[00:02] anyone happen to know where the kernel deb files are listed on launchpad? i haven't been able to find any kernel packages (i want an older one) [00:04] seele: source: linux [00:04] (i hvert fald i hardy++) [00:04] (at least in hardy++) [00:05] * a|wen should talk english [00:10] apachelogger: did bug 285807 affect you? Only the patch doesn't seem to have fixed the issue for me [00:10] Launchpad bug 285807 in ktorrent "ktorrent uses high cpu and all of memory" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285807 [00:15] a|wen: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/linux-386/2.6.25.2.3 [00:15] a|wen: shouldnt there be linux-headers and linux-modules package dependencies? theyre not listed. [00:16] shit, that's not the right one anyway [00:16] argh! [00:16] seele: exactly what are you looking for? [00:17] holy crap anyone watching the basebal lworld series? worst national anthem ever [00:17] a|wen: the kernel that is on the alpha4 cd [00:17] a|wen: bug 268565 [00:17] Launchpad bug 268565 in linux "iwl3945 times out after just a minute of use" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268565 [00:17] a|wen: i've got a 3945abg in my worklaptop and right now it's pretty much a paperweight :-/ [00:18] seele: do you know the version of it ... or a date? [00:18] 2.6.26-5-generic is what is listed on the live cd [00:18] but the ppl in #ubuntu said there are no .debs on the live cd and so i have to download it [00:20] seele: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.26-5.15 [00:20] seele: that's at least what i could make out of the date of the alpha4 news on kubuntu.org [00:21] a|wen: do i just need image and headers or do i need all of those packages? [00:22] seele: image and headers should be enough ... and you'll probably want the modules from that time as well [00:25] Would someone please look again at Debian Bug #503401? They've fixed it now. So should we grab the patch? [00:25] Debian bug 503401 in kvirc "try to start command via irc:// handler" [Serious,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/503401 === TeLLuS__ is now known as TeLLuS [00:36] ScottK: looks good to me ... a clear improvement as it replaces a home-made escape-something-function with a Qt escape function [00:37] a|wen: Would you prepare a debdiff and we'll see if it goes in -release or -proposed? [00:40] ScottK: i can do that [00:41] a|wen: Please include making an appropriate Ubuntu bug you can close in debian/changelog in that effort. [00:43] ScottK: i'll do that as well [00:43] Thanks. [00:48] a|wen: yay! thanks for the help [00:49] seele: no problem [00:51] ScottK: should I bump urgency as well? [00:51] a|wen: Don't bother. Ubuntu doesn't use it. [00:52] ok, noted :) [01:02] think Bug 289355 could be serious? [01:02] Launchpad bug 289355 in gtk-qt-engine "gtk-qt-engine needs libbonoboui2-0 to render correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289355 [01:04] uh oh [01:05] * JontheEchidna was afraid of that [01:05] Riddell: ^ [01:05] * Hobbsee blinks [01:05] uhhhh..... [01:05] yeah, that's RC. who screwed that up? [01:06] JontheEchidna: note the lack of depends *at all* [01:06] Urgh. [01:07] I'll do a quick revert if somebody sponsors me, if we can make it in time [01:07] JontheEchidna: I can sponsor it. [01:08] it is deliberate that it doesn't have depends [01:08] is there actually a problem here? [01:08] install firefox or something and check? [01:08] * ScottK steps aside for the master. [01:08] Riddell: according to bug 289355 it is [01:08] Launchpad bug 289355 in gtk-qt-engine "gtk-qt-engine needs libbonoboui2-0 to render correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289355 [01:08] Since gtk-qt-engine has been updated in Intrepid to not depend on libbonoboui2-0, KDE theme does not apply to GTK applications. Installing libbonoboui2-0 by hand solve the issue. [01:08] says that it is... [01:09] I don't see a problem, I've no desire to start bringing in gtk depends onto the CD [01:10] I can see that. Does that drag a lot of other stuff in too then? [01:11] cairo, glade, glib and libgnome prominently [01:11] It's a 5 minute build on i386, which is the only busy arch due to language packs. [01:12] ScottK: it can be rescored manually [01:13] Hobbsee: Yes. I just want to make sure we leave room for what's there to finish and any last minute excitement. [01:13] right [01:13] Riddell: Would it be better to drop it to the DvD and not install it by default then? [01:13] no, then it'll never get used [01:14] but does it actually do anything now anyway? [01:14] yes, if you have gtk and bonabo instaled [01:15] Riddell: So by default it does nothing and you need to install stuff. How is it worse to have to install it and then have it work (if it drags the depends in)? [01:15] * ScottK is confused. [01:16] people install gnomey things, it works [01:17] without it, people install gnomey things and you get GTKs stupid default theme [01:18] so what you're saying is that these deps should automatically get installed if you install gnome programs, soit should all work [01:18] Unfortunately it doesn't look, at least based on casual observation that Firefox is one of those things that drags all the right Gnomey things in. [01:19] iz gtk bug [01:21] OK. Any suggestion which package we should pin the blame on then? [01:21] gtk, it should ship a nice theme [01:23] maybe gtk 3.0 will get a theme that sucks less [01:23] hope so [01:23] A [01:28] B [01:31] C [01:33] Sorry to break the pattern, but ... [01:34] a|wen: Did you get distracted or is there a problem? [01:35] ScottK: the patch didn't apply cleanly (we were one debian revision off, so they had some other patches too) so i needed to recreate it manually [01:35] ScottK: it's testbuilding right now [01:35] a|wen: Great. Thanks for sticking with it. [01:37] ScottK: of course ... i suppose you are ready to give it a quick test in 5-10 mins or so to see that nothing explodes [01:37] Yes. [01:38] I'll probably stay up tonight until close to the final freeze just in case. [01:40] a|wen: Why don't you go ahead and give me the debdiff so I can start my build too. [01:40] is kde3 still supported, namely k3b? or is everything kde4 now? [01:40] Not everything is KDE4. [01:40] There is no KDE3 desktop, but we ship KDE3 apps in a number of cases where it made sense. [01:41] * ScottK senses that question coming up again. [01:41] don't we have a wiki for that? [01:41] ScottK: devbug 289695 [01:41] Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | 4 days to go! | There is no KDE3 desktop, but we ship KDE3 apps in a number of cases where it made sense. [01:41] Oops. [01:41] ScottK: debdiff at bug 289695 [01:41] Launchpad bug 289695 in kvirc "irc// uri handler command excution vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289695 === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | 4 days to go! | There is no KDE3 desktop, but we ship KDE3 apps in a number of cases where it made sense. [01:41] OK. Thanks. [01:43] 4 more days and #kubuntu-kde4 gets to move to #kubuntu [01:43] ScottK: any other things we should look at before final freeze? [01:44] Not that I'm immediately aware of. [01:47] JontheEchidna: How are things in the user channels? [01:48] I really only hang out in #kubuntu-kde4 and #ubuntu+1 [01:48] OK. Well since I'm curious about last minute Intrepid issues, that works. [01:49] anyone experiencing plasma crashes? [01:49] Not me. [01:49] ScottK: upgrade or fresh insta..? [01:49] Upgrade. [01:49] ScottK: in #k-kde4 we mainly help people find out how to use stuff or help them turn off compositing from the console, etc [01:50] OK, well it seems like you're in the right channels to hear about anything exciting and last minutish. [01:50] The kvirc thing I only know about because I get all the Debian KDE bug traffic. [01:50] yeah, not many reports of things asploding [01:51] mainly people needing help to find feature x [01:51] Excellent. [01:51] or turn off compositing from the konsole [01:51] You might also consider issues that ought to be in the release notes. [01:52] Speaking of which, who's taking charge of the final release notes? We ought to start on that before release day. [01:56] I could do a wiki page for the final release [01:56] we're abusing nixternal too much lately ;) [01:56] You saw the RC page, right? [01:56] yeah [01:57] OK. That but more so. [01:59] BTW, no such thing as abusing nixternal too much. [02:00] hehe [02:05] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Final/Kubuntu [02:07] Be sure and stamp it draft if you haven't. [02:09] how do I do that? [02:11] do I have to do anything special or do I just say "this is a draft"? [02:13] That'll do for a start. [02:13] ScottK: kvirc test-builded ... doesn't blow anything up here [02:13] There is a way to do a watermark, but I dunno how. [02:13] a|wen: Thanks. Still building here. [02:14] ScottK: i have it in a PPA as well, if you need that at some point: https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive [02:15] I'll wait for my build. My paranoia extends far enough not to install binaries from unsigned repos. [02:17] don't feel that comfortable with it either; but as long as it is inside a VM i do dare ... but signed PPA's would really be good [02:17] Yeah. In a VM it should be fine. I'm testing on real hardware here. [02:22] * JontheEchidna found a better picture of Dolphin [02:23] on the plus side, we were able to cut the list of known issues in half for final :] [02:24] The build finishes ... [02:24] Excellent. [02:24] You should also look at the Hardy release notes and see if there are issues that need to be updated/brought forward. [02:26] Pretty much the only one on that list that we care about is *Bug #1 - Microsoft has a majority market share [02:26] The release note on multiple displays can be updated, but I think not dispensed with. [02:27] As I undertstand it, xrandr only works on rectangular display areas, so both the primary and alternate monitor need to be on the same resolution. [02:27] This can be problematic if you're going to try a to project a presentation and you don't have a lot of fiddling time in advance. [02:28] anyhow, /me is out for the night [02:30] <|ScottK-laptop|> Looks like kvirc works. [02:31] <|ScottK-laptop|> See you later. [02:32] good :) [02:33] a [02:33] Urgh [02:33] a|wen: Uploaded. [02:34] ScottK: perfect [03:08] It looks like the i386 buildd's are full pretty much to final freeze. So unless someone comes up with something that doesn't touch i386, we're done uploading for Intrepid. [03:12] sounds like that was the "just go to bed" call [03:13] that's at least my plan ... see you all tomorrow [03:14] Odd. I existed konversation quite a while ago. ^^^ happened when I closed a konqueror window. [03:14] existed/exited [03:16] looks like the server isn't that picky about receiving from the client that often [03:19] ello.. after the latest update, I could not at all use 2.6.26.7 kernel-- the system starts, but I cannot launch any apps, and it takes forever.. Using the oldest 2.6.27.4 does work, but when I launch any app (say dolphin), there is an unneeded and unnecessary lag to launch the app for about 3-4 secs.. and also, while booting into 2.6.26.7, I get a keyboard icon at the systray, idk what's it for.. I didn't have that earlier/dont have it with [03:19] 26.4 [03:20] * ScottK gently directs glade88 to #kubuntu-kde4 or #ubuntu+1 . [03:21] okay thanks ScottK, I'll ask there.. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [11:26] Riddell: Just trying out Kubuntu for those fixes now [11:26] thanks davmor2 [11:26] Np's [11:31] xerosis: my machines have too much ram, so I wouldn't know :P but since I applied the patch, ktorrent was running for the last 6 days at 501 MiB [11:32] s/ktorrent/my server [11:40] Riddell: Direct install still doesn't seem to be working [11:43] wibble [11:43] Riddell: trying oem now [11:46] Riddell: the release notes link is half off the screen in oem mode [11:46] davmor2: what version of ubiquity do you have ? [11:47] cat /var/log/installer/version [11:47] 1.10.7 [11:49] davmor2: old version, needs 1.10.8 [11:49] davmor2: are you using today's CDs? I only made them an hour ago [11:49] I'll re-update and try again [11:49] thanks [11:54] JontheEchidna: did you actually file a BR for bug 217654 @ fd.o? [11:54] Launchpad bug 217654 in kdesdk "nautilus won't launch KDE apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217654 [11:54] never got around to it [11:58] * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna in the eye [11:58] JontheEchidna: plenty of time now :P [11:59] yeah, guess so [12:01] JontheEchidna: I guess we should target bugs with fix committed to KDE stable for intrepid-updates? [12:01] apachelogger: guess so [12:01] that way we can search for them more easily and close them in the changelog entries [12:09] Riddell: Yay big pause before the screen shows up but it's there in all its glory [12:09] Riddell: direct install [12:13] phew [12:13] oem after I know this installs I think heno is testing it too [12:24] I just spent 15 minutes explaining myself in the most wasteful bug of all. [12:24] JontheEchidna: if the same magic bug gets opened again I will close it without further comment [12:24] ugh, he opened it again? [12:26] JontheEchidna: yes, I tried to explain why this whole beast is not belonging into malone and why we can't deal with it in malone and why he should use blueprints, but I doubt he will get my point [12:26] oh well [12:26] that said I need coffee, so I guess it isn't understandble anyway ;-) [12:26] which one is this? [12:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150333 [12:27] Ubuntu bug 150333 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu does not have the same "magic" than Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Invalid] [12:29] oh dear. that already looks bad. [12:29] haha, the last line kicks ass :D [12:29] did I mention that the box when changing bug status is awfully small? [12:30] hah [12:33] hm [12:33] JontheEchidna: IMHO a "foward to upstream" button would be nice [12:34] Riddell: Yay install notes text is viewable properly now in oem [12:34] phew [12:34] next the the re-start :)# [12:35] Anyone looked at Bug #286858? [12:35] Launchpad bug 286858 in kdegraphics "Gwenview destroys EXIF info when rotating images!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/286858 [12:35] Riddell: It looks like we need to remove the source only of the old separate gwenview package. [12:39] Riddell: Bug #289835 [12:39] Launchpad bug 289835 in gwenview "Please remove gwenview source only from Intrepid" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289835 [12:39] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_bench_2008&num=1 omg [12:43] apachelogger: it's still using 90%+ CPU for me :( [12:44] apachelogger: IIRC 'forward upstream' button is planned. My biggest concern is making sure only people who know enough when to press it have that button. [12:47] ScottK: should be only available to members of the bug control team [12:48] apachelogger: At most. [12:48] apachelogger: Any thoughts on the gwenview EXIF bug ^^? [12:48] If we're eating user's data, that's not really good. [12:49] I am quite sure it's one of the libs rather than gwenview [12:49] * apachelogger goes searching images with exif information [12:49] uhm.. hmm.. the kwinrules are wrong [12:51] uh, my system is speaking german :D [12:51] * apachelogger finds it quite awful when CLI apps are localized though [12:51] ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63232/ [12:52] ScottK: it clearly edits the image, but the exif tags aren't changed [12:52] seele: how? [12:52] Nightrose++ for storing exif images in my pictures folder :D [12:53] apachelogger: Thanks for checking. Would you please mark a nice WTF in the bug? [12:53] apachelogger: huh? [12:53] apachelogger: flickr photos for linuxtag? *g* [12:53] yus :D [12:53] hehe [12:54] Riddell: it's not working the way it did when i first created the rules [12:54] argh.. hold on.. wtf is going on [12:55] Riddell: Yay \o/ \o/ \o/ Works. Now don't touch a thing ;) [12:55] lol [12:55] * ScottK won't fixes Bug 289840 2 minutes after it's reported [12:55] Launchpad bug 289840 in ubuntu "No KDE3.5 in Intrepid Ibex" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289840 [12:56] hah [12:56] ScottK++ [12:56] I like the "For me, as for many others - as far as i know - is it really bad not to have kde3.5 longer in the system." part [12:56] I was nice. [12:56] Riddell: they should all be set to Apply Now, not Apply Initially.. otherwise the windows always open to the rules size even after the user has resized it [12:56] Riddell: Apply Now only sets it the first time and then removes the rule [12:57] Ah. That explains a lot. [12:57] seele: how is that set? [12:59] Riddell: Alt+F3 in any window > Configure Window Behavior > Window Specific Page > Modify > Geometry > s/Apply Initially/Apply Now [13:01] we need a bot to auto-close KDE 3.5 in intrepid bugs :) [13:01] lol [13:01] cause you know there are going to be lots of them coming... [13:01] :P [13:01] * apachelogger finds http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14276/ quite stupid, you could loose your job once a year ... frightening scenario [13:02] apachelogger: If you don't want to be frightened, don't read brainstorm. [13:02] rgreening: I am not so sure about that, "go back to 3.5 for jaunty" sounds more sensible [13:02] apachelogger: aren't they hiring one more kde/kubuntu developer anyway? [13:02] ScottK: just read it because of the kubuntu-not-same-magic-as-ubuntu bug [13:03] seele: That's for upstream work. [13:03] well, I think it's gonna be hard finding one with years of KDE AND Quick Time experience :P [13:03] ScottK: kwinrules is our doing [13:04] So it's on purpose apps get started the same size no matter what I had it at last? [13:04] ScottK: it's not, we just use the wrong rule as seele explained [13:04] apachelogger: for i in bugs.launchpad.net do; find KDE 3.5 | grep -i [Jaunty/Intrepid] | remove $i; done [13:05] ScottK: same difference isnt it? i'd assume the upstream work they would do would to benefit kubuntu/ubuntu in the end [13:05] rgreening: ^_^ [13:05] (Riddell is probably the best person to ask about that though ;P) [13:05] seele: Yes, just not directly. [13:06] seele: even when someone gets employed to work on the kernel we indirectly benefit from it ;-) [13:06] * ScottK suddenly realizes he forgot coffee this morning and so if probably babbling senslessly. [13:06] how can you forgot coffee? my brain stops functioning if i don't maintain the proper caffiene/blood ratios [13:08] jjesse_: I'm highly distractable. I made it and then came back to my desk for a moment while it was brewing. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [13:12] apachelogger: From my perspective as a consultant having a one year contract would be a nice piece of added stability and comfort. [13:13] ScottK: hm, yeah, probably depends on the POV [13:13] also 1 year = 2 cycles, I guess one could even do some greater projects within that time ;-) [13:14] JontheEchidna: should quickaccess really be able to .. [13:15] apachelogger: you mean that wishlist? [13:15] yes [13:15] folderview doens't either, and I don't think it makes much sense [13:15] the point is to quick access some common stuff [13:15] not browse your FS [13:15] yeah, agreed [13:18] Who is in charge of the Kubuntu Bug Triage Army? [13:19] The gwenview source package has been killed off and so the open bugs need to be looked at and relevant ones moved to kdegraphics. [13:19] * apachelogger points at JontheEchidna [13:20] ScottK: LP should handle this more gracefully, reports for kopete also constantly go to the old sourcepackage [13:20] Was the previous source package removed? [13:21] I think so [13:21] rmadison claims it was [13:21] * ScottK just checked. [13:21] kopete only was independent from kdenetworks for a couple of months, so reporting against that package doesn't make any sense [13:22] The separate source package still exists in dapper-backports. [13:23] ha! mario's core devship got mentioned in the weekly newsletter, mine did not. [13:23] Maybe Riddell would copy his 3.5.5 packages into dapper-backports and kill it off. [13:23] no love for poor apachelogger :( [13:26] probably he added it himself [13:27] that is what good news is all about I guess [13:46] seele: trouble with apply now is that it had the nasty habit of removing maximise buttons [13:46] for no obvious reason [13:48] ScottK: I'm here! [13:49] mok0: Upgrading from the PPA versions should work as long as you have kubuntu-desktop installed. [13:49] IIRC, seele has tested that. [13:49] ScottK: ... but I need to upgrade to ii first, right? [13:50] it should work with only kubuntu-kde4-desktop installed [13:50] mok0: ^^ That in hardy and then do your upgrade. [13:51] I have kubuntu-kde4-desktop_0.14-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 [13:51] we have ppa meta-packages? [13:51] that seems like a bad idea [13:52] Riddell: You'd need to have a version of it in the PPA, right? [13:52] Riddell: hum.. so just remove the rules? [13:53] ScottK: why? [13:53] Riddell: all of those apps should be fixed upstream eventually anyway.. the rules were a stop gap so they didn't look stupid when opened for the first time (like ktorrent and system monitor) [13:53] Because we have newer KDE in the PPA than in Hardy and so (I'm assuming) there will need to be differences in the package. [13:54] Riddell: I'm guessing though, I've not actually looked at the PPA. [13:54] mok0: what ppa is that from? [13:54] * ScottK apparently needs more coffee. Back in a few. [13:54] ah, nixternal changed it "Updated meta packages to include kde-window-manager and drop kwin-kde4 for the KDE 4.1 Beta 1 packages" [13:55] Riddell: hang on... [13:55] http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu [14:01] seele: That's what you tested upgrading from, right? ^^ [14:04] ScottK: actually it failed because i didnt have kubuntu-kde4-desktop installed [14:04] seele: So we need a test with it installed? [14:05] mok0 should be a perfect guinea pig then. [14:08] ScottK: yes [14:09] mok0: So feel free to upgrade. There's lots of talent here to laugh at your troubles <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- help you out. [14:18] * JontheEchidna afk for 30 mins [14:19] morning Riddell [14:24] hi.. I set my openGL settings to "fallback" and as I pressed apply, I cant login the X (keeps restarting). how do I reset the graphics settings? [14:25] or maybe create a new user as useradd and passwd shows error: cannot enter home directory using / -- how do I set home directory? [14:34] * mok0 holds breath... upgrade in progress [14:36] mok0: Don't do that! Not breathing may be lethal. [14:38] hunger: I guess you are right... it requires 1 hour 47 minutes still [14:38] * mok0 takes a breath... [14:38] hi NCommander [14:39] glade88: #kubuntu or #kubuntu-kde4 [14:39] has anyone decided what to do with #kubuntu-kde4 this week? [14:39] Riddell: yes, doing that thanks.. [14:40] didn't know there was a #kubuntu-kde4 [14:42] Riddell: I'd say redirect it to #kubuntu after we release. [14:43] maybe we could put kde3 support in #kubuntu-kde3? [14:43] Riddell: yes, we have a plan [14:44] Riddell: the plan is to forward it to #kubuntu [14:45] Riddell: that has been the plan for a good while, actually since its inception. [14:46] :) [14:57] * ScottK guesses Riddell will like kirkland's latest blog entry. [14:57] mm? [14:58] Riddell: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2008/09/hacker-hike-across-scotland.html [15:00] ha ha "Edinburg" why are americans unable to pronounce the last sound in Edinburgh? [15:00] "the Heart of Lothorian" sounds like something out of a Tolkien novel :) [15:01] I think that's one letter away from Lothlorian [15:02] I am wondering what that is [15:02] the heart of midlothian? [15:02] lothlorian [15:03] lolthorian [15:03] lothorlian [15:03] LOLthorian !1 [15:03] * Tm_T hides [15:04] hmmm [15:04] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20081027#feature [15:05] Riddell: do we even care about bug 22319 anymore? [15:05] Launchpad bug 22319 in meta-kde "[3.5b1] New media change service not working as expected" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22319 [15:05] hm [15:05] JontheEchidna: that bug doesn't belong to meta-kde [15:05] * apachelogger notes that we apparently ship a release candidate [15:06] JontheEchidna: sounds obsolete [15:06] Riddell: that's what I thought [15:07] alternate images are out! === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | 4 days to go! | Test test! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [15:07] just when I wanted to digg through google reader -.- [15:08] someobdy needs to change the topic to 3 days to go [15:08] ~topic replace 3 3 days to go! === kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | 3 days to go! | Test test! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [15:09] oh, anybody can change the topic? [15:09] we're not elitest here [15:10] heh [15:10] I thought we just don't care :P [15:10] heh [15:11] JontheEchidna: I find it funny how peter's breadcrum in dolphin looks b0rked ;-) [15:11] lol [15:12] ~twitter status Added myself to planet ubuntu.. yay [15:12] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' [15:12] doh [15:12] update [15:12] not status [15:12] ~twitter status update Added myself to planet ubuntu.. yay [15:12] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' [15:12] ~twitter update Added myself to planet ubuntu.. yay [15:12] status updated [15:12] got it.. [15:12] :) [15:12] aww [15:13] so, anything for little old me to hack on today? [15:14] rgreening: testing testing! [15:15] * rgreening wishes he had a second pc [15:15] vm it is for me... [15:16] hmmm... maybe I should go buy a new laptop... [15:16] :P [15:16] * ScottK considering doing a dist-upgrade test on the kids computer while they are at school. [15:17] Now that more people are awake... how does this look? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Final/Kubuntu [15:17] ScottK: I'd do that to my wifes, but I think she'd freak at the change (without prior warning) to KDE4 :) [15:18] * ScottK is not considering that one. [15:18] :) [15:19] anyone recommend a good python book or tutorial site? [15:20] JontheEchidna: I still don't like that 8.10 pic [15:20] JontheEchidna: ooh great [15:20] needs moar oxygen color pallete [15:20] hm [15:20] nah [15:20] kuubntu color [15:20] anywho [15:21] I get photobucket weirdness [15:21] apachelogger: talk nicely to a|wen, maybe he'll fix [15:21] a|wen: go fix the colors! :P [15:21] JontheEchidna: you can take out "Download the CD", this'll go on the website and we'll have the normal download page to use [15:21] JontheEchidna: or point to /download [15:21] apachelogger: which colors do you want? ... throw a pallette i can choose from at me :) [15:21] ok, but first /me needs hot dogs [15:23] JontheEchidna: release candidate is mentioned a few times; and seems one of the pictures needs to be uploaded someplace else (phptobucket - bandwith exceeded, it says here) ... apart from that, starts looking nice [15:24] a|wen: #2E3436 - #555753 - #888A85 - #EEEEED | #00316E - #00458A - #0057AE - #6094CF - #A8DEE0 [15:24] that would be my photobucket :( [15:24] i can haz hosting? [15:25] JontheEchidna: I guess we could upload to kubuntu.org [15:25]