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| juliux | @schedule berlin | 09:36 |
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| ubottu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 28 Oct 12:00: Asia Oceania Membership Board | 28 Oct 17:00: Server Team | 28 Oct 18:00: Kernel Team | 28 Oct 20:00: EMEA Membership Board | 29 Oct 18:00: QA Team | 29 Oct 23:00: Platform Team | 09:36 |
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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia Oceania Membership Board Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 28 Oct 16:00: Server Team | 28 Oct 17:00: Kernel Team | 28 Oct 19:00: EMEA Membership Board | 29 Oct 17:00: QA Team | 29 Oct 22:00: Platform Team | ||
| elkbuntu | ahoi | 10:53 |
| TheMuso | Greetings. | 10:54 |
| persia | Good evening. | 10:54 |
| amachu | Good evening | 10:54 |
| TheMuso | No applicants on the agenda... | 10:54 |
| amachu | yep.. | 10:54 |
| elkbuntu | i feel bad for being happy about that :Þ | 10:55 |
| elkbuntu | especially since release time is coming up, and there's plenty of people doing awesome work | 10:55 |
| amachu | and zakame, belutz not turning up for quite some time! | 10:56 |
| persia | Did you ever hear back from them regarding the possible time change? | 10:57 |
| elkbuntu | i havent seen a peep on the list | 10:57 |
| elkbuntu | they probably filter the list mail off, and are more likely to look at actual inbox | 10:57 |
| amachu | persia: No | 10:58 |
| amachu | lifeless: there? | 10:59 |
| persia | Hrm. I think the rest of us said positive things about it (although it's of especial interest to all of you because of the time). | 10:59 |
| lifeless | hi | 11:00 |
| amachu | lifeless: Hey! glad... | 11:01 |
| amachu | we are five today, and no one turning up... | 11:01 |
| lifeless | easy meeting then | 11:02 |
| lifeless | week after next I can't be here | 11:02 |
| amachu | good.. I will take it up with the community council next time for sure on two aspects.. | 11:02 |
| amachu | 1) Adding two more members to the Board | 11:02 |
| amachu | 2) Requesting them to consider two-three months of contribution is enough for considering memberships | 11:03 |
| amachu | and the time factor, We need to decide among ourselves, May be we will wait till new members arrive before deciding on that, assuming CC approves it | 11:04 |
| amachu | lifeless: Ok | 11:04 |
| amachu | is that fine with every one? | 11:05 |
| persia | amachu, So we're asking for replacements for zakame/belutz? Doesn't make sense to make the team larger unless we propose the time change. | 11:05 |
| lifeless | I don't know about 2) | 11:05 |
| lifeless | 1) makes sense if we're going to vary the times more | 11:05 |
| lifeless | its 10pm here now, any .nz folk its midnight for | 11:06 |
| amachu | persia: no, not replacements for them, we were discussing about having nine on board three from each zone | 11:06 |
| persia | amachu, That only makes sense if we do the time split. | 11:07 |
| amachu | We need to time split, but I am only considering who the new members would and what would be their opinions.. | 11:08 |
| persia | huh? | 11:09 |
| persia | Other boards are seven. Why do we need nine? | 11:09 |
| persia | Answer: Because we want to split the time. | 11:09 |
| amachu | persia: yes.. | 11:09 |
| persia | So, the time split and the request for two additional members (7-9) are the *same* request. | 11:10 |
| persia | Asking for going from 5 active to 7 active is a different question. | 11:10 |
| amachu | yes.. | 11:10 |
| amachu | time split to be decided among ourselves, and approval from CC for two more members | 11:10 |
| amachu | I will put forth we have decided to split time and hence we need two more on board.. | 11:11 |
| elkbuntu | i'd recommend making real contact with the guys before dethroning them. | 11:11 |
| TheMuso | I agree. | 11:11 |
| amachu | elkbuntu: thats true | 11:11 |
| persia | I agree that real contact is important. | 11:12 |
| lifeless | amachu: I think persia's point is that when we split the time we become de facto a split subboard | 11:12 |
| lifeless | so its not so much adding members as reforming into smaller boards | 11:12 |
| persia | I also think we need CC approval for the time split, rather than just agreeing between ourselves. | 11:12 |
| persia | lifeless, Well, kinda. I'm expecting three members to sit on both (UTC +8,+9), and three members from ~10-+12, and three members from +5:30 - +7) to bring us to quota each week. | 11:13 |
| elkbuntu | agreed. i think we need to put ourselves on the agenda for the next 3rd week/CC clash. | 11:13 |
| persia | I have no objections to a full split, but that's different. | 11:13 |
| amachu | persia: CCs approval for time split? | 11:14 |
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| persia | amachu, I'd think so : it's a big change from how we were asked to organise. | 11:15 |
| amachu | definitely We will be putting forth that to the CC and that as the reason for new Board members.. | 11:16 |
| persia | OK. We still need to track down our lost sheep though. I'm especially surprised by Belutz who was so active at the start. | 11:17 |
| TheMuso | It would be nice if they could state whether they intend to continue helping with the board. | 11:18 |
| TheMuso | s/could/would/ | 11:18 |
| amachu | we need, may be I will mail them personally this time | 11:18 |
| persia | That sounds like a good plan. | 11:19 |
| persia | If that doesn't work, perhaps we can try to catch them on IRC individually (if anyone has a good script to track people). | 11:19 |
| TheMuso | Send them memos? | 11:19 |
| TheMuso | Or whatever they are called? | 11:19 |
| TheMuso | That is if they have registered with freenode., | 11:20 |
| persia | I was thinking personal conversations, as that's more reliable. | 11:20 |
| TheMuso | True. | 11:20 |
| amachu | I will mail them to take their opinions | 11:20 |
| persia | I think there is a tool that can track when people join, and open chat, but I'm not familiar enough with IRC. | 11:20 |
| elkbuntu | persia, or we could just steal someone's private jet and hunt them in person | 11:20 |
| persia | I also think mail is the better first step, and IRC stalking should only be done if mail fails. | 11:20 |
| persia | elkbuntu, That's lower on the list. I was thinking telephone before personal vist. | 11:21 |
| persia | ML post, personal email, IRC, telephone call, physcial visit : in rough order of decreasing invasiveness. | 11:21 |
| lifeless | nothing personal about smart bombs | 11:21 |
| elkbuntu | i figured the plane would bump it up in priority | 11:21 |
| persia | lifeless, You've clearly not investigated the options available from miniaturisation : smaller planes, smaller bombs, more personal. | 11:23 |
| amachu | :) | 11:24 |
| amachu | so is that all for the week? | 11:24 |
| * persia has no additional agenda items | 11:25 | |
| * TheMuso has no agenda items. | 11:25 | |
| amachu | lifeless & elkbuntu ? | 11:25 |
| lifeless | I have no agenda | 11:26 |
| elkbuntu | i think so | 11:26 |
| amachu | Thank you all.. | 11:28 |
| TheMuso | Thanks. | 11:28 |
| amachu | We will have our next meeting on 04 Nov 08, Will keep the mailing list updated on other happenings | 11:29 |
| persia | See you all then. | 11:30 |
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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 28 Oct 16:00: Server Team | 28 Oct 17:00: Kernel Team | 28 Oct 19:00: EMEA Membership Board | 29 Oct 17:00: QA Team | 29 Oct 22:00: Platform Team | 30 Oct 12:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | ||
| LjL | boredandblogging: hi | 13:34 |
| boredandblogging | LjL: hi | 13:34 |
| LjL | boredandblogging: can you explain to me what the current status of the events calendar is in more detail? namely, what are the places one can get a feed | 13:35 |
| boredandblogging | LjL: there are two feeds being maintained at the moment | 13:35 |
| boredandblogging | the fridge feed and google calendar feed | 13:36 |
| boredandblogging | we would like the bot to read the google feed | 13:36 |
| boredandblogging | the issue is that the bot doesn't properly deal with repeating events in the calendar | 13:37 |
| boredandblogging | so if a meeting is booked for every Tuesday at 9am | 13:37 |
| boredandblogging | it will only show the first Tuesday | 13:38 |
| boredandblogging | and none of the others | 13:38 |
| LjL | boredandblogging: you mean in the topic, or in @schedule, or everywhere...? | 13:42 |
| LjL | boredandblogging: and what's the URL to the google calendar anyway? | 13:45 |
| boredandblogging | LjL: yeah, everywhere | 13:46 |
| boredandblogging | LjL: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/j5q85mmi6ujvjtii5s1n3li5io%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics | 13:49 |
| LjL | boredandblogging: so wait, ubottu right now is reading the Fridge iCal feed (not the Google feed, although it's also in iCal format), right? *but* even if it were reading the Google feed, repeating events wouldn't be handled properly, is that right too? | 14:00 |
| persia | LjL, That's a correct summary. | 14:15 |
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| LjL | persia, boredandblogging: sorry that i'm just catching up, but... while the normal ubottu code simply can't parse the Google Calendar file at all (it bails out with an error), it was pretty trivial to fix that. now i don't know if it's outputting the right stuff, but it's not failing at least - was that already done before? | 14:33 |
| persia | LjL, There's a patch floating about for that. The problem is the function to determine the next N meetings, or compare the current time to see if it is a meeting. | 14:34 |
| persia | The current code can tell that something is recurring, but since Google only sends it once, and expects the client to be able to determine the recurrance, it doesn't know when it will happen again. | 14:35 |
| LjL | persia: wait, you're saying that after a while, the recurring event simply won't be in the ical feed anymore, and the client is expected to have it cached from before? | 14:38 |
| persia | LjL: No, I'm saying that the iCal feed has the date of the first occurance and the rules to determine follow-up occurances, rather than one entry per occurance. | 14:39 |
| LjL | persia: ah ok, that's not *so* bad then | 14:39 |
| persia | The current code can't handle the calculations to determine when the event recurs. | 14:39 |
| persia | No, it's just the need for a recurrance processing module to be written. Should be a few days work for someone with enough python knowledge. | 14:39 |
| LjL | persia: from the samples i see in the current calendary, the "BYDAY" rule looks like the most irritating to implement | 14:41 |
| LjL | and as far as i can see, it's currently parsed by totally ignored | 14:42 |
| persia | LjL, Yeah, that's about the state of things. Just needs someone to dig into it. | 14:42 |
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| LjL | persia: do you know what BYDAY=-1SU means? last sunday of the month? | 14:44 |
| persia | I have no idea, but that seems a reasonable guess. | 14:44 |
| * mathiaz waves | 14:59 | |
| nijaba | o/ | 14:59 |
| zul | hello | 14:59 |
| sommer | yo | 14:59 |
| mathiaz | how is everyone doing? | 15:00 |
| zul | cold | 15:00 |
| * mathiaz hands a pile of mentos to zul | 15:01 | |
| zul | wohoo..... | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | all right - let's get this started | 15:02 |
| mathiaz | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is mathiaz. | 15:03 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | last week's minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20081021 | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | I don't see any outstanding actions from last weeks meeting. | 15:04 |
| nealmcb | o/ | 15:04 |
| mathiaz | someone wants to add something wrt to the topics from last week meeting? | 15:04 |
| mathiaz | seems like not. let's move on | 15:05 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Final blockers. | 15:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Final blockers. | 15:05 |
| mathiaz | So we're testing the -server iso candidates for Final. | 15:05 |
| mathiaz | Anyone came accross a bug that should be noted in the release notes? | 15:06 |
| nijaba | mathiaz: not sure what's the status on iscsi | 15:06 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] iscsi in intrepid | 15:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: iscsi in intrepid | 15:06 |
| mathiaz | so we've decided to not update iscsi for release | 15:07 |
| mathiaz | intrepid will ship with an iscsi that doesn't support more than one iscsi target | 15:07 |
| mathiaz | everything is tracked in bug 289470 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289470 in open-iscsi "open-iscsi user-space does not match kernel module version" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289470 | 15:08 |
| mathiaz | there will be a note added to the release notes | 15:09 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: do you have other questions? | 15:10 |
| nijaba | mathiaz: nope, that's pretty clear | 15:10 |
| mathiaz | so the plan is to fix iscsi in an SRU | 15:10 |
| mathiaz | anything else to mention with regards to potential blockers for release? | 15:11 |
| mathiaz | seems like not. | 15:12 |
| mathiaz | so release! | 15:12 |
| sommer | yay | 15:12 |
| mathiaz | well - let's do some testing first :D | 15:13 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: around? | 15:13 |
| mathiaz | hm. well | 15:14 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Server FAQ | 15:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server FAQ | 15:14 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: ^^? | 15:14 |
| nijaba | yes, I have noticed that the server FAQ on help.u.c is quite outdated | 15:15 |
| mathiaz | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq | 15:15 |
| nijaba | I was wondering if someone would enjoy helping me updtaing it | 15:15 |
| sommer | sure | 15:16 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: do you think about updating the list of questions? | 15:17 |
| nijaba | sommer: I think we should start listing what are the appropriate questions | 15:17 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: or just updating the answer | 15:17 |
| nijaba | and then work on the answers | 15:17 |
| sommer | nijaba: ya, some of those are pretty old | 15:17 |
| nijaba | anyone is welcome to add questions | 15:17 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: sorry, my connectivity is been intermittent this morning | 15:17 |
| nealmcb | do you see two faqs, a new one for hardy? | 15:18 |
| nijaba | nealmcb: nope, only one for server | 15:18 |
| nealmcb | and cover both dapper and hardy? | 15:18 |
| nijaba | yep | 15:19 |
| nealmcb | yeah it makes sense to have it all on one page | 15:19 |
| mathiaz | it seems that most questions are fairly generic and not tied to a specific release | 15:20 |
| nijaba | so action for next week: prepare questions | 15:20 |
| mathiaz | who would like to do that? | 15:20 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: sommer ? | 15:20 |
| sommer | sure, I can put a list together | 15:21 |
| nijaba | anyone is welcome, but sommer and I seem to have commited to it. I think we can just go ahead and add at the bottom of the cirrent page | 15:21 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] sommer and nijaba to review the list of questions to be included in the Server FAQ | 15:22 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: sommer and nijaba to review the list of questions to be included in the Server FAQ | 15:22 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: anything else? | 15:22 |
| nijaba | not on this subject | 15:22 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Ubuntu "easy server" for the home user | 15:23 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Ubuntu "easy server" for the home user | 15:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ^^? | 15:23 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: ^^? | 15:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: this is from a user who pinged me privately | 15:23 |
| kirkland | xivulon: are you around? | 15:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: evidently not .... | 15:24 |
| mathiaz | ok. | 15:24 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: sorry. | 15:24 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: do you want to postpone it to next week? | 15:25 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: he claimed to have some ideas as to making the server easier to use for the home user | 15:25 |
| nijaba | might be a DST issue ? | 15:25 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: yes, let's postpone one week | 15:25 |
| mathiaz | ok | 15:25 |
| persia | I spoke with him about that for a bit at the last UDS : he has a bunch of ideas on the topic. | 15:26 |
| mathiaz | persia: will he attend UDS? | 15:26 |
| nealmcb | some of the history of this topic is at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/68/ | 15:26 |
| * persia tries to find the jaunty registration page | 15:26 | |
| nealmcb | Idea #68: GUI configuration front end for common services | 15:27 |
| persia | mathiaz, He's registered at https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-jaunty so I suspect so. | 15:27 |
| * nealmcb wonders if ubottu should help with brainstorms like with bugs | 15:27 | |
| mathiaz | persia: great. | 15:28 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Open Discussion | 15:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open Discussion | 15:28 |
| mathiaz | anything to add? | 15:28 |
| nijaba | is there an Ibex tshirt? | 15:29 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: don't know | 15:29 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: you plan to make one? | 15:30 |
| nijaba | mathiaz: you should go ask Kat, this is so IMPORTANT ;) | 15:30 |
| * kirkland notes that the 'Frozen Bubble' joke at the last server meeting made the news | 15:31 | |
| * zul keeps quiet | 15:31 | |
| kirkland | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue114#Server Team Meeting October 21st, 2008 | 15:31 |
| kirkland | well that didn't paste well | 15:32 |
| Koon | kirkland: Frozen Bubble is *not* a joke, that's serious | 15:32 |
| persia | You all do know that Frozen Bubble is blamed for delaying Sarge, and Sarge delays were oft discussed in the post "There will be an Ubuntu" discussions, right? | 15:32 |
| kirkland | persia: yes, kees has told the story | 15:33 |
| persia | Do take care with the level of your addictions : it's free to start, and makes you feel good, but ... | 15:33 |
| nealmcb | persia: thanks for finally shedding some light on this :) | 15:34 |
| nijaba | persia: smoker do know about addictions ;) | 15:34 |
| xivulon | hi guys just back | 15:36 |
| mathiaz | Is there any action to take wrt to Frozen Bubble? | 15:36 |
| xivulon | still in time? was in another meeting | 15:36 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: sure | 15:37 |
| xivulon | the other day I was discussing with kirkland and superm1 whether there was any interest in a ubuntu-home-server | 15:38 |
| xivulon | basically a dumbed down web interface for home users, possibly on the back of ubuntu-easy-business-server | 15:39 |
| xivulon | I had drafted a very basic spec some time ago' on the subject (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZeroConfServer) | 15:40 |
| xivulon | but then was taken by wubi development and have dropped the idea | 15:41 |
| nealmcb | xivulon: have you seen http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/68/ Idea #68: GUI configuration front end for common services | 15:41 |
| xivulon | not yet | 15:42 |
| nealmcb | there has been strong interest expressed in this sort of thing for a long time, and ebox and Augeas are helping us close in on it, but still it is taking a long time.... | 15:43 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: there is also a spec written by ScottK - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-flavors | 15:43 |
| xivulon | yes something like that, my idea was to do it as simple as possible | 15:43 |
| xivulon | for instance home users do not need groups | 15:43 |
| xivulon | all permissions should be set directly for users | 15:44 |
| xivulon | and there are other services of interest to home users that are not necessarily relevant for businesses | 15:44 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: like nealmcb said, the topics has already been discussed in former UDS. | 15:44 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: as it seems you're coming the next one, we'll probably have some time to sit down and discuss this topic a bit | 15:44 |
| nealmcb | xivulon: thanks for the zeroconfserver spec - I'll look at it and agree that a very simple interface for the home would also be great | 15:45 |
| nealmcb | of course sometimes UI simplicity is hard to achieve :) | 15:45 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: writting a spec is a good step | 15:45 |
| xivulon | basic concept is to provide a simple interface for common tasks, advanced users can also tweak /etc settings | 15:46 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: I'd focus on the user cases and specify who is the target user | 15:46 |
| xivulon | the interface should not "break down" if more advanced configrations are used | 15:46 |
| Koon | xivulon: that's the tricky part. | 15:46 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: agreed. These concerns have already been raised and no perfect solution haven't been found yet. | 15:47 |
| xivulon | I will revamp the spec a bit, was a couple of years ago' and just a quick draft | 15:47 |
| xivulon | we will then take it from there | 15:47 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: sounds like a good plan to me. | 15:47 |
| nealmcb | I'd think that home users would far rather move on to something like ebox than editing in /etc.... | 15:47 |
| nealmcb | but do look at augeas.... | 15:48 |
| mathiaz | allright - anything else on this subject? | 15:48 |
| mathiaz | xivulon: ? | 15:48 |
| raphink | nealmcb: is augeas already used in ebox? | 15:48 |
| nealmcb | xivulon: thanks again - I'm glad to have more folks thinking about this! | 15:49 |
| nealmcb | raphink: not yet as far as I know, but there have been discussions | 15:49 |
| raphink | nealmcb: ok thanks | 15:49 |
| nealmcb | are ebox folks coming to uds? | 15:49 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: I don't know | 15:50 |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Server Team Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 28 Oct 17:00: Kernel Team | 28 Oct 19:00: EMEA Membership Board | 29 Oct 17:00: QA Team | 29 Oct 22:00: Platform Team | 30 Oct 12:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | ||
| mathiaz | allright - anything else to add? | 15:50 |
| mathiaz | We're testing the final isos - help is welcome - #ubuntu-testing is the place to hang out. | 15:51 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time | 15:52 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time | 15:52 |
| mathiaz | next week, same place, same time? | 15:52 |
| nijaba | 16UTC to adapt to DST? | 15:52 |
| nijaba | DST will be effective in the US at that time IIUC | 15:52 |
| sommer | yay for DST | 15:53 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: seems like a good idea | 15:53 |
| mathiaz | so next week, 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting? | 15:54 |
| nijaba | +1 | 15:54 |
| Koon | +1 | 15:54 |
| Koon | +0 rather, I don't really mind either way | 15:55 |
| sommer | +1 for me | 15:55 |
| mathiaz | well - let's switch to 16:00 UTC so that the meeting doesn't move. | 15:55 |
| mathiaz | dendrobates: hi :) | 15:55 |
| dendrobates | stupid time change. | 15:55 |
| mathiaz | dendrobates: you wanted to add something? | 15:55 |
| dendrobates | nope | 15:56 |
| mathiaz | ok great | 15:56 |
| === lieb is now known as lieb_ | ||
| mathiaz | see you all next week, same place at 16:00UTC | 15:56 |
| persia | Note that the meeting does change for some people if you change the time. For some people it even moves from the not unreasonable 1am to the very awkward 3am. | 15:56 |
| === lieb_ is now known as lieb_commute | ||
| persia | (because of recent corresponding opposite DST correction) | 15:57 |
| mathiaz | persia: hm... are you refering to the australians? | 15:57 |
| persia | For 3am, yes. | 15:57 |
| persia | For me, you're just moving it from 0:00 to 1:00, but I mostly just watch, without that much to add. | 15:57 |
| mathiaz | persia: hm - right. However I haven't seen many australians active in the server team meeting for the last 3/4 months now | 15:58 |
| persia | Well, it was 1:00 even then :) | 15:58 |
| persia | Anyway, I'm just providing information, rather than saying it's a bad time. | 15:58 |
| mathiaz | ok. | 15:59 |
| mathiaz | so let's go back to iso testing | 15:59 |
| nealmcb | will dst really change next week? I thought it was delayed | 15:59 |
| kirkland | o/ | 15:59 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: according to timeanddate.com yes | 16:00 |
| nealmcb | hmm - I guess not - ok | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | ok - happy iso testing! | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | see ya all next week! | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:00. | 16:00 |
| sommer | later all | 16:00 |
| bryce | morning | 16:08 |
| juliux | @schedule berlin | 16:09 |
| ubottu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: Current meeting: Server Team 28 Oct 18:00: Kernel Team | 28 Oct 20:00: EMEA Membership Board | 29 Oct 18:00: QA Team | 29 Oct 23:00: Platform Team | 30 Oct 13:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 16:09 |
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| pgraner | Hello everyone... time for the kernel team weekly meeting | 17:01 |
| pgraner | #startmeeting | 17:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:01. The chair is pgraner. | 17:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:01 |
| * lieb wakes up | 17:01 | |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Welcome new members | 17:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Welcome new members | 17:01 |
| pgraner | I'd like to welcome Steve Conklin as the newest member of the kernel team. Steve is joining us from HP. | 17:02 |
| BenC | sconklin: Welcome! | 17:02 |
| sconklin | hi all! | 17:02 |
| smb_tp | schily, Welcome +1 | 17:03 |
| rtg | dude | 17:03 |
| BenC | sweet | 17:03 |
| cking | sconklin: welcome! | 17:03 |
| pgraner | Steve will be working with rtg and smb_tp on stable maint for awhile. | 17:03 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Intrepid Status | 17:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Intrepid Status | 17:04 |
| pgraner | So far the release is looking very good. No major issues or breakdowns. We are on schedule. About to hit test cycles | 17:04 |
| pgraner | Many of the team are in London today in the war room and its very calm :-) | 17:05 |
| pgraner | We will keep our fingers crossed and are looking forward to the release party on Thurs. evening. | 17:05 |
| * BenC wishes he had planned to be in london this week | 17:05 | |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Intrepid Updates | 17:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Intrepid Updates | 17:06 |
| pgraner | With Intrepid winding down we need to address all the bugs that didn't make the release. | 17:06 |
| pgraner | They are tagged with "intrepid-updates' | 17:06 |
| rtg | pgraner: there is at least one oops in i4965 w/802.11n that needs some TLC | 17:07 |
| pgraner | If you have any bugs (i.e. the Dell double key bug) that need to go out we need to get them tagged ASAP. | 17:07 |
| pgraner | I'd like to get everyone focused on getting those bug knocked out ASAP. | 17:07 |
| pgraner | The current list is at: | 17:08 |
| pgraner | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.milestone%3Alist=2134&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=& | 17:08 |
| pgraner | field.tags_combinator=ANY | 17:08 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.milestone%3Alist=2134&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=& | 17:08 |
| pgraner | They are already tagged, take a look and if you know of any that should be there get them tagged. Next meeting we will set the release date of this kernel | 17:08 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] pgraner to add kernel date to next weeks agenda | 17:09 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pgraner to add kernel date to next weeks agenda | 17:09 |
| pgraner | We will do a separate security kernel. We need to work with kees on the ordering based on CVE severity. | 17:09 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: once Intrepid goes out, it falls with you as maint. | 17:10 |
| pgraner | Any questions? | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | pgraner, Yep sure | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | CVE severity was low according to kees. (up to now) | 17:10 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: I know thats why we need to figure out do we do the bugs first or the CVEs | 17:11 |
| * pgraner things at this point bugs | 17:11 | |
| pgraner | s/things/thinks/ | 17:11 |
| * smb_tp thinks so, too | 17:11 | |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Status of wireless backport (timg) | 17:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Status of wireless backport (timg) | 17:11 |
| pgraner | rtg: can we get this into the bug fix kernel? | 17:11 |
| rtg | Im keeping pace with Linville's updates. Its testing right now, but looks good. | 17:12 |
| pgraner | rtg: i.e. how much more time do you need | 17:12 |
| rtg | I'm want to make sure I don't hose the -mid guys | 17:12 |
| rtg | I'll test for another day or so, but I think its ready | 17:12 |
| pgraner | rtg: understand. You have a week to estimate a timeframe. | 17:12 |
| rtg | k, anything else? | 17:13 |
| pgraner | rtg: not from me on this topic | 17:13 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] QA Bugs | 17:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: QA Bugs | 17:14 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: whats new? | 17:14 |
| ogasawara | I wanted to point out https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/287711/comments/4 | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 287711 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.27 "wireless network lags - rt61pci driver" [High,Triaged] | 17:14 |
| pgraner | rtg: you aware of this one? | 17:14 |
| rtg | nope, lemme have a look. | 17:15 |
| pgraner | [LINK] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/intrepid-buglist.html | 17:15 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/intrepid-buglist.html | 17:15 |
| rtg | i mean, I'll look later | 17:15 |
| pgraner | rtg: Cool. | 17:15 |
| ogasawara | additionally, I was working with bug 286169 and we've narrowed it down to a patch that was cherrypicked from upstream | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 286169 in linux "battery and thermal dissappears after few minutes of booting. on msi ex600 laptop" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/286169 | 17:16 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: nice. Can you start tagging them with the updates tag | 17:16 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: sure | 17:16 |
| rtg | ogasawara: that EC storm patch fixed some other issues. | 17:17 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] ogasawara to tag low hanging fruit bugs for intrepid-updates | 17:17 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ogasawara to tag low hanging fruit bugs for intrepid-updates | 17:17 |
| ogasawara | rtg: ok cool | 17:17 |
| ogasawara | I've also started putting Intrepid SRU candidates at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/kernel-sru.html | 17:17 |
| ogasawara | but it looks like the ones I've posted so far have patches in the 2.6.27.x stable kernels | 17:18 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: whats the difference between an update and the SRU list your keeping? The release team created the "updates" tag for the post release issues? | 17:18 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: they appear to be very similar if not the same | 17:19 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: it was a list created prior to the tag. if they overlap now I'll just start tagging and avoid maintaining a separate list. | 17:20 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: awesome. | 17:20 |
| pgraner | I think rtg's RFC would take care of the 2nd point ogasawara made about things being in the 2.6.27 stable tree | 17:21 |
| pgraner | I haven't seen alot of feedback on it, can everyone respond to it ASAP if not we will take a decision very soon (like next week) | 17:21 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] pgraner to add rtg's RFC to agenda for decision next week | 17:22 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pgraner to add rtg's RFC to agenda for decision next week | 17:22 |
| rtg | pgraner: I haven't seen any real dissent, its just carping about the details. | 17:22 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: anything else? | 17:24 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: all good here | 17:24 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] UDS Status & Prep | 17:24 |
| MootBot | New Topic: UDS Status & Prep | 17:24 |
| pgraner | I'll be sending out an email with the list of topics and dependencies to other tracks to the mailing list next week and soliciting input from the community at large. | 17:25 |
| pgraner | Other than that there has not been much due to the intrepid release | 17:25 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] pgraner to send email to list on UDS topics and plan along with solicitation of community input. | 17:26 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pgraner to send email to list on UDS topics and plan along with solicitation of community input. | 17:26 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Open discussion | 17:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open discussion | 17:27 |
| pgraner | Anyone have items they would like to bring up/discuss? | 17:27 |
| rtg | I've backported 2.6.27.4 into ubuntu-hardy-next. Its currently cooking in the kernel-ppa | 17:28 |
| pgraner | rtg: are you announcing that anywhere besides this meeting? i.e. a CFT type email with the link? | 17:28 |
| rtg | pgraner: I usually do, but its been awhile since I made an update | 17:29 |
| rtg | I'll wait until I have a successful build :) | 17:29 |
| pgraner | rtg: that helps | 17:29 |
| pgraner | I want to remind everyone to assign bugs to yourself when you take one. This helps everyone know who to talk to if there are questions etc... | 17:30 |
| pgraner | Anyone have other items? | 17:30 |
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| pgraner | Going once... going twice... gone. | 17:31 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Roundtable | 17:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Roundtable | 17:31 |
| pgraner | pgraner | 17:31 |
| pgraner | I'm finishing up the release here in london and will start turning attention to the overall number of bugs. | 17:32 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: I'd like to have a quick call next week about what we can do to start addressing this in the week or two of slack time that we have. | 17:32 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: sure, my schedule should be fairly open | 17:33 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] pgraner to set up a call with ogasawara on bug squashing | 17:33 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pgraner to set up a call with ogasawara on bug squashing | 17:33 |
| pgraner | Thats about it for me... | 17:33 |
| pgraner | timg: how about you? | 17:33 |
| pgraner | rtg: how about you | 17:33 |
| rtg | I'm outta here. lunch time | 17:33 |
| pgraner | rtg: nice.... | 17:33 |
| pgraner | BenC: How about you? | 17:34 |
| BenC | Not much outside of toshiba-acpi and some key press issues | 17:34 |
| BenC | From Mario's description it sounds like his problem is different than the one I'm fixing, and might be an Xorg bug, so I need to find out for sure and pass it on to Bryce if so | 17:35 |
| BenC | already asked for more info on the bug | 17:35 |
| pgraner | BenC: I have the hardware here and have duplicated his findings | 17:35 |
| pgraner | BenC: I'll get that in the bug after the meeting | 17:35 |
| pgraner | BenC: Its not X, it happens at the console in single user | 17:36 |
| BenC | pgraner: hmm...ok | 17:36 |
| pgraner | BenC: Anything else? | 17:37 |
| BenC | pgraner: nope | 17:37 |
| pgraner | Looks like amitk didn't make it... so next on the list is... smb_tp | 17:37 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: what say you? | 17:38 |
| smb_tp | There hasn't been much. The security updates went out on Monday. So far only one possible regression was mentioned | 17:38 |
| smb_tp | But that might be a known lilo issue | 17:38 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: what are you plans/availability for next week? | 17:38 |
| smb_tp | Beside of that security updates for lum might still need a bit of care | 17:38 |
| smb_tp | pgraner, I should be available mostly all week. I would see whether kees comes with a new CVE list and get to that and get on more bugs for intrepid | 17:40 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: I thought you were moving next week so would be out of the net some... | 17:40 |
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| smb_tp | I am working from my parents home. Getting the officail paperwork done and looking for a new flat in parallel | 17:41 |
| pgraner | smb_tp: ack... sounds good. | 17:41 |
| smb_tp | s/officail/official/ | 17:42 |
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| pgraner | cking: how about you? | 17:42 |
| cking | well.. more of the OEM bug squishing. Doing more sane bug fixing this week - audio - rather than vexing BIOS issues | 17:43 |
| rtg | how anyone could claim audio bugs are sane is beyond me! | 17:43 |
| * pgraner nods | 17:43 | |
| cking | rtg: at least I have the source :-) | 17:43 |
| rtg | that hasn't helped me one whit. | 17:43 |
| pgraner | cking: you'll be down here thurs. for the release party and to meet sconklin in person? | 17:44 |
| cking | pgraner: indeed - looking forward to meeting sconklin and all that release party stuff too. | 17:44 |
| pgraner | cking: cool | 17:45 |
| pgraner | lieb: hows things with you? | 17:45 |
| lieb | got my build env working. thanks to some email today, the race in vt is deeper than I thought... | 17:45 |
| lieb | other than that, life is good | 17:45 |
| rtg | lieb: did my scripts help? | 17:46 |
| lieb | yea. There wree a few other missing bits. I'll gather and update the approp wiki pages | 17:46 |
| rtg | cool. | 17:46 |
| rtg | some of I learned by osmosis | 17:47 |
| pgraner | lieb: great... | 17:47 |
| lieb | like all U**X docs, it assumes you already know this stuff | 17:47 |
| lieb | seepage, I like that... | 17:47 |
| rtg | and if you already know, why read the docs :) | 17:47 |
| pgraner | last but not least sconklin ... you've prob not been around long enough yet, anything you'd like to add? | 17:47 |
| sconklin | Just happy to be here | 17:48 |
| pgraner | Ok... I guess thats about it. I'll call end of meeting... | 17:48 |
| BenC | sconklin and lieb will be in mountain view, correct? | 17:48 |
| lieb | easy commute... | 17:48 |
| pgraner | BenC: rtg is working the details on this but yes | 17:48 |
| rtg | pgraner: UDS, not PDX | 17:48 |
| pgraner | BenC: sorry yes they will be at UDS | 17:49 |
| * pgraner has too many trips in the brain | 17:49 | |
| * sconklin is in North Alabama | 17:49 | |
| sconklin | lives there, will be at UDS | 17:49 |
| pgraner | I'll call it end of meeting... | 17:49 |
| rtg | I thought sconklin was in London with you? | 17:49 |
| pgraner | rtg: he is | 17:49 |
| rtg | doh! | 17:49 |
| BenC | lieb: you should still stay at the hotel with us...much better chance for social gatherings | 17:50 |
| pgraner | #endmeeting | 17:50 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:50. | 17:50 |
| pgraner | Thanks everyone! | 17:50 |
| BenC | pgraner: thanks | 17:50 |
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| juliux | evening | 18:35 |
| afflux | hi juliux | 18:37 |
| juliux | \o/ afflux | 18:38 |
| savvas_ | for the EMEA Membership meeting, do the member candidates have to attend the meeting too? | 18:47 |
| afflux | savvas_: I think so. They usually introduce themselves here, iirc | 18:48 |
| forumsmatthew | yes, the candidates need to be here | 18:49 |
| savvas_ | hm.. they never actually cleared that out :\ | 18:49 |
| forumsmatthew | if the candidate is not here, we have no way to talk with them | 18:49 |
| savvas_ | how long do such meetings last? | 18:49 |
| forumsmatthew | usually an hour, maybe 90 minutes | 18:50 |
| forumsmatthew | there is a short list this time, so it might be shorter | 18:50 |
| juliux | savvas_: around 15-20min per candidate | 18:50 |
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| savvas_ | thank you all :) | 18:51 |
| savvas_ | (I hope I don't get beeped in the meantime) | 18:51 |
| juliux | hi _Lux | 19:00 |
| _Lux | good evening all | 19:00 |
| _Lux | hi juliux | 19:00 |
| afflux | hi | 19:00 |
| _Lux | hi Richard, ys76 | 19:01 |
| ys76 | Hi Dirk, Hi dennda | 19:01 |
| juliux | hi ys76 ;) | 19:02 |
| riot_le | hi, is Germany-Meeting here ;-) | 19:03 |
| afflux | hehe | 19:03 |
| phanatic | good evening everyone | 19:03 |
| * dennda was paid well | 19:03 | |
| _Lux | hi phanatic | 19:03 |
| forumsmatthew | hi, phanatic | 19:03 |
| juliux | dennda: lol | 19:03 |
| ys76 | dennda: I told you not to spread that! | 19:04 |
| riot_le | ys76: hey where is my part? | 19:04 |
| juliux | ys76: where is my? | 19:05 |
| ys76 | Uh, it's getting expensive right now... | 19:05 |
| _Lux | ys76: I did not find anything on my account | 19:05 |
| ys76 | _Lux: maybe tomorrow... | 19:06 |
| riot_le | ys76: i think you can pay it at the next Ubucon in our Currency "Maß" | 19:06 |
| phanatic | hehe :) | 19:06 |
| juliux | riot_le: good idea | 19:06 |
| ys76 | That would be a nice idea... | 19:06 |
| _Lux | it is a question of gallons (of beer) ... | 19:06 |
| juliux | i will add that to our wikipage;) | 19:06 |
| afflux | it would be, indeed. Since I'd appear there too | 19:06 |
| afflux | (probably...) | 19:07 |
| jernst | hello Regional Board, sorry to be late... | 19:08 |
| forumsmatthew | hi, jernst . We are still waiting for board members, so no worries | 19:08 |
| juliux | forumsmatthew: have you pinged them? | 19:08 |
| forumsmatthew | juliux, not yet...I was trying to finish something up (work-related), so I'm guilty too... | 19:09 |
| juliux | forumsmatthew: ok | 19:09 |
| phanatic | popey has an excuse to be a bit late, but he should be here within 10 mins | 19:10 |
| juliux | phanatic: as usal, i bet he is making some pasta atm;) | 19:10 |
| phanatic | juliux: nope, he's getting home right now :) | 19:10 |
| juliux | phanatic ahhh | 19:10 |
| juliux | phanatic: last loco council meeting he was making pasta and then he provides a picture of it;) | 19:11 |
| afflux | I'm starving right now | 19:11 |
| phanatic | hehe :) | 19:11 |
| ys76 | I had a wonderfull dinner ;-) | 19:11 |
| afflux | I've chocolate | 19:12 |
| phanatic | PriceChild: ping | 19:12 |
| PriceChild | pong | 19:14 |
| PriceChild | *just* walked in, expected to be working during this. | 19:15 |
| forumsmatthew | shall we do a quick board roll call? who is here? | 19:16 |
| phanatic | ack | 19:16 |
| PriceChild | me 8-) | 19:17 |
| forumsmatthew | dennis? stephane? Mark? | 19:17 |
| forumsmatthew | I know popey is on his way | 19:18 |
| popey | hi | 19:18 |
| forumsmatthew | speak of the devil... | 19:18 |
| juliux | hey popey | 19:18 |
| forumsmatthew | :) | 19:18 |
| popey | it's pizza tonight by the way, not pasta :) | 19:19 |
| riot_le | hi popey | 19:19 |
| PriceChild | msg popey Your trousers are still tucked in to your socks. | 19:19 |
| popey | :) | 19:19 |
| PriceChild | fail | 19:19 |
| juliux | damn | 19:19 |
| afflux | indeed :) | 19:19 |
| forumsmatthew | you're doing it wrong | 19:19 |
| savvas_ | he might be looking for some spinach :p | 19:19 |
| popey | who else are we waiting for? | 19:20 |
| forumsmatthew | two questions; anyone heard from the three missing members and know their plans? and can we proceed with only four of us here? | 19:20 |
| phanatic | forumsmatthew: i thing stgraber said that he couldn't come | 19:21 |
| phanatic | think* | 19:21 |
| forumsmatthew | okay. anyone heard from/about dennis and mark? | 19:21 |
| riot_le | hi hacktick ;-) | 19:22 |
| _Lux | hi martin | 19:23 |
| riot_le | hi Dirk | 19:23 |
| _Lux | hi Martin | 19:23 |
| ys76 | Uh, another guy to pay for.... | 19:23 |
| hacktick | hey :) | 19:23 |
| _Lux | German Ubuntu members are close to being complete this evening | 19:23 |
| forumsmatthew | hmm.... can we meet with only four? opinions from phanatic , PriceChild and popey would be appreciated | 19:23 |
| riot_le | i think ccm is not here | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | I don't see a problem as there's a majority, comes down to personal preference and i think we've chosen not to before? | 19:24 |
| juliux | _Lux: ccm is missing;) | 19:24 |
| juliux | _Lux: and all the devs;) | 19:24 |
| hacktick | the last time I have beenin this channel was my membership approval in June, pidgin shows it :) | 19:24 |
| _Lux | juliux, riot_le that is what I call close | 19:25 |
| phanatic | i think it's okay to go on... | 19:25 |
| riot_le | _Lux: ah ok | 19:25 |
| _Lux | riot_le, "nah dran" | 19:25 |
| forumsmatthew | maybe we can hold any candidates that are not obvious and about whom we are not unanimous for the next meeting, but at least start now and see what we think??? | 19:26 |
| phanatic | forumsmatthew: yeah, just wanted to mention that imho only those applicants can be approved, who get +1 from all of the attending board members | 19:26 |
| forumsmatthew | phanatic, +1 | 19:27 |
| forumsmatthew | PriceChild, popey, you guys good with that plan? | 19:27 |
| PriceChild | sure | 19:28 |
| forumsmatthew | popey? | 19:29 |
| PriceChild | I think I'm going to feel mean :/ | 19:29 |
| savvas_ | er.. one more question, we don't have to bring other ubuntu members (sponsors?), do we? because I can't say I know anyone that can "guarantee" me | 19:30 |
| PriceChild | savvas_: its not a requirement, but it always helps | 19:30 |
| dennda | savvas_: you don't have to, but it helps | 19:30 |
| * dennda fails at speedy answers | 19:30 | |
| forumsmatthew | savvas_, if they can't come with you, they can make a comment on your wiki page, and it would still be helpful | 19:30 |
| PriceChild | popey: are you around? If we're going to do anything I think its time. | 19:31 |
| forumsmatthew | hmm...no response from popey. Perhaps it would be better to reschedule... three board members active won't give us the best chance to give a good and honest appraisal of candidates | 19:31 |
| forumsmatthew | I want to do everyone justice | 19:32 |
| forumsmatthew | okay, I move to reschedule... | 19:32 |
| forumsmatthew | wait... | 19:33 |
| * dennda appreciates this *dramatic* moment | 19:33 | |
| * _Lux too | 19:33 | |
| markvandenborre | hi guys, sorry I'm late, but a friend stood at my door in tears, couldn't just run away | 19:33 |
| forumsmatthew | hi markvandenborre, glad you could be here | 19:34 |
| popey | PriceChild: sorry, had to pop up to sort son out | 19:34 |
| forumsmatthew | yay! popey is here | 19:34 |
| phanatic | good news :) | 19:34 |
| forumsmatthew | let's start before anyone has to leave | 19:34 |
| popey | :) | 19:34 |
| popey | ok | 19:34 |
| forumsmatthew | is our first candidate present? schakenberg, you here? | 19:34 |
| forumsmatthew | I don't seem him listed. Pinging jernst | 19:35 |
| jernst | yep I'm here ! | 19:35 |
| forumsmatthew | great! give us your introduction as we pull up your wiki | 19:35 |
| jernst | Hello, My name is Jonathan Ernst (jernst). I'm 28 and live in Geneva, Switzerland. I'm a computer scientist and I'm using Linux since 1999. I'd like to be an Ubuntu member because I feel I belong to this community and can contribute something back. I'm member of Ubuntu Swiss Users and Ubuntu French Translators. I'm mostly working on French l18n (most GNOME packages), Wine, advocacy, user support, system administration and bug triage/re | 19:35 |
| forumsmatthew | looking at your launchpad pages... | 19:37 |
| * markvandenborre too | 19:37 | |
| PriceChild | jernst: linky to forums profil? | 19:38 |
| PriceChild | *profile | 19:38 |
| jernst | one sec. | 19:38 |
| stgraber | jernst: Do I know you ? | 19:39 |
| forumsmatthew | I like the long history of translation contributions, going back to 2006 | 19:39 |
| forumsmatthew | find that forum profile link yet? | 19:40 |
| jernst | http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=373275 | 19:40 |
| jernst | http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/profile.php?id=87993 | 19:40 |
| jernst | (not a lot of logged in messages I'm afraid) | 19:40 |
| jernst | stgraber: I know you are member of ubuntu-ch but we don't know each other personnaly | 19:40 |
| popey | jernst: heh 1 post | 19:41 |
| stgraber | jernst: so you never attented a ubuntu-ch release party ? | 19:41 |
| stgraber | *attended | 19:41 |
| jernst | not yet, I wish we could organise one in Geneva or Lausanne for Intrepid as my german is not that good | 19:41 |
| stgraber | there was one at the EPFL for Hardy, I couldn't attend this one though. The ones in Zurich usually have some english-speaking attendees too and are usually fun | 19:42 |
| jernst | I attended an install fest at the EPFL though | 19:43 |
| jernst | (I was an EPFL student myself) | 19:43 |
| forumsmatthew | did you bring a cheering section with you to the meeting? | 19:43 |
| forumsmatthew | anyone who knows you better than we do? | 19:44 |
| popey | jernst: what three things would you like to do for ubuntu in the next 6 month cycle? | 19:44 |
| jernst | vuntz told me he was not sure to be able to be here tonight but he wrote a testimonial on my wiki page | 19:44 |
| jernst | and Claude Paroz did the same (I guess you know him too) | 19:44 |
| PriceChild | jernst: Could you expand on "Forum help (2007-2008) " please? | 19:44 |
| stgraber | jernst: ok, Vuntz and Claude testimonials are good for me (I know and met both, Claude being a member of my previous lug :)) | 19:46 |
| jernst | popey: My current "fight" is to make sure that the computers in Geneva's schools that are now all dual booting with Ubuntu are working well (they have borked the installation and it's currently unusable). Then I will continue my involvment in launchpad (bug reporting, bug triage and I just started to leard to send debdiff patches). The third thing I'd like to do is to be more involved in my loco ubuntu-ch | 19:46 |
| jernst | PriceChild: I have helped users in linuxquestions, ubuntu forums (french and englis) and other application-specific forums (Wine comes to mind) | 19:47 |
| forumsmatthew | With the testimonials, and the consistent and long history of involvement with translation, I am ready to give a +1 | 19:47 |
| stgraber | +1 from me | 19:48 |
| popey | I agree with forumsmatthew, and I'd be interested in hearing more of jernst blogging about his efforts with ubuntu in schools in geneva, +1 | 19:48 |
| stgraber | (I'm currently at work so don't expect me to follow all the meeting though) | 19:48 |
| PriceChild | jernst: As far as I can tell, you have a combined 4 posts on ubuntuforums.org & forums.ubuntu-fr.org ? | 19:48 |
| PriceChild | or did i read the referral part or something silly | 19:48 |
| phanatic | +1 from me too, keep up the good work in the schools, that's really important! | 19:49 |
| jernst | PriceChild: I thing I have about 15-20 posts as I have made some unregistered on these forums. But you are right that's not much | 19:49 |
| forumsmatthew | PriceChild, markvandenborre ? | 19:49 |
| jernst | s/thing/think | 19:49 |
| markvandenborre | thinking and reading | 19:50 |
| jernst | PriceChild: I also hang around on #ubuntu-fr and #gnomefr | 19:50 |
| markvandenborre | +1 | 19:50 |
| markvandenborre | please greet Myriam Schweingrüber from me whenever you might meet her in .ch | 19:50 |
| forumsmatthew | thanks, markvandenborre. PriceChild ? | 19:51 |
| jernst | markvandenborre: will do, she seems to be nice organising ubuntu-ch | 19:51 |
| PriceChild | I think I'm going to go +1, and would like to see you start shouting out about your achievements getting Ubuntu working in these important places. | 19:52 |
| forumsmatthew | great! It looks like we are unanimous, then. | 19:52 |
| jernst | PriceChild: I also intend (if I am getting membership) to post on Ubuntu Planet, so you might hear about it | 19:53 |
| popey | jernst: we expect it :) | 19:53 |
| forumsmatthew | congrats, jernst | 19:53 |
| markvandenborre | congratulations! | 19:53 |
| _Lux | jernst: Congratulations | 19:53 |
| ys76 | jernst: Congrats! | 19:53 |
| jernst | Thanks everyone, I'm very happy ! | 19:53 |
| PriceChild | jernst: Hoping so. | 19:53 |
| forumsmatthew | afflux, your turn. :) | 19:54 |
| afflux | alright | 19:54 |
| riot_le | jernst: Congrats! | 19:54 |
| afflux | Hi, I'm Kjell Braden. I'm 17 and a student from germany and I use Ubuntu since 2005/06. I work with bugs at launchpad for two years now, I occasionally join in on bug days and I participate in the five-a-day project. In summer 08 I also helped juliux and others at the Ubuntu booth at Linuxtag in Berlin. | 19:54 |
| juliux | jernst: congrats | 19:54 |
| afflux | Note that I forgot to mention that I did some merge/sync work (in the gutsy release cycle, IIRC). | 19:55 |
| savvas_ | forumsmatthew: I'm out, just got beeped, some other time, life calls :) sorry everyone! | 19:55 |
| forumsmatthew | savvas_, sorry...next time | 19:55 |
| PriceChild | Well that's a bit of karma. | 19:56 |
| forumsmatthew | I"m having trouble getting the wiki to load. Is anyone else having problems? | 19:56 |
| popey | yes | 19:56 |
| dennda | yes | 19:56 |
| afflux | me too | 19:57 |
| dennda | worked a few minutes ago though | 19:57 |
| markvandenborre1 | I have the wiki pages locally | 19:57 |
| markvandenborre1 | should I upload them somewhere public? | 19:57 |
| juliux | it is no very slow | 19:57 |
| dennda | moinmoin going nuts X) | 19:57 |
| juliux | now | 19:57 |
| popey | pastebin | 19:57 |
| juliux | dennda: fix it pls;) | 19:57 |
| _Lux | nothing new for moinmoin ... sorry to say that | 19:57 |
| markvandenborre1 | http://pastebin.com/mcf1072e | 19:58 |
| forumsmatthew | thank you, markvandenborre1 | 19:59 |
| riot_le | its seems that it still works now | 19:59 |
| dennda | afflux: what's your nick on launchpad again? | 19:59 |
| afflux | ~afflux | 19:59 |
| afflux | ;) | 19:59 |
| PriceChild | Hehe, didn't know we had a "bugmaster" | 20:00 |
| forumsmatthew | I see a lot of good karma from answering questions, bug work, and a good testimony from Brian Murray. | 20:00 |
| PriceChild | indeed | 20:00 |
| popey | afflux: how was linuxtag? | 20:00 |
| afflux | quite nice | 20:01 |
| juliux | i am sorry but i forget to add my testimonials | 20:01 |
| juliux | and afflux forget to add to his wikipage that he is a good support on #ubuntu-de | 20:01 |
| afflux | since it was my first time, it was quite impressing to see how easy it was to help with the people's issues ;) | 20:01 |
| afflux | and of course, it was very cool to meet the other guys from the loco team | 20:02 |
| * dennda is here to support afflux on his way to ubuntu membership | 20:02 | |
| juliux | afflux: you are invited to come again to linuxtag;) | 20:02 |
| afflux | hi dennda :> | 20:02 |
| forumsmatthew | I am also pleased to see a long history. afflux is not a newcomer, but has a history in the community | 20:02 |
| afflux | juliux: not sure whether it will collide with exams, will check that | 20:03 |
| juliux | afflux: it is at the end of june | 20:03 |
| popey | based on a good track record of help via launchpad, real world stuff at linuxtag and testimonials from brian and juliux :), +1 | 20:03 |
| afflux | juliux: ah, that sounds good | 20:03 |
| forumsmatthew | Agreed, and dennda as well. +1 | 20:03 |
| phanatic | indeed, +1 | 20:04 |
| juliux | afflux: we have allready marked you for a talk about bug work next year at ubucon;) | 20:04 |
| afflux | right... | 20:04 |
| ys76 | juliux: noted... | 20:04 |
| popey | er yeah, and dennda too :) | 20:04 |
| afflux | hope thekorn will be alright too ;) | 20:04 |
| juliux | afflux: he promised;) | 20:04 |
| markvandenborr1 | sorry... networking prob | 20:04 |
| PriceChild | +1 - Keep it going! | 20:04 |
| forumsmatthew | we have four +1, waiting for mark to have a chance to catch up | 20:05 |
| markvandenborr1 | +1 | 20:06 |
| afflux | markvandenborr1: need my backlog? | 20:06 |
| afflux | uhuh, that was easy :) | 20:06 |
| forumsmatthew | congratulations, afflux ! | 20:06 |
| _Lux | afflux: Congrats | 20:06 |
| hacktick | gz afflux | 20:06 |
| afflux | thank you all! | 20:06 |
| ys76 | Congrats! | 20:06 |
| popey | keep it up | 20:06 |
| riot_le | afflux: Congrats! | 20:06 |
| juliux | afflux: congrats! | 20:06 |
| juliux | \o/ | 20:06 |
| forumsmatthew | ys76, you are up. | 20:06 |
| ys76 | *nod* | 20:06 |
| ys76 | Hi! I am Richard "ys76", a 32y old system administrator living next to Duisburg/Germany. Started using Linux in 1997 when I was not able to install Win 95 on my brand new box. But Linux was so easy to install... I am a member ofthe German Loco, German Event, Ubuntu-EU serverteam and member of the board of the german ubuntu asscociation. My contributions to Ubuntu are mainly in organizing events like the german speaking | 20:06 |
| afflux | and thanks for your support juliux, dennda and brian ;) | 20:07 |
| ys76 | Ubucon and representing Ubuntu at exhibitions and fairs. | 20:07 |
| * _Lux supporting ys76 | 20:07 | |
| * juliux too | 20:07 | |
| * hacktick wants to support ys76, too | 20:08 | |
| markvandenborr1 | ys76: is a +1 for me, based upon the .de endorsements alone | 20:08 |
| phanatic | what a team of cheerleaders :) | 20:08 |
| hacktick | :) | 20:08 |
| ys76 | markvandenborr1: Thx... | 20:08 |
| riot_le | supporting ys76 application too | 20:08 |
| afflux | heh | 20:08 |
| _Lux | :-) | 20:08 |
| juliux | stgraber: btw ys76 is an example that ubuntu-de is not a forum locoteam;) | 20:08 |
| forumsmatthew | if everyone had a wiki page like this one, and a team of supporters like these, our meetings would all be very quick | 20:08 |
| * ys76 wakes dennda up | 20:08 | |
| forumsmatthew | I'm +1 | 20:08 |
| phanatic | impressive work and testimonials (and a fellow event organizer), +1 :) | 20:09 |
| * dennda is here to support ys76 as well | 20:09 | |
| stgraber | +1 | 20:10 |
| forumsmatthew | PriceChild, popey ? | 20:10 |
| stgraber | juliux: I didn't say that ubutnu-de was ONLY a forum team :) | 20:11 |
| juliux | stgraber: i know | 20:11 |
| popey | easy +1 | 20:11 |
| afflux | I'll have to leave now, congrats in advance ys76 ;) | 20:11 |
| PriceChild | +1 from me. | 20:11 |
| _Lux | ys76: Congrats | 20:11 |
| forumsmatthew | yay! congrats, ys76 ! | 20:11 |
| juliux | congrats ys76 | 20:11 |
| riot_le | ys76: Congrats Richard! | 20:12 |
| dennda | wiki up again by the way | 20:12 |
| ys76 | Thx all! And feel free to drop by at the next german Ubucon in 2009.... | 20:12 |
| afflux | is the location fixed yet? | 20:12 |
| juliux | now we have a sponsor for the social event at ubucon2009;) | 20:12 |
| _Lux | ys76: could be very expensive | 20:12 |
| juliux | afflux: not yet | 20:12 |
| ys76 | (Or maybe even earlier at the Linuxtag or somewhere else...) | 20:12 |
| riot_le | ys76: you know that we have a deal at Paulaner ;-) | 20:12 |
| forumsmatthew | I think that is all for us today. schackenberg isn't here and savvas had to leave, so we will save them for next time around. | 20:12 |
| markvandenborr1 | kthxbye :) | 20:13 |
| riot_le | oh i have a question to the board members | 20:13 |
| markvandenborr1 | ah? | 20:13 |
| forumsmatthew | please, ask | 20:13 |
| dennda | By the way: My ubuntu membership is about to expire in january. Is there any documentation on how to prolong it? | 20:13 |
| popey | dennda: just visit the ubuntu-members team and extend it yourself | 20:14 |
| riot_le | how long will it take to be added to the ubuntumembers-Launchpad Group, i was approved at the last meeting | 20:14 |
| forumsmatthew | you will receive an email at the address in your launchpad account soon | 20:14 |
| dennda | popey: oh I didn't know it was that easy | 20:14 |
| forumsmatthew | right before you expire, with instructions on renewing | 20:14 |
| popey | or do that :) | 20:14 |
| juliux | i think you can' t renew your membership yourself longer at lp | 20:14 |
| * dennda was thinking he had to show up on some board meeting again and bring fellow cheerleaders | 20:15 | |
| PriceChild | riot_le: oh dear, I guess we should do that now then :) | 20:15 |
| forumsmatthew | can one of the other board members take care of the details of adding our three new members, etc? I have to run and will be offline for a while | 20:15 |
| forumsmatthew | riot_le, sorry...that can be taken care of soon | 20:15 |
| _Lux | all: Have a nice evening | 20:15 |
| riot_le | bye Dirk | 20:16 |
| forumsmatthew | I have to go now...bye, all! | 20:16 |
| ys76 | Thx to the board and enjoy the evening! | 20:16 |
| riot_le | PriceChild: my LP-Name is martin.kaufmann ~martin.kaufmann | 20:17 |
| riot_le | sorry for the mistake only ~martin.kaufmann | 20:17 |
| PriceChild | riot_le: do you remember the date of our last meeting? *checks email* | 20:20 |
| riot_le | 16.10.2008 | 20:20 |
| PriceChild | You already told me that didn't you.. | 20:21 |
| riot_le | what do you mean? | 20:22 |
| PriceChild | Sorry ignore me, date sounded familiar as though I'd just been told it is all. | 20:25 |
| riot_le | ok | 20:25 |
| riot_le | PriceChild: what do you think how long it will takes that @ubuntu.com email-adress will work? | 20:29 |
| PriceChild | riot_le: absolutely no idea, 'depends' i believe | 20:30 |
| afflux | ah, the @ubuntu.com address was lp-account@ubuntu.com, right? | 20:30 |
| PriceChild | afflux: yep | 20:30 |
| afflux | aww ;) | 20:30 |
| PriceChild | riot_le: what's your launchpad id? | 20:30 |
| riot_le | PriceChild: ~martin.kaufmann | 20:31 |
| PriceChild | aha, looking at too late a revision on the wiki | 20:31 |
| riot_le | ah ok, seems that was my mistake to delete my Application to early from the wiki-page | 20:32 |
| PriceChild | hehe no tisn't a problem | 20:33 |
| riot_le | seems that you added me to group now, thank you PriceChild | 20:34 |
| PriceChild | riot_le: no probs | 20:35 |
| riot_le | so i will leave now, has something to Work now | 20:37 |
| jernst | good night everyone, thanks for the approval and congrats to the other new members | 20:42 |
| afflux | good night jenda | 20:42 |
| afflux | doh | 20:42 |
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