[02:01] <cflowers> .
[02:37] <carbon_monoxide> greetings all!
[02:38] <carbon_monoxide> is there any repository for Mono 2.0 or newer for Ubuntu 8.4?
[06:07] <arooni-mobile> with: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[06:07] <arooni-mobile> ;  how do i fix that on ubuntu hardy?
[07:28] <carbon_monoxide> Hi there
[07:28] <carbon_monoxide> do i really have to compile Mono myself rather than apt-get/aptitude it? this is not debian/ubuntu style
[07:30] <carbon_monoxide> !mono
[08:39] <phaidros> how would one monitor a complete directory and trigger an action if something in there cahnged?
[08:40] <phaidros> fam and gamin seem to be more oriented for the desktop an I don't want to expose RPC to the outer world :)
[08:40] <phaidros> so, what would be a recommendatable technology for file monitoring on servers?
[08:47] <soren> phaidros: For real-time monitoring?
[08:48] <soren> carbon_monoxide: No, why would you suggest that?
[08:49] <carbon_monoxide> soren: because i can't find Mono in repo
[08:49] <henkjan> carbon_monoxide: http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[08:49] <soren> carbon_monoxide: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=mono
[08:53] <carbon_monoxide> thanks henkjan and soren!
[08:56] <carbon_monoxide> soren: mono package seems is ready on 8.04
[08:56] <soren> carbon_monoxide: Mono has been in Ubuntu for ages.
[09:23] <carbon_monoxide> soren: mono is available for dapper, feisty, and gutsy when i look into the URL you've provide me
[09:29] <Koon> carbon_monoxide: scroll down
[09:29] <carbon_monoxide> hi Koon! do you mean mono-common?
[09:30] <Koon> carbon_monoxide: apparently the mono packages have been refactored
[09:32] <carbon_monoxide> Koon: i see. thanks for the assist! :)
[09:32] <Koon> depending on what you're after, mono-runtime looks promising
[09:40] <carbon_monoxide> Koon: so the mono-mcs seems like the c# compiler
[09:41] <Koon> carbon_monoxide: I have absolutely no Mono clue.
[09:41] <carbon_monoxide> Koon: me too. no knowledge on .NET
[09:53] <phaidros> soren: yes, for realtime monitoring
[09:55] <henkjan> phaidros: http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[09:55] <henkjan> carbon_monoxide: that url was not for you :)
[10:30] <phaidros> thx henkjan, looks like the solution I searched :)
[10:35] <phaidros> to be precise: incron is the chosen one
[11:30] <alexharrington> Any libvirt gurus about? I'm trying to get kvm live migration working on hardy, but can't get to qemu monitor per the docs I've found on the kvm site
[11:30] <alexharrington> i just get a prompt "serial0" where the "qemu>" prompt should be
[11:30] <phaidros> anyone familiar with incron? how to declare a whole directory recursive? (/tmp/foo/* is not working unfortunately)
[11:31] <soren> alexharrington: You can't get access to the monitor, when you're using libvirt.
[11:31] <soren> alexharrington: ...by design.
[11:32] <alexharrington> soren: ok, any idea how to do migration via libvirt then?
[11:33] <soren> alexharrington: Not possible.
[11:33] <soren> alexharrington: In Hardy, at least.
[11:33] <soren> alexharrington: In Jaunty, probably.
[11:34] <alexharrington> soren: ok - thanks for your help. Tis a shame, we'll just have to wait. Cheers
[11:34] <soren> alexharrington: np
[12:17] <paul68> I have a server with 2 ethernet cards for which eth0 is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd eth is that going to interfear with my current setup?
[12:48] <paul68> I have a server with 2 ethernet cards for which eth0 is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd eth is that going to interfear with my current setup?
[12:50] <ikonia> paul68: depends on your routing, but most likley - no
[12:50] <alexharrington> paul68: It depends on how you configure the second card. Assuming you put it on a different subnet then it shouldn't cause your original any problem
[12:52] <paul68> ikonia so I can easely modify my interfaces file and start the 2nd eth accordingly
[12:52] <ikonia> yes, as long as your routing is sound, you'll have no problems
[12:54] <paul68> I still have to create my firewall that's the reason that I want to fire up my 2nd eth
[13:01] <paul68> at this point my router is still handling the firewall part but I want to change my server into firewal router dns and dhcp server and install the router as ap on my network
[13:05] <ikonia> paul68: ok, so what's the question ?
[13:06] <paul68> the original question was if I could do this and the reason why I wanted to do that
[13:06] <ikonia> paul68 you can do it, although it seems a bit pointles, it depends on your needs
[13:08] <paul68> well I want to prepare my system to change to the mentioned config with as less downtime possible since my pregnant wife gets very dangerous when she doesn't have her internet
[13:08] <ikonia> ok
[13:09] <paul68> can I modify my interfaces file and restart my networking from remote?
[13:10] <ikonia> sure
[13:11] <paul68> Ikonia thanks for your time
[13:11] <ikonia> no problem
[13:31] <bogey-> nano > vim ?
[13:37] <audela> Hello, I'd like to make a certificate that will be signed by a authority elsewhere... I try the command with openssl and it ask about a pem passphrase, will it be necessary for the authority on signon procedure and each time when I restart apache ? If
[13:38] <audela> yes how to bypass it ?
[13:40] <_ruben> use empty passphrase
[13:41] <audela> it does not work and ask for a 4 digit passphrase
[13:48] <audela> the command tested is : openssl req -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout cle-privee.key -out cle-publique.req
[14:09] <zul> meeting in a hour?
[14:12] <Koon> hmm... in two I think.
[14:12] <Koon> hmm no
[14:12] <mathiaz> zul: 15:00 UTC
[14:12] <mathiaz> Koon: ^^
[14:13] <Koon> My Google calendar entry is confused ;)
[14:13] <mathiaz> Koon: yeah - welcome to DST
[14:13] <mathiaz> Koon: or whatever time saving period we're in
[14:28] <nijaba> 15:00 UTC == 30 min from now, right?
[14:34] <Koon> nijaba: yes
[15:17] <spiekey> Hello!
[15:18] <spiekey> this might be a little off topic but i know here are some smart ppl :)
[15:18] <spiekey> i am failing to compile syslog http://pastebin.com/m4bf1b114
[15:18] <spiekey> tha autor says: #
[15:18] <spiekey> try adding a -ldbi to the link command line.
[15:19] <spiekey> but i dont know how?! Whats the syntax? :)
[15:22] <spiekey> anyone? :)
[15:25] <SchneeSchwarz> spiekey: is libdbi0-dev installed on the machine? But: why do you want to compile syslog in the first place.
[15:31] <spiekey> SchneeSchwarz: because i need native postgres support :)
[15:33] <spiekey> SchneeSchwarz: yes, its installed.
[15:41] <SchneeSchwarz> I'm not familiar with compiling syslog-ng. But the generic first step I'd try is to look at the output of ./configure --help (in the dir where you unpacked the sources). Maybe there's an option to enable pgsql support.
[15:44] <SchneeSchwarz> If all else fails, you could execute line 4 of your paste manually after adding -ldbi to it.
[15:45] <spiekey> that worked! :))
[16:16] <iAlien> I am hopeing that somebody has an idea for a work around for a problem i am having with ubuntu server 8.04. It wont install on a Dell Latitude D600 I have at the office. It appears to be a known issue, I am just hopeing there is a workaround that i have not found
[16:21] <Deeps> looked on launchpad?
[16:24] <iAlien> kernel panic
[16:24] <iAlien> this kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu 0:6
[16:25] <iAlien> unable to book please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[16:29] <andol> iAlien: Sounds like your D600 doesn't support PAE?
[16:29] <andol> iAlien: Is it neccesary to run the server-kernel, or would it work with the generic ubuntu kernel?
[16:31] <iAlien> thats what i'm thinking -- i am just needing to use it as a test bed so i can develop a website with out having it on a live server
[16:31] <iAlien> just need apache / php / mysql
[16:31] <iAlien> and sshd
[16:31] <trashguy> ?
[16:31] <trashguy> why wouldnt it support PAE?
[16:32] <trashguy> hwo old is this thing
[16:32] <iAlien> im guessing 3 or 4 years
[16:32] <iAlien> was here when i started working here
[16:34] <trashguy> should be fine
[16:35] <trashguy> p4 right?
[16:35] <iAlien> Pentium m --- however we do have a few that have the p4
[16:36] <soren> iAlien: You need to get the generic kernel installed.
[16:36] <soren> iAlien: Boot the server cd, and enter rescue mode. go through the dialogues, and when you're in a shell on the installed system, do an apt-get install linux-generic.
[16:39] <iAlien> thanks
[16:41] <iAlien> i knew there had to be an easier way then just installing the desktop version
[16:43] <andol> iAlien: Another option could be to use the alternate-cd
[16:44] <iAlien> just started the apt-get
[16:46] <iAlien> sure seems that linux has changed alot - i don't remember it being this easy
[16:47] <andol> iAlien: It wasn't :)
[16:50] <freaky_t> i hope i can upgrade from ubuntu hardy to intrepid without any problems on my server in 2-3 days
[16:50] <freaky_t> maybe i should wait another week so any occuring bugs will be fixed
[16:50] <trashguy> i doubt its pae messing his stuff up
[16:50] <iAlien> was 7 years when i last worked with well at that time freebsd
[16:50] <trashguy> dell laptops are ntorious fail
[16:51] <trashguy> freebsd isnt linux ^^
[16:51] <iAlien> true
[16:51] <trashguy> its a crime to associate it with linux
[16:52] <trashguy> I actually run the desktop version of ubuntu with the server kernel though
[16:52] <trashguy> its win
[16:55] <iAlien> i have the desktop version on a few systems here ( was only able to get away with it cause we were out of licenses for AV software ) for internet terminals for clients
[16:58] <espacious> why i get this when i try to rename a file ?
[16:58] <espacious> Bareword "contacts_nagios2" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[16:58] <espacious> Bareword "cfg" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[17:02] <iAlien> thanks that worked :)
[17:25] <jason^> i have a server that i'd like any mail going to any user to go to a different server such as my isp email account, how can this be done?  i've thought of using a .forward file, but that doesn't take care of any mail going to any user
[17:29] <pltmnky> howdy :) anybody here great with cups and kerberos?
[17:35] <nijaba> jason^: what about using /etc/aliases? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man5/aliases.html
[17:37] <nijaba> !ask | pltmnky
[17:40] <pltmnky> :P well, we have a printserver, and a kdc and ldap servers already working and set up correctly. I was able to follow the cups docs on getting cups to auth against kerberos (meaning ask for a password everytime we print). (there are _no_ windows/macs in the mix). I would like for cups to check against the existing kerberos ticket for user printing
[17:47] <espacious> why i get this when i try to rename a file ?
[17:47] <espacious> Bareword "cfg" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[17:51] <espacious> oh mv did the trick
[17:52] <andol> espacious: What command did you try to use at first?
[17:54] <espacious> andol rename filename.ext newname.ext
[17:54] <nijaba> pltmnky: did you check out http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/kerberos.html ?
[18:15] <kirkland> i'd like to share /tmp/share using an ubuntu server, to another ubuntu client
[18:15] <kirkland> and i'm having a hell of a time doing it
[18:17] <pltmnky> exit
[18:17] <pltmnky> lawl
[18:17] <pltmnky> nijaba: yes, though it still asks for the password x.x (I'd like to avoid this by using the existing ticket like samba is able to)
[18:27] <ctx144k> hi all
[18:27] <ctx144k> how can i get the uuid of my disks on shell?
[19:27] <yann2_> I've got 500MB of swap used on a server - but plenty of ram not used at all. Is there a way to find out what is using all this space? nothing shows up in top
[19:33] <Rayn> Hey guys, is it possible for me to switch from 32-bit ubuntu server to 64-bit remotely?
[19:37] <deshantm> Rayn: http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/10/22/upgrading-a-server-to-64bit-xen/
[19:39] <Rayn> interesting, thanks
[19:40] <Rayn> so this basically says I can replace the kernel, then work on all the other stuff.. I wonder if I can just install a 64bit kernel and then change the repository configs
[21:31] <cflowers> where can i find really good doc on the new system that replaces init.d?
[21:32] <cflowers> with some details
[21:33]  * lamont slaps 290443 into the invalid bucket, where it belongs
[21:36] <kraut> new init.d?
[21:36] <kraut> like SCA on solaris?
[21:37] <kraut> cflowers: did you read that? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit
[21:39] <yann2_> 2006-06...
[21:40] <kraut> dewd, you can read!
[21:40] <kraut> yann2_: ReplacementInit (zuletzt geändert am 2008-09-13 03:26:17 durch grey)
[21:41] <yann2_> he just added a comment :)
[21:41] <kraut> FFS
[21:46] <cflowers> anyone? bueller?
[21:51] <cflowers> well, i found it. "upstart". some info here : http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:59] <slicslak> i can't remember the name of the cli app that can be used for high level configuration of packages (LAMP server, DNS, etc.)
[21:59] <mathiaz> slicslak: tasksel
[21:59] <slicslak> thx
[22:17] <slicslak> what do i need to do to add an admin?  just use adduser and add the user to the sudo group?
[22:18] <trashguy> yes
[22:20] <mathiaz> slicslak: add the user to the admin group
[22:21] <trashguy> thats right
[22:21] <trashguy> ubuntu just allows admin group to sudo
[22:23] <slicslak> odd, on a ubuntu-server install i did last month the admin group existed (and no sudo group).  but on this install of ubuntu-server there is no admin group but there is a sudo group.
[22:23] <slicslak> have you guys heard of this type of setup with ubuntu?
[22:24] <mathiaz> slicslak: which version of ubuntu-server are you using?
[22:24] <slicslak> /proc/version says Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7
[22:26] <trashguy> slicslak, you can also
[22:26] <trashguy> just ad your username to the sudoers file
[22:27] <slicslak> ya, and inspecting /etc/sudoers only shows root in there.  how odd.  so this definitely isn't a default ubuntu install.  does this sound like a derivitive you guys have heard of at all?
[22:28] <mathiaz> slicslak: how did you install the system?
[22:28] <slicslak> mathiaz, i didn't.  it's a dedicated server that was setup for me.
[22:29] <mathiaz> slicslak: hm - well. It may be specific to your hosting company then.
[22:29] <slicslak> right.  :/
[22:29] <mathiaz> slicslak: 4.2.3-2ubuntu7 is from Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 LTS
[22:30] <slicslak> ya, thanks mathiaz.  i'll have to complain to them then and ask them what else they have changed
[23:23] <J-_> Has anyone installed wordpress on Hardy Heron(server)? I need some help.
[23:24] <slicslak> J-_, it's pretty easy, but have you tried #wordpress?
[23:26] <J-_> slicslak:  Yes. I've installed it and everything. Just not sure what to chmod /var/www/wp-content to. I did a "sudo chmod -R 777 wp-content" But, I'm not entirely sure if that's right. I've sftp'd into the server to look at the directory and it looks like anyone can create and delete files. And, I'm not sure if I should chmod 666 .htaccess
[23:35] <J-_> slicslak:  any ideas?
[23:35] <slicslak> J-_, never 777 your stuff
[23:35] <slicslak> i don't know why that keeps perpetuating in the forums
[23:35] <J-_> :(
[23:35] <slicslak> I recommend:
[23:36] <slicslak> sudo chmod ug=rwX,o=
[23:36] <slicslak> that will give the user and group read and write and other nothing
[23:36] <slicslak> the X makes directories only executable (readable in that case)
[23:37] <slicslak> or you might try:
[23:37] <slicslak> sudo chmod ug=rwX,o=rX
[23:37] <slicslak> that's also an ok setup and will let apache read your files if it's not the owner or in the group
[23:41] <anthony> Hi, I know in the last release cycle NUT had a MIR that I believe was accepted, yet I haven't succeeded in finding documentation for it in the Ubuntu Server Guide or on the wiki.  Could someone point me in the right direction?  (I'm hoping to set up a new server & UPS tomorrow.)
[23:41] <J-_> slicslak:  the 2nd one didn't work well. It says, "You need to make this file writable before you can save your changes." Then states to do, http://codex.wordpress.org/Changing_File_Permissions
[23:43] <J-_> Maybe this is why I used drupal a while ago
[23:43] <J-_> BLEH