[05:24] <smp4488> what is there as far as touch screen friendly audio players?
[05:30] <persia> smp4488, totem isn't too bad.
[12:07] <ian_brasil> dunno whether you follow maemo dev lists but there is a discussion about how maemo can better align with ubuntu and indeed debain http://wiki.maemo.org/Mainstream_Linux_Alignment
[12:07] <ian_brasil> any thoughts andor ideas on this would be great
[12:09] <raslam> can ubuntu mobile work on my O2 Xda
[12:09] <raslam> ?
[12:10] <raslam> my O2 Xda is running WM5 right now... So can I set up ubuntu mobile to run on it?
[12:11] <persia> raslam, Launchpad doesn't have any ARM buildds.  You might try the packages from mojo.handhelds.org
[12:12] <StevenK> Windows Mobile works on Arm?
[12:12] <persia> ian_brasil, Personally, I'd like to see closer alignment.  There's a lot of Maemo packages that aren't in Ubuntu today, and to meet certain use cases xfce components were added.  Having everything run inside the hildon context is probably cleaner.
[12:13] <persia> StevenK, ARM, PPC, and SH only I think.
[12:13]  * StevenK attempts to update his memory
[12:13] <persia> Might be ported to MIPS, but I think that was back when it was called "WinCE"
[12:14] <persia> SH is nearly dead, but Hitachi still buys enough licenses.  ARM is the primary arch.
[12:16] <ian_brasil> persia: interesting...xfce components...i did not know that...is there a list soewhere of these?
[12:17] <persia> At least thunar andmousepad.
[12:27] <raslam> persia: will ARMv5EL from mojo.handhelds.org work on O2 Xda?
[12:28] <raslam> persia: my cpu is OMAP850
[12:30] <persia> raslam, Actually, I don't know which Mojo flavours work on which ARM chips.  I'm too much of a coward to format any of my ARM devices, although I think I've gotten my Zaurus replacement nearly in shape to do the Zaurus next month.
[12:35] <ian_brasil> raslam: i think that might work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture
[13:35] <samjam> easlam: I flashed my O2 XDa with Ranju's WM6 build so that I could use HDSD cards for linux. I've been running titchy-mobile.
[13:35] <samjam> I mean raslam not easlam
[14:16] <lool> ian_brasil: Poke
[14:17] <ian_brasil> lool: hi
[19:49] <ian_brasil> does someone know how to find the cairo version and/or source used on mobile
[20:33] <lool> ian_brasil: It's the same as intrepid; you can either check launchpad, or if you have devscript, rmadison cairlo
[20:34] <lool> cairo
[20:34] <lool>      cairo | 1.8.0-0ubuntu1 |      intrepid | source
[20:34] <lool> *devscripts even
[20:47] <lool> 'night