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crimsunasac: removing NM resolves the issue; e.g., using wicd instead04:25
crimsunasac: it's completely possible that the symptom is triggered by faulty wifi drivers and that the NM bit is just a red herring04:25
crimsunasac: unfortunately, I haven't the resources to chase it further tonight04:26
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plunHello,  fta  around  ?12:12
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ftaplun, ?18:03
plunfta: yup awake ?  ;)18:09
plunfta: its about this one  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/cairo/cairo_1.8.0-0ubuntu1/changelog    enabled or not  ?   dizzy screen  ;)18:12
ftaplun, enabled18:12
ftaplun, what is fuzzy ?18:12
plunfta:  prefs > appearance> fonts , do it also youself18:13
plun 18:13
ftaplun, if it's ff3.1, or any xul 1.9.1 app, it's expected18:14
plunNo its FF3.03 and other users within Sweden also asked about it.18:15
plunClick on "Details" and choose something and close, all is disabled then.18:15
ftafor me, it's all fine.18:17
plunNo it is "dizzy" and I was not out yesterday evening  :)18:17
ftawell, i don't see that here. and it's not cairo, the pref thing is about fontconfig18:19
ftaimho, fontconfig default setup is a mess in intrepid18:20
plunhttp://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/4849/disable_c16PQ2.jpg18:20
plunAlso this if you choose something from "Details".... everything is "disabled"18:20
ftado you mean it was different with 1.7.6 ?18:22
ftacairo 1.7.618:22
plunNo it seems to come and go ......   something must trigger this from Gnome-settings and Gnomes packages comes within a "flood".  2.24.1 challenge ????18:24
plunhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670   Testing with "mlinds" commands again ;)18:32
plunNative, Always, No bitmapped fonts    >    Intrepids setting was "Automatic"  ???18:35
plunsudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config18:35
plunsudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig18:35
plunfta: I can see a difference after running fontconfig and enabled full hinting within details  ;)18:43
ftaanyone on amd64 willing to try my last songbird build ?18:49
ftait seems i can't move the main window, while i can on i38618:49
fabrice_spHi fta: I'm on amd64, with Intrepid18:53
ftafabrice_sp, are you using my ppa ?18:53
fabrice_spno yet :-)18:53
plunfta: found a triaged bug....18:53
plunhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/15352118:53
plunWhat gnome package can it be which communicates with fontconfig ?18:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 153521 in fontconfig "fonts are blurred with subpixel rendering" [High,Triaged]18:53
ftafabrice_sp, please have a look there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/18:54
plunfta... is this fixed ?18:58
plunAs of this writing, cairo is unable to read the settings from fontconfig, so let’s add the equivalent X resources for cairo applications to obey.18:58
plunhttp://johan.kiviniemi.name/blag/2008/01/12/ubuntu-hardy-fonts/18:58
ftacairo is able to read some parameters from fontconfig. but upstream is working on that lcd thing in the current dev cycle (ie, for the upcoming stable 1.10.*)19:00
ftaas i said, fontconfig is messy as it provides a lot of tweaks trying to bring a default look acceptable to everyone, but there's no way to please everyone so those tweaks are getting in the way19:01
fta53-monospace-lcd-filter.conf is one of those tweaks19:02
fabrice_spfta: no sound, and just froze19:02
fabrice_spRhythmbox is playing fine the same mp3 file19:02
ftafabrice_sp, ? is pulseaudio running ?19:02
ftafabrice_sp, my question here was, are you able to move the main window?19:03
fabrice_spyes, when media detection ended19:03
fabrice_sp(and yes, pulseaudio is running)19:06
ftai don't have any problem to play sound with songbird (there's a bug with the control that upstream is currently working on but double clicking on a file in the library should work)19:07
ftacontrols (the play/pause/<</>> buttons)19:07
fabrice_spfta: I'll try that way19:08
ftait should never freeze19:08
fabrice_spthe same: no sound, and when switching to another song => freeze. Maybe something wrong in my setup19:11
ftafabrice_sp, try to run it with GST_DEBUG=219:12
ftait's verbose19:12
fabrice_spok19:12
plunfta: Ok and thanks....playing around with Johans conf settings just for fun.19:14
plunOne more thing....  Lightning works with TB3   ;)   (tested with nightly)19:14
ftaplun, good19:14
fabrice_spby the way, I can move the window, but I can't put part out of the principal screen19:14
fabrice_spand I'm getting (songbird-bin:7827): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_query: assertion `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element)' failed19:15
fabrice_spbefore freezing19:15
ftaGST_DEBUG=2 /usr/lib/songbird/songbird-bin > /tmp/log 2>&119:15
ftathen look for pulse in /tmp/log19:16
fabrice_spno pulse at all :-(19:23
fabrice_sphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/62965/19:23
plunfta: just a report after a Gnome restart,  it is better on my screen with Johans conf files.19:34
plunBut there must probably be room for "howtos" also for Intrepid  ;)19:34
plunThanks for clarifying this !   ;)     See you !19:34
nxvlhi20:12
nxvlsomeone around that can help me find the "firefox is already running" dialog?20:12
ftaasac, mozilla Bug 46108220:41
ubottuMozilla bug 461082 in Build Config "Deliver NSS 3.12.2 and NSPR 4.7.2 to Mozilla" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46108220:41
fta[reed], what is sisyphus?20:44
ftamozilla Bug 46113520:45
ubottuMozilla bug 461135 in Video/Audio "Audio does not play in <audio> or <video> elements with PulseAudio" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46113520:45
crimsunasac: bug 274995 appears to affect both wired and wireless interfaces.  There does not seem to be any correlation between certain drivers.  However, downing the affected network interfaces /prior/ to saving sound state resolves the hangs.  Obviously that workaround is unacceptable.21:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274995 in network-manager "storing mixer element values during shutdown hangs nondeterministically if wireless interfaces are still up" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27499521:26
ftado we have something like that in ubuntu? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/10/msg00018.html21:29
asaccrimsun: so is this pulseaudio doing networking and not failing properly?21:33
asaccrimsun: also there are other claims in the bug that see this without NM21:33
nxvlis there any way to make firefox crash?21:46
nxvlfor QA21:46
gnomefreakwhat it doesnt crash enough for you?21:48
gnomefreakinstall libflashsupport to make it crash21:48
gnomefreakJazzva: are you around this week sometime?21:49
nxvlheh21:49
nxvlgnomefreak: yeah, but i need to test a crash message, so i don't want to wait until it crashes21:50
gnomefreakah21:50
gnomefreaki can honestly say i havent tried to make it crash exept with 2.0 beta21:51
fta3.1 didn't crash for me in weeks21:51
gnomefreakit works here as well21:51
* gnomefreak wondes if plastic wrap will work :(21:52
gnomefreaknot to crash anything21:53
gnomefreakfta: did tb3.0b1 land yet?21:54
ftanope21:54
* gnomefreak might work on tb extensions this week once i get firegpg upgraded21:54
gnomefreakwe really need a working way to upgrade extensions i did it per wiki but i think its a configure failure not an upgrade one21:55
crimsunasac: don't believe so, but we can ask to eliminate PA from the picture during the tests.21:59
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Jazzvagnomefreak, most of the time... depends on school. tomorrow I will be off for the whole day.22:02
JazzvaI'm here now...22:02
gnomefreakif i unblacklisted something would it have changed back to being blacklisted?22:02
gnomefreakJazzva: i have a meetin in morning but sshould be back ~lunchtime. once i find sometihing to wrap wrist in i will get error for you22:03
JazzvaOk... tomorrow? I won't be here... well, not until ~midnight, UTC+122:04
gnomefreakok ill see if i can get error now22:04
gnomefreaki lost sound here about 2 weeks ago :(22:06
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gnomefreakJazzva: its gonna be a while i lost upstream source :(22:13
gnomefreakwe should really find a way to package tarball from svn/cvs22:15
gnomefreakmaybe not22:21
gnomefreakJazzva: do we have any "correct" way to tar up source from svn?22:24
Jazzvagnomefreak, tar it up and then gzip it.22:33
JazzvaI think you have to pass -9 parameter to gzip, in order to use best compression.22:33
gnomefreakwhy tar it up than gzip it? isnt that the same?22:34
Jazzvatar will produce an archive file, which will be compressed by gzip22:35
Jazzvagnomefreak, archive file is not the same as compressed file...22:37
gnomefreakah22:37
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* gnomefreak too tried i jhust fucked up my .ubuntu branch22:59
gnomefreakjust22:59
gnomefreaktired22:59
gnomefreakgzip -9 *.tar.gz not working23:01
ftagzip -9 *.tar23:03
gnomefreakgnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ ls23:10
gnomefreakfiregpg  firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz23:10
gnomefreakgnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ gzip -9 *.tar23:10
gnomefreakgzip: *.tar: No such file or directory23:10
gnomefreakhmmmm23:10
gnomefreaksomething wrong with the tarball23:11
ftawell, you already have a file named tar.gz23:11
gnomefreak?23:11
ftais it really a tar.gz ?23:12
ftafile *gz23:12
gnomefreaknot sure i used nautilus to make it that time23:13
gnomefreakits fixable23:13
ftafile *gz23:13
gnomefreakshould i just use the -cfzv?23:14
ftayes, tar -zcvf --exclude .svn firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg23:15
gnomefreakctzf even23:16
ftano23:16
gnomefreakerrors23:16
gnomefreakseems --exclide doent work23:17
gnomefreaktar: Error exit delayed from previous errors23:17
gnomefreakgnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ ls23:17
gnomefreak--exclude  firegpg23:17
ftatar -zcvf --exclude=.svn firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg23:17
ftaoops, sorry23:17
ftatar --exclude=.svn -zcvf firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg23:18
gnomefreakahy that one worked :)23:19
gnomefreakthanks23:19
gnomefreakok running build ill check it later im fairly sure its gonna fail but we will see23:28
gnomefreakthat was fast23:29
gnomefreakJazzva: fta if either of you have a sec http://pastebin.mozilla.org/562102 all are .svn removed from tarball should i remove from .ubuntu? hold that thought im gonna try that now23:31
gnomefreaknope still fails23:33
Jazzvagnomefreak, you should. the best way is to remove it in .upstream branch, then create .ubuntu branch from that one...23:34
Jazzvabut I guess you can just remove it in .ubuntu branch, in case you already applied your modifications.23:34
gnomefreakremoving .ubuntu/.svn didnt work i guess i have to remove it from all files23:35
gnomefreakor i grab upstream and remove than push again and use it23:35
gnomefreakthere has to be an easy way to remove all .svn files23:36
gnomefreakits not just in toplevle dir23:36
gnomefreaklevel23:36
gnomefreaki cant use *.svn or all dirs will be removed23:37
ftahm, good, controls are fixed in the latest songbird23:42
ftai like the new UI23:42
ftayet, it's not integrated at all23:42

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