[03:10] <Hobbsee> is launchpad under high load again?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> it is now taking 32 seconds to load https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[03:10] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: any ideas?  (was it you who asked me to report this?)
[03:11] <wgrant> It's 5am in LP land, isn't it?
[03:11] <wgrant> Or is epic over?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> no idea
[03:14] <spiv> wgrant: it's still going... it's epic!
[03:15] <wgrant> spiv: Is it epic because it's long, epic because there are lots of devs there, or epic because it means people aren't here to fix LP when it breaks epically?
[03:15] <spiv> wgrant: yes
[03:15] <wgrant> Good answer.
[03:15] <spiv> :)
[03:15] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:25] <spm> Hobbsee: have had a look around; we're actually pretty lightly loaded atm. But I do agree that that link above is not super fast.
[03:25] <Hobbsee> sph
[03:25] <Hobbsee> spm: hmm, OK.
[03:26] <Hobbsee> spm: i'm not the only one to have noticed launchpad being slow today.  Strange.
[03:26] <spm> hmmm. O
[03:28] <spm> bleh - wrong damn key again - sorry - what I was about to say was: we're the lightest loaded in about a week. Have been all our morning.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> spm: oh well, cool.  :)  I wish some of that extra pedal power can get shoved towards building langpacks or so
[03:29] <wgrant> Huh.
[03:30] <spm> heh. If only it worked like that. :-)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> i know,i know...
[03:32] <spm> Hobbsee: I know you'll probably hit me for suggesting this when we finally meet: But am thinking that perhaps a bug report 'gainst the slowness you're seeing - in particular that link - would be worthwhile??? If only to help get some focus before it gets really bad?
[03:33] <wgrant> Getting really bad won't matter in a few hours.
[03:33] <persia> That's actually probably worthwhile, in part because EeeBotu hits that page fairly often.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> spm: well, i've now got a bug from the, erm, repeating breakage over the week, but I could do that.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> spm: I can try reporting a bug, and will hope for more success than the last one.
[03:33] <wgrant> LP can feel free to collapse soon. Maybe it can do all of its collapsing before Jaunty even opens.
[03:34] <Hobbsee> wgrant: *snort*.  don't give it ideas!
[03:34] <spm> wgrant: I was thinking more 6-12 months - it could be like a query that (now) needs optimising; or similar
[03:34] <spm> heh
[03:34] <Hobbsee> spm: when do we finally meet, btw?
[03:34] <spm> Dunno. OSDC? I'm coming up for that.
[03:34] <Hobbsee> not UDS?
[03:34] <Hobbsee> hm, wasn't going tothat
[03:35] <spm> UDS? No. Aprt from manging servers et al, don't have a lot to do with Ubuntu itself - per-se.
[03:35] <spiv> spm: Oh, you'll be at OSDC too?  Cool.
[03:35] <Hobbsee> darn
[03:35] <spm> spiv: how could I miss the opportunity to heckle all you folk talking! ;-)
[03:36] <wgrant> LP people are normally at UDS, aren't they?
[03:37] <wgrant> But you're not LP...
[03:41] <spm> not really no. support LP, but not part of LP. We (losa's) also support landscape.
[03:42] <wgrant> You're technically part of IS rather than LP?
[03:44] <spm> yup.
[03:54] <NCommander> spm, question, is there a way we could manually move one or two of the PPA builders to the regular pool (to help combat the langpack builds before final freeze)
[03:55] <wgrant> I don't think that's a LOSA question.
[03:55] <wgrant> I think that's an infinity question.
[03:55] <wgrant> And I think slangasek will do something if he feels it necessary.
[03:55] <spm> wgrant: NCommander: pretty much my understanding too.
[03:55]  * NCommander paints a sideways eight on a spotlight and shoots it into the sky
[03:56] <cody-somerville> NCommander, just use a PPA to do your building. :P
[03:56] <NCommander> cody-somerville, no, its a matter of getting the langpacks built so we can enter final freeze
[03:57] <cody-somerville> NCommander, final freeze is for wimps.
[03:59] <Hobbsee> so's -security
[04:02] <persia> cody-somerville, hardy is for wimps.
[05:09] <antono_> hello!
[05:09] <antono_> anybody can help me to understand my fault with ppa packaging?
[05:10] <antono_> trying to build my first package 8 hours long
[05:13] <antono_> https://launchpad.net/~antono/+archive/+build/750390
[05:24] <stdin> antono_: if you look at https://launchpad.net/~antono/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all you can see it's waiting on a missing build-dependency
[05:24] <stdin> "Missing dependencies: gconf-2.0-dev"
[05:25] <stdin> maybe you mean "libgconf2-dev"
[05:56] <antono_> anybody can help me to understand my fault with ppa packaging?
[05:56] <antono_> trying to build my first package 8 hours long
[05:57] <stdin> [05:24]<stdin> antono_: if you look at https://launchpad.net/~antono/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all you can see it's waiting on a missing build-dependency
[05:57] <stdin> [05:24]<stdin> "Missing dependencies: gconf-2.0-dev"
[05:57] <stdin> [05:25]<stdin> maybe you mean "libgconf2-dev"
[05:57] <persia> antono_, as stdin sat, it's waiting on the gconf-2.0 package which doesn't exist.  It will wait forever.  Upload a new version.
[05:57] <antono_> yep i'll try
[05:58] <antono_> rightnow i fixed it
[05:58] <antono_> and waiting for new build
[05:59] <antono_> can i say to debhelper to extract build-depends from configure or something similar?
[06:01] <RAOF> antono_: No, there's no such funtionality.
[06:02] <antono_> it isn't possible at all or it's just missing feature?
[06:02] <antono_> hmm
[06:02] <RAOF> It's pretty much not possible at all.
[06:02] <antono_> i think it isn't possible koz configure knows nothing about apt
[06:02] <antono_> am i right?
[06:03] <RAOF> Yeah, that's about the right ballpark
[06:03] <antono_> it would be nice to have clever build system
[06:04] <antono_> something like packagekit with different backends
[06:05] <antono_> E: Couldn't find package libgnomeui-2.0
[06:05] <antono_> i'am stupid
[06:05] <antono_> sorry
[06:07] <RAOF> "aptitude search" is likely to be useful for you.  As is 'apt-file search gnomeui-2.0.pc', for example.
[06:11] <antono_> is tere any way inform dput about default upload ppa?
[06:11] <persia> Also, you don't necessarily want to give configure *every* package it wants.  Sometimes you want to not have some features because they are especially buggy or break other features you do want.
[06:11] <persia> Yes.  Set [DEFAULT] in your dput.cf
[06:12] <antono_> thanks
[06:16] <antono_> am i stupid? i spen all night building one package
[06:17] <antono_> is it normal learning curve for new debian packager?
[06:18] <RAOF> this is pretty normal, yes.
[06:18] <persia> Just one night is fairly good.  Some people spend a couple months.
[06:20] <antono_> persia, i not finished yet ;)
[07:28] <glade88> where will be the Jaunty UDS located at?
[07:28] <persia> Mountain View, CA, USA, but why ask here?
[07:29] <glade88> persia: lol.. coz I saw this https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-jaunty
[07:29] <persia> Hmm.  sprints should probably belong to projects or distros.
[07:31] <glade88> yea.. one can propose a blueprint for the sprint afaik
[09:35] <stefanlsd> Does anyone know why im getting an AssertionError - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stefanlsd/mplayer/hardy
[09:36] <stefanlsd> Actually it may be related to - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/272372
[09:37] <stefanlsd> Although i thought branch stacking was fixed in the latest LP
[09:37] <beuno> thumper, mwhudson ^
[09:37] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: yeah. its exactly that bug
[09:38] <mwhudson> the fix just missed the last rollout
[09:39] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: i can provide you with some gobbledygook to make the branch work if you like
[09:39] <mwhudson> or actually, i can fix it
[09:39] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: previously, i was able to do - b = bzrlib.branch.Branch.open('bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~username/treename') \n b.set_stacked_on_url('/~teamname/originaltreename')  which doesnt seem to make it work
[09:39] <stefanlsd> used to work actually, not anymore
[09:39] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: oh right, that's what i was going to suggest
[09:39] <mwhudson> hmm
[09:40] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: let me try it again just to confirm
[09:42] <thumper> stefanlsd: your branch urls are missing a third part
[09:42] <mwhudson> i get
[09:42] <mwhudson> bzrlib.errors.UnknownErrorFromSmartServer: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', 'Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)')
[09:43] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: im getting this - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63168/
[09:43] <stefanlsd> looks like ssh host key verification failing...
[09:43] <spiv> mwhudson: that's a wacky error to get from a smart server!
[09:43] <mwhudson> spiv: yes
[09:44] <spiv> The "Host key verification failed.
[09:44] <spiv> " bit is particularly curious.
[09:45] <stefanlsd> yeah, let me try move my known_hosts
[09:45] <mwhudson> spiv: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63169/
[09:45] <mwhudson> spiv: i think thats a message from the server
[09:46] <mwhudson> (say, i'm glad i fixed the sftp server!)
[09:46] <stefanlsd> heh. it asked me if i accept the new key, i accepted and same error.   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63170/
[09:46] <spiv> mwhudson: noice
[09:46] <mwhudson> oh um
[09:47] <mwhudson> i bet the codehosting user on the server has a key for vostok aka bazaar.launchpad.net in it's ~/.ssh
[09:47] <mwhudson> hm
[09:47] <mwhudson> but i don't think the key changed recently
[09:47] <mwhudson> o/ never mind o/
[09:47] <spiv> Curiously, I just get 'bzrlib.errors.NotBranchError: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefanlsd/mplayer/hardy/"' when I try to open that branch the same way stefanlsd did (at a Python prompt).
[09:47] <mwhudson> spiv: bzr version?
[09:48] <mwhudson> oh
[09:48] <spiv> mwhudson: 1.7.1 and bzr.dev
[09:48] <mwhudson> spiv: you don't have launchpad.Edit on the branch :)
[09:48] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: i can fix your branch with lftp, want me to do it?
[09:49] <spiv> mwhudson: so my session looks at the mirror rather than the hosted one?
[09:49] <mwhudson> spiv: right
[09:49] <spiv> Ok.
[09:50] <spiv> mwhudson: Also, why has https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~spiv/bzr/bug-270397 been failing to mirror with KeyboardInterrupt?
[09:52] <mwhudson> spiv: it might be to do with a buggy version of squid in the data centre
[09:53] <spiv> mwhudson: joy.
[09:53] <mwhudson> spiv: yes
[09:53] <spiv> mwhudson: does intrepid have a better squid?
[09:54] <spiv> mwhudson: KeyboardInterrupt is a really crummy way to communicate that :P
[09:54] <mwhudson> spiv: a fix is available, which doesn't answer your question
[09:54] <mwhudson> spiv: yes, there's a bug about that somewhere
[09:55] <mwhudson> spiv: i've handed the squid problem to IS, bug them :)
[09:59] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: if you could fix the branch, i would appreciate it
[09:59] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: do you know why i am getting that host verification problem?
[10:00] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: the problems are because the bzr process _on the server_ is trying to open the branch over bzr+ssh
[10:00] <spiv> Because the stacked-on URL starts with bzr+ssh://...
[10:00] <mvo_> hm, when I use the "+contactuser" and click on "send" I get a 403 (Not allowed here)
[10:00] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: k. why would that key of changed then?  possible to delete the known hosts from my user side on the server then?
[10:01] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: it's not a problem on your side, at all!
[10:01] <mwhudson> stderr on the server gets echoed to your terminal
[10:01] <spiv> stefanlsd: no, fixing the server configuration is not possible as a user :)
[10:01] <spiv> stefanlsd: we have admins for a reason ;)
[10:02] <stefanlsd> heh. i realise its server side. so the request is that an admin remove the known hosts from my user on the server so it gets the updated key?  (although still unsure why the key would of changed)
[10:03] <mwhudson> the fix is to stop the server trying to open the branch
[10:03] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: ok. i can do that :)
[10:04] <stefanlsd> although that method used to work for fixing my own branches.
[10:04] <mwhudson> yeah, i'm not sure what's changed
[10:05] <stefanlsd> kk. not that critical. can wait till the next LP release.
[10:05] <mwhudson> spiv: can you think of a way i might be able to see the serverside traceback?
[10:05] <spiv> mwhudson: I would expect there to be log files...
[10:05]  * mwhudson finds a new bug in our sftp server...
[10:06] <mwhudson> spiv: har har
[10:06] <spiv> mwhudson: which traceback are you thinking of, though?
[10:06] <mwhudson> i guess thats a point
[10:06] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: would it be possible for you to fix that branch for me?
[10:06] <mwhudson> spiv: i would like to know the 'traceback' up to the point the error gets sent to the client
[10:06] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: it's just now fixed
[10:07] <stefanlsd> mwhudson: great. thanks :)
[10:07] <spiv> mwhudson: I actually would expect that to be captured into a log file.
[10:07] <stefanlsd> stacked branches are great for us south african low bandwidth people
[10:08] <spiv> mwhudson: I'm not sure which one (maybe ~/.bzr.log?  surely not...), but ISTR seeing a log file like that at some point.
[10:08] <spiv> mwhudson: my memory may be faulty, of course.
[10:08] <mwhudson> stefanlsd: sure, that's the point :)
[10:09] <mwhudson> it's my job to make sure they work smoothly!
[11:04] <doggyyy> i am trying to load this page for more than 10 min, the page say to let you guys know >> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1/files
[11:05]  * Hobbsee tries loading it
[11:06] <Hobbsee> ah yes, it's broken.
[11:06] <beuno> it's a known performance bug with loggerhead on big branches
[11:06] <beuno> we have to restart it now and then
[11:06] <beuno> mwhudson loves doing that
[11:06] <wgrant> cron ftw.
[11:07] <beuno> well, ideally, we find that bug and squash it
[11:07] <beuno> rockstar has started work on it
[11:07] <Hobbsee> oh nice, it got through the queue!
[11:08] <beuno> well, it's been worked on a few times already
[11:08] <beuno> we keep plugin holes, and it still bloats
[11:08] <beuno> it's much better than before
[11:08] <beuno> but there's still something going on
[11:08] <Hobbsee> and someone fixed primero, but then artigas broke.  At least it wasn't on the same arch :P
[11:08] <beuno> starting to suspect it's a bzr issue
[11:08] <wgrant> Hobbsee: I just noticed that... but will gstreamer kill kohnen now?
[11:09] <Hobbsee> wgrant: I hope not.
[11:09] <Hobbsee> oh, wait.
[11:09] <Hobbsee> yep, i'd say it alreayd has.
[11:11] <wgrant> Somebody should tell infinity and get somebody similar to supersede the build.
[11:11] <wgrant> Or I guess he could notice, but it might be too late.
[11:15] <doggyyy> guys the page is sill not loading, i just looking for a copy of mysql-5.1.29 am i looking at the right place ?
[11:17] <mwhudson> doggyyy: it should work now
[11:17] <thekorn> hi, are there any plans to fix staging? - and if so is there a ETA?
[11:18]  * rockstar reads backchat to see what he's supposed to be working on.
[11:19] <wgrant> rockstar: Fix Loggerhead kthxbye.
[11:19] <rockstar> wgrant, "Fix Ubuntu kthxbai" is about the equivalent.
[11:20] <wgrant> Damn.
[11:20] <wgrant> But we're frozen, so I have an excuse.
[11:20] <elmo> gah
[11:20] <rockstar> wgrant, if you make me a machine that can even slow down time, I could get more of it done.  :)
[11:20] <elmo> who keeps marking hppa builders not ok?
[11:20] <Hobbsee> elmo: sorry...but aren't they not?
[11:21] <doggyyy> guys how do i use lauchpad to download mysql 5.1.29 brache ?
[11:27] <doggyyy> okay i found the files at : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1-5.1.29-rc/files << how do i export them ?
[11:28] <elmo> Hobbsee: I guess so; just if I catch them early enough, manually disabling them just means I have to manually enable them
[11:28] <doggyyy> doggyyy, is there a lauchpad client ?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> elmo: right.
[11:28] <Hobbsee> elmo: didn't know you were around, sorry
[11:29] <elmo> yeah, I should have mentioned unwedging it on the channel, sorry about that
[11:29] <wgrant> Given that primero was gone for hours.
[11:29] <mwhudson> doggyyy: you use bazaar
[11:29] <wgrant> At least we're almost up to date now.
[11:29] <rockstar> doggyyy, use bzr
[11:29] <Hobbsee> elmo: you're forgiven.  Just don't decide to set me on fire or something.
[11:29] <mwhudson> doggyyy: this post looks relevant http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/getting-started-with-bazaar-for-mysql.html
[11:30] <wgrant> Hobbsee: But setting you on fire gives us a good reason to push you into a pool.
[11:30] <Hobbsee> wgrant: neither are overly fun...
[11:31] <wgrant> The latter probably makes the former more fun than otherwise, however.
[11:32] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:20] <gord> anyone know when staging.launchpad.net will be back online?
[12:59] <afflux> bug 183685 is getting quite annoying. From comment #94 onwards (last one currently is #344) they are all either: out-of-office responders, unsubscribe requests or people telling other people how to unsubscribe.
[13:01] <wgrant> What particularly confuses me is why these people think sending 'unsubscribe' will work.
[13:01] <wgrant> I haven't seen any list software do that for a long time.
[13:02] <Hobbsee> because you're supposed to be able todo that for mailing lists, iirc.
[13:02] <wgrant> And if they're clueless enough not notice an unsubscribe link or read instructions, they should be too new to know about old list managers.
[13:05] <wgrant> Can we get a DBA to drop their subscriptions, or something?
[13:05] <wgrant> It's getting ridiculous.
[13:05] <wgrant> It has probably made it into the top 5 ever commented bugs by now.
[13:08] <thumper> wgrant: I don't think so
[13:08] <thumper> not top 5
[13:08]  * thumper goes to lunch
[13:08]  * wgrant checks.
[13:09] <wgrant> Mine made it into the top 3 or so with only a few hundred.
[13:13] <wgrant> It's #7 of all time.
[13:13] <wgrant> So not quite #5 yet, you're right.
[13:13] <wgrant> But it'll get there.
[14:08] <asac> hi. could someone please look at OOPS-1031EA73 (me trying to add network-manager team to modemmanager team)
[14:13] <beuno> asac, it seems the invitation has been declined before
[14:13] <matsubara> asac, you seem to be hitting bug 165205
[14:13] <matsubara> asac, oops, not that one
[14:14] <matsubara> nevermind me. it is what beuno said
[14:15] <NCommander> morning elmo
[14:25] <asac> matsubara: and now?
[14:26] <asac> matsubara: i first tried to "add memeber", then i didnt see how to accept that invite
[14:26] <asac> then i saw "add onw of my teams" and used that -> OOPS (1st. dont have the id)
[14:26] <asac> then i found the "accept" decline and declined
[14:26] <asac> and used "add one of my team" -> OOPS again
[14:27] <matsubara> asac, is there an option to see the invitation and change it to accept rather than declined?
[14:31] <asac> matsubara: i can try that. just thought that it might be better to keep it at this state until someone looked into it
[14:33] <asac> hmm ... cant see the old invite anymore
[14:34] <asac> matsubara: ok readding and accepting invite worked
[14:34] <asac> so nm ;)
[14:36] <matsubara> asac, cool.
[16:31] <alga> How do I go about if I want to host my project on LP, but it is already registered by the Registry administrators?
[16:31] <alga> Searched the docs, to no avail.
[17:23] <salgado> mrevell, see alga's question above
[17:23]  * mrevell looks
[17:24] <mrevell> alga: I can help you with that. Send me an email to feedback@launchpad.net with details of the project and something that shows me you're the project owner.
[17:35] <hernad> hi cprov, can wi now test upload
[17:35] <hernad> wi -> we
[17:39] <alga> mrevell: Thanks, I already found a pointer on the Registry admins description and filed a question on launchpad.
[18:03] <BjornW> Hi there. I recently registered a project on Launchpad and I wonder how to use the blueprint feature without access to an external wiki. Is Launchpad going to get a wiki.
[18:04] <BjornW> Sorry, what I meant: Are there plans for a wiki in Launchpad?
[18:28] <thumper> BjornW: kinda, sorta, sometime
[18:31] <thumper> BjornW: well, there will be a public wiki that can be used with Launchpad
[18:36] <matsubara> thumper, there is already!
[18:37] <thumper> matsubara: which one?
[18:37] <thumper> I was actually thinking of wiki functionality built into LP
[18:37] <matsubara> thumper, dev.l.net, isn't that one you're referring?
[18:37] <matsubara> oh
[18:37] <thumper> is that ready for people to use now?
[18:37] <matsubara> afaict, it's open already
[18:38] <thumper> cool
[18:38] <matsubara> thumper, mrevell has been moving some stuff over there
[18:39] <mrevell> thumper: It's there and ready but we're not making much noise about it until beuno's theme is applied to it
[18:50] <LEW21> Hi, how to make empty translation of a string in Launchpad Translations?
[18:51] <jordi> leave it untranslated
[18:51] <LEW21> ok
[19:05] <jerryk> Hey everybody.  If I want to do a query via the Launchpad WADL API to get "all bugs modified since insert-date-here", is that possible in the current form of the API?
[19:06] <jerryk> Been browsing the docs and bug db to try to find evidence for or against this possibility.
[19:08] <BjornW> thumper: so where is this 'underground; wiki to be found ;)
[19:08] <thumper> BjornW: dev.launchpad.net
[19:08] <thumper> BjornW: apparently
[19:09] <thumper> BjornW: it still needs a nice style added to it
[19:10] <BjornW> thumper: aha, it seems to be more geared towards the launchpad devs then?
[19:10] <thumper> BjornW: I'm not sure, I think it is supposed to be a general availability thing
[19:10] <thumper> BjornW: it is very new
[19:11] <BjornW> thumper: ok, if it is to be for the 'general public' and integrated with Launchpad I'm a very happy person :D
[19:11] <thumper> BjornW: I think that is the plan
[19:11] <BjornW> thumper: I don't need it right away, but it would be a great addition for our plans.
[19:12] <BjornW> thumper: Cool, is there a specific place/list to watch for announcements regarding this?
[19:15] <thumper> BjornW: the launchpad-users mailing list, or planet ubuntu, or news.launchpad.net
[19:18] <jerryk> When one does a query in launchpad for "most recently changed" bugs, what's the criterion applied on the server end that qualifies something as "most recently changed?"
[19:25] <thumper> jerryk: probably edits or new comments
[19:26] <jerryk> thumper:   Is there any notion of how that's limited?  i.e. the last at most N for N some number?  The ones updated in the last certain amount of time?
[19:26] <thumper> jerryk: sorry, not my area so I don't know the details
[19:26] <BjornW> thumper: thank you for your help. Much appreciated. Gonna check out the things you mentioned
[19:26] <thumper> ok
[19:26] <thumper> np
[19:27] <jerryk> thumper:   gotcha, thanks.  Any notion of who I might be able to bug about it?
[19:27] <thumper> jerryk: BjornT_ should know
[19:27] <Romario> i've just read the following feature description in quite old launchpad release notes
[19:27] <jerryk> thumper:   thanks.
[19:27] <Romario> "Translation credits are now automatically handled by Launchpad by    listing all contributors in Launchpad along with credits coming from    the PO files"
[19:28] <Romario> where do i find this function at launchpad?
[19:28] <jerryk> BjornT_:   Thumper tells me you're the guy I ought to ask about how queries in teh launchpad API are made/interpreted?
[19:28] <thumper> jerryk: to do with bugs that is
[19:28] <jerryk> thumper:   thanks
[19:28] <thumper> jerryk: had you asked me about branches, I could have helped :)
[19:28] <jerryk> thumper:  I'll note that in case I develop a need to know about branches in the future. :)
[19:29] <thumper> jerryk: you should look, bzr rocks
[19:29] <jerryk> thumper:  Indeed, messing with the launchpad API is my very first exposure to it!
[19:34] <Romario> can anyone please give me a hint?
[20:04] <jerryk> OK!  Obnoxious bug posts / feature requests submitted. :)
[20:33] <jerryk> Is there a one-true-canonical source for the WADL file descripting the Launchpad API?
[20:33] <jerryk> Where should one go to get the latest/greatest?
[21:22] <rockstar> jerryk, the edge server has the latest and greatest.
[21:29] <jerryk> rockstar:  What's Launchpad itself implemented in?
[21:29] <jerryk> rockstar:   and thanks for the info
[21:29] <rockstar> jerryk, what do you mean, what is it implemented in?
[21:30] <jerryk> The server software that implements the Launchpad bug database...  what's *that* written in?
[21:31] <rockstar> Ah.  Zope.
[21:31]  * rockstar notes that Launchpad is more than just bugtracking...  :)
[21:31] <LarstiQ> And that, Python.
[21:32] <rockstar> LarstiQ, yes.  I guess I should mention that for people who wouldn't know that.
[21:33] <LarstiQ> rockstar: I was a bit amazed when Halting State (a novel I'm currently reading) started on the first page with a Zone/Python 3000 programmer
[21:33] <LarstiQ> Zone being a VM for distributed MMORPGs
[21:33] <rockstar> Interesting.  I have not read that.
[21:34] <rockstar> I've been absorbing Gaiman recently.
[21:34] <LarstiQ> rockstar: it extrapolates current technological changes ~10 years into the future.
[21:34] <LarstiQ> rockstar: always a good choice :)
[21:34] <rockstar> So, python 3000 is old skool then?
[21:35] <LarstiQ> rockstar: still actively being recruited for
[21:35] <rockstar> HA!
[21:36] <LarstiQ> rockstar: but when one recruiter replies "Yeah yeah, we believe you have all the Java apis memorized" the character thinks to himselve the recruiter is obviously dated
[21:37] <rockstar> Oh, that's too funny.  I don't know if I'd like it to be that real.  I prefer a high level metaverse, in which code is talked about, but only in generalities.  :)
[21:38] <rockstar> Plus, being able to kill someone in Second Life might make me want to use it.
[21:39] <LarstiQ> rockstar: there hasn't been any actual coding yet (I'm on page 72), I do like the book, after I got used to the style
[21:39] <rockstar> I'll have to check it out.
[21:39]  * rockstar adds it to the backlog
[21:39] <LarstiQ> and mad props for the well investigated Dutch scenes :)
[23:55] <wgrant> Can some person with DB access /please/ remove Fritz Raddatz's structural subscription to malone?
[23:55] <wgrant> He plainly has no clue what he got himself into or how to get out.