[00:13] ScottK, TheMuso: announcement about "last uploads to intrepid" (or anyone else who wants to proofread) [00:13] slangasek: ^^ I included some (hopefully correct) notes about main as well, ok with it? [00:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/62252/ [00:16] looks sane to me [00:17] ok, any other reviews? *g* === csilk_ is now known as csilk [00:19] sistpoty, Could you stick something in there about specifically extra-avoiding updates that will land on any of the distribution images without confirmation with the relevant release team? [00:20] s/team/delegate/ [00:22] persia: I thought distribution building will start only after the archive is frozen? [00:23] persia: or maybe you can just change the pastebin with what you're aiming at? [00:23] sistpoty, Dunno, but as a tester for 60% of the universe flavours, it would make my life easier if the images didn't change that much more. === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [00:24] so when would it be appropriate to start bugging MOTUs about REVU again? I always forget whether the best time is after a release or halfway in between [00:24] coppro: after the release please ;) [00:24] well, I know to wait for Intrepid [00:24] I just can't remember whether I should wait a month or two [00:25] coppro: one week will do [00:25] ok, cool! [00:25] thanks! [00:26] sistpoty, would http://paste.ubuntu.com/62262/ be acceptable? It's mostly that if someone uploads the java plugin, I don't want it to break MID, and if someone uploads a new sound plugin, I don't want it to break Studio, etc. [00:27] coppro, I'd recommend waiting until after open week, as by then the developers are often anxiously awaiting archive open, and looking for something to do. During open week, many of the developers are glad to take a bit of a break. [00:27] persia: oh, ok, cool [00:28] * coppro hopes to finally have a package in the repos come Jaunty [00:28] persia: ah, I see... may I add some whitespace plus a small change? http://paste.ubuntu.com/62263/ [00:28] coppro, You've got them ready, lintian clean for source/binary, and met most of the common objections? [00:29] persia: yes, think so. But there's at least 3 more packages that could be made out of the source package (different language bindings), so I want to get all of those made [00:29] sistpoty, That seems perfect. It's only about test targets, as just because something works in one place doesn't mean it works in another, and for the images, that matters. [00:29] but I want to get the rest right first [00:29] persia: ok, thanks for your input! :) sending mail now [00:33] * persia waits harder for pam_mount, and anxiously awaits better tools [00:35] persia: btw.: what happened to ubuntustudio-menu? [00:35] sistpoty, ScottK provisionally accepted it. I'll get _MMA_ to back the call up as soon as he can get online. [00:36] persia: ah, I see... (just curious, since queuebot in ubuntu-release wrote "removed package") [00:36] "removed package" means either accepted or rejected. [00:36] ah, good to know, thanks persia [00:36] Someone probably needs to teach queuebot to tell the difference, as it seems a common source of confusion. [00:37] thinking again, it does make some sense (removed from queue) [00:38] Precisely :) It's just that the semantics aren't obvious to the casual observer. "New package" was confusing to me when I first saw it as well. [00:40] heh [00:43] Anyone feel like cherrypicking? smc needs more than I can give it. [00:44] * persia is somewhat baffled by Debian bug #502353, which seems unfixed in intrepid (according to the changelog). [00:44] Debian bug 502353 in jhead "jhead: Security issues fixed in 2.84" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/502353 [00:45] zul: I'm unsure about bug #284762, if ScottK actually ACK'd it as ubuntu-server delegate, or just gave ack 1... any clue? [00:45] Launchpad bug 284762 in vm-builder "[FFE] ec2 plugin should be shipped as a separate package" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284762 [00:46] jdong, jdstrand_ What should happen to jhead? [00:47] sistpoty: I thought I was acking a bug fix. [00:47] ScottK: ah, thanks. wasn't clear for me from reading the bug [00:48] persia: well the biggest problem with buffer overflows in all the parsers is fixed [00:49] jdong, Not in intrepid. [00:49] persia: I still have concerns with them using snprintf and directly-read EXIF fields to build system() calls [00:49] persia: oh do we not have 2.84? [00:49] persia: stupid me [00:49] jdong, Nope, and we've an angry Debian. See the bug above. [00:49] jdong, Please fix :) [00:50] persia: ok, I will test out the sync [00:56] persia: Debian version looks good here; I will file a sync request [00:56] jdong, Thanks. Don't forget all the release targeting and getting appropriate approvals. Also, please try to soothe the DM : having them mad at us for a bug that wasn't fixed in our repos just seems extra wrong. [00:57] Especially because we're relying on their work to fix it. [00:58] (well, technically they're mad at Canonical, but that's mostly due to ignorance, I suspect) [01:01] persia: yeah, writing up e-mail atm === woody86_ is now known as woody86 [01:50] Wait, are we being complained at for responsibly disclosing security vulnerabilities to upstream? === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander === chuck_ is now known as zul [03:14] sistpoty: scottk acked it [03:15] zul: yes, thanks, he already told me :) [03:15] k [03:27] * sistpoty must get some sleep now... gn8 everyone [03:29] wgrant, Yes. [03:29] zul, Comments on Debian bug #499282? Do we need that for intrepid? [03:29] Debian bug 499282 in xen-tools "xen-tools: must use hvc0 and xvda by default" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/499282 [03:30] ubottu: superseeded by vmbuilder [03:30] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:30] persia: vmbuilder is the prefered program these days [03:31] zul, OK, so we want a release note, or we want to drop xen-tools from the archive, or we want to fix the bug? [03:31] zul: True, but that doesn't make it wrong to try and make the other tool work, right? [03:31] It is even a bug? For hardy lots of xen stuff was different from Debian and we had lots of RC non-bugs. [03:31] persia: it should already be in the release notes under new features :) [03:32] zul, It's the Errata that concerns me. [03:32] zul, To ask differently : is xen-tools broken? [03:32] If it's broken, what are we doing about it? [03:32] persia: i would drop it, it doesnt really work properly [03:32] Please file a removal bug, and subscribe motu-release and the archive-admins. [03:32] k [03:32] Thanks :) [03:38] Anyone have any suggestions on how to test Debian bug #298364? The changes are from upstream, and targeted fixes to improve Lenny. The package compiles for intrepid without many errors. checkrdepends says there aren't any. [03:38] Debian bug 298364 in gkrellm "gkrellm: lack frequency scaling support" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/298364 [03:39] Err. Debian bug #498364 [03:39] Debian bug 498364 in soqt "=?utf-8?q?soqt=3A_The_examples_crash_and_the_menus_doesn=27t_work=0D=0AHi_St?=" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/498364 [03:39] the bot seriously managed that title .... [03:40] Teach the bot about encoding :) [03:40] NCommander, Space on your plate? [03:40] oh no, if I start hacking on the bot, months will go by, and jaunty+1 will be released [03:41] persia, nope, my plate is currently is as full as I want it to be with wiggle room incase of $CRISIS [03:41] Not for that :) Someone needs to cherrypick the fix for Debian bug #491590, and it's merged in with all sorts of other stuff. [03:41] Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian bugtracker: global name 'ls' is not defined (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491590;mbox=yes) [03:41] o_; [03:42] persia, do you just happen to choose bugs that break the bot? [03:42] * persia has a special list of bugs [03:42] * NCommander winces [03:42] Ugh [03:43] Backporting fixes without a clear patch [03:44] NCommander, Which is why I think of you :) [03:44] * NCommander is reading through the bug [03:45] persia, it seems the segfault is caused by cegui vs smc itself [03:45] Yep. [03:46] Ugh [03:47] I could probably with enough force get cegui to build the misisng module [03:47] But I'm not sure I want to force this into intrepid so close to release [03:47] * NCommander notes that there is a chance of regressions since this appears to have been disabled for some reason upstream [03:47] You think it's SRU material? [03:47] segfaults are classified as SRU [03:48] * NCommander is currently reading through the changelog to make sense of what this maintianer was doing [03:48] Certainly. I just try to avoid SRUs where we can :) It's a judgement call as to whether it's something that needs the extra testing of -proposed. [03:49] * NCommander looks at cegui's rdepends to see how bad things could break [03:49] Seems we don't even ship the soqt examples. syncing because upstream is usually right. [03:49] well, smc is the only rdepend [03:49] So I guess if we break something [03:50] Its only going to break something already broken [03:50] ARGH [03:50] My maintainer just did the one thing to raise my bloodpressure faster than anything else [03:50] s/My/The/g [03:50] cdbs's repack tarball function :-/ [03:51] See, this is part of why I suggest cherrypick :) [03:51] Well, I don't think the new upstream is actually necessary [03:52] That's another part of it :) [03:52] imagemagick's API been stable for a very long time, so I can't see why that would FTBFS [03:53] NCommander: Got time to look at another bug while you're here? [03:53] ScottK, its a FIFO queue, so if you don't mind waiting [03:54] persia, I think the maintainer simply didn't figure out how to enable the SILLY plugin build-depends [03:54] ScottK, what's the bug? [03:54] OK. It's Bug #288931 and since we have an RC and upstream is releasing shortly, it'd be nice to give them a fix or at least a good hint. [03:54] Launchpad bug 288931 in clamav "clamd crashed with SIGSEGV in tcpserver()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288931 [03:54] Is it fixed upstream, and just needs a backport? [03:55] or is it something more sinister? [03:56] persia, ugh, I think we're missing libsilly in Ubuntu [03:57] NCommander, One way to fix the bug is to verify that intrepid isn't affected :) [03:57] persia, intrepid is affected by this bug because we're missing the plugin the game runtime requires [03:57] (hence the crash) [03:57] I think [03:59] persia, once I figure out what the SILLY plugin needs, I can enable it [03:59] Could someone from MOTU Release please review bug #288978? [03:59] Launchpad bug 288978 in soqt "Please sync soqt 1.4.1-6 (universe) from Debian main (unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288978 [03:59] * ScottK looks [04:01] persia, ugh, this is UGLY [04:01] persia: Approved. [04:02] persia: You get to hunt down your own archive-admin to do the sync. I just piled on StevenK a bunch. [04:03] netsplit :-P [04:03] lies [04:04] * NCommander waits for persia's return [04:04] woo [04:04] wb persia [04:07] NCommander: In your free time I'd appreciate it if you'd explain how you tested Bug 260642? [04:07] Launchpad bug 260642 in hardy-backports "please backport freevo" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260642 [04:08] Anyone good with python & Qt4? I think that for Debian bug #488041, we need to apply a patch from the BTS to qscintilla 2.2-4 and update, but I'd like a pair of eyes familiar with the technologies involved to confirm. [04:08] Debian bug 488041 in eric "eric: Eric4 crashes at startup" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/488041 [04:09] ScottK, errrr .... hrm .... [04:09] persia: For that one, nixternal is probably the best person who's likely to be awake right now. [04:10] nixternal? rdepends seem small enough that it probably doesn't need to wait for SRU, and crashes are bad :) [04:10] I have some vague recollections of qscintilla being picky, so I'd be nervous about touching it. [04:11] Especially since the version in sid FTBFS, and so it's pulling patches from the BTS. [04:12] I'm going to try fiddling with our Eric and see how it does. [04:13] persia: What sync did you want done? [04:15] StevenK, jhead and xmoto have the right approvals. I'm still waiting for MOTU Release about soqt. [04:15] persia: jhead is done [04:15] persia: soqt is approved. [04:15] Bug numbers? [04:15] Ah. 271020 still has ubuntu-archive subscribed. MY mistake. [04:16] 288938 is xmoto [04:16] 288978 is soqt [04:16] ScottK, Thanks. [04:17] I saw jhead sitting in the build queue, so I know it's done. [04:18] StevenK: It looks like ubuntu-restricted-extras could use accepting too. I'd thought Hobbsee got that one before she left for work. [04:19] I didn't see it in NEW [04:19] Or it's in unapproved? [04:19] 13:15:44 < Hobbsee> oh, lovely,soyuz fell over *again* did it? [04:19] 13:16:10 < Hobbsee> can someone who isn't me accept u-r-e please? [04:19] Oh, right [04:19] I see it [04:20] u-r-e ACCEPTed [04:20] Thanks. [04:20] Soyuz isn't hanging Launchpad again? How boring. [04:20] Are you done using me as your proxy on cocoplum? :-P [04:21] I'm not sure what was going on there [04:21] StevenK: I need to have kaa-base backported to Hardy to fix an installability bug in hardy-backports. I'm filling out the bug right now. [04:21] * StevenK has never done a backport before [04:22] There's a magic script you run. IIRC the archive wiki page has instructions. Up for it? [04:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration describes it fairly badly. [04:22] Alternatively, I can upload it as a source backport and you could just accept it? [04:23] I've had it explained, I've just not done it [04:23] ScottK: Bug number? [04:24] Bug 288985 [04:24] Launchpad bug 288985 in hardy-backports "Please backport kaa-base 0.4.0-1 from Intrepid to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288985 [04:27] ScottK: Done [04:27] * ScottK notes that TheMuso is awake and can also be harrassed for motu-release acks. [04:27] StevenK: Thanks. [04:29] * persia appreciates that MOTU Release is spread over all three regions this cycle : it has made for significantly better throughput [04:29] StevenK: You might want to unsubscribe ubuntu-archive from 271020 or it'll sit on the bug list with a bunch of open tasks that don't have any archive-admin action. [04:30] ScottK: Done [04:31] Great. Appreciate all the help. [04:31] ScottK: Good. Now you can come to UDS and buy me beer :-P [04:33] ;-) [04:38] StevenK: NCommander is going. He the one that owes beer for kaa-base. [04:39] * NCommander buys ScottK a root bear [04:39] persia, smc: Depends: libcegui-mk2-dev (>= 0.5.0-2) but it is not going to be installed [04:39] NCommander: is that like smokey the bear only for security practices rather than fire prevention? [04:39] If that does not shout bug, I dunno what does [04:40] NCommander, Yep. smc is *all sorts* of broken. That's how things end up in the RCbugs list. [04:40] Do we want to fix that? [04:40] * NCommander assumes so [04:40] Ideally, we want a package that actually works. [04:40] I'm testing that now [04:40] Not necessarily bug-free, but at least not known to be an SRU candidate when it releases. [04:40] NCommander: We want to fix everything. We don't always get what we want. [04:40] :-) [04:40] persia, two debdiffs coming up [04:41] persia, Reason : Couldn't find matching GLX visual [04:41] persia, do you have a graphics card that supports OpenGL? [04:41] NCommander, I can't do much with them. subscribe MOTU Release. Get an ACK, and get back to me. Put the bug number on the RCbugs page. [04:41] I can test OpenGl stuff. [04:41] * NCommander has opengl issues on this laptop [04:43] persia, http://pastebin.ca/1236186 [04:43] MOTU Release : any thoughts on me sponsoring bug #261962? [04:43] Launchpad bug 261962 in twiki "Merge twiki 4.1.2-4 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261962 [04:43] persia, I'm going to see if I can make openGL do SOMETHING on this machine, BRB [04:43] NCommander, I haven't been able to route to pastebin.ca for months. Please put it in a bug. [04:44] Bother. timing. Anyone who can route willing to put that on paste.ubuntu.com or something? [04:46] persia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62336/ [04:46] wgrant, Thank you.l [04:46] My routing to them sometimes works. [04:46] Today was a good day, it seems. [04:46] It breaks for you sometimes? Would it be about 20% of the time? [04:47] persia: If it's technically the right fix, go for it (twiki). [04:47] I find that more often that not I won't be able to get there. [04:48] Or it'll take a few minutes. [04:49] Hmm. more often than not probably means it's not just Japan <-> Canada, as most of your packets shouldn't come here, most of the time. [04:52] ScottK, Thanks. Looking more deeply, I suspect I need to confer with sebner. [04:52] OK. [04:52] persia: I looked at it earlier and scratched my head. [04:53] ScottK, That's about where I am now. It looked tempting, but it can wait a few hours while I look at other bugs, and sebner wakes up. [04:55] NCommander, FYI : I can't reliably get to pastebin.ca. Anyway, I have your patch. Looks reasonable, but I'm curious how this fixes the smc issue. [04:55] 3 minutes just isn't long enough sometimes. [05:00] NCommander, FYI : I can't reliably get to pastebin.ca. Anyway, I have your patch. Looks reasonable, but I'm curious how this fixes the smc issue [05:00] persia, back [05:00] persia, with acceleration [05:00] persia, the smc issue is that libcegui lacks PNG support [05:00] so the game crash and burns when cegui throws an exception about not being able to option png files [05:00] Adding PNG support magicially fixes smc [05:00] (I just played through the first level, so it works) [05:01] magic is good :) Now it just needs a bug report and the appropriate approvals, and a comment in rcbugs, and I'll upload. Thanks for looking into that. [05:01] persia, smc probably shouldn't depend on the -dev package [05:01] * ScottK sprinles holy water on the fix. [05:01] That pulls in a whole nasty chain of dependencies [05:02] ... sprinkles ... [05:02] ScottK, no, I don't get normal bugs do I :-) [05:03] NCommander, It depends on why. Sometimes people put odd things in -dev packages. Changing the package split is probably more bad than having smc have a large dependency chain for intrepid. [05:03] * NCommander looks at libcegui's dev package [05:04] persia, [05:04] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/libcegui-mk2-dev/filelist [05:04] If smc depends on development headers [05:04] I think I'd run in fear [05:04] NCommander, Well, you check, and I'll watch you, and when you start sprinting, I'll know the dependency is correct. [05:05] Lets just get libcegui fixed first [05:05] * NCommander rather get the RC bug nailed [05:06] That's the spirit :) [05:06] * NCommander takes off sprinting [05:06] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cegui-mk2/+bug/93961 [05:06] That makes me said [05:06] Ubuntu bug 93961 in cegui-mk2 "Library packaging problem" [Medium,In progress] [05:06] *sad [05:07] 102 files changed, 11920 insertions(+), 7337 deletions(-) : Well, we don't need gossip to conserve bandwidth and CPU time anyway. [05:09] persia, o_o; [05:10] persia, do I need an MOTU to ACK my change before subscribing -release? [05:10] * NCommander remembers what happened with archive and doesn't really care for a repeat [05:13] Fricking Thunderbird plugin works great here. [05:13] ScottK, I'll test tommorow, if we can't reproduce, then the segfault must be some other crazyness [05:14] ScottK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cegui-mk2/+bug/288990 - care to overlook this and provide some sort ACK? [05:14] Ubuntu bug 288990 in cegui-mk2 "Patch to add PNG support to correct segfault in smc" [Undecided,New] [05:15] persia, I'm going to guess that Hardy is also effected [05:22] ScottK, do you have a Hardy box? [05:23] Yes. My kids PC is Hardy. [05:24] ScottK, any chance I can get you to verify a bug on Hardy? [05:24] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cegui-mk2/+bug/288990 - mainly, install smc, and then see if it segfaults? [05:24] ScottK: Kubuntu? [05:24] Ubuntu bug 288990 in cegui-mk2 "Patch to add PNG support to correct segfault in smc" [High,In progress] [05:24] ScottK: Ah, and if it's Kubuntu, KDE 3 or 4? [05:25] Kubuntu KDE3 [05:25] You don't even give them choice of Gnome? :-P === LucidFox is now known as LucidFox_KOTOR34 [05:26] StevenK: They get that at the library. [05:26] ScottK, I'd appreciate it if you could test that for me :-) [05:26] The public library in the county I live in has all Ubuntu for their public computers. [05:27] NCommander: the png thingy is ack'ed. [05:27] StevenK: Besides, it just feels wrong to me. [05:28] * StevenK ponders if his amd64 box will require 'all_generic_ide irqpoll' to boot [05:28] (On Intrepid) [05:28] Actually I was at a new local Python interest group meeting last night and the presenter was using Ubuntu Hardy. [05:28] I thought it looked kind of tired next to my KDE4 Intrepid. [05:28] * NCommander has seen Ubuntu in the wild more and more often [05:30] There were ~15 people at the meeting and only two of them were willing to confess using Windows for their Python programming. [05:30] ScottK: yes, KDE4 Intrepid looks nice [05:30] * StevenK has never used Windows for Python [05:31] Anyone in the mood to upload something? [05:31] * StevenK is fixing somethig [05:31] StevenK: works quite well if you like to ship 30MB of library and other stuff with your 1k python script :) (that was my try with gtk+gstreamer (cairo and all other dependencies included)) [05:31] s/g/ng/ [05:32] ScottK, ? [05:32] stgraber: Haha [05:32] stgraber: libgtk on Windows is so horrid, though [05:32] StevenK, its not quite as bad as it used to be [05:32] NCommander: Do I need to walk over to the box or can I ssh in and do it that way? [05:32] ScottK, probably walk over and do it since it requires a GL terminal [05:33] Urgh. [05:33] ScottK, you can upload the fix for intrepid instead [05:33] ;-) [05:33] ScottK: ssh -X for the win [05:33] No. I'm really tired, so I don't want to do any uploading right now. [05:33] StevenK, won't work for OpenGL applications [05:33] StevenK: I basically had to ship my own gtk (+ cairo, pango, ...), then my own gstreamer (and all the modules), then python and some other .dll. But well, then I had a big .zip that once extracted was able to run my python script without any change :) [05:33] o_O; [05:34] NCommander: Does it matter what kind of video I have in the box? [05:34] ScottK, it needs to support 2D acceleration [05:34] the problem is when you have gstreamer needing a specific gtk and the gimp on the same box needs another, then it becomes funny [05:34] stgraber, I realize python's slogan is Batteries Included, but that sounds like pure hell on Windows [05:34] NCommander: It's an Intel 965 something integrated graphics card. [05:34] ScottK, your millage may vary then ;-) [05:35] So if it doesn't crash that doesn't tell you anything. [05:35] ScottK, it just won't run without acceleration [05:35] Ah. [05:35] OK. I'll go try it. [05:35] thank you scottk [05:35] smc is the binary package? [05:36] I'm sitting in front of a Hardy amd64 machine with some Nvidia card [05:36] yup [05:36] StevenK, apt-get install smc && smc [05:36] * ScottK waits. [05:37] Trying to find a bug [05:37] So I can get ScottK to approve an upload [05:38] I need to sift through the 19,000 messages in my inbox [05:39] persia: Are you uploading NCommander's png fix? [05:39] ScottK: Bug 288876 [05:39] Launchpad bug 288876 in asterisk-spandsp-plugins "asterisk-app-fax is uninstallable due to conflict on libspandsp1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288876 [05:40] ScottK, I'm available to upload stuff : I'm happier if someone else tests right now. [05:41] StevenK: Go for it. [05:41] persia: OK. I'm just about to go collapse. [05:41] ScottK, Sleep well. [05:42] ScottK: Do you want a debdiff, or can I take your "Go for it" as a "Just approve any fix you see fit" ? [05:42] persia, I tested it on intrepid, but I think it also affects Hardy [05:43] NCommander, OK. Missed that. BTW, bug #28890 is against tzsetup and server-install. Is that the correct bug number? [05:43] Launchpad bug 28890 in tzsetup "timezones restricted to those matching the location" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28890 [05:43] bug #288990 [05:43] Launchpad bug 288990 in cegui-mk2 "Patch to add PNG support to correct segfault in smc" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288990 [05:43] ^- persia === LucidFox_KOTOR34 is now known as LucidFox [05:46] NCommander, I'm approving the Hardy task only so it doesn't disappear. Be prepared for motu-SRU to be annoyed if you can't trace it soonsih. [05:46] persia, either StevenK or ScottK will be able to make sure it exists [05:46] NCommander, Quite likely : it's just yours to make sure that happens :) [05:46] (its the same package versions of smc and cegui) [05:47] Right, I'm just saying its extremely unlikely the bug does not exist [05:47] That's my impression as well :) [05:47] ScottK: Bug 288876 updated with a debdiff [05:47] Launchpad bug 288876 in asterisk-spandsp-plugins "asterisk-app-fax is uninstallable due to conflict on libspandsp1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288876 [05:47] I totally can't reproduce this clamav crash. [05:48] StevenK: OK. [05:48] persia, so does this also mean the patch is getting uploaded for intrepid? [05:49] NCommander, Well, it means I'm currently reviewing the patch with the intent of uploading it to intrepid. I'll let you know if I find any reason to reject it. [05:49] * NCommander nods [05:52] * NCommander can't believe its only 5 days to release [05:52] WTH did October go? [05:52] it was eaten by a halloween monster [05:52] I need to make sure my travel arrangements for UDS are up to date [05:53] Since I just got the last day cleared :-/ [05:53] * NCommander figures he tries to change it for an entire month, and then the day after he gets confirmed .... [05:53] argh [05:53] Story of my life [05:56] Well it looks like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6663 is a decent plugin. Someone ought to package it. [05:56] ScottK, it almost sounds like you changed your mail reader ... [05:56] file a bug against mozilla-extensions : that team seems to be mostly on top of things. [05:56] NCommander: For the purposes of testing, yes. [05:57] ScottK, I'm going to guess your a mutt user, aren't you :-P [05:57] * NCommander runs [05:57] NCommander: No. Kmail. [05:57] * NCommander uses (al)pine until relatively recently [05:57] s/uses/used/g [05:58] If an app ships with .class (bytecode) files with .jar files and no plain text source, is this app violating the GPLv2 under which it's released? [05:59] csilk, Not as long as it comes with an offer of the source : read the GPL. [05:59] .class files within .jar files [05:59] * NCommander looks forward to dapper leaving desktop support in less than a year [05:59] However offer of the source is not good enough to get it into the main repositories. [06:00] ScottK, It is if exercised, and the source is included when uploaded to the main repos. [06:00] True. [06:00] * csilk reading the gpl [06:00] There are a few packages like that in the archive. [06:01] "that you receive source code or can get it [06:01] if you want it," [06:01] Looks like I need to check if I can get it then [06:01] persia: Is mozilla-extensions a package or a project? [06:03] persia: Actually that team just claims to do Firefox. This is Thunderbird. [06:03] ScottK, Hrm. I'm just parroting. It seems to be a team. [06:03] I found it as a team, but just for FF. [06:04] I thought I saw asac tell someone to "file a bug against mozilla extensions" for a thunderbird plugin recently. Maybe #ubuntu-mozillateam has a better pointer? [06:04] I think I'm going to go to bed. [06:04] Any last ack requests? [06:04] Go to bed. There are other M-R people. [06:05] Really? Who? :-) [06:06] Hopefully TheMuso. [06:08] * StevenK prods TheMuso [06:08] I'm still here if you need something else. [06:08] ScottK: You didn't ack my bug :-) [06:08] BTW, there are buildd's idle. [06:09] * TheMuso is around. [06:09] Oh, you want me to actually mark it in the bug? [06:09] ScottK: Isn't that the usual? [06:10] It depends. [06:10] I did mark it in the bug. [06:10] Usually I go with vague mutterings on IRC that people can interpret how they like and selectively copy/paste into the bug to justify their actions. [06:11] ScottK: I don't, since I'm going to ssh to cocoplum and accept it [06:11] ScottK: Hence wanting your blessing [06:11] Right. [06:11] TheMuso: Bug 274062 is looking for a second ack. [06:11] Launchpad bug 274062 in jd "[FFe] Please sync jd 2.0.2-080919-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274062 [06:12] Have a good night everyone. [06:12] ScottK: Night [06:14] persia, do you need anything else from me on smc? (I'm debating lying down) [06:32] NCommander, Nothing. Sleep well. [06:37] NCommander, uploaded.w [06:46] 50 files changed, 7151 insertions(+), 3091 deletions(-) : spamassassin isn't going to protect against images containing words as well as it might. [07:00] Does anyone understand the intracacies of strtol() vs. atoi() ? I think we just want the small patch from Debian bug #502072, but I don't really understand what it's doing. [07:00] Debian bug 502072 in apt-cacher-ng "apt-cacher-ng refuses to start via init script" [Grave,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/502072 [07:11] Could someone from MOTU Release please check bug #289008 ? [07:11] Launchpad bug 289008 in dansguardian "Please sync dansguardian 2.9.9.4-1+lenny1 (universe) from Debian main (lenny)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289008 [07:16] morning [07:19] didrocks, Good morning. Do you already have a pet bug, or would you like to adopt an orphan? [07:25] persia: ACK. [07:25] Outstanding grave bugs reviewed. eric needs someone familiar with qscintilla2, apt-cacher-ng needs someone familiar with strtol() vs. atoi(). There's a couple SRU candidates, but those can wait. [07:25] TheMuso, On dansguardian? [07:25] persia: yes. [07:25] Thank you. [07:26] I didn't subscribe ubuntu-archive [07:26] If I understand the process correctly, I'm supposed to do that, so no worries :) [07:26] (it's now done). [07:33] persia: hum, no, and I can give some love to one, if you want :) [07:33] didrocks, Great. http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ has a list of all the RC bugs fixed in Debian for which Ubuntu has an older version. [07:34] I've been going through them to check to see if 1) they apply to Ubuntu, 2) We already applied the fix, 3) there's a reasonable patch that might get approved by the release team. [07:35]