| PovAddict | can apport be used independently of launchpad and Ubuntu packages? | 00:23 |
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| PovAddict | for example, is there any way for an app I compile from source to configure apport so that it handles its crashes (even though it's not from an APT package), and reports them directly to the developers? | 00:23 |
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| PovAddict | looks like it's not possible yet... | 00:50 |
| cjwatson | PovAddict: ask pitti when he's around (European working hours) | 00:51 |
| PovAddict | I actually found a wiki page about it | 00:51 |
| PovAddict | about how it's "in plans" :) | 00:51 |
| PovAddict | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApportForUpstreams | 00:51 |
| PovAddict | btw why is the launchpad blueprint part of 'ubuntu' instead of 'apport'? | 00:54 |
| jibel | doko: ping | 01:05 |
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| NCommander | cjwatson, you around? | 05:08 |
| ytoox | how can I install TAO on ubuntu? | 05:10 |
| ytoox | I mean, tao-opengl | 05:10 |
| ytoox | hello? | 05:12 |
| NCommander | ytoox, this isn't a support channel, please try #ubuntu | 05:14 |
| ytoox | I did, but no one pays attention | 05:14 |
| gQuigs | anyone looking at this: 285323 | 05:29 |
| gQuigs | bug 285323 | 05:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 285323 in gnome-power-manager "Losing keyboard and mouse control when changing screen brightness with fn + arrow under intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285323 | 05:29 |
| NCommander | Does anyone know a good lightweight repo management tool I can run as non-root? | 05:43 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Dunno if it qualifies, but did you look at falcon? | 05:44 |
| NCommander | ScottK, never heard of it | 05:44 |
| * NCommander wants to have an easy repo tool he can dump into his homefolder on zinc | 05:44 | |
| ScottK | OK. Try that. It's packaged. Dunno if it fits or not. | 05:45 |
| NCommander | I don't have root, so packages are kinda useless ;-) | 05:45 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 05:45 |
| NCommander | yeah | 05:46 |
| NCommander | I want a place where I can easily upload built PowerPC (and other ports) kernels | 05:46 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I think I can use reprepro, although I had to install libdb4.6 into a folder in my home folder | 05:59 |
| ScottK | Good luck and good night. | 06:00 |
| NCommander | thanks ScottK | 06:01 |
| pitti | PovAddict: apport has an abstract "CrashDatabase", so one could implement this to do whatever with the reports; /etc/apport/crashdb.conf does the switching | 09:05 |
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| jussi01 | anyone around? if so, can anyone point me to information about why we change libopenal in intrepid? ie. why it had an ABI change? | 10:17 |
| Hobbsee | jussi01: when did it have an api change? | 10:19 |
| wgrant | It broke ABI, not API, I believe. | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh | 10:19 |
| jussi01 | Hobbsee: not sure exactly, but its different intrepid | 10:19 |
| wgrant | Why do you ask? | 10:20 |
| wgrant | It's not abnormal to have ABI breaks. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | In this case we moved to a different OpenAL implementation. | 10:20 |
| jussi01 | wgrant: I guess Im looking for a bit more information specifically on what changed | 10:21 |
| jussi01 | and why it change - what was broken in the old one that needed fixing | 10:21 |
| wgrant | Bug #194919 | 10:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 194919 in openal "libopenal needs replacement" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194919 | 10:22 |
| wgrant | ABIs break. That's life. | 10:22 |
| jussi01 | yeah | 10:23 |
| persia | jussi01, Because the old one was creative's and not being updated very much, and buggy, and trending towards greater hardware dependence. We selected a fork that is hardware-independent, and much more active. | 10:23 |
| jussi01 | persia: ok, thanks a lot. | 10:23 |
| persia | jussi01, Umm. Actually, let me get you a real reason, as that's a bit off-the-cuff | 10:24 |
| persia | Debian bug #494909 is probably a good reference | 10:25 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 494909 in ftp.debian.org "RM: openal -- RoRA; superceded by openal-soft" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/494909 | 10:25 |
| persia | Debian bug #473128 has more discussion | 10:26 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 473128 in wnpp "ITP: openal-soft -- linux-port of the windows implementation of the" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/473128 | 10:26 |
| persia | jussi01, For even more detail, read the debian-devel-games ML archives. | 10:27 |
| jussi01 | persia: thank you very much, I appreciate your help. :) | 10:28 |
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| juliux | mdz: displaybrighness is still not working on my x41 | 14:24 |
| askand | Hi! Suppose I would try fixing bug 3235, that would mean adding some files to the defaultinstallation of Ubuntu, how would I do that? How does it work? Would I make a package installing those files? | 14:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 3235 in nautilus "Install Template Documents" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3235 | 14:33 |
| NCommander | wow, such an old bug | 14:45 |
| smarter | ArneGoetje: ping | 14:55 |
| smarter | ArneGoetje: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/scim-bridge/0.4.14-2ubuntu4 << I don't understand this change, the new patch checks if scim-helper is running, but there is no binary named scim-helper on Ubuntu... | 14:56 |
| smarter | so, the bug fixed by 0.4.14-2ubuntu1 is back | 14:56 |
| smarter | and Kubuntu 8.10 has the 10/20 seconds at startup of each app | 14:56 |
| smarter | did you test your change? | 14:56 |
| smarter | ArneGoetje: just saw that the patch was completely disabled in fact, so my comment on scim-helper is not really relevant | 15:05 |
| smarter | But we should revert to the state in -2ubuntu2 | 15:05 |
| smarter | Riddell: ^ | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | smarter: do you have the scim package installed? | 15:13 |
| smarter | yes | 15:13 |
| smarter | and skim | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | smarter: I commented on the scim-helper thing when reviewing that change, but as you say the patch is disabled so it's not relevant | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | Arne tells me skim should not be installed | 15:13 |
| smarter | I tried removing skim but it doesn't work better | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | as the bug in the changelog indicates, the state in -2ubuntu2 left GTK broken. We can't just revert to it | 15:14 |
| smarter | wasn't -2ubuntu3 which broke GTK? | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | I tested Arne's change in GTK when sponsoring it, but was unable to check KDE | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | possible, I suppose | 15:15 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: FYI just testing the desktop install CD for PS3 - not working :( - uses usplash of course which is one problem, second problem trying install_nosplash option is it can't mount /dev/loop0 or something - investigating | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | munckfish: oh, will need to turn usplash off in cdimage too | 15:15 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: ok | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | ah, but that's no good if install_nosplash is broken ... | 15:16 |
| smarter | cjwatson: according to the date of the bug, I'm pretty sure it's -2ubuntu3 which broke GTK | 15:16 |
| smarter | so Riddell's change should be reverted | 15:16 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: yep, I'm checking that out now will get logs and other info | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | smarter: but he made that change for a reason, right? | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | I'd like to know what that reason was! | 15:16 |
| smarter | me too :P | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | I don't approve of reverting changes without finding out what they were for | 15:17 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: but good news is installed from alt installer on Friday night, the installer has a few scary moments but once installed everything is working lovely :D | 15:18 |
| NCommander | hey munckfish | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | smarter: so why would -2ubuntu2 help? all that did was just check whether scim is installed, and the dependency in -2ubuntu4 satisfies that without that patch applied | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | smarter: in other words, -2ubuntu2 and -2ubuntu4 ought to be equivalent for KDE, aside from the focus fix | 15:19 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: the one scary in the alt is it hangs for about 20/25 mins at 6% in "Selecting and installing software" section, watching the syslog it seems it's reading packages from the disk for about 10 mins with no log, then after a while it says "Extracting templates: 1%, ... 2% ... etc" | 15:20 |
| munckfish | NCommander: hi! | 15:20 |
| NCommander | munckfish, see my email to ubuntu-cell? | 15:21 |
| munckfish | oh not yet | 15:21 |
| munckfish | haven't got my email on | 15:21 |
| munckfish | (checking) | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | munckfish: anything that isn't a showstopper, I'm ignoring right now | 15:21 |
| smarter | cjwatson: hmm, you're right, sorry, the bug is there in -2ubuntu2 too, but not on ubuntu3 on KDE | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | right, and ubuntu3 broke GTK. | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | so why isn't scim running? | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | smarter: are you using a locale where you would expect to use an input method? | 15:22 |
| smarter | nop, fr_FR | 15:23 |
| munckfish | cjwatson: sure of course wondered if you would be surprised by it thats all | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | munckfish: vaguely heard of it, not worried at the moment though | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | smarter: ok, so I tested the same kind of scenario in GTK and it was fine | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | i.e. scim not running | 15:23 |
| smarter | if I launch scim-panel-kde or skim, it works | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | so perhaps we should move the check in that patch to the Qt4 agent | 15:24 |
| smarter | (no delay on startup) | 15:24 |
| smarter | that looks like a good idea | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | or I suppose alternatively we could actually fix the check (scim-helper-launcher IIRC) | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | scim-helper-manager | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | smarter: if you launch scim-panel-kde, is there a scim-helper-manager process running? | 15:30 |
| smarter | yes | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | smarter: would you be able to build a test package for me from source to try it out, or would you need me to give you test .debs? | 15:33 |
| smarter | I know how to build a package ^^' | 15:33 |
| smarter | (I'm a MOTU :P) | 15:33 |
| smarter | and I'm on amd64 so your .debs would not help me I guess | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | that would depend where I built it :-) | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | smarter: in that case, try just applying http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/scim-bridge.debdiff to -2ubuntu4 | 15:35 |
| smarter | ok | 15:35 |
| smarter | hmm strange, it FTBFS | 15:37 |
| smarter | http://pastebin.com/m29828974 | 15:38 |
| smarter | 00A0C0T0I0O0N0 0t0r0i0e0s0 0w0i0t0h0 0p0b0u0i0l0d0e0r00 | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | smarter: built fine for me | 15:58 |
| smarter | built fine on a pbuilder too, strange | 15:59 |
| smarter | your patch seems to work :) | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | good, just testing with GTK now | 15:59 |
| smarter | and no scim-{panel,helper,...} instance running | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | have you tried in both fr_FR and in some locale that uses scim-bridge (e.g. zh_CN.UTF-8)? | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | it would be helpful if you could - you just need to check whether you can type letters into an editor or something and have the input method widget appear | 16:00 |
| smarter | 00A0C0T0I0O0N0 0t0r0i0e0s0 0t0o0 0i0n0s0t0a0l0l0 0o0t0h0e0r0 0l0o0c0a0l0e0 0u0s0i0n0g0 0q0t0-0l0a0n0g0u0a0g0e0-0s0e0l0e0c0t0o0r00 | 16:01 |
| smarter | *another | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | your IRC client is screwed | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | 16:01 <smarter> P0AP0AP0CP0TP0IP0OP0NP0 P0tP0rP0iP0eP0sP0 P0tP0oP0 P0iP0nP0sP0tP0aP0lP0lP0 P0oP0tP0hP0eP0rP0 P0lP0oP0cP0aP0lP0eP0 P0uP0sP0iP0nP0gP0 | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | P0qP0tP0-P0lP0aP0nP0gP0uP0aP0gP0eP0-P0sP0eP0lP0eP0cP0tP0oP0rP0AP0 | 16:03 |
| smarter | Oo | 16:03 |
| persia | smarter, Is that UTF-8? | 16:03 |
| smarter | no idea | 16:03 |
| smarter | I didn't see that | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | it's not UTF-8 | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | each character is surrounded by some control character junk | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | it's only when you use /me | 16:03 |
| smarter | über strange | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | ok, that works for me except that it should be pidof scim-helper-manager >/dev/null | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | smarter: no garbage here | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | we learn: quassel ownes them all | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | you're both using quassel and I guess it must be buggy then | 16:08 |
| smarter | probably | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | even smarter's CTCP VERSION output is broken, but apachelogger's isn't | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | so perhaps smarter has some kind of "use my proprietary format" option checked | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | smarter: do you run the core on your local machine? | 16:08 |
| smarter | yes | 16:09 |
| smarter | maybe I should restart it | 16:09 |
| smarter | since there was an update today | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | yes! | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | that could have done it | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | we screwed up a QByteArray ;-) | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | ah yes | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | scim-bridge uploaded | 16:10 |
| * smarter test | 16:10 | |
| smarter | ^ better? | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | yes | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 16:11 |
| smarter | cool | 16:11 |
| smarter | and thank you cjwatson for your patch :) | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | smarter: did you have any luck testing in Chinese? | 16:11 |
| smarter | I'm downloading it | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | I'd feel better if we knew that it worked in KDE with scim switched on too - the fourth case out of four | 16:11 |
| smarter | oh, it's installed | 16:12 |
| smarter | what's the locale name of chinese? | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | zh_CN.UTF-8 | 16:12 |
| mitsuhiko | is there a chance that wbxml2 is upgraded to 0.9.2-5 before release? | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | mitsuhiko: what for? | 16:12 |
| mitsuhiko | the current version seems to have a bug. my nokia phone can't sync with opensync | 16:13 |
| mitsuhiko | the #opensync guys tell me to upgrade the wbxml2 lib | 16:13 |
| smarter | cjwatson: LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=zh_CN KDE_LANG=zh_CN kate, kate pops up, but there is no scim running | 16:13 |
| mitsuhiko | http://libsyncml.opensync.org/ticket/153 <- related bug | 16:13 |
| smarter | (and it's in chinese, afaik) | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | smarter: you need to restart the whole session in Chinese for it to work properly | 16:14 |
| smarter | hmm okay | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | isn't there a language selection thing in kdm? | 16:14 |
| smarter | nop | 16:14 |
| smarter | I'll just change the language using qt-language-selector | 16:14 |
| persia | mitsuhiko, simultaneous traffic in -motu points at Debian bug #487217 for wbxml2 (and #ubuntu-motu is probably the right forum for this discussion) | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 487217 in libwbxml2-0 "libwbxml2-0: Several SyncML flaws" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/487217 | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | mitsuhiko: needs an Ubuntu developer to assess bug 267397 / bug 287838 and decide if it's a safe update at this point | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267397 in wbxml2 "Sync package with debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267397 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287838 in wbxml2 "msynctool of nokia 6120 crashes with 0x43 permission denied libwbxml" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287838 | 16:15 |
| smarter | cjwatson: and should I let skim installed or not? | 16:15 |
| * mitsuhiko tries the debian package for a moment to see if that fixes the problem | 16:16 | |
| cjwatson | smarter: I don't believe Kubuntu installs it by default any more now | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | mitsuhiko: we are five days before release, and any update needs an Ubuntu developer standing behind it and ready to fix any regressions at short notice | 16:17 |
| smarter | but it's probably installed by the language-selector thing | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | mitsuhiko: I would suggest that this might be better as a post-release update ... | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | smarter: not as far as I know | 16:17 |
| smarter | okay, I'll try without | 16:17 |
| mitsuhiko | cjwatson: can it become any more broken? :D | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | in fact, I'm pretty certain it isn't | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | mitsuhiko: it could break other phones | 16:17 |
| mitsuhiko | i can't sync a single nokia phone right now | 16:18 |
| mitsuhiko | at least none with s60 on it | 16:18 |
| mitsuhiko | is there someone in the ubuntu team that uses opensync i can talk with? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | I really can't say whether it's a good idea. Find a developer to investigate it. As persia said, #ubuntu-motu is a better forum | 16:18 |
| mitsuhiko | okay | 16:18 |
| mitsuhiko | thanks | 16:18 |
| smarter | my system is still in french(probably needs a reboot or something else in the config) but I have scim running in the panel | 16:20 |
| smarter | bbl | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | smarter: and does typing in an editor go through the input method? | 16:25 |
| ramvi | Hi, I'm unsure how to ask this question and where to ask it, but I hope maybe you could point me in the right direction: I have a svn server with a web page. How do I do that code accessable as the web page. So that I can make a changes and view it | 17:08 |
| smarter | cjwatson: nop | 17:09 |
| smarter | 卡龌 | 17:10 |
| persia | smarter, That looks right. | 17:11 |
| smarter | oh, it works if I choose some random stuff in the left-click menu of scim and then right click on a field --> IM --> scim-bridge | 17:11 |
| smarter | at least with pure Qt apps | 17:11 |
| * smarter tests with Kate | 17:11 | |
| smarter | hmm, it doesn't work but IIRC I need to define an env variable to make it work | 17:12 |
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| smarter | cjwatson: it only works on apps which let me change the input method(Kopete and Quassel, but not Kate or Firefox) | 17:23 |
| smarter | but that's probably another problem | 17:23 |
| cjwatson | smarter: ok, this sounds like scim configuration oddness rather than anything wrong with scim-bridge, so I'm content | 17:39 |
| smarter | I am too :) | 17:40 |
| PovAddict | pitti: thx for the info, I'll have a look at that file | 17:47 |
| cjwatson | smarter: thanks for the testing | 17:50 |
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| zyga | hello, is there anyone interested in usb-creator && vmware && fixing small issue I have identified and resolved? | 18:56 |
| zyga | I have found that attachning a USB disk enclosure does not allow you to make it bootable for some reason | 18:57 |
| zyga | after digging for a second I found out that the issue is caused by HAL not thinking this device is removable, usb-creator does not consider non-removable devices | 18:57 |
| zyga | I commented out that single dependency (on removability) and it appears to work fine | 18:58 |
| persia | zyga, Surely that's a HAL bug though, rather than a usb-creator bug. | 19:03 |
| zyga | persia: I'm going to report it for usb-creator first but I think you may be right | 19:05 |
| zyga | still I'm not sure that usb-creator is doing the right thing to require removable devices | 19:05 |
| persia | zyga, Hmm. Well, when would you want to use it for a non-removable device? | 19:06 |
| persia | I can maybe see the use case for mmc cards (where the storage isn't removable, because the entire interface is removable), but that's somewhat of a corner case. | 19:06 |
| PovAddict | on Windows, if I do "safe remove" on one of the drive letters from my memory card reader, it "unmounts" the card reader, not the card... can't use reader again until I reboot | 19:08 |
| PovAddict | would my card reader be considered a removable device by Linux's HAL? (can I check?) | 19:09 |
| zyga | PovAddict: yes you can check | 19:10 |
| zyga | w8 | 19:10 |
| zyga | PovAddict: I think you can use hal-device to see what hal thinks about your card reader | 19:11 |
| PovAddict | it thinks it's four devices | 19:11 |
| ScottK | lamont: Any chance you could give primero a kick and get it going again? | 19:11 |
| zyga | I'm going to leave and reboot to my usb disk now | 19:12 |
| zyga | if anyone is interested the bug is id: lp #289599 | 19:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289599 in usb-creator "usb-creator does not work with usb/ide disk enclosure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289599 | 19:13 |
| PovAddict | linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3) (int) | 19:13 |
| PovAddict | storage.removable = true (bool) | 19:13 |
| demontager | why alsamixer shows only one channel "Master"? Where is other tunes? | 19:46 |
| elliotjhug | hi, this seems like the sensible place to ask this. Does anyone know what the source package is for the Main Menu in ubuntu (the default apps, places, system one)? | 20:34 |
| persia | elliotjhug, gnome-menus | 20:51 |
| elliotjhug | persia: Thanks | 20:52 |
| NCommander | ScottK, you around? | 21:04 |
| ScottK | For about 120 seconds | 21:08 |
| ScottK | NCommander: ^^ | 21:08 |
| Laney | Tense! Will he make it back in time? | 21:09 |
| ScottK | Nope. See you all later. | 21:10 |
| PovAddict | lol | 21:10 |
| * Laney waves | 21:10 | |
| liw | is it still possible to get a program onto Rosetta (LP's translation thing) for intrepid? | 21:29 |
| persia | liw, From traffic in -release, I think the final langpack builds just started, which would mean no. | 21:29 |
| liw | dang. ok, serves me right for being late. | 21:30 |
| persia | You might be able to get it into the langpack updates, but I don't have any idea how that works. | 21:30 |
| PovAddict | the name 'Rosetta' is too overloaded :/ | 21:32 |
| Lycus | Is there a way to show the guest account available from user switching on the Login window list? | 21:34 |
| CarlFK | is there an easy way to get python with debug symbols? my current plan is apt-get source python... build... | 21:48 |
| PovAddict | python-dbg? | 21:49 |
| NCommander | CarlFK, python2.5-dbg - Debug Build of the Python Interpreter (version 2.5) | 21:49 |
| RainCT | CarlFK: uhm.. python-dbg? | 21:49 |
| NCommander | lol | 21:49 |
| CarlFK | bam bam bam! | 21:49 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 21:49 |
| * NCommander loves when answers come in stereo | 21:49 | |
| CarlFK | how many things have a -dbg version? | 21:50 |
| PovAddict | apt-cache search -dbg | wc -l | 21:50 |
| NCommander | CarlFK, most libraries do | 21:50 |
| PovAddict | almost six hundred packages | 21:50 |
| NCommander | 738 | 21:50 |
| PovAddict | 589 here :) | 21:51 |
| * PovAddict has hardy | 21:51 | |
| * NCommander runs intrepid | 21:51 | |
| RainCT | error here xD | 21:51 |
| NCommander | ahaha | 21:51 |
| RainCT | E: Command line option 'd' [from -dbg] is not known. | 21:51 |
| persia | And when there aren't -dbg packages, there are often -dbgsym packages available from ddebs.ubuntu.com | 21:51 |
| CarlFK | hmm.. guess the count isn't what I was wondering ... just knowing about -dbg is all I need | 21:51 |
| RainCT | ok, now 735 | 21:51 |
| RainCT | (with \\-dbg) | 21:51 |
| RainCT | NCommander: did you use \\- too or am I weird? :) | 21:54 |
| NCommander | YOur just weird | 21:54 |
| RainCT | ah k, that explains it all | 21:55 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/86899/ python import fg; g = fg.Grabber(); help(g) segfault. is that a python problem, or fg.Grabber() ? | 21:57 |
| CarlFK | persia: how do I use a .ddeb? | 21:57 |
| CarlFK | fg came from http://antonym.org/libfg | 21:58 |
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| Rioting_pacifist | i have a pretty bad problem with lsusb #kubuntu and #linux wernt much help | 22:11 |
| Rioting_pacifist | basically lsusb, lsmod, modprobe -r, rmmod all freeze up the terminal in which i use them (i can still type in it but nothing has any effect), i think its a pretty bad kernel bug and would like to try and find the cause to report it, any ideas? | 22:13 |
| Rioting_pacifist | it was caused by loading up a beta webcam driver but i dont think freezing up the lsusb can be blamed on the driver | 22:14 |
| johanbr | Sure it can. Buggy kernel modules can wreak all sorts of havoc. | 22:15 |
| jdong | sounds like the module oopsed the kernel | 22:16 |
| jdong | that's typically common of buggy kernel modules. | 22:16 |
| jdong | look in dmesg for a stacktrace | 22:16 |
| Rioting_pacifist | got the stacktrace, makes no sense to me should i pastebin it then pass it on to the webcam driver developers? | 22:18 |
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