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asachi08:23
ftahttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_bench_2008&num=108:33
asacyeah ... that was posted somewhere ;)08:36
asacsqlite is quite3 a big issue for us i think08:43
directhexsome of those numbers seem flat-out silly to me08:47
directhexbut i've long had issues w/ larabel's testing methodology08:47
asacmaybe08:49
directhexcomparing sqlite 3.6.3 fr'example... great, but 7.04 had sqlite 3.3.1308:51
directhexyou can't say "feisty would be zomgfast if you just updated all the apps to the versions in intrepid"08:51
ftacompiler hardening and glibc checking are probably part of it too09:04
asacack09:09
asacwell ... sqlite getting slower is a different thing09:09
ftasqlite for us (moz) or for the whole distro ?09:10
asacits somehow not comprehensible how sqlite would require so much more CPU for the same09:10
asacfta: for us and the distro09:10
asacfta: it probably has the most severe impact for us though09:10
asacas ffox uses it in a heavy way09:11
ftait's getting better in 3.109:11
asacyeah ... but still if sqlite would be twice as fast09:11
asacthings would become even more snappy09:12
asacinteresting thing is that rhythmbox always opens on _some_ desktop -- which is rarely the current active desktop09:14
ftaeverything using the tray is broken for me, file copy in nautilus (gvfs), liferea, rhythmbox, deluge, ... except xchat09:17
asacin which way?09:17
asaclike what i said for phythmbox?09:18
asacfta: ?09:18
ftaonce open in a workspace, it's impossible to rise it from another workspace09:18
asacyeah09:18
asacthtas true09:18
asacfta: ++09:18
asac;)09:18
asaci think gtk is broken09:19
asacfta: when did this start for you?09:19
ftaraise09:19
ftaa few months ago09:19
asacdid this happen in this last round of tarballs?09:19
asachmm09:19
asacfta: or maybe its compiz09:19
ftai fixed liferea with Jazzva once, it's broken again09:20
asacor aint you using that?09:20
ftai use metacity09:20
asacok so not compiz09:20
asaci still bet its gtk ;)09:20
asacfta: what did that liferea fix consist toof?09:21
asacdid someone drop it or is it just not applicable anymore?09:21
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/63562/09:24
asaclooks like a hack09:25
asaclike something that is predestined to break ;)09:26
ftayes, but GDK_WINDOW_STATE_ICONIFIED means different things09:26
asacits dumb09:26
asacyeah i can imagine that09:26
ftai checked the doc at that time09:26
ftaif you feel like fixing all this...09:27
ftai wonder why noone else complained09:27
asacme? ... gtk folks think they are perfect ;)09:27
asacfta: most likely there are a bunch of bugs open09:28
asacfta: just not filed against gtk+2.0, but agains the individual apps09:29
asacok ... have to move ... bbi10min09:29
jcastroasac: fta: plenty of room for mozilla team sessions for openweek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek13:16
asacbummer13:28
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asac[reed]: you think you could lend me an hour or so for getting info on the EAP thing?16:15
[reed]sure16:16
[reed]now is ok16:16
[reed]asac: now ok for you?16:17
asac[reed]: \o/ ;) yeah.16:23
asac[reed]: so its still failing right?16:24
asac[reed]: when trying to connect and it fails, what do you see in /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log (maybe to a tail it)16:24
[reed]yes, though I've gotten it to work twice randomly (but never was able to get it working immediately after that... very sporadic)16:25
[reed]but that's twice in like 2-3 weeks16:25
[reed]:(16:25
asacurgh. scares me :/16:25
asac[reed]: anyway ;)16:25
asac[reed]: there is a bunch of users that report it as working with wpa_supplicant, so i hope we can find a fix16:26
[reed]let me restart to get a blank slate16:27
asacyeah. though lets hope that thats on necessary ;)16:29
[reed]oh, have my weekly call with my manager now, so give me about 5-10 min.16:30
asac[reed]: sure ;)16:31
[reed]asac: he hasn't called yet, so I'll post some logs16:34
[reed]give me a sec16:34
asaccool ;)16:34
reedasac: http://reed.pastebin.mozilla.org/56341716:37
asacreed: ok so what kind of network is that? PEAP?16:38
reedotp16:39
[reed]ok, back16:44
[reed]yeah, PEAP16:44
asac[reed]: ok. so there should be in syslog a few lines where NM dumps the parameters it sends to wpa16:45
asac[reed]: do you see those?16:45
reedhttp://reed.pastebin.mozilla.org/56342016:45
reedmsu1x is 802.1x... msstate.edu is just a normal open wifi net that requires me to VPN16:46
asacreed: so how was that connection setup? just started NM and selected the AP? or did you already tweak stuff manually in connection editor=16:46
asac?16:46
reedno manual tweaking16:47
reedjust started NM16:47
reedI can delete the two APs16:47
reed and start from scratch16:47
reedif it would help16:47
asacreed: could you try to create a connection and manually configure stuff?16:47
reedpretty sure I already tried that, though16:47
asacreed: tried that?16:47
reedhmm16:48
reednot sure16:48
reedok, give me a sec to test16:48
asacreed: yeah. if you look at wpasupp log16:48
asacreed: you see that NM tries to force peapver=1 and wpasupplicant complains about that16:48
asacmight be a red herring, but in supplicant code it just return NULL; if it sees that16:48
asacso might contribute here16:49
asacreed: i looked at NM applet and the only other option available is peap version 0 ... so trying that would be a first stab16:49
reedtried that16:49
asacreed: can you try and see if that error goes away in wpasupplicant.log (this would mean its a red herring ;))16:50
[reed]yeah, I don't see any error about peap v1 in wpasupplicant.log16:51
[reed]when using 016:51
[reed]but still doesn't work16:51
[reed]:)16:51
asac[reed]: you have a log with ver 0? or is its just the same but without that error?16:53
reed_same but without error16:53
reed_http://reed.pastebin.mozilla.org/563423 is syslog of disconnect from msstate.edu, attempt connect to msu1x, fail16:53
reed_this is the only thing in wpasupplicant.log for msstate.edu -> msu1x -> fail16:54
reed_CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys16:54
reed_No network configuration found for the current AP16:54
reed_CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys16:54
reed_CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS16:54
asacreed: i think we need a more verbose wpasupplicant.log, but first lets try if it really works without NM16:55
asacin /etc/network/interfaces add something like:16:55
asaciface eth1 inet dhcp wpa-conf /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf16:55
asacoops16:55
asacagain:16:55
asaciface wlan0 inet dhcp16:55
asacwpa-conf /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf16:56
asacand create a wpa_supplicant.conf at the configured path with:16:56
asacreed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63679/16:56
[reed]I removed the ca line16:57
[reed]what about peaplabel?16:57
asacnot sure :/16:57
asacreed: keep it ... and if it doesnt work remove  ;)16:58
[reed]ok, now what?16:58
asacreed: so ... if you have that stop NM sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop16:58
asacand try to ifup your interface16:58
asacsudo ifup wlan0 (given wlan0 is your interface.name)16:58
asachere is another PEAP example with label=0 http://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf16:59
[reed]it's just doing DHCPDISCOVER a ton17:00
[reed]never getting an IP17:00
asacreed: bug 29033717:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290337 in network-manager "Fails to connect to wireless network (dup-of: 272185)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29033717:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272185 in network-manager-applet "[Intrepid] iwl3945 + iwl4965 -- network-manager will not connect to a WPA EAP (Enterprise) network (disassociating by local choice (reason=3) )" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27218517:01
asacthat contains a conf someone said worked17:01
[reed]looking17:01
asacreed: but its supposed to do dhcp right? or do you have static stuff?17:01
[reed]supposed to do DHCP17:01
[reed]let me get rid of phase117:01
asacyeah17:02
asactry that17:02
asacthere are bunch in the messy master bug (the second) that say that it works manually (e.g. like what we try now)17:02
[reed]hmm, nm-system-settings and wpa_supplicant are both running even though I've ifdown'd the iface17:03
[reed]is that ok?17:03
asacreed: oh right17:03
asacreed: settings is ok17:04
asacbut wpasupplicant might fight over the interface with the manual one17:04
asacso killall wpasupplicant17:04
asaccheck that none is runnig and try ifup wlan017:04
asac(first ifdown wlan0 if it refuses to do stuff)17:04
[reed]how can I make sure of the SSID I'm connected to?17:05
asacreed: iwconfig17:05
asacshould spit out the current state17:05
reed__yep17:06
reed__I'm on msu1x17:06
asacso works17:06
asaccool17:06
reed__yep17:06
reed__so, it's NM's fault ;)17:06
asacreed: obviously ;)17:06
asacreed__: but thats good ;)17:06
asacreed__: can you insert exactly what you see in the paste?17:06
reed__see in syslog or what?17:07
asacreed__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63686/17:07
asacreed__: i think the keys should match (maybe its _ replaced by -)17:07
reed__ah17:07
reed__ok17:07
reed__disconnecting... will try now17:07
[reed]just getting DHCPDISCOVER17:12
[reed]over and over17:12
[reed]so, I guess you want me to comment out a row by row17:12
[reed]and figure out which one is breaking it? :)17:13
[reed]or do you have some ideas17:13
asac[reed]: so what do you have now?17:13
asac[reed]: i assume you didnt have group/pairwise lines before? remove those two first17:13
asacand proto too i guess17:13
[reed]network={17:14
[reed]ssid="msu1x"17:14
[reed]scan_ssid=117:14
[reed]key_mgmt=WPA-EAP17:14
[reed]proto="WPA RSN"17:14
[reed]pairwise="TKIP CCMP"17:14
[reed]group="WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP"17:14
[reed]fragment_size=130017:15
[reed]eap=PEAP17:15
[reed]identity="myusername"17:15
[reed]password="mypassword"17:15
[reed]phase1="peapver=0"17:15
[reed]phase2="auth=MSCHAPV2"17:15
[reed]}17:15
[reed]that's what I have right now (had to type it since my other laptop isn't connected right now)17:15
[reed]I'll remove group, pairwise, and proto now17:15
asacyeah17:16
[reed]oh, just noticed this on ifup17:17
[reed]wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start17:17
asac[reed]: you need to ifdown first?17:17
[reed]I did17:17
asac[reed]: is a wpasupplicant running?17:17
[reed]no17:17
asacmaybe kill it to be sure ;)17:17
asachmm17:17
[reed]ps x | grep -i wpa17:17
[reed]returns nothing17:17
[reed]let me try again17:17
asac[reed]: hmm i think you dont need the " for proto and pairwise and group17:18
asacmight even be illegal17:18
asacas its a list of strings rather than one string17:18
[reed]well, getting that error after removing those, too17:18
asacexample config suggests things like:  group=CCMP TKIP WEP104 WEP4017:19
[reed]oh, maybe I didn't save that17:19
[reed]ok, didn't get the error that time17:19
[reed]still have group, proto, and pairwise in file17:20
[reed]it's doing DHCPDISCOVER17:20
[reed]let's see if it gets an IP17:20
asachopefully not ;)17:20
reed__http://reed.pastebin.mozilla.org/56343417:21
reed__it got an ip :(17:21
asacreed__: ok but took some time :/17:22
reed__yeah17:22
asacreed__: does it always work?17:22
reed__checking17:22
asaclike ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0 ?17:22
asacreed__: also how long does it about take to get that IP?17:23
[reed]it worked again the second time, but not third time... trying again17:25
[reed]didn't work that time either17:26
asacreed__: checked that wpasupplicant isnt running ;)17:26
asac?17:26
[reed]not running17:26
asacreed__: ok. i think thats enough empirical data. when it worked, how long did it take?17:26
[reed]took a while... at least 30 seconds... probably closer to a minute17:27
asacmore like 3 seconds or 10 or 30?17:27
asacreed__: ok17:27
asacreed__: can you drop the stuff we discussed now?17:27
[reed]if it fails, it takes 1m14s17:27
[reed]drop proto, group, pairwise?17:27
[reed]and try again?17:27
asacyes17:27
[reed]ok17:27
asacreed__: do you remember how long it took for the first attempt that worked? (e.g. the simple config)?17:28
[reed]it was super quick17:28
[reed]I remember that17:28
asaccool17:28
asacreed__: ok, lets drop the default group... stuff for now17:29
[reed]ok, got an ip, but it took five DHCPDISCOVERs and `time ifup wlan0` returned 46.434s17:29
asac[reed]: hmm. so thats with the dropped proto... stuff?17:30
[reed]yes17:30
[reed]that's with proto, pairwise, and group removed17:30
asacreed__: do you still have the "simplish" config and could check whether its still snappy?17:30
[reed]sure17:30
asacmaybe try two or three times17:30
asacsometimes the driver is in bad shape ;)17:30
[reed]hmm, didn't work17:32
[reed]let me try again17:32
[reed]can't get it to work again17:37
[reed]:(17:37
asacreed__: urgh .... so maybe driver state busted?17:39
asacreed__: try ifdown wlan0 ....17:40
asacsudo modprobe -v -r iwlang17:40
asacand17:40
asacsudo modprobe -v iwlang17:40
[reed]iwlang not found17:40
asacerr iwlagn ;)17:40
* asac remembers iwl-agn :)17:40
[reed]worked... took 37.438s and four DHCPDISCOVERs17:41
[reed]with simple config17:42
asacreed__: ok. not really a sprint, but ok17:43
asacreed__: can you try to do the same one more time for the full (with all) and the group/pairwise/.. stripped conf?17:43
asace.g. remove driver first17:43
[reed]sure17:43
[reed]I've apparently locked up my laptop17:48
[reed]awesomne17:48
[reed]yep17:49
[reed]locked up17:49
[reed]restarting now17:49
[reed]grrr17:49
[reed]"System policy prevents restarting the system when other users are logged in"17:49
[reed]no, that's such a lie17:49
[reed]I'm the only one logged in17:49
asacyeah sorry. doing driver stuff always has the risk17:50
asacof locking stuff up17:50
asacintel drivers are just getting worse the more those folks work on them17:50
[reed]asac: so, group, pairwise, etc. removed and driver restarted took 44.393s18:00
[reed]and worked18:00
asac[reed]: doesnt sound convincing ;)18:03
[reed]yeah18:03
asac[reed]: ok thanks for testing now. most likely its a combination of driver/timeout tuning/dont passing defaults for group, ... when not needed18:04
asacwill bring up a test package for the latter two soon and let you know ;)18:04
[reed]ok18:06
asac[reed]: ok so the timeout is 25 seconds. if you want you could spin your own network-manager package and see if tuning that to ugly 60 seconds helps you to connect more frequently ;)18:11
asacthe other thing i will try is to remove the defaults for group/pairwise, etc. so in the end its quicker18:11
jerone-mobileasac: Trying to set the default homepage for firefox .. what is the best way .. I hear you would know18:13
asac[reed]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63698/18:13
asac[reed]: apt-get source network-manager; sudo apt-get build-dep network-manager; cd network-manager-*/; patch -p0 < /tmp/thispatchthings.txt; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b18:13
jerone-mobileasac: we are trying to set the homepage to be "www.igoogle.com" (which is mozilla blessed) .. but there is no clear way to do it .. tyring /etc/firefox-3.0/prefs/firefox.js turns up no luck .. ubufox seems to override setting the homepage18:14
[reed]asac: ok, trying18:14
asacjerone-mobile: yeah. in intrepid there is an example in /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/ubufox.js18:14
asacjerone-mobile: also look at the .properties fiel reffed therein18:15
asac[reed]: i hope i catched the right timeout-knob ... there are a bunch of different timeouts, but from code this looks like it and the syslog you pasted also seems to be 25s when it gives up18:16
jerone-mobileasac: ok tried that .. this is with hardy .. and it didn't seem to work I put: pref("browser.startup.homepage","http://www.igoogle.com");     in /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/firefox.js18:17
asacjerone-mobile: then look closer ;)18:17
asacthe example is different18:17
jerone-mobileasac: ah I see has to be a properties file18:18
asacjerone-mobile: yeah18:18
asac[reed]: -p0 is of course none-sense ;) -p1 but i guess you found that out ;)18:19
jcastroasac: one more slot left for openweek, sure you don't want it?18:24
jcastroasac: you can do 3g!18:24
[reed]asac: gimme a bit... I'm freezing18:27
* [reed] gets a coat18:27
[reed]it's 50F18:27
[reed]:(18:27
asacjcastro: thanks for the reminders. i think i will skip this open week (i participated every week so far!!). too busy and i will start a holiday in that week ;)18:28
jcastroyeah, I hear ya.18:28
asacnext time i will swamp you ;)18:29
jcastroheh18:30
[reed]asac: it's building now18:32
[reed]asac: ok, does dpkg-buildpackage install it and such?18:34
asac[reed]: no18:36
asac[reed]: cd ..; sudo dpkg -i network-manager*.deb libnm-*.deb18:36
[reed]ok18:37
asac[reed]: then comment stuff in /etc/network/interfaces (otherwise your device would be unmanaged in NM) and restart NM18:37
[reed]ok18:37
asacsudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart ;)18:37
[reed]yeah18:37
[reed]I know that :p18:38
asac[reed]: if it doesnt work oob give driveres a chance and restart system18:38
jerone-mobileasac: hmm.. well even doing the file way it seems ubufox takes over the homepage and makes it start.ubuntu.com/8.04 .. maybe this is something that only works with the Interpid build .. I'm trying to get it working in UNR 1.01 (based on hardy) with firefox-3.0.3 .. but no love .. any other ways?18:38
asac[reed]: you can verify that the new timeout is used by checking that the applet spins for about a minute obviously18:38
asacjerone-mobile: that "ubufox" win thing is fixed in intrepid, yes.18:39
asacjerone-mobile: you can backport that fix to your ubufox package easily though18:39
jerone-mobileasac: ok good to know I can ask someone to backport it18:39
asacjerone-mobile: give the guy who does this the following info: cherry-pick rev 80-81 from branch https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubufox/ubuntu.intrepid ... to your packaging branch18:40
jerone-mobileasac: big thanks!18:41
asacwelcome18:41
asacjerone-mobile: the ubufox win bug is 25991418:41
asac(as documented in changlog/commit)18:41
[reed]asac: wooo18:43
[reed]it connected18:43
asac[reed]: how long did it take?18:47
[reed]a whiler18:49
asac[reed]: also please double check that this still works after reboot and i will send out packages to the bug-mob ;)18:49
[reed]yeah18:49
[reed]I will18:49
[reed]going to class18:49
[reed]will try there18:49
asac[reed]: its ridiculous ... 45seconds to connect18:49
asac[reed]: cool18:50
asacthanks a bunch18:50
asactoo late for final unfortunately, but i am currently accumulating a bunch of fixes for a stable update to send out in the beginning18:50
jerone-mobileasac: are you and reed talking about wireless time out .. I see this issue actually from time to time .. it's not giving it enough time to get the dhcp address .. but then I try it a second time and it works18:51
asacjerone-mobile: what kind of net?18:51
jerone-mobileasac: wireless18:51
jerone-mobileasac: wireless 802.11n with WPA218:51
asacjerone-mobile: lol18:51
asacjerone-mobile: what kind of wpa?18:51
asaceap?18:51
asacor psk?18:51
asacwhich driver?18:51
jerone-mobileasac: iwlagn18:52
asacyeah ok18:52
asacjerone-mobile: is that PSK?18:52
jerone-mobileasac: eap18:52
asacjerone-mobile: what kind of eap?18:52
asacpeap? ttls?18:52
asacjerone-mobile: do you run that in the office? (are you in an office at all?)18:53
jerone-mobileasac: actually it's just WPA2 Personal18:53
asacjerone-mobile: ok18:53
asacjerone-mobile: thats even more crazy18:53
asacjerone-mobile: multiple APs with the same ESSID?18:53
asace.g. roaming?18:53
jerone-mobileasac: nope just one18:53
asacjerone-mobile: whats you lp id?18:54
jerone-mobileasac: I've seen it 3 times .. and it's allways after a cold boot.18:54
jerone-mobileasac: jerone18:54
asacjerone-mobile: ok i subscribe you to a WPA-EAP bug where i will send timeout tuned packages soon ;)18:54
asacdone18:54
asacbug 27218518:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272185 in network-manager-applet "[Intrepid] iwl3945 + iwl4965 -- network-manager will not connect to a WPA EAP (Enterprise) network (disassociating by local choice (reason=3) )" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27218518:54
jerone-mobileasac: ok18:54
asacjerone-mobile: not sure. but if its really timeout it should also fix you18:55
asac[reed]: another interesting thing to see would be if things become much quicker when only the right values for group/pairwise/... are setup in wpasupplicant.conf19:04
asac[reed]: if you feel like playing around with it, I would appreciate that input19:04
asac(reason: when its much quicker then its a wpasupplicant bug, otherwise most likely a driver thing)19:05
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jerone-mobileasac: so it look like customization is actually broken in intrepid .. while ubufox no longer over rides the homepage .. if you try to set the homepage .. you get no default home page at all20:47
asacjerone-mobile: well. it works here ;)20:50
asacjerone-mobile: just remove the comment from the example20:50
jerone-mobileasac: hmmm20:50
asacthat should work20:50
asacthe example .properties is also there20:50
jerone-mobileasac: yeah I'm trying it on my laptop now and when I add an entry into ubufox.js  .. I get nothing .. yeah I did the example file way .. let me do an update20:51
asacan update?20:55
asacjerone-mobile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63758/20:55
asacthats what i have20:55
asacjerone-mobile: take care that you must not have a "local" ubufox installed in your profile20:55
jerone-mobileasac: ok I got it .. not sure what I was doing wrong .. but thanks21:09
asacjerone-mobile: cool. welcome.21:18
ftaW: GPG error: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ECDCAD72428D7C0121:19
fta\o/21:19
asacfta: yeah. final bump21:26
asacfta: paste that in -devel ;) ... maybe someone reacts21:26
ftanow, same thing for ppas would be nice21:26
asacfta: huh?21:26
ftaddebs repo was not signed21:27
asacah ;)21:27
asacok21:27
* asac never noticed (scary)21:27
asacoh yeah i noticed ;)21:27
asacnow that you say it ;)21:27
asacok ... using NM on a server install ;)21:28
asacnow i just have to think whether i want to migrate my mailsystem to that thing21:28
ftai upgraded my desktop at work from hardy to intrepid, now, it's dead21:30
asacfta: yeah. you should have used NM ;)21:31
ftait was fine up to the reboot, but now, i can't login, neither gdm nor console.21:31
asaci mean 0.7 :)21:31
ftanope, it's not the network21:32
asacfta: you say it also is dead when sitting in front of it?21:32
ftait seems there's not enough memory to start the login shell21:32
asacsounds ... erm, unlikely21:32
ftaindeed21:32
asacfta: what happens?21:32
ftait's stuck after the password21:33
ftai will retry tomorrow, but now, the box ping but i can't ssh it21:34
asacfta: use nfs?21:34
ftanope21:34
asacfor home or something?`21:34
asacok21:34
asacthen no clue21:34
ftame neither21:34
asacwhen you see that you should report it i guess21:34
ftait's difficult to explain21:35
ftahuge split, we were just 3 on my side :)21:47
ftahttp://ppa-search.appspot.com/21:54
asac@time22:06
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