[00:03] * djdarkman goes to make a coffe as hard as h3ll [00:05] Can someone help me? I'm connected but I can't get Konqueror to load web [00:09] !Konqueror [00:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror [00:09] well crap [00:11] ok, wierd though. this is working but can't use a browser. thanks anyway [00:12] well try settings>configure Konqueror>proxy [00:12] make sure connect to internet directly is chosen [00:15] yes it is === TeLLuS__ is now known as TeLLuS === colin__ is now known as kernco [00:55] hey i have what might be a pretty easy question :) [00:55] how do I make the digital clock in the taskbar read in am/pm format? === __aib is now known as aib [01:09] In kde4 how do I edit text control keyboard shortcuts like "Select all" and "goto beginning of the line" Like I could in kde3 [01:10] tehkde: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 :) [01:10] Thanks! [01:16] hi [01:16] what package brings kcontrol on ubuntu? [01:18] hello? [01:22] ytoox: apt-cache search --names only kcontrol [01:23] ok [01:23] ytoox: sorry, apt-cache search --names-only kcontrol [01:23] ok [01:23] it only shows kcontrol autostart [01:23] That'll also show you how to search for stuff in the future [01:24] ytoox: are you in kde4? [01:24] nop [01:24] I need kde3 [01:24] I installed some kde3 apps on ubuntu but the fonts are too big [01:25] I'm in Kubuntu 8.04 (kde3) and kcontrol is in the repos [01:25] But I heard that kcontrol is gone starting in kde4 [01:25] do you know what package brings it up? [01:25] the package is kcontrol [01:26] mmm [01:26] maybe I need another repo [01:26] like the kubuntu repo [01:26] it's in main [01:26] kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos [01:26] mmm [01:26] ok [01:26] weird cuz I don't see kcontrol anywhere [01:27] can you pastebin your source.list file? [01:27] !paste [01:27] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) === Cueball_temp is now known as Cueball [01:27] where do I find that file [01:27] ? [01:28] /etc/apt/sources.list [01:28] ok [01:28] hold on [01:28] ytoox: use pastebin [01:28] http://pastebin.com/m115102f7 [01:29] ytoox: you're on intrepid? [01:29] I think that is kde4 only [01:29] if you're on kde4, then kcontrol is no longer in the repos [01:29] use systemsettings instead [01:30] systemsettings can't change kde 3 stuff [01:30] I installed basket note pads [01:30] systemsettings is a kde app [01:31] yes, but it does not change kde3 apps [01:31] try this: kcmshell fonts [01:31] basket note pads is only for kde3 [01:31] ok [01:31] EVERYTHING is huge, can anyone help me resise it? [01:32] schuyler_: you mean fonts? [01:32] yeah [01:32] ytoox: did that work for you? [01:32] no [01:32] as in [01:32] no [01:32] :( [01:32] Taskbar, windows, everything [01:32] I'm afraid I don't know much about the new kde4 [01:33] ytoox: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 [01:33] I help kde but right now I am testing ubuntu [01:33] ok [01:33] ok [01:33] schuyler_: You on intrepid? [01:33] no, KDE4 [01:34] schuyler_: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 [01:34] intrepid is kde4 [01:34] oh xD [01:34] yeah, I noticed [01:35] ytoox: But, your sources.list file looks good [01:36] I know [01:39] Hello. [01:39] Is here someone that use Listen (music player) ? [01:39] is kde3 still supported, namely k3b? or is everything kde4 now? [01:40] Listen use Xine, GStreamer or Mplayer? please, help. [01:41] ncfi1013_: kde3 will be supported as long as Hardy is supported [01:42] then why can't i get k3b to burn discs on either a dvdr or dvdrw? === nejode is now known as CANTV_SUCKS [01:44] then why can't i get k3b to burn discs on either a dvdr or dvdrw? [01:45] !info dvdrtools | ncfi1013_ [01:45] ncfi1013_: dvdrtools (source: dvdrtools): DVD writing program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (hardy), package size 129 kB, installed size 304 kB [01:46] !info dvd+rw-tools [01:46] dvd+rw-tools (source: dvd+rw-tools): DVD+-RW/R tools. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0-9ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 144 kB, installed size 412 kB [01:47] ubottu, what does that mean? find it in adept? [01:47] I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) === John is now known as Guest36544 [01:48] well can somebody else help me [01:48] 8.10 current release candidate is running extreemly slow reminds me of win 95 any ideas on why this is? [01:50] still looking for help with Konqueror not connecting [01:51] does anyone know if this issue effects only kubuntu of if ubuntu is equally hobbled ? [01:52] ncfi1013_: to write dvds you need to install the dvd+rw-tools package - you can use adept or konsole and apt-get install [01:53] Guest36544: you should ask that in #ubuntu+1 [01:54] witch is the best software to encode a dvd (vob files) to xvid? === Guest36544 is now known as John === John is now known as Guest83827 === Guest83827 is now known as acee12345 [02:05] has anyone had issues with kubuntu 8.10(current release candidate) running extremely slow ? [02:07] acee12345: maybe it is a related problem with you graphics and the 2d acceleration, witch graphics card do you have? [02:08] ati x1400 [02:08] install fglrx? [02:10] what driver do you recommend ? [02:14] acee12345: I am not very sure, but I think the free radeon driver should be ok [02:14] hi [02:15] acee12345: are the graphics slow or the overall performance? [02:15] What happens, when I install Kubuntu 8.10 RELEASE CANDIDATE(!) on a PC and next weeks comes the final release.... Do I then have to install from new ?? [02:15] when i try to open konsole there is a 5 -7 sec lag before it comes up [02:15] Snowball: no, you can upgrade from internet [02:15] how do i install the radeon drivers [02:16] acee12345: I think you are using them right now. [02:16] KDesk, Will the update affect all packages or just some packages? [02:16] I am afraid of issues like mixing up testing and stable packages on debian [02:17] so why is 8.10 goint 10x slower than 8.04? === fernando is now known as Guest79486 [02:18] Snowball: you will only have to uodate your system like allways [02:18] im not even running compiz [02:18] acee12345: I dont know, sorry. [02:18] acee12345: and the kwin4 compositor? [02:18] KDesk, and 8.10 only uses KDE 4, no more KDE 3, right? [02:18] acee12345: Did you run "top" in a terminal and see if there's an app slowing the system down? [02:18] Snowball: Correct [02:19] ardchoille, no chance to get KDE 3 ? [02:19] nothing is hogging resources === Guest79486 is now known as fernando_ [02:19] cpu usage at 5% total Ram at 15% [02:19] when I gave KDE 4 a try I really disliked it a lot [02:19] Snowball: You can install Hardy, but in Intrepid, kde4 is the only choice for kde [02:19] Snowball: dont you like 4.1, or do you need 3.5? [02:19] KDesk, first ... I dislike 4.1 [02:19] ah [02:19] Snowball: Me too, I'll be staying in Hardy until it's no longer supported [02:20] ardchoille, what chance will we have in the future? [02:20] ardchoille, I feel like WinXP -> Win Vista [02:20] why you both dislike kde 4.1? [02:20] KDE 3 -> KDE 4 is kinda same shock [02:20] Snowball: There are dozens of other window managers. I plan to switch to Window Maker or fluxbox when Hardy is no longer supported [02:20] i guess i go back to 8.04 or even 7.10 untill these issues are fixed [02:21] KDesk, just because *g* (+100 more reasons) [02:21] Snowball: http://xwinman.org/ [02:21] thank you ardchoille [02:21] I use both 3.5 and 4.1 Mostly use the 3.5 because 4.1 crashes during some rather critical points. [02:21] Snowball: Hardy will be suported with kde 3 12 months more, still then kde 4.3 will be out, and I think it will be very good. [02:21] Can't have that... :( [02:22] KDesk, well when I tried KDE 4 the last time, I did not even get a chance to edit the height of the "kicker" [02:22] KDesk: you have a good point, I may try kde4 in 12months, things should have quieted down by then [02:22] I wanted 2 rows of minimized windows [02:22] and there was no chance to, only 1 row [02:23] and all the simple preferences and options like in KDE 3 were gone [02:23] it was so annoying [02:23] Snowball: did you used kde 4.0? 4.1 is much better, and kde 4.2 will be ok to replace 3.5 I think. [02:23] Snowball: Oh, didn't know that. I don't even use a taskbar [02:23] ardchoille, no need for minimizing windows? [02:23] Snowball: Now it is posible with and plasmoid from kde-look.org [02:24] guys, gimme a tip please.... Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 ? [02:24] I need to install now or in 6 hours [02:24] 04 [02:24] but no chance for a later installation [02:24] Maybe if you tray K 8.10... [02:24] tray the live cd a few minutes [02:25] ati+8.10=death [02:25] acee12345, I have an ATI chip in my laptop :) [02:26] Snowball: If you install Interpid now and keep it up to date, then you will have the same system as when it's released as stable [02:26] acee12345: but that is with fglrx I think with the free/normal driver it *should* be ok. [02:27] KDesk so how do i track the issue none of my resources seem hogged [02:27] I have a friend that uses kde 4.1 with also no panels and with many plasmoids in the dashboard, it is also useful [02:27] ardchoille, I am not sure how I can think of that .... in debian times it would be like installing from "testing" and later install "stable" packages [02:27] Snowball: This is no debian ;) [02:27] Snowball: only change the hardy with intrepid in the sources.list [02:28] Snowball: The repos used for the RC will be the same repos used for the stable, the only thing is that the repos will be updated with new packages so you only need to update your system to keep up [02:28] acee12345: ok, lets, see. run this in a konsole: [02:28] x11perf -aa10text [02:29] good, I think the best option is: Hardy for _now_ and when I have a fast enough internet connection again, I will set up 8.10 in about 3 month [02:29] Snowball: Sounds like a good plan [02:29] Snowball: can you now download both? [02:30] If I were you I would burn both and test both live cds. [02:30] KDesk, yes, but the thing is ... lemme explain: [02:30] KDesk: his internet connection may be a problem [02:30] the system I plan to set up is very complex, and I have a protocoll of 7.04 from about 300 packages I installed [02:30] KDesk http://pastebin.com/m70071bd5 [02:30] (additionally installed) [02:31] I guess it would take too much time to try around with 8.10 [02:31] because I am leaving for 3 month by tomorrow [02:31] what is the address for KDE4 irc [02:31] Snowball: aah. Then kde 3.5 will be easer. :) [02:31] good, I am about to download now [02:32] #kubuntu-kde4 [02:32] schuyler_: you mean #kubuntu-kde4 ? [02:32] guys, thank you very much for the nice conversation and the tips [02:32] acee12345: It seems to be ok. [02:32] good luck Snowball [02:32] ardchoille: yeah thanks [02:32] yes, good luck! [02:33] acee12345: tray running the compiz check script.. maybe It shows something broken in you system. [02:34] acee12345: http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check [02:37] KDesk http://pastebin.com/m36d7a611 === david is now known as Dovid === Dovid is now known as Hand_Solo [02:38] Sup guys [02:38] acee12345: again is every thing ok... [02:39] acee12345: maybe the if you have installed from a cd it was damaged or the data was corrupt. have you made a md5sum check or something similar? [02:40] i did checksum on both burn and install [02:40] yo is there any update manager for kubuntu like there's that one in ubuntu? [02:40] acee12345: it is strainge. Some one has in the forum the x1400 with no problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942584 [02:41] cefek: adept is one. [02:41] cefek: in kubuntu 8.04? [02:41] thanks [02:41] 8.10 rc [02:41] KDesktop it just seems that a 12 second delay to open konsole is a bit excessive [02:42] just checking out whether kde4.2 is worth anything [02:42] and funny, 8.10 starts faster on one disk than vista on raid... [02:43] vista is crap... === ep_ is now known as ep [02:44] KDEsk seems to be a memory leak [02:44] yeah I know that already, been with linux since slackware in '97, however i am a gamer... [02:44] acee12345: yes, it is to much. [02:44] cefek: oh, slackware, I haven't tried that one. [02:44] KDesk im watching my ram disappear [02:45] yeah don't bother if you don't like command line [02:45] KDesk: we don't need to knock other OS's , we just help with kubuntu if we can [02:45] acee12345: hmm, that is strainge! Do you know witch process is that? [02:45] BluesKaj: ? [02:46] acee12345: maybe it is you chipset. or a bad RAM, have you made a RAM test? [02:46] KDesk i have like 200 instances of scim-panel-gtk .... wtf [02:47] gtk? hmm [02:48] hmm, how to know with package provides scim-panel-gtk ? [02:48] acee12345: have you killed scim-panel-gtk? [02:48] killall scim-panel-gtk [02:48] i did kill all and the ram when back to norm [02:49] acee12345: and the response time? [02:49] instant [02:49] After using 3d my nvidia 5200 fx for weeks, it suddenly stopped working. Everything is fine using the generic 'nv' driver. Can a video card just go halfway bad, e.g. 2d will work but 3d wont? The reason I suspect this is that I now get a black screen booting into win2k and this used to work as well. Any ideas on what th problem could be? [02:50] KDesk so i installed something it didnt like and i now have no clue what [02:50] acee12345: hehe, tray searching for all the installed gtk packages. [02:51] ep: If it's doing the same thing in two different OS's, chances are you need a new card [02:51] okay [02:52] I mean, these are two completely different OS's and you're getting the same symptoms [02:52] KDesk wow there is a lot of gtk and i dont remember installing any of it [02:53] acee12345: may be deps from a package you installled [02:53] acee12345: maybe dependencies or default installed package to have native them in gtk apps in kde [02:53] so how do i undo this without breaking the system? [02:54] acee12345: scim-panel giving you problems? [02:54] acee12345: I think there is a apt log, but dont know where. [02:54] yes its like rabbits in australia [02:55] hehe [02:55] acee12345: The safest thing to do would be to make sure scim is not being started as a service [02:55] upon bootup [02:56] I'm not sure which package you should uninstall because there are a lot of scim packages and none named "scim-panel" [02:56] acee12345: tray with: dpkg -S /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk [02:58] Hey everyone, I'm trying to help a friend save the data from his windows computer. I've got the kubutu live cd in and I just need to know how to mount the drive so I can pull the data onto a flash drive [02:58] maybe also with dpkg-query [02:59] KDesk syntax [02:59] ? [02:59] dpkg -S /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk ? [02:59] with dpkg-query also with -S [03:00] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/equivalent-of-rpm-qf-command/ [03:01] KDesk returned scim [03:02] acee12345: but that is strainge... [03:03] acee12345: do you need scim? [03:04] scim-gtk got installed with update thingy on ibex [03:04] no clue why [03:04] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid it includes a gtk program [03:06] joy so update killed me [03:10] Can anyone tell me how to mount the hard drive from the computer I'm on? I'm running from the live CD and I need to get some of the files off [03:11] ubuntu__: First you need a mount point: sudo mkdir /mnt/wintmp [03:11] it might be mounted already in /media [03:12] hello.. after the latest update, I could not at all use 2.6.26.7 kernel-- the system starts, but I cannot launch any apps, and it takes forever.. Using the oldest 2.6.27.4 does work, but when I launch any app (say dolphin), there is an unneeded and unnecessary lag to launch the app for about 3-4 secs.. [03:12] I checked media...it's not...ok, directory made [03:12] Then you need to mount the drive to the mount point.. it's likely /dev/sda1. so try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/wintmp [03:13] ubuntu__: sudo mkdir /media/disk && sudo mount /dev/sdax /media/disk -- where /dev/sdax is the device link to the drive displayed by typing "sudo fdisk -l" [03:14] how do I install kde4.1 in hardy? I seem to still have 4.0.3 [03:14] !kde4 [03:14] KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [03:14] Chani: you should wait until intrepid release [03:14] or just update to intrepid rc [03:14] konqueror just stopped loading kubuntu.org... *sigh* === bsuadmin is now known as pogztimz [03:15] ...is that url syupposed to have spaces? where does the url end? [03:16] eeeew. I'd forgotten how unstable 4.0 was [03:16] ardchoille: that url doesn't get me anything useful [03:16] oh and additional info to my problem, while booting into 2.6.26.7, I get a keyboard icon at the systray, idk what's it for.. I didn't have that earlier/dont have it with 26.4 [03:17] Chani: http://www.vibgyorlife.com/Tech/article.aspx?xcatid=57 [03:17] all there is is an announcement saying 4.1.2 was released and linking to the dot [03:17] Chani: Support in #kubuntu-kde4 ? [03:17] that doesn' [03:17] that doesn't tell me how to *install* it [03:18] no, but that will get you to the channel where the kde4 support is [03:18] !topic [03:18] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [03:18] ohh, I see now. I pared it wrong [03:18] *parsed === alexandre is now known as Guest60418 [03:23] Ok, got everything he needed. Thank you all so much...it was a couple of years ago when a similiar situation happened to me that I moved to Kubuntu...maybe tonight will create another convert [03:23] ubuntu__: Hopefully :) [03:23] Thanks again === Guest60418 is now known as alexandre_ [03:24] hello [03:24] my kubuntu live cd taking forever to load [03:26] metbsd: cds are slow. how long has "forever" been so far? [03:26] it's been 10 minutes [03:27] 10 minutes is too long, sounds like something went wrong. you might try restarting it. [03:29] what if it still freeze [03:33] Hi, can I ask Kubuntu questions here? [03:34] !ask [03:34] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [03:37] I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 on an IBM laptop and have installed KLaptop to work as my battery/power management. But in the bottom right I still show Kubuntu's original 'Power Manger' running. This means I have 2 similar utilities running at the same time. I prefer KLaptop. Is there any way to permanently uninstall/delete Power Manager? Tks [03:43] How do you make the digital clock in the system tray read am/pm rather than 24 hour time? [03:43] kubuntu cd says Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 228016 [03:44] emma: right click on it and look at the date/time format [03:45] jdnewmil: no such option. [03:45] why is kde better then gnome? [03:46] jdnewmil: there is something there that says digital clock settings, but it also has no option for date/time format [03:46] commie_cary: why is green better than blue? [03:46] emma: kde 3? [03:46] kubuntu cd says Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 228016, what should i do? [03:46] mr---t-: no this is kde4 [03:47] !kde4 [03:47] KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [03:47] try asking in ther [03:49] Hello. How can I make my USB headset the default for sound output? The headset works fine for Skype but Skype has its own configuration control panel for setting the default output. [03:49] I'm using Hardy, if that makes any difference. [03:50] mr---t-: eventually this channel must be for kubuntu intrepid support right? [03:50] I'm afraid all the people who know what they are talking about aren't going to use kde4 and no one will be able to help new people. :) [03:53] yeah but I 'm not running it so I can't help you :-) [03:54] the answer given above works in kde3 [03:54] How do I create a new .rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ? [03:56] :^) hello - to one & all.. [03:57] Anyone know why OpenOffice3.0 isn't in the repositories yet? [03:58] I have no idea. [03:58] I only have 2.4 [03:58] oh [03:59] started to use launchpad [03:59] i like it [03:59] hello Lurkan [03:59] I really like launchpad 2. [03:59] What's it for? [04:10] Is there a similar channel where (newbie) questions regarding Kubuntu might get answered? [04:11] this is the place , but you are at a time when there is low activity [04:12] I see. Thanks. Any chance you know how to create a new .rules file? I'm trying to get laptop volume keys working. [04:12] sorry no [04:12] corigo: repos for Hardy? [04:18] Yes Hardy 8.10 === crzyboi_Laptop is now known as hidemail === hidemail is now known as crzyboi_Laptop [04:21] corigo: Once the distro is released, the only things that change in the repos are bug fixes and security updates. We don't usually see new software after release. [04:21] You'd have to wait for the next release (Intrepid) [04:21] Which is the best software to transform a DVD (vob files) to xvid? [04:21] corigo: btw, Hardy is 8.04 [04:21] sometimes -backports will have new releases backported from the latest development release [04:21] stdin: Ah, that's true, thanks [04:22] Forgot about backports === joe_ is now known as Skii [04:37] there's a friend of mine trying to send me a pic through yahoo through kopete and she is using window's but i don't know why the pic wont open, can anyone help? [04:38] me*? [04:38] there's a friend of mine trying to send me a pic through yahoo through kopete and she is using window's but i don't know why the pic wont open, can anyone help me out? [04:39] wtf i need help why wont anyone help me out??? [04:40] what the hell is everyone in hear can't help thoughs in need or just don't wanna help anyone out and be dick's!!! [04:42] !PATIENCE | Skii [04:42] Skii: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [04:42] i will have patience when someone start's to help me out with what i need help with. [04:43] there's a friend of mine trying to send me a pic through yahoo through kopete and she is using window's but i don't know why the pic wont open, can anyone help me out? [04:43] that's my problem [04:44] Skii: Not everyone in the channel knows everything there is to know about the entire distro [04:44] And not everyone is watching their screen every second [04:45] ok then fuck ya very much [04:47] Which is the best software to converte a DVD (vob files) to xvid? [04:48] KDesk: The only thing I can think of is k9copy, have you tried that? [04:49] k9copy is good for copying a dvd9 to dvd5, if that helps any [04:49] ardchoille: no, but I will install it, thanks. [04:51] KDesk: Also.. [04:51] !dvd [04:51] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:51] I keep forgetting we have a nice bot here [04:52] KDesk: Also have a look at dvd::rip. I think it'll rip a DVD to MPEG-4. [04:52] ardchoille: k9copy seams to only copy dvds, I have already the vob files. [04:53] KDesk: Oh, ok [04:53] Darthfrog: thanks, I will also install that to see if it works. [04:53] KDesk: Have fun. :-) === Evil_DuDe_ is now known as Evil_DuDe [04:54] It might be in the Medibuntu repository. [04:54] !medibuntu [04:54] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [04:55] dvdrip is in multiverse [04:56] intrepid comes with JDK1.7? [05:04] gocad [05:14] hey all, just wanted to say ibex 8.10 is looking GREAT. excellent work to all devs! === anon is now known as bloodboy [05:16] all the desktop effects are enabled by default, Isn't it so?? [05:18] yes with nvidia drivers enabled [05:18] although some of the effects are a bit slow [05:18] wobbly windows doesnt work too well when you try to scale the window [05:18] if KWin detects your graphic card supports them, they will be enabled automatically afaik [05:36] I have an onboard ATI radeon [05:39] so if I want to install older packages than the ones in the repos, how would I do that? [05:39] The one I want used to be in the repos, but has been replaced by the newer bersion [05:40] morphine: You would have to compile the app yourself. But, keep in mind you might run into dependency problems with currently install packages. [05:40] ugh [05:40] sure do [05:41] morphine: Also.. [05:41] !compile [05:41] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [05:42] yeah, I know, but I am not about to deal with the dependency problems [05:42]