| thorwil | good morning! | 08:22 |
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| nand | good moorning! | 08:41 |
| b_mind | hey guys, does somebody knows hot to change tabs background here http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terminalik3.png without modifying background of all GtkContainer ? | 09:26 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: welcome, sir! | 13:37 |
| _MMA_ | Yo | 13:37 |
| * _MMA_ will be around for a good part of the day today. (Is his last weekend in Mexico) | 13:38 | |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i wonder, have you had a listen to severed fifth? | 13:38 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: I am a friend of Jonos. :) So yes. | 13:38 |
| thorwil | hope he will release track-wise, so i can have a play, remix | 13:40 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: is it my ears not used to the style or are the guitars a bit raspy? | 13:41 |
| _MMA_ | They are. It's his tuning I believe. Not as low as you hear now-a-days I believe. | 13:42 |
| atwkevin | Hello. =) | 20:27 |
| atwkevin | Seems to be quite dead in here. | 20:32 |
| thorwil | brains! | 20:32 |
| atwkevin | D: ew. | 20:33 |
| atwkevin | : D thought i would throw a few things into the hat here. | 20:36 |
| thorwil | things? hat? | 20:36 |
| kwwii | who's hat? | 20:36 |
| atwkevin | Niel Patrick Harris's hat. | 20:37 |
| thorwil | at least no throwing hats like odd-job | 20:37 |
| kwwii | I only wear hats when it is cold or raining | 20:37 |
| atwkevin | anyways, are you all familiar with a program known as apophysis? | 20:38 |
| thorwil | nope | 20:38 |
| atwkevin | it cranks out some pretty good looking wallpapers from fractals. | 20:39 |
| kwwii | cool, you should make some and put them on the wiki with your suggestions | 20:40 |
| thorwil | fractals are scary. you never know what's hiding in them a few iterations in! | 20:40 |
| atwkevin | http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m29/vashthstampede98/Apophysis-080905-460.jpg | 20:41 |
| atwkevin | www.apophysis.org | 20:41 |
| atwkevin | i think... >.> | 20:41 |
| thorwil | bah, Freeware editor for Windows | 20:42 |
| kwwii | ouch, nasty stuff that "freeware" | 20:43 |
| atwkevin | Yeah. I know. Buuuuut it works. | 20:44 |
| _MMA_ | There's a 100 ways to do them in linux as well. I even think there are GIMP plugins. | 20:44 |
| atwkevin | That and it supports 3 cores =_= | 20:45 |
| _MMA_ | http://s10.invisionfree.com/Raptor_Designs/index.php?showtopic=31 | 20:46 |
| atwkevin | I see ^^ | 20:46 |
| kwwii | I must admit that all the stuff I have seen on linux makes pics that look mainly like lots of lines, nothing really nice | 20:47 |
| atwkevin | http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m29/vashthstampede98/Apophysis-080912-34.jpg | 20:47 |
| atwkevin | these take around 2 minutes to render across a phenom X3 | 20:47 |
| thorwil | not exciting at all. unlike http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/fractal.jpg | 20:48 |
| atwkevin | That looks as if it were photoshopped :P | 20:48 |
| kwwii | the point of the artwork should not just be to find a pretty pic to use...there should also be a whole structure behind why we use it and what we want, etc. | 20:48 |
| kwwii | god, I sound like troy | 20:48 |
| thorwil | or me | 20:49 |
| atwkevin | Haha. | 20:49 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Ha!! :P | 20:49 |
| atwkevin | My point in art design is to evoke emotion. | 20:49 |
| thorwil | atwkevin: and what would that emotion be for ubuntu? | 20:51 |
| atwkevin | i have a lot of almost-finished stuff in Deep Paint. | 20:51 |
| atwkevin | And if I were to select an emotion for it, I would select tranquility, yet deep down inside there is a sense of rigidity and prowess. | 20:52 |
| thorwil | atwkevin: do you have anything up, online? | 20:52 |
| atwkevin | Yeah. lots of almost-there type things. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m29/vashthstampede98/middleorb.jpg | 20:53 |
| kwwii | any good design should evoke emotion...knowing which emotions you want to evoke is something else | 20:53 |
| atwkevin | http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m29/vashthstampede98/gem1.jpg | 20:53 |
| _MMA_ | ***kwwii is now known as troy_s | 20:54 |
| atwkevin | I think this is my fave, cause it's simple yet dramatic. Hooray colored crystal. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m29/vashthstampede98/DSCN0782-1.jpg | 20:54 |
| thorwil | Deep Paint must be something than what i thought or I don't see the point in using it here | 20:55 |
| thorwil | +else | 20:56 |
| atwkevin | i dont understand what you are trying to say ^^; | 20:57 |
| thorwil | atwkevin: i'd say the change in contrast is dramatic. but the composition is boring to non-existant and i'm pretty sure i'mnot the only one wondering what the heck that is about or tries to be | 20:57 |
| _MMA_ | +1 | 20:58 |
| thorwil | atwkevin: i though Deep paint was for drawing textures right on 3d models. i don't see 3d here | 20:58 |
| atwkevin | not the old Deep Paint. | 20:58 |
| kwwii | I'd simply say that those works do not evoke any emotion in my other than loneliness and seclusion, perhaps a general feel of "spooky" | 20:58 |
| kwwii | and anyway, they have way too much contrast for a wallpaper | 20:58 |
| atwkevin | Okay. | 20:59 |
| atwkevin | well i guess art is in the eye of the beholder. | 21:00 |
| kwwii | definitely | 21:01 |
| thorwil | artnay: you are not on the wrong way if you want tranquility | 21:01 |
| kwwii | what I just said is my *opinion* not a fact in any way | 21:01 |
| * thorwil removes troyness from kwwii | 21:01 | |
| thorwil | artnay: though i think ubuntu has to be warm and welcoming, a sense of a lively community and all that | 21:02 |
| thorwil | decidedly not mysterious, except maybe for a little tribal touch | 21:03 |
| atwkevin | *yawns* | 21:08 |
| thorwil | spot on! good night! :) | 21:09 |
| _MMA_ | Night sir | 21:09 |
| atwkevin | heh. | 21:12 |
| atwkevin | ack. mount is being annoying again :\ | 21:18 |
| RyanPrior | Here's a concept: create a set of panoramic images for Intrepid+1 that can act as desktop backgrounds, then set a different subselection of the panorama for each virtual desktop. Then, while switching from one desktop to another, you see the panorama scroll one way or another. | 21:43 |
| RyanPrior | That could really wow people. | 21:45 |
| _MMA_ | Would be best for KDE as you cant do it with GNOME. (not without a patched Nautilus that relies on Compiz anyway) | 21:51 |
| BHSPitLappy | RyanPrior, not as impressive as a cube | 21:53 |
| RyanPrior | BHSPitLappy: If you did it as a cylinder instead of a cube, it would be just as impressive. (And I think the cylinder looks sweet!) | 21:54 |
| RyanPrior | _MMA_: Since we have some development time before Jaunty, we could certainly work with Nautilus to make it happen. | 21:54 |
| _MMA_ | RyanPrior: As the patch is not currently upstream, there's about a snowballs chance. | 21:55 |
| BHSPitLappy | let's do a Dodecahedral desktop | 21:55 |
| BHSPitLappy | "It's Dodecawesome!" | 21:55 |
| RyanPrior | _MMA_: you're saying that no development work done now will get into Jaunty? That's ridiculous. | 21:56 |
| _MMA_ | I'm saying that since the current patch is outside GNOME and relies on yet another project outside GNOME, I wouldn't hold my breath. | 21:57 |
| BHSPitLappy | it's more complicated when you're asking GNOME to add a whimsical feature for giggles | 21:57 |
| RyanPrior | I'm not planning on holding my breath. I asked about it in here hoping to find somebody who would help me take action. | 21:57 |
| _MMA_ | RyanPrior: We're art-nerds. We do nothing about the underlying tech. | 21:58 |
| RyanPrior | BHSPitLappy: pretty is a feature, and Ubuntu/Gnome need things to fuel excitement about their software in a way that "Nautilus now has tabs" doesn't. | 21:58 |
| _MMA_ | haha. | 21:58 |
| * _MMA_ loves the new tabs. ;) | 21:58 | |
| RyanPrior | _MMA_: I'm a tech nerd and know nothing about creating panoramic images. I figured I might find that bit in an art hangout. | 21:58 |
| RyanPrior | The new tabs are great, and we constantly need to have improvements like that, but stuff like this is as importnat. | 21:59 |
| _MMA_ | RyanPrior: Get the tech squared away and upstream and we'll be happy to help you prettify things. | 21:59 |
| BHSPitLappy | yeah | 22:00 |
| BHSPitLappy | well, tabs has not been the feature I've been wanting nautilus to have for years | 22:00 |
| BHSPitLappy | more like PANES! | 22:00 |
| * _MMA_ has wanted to win a 100 million $ lottery for 20 years now. | 22:01 | |
| kwwii | my life needs tabs | 22:11 |
| aantn | kwwii: :) | 22:12 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. The instant they showed up I used 'em. That and the compact list view that every other browser has had for years. | 22:12 |
| kwwii | with my new computer, I finally started using evolution...it is way behind kmail in functionality | 22:17 |
| kwwii | think I will try thunderbird | 22:17 |
| kwwii | evolution feels like a windows mail client from 10 years ago | 22:18 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I tried to switch to Epiphany/Evolution. Didn't have the features I wanted. I went back to Thunderbird/FF. | 22:18 |
| kwwii | I mean, evo doesn't even have a "next unread" function | 22:20 |
| kwwii | everybody praises it like it is the next big thing | 22:20 |
| kwwii | makes me so angry I need to listen to the new severed fifth | 22:21 |
| kwwii | lol | 22:21 |
| _MMA_ | \m/ | 22:21 |
| BHSPitLappy | with tabs in nautilus, can you drag a file onto a tab? | 22:21 |
| _MMA_ | Yes | 22:22 |
| BHSPitLappy | okay, then they're halfway there :P | 22:22 |
| BHSPitLappy | but seriously, paned filebrowsers win | 22:22 |
| kwwii | how is it that my ati card worked great with compiz in hardy and now no longer finds a driver? | 22:23 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: There was some mention of that on other lists. Hit up Ted I guess. Or Bryce. | 22:24 |
| kwwii | oh, they'll just tell me it doesn't work | 22:24 |
| kwwii | as a normal user it means blah, blah blah | 22:25 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 22:25 |
| _MMA_ | Thats why I buy Intel/nVidia. *Never* had an issue. | 22:25 |
| kwwii | my thinkpad has intel, it works great | 22:26 |
| kwwii | but apparently most nVidia cards have problems with compiz in intrepid as well | 22:26 |
| kwwii | I get the bugs on the human theme all day long | 22:26 |
| kwwii | some intel cards as well | 22:26 |
| _MMA_ | My 7950GT works as expected. | 22:27 |
| kwwii | I guess nobody reports bugs on that for ati because compiz doesn't work to begin with :p | 22:27 |
| _MMA_ | Well, as of a month ago anyway. | 22:27 |
| kwwii | hehe, don't update! | 22:28 |
| kwwii | I guess this will become my first ever windows computer | 22:28 |
| _MMA_ | oh noes! | 22:28 |
| kwwii | replacing my powerbook g4 | 22:28 |
| kwwii | that has become my mac dvd player | 22:28 |
| kwwii | a little more than 10 years working with linux and the problems are still the same | 22:29 |
| kwwii | sad, really | 22:29 |
| _MMA_ | :( | 22:29 |
| * _MMA_ heads off to a BBQ. Big steaks and thick cut salmon. Mmmm.. | 22:29 | |
| _MMA_ | bbl | 22:30 |
| kwwii | enjoy | 22:30 |
| kwwii | mesquite, yes! | 22:30 |
| kwwii | btw, did dst end in america already? | 22:31 |
| _MMA_ | dst? | 22:31 |
| * _MMA_ saw the message as he walked out the door. | 22:32 | |
| _MMA_ | digital TV? | 22:32 |
| _MMA_ | Over the air tv? | 22:32 |
| kwwii | day light savings time | 22:32 |
| _MMA_ | ha | 22:33 |
| kwwii | daylight savings time | 22:33 |
| * _MMA_ doesnt know. | 22:33 | |
| kwwii | :-) | 22:33 |
| * _MMA_ out. | 22:33 | |
| kwwii | lucazade1 ! nice to see you again! | 22:38 |
| kwwii | I think I will greet everyone in the channel like that from now on | 22:38 |
| Flannel | kwwii: No, November 2 | 22:38 |
| kwwii | just to piss everyone off | 22:39 |
| kwwii | Flannel: killer, thanks! | 22:39 |
| kwwii | in europe is ended yesterday | 22:39 |
| kwwii | s/is/it | 22:39 |
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