[00:56] HeLlOeVeRyOnE! [00:56] I was wondering if it's possible to make a default view for Thunar, so I can see image previews before I select them [00:57] I occasioanally use Opera to upload an image and it'd be nice to browse what I'm uploading first [01:00] :( [01:01] No ideas? [01:01] in edit-preferences -view tab you can select to show thumbnails - is that what you're after? [01:07] it doesnt give me those options in the upload file prompt thing [01:09] It doesnt appear to allow any options [01:09] ahh - well that's not thunar then afaik [01:09] apart from show/hide hidden files [01:09] The file manager looks exactly the same but has more options available. [01:09] do you want screencaps? [01:11] I know what you mean but have no idea how to change those settings [01:11] isn't that opera specific? [01:12] Let me check in FF quick... [01:12] Nillerz, what does ctrl+1 do? [01:12] nothing, if you mean while the prompt is open [01:13] ok. then i think you can't even change that. [01:13] heh, firefox adopts GTK settings. [01:13] it looks neato [01:14] anyway, it provides the same prompt, same lack of options [01:15] does thunar have an irc channel? [01:15] or a forum I can ask? [01:15] i suppose not [01:16] it's not even thunar specific [01:16] becuase the file dialogs aren't controlled by it [01:16] afaik at least [01:16] one second let me google afaik [01:17] OH okay [01:17] I thought t was a specific file manager for this job or something. :/ [01:17] nope [01:17] they are just random file dialogs. [01:17] from gtk/some other "kit" [01:18] pretty sure it's gtk because it has the same shortcuts on the left and looks all the same, just less options [01:18] that's possible. [01:18] i don't know opera. [01:18] same as firefox [01:18] except slightly faster and more standards compliant [01:18] ell ff is gtk [01:19] i know *opera*, but i don't know about it's *file dialogs* [01:19] its identical to the one given by firefox. same program [01:19] i was joking about the faster/standards compliant thing [01:20] well i know... i'm a web designer [01:20] me too! :D [01:20] however, can't really give any other advice than name your files better. :P [01:20] damn, that sucks. [01:20] hmm [01:21] I usually just download them as they'r enamed [01:21] not really. [01:21] yeah, i think firefox uses the gtk file dialog. opera uses the qt file dialog... [01:21] you dl and then ul? where's the sense :P [01:21] same dialog [01:21] Heres how I do it: I right click the image, save image as [01:21] Nillerz, i understand. [01:21] then click "okay" on the prompt without bothering to tell Opera where to putit [01:22] or renaming it [01:22] it's because I'm l a z y [01:22] Nillerz, but i don't understand why you'd want to upload something you've just downloaded [01:22] ever hear of an imageboard? [01:22] every post is a repost of a repost of a repost [01:23] ok, that makes even less sense. :P [01:23] Well what if I want to start a thread about boats [01:23] I google the image up, and save it [01:24] then I have to find the file, and upload it to the imageboard [01:24] that leads to suspicious copyright activity. [01:24] file:///home/nillerz/Kings%20Quest%201-6/Kings%20Quest%206 [01:24] oh waaah [01:24] whoops wrong link [01:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageboard [01:25] yes i read it and i *understand* it, just doesn't make any sense [01:25] no one really pays attention to copyrights on images, at least I don't. I'm not rebellious, I just can't find time in my busy day to worry about whether I'm allowed to upload this picture to a website [01:25] what doesnt? [01:26] dl/uling images and making internet feel he's eaten a herd of horses once again [01:27] meh [01:27] that's how the internet works [01:27] deal [01:27] actually, that's the point of the internet [01:27] not really... [01:27] ; [01:27] ;) [01:27] yeah, it is [01:28] The internet was designed as a way to keep a network going and files available if one server goes down [01:28] yes, but if the original server goes down, how will i find the pic in the imageboard? you know, those are not really *actual* mirrors of sites [01:29] right but the file exists there [01:29] and lots of people downloaded the file from there [01:29] so if you need it, you can go to /r/equests and ask for it and if someone has it they'll give it to you [01:29] ... [01:29] post on an imageboard, www.frenchan.com is a good one, and you'll get it [01:30] how does jack the basic jerk know where to ask for an image? [01:30] images.google.com [01:30] it's not for jack the basic jerk it's for anon the average imageboard poster [01:31] a-ha! but you said that internet was made for keeping files available if one server goes down [01:31] what if jack wanted to go to a site where you have ripped a pic off? [01:31] but the server is down. [01:31] then you say that the imageboard is not for jack. [01:31] ohhhh [01:31] jack feels soooo bad [01:32] well fuck jack he's an asshole anyway [01:33] so you don't really think that internet is for keeping files available for *everyone*? [01:33] its for everyone who wants them [01:33] but jack wants them! [01:34] then jack can ask for it on an imageboard or google image search it [01:34] christ, if he wants the picture that much then there are surely about 1000 other people with the file [01:34] so how does he know about imageboards? do you reckon he should ask an image in all the imageboards in the net? [01:34] how does he know about the picture in the first place? [01:34] where can he find these people, if the images are randomly spread in the internet on imageboards? [01:35] chances are most people got it off the imageboard than off the original website [01:35] maybe he had visited the site the other day when it was still up [01:35] what do you want me to do about it? [01:35] so people don't know who to acknowledge the pictures for [01:35] nothing. [01:35] ;) [01:36] i was trying to capture the inner meaning of image boards. [01:36] They are mostly [01:36] Just websites [01:36] Where users [01:36] but didn't really catch it ;) [01:36] Can post pictures [01:36] Of their dicks [01:36] isn't that called a lousy porn site? [01:36] but there's a community aspect [01:36] why would you like to post a picture of a ship in a porn site? [01:37] imageboard communities are usually VERY close when compared to bulletin boards [01:37] actually alot of posts on imageboards are stolen from porn sites [01:37] but the "messages" (read: images) posted are not created by their posters? [01:37] so imageboards = great way to get free porn [01:37] sometimes they are sometimes they arent [01:37] the software doesn't care [01:37] no, but the original creators might do. [01:38] what do you want me to do about it? [01:38] nothing, as i said :) [01:38] It';s a service. [01:38] they provide a place to upload images and talk about images [01:38] you're thinking about it [01:38] WAY too much [01:38] yes. like stealing a candy bar from a shop and then giving it to a boy in the street? [01:39] it's like a service for the boy, isn't it [01:39] its more like making an exact replica of a candy bar and giving it to a kid on the street [01:39] and he doesn't know the candy is stolen, right? [01:39] its not stolen, it's copied [01:40] so, the *copy*rights have been neglected [01:40] yeah, who cares? [01:40] the copyright holders. [01:40] i do. [01:40] then wage a war on the internet [01:40] I'm sure the internet cares [01:40] i've done it. [01:41] I'm sure you lost [01:41] not really. [01:41] the case is yet to be closed [01:41] -_- [01:41] but most of the laws around the world are on my side [01:42] but [01:42] I highly doubt the internet cares [01:42] you';ve inconvenienced them [01:42] congratulations [01:42] the internet cares about you stuffing it full of the same junk food. [01:42] no it doesnt [01:42] yes it does. [01:42] the internet doesn't care about anything [01:42] yes it does. [01:42] it's a series of tubes [01:42] don't hurt the internets feelings [01:42] tubes = incapable of caring [01:43] i actually know many *people* who are called "tube" [01:43] and they care [01:43] then they can bawww over some pixels [01:44] ehm? [01:44] are you saying you'd like stricter enforcement of copyights on imageboards? [01:44] because you're not gonna get it [01:44] the mods aren't going to check for licenses on every file uploaded [01:44] no... not really. [01:44] i was trying to catch the soul of the imageboards [01:44] if you're lucky they'll delete the image if you ask nicely but apart from that it's not a big deal [01:45] it's rotten. [01:45] The soul of the imageboards [01:45] it's for pictures. [01:45] yes, not blues or jazz. soul. [01:45] this better be an intricate troll [01:45] I'll be disappointed if it's not [01:45] sure it is. [01:45] oh okay [01:46] phew [01:46] ;) [01:46] but seriously, we as open source folks should even try to care about copyrights. [01:47] I'm surprised you weren't raped by a bunch of GNU geeks over that candy bar statement [01:47] i've decided to go the "right way". sometimes it restricts me from doing a lot of things, but it has it's own advantages [01:47] why would i? i'm one of them;) [01:48] I use Opera. I just do what is convenient [01:48] my "tubes" are already sweeped. [01:48] ehm. [01:48] If I were a GNU open source person at heart I'd use Firefox [01:48] but I straight up think Firefox sucks, so I use Opera [01:48] a proprietary web browser [01:48] i mean, my firewall doesn't let anything leftovers pass it [01:49] I did an experiment once [01:49] why aren't you one? [01:49] there is alternatives to firefox also [01:49] I used an XP machine for about 3 months, no firewall, no antivirus and I scanned before a reformat [01:49] I had nothing but tracker cookies [01:49] Because I don't feel like it. [01:49] I could convert all my music to .ogg but I don't want to [01:49] may i ask why are you using xubuntu then? [01:50] just curious. [01:50] Opera is, in my opinion, the best web browser ever [01:50] because it's free and fast and I need the *nix experience [01:50] for what? [01:50] my chosen career path in general [01:50] plus I like being a pretentious linux user [01:50] if you're not going to use unix, why learn it? [01:50] "Get out of here, win-fag" [01:50] I do, I am a web dev [01:51] you don't have to know really anything about unix to be a web dev [01:51] no but ssh is fun [01:51] you can ssh in windows also [01:51] but only if you know what the hell you're doing [01:51] I like the GTK themes too [01:51] everything is all dark and stuff [01:52] you can have a m$ web server ;) [01:52] also not having to find cracks for all my software is nice [01:52] but it's not as fast and most people dont [01:52] and it const monies [01:52] and gtk works on windows just fine [01:52] well you could *by* the software [01:52] right but not everything is gtk in windows [01:52] only gtk apps [01:52] *buy [01:52] linux, almost everything is gtk [01:52] Nillerz: neither on linux [01:53] in kde, not many things are gtk [01:53] my pidgin matches my panels [01:53] not even 10% [01:53] I use xubuntu though so many things are [01:53] oh. tell us how the match ended then. [01:53] depends a lot on the software installed [01:53] My instant messenger matches my music player matches my image editor matches my desktop panels [01:53] knome: match? [01:53] TheSheep, match, you know, a football match [01:53] ;) [01:53] same color [01:53] knome: you mean soccer? [01:54] TheSheep, which ever. [01:54] 'OCKEY! [01:54] they are *matches* ;) [01:54] also, you can light candle up with a match [01:54] you [01:54] are [01:54] * TheSheep puts knome out of his misery with a match [01:54] CLEVER! [01:54] Actually I'm on xubuntu mostly for the pretentious factor [01:55] aren't we a little offtopic? [01:55] I can be pretentious about using Linux, but some people use Ubuntu [01:55] no, we are at #xubuntu [01:55] Nillerz: yeah we can tell [01:55] but I can always be pretentious about using XFCE instead of Gnome [01:55] because gnome is teh sux [01:55] riiight [01:55] no! left. [01:56] definitely left. [01:56] a lot better. [01:56] HAHAHA OH GOD DO YOU DO STANDUP? [01:56] Nillerz: any thoughts on nextstep? :) [01:56] PUN MASTER! [01:56] not really [01:56] none. [01:56] none at all [01:56] i usually sitdown when ircing [01:56] BUH DUM PISH! [01:57] this is getting really silly, lets move to ot [01:57] overtime? [01:57] unfunny [01:57] no, funny [01:58] stop being contrary for the hell of it [01:58] nah. [01:59] Nillerz: we are having a party without you on #xubuntu-offtopic :) [02:26] Hello, I'm not sure quite what to do. I installed xubuntu on an old P3 machine. Everything seemed ok for awhile, but then the network card started to work sporadically, then just quit. Since it was an old network card, I just ordered a new one. Installed it, it worked for maybe 12 hours without any problem, then just stopped working same as the last one. [02:27] So I would like to know the next step I should take. [02:27] is there anything obvious that you might have done after it doesn't work anymore? [02:28] after it stopped working? [02:28] eh, before :) [02:28] sorry, it's 4am here... [02:28] Well, I don't know if some of the latest updates that were installed could have broken something, but I doubt it. [02:28] For one, [02:29] The second card I was using worked for awhile. [02:29] the first thing what comes in to my mind is that is your dhcp server working correctly [02:29] try issuing "sudo dhclient" on terminal and see if that helps [02:29] I think that someone else mentioned that, but all my other computers on the network have never had any troubles [02:30] did you try it? [02:30] well, actually this pc is upstairs, and I can't connect to it. [02:30] but I can go up there and try [02:30] it'd help the troubleshooting [02:30] lol [02:30] I wonder what you get when you run ifconfig [02:31] What the ip is. [02:31] In theory if you type in ifconfig, and the ip is still there it's not the network card. And something as simple as sudo /etc/init.d/network restart could fix it. [02:32] I'd also check the /etc/resolv.conf and make sure it has the right dns servers in it. [02:32] * Blatz is bringing the pc downstairs and setting it up [02:33] O [02:33] \o/ [02:33] yay for the superman [02:33] Speaking of problems .. time to reboot the modem. [02:35] ifconfig and set route ? [02:50] ok, when I run "sudo dhclient" I get No DHCPOFFERS recieved [02:50] No Working leasese in persistent database - sleeping. [02:50] k... [02:51] What am I looking for in ifconfig? [02:51] hey anybody there [02:51] im trying to figure out how to install a custom logon screen for xubuntu [02:51] !upstart | omfgitsashark [02:51] omfgitsashark: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [02:51] wrong [02:51] !gdm [02:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm [02:52] woot [02:52] !usplash | omfgitsashark [02:52] omfgitsashark: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork [02:52] this is the logon screene right... like i know for themes i had to make a .thmes file and it worked [02:53] omfgitsashark: for gdm just go to settings->login window and drag-and-drop the archive with theme there [02:53] Whats interesting, even though I can't access the internet, xubuntu tells me there are x number of updates [02:53] ok hold on let me take alook [02:54] Blatz, it most possibly remembers that from the last time it was connected. [02:54] ok [02:54] Ok, I changed my static address I set to dhcp [02:55] but that did nothing. [02:56] any other thoughts? [02:57] when I try "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" says command not found [03:03] humm, any other suggestions? [03:03] hum hum [03:03] don't know [03:03] :( [03:03] ok [03:04] i suppose you have tried bootin [03:04] +g [03:04] yes yes [03:04] +g? [03:04] bootin+g=booting [03:04] oh, I read re-booting [03:04] lol, okl [03:04] -l [03:05] so, what is the card? [03:05] brand/model [03:05] * Blatz looks around for the box [03:05] Zonet Zen3200 [03:06] Should be this product : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833130107 === Blatz is now known as Datz [03:07] when I try "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" says command not found - would make using the network hard [03:07] I see [03:08] how do you reinstall networking tho? [03:09] I don't understand? [03:10] my bad - it is sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart - not network restart [03:10] ah, thanks [03:12] ok, well restarting networking didn't seem to do the trick, thanks anyway. [03:16] This problem couldn't be caused by a bad driver? [03:16] Or incompatible one? === anon is now known as bloodboy [06:04] hey, how can I set nautilus as the default file manager instead of thunar? [07:26] need help guys i am trying to play dvd on my xubuntu system but it wont play [07:27] installed the libdvdcss2 and wn32codecs [07:27] i even installed vlc player but it still doesnt work [07:28] any suggestions [07:29] !doesn't work [07:29] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [07:29] nonie_: for example, what's the message? [07:29] when i load the dvd it should load an icon to the desktop but it does not [07:30] does 'mount /dev/cdrom' do something? [07:30] in terminal [07:30] i go to vlc media player and play the dvd, it reads the dvd but after that it gives me Audio cd- track1 display on the lower right. [07:31] i will try it now. [07:33] gives me this error [07:33] mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [07:35] but if i load my xubuntu cd it shows the data files and the dvd icon appears on the desktop [07:36] /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 - is what is in my /etc/fstab for the cd if it helps === wormsxulla__ is now known as wormsxulla [11:21] How do you give a list of packages from a file for apt-get? [11:24] jarnos: cat file.txt | xargs apt-get ... [11:27] TheSheep: thanks [11:27] woot [12:15] hello vidd [12:16] hello knome [12:31] hello! [12:32] !olleh [12:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about olleh [12:32] hello sancas [12:35] I just installed and nothing more to update and upgrade upgrade install 3 more packages and theme [12:35] of xubuntuestudio icon and the subject normal but I am going too slow on pc [12:36] I have 1GB RAM with an Intel Centrino Duo processor [12:36] so you did a clean install, installed 3 packages, a theme and xubuntu studio (whatever that is) and you are having lag issues? [12:37] vidd, i think he means !ubuntustudio [12:37] meh, http://ubuntustudio.org/ [12:37] I have reviewed the monitor's sitema and tells me I'm q occupied the processor [12:38] !ubuntustudio [12:38] UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org [12:38] sancas, im really not following.... [12:38] vidd, i think you could install that much the way of xubuntu-desktop [12:39] +same *of=than [12:39] I have a question regarding gnome screensaver. Is it ok to uninstall it on Xubuntu 8.04? [12:39] what item does system monitor show using the most cpu? [12:39] chewit, sure. [12:39] will not cause any issues [12:40] I'm trying to streamline my xubuntu install. [12:40] chewit, if having no screensaver is not an issue for you...then no...no issues [12:40] ok, gd. i currently just have a blank screen. [12:40] however, i heard that gnome screensaver affects you locking your computer [12:40] Sorry but I'm not speak english and dont understand [12:41] I have use google for comunicate with yous [12:41]