[00:34] hey, i have just installed mythbuntu 8.04, and i am having trouble configruing the mythtv backend [00:35] i am unable to get it to connect to the database with the password i entered during setup, the default 'mythtv', and with a blank [00:35] do you have any suggestions? [00:40] hey anyone seen greybeard on here in a while? [00:42] guess not :P, anyway, anyone here ever mount a drive over the network to store your mythtv files? [00:44] tominglis: Check in mythbuntu-control-centre you can setup the database credentials there. [00:50] yeah, but the problem i am having is when i am in the first setup screen [00:50] and need to enter my mysql password [00:51] i have tried the password generated during setup, the password i entered for mythtv root, and 'mythtv' and leaving it blank [00:51] sorry for root not mythtv root [00:51] The password is stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [00:51] yeah, i've tried that one [00:54] if i log in to mysql as root, maybe i can change it manually? is there any reason why the generated password would not work? [00:54] i've tried it with the capitals in place and all lower case [00:55] I'm having a problem with sound on mythbuntu 8.0.4 and SPDIF output to my surround receiver I can play a ac3 file but mp3 files appear to play but I get no sound [00:55] some config info > http://pastebin.com/m275ede80 [00:57] Coded1 i just been through something similar, i had an mplayer line like the following: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 [00:57] card 1 device 3 [00:57] restarting [00:57] and then also unmuting something something (although mine was over hdmi) [00:58] squish102: did that resolve the problem? [00:59] yes, i could play wav files and mpeg2, didnt try mp3 [00:59] but after getting mythtv to play recordings with sound over hdmi, i switched machine off [00:59] took a couple hours to get that working [01:00] not too much on the net about this [01:01] mostly unanswered questions, that line you gave me gave me this out put > http://pastebin.com/m43bcb2db [01:01] but still no sound [01:02] i think the reciever is expecting 48kHz and is only getting 44100 [01:02] Hz [01:03] hey so anyone else do that? mount a hard drive over the network to store your files? its working great only problem is that the mount is starts before the network oes some times, which causes it to take 5 minutes or so just hanging there [01:04] so i looked at my mysql server, and it doesn't have a mythconverg database or a mythtv user [01:05] is there a file i can reinstall to try and get these entries put in there? [01:05] package, sorry [01:10] i am unable to get my backend to talk to the database, after installing mythbuntu 8.04.1 (+ updates et al), presumably because there is no mythconverg database or mythtv user in the mysql daatabase [01:11] does anyone know how to correct this? [01:12] i will try reinstalling mythtv-database through synaptic? [01:16] Coded1 i would have tried [01:17] card 0 device 3 [01:17] mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.3 [01:18] squish102: just tried that but same outcome [01:49] * trontos tries for a second time to get lirc_imon-pad working... [01:33] hey so anyone else do that? mount a hard drive over the network to store your files? its working great only problem is that the mount is starts before the network oes some times, which causes it to take 5 minutes or so just hanging there [03:30] The remote sensor that came with my pinnacle pctv pci card is really just a sensor that plugs into my RS232 port. I chose the pinnacle PCTV Pro from the list at setup but it doesnt seem to be working. is there a generic one i can try? [03:52] hey so anyone else do that? mount a hard drive over the network to store your files? its working great only problem is that the mount is starts before the network oes some times, which causes it to take 5 minutes or so just hanging there [05:58] ajhtiredwolf, put noauto in your fstab lines then add the mount command to /etc/rc.local [05:58] i do the same thing it works well [06:04] oobe, if i put it rc.local why add it to fstab aws well/ [06:08] well i meant mount /path/to/mount/point [06:08] but you could do mount -t nfs host:/path/to/mount/point /path/to/mount/point [06:09] either way will work [06:09] hi all [06:09] its simpler to change fstab to noauto [06:11] box:/home/oobe/.mythtv/MythVideo /home/oobe/.mythtv/MythVideo nfs noauto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr [06:11] thats my fstab line [06:11] how do you tell whether dma or what ever is called is on? [06:11] mount /home/oobe/.mythtv/MythVideo [06:11] thats my rc.local line [06:12] Steven_M, the program is hdparm [06:12] i dont know the syntax [06:12] you will have to check the man page or google it [06:12] kk [06:13] oobe: did I get the turm dma right? [06:13] * term [06:17] oobe, do you have it unmount manually too? [06:22] ajhtiredwolf, no i dont [06:22] basically i wanted it mounted all the time [06:22] oobe, for some reason it hangs while unmounting too, let me try it now though making those changes [06:23] ajhtiredwolf, do you need to umount it [06:23] what purpose is it for [06:23] i save my recordings and vidoes are read from it [06:23] i have 5 different mount points for my remote frontend [06:23] all of which i do not wish to umount [06:24] well they have to be unmounted when rebooting [06:24] you dont need to mount you recordings [06:24] but for mythvideo you do [06:24] yeah they do umount when rebooting [06:24] the recordings folder is on a seperate machine [06:24] and i dont experience problems with that [06:24] seperate from the frontend [06:24] i mean backend [06:25] the front end and the back end are on the same machine [06:25] the actually storage directory is on a different one [06:25] hmm yeah so while rebooting it says this CIFS VFS: server no responding [06:25] CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 mid 42906 [06:25] and it hangs here [06:25] for aw hile [06:27] do you need to use CIFS [06:27] like for password protection or somthing [06:27] cause i dont really know much about it [06:27] darn looks like the same problem even when using automount, it is hanging at mount error 101 = network is uncreachable [06:28] hmm well that is the only way that i know of to do it [06:28] you can try using NFS [06:28] i can help you [06:29] oobe, alrighty, is that just a different network manager? [06:29] its just a different file share protocol [06:30] well not to different [06:30] but sounds like you network is coming up really late [06:30] oobe, yeah ive always had problems with it, some times it doesnt cmoe up at all heh [06:30] unless your fstab line is missing the noauto [06:30] is it wired [06:30] Yes it is [06:31] i would look at testing things with your network first [06:31] do you use NetworkManager [06:31] oobe, the problem is iwith the driver [06:31] oobe, but regaurdless it needs to be mounted after the network starts [06:34] you nic driver? [06:34] onboard lan drvier [06:34] does the network start before your window manager [06:35] oobe, hmm not sure [06:35] if it does you can add a a small mount script in ~/.config/autostart [06:36] make a small script call /usr/local/bin/netmount [06:36] add the mount command [06:36] how can i check if it does? [06:36] chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/netmount [06:37] then "ln -s /usr/local/bin/netmount ~/.config/autostart [06:37] then "ln -s /usr/local/bin/netmount ~/.config/autostart" [06:37] i dont really know [06:37] other than if it hangs before the wm loads [06:37] then it probably has already started [06:37] plus its likely that it has [06:37] oobe, i read that ther would be better driver support for my onboard lan in 8.10 [06:37] so it might be best to just wait and see [06:38] since the networking scripts are at a lower run level [06:38] btw do you use lirc? [06:38] i guess or you could try and build the new driver yourseld [06:38] yes [06:39] does irexec -d start for you automatically? [06:39] no [06:39] i use a script [06:40] its the one i call daemon in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905271 [06:40] when mythtv crashes does the button you use to launch it stop working? [06:40] well it doesnt crash [06:40] heh [06:40] but sometimes the remote stops working on my remote frontend [06:41] that may be a prob with the lirc drivers [06:41] does it have a delay some times? like when you are flipping thorugh channels or changing the volume, does it stutter? [06:41] the remote? [06:41] yeha [06:42] not really [06:42] grr [06:42] ive only met one other person with this problem [06:42] and he didnt know how to solve it either [06:42] i think to be honest you should look at fixing your network and testing the speeds [06:42] it only seems to happen in mythtv [06:42] there is a delay on the button press, and while im doing something, like turning up the volume, the video skipos, sound stays the same but vidoe skips [06:42] and having a backend record to a remote filesystem my be a big part of the problem [06:43] the network latency is probably enough to make mythtv crash [06:44] so i should put the backend on the same machine where the files are stored? [06:47] hey oobe will you be on tomorrow? [06:47] yeah that would make things a lot more simple [06:47] hard to say [06:47] you can pm me on ubuntuforums.org [06:47] my nick is oobe-feisty [06:48] or fiesty [06:48] i get it mixed up [06:48] i just havent met anyone who had this much insite to what im trying to do, coudl I add on msn or something? Im on quite a few pain killers from a surgery right now so im probably gonna crash pretty soon heh [06:48] yeah kasper6667@hotmail.com [06:48] and yes when i tried to set up all this stuff i had trouble finding support to [06:48] thanks man, il message you tomorrow if your on, thanks for your help [06:48] well i guess it kinda figures [06:49] making your own dvr isnt necessarily going to be easy heh [06:49] but it is worth it [06:49] for sure [06:49] i had the added nightmare of using wireless [06:49] i wish i would ahve invested in a nicer card [06:49] i spent about 200$ extra on stuff i didnt need [06:50] the card that i got was onl y20$ hah [06:50] it was a real pain just to get linux to recognize it [06:50] well the graphics card i use for my remote fe is only 20$ but it displays in 1080i [06:51] and yeah i have had some shit cheap tv cards that are supposedly supported [06:51] but have been useless [06:51] letss see though [06:52] if i were to put the backend on the other machine, i would need the card there too right? [06:52] that would be my preference [06:52] otherwise you will have the same problems [06:52] darn [06:52] my be/fe machine does all the work [06:53] yeah I dont think i will be able to do that hah, that is my ftp server / ssh server already ,and i dont have a cable line running there [06:53] it has 160GB partition for recordings [06:53] thats all i need [06:53] and of course it has the tuner aswell [06:53] I was thinking of getting a 1tb hd, they are only like 90$ now [06:53] wow thats cheap [06:53] Yeah seirously, im betting that 2tb will be out soon [06:54] the prices just dropped dramatically hah [06:54] i got one a few weeks ago for $200 aud [06:54] which is about 120usd now but wasnt then [06:54] where are you from? [06:54] australia [06:54] right on, my good friend elissa is from there [06:55] so i cant help with thinks like atsc or h.264 transcoding [06:55] cool [06:55] hey is it not possible to have recordings automatically go to mpeg or avi?. some times told me it wasnt, but i kinda dobut that [06:55] it seems like it would be too usefl for someone to NOT make something to do that hah [06:57] Trying to not pass out heh [06:59] well what you are talking about is autostranscoding [06:59] it ends up being a nuv file [06:59] it ends up being mpeg2 or mpeg4 [07:00] but the extension is nuv [07:00] right, but could it made to automatically made into an afile?vi [07:00] and it doesnt play very well in other players [07:00] hmm but it wont play in a regular program [07:00] right [07:00] you can transcode nuv files to dvix xvid avi files using nuvexport [07:01] there is a great howto for that on ubuntuforums [07:01] yeah but that has to be done manually [07:01] correct [07:01] my hope was that the recorded episodes would be made into divx automatically and then be saved in the sahred folder on my ftp [07:01] but it depends on how you watch your recordings [07:02] no i have a remote frontend i have no need to export my nuv files [07:02] as my fe box is plugged into the big tv [07:02] btw what is fe stand for? [07:02] oh [07:02] front end [07:02] yeah [07:02] haha sorry i m a little spacy right now [07:02] thats cool [07:02] dont get addicted to your meds :P [07:02] haha, no chance there [07:02] im just in a hell of allot of pain right now [07:03] thats cool [07:03] well not right now [07:03] because im on them lol [07:03] i tired to not take them today, to see how i woulod do [07:03] yeah, im not quite ready teo stop yet haha [07:03] I had all four wisdom teeth pulled out, and two of them were ubstructed, so they had to drille thorugh my jaw [07:03] hurt like a mother ****** [07:04] i bet [07:04] i need some dental work [07:04] but i can afford it [07:04] so you have the machine hooked up to a big tv? [07:04] yeah [07:05] i hear that,... I dont have dental insurance, but i got financed i have a ayear to pay it off [07:05] will be around 125$ a month [07:05] not too cheap [07:05] no [07:05] but it was either that [07:05] or live with the constant pain, it became a little too much though [07:05] i work in a call center, im a bill collector, so using my mouth is kinda important [07:06] and it was killing me [07:06] i have to point out im working there to pay my way thorugh school, most people figure im a slacker when tehy hear i work in a call center hah [07:06] btw whats your name oobe? [07:07] kemble [07:07] aaron, pleased to meet you, ive met some great people i nthe ubuntu portions of linux hah [07:07] its relally different from other places, most of the linux irc places are so incredibly unfriendly its impossible to say anything without being torn to shreds [07:08] yeah i think i know what you mean [07:08] have you ever been in #mythtv ? [07:08] i have been around a few years prior to using ubuntu [07:09] #mythtv is for developers [07:09] #mythtv-users i mean [07:09] they dont support mythtv there [07:09] yeah i have [07:09] yeah I used fedora a few years ago [07:09] ive been in there twice.. and flipping a, that is probably the worst one ive been in [07:10] somtimes i get what i need [07:10] other times they tell me what i want to do is impossible [07:10] asking a question i nt here is basically like jumping infront of half a dozzen rifle men looking for target practice [07:10] then i end up proving them wrong [07:10] yeah they can be rude or sarcastic [07:10] when i mentinoed that i used ubuntu in there they basically told me to buzz off [07:11] with a bit more colorful language hah [07:11] i think you need to keep things mythtv specific thats all [07:11] like if you have mythbuntu installed and you are trying to solve a network issue they wont consider it mythtv related [07:12] hmm i suppose not, there problem seemd to be with the fact that i was using ubuntu though [07:12] they wennt on about how ubuntu users are all a bunch of noobs that dont belong in linux hah [07:16] well that is kinda of true in one way cause its very easy to install and configure [07:16] so it attracts noobs cause its popular and easy to use [07:16] but that doesnt mean its not a great os [07:16] eh, well sure, but attracting more people is good isnt it? brings more potential deveolopers into the game and helps linux grow [07:16] or that people learning dont deserve respect [07:17] ajhtiredwolf, yes [07:17] i think that its only a good thing [07:17] ah i dont feel like i need respect, its just too bad they cant treat others politely [07:17] and that people should not be discouraged [07:18] I tihnk that ubunut open the door to making linux available to more than ust the hobbiest [07:19] well i think it always was open to that [07:19] i mean i have used linux since 2002 [07:19] and it was still a great server then [07:19] but are you not a hobbiest? :p [07:20] well i dont do it for a living [07:20] but i dont need windows for anything [07:20] what i mean is, you are more expert in computers than the average folk [07:20] my point was linux has its place in commercial enterprises for a long time [07:21] ubuntu is can be used by more than just the computer advanced, they use it in my university allot to [07:21] yes its very easy to install and use [07:21] i have seen people who have never used linux before setup pcs with ubuntu very well [07:22] yeah, it still has a ways to go though [07:22] before its about as easy as windows is [07:22] or more importantly mac [07:23] i dont think so really [07:23] just my opinion [07:23] its just that people who use linux/ubuntu for the first time are already used to windows [07:23] well you still have to use the terminal allot even in ubuntu [07:23] if someone who had never used a computer b4 used ubuntu they would pick it up as fast as windows [07:24] and what people are used to now is pure gui [07:24] i used to use dos a lot in windows [07:24] yeah but that isnt the wayt it is going now [07:24] i know what you are saying [07:24] and mac is taking it a step futher withh touch interfaces [07:24] but there is a gui equivalent in linux for most admin tasks [07:25] but its not qutie as intuitive [07:25] but i usually find it easier to tell people how to use the console [07:25] im gonna watch some wsop now [07:25] i will ttyl [07:26] alright man, good to meet you, take it easy [07:26] nice to meet you aaron [10:45] I had a disk failure and lost /home. [10:46] I setup using mythbuntu-control-panel - to auto login and stat mythbuntu session - but it just comes up with a standard XFCE desktop and doesn't run mythfrontend [10:46] my .dmrc file is ok - now lost as to how to fix. [10:55] Hi - how does one enable XDMCP in mythbuntu? For ubuntu, you'd use the 'login screen setup' in administration, but it is not present in mythbuntu. Cheers. [11:02] hmm. Or maybe it is already running - excuse me one moment while I investigate. [11:08] Sorry, I just discovered I don't need to run XDMCP - using Xming I can go through plink, which seemingly avoids the need to run XDMCP (that, or it is already running). [11:57] is there a way to change the dvd format of mytharchive from udf to iso9660? [13:56] Hello everyone, does anyone have a few to help point me in the right direction? I have a secondary backend with a tuner that doesn't want to stream to frontends. [14:30] Hello everyone, does anyone have a few to help point me in the right direction? I have a secondary backend with a tuner that doesn't want to stream to frontends. [18:34] hello, i unfortunately set a very low display resolution on my settings. i need to set it back , but i cant my mouse doesnt move to the rest of the screen, is it possible to move via the arrow keys somehow? [19:14] adnc, generally, tab moves to the next field. alt-n to go to next page. [20:58] Hello all....perhaps it's my sleep deprived insanity kicking in, but I'm going a little more crazy trying to setup LIRC in mythbuntu using an ir blaster and a streamzap receiver (the remote I'm actually using with this receiver is a universal remote) [20:59] currently, it seems like my lirc daemon is only setup for the irblaster, despite having setup both in the mythbuntu control center... and irw is not displaying any data when I attempt to press random buttons [20:59] the ir blaster will light up, but something has to be off, as it's not giving any signal to the box [20:59] can anyone help me out? [21:01] why does mytharchive not tell me how much space the recordings I have selected will take up? The scale on the righthand side never shows anything. I have spent a day waiting for iso's to be made only to find that I cant use them and need to start over [21:01] how large/long is the file you're trying to archive? [21:02] several small (100-250MB) [21:03] does the scale just not work and I should pretend it isnt there? [21:03] so you're trying to archive video files? I'm no expert, but that might cause a problem. I've only tried to archive recordings. [21:03] no, recordings are what I have [21:03] tv [21:04] are they still in MPEG 2? [21:04] making a dvd, not an archive [21:04] does the scale work for you? [21:04] my system is a bit crippled now, so I can't do much of anything [21:05] did the scale work for you? [21:05] but whne I've used it in the past, with tv shows, the scale worked fine [21:05] I had to transcode the shows to the EP and I could fit 4-5 hour long shows [21:07] did you transcode the files to remove commecials first, then go to mytharchive? [21:07] no [21:07] so you removed commerecials from within mytharchive? [21:07] I think (and, again I'm no expert) but if you create a cutlist, archive will automatically snip those parts [21:08] I did not find that to be the case, but I guess I probly did it wrong [21:08] and I'm wondering if mytharchive is capable of handling space usage with transcoded files. [21:09] I transcode b4 mytharchive because I am putting alot of ep's on each cd so I have a dir full of recordings [21:09] with the recordings being mpeg2, mytharchive may just transcode to a lower setting (or direct copy) since (most)commercial dvd players require MPEG 2 [21:09] dvd = mpeg2 [21:10] I don't doubt it could work, but that might be why the scale doesn't work [21:10] yes [21:10] If I knew how much space the menu takes up then I might be able to do it [21:11] that, I couldn't answer, though I imagine the Menu and the images themselves aren't that much. [21:11] I just wonder if mytharchive is trying to reencode them to MPEG2 and that's why #1 it takes all day and #2 you run out of room quickly [21:13] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741935 - sounds like a similar situation [21:13] are you selecting "Don't Re-encode"? [21:14] I use the simple menu, just a list of files, no chapt or preview [21:17] I will try with dont re-encode. I have usually left it at the default of sp [21:17] it probably won't show the status bar still, but that *should* let you export it to DVD [21:17] I can just select less ep's too [21:17] keep in mind, unless your dvd player is specially designed / equipped to play xvid, any dvd you burn with "Don't re-encode" will not work [21:18] how many files are you trying to put in there? [21:20] now that I have the files set to "dont re-encode" it shows up on the scale! [21:20] cool [21:20] but, I cant use it [21:20] huh? [21:20] cuz I am burning them as dvd's so they will play w/o needing to check [21:21] so I need to undo all this [21:22] I am glad you mentioned the xvid caveat [21:22] now I wont make a bunch of coasters [21:22] this is so frikkin tedious [21:24] I need to check my transcoder settings, I must be changing them to mp4. I need to keep them mp2 so they are more dvd freindly [21:27] yup, my most used transcoder was set to mp4. changed it to lossless [21:28] yeah, just keep in mind, the mp2 takes alot more room [21:29] with my setup, mpeg 2 takes about 1 gig / hour or 1.5 hours [21:29] whereas mpeg 4 takes about 200 megs / hour [21:29] all depending on your quality settings of course [21:35] yeah, maybe I will just leave it all alone and just select less eps [21:37] of course now it is hung cuz I tried changing things while a dvd creation was in progress [21:37] grrrrrrr [21:38] heh [23:37] <||ChAoS||> anyone around that might be able to provide some directon on following steps to fix a NForce2 audio driver issue,.. I have a article that should fix it but I cant do some steps due to not having the full ubuntu UI/control panel. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30076 I cant do steps 2 and 4 [23:39] is anyone else using the 8.10 rc? I just installed it this weekend and I can't watch live TV