[00:00] <ardchoille> Will ibex be an LTS release?
[00:00] <notriddle> ardchoille: No.
[00:00] <ardchoille> ok
[00:01] <notriddle> ardchoille: Hardy is LTS, though.
[00:01] <ardchoille> ah, thanks
[00:01] <notriddle> !hardy
[00:01] <notriddle> !intrepid
[00:01] <ardchoille> wait, I have Hardy and someone told me it wasn't LTS
[00:01] <jannott> !9.04
[00:02] <notriddle> !9.10
[00:02] <jannott> :)
[00:02] <notriddle> !7.10
[00:02] <jannott> !1.04
[00:02] <notriddle> !7.04
[00:03] <notriddle> !6.04
[00:03] <favro> !dapper
[00:03] <blip-> !7.04
[00:03] <notriddle> !warty
[00:03] <ardchoille> !botabuse
[00:03] <blip-> !diaper
[00:04] <Roger_Klotz> can anyone give me the command to disable visual effects from terminal in KDE? Im in failsafe startup right now because I get a black screen after normal login
[00:05] <Roger_Klotz> and it only started happening when I enabled effects
[00:06] <notriddle> Roger_Klotz: You can disable KWin compositing by setting the Enabled option under [Compositing] to false in ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc.
[00:10] <Roger_Klotz> notriddle: where do I add the [compositing]
[00:11] <notriddle> Roger_Klotz: The kwinrc is divided into sections. Isn't there a [Compositing] section in it?
[00:11] <Roger_Klotz> i can get to it after using chmod, but i get line 4: [Compositing]: command not found
[00:12] <notriddle> edit kwinrc, it's a configuration file...
[00:12] <Roger_Klotz> im in failsafe mode, how would I do that in terminal
[00:12] <emma> Any of you ever use firefox or do you stick with konqueror?
[00:12] <notriddle> nano should give a very easy editor...
[00:12] <notriddle> emma: I stick with Konqueror, though I know a lot of people use FF.
[00:13] <emma> So it's not blasphemy to put FF on your kubuntu?
[00:13] <favro> emma: not at all
[00:13] <favro> !foss
[00:13] <Roger_Klotz> notriddle: ty for helping a noob
[00:13] <Roger_Klotz> :D
[00:13] <notriddle> emma: It depends on who you talk to. I don't find it blasphemy to do it, though you do get a bunch of new "stuff"...
[00:14] <justin_> can anyone help me with mobile hardware settings?
[00:14] <emma> notriddle: FF is not a gnome app though eh?
[00:14] <notriddle> Roger_Klotz: yw.
[00:14] <Roger_Klotz> how do i save changes and exit now?
[00:14] <ardchoille> Roger_Klotz: ctrl+o  and then  ctrl+x
[00:14] <notriddle> emma: It is in some ways a GNOME app, however you can use GNOME apps on KDE, KDE apps on GNOME, XFCE apps on GNOME, XFCE apps on KDE........
[00:15] <emma> well i don't really like the idea of putting any GNOME app on my KDE.
[00:15] <emma> konqueror works pretty well.
[00:15] <notriddle> emma: GNOME's main relation with FF is that they provide quite a few pieces of framework for FF, so by installing FF, you install parts of GNOME.
[00:16] <emma> It would be neat if someone would make a KDE FF
[00:16] <notriddle> emma: Okay, then use Konqueror. Actually, I think there is an effort to do that.
[00:16] <emma> That would be nice.
[00:17] <ardchoille> emma: also, some folks like opera, but I don't think it's open source
[00:17] <emma> Nope it's not.
[00:17] <MellowDude> FF works great for me
[00:17] <emma> I also don't like how opera tries to do a million things at once.
[00:17] <MellowDude> fast after a few little tweaks
[00:17] <ardchoille> yeah
[00:18] <ardchoille> I like firefox too, my bank website doesn't work in konqueror regardless of the fake user agent
[00:18] <notriddle> try #ubuntu-bots, asking what is the best web browser.
[00:18] <ardchoille> Konqueror keeps asking me to install flash for some websites. I don't want to install or use flash. How do I make konqueror stop asking me about it?
[00:18] <notriddle> ardchoille: FF also asks, though in a passive popup instead of a non-passive one.
[00:19] <ardchoille> I must have turned that off for ff
[00:20] <ardchoille> Kubuntu just keeps getting better and better :)
[00:20] <coreymon77> why is everyone in all of my channels bashing ff all of a sudden
[00:21] <blip-> korea
[00:22] <Under_Wraps> Opera is closed source but free
[00:22] <ardchoille> That's what I thought
[00:23] <coreymon77> opera=bloated piece of poo imo
[00:23] <Under_Wraps> lets not go there ;)
[00:23] <coreymon77> well, atleast we can all agree on something
[00:23] <coreymon77> internet explorer sucks
[00:24] <coreymon77> ;)
[00:24] <Under_Wraps> agreed
[00:24] <blip-> that reminds me,  i need to install ie4linux
[00:24] <coreymon77> why exactly?
[00:24] <blip-> to check what websites i create look like for M$ users :)
[00:25] <blip-> although i'm starting to pay less attention to them,  i actually wrote on the site:  "Page best viewed with Mozilla Firefox browser under Linux enviroment"  :D
[00:25] <ardchoille> blip-:  It's nice that you think about your visitors like that, good job
[00:25] <emma> Any plans to put pulse audio into kubuntu in one of the next releases?
[00:29] <coreymon77> blip-: as long as it is firefox, it really makes no difference what enviroment it is
[00:31] <blip-> coreymon77: true.  but it's cool to make them think they aren't getting the best experience by using windows. lol
[00:38] <int20> hi all
[00:39] <blip-> hi int20
[00:39] <int20> how I can detect my dial-up modem in kubuntu? I have samsung r40 laptop
[00:40] <blip-> int20: i did that last summer, you'll need to first find out if you have a winmodem ie windows software based modem or a proper modem.  this website was an excellent resource   http://www.linmodems.org/
[00:41] <int20> blip-: yes I was google this site
[00:41] <blip-> int20: i don't know of any kubuntu/ubuntu specific things that make your linux modem life easier
[00:41] <int20> blip-: ok, thx :)
[00:41] <blip-> int20: they have a script that will scan and tell you your modem.  you're welcome.   good luck :)
[00:42] <favro> !kppp
[00:42] <int20> blip-: this script at linmodems don't gunzipped
[00:42] <int20> :(
[00:42] <ardchoille> !modem
[00:43] <int20> and http://www.heby.de/ltmodem - 404
[00:43] <int20> ScanModem Tool - don't work :(
[00:44] <blip-> int20: why not ?    use Ark to uncompress it
[00:45] <int20> "An error occured white trying to open the archive"
[00:46] <ardchoille> int20: use file to find out what kind of file it is: file /path/file
[00:46] <coreymon77> lol dialup
[00:47] <blip-> int20: maybe your file is corrupted.  download again.   i just downloaded and uncompressed it succesfully
[00:47] <ardchoille> there are some areas which still dont have dsl
[00:47] <jannott> amazing
[00:47] <blip-> some areas as in 90% of the planet
[00:47] <int20> Yeah, I don't have DSL at my travels
[00:48] <coreymon77> blip-: thats because most of the planet is water
[00:48] <blip-> come to think of it,  a lot of asia probably has DSL too
[00:48] <blip-> coreymon77: lol
[00:49] <buntu> hey I notice some games on kubuntu 8.04 don't have a fullscreen option, is there any programs in kubuntu to allow me to change a window's size?
[00:49] <blip-> i wonder if russia has DSL widespread, specially the western region
[00:49] <blip-> buntu: the window manager it self should let you
[00:50] <blip-> buntu: meaning click the top left icon --> advanced --> fullscreen  (although maybe it becomes disabled in 3d games)
[00:50] <buntu> hmm but the max option (top right) dosen't appear so can't do it there = (
[00:51] <buntu> in games i mean
[00:51] <buntu> oh never tried the left, i see it now thx ill check that = )
[00:52] <int20> blip-: hmmmm. can you send me this file? plllls. :) Unfortunately, my ark don't unpack this file. :(
[00:52] <ladycrossfader> hello
[00:52] <ladycrossfader> hola
[00:53] <blip-> int20: try checking if gunzip is installed on your system
[00:53] <ladycrossfader> i love ubuntu
[00:54] <int20> blip-: yes, gunzip installed on my system
[00:54] <ardchoille> blip-: it may not be an archive.
[00:55] <blip-> ardchoille: it's just a .gz
[00:55] <ardchoille> you can rename virus.exe to package.tar.gz and konq sees it as an archive
[00:55] <ardchoille> file /path/file  <- will tell you what it really is
[00:55] <blip-> ardchoille: lol.   this one is good i cfilehecked it with
[00:56] <blip-> *checked it with file
[00:56] <ardchoille> ok
[00:56] <blip-> int20: i can upload it for you, but you should get the decompression problem sorted out.
[00:58] <int20> blip-: ok. I have find the mirror of linmodems (http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html) now I try download this file from .il location.
[00:58] <blip-> int20:  here you go,    http://www.quickfilepost.com/download.do?get=0aa7f43412f11f3afa6def9c72694e95
[01:02] <int20> blip-: thanks!
[01:06] <blip-> int20: np
[01:09] <blip-> emma: hi,  you mentioned pulseAudio a while ago,  what exactly does it do for you ?   My system sound is currently working in Amarok and skype... is it worth moving to pulse Audio ?   thanks
[01:11] <emma> blip-: I doubt it. I've heard that it lets you adjust volume control differently in each app.
[01:11] <ardchoille> that's a nice featrue
[01:11] <ardchoille> *feature
[01:12] <emma> blip-:  They put pulse audio into Ubuntu (gnome version) Hardy, and it caused a lot of people headaches. Kubuntu seems to have wisely avoided that snafu.
[01:12] <emma> still, pulse audio was put into ubuntu (gnome version) because it is the latest new thing, and eventually kubuntu should probably put it in there, avoiding the mistakes.
[01:13] <blip-> emma: yes i read about that feature... while it sounds cool i don't see any real world benefit.   i mean how hard is it to modify volume when i pop in a dvd vs when i was talking on skype.
[01:13] <emma> pulse audio also lets you play audio on your network I believe.
[01:13] <blip-> actually the reason i'm interested is because my laptop mic doesn't work... neither in sound recorders nor skype... maybe pulse audio will help
[01:14] <emma> so, i could be wrong about this, I think you could play music through speakers on a machine different from the machine where the files are located.
[01:19] <MellowDude> u know what i like about linux
[01:20] <MellowDude> i can ghost a 40 gig hard dirve and make it an 80 gig
[01:20] <MellowDude> :)
[01:21] <raylitalo> Bash question here: how do you test to see if an argument to a bash script was supplied or not?
[01:21] <raylitalo> I'm thinking of something like: if "$1" == "" then
[01:22] <raylitalo> I suppose I'm a pest--a google search would handle this kind of question....
[01:22] <ardchoille> raylitalo: I've found #bash to be a great help with bash scripts
[01:22] <raylitalo> ardchoille: I need anything that is a great help: what is #bash?
[01:22] <ardchoille> it's another channel here on freenode
[01:23] <ardchoille> type: /join #bash
[01:23] <raylitalo> ah--great!  Thanks!
[01:23] <ardchoille> yw
[01:23] <raylitalo> I don't think I'd survive withtout irc
[01:23] <ardchoille> same here
[01:25]  * mjbt38 is away: Gone away for now.
[01:25]  * Emjay is back.
[01:35] <int20> I want to copy my DVD with Kubuntu to my disk. How I can write commant in bash? cp /media/Kubuntu ... /* [destination]? I want to use destination for local repository
[01:36] <int20> *command
[01:36] <Darthfrog> cp -r
[01:36] <Darthfrog> or cp -a
[01:37] <guille> j
[01:37] <int20> Darthfrog: thanks. I can use this data files (from my DVD) as repository after that?
[01:37] <guille> como hago para montar mi propio servidor???????????
[01:37] <Darthfrog> int20: If you set it up properly in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:38] <int20> Darthfrog: ok
[01:38] <Darthfrog> int20: That's where the repositories are configured.
[01:39] <guille> quiero montar mi propio servidor web con ubuntu como hago????????????????'
[01:40] <Darthfrog> !es | guille
[01:41] <int20> hmmm.
[01:41] <int20> !ru | int20
[01:41] <int20> !lv | int20
[01:41] <int20> !lt | int20
[01:41] <int20> :( No information about Latvia and Lithuania :]
[01:42] <Darthfrog> int20: Please try "/msg ubottu !<topic>"
[01:42] <int20> Darthfrog: ok, excuse me
[01:42] <Darthfrog> np.  And you don't need the "|int20
[01:42] <Darthfrog> for yourself. :-)
[01:43] <int20> :)
[01:51] <ryan-c> Does anyone know why the audiocd kioslave would be giving me permission denied accessing audiocd:/dev/scd0?  Perms on the device are 660, user root, group cdrom, and my account is in the cdrom group.
[01:51] <ryan-c> (Kubuntu 8.04)
[01:52] <ryan-c> nvm, it apparently needs a /dev/cdrom -> /dec/scd0 symlink
[01:03] <philip_> hey
[01:03] <philip_> i need help
[01:03] <philip_> help with sound card needed
[01:03] <favro> !sound
[01:04] <philip_> ok thanks testing that
[01:05] <philip_> What is ARTS?
[01:05] <favro> !info arts
[01:05] <philip_> !info arts
[01:05] <philip_> how can i enable it?
[01:06] <favro> it says it is optional so look in adept to see if it is installed
[01:06] <favro> first
[01:06] <philip_> ok
[01:06] <philip_> adept manager?
[01:06] <favro> yep
[01:06] <philip_> k
[01:06] <philip_> thanks checking that
[01:07] <favro> :)
[01:07] <philip_> it's installed but it says i can upgrade it
[01:08] <philip_> would arts-dbg make a difference?
[01:08] <favro> first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked.
[01:08] <philip_> enable the sound system is checked
[01:08] <favro> I don't think so - dbg is debug afaik
[01:08] <philip_> ok
[01:08] <NamShub> wouldnt the first step check if the sound card work at all? (type: mpg123 file.mp3)
[01:09] <philip_> found an audio plugin im trying
[01:09] <favro> I use   aplay -l   in konsole to see if my card is recognized
[01:09] <philip_> what do u mean nabshub?
[01:09] <philip_> ok how can i get there?
[01:09] <favro> mpg123 is not installed by default
[01:09] <philip_> so should i search for it in adept?
[01:10] <favro> use aplay -l in konsole
[01:10] <philip_> where's konsole?
[01:10] <favro> kmenu-system-konsole
[01:10] <philip_> k
[01:10] <philip_> o the terminal
[01:11] <favro> or alt+F2 and type konsole
[01:11] <philip_> so now what do i do there?
[01:11] <favro> type   aplay -l   to list audio devices
[01:11] <philip_> ok i know thx
[01:11] <philip_> typed it
[01:11] <favro> what did it return/
[01:11] <philip_> ill paste it here
[01:11] <favro> !paste]
[01:12] <favro> !paste
[01:12] <philip_> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[01:12] <philip_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC861VD Analog [ALC861VD Analog]
[01:12] <philip_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:12] <philip_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:12] <philip_> it wont flood.
[01:12] <stdin> philip_: please use the pastebin in future
[01:12] <philip_> ok sorry about that
[01:12] <favro> so your card is recognised - in konsole still type   alsamixer   and turn things up
[01:13] <philip_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/62677/
[01:13] <philip_> ok i did
[01:14] <Lynx-O> if I use the 8.10 RC will it be easyto update to the new one on the 31st?
[01:14] <narex> sorry for stupid question - if i have "quakenet #notpron" what I must to do to log on that chat (in konversation)
[01:14] <favro> philip_: any sound working?
[01:14] <philip_> when does 8.10 come out?
[01:15] <favro> !ibex
[01:15] <philip_> no well it's restarting system
[01:15] <philip_> so im gonna see what happens theb
[01:15] <philip_> then
[01:15] <philip_> i mean the sound system
[01:15] <favro> k
[01:15] <philip_> where was the pastebin again
[01:15] <philip_> it's useful
[01:16] <favro>  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <stdin> narex: press F7 and put in the server irc.quakenet.org, then when you're connected type: /join #notpron
[01:16] <philip_> k thanks
[01:16] <philip_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/62679/
[01:16] <philip_> thats what i got now
[01:16] <philip_> on my sound mixer
[01:16] <stdin> Lynx-O: yeah, you just keep updated
[01:17] <philip_> Can i post pics on the pastebin
[01:17] <favro> nope - there are pic pastebins about tho
[01:17] <philip_> o cool
[01:17] <Bones122> atheros = atherosclerosis
[01:17] <philip_> no sound so far
[01:18] <favro> any speaker icon at bottom left?
[01:18] <philip_> yeah
[01:18] <Bones122> !atherosclerosis
[01:18] <favro> bottom right I meant...
[01:18] <philip_> no i moved it earlier
[01:18] <philip_> u were right... lol
[01:18] <favro> right click it and use pcm as master
[01:18] <favro> hehe
[01:19] <philip_> i hit ok
[01:19] <philip_> on pcm
[01:19] <philip_> testing now
[01:19] <philip_> ugh no diff
[01:19] <favro> and all in alsamixer are turned up?
[01:19] <philip_> yeah but in the sound setting what should i choose for hardware
[01:19] <narex> stdin: danke:D
[01:20] <philip_> the audio device
[01:20] <favro> there should be default and your sond card as options - use your sound card
[01:20] <philip_> i dont have that there
[01:21] <philip_> i just have the default one
[01:21] <philip_> ones* like OSS linux architecture etc.
[01:21] <favro> alsa is what I'd use first
[01:22] <philip_> i did
[01:22] <philip_> my pcm is set 2   90<>90
[01:22] <philip_> hey dolo
[01:23] <favro> try it using master instead of pcm
[01:23] <philip_> ok
[01:23] <philip_> testing...
[01:24] <philip_> no diff
[01:24] <philip_> in the alsa the speaker setting seems to be pink maybe thats default or something i wouldn't no
[01:24] <philip_> know
[01:25] <philip_> hey!!! no diff
[01:25] <philip_> i hate having driver issues
[01:25] <philip_> if ur interested in knowing the reason im on kubuntu it's cuz my vista got curropted
[01:25] <philip_> corrupted
[01:26] <philip_> ill post
[01:26] <philip_> an image online then provide link here
[01:27] <philip_> btw im on a laptop
[01:28] <philip_> anybody else know about that
[01:28] <favro> what does   lsmod | grep snd   return?
[01:28] <philip_> sound card stuff
[01:28] <philip_> idk lemme try that
[01:29] <philip_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/62682/
[01:30] <philip_> that
[01:31] <favro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845 - is a howto for your card
[01:31] <philip_> Thank u for all the help u r giving me wether it works or not still thanks
[01:31] <favro> np
[01:32] <what_if> posted a bug about dolphin, if I could get some to verify https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/289338
[01:33] <philip_> ok so what would i do i don't really get the forum post
[01:33] <what_if> handles previews of large image files poorly :(
[01:33] <philip_> OH, how much memory do u have?
[01:33] <philip_> to what if
[01:33] <what_if> 1gb
[01:34] <ardchoille> I haven't been able to make "view hidden files" persistent in dolphin so I don't use it
[01:34] <philip_> o i have 512 megs upgrading 2 2 soon
[01:35] <what_if> philip_: even with that the bug I posted would bring the system to a crawl, lol
[01:35] <mjbt38> Sysinfo for 'BlackBox': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz at 3502 MHz (7006 bogomips), HD: 122/227GB, RAM: 1997/2014MB, 127 proc's, 2.7d up
[01:35] <mjbt38> anyone watch ufc i have a streaming link to tonights fights
[01:35] <philip_> that forum post (favro) tells me that i think im gonna try with headphones
[01:35] <philip_> stay on topic
[01:35] <philip_> i mean like ubuntu chats
[01:35] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[01:36] <mjbt38> lol
[01:36] <philip_> Wow i was right
[01:37] <philip_> do u guys like Konquerer?
[01:37] <philip_> i mean is there firefox for kubuntu
[01:37] <philip_> yeah there is just checked
[01:37] <Reed_Solomon> yes and yes
[01:37] <ardchoille> philip_: you can run gnome apps in kde, firefox runs nicely in kubuntu
[01:37] <what_if> konqueror > dolphin
[01:38] <philip_> Makes sense
[01:38] <favro> philip_: from aplay -l was a code listed For example: "Code:ALC861VD/660VD"?
[01:38] <philip_> i was surprised it doesnt come with GIMp
[01:38] <philip_> lemme see
[01:38] <philip_> idk
[01:39] <philip_> no there wasn't
[01:39] <philip_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/62683/
[01:40] <philip_> favro: there it is
[01:40] <philip_> that's what i got on that thig
[01:40] <philip_> thing
[01:40] <philip_> srry for my mispellin
[01:43] <favro> philip_: Changing or adding the following sentence: options snd-hda-intel model=3stack ) into the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file.
[01:43] <favro> do that
[01:44] <philip_> how do i do that is my question
[01:44] <philip_> I am so unfamiliar with the terminal.... i know the cmd and maybe even the mac terminal but not the linux one
[01:44] <philip_> i once knew how to untar thought not anymore
[01:45] <favro> alt+F2 then type kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:45] <philip_> k
[01:45] <favro> and as the last line add    options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[01:46] <philip_> what u mean the last line when i hit alt f2 or after once alsa base opens?
[01:46] <favro> add it as the last line in the file
[01:47] <philip_> k
[01:48] <philip_> saved it
[01:48] <philip_> now what
[01:49] <favro> needs a reboot
[01:49] <philip_> k rebooting brb
[01:53] <billyd> anyone know how to force the opening screen in Kooka to come up.. I've un-installed and re-installed, purged and re-installe til I could puke??
[01:53] <philip_> back
[01:54] <favro> billyd: I don't use kooka but is there a hidden folder in your home dir for it?
[01:54] <xeromal> Hey
[01:54] <philip_> g22g thanks
[01:54] <philip_> favro
[01:54] <favro> philip_: it's ok now?
[01:54] <billyd> I don't know.  HOw do I find a hidden folder?
[01:54] <philip_> yeah
[01:55] <favro> billyd: ctrl+h normally or view-show hidden files
[01:55] <billyd> OK
[01:56] <favro> philthat howto has diff options if something is missing - e.g. headphones or such
[01:56] <favro> phil
[01:58] <billyd> It skips from .kde
[01:58] <billyd> to  .local
[01:59] <favro> I don't know what you mean - what skips?
[01:59] <billyd> I may want to zop the .strigi file.  I thought I had un-installled the trouble making program
[02:02] <billyd> Sorrry - the file folders skip from .kde to .local
[02:05] <xeromal> Guess, I know this is a very dumb question but I am having very dumb issues with recording sound off of youtube. I am trying to use ALSA or Audacity but I cannot get either to work.
[02:09] <memeemeee> oh dear!
[02:09] <xeromal> Ok, well Hello memeemeee
[02:10]  * memeemeee sweating bullets while he reinstalls w/out formatting drives
[02:10] <memeemeee> my grub broke
[02:10] <ardchoille> memeemeee: after installing Windows?
[02:10] <memeemeee> I was messing with gparted and the next time I restarted I got Error 15.
[02:11] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[02:11] <memeemeee> no. after formatting my secondary SATA
[02:11] <memeemeee> so i unpartitioned sdb and then got error 22
[02:11] <billyd> Ni Ni
[02:12] <ardchoille> memeemeee: maybe this will help?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[02:12] <memeemeee> best solution I could find on the forums was to run the install CD without formatting. but now I'm worried about what I'll loose
[02:12]  * memeemeee stupidly took things into his own hands without coming to the irc first
[02:14] <memeemeee> brb
[02:19] <memeemeee> back
[02:20] <memeemeee> looks like I'll have to reinstall flgrx
[02:29] <jimmy51_home> sound suddenly isn't working in one app.  how can i restart sound support from the cmd line?
[02:30] <jimmy51_home> init.d/alsa?
[02:31] <jimmy51_home> init.d/alsa-utils restart maybe
[02:31] <jimmy51_home> trying...
[02:42] <mjbt38> smd
[03:06] <joshuaxiong> How do you enable exe on linux?
[03:06] <JoshuaXiong> /who #
[03:06] <JoshuaXiong> woor
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> /server -m irc.swiftirc.net
[03:07] <favro> .exe are for windows only
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> I...
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> wtf
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> fu ck you
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> fuck you ningas
[03:07] <JoshuaXiong> fuckkk
[03:07] <favro> !ops
[03:08] <favro> thanks
[03:08] <condon> Can anyone tell me what might be keeping my compiz from initializing?  I've set everything up in ccsm and ran compiz --replace, screen just blinks a couple times then back to normal.
[03:08] <amdpox> condon, try running from terminal and paste any output
[03:09] <condon> No whitelisted driver found
[03:10] <favro> so you don't have xgl working then?
[03:11] <amdpox> condon: what video card, drivers are you using?
[03:12] <condon> sorry, had to log out, lost my title bars and couldn't type anything.
[03:12] <condon> what do I have to do to set up xgl?
[03:12] <favro> have you tried to do some compiz stuff? - the first time I used it I couldn't tell it had started
[03:13] <condon> Yep, tried that too
[03:13] <condon> no cube, no wobble, no magnification, nothing.
[03:13] <favro> your title bars going away is compiz working
[03:13] <condon> and not being able to type in text fields?
[03:13] <favro> afaik
[03:14] <favro> well have you set up the vid card to use the right drivers?
[03:14] <condon> I've got nvidia-glx-new installed, do I need legacy or some other driver?
[03:14] <favro> that should be fine
[03:14] <favro> !compiz
[03:14] <condon> don't know, really new to k and compiz
[03:14] <condon> thanks for the link
[03:15] <favro> maybe amdpox will know more about compiz in kde?
[03:16] <amdpox> There's really no difference to using it in any other situation
[03:16] <amdpox> the titlebars disappearing and focus bugs means you had no window manager running at all
[03:16] <amdpox> condon, what does "glxinfo | grep direct" tell you?
[03:18] <amdpox> anyway, I have to go
[03:18] <favro> he went to #compiz I think - thnx
[03:19] <_2> so anyone ever have problems using ssh over an adsl modem ?   it seems to "refuse conneciotns"
[03:19] <MellowDude> is there a way to make Mplayer play all embeded flash movies
[03:20] <condon> one second amdpox, no answer what so ever over there, will check now
[03:21] <_2> err  _t <<
[03:21] <condon> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[03:22] <condon> any ideas?
[03:22] <root> can you hear me now ?
[03:23] <MellowDude> can hear u
[03:24] <favro> condon: seems the vid driver isn't set up right maybe
[03:25] <condon> any idea how I'd set it up?
[03:26] <condon> it shows up in Hardware Drivers, checked as enabled, but that's all I can find on it.
[03:27] <favro> !nvidia
[03:27] <favro> I don't use nvidia sorry
[03:28] <_2> i guess i'll have to upgrade to the newest version, so i can learn (by undoing) what they have done to xorg that makes it so impervious to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:28] <MellowDude> i can play embeded movies in ff but it spikes my cpu up really high i want them to open stright up in Mplayer is there any way
[03:33] <condon> Thanks for all your help, think I've got it fixed now. Take care if I'm not back in 3 :)
[03:34] <favro> _2: they've tried to make it select drivers automagically but it needs lots of work imo...
[03:35] <dude> question, why is it everytime i use kopete, for YM, it always disconnect
[03:36] <favro> MellowDude: there is youtube-dl to play them locally - most of the time the cpu maxes for everyone watching youtube on ff
[03:38] <kingjere> In korganizer I selected "export to HTML with every save" but it doesn't. A little googleing says this was a bug in 2004 and has been solved. Anyone else have this prob?
[03:45] <_2> favro yeah.  i'm opposed to dumbing down the os, for the sake of "just works".  because enevatably it doesn't "just work" and then you can't fix it either...
[03:46] <favro> _2: it will prob work in a couple of years - every I guess is supposed to work harder until it does...
[03:46] <favro> *everyone
[03:46] <_2> mplayer error   Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[03:47] <condon> OK, new problem.  Everything works now, I just can't get my resolution above 640x480
[03:47] <_2> syntax was   mplayer -vo svga file.avi  # did i miss something ?
[03:47] <condon> any ideas?  Tried manually selecting the generic lcd 1024x768 w/ wide screen, restarted x, still this horrible resolution.
[03:48] <favro> condon: in konsole try   xrandr -s 1600x900   or the resolution you want
[03:49] <_2> or 1200x800
[03:49] <favro> xrandr -q   to find the available options
[03:49] <_2> not all short screens are created =
[03:50] <condon> Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[03:50] <condon> same for 1200x800
[03:50] <favro> what does   xrandr   return
[03:50] <favro> ?
[03:51] <condon> minimum 320 x 240, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
[03:51] <condon> default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[03:51] <condon> sorry
[03:51] <condon> for the two lines I mean
[03:52] <favro> the vid drivers aren't setup - from the nvidia link did you have to add to /etc/modules or similar?
[03:52] <favro> !nvidia
[03:57] <_2> i can understand having to have a lot of extra software to run a winmodem because the hardware simply isn't there, and you are emulating it in software, but why the devil does one need special drivers to get 3d hardware accelleration out of real hardware, is beyond me.   surely the manufacture has gone to a lot of extra trouble to make it difficult
[03:59] <_2> </rant for the day>
[03:59] <cristian> hello
[04:01] <dr_willis> Hmm.. wasent there  some front end to wine to assist in installing/playing games.. windoors? i cant rember the name close enoughj to get a good google hit
[04:01] <dr_willis> aha - its wineEdoors. :)
[04:02] <_2> can one run command.com in wine ?
[04:03] <dr_willis> try it and see :)
[04:03] <_2> just wondering if any of the old dos games would work that way...
[04:03] <_2> i might have something lying around...
[04:04] <dr_willis> for old dos games. use dosbox  they work MUCH better in dosbox then they woukld in wine/dosemu from what ive seen
[04:05] <HUYDQ> Hi all .
[04:05] <HUYDQ> Help me !
[04:05] <dr_willis> Hello
[04:05] <HUYDQ> I install VLC 9.5
[04:05] <dr_willis> 'please state the nature of the linux emergancy'
[04:05] <HUYDQ> But Not cuccessfull
[04:06] <favro> HUYDQ: how did you install it?
[04:06] <_2> lol @ dr_willis    you and se7en been tweeking your program again i see.
[04:07] <HUYDQ> when i enter command "./configure" , have an erro : error: Could not find libpostproc.
[04:07] <HUYDQ> Help me !
[04:07] <HUYDQ> ANd i can not install VLC continue !
[04:08] <favro> does it get far before that error?
[04:08] <HUYDQ> Can you help me ?
[04:08] <_2> HUYDQ you need to read the documentation that came with the package and satisfy all it's dependancies first.
[04:08] <bazhang> HUYDQ, sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:08] <HUYDQ> Ok
[04:08] <dr_willis> Install the proper libs and the libs-dev packages perhaps...
[04:08] <_2> bazhang  9.5  ?
[04:09] <dr_willis> or use the version in the repos.. :) much easier to do..  unless youjust have to have the latest
[04:09] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[04:09] <bazhang> HUYDQ, no need to compile; just get from repos
[04:09] <bazhang> newer does not mean better
[04:09] <dr_willis> intrepid has 9.4
[04:10] <HUYDQ> yes
[04:10] <HUYDQ> Thanks !
[04:10] <HUYDQ> i am installing
[04:10] <_2> bazhang while i totally agree  he did specify 9.5   so i didn't assume ignorance for what stupidity could explain     </shrugs>
[04:10] <HUYDQ> Thank you `1
[04:11] <HUYDQ> I install SUCCESSFUL !
[04:11] <HUYDQ> Thanks EXPERT !
[04:11] <bazhang> HUYDQ, yw
[04:11] <favro> my dapper has vlc 8.4 - hardy has vlc 8.6...
[04:12] <_2> favro yeah that's why i didn't push the "just use the repos" button, seeing that he specified 9.5      so i miss judged another one.
[04:12] <favro> hehe
[04:14] <_2> usually when someone specifies a version  they have a reason for it...    but then again this is ubuntu isn't it  ;/
[04:14] <favro> well I'm going to see what vlc 9.5 has to offer :)
[04:15] <_2> if it's much improved,  tell me and i might see if it will build on dapper
[04:15] <condon> Is compiz always this much of a pain in the sack and is it worth it if I ever get it running?
[04:16] <_2> always a pain.   not for some.   worth it, no.
[04:16] <favro> it's not compiz but kubuntu,X and your card
[04:16] <condon> Well what's keeping my favorites from disappearing out of firefox every time I log out?
[04:17] <_2> an .xml
[04:17] <_2> in your $HOME/.firefox/   maybe...
[04:17] <condon> I had the friggen thing working at next to no resolution, got my resolution back by changing the xorg.conf (added the res lines manually) and now it gives me the same line as before (no white listed driver)
[04:17] <condon> could I have that link one more time?
[04:18] <_2> !ati
[04:18] <condon> thanks man
[04:25] <_2> how to lop the top two lines off of a file ?
[04:26] <dr_willis> cat/tail can do that with the -n argument or +n argument -  i recall
[04:26] <_2> never mind i think i can do it with sed.    sed '1,2D'  maybe.
[04:26] <dr_willis> I though sed worked on a per line basis not whole file..
[04:27] <_2> cattail would require knowing the size of the remander of the file
[04:27] <dr_willis> _2,  no it would not.
[04:27] <dr_willis> Cat/tail has options to do "everything past the first 2 lines' and so forth
[04:27] <dr_willis> but the man pages are a luittle vague in the syntax
[04:28] <_2> dr_willis k i stand 'recerected'
[04:28] <dr_willis> I belive the impiornt bits was the use of +n vs -n
[04:28] <pulaski> hi all, I run hardy 8.04 with kernel 2.6.21-21-gemeric.  I' m in the process of setting it up as an nfs client.  Does that kernel have nfs support built in?
[04:28] <_2> ah yes +2
[04:29] <_2> well in my case +3  but yes.  that works too
[04:29] <_2> so sed '1,2D' filename == tail +3 filename
[04:29]  * _2 makes note.
[04:30] <dr_willis> aha - im thinking head/tail   not cat/tail
[04:31]  * _2 just thought you were useing useless use of cat on it.
[04:31] <dr_willis> somewhere in the docs I think it mentions the use of +3 vs -3 also..
[04:31] <dr_willis> :)
[04:31] <dr_willis> ages ago i had to use head and tail to cut out the middle of a file..
[04:32] <_2> it's not in the man pages.
[04:32] <dr_willis> yea.. somthings changed or else  its in head not in tail..
[04:32] <_2> pulaski short answer is NO.
[04:33] <dr_willis> in Tail man page..
[04:33] <_2> pulaski ubuntu kernels only have ramfs built in
[04:33] <dr_willis> -n, --lines=N
[04:33] <dr_willis>               output the last N lines, instead of the last 10; or use +N to output lines starting with the Nth
[04:34] <_2> dapper's version of the man page only has           -n, --lines=N
[04:34] <_2>               output the last N lines, instead of the last 10
[04:34] <dr_willis> theres some weird issue going on.
[04:34] <dr_willis> ibex's works.. as shown..but still prints out a error.
[04:34] <_2> hmmm
[04:34] <dr_willis> tail lines=3 test.txt
[04:34] <dr_willis> tail: cannot open `lines=3' for reading: No such file or directory
[04:34] <dr_willis> ==> test.txt <==
[04:34] <dr_willis> 3
[04:34] <dr_willis> 4
[04:35] <dr_willis> it 'works' and starts at 3.. but that error message is  not properl
[04:35] <_2> odd.   dapper works.    echo -e '1\n2\n3\n4\n5\n6\n7\n8\n9' | tail +3
[04:35] <_2> 3
[04:35] <_2> 4
[04:35] <dr_willis> my test file is 'test.txt' with 10 lines in it , 1 through 0 on each line
[04:36] <_2> yeah i just used echo to emulate your test.txt
[04:37] <_2> try pipeing it and see if it still errors
[04:37] <_2> UUoC maybe :)
[04:37] <favro> tail +2 file cuts the first line on dapper here
[04:37] <_2> favro yes here too
[04:40] <_2> the +N means everything after and including N
[04:40] <_2> line N forward
[04:42] <_2> dr_willis oh.    --lines=  :)
[04:42] <jerry_> hey anyone from florida
[04:43] <_2> dr_willis you there ?
[04:43] <pulaski> _2: hmmm, thanks.  As I recall I had nfs set up on my previous edgy distro and I didn't have to do any special config.  Per the docs I have I was looking in /proc/filesystems for a sign of nfs and nothing was there.  insmod nfs returns "can't read 'nfs': No such file or directory"  and although rpc.statd is running rpc.lockd is not.   Could you or anyone else here tonight suggest a link to a comprehensive set of docs for nfs
[04:43] <pulaski> client config?  Does the nfs-common package have docs for this?
[04:44] <_2> dr_willis tail --lines=+3 test.txt
[04:45] <_2> pulaski the support for all file systems are in modules on ubuntu,  even ext#   the initramfs.img "still called initrd by some" is supposed to insert any needed modules, to support your root file system.
[04:46] <favro> pulaski: try this - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[04:47] <pulaski> favro: Thanks again!
[04:48] <favro> np :)
[04:48] <_2> modprobe nfs
[04:48] <dr_willis> Hmmm
[04:48] <_2> lsmod returns this for dapper.   nfs                   238920  0
[04:48] <_2> lockd                  67944  1 nfs
[04:48] <_2> sunrpc                159452  2 nfs,lockd
[04:49] <dr_willis>  tail --lines=+3 test.txt
[04:49] <dr_willis> there we go
[04:49] <_2> did i hear someone else say that ?
[04:49] <dr_willis> proberly not
[04:49] <dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <_2> :)
[04:50] <_2> but in gnu tail the --lines= is redundant seeing that ; "+3" == "--lines=+3"
[04:51] <heather> woot
[04:51] <dr_willis> I recall in some other channel today a guy  had a script/issue due to some differances in the way Tail worked
[04:51] <heather> good day all
[04:52] <_2> woot
[04:52] <favro> it is a top day here in gods' own zone]
[04:52] <heather> so what is the subject tonight?
[04:53] <favro> !topic
[04:53] <_2> /topic
[04:53] <heather> !topic
[04:53] <dr_willis> Topic: 'the many uses of tail'
[04:53] <dr_willis> :)
[04:53] <heather> lol
[04:53] <heather> hum
[04:53] <_2> dr_willis swing from limbs... switch flies ....
[04:54] <heather> ah
[04:54] <heather> i was going to instal ubuntu on a mac
[04:54] <heather> :)
[04:54] <heather> well a g-3 mac
[04:55] <favro> there is #ubuntu-ppc
[04:55] <favro> !ppc
[04:55] <heather> if it powers up tonight that is
[04:56] <heather> already have intreped
[04:56] <heather> going for 8.04.1
[04:57] <heather> so what is everyone running?
[04:57] <_2> was supported, now is a community port    pfft.
[04:58] <dr_willis> Yea.. look at all the great support they still get from apple...
[04:58] <dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <heather> lol ya
[04:58] <heather> well it was a free pc
[04:58] <dr_willis> Ive never had much luck with linux on my imacDV
[04:58] <heather> i am sure not gona buy an operating system for it
[04:58] <dr_willis> the monitor was always off possition about 1/2 an inch.
[04:59] <dr_willis> I got OS-X on it from ages ago.
[04:59] <_2> os your x
[04:59] <dr_willis> OS-XXX with porn themes
[04:59] <heather> well i looked to just down load one
[04:59] <_2> os all your x's
[04:59] <heather> but couldnt find one
[05:00] <heather> so ubuntu will do
[05:00]  * _2 waits for the     is _2 a bot ?
[05:00] <maxagaz> each time i go to the resolution panel i get a black screen telling me my screen can't fit the resolution, what can i do ?
[05:00] <micha_> *buntu is sooo sexy anyway
[05:02] <_2> dr_willis you use mplayer, what am i doing wrong with    mplayer -vo svga file.avi   ?
[05:02] <heather> what card?
[05:03] <_2> dr_willis it errors with "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[05:04] <favro> so svga isn't a device you should use maybe?
[05:04] <dr_willis> It may not have support for the svga device. for the console ive used the framebuffer drvice
[05:05] <_2> the man page says it does,  if that's worth two shamrocks bob's your uncle
[05:05] <dr_willis> those features may or may not be compiled into a specific mplayer.
[05:06] <dr_willis> i normally use the -vo fbdev
[05:06] <_2> ok so bob is not your uncle ...
[05:06] <_2> but i'm not using fbcon
[05:06] <dr_willis> for console playback.. but i noticed that  when doing that - i had to run mplayer as root.
[05:06] <_2> so that's out.
[05:06] <dr_willis> You may be stuck then.
[05:07]  * _2 sticks me     <ouch>    "yep i'm stuck"
[05:07] <dr_willis> or there may be some weird configuring to get svga working
[05:07] <spawn57> hi folks, can anyone tell me how to compile a module in ubuntu?  I'm having trouble getting the kernel version of the module right.  modinfo shows the module version to be 2.6.27-2 while the kernel is 2.6.27
[05:07] <dr_willis> mplayer -vo help shows svga here also
[05:07] <_2> i use svgalibs in vlc tho so if there some "weird configuring" it will be mplayer side.
[05:07] <_2> k i'll read some more.
[05:08] <favro> it might be the vid card not supporting that option?
[05:08] <dr_willis> its possible the medibuntu release of mplayer may be compiled with different options then the stnadard mplayer also
[05:10] <condon> Last question then I'll leave you fine people alone for the night.
[05:10] <_2> dr_willis i think you're right. using the help feature of mplayer the svga is not listed   so probably not built in.       "raza amacken fraten!" </sam>
[05:10] <condon> Got it all up and running fine, but fiddled in ccsm and now I can't get my cube rotating...where do I apply the mouse settings for rotating the cube?
[05:11] <condon> I was actually looking for the setting to push the cube back some (zoom out while spinning it) and somewhere along the way I've turned off the rotation
[05:11] <dr_willis> _2,  i belive i AM using the mplayer from  medibuntu on  all my machines
[05:12] <_2> ok.    thanks.     "disgruntled goes away..."
[05:12] <condon> now when I use the scroll button (pushing it down) I get a menu to 'unclutter windows', cascade windows, and a list of open aps
[05:13] <mr---t-> hiya _2
[05:13] <_2> condon hehhe   first thing, is to figure out what file/s and dir/s in your home to reset all to default   so you can play with it enough to learn it
[05:14] <_2> mr---t- shalom
[05:14] <micha_> mplayer -vo caca filename
[05:14] <condon> lol, would happily go back to the beginning and tweak from there
[05:16] <_2> micha_ heh you mean asc2 mode   o.O
[05:17] <heather> oops
[05:19] <condon> Can anyone tell me how to reset it back tot he beginning without resetting (compiz)
[05:19] <condon> Nevermind
[05:19] <condon> just fixed it
[05:20] <favro> condon: what was the vid card issue?
[05:20] <favro> or how did you fix it/
[05:21] <favro> s/\//?/
[05:21] <_2> s=/=\==g
[05:22] <condon> Went into the right setting.  Kept looking in general and Desktop Cube rather than...rotate cube
[05:22] <condon> again, very new
[05:22] <_2> condon actually i think he was asking about the former issue with your card and driver
[05:22] <favro> that sorted the vid driver?
[05:23] <condon> As for the vid card...um...I don't freaking know, but it works, so, I won't ever touch any aspect of the display itself again :) Ended up setting the hor/vert refresh rates manually in xconf (pico I think)
[05:23] <_2> see
[05:23] <favro> what _2 said :)
[05:23] <favro> hehe
[05:23] <_2> oh it's the magical "reboot will fix anything" because ubuntu "just works"   answer   lol
[05:23] <condon> then did the whole sudo invidia-xconfig thing and restarted x
[05:24] <condon> lol, yeah, several reboots.
[05:24]  * _2 head desk
[05:24] <condon> not dissing ubuntu, best distro I've come across (easiest to work with anyway).  Comp was a pain in every distro I've tried, I didn't even have to find new repositories for this one :)
[05:26] <micha_> debian did a good job :)
[05:26] <_2> condon they are trying exceptionally hard to make it a painless as possable.   and if things go a projected, the 9.4 kubuntu will have all the affects OoB
[05:26] <_2> s=a=as=g
[05:26] <micha_> effets are important
[05:27] <condon> Sweet.  It's really worth it in the long run, just to see the look on peoples' faces when they come over and I've got snow falling against my wintery background, or leaves in the autum.  So worth it.
[05:27] <condon> Then you spin the cube and people about crap themselves.
[05:27] <_2> seeing my console has that affect on people too....   ;/
[05:27] <spawn57> hi folks, can anyone tell me how to compile a module in ubuntu?  I'm having trouble getting the kernel version of the module right.  modinfo shows the module version to be 2.6.27-2 while the kernel is 2.6.27
[05:28] <condon> lol, haven't even played with the console yet :) I know you can make it spiffy
[05:28] <_2> spawn57 version is ls /lib/modules/
[05:29] <heather> ok time to try my new ubuntu :)
[05:29] <aman> does the clock have to be in 24 hour format?
[05:29] <dr_willis> you actually stat to use the cube..and wonder why people care about such c***p :)
[05:29] <heather> wish me luck
[05:29] <_2> aman no
[05:30] <dr_willis> aman,  you can set the timeformat in the time perferances/settings
[05:30] <dr_willis> but then you need to somehow restart the clock.
[05:30] <dr_willis> logout/in is one way.. or theers some other command that does it.
[05:31] <_2> remove it from the panel and add it back.
[05:31] <_2> err maybe not.
[05:31] <aman> how?
[05:31] <aman> dr_willis?
[05:31] <_2> this is kde,  right click everything.
[05:31] <micha_> give us your passwd and we do it via ssh for you aman
[05:32] <condon> ok, so I freakin lied, where do I change my window decorations in compiz?  Last time I had it installed I had hundreds, but it's been over a year now.
[05:32] <condon> and my brain's dead.
[05:32] <aman> um no.
[05:32] <_2> micha_ play nice.
[05:32] <_2> micha_ use john on it.
[05:32] <_2> :)
[05:33] <micha_> just jocking ... think i have to sleep ...
[05:33] <_2> !info john
[05:34] <micha_> :)
[05:34] <_2> :)
[05:34] <level1_> hi, my kde 4 is going crazy.  Everything is really slow and I'm getting scim related errors
[05:35] <level1_> I don't have scim on my system
[05:35] <amdpox> level1_, upgrade to kde3.5 and don't let apt touch your system for the next year
[05:36] <level1_> uh what?
[05:36] <dr_willis> I removed scim also.. it had  some issues
[05:36] <level1_> amdpox, I'm very much not in the mood.  I have a paper due in 48 hours and I'm really not in the mood
[05:37] <dr_willis> i found that scim kept trying to connect/do things.. and waw slowing down kde4. so i removed the scim package
[05:37] <amdpox> level1_, may I suggest using a more stable DE at least until you've got that paper out of the way?
[05:38] <amdpox> KDE4 has been slow and buggy for me
[05:38] <dr_willis> kde4 is very much a work in progress.. i agree.
[05:38] <level1_> amdpox, get the fuck off this channel
[05:38] <_2> !kde4 | level1_ if you don't get an answer in here you can check the kde4 channel
[05:38] <micha_> than kde3 would have been the better choice ... dpkg -l | grep -i scim to see if it is not on your system level1_
[05:39] <_2> level1_ and mind the language too
[05:47] <_2> boredom does strange things to some.    i had to sit and wait for some time last weak and wrote a new login process   pfft.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/10978
[05:48] <_2> using that i can have all accounts locked and still login
[05:49] <_2> i can think of easy ways to modify it to check a usb key for access too.
[05:50] <_2> a secure usb key   and the script asks for the password to the key on the usb stick and logs you in locally over ssh     hmmm   i may impliment that durring my next "time killing process"
[05:51] <mr---t-> you have too much time on your hands
[05:51] <_2> no.   it too little money for the time i do have, that is the problem   :)))
[05:53] <_2> it is ^
[05:53] <mr---t-> it's only money
[05:53] <_2> it is ^
[05:54] <_2> and some server it as if it owned them.
[05:54] <_2> and some dont.     which am i
[05:56] <pronoy> can someone please gimme the link to ordering kubuntu 4.1 ??
[05:56] <_2> there was no 4.1
[05:56] <favro> kde4.1?
[05:56] <_2> ubuntu started with 4.10    i joined at 5.4
[05:57] <favro> !shipit
[05:57] <_2> !install
[05:57] <_2> might also be useful in that querry
[05:58] <chrisruls00> !ICEauthority
[05:59] <_2> !fishing | chrisruls00
[06:00] <_2> ok i'm out.    peace to one and all.
[06:01] <chrisruls00> anyone know what the .ICE authority file found in your home directory is used for? It keeps haveing it's permissions changed to a root only file and then KDE will not load. I can fix it from the command line, but it's annoying/
[06:04] <favro> my .iceauthority file is mt...
[06:05] <favro> chrisruls00: does this help - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/just-what-is-going-on-with-.iceauthority-ownership-325611/
[06:08] <chrisruls00> thanks, looks like there is currently no fix, that's to bad.
[06:09] <maxagaz> each time i go to the resolution panel i get a black screen telling me my screen can't fit the resolution, what can i do ?
[06:09] <favro> the fix is to use kdesu instead of sudo to run apps as root
[06:10] <micha_> what graphic card maxagaz
[06:10] <favro> maxagaz: in konsole what does   xrandr   return
[06:10] <micha_> lspci | grep -i vga
[06:10] <chrisruls00> ok. I'm guessing the permissions change when I run KDE apps from fluxbox, which I use when I want to play windows games through wine since it's faster.
[06:11] <maxagaz> micha_:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE] (rev a1)
[06:11] <favro> chrisruls00: you can install gksu to use in flux instead of opening apps with sudo
[06:11] <maxagaz> Screen 0: minimum 400 x 300, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1050
[06:11] <maxagaz> default connected 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[06:11] <micha_> xrandr
[06:11] <maxagaz> favro, micha_: it returns a lot of things
[06:11] <favro> maxagaz: and what size are you trying for?
[06:12] <maxagaz> favro: i don't remember
[06:12] <favro> hehe
[06:12] <maxagaz> favro: but i can't go to this panl anymore
[06:12] <micha_> why
[06:12] <chrisruls00> ok, i'll try that. or I can just learn how to use vim and how to change permissions from the terminal, since the only KDE apps I use from fluxbox are Kate and Dolphin.
[06:13] <favro> dolphin in flux chrisruls00  - that's sad - try thunar for the lighter desktop
[06:13] <micha_> chnmod --help chrisruls00
[06:14] <micha_> and use nano or pico ... vi(m) drives you nuts :)
[06:14] <favro> +1 nano - ctrl+o to write - ctrl+x to close
[06:15] <chrisruls00> ok, I'll try thunar. I've only had linux for a year and I've still got a lot to learn about the command line. My dad bought me a big book about linux and the bash shell but with school I haven't been able to read it.
[06:15] <maxagaz> micha_: because each time I go to the resolution panel, i get a black screen, so I have to reboot
[06:17] <micha_> maxagaz: i can only guess that you try to set a resolution that your card can't handle
[06:18] <micha_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:18] <micha_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:18] <micha_> do that in the terminal
[06:18] <maxagaz> micha_: yes, but to be able to go back to this panel, it's bugged now
[06:19] <micha_> [13:18] <micha_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:19] <micha_> [13:18] <micha_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:19] <micha_> [13:18] <micha_> do that in the terminal
[06:19] <spragie> hey how can i get a list of processes that are bugging up my system from a console in order to kill it?
[06:20] <micha_> top or htop spragie
[06:20] <maxagaz> micha_: i think changing something in the conf of kde should solve the problem, don't you ?
[06:20] <spragie> micha_: whats the diff?
[06:21] <micha_> in the conf of kde
[06:21] <spragie> top
[06:21] <micha_> htop is colourful
[06:21] <micha_> in the conf of kde? maxagaz
[06:21] <dr_willis> htop is purty
[06:22] <spragie> k thnx
[06:22] <spragie> i am having a hard time extracting a rar file that has multiple archives for a single file
[06:22] <spragie> i installed rar and unrar-free
[06:23] <spragie> unrar-free first, now ark krashes on me ;\
[06:23] <spragie> or atleast runs up my system and freezes kde
[06:23] <micha_> apt-get install unrar-nonfree spragie
[06:24] <spragie> unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[06:24] <dr_willis> unrar e whatever.r01 or whatever...
[06:24] <dr_willis> Or use wine and winrar.exe
[06:24] <spragie> winrar.exe ?
[06:24] <maxagaz> micha_: yes
[06:25] <spragie> wine* anyways ?
[06:25] <maxagaz> micha_: yes, in the conf of kde
[06:26] <micha_> i don't understand conf of kde maxagaz
[06:31] <aaron> ok, what am I doing wrong here? ln -sf /etc/apt/sources.mylocation.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.d  (which is a symlink to /etc/apt/sources.list.prevlocation.d/)
[06:31] <spragie> What is a good GUI for unraring files ?
[06:31] <aaron> when I run it, it puts a symlink inside, which doesn't make sense.. I've tried all combinations of with /'s and without...
[06:31] <Roger_Klotz> hey guys, someone earlier today told me where i could edit my kde4 config file. i was using nano /.kde4/ but i dont remember the rest of the address. I have to set [Compositing] to false
[06:32] <micha_> ark spragie
[06:32] <spragie> ark doesn't work, the rar file consists of more that one r** file containing 1 file
[06:32] <micha_> i think the unrar-nonfree is now in resticted-extras spragie sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:32] <spragie> rar files* if you will
[06:32] <spragie> micha_: let me try...
[06:32] <micha_> because ark uses unrar
[06:33] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:33] <spragie> micha_: i'm trying that now ;]
[06:34] <Roger_Klotz> can anyone tell me where to find the kde4 config file
[06:34] <spragie> dr_willis: gui ?
[06:34] <micha_> ~/.kde4 Roger_Klotz
[06:34] <dr_willis> gui is for wimps.
[06:34] <dr_willis> :)
[06:34] <micha_> !unrar
[06:34] <micha_> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:35] <spragie> unrar-free did'nt work
[06:35] <dr_willis> try apt-cache search rar
[06:35] <spragie> while unrar-nonfree had no install candidate
[06:35] <micha_> f*ck *buntu special packages
[06:35] <dr_willis> update/upgrade try again?
[06:35] <spragie> just installed 2 secs ago
[06:36] <dr_willis> !info unrar-free
[06:36] <spragie> i dont think i need to install all this restricted extras ?
[06:37] <micha_> yes you need the nonfree ... but i can't find it ... it is a normal debian packages but not in *buntu
[06:37] <dr_willis> I always install them  anyway spragie
[06:37] <dr_willis> unrar-free , and unrar are the package names..
[06:37] <dr_willis> not unrar-nonfree
[06:37] <dr_willis> or so it is on my intrepid box.
[06:37] <dr_willis> apt-cache search rar  | grep archiver
[06:37] <spragie> dr_willis: im on hardy
[06:37] <micha_> unrar          unrar-free     unrar-nonfree
[06:38] <spragie> ok well let me install the restricted-extra's and i will go from there
[06:38] <spragie> ~50% done downloading
[06:38] <micha_> you should anyway ... if you have fast internet ...
[06:39] <spragie> slow net
[06:39] <dr_willis> on my hardy box i just have   unrar-free  and unrar also...
[06:39] <spragie> but im going to do this and see if ark responds diff i guess
[06:39] <micha_> guess not as slow as i am :) ppp modem
[06:40] <Roger_Klotz> micha: i tried ~/.kde4 and all it says is "~/.kde4 is a directory"
[06:40] <dr_willis>  .kde4 is a directory.. the config files are inside that directory
[06:40] <micha_> 1h20min52s
[06:40] <micha_> 99mb lol
[06:41] <Roger_Klotz> earlier today someone told me a directory 2 that was like ~/.kde4/somedir/somedir/somefile
[06:41] <Roger_Klotz> to edit the file that holds the config file that holds the desktop composition settings
[06:41] <micha_> just look inside the kde4 dir and open the file you need to edit Roger_Klotz
[06:41] <stdin> ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc
[06:42] <Roger_Klotz> micha thats where the problem is i can only run terminal
[06:42] <Roger_Klotz> but i think thats it ty stdin
[06:42] <Roger_Klotz> it definitely is. Thanks guys
[06:43] <micha_> Roger_Klotz: use or insall mc that is a cli file manager makes it more easy to navigate through the directorys
[06:43] <dr_willis> mc - is a must install. :)
[06:44] <Roger_Klotz> no micha the desktop comping wasnt letting me get past login so i have to use failsafe to set this variable to false
[06:44] <Roger_Klotz> but ty i wil grab it
[06:44] <Roger_Klotz> sudo apt-get install mc?
[06:44] <micha_> yes Roger_Klotz
[06:44] <Roger_Klotz> thank you
[06:46] <micha_> Roger_Klotz: mv -r ~/.kde4/  ~/kde4.back
[06:46] <micha_> Roger_Klotz: mv ~/.kde4/  ~/kde4.back
[06:53] <micha_> spragie: any luck
[07:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:12] <micha_> oi punk :)
[07:13] <MilhousePunkRock> I do not have the settings for GTK-QT although gtk-qt-engine is installed, therfor Firefox looks like in Windows 95
[07:32] <yoghin> nickserv
[07:46] <SilentDis> !GtkBuilder
[07:47] <favro> !gtk
[08:46] <Freku> !backup
[09:03] <derdude1977_> hallo
[09:03] <derdude1977_> ich hbae ein problem mit meinem neune ubuntu system
[09:04] <derdude1977_> vielleicht schriebt ja mal jemand wenn jemand da ist
[09:04] <koperton>  i wanna just ask this i would like use only konquer like web browser but.... www.mediafire.com has problem with it
[09:04] <koperton> i can not upload files
[09:04] <koperton>  why?
[09:04] <koperton> derdude1977_: english...
[09:04] <derdude1977_> ohh english is very well
[09:05] <derdude1977_> i installed yesterday kubuntu 8.04
[09:05] <derdude1977_> now i want do install the atheros 5007eg wlan card
[09:05] <derdude1977_> but at the point make install the error is "keine Regel für install"
[09:06] <koperton> derdude1977_: well atheros wifi card are recognized with restricted drivers
[09:06] <derdude1977_> the error ist caused of make install
[09:06] <koperton> if your wlan card you should use madwifi
[09:06] <koperton> just in that case
[09:06] <derdude1977_> but i cant uswe wlan at the moment
[09:07] <koperton> derdude1977_: iwconfig in a terminale
[09:07] <koperton> then use
[09:07] <koperton> !paste
[09:07] <koperton> *terminal
[09:07] <derdude1977_> lo and eth no wireless extension
[09:08] <favro> make install needs sudo
[09:08] <derdude1977_> i know
[09:08] <derdude1977_> but there are errors keine regel güt instasll schluss
[09:08] <favro> regel is in english?
[09:08] <koperton> xD
[09:09] <koperton> he is old
[09:09] <derdude1977_> noo german
[09:09] <koperton> translate in english then
[09:09] <koperton> !german
[09:09] <derdude1977_> no rule for install end
[09:10] <koperton> derdude1977_: read better README file or fuind out on internet how to compile your driver , are the madwifi?
[09:10] <koperton> they
[09:10] <koperton> find out
[09:11] <derdude1977_> yes
[09:11] <koperton> what kind of ather do you have , i can't remember
[09:11] <koperton> atheros
[09:13] <koperton> derdude1977_: read this http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[09:18] <derdude1977_> ok thaks i do
[09:22] <male33nrw> hi
[09:23] <blackflag> !ebox
[09:23] <male33nrw> could someone tell me please how to configure a static ip in kubuntu ?? newest release. manual configuration nothing happens
[09:23] <favro> !hi | male33nrw
[09:24] <male33nrw> hi favro :)
[09:24] <male33nrw> is there a howto or a trick ?
[09:25] <favro> I edit the /etc/network/interfaces manually to do that
[09:25] <favro> *file
[09:25] <saharagurl> http://mozilla.se.eu.dal.net
[09:25] <male33nrw> okay this is one way
[09:25] <favro> I'll paste mine
[09:25] <favro> !paste
[09:26] <male33nrw> yes ok
[09:26] <carlos> buenos dias
[09:26] <carlos> alguien puede ayudarme?
[09:27] <favro> male33nrw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62789/ - but change numbers accordingly
[09:27] <favro> carlos: brazillian?
[09:27] <favro> !pt
[09:27] <carlos> fvro no....
[09:27] <stdin> !es
[09:28] <derdude1977> whre is the german channel
[09:28] <favro> they look the same to me...
[09:28] <favro> !de
[09:28] <male33nrw> thanks a lot ! of course
[09:28] <favro> :)
[09:28] <carlos> alguien para configurar puerto com1 en Hardy?
[09:28] <male33nrw> but a way using the knetworkmanager ?
[09:28] <male33nrw> i have seen it is runing
[09:29] <male33nrw> but with right click manuel configuration nothing happens
[09:29] <stdin> favro: geoiplookup (from geoip-bin) finds the country associated with an IP, there's also online tools for it
[09:29] <male33nrw> is this a mistake in kde ? or i too stupid ?
[09:30] <favro> stdin: thnxs for that
[09:30] <favro> male33nrw: dunno - I like typing in system files...always have
[09:31] <male33nrw> hehe :)
[09:31] <male33nrw> i will do that too :)
[09:33] <stdin> male33nrw: clicking "Manual Configuration" should be the same as System Settings -> Network Settings
[09:39] <male33nrw> stdin: yes okay
[09:39] <male33nrw> stdin: but how to type in a network address there ? all greyed
[09:40] <stdin> male33nrw: click the "Administrator Mode" button first
[09:40] <Nasj> !dolphin
[09:42] <male33nrw> stdin: thats what i search where is the administrator mode ?
[09:43] <male33nrw> button#
[09:43] <stdin> it should be right at the bottom, on the right
[09:43] <male33nrw> normaly yes
[09:43] <male33nrw> i guess í´m blind
[09:43] <male33nrw> :)
[09:44] <zsozso> hi everybody
[09:47] <male33nrw> manual editing the interface config works now :)
[09:47] <male33nrw> my network is up
[09:48] <favro> male33nrw: well done :)
[09:48] <male33nrw> i did your way favro
[09:48] <male33nrw> configs are more reliable :))
[09:48] <favro> makes me feel like frank sinatra that does
[09:49] <favro> a text file is easy to read imo
[10:00] <male33nrw> oh no kde don´t comes up now
[10:00] <male33nrw> in console network works
[10:00] <male33nrw> i have seen it is kde 4.0
[10:00] <male33nrw> is it unstable ?
[10:00] <jannott> This object could not be created. <-- i got this error when adding battery monitor into taskbar. How i remove this error message?
[10:01] <dr_willis> I dont find kde4 to be real stable.. but it is ghetting better.
[10:01] <male33nrw> hehe i never tried kde4
[10:04] <aurachron> male33nrw: ive been using kde4 for a few days now, its been really stable so far. running my media server on it, everything is going well
[10:05] <male33nrw> where is /etc/resolv.conf ?
[10:06] <male33nrw> kde now can´t find a network interface
[10:06] <male33nrw> what a shit
[10:06] <jussi01> !ohmy | male33nrw
[10:06] <male33nrw> oh excuse me :)
[10:06] <dr_willis> where is /etc/resolv.conf ?? --------> its in /etc/ :)
[10:07] <male33nrw> normaly yes
[10:07] <male33nrw> there is a direcotry resolvconfig
[10:07] <male33nrw> hmm
[10:08] <male33nrw> i create one
[10:09] <dr_willis> cat resolv
[10:09] <dr_willis> resolvconf/  resolv.conf
[10:09] <dr_willis> resolv.conf is ormally generated by the network manager/tools I thought
[10:11] <jannott> Kubuntu doesnt come with cd writing software?
[10:11] <dr_willis> k3b can burn cd's
[10:12] <the-erm> I'm having an odd problem with kalarm, it's only showing UTC, and I also need MST.  How do you fix this?
[10:12] <the-erm> mst/mdt shows up in the time config.
[10:14] <male33nrw> now network working from conole fine :) but kde don´t works now
[10:14] <ardchoille> Is there a cli command to open any file in the app associated with the file's extension/association?
[10:14] <male33nrw> no active device
[10:15] <male33nrw> maybe i should try a other version of kde ?
[10:15] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  i seem to recall such a command.. but cant rember what it was called
[10:15] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Same here
[10:15] <ardchoille> I've tried kview, kopen, and kfmclient, all to no avail
[10:15] <dr_willis> #kde guys may rember
[10:15] <ardchoille> good idea
[10:16] <male33nrw> join #kde
[10:16] <male33nrw> sorry :)
[10:20] <busfahrer> hmmm, shouldn't my clock have set itself from CEST to CET at boot this morning? (I'm in Germany)
[10:23] <male33nrw> hmm no network interface aktiv in kde but adept updater works :)) und updates a lot ! maybe it runs better after that
[10:23] <koperton> busfahrer: on mine computer it has updated clock automatically
[10:23] <koperton> busfahrer: italy
[10:24] <linux__> #kubuntu-fr
[10:26] <simon_b> hi all...
[10:28] <simon_b> someone has an idea, how to go further with the following issue: i'm using xine to play dvd's, spdif out... mp3's, *ts files are played great, also surround, but i get no sound from the dvd's*!
[10:28] <simon_b> any idea?
[10:29] <koperton> mm
[10:30] <ardchoille> xine is cool, my favorite player
[10:30] <koperton> kaffeine=?
[10:30] <simon_b> mine also
[10:30] <simon_b> second... will try
[10:30] <koperton> :) i use ffplay cuz it's faster
[10:30] <aurachron> does anyone happen to know how to set up a krdc password file?  i tried using one generated by vncpasswd... no avail
[10:31] <koperton> krdr ?
[10:31] <aurachron> krdc, vnc client
[10:32] <aurachron> or do i need to apt install krdr
[10:32] <koperton> i don't know
[10:32] <aurachron> ah
[10:32] <koperton> i don't use vnc client sorry
[10:32] <aurachron> no prob
[10:33] <simon_b> koperton.... tried - it gives me: error: audio output unavailable. device is busy...
[10:34] <koperton> mm have you something like web browser with flash
[10:34] <koperton> or some audio software in backgroung?
[10:34] <koperton> or some audio software in background
[10:35] <favro> aurachron: the password for vnc here is in .vnc for my user on the vnc server if that helps
[10:36] <aurachron> favro: yeah i set up a passwd file in .vnc, however you can specify the location with krdc -p ~/.vnc/whatever
[10:36] <aurachron> works fine when i do it via GUI, might just have to keep doing it that way... thanks anyways though
[10:36] <favro> k :)
[10:38] <simon_b> koperton, not that i know of... how to check that?
[10:39] <dude> question, why is it when im using amarok, its giving me a low volume
[10:45] <koperton> simon_b: well there was a command but i don't remember
[10:48] <osh_> !ipod
[10:49] <linux__> #ubuntu-fr
[11:04] <Anubis> intrepid ibex will come only winth kde4 ?
[11:05] <favro> Anubis: yep
[11:07] <Anubis> onestly i'm not so happy, but hey it's a matter of taste
[11:09] <favro> Anubis: hardy is supported for 3 years on the desktop
[11:09] <favro> with kde3
[11:09] <Anubis> i know
[11:09] <Anubis> i think i'll stay with kde 3 for some time
[11:10] <favro> nothing wrong with that :)
[11:11] <male33nrw> favro: could you tell me why in kde no network device is aktive ? but it is runing in console mode ? do you know what to do ? there is nothing to enable it
[11:11] <male33nrw> and i can do updates now
[11:14] <favro> male33nrw: I've heard there is an issue with knetworkmanager - seems disabling it helps
[11:14] <favro> I'll find a link
[11:14] <favro> !knetworkmanager
[11:15] <favro> was what I noticed being here
[11:15] <favro> dunno if it is relevant tho
[11:16] <male33nrw> i have read somewhere about a bug in kde 4.0 ?
[11:18] <male33nrw> which kde version do you use ?
[11:20] <ribeiro> hello
[11:20] <favro> male33nrw: fluxbox 1.0 hehe
[11:20] <favro> male33nrw: you know there is #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 stuff?
[11:21] <ribeiro> help-me conf.   xorg.conf  card-video
[11:21] <ribeiro> notebook j33a cce
[11:21] <favro> ribeiro: do you know the card name? - and about #ubuntu-es?
[11:22] <favro> !es
[11:22] <ribeiro> 1 min
[11:22] <male33nrw> ohh
[11:22] <favro> !pt
[11:22] <ribeiro> sis
[11:22] <favro> I used a sis card - the support isn't great but works
[11:23] <male33nrw> favro: didn´t know the channel kubuntu kde
[11:23] <male33nrw> :)
[11:23] <male33nrw> i will look there
[11:23] <ribeiro> sis mirage 3d
[11:24] <favro> male33nrw: sometimes it is dead...
[11:24] <favro> ribeiro: it prob uses the vesa driver but what does   xrandr   return?
[11:26] <favro> !pm | ribeiro
[11:26] <ribeiro> vesa
[11:26] <ribeiro> ok
[11:26] <ribeiro> vou tentar usa-lo
[11:26] <favro> xrandr?
[11:26] <ribeiro> ok
[11:26] <ribeiro> thanks
[11:27] <jannott> kubuntu is so musical lol.
[11:28] <jannott> hahaha just crashed knotify
[11:29] <Mirrakor> Someone could do an "uname -r" and post the output for me?
[11:29] <Mirrakor> (some kubuntu user please)
[11:30] <ribeiro> ok
[11:30] <Mirrakor> I should return the kernel version you're using :) (I need to know for grub)
[11:30] <RurouniJones> 2.6.24-21-generic
[11:30] <Mirrakor> RurouniJones: latest kubuntu version?
[11:30] <RurouniJones> That is the latest 8.04 released kernel
[11:30] <Mirrakor> thx
[11:30] <RurouniJones> no guarantees that your system is using it though
[11:30] <favro> !info linux-image
[11:31] <jannott> my "uname -s" returns: "linux" :/
[11:31] <Mirrakor> thank you :)
[11:32] <favro> try uname -a
[11:32] <Mirrakor> jannott: that's forrect for -s, -r returns kernel version and -a gives all :)
[11:32] <jannott> oh typo lol
[11:33] <ardchoille> Is there a cli command to open any file in the app associated with the file's extension/association?
[11:34] <Mirrakor> yes, a kde helper..
[11:34] <Mirrakor> I just need to figure out how it was called again :)
[11:34] <DarkSmoke> hey hey
[11:34] <DarkSmoke> why doesn't kubuntu automaticaly updates time?
[11:35] <DarkSmoke> today the hour changed to an hour backwards, but on my kubuntu it didn't change :/
[11:35] <Mirrakor> didn't it? (all my other machines did, don't have a kubuntu one here)
[11:36] <favro> might be the wrong locale or timezone
[11:38] <Mirrakor> or auto-adjust is disabled
[11:38] <Mirrakor> ardchoille: are you listening?
[11:38] <DarkSmoke> Mirrakor: how do i turn auto-adjust on?
[11:40] <ardchoille> Mirrakor: yes
[11:41] <Mirrakor> DarkSmoke: good question I don't find it atm, but I think there was a switch somewhere (but since it should be on by default and you don't remember chaning it, it'll probably still be on :) ). I'd check the timezone as favro suggested
[11:41] <ardchoille> Mirrakor: I used it before but can't remember how it's called
[11:41] <Mirrakor> ardchoille: kfmclient exec <address>
[11:42] <DarkSmoke> i found it
[11:42] <ardchoille> Mirrakor: that's it, thank you :)
[11:42] <Mirrakor> (either use file:///home/foo/bar/file.bar or /home/foo/bar/file.bar )
[11:42] <DarkSmoke> right click on the clock, adjust, and there's an option to automatic clock
[11:45] <male33nrw> favro: there is something wrong with the network tools in kubuntu edition maybe
[11:46] <male33nrw> kcm_networkconfmodule
[11:46] <favro> male33nrw: that is my impression
[11:46] <male33nrw> maybe kde3 release works better ?
[11:46] <male33nrw> hmm
[11:47] <male33nrw> i´m not shure
[11:47] <favro> I only use kde in virtualbox and the network works ok there
[11:48] <favro> if that helps
[11:48] <male33nrw> i see
[11:48] <favro> it might be a local issue for you maybe...
[11:53] <male33nrw> maybe i should use gnome instead
[11:53] <male33nrw> i guess there are a lot of errors in kde
[11:55] <favro> male33nrw: what network h/ware are you using/
[11:55] <male33nrw> favro: what do you mean ?
[11:56] <male33nrw> normal class c home network :))
[11:57] <male33nrw> i read: when installing kde3 version of kcm_knetworkconfmodule it should work
[11:57] <male33nrw> but i don´t know
[11:58] <favro> lspci | grep Eth   will tell the h/ware
[12:01] <male33nrw> i see it is a realtec card
[12:01] <male33nrw> i see it is a realtek card
[12:01] <male33nrw> 8139
[12:02] <male33nrw> and the remote desktop in kde is nothing
[12:03] <male33nrw> i guess i must use x11vnc or something like that
[12:06] <busfahrer> By the way, will there still be a KDE 3.5 option in Kubuntu 8.10?
[12:08] <favro> no ibex only has kde4 afaik - #kubuntu-kde4 to check that :)
[12:12] <male33nrw> i was trying 8.04
[12:12] <male33nrw> i now downloadin version 8.10
[12:12] <male33nrw> maybe it works better
[12:12] <male33nrw> mayber there the mistake
[12:14] <favro> male33nrw: did someone in #kubuntu-kde4 suggest that?
[12:15] <male33nrw> no they don´t answer at all
[12:15] <male33nrw> :)
[12:15] <favro> that happens :)
[12:15] <male33nrw> yes
[12:15] <favro> it might still be early for them
[12:16] <male33nrw> where are you from favro ?
[12:16] <favro> Australia
[12:16] <favro> you male33nrw ?
[12:16] <male33nrw> i´m from germany
[12:17] <spawn57> hong kong here
[12:18] <male33nrw> uii far away from me
[12:18] <spawn57> but we speak the same language! :D
[12:18] <male33nrw> yes we try :)
[12:19] <male33nrw> that´s cool
[12:19] <spawn57> ah, I see I'm not the only one that uses smiely faces
[12:20] <favro> male33nrw: I thought english was your first language from what you typed - well done :)
[12:20] <male33nrw> thanks a lot favro
[12:20] <male33nrw> no german is my first language
[12:20] <favro> no accent at all ;)
[12:21] <male33nrw> hehehe
[12:21] <spawn57> amercian accent here..
[12:21] <Anubis> i' not familiar with that accent spawn :D :P
[12:21] <male33nrw> i try my best :)
[12:21] <Anubis> * i'm
[12:21] <spawn57> heh
[12:22] <male33nrw> hope now kubuntu 8.10 release works better
[12:22] <spawn57> than 8.04?
[12:22] <male33nrw> yes
[12:22] <spawn57> yeah kde 4 is better
[12:23] <spawn57> in 8.10
[12:23] <male33nrw> i hope so
[12:23] <spawn57> still buggy though
[12:23] <spawn57> plasma stilll crashes on my ass
[12:23] <male33nrw> in 8.04 kde4 no network config manualy works
[12:23] <male33nrw> in kde
[12:23] <male33nrw> there is a module wrong
[12:24] <favro> male33nrw: do you have kde3 as well?
[12:24] <male33nrw> no
[12:24] <favro> k
[12:24] <male33nrw> do you think i should try kde3 ?
[12:24] <male33nrw> i need it only for a old pc
[12:25] <Freku> old pc,  dont use kde
[12:25] <Freku> depends a bit on how old offcourse
[12:26] <male33nrw> heh
[12:26] <male33nrw> 900 mhz 500 mb ram
[12:26] <Freku> ?
[12:26] <male33nrw> :)
[12:26] <Freku> maybe better to use xubuntu  xfce
[12:26] <male33nrw> i did this before
[12:26] <male33nrw> but networking is crap
[12:27] <male33nrw> accessing smb shares
[12:27] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. I know this probably isn't a smart idea, but I was wondering if it is possible to create two accounts that have the same home directory using Linux (not necessarily Kubuntu)
[12:27] <spawn57> same home dir?
[12:27] <tphilosopher> Yup.
[12:27] <spawn57> that's gonna be tough..
[12:27] <male33nrw> what a idea
[12:28] <spawn57> it's oki to share the same settings?
[12:28] <Freku> maybe with link: ln
[12:28] <tphilosopher> Symlinking. Never thought of that.
[12:29] <tphilosopher> Thanks Freku
[12:29] <spawn57> that'll work, or you can set the home dir by doing usermod -s /home/user1 user2
[12:29] <spawn57> oops wiat
[12:29] <spawn57> usermod -d /home/user1 user2
[12:30] <tphilosopher> That is awesome. Thanks very much guys.
[12:30] <male33nrw> :)
[12:30] <spawn57> np
[12:30] <male33nrw> why setting up two users with same home dir ?
[12:31] <male33nrw> wondering
[12:31] <Freku> they are twins  :)
[12:31] <male33nrw> maybe
[12:31] <tphilosopher> Lqtm.
[12:31] <male33nrw> freku:do you have kubuntu 8.10 installed ?
[12:32] <Freku> no
[12:32] <male33nrw> spawn57 ? you ?
[12:32] <tphilosopher> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed.
[12:32] <male33nrw> oh nice
[12:32] <spawn57> 8.10 today
[12:32] <spawn57> was a pain.. I'm a big kde 3.5.10 fan
[12:33] <male33nrw> could you try starting in knetworkmanager the manual configuration button ?
[12:33] <male33nrw> does a window appear ?
[12:33] <tphilosopher> I really like KDE4, but would rather wait until everything I want is ported to KDE4... I'm a consistency freak. ;)
[12:34] <Freku> back to debian then
[12:34] <Freku> :)
[12:34] <male33nrw> spawn57 ?
[12:35] <spawn57> tphilosopher: same here, but I've got a bleeding edge fetish...
[12:35] <spawn57> got me into trouble today :|
[12:35] <male33nrw> hihi
[12:35] <spawn57> male33nrw: one sec
[12:35] <male33nrw> yes
[12:35] <papi> hi
[12:35] <Freku> if you get older you learn to control that  and wait a few weeks
[12:35] <tphilosopher> As for why I'm interested in creating two users using the same directory. I was just hoping to test how well using another user account as a sandbox would be. My idea involves third party software running as the sandbox user and distribution repository software running as the normal user (as it is presumably trusted).
[12:35] <Freku> :)
[12:36] <spawn57> male33nrw: seems to be working, it detected my card and found my wifi outta the box
[12:36] <tphilosopher> The normal user account would be able to edit files created by the sandbox user but not the other way around. Settings and files are safe from being tampered with.
[12:36] <Freku> i hope it doesnt give rights on files problems
[12:36] <male33nrw> ah you use wifi
[12:36] <male33nrw> i´m using wired connection
[12:37] <spawn57> male33nrw: naw, wired
[12:37] <spawn57> male33nrw: alright lemme check that for you too
[12:37] <male33nrw> when you right click on the icon there is a point manual configuration because i need a static ip
[12:37] <tphilosopher> Freku: I'll try this in a VM.
[12:38] <Freku> k
[12:38] <spawn57> the window pops up..
[12:38] <male33nrw> cool
[12:38] <male33nrw> with interfaces ?
[12:38] <spawn57> but I'm afraid to configure it, i did a dist-upgrade...
[12:38] <spawn57> it show's eth1 .... lemme check if that's right..
[12:39] <spawn57> yeah it's right, but it doesn't show it as 'configured' even though I did configure it.  Try it out though.  Seems alright
[12:39] <male33nrw> i guess it is right
[12:39] <tphilosopher> The only problem I currently foresee is when a file is created by the normal user (say using OpenOffice) and then the use a third party AbiWord. Usability issue.
[12:40] <male33nrw> thanks spawn than i will test it :)
[12:41] <spawn57> np
[12:42] <tphilosopher> Of course, there's also configuration settings being edited as well. Same basic problem though.
[12:45] <male33nrw> hmmm what´s about cooking ?
[12:45] <ubuntu> 8.01?
[12:45] <ubuntu> 8.10 even
[12:46] <male33nrw> i´m hungry but don´t know
[12:46] <ubuntu> this is strange I am missing pixels above and below the monitor just enough to be uncomfortable but not enough to hurt functionality
[12:46] <ubuntu> overall seems a lot better than last time I tried kde/kubutu compiz out of the box nice ;-)
[12:47] <Tm_T> !ibex | ubuntu
[12:48] <ubuntu>  Tm_T noted - did not know if it was the same in #k as #u
[12:52] <Smacker> i have  a little problem, i run kubuntu 8.04 and need to install drivers for my graphic card.. but when iḿ  trying to do that from system->hardware drivers manager i just get the message "you haft to be loged in as root or use the sudo command" and i dont know how to install this from the console.
[12:52] <Smacker> and the root login seems to be disabled
[12:52] <Freku> it doesnt ask for password ?
[12:53] <Smacker> no :/ i just says i haft to be loged in as root or use the sudo command :(
[12:53] <Smacker> it just*
[12:53] <Freku> so use the sudo command
[12:53] <Tm_T> Smacker: what is your graphics card?
[12:53] <Freku> oh i see
[12:53] <Freku> :(
[12:54] <Smacker> Tm_T: nvidia geforce 7600 gs
[12:54] <Smacker> not so good but thatś what i have to this computer atm :)
[12:55] <Tm_T> far better than mine (;)
[12:55] <Smacker> hehe okej :P
[12:55] <Tm_T> Smacker: then do this in Konsole: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:55] <Smacker> Tm_T: okej, i try that :P thanks
[12:58] <replman> Hi! I'm trying to use javaws from sun, but it seems not to be installed with the jdk. Is there no webstart available for java6, amd64?
[13:03] <djdarkman> hello, I`ve read about ibex, will there be a way to install ibex and install kde3 on it or it's totally not supported?
[13:04] <Freku> well its linux  chances are its possible
[13:06] <favro> !ibex
[13:11] <condon> Can anyone tell me why I might not be getting any dl speed (literaly, 0, stalled) in KTorrent?  New install of Kubuntu 8.04
[13:11] <Mirrakor> condon: firefall?
[13:11] <mneisen> Hi, after an update to linux-image-2.6.24-21-server, I still have only the *-19 in grub/menu.lst. Is this normal, or did the update fail?
[13:11] <Freku> provider capping
[13:11] <condon> Does Kubuntu come with one?  Thre's no hardware there
[13:11] <condon> do they just cap linux cause I was flying in windows
[13:11] <[ifroog]> Hi, Is any one here on aSmallWorld?
[13:12] <Freku> 0 is more than capping
[13:12] <Freku> something else going on
[13:12] <condon> Just didn't know if there's some protocol or driver I have to download befor ktorrent will do its thing
[13:13] <Freku> should work immediatly
[13:13] <condon> That's what I was affraid of.
[13:13] <Freku> so firewall in router maybe ?
[13:14] <Freku> or try another torrent
[13:14] <condon> Never was before (had feisty, windows, etc.)
[13:15] <favro> condon: there have been people saying ktorrent has issues...
[13:15] <condon> other torrent did the same thing, stalled instantly.
[13:16] <jimmy51_home> how do i make the Compiz Fuzion Icon start automatically?
[13:16] <condon> Might I have to change read/write abilities for my desktop/torrents folder?
[13:16] <Freku> dont know, try other torrent-client ?
[13:18] <Schuenemann> hey, my system restarted after I tried to play a game. Which log should I see to discover the cause?
[13:22] <favro> in /var/log there might be one for the game or Xorg.0.log might have something
[13:24] <Paraselene> Getting a subversion error: "svn: This client is too old to work with working copy '.'; please get a newer Subversion client"
[13:24] <Paraselene> I've reinstalled it, it's the latest version in the repo -- known bug?
[13:24] <Paraselene> or something I'm doing wrong?
[13:25] <Freku> maybe the working copy is corrupted ?
[13:25] <Schuenemann> favro, there is none for the game and nothing in Xorg.0.log :/
[13:26] <favro> that happens - anything in dmesg?
[13:26] <Schuenemann> favro, what should I look for?
[13:27] <vassili> #suse
[13:27] <vassili> #suse-ru
[13:27] <favro> no idea - I would try   dmesg | tail   and have a read :)
[13:27] <Freku> latest version subversion is 1.5.4, check yours
[13:28] <Schuenemann> there is nothing :(
[13:28] <Schuenemann> that happens with other 3d games too
[13:28] <Schuenemann> they either crash or boot computer
[13:29] <vassili> hi all! i looking to the Cakewalk Sonar 4 or 5,6,7... Who have it???
[13:29] <vassili> #suse-rus
[13:30] <vassili> hi all! i looking to the Cakewalk Sonar 4 or 5,6,7... Who have it???
[13:30] <vassili> hi all! i looking to the Cakewalk Sonar 4 or 5,6,7... Who have it???
[13:31] <favro> !repeat
[13:31] <vassili> #ubuntu -ru
[13:31] <vassili> #ubuntu-ru
[13:33] <Paraselene> Freku: I'm getting 1.4.6 from the repos for some reason
[13:34] <Paraselene> running kubuntu hardy, latest update, and even when I add the 'proposed' repo, it thinks the latest svn is 1.4.6
[13:36] <Freku> yes i see, its idd the version in repo
[13:37] <Paraselene> installing from source now, but that's caused me some minor hassle (setting up emacs, assumed emacs's vc stuff wasn't configured properly)
[13:37] <condon> I'm about 30 seconds away from putting windows back on this P.o.S
[13:38] <Freku> 29
[13:38] <Freku> 28
[13:38] <Freku> :)
[13:38] <condon> Thanks Freku, first time I've smiled since I've been on this thing today
[13:38] <Freku> itss a bit of a adjustment
[13:38] <Freku> but i wont go back to windows
[13:39] <Freku> in beginning i wanted to go back too
[13:39] <condon> trying to set up Azurus, testing the TCP port, the port it defaults to, and the two ports I have forwarded from the last time I had linux/azurus on here (still on the virtual servers portion of the router)
[13:40] <condon> they all say "NAT Error - Connect attempt to ##.##.##.###:Port# (your computer) timed out after 20 seconds. This means your port is probably closed.
[13:40] <condon> How do I OPEN it?
[13:40] <Freku> reset router 1st ?
[13:40] <condon> did
[13:40] <condon> first thing I did, used to that crap in windows.
[13:41] <Freku> :)
[13:41] <Freku> if you have to open port you got a firewall installed ?
[13:42] <condon> no, no firewall.
[13:42] <favro> sudo ipyables -L will tell
[13:43] <favro> sudo iptables -L will tell even...
[13:43] <condon> Ahhh....that makes more sense :)
[13:44] <condon> Chain INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT all say the same thing (policy accept, target, prto opt source
[13:45] <favro> nothing set there then
[13:45] <condon> how do I set up a static IP in ubuntu, or can't I?
[13:46] <favro> right click knetworkmanager and select manual config
[13:46] <Freku> ah  maybe ipadres if diff then defined in router
[13:47] <condon> ahell, it's already set up...that's not it
[13:49] <emma> what do kubuntu people use as an app like frostwire, or is it safe to put frostwire on kubuntu without it becoming 'contaminated' ?
[13:50] <Freku> you can download frostwire for kubuntu
[13:51] <Freku> but contamination not from downloading
[13:51] <Freku> but from starting downloaded programs
[13:52] <Freku> through frostwire
[14:05] <male33nrw> so neuer test :) ubuntu 8.10
[14:05] <male33nrw> new test :)
[14:05] <ubuntu_> what is this
[14:06] <male33nrw> kubuntu
[14:06] <male33nrw> i mean :)
[14:06] <qwertz> Hallo, wenn ich in KDE4 plasmoids hinzufügen will (rechtsklick auf arbeitsfläche > hinzufügen > aus dem Internet herunterladen kommt nach ca. 20 sekunden die Fehlermeldung Beim Laden der Daten-Anbieter ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.                 Warum funktioniert das denn nicht?
[14:06] <male33nrw> hmmm
[14:07] <male33nrw> was funktioniert bei kde4 schon :))
[14:07] <Big> w
[14:07] <qwertz> hmm falscher channel, eigentlich wollte ich kubuntu-de :D
[14:07] <qwertz> male33nrw: :(
[14:09] <Wolverine> kk
[14:15] <Gladiator2008> Hi everybody!
[14:16] <chills> hey guys this might sound stupid.. but i deleted my desktop panel .. now that i add it it comes on the top of the screen how do i bring it to the buttom. in kubuntu
[14:23] <djdarkman> does someone know if I can host a wireless network with a laptop?
[14:24] <chills> yea you can
[14:26] <metellius> my first attempt at kubuntu 8.10 RC now: splash screen for a loong time, finally the nice intro tune, and at the same time a niiice fade to ....black...? I know it's a RC, but I kind of expected something like this to not happen
[14:29] <adz21c> metellius: I think any 8.10 support is handled in #ubuntu+1, but i cam running 8.10 and it worked fine for me
[14:30] <metellius> adz21c: I just found the problem. although it is the same as I had before on an opensuse computer, it looked different
[14:31] <adz21c> metellius: what is the problem out of curiosity?
[14:31] <metellius> scim leaves some temprorary files under tmp, and if they're not cleaned up properly, scim will basically ruin startup of ANYTHING using a gui element
[14:31] <webas> hi.. is there any program that captures screen just like fraps?
[14:31] <metellius> once I get it fixed I'm going to see if there's a bug report
[14:32] <pronoy> I downloaded KDE4 and i got KDE 4.0,3 with ubuntu 8.04, is it possible to download 4.1 over this environment ?
[14:32] <metellius> but kubuntu developers should really have a look at scim, it has been in the way many many times and is in the need of fixing very bad.
[14:32] <adz21c> pronoy: there is a ppa with 4.1 in it, go to #kubuntu-kde4, someone will know ther, and i bet the link is in the channel topic
[14:33] <adz21c> metellius: what does scim do, i never looked into it before
[14:36] <metellius> adz21c: it's a framework for input in non-alphabet languages
[14:36] <metellius> chinese etc
[14:36] <adz21c> oh ok cool
[14:38] <avihayb> !scim
[14:39] <avihayb> damn, that ubottu knows everything
[14:45] <myPup-Anonymous> can anyone give me a hand setting up my video card?
[14:46] <myPup-Anonymous> im having probs with resolution. its a nvidia gf4 ti4200
[14:47] <pronoy> myPup-Anonymuous: did you download the nvidia packages ?
[15:00] <glade88> hello.. is "kdesdk" the binary for kate?
[15:00] <glade88> ie, the binary to be pointed to while reporting a kate bug?
[15:02] <LjL> don't think so...
[15:02] <LjL> the binary is probably, well, "kate"?
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> not sure glade88.
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> 'kdesdk' sounds like it'd be related to sound and kde, but that's just my guess.
[15:03] <jdnewmil> kdesdk  would be the kde software development kit
[15:04] <maxbaldwin> jdnewmil's right.
[15:04] <glade88> well, apt-cache showsrc kate shows kdesdk
[15:04] <maxbaldwin> what do you need the binary for?
[15:04] <glade88> to point to the binary package while reporting kate bugs
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> I think there's a crash application that sends it to launchpad for you...? and it'll include the package
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> or at leash it was in GNOME
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> *least
[15:05] <glade88> max
[15:05] <glade88> oops
[15:05] <jdnewmil> "which kate"
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> yes?
[15:05] <glade88> maxbaldwin: well, apport? no, I dont hve a crash
[15:07] <maxbaldwin> I dunno then, maybe someone else will.
[15:08] <dominik> :)
[15:08] <maxbaldwin> hello dominik, need something?
[15:08] <glade88> jdnewmil: well, which <appname> would not probably help me.. for ex, which dolphin returns /usr/bin/dolphin, which should mean dolphin is the binary.. but actually, dolphin was merged to kdebase
[15:09] <glade88> jdnewmil: thanks for the reply though :)
[15:09] <dominik> Hi, no thanks :D Just testing the Konversation programm 'cause it's new to me ;)
[15:09] <dominik> Is it only English?
[15:10] <maxbaldwin> I'm not sure!
[15:10] <jdnewmil> glade88: your use of the term binary is ... odd ... I have always equated that with the executable file, not a package name
[15:11] <dominik> Not? Oh okay. Just because originally i'm from germany and well...my English isn't that well as I could talk here if it's only English. Don't know it :D
[15:12] <glade88> very strange, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/116635 -- is a kate bug showing kdebase as package, while https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/259772 points to kdesdk
[15:13] <jdnewmil> dominik: the program is language neutral... the channel may be language specific by convention
[15:13] <glade88> jdnewmil: "Affects" package should be the binary, afaik. was told so by a developer :)
[15:13] <maxbaldwin> dominik: however, there's a specific channel for german-ubuntu or kubuntu I believe
[15:14] <maxbaldwin> !ge | dominik
[15:15] <dominik> Yes right, there is one but there are no people :D
[15:18] <maxbaldwin> uhh.... then I can't help.
[15:22] <RurouniJones> The german channel is
[15:22] <RurouniJones> !de
[15:22] <RurouniJones> Not !ge :)
[15:25] <maxbaldwin> what's !ge then?
[15:26] <RurouniJones> Not a clue, but I don't recognise the alphabet. looking up the two letter ISO country/language code will probably tell you
[15:43] <ep> I have a Nvida FX 5200 on 8.04  The 3D drivers freeze X.  Two weeks ago it worked.  I'm reasearching how to troubleshoot the problem.  One question, could this somehow be a hardware problem?  The generic "nv" driver works fine but on weird thing is happening.  This is dual boot and I can't boot to win2k unless i use safe mode.
[15:46] <simon_b> hi! anyone had troubles playing dvd's with xine? i get no sound thru spdif... but the sound works with other formats...
[15:47] <simon_b> the Xine log is "clean"... no errors..
[15:48] <simon_b> no idea?
[15:54] <pronoy_> there is no 8.10 install on the internet..just 8.04 ???
[15:55] <pronoy_> there is no 8.10 install on the internet..just 8.04 ???
[15:55] <pronoy_> there is no 8.10 install on the internet..just 8.04 ???
[15:59] <HamishTPB> pronoy_: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-rc
[15:59] <pronoy_> HamishTPB: but we can download only 8.04 right now..the RC isn't available
[16:00] <RurouniJones> pronoy_:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/RC/Kubuntu
[16:00] <RurouniJones> you have to follow the release info link
[16:00] <HamishTPB> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Beta/Kubuntu
[16:01] <HamishTPB> oops
[16:01] <HamishTPB> yes - that link not the one I said
[16:02] <blip-> hi all, im running kubuntu 8.04 KDE3...how easy and reliable is it to install KDE4 from the repos ?  Will it be compartively good to the KDE4 in Kubuntu 8.10 ?  thanks
[16:05] <JohnFlux2> blip-: given that 8.10 is out in 4 days or something, why not just wait? :)
[16:12] <templ4rio> hola a todos
[16:12] <templ4rio> un favor quisiera crear un nuevo usuario en mi kubuntu
[16:12] <templ4rio> cual serian los pasos
[16:13] <emilsedgh> !es | templ4rio
[16:13] <blip-> JohnFlux2: i need to stick with 8.04 since i'm developing software meant to run on an 8.04 and need max compatility... anyway do you think the KDE4 in the repos runs fine ?    Is it acutally different from the one in 8.01 ?
[16:13] <blip-> *actually
[16:14] <JohnFlux2> blip-: it's probably pretty old
[16:15] <JohnFlux2> blip-: i wouldn't bother trying :)
[16:15] <blip-> hmm i see.  alright thanks JohnFlux2
[16:15] <blip-> i guess KDE4 is in the early stages anyway
[16:16] <blip-> i probably won't find many things in there
[16:17] <KDesk> is there any repo like packman from opensuse but for (k)ubunut?
[16:17] <Bones122> Going to KDE4 is like going from xp to vista you won't like it one bit
[16:18] <blip-> Bones122: hmm,  i was under the impression that KDE4 is faster and lighter than KDE3...
[16:19] <Bones122> it is but still too buggy
[16:19] <Bones122> But its being worked
[16:19] <zabbadapp> and lacking
[16:21] <KDesk> will the new kubunut release use pulseaudio?
[16:22] <Tm_T> KDesk: by default?
[16:22] <KDesk> Tm_T: yes, like mandriva, the have in both gnome and kde version. I also dont know if that is good or not.
[16:23] <jih2d> hello! my phone will cut off this month and I need a grandcentral invite.. help?
[16:23] <Tm_T> KDesk: it can use pulseaudio, but what you mean by "gnome and kde version" ?
[16:23] <Tm_T> jih2d: wrong channel
[16:24] <alabamahithi> AlabamaHit
[16:24] <alabamahithi> ..
[16:24] <alabamahit> sorry
[16:24] <alabamahit> testing out Konversation
[16:24] <KDesk> Tm_T: in both versions of mandriva, the one with kde and the one with gnome will use pulseaudio by default.
[16:25] <Tm_T> KDesk: I think it's there by default yes, but don't know for sure
[16:25] <Tm_T> but it's easy to not use it too
[16:26] <AlabamaHit> does it hightlight if someone types your name (Konverstion IRC that is..)
[16:27] <jannott> dolphin and kate = one error message quaranteed every time i open a file :'(
[16:37] <penn> 如何删除kubuntu桌面，我自己安装的kde
[16:53] <NauarchLysander> Is there a possibility to exclude certain directories from a search with the 'find' command?
[17:04] <makaveli> l
[17:05] <KDesk> is there a way in the quick access plasmoid to go un level (directory) up?
[17:06] <KDesk> or should I ask in #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[17:10] <coubeatczech> hello, do find out which partitons do I have on my HD?
[17:10] <coubeatczech> hello, do anyone know how to find out which partitons do I have on my HD?
[17:11] <||arifaX> coubeatczech: sudo fdisk -l
[17:11] <coubeatczech> great, thanks
[17:12] <||arifaX> coubeatczech: to have some visual interface you should install/start      qtparted
[17:12] <coubeatczech> I dont need, and do you know what does mean the asterisk in Boot column?
[17:33] <webas> how to disable strange stuff..then i put my mouse over any program ( in the kmenu line ) the music stops playing and video stops going
[17:34] <zer0o> hi guys what is a TD ?
[17:37] <Bones122> !TD
[17:37] <Bones122> !help
[17:37] <oobe> tiny dick
[17:38] <zer0o> oobe: LOL
[17:38] <zer0o> so u dont no, alright
[17:38] <oobe> that was funny
[17:38] <Tm_T> oobe: no it's not, please behave
[17:39] <zer0o> i was thinking, can it mean like TuesDay ?
[17:40] <oobe> where does it say td
[17:40] <zer0o> a friend sent me a mail asking me if we can meet on next tuesday and the subject of the mail is "Can you reccomend a new TD?"
[17:40] <zer0o> so i guess he has to mean TuesDay
[17:45] <Dragonath> hey, I have a problem with my keyboard
[17:45] <Dragonath> alt gr button doesn't work
[17:46] <Dragonath> this probably has something to do with x server
[17:46] <Dragonath> should I just reconfigure it or can I copy the "InputDevice" section from the last backup and just restart X?
[17:54] <oobe> Dragnslcr, that should work
[17:54] <doilgheas> i need a systemlink like ln -s /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh /etc/rc0.d/K15umountnfs.sh where my network devices will automaticly unmount before a suspend. has anyone an idea?
[17:56] <oobe> maybe add the umount cmd to the suspend script
[17:57] <doilgheas> whats the name of the suspend script?
[17:57] <oobe> i dont know
[17:57] <doilgheas> there is no path like /etc/suspend
[17:57] <doilgheas> or something like that
[17:57] <oobe> it is somewhere
[17:57] <oobe> it was just a thought
[17:58] <oobe> /etc/acpi/suspend.d
[17:58] <oobe> but really i wouldnt try what i sugested with out looking into it a bit more
[17:59] <doilgheas> yeah ok
[17:59] <doilgheas> thx
[18:00] <oobe> /usr/sbin/pm-suspend
[18:00] <oobe> thats on my system
[18:01] <oobe> you could rename it to somthing else
[18:01] <oobe> and edit it
[18:01] <oobe> test it and if it works put it in /usr/local/bin so it wont get overwritten
[18:03] <doilgheas> my idea was to make the systemlink like for init0 and init 6 before :D
[18:12] <glade88> hello.. how do I get the "kept back" ones? http://pastebin.com/m7d0c4905
[18:16] <doilgheas> thx for helping me :D
[18:36] <NauarchLysander> How can I disable the system sound? I just happened to login and hit backspace once more (when there was nothing in the field anymore) and because I was wearing earphones it literally (I really mean that, it was awful!) blew my ears away.
[18:36] <pulaski> Hi, I'm still dealing with setting up NIS on my file server. My /etc/exports file can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/62954/.  After making changes to this file I run exportfs -a and in return I get the following errors: "exportfs: could not open /var/lib/nfs/etab for locking" and "exportfs: can't lock /var/lib/nfs/etab for writing".  For what its worth both statd and lockd show up using ps ax | grep 'statd' adn ps ax |
[18:36] <pulaski> grep 'lockd"  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[18:40] <nikolay> are dummy questions allowed here?
[18:42] <NauarchLysander> nikolay: When you've already tried to solve it (Google, etc.) and haven't found anything, yes.
[18:46] <nikolay> Thank you for advice! :) I've just found how to set up a language indicator in ubuntu. And it's nice to chat. I just wanted to try :)
[18:48] <NauarchLysander> nikolay: No problem.
[18:51] <tigran> bonsoir
[18:52] <tigran> est ce que ya quelqun qui peux m'aider
[18:54] <sara_> hiya
[18:54] <sara_> how do i add a language on my newly installed kubuntu kd4 box?
[18:57] <Search4Lancer> problem: my CPU is stuck at it's lowest setting. Every time I fire up, I echo the conservative setting to scaling_governor, which has always worked just fine before, but for some reason right now that file is blank. scaling_max_freq was also showing the lowest frequency, and when I tried to change it, it went blank as well.
[18:57] <webas> can anyone help me shortly with quake3 instaliation on 64bit kubuntu? when i install pointrelease i get this error - http://pastie.org/300900
[18:58] <Search4Lancer> rah, nevermind, suddenly it's working correctly again, acting as if it's on the conservative setting - even though those files are still blank
[19:02] <leon_> anyone willing to helpme?
[19:09] <pulaski> Hi, I'm still dealing with setting up NIS on my file server. My /etc/exports file can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/62954/.  After making changes to this file I run exportfs -a and in return I get the following errors: "exportfs: could not open /var/lib/nfs/etab for locking" and "exportfs: can't lock /var/lib/nfs/etab for writing".  For what its worth both statd and lockd show up using ps ax | grep 'statd' adn ps ax |
[19:09] <pulaski> [11:36] <pulaski> grep 'lockd"  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:10] <memeemeee> anyone good with networking?
[19:11] <sara_> not me :)
[19:11] <pulaski> I deleted a line from my /etc/exports file and replaced it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/62961/ however there is no change to the export -ra errors posted above.
[19:16] <zer0o> hi guys, where's konqueror's cache?
[19:17] <ToHellWithGA> how can i set the default behavior to double click mode rather than single click mode when running kde4 applications in gnome?
[19:18] <ToHellWithGA> the systemsettings applet is really minimal
[19:18] <ToHellWithGA> i don't see a mouse/keyboard section like i did in kde3
[19:18] <ToHellWithGA> s/applet/application/
[19:18] <sara_> how so i change language in kde?
[19:18] <sara_> there is only us english to choose from
[19:19] <elii> hello! how can I find out which version is available for a particular package
[19:19] <elii> say I want to install flash version 7 instead of 9, how can I do it?
[19:21] <ammon86> hello
[19:21] <elii> sara_: controll pannel-> language and localization (don't know how it's written for you)
[19:21] <sara_> yah.. found that,., but there is only one language to choose from.. us english
[19:21] <ammon86> does someone uses Kdevelop?
[19:21] <sara_> need swedish
[19:22] <elii> sara_: there is a button on bottom install new lang
[19:22] <elii> sara_:  and that doesn't controll keybord layout
[19:23] <sara_> keyboard is fine
[19:23] <sara_> but the language in programs a
[19:23] <sara_> arn't
[19:24] <ammon86> Could someone tell how can I restore default settings of IDE Window in Kdevelop, because I've turned off the button panel by accident I cannot find a way to restore it
[19:24] <elii> how can I find out which version is available for a particular package?
[19:30] <MNGoldenEagle> I just recently installed Kubuntu 8.10 on my computer in hopes of being able to dual-boot my machine.  But after I rebooted, I got an Error 22 and can't access Windows XP or Linux.  Can anyone help?
[19:30] <sara_> damn adept installer'
[19:30] <sara_> its missing packages
[19:30] <sara_> found swedishh language for kde in aptitude
[19:47] <StarSega> hi
[19:47] <yousef> hey
[19:48] <StarSega> I installed KDE but I want my old boot logo back. It's the Kubnutu one.
[19:48] <StarSega> I want to Ubuntu in back
[19:49] <yousef> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235748
[19:50] <StarSega> thanks
[19:50] <yousef> k
[19:53] <StarSega> how do i enable DVD playback?
[19:54] <yousef> enable?
[19:54] <yousef> by deafult it should be enabled
[19:54] <yousef> *default
[19:55] <StarSega> it is on my laptop but not my desktop
[19:56] <yousef> what happens exactly when you try to play?
[19:58] <StarSega> i'm not sure i'm not on my desktop right now
[19:58] <StarSega> someting about codecs i think...
[19:59] <yousef> ok
[20:00] <StarSega> How do I get HD-DVDs to mount? I already tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD?
[20:03] <yousef> sorry i don't know
[20:03] <ToHellWithGA> do y'all know where i can change from single- to double-click mode?
[20:04] <ToHellWithGA> the systemsettings program doesn't have a mouse section for me
[20:05] <yousef> no mouse section?
[20:05] <yousef> in kubuntu?
[20:05] <ToHellWithGA> in ubuntu intrepid ibex
[20:05] <ToHellWithGA> with systemsettings installed
[20:05] <ToHellWithGA> the system settings options are very limited
[20:06] <yousef> well this is the kubuntu channel
[20:06] <yousef> kubuntu has mouse settings
[20:06] <ToHellWithGA> this is the most appropriate place
[20:06] <ToHellWithGA> could it be a flaw in the systemsettings package?
[20:07] <yousef> could be
[20:07] <ToHellWithGA> a dependency failing to be called that would allow customizing mouse/keyboard settings?
[20:07] <yousef> how do you change your keyboard settings?
[20:07] <ToHellWithGA> using gnome
[20:07] <yousef> so you cant do that either?
[20:07] <ToHellWithGA> system->preferences->keyboard
[20:07] <ToHellWithGA> i don't run kde
[20:07] <ToHellWithGA> systemsettings is my only interface to its settings
[20:08] <ToHellWithGA> i use k3b because the gnome-based cd/dvd burning software is awkward
[20:08] <yousef> i see
[20:08] <yousef> well i dont see how i can help then
[20:08] <ToHellWithGA> kde's default state put me off or i'd try it more seriously
[20:09] <ToHellWithGA> windows to gnome was an easier transition for me :/
[20:09] <ToHellWithGA> i'll check back later
[20:09] <ToHellWithGA> thanks yousef
[20:09] <ToHellWithGA> take 'er easy
[20:09] <yousef> cya
[20:12] <cattaro> Why when I press Alt+Tab Kubuntu hangs? and konqueror, dolphin work very very slow... sorry for ugly english...
[20:13] <Freddy2> hi
[20:14] <ThomasD> Is it safe to move a latop around when its in suspend mode?
[20:14] <freaky_t> dunno ^^
[20:16] <cattaro> who is from support here, mlya?
[20:16] <coubeatczech> do anyone know how to
[20:17] <coubeatczech> sorry bad key wanted backspace
[20:18] <Tm_T> cattaro: wat you mean by "from support" ?
[20:20] <cattaro> Tm_T: i need help... =) can you help me?
[20:20] <Tm_T> cattaro: don't ask to ask, just ask
[20:20] <Tm_T> we cannot know if we can help if you don't tell what's your broblem
[20:20] <cattaro> i asked,,,,
[20:21] <cattaro> Why when I press Alt+Tab Kubuntu hangs? and konqueror, dolphin work very very slow..
[20:24] <cattaro> maybe you need more information? ))
[20:26] <Guest50014> Anyone have any expierence setting up a headset via bluetooth?
[20:37] <tapas> what is kcontrol called in kde4?
[20:37] <derwolfi> hi
[20:37] <derwolfi> german
[20:37] <derwolfi> ??
[20:37] <tapas> me?
[20:37] <tapas> yep
[20:37] <derwolfi> kann einer deutsch?
[20:38] <tapas> gibt's nicht nen -de channel
[20:38] <tapas> ?
[20:38] <tapas> kubuntu-de
[20:38] <derwolfi> ich brauch mal hildfe
[20:39] <tapas> tippe /join #kubuntu-de :)
[20:40] <derwolfi> german?
[20:41] <antonio_> hello
[20:51] <Samuel-NotAFK> How do I limit my Ktorrent upload speed to 0kbps?
[20:53] <Search4Lancer> Samual-NotAFK: you can't
[20:54] <Search4Lancer> if you really want to be greedy by not sharing with others, keep it at 1kbps and change the options so that you don't share after you complete downloading
[20:55] <Samuel-NotAFK> Search4Lancer: My upload speed is seriously limiting my download speed at the moment.
[20:55] <Search4Lancer> so just change it to 1kbps
[20:55] <Search4Lancer> if it doesn't take effect right away, try stopping it and starting again
[20:55] <Samuel-NotAFK> I'm only getting about 10kbps :(
[20:56] <Search4Lancer> or just kicking peers who are leeching off of you
[20:56] <Search4Lancer> how do you know it's your uploading that's hampering your downloading?
[20:56] <Search4Lancer> it could simply be the other folks
[20:56] <Samuel-NotAFK> I set my upload speed to 10kbps and I could only manage about 5kbps download
[20:56] <Samuel-NotAFK> I always get fuck all download speed during the day. :(
[20:57] <Samuel-NotAFK> I think my ISP is throttling my Ubuntu ISO downloads. :(
[21:01] <jussi01> !ohmy | Samuel-NotAFK
[21:03] <Samuel-NotAFK> Jussi01: Sorry.
[21:03] <jussi01> :)
[21:03] <jussi01> Samuel-NotAFK: have you tried enabling dht?
[21:03] <Search4Lancer> again, samuel, it's likely just the people you're leeching off of have either knocked their upload speeds down (as you're contemplating doing), or are already uploading a bunch of other stuff
[21:03] <Search4Lancer> torrenting works better when everyone shares all friendly-like
[21:04] <Search4Lancer> which is why ktorrent doesn't allow you to set your upload speed to 0
[21:04] <Samuel-NotAFK> Jussi01: Enabled
[21:04]  * Search4Lancer fires up a 5GB torrent of Denno Coil
[21:04] <Samuel-NotAFK> Http://nemof.org/2007/12/08/how-to-stop-bt-throttling-your-bittorrent/ I'm going to try this.
[21:05] <Search4Lancer> coincidentally, I just changed my upload speed from 1 to unlimited, and suddenly everyone wants to send their chunks to me
[21:05] <Search4Lancer> karma, baby
[21:24] <simi> hi, in kde4 the shortcuts key do not work, so i need a easy to use application to set my laptop keyboards to control the volume of the sound
[21:24] <simi> can anyone point me to such an application?
[21:31] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[21:31] <jussi01> simi: ^^
[21:34] <blip-> hi, i've figure out how to change my login kdm theme as well as my grub theme... but where do i select the kubuntu boot theme ?   I installed some stuff from synaptic and now it shows Mythbuntu logo in silver color while booting.   where can that be changed ?   thanks
[21:34] <blip-> *figured
[21:35] <takoski> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63004/plain/
[21:37] <takoski> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63004/plain/
[21:39] <jannott> !shoutcast
[21:39] <blip-> !firestarter
[21:40] <blip-> !kontact
[21:40] <blip-> !kookooklock
[21:44] <alessandro> ciaoo a tutti!!
[21:49] <alessandro> c'è qualcuno disponibile ad aiutarmi?
[21:50] <blip-> alessandro: no italiano.   sorry.  try #kubuntu-it
[21:52] <blip-> no comprende :D  (wait that's spanish maybe)
[21:53] <blip-> alessandro del piero
[21:54] <Rioting_pacifist> lsusb isnt working!!!
[21:55] <blip-> Rioting_pacifist: that's not very useful.  describe the issue in more detail,  perhaps someone can aid you
[21:56] <Rioting_pacifist> i loaded up a webcam driver, everything was working fine i then rotated the webcam in my laptop. and now lsusb doesnt work any more nore does lsmod, rmmod, modprobe -r
[21:57] <blip-> so when you type "lsusb" in a console... you get no output ?
[21:57] <blip-> Rioting_pacifist: ^
[21:57] <Rioting_pacifist> i get no output and the console freezes up
[21:57] <blip-> oh that's really bad :)
[21:57] <Rioting_pacifist> well i can type in the console but ctrl+c/ctrl+d dont do anything nore does anything i type matter
[21:58] <blip-> i guess you tried unplugging the camera ?  restartiing the system ?
[21:59] <Rioting_pacifist> erm i cant unplug the camera its inside the laptop , i was hopping to not have to resort to that but im sure that will fix it
[21:59] <blip-> i can't see why a webcame driver wos uld cause this,  Rioting_pacifist, this seems like a deep linux issue.  try asking #linux,  the low level linux gurus are usually there
[22:00] <arnold> algun colombiano x aki ?
[22:01] <Rioting_pacifist> will give it a shot, i think the webcam driver definatly caused this as my dmesg is full of stuff about it but i dont understand how it broke everything, will check linux thx
[22:01] <Rioting_pacifist> ubottu: !es | arnold:
[22:03] <spragie> Ark makes kde lock up while testing an archive for integrity, when it finally finishes it gives as command line output: Read error in the file /home/spragie/pae/site/Pineapple.Express.2008.DVDSCR.XviD-HEFTY/hefty-pexpress.r31 [R]etry, [A]bort
[22:04] <spragie> Read error in the file /home/spragie/pae/site/Pineapple.Express.2008.DVDSCR.XviD-HEFTY/hefty-pexpress.r31
[22:04] <spragie> Inappropriate ioctl for device
[22:10] <monica> when you install madwifi thru adept, where is the dir created?
[22:13] <MellowDude> ok i was wanting to know is there any way to restrict banwith on one computer on my wireless router
[22:14] <monica> when you install madwifi thru adept, where is the dir created?
[22:16] <kurumin> list
[22:17] <monica> list?
[22:17] <monica> ?
[22:19]  * Nasj gone
[22:23] <bgr> fala blizzz
[22:27] <bgr> boa nigth regina
[22:27] <bgr> fala ae boss
[22:27] <bgr> boss q vc ta achando do Kng
[22:29] <bgr> ola jean-luc
[22:36] <GreenPeace> Hello, I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 rc, but get:
[22:36] <GreenPeace>   File "/tmp/kde-root/adept_managerZG2fha.tmp-extract/DistUpgradeController.py", line 25, in <module>
[22:36] <GreenPeace>     import apt
[22:36] <GreenPeace> ImportError: No module named apt
[22:45] <DarkTan> ok, how do i access files on a network comp running WinXP?
[22:47] <favro> !samba | DarkTan
[22:49] <DarkTan> ok, next question, my only repository is my Cd drive
[22:49] <DarkTan> how do i fix this?
[22:52] <favro> !reops | DarkTan
[22:53] <favro> !repos | DarkTan
[22:53] <Kage_Jittai> Trying to compile something and I get this error when I try to configure:
[22:53] <DarkTan> think i figured it out
[22:53] <Kage_Jittai> ./configure: line 4834: `AM_GNU_GETTEXT(external)'
[22:54] <werenered> OK, I have come to the conclusion that Kmail/Kontact stinks. I am trying to avoind any GTK apps ATM, can anyone recommend a QT based email app?
[22:56] <favro> Kage_Jittai: what are you trying to compile that gives that error?
[22:57] <Kage_Jittai> The mana world
[23:02] <vbgunz> can anyone please tell me, how I can get pass apt-gets "Couldn't find package" error? I would love a list of missing packages but this doesn't work... sudo apt-get -fms --ignore-missing install kde-window-manager apache2-prefork-dev basket ... it always stops dead at kde-window-manager... awesome, how can I just ignore it?
[23:05] <jdnewmil> vbgunz: aren't there an infinite number of possible packages that apt might not know about? Why not make sure your sources.list is configured correctly... look at the forest instead of the trees?
[23:05] <favro> vbgunz: there isn't a package kde-window-manager obviously - run your first apt-get again without thaat in the line
[23:06] <vbgunz> jdnewmil: look at my question and not the frying pan :)
[23:07] <vbgunz> point is, I am trying to simulate the download and install not install or download anything. I put '--ignore-missing', -m and -f...  Iam not trying to download and install anything... I am trying to see what is unreachable and what isn't
[23:08] <vbgunz> I am pretty tired of editing a huge number of packages for apt-get to remove missing packages... is there a better way to see what is reachable and what isn't?
[23:09] <favro> I use   apt-cache search something   to find out what is available
[23:10] <favro> e.g. apt-cache search kde | sort
[23:37] <x_link> Hi!
[23:38] <x_link> I just installed kubuntu in CLI-mode
[23:38] <x_link> Then I installed kdecore, xserver-xorg and kde3.
[23:38] <x_link> kde I mean.
[23:38] <x_link> But I don't get any k-menu.
[23:38] <x_link> Does anybody know why it's like this?
[23:40] <cuznt> x-link try right clicking on the task bar and see if you can add applet
[23:40] <cuznt> and add kmenu
[23:41] <x_link> Okej
[23:41] <x_link> cuznt: Should I search for k-menu?
[23:41] <x_link> Ahh, found it.
[23:42] <x_link> Perfect, thanks!
[23:42] <x_link> cuznt: I didn't think of that at all.
[23:43] <x_link> cuznt: But I can't move it, I got it in the middle of the taskbar.
[23:43] <DarkTan> ! swat
[23:46] <cuznt> right click on it and choose move
[23:46] <DarkTan> ok, guess i'll configure that later
[23:46] <DarkTan> how do i get my sound card working?
[23:47] <x_link> cuznt: I just fixed that. Thanks man for helping me. I really appreciate it alot!
[23:47] <cuznt> ;) np
[23:50] <ArtificialSynaps> Hello, does anyone know a good client to monitor syslog files with that isn't syslog-ng?
[23:50] <x_link> cuznt: I don't find where to add more desktops.
[23:51] <x_link> Ahh, nothing = )