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zerothisI'm having trouble installing virtualbox. The build failed for the kernel module. and "No suitable module for running kernel found." The installer suggested I install the sources from my kernel, I literally have everything "2.6.24-21" installed under adept. I guess that doesn't include source? how do install 2.6.24-21 source? vbox-install.log <http://pastebin.com/d698a801b>00:02
zoredachetry a sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-source-2.6.2400:05
zoredacheor what you may really need is the headers... sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic00:06
zerothiszoredache: thanks, attempting that now00:16
OilFurnaceext3 sucks00:57
zoredacheoh?01:05
GasFurnace!ops01:28
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild or cody-somerville01:28
cody-somervilleGasFurnace, yes?01:28
GasFurnacehi01:29
GasFurnace!ops01:30
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild or cody-somerville01:30
GasFurnacelol01:30
GasFurnace!ops01:31
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild or cody-somerville01:31
scopecreephehe01:33
scopecreepnormally id be asking an obscure question, but *gasp* everything is working perfectly. yay xubuntu01:34
cody-somerville:D01:34
scopecreepoh can anyone recommend some cool looking mono fonts for my x terminal01:37
cody-somervilleI enjoy monospace 1201:39
knomei like monospace 901:52
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scopecreepanyone know how to make the fonts in firefox look decent? everything else is fine but ffx01:57
scopecreepim running ibex01:58
Eeyore-Jri need some help determining why my internet connection is not working02:08
Chickengeorge123 Party02:14
* Chickengeorge gives some Knockwurst02:14
cody-somervilleNo.02:14
Chickengeorgewhy?02:14
cody-somervilleTake it to #xubuntu-offtopic :P02:15
cody-somervilleWe like to keep this channel for support02:15
Chickengeorgei am new on linux and i choosed Xubuntu02:15
Chickengeorgeit is very good02:15
cody-somerville\o/02:15
cody-somervillew00t02:15
cody-somerville:)02:15
Chickengeorgei use it now since about 1 month and  its super02:15
Chickengeorgei am new in irc too.. so excuse if i make mistakes02:16
Chickengeorgecan i ask about amarok here too? or just Xubuntu?02:16
Chickengeorgehello`all 58 users sleeping?02:17
dsmith_Responses to “NetBSD: An alternative to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Lite for machines with low specs.” yeah, recommend BSD then get a sh*t load complaints in the mailing lists when it doesn’t detect your hardware correctly. good one.02:18
dsmith_lol02:18
dsmith_<-- not sleeping02:18
scopecreephaha02:18
Chickengeorgei am lucky with xubuntu since now...02:19
scopecreepi spent 3 weeks kicking netbsd around my apartment02:19
scopecreepit doesnt like laptops for some reason02:19
dsmith_i only recommned *buntu's and linux mint distros now02:19
Chickengeorgeyeah... me too02:20
dsmith_yes, I have used xubuntu in a office, I install on 4 old machines02:20
scopecreepi actually ran gentoo for a while successfully, but thats as hardcore as ive ever gotten02:20
dsmith_owner was like amazed that he could still use the machines02:20
Chickengeorgei have xubuntu here on 1ghz 380RAM 40GIG HD 128mb GFX02:20
dsmith_I told him to repalce all the power supplies, or buy spare at least and think about backing up the drives and eventually swapping those out as well02:20
dsmith_and a few spare amchines02:21
dsmith_*machines02:21
Chickengeorge25Euro Epray-PC and it likes xubuntu very much02:21
dsmith_I sinallyed on P3 800's02:21
dsmith_Installed02:21
Chickengeorgethats nice too........02:22
dsmith_I wish I had kept my P2 30002:23
dsmith_like all the rest of the uninformed, I was told that there was nothing I could install on it02:23
dsmith_so junk02:23
dsmith_:(02:23
Chickengeorgeone of my friend wants to try it on a ibm-thinkpad 700mhz laptop but he has problems with screen-resolution bigger than 800X600 he told me02:23
dsmith_I could still be using it to this day02:23
Chickengeorgeis it possible to have bigger resolutions on this machine?02:23
dsmith_i dont know02:24
Chickengeorgeokay.... n.p02:24
Chickengeorgedo you know some informations about a amarok-script?02:24
dsmith_hmmm?02:31
Chickengeorgeyeah02:33
scopecreephow do i change my system to a static ip?  my interface isnt in /etc/network/interfaces02:47
xxploitHello, im using the 8.10 beta and when logging into the desktop the update manager pops up right in the front of the screen and checks for updates(autostarted). Ive disabled the autostart apps but yet it still comes up everytime anyone familar with stopping it from starting02:49
scopecreephave you updated your system yet?  you might want to do that once to get caught up02:50
xxploityes everything is updated02:50
cody-somervillexxploit, might be from your saved session02:51
xxploitumm where does xfce save the sessions? and can I just delete the session file? Im pretty sure I choose to not save sessions but that does sound like it mite be whats up02:52
cody-somervilleI forget tbh02:57
cody-somerville:P02:57
K_DallasGood evening guys! Q: In prior to 8.04 versions, I used to change my display in xorg.config but in 8.04 and 8.10 there is barely anything there. How do I manipulate video card's resolution, etc? Thanks03:12
omfgitsasharkhey can anybody help me install a theme03:32
omfgitsasharkanybody online right now03:33
omfgitsasharkhey anybody there03:43
vocal6yes03:47
vocal6we are all here, staring at your words03:47
Jimmy0815rapunzell04:15
* Jimmy0815 Gives 500 Sausages to all here!!!04:16
Jimmy0815hello?04:17
Jimmy0815is here the chanel?04:17
Jimmy0815wassn scheis04:17
cody-somervilleJimmy0815, what do you need help with?04:17
Jimmy0815hello... i was just bored but still experimenting with my xubunto.. so i came here to chat relaxed04:18
Jimmy0815do you have any great hints and tricks for me? i am anwe Xubuntu04:19
cody-somervilleTry the compositor :)04:22
omfgitsasharkhey anybody therer04:48
omfgitsasharki downloaded and unpacked a theme but when i try to drag and drop it into the theme folder it wont let me04:49
favrouse the .themes folder in your home dir04:50
omfgitsasharkwhere is that located04:51
omfgitsasharki cant finid a home diriectory04:53
omfgitsasharkwell themes in a home diirectory04:53
Odd-rationaleyour home dir is /home/<your_username>04:53
Odd-rationalealso known as ~/04:53
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omfgitsasharkim looking right now and i can see hidden filies04:55
omfgitsasharkand nothinng about theme04:55
favro.themes is a hidden foder - ctrl+h when thunar is open04:55
favromake the folder then04:55
omfgitsasharkname it .theme04:55
favroyep04:56
omfgitsasharkok04:56
omfgitsasharkcool04:56
omfgitsasharkand now it will show up04:56
omfgitsasharkit didnt show up on the themes list04:57
favrogot a link for the theme - where you got it from?04:59
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owen1in the middle of installing firefox i get this: "the swap file or partition that was found in uswsup's configuration file is not active" any idea?06:02
Maximilian1stcody-somerville, Hi, the download link on ubuntu for the xubuntu rc is wrong "http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta"06:13
cody-somervilleThats because that page is for the beta06:14
Maximilian1sthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.10/beta06:14
Maximilian1stoh06:14
Maximilian1stbut I'm sure I clicked on the rc ad06:14
Maximilian1sthttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta06:15
Maximilian1stthat is the link from the web site for the rc06:15
Maximilian1stit definitely says "Can't wait? Download the release candidate now."...06:16
Maximilian1stAnd the page for Ubuntu states "rc" http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/06:18
Maximilian1stAnyway, have a good night.06:19
cody-somervillehttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc06:20
cody-somervilleer06:22
cody-somervillehttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc06:22
Noniehello guys06:48
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MHz128hello world!08:00
mlhello08:02
MHz128How can I search apt-get repo's for what version of Flash they are serving?08:06
mlapt-cache search flash08:09
MHz128ml, awesome thanks! how can I search my system for the current flash version?08:10
Myrttiapt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree08:10
mlit's better if go to abobe site and download the bew version08:11
ml*new08:11
mlworks better for me than nonfree version08:11
MHz12810 4, so the repo version isn't always the latest?08:11
MHz128should I download the deb or apt package?08:12
mlone minute08:12
mlapt-get install abode-flashplugin or the deb from abode your choice08:14
mlthe one in the repos is the latest08:14
MHz128apt-get will get me the latest version 10?08:14
MHz128ohhh ko08:14
MHz128ok08:14
mlyes08:14
MHz128Is there any way to automatically update these packages? or update the entire system?08:15
mltry apt-get update then apt-get upgrade08:16
MHz128cool08:16
mlto list the install pkgs do a dpkg -l08:16
MHz128hmm, apt-get : couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin08:17
mlthat's oddd I see it here08:18
MHz128do I need to add a new repo?08:18
Myrttiflashplugin-nonfree should install it08:18
MHz128I dont understand the nonfree aspect, does that mean Adobe?08:19
mlMyrtti that's the old version 10 is much better08:19
MHz128nonfree is 9.0 r12408:19
Myrttiml: it's totally dependant on *which* version of ubuntu you're running08:19
mlthat's justa a version08:19
mli'm xubuntu 8.0408:20
MHz128Myrtti, how so? Im running hardy08:20
mlbut didn't install from the repos I intalled from abobe08:21
mlthe deb file08:21
MHz128Ill try the deb08:21
mlMHz128 but do a search first08:22
MHz128too late08:22
mllol08:22
mlok, it's just I see i here adobe-flashplugin -Adobe  Flash Player plugin version 1008:23
MHz128So confused, my system says its already installed08:23
MHz128do I need to reboot?08:23
mlit's wasn't in the repos when I instaaled it08:23
mlno restart your browser08:24
mlbefore version 10 the sound was horrible but with 10 it work's great for me now08:24
ml:)08:25
MHz128fcool08:25
mltry a youtube08:25
MHz128yup seems to work fine08:25
Myrttiyoutube is not the ideal flash benchmark08:26
mlgreat :)08:26
Myrttisince youtube works fine with swfdec too08:26
mlanybody here try 8.10?08:27
mlMyrtti what would be better?08:28
Myrttivimeo, ted.com etc08:30
mlcan you explain the difference?08:32
Myrttibetween swfdec and flashplugin-nonfree?08:33
mlusing ted.com etc over youtube?08:33
MHz128thanks ml08:36
mlnp08:37
mlenjoy08:37
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mlMHz12808:42
Ben_Cshello10:49
knomelo10:49
Ben_Csi upgraded to xubuntu 8.10. When i login i have SMB network share, but then it disappears. please help10:50
Ben_Csshould i stick to LTS, because it's more stable?10:51
zerothisI installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.11:04
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ReAnCurious, Can xubuntu run in console mode by default? I.e. boots to console, x only loaded when i manually start it?14:47
knomeReAn, yes, you can remove gdm from autostart14:48
knomeReAn, or just remove it completely if you don't want it14:48
ReAnwell basically i wanna set up a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) development server but i want the ability to load X if i need to14:50
ReAnthat's why im looking into xubuntu in the first place (lightweight Window Manager)14:50
knomeReAn, well you could install ubuntu server edition14:50
TheSheepor you can remove gmd and tsrat X with startxfce414:50
knomeReAn, and then just pull in x packages14:50
TheSheep*gdm14:50
ReAnknome: I've been told that has a larger footprint than xubuntu14:51
ReAnsince the server kernel isn't designed for desktop processing14:51
knomeReAn, if you want maximum minimality, use the minimal cd and install whatever you need14:51
ReAnxubuntu has a minimal CD?14:52
knomeit's the same for all *ubuntu14:52
knomebecause the different flavors are basically just ubuntu with a different WM14:52
knome/DE14:52
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ReAnhttp://hex1a4.net/xubuntu/mirror/releases/8.04.1/release/ <--- was unable to find it14:52
knome!minimal14:53
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:53
knomeReAn, as i said, there is no xubuntu (nor kubuntu or ubuntu) specific minimal14:53
ReAni see14:53
knomeReAn, it is the same for everyone of them14:53
ReAnbut i can install xfse instead of gnome from the minimal cd?14:53
knomesure.14:54
knomeminimal doesn't install anything you don't *definitely* need to run a system14:54
knomeeg. no x packages neither a desktop environment14:54
viddReAn, if you so desired, you could also choose slim, which is a lighter DM then gdm14:54
knomevidd, i actually have quite splitted experiences with slim. it's not really any faster on my laptop than gdm14:55
ReAnthen what's the point of the variants? xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.. if they're all exactly the same w/ different WM, i thought they were tuned for the WM as well14:55
knomeReAn, with some settings packages, software etc... yes14:55
viddReAn, the WM and the apps loaded with those WMs are different14:55
knomeReAn, but the minimal cd doesn't install those either14:55
ReAnreally all i need is linux core, apache, mysql, php, x, some x-based text editor, and some minimal web-browser basically14:56
knomeReAn, as i said, if you want maximum minimality/control over pckgs, use minimal cd.14:57
* vidd concurs14:57
ReAni can always install packages later w/ atp-get right?14:57
* vidd only installs with the mini.iso14:57
knomeReAn, sure. that's the point of minimal14:57
viddyes14:57
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knomevidd, i've been going towards that too :) my laptop now has openbox with pypanel and no graphical login ;)14:58
Odd-rationalei've gotten rid of pypanel on my openbox setup... :P15:14
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knomeOdd-rationale, so what are you running then?15:30
Odd-rationaleknome: i've realized that i didn't really need one...15:59
knomehehe ok15:59
knomeso how can you get a quick overview of the apps running?15:59
Odd-rationalethe openbox alt+tab is pretty good for me... ;)15:59
knomeomg16:00
Odd-rationalealso i've linked the client-menu to a keyboard shorcut16:00
knomei suppose you don't run a lot of apps parallel?16:00
Odd-rationalethe client menu is usually the one you get when you middle click the desktop.16:00
knomehmm16:00
Odd-rationalewell, i really only use two apps, firefox and terminator16:00
knomedidn't know that kind of stuff existed16:00
knomeinteresting16:00
Odd-rationaleocasionally gimp16:01
knomeyeah16:01
knomethis doesn't apply to my laptop, but on my desktop pc i have two displays16:01
knomeso i usually have 15+ windows open16:01
Odd-rationalewhoah. what do you do with all those?16:01
knomejust because there is space to open that extra thunar window.16:01
vinnlI often have two or three Thunar windows, Bluefish, Firefox, Epiphany, Xchat, emesene a few windows and perhaps Pidging :)16:02
vinnl*Pidgin16:02
knometext editor, usually a few firefoxes (with multiple tabs inside of course), thunderbird, amarok, vmware (with it's own windows), notes plugin, a few terminals, a few thunar windows...16:02
Odd-rationalevinnl: firefox AND epiphany? :?16:03
vinnlOdd-rationale, yeah, Gmail crashes my Firefox :(16:03
knomeoh, sometimes ff+epiphany+midori16:03
vinnlOf course, I also could have referred to16:03
vinnl!find epiphany16:03
vinnl:P16:03
ubottuFound: epiphany, epiphany-data, epiphany-extension-gwget, epiphany-browser, epiphany-browser-data (and 4 others)16:03
knome(testing websites)16:03
vinnl!info epiphany16:03
ubottuepiphany (source: epiphany): clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-1 (hardy), package size 85 kB, installed size 300 kB16:03
vinnl^.^16:03
vinnlAnd of course, sometimse Opera and IE and Midori as well to test websites :)16:04
knomeyus16:04
knomeand maybe dosbox running nhl'9316:04
Odd-rationalei'm willing to use firefox even though it might be slower... nothing really competes with it... :P16:04
vinnlExactly16:05
Odd-rationalei'm addicted to some extensions anyways... :D16:05
knomei'm trying to get rid of firefox.16:05
knomei'm so hardcore webdev i don't usually need the webdev extension either16:05
knomeor i'm too lazy to open it16:05
Odd-rationalemy top ff extensions are: adblock plus, foxmark, and vimperator16:06
vinnlUbiquity ftw :P16:06
Odd-rationalei couldn't live without those extensions... :P16:06
vinnlknome, don't you love the Outline feature? It's a real life-saver to me16:06
vinnlAnd the delicious.com thingy is awesome as well16:06
knomekind of yes, but usually i don't come into situations i had to use it16:07
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zerothisOdd-rationale: firefox 2 is faster. there's also several scaled down versions of ff16:50
zerothisI installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.16:51
bytor4232So does anyone know how to patch xfwm4 so I can stop avant from moving the windows to the current desktop?18:39
C-O-B-O-LDoes Xubuntu have a launcher panel like GNOME?18:43
C-O-B-O-LI was trying to add some icons to the launcher panel - but could not get them to appear. This is a very important function. Thanks in advance!18:44
bytor4232C-O-B-O-L, its a little hard than with Gnome18:44
bytor4232you have to add a launcher to he panel first18:45
bytor4232Then open the properties, run appfinder, and drag the app you want in the launcher to the new launcher, click on the blank one, and delete it.18:45
bytor4232Sounds confusing, but once you do it a few times, you'll get it.18:45
C-O-B-O-Lbytor4232, thanks for the reply. Doing that right now. Regards!18:46
bytor4232C-O-B-O-L, Something I wish they would fix for sure.18:46
bytor4232I'm struggling with another issue.  I don't want to run compiz, but I want to run avant-window-navigator18:47
bytor4232Whatever I click on an icon thats on another desktop, it refoccuses the window to my current desktop, rather than switching to the other desk.18:49
zoredacheI haven't used avant, but how can you click an icon on a desktop you aren't on?18:53
viddzoredache, i think he has his task bar panel app set to display all applications on all desktops18:58
bytor4232vidd, Correct.18:58
bytor4232When I do this with a regular panel, I get switched to another desktop.18:58
viddby default, this setting will swap bring that desktop to focus if you click that task18:58
bytor4232Correct.  But in avant, it brings the window to the current desktop.18:59
viddewww18:59
bytor4232In compiz, i switch desktops.18:59
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bytor4232I heard there was a patch to xfwm4, but so far google has not revealed the answer to me.19:14
WooWhat's the off topic channel called?19:16
zoredachexubuntu-offtopic19:22
ReAnok, this is gonna sound stupid, so please don't hurt me19:45
ReAnI've installed a basic minimal install of ubuntu from the 5mb disc19:45
ReAnand i installed xorg & xdm19:45
ReAnnow im a complete noob @ linux, but where do i need to go from here to get a 'usable' X environment?19:46
ReAnyou know... like anything other than a x-enabled console19:46
favrosudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop will make it like xubuntu19:47
favroand there are other window managers19:47
ReAn<319:47
favroReAn: oops sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I meant19:48
mnemochi, how can one permanently unblock the "ring" nm wants to unlock each time I log to connect to my wlan?19:48
ReAnyea, i read typo fluently19:49
ReAn:)19:49
ReAnhrm19:49
ReAn1gb, not quite as 'minimal' as i wanted, but ill compromise19:49
ReAni just wish i could install more than one thing at a time19:49
ReAn*shakes fist @ apt*19:49
ReAncuz i could be setting up and configuring my apache / mysql / php / svn atm19:49
favroyou can install lots at once - just keep adding options19:51
favro!lamp19:51
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:51
ReAnwell true19:51
ReAnbut19:51
ReAnit's already going19:51
ReAni gotta wait till it's done19:51
favrolike sudo apt-get install thing1 thing2 thing3 etc19:51
ReAni know19:51
favrok19:51
ReAnbut it's already going id want to download LAMP's components seperately so i could configure them while xubuntu-desktop downloads19:52
zoredachethe dpkg/apt system is not designed to allow multiple package managers to work concurrently...  It would be very difficult to do19:53
ReAni just wish it was multi-threaded or something19:55
zoredacheI don't think it could be done safely...  About cloest thing that you could probably do safely is have the -d (download only) option of apt-get not lock the files19:57
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mnemochi, how can one unlock permanently and for every account the "ring of keys" nm-applet asks to unlock?21:01
Wind67++21:08
ReAnok21:32
ReAnapt-get install xubuntu-desktop completed21:33
ReAnhow do i run it? 'startx' ?21:33
favrothat should work - or install gdm for graphical login21:34
ReAni have xdm21:35
ReAnnot gdm21:35
favrosudo /etc/init.d/xdm start   will fire that up21:35
ReAnawesome, i just rebooted21:36
ReAnit worked21:36
favrohappy xubuntuing then :)21:37
ReAn<321:37
ReAnnow to remember how to change the resolution21:37
ReAnfuck, that was easy21:37
favroI use xrandr -s 1400x90021:37
ReAn<3 xubuntu21:37
favro!ohmy21:38
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:38
ReAnsorry21:38
favronp :)21:38
ReAni work around hicks a lot21:38
ReAn:/21:38
favrohehe21:38
ReAni work for a cement company21:38
ReAndoing all thier comp stuff21:38
ReAn!lamp21:41
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)21:41
viddWoo, hey...sorry for the sudden drop earlier....i got let out of work early and only had 5 minutes to get to the bus21:48
viddnow im home and locked out of the house =\21:49
vinnlvidd, you asked me to check whether Synaptic's quick search is still there, right?21:49
vinnl0.o21:49
viddno...i think tat was knome21:49
vinnlOh OK21:49
vinnli.e. the person interested in working on the documentation?21:49
viddi was interested in possibly doing documentation...but i dont really do muc graphical stuff21:50
vinnlOh OK21:51
viddall te grapical stuff i do is not part of te default install21:51
ReAnis there a gui-based package manager for xubuntu? the default install installed a LOT of pointless things, id rather scrape out a bunch of the useless stuff like games, etc...21:53
Odd-rationaleReAn: synaptics?21:53
ReAndo i have to find thier package names and axe them w/ apt?21:53
ReAn<321:54
viddReAn, you can use the add-remove programs app too21:54
ReAngui frontend for apt?21:54
vinnlSynaptic, gnome-app-install (aka Add/Remove...)21:54
Odd-rationaleReAn: or you can do the other way around, start with a commnad line install and add what you want...21:54
vinnlYou can even install packagekit to do it :P21:54
vinnlOr Smart Package Manager as well I believe21:54
ReAnOdd-rationale: i did start with a minimal install, but installed xubuntu-desktop21:54
viddthe package name for the games is gnome-games21:55
ReAnso it just installed ~1.1gb of stuff, i wanna trim down the crap i dont want21:55
ReAnlike gnome-games21:55
Odd-rationaleReAn: yeah, xubuntu-desktop does pull in a lot of deps...21:55
favroyou should have synaptic package manager in your menu then21:55
ReAnOdd-rationale: i woulda prefered to build it up one pkg @ a time, but frankly im not that good w/ linux21:55
ReAni was presented with a x-desktop and a x-style console21:55
ReAnso i copped out w/ the bulk package21:56
ReAni really only need a text editor & a web-browser21:56
Odd-rationaleReAn: it is not that difficult... once you are familiar with the command line...21:56
ReAnwell i couldn't find anything online and people here told me to apt-get xubuntu-desktop21:57
Odd-rationaleReAn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems21:57
ReAnmemory isn't really the issue, hdd space is21:57
ReAnand general use21:58
ReAndont need much21:58
ReAnsince it's a VM on my laptop21:58
ReAnbut ill check the link out, thanks21:58
Odd-rationaleReAn: no, that links shows how to build from ground up...21:58
ReAnawesome21:59
ReAnthanks21:59
ReAnjust a misleading title :p21:59
Odd-rationaleuseful for lowend support, but can be used for any system really...\21:59
Odd-rationaleif you don't want the whole xfce stuff, you can even go with fluxbox or openbox, the guide convers those as well...22:00
Odd-rationaleit would be a good idea to be familiar with nano or vim though...22:00

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