dhcp, you are back to 0
[07:38] <brad__> I have too much of a problem with static IP's with so much stuff coming and going
[07:38] <brad__> until my desktop got put in storage, it didn't change in 6 months
[07:38] <Guest84675> pajamian: when i go there says 7.04 unsupported
[07:38] <brad__> jim_p, I don't really care if it dies, I Just need some files off.
[07:38] <jim_p> brad__: what is the current ip on THAT pc ? the vista one
[07:39] <brad__> 192.168.1.118
[07:39] <Louie82Y> Hey uh, I burned Ubuntu 8.04 to a cd, everything was burned successfully, but when ever I run the CD it just asks if I want to import images. How could I run the installer? O_O
[07:39] <Dude_Man> >_>
[07:39] <Louie82Y> <_<
[07:39] <Dude_Man> lol
[07:39] <jim_p> brad__: give me some time to make an fstab entry
[07:40] <b64aa6> you'll have to update /etc/apt/sources.lst or something, to point to archive.ubuntu.com if you are using lery old ubuntu
[07:40] <pajamian> Guest84675: ok, if that doesn't work then you can try downloading the 7.10 alternate CD .iso and mounting it via loopback and then you should be able to run the upgrader from that.  It won't require burning a CD to do it that way.
[07:41] <paul68> jim_p: do you know something about advanced dns en dhcp configuration?
[07:41] <jim_p> brad__: name of the shared folder?
[07:41] <brad__> c
[07:41] <jim_p> paul68: i may know, tell me
[07:41] <Guest84675> pajamian:k try that thanks
[07:42] <dAniaL-DINO> i want to know..why i client cannot access when i set 127.0.0.1:3128 transparent in my squid?
[07:42] <dAniaL-DINO> i want to know..why my client cannot access when i set 127.0.0.1:3128 transparent in my squid?
[07:42] <jim_p> brad__: so its C on 192.168.1.118? no other folder or subfolder?
[07:42] <brad__> dAniaL-DINO,  you need it to be your WAN Ip address, not the loopback
[07:42] <paul68> jim_p: where do I determine where the dnsauto update definition is set in de config files for dns and dhcp also where to declare the acl lists?
[07:43] <brad__> its the main C drive share
[07:43] <dAniaL-DINO> ic..
[07:43] <jim_p> paul68: sorry, i dont know. i can look it up in a bit ok?
[07:43] <alexcore> does anyone know whats the difference between firefox and iceweasel?
[07:43] <jim_p> brad__: no password or login is required to see it, right?
[07:43] <brad__> it is
[07:43] <paul68> jim_p: ok thanks
[07:44] <MTecknology> !info iceweasel
[07:44] <oobe> does anyone know why floodbot doesnt mind if i flood him with pm's
[07:44] <brad__> well you can see it without it, but you need a user and pass to connect
[07:44] <oobe> hey FloodBot1 your a hairy bastard
[07:44] <brad__> iceweasel was code name for firefox wasn't it?
[07:44] <tuxtrek> oobe because hes a bot
[07:44] <jim_p> brad__: tell me then
[07:44] <axisys> tuxtrek: did not help
[07:44] <jim_p> iceweasel is debian made firefox
[07:44] <axisys> anyone knows how to play vcd in ubuntu ?
[07:44] <tuxtrek> so still no vcd
[07:44] <jim_p> brad__: or pm me with them
[07:44] <axisys> tried with vlc and mplayer
[07:44] <axisys> tuxtrek: no
[07:45] <axisys> tuxtrek: no :-(
[07:45] <jim_p> axisys: you need codecs
[07:45] <tuxtrek> than i am very stumped
[07:45] <axisys> jim_p: i can play dvd.. just an fyi
[07:45] <oobe> tuxtrek, i know but he kicks ppl for spamming channel but is defensless to pm spam
[07:45] <alexcore> is iceweasel a fork of firefox?
[07:45] <mynx38> I though mplayer did vcd?
[07:46] <tuxtrek> oobe that is the way his script is written
[07:46] <Leonheart> mynx38 : you must add plugin for it
[07:46] <mynx38> ah ok
[07:46] <brad__> I can't even play a DVD... I think my dvd-rom took a dump
[07:46] <axisys> mynx38: mplayer vcd:// or any version of that is not working
[07:46] <Kartagis> why does vim give me conversion error and what can i do about it?
[07:47] <Leonheart>  brad__: there is unofficial lib for dvd for mplayer. I just forget the name
[07:47] <pajamian> Leonheart: brad__: libdvd2 and is available from the medibuntu repository
[07:48] <Koch> Hmm, it doesn't work the way I want it to, does anyone now any good guide to install Ubuntu on a USB stick and install it into text-mode, the installation process can be with X but the result should be without X
[07:48] <hirak99> hi.. how can i connect to sftp on a port other than 22?
[07:49] <hirak99> the manual says to use "oport=443" but that doesn't seem to work
[07:50] <Svenstaro> hirak99, sftp -p 222
[07:50] <tuxtrek> night-all going to give my first case of the flu a rest bye
[07:50] <Kartagis> 22 is ssh port dude
[07:51] <hirak99> Svenstaro: it says illegal option -- p
[07:52] <Dude_Man> so i herd u liek mudkipz
[07:52] <El_Zombie> This is madness
[07:52] <Dude_Man> MADNESS!?
[07:52] <Dude_Man> THIS
[07:52] <Dude_Man> IS
[07:52] <Dude_Man> SPARTA!
[07:52] <hirak99> also where do i specify the location on sftp? i want to sftp to 192.168.0.3 port 443
[07:52]  * Dude_Man kicks El_Zombie into the pit of doom
[07:52]  * El_Zombie counter-attacks with a ninja kick to the balls! *
[07:52] <hirak99> to test the local server
[07:52] <El_Zombie> ThIs Is mAdNeSs
[07:52]  * El_Zombie punches DM in the face
[07:52] <Dude_Man> mAdNeSs!?
[07:52] <Dude_Man> THIS
[07:52] <Dude_Man> IS
[07:52] <eross> for anyone who wants to know, prey for pc has been ported to linux, and the single-player demo blew me away. at first i was like oh yay another doom (besides the limited 8-player multiplayer), but I recommend checking it out.
[07:52] <Dude_Man> SPARTA
[07:52]  * Dude_Man kicks El_Zombie into the pit of doom
[07:52]  * El_Zombie counter-attacks with a YO MOMMA joke! *
[07:53] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <Dude_Man> LOLFLOODBOT
[07:53] <Dude_Man> FTW
[07:53] <El_Zombie> EPIC
[07:53] <El_Zombie> WIN
[07:53] <El_Zombie> BITCH
[07:53] <Dude_Man> HEY
[07:53] <Dude_Man> IF I SPAM
[07:53] <El_Zombie> U GOT OWND
[07:53] <Dude_Man> DOES HE KICK ME!?11/
[07:53] <Dude_Man> :@
[07:53] <El_Zombie> IDK
[07:53] <El_Zombie> DO EET
[07:53] <Dude_Man> NO U
[07:53] <El_Zombie> NO US
[07:53] <Leonheart> Is there is a way to kick in the nut with ubuntu -- pidgin :P
[07:53]  * Dude_Man notices how the chat slows down
[07:53] <El_Zombie> XD
[07:53] <El_Zombie> EPIC
[07:54] <El_Zombie> ...obanned
[07:54]  * El_Zombie quiets down
[07:54] <eross> everyone staying out of the firing line
[07:54] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <FloodBot1> El_Zombie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <Dude_Man> LOL HESAID I WAS MUTED
[07:54] <Dude_Man> XD
[07:55] <Dude_Man> HE WAS ALL LIKE
[07:55] <Dude_Man> -FloodBot1- You have been muted automatically, you will be able to speak again when the flood is up.
[07:55] <Dude_Man> BUT I TOTALLY WASN'T MUTED
[07:55] <Dude_Man> THAT'S AWESOME
[07:55] <El_Zombie> LOL U GOT MUTED
[07:55] <El_Zombie> ...
[07:55] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <El_Zombie> Poor dude man. He doesn't afraid of flood.
[07:56]  * Leonheart laugh see naughty user :P
[07:56] <El_Zombie> DM, you keep getting banned and I may have to rape your face.
[07:56] <joshual> does anyone use awn-manager? somehow I managed to add a separator and can't remove it as it's not listed in preferences under applets...
[07:56] <joshual> help
[07:56] <El_Zombie> Of course, you would like that.
[07:56] <Dude_Man> XD
[07:56] <Dude_Man> Dude
[07:56] <Dude_Man> if I keep getting banned
[07:56] <Dude_Man> it'll fuel my spam
[07:56] <Dude_Man> because he fails at kicking
[07:56] <Dude_Man> rofl
[07:57] <El_Zombie> All you have to do is space out letters or do two words
[07:57] <Dude_Man> yeah
[07:57] <Dude_Man> like this
[07:57] <El_Zombie> It's a poorly written bot
[07:57] <Dude_Man> it'll be
[07:57] <Dude_Man> like
[07:57] <Dude_Man> you know
[07:57] <Dude_Man> awesome
[07:57] <Dude_Man> and stuff
[07:57] <El_Zombie> I piss on its creator
[07:57] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <Dude_Man> heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:57] <DistroJockey> Dude_Man, El_Zombie : please take your crap elsewhere
[07:57] <El_Zombie> Hey, this isn't crap. We're having a legitimate Linux conversation.
[07:58] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <Dude_Man> wheeeeee
[07:58] <El_Zombie> Quit using one-word sentences!
[07:58] <Dude_Man> I UM...
[07:58] <El_Zombie> Silly idjit
[07:59] <Dude_Man> THESE ARE TWO OR MORE WORD SCENTANCES!
[07:59] <Dude_Man> :D
[07:59] <joshual> is there a configuration file i could edit perhaps? anyone?
[07:59] <El_Zombie> ANYWHO, LET US TALK LINUX.
[07:59] <Dude_Man> Ubuntu + mIRC = win
[07:59] <Dude_Man> <3
[07:59] <El_Zombie> LINUX IS... COOL.
[07:59] <Dude_Man> nonononono
[07:59] <El_Zombie> IT'S ALL
[07:59] <oobe> i like the irony of flooding a floodbot
[07:59] <Dude_Man> Linux is sex.
[07:59] <El_Zombie> PENGUINY AND SHIT.
[07:59] <Dude_Man> yeah
[07:59] <Dude_Man> XD
[07:59] <Dude_Man> lol nickname
[08:00] <El_Zombie> I wonder if floodbot would shit bricks if everyone simoultaneously flooded.
[08:00] <DistroJockey> !ops
[08:00] <Dude_Man> XD
[08:00] <Dude_Man> HEY
[08:00] <Dude_Man> EVERYONE
[08:00] <Dude_Man> LETS TRY IT
[08:00] <Dude_Man> :@
[08:00] <FloodBot1> El_Zombie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <FloodBot1> Dude_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <Dude_Man> oh ho
[08:00] <Efrem> u there
[08:00] <DistroJockey> thanks nalioth
[08:01] <Zorbinski> anyone here?
[08:01] <DistroJockey> yep
[08:02] <Zorbinski> sweet I need some help I am not so good at the Linux command line and the ways of doing things in ubuntu
[08:02] <DistroJockey> ask away
[08:03] <Zorbinski> okay, I am logged into a web server via ssh, and I want to be able to ftp into that same server with firefox, and I need to do something with my ssh key....really lost here
[08:03] <Zorbinski> sorry not with firefox, I mean with filezilla
[08:04] <DistroJockey> Zorbinski, can you be more specific about the ssh key and what you need to do? Error messages?
[08:05] <DistroJockey> Zorbinski, I'm assuming you either need to create or re-generate them
[08:05] <tarelerulz2> Is there any media player that support library search for songs and videos ?
[08:05] <Zorbinski> okay, I generated the keys and gave one right one to admin of the web server, and I don't really know what I am suppose to do with my key now
[08:05] <shal3r> Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1) ...
[08:05] <shal3r> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[08:06] <shal3r> how to reinstall script in /etc/init.d ?
[08:06] <Zorbinski> I really new at this, I got the ubuntu media stuff down now I am trying to tackle the server stuff
[08:06] <DistroJockey> Zorbinski, not really my area sorry. Hopefully someone can help
[08:06] <histo> What keys?
[08:07] <DistroJockey> ssh^
[08:07] <histo> Zorbinski: you need to install ftp server.
[08:07] <nnull> histo¬ err openssh-server comes with a sftp afaik..
[08:07] <Zorbinski> okay
[08:07] <histo> can't a user log in without the key? doens't it just prompt them that the key is new.
[08:08] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to check status of mounts? ive unplugged y thumb drive a few times but when i do it doesnt go away in nautilus
[08:08] <Zorbinski> i dunno I am in thorugh the command line but I want to get in with filezilla
[08:09] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, type  mount  at a terminal
[08:09] <DigitalFiz> im suprised unplugging an extrenal device without unmounting it is still an issue
[08:09] <histo> Zorbinski: you need to install ftp server then you could hit the server via filezilla etc... There is sftp as well which is over ssh.
[08:10] <Jakob_the_liar> how do you install a particular package without the dependencies?
[08:10] <Jakob_the_liar> and how do you remove one without removing its dependencies
[08:11] <Zorbinski> okay what is a good ftp server to install, any names?
[08:11] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, really should unmount before pulling stuff out. Not doing so is like taking out your hard drive while the PC is still running
[08:11] <binarymutant> Jakob_the_liar: with the -f switch in apt-get
[08:11] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: you can't install the package with out its depends.
[08:11] <ziroday> Zorbinski: there are many and there is usually no best, however I use vsftp
[08:11] <Jakob_the_liar> i need libconfuse 2.6
[08:11] <ziroday> !best > Zorbinski
[08:11] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: you can download the .deb
[08:12] <Jakob_the_liar> i know i just wanted to know how to do it command line
[08:12] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: downlado the deb?
[08:12] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, not really thats what usb is for ive always found it odd linux has issues with it, its really trivial. the only time it should be an issue would be if somethings being written/read from the usb device
[08:12] <Jakob_the_liar> no
[08:12] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: -d switch i believe. sudo aptitude -d packagename
[08:13] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, and if you decide to unplug it while somethings going on its your own fault there should be an auto unmount when the device is unplugged just like its auto mounted when its plugged in
[08:13] <histo> JokerAway: scratch that sudo aptitude download packagename
[08:14] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:14] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: scratch that sudo aptitude download packagename
[08:14] <histo> Jakob_the_liar: That will put the deb file in the current directoyr.
[08:14] <RanyAlbeg> Hey all!
[08:14] <RanyAlbeg> :|
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> its saying i need libconfuse 2.6
[08:15] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: Hi, do you have question?
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> but thats for intrepid
[08:15] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, OS's usually cache stuff to be written to USB flash in particular and also USB HDD's to limit wear and tear. So not always is everything written straight away
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> im on gutsy
[08:15] <Zorbinski> so if I install vsftpd that will help me get into the web server??
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> what that dealio
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> i never needed 2.6 before
[08:15] <Jakob_the_liar> what gives
[08:16] <ziroday> Zorbinski: that is a ftp server, what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:16] <Jakob_the_liar> hardy wasnt even out last time i installed this window manager
[08:16] <RanyAlbeg> I need a replacement for 'glipper' is there any other clipboard which will provide me same features?
[08:16] <chetnick> I copied my ubuntu system to another added hard drive, how would i add now that system to grub ?
[08:16] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, well regaurdless there should be a fall back to force an unmount when its unplugged just to keep things cleaned up.
[08:16] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: you can try parcelite
[08:16] <Peddy> If I install nvidia drivers via hardware drivers (jockey), are these drivers are called 'binary drivers'?
[08:16] <Zorbinski> I am trying to sftp into a web server using filezilla
[08:16] <ziroday> Zorbinski: right, and your problem is?
[08:16] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, if you unplug it the OS won't know till after and can't fix it
[08:17] <DigitalFiz> Zorbinski, sftp will only work if the server allows ssh
[08:17] <Zorbinski> I have no clue what to do with the key that I have, do I need to do something in the command line?
[08:17] <histo> Zorbinski: you don't need the key right now.
[08:17] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, a simple monitor probably the same one that makes it mount the drive when its plugged in will probably work just as well for when its unplugged
[08:17] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, I know of no psychic OS's
[08:17] <Zorbinski> it does I am in via ssh right now
[08:18] <ubuntu> hi
[08:18] <Zorbinski> okay so how do I upload to the server then?
[08:18] <Mr_Fixit> if i creat a new user they automatically have SSH access right?
[08:19] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, i do know that when i unplug a usb drive in osx which is *nix it gets auto unmounted same as when its plugged in this is why im confused the same techniques haven't been implemented in linux
[08:19] <DigitalFiz> same in windows
[08:19] <bhooz> ?
[08:20] <bhooz> 说话
[08:20] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, might get unmounted, but definitely not cleaning (all the time)
[08:20] <DistroJockey> cleanly^
[08:20] <DigitalFiz> eh if its unplugged anyways does it matter what the os does afterwards?
[08:20] <ubuntu> hello
[08:21] <bhooz> hello
[08:21] <bsusa> hello all
[08:21] <ubuntu> hi bhooz
[08:21] <ng0n> hiya
[08:21] <predator363> hey +1 seems dead does wine not work in intrepid well yet?
[08:21] <ziroday> Mr_Fixit: yes
[08:22] <ubuntu> any body know about openmosix?
[08:22] <ziroday> predator363: just wait in +1
[08:22] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, my only problem is how its handled when the dirty deed is done, after the drive is unplugged the os should do some clean up work with the dead mount, i know it cant do anything about the dirty drive but at least clean up the mess after
[08:23] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, ahh, ok, I see your point now and agree.
[08:23] <RanyAlbeg> sry
[08:23] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, a red one?
[08:23] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: it worked :)
[08:23] <bhooz> ？
[08:23] <bhooz> dd
[08:23] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: also see http://www.getdeb.net/app/Parcellite to get easy to install packages for parcel lite
[08:23] <JackWinter> what ftp server would you reccomend (for occasional xfers with friends)
[08:23] <ziroday> bhooz: do you have a question?
[08:24] <ziroday> !best > JackWinter
[08:24] <bsusa> im having a little trouble installing flash on Ubuntu 8.04.1, when i go to YouTube it says that Flash or java is turned is please install by clicking on this link. I click on it then it takes me to the adobe website, i download the deb version of flash player plugin then install it, i close off firefox then re open it and it still says it not installed. Could someone help me please?
[08:24] <ziroday> JackWinter: and I use vsftpd :)
[08:24] <ubuntu_todd> how to play aspx radio in ubuntu??
[08:24] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, if i want to apt-get it from terminal ?
[08:24] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, just pulled a usb flash out of my system without unmounting and it removed it from the desktop
[08:24] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, i thing the main problem with it right now is the common response is "you should unmount your drives" and thats how its handled maybe ill look into making a fix myself :P probably just gonna be a simple script
[08:24] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, how do i search for the name of the package?
[08:24] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: you can't as there is currently no packages in the repo yet
[08:24] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, it does it sometimes but not always thats whats weird
[08:25] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, i see
[08:25] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: you have to use the packages from http://www.getdeb.net/app/Parcellite
[08:25] <ziroday> bsusa: sure, open up a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:25] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, and then use ' make install' or something?
[08:25] <hasan> sdfsfesf
[08:25] <hasan> dfsadfw
[08:25] <user_> Is it ok to ask question about procmail and postfix here?
[08:25] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, I'm am running a partially patched version of 8.10 beta atm though.
[08:26] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: no just download the file and double click on it
[08:26] <DigitalFiz> ah ok
[08:26] <DigitalFiz> maybe they are working on fixing it
[08:26] <DistroJockey> maybe
[08:26] <ziroday> user_: not really, its better suited for #postfix
[08:26] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, ok i'll try that , thanks
[08:26] <JackWinter> ziroday: it's not so much that i want the best :), but since it's not really a fulltime server i'm considering something in userspace.  i'll have a look at vsftpd in any case.  just hoped that some people had been through the sorting process and could saave me some time :)
[08:26] <user_> ziroday: thank you i'll ask there
[08:26] <ziroday> JackWinter: I understand completely where you are coming from :)
[08:27] <ubuntu_todd> Hi.
[08:27] <qstnn> Hi.
[08:27] <DigitalFiz> DistroJockey, i cant wait for the stable release of 8.10
[08:28] <alexcore> how can i  connect virtualbox with ubuntu, i mean, one folder
[08:28] <DistroJockey> DigitalFiz, me niether (only 6 days to go) so I got 8.10-RC today :)
[08:28] <qstnn> Does anyone know about a complete, stable, polished, minimalistic dark gtk 2.x theme? Better if it uses just grey and black and white.
[08:29] <DigitalFiz> nice
[08:29] <swuboo> I always grab the RC the week before the stable release---really cuts down on upgrade time.  First few days after the release are a nightmare in terms of download rates.
[08:29] <ziroday> qstnn: you can try the one in intrepid
[08:30] <qstnn> ziroday: It is called dust I think. I already have it. Don't like it.
[08:30] <RanyAlbeg> ziroday, it works i appreciate your help.
[08:30] <qstnn> swuboo: Or you could patiently wait and cut on the fanboyism.
[08:30] <ziroday> qstnn: no there is a different one besides dust, called dark room. Lemme get the link for you
[08:30] <ziroday> RanyAlbeg: no problem, have fun!
[08:30] <andrboot> Hi; i know that ubuntu 8.l10 isn't support but i'd though i'd ask,. i am running a fresh install of ubuntu 8.1064bit.. for some reason my mouse keeps on going skitz in the middle of the screens (dual screen) any ideas?
[08:30] <DistroJockey> qstnn, ziroday : DarkRoom or new human are intrepid related I believe
[08:30] <halberd> is there any way of getting higher terminal text mode resolutions?
[08:30] <ziroday> andrboot: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:31] <snoopy_> hey
[08:31] <halberd> i mean much higher
[08:31] <ziroday> DistroJockey: you can get them from kwwii ppa
[08:31] <qstnn> ziroday: It is got to be on gnome-look, right?
[08:31] <halberd> smaller font than size 8
[08:31] <andrboot> kk
[08:31] <ziroday> qstnn: no, its an ubuntu package
[08:31] <rww> Hi! How do I hide join/part messages in Pidgin on Ubuntu?
[08:31] <ziroday> qstnn: you need to add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive
[08:31] <DigitalFiz> rww, #pidgin
[08:32] <rww> wait, nvm, i figured it out... wasn't looking in the right place :(
[08:33] <qstnn> ziroday: Which package? community themes?
[08:34] <snoopik> whats up?
[08:34] <swuboo> qstnn:  I could patiently wait, but this is A: my only computer and B: losing it for a day to upgrade when it's not necessary is a bad idea.
[08:35] <qstnn> swuboo: All I am saying is you will have to spend time anyday to upgrade, how about waiting for somedays after a couple of people have gone through the tears.
[08:36] <swuboo> qstnn:  I've already done it, actually.  I find it to be somewhat more stable.  The logout applet doesn't crash X, and flash is actually borderline reliable.
[08:37] <ziroday> qstnn: human-theme iirc
[08:38] <qstnn> ziroday: thank you.
[08:39] <qstnn> swuboo: It is just that everytime I get excited about ubuntu I end up in tears. So I have become a bit cynical.
[08:39] <swuboo> halberd:  If you go to Profile Preferences in the Gnome terminal; you can reduce the font size as far as 6 point.
[08:39] <bsusa> ziroday: thanks, just one other thing now, whenever i playback streams on youtube then press fullscreen it closes to normal screen straight away. Any ideas please?
[08:40] <ziroday> bsusa: no idea sorry, just try not to press and buttons
[08:40] <halberd> swuboo: ah not gnome, the tty
[08:40] <swuboo> qstnn:  I quite sympathize.  This is the first painless upgrade I've had in years.
[08:40] <halberd> I tried font size 8 but it looked terrible, it was squashed vertically but not horizontally
[08:40] <bsusa> could compiz affect it
[08:41] <swuboo> halberd:  Do you mean the tty without X running, or just a regular terminal window?
[08:41] <halberd> without X
[08:42] <rww> anyone have any recommendations for a decent graphics card that supports 3d acceleration in ubuntu?
[08:42] <swuboo> halberd:  Ah, then I'm honestly not sure.
[08:42] <ziroday> bsusa: doubt it, you can always try without
[08:42] <DigitalFiz> rww, nvidia with restricted drivers :)
[08:42] <[mbm]> rww: not ati
[08:43] <jim_p> does anyone know the name of the iconset on the screenshot on this post? http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5691339&postcount=3420
[08:43] <ziroday> rww: the latest ati cards are meant to have great support
[08:43] <rww> [mbm]: yeah, I have a Radeon HD 3450 right now, and it's not doing the 3d thing at all :(
[08:43] <[mbm]> ziroday: lies. the fglrx driver is buggy as hell
[08:43] <jim_p> rww: i have an 3850, can i help?
[08:44] <bahaa2008> hi guys
[08:44] <procrastination> can i summon somebody to help me with a nfs share problem...server is ubuntu....client is debian
[08:44] <bahaa2008> i moved from wubi to real partaions
[08:44] <ziroday> jim_p: it looks like the normal iconset with a couple of customized ones
[08:44] <bahaa2008> and i need to set the boot
[08:44] <kc8pxy_> [mbm]: he did say "meant to"
[08:44] <bahaa2008> and fstab
[08:45] <[mbm]> rww: nvidia is probably the way to go; proprietary driver installs without hassle and everything just works
[08:45] <jim_p> ziroday: well the computer and the drive icons are awesome
[08:45] <extor> I did an apt-cdrom add but it said it failed to mount the cdrom...however I already have the cdrom mounted. I am running in vmware btw
[08:45] <jim_p> procrastination: can you be more specific
[08:46] <jim_p> extor: try to run apt-cdrom with the cdrom unmounted
[08:46] <ziroday> [mbm]: see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_evolution&num=1
[08:46] <Aaqil> how to open flash player properties so i can allow some site to be blocked in flash loading?
[08:46] <rww> jim_p: which driver are you using? You have an rv670 chipset and I have an rv620, but maybe the configuration's similar.
[08:46] <procrastination> certainly jm p: when i try to mount the nfs share on the debian client computer i get failed reason given by server...permission denied
[08:46] <ziroday> rww: are you using hardy?
[08:46] <jim_p> rww: fglrx from the repos
[08:46] <CowzRule> ~()}:0=
[08:46] <swuboo> halberd: A little googling suggests adding a "vga=" line to grub; you'd need to find out the correct number to set vga to equal for the resolution you want.  If you haven't tried this, yes.
[08:46] <bahaa2008> any help
[08:47] <rww> jim_p: any recommendations on xorg.conf? or should I just leave it at the default?
[08:47] <jim_p> bahaa2008: post the current fdisk -l and fstab somewhere
[08:47] <[mbm]> ziroday: that's BS. I have a radeon hd card - the drivers are crap.
[08:47] <procrastination> jim_p: i can give you the export file on the ubuntu server if you would like
[08:47] <jim_p> rww: http://7g.pri.ee/mine.conf
[08:47] <Aaqil> when i will get firefox in ubuntu without the problem of right click? of it do the things with right click in ff
[08:47] <rww> ziroday: intrepid, but it didn't do 3d accel on hardy either, iirc
[08:47] <ziroday> [mbm]: other people have had very different stories, anyway not going to get into a war
[08:48] <extor> jim_p, had to trick it by mounting it in another tty just before hitting enter
[08:48] <DIFH-iceroot> !nopaste
[08:48] <rww> jim_p: thanks :). i'll do some more poking around and see if I can get things going
[08:48] <DIFH-iceroot> !cp
[08:48] <[mbm]> ziroday: install fglrx (the ati binary) and run mythtv .. screen becomes compeltely corrupted :/
[08:48] <ziroday> !msgthebot | DIFH-iceroot
[08:48] <jim_p> rww: fglrx is known to have problems with xorg v1.5 that ibex has :( this is the reason i wont upgrade to it
[08:49] <rww> jim_p: ah, i see...
[08:49] <ziroday> rww: you should be asking intrepid questions in #ubuntu+1 as iirc there are still some ati problems
[08:49] <[mbm]> jim_p: they've got it now so it loads, but it's still as buggy as ever
[08:49] <jim_p> [mbm] so its up to no use, i wont upgrade
[08:50] <Aaqil> i am unable to uninstall any addon in my firefox.. the uninstall buttons are inactive
[08:50] <[mbm]> the opensource radeonhd driver is coming along nicely but they haven't merged the hdmi audio support yet so it's a pain to manually patch support in
[08:51] <Billy> Hey there!
[08:51] <Billy> Quick question for the wise
[08:51] <Aaqil> Billy: hello
[08:51] <Billy> Does anybody know if xchat can be ran in terminal?
[08:51] <jim_p> [mdm] i have uses the radeonhd driver and its 3d performance is pathetic. like 1/5 of fglrx
[08:51] <[mbm]> Billy: irssi
[08:52] <Billy> is that a different IRC client?
[08:52] <bahaa2008> jim_p, what is fdisk -l   ??
[08:52] <[mbm]> Billy: yes.
[08:52] <Billy> just: sudo apt-get install irssi?
[08:52] <DistroJockey> bahaa2008, sudo fdisk -l   will list all detected disks and partitions
[08:52] <bahaa2008> jim_p, here is the fstab http://home.bahaa.biz/prob/fstab
[08:53] <jim_p> bahaa2008: fdisk -l lists the drives and their partitions
[08:53] <jim_p> Billy: there is also bitchx if you want a gui-less client
[08:53] <Billy> I'm downloading irssi in terminal right now.
[08:54] <Billy> Does it use the same chat servers?
[08:54] <bahaa2008> jim_p, here is the fdisk http://home.bahaa.biz/prob/fdisk
[08:55] <jim_p> bahaa2008: wait
[08:55] <Aaqil> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/239253
[08:55] <bahaa2008> i created the sda7,sda8,sda9 to move the wubi partations to them
[08:56] <writing> How do I define something with make
[08:56] <writing> ie gcc -DWAL_DEBUG
[08:56] <writing> make WAL_DEBUG?
[08:57] <blackZero> hello fellas
[08:58] <Billy> How much experience do you have with irssi?
[08:58] <Aaqil> I got it :D http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=607861
[08:58] <jaem> hello
[08:58] <jaem> I've got a question for all present...
[08:59] <jim_p> bahaa2008: do you need all the drives in fstab?
[08:59] <jaem> I just picked up a (free) second monitor, but its resolution is grossly different than my primary monitor's, so it's not much use for dual-head...
[08:59] <jaem> is there a way I can run a tty on the smaller LCD, and keep X running on the larger one?
[09:00] <bahaa2008> jim_p, why ?
[09:00] <bahaa2008> jim_p, my main problem with the boot
[09:01] <bahaa2008> jim_p, the is my menu.lst
[09:01] <ndo> guys, how do you make AWN start automatic, when you bootup?:)
[09:01] <writing> how do I set macro defines with make
[09:01] <bahaa2008> jim_p, http://home.bahaa.biz/prob/menu.lst
[09:01] <jim_p> bahaa2008: well you have like 7 partitions there and i dont know what the cdrom drive is
[09:01] <bahaa2008> jim_p, i don't have cdrom :)
[09:02] <jim_p> :|
[09:02] <jim_p> ok wait
[09:02] <bahaa2008> jim_p, this is windows drives
[09:02] <bahaa2008>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:02] <bahaa2008> /dev/sda1   *           1         914     7341673+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:02] <bahaa2008> /dev/sda2             915        9729    70806487+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:02] <bahaa2008> /dev/sda5             915        5321    35399196    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:02] <bahaa2008> /dev/sda6            5322        8317    24065338+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:02] <FloodBot1> bahaa2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <jim_p> bahaa2008: i will send you the files when i am done ok?
[09:03] <bahaa2008> jim_p, OK
[09:03] <Rolaulten> Hello, trying to get a massive music library running nice and clean in hardy (looking at raw disk space in the range of 4 terabites) The issues is that useing win media player the ablum tags work just fine, however on the ubuntu boot rhymbox, ammok and songbird (the three media players that have been tried so far) are not understanding the tags associated with the music files making the library a mess to navigate...
[09:05] <jim_p> Rolaulten: look for a similar amarok plugin for that job
[09:05] <ziroday> Rolanditu: are the tags id3 tags?
[09:05] <Rolaulten> jim_[: something to understand wma file formats?
[09:05] <kantor> hi, intrepid is a LTS release ?
[09:05] <blue-frog> no
[09:05] <ziroday> kantor: nope
[09:06] <kantor> then hardy is LTS, no  ?
[09:06] <blue-frog> yes
[09:06] <jaem> any ideas on the dual-monitor question?  (I know it's rather unconventional)
[09:06] <Rolaulten> jim_p: and also can you point me to were to look? or just the amark site have something that will work?
[09:06] <DIFH-iceroot> kantor: hardy is LTS
[09:06] <swuboo> kantor:  Yes, Hardy is LTS.
[09:06] <kantor> ok thanks
[09:08] <fedaykin_> !
[09:08] <jim_p> Rolaulten: sorry, i dont use amarok. but i know there are amarok scripts for everything. start at kde-look.org
[09:08] <jim_p> bahaa2008: linux is on sda7
[09:08] <jim_p> ?
[09:08] <bahaa2008> yep
[09:09] <Rolaulten> jim_p: thanks,,,and the scrips will work with the gnome frontend? I dont use amarok but am trying to help a friend get his system running ubuntu.
[09:09] <Rolaulten> jim_p: and the media tags have been the one issue
[09:09] <jim_p> Rolaulten: scripts work only with amarok, no matter the desktop enviroment
[09:10] <Rolaulten> jim_p: cool thanks!
[09:10] <jim_p> Rolaulten: http://www.kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=56
[09:11] <fedaykin_> hola. maybe the q is stupid, is there any possibilities in ubuntu, to save n create a boot-cd with the already installed applications and programs, with the background and everything else?
[09:11] <jim_p> bahaa2008: what is this ? UNetbootin-partitionmanagerrev146
[09:12] <jim_p> !remaster | fedaykin_
[09:12] <bahaa2008> this a partaion manager
[09:12] <blue-frog> fedaykin_: you can customize the livecd
[09:12] <bahaa2008> jim_p
[09:12] <jim_p> bahaa2008: do you need that entry in fstab?
[09:12] <fedaykin_> loving you guys!
[09:12] <fedaykin_> kisses
[09:12] <jim_p> bahaa2008: i mean in menu.lst
[09:13] <bahaa2008> no prob
[09:13] <bahaa2008> it's not that importance
[09:13] <jim_p> bahaa2008: can i comment it out?
[09:13] <bahaa2008> no prob
[09:13] <jim_p> ok
[09:13] <bahaa2008> i'll make it later
[09:14] <bahaa2008> i just wanna to understand what you are doing
[09:15] <hotmonkeyluv> can I use xmms plugins with rythymbox?
[09:16] <ziroday> hotmonkeyluv: nope, what are you trying to do?
[09:17] <hotmonkeyluv> ziroday:  I'm trying to get that cool alarm clock that fades in a certain playlist from 0 to 100% volume at a certain time. ever since they took xmms out of the repos i've been sad, but now i'm mad that I can't have an awesome alarmclock
[09:17] <jim_p> bahaa2008: you will need to make directories for the mountpoints of the ntfs partitions ok? i will "make" them like /mnt/sda1 /mnt/sda2 /mnt/sda3
[09:17] <ziroday> hotmonkeyluv: I believe xmms plugins are compatible with audacious (not sure though) and iirc amarok has a similar plugin
[09:18] <Johbe> Hello, anyone use vpnc alot?
[09:18] <bahaa2008> jim_p
[09:18] <hotmonkeyluv> ziroday:  yeah, but I really love rythymbox b/c the multimedia buttons on my lappy work with it, and not with any other one i've tried
[09:18] <jim_p> bahaa2008: yes...?
[09:18] <hotmonkeyluv> !anyone | Johbe
[09:18] <bahaa2008> jim_p i just need linux partations
[09:19] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | Johbe
[09:19] <hotmonkeyluv> DIFH-iceroot:  beat you to it!
[09:19] <jim_p> bahaa2008: only these? done then
[09:19] <bahaa2008> the other will be mounted on need
[09:19] <bahaa2008> nice
[09:19] <bahaa2008> give it to me
[09:20] <ziroday> hotmonkeyluv: you can always talk to the rhythmbox developers about your suggestions :)
[09:20] <TarBar> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my imac g3, i insert the disc i just burnt and turn it on it makes some noises then spits it out. Anything i should be pressing or something?
[09:20] <ziroday> TarBar: is your imac a ppc one?
[09:20] <hotmonkeyluv> ziroday:  yeah, but that's too much work ;)
[09:21] <TarBar> ziroday, i believe it is a ppc one its about 7-8 years old. i have downloaded 6.06.1 alternate ppc though
[09:22] <ziroday> TarBar: ah, I was about to recommend use the ppc disk. Thats all I had sorry
[09:22] <TarBar> =/
[09:22] <guyvdb_> TarBar you have been going at that for a couple of days now
[09:22] <fqh> Anyone familiar with mutt?
[09:22] <ziroday> !anyone > fqh
[09:22] <fqh> http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/10143  How to remove "reply-to" in the mail head?
[09:22] <Frogzoo_> people still use mutt? crikey
[09:23] <ziroday> fqh: and its probably best to ask in mutt's irc room
[09:23] <JakeConnor> if i move my svn repo from one server to another that has a different ip address but i point the same domain and keep the urls the exact same then will svn keep on working to all my users transparently or would they still need to check everything out again because its on a different server?
[09:23] <DigitalFiz> !anyone > DigitalFiz
[09:23] <[mbm]> Frogzoo_: what's wrong with mutt?
[09:23] <ziroday> fqh: ask in #mutt
[09:23] <pogztimz> hi, i've recently installed ubuntu 8.04 server and i'm a complete noob. my question si how can i view web pages in CLI?
[09:23] <Frogzoo_> [mbm]: nothing, I'm a big fan of cli, but don't use it for mail personally (too much damn html)
[09:23] <[mbm]> pogztimz: w3m
[09:24] <jaem> or lynx/links
[09:24] <hateball> pogztimz» or with lynx
[09:24] <jaem> your preference
[09:24] <dli> pogi_daw2, or, run firefox by X-window
[09:24] <dli> pogztimz,  or, run firefox by X-window
[09:24] <pogztimz> [mbm]: can i sudo apt-get install w3m?
[09:24] <[mbm]> Frogzoo_: that just makes it easier - if it's html it goes in the spam filter
[09:25] <jaem> pogztimz: sure, if it's in the repositories (should be)
[09:25] <NET||abuse> hi all, i want to load up podcasts on my iphone with linux, i installed ipod-convenience, but it's not working,
[09:25] <jaem> check Synaptic, if that's easier
[09:25] <pogztimz> jaem: ic.. ty
[09:25] <ml> TarBar try holding down C key at boot
[09:25] <pogztimz> hateball and [mbm]: ty also
[09:25] <NET||abuse> anyone know how to use iphone with linux? the 3G .
[09:25] <Frogzoo_> [mbm]: :)
[09:25] <aHua>  iphone with linux? ????
[09:25] <LV> why not, sounds fun
[09:25] <jaem> wouldn't that make the Universe explode, or something? :P
[09:26] <LV> do iphones have bluetooth?
[09:26] <ml> lol
[09:26] <[mbm]> LV: yes
[09:26] <NET||abuse> I try aHua, jaem: I know, I use da iPhone so i must hate freedom!
[09:27] <jaem> NET||abuse: I didn't mean that - I was just kidding around
[09:27] <NET||abuse> LV: ugh,, iphone bluetooth is some kind of cruel joke.
[09:27] <pogztimz> anyone here familiar with ebox platform?
[09:27]  * jaem has tried iPhone bluetooth, and it fails
[09:27] <NET||abuse> jaem: hehe, i was being self deprecating.. :) I hate apple in it's various anti freedom attitudes.. but theiphohe is nice.
[09:27] <TarBar> ml, i hold down c but all i get is a grey screen
[09:27] <sharp_eyes> hi how are u all
[09:27] <LV> well I have treo650 bluetooth ... that sucks mightily as well
[09:27] <jaem> it's purty... and has  nice GUI...
[09:28] <jaem> I have N810 BT, and it wins
[09:28] <rww> jim_p: with a little help from your xorg.conf, I got my ati card working! thanks :D
[09:28] <NET||abuse> LV: jaem: the bluetooth on iphone is intentionally crippled.
[09:28] <fedaykin_> good q ahead: is there any itunes alternative for ubuntu?
[09:28] <jaem> plenty
[09:28] <DigitalFiz> NET||abuse, the only reason i can see that ipod-convenience wouldnt be working is your iphone has to be jail broken and an sshd must be running on it
[09:28] <fedaykin_> to sync music with ipod
[09:28] <jaem> if you like iTunes, you could try Songbird, but it's still in Beta
[09:29] <jaem> oh... Songbird doesn't synce with some recent ones, last I checked
[09:29] <jaem> but if you just want to sync, I think Amarok and Rythmbox have decent support
[09:29]  * jaem hasn't tried
[09:29] <ml> TarBar :(
[09:29] <fedaykin_> jaem: i ll try amarok then =)
[09:29] <TarBar> hmm
[09:29] <NET||abuse> DigitalFiz: oh bugger and didley,
[09:29] <DigitalFiz> they both require a jail broken ipod/ipone
[09:29] <TarBar> i will try check the md5 sums or whatever then re burn the thing
[09:29] <fedaykin_> jaem: thx =)
[09:29] <TarBar> it was writing at 25* lol
[09:30] <ml> try a slower speed
[09:30] <jaem> fedaykin: give Songbird a look, too, though - once it's out of beta, it'll be nice.  sort of an iTunes-ish browser/player mashup
[09:30] <jaem> it's Mozilla-based
[09:30] <ml> and check the md5
[09:30] <jokeusa> Peeps - does the latest Dansguardian have built-in Clamav?
[09:30] <TarBar> yeah
[09:30] <jim_p> rww: in ibex :O ?
[09:30] <DigitalFiz> jaek, amarok requires the ipod/iphone to be jail broken and sshd to be running so it can mount the ipod with sshfs
[09:30] <ml> I installed it on g5
[09:30] <rww> jim_p: yeah :)
[09:30] <fedaykin_> jaem: yea but i badly need sync support
[09:31] <jokeusa> TarBar - its integrated with DG already? or do i have to configure it so it runs with DG?
[09:31] <rww> jim_p: an update to fglrx got pushed through while i was fiddling with it, which may have helped
[09:31] <jaem> DigitalFiz: didn't know that - thanks.  I was actually referring to version < iPod Touch/iPhone
[09:31] <TarBar> DG?
[09:32] <jokeusa> Ah wait, « TarBar » yeah was to me?
[09:32] <TarBar> to ml lol
[09:32] <jokeusa> wops :P
[09:32] <ml> DG?
[09:32] <ml> lol
[09:32] <jim_p> rww: and now you have fglrx in 8.10 with 3d acceleration?
[09:33] <jaem> not according to ATI's website
[09:33] <jaem> it's still for X <=7.3
[09:33] <jokeusa> Peeps - does the latest Dansguardian have built-in Clamav?
[09:33] <rww> jim_p: fglrx loaded according to the Xorg log, and I just loaded up compiz w/o problems, so I'm gonna go with yeah
[09:34] <rww> jim_p: any tests you want me to do to confirm?
[09:34] <jaem> huh
[09:34] <jim_p> rww: glxgears
[09:34] <ubuntu_todd> when I use realplay11gold to play internet radio, there comes out this error message: text/html;charset=utf-8
[09:34] <[mbm]> rww: glxinfo
[09:34] <[mbm]> look for direct render
[09:35] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got some bash scripts, at the moment theyre in /home/  my /home/ is getting messy, wheres the best place to put them? is there like a recommended usual location?
[09:35] <rww> jim_p: glxgears outputs high FPS (>600), and works (occasional flickers
[09:35] <jim_p> rww: ok
[09:35] <rww> [mbm]: direct rendering: Yes
[09:35] <skurakai1> hi i have trouble /.configure createtorrent - "checking for SHA1 in -lssl... no | configure: error: error, OpenSSL required"
[09:35] <ubuntu_todd> The same when I use rhythmbox to play radio which says no text/html plug in. How could I fix it?
[09:35] <skurakai1> know someone which package i need?
[09:36] <jim_p> rww: i dont want to start on fglrx flaws now
[09:36] <jaem> ubuntu_todd: what is the radio URL you're using?
[09:36] <ubuntu_todd> http://www.c-span.org/Listen/C-SPAN-Radio_rm.aspx
[09:36] <jaem> that's the web page
[09:36] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: radio from c-span
[09:37] <jaem> ergo the text/html - it /is/ html
[09:37] <ubuntu_todd> jaem:?
[09:37] <jaem> you need the link to the actual stream
[09:37] <jaem> give me a sec
[09:38] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: great thanks in advance, I spent whole night to this. I wanner listen to the radio to know some news
[09:38] <hotmonkeyluv> i'm trying to install a plugin for audacious (xmms alarm), and i need glib, but I can't install it, and it's not in the repo's (I have a 64 bit system) what can I do?
[09:38] <jaem> well, first of all, these are video streams, so internet radio won't work for the links on that page
[09:38] <[mbm]> jaem: they do a stupid user agent switching trick
[09:38] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: that one is radio not video.
[09:38] <jaem> sorry - I don't see a radio link
[09:39] <skurakai1> checking for SHA1 in -lssl... no | configure: error: error, OpenSSL required - know someone which package need?
[09:39] <jaem> mbm: are you saying I should switch my UA to see what ubuntu_todd is seeing?
[09:40]  * jaem is stupid
[09:40] <jaem> sorry
[09:40]  * jaem understands now
[09:41] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: I am not sure is that one is radio or video. But I guess it is radio and it uses realplay to broadcast
[09:41] <jim_p> vbox 2.04 is out
[09:41] <Sammy> hi..all
[09:41] <jaem> yeah... I just missed the obvious
[09:42] <ml> hello
[09:43] <jaem> ubuntu_todd: sorry - I don't have RealPlayer installed, and I don't want to have it installed... here's the basics, though
[09:43] <jaem> they don't provide a direct link... so you have to find it
[09:44] <jaem> load the RealAudio radio page, right-click, and select "view source"
[09:44] <jaem> scratch that
[09:44] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: Do you have rhythmbox, could you use that to listen to the radio?
[09:44] <[mbm]> jaem: the aspx url is correct, but the server will spit out html if it doesn't think the client is the correct player
[09:44] <jaem> sorry... give me a sec - I'm overtired
[09:44] <jaem> yeah.. got that
[09:45] <thiebaude> ubuntu_todd:you trying to listen to internet radio?
[09:45] <jaem> I'm just trying to figure out the easiest way of explaining how to grab the actual URL
[09:45] <thiebaude> copy and paste
[09:45] <ubuntu_todd> yes. That is http://www.c-span.org/Listen/C-SPAN-Radio_rm.aspx or http://www.c-span.org/Listen/C-SPAN-Radio_wm.aspx
[09:45] <jaem> I was looking for the RM URL
[09:45] <jaem> or maybe I'm missing something
[09:46] <ubuntu_todd> I have vlc, mplayer, realplay, rhymbox installed, now I just wanner listen to the cspan radio
[09:46] <thiebaude> ubuntu_todd:you got mplayer?
[09:46] <ubuntu_todd> thiebaude: It doesn't work.
[09:47] <jaem> ubuntu_todd: try this: http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/realaudio/cspan4db.asf
[09:47] <thiebaude> ubuntu_todd:you tried the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[09:47] <jaem> that *should* be the actual audio stream URL
[09:48] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[09:48] <jaem> ><
[09:48] <jaem> it loads in FF for me, but I don't think I have the plugin
[09:48] <thiebaude> cspan loads, but buffers and takes a long time
[09:49] <thiebaude> cspan isn't working for me, i wonder if its their server
[09:50] <ubuntu_todd> thiebaude:  can't resolve name for af-inet6: play.rbn.com
[09:50] <jaem> the URL appears to be valid, but it isn't loading for me either
[09:50] <jaem> it seems to buffer in FF, but Rythmbox throws up errors
[09:51] <ubuntu_todd> Yes, I don't know why, I have tried many player but no hope
[09:51] <jaem> sorry... I don't know what to say
[09:51] <thiebaude> but mplayer does work for me all the time
[09:52] <[mbm]> ubuntu_todd: mplayer -playlist http://...
[09:52] <thiebaude> for me i would say its the cspan site
[09:52] <[mbm]> ah, you've already done that
[09:52] <predator363> how can i remove the new wine put the old 1.0 back on?
[09:53] <jaem> sudo apt-get remove wine
[09:53] <jaem> then find the old .deb, and manually install ity
[09:53] <jaem> that's probably easier
[09:53] <thiebaude> predator:sudo apt-get remove program name
[09:53] <ubuntu_todd> [mbm]:  have you tried the radio link?
[09:54] <[mbm]> ubuntu_todd: nope
[09:54] <predator363> thx all and puting an older wine back on?
[09:56] <piko_water> is there any program similar like vmware for ubuntu ?
[09:56] <jim_p> can i use wget through telnet?
[09:56] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: when I right click , there is no source location. How to find source?
[09:57] <jaem> right-click on the page itself
[09:57] <jim_p> piko_water: virtualbox or qemu + some frontend
[09:57] <TarBar> I'm setting up ubuntu on my imac g3 it asks for my ip address. It is a dynamic ip what should i type?
[09:57] <ubuntu_todd> piko_water: virtubox
[09:57] <jaem> then find the realaudio address
[09:57] <jaem> as I said, I don't have it installed, and the website is stupid, so I can't help you much more than that
[09:57] <jaem> but it should look something like the URL I gave you
[09:57] <jim_p> piko_water: what cpu are you on? qemu loads a cpu specific module
[09:57] <jaem> if what I gave you is wrong (I don't know)
[09:58] <predator363> actualy think ill try the newest pre relese
[09:58] <piko_water> jim_p, let me check the spec
[09:58] <ubuntu_todd> piko_water:  go to #vbox.
[09:58] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | piko_water
[09:58] <AussieGuy> hi, im trying to set up port forwarding one port to another port on a single machine and its not working
[09:58] <AussieGuy> robbie@r220-101-88-34:~$ sudo iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --dport 54402 -j REDIRECT --to-port 54401 # robbie@r220-101-88-34:~$ telnet localhost 54402 # telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused robbie@r220-101-88-34:~$ telnet localhost 54401 # Connected to localhost.
[09:59] <Kartagis> why does vim give me conversion error and what can i do about it?
[09:59] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: You already help a lot. ;)
[09:59] <piko_water> jim_p, how do you normally check the computer spec. from command prompt ?
[09:59] <ml> TarBar no option for dhcp
[09:59] <jaem> ubuntu_todd: no problem!
[09:59] <jim_p> piko_water: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:59]  * jaem is frustrated with X
[09:59] <ubuntu_todd> piko_water: hardware? lshw
[09:59] <jim_p> piko_water: look at model name
[10:00] <TarBar> nvm i just skipped it
[10:00] <jaem> does anyone have any idea how to configure two different-sized monitors for dual-head with an ATI 9700 Pro, on Intrepid?
[10:00] <jaem> because I sure don't
[10:00] <jim_p> Kartagis: use nano
[10:00] <piko_water> jim_p, Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.40GHz
[10:00] <jim_p> piko_water: let me ask intel
[10:01] <jim_p> piko_water: what does this return ? cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags
[10:02] <predator363> oh i was using the pre release ...maybe that was the problem
[10:02] <filosoff> Есть русско пишушие?
[10:02] <piko_water> jim_p, flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts sync_rdtsc cid xtpr
[10:02] <filosoff> Ж)
[10:02] <jim_p> !ru
[10:02] <piko_water> jim_p, i have no idea what does it means ?
[10:03] <[mbm]> piko_water: what ware you trying to find out?
[10:03] <BUCEK> K
[10:03] <The_Dr> Hi, I installed grub to the win xp boot partiton by mistake through setup(hd0,0). I repaired Windows, but now Grub will not boot it. I get disk error, press any key to restart.
[10:04] <jim_p> piko_water: this means that qemu wont be able to load its module because of the cpu you have. nevermind though. use virtualbox
[10:04] <jokeusa> Hi, Q: does the latest Dansguardian have built-in Clamav?
[10:05] <piko_water> jim_p, virtualbox so i can grab  it via apt-get  or i need to download from google
[10:05] <ubuntu_todd> jaem:It works after I copy rtsp://video1.c-span.org/archive/c08/c08_102308_joel.rm to realplay
[10:05] <jaem> ah... okay
[10:05] <jaem> that sounds better
[10:05] <jaem> I was off-base
[10:05] <jim_p> piko_water: qemu + its module = virtualization for pros
[10:05] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: It is video and audio. But it doesn't work under vlc
[10:05] <piko_water> piko_water, i mean what should i do now ?
[10:05] <piko_water> jim_p, i mean what should i do now  ?
[10:05] <stormspinner> hello all
[10:06] <jaem> rww: what was the verdict on fglrx?
[10:06] <jim_p> piko_water: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads follow the instructions here. DO NOT GET THE .deb
[10:06] <stormspinner> I have a problem and wonder if someone can help
[10:06] <predator363> when i sudo aptget remove wine it sais the package does not exsist so it was not removed
[10:06] <stormspinner> its simple...i just cant figure it out
[10:06] <stormspinner> as i am new to linux
[10:06] <jaem> tell us your problem, and we'll see if we can help
[10:06] <jim_p> predator363: well, its not installed then
[10:06] <stormspinner> I have 2 nics and I need to know how to set them up as internal and external
[10:07] <jaem> stormspinner: can you clarify?
[10:07] <stormspinner> as i am going to run untangle
[10:07] <jaem> ah
[10:07] <piko_water> jim_p, you gonna be here if i need any help ?
[10:07] <jim_p> stormspinner: connected on the asme network?
[10:07] <jim_p> piko_water: yes
[10:07] <stormspinner> basically, I have the box between my cable modem and router
[10:07] <predator363> jim_p: then how come i can open it and change settings and what not?
[10:07] <jaem> are you trying to route traffic through the box, then?
[10:07] <jaem> ok
[10:07] <stormspinner> yes
[10:07] <stormspinner> I get then isp add on eth0
[10:07] <stormspinner> but nothing on eth1
[10:08] <jim_p> predator363: install it with the -f option, and remove it afterwards
[10:08] <stormspinner> and my wirelss router cant see anything
[10:08] <predator363> jim_p: k
[10:08] <jaem> stormspinner: I'm not really the guy to talk to about that - does Untangle have a wiki?
[10:08] <jim_p> predator363: sudo apt-get install -f wine
[10:08] <ubuntu_todd> jaem: Only works under realplay. mplay, vlc,rhythmbox do not work.
[10:08] <jaem> ok - thanks for the info
[10:08] <stormspinner> nope.
[10:09] <stormspinner> at least nothing that helps
[10:09] <jaem> have you already installed it?
[10:09] <koshari> ubuntu_todd its not a ream media file is it?
[10:09] <koshari> real
[10:09] <stormspinner> almost
[10:09] <predator363> jim_p: then what just remove? (sudo apt-get remove wine)
[10:09] <piko_water> jim_p, if i choose the ubuntu8.04 it will download the .deb file, as you mentioned that i should not download the debian
[10:09] <stormspinner> i can try to finish the isntall and see if it configures them
[10:09] <jaem> I haven't tried Untangle (thought about it), but I would imagine that it would configure that itself, or at least guide you through it
[10:09] <jaem> sure
[10:09] <stormspinner> kk
[10:09] <jim_p> predator363: sudo apt-get autoremove wine --purge
[10:10] <stormspinner> ill redo it then
[10:10] <stormspinner> thanks
[10:10] <ubuntu_todd> koshari: It is .rm
[10:10] <ubuntufan> #help
[10:10] <predator363> jim_p: k
[10:10] <jim_p> piko_water: do not download ANY .deb
[10:10] <jim_p> piko_water: follow the instructions ytere
[10:10] <pw-toxic> can i add a newsgroup in my evolution mail client?
[10:10] <ubuntufan> 请问大家一下，我装了ubuntu后花屏了，主板是华硕的P5VD2-VM SE 集成显卡，怎么办啊
[10:10] <BUCEK> JEPARA
[10:10] <piko_water> jim_p, those two instructions are just only to add it sources.list
[10:11] <koshari> ubuntu_todd then only real player will play it, rm is a proprietry codec
[10:11] <erki> !english | ubuntufan
[10:11] <predator363> jim_p: awsome it worked .....now to go find the older release of wine
[10:11] <jim_p> piko_water: did you add it there? did you install the verification key as well?
[10:11] <Indoctrine> koshari: There is alternative real player, I'm not sure if it has a Linux version
[10:11] <ubuntu_todd> koshari: But my mplayer can play .rm files
[10:11] <ubuntufan> erki:sorry
[10:11] <jim_p> koshari: helix something is called the alternative
[10:11] <koshari> ubuntu_todd not afaik,
[10:12] <jaem> jim_p: is that FOSS?
[10:12] <jim_p> koshari: in fact, real player is based on helix
[10:12] <ubuntu_todd> ubuntufan: ubuntu-cn
[10:12] <jim_p> jaem: i think so
[10:12] <koshari> jim_p helix is the free licence evrsion of realplayer and that still doesnt play rreal media
[10:12] <zax1> how do i mount a usb pendrive, if its not mounting automaticaly ?
[10:12] <ubuntu_todd> koshari: I think that is not really radio. Maybe it is podcast.
[10:13] <zerothis> I installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.
[10:13] <jaem> zax1: make a directory somewhere...
[10:13] <jim_p> koshari: what media is that that cannot play with mplayer/vlc ? drm protected?
[10:13] <ubuntufan> I installed the ubuntu,but screen is broken
[10:13] <zax1> i can see the usb to ide bridge and the hdd in it, but i dont know how to mount it, its an 175 mb hdd that has win 3.1 on it
[10:13] <jaem> then run sudo mount /dev/whatever-its-called /path/to/folder
[10:13] <pretender>  can anyone advise me what app template is good for DVD Case Covers A4 wrap
[10:13] <koshari> ubuntu_todd: regardless its a real networks file and only real player will play it,
[10:13] <zax1> great will try it,oh by the way i use suse 10, is it the same as ubuntu ?
[10:14] <jaem> zax1: it'll probably be /dev/sd something
[10:14] <jaem> should be, in that respect
[10:14] <jaem> if it's the first pendrive plugged in, it should be the last sd__ in letter order
[10:14] <jim_p> as i said earlier today
[10:14] <jaem> e.g. one HDD: /dev/sdaX, first pendrive: /dev/sdbX
[10:14] <jim_p> now that the download managers are on play :P , which one do you suggest for a gui one?
[10:15] <stef_man> e
[10:15]  * jaem apologizes for his gratuitous use of metasyntactic variables
[10:15] <koshari> ubuntu_todd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealAudio
[10:15] <zax1> thanks will rty all that
[10:15] <piko_water> jim_p, yes it's all done
[10:15] <jaem> zax1: any idea why it isn't automounting?
[10:16] <jim_p> piko_water: well done. you followed the perfect route to its installation
[10:16] <jaem> oh - and you'll have to run sudo umount /path/to/folder before ejecting it
[10:16] <jaem> or bad things will happen :O
[10:16] <ikonia> last curtis
[10:16] <piko_water> jim_p, so now ?
[10:16] <jaem> e.g. if your dog gets eaten, you've gotten off lightly
[10:16] <bouma> is the dictionary in textboxes in firefox part of firefox?? or part of gnome, and how do i remove a word i accidentaly added to this dictionary
[10:16] <stef_man> chelsea zverovi
[10:17] <jim_p> piko_water: not its virtualization time
[10:17] <sudaya> hi buddies, can any one guide me for shrink or split ntfs partition in ubuntu
[10:17] <jim_p> !gparted
[10:17] <piko_water> jim_p,i mean i just only did the key thing
[10:17] <ikonia> sudaya: gparted is the tool to use, however be aware there are risks when changing any partition sizes with data on
[10:17] <jim_p> sudaya: gparted
[10:17] <piko_water> jim_p, now how do i install it
[10:17] <piko_water> ?
[10:17] <jaem> does Intrepid have support for resizing NTFS?  I was under the impression that the write support was being overhauled...
[10:18] <jaem> due to the old driver having a habit of toasting data
[10:18] <ikonia> sudaya read the factoid uboutt sent you
[10:18] <jim_p> piko_water: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.0
[10:18] <piko_water> jim_p, ok
[10:18] <zax1> jaem: how do i find the device, i cant see it any wher other then the system monitor
[10:18] <sudaya> what is intrepid
[10:18] <jim_p> piko_water: keep an eye on the dependencies it wants to install!!! is there a linux-image....?
[10:18] <jaem> ls /dev/sd [tab] [tab]
[10:19] <jaem> sudaya: Hardy+1
[10:19] <ikonia> !ibex > sudaya
[10:19] <piko_water> jim_p, oh well cannot be able to find the virtualbox 2.0
[10:20] <jim_p> piko_water: sudo apt-get update
[10:20] <jim_p> piko_water: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.0                after
[10:21] <Mr_Fixit> what owner should i set for my apache pages?
[10:21] <zax1> still no joy
[10:21] <zax1> is suse dif from ubuntu in that way
[10:21] <zax1> i cant list any devices
[10:21] <jaem> not sure
[10:21] <piko_water> jim_p, oh well got an error message about dependencies
[10:21] <sudaya> jaem:can u do some favour to me
[10:21] <jaem> I've only used SuSE 11.0
[10:21] <jaem> sure
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:22] <zax1> am sure they rnt that diffrnt
[10:22] <jaem> no, I wouldn't think so
[10:22] <sudaya> i just want to split ntfs partition
[10:22] <jaem> ok...
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> split?
[10:22] <sudaya> jaem: my ubuntu version is 8.04
[10:23] <jaem> yeah - I think that should work, then, but it is always a somewhat risky process
[10:23] <piko_water> jim_p,  virtualbox-2.0: Depends: libssl0.9.7 but it is not installable
[10:23] <piko_water>                   Depends: python2.3 (>= 2.3) but it is not installable
[10:23] <piko_water>  ?
[10:23] <jaem> you should probably back up the data on the ntfs partition first, to be safe
[10:23] <Sammy> question did ubuntu server can manage multi user??
[10:23] <koshari> zax1 hal-device
[10:23] <piko_water> jim_p, so should i install those seperately
[10:23] <jim_p> piko_water: yea, are they in synaptic? i think they arent
[10:24] <sudaya> jim_p: gpaarted doesnt work
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> piko_water: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/1272
[10:24] <Flannel> Sammy: Ubuntu server will work fine with multiple users, yes.
[10:24] <sudaya> it only allow me to delete partion not rezie
[10:24] <piko_water> jim_p, oh well i dont know that they are in it or not ?
[10:24] <zax1> are you sure its sd?
[10:24] <ubuntu_todd>  koshari: But how could I distinguish video or audio.
[10:24] <jaem> sudaya: only did it once, back in Feisty... can't remember
[10:24] <fedaykin_> jaem: erm, hello again. i tryied Amarok but i dont likes it too much, any other iTunes similar programs which with i can sync iPhone?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> piko_water: http://vbox.innotek.de/pipermail/vbox-trac/2008-February/005768.html
[10:24] <zax1> how can i force an auto detect of usb drives ?
[10:24] <jaem> zax1: I would think so, but some distros do it diffently
[10:25] <jim_p> sudaya: well you need a bit of free space to start the resizing. and the patition has to me unmounted
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> zax1: if it shows up in sudo fdisk -l then its detected
[10:25] <koshari> ubuntu_todd theres rm which are a/v and ra which are audio real networks files
[10:25] <jaem> fedaykin: well, as was already stated, you apparently need a jailbroken iPhone to do so anyways
[10:25] <sudaya> jim_p:i have unmounted it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> zax1: you dont have to force detection
[10:25] <jaem> and I really couldn't tell you
[10:25] <sudaya> actually itis 50 gb
[10:25] <fedaykin_> jaem: its jailbroken :)
[10:25] <jim_p> sudaya: make some space
[10:25] <jaem> zax1, if you really can't find it, run lsusb and see if it's even detected
[10:26] <sudaya> jim_p: ivae space around 40 gb
[10:26] <ubuntu_todd> koshari: Got it.
[10:26] <sudaya> jim_p: r u talking about free space
[10:26] <zax1> no such file
[10:26] <zax1> is the answer
[10:26] <jaem> fedaykin: better hope Apple doesn't have ninjas too :D http://xkcd.com/225/
[10:27] <Mr_Fixit> hmm.. what's the command to pipe cat through ssh?
[10:27] <jaem> but I don't blame you
[10:27] <zax1> i give up
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> zax1: how are you getting that error?
[10:27] <jim_p> sudaya: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[10:27] <piko_water> jim_p, do you the links ActionParsnip is sending ?
[10:27] <zax1> oh by running lsusb
[10:27] <jaem> Mr_Fixit: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:27] <Mr_Fixit> send a file through ssh
[10:27] <jaem> ah
[10:27] <sudaya> jim_p:thanks
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> zax1: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l?
[10:27] <jaem> use scp
[10:27] <jaem> @Mr_Fixit
[10:28] <fedaykin_> jaem: hahaha
[10:28] <Mr_Fixit> jaem, i was under the impression that cat was more resonsive
[10:28] <zax1> nothing ran by runnin sudo fdisk -1
[10:28] <zax1> no such file was the answer
[10:28] <jaem> cat just spits the file to standard output
[10:28] <Sammy> help me please my firefox error like this "This software requires Java to be installed and enabled.If you are prompted to confirm the use of Java, make sure that you select 'Always' in the Confirmation message.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> thats -1 (one) you need -l (ell)
[10:28] <zax1> i ran it through terminal
[10:28] <Sammy> "
[10:28] <jim_p> piko_water: yea i did.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> zax1: you can copy and paste to the terminal
[10:28] <jaem> and you can't pipe arbitrary data through ssh like that
[10:28] <piko_water> jim_p, so i think it's not possible
[10:28] <zax1> oh
[10:29] <jaem> scp is what you want for copying files to a remote host
[10:29] <ubuntu_todd>  koshari: how to change the charset in "text/html;charset=utf-8"
[10:29] <zax1> no joy
[10:29] <jim_p> piko_water: wait
[10:29] <piko_water> jim_p, ok
[10:29] <koshari> ubuntu_todd ?
[10:29] <zax1> thanks any way,
[10:29] <jaem> sorry, zax1
[10:29] <ubuntu_todd>  koshari: The following components are required: text/html;charset=utf-8
[10:30] <Mr_Fixit> jaem, i've used it before.. but like i said.. i was under the impression that piping it though cat into a new file was 'better'.... i'll use the scp lol
[10:30] <telexicon> jaem, i wish sftp would copy directories
[10:30] <telexicon> Sammy, do you have java installed?
[10:30] <ubuntu_todd> But the page source says text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
[10:30] <Sammy> yes I have
[10:30] <fedaykin_> jaem: songbird rocks. just now downloaded, nah this is better then Amarok. cheers & kisses for help
[10:30] <jaem> telexicon: I wish sftp would copy large bills :D
[10:31] <koshari> ubuntu_todd dunno its not my field of expertise,
[10:31] <jaem> you're welcome - it still lacks some features, but it's pretty awesome
[10:31] <lancerocke> can anyone help me with virtualbox? it doesnt look like anyone is in the official channel
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: wassup
[10:31] <koshari> lancerocke whats your problem
[10:31] <lancerocke> for some reason when i first installed and ran virtualbox with vista my display was 1440x900 bu tnow i cant get that display back in vista via virtualbox. any ideas y that is?
[10:31] <legend2440> i have a big favor to ask.  could someone type in terminal  gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume  and  sudo blkid and tell me what uuid in resume matches in  sudo blkid.  is it the swap uuid?
[10:31] <telexicon> Sammy, did you restart firefox?
[10:32] <jim_p> piko_water: can you install python2.5
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: so you are running virtualbox with a vista host?
[10:32] <Sammy> yes...but still cant connect
[10:32] <telexicon> Sammy, in your address bar, type about:plugins
[10:32] <telexicon> Sammy, is java listed?
[10:32] <sudaya> jim_p: is there any other way
[10:32] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip: im on Linux (ubuntu)
[10:32] <piko_water> jim_p, yeah sure
[10:33] <telexicon> Sammy, er, and click go after typing about:plugins
[10:33] <sudaya> jim_p: can i use ntfstools
[10:33] <koshari> lancerocke dunno, did you install the guest drivers
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: ok so its an ubuntu host with a vista guest?
[10:33] <telexicon> Sammy, or press enter
[10:33]  * jaem has calculus in 6 hours ><  - goodnight everybody
[10:33] <lancerocke> vista guest yes and i did install the host drivers
[10:33] <sudaya> jim_p:gparted is not working at all
[10:33] <jim_p> sudaya: i dont know :(
[10:33] <cloudnet> Predator, have you tried Synaptics?
[10:33] <jim_p> sudaya: why?
[10:33] <Mr_Fixit> and anyone know the proper owners for my webpages?
[10:33] <sobersabre> hi. is there a font creation tool on ubuntu ?
[10:34] <jaem> Mr_Fixit: me
[10:34] <koshari> lancerocke you mean the guest drivers?
[10:34] <Mr_Fixit> *proper permissions also
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: ok so you boot vista and you get no display?
[10:34] <sudaya> jim_p: it doesnot allow to rsize
[10:34] <sudaya> jim_p:it only allow to remove the partition
[10:34] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit: the owner should be the www-data user
[10:34] <piko_water> jim_p, yep its donw
[10:34] <lancerocke> i boot into vista and get like 1024 display rather than 1440
[10:34] <Sammy> I'm using SSL vpn with firefox
[10:34] <piko_water> jim_p, done*
[10:34] <Mr_Fixit> thanks ikonia
[10:34] <lancerocke> i mean guest drivers, yes
[10:35] <ikonia> lancerocke: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:35] <jim_p> piko_water: retry installing vbirtualbox
[10:35] <jim_p> sudaya: use a gparted live cd
[10:35] <sudaya> jim_p:idont have it
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: so you want a widescreen vista?
[10:35] <sudaya> jim_p: how do i get it
[10:36] <piko_water> jim_p, error messages ::::      The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:36] <piko_water>   virtualbox-2.0: Depends: libssl0.9.7 but it is not installable
[10:36] <piko_water>                   Depends: python2.3 (>= 2.3) but it is not installable
[10:36] <piko_water> E: Broken packages
[10:36] <piko_water>    ???
[10:36] <FloodBot1> piko_water: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <sudaya> jim_P: do i need root privilrges
[10:36] <sudaya> to do that
[10:36] <lancerocke> ikonia:i just want to know how to get it working right again. when i entered this channel i explained that i was in the virtualbox room but noone was there and asked if someone could help me.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> piko_water: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:36] <ikonia> lancerocke take it tot he correct chanel please.
[10:36] <sobersabre> is there a font creation tool on ubuntu ?
[10:36] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip: yes i want 1440x900 back in vista
[10:36] <sobersabre> I am on 8.04 now
[10:37] <ikonia> lancerocke pelase take it to the correct channel
[10:37] <jim_p> sudaya: you need to download an iso and burn it
[10:37] <lancerocke> ikonia: " when i entered this channel i explained that i was in the virtualbox room but noone was there and asked if someone could help me."
[10:37] <ikonia> lancerocke that doesn't make this room virtualbox / windows support
[10:37] <sudaya> jim_p:ok
[10:37] <ikonia> lancerocke: please take it tot he correct channel
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: check pm
[10:38] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:38] <Morder> hwo do i set the trashcan (and shutdown/time/speaker/network on the top bar) to the right of the bar? they seems to be centered
[10:38] <jim_p> piko_water: libssl0.9.8 is in the repos
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: np
[10:38] <jim_p> install it
[10:38] <lancerocke> ikonia: the fact that i had to explain noone was in the vbox room implies that i understood that but was asking for help here instead. with that said 2 people said theyd try to help me anyway
[10:38] <lancerocke> ur just wasting window space saying this
[10:38] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:38] <ikonia> lancerocke just because you explain your in the other chanel does not mean you should take this channel offtopic - ActionParsnip is helping you in a pm, please keep it in a pm or int he CORRECT channel, please
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: why youd want a vista guest is anyones guess
[10:39] <legend2440> could some kind soul open two terminals. one with command     sudo blkid      and another with command  gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume   and tell me which uuid in blkid matches the one in the resume file.  i think its swap but not sure. my uuids got messed up
[10:39] <Exaltia> !ppa
[10:39] <piko_water> jim_p, i dont know about that, if it is how should i check it ?
[10:39] <ikonia> legend2440 blikid's and uuid's are unique to your system
[10:40] <ikonia> legend2440: what is setup on mine, will be different on yours
[10:40] <scopecreep> uhm, how much swap does a system with 8gb of ram need?
[10:40] <Exaltia> !mirror
[10:40] <Exaltia> !Packages.gz
[10:40] <ikonia> scopecreep depnds what your doing, if you want to use suspect / hibernate you should at least match your ram
[10:40] <jim_p> piko_water: sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8
[10:40] <Exaltia> Hello everybody
[10:40] <legend2440> ikonia: yes i know but trying to figure out if i should have the swap uuid match the uuid in the resume file
[10:41] <scopecreep> ah, that would probably explain the little problem i had earlier then
[10:41] <Exaltia> I've build my own mirror for test, and to use apt with modified packages only for me, buts
[10:41] <ikonia> legend2440 I think the file and swap are physically different, but the file is stored on swap
[10:41] <ikonia> legend2440: I'm not %100 on that though
[10:42] <Exaltia> I've build my own mirror for test, and to use apt with modified packages only for me, but since i've modified a package and runned dpkg-scanpackages, apt report corrupted packages.gz
[10:42] <Exaltia> what did i missed in such build ?
[10:42] <ikonia> Exaltia you need to rebuild packages.gz with the new file sizes in
[10:42] <piko_water> jim_p, yes installed it and tried to install the virtual-box but got the same error messages
[10:43] <Exaltia> dpkg-scanpakcages doesn't do it automagically ? :(
[10:43] <legend2440> ikonia:  if you type gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume you will see a uuid number. what i need to know is if that number corresponds to any of the uuids that show when you do  sudo blkid
[10:43] <tavish> ﻿automagically
[10:43] <Exaltia> hehe tavish :)
[10:44] <jim_p> piko_water: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list . what ubuntu version are you on?
[10:44] <ikonia> legend2440 sorry, I don't have a suspend partition setup, I don't use it
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: i would but i dont have access to my linux boxes
[10:44] <legend2440> ok thanks
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: and i dont use suspend as its really not worth the heartache
[10:45] <legend2440> ActionParsnip: you mean swap?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: oh i have a very small swap
[10:45] <piko_water>  !pastebin
[10:45] <Mr_Fixit> where are all the users listed?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Mr_Fixit: users of what?
[10:46] <Mr_Fixit> my box
[10:47] <piko_water> jim_p, http://paste.ubuntu.com/61902/
[10:47] <legend2440> could someone paste the results of   sudo blkid   and   gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume so i can figure which uuid i should have in the  resume file?
[10:47] <legend2440> !paste
[10:47] <ActionParsnip>  file which will Mr_Fixit: you could open the /etc/passwd filewhich will show all users
[10:47] <scopecreep> can i boot to a livecd and resize swap without borking anything?
[10:48] <ikonia> scopecreep you can, but resizing any partitions has a risk associated with it, so be careful
[10:48] <jim_p> piko_water: see all the lines you wrote under "for vmware" ? delete everything but the hardy line
[10:48] <Mr_Fixit> that will work ActionParsnip
[10:48] <piko_water> jim_p, ok
[10:48] <ikonia> scopecreep: be aware you uuid number of that parttiion will change
[10:48] <jim_p> piko_water: save
[10:48] <[mbm]> scopecreep: why a live cd? swapoff and just repartition it
[10:48] <jim_p> piko_water: sudo apt-get update
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Mr_Fixit: its not overly graceful but does the job
[10:48] <jim_p> piko_water: and retry installation
[10:48] <scopecreep> i need to shrink my ntfs partition some more
[10:49] <Mr_Fixit> sure does.. thanks
[10:49] <ikonia> [mbm]: resizing it may want to move/change the disk thats in use
[10:49] <piko_water> jim_p, ok
[10:49] <sudaya> can any one tell me how do i login genome desktop with root user
[10:49] <ikonia> sudaya: you don't
[10:49] <ikonia> sudaya: why do you want to do that ?#
[10:49] <[mbm]> ikonia: oh right.. love lvm
[10:49] <ikonia> [mbm]: agreed
[10:49] <Mr_Fixit> so he can type in the unholy rm command
[10:49] <scopecreep> i do remember selecting something with uid in it related to the partition table
[10:50] <scopecreep> i wouldnt mind reinstalling but i finally got fonts looking right and have no clue what all i did to get here
[10:50] <sudaya> ikonia: i just want to run gparted from root user
[10:50] <ikonia> sudaya: you don't need to login as root for that
[10:50] <ikonia> sudaya: on the command line type "sudo gparted"
[10:50] <ikonia> sudaya: sorry - "gksudo gparted"
[10:50] <sudaya> ok
[10:50] <piko_water> jim_p, yes its started indeed
[10:51] <ubuntu_todd> koshari: I can listen to the radio by adding http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan4db.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx in my rhythmbox
[10:51] <DistroJockey> gksu is better to use than gksudo FYI
[10:51] <jim_p> piko_water: can you identify your mistake?
[10:52] <Flannel> DistroJockey: they're identical
[10:52] <sudaya> ikonia: but it doesnt allow me to resize the partition
[10:52] <sudaya> ikonia: resize option is disable
[10:52] <DistroJockey> Flannel, not according to the man page they aren't
[10:52] <ikonia> sudaya: thats nothing to do with you not being root
[10:52] <ikonia> sudaya: that could be because the disk is in use
[10:52] <lenin> Hello all, i have a problem with audio in Audacity and i cannot open files. Can anyone please help me? Thanks.
[10:53] <piko_water> jim_p, yep actually i was doing wrong in the sources.list
[10:53] <Flannel> DistroJockey: one is symlinked to the other, so it's not really possible for them to be different.
[10:53] <sudaya> ikonia:i have unmout the partition
[10:53] <piko_water> jim_p, i was adding all the other sources of the version with the hardy one
[10:53] <ikonia> sudaya that doesn't mean it's not in use as a disk
[10:53] <jim_p> piko_water: yes, you added sources that were overriding arch other
[10:53] <jim_p> *each
[10:53] <piko_water> jim_p, oh o k
[10:54] <piko_water> jim_p, that wicked after installing this one i can install windows on it right
[10:54] <sudaya> ikonia: actually i have 80 gb hdd
[10:54] <DistroJockey> Flannel, "if you call the gksu command. You can force the backend by using the gksudo command, ..."
[10:54] <ikonia> sudaya so ?
[10:54] <ikonia> sudaya: the size of the disk has nothing to do with it
[10:54] <sudaya> ikonia:i have install ubuntu in 20 gb and next 50 gbe is ntfs
[10:54] <DistroJockey> Flannel, note the use of the word 'force'
[10:54] <jim_p> piko_water: yes
[10:55] <sudaya> ikonia: now i dont use windows at all
[10:55] <ikonia> sudaya I'll say it again - the size of the disk is nothing to do with it, it is more likley because the the "disk" not partition is in use
[10:55] <piko_water> jim_p, really appreciated for your help
[10:55] <sudaya> ikonia: i want to split the ntfs partion
[10:55] <sudaya> ikonia: ehat should i do
[10:56] <ikonia> sudaya you've said that about 3 times, and I'm explaining the most probable cause of your problem
[10:56] <Flannel> DistroJockey: Again, symlinked.
[10:56] <jim_p> piko_water: you are welcome
[10:56] <sudaya> ikonia: that mean i have to use gparted livecd
[10:57] <yvlasov> hey people are you familiar installing ubuntu as domU on XEN
[10:57] <yvlasov> ?????????
[10:57] <jim_p> http://irodov.nm.ru/wget4web/ :O
[10:57] <DistroJockey> Flannel, then the documentation is flawed
[10:57] <jim_p> yvlasov: on a xen cpu?
[10:58] <yvlasov> yes
[10:58] <jim_p> yvlasov: well ubuntu is only for i386 and amd64 cpus
[10:58] <yvlasov> it hangs for me on boot up language selection
[10:58] <[mbm]> jim_p: xen - hypervisor (think vmware)
[10:59] <ikonia> sudaya or the ubuntu livecd
[10:59] <Dillizar> how can i install ubuntu on a laptop that doesnt have cd-rom
[10:59] <jim_p> [mbm]: is it a virtualization thing?!
[10:59] <[mbm]> jim_p: yep.
[10:59] <ikonia> Dillizar netboot, or a usb install - both are troublesome
[10:59] <sudaya> ikonia: how  can i use ubuntu live cd
[10:59]  * jim_p goes to hide
[10:59] <yvlasov> now ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:59] <ikonia> sudaya boot from it and use gparted from the ubuntu livecde
[10:59] <fridley> evening... currently in the process of upgrading ubuntu to version 8.10 and all packages have been downloaded, but during the installing the upgrades section it has stopped on "Setting up wvdial (160.1+nmu2)..." Any thouhts or ideas woul be appreciated
[11:00] <ikonia> !ibex > fridley
[11:00] <Flannel> fridley: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support
[11:00] <can-o-worms> I'm doing an install now with the 8.10 disk and it doesn't give me an option to do a guided dual boot install in the partitioning step. Can anyone tell me why?
[11:00] <Flannel> can-o-worms: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[11:00] <ikonia> !ibex > can-o-worms
[11:00] <Dillizar> ikonia: can i copy the cd on usb and boot from usb :D
[11:00] <ikonia> Dillizar: no
[11:00] <sudaya> ikonia: can i use same gksudo gpatred.. in command
[11:01] <ikonia> sudaya yes, but you will have to install gparted on the livecd first
[11:01] <fridley> ty
[11:01] <Dillizar> ikonia: can i put usb cd-rom? and boot from there
[11:01] <can-o-worms> Flannel: ikonia thanks
[11:01] <ikonia> Dillizar if your board supports it, sure
[11:01] <sudaya> ikonia:how to install gparted in live cd
[11:01] <woody86> Dillizar- try Unetbootin :)
[11:01] <ikonia> sudaya open the package manager, find gparted and select install
[11:02] <sudaya> i have already installed it
[11:02] <Slade92> guys i have a problem with the desktop effects.. there is a problem i the configuration editor and i dont know how to fix ... the problem is that the effects cant be enabled ?
[11:02] <Slade92> how to fix ?
[11:02] <ikonia> sudaya so you don't need to isntall it - why did you ask how to install it if you already have it
[11:02] <sudaya> in livecd
[11:03] <HorizonX1> hi, can you share internet on a wired connection using Bind9 and DHCP3-server?
[11:03] <mkartic> hey, can someone suggest a better alternative to the default 'terminal'?
[11:03] <oobe> hello i like beans
[11:03] <woody86> Dillizar- it does all the work for you of downloading the .iso, and making a USB bootable. It's very useful! I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on my desktop with it
[11:03] <HorizonX1> i don't want to use iptables, dnsmasq or ipmasq
[11:03] <Frogzoo> mkartic: what more do you want than gnome-terminal?
[11:03] <oobe> HorizonX1, probably not
[11:04] <ikonia> HorizonX1 you will need some sort of nat or masqurading, dns and dhcp do not do that
[11:04] <mkartic> like it would be nice if the bla@bla:pwd$ <-- part is highlighted, so that i can know wen the last command was executed
[11:04] <HorizonX1> oobe: so I have to use dnsmasq ... ok
[11:04] <HorizonX1> ikonia: so just follow the tutorials on the internet?
[11:04] <mkartic> bla@bla: pwd$ [sorry about the smiley]
[11:04] <ikonia> mkartic set your PS1 variable then
[11:04] <ikonia> HorizonX1 if you want
[11:05] <Frogzoo> mkartic: you can do that, if you put ansi escapes in PS1
[11:05] <HorizonX1> ikonia: there isn't an easier way is there?
[11:05] <mkartic> cool! i'll look that up! thanks!
[11:05] <woody86> does anyone know how to make my wireless adapter work, with the computer offline? I have another computer that I can download files from, and a USB stick
[11:05] <oobe> HorizonX1, yeah there are some simple ones out there
[11:05] <HorizonX1> oobe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 ?
[11:05] <Slade92> anyone to help me ?
[11:06] <oobe> HorizonX1, i have used that one or one very similar it should work
[11:06] <HorizonX1> ok cool thanks oobe
[11:06] <oobe> np
[11:08] <can-o-worms> I'm doing an install now with the 8.04 disk and it doesn't give me an option to do a guided dual boot install in the partitioning step. Can anyone tell me why?
[11:08] <ikonia> can-o-worms you said you where using 8.10 1 minute ago
[11:09] <hAnton> ...
[11:09] <Dillizar> woody86: so you are saying that i just need to unpack the iso on a usb?
[11:10] <can-o-worms> ikonia: yeah, i got it wrong
[11:10] <ikonia> can-o-worms: I've never seen a "install dual boot" menu in 8.04
[11:11] <can-o-worms> ikonia: there isn't
[11:11] <ikonia> can-o-worms so what's the problem
[11:11] <can-o-worms> ikonia: but you should have a couple of guided options
[11:11] <ikonia> can-o-worms normally just says guided/full/manual
[11:11] <can-o-worms> ikonia: i only have the one to use the entire disk
[11:11] <Flannel> can-o-worms: do you have an OS on the disk currently?
[11:12] <can-o-worms> Flannel: yes
[11:12] <can-o-worms> ikonia: there should be a ->Guided - use the largest continuous free space
[11:12] <ikonia> can-o-worms do you have any free space?
[11:12] <Flannel> can-o-worms: only if theres free space on the drive, I believe.
[11:12] <Mr_Fixit> how and where do i add a line to stop time outs on my server from a remote?
[11:13] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit time outs from what
[11:13] <can-o-worms> ikonia: i have a 200gb disk with a nothing but a fresh windows install on it
[11:13] <Mr_Fixit> inactivity
[11:13] <ikonia> can-o-worms thats not what I asked, do you have any free space on the disk
[11:13] <erica_> alguem
[11:14] <erica_> helpppppppppppppp
[11:14] <can-o-worms> ikonia: free space does not mean a free partiton
[11:14] <ikonia> erica_ just aska  clear and polite question
[11:14] <ikonia> can-o-worms thats NOT what I asked
[11:14] <ikonia> can-o-worms: do you have any FREE SPACE on THE DISK
[11:14] <holyguyver> I keep trying to run vuze, but every time it will not start & says this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/61912/
[11:14] <erica_> not scanjet2400
[11:15] <can-o-worms> ikonia: i know what you asked and I was quite clear the first time, a fresh windows install would never use 200 gigs
[11:15] <Flannel> can-o-worms: unallocated freespace, not empty space on a partition.
[11:15] <Flannel> can-o-worms: there's a large difference.
[11:15] <erica_> alguem fala portugues ai
[11:15] <Flannel> !pt | erica_
[11:15] <Flannel> can-o-worms: Go into gparted and shrink your windows partition, then you'll have free space
[11:15] <erki> holyguyver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5953737
[11:16] <woody86> Dillizar- just go here :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Automatic%20Approaches
[11:16] <ikonia> can-o-worms: if you have a 200gb partition and you ahve installed windwos onto it than that space is "in use" so thats why you have no free space
[11:16] <Flannel> !dualboot | can-o-worms
[11:16] <predator363> that was wierd i did an update and it uninstalled pidgin and wouldent lemme reinstall. had to the official pidgin repo and grab it
[11:16] <can-o-worms> Flannel: i have done plenty of ubuntu installs before and usually it works it out for you
[11:16] <ikonia> can-o-worms: not if you have no free space ont eh disk
[11:16] <NorthByNorthWest> ﻿Hi all! Suddenly xsane cont open scanner and says "Wrong argument" (translated from Swedish), how do I troubleshoot this? Didnt change anything, just quit then restarted xsane... rebooting didnt help...
[11:16] <predator363> is there a hamachi tech irc?
[11:17] <ikonia> predator363: no idea, have a look
[11:17] <can-o-worms> ikonia: no, usually ubuntu shrinks the partition, the days of making free space before you run the install disk have been over for a long time
[11:17] <Dillizar> 10x woody86
[11:17] <predator363> yep there is......an im the only one in it...
[11:17] <woody86> Dillizar- What's 10x?
[11:17] <ikonia> can-o-worms only if you have free space to allow it to swap it, other wise you will have to manually shrink it
[11:17] <Mr_Fixit> how do i view a folder i don't have permissions for?
[11:18] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit change the permissions
[11:18] <predator363> so anyone familler with hamachi wanna help me fix it?
[11:18] <holyguyver> erki thank you.
[11:18] <ikonia> predator363 waht is hamachi
[11:18] <ikonia> what
[11:18] <Dillizar> woody86: lol thanks->10x :D
[11:18] <predator363> ikonia: the world best vpn client in my opninion
[11:19] <woody86> Dillizar- Ah! No problem at all :D
[11:19] <ikonia> predator363 is it from the ubuntu repos
[11:19] <Mr_Fixit> ikonia, that isn't suitable for my needs but i'll try adding myself to the group..
[11:19] <predator363> ikonia: nope and hamachi's tech chat is empty
[11:19] <can-o-worms> ikonia: you obviously haven't done many installs
[11:19] <ikonia> can-o-worms thats your opinion
[11:19] <woody86> does anyone know how to make my wireless adapter work, with the computer offline? I have another computer that I can download files from, and a USB stick?
[11:19] <ikonia> predator363: https://secure.logmein.com/support.asp
[11:20] <can-o-worms> ikonia: and this page makes it quite simple -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[11:20] <can-o-worms> ikonia: it says -> The third option (Guided - use the largest continuous free space) will make Windows as small as possible and install Ubuntu in the remaining empty space.
[11:20] <ubuntu__> hola
[11:21] <woody86> ubuntu__- Hola! Como estas?
[11:21] <predator363> ikonia: yea there webpage support is useless
[11:21] <can-o-worms> ikonia: so, it is not my opinion, your lack of comprehenion makes it plainly obvious
[11:21] <Dedi> is there any auto nice deamon in the repos?
[11:21] <ikonia> can-o-worms you'll fidn that if there is no free space on a disk to actually use as a swap area to do the resize it can cause the re-sizing ssytem issues
[11:21] <ubuntu__> bien y tu woody
[11:21] <ubuntu__> ?
[11:21] <Flannel> !es | ubuntu__
[11:21] <predator363> so anyone here use hamachi and know how to get it working?
[11:22] <ikonia> predator363 it's not an ubuntu issues, there is a support process on teh softwares webpage
[11:22] <woody86> ubuntu__- Muay bien, gracias!
[11:22] <ubuntu__> de donde eres
[11:22] <predator363> ikonia: yea but its ubuntu giving me the error not hamachi so there tech support doesent help....i tryed
[11:23] <ikonia> predator363 what error ?
[11:23] <Jakob_the_liar> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
[11:23] <Jakob_the_liar> what does that mean?
[11:23] <predator363> lemme paste bin i
[11:23] <woody86> ubuntu__- that's then end of my Espanol
[11:23] <woody86> :D
[11:23] <Pirate_Hunter|as> huh
[11:24] <Mr_Fixit> i have my permissions set 764 and am in the group needed.. yet i still can't access the folder i want?
[11:24] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit you may have to log out and back in depending how your trying to access it
[11:24] <Mr_Fixit> ssh
[11:24] <predator363> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61918/
[11:24] <Jakob_the_liar>  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready
[11:24] <Jakob_the_liar> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
[11:24] <Jakob_the_liar> what does that mean?
[11:25] <Flannel> !away > pirate|asleep
[11:25] <ikonia> predator363 the errors are pretty clear, you don't have permissions to the predator363 direcotry, predator363 is not a valid command, and there is no config in predator363
[11:26] <predator363> ikonia: hmmm what do i need to do to fix it?
[11:27] <ikonia> predator363 change the permissions on /home/mikel/Desktop/hamachi-gui.desktop fix the bit that wants to do "tuncf", but a config in the /root/./home/mikel/Desktop/hamachi-gui.desktop
[11:28] <predator363> ikonia: k lemme try
[11:29] <can-o-worms> ikonia: you may be right, when you select the manual option, you can't resize the partition because it doesn't seem to know how much of the partition is being used
[11:29] <NorthByNorthWest> xsane cant connect to my scanner anymore, didnt do anything to make this happend. Now it says "Worng argument" or something like that... please help, need it for my business!
[11:31] <kosnick> hi
[11:32] <garu> hi everyone
[11:33] <jin_> flash has no sound :(
[11:33] <jim_p> jin_: open gstreamer-properties and select alsa stom the first dropdown menu under sound
[11:33] <jim_p> *from the
[11:33] <garu> having problems with ubuntu 8.04 LTS.When I connect a usb device, nothing happens, until last week everything was fine, but, now, just like that, it stopped working, even my pen drive doesnt work.can someone help?
[11:34] <D3JAVU> hi all
[11:34] <D3JAVU> how can i see my video fps i don't remember
[11:35] <jim_p> garu: do you have a flash drive handy? remove it from the pc, open a terminal, plug it in, and write in the terminal dmesg | tail   . what does it say?
[11:35] <D3JAVU> say me the comand
[11:35] <predator363> ikonia: now i get fopen(): No such file or directory
[11:35] <predator363> connect(): No such file or directory
[11:35] <ValBlue> how can i install themes except drag into appearance box?
[11:35] <D3JAVU> a
[11:36] <jim_p> ValBlue: extracting them in ~/.themes or in /usr/share/themes
[11:36] <DEVELOPER_> hey fps how can i now
[11:36] <ValBlue> jim_p:ty
[11:36] <predator363> ikonia: how do i use network managers vpn thin cos i cant get hamachi to work
[11:37] <ikonia> predator363 show me the full message
[11:37] <garu> jim_p it says "[175.420657] hub 3-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe the usb cable is bad?"
[11:37] <predator363> ikonia: that was it lol
[11:38] <jin_> jim_p, it seems tehre is no sound mixing :( can't play music and play youtube vids at the same time
[11:38] <predator363> ikonia: i ran hamachi-gui and it said that
[11:38] <jin_> when can Ubuntu get this right? :(
[11:38] <jim_p> garu: :O maybe yes. connect it on some port on the back thats directly connected on the mobo and do the procedure again
[11:39] <jim_p> jin_: you need pulseaudio
[11:39] <jin_> jim_p, I have pulseaudio
[11:40] <jim_p> jin_: well i dont use pulseaudio, only alsa and i can hear from youtube and audacious at the same time
[11:40] <jin_> it was a big mistake to use pulseaudio as sound server
[11:41] <ifireball> jin_: you need to install the flashsupport package then flash will play through pulseaudio
[11:42] <jin_> ifireball, that oackage is for flash 9 not 10
[11:43] <garu> jim_p same error in every single port.front and back.It says first "hub_port_status failed" and then it says "port 1 reset error"!
[11:43] <ifireball> jin_: afaik flash 10 still uses libflashsupport, but if you've tested it...
[11:44] <jim_p> garu: it may be some kernel malfunction. try another kernel or a live cd
[11:45] <garu> jim_p the problem is, that, it happens with winXP as well...I got dual boot, but with xp is a really serious problem.as soon as I plug in the flash drive or anything else, it completely freezes the system until I hard reboot.lol
[11:45] <predator363> so  anyone know how to get vpn working?
[11:46] <jim_p> garu: what psu are you on?
[11:46] <jim_p> garu: you are next to a big hardware failure!
[11:46] <garu> jim_p never had a single lovely blue screen of death.lol
[11:47] <alanbshepard77> is there a package or easy way to encrypt my home directory using AES? I REALLY, REALLY want to avoid re-installing Ubuntu using the alt install cd so I can use LUKS.
[11:47] <jim_p> garu: what psu are you on?
[11:47] <garu> jim_p it just happened like that, from one week to another.the only thing I changed on the system was, that I started working with virtual machines
[11:47] <garu> jim_p psu ?????? :s
[11:48] <johnsonstowing> hey guys im in shell...how can i call the dhcp for a eth0 card
[11:48] <jim_p> garu: power supply. how many watts and for what hardware?
[11:48] <johnsonstowing> its a short little command i cant remember
[11:49] <garu> jim_p I forgot to tell u, didnt I?lol...its a lappy :)
[11:50] <jim_p> garu: are you on battery now?
[11:53] <SchneeSchwarz> johnsonstowing: sudo dhclient eth0
[11:54] <NorthByNorthWest> The desktop background of my brothers computer just whent black, all icons gone... menues and bars are left... he can switch between the sides of the compiz cube...
[11:54] <garu> jim_p nope
[11:54] <johnsonstowing> thanks schneeschwarz
[11:55] <NorthByNorthWest> rebooting doesnt help...
[11:55] <jim_p> garu: then somehow your usb ports may got damaged
[11:55] <garu> jim_p dont even use the battery anymore...this computer has a relly crappy battery life (packard bell) :o
[11:55] <johnflux> Hey all
[11:56] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: nautilus crashed, opening a new nautilus window (select anything from the places menu) should fix it
[11:56] <garu> jim_p yeah...I'm just going to transfer things across my network from now on...is going to be bad for large files though.lol!and I can't use my external HDD :'(
[11:56] <garu> lol
[11:56] <johnflux> When I try to install ubuntu, i get lots of errors "Squashfs error"
[11:56] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: ill call and tell him that!
[11:56] <SchneeSchwarz> !md5 | johnflux
[11:56] <jim_p> garu: sorry mate
[11:56] <ikonia> can-o-worms it's quite common
[11:57] <ikonia> can-o-worms: I should say "it's quite common if the disk is %100 allocated", not just with gparted but any resize tools
[11:57] <garu> jim_p no probs...going to have to build one sometime soon anywayz...lol!Thanks alot for ur help and time ;)
[11:57] <jim_p> garu: you are welcome
[11:57] <garu> restarting
[11:58] <johnflux> SchneeSchwarz: is chosing "Check CD integrity " from the boot menu the same thing?
[11:59] <SchneeSchwarz> johnflux: in principle, yes. You should definitely chose this option.
[12:00] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: hmm... the window opened but the background is still black and no icons...
[12:00] <Roger41> ciao
[12:00] <Roger41> !addon
[12:01] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: hmm.. does he get a menu when he right-clicks the desktop?
[12:01] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: nope
[12:02] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: tell him to try running nautilus from the command line
[12:03] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: that opened a file browser... nothing else
[12:04] <jim_p> ifireball: tell him to kill nautilus first
[12:04] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: maybe he somehow configured nautilus to to manage the desktop, let me search where is that configured, also, maybe he tried using some kind of an automatic wallpaper setting application?
[12:06] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: thanks! (he didnt use any wallpaper app)
[12:06] <piko_water> jim_p, i am back
[12:07] <frith> i have a file server,  I was wondering what the best method of sharing data on it would be, i could use nfs
[12:07] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: run gconf-editor from the command line, go into appd->nautilus->preferences and make sure "show_desktop" is checked
[12:07] <ikonia> frith depends on your target clients
[12:07] <adityag> i installed php with the following php ./configure (paste bin http://privatepaste.com/bdwcqT04Nq) . Now i want to enable one of the modules, how to i achieve it ?? any help will be appreciated.
[12:07] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: run gconf-editor from the command line, go into apps->nautilus->preferences and make sure "show_desktop" is checked
[12:08] <frith> ikonia, well i am an all unix network
[12:08] <frith> maybe i might want to do stuff form wintendo
[12:08] <frith> wait yes i would like to share some mp3's to myself
[12:09] <ikonia> frith NFS will work well for all unix clients, plus you can use auto mounter
[12:09] <jim_p> adityag: was there a particular reason to install from source?
[12:10] <frith> ikonia, yeah i could put the shares on my ldap server
[12:10] <frith> autofs-ldap package will sort me out
[12:10] <Mr_Fixit> what's wrong with this line? sudo cp /var/tmp/shop /var/www/
[12:10] <adityag> jim_p: actually i dint install it, it was preinstalled in my dedicated server
[12:10] <Mr_Fixit> *shop is a directory
[12:10] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: that was already checked
[12:11] <SchneeSchwarz> Mr_Fixit: cp -r ....
[12:11] <Mr_Fixit> thankyou
[12:11] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit sudo cp /var/tmp/shop/
[12:11] <ikonia> not sudo cp /var/tmp/shop
[12:11] <jim_p> adityag: preinstalled from source? remove it then and install it from the repos
[12:11] <Mr_Fixit> ikonia, it worked without the /. i wanted to move the whole directory, not the contents
[12:12] <Mr_Fixit> *copy
[12:12] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit you need to use cp -R then
[12:12] <ikonia> Mr_Fixit: you can't move a directory without the contents
[12:12] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: hmm... lest try brute force... run "xkill" click on the desktop then run "sudo killall nautilus" from the command line then try running nautilus again
[12:12] <adityag>  jim_p: did u check out the paste bin ?
[12:12] <Mr_Fixit> yes.. worked well after i remembered the recursive... it's 5am lol i make mistakes
[12:13] <jim_p> adityag: no. i am tired
[12:14] <adityag>  jim_p: 1st pls check out http://privatepaste.com/bdwcqT04Nq
[12:14] <johnflux> the installer doesn't let me create a user with the username "john.flux"
[12:14] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: 'xkill' from the terminal?
[12:14] <johnflux> this should probably be fixed :-)
[12:14] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: yeah
[12:15] <eukaryote> Hello All. I'm having trouble with USB automounting. What's missing from my new Hardy system that's in my old Feisty system at work? It all works fine there.
[12:15] <jim_p> adityag: so these are the ./configure options. firefox has a similar bunch of options
[12:15] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: of all that doesn't work, try turning off desktop effects
[12:15] <adityag> jim_p: yeh, almost all packages have it
[12:15] <pubby> ,,
[12:16] <adityag> jim_p: now one of the packages is disabled by default, now how do i enable it ?
[12:16] <jim_p> adityag: which one?
[12:17] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: 'sudo killall nautilus' made everything come back, no need to restart nautilus... now what? :) problem solved?
[12:17] <adityag> jim_p: DOM
[12:18] <jef1> where can i configure the monospace font?
[12:18] <jim_p> adityag: --disable-dom .change it to --enable-dom and recompile
[12:18] <adityag> jim_p: from '--disable-dom' to '--enable-dom'
[12:18] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: seems so, make sure it stays ok after reboot
[12:19] <adityag>  jim_p:  so i should type ./configure '--enable-dom'
[12:19] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: great! rebooting! any idea what might have caused this and how to avoid it?
[12:20] <adityag>  jim_p: sorry  "./configure --enable-dom" right ?
[12:20] <jim_p> adityag: no, you should type all this in pastebin and change --disable-dom to --enable dom
[12:20] <ifireball> NorthByNorthWest: some nautilus glitch. no idea
[12:20] <the_eraser> when i print from pdf all pages are printed on the same paper :((( i cant change the print layout anywhere :((( help me
[12:20] <adityag> jim_p: ok, do i need to remove the ' ?
[12:21] <jim_p> adityag: let me pastebin it
[12:21] <Decepticon> why does ubuntu not support geforce fx 5xxx
[12:21] <adityag> jim_p: thanks a lot!!!
[12:22] <the_eraser> anyone into printing from pdf?
[12:23] <jim_p> adityag: take a deep breath        http://pastebin.com/d2460c503
[12:24] <bs66_66> what is the purpose of the ubuntu dvd image? is it possible to install all flavors of ubuntu from it, or why is it so big?
[12:24] <jim_p> bs66_66: the dvd contains the entire ubuntu repo i think
[12:24] <adityag> jim_p: thanks. But for my information....we just need to remove the '     right ?
[12:25] <ziroday> bs66_66: it has extra packages that are not on the main ubuntu cd
[12:27] <Anrulz> hey guys I have daemon tools can I install ubuntu from there without burning a disc ? cause I rally dont want to burn my last 2-3 CDs
[12:27] <adityag> adityag: and for recompiling i need to do a MAKE and then MAKE INSTALL right ?
[12:27] <NorthByNorthWest> ifireball: everything is OK! many thanks! :)
[12:27] <adityag> jim_p:  ^^
[12:27] <jim_p> adityag: yes
[12:27] <remoteCTRL> hi guys! i would like to rip my brothers marriage dvd to the disk, what app would i use for that?
[12:28] <ikonia> Anrulz: not really
[12:28] <ikonia> remoteCTRL: dvd::rip or acidrip or menocder
[12:28] <jim_p> remoteCTR1: is that dvd copy protected?
[12:28] <ikonia> mencoder
[12:28] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: nice, thanks!
[12:28] <jim_p> i would suggest dd though
[12:29] <ikonia> jim_p dd for ripping a disc ?
[12:29] <jim_p> ikonia: no, he will make an .iso of it and copy it to other dvdd
[12:29] <jim_p> dvds
[12:29] <ikonia> I thought he wanted to rip it, not copy it
[12:30] <Anrulz> thanks ikonia
[12:31] <jim_p> ikonia: oh yea, he said rip. when i say rip i usually mean remove copy protection and copy it on another dvd. i hate encoding to other filetypes
[12:31] <Dextorion> this day never ends... *sigh*
[12:37] <Decepticon> how do i get out of low graphics mode?
[12:37] <Decepticon> why doesnt ubuntu support nvidia geforce fx 5200
[12:37] <Decepticon> what do i have to do to make this WORK
[12:37] <blue-frog> Decepticon: it does
[12:38] <the_eraser> when i print from pdf all pages are printed on the same paper :((( i cant change the print layout anywhere :((( help me
[12:38] <Decepticon> blue-frog can you please tell me how to make it not be in low graphics mode
[12:39] <blue-frog> Decepticon: do you know if you are using the restricted drivers?
[12:39] <Decepticon> im seeing "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)" inside /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:39] <Decepticon> i installed nvidia drivers with
[12:39] <Decepticon> i installed nvidia drivers with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run
[12:39] <Decepticon> from nvidia.com
[12:39] <Decepticon> and restarted, and it told me i need to use the propertary drivers (in the little taskbar system tray icon)
[12:39] <Decepticon> so i did that
[12:40] <Decepticon> and i restarted, and now it just does this 'low graphics mode'
[12:40] <blue-frog> Decepticon: I don't know then. I do not use them. I use the "restricted drivers" feature of ubuntu
[12:40] <Decepticon> thats what i did blue-frog
[12:40] <blue-frog> Decepticon: you must get rid of the nvidia drivers you installed first
[12:40] <Decepticon> i enabled the 'restricted drivers' but its complaining about 'low graphics mode' after i rebooted
[12:40] <Decepticon> what?!
[12:40] <Decepticon> how do i do that
[12:41] <blue-frog> Decepticon: it must have been written some time when you installed the .run file
[12:41] <Decepticon> what must have written what?
[12:41] <blue-frog> Decepticon: how to remove
[12:41] <Decepticon> nope
[12:42] <Decepticon> so ive just been sitting here with a half working ubuntu
[12:42] <Decepticon> its pretty frustrating, its been like this for a week and i cannot get a straight answer out of anyone about how to fix it
[12:43] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo ./nvidia-installer -i   gives you something?
[12:43] <Decepticon> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run: command not found
[12:43] <blue-frog> Decepticon: no as I wrote it.
[12:44] <Decepticon> i did "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run -i"
[12:44] <defrysk> Decepticon, you way of installing the nvidia-driver is not supported here afaIk
[12:44] <Decepticon> what does that mean
[12:44] <blue-frog> Decepticon: that's what I say. do it as I wrote it
[12:44] <Decepticon> blue-frog im not sure what you mean, i did "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run -i"
[12:44] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok
[12:44] <paul68> can somebody help me out with advanced dns and dhcp configuration?
[12:45] <Decepticon> why doesnt ubuntu support old hardware
[12:45] <blue-frog> Decepticon: it does
[12:45] <Decepticon> its kind of the reason i got this... so i owuld know its COMPLETELY supported
[12:45] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.ru --uninstall    gives better results?
[12:45] <Decepticon> blue-frog one sec
[12:46] <defrysk> Decepticon, the installation of the .run file will never work for ubuntu is configured for usage of the ubuntu nvidia packages
[12:46] <defrysk> Decepticon, so to make it work you will have to undo that configuration
[12:46] <TarBar> How much space does the newer versions of ubuntu take up?
[12:46] <defrysk> TarBar, about the same space
[12:47] <TarBar> As wha
[12:47] <defrysk> TarBar, as the older versions
[12:47] <Decepticon> okay so i just unistalled via the nvidia installer
[12:47] <TarBar> How much space do the older versions take..
[12:48] <Decepticon> blue-frog, the file wasnt chmodded +x, so i did, and i ran sudo ./NVIDIA-blabla --uninstall, and it uninstaled
[12:48] <blue-frog> Decepticon: must make sure that all nvidia.ko were removed
[12:48] <Decepticon> where do i find nvidia.ko
[12:49] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo updatedb && locate nvidia.ko
[12:49] <defrysk> TarBar, if you wonder how much space you need for an ubuntu istall , at minimum about 3 gigs
[12:49] <TarBar> ok
[12:49] <Decepticon> blue-frog: /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:49] <Decepticon> should i rm it
[12:49] <blue-frog> Decepticon: hang on
[12:50] <blue-frog> Decepticon: paste the result of   dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ii | awk '{print$2}'   on pastebin.com and gie the link
[12:51] <Decepticon> blue-frog thers only two lines
[12:51] <blue-frog> give them here then on one line
[12:51] <Decepticon> nvidia-glx; nvidia-kernel-common
[12:51] <blue-frog> Decepticon: just a sec
[12:52] <Carpe|Diem> I'm on my laptop and I bought a new HDD. Is it possible to backup my linux+data in my current drive, and restore it on my new HDD when I switch the drives?
[12:52] <Carpe|Diem> :s
[12:52] <Carpe|Diem> Maybe i should be more clear...
[12:53] <elvis123> hi, is the /boot partition allowed to be a raid5?
[12:53] <sayron_> guys i have a problem with the desktop effects.. there is a problem i the configuration editor and i dont know how to fix ... the problem is that the effects cant be enabled ?
[12:53] <jrib> !cloning | Carpe|Diem
[12:54] <laughfunny> elvis, it's mother board dependent.
[12:54] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: do that and copy over your /home and you should be ok
[12:54] <Carpe|Diem> is that all, jrib ?
[12:54] <Carpe|Diem> :)
[12:54] <Carpe|Diem> and my /home partition can just be copy/pasted?
[12:54] <Carpe|Diem> nice:)
[12:55] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: I guess you could just copy everything to the new drive too, that would probably work.  The nice thing is you can try it and if it doesn't work, just start over :)
[12:55] <Carpe|Diem> rly?
[12:55] <Carpe|Diem> I can just copy/paste my entire OS?
[12:55] <Carpe|Diem> lol:D
[12:55] <laughfunny> carpet, knock it off?
[12:55] <Carpe|Diem> what?
[12:56] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: yeah, don't see why not
[12:56] <blue-frog> Decepticon: dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ii | awk '{print$2}' | sudo xargs apt-get remove -y     to remove the 2 packages. should use nvidia-glx-new if memory serves. try using system/administration/restricted drivers to install the driver
[12:56] <Carpe|Diem> ok jrib, thanks a lot:)
[12:56] <elvis123> laughfunny even on a software raid
[12:56] <laughfunny> yes, the disks have to be initialized.
[12:56] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: well ok, I can think of one think that will break now.  Your /etc/fstab
[12:56] <IdleOne> carpediem: you can do that in windows also ( copy the entire OS ) but why would you want to copy paste 10Gig + your personal data
[12:56] <paul68> can somebody help me out with advanced dns and dhcp configuration?
[12:56] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: and /boot/grub/menu.lst because of the UUID stuff
[12:57] <Carpe|Diem> yes
[12:57] <Carpe|Diem> I will have to reinstall grub, true
[12:57] <hagus> I need to connect my ubuntu to a wireless printer
[12:57] <blue-frog> Decepticon: and remove with rm all the nvidia.ko you find before installing again the drivers.
[12:57] <Decepticon> blue-frog do i need to kill X or anyhting..
[12:57] <jrib> Carpe|Diem: so maybe the first way is easier afterall
[12:57] <Carpe|Diem> IdleOne: I don't want to re-install everything
[12:57] <blue-frog> Decepticon: hang on
[12:57] <Carpe|Diem> ok, jrib
[12:57] <Decepticon> blue-frog doing the long command you gave me results in 'sudo updatedb && locate nvidia.ko' giving nothing now...
[12:58] <hagus> My wireless printer is on http://192.168.0.7 - how do I configure cups?
[12:58] <End3r> morning folks
[12:58] <Carpe|Diem> so I just move the my-packages to my other drive, install ubuntu on it, and restore the packages?
[12:58] <Carpe|Diem> and copy/paste my home also...and re-mount it in my new installation?
[12:58] <blue-frog> Decepticon: good news.  ls /etc/X11/xo*  gives?
[12:58] <laughfunny> cho(r)e
[12:59]  * hagus wonders if anyone could give him a quick guide to using CUPS ?
[12:59] <Decepticon> blue-frog ? you want me to ls /etc/X11/ and check for xo* ?
[12:59] <IdleOne> Carpe|Diem: yup that is pretty much it
[12:59] <Decepticon> blue-frog there is no /etc/X11/xo*
[12:59] <Gothfunc> hi.  why after i mount a cifs share would it report "not a directory" after i try to ls the contents?
[12:59] <Carpe|Diem> ok thanks:)
[12:59] <tanto_> i need some explanation on error 15 when grub loading.
[12:59] <Carpe|Diem> I hope it'll work:)
[13:00] <eagle_> anyone got a good suggestion of a ubuntu-eee edition to install for my eeepc 901? ive installed the ubuntu-eee netbook version, but I dont like the frontend lanucher that it always get ontop etc?
[13:00] <hagus> Basically, I want to connect to an HPL7680 (located at 192.168.0.7) using CUPS - what protocols do I pick and how do I do it - please?
[13:00] <blue-frog> Decepticon: yes want to see what xorg you have, ah can't remember the name of the low graphic config then, ls /etc/X11 and see if you can guess its name
[13:00]  * hagus tries to look intelligent but does not convince.
[13:00] <laughfunny> hagus, try again.  That's already a working config.  Don't his so much next time...
[13:01] <the_eraser> is pdf2ps or pdftops the prefered converter?
[13:01] <hagus> his?
[13:01] <laughfunny> select
[13:01] <Decepticon> blue-frog ok sorry i made a mistake... in /etc/X11/ there is some xorg.conf
[13:02] <hagus> The problem is that when I ask it to print a test page - nothing happens, laughfunny :)
[13:02] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ther must be something called lowgrpahic or default, correct?
[13:02] <laughfunny> classic localhost:631, remove then add, I'd think.
[13:02] <Decepticon> blue-frog here isthe ls http://pastebin.ca/1235604
[13:02] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok. please confirm that you have system/administration/restricted drivers menu
[13:02] <hagus> My cups server is on http://localhost:631/printers
[13:02] <Decepticon> blue-frog hhow can i do that?
[13:03] <hagus> or even localhost:631
[13:03] <laughfunny> dafka!
[13:03]  * hagus is an old codger
[13:03] <mkartic> how do i convert a .sh to an executable? its something to with chmod, but am not sure how!
[13:03] <mok0> Anyone know how to setup xsane with a USB scanner so you don't need to be root to run it?
[13:03] <IdleOne> Decepticon: look in the System menu on the top panel
[13:03] <blue-frog> Decepticon: on your menu bar applications / places / system
[13:03] <laughfunny> mok), makexec
[13:03] <Slart> mkartic: chmod a+x filename.sh
[13:03] <mkartic> thanks
[13:03] <Decepticon> blue-frog, does it matter that i havent restarted X since i did ALL those commands you told me to do
[13:03] <Slart> mkartic: and you don't convert it.. you change the permissions of the file
[13:04] <blue-frog> Decepticon: no
[13:04] <kiosk> server mesra.dal.net
[13:04] <mkartic> gotcha!
[13:04] <mkartic> and what directory do i have to put it to make it available globally?
[13:04] <Slart> mkartic: I think you can even right click on it in nautlius and check the checkbox for "executable"
[13:04] <Decepticon> blue-frog i see no indication of 'restricted drivers' in the system menu
[13:05] <Decepticon> blue-frog i do see however is 'hardware drivers';
[13:05] <blue-frog> Decepticon: hardware drivers maybe then
[13:05] <blue-frog> Decepticon: yes hardware drivers
[13:06] <Decepticon> hardware drivers says 'no proiprietary drivers are uin use ion this system'
[13:06] <blue-frog> Decepticon: don't click right away on nvidia if it shows
[13:06] <kristo> witam wszystkich
[13:06] <blue-frog> Decepticon: so the box is empty, correct?
[13:06] <Decepticon> yes it is empty, bluedusk
[13:06] <Decepticon> * blue-frog
[13:07] <blue-frog> Decepticon: lsmod | grep nvidia    gives?
[13:07] <haqe43> How to start iceweasel on tty7 from a pseudo terminal?
[13:07] <Decepticon> blue-frog it gives http://pastebin.ca/1235608
[13:08] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo rmmod nvidia
[13:08] <arunprabhu1989> dg:u der?
[13:08] <Decepticon> blue-frog done
[13:08] <Decepticon> now lsmod | grep nvidia gives nothing
[13:09] <jrib> haqe43: what do you mean by "pseudo terminal"?  If you have X running on tty7 and DISPLAY is set there to ":0.0" say, you can just do: DISPLAY=:0.0 iceweasel_binary     somewhere else to have it run in tty7
[13:09] <haqe43> jrib: im running in screen
[13:10] <jrib> haqe43: k
[13:10] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old
[13:10] <frith> is there anyway to get my current sessions to notice that i have added myself into a new group?
[13:10] <Decepticon> blue-frog okay
[13:11] <jrib> frith: nope, log out and log back in.  If you just need to do something in a shell, you can get a new one by doing newgrp
[13:11] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe-old
[13:12] <Decepticon> blue-frog gotcha
[13:12] <frith> jrib, sigh :) logging out is so windows
[13:12] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[13:12] <haqe43> jrib: thanks it works nice. im going to alias it
[13:12] <graft> hi, i have issues where my screen flickers to black, i think usually when i'm watching flash videos (not fullscreened)
[13:12] <scan_> ha
[13:12] <Decepticon> blue-frog is this step what i would have done after a fresh install of ubuntu?
[13:12] <graft> i've got desktop effects enabled and an ati radeon mobility card
[13:12] <hagus> Have managed to get the printer to work using socket
[13:13] <Decepticon> blue-frog, just incase i want to reinstall for any reason?
[13:13] <Decepticon> blue-frog okay done
[13:13] <darkarchon> hey i have some problems with my ati hd3850. neither envy nor the driver from ati or the original xorg-fglrx drivers works. they all lock up in a black screen which results in a reboot
[13:13] <hagus> Sorry to have bothered you, folks.
[13:13] <Bodsda> graft, do you have the same problem when you disable desktop effects?
[13:13]  * hagus disappears
[13:13] <blue-frog> Decepticon: after fresh install, normally a pop up should appeared (hardware drivers) telling you you could use restricted drivers to enable full (or almost) support for your card
[13:13] <graft> Bodsda: err, hm, no, i should test that, eh?
[13:14] <graft> Bodsda: that is, i don't know
[13:14] <Bodsda> graft, its probably the desktop effects -- they dont play nice with ati's :)
[13:14] <blue-frog> Decepticon: then it would have been just a matter of clicking on the nvidia choice in the hardware drivers box
[13:14] <Decepticon> blue-frog after a fresh install of 8.04, i had no X
[13:14] <graft> Bodsda: well, is there a workaround for something like this, or must i do without?
[13:14] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ah
[13:15] <Decepticon> blue-frog, okay so after the installing of nvidia-glx-new, what shall i be doing
[13:15] <blue-frog> Decepticon: alternate install or desktop?
[13:15] <Bodsda> graft, im not sure -- if turning desktop effects off fixes the problem you could try reinstalling your ati drivers to try and get them to play nicer with the effects on -- but im not sure
[13:16] <Decepticon> blue-frog, i used the livecd to test how hardware would work, it gave me no X so someone told me that i would have to use the alt install cd to install...
[13:16] <Decepticon> so i used the alt install cd
[13:16] <Decepticon> without testing regular install
[13:16] <Decepticon> alternate install of the desktop version of ubuntu
[13:16] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok. you will need to reboot. I am not sure if it's gonna work then as I haveb't upgraded my fx5200 to hardy yet, still in feisty
[13:17] <Decepticon> hm ok, i will reboot now
[13:17] <blue-frog> Decepticon: but in feisty it does work with glx-new
[13:17] <Bodsda> has intrepid been released yet?
[13:17] <graft> release is oct 30th
[13:17] <Bodsda> phew, fixed my internet just in time then :) ty graft
[13:18] <munichlinux> unable to play audio after played audio in the browser.
[13:19] <Decepticon> blue-frog, after reboot, theres a black screen after ubuntu loading orange bar fills up. this is the same situation i was in after a fresh install (that X is not loading up properly)
[13:19] <munichlinux> i guess some process is holding the audio devide
[13:19] <munichlinux> how to debug this
[13:19] <Bodsda> im getting shed loads of parser errors while doing update&upgrade -- has anyone had similiar problems?
[13:19] <trask> my system have crashed a lot recently, is it possible its because of pidgin or firefox? those are my main suspects. they give loads of segmentation faults.
[13:21] <blue-frog> Decepticon: laptop? desktop?
[13:21] <Decepticon> blue-frog its a desktop
[13:21] <paul68> can somebody help me out with advanced dns and dhcp configuration?
[13:21] <Decepticon> with a geforce fx 5200
[13:22] <blue-frog> Decepticon: so you are in low graphics again? or no screen at all?
[13:22] <Rockj> how can I change default media player that ubuntu shows up for my iPod?
[13:22] <Slart> trask: have you checked your memory lately? computer running hot? firefox and pidgin crashing might be symptoms, not causes
[13:22] <Decepticon> blue-frog no screen at all, black screen
[13:22] <Gothfunc> why after i mount a cifs share would it report "not a directory" after i try to ls the contents?
[13:22] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ctrl alt F1 to switch to console
[13:22] <Decepticon> okay
[13:23] <deadlyninja> im starting a machine over NFS and the kernel loads fine and everything works until i hit rc?.d/S28NetworkManager and then it appears my nfs mount is lost. what should i do to fix it? (currently im working around it by not starting networkmanager, but thats not good enough)
[13:23] <blue-frog> Decepticon: login and    grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:23] <defrysk> Rockj, rightclik the file select properties, and then the open with tab
[13:23] <ikonia> deadlyninja why do you need network manager ? you've  already set you networking if you've done an NFS boot
[13:23] <trask> slart, ive changed graphics card, kernel updated, swapped system manager to openbox. still it happens a lot. but you might have a point, i should find some software to diagnoze my system.
[13:24] <Decepticon> blue-frog, apparently: grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[13:24] <Slart> trask: try the memtester on the live cd.. leave it running for a night or so
[13:24] <deadlyninja> ikonia for wireless networking, i boot off a local network but need access to the internet
[13:24] <Rockj> defrysk, but when plugging in the iPod, it automagically fires up rythmbox even if banshee is open.. banshee doesn't detect the ipod when rythmbox "steals" it
[13:24] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[13:24] <Decepticon> blue-frog we mvd the xorg.conf to xorg.conf-old i tjink, and it hasnt regenerated since reboot
[13:24] <ikonia> deadlyninja: but you must realise that stop/starting network manager will reconfigure your network devices
[13:24] <Decepticon> blue-frog ok
[13:24] <Gothfunc> ikonia: thanks for the help yesterday, that method worked well
[13:24] <ikonia> Gothfunc: ahhh good, glad your running,
[13:25] <blue-frog> Decepticon: try using the driver called   nv
[13:25] <trask> slart, that software i like, sounds like a good idea, helped me find errors on a freinds machine
[13:25] <deadlyninja> ikonia: is there anyway to exclude one?
[13:25] <ikonia> deadlyninja: excude one what ?
[13:25] <Gothfunc> ikonia: at first i panicked because the whole system messed up, but then i found out i hadn't chgrped the home dir ;)
[13:25] <blue-frog> Decepticon: if any called   nv    (otherwise nvidia if any)
[13:25] <deadlyninja> ikonia: is there any way to exclude a network adapter from getting reset by NetworkManager
[13:25] <ikonia> Gothfunc: ahhhhhh of crouse, should have managed that
[13:25] <ikonia> deadlyninja: no idea, networkmanager is the devil
[13:26] <Decepticon> blue-frog: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[13:26] <blue-frog> Decepticon: any by default
[13:26] <blue-frog> anything
[13:26] <defrysk> Rockj, system > preferred applications
[13:26] <bridie> Hi guys.  I've somehow managed to screw up compiz on hardy and would really appreciate some help fixing it.  I was fiddling last night and now, when I go to the "Visual Effects" tab in the appearance setting and try and turn eyecandy on, I get an error message saying desktop effects could not be enabled.
[13:26] <Rockj> defrysk, tried, no changes.  does it require a relogon maybe?
[13:26] <ikonia> bridie: most common cause is your not using hardware acceleration on your video card
[13:27] <blue-frog> Decepticon: did you use the   nv   driver?
[13:27] <Slart> bridie: I had the same problem a while ago.. found a little utility that helped me.. hang on, let me find that webpage again
[13:27] <bridie> ikonia: OK - so how would I check that
[13:27] <Decepticon> blue-frog it didnt ask me anything about drivers... it just asked me 4 questions about keyboard
[13:27] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok
[13:27] <defrysk> Rockj, you changed rhythmbox to banshee there ?
[13:27] <ikonia> bridie: glxgears -info
[13:27] <Rockj> defrysk, yes I did.
[13:27] <bridie> ikonia - the gears appear OK
[13:28] <blue-frog> Decepticon: reconfigure is over?  I assume you have an xorg.conf now
[13:28] <defrysk> Rockj, maybe you haqve to restart X yes, you could try that
[13:28] <ikonia> bridie: check the info output and see if dri ie enabled
[13:28] <Decepticon> blue-frog yes, recofnigure is over, it only asked me questions about keyboad
[13:28] <Decepticon> blue-frog should i grep xorg.conf for nvidia again
[13:29] <Rockj> defrysk, oki - Ill go for a reboot. brb
[13:29] <defrysk> Rockj, not a reboot
[13:29] <bridie> ikonia: The output in the console?
[13:29] <ikonia> bircorrect
[13:29] <defrysk> Rockj, ctrl-alt-backspace
[13:29] <ikonia> bridie: correct
[13:29] <FyR3> er irc.redebrasil.org.br
[13:29] <blue-frog> Decepticon: no. we will try now to see what it does.   sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[13:29] <ikonia> bridie: what video card are you using ?
[13:29] <Bodsda> blue-frog, just thought i'd mention the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command no longer asks about graphics, you have to reboot, choose recovery from grub then choose the 'xfix' option
[13:30] <Decepticon> blue-frog, its a black screen still
[13:30] <PassionFRUI7E> I finally installed ubuntu.  But it didnt recognize my graphics.  On windows I downloaded the ATI driver for linux for radeon hd 3200.  its a run file.  How do I run this in root?
[13:30] <bridie> ikonia:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:30] <ikonia> PassionFRUI7E: you don't need to do that
[13:30] <ikonia> !ati > PassionFRUI7E
[13:30] <bridie> ikonia: heres the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/61963/
[13:30] <kolombino> how i list the software in my conputer with apt¿
[13:31] <lucax> PassionFRUI7E, try searching in synaptic the ati drivers... use the repos first
[13:31] <ikonia> bridie: ahh ok, that looks quite good
[13:31] <blue-frog> Decepticon: back to console
[13:31] <Flynsarmy> If i installed the 8.10 release candidate would it be telling me it wants to do a distribution upgrade when the final version comes out in a week or will it just be a regular update like all other updates?
[13:31] <Decepticon> blue-frog okay
[13:31] <defrysk> Flynsarmy, thats about it yes
[13:31] <Vicysex> ciao
[13:32] <Flynsarmy> defrysk, your answer is ambiguous
[13:32] <Slart> bridie: try this little script http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[13:32] <ikonia> bridie: in my view first thing I'd do is open ccsm and set the compiz settigns to default, get it working like that first, then move forward
[13:32] <blue-frog> Decepticon: have a look at tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:32] <Rockj> defrysk, reboot didn't help. (I could just aswell do a reboot when I had to close my applications)
[13:32] <Slart> bridie: it checks for all kinds of stuff.. and even fixes some of them
[13:32] <defrysk> Flynsarmy, if you are uncertain, its better to wait
[13:32] <blue-frog> Decepticon: for an eventual error
[13:32] <Vicysex> !list
[13:33] <Bodsda> kolombino, try    apt-cache pkgnames
[13:33] <Decepticon> blue-frog (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[13:33] <Rockj> defrysk, iPod icon on my desktop, if I right click it and open it with banshee, songs get added but still missing the iPod bar and sync for banshee
[13:33] <lucax> Flynsarmy, if u install the beta, ull only need to so an update after, wont need to download again the iso and install all over again...
[13:33] <defrysk> Rockj, you probably have to change a setting in gconf, but that is beyon my abilities
[13:33] <blue-frog> Decepticon: lsmod | grep nvidia
[13:33] <bridie> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61965/
[13:33] <Rockj> defrysk, I've had the same issues with last ubuntu install too, when I had to change it to amarok for working
[13:33] <kolombino> thanks Bodsda
[13:33] <ikonia> bridie your card looks fine
[13:34] <Flynsarmy> lucax, thanks
[13:34] <Decepticon> blue-frog that retubns blank
[13:34] <ikonia> bridie: looks setup fine and running fine
[13:34] <ikonia> bridie: set the compiz settings back to default
[13:34] <Slart> bridie: well.. it was worth a try..
[13:34] <ikonia> bridie: then work forward
[13:34] <blue-frog> Decepticon: you have an xorg.conf now by the way or still not?
[13:34] <ReAn> ubuntu server typically doesn't come with X right?
[13:34] <bridie> ikonia: I've opened cssm.  How to I reset to default?
[13:34] <Slart> ReAn: I don't think so, no
[13:34] <Decepticon> blue-frog yes, it looks pretty default
[13:34] <bridie> slart: thanks though :)
[13:34] <toggles_w> ReAn: trudat
[13:35] <ikonia> bridie: I've not go it in fron of me but there is an option to reset to default
[13:35] <ReAn> is it possible to obtain?
[13:35] <Slart> bridie: you're welcome
[13:35] <Decepticon> blue-frog my xorg.conf looks pretty default
[13:35] <b1> allom
[13:35] <Slart> ReAn: afaik you can just install it from the repos the normal way
[13:35] <ikonia> ReAn: yes, but if you want a gui you should consuider the desktop install (it makes a great server) and it aimed at home hardware
[13:35] <ReAn> ikonia: it's not that, I need a temporary gui
[13:35] <blue-frog> Decepticon: got you.   less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:35] <ReAn> I plan to run a server in VMWare as a LAMP development box
[13:35] <ikonia> ReAn: what for, there maybe a short cut
[13:35] <blue-frog> Decepticon: looking for the Section "Device3
[13:36] <blue-frog> Decepticon: looking for the Section "Device3
[13:36] <ReAn> however @ my uni to get internet access you have to log in
[13:36] <blue-frog> Decepticon: looking for the Section "Device", sorry for flood
[13:36] <Slart> ReAn: links or lynx might work?
[13:36] <ReAn> so i need to be able to go to a Javascript Enabled website
[13:36] <Decepticon> blue-frog, im looking at it. it says Section "Device"; Identifier "Configured Video Device"; EndSection;
[13:36] <bridie> ikonia: OK, went to preferences, reset to default.
[13:36] <ikonia> bridie ahh well done
[13:37] <ReAn> hell, even a super super basic X interface would work (like fluxbox or something)
[13:37] <ikonia> ReAn: install the xubuntu-desktop package
[13:37] <ReAn> i just need to load a samba instance basically
[13:37] <Karansac> Hello!
[13:37] <bridie> ikonia: Still nothing working though when I re-check them
[13:37] <blue-frog> Decepticon: I suppose that in section module you have load glx?
[13:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Anybody know how to get "Atheros ar5009 802.1a/g/n wifi adapter" to work?  I can't do anything in linux without internets =P
[13:37] <Decepticon> blue-frog there is no such indication
[13:38] <ikonia> bridie: first thing - reset to default, and it may seem stupid, but reboot to make sure you x session is "sane" after making the changes
[13:38] <Decepticon> blue-frog this xorg.conf is very vanilla
[13:38] <bridie> ikonia: OK.  will reboot now and report back in a couple of minutes.  thanks
[13:38] <ikonia> bridie: I'll be here
[13:38] <ReAn> ikonia: i dont want the desktop version, im only loading X for about 5 minutes then i want console only basically
[13:38] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo modprobe nvidia && lsmod | grep nvidia
[13:38] <ReAn> ubuntu desktop edition is too "user-oriented"
[13:38] <ReAn> for me
[13:38] <ikonia> ReAn: ok, install xorg
[13:39] <Karansac> I'm installing a program via Adept (JRE). The contract appears, I have to select "ok", but I can't. I tried to use de "tab" button, and the arrows but it doesn't work
[13:39] <Karansac> any ideas?
[13:39] <Decepticon> blue-frog that gives "Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:39] <PassionFRUI7E> Bump =/
[13:39] <Decepticon> blue-frog should i be adding load glx somewhere in xorg.conf?
[13:39] <ikonia> PassionFRUI7E: saying bump is pointless, if someone didn't see your question "bump" won't show them, if they don't know the answer saying "bump" won't make them know
[13:39] <idesprado> Hello,everyone...is there anybody who can help me out with my problem of installation of ubuntu from harddisk???
[13:40] <blue-frog> Decepticon: in xorg.conf section device add    Driver   "nvidia"
[13:40] <ikonia> idesprado: explain your problem and someone maybe able to help
[13:40] <takao> whatds the chinese channel address?
[13:40] <Flynsarmy> is there any major downside in installing the release candidate?
[13:40] <ikonia> !cn > takao
[13:40] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: it's not stable
[13:41] <takao> ikonia, thanks
[13:41] <Decepticon> blue-frog one sec
[13:41] <Slart> Flynsarmy: there are lots of people running it in #ubuntu+1
[13:41] <Slart> Flynsarmy: might get better answers by asking there
[13:41] <defrysk> Flynsarmy, its better to wait, and if you want to know more about intrepid, go to ubuntu+1
[13:41] <bridie> ikonia: Still no joy I'm afraid
[13:41] <ikonia> bridie: thats ok, wat least your on a sane platform now
[13:41] <Decepticon> blue-frog it looks like this right now http://pastebin.ca/1235633
[13:42] <ikonia> bridie: so how are you trying to enable it
[13:42] <skurakai1> hi. i need help with createtorrent - if i use command "createtorrent -a http:/xxx/announce/announce.php yyy zzz it make me torrent with bad annonce :(
[13:42] <bridie> ikonia: That's a good thing :)
[13:42] <error404notfound> is there a software under ubuntu that can contain those old asci images for a given text, or asci images of man, computer etc?
[13:42] <graft> arr... when will i be able to enjoy my ati card with compositing and xv enabled?
[13:42] <graft> never?
[13:42] <ikonia> graft: ati cards are touch and go
[13:42] <bridie> ikonia: I've tried enabling specific plugins in cssm and also in the appearance settings, under the "visual effects" tab.
[13:42] <graft> what can i accomplish with the radeon drivers?
[13:42] <PassionFRUI7E> Does anyone know how to get/install the Atheros AR5009 802.11a/g/n wifi adapter or similar?  I need internets so I can get on irc within linux.
[13:42] <ikonia> graft: ati cards are touch and go, varying ranges of usability
[13:43] <ikonia> bridie: ok, so you get a popup saying "can't be enabled"
[13:43] <blue-frog> Decepticon: yes. add a new line blow identifier in section devicein xorg.conf section device add    Driver   "nvidia"
[13:43] <Decepticon> blue-frog it looks like this now http://pastebin.ca/1235636
[13:43] <defrysk> skurakai1, ask in a room which supports your app
[13:43] <Decepticon> blue-frog okay done, in the new paste
[13:43] <bridie> ikonia: Yep
[13:43] <skurakai1> no room for this
[13:43] <blue-frog>  Decepticon save and try sudo modprobe nvidia  again
[13:43] <skurakai1> it is basic app for ubuntu
[13:43] <Slart> !wifi | PassionFRUI7E, this is all the info I know of:
[13:43] <defrysk> what app is it ?
[13:44] <skurakai1> createtorrent
[13:44] <Decepticon> blue-frog: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[13:44] <ikonia> bridie: ok, so you've got a card (same as my laptop) that we know is setup to work - you enable compiz settings and it borks
[13:44] <ikonia> bridie: what did you do to actually break it
[13:44] <error404notfound> ping.... anyone?
[13:45] <ikonia> error404notfound: what ?
[13:45] <Slart> error404notfound: pong?
[13:45] <scampbell> graft: while I can't solve your radeon woes you can do what I did about it, open a help ticket with ATI and ask them for help with it, when they tell you 'no' tell them how disappointed you are with that answer.  The help desk tickets get counted and reported, it's an effective way to tell them what you, the consumer, expects.
[13:45] <bridie> ikonia: Yeah, I know it definitely works as I've been using for months now.  I was fiddling around trying to enable the cylinder (instead of cube) I think.  Last night though I thought I'd be smart and remove all compiz things from synaptic and re-install.  It hasn't helped.
[13:45] <ikonia> bridie ahhh so you've removed cmopiz
[13:45] <ikonia> bridie: why did you think that would help????
[13:45] <cast> works in windows!
[13:45] <bridie> ikonia: I thought I'd re-installed though
[13:46]  * cast hides
[13:46] <graft> scampbell: good idea, i'll do that
[13:46] <ikonia> bridie: why would a re-install help ?
[13:46] <Mamoru_Sabishii> is there a way to redownload the updates
[13:46] <error404notfound> ikonia: Slart: a software that can create ascii text, like those old pics of a man using 0,1,0 ...
[13:46] <blue-frog> Decepticon: dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ii | awk '{print$2}'  | xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge -y
[13:46] <Slart> error404notfound: gedit?
[13:46] <ikonia> Slart: funny, nice
[13:46] <blue-frog> Decepticon: sudo updatedb && locate nvidia
[13:46] <bridie> ikonia: I have absolutely no idea :)  Just seemed like something worth trying.  Re-installing samba actually fixed a recurring problem for me yesterday. so maybe I was getting cocky :)
[13:47] <Decepticon> blue-frog that command unstalled nvidia-glx-new
[13:47] <error404notfound> Slart: nope, not manuall.. something in which you will to just give a text
[13:47] <ikonia> bridie so what packages did you re-install
[13:47] <blue-frog> Decepticon: and nvidia-common or kernel-common?
[13:47] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, apt-get upgrade -d
[13:47] <bridie> ikonia: one sec - opening synaptic
[13:47] <ikonia> error404notfound there are web pages that will do it for you, ratehr than software packages
[13:47] <Slart> error404notfound: I'm not quite sure I understand what you want? do you want to create ascii picture? show them?
[13:47] <Decepticon> blue-frog theres too many results to list for the command 'sudo updatedb && locate nvidia'
[13:47] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, -d is the download only flag
[13:47] <Decepticon> blue-frog it didnt uninstall those two that you mention
[13:48] <error404notfound> ikonia: hmmm, like?
[13:48] <ikonia> error404notfound: have a google, I found one ages ago to make my /etc/motd
[13:48] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: ok so the file will be at /var/cache/apt/archives?
[13:48] <error404notfound> ikonia: and what exactly to search/.
[13:48] <bridie> compiz, compiz bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins etc (there's quite a few packages.)
[13:48] <Slart> error404notfound: take a look at this one, is this what you want? http://www.degraeve.com/img2txt.php
[13:48] <blue-frog> Decepticon: must be your .run file interfering
[13:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Okay I know completely nothing about linux and all these tutorials make no sense to me.  Is there any way for me to get wireless internet that I can understand?
[13:48] <ikonia> error404notfound assci art generator
[13:48] <Dark_Fire> Hi
[13:48] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, actually they should still be there
[13:48] <ikonia> error404notfound be creative
[13:48] <blue-frog> Decepticon: dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ii | awk '{print$2}'  gives nothing now, correct?
[13:49] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: hum i acidentally apt-get clean them so there none there
[13:50] <Decepticon> im not sure why 'dpkg -l nvidia* | grep ii | awk '{print$2}'' gives "No packages found matching nvidia.txt." .... what is nvidia.txt ??
[13:50] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, tricky then
[13:50] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, since you have them already installed
[13:50] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: i need the updates to copy them to the other client
[13:50] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm...uninstall linux?  k i will.
[13:51] <blue-frog> Decepticon: good question. dunno
[13:51] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: 14 client with slow internet connection
[13:51] <Decepticon> blue-frog sudo updatedb && locate nvidia gives these results: http://pastebin.ca/1235638
[13:51] <jrib> Decepticon: nvidia* gets expanded to it, probably because you have nvidia-txt in your current working directory.  You want: 'nvidia*' instead
[13:51] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, not sure, It should be possible but you have to ask someone else
[13:51] <idesprado> Hello...there...
[13:51] <idesprado> anybody help me?
[13:51] <Mamoru_Sabishii> okay
[13:51] <Decepticon> oh
[13:51] <Decepticon> ok
[13:51] <sorf2993> ikonia hello
[13:51]  * Decepticon rm's nvidia.txt
[13:51] <bridie> ikonia: http://i36.tinypic.com/3zmus.png   and    http://i38.tinypic.com/w0j50h.png
[13:52] <defrysk> !anybody > idesprado
[13:52] <jrib> Decepticon: ... just put quotes around it like I said
[13:52] <idesprado> I can't install ubuntu 8.10beta from harddisk
[13:52] <Pici> !ibex | idesprado
[13:52] <ikonia> sorf2993 yes ?
[13:52] <Decepticon> blue-frog, the updated command with quotes gives no result for nvidia
[13:52] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok all the nvidia stuff in your puter comes from the run file I presume
[13:53] <Puppy> afternoon all
[13:53] <blue-frog> Decepticon: well part of it at least
[13:53] <ikonia> bridie: ooh your in kde, I'm not sure how it fits together in kde
[13:53] <Decepticon> blue-frog, i am willing to reinstall if thats what this takes
[13:53] <bridie> ikonia: I'm not in KDE....
[13:53] <ikonia> bridie ooh, I thought you where installing kde packages, sorry
[13:53] <bridie> ikonia: that one in the pic is highlighted just randomly :)
[13:54] <trask> nvidia, that reminds me, ubuntu homepage said 7600 cards were recommended, does that mean use of non-proprietary drivers are working great? or just the cards means less bugs?
[13:54] <ikonia> bridie install the package "compiz-fusion" - make sure it pulls down all the deps
[13:54] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, you could do the upgrade on an older machine to see what packeges are needed , after that you can do an apt-get install <liste packages> -r
[13:54] <ikonia> sorf2993: please do not use ctcp finger requests on random people in the channel
[13:54] <w0ls0n> hello all. I have a GeForce 6200 installed with ubuntu 7.04. Can someone tell me how to increase the res past 800x600? The unsupported driver only goes up to 640x480
[13:54] <bridie> ikonia: E: Couldn't find package compiz-fusion
[13:54] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, on your faster machine that is
[13:54] <blue-frog> Decepticon: frankly I would do that instead of fiddling over and over
[13:55] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, -r stands for reinstall
[13:55] <Decepticon> blue-frog i dont mind it, i dont have any data on this machine
[13:55] <Decepticon> blue-frog should i do it?
[13:55] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: at the office so slow but not at home. pc at home quite fast
[13:55] <Decepticon> blue-frog it may take a while, ill have to contact you a bit later if i go through with it and try to figure out how to get the driver to work
[13:55] <blue-frog> Decepticon: could you get a hold on an intrepid 8.10 disk by chance?
[13:55] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, run the upgrade just to see what packages are required, not to actually upgrade
[13:55] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: i just need the updates to copy them to the other clients (14 of them)
[13:56] <Decepticon> blue-frog the release candidtate?
[13:56] <Decepticon> blue-frog yes, it will take a bit longer only
[13:56] <blue-frog> Decepticon: yes whatever. but if you have 8.04 handy just reinstall 8.04
[13:56] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, if you knowe the package names you can reinstall them on your faster machine and the packages wil be in the archives again
[13:56] <Decepticon> blue-frog i have 8.04 reguar and 8.04 alternate and 8.04 server
[13:57] <Mamoru_Sabishii> okay i will try that
[13:57] <Mamoru_Sabishii> :d
[13:57] <Mamoru_Sabishii> thx
[13:57] <blue-frog> Decepticon: with desktop 8.04, you have a working screen?
[13:57] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, its a dirty trick but should work :)
[13:57] <ikonia> bridie: do  a search for compiz-fusion I thought the meta package was called compiz-fusion too, but I've not got an ubuntu box to check
[13:57] <Decepticon> blue-frog, on the desktop 8.04 regular livecd, there is a black screen just as there is now
[13:57] <Decepticon> blue-frog that is the reason i installed with the alternate install cd
[13:57] <Sirious_Toast> hello, does anyone have time for a noob? :)
[13:58] <hateball> !ask | Sirious_Toast
[13:58] <blue-frog> Decepticon: try getting 8.10 then. if you use same cds, you're gonna endup with same problems
[13:58] <Decepticon> alright
[13:58] <blue-frog> Decepticon: wait
[13:58] <Decepticon> blue-frog ?
[13:58] <bridie> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61983/
[13:58] <w0ls0n> anyone? bueller?
[13:59] <blue-frog> when you installed with alternate, you had normal screen / no screen /low graphics? which one just after the install?
[13:59] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk:  any way i need to re-install my pc tho :D, what i do get the updates, copy them to usb from /var/cache/apt/archives  >>> copy them to clients same directory  >> and run sudo apt-get update. am i right
[13:59] <ikonia> w0ls0n saying anyone is pointless, if they missed the question anyone doesn't tell them it, if they don't know the answer saying anyone doesn't make them know it
[13:59] <blue-frog> Decepticon: when you installed with alternate, you had normal screen / no screen /low graphics? which one just after the install?
[13:59] <Decepticon> using both the normal cd and the alternate cd, i ended up with a black screen for X
[13:59] <Sirious_Toast> i'm a ubuntu virgin, trying to install vmware tools, it says i need to be logged in as "super user" when i installed ubuntu it didn't setup any kinda of Administration account, any ideas?
[13:59] <ikonia> bridie: it's not those packages, I've not got a box to check it for you I'm afraid
[13:59] <Decepticon> blue-frog using both the normal cd and the alternate cd, i ended up with a black screen for X
[14:00] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, you could do that or do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[14:00] <blue-frog> Decepticon: no use reinstalling 8.04 then to my mind
[14:00] <jrib> !vmware | Sirious_Toast
[14:00] <jrib> !sudo > Sirious_Toast
[14:00] <Decepticon> blue-frog ok, it will take me a bit to dl 8.10 rc
[14:00] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, but your suggestion should work fine :)
[14:00] <blue-frog> Decepticon: ok going away for a good while anyway
[14:01] <Decepticon> blue-frog will you be available later?
[14:01] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: the command right? sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get update on the others client
[14:01] <blue-frog> Decepticon: what do you call later? 1 hour 2? more?
[14:01] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:01] <bridie> ikonia: And it's not one of the ones I've already checked in synaptic, like "compiz" or "compiz-core" ?
[14:02] <Decepticon> blue-frog i know the download will take a while, and the install takes at least 45 minutes, so i would say around 4 hours later
[14:02] <blue-frog> Decepticon: make 5 or 6 and it'll be ok with me
[14:02] <ikonia> bridie it could be, but I was expecting a meta-package like ubuntu-desktop that contains it all
[14:02] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: okay thx alot run sudo apt-get update 1st then sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:02] <Mamoru_Sabishii> thx :D
[14:02] <Decepticon> blue-frog sounds good
[14:02] <defrysk> Mamoru_Sabishii, cool :) and good luck
[14:02] <Sirious_Toast> thanx for your help :D
[14:02] <bridie> ikonia: "compiz" came with a lot of dependencies when I installed that I believe.
[14:02] <ikonia> bridie: maybe it is just compiz then
[14:03] <ikonia> bridie: didn't think it was, but maybe it is
[14:03] <bridie> ikonia: desc: This meta-package provides the components necessary for running compiz. It provides the compiz core, a set of standard plugins, a window decorator using the Gtk toolkit and the files necessary to integrate compiz with the GNOME desktop environment.
[14:03] <ikonia> bridie: sounds good
[14:03] <ikonia> bridie: your going to have to start looking in your xorg logs and your syslogs to find out clues why it's not starting then
[14:04] <hey_> hey
[14:04] <mkartic> what package should i install to have <query.h>
[14:04] <dan01> Hi, when the new version of Ubuntu is released, would it be safe to install it on my Thinkpad T60p?  I am mostly worried about the 'bug' that caused excessive hard drive wear due to some issues bewteen Linux & Power management.
[14:04] <ikonia> dan01: check the bug status in launch[ad to see if it is fixed in 8.10
[14:04] <bridie> ikonia: Where do I find the logs to check, and what should I look for?
[14:05] <jrib> mkartic: check with packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file
[14:05] <ikonia> bridie: /var/log - look for clues to compiz/xorg problems
[14:05] <mkartic> thanks
[14:07] <ruster> nick nilwinto
[14:09] <bahadunn> got intrepid running in virtualbox
[14:09] <bahadunn> looks pretty nice
[14:09] <ikonia> bahadunn: join #ubuntu+1 please for 8.10 chat
[14:09] <dan01> ikonia, do you happen to know the bug ID #?  I couldn't find it, which is why I am asking here.
[14:09] <bahadunn> ikonia: no thanks I didnt really want to chat about it
[14:10] <ikonia> dan01 sorry no
[14:10] <ikonia> bahadunn: ok - so don't start chatting about it then
[14:10] <bahadunn> ikonia: believe me if I had known I would not have even so much have commented about it
[14:10] <bahadunn> ikonia: especially knowing how IRC channels are these days
[14:10] <ikonia> bahadunn when you join a channel type "/topic" always good to see the channels topic
[14:11] <bridie> ikonia: Can't see anything except this http://i38.tinypic.com/1zxsk6t.png
[14:11] <bahadunn> ikonia: I have been idling here for a while and I am sorry I dont check the topic every day
[14:12] <ikonia> bahadunn no need to apologise
[14:12] <bahadunn> ikonia: well I didnt mean to put anyone off
[14:12] <ikonia> bridie thats not good, compiz is segfaulting
[14:12] <bahadunn> ikonia: and you pownced pretty hard so... an apology seems in order
[14:12] <ikonia> bahadunn: not at all
[14:12] <ikonia> bahadunn zero need
[14:13] <elvis123> can i convert a normal install of ubuntu 7.10 to a raid 5 later on?
[14:14] <CoLd> ubuntu 8.10 in novembrrr :(
[14:14] <ikonia> CoLd what ?
[14:14] <bahadunn> CoLd: better watch yourself
[14:14] <CoLd> ubuntu coming soon, loooonger date
[14:15] <ikonia> CoLd the date on the website is 30th October as it has always been
[14:15] <CoLd> 31 october is november kkk
[14:15] <rc1985> morning! i have done an apt-get updat / upgrade / dist-upgrade on my hardy heron. but some packages did not install, like dbus and hal. tried some dpkgs comands,but did not solve. any help?
[14:15] <XLV> elvis123, its going to be tricky but it can be done.. you will add the two or more hdds for raid5, create a degraded raid5 array on the two new hdds, copy installation to the degraded raid5 array, then add the original hdd to raid5 array
[14:15] <ikonia> CoLd: if you want to discuss it please join #ubuntu+1
[14:15] <bahadunn> CoLd: told you so
[14:15] <ikonia> bahadunn drop it
[14:15] <CoLd> ship it kkkkkk
[14:15] <chadeldridge> All, I get a segfault when i click any button in gedit ... any clues?
[14:15] <bridie> ikonia: So what should I do?
[14:16] <bahadunn> ikonia: just warning others about to make the same mistake as me
[14:16] <ikonia> bridie not sure why your getting a segfault at this moment in time
[14:16] <bahadunn> I cannot see how that would be a problem
[14:16] <elvis123> XLV i already have 3 500GB drives
[14:16] <bahadunn> looking out for my fellow ubuntu user is all
[14:16] <ikonia> bahadunn no you where not, you where trying to be clever "watch your self" then "told you" thats not wawrning each other
[14:16] <elvis123> but I am fins=ding it next to impossible to config a raid 5
[14:16] <bridie> ikonia: Is there no way to just completely remove compiz from the system and start again from scratch?
[14:17] <ikonia> bridie well thats what you did, and look what you've got
[14:17] <bahadunn> ikonia: if you say so
[14:17] <bazhang> !ot | bahadunn
[14:17] <Mr_Fixit> which file do i add sudoers too?
[14:17] <bazhang> please take chat elsewhere bahadunn
[14:17] <ikonia> elvis123 what sort of raid 5 ? software/hardware/fakeraid /
[14:17] <elvis123> software
[14:17] <ikonia> elvis123: as in linux mdadm software ?
[14:17] <chadeldridge> !pastebin
[14:17] <XLV> elvis123, yeah, the procedure wont change.. if you already have 3 new hdds that you would use as raid5 array, then you dont need to create a degraded raid5 array, but a clean one, then you need to move ubuntu installation to raid5 array.. what i mentioned before was in the case you want to use the hdd you got now the ubuntu install in the raid array
[14:18] <bridie> ikonia: Yeah, but was thinking perhaps I did it wrong.  Am really not looking forward to doing a fresh install of the os :(
[14:18] <elvis123> yes
[14:18] <ikonia> elvis123: what command arey ou using
[14:18] <ikonia> bridie: I can understand that, I guess you could try sudo apt-get --reinstall compiz
[14:18] <ikonia> bridie: no promise that will make it better though
[14:18] <chadeldridge> Can i have someone look at this pastbin for me and see if you can figure out what to do?  When i click any icon in gedit i get a segfault: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61996/
[14:18] <rc1985> nm... for some reason, apt-get install -f resolved now.
[14:18] <rc1985> computers...
[14:19] <s0nix> ls
[14:19] <s0nix> hi ppl.
[14:19] <ArthuD> hi people. I accidently typed chmod 644 -R  /.... I stoped the action after 20 seconds with ctrl+c.
[14:19] <ArthuD> Now I'm using Live CD
[14:19] <bridie> ikonia: that command doesn't work (E: Invalid operation compiz)
[14:19] <ArthuD> How do I return my system to normal?
[14:19] <ikonia> bridie: I can understand that, I guess you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz
[14:19] <s0nix> i'm wonrering if someone who has configured a dual-head with the radeon driver can help me a little bit.
[14:19] <ikonia> ArthuD: manually set it back
[14:19] <XLV> elvis123, partition the hdd, set the filesystem type as linux raid, then man mdadm.. but if you want to boot from that raid5 array, or have different partitions for /boot, /root and swap, its even more tricky
[14:19] <ArthuD> ikonia: how
[14:19] <ArthuD> ?
[14:20] <ikonia> ArthuD manually chmod files back tot he right permissions
[14:20] <chadeldridge> gedit
[14:20] <chadeldridge> oops
[14:20] <ArthuD> I don't know the right permissions of the file system
[14:20] <XLV> elvis123, i got a raid5 array in my file server, how i have done it is this:
[14:20] <ikonia> ArthuD there are docs ont he web
[14:20] <ArthuD> (i know my home directory)
[14:20] <ikonia> ArthuD: sorry, there are docs on the web
[14:20] <ikonia> ArthuD search for FHS
[14:21] <ArthuD> oh. ok - what words should i look for in google?
[14:21] <XLV> elvis123, each hdd ( there are four of them ), has one 250MB boot partition, one 2GB swap, one 20GB root and the rest for the raid5
[14:21] <bridie> ikonia: Don't know if this helps, but got these errors doing that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61998/
[14:22] <XLV> elvis123, i created a raid1 array for boot ( 2 hdds and the two extra as spares ), one raid1 array for swap ( two hdds and two extra as spares ) and one raid1 array for /root ( again two hdds and the two extra as spares )..
[14:22] <ikonia> bridie interesting, it won't overwrite teh local files, you could try doing a apt-get purge compiz then use the apt-get install compiz settings
[14:22] <louise> hello, my wi-fi card driver is not automatically detected : 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[14:22] <XLV> elvis123, you dont want to use the raid5 for swap.. since its cpu intensive, better use raid1 for those
[14:23] <Decepticon> is http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ down?
[14:24] <elvis123> first i create 3 partitions for all 3 drives with cfdisk all linux raid autodetect then i create raid: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/... /dev/... /dev/... except for my boot partition i create a level 1
[14:24] <bridie> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61999/
[14:24] <ikonia> bridie ok, so now look at the dpkg logs to find out what's going on
[14:25] <ikonia> bridie: or try removing the fusion-icon package
[14:25] <XLV> elvis123, you wont use swap partition? or use swap file inside raid5 array?
[14:25] <elvis123> so not raid for swap..?
[14:26] <XLV> elvis123, you cant partition the raid5 array.. i mean if you use all the hdds for raid5, then you cant partition the array for a swap partition inside it
[14:26] <ikonia> Decepticon: it's up
[14:26] <XLV> elvis123, you can get by with no raid at all for swap
[14:27] <ReAn> how much hard drive space does a lightweight installation of ubuntu usually take up?
[14:27] <Puppy> Any good C++ IDE's for Ubuntu ?
[14:28] <ikonia> Puppy eclipse
[14:28] <XLV> elvis123, or you can create 3 swap partititions of same size in each hdd, and use all of them as swap .. then its even better cause kernel does a form of raid0 ( striping ) to read/write faster to the swap
[14:28] <magnetron> ReAn→ how lightweight do you want it to be? no graphics? or no text editors?
[14:28] <erUSUL> Puppy: anjuta; emacs; eclipse ....
[14:28] <XLV> elvis123, or you can create a raid1 for swap ( 2 partitions and one spare ) that way you can hotplug a hdd
[14:28] <ikonia> ReAn based desktop install is about 2.5 gig
[14:28] <ReAn> magnetron: it's basically a server + x
[14:29] <erUSUL> XLV: true but you have to set them to the same prio in fstab
[14:29] <ikonia> ReAn: about 700 meg at a gues
[14:29] <ikonia> guess
[14:29] <ReAn> sweet
[14:29] <XLV> erUSUL, yeah
[14:29] <ReAn> 2gb Virtual Machine GO!
[14:29] <bujar> hmmm
[14:29] <bujar> how can i "make" nachos in ubuntu?
[14:29] <bujar> any suggestions
[14:29] <bujar> ?
[14:29] <magnetron> ReAn→ if you install x+gnome upon ubuntu server, a standard Desktop install will be more lightweight
[14:29] <ikonia> bujar is nachos a software package or are you trying to be funny
[14:29] <elvis123> XLV how do i do your last suggestion
[14:30] <bujar> im dead serious
[14:30] <ikonia> bujar is nachos a software package?
[14:30] <ReAn> magnetron: i was thinking more x+fluxbox or some other lightweight window manager
[14:30] <nomoa> Anyone knows if the problem with flash apps overlapping javascript menus in firefox is or will be fixed?
[14:31] <bujar> not exactly, lets say its a group of programs that simulates an OS
[14:31] <ikonia> nomoa flash is closed source and can't be "fixed"
[14:31] <ReAn> well with any luck lynx will work for what i need
[14:31] <ReAn> and i wont need x
[14:31] <ikonia> bujar: http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~cs350/common/install.html this stuff ?
[14:31] <bujar> i need to use the "make" command
[14:31] <magnetron> ReAn→ the standard ubuntu install is lightweight, if you need it on a lowendmachine install xubuntu and configure it to your needs. ubuntu server kernel will actually perform worse for desktop tasks than the desktop kernel, so start with xubuntu instead
[14:31] <ikonia> bujar ok - so use the make command
[14:31] <XLV> elvis123, just create on each hdd a swap partition, eg 2GB.. then create a raid1 using two partitions and one spare.. then you need to use that md device as swap in fstab
[14:32] <nomoa> ikonia: you think it's a flash bug then?
[14:32] <ikonia> nomoa no idea
[14:32] <ReAn> magnetron: what would you say the average install size of xubuntu is?
[14:32] <bujar> hmmm i get an error
[14:35] <magnetron> ReAn→ install size is 1.5 GB, but then packages like Firefox and Thunderbird is included. you can always uninstall any packages cleanly with APT.
[14:36] <ReAn> and xubuntu could be adapted easily to be a LAMP server?
[14:36] <ReAn> standalone
[14:36] <magnetron> ReAn→ what does "standalone" refer to in this case?
[14:36] <ReAn> a daemon
[14:36] <magnetron> ReAn→ it's always a daemon
[14:36] <ReAn> well
[14:37] <magnetron> ReAn→ yes, just add the "LAMP" task with synaptic
[14:39] <Pici> ReAn: or use tasksel
[14:40]  * MANIAKA7000 hi all!
[14:41] <Mr_Fixit> how do i copy multiple files in one command?
[14:41] <strAlan> you need to contact Ubuntu customer service and ask for a supervisor
[14:41] <Mr_Fixit> awesome
[14:41] <strAlan> I think he can do it for you
[14:42] <magnetron> strAlan→ what?
[14:42] <strAlan> kidding
[14:42] <strAlan> Mr_Fixit, you can use the command
[14:42] <SchneeSchwarz> Mr_Fixit: cp filea fileb filec destdir
[14:42] <Xsist1> Rm -r
[14:42] <strAlan> sudo mv *.<end of filename>
[14:42] <Xsist1> joke
[14:42] <strAlan> lol Xsist1
[14:42] <Pici> Xsist1: Please don't joke about such thints.
[14:42] <Xsist1> okej
[14:42] <Pici> s/thints/things/
[14:42] <strAlan> oh Pici relax - he's just joking
[14:43] <magnetron> strAlan→ no
[14:43] <strAlan> you guys need to lighten up a little
[14:43] <Pici> strAlan: You know that, but someone asking about cli commands doesn't
[14:43] <w0ls0n> hello all. Is there a way to shut down to console and still have netwok access?
[14:43] <strAlan> Pici, dude relax
[14:43] <strAlan> he said he was joking
[14:43] <Mr_Fixit> no it's ok pici... i know about rm
[14:43] <defrysk> strAlan, we have to be careful with cli commands
[14:44] <Xsist1> !rm
[14:44] <Xsist1> ?
[14:44] <magnetron> strAlan→ stop it, it's not funny. we are here and have to provide support to the poor users that delete their files due to your "funny jokes"
[14:44] <strAlan> magnetron, I didn't make the joke stop harassing me
[14:44] <magnetron> strAlan→ i don't harass you, i'm telling you why it's not funny
[14:44] <strAlan> magnetron, squelched
[14:45] <magnetron> strAlan→ thank you
[14:45] <idesprado> I've a problem of installing ubuntu from harddisk with the help grub4dos...
[14:46] <idesprado> I can't boot to the installation step...
[14:47] <idesprado> and...I don't know how to fix it
[14:47] <idesprado> anybody help me?
[14:47] <kevin1466_> I can't watch the movies
[14:47] <LjL> idesprado: never done something like that... but what do you mean "to the installation step"? just how far can you boot?
[14:48] <idesprado> LjL:thanks....I mean..
[14:48] <dz_> hi
[14:48] <lippert> brasileiros?
[14:48] <idesprado> LiL: after I kernel and initrd and boot...
[14:49] <bazhang> lippert, #ubuntu-br
[14:49] <idesprado> there sth automatic steps...
[14:49] <lippert> thanks
[14:49] <idesprado> but it hangs a little at....Uniform CD-ROM driver 3.0
[14:49] <lippert> have for cakephp?
[14:49] <idesprado> and then
[14:49] <dz_> using Intrepid, with nvidia grapihcs card, whenever I try to save to XOrg file, nvidia-settings crashes. anyone have the same problem or know of a solution?
[14:49] <idesprado> returned a "done"
[14:50] <idesprado> and then
[14:50] <LjL> !enter | idesprado
[14:50] <jrib> !intrepid | dz_
[14:50] <idesprado> just error information
[14:50] <bazhang> dz_, #ubuntu+1 for ibex
[14:50] <jupeli> mo
[14:50] <Leafer> so how important is apic? I can't run ubuntu without selecting noapic....
[14:50] <LjL> idesprado: what error? have you followed the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows (last chapter)?
[14:50] <w0ls0n> hello all. Is there a way to shut down to console and still have netwok access? I am trying to install the NVIDIA driver and says it won't load while X is running
[14:50] <kevin1466> Who can introduce a good mediaplayer?
[14:50] <XLV> dz_, maybe you need to run nvidia-settings as root with gksudo
[14:50] <LjL> !good > kevin1466    (kevin1466, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:51] <bazhang> kevin1466, vlc mplayer
[14:51] <defrysk> totem
[14:51] <dz_> XLV - i run it as sudo, what's the difference with gksudo?
[14:51] <erUSUL> w0ls0n: yep usually the connection keeps alive when you shut down X
[14:51] <LjL> !gksudo > dz_    (dz_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:51] <darksifer> hi everyone
[14:51] <XLV> dz_, graphical form of sudo.. so if sudo doesnt do it, then its not that
[14:52] <dz_> LjL and XLV - thank you! I'll try it :)
[14:52] <idesprado> LJL:well...Let me put down the error information here:  Gave up waiting for root device.Common problems:-Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -Check rootdelay= ...so and so forth...
[14:52] <morro_> ciao
[14:52] <morro_> a tutti
[14:53] <darksifer> is there a software that encrypts any internet traffic?
[14:53] <bazhang> morro_, /join #ubuntu-it
[14:53] <dz_> FYI - XLV and LjL - that seems to have worked! Thanks again. :)
[14:53] <morro_> qualcuno sa dirmi come posso entrare in  #ubuntu-it ?
[14:53] <erUSUL> darksifer: no
[14:53] <bazhang> morro_, /j #ubuntu-it <----
[14:54] <babo_> can't find package skype, try package skype instead ...
[14:54] <babo_> http://pastebin.com/m48d63a64
[14:54] <babo_> anyone have any idea what's going on ?
[14:54] <morro_> J/ #ubuntu-it
[14:54] <bazhang> !skype
[14:54] <DIFH-iceroot> !skype | babo_
[14:54] <morro_> non funziona!!!!!
[14:54] <erUSUL> !it | morro_
[14:54] <Decepticon> blue-frog, i got done early
[14:54] <bazhang> morro_, ----> /j
[14:55] <darksifer> but there is one like protocol encryption in utorrent and azureus
[14:55] <Decepticon> blue-frog still around?
[14:55] <idesprado> LjL:are you still there?
[14:55] <Decepticon> im trying the 8.10 livecd and i cannot get any desktop to come up? here is the Xorg log, there are no errors i can see... http://64.238.186.178/Xorg.0.log
[14:56] <LjL> idesprado: was on the phone. have you used a rootdelay= argument at all?
[14:56] <erUSUL> darksifer: yes there is aplication livel protocol encryption ssl for http and so on but there is no program that encrypts all internet traffic
[14:56] <TJ-42> What does "realtime kernel variant" mean?
[14:56] <idesprado> LJL:I passed no argument to kernel
[14:56] <erUSUL> darksifer: for one something like that would have to be installed in alll internet connected devices
[14:56] <bob_> Hey guys...is there a way to find out exactly what version of my video driver I'm using right now?
[14:56] <idesprado> LjL:so...
[14:57] <idesprado> LjL:I thought it was caused by the lack of scsi driver of my harddisk...
[14:57] <LjL> idesprado: well, you should pass one or two, or the kernel won't know what to boot. try passing the ones on that page i gave
[14:57] <LjL> idesprado: that's possible perhaps
[14:57] <erUSUL> bob_: which video driver?
[14:57] <idesprado> LjL:and then in initramfs...I checked cat /proc/modules | grep scsi
[14:58] <Decepticon> im trying the 8.10 livecd and i cannot get any desktop to come up? here is the Xorg log, there are no errors i can see... http://64.238.186.178/Xorg.0.log
[14:58] <idesprado> LJL:there do returned a line with scsi...
[14:58] <babo_> how do i reload package information ?
[14:58] <idesprado> LJL:but no scsi_wait_...or sth...
[14:58] <bob_> My video driver, erUSUL. i attempted to install the new one with envy and i want to know if it worked.
[14:58] <idesprado> just scsi_mod...
[14:58] <LjL> babo_: sudo apt-get update
[14:58] <FANTASY_> HELLO
[14:58] <LjL> idesprado: right but that one is always there
[14:58] <bob_> erusul: sorry, my nvidia driver
[14:58] <babo_> thanks
[14:58] <idesprado> LjL:so what's the problem?
[14:58] <XLV> bob_, run nvidia-settings
[14:59] <erUSUL> bob_: dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[14:59] <w0ls0n> anyone that talks to PeterBye is just asking for trouble. He just pm'd me and told me to sudo rm -r /
[14:59] <LjL> idesprado, i don't know, but as i said if you passed *no* kernel arguments at all, that would be a problem
[14:59] <XLV> bob_,  they have info on driver version you use
[14:59] <idesprado> root device....there's no root device..
[14:59] <bob_> thanks, XLV!
[14:59] <darksifer> erUSUL: i download by xdcc. i got full download speed but lately i have noticed that when i download from xdcc my download speed is drastically low. i have to problem wen downloading by http or by torrent? can you tell me there is a solution for me to  be able to download by xdcc?
[14:59] <darksifer> plz
[15:00] <Leafer> can anyone tell me the significance of using APIC?, Can only boot ubuntu with "noapic" at the end of the kernal string
[15:00] <idesprado> LJL:I tried many times...and pass kernel the root argument..like root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=10000 ro quit splash...
[15:00] <TJ-42> what is the realtime kernel variant for UbuntuStudio?
[15:00] <Leafer> and google is fairly useless on this topic
[15:00] <idesprado> and these didn't work
[15:00] <magnetron> Leafer→ you may have an IRQ collision
[15:00] <Leafer> hmmm
[15:01] <erUSUL> darksifer: never used dcc so dunno really and p2p speeds depends on so many factors that is not easy to diagnose what the problem may be
[15:01] <LjL> Leafer: fewer interrupts available, perhaps. i never really could understand it either.
[15:01] <lucax> whats the difference between using cedega or wine for gaming?
[15:01] <idesprado> LJL:so...the problem...?
[15:01] <LjL> idesprado, i don't know
[15:02] <darksifer> ok thanks erUSUL
[15:02] <strAlan> lucax, I think you have to pay to use cedega
[15:02] <strAlan> lucax, wine is free
[15:02] <Leafer> LjL: alright thank you, I heard of things such as it stopping the fan and such, obv. that wouldn't be good lol
[15:02] <Leafer> wouldn't*
[15:02] <Decepticon> im trying the ubuntu 8.10 livecd and i cannot get any desktop to come up? here is the Xorg log, there are no errors i can see... http://64.238.186.178/Xorg.0.log and heere is the xorg.conf: http://64.238.186.178/xorg.conf . someone please tell me how i can get a working desktop please
[15:02] <lucax> but both can do the same thing?? wine and cedega?
[15:02] <LjL> idesprado: i'd try starting it through other means if you can... if you have a floppy perhaps that's a way
[15:02] <XLV> Leafer, thats acpi
[15:02] <idesprado> LJL:why it tells me that there's no device like /dev/ram????
[15:02] <w0ls0n> anyone that talks to PeterBye is just asking for trouble. He just pm'd me and told me to sudo rm -r /
[15:02] <magnetron> lucax→ Wine is more developed. both Wine and Cedega have built-in DirectX
[15:02] <Leafer> ahhh o thank you XLV
[15:03] <w0ls0n> any channel ops around?
[15:03] <strAlan> lucax, cedega is a supported version of wine in the sense that you can call customer service for help
[15:03] <LjL> idesprado: because there isn't, there should be /dev/ram0 though
[15:03] <idesprado> LJL:but ....it's a chance to learn right?
[15:03] <erUSUL> Leafer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_APIC_Architecture
[15:03] <LjL> w0ls0n, yes, and i banned him already. thanks.
[15:03] <strAlan> lucax, and I believe it also has better compatibility
[15:03] <lucax> magnetron: great info
[15:03] <magnetron> strAlan→ incorrect, Cedega and Wine hasn't shared code for decades
[15:03] <strAlan> lucax, with more windows apps
[15:03] <idesprado> LJL:well....I did use /dev/ramo....
[15:03] <lucax> ok thanks guys
[15:03] <strAlan> magnetron, I didn't say anything about the code
[15:04] <idesprado> LJL:and while I use the windows partition there's a kernel panic...telling me that it's goint to kill the init...
[15:04] <magnetron> strAlan→ Cedega is NOT a supported version of Wine.
[15:04] <idesprado> strAlan:are there?
[15:04] <idesprado> strAlan:do you know the problem?
[15:04] <Leafer> alright, thanks all, I read that possibly installing the 64bit may clear this issue? I will test it and see
[15:04] <idesprado> strAlan:or do you know how to fix it?
[15:05] <strAlan> idesprado, for what ?
[15:05] <Rideh> what file specifies the order services / daemons load upon boot?
[15:05] <strAlan> magnetron, he asked the difference between wine and cedega
[15:05] <strAlan> magnetron, all I said was cedega is supported in the sense that he can talk to someone about it
[15:06] <lucax> Rideh: i belive if you install "bum" you can check that
[15:06] <Rideh> bum work cli?
[15:06] <magnetron> strAlan→ and you say they are the same, but cedega is supported, which is very misleading. "<strAlan> lucax, cedega is a supported version of wine"
[15:06] <Pondof> oi, any room on this server that can help out with AS 2.0....?
[15:06] <magnetron> strAlan→ cedega lacks many features that Wine has
[15:06] <Xsist1> !cedega
[15:06] <strAlan> magnetron, in the sense that he is asking
[15:06] <strAlan> magnetron, he said "what's the difference between wine and cedega"
[15:06] <Xsist1> !wine
[15:06] <magnetron> strAlan→ no, not in the sense he was asking
[15:07] <strAlan> ok fine whatever
[15:07] <Pici> Pondof: #web might be a good place to start looking
[15:07] <Pondof> so no one here can help me...?  is there a room on this server that can help me with Flash actionscrip 2.0.....?
[15:08] <Pici> Pondof: Or ##flash
[15:08] <lucax> magnetron: strAlan, what i want to do is run games... in that sence, whats the difference? can i do the same thing with any of them? am i gonna be able to run games with any of them?
[15:08] <Pondof> thanks Pici
[15:08] <strAlan> lucax, it all depends but I suggest you try using wine first because its free
[15:09] <erUSUL> !appdb | lucax wine support games; cedega claims to support them better but you have to pay
[15:09] <idesprado> strAlan:I can install ubuntu from harddisk with the help of grub4dos...I can't boot into the installation step...when I kernel /casper/vmlinz initrd /casper/initrd.gz and then boot...It hangs at Uniform CD-ROM driver 3.0 for a while ...and then a "done" returned...and then all the error info like...it gave up waiting for root device.Common problems:-Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -check rootdelay=         ...so and so forth...
[15:09] <w0ls0n> helol all. Can someone tlel me how to shut down to console and still ahev network access? I am trying to install an NVIDIA Driver from nvidia
[15:09] <strAlan> idesprado, I'm not sure I'v enever used "grub4dos"
[15:09] <erUSUL> w0ls0n: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[15:10] <strAlan> w0ls0n, can you just boot up in recovery mode ?
[15:10] <w0ls0n> strAlan, no network access
[15:10] <idesprado> strAlan:grub4dos is just like grub in windows...
[15:10] <strAlan> w0ls0n, sorry I've never had that problem
[15:10] <idesprado> strAlan:the problem is it can't find root device...
[15:10] <babo_> LjL: the skype deb is broken
[15:10] <magnetron> lucax→ you will be able to run some games with Wine, some will work in Cedega and some will work in Crossover. check the Wine Appdb to see the status of different apps in Wine.
[15:10] <magnetron> !appdb | lucax
[15:10] <babo_> LjL: won't install. broken pipe
[15:11] <idesprado> it didn't work whenever i passed kernel /casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram or root=/dev/sda....
[15:11] <Radux_> Hi all, i was wondering if anyone has had any experience using JFS, or could point me to a recent benchmark of filesystems
[15:11] <strAlan> idesprado, I didn't know grub was something used in windows - i learn something new everyday
[15:12] <idesprado> strAlan:grub4dos...maybe I have to say that it worked under dos...like...not windows...
[15:12] <strAlan> idesprado, is there a reason you keep on putting elipses between sentence fragments ?
[15:12] <TrendKi||> Hi guys, is anyone else experiencing problems using the msn network with pidgin and amsn? did ms change something again?
[15:13] <Puppy> is there an install repositry for beryl ?
[15:13] <strAlan> TrendKi||, I'm using msn, yahoo, gtalk, and aim accounts on pidgin and I don't have any probelms
[15:13] <bazhang> Puppy, no, it is now compiz-fusion
[15:13] <Mary_ux> How can I make a program to be executed only as root?? eg. filezila program
[15:13] <magnetron> Puppy→ beryl changed name to compiz-fusion, you already have it
[15:13] <TrendKi||> strAlan, ok, thanks...you're using hadry?
[15:13] <TrendKi||> hardy
[15:14] <strAlan> yep
[15:14] <Tundrayeti312> Mary_ux: Change permissions
[15:14] <iShock> Sheesh .. Anyway, anyone got a quick pointer for making my computer NOT use grub to boot? (IE: Going straight to my Windows partition)
[15:14] <strAlan> Tundrayeti312, I think he's looking for a more specific answer as "changing permissions" is somewhat obvious
[15:14] <magnetron> iShock→ so you want to uninstall ubuntu?
[15:15] <iShock> magnetron: I rather stupidly used Windows to delete my Ubuntu partition, and then grub whined. So I deleted the grub partition, now it's still trying to use grub ..
[15:15] <Mary_ux> yep, /usr/bin/filezilla is already onwed by root
[15:15] <strAlan> MarkNL, you can change permissiong - try "man chmod"
[15:15] <magnetron> iShock→ there is no grub partition
[15:15] <magnetron> iShock→ grub is installed to the MBR of the hard drive
[15:15] <iShock> magnetron: Meh, whatever, the swap partition then
[15:15] <Mary_ux> any other idea
[15:15] <Puppy> so how do i configure it ?
[15:15] <iShock> magnetron: And can I use a live cd to fix that?
[15:16] <bazhang> !ccsm | Puppy
[15:16] <Mary_ux> it seems simple but i cannot get it, ﻿How can I make a program to be executed only as root?? eg. filezila program
[15:16] <XLV> iShock, boot from windows installation cd, use recovery console, issue commands fixboot and fixmbr
[15:16] <Slart> Mary_ux: I think there is a setuid bit that can be used for that
[15:16] <iShock> XLV: There's no way to do it from the Live CD?
[15:16] <Slart> Mary_ux: but filezilla as root? why?
[15:17] <khamael> if I reinstall ubuntu without formatting, will ubuntu delete programs that has nothing to do with ubuntu (like wine)?
[15:17] <Mary_ux> slart: ok, so what exactily should i do?
[15:17] <XLV> iShock, put windows mbr in there? no
[15:17] <iShock> God ..
[15:17] <iShock> I have less than no idea where my Vista CD is ..
[15:17] <Mary_ux> slart: its just an example, anyway in the case i just want admin to run filezilla
[15:18] <iShock> grep -i vista cd
[15:18] <iShock> o that won't work :(
[15:18] <Slart> Mary_ux: I'm not sure that setting the setuid bit without knowing why/how etc is a good idea.. but first you have to find the executable.. in nautilus or using terminal
[15:18] <stack_smasher> hey someone can help me out with quake 3 on ubuntu? I'm having some problems with running a dedicated server
[15:18] <Misterjos> is there standard a firewall enabled in ubuntu 8.04? because i need to set up a vpn connection which gives this error "The VPN login failed because the VPN program could not connect to the VPN server."
[15:19] <Misterjos> and i want to try to disable the firewall
[15:19] <Slart> Misterjos: there is a firewall.. but it's passive by default
[15:19] <Slart> !firewall
[15:19] <iShock> XLV: You made me sad. :(
[15:19] <Mary_ux> slart: ok, /usr/bin/fillezila, now what
[15:19] <Misterjos> aha ok thanks
[15:19] <Misterjos> i'll have a look
[15:20] <smp4488> im trying to boot ubuntu-mobile from a usb drive. How do i use the nacpi option?
[15:20] <Slart> Mary_ux: I think "sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/filezilla" might do the trick
[15:20] <lujan> spanish?
[15:20] <iShock> LjL, no way to fixmbr from Ubuntu?
[15:20] <Pici> !es | lujan
[15:20] <bazhang> lujan, #ubuntu-es
[15:21] <Mary_ux> slart: thanks
[15:21] <lujan> ok
[15:21] <nils2903> \quit: Bye
[15:21] <Mary_ux> :)
[15:21] <Mary_ux> i ll try that
[15:21] <lujan> thanks
[15:21] <bebe> how to connect to another client ?
[15:21] <iShock> Hahaaaaa, found it
[15:21] <Mary_ux> slart: what the +s mean??
[15:21] <Slart> Mary_ux: setuid
[15:21] <Slart> Mary_ux: basically it runs the executable as the user that owns it
[15:21] <bebe> for example i want to connect to 89.10.10.1 port 22 and username root
[15:21] <mohan341> ﻿I have a problem, Here is the callback function http://pastebin.com/m3b244525, what I want is, when I click the toggle button, if it is not active, then it should become true, if it is not active, then it should become false
[15:22] <bebe> anyone know the command ?
[15:22] <Mary_ux> slart: ok thanks
[15:22] <Slart> Mary_ux: more info here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid ..
[15:22] <iShock> bebe: "Another client"?
[15:22] <bebe> i mean, another server
[15:22] <iShock> ssh?
[15:22] <bebe> yes
[15:22] <bebe> port 22
[15:22] <mohan341> sorry to say, I don't know the official gtk irc channel..
[15:23] <Slart> Mary_ux: I would still say just running "sudo filezilla" would be a better idea.. much better
[15:23] <smp4488> im trying to boot ubuntu-mobile from a usb drive. How do i use the nacpi option?
[15:23] <bebe> is there any command ?
[15:23] <iShock> ssh -lroot IP should work
[15:23] <iShock> man ssh and double-check though
[15:23] <bebe> thank you kind
[15:23]  * iShock writes that down
[15:23] <mohan341> does anybody know irc for gtk
[15:23] <mohan341> ?
[15:23] <Dextorion> mohan341 try #gtk+
[15:24] <mohan341> dextorion: thanks
[15:24] <Dextorion> mohan341, you'r welcome
[15:24] <bloodniece> if i am dual booting windows and linux, which partition should have the boot flag?
[15:24] <fengbing> jfk
[15:24] <myeggo> hey
[15:24] <fengbing> hello
[15:24] <fengbing> i am mew comer
[15:25] <iShock> bloodniece: I really don't think it matters, just install Windows first
[15:25] <smp4488> no apic option?
[15:25] <devon> is there a specific IRC channel for people using Intrepid?
[15:25] <Pici> devon: #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <myeggo> im trying to configure a cron task as root, where should i put it, in /etc/crontab or typing crontab -e ? i tried all possible options that i know but it does not works
[15:25] <devon> (e.g. testing)
[15:25] <iShock> !intrepid
[15:25] <devon> thanks
[15:25] <lucax> ive asked this before, i maight have luck this time... im running ubuntu from a pendrive, i have to install and uninstall xserver from different computer as i move, how can i let ubuntu check and use the correct downloaded drivers so i can use my pen with 3d effects in all computers?
[15:25] <bloodniece> iShock: grub will install to hd0,0 by default?
[15:25] <Mary_ux> slart: ok, the thing is, i dont want user1, which have not admin permissions to run filezilla, i want him to use sudo instead
[15:25] <Slart> hello fengbing, welcome to #ubuntu.. there is also a chinese channel for ubuntu.. write !cn here in the channel to get more info
[15:25] <Mary_ux> slart: how can i do it?
[15:25] <iShock> bloodniece: Grub will be installed on the HDs MBR, apparently
[15:25] <bloodniece> iShock: thanks
[15:26] <stack_smasher> hey....quake 3.....halp
[15:26]  * iShock gone
[15:26] <abixalmon> Good Evening from Bhutan!
[15:26] <feng14> another chinese
[15:26] <Dextorion> Work day is over!! \o/ See you guys.
[15:27] <feng14> !cn
[15:27] <Slart> Mary_ux: I'm not really sure.. I've never messed with multi-user linux systems.. you might want to read up on the permissions systems (chmod and friends).. perhaps take a look at selinux too
[15:28] <Virus-Worm> join in #Virus-Worm
[15:28] <Virus-Worm> ;)
[15:28] <Mary_ux> slart: cheers mate, have a nice weekend
[15:28] <Slart> myeggo: crontab -e is the recommended way afaik
[15:28] <Slart> Mary_ux: you too
[15:29] <myeggo> Slart: i want run a .tcl file that at least in shell works with ./file.tcl, i added this: 16 16   * * *   root    sh /home/osiatis/.dhcp3/dhcpd.tcl
[15:29] <myeggo> but no error mail and no file running
[15:29] <respecting> please what's the default password for ubento 8.4?
[15:29] <respecting> i can not log as root to my ubuntu system
[15:29] <Mez> !password | respecting
[15:30] <jin_> respecting, there is no root account on ubuntu
[15:30] <Mez> !sudo | respecting
[15:30] <respecting> whattttttttttttttttttttt
[15:30] <Slart> myeggo: hmm.. I don't think you can specify a user on the line like that.. or?
[15:30] <Slart> myeggo: I think it tried to execute "root sh /home/blablabla"
[15:30] <respecting> no i mean there's a GUI in which it tell me to give username and password
[15:30] <myeggo> i have read some how-to
[15:30] <myeggo> hm okay
[15:30] <jin_> respecting, should gksu
[15:30] <myeggo> i go experiment
[15:31] <Slart> myeggo: do that =)
[15:31] <respecting> the username is gksu and the password is what?
[15:31] <lucax> no one with the autodetect video cards?
[15:31] <HymnToLife> myeggo: sudo -i, then crontab -e to edit root's crontab
[15:31] <HymnToLife> and put it in there normally
[15:31] <Mez> respecting: yeah, you got asked for a username/password when you installed...
[15:31] <Mez> jin_: I think he means the login screen
[15:31] <respecting> ahhhhhhhh i remember it thank you
[15:31] <hitman1985> hi all, what could be the matter with compiz not workin on 8.04 Hardy heron, worked fine until like 3 days ago :(
[15:32] <Slart> hitman1985: can you run glxgears?
[15:32] <respecting> tell me please can i use ubunto for entreprise activity.i mean i want to deploy a high critical J2EE application on it
[15:32] <hitman1985> Slart: what is that ? :) not to literate with all ubuntu specific names :(
[15:32] <Slart> hitman1985: try running this script.. it test some stuff for compiz http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[15:33] <Slart> hitman1985: hehe.. it's an opengl demo thingy.. some twisting gears in a window
[15:33] <hitman1985> give me a mom, connecting :)
[15:33] <Slart> hitman1985: it's just a quick test to see if your video stuff is setup right
[15:33] <respecting> tell me please can i use ubunto for entreprise activity.i mean i want to deploy a high critical J2EE application on it
[15:34] <jioyo> why i can't login MSN
[15:34] <HymnToLife> !repeat | respecting
[15:34] <Slart> respecting: why not talk to canonical.. I'm sure they have some enterprise level support stuff to offer
[15:34] <sambagirl> is anyone here using campware?
[15:34] <hitman1985> Slart: ok so just follow on with the commands thats it ?
[15:34] <sambagirl> is anyone here toying arouid with ebox?
[15:35] <respecting> what's the cannonical?
[15:35] <Slart> hitman1985: did glxgears work?
[15:35] <Slart> !canonical
[15:35] <saxin> Hi all. I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a computer, the install went fine. After a reboot it boot from the harddrive, but when it comes to the user/password - I get no picture at all. I can hear the 'music', but no music. What do you suggest?
[15:35] <Pici> saxin: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[15:35] <Slart> respecting: the company behind ubuntu
[15:36] <Decepticon> im trying the ubuntu 8.10 livecd and i cannot get any desktop to come up? here is the Xorg log, there are no errors i can see... http://64.238.186.178/Xorg.0.log and heere is the xorg.conf: http://64.238.186.178/xorg.conf . someone please tell me how i can get a working desktop please
[15:36] <hitman1985> Slart: gears show fine
[15:36] <bazhang> Decepticon, #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:37] <magnetron> !intrepid > Decepticon
[15:37] <hitman1985> Slart: the module just says that it encountered an error checking the memory size, all  other things say ok
[15:37] <Decepticon> the reason i used 8.10 is because 8.04 was doing the same thing
[15:37] <Slart> hitman1985: then try the script from the webpage.. there are instructions there
[15:37] <Pici> Decepticon: But you're using 8.10 now.
[15:37] <Decepticon> i had this problem in 8.04 as well
[15:37] <Decepticon> its the same problem
[15:37] <Decepticon> whatever
[15:38] <hitman1985> Slart: i already ran that :) thats where the memory error showed up
[15:38] <mdmkolbe> I'm helping someone with a project that requires autoconf 2.63, is there any timeline for when that will get into Ubuntu or do I have to build that myself?
[15:38] <Slart> hitman1985: hmm.. hang on.. let me check something
[15:38] <idesprado> strAlan:sorry for any inconvience from my eclipses of my sentence fragments....and thanks very much...
[15:39] <idesprado> strAlan:I'm afraid I have to google more to solve the problem myself...
[15:39] <idesprado> strAlan:anyway,Thanks a lot
[15:40] <hitman1985> Slart: sure :) im just tryin to figure out what is causin this, because i just had to run recovery and fix some consistency issues (my whole desktop was locked up ( )
[15:41] <JohnFlux3> hey  all
[15:41] <JohnFlux3> When I compile a kernel, it is important to use fakeroot?
[15:41] <Flynsarmy> How do i find out if my nvidia chipset supports 173 or 177 driver series?
[15:41] <hitman1985> Slart: ok i installed nvidia-settings now, and it says all tests [ok]
[15:41] <JohnFlux3> or can I just do    make-kpkg     etc
[15:41] <JohnFlux3> without fakeroot?
[15:44] <mohan341> anyone know active gtk irc channel?
[15:44] <Doc8404> anyone know how to get 3d windows and switching back after removing compiz?
[15:44] <w0ls0n> when I try to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, it stops at running local boot scripts.
[15:44] <Reaverbot> how I install my web-cam
[15:44] <Reaverbot> how I install my web-cam?
[15:44] <bazhang> !webcam | Reaverbot
[15:45] <Doc8404> Reverbot plug it in... and type susb
[15:45] <Reaverbot> !webcam
[15:45] <Reaverbot> asd
[15:45] <Doc8404> or something like that
[15:45] <w0ls0n> how can I properly shut down to console and still have network access?
[15:45] <w0ls0n> when I try to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, it stops at running local boot scripts.
[15:46] <starkmjolk> lo all
[15:46] <myeggo> i have an ubuntu server stable with kernel 2.6.20-15-server, i think it was never updated and i dont know if exists some missing package, trying to add a new crontab, it just does not run
[15:46] <myeggo> with no mail report or anything
[15:46] <nmh-j2graw> w0ls0n: do you want to quit X, get a terminal, or something else?
[15:47] <Pici> myeggo: What version of Ubuntu?
[15:47] <myeggo> where can i see it?
[15:47] <Pici> myeggo: lsb_release -a
[15:47] <myeggo> is not my server, i just need add a software
[15:47] <w0ls0n> hey
[15:47] <myeggo> feisty
[15:47] <myeggo> 7.04
[15:48] <w0ls0n> it's telling me I need to install the libc header files. How do I do that?
[15:48] <starkmjolk> I seem to have scared up bug #92268, but in a hardy->intrepid RC update
[15:48] <Doc8404> 5 days and 8.10 comes out
[15:48] <Pici> myeggo: sudo crontab -e should let you edit the root crotab.  Also, Unforunately, Feisty is no longer supported.
[15:49] <Slart> hitman1985: hmm.. so all settings are ok.. and it's still not working?
[15:49] <Pici> myeggo: October 19th was its End of Life date.
[15:49] <myeggo> yes i can edit my crontab, and i add there a line with the proc, and it says no error but either works
[15:49] <myeggo> Pici: it is a dhcpd server, they wont update
[15:49] <myeggo> that is enough for what they want
[15:50] <myeggo> (sadly for me)
[15:50] <hitman1985> Slart: nope:(
[15:50] <Some_ux> Hi
[15:50] <Pici> myeggo: Did you try restarting the cron daemon?
[15:50] <hitman1985> Slart: all problems started 3 days ago out of nothing
[15:50] <myeggo> Pici: yes :/
[15:51] <Slart> hitman1985: might have been a kernel update.. don't remember when the last one was
[15:51] <Doc8404> thts why i let you guys do all the beta testing lol
[15:51] <Slart> hitman1985: what kind of graphics card?
[15:51] <myeggo> 36  16 *   *   *     /home/osiatis/.dhcp3/expires.sh - i put that, and also 36  16 *   *   *     sh /home/osiatis/.dhcp3/expires.sh
[15:51] <hitman1985> Slart:  5200fx
[15:51] <myeggo> and expires.sh is executable
[15:51] <Slart> hitman1985: that's an ati card, right?
[15:51] <Some_ux> I am looking for a good tutorial on how to rig Ubuntu as a Router, more specifically, version 8.04
[15:51] <hitman1985> Slart: nvidia
[15:51] <der|kunstler> how do I open rstp:// streams with ubuntu >?
[15:52] <Slart> hitman1985: ah.. ok
[15:52] <nmh-j2graw> der|kunstler: have you tried mplayer or vlc?
[15:52] <der|kunstler> nmh-j2graw, both
[15:52] <Serenella> hi all, i installed cups on my server but i can't access to it from my client. It could be apparmor to block it. How to set permissions with apparmor?
[15:52] <Slart> hitman1985: you're using the nvidia drivers from the restricted drivers?
[15:52] <der|kunstler> nmh-j2graw, rstp is real player right ?
[15:52] <hitman1985> Slart: yes
[15:53] <nmh-j2graw> der|kunstler: I think, but don't definitely remember
[15:53] <Slart> hitman1985: and you just get the "Couldn't enable desktop effects" errorbox?
[15:53] <der|kunstler> nmh-j2graw, ok
[15:53] <hitman1985> Slart: no just nothing works, even that it is checked in hte ccsm
[15:54] <Slart> hitman1985: have you enabled the desktop effects before trying the change the settings?
[15:54] <iShock> Alrighty .. I booted from my Acer Upgrade CD for vista, and it doesn't seem to find a boot problem any more, and 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot' aren't recognized as internal or external programs in the command prompt .. But it's STILL trying to boot from GRUB .. Any idea?
[15:54] <Slart> hitman1985: in system, preference, appearance
[15:54] <hitman1985> Slart: one sec :)
[15:55] <Some_ux> I would like to setup an Ubuntu server 8.04 with two eth ports to act as a dhcp and router (NAT), the problem is that most tutorials are targeted for those with a graphic gui (either firestarter or webmin) and i need something that is more commandline.
[15:55] <slayer> ubuntu is crap
[15:55] <bazhang> slayer, wrong channel for you then
[15:55] <hitman1985> Slart: what should i put it on, normal or extra ?
[15:55] <juanez> Some_ux: try qtables
[15:56] <hitman1985> Slart: its only a 1.7 ghz amd with 5200 fx so i was thinking normal woudl do it for now
[15:56] <Some_ux> man qtables ?
[15:56] <Slart> hitman1985: it's just different settings.. but you'll change those yourself in the settings manager
[15:56] <slayer> More precisely, if someone wants to hook up a server, Ubuntu is crap
[15:56] <iShock> Alrighty .. I booted from my Acer Upgrade CD for vista, and it doesn't seem to find a boot problem any more, and 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot' aren't recognized as internal or external programs in the command prompt .. But it's STILL trying to boot from GRUB .. Any idea?
[15:56] <bazhang> slayer, this is ubuntu support; please take chat elsewhere
[15:56] <juanez> Some_ux: http://qtables.radom.org/  (seems its not being actively developed any longer)
[15:56] <Slart> slayer: do you have a question? there is an offtopic channel for rants
[15:56] <slayer> Some_ux, I strongly recommend to use OpenBSD or NetBSD for DHCP and routing
[15:56] <bazhang> !ot | slayer
[15:57] <juanez> Some_ux: it's basically just a .sh script that sets up your iptables
[15:57] <juanez> slayer: does it really matter? :S
[15:57] <slayer> Of course it matters you Ubuntu zealots
[15:57] <Some_ux> slayer, Ubuntu performs rather well for me, why use openBSD ?
[15:57] <bazhang> slayer, please stop
[15:57] <hitman1985> Slart: wow, a simple reactivate helped, thank you
[15:58] <iShock> Anyone at all?....
[15:58] <Slart> hitman1985: you're welcome
[15:58]  * iShock sighs
[15:58] <hitman1985> Slart: lol, i checked everything but that point :( easy steps are most of the time to difficult to think of, have a good one :) byebye
[15:58] <slayer> Some_ux, Because OpenBSD and NetBSD have been made for that purpose, while Ubuntu have been made for desktop. You have no security and no reliability with Ubuntu, comparing to BSD
[15:59] <iShock> bazhang: Help! :(
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[15:59] <Tundrayeti312> !patience > iShock
[15:59] <Slart> iShock: grub is installed to the mbr (probably)
[15:59] <iShock> Slart: No duh, I want it to go away though! :'(
[15:59] <Slart> iShock: I have no idea what the cd from acer does or why it doesn't work with those commands
[16:00]  * scampbell /ignore slayer ftw
[16:00] <saky> fffffffff
[16:00] <iShock> Slart, I'm in the repair your computer section, and the automatic doo-dad is failing.
[16:00] <Slart> iShock: you'll have to install another mbr.. the fixmbr command works on some windows install cd in rescue mode
[16:00] <iShock> install another .. are you kidding me?
[16:00] <Slart> iShock: but we can't help you use your acer supplied software.. you'll have to ask acer for help with that.. or a windows channel perhaps
[16:01] <Slart> iShock: nope.. not kidding
[16:01] <iShock> Slart, it's a Windows vista install/upgrade cd, that came with my acer laptop ..
[16:01] <Pici> myeggo: Sorry, I'm really lagging here.  Does your script have #!/bin/bash as the first line, and if it does, have you tried using a simple command and testing if that runs?
[16:02] <myeggo> Pici: yes, and i verified that is not a ^M (for windows), typing ./file.tcl does properly
[16:02] <Slart> iShock: yes, I know what it is.. I have one on my desk..I don't know how it works or what it does
[16:02] <myeggo> Pici: i also tried to create a sh file for execute it via tclsh file.tcl, but that wont success
[16:02] <myeggo> im really annoyed with this
[16:02] <iShock> Slart, describe the disk (In PM if you must)
[16:03] <Doonznix> hey guys im running a software based raid set up
[16:04] <Doonznix> i find that my cpu usage is constantly 90%+
[16:04] <Slart> iShock: no, I wont.. I won't boot it up just to try it.. it came with my acer laptop.. but back to the issue.. you've got a problem with a acer restore cd that reinstalls windows.. the ubuntu channel isn't the best place to ask for help with that
[16:04] <Doonznix> im running a celeron. Im looking at throwing in a quad core. WIll that help bring down my cpu usage?
[16:04] <saky> zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[16:04] <bazhang> saky, please stop
[16:05] <iShock> Slart, you don't need to boot into it to tell me what the disk looks like .. But it's not a restore CD, it's an upgrade CD ..
[16:05] <Slart> iShock: the mbr is a part of the hard drive (the first track), it just starts things up and then hands off to the rest of the boot program.. you have to have some kind of mbr (either the grub one or whatever comes with windows)
[16:05] <dr_Willis> iShock,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record   :)  fun reading.
[16:06] <iShock> dr_Willis: How's that going to help me uninstall grub?
[16:06] <dr_Willis> iShock,  You dont 'uninstall' it - you install a different MBR over it.. basically
[16:06] <Slart> iShock: you don't uninstall grub.. you install something else over it
[16:06] <dr_Willis> :)
[16:07] <Tundrayeti312> what they said lol
[16:07] <iShock> ...
[16:07] <iShock> Useless people :'(
[16:07] <dr_Willis> In case of the old windows the command was 'fdisk /mbr'  under XP it was fixmbr/fixboot , and under vista.. i forget..
[16:07] <Slart> iShock: sorry for telling you the truth
[16:07] <lunafreestate> hello I have a desktop install of hardy that is slowly becoming a server and I need some help
[16:07] <Slart> iShock: but realite doesn't change because you don't like it
[16:07] <dr_Willis> You some how instll the proper mbr for the os you wish to use.
[16:08] <dr_Willis> There are also live cd's that have 'fix the mbr' tools..   Ultimate boot cd. might be one. I havent use it in ages
[16:08] <lunafreestate> I want it to connect to the internet and run the back ground deamons with out loging in after reboot
[16:08] <lunafreestate> any one have an idea
[16:09] <Slart> iShock: why not ask in ##windows , they might be able to help you fix your windows install, reinstall windows or whatever you want to do.. we can help you reinstall/install ubuntu
[16:09] <Slart> lunafreestate: there are lots of things that runs without a user logged in.. what software is it that doesn't run for you?
[16:09] <[ipc]-michael> creating  a separate home partition and reinstalling 8.04. 8.10's nvidia issues are a show stopper
[16:10] <[ipc]-michael> im woefully unproductive without certain desktop effects
[16:10] <lunafreestate> the network manager
[16:10] <lunafreestate> this is a either net wired connection
[16:10] <Slart> lunafreestate: ah.. oh.. I see.. hmm.. would setting the computer to autologin be acceptable?
[16:10] <kyrksaeterora> does anybody here have a high-speed http proxy?
[16:10] <lunafreestate> I can't get any of the services to work without logging in
[16:11] <lunafreestate> I don't like it but if it is the only option
[16:11] <louzer> hi if i go ahead and use Interpid Ibex Release Candiate will I be able to upgrade to the stable release when it is released?
[16:11] <Slart> louzer: yes
[16:11] <albertico> kyrksaeterora, you mean an internal network http proxy?
[16:11] <skopii> Hi, I have a question about hwclock. According to the man page while syncing the system time to the hardware time (hwclock --systohc) you can tell hwclock to write out the time as UTC or localtime. Regardless of the option I choose hwclock -r shows the same time. Even when I restore the time (--hctosys) the system time is still correct
[16:11] <myeggo> Pici: could be if mailutils is not installed, cron wont work?
[16:11] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: forward, like squid; or reverse, like wodan?
[16:11] <bazhang> louzer, yes; #ubuntu+1 for more
[16:12] <louzer> Slart: thanks
[16:12] <louzer> bazhang: thaks
[16:12] <kyrksaeterora> external proxy, like one I can use to circumvent internet filters
[16:12] <Slart> lunafreestate: network manager should have some kind of daemon to do whatever it does without a user logged it.. but I've never seen one..
[16:13] <Slart> lunafreestate: "should" = I think it would be nice =)
[16:13] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: have you considered tor?
[16:13] <root> hi
[16:13] <lunafreestate> I hate messing with the conf file of stuff like that over ssh
[16:13] <Genscher> hey :) When I login to ubuntu i get some orange screen for a short time until my desktop background image kicks in. Is there any way to change that color? (where?)
[16:13] <albertico> kyrksaeterora | nmh-j2graw, I would add endian firewall (forward), pound and nginx (reverse)
[16:13] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw: tor has always been slow for me
[16:14] <albertico> kyrksaeterora, Tor may I say
[16:14] <Genscher> ah got it - sudo gedit /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default
[16:14] <Genscher> thanks
[16:14] <lunafreestate> thank you for the help, I need to do some more googling now that I have a direction
[16:14] <Slart> Genscher: there are several.. there is one that is shown shortly after logging in but before your own settings kick in. I'll dig up the info
[16:14] <iShock> dr_Willis:
[16:14] <nmh-j2graw> albertico: good point, I was thinking of things that seem to do lots of caching (though I know little of nginx)
[16:14] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: have you tried google(open proxy) ?
[16:15] <dr_Willis> iShock,  hmm?
[16:15] <iShock> Vista it's bootrec /fixboot and bootrec /fixmbr
[16:16] <dr_Willis> lovely of MS to come up with totally new commands eh.. I rember why I use linux now. :)
[16:16] <iShock> I loved ubuntu till it wiped my MP3 player .. that upset me
[16:16] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw: elaborate on this google(open proxy)
[16:16] <MeAndy> Hi ppl
[16:16] <Reaverbot> How could I do a partition in my disk?
[16:17] <albertico> nmh-j2graw, nginx seems to be a nice project... I would consider it a kind of pound + apache hybrid... I'm still testing it though
[16:17] <dr_Willis> iShock,  You dont want to get me started on the things ive had windows do.. :) but this isent the place for that.
[16:17] <bazhang> Reaverbot, gparted
[16:17] <Codedrunk_work> Morning all
[16:17] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: as in, have you gone to www.google.com and searched for open proxy
[16:17] <MeAndy> need some tips for creating different startup profiles
[16:17] <nmh-j2graw> albertico: sounds neat.  Does it do caching/acceleration as well?
[16:17] <Reaverbot> bazhang: yes, but all of my disk is in /de and ext3.
[16:17] <iShock> Hi Jack_Sparrow, and :P dr_Willis, it's donesome bad things, but Ubuntu just wasn't right, I think I muffed the install .. Anyway, no need for me to be in here on here now, might come visit/help sometime though
[16:18] <ikonia> MeAndy what do you mean by startup profiles
[16:18] <Reaverbot> How I could create a new partition from that one?
[16:18] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw: I can't access any servers or websites with the word "proxy" in it because of the filter I'm trying to get around
[16:18] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: is this at work?
[16:19] <MeAndy> I have two different kernels and I want to have a certain program NOT startup when I boot a different kernel
[16:19] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw:  uni
[16:19] <Slart> kyrksaeterora: what an extremely annoying filter..
[16:19] <ikonia> MeAndy you can't really do that unless you put a check in the init script that does something like if uname -r = $version do this else do that
[16:19] <Bodsda> how can i convert a rmvb file to a vob file for burning on a dvd?
[16:19] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw:  the filters often block websites that are academic and useful so I usually circumvent them, but I lost my proxy list
[16:19] <kyrksaeterora> Slart:  tell me about it
[16:19] <ikonia> Bodsda: mencoder is a very solid conversion tool
[16:20] <zezu> what is the easiest way to resize the partition ubuntu is installed on ?  i tried booting to rescue mode, getting root, unmounted and using parted but i get errors saying that /dev/sda* is missing and there are no devices from parted
[16:20] <dr_Willis> Bodsda,  perhaps try DeVeDe also
[16:20] <Bodsda> thanking you kindly ikonia
[16:20] <Slart> Bodsda: I don't know if DeVeDe can work with rmvb files.. but it creates dvds from regular video files..
[16:20] <Bodsda> dr_Willis, will do, cheers
[16:20] <Bodsda> cheers guys
[16:20] <dr_Willis> zezu,  i just use the Gparted Live cd.
[16:20] <MeAndy> sounds scary!!!
[16:20] <zezu> hmm, that would work, but can't write a cd atm
[16:20] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: <dumb> why not use tor (as slow as it may be) to find a set of proxies that work for you?
[16:20] <Reaverbot> how could I do a partition from my disk if I partition it all to .ext3 format.
[16:20] <zezu> i installed through some crazy means that didn't even work how it should and turned into a netboot
[16:21] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw:  oh wow why didn't I think of that
[16:21] <scampbell> kyrksaeterora: I setup an openvpn server at home on port 443, I haven't found anyplace in years that blocks me. It also allows me full access to the internet for anything.  I'm running IRC through it right now.
[16:21] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw:  okay thanks dude I'll do that
[16:21] <ikonia> Reaverbot: use a tool like gparted
[16:21] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: took me a while, too...
[16:21] <kyrksaeterora> nmh-j2graw:  there any way to get torpark or a similar tor browser through sudo apt-get?
[16:21] <Reaverbot> ikonia: yes, but it says to me only / can do this. And I cant do another partition because I am using in ext3 format the entire disk.
[16:22] <ikonia> Reaverbot: I don't understand what you want to do
[16:22] <Reaverbot> So, how could I create a new partition?
[16:22] <jin_> Reaverbot, use gparted
[16:22] <Reaverbot> ikonia: i have all my disk (110gb) sin /dev/sda1
[16:22] <ikonia> Reaverbot if you have no free spaces on the disk it's very hard to re-partition
[16:22] <Reaverbot> And I cant do a new partition
[16:22] <MeAndy> is it not possibe to find a peice of software to do it?
[16:22] <Reaverbot> ikonia: better format?
[16:23] <ikonia> Reaverbot formatting won't do anything as your partition will still be allocated
[16:23] <cira> hi
[16:23] <albertico> nmh-j2graw, have not worked with those features on nginx, but if I am not wrong, there are modules (mod_accel and mod_deflate) that use compression for caching and acceleration...
[16:23] <Reaverbot> ikonia: But from the cd of windows xp I could undo the partition.
[16:23] <nmh-j2graw> kyrksaeterora: don't know, but looking at the tor info, it seems that you could get tor running and then point your normal webbrowser at a local proxy/entrypoint
[16:23] <ikonia> Reaverbot thats your call
[16:23] <Kingcrusha> is anybody running knoppix in here?
[16:23] <ikonia> Kingcrusha no, this is ubuntu support
[16:24] <Reaverbot> ikonia: So, is very hard to reparition?
[16:24] <dr_Willis> Kingcrusha,  i have in the past.. but it has its own channel
[16:24] <bazhang> Kingcrusha, try #knoppix
[16:24] <ikonia> Reaverbot: if the disk is %100 allocated
[16:24] <Reaverbot> Better format and undo the partition?
[16:24] <Aaqil_> Hello what is that busy/away etc on my ubuntu panel?
[16:24] <Kingcrusha> i see so only ubuntu talk
[16:24] <nmh-j2graw> albertico: hmm.. next time I revisit my frontend setup, I will have to try it out (against apache+friends)
[16:24] <Reaverbot> ikonia: yes, 100% :(
[16:24] <ikonia> Reaverbot: bit tricky
[16:24] <Kingcrusha> XD
[16:24] <MeAndy> Kingcrusha: knoppix is cool!!!
[16:24] <terje> why are there no bitchx packages in 8.10 ?
[16:24] <Kingcrusha> its supposed to be great for hacking ive heard
[16:24] <Reaverbot> ikonia: Ok, i will format, and do two partitions.
[16:24] <Reaverbot> Thanks.
[16:24] <ikonia> terje: it's a dead product
[16:24] <ikonia> Kingcrusha: you heard wrong
[16:25] <terje> is it?
[16:25] <ikonia> Kingcrusha: and this is offtopic
[16:25] <albertico> nmh-j2graw, yeah... that's exactly what I am doing
[16:25] <bazhang> Kingcrusha, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[16:25] <zezu> eh i forgot skype doesn't provide a 64b binary
[16:25] <terje> ikonia, what's the successor I wonder?
[16:25] <ikonia> terje: irssi
[16:25] <terje> thanks.
[16:25] <ikonia> terje: or teh long awatied bitchx2
[16:25] <Kingcrusha> k
[16:25] <zezu> how annoying
[16:25] <terje> huh
[16:25] <terje> k
[16:25] <TheBuzzSaw> Hey, are there any SQL experts who could help me solve a small problem?
[16:25] <zezu> i can force the deb install anyways even w/ wrong arch ?
[16:25] <Enissay> how to autostart programs that requires root privileges???
[16:26] <ikonia> zezu: why would you do that, it won't work
[16:26] <MeAndy> Kingcrusha: go to   #knoppix ;)
[16:26] <ikonia> Enissay: use an init script
[16:26] <Slart> zezu: yes
[16:26] <Kingcrusha> aight
[16:26] <ikonia> TheBuzzSaw: ask the question
[16:26] <terje> cause pidgen for IRC ain't cuttin it.
[16:26] <zezu> no?  from i386 -> x64 ?
[16:26] <Slart> zezu: but there is a skype package
[16:26] <ikonia> zezu: no
[16:26] <zezu> hmm
[16:26] <Slart> zezu: let me check how I installed mine..
[16:26] <zezu> Slart, its on the repos ?
[16:27] <Slart> zezu: I think it's on some repo.. let me search
[16:27] <minhtua_hd> ngocminh_218hd
[16:27] <Enissay> ikonia: do have any example for me?
[16:27] <minhtua_hd> vbm
[16:27] <ikonia> Enissay: there are plenty in /etc/init.d
[16:27] <minhtua_hd> rttttttttttttti
[16:27] <ikonia> minhtua_hd: please don't
[16:27] <Slart> zezu: medibuntu.. !medibuntu for more info
[16:27] <zezu> !medibuntu
[16:28] <zezu> hmm that url is down,, i'll find it
[16:29] <terje> hey thanks, irssi is sweet!
[16:29] <dr_Willis> a lof of Ubuntu related sites are slow/sluggish it seems. :)
[16:29] <zezu> ok the repos. is st ored on that server as well, guess i wont be using it :)
[16:29] <TheBuzzSaw> Is there an SQL expert who could help me solve a small problem? Can you message me directly? I have other messengers as well.
[16:31] <Slart> zezu: I'm not sure how they setup their stuff... but when the site comes online there is info on how to add it etc
[16:31] <zezu> yes i found that on ubuntu wiki
[16:31] <_UsUrPeR__> goooood morning all. Quick question: How do I remove the "places" and "system" drop-down menu from the ubuntu desktop for a guest account?
[16:32] <babo_> the skype repo doesn't work
[16:33] <Slart> _UsUrPeR__: there is a main menu editor in .. system, preferences perhaps? try just removing it using that
[16:33] <Bodsda> ikonia, does mencoder have a gui? im getting lost in the man garbage which seems to be more about mplayer then anything else (man mencoder)
[16:33] <dr_Willis> _UsUrPeR__,  as that user. open the file manager. on the left side bar.. ya just delete the places you dont want.. BUT im not sure you can delete those.. it maybe a gnomeconfig  setting ya have to tweak
[16:33] <zezu> any recomendations to something real easy to drop into my swap partitions (i'll disable then make it ext2) to run parted from ?
[16:33] <_UsUrPeR__> thanks guys
[16:33] <_UsUrPeR__> I'll check that next
[16:34] <dr_Willis> zezu,  you mean some linux to install to them?
[16:34] <zezu> yes
[16:34] <dr_Willis> zezu,  dsl/puppylinux would be the smallests
[16:34] <zezu> i mean dsl is small enough, but how to install it ? just drop vmlinuz etc in there ?
[16:34] <Cripps> I need to set up a tftp serve to boot an embedded target ... I have the tftp config set up using xinetd ... the question I have is: I have two network interfaces(eth0, eth1), and eth1 is the one configured to talk to the target .... how do I get tftpd to talk using eth1 instead of eth0 ?
[16:34] <dr_Willis> you would have to use their installer.. :) i guess
[16:34] <dr_Willis> zezu,  with pupy ya copy the files.. and fix up grub to boot it.
[16:35] <zezu> ok
[16:36] <zezu> dr_Willis, its an iso, is it a livecd or installer ?
[16:39] <Aaqil_> what is busy/away/online/offline in my panel .... ?
[16:41] <Aaqil_> what is busy/away/online/offline in my panel .... ?
[16:41] <break_free> Aaqil_, are you using some sort of instand messenger app?
[16:41] <break_free> *instant
[16:42] <Aaqil_> break no that is in my ubuntu panel with options logout etc
[16:42] <Aaqil_> ubuntu 8.10 break_free
[16:42] <LetsGo67> !midi
[16:43] <Aaqil_> break_free: with my ubuntu username written on the panel
[16:43] <KKyle> hello, can anyone assist me in the installation process... or at least advise me in which release I should get?
[16:43] <break_free> KKyle, what kidn of hardware do you have
[16:43] <Aaqil_> break_free: that is changing my piding status messages :-s
[16:44] <T_Davis> I am attempting to install hardy on a thinkpad Iseries 1400, the bios reports the hdd as 4645mb the installation partitioner reports as 4.9gb and hangs at 33% of creating partition, I have searched google, and the forums, no joy, any help?
[16:44] <break_free> Aaqil, not sure
[16:44] <Elena__> Hello ! Can i join a langochat channel with xchat or i must install something else ?
[16:44] <elisboa> Elena__: only xchat will suffice
[16:44] <Elena__> Thanks
[16:45] <KKyle> break_free, I have a laptop with the intel core 2 4gigs of ram and it's running a 64 bit vista
[16:47] <ReAn> i <3 how the kernel is the last thing the minimal CD installs
[16:48] <break_free> KKyle, you could try ubuntu 64-bit edition....
[16:48] <Slart> KKyle: I would recommand  the amd64 version since you have 4GB of memory
[16:48] <break_free> KKyle, what are you looking for? It's kinda hard to give you suggestions
[16:49] <Slart> KKyle: if you want a regular desktop computer, that is
[16:49] <Slart> KKyle: ubuntu/kubuntu or Xubuntu depending on taste
[16:49] <gribouille> I think I'm going to get completley crazy
[16:49] <KKyle> I'm trying to switch from vista to ubuntu but I would prefer 32 bit
[16:49] <vmelo> anyone around know the name of the package which show exit options in ubuntu?
[16:49] <Slart> KKyle: I don't think you'll get to use all your memory if you go 32-bit
[16:50] <vmelo> I realized a translation mistake, but I don't know this package's name
[16:50] <albertico> KKyle, Ubuntu 8.04 is the latest stable version... Ubuntu 8.10 will be released on 6 days
[16:50] <albertico> KKyle, i would also recommend the amd64 version
[16:51] <KKyle> albertico, even with the intel chip?
[16:51] <Slart> KKyle: it's just called amd64 as some kind of homage to amd for being first with 64 bit consumer chip or something like that
[16:51] <Flannel> KKyle: AMD64 is the generic name for 64 bit, just as i386 is generic for 32.
[16:51] <Slart> KKyle: it's designed for both intel and amd processors
[16:51] <KKyle> slart, ah ok
[16:52] <albertico> KKyle, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo and I am using the amd64 version
[16:52] <Doonznix> o.O
 I'm trying to switch from vista to ubuntu but I would prefer 32 bit <--- why would anyone 'prefer' 32 bit over 64 bit outside the realm of windows where 64bit is just humor-wear
[16:52] <ReAn> ??
[16:53] <albertico> KKyle, the amd part of the name comes because the company AMD is the one who designed the processor's instruction set... it's a sort of generic name for both processors... bottom line, it will run without problems on your intel chip
[16:53] <ichudov> ReAn: there is a few 64 bit things that do not work as well such as Flash. 32 bit is therefore still preferable
[16:53] <ReAn> i guess...
[16:53] <nmh-j2graw> ReAn: somethings are easier for 32bit systems, and if you don't need the extra memory space/usage/whatever, I am not sure there is much use for it.
[16:53] <ReAn> i wasn't able to get flash working on either 32 or 64 bit
[16:54] <KKyle> rean, I didn't think it was compatible with many sofware systems
[16:54] <Flannel> KKyle: It is.  You won't have a problem with anything non-proprietary
[16:54] <albertico> ReAn, you mean the flash plugin?
[16:54] <sylvar> Hi all. I'm running hardy on a 32-bit server and I'd like to be able to use more than 4GB of memory at a time. What's the best way to add hugemem to my kernel?
[16:54] <ReAn> albertico: i meant flash in general, i can't get it running AT ALL on my ubuntu distro
[16:54] <KKyle> flannel, okay I'm going to give it a try, I'll be back in an hour or so
[16:55] <Flannel> sylvar: install the server kernel and you'll get PAE
[16:55] <zezu> great
[16:55] <zezu> gparted craps out complaining about /dev/hdb (which doesn't exist)
[16:55] <sylvar> Flannel: thanks! I'm running 2.6.24-21-server right now, but postgres says that 9GB of shared buffers "overflows size_t".
[16:55] <albertico> ReAn, I watch downloaded swf files using VLC
[16:56] <ReAn> it was more for web
[16:57] <ReAn> in fact
[16:57] <ReAn> lack of flash support was the final straw which brought me back to vista of all OS'es
[16:57] <albertico> ReAn, I have flash running on firefox with the flashplugin-nonfree and the nspluginwrapper packages
[16:57] <vmelo> anyone around know the name of the package which show exit options in ubuntu?
[16:58] <albertico> ReAn, flashplugin-nonfree version 9.0.124.0ubuntu2
[16:59] <albertico> ReAn, nspluginwrapper version 0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2
[16:59] <KKyle> Also, another question, just an afterthought. I was trying to install it on my desktop a few months ago and during installation to get to the live, random characters covered a border surrounding a message saying that x11 was messed up
[17:00] <T_Davis> sorry to repeat but I'm stumped, thinkpad iseries 1400 cmos reports 4645MB hardy install partitioner reports 4.9gb hangs at 33% of partitioning, thanks in advance
[17:01] <dr_Willis> T_Davis,  try the gparted live cd perhaps? Ive had good luck with it on 'problem' machines.
[17:02] <T_Davis> curiously I have never gotten the live cd, always the alternate without checking that checkbox
[17:02] <Decepticon> how do i get the home folder to be an icon on my desktop
[17:03] <T_Davis> been with ubuntu since dapper, and never a live cd
[17:03] <Bodsda> hi, whenever i try to run "ffmpeg -i infile.rmvb -target dvd outfile.vob" with the correct file paths obviously. I get an error "Please prefix target with "pal-", "ntsc-" or "film-"" but i dont know how to construct the command with these options nor do i no which option to use
[17:04] <nnull> how can i make the pc shutdown in 7 hours?
[17:04] <Bodsda> nnull, sudo shutdown time:here    check man page for details
[17:04] <T_Davis> bodsa: the ntsc or pal is the output format of the tv you intend to view it on
[17:05] <nnull> Bodsda¬ mkthx
[17:05] <Mixed432> what's the volume control where you can control all of your device in gnome called???
[17:05] <albertico> Decepticon, for a more user friendly way to tweak your desktop experience, I would suggest the ubuntu-tweak project
[17:05] <Tundrayeti312> nnull: sudo shutdown -h +7h ... I believe would work, but yeah check the man page
[17:05] <MojadoGringo> Anyone know when the new version of GIMP is going to be available via the standard repostitories?
[17:05] <Bodsda> T_Davis, i intend to view it on a normal tv
[17:05] <T_Davis> normal where? US=ntsc asia=pal, dont know europe
[17:05] <JannoT> !shoutcast
[17:06] <Bodsda> T_Davis, England - dunno what the standard is here
[17:06] <T_Davis> !icecast
[17:06] <T_Davis> bodsa where are you?
[17:06] <acidtop> ubuntu 8.04, sound Card: SBLive! Value [CT4670] Chip: TriTech id 3: the mic is on all the time with no control when adjusting levels using alsamixer
[17:06] <Codedrunk_work> England is PAL
[17:06] <Bodsda> cheers Codedrunk_work
[17:06] <MojadoGringo> I'm in the US, using Kubuntu and Adept. The new version of GIMP has been available for almost a month now.
[17:06] <Bodsda> T_Davis, so how would i construct the command with the pal option?
[17:07] <T_Davis> ok one mo
[17:07] <Bodsda> cheers T_Davis
[17:07] <T_Davis> you aint gonna believe this, I dont have a ubuntu box functional to look at, :(
[17:07] <T_Davis> just looked over there and its dead
[17:07] <kitche> MojadoGringo: and your point about it being available for a month ubuntu doesn't update packages based on versions but more about security patches
[17:07] <nnull> Bodsda¬ ok i did shutdown but accidently for 7 mins, how do i stop it from shutting down in 7 mins? just close the terminal window or?
[17:07] <Puppy> any idea how to change the default port on tightvnc server
[17:08] <Bodsda> T_Davis, lol, It tells me to prefix the word 'target' with "pal-"
[17:08] <MojadoGringo> Thanks, Kitche. I know it will show up eventuall, just curious if anyone had heard.
[17:08] <Bodsda> nnull, dunno, lol you have seven minutes to scan the manpage and find out :)
[17:08] <T_Davis> then it would be pal-target
[17:08] <albertico> nnull, sudo shutdown -c
[17:08] <nnull> Bodsda¬ have a look yourself, theres barely a page there
[17:08] <nnull> albertico¬ thx
[17:08] <Bodsda> T_Davis, Unable to find a suitable output format for 'pal-target'
[17:08] <albertico> nnull, but look at the man page
[17:09] <nnull> i did
[17:09]  * Puppy needs a nice dark theme for Ubuntu
[17:09] <nnull> have a look
[17:09] <nnull> maybe 6 lines of info
[17:09] <Bodsda> Puppy, search gnome-look for SlicknesS
[17:09] <T_Davis> puppy: ubuntu satanic edition?
[17:09] <albertico> nnull, click 'page down' to keep reading the man page... you should never miss the OPTIONS part
[17:10] <defrysk> Bodsda ffmpeg -i blah.avi -target pal-dvd blah.mpg
[17:10] <defrysk> bosdto conver tit to dvd files:
[17:10] <Makdaam> hello, I've got a problem with wpa_supplicant skipping an AP because of "skip RSN IE - GTK cipher mismatch"
[17:10] <T_Davis> and be patient, that takes a while
[17:11] <Bodsda> defrysk, thanks dude -- any idea what this error is or how to fix? Unknown encoder 'mpeg2video'
[17:12] <Bodsda> g2g bye
[17:12] <defrysk> Bodsda use dvdauthor to convert the frashly made mpg to dvd folders
[17:12] <defrysk> freshly
[17:12] <Makdaam> what does GTK cipher mismatch mean?
[17:12] <defrysk> Bodsda, use ffmpeg fron the medibuntu repo
[17:12] <defrysk> from
[17:13] <w0ls0n> hello all once again. I am trying to install an NVIDIA driver. If I run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, it freezes at running local boot scripts. Is there a way to boot the machine directly to console and still be able to access the internet?
[17:14] <RonzO> w0ls0n, are you connecting with lan or wireless?
[17:14] <Makdaam> w0ls0n: are you connected through ethernet or wifi?
[17:14] <w0ls0n> ethernet
[17:14] <Makdaam> DHCP?
[17:14] <w0ls0n> yep
[17:14] <RonzO> w0ls0n, should be connected
[17:14] <Makdaam> w0ls0n: dhclient eth0
[17:14] <w0ls0n> sorry I gotta tun out
[17:14] <xanderp> I'm having problems getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to be available before login, (so that I can use them to login actually)  If I log in with usb k/m then as soon as my session starts the bluetooth k/m work fine, so they will auto connect, just not before login.  Help please.  This is a brand new install, the only thing i've done so far is install envy for the nvidia card and hard code the mac addresses for the keyboard and mouse for the
[17:14] <xanderp> bluetooth stack.
[17:14] <defrysk> w0ls0n, go to a tty do sudo killall gdm , then install the driver
[17:14] <kitche> w0ls0n: are you sure it's frozen since how ubuntu boot scripts work the login prompt is actually higher then the local boot scripts I have found out
[17:15] <RonzO> quick question, i was talking to someone about nvidia drivers yesterday, and they said there are actually 2: the binary ones and there are free ones (novou, or something like that) does anyone know the name of the free driver, or know how well it works compared to the binary ones?
[17:15] <T_Davis> w0ls0n: yes, local boot scripts take place after gdm
[17:16] <smoovep> Question? php stop sending mail after i changed the computer name.. i modified the hosts file... is there anthing else i need to verify ? Thanks.
[17:16] <kitche> RonzO: nouveau
[17:16] <defrysk> RonzO, nouveau is still under heavy development
[17:16] <lunafreestate> hello, I am trying to convert a desktop install into a headless server and I can't seem to get rid of the desktop
[17:16] <w0ls0n> LOL
[17:16] <paul68> Is it usefull to add ACL lists in my dns config files or is that for just a homenetwork a bit over the top?
[17:16] <w0ls0n> nm I figured it out. I'm waiting for a login and hit CTRL-F1
[17:17] <RonzO> kitche, defDfloyd wine was under development for 15 years...how well do they run compared to the nvidia binaries? =)
[17:17] <kitche> RonzO: how am I suppose to know I don't use nouveau since I don't care about GPL
[17:17] <defrysk> RonzO, as a turtle against a rabbit
[17:17] <RonzO> defrysk, but the turtle won, lol
[17:18] <defrysk> as a bycycle against a plane
[17:18] <xanderp> the nvidia binaries have always blown away the free ones for my purposes...
[17:18] <RonzO> that works. ty =)
[17:18] <Walex3> So we'd like on our site to put some local icons on the GNOME desktop, as "default" icons. To do so IIRC one muyst register them with the global GCONF database. Please let give me a pointer to some page with the details.
[17:18] <lunafreestate> any one know how to uninstall the desktop?
[17:18] <defrysk> RonzO, eventually nouveau will win yes :)
[17:18] <RonzO> defrysk, i like releases every few weeks, not every 2 months
[17:18] <RonzO> defrysk, and yes, they will win
[17:18] <xanderp> any thoughts on my bluetooth before login for mouse/keyboard issue?
[17:18] <defrysk> lunafreestate, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gdm ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:19] <T_Davis> xanderp: perhaps create an init.d script using the skeleton and place it to go off before gdm
[17:19] <lunafreestate> what does the gdm do, or what program is it?
[17:19] <T_Davis> gnome display manager
[17:19] <xanderp> hmmm...
[17:19] <NiMB> Hello, i need help with my 3 broadband modem..
[17:19] <lunafreestate> thank you
[17:20] <LjL> !bluetooth | xanderp
[17:20] <paul68> Is it usefull to add ACL lists in my dns config files or is that for just a homenetwork a bit over the top?
[17:20]  * xanderp reading, thanks
[17:20] <T_Davis> grrr gparted reports my hdd as 4.9gb too, and bios reports 4645MB
[17:20] <albertico> NiMB, you mean 3G broadband modem?
[17:21] <j> How do I apt-get alien-arena without apt-getting alien-arena-data ?
[17:21] <T_Davis> and once again hung at 33%
[17:21] <NiMB> Yes albertico
[17:22] <NiMB> And it is the USB version..
[17:22] <Jago25_98> nick jago25_99
[17:22] <LjL> J: you don't, it's a dependency
[17:22] <nmh-j2graw> T_Davis, have you tried using 4.5G of the disk?
[17:22] <NiMB> I have a little problem when i type wvdial hsdpa
[17:22] <jago25_99> LjL, can't I force it, so I can examine the package?
[17:22] <T_Davis> nmh-j2graw: yes, no joy there
[17:22] <Mixed432> I have really crappy sound when I route appz through JACK, when I don't use JACK the appz sound just fine, anyone ever had the same problem????
[17:22] <LjL> jago25_99: no, you can't. but if you just want to examine the package, you can just download it and extract it manually...?
[17:22] <NiMB> its sending ATZ and ATQ0, and then re-sending ATZ, and then says modem not responding..
[17:23] <lunafreestate> defrysk:  it worked like a charm, I just hope I can handle it with out a gui
[17:23] <albertico> NiMB, are you using wvdial?
[17:23] <paul68> can someone help me with advanced configuration of DNS
[17:23] <defrysk> lunafreestate, then reistall it ;)
[17:23] <Decepticon> is it possible to install ubuntu if the livecd wont give me a working desktop
[17:23] <Decepticon> or do i HAVE to use the alternate cd
[17:23] <albertico> paul68, what do you mean by advanced?
[17:23] <jxl759> Hey all! I need help installing wbarconf...I'm not in Ubuntu at the moment though...
[17:23] <nmh-j2graw> T_Davis, is there a limit jumper on the disk? (or in the bios) that you can use to clip the size down to, say 2GB or 4GB?
[17:24] <kitche> Decepticon: alternate cd
[17:24] <smoovep> Question? Sendmail stop sending emails after i change the computer name.. i updated hosts to reflect the new name.. Anything else i need to check?? Thanks.
[17:24] <NiMB> albertico yes, typing wvdial hsdpa, its sending ATZ and ATQ0, and then re-sending ATZ, and then says modem not responding..
[17:24] <LjL> Decepticon: you can also use the minimal cd
[17:24] <Decepticon> man ive been burning too many cds :(
[17:24] <defrysk> Decepticon, my advice would be to get the alternative installer
[17:24] <mongolai> Decepticon:  you're already tried the safe graphocs mode?
[17:24] <LjL> Decepticon: you can also install from a usb key
[17:24] <Decepticon> LjL dunno if my bios supports that
[17:24] <paul68> albertico: I want to know if It's usefull to use ACL declarations and where do I have to put these for a homenetwork
[17:24] <lunafreestate> defrysk:   that is the point, I am forcing my self to learn to use only the shell for the admin of my file server and print server
[17:25] <shanet> .
[17:25] <defrysk> lunafreestate, good stuff :)
[17:25] <albertico> NiMB, did you define an hsdpa section on the config file?
[17:25] <nmh-j2graw> lunafreestate, you could also choose to just use the command line (in a terminal emulator)
[17:26] <lunafreestate> defrysk:  except cups isn't working now.
[17:26] <roman_> hi! i can't find mysqli in the repos. why?
[17:26] <mongolai> there's a certain romance in having text-mode only though...
[17:26] <NiMB> albertico im not sure, im quiet new, and just follow a guide online..
[17:26] <lunafreestate> nmh: no I always fall back on the gui
[17:26] <paul68> albertico: reconfiguring my server in such a way that I can use it as a router with firewall but concerning the DNS I'm wondering if its usefull to use acl declarations
[17:27] <nmh-j2graw> lunafreestate: oh, okay
[17:29] <albertico> NiMB, you must first configure the wvdial.conf with your provider parameters
[17:29] <albertico> NiMB, /etc/wvdial.conf
[17:30] <maw> cabrioleur: fyi, my nvidia card worked right away... where as my ATI3850 was locking the system up
[17:30] <sambagirl> everytime i try to add a line to  /etc/apt/sources.list but it says i dont have permissoins. i have done sudo already what is the correct syntax?
[17:30] <mongolai> sudo nano /etc/ap...
[17:31] <sambagirl> what does nano mean?
[17:31] <NiMB> I have done that albertico
[17:31] <mongolai> sambagirl:  ... or gksu gedit /etc....
[17:31] <paul68> albertico: did you get my comments?
[17:31] <lucax> does any one know how to change emesene background chat color?
[17:31] <albertico> paul68, I have never done such configuration on a dns server, but have read about it... here is a page I bookmarked some time ago: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/acl.html
[17:31] <mongolai> sambagirl:  nano is a text-mode text editor.
[17:31] <sambagirl> that did it :)
[17:32] <sambagirl> well let me verify it
[17:32] <ved> salut
[17:32] <opticalmouse> sorry,can ubuntu 8.10 RC being upgrade to the final release?
[17:32] <albertico> NiMB, so did you configure a hsdpa section in there?
[17:32] <paul68> albertico: me neither lol that's why I'm trying ;-)
[17:33] <opticalmouse> sorry,can ubuntu 8.10 RC being upgrade to the 8.10 final release?
[17:33] <defrysk> opticalmouse, yes
[17:33] <opticalmouse> tq
[17:33] <Deiselton> guys i need help.. how do i configure my webserver in ubuntu?
[17:33] <opticalmouse> :D
[17:33] <zezu> how can i update the partition table in the kernel w/o rebooting ?
[17:33] <jussi01> !final
[17:34] <magnetron> Deiselton→ that totally depends on which webserver you are running. apache? lighttpd?
[17:34] <gnubuntu> Deiselton: what exactly do you want to cofigure?
[17:34] <defrysk> zezu, sudo mount -a
[17:34] <zezu> defrysk, that doesn't do it ;|
[17:34] <defrysk> zezu, if that is what you mean
[17:35] <zezu> nope, a new partition isn't in the kernel yet, so i can't write a fs to it
[17:35] <albertico> NiMB, if you configured your provider parameters under the [Dialer defaults] section, then try the command without the hspda parameter: sudo wvdial
[17:35] <zezu> and i hate rebooting a million times
[17:35] <Deiselton> magnetron... i dont know which one im running how do i find out?... and gnuubuntu i need to configure it to run jnpl files with the java JRE so i can create java webstart apps
[17:35] <mabus> how can I boot /dev/sda1 from grub command line
[17:35] <zezu> I know i've done it before, but can't seem to recall how
[17:35] <albertico> paul68, you can also take a look at the djbdns project
[17:36] <zezu> mabus, root (hd0,0)  then setup your kernel etc then boot
[17:36] <zezu> maybe a setup cmd too, try the man page
[17:36] <mabus> zeco: no, the kernl would be on sda1
[17:36] <mabus> where hd0,0 does not point to that
[17:36] <zeco> hey people, I'm having trouble with my wireless since upgrading to Intrepid RC. Before the upgrade I had it working with ndiswrapper (broadcom) now the interface wlan0 is gone. No ideas on #ubuntu+1 yet
[17:36] <zezu> well then you need to figure out the ordering
[17:36] <paul68> albertico: thanks
[17:37] <gnubuntu> Does anyone has syscp get working on ubuntu hardy?
[17:37] <zezu> grub just uses the drives in the order it enumerates them
[17:37] <zezu> hd0 - x
[17:37] <mabus> well I don
[17:37] <defrysk> zeco, still ubuntu+1 is the place to be
[17:37] <mabus> t see anything other than hd0 when I hit h-tab
[17:37] <lunafreestate> any one know how to get cups to start at boot?
[17:37] <baastrup> hey there, by cpu dos'nt support vmx, can i use KVM anyway?
[17:37] <zezu> mabus .. then its hd0
[17:37] <zezu> do you have any other drives ?
[17:37] <_UsUrPeR__> dr_willis & slart: pertaining to the "places" menu, I am not able to remove a mounted CD ROM or mounted windows partition from the menu. It would be much easier for me to totally remove the menus in their entirety.
[17:37] <mabus> zezu: it is not hd0
[17:38] <zeco> defrysk: only six days left ;) but perhaps someone has an idea independent of this being ibex
[17:38] <mabus> the drive grub booted off is hd0
[17:38] <T_Davis> question, is there a nofloppy option in kernel options? my floppy is dead and no option to disable in bios
[17:39] <mabus> zezu: so what is preventing the other devices from being enumerated
[17:40] <zezu> mabus, no clue
[17:40] <mabus> I have a usb cdrom and a usb hdd that are both plugged in and work when booted, but not in grub
[17:40] <mabus> I have a broken install and no bootable media
[17:40] <Deiselton> gnuubuntu: any ideas?
[17:41] <saxonjf> I need some help with audio in Intrepid.  Anyone able to give me a hand?
[17:41] <finek> my bluetooth applet starts with system, how to turn off autorunning?
[17:42] <erki> mabus: Is there anything in BIOS that prevents the USB stuff during bootup?
[17:43] <finek> my bluetooth applet starts with system, how to turn off it from autostart?
[17:43] <mabus> erki: I dont believe so, I dont think it has direct support to boot off of it, like in the bios
[17:43] <mabus> but shouldnt grub be able toboot it if it's loaded off of the bootable ide?
[17:43] <kc8pxy_> how do i add my main user to the vboxusers group?
[17:43] <Pici> saxonjf: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[17:43] <erki> mabus: The boot sector might be fine even though the root partition is not.
[17:43] <ubuntu> hey all, I'm on a desktop without an fn key, is there an easy way to switch my video output to the s video
[17:44] <saxonjf> Pici, getting no help there
[17:44] <Pici> saxonjf: Be patient.
[17:44] <saxonjf> thanks for nothing, Pici
[17:44] <andresmh> i have a couple of mp4 videos that I want to concatenate into one single video, what is the easiest tool available via the synaptic to do that?
[17:45] <mabus> erki: the root partition of my hd with an install is messed, but it can at least boot
[17:45] <mabus> to grub
[17:45] <ubuntu> andresmh: maybe mencoder has a frontend?
[17:45] <mabus> what I'm trying to do is boot off of my usb hdd
[17:46] <andresmh> thanks ubuntu, i am looking for something with an easy UI, kind of like Windows Movie Maker
[17:46] <erki> mabus: Yes, and USB is loaded by the kernel, which runs after GRUB. I'm fairly sure GRUB itself has no way to do USB stuff unless BIOS supports it.
[17:46] <nmh-j2graw> andresj: have you looked at any of the NLEs?
[17:46] <ubuntu> andresmh: hmm not sure then
[17:46] <Nedlinpopo> erki is correct.
[17:47] <flaviasilva> poi
[17:47] <ubuntu> hey all, I'm on a desktop without an fn key, is there an easy way to switch my video output to the s video
[17:47] <flaviasilva> jp
[17:47] <Mamoru_Sabishii> defrysk: yo still there
[17:47] <droopsta915> what flash drives are made with linux in mind?
[17:47] <flaviasilva> oi loma
[17:47] <mabus> erki: doh, I think its because it's not on the motherboard usb
[17:47] <finek> how to delete some procecess from autostart?
[17:47] <mabus> its in a pci card
[17:48] <kc8pxy_> droopsta915:  .... all of them??
[17:48] <finek> :(
[17:48] <erki> mabus: That might make a difference, but I still suspect you might need to change some BIOS settings. No harm in trying though.
[17:48] <droopsta915> kc8pxy_:I notice some say, with windows or vista in mind, does that matter? Will it work with linux?
[17:48] <Pici> !boot | finek
[17:49] <finek> Pici, :*
[17:49] <finek> ;)
[17:49] <tiloma> oi flavia
[17:49] <flaviasilva> oi tiloma como vai
[17:49] <andresmh> how do I change the background image that shows up when logging in?
[17:50] <tiloma> bem baixinha
[17:50] <tak11> andatche
[17:50] <Pici> !br
[17:50] <tak11> you mean your bootsplash?
[17:50] <tak11> or your usplash,
[17:50] <tak11> or your grub boot menu,
[17:50] <flaviasilva> vc gosta de luan
[17:50] <magnetron> tak11→ the gdm background
[17:50] <tiloma> é
[17:50] <tiloma> e vc
[17:50] <tiloma> ?
[17:50] <cyberix> What is the default theme for ibex?
[17:50] <Pici> !br | tiloma flaviasilva
[17:50] <kc8pxy_> droopsta915:  i have yet to see a thumb drive not automagically work with linux.   they might have additional features that are aware of windows, but they should all show as USB mass storage in linux.
[17:51] <tak11> andresmh pvt and i'll help you out,
[17:51] <flaviasilva> não porque ele é meu primo
[17:51] <tiloma> ta com a mao na bunda nao sabe escrever rapido kkkkkkk
[17:51] <Meeso_OS> do you know if there is a driver for keyboards that have sound control buttons?
[17:51] <tiloma> minha filha so pq ele é sdu primo naum pode dar uns trecinho nele né gata
[17:52] <flaviasilva> e aquele negocio de julia
[17:52] <tak11> Meeso_OS mine normally work, so-so
[17:52] <erki> !english
[17:52] <tiloma> cala a boca fofoqueira por isso que ninguem gosta de falar nada com vc rsrsrs
[17:52] <tak11> idk about specific driver, try asking on the forums,
[17:53] <lucax> can i update hardy to intrepid via terminal not needing to download and install the intrepid iso?
[17:53] <Meeso_OS> :O
[17:53] <Meeso_OS> theres a new update?
[17:53] <Pici> !ibex | lucax
[17:53] <defrysk> lucax, /j #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <lucax> k thanks
[17:54] <xtian_> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu on a new computer I built, and I am having problems getting my sound to work.
[17:54] <erki> xtian_: Any helpful error messages?
[17:54] <xtian_> a few searches online, and I couldnt find anything of use. I have an onboard realtek ALC889A codec
[17:55] <erki> xtian_: I have fallen for the easy "volume slider set to 0" trap in some installs. Have you checked that?
[17:55] <xtian_> @erki where would I find error messages? I was just trying to watch something in kmplayer, it plays fine, but there is no sound
[17:55] <nikka> hi all. I monted a samba share, using smbfs... it works, i can copy, remove and create new files, etc.. but i can't edit files... other computers on networks can... any idea?
[17:56] <karhl_0> hello
[17:56] <xtian_> erki_: the sliders are all reading on (you are talking about the icon in the bottom right of the screen right?)
[17:56] <karhl_0> is there any people here??
[17:56] <flaviasilva> eu  calo a boca se vc mim falar de quem julia gosta
[17:56] <rivig> i get an error when trying fonts:/// in the nautilus location bar .. do i have to install anything special to make it work?
[17:57] <erki> xtian_: Yeah. Hmm, no login sound either? Ubuntu has a default "congo roll" when logging in.
[17:57] <magnetron> rivig→ try removing a / in that url
[17:57] <LFibex> erki i love that "Congo Roll" its too cool
[17:57] <xtian_> nothing that I remember, although I am not sure my speakers were on when i logged in
[17:57] <kiji> can anyone say something abot pulseaudio in intrepid ibex?
[17:58] <erki> LFibex: Good for you, I hate it and can't get it disabled soon enoug :) I like to be in control of when my computer makes noices :)
[17:58] <Pici> kiji: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[17:58] <LFibex> lol
[17:58] <rivig> magnetron: same error
[17:58] <defrysk> !ibex > kiji
[17:58] <xtian_> erki: but I did try to play some regular sounds and none of them worked as well
[17:58] <erki> xtian_: Ok, that rules that out then...
[17:58] <rivig> magnetron: does it work for you?
[17:59] <xtian_> erki: these were in system --> preferences --> sound --> sound (tab) --> and then just sample one of the sounds
[17:59] <lungren> i was told i could use the WineHQ appDB to download apps to allow specific games to be played that normally couldnt.  how do i download that specific app?
[17:59] <erki> xtian_: And the sound card is integrated to the motherboard?
[17:59] <nikka> hi all. I monted a samba share, using smbfs... it works, i can copy, remove and create new files, etc.. but i can't edit files... other computers on networks can... any idea?
[17:59] <kiji> ok, for the moment and in the near future, does kde4 oder gnome run faster?
[17:59] <Pici> lungren: appdb is not an application, its a website.
[17:59] <magnetron> rivig→ i'm not using nautilus anymore so i can't test it. i think there's a fonts dialog in the appearance settings
[17:59] <xtian_> erki: yes, its a GIgaByte GA-EP45-UDP3 mobo w/ Realtek ALC889A onboard codec
[17:59] <tak11> kiji depends,
[17:59] <tak11> on your configuration,
[18:00] <KKyle> is "Resizing partition" supposed to take 30 min?
[18:00] <_UsUrPeR__> so... there does not appear to be an easy way to remove the "places" and "system" menu. Is that the case?
[18:00] <kiji> how?
[18:00] <tak11> fresh install gnome runs faster, cause its more lightweight,
[18:00] <Pici> KKyle: It can.
[18:00] <Pici> KKyle: Do you have data on the partition?
[18:01] <kiji> tak11: which configuration?
[18:01] <KKyle> pici: only on one
[18:01] <Pici> KKyle: Is it one that it being touched by the resize?
[18:01] <rakgenius> any1 can give info abt wine
[18:01] <Pici> !wine | rakgenius
[18:01] <erki> xtian_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665366 check the last post there
[18:01] <erki> xtian_: I have no idea what they're doing, but it supposedly works :)
[18:02] <xtian_> erki: http://pastebin.com/d620f8018
[18:02] <tak11> kiji, if your worried about speed vs. how it looks, go with a light weight gui,
[18:02] <tak11> like fluxbox,
[18:02] <KKyle> pici: I don't know, I decided to give vista 60 gigs and ubuntu 150
[18:02] <lungren> whats the process i need to do in order to play the games?
[18:02] <tak11> but if you want it to look pritty, =) go w/ either or,
[18:02] <tak11> i personally like gnome,
[18:02] <xtian_> erki: sweet, thanks, ill take a look at this then get back in here if i cant find a solution
[18:02] <xtian_> erki: thanks again
[18:02] <tak11> but both will let you abuse the hell out of the options,
[18:02] <Pici> KKyle: If you're making the vista parition smaller, it will take time because it may need to move the data.
[18:02] <kiji> say, it shouldn't be slower than the windows gui
[18:02] <rakgenius> ubottu: can i install exe files in linux?
[18:02] <tak11> kiji, not even close
[18:03] <Pici> rakgenius: run your programs as arguments to wine. i.e: wine file.exe
[18:03] <rakgenius> can i install exe files in linux/
[18:03] <tak11> rakgenius, yes, install wine,
[18:03] <KKyle> pici: okay I'll wait another half hour
[18:03] <kiji> tak11: what do you mean with "not even close? (i'm not a nativ speaker :) )
[18:03] <rakgenius> ya i installed it
[18:03] <Pici> rakgenius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine explains much of it.  See the "Installing Windows Applications Using Wine" section
[18:04] <tak11> kiji, no all the gui's are much faster than the windows gui in general,
[18:04] <rivig> magnetron: <borschty> that does not work anymore since 2.20 (or 2.22, i'm not sure). the underlying vfs-system got changed and the font:/// backend did not get adapted to it yet
[18:04] <dan_> Hi all, I'm trying to install some icons, but I dont have the correct privileges, I need to log in a root. How do I login as root so I can copy files into it?
[18:05] <dan_> as root
[18:05] <Pici> dan_: Why would installing icons require you to login as root? Where are you trying to put the icons?
[18:05] <rakgenius> ok ..1 more doubt
[18:06] <rakgenius> can i paly games in linux
[18:06] <rakgenius> like counter strike and all
[18:06] <mgolisch> i can
[18:06] <tak11> rakgenius, Im playing GuildWars right now =)
[18:06] <Pici> dan_: If they are only for you, put them in ~/.icons . Otherwise use sudo.
[18:06] <Pici> !sudo > dan_
[18:06] <rakgenius> wat did u do to paly it
[18:06] <Pici> rakgenius: You'll have to use Wine for CS.
[18:07] <tak11> rakgenius, first i had to type winecfg
[18:07] <chema1504> hi
[18:07] <tak11> and set it to emulate a virtual desktop
[18:07] <mgolisch> or just get games that support linux natively
[18:07] <rakgenius> k
[18:07] <rakgenius> den
[18:07] <tak11> then i just used wine
[18:07] <bloodelybay> Hey, what version of xserver is 8.04, or 8.10, using?
[18:07] <dmz> hey everyone, does ubuntu have alsaconf?
[18:07] <dan_> Thanks for that ubottu. I've tried to extract them into the icon folder, but it won't do it... owner is root, so i'm guessing thats the reason
[18:08] <dmz> it appears that debian has it but ubunto doesn't. i'm 90% done configuring this system but need sound, don't really want to rebuild as debian now :/
[18:09] <Harts> hi, who know a good streaming url for series
[18:09] <Harts> ?
[18:10] <geremy> back again- anybody know how to emulate the fn key on a desktop?
[18:10] <Pici> Bravewolf: 7.3 in 8.04, 7.4 in 8.10
[18:10] <Harts> hi, who know a good streaming url for series?
[18:10] <Pici> Harts: What do you mean?
[18:10] <Harts> I want a site for watch tv series like lost
[18:10] <Pici> !piracy | Harts
[18:10] <Bravewolf> Pici: ??????
[18:11] <Pici> Bravewolf: sorry, tab-complete mishap
[18:11] <dmz> so noone has thoughts on how to get sound (no alsaconf) in ubuntu 8 server?
[18:11] <Pici> bloodelybay: 7.3 in 8.04, 7.4 in 8.10
[18:12] <peter771> is there a server op available?
[18:12] <Bravewolf> Pici: np
[18:12] <Pici> peter771: Are you looking for an #ubuntu op or someone from freenode?
[18:13] <peter771> ubuntu
[18:13] <Pici> peter771: join #ubuntu-ops
[18:13] <peter771> #ubuntu-ops
[18:13] <Harts> chanel français adresse ?
[18:13] <Doonznix> lol
[18:13] <Pici> peter771: /join
[18:13] <Pici> !fr | Harts
[18:13] <peter771> I know, thick moment
[18:13] <Doonznix> lHeh
[18:13] <Mamoru_Sabishii> gezz take a while to download 5 dvd ubuntu repositories
[18:13] <Mamoru_Sabishii> sigh
[18:13] <geremy> I'm trying to figure out how to emulate the fn key on a desktop so I can switch to s video from a desktop keyboard, any ideas?
[18:13] <dnb1997> dicks everywhere
[18:13] <Pici> dnb1997: Excuse me?
[18:14] <geremy> the name richard is extremely common
[18:14] <tarvid_> any recommendations on teleconferencing
[18:14] <ReAn> ok
[18:14] <lakesou> if i want a directory be under /, but on a different paritition, should it be created on a secodary or primary parition?
[18:14] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: shouldn't matter
[18:15] <ReAn> second time installing ubuntu from the mini disc, after the "Select the Software you want" prompt it hangs @ 2% "Please Wait..."
[18:15] <ReAn> wtf?
[18:15] <lakesou> nmh-j2graw then what's the difference btw primary and second parition?
[18:15] <lucax> tarvid_, i use skype quite good
[18:15] <geremy> tarvid_: ekiga
[18:16] <tarvid_> lucax, how is it for more than two people?
[18:16] <lakesou> nmh-j2graw i want to make sure my directory on a sperate parition is ok if the system fails
[18:16] <Doonznix> hey is their a bandwidth monitor for ubuntu like Bandwidth monitor for windows
[18:16] <tarvid_> Doonznix, ntop if awesome
[18:17] <lucax> tarvid_, i dunno, but works fine for 2... try it
[18:17] <danbh_intrepid> Doonznix: I use the system monitor
[18:17] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: well, for pc partitions, there are 4 primary, and you can use one of those as an extended partition (subdivided into logical partitions).  Other partitioning (or slicing) systems are different.
[18:18] <geremy> if anybody knows a way to map another key or key sequence to fn, I'd really appreciate it
[18:18] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning if you want to read more.  If the disk fails, I wouldn't hold out much home for anything surviving
[18:21] <ReAn> Can someone help me figure out wtf is wrong with the ubuntu installer. This is the second time i've gone through an entire Install off the Ubuntu Mini Installation, after the "select the software you wish to install" page it moves to the next screen (progress bar) and freezes here:
[18:21] <ReAn> http://images.reanmachine.com/ubuntu-fucked.png
[18:21] <ReAn> It's been sitting here for 15 minutes now
[18:21] <lakesou> nmh-j2graw if i want my directory "data" be under /, but on a different parition, what mount point should i set to? the first parition's mount point already set to /
[18:21] <ReAn> last time i did this i accidentally hit reboot and when it booted up there wasn't a bootable OS on the hard drive
[18:22] <ReAn> it's like an hour long process to get to this point and im about to jump out a window
[18:22] <ReAn> anyone have any ideas?
[18:22] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: you can create a directory (ex. /mydata) and mount the other filesystem there.
[18:22] <danbh_intrepid> ReAn: is this hardy?
[18:23] <ReAn> yea
[18:23] <Puppy> i <3 Ubuntu
[18:23] <danbh_intrepid> ReAn: maybe try the intrepid installer.  If that doesn't work, please, file a bug
[18:23] <ReAn> Intrepid Installer?
[18:23] <ReAn> the command line?
[18:23] <geremy> ReAn: do you have an active internet connection?
[18:23] <ReAn> yes
[18:23] <abchirk> Can anyone tell me a program which can make from a form like this: e.g. 5*3/43 a picture with real math syntax?
[18:23] <mgen> x.org is hogging my cpu at 90%+ , how do I shut it down to a raw text terminal? ctrl+alt+backspace just resets it
[18:24] <lakesou> nmh-j2graw will mydata be under the root (/) ?
[18:24] <ReAn> geremy: it just finished downloading & installing the entire core
[18:24] <geremy> ReAn: can you use the desktop installer
[18:24] <ReAn> and kernel
[18:24] <nmh-j2graw> abchirck: have you tried openoffice or LaTeX (LyX)?
[18:24] <ReAn> Like the full ISO?
[18:24] <zicho> How do i check my ubuntu version ?
[18:24] <geremy> ReAn: yeah
[18:24] <ReAn> im going for minimal
[18:24] <Pretto> is there a way to track the output of launcher execution?
[18:24] <Pici> zicho: lsb_release -a
[18:24] <ReAn> i dont want all that junk
[18:24] <geremy> ReAn: alright, do you have another machine around?
[18:24] <andresmh> how do update my openoffice from 2.4 to 3
[18:24] <abchirk> nmh-j2graw Latex is so complicated. :(
[18:24] <zicho> TY Pici
[18:24] <ReAn> not that i can install ubuntu on
[18:24] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: on a unix system, you has to be under root.
[18:24] <NauarchLysander> When I suspend my Laptop and unlock it, I am no longer able to get any audio output. When I hit the Power Button, it says something like "tpm_inf_pnp activation failed" (I missed some digits before and in between, it's there only a short time). Is there a possibility to fix this?
[18:24] <ReAn> im installing into a Virtual Machine atm
[18:25] <erki> mgen: Press ctrl+alt+f1, login and typ "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[18:25] <nmh-j2graw> abchirk: complicated to install or use or understand?
[18:25] <geremy> andresmh: there's a tar of debs on openoffice.org, download it, extract it to /tmp, cd into it, then do dpkg -i *.deb
[18:25] <lakesou> nmh-j2graw what if i set the new parition mount point to just blank? can i create "mydata" later on that parition?
[18:25] <ReAn> omg jesus, it started to move
[18:25] <abchirk> nmh-j2graw understand/all, I just want to bring easy mathsyntax in a picture
[18:25] <blue-frog> Decepticon: around?
[18:25] <ReAn> 22 minutes @ 2%
[18:25] <Decepticon> blue-frog yes
[18:25]  * ReAn facepalms
[18:26] <blue-frog> Decepticon: what's the outcome?
[18:26] <Decepticon> blue-frog i was able to get the nvidia driver to work with the envy installer
[18:26] <Decepticon> on 8.04
[18:26] <nmh-j2graw> abchirk: have you tried LyX? openoffice equation editor? (note: *I* think LaTeX is one of the easier ways to typeset stuff)
[18:26] <sumdude> anyway to route input to output in pulseaudio? in order for it to be heard?
[18:26] <ReAn> That's a really deceptive progress bar
[18:26] <blue-frog> Decepticon: cool
[18:26] <Decepticon> blue-frog now im installing 8.10 and hoping to do the same
[18:26] <erki> ReAn: As the saying goes: It's a good thing you've got all weekend!
[18:26] <ReAn> heh
[18:26] <nmh-j2graw> lakesou: depending one what exactly you are talking about, "you can't do that" or something.
[18:26] <Pretto> any clue?
[18:26] <ReAn> Installing Linux over shitty university wifi == not reccomended
[18:27] <abchirk> hm nmh-j2graw maybe I have to give Latex a try. :(
[18:27] <erki> abchirk: LaTeX is awesome, really!
[18:27] <nmh-j2graw> abchirk: for just a single equation, you might also want to check out latexit
[18:27] <abchirk> hmm ok I install it :P thank you... :)
[18:29] <GeorgeA> How come when I do: echo ${APACHE_RUN_USER} - I get an empty result?
[18:29] <Decepticon> how does one do this to their desktop: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2488/screenshotkv3.jpg
[18:30] <mikric> hmm, so i have ubuntu server running virtually, and its apache server is running. now how can i view that servers root in my web browser natively? (not in the vm)
[18:30] <kitche> mikric: just go the the address of the web server by ip
[18:30] <Slart> mikric: isn't there some kind of networking bridge in virtualbox?
[18:31] <mikric> Slart: not sure, ill check it out.
[18:31] <Virus> hola lucax;)
[18:31] <mikric> Slart: hmm, well it has network adapters selection, and my ubuntu machine is set to 1
[18:31] <mikric> not sure what that is
[18:32] <dewente> someone could tell me if can get in to http://172.72.2.1/
[18:32] <geremy> ok, I've gotten somewhere, now my s video just flickers like mad
[18:32] <dewente> someone could tell me if can get onto http://172.72.2.1/
[18:33] <csilk> dewente, what?
[18:33] <lucax> dewente, i cant
[18:33] <mkartic> hey guys, is there a channel for the boost libraries?
[18:33] <Virus> dewente: is a local web
[18:33] <dewente> hey i am trying to get a public ip.. just my ip is the router
[18:33] <csilk> dewente, using http, i cant
[18:33] <Virus> only you can see
[18:34] <node357> mkartic, #boost
[18:34] <dewente> http://172.72.2.1/
[18:34] <Virus> dewente: is a localhost
[18:34] <dewente> wow ..
[18:34] <lucax> dewente, nothing dude
[18:35] <jangell> How do you restart the mysql server daemon on Ubuntu?
[18:35] <dewente> i want to change to a public ip
[18:35] <dewente> i can get in onto my router
[18:35] <ReAn> mother fucker, another hang @ 90% :(
[18:35] <LFibex> O.o
[18:35] <ReAn> stupid misleading progress bar
[18:36] <yabuk> how to use a Bematech printer on Ubuntu?
[18:36] <kitche> !language | ReAn
[18:37] <dewente> how can i get a public ip ?
[18:37] <kitche> jangell: /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart or something close to mysql-server
[18:37] <dewente> i have verizon fios
[18:37] <kitche> dewente: you don't unless you pay for it
[18:37] <erki> dewente: Do you mean public IP or private IP?
[18:37] <dewente> kitchen, you are kidding ...
[18:37] <Virus> obuttu: go to shit fucker mother bot
[18:37] <erki> dewente: sorry, let me rephrase that
[18:37] <dewente> erki, public ..
[18:38] <erki> dewente: Do you mean public IP or static IP?
[18:38] <dewente> i wan public
[18:38] <Virus> mmmh
[18:38] <kitche> dewente: nope your ISP gives you an IP though dhcp unless you pay for a static ip
[18:38] <Virus> and this bot doesnt reply
[18:38] <erki> dewente: Because you definately already have a public IP
[18:38] <Virus> obuttu: you are a fuckmother bot
[18:38] <shadowuser> any ideas when the new ubuntu will be released?
[18:38] <Virus> stupid
[18:38] <Virus> shit
[18:38] <dewente> erki, agree with you.. but i want make a web server
[18:38] <FloodBot2> Virus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <erki> dewente: Browse to http://www.showmyip.com/ to find your public IP
[18:38] <LFibex> the 30th shadowhywind
[18:39] <kitche> !ops | Virus
[18:39] <Virus> jajja
[18:39] <mikric> kitche: hmm, i dont know how to get the ip for my virtualbox system.
[18:39] <shadowhywind> erki huh?
[18:39] <erki> dewente: You probably have a router or something, and need to open ports.
[18:39] <Slart> mikric: hmm..are you running virtualbox? or vmware?
[18:39] <kitche> mikric: you can do ifconfig and it should show
[18:39] <geremy> mikric: use nat
[18:39] <dewente> erik, Port forwarding ?
[18:39] <mikric> alright, thanks
[18:39] <Virus> ;)
[18:39] <kiji> do you think linux will also be affected with malware when it's more used or is it not possible because of the system itself?
[18:39] <mikric> Slart: i am using virtualbox
[18:40] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, someone help me, why miro cannot download from youtube?
[18:40] <geremy> mikric: if you want to run a client from inside your vb instance, use nat. if you want to run a sever, you have to bridge it
[18:40] <erki> shadowhywind: Whaddyamean "huh"?
[18:40] <csilk> dewente, do you connect to the net via an adsl router or via a modem?
[18:40] <kitche> jussi01: thanks kinda hard to do support when he's just saying that to the bot sort of like spam :)
[18:40] <dewente> adsl
[18:40] <Slart> mikric: then there is either LAN or NAT for networking.. use NAT.. you might have to setup some kind of port forwarding but it's all explained in the manual
[18:40] <csilk> dewente, i said do you use and ADSL router, or a modem
[18:40] <erki> dewente: I guess port forwarding is correct, yes.
[18:40] <shadowhywind> erki: oh my mistake you weren't the one who sent me a message, it was LFibex
[18:41] <dewente> csilk, router
[18:41] <geremy> mikric: can you explain what you're trying to do
[18:41] <erki> shadowhywind: np
[18:41] <csilk> dewente,  ok, you need to your router config and open a port then tell apaches config file which port you opened
[18:41] <dewente> erki, or static ip ?
[18:42] <Guest31744> I followed http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Netbeans#Look-Feel-der-IDE-anpassen but i do not get another IDE in Xubuntu with netbeans_default_options="-J-client -J-Xss2m -J-Xms32m -J-XX:PermSize=32m -J-XX:MaxPermSize=200m -J-Xverify:none -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true -J-DuseGtk=true"
[18:42] <dewente> csilk, Port forwading ?
[18:42] <mikric> geremy: well, i setup ubuntu server on a virtualbox guest, and im using it for testing environment.. i got LAMP setup and everything, now im not sure how to access it in my browser natively
[18:42] <erki> dewente: If you want to host a serious web server, you probably want static ip, and that will most likely cost extra
[18:42] <csilk> dewente, rtn
[18:42] <csilk> **rtm
[18:42] <OxDeadC0de> anyone here know anything about development of totem plugins in python or a good room to ask question about it in would be? I'm working on the youtube plugin for totem, I need to make it call a function just before adding something to a playlist when you right click and add to playlist, how can I do this?
[18:42] <blip-> hi all,  i'm using a linux server that has apache2 installed,  ubuntu 8.04....  after deleting old website files and uploading new ones,  i still get the old website.  i have restarted apache2 with "apache2ctl graceful" as well as with the stop/start.     I'm still seeing the old site.  hell i tried accessing from a different machine.  what's happening ?    thanks
[18:42] <geremy> mikric: yeah, you need to enable bridging
[18:42] <geremy> mikric: do you have a copy of the virtualbox manual?
[18:42] <kitche> OxDeadC0de: why not ask in the totem room?
[18:42] <mikric> geremy: hmm, nope
[18:42] <erki> blip-: Are you sure you replaced files in the correct folder?
[18:42] <zicho> what is a good application to use to check wireless network availability and strength?
[18:42] <yanez68> Hello!
[18:42] <dewente> csilk, rtn ?
[18:42] <OxDeadC0de> didn't know there was one thank you ^^
[18:43] <kitche> blip-: you didn't delete the old site most likely
[18:43] <mongolai> OxDeadC0de:  ^^ what kitche said. I'm interested in your idea, though!
[18:43] <geremy> mikric: that's the best reference. let me track it down for you
[18:43] <erki> zicho: Kismet or wicd
[18:43] <zicho> i know theres a gnome daemon, but how do i run it if im not running gnome?
[18:43] <csilk> dewente, trm = read the manual
[18:43] <csilk> *RTM
[18:43] <shadowuser> Can you please tell me when the new ubuntu will be released?
[18:43] <geremy> mikric: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.0.4/UserManual.pdf
[18:43] <Aaqil> Hello help me how to install this on my ubuntu http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=83081&package_id=85382&release_id=538374
[18:43] <LFibex> shadowhywind i said the 30th of this month
[18:44] <mikric> Slart: its using network adapter 1. which is set toPCNet - Fast III (NAT)
[18:44] <Aaqil> LFibex: 30 launch date? that is late :(
[18:44] <Codedrunk_work> blip-, It sounds like you may be using another directory for your web files. What directory fo you have configured in httpd.conf?
[18:44] <shadowhywind> LFibex: i didn't ask any questions
[18:44] <mikric> thanks geremy
[18:44] <csilk> Aaqil, the README or INSTALL file you tell you how
[18:44] <LFibex> wrong shadow sorry :)
[18:44] <geremy> mikric: you want p.78, btw
[18:44] <csilk> *will tell you hopw
[18:44] <kitche> shadowuser: the 30th of this month but you could check #ubuntu+1 next time
[18:44] <shadowhywind> LFibex: hehe
[18:44] <blip-> erki, kitche:  it's a very simple site with 1 CSS and 3 htmls.  all in the directory /var/www/mysite  ....  i re-erased everything and reuploaded my new files twice,  i opened and checked the file contents with ssh vim and they are indeed the new ones... infact,  if i specify  URL/mysite/index.html i get the newsite but when i say URL/mysite/ i get the old one.
[18:44] <Virus> this is the last time
[18:44] <Virus> sorry
[18:44] <Virus> :(
[18:44] <Aaqil> csilk: i never handled .tar .tgz etc files in my ubuntu i dont know how to use them
[18:45] <Slart> mikric: sounds reasonable.. now go read the virtualbox manual on networking..I just skimmed past it so I can't really give you the details
[18:45] <Antoxa> hi
[18:45] <csilk> Aaqil,  they are just the same as .zip files, you need to extract them
[18:45] <Aaqil> csilk: oh ok i try
[18:45] <mongolai> OxDeadC0de:  come to thing of it, there doesn't seeem to be a totem channel :(
[18:45] <Aaqil> csilk: this is also like zip? linpopup-2.1.0.tar.bz2
[18:45] <blip-> Codedrunk_work:  do you know where this file is on ubuntu so i can check  ?   Ubuntu 8.04
[18:45] <Antoxa> zdes' est' rus?
[18:45] <erki> blip-: httpd.conf might have some strange directory entries for that folder, you might want to check itt.
[18:45] <csilk> Aaqil, yes
[18:46] <axel> i want to open a book .chm  on linux ubuntu but i can't , i try this with pdf viewer but i can't open it?
[18:46] <shadowuser> kitche, Thanks! I'll check that.
[18:46] <geremy> axel: gnochm
[18:46] <ay^> axel try gnochm
[18:46] <Mecha25> ok, dvd playback issues, anyone know why my DVD's simply error out and stop playing at random points, but always the same point each time, using VLC?
[18:47] <CJMCKEE> I have a USB adapter that plugs into my PC Card slot bc my USB ports dont work anymore. But Ubuntu doesnt recognize it...can anyone help?
[18:47] <Codedrunk_work> blip-, It should be /etc/httpd/httpd.conf. This is the main config file for Apache.
[18:47] <blip-> erki, Codedrunk_work: i think you are refering to "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" right ?  Because httpd is on Fedora,CentOS only according to apache2 docs
[18:47] <rup_deb> hi
[18:47] <Aaqil> csilk: after extract i got so many files i dont know what to do them.. someone told me they need to be compiled etc
[18:48] <ay^> Aaqil: they probably do
[18:48] <ay^> Aaqil: try to find a file called "INSTALL" och "README"
[18:48] <ay^> and read them/it
[18:48] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> kkkkkk
[18:48] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hi people
[18:48] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> how are you?
[18:49] <thymythos> /help
[18:49] <OxDeadC0de> Found the totem channel on irc.gnome.org :)
[18:49] <erki> blip-: You're probably correct, I've only administered apache on windows *ashamed*
[18:50] <csilk> Aaqil, yes you need to compile then install them, please read the INSTALL or README file
[18:50] <lucax> small question, using ekiga sip means ip address of computer im trying to connect to?
[18:50] <l0p3z> hi, why the last stable release of ubuntu (8.10) don't will be a LTS?
[18:50] <Aaqil> csilk: reading
[18:50] <dewente> in this case i have to work with www.noip.com
[18:50] <RolfCoptr> *shrug*
[18:50] <wirelessdreamer> has anyone here tried the eliza package under intrepid?
[18:51] <Meeso_OS> do you have to have some sort of 'license' to build your own ubuntu based distro?
[18:51] <MC8> 1376!!!
[18:51] <RolfCoptr> ich überleg gerad wie ich das temporär loes
[18:51] <RolfCoptr> ww
[18:51] <Meeso_OS> and realease it
[18:51] <csilk> dewente, first thing you need to do is forward a port
[18:51] <lucax> !ekiga
[18:51] <DarK`> Hey all. Im having troubles with Firefox. It works like a charm...except that there is no title-bar on top. So I dont see any close or minimise button. What could be wrong?
[18:51] <saml> !postfix
[18:51] <Aaqil> csilk: what to do with this line `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type:
[18:51] <Aaqil> % make
[18:51] <eth01> (not gmake)
[18:51] <l0p3z> noone known how
[18:51] <dewente> csilk, look my server has a ip
[18:51] <csilk> Aaqil, have you ever used the terminal before?
[18:51] <mikric> geremy: so, i did what it said. but it doesnt tell me how to access it still. do i just need to go to localhost in my browser?
[18:52] <mongolai> DarK`:  do other windows have the title bars, etc?
[18:52] <apw> i just updated my system to intrepid using update-manager -d, and now update-manager says bad things "not all updates can be install"
[18:52] <DarK`> mongolai: yes, all other windows are fine.
[18:52] <apw> anyone seen that?
[18:52] <Aaqil> csilk: yes
[18:52] <csilk> dewente,  yes, of course it has an ip, that isn't the issue, the issue is you have no port open so connections outside of your LAN cannot be made
[18:52] <kitche> apw: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid support
[18:52] <erki> !intrepid | apw
[18:52] <geremy> mikric: yep
[18:52] <apw> ok
[18:52] <dewente> csilk, great let me see that
[18:52] <Aaqil> csilk: i placed those files in a folder named download at my desktop what my cd address will be?
[18:52] <mongolai> DarK`:  did you enable "kiosk" mode (ie, fullscreen) in firefox by hitting f11?
[18:53] <ay^> Aaqil: cd to the dir where you just extracted the file/s
[18:53] <dewente> csilk, port 80 for http .. and that;s it
[18:53] <ay^> and type make
[18:53] <l0p3z> why the last stable release of ubuntu (8.10) don't will be a LTS?
[18:53] <crawford> wow.. this is a huge room... hello all...
[18:53] <DarK`> mongolai: I already tried that. It works fine until I restart Firefox, then its full screen again without a title-bar
[18:53] <Aaqil> ay^: that is my desktop what will be address?
[18:53] <mongolai> l0p3z:  because hardy was
[18:53] <mikric> geremy: hmm, well the manual doesnt say anything else. so im not sure why its not working.
[18:53] <badfish69> what's the interapplication communication program called?
[18:53] <eth01> crawford: Don't act so niave.
[18:53] <badfish69> i think it starts with a D
[18:53] <erki> l0p3z: 8.04 was LTS. The next LTS is probably 9.10
[18:53] <l0p3z> mongolai, only 1 relase in a year?
[18:53] <eth01> naive, even
[18:54] <ay^> Aaqil: then do "cd ~/Desktop/nameoffolderwherefilesare
[18:54] <ay^> oops not the "
[18:54] <mongolai> DarK`:  ok, 2 last things: did you install a firefox theme, and is compiz enabled?
[18:54] <crawford> c'mon.. it's my first time in here.. I knew it would be active but I'm just impressed.. c'mon...
[18:54] <shamshel> hi guys, can anyone point me where I can ask some gtk programming questions?
[18:54] <DarK`> mongolai: no, I have the default firefox theme and Compiz is disabled
[18:54] <mariussss> hi guys, I have a "special" problem with Internet sharing... can anyone help?
[18:54] <quibbler> crawford:wellcome
[18:54] <crawford> eth01 thanks for the greeting my friend and hello quibbler
[18:54] <geremy> mikric: if you'll give me a minute I'll take a look at what's going on
[18:55] <mongolai> l0p3z:  No, there are usually 2 release cycles per year, but LTS is less common. Hardy is the current LTS and will be so for a while.
[18:55] <Cyde> I was trying to upgrade to 8.10 today, but on the list of packages it was going to remove was most of KDE4.  That doesn't sound good, seeing as how I use KDE 4.1 as my desktop.
[18:55] <T_Davis> is there any way to disable the floppy from within ubuntu, I dont have the option to do so in bios
[18:55] <l0p3z> mongolai, ok, thanks
[18:55] <erki> DarK`: Are you running regular Ubuntu or Ubuntu Mobile Edition (or netbook remix)?
[18:55] <benanzo> anyone use enigmail?  How do I get it to attach my signature.asc rather than send the sig inline?
[18:55] <Pirate_Hunter> T_Davis: just remove it from fstab?
[18:55] <mikric> geremy: thanks. im trying some other stuff right now. i think i might know what it is.
[18:55] <mongolai> DarK`:  that's weird, Those were all the usual suspects that I can think of...
[18:55] <Scunizi> How do I create a launcher to open a directory? I've right clicked the desktop, create launcher, Type=location, name= <something>, Location = /home/<uname>/<directory> and I've tried .. nautilus /home/<uname>/<directory> and nothing seems to work. any suggestions?
[18:55] <saml> which package has mail command?
[18:55] <dewente> how can install gnome to ubuntu server ?
[18:55] <filth_> Cyde: they are probably going to be updated. are these packages to be removed 4.1?
[18:55] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find my serial number for my motherboard
[18:56] <benanzo> saml mailx
[18:56] <Pirate_Hunter> T_Davis: ignore question mark
[18:56] <saml> i want to check my emails arriving to my server
[18:56] <DarK`> erki: Ubuntu, normal version
[18:56] <RolfCoptr> saml: "mailx"
[18:56] <Cyde> filth_: Yeah, there's a big list of 80 packages that are going to be removed and most of them are kde4.
[18:56] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find my serial number for my motherboard
[18:56] <DarK`> mongolai: thanks anyways :)
[18:56] <saml> benanzo, RolfCoptr thanks
[18:56] <mongolai> DarK`:  is there a menu-bar, and just no title-bar (buttons, etc)?
[18:56] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find my serial number for my motherboard
[18:56] <Scunizi> randal: on the boot screen
[18:56] <mariussss> Scunizi: type file:///home/yourusername
[18:56] <erki> randal: Open the case up and search for it. The serial number should be unique for your motherboard.
[18:56] <T_Davis> Pirate_Hunter: here is the rub, on installation partitioning it hangs at 33% and lights the floppy light
[18:56] <DarK`> there is a menubar, thereis a navigation bar, just no title-bar
[18:56] <Aaqil> i will come back later, thanks csilk ay^ :)
[18:56] <ReAn> ok, so on a basic 100% minimal install of ubuntu, i want to install xorg & xfce, do i apt-get xorg   ??
[18:56] <ay^> randal: look at the motherboard, might be there
[18:56] <crawford> cyde are you sure you were using the kubuntu desktop upgrade option
[18:56] <mongolai> DarK`:  what version of FF is it?
[18:56] <Cyde> I want Ubuntu 8.10 as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to trash my entire desktop environment to do so.
[18:56] <filth_> Cyde: well, aren't they being updated?
[18:56] <randal> OK THANK
[18:57] <Scunizi> mariussss: thanks.. for someone coming into ubuntu cold this isn't intuitive..
[18:57] <DarK`> mongolai: 3.0.3
[18:57] <T_Davis> rean: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg xdm
[18:57] <redheat> hi everyone
[18:57] <filth_> Cyde: :)
[18:57] <ReAn> T_Davis: xdm?
[18:57] <mariussss> Scunizi: I know :)
[18:57] <Cyde> crawford: I'm running Ubuntu though, not Kubuntu.  I just pulled in the KDE4.1 packages from the repository.  Should I be using a Kubuntu upgrade option?
[18:57] <Pirate_Hunter> T_Davis: disconnet the floppy cable from inside your pc, but if that is happening it could be a problem with the disk but i aint certain
[18:57] <T_Davis> the x display manager, you could use gdm or kdm
[18:57] <filth_> Cyde: 4.1 is probably not in the intrepid main, but probably in another repository, i don't run KDE so I don't know which one it's on.
[18:57] <mikric> geremy: hmm, nope. i cant figure it out. i did exactly what the manual said.. (im on mac osx host)
[18:57] <ReAn> i want xfce, not gnome or kde
[18:57] <mongolai> DarK`:  Hmmm. Seems fine over here. Did it work prior to upgrading, or did you start with this version?
[18:57] <filth_> Cyde: yes, you probably should find kubuntu an easy switch.
[18:57] <ReAn> so xdm is what i want?
[18:58] <T_Davis> Pirate_Hunter: this is a thinkpad, I cringe at the idea of opening it
[18:58] <mariussss> Is anyone here expert in networking? :) Raise your hand
[18:58] <T_Davis> rean: then use xdm
[18:58] <DarK`> mongolai: it always worked fine untill a few days ago
[18:58] <Guest24783> failing internet... anyway; where can I ask some questions about GTK+ programming?
[18:58] <crawford> cyde if you aren't using gnome any longer go ahead and just go with kubuntu
[18:58] <SchneeSchwarz> !ask | mariussss
[18:58] <geremy> mikric: ok, whats your bridged interface?
[18:58] <saml> do I need to instal some other stuff? I installed postfix and mailx  and sent an email to my server. i don't recieve it
[18:58] <Cyde> crawford: Last I heard Kubuntu didn't have support as good as Ubuntu?
[18:58] <SchneeSchwarz> !anyone | mariussss
[18:58] <Cernex> problem: my sound configuration is messed up. For some reason, youtube is blocking VLC's sound
[18:59] <redheat> folks, I just need help with a little problem..my usb wireless adapter, which uses a rt73usb, a ralink chipset, won't connect to my wireless network, the card has its driver installed and working properly but it won't connect to my wireless network, I would be thankful if anyone could help me with that problem.
[18:59] <mongolai> DarK`:  I mean, did you upgrade a few days ago, like as a "System update" sort of deal, perhaps? This might be an issue with that particular version of FF on some systems
[18:59] <Cernex> And even with youtube closed, VLC refuses to play with sound
[18:59] <mikric> geremy: its using en1 (airport)
[18:59] <erki> redheat: In what way is it "working properly"?
[18:59] <T_Davis> !wireless | redheat
[18:59] <DarK`> mongolai: I apply updates every time there is something new according to apt
[18:59] <klyick> anyone familar with amanda, the backup system?
[18:59] <DarK`> im trying to remove firefox and switch back to 2.X. Is that possible?
[18:59] <geremy> mikric: please pastbin your interfaces file
[18:59] <Pirate_Hunter> T_Davis: i may not be the right person to help you than you could ask your question again and someone should help you
[19:00] <crawford> cyde that shouldn't really be that big of a issue.. xfce, kde, enlightenment all work about the same
[19:00] <Cernex> I didn't moved anything involving the sound thing, reason why I'm so clueless
[19:00] <redheat> I mean i ran iwconfig, and iwlist scan, and it properly saw my networks ,and it has all its data properly displayed..erki..
[19:00] <Cernex> It played nice in Feisty and Gutsy, but now that I'm on hardy, I can't get it to play sound correctly
[19:00] <mikric> geremy: sorry, im not sure where it is.
[19:00] <T_Davis> redheat: using wpa?
[19:00] <erki> redheat: What sort of encryption does your wlan use?
[19:00] <redheat> I just did like they recommended over here in opensuse http://forums.opensuse.org/network-internet/wireless/391535-my-wireless-doesnt-work-primer-what-i-should-do-next.html
[19:00] <redheat> yes T_Davis
[19:00] <mongolai> DarK`:  it looks like at least one other person has the same issue, unless you also go by Jordy82: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=el&comments_parentId=179367&forumId=1
[19:00] <T_Davis> redheat: there are issues check the wifidocs
[19:01] <redheat> where?
[19:01] <DarK`> mongolai: that's someone else :) thanks for the link
[19:01] <geremy> mikric: from the manual- /etc/network/interfaces
[19:01] <relaciones> i need help
[19:01] <redheat> T_Davis, where if you please?
[19:01] <erki> !ask | relaciones
[19:01] <ay^> relaciones: don't we all
[19:01] <T_Davis> relaciones: state the nature of your medical emergency
[19:01] <klyick> the amanda backup system? anyone?
[19:01] <RolfCoptr> sauber
[19:01] <RolfCoptr> ww
[19:01] <mongolai> DarK`:  I'll try to help you fix if you have some time, but you should file a bug report nonetheless
[19:01] <T_Davis> !wireless | redheat
[19:01] <mikric> geremy: on the guest OS?
[19:01] <relaciones> how i install msn in ubuntus
[19:01] <erki> !anyone | klyick
[19:02] <DarK`> mongolai: I will
[19:02] <Dude> is there a way to make the NVIDIA driver work on interpid?
[19:02] <erki> !intrepid | Dude
[19:02] <geremy> mikric: on the host
[19:02] <LjL> klyick: Amanda has a channel on this network at #amanda
[19:02] <mikric> geremy: yea, i dont have that
[19:02] <klyick> very well
[19:02] <blip-> erki: i checked the apache2 config file, there are some other directories defined in there for other websites, but nothing relating to my directory at all.  this is driving me crazy,  it took me 1 hour to make the site.  and now 2 hours and counting and i can't get it to show up on the server.  do you have any other recommendations please ?
[19:02] <ay^> relaciones:either enjoy pidgin, install AMSN or perhaps wine+msn could work
[19:02] <tttt33> anybody using pkgsrc on 8.04(x86)??
[19:02] <redheat> thank you T_Davis, you too erki, thanks for the help
[19:02] <T_Davis> !pidgin | relaciones
[19:02] <mikric> geremy: there is no network directory in /etc/
[19:02] <mariussss> Does anyone know how to setup something like this (and if it is possible, of course): Internet cable goes into PC (eth0); from eth1 a cable goes into an Wireless router; the Wireless router gives Internet to other wireless devices. I don't want to setup the regular Internet -> Wireless router -> PC/other wifi devices because the PC has slow bandwith through the Wireless router. Is is possible to share the connection to a Wireless router? If it is, please 
[19:03] <geremy> mikric: as the manual specifies, you must have that on your host in order for it to work
[19:03] <Cernex> Help. My VLC is not playing with sound at all
[19:03] <Cernex> Even youtube plays with sound
[19:03] <dewente> why when i restart the server ubuntu .. stop
[19:03] <Cernex> And not VLC
[19:03] <LjL> mariussss: completely possible
[19:03] <Cernex> I don't get it
[19:03] <erki> blip-: Oh, are you sure it's not your browser showing you old files? Try pressing ctrl+f5
[19:03] <LjL> !netsharing | mariussss
[19:03] <geremy> mikric: page 81 step 2
[19:03] <LjL> mariussss: but i remember the factoid name wrong. moment.
[19:03] <klyick> My issue is that amrecover, part of the amanda suite, is throwing a "Connection refused" when I attempt to run amrecover on the client. I'm using bsdtcp auth.
[19:03] <Dude> how can i install the NVIDIA driver on intrepid?
[19:03] <LjL> !inetsharing | mariussss
[19:03] <erki> !intrepid | Dude
[19:03] <relaciones> i try but i don`t know why  my computer is not accept that program
[19:04] <LjL> Dude, you aren't listening at all, are you?
[19:04] <mongolai> mariussss:  totally doable, and I'll let you thing of the possible implications if you also use wireshark...
[19:04] <blip-> erki: yes i deleted all the chache and restarted ff3.  i even loaded from a different machine :)       Someone mentioned /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  to me but it also doesn't seem to have any pointer to /var/www/mysite/
[19:04] <LordDicranius> I'm in the process of switching from Red Hat box to an Ubuntu box.  on the RH box I'm using /etc/rc.local to run certain scripts, etc at bootup.  Is /etc/rc.local used in ubuntu the same way?
[19:04] <blip-> *cache
[19:04] <mikric> geremy: yes, thats for debian and ubuntu hosts..
[19:04] <erki> blip-: That's just ... wierd...
[19:04] <ArkoldThos> heya people, i used to have a nvidia card, but now i dont and i want to use mine intel integrated graphics, but when I try to reconfigure xserver-xorg it doesn't ask for drivers and stuff
[19:04] <geremy> mikric: correct. you are on ubuntu, yes?
[19:04] <mikric> geremy: im on mac osx (10.5.5)
[19:04] <T_Davis> LordDicranius: yes
[19:05] <relaciones> yes
[19:05] <LjL> mariussss: you can follow the DHCP instructions if your router expects DHCP, otherwise you might also just set it up statically - up to you
[19:05] <geremy> mikric: that changes things
[19:05] <ArkoldThos> im on intrepid, anyone know how to do this? since the default xorg.conf is very basic
[19:05] <mikric> i though i mentioned that earlier
[19:05] <haqe43> What software is available for linux that I could use to create a slideshow music video?
[19:05] <Pici> ArkoldThos: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[19:05] <geremy> mikric: I might not have been here for that part
[19:05] <mikric> ah k
[19:05] <LordDicranius> T_Davis: awesome, thx :)
[19:05] <ay^> !intrepid | ArkoldThos
[19:05] <erki> blip-: And there are no other files called index.something in the folder?
[19:05] <ArkoldThos> Pici: having this problem since the current
[19:05] <mikric> well, i did the instructions for the mac osx part.
[19:05] <dewente> what is the best option for install a server in pentium 3 .. software sever
[19:05] <tapas> hi, how do i disable pulseaudio?
[19:05] <mikric> there were only 2 things i needed to apply in the settings dialogue.
[19:05] <T_Davis> dewente: try proftpd
[19:05] <Pici> ArkoldThos: But you're running 8.10 now and that uses a different xorg version and support is in #ubuntu+1 until it is released.
[19:06] <blip-> erki: no :(
[19:06] <ArkoldThos> oh, thanks :)
[19:06] <geremy> mikric: I won't lie to you- I've put together some pretty huge farms with vbox on linux, but I can't even get "hello, world" to work on os x
[19:06] <mahrellon> Hi, is there a way to exclude wine from compiz/desktop fx? I have a program that I need to run wine but the menus in that program turns up garbled if I have compiz activated so I'm looking for an alternative fix instead of having to turn of Compiz every time. :)
[19:06] <blip-> erki: omg wait.  there are backup files. ie index.html~
[19:06] <blip-> oh crap lemme check
[19:06] <mahrellon> *run in wine
[19:06] <mikric> geremy: are you serious? baah
[19:06] <geremy> mikric: you're probably better off talking to the folks in the vbox irc
[19:06] <mikric> this is why i miss linux on my desktop.
[19:06] <dewente> pentium 3 for server ?
[19:07] <mikric> i just tested everything natively
[19:07] <T_Davis> sure, work good, last long time
[19:07] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, is there a tool to make wbs charts?
[19:07] <geremy> mikric: then install it ;)
[19:07] <haqe43> ok, so is there any software for creating slideshow music videos?
[19:07] <T_Davis> dewente: an ftp server isnt that cpu taxing, if you dont install x
[19:07] <zimbres> is the term "batch mode" used for terminals that are not running X server?
[19:07] <tttt33> anybody using pkgsrc on 8.04(x86)?? and i couldn"t so help me!!
[19:07] <mahrellon> haqe43; I'm not if this program might do the trick but it's worth a try. It's called Avidemux
[19:07] <geremy> zimbres: not generally
[19:08] <dewente> T_Davis, i want to use apache in it
[19:08] <mariussss> LjL: thanks, I'll give it a try right now... I don't know if the router expects DHCP... but I know that it gives DHCP to the wireless devices
[19:08] <kitche> tttt33: umm why not ask the pkgsrc channel since Ubuntu doesn't even deal with pkgsrc
[19:08] <blip-> erki: no effect. i feel like nuking apache completely and reinstalling.
[19:08] <zimbres> geremy, What in general?
[19:08] <erki> mahrellon: I have a non-solution, install compiz-fusion-icon which makes it easier to turn of compiz :)
[19:08] <relaciones> what can i do???'
[19:08] <tttt33> kitche ok. i understood. thanks.
[19:08] <T_Davis> mariussss: set a static for the router, leave dhcp for clients
[19:08] <LjL> tttt33: pkgsrc...? isn't that a BSD package manager?
[19:08] <rga24|CS-50> are the X11 development libraries installed in an ubuntu desktop?
[19:09] <erki> blip-: That sucks. It seems really wierd, and sounds like it must be because something is stuck in a cache somewhere, but where?
[19:09] <mahrellon> erki: Thanks, but I've already tried that. I mean sure it's not a big deal but it's one of those small problems keeping me up at night lol
[19:09] <geremy> zimbres: no- servers without X are just called servers, or, if they don't have a monitor, headless
[19:09] <mongolai> rga24|CS-50:  the devel libraries are not usually installed by default
[19:09] <kitche> LjL: yes and no it's a linux package manager as well :)
[19:09] <shiiizooon> The newest kernel version (2.6.27.7) of Ubuntu 8.10, crashed the "wl" driver for BCM4312??
[19:09] <dewente> T_Davis, i wan to make a public ip not use my ip router
[19:09] <rga24|CS-50> mongolai, what should I install?
[19:09] <LjL> kitche: one of the several Extremely Bad Ideas to use on ubuntu, i'd assume
[19:09] <chetnick> is there any good tutorial on how to setup sound card in ubuntu. I have a problem. When i play videos with my speakers pluged in the sound card it works fine. But for music and youtube, i have to switch to my integrated realtek sound card. And when i try to play videos with integrated sound card, there is no sound. Any ideas how to setup this?
[19:09] <mongolai> rga24|CS-50:  that really depends. What are you trying to do, exactly?
[19:10] <erki> mahrellon: I hear you, I have a similar problem, all fullscreen apps instacrash in compiz on my comp :)
[19:10] <T_Davis> dewente: you have a couple of choices then, get a static ip from your provider or use something like dyndns
[19:10] <rga24|CS-50> i'm trying to develop some stuff using clutter
[19:10] <mariussss> mongolai: what implications?
[19:10] <mongolai> chetnick:  you might have some kind of conflict with pulseaudio...
[19:10] <dewente> T_Davis, like no-ip ?
[19:10] <mahrellon> erki: Oh I've been there m8. I had the same problem when I was on Ubuntu x86. Works like a charm in Ubuntu AMD64 though lol
[19:10] <rga24|CS-50> so at the moment i'll i'm trying to do is get the autoconf script in clutter to complete
[19:10] <blip-> erki: actually yes i believe something is stuck in apache cache...i checked out the log files and when i access the site,  the CSS fails to reference some image files which aren't there... this means it's still using the old CSS not my new one.  anyway i've taken enough of your time. thank you for all the input :)
[19:11] <T_Davis> dewente: I find most routers nowadays use dyndns box stock
[19:11] <chetnick> mongolai: do you know how to resolve that? where to look?
[19:11] <mahrellon> erki: Anyhow m8. I'll go see if I can make something good out of Window rules...Hope you have better luck with them fullscreen apps :)
[19:11] <zimbres> geremy, Does my question "makes" sense? "What irc client could i use in batch mode" I mean, with no GUI.
[19:11] <mariussss> T_Davis: I did setup a static IP in /etc/networking/interface (10.10.1.1), but I still can't access the Wireless router's web configuration page (which is 192.168.1.1)
[19:11] <ay^> zimbres: irssi
[19:11] <erki> mahrellon: thanks :)
[19:11] <mongolai> mariussss:  your computer would be the default gateway for the WAP. if you ran wireshark or tcpdump you could sniff all the wireless traccis very easily ;)
[19:11] <mahrellon> erki: See ya later. :)
[19:11] <relaciones> veronica
[19:11] <mongolai> *packets
[19:11] <erki> blip-: np, sorry I couldn't be of any help. Feel free to share the solution if/when you find one!
[19:11] <zimbres> ay^, thanks
[19:11] <histo> zimbres: there are many but I recomand irssi
[19:11] <Cernex> Question: VLC is now playing with sound, but I had to completely close Firefox for it to do that. I don't get it
[19:12] <mongolai> chetnick:  I'm not really sure. It sounds like you have 2 soundcards?
[19:12] <T_Davis> mariussss: you need to be on the same net, set your /etc/network/interfaces to 192.168.1.201 and try it
[19:12] <Cernex> What's wrong with my sound configuration?
[19:12] <histo> zimbres: you can join #irssi if you ever need help with it as well.
[19:12] <ay^> zimbres: for web-browser I use eliinks btw :)
[19:12] <erki> Cernex: I have the same problem, only one app can play sound, whichever one started first.
[19:12] <Cernex> A, I stuck with only one audio channel for random reasons?
[19:12] <histo> zimbres: plus int he client /help will give you info. or /help <command>
[19:12] <erki> Cernex: I was just about to test something, w8
[19:12] <chetnick> mongolai: i have one HT omega striker, and i have the one that comes with motherboard.
[19:12] <relaciones> erki: can u help me....please
[19:13] <mariussss> mongolai: I see... thanks :) I don't think this is my case, as I only want to give Internet to a Playstation 3 device once in a while :)
[19:13] <unohu62> hello
[19:13] <geremy> zimbres: yes, and you can use irssi
[19:13] <dewente> T_Davis, what is the name of this opcion. port fowarding, static nat
[19:13] <geremy> zimbres: but it isnt called batch mode on linux
[19:13] <NemesisD> anyone know how to configure fstab to auto-mount drives based on UUIDs rather than device path? im using mdadm now and that causes my ntfs drive device path to jump around quite a bit
[19:13] <blip-> erki:  i just verified it... i put the files in a different location /var/www/mysite2  and now everything works fine :)      So i'll stick with this until i figure out how to flush the old stuff from /var/www/mysite.     thanks again.  take care
[19:13] <T_Davis> dewente: look for a DDNS option
[19:13] <mongolai> mariussss:  I was really referring to nosy neighbors piggybacking on your wireless :)
[19:13] <erki> blip-: Good on you mate!
[19:14] <zimbres> geremy, I just wanted to make sure i would ask it right.
[19:14] <erki> Cernex: I switched everything in prefernces:sound:sounds from "auto" to "pulseaudio". That might or might not have been a good idea, but I can have more than one app playing sounds now ;)
[19:14] <cristobalcolon> is it possible to use ekiga to call msn users?
[19:14] <dewente> T_Davis, i have two.  dynamic dns and dns server
[19:15] <Fougner> NemesisD, I think I can help you
[19:15] <Cyde> Hehehe ... I love FIOS. 20 minutes to download the 2129 updated packages in 8.10.
[19:15] <NemesisD> Fougner, ok cool
[19:15] <Cyde> I'm amazed Ubuntu's servers can sustain this speed on the first day of release.
[19:15] <Fougner> sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdXX
[19:15] <T_Davis> dewente: dynamic dns, but first go to dyndns.org and register a name, then port forward ftp to your static ip in your ubuntu box
[19:15] <Fougner> NemesisD, PM?
[19:15] <NemesisD> there's a release?
[19:15] <NemesisD> Fougner, sure
[19:16] <CelticLord> j file pluche!!
[19:16] <T_Davis> then put in the proper info in dynamic dns and youre golden
[19:16] <cristobalcolon> how can i use ekiga to call msn messenger?
[19:16] <hemant> Hi, Any users of file-browser-applet?
[19:16] <erki> cristobalcolon: I'm guessing you can't
[19:17] <ph4mp573r> cristobalcolon: do you know about aMSN?
[19:17] <sambagirl> i doint understand sudo nano
[19:17] <sambagirl> but it worked :)
[19:17] <erki> cristobalcolon: In fact I don't know any app except MSN Messenger that can call MSN Messenger. Proprietary protocol and all that.
[19:17] <sambagirl> who is nano?
[19:17] <T_Davis> !nano
[19:17] <erki> sambagirl: nano is a text editor
[19:17] <mx> Hi all !
[19:17] <sambagirl> ohh
[19:17] <mongolai> sambagirl:  that was like 2 hours ago!!
[19:17] <sambagirl> so you give nano sudo is that it?
[19:17] <mx> sorry bad my english
[19:17] <Cernex> erki: Didn't worked for me
[19:18] <mx> I no create samba admins in fds
[19:18] <sambagirl> now that makes sense
[19:18] <sambagirl> i was using pico
[19:18] <T_Davis> sambagirl: yes, thats running nano as root
[19:18] <mx> help
[19:18] <erki> Cernex: That sux. Maybe try something other than pulseaudio?
[19:18] <cristobalcolon> ph4mp573r, they have video support but not sound
[19:18] <mx> users and machine - no problems - all works, admins - no :(
[19:18] <sambagirl> usted habla espanol?
[19:18] <joaopinto> !es | sambagirl
[19:19] <sambagirl> ok
[19:19] <sambagirl> makes sense
[19:19] <erki> !samba
[19:19] <ph4mp573r> cristobalcolon: k, really I think your only mainstream cross-platform option is Skype.
[19:19] <hemant> again,, any users of file-browser-applet for gnome-panel?
[19:19] <sambagirl> so whenver you want to use a product you just sudo <product>
[19:20] <Cernex> erki, well, maybe changing the device from ALSA to Pulseaudio might do the trick?
[19:20] <sambagirl> clever
[19:20] <Cernex> erki, or rebooting the system, even
[19:20] <sambagirl> so where is root and how do i get t oroot?
[19:20] <mongolai> sambagirl:  we use sudo to get root permissions for text-based applications -- those that are run from the terminal. If you wanted to use a GUI app, like gedit, you would use gksudo.
[19:20] <sambagirl> as root
[19:20] <erki> Cernex: I didn't need to reboot, just changing to pulseaudio worked.
[19:20] <compton> how would I script this: while ping host.com; if ping reply beep
[19:20] <ph4mp573r> anyone have a Dell Inspiron 530?
[19:20] <erki> Cernex: Or maybe I did reboot.. Man, I'm getting senile...
[19:20] <cristobalcolon> i read that if u do sip:usernam_at_hotmail.com@msn.gtalk2voip.com you can call msn users via ekiga, can someone check?
[19:21] <Cernex> erki, and what do you have as your sound devive? ALSA or Pulse?
[19:21] <erki> Cernex: pulseaudio all the way
[19:21] <mongolai> sambagirl:  correct. "sudo nano" starts nano as root. "gksudo gedit" starts gedit as root
[19:21] <chillout25m> hi. I just upgraded from hardy to ibex. I get an error regarding Bad Key when I update the packages. How will I get a new key?
[19:21] <Tundrayeti312> !intrepid > chillout25m
[19:22] <cristobalcolon> yes guys user_at_hotmail@msn.gtalk2voip.com does the trick... u can call msn users via ekiga
[19:22] <quibbler> sambagirl:read this  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[19:22] <cristobalcolon> yes guys user_at_hotmail.com@msn.gtalk2voip.com does the trick... u can call msn users via ekiga
[19:22] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[19:22] <shiiizooon> The newest kernel version (2.6.27.7) of Ubuntu 8.10, crashed the "wl" driver for BCM4312??
[19:23] <erki> !intrepid | shiiizooon
[19:23] <Cernex> erki, still can't remember if you rebooted?
[19:23] <erki> Cernex: I'm pretty sure I didn't
[19:24] <kitche> shiiizooon: b43 is used now I do believe
[19:24] <BanishedAngel> Can anyone help me get Java installed?
[19:25] <erki> !java
[19:25] <BanishedAngel> thank you
[19:26] <ArkoldThos>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[19:27] <tesseract85> has anyone used a line 6 pod x3 with ubuntu?
[19:27] <Decepticon> how do i get a launcher to my home dir on the desktop ?
[19:28] <mongolai> tesseract85:  is that one of the usb models?
[19:28] <tesseract85> yes, its a guitar audio interface that models guitar effects
[19:28] <tesseract85> it uses usb 2.0
[19:30] <dany_21a_> tesseract85: go to a console and enter "lsusb"
[19:30] <tesseract85> i cannot at this time, i will have to tonight, right now i am on my windows box at work
[19:30] <dany_21a_> tesseract85 than google for the usb id of your device (in the format 1234:abcd)
[19:30] <tesseract85> oh, i got ya... i will do that tonight! thanks!
[19:30] <Ben> hi guys!
[19:31] <dany_21a_> tesseract85: okay, np
[19:31] <mongolai> tesseract85:  I hope you get it squared. I thought about getting a line 6 a few years ago, but went with a Vox tonelab instead...
[19:31] <Ben> anyone know if it's possible to host windows games like cousterstrike 1.5 and starcraft on ubuntu server ed?
[19:32] <erki> Ben: Counterstrike should work, google HLDS
[19:32] <mbassan> Decepticon: Just right clickk on the background of the desktop and select 'launcher' from the menu... then select the type 'location', then click browse and click on the home folder
[19:32] <tesseract85> if you want to message me later tonight and see if i got it figured out let me know... aim: tesseract85 or yahoo tesseract85
[19:32] <quibbler> Decepticon: right click on Desktop -create launcher-command is nautilus
[19:33] <JakeMon> how do i change the default directory where home directories are created from /home to /vol?
[19:33] <mbassan> hi, does anybody know how to enable switching the keyboard language graphically inside an account?
[19:34] <sani__> Need help with using MySQL server, can't get it work online / home LAN
[19:34] <GleepGlop> emerald will not start, trying  emerald --replace
[19:35] <mongolai> JakeMon:  like for when you add new users?
[19:35] <saml> is there a tutorial on how to setup a mail server? starting from DNS configuration
[19:35] <saml> !mail
[19:35] <dany_21a_> sani__: you need to set the listen-interface accroding, check /etc/mysql/my.cnf and search for 127.0.0.1
[19:35] <JackZD8K> is there an xserver-xgl package that will run on 8.10 ?
[19:36] <JakeMon> mongolai: yes
[19:36] <nmh-j2graw> saml: do you know what server you want? what you want it to do?
[19:36] <Dan_swede> test
[19:36] <saml> nmh-j2graw, i want to recieve mail and send mail. i have port 25 open. but no MX record on DNS. i sent test emails to my domain.. but it's not arriving
[19:36] <favro> Dan_swede: fail
[19:37] <ReAn> hrm, k, minimalistic ubuntu, i installed xserver-xorg, xorg, and xdm, so now when i load x i have a nice little x-based console
[19:37] <nmh-j2graw> saml: does the server seem to work if you telnet to it (on port 25?)
[19:37] <saml> nmh-j2graw, yes it responds. i didn't send it through telnet though. let me try
[19:38] <Hamsun> anyone got lag?
[19:38] <Hamsun> like, major lag
[19:38] <mongolai> JakeMon:  I've done this before on a non-debian system before. Lemme see if I can figure out how ubuntu/debian does it...
[19:38] <nmh-j2graw> saml: what are you doing for dns?
[19:38] <saml> nmh-j2graw, i wasn't sure if i should have MX entry in my DNS or not
[19:38] <nmh-j2graw> saml: yes
[19:39] <elhoir|wrk> hello, im using 8.04, i have installed an usb wireless adapter in my pc and ubuntu crashes so often. Do u think it will be better supported in 8.10?
[19:39] <JackZD8K>    im attempting to get Compiz running on my laptop on 8.10 (rc) i have an ATI mobility x600. Is there a version of xserver-xgl that i can install? will the one for 8.04 run fine on 8.10? (there doesnt seem to be a list for it in the repositories for 8.10 atm)
[19:39] <saml> nmh-j2graw, hrm.  my mail server is mail.mydomain.com
[19:39] <mongolai> JakeMon:  have you had a look at "man adduser" yet? if not, you should.
[19:39] <xtian_> im running ubuntu 8.04.1 w/ an nvidia 8600GT, and everything was working fine until i tried to install nvidia-gtx and now the OS wont detect my screen, and only allows me to operate in 800x600. It was working fine before
[19:39] <nmh-j2graw> saml: (sorry, I wasn't sure you wanted to start at the notion of email or what)
[19:39] <xtian_> can anyone help?
[19:39] <nmh-j2graw> saml: what are you doing for dns?  are you running your own name server? is someone else (your registrar) serving dns for you?
[19:40] <saml> nmh-j2graw, i use my registrar. i can edit dns entries using their web interface
[19:40] <Slart> xtian_: can you pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[19:41] <nmh-j2graw> saml: I think you want to just add the mx entry and (assuming everything else is done) wait for it to propagate.
[19:41] <Slart> !paste | xtian_
[19:41] <xtian_> Slart: one second
[19:41] <jim_p> anyone having a working nvidia 9xxx series here? how did you install the drivers, if not from synaptic
[19:41] <redheat> !wifi
[19:41] <genii> saml: And you are running bind on the machine IP you have pointed the registrars's control panel at?
[19:41] <saml> nmh-j2graw, alright i'll read up on MX entry and stuff
[19:42] <Parsec300> Is it possible for Firestarter to monitor all network connections? This would be nice if you alternate between internet devices. Like LAN when at home and WiFi somewhere else.
[19:42] <saml> genii, i don't know what is  bind
[19:42] <genii> nmh-j2graw: The time tag also needs to always be updated or it will never propogate
[19:42] <genii> saml: It is the dns serving software
[19:42] <blue_mushroom> How do I set the dpi ?
[19:42] <nmh-j2graw> genii: if the editing is via a web interface, they probably deal with that
[19:42] <blue_mushroom> What application do I need to install ?
[19:42] <xtian_> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62141/
[19:42] <rober2> hello guys
[19:42] <blue_mushroom> screen Display DPI
[19:43] <Slart> xtian_: thanks, I'll have a look. be back in a second
[19:43] <JackZD8K> ok it seems that its an issue with fglrx and 8.10
[19:43] <mongolai> JakeMon:  it looks like you have to edit /etc/adduser.conf  and possibly some other files...
[19:43] <xtian_> thanks
[19:43] <rober2> can somebody help me please with my little homenetwork trouble?
[19:43] <genii> nmh-j2graw: I was thinking on his local box which it maybe was pointed to but it appears he likely isn't runninga any dns serving app like bind9 etc etc
[19:43] <blue_mushroom> I s this the correct place to ask? :D
[19:43] <blue_mushroom> About Display Settings?
[19:43] <blue_mushroom> :D
[19:43] <rober2> I need to connect two ubuntu pc's
[19:44] <SchneeSchwarz> !anyone | rober2
[19:44] <Slart> xtian_: if you look at line 23, "(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[19:44] <redheat> hi everyone, I have a question about the WPA supplicant, does it come preinstalled with ubuntu 8.04 or should I install it if I want my wireless adapter to connect to my WPA-secured wireless nettwork
[19:44] <yabuk> how to install a Bematech printer?
[19:44] <xomp> !purekde > xomp
[19:44] <blue_mushroom> what's the problem then rober2
[19:44] <blue_mushroom> ?
[19:44] <Slart> xtian_: that means something went wrong when it tried to load the regular file which is just called /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:44] <xtian_> ok
[19:44] <nmh-j2graw> genii: well, it is a useful note for those who are running a nameserver (or poking at one without the shiny interfaces)
[19:44] <saml> do I need to bother with MX record?  mail.mydomain.com points to my mail server ip. I can telent to it on port 25.  I first want it to recieve emails
[19:44]  * kwabbles is away: Gone away for now.
[19:45] <xtian_> i see that
[19:45] <Slart> xtian_: so it falls back on a safe mode config.. which just runs with low res vesa mode
[19:45] <quibbler> xtain_: nvidia-gtx I think you need to install  nvidia-gtx-new instead
[19:45] <xtian_> Slart: how would i find out what is causing it to use that file?
[19:45] <rober2> blue_mushroom: I can't connect for some reason....
[19:45] <nmh-j2graw> saml: I am not certain you NEED to, but I think it is a very good idea.
[19:45] <scientes> how can i prevent oom problem on my ubuntu box?
[19:45] <scientes> problems
[19:46] <redheat> so folks does anyone know anything about WPA supplicant? should I install it on Ubuntu if I want my network to use WPA?
[19:46] <augusto_> ciao
[19:46] <redheat> any help is appreciated
[19:46] <blue_mushroom> rober2:  so you're using a cross-over cable to connect two PCs ?
[19:46] <rober2> blue_mushroom: I set up the adapters like this: ip 192.168.1.100/101, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.1
[19:46] <scientes> i run the vm and then the next day cant open anything or even ssh cause all the memory is gone
[19:46] <rober2> yes, I use a cross-over cable
[19:46] <xtian_> Slart: do you want me to post my xorg.conf file?
[19:46] <blue_mushroom> OK...
[19:46] <blue_mushroom>  why not try the 10.0.0.1
[19:46] <blue_mushroom> and 10.0.0.2 ?
[19:47] <usser> redheat, you dont really need to bother about wpa_supplicant, in ubuntu every network setting is handled by network manager
[19:47] <mongolai> xtian_:  use a poastebin
[19:47] <mongolai> *pastebin
[19:47] <rober2> blue_mushroom: ping works
[19:47] <xtian_> ok
[19:47] <xtian_> doing it now
[19:47] <blue_mushroom> Oh.
[19:47] <blue_mushroom> OK rober2
[19:47] <saml> oh the postfix log says: address not listed for hostname blah.blah.amazon.com
[19:47] <xtian_> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62145/
[19:47] <redheat> usser, the problem is I can't get connected to my WPA-secured network, no matter what..I thought it might be that WPA supplicant app, I just don't know what to do more
[19:47] <saml> I'm running ubuntu on amazon EC2
[19:48] <rober2> but I can access the other pc with nautilus
[19:48] <usser> redheat, what wireless card do you have? make model?
[19:48] <jim_p> anyone having a working nvidia 9xxx series here? how did you install the drivers, if not from synaptic
[19:48] <saml> and I have DNS configured so that mail.mydomain.com will hit that amazon instance
[19:48] <mongolai> xtian_:  what was your problem again?
[19:48] <blue_mushroom> Then what's the problem then rober2  ?
[19:49] <redheat> ok it's a Belkin USB wireless adapter F5D9050B, and it uses a Ralink driver rt73usb
[19:49] <Slart> xtian_: sorry.. got a phone call.. yea.. xorg.conf file.. right.. I'll have a look
[19:49] <KKyle_> I just finished installing ubuntu and the first thing I notice is that the login screen doesn't take up the whole screen it's just in the upper left corner, the same goes for my desktop
[19:49] <blue_mushroom> can't access the first PC with the second?
[19:49] <xtian_> mongolai: my system wont detect my screen and it wont let me change into the correct res (1440x900)
[19:50] <xtian_> mongolai: it was working fine before i tried to install the nvidia-glx package
[19:50] <mongolai> xtian_:  OK that's what i thought. do you know how to edit files and nknow how to "comment out" lines?
[19:50] <PerfectExodus> Hey! What would cause 8.10 to hang on boot ever now and then?
[19:50] <xtian_> mongolai: yes i do
[19:50] <nmh-j2graw> saml: if you haven't looke at this already, you may want to see: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html
[19:50] <Ben> hi guys, looking into hlds to serve counterstrike from my ubuntu server 8.04 but can't find the installer on steampowered.com, just hlsdupdatetool.bin anyone know where I need to look next?? cheers
[19:50] <ay^> !intrepid | PerfectExodus
[19:50] <xtian_> mongolai: Slart is also helping me on this issue
[19:50] <cyban> Will evolution work with Gmail or somethin?
[19:50] <saml> nmh-j2graw, yup i'm on it
[19:50] <Slart> xtian_: it's set to use the "nv" driver.. try changing that to nvidia
[19:50] <rober2> blue_mushroom: I can't acces the other pc
[19:50] <xomp> cyban, yes
[19:50] <Slart> xtian_: if you've got the binary driver installed
[19:50] <cyban> IMAP?
[19:51] <usser> redheat, never dealt with ralink sorry. but you may try to install ubuntu backports modules. they help sometimes
[19:51] <redheat> usser, did you get the model I wrote..it's F5D9050B and it uses rt73usb linux driver
[19:51] <mongolai> xtian_:  cool. maybe Slart has better ideas. Also comment out the modeline and gamma lines from section monitor, and the subsection display in section screen
[19:51] <redheat> sorry for bold fons
[19:51] <xomp> cyban, yes
[19:51] <redheat> fonts*
[19:51] <cyban> thx
[19:51] <usser> redheat, yea i got it look above ^
[19:51] <xtian_> Slart: looking now, you mean in the xorg.conf file right?
[19:52] <Slart> xtian_, mongolai: indeed.. I agree about the modelines.. they ought to be discovered automagically
[19:52] <Slart> xtian_: yes..
[19:52] <rober2> blue_mushroom: smb:///192.168.1.101 couldn't be found
[19:52] <Slart> xtian_: line 26
[19:52] <xtian_> Slart: ok, how do i change the modelines?
[19:52] <Slart> xtian_: just remove them
[19:52] <blue_mushroom> Why are you complicating the situation rober2 ?
[19:52] <blue_mushroom> Smb?
[19:52] <blue_mushroom> Wait.
[19:52] <blue_mushroom> One's with Windows?
[19:53] <xtian_> Slart: ok, are you talking about line 35?
[19:53] <mongolai> xtian_:  there is only one modeline there. just comment it out. also comment out the whole subsection "Display"
[19:53] <redheat> oh ok..thank you so much usser for the info..I'll try to see what's those ports modules
[19:53] <redheat> thank you again..
[19:53] <rober2> no windows
[19:53] <mongolai> xtian_:  I take that back!!
[19:54] <Ben> anyone here running HLDS on ubuntu server? cant find the downloads
[19:54] <rober2> shouldn't I use smb?
[19:54] <wardolb> if i starting installing xfce through an ssh connection can i close my ssh client in windows and the installation continue?
[19:54] <mongolai> xtian_:  just comment out the "Virtual" and "Modes" lines of SubSection "Display", and also the modeline
[19:54] <mgolisch> Ben: what downloads?
[19:54] <Slart> xtian_: yup
[19:54] <blue_mushroom> rober2: then why are you using smb?
[19:54] <blue_mushroom> No.
[19:54] <joaopinto> wardolb, use: nohup command&
[19:54] <usser> wardolb, no as soon as u disconnect all the program that u ran will quit
[19:54] <blue_mushroom> use nfs
[19:54] <xtian_> mongolai: ok \n Slart ok
[19:54] <usser> wardolb, nohup ^
[19:54] <Ben> mgolisch: I cant find where to get hlds for linux :(
[19:55] <joaopinto> wardolb, or screen, which allows to resume the terminal session
[19:55] <blue_mushroom> that's the linux way of accessing things
[19:55] <blue_mushroom> Smb is a translation for accessing windows shares
[19:55] <blue_mushroom> or sharing on a windows network
[19:55] <blue_mushroom> (samba)
[19:55] <wardolb> well i already started it so i guess im just gonna have to wait it out..
[19:55] <rober2> blue_mushroom: hmm..nfs?
[19:55] <wardolb> thanks
[19:55] <mongolai> xtian_:  it should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62146/
[19:55] <mgolisch> Ben: on their website?
[19:55] <blue_mushroom> Wait///
[19:56] <blue_mushroom> rober2: I'm going to link you to a page
[19:56] <mongolai> Slart:  ^^does my paste look ok to you?
[19:56] <xtian_> mongolai: thats what i have
[19:56] <joaopinto> wardolb, if you stop it it will resume downloading from the point it was stopped (assuming it is still downloading)
[19:56] <rober2> the nautilus connection dialog says no where nfs
[19:56] <xtian_> mongolai: replacing the file now
[19:56] <zaapiel> sookies mine!
[19:56] <wardolb> yea
[19:56] <rober2> ok, thanks
[19:56] <Slart> mongolai: checking
[19:56] <Ben> mgolisch the only file they have that mentions linux is hldsupdatetool.bin and their support section doesnt mention linux at all :(
[19:56] <Decepticon> what tool do i use to administer wifi?
[19:56] <xtian_> mongolai: done
[19:56] <wardolb> it will continue if i stop it and start it on the actual computer
[19:56] <Slart> mongolai, xtian_ : sure.. looks good to me
[19:57] <xtian_> Slart: done
[19:57] <wardolb> ?
[19:57] <marcelo> Is there any other way to switch between terminals other than Crtl Alt Fn?
[19:57] <mongolai> cool beans. I hope it works!
[19:57] <blue_mushroom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_System_(protocol) rober2
[19:57] <xtian_> mongolai, Slart: do i just restart now?
[19:57] <komputes> Decepticon: your wireless access point (router) or your wireless controller (chip on laptop)
[19:57] <mongolai> xtian_:  yeppers
[19:57] <mgolisch> Ben: http://storefront.steampowered.com/download/hldsupdatetool.bin
[19:57] <xtian_> mongolai, Slart: how do i know that it will use that file and not the failsafe one?
[19:58] <Decepticon> komputes im asking about connecting to wifi, administering wifi connections on ubuntu, what software to use for this purpose.
[19:58] <Slart> xtian_: it only uses the failsafe one if the ordinary one doesn't work
[19:58] <xtian_> mongolai Slart: ok, ill be back in a bit
[19:58] <mongolai> Slart:  you should have mentioned ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[19:58] <Ben> mgolisch i have  the update tool... will that install the whole thing ? its really unclear
[19:58] <blue_mushroom> Hmm, can anyone tell me please how to set a higher dpi for desktop fonts in ubuntu?
[19:59] <Slart> mongolai: hehe.. I suppose so, yes
[19:59] <mgolisch> Ben: yeah
[19:59] <Decepticon> connecting to wifi, administering wifi connections on ubuntu, what software to use for this purpose on ubuntu?
[19:59] <Ben> mgolisch ah ok ta, thats where im being stupid. it always comes down to me being stupid, its just a case of finding where ;)
[19:59] <linuxlover69> Does any of you know how to use ctr alt del in ubuntu
[20:00] <inik> ﻿blue_mushroom -preferences - apearance-  fonts
[20:00] <mgolisch> linuxlover69: what do you mean?
[20:00] <mongolai> linuxlover69:  are you trying to reboot?
[20:00] <blue_mushroom> I figured out :)
[20:00] <blue_mushroom> THank you very much mgolisch
[20:00] <blue_mushroom> I just reached that page
[20:00] <linuxlover69> no like to get the process manager up
[20:00] <blue_mushroom> I never for one second thought about looking at fonts
[20:00] <blue_mushroom> I was trying to find dpi, lol :)
[20:01] <xtian_> Slart, mongolai: didnt work
[20:01] <andychinghe> carnopen
[20:01] <ubuntu_todd> What's the mean of %U after a command like rhythmbox in gnome applications, rhythmbox %U?
[20:01] <xtian_> Slart, mongolai: i still got the message before the login screen that tries to get me to config the resolution
[20:01] <BetaTest> ubuntu doesnt connect to the internet, even if its just the livecd, can anybody help me please?
[20:02] <Slart> xtian_: hmm.. you do have the nvidia restricted driver installed?
[20:02] <filth_> hmm. i was wondering whether it was possible to change the resolution to the bootsplash? you know, the startup ubuntu GUI loader interface.
[20:02] <bmunger> what tool exists for ubuntu/kubuntu to rip a dvd to ipod video format?
[20:02] <xtian_> let me check
[20:02] <hypn0> blue_mushroom: it should be under screen resolution shouldn't it
[20:02] <nmh-j2graw> linuxlover69: I usually use top / ps
[20:02] <blue_mushroom> hypn0: that's where I looked first
[20:02] <usser> bmunger, ffmpeg or mencoder
[20:02] <blue_mushroom> It appears it isn't there
[20:02] <BetaTest> if nobody knows can i be redirected somewhere?
[20:02] <blue_mushroom> it's under Apearance/Fonts
[20:02] <xtian_> yes
[20:02] <bmunger> usser: does it remove the nasty copy protection?
[20:02] <xtian_> Slart: yes
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[20:03] <linuxlover69> nmh-j2graw:whats top / ps
[20:03] <hypn0> blue_mushroom: I meant it shouldn't be under fonts :-)
[20:03] <mongolai> xtian_:  did you install ubuntu with "Safe graphics mode" or whatever it's called
[20:03] <shane2peru> !intrepid
[20:03] <usser> bmunger, no for dvd protection u have to jump thru some hoops with libdvdcss.
[20:03] <blue_mushroom> Yeah. it shouldn't
[20:03] <xtian_> Slart: when i installed ubuntu? no
[20:03] <nmh-j2graw> linuxlover69: commandline programs. open a terminal, type 'top'
[20:03] <blue_mushroom> That's where it's intuitive to be under display.
[20:03] <cyban> anyone know which encryption for evolution to pull gmail IMAP?
[20:03] <xtian_> mongolai: the damn thing worked when i installed ubuntu
[20:04] <usser> bmunger, vlc should let u rip dvd to a divx or something similar
[20:04] <BetaTest> anybody at all?
[20:04] <cyban> er rather which encryption method I should choose to be able to get my gamil through IMAP to Evolution
[20:04] <blue_mushroom> Or if not a link in display that leads to the one in fonts
[20:04] <hypn0> blue_mushroom: file a bug with gnome I think :-)
[20:04] <xtian_> mongolai: its only now that its not working, after i tried updating the driver
[20:04] <bmunger> usser: ok i will research that, thanks
[20:04] <blue_mushroom> lol :)
[20:04] <mongolai> xtian_:  Ohhhh...
[20:04] <blue_mushroom> I think that's a feature request hypn0  :D
[20:04] <mongolai> xtian_:  hmmm
[20:04] <Slart> xtian_: you could always try envyng.. might work for you
[20:04] <xtian_> Slart: i tried that as well
[20:05] <xtian_> Slart: after it started doing this i have tried uninstalling nvidia-glx-new and installing nvidia-glx
[20:05] <mongolai> xtian_:  is your xorg.conf the same as the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/62146/   or did it revert to something else?
[20:05] <xtian_> Slart: i tried using envyng - no dice
[20:05] <BetaTest> !internet
[20:05] <xtian_> mongolai: let me check
[20:05] <Slart> xtian_: I would try uninstalling everything nvidia using the "completely remove" option.. or purge if you're using command line
[20:06] <xtian_> mongolai: its the same as we set it to
[20:06] <xtian_> Slart: ok, how do i do that?
[20:06] <xtian_> Slart: i like the command line
[20:06] <BetaTest> Slart, mongolai either one of you have a solution for me? :/
[20:07] <Slart> BetaTest: you haven't really given us much to work with.. how do you connect to the internet normally? modem? wireless? ethernet?
[20:07] <mongolai> BetaTest:  what's your problem?
[20:08] <xtian_> Slart: would apt-get remove --purge nvidia work?
[20:08] <BetaTest> mongolai ubuntu won't connect to the internet at all, not even off the livecd i downloaded from the official site
[20:08] <Slart> xtian_: perhaps apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[20:08] <celestin> #mo-fansub@irc.otaku-irc.fr
[20:08] <xtian_> Slart: thats what i was just going to do, trying now...
[20:08] <BetaTest> both guts (7.1) and hardy (8.04) refused to, even if i install it
[20:09] <BetaTest> gutsy*
[20:09] <celestin> #mo-fansub
[20:09] <Flannel> celestin: Please stop.
[20:09] <Flannel> celestin: if you're trying to join, use /join #channel
[20:09] <shell> slart
[20:09] <mongolai> BetaTest:  do you have cable internet, or dial-up, or maybe dsl?
[20:10] <shell> Slart, i know the bset way
[20:10] <BetaTest> cable
[20:10] <BetaTest> see, thing is, right now im running it via vmware
[20:10] <zezu> I'm trying to use a serial -> USB adapter, how can i tell which tty it would be using ?
[20:10] <BetaTest> and even still its no go
[20:10] <xtian_> Slart: ok, everything is removed
[20:10] <turcko> help, anyone can helpme with network configuration ????
[20:10] <Slart> xtian_: reboot.. and then try installing it using  envyng
[20:10] <mongolai> BetaTest:  what is the host operating system?
[20:11] <xTheGoat121x> Hi everyone... anyone know a way to improve the max volume in Ubuntu?  100% in Ubuntu is only about 50% of what it is in Windows.
[20:11] <shell> xtian_, are you having issues with nvidia ????????????
[20:11] <shell> mongolai,  do alsamixer
[20:11] <nmh-j2graw> zezu: what does the driver documentation say?
[20:11] <shell> in console: alsamixer
[20:11] <xtian_> shell: yes, Slart and mongolai are helping me
[20:11] <BetaTest> mongolai: Vista
[20:11] <mongolai> shell:  redirect that to xTheGoat121x
[20:12] <shell> xtian_,  theres a better way
[20:12] <zezu> nmh- i haven't installed any drivers for it, it is ftdi and i think ubuntu has them built in
[20:12] <xTheGoat121x> mongolai, shell, it's already at 100%
[20:12] <lordredyen> hi there
[20:12] <blue_mushroom> Thanks everybody, good night! :)
[20:12] <xtian_> Slart: heres the result of that command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62165/
[20:12] <xtian_> shell: whats that?
[20:12] <lordredyen> i have a problem compiling linuxwacom
[20:12] <mongolai> BetaTest:  so you're running ubuntu in a virtual machine hosted on Vista, but ubuntu can't connect to the internet. Also, when you try the ubuntu livecd, you still can't connect. Is that about the jist of it?
[20:12] <neo__> Hi!
[20:12] <Stormx2> LordDicranius, why are you compiling? What's the problem?
[20:12] <shell> xtian_,  install envy
[20:12] <xtian_> shell: i already tried that
[20:13] <xtian_> shell: it didnt work
[20:13] <Slart> xtian_: looks good so far
[20:13] <nmh-j2graw> zezu: great, try it and let me know what happens!  It might give you something like /dev/ttyUSB (or you can look at what you have before and after plugging it in)
[20:13] <shell> xtian_,  do you have hardy ??
[20:13] <BetaTest> mongolai for the most part, after installing ubuntu and booting that up, still no go
[20:13] <xtian_> Slart, mongolai, shell: restarting now, back in a bit
[20:13] <xtian_> shell: yes
[20:13] <lordredyen> when im trying to make drivers
[20:13] <lordredyen> make says
[20:13] <lordredyen>  Building linuxwacom drivers for 2.6 kernel. ***Note: Drivers not enabled as modules in your kernel config but requested through configure are NOT built
[20:13] <LordDicranius> Stormx2 - wrong "lord" :-p
[20:13] <Marupa> This is less a support question and more a general one. In everyone's opinion, what is the easiest 3D modelling tool to use?
[20:13] <mongolai> xTheGoat121x:  did you enable all the volume properties in the Volume control preferences?
[20:13] <zezu> nmh-j2graw, thanks got it does use ttyUSB0
[20:13] <Stormx2> LordDicranius: Sorry :(
[20:13] <shell> xtian_,  and you started anvy from console without X  ??
[20:14] <Tundrayeti312> yeah happend again
[20:14] <sani__> dany_21a_: I can see bind-address 127.0.0.1 but what can I do for it?
[20:14] <nmh-j2graw> zezu: great, that is something I am going to be poking at later on
[20:14] <Stormx2> lordredyen: Why are you compiling them?
[20:14] <sani__> dany_21a_: I mean how can I get it work for other PC's in home or stuff
[20:14] <Stormx2> lordredyen, would sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom not do the same job?
[20:14] <lordredyen> i have a tx2000 so touch screen doesnt work}
[20:14] <Decepticon> what software to use for connecting to wifi, administering wifi connections, on ubuntu?
[20:14] <zezu> yea, picked up a beagleboard, nice little piece of hardware
[20:14] <LordDicranius> Stormx2: heh it's OK :-P
[20:14] <mongolai> Marupa:  blender is a little difficult to "get" but there is a method to the madness, and if 3d modelling is something you'd like to do, it's a good tool to know how to use
[20:15] <dany_21a_> sani__: comment that line ("#" infront of if) and restart the mysql server... this means, it listens to all interfaces.. google for further infos
[20:15] <xTheGoat121x> mongolai, yes, I did.  I've tried everything I can possibly think of; currently, I'm doing a search for my sound card on ubuntuforums.
[20:15] <lordredyen> i have reinsalled many times xserver-...-wacom
[20:15] <r3c0n> i just upgraded to intrepid but im experiencing issues :/ as an example sound in wine is choppy
[20:15] <nmh-j2graw> zezu: hopefully it will work easily the first time around
[20:15] <Flannel> r3c0n: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks.
[20:15] <r3c0n> thx
[20:15] <Marupa> mongolai, I just tried it and failed miserably, even with a tutorial.
[20:15] <mongolai> xTheGoat121x:  well, I'm sure you'll find something pertinant.
[20:16] <mongolai> Marupa:  what was the problem?
[20:16] <BetaTest> so mongolai any ideas?
[20:16] <Marupa> mongolai, too difficult.
[20:16] <xTheGoat121x> mongolai, I'm hoping.  It's pretty ridiculous, the difference in volume between Windows and Ubuntu
[20:16] <Decepticon> what software to use for connecting to wifi, administering wifi connections, on ubuntu?
[20:16] <Decepticon> how do i scan for wifi networks
[20:16] <T_Davis> !wireless
[20:16] <Decepticon> is there a tool that shows me available wifi networks near me
[20:16] <BetaTest> !wifi
[20:16] <zezu> anyone use putty ?  can't figure out how to paste into it :|
[20:16] <T_Davis> !madwifi
[20:17] <mongolai> BetaTest:  that's something that really should just start up on it's own. Do you have a static IP address by chance?
[20:17] <BetaTest> zezu have you tried clicking the wheel?
[20:17] <Marupa> zezu: putty auto-copies when you seleect, and paste via shift+insert.
[20:17] <lordredyen> so see u
[20:17] <kitche> Decepticon: there is a few wicd network manager or just iwconfig
[20:17] <lordredyen> i havo to go work
[20:17] <BetaTest> mongolai i think might, but is there any way of checking?
[20:17] <lordredyen> thanks for help
[20:17] <turcko> Hi, I have 2 WAN conection, 80.x.x.x and 212.x.x.x and my default gateway is 80.x.x.x but I can't connect via 212.x.x.x (If change my gw to 212.x.x.x all works fine...) any idea? thanks
[20:17] <saml> now i can receive emails   on root@mail.mydomain.com    but not root@mydomain.com
[20:17] <zezu> the wheel ? that little tiny icon ?  it does nothing, Marupa: Thanks
[20:18] <saml> on my MX, I have   mydomain.com => mail.mydomain.com     and mail.mydomain.com => mail.mydomain.com
[20:18] <BetaTest> zezu i mean on the mouse, it's called mouse 3
[20:18] <BetaTest> the one you use to scroll with
[20:18] <Decepticon> i have lan and wlan both connected, how do i tell ubuntu to use the wlan for now without disconnecting the lan (im econnected to the ubuntu machine via vnc on the lan)
[20:18] <pinkopallo> salve a tutti
[20:18] <mongolai> BetaTest:  that's something you'd need to ask either your ISP or perhaps one of the windows Vista people how to determine. I'm sorry, but I can't really help you there
[20:18] <zezu> BetaTest, yes, it just goes to next line
[20:18] <Marupa> mongolai, got any other suggestions?
[20:18] <BetaTest> all right thanks
[20:18] <zezu> shift-insert doesn't work either, weird
[20:19] <nmh-j2graw> saml: what mta are you using? what happens when you try to send to root@mydomain.com ?
[20:19] <Marupa> zezu: maybe control+insert.  I can't remember.
[20:19] <favro> !win32codecs | Dan_swede
[20:19] <Marupa> zezu: You can also right click and choose paste.
[20:20] <inik> ﻿zezu:you can  paste with left button click
[20:20] <mongolai> Marupa:  I think i lost a message there somewhere :) Really, it's *reallly* difficult to get past the initial learning curve of blender, but it does make sense. I have no other ideas besides finding a better Blender tutorial
[20:20] <Marupa> mongolai, I got stuck on extruding >.<
[20:20] <pinkopallo> !list
[20:20] <inik> ﻿zezu: uf you ask about putty ssh client
[20:20] <pinkopallo> ! list
[20:20] <zezu> o.O
[20:21] <pinkopallo> ! list
[20:21] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Hello, How do i fix "/usr/sh: gmake: not fount" problem? =(
[20:21] <Marupa> IWannaBeTheGuy, install gmake
[20:21] <zezu> Marupa, ctrl+insert and shift+insert dont work, and right click and choose paste = no menu on right click
[20:22] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Marupa, No such thing
[20:22] <zezu> inik, left click sure doesn't do it, just focuses and removes selection lines from console
[20:22] <xtian_> mongolai, shell: you still there?
[20:22] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[20:22] <Marupa> IWannaBeTheGuy, then you'll have to find a binary of gmake, or something.
[20:22] <turcko> Hi, I have 2 WAN conection, 80.x.x.x and 212.x.x.x and my default gateway is 80.x.x.x but I can't connect via 212.x.x.x (If change my gw to 212.x.x.x all works fine...) any idea? thanks
[20:22] <Marupa> zezu: This is PuTTY, the SSH program?
[20:22] <mongolai> xtian_:  yea, any luck. Got lost in the flood of text :/
[20:22] <saml> nmh-j2graw, i'm using postfix. I get this on /var/log/syslog     postfix/smtpd[5992]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from punt10.authsmtp.com[62.13.128.91]: 454 4.7.1 <postmaster@mail.mydomain.info>: Relay access denied; from=<support4@authsmtp.com> to=<postmaster@mail.mydomain.info> proto=ESMTP helo=<punt10.authsmtp.com>
[20:22] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Marupa, Okey
[20:22] <inik> zezu - putty - windows ssh client?
[20:22] <zezu> Marupa, yes
[20:23] <zezu> inik, in windows it does work that way, talking about in ubuntu thought
[20:23] <Marupa> zezu: I just tried it on my windows comp. It works.  Must be your end.
[20:23] <nmh-j2graw> saml: what do you have set for mydestination
[20:23] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Marupa, lol thought ubuntu would have it at least
[20:23] <xtian_> mongolai: well it looks like slart is gone. I uninstalled everything nvidia using apt-get remove  --purge nvidia*
[20:23] <cyban> arf, still cant get my WiFi card working even with NDIS wrapper
[20:23] <zezu> Marupa, on windows it does work that way ;p
[20:23] <xtian_> now what should i do?
[20:23] <Marupa> zezu: don't use putty in linux.
[20:23] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[20:23] <inik> ﻿zezu: why you use putty in ubuntu?
[20:23] <zezu> why not?  I'm familiar with it and it seems to work just as well
[20:23] <xtian_> i think the restricted driver was being used before (the one in "hardware drivers" when the system actually worked, but its not there anymore
[20:23] <Marupa> zezu: use ssh from console.
[20:23] <saml> nmh-j2graw, mydomain.com, mail.mydomain.com, localdomain, localhost, localhost.localdomain
[20:23] <nmh-j2graw> saml: and I am sure you are looking at: http://www.postfix.org/basic.html#mydestination
[20:23] <zezu> minicom sucks ass
[20:23] <xtian_> mongolai: i think the restricted driver was being used before (the one in "hardware drivers" when the system actually worked, but its not there anymore
[20:24] <csilk> zezu,  the terminal has ssh built into it
[20:24] <saml> nmh-j2graw, oh thank you
[20:24] <zezu> Marupa && csilk: I'm using this for serial i should specify
[20:24] <nmh-j2graw> saml: sarcasticly, or for real?
[20:24] <mongolai> xtian_:  well, lets first work on getting you back to square one -- with working resolution. That sound OK to you?
[20:24] <zezu> serial input from rs232->USB adapter from console of another machine
[20:24] <saml> nmh-j2graw, for real. i saw that page, but did not read it carefully
[20:24] <zezu> so its not SSH
[20:25] <camila> hi
[20:25] <dreamor> Heya
[20:25] <nmh-j2graw> saml: I am glad you were able to figure it out - I was almost out of easy suggestions
[20:25] <inik> ﻿zezu: ok . i understand
[20:25] <csilk> Anyone know why virtualbox kernal module messed with my wifi and grfx?
[20:26] <shell> whats wrong with minicom ???
[20:26] <camila> eu não sei falar sua lingua
[20:26] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Marupa, There is no such thing, should just simply point it on /usr/bin/make and all is fine
[20:26] <Marupa> Anyone know of any 'easier' tutorials for blender, or something easier to use for blender?
[20:27] <mongolai> xtian_:  something just dawned on me, and it might me totally obvious, but are there backups of your xorg.conf from before your problems started?
[20:27] <nmh-j2graw> Marupa: what are you trying to do?
[20:27] <Marupa> nmh-j2graw, character modelling.
[20:27] <dreamor> What is the proper way to upgrade a system that is on an encrypted disk?  I used the 8.04 alt cd when I installed it and now I want to upgrade.
[20:28] <nmh-j2graw> Marupa: gak - not my thing, sorry.
[20:28] <xtian_> mongolai: i never backed them up
[20:28] <xtian_> mongolai: and yes, that sounds good to me
[20:28] <Marupa> Dang it >.<
[20:28] <mongolai> xtian_:  but perhaps X did itself. Is there something like xorg.conf.(some date)
[20:28] <xtian_> mongolai: let me see
[20:29] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[20:29] <xtian_> mongolai: xorg.conf_backup_200810241958
[20:29] <mazadillon> I am having a problem of X crashing at random and kicking me back to the login screen, running Hardy Heron
[20:29] <saml> is there a program that reads mails on Maildir interactively and let me delete?
[20:29] <dreamor> Oh I should also mention that I changed motherboards and I can't currently access the system due to hardware compatibility issues that will be resolved with the new 2.6.27 kernel
[20:29] <mongolai> xtian_:  what time is it where you live?
[20:29] <magnetron> saml→ Thunderbird
[20:30] <xtian_> mongolai: well the computer is set to 9:30pm, but its 2:30pm here
[20:30] <mongolai> xtian_:  the 200810241958 means 7:58 pm on Oct 24
[20:30] <mazadillon> I have this in my log: Oct 24 20:24:18 matt-desktop kernel: [36389.565179] agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.
[20:30] <nmh-j2graw> saml: <unsure> have you looked at mutt or similar? </>
[20:30] <mongolai> xtian_:  so that's probably too new to be of any use, but that's ok
[20:30] <xtian_> mongolai: well i dont think thats soon enough
[20:30] <apadox> Hi, I have wierd problem .. i switched from xp to ubuntu and my wifi card or wired connection is not working, p.s. working on xp ... i tried removing wep passkey .. what should I do
[20:31] <saml> magnetron, nmh-j2graw these are a bit too complicated.. maybe i'll write a bash script for quickie
[20:31] <dido> hello.can any give me this book:moving to Ubuntu Linux
[20:31] <|Dreams|> anyone got the sound wokring on an acer laptop yet in intrepid, the work around doesnt work anymore
[20:31] <nmh-j2graw> saml: if mutt is too complicated, how about less or cat?
[20:31] <metranodee> Hi All! Great work on 8.10
[20:31] <xtian_> mongolai: so where should we start?
[20:31] <|Dreams|> bad work on 8.10 sound doesnt work
[20:32] <mongolai> xtian_:  what's the resolution you need?
[20:32] <Ben> mgolisch you still there?
[20:32] <Pici> !ibex | metranodee |Dreams|
[20:32] <metranodee> I have an issue with Ubuntu 8.10 which I cannot solve :( I had to re-install now 12 times Ubuntu and I did submit a Bug Report. I was wondering if anyone here could assist me in getting back into GDM
[20:32] <xtian_> mongolai: the monitor's native is 1440x900
[20:32] <magnetron> saml→ mutt "too complicated"?? it's an easy to use command-line app for interactive mail management. you *did* ask for an interactive app.
[20:32] <saml> oh mutt is pretty simple . let me install it
[20:32] <xtian_> mongolai: trying to set the resolution in system --> preferences --> screen resolution gives me two choices - 800x600 and 640x480
[20:32] <|Dreams|> sound doesnt work to start with didnt on hardy but now the work around for it to work doesnt work on intrepid grr
[20:33] <|Dreams|> how come hda intel sound isnt support anyways
[20:33] <xtian_> mongolai: but remember i dont have any nvidia drivers installed now
[20:33] <|Dreams|> supported*
[20:33] <dmz> any ubuntu 8 server users here who also use alsa?
[20:33] <xtian_> mongolai: so im not sure actually how this thing is displaying anything, but who knows
[20:34] <mongolai> xtian_:  i sent you a /msg  did you get it?
[20:34] <xtian_> mongolai: whats the resolution i need?
[20:34] <xtian_> mongolai: 1440x900
[20:34] <mongolai> 1440x900  just a sec...
[20:35] <LF|Irssi_> how do i search for a word that's in a unknown file on my hdd?
[20:36] <Pici> LF|Irssi_: use grep: grep -R "text" /path/*
[20:37] <LF|Irssi_> Pici: ty
[20:37] <Scunizi> I have a usb memory stick that use to work fine. Now when inserted nautilus opens it and displays the files/folder on it but will not allow access to anything. CPU usage goes to 66% and I have to Force Quit the window.. Any Ideas why this is happening?
[20:38] <Guest31744> Is there a way not to start Banshee another time when it's open and i am clicking mp3s?
[20:38] <Guest31744> Sorry, NOT another time
[20:38] <Guest31744> just one window, not opening another one
[20:38] <paruchuri_> yws
[20:38] <paruchuri_> how ru
[20:39] <favro> !ru
[20:39] <paruchuri_> male u
[20:39] <inik> парусске
[20:39] <mgolisch> Ben: yes
[20:39] <neztiti> guys how i can remove americas-army game
[20:40] <Flannel> neztiti: How did you install it?
[20:40] <neztiti> Flannel: from ultamatix
[20:41] <Flannel> neztiti: oh.  First off, don't *ever* use ultamatix.  Seeing that you already have...... well, lets see what we can salvage.
[20:41] <Pici> !ultamatix
[20:41] <LF|Irssi_> pico with that grep command i keep getting grep: /media/disk/dev/md10: Permission denied
[20:41] <LF|Irssi_> grep: /media/disk/dev/ttyS3: Permission denied
[20:41] <LF|Irssi_> grep: /media/disk/dev/ttyS1: Permission denied
[20:42] <LF|Irssi_> pico with that grep command i keep getting grep: /media/disk/dev/md10: Permission denied
[20:42] <snova> how do I change the cursor theme (under Gnome)?
[20:42] <Pici> LF|Irssi_: Don't grep inside /dev
[20:42] <LF|Irssi_> oops sorry for that flood,
[20:42] <Flannel> neztiti: Is there an americas army directory in /opt/?
[20:42] <LF|Irssi_> pico how do i exempt "/dev" from that search then?
[20:43] <LF|Irssi_> pici*
[20:43] <csilk> Whats the problem with the hardy vb kernel module ose-modules-generic, why does it break wifi?
[20:43] <neztiti> Flannel: no
[20:44] <Flannel> neztiti: how about /usr/local/?
[20:44] <Pici> LF|Irssi_: You can use --exclude-dir="/dev"
[20:44] <LF|Irssi_> ok thanks
[20:44] <LF|Irssi_> --exclude-dir="/dev"
[20:44] <LF|Irssi_> --exclude-dir="/dev"
[20:44] <LF|Irssi_> oops
[20:44] <neztiti> Flannel: /usr/local/games/armyops
[20:44] <metranodee> Does anyone know how to revert the 177x Nvidia Restricted Driver Install? I really do not want to reinstall ubuntu again :(
[20:44] <Flannel> neztiti: perfect.  remove that folder.
[20:45] <moradin> ?\
[20:45] <moradin> ?
[20:45] <moradin> help
[20:45] <moradin> #join gg
[20:45] <Pici> !ask | moradin
[20:46] <mib_bx1zce> hey guys, quick questioin regarding ubuntu 8.10
[20:46] <ion-__> I am trying to run diablo 2 using wine 1.0 on hardy. I installed everything, but when I try to run the game from the command using (wine "D:\playd2.exe") it tells me 'please verify that your d2 play disc is in cdrom' and I get the error fixme:aspi:SendASPI32Command ASPI: Partially implemented SC_HA_INQUIRY for adapter 0.
[20:46] <Flannel> mib_bx1zce: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid questions, thanks
[20:46] <neztiti> Flannel: /usr/local/games/armyops# ./uninstall
[20:46] <Ben> mgolisch im trying to install hlds but when i try to run the bin file it says command not found
[20:46] <Flannel> ion-__: you might have more luck in #winehq
[20:46] <neztiti> Flannel: done
[20:46] <ion-__> flannel: thanks
[20:46] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with the volume control on my laptop.  The front buttons raise and lower the volume indicator on the screen but it doesnt actually control my systems volume settings.  I can control them through the volume utility though
[20:47] <Flannel> neztiti: In the future, don't use ultamatix.  And actually,  you'll likely have to reinstall to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu because of the damage its done (your upgrade may fail), so you'll want to have backups, etc.
[20:47] <neztiti> Flannel: still the icon from games
[20:47] <Flannel> neztiti: Right, you'll need to remove that manually.
[20:48] <neztiti> Flannel: no remove here
[20:48] <Flannel> neztiti: right click the applications menu, and you can edit the menu
[20:48] <meoblast001> how do you add Applets to AWN?
[20:49] <neztiti> Flannel: done thank you man
[20:50] <xtian_> mongolai: no dice
[20:50] <neztiti> ok i will never use ultamatix :-X
[20:50] <mongolai> xtian_:  that's a major bummer :((
[20:50] <snova> how do I change the cursor theme in Gnome? I tried gcursor, but it didn't change anything, even after restarting X.
[20:51] <Decepticon> anyone know why i gotta constantly mount my slave hdd after every reboot? how can i make it so it automatically mounts on boot
[20:51] <mongolai> xtian_:  perhaps you should restate your problem so the fresh people here can give some more suggestions
[20:51] <saml> how can I recieve emails sent to me@me.com ?  not me@mail.me.com?  mail.me.com runs mail server.  me.com runs load balancing server. no mail server.
[20:51] <Decepticon> is it fstab
[20:51] <Decepticon> how do i make the mount happen at boot
[20:51] <metranodee> Can anyone here kindly assist me in getting back into Gnome? After an installation of the Restricted Driver 177 on two Geforce 8500 Video Cards. I have been battling this problem for several days :(
[20:51] <neztiti> Flannel: where is the directory of ultimatix downloads or archive??
[20:52] <dulak> saml: you set an mx for me.com that points to mail.me.com and configure mail.me.com accordingly
[20:52] <Alph4d0g> My USB HDD doesn't auto mount sometimes
[20:52] <Alph4d0g> this is due to it's power saving feature I believe
[20:52] <dulak> saml: DNS has a specific record for handling mail, called MX
[20:52] <snova> Decepticon: add an entry to /etc/fstab
[20:52] <saml> dulak, do I also need to set MX for mail.me.com   10 mail.me.com ?
[20:52] <Alph4d0g> I unplug and then replug and it mounts
[20:52] <Decepticon> hokay
[20:53] <snova> Decepticon: i think everything in fstab is automatically mounted.
[20:53] <dulak> saml: yes all your sub domains should have an MX pointing to a correct mail server, though smtp will default to the full subdomain if there is no MX
[20:53] <Decepticon> gotcha
[20:53] <kdubois1> why cant i find the "paste flipped" button in the action edit mode for animation?
[20:53] <Alph4d0g> WD mybook has power saving that I think causes this.  Could be wrong however
[20:53] <dulak> saml: and don't point an MX at a CNAME, only an A
[20:53] <Flannel> neztiti: I'm not really sure.
[20:53] <chadeldridge> alph4d0g:  is it a segate free agent drive ?
[20:54] <Alph4d0g> WD MyBook
[20:54] <neztiti> Flannel: ok thank u m8
[20:54] <chadeldridge> there should be a util you can run in windows that disables its power saving
[20:54] <chadeldridge> thats the issue probably i have it as well
[20:54] <Alph4d0g> does it mount automatically if you unplug it - then plug it in again?
[20:54] <saml> dulak, maybe i should wait until DNS propagates
[20:55] <metranodee> saml: Yes DNS will take time to propagate over the internet.
[20:55] <saml> currently, I have me.com MX 10 mail.me.com
[20:55] <chadeldridge> alph4d0g:  if i wait a few seconds before replug yes .. if i do it fast then no
[20:56] <dulak> saml: in the future you can keep propogation time low on a record by setting ttl to a low number, for instance when I know I'm going to be changing thigns I will reduce ttl from 1 day to 1 hour at least a day in advance so when I do the change, it propogates faster
[20:56] <Alph4d0g> sounds similar to what my issue is.  the drive goes into sleep mode when inactive.
[20:56] <Alph4d0g> never a problem until I reboot
[20:56] <snova> gcursor isn't working. is there another way to change the cursor theme?
[20:56] <zezu> ugh .. what would cause IO errors writing to SD card ?
[20:56] <saml> dulak, oh darn it's now 14400
[20:57] <chadeldridge>  I am having an issue with the volume control on my laptop.  The front buttons raise and lower the volume indicator on the screen but it doesnt actually control my systems volume settings.  I can control them through the volume utility though
[20:57] <dulak> saml: yeah that's something to look at for future dns changes, not something you can change now
[20:57] <mike_> hi all
[20:58] <asus> hi mike
[20:58] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[20:59] <chadeldridge> csillk:  inside the vm or in the host?
[20:59] <saml> dulak, oh i see. thanks
[21:00] <thinkgnu_> when i try to install a plasmoid in kde4 i get this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/62177/
[21:00] <asus> mmmhh
[21:00] <chadeldridge> csilk:  what version of virtual box are you using ?
[21:00] <Tumie> hi guys, does their exists an terminal based naulitus ???
[21:00] <mike_> how do I get dolphin to display the network?
[21:00] <dulak> Tumie: there is mc, a filemanager for terminal
[21:00] <asus> mmh nope
[21:01] <asus> i think that is the window
[21:01] <dulak> Tumie: it's not nautilus but it does nautilus type things
[21:01] <mongolai> Tumie:  no, not as such, but there are terminal mode file explorers
[21:01] <toutoutout> visit toutoutout.net
[21:01] <cdan> Hi there. Ive been using ubuntu for about 8 months now and its great and all but recently its giving me problems. This can happen several times a day: im in ubuntu 8.04 browsing the web, using an xp virtual machine or aking a voip phone call and the computer completely freezes. The mouse cursor cant be moved, the clock doesnt refreh the time, etc. and i have to manual reset the computer. Does anyone know what could cause this? Bad ram? Overheating? What should
[21:01] <cdan> I do? Thanks.. ps: I have another extremely annoying problem with ubuntu. Whenever I cllick switch users and the log in with another user, after a few minutes, the second user gets taken back to the login screen (the first user gets completely logged out when this happens) and when the second user logs back in there is an annoying noise that keeps repeating itself untill you log out. Also, many times, i think do to an error in nautilus or the screensaver,
[21:01] <cdan> lockin the screeen does not function properly, when you click on lock screen sometimes you just touch a key an it gets unlocked without typing the password. Additionally, I think due to a problem with Vmware workstation, I often cant use the shift or CTRL keys, or my shortcuts to switch desktop, or when i type something in terminal or firefox both programs close... Thanks in advance. Sorry for the long message
[21:01] <xtian_> mongolai: i hope your shorts taste good
[21:01] <LjL> call it long
[21:01] <Flannel> cdan: One problem at a time is best.
[21:01] <LjL> you know, this is not a forum...
[21:01] <xtian_> mongolai: you are awesome, booted no problem, didnt ask for anything, right back to where i was before
[21:02] <mongolai> xtian_:  that's great!! simple solutions, eh?
[21:02] <xtian_> mongolai: now perhaps you can help me with another problem, my sound is extremely faint, like i have to turn my speakers up all the way to hear the slightest sound
[21:02] <xtian_> mongolai: and i checked all my volume levels
[21:02] <thinkgnu_> any idea about which package i need to install ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/62177/
[21:02] <Flannel> cdan: next time it freezes, try holding alt and sysrq, then slowly typing r e i s u b, and see if it restarts.
[21:03] <xtian_> mongolai: i am running a Realtek ALC889A on borad codec
[21:03] <snoop_> aa
[21:03] <mongolai> xtian_:  copy that xorg file to a backup so you have something good to fall back upon should you decide to try the nvidia drivers again. about your sound, I'
[21:03] <favro> how do I get firefox to play wmv video?
[21:03] <metranodee> Can anyone here kindly assist me in getting back into Gnome? After an installation of the Restricted Driver 177 on two Geforce 8500 Video Cards. I have been battling this problem for several days :(
[21:03] <cdan> Flannel, thanks. I dont know what the sysrq key is though. My keyboard is in Spanish...
[21:03] <Tumie> dulak: thanks, :)
[21:04] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[21:04] <Guest79326> .
[21:04] <mongolai> xtian_:  (sorry, hit enter...) About the sound, I can't really help you, I don't have sound enabled on my computer right now for weird reasons, but look into issues particular to your computer and also look into "pulseaudio"
[21:04] <dulak> favro: there is a plugin for firefox that will play video in firefox using mplayer, I cannot remember the name though
[21:04] <Flannel> cdan: it usually shares a key with print screen
[21:04] <snova> any reason why using Gnome would make the fan run like crazy? KDE never got it this hot!
[21:05] <favro> dulak: mplayer-plugin - it tries to load then does nothing
[21:05] <dulak> favro: you can load mplayer manually though?
[21:05] <favro> dulak: for a local file it works fine
[21:05] <dulak> favro: let me install it and look, see if I have a problem
[21:05] <dulak> favro: you're on 8.04?
[21:05] <favro> dulak: thnxs
[21:06] <favro> yep
[21:06] <dulak> favro: k, give me a minute
[21:06] <kthef> hey snova, I had a compag/hp pos that the fan kept running a lot and I opened it up and the cpu heatsink fins were full of dust bunnies...
[21:06] <kthef> cleaned it out, and now works great, no high fan anymore!
[21:06] <cdan> Flannel, yeah thanks, i just wiki´d it. I saw it shares a key with print screen though my keyboard only has that particular key labeled with print screen. will try it though
[21:07] <snova> kthef: cleaning would probably do my laptop good, but this only started happening today, so that can't be it. i'm using gnome instead of my usual kde.
[21:07] <sabdjaskj> When i used the RC and the real release come out must be upgrading ?
[21:07] <snova> kthef: so i'm pretty sure it's gnome. i shut off desktop effects to see if that would help...
[21:07] <kthef> well, a difference in cpu load could do it, my box would run the fan high whenever I started firefox...hehehe
[21:08] <Wind67> ++
[21:08] <kthef> wouldn't hurt to shoot some compressed air into the cooling fins
[21:08] <dulak> favro: what package name did you install?
[21:08] <snova> kthef: maybe gnome just takes up more resources... i'll try shutting down some extra system services.
[21:09] <kthef> I hear that gnome is pretty tough on the system, I have always run it
[21:09] <LjL> !8.10 | sabdjaskj
[21:09] <favro> dulak: mozilla-mplayer
[21:09] <MakiNhu> ond e o canal de ajuda do ubuntu
[21:09] <Decepticon> im a little confused. i know i have two 500gb hdds and a 400gb hdd, but gnome's disk usage analyzer is only showing 1200gb total... how do i go into terminal and see all my hdds there? and their sizes?
[21:09] <MakiNhu> please
[21:09] <LjL> !pt | MakiNhu
[21:09] <snova> kthef: 156.2 F, 70 C - usually never higher than ~120
[21:10] <CJMaster> !login
[21:10] <CJMaster> @login
[21:10] <kthef> run the top command and check the load on your cpu
[21:10] <scientus> why is my nfs a lot slower than samba?
[21:10] <CJMaster> @quit
[21:10] <scientus> i though it was kernel level
[21:10] <snova> kthef: it's due for a cleaning anyway... i've never taken it apart. maybe that'll help.
[21:10] <Tonno> is there is some channer that people can help me to "how to use Open Office" in spanish?
[21:11] <magnetron> scientus→ there are two versions of it. one of them is kernel level
[21:11] <magnetron> !serverguide | scientus
[21:11] <kthef> run the top command while in kde, and gnome and compare the cpu load
[21:11] <SchneeSchwarz> !es | Tonno
[21:11] <LjL> Tonno: #openoffice.org-es is registered, but there is no one there
[21:11] <snova> kthef: i think it's a bit higher than usual, but i'm not certain what 'normal' is for me.
[21:11] <juannicolas> hi, can someone tell met how to save the iwconfig in order for the machine have the information in the next reboot?
[21:11] <Decepticon> im a little confused. i know i have two 500gb hdds and a 400gb hdd, but gnome's disk usage analyzer is only showing 1281gb total... im being ripped off 119gb, how do i go into terminal and see all my hdds and verify their sizes?
[21:11] <csilk> After installing virtualbox-ose-modules-generic  kernel: 2.6.24-21  I lose wifi and grfx driver, anyone know if this is a known issue, purge of the module didn't fix the problem
[21:12] <snova> kthef: all right, i'll dissappear for a bit...
[21:12] <Flare183> Why won't my computer automount my USB drive like it is supposed to?
[21:12] <kthef> go into the terminal window and type sudo fdisk -l   that is the letter L
[21:12] <marcelo> can i install the gnu-scientific library in ubuntu via apt-get install?
[21:12] <kthef> that is for Decepticon
[21:12] <favro> csilk: there is #vbox - they might know in there
[21:12] <mongolai> Decepticon:  from a terminal try "df -h"
[21:12] <scientus> tonno, http://es.openoffice.org/
[21:13] <magnetron> Decepticon→ that's the old Gigabyte/GB trick, all HDD producers market their HDDs like that
[21:13] <scientus> nfs is just really really slow for me
[21:13] <csilk> favro, no, they were insisting it's because I'm an idiot that can't install drivers
[21:13] <favro> ohh
[21:13] <Decepticon> magnetron so im not supposed to have 1400GB
[21:13] <LjL> !info gsl-bin | marcelo
[21:13] <magnetron> scientus→ yes, but did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[21:13] <scientus> and im using the ekrenel server
[21:13] <magnetron> Decepticon→ exactly.
[21:13] <Flare183> Any suggestions?
[21:14] <scientus> it takes like 3-4 seconds to browse to a folder
[21:14] <Flannel> Decepticon: 1400 Gigabytes, where gigabyte is defined as 1 000 000 000 bytes.  Vs Gibibytes (GiB), where gibibyte is defined as 1024*1024*1024 bytes
[21:14] <snova> kthef: not much of a difference.
[21:14] <mongolai> magnetron:  Decepticon , the Gnome Disk Usage Analyzer is somewhat notorious for giving erroneous readings..
[21:14] <kthef> odd
[21:14] <Curtis> how many updates will ubuntu 8.10 have?
[21:14] <magnetron> mongolai→ not really.
[21:14] <Decepticon> ive got 457GB+459GB+367GB=1283GB
[21:14] <kthef> maybe it is overloading your graphics processor
[21:14] <kthef> maybe a fan on the GPU?
[21:14] <paul68> !8.10 |curtis
[21:15] <snova> kthef: i really have no idea...
[21:15] <Flannel> Decepticon: however, in terminal, df -h, (or just df) will give you a pretty decent readout
[21:15] <mongolai> magnetron:  yes, really. It's showing that I have 146.6 gb out of an 80 gig drive.
[21:15] <snova> kthef: i'm still hoping it isn't a problem with gnome, i think i like it more than kde.
[21:15] <kthef> what ver ubuntu?
[21:15] <magnetron> Decepticon→ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Capacity_measurements
[21:15] <Decepticon> yo guys i just wanna say i think im liking ubuntu, so glad most of my things work out of the box (except a minor problem with my geforce fx 5200), even my wifi is working, and im going to install mythtv now and see if my pvr150 works alright too
[21:15] <snova> 8.04, fully updated
[21:16] <w0ls0n> anyone here running ununtu 7.04 with a GeForce 6200? I cannot seem to get the graphics to go above 800x600. Can someone give me a hand?
[21:16] <Decepticon> i was having a really hard time getting my geforce fx 5200 to work, so i just installed envyng-core with apt-get and let it do whatever... and my stuff now works
[21:17] <snova> still at 156.2 F, 69 C
[21:17] <kthef> I have been running 8.04 for a while, no issues, running on lots of machines as a matter of fact, even a TP61 laptop right now...hehehe
[21:17] <gregory> Hi there
[21:17] <gregory> Sorry to jump in like that, but I really need help
[21:17] <joshritger> does anyone know if there is something wrong with the repos?
[21:17] <xomp> !ask | gregory
[21:17] <guntbert> !ask | gregory
[21:18] <snova> joshritger: what in particular?
[21:18] <dulak> favro: that is working perfectly for me, it goes to a buffering page, then plays the video in-line in firefox
[21:18] <gregory> Thank you
[21:18] <joshritger> nothing seems to be working for me, I have hardy and nothing will load from the repos
[21:18] <favro> dulak: I was worried it was a local issue...
[21:18] <snova> kthef: i'm just going to turn it off for now, maybe try to clean it later.
[21:19] <snova> joshritger: perhaps a bug in sources.list?
[21:19] <dulak> favro: do you see the buffering page?
[21:19] <joshritger> haven't touched the sources list lately
[21:19] <kthef> You might look here:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860830
[21:19] <dulak> favro: this is the url I used to test: http://media.grc.com/files/ss_06_17_98.wmv
[21:19] <favro> dulak: nope - it seems to try then gives up after 1sec
[21:19] <Stormx2> josh__, what do you mean "not working?" could you do a "sudo apt-get update" and post the output?
[21:20] <mongolai> magnetron:  I stand corrected. The issue that *I*'m having with the gnome-disk-usage-analyzer is with redundant additive readings between physical drives and gvfs-fuse. At least I have a more specific bug-report to file. Or not. but thanks for correcting me anyway :)
[21:20] <gregory> So, I just installed Ubuntu 8.04. And I'm a real noob at it, it's my first time. I tried to install my graphic card's drivers from nvidia.com, bue it didn't work. And now that I have "activated" the drivers integrated in Ubuntu, my second screen appears to be the first, and my first screen doesn not receive graphic information.
[21:20] <dulak> favro: you reloaded firefox after you installed the plugin right?
[21:20] <joshritger> stormx2: when I would go to install an app using synaptic it would get to the downloading part and then give me an error saying that the download was not found
[21:20] <favro> dulak: yep - been trying for a few days
[21:20] <magnetron> mongolai→ i didn't know about that bug. have a good night.
[21:20] <Stormx2> josh__, even so, could you do as I asked?
[21:21] <smoovep> Question: Sendmail is trying to send to 127.0.0.1 and messages stay in /var/mail .. is there anyways change this? thnx
[21:21] <joshritger> stormx2: sure
[21:21] <mongolai> magnetron:  perhaps because it's a feature
[21:21] <favro> dulak: have installed anything and everything that could be relevant
[21:21] <favro> I think
[21:21] <Tonno> is there is some channer that people can help me to "how to use Open Office" in spanish?
[21:21] <kthef> Gregory, download and install evny  http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[21:21] <kthef> envy
[21:21] <kthef> hehe
[21:21] <dulak> favro: do this: dpkg -l | grep codec and pastebin it for me
[21:22] <kthef> sudo apt-get install envy
[21:22] <xomp> ibex in 6 days \o/
[21:22]  * xomp goes back to sleep
[21:22] <joshritger> stormx2: E: Method gave invalid 400 URI Failure message
[21:22] <kthef> that is what I have used to install/configure nvidia drivers
[21:22] <Stormx2> joshritger: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[21:22] <gregory> kthef: ok, i'm going to do that. Thank you
[21:23] <kthef> after its installed here is the app to set it:    sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[21:23] <joshritger> stormx2: will do
[21:23] <kthef> then you can do a sudo nvidia-settings to setup the display
[21:23] <kthef> install envy first
[21:23] <Stormx2> xomp, o/
[21:23] <favro> dulak: http://pastebin.ca/1235933
[21:24] <dulak> favro: hmmm, I dont' even have the w32codecs installed and it's working
[21:24] <favro> dulak: I'm giving up for now - thnxs  :)
[21:25] <dulak> favro: sorry I couldn't duplicate it
[21:25] <joshritger> stormx2:http://paste.ubuntu.com/62186/
[21:25] <gregory> kthef: ok I installed envy, and it tells me to launch it, and there's a script that asks me for installing things or restarting X server, and stuff
[21:25] <kthef> yep, that is fine
[21:26] <kthef> it goes out and does all the dl and installing
[21:26] <gregory> oh
[21:26] <gregory> ok wait
[21:26] <Stormx2> joshritger: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. Replace "us." with "" (i.e. nothing). Save. sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <gregory> wow, it detected my exact graphic card version and all
[21:27] <joshritger> stormx2: use the main repos not the us?
[21:27] <kthef> gregory: You might have to reboot or do at least a ctrl+alt+<backspace> to reset
[21:27] <dulak> envy is one of those things that either works perfectly, or it doesn't work at all
[21:27] <mongolai> Stormx2:  is not gksudo suggested for GUI apps instead of regular sudo?
[21:27] <gregory> tells me: Do you want to restart your computer now (Recommended)? (y/n) \ "y" is the default answer
[21:27] <Stormx2> mongolai: yeah, or gksu, but it doesn't seem to matter with gedit
[21:27] <kthef> gregory: yes
[21:28] <gregory> thanks so much, brb
[21:28] <kthef> gregory: np
[21:28] <mongolai> Stormx2:  ahh. OK. perhaps it's more of a pedantic "best practices" kind of deal
[21:29] <xomp> mongolai, I find it rather shallow and pedantic.. mmmyes, shallow and pedantic :)
[21:29] <Stormx2> mongolai: maybe. I don't know
[21:30] <joshritger> stormx2: I get the same error after removing the US
[21:30] <mongolai> xomp:  (Offtopic once) that has to be the Simpsons -- the episode where Homer is a food critic
[21:30] <Stormx2> joshritger: Open up http://us.archive.ubuntu.com in your web browser. Does it work?
[21:30] <xomp> mongolai, close :P It was Family Guy :)
[21:31]  * mongolai has my bad...
[21:31] <joshritger> stormx2: yes
[21:31] <gregory> kthef: it didn't work, i guess
[21:31] <Stormx2> joshritger: For the heck of it, use a different mirror. use ca. or uk. or something
[21:32] <Decepticon> what is the package for vim
[21:32] <joshritger> stormx2: both ways with or without the us works in the browser
[21:32] <Stormx2> joshritger: What about downloading a package from inside the browser?
[21:32] <joshritger> hmm, will try
[21:32] <gregory> I'd like to change my display to my other screen. Does it have anything to do with my CG drivers?
[21:32] <j0nr> hey all
[21:32] <Decepticon> what is the package for vim
[21:32] <j0nr> anyone use gtkpod?
[21:33] <DIFH-iceroot> Decepticon: vim
[21:33] <ay^> j0nr: I have used it a few times
[21:33] <kthef> gregory: run the sudo nvidia-settings program
[21:33] <kthef> they call it something weird
[21:33] <j0nr> ay^: can you tell me what the check boxes next to the tracks mean?
[21:33] <ay^> j0nr: nope :)
[21:33] <TJ-42> in windows there was a performance benefit of putting on separate hard drives: the operating system, the paging file, and the applications.  Is that true in ubuntu?
[21:33] <gregory> Alright!
[21:33] <Varth> I'm running 8.10 beta, and my wifi died after the newest update. Can anyone help me out?
[21:34] <joshritger> stormx2: not sure what to try to download, if you can give me a link I will try it
[21:34] <j0nr> ay^: doh. cant figure out what they mean
[21:34] <mongolai> TJ-42:  unless you have a lack of RAM, no, not really per se...
[21:34] <ay^> j0nr: isn't there any help or something? I only used it to uppload songs on my wifes sisters ipod 3 times.
[21:35] <TJ-42> so the swap file in ubuntu isn't utilized all of the time like the windows page file (this seemed to be used even when not out of ram)?
[21:35] <gregory> Thank you so very much. It worked!
[21:35] <Stormx2> joshritger: Any package. You don't have to install it.
[21:35] <joshritger> ok
[21:35] <kthef> gregory: cool!
[21:35] <mongolai> TJ-42:  there is some anecdotal evidence that having the swap partition on certain parts on the HDD, or even oh the outer edge of a second HDD can improve performance, but that has been antiquated by the prevalence of cheap RAM
[21:36] <gregory> kthef: is there any kinf of a list of these command lines for me to remember it? Or do I just have to write them down?
[21:36] <TJ-42> mongolai: OK thank you.
[21:36] <xomp> anyone know of any software for people looking to make guitar tabs of songs? a program that can identify notes and display them for easy tablature?
[21:36] <mongolai> TJ-42:  yea, it's easier to get more RAM (to a point) and just use that
[21:36] <kthef> you can go to a terminal window and type sudo nvid  and then a couple of tab key hits and it will list all commands starting with nvid
[21:37] <kthef> gregory: otherwise, just commit to memory...hehehe
[21:37] <gregory> Ok. Thank you again.
[21:37] <kthef> np
[21:37] <julian> anoyone have experience opening .arc files
[21:37] <Varth> I'm running 8.10 beta, and my wifi died after the newest update. Can anyone help me out?
[21:38] <DIFH-iceroot> Varth: #ubuntu+1
[21:38] <zume> Ahhh, Konversation is so much easier than Xchat
[21:39] <Sonja> yeah i like konversation too
[21:39] <jhekasoft> Hello
[21:39] <forestpixie> hi jhekasoft
[21:39] <Sonja> my /boot directory only has 4 MB free. it's causing problems with updates. how do i clean up some space in there?
[21:40] <Sonja> the friend who installed ubuntu on my machine created a separate partition for /boot but it's too small i think
[21:40] <jhekasoft> I'm student.
[21:40] <Sonja> can i make the partition bigger without risking any bad stuff happening?
[21:40] <Flannel> Sonja: Remove old kernels through package management
[21:40] <Flannel> Sonja: first off, how big it in total? (du -h)
[21:40] <Sonja> i think it's 100 MB
[21:41] <shipwrecked> hi, I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with a question?
[21:41] <mbassan> hey, can anybody tell me how to switch keyboard layouts
[21:41] <Sonja> how do i open package management in terminal?
[21:41] <mongolai> shipwrecked:  just ask the question?
[21:41] <jhekasoft> \list
[21:41] <ay^> Sonja: sudo aptitude
[21:41] <Flannel> Sonja: aptitude will be an ncurses GUI thing, or you can use apt-get
[21:41] <scientus> how do i make nfs faster?
[21:42] <c0mp13371331337> Sonja: You'll need to use a live-CD to do that.  Resizing a partition cannot be performed if the partition is mounted.
[21:42] <quibbler> julian:Archive Manager
[21:42] <Sonja> sudo aptitude
[21:42] <Sonja> oops
[21:42] <Flannel> Sonja: the kernel packages are linux-image-*
[21:42] <scientus> even file listing, async wont help that
[21:42] <shipwrecked> I wanted to try to switch to ubuntu but I use Sprint Wireless Broadband for internet and can't find anything on if the usb evdo card or even the broadband service is supported
[21:42] <Flannel> Sonja: you want to keep your most recent one, and probably one older known-good one.
[21:43] <Sonja> once i open sudo aptitude how do i remove all older ones? where do i navigate under?
[21:43] <apadox> can someone help me with connecting my wireless card with my router?
[21:43] <mbassan> apadox: what's the problem with the card?
[21:44] <apadox> it is intel 2200BG ... can't connect to router .. and neither my cable works .. i tried this for more info http://pastebin.com/m7efc6312
[21:44] <Decepticon> i installed samba, and edited smb.conf and restartated samba, when i try to access the shares from another compouter im asked for a username/pass, and i entered the password for my username on the share hosting computer.... but no access? how do i do it, i think you use some program to set passwords on the host computer, what is it called?
[21:44] <mbassan> does it detect networks?
[21:44] <Rideh_> how can i mount a usb hd from cli?
[21:44] <Flannel> shipwrecked: Ubuntu 8.10 is being released next week, and it provides support for those cards.  In the meantime, you might ask in #ubuntu+1 if that particular card is supported, etc.
[21:44] <Decepticon> anyonme have any idea what you're supposed to do with samba to get it working initially
[21:44] <kthef> apadox: start by turning off encryption on your router, that makes troubleshooting a lot easier...when you get it connected without WEP, then go for the wep.
[21:44] <Flannel> login as:
[21:44] <Flannel> !samba | Decepticon
[21:45] <kthef> Decepticon:  configure /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:45] <ay^> Rideh_: sudo mount /dev/NAME /path/to/mountpoint
[21:45] <joshritger> stormx2: I tried downloading something and it appears that there is nothign to download, I also restarted and then ran the sudo apt-get update and same error
[21:45] <apadox> kthef i tried .. then it connects but I still can't ping my router .. in connection info i get all blank
[21:45] <Rideh_> ay^: kk couldnt find the device in dev
[21:45] <shipwrecked> Flannel: thanks a lot
[21:45] <Sonja> ay^ in sudo aptitude, do i haev to go under "installed packages" and then under something else? or ?
[21:45] <kthef> apadox: it is connecting to your router?
[21:46] <ay^> Sonja: You can search for th epackage you want to see by typing "/"
[21:46] <kthef> apadox: go to term window and type ifconfig and see if the wlan interface has an IP address
[21:46] <apadox> kthef it doens't
[21:46] <shoryuken> rk
[21:46] <apadox> i checked in GUI
[21:46] <arpegius> join #drupal
[21:46] <kthef> apadox:  forget gui
[21:46]  * arpegius fails join
[21:46] <kthef> do it in term window
[21:46] <zume> Can someone help me with Kmouth. The KTTSD (i guess thats the kmouth manager) keeps crashing, and before I couldn't ever get it to speak text.
[21:46] <kthef> apadox:
[21:47] <Flannel> zume: You might have more luck in #kubuntu
[21:47] <prof_1> Hello I'm have a problem with getting my floppy to read aand write . I sure need someone who can help to do this.
[21:47] <zume> Flannel, thank you. I'm running Ubuntu, but I'll give that room a shot.
[21:47] <Stormx2> joshritger, did you try using a canadian mirror?
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: you can find the device name by doing "sudo fdisk -l" (lowercase L)
[21:47] <kthef> apadox: after it is connected, you can try:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[21:47] <apadox> ok
[21:47] <joshritger> stormx2: yes I have tried a canadian mirror
[21:47] <kthef> apadox: to see if it will do a dhcp get
[21:48] <prof_1> I've follow some on line stuff but nothing seems to be working for me?
[21:48] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: ty, been a minute
[21:48] <Stormx2> joshritger: I'm out of ideas :/
[21:48] <Flannel> zume: They'll be more familiar with the KDE stuffs, regardless of your main flavor
[21:48] <joshritger> stormx2: ok, I hope this is just an outage and not my comp, never had this problem b4
[21:48] <apadox> kthef i go restart
[21:48] <apadox> so brb
[21:48] <kthef> apadox: ok
[21:48] <zume> Flannel, any other Ubuntu related rooms out there?
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: it should tell you hwere in /dev/ your usb drive is located. usually, it is /dev/sdb1 though...
[21:48] <Rideh_> yea i found it
[21:49] <Stormx2> joshritger: I guess it's an outage. Might be worth reseting your router? I don't know
[21:49] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: whats the mount option for ntfs?
[21:49] <Rideh_>  sudo mount ntfs /device /point ?
[21:49] <Stormx2> !ntfs | Rideh_
[21:49] <Flannel> zume: there's a whooole bunch.  But #ubuntu, #kubuntu, and #xubuntu are the main support ones.
[21:49] <tesseract85> hey room
[21:49] <Stormx2> hi tesseract85
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt should do it...
[21:50] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: its ntfs formated
[21:50] <Rideh_> and doesnt have an entry in fstab
[21:51] <prof_1> Is there a wayt to get the floppy to work ? I used df /mnt/floppy but it caomes back with sda1 not fdo?
[21:51] <kansan> if i blew away the .meatdata directory in a workspace in eclipse ganymede; why is it still complaining that the workspace in use?
[21:51] <julian> tried archivemanager but it wont open it
[21:52] <prof_1> Can someone help me with fixing my floppy it is not working!!!
[21:52] <julian> archive not supported
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[21:52] <prof_1> or give me a good resource to follow?
[21:52] <zume> Anyone know of a Google IRC room, hopefully for Ubuntu/Gnome?
[21:53] <SPhcT> can i install Java on ubuntu when it going on live cd?
[21:53] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: the problem with mounting as root, is that you can only write to the drive as root...
[21:53] <prof_1> Does anyone know one? :)
[21:53] <quibbler> julian: try arc in Synaptic
[21:53] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: thts fine i'm just backing up a external hd b4 iw ipe it
[21:53] <apaodx> kthef can you repeat what to enter .. i forgot to write it down :) wireless card guy
[21:53] <csilk> virtualbox issue fixed
[21:54] <csilk> it installed a new kernel image without me knowing -_-
[21:54] <quibbler> julian: or winrar + wine
[21:54] <grendal_prime> whats the name of the compiz plugin that allows you to move your cursor to the side of the screen, and iconize all your running apps into the middle of the screen so you can choose the one you want?
[21:54] <julian> winrar wont do it
[21:54] <kthef> apadox: is it connected to your router?
[21:54] <julian> im beginning to think that the files are corrupted
[21:54] <apaodx> kthef I am in windows now
[21:54] <apaodx> i have to reboot to do it
[21:54] <kthef> apadox: ok
[21:54] <kthef> apadox: after it is connected, you can try:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[21:54] <apaodx> it connects if there is no encription in roaming mode
[21:55] <kthef> apadox: you need to find out what YOUR interface is called
[21:55] <SPhcT> can i install Java on ubuntu when it going on live cd?
[21:55] <kthef> apadox: go to term window and type ifconfig and see if the wlan interface has an IP address
[21:55] <apaodx> brb
[21:55] <kthef> apadox: it might be called wlanX  the X being a number
[21:55] <rccsoft2001> hello everybody
[21:56] <rccsoft2001> any use mldonkey??
[21:56] <bid5> ﻿Is there a Linux-App i can use to track the hours i spend on a project? Something like a stopwatch that i can start when i begin work and stop when i'm done and leave a comment what i've done.
[21:56] <apaodx> kthef could it be ethX ?
[21:56] <apaodx> i know i have two eth
[21:56] <dougb1> do any of you have an opinion of the best e-mail client for ubuntu?  i'm running 8.10 at the moment
[21:56] <joshritger> stormx2: seems to be working now, I disabled any third party source and it seems to work
[21:56] <impulze_> hm is it the fault of the dhcpd or dhclient that the ntp-servers are in IP form instead of the dhcpd.conf specified hostname?
[21:57] <kthef> apadox: it might be
[21:57] <quibbler> julian did you look for arc in Synaptic?
[21:57] <bid5> dougb1: I'm using Thunderbird, cause i know it from windows...
[21:57] <apaodx> ok .. see you brb restart
[21:57] <kthef> apadox: or you should have 2 interfaces
[21:57] <kthef> apadox: eth0 and eth1
[21:57] <thethirdmoose> When I go to school, I leave Ubuntu logged in with the screen locked. When I leave, I'm logged out. Why?
[21:57] <kthef> apadox: the latter would hopefully be the wireless
[21:57] <julian> il brb
[21:57] <kthef> kthef adf
[21:57] <kthef> kthef: asdf
[21:58] <SPhcT> can i install JAVA using Ubuntu live cd??
[21:58] <csilk> thethirdmoose, cos your mother doesn't want you running up the electric bill and melting the icecaps :D
[21:58] <zume> Anyone know what Kmouth Text-To-Speech means when it asks for a file called "Command For Speaking Texts"?
[21:58] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: got it, i had to force it cuz it wasnt cleanly unmounted
[21:58] <thethirdmoose> csilk: That's an interesting suggestion
[21:58] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: yeah, that happens sometimes...
[21:59] <StucKman> hi all. anyone running feisty that has virtualbox installed from official .debs?
[21:59] <csilk> thethirdmoose, I'm not joking, i wouldnt be surprised if she hits the power button once and your machine re-boots
[21:59] <SPhcT> can i install JAVA using Ubuntu live cd?? and how can i do it?
[21:59] <csilk> SPhcT, add/remove programs, look for search for java
[21:59] <csilk> *search
[21:59] <SPhcT> cant find
[22:00] <csilk> SPhcT,   ok  terminal> sudo apt-get update
[22:00] <csilk> then
[22:00] <csilk> sudo apt-get sun-java6
[22:00] <csilk> ** sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[22:00] <mongolai> zume:  no real luck on the TTS front, then eh? Perhaps KMouth is asking for a "kommand" for the screen reader?
[22:00] <xah_lee> is ubuntu avail for Apple's g5 machine?
[22:01] <mongolai> xah_lee:  if there is a PPC
[22:01] <thepeon> What command can I run to find out the make/model of my nic?
[22:01] <zume> mongolai: yea im reading through google to find out what it means.
[22:01] <xah_lee> monyes it's PPC.
[22:01] <kthef> thepeon:  sudo lshw
[22:01] <kthef> will show all hardware
[22:02] <kthef> thepeon:  make sure your terminal window is set to about 1000 lines of buffer space
[22:02] <thepeon> kthef: Thanks
[22:03] <kiopes> or send the output to a file ;) use the "> filename" for that...
[22:03] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: is there a easy command to determine the rate that something is copying files?
[22:03] <Odd-rationale> Rideh_: well, you could ues cp with the -v switch...
[22:03] <mongolai> thepeon:  also, lspci | grep Ethernet
[22:03] <Odd-rationale> it will tell you what files are copying.
[22:03] <Rideh_> Odd-rationale: :P i could have
[22:03] <kthef> thepeon: sudo lshw | grep network -A10
[22:04] <Decepticon> how do i get thumbnails on my movies. im seeing generic icons instead of preview thumbnails
[22:04] <mongolai> Decepticon:  there is probably a setting limiting thumbs to smaller files...
[22:04] <Decepticon> ive set it to 1gb
[22:04] <Decepticon> and always
[22:04] <mongolai> Decepticon:  ... just a sec
[22:04] <Decepticon> always preview
[22:04] <Decepticon> but its not working
[22:04] <poorboy-> has any got component video out using the xorg-intel drivers ?
[22:04] <FloodBot2> Decepticon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <poorboy-> where can I find documentation on the xorg-intel drivers for xorg.conf settings
[22:05] <thepeon> Thanks guys, If my NIC is listed with a driver, I should work, correct?
[22:05] <kiopes> What are you using for the file manager? - Most by default will show thumbnails, also you need the codecs of course
[22:05] <mongolai> kiopes:  Decepticon  that's correct..
[22:05] <Decepticon> ohhh yes
[22:05] <Decepticon> i probably need codecs
[22:06] <Decepticon> but still, i have a lotta movies, they all cant require codecs
[22:06] <Decepticon> im using nautilus
[22:06] <teratoma> http://slate.com/id/2202664/
[22:06] <kthef> thepeon: I would think so, but I am not a driver xpert...
[22:06] <kthef> hehe
[22:06] <mongolai> Decepticon:  there is a file size limit by default, i think. You probably need to re-size that
[22:06] <Decepticon> i reset that file size limit to 1GB
[22:06] <Decepticon> my files are 1GB or less
[22:07] <mongolai> Decepticon:  ...in addition to the codecs that kiopes suggested. Even with 1gb or less files, gnome might need some hand-holding
[22:07] <kthefx> kthef: asdf
[22:08] <Decepticon> mongolai take a look at http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9379/screenshot005yj2.png
[22:08] <Decepticon> i got these generic looking icons
[22:08] <mongolai> Decepticon:  just a sec
[22:08] <Decepticon> and look at my settings
[22:09] <Decepticon> ok ill just try something with codecs
[22:09] <mongolai> Decepticon:  looks good. Nice weather, thoug. Probably a codes thing
[22:09] <Decepticon> ahah
[22:09] <axold> hi all
[22:09] <Decepticon> thanks mongolai
[22:09] <quibbler> axold:hello
[22:10] <mongolai> Decepticon:  those are all local files on your hdd, right?
[22:10] <Decepticon> those are on other hdds... so i guess theyre not external
[22:10] <Decepticon> even then, ive set it to always show
[22:10] <Decepticon> *internal
[22:11] <Decepticon> mongolai ok i got some previews...
[22:11] <Decepticon> guess it had to do with codecs...
[22:11] <Decepticon> but now i have another problem
[22:11] <mrrcp> question.... How do i format a 2nd hard drive i have installed? it will not let me access some files
[22:12] <mongolai> Decepticon: what's the problem
[22:12] <thethirdmoose> How do I check recent logoff times?
[22:12] <ferfactor> anybody here has STATA program for Linux???
[22:12] <kthef> mrrcp: don't format, just do a chown or chmod on them
[22:12] <Decepticon> the movies with generic icons, have those generic icons stuck now, and i cannot refresh them to get a thumbnail... unlike other dirs i havent dove into and looked at videos in nautlius at, they generate previews and do not give generic icons... i want to get rid of the geneeric for the files ive looked
[22:12] <mrrcp> well it was a partion i hard on another linux
[22:13] <kthef> mrrcp:   so you don't care about the data?
[22:13] <mrrcp> debian setup that is...
[22:13] <mrrcp> nope
[22:13] <Azzmodan> Decepticon, maybe they use a different codec that you don't have installed for gstreamer?
[22:13] <mongolai> Decepticon:  Did you give the browser window a chance to generate the thumb?
[22:13] <mrrcp> i just used the quick setup for ubuntu and it did not format that hard drive
[22:13] <kthef> mrrcp:  ok,  sudo mkfs   /dev/harddrive_partition
[22:13] <Decepticon> maybe i have to reset nautilus?
[22:13] <thethirdmoose> How do I check the last time I logged out?
[22:13] <kthef> mrrcp:  so if the drive/partition is hda1  I would do sudo mkfs /dev/hda1
[22:14] <alexi5> what benefits would a quad core cpu provide for a developer (web,network apps,database apps,etc ...)
[22:14] <verdant> alexi5: quad core has major benefits
[22:15] <mrrcp> hmm
[22:15] <Azzmodan> Depends on how much shit you tend to run at the same time that likes to use CPU
[22:15] <mrrcp> how can i tell what the names are
[22:15] <verdant> alexi5: i can run the requires windoze xp + vs 2008 + outlook under vmware off a nother partition
[22:15] <luite_> alexi5: better testing of how good your apps scale... (and probably some compilation speedups, but those won't matter much unless you develop huge projects)
[22:15] <kthef> mrrcp:  sudo fdisk -l   that is a lower case L for list
[22:15] <verdant> alexi5: with no slowdown, plus as many apps and windows as I please
[22:15] <kthef> mrrcp:  then try and decode which one is the right size
[22:16] <alexi5> ok
[22:16] <rycar> how do I get that smallest possible ubuntu install for a virtual machine?  I pretty much want a clean slate that I can use apt to expand from.
[22:16] <kthef> mrrcp:  you will have to sudo umount /dev/hda1 first
[22:16] <mrrcp> hmm it didnt let me set a root user passwd at setup
[22:16] <thethirdmoose> Is there a way to check the last logout time>
[22:16] <thethirdmoose> ?
[22:16] <mongolai> rycar:  look into ubuntu Jeos
[22:16] <alexi5> so if i use virtual machines to test apps at once in multiple virtual environments quad core is excellent for that ?
[22:16] <verdant> rycar: ubuntu jeos http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[22:16] <kthef> mrrcp:  you in a live cd?
[22:16]  * snoop_ a
[22:17] <mrrcp> i used the cd off the site
[22:17] <kthef> mrrcp:  ah, so your prompt starts with a #?
[22:17] <verdant> alexi5: yes quad core is good for multiple vms, but you start to run into i/o bandwidth unless you have a SCSI disk
[22:17] <rycar> thanks
[22:17] <alexi5> ok
[22:18] <hosed> Hi, question. My laptop freezes at the bios splash screen, I have a dell and it just wont allow me to go to a boot menu or to bios setup or anything, its just frozen there. any ideas whats wrong?
[22:18] <kthef> mrrcp:  did you install from the CD? or are you running a live CD?
[22:18] <prof_1> Hello is there someone who can help me with a floppy that just wont work?
[22:18] <verdant> alexi5: if you are testing enterprise-scale apps, you'll also want 8G RAM... I'm finding that 4G doesn't quite handle major search engines and IBM stuff
[22:18] <mrrcp> im using gnome now logged in
[22:18] <Decepticon> mongolai i got it
[22:18] <Decepticon> mongolai i deleted ~/.thumbnails/ and now im getting fresh previews
[22:19] <mongolai> hosed:  if it's at the BIOS screen, then you need to take it up with the manufacturer
[22:19] <kthef> mrrcp:  yes, but is it from a live cd that you booted from? or is it an install?
[22:19] <mrrcp> su -  and my password doesnt work
[22:19] <mrrcp> install
[22:19] <Sonja> i went in /boot and deleted a bunch of stuff i maybe wasn't supposed to, and now i can't boot into ubuntu anymore. is there any way to fix it from my windows drive?
[22:19] <kthef> mrrcp:  try no password
[22:19] <pepperjack> hosed: id look at flashing the bios maybe ask in #hardware
[22:19] <zume> Anyone know how to make sense of this Festivle TextToSpeech program? Here it is http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/download.html    but its lots of little files that I dont know what to do with.
[22:19] <mrrcp> no worky
[22:19] <verdant> Sonja: try the livecd
[22:19] <mongolai> Decepticon:  cool beans. Do the previews work?
[22:19] <pepperjack> hosed: could be memory etc too
[22:19] <mrrcp> fdisk -l  doesnt show anything
[22:19] <Decepticon> oh by previews i meant, thumbnails
[22:19] <kthef> mrrcp:  it won't unless you are sudo
[22:19] <thethirdmoose> How do I check recent logouts on my computer?
[22:19] <Decepticon> you can do little preview windows with gnome??
[22:20] <kthef> mrrcp:  you should use the same password you use to login to your desktop
[22:20] <alexi5> verdant: so far i have 4GB. are the phenoms that bad as the different site reviews say they are ?
[22:20] <pepperjack> thethirdmoose: `last`
[22:20] <mongolai> Decepticon:  Ahh, but do the previews work? Hover the mouse over the thumb for a little while
[22:20] <zume> mongolai: any tips on getting festivle to work?
[22:20] <kthef> mrrcp:  so if I log into my computer as joe with password asdf, then you do a sudo fdisk -l  then use asdf for the su password
[22:20] <IceGuest_75> Anyone want to help someone new to Linux on how to get it to work in a parrallel?
[22:20] <thethirdmoose> pepperjack: So the second time is the logout?
[22:20] <verdant> alexi5: don't know about the phenoms, but the Intel Xeon's are pretty hardcore
[22:20] <mongolai> zume:  I never did get that to work... sorry :(
[22:20] <Decepticon> mongolai i dont think i have that gnome feature
[22:21] <Sonja> verdant is there a function in livecd to repair the /boot drive ?
[22:21] <alexi5> ok
[22:21] <pepperjack> thethirdmoose: should be both in and out yeah
[22:21] <verdant> Sonja: it may let you reinstall the kernel and grub, which will put back the /boot files....
[22:22] <mongolai> Decepticon:  I swear that worked for me one time, but now It doesn't. Oh well, It really wasn't that neat anyway
[22:22] <Decepticon> hah
[22:22] <csilk> whats the disk analyser called?
[22:22] <zume> mongolai: Lol why does Festivle exist if real people cant use it. :P Although, the site I got it from has a place to enter text, and it speaks the text online. It seems pretty good for free TTS.
[22:22] <Decepticon> disk usage analyzer
[22:23] <Sonja> verdant and reinstalling the kernel and grub wouldn't damage my installed programs and /home if /boot is a separate partition?
[22:23] <mongolai> zume:  remember when I mentioned something about the state of TTS in linux being somewhat "behind"
[22:23] <gregory> Tell me... Is it ok, if I have Ubuntu installed right now on a drive, to install xp on another drive? Will the MBR be ok?
[22:23] <apadox> kthef i am online on ubuntu now .. over wireless .. :) thx
[22:23] <csilk> i cant find the disk analyser???
[22:24] <zume> mongolai: more behind than an elephants postior. gotta go for now..
[22:24] <mongolai> zume:  this is a perfect example... I really wish these things just worked,,,
[22:24] <pepperjack> gregory: i think xp will overwrite the mbr of the master but not sure
[22:24] <kthef> apadox: Solid!
[22:24] <csilk> ahh got it
[22:24] <mongolai> zume, take care for now
[22:24] <epl> Hi, can someone tell me why there is no toshiba acpi driver in the intrepid kernel package?
[22:24] <ompaul> csilk, disk analyser? sudo fdisk -l or gksu gparted  or something else?
[22:24] <IceGuest_75> Anyone want to help someone new to Linux on how to get it to work in a parrallel?
[22:24] <pepperjack> gregory: id expect it to just overwrite mbr of the hd its installed to so prob ok i guess
[22:24] <apadox> kthef can I do something now to keep it this way without doing same thing every time :D
[22:25] <verdant> Sonja: no it would not damage.  However, you need to mount your / partition under /mnt/root and chroot into it, then mount /boot, then you can "apt-get --reinstall install ...
[22:25] <IceGuest_75> Parallels Workstation, Ubuntu system,Error msg: ACPI:  no DMI BIOS year, acpi=force is required to enable acpi
[22:25] <verdant> Sonja: or use aptitude to do the reinstalling of kernel and grub
[22:25] <csilk> Omikane,  I found it, i was having a blind moment
[22:25] <maximilian-schro> hey everybody. i have a question about upgrading. i want to try intrepid but before this i want to make an complete image of my system. does anybody have a good how-to for creating such an image and restoring it (just in case i will need it)
[22:26] <Sonja> verdant ahh
[22:26] <kthef> apadox: go into /etc/network/interfaces and copy the wired connection settings with that interface you need to have dhcp
[22:26] <kthef> apadox: sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces
[22:26] <ballzee_> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 and it seems so slow connecting to some stuff im trying an apt-get update and its taking more than 10 min to get threw the servers and i cant connect to xchat.org anyone else have that trouble ?
[22:27] <Cluny> a problem with netscape wrapper, I installed it but I can't use it in the command
[22:27] <apadox> kthef now what?
[22:27] <ompaul> ballzee_, go to #ubuntu+1 for chat about 8.10 that is what it is there for
[22:27] <droopsta915> imy computer wont detect my flash drive? what can i do?
[22:27] <pepperjack> ballzee_: maybe do a `dig google.com` then gksu /etc/resolv.conf and see if you have more than one nameserver if so try removing the one not shown in the dig or something. could be ipv6 i guess too
[22:27] <rparish> hello
[22:28] <pepperjack> ballzee_: er gksu gedit /etc/resolv.conf i mean
[22:28] <VladimirLV> Hello!
[22:28] <mrrcp> mkfs.ext2: Device size reported to be zero.  Invalid partition specified, or
[22:28] <mrrcp> 	partition table wasn't reread after running fdisk, due to
[22:28] <mrrcp> 	a modified partition being busy and in use.  You may need to reboot
[22:28] <mrrcp> 	to re-read your partition table.
[22:28] <FloodBot2> mrrcp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <ballzee_> thanks
[22:28] <mrrcp> whats this mean
[22:28] <VladimirLV> How i can clear all temporary data and some not used files? (on ubuntu server edition)
[22:28] <Sonja> thanks verdant
[22:28] <kthef> apadox: copy the section with your wired connection and change the eth0 to whatever the name of your wireless card is
[22:28] <droopsta915> VladimirLV: you mean internet files?
[22:29] <VladimirLV> droopsta915: no, all not needed files. some install archives.. or.. i dont know..
[22:29] <graingert> VladimirLV: can you repeat the question?
[22:29] <mrrcp> so since it wont let format it what shall i do
[22:29] <droopsta915> ? sorry I dont understand
[22:30] <apadox> kthef so it is auto eth1 now
[22:30] <ballzee_> 1 name server two times its there
[22:30] <leagris> Hello, latest hardy upgrade killed firefox french locale. How is it fixed?
[22:30] <droopsta915> I cant get my flash drive to work? I just bought it 30min ago.
[22:30] <julian> i tried to open .arc file with archive manager and no luck
[22:30] <liquid> Hello All
[22:31] <graingert> droopsta915: what brand?
[22:31] <droopsta915> graingert: micro center 8gb flash drive
[22:31] <VladimirLV> graingert: <VladimirLV> How i can clear all temporary data and some not used files? (on ubuntu server edition)
[22:32] <liquid> Im trying to install libtorrent and it keeps asking for ssl libraries and I cant find them in aptiture
[22:32] <x_dimitri> what package to I need to install to get the "iptables-xml" tool?
[22:32] <graingert> VladimirLV: rm everything in /tmp?
[22:32] <graingert> VladimirLV: not a good idea though
[22:32] <kthef> auto eth1
[22:32] <kthef> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[22:32] <quibbler> julian: did you install arc from Synaptic?
[22:32] <kthef> apadox: auto eth1
[22:32] <kthef> iface eth1 inet
[22:33] <liquid> Where could I find ssl lib?
[22:33] <graingert> droopsta915: what happens when you plug it in?
[22:33] <graingert> liquid: youse getlibs
[22:33] <apadox> kthef thx :)
[22:33] <liquid> graingert: whats getlibs
[22:33] <liquid> graingert: Im new to linux
[22:33] <leagris> Hello, latest hardy upgrade killed firefox french locale. How is it fixed?
[22:33] <vlt> Hello. `ffmpeg -acodec libfaac` says "Unknown codec 'libfaac'". The pkg libfaac0 is installed. ffmpeg's version is "3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7.1+medibuntu1". Any idea what's missing?
[22:34] <graingert> liquid: what is your achitecture?
[22:34] <kbrosnan> leagris: killed?
[22:34] <kthef> Talk at yall later!
[22:34] <droopsta915> graingert: I see the lights on the flash drive go on and thats it. I tried my old flash drive and it detects that one.
[22:34] <liquid> graingert: Its i686
[22:34] <liquid> graingert: not x64
[22:35] <graingert> liquid: ok have you tried installing via apt?
[22:35] <graingert> liquid: run "apt-cache search libssl"
[22:35] <leagris> kbrosnan, the package for french translation of firefox got removed because of missing from repos. This is aeveral days ago and the missing translation was not added or fixed
[22:35] <liquid> graingert: apt-get no I havent
[22:35] <leagris> kbrosnan, I even checked the main repositories and it is not there
[22:35] <ballzee_> domain myhome.westell.com
[22:35] <ballzee_> search myhome.westell.com
[22:35] <ballzee_> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[22:35] <graingert> droopsta915: is it detected with lsusb?
[22:35] <ballzee_> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[22:35] <FloodBot2> ballzee_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <liquid> graingert: I found it libssl-dev
[22:36] <droopsta915> graingert: im not sure.
[22:36] <liquid> graingert: Whats the diff. between aptiture and apt-get?
[22:36] <ballzee_> sorry
[22:36] <ballzee_> does that seem right ?
[22:36] <MothOnLovesFlame> could anyone tell me how to run a .sh file?
[22:36] <quibbler> julian: arc you use from the terminal type man arc or arc -h for help
[22:36] <kbrosnan> MothOnLovesFlame: ./nameoffile.sh
[22:37] <mongolai> liquid:  re-ask that and also include aptitude, please
[22:37] <graingert> liquid: run "aptitude" and you will see it's a synaptic like terminal gui
[22:37] <MothOnLovesFlame> kbrosnan: thats what i did
[22:37] <boswe> what's the best way to play wmv files?
[22:37] <liquid> graingert: I saw that its okay I was using apt-get and somebody on here told me aptitude is better
[22:38] <quibbler> boswe: vlc
[22:38] <kbrosnan> MothOnLovesFlame: ls -l and pastebin the output, i suspect that the file is not set to be able to be run
[22:38] <boswe> quibbler, other than vlc, with vlc it doesn't show that good
[22:38] <droopsta915> how can i see the lsusb?
[22:38] <graingert> droopsta915: run "lsusb"
[22:38] <ballzee_> what should my /etc/resolv.conf   look like ?
[22:39] <Fjss> Will update manager automatically update my kernel to the newest release?
[22:39] <Mac_Taylor> how is ubuntu with 1+million files?
[22:39] <mongolai> Fjss:  it will update it to the newest ubuntu release
[22:40] <Fjss> So 2.6.24-21 is the newest?
[22:40] <nikola> help
[22:40] <mongolai> Fjss:  I mean the update manager will update the kernel to the latest kernel that is in the ubuntu repositories, and unless you know differently, that's the one to get
[22:41] <graingert> droopsta915: is that working?
[22:41] <n8tuser> Mac_Taylor-> its okay i guess, are they on one same filesystem?
[22:41] <MothOnLovesFlame> xxx@xxx-xxx:~/Freenet/downloads/Frost$ frost.sh
[22:41] <MothOnLovesFlame> bash: frost.sh: command not found
[22:41] <Pulpie_> hey so I start up my ubuntu live cd
[22:41] <Pulpie_> but the image is all glitched
[22:41] <Fjss> mongolai:thx
[22:41] <mongolai> Fjss:  that's the kernel I have -- 2.6.24-21
[22:41] <Pulpie_> it looks like lines
[22:41] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> reboot and do it again
[22:41] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: i have tried
[22:41] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: twice
[22:42] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> try for a 3rd?
[22:42] <MothOnLovesFlame> kbrosnan:
[22:42] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: im trying it on another computer to make sure its not just the laptop
[22:42] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> or you can try a  display=vga
[22:42] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: how do i do this?
[22:42] <MothOnLovesFlame> kbrosnan: xxx@xxx-xxx:~/Freenet/downloads/Frost$ frost.sh
[22:42] <MothOnLovesFlame> bash: frost.sh: command not found
[22:42] <droopsta915> graingert: i dont know how to run lsusb
[22:43] <graingert> droopsta915: go into terminal and run "lsusb"
[22:43] <nikola> ou sont les chat francais?
[22:43] <kbrosnan> MothOnLovesFlame: needed the stuf at the start of the line
[22:43] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> press esc to get into grub
[22:43] <ompaul> !fr | nikola
[22:43] <nikola> merci
[22:43] <mongolai> MothOnLovesFlame:  I dunno what you are doing, but try ./frost.sh
[22:43] <ompaul> MothOnLovesFlame,      sh ./scriptnamegoeshere
[22:43] <droopsta915> graingert: lol, my bad, I was trying ./lsusb.
[22:43] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> or maybe hit F4 when booting
[22:44] <mongolai> MothOnLovesFlame:  you need the proceeding ./ if it's in your home dir, or somewhere besides the system dirs
[22:44] <droopsta915> graingert: i dont know how to run lsusb
[22:45] <droopsta915> graingert: sorry, i got it, now what
[22:45] <graingert> droopsta915: put it into a pastebin of your own choice?
[22:45] <engemec> hello
[22:45] <kbrosnan> MothOnLovesFlame: like -rwxr--r--  1 name group       64 2006-05-09 01:40 example.txt
[22:46] <MothOnLovesFlame> thanks ompaul
[22:46] <graingert> engemec: hello
[22:46] <graingert> droopsta915: and link us also
[22:46] <ompaul> MothOnLovesFlame,
[22:46] <ompaul> MothOnLovesFlame,  np
[22:47] <davidnog> hello
[22:47] <MothOnLovesFlame> thank you kbrosnan for trying to help
[22:47] <droopsta915> graingert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62208/
[22:47] <quibbler> boswe:realplayer - mplayer what have you tried?
[22:47] <ReAn> having a problem
[22:47] <boswe> quibbler, I've tried mplayer and vlc the quality isn't that good
[22:48] <ReAn> every time i type " in my ubuntu install nothing shows up, when i type "" only " shows up, but my files have invalid characters in them now
[22:48] <ReAn> i assume i screwed something up
[22:48] <boswe> quibbler, is there a way to use maybe files from windows directory with vlc or mplayer to decode the .wmvs?
[22:48] <ReAn> sound fammiliar to anyone?
[22:48] <droopsta915> graingert: (transcend information, inc) this looks like the flash drive
[22:48] <graingert> droopsta915: ah ok
[22:49] <quibbler> boswe: I just tried it with realplayer and it work fine for me, but then I'm also happy with vlc!
[22:49] <engemec> i will make a presentation about "Programming for Engineering using Free Softwares"
[22:49] <boswe> quibbler, it works fine but the quality isn't the same as if you are playing em on windows media player
[22:49] <engemec> i hope that my notebook working with th data show
[22:49] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: im trying under safe graphics mode to boot
[22:50] <boswe> quibbler, I'm asking if there's a way to achieve the same quality as on windows
[22:50] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> okay
[22:50] <davidnog> i installed 8.04, im impressed, good stuff, have a laptop with a mobility hd2600, drivers fine, 3d, everythin works. except my laptop is burning hot, cpu is at 60c on idle (t7100 C2C), which doesnt happen in xp or vista, tried undervolting, didnt solve anything, im frustrated, i was convinced i was finally going to use linux( use BSD for servers) and i feel like im forced to go back to windows for desktop usage. Anyone has had
[22:50] <dewente> how make mi ip public for webserver
[22:50] <quibbler> boswe: I have no idea, I haven't tried with windows.
[22:50] <graingert> droopsta915: unplug it and insert it again when you are looking at the logs
[22:51] <graingert> davidnog: what company makes your laptop?
[22:51] <davidnog> graingert: toshiba
[22:51] <boswe> quibbler, ok =[
[22:51] <graingert> davidnog: have a look at frequency scaling applet?
[22:51] <xah_lee> is aynone running ubunto on PPC? i checked http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download it says PPC not supported for latest version
[22:51] <csilk> dewente,  you need to tell apache.conf to listen on an open port
[22:52] <droopsta915> graingert: you mean the lsusb logs?
[22:52] <dewente> csilk. how ?
[22:52] <davidnog> graingert: i tried running it always on lowest freq, bios option, still high temps
[22:52] <davidnog> when i run cpuburn
[22:52] <davidnog> on both procs
[22:52] <davidnog> temp goes up to 95c
[22:52] <FloodBot2> davidnog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <jannott> What was the command to see loaded kernel modules and the location of blacklist file
[22:52] <graingert> droopsta915: no system->administration->sytem logs
[22:52] <Pulpie_> n8tuser: this fails to.
[22:53] <graingert> davidnog: what are the windows temperatures?
[22:53] <n8tuser> Pulpie_-> which laptop and video card do yo have?
[22:53] <graingert> davidnog: don't use the bios undervolting; use speedstep
[22:53] <davidnog> it wasnt to undervolt
[22:53] <csilk> dewente, first you need to log into your router and forward a port (each router is different) then you need to find your paache conf file, usuly in etc/apache2 and set the por listen field to whatever port you just forwarded in your router
[22:53] <davidnog> i did the tutorial on iundervolting ofr hardy on the foruns
[22:53] <csilk> *apache
[22:54] <ReAn> how can i re-set the keyboard layout i have?
[22:54] <davidnog> i managed to lower the voltages
[22:54] <csilk> *port
[22:54] <davidnog> but still high temps
[22:54] <ReAn> for some reason ubuntu is having issues typing " or ' keys
[22:54] <ReAn> it's driving me nuts and making programming a royal pain
[22:54] <dewente> csilk. should be 80
[22:54] <fatfishy> anyone else having display resolution issues with the latest hardy patch. cant get anything better than 640 on nvidia drivers or 800 on vesa if i set the monitor res manually it like a big zoom window i can move if i hit the edge of the screen
[22:54] <davidnog> i used the bios option to keep the proc at lowest frequency always
[22:54] <graingert> davidnog: have you installed the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 2.22.2 applet?
[22:54] <davidnog> nope
[22:54] <MothOnLovesFlame> does anyone know what will speed up processors to almost 100% when they're doing very little work?
[22:54] <csilk> dewente,  I wouldnt use 80, but you can use that if you want
[22:54] <graingert> davidnog: right click on the panel and add it, please
[22:55] <davidnog> you mean the think that indicates
[22:55] <dewente> ok
[22:55] <MothOnLovesFlame> my processors are constantly working hard lately
[22:55] <davidnog> what is the clock speed?
[22:55] <davidnog> yeah i  have that
[22:55] <csilk> dewente, if you do use 80, you need to set port forwarding on port 80 on your router
[22:55] <graingert> davidnog: yes, and uses speedstep editing
[22:55] <dewente> csilk, could you get in http://dewente.homeunix.com/ ?
[22:55] <MothOnLovesFlame> constantly near 100%
[22:55] <graingert> davidnog: what menu do you get when you click on it?
[22:55] <x|e> Is there any BIG differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[22:55] <davidnog> 1 sec let me check
[22:56] <graingert> davidnog: left click
[22:56] <davidnog> just a regular preferences help about remove from panel thing
[22:56] <DIFH-iceroot> x|e: yes, debian is more used for servers, ubuntu is more used for desktop-pc, debian has stable software (old) and ubuntu has newer (unstable) software
[22:56] <davidnog> left click doesnt do anything
[22:56] <csilk> dewente, no, have you got the port forwarded?
[22:57] <dewente> csilk, yes
[22:57] <graingert> davidnog: are you sure?
[22:57] <csilk> dewente, whats your ip address
[22:57] <_paneb> is there a complete gtk download manager? one that can accept links from firefox (i tried the downthemall addon, but i've had a few problems with it)
[22:57] <csilk> dewente, and what port you using?
[22:57] <dewente> 80
[22:57] <droopsta915> graingert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62211/
[22:57] <davidnog> yes
[22:57] <graingert> davidnog: what temperatures do you get on windows?
[22:57] <droopsta915> graingert: thats what happens when i plug in the drive
[22:57] <csilk> dewente, whats your ip address
[22:57] <x|e> DIFH-iceroot, ya i use debian's unstable. but i was wondering if ubuntu would be better as i really only use it as a desktop system... and if there were any advantages i would gain
[22:57] <MarcC> how do I make my laptop automatically sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda when it comes out of suspend?
[22:58] <davidnog> 50-60
[22:58] <davidnog> max 65
[22:58] <MothOnLovesFlame> can anyone tell me what would make processors constantly run near 100% in ubuntu?
[22:58] <dewente> csilk, the router ip address is http://72.66.94.115/
[22:58] <davidnog> when pushing it
[22:58] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: run htop in a console and find out
[22:58] <kbrosnan> _paneb: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows4.html i know it says windows, but a few are cross platform and might meet your needs?
[22:58] <davidnog> right now i have 0% cpu usage on ubuntu and has been like that for an hour and its at 62c
[22:58] <csilk> dewente,  so your webserver address is http://72.66.94.115:80
[22:58] <davidnog> when i push it it goes up to 95c
[22:58] <graingert> droopsta915: try mounting /dev/sg4
[22:58] <MothOnLovesFlame> marcc whats htop in a console
[22:58] <davidnog> which is obviously not good
[22:59] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: do you have a little "black monitor" icon with a ">" in it on your top panel?
[22:59] <dewente> csilk, can you get in ?
[22:59] <xtian> mongolai: you there?
[22:59] <csilk> dewente,  no
[22:59] <MothOnLovesFlame> oh ok
[22:59] <csilk> dewente, can i port scan you to see if that port is open?
[22:59] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: or go to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[22:59] <dewente> yes
[22:59] <graingert> davidnog: can you type my name before each message in irc, it makes it easier to read for me (highlights it)
[22:59] <davidnog> graingert: sorry about that
[22:59] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: at the terminal, type "sudo apt-get install htop"
[23:00] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: after it installs, type "htop" and press enter.
[23:00] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: this will show you which application is using all the CPU percentage and allow you to close it if you like
[23:00] <graingert> davidnog: what is the linux temp vs the windows temp?
[23:00] <dewente> f
[23:00] <csilk> dewente, port 80 isn't open it's filtered
[23:01] <dewente> let me see
[23:01] <buck_work> Okay... very weird issue here and so far the forums are no help. I have noticed recently that at random intervals, my sound output (which works perfectly normally) suddenly massively jumps in volume to the point that it causes near-total distortion of the audio stream.
[23:01] <MothOnLovesFlame> marcc its not an application, its slow on startup too
[23:01] <davidnog> graingert: win 50-65 , linux 62-95
[23:01] <csilk> dewente, nmap output >  80/tcp   filtered http
[23:01] <buck_work> Anyone heard of this happening and possibly how to fix it
[23:01] <buck_work> ?
[23:01] <davidnog> not to mention
[23:01] <MarcC> MothOnLovesFlame: fine, you'll still be able to diagnose the problem, most likely
[23:01] <davidnog> graingert: my fan is also always on, like 100%
[23:01] <davidnog> graingert: on linux that is
[23:01] <MothOnLovesFlame> and its slow in windows
[23:01] <graingert> davidnog: ok speedstep is obviosly failing; have you installed the latest bios for your laptop?
[23:01] <MothOnLovesFlame> and ive done 4 clean installs
[23:01] <droopsta915> graingert: sorry to bug so much, whats the mount command
[23:02] <graingert> droopsta915: I can't quite remember it exactly
[23:02] <albertico> droopsta915, mount
[23:02] <davidnog> graingert: the thing is, the bios setting that makes the clock always run at minimum didnt work either, temp as still high, the clock was always at 800mhz i checked, when dyanmic it goes up to 1.8g
[23:02] <albertico> droopsta915, for details about it, type man mount
[23:02] <dsfargeg> hm.  does anyone know of a substitute for idl?
[23:02] <albertico> graingert, lol
[23:03] <graingert> albertico: he needs the specific command to mount /dev/sg4
[23:03] <dsfargeg> i found one using the forums, but it didn't install properly.
[23:03] <graingert> davidnog: does the panel applet complain about not having speedstep
[23:03] <graingert> davidnog: (when it loads)
[23:04] <davidnog> graingert: nope
[23:04] <albertico> graingert, jeje
[23:04] <tscon> when I "Suspend" from a live cd it doesn't unsuspend properly (black screen or text and keyboard is unresponsive). Any solution?
[23:05] <graingert> hmm ok davidnog right click on the applet and click about
[23:05] <davidnog> graingert: but i dont think that speedstep is the problem, speedstep seems to be working fine, and as i said before when i set the proc to be always at lowest frequency possible, and it was, the temp was still high
[23:05] <davidnog> just gives me a window
[23:05] <graingert> davidnog: well, maybe windows lies, or linux gets the temp wrong
[23:05] <davidnog> lol windows does not lie
[23:05] <davidnog> for two reasons
[23:05] <Sonja> is gnash as good as flash? i get the annoying grey box error from time to time in firefox
[23:05] <graingert> davidnog: feels high temp?
[23:05] <davidnog> 1. the actual laptop is not nearly as hot, it can be on my lap
[23:06] <graingert> Sonja: no
[23:06] <davidnog> graingert: and number 2. the fan, on linux its always at 100%
[23:06] <davidnog> graingert: on windows it only comes on when im abusing it
[23:06] <kbrosnan> Sonja: generally no, though it depends on your principles
[23:06] <graingert> davidnog: I would definetly recomend a bios upgrade; I had similar problems with mine till I did
[23:07] <graingert> davidnog: seems un-related but...
[23:07] <huy_> hi, my computer screen is blurry after sleep using hardy. how can i fix it?
[23:08] <graingert> huy_: ??
[23:08] <davidnog> graingert: ill give it a try
[23:08] <graingert> huy_: more detail please...
[23:08] <huy_> like, after the computer is recover from sleep. everything is unreadable.
[23:08] <davidnog> graingert: thanks for the advice
[23:08] <graingert> davidnog: install the bios update on windows
[23:08] <reportin1sjr> when I type sudo it says "unable to resolve host", anyone have any clue why?
[23:09] <huy_> the fonts is blurred. the graphic is absolutely horrible. and it only happens when i enabled the nvidia driver. without using hte driver, the graphic is fine
[23:09] <graingert> huy_: can you get a before/after phot
[23:09] <mongolai> reportin1sjr:  depends, what command are you trying to sudo into?
[23:09] <reportin1sjr> mongolai: any command
[23:09] <reportin1sjr> mongolai: even plain sudo
[23:09] <huy_> graingert: photo?
[23:09] <graingert> reportin1sjr: yeah it's an old bug google it
[23:09] <graingert> huy_: yeah
[23:10] <shawn_> Why am i getting this?: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:10] <reportingsjr> graingert: I did, and I checked etc/whatever it is and it looked fine
[23:10] <huy_> yeah, it would tak e awhile
[23:10] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  is this a plain install, -- that is, are you one of he original users?
[23:10] <graingert> reportingsjr: hmm
[23:10] <reportingsjr> mongolai: yes
[23:11] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  so you are a "sudoer", then?
[23:11] <reportingsjr> I kind of have to, to compile programs...
[23:11] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I mean, the system considers you a sudoer?
[23:11] <reportingsjr> oh, um, how do you mean?
[23:12] <Pokshun> Linux experts: How do I kill a parent process AND it's children. I am using, "pgrep -f <processname> | xargs pkill -P" ... but for reasons beyond the scope of this discussion, I need a command that works without piping
[23:12] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  just a sec
[23:12] <reportingsjr> would you like to see cat /etc/hosts?
[23:12] <Flare183> !paste
[23:12] <n8tuser> Pokshun-> if you know the pid of the process, you can directly kill -15 pid
[23:13] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  no, not yet, perhaps you have a simple issue with /etc/sudoers
[23:14] <reportingsjr> mongolai: well, I can't cat that :p
[23:14] <skyviper> How to run file with extension .run under admin privilegs?
[23:14] <Pokshun> n8tuser: No I dont know the PID
[23:14] <Marie_untu> which software ubuntu uses for the documentation web pages???
[23:14] <joaopinto> skyviper, sudo sh file.sh
[23:14] <graingert> droopsta915: it looks like it should be working fine
[23:14] <joaopinto> erm, .run
[23:14] <joaopinto> skyviper, what software are you installing ?
[23:15] <n8tuser> Pokshun-> if you dont know the pid, then do what you have done previously
[23:15] <Tom_Davis> geez, what a nightmare, guess what, hardy wont install with bad dimm
[23:15] <graingert> droopsta915: run "mount | grep -i sde"
[23:15] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I know, I'm looking into my system for possible clues, however, a pastebin of the hosts file might help afterall
[23:15] <reportingsjr> heh, ok
[23:15] <skyviper> joaopinto vbox addons.
[23:15] <liquid> Im trying to install e17 and when I go to config it it says svn not available, ive installed a few different svn and it still says not available
[23:15] <Marie_untu> ﻿which software ubuntu uses for the documentation web pages??? anyone knows???
[23:15] <reportingsjr> mongolai: http://pastebin.ca/1236008
[23:15] <joaopinto> liquid, the package name it's subversion
[23:15] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  what happens when you run just plain "sudo"
[23:16] <graingert> Marie_untu: apache?
[23:16] <reportingsjr> mongolai: it says sudo: unable to resolve host sanskrit
[23:16] <liquid> joaopinto: Any subverison or should I get the DEV?
[23:16] <Pici> Marie_untu: What documentation web pages?
[23:16] <n8tuser> Marie_untu-> which web pages?
[23:16] <stevenw9> Hello all!
[23:16] <joaopinto> liquid, it should be the regular subversion package
[23:16] <Pici> Marie_untu: If you mean wiki.ubuntu.com, that is MoinMoin
[23:16] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  is there a language barrier there, or here that we need to know about?
[23:16] <graingert> im off d00dz
[23:17] <liquid> joaopinto: Should I use apt-get or aptitude
[23:17] <stevenw9> Might anyone be available to help me get my GeForce 8200 working on Ubuntu 8.01 LTS?
[23:17] <reportingsjr> mongolai: I speak english, do you? :p
[23:17] <Marie_untu> pici: yep the wiki in the ubuntu website
[23:17]  * philosophe Leaves :)
[23:17] <reportingsjr> reportingsjr: that is exactly what it says when I type in sudo and hit the enter key.
[23:17] <reportingsjr> orr
[23:17] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I meant the sanscrit thing. did you install some other language packs perhaps?
[23:17] <reportingsjr> mongolai:
[23:18] <reportingsjr> mongolai: nah, I name my computer dead languages :)
[23:18] <Marie_untu> pici: thanks :)
[23:18] <stevenw9> >.>
[23:18] <reportingsjr> hehe
[23:18] <prof_1> HI I really need some help with fixing my floppy. #1 I can't see it if I df /media/floppy0 I get sda1? here is my fstab file.
[23:18] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  ok, just a sec
[23:19] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  what does the command "uname" have to say?
[23:19] <reportingsjr> mongolai: Linux
[23:19] <Marie_untu> pici: it is the same as the gnome wiki???
[23:19] <droopsta915> my usb flash drive shows up as hidden. what can i do to make it work when i plug it in automatically?
[23:19] <Pici> Marie_untu: unknown
[23:19] <flam> uhm, and what's wrong with that?:o
[23:19] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  how about a "cat /etc/hostname"
[23:19] <flam> sorry
[23:19] <flam> wrong channel
[23:20] <flam> arh
[23:20] <huy_> graingert: i tried to take the screen shot, but it doesn't work. the screenshot appears to be normal while my screen was extremly blurry
[23:20] <flam> ...
[23:20] <FloodBot2> flam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <reportingsjr> mongolai: http://pastebin.ca/1236008
[23:20] <graingert> huy_: I mean photograph :-p
[23:20] <huy_> ohhhhhh
[23:20] <huy_> hahahah
[23:20] <huy_> ok
[23:20] <Marie_untu> pici: its ok, i guess is moinmoin too
[23:20] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I got that. I meant the actual command "cat /etc/hostname"
[23:20] <AboSamoor> do you know any channel for regular expressions ?
[23:20] <prof_1> http://pastebin.com/mb83ff48
[23:21] <reportingsjr> mongolai: oh, my bad. Sanskrit
[23:21] <Pici> AboSamoor: #regex, or possibly the channel for whatever programming language your doing regexes in
[23:21] <aprilhare> question: whenever I am printing from firefox 3, the documents I try to print have badly spaced letters - some run together - and I was wondering if I was missing something that prevents this?
[23:21] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  so "Sanskrit" is *your* hostname, then?
[23:21] <reportingsjr> mongolai: mine :)
[23:22] <stevenw9> Is posting of Ubuntu Question links allowed?
[23:22] <stevenw9> Like from the official site.
[23:22]  * philosophe Leaves !
[23:22] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  OK, :)  And sudo can't connect to that...?
[23:22] <reportingsjr> mongolai: apparently not
[23:22] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  can you "ping localhost"   ?
[23:23] <kbrosnan> aprilhare: sometimes picking a different default font helps, or installing the ms core web fonts
[23:23] <reportingsjr> mongolai: yep
[23:23] <blackvd> pulseaudio quit working on me after reboot. Is there a way to restart is without having to restartx?
[23:23] <favro> !hostname
[23:24] <aprilhare> kbrosnan, I thought I already had installed the ms core web fonts; how do I set a different default font for printing?
[23:24] <Analkrut> Hi
[23:24] <extor> Are there any filesystems out there that save some parity information on the software/device driver level? Like 1/8th of the space being used for a recovery bit in case of data corruption?
[23:24] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I'll be back in a sec, but try "ping Sanskrit"  or however you spelled it. I'll be back in a sec
[23:24] <perillux> is it possible to back up my video driver?  In the past I have tried upgrading my driver but every time I do it I don't have direct rendering anymore (I always have direct rendering before I attempt to upgrade.)  However it still fixes a few things, which is why I want to try it again.  However, simply making a backup of my xorg.conf does NOT restore me to my original driver (the one I am currently using.)  So I need to know if there is a w
[23:24] <kbrosnan> aprilhare: edit -> preferences -> content -> fonts -> advanced
[23:24] <droopsta915> why wont my flash drive mount?
[23:24] <extor> Are there any filesystems out there that save some parity information on the software/device driver level? Like 1/8th of the space being used for a recovery bit in case of data corruption?
[23:24] <reportingsjr> mongolai: Unknown host Sanskrit
[23:24] <stevenw9> question: When I enable Nvidia Proprietary Driver and restart my computer (ubuntu 8.01 LTS) the display completely screws up with many artifacts, to the point where I can no longer see -anything-. I'm using an integrated GeForce 8200 card. How do I have it work properly or atleast NEARLY properly?
[23:25] <Analkrut> Is there a way to install ubuntu 7.10 without launching the live cd and "test" linux first. Like in text mode only?
[23:25] <f_> l
[23:25] <Codedrunk> Anyone know of a good way to capture images from a webcam at a set interval, say 10 seconds or so, into a jpeg?
[23:25] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  stupid question, but are you sure you spelled that correctly?
[23:25] <Codedrunk> Analkrut, There is a special ISO that is a text mode installer.
[23:25] <reportingsjr> mongolai: yep
[23:26] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  OK, then. that's probably the basis of the problem. Are you using that computer right now to get on IRC?
[23:26] <alexi5> i just notice if i put the mouse pointer over a mp3 file in nautilus it starts to play.impressive!!
[23:26] <sabaua> can you join into hushmail or other similar java-based firefox-application?
[23:26] <RonPaul> I can't use my key to connect to my encryted net.ork
[23:26] <znt> i ve ati radeon hd 3200 , i use proprietary driver , my videos have low quality, very very low , what should i do?
[23:26] <sabaua> my firefox allways crashes :/
[23:26] <RonPaul> can anyone help please
[23:26] <favro> !hostname | reportingsjr mongolai
[23:27] <RonPaul> the key is good on other devices (iphone, playstion etc)
[23:27] <stevenw9> Sooo many people in this room. :S
[23:27] <w0ls0n> If I add a new fstab entry, how do I update the system to add the new mount points without rebooting?
[23:27] <dulak> RonPaul: ssh key?
[23:27] <mongolai> well, I'll be
[23:27] <RonPaul> .ep key (double you is broken)
[23:27] <rparish> how do i install adobe flash player for mozilla firefox
[23:27] <znt> i ve ati radeon hd 3200 , i use proprietary driver , my videos have low quality, very very low , what should i do?
[23:27] <Pici> w0ls0n: mount -a
[23:28] <kbrosnan> ! flash | rparish
[23:28] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  did you get that ^^^
[23:28] <w0ls0n> thanks
[23:28] <dulak> RonPaul: ssh I could help with, wireless I don't use, sorry
[23:28] <RonPaul> ah thanks tho
[23:28] <reportingsjr> favro: yeah, it's already at sanskrit
[23:28] <favro> k
[23:28] <favro> reportingsjr: both files read the same?
[23:28] <RonPaul> anyone kno. .ep encryption solutions?
[23:28] <reportingsjr> and hostname command doesn't work /unless you have root power/
[23:28] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  look at the letter case -- Sanskrit vs sanskrit
[23:28] <reportingsjr> favro: no
[23:29] <reportingsjr> mongolai: you are the one who typed capitals, not I :)
[23:29] <znt> i ve ati radeon hd 3200 , i use proprietary driver , my videos have low quality, very very low , what should i do?
[23:29] <Cluny> I have successfully switched to linux, thanks everyone.
[23:29] <Analkrut> Codedrunk is there an archive where all the older versions are available, I'm having a hard time trying to even find the normal 7.10 version
[23:29] <stevenw9> znt: Atleast you have some sort of quality, my Nvidia wont work at all. :(
[23:29] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  wrong. look again ^^ you made the distinction. Perhaps it was a typo
[23:30] <reportingsjr> mongolai: oh, my bad
[23:30] <w0ls0n> THANK YOU!!!!
[23:30] <RonPaul> nobody uses .ireless (double you is broken)
[23:30] <pupuser10a382> :)
[23:30] <pupuser10a382> hey
[23:30] <gandazgul> I cant get samba to ask users for a password for opening a share
[23:30] <gandazgul> can some one point me in the right direction
[23:31] <pupuser10a382> well, basically my BIOS for some wierd reson wont boot off the USB drive
[23:31] <pupuser10a382> for Ubuntu
[23:31] <edugonch> Hello, how can I download a package with apt-get but not install it, so I can save it and install it in other computer, thanks
[23:31] <Codedrunk> Analkrut, just a second, I'll grab you a link.
[23:31] <stevenw9> question: Can someone help me get my GeForce 8200 working? Enabling the proprietary driver just makes Ubuntu 8.01 unusable due to artifacts across the screen.
[23:31] <prof_1> Can I get some help with a floppy disk that's not working?
[23:31] <Mechdave> edugonch, if you type man apt-get in a terminal it will tell you
[23:31] <pupuser10a382> Codedrunk can i have a link for a ISO for Ubuntu?
[23:31] <Codedrunk> Analkrut, Desktop or Server edition?
[23:31] <zume> Hey everyone, I'm back from raking leaves...not that anyone really knows who I am in the first place. I do have a question... How do I get Konversation IRC Client to connect to some really fun IRC rooms? Such as the DeviantArt.Com IRC room. Is there some fun-o-rama rating somewhere.
[23:32] <gandazgul> edugonch: sudo apt-get -d install package_name
[23:32] <djhash> edugonch: apt-get -d
[23:32] <SPhcT> hei need help install ubuntu on 2nd partition
[23:32] <edugonch> thanks
[23:32] <pupuser10a382> Codedrunk can u pm me?
[23:32] <RonPaul> go ahead SPhct
[23:32] <aj_> fuh?
[23:32] <mongolai> zume:  you probably need to know the server and channels by rote
[23:33] <reportingsjr> mongolai: so no clue?
[23:33] <pupuser10a382> can i have a download link for Ubuntu a ISO
[23:33] <pupuser10a382> please/
[23:33] <pupuser10a382> ?
[23:33] <Wenwen> http://www.granhermano10-gh10.blogspot.com/
[23:33] <stevenw9> pupuser10a382: Why dont you just download it off the main site?
[23:33] <ircbin> Is it safe to install now Ubuntu 8.10 RC?
[23:33] <zume> mongolai: i was hoping you would comment :D
[23:33] <djhash> pupuser10a382: just go to www.ubuntu.com
[23:33] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  was there a capitalization discrepency there?
[23:33] <Analkrut> Codedrunk Desktop edition please, but I managed to solve it myself, next problem is to find a guide that actually tells me how to install in text mode ;)
[23:33] <reportingsjr> mongolai: I typoed
[23:33] <Mechdave> pupuser10a382, http://www.ubuntu.com
[23:33] <reportingsjr> in here
[23:34] <pupuser10a382> djhash basically i got mad because i couldn't find out how too dl it
[23:34] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I mean in one of your system files
[23:34] <reportingsjr> mongolai: nope
[23:34] <ircbin> I need to install Ubuntu to a friend and I don't know if I should install 8.04 or 8.10
[23:34] <davidnog> how easy will be it be to go from .04 to .10
[23:34] <davidnog> once the release is out?
[23:34] <ircbin> what do you recommend me?
[23:34] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  ohhh :(
[23:34] <aj_> ls
[23:34] <stevenw9> pupuser10a382: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[23:34] <Mechdave> pupuser10a382, what is your location
[23:34] <pupuser10a382> hm
[23:34] <pupuser10a382> Codedrunk  has it in pm,with me
[23:34] <Mechdave> pupuser10a382, choose a mirror close to you
[23:35] <stevenw9> Ugh, I can't install my graphics card... ;-;
[23:35] <aj_> wherz a good irc directory?
[23:35] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  did you see the link that favro supplied you through ubottu?
[23:35] <Pokshun> Does anyone know the KILL Signal for killing a process AND it's children?
[23:35] <gandazgul> I cant get samba to ask users for a password for opening a share, can some one point me in the right direction? thanks
[23:35] <pupuser10a382> :)
[23:36] <prof_1> Is there someone who can give a good way to fix a floppy on a linux server
[23:36] <reportingsjr> mongolai: link?
[23:36] <Mechdave> gandazgul, try http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap29sec284.html
[23:36] <aj_> I need a chat with other smart asses
[23:36] <pupuser10a382> oh Codedrunk  one more queston in pm
[23:36] <pupuser10a382> lol
[23:36] <gandazgul> thanks!
[23:36] <aj_> yw
[23:36] <SPhcT> prof_1 why use floppy if you can use USB
[23:36] <mongolai> !hostname | reportingsjr
[23:36] <Slack> whats the command to see a list of my hardware specs
[23:37] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  ^^that one
[23:37] <Mechdave> gandazgul, the security=user is what you need
[23:37] <droopsta915> my new flash drive wont mount, anyoneknow how to mount it?
[23:37] <RonPaul> anyway to do an autoreplace for my keyboard?  i have keys missing and i dont have $ to buy a keyboard. what i mean is i want to type 44 and have it come out as a w.  is this in system/preferences/... ?  thanks
[23:37] <reportingsjr> mongolai: no link. But I looked at the gui and it says sanskrit for the hostname
[23:37] <perillux> I need some serious video driver help.  I've tried updating my video card before and it seems better, but it also creates a few problems because for some reason after I upgrade I don't have direct rendering anymore.  I was able to reverse the upgrade once, but other times I was unable to undo it, and I had to do full reinstall of ubuntu.  Simply making a backup of my xorg.conf does NOT fix the problem, it appears that when I upgrade it over
[23:37] <aj_> wo0w
[23:37] <favro> reportingsjr: it needs the same hostname in both files
[23:37] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  look ^^again^^ and reset your hostname if you can...
[23:38] <SPhcT> RonPaul - PM
[23:38] <reportingsjr> favro: where is the hostname in /etc/hosts?
[23:38] <stevenw9> question: Can someone please help me install my Nvidia GeForce 8200? Enabling the proprietary driver just makes my comp unusable. I've tried googling and asking on the Ubuntu question area, but have had no success. :(
[23:38] <prof_1> It's a request by the person I built it for a long with a tape drive too.
[23:38] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  it will be at the top
[23:38] <favro> reportingsjr: here it is listed against 127.0.1.1
[23:38] <w0ls0n> anyone here using Ubuntu 7.04 with a GeForce 6200 and getting betetr than 800x600 graphics? Please pm me because I cannot get it to go above 800x600
[23:38] <prof_1> SPhcT: I just got to get this thing working!!!
[23:39] <aj_> what thing
[23:39] <sirjoebob> w0ls0n: I don't have that card but do you have the restrcited driver installed?
[23:39] <reportingsjr> favro: err, where?
[23:39] <w0ls0n> yea it doesn't do any better. It goes down to 640x480 with the restricted driver
[23:40] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  vi /etc/hosts
[23:40] <bzou> machines are too powerfull :) why the last gforce ?
[23:40] <reportingsjr> mongolai: then?
[23:40] <favro> reportingsjr: it is the second line - under localhost - in /etc/hosts
[23:40] <sirjoebob> w0ls0n: that sucks. unfortunately, that is all I've got... good luck though
[23:40] <w0ls0n> last was actually the TI200 LOL
[23:40] <reportingsjr> favro: oh, for that I have.. 127.0.1.1       jon-desktop
[23:40] <bzou> what version af linux ?
[23:40] <favro> reportingsjr: then that is your issue
[23:41] <Shout1> Is there anyway to run windows on ubuntu using the same computer?
[23:41] <w0ls0n> bzou you talkin to me?
[23:41] <TheZealot> Any way to easily set up a web proxy in ubuntu (I'm not using a gui)
[23:41] <reportingsjr> favro: should I change it to 127.0.0.1 sanskrit?
[23:41] <Mechdave> Shout1, You can use VMware
[23:41] <bzou> the guy who told about a gfoce
[23:41] <bzou> ?
[23:41] <w0ls0n> Shout1 yea just when you install ubuntu and you get the partitian section, just allocate enough for windows xp
[23:41] <w0ls0n> bzou oh
[23:41] <favro> reportingsjr: yep - if that is what is in /etc/hostname :)
[23:41] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  what are the 127.0.0.1 127.0.1.1 etc listings at the top. if there is a "sanskrit" with the lower-casr "s" at the beginning then we're on to something...
[23:41] <dulak> Shout1: vmware or virtualbox
[23:41] <Shout1> Mechdave, what does that do exactly?
[23:42] <RonPaul> anyone kno ho w to change .ep key?
[23:42] <stevenw9> question: Is there a way to start Ubuntu in 'safe mode' incase a video driver install goes haywire?
[23:42] <reportingsjr> favro: one moment!
[23:42] <bzou> soory, i listen about the other converrsation (MP)
[23:42] <kansan> there doesnt seem to be a program that can play a simple MP3 stream on ubuntu hardy without crashing (i..e http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128-1.m3u)
[23:42] <eitreach> How do I restart the sound system if based on pulseaudio?
[23:42] <reportingsjr> favro: how am I supposed to edit /etc/hosts?
[23:42] <Shout1> dulak, I dont want to do it through a remote session
[23:43] <cruegge> hi. can anyone tell me how to quit compiz? i'm running it stand-alone without gnome, so there's no panel and i don't find a way to assign a key or something in ccsm.
[23:43] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  just cat or vi it
[23:43] <favro> reportingsjr: gksu gedit /etc/hosts
[23:43] <kiopes> tc everybody
[23:43] <Mechdave> Shout1, VMware is a virtual machine on which you can run windows in a window on Ubuntu
[23:43] <dulak> Shout1: it's not remote, it's a virtual machine that runs in a window or even fullscreen
[23:43] <mongolai> favro:  he can't do su or sudo, that's the problem
[23:43] <bzou> frensh site about how to install virtualbox on real win
[23:44] <favro> k hehe
[23:44] <bzou> http://toutenbordel.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?post/2007/12/26/VirtualBox
[23:44] <mongolai> favro:  well, maybe su.. haven't tried that yer
[23:44] <zume> Hey everyone.. Here is a bit of advice from user DaSkreech..I edited it a bit: Add/remove is a way to simply get popular packages. Many packages are not going to be there. Synaptic is inclusive, so try it when Add/Remove lets you down.
[23:44] <reportingsjr> favro: no, /no/ administrative things work
[23:44] <Shout1> ﻿Mechdave: so everything is native?
[23:44] <reportingsjr> mongolai: I tried nano, and that didn't work..
[23:44] <rparish> what program do u use to share with windows
[23:44] <dulak> Shout1: virtualbox is easier to use than vmware, but on a newer cpu vmware performs better
[23:44] <TheZealot> I want to install a Web Proxy on my hardy herron web server to be used as a circumventor, any program recommendations?
[23:44] <favro> reportingsjr: time to reboot into recovery and use nano to edit the file
[23:44] <w0ls0n> vmware server is NOT hard to setup. It's VERY easy.
[23:44] <w0ls0n> even on ubu
[23:44] <Shout1> dulak: im running a pentium m
[23:45] <bzou> virtualbox is very fastest than vmware
[23:45] <reportingsjr> favro: bbl then :(
[23:45] <mongolai> reportingsjr:  I think favro has the best ideas here
[23:45] <bzou> but vmware is more powerful
[23:45] <favro> luck
[23:45] <pupuser10a382> :)
[23:45] <w0ls0n> EXSi is better but then no host OS :-D
[23:45] <dulak> bzou: that's not true on a core duo cpu, virtualbox does not support vx virtualization extensions
[23:45] <kansan> i have an accountant  that i need to share my quickbooks company data file with who lives in texas.  i run ubuntu hardy (linux) and run windows XP through a virtualbox VM.  question: is there a way that i can set up a fileshare on my linux box so that (1) my accountant (who's using windows xp from a remote location) can access it whenever she wants it? and (2) it can be accessed from within the virtual machine instance of windows xp?
[23:45] <dulak> bzou: vmware will smoke virtualbox on a core duo
[23:46] <bzou> yes, that why i sais that vmware is more powerful
[23:46] <rparish> what program do u use to share with windows?
[23:46] <bzou> :)
[23:46] <Codedrunk> Anyone have a good method to capture images from a webcam in a jpeg, png, or gif format?
[23:46] <jyoseph> I'm using xmodmap to remap the control/command keys on an apple keyboard. This seemed to work ok in kubuntu, but today I installed ubuntu and it's not working the same. Here is the contents of the xmodmap file: http://pastebin.com/d5840e117
[23:46] <w0ls0n> bzou if you're looking for a much better solution EXSI rocks on my Core 2 Duo but theres no host OS. EXSi is loaded directly on the hard drive
[23:46] <eitreach> How do I restart the sound system if based on pulseaudio?
[23:47] <bzou> thanks
[23:47] <bzou> i have a look now
[23:47] <SPhcT> can i get help from somone ho instaled linux as 2nd OS please PM me if you can help..
[23:47] <jyoseph> command is working, but not Command+V or any other Command+keys
[23:47] <mongolai> kansan:  so you want some way to have your colleague to access your file on a virtual computer?
[23:47] <dulak> Shout1: virtualbox is gonna be all you need really, it's easy to get going compared to vmware
[23:48] <Tom_Davis> wow, a bad dimm does bad things to the installer :) I'm happy now
[23:48] <SPhcT> can i get help from somone ho instaled linux as 2nd OS please PM me if you can help..
[23:48] <kansan> mongolai, i want the file to live on the ubuntu machine i run 24/7 ... not the VM (since it only runs when i need to look at finanicals)
[23:48] <bzou> wolson, please, give me a link :)
[23:49] <SPhcT> can i get help from somone ho instaled linux as 2nd OS please PM me if you can help..
[23:49] <Slack> whats the command to see a list of my hardware specs
[23:49] <favro> sudo lshw
[23:49] <bzou> slack :see to hal
[23:49] <TheZealot> Hello everyone
[23:49] <mongolai> kansan:  OK, so your colleague only needs access to that particular file then? No kind of remote desktop or whatnot?
[23:49] <jyoseph> anybody have experience w/ mapping keys on an apple keyboard?
[23:50] <kansan> mongolai, exactly
[23:50] <Tom_Davis> sounds like a job for samba
[23:50] <jyoseph> http://pastebin.com/d5840e117 Trying to get the command key to work in place of the control key
[23:50] <Slack> bzou: ??
[23:51] <mongolai> kansan:  there are a few ways: ssh which is like telnet but more secure, sftp which is like regular FTP but more secure, and this is what I'd use...
[23:51] <kansan> mongolai, what do you think of samba?
[23:51] <bzou> slack : ui ?
[23:51] <Slack> bzou: gnome
[23:51] <aj_> I got distracted
[23:51] <bzou> slack :ui, bien sur !
[23:52] <liquid> Hello All
[23:52] <aj_> ich ben nast suliner?
[23:52] <TheZealot> can you guys see this?
[23:52] <liquid> Im trying to install e17 amd am getting an error
[23:52] <liquid> Where can I paste the error
[23:52] <favro> Slack: sudo lshw   will tell about your system
[23:52] <aj_> I can see it
[23:52] <Tom_Davis> what error?
[23:52] <reportin1sjr> favro: mongolai: thanks! it's all good now :)
[23:52] <Tom_Davis> !pastebin
[23:52] <TheZealot> ok thanks
[23:52] <bzou> slack : sorry. yes !!
[23:52] <droopsta915> my new flash drive wasnt detected, so i logged into my xp machine, it installed the drive, logged back in into linux and badda beem! it works.
[23:52] <liquid> Tom_Davis: Where can I paste the error
[23:52] <mongolai> kansan:  samba is ok, and I'd certainly use it on a LAN, but I'm not really convinced of it's security over the internet. It is possible to "tunnel" samba through SSH, but I'm not really sure how
[23:52] <favro> reportin1sjr: happy for you
[23:52] <Slack> favro: ty
[23:52] <reportin1sjr> :)
[23:52] <reportin1sjr> bye
[23:52] <Tom_Davis> liquid see above
[23:52] <Tom_Davis> pastebin it
[23:52] <liquid> Tom_Davis: it says imlib2 error
[23:53] <xtian> i installed an nvidia driver for a kernel that i didnt have: 2.6.24-21-386, and im pretty sure synaptic installed the kernel. I have since uninstalled the nvidia driver, but the kernel still exists. How do i remove the kernel?
[23:53] <Tom_Davis> !imlib2
[23:53] <BSG75> is there a way I can write the 8.10 iso onto a dvd?
[23:53] <bzou> anybody listen anything about #LinuxCrackers ?
[23:53] <aj_> go0tta pee. brb
[23:53] <kansan> mongolai, i worry how savvy my accountant is ; and if shed be able to use ssh
[23:54] <Tom_Davis> kansan: doubtful
[23:54] <liquid> Tom_Davis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62244/
[23:54] <xtian> anyone know how to remove a kernel?
[23:54] <bzou> :)
[23:54] <dulak> kansan: is your networking for the vm bridged or routed?
[23:54] <bzou> that's not me :)
[23:54] <mongolai> kansan:  regardless, she'd have to use ssh, or have you set up some fance http server... ssh is really not that hard...
[23:54] <bzou> my family :)
[23:54] <edugonch> well, apt-get install -d works, but how can I do to download to an specific directory?
[23:54] <Tom_Davis> liquid have you apt-get updated lately?
[23:55] <mongolai> kansan:  ssh is easy to do from windows with putty
[23:55] <liquid> Tom_Davis: Today like 5 minutes ago
[23:55] <Tom_Davis> and upgrade
[23:55] <Chickengeorge> hello ubuntu freaks...... i am new on irc.... where can i find the german xubuntu-channel here on freenode?
[23:55] <kansan> dulak, im using vbox how do i figure that out?  network panel shows cable connected and its attached to NAT
[23:55] <liquid> Tom_Davis: I dont know about the upgrade, how would I do t hat
[23:55] <liquid> *that
[23:55] <dulak> kansan: nat is routed
[23:55] <BigMike> hi all
[23:55] <knut_> hi, everytime i open applications (openarena, zattoo player, elisa media center) and compiz is enabled, the screen starts to flicker and this annoys me :)
[23:55] <Tom_Davis> liquid sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:55] <kansan> dulak, what is the difference?
[23:55] <bzou> slack ?
[23:55] <BigMike> ??? is there anyway to change the background of dolphin from its white color?
[23:55] <Slack> bzou: worked
[23:56] <liquid> Tom_Davis: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:56] <dulak> kansan: ok, you can do it like this, you put the quickbooks file on your linux file system, create a samba share that only the virtual machine can access, you point quickbooks to that share in the virtual machine
[23:56] <Tom_Davis> liquid: it appears to be making a call that is not in your version of imlib2
[23:56] <diskin> !de > Chickengeorge
[23:56] <liquid> Tom_Davis: How do I check to see if I have imlib2
[23:56] <bzou> what difference did you make between gnome and kde (xfce is not the same) ?
[23:57] <Tom_Davis> liquid: sudo apt-get install imlib2*
[23:57] <dulak> kansan: then you can have the accountant get a program called winscp, which will allow her to download and upload the file using ssh, without having to be too saavy
[23:57] <liquid> Tom_Davis: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:57] <kansan> dulak, that sounds great
[23:58] <dulak> kansan: she can get the file, change it, re upload it, you can access it from the vm, 24/7
[23:58] <bzou> slack : many years that i don't touch to irc, so, bring to private :)
[23:58] <Sertse> hello, does anyone know if there's a way to reverse the touch pad? I like scrolling on the left side....
[23:58] <liquid> Tom_Davis: Why do you think im getting that error
[23:58] <D3JAVU> hi all
[23:58] <Chickengeorge> bye bye
[23:58] <Codedrunk> Hello D3JAVU
[23:59] <D3JAVU> how can i creeyt iso disk with terminal and load it
[23:59] <dulak> kansan: bridged would stick the vm network card and your linux box network card together to make one virtual network card, nat means the vm has a virtual network card that talks to your real network card for access
[23:59] <kansan> ah ok
[23:59] <Tom_Davis> liquid: either not installed libimlib2 or corrupt libimlib2
[23:59] <pupuser10a382> man, codedrunk this download is taking forever..
[23:59] <dulak> kansan: in a bridged situation the samba share would be a lot harder to get working right
[23:59] <kansan> dulak, you are very helpful
[23:59] <tvanover> My eeepc's NIC (wired) is not having it's drivers installed.  In the hardware testing app it tells me I have a "Attansic Technology Corp. Unknown device 1026(rev b0)".  Any Idea where I can get drivers for my nic?
[23:59] <pupuser10a382> and i know its not my download / or upload
[23:59] <Stormx2> D3JAVU: Do you already have the .iso file? or do you want to generate one?
[23:59] <kansan> dulak, i have to run; any gotchas to watch out for? things to keep in mind?
[23:59] <kansan> dulak, resources ;p?
[23:59] <D3JAVU> i wont create iso dvd of ubuntu 8.4