[00:00] <LjL> dug_: apparently down.
[00:01] <LjL> misc--: are they the same model? because older moders used an atheros card indeed, but the 901, 1000 and others have a ralink
[00:01] <jrib> dug_: was down for me earlier too, then worked about 30 minutes ago
[00:01] <flav0rl3ss> exit
[00:02] <flav0rl3ss> well that's the wrong window
[00:02] <hsl> has anyone a clue how I can restart my upgrade process? http://pastebin.com/d647938ed
[00:02] <misc--> LjL: yeah exactly the same. I'll double check with lspci actually
[00:02] <dug_> thanks
[00:02] <rww> hsl: once you've done what it says, you should be able to continue the upgrade process by reissuing the same command you issued the first time :)
[00:03] <jamesrdorn> hsl: dpkg --configure -a maybe?
[00:03] <hsl> rww: it tells me there is no new release
[00:03] <misc--> LjL: yep exactly the same. Maybe I have a module loaded on the one that doesn't work that is conflicting.
[00:03] <Yuretsz> jrib: I've tried to do DISPLAY=:0.0 vlc but still have the same error
[00:03] <hsl> so it thinks it's already 8.04
[00:03] <NeoNinja> Flannel you here
[00:03] <LjL> misc--: not a clue
[00:04] <jrib> Yuretsz: with the same user?
[00:04] <hsl> jamesrdorn: that command just gives me a new prompt, so it does nothing
[00:04] <Yuretsz> jrib: Yes
[00:04] <rww> hsl: can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?
[00:04] <redwhitewaldo> can someone help me figure out why skype will not load?
[00:04] <stemount> hi guys - if I was to stop my machine from logging? could I symlink /var/log/ to /dev/null
[00:04] <stemount> for example
[00:05] <jrib> Yuretsz: does it work for you from a tty on your computer?
[00:05] <LjL> stemount: i don't think your syslog would like that - at all
[00:05] <rww> redwhitewaldo: since you just upgraded to 8.10, #ubuntu+1 should be able to help you. #ubuntu is only for 8.04 help :)
[00:05] <Syco54645> hello, all of my fonts are huge in gtk.  is there a way to set them to be smaller?
[00:05] <hsl> rww: http://pastebin.com/d6930c320
[00:05] <LjL> stemount: i'd rather edit /etc/syslog.conf
[00:05] <Syco54645> like my menu fonts and such
[00:05] <redwhitewaldo> rww: but maybe i can get help here. i'm desperate.
[00:05] <stemount> LjL: can you apt-get remove syslog?
[00:05] <stemount> or, how about a volume mounted as a tmpfs
[00:05] <Yuretsz> jrib: Wait, I'll try
[00:06] <LjL> stemount: if you do that, i believe logs will be written without the aid of syslogd
[00:06] <LjL> stemount: a tmpfs should work
[00:06] <stemount> cool
[00:06] <stemount> thanks
[00:06] <mudkip> does anyone know how to unmount a drive
[00:06] <mudkip> i tried unmount but it isnt working
[00:06] <LjL> mudkip: sudo umount /dev/whatever
[00:06] <rww> hsl: Looks like you got most of the way through the install. A sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, should do it
[00:06] <mudkip> umount? i tried unmount
[00:06] <LjL> mudkip: umount.
[00:06] <mudkip> oh......
[00:07] <Yuretsz> jrib: I've found a soluti. I ran screen in my xterm
[00:07] <mrichman> I have two nics eth0 and eth1...how do I add a default gw for network 10.4.15.0 on eth1 ?
[00:07] <TornadoChas3r> Hello
[00:07] <LjL> mrichman: you edit /etc/network/interfaces, module whatever network-manager might want to do.
[00:07] <LjL> modulo*
[00:07] <Yuretsz> jrib: And screen -x over ssh. Now all programs ran in Xsession. Thanks for your help
[00:07] <dug_> redwhitewaldo: when you upgrade, medibuntu is disabled, you can re-enable it and upgrade skype but medibuntu is overloaded today I think: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[00:07] <jrib> Yuretsz: k, though what we were trying should work.  It works for me on TTYs, but I assume it would work on ssh as well.  Glad you got it
[00:08] <TornadoChas3r> no one is responding in cacti so i thought i might ask here how i enable bandwithdh monnitoring for cacti with ubuntu
[00:08] <hspaans> mrichman: a second default gateway?
[00:08] <hsl> rww: dist-upgrade gives me this: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:08] <redwhitewaldo> dug_: yes, but i got skype.deb from skype.com. is that not good?
[00:08] <hsl> rww: can't imagine everything is updated
[00:08] <mrichman> hspaans: actually, this is a VM on a host with 2 nics, public and private...trying to get eth0 and eth1 to talk over the bridged network
[00:09] <hspaans> mrichman: bridging is layer 2 and routing is layer 3
[00:09] <subzid> algum brasileiro ae
[00:09] <systm> Gentoo has rc-update to add things, how do i do the same for ubuntu
[00:09] <LjL> !br | subzid
[00:10] <runman> update-rc.d
[00:10] <subzid> ubottu
[00:10] <mrichman> hspaans: okay...i understand...just overwhelmed...right now i get "SIOCADDRT: no such process\nFailed to bring up eth0.
[00:10] <subzid> systm
[00:10] <subzid> desculpe
[00:10] <subzid> é que la ninguem esta me ajudando
[00:10] <mrichman> hspaans: when doing networking restart
[00:11] <dreamnid> mrichman:  technically, you can only have one default gw for your machine
[00:11] <LjL> subzid: aqui solamente falamos ingles, fale ingles o tem paciencia e espera em #ubuntu-br
[00:11] <dreamnid> mrichman: probably going to your public nic
[00:11] <dreamnid> mrichman: out of curiosity, are you at Softlayer?
[00:11] <mrichman> dreamnid: nope
[00:11] <dreamnid> ok
[00:11] <mrichman> dreamnid: this is probably more for #vmware but there are more people i here
[00:11] <hspaans> technically multiple gateways isn't an issue, but you should be aware what you do and what the OS does. fallback or round robin
[00:12] <systm> runman: how do i get something to start at boot then?
[00:12] <redeemed> does anybody know of a solution for syncing a windows mobile phone
[00:12] <subzid> instead of starting the desktop that starting a print busybox ssh
[00:12] <subzid> in my ubuntu which may be how do I get
[00:13] <dreamnid> mrichman:  Perhaps we can help you better if you tell us your network setup
[00:13] <LjL> redeemed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[00:13] <subzid> ..
[00:13] <runman> update-rc.d whatever defaults
[00:13] <TornadoChas3r> Anyone here know a little bit no one is talking in acti
[00:13] <TornadoChas3r> cacti**
[00:13] <subzid> 	
[00:13] <subzid> instead of starting the desktop that starting a print busybox ssh
[00:13] <subzid> in my ubuntu which may be how do I get
[00:13] <mrichman> dreamnid: okay, i've got a windows server host running vmware with an ubuntu guest....2 NICs on the host: public & private. I set up VMware with 2 bridged adapters....no clue which adapter corresponds to eth0 and eth1 on the guest
[00:14] <FloodBot1> subzid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <runman> or update-rc.d whatever start 2 3 4...
[00:14] <rww> hsl: try apt-get -f install
[00:14] <subzid> ...
[00:14] <liquid> Hello all
[00:15] <subzid> 	
[00:15] <subzid> someone help me
[00:15] <liquid> Im trying to get the HDMI working, its not displaying anything
[00:15] <rww> hsl: I'm clutching at straws, though, 'cause I don't do upgrades very often :(
[00:15] <dreamnid> mrichman: ok, so why do you want 2 default gateways?
[00:16] <mrichman> dreamnid: i guess i dont...at this point i just want a route out
[00:16] <redeemed> wow does anybody know when support for windows mobile 6 is comming out??
[00:16] <dreamnid> mrichman: ok - yeah, I think you just want the default route to be the gateway of your public nic
[00:16] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody in here know if there's an SCIM selection for Greek?
[00:16] <dreamnid> mrichman: I'm not that familiar w/ bridging though :(
[00:17] <mrichman> dreamnid: thats ok i'll ask in #vmware
[00:21] <GodfatherofEire> Anyone know if there's anythin for SCIM on Greek?
[00:21] <ppn> hello
[00:22] <ppn> how can i test putty in my own pc
[00:22] <ppn> ?
[00:22] <CarlFK> ppn: install an ssh server...
[00:22] <subzid> instead of starting the desktop that starting a print busybox ssh
[00:22] <subzid> in my ubuntu which may be how do I get
[00:23] <afeijo> I need help installing ubuntu into a eeePC
[00:23] <hsl> rich_freecomm: restarting atm :-)
[00:23] <afeijo> I manage to load iso to USB drive
[00:23] <CarlFK> ppn: but that's not 'easy' on windows, so assming you have a ubuntu box, apt-get install openssh-server and connec to that
[00:23] <afeijo> I boot with my usb, it start loading ubuntu on the eeepc, and now it shows: kernel panic
[00:23] <mudkip> does anyone know if there is an ubuntu operating system for mobile devices
[00:24] <CarlFK> mudkip: you might be able to get U to work on the freeruner (it runs debian) but that's about it
[00:24] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I get see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not ure what's wrong
[00:24] <amason__> hey all, quick question re dpkg, i'd like to do a complete re-install of a package. when i do apt-get remove pkgname then apt-get install pkgname it doesn't re-create the files in /etc
[00:25] <amason__> how can i get it to do this step
[00:25] <mudkip> ok does anyone know if there is an ubuntu operating system for portable computers (laptops/notebooks)?
[00:25] <dug_> mudkip: ubuntu mobile
[00:25] <tarelerulz1> I have been using abobe flash player for months.  Have any of you found something telling on how to make it not run up the cpu ? It can be anywhere from 40-70 and 100 at times .
[00:25] <amason__> mudkip: there is ubuntu mobile
[00:25] <subzid> instead of starting the desktop that starting a print busybox ssh
[00:25] <subzid> in my ubuntu which may be how do I get
[00:26] <amason__> tarelerulz1: you might need to ask on the adobe forums as its not software which the freesoftware community have access to
[00:26] <esac> amason__, try apt-get purge [packagename]
[00:26] <dug_> tarelerulz1: I don't know, but if you upgrade to intrepid and set up medibuntu, you'll have flash 10 installed instead of flash 9, maybe it is better
[00:26] <afeijo> need help installing ubuntu on eeePC, kernel panic !
[00:26] <esac> amason__, that removes config files as well
[00:26] <amason__> esac: thanks
[00:26] <Randall> I have a question on how to get a Geforce4: MX 420 card to work on hardy. WHen i go through hardware drivers I need to get nvidia-glx-legacy but instead it gets nvidia-glc
[00:26] <mudkip> does anyone know here what a "kernel panic" is
[00:27] <Randall> nvidia-glx*
[00:27] <esac> mudkip, BSOD for linux
[00:27] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I get see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not ure what's wrong
[00:27] <mudkip> what's BSOD
[00:27] <tarelerulz1> dug_ are you using intrepid and if so how is adobe flash working for you ?
[00:27] <GodfatherofEire> Blue screen of Death
[00:27] <Blowfeld> Hey Guys.. how do i list all the computer with its names which are connected to my LAN?!?
[00:27] <dug_> tarelerulz1: works fine, but i didn't notice problems in hardy either
[00:27] <Randall> seij0: Do u see wireless in nm-applet?
[00:28] <mudkip> hi does anyone know if it's "an ubuntu install" or "a ubuntu install"
[00:28] <ppn> witch ssh server did you recomend me ?
[00:28] <esac> mudkip, a kernel is the core of the operating system. it is the lowest level to interact with hardware devices and provides support for memory management, etc.. it runs in its own 'layer' of the processor. when there is an error in the kernel, there is no fallback mechanism (unlike normal applications) so the only thing you can do is display debug information about the state of the system and freeze. this is a kernel panic
[00:28] <jrib> !ssh | ppn
[00:28] <Randall> ﻿ have a question on how to get a Geforce4: MX 420 card to work on hardy. WHen i go through hardware drivers I need to get nvidia-glx-legacy but instead it gets nvidia-glx
[00:29] <seij0> Randall: No I don't. That is the problem. I only see Dial-Up
[00:29] <tarelerulz1> dug_ your lucky man. I had problem since I installed in on 7.10 and 8.04 . It works right sometimes ,but sometimes it just push my cpu up a lot.  I mean I know 40 % is not normal for media player to do that.
[00:29] <Randall> seij0: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[00:29] <mudkip> esac: how can you recover from a kernel panic then?
[00:29] <ppn> thanskl
[00:30] <mrichman> Why do I get connection refused when trying to ssh localhost ?
[00:30] <seij0> Randall: Nothing seems to have happened
[00:30] <esac> mudkip, reboot. if it happens again then it is usually a bad module that you can try to blacklist from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist , if you can boot off a system rescue cd. if it still happens past that, then it could be a misconfigured kernel or bad hardware. you could file a bug report on launchpad.net and have somebody help you to diagnose it
[00:30] <Randall> seij0: if nothing happens it means it works right click on nm-applet and see if there is a wireless option
[00:31] <mudkip> what about the documents i was working on in pico?
[00:31] <Randall> seij0: also run ndiswrapper -l and pastebin the output for me
[00:31] <seij0> Randal: Nope, nothing
[00:31] <mudkip> err nano
[00:31] <esac> mudkip, if you didnt save them, then those changes are gone
[00:31] <mudkip> :(
[00:31] <esac> mudkip, sorry :(
[00:32] <Randall> ﻿ ﻿ have a question on how to get a Geforce4: MX 420 card to work on hardy. WHen i go through hardware drivers I need to get nvidia-glx-legacy but instead it gets nvidia-glx
[00:32] <afeijo> kernel panic err=1, anyone?
[00:32] <vexeu> can anyone tell me how difficult it is to dualboot ubuntu/xp on 2different hdd?
[00:32] <mudkip> hi does anyone know if it's "an ubuntu install" or "a ubuntu install"
[00:33] <passbe|work> i have just accidentally corrupted a file that i was working on. /var/www/project/index.php. this is a long shot but would ubuntu or apache have cached it, the index.php~ file is useless as it is days old.
[00:33] <MolePrinzzz> Hi.  In Gnome there is a control panel applet to show current temperature and such for my timezone.  Is there a similar function under Kubuntu please?
[00:33] <tarelerulz1> How would you find out about the next version of Ubuntu ? the past 8.04
[00:33] <MolePrinzzz> tarelerulz1: Next version is 8.10 intrepid Ibex, due for release On the 30th October.  Every 6 months.
[00:33] <GodfatherofEire> Does anyone know if theres a Greek package for SCIM?
[00:34] <Randall> ﻿ ﻿ have a question on how to get a Geforce4: MX 420 card to work on hardy. WHen i go through hardware drivers I need to get nvidia-glx-legacy but instead it gets nvidia-glx
[00:34] <GodfatherofEire> Cause I haven't found anything so far.
[00:34] <chad> any idea as to why i cannot ping local resources on my net?  DNS is setup and I am getting my info from dhcp, i just cant ping anything on this net via name
[00:34] <seij0> Randall: airplus: driver installed bcmwl5: driver installed device (14E4:4318) present (alternative driver: bcm43xx)
[00:34] <MolePrinzzz> chad: Try commenting out the server or domain line in /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <Randall> seij0: well i'm out of ideas cause everything seems to be fine so keep asking in here
[00:35] <chad> MolePrinzzz: trying
[00:35] <misc--> does anyone else have the problem where if you have a wpa2 wireless connection, and then reboot, it will set it back to wpa and you have to manually go into network connections to set it back to wpa2. It's Hardy H.
[00:35] <esac> !repeat | Randall
[00:35] <dug_> Randall: did you see this thread by chance: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634898
[00:36] <woodyjlw> trying to install java to play a game on ubuntu 8.10, ,, Reading package lists... Done
[00:36] <woodyjlw> Building dependency tree
[00:36] <woodyjlw> Reading state information... Done
[00:36] <woodyjlw> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package
[00:36] <FloodBot1> woodyjlw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:36] <chad> MolePrinzzz: ahh .. it looks like it only has the dns servers for my external network and not my internal one .. should i just add a line for my internal dns server as well ?
[00:37] <MolePrinzzz> chad: Probably a good idea.
[00:37] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[00:37] <r0nda> helo
[00:37] <Randall> dug_: I'm having the same problem as the last 2 posters and i'm not sure how to get nvidia-glx-legacy
[00:38] <chad> MolePrinzzz: would that work to just give it the ip for the cable modem router ?
[00:38] <MolePrinzzz> chad: If that's the one assigning addresses, then yes.
[00:39] <chad> MolePrince: well that is done but now my ping to "nas" resolves somewhere out on the cable modem network not inside mine
[00:39] <r0nda> are there any equivalent office suite to ms office in ubuntu ?
[00:40] <chad> r0nda: openoffice
[00:40] <MolePrince> chad: dig nas and see if it shows an internal IP as well.  Also try only including your internal DNS in resolve.conf
[00:40] <afeijo> :(
[00:41] <woodyjlw> can anyone help me install java on ubuntu
[00:41] <elijul> Hello, if I delete Vista on partition sda1 and leave ubuntu on sda2 then reformat sda1 into ext3 and a swap partition, will it affect my grub boot loader? Is grub allways on root when installed by ubuntu?
[00:41] <Randall> ﻿ ﻿ have a question on how to get a Geforce4: MX 420 card to work on hardy. When i go through hardware drivers I need to get nvidia-glx-legacy but instead it gets nvidia-glx
[00:41] <freetown> the hardy livecd don't come with the correct libdevmapper and kernel drivers?
[00:41] <crdlb> Randall: nvidia-glx supports your card
[00:42] <freetown> running sudo vgchange -a y gave me an error about incompatible libdevmapper / kernel driver
[00:42] <Randall> crdlb: When i enable it, it always boots to low-graphics mode how do i remedy this
[00:43] <chad> MolePrince: i removed everything but the nameserver 192.168.1.1 address but still cant ping it or any of my internal machines via name .. dig gives this error:  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[00:43]  * Tako-san is away: off to eat
[00:43] <etrask> Could someone help me understand why I cannot seem to boot from the Ubuntu live CD?
[00:43] <etrask> Every time I select "try Ubuntu without changing your computer" it freezes on that screen and I have to reboot
[00:43] <crdlb> Randall: I don't know; are you rebooting?
[00:44] <Randall> crdlb: yes, that's when the error comes up and it messes up my resolution as well
[00:45] <alesan> hey
[00:45] <dug_> Randall: just grasping at straws, but you might run (or install) nvidia-settings and see what it lets you do
[00:45] <alesan> I am with my mother she's still tryiung to install openssh-server
[00:45] <MolePrince> chad: Are you able to resolve external addresses still?
[00:45] <alesan> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:45] <alesan> Segmentation faulta dei pacchetti in corso... 0%
[00:45] <alesan> aa@oggiono:~$
[00:46] <chad> MolePrince: yes .. getting google and yahoo
[00:46] <alesan> so apt-get gives a segfault, what do you think I can let her do to solve
[00:47] <chad> MolePrince: sad part is that my windows vm running on this machine can ping everything else via name
[00:47] <elijul> If I delete Vista on partition sda1 and leave ubuntu on sda2 then reformat sda1 into ext3 and a swap partition, will it affect my grub boot loader? I see a grub directory under boot in root
[00:47] <frogscott> Little help getting videos to play in mozilla...pops shut everytime
[00:47] <woodyjlw> can anyone help me install java on ubuntu
[00:48] <chad> frogscott:  flash videos ?
[00:48] <frogscott> chad yes all videos on you tube
[00:48] <MolePrince> chad: Check which nameserver your windows vm is using and try that one.
[00:48] <chad> frogscott: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:48] <Randall> dug_: is sudo apt-get nvidia-settings the right cmd?
[00:48] <frogscott> already did that
[00:49] <Randall> dug_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[00:49] <jbcrawford> woodyjlw: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <chad> MolePrince: its using the nas tunnel to my linux host .. so in essence the box that cant resolve the name is resolving it
[00:49] <crdlb> Randall: this can be very hard to debug due to ubuntu's failsafe stuff :/
[00:50] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[00:50] <Randall> crdlb: i have messed with the xorg file but with intrepid coming out will it possibly fix my problem
[00:50] <dug_> Randall: yeah
[00:51] <crdlb> Randall: on intrepid, there is no proprietary nvidia driver available
[00:51] <crdlb> all you get is the open source 'nv' driver
[00:51] <Randall> crdlb: how would u use something like compiz-fusion without priorietary drivers
[00:52] <frogscott> Little help getting videos to play in mozilla...plays a blank video on you tube
[00:52] <sleven> nt launch with fullscreen, i am using vmware. it used to work perfectly earlier
[00:52] <dr_willis> !flash | frogscott
[00:52] <dug_> frogscott: i assume you have flash installed
[00:52] <sleven> for some reason Ubuntu wont launch with fullscreen, i am using vmware. it used to work perfectly earlier
[00:52] <LF|Irssi> what's the command to like export a log file that's on like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/#mychan.log  and make it go to /opt/lampp/htdocs?
[00:52] <Randall> dug_: also when updating how do u automatically update GRUB because the last time i updated to 8.04 my GRUB menu didn't update even though i am using hardy
[00:52] <crdlb> Randall: you wouldn't :/
[00:53] <dug_> Randall: it updated grub for me when i updated to intrepid this morning
[00:53] <crdlb> Randall: until the nouveau driver is ready, but that could be a very long time
[00:53] <frogscott> yes flash is installed let me try that ubottu link
[00:53] <Randall> crdlb: so on intrepid I won't be able to use compiz for a while
[00:53] <dArK_fUsSi0n> how is Intrepid?
[00:54] <LF|Irssi> dArK_fUsSi0n: good so far
[00:54] <esac> great
[00:54] <esac> running it now, loving it
[00:54] <rww> yup, it's nice and stable :)
[00:54] <dArK_fUsSi0n> sweet, ill prolly wait for it to come out of beta first.
[00:54] <alesan> I hope they deliver a new kernel, the one I have takes so long to resume from suspend my thinkpad
[00:54] <esac> alesan, which thinkpad do you have ?
[00:54] <crdlb> Randall: that's right
[00:54] <InfiniteBlue> It was looking good, and then I ran into a wall.  Literally.  I can't move applications onto my second monitor.  Anyone else run into this problem?
[00:55] <alesan> esac: T61
[00:55] <LF|Irssi> what's the command to like export a log file that's on like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/#mychan.log  and make it go to /opt/lampp/htdocs?
[00:55] <crdlb> Randall: until nvidia releases an updated nvidia-glx-96
[00:55] <Randall> crdlb: ah thanks
[00:55] <chad> MolePrince: any other possible ideas ?  this is just weird
[00:56] <sleven> for some reason Ubuntu wont launch with fullscreen, i am using vmware. it used to work perfectly earlier
[00:56] <etrask> Can anyone help me boot from the Ubuntu live CD? It keeps freezing for me for some reason
[00:56] <esac> alesan, t61p here, in hardy i was having the same issue. i got a new hal pushed down, and at the same time i used envy-ng to switch to the 177 driver and it fixed the issue for me
[00:56] <MolePrince> chad: I'm a bit stumped as well I must say.  Sorry.
[00:56] <chad> MolePrince: np thanks for trying
[00:56] <esac> 177 nvidia driver that is
[00:56] <alesan> esac: uh? can you explain? what is a new hal "pushed down"??
[00:57] <esac> alesan, software update
[00:57] <chad> MolePrince: no other files are involved in the lookup of addresses or dns other than resolv.conf .. right ?
[00:57] <alesan> what is envy-ng? 177 driver of what?
[00:57] <esac> alesan, nvidia
[00:57] <InfiniteBlue> Does anyone use a dual monitor configuration on Intrepid? (ATI dual-head)
[00:57] <alesan> esac: I do not have nvidia graphics brrr...
[00:57] <alesan> I have intel
[00:57] <esac> alesan, hmm, maybe it was the hal that did it then
[00:57] <MolePrince> chad: Shouldn't be.  Might check your router settings and see if it's got something different too.
[00:58] <chad> MolePrince: kk
[00:58] <LF|Irssi> Hello?! please,,what's the command to like export a log file that's on like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/#mychan.log  and make it go to /opt/lampp/htdocs?
[00:58] <frogscott> dug Little help getting videos to play in mozilla...videos crash
[00:58] <dr_willis> LF|Irssi,  the logs are just text files i think.. just copy them over.
[00:58] <jkoce> frogscott what type of videos are you playing
[00:58] <frogscott> jkoce you tube
[00:59] <|thunder> whats the deal with all the kernel updates lately ? why to in a week ?
[00:59] <|thunder> *two
[00:59] <alesan> esac: how did you install that new HAL?
[00:59] <InfiniteBlue> back in a bit.
[00:59] <jkoce> frogscott rgr that, i couldn't play them either without installing java (the full version from sun, not the open source plugin)
[01:00] <LF|Irssi> is there a way by command line to make a .log file a .html?
[01:00] <markbto> anyone got a easy way too compile linux kernel with p4 code
[01:00] <markbto> ?
[01:00] <dug_> LF|Irssi: mv
[01:00] <frogscott> jkoce the full tar?
[01:00] <sleven> for some reason Ubuntu wont launch with fullscreen, i am using vmware. it used to work perfectly earlier
[01:00] <LF|Irssi> lol that easy hah? Figures thanks :)
[01:00] <dr_willis> LF|Irssi,  a web browser can display normal text files.. or you just tack on the proper head/tail  i guess..
[01:00] <sleven> for some reason Ubuntu wont launch with fullscreen, i am using vmware. it used to work perfectly earlier, how do i make the vmware display ubuntu in fullscreen?
[01:00] <esac> alesan, although maybe hope for you. intrepid just suspended in about 5-10 seconds and resumed in 2-3 on my t61p with no issues
[01:00] <markbto> sleven,  I had same problem,  try re-installing vmware tools
[01:00] <LF|Irssi> ok
[01:01] <LF|Irssi> ty
[01:01] <dug_> LF|Irssi: or to convert plain text to html, there is a package called txt2html
[01:01] <jkoce> frogscott i used the addons manager in firefox to do it.  if you go to firefox what addons are listed?
[01:01] <alesan> esac: I'm still on the previous one
[01:01] <jkoce> tools > addons
[01:01] <alesan> esac: that is the name, the 'h' one
[01:01] <dr_willis> LF|Irssi,  you could just link some directory from the web server to point to your log files dir... no need to copy stuff around then
[01:01] <esac> alesan, yes, hardy
[01:01] <alesan> esac: that is why I hope they will upgrade the kernel in intrepid
[01:01] <esac> alesan, im saying when it is released at the end of this month you might want to try it
[01:01] <sleven> markbto: ok i m not wiping out my installs from ubuntu then? id hate to redo everything
[01:01] <geremy> hey all, having a terrible time trying to get my tv out working, I'd really appreciate some pointers
[01:01] <LF|Irssi> dr_willis: how?
[01:01] <jkoce> click on plugins
[01:01] <alesan> esac: of course I will upgrade
[01:01] <esac> alesan, they did upgrade the kernel. it is 2.6.27-7 at this point, versus 2.6.24-21 in hardy
[01:02] <Syco54645_AAO> hello, where is ume-launcher in the repos?  i cannot find t
[01:02] <Syco54645_AAO> it
[01:02] <Formode> alesan, I beleive every Ubuntu release entails a kernal update.
[01:02] <jkoce> frogscott click on plugins, and see which java is listed
[01:02] <crdlb> LF|Irssi: you could convert them to html for prettiness, google for "irc2html", there are several available
[01:02] <markbto> selven:  when it happened too me,  I think there was a kernel update,  and that is what took out my vmware tools
[01:02] <jkoce> frogscott mine says java plugin 1.6.0_07
[01:02] <dr_willis> LF|Irssi,  with the 'ln -s' command   to make links.. check bash howto/command line basics guides for details.
[01:02] <frogscott> jkoce installing
[01:02] <LF|Irssi> ok thanks guys
[01:03] <jkoce> ok...good luck!  i hope it helps, cuz i've only used linux for about 5 days now
[01:04] <jkoce> can anyone tell me why my disk usage analyzer says i have a 36 gig hard drive when it's only 20?
[01:04] <frogscott> jkoce yes because uve only used linux 5 days
[01:04] <jkoce> LOL
[01:04] <jkoce> thanks
[01:05] <jkoce> you're right.  it has two things checked under preferences...not sure why.
[01:05] <jkoce> and they add up to 36 gig.  it's basicallly seing my hd twice
[01:06] <NET||abuse> i tell you it is most frustrating not being able to manage my iphone under linux.
[01:06] <jkoce> ok another question....can anyone tell me how to upgrade my video card?  i have an integrated card.  today i tried to install a pci gfx card and it crashed my system
[01:06] <InfiniteBlue> ... Aw man, I hate it when the microsoft solution fixes problems on Ubuntu :P
[01:06] <NET||abuse> damn apple and it's freedom hating.
[01:07] <frogscott> jkoce install envyng
[01:08] <jkoce> frogscott i did that...what do i do next?  if i reboot with the nvidia card it just shows a cursor - no desktop
[01:08] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[01:08] <jkoce> frogscott i think if i could get into the command line or desktop then i could use envy, but i can't get that far
[01:08] <geremy> having a lot of trouble with an integrated intel 945 graphics card and video out
[01:09] <frogscott> jkoce sweet.....you cant use envy from menu/system tools in icon menu on desktop?
[01:09] <dorobo18jp> hello all im very very new at linux just wanted to say hello
[01:09] <NET||abuse> geremy: i'm on the 945 with my eeepc.. worked absolutely perfect on interpid, didn't try hardy
[01:09] <jkoce> frogscott only if i boot with the integrated gfx card
[01:10] <geremy> NET||abuse: with s video?
[01:10] <frogscott> jkoce boot with the integrated card then and let envy find your drivers
[01:10] <NET||abuse> geremy: no, eeepc has no s-video
[01:10] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[01:10] <geremy> NET||abuse: thats the part I'm having trouble with
[01:11] <dorobo18jp> anyone out there that can help me get murrine engine installed ?
[01:11] <frogscott> little help my videos in mozilla are closing browser
[01:11] <jkoce> frogscott it says nvidia card not detected - cuz it's not installed at the moment.  should i install it and boot with the igp card, and then try to detect?
[01:12] <NET||abuse> right, home.. tired
[01:12] <frogscott> jkoce yes install it then boot in whatever mode u can to get desktop then go to envy console and set it up
[01:13] <jkoce> frogscott ok i'll give it a try.  back in a few.  did the java plug in work?
[01:13] <frogscott> no now it works but it is back to popping shut
[01:13] <jkoce> popping shut?
[01:13] <frogscott> starts vid and BAM closes mozilla
[01:14] <geremy> having a lot of trouble with an integrated intel 945 graphics card and s video, if anybody knows how to fix this issue in either Hardy or Intrpeid I'd very much appreciate it
[01:14] <InfiniteBlue> Is there a good application for music that syncs with an iPod? (5G)
[01:14] <jkoce> if you have a different java plugin, uninstall the non sun plugin
[01:14] <jkoce> geremy sorry i cant help
[01:14] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[01:14] <dorobo18jp> anyone that can help me install murrine engine please private me
[01:14]  * jkoce is a noob
[01:14] <frogscott> jkoce hmm in the synaptic manger or in firefox?
[01:14] <jkoce> in the firefox
[01:14] <frogscott> surep
[01:15] <frogscott> go do ur thing
[01:15] <jrib> !info gtk2-engines-murrine | dorobo18jp
[01:15] <jrib> dorobo18jp: install that package
[01:15]  * jkoce is restarting
[01:15] <geremy> jkoce: np, I just hope someone can
[01:15] <dorobo18jp> im a total noob i have know idea how to
[01:16] <jrib> dorobo18jp: same way you install any other software on ubuntu.  Use one of the frontends to APT like Add/Remove or Synaptic
[01:16] <dr_willis> dorobo18jp,  fire up the package manager tool - look for that file.. click and install it.
[01:16] <dorobo18jp> ok
[01:17] <shekhar> hi can someone help me
[01:17] <shekhar> i am unable to startup ubuntu and need some help... startup is hanging on "Recovering schroot sessions..." and i cannot get to a login
[01:17] <Randall> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'. I am trying to print to a printer on my network?
[01:18] <savage> I am trying to make a data call over w/ my v3 over USB. if I dial the number followed by a ";" it will work, but I am not able to switch into data mode. however, without the ";" it will begin to dial but shortly thereafter says "NO CARRIER"
[01:18] <extor> Is it possible to use tar to backup a remote web server and recreate it on a vmware image on my desktop?
[01:19] <geremy> extor: yes
[01:19] <frogscott> little help my videos in mozilla are closing browser
[01:19] <dorobo18jp> ﻿!synaptic
[01:20] <extor> geremy, do I leave out /dev and /proc and /opt?
[01:20] <dr_willis> is the bot dead today? :( or just lagged?
[01:20] <Randall>  There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'. I am trying to print to a printer on my network?
[01:20] <seij0> Hello. I just installed a Dynex Wireless G card using ndiswrapper. I can not get the wireless to work though. When I go to the configuration all I see is Dial-Up. lspci recognises the card also. I'm not sure what's wrong
[01:20] <geremy> extor: give me a second, I've got a howto around here somewhere
[01:21] <dublpaws> shekhar: was this a new install?
[01:21] <shekhar> dublpaws: no
[01:21] <dr_willis> dorobo18jp, ' sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine '  will also install that package
[01:21] <shekhar> dublpaws: the machine was booting fine yesterday
[01:22] <frogscott> shekhar how are u in irc if u cant start ubuntu?
[01:22] <dublpaws> shekhar: can you see the filesystem from a liveCD?
[01:22] <shekhar> frogscott: i have more than one computer
[01:22] <frogscott> lol
[01:22] <shekhar> dublpaws: yes
[01:22] <shekhar> dublpaws: fsck is clean
[01:23] <shekhar> dublpaws: i also booted in recovery mode, same problem
[01:23] <jkoce> /roll
[01:23] <geremy> extor: hmm can't seem to find it, I recall using vmware converter though, can you make an iso?
[01:23] <Yuretsz> join symfony
[01:24] <Yuretsz> ops
[01:24] <extor> an iso?
[01:24] <frogscott> jkoce whats up?
[01:24] <extor> geremy, I did make an old old dd image of /dev/hda...I guess that will work to recreate the base
[01:24] <extor> and then a tar of some of the changed files perhaps
[01:25] <frogscott> little help my videos in mozilla are closing browser Please
[01:25] <dexter> plzz help me to solve this error..i have put it up in http://paste.ubuntu.com/63243/          it is a disk error
[01:25] <geremy> extor: you could just mount the image and extract the tar into it
[01:25] <extor> frogscott, helpful little videos, aren't they? Mine just sit there and play for the most part.
[01:26] <extor> geremy, yeah...I already got a vmware machine made up of the old old dd image..I can just untar the new stuff and have it overwrite
[01:26] <themiddleman> hey guys
[01:26] <geremy> extor: yeah
[01:26] <frogscott> extor say what?
[01:26] <shekhar> dublpaws: any idea what i can do to fix this? can schroot be disabled?
[01:26] <dexter> plzz help me to solve this error..i have put it up in http://paste.ubuntu.com/63243/          it is a disk error
[01:26] <dublpaws> I'd backup your filesystem before trying anything else shekhar
[01:26] <geremy> extor: you'll still have to go through the iso convert rigamarole though
[01:27] <Randall> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'. I am trying to print to a printer on my network?
[01:27] <extor> geremy, you mean mounting the dd image? Already been done and a new vm created
[01:27] <shekhar> dublpaws: i've done that :)
[01:27] <extor> tar: Removing leading `/' from hard link targets <--- What exactly is tar saying here?
[01:27] <dublpaws> shekhar: this person was having a similar problem http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-printview-t-3466-start-0.html
[01:27] <frogscott> wow no one on here can fix a mozilla playing flv problem?
[01:28] <dexter> hey i have got an error duing one of the routine disk tests.....i have pasted the error in http://paste.ubuntu.com/63243/          it is a disk error
[01:28] <shekhar> dublpaws: yep that
[01:28] <shekhar> 's the only related page i could find
[01:28] <geremy> having a lot of trouble with an integrated intel 945 graphics card and s video, if anybody knows how to fix this issue in either Hardy or Intrpeid I'd very much appreciate it
[01:28] <dublpaws> shekhar: here's another one: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg116255.html
[01:28] <extor> does /sys need to be backed up too? Its acting funny
[01:28] <dr_willis> extor,  i dont think so.. its a special directory
[01:29] <frogscott> geremy you are talking about using svideo out from computer?
[01:29] <geremy> frogscott: yep
[01:29] <frogscott> geremy help me with mine ill help you
[01:30] <geremy> frogscott: what do you need help with
[01:30] <reagleBRKLN> help! my SO's printer, on a Kubuntu machine, stopped working. It connects via IPP to a USB printer on my Kubuntu machine. The only thing I can think is the kernel and cupssys updates that just ran...?
[01:30] <vitamin-carrot> omg
[01:30] <themiddleman> heres the situation: i have an old tosheba laptop with a pentium and 16 mega of ram, it has no usb, networking, (floppy only), so i am taking the hard drive out, putting it into my laptop and booting from a cd and using a flash drive / cd for transfering stuff.   so ive copied the ubuntu alternate cd (plan to run fluxbox) onto the hard drive and grub also, its booting to the kernel but it hangs on "early unpacking initramfs..." and there is no workaroun
[01:30] <themiddleman> d to be found, so should i use an older kernel or what?
[01:30] <frogscott> wow no one on here can fix a mozilla playing flv problem?
[01:30] <vitamin-carrot> windows xp is kickingmy butt
[01:31] <vitamin-carrot> isnt flv is flash
[01:31] <dexter> frogscott; wats exactly ur problem?? can u tell me
[01:31] <musikgoat> yes, flash video
[01:31] <shekhar> dublpaws: thanks for the second link, does it propose a fix? why is schroot starting at boot anyway?
[01:31] <vitamin-carrot> have ya got flash installed?
[01:31] <dexter> is ther no one who can reslove my disk error problem
[01:32] <shekhar> dublpaws: i edited the schroot.conf to turn off those scripts as in the first link but that didn't do it
[01:32] <Randall> ﻿ Randall: There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'. I am trying to print to a printer on my network?
[01:32]  * vitamin-carrot Eats windows Xp Install Disk
[01:32] <geremy> dexter: did you manually fdisk?
[01:32] <dublpaws> shekhar: /etc/init.d/ ... it's in there somewhere probably
[01:32] <vitamin-carrot> *nom nom nom*
[01:32] <geremy> frogscott: what do you need help with
[01:32] <musikgoat> dexter: what was the link to your paste?
[01:32] <frogscott> geremy my mozilla is closing when I play flv or videos
[01:32] <dexter> musikgoat; http://paste.ubuntu.com/63243/
[01:32] <danbh_intrepid> themiddleman: wow, 16mb of ram?  thats crrrrazy.    Maybe try damn small linux.  I think there sole goal is to run on as little resource as possible
[01:32] <dublpaws> haven't had to muck about with init scripts for awhile thankfully, so I'm rusty
[01:32] <vitamin-carrot> finding drivers for winXP is so hard
[01:32] <frogscott> geremy I found an answer for you
[01:33] <themiddleman> danbh_intrepid, yeah, that just has crap for a package manager
[01:33] <geremy> frogscott: thanks, can you post the link?
[01:33] <dexter> frogscott;....u r using flash 9.....uninstall it and use flash 10 instead
[01:33] <vitamin-carrot> frog did ya remove and rinstall flash?
[01:33] <vitamin-carrot> yeah
[01:33] <vitamin-carrot> woot
[01:33] <vitamin-carrot> awwww
[01:33] <geremy> frogscott: what flash player are you using?
[01:33] <FloodBot1> vitamin-carrot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <frogscott> how to see flash version?
[01:33] <vitamin-carrot> ive been told :(
[01:34] <frogscott> geremy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=904591
[01:34] <mudkip> geremy: you spelled jeremy wrong
[01:34] <clogged> I installed Ubuntu on VMware and it worked fine for a couple of times. Whn I started Ubuntu today it wasn't in fullscreen mode, but it used to be. How do I change this?
[01:34] <Slack> what do you call a small distro that fits on one floppy disk, whats the term for that
[01:35] <dublpaws> shekhar: it might be trying to boot into your alternate root?
[01:35] <dexter> frogscott; go 2 ur synaptic...u must have installed flashplugin-nonfree
[01:35] <musikgoat> dexter: can you run fsck from livecd?
[01:35] <frogscott> dexter yes I did
[01:35] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to get my wireless to work.  i have installed wicd, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  I am using ndiswrapper and madwifi to get it to work, any help would be appreciated in getting it to work properly!!!
[01:35] <dexter> musikgoat;;; so no i have 2 restart the system nd put in the live cd....then opn the terminal and then do fsck??
[01:35] <geremy> mudkip: so you told me yesterday
[01:36] <dexter> frogscott;; uninstall it.....
[01:36] <frogscott> dexter then what ... install flash 10 from flash site?
[01:36] <musikgoat> dexter: yes, but be careful as sdb may not be sdb on the live cd
[01:36] <geremy> frogscott: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree, then go to a site that has flash
[01:36] <geremy> frogscott: should prompt
[01:37] <dexter> ya.....just go to adobe....or u can also google it out and dowload the flash that suits ur architecture
[01:37] <dexter> musikgoat; is ther no other solution than to restart the system and use live cd
[01:38] <dexter> frogscott ya.....just go to adobe....or u can also google it out and dowload the flash that suits ur architecture
[01:38] <frogscott> geremy how is that post
[01:38] <frogscott> dexter thanks let me try
[01:38] <musikgoat> dexter: thats the only that i can think of, maybe others have suggestions
[01:38] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to get my wireless to work.  i have installed wicd, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  I am using ndiswrapper and madwifi to get it to work, any help would be appreciated in getting it to work properly!!!
[01:38] <zibba> musikgoat, what's the problem?
[01:38] <dexter> musikgoat; fine thanq...i'll try t out
[01:38] <Blowfeld> hi all... is there a tool which graphs the wlan signal-strength ?!?
[01:39] <vitamin-carrot> OMG I HATE DRIVERGUIDE SO MUCH!
[01:39] <geremy> frogscott: doesn't appear to pertain to my problem, but thank you anyway
[01:39] <dwh6> I know this isn't exactly the right place, but anyone have any tips on hamachi?
[01:39] <musikgoat> zibba: dexter is having disk errors see http://paste.ubuntu.com/63243/
[01:39] <zibba> FAJALOU, everyone has mixed results with ndiswrapper, it's just not perfect
[01:39] <dwh6> got 2 ubuntu boxes next to each other, all logged in to the same hamachi network -- but can't get from one to the other
[01:39] <dwh6> alway get 'no route'
[01:39] <dwh6> baffled
[01:39] <themiddleman> heres the situation: i have an old tosheba laptop with a pentium and 16 mega of ram, it has no usb, networking, (floppy only), so i am taking the hard drive out, putting it into my laptop and booting from a cd and using a flash drive / cd for transfering stuff.   so ive copied the ubuntu alternate cd (plan to run fluxbox) onto the hard drive and grub also, its booting to the kernel but it hangs on "early unpacking initramfs..." and there is no workaroun
[01:39] <themiddleman> d to be found, so should i use an older kernel or what?
[01:40] <FAJALOU> zibba:  but sometimes it will work; other time it will not...
[01:40] <zibba> dexter, i agree, you need a liveCD and a fsck from there
[01:40] <zibba> FAJALOU, i had the same thing happen with my linksys card
[01:40] <zibba> FAJALOU, seems like it would work every other boot
[01:40] <dexter> zibba...i m going 2 try it......thanx 2 u both zibba and musikgoat..will be back after the fsck and i'll talk 2 u both.........
[01:40] <FAJALOU> zibba:  ya and sometimes not even at that:  sometimes it will cut out half way through.
[01:41] <riz0n> hello i have a gdm problem.. when gdm starts my text is soo small that it cant be read and when you log into a session via username and password all is well.. how can i adjust the screen resolution for gdm?
[01:41] <curz0r> is anyone using the new DUST theme?
[01:41] <zibba> FAJALOU: yeah, i never had good luck with it, i recommend getting another wireless card if possible from the list of ones that ubuntu supports
[01:41] <SeaPhor> dexter, what pc are you using? is it a name brand like HP or Gateway?
[01:41] <FAJALOU> ... -.-
[01:41] <zibba> FAJALOU: it will just avoid so much aggravation
[01:41] <FAJALOU> zibba this is a really good card though :(
[01:41] <zibba> FAJALOU: it's only as good as the drivers :(
[01:42] <dexter> SeaPhor....nope...not branded......i got the individual components
[01:42] <zibba> FAJALOU: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:42] <FAJALOU> zibba:  true. i think that it is supposed to be supported in .10
[01:42] <zibba> FAJALOU: i believe the cheap linksys USB ones are supported, they are only $30 or so
[01:42] <JulioNeto> is possible make a radio (FM) with Ubuntu? I'm working on a project and would like to adopt Ubuntu as the radio's SO.
[01:43] <SeaPhor> dexter, try checking mfg bios update, if not that issue i would suggest that your HDD is dying
[01:43] <vitamin-carrot> seriously ... windows is pwning me
[01:43] <FAJALOU> zibba:  i was really looking for a pci one...
[01:43] <zibba> FAJALOU: full size PCI? Desktop?
[01:43] <FAJALOU> no pci laptop
[01:43] <zibba> dexter: anything in dmesg? IDE errors and so forth?
[01:43] <zibba> FAJALOU: yeah, work from the list of supported cards or wait until .10
[01:44] <frogscott> dexter I have flash 10 for Ubuntu now but on watching videos my mozilla still closes
[01:44] <zibba> FAJALOU: try a pre-release maybe if you can't wait?
[01:44] <FAJALOU> zibba:  no it's too risky now...
[01:44] <zibba> FAJALOU: then patience it is
[01:44] <clogged> I installed Ubuntu on VMware and it worked fine for a couple of times. Whn I started Ubuntu today it wasn't in fullscreen mode, but it used to be. How do I change this?
[01:45] <zibba> clogged: VMWare server, player? what version?
[01:45] <frogscott> dexter could it possibly be some other synaptic plugin for flash I need to uninstall?
[01:45] <SeaPhor> dexter, yes, also check zibba  result, may be a IDE controller issue
[01:45] <zibba> dexter: any SMART errors in BIOS?
[01:45] <flemota> E: flashplugin-nonfree: el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 1
[01:45] <flemota> help
[01:45] <flemota> #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-ar
[01:46] <FAJALOU> zibba: using wicd; the first ten seconds it says it's connected, then nothing
[01:46] <SeaPhor> dexter, what MB do you have , possibly a ASUS MB?
[01:46] <zibba> FAJALOU: yeah, maybe try earlier/later NDIS drivers? update firmware version? ndiswrapper is kind of shady....
[01:46] <lufthanza> hey
[01:46] <lufthanza> i need some help
[01:46] <Starnestommy> lastlog -win 28 xylia
[01:46] <FAJALOU> zibba:  why would it work though, i dunno why it just stopped :(
[01:46] <lufthanza> nvm
[01:47] <zibba> FAJALOU: ndiswrapper is kind of a hack
[01:47] <FAJALOU> ya...
[01:47] <GundamDudeX> Hi, can anyone help me? My Desktop Effects won't show up on my Preferences list after I've added it using Add/Remove
[01:47] <GundamDudeX> and I have no idea how to start it
[01:48] <musikgoat> GundamDudeX: do you see it in appearances -> effects?
[01:48] <GundamDudeX> all I see are visual effects ?
[01:48] <GundamDudeX> I was trying to get the desktop cube efect.
[01:48] <dr_willis> !cube
[01:48] <vitamin-carrot> finally i got the drivers
[01:48] <vitamin-carrot> :(
[01:48] <zibba> everyone wants the cube!
[01:49] <csilk> how long did it take OOo to hack together docx support? as it only been since V3?
[01:49] <GundamDudeX> lol..
[01:49] <csilk> *v3?
[01:49] <dekkong> GundamDudeX: you got advanced desktop settings?
[01:49] <vitamin-carrot> i got the sphere
[01:49] <zibba> dodecahedron here
[01:49] <GundamDudeX> dekkong:No I do not.
[01:49] <theJKH> Hi guys i got a question i got WINE to work with Counter Strike Source but everytime i make a game r join one i always get Server is nfourceing consistency for this file models\player\t_arctic.mdl
[01:49] <dr_willis> I disable compiz. :)
[01:49] <theJKH> How do i fix that
[01:49] <theJKH> Im sure its something small
[01:49] <dekkong> GundamDudeX: you will need that to get the cube
[01:49] <Flannel> theJKH: Try asking in #winehq
[01:49] <zibba> theJKH: have you asked in #winehq?
[01:49] <GundamDudeX> okay thanks
[01:50] <frogscott> dexter you there?
[01:50] <Randall> I have a messed up video card and was wondering how to check if it is properly installed as well as if I need nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx? It is a Geforce4: MX 420
[01:50] <vitamin-carrot> has anyone seen the cube on vista?
[01:50] <zibba> Randall: messed up in what way?
[01:50] <vitamin-carrot> its looks yucky
[01:50] <zibba> vitamin-carrot: is it built in?
[01:51] <vitamin-carrot> no
[01:51] <zibba> vitamin-carrot: i like the default ALT-TAB in vista, it's nice
[01:51] <theJKH> I asked but no one has answerd
[01:51] <zibba> theJKH: I am not sure if anyone in here will know. anything on google?
[01:51] <dr_willis> theJKH,  i would check the wine forums/app database  also.
[01:51] <kansan__> if a file is -rwxrwx---- root ubuntu-shared text.txt ... and i'm part of the ubuntu-shared group, and i can read but not write the to the file.  i did however change the groups setting without logging out and logging back in (don't know if that matters).  what do i need to do?
[01:52] <SeaPhor> Randall, if you need to reset xorg.conf to original, i can help,,,, other than that, GL
[01:52] <vitamin-carrot> brb working on gf's machine
[01:52] <zibba> kansan__: do you have permissions for the parent directory?
[01:52] <Randall> zibba: When i enable it in Hardware drivers it always tells me it can't detect it and needs to load to low graphics mod
[01:52] <Randall> mode*
[01:53] <clogged> zibba: vmware player installed in september, cant find versio nr, ubuntu 8041 desktop
[01:53] <kansan__> zibba, its 770; and david:ubuntu-shared
[01:53] <zibba> Randall: that may be because you need the legacy version
[01:53] <clogged> what is compiz?
[01:53] <dr_willis> !compiz | clogged
[01:53] <mneptok> FAJALOU: you need a wireless card?
[01:53] <dr_willis> clogged,  its what gives ya those annoying special effects.
[01:53] <roxan> ?
[01:54] <Blowfeld> hi all... is there a tool which graphs the wlan signal-strength ?!?
[01:54] <FAJALOU> mneptok: one that's supported ?  sure lol
[01:54] <mneptok> FAJALOU: you in the US?
[01:54] <FAJALOU> zibba:  of course:  rebooted, and now it's working perfectly
[01:54] <zibba> Blowfeld: if you just need to check it real quick you can use iwconfig
[01:54] <FAJALOU> mneptok: yes?
[01:54] <Randall> zibba: how do i get the legacy version instead of just nvidia-glx
[01:54] <mneptok> FAJALOU: PCI or Cardbus?
[01:54] <zibba> FAJALOU: yeah, it's very inconsistent
[01:54] <FAJALOU> zibba:  i just don't get it :|
[01:54] <usser> Blowfeld, kismet should be able to do that
[01:54] <zibba> FAJALOU: send donation to ndiswrapper project?
[01:55] <FAJALOU> zibba:  would wicd's debug and log's be of any help?
[01:55] <clogged> what cool effects? ive seen one where windows kind of shrinks like a bubble
[01:55] <Blowfeld> usser thx ill give it a try
[01:56] <zibba> FAJALOU: wouldn't hurt
[01:56] <FAJALOU> zibba; ok i have it; it's very _very_ discreet however
[01:56] <Randall> ﻿zibba: how do i get the legacy version instead of just nvidia-glx
[01:56] <zibba> Randall: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:56] <dale> anybody skilled in setting up 4 monitors, using two ATI cards
[01:57] <dexter> zibba...wats the exact command that i have to type....i never woked with this fsck before....so how do i go about with the command
[01:57] <SeaPhor> ATI-- ewww
[01:57] <dale> yah
[01:57] <zibba> dexter: what is name of root partition? /dev/hdaX /dev/sdaX ??
[01:57] <dale> ill be getting nvidia cards soon if i cant this to work
[01:57] <musikgoat> dexter: what disks are mounted?
[01:57] <zibba> dale: I'm on dual head nvidia right now
[01:58] <dale> well dual head ATI was easy to setup
[01:58] <zibba> dale: never had much luck with dual head ATI
[01:58] <dale> but i cant get my second card to work for quad head
[01:58] <dexter> zibba; dev/sdb3
[01:58] <zibba> dexter: fsck /dev/sdb3
[01:58] <FAJALOU> zibba:  could it possibly be because i had a port forwarding and loggin enabled (the card cut out) so i disabled those, and it worked?
[01:59] <zibba> FAJALOU: try rebooting 3 or 4 times. if your card is anything like mine, sometimes it will work on boot, sometimes not
[01:59] <FAJALOU> zibba:  well ya most of the time it works, but i think that the logging and portforwarding threw it off?
[01:59] <zibba> FAJALOU: unknown, try some reboots
[01:59] <FAJALOU> it's working now :P
[01:59] <clogged> what cool effects? ive seen one where windows kind of shrinks like a bubble
[01:59] <Serway> does anyone know the defualt fonts directory?
[01:59] <FAJALOU> im good
[02:00] <clogged> zibba: vmware player installed in september, cant find versio nr, ubuntu 8041 desktop
[02:00] <FAJALOU> Serway:  /home/[user]/.fonts?
[02:00] <Guest61077> does anyone know how to get yahoo streaming music to work on ubuntu?
[02:00] <FAJALOU> !fonts
[02:00] <zibba> clogged: ubuntu starts in fullscreen or vmware does? i'm not sure of the problem
[02:00] <dexter> musikgoat; dev/sdb1  /boot              dev/sdb1  extended                 dev/sdb5 linux-swap        dev/sdb3   ext3   /
[02:01] <dexter> zibba thanxx
[02:01] <musikgoat> thats from mount?
[02:01] <dexter> musikgoat; no..just checked the gparted
[02:01] <dexter> musikgoat; how will i know which drives are mounted
[02:02] <musikgoat> dexter: the command mount
[02:02] <yuqu> hello
[02:02] <yuqu> quit
[02:02] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys. I'm having issues with firefox 3.0.3. It's constantly crashing while doing certain tasks such as clicking certain links or trying to play certain videos. This leads me to believe it is a flash problem but it isn't a global issue, it's just certain sites. Anyone know how to solve this?
[02:02] <zibba> WhoNeedszzz: what version of flash? have you tried v10 yet?
[02:03] <yuqu> exit
[02:03] <clogged> zibba: before ubuntu would go to fullscreen now it just stays in some minimode
[02:03] <WhoNeedszzz> zibba: yeah. 10.0.0 d569
[02:03] <dexter> i havechecked it out..i couldn't make out wat it was....i pasted it at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/63491/
[02:03] <zibba> clogged: can we get a screen shot?
[02:03] <tictacaddict> I'm running intrepid right now. dd, klogd and syslogd are eating up my cpu and my root partition is full. I'm not sure if I should kill them or what I might want to delete
[02:04] <musikgoat> dexter: and your on the livecd?
[02:04] <zibba> tictacaddict: when my disk is full i boot off a liveCD if possible. do you have one?
[02:04] <clogged> zibba where do i post it?
[02:04] <dexter> no...just swirched back...i'll be back in the live cd
[02:05] <zibba> clogged: not sure
[02:05] <musikgoat> dexter: well if the issue is fixed, nvm
[02:05] <Guest61077> has anyone sucessfully connected to yahoo lauchcast ?
[02:05] <RetrogradeCultur> anyone know how to add files to the playlist ni mp3blaster? f1 will only open up Terminal Help :/
[02:06] <Fezzler1> trying to find gparted from LivCD menu.  Where is it?
[02:06] <tictacaddict> zibba: I do have some liveCD's. Any ideas that don't require rebooting?
[02:06] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: system -> admin?
[02:06] <tictacaddict> zibba: or what would you recommend using the LiveCD
[02:06] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: partition editor
[02:06] <maco> anyone know of a way to listen to Pandora through Rhythmbox?
[02:06] <zibba> tictacaddict: durep is a handy program, it will show where the space is being used
[02:07] <zibba> tictacaddict: if you use knoppix i believe there is a disk used utility built in
[02:07] <Fezzler1> musikgoat> I already have Hardy installed.  Trying to change partition.  SOmeone said use LiveCD
[02:07] <Guest61077> ok if noone knows anything about lauchcast does anyone know how to install IE with active x?
[02:07] <RetrogradeCultur> anyone know how to add files to the playlist ni mp3blaster? f1 will only open up Terminal Help when i hit f1
[02:07] <Fezzler1> musikgoat> just booted with LiveCD and now what?
[02:08] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: as i said, go to system -> Administration
[02:08] <maco> Guest61077: ies4linux
[02:08] <r0zn> arr
[02:08] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: should be in there
[02:08] <Fezzler1> musikgoat> I see INstall; CHeck CD; Rescue; Test; Boot from...
[02:08] <RetrogradeCultur> anyone?
[02:08] <WhoNeedszzz> So anyone know a solution?
[02:09] <spragie> are the things in disk & file system settings logged (in KDE obviously)
[02:09] <RetrogradeCultur> no one here uses mp3 blaster
[02:09] <zibba> RetrogradeCultur: what's the problem? your terminal emulator is capturing F1?
[02:09] <SeaPhor> RetrogradeCultur, try vlc
[02:09] <RetrogradeCultur> I meant to add a question mark to that.
[02:09] <SeaPhor> good playlist config..
[02:10] <RetrogradeCultur> Yeah f1 is supposed to let me add playlist files but opens help
[02:10] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: i'm sorry, i didn't understand your question previously, i haven't been in that menu
[02:10] <Fezzler1> musikgoat> How do I go into Administration from the main LiveCD screen?  WHat do I select or press?
[02:10] <zibba> RetrogradeCultur: are you using gnome terminal?
[02:10] <RetrogradeCultur> yeah
[02:10] <zibba> RetrogradeCultur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-terminal/+bug/31344
[02:10] <musikgoat> Fezzler1: sorry
[02:11] <RetrogradeCultur> ok i'll look at the link zibba
[02:11] <zibba> RetrogradeCultur: "the disabling of F1 in the terminal Edit->Keyboard Shortcuts... works just fine"
[02:12] <Fezzler1> Does anyone know how to reset my partitions from LiveCD?
[02:12] <zibba> RetrogradeCultur: it's a DUMB bug for a terminal emulator
[02:12] <Fezzler1> Something about Gparted?
[02:12] <zibba> Fezzler1: reset == delete ALL?
[02:12] <zibba> Fezzler1: what are you trying to do?
[02:13] <Fezzler1> zibba> I had trouble upgrading Gutsy to Hardy so I did a fresh install of Hardy
[02:13] <type_t> FIFO is to PIPE as Socket is to __BLANK__ ....
[02:13] <RetrogradeCultur> ty zibba
[02:14] <Fezzler1> zibba> I have an older 6gig HD that I put the OS on and a newer 200gig that I mapped to /home
[02:14] <zibba> Fezzler1: ok, so what's the goal here
[02:14] <zibba> Fezzler1: keep your /home and remove /?
[02:14] <Fezzler1> zibba> Someone here said my partitions were messed up and I needed to boot from LiveCD and use gparted to fix my partions
[02:15] <zibba> Fezzler1: what's your problem though? what are you trying to do?
[02:15] <Deeta> Hehe, the old 6GB HD should use more power while it is running than the 6GiB it holds is worth ;-) (while even ignoring the slower access speeds :)
[02:15] <Fezzler1> zibba> It wasn't so much about getting rid of either.  They said my sd1 partition was too small and my sd0 was split
[02:16] <zibba> Deeta: good for swap I guess
[02:16] <SyL> I've got the Atheroes madwifi driver install in 8.10, but this asprire 5315 laptop doesn't seem to be able to see the wifi. it appears as an unknown driver. ideas?
[02:16] <Fezzler1> zibba> IN plain language, my 200gig was two 96.6 gig drives instead of one big drive
[02:16] <SeaPhor> Fezzler1, "someone here" = who? cause they need to follow thru and help you sety up///
[02:16] <zibba> Fezzler1: gotcha, but you resized it now
[02:16] <Fezzler1> zibba> make sense?
[02:16] <spragie> Does anyone know what the fd0 mount is for in kubuntu ?
[02:16] <zibba> Fezzler1: i still have no clue what your problem is though
[02:16] <zibba> spragie: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt ?
[02:17] <spragie> zibba: yes it appears to be out of the first hd
[02:17] <Fezzler1> zibba> well, in was Flannel
[02:17] <Fezzler1> zibba> or Flanner
[02:17] <Fezzler1> zibba> of Flanner
[02:17] <Pici> spragie: fd0 is for the floppy drive.
[02:17] <zibba> Fezzler1: let me ask you this, is there any data on the drives you are trying to save or are you just looking to wipe everything?
[02:18] <spragie> Pici: yes but i dont have a floppy hooked up, and it appears as a partition out of my primary hd
[02:18] <clogged> zibba: http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntutt2.jpg
[02:18] <spragie> Pici: & zibba it appears to be 1kb
[02:18] <Fezzler1> zibba> Yes, the OS is on the first drive and the /home is on the 200gig.  No, not trying to wipe.  trying to resize
[02:18] <Pici> spragie: Thats weird.
[02:19] <dexter> musikgoat; i m on live cd...r u ther
[02:19] <dexter> zibba; i m on live cd
[02:19] <zibba> Fezzler1: you probably want gparted
[02:19] <zibba> dexter: ok, fsck your volume
[02:19] <kansan__> i'm trying to figure out why i can't ssh into my box.  i can ssh into 192.168.0.3 (my IP address)... but i cant ssh into 97.113.54.66.... a QWEST assigned IP address.  (i've even tryied telnet 97.113.54.66 22 and gotten =< Unable to connect; connection timed out).  i'm plugged directly from qwest modem into my computer.  questions: 1) isn't this qwest's fault?  2) how do i view the log of the sshd server?  thanks
[02:19] <vitamin-carrot> ugh
[02:19] <vitamin-carrot> has anyone actually gotten LanShark to work here?
[02:19] <dexter> zibba;; i did it this is wat i got........................................ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck dev/sdb3
[02:19] <dexter> fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[02:19] <Pie-rate> ﻿does anyone know how to fix the gspca (webcam driver) "no space left on device" bug? there's a fix (patch) for spca5xx, but it doesn't work for gspca
[02:19] <zibba> clogged: CTRL-ALT-ENTER?
[02:19] <Fezzler1> zibba> Flannel said "Boot from LiveCD, use gparted to make sd1 one big drive instead of two 96.6gig drives
[02:19] <spragie> kansan__: port forwading for your router, or set you 0.3 as DMZ
[02:20] <zibba> Fezzler1: i'm in agreement
[02:20] <kansan__> spragie, huh?  there is no router i'm plugged directly into their dsl modem
[02:20] <evan_> hey is it possible to dualscreen ati and nvidia?
[02:20] <Fezzler1> zibba> Yes, gparted.  How do I get to it via the LiveCD
[02:20] <kansan__> spragie, i didnt get to set the ip address
[02:20] <zibba> spragie: i would recommend NOT using DMZ but using just 22 port forward
[02:20] <zibba> Fezzler1: Gparted maintains their own liveCD, if you are using ubuntu liveCD i am not sure if it exists on there, try opening a terminal and doing gparted
[02:20] <dexter> zibba;; i did it this is wat i got........................................ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck dev/sdb3    fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[02:21] <zibba> dexter: you need a leading / on the device
[02:21] <dexter> zibbai just got the output as fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[02:21] <zibba> dexter: /dev/sdb3
[02:21] <mxweas> I'm in ubuntu live cd, when I run fdisk -l /dev/sda it says Cannot open /dev/sda
[02:21] <mxweas> any ideas?
[02:21] <evan_> !ubuntu8.04
[02:21] <Fezzler1> zibba> SO I need to create a gparted LiceCD
[02:21] <evan_> !8.04
[02:21] <mrlabor1> hello i'm a newbie here
[02:21] <Chris_Britton> Is there some way I can restart my wired interface without rebooting the computer /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't do what I need
[02:21] <evan_> !8.10
[02:21] <zibba> mxweas: try fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:21] <dexter> zibba  so watdo i do now
[02:21] <Fezzler1> zibba> LiveCD
[02:21] <zibba> Fezzler1: not necessarily, try that with the terminal, gparted
[02:22] <zibba> Fezzler1: i'm not sure which liveCD you are using
[02:22] <alesan> re
[02:22] <mxweas> zibba: just goes to the next line
[02:22] <mxweas> doesn't return anything
[02:22] <spragie> zibba: well here is my deal i am trying to mount a partition for a diff drive and accidentally set the mount pt and device different for this and when i used mount to try to find it it doesn't show up so i am kind of lost as to what to do
[02:22] <zibba> mxweas: maybe your storage system is not supported
[02:22] <infinite> hi folks i installed a driver(nvidia-glx) and something must've gone wrong.Every time i try to dnl n install new packages it gives me "Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glx. I tried to remove nvidia-glx but without any luck so far.can somebody help me?
[02:22] <clogged> zibba : that didnt work
[02:22] <alesan> hey what to do if any command out of apt-get result in a segmentation fault. Any know fix?
[02:22] <mrlabor1> I tried to load vlc media player over the built in LinDVD that came with my puter
[02:22] <mxweas> zibba: k
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[02:22] <alesan> even synaptic crashes immediately
[02:22] <mrlabor1> now they are not letting the audio work at all
[02:22] <dexter> zibba  so watdo i do now
[02:22] <geremy> really looking for some help in getting my tv out to work- intel 945 integrated controller, s video
[02:22] <zibba> clogged: anything in menu about fullscreen?
[02:22] <mxweas> basically I am installing ubuntu and it needs to put grub on the partition ubuntu is on. but I don't know if it's /dev/sda1-5...
[02:23] <zibba> dexter: what happen after fsck
[02:23] <dexter> i just got this output  fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[02:23] <mxweas> I think I am doing it wrong because it fuxx up my windows partition when I try /dev/sda2 which is what it should be going onto
[02:23] <zibba> dexter: that's kind of weird, what about fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:24] <mxweas> So can I skip the grub part and do it later why any chance?
[02:24] <Chris_Britton> dexter, thanks for the suggestion - not doing it for me :(
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[02:24] <infinite> hi folks i installed a driver(nvidia-glx) and something must've gone wrong.Every time i try to dnl n install new packages it gives me "Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glx. I tried to remove nvidia-glx but without any luck so far.can somebody help me?
[02:25] <zibba> infinite: apt-get remove nvidia-glx ; apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:25] <evan_> is it possible to dualscreen when having 1 ati and 1 nvidia card?
[02:25] <dexter> zibba.....how can i c my partitions in livecd
[02:25] <zibba> evan_: yes but you will have to manually configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:25] <zibba> dexter: fdisk -l /dev/hdXX or /dev/sdXX
[02:26] <memeemeee> anyone use rhythmbox?
[02:26] <zibba> memeemeee: me
[02:26] <SpinachHead> does ubuntu support any usb wifi cards without installing any drivers?
[02:26] <zibba> SpinachHead: some, there is a list on the wiki
[02:26] <memeemeee> specifically for podcast
[02:26] <evan_> zibba: the problem is more of getting both gflrx and nvidia driver at the same time
[02:26] <zibba> memeemeee: negative
[02:26] <infinite> zibba: already tried that, it gives me the same error
[02:26] <vexeu> im looking for something that will put to 2 avi files together
[02:26] <SeaPhor> zibba, Chris_Britton , there is something dexter is not telling...
[02:26] <zibba> evan_: i didn't say you would have GL
[02:26] <memeemeee> thanks zibba
[02:27] <zibba> evan_: probably 2D only
[02:27] <evan_> zibba: ?
[02:27] <Chris_Britton> SeaPhor, enlighten me
[02:27] <dexter> zibba; i tried /dev/sdb3 ..but i get permission denied
[02:27] <zibba> dexter: su -
[02:27] <SeaPhor> Chris_Britton, i'll let him,,,
[02:27] <dexter> SeaPhor; wat is it buddy...let me know
[02:28] <lontara> hehehe
[02:28] <clogged> zibba: i changed the resolution to 1280 800. funny i hadnt changed to 800 600 and it used to work
[02:29] <rano> fghfd
[02:29] <dexter> zibba kk
[02:29] <geremy> if there's anybody here who can help me get my svideo working, id really appreciate it, or a bit of help in even narrowing down the problem
[02:29] <Guest61077> does anyone know how to get lauchcast working in linux?
[02:29] <Fezzler1> can I run gparted from the HD that I booted from?
[02:29] <dexter> zibba...i entered the password..but authentication failed
[02:29] <SeaPhor> dexter, there is something you have left out of the question, support can only help if all is known
[02:29] <Guest61077> lauchcast=yahoo streaming music
[02:29] <zibba> Fezzler1: no one knows which liveCD you have
[02:29] <roxan> Fezzler1, yes. but you cant change the things you are on
[02:29] <zibba> dexter: sudo -s ?
[02:30] <Chris_Britton> network-admin just brings up the network window
[02:30] <infinite> hello , im having trouble with an installed package(nvidia-glx).i cant remove it and i cant install other packages.It gives me this error :Removing nvidia-glx ...
[02:30] <infinite> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[02:30] <infinite> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[02:30] <Chris_Britton> I want to restart the interface
[02:30] <infinite> Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glx
[02:30] <FloodBot1> infinite: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:30] <zibba> infinite: you can force remove of packages
[02:30] <Fezzler1> roxan> So I need to make a Gparted boot disk
[02:30] <Coded1> what file is it that holds the modules to load at startup?
[02:30] <roxan> Fezzler1, you can donload the iso from its website
[02:30] <zibba> Coded1: /etc/modules
[02:31] <zibba> infinite: sudo dpkg --force-all -r
[02:31] <Coded1> zibba:  ty
[02:31] <Fezzler1> roxan> Will changing my partitions impact the data on the harddrives I repartition
[02:31] <infinite> zibba:ty
[02:31] <zibba> Fezzler1: yes, it will be lost if you don't do it properly, i recommend backup
[02:31] <seronis> question:  does anyone know how to make Nautilus allow you to right click on a folder icon and choose to open a console window with the folder set as the current work directory ?
[02:31] <dexter> zibba...can u be more clear as wat i should do....
[02:32] <zibba> seronis: http://koolinus.wordpress.com/2006/06/09/nautilus-actions/
[02:32] <Fezzler1> roxan> ?
[02:32]  * seronis clicks
[02:32] <asplund> Quick question.  I am running Intrepid Ibex, and when things updated, my ethernet connection disappeared.  I am using the onboard ethernet on a biostar nvidia 8200 motherboard, and it has been working well for weeks, but with the last kernel upgrade, there is not ethernet available.  When I run the connection manager, there are no options for wired connections.  I can hand load the r8169 module (which I think is the right one), and hand edit the /etc/networ
[02:32] <dexter> SeaPhor; its that my filesystem is containing errors which i have pasted it before and given to zibba.....
[02:32] <vluser> anyone here been able to make a wacom tablet work? using hardy
[02:32] <zibba> vluser: yes
[02:33] <geremy> vluser: yes
[02:33] <zibba> vluser: worked out of box
[02:33] <vluser> mine doesn't
[02:33] <geremy> vluser: otb for me
[02:33] <vluser> wow
[02:33] <vluser> maybe because this is the 64bit version
[02:33] <shekhar> dublpaws: you still there?
[02:33] <u007> hi, i'm using a 19inch lcd plugged into my laptop, but the lcd seems to flicker. i plan to adjust the sync rate for it, but i'm not sure if it will effect my laptop lcd... what should i do?
[02:34] <roxan> Fezzler1, yes backup
[02:34] <roxan> Fezzler1, i have bad record of losing data while repartitioning
[02:34] <Fezzler1> roxan> Ugh
[02:34] <geremy> really looking for some help in getting my tv out to work- intel 945 integrated controller, s video
[02:35] <dexter> musikgoat...r u ther
[02:35] <dexter> SeaPhor..have u got it
[02:35] <seronis> zibba: EXACTLY what i've been needing,  thank you
[02:36] <musikgoat> dexter: sorry, back, where are you at with live cd, did you check mount yet, paste it for me
[02:37] <SeaPhor> dexter, yes, and i told you, your HDD is prolly dying, if not then your bios is reading it incorrectly, either way you need to update the bios, and the run a check on your HDD
[02:40] <AbstortedMinds> I have an intel imac, and everything works great, but i think i need to install a driver for the video card, does ubuntu do this automatically or do i have to install it
[02:40] <indra> i can't unmount root particion
[02:41] <indra> partition
[02:41] <terje> how can I configure my desktop system not to boot into Gnome. I don't want to run X11.
[02:41] <geremy> does anybody have any recommendations for where I could go to get some more help with my tv out issue?
[02:41] <SeaPhor> peace -out
[02:42] <mrpockets> so Brasero just botched a burn, and now the drive is "busy" and won't open or burn anything else
[02:42] <mrpockets> tried to  unmount it but it says its not mounted.
[02:43] <indra> i don't know how unmount
[02:43] <type_t> cat /proc/partitions
[02:43] <roxan> mrpockets, try sudo eject
[02:43] <mrpockets> roxan,  yeah that just worked
[02:43] <mrpockets> thanks
[02:44] <Randall> So, I have a question i have a Nvidia Geforce4: MX 420 on hardy heron and when i enable it in hardware drivers and reboot it tells me i have to boot in low-graphics mode. How do i tell if i have installed the drivers properly? and i've heard i need nvidia-glx from some people and nvidia-glx-legacy from others?
[02:44] <indra> yes i was write
[02:44] <indra> i don't have unmount command
[02:44] <scunizi> Randall, have you tried to make modifications to the driver via nvidia-settings?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:45] <mrpockets> indra, umont
[02:45] <mrpockets> umount  *
[02:45] <roxan> mrpockets, umount -a = umount *
[02:45] <Randall> scunizi: i'm not quite sure how to, but it claims to be installed
[02:46] <mrpockets> lol, no, i meant that * as a correction to my previous typo
[02:46] <indra> thanks
[02:46] <scunizi> Randall, there are a couple of ways to access it.. from terminal with nvidia-settings and system>Admin>Nvidia X server settings
[02:46] <type_t> botched brasero burn.. its has to reset the .. somehow.
[02:47] <mrpockets> type_t, wtf're you talking about
[02:47] <Logikos> i'm a windows user that has dabeled a little bit with linux here and there, id eventualy like to switch over to useing only linux ... but i dont want to sacrifice windows incase i need to do something in a hurry and dont have time to figure it out in linux ... is there an easy way to make it so i can use both on one computer?
[02:47] <Jangari> !pastebin
[02:47] <Randall> scunizi: k, when i access it...it tells me i need to run it as root or something but when i type that it crashes the x-server. and i'm not sure what to change?
[02:47] <Cycom> Logikos: Dual boot!
[02:48] <roxan> !dualboot | Logikos
[02:48] <scunizi> Randall, try starting it with sudo nvidia-settings
[02:48] <Cycom> Logikos: use something like Gparted to resize your discs (sorry guys, I still don't trust the installers resizing) and the install linux on the free space!
[02:48] <alesan> Logikos: Cycom: dual boot is so unconvenient. I work very well with virtual machines.
[02:48] <Randall> scunizi: and after that what would i change
[02:48] <Logikos> Cycom: i understand the concept but not sure how to set it up, do i instal windows first, then linux on the same partition, do i instal linux first, then windows .. on same or different partitions
[02:48] <type_t> its happened where its like in lala land . cant close some eFing connection..
[02:48] <Cycom> alesan: yeah, but no wobbly windows in a VM :)
[02:48] <Logikos> Cycom: reading that, sec
[02:48] <scunizi> Logikos, there are several ways.. dual boot.. virtual box and vmware and install windows in a vm.
[02:48] <alesan> Cycom: why?
[02:48] <Cycom> alesan: no 3d support.
[02:48] <Cycom> alesan: at least, not with a windblows support.
[02:48] <roxan> Logikos, vm is alos a good idea and I also do the same
[02:48] <amuseme> or lived CD
[02:49] <scunizi> Randall, check  the resolution settings and make the needed changes for your system
[02:49] <alesan> Cycom: vmware has 3d support inside virtual machines.
[02:49] <go_beep_yourself> my friend just installed openssh-server i can ping, nmap shows 22 open, i get a login prompt with his username asking for the password. i put in the password correct everytime and get permission denied. he even tried changing the password and we tried that. any ideas? please help.
[02:49] <alesan> anyway
[02:49] <Logikos> roxan: is vm kinda like ms virtual pc ?
[02:49] <Cycom> alesan: only for DX9, not for openGL
[02:49] <Jangari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/63499/ this is my output from trying to install a java application from a .bin file running ./file.bin. Any idea what's going wrong?
[02:49] <roxan> Logikos, exactly but far better
[02:49] <alesan> why do you need 3d, the most unuseful feature ever.
[02:49] <Cycom> go_beep_yourself: permission denied?
[02:49] <Cycom> alesan: I use expo and scale constantly.
[02:49] <Randall> scunizi: do i have to do that after i enable the driver from hardware drivers. Right now it says i don't appear to be using the nvidia x driver
[02:49] <go_beep_yourself> Cycom-> Permission denied, please try again.
[02:50] <scunizi> Randall, yes
[02:50] <alesan> Cycom: I am not sure what is that but - do you need that in a virtual machine?
[02:50] <Logikos> roxan: so you have linux instaled and run windows in a vm ? does it have full access to all resources and perifials (usb ports etc) .. i know i had problems with ms virtual pc in that it couldnt see my flash drives for some reason
[02:50] <dublpaws> go_beep_yourself: there might be a setting in sshd.conf (or something) where remote login is disabled
[02:50] <alesan> do you need that so much that you dual boot for that?
[02:50] <roxan> Logikos, yes
[02:50] <Randall> scunizi: also would you know if i need nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:50] <roxan> Logikos, you can access all usb devices
[02:50] <Cycom> alesan: need? no. Want? yes.
[02:50] <roxan> !enter | roxan
[02:51] <Cycom> go_beep_yourself: how are you connecting to the machine?
[02:51] <scunizi> Randall, I've run nvidia-gls with a mx-440 just fine so maybe that one for yours.
[02:51] <indra> umount /dev/sda1
[02:51] <Cycom> go_beep_yourself: like 'ssh <host>' from your linux box?
[02:51] <indra> i am writting umount /dev/sda1
[02:51] <Logikos> roxan: all of my hdd's are ntfs ... i could clear my primary drive out and keep my data on the other drives so that way i can use whatever ubuntu prefers for a filesystem on it ... but will both ubuntu and windows from the vm be able to access the other ntfs drives efficently?
[02:51] <indra> and he say device is busy
[02:52] <bug_> Hi I'm trying to change my startup sounds but they are not working, what do I do to get them to play?
[02:52] <Cycom> Logikos: if you want to really use linux, I'd say dual boot, and force yourself to use it
[02:52] <Randall> scunizi: what is the exact command to check resolution settings and how do i change it in nvidia-settings
[02:52] <Cycom> Logikos: or, if you have an extra machine, use that instead.  Linux will run well on just about anything newer than 5 years old :)
[02:52] <roxan> Logikos, yes it can. with shared drive. but if you want to put vmware's virtual machine in ntfs partition nudge me for a little trick
[02:53] <scunizi> Randall, once you enable the restricted driver then start nvidia settings it's graphical .. you'll see it
[02:53] <n8tuser1> indra-> sudo fuser -k /dev/sda1  assuming that sda1 is not where your root  /   is
[02:53] <roxan> Logikos, trust me go for it. you wont regret
[02:53] <Randall> k
[02:53] <indra> thx
[02:53] <n8tuser1> Randall-> dont know if  xdpyinfo  would show it
[02:53] <indra> know is work
[02:54] <Randall> scunizi: will it tell me i need to start in a "low-res" graphics mode because that's what happens everytime i try enabling the driver
[02:54] <Logikos> Cycom: i used to put linux on my secondary pc ... and figured i'd learn it ... and i messed with it a little but ... i didnt disiplin myself enough to use it :\
[02:54] <scunizi> Randall, maybe..
[02:54] <bug_> do the wavs have to be a certain length to be played on startup?
[02:54] <Cycom> Logikos: basically, I put linux on my laptop and forced myself to use it for everything
[02:55] <Cycom> Logikos: there were some times when I REALLY NEEDED WINDOWS because I had no idea what I was doing, but it turned out that I just learned how to do it in linux.
[02:55] <roxan> Logikos, if you want to use it use it. if you put in two pc you will never learn.
[02:55] <roxan> Logikos, i agree with cycom
[02:55] <scunizi> Logikos, what things do you think that you won't be able to do easily in linux that you would have to do quickly in windows?
[02:55] <Cycom> Logikos: gradually I noticed neat things along the way like I could mount network shares more easily, or surf the web without worrying so much about viruses, or have my mighty mouse's horizontal scroll work
[02:56] <Cycom> Logikos: videos suddenly played without 10 different applications
[02:56] <roxan> Logikos, actioni speaks louder than words. if you want to discuss between windows and linux you will get old and the discussion will still conitnue.
[02:56] <SeaPhor> Randall, yes, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:56] <Arouca> oieee
[02:56] <Cycom> Logikos: I didn't need to buy software as often, and when I did, I got a lot more value for my money.
[02:56] <Randal1> seaphor: yes to what?
[02:56] <Cycom> awwww
[02:57] <SeaPhor> then set your own ...
[02:57] <roxan> Cycom, you can always donate money you were going to waste on software to projects like olpc
[02:57] <Randal1> seaphor: but do u know if it will tell me it needs to start in a "low-res" mode after i restart the comp after enabling?
[02:57] <SeaPhor> then set your own ... Randall
[02:57] <riz0n> has anyone successfully configured ubuntu to allow vnc sessions to gdm
[02:58] <Cycom> roxan: I use it to buy gas for my car instead :)
[02:58] <roxan> riz0n, didnt' get you
[02:58] <Jangari> anyone know of a MIDlet emulator that works on linux?
[02:58] <riz0n> ok here's what im trying to do.. im trying to set it up where i can use VNC to connect to gdm (a login window) and allow me to login to this server with any username or password on the system
[02:58] <roxan> Cycom, whatever you do its your money :P
[02:59] <riz0n> i want this to also to be separate from the console xdm/gnome session
[02:59] <Cycom> roxan: till I spend it.  Or pay taxes on it.
[02:59] <SeaPhor> Randal1, have you installed drivers from the nvidia site?
[02:59] <roxan> riz0n, there is remote loging opton but havn't tried it
[02:59] <Cycom> riz0n: iirc gnome can't do more than one session
[02:59] <Logikos> Cycom: yeah, i need to get there, i've messed with linux off and on alot ... but usualy used it to make servers ... rather than actualy useing it as a workstation ... for it to replace windows i need to use it as a worksation .. i can use firefox on linux, and openoffice ... and i hope to find other linux software to replace the other things i do...
[02:59] <Cycom> Logikos: just get vmware on linux and run windows in a VM if the poop hits the fan
[02:59] <riz0n> well normally there wont be anyone logged in from the console
[02:59] <himuraWinMo> Hey all. I am trying find a good opensource/free documentation software. any suggestions?
[02:59] <Randal1> seaphor: no, I haven't no one has explained to me how really i've tried stuff read lots of wikis and community docs but nothing seems to work
[03:00] <Logikos> Cycom, roxan: thank you both for your help
[03:00] <Cycom> Logikos: good luck m8
[03:01] <Jangari> himuraWinMo: documentation software?
[03:01] <hellhound> is there a way to set the screensaver to not activate when watching a flash video ?
[03:01] <SeaPhor> Randal1, so yo have "tried" stuff, does that mean you have installed "stuff"?
[03:01] <riegersn> How can I check if my dvd burner can burn dual layer dvd's ?
[03:01] <scunizi> SeaPhor, Randal1 has an older mx420 card..  the newer driver won't neccessarily work for him
[03:01] <roxan> Logikos, see you soon on linux :P
[03:02] <scunizi> riegersn, try it.
[03:02] <Randal1> scunizi: i can give u info u need to help me because i am on a wireless right now i don't necesarrily want to restart
[03:02] <fassar> helo
[03:02] <scunizi> riegersn, k3b is a better burner than brassero .. at least in my opinion
[03:02] <himuraWinMo> Hey all. I am trying find a good opensource/free documentation software. any suggestions?
[03:02] <scunizi> Randal1, sure what kind of info?
[03:03] <SeaPhor> scunizi, Randal1 may have installed a bunch of crap thats preventing him from being able to use his card effectively
[03:03] <riegersn> scunizi, i don't have any dual layer dvd's right now but don't want to buy any if i can't use them
[03:03] <sma4kediri> omong opo?
[03:03] <Randal1> SeaPhor: prolly right so now it's really messed up
[03:03] <Jangari> himuraWinMo: what sort of software?
[03:03] <scunizi> SeaPhor, maybe.. I won't know how to fix that for Randal1 .. do you have the experience to do that?
[03:03] <Randal1> scunizi: whatever info u need to figure out what is wrong
[03:03] <Fezzler1> If my boot drive is 6.01 gig, how big should my swap file be?  321mB too small
[03:04] <flemota> i cant install my webcam
[03:04] <roxan> Fezzler1, its dependend on ram not boot drive
[03:04] <SeaPhor> scunizi, Randal1 my suggestion is to to go to ground zero, and start fresh
[03:04] <sirjoebob> Fezzler1: swap should be about 3x RAM
[03:04] <himuraWinMo> i manage a small team of network technicians. we use a custom web app for collecting customer info. you know, IP info, cdkeys, and etc.
[03:04] <scunizi> Randal1, sounds like SeaPhor might be able to guide you better.. I wouldn't know where to start
[03:04] <roxan> flemota, so
[03:04] <riegersn> scunizi, found it "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdb -prcap"
[03:04] <Randal1> scunizi: thanks for trying :)
[03:05] <scunizi> riegersn, ah so you're doing this from terminal?
[03:05] <roxan> himuraWinMo, redmine, mediawiki
[03:05] <Randal1> SeaPhor: meaning how?
[03:05] <scunizi> Randal1, np.. wish I could have helped more.
[03:05] <himuraWinMo> i would like to replace our current app with a searchable app that allows attachments and such.
[03:05] <flemota> my ubuntu dont detect the webcam
[03:05] <flemota> its Usb
[03:05] <himuraWinMo> Just got mediawiki installed today. what is redmine?
[03:05] <riegersn> scunizi, im not "trying" to burn one now, just want a way to check if my burner can
[03:06] <roxan> flemota, run and see the output lsusb
[03:06] <hellhound> is there a way to set the screensaver to not activate when watching a flash video ?
[03:06] <roxan> himuraWinMo, you can search
[03:06] <roxan> himuraWinMo, its like launchpad
[03:06] <scunizi> flemota, webcam support is spotty.. there are so many different chipsets and very few linux based drivers.
[03:06] <Randal1> SeaPhor: what do u mean go to ground zero?
[03:06] <Fezzler1> how do i see my total ram?
[03:06] <himuraWinMo> lol. gotcha. searching is tough atm. WinMobile.
[03:06] <himuraWinMo> thanks for the info
[03:06] <sirjoebob> Fezzler: you can type free
[03:06] <SeaPhor> scunizi, Randal1 scunizi is more experienced than i, but i have found that with xorg issues, just start over
[03:06] <scunizi> riegersn, ah.. k.. k3b might do that to. but via the gui
[03:07] <Randal1> SeaPhor: so how would i go about doing that>
[03:07] <sirjoebob> Fezzler: that will tell you total ram. then RAMx3=swap is a pretty good thing to go off of
[03:07] <roxan> sirjoebob, Fezzler1 3X is not always right
[03:08] <type_t> riz0n .. you are trying to get vnc  .. whats the package name of the vnc software?
[03:08] <Fezzler1> looks like I have 645164 ram, so my swamp file should be?
[03:08] <sirjoebob> roxan: I always heard that 3x would be a good benchmark what do you think then?
[03:08] <bobesponja> hey all
[03:08] <bobesponja> my cdrom is broken and my latop can't boot from usb, is there a way to make grub boot from a usb cdrom?
[03:08] <bobesponja> my cdrom player*
[03:08] <roxan> sirjoebob, if you have 1 Gig of ram then 3Gig of swap would be nonsense
[03:09] <goldmetal> can vim 7.x be install as user instead of root in a linux box?
[03:09] <scunizi> roxan, if you ever watch your swap usage you'll find that mostly it's not used .. unless you're doing a lot of video editing and intensive stuff like that.
[03:09] <SeaPhor> scunizi, Randal1 boot from live cd, do a sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf and that will load theoriginal xorg that you had to start with
[03:09] <roxan> sirjoebob, also these days laptops come with 4 gig of ram then 12 gig of swap??? Fezzler1  can you ut -h option
[03:09] <roxan> scunizi, exactly then why waste disk space
[03:09] <Randal1> SeaPhor: does it have to be a hardy live cd
[03:10] <scunizi> SeaPhor, Randal1 close .. not quite..
[03:10] <sirjoebob> roxan: true. good point. i started out working on older HW and that is why he told me to run that much SWAP. I have 2GB of RAM and don't run SWAP
[03:10] <SeaPhor> Randal1, what are you on?
[03:10] <Randal1> SeaPhor: I am using 8.04 hardy heron
[03:10] <T_D_H> Is there a way with the 8.04 install disk to not run the GUI installer?
[03:10] <type_t> riz0n ?
[03:11] <Fezzler1> ut -h = command not found
[03:11] <soreau> T_D_H: The alternate cd
[03:11] <bastid_raZor> T_D_H; use the alternate cd to install
[03:11] <SeaPhor> Randal1, then yeah, that would be best
[03:11] <scunizi> Randal1, you have to mount the drive in the live cd to do that then you have to find the mount point to copy the xorg to.
[03:12] <Randal1> SeaPhor: scunizi would it be better just to wait until Ibex is realeased and try again
[03:12] <upt1me> node.net
[03:12] <scunizi> Randal1, SeaPhor sometimes it's easier not to use the live cd.. just go to Places/File system and look in /etc/X11/ for an older copy.. If it was done automatically it will be dated.. just copy that back to xorg.conf
[03:13] <SeaPhor> scunizi, that is true...
[03:13] <Randal1> ﻿SeaPhor: scunizi would it be better just to wait until Ibex is realeased and try again
[03:13] <roxan> Xchat::hook_print('Join', sub { return Xchat::EAT_XCHAT if (lc Xchat::get_info('channel') eq '#ubuntu'); return Xchat::EAT_NONE; });
[03:14] <scunizi> Randal1, SeaPhor also you could just install ibex now since it's in RC and do the daily updates..
[03:14] <go_beep_yourself> how can i find out what gid=41 is?
[03:14] <Randal1> scunizi: RC?
[03:15] <roxan> grep 41 /etc/group
[03:15] <scunizi> Randal1, SeaPhor one thing to do on a reinstall is to make sure you create a seperate /home partition for all your date.. that way if you really mess things up and need to reinstall you can without loosing all your data.. I experienced that in the last week with a failed harddrive.
[03:15] <SeaPhor> scunizi, that is true...and you can document it that way too
[03:15] <Randal1> ok thanks for the help :)
[03:15] <scunizi> Randal1, RC=release candidate.. it's the release just before the official release with most of the bugs worked out.
[03:16] <Fezzler1> what tells me total ram?  free -t?
[03:17] <Bangers> for some reason, my apach2 httpd.conf file is empty, how can I do a clean reinstall of apache2 so it restores it to default?
[03:17] <roxan> Fezzler1, free -m
[03:17] <Bangers> apt-get remove and install didnt work
[03:18] <lin> hello
[03:18] <lin> Is anyone here?
[03:18] <csilk> yes
[03:18] <musikgoat> !hello
[03:18] <roxan> Bangers, thats the ubuntu way
[03:18] <Fezzler1> says 630
[03:18] <roxan> Bangers, see apache2.conf
[03:18] <cakey_> 360
[03:18] <lin> about this? how to use?
[03:18] <SeaPhor> TY scunizi , for separate home ,,, let me know if this is helpful:  http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=9
[03:18] <lin> 360
[03:18] <lin> 630
[03:19] <csilk> ?
[03:19] <roxan> lin what do you mean?
[03:20] <Fezzler1> I probably have 640 - 2x256 and 1x 128
[03:20] <Fezzler1> so what should be my swap file?
[03:20] <roxan> Fezzler1, you mean ram?
[03:20] <scunizi> SeaPhor, similar to what I followed the first time.. basically create a new partition and copy your data to it.. then change fstab to referance the new /home
[03:20] <Fezzler1> yes
[03:21] <roxan> Fezzler1, try with 512 MB of swap
[03:21] <rebel_kid> i have a disc with one scratch on it, it works just fine but I cant copy it, how and with what can i copy this disc ignoring the errors
[03:21] <roxan> Fezzler1, there is no hard and fast rule
[03:21] <csilk> !chinese
[03:21] <csilk> !chinese > lin
[03:22] <SeaPhor> scunizi, thanx again, i hope i wasn't stepping on your toes
[03:22] <scunizi> SeaPhor, no not at all.
[03:23] <zmonx> every once in a while, my laptop fan starts, even though I do not work on the laptop at all; "top" shows no suspicious background task. what could cause that?
[03:24] <scunizi> zmonx, heat
[03:24] <roxan> zmonx, he is colling your laptop
[03:24] <musikgoat> zmonx: cpu temp?
[03:24] <csilk> zmonx, sounds normal
[03:24] <zmonx> on login, I see: temp 55 C
[03:24] <zmonx> (login via ssh)
[03:24] <roxan> zmonx, i would complain if he stops doing so
[03:24] <rebel_kid> zmonx, if the laptop is on, it is using power and creating heat, if you are using it, it will create more heat
[03:25] <ubuntuchicka> has anyone successfully set up a virtual box or whatever and installed msoffice? would anyone happen to know a super cool !virtualmsoffice linky thing?
[03:25] <zmonx> it spins up about every 20 seconds; I understand it should spin once in a while, so I'm mainly looking on how to turn it down a bit.
[03:26] <scunizi> ubuntuchicka, not with office but that should be trivial.. do you have windows installed in vbox?
[03:26] <SeaPhor> zmonx, and if its a vista box,,, then you can bank on it using more than it should!
[03:26] <jmichaelx> ubuntuchicka: i have vista with msoffice installed on this machine using virtualbox.... but you still need to have licenses for both the windows OS and the office suite
[03:27] <ubuntuchicka> scunizi: i haven't done anything with a vbox ever.  i just wanted a way to run msoffice so i could sync my winmo phone... i really don't know what i am talking about but i wanted to make sure i was googling in the right direction
[03:28] <zmonx> SeaPhor: that's not a very great relief right now, but thanks.
[03:28] <ubuntuchicka> is vbox separate from virtual machine?
[03:28] <scunizi> ubuntuchicka, well.. you install vbox then install windows into vbox and activate windows.. then install office just like you normally would.. that easy.
[03:28] <igors> hi all..the CTRL+S in my gedit doesn't save anymore, open the Find dialog, anybody knows how can i change it?
[03:28] <jmichaelx> ubuntuchicka: what does msoffice have to do with a phone?
[03:29] <SeaPhor> zmonx, sorry, not bashing windows, just being honest
[03:29] <scunizi> ubuntuchicka, you could also use vmware.. same sort of thing
[03:29] <babaklinux> hi
[03:29] <jmichaelx> installing and using vbox is very easy, same is probably so for vmware
[03:29] <roxan> !welcome | babaklinux
[03:30] <babaklinux> what command can format my floppy disk?
[03:30] <Corelogik> Will someone answer a newb question,...
[03:30] <clockw0rk> hi guys
[03:30] <roxan> !ask | Corelogik
[03:30] <scunizi> !ask | Corelogik
[03:30] <ubuntuchicka> thanks scunizi! jmichaelx, i need to sync my contacts/calendar/tasks/etc preferably to outlook
[03:30] <ubuntuchicka> scunizi: vmware is a windows running thingy?
[03:30] <Jadewolf> Hi, do you guys know of a dvd encoding program in ubuntu?
[03:30] <Corelogik> Where's the best place to buy an Ubuntu Pre Installed system on a budget, Dell's sales support is clueless,..
[03:30] <scunizi> ubuntuchicka, just like vbox.. sort of .. same basic capability
[03:31] <clockw0rk> jadewolf: DeVeDe
[03:31] <scunizi> Corelogik, Dell  is probably it.. order it direct from the website.. you need a link?
[03:31] <jmichaelx> ubuntuchicka: i am not sure, but i would suspect that there is a chance that you could do the same thing with linux apps
[03:31] <Corelogik> No, thanks have the link,..
[03:31] <babaklinux> what command can format my floppydisk?
[03:32] <ubuntuchicka> scunizi: so would you recommend i check out vmware or vbox first?
[03:32] <scunizi> babaklinux, type man fdisk into a terminal for instructions
[03:32] <rebel_kid> is there a program or a command to ignore disc reading errors while burning?
[03:32] <superjoe30> what would you use a floppy disk for anyways?
[03:32] <Corelogik> The sales agent at Dell tried to tell me that the support packages they offer were for the DVD playback license,..
[03:32] <zmonx> ubuntuchicka: vbox; it's free and only distroys your disk image rarely
[03:32] <roxan> scunizi, i need the link.
[03:32] <scunizi> ubuntuchicka, vmware is a little more straight forwared.  but vbox offers a nice interface.. you have to get vbox from their site to get usb support
[03:33] <Jadewolf> clockw0rk, thanks, I just had an event here at my house and want to encode the avi's to a dvd for giving out to the guests
[03:33] <ubuntuchicka> jmichaelx: yeah, i have done tons of googling about how to sync with evolution but i am an accounting/finance major and i am going to need excel anyway
[03:33] <scunizi> roxan, k.. just a sec
[03:33] <ubuntuchicka> um...scary
[03:33] <scunizi> roxan, http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&dgc=IR&cid=11973&lid=471885
[03:34] <Corelogik> I'm going to need a laptop and a desktop I can dual head in about another month,...
[03:34] <jmichaelx> ubuntuchicka: ok gotcha. i use virtualbox and found it to be very easy to use. vmware may be just as eay, i have no idea. if you use virtualbox, you will want to download the version from the website, in order to have usb support
[03:34] <Corelogik> time to retire the Mac's
[03:34] <Randal1> when i install things and it gets to a debconf thing the computer always freezes after i try and click foward and when i reopen the window the info is gone
[03:35] <ubuntuchicka> fabulous
[03:35] <cakey_> fabu
[03:35] <Corelogik> I'm looking at about 1500 for both to start then upgrade to dual display, memory and HDD later
[03:35] <ubuntuchicka> i am going to go check that out. thanks guys!
[03:36] <Corelogik> Don't get me wrong, I like my Mac's, but theyre getting old and I cant afford to keep paying apple,..
[03:36] <Randal1> ﻿when i install things and it gets to a debconf thing the computer always freezes after i try and click foward and when i reopen the window the info is gone so now i have a broken package
[03:36] <upt1me> whois ubuntuchicka
[03:36] <scunizi> Corelogik, you might just look at upgrading your motherboard that has a built in dual head nvidia card.. that an a processor I think I saw on tigerdirect for under $160
[03:37] <dVs--> hello everyone ..  i just reinstalled ubuntu on this computer, i have / on one partition and /home on another. When i reinstalled my user account set up fine, but when I try to add two other accounts that were on the other partition its giveing me an error about the dir already existing. Can someone tell me how to fix that ?
[03:37] <marcos22> alguno sabe como desinstalo el ubuntu de mi maquina?? quiero poner windows vista y me vino con esta garcha
[03:37] <Corelogik> iMac G5,.. no upgrading,... time to just get new machines
[03:38] <Corelogik> Seaphor, you have a page somewhere or just hang out here?
[03:38] <Corelogik> k
[03:38] <roxan> dVs--, because the user's directory already exists on home folder
[03:38] <Randal1> how do i fix broken packages exactly?
[03:38] <ubuntuchicka> upt1me: what do you mean who am i? i am just another ubuntu noob that's trying to learn more
[03:38] <dVs--> roxan:  correct how do i relink them ?
[03:39] <marcos22> 	
[03:39] <marcos22> one knows how to uninstall the ubuntu on my machine? I want to put Windows Vista
[03:39] <dVs--> or what do i do  ?
[03:39] <SeaPhor> G'night all
[03:39] <Corelogik> marcos22 , run the install disc and reformat?
[03:39] <scunizi> marcos22, go to ##windows for windows support
[03:39] <roxan> dVs--, ahmm go to the home partition rename all the folders that have the user name you were going to create and after creating just shift back
[03:39] <roxan> marcos22, theres windows KB on that
[03:40] <dVs--> heh .. k ..
[03:40] <dVs--> :/
[03:40] <marcos22> 	
[03:40] <marcos22> but I said there was an error in the partition
[03:40] <Randal1> ﻿how do i fix broken packages exactly?
[03:40] <sleven> where can  see a list of everyting i can apt-get?
[03:40] <roxan> dVs--, there may be better way though
[03:41] <roxan> Randal1, what do you mean?
[03:41] <Corelogik> marcos22 , unless soemthings changed with Vista, delete the partition, repartition the drive, reformat, install windows, pray,..
[03:41] <dVs--> how ?
[03:41] <scunizi> sleven, you can go to System/Admin/Synaptic package manager.
[03:41]  * Corelogik hasn't used Windows in 8 years,...
[03:41] <roxan> dVs--, if i ware you i would have done that. there may exists a better way of which i am unaware currently or isn't striking my mind
[03:42] <Randal1> roxan: well this debconf thing came up and froze  so i had to force quit the thing and it broke the pakage
[03:42] <dVs--> oh ok  ..  naw thats simple enough .. i juust didnt think of it :(
[03:42] <igors> hi all..the CTRL+S in my gedit doesn't save anymore, open the Find dialog, anybody knows how can i change it?
[03:42] <roxan> Randal1, wait
[03:43] <Randal1> roxan?
[03:43] <igors> i've already asked before, sorry...but i really have no idea what to do!
[03:43] <Randal1> roxan: like the window goes blank
[03:44] <justin__> Anyone able to tell me how to set up a L.A.M.P.?
[03:44] <scunizi> justin_, do you have desktop installed?
[03:44] <justin__> well it's on unslung
[03:44] <scunizi> justin_, ?
[03:44] <superjoe30> igors, system->preferences->apperance preferences->interface
[03:44] <justin__> er...
[03:45] <roxan> jussi01, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[03:45] <Corelogik> ooh, now theres a link I find useful
[03:45] <scunizi> roxan, there's an easier way
[03:45] <Randal1> k, when i update to ibex when it is released will it probably fix my driver issue with my video card
[03:46] <igors> superjoe30, i has "editable meu shortcuts keys", i've unchecked now, but how can i change the shortcut now?
[03:46] <justin__> I am running ubuntu, but i want to set up a torrent on a linksys wireless operating on linux, can only access it through terminal
[03:47] <Elijah> I am trying to get Ubuntu to work with Quickbooks online but it says I need IE 6 or higher? Is there a way to put IE 6 + on Ubuntu?
[03:47] <lufthanza> justin__: rtorrent
[03:47] <superjoe30> igors, make them editable, and then I dunno, right click on the toolbar in gedit or something and change it back, and then make them uneditable
[03:47] <roxan> Elijah, you can use wine but there is firefox addon that can do the same
[03:47] <justin__> I'm was trying to get torrentflux to work, but i can't seem to get the web interface to work
[03:47] <RoMeLuKo> God job! :D
[03:47] <scunizi> justin_, to install LAMP open Synaptic package manager.. go to edit and choose Mark Packages by Task.. in there you'll be able to put a check mark next to LAMP and install.
[03:48] <Randal1> ﻿k, when i update to ibex when it is released will it probably fix my driver issue with my video card also when i update do i need to specify during the update for it to update grub
[03:48] <scunizi> Randal1, don't do update.. do a reinstall.
[03:48] <roxan> !ibex | Randal1
[03:48] <lufthanza> I need help setting up an mta to use my yahoo  account to send email
[03:48] <justin__> I wish it were that easy, on here i could use synaptic but on the slug i can only use ipkg
[03:48] <Randal1> scunizi: how would i do that?
[03:49] <_2> roxan why did you call the bot on Randal1 ?
[03:49] <justin__> I just don't know how to set up mysql, or phpmyadmin to read php files I guess
[03:49] <scunizi> Randal1, download the new iso and burn it.. put it in the cd rom and restart the machine.. on boot it will have an install button after getting to the gui
[03:49] <Corelogik> Question about running LAMP stack on Linux, after install is there a directory somewhere that serves as web root for url's a browser?
[03:50] <scunizi> Corelogik, /var/www
[03:50] <Randal1> scunizi: so don't do it through update manger? and i won't lose files or have to repartition?
[03:50] <_2> Randal1 short answer to both of your questions.   hopefully and shouldn't.
[03:50] <Corelogik> scunizi http://localhost/var/www ?
[03:51] <_2> Randal1 just wait until the release date and use the update manager   (assuming it's not broken.)
[03:51] <scunizi> Randal1, if you currently have a seperate /home partition then no you won't if you don't format it as part of the install.. if your /home is part and parcel with your root directory now then you'll loose it unless you move it before installing.
[03:51] <justin__> i think it's /opt/share/www
[03:51] <Flannel> Corelogik: /var/www/ is http://localhost/
[03:51] <scunizi> justin_, nope
[03:51] <Randal1> scunizi: ok
[03:52] <Flannel> Corelogik: /var/www/index.html is http://localhost/index.html
[03:52] <blackvd> I just built a computer off newegg and ordered all the parts and remembered I need a wifi card for it. Given Linux track record with wifi I was wondering if someone could suggest a card that would work well?
[03:52] <Corelogik> Flannel, so how would I enter that in a browser to test pages? on my Mac its http://localhost/
[03:52] <roxan> Randal1, di you still need to fix the broken package?
[03:52] <Flannel> blackvd: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:52] <blackvd> Flannel:ok thanks
[03:52] <Randal1> also it freezes when i get to this "Debconf on randall-desktop" part on the installation of a package is there anyway to fix this
[03:52] <scunizi> Corelogik, same
[03:52] <Flannel> Corelogik: You'd put something into /var/www/ and then view it in http://localhost/
[03:52] <Randal1> roxan: yes
[03:52] <justin__> right I was accessing it on a different server than my own puter
[03:52] <Corelogik> ah gotcha, thanks
[03:53] <roxan> Randal1, i have bad memory and i couldn't remember but sudo dpkg --configure -a is the thing u need
[03:53] <_2> !hardware > blackvd
[03:53] <scunizi> Randal1, maybe.. open synaptic and go to edit then choose Fix Broken Packages
[03:54] <babaklinux> do this command copy 1 in to the floppy ? dd if=/1 of=/dev/fd0
[03:54] <_2> babaklinux if file 1 exists in the pwd yes.
[03:54] <Elijah> roxan: Does the firefox addon fvully emulate IE?
[03:54] <_2> err i mean in  /
[03:54] <_2> sorry.
[03:55] <Randal1> if i fix the package from recovery mode do i need an active internet?
[03:55] <roxan> Elijah, i think it does. can you search in the addons
[03:55] <scunizi> Elijah, nothing fully emulates IE.. not even IE5lin
[03:55] <IamSOG> I have been trying to View this web page, but my friends tells me there's no way to View OCX under linux... but I wonder http://219.73.41.206:6081   <--- U guys know how to View this ?
[03:55] <roxan> Randal1, you can try without internet and come back to internet after it needs new thing
[03:55] <scunizi> *ie4linux
[03:56] <Randal1> actually i'll remove the pkg not sure how though
[03:56] <beiubong> hi moi nguoi
[03:56] <Elijah> I am in the field right now on my non-ubuntu compatible laptop, can anyone test this with a IE emulator in Ubuntu? http://oe.quickbooks.com/buy_now.cfm
[03:56] <Randal1> the part it gets stuck on is "Debconf"
[03:56] <_2> babaklinux "if=" translates to "input file is"    so it has to be a file (inode) at the address given.
[03:56] <Corelogik> IamSOG , looks like there somethign missing from the page, either some code or some kind of plugin
[03:56] <Elijah> I am trying to make a decision for a company very far away
[03:57] <roxan> Randal1, did you tried dpkg --configure -a
[03:57] <Elijah> The link will just say your browser is not compatible ... you need IE 6+
[03:57] <IamSOG> Corelogik it's not missing, just need um.. OCX
[03:57] <sleven> can i do something to get the PID of the terminal i have open (say i ahev several open)?
[03:58] <Randal1> roxan: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[03:58] <scunizi> Elijah, that's because it requires directx and probably some custom asp programming.. I go to several sites like that and as a result need windows installed in a VM.  Makes me mad but not much to do about it.
[03:58] <_2> babaklinux aslo the file will be writen "raw" to the "of="  which translates to "output file is"  and in the example you gave the file /dev/fd0 is the "floppy disk device"
[03:58] <scunizi> Randal1, try again after closing synaptic
[03:58] <Corelogik> Elijah , probably requires some srt of Active X control, thats specific to IE
[03:58] <flemota> #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-ar
[03:58] <Elijah> I wish quickbooks online would just work in more bloody browsers than IE 6
[03:58] <roxan> Randal1, then another process is doing it. ya close all synaptic, apt-get aptitude and all
[03:59] <sleven> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:59] <Randal1> scunizi: all i have open is update manager? and it won't really close
[03:59] <sleven> very annoying, how do i get rido fthat?
[03:59] <scunizi> Randal1, that's what you need to close
[03:59] <roxan> Randal1, you can do killall -9 udpate-manager
[03:59] <Elijah> Hmm, maybe I can just run their old version of quickbooks in Wine
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> sleven; either you need to use sudo or close some other program using your update manager .. synaptic or aptitude or apt-get
[04:00] <tarelerulz1> Is there any way to read .mkv tagging system in say nautilus ?
[04:00] <scunizi> Elijah, remember win2k & pro don't need activation for installation in a vm
[04:00] <_2> roxan OUCH  -9  ?     will plain killall not do it ?
[04:01] <roxan> _2 it can
[04:01] <Elijah> scunizi: All they have is an upgrade disk and the OS boot drive just failed big time (loud noises), can't even buy Pro anymore can you?
[04:02] <scunizi> no
[04:02] <_2> roxan well good habit would be use as little force as you can to kill things, so they can clean up after themselves
[04:02] <Elijah> scunizi: I did not know pro and 2000 didnt need activation in a VM though! Thank
[04:02] <Corelogik> Elijah , http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2571830&Sku=M17-7503&SRCCODE=WEBGOOSOFT&cm_mmc_o=7BBTkwCjC-p8ByplCjCabTwyKbywgfCjCmH4
[04:03] <roxan> _2, well instead of saying do killall then again do killall -2 then angain dillall -10 then again killall -15 then finally killall -9 is better than to say do killall -9 atleast in irc
[04:04] <_2> roxan i mean while it's true that   sudo kill -9 -1   will indeed. close a stuck terminal.   it is usually far more than you need.     but i'll not debate it here.
[04:04] <roxan> _2, i agree with you.
[04:04] <theJKH> Hey guys i got WINE and i reinstalled Counter Strike Source now twice! and everytime i join a gam or make one i get the error
[04:04] <Elijah> Corelogik: thanks a bunch
[04:04] <Decepticon> !release
[04:04] <babaklinux> _2: I have a folder on my desktop to the name of sky and now I'm here baber@baber-desktop:~/Desktop$  but when I type this command dd if=/sky of=/dev/fd0  this error appear dd: opening `/sky': No such file or directory
[04:05] <theJKH> Serevr is enforceing consistancy for this file
[04:05] <theJKH> models/player/t_artic
[04:05] <roxan> babaklinux, that path would be ~/Desktop/sky
[04:05] <scunizi> Elijah, that is win2kpro
[04:06] <_2> babaklinux there is no /sky on your system.    think about it.    (path is the answer)
[04:06] <Corelogik> Elijah , you're welcome
[04:07] <babaklinux> roxan: now I'm here  baber@baber-desktop:~/Desktop/sky$  but that error appear dd: opening `/sky': No such file or directory
[04:07] <sleven> is Ctrl-d bad close? like in python it has quit(), is that better or it doesnt matter?
[04:07] <_2> babaklinux   example.   ls / | grep sky      and also.  ls ./ | grep sky
[04:07] <_2> babaklinux incorrect path.
[04:08] <_2> babaklinux path is the answer.    you are telling it not to look in /home/baber/Desktop/   but rather in /    they are not the same.
[04:09] <_2> babaklinux also you don't use dd on directories.
[04:09] <_2> fundamental error there also.
[04:10] <Bit_Breaker>  No suitable module for running kernel found. For Virtualbox-ose on ubuntu 8.10 2.6-24
[04:10] <Bit_Breaker> can someone help
[04:10] <Bit_Breaker> or is it a bug?
[04:10] <LL> I'm scanning in a bunch of old photos into F-Spot, but F-Spot change date doesn't actually save it to the file, so if I copy the pictures over to another computer the date is wrong... how can I physically change the date of these files, so that they appear in the right timeline?
[04:10] <_2> Bit_Breaker maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, open synaptic package manager and search for virtualbox.. you'll see the guest kernel mods there.. pick the one that matches your kernel (highest number) and install
[04:12] <Bit_Breaker> ahh. thank you scunizi
[04:12] <scunizi> LL  google a program called Mapivi.. much better manipulation of exif data and dates and such
[04:12] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, np
[04:12] <madwho> anybody could help me to set keyboard layouts ??
[04:13] <madwho> in xubuntu 8.10
[04:13] <madwho> tryed dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[04:13] <n8tuser1> madwho-> ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <madwho> ok thnx
[04:13] <baby-d> hey i need help....what is the lost and found folder for?
[04:14] <_2> madwho i thought it was console-data ?
[04:14] <babaklinux> _2: now what do I have to do? I  have to copy iir_btld.img on flopy disk but it can not work
[04:14] <sleven> rm nevers asks if i really want to delete a file. is it permanently lost if i erase a file by mistake?
[04:14] <Bit_Breaker> scunizi i386 vs generic? arent they the same?
[04:14] <scunizi> sleven, yep
[04:14] <Bit_Breaker> please xplain
[04:14] <baby-d> any one know what the lost and found folder is?
[04:14] <Elijah> scunizi: What is the shred program for then?
[04:15] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, your kernel will be listed as either generic or i386.. basically the same but the two files have to match
[04:15] <scunizi> Elijah, shred?  or shared?
[04:15] <Bit_Breaker> ok i do uname -r but dont see difference
[04:15] <_2> babaklinux cd ;find . -iname iir_btld.img -exec dd if='{}' of=/dev/fd0 \;
[04:15] <Bit_Breaker> oops it generic
[04:15] <LL> scunizi, thanks I'll give it a shot
[04:15] <Bit_Breaker> sry
[04:15] <Elijah> scunizi: Isn't there a shred or tear or something like program?
[04:16] <_2> babaklinux you may need sudo also... i'll repost with sudo
[04:16] <_2> babaklinux cd ;find . -iname iir_btld.img -exec sudo dd if='{}' of=/dev/fd0 \;
[04:16] <scunizi> Elijah, for erasing things on the HD?
[04:16] <Elijah> in the cli? Yes to erase
[04:16] <qbmaniac> guys
[04:16] <n8tuser1> Elijah-> yes there is shred, but you may have to install it if you dont have it
[04:17] <Randall> k, so upon startup "Starting Winbind daemon" fails how do i fix this?
[04:17] <qbmaniac> I just got a dell laptop with ubuntu, and it doesn't detect my wireless... it was working great yesterday, today right now it dissappeared... like if i had no card... anyone had this issue?
[04:17] <scunizi> Elijah, yea there are.. milspec in fact. overwrites with 0's 3+ times to insure .. but for the life of me I can't remember the name
[04:17] <Randall> also, how do i check my system for errors?
[04:17] <Elijah> So what is Shred for if RM is there?
[04:17] <SegFaultAX> shred is a data destroyer
[04:17] <n8tuser1> Elijah-> man shred please
[04:17] <scunizi> Elijah, I have no idea.. never used it
[04:17] <Elijah> It must mean the data can still be recovered if a RM command is used
[04:17] <_2> shred is in coreutils
[04:18] <scunizi> Elijah, could be
[04:18] <Flannel> !undelete
[04:18] <Flannel> but yes, use shred.
[04:18] <Randall> ﻿k, so upon startup "Starting Winbind daemon" fails how do i fix this? also how do i check my system for errors?
[04:18] <SegFaultAX> when you delete a file, the clusters it occupies are simply marked as free, but the data remains until the space is allocated to something else
[04:18] <Elijah> Very nice!
[04:19] <pureworld> Hello, there.
[04:19] <Elijah> That is exactly the link I was looking for Flannel
[04:19] <SegFaultAX> shred destroys the data by zeroing out the space it occupied, or filling it with other data
[04:19] <scunizi> Elijah, don't forget ~/.thumbnails  pics of most everything
[04:19] <pureworld> Could anyone help out?
[04:19] <Corelogik> Is 8.04 still lacking in support for ATI cards?
[04:19] <scunizi> !ask | pureworld
[04:19] <Elijah> So sleven, there is still hope if you stop using your disk shortly after the RM comman was used!
[04:20] <pureworld> I recently installed Hardy on my desktop of Quad Core 6600.
[04:20] <scunizi> pureworld, congrats
[04:20] <Bit_Breaker> ok
[04:20] <Bit_Breaker> im back
[04:20] <Bit_Breaker> thanx scunizi
[04:20] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, np :-)
[04:21] <pureworld> When I see the cpu usage( like top) the cpu usage doesn't goes to full when I load bunch of programs.
[04:21] <pureworld> thanks
[04:21] <scunizi> pureworld, must be working nicely
[04:21] <sleven> is there a rm-command that asks for confirmation before deleting?
[04:21] <Bit_Breaker> how do i remove unwanted versions from my menu.lst?
[04:21] <pureworld> Is there any thing that i have to tune for mutiple core cpu?
[04:21] <sleven> or can i set it to?
[04:21] <SegFaultAX> sleven: man rm
[04:21] <Randall> ﻿k, so upon startup "Starting Winbind daemon" fails how do i fix this? also how do i check my system for errors?
[04:21] <SegFaultAX> sleven: but generally the -i option
[04:22] <pixelated> Bit_Breaker, use a text editor
[04:22] <Bit_Breaker> ok
[04:22] <n8tuser1> sleven-> put a symlink  for rm to rm -i
[04:22] <_2> alias
[04:23] <_2> you can't symlink an option.  but you can alias them
[04:23] <n8tuser1> sleven-> rather an alias
[04:23] <Randall> how do i check my system for errors?
[04:23] <r00t_> How do i fix this? W: Failed to fetch http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu/dists/feisty/screenlets/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:23] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, you talking about older kernels?  uninstall them from synaptic  .. if you simply edit menu.lst then the drive space isn't freed
[04:23] <SegFaultAX> Randall: what type of errors?
[04:23] <Bit_Breaker> where do i make the changes ?
[04:23] <TiMiDo> r00t_, the error is pretty clear.
[04:23] <TiMiDo> the url must be down. or something r00t_
[04:23] <pixelated> Randall, man fsck
[04:23] <Bit_Breaker> cd vcs
[04:24] <sleven> Elijah: what is the disk in this scenario? my harddrive?
[04:24] <trumpetmic> anyone know how to fix ati video flicker?  I searched the forums and couldn't find anything that worked
[04:24] <_2> Bit_Breaker grub menu ?
[04:24] <SegFaultAX> pixelated: for filesystem inconsistencies only
[04:24] <Randall> SegFaultAX: well errors in general...but particularly why winbind daemon dinblind fails on startup and why my driver for my video card won't work
[04:24] <Bit_Breaker> yea
[04:24] <babaklinux> _2: excuse me what do this command ?   ﻿cd ;find . -iname iir_btld.img -exec sudo dd if='{}' of=/dev/fd0 \;
[04:24] <Bit_Breaker> yes
[04:24] <nick_> hey all I want to create my own web sit but what opensource program can I use and were is some good info on someone to learn?
[04:24] <_2> Bit_Breaker removing the extra kernels  should remove their entries in "/boot/grub/menu.lst" also
[04:25] <_2> Bit_Breaker use the packagemanager
[04:25] <SegFaultAX> nick_: this is not the channel for that, try #django
[04:25] <nick_> ok thanks
[04:25] <sleven> symlink?
[04:25] <SegFaultAX> sleven: symbolic link
[04:25] <trumpetmic> is ubuntu known for having issues with ati?
[04:25] <Randall> ﻿SegFaultAX: well errors in general...but particularly why winbind daemon dinblind fails on startup and why my driver for my video card won't work
[04:26] <babaklinux> _2: I confused I don't know what to do for solve this problem?
[04:26] <Bit_Breaker> thanx 2
[04:26] <scunizi> trumpetmic, all things linux have issues with ati
[04:26] <trumpetmic> scunizi: disappointing... so nvidia is the way eh?
[04:27] <scunizi> trumpetmic, yep
[04:27] <trumpetmic> anyone know where to find a good deal on a pcie nv card?
[04:27] <baby-d> if my comp fails to start up right away and it takes it two to three times to load up is it the partition or the computer?
[04:27]  * trumpetmic hops on denver craigslist
[04:27] <SegFaultAX> trumpetmic: newegg.com
[04:27] <_2> babaklinux did you run the command ?
[04:27] <trumpetmic> thanks SegFaultAX
[04:27] <scunizi> trumpetmic, tigerdirect
[04:27] <trumpetmic> thanks scunizi
[04:28] <Corelogik> tigerdirect or newegg has good deals.
[04:28] <babaklinux> _2: this command ?   ﻿cd ;find . -iname iir_btld.img -exec sudo dd if='{}' of=/dev/fd0 \;
[04:28] <SegFaultAX> baby-d: sounds like hardware failure
[04:28] <baby-d> ok
[04:28] <_2> babaklinux yes that command
[04:28] <baby-d> thanks
[04:28] <Randall> ﻿SegFaultAX: well errors in general...but particularly why winbind daemon dinblind fails on startup and why my driver for my video card won't work
[04:28] <baby-d> im new to running my own comp and this linnux stuff
[04:28] <babaklinux> _2: yes not error and go here root@baber-desktop:~#
[04:28] <baby-d> thanks SegFaulttax
[04:29] <baby-d> so is that why this lost and found folder appeared?
[04:29] <trumpetmic> \\\\
[04:29] <Bit_Breaker> do i have to change menu,lst as well?
[04:29] <_2> babaklinux </blinks>   surely you jest ?       type exit, and try it without the sudo.
[04:30] <scunizi> Bit_Breaker, no
[04:30] <SegFaultAX> Bit_Breaker: its always good to keep your grub menu in good order so you dont attempt to load a kernel that isnt installed
[04:30] <Bit_Breaker> ok
[04:30] <Randall> how do i check for general errors on my system (not files)
[04:31] <scunizi> SegFaultAX, if Bit_Breaker uninstalls unneeded kernels grub will automatically be updated to reflect that
[04:31] <_2> Randall read the log file
[04:31] <Bit_Breaker> ahh i see
[04:31] <Bit_Breaker> this is absolutely cool
[04:31] <Bit_Breaker> im never using window again
[04:32] <Randall> _2: I don't really understand it and i'm trying to fix certain problems
[04:32] <SegFaultAX> scunizi: depends on how grub is configured, but in general, yes
[04:32] <Bit_Breaker> lol.. i like this freedom .. its overwelming
[04:32] <Bit_Breaker> < using ubuntu for 1 year now
[04:32] <RyanPrior> Bit_Breaker: But You Haven't Seen How Great Windows 7 Is Going To Be.  !!!.
[04:32] <_2> Randall what problems?  and is the on hardy or intreped ?
[04:32] <Bit_Breaker> really?
[04:32] <Bit_Breaker> it doesnt matter
[04:33] <Bit_Breaker> ill wait and see .. were u ‌being sarcastic?
[04:33] <Guest64811> i have wubi, is there a way to make my wubi a full install of Ubuntu and make it my main OS
[04:33] <Freelancer86> small question, has anyone tried the new live usb creator app in 8.10?
[04:33] <SegFaultAX> RyanPrior: ironically windows 7 is being developed by unix junkies
[04:33] <n8tuser1> Freelancer86->  ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <Bit_Breaker> lol@ Unix junkies
[04:33] <pixelated> maybe it will work?
[04:33] <Randall> _2: It's on hardy (1) starting winblind daemon winblind fails on startup (2) driver for video card doesn't work
[04:34] <RyanPrior> SegFaultAX: ironically the whole NT kernel was developed by unix junkies. But, if you wanna discuss it, love to take you to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[04:34] <babaklinux> _2: without sudo this message appear  http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=edidr
[04:34] <Guest64811> can i make the wubi install my main OS?
[04:35] <Randall> _2: It's on hardy (1) starting winblind daemon winblind fails on startup (2) driver for video card doesn't work
[04:35] <_2> Randall set the startup script for win<whatever> to verbose and have it log the output to a file.   as per the vidio chip/module  that's out of my realm
[04:35] <Bit_Breaker> uhh.. ok  Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall.
[04:35] <Bit_Breaker> but wait theres more
[04:35] <Bit_Breaker> virtualbox-ose is already the newest version
[04:35] <Bit_Breaker> Confused?
[04:36] <Randall> Does anyone here know how to get a Nvidia Geforce4: MX 420 working on hardy heron
[04:36] <Bit_Breaker> an error on my part i believ
[04:36] <Bit_Breaker> wow i had trouble with that card earlier today
[04:36] <Bit_Breaker> on windows however
[04:36] <Bit_Breaker> u have a Dell 8200?
[04:36] <_2> babaklinux i get nothing from that url.   http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=edidr   contains nothing a can read.
[04:37] <geremy> Hola all, still looking for help with the intel 945's tv out capability- any assistence would be much appreciated
[04:37] <Bit_Breaker> i would enable restricted drivers >> System>Hardware Drivers
[04:38] <Guest64811> Can i make Wubi bigger?
[04:38] <babaklinux> _2:  can you see this ?  http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=edidr
[04:38] <Guest64811> i have a wubi install, can i do more with it?
[04:38] <_2> babaklinux no it's the same page.
[04:38] <sp00n> Hi, I don't know where I should ask or go for information for this, but I went to install a program that depends on qt4 and I wasn't sure what package from the repos that would be, so I downloaded the source from sourceforge & I'm compiling it myself but it's been about six hours...should it be taking that long or do I have bad options set for gcc or something?
[04:38] <trumpetmic> does anyone know of a way to stop ati video flicker?
[04:39] <_2> babaklinux what i mean is i get the page   but there is no "paste" on it.   nothing to read.
[04:39] <Randall> ﻿Does anyone here know how to get a Nvidia Geforce4: MX 420 working on hardy heron
[04:40] <babaklinux> _2:  this is  2880+0 records in
[04:40] <babaklinux> 2880+0 records out
[04:40] <babaklinux> 1474560 bytes (1.5 MB) copied, 0.00647153 s, 228 MB/s
[04:40] <babaklinux> 2880+0 records in
[04:40] <babaklinux> 2880+0 records out
[04:40] <babaklinux> 1474560 bytes (1.5 MB) copied, 0.00593688 s, 248 MB/s
[04:40] <FloodBot1> babaklinux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <Bit_Breaker> Randell: Check System> hardware drivers
[04:40] <_2> babaklinux  ok.  you have copied the file to the floppy disk.
[04:41] <_2> babaklinux that is normal output for dd
[04:41] <flishlee> hi
[04:41] <RyanPrior> !hi | flishlee
[04:41] <Bit_Breaker> how can i use netcat an dd to backup my Ubuntu box
[04:41] <Randall> Bit_Breaker: when i do that and restart it says it needs to load in "low-res mode" and messes my resolution up
[04:41] <xcerca> where can i find new panel applets ?
[04:41] <babaklinux> _2:  but when I openn floppy disk there is  no file in it
[04:41] <chetnick> i saw the new version of vlc player on windows, it looks much better than old one. How can i try to update my vlc on ubuntu?
[04:42] <_2> babaklinux one other thing to remember.   generally speaking, in linux "no error message" means "no error occured"
[04:42] <Bit_Breaker> hmm..
[04:42] <_2> babaklinux i can't help what was in the .img file.   but you did copy it to the disk.
[04:43] <xcerca> chetnick , do sudo at-get reninstall vlc
[04:43] <xcerca> or remove then install
[04:43] <babaklinux> _2:  can you see this? http://ftp.sco.com/pub/openserver5/507/drivers/iir_507b/iir_readme.txt
[04:43] <_2> babaklinux or at least to /dev/fd0
[04:44] <xcerca> actually i think it's sudo aptitude reinstall vlc
[04:44] <Bit_Breaker> i have issues with Virtualbox -ose
[04:44] <rezentless> hello
[04:44] <babaklinux> _2:  did you see that?
[04:44] <_2> babaklinux sure.
[04:44] <xcerca> but if you just run apt-get update and there is a new version then it will show you in the update manager
[04:44] <pixelated> Bit_Breaker, me too, but when i get a new machhine they will be fixed :')
[04:45] <Bit_Breaker> i installed kernel modules through sypnaptic manager, and i get wierd message when starting it from term
[04:45] <erbi> hello
[04:45] <Bit_Breaker> ??
[04:45] <pixelated> what error?
[04:45] <chetnick> xcerca: thanks, i already ran sudo apt-get update, i will try one of the two suggestions you gave me :)
[04:45] <Bit_Breaker> Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall.
[04:46] <pixelated> did you reinstall?
[04:46] <type_t> sp00n its usual to take so long have you compiled that long before.?
[04:46] <erbi> can somebody help me with extracting contents of .iso into my external HD ?
[04:46] <Bit_Breaker> i do an install and then it tells me newest version is already installed
[04:46] <sp00n> type_t: I have not seen compile times like that that weren't recompiling kernel or something.
[04:46] <pixelated> what bout reinstall?
[04:47] <Bit_Breaker> i did
[04:47] <pixelated> still says it?
[04:47] <SegFaultAX> erbi: man mount
[04:47] <Bit_Breaker> no good should i disable then re-enable modules?
[04:47] <sp00n> type_t: as long as that does seem normal for compiling a package like Qt, I didn't want to have to go through all my compile settings
[04:48] <SegFaultAX> sp00n: try compiling open office, its an experience believe me
[04:49] <Randall> ﻿Does anyone here know how to get a Nvidia Geforce4: MX 420 working on hardy heron? I already tried restricted drivers
[04:49] <type_t> its a good thing if you let it be for a while. unless it totally seems fedup.
[04:49] <PeterBye> how do I find out what wireless driver I'm using and then configure kismet using that information
[04:49] <babaklinux> _2:  did you read?
[04:50] <sleven> is it possible to copy text from windows to vmware-ubuntu? it doesnt seem to work for me...
[04:50] <Spets> !PeterBye "lshw -C network"
[04:50] <Oculusx9> Does anyone know how to reset monitor contrast? I was playing tetris and pressed something on the keyboard and it inverted the colors.
[04:50] <PeterBye> Spets, thanks trying it now
[04:50] <Tardis> Hi! I have a shell account that i can use irssi with, but there is probblems with certain letters (i use swedish charters) anyone know how this is working ?
[04:51] <Spets> Tardis: change to UTF-8
[04:51] <geremy> still looking for help with the intel 945's tv out capability- any assistence would be much appreciated
[04:52] <_2> babaklinux that howto is very streight forward.  (even though the author suggested formatting the floppy for no apparent reason)   what exactly is the issue you are now having ?
[04:52] <Tardis> Spets, shall i do this in irssi or my ssh client ?
[04:53] <Spets> Tardis: irrsi
[04:53] <babaklinux> _2: I want use that structure for make raid disk
[04:53] <Flannel> Tardis: both.  And screen if you're using it (start it with -U)
[04:53] <_2> babaklinux and it's probably old seeing that it suggests floppy disk usage in a season that almost nothing uses floppies now.
[04:53] <Bit_Breaker> :-(
[04:53] <Bit_Breaker> im tired
[04:53] <Spets> :Tardis:  /SET term_type utf-8
[04:54] <Randall> ﻿Does anyone here know how to get a Nvidia Geforce4: MX 420 working on hardy heron
[04:54] <Spets> Randall: you have to crank it by hand
[04:54] <Randall> Spets: probably
[04:54] <Spets> Randall: on a serious note i believe the legacy driver will work
[04:55] <babaklinux> _2: your mean is I don't use floppy disk for make raid disk?
[04:55] <Bit_Breaker> hey _2
[04:55] <Randall> Spets: can you explain how to me as well as if there is conflicting packages which i will need to uninstall
[04:55] <Bit_Breaker> any ideas for virtualbox troubles
[04:56] <Spets> Randall: depens on what you have installed. I think nvida-legacy will remove it for you
[04:56] <Randall> Spets: what happens is that when i enable it from hardware drivers and restart it tells me i need to run ubuntu in low-graphics mode
[04:56] <pixelated> Bit_Breaker, have a pastbin of the terminal output when you run it?
[04:56] <Randall> Spets: what command do i run i terminal to make sure i have nvidia-legacy installed
[04:56] <Tardis> Spets & Flannel: I am using SecPanel... So before i start irssi i shall type  /SET term_type utf-8 ?
[04:56] <Bit_Breaker> gimme a sec
[04:56] <Spets> Randall: were you expecting high-grapics perhaps?
[04:56] <Bit_Breaker> How do i pastebin?
[04:56] <Spets> !pastebin
[04:57] <Spets> !pastebin | Bit_Breaker
[04:57] <Randall> Spets: pretty much because that never came up even when i enabled it on 7.10
[04:57] <Spets> Randall: and now you are using?
[04:57] <Bit_Breaker> cool!
[04:57] <babaklinux> _2:  is this output means iir_btld.img has copy on floppy disk?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/63513/
[04:58] <Spets> Randall: i had some problems with MX 440 on 7.10 and earlier
[04:58] <havok88> @find serj tankian
[04:58] <Randall> Spets: 8.04, but my GRUB menu didn't update and i'm not sure if somewhere in the update process i need to specify it to update
[04:58] <havok88> hah oops
[04:58] <Randall> Spets: though i am sure i am on Hardy
[04:58] <Tardis> normally i type "irssi -h [my vhost] can i combine this 2 commands then ?
[04:59] <Spets> man irssi
[04:59] <Bit_Breaker> here u are pixel
[04:59] <Bit_Breaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/63514/
[04:59] <Randall> Spets: how would i check if i have my driver for it installed properly
[04:59] <Bit_Breaker> thanks for the advice Spets
[05:01] <_2> babaklinux this http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/11403
[05:01] <Spets> Bit_Breaker: Sudo lshw -C display
[05:01]  * _2 <shruggs>
[05:01] <Randall> ﻿Spets: how would i check if i have my driver for it installed properly
[05:01] <Spets> that wasnt it?
[05:01] <Kanito> how can i reload sound drivers?
[05:01] <theJKH> Hey guys REALLY EASY question how do i edit the applacations menu i uninstalled some stuff but there still there in the menu
[05:01] <theJKH> Any help would be appreceated
[05:02] <_2> gconfedit theJKH
[05:02] <Flannel> theJKH: right click it and hit "edit"
[05:02] <bruenig> theJKH: /usr/share/applications
[05:02] <Spets> theJKH: left click and select Edit Menus
[05:02] <Kanito> how can i restart alsa drivers?
[05:02] <bruenig> then a text editor
[05:02] <_2> gconf-editor theJKH
[05:03] <pixelated> Bit_Breaker, and when you use reinstall instead of install?
[05:03] <babaklinux> _2: I do these steps ?
[05:03] <theJKH> i tried uninstalling wine but its still there in the applacations meu
[05:03] <bruenig> theJKH: wine creates stupid entries in the home directory because it is stupid
[05:03] <Flannel> theJKH: you need to purge the package (or "complete removal" in synaptic)
[05:03] <_2> babaklinux that would be a script i made from the "howto" you posted.
[05:03] <bruenig> Flannel: purging shan't remove those created home dir entries
[05:04] <theJKH> thanks
[05:04] <Bit_Breaker> will do pixel
[05:04] <Flannel> bruenig: It'll remove the wine thing, but not the entries for the programs installed in wine
[05:04] <_2> babaklinux if you ran that script it would do everything that you can do from the present system. including telling the next steps.
[05:04] <_2> babaklinux that's all i can do for you on that.
[05:05] <babaklinux> _2: I'm very confused first step is make floppy disk now I don't know it maked or not?
[05:05] <Elijah> Anybody here taken the Ubuntu Certification courses?
[05:05] <Kanito> how can i reload sound drivers?
[05:05] <Spets> Elijah: whats that? link
[05:05] <genesismachine> I just installed 8.10 on my 2,1 generation Macbook and the right click is now mapped to the down arrow instead of the right apple. Middle click is mapped to who knows what, when it should've been mapped to the enter key. I have right set to 108 and middle to 116, which worked fine as of 8.04...
[05:06] <genesismachine> So anyone have a macbook and have this issue?
[05:06] <Elijah> Spets: http://ubuntu.savoirfairelinux.com/elearning/
[05:06] <Kanito> edit xorg.conf
[05:06] <Bit_Breaker> !pastebin
[05:06] <theJKH> Okay now im reinstalling it
[05:06] <Spets> genesismachine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:06] <Elijah> Spets: It was linked to directly from Ubuntu.com -- http://www.ubuntu.com/training/e-learning
[05:06] <theJKH> So anyone know where i can find wine but in a deb file
[05:06] <theJKH> thew newst wine in a deb file
[05:07] <Kanito> how can i reload sound drivers? :/
[05:07] <freetown> Elijah, ugh....LPI??!?!
[05:07] <Flannel> theJKH: winehq has a repository
[05:07] <Elijah> What is LPI?
[05:07] <Bit_Breaker> here spets
[05:07] <Bit_Breaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/63517/
[05:07] <Spets> Elijah: i did become "ubuntero" yesterday, that was quite fun
[05:07] <theJKH> becuase its an old version in symnaptic
[05:07] <Elijah> What is "Ubuntero"
[05:07] <Bit_Breaker> lol im an ubuntero 2 :-)
[05:07] <freetown> Elijah, a rubbish certificate from 'Linux Professional Institute'
[05:07] <Bit_Breaker> its a title from launchpad
[05:07] <Flannel> freetown: That's nonsense.
[05:07] <Flannel> !ubuntero | Elijah
[05:07] <Bit_Breaker> www.launchpad.net
[05:08] <Elijah> I just want to learn how to use everything FAST
[05:08] <Bit_Breaker> lol@ elijah
[05:08] <Elijah> I wouldn't mind paying some $$ since it is free anyhow
[05:08] <mengqinglin> how to install chinese input
[05:08] <Bit_Breaker> with great  power come great reponsibilty
[05:08] <freetown> Flannel, HA! I am sorry but stupid questions like how swap I should configure and an answer of 2xRAM don't cut it
[05:08] <Elijah> Linux is the way of the future
[05:08] <Flannel> freetown: Please take offtopic discussions elsewhere.  This is a support channel.
[05:08] <Bit_Breaker> it takes time to become a foo master Elijah
[05:08] <Bit_Breaker> sry
[05:08] <Bit_Breaker> lol
[05:09] <csilk> Elijah,  nothing that is really worth learning (tech wise) can be learnt fast
[05:09] <eicel> hi...
[05:09] <Elijah> I still have issues, I can't even get my Sprint EVDO U727 modem to work with U buntu
[05:09] <Spets> Elijah: its accepting the code of conduct over at launchpad. But they make it so that its a quiz/puzzle
[05:09] <Bit_Breaker> ok back to bug hunting then
[05:09] <Flannel> Spets: No it's not.
[05:09] <Elijah> So what did you guys do to become Ubuntero
[05:09] <Flannel> Elijah: Have you tried intrepid?  It has improved evdo support
[05:09] <Flannel> Elijah: Read the link ubottu gave you.
[05:09] <Spets> Flannel: yeah, well...
[05:09] <Bit_Breaker> we joined launchpad
[05:09] <Bit_Breaker> and setup gpg keys
[05:10] <Bit_Breaker> after that the world is yours
[05:10] <Bit_Breaker> ok im off
[05:10] <jshriver> greetings, how do I specify my monitor attributes? (manually, not detect) as it's not detecting correctly
[05:10] <Elijah> Flannel - I glanced at it, its something about security and keys
[05:11] <jshriver> I tried Screen resolution, but it's only allowing up to 800x600
[05:11] <jshriver> and offers no way to specify what monitor I have
[05:11] <Elijah> Bit_Breaker: Right but there has to ba a way to speed up my learning process, I mean googling for things when I need them is great but ya know, kinda slow.
[05:11] <Elijah> Maybe I should join a Linux Meetup group
[05:12] <Flannel> Elijah: don't google, use help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community/
[05:12] <pixelated> google them before you need them...
[05:12] <Elijah> Ok, so the certification program I linked to is lame?
[05:12] <Flannel> Elijah: That's offtopic.  But certification generally isn't a way to learn.  You might ask about it more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <Geoffrey2> hi folks, I'm back after some time off to once again try and make my notebook's internal wireless see my wireless router like it used to...anyone who can help?  And please don't tell me to google it or direct me to a wiki..tried them, doesn't change anything
[05:13] <DaveKong> Is there some reasoning behind why most of the default folders and files are lowercase then the "home/user/" are capitalized along with a few others?
[05:14] <Flannel> DaveKong: the folders in home user?
[05:14] <theJKH> Hey guys would counter stike source run in windows xp in a virtal machine
[05:14] <theJKH> under ubuntu
[05:14] <theJKH> and xp as guest
[05:14] <DaveKong> Flannel, home/someusername
[05:15] <DaveKong> like home/davekong
[05:15] <DaveKong> guess could just say the /home folders
[05:15] <Elijah> Flannel: good point
[05:15] <pixelated> DaveKong, the / dirs are lower case for historical reasons, the subfolders in the user directories are capitalized because it is 'proper'
[05:17] <bugaloo> guys... does anybody know how to disable the nautilus auto completion? also disable it on "alt+f2" feature?
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> theJKH: i wouldn't expect good performance, if it runs at all
[05:18] <Geoffrey2> theJKH, any program that runs in Windows XP will, as far as I know, run in XP within a virtual machine...the question would be how sluggish graphics intensive games like counter strike would be....
[05:18] <theJKH> I just couldnt get it to work in wine
[05:18] <theJKH> and i wish i could of:(
[05:18] <DaveKong> pixelated, proper according to what standard?
[05:18] <theJKH> Serevr is enforceing consistancy for this file error kept comign up
[05:18] <theJKH> and coudldnt find a fi
[05:18] <pixelated> proper english
[05:18] <theJKH> fix
[05:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Geoffrey2: exactly, i'm pretty sure cs:s requires acceleration to be able to play, which VMs can't really provide
[05:19] <dublpaws> bugaloo: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:19] <bugaloo> dublpaws: trying...
[05:19] <bugaloo> dublpaws: then what?
[05:20] <DaveKong> pixelated, or in other words, who says that it is proper?
[05:20] <Geoffrey2> Daisuke_Ido, that, and keep in mind the vm/XP combo is putting extra layers between the game and the video card driver
[05:20] <bugaloo> dublpaws: I dont think it is a shortcut what I'm trying to do
[05:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Geoffrey2: yep.  so in short, i don't even know if it WOULD work, let alone work well.
[05:21] <pixelated> DaveKong, why are you DaveKong and not davekong?
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> pixelated: because it's irc and you can have pretty much any nick you want
[05:22] <DaveKong> pixleated, looks better to me... I was wondering if it is part of some naming standard of GNU/Linux or Human or something like that
[05:22] <kc8pxy> how do i turn off compiz?
[05:22] <dublpaws> bugaloo: there's also $gconf-editor, which is like regedit
[05:22] <pixelated> Daisuke_Ido, and given the choice the capitalization looks better and easier to rea
[05:22] <frogscott> need help my mozilla crashes everytime I run a video on it
[05:22] <pixelated> read
[05:22] <Geoffrey2> wireless apparently remains the great mystery of Ubuntu operating systems
[05:22] <bugaloo> dublpaws: I found it, but I couldn't find where to change a value to that
[05:23] <frogscott> Geoffrey I know someone who has configured everything wirelessly
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i've got a desktop and a laptop in the house both running wirelessly, no great mystery
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> certain chipsets are a pain,, but those are getting fewer with each release.
[05:24] <Geoffrey2> except when it doesn't work, and nobody seems to have an inkling of how to make it work....
[05:24] <DaveKong> pixelated, programmers have naming standards often to make apps work better with each other and things easier to find stuff like that
[05:24] <g_> Does anyone know what the highest file compression that is possible in linux?
[05:24] <DaveKong> pixelated, so I thought maybe it had to do with something like that
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> actually it is
[05:24] <rww> Geoffrey2: most of the times when wireless cards don't work, they're from a crappy closed-source vendor who actively refuses to cooperate with efforts to write Linux wireless drivers.
[05:24] <frogscott> Geoffrey first off make sure your wireless router and your modem are set up right what type of router?
[05:25] <freetown> g_, try bzip2
[05:25] <DaveKong> pixelated, or if changing things might make apps try to install things in the wrong place if they use any of those folders
[05:25] <frogscott> need help my mozilla crashes everytime I run a video on it
[05:25] <g_> which is higher 7zip or Bzip2?
[05:25] <kc8pxy> rww: not even with fwcutter?
[05:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i think freedesktop's standard calls for Desktop, Documents, etc. for compatibility between desktop environments
[05:25] <Gnea> g_: bzip2
[05:26] <Geoffrey2> rww, in my case...the wireless was working fine, had been working fine since Hardy came out, then all of a sudden one day stopped seeing anything...since then, all attempts on here to find out if my card's simply dead or if it's something I can fix have pretty much been met with total silence
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> check the hardware switch, is it seen by lspci, two places to start
[05:29] <Geoffrey2> it's a Dell Inspiron 6000....Broadcom BCM4311 [Airforce 54g) is what lspci detects it as....the Wi/Fi light is lit, and it shows up when I run ifconfig
[05:30] <freetown> hello all...where is the setting for ubuntu to use lilo/grub stored?
[05:30] <csilk> freetown, /boot/grub ?
[05:31] <csilk> depends specifically what your looking for
[05:31] <Geoffrey2> wlan0.....UP, BROADCAST, MULTICAST
[05:31] <PeterBye> there's a new update for hardy that was just released ?
[05:31] <csilk> Geoffrey2,  did this happen after an update?
[05:31] <csilk> or some other event?
[05:31] <csilk> PeterBye, yes
[05:31] <freetown> csilk,  i am not asking for the lcoation of grub configuratoin files.
[05:31] <PeterBye> I see one of the updates as linux-headers-2.6.24-21 but I already have that kernel
[05:31] <PeterBye> csilk, thank you for replying
[05:32] <LF|Irssi> Hi im having probs trying to get this .sh script working on a cron, it's not chmod'ing 777 the chat3.html file like it's supposed to heres the paste http://pastebin.com/d7b30dbf8
[05:32] <csilk> PeterBye, they are just kernel security updates and a few minor bug fixes for thunderbird and gtk libs
[05:32] <PeterBye> csilk, is there a place I can read about these updates before they are released ?
[05:33] <PeterBye> csilk, for example, did you know about them before they were released just now ?
[05:33] <Gnea> freetown: what are you asking for?
[05:33] <csilk> PeterBye, not officially as far as I know, unless you follow the mailing list or talk with package maintainers and developers
[05:33] <Bit_Breaker> i filed a bug guys
[05:33] <PeterBye> csilk, ok thanks man
[05:34] <csilk> Bit_Breaker, link/
[05:34] <csilk> ?
[05:34] <Geoffrey2> csilk, actually, rather strange how it did happen.....on my laptop Ubuntu is suffering from the low resolution logon screen bug.....I tried switching to a plain login screen and found it went so far off my monitor that I couldn't even see the text boxes...somehow, after a lot of button hitting, I managed to get logged in, switched back to the Human interface, and restarted...from that moment on, the onboard wireless won't see any r
[05:34] <Geoffrey2> outer at all
[05:34] <Bit_Breaker> seeya i have to get up for work in 3hrs
[05:34] <Bit_Breaker> ok csilk
[05:35] <csilk> Geoffrey2,  that's pretty strange, I know it' a lame suggestion but have you tried re-insatlling the kernel module /driver?
[05:35] <LF|Irssi> im having probs trying to get this .sh script working on a cron, it's not chmod'ing 777 the chat3.html file like it's supposed to heres the paste http://pastebin.com/d7b30dbf8
[05:35] <theJKH> Hey guys how di i gain ROOT access with useing file browser
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> csilk, how about completely reinstalling the operating system from the CD......did that, no change
[05:35] <theJKH> so i can do stuf with root acess in the file browser
[05:35] <csilk> theJKH, terminal, sudo nautilus
[05:36] <pixelated> LF|Irssi, did you try the chmod first the chown?
[05:36] <csilk> Geoffrey2, that's pretty extreme
[05:36] <freetown> Gnea, long story...need to install nvidia driver but whatever script dpkg is running is looking for lilo but i want grub and lilo is busted anyway...i've purged lilo right now...
[05:36] <pixelated> the/then
[05:36] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: and it's being run as root?
[05:36] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: yep
[05:37] <Gnea> freetown: how are you installing the nvidia driver? from the website or from the supported ubuntu repository?
[05:37] <theJKH> Thank you but i want to be able to get into my home folder
[05:37] <csilk> theJKH,  you can
[05:37] <csilk> just navigate to it
[05:37] <csilk> /home/username
[05:37] <LF|Irssi> well its a crontab -e using root terminal
[05:37] <GundamDudeX> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me out? When I installed Ubuntu, I did not have to install a video card driver and the OS was able to run fine graphically, but then I decided to be a jackass and tried to choose a driver using the Screens and Graphics application..can anyone tell me how I might reverse this process???
[05:37] <freetown> via synaptic...this ain't your normal ubuntu install too
[05:37] <freetown> Gnea, via synaptic...this ain't your normal ubuntu install too
[05:37] <theJKH> doesnt show
[05:37] <theJKH> jus the root folder
[05:37] <theJKH> and like filesystem
[05:38] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: what's the ls -l /opt/lampp/htdocs/chatlogs/chat3.html | awk '{print $1}'
[05:38] <Gnea> freetown: what's abnormal about it?
[05:38] <LF|Irssi> ls -l /opt/lampp/htdocs/chatlogs/chat3.html | awk '{print $1}'
[05:39] <LF|Irssi> oops
[05:39] <LF|Irssi> still dont have 100% irssi skills yet :)
[05:39] <Gnea> :)
[05:39] <GundamDudeX> ﻿ Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me out? When I installed Ubuntu, I did not have to install a video card driver and the OS was able to run fine graphically, but then I decided to be a jackass and tried to choose a driver using the Screens and Graphics application..can anyone tell me how I might reverse this process???
[05:39] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: -rw-------
[05:39] <theJKH> sweet nvm
[05:39] <sleven> how do i add a dir to my path? how do i do it permanently?
[05:40] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: and if you chmod 777 from the commandline right now? is there some other program that's changing it to 600 like that?
[05:40] <Geoffrey2> csilk, I was getting nowhere, I figured if it was software related, given my limited linux experience, just letting the live CD blow away root and reinstall everything would probably be the least dangerous route to take
[05:40] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: not that im aware of,
[05:41] <csilk> Geoffrey2,  if a re-install didnt work it must be an update / kernel module and kernel header version missmatch
[05:41] <csilk> Geoffrey2, update hardy then re-install the driver
[05:41] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: well, i figure the /opt/lampp/ is in relation to some sort of program, so i'm figuring on dynamic content
[05:41] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: im assuming the cron is running as root since i did "crontab -e" in a root terminal
[05:41] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: it's Xampp for Linux
[05:42] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: what is the result of:  crontab -e -u root
[05:42] <babaklinux> how van erease cd with command?
[05:42] <theJKH> is there any tool for cleaning out your linux machine
[05:42] <theJKH> like of cache an d stuff
[05:42] <theJKH> and tmp files
[05:42] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: i'm sorry - crontab -l -u root
[05:42] <theJKH> things that are useless but wont hurt computer if taken away
[05:42] <freetown> Gnea, 1) install on lvm which is also on a raid1. 2) /boot on another raid1. 3) installer stuffed lilo as my default option and I got a kernel panic after install. Worked around that by running LiveCD to get into the system and install grub on mbr. Finally boots up now but then after I tried installing the nvidia-glx-new package along with updates ..  i ran into an error. THen realized /dev/md0 was not mount on  /boot...wiped out contents
[05:42] <freetown> in  /boot (oops) and then mounted md0 on /boot and tried running dpkg --configure -a as synaptic ordered
[05:42] <sleven> how do i add a dir to my path? how do i do it permanently?
[05:42] <rski> there will be in 8.10 theJKH
[05:42] <Geoffrey2> csilk, ok, apt-get update and upgrade says everything is up to date, so I guess the next step is to reinstall the driver...
[05:42] <theJKH> awsome!
[05:43] <theJKH> Thank you!
[05:43] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/d3d0189d5
[05:43] <theJKH> Is the update to it going to be easy?
[05:43] <theJKH> to 8.10
[05:43] <theJKH> Will we just use the udate manage
[05:43] <rski> yes
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> the "cleaner" in 8.10 is a joke.
[05:43] <GundamDudeX> ﻿ Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me out? When I installed Ubuntu, I did not have to install a video card driver and the OS was able to run fine graphically, but then I decided to be a jackass and tried to choose a driver using the Screens and Graphics application..can anyone tell me how I might reverse this process???
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> god forbid you have any packages installed manually from anywhere.  if nothing else depends on them and they aren't in the repo, your software goes bye bye
[05:44] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: hrm, perhaps it got put into your normal user's crontab, i don't see a single chmod entry there
[05:44] <gabi> i love the netbook remix ! =]
[05:45] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: the chat.sh is the script that sets the chmodding
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> theJKH: quickest thing to do is sudo apt-get clean (that will clear out all of the archived packages is /var/cache/apt)
[05:45] <DoYouKnow> anyone know of a command-line tool to switch gcc versions that can be invoked from the shell?
[05:45] <theJKH> will it hurt it at all
[05:45] <yell0w> anybody got a reccomendation for a small news reader ?
[05:45] <theJKH> olike nothing will screw up will it?
[05:45] <babaklinux> how can erease cd in terminal?
[05:45] <histo> !best | yell0w
[05:45] <csilk> GundamDudeX,  what screens and grfx application?
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> the absolute *worst* thing that would happen in that case is that if you had to reinstall a package, it would have to redownload it.
[05:46] <LF|Irssi> yell0w: Liferea is really good
[05:46] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: take a look at the order you're doing this in - you're changing the mode, removing it, and then recreating it - when you recreate it, it's turning up as 0600 - you'll need to re-chmod it after you've recreated it.
[05:46] <yell0w> histo: i'm not asking for best, just a few suggestions/reccs
[05:46] <GundamDudeX> csilk, just the one that is under Applications/Others/Screens and Graphics
[05:46] <yell0w> thanks LF|Irssi
[05:46] <csilk> GundamDudeX, I've never seen that?
[05:46] <LF|Irssi> yw
[05:47] <GundamDudeX> csilk, oh..in that case....err..
[05:47] <n8tuser1> DoYouKnow-> why would you want to do such in a script?
[05:47] <csilk> GundamDudeX, is taht some ati/intel/nvidia specific app?
[05:47] <army12bc> i got a ? bout mounting iso
[05:47] <biko_linux> !es
[05:47] <GundamDudeX> csilk, I don't tihnk so, It was available after my Ubuntu install.
[05:47] <n8tuser1> army12bc-> ask away
[05:47] <army12bc> when i input $ su - no bash command found
[05:48] <army12bc> i got the cyberciti.biz in front of me and first step is worng
[05:48] <n8tuser1> try /sbin/su
[05:48] <bugaloo> does anybody know how to disable the auto completion on gnome apps, like nautilus?
[05:48] <Gnea> freetown: that's pretty heavy.  can you pastebin the error that installing nvidia-glx-new provides?
[05:48] <histo> bugaloo: setting is probably in gconf-editor
[05:49] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: stop X; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; restart X
[05:49] <DoYouKnow> n8tuser1, because if I make a mistake my machine will be unusable. it allows for some margin of error
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> bugaloo: what autocompletion?  i can't think of any situations where it autocompletes off the top of my head
[05:49] <DoYouKnow> well, not necessarily
[05:49] <bugaloo> histo: I already had a look in it, but couldn't find the correct option
[05:49] <DoYouKnow> but still.
[05:49] <sleven> HOW DO I ADD A DIR TO MY PATH?
[05:49] <GundamDudeX> do I type that after pressing Alt-f2?
[05:49] <Gnea> !caps | sleven
[05:49] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, i have question regarding X11 server, when i have a user running X, and i ssh to that machine in my network, how can i run a program which displays something on that users screen ?
[05:49] <bugaloo> GundamDudeX: any path... like /usr/share/local
[05:50] <n8tuser1> DoYouKnow-> gcc is a compiler,  what do you mean by unusable?
[05:50] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: you need to stop X first. Alt-F2 just brings up a virtual console. you may have to init 3
[05:50] <army12bc> $su - no bash command found anyone help on mount iso
[05:50] <bugaloo> guys, I'm talking about a problem INSIDE the X/Gnome
[05:50] <bugaloo> not in console
[05:50] <bazhang_> !iso
[05:51] <GundamDudeX> I guess this is is a bad time to say I've never touched Linux until yesterday?
[05:51] <bazhang_> army12bc, see above
[05:51] <palomer> hello
[05:51] <palomer> how do I input japanese?
[05:51] <Gnea> palomer: use a japanese keyboard.
[05:51] <bugaloo> Daisuke_Ido: I only want to disable it
[05:51] <bazhang_> palomer, install scim/skim
[05:51] <palomer> ahh, found it
[05:51] <palomer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[05:52] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: Gnome or KDE? I'd assume Gnome
[05:52] <bazhang_> palomer, you may also wish to get quick locale switcher a FF plugin
[05:52] <x0000000> !es
[05:52] <yell0w> LF|Irssi: something that will sit in system tray and pop up when new article comes out ?
[05:52] <n8tuser1> palomer-> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-684469.html
[05:52] <freetown2> Gnea, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/63526/
[05:52] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: Alt-F2, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:52] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:52] <freetown2> Gnea, that is the current show stopper
[05:52] <iandexter> GundamDudeX: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:53] <bazhang_> he left
[05:53] <Gnea> freetown2: Failed to symbolic-link boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic to vmlinuz.
[05:53] <MTecknology> jussi01: you busy?
[05:53] <Gnea> freetown2: do you have a /boot/vmlinuz and/or a /vmlinuz files?
[05:54] <Wobert> a
[05:54] <LF|Irssi> yell0w: Lifrea does exactly that
[05:54] <Chris_Britton> is there a way to restart my wired network interface - /etc/init.d/network restart & ifconfig <interface name> down/up doesn't work either
[05:54] <freetown> Gnea, so I just have to create that symlink?
[05:54] <yell0w> LF|Irssi: yah nvm i just found it
[05:54] <LF|Irssi> yell0w: but you have to set it in the preferences to make it do that
[05:54] <histo> Chris_Britton: use sudo
[05:54] <yell0w> :D
[05:54] <LF|Irssi> ok :)
[05:54] <yell0w> thanks
[05:54] <Gnea> freetown: possibly
[05:54] <Chris_Britton> histo, I use sudo
[05:54] <histo> Chris_Britton: sudo ifdown eth(x)
[05:54] <LF|Irssi> yw
[05:54] <Chris_Britton> guys
[05:54] <Chris_Britton> that doesn't
[05:54] <Wobert> anyone who can help me with scons ? - please take a look at : http://paste.ubuntu.com/63522/
[05:54] <Chris_Britton> work
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> Please assume any commands I discuss use root permissions
[05:55] <histo> Chris_Britton: what happens when you try that?
[05:55] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> static or dhcp allocated ip address?
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> dhcp
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> what I'm looking at is the lights
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> on the access point that it's connected to
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> and on the interface
[05:55] <Chris_Britton> you know the green and amber lights ?
[05:55] <bazhang_> !enter | Chris_Britton
[05:56] <Chris_Britton> ubottu, relax dude
[05:56] <Chris_Britton> wtf
[05:56] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> the interface is up or not?
[05:56] <bazhang_> Chris_Britton, dont use enter key as punctuation
[05:56] <histo> Chris_Britton: ubottu is a bot.
[05:56] <freetown> Gnea, i kinda suspect that whatever script linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic --reconfigure is calling...is tryihg to stuff the symlink on / and not /boot.
[05:56] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, the interface is not illuminated so I'll asume it's not up
[05:57] <Chris_Britton> I do see the interface in ifconfig, though
[05:57] <Gnea> freetown: putting it in / is actually a common practice. why it's failing is what's raising the red flag.
[05:57] <freetown> Gnea, any idea where/what script it calls?
[05:57] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> what status does ifconfig shows?
[05:58] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, I don't see anything in ifconfig that says "status" but it doesn't have an address from the dhcp server
[05:58] <Gnea> freetown: it's part of the package, so you'd have to take the package apart and grep through it to find out. alien can help with that.
[05:58] <sleven> can someone tell me how to add a dir to my path?
[05:58] <sleven> using bashrc or soemthng
[05:58] <histo> !user | sleven
[05:58] <histo> !path | sleven
[05:59] <bazhang_> Chris_Britton, how many entries in ifconfig
[05:59] <freetown2> Gnea, hmm... no problem doing touch /test. There is also a /vmlinuz...i think i will blow that away first
[05:59] <zzaappp> is there a way to get a wireless card to connect without having to log into gnome/kde?  the box is a server...  users don't log into X on it.  they want to ssh into the box, but it needs the wireless network up first.
[05:59] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> try ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[05:59] <Gnea> sleven: edit your .bashrc and look for the PATH="/something..." line and just add to it, following the format
[05:59] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, I've already tried that and the interface is not lit
[05:59] <histo> sleven: edit the ~/.bash_profile
[05:59] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, I'm certain the cat V cable is good
[05:59] <Gnea> freetown2: sounds good
[06:00] <freetown2> great...dpkg --configure -a completed at last
[06:00] <palomer> hello
[06:00] <Gnea> :)
[06:00] <palomer> I installed SCIM
[06:00] <palomer> what now?
[06:00] <histo> sleven: add something like PATH=/where/do/you/want/to/go/today:"${PATH}"
[06:00] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> ifup is a different command
[06:00] <freetown2> Gnea, now to see about that nvidia driver...
[06:00] <bazhang_> palomer, configure it and then restart it
[06:00] <n8tuser1> palomer-> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-684469.html  <-- followed this?
[06:00] <Gnea> freetown2: you should be on the home stretch now
[06:01] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, sorry for the misunderstanding, is says "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[06:01] <army12bc> george@george-desktop:~/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911$ $ mount -t iso9660 Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on -o ro, loop=/dev/loop0
[06:01] <army12bc> bash: $: command not found
[06:01] <army12bc> george@george-desktop:~/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911$
[06:01] <army12bc> anyone help with this
[06:01] <freetown2> Gnea, yeah...giving synaptic another go...are modules-restricted supposed to be uninstalled if i use the nvidia=gx-new package?
[06:01] <palomer> nihao
[06:01] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> well use what ever the correct interface name if not eth0
[06:01] <palomer> 你好
[06:01] <Gnea> army12bc: arguments before filenames, always
[06:01] <Wobert> help please : http://paste.ubuntu.com/63522/
[06:01] <palomer> yay!
[06:01] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, the interface name is eth0
[06:01] <sleven> histo: but how? i jave no clue
[06:01] <bazhang_> !cn | palomer
[06:01] <army12bc> arguments?
[06:02] <palomer> I don't speak chinese very well
[06:02] <palomer> btw, I found a REALLY nasty bug in uim
[06:02] <palomer> how do I report it
[06:02] <bazhang_> !bugs | palomer
[06:02] <Chris_Britton> the interfaces I have are eth0, lo, wlan0 (connected), and wmaster0
[06:02] <tango> #ubuntu-cn
[06:02] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> which nic card? and you have the driver loaded?
[06:02] <freetown2> palomer, welcome to the club...however...my problem is not being able to read
[06:02] <tango> ubuntu-cn
[06:02] <palomer> my problem is that uim introduces memory leaks into my gtk programs
[06:02] <jcooke> Anyone know of a way to integrate music player controls and song display into gnome panels?
[06:02] <Gnea> army12bc: like -t iso9660, -o ro, loop=/dev/loop0
[06:02] <bazhang_> Chris_Britton, sudo dhclient eth0 returns what? put in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[06:02] <histo> army12bc: what are you trying ot do?
[06:03] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, it's a Lenovo T60 - whatever intel ethernet card they send and I know it works
[06:03] <lonejack> hi. does somebody know how can I install eplaser driver(epson open source printer driver)?
[06:03] <Gnea> freetown2: not sure... only if they're being upgraded
[06:03] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> if we take the time to assist, can you at least take the courtesy to find out what card?
[06:04] <sekyourbox> What is the standard practice, for migrating a corrupt user account?
[06:04] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, that's not really the problem - I know the card works if I reboot my machine w/ the cat V cable connected to a swtich or other network device
[06:04] <Wobert> Could someone who knows about scons take a look at this, please ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/63522/
[06:04] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, I appreciate your assistance but there has to be some way to restart the interface
[06:05] <Chris_Britton> n8tuser1, I mean restart it in an electrical sense
[06:05] <vikku> hi all
[06:05] <vikku> iam tryg to install libdvdcss in home dir by doing sudo apt-get install /home/vikku/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb but i get err as Couldn't find package libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb....i also  tried doing it by placing the deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives , same err msg
[06:05] <bazhang_> vikku, is it on your desktop?
[06:05] <army12bc> http://slexy.org/raw/s2UOR6MlcS i'm so confused
[06:06] <n8tuser1> Chris_Britton-> what is the results of   ifconfig -a  ?  paste in pastebin
[06:06] <bazhang_> !paste | Chris_Britton
[06:06] <LF|Irssi> Gnea: thanks for your help earlier, the prob was how i had the cron's in order, thanks very much :)
[06:06] <legend2440> vikku: right click the deb and choose gdebi installer
[06:06] <cloud-ieee> Good evening, can anyone help me with an Ubuntu Hardy network install? Please? :(
[06:07] <vikku> legend2440: lemme try
[06:07] <arooni-mobile> with: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[06:07] <arooni-mobile> ;  how do i fix that on ubuntu hardy?
[06:07] <vikku> bazhang_: itsa now in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:07] <army12bc> someone help with above slexy
[06:07] <Chris_Britton> ok n8tuser1 1 sec
[06:07] <bazhang_> vikku, do what legend2440 suggested
[06:08] <Gnea> army12bc: okay, with the mount command, it blindly assumes that commandline switches, AKA arguments, are to be given before the filenames/devices/directories are -  so: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /home/eorge/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on /dev/loop0   is probably what you're looking for
[06:08] <Gnea> LF|Irssi: cheers :)
[06:09] <bazhang_> !icons | Wobert
[06:09] <Chris_Britton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/63528
[06:09] <army12bc> command not found gnea
[06:09] <army12bc> bash: sudo: command not found
[06:09] <Gnea> army12bc: are you stuck in a chroot?
[06:10] <army12bc> what's a chroot?
[06:10] <Wobert> bazhang_,  thats not very helpfull :/
[06:10] <Gnea> a jail
[06:10] <Chris_Britton> I have to go to bed, goodnight
[06:10] <army12bc> i don't think
[06:10] <bazhang_> Wobert, explain clearly what you are trying to do
[06:10] <Gnea> usually a directory that's been cordoned off from the rest of the filesystem
[06:10] <army12bc> how do i tell that
[06:11] <Wobert> bazhang_, im trying to complile a beta version of a game - the problem is that i get that strange error when i want to compile it
[06:11] <bazhang_> Wobert, what game
[06:11] <Gnea> army12bc: well, i ask because sudo is a defacto program in ubuntu - for it to not be there denotes that: a) the PATH has been tampered with, or b) the shell has been chroot'd
[06:11] <Wobert> bazhang_, Globulation 2
[06:11] <bazhang_> Wobert, you have build-essential installed?
[06:11] <army12bc> ok what do i do
[06:11] <Gnea> army12bc: or c) it's been removed somehow
[06:11] <jcooke> Is there a known issue/fix for flash/gstreamer conflicting and causing gnome to lock up in ubuntu.
[06:12] <army12bc> all i want to do is install this game from iso
[06:12] <Gnea> army12bc: try:  sudo -i
[06:12] <army12bc> ok
[06:12] <Wobert> bazhang_, do you mean stuff like...mercurial scons gcc g++ boos ?
[06:12] <army12bc> same command not found
[06:12] <Gnea> o.O
[06:12] <army12bc> sudo worked yesterday on other stuff
[06:12] <bazhang_> Wobert, aye; best to check the read me file that came with it or contact the maker
[06:13] <Gnea> army12bc: open up a whole new terminal window, please
[06:13] <army12bc> ok
[06:13] <army12bc> done
[06:13] <Gnea> now try:  sudo -i
[06:13] <army12bc> took me to root@george-destop:~#
[06:14] <Gnea> okay, good
[06:14] <bazhang_> jcooke, how did you install flash and what version; also what version of ubuntu
[06:14] <army12bc> from george@george-desktop:~#
[06:14] <Wobert> bazhang_, I know - im no c++ programming
[06:14] <Wobert> bazhang_, So i was hoping someone would take a look at the bin and give me a clue as to what is wrong
[06:14] <jcooke> bazhang_, Hardy, flash is the adobe binary, version 10
[06:14] <elpargo> hi, I downloaded the *movile*.img file which is supposed to be run from a USB, is there a tutorial on how to actually move it there?
[06:14] <army12bc> now what
[06:14] <jcooke> bazhang_, have had this issue with flash 9 as well
[06:14] <Wobert> bazhang_, programmer*
[06:14] <bazhang_> jcooke, how was flash installed
[06:15] <Gnea> army12bc: okay, exit from that shel and try the  sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /home/eorge/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on /dev/loop0
[06:15] <army12bc> shell?
[06:15] <bazhang_> jcooke, how about installing flashblock (FF plugin)
[06:15] <Gnea> yes, when you're at a command line prompt like that in *nix, you're considered logged into a shell
[06:15] <jcooke> bazhang_, downloaded the binary from adobe, not using apt, the one I installed with apt originally had the same issue
[06:15] <army12bc> how exit shel?
[06:15] <elpargo> Gnea, you miss a g there.
[06:15] <Gnea> type exit, enter
[06:15] <jcooke> bazhang_, it's most prone to occur with flash, but it happens in other instances as well
[06:16] <Gnea> elpargo: thanks
[06:16] <jcooke> bazhang_, for example sounds from pidgin will lock it if I have music playing, it's a conflict issue apparently
[06:16] <bazhang_> jcooke, well you may wish to wait a couple of days; flash works very well in next version :)
[06:16] <elpargo> I didn't knew 2142 worked on linux, thanks for the hint :)
[06:16] <army12bc> same command not found
[06:16] <jcooke> bazhang_, I'm leaning towards it being a conflict issue with sound in gnome in general
[06:16] <Gnea> army12bc:  exit
[06:16] <army12bc> bash:      sudo:  command not found
[06:16] <jcooke> bazhang_, since I have the issue in other cases
[06:16] <army12bc> done
[06:17] <bazhang_> jcooke, no such problems here with hardy or ibex (RC)
[06:17] <jim_p> here is a weird one. i copleted the installation on tha laptop yesterday, and the very first thing i installed was flashplugin from the medibuntu repo, all done the proper apt-get way. however, running firefox as a normal user, and going in about:plugins tells me "No plugins installed" and i have no flash at all. running firefox as root shows the flash plugin in "about:config" and i do have flash then. what am i doing wrong?
[06:17] <arooni-mobile> with: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:  how do i fix this in ubuntu hardy?
[06:17] <cloud-ieee> Anyone available to help me with a Ubuntu Hardy network installation?
[06:17] <elpargo> the overall problem is that flash sucks, and the people that own it don't give enough attention to the linux port.
[06:17] <jcooke> bazhang_, Yeah, it appears to happen on all of our HP notebooks, I'm betting it's the audio driver, I may try and play with that. Thanks.
[06:17] <Gnea> army12bc: okay, try this:  mkdir tmp && mount -t loop /home/george/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on tmp/
[06:18] <army12bc> mount: only root can do that
[06:18] <Kernel> hello all. how do i use suspend to ram?
[06:18] <_skeet_> hello all, I have a installation question if anyone has a few :)
[06:18] <jim_p> _skeet_: hit it!
[06:18] <army12bc> sudo ﻿mkdir tmp && mount -t loop /home/george/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on tmp/ gets mkdir: cannot create dir 'tmp":file exists
[06:19] <elpargo> jim_p, did you closed the firefox in the account?
[06:19] <Gnea> army12bc: sorry, should be:   sudo mount -o loop /home/george/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911_to_mount_on tmp/
[06:19] <quicksilver_> Hey all. Since my gcc updated. Ive been having problems using vmware and pidgin (thats all Ive noticed thus far).. And ideas on how to get them back?
[06:19] <jim_p> elpargo: the non-root account. yes! i restarted it a few times to be sure
[06:19] <army12bc> no such file or dir
[06:19] <_skeet_> I'm trying to install 8.04 on a Dell Optiplex gx270. I am having an issue where as soon as the kernel loads, the keyboard dies...
[06:19] <elpargo> quicksilver_, unless you are compiling them that shouldn't be an issue, what exactly is "problems"
[06:20] <Gnea> army12bc: then you need to check the Battlefield filename and make sure to type the right one in
[06:20] <_skeet_> I have looked on the forums and there are quite a few issues with reguard to this, but none seem to resolve the issue
[06:20] <_skeet_> this is a PS/2 keyboard
[06:20] <quicksilver_> I click on my pidgin icon... It loads (and sleeps in the processes)... But never actually opens.
[06:20] <army12bc> u mean iso file?
[06:20] <quicksilver_> The same thing happened with vmware... But I fixed that by re-running the config.
[06:20] <jim_p> _skeet_: some more specifications on dell optiplex? like lspci or something
[06:20] <Gnea> yes
[06:20] <_skeet_> I have tried the apci=off noapic nolapic ndd=on
[06:20] <_skeet_> no workie
[06:21] <quicksilver_> I just haven't figured out how to redo pidgin. I think Id just have to uninstall it and reinstall it?
[06:21] <army12bc> home/george/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911 is folder. iso is rzr-2142.iso
[06:21] <elpargo> jim_p, just wondering what's wrong with flashplugin-nonfree from the std package?
[06:21] <_skeet_> cant do the lspci command because the keeboard does not work
[06:22] <elpargo> _skeet_, not even in the shell?
[06:22] <Gnea> army12bc: okay, is this a game that you downloaded?
[06:22] <army12bc> no
[06:22] <ortsvorsteher> army12bc: you tried to mount to /tmp . that cannot work. choose another location to mount. make a new mountpoint like "mkdir /var/<mountpoint>
[06:22] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: no, he tried to mount to ~/tmp
[06:22] <jim_p> elpargo: dunno! the thing is adobes installer does not istall because it cant find some dir
[06:22] <army12bc> made iso cause friend borrowd cd
[06:22] <_skeet_> nope, I was able to install by hitting the numb-lock key randomy at boot, but it does not seem to be working anymore
[06:23] <Kattman> _skeet: are you using a usb mouse ?
[06:23] <elpargo> jim_p, yes you shouldn't use that. I'm talking about the one that comes in the std ubuntu repo.
[06:23] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: oha. i didnt see the ~ ... :(
[06:23] <Gnea> army12bc: okay - where is the rzr-2142.iso reside?
[06:23] <army12bc> home/george/Battlefield_2142-Razor1911
[06:23] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: it was never there - i never said /tmp, just tmp/ since it was obvious he was in his ~ already
[06:23] <jim_p> elpargo: the one in the ubuntu repo has that only-root-can-use-me problem i said at first
[06:23] <_skeet_> I am using a USB mouse, but I have also tried an adapter that converts it to PS/2
[06:24] <elpargo> interesting google seems to think rzr-2142.iso is related to torrent sites.
[06:24] <jim_p> _skeet_: lspci please ...
[06:24] <_skeet_> I have also looked in the BIOS and didnt see any settings on turning on legacy support
[06:24] <army12bc> i know i used same filename lol
[06:24] <elpargo> jim_p, ehh no you said it was from "medibuntu"
[06:24] <Gnea> elpargo: hrm, i see that too
[06:24] <_skeet_> jim_p: any ideas on how to get a shell to run that command?
[06:24] <elpargo> army12bc, what are the odds of that!
[06:24] <army12bc> purpose
[06:25] <Kattman> _skeet_: do you have a true ps2 mouse anyware?
[06:25] <_skeet_> Kattman: no I dont :(
[06:25] <jim_p> elpargo: yes that problem comes from the medibuntu installation
[06:25] <Gnea> army12bc: yeah, sorry, can't continue, we don't support warez in here.
[06:25] <jim_p> here is a weird one. i copleted the installation on tha laptop yesterday, and the very first thing i installed was flashplugin from the medibuntu repo, all done the proper apt-get way. however, running firefox as a normal user, and going in about:plugins tells me "No plugins installed" and i have no flash at all. running firefox as root shows the flash plugin in "about:config" and i do have flash then. what am i doing wrong?
[06:25] <WebDawg> i have the ubuntu cd in the drive now.  I need to install using ncurses instead of all that graphics ish.  how do i do that.
[06:25] <frogscott> Help someone Mozilla crashes on any video played
[06:25] <_skeet_> I can try without the mouse at all..?
[06:25] <army12bc> its not warz
[06:25] <elpargo> hehe so you went to look for the name of the torrent to file to then name your image.
[06:25] <babaklinux> hi
[06:25] <jim_p> _skeet_: are you on a live enviroment now?
[06:25] <elpargo> jim_p, medibuntu is not ubuntu main repo.
[06:25] <Gnea> army12bc: do not argue, you downloaded it from a bittorrent site, it's warez.
[06:26] <Gnea> !warez | army12bc
[06:26] <jim_p> elpargo: well do you know another repo that hosts flashplugin?
[06:26] <army12bc> w.e
[06:26] <_skeet_> jim_p: I have tried both the live CD and the alternate CD
[06:26] <WebDawg> can anyone help?
[06:26] <elpargo> jim_p, dude it's in the std dist.
[06:26] <Kattman> _Skeet_: I have to have two mice pluged in.  One is just  a dummy. But it works for me
[06:26] <babaklinux> I want write an iso file on a blank cd in terminal but I don't know where is my cdrw how can I understand in which dev/? is my cdrw?
[06:27] <elpargo> jim_p, in multiverse.
[06:27] <jim_p> WebDawg: use the alternative cd, or use an option at boot
[06:27] <_skeet_> might a older version of Ubuntu resolve the issue? It seems to me a kernel problem
[06:27] <WebDawg> what is the option.  im looking through the prompts
[06:27] <WebDawg> i tried to google but nothing definitive came up.
[06:27] <elpargo> babaklinux, there is a symlink call /dev/cdrom, unless you have 2 drives that should be it.
[06:27] <jim_p> elpargo: is there i chance that apt grabbed the package from there?
[06:28] <jim_p> WebDawg: damn i dont have a live cd near me. can you try the alternative one?
[06:28] <elpargo> jim_p, open synaptic search for "flashplugin-nonfree" look at the properties, under Section it will tell you.
[06:28] <jim_p> elpargo: sec
[06:28] <elpargo> jim_p, didn't they merged into one a long time ago?
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> woohoo, wireless works again..
[06:29] <WebDawg> dear god.
[06:29] <WebDawg> its gonna take 3 hours to download this
[06:29] <WebDawg> thier isnt a command line option for text mode?
[06:30] <jim_p> elpargo: multiverse :|
[06:30] <babaklinux> elpargo: when I type this command  dd if=OpenServer-5.0.7Hw-10Jun05_1800.iso of=/dev/cdrom  ths error appear  http://paste.ubuntu.com/63529/
[06:30] <jim_p> WebDawg: let me search
[06:30] <jim_p> babaklinux: well you dont mount the iso that way :P
[06:30] <elpargo> babaklinux, last I heard you can't dd a cdrom.
[06:31] <elpargo> jim_p, he wants to burn it.
[06:31] <WebDawg> i see that the alternative has text mode.
[06:31] <babaklinux> elpargo: now how can I write iso on blank cd with dd command?
[06:32] <elpargo> babaklinux, why not use cdrecord?
[06:32] <jim_p> WebDawg: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/dualboot02.png is it something like this?
[06:32] <kinnaz> babaklinux if you would have written that question to google you would already have answer
[06:32] <WebDawg> yeh
[06:32] <adelie42> Anyone here help with a question about hydrogen? Do I need to use a separate program to adjust the pitch of the beats? I see all this stuff about running hydrogen through JACK to do cool stuff. Is that the only way to use the sounds as instruments?
[06:32] <kinnaz> babaklinux http://www.slashdotdash.net/articles/2006/08/14/create-iso-cd-dvd-image-with-mac-os-x-tiger-10-4
[06:33] <babaklinux> elpargo: is your mean this ?   dd if=OpenServer-5.0.7Hw-10Jun05_1800.iso of=/dev/cdrecord
[06:33] <elpargo> babaklinux, no a program call cdrecord
[06:34] <kinnaz> babaklinux hmmmz seems i failed
[06:34] <kinnaz> with link :P
[06:34] <kinnaz> use k3b
[06:34] <kinnaz> :P
[06:34] <elpargo> you shouldn't be using dd if you are asking how it works, it can kill your drive if you use it wrong.
[06:34] <jim_p> WebDawg: what do you get if you press f4?
[06:34] <elpargo> babaklinux, ^^^
[06:34] <adelie42> dd is a great tool for what it is for != cd burning for too many reasons
[06:34] <jim_p> WebDawg: or f6
[06:34] <amason__> you can't use dd for burning cd's
[06:34] <babaklinux> elpargo: what?
[06:35] <WebDawg> normal, safe graphi, use driver update, and oem
[06:35] <amason__> you can use it ot make an ISO
[06:35] <amason__> which you can burn to cd
[06:35] <elpargo> babaklinux, cdrecord is a thin layer on top of dd to do just that so use it.
[06:35] <WebDawg> no text mode anywhere
[06:35] <amason__> dd is for block devices
[06:35] <WebDawg> it looks like you NEED the alternate cd.
[06:35] <elpargo> babaklinux, you shouldn't be using dd if you are asking how it works, it can kill your drive if you use it wrong.
[06:35] <adelie42> dd does not make iso. it makes raw images
[06:35] <amason__> cd is not a block device
[06:35] <adelie42> amason__: +1
[06:35] <elpargo> amason__, you can still use it.
[06:35] <jim_p> WebDawg: wait. i must have an older 7.04 somewhere
[06:36] <paul68> jim_p: is there a way that I can bring up my 2nd ethernet interface and build a firewall in my current config ?
[06:36] <WebDawg> its cool
[06:36] <adelie42> elpargo: can? yes. but you will not get the desired result
[06:36] <WebDawg> it will be done in 1 hr
[06:36] <WebDawg> but i got to sleep.
[06:36] <amason__> elpargo: you have to have an iso9660 image created with dd or somehting else. DD will treat you burner as a block device
[06:36] <paul68> jim_p: current config is isp modem router server new config is isp modem server router
[06:37] <WebDawg> im still here..
[06:37] <jim_p> paul68: sorry i dont know
[06:37] <WebDawg> ill wait till you acknowledge.
[06:37] <WebDawg> aight jim_p?
[06:37] <jim_p> WebDawg: i am making an iso of the 7.04
[06:37] <jim_p> ok
[06:37] <amason__> elpargo: either way though your right its not the tool to use
[06:37] <WebDawg> im out
[06:37] <WebDawg> peace.
[06:37] <elpargo> adelie42, amason__ you can do it, and get it right, but it's not the way of doing it.
[06:37] <paul68> jim_p: no problem if you would have known every question about linux your bank account would be a little bit more healthier I suppose :-)
[06:37] <elpargo> specially if you are asking how dd works.
[06:38] <jim_p> paul68: lmao!
[06:38] <adelie42> elpargo: these is a whole suite of tools with cdrecord that let you do ANYTHING with a CD that is likely built on the same library as DD
[06:39] <amason__> elpargo: iirc you need to put the device into the correct mode before you can begin writing so you would need to issue those commands first otherwise the output of dd will try to be interpreted by the controller no ?
[06:39] <elpargo> so no one has used the USB file from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ ?
[06:40] <WebDawg> im out
[06:40] <WebDawg> 4 real
[06:40] <WebDawg> !!
[06:40] <elpargo> adelie42, correct cdrecord was build so you don't have to know the details.
[06:41] <amason__> elpargo: cdrecord uses the scsi bus.
[06:42] <elpargo> amason__, good to know.
[06:42] <liquid> Hello All
[06:42] <liquid> Does anybody use truecrypt??
[06:42] <elpargo> liquid, for?
[06:42] <TeslaTony> Is there any way to have two seperate LAN connections at once? Specifically, I want to be able to access one router for the internet, and a second router that I am experimenting with firmware on (but won't have a net connection)
[06:42] <orange72_camaro> hi,  ever since I installed and set up compiz my icons on the desktop went away and sometimes flash or when I go over them with a the mouse they show up for a second.  anyone know how I can fix it?
[06:43] <paul68> jim_p: is there a commandline to check which servers are currently running?
[06:43] <liquid> elpargo, In general, I know that on a windows box you can encrypt the whole drive asking for a password before booting but it doesnt seem to work with linux
[06:43] <jim_p> paul68: servers where?
[06:43] <elpargo> orange72_camaro, please ask in the compiz channel.
[06:44] <paul68> jim_p: my servers at home like dhcp dns and so on
[06:44] <adelie42> is hydrogen only a beat generator, or can sounds be used as instruments?
[06:44] <SegFaultAX> TeslaTony: yes, with two network cards
[06:44] <elpargo> TeslaTony, yes although it isn't simple. you will have to learn the internals of linux networking and probably get rid of network manager as it will get confused.
[06:45] <jim_p> paul68: you can use nmap for a quick scan of your network. i suppose you know what ip refers to what pc
[06:45] <jim_p> !nmap
[06:45] <TeslaTony> SegFaultAX: Ausgezeichnet. My net connection is Wifi anyways.
[06:45] <liquid> elpargo, Is that something that can be done encrypting the whole driver
[06:45] <liquid> *drive
[06:45] <saywatmang> anybody know if tehres a way to custimizee the animation of the 3d gears ?
[06:45] <saywatmang> in compiz
[06:45] <elpargo> liquid, of course, that tecnology was invented in linux :)
[06:46] <paul68> jim_p: I just want to know when I'm on my server which servers are currently running since i have them all on 1 machine?
[06:46] <liquid> elpargo, I was looking online but cant find anything im using the GUI
[06:47] <jim_p> paul68: you mean if ftp server is on, dhcp is on etc? well... can you check the ports on that server?
[06:47] <paul68> jim_p: thats what I mean, if you tell me how I sure can
[06:48] <liquid> elpargo, I found this on a site.. system partition encryption with pre-boot authentication (Windows only), and improved performance.
[06:48] <arooni-mobile> hif i'm tryin to send emails from mydomain.com .... should i set up an A record of mail.mydomain.com or a cname record for mail.mydomain.com?  or do i need to do anything like this?  i want to send mail via postfix
[06:49] <MTecknology> Can some all knowing person please help me with something with ubottu config?
[06:49] <elpargo> liquid, as far as I know this is really done at the kernel level. with tools like http://ecryptfs.sourceforge.net/
[06:49] <nicholaspaul> I think I broke my install by deleting /home/user/tmp< now when i log in it says Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds...etc...how can I fix this?
[06:49] <mudkip> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
[06:49] <liquid> elpargo, So truecrypt wouldnt do it
[06:50] <army12bc> what is terminal command for run *.exe
[06:50] <elpargo> arooni-mobile, that depends on how you have your DNS setup, is this your server?
[06:51] <Robb_M> just ask MTecknology
[06:51] <Robb_M> army12bc: you need wine to run an executable file....sudo aptitude install wine in a terminal....then try executing the file again.
[06:51] <elpargo> liquid, I haven't used that solution, so I really don't know
[06:51] <arooni-mobile> elpargo, yes
[06:51] <army12bc> i have wine ok
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> ..can i just mkdir tmp ? but what about permissions?
[06:52] <army12bc> lol now how do i find the folder i mounted in lol
[06:52] <Xpistos> Hey everybody! Can someone help me rdp into my ubuntu server?
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> I made a new tmp but it still wont login
[06:52] <MTecknology> Robb_M: I'm trying to use the PackageInfo plugin that ubottu uses. I keep getting an error thrown at me and I'm sure it's because of the supybot.plugins.PackageInfo.aptdir setting, but I don't know what to set it too or if there's something else I need to do
[06:52] <liquid> elpargo, I thank you, I knew it was easy on a windows box
[06:52] <palomer> hullo
[06:52] <SegFaultAX> liquid: i believe the truecrypt client for linux is command line only
[06:53] <liquid> SegFaultAX, It has a GUI, do you use it??
[06:53] <Robb_M> MTecknology: your question might be better suited in #supybot i think? or #ubuntu-ops? heck im not sure, but i really do not think this is the right place....
[06:53] <elpargo> liquid, according to this thread you just do it and it works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696461
[06:53] <MrPeepers310> hey, for some reason, firefox cannot load java applets. I tried reinstalling the plugin and that didn't work either
[06:54] <SegFaultAX> liquid: heh, i do everything from the command line
[06:54] <mudkip> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
[06:54] <liquid> SegFaultAX, Im  a new linux user and am still getting used to it
[06:54] <Robb_M> MrPeepers310: errors outputted?
[06:54] <billybigrigger> how do i change a proftpd's user's password? i've forgotten the password, i see the deamon runs as system user proftpd but i can't find any .conf files that show where users are stored in /etc/proftpd
[06:54] <MTecknology> Robb_M: that's why I didn't just ask... It can't be answered in #supybot because they don't deal with it and it's innapropriate for -ops
[06:54] <elpargo> mudkip, I'm sorry to hear that.
[06:54] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX any chance I can fix my error with the command line?
[06:54] <MrPeepers310> Robb_M: through the firefox error consol?
[06:54] <jim_p> WebDawg: sorry mate, the live cd does not have the option for text install :(
[06:54] <billybigrigger> so changing the system user proftpd isnt going to change billysftp's password, where do i do this
[06:55] <elpargo> MTecknology, and -dev?
[06:55] <bazhang_> mudkip, please stop
[06:55] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: whats up?
[06:55] <mudkip> bazhang_: stop what?
[06:55] <elpargo> jim_p, did you fix the flash issue?
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  hey:) I think i broke it by deleting /home/User/tmp, now I cant login.
[06:56] <jim_p> elpargo: no :(
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  it says 'your last session lasted less than 10 seconds...'. I tried mkdir tmp but am not sure if i got the permissions right.
[06:56] <johnsons> DCC SEND "startkeylog" 0 0 0
[06:56] <Robb_M> great :(
[06:56] <anastya> hjghgdhkAGKDHA
[06:57] <jim_p> elpargo: any idea i can try?
[06:57] <bazhang_> !en | anastya
[06:57] <MrPeepers310> Robb_M: no no errors from the error consol
[06:57] <elpargo> jim_p, are you positive the .bin file didn't install? maybe you have two copies of it.
[06:58] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: it seems extremely unlikely that deleting anything in the home filesystem would break your account
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: oh ok.
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i only discovered it when i restarted ...
[06:58] <jim_p> elpargo: i ctrl+c on it since it could not find the dir
[06:58] <elpargo> jim_p, did you try with two non-root users? it may also be an issue with the profile.
[06:58] <MTecknology> elpargo: any other suggestions for where to go?
[06:59] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: is it only on a specific account?
[06:59] <jim_p> elpargo: i only have 1 user here!
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i only have one.
[06:59] <elpargo> jim_p, try this, close all firefox windows, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-back, then run firefox in the shell.
[07:00] <MrPeepers310> hey, for some reason, firefox cannot load java applets. I tried reinstalling the plugin and that didn't work either
[07:00] <elpargo> MTecknology, no sorry. I know very little about ubuntu-etiquete.
[07:00] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: are you logging in through gnome/kde/etc. or the terminal
[07:00] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: usually Gnome
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: want me to tell you exactly what it says?
[07:01] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, are you using sun's JVM?
[07:01] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: have you tried logging in at the command line
[07:01] <SegFaultAX> !pastebin | nicholaspaul
[07:01] <Robb_M> MrPeepers310: thats kinda....odd
[07:01] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: paste it for me
[07:01] <sp00n> OMG!
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: yea, the Safe mode
[07:01] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: i think so is that the gcj plugin?
[07:01] <sp00n> my computer just ran out of space compiling! after 8 hours!
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: id have to type...i'm at a difft machine :)
[07:02] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: does it boot up into root when you boot into runlevel s?
[07:02] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, no. you need to migrate to java-sun.
[07:02] <sp00n> omg that sucks SOOO bad
[07:02] <elpargo> !java
[07:02] <bazhang_> !ot | sp00n
[07:03] <bazhang_> sp00n, please take chat elsewhere
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i dont know what runlevel s is :D
[07:03] <elpargo> !java | MrPeepers310
[07:03] <daikirai> hi, i don't have an external tools dir in my tools folder on my gedit
[07:03] <daikirai> why is this
[07:03] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: single ("safe" mode)
[07:03] <sp00n> sry
[07:03] <liquid> SegFaultAX, If somebody was to get the harddrive from my lappy would they be able to plug it into a computer and read the info??? considering that most people use windows?
[07:03] <WIGGMPk> I am having an issue with my laptop and I cant figure it out. Every time I login (before the Compiz splash screen) before everything gets fully loaded. It haults, no error's, just freezes.. Mouse and Keyboard are poofed.. But my caps lock light keeps blinking on/off. Any thoughts?
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i'll just finish typing this error then i'll try
[07:04] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: ya i've already done that
[07:04] <liquid> SegFaultAX, Not like I have a ton of stuff on my lappy, and nothing is really secret
[07:04] <SegFaultAX> liquid: thats a subjective question for 2 reasons. 1) if it were me, yes. 2) it depends on the fs your using
[07:04] <MrPeepers310> but there is a plugin for firefox to run java applets and it's gcj as well as icedtea and neither of them work
[07:05] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, what does java -version says?
[07:05] <Xpistos> Anyone know how to RDP into a linux server from a linux desktop/
[07:05] <liquid> SegFaultAX, Lol I love it, okay for a semi/non computer nerd, who uses windows and really doesnt know anything about it
[07:05] <MrPeepers310> java 6
[07:05] <Fynder> How can I manually set the time to match a web time-server from the command line, and how do I unset the 'system clock is set to UTC" setting?
[07:05] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, no gcj is GNU java compiler.
[07:05] <liquid> SegFaultAX, And how would I find out what FS im using
[07:05] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: ok but there is a gcj web plugin
[07:06] <SegFaultAX> liquid: if you want a place to store encrypted data, truecrypt is a complicated option
[07:06] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: that ubuntu wants you to install when you dont have a java applet plugin
[07:06] <SegFaultAX> liquid: you might consider using encfs via fuse
[07:06] <liquid> SegFaultAX, I think im not going to anymore pointless, but I was just wondering
[07:06] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, the package you need is sun-java6-plugin
[07:07] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, and get rid of the gcj stuff before installing that.
[07:07] <SegFaultAX> liquid: if its something your interested in it could be a nice way to get acquainted with filesystems and especially fuse
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  My error after attempting Gnome login: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63534/
[07:07] <daikirai> hi, i don't have an external tools dir in my tools folder on my gedit
[07:08] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: i'm not seeing the sun-java6-plugin package in the repository
[07:08] <elpargo> daikirai, make one?
[07:08] <liquid> SegFaultAX, I will for sure read up started on it, please tell me what fuse is so I can get
[07:08] <liquid> SegFaultAX, I will for sure read up on it, please tell me what fuse is so I can get started
[07:08] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: i see jdk
[07:08] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, which ubuntu version? and which are your repo?
[07:10] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: 8.04
[07:10] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: I have a lot of repos
[07:10] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, do you have multiverse?
[07:10] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: is that a repo?
[07:10] <elpargo> yes
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: Here is my error after attempting Gnome Failsafe login : http://paste.ubuntu.com/63535/
[07:11] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: do you have disk space available?
[07:11] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: hmmm not seeing it
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  i had about 20% free...
[07:11] <SegFaultAX> liquid: fuse is a service that allows you to create filesystems in userspace (something you would normally do as root)
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  Available : 1812088bytes
[07:12] <liquid> SegFaultAX, Thats great thank you for the info.. How long have you been using linux for?
[07:12] <frogscott> Help someone Mozilla crashes on any video played I have installed flash 10
[07:12] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: does it boot up in single user mode correctly?
[07:13] <nicholaspaul> just in Terminal FailSafe
[07:13] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: is that single user mode?!
[07:13] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: you could create a new account from the command line and attempt to boot into that
[07:14] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, make sure multiverse is in "Software Sources" because it exists http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sun-java6-plugin
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: how would i do that?
[07:14] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: that might facilitate recovering for primary account
[07:14] <liquid> Thanks all
[07:14] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: o ya there it is, i was looking at third party repos
[07:14] <mudkip> hi does anyone know if it's "an ubuntu install" or "a ubuntu install"
[07:15] <bazhang_> mudkip, an
[07:15] <bazhang_> mudkip, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <WIGGMPk> Question, I have kernel 2.6.24-21 installed but it locks up when I login (caps lock light blinks) Now im logged into kernel 2.6.24-19, I ran the update manager and there are updates. but its asking me to update to kernel 2.6.24-21. does it not see any updates done in the different image? im confused
[07:15] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, do you have proposed enabled?
[07:16] <paul68> !ot |mudkip
[07:16] <mudkip> hi
[07:16] <mudkip> paul68: shut up
[07:16] <bazhang_> !coc | mudkip
[07:16] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: only LTS, the updates are for the kernel I already have but its locking up my laptop so I booted the older one
[07:16] <paul68> !attitude |mudkip
[07:16] <mudkip> bazhang_: you too shut up
[07:16] <robb_m> !ettiquite | mudkip
[07:17] <hoberry> DCC SEND "hahahah" 0 0 0
[07:17] <paul68> !etiquete | mudkip
[07:17] <robb_m> too late paul, i couldnt find the right spelling, but either way :)
[07:17] <ackbahr> Hi folks! Can someone help me write a very short sheel script?
[07:17] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, iirc that later kernel is from proposed; that is a at your own risk type kernel
[07:18] <coloquialist1> I accidentally fat fingered the password for my default keyring. how do I reset this ?
[07:18] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: 2.6.24-21 is not from proposed
[07:18] <bazhang_> !info linux
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i cant make a user...when i typer 'useradd newone' it says 'useradd: unable to lock password file.
[07:19] <mudkip> does ne1 know where i can find ubuntu in icelandic
[07:19] <mudkip> or a channel for ubuntu in icelnd
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  so i tried Sudo .... 'configuartion error - unknown item FAIL DELAY
[07:19] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: try adduser
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  (except Ubuntu spelled correctly...)
[07:19] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: is it already in the synaptic package manager or do i need to put it in the third party one?
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  ok
[07:20] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: i only have (hardy-security, hardy-updates) selected along with LTS Releases Only..
[07:20] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, huh?
[07:20] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, I suggest you do the updates, and see if that helps
[07:20] <larsemil> how do i install gnome? i dont want to use the ubuntu-desktop as it pulls so much, just core gnome. gnome-core package does not work
[07:20] <mudkip> hi i need to get ubuntu support in icelandic is there a chanenl??
[07:20] <sleven> so I still dont know how to add a dir to my PATH!?
[07:20] <bazhang_> !irc | mudkip check the last link
[07:20] <paul68> !patience |mudkip
[07:20] <p3> p3
[07:20] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: my question is why is it asking me to update if I already have that image? I booted the older image but doesnt it see it or something?
[07:20] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: do i need to put in the multiverse repo myself or is just a little check box
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> nicholaspaul
[07:21] <SegFaultAX> sleven: what shell are you using?
[07:21] <mudkip> !shutup paul68
[07:21] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, could be a security fix or other; I am on ibex so cant tell you
[07:21] <bazhang_> mudkip, stop that
[07:21] <mudkip> !etiquette paul68
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  i get the same error with my new user...
[07:21] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, oh in the software sources, both work but use the checkbox.
[07:22] <nicholaspaul> !brain mudkip
[07:22] <paul68> bazhangf_ can you stop him please
[07:22] <bazhang_> paul68, he is gone
[07:22] <paul68> bazhang thanks
[07:22] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: another question sorta pretaining to this. When you have a newer image, and boot to an older image, shouldnt things be relativly the same. Not that its a big deal but my screenlets were all over the place, half on the widget layer, etc havent noticed anything else different yet
[07:22] <MrPeepers310> elpargo:  ya that's checked and i'm still not seeing sun-java6-plugin
[07:22] <sleven> segfault: the terminal that comed with ubuntu 8.04
[07:23] <robb_m> WIGGMPk: yeah they stay the same..only thing thats different is the kernel thats active
[07:23] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, depends; sometimes wifi is messed up newer kernels so some folks choose to boot the older ones until the bugs are worked out
[07:23] <Frogzoo> WIGGMPk: a kernel update is only going to fix kernel bugs, they're seldom visible to the user
[07:23] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, 1st close all synaptics, then click and hit close, it should update the repo list. then use synaptics search it IS there.
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  any ideas what might have caused this?
[07:24] <SegFaultAX> sleven: export "/path/to/add:$PATH"
[07:24] <WIGGMPk> Frogzoo, bazhang_, robb_m: so there could be a deeper under lying problem to the customizations made (ie: screenlet locations, current gtk theme, etc)
[07:25] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, could well be with fine tuning
[07:25] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: nothing comes to mind at the moment. but it sounds like gnomes configuration has been corrupted
[07:25] <robb_m> probably WIGGMPk
[07:25] <genesismachine> I've just installed 8.10 on a macbook (2,1) and the keyboard is all messed up. What used to be keys 108 and 116 are now something else - 108 is the down arrow, not sure about 116. I now have no down arrow button. However, I know that X is detecting it correctly since in the gdm login screen, the arrow works fine... So it's something in my user profile
[07:25] <genesismachine> Any ideas on what it is in my user profile that's messing things up?
[07:25] <bazhang_> #ubuntu+1 for that genesismachine
[07:25] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: ok tried that still nothing. just to make sure we're on the same page. I go to settings > repositories> click software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse) then hit reload
[07:26] <genesismachine> #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:26] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: unless you can tell me more about what might have caused the error
[07:26] <bazhang_> yup
[07:26] <frogscott> can anyone answer this? Mozilla crashes on any video played I have installed flash 10
[07:26] <robb_m> genesismachine: please type /join #ubuntu+1
[07:26] <bazhang_> frogscott, flash?
[07:26] <larsemil> how do i install gnome? i dont want to use the ubuntu-desktop as it pulls so much, just core gnome. gnome-core package does not work as it has no installation candidate
[07:26] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: do you have a ~.xmodmap ? or .xkeymap?
[07:26] <bazhang_> frogscott, try installing flashblock
[07:26] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  i'm trying to think ... all i can think of is removing ~/tmp.
[07:26] <frogscott> bazhang what is that?
[07:26] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: i dont tinker too much!
[07:26] <SegFaultAX> frogscott: flash is notoriously poor on linux, just fyi
[07:26] <genesismachine> I had a .xmodmap, but even if I change or delete its contents, it makes no difference
[07:26] <bazhang_> frogscott, a FF plugin
[07:27] <frogscott> but im trying to play like flv videos you tube videos
[07:27] <bazhang_> frogscott, that is what it is aimed at; it blocks them until you choose to play them
[07:27] <theo5> !etiquette |paul68
[07:27] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: after d/ling xmodmap, logout & back in
[07:28] <frogscott> bazhang_, ok let me see
[07:28] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, oh no, go System -> Administration -> software sources
[07:28] <drago1> i have the problem in booting.when os is selected from loader, error "ERROR :15  invalid press any key" occurs.how do i get rid of this problem?
[07:28] <paul68> Theo 5 do I know you?
[07:28] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: is it possible to fix X11 somehow from the terminal?
[07:28] <bazhang_> that was mudkip
[07:29] <extor> Am I the only person who thinks that the iptables TARGET should actually be called ACTION?
[07:29] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, you may need to uncheck it and check it again, so it will reload.
[07:29] <SegFaultAX> nicholaspaul: manually configuring x11 from the command line can be extremely difficult. even still it doesnt sound like x11 is throwing the error
[07:29] <paul68> bazhang_: still keeps sending msg to
[07:29] <Frogzoo> extor: sometimes a target isn't an action
[07:29] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: What do you mean downloading xmodmap?
[07:30] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: deleting
[07:30] <bazhang_> paul68, he is PM'ing you
[07:30] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: in kde?
[07:30] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX:  oh ok. Is copying my home folder to another drive and reinstalling a good idea?
[07:30] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: It's not a separate package now, it's installed with xserver-utils, which I'm not sure that I can delete...
[07:30] <paul68> bazhang_: he was as mudkip and theo5
[07:30] <bazhang_> paul68, thanks
[07:30] <extor> Frogzoo, but an ACTION is usually a VERB...DROPPING, ACCEPTING an REJECTING are verbs...not targets. Destinations can be targets
[07:31] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: I mean in your home directory - does ls  ~/.x* show anything?
[07:31] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: but even if I could delete it, I don't want to since I want to eventually get the right click mapped to the right apple key like it was before...
[07:31] <feng14> how do i install xface desktop?
[07:31] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, I don't use kde. did you try the unselect then select again?
[07:31] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: ya it didn't work
[07:31] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: oh, you mean delete the .xmodmap file? ok, will do
[07:31] <bazhang_> feng14, xubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <frogscott> bazhang_, that didnt do anything except temporarily block it..once i watch it does the same thing
[07:31] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: don't delete - just rename
[07:31] <sleven> SegFaultAX,  export "/usr/lib/ghc-6.8.2/lib/:$PATH" didnt work
[07:31] <feng14> bazhang_ yes,just sudo apt-get install?
[07:31] <sleven> : not a valid identifier
[07:32] <dian> efy imutz
[07:32] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: what's the exec for Software sources
[07:32] <bazhang_> feng14, yes
[07:32] <bazhang_> !en | dian
[07:32] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: Do I need to restart X, or can I just type in a command to update the settings?
[07:32] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: so i can just run it from cmd
[07:32] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, no clue. let me see.
[07:32] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: restart X
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> SegFaultAX: can you help me copy /home to another drive?
[07:32] <drago1> ﻿ i have the problem in booting.when os is selected from loader error occurs. i need to edit partition and then boot.everytime hav to do this.is thr any way to save this .......
[07:32] <Frogzoo> extor: sometimes targets are another set of rules
[07:33] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[07:33] <SegFaultAX> sleven: are you sure? type echo "$PATH"
[07:33] <gr3p> hi, does anybody know how to view the changes for each package that needs an update while doing a 'apt-get upgrade'?
[07:33] <sleven> yes not there
[07:33] <frogscott> bazhang_, could it be something in synaptic left over from libflash or flashplugin?
[07:33] <sleven> says not a valied identifier
[07:33] <SegFaultAX> sleven: did you close the terminal?
[07:33] <jim_p> elpargo: it worked !! i copied libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and it worked
[07:33] <bazhang_> frogscott, how did you install flash
[07:33] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: haha it's the same window for synaptic lol
[07:33] <bazhang_> frogscott, and which version of flash is it
[07:33] <SegFaultAX> sleven: if you want to make it permanent, you need to put it in your rc/profile
[07:34] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: Same thing as before
[07:34] <sleven> seg: ok how?
[07:34] <sleven> where is that?
[07:34] <frogscott> bazhang_,  I uninstalled flashplugin and then went to adobe to get 10 for Ubuntu
[07:34] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, ok then click unclick, you should see it downloading some files.
[07:34] <Sylent> what command could I use to change the name of all files in a folder so "%20" becomes " "
[07:34] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: dunno - try preferences -> keyboard layout
[07:34] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: and then under the Ubuntu software tab check and uncheck sotware restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
[07:35] <frogscott> bazhang_, I do not have flashplugin non-free installed but some of the libflash things are still there
[07:35] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: I've tried apple, apple laptop, apple laptop international, macbook/macbook pro and  all sorts of stuff, they all have the same results
[07:35] <SCCCwild_freeZz> hello
[07:35] <chilicheez> secuity question
[07:35] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, ehh no uncheck and check, it will only update if it detects changes.
[07:35] <bazhang_> frogscott, well since you went outside of the package manager there is no telling what conflicts there are
[07:35] <SCCCwild_freeZz> Русские есть?!
[07:35] <jimmydimmy> HET
[07:35] <bazhang_> !ru | SCCCwild_freeZz
[07:36] <SCCCwild_freeZz> =)
[07:36] <frogscott> bazhang_, sweet but this happened before that
[07:36] <jimmydimmy> :)
[07:36] <SegFaultAX> sleven: ~/.bashrc
[07:36] <SCCCwild_freeZz> дофигища же тут людей
[07:36] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: I'm going to try the other layouts again, brb
[07:36] <bazhang_> frogscott, so no way to tell what the conflicts are.
[07:36] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: did it and, nothing
[07:36] <chilicheez> can someone target an IP of a user running ubunto and redirect them to a server with malware installs?
[07:36] <MrPeepers310> any place i can just dl the package?
[07:36] <SCCCwild_freeZz> :-/
[07:37] <bazhang_> chilicheez, that is not the kind of question we answer here.
[07:37] <chilicheez> where should i ask?
[07:37] <frogscott> bazhang_, um can I just uninstall some things and reinstall everything?
[07:37] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, did you close it?
[07:37] <bazhang_> chilicheez, no idea. NOT here.
[07:37] <chilicheez> nice
[07:37] <chilicheez> real nice
[07:37] <bazhang_> frogscott, sure
[07:37] <MrPeepers310> ya
[07:37] <chilicheez> what use are u then
[07:37] <frogscott> bazhang_, lol
[07:37] <jimmydimmy> can any of you folks help a novice user get audio up and running? ubuntu recognizes my sound card and nothing's muted or turned down according to a visual volume monitor (it's active when i play audio files, just can't hear them)
[07:37] <WIGGMPk> A lot of my repositorys arent being found on sudo apt-get update, is anyone else having an issue?
[07:38] <SpinachHead> try alsamixer
[07:38] <ha6i> i installed boot loader after installing windows.but while booting error is shown...how to solve it.?
[07:38] <SegFaultAX> WIGGMPk: depending on the package, it can take a while to get into the respos.
[07:38] <jimmydimmy> Spinach: i saw that mentioned on a few sites but uh...what of it exactly? :)
[07:38] <bazhang_> WIGGMPk, pastebin sources.list on paste.ubuntu.com
[07:38] <SegFaultAX> WIGGMPk: sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and compile it yourself
[07:38] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: ya
[07:38] <chili> is there an ubuntu security channel
[07:38] <SpinachHead> open a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:39] <jimmydimmy> ok
[07:39] <bazhang_> chillitom, this is it
[07:39] <jimmydimmy> WHOA lol
[07:39] <bazhang_> oops sorry that was for chili
[07:39] <sleven> what is ~/? the master-parent dir? i cant find it there. should i create that file then? and names it .bashrc ?
[07:39] <SpinachHead> sometimes the Analog F is down all the way
[07:39] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, then the thing should be there, there is no way you are the only one missing that package.
[07:39] <Guest19781> tx baz
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> bazhang_: one sec, im trying again real quick
[07:40] <jimmydimmy> everything is up
[07:40] <SegFaultAX> sleven: ~/ refers to your home directory, .bashrc should already exist in your home directory
[07:40] <jimmydimmy> although i don't see this analogue F...
[07:40] <ha6i> Ii installed grub  after installing windows.but while booting error is shown...how to solve it.?
[07:40] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: No effect :( The apple laptop layouts are all the same
[07:40] <etrask> Can someone help me get the Live CD working? It doesn't want to boot for me
[07:41] <paranoidix> i was wondering about exploits in the upgrade/update process
[07:41] <SegFaultAX> etrask: try the alternative cd
[07:41] <bazhang_> etrask, did you md5 the iso, do the disk integrity check and burn at very low speed?
[07:41] <genesismachine> it's kind of amazing that with 1200+ people in this room, nobody has a macbook and has tried to install 8.10...
[07:41] <bazhang_> !md5 | etrask
[07:41] <etrask> bazhang_: I did that, plus I torrented it so the file itself was fine
[07:41] <paranoidix> are there any groups that can help me with information / protection
[07:41] <bazhang_> !ibex | genesismachine
[07:42] <sleven> it doesnt, in home there is just user and no files
[07:42] <nicholaspaul> genesismachine: i have a macbookpro, but just use VirtualMachine.
[07:42] <bazhang_> genesismachine, wrong channel for that
[07:42] <etrask> bazhang_: the disc itself is fine, I think it's a problem with my laptop
[07:42] <SegFaultAX> paranoidix: look into SE Linux or OpenBSD
[07:42] <SegFaultAX> sleven: try ls -laF
[07:42] <paranoidix> so - you would not recommend ubuntu
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> etrask: did you check to make sure the BIOS is set to boot from CD/DVD drive first?
[07:42] <SegFaultAX> sleven: its .bashrc, so its hidden
[07:42] <etrask> Yes
[07:42] <sleven> same result
[07:42] <etrask> I get into the boot screen
[07:42] <etrask> and I select "Start Ubuntu without changing your computer"
[07:43] <etrask> and hit enter, and it freezes right there
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> etrask: what kinda of laptop?
[07:43] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: dunno, maybe try google
[07:43] <etrask> Sony VGN-NF310E
[07:43] <etrask> VGN-NR310E
[07:43] <etrask> sorry
[07:43] <SegFaultAX> genesismachine: whats the problem?
[07:43] <sleven> SegFaultAX, there is only one home right?
[07:43] <genesismachine> Frogzoo: tried, with no success... This was my last-ditch attempt...
[07:43] <SegFaultAX> sleven: per user
[07:43] <bazhang_> paranoidix, if you have a specific question please ask it
[07:43] <gr3p> hi, does anybody know how to view the changes for each package that needs an update while doing a 'apt-get upgrade'?
[07:44] <Frogzoo> genesismachine: I don't believe it's only you with this problem
[07:44] <ha6i> can someone help me in correcting my booting problem,when i select option for ubuntu on loader,its displaying error....
[07:44] <elpargo> etrask, don't use enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <sleven> SegFaultAX, so i should cd into user?
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> etrask: try and pass these kernel options "noapic irqpoll noirqdebug" you have to hit F6 I think and it will bring up a line, at the end of it put that in (without the quotes) and see if it works
[07:44] <cakey> oh nice
[07:44] <SegFaultAX> sleven: just type cd, it will take you to home
[07:44] <sleven> i should be in /home/user not ~/home ?
[07:44] <cakey> CrossOver is free
[07:44] <SegFaultAX> sleven: correct
[07:44] <etrask> WIGGMPk: I'll try that, thanks. I'm on the laptop in question right now so I have to reboot for each trial solution :P
[07:45] <jimmydimmy> I turned up everything in alsamixer but still no audio...speakers are def in right port too :P argh
[07:45] <jimmydimmy> port/jack/whatever
[07:45] <anilomkar> Hi all, I bought Dell Studio 1535 Laptop and installed Ubuntu Hardy in that, but Wifi is not working in that. Could you guys please help me out..
[07:45] <bazhang_> genesismachine, #ubuntu+1 NOT here.
[07:45] <sleven> i see it now
[07:45] <genesismachine> bazhang_: will do, but nobody is paying attention on #ubuntu+1...
[07:45] <WIGGMPk> etrask: ok, its a long shot though, so dont get your hopes up
[07:45] <frogscott> bazhang_, if i want to remove pulse audio and i remove my desktop how do I put my desktop back after?
[07:46] <sleven> SegFaultAX, how do i open i then? and exactly what do i need to add?
[07:46] <genesismachine> SegFaultAX: follow me to #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <etrask> I swear I've used a Ubuntu live CD for this laptop before, I don't know why it doesn't work anymore (even went back and tried 7.10, which I think was the one that worked before)
[07:46] <bazhang_> frogscott, switch to alsa in sound preferences; that may be one source of trouble
[07:46] <bazhang_> frogscott, also set vlc or other apps to use alsa and not pulse
[07:46] <SegFaultAX> sleven: vim/nano/pico/emacs or whatever editor you use
[07:46] <sleven> ok i did id with gedit
[07:46] <frogscott> bazhang_, yes I think it is but how can I get rid of pulse?
[07:47] <ha6i> can anyone help me to reinstall grub after installing windows ....?
[07:47] <SegFaultAX> sleven: you could just add that export statement
[07:47] <bazhang_> !grub | ha6i
[07:47] <bazhang_> ha6i, read the restore grub link
[07:48] <anilomkar> can anyone help me out, my Wireless LAN is not working in my Dell Studio laptop
[07:48] <genesismachine> alright, well I'm out... too tired to continue debugging :(
[07:49] <etrask> Anyone else have a possible solution to my live CD woes while I wait for the newly-downloaded ISO to finish burning? :D
[07:49] <MrPeepers310> elpargo: well i can't get it working just yet but i will. the reason there is no sun-java6-plugin for me is because i am running the 64bit version
[07:50] <SpinachHead> etrask, how much RAM?
[07:50] <etrask> SpinachHead: 2 gigs
[07:50] <kc8pxy> ok, anyone here successfully playing oblivion on hardy?
[07:50] <riz0n> i have a question.. i am using postfix to deliver mail to linux users, and using mail directories. when a user receives a message it gets delivered to the proper folder however when user tries to access that folder to read messages (like using mail from shell) it says Permission denied
[07:50] <SpinachHead> oh, thats not the problem.  I couldnt get it to boot live on old laptop, but def not your problem
[07:51] <SegFaultAX> riz0n: did you check the file permissions?
[07:51] <elpargo> MrPeepers310, oh you forgot to mention that when you said ubuntu 8.04 :) it seems you have a big problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910447
[07:51] <etrask> Yeah, I'm stumped. I'm disappointed, all I have on this laptop is Vista, which blows
[07:51] <WIGGMPk> can someone pastebin there hardy /etc/apt/sources.list for some reason my list is completely out of order (I usually keep it commented and seperated)
[07:52] <SpinachHead> my sources is out of order too
[07:53] <frogscott> bazhang_, yes I think it is but how can I get rid of pulse?
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !easysource | WIGGMPk
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !easysources | WIGGMPk
[07:54] <Frogzoo> boo
[07:54] <WIGGMPk> Frogzoo =* I think I remember that site
[07:54] <Brian88> Hi, I want to install the latest KDE version (4.1) to some PCs (I have 2 PCs and 1 Laptop) but I don't have much bandwith (and I will not do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on 3 PCs). Can I have the *.deb file so a single download can install to 3 PCs?
[07:54] <Gnea> !sources | WIGGMPk
[07:55] <mntnpngn> just wondering if 8.10 will be released ontime
[07:55] <rski> Brian88: you can setup a local mirror and apt-get from that one
[07:55] <Gnea> mntnpngn: see what happens in a few days.
[07:55] <WIGGMPk> Gnea: thanks
[07:55] <Gnea> WIGGMPk: cheers
[07:56] <mntnpngn> I've been having some rough time with 8.04.1 lately
[07:56] <Gnea> mntnpngn: ubuntu has a historic record of releasing often, and on time.
[07:56] <mntnpngn> and I just found a big bug on 8.10 rc server
[07:57] <Gnea> mntnpngn: you should mention it in #ubuntu+1, we don't deal with 8.10 issues yet.
[07:57] <mntnpngn> ahh ok
[07:57] <mntnpngn> I did submit it to launchpad though...
[07:58] <Gnea> awesome
[07:58] <histo> God virtualbox is awesome this seamless mode rocks nowI can play poker again.
[07:58] <mntnpngn> maybe I should roll up my sleeve and fix the problem myself
[07:58] <Brian88> rski: How can I do that?
[07:59] <afancy> ﻿ Hi, How to start Ubuntu into console, without start x-windows?
[07:59] <Brian88> rski: How can I start the local mirror??
[07:59] <elpargo> !runlevels | afancy
[07:59] <elpargo> umm stupid bot.
[07:59] <Info73> elpargo - Excuse you but I'm doing what i was programmed to do, and saying "stupid bot", ETC. is rude and disrespectful. If you don't like it put me on ignore or leave the channel.
[08:00] <Gnea> wut
[08:00] <etrask> hahah, wow
[08:00] <afancy> ﻿elpargo: what do u mean
[08:00] <etrask> "touchy" bot
[08:00] <Gnea> Info73: hi.
[08:01] <afancy> ﻿elpargo: could u give me more details?
[08:01] <aepurniet> hello
[08:01] <Gnea> it only seems to respond to 'stupid bot'
[08:01] <Info73> Gnea - Excuse you but I'm doing what i was programmed to do, and saying "stupid bot", ETC. is rude and disrespectful. If you don't like it put me on ignore or leave the channel.
[08:01] <elpargo> LMAO @ Info73 comment :)
[08:01] <aepurniet> i was hoping someone could give me some pointers with dual booting osx and ubuntu
[08:01] <etrask> afancy: http://www.linux.com/articles/114107
[08:02] <Gnea> !dualboot | aepurniet
[08:02] <elpargo> afancy, do you want this for trouble shooting or normal use?
[08:02] <etrask> afancy: basically linux has a few different "run levels" you can configure it, and they'll start different services based on which one you pick. It's customizable, and that's about all I know about this :P
[08:02] <aepurniet> im having a problem installing ubuntu gives me a weird allocation size problem after choosing the language
[08:03] <aepurniet> then it says the code dealing with that is highly experimental and then stalls
[08:03] <riz0n> I am trying to convert dovecot from using password files to using the users/passwords built into Linux... what changes do I need to make to my dovecot.conf file in order to convert the configuration? thanks
[08:03] <aepurniet> i read a lot of these articles and none of them adress my specific issue
[08:03] <Gnea> riz0n: /join #dovecot
[08:04] <elpargo> etrask, that's basically it, you add scripts to each runlevel and then say boot me (or take me to runlevel X)
[08:04] <etrask> I've been out of the linux loop for a while, not that I was ever great at it. And now the live CD hates my laptop so I can't even join in the fun :(
[08:05] <Gnea> aepurniet: you should provide the detail from the problem - screenshots or take some pictures or just write it all down, then post it somewhere so that we can look at it. not all of us have macs so only a handful of people are going to be able to reliably help you, but getting that information will get your problem solved faster than not.
[08:05] <Gnea> etrask: what laptop?
[08:06] <etrask> Gnea: Sony VGN-NR310E with upgraded RAM
[08:06] <aepurniet> i dont think i can take a screenshot during the install
[08:06] <Gnea> aepurniet: digital cameras tend to work nicely
[08:06] <aepurniet> hmm
[08:06] <Gnea> !laptops
[08:07] <ashmeetsingh> hi all I have a problem with my sound driver
[08:07] <aepurniet> to give you more info about the problem, i installed osx first, then ubuntu
[08:07] <ashmeetsingh> can any one help
[08:07] <etrask> Gnea: ... I had no idea. I just bookmarked all of those, thank you :D
[08:07] <Gnea> !sound | ashmeetsingh
[08:07] <Brian88> Hi, I want to install the latest KDE version (4.1) to some PCs (I have 2 PCs and 1 Laptop) but I don't have much bandwith (and I will not do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on 3 PCs). Can I have the *.deb file so a single download can install to 3 PCs?
[08:07] <Brian88> Hi, I want to install the latest KDE version (4.1) to some PCs (I have 2 PCs and 1 Laptop) but I don't have much bandwith (and I will not do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on 3 PCs). Can I have the *.deb file so a single download can install to 3 PCs?
[08:08] <aepurniet> during the ubuntu install (after the language selection in the gui portion), when it starts the partitioner, there is a message saying "weird" block allocation size detected on /dev/smb (or something like that), and then stalls
[08:08] <favro> !aptoncd | Brian88
[08:08] <Gnea> etrask: looks like someone got opensuse working on one
[08:09] <Hen1> !beer
[08:09]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to Hen1
[08:09] <Len> !beer
[08:09]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to Len
[08:09] <Gnea> hrm
[08:09] <Hen1> hi
[08:09] <etrask> Gnea: But... but I want Xubuntu :P
[08:09]  * Len gives a cold beer to Hen1
[08:09] <sylock> hi here
[08:09] <Gnea> etrask: it should work then. what's it getting caught up on?
[08:09] <Hen1> using ubuntu 8.04 and my atheros wlan is connected, but I don't have internet
[08:10] <Gnea> !wifi | Hen1
[08:10] <Hen1> sudo iwconfig says I have connection with an access point
[08:10] <sylock> I have a problem with Intrepid Ibex : no floppy anymore
[08:10] <etrask> Gnea: the live CD itself won't boot up correctly. I get to the portion where I select "Start Linux" and hit enter, and it just freezes
[08:10] <Gnea> sylock: that's a feature, not a bug.
[08:10] <aepurniet> ahh, im getting how this goes
[08:11] <Hen1> I read the wireless documentation
[08:11] <Hen1> but I am a linux noob and I'm stuck
[08:11] <etrask> and unfortunately for now I can't use the alternate CD install -- just trying out Xubuntu and I'd have to do some hard drive mojo in Windows before I could install
[08:11] <sylock> Gnea, could you explain plz ?
[08:11] <Len> Hen1 pwnd by linux
[08:11] <Hen1> signal strength: 85%
[08:11] <Hen1> access point: blabla (connected)
[08:12] <LV> Henl: do you have nm-applet running?
[08:12] <Hen1> one moment
[08:13] <Gnea> etrask: hrm, you should be able to scrape all of the GUI stuff out of the startup and see the kernel message when the error occurs - just press F6 at the livecd boot prompt and backspace over 'quiet splash'
[08:13] <faria_khan> hi all
[08:13] <sylock> Gnea: floppies are not supported anymore ?
[08:13] <LV> Hen1, do you have a picture of a monitor with a little red x in it, or a set of bars, or something, up near the clock?
[08:13] <Gnea> sylock: who uses floppies? they die too quick.
[08:13] <faria_khan> any one can help me on squid ??
[08:13] <Gnea> faria_khan: the people in #squid can
[08:13] <etrask> Gnea: I tried that, and when I hit enter it still froze on that first screen (the one with all the boot options). Nothing else ever showed up :(
[08:14] <Hen1> no red x, exclamation mark
[08:14] <faria_khan> Gnea they are sleeping
[08:14] <Hen1> but I am on ethernet now, not wireless obviously
[08:14] <Gnea> faria_khan: then you must be patient.
[08:14] <Gnea> faria_khan: what's the problem anyway?
[08:14] <faria_khan> okey
[08:14] <Hen1> hm, I can't run nm-applet?
[08:14] <Hen1> just updatet to ubuntu 8.04
[08:14] <sylock> Gnea: Sure. But it can help. Thx for your help
[08:14] <LV> ok, if you right click that icon, you can see if Wireless is an option
[08:14] <Hen1> so I should have it, right?
[08:14] <Hen1> wireless is an option
[08:14] <LV> err Enable Wireless...
[08:14] <scientus> can i do a dpkg dump from 32 and install it on 64?
[08:15] <scientus> !dpkg
[08:15] <Gnea> sylock: i suppose... when did the error occur?
[08:15] <faria_khan> i just  need to how can and where can i put ip tables setting for transparent proxy
[08:15] <LV> Hen1, if it's enabled, then, LEFT click on the icon, and you should see a list of wireless networks
[08:15] <scientus> !packages
[08:15] <Hen1> got it
[08:15] <dannybuntu> hello everyone, i was just wondering why video playback on ubuntu is so slow specially if I am running multiple programs. I don't want to mention it, but in XP Media Player, video plays just fine even while I am running more than 5 applications at the same time. I have installed libdvdcss2 w32codecs too. :)
[08:15] <LV> Hen1, n joy
[08:16] <faria_khan> Gnea : i just  need to how can and where can i put ip tables setting for transparent proxy
[08:16] <LV> dannybuntu, different drivers.
[08:16] <Gnea> faria_khan: oh... iptables -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:3128  something like that
[08:16] <sylock> Gnea: I have no error messages. The /dev/fd0 don't exist, that's all.
[08:16] <scientus> how do i dump my packages and reinstall on a nw system
[08:17] <dannybuntu> LV i am using nvidia 96*  this is the newest one and most appropriate for my card
[08:17] <favro> !aptoncd | scientus
[08:17] <Gnea> sylock: and you have a real floppy drive? are you sure it's enabled in the bios and that the cable is securely connected?
[08:17] <etrask> Gon' give this one more shot, I'll be back (as everyone waits with breath held)
[08:17] <scientus> no, im going to 64 bit so i would want 64 bit versions
[08:17] <LV> dannybuntu, the nvidia windows driver is updated constantly by driver geeks.  Where does the linux driver come from?  how often is that updated?
[08:17] <sylock> Gnea: and I'm too young yet with linux to node it. It seems with dmesg that it is not recognize on the boot process.
[08:17] <scientus> i just want the package list
[08:18] <ArShAm> Hi all
[08:18] <sylock> Gnea: yeah, it is enabled in the bios. I booted on the floppy to be sure that it works well and this is the case.
[08:18] <Len> !sudobash
[08:18] <Len> !beer
[08:18]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to Len
[08:18] <favro> scientus: try   dpkg -l > dpkg.txt
[08:18] <Gnea> sylock: can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[08:18] <Len> !weed
[08:18] <nireesha> nir
[08:18] <ArShAm> I am about to upgrade with an alternate CD , and it is going to remove lots of my current packages
[08:18] <dannybuntu> LV: ummm. i am not sure but in windows, i didnt even upgrade my video drivers.
[08:18] <faria_khan> Gneaq yes but where to put this command ???
[08:18] <Gnea> !botabuse | Len
[08:18] <faria_khan> Gnea
[08:19] <ArShAm> I am a limitted network access and I cannot upgrade all of my packages , what to do?
[08:19] <sylock> Gnea : oki
[08:19] <rski> ArShAm: not upgrade or upgrade in small stages.
[08:19] <Hen2> I'm back
[08:20] <frogscott> ur back with different name
[08:20] <Hen2> My network card was recognized, but know when I want to configure ath0 (my wireless connection), I get: "the interface does not exist"
[08:20] <Hen2> lol, don't know why it's changed
[08:20] <ArShAm> rski, I have to upgrade , because I need to use the new kernel
[08:21] <rski> so get someone to download the .debs for you and install them locally
[08:21] <rski> that's the only way then if you can't do it yourself
[08:21] <ArShAm> rski,  is it possible to bypass the removes?
[08:21] <rski> removes?
[08:21] <ArShAm> yes
[08:21] <rski> removes?
[08:21] <Hen2> can anyone offer some wireless network help?
[08:21] <frogscott> Gnea I need to fix my flash settings for mozilla - mozilla crashes everytime I run a video on it
[08:22] <ArShAm> it says it needs to get 1400 MBs if I want all the updates
[08:22]  * Len gives Hen2 some wireless
[08:22] <rski> ok so? you just update the kernel then.
[08:22] <riz0n> how can i get the mail program (which runs from shell) to read from Maildir and not from the Mbox file?
[08:22] <sylock> Gnea: my dmesg http://pastebin.com/d432f8326
[08:22] <ArShAm> rski, the new kernel is not in hardy repos
[08:22] <rski> right so order 8.10 from shipit
[08:23] <rski> or download a new kernel from kernel.org and install it manually
[08:23] <Hen2> so I got driver support for atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards
[08:23] <rski> or get a friend to download it for you
[08:23] <ArShAm> ok , thanks anyway
[08:23] <rski> so there you go ArShAm
[08:23] <rski> loads of options
[08:23] <rski> just pick one
[08:23] <Hen2> But now when I want to configure ath0, I get an error saying 'the interface does not exist'
[08:24] <frogscott> Hen2, u need to find it
[08:24] <ArShAm> rski, thanks , bye
[08:24] <dannybuntu> LV: Anyway. may I ask if you think this has to do with linux and assigning processes?
[08:24] <Hen2> can you tell me how?
[08:24] <frogscott> Hen2, this is ur laptop right?
[08:25] <Hen2> yes
[08:25] <frogscott> Hen2, laptop is hub?
[08:25] <Hen2> no
[08:26] <frogscott> Hen2, what type of router do you have at hub?
[08:26] <Hen2> ath0 iwconfig recognizes an access point
[08:26] <Hen2> belkin
[08:26] <Hen2> belkin 54g
[08:26] <frogscott> Hen2, is it wireless? lol
[08:26] <Hen2> it's not the router
[08:26] <WIGGMPk> !sources.list.d
[08:27] <Hen2> I want to connect wireless yes
[08:27] <WIGGMPk> Anyone happen to have some info on sources.list.d and how it works?
[08:27] <Hen2> yes, it's wireless, 4 other people are connected to it now and using it
[08:27] <frogscott> Hen2, have you tried configuring the router properly according to belkin and made sure you have password?
[08:27] <Hen2> ssid: devlag
[08:27] <Hen2> access point: 00:11:50 etc. etc.
[08:27] <Hen2> everything is configured right
[08:28] <Hen2> it has to be something with my configuration on laptop
[08:28] <itai_michaelson> hi, what kind of upgrade is it from ibex beta to ibex stable, is it just some packages?
[08:28] <frogscott> Hen2, check if the card is supported on Ubuntu
[08:28] <SpinachHead> that belkin54g wont work right !
[08:28] <homerj> the kind of upgrade where it copies new files over old ones
[08:28] <Hen2> it does work for 4 other people
[08:29] <SpinachHead> everytime i connect to belkin54g from linux it crashes the cable modem
[08:29] <Baron> anyone know what CMS is used for ubuntu.com?
[08:29] <frogscott> Hen2, check their settings
[08:29] <Hen2> everything is the same
[08:29] <inktri> who here can help me with wireshark
[08:29] <Hen2> reboot it is
[08:29] <Hen2> oh wait
[08:29] <frogscott> Hen2, or is it just a matter of ur pc doesnt see the modem?
[08:29] <rski> inktri: man wireshark is a good start
[08:29] <Hen2> I cant find WICD
[08:30] <inktri> rski: i'm just wondering why i don't see all packets being sent in my wireless network
[08:30] <inktri> rskI: i only see packets i send out and packets sent to me. promiscuous mode is on
[08:30] <LV> dannybuntu, you were talking about video performance and multiple windows
[08:30] <LV> right?
[08:30] <dannybuntu> LV: correct :)
[08:30] <yodc> reCoy^, sup
[08:30] <LV> so I was saying, it's likely a driver issue with the stream decoding
[08:30] <Hen2> upgrading to 8.10 then
[08:30] <LV> eg it's more optimized or whatever on windows
[08:30] <LV> likely
[08:30] <seba_> hello
[08:30] <LV> just a guess tho
[08:30] <LV> but that's what it had to do with it
[08:30] <FloodBot1> LV: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <Hen2> lennart ga nou eens wat nuttigs doen
[08:31] <riz0n> is there a way to get mailx to read from Maildir (mail directory) instead of the single mail fil?
[08:31] <frogscott> Hen2, excuse me
[08:31] <reCoy^> yodc: hey!
[08:32] <Hen2> ?
[08:32] <Hen2> !beer
[08:32]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to Hen2
[08:32] <error404notfound> how can we check which version of a certain software exists in respositories without even downloading it?
[08:32] <etrask> But what kind of beer?
[08:32] <Hen2> hoegaarden
[08:32]  * etrask approves
[08:32] <frogscott> Hen2, Fat Tire
[08:32] <Hen2> fat tire?
[08:33] <etrask> ...surely you know fat tire
[08:33] <domi235> Amstel \o/
[08:33] <frogscott> Hen2, Colorado USA
[08:33] <dannybuntu> LV: Interesting insight. Thanks. However, I merely pointed out the video because that is where it is really more noticeable. In other instances such as firefox the performance is the same: ff3 slower on Ubuntu than ff3 on windows. I love Ubuntu, I hope they get to the bottom of this. I am reading some posts about ubuntu being slower than XP and I notice 2 schools of thought. Nevertheless, the problem is there for me personally. :)
[08:33] <riz0n> how do you get the cute hostmasks on here?
[08:33] <Hen2> colorado?
[08:33] <Hen2> you're american?
[08:33] <frogscott> si
[08:34] <Hen2> que pasa?
[08:34] <frogscott> nothing hambre hombre
[08:34] <Brian88_> hi, I w
[08:34] <ay^> je no habla español
[08:34] <Brian88_> I am going to install kubuntu-desktop package on my Ubuntu, is that KDE3 or KDE4???
[08:34] <etrask> I was operating under the assumption that Fat Tire is Belgian. Am I crazy?
[08:34] <Hen2> fat tire is beer?
[08:34] <frogscott> Nope muy pquito
[08:35] <frogscott> Hen2, yes and a very good one
[08:35] <henk_> hey hen2
[08:35] <Hen2> hoegaarden is belgium, and it's better
[08:35] <Dextorion> hey
[08:35] <frogscott> Hen2, u dont know that
[08:35] <etrask> Hen2 strong words since you've obviously never had fat tire :P
[08:35] <Hen2> true true hombre
[08:35] <Hen2> si si senor
[08:36] <frogscott> Hen2, but overall european beer is better
[08:36] <Hen2> i've had a flat tire
[08:36] <toddoon> hi, why when i run ediff-revision for example i have a gnome window open to select a file whereas the minibuffer?
[08:36] <henk_> you guys drink heineken over there, heineken sucks so you guys don't know shizzle
[08:36] <frogscott> ow wow
[08:36] <henk_> !beer
[08:36]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to henk_
[08:37] <Hen2> don't drink heineken too much
[08:37] <dannybuntu> LV: Anyway. may I ask if you !wine
[08:37] <dannybuntu> !wine
[08:37] <Hen2> !beer |henk
[08:37]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to |henk
[08:37] <SpinachHead> !vodka
[08:37] <Ohmu> why is heineken similar to a honeymoon on a yacht?
[08:37] <Hen2> !drugs
[08:37] <frogscott> !slap |henk
[08:37]  * cosmo_ slaps frogscott around the head with :frogscott!n=Scott@c-71-196-255-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #ubuntu :-!slap |henk.
[08:37] <dannybuntu> lol
[08:38] <frogscott> wow that felt good
[08:38]  * henk_ slaps Hen2 with a large trout!
[08:38] <Hen2> because it isn't
[08:38] <Hen2> nice slap
[08:38] <Hen2> que pasa?
[08:38] <frogscott> Beer slapper!
[08:38] <Hen2> colorado ftl!
[08:39] <etrask> Nit a mention of linux in sight on my screen.
[08:39] <etrask> Not*
[08:39] <frogscott> Linux is excellent
[08:39] <Hen2> windows is exxxcceellent
[08:39] <etrask> I still can't use the live CD
[08:39] <etrask> I'm beginning to think it just hates me
[08:40] <sylock> Gnea: did you found something in my dmesg ?
[08:40] <frogscott> no one here has what it takes to help me
[08:40] <Hen2> !beer |frogscott
[08:40]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to |frogscott
[08:40] <Hen2> that'll help
[08:40] <frogscott> well that helped
[08:40] <etrask> That's your answer to everything!
[08:41] <frogscott> study my dear etrask
[08:41] <etrask> Oh no, I love beer, it just doesn't sem to help my current situation
[08:41] <Hen2> oke
[08:41] <Hen2> capital of germany?
[08:42] <Hen2> anyone?
[08:42] <frogscott> Bonn?
[08:42] <dannybuntu> Berlin
[08:42] <Hen2> fail frogscott, no beer today
[08:42] <frogscott> shizza
[08:42] <Hen2> capital of holland?
[08:42] <etrask> Amsterdam?
[08:42] <frogscott> Amster?
[08:42] <Hen2> yes
[08:42] <Hen2> !beer |etrask
[08:42]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to |etrask
[08:42] <Hen2> !wireless |henk
[08:43] <frogscott> excuse me pal I got it first
[08:43] <Hen2> ﻿(09:42:37 AM) etrask: Amsterdam?
[08:43] <Hen2> (09:42:37 AM) frogscott: Amster
[08:43] <etrask> not on my scree you didn't
[08:43] <Hen2> no you didn't
[08:43] <Hen2> but anyway
[08:43] <frogscott> lol like i meant amster
[08:43] <Hen2> first president of america?
[08:43] <frogscott> I abbreviated
[08:43] <frogscott> Washington
[08:43] <etrask> jeez
[08:43] <Hen2> !beer |frogscott
[08:43]  * Info73 gives a cold beer to |frogscott
[08:43] <etrask> So... anyone know why the live CD for Ubuntu doesn't want to work for me?
[08:44] <Hen2> no-one wants to work for you
[08:44] <frogscott> yes etrask
[08:44] <zaggynl> My psysich powers are failing me, I'm afraid you're going to have to explain the problem to me etrask :(
[08:44] <dannybuntu> etrask: did you check the CD if its md5sum is good?
[08:44] <frogscott> no he has another os on there
[08:44] <frogscott> and it is causing space problems
[08:44] <etrask> The CD integrity is fine, it boots up, but when I pick "Start ubuntu" it just freezes
[08:44] <dannybuntu> strange...
[08:45] <frogscott> partition etrask
[08:45] <etrask> I'm not trying to install right now
[08:45] <Hen2> any tips for a linux noob?
[08:45] <Ganandorf> hi guys i am having some trouble with the nvidia glx new driver every time i install it via synaptic my screen resolution gets messed up when i choose extra in visual effects it gets really low
[08:45] <frogscott> yes learn more
[08:45] <Hen2> the terminal is a strange thing
[08:46] <drago1> how to know on which partion is my windows installed... can someone tell the command...
[08:46] <frogscott> Ganandorf, ok ganan go get Envy NG
[08:46] <alex____> hi. I have an off topic question... Can someone point me towards a great domain name register ? or recommended reading on domain name registration and later hosting?
[08:46] <Ganandorf> also when i install in via enable hard ware drivers resolution gets low again what is the correct way to install
[08:46] <frogscott> Ganandorf, I just told you
[08:46] <Ganandorf> frogscott:  envy ng is that for nvidia
[08:46] <frogscott> yes
[08:47] <Ganandorf> ok cool thanks
[08:47] <frogscott> it is an Ubuntu program
[08:47] <alex____> ganandorg "apt-get install envy-ng"
[08:47] <frogscott> well third party
[08:47] <alex____> its in the repos
[08:47] <Ganandorf> but why is teh nvidia driver giving probs like that
[08:47] <ghaleb> hello, how can I join tar and split in one command ? I used this command but it's not working  tar -cvf data.tar.gz /data/sw | split -b4000m - data.tar.gz
[08:47] <alex____> you may need to edit xorg.conf ...
[08:48] <alex____> or try nvidia-settings-manager
[08:48] <alex____> but ry another driver first ... envy-ng is a big set of scripts to install drivers
[08:48] <etrask> So no ideas why the live CD just freezes on me?
[08:48] <frogscott> first get the proper drivers from Envy get Envy in Synatic Manager
[08:48] <alex____> etrask: too little ram
[08:48] <etrask> alex____: I've got 2 gigs though :(
[08:48] <dannybuntu> Ganandorf: In System > Administration > Nvidia X Server Settings - you can change the resolution to what you like
[08:49] <frogscott> etrask, bad copy?
[08:49] <GibbaTheHutt> where does it freeze ?
[08:49] <ha6i> how to know the partition on which windows installed.../
[08:49] <alex____> etrask: hmm... burn it again on slow speeds?
[08:49] <etrask> I've downloaded two different images (Ubuntu and Xubuntu live discs) and burned it about 10-15 times now, they all get the same problem :(
[08:49] <ziroday> ha6i: if you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l we will tell you  :)
[08:49] <etrask> GibbaTheHutt: it freezes right after hitting enter for "Start ubuntu"
[08:49] <alex____> ha6i: open gparted ('gksu gparted') and find the ntfs partition.
[08:49] <frogscott> ah ok so it isnt the disk or the ram
[08:50] <dannybuntu> ha6i: Or, to check you have to look at the partitition and see which one has the Windows folder :)
[08:50] <ziroday> etrask: are there any error messages at all?
[08:50] <GibbaTheHutt> etrask, could be a few things, I have to add irqpoll to my boot options in grub though to stop mine hanging
[08:50] <GibbaTheHutt> maybe hit alt-f2 when its booting
[08:50] <alex____> etrask: hard lockups can be real hardware problems? but you could try an alternate CD for install
[08:51] <romain_> #server uni-irc.net
[08:51] <Ganandorf> frogscott:  i am seeing a bunch of stuff with envy included in the names like envyng core ,envyng -gtk, nvidia-glx-envy which  is the exact oen i need
[08:51] <etrask> ziroday: there are no messages at all, it just freezes right on the list of boot options. GibbaTheHutt: i tried irqpoll, sadly still nothing. Alex____: ... I don't want hardware problems :(
[08:51] <frogscott> Ganandorf, I know sweet isnt it?
[08:52] <SuperATP> does anyone know how to set the bitdepth in x11vnc when starting it ??
[08:52] <alex____> ganan: envyng
[08:52] <alex____> prolly glx
[08:52] <ha6i> ziroday:http://paste.ubuntu.com/63548/ i need this to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst...
[08:52] <ziroday> etrask: can you remove the splash and/or quiet option from the boot options and see if there are any error messages
[08:52] <frogscott> Ganandorf, oh i see let me look one sec
[08:53] <etrask> ziroday: Tried that too! Right after I hit enter the DVD drive makes a noise like it's about to read the disc, then nothing happens at all. Not even any console messages. I tried starting from the console too, and it just froze on "Booting..."
[08:53] <ziroday> ha6i: you have two windows partitions, which hardrive is windows on?
[08:53] <alex____> ha6i: sdb1 is obviously where windows is
[08:54] <alex____> oops or hda5
[08:54] <ziroday> etrask: okay, you can try a variety of boot options like acpi=off, noapic etc...to see if you can get it to boot. Other than that I have no clue :(
[08:54] <ha6i> alex____: then what should i use in editing ﻿/boot/grub/menu.lst...
[08:54] <ziroday> alex____: and what about the NTFS partition in sda5?
[08:54] <ljsoftnet> how can i play quicktime videos in http://www.apple.com/trailers/?
[08:55] <alex____> what do you want to do?
[08:55] <frogscott> Ganandorf, http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[08:55] <etrask> ah... well thanks for the help guys. If I had to guess I'd say it's the disc drive. Cheap piece of crap :(
[08:55] <ziroday> !quicktime | ljsoftnet
[08:55] <alex____> ziroday: see above! =)
[08:55] <Ganandorf> frogscott:  thanks
[08:55] <ziroday> alex____: oops missed that line
[08:56] <GibbaTheHutt> etrask, how are you burning the livecds ?
[08:56] <alex____> ha6i: what are you rying to do?
[08:56] <ziroday> ha6i: anyway, you have two ntfs partitions on two different harddrives. Which harddrive the 80GB one or the 40GB one did you install windows on?
[08:56] <GibbaTheHutt> and have you removed quiet from the boot options to let it tell you as much as possible
[08:56] <frogscott> Ganandorf, no problem
[08:57] <ha6i> alex____:when i try to boot linux or windows an error is shown... i have to edit at boot ,root and then boot.even then windows is not booting...
[08:58] <lonran> what program can i use to configure dual monitors with an ATI card?
[08:58] <SpinachHead> when are wireless cards going to include linux drivers?
[08:58] <alex____> sounds like a grub error
[08:58] <rski> SpinachHead: when they want too.
[08:58] <alex____> you could pastebin you /boot/grub.menu.list for us to look at
[08:58] <ha6i> )alex____: how do i solve it...
[08:59] <ziroday> lonran: you can try the utility in System > Administration > Screen Resolution
[09:00] <ha6i> alex____:http://paste.ubuntu.com/63550/
[09:00] <SpinachHead> do bill and steve give them kickbacks ?
[09:00] <ziroday> SpinachHead: you can talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[09:01] <alex____> ha6i where did you install linux?
[09:02] <ha6i> alex____:sdb2
[09:02] <murlox> is it possible to print the individual chart in gnumeric by selecting it (excel has the capability)?
[09:03] <alex____> grub looks fine.  numbering for grub is 1 less than for fdisk (hda1 = hd0,0) so it should be fine. what is your error when starting up?
[09:03] <alex____> murlox: you can save it as an image? and print that
[09:04] <ha6i> alex____: some error wit error:no "press any key..."
[09:05] <alex____> if you are keen, you could add an entry to grub like the windows one (at the bottom) corresponding to the other NTFS partition, the ones with the boot flag in your pasted output, see if windows will boot from them?
[09:05] <dak> how do you get rid of the boot screen that shows the ubuntu logo so you see the old startup
[09:06] <Symbios> Which user account is running Apache web server [${APACHE_RUN_USER}] ?
[09:06] <Symbios> *** ERROR: account ${APACHE_RUN_USER} not found in system table /etc/passwd !
[09:06] <Symbios> Which user account is running Apache web server [${APACHE_RUN_USER}] ?
[09:06] <Co_idaman-wanita> ?????????????????
[09:06] <Symbios> why i can't install?
[09:06] <sims1> sup all
[09:06] <rski> install what and how?
[09:06] <Co_idaman-wanita> ????????????????????
[09:06] <Symbios> ocs-inventory
[09:06] <sims1> anyone idea how i can use the nunchuk buttons and analog stick as mouse?
[09:07] <sims1> wminput works, i just dont get the config
[09:07] <murlox> alex____: well, it looks kinda ugly as an image; I prefer to print it normally. Thanks for the response.
[09:07] <iwan> ?????????????
[09:07] <sims1> ??????
[09:07] <sims1> :)
[09:07] <alex____> =)
[09:08] <iwan> 00000000000000
[09:08] <rski> Symbios: is it in ubuntu?
[09:08] <ha6i> alex____: trying.... i will login afterwards
[09:08] <dannybuntu> can anyone tell me of a cool looking alternative to gnome aside from kde and xfce?
[09:08] <dak> how do you get rid of the boot screen that shows the ubuntu logo so you see the old startup
[09:08] <dak> so its like debian
[09:09] <rski> dannybuntu: e17
[09:09] <Symbios> rski, In attempt to establish ocs-nventory I have such problem, учентая to wash down apache (www-data) is included
[09:09] <babo> guys, the skype package is broken ...
[09:09] <babo> http://pastebin.com/m1d43f980
[09:09] <xHemlock> I hate polythiophene
[09:09] <Symbios> rski, ubuntu 8.04
[09:09] <iwan> Lololololololol
[09:09] <goldmetal> i am using lastest vlc, how come dvd menu dont' work?
[09:09] <iwan> woeYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[09:09] <rski> was that some russian?
[09:10] <rski> i do not understans
[09:10] <iwan> peakkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:10] <dannybuntu> rski: enlightenment? i am running an old pentium 3 pc. would that be faster?
[09:10] <iwan> ?????????????????
[09:11] <lamego> dannybuntu, fluxbuntu
[09:11] <rski> that would be insanley faster yes dannybuntu
[09:11] <Prometheus7777> hi, have ubuntu intrepid rc and i use Quanta in gnome and i can't find kio package that allow me to use sftp in quanta? Which package should i install?
[09:11] <lamego> !intrepid | Prometheus7777
[09:11] <kc8pxy> anyone here familiar iwth wine/quartz on ubuntu?
[09:11] <dannybuntu> rski: ok thanks i will apt-get now :)
[09:11] <rski> dannybuntu: it's not in apt-get
[09:11] <rski> e16 might be thou.
[09:12] <ziroday> kc8pxy: what is your question?
[09:13] <histo> !anyone | kc8pxy
[09:13] <dannybuntu> rski: ok googling it now
[09:14] <ljsoftnet> how can i play quicktime videos in http://www.apple.com/trailers/? using firefox
[09:14] <kc8pxy> ziroday:  i am trying to play oblivion, but every time i play it, i get no sound. not in the menu, or in the engine. but movies play fine. when the parts that doint play sound begin, i get a error about quartz fumbling an interface it can't find.
[09:14] <ziroday> kc8pxy: you can ask in #winehq
[09:14] <dannybuntu> rski: ah but it is >> deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
[09:14] <rski> using edgy? :)
[09:14] <dannybuntu> rski: can i use that in hardy?
[09:15] <rski> i have no idea
[09:15] <kc8pxy> ziroday:  everyone seems to be afk there.  I'm running wine on ubuntu, so this seemed the next best place.
[09:15] <rski> i have never used a repo for e17
[09:15] <rski> only built it from source
[09:15] <dobblego> is there a tower defense game in the repositories?
[09:15] <dannybuntu> rski: ok googling again :)
[09:16] <dannybuntu> rski: ah here it is deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu hardy e17 :) thanks
[09:16] <alex____> ubuntu folks dont build form source!
[09:17] <rski> alex____: all software is not in apt-get
[09:17] <dannybuntu> alex___: very true. tried that once. took several hours
[09:17] <alex____> DOBBLEGO: TRY DESKTOP TOWER DEFENCE (Flash game
[09:17] <alex____> *ssorry about shouting
[09:17] <lamego> !caps | alex____
[09:17] <dannybuntu> alex____: in fact it took 2 hours to build pidgin from source...
[09:17] <alex____> why do it then?
[09:18] <alex____> =)
[09:18] <alex____> open office takes something like 8!
[09:18] <erUSUL> kc8pxy: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=3150
[09:18] <alex____> gee .. i didn't think pidgin was that big
[09:18] <dannybuntu> alex___: my pc is old...
[09:18] <seekingtruth> whats the CLI command to update Ubuntu with all the latest files and security files etc?  apt-get update && upgrade ?
[09:19] <alex____> i see!
[09:19] <petererer> how old is old these days? heh
[09:19] <seekingtruth> dannybuntu: so am I :)
[09:19] <alex____> && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:19] <dannybuntu> petererer: i bought my pc in 19999
[09:19] <dannybuntu> :)
[09:19] <seekingtruth> alex whats diff between  apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:20] <alex____> gee. my little second hand ibook g4 isn't that old!
[09:20] <TiMiDo> seekingtruth, apt-get upgrade or update?
[09:20] <seekingtruth> isnt dist-upgrade  when u want to upgrade from one version to another?
[09:20] <alex____> dist-upgrade does all the kernel and imprtant system stuff. Right folks?
[09:20] <seekingtruth> TiMiDo:  whats the CLI command to update Ubuntu with all the latest files and security files etc?  apt-get update && upgrade ?
[09:20] <dannybuntu> right
[09:20] <alex____> its not just for version changes
[09:20] <TiMiDo> seekingtruth, not really when you update you're packages must like it
[09:20] <alex____> itsa debian thing
[09:21] <seekingtruth> TiMiDo: whats diff between  apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:21] <TiMiDo> seekingtruth, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:21] <petererer> dist- will install new packages if necessary
[09:21] <seekingtruth> and what does apt-get upgrade do then?
[09:21] <TiMiDo> seekingtruth, update you're mirrors
[09:21] <[tla]> no doubt i am the millionth person to ask this but here goes ... when trying to upgrade to intrepid from hardy why is download of the *ntfs-3g* files returning "forbidden"?  Thx
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:22] <alex____> it just isn't quite as deep and thorough...
[09:22] <petererer> it will upgrade existing packages
[09:22] <dannybuntu> yo yo yo ActionParsnip
[09:22] <petererer> but if existing packages have new dependencies and require a new package to be installed, dist-upgrade must be used
[09:22] <alex____> tla: its a bug. wait for some time before trying again... up to a week.
[09:22] <seekingtruth> what does this do.. apt-get -u dist-upgrade ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | [tla]
[09:22] <alex____> petererer: ah! i see!
[09:22] <dannybuntu> 3 days to go!
[09:23] <redeemed_> 2 days isn't it?
[09:23] <dannybuntu> ummm yeah 2 days :)
[09:23] <dustofdust> hallo
[09:23] <dannybuntu> hallo dust
[09:23] <alex____> tla: if you need to upgrade, uninstall ntfs-3g first.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> seekingtruth: -u == Show upgraded packages; Print out a list of all packages that are to be upgraded. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Show-Upgraded.
[09:23] <redeemed_> ello ello
[09:23] <seekingtruth> alex what does this do.. apt-get -u dist-upgrade ?
[09:23] <[tla]> ty all
[09:23] <seekingtruth> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> seekingtruth: man apt-get ;)
[09:24] <TiMiDo> seekingtruth, man apt
[09:24] <werdnus> What's the default font path?
[09:24] <seekingtruth> ActionParsnip: i prefer female
[09:24] <damaltor> hello everybody. i have a small problem: i have a "server" computer running 24h in my house. on this computer, there is about 100 GB of music. as i love amaroK, i mounted the 100 gb via NFS to the computer i'm usually sitting on. it works indeed, i have read and write access without any problems. mounting an NFS is NOT the problem. the problem is, amarok uses to keep the collection of music nice and tidy. but even when i click on a ...
[09:24] <seekingtruth> female apt ?
[09:24] <dannybuntu> lol
[09:24] <damaltor> ... song to play it, it will update the score of the song by 1. copying it over the network 2. changig the score 3. copying it back over the network 4. refreshing the whole database. refreshing the whole db takes about half an hour via network. how can i speed this up? is there an alternative?
[09:24] <seekingtruth> :)
[09:24] <ay^> when is intrepid final released?
[09:24] <alex____> seekingtruth: yes. read to man pages. ubuntu has even moved them to HTML!!
[09:24] <ay^> today?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> TiMiDo: apt-get is the command
[09:24] <alex____> man aptitude
[09:24] <seekingtruth> ok cheers big ears :)
[09:24] <alex____> oh and try apt-get moo
[09:24] <alex____> or aptitude moo !!!
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> alex____: then apt-get moo -vv
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> alex____: then apt-get moo -vvv
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> alex____: and so on
[09:25] <alex____> =)
[09:25] <dustofdust> i have a problem with 8.10rc, i have a msi kt3 with geforce2mx and a crt monitor which can do 1280*1024 @100hz. at install i get 1920 or so, i dont get an option with 1280*1024@100hz
[09:25] <nickbooker> I understand acpi-support is now deprecated.  I've got a laptop here whose wireless doesn't come back after resume so where should I put the runes to re-enable it?
[09:25] <nickbooker> (intrepid)
[09:25] <click170> damaltor: Run amarok on the server and forward the x window to your local machine?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | dustofdust
[09:26] <alex____> oh i thought aptitude had the cow ?
[09:26] <damaltor> click170: no x on the server
[09:26] <puff> I'm updating an old system for the openssl issues.  Besides installing the new openssl and libssl packages, what do I need to do to make sure the ssh server has new keys?
[09:26] <alex____> err the snake eating the thing ?
[09:26] <click170> damaltor: gigabit?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> alex____: yeah
[09:26] <alex____> apt-get moo
[09:26] <alex____> aptitude -v moo
[09:26] <damaltor> click170: nice idea =) but hard to put on a notebook
[09:27] <damaltor> click170: do you know wich db system is the fastest/easiest? (sqlite or mysql)
[09:27] <click170> damaltor: I'm no expert there
[09:27] <JonRob> hi, has anyone else here encountered totem crashing when going to full screen on 8.10?
[09:27] <damaltor> click170: ah ok
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> click170: just use xul remote
[09:27] <JonRob> i suspect compiz, but i'm new to ubuntu and don't know where to switch it off
[09:27] <alex____> i reckkon mysql, but I'm no expert either
[09:27] <zeno_> flash sound isnt working
[09:28] <zeno_> firefox, flash 10
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> click170: you can use xul to control the system remotely via firefox
[09:28] <puff> JonRob: System/Preferences/Appearance
[09:28] <JonRob> puff - awesome, thanks
[09:28] <zeno_> it worked before now, and sound is ok in other apps
[09:28] <click170> damaltor: there you go - ActionParsnip
[09:28] <JackWinter_> oops a game changed resolution, what are the hotkeys to change res ?
[09:28] <alex____> jonrow. try avg for video playing. to switch off compiz use "metacity --replace" and to turn it back on "compiz --replace"
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: websearch for amarok xul remote
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you can then control it with a firefox plugin
[09:29] <puff> damaltor:  For what purpose?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: its the only reason i sue firefox
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> *use
[09:29] <puff> damaltor: Generally I'd suggest mysql is probably more bang for your buck.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> zeno_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[09:30] <damaltor> ActionParsnip, puff, click170: i have no x on the server, so i dont have any amarok to remote-control. i have amarok running locally, and the music on my local server. but it is to slow, updating the db takes 30 mins and more
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> puff: both are free ;)
[09:30] <alex____> i reckon use a gui to manipulate mysql too, command line is too much for me! mysql seems really complex
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you could run mpd on the remote system and control via web interface
[09:30] <damaltor> alex____: mysql is the worst interface ever. but with a nce qui its no problem
[09:30] <puff> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but his time isn't :-).
[09:30] <dannybuntu> i was just wondering why video playback on ubuntu is so slow  specially if I am running multiple programs.  I don't want to mention it, but  in XP Media Player, video plays just fine even while I am running more than  5  applications at the same time. I have installed libdvdcss2 w32codecs too.  :)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> puff: hence the ;)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !mpd | damaltor
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !info mpd
[09:31] <litb> hi all
[09:31] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: so there is no real possibility to use my beloved amarok, no?
[09:31] <alex____> i love mpd
[09:31] <alex____> and sonata
[09:31] <alex____> they together are great!
[09:31] <click170> damaltor: does it run from command line, as in without the X frontend?
[09:31] <erki> dannybuntu: What software are you using to play the videos?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: you could have your library use the files on a remotely mounted system
[09:31] <_coredump_> moinsen
[09:31] <dannybuntu> erki: both vlc and totem have problems
[09:31] <alex____> *althogh banshee does random for whole library better
[09:32] <erki> dannybuntu: Have you installed proper video card drivers?
[09:32] <klikxx> hio who can helps me?
[09:32] <click170> dannybuntu: whats your proposed problem with vlc?
[09:32] <alex____> me!
[09:32] <aepurniet> hey everybody just wanted to tell you all that i solved my problem.  the installer stalled saying a /dev/blahblah device had an invalid logical cluster size.  solution: unplug your ipod before installing
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> !ask | klikxx
[09:32] <dannybuntu> erki: yes through System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[09:32] <litb> those mates in here say that ubuntu has a bug that can make the harddisk fail
[09:33] <litb> is that true?
[09:33] <erki> aepurniet: Check :)
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: nice one. shouldve had it out anyhoo, who knows what couldve happened to it
[09:33] <puff> damaltor: Actually, I misunderstood the context of your mysql/sqllite question, so nevermind my answer.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: use the KISS method
[09:33] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: this is what i have at the moment. the 100 gb music is mounted via NFS to my machine, and amarok uses the files as if they were on this machine. but it takes way to long to update db and such, and this is what amarok does every few minutes
[09:33] <damaltor> puff: np =)
[09:33] <dannybuntu> click170: video playback is slow on both vlc and totem
[09:33]  * puff gets back to updating ssh keys.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: make it refresh less
[09:33] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: how?
[09:34] <aepurniet> i shouldve unplugged my gamecontroller too, maybe linux would have tried to install itself on that
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: id gues its part of the library options
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: that too, less stuff the better
[09:34] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: a parial update wopuld be great, but it seems to re-write the db every time and re-reads whole musik each time
[09:34] <aepurniet> its not like actively plugged in the ipod before installing, it was just plugged in (tri boot environment now!)
[09:34] <aepurniet> woot
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: flick round the options
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: whatever floats your boat
[09:35] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: cant find such an option. do you think using mysql instead of sqlite qill speed it up a bit?
[09:35] <JackWinter_> please i can't google with this resolution :)  what is the X hotkey for switching resolution ?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> damaltor: ive never played with it that far. give it a go, see what you get
[09:36] <alex____> there is none jack
[09:36] <alex____> close all apps and tru 'ctrl alt backspace' this will restart X
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> JackWinter_: you need to install video drivers and configure them
[09:36] <aepurniet> aight, i have a new problem now, my second monitor is blank, and im using the proprietery nvidia drivers, any place i should look besides the screen res panel (only one monitor listed there)
[09:36] <alex____> if you are lucky, try xrandr
[09:36] <JackWinter_> hmm, i seem to remember some ctrl-alt-+ or something like that...
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | aepurniet
[09:37] <alex____> aepurniet: you can set nvidia up using nvidia-settings
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | aepurniet
[09:37] <alex____> try 'gksu nvidia-settings-manager' or something like that (use nvidia-<tab>)
[09:37] <JackWinter_> so, i have to log out/in to get my desktop going again ?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> JackWinter_: cant hurt to try
[09:39] <alex____> Jackwinter: its easy just press crtl alt backspace
[09:39] <damaltor> ActionParsnip: will try. thanks so far.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> alex____: more graceful to log off and on
[09:40] <aepurniet> ubottu: xinerama looks pretty good, im gonna give that a try now
[09:40] <alex____> grace shmace!
[09:40] <aepurniet> damn these bots are smart
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its all about grace, or you'd have a system held together with spit and string
[09:40] <ha6i> alex____: i somehow managed to solve by using hd0,0 for windows and hd0,1 for linux. anyway thanx...
[09:40] <alex____> Ubottu: are you smart?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !anything
[09:40] <JackWinter> oh well, worked to relogin.  strange i'm pretty sure there are hotkeys to cycle through x resolutions...?
[09:40] <alex____> heh!
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> alex____: theres loads
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> i love you ubottu
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> watch this
[09:41] <alex____> you can set them yourself if it doesnt know already tho right?
[09:42] <shingo> hello
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> yeah alex____
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> hi shingo
[09:42] <alex____> !moo
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[09:42] <ay^> !cocaine
[09:43] <shingo> i'm on a livecd of ubuntu and i'm trying to do su
[09:43] <alex____> !e
[09:43] <shingo> i don't know the password
[09:43] <ushills> does anyone use jungledisk
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> shingo: no need, just sudo everything
[09:43] <shingo> easy enough
[09:43] <shingo> thanks :)
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !root | shingo
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> bit o matrix for the lads
[09:44] <vallhalla81> hi just a qyuick question i wish to add a new sound card to my system will i need to re install ubuntu or add a program or should it auto detect? (it is a suported card)
[09:44] <ay^> vallhalla81: it should autodetect
[09:45] <vallhalla81> ﻿ay^: excelent thank you
[09:45] <ay^> np :D
[09:45] <vallhalla81> back soon wish me luck gl every1
[09:45] <ay^> glhfdd!
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> vallhalla81: install it pysically as normal. id suggest disabling onboard if you have it. if its fully supported it will work, otherwise you'll have to configure it. no need for clean install
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[09:46] <ay^> hehe
[09:46] <shingo> is there a way to try mplayer while on the live cd?
[09:46] <ushills> I need to get jungledisk to run at login, however, it needs to run as root - I have tried modifying permissions but never works
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> clean install for a soundcard would be laughable
[09:46] <rski> shingo: apt-get install it if you got enough RAM
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ushills: try adding it to rc
[09:46] <shingo> well 1gb
[09:46] <shingo> i'll try that now
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> shingo: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:46] <ay^> oh hell, I have to go to an exam now
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> shingo: you coulld always uninstall other apps to make room
[09:47] <shingo> and how can i check how much is used?
[09:48] <Chousuke> top tells you
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> df -h
[09:48] <ushills> Actionparsnip how do i do that the command i need to run is junglediskmonitor
[09:48] <Chousuke> well, that too :p
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> !startup | ushills
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> !boot | ushills
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ushills: you want the second lot
[09:49] <shingo> 491m available, should be enough :p
[09:49] <shingo> thanks
[09:51] <acidsworld> ok anyone know a program with apache allready in it
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: or you can just install apach from repos
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: apache is aprogram itself
[09:53] <shingo> couldn't find package mplayer, is it under a different name?
[09:53] <cloud-ieee> Can anyone help me with a Ubuntu network install?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> shingo: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:53] <acidsworld> i know apache is a program itself
[09:53] <shingo> ah i see thank you
[09:53] <acidsworld> i ant running ubuntu server
[09:54] <acidsworld> reg ubuntu
[09:54] <acidsworld> and wanna host my personal site with it
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: you dont need the server to run apache, you can run apacha on ANY of the buntu range
[09:54] <shingo> hmm
[09:54] <acidsworld> ok
[09:54] <acidsworld> i dont know where to look in add remove programs for it
[09:54] <shingo> even after the update i get E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: use terminal
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> shingo: can you ping websites?
[09:55] <acidsworld> what is link to use in termonal
[09:55] <acidsworld> u know by chance
[09:55] <acidsworld> chance
[09:55] <shingo> yes I can
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | acidsworld
[09:55] <puff> Anybody really familiar with generating SSL certs and keys?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: sudo apt-get install apache<press tab>
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> shingo: hmm strange, maybe you need some new repos
[09:56] <puff> I'm triyng to a) regenerate my SSL keys and b) in the process add several domains as aliases.
[09:56] <shingo> repos?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | shingo
[09:56] <alex____> acidworld and then get your router to forward port 80 (?) to your machines ip
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> shingo: when you use apt-get or synaptic you download fromservers called repositories
[09:57] <alex____> puff: go to #debian , pretend you run debian and ask them. They know
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> alex____: just getting the hhtpd installed and configured is his main worry ;)
[09:57] <alex____> oh! thats easy!
[09:57] <puff> Heh.
[09:57] <dannybuntu> lol @ alex
[09:57] <puff> alex____: Actually, I do run both debian and ubuntu.
[09:57] <acidsworld> Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:57] <acidsworld> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:57] <acidsworld> is only available from another source
[09:57] <acidsworld> E: Package apache has no installation candidate
[09:57] <FloodBot1> acidsworld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <acidsworld> i get an error
[09:57] <acidsworld> that dont work
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: dont flood
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: did you press tab after typing apache?
[09:58] <acidsworld> yes
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: youo can tab complete packages
[09:58] <alex____> #debian is full of real hackers. ubuntu is full of new folks, running desktop linux. debian runs servers and know what ssl is.
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> try apa then press tab
[09:58] <alex____> sudo apt-get install apache2 whould be fine
[09:59] <shingo> well I know the install worked.. Fetched 2B in 0s.. Reading package lists.... Done
[09:59] <acidsworld> i posted the error i get
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> shingo: hmm, try sudo apt-get install mplay<press tab>
[10:00] <shingo> no good
[10:00] <shingo> doesn't complete
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> acidsworld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:00] <alex____> press tab a few times
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> shingo: press it a few times
[10:00] <acidsworld> apache2 works
[10:00] <shingo> did, nothing
[10:00] <shingo> apache works though :p
[10:00] <alex____> how do you get a domain name to point to your ip address?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> nice bit of gratitude there eh
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> "thanks alex____ and ActionParsnip, you guys really helped me"
[10:01] <alex____> how? =)
[10:02] <alex____> oh right! yeah! what about a bit of pleasantries!
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> alex____: get an account with no-ip or dydns
[10:02] <shingo> damn it, bad time for my windows drive to have died... i just want to watch a video
[10:02] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, deluge lets you add multiple trackers to a torrent, but it looks like it only uses one at a time. doesnt utorrent use all the trackers in a torrent at once, gathering peers from all of them?
[10:02] <alex____> use vlc
[10:02] <BezNalogov> Hi people. I have just installed ubuntu 8.04 on a machine, but the default resolution is wrong. After I logged in I changed the resolution via system->preferences->screen resolution. Now it works fine, but only for the current user. How can I make that gdm and other (new made) users use this resolution by default too?
[10:02] <alex____> it will work, i guarantee it~!
[10:02] <shingo> is vlc preinstalled?
[10:02] <rski> no
[10:03]  * dannybuntu will be right back... :)
[10:03] <shingo> apt get vlc doesn't work either :\
[10:03] <alex____> BezNalogov: prolly need to edit xorg.conf a little bit, its complicated.
[10:03] <alex____> shingo: sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:03] <lamego> shingo, you need to have the universe repository enabled
[10:03] <rski> Reading state information... Done
[10:03] <rski> vlc is already the newest version.
[10:03] <rski> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:03] <alex____> vlc is the best thing since sliced bread! I should donate money to them actually...
[10:04] <rski> your sources is broken shingo
[10:04] <rski> fix them and then install it
[10:04] <BezNalogov> ok, is there a guide about changing xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:04] <aepurniet> can i quit x, and go to the command line ?
[10:04] <rski> no other way around it
[10:04] <shingo> lamego: and I do that how?
[10:04] <shingo> i see
[10:04] <BezNalogov> The resolution thqt I want as default is 1280x960
[10:04] <lamego> !universe | shingo
[10:04] <erki> aepurniet: No need to quit X, just press ctrl+alt+f1
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> alex____: i find it bloated, mplayer is much cleaner imho
[10:05] <aepurniet> will that work for installing drivers? well i'll give that a try
[10:05] <erki> Or SMPlayer, which is mplayer+bloat, which I love :)
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> aepurniet: dependson the device
[10:05] <alex____> hmm... vlc bloated... at least it plays _everything_ ! do you know if vlc accepts donations?
[10:06] <aepurniet> nope wont work, need to go to tty1, and kill x
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> alex____: any player can play anything if you have the codecs
[10:06] <aepurniet> is there a gui quit button some where here?
[10:06] <alex____> I don't think it is bloated. it is a 10 - 30 mb download, runs a portable app in windows.
[10:06] <alex____> codecs suck. how do you know what codecs are good? on windows codecs are a recipe for diaster
[10:06] <newbe1> got a program that want me to run the uninstall as  root   what is    root
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> alex____: you research
[10:07] <shingo> Where can I see which version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[10:07] <alex____> newbel: sudo == run as root
[10:07] <proteusguy> How can I tell exactly what version of ubuntu I'm running? I've got a 64bit AMD cpu but not sure if I'm running 32 or 64bit Ubuntu.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: put sudo at the start if the uninstall is going to run n console, or gksudo if its graphical
[10:07] <alex____> look up linux documentation. root is superuser, admin. root is boss
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: lsb_release -a
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you downloaded it, surely you know what architecture your linux is
[10:08] <newbe1> alex>  type    sudo==run as root       just like that
[10:08] <shingo> I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 codename gutsy
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: also uname -a will tell you (i686 = 32bit, X86_64 == 64bit)
[10:08] <newbe1> alex  space between ==
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: whatever command you need root power, type sudo at the start of it
[10:08] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip - Doesn't say if I'm 32 or 64 bit. I didn't install it which is why I'm trying to find out.
[10:09] <newbe1> alex   ok     i will try that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: can you paste the output of uname -a here, i'll tell you
[10:09] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, uname -a says Linux vai 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux. Does the i686 mean my CPU or the build's bitwidth?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: 32bit
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: i686
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: if its a desktop pc then 32bit is fine
[10:10] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, thanx. that explains why it's only seeing 3GB out of my 6GB RAM.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> oh, then you NEED 64bit linux
[10:10] <shingo> Alright guys, I'm going to bed. Thanks for the help :)
[10:10] <proteusguy> yep
[10:11] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, can I upgrade to 64 bit without rebuilding the whole machine?
[10:11] <alex____> proteusguy: you can install  the server kernel, it will recognise your ram
[10:11] <alex____> easy
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you need a whole new setup
[10:12] <proteusguy> alex____, do tell. :) how do I do that/
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: as your apps will be 64bit too
[10:12] <proteusguy> ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: for stability id hit a 64bit OS as much as you can
[10:12] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, I don't really need 64bit apps, just the kernel to get my RAM right?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit kernel
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: right
[10:13] <alex____> 'sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server' from here: http://samiux.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/how-to-use-4-gb-ram-on-a-32-bit-ubuntu/
[10:13] <alex____> as i understand it ... you are right.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> alex____: hmm, might have to hit that, 64bit kernel + 32bit browser ;)
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> alex____: cheeky
[10:13] <alex____> i have 4 gig ram, but onlly use normal kernel, 32 bit OS, I don;t miss that .4 gig
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> i have 1b, suits me fine
[10:14] <alex____> nono. its not 64 bit kernel
[10:14] <alex____> jsut compiled for more ram
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> oic
[10:14] <alex____> 1b?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> 1Gb
[10:14] <alex____> ah.
[10:15] <alex____> this mac has 512 mb, thats all you need, unless you get multitasking, with windows virtual machine etc...
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> runs unreal tournament and uran terror fine with onboard nvidia gfx
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> *urban
[10:15] <newbe1> alex>   thanks for the info
[10:15] <kylekruchok> Hey-lo!
[10:15] <proteusguy> ok going the server kernel upgrade and will see how that works. thanx.
[10:15] <newbe1> alex>  it work great
[10:15] <kylekruchok> I have a bit of an issue, if anyone's willin' to help.
[10:15] <mysterycool> Hey
[10:16] <alex____> newbel, what works great?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: if you dont like it you can always change
[10:16] <alex____> !ask | knlekruchok
[10:16] <mysterycool> S.O.S help! My resolution went mad and the only option is 800 x 600! How can I fix it?
[10:16] <kylekruchok> Haha, ok. :)
[10:16] <proteusguy> ActionParsnip, yeah that's what i figure. the install isn't removing any packages so I presume this will all be selectable via grub.
[10:17] <zackeroo> I am thinking of compiling SSE into my Ubuntu kernel ... any thoughts on this?
[10:17] <kylekruchok> When I click on the Firefox icon, either from the applications menu, or from the shortcut I created, it doesn't completely start the program. It shows up as a process, but disappears from my tray. It stays in the running processes though... Any ideas?
[10:17] <zackeroo> anyone ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> proteusguy: just follow the guide. ive never done it myself
[10:17] <zackeroo> Flannel: you around?
[10:18] <msandbu> Hi all! anyone know of a MSN terminal client ?
[10:18] <CosmicB> zackeroo: doesn't the stock ubuntu kernel stupport sse ?
[10:18] <mysterycool> S.O.S help! My resolution went mad and the only option is 800 x 600! How can I fix it?
[10:18] <kylekruchok> msandbu: If you find one, lemme know. :)
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: run it from terminal after killing all firefoxes, you will get intelligent outputs
[10:18] <msandbu> kylekruchok: will do :)
[10:18] <zackeroo> CosmicB: dunno ... do you?
[10:18] <kylekruchok> Thanks.
[10:18] <CosmicB> msandbu: pidgin (gnome), kopete (kde) f.example
[10:18] <CosmicB> zackeroo: I'm pretty sure the stock kernel supports sse
[10:18] <msandbu> that can be run in CL ?
[10:18] <msandbu> CLI*
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: if all else fails, rename ~/.mozilla to something else and rerun to get stock profile, you will then have to readd favourites etc
[10:19] <zackeroo> CosmicB: ok .. but is it active ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> msandbu: you can run any app from terminal
[10:19] <mysterycool> How can I change my screen resolution?
[10:20] <CosmicB> zackeroo: try "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:20] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Nope. It asks me if I want to restore, or start fresh. Both terminate the program on the desktop, and tray, but leave it running in System Monitor.
[10:20] <msandbu> ActionParsnip: that I know, but I want to keep running in the CLI, dont want any GUI, just cli :)
[10:20] <zackeroo> CosmicB: what am I looking for?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> msandbu: you can webbrose without an xserver, you just cant have flash embedded
[10:21] <mysterycool> How can I change my screen resolution?
[10:21] <alex____> you can run it in another tty: ctrl alt F1...6 and get back with ctrl alt F7 (usually)
[10:21] <CosmicB> zackeroo: look at the "flags" line, it shows what instructions your cpu supports
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: killall firefox
[10:21] <CosmicB> zackaroo: I'm 99,9% sure that implies your kernel supports it
[10:21] <alex____> mysterycool: no easy way. try nvidia-settings or xrandr or xorg.conf
[10:21] <kylekruchok> No processes killed.
[10:22] <mysterycool> alex____: I am not using nvidia.
[10:22] <zackeroo> CosmicB: well I know it supports SSE ... but does that mean Ubuntu is able to utilize that?
[10:22] <alex____> ati?
[10:22] <mysterycool> Yes
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: ps -ef | grep fire
[10:22] <alex____> xrandr works
[10:22] <alex____> its a CLI app though
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: is it still there
[10:22] <mysterycool> alex____: What should I do?
[10:22] <kylekruchok> Yes.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: then kill its PID
[10:22] <kylekruchok> But a zero counter on the clock...
[10:22] <kylekruchok> kyle      6637  6502  0 03:22 pts/1    00:00:00 grep fire
[10:23] <alex____> read the manual! 'man srandr' after you install 'sudo apt-get install xrandr'
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: thats the command we just ran
[10:23] <CosmicB> zackeroo: I'm also 99,9999% sure the ubuntu stock kernel utilize that, I mean, sse is like 10 years old or something (?)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: try: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: then run firefox
[10:23] <alex____> * actually xrandr
[10:24] <kylekruchok> So, all that did was move my settings folder, and FireFox had to create a new one?
[10:24] <Harts> !fr| Harts
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: bingo
[10:24] <dan> hello
[10:25] <CosmicB> zackeroo: to be 100% sure, download kernel sources, and from source dir. issue "$cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config", then when you do a make menuconfig you're loading your current config, then you can easily check what 's supported and whats not
[10:25] <dan> i am using qvwm and it looks like windows 95 lol
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: if the setttings get malformed, programs go wonky
[10:25] <CosmicB> zackaroo: there might be an easier way to do this, but I can come up with one right now
[10:25] <cloud-ieee> YES!
[10:25] <cloud-ieee> Got the network install to work! :D
[10:25] <mysterycool> !xrandr
[10:25] <zackeroo> CosmicB ... thanks
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: wt!
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> *wtg
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> In case anyone is interested. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> Great guide! :p
[10:26] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: It still won't load FireFox. I've uninstalled, and reinstalled it twice now. Something tells me it's not just Firefox that is causing the problem. This has happened a couple times before, and naturally fixed itself... not sure why it's not just fixing itself now.
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> Action, thx bro.
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> :)
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: the wonders of websearches eh
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> lol no doubt man...
[10:26] <CosmicB> zackaroo: come to think of it, just open up /boot/config-$(uname -r) and search for SSE, should be easier, :)
[10:26] <cloud-ieee> I got tired of asking for help :p
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: ok run firefox from terminal and wait for it to crap out, then can you pastebin the outputs you get (if any) and give us the link
[10:27] <kylekruchok> Sure.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> cloud-ieee: you should do it the other way, try websearches, THEN ask
[10:28] <milligan_> I want to install freeeradius .. how can I check what version of it is in the ubuntu repos?
[10:28] <cloud-ieee> Action, believe it or not I did. No one was replying to me so I just kept researching :p
[10:28] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Pastebin = ? Just put screenshots online?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !freeradius
[10:28] <backenfutter> milligan_, apt-cache search freeradius
[10:28] <cloud-ieee> Action, you're right though.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !info freeradius
[10:29] <milligan_> dang, that's old.
[10:29] <mrichman_> I've added a 2nd network adapter...how do I get it to show up as eth1 ?
[10:29] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, any way of checking what version they are shipping in interpid ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: there maybe another repo out there with a newer version
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: you can search the repos on the ubuntu website
[10:29] <david> hello, i need help with vwserver
[10:30] <backenfutter> mrichman_, it should show up as unconfigured eth1 in ifconfig, doesn't it?
[10:30] <Guest17586> i set up a virtual windows xp, and i powered it on. now how do i see it?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: you can view it in the vmware console
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: type vmware & in terminal
[10:30] <mrichman_> backenfutter: not sure how to tell
[10:31] <backenfutter> mrichman_, type 'ifconfig'
[10:31] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: There is nothing to paste...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: gah, ok then check system logs
[10:31] <alex____> virtualbox is better!
[10:31] <mrichman> backenfutter: i see eth0, eth1, and lo
[10:31] <alex____> (actually i haven't tried vmware)
[10:31] <backenfutter> mrichman, ok, the adapter was found, now configure it with ifup - use 'man ifup'
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alex____: on dual core systems, vmware is way more efficient that vmware
[10:32] <Fauskin> hi! im totally new to ubuntu.. can anyone tell me how i can create a .conf file? When i try in the text editor, i get the answer that i dont have the rights to save to etc.. Would appreciate all help! :)
[10:32] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: orly?
[10:32] <[Si|0]> arghhh
[10:32] <moDumass> hey all, i have somehow lost access to my smb nas
[10:32] <moDumass> just moved machines, nothing else
[10:32] <alex____> mrichman: nah edit /etc/network/interfaces ... much better!
[10:32] <backenfutter> ActionParsnip, ;-) d'oh
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alex____: plus i found setting up the rdp easer as it has a bridged LAN I can see on my routers dhcp list
[10:32] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, so it is browser based?
[10:33] <[Si|0]> i randomly did an update and i think my distro has chanbged, and now compiz and emerald wont work....Anyone know how i can fix it?
[10:33] <cloud-ieee> Action, I have a quick question for you. A few days ago I installed Ubuntu on a HD that has an NTFS partion. I was able to access it and named it /media/disk-1. I installed VirtualBox and was running Windows inside of it. I ended up having to reboot Ubuntu and came back to that partition going from /media/disk-1 to /media/disk. I was unable to access my Windows hypervisor, but more importantly what would cause Ubuntu to r
[10:33] <alex____> actionparsnip: so the virtual OS can use multiple cores?
[10:33] <benoitc> hi all
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: no, the vmware & will allow you to conect to the local host to view running vms
[10:33] <Gnea> [Si|0]: try making a new account and logging in with it and see if compiz is broken with it or not
[10:33] <[Si|0]> ok thx
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> alex____: yes as well as the system as far as ive seen runs much smoother
[10:33] <benoitc> is there any possibility to reinsyall all base system on ubuntu 8.0.4 ? I tried tasksel but it segfault :/
[10:33] <alex____> I'm not changing, I have had a virtualbox disk image for years now, since I used debian etch in testing. It is still going and runs my windows onlyl apps for Uni.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its a case of !worksforme
[10:34] <mrichman> backenfutter: i have /etc/network/interfaces set up, but when i do networking restart, I get SIOCADDRT: No such process\nFailed to bring up eth1
[10:34] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, so everytime i want to start windows i have to login the browser?
[10:34] <backenfutter> [Si|0], using intrepid or hardy?
[10:34] <alex____> oh and seamless mode is cool toO!
[10:34] <[Si|0]> intrepid now it seems :>
[10:34] <[Si|0]> was hardy before tho im sure
[10:34] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: is vbox more efficient than vbox?
[10:34] <bendis_vis> hi all
[10:34] <litb> alex____: yay seemless mode rocks hard!
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: if the system is started i dont believe so, what i do is use alltray and dock it to the system tray
[10:34] <alex____> lol
[10:34] <backenfutter> [Si|0], my compiz.real crashes every once in a while on ibex as well... hope they get it fixed before release
[10:34] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:34] <litb> kwin rocks them all anyway
[10:34] <alex____> seamless chrome in linux is a cool way to show off =P
[10:34] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, can you explain that a little better?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: ive not looked at efficiecy, i just liked how it got setup etc. i find it smoother, maybe its more efficient, maybe its slicker
[10:35] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: I didn't even mean to update to that distro, i just did the updates as usual and bam :|
[10:35] <alex____> copy and pase would be good, and drag and drop
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> alex____: seamless chrome?
[10:35] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: so it's more efficient than itself?
[10:35] <backenfutter> [Si|0], ???
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: that doesnt make sense
[10:35] <Guest17586> AccessExcess, how do i know if it is started on startup? does it mean that every time i start ubuntu it automatically starts windows?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: x > x ?
[10:35] <puff> so, I followed this tutorial to originally set up this server: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[10:36] <alex____> running google chrome in seamless mode in a virtual machine, looks native in linux, runs real fast etc...
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], complete version update should take around an hour or more
[10:36] <[Si|0]> yeh it did
[10:36] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: neither does this: 05:32 < ActionParsnip> alex____: on dual core systems, vmware is way more efficient that vmware
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: add it to your startup guff
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], did it take that long?
[10:36] <backenfutter> kk
[10:36] <tekstacy> Can someone tell me a program in the repos for beginner-level web page design?
[10:36] <[Si|0]> but i didn't realise what it was doing lol
[10:36] <[Si|0]> i just thought it was a run-of-the-mil;l update
[10:36] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, add what, firefox to open localhost:88...?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: gah, i meant vmware more effiecient than vbox
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], that's funny... thought you'd explicitly have to tell it to update to new verion...
[10:36] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: figured i'd point that out before you got too far into the discussion :)
[10:36] <puff> However, I don't remember setting up SSL certs for apache, and there's nothing in the tutorial about that.  Are the self-signed certs set up automatically by the package install?
[10:36] <backenfutter> [Si|0], at least that's how it used to be
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: im unsure, i always have the gui app thing churning away in my systray
[10:37] <backenfutter> [Si|0], how did you update? what did you type?
[10:37] <moDumass> !nas
[10:37] <moDumass> !cifs
[10:37] <Guest17586> ActionParsnip, whats the name of the gui app?
[10:37] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: This is what I get: Oct 28 03:31:28 Bessy anacron[7075]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2008-10-28
[10:37] <kylekruchok> Oct 28 03:31:28 Bessy anacron[7075]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
[10:37] <alex____> tekstasy: I recmmend htmldog (search google) and gedit
[10:37] <puff> tekstacy: I do it all by hand, but I'm a programmer, not a designer.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: long day and my operations and network guys arent picking up their phones
[10:37] <[Si|0]> didn't type anything, it just came up in the 'software updates available' thing
[10:37] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried vbox on multi-core systems yet, so now I'm interested in trying :)
[10:37] <[Si|0]> an extra 500mb of updates
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: vmware
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: install alltray
[10:37] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: eh, it happens, no worries
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest17586: then have a startup item: alltray vmware &
[10:38] <tekstacy> puff, it's for my 12 year old niece, she would scream and run away from that.
[10:38] <alex____> what is the kde app for html editting? wysiwyg and all?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> alex____: kate
[10:38] <alex____> nope
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !info bluefish
[10:39] <litb> alex____: you want Quanta
[10:39] <litb> !quanta+
[10:39] <litb> !quanta
[10:39] <Gnea> !info quanta
[10:39] <litb> bad ubottu
[10:39]  * Gnea eyes litb suspiciously
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> !info quanta
[10:40] <alex____> i wasn't thinking of quanta either
[10:40] <newbe1> ! uninstall wine
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !info kdewebdev
[10:40] <nenad> hi people. may i ask a question about ubuntu :)
[10:40] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> alex____: komposer
[10:40] <litb> !ask
[10:40] <alex____> the little html editing I have done was using gedit anywho. I jsut wanted to recommend it to the poster above.
[10:40] <backenfutter> nenad, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:40] <alex____> KOMPOSER!
[10:40] <Gnea> !ask > nenad
[10:40] <litb> lol
[10:40] <missille> hi, new to ubuntu. Have a problem, I installed it on a usb 2.0 stick. But it only runs on usb 1 so its very slow
[10:40] <emma> is there something from the command line to make a cd eject?
[10:40] <litb> Gnea: ive already done !ask
[10:41] <emma> it's not ejecting for some reason.
[10:41] <Gnea> litb: you didn't direct.
[10:41] <newbe1> ! wine
[10:41] <puff> tekstacy: Idaknow, don't underestimate kids' power to learn.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> emma: sudo eject /dev/<cd name>
[10:41] <missille> does anybody know an command line or anything to fix the problem
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> emma: man eject
[10:41] <nenad> yeah sorry.. as soon i asked to ask I recalled that I read somewhere that I shouldn't do that
[10:41] <kylekruchok> missille: Which problem?
[10:41] <msandbu> !openssh
[10:41] <Gnea> missille: obtain a system with usb 2.0 ports
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> missille: you sure the PC you've plugged it into supports USB2?
[10:41] <alex____> tekstacy: try komposer, or perhaps quanta
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> missille: are you running intrepid?
[10:41] <missille> yeah i got usb 2 ports
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> missille: are you fully updated?
[10:42] <missille> ﻿intrepid... no idea
[10:42] <missille> cant fully update
[10:42] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: Dude, there's nothing regarding Firefox in the system log.
[10:42] <Gnea> missille: then it shouldn't be running at 1.1 speeds.
[10:42] <missille> takes like forever
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> missille: lsb_release -a | grep -i code
[10:42] <tekstacy> yeah, I was just looking at quanta, looks cool.
[10:42] <kylekruchok> The last update was like... 3 hours ago.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> kylekruchok: there are loads of logs dude
[10:42] <nenad> whasince new ubuntu is about to be released, do you think it's better to install on a freshly formatted partition or to do dist-upgrade... and why..?
[10:42] <kylekruchok> I know. I looked at them.
[10:42] <alex____> I still think gedit and understanding html yourself is best!
[10:43] <emma> It won't eject
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> nenad: try an update, if its good use it, if not, install clean
[10:43]  * Gnea prefers vim over gedit, but yeah, knowing html > using a gui to get it done
[10:43] <missille> btw how can i check if my ubuntu only runs on usb 1 or if the problem is elsewhere
[10:43]  * ActionParsnip agress with alex____
[10:43] <alex____> nedad: intrepid is released on 30th, new install is best IMHO
[10:43] <kylekruchok> These logs, I checked.
[10:43] <kylekruchok> Oct 28 00:17:01 Bessy CRON[1589]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> alex____: may as well try an update first, it might work, if not, clean install
[10:44] <kylekruchok> Whoops. Wrong paste.
[10:44] <ziroday> emma: you can try find a process that is using the cd, that usually prevents it from ejecting
[10:44] <tekstacy> puff, yeah, she's pretty smart. She prefers ubuntu over vista
[10:44] <alex____> vim == lots of typing, modern folks use mice  ;)
[10:44] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: You think im better off reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:44] <kylekruchok> ActionParsnip: auth, daemon, debug, kern, messages, syslog, user, xorg.0
[10:44] <kylekruchok> Those logs.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> emma: try unmounting the cd, if it says its busy try: cd ~/; lsof | grep <mount point name here>
[10:44] <Gnea> typing code requires lots of typing, not mouse roving ;)
[10:44] <alex____> I like to have 2 OS partitins, one for new ubuntu, one for old!
[10:45] <alex____> install new ubuntu, if it works, I can slowly migrate things I forgot, if it don't I can go back... Oh and have a separate /home partition! very important
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> alex____: i have 1 for linux and one for /sswp; ~/ is mounted to my file server
[10:45] <Gnea> !info vim-gtk
[10:45] <nenad> yeah, i know that nothing beats fresh install, but seems like an awful lot of work downloading all the packages and configuring stuff like azureus, compiz fusion etc etc etc... if i keep my home folder, with all the hidden app folders with settings, will it do good?
[10:45] <alex____> server? surely that slows things down
[10:45] <backenfutter> [Si|0], na, intrepid will be just fine in a few days... not worth the effort
[10:45] <alex____> oh home
[10:46] <alex____> that is nice
[10:46] <[Si|0]> backenfutter: My compiz wont even start
[10:46] <alex____> does having ~ on a server slow things doen at all?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> yeah, saves messing with worrying about backups as they are all done on the server side
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> alex____: 100Mbps is fine for me
[10:46] <tekstacy> Also, is there something in the repos to help a kid learn beginning programming skills?
[10:47] <acidsworld> anyone know how to change apache default to where outside views can see here is what i get http://acidsworld.com go look for urself
[10:47] <backenfutter> [Si|0], just turn it off for a couple of days - I bet you itll be just fine - have you considered opening a bugreport?
[10:47] <OxDeadC0de> I downloaded kubuntu metapackages from the regular gnome, now when I start kde  - Guidance power manager and nm-applet keep starting, I can't figure out where to disable them in favor of the kde versions that are running too, any ideas?
[10:47] <missille> actionparsnip: i tried your command in terminal and it only said no lsb modules are available
[10:47] <Gnea> alex____: i like how a lot of the : commands are menuified - makes learning vim that much easier. so during those times that you get stuck in console and need an editor that can get the job done... ;)
[10:47] <alex____> yep. does the server run ubuntu? where is its home??   =)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> missille: lsb_release -a
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> alex____: its not logged in so no where
[10:47] <alex____> Gnea: i use nano when stuck without x ... I am relatively new to the linux thing though
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alex____: it runs mandriva
[10:48] <alex____> oh
[10:48] <alex____> no apt-get ? how do you get by!
[10:48] <Gnea> alex____: ah, i used to use pico, went to joe and eventually to vi/vim. nano is just another name for pico :)
[10:48] <acidsworld> anyone good with apache that can help
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alex____: urpmi
[10:48] <shingo> what are some good alternatives to kde and gnome?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> alex____: debian isnt the only system base
[10:49] <Gnea> acidsworld: not when you're not here
[10:49] <moDumass> sudo mount -1 gives : mount error 113 = No route to host
[10:49] <ikonia> shingo xfce/fluxbox/enlightment
[10:49] <rski> shingo: e17 xfce
[10:49] <OxDeadC0de> shingo: blackbox, fluxbox, xfce,
[10:49] <alex____> ok
[10:49] <moDumass> but i can see the host
[10:49] <Gnea> !lamp | acidsworld
[10:49] <ikonia> moDumass: what command are you using
[10:49] <moDumass> i can log into its admin page
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> shingo: you can use kde or gnome but use a slimmer windows manager on it, like fluxbox
[10:49] <moDumass> ikonia what do you mean?
[10:49] <Ohmu> guys, I had some disk partitioning util on System->Admin on my ubuntu BootCD.  But it's not there on the full install.  What's it called, so I can get it?
[10:49] <acidsworld> no i need to know how to change apache http config
[10:49] <alex____> e17 or xfce
[10:49] <tekstacy> shingo, I use xfce on an older system that sucks w/ kde
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> shingo: same apps, differnt frontend to you
[10:49] <ikonia> moDumass what command generates that error
[10:49] <acidsworld> but cant find httpconfig
[10:49] <acidsworld> installed apache2
[10:50] <acidsworld> and it is working
[10:50] <alex____> Ohmu: gparted
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know how to disable nm-applet and guidance power manager when kde and gnome are installed together?
[10:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: its in /etc/apache - it's not called httpd.conf in ubuntu
[10:50] <moDumass> ikonia sudo mount -a
[10:50] <Gnea> !gparted | Ohmu
[10:50] <acidsworld> http://acidsworld.com
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> in kde
[10:50] <ikonia> moDumass: in your fstab do you have any remove hosts
[10:50] <missille> ﻿ActionParsnip:No LSB modules are available.
[10:50] <missille> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[10:50] <missille> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:50] <missille> Release:	8.04
[10:50] <missille> Codename:	hardy
[10:50] <FloodBot1> missille: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: fire it at acidsworld
[10:50] <shingo> apt-get installed blackbox, now how do i switch from gnome to it?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> missille: dont flood please
[10:50] <Gnea> !pastebin | missille
[10:50] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry - did that go to you
[10:50] <alex____> gparted live cd is fantastic
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> missille: you are on hardy
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: indeed ;)
[10:50] <moDumass> ikonia nothing should have changed, i only moved my machine about 5 yards
[10:50] <moDumass> gime a sec
[10:50] <OxDeadC0de> shingo gdm should allow you to switch to it by clicking "sessions" before you log in
[10:50] <missille> check, no flooding
[10:51] <OxDeadC0de> blackbox is very lightweight, you'll need to edit all your menus by hand in ~/.blackbox/
[10:51] <ikonia> moDumass: check if you have remote hosts in your fstab
[10:51] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i've just installed mame through apt, where would mame.ini be?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> missille: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgarde; sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade'
[10:51] <CoRnJuLiOx> is there a default directory for .ini files?
[10:51] <acidsworld> ok i guess nobody can help me
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> missille: without the '
[10:51] <ikonia> CoRnJuLiOx: linux doesn't use ini
[10:51] <Gnea> OxDeadC0de: I prefer to edit my menus via gui in e17
[10:51] <tekstacy> ah, back to work. Thanks for the advice guys.
[10:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> ikonia, no, mame is asking me to check the rompath defined in the mame.ini file, where would that have been placed since i installed it through apt
[10:52] <tsrepadmin> How can i build drivers for the amd64 arch? I crash my system (libasound.so.2), when make install sound or graphics driver
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> CoRnJuLiOx: sudo find / -name mame.ini
[10:52] <ikonia> CoRnJuLiOx: look at your mame config
[10:52] <Gnea> tsrepadmin: what drivers?
[10:53] <missille> ap: thanks will try those ones out
[10:53] <newbe1> need to completely uninstall the  Wine app  got part ie6 in there and it won't reinstall
[10:53] <RanyAlbeg> i have a file called "jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin" = java development kit , which i want to install. how do i do that?
[10:53] <ikonia> RanyAlbeg use the java instal out of the ubuntu repo
[10:53] <moDumass> ikonia //192.168.1.2/PUBLIC\040DISK\0401 /media/NAS200/200Gig cifs auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=evilsherpa,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0
[10:53] <shingo> so to start fluxbox i have to kill gnome?
[10:53] <ikonia> moDumass: thats the problem then
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> RanyAlbeg: chmod +x ./jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin && ./jdk-6u10-linux-i586.bin
[10:54] <ikonia> moDumass: no route to host 192.x.x.x
[10:54] <moDumass> the ip of my nas is now 192.168.1.1 though
[10:54] <alex____> um... is it usual for gparted to take a long time to resize large (600 gig) partitions?
[10:54] <OxDeadC0de> Gnea: I prefer kde now that I have a computer fast enough, and it's polished
[10:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:54] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: you shouldn't, just: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[10:54] <moDumass> im guessing when i moved everything the nas was re addressed
[10:54] <acidsworld> anyone know how to change apache default to where outside views can see here is what i get http://acidsworld.com go look for urself
[10:55] <tsrepadmin> Gnea: for example the actual alsa driver
[10:55] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Thanks , but for knowing to deal with a similar case in the future what am i supposed to do
[10:55] <Gnea> OxDeadC0de: e17 has become quite polished, and minimum requirements, these days, are as little as a 100mhz cpu and 64 megs of ram.
[10:55] <alex____> I asked gparted live cd to change some partitions, and it has taken a day so far, and is advising me it will take anothe 5o hours!!!!!!! can I cancel it?
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld that looks like file system permissions on your sites content
[10:55] <acidsworld> yeh
[10:55] <acidsworld> how do i change it
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: I would not advise it
[10:55] <acidsworld> it is the apache
[10:55] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: apt-cache search <for what you want to search for>
[10:55] <backenfutter> acidsworld, chmod -R 755 /path/to/dir
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: use the file manager to change the permissions or the chmod command
[10:55] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: or use the search function in synaptic
[10:55] <acidsworld> i want people to see it
[10:55] <ikonia> acidsworld: it could also be an apache "Directory" directive that needs setting depending on the location
[10:55] <acidsworld> it is apache
[10:55] <Oprtz> ﻿anybody know how to play streaming video in ubuntu ? i am facing problems, i just install mplayer plugin for  firefox, and it load the video but after that NO VIDEO ....
[10:55] <emilien> i know this is only partly ubuntu related but has anyone got any idea on making windows usb installer in ubuntu ?
[10:56] <ikonia> acidsworld: how do you know it's apache ?
[10:56] <Gnea> tsrepadmin: alsa drivers come with ubuntu, why would you need to compile it?
[10:56] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Yea but if i have a bin file
[10:56] <ikonia> emilien: what ?
[10:56] <acidsworld> i installed it
[10:56] <backenfutter> acidsworld, take a look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default   -   that should give you a head start
[10:56] <ikonia> acidsworld: I've just explained the possible errors, you need to check them
[10:56] <tsrepadmin> I have a ASUS P5E-VM HDMI motherboard and try to use sound and graphics card with actual drivers. Graphics isn't working with two monitors, and I have no sound
[10:56] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: all i'm saying, is that in cases like the JDK, you don't need the bin file - you'll get less errors by installing the packages made for ubuntu
[10:57] <shingo> if i kill gnome is it going to kill all the apps i have running with it?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> tsrepadmin: lspci will tell you what hardware you have, you can websearch from there
[10:57] <shingo> like pidgin for example
[10:57] <ikonia> shingo yes
[10:57] <shingo> or is it like killing explorer?
[10:57] <shingo> damn
[10:57] <emilien> ikonia:  i have no cdRom and i need to install windows using a usb , all tools to do this are windows only
[10:57] <ikonia> emilien thats nothign to do with ubuntu, join ##windows
[10:57] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: :) I understand you , and i did what you said , but yet how do i install this bin file
[10:58] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: if in doubt, search the repository first. then search google for it (i usually throw the search word 'ubuntu' in there with it) to see if someone else has made a package for it or not. they may have a third-party repo setup.
[10:58] <alex____> anyone experienced gparted taking way too long?
[10:58] <OxDeadC0de> shingo: there used to be a "Desktop chooser" tool you could use to switch window managers on the fly without closing everything
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: and if no luck with google, hit up www.ask.com
[10:58] <ikonia> alex____ you've asked and you've been told
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: log out, change session type
[10:58] <OxDeadC0de> yea I know
[10:58] <emilien> ikonia: true , but there going to point me here because im using linux
[10:58] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: you could just chmod 700 file.bin and then ./file.bin, but it won't be my fault if your system gets screwed up as a result :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> alex____: change hard drive setings with hdparm before starting
[10:59] <shingo> too bad I don't have it :\
[10:59] <ikonia> emilien you need to do it on a windows host then - or use trial and error to get linux to make the usb the correct format,
[10:59] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone know how to disable nm-applet and guidance power manager in kde sessions?
[11:00] <emilien> ikonia:  had a feeling would be down to trial and error XD
[11:00] <shingo> SO CTRL ALT backspace will kill genome and goto console?
[11:00] <ikonia> shingo no it will restart X
[11:00] <backenfutter> shingo, will restart x-server
[11:00] <shingo> ah
[11:00] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: why it will get fucked off :D
[11:00] <alex____> actionparsnip: its running now. I was happy for it to take some time, but now 3 days!
[11:00] <OxDeadC0de> that depends on whether or not gdm or kdm is running or some other *dm
[11:00] <ikonia> RanyAlbeg: moderate your language please.
[11:00] <backenfutter> RanyAlbeg, whatch language pls
[11:00] <alex____> *NOT
[11:01] <backenfutter> -h
[11:01] <ikonia> alex____ don't lie - you said it was 1 day before - now your saying 3
[11:01] <RanyAlbeg> sry .
[11:01] <alex____> it has taken 1 day, now that bit finished (reading partition) resizing is gonna take 50 hours!
[11:01] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: what problems can it make? :)
[11:01] <alex____> no lie
[11:01] <ikonia> alex____: thats the tiemm it takes then
[11:02] <alex____> shite... gotta let it go now eh...
[11:02] <ikonia> alex____: you've asked the same question 5 times and you've been told "yes it can take a long time for big partitions with lots of data"
[11:02] <ikonia> alex____: control your language please.
[11:02] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: browser crashes, general instability
[11:02] <alex____> ? I wasn't told at all, just got grumpy old you telling me I ask too much
[11:03] <ikonia> alex____ I told you it could take a long time, and I advised you not to quit it mid-resize
[11:04] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: Thanks, i installed it
[11:05] <Gnea> RanyAlbeg: cheers
[11:05] <RanyAlbeg> Gnea: :P
[11:05] <alex____> *sigh ... well I hope it doesn't take twice as long as it said it would this time (it did for the last bit)... 100 hours is a lot.
[11:07] <newbe1> sudo  command to remove  wine  please
[11:08] <CoRnJuLiOx> newbe1: sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:08] <newbe1> thanks
[11:08] <sleven> l
[11:08] <ikonia> newbe1 you may find it easier using a tool like synaptic
[11:08] <alex____> newbel: surely you could have thought that out yourself?
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____ he asked a legitate question
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____: gparted presents you with the time yet your still asking how long it takes to finish
[11:08] <ikonia> alex____: people can ask simple questions.
[11:09] <Gorlist> Good Morning, quick question - I just had my desktop crash and return to login prompt, and since then the package manager won't load (it appears on screen for a second then disappears). Any suggestions?
[11:09] <ikonia> Gorlist is anything else that requires root permission to run failing ?
[11:09] <ikonia> Gorlist: more so at a gui level
[11:10] <Gorlist> Will try, one second
[11:10] <Gorlist> Appears to be fine, only the package manager
[11:10] <calwig> anyone know where i can get icecast icegenerator
[11:11] <ikonia> Gorlist ok so from teh command line do "gksudo synaptic" and monitor the output in the terminal
[11:11] <Gorlist> ikonia: nothing
[11:12] <ikonia> Gorlist nothing returned, or nothing happened
[11:12] <Gorlist> nothing returned
[11:12] <Gorlist> it prompts for password, the main gui screen appears then disappears
[11:12] <ikonia> Gorlist: humour me, do "gksudo firefox" - does the same happen ?
[11:12] <Gorlist> (in the taskbar ive also got an error notification of "A problem occurred when checking for the updates")
[11:13] <Gorlist> FireFox loads fine
[11:13] <ikonia> Gorlist interesting
[11:14] <Gorlist> I recently installed alsamixurgui, when I clicked on it the list disappeared for a second before coming back - not sure if thats related
[11:14] <ikonia> Gorlist: lets try this "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal
[11:14] <alex____> Gorlist: try command line: apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:14] <ikonia> alex____ whoaaaaa
[11:14] <ikonia> Gorlist just do the update
[11:14] <Gorlist> Okay thats done a few things, and has completed
[11:14] <alex____> =)
[11:14] <Gorlist> im regards to Ikonia
[11:15] <Gorlist> in..
[11:15] <tanto_> i have 1 data partition which mount on /media/disk. is it okay?, or should be mount on /mnt.
[11:15] <ikonia> Gorlist: so that updated the source file correctly, now, what happens if you try to launch synaptic
[11:15] <ikonia> tanto_: fine on /media
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tanto_: you can mount ANYWHERE except /proc
[11:15] <Gorlist> ikonia: Thank you, thats now working again.
[11:15] <ikonia> Gorlist: cool
[11:15] <VladimirLV> Hello
[11:15] <Gorlist> What do you suspect the problem was?
[11:16] <ikonia> Gorlist: looks like synaptic crashed mid source update, and couldn't recover form the corrupted file
[11:16] <Gorlist> ah right
[11:16] <Gorlist> Okay, well thank you for that :)
[11:16] <VladimirLV> Help me please! Im using postfix mail server and mails from it doesnt reached to gmail.com ?
[11:16] <tanto_> ikonia: actionparsnip: ok. thx a lots.
[11:16] <ikonia> no problem
[11:16] <VladimirLV> Why?
[11:16] <ikonia> VladimirLV: are you on dhcp ?
[11:16] <VladimirLV> ikonia: no
[11:16] <VladimirLV> static ip
[11:16] <ikonia> VladimirLV: home dsl ?
[11:17] <VladimirLV> nooo
[11:17] <xoger> hello all
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: data center ?
[11:17] <VladimirLV> ikonia: collocation with static ip
[11:17] <VladimirLV> without any dhcp or router
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV ok first thing to do is the postfix log - see if it looks like it's sending
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: send to other hosts to see if they can get mail
[11:17] <VladimirLV> where is it? can find ;/
[11:17] <VladimirLV> ikonia: yes.. mail.ru - can, inbox.lv - can
[11:17] <ikonia> VladimirLV: check mail black lists to see if your ip is blacklised
[11:17] <VladimirLV> and others - can
[11:17] <VladimirLV> but gmail.com - no
[11:18] <VladimirLV> where is it?
[11:18] <VladimirLV> ikonia: thank you :-)
[11:18] <ikonia> VladimirLV: probably a black list or a r-dns issue
[11:18] <ikonia> VladimirLV: where is what
[11:18] <VladimirLV> black list
[11:18] <ikonia> black list could be on the itnerenet, or internal to google depending on what they use
[11:18] <missille> ﻿ActionParsnip: am btw still installing the upgrades, checked out usbview. It gives only an error that it cannot open /proc/bus/usb/devices. could that have to do with my problem?
[11:19] <VladimirLV> ikonia: oh..
[11:19] <VladimirLV> ikonia: some mails is reaching, but some - no
[11:19] <calwig> anyone here know about icecast, icegenerator? please.....!
[11:19] <ikonia> VladimirLV gmail could be queing or blacklisting you
[11:19] <ikonia> VladimirLV: you need to be specific you said no mails where getting to gmail
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !icecast
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !info icecast
[11:20] <newbe1> Help  part of IE6  is still in wine  i need to completely remove the wine app
[11:20] <VladimirLV> ikonia: oh. ok, thank you :-)
[11:20] <Ohmu> GParted says I have a /dev/sda3... and it's an ext3.  but ls /dev/sda3 doesn't work.  how to find whats on it?
[11:21] <filleokus> gday everyone
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: sudo apt-get --pure remove wine
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: also to remove all user settings: rm -rf ~/.wine
[11:21] <filleokus> i have a problem with ffmpeg when im gonna convert movies to my ipod touch
[11:21] <filleokus> http://p.opsat.net/v/1il
[11:22] <tanto_> on m y /fstab, there is an error.  "relatime, errors=remount-ro". what it's mean.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: sudo fdisk -l
[11:22] <ziroday> tanto_: thats not an error, those are mount options
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> relatime needs to be changed to something else
[11:23] <enurien> hello all
[11:23] <clev> ummmm, init is eating 100% cpu
[11:23] <clev> that aint good
[11:23] <Ohmu> ActionParsnip, thanks.  That shows me it's my boot partition.  But how do I see which files are on this partition, and which on my other?  For some unknown reason my ubuntu seems to be spanning 2 partitions. (and thats not counting the swap partitions).
[11:23] <tanto_> ziroday: can you explain, or give me a link related this.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: you need to mount it see the files
[11:25] <newbe1> ActionParsnip>  it said pure is not understood
[11:26] <alexharrington> Any libvirt gurus? Trying to get to the qemu monitor on a kvm setup but having problems
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: --purge
[11:26] <legend2440> newbe1 purge not pure
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> newbie2: not pure
[11:26] <newbe1> ok
[11:26] <Ohmu> ActionParsnip, its probably mounted somewhere already (else how could it have files in it? ... I started ubuntu with an empty hdd)  Can I list all mounted devices?  /mnt is empty
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Ohmu: mount on its own will show you what is mounted
[11:27] <dr_willis> Ohmu,  'mount' command shows all mounted media.
[11:27] <useh31337> hi there
[11:28] <newbe1> ok   wine is still in the pull down of applications
[11:28] <dr_willis> Ohmu,  if you some how forget to mount somthing to its mountpoint - you can copy files to the directory.. and sort of not realise the stuff is getting copied to the wrong place
[11:28] <ziroday> alexharrington: you can ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:29] <alex____> wow. I read a post in ubuntuforums, a guy billgoldberg: ran gparted resizing for 70 hours!!!  stopped it and all data were intact! I think I might stop mine, 50 hours of estimated time is too much, recommendations?
[11:29] <alexharrington> ziroday: thanks. Tried in #ubuntu-virt but it's dead atm. I'll try server too
[11:29] <dr_willis> alex____,  what are you resizeing?
[11:29] <alex____> my home partition and some other things
[11:29] <ziroday> alex____: didn't ikonia already tell give you a recommendation?
[11:29] <legend2440> newbe1: you already ran        rm -rf ~/.wine    in terminal?
[11:30] <dr_willis> alex____,  how large? this is ext2/3/ntfs?
[11:30] <alex____> its a 750 gig hdd, wanted room for more space on other partition
[11:30] <alex____> 600 gig p[artition
[11:30] <alex____> could take weeks!
[11:30] <dr_willis> alex____,  50+ hrs... seems way way too long...
[11:30] <newbe1> Lenend2440>  yes it said it is not installed
[11:30] <sibikos> guys, i have an open question
[11:30] <OxDeadC0de> so nobody knows how to at least disable gnomes nm-applet in kde sessions without uninstalling it?
[11:30] <newbe1> Legend2440>  yes it said it is not installed
[11:31] <alex____> seems like its not unexpected, but its a long time! especiall since its a live cd,
[11:31] <alex____> no other apps to use
[11:31] <ziroday> sibikos: what is your question?
[11:31] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  i noticed that gnome and kde's nm applets wehre both running for me under gnome.. so i closed kde's and told the gnome sessions  to not start it.. Perhaps kde's session manager tool has similer thing.
[11:31] <legend2440> newbe1: right click  Applications on top panel choose edit menu and you can remove   the Wine entry in your pulldown menu
[11:32] <newbe1> ok
[11:32] <sibikos> i am wondering how ircd hosting servs ircd shell to its client? we all know that one ircd can run only on one port, how they servs all of their client if everyone want to run ircd at 6667 for example?
[11:32] <OxDeadC0de> I looked through the kde session manager, nm-applet isn't loaded there or anywhere in the default gui's for kde
[11:32] <sibikos> :D
[11:33] <sibikos> like i said, it is an open question. sorry if that kind of question is not suppose to be asked in here ;)
[11:33] <ziroday> OxDeadC0de: you can ask in #kubuntu
[11:34] <simon1245> Hi all :)
[11:34] <VladimirLV> where i can see postfix logs?
[11:35] <useh31337> vladik preved
[11:35] <useh31337> :-D
[11:37] <roy_> im having a keymapping problem - im running an XP virtual machine in ubuntu - it was working fine with hardy heron but on upgrading to RC of intrepid ibex some of my keys are not mapped correctly - any ideas ?
[11:37] <ikonia> !ibex > roy_
[11:37] <ryanhaigh> Hi all, I have been running a disk check on my new 1TB drive all day (checking for bad sectors) and it has just completed. From what I can see there are no errors however as indicated e2fsck reports that there are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63592/
[11:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that roy_
[11:37] <Ohmu> heh it's mounted as / (duh!).  It's /dev/sda1/ thats confusing me now.  I've mounted it and it sesems to have a complete linux filestructure. must have created it in my sleep.   doh
[11:38] <mohbana> hi when is the next release due
[11:38] <bazhang> 10/30 mohbana
[11:38] <ikonia> mohbana end of the month
[11:39] <dr_willis> I think we need to get the bot to msg everyone on join the aswers to that question.. :)
[11:39] <dr_willis> End of month, support in #ubuntu+1 till then,  'when its done' and ... lets see what else always gets asked...
[11:39] <alex____> or 30/10 if you're not american
[11:40] <alex____> jackalope next right?
[11:44] <newbe1> Need IE 6 or higher  for a windows app in wine    I have a IE 6  disc   wine tells me that a newer version is on system
[11:45] <ikonia> newbe1 thats a wine issue, you'll find support for wine in #winehq
[11:45] <newbe1> ikonia>  is that a irc
[11:45] <dr_willis> newbe1,  for wine - ther is that mozzilla-wine thing that is supposed to fake out the wine apps into using mozilla.. or gecko. also.
[11:46] <ikonia> newbe1 it is
[11:49] <economyx> i have a bit of a beginner question if anyone is available
[11:50] <ziroday> economyx: sure, just ask away
[11:51] <economyx> ok, i am dual booting with vista installed first, and i am trying to decrease the partition vista is using to create a third partition, i have downloaded gparted live cd and burned it, but it won't boot when i restart
[11:51] <economyx> it brings me back to the same menu to choose vista or ubuntu
[11:51] <ziroday> economyx: you are aware that the ubuntu livecd includes the gparted partitioner right?
[11:51] <economyx> yeah, and i tried that one too
[11:52] <economyx> it asked me if i would like to reinstall ubuntu
[11:52] <economyx> but i was told thats not necessary
[11:52] <newbe1_> ok   what to do about this IE 6  version thing
[11:52] <FAFA> HY LEH GAB
[11:52] <ziroday> newbe1_: have you seen ie4linux?
[11:52] <bazhang> !en | FAFA
[11:52] <ikonia> newbe1_ #winehq as suggested
[11:53] <legend2440> newbe1_: did you have ie6 installed before you removed wine?
[11:53] <newbe1_> IE 6  fail before it was installed
[11:53] <ziroday> economyx: so you have ubuntu installed currently?
[11:53] <ikonia> newbe1_ #winehq will get you specialist wine support
[11:54] <economyx> ziroday: yes, an i'm using it now
[11:54] <ziroday> economyx: are you aware that you can install gparted on your current ubuntu
[11:55] <economyx> ziroday: i have that as well, and when i run it it shows one large partition encompassing the entire HD... which of course is mounted and i can't mess with it
[11:55] <legend2440> newbe1_: check in folder  /opt  see if ie6 is already in there
[11:55] <newbe1_> allmost ready to delete ubuntu    how do i find  #winehq
[11:55] <ikonia> newbe1_ type "/join #winehq"
[11:55] <newbe1_> where
[11:55] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  or just click onthe word  #winehq in most irc clients...
[11:56] <ikonia> newbe1_newbe1_ in your current irc window
[11:56] <bazhang> newbe1_, where you type 'where'
[11:56] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  giving up on Linux because wine dosent work properly.. isent a very good reason.. :)
[11:56] <ziroday> economyx: ah okay, and you can't just access the live environment on the live cd?
[11:56] <dr_willis> newbe1_,  there are some 'set up ie under linux' tools out there also...
[11:56] <economyx> ziroday: exactly, i'd rather just boot from my livecd and screw with it there
[11:57] <ikonia> economyx so whats the problem ?
[11:57] <Maeva> I have AMD64 and adobe flash 10 but I can't watch the video's on this site: www.deredactie.be other site like youtube work though. I get a black screen and the video doesn't load
[11:58] <economyx> ikonia: well now i'm not entirely sure. i have vista and ubuntu sharing a HD and i want to decrease the partition for vista in order to use the space for a third partition. i have the livecd for gparted but it doesnt boot when i restart... and now i'm not sure if there are even two separate partitions...? gparted from linux shows one big block that is mounted
[11:58] <ikonia> economyx looks like you've merged the two partitions
[11:58] <economyx> ikonia: uh oh, how did i do that??
[11:58] <ikonia> economyx resized one to the full size of the disk normally
[11:59] <jrib> Maeva: wfm on amd64 with flash10.  It takes a couple of seconds to play after clicking the play button.  Did you try waiting a bit so it can buffer?
[11:59] <economyx> ikonia: in fact i haven't messed with the partitions except when i initially installed ubuntu. and now when i try to add files to ubuntu it says i don't have space...
[11:59] <ikonia> economyx I thought you just said you messed with them when you booted gparted from the livecd
[12:00] <Bacta> Hi, how do I install a .sh file?
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: livecd won't boot for some reason. i'm using gparted through ubuntu
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx what happens when you try to boot
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: it asks me to use ubuntu or vista
[12:00] <economyx> ikonia: i don't know how to make it boot from CD
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx thats not booting from the cd
[12:00] <ikonia> economyx: thats booting from the harddisk
[12:01] <Mechdave> economyx, what kind of computer have you got?
[12:01] <Maeva> jrib: YEs i waited nothing happens
[12:01] <economyx> mechdave: hp pavilion dv6000
[12:01] <private_meta> hiho... got a small question: i got ubuntu server in a virtual machine, 4gb disk, but i need to set the swap partition to 1gb... how can i resize the system partition to 3gb to be able to increase swap?
[12:02] <newbe1> looks like i am the only user in winehq
[12:02] <jrib> newbe1: you aren't in #winehq...
[12:02] <newbe1> i know
[12:03] <jrib> newbe1: so how does saying "looks like i am the only user in winehq" make any sense?
[12:03] <jrib> Maeva: right now, does youtube work ok?
[12:03] <paul68> I have 2 ethernet cards in my server, only one is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd is that going to interfear with the original setup or can I do this without any problem?
[12:03] <Maeva> yes it does jrib
[12:03] <newbe1> i may just format the ubuntu partition and be done with it   the IE 6 thing sucks
[12:05] <Mechdave> economyx, to get to BIOS you need to press F10 as the HP logo displays
[12:05] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice.Org Calc, how do I generate a set of random numbers based on the "normal distribution", where I manually set the standard deviation?
[12:05] <economyx> mechdave: and from bios?
[12:06] <jrib> Maeva: don't know then, the site is working fine for me and if you get a play button and then after clicking it just a solid black screen then that's exactly what happens here except the video starts after a few seconds of black
[12:06] <floyd> how do i install comix-3.6.5.tar.gz in ubuntu
[12:06] <Archie> hi, i'm completely new to ubuntu, thinking of getting the new 8.10 release.
[12:06] <Mechdave> economyx, when you are there see if you can change the boot priority, I don't have the details yet... still googling
[12:06] <Archie> I have a core 2 duo processor, which I'm guessing will run the AMD64 version, but considering I'm new, mainly will be using it for web/word processing and the occasional gaming, is the extra hassle of running a 64 OS worth it?
[12:06] <Archie> Also, can I run a 64bit ubuntu OS on a different partition, but on the same hard drive as a 32bit windows system?
[12:06] <bazhang> just downloaded the free crossover office pro; it is a .sh file; is the correct action to move to /usr/bin/ and then chmod +x and ./filename.sh ?
[12:06] <Archie> Thanks
[12:06] <economyx> mechdave: i'm sorry i know that's horribly green of me, i just messed with it for a couple hours though and got absolutely stumped. shouldn't i be able to shrink my vista partition through gparted in ubuntu without booting from cd? it just shows one big mounted partition
[12:06] <FloodBot1> Archie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <Maeva> ok thx jrib it's strange though
[12:07] <jrib> !info comix | floyd
[12:07] <Maeva> can I download the release candidate or should I wait for Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:07] <jrib> floyd: avoid downloading tar.gz as they are usually not necessary.  It is better to install software from the repositories using a program like Add/Remove or synaptic
[12:08] <bazhang> I'm guessing I need to sudo chmod +x; is that about right?
[12:08] <floyd> i went to add/remove and it wasnt in there
[12:08] <floyd> when i typed the name
[12:08] <floyd> ill try again
[12:08] <jrib> floyd: use synaptic
[12:08] <Pici> floyd: It may not be, not everything is in add/remove.
[12:08] <Ujjwol> how to shutdown X window but after restart start as normalk
[12:08] <Mechdave> economyx, you dont need to apologise for being new at this, we all were there once :)
[12:08] <Pici> floyd: Everything is in Synaptic though. See System>Administration
[12:08] <floyd> its weird cuz it was in my buddies and not mine
[12:08] <floyd> okay
[12:08] <jrib> Ujjwol: what do you mean by "normal"?
[12:08] <floyd> thanks guys
[12:09] <jrib> floyd: make sure you've enabled universe in Software Sources as well
[12:09] <Mechdave> economyx, could you please re state your problem for me?
[12:09] <Ujjwol> jrib, i mean same login window and gnome desktop | for now i want to shudown X and work on tty2
[12:09] <Ujjwol> others
[12:09] <ziroday> bazhang: yeah chmod+x it, then do sudo -i and then run the .sh file. The cx stuff puts itself in /opt
[12:09] <floyd> it worked!!! thanks again
[12:09] <floyd> man that makes things alot easier
[12:09] <economyx> mechdave: i have gparted installed in ubuntu but when i open it it shows one big partition labeled '/host' and of course i can't mess with it because it's mounted. i'm not even sure my OS's are on different partitions now...
[12:10] <jrib> Ujjwol: you realize you can work in tty2 and keep X working in tty7 (just hit ctrl-alt-f2 and ctrl-alt-f7 to come back to X).  Why do you need to shutdown X?
[12:10] <bazhang> ziroday, thanks! so no need to mv to /usr/bin/ ?
[12:10] <paul68> I have 2 ethernet cards in my server, only one is active at this point, if I activate the 2nd is that going to interfear with the original setup or can I do this without any problem?
[12:10] <ziroday> bazhang: nope
[12:10] <r0nda> have any of you guys moved from windows Vista to Ubuntu and loved it ?
[12:10] <bazhang> ziroday, cheers :)
[12:10] <ziroday> bazhang: it installs itself to /opt
[12:10] <economyx> r0nda: yes yes yes
[12:10] <Mechdave> economyx, just a minute I am doing some reading on gparted
[12:11] <Ace2016_> http://down.codeweavers.com/   ITS FREE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:11] <Pici> Ace2016_: Please don't advertise  in this channel.
[12:11] <Ace2016_> -_-
[12:11] <Pici> paul68: You will probably need to setup the routes for the new chard.
[12:12] <Ace2016_> its free, not advertising, its completely free to download + license for the pro version
[12:12] <Ujjwol> jrib, i need to shudown X so to save power of laptop when i can manage to work on tty2-7
[12:12] <Ujjwol> jrib, isn;t there any way
[12:12] <Pici> paul68: sorry, 'card'
[12:12] <jrib> Ujjwol: ah, well just logout and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' in tty2
[12:13] <Ujjwol> jrib, when i shutdown and login in next time will the x be normal
[12:13] <Mechdave> economyx, hgow did you manage to install gparted on to the hard drive?
[12:13] <paul68> Pici: I know I need to do that but in order to continue I need to know if I can safely activate both interfaces without interfearing with the current setup
[12:13] <jrib> Ujjwol: yep
[12:13] <economyx> mechdave: synaptic manager
[12:13] <Pici> paul68: I'm unsure of what effects it will have on the current state.  Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server as well?
[12:13] <alex____> how do I boot to a command line form grub?
[12:13] <jrib> alex____: for what purpose?
[12:13] <alex____> init=/ or something right?
[12:14] <Mechdave> economyx, Oh I see, you have Ubuntu installed and you used synaptic to install gparted on to Ubuntu
[12:14] <alex____> uninstall firestarter, which causes freeze on boot
[12:14] <dr_willis> alex____,  append 'single' to the end of the kernel options in the grub menus
[12:14] <jrib> alex____: select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[12:14] <Ujjwol> jrib, /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[12:14] <dr_willis> or recovery mode. :) if ya look i think it has single on the end.
[12:14] <jrib> Ujjwol: kdm or xdm then
[12:14] <cloud-ieee> What is the command in terminal to update distro?
[12:14] <paul68> Pici: no I didn't but at this point  eth0 is staying like it was no changes there eth1 is going to activate adn gets another range of IP other then that there are no changes yet since I need to work out the firewall part
[12:14] <floyd> can i find plugins for compiz in synaptic?
[12:14] <Ujjwol> jrib, ok
[12:15] <jrib> !upgrade > cloud-ieee
[12:15] <economyx> mechdave: yes. i installed ubuntu through vista to dual-boot. i assigned it 25GB partition space, and installed gparted later. now i can't see the separate partitions, it all shows up as /dev/sda1 and it's labeled '/boot /host' and i can't mess with it because it's mounted
[12:15] <floyd> prolly not
[12:15] <dr_willis> floyd,  fire up synaptic and search?
[12:15] <floyd> lol
[12:15] <floyd> okay
[12:15] <floyd> thanks
[12:15] <Ujjwol> jrib, kdm or xdm both said same as for gdm
[12:15] <Ujjwol> not found
[12:15] <alex____> recovery mode didn't work. gonna try single
[12:15] <fiyawerx> how can i disable xterm not passing through ctrl key?
[12:15] <fiyawerx> it seems like its intercepting it
[12:15] <jrib> Ujjwol: what ubuntu are you using? ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?
[12:15] <Ujjwol> ubuntu
[12:16] <Mechdave> economyx, can you see the size of this partition?
[12:16] <Ujjwol> jrib, hardy
[12:16] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  its possible its the window manager, or compiz  intercepting it..
[12:16] <jrib> Ujjwol: ps -ef | grep gdm return anything?
[12:16] <economyx> mechdave: yes, i'm using 65.11 GB of 140 max. but it's all on one partition
[12:16] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, ahh do you know where to turn it off in gnome?
[12:16] <ttye0> Easytag and/or both my ID3 related libs are writing tags that are typically malformed on my Pilot MP3 player. Has anyone else experienced this issue? It's only on the player
[12:16] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  i tend to just disable compiz as a #1 thing to test  in such a case
[12:17] <Mechdave> economyx, have you lost vista?
[12:17] <Ujjwol> jrib, yes
[12:17] <economyx> mechdave: nope. i can boot either perfectly
[12:17] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does it return?
[12:17] <Ujjwol> jrib,
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      1989     1  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2090  1989  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2091  2090 12 03:44 tty7     00:06:18 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-cookie-XX3B8XJU-for-gdm -nolisten tcp
[12:17] <Ujjwol> gdm       2140     1  0 03:44 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[12:17] <FloodBot1> Ujjwol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <Ujjwol> root      2224  2090  0 03:45 ?        00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker
[12:17] <alex____> hmm... I think single is no good too. I wan to stop firestarter from starting, boot to command line (really early) and uninstall firestarter. It conflicts with serialmonkey rt73
[12:17] <paul68> Pici: no I didn't but at this point  eth0 is staying like it was no changes there eth1 is going to activate adn gets another range of IP other then that there are no changes yet since I need to work out the firewall part
[12:18] <alex____> what is the kernel option in grub to boot only to root chell?
[12:18] <Ujjwol> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/63603/
[12:18] <dr_willis> alex____,  single normally works for me.. or init=/bin/bash   perhaps
[12:18] <alex____> thats it!
[12:18] <Mechdave> economyx, right, ok now sounds like you are seeing the Ubuntu partitions /boot and the root directory /
[12:19] <dr_willis> I dont see how firestarter can be doing this.. its a gui front end...
[12:19] <alex____> init=/bin/bash
[12:19] <alex____> thanks
[12:19] <alex____> I thnk I'll remember that from now on
[12:19] <dr_willis> init=/bin/nethack
[12:19] <dr_willis> :)
[12:19] <Mechdave> economyx, and not the vista partition
[12:19] <alex____> lol
[12:19] <jrib> Ujjwol: and what does 'ls /etc/init.d/?dm' return?
[12:19] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, heh, its crawl that im trying to play :) gonna drive me nuts if i can't find this.. cant disable stinkin traps without ctrl
[12:20] <economyx> mechdave: sorry, i'm not sure what you mean. i can only see /dev/sda1 and it's ntfs, i'm thinking somehow they're both there. because i can't be using 65GB of space on my ubuntu partition
[12:20] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  try the game in a dfferent window manager/terminal application also.. as a test
[12:20] <alex____> i guess you hardcore folk always use init=/etc/vim
[12:20] <fiyawerx> turned visual affects off
[12:20] <dr_willis> alex____,  init=/bin/irssi :)
[12:20] <alex____> ???
[12:21] <Kian841> hi guys! i have a problem with aMule... i noticed that my servers didn't work, so i deleted them and downloaded a new list and yesterday i was able to see all the servers i also have on eMule on Windows........... today i reopened aMule and i see the old servers mixed with the new ones.... and if i click on a good server, aMule keeps on connecting to unknown ones... and the downloads don't work..... what can i do?
[12:21] <ne2k__> alex____: are you trying to have a nick that ends with more underscores than mine?
[12:21] <Ujjwol> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/63604/
[12:22] <alex____> nope... limechat chose it for me
[12:22] <jrib> Ujjwol: what is that the output of?  It's not of 'ls /etc/init.d/?dm'
[12:22] <Ujjwol> jrib, pasted here output http://paste.ubuntu.com/63604/
[12:22] <alex____> but i do have a nick with more ___ than you
[12:23] <jrib> Ujjwol: did you just run 'ls /etc/init.d/' instead?
[12:23] <Ujjwol> there is output visit that site
[12:23] <jrib> Ujjwol: right, but I am trying to figure out the command that gave you that output
[12:23] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, tried aterm - don't have another wm to try just using gnome, im pretty sure i've run into this before
[12:24] <fiyawerx> but can't for the life of me seem to find where to tell it to ignore control keys as an app
[12:24] <Mechdave> economyx, ok now I have installed gparted too...  top right hand side make sure the drop down list has /dev/sda visible
[12:24] <steveccc> hi all - i have a usb2 hard disk which I have inserted and can see in dmesg is sdc but its the first time I have used it and it has an ntfs filesystem - what is the easiest way to wipe it and format as ext3
[12:24] <jrib> steveccc: gparted
[12:24] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  ive never seen xterm 'steal' the control key.. its very likely its comiz doing it.. IF you are using compiz.. install  'jwm' and try it in there.. its about as small andminimal a window manger as ya can get.
[12:25] <alex____> I cant remove firestarter... i get 'unable to write to /var/cache/apt/' help!
[12:25] <jrib> alex____: because you are being silly.  Just stop from starting
[12:25] <demontager> how to on or off kernel module? I mean do not use command rmmod
[12:25] <alex____> how
[12:25] <Mechdave> alex____, are you trying to remove it as sudo?
[12:26] <alex____> started as root ... much harder than sudo!
[12:26] <jrib> alex____: well first you have to figure out how it starts.  Then I would use a live cd and stop it from starting
[12:26] <Pici> demontager: Put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist if you don't want it to be inserted on boot.
[12:26] <alex____> ...
[12:26] <Ujjwol> jrib, what to do
[12:26] <demontager> thANKS
[12:26] <steveccc> jrib: thanks installing it now - what is the easiest way to encrypt a whole disk?
[12:26] <jrib> Ujjwol: tell me the command you ran that gave you the output you pastebinned
[12:26] <alex____> if i rm /etc/init.d/firestarter, that should do it right?
[12:27] <jrib> steveccc: don't know about encryption
[12:27] <jrib> alex____: just chmod -x that
[12:27] <Ujjwol> jrib, ls /etc/init.d/ ?dm
[12:27] <dr_willis> alex____,  or just move it.. :)
[12:27] <jrib> Ujjwol: ok.  Did you mess around with gdm settings or something?  You don't have a /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:27] <alex____> read only filesystem
[12:28] <alex____> chmod ?
[12:28] <Ujjwol> jrib, not at all
[12:28] <haluk>  hi guys, got en error "LaTeX Error: File `rotating.sty' not found" but idk what package is missing? Can anyone help me?
[12:28] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does 'apt-cache policy gdm' return?
[12:28] <LjL> jrib, there is a space between / and ? there
[12:28] <Elektrikz> hi, is there a way to return the panels options to default?
[12:28] <jrib> LjL: right, but I just grepped the output myself to save time :)
[12:29] <LjL-Temp> !resetpanel | Elektrikz
[12:29] <Ujjwol> jrib, there is any way kill the X process
[12:29] <jrib> Ujjwol: sure, but I don't see how gdm will be starting without a /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:29] <LjL> Ujjwol: of course there is, but you most certainly shouldn't be trying to do that if you don't have a working gdm
[12:29] <jrib> !resetpanel | Elektrikz
[12:30] <alex____> bloody firestarter. I should log a bug with serialmonkey
[12:30] <dulak> what's a good gnome burner program?
[12:30] <jrib> LjL: Ujjwol just wants to turn off gdm (he's in X now), and somehow has no /etc/init.d/gdm.  ps -ef | grep gdm  returns a bunch gdm stuff too
[12:30] <LjL> !burn | dulak
[12:30] <Elektrikz> tnx! :)
[12:30] <dulak> thanks
[12:31] <jrib> alex____: just use recovery mode, or if that fails because of firestarter too, use a live cd
[12:31] <LjL> jrib: maybe he's asked the same question before, and he's been answered to update-rc.d gdm remove?
[12:31] <LjL> jrib: well no, that wouldn't remove it from init.d anyway
[12:31] <Ujjwol> LjL, i didn't did update-rc or anything like that
[12:33] <alex____> yep i used a live cd to mv /etc/init.d/firestarter to somewhere else
[12:33] <jrib> alex____: then move it back and purge firestarter
[12:33] <alex____> yep!
[12:33] <alex____> great
[12:33] <alex____> booted up fine
[12:34] <alex____> and quitting gparted didn't break anthing!
[12:34] <kasansweat> I have a laptop with an intel video card and a minimal xorg.conf with one screen on top of the other as a large virtual screen for dual head.  This only works in Gnome, other window managers just duplicate the screen -- how can I get this working in other wms?
[12:35] <ziroday> kasansweat: which window manager are you thinking about here?
[12:35] <kasansweat> ziroday - something more minimal, xfce or flux.
[12:36] <ziroday> kasansweat: have you tried asking in #xubuntu or the projects respective rooms?
[12:36] <kasansweat> ziroday - not yet. I am interesting in figuring out how Gnome automatically "knows" how to do this where the others dont.
[12:37] <ziroday> kasansweat: ah, well I am not familiar with xfce or fluxbox sorry, all I can recommend you do is ask in the projects respective rooms about the dual screens :)
[12:38] <Ujjwol> jrib, any updates on howto
[12:38] <kasansweat> ziroday - aha, thanks anyway, I'll poke around and see what i can find.
[12:38] <steveccc> can anyone help me please on the best way to encrypt a whole disk
[12:38] <jrib> Ujjwol: what does 'apt-cache policy gdm' return?
[12:38] <fiyawerx> dr_willis, hmm, think ive narrowed it down a little. It appears its just ctrl-numpad that isn't working
[12:38] <Ujjwol> jrib, it's empty
[12:38] <Ujjwol> just display nothing
[12:39] <jrib> Ujjwol: that's not possible, there has to be output.  The command is: apt-cache policy gdm
[12:39] <Ujjwol> yes
[12:40] <cokerja> halo????
[12:40] <dulak> that can't return empty, even if a package isn't installed it will show the package and just not show it installed
[12:40] <LjL> Ujjwol: ok, so let's try "apt-cache policy sdf", that will definitely display something
[12:40] <cokerja> ngemengepe seh lo???
[12:41] <LjL> !en | cokerja
[12:41] <Pici> !id | cokerja
[12:41] <Ujjwol> Lij now i have to go u know power problem in india
[12:41] <cokerja> emboh lah...........
[12:41] <pawan> hi
[12:42] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[12:42] <ziroday> pawan: end of the month
[12:42] <cokerja> htjrth
[12:42] <cokerja> rthrer
[12:42] <Pici> pawan: October 30th
[12:42] <cokerja> herhr
[12:42] <cokerja> thrth
[12:42] <cokerja> rthwr
[12:42] <cokerja> thwrtj
[12:42] <FloodBot1> cokerja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <pawan> surely
[12:43] <Lovok> I am working on my Conky rc, and I am getting "permission denied" for statfs ; any ideas what I should do?
[12:43] <FloodBot1> cokerja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <Lovok> bump :﻿ I am working on my Conky rc, and I am getting "permission denied" for statfs ; any ideas what I should do?
[12:45] <Pici> Lovok: Where are you trying to edit it?
[12:46] <Lovok> ﻿Pici: off my /home
[12:46] <dr_willis> Lovok,  you mean  your conly config cis having issues with its statfs feature? or are you havingissues Editing the .conkyrc?
[12:47] <Pici> Lovok: Its possible that you've accidentally set ownership to root if you've been using sudo or gksudo on programs that you don't need to use them against.
[12:47] <yaya> i can't extract .tar.bz2 file. why?
[12:47] <Pici> yaya: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2
[12:47] <intan> yudj6yj
[12:47] <Lovok> dr_﻿willis: when I run my .conkyrc (located in /home), I get "Conky: statfs '/dev/Jupiter/Ganymede': Permission denied"
[12:47] <intan> 78jft7j
[12:48] <humbolt> does anybody know, where and when mark shuttelworth will next be speaking publicly?
[12:48] <Pici> Lovok: Sorry, I misunderstood the question.
[12:48] <Lovok> ﻿Pici: No problem :) I might not have been clear enough
[12:48] <ikonia> humbolt check the fridge calander, bit off topic for this channel
[12:49] <Lovok> Should I run my conky using gksudo ?
[12:49] <Pici> Lovok: no.
[12:49] <paul68> Pici: parently everybody is still asleep in the server channel
[12:50] <ikonia> paul68: I'm awake
[12:50] <ikonia> paul68: try waiting longer than 60 seconds for a rezsponse
[12:50] <ikonia> response
[12:51] <paul68> ikonia: understood but was kicked out from the chanel that's why I had to reask my question
[12:51] <Lovok> Any ideas on how I can circumvent the permission issue?
[12:52] <ikonia> Lovok what permissions issue
[12:52] <Lovok> ikonia: ﻿when I run my .conkyrc (located in /home), I get "Conky: statfs '/dev/Jupiter/Ganymede': Permission denied"
[12:52] <dr_willis> Lovok,  hmm.. either you are doing somthign weird.. or thats a very odd /dev/SOMTHING/SOMTHING name... normally it wants a Mount Point
[12:53]  * Elektrikz rr -.-
[12:53] <ikonia> Lovok thats a device file system, what is /dev/Jupiter/Ganymede
[12:53] <Lovok> ﻿ikonia: It is my partition for (i think) home, using LVM
[12:54] <ikonia> Lovok ok - so it should be monitoring where its mounted, not the device file, look at your conky config
[12:54] <dulak> Lovok: use /home not the /dev
[12:54] <Lovok> Alright, thanks guys :) Will do
[12:55] <dr_willis> Lovok,  which is to say.. it wants a mount point. :)
[12:56] <lucax> how do i configure pidgin auto response when im away?
[12:56] <sleven> how do i make the files on the desktop sort themselves in rows?
[12:56] <jbroome_> how do i find answers for myself?
[12:56] <lucax> ask here
[12:58] <kiamo> hi
[12:58] <lucax> hi kiamo
[12:59] <kiamo> how do i determine what device my cf card reader is? so i can mount it
[12:59] <kiamo> im running ubuntu server
[13:00] <lucax> fs -l
[13:01] <cambridgecow> does anybody know if canonical provides developer support?
[13:01] <rski> how do you mean
[13:01] <kiamo> it says "fs command not found, you can get it by sudo apt get etc. then when i apt get it it says it cant find it..
[13:01] <kiamo> nm i mispelled it lol
[13:01] <Ethos> noob
[13:02] <dimebar> am running into problems with the wifi (Atheros AR5001X) on this laptop: it says the driver is active in the 'Hardware Drivers' window but nothing shows up in iwconfig
[13:02] <Hilton> Okay so, yesterday I install Ubuntu 7.04 mistakenly thinking it was the latest. My bad.
[13:02] <jbroome_> oops
[13:02] <Hilton> Today I get 8.04 (didn't feel like using an RC), burn it, try to install.
[13:03] <rski> 6months release scheduele proving to be rapid
[13:03] <rski> yet again.
[13:03] <ziroday> cambridgecow: what do you mean?
[13:03] <jbroome_> Hilton: the final is released in 2 days.  probably gonna wish you installed intrepid
[13:03] <Hilton> Every time Ubuntu tries to start, it freezes up - the bouncing bar stops at some point (different every time) and just stays there forever. Nothing else happens - I let it run for 15 minutes one of the times.
[13:04] <Hilton> This includes the Try Live and Install options.
[13:04] <kiamo> lucax: whats fs? iv installed it but it says unrecognized operation "-l"
[13:04] <Hilton> Did a Check for CD Defects, it says errors found in 6 files ... on an ISO I just downloaded direct from ubuntu.com and burned to a fresh CD?
[13:05] <ikonia> Hilton check the checksum on th image so you nkow if the problem is the image or the burn
[13:05] <jbroome_> Hilton: re-download, chck the md5sum and burn it again slower
[13:05] <cambridgecow> ziroday, i'm looking to get some help making debs I have spent some time working with the MOTU's but I'd really rather just pay someone to help me, that way they work around my schedule
[13:05] <jbroome_> !md5 > Hilton
[13:05] <paul68> ikonia if you would be so kind to check the server thanks
[13:05] <ziroday> cambridgecow: I have no idea about that, sorry.
[13:05] <cambridgecow> no problem, I emailed canonical and I expect they will get back to me sooner or later
[13:07] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, is thar for an opensource app ?
[13:07] <Hilton> jbroome_: Perhaps I should wait until the final is released before I play around any more. It's going to be 2 days before I get to actually play with the OS anyway.
[13:07] <cambridgecow> yes
[13:08] <GleepGlop> curious, i've had to compile a kernel module for an onboard nic, will I have recompile the module and insmod and depmod -a every time I update the kernel?
[13:08] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, buf you just need working .debs, or plan to have them include on the official repositories ?
[13:08] <jbroome_> Hilton: you can download and install now to beat the rush.  if you keep the machine updated with apt-get dist-upgrade it'll be the same as if you downloaded on release day
[13:08] <joaopinto> including on the repositories is a stricter process :\
[13:08] <kiamo> how do i determine what device to mount to access my cf card reader?
[13:08] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, i don't anticipate that they will ever be in the repos, but i want to make sure they are correctly built debs... I'm going to be shipping them as part of a suite of applications we're selling
[13:09] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, so they need to be professional quality
[13:09] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, you can also try requesting at getdeb
[13:09] <cambridgecow> what is getdeb?
[13:09] <lukasthum> kp
[13:09] <lukasthum> who is german in here?
[13:10] <lukasthum> g
[13:10] <lukasthum> e
[13:10] <lukasthum> r
[13:10] <lukasthum> m
[13:10] <lukasthum> a
[13:10] <FloodBot1> lukasthum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <lukasthum> n
[13:10] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, a software portal for ubuntu, www.getdeb.net
[13:10] <torgrim> fail
[13:10] <ziroday> !de | lukasthum
[13:10] <chombee> If I use the 'Print' function in gedit to print to pdf then it outputs my source code text files all nicely line-wrapped and syntax-highlighted. Does anyone know of a way to do this en-masse, if I have a lot of text files I want to convert to nice PDFs?
[13:10] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, cool thanks I was unaware of getdeb.net
[13:10] <mikebeecham> hi guys...wonder if I can ask a question:  Will Ubuntu 8.10 have greater support for Windows shared folders over a dual boot system, or will SMB be easier to implement.  I have a windows system that I'm thinking about dual booting, but my media center accesses media from windows shared folders over SMB
[13:11] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: you wouldn't use smb to share on a dual boot system
[13:11] <scunizi> chombee, you might be able to use imagemagic and it's convert function
[13:12] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: you'd mount the other partition or drive in Ubuntu
[13:12] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: it's difficult to explain everything in my first post!! :D  I have a mac mini in another room, which utilises SMB to access the media from the PC.  If I turn my pc into a dualboot system I want my media center to be able to access those shares irrespective as to whether I am logged into PC or Linux
[13:12] <Hilton> Did it get really quiet or am I lagged?
[13:13] <dulak> mikebeecham: you can use samba to smb share it from the linux boot
[13:13] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: ahh, I see. I 've never had a problem networking my mac, linux, and windows boxes using samba
[13:13] <pawan> whats samba
[13:14] <mikebeecham> dulak: GleepGlop, can I use samba with IP address....it makes sense to do it this way?
[13:14] <dulak> mikebeecham: what do you mean with ip address?  as in accessing the share by ip?  yes
[13:14] <mikebeecham> I'm using software called Plex, which is a derivative of XBMC
[13:14] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, so I donm't think getdeb will be the best bet for me... the main thing I need built is dc1394 support for the version of gstreamer distributed with hardy, do you think the people at getdeb would know how/want to do that/
[13:14] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: instead of hostname? yes, ip is preferred. If i'm sharing on a LAN I always use statics
[13:15] <dulak> mikebeecham: plex works great with a linux smb share, I have it setup from my file server here at home
[13:15] <tanto_> pici: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 ="cannot open:no such file or directory"
[13:15] <mikebeecham> dulak: YAY...someone who knows what I'm talking about when I say PLEX :D
[13:15] <mikebeecham> I created the mediastream skin, by the way :D
[13:15] <Next1> Is it normal to have unauthenticated apt updates?
[13:15] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to manually update the m4 installation in Heron to 1.4.12, how would I do this from source? I've already got the source tarball to use and already configured it once.
[13:15] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: too bad you have to share to a windows box, because NFS is so much faster.
[13:15] <tparcina> instructions on http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p5 tell me to install cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data but I get message "E: Package cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data has no installation candidate" can you recommend me what to do?
[13:15] <dulak> mikebeecham: very nice, but that skin effs with my playback for some reason
[13:15] <joaopinto> cambridgecow, that would mean changing a core library (gstreamer), we don't do such packaging, stability concerns
[13:16] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: yeah, but I also use Photoshop CS3, which does not work in Ubuntu at present
[13:16] <tparcina> or, if someone can recommend me better instructions how to install print server
[13:16] <dulak> mikebeecham: with that skin enabled, if I FF, audio goes WAY out of sync, it's weird
[13:16] <mikebeecham> dulak: what machine do you use it on?  Mini?
[13:16] <dulak> mikebeecham: yes
[13:16] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: I know, that sucks, maybe one day Adobe will listen
[13:16] <mikebeecham> dulak: new plex release is about to drop...hold yer breath for that resolution!
[13:16] <mikebeecham> I now work with Plex
[13:17] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, well so dc1394 ships with bad10.6 which is the version that ships with hardy... hardy is missing libdc1394-22, also are you sure that the version of dc1394 in the newer version of bad isn't compatible with the current gstreamer-core in hardy?
[13:17] <mikebeecham> GleepGlop: hence why I need dualboot
[13:17] <mikebeecham> to make matters worse, I've just gotten CS4...theres' NO way that's going to run!!
[13:17] <GleepGlop> anyone? custom kernel modules should be recompiled and installed after a kernel update?
[13:17] <cambridgecow> joaopinto, hardy doesn't have libdc1394-22 which is required for dc1394src so its not included with hardy
[13:17] <GleepGlop> mikebeecham: never underestimate the wine community
[13:17] <dulak> mikebeecham: you can even use the same ip, same hostname, and same share/workgroup names between linux boot and windows boot, though it might make more sense to use 2 sources to avoid confusion
[13:18] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to manually update the m4 installation in Heron to 1.4.12, how would I do this from source? I've already got the source tarball to use and already configured it once.
[13:18] <mikebeecham> dulak...might have to hit you up when I dual boot the PC to know how thats done, if thats ok?
[13:18] <ronnie> !m4
[13:18] <Sephiroth> In other words, where would I tell m4 to install to?
[13:18] <Next1> Why do I have pending apt updates that are unauthenticated?
[13:18] <stever> hello, why my gedit is so slow every time?
[13:18] <dulak> mikebeecham: I'm around a lot
[13:18] <jjdiamond> will i be able to upgrade from 8.04LTS to 8.10?
[13:19] <jrib> jjdiamond: yes
[13:19] <mikebeecham> dulak: thanks mate....will wait till 8.10 drops then will d/l and install
[13:19] <jjdiamond> cool.
[13:19] <GleepGlop> stever: launching gedit or just general use is slow?
[13:20] <stever> every time i start gedit with sudo , it is so slowly that will takes more than 5 mins to start, why ? how can do?
[13:20] <domas> why would people strip symbols from packages? :(
[13:20] <GleepGlop> stever: but it starts ok as a regular user?
[13:20] <dulak> domas: symbols only necessary for devel debugging, unstripped binaries take up more space on the drive as well as more ram for no gain in production
[13:20] <mikebeecham> one other question, if I can....how easy will it be to implement dual-screen?  I have an Nvidia card
[13:20] <cambridgecow> stever, have you tried starting it with gksudo/
[13:20] <cambridgecow> ?
[13:20] <domas> dulak: on-disk bit is true, in-memory is false
[13:21] <lucax> domas: if u are using intrepid ibex the same happen to me
[13:21] <dulak> domas: absolutely not, try an unstripped apache and compare ram usage with a stripped version
[13:21] <GleepGlop> stever: I second starting it with gksu
[13:21] <domas> dulak: on the other hand, symbols can be used in daily system administrator work (like oprofile usage :)
[13:21] <cambridgecow> gksu? or gksudo?
[13:21] <cloud-ieee> How can I switch over to a Gui boot in Ubuntu? Right now it is all text at login.
[13:21] <GleepGlop> I always use gksu
[13:21] <domas> dulak: you're probably not seeing the difference between VSIZE and actual memory use :)
[13:22] <domas> dulak: the page is on disk, it doesn't have to be in memory unless referenced
[13:22] <tanto_> cannot extract using tar xjvf, why?
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, did you install the server or desktop client?
[13:22] <stever> just take sudo with gksu?
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, can you start the gui with "startx"
[13:22] <cambridgecow> stever, use gksudo
[13:22] <cloud-ieee> Cambrigde, I installed the client through a network install.
[13:22] <Sephiroth> Where would I tell m4 to install to, so the cli comes up with my version instead of ubuntu's version?
[13:22] <GleepGlop> stever: hit alt+F2: gksu gedit
[13:22] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, but did you install the server or desktop edition?
[13:22] <dulak> domas: again, run apache side by side and get back to me on that ram usage thing
[13:23] <Cephisus> Using 8.04 if I lock the screen I can't unlock it unless I switch user. I get an unknown user in my logs, but the user exists in /etc/passwd
[13:23] <lucax> does any one knoe how to delete the arrow uppon gnome-menu?
[13:23] <KDB9000> hey everyone. I am having some trouble installing 8.10 into my Hardy system after a kernal update (not to Intrepid). I have an install log and it has "Failed to build fglrx-8.542 with DKMS". Any thoughts?
[13:23] <KDB9000> Sorry, 8.10 is the for the ATi Driver
[13:23] <domas> dulak: do you sum up data in top/ps columns too? :-)))))
[13:24] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, are you doing a clean install or an upgrade?
[13:24] <stever> sorry, but it do nothing while i do so
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, I installed the Desktop client
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Should I run this in the terminal? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, what happens when you type: startx
[13:24] <stever> stever: hit alt+F2: gksu gedit.... i did it, but return nothing
[13:24] <cloud-ieee> Cambrigde, currently I am running this command : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, I removed the old version from DKMS so I would say clean. I had an old version for one of my other kernals but it broke after the kernal upgrade.
[13:24] <cambridgecow> cloud-ieee, if you don't have a desktop installed the, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install it for you, but if you installed the desktop edition it should already have been installed
[13:25] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, so you want to upgrade to intrepid/
[13:25] <cambridgecow> ?
[13:25] <domas> dulak: even if those pages would be read into memory, they'd be released after any system work, due to LRU policies ;-)
[13:25] <domas> dulak: and symbol tables have great locality :)
[13:25] <Cephisus> Does anyone have any thoughts about the following: using 8.04 if I lock the screen I can't unlock it unless I switch user. I get an unknown user in my logs, but the user exists in /etc/passwd and it's getting pretty annnoying
[13:25] <domas> dulak: what the heck would apache comparison tell me?
[13:25] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, not right now. Right now I just want to get my ATi card working with direct rendering again.
[13:25] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, the network install gave me the option to install the desktop or the desktop suite. I chose the desktop install. For some reason it lead me to the text interface and not the desktop gui.
[13:26] <benzss> what would you use to transcode .vob to .avi? (xvid or whatever)
[13:26] <chombee> If I installed the cups-pdf package, anyone know how I can print to PDF from the command line, e.g. using lpr? It looks like I need t oset the $PRINTER environment variable, but I don't know what to. The device name of the printer seems to be cups-pdf:/ but that doesn't work
[13:26] <cambridgecow> so I'm not sure what you want to do, why did you want to upgrade to 8.1
[13:26] <cambridgecow> 8.10
[13:26] <jarussi> hi, can anyone help me with instalation of ubuntu 8.04 x64 ?
[13:26] <cambridgecow> jarussi, what is the problem?
[13:26] <cambridgecow> !ask | jarussi
[13:27] <stever> gksu is as slowly as sudo? my god!!
[13:27] <jarussi> sorry =)
[13:27] <stever> who can help me
[13:27] <cambridgecow> stever, do you have the same problem when using sudo with other commands?
[13:28] <stever> no,just gedit
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever try changing your password
[13:28] <stever> sudo gedit is very slowly
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever, never mind
[13:28] <krokodilerian> ok, I was stupid last night to upgrade to interpid and seems like that they killed xserver-xgl from it. My problem is that now when firefox loads a big page everything just stops for a while, as the X server is eating all the CPU possible and everything else is waiting (that wasn't happening with xgl). I'm using nvidia, compiz, x86_64 machine, any ideas ot should I open a bug in launchpad?
[13:28] <stever> chang my root passwd?
[13:28] <LjL> !intrepid | krokodilerian
[13:28] <cambridgecow> stever, you shouldn't have a root password only a userpassword
[13:28] <LjL> !root | stever
[13:28] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, one, it isn't fully released and isn't fully released till the 31 of this month plus I already have 8.04 and haven't seen the upgrade button yet, second, it won't solve my problem, I will still need to install the ATi drivers.
[13:29] <nurv101> hey
[13:29] <dulak> domas: I have seen the differences in real ram usage from stripped apache vs. non-stripped.  You can argue it all you like, but I have SEEN it. Whether it's an issue with apache specifically or symbols, I don't care, I just know my servers run leaner if I strip.
[13:29] <jarussi> i've instaled it on a particion of my hd, c: - formated the particion and stuff .. created the swap, and the / particion too .. installed and when I restarte, gets te DISK BOOT FAILURE thing .. anyone knows what it can be?
[13:29] <nurv101> does any one here have problems connecting to an wpa protected network using ipw2100?
[13:29] <domas> dulak: how do you see 'real ram usage'?
[13:29] <dulak> domas: also, imo if you are to the point where you need symbols, you are probably already gonna be rolling your own packages for production
[13:29] <Sephiroth> Where is Ubuntu's m4 1.4.10 package installed to?
[13:30] <ronnie> dulak: just used the top command
[13:30] <domas> dulak: oh, we have all custom packages for our site ;-)
[13:30] <calvino> stever, thats a known bug of sudo
[13:30] <domas> dulak: but here I'm deploying my private server :)
[13:30] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, right above you said "hey everyone. I am having some trouble installing 8.10 into my Hardy system after a kernal update (not to Intrepid)" I have no clue what you are trying to do b/c 8.10 is INTREPID
[13:30] <schoft> hey anyone fimilair with airodump
[13:30] <jjdiamond> is there an app for network file sharing?
[13:30] <domas> dulak: anyway, there's no good tool telling how much memory does stuff like apache use
[13:30] <cambridgecow> stever, looking around on the forums its looks like most people have been able to fix this problem by doing a clean re-install
[13:30] <schoft> yes, jjdiamond, try konqueror
[13:31] <cloud-ieee> Cambridge, I found this....apt-get install gnome-core
[13:31] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, and then i send another message clearing that up, saying 8.10 for the ATi driver
[13:31] <jjdiamond> schoft thanks.
[13:31] <stever> re-install what? gedit?
[13:31] <domas> dulak: so I have no idea how you could get the 'leaner' thing ;-)
[13:31] <angryuser> join #bash
[13:31] <cloud-ieee> I think this is what I need. Thank you for your assistance!
[13:31] <schoft> Uhm, anyone familiar with airodump ?
[13:31] <schoft> i can't get it to work
[13:31] <jjdiamond> schoft, konqueror is a web browser, no?
[13:31] <schoft> no,
[13:32] <cambridgecow> stever, which luckily only takes about 30 minutes, plus if you have a /home partition you won't lose your data
[13:32] <schoft> file sharing for linux & windows
[13:32] <Kottizen> hello
[13:32] <Kottizen> ubuntu is very nice
[13:32] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, so you want to install the ATI driver in hardy right?
[13:32] <schoft> o wait its a webbrowser aswell
[13:32] <schoft> hehe
[13:32] <cambridgecow> ubottu you are the man!
[13:32] <Kottizen> vad gör alla här inne?
[13:33] <Kottizen> kan någon svara?
[13:33] <ronnie> Kottizen: english plz
[13:33] <jjdiamond> schoft, i don't think i have a K desktop environment.  or do i.....
[13:33] <Kottizen> Ronnie: OK.
[13:33] <Kottizen> Bye :)
[13:33] <cambridgecow> Kottizen, what is your native language
[13:33] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, yes. I know ATi driver 8.10 has a GUI install and used that but I get an error. I also tried building the deb but I get an error.
[13:33] <dulak> domas: VSZ is code+stack+data, and RSS is simply resident in ram right?
[13:33] <schoft> you can get the program by typing this: sudo apt-get install konqueror
[13:33] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, have you tried envy?
[13:33] <Kottizen> cambridgecow: Swedish
[13:33] <cambridgecow> !swedish
[13:34] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, envy?
[13:34] <cambridgecow> !envyng
[13:34] <stever> ok, i will read the guider carefully
[13:34] <cambridgecow> !envy
[13:34] <Kottizen> Ubottu: Can you speak Swedish?
[13:34] <jjdiamond> schoft, i use the add/remove applications manager
[13:34] <LjL> !se | Kottizen
[13:34] <dulak> domas: VSZ gets a big reduction, RSS gets a much smaller reduction
[13:34] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, you can use EnvyNG to install the driver for you
[13:34] <Kottizen> OK. Bye.
[13:34] <stever> besides can i user RTX under ubuntu?
[13:35] <dulak> domas: I have gone from being able to run 300 apache processes to closer to 400 simply stripping binaries on a heavily loaded client's server
[13:35] <domas> dulak: all of those RSS pages are shared...
[13:35] <ronnie> !rtx
[13:35] <stever> use RTX
[13:35] <nevans> question about a version number: 1.3.0~RC1really1.2.0-2ubuntu3 ... what does that mean?  is it 1.3 or 1.2?  :)
[13:35] <cambridgecow> stever, what is rtx?
[13:35] <nevans> that's from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/rubygems ... I'm just looking into certain packages before I upgrade.
[13:35] <stever> because our company use rtx insides
[13:35] <ronnie> can somebody tell me what is rtx
[13:35] <stever> tecent rtx
[13:35] <domas> dulak: simply the fact that you are running 400 apache processes tells something bad about you :(
[13:36] <jrib> nevans: try #ubuntu-motu
[13:36] <nevans> jrib: thanks.  will do.
[13:36] <dulak> domas: as opposed to running what on a web server?
[13:36] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, will it install the ATi drivers or the generic one?
[13:36] <cambridgecow> nevans, that means it is version 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0-2
[13:36] <cambridgecow> KDB9000, it will install the LATEST ATI drivers
[13:36] <domas> dulak: proper apache?! :)
[13:36] <cambridgecow> nevans, that means it is version 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0
[13:37] <dulak> domas: proper apache?
[13:37] <domas> dulak: see, you allocate lots of memory in all other places to idle
[13:37] <nevans> cambridgecow, yeah... but what upstream version does that correspond to?
[13:37] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, I will give it a try and see what I get.
[13:37] <cambridgecow> 1.3.0-RC1really1.2.0
[13:37] <Tobbytus> anyone know if those 3G stuff mentioned in 8.10 release notes. Will I be able to use it with on my kubuntu since it's the same thing or is it for gnome?
[13:37] <domas> dulak: well, reduce blocking. major issue with apache is blocking when writing to user
[13:37] <cambridgecow> the -2ubuntu3 is what is added by the packager
[13:37] <domas> dulak: lingerd + big kernel write queues help a lot
[13:37] <cambridgecow> so check out 1.3.0-RC1
[13:38] <domas> dulak: lots of big sites set maxclients to 50 or so
[13:38] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the Window Manager, the core code is the same, so you will be able to use 3G with Kubuntu if you can use it with Ubuntu, but the GUI will be different
[13:38] <jarussi> ok ... i'll change my question, can anyone help me do a dual-boot?
[13:38] <cambridgecow> !dualboot
[13:38] <dulak> domas: lingerd looks nifty
[13:38] <jarussi> tkz! =)
[13:38] <domas> dulak: of course, it is possible to use squid/etc for client-side serving
[13:38] <cambridgecow> !google
[13:38] <Info73> Erm... I've no idea what to search for. Use !google keyword(s)!
[13:38] <Tobbytus> cambridgecow, how will the gui be diffrent? will it just look uglyer? or?
[13:39] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, Kubuntu is KDE and ubuntu is Gnome
[13:39] <Tobbytus> ok, Thanks for the answer:)
[13:39] <cambridgecow> Tobbytus, I've never used Kubuntu and "Uglier" is a matter of opinion, if you're asking for mine then yes KDE is uglier then gnome
[13:39] <domas> dulak: if you have brave soul, you can set nolinger sockopt inside apache ;-)
[13:40] <domas> thats most efficient :)
[13:40] <domas> just broken clients may be more broken
[13:40] <dulak> domas: lingerd looks like it will make a huge difference, I never heard of it
[13:40] <iyk_iri> has anyone used asterisks on ubuntu
[13:40] <redwhitewaldo>  hi, folks. i can't submit a bug report for "skype" under ubunu ditrubution. it says "There is no package name 'skype' published in Ubuntu"
[13:40] <iyk_iri> ?
[13:40] <zylche> Question: If I install the 8.10 RC, will it update itself to the official release when possible or will it stay with (possibly) outdated code within?
[13:40] <domas> dulak: don't forget to increase write queue, default is tiny :)
[13:40] <stever> no RTX?
[13:40] <domas> dulak: anyway, in any proper performance model, symbols is 0.000001% of cost
[13:40] <jrib> redwhitewaldo: because there isn't a skype package in the ubuntu repositories
[13:41] <domas> dulak: though, if you have them, you can resolve all 99.99999% costs better
[13:41] <schoft> airodump Unsupported hardware link type 803  << anyone familiar with this error
[13:41] <redwhitewaldo> jrib: so what can i do if i think i've found a bug with skype's relationship wiht ubuntu?
[13:41] <geev> hellow friends am looking for you help i installed my usb network card twe444ub using ndiswrapper but it does not to the access point what is help you have
[13:41] <joaopinto> redwhitewaldo, what is exactly the bug ?
[13:42] <neo_chan> I have a question about ubuntu 8.10
[13:42] <redwhitewaldo> joaopinto: terminal says "segmentation fault"
[13:42] <jrib> redwhitewaldo: "skype's relationship"?  what does that mean?  If it's a bug in the package, file it against the place you got the package from (medibuntu)?  If it's a bug with skype, file a bug with skype
[13:42] <geev> hellow friends am looking for you help i installed my usb network card twe444ub using ndiswrapper but it does not associate to the access point what is help you have
[13:42] <neo_chan>  I would like to know 'apt-get update and upgrade'  to 8.10 from 8.04, Can I?
[13:42] <dulak> domas: what are the write queues you are talking about?  a sysctl setting?
[13:42] <jrib> !upgrade > neo_chan
[13:43] <domas> dulak: net.ipv4.tcp_wmem and net.core.wmem_max
[13:43] <redwhitewaldo> jrib: well, by "skype's relationship with ubuntu", i mean that perhaps the problem only arises on ubuntu computers
[13:43] <neo_chan> thank you for jrib. I will look at that.
[13:43] <joaopinto> redwhitewaldo, that is a skype *only* problem you need to report it to the skype company, not to ubuntu
[13:43] <redwhitewaldo> joaopinto: i see.
[13:45] <dulak> domas: thanks for the info, you just made my job so much easier on at least 3 clients
[13:45] <jadams__> I can't log in to my X session because once compiz starts it goes white.  I'd like to disable compiz from starting with X.  How can I do that?  Failsafe GNOME works just fine.
[13:45] <powlr93> Hello?
[13:45] <domas> now you will be able to run 500 apache children! :)
[13:45] <redwhitewaldo> if i install a package that is "static", does that mean that the program is more likely to work? what does "static" mean? Is it preferred to get static packages?
[13:45] <aboSamoor> where can I find a channel for ns2 ?
[13:45] <domas> dulak: there're more tricks around. like kernel-level connection filters, etc
[13:45] <jadams__> I think it's because I just started using Direct Rendering maybe?
[13:45] <cambridgecow>  what is the difference between ssh user@hostname -X  and  ssh user@hostname -Y
[13:46] <domas> cambridgecow: one is -X and other is -Y
[13:46] <frogscott> can someone help me fix video and audio everytime I run a vid in mozilla it closes
[13:46] <powlr93> 안녕하세요?
[13:46] <LjL> !ko | powlr93
[13:46] <cambridgecow> domas, thanks that very helpful....
[13:46] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: it's preferred to get Ubuntu .deb packages from the official repositories
[13:46] <cloud-ieee> I did this command: apt-get install gnome-core, and I am still in text mode. Someone please help me get into gui mode?? :(
[13:47] <dulak> domas: lingerd will make the biggest difference there I think, enough so we can cut back on apache processes and extend the server life, I have been pushing for a new beefier server but this should fix it right up
[13:47] <powlr93> Is it easy to hack ubuntu?
[13:47] <redwhitewaldo> Ljl, yes  i usually do. but one program i need is not in official repos.
[13:47] <LjL> cloud-ieee: gnome-core doesn't install X. why don't you just install "ubuntu-desktop"?
[13:47] <frogscott> powlr93, no it is not easy at all
[13:47] <domas> dulak: you can get more performance with apache2.2 or lighttpd and fastcgi processes too
[13:47] <cambridgecow> does anybody know what the REAL difference between -X and -Y in ssh are?
[13:47] <jrib> powlr93: sure, apt-get source PACKAGE, hack away
[13:47] <domas> dulak: if thats your problem :)
[13:47] <cloud-ieee> LjL, okay I will try that. :)
[13:48] <domas> dulak: we have hundreds of servers with MaxClients 50 here ;-)
[13:48] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: well, a static binary simply means that all (or at least most) of the required libraries are built right into the binary itself. so yes, that will make it more likely to work generally speaking (and also less cooperating with the rest of the system, sometimes)
[13:48] <frogscott> jrib, lol
[13:48] <KDB9000> cambridgecow, well it isn't completely up to date. ATi released 8-10,envy only shows 8-6
[13:48] <dulak> domas: it's just an over loaded box and they won't spring for a second one to distribute the load
[13:49] <domas> dulak: overloaded as in cpu overloaded?
[13:49] <redwhitewaldo> LjL do you think a static deb will fix a "segmentation fault" problem when i use a non-static deb?
[13:49] <opken_> Àú±â¿ä?
[13:49] <cloud-ieee> LjL, ran: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in terminal. Installing now. Thx!
[13:49] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: a static *deb*?
[13:50] <frogscott> can someone help me fix video and audio everytime I run a vid in mozilla it closes
[13:50] <dulak> domas: no cpu is good, it's ram, constantly full, constantly swapping
[13:50] <domas> hehe
[13:50] <domas> hehehe
[13:50] <domas> sadĄ
[13:50] <domas> !
[13:50] <redwhitewaldo> LjL yes, skype-static VS skype
[13:50] <FloodBot1> domas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <domas> sorry! :)
[13:51] <cloud-ieee> At least the bots ask nicely before booting you :p
[13:51] <domas> dulak: slide#13 at http://dammit.lt/tech/velocity-wikipedia-domas-2008.pdf (titled: "don't overload" :)
[13:51] <frogscott> bots dont ask anything
[13:51] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: i suggest you try the Skype from medibuntu instead, if you haven't
[13:51] <domas> cloud-ieee: I think the bot sucks! my both 'hehe' and 'hehehe' had lots and lots of insight in there :)
[13:51] <LjL> !medibuntu | redwhitewaldo
[13:51] <cloud-ieee> bwehehehehe
[13:51] <ashmeetsingh> hey I installed grub in the wrong partition and the file system is now corrupt in that how to rebuild it and uninstall the grub
[13:51] <dulak> domas: I can't force a client to pay for hardware, but it's what I recommend everytime they call me out
[13:52] <redwhitewaldo> LjL i've tried the skype from medibuntu to no avail. Does medibuntu have a static skype?
[13:52] <tparcina> I can't access my_ip_addr:631 CUPS web interface. How to trouble shoot the problem?
[13:52] <dulak> domas: anyway, thanks much for the info, I'm gonna do some reading
[13:52] <ziroday> tparcina: is cups running?
[13:52] <tparcina> ziroday: how to check that?
[13:52] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: yes, it does
[13:52] <LjL> !skype | redwhitewaldo, other alternatives here
[13:53] <ziroday> tparcina: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys status
[13:53] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: anyway yes, a static build is likely to fix the segmentation fault
[13:53] <tparcina> ziroday: it's not running :(
[13:53] <tparcina> root@cisco13:/home/tomo# /etc/init.d/cupsys status
[13:53] <tparcina> Status of Common Unix Printing System: cupsd is not running.
[13:53] <ziroday> tparcina: then you can start it with, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[13:53] <LjL> !pm | ashmeetsingh
[13:53] <Shanix_> hi all, if I have a program that is taking 100% of CPU usage, what kind of debug program/step that I can use to find out what it's doing?
[13:54] <ziroday> Shanix: what program?
[13:54] <LjL> Shanix_: i fear that if the program wasn't compiled with debug symbols, any debugger won't give very meaningful output
[13:54] <cambridgecow> Shanix, what is it?
[13:54] <Shanix_> ziroday, it's a cluster program call fenced
[13:54] <cambridgecow> Shanix, have you tried running the program from the command line?
[13:54] <Shanix_> LjL, and it is not compiled with debug symbol
[13:55] <domas> damn, takes ages to rebuild php5 packages
[13:55] <ziroday> Shanix: you could possibly use strace to see where is gets up to, but I am really not to sure
[13:55] <Shanix_> cambridgecow, it is run the command line
[13:55] <domas> ah, I guess all the tests add up
[13:55] <cambridgecow> Shanix, if there isn't an output to the command line then your stuck up creek
[13:55] <Shanix_> ziroday, done that, but doesn't really tell me anything
[13:55] <Shanix_> um,,,
[13:55] <frogscott> Hi, my video and audio are closing mozilla everytime it runs a video
[13:56] <LjL> Shanix_: i really can't think of anything useful unless you can recompile the program with debug/profile information
[13:56] <ziroday> Shanix: well then I have nothing, all I can recommend is you ask the programs devs
[13:56] <monniewolf> Hi all, I am running Hardy Heron on an Acer TM300. When I updated to the latest headers (2.6.24-21), hibernate stopped working. My computer shows a failed message on trying to wake up from hibernation. It also will not sleep with the lid is closed. Any ideas? I should mention I am a linux newbie
[13:56] <tparcina> ziroday: it doesn't start - here is the data from /var/log/messages - http://pastebin.ca/1238621
[13:57] <CzarAlex> Do I need to restart my server if a new kernel was update was applied?
[13:57] <prasad> hi there
[13:57] <ziroday> tparcina: could you please pastebin at a different site, pastebin.ca doesn't seem to be working
[13:57] <CzarAlex> omg i cant type..really.
[13:57] <rski> CzarAlex: if you want the new kernel to be used then yes
[13:58] <CzarAlex> Thanks rski
[13:58] <domas> dulak: anyway, switching to lighty can save way more resources ;-)
[13:58] <prasad> i need to know bout a free windows emulator 4 ubuntu
[13:58] <rski> prasad: wine
[13:58] <joaopinto> prasad, or use a virtualization software, like virtualbox or vmware
[13:58] <rski> prasad: what windows apps do you need to run?
[13:58] <prasad> how 2 install pl help
[13:59] <rski> ehhh?
[13:59] <prasad> games only
[13:59] <frogscott> Hi, can someone help me make video not crash mozilla?
[13:59] <rski> what games
[13:59] <prasad> exe games
[13:59] <rski> what exe games
[14:00] <tparcina> ziroday: here it is - http://pastebin.com/d230b72a8
[14:00] <jjdiamond> does Terminal Sever Client have a timeout option?  it keeps dropping my commection to VNC on my other machine.
[14:00] <ziroday> tparcina: thanks
[14:00] <prasad> games that r windows applications having extention .exe
[14:00] <rski> prasad: but wich one's ?
[14:00] <prasad> GTA Vice City
[14:00] <Chris_> could someone tell me what the ubuntu equiv of "echo i686-redhat-linux > /etc/rpm/platform" would be?
[14:00] <rski> that works in wine, anything else?
[14:00] <Chris_> to set the package manager to i686
[14:00] <prasad> Cricket etc
[14:01] <ziroday> tparcina: no clue, sorry
[14:01] <tparcina> ziroday: thank you for trying!
[14:01] <ziroday> tparcina: sorry I couldn't help you more :(
[14:01] <prasad> How to install Wine anything better or Wine is the best
[14:01] <frogscott> Hi, can someone help me make video not crash mozilla?
[14:01] <rski> prasad: search for the games you want http://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:01] <pingviller32> I got a "small" problem.. trying to burn an iso while using LiveCD ubuntu. Problem is I managed to eject the ubuntu livecd and now I can't get the cdrom mounted with the empty cdrom to burn. Don't ask why I have to do this, it's a long story, but I really gotta burn an ISO while using LiveCD ubuntu
[14:02] <ziroday> !wine | prasad
[14:02] <rski> prasad: you install wine as any other program in ubuntu, apt-get install wine
[14:02] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype on alsa
[14:02] <jbroome_> pingviller32: do you have enough ram to use the "toram" option when booting the livecd?
[14:02] <pingviller32> jbroome_: I'd think I do, got 4 GB so it really should be enough imo
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <infinite> Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glxls: cannot access /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1: No such file or directory
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype????? on alsa
[14:03] <FloodBot1> ashmeetsingh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <jbroome_> pingviller32: yeah, try that.
[14:03] <prasad> new to ubuntu!
[14:03] <LjL> ashmeetsingh, that's very rude.
[14:04] <jbroome_> ashmeetsingh: my psychic powers seem to be telling me you want to use skype with alsa
[14:04] <LjL> !etiquette > ashmeetsingh    (ashmeetsingh, see the private message from Ubottu)
[14:04] <monniewolf> anyone here have hibernate issues, or running ubuntu on an Acer?
[14:04] <pingviller32> jbroome_: ok, how exactly do I manage to do the toram option?
[14:05] <redwhitewaldo>  i've just installed skype-static from medibuntu repo. now when i type skype-static, terminal says "command not found."
[14:05] <frogscott> I bet no one can fix my mozilla issue..any takers?
[14:05] <LjL> redwhitewaldo: isn't the command still "skype"?
[14:05] <ashmeetsingh> help me plz
[14:05] <redwhitewaldo> LjL i'm not sure
[14:05] <prasad> rski r u there?
[14:05] <redwhitewaldo> i'll try
[14:06] <prasad> new 2 ubuntu
[14:06] <ashmeetsingh> how to configure skype
[14:06] <ashmeetsingh> ????
[14:06] <ashmeetsingh> yah
[14:06] <tparcina> how to check which version of Ubuntu I'm running on server?
[14:06] <GZ_HANG> hello
[14:06] <rski> prasad: yes
[14:06] <genii> tparcina: lsb_release -a
[14:07] <tparcina> genii: thank you!
[14:07] <genii> tparcina: You're welcome
[14:07] <frogscott> Can anyone fix my mozilla issue..any takers?
[14:07] <GZ_HANG> China
[14:07] <redwhitewaldo> Lj you're right.
[14:08] <snowj> yo guys,
[14:08] <snowj> anyone using opera here?
[14:09] <pingviller32> how do you use the "toram" option while booting up the livecd for ubuntu?
[14:09] <prasad> dont know how to install Wine
[14:09] <Caleb|> Hello.  I recently installed ubuntu and then updated my nVidia drivers using the restricted driver.  Now my PS2 mouse is not working.  I can't really use a USB mouse, for some reason it's incredibly choppy and slow, and it also causes my keyboard to be choppy and slow.
[14:09] <monniewolf> prasad: open a terminal window
[14:09] <monniewolf> and type: "apt-get install wine"
[14:09] <monniewolf> you may need to add "sudo" before the command
[14:09] <monniewolf> to run it as root
[14:10] <monniewolf> and it will ask you for your password
[14:10] <iyk_iri> hi all
[14:10] <monniewolf> If I am not mistaken, you will still need a copy of windows to make it run
[14:10] <iyk_iri> i need to get virtual box running but it gives me an error
[14:10] <Caleb|> Is there anyone that can help me?
[14:10] <dulak> wine doesn't require windows
[14:10] <pingviller32> monniewolf: you are mistaken :) wine have no need for windows
[14:10] <monniewolf> ah well, that is even better :)
[14:10] <pingviller32> indeed
[14:11] <iyk_iri> pvt me if u know how to get virtual box working
[14:11] <rski> prasad:  write this in a terminal sudo apt-get install wine and press enter and it will install
[14:11] <jrib> iyk_iri: you need to tell us the error
[14:11] <monniewolf> I have never used it. Yiup prasad, that should do it
[14:11] <mikebeecham> quick question: how easy will it be to implement dual-screen on 8.10?  I have an Nvidia card
[14:11] <prasad> Respected Monni Sir I will join from my Ubuntu machine now now i am working on a windows machine
[14:11] <iyk_iri> it demands a generic dependency apps
[14:12] <iyk_iri> i dont know which to install
[14:12] <Tundrayeti312> Caleb|: For what devices did you install nVidia drivers?
[14:12] <frogscott> Is everyone afraid of Mozilla? Can someone tell me what to install to run videos
[14:12] <monniewolf> I was thinking wine was like vmware, but it isn't. I will have to check it out.
[14:12] <Caleb|> Tundrayeti312: My video card.  Do you want a model number?
[14:12] <thiebaude> !flash
[14:12] <monniewolf> I am still a linux newbie, so my learning curve is steep :)
[14:12] <kiamo> how do i determine what device to mount to access my cf card reader?
[14:13] <frogscott> yes I have flash but it is conflicting or something
[14:13] <jrib> !who | iyk_iri
[14:13] <pingviller32> vmware is a virtualization software, wine simply interpret windows code to make it run under linux (basically something like that)
[14:13] <schoft> can anyone help me with an aircrack problem ?
[14:13] <jrib> iyk_iri: paste the actual error on paste.ubuntu.com and link us
[14:13] <Tundrayeti312> Caleb|: no.  It doesn't make sense that that would cause your issues.  I would roll back the driver and see if that is really where your issues are coming from
[14:14] <iyk_iri> hi all
[14:14] <iyk_iri> did u get ur astheros wireless to work on 8.04
[14:14] <vinoo> can you guys help me? i can't create templates files in my 8.04
[14:14] <iyk_iri> pvt me to help me fix mine
[14:14] <rski> let's hope not _everyone_ responds iyk_iri that would be a lot of spam
[14:14] <Caleb|> Tundrayeti312:  This is the second time I've installed Ubuntu and it's definitely the nVidia driver.  This only happens after I install the driver.  It may have modified xorg.conf
[14:15] <frogscott> flash in mozilla crashing help please
[14:15] <rski> iyk_iri: first try the ubuntu wiki
[14:15] <ikonia> Caleb|: are you usinhg the restricted driver manager
[14:15] <schoft> can anyone help me with an aircrack problem ?
[14:15] <ikonia> Caleb|: or tools like envy
[14:15] <Caleb|> ikonia: Yes.
[14:15] <schoft> allright
[14:15] <thiebaude> frogscott:you using flash 9?
[14:15] <schoft> airodump Unsupported hardware link type 803  << anyone familiar with this error
[14:15] <vinoo> i've already created ~/Templates and put a model.tex file there but it does not  work
[14:15] <jrib> iyk_iri: please stop asking people to private message you, just communicate in the channel
[14:15] <frogscott> thiebaude, no flash 10 from adobe site
[14:15] <iyk_iri> jrib
[14:15] <iyk_iri> ok
[14:15] <thiebaude> k,frogscott
[14:15] <iyk_iri> but to many msgs keep floating
[14:15] <Tundrayeti312> Caleb|: Do you have a backup xorg.conf? Have you tried using that?
[14:15] <iyk_iri> and i am workin on other workspaces
[14:16] <iyk_iri> do u understand
[14:16] <iyk_iri> u cant even solve my problem
[14:16] <Tundrayeti312> !enter|  iyk_iri
[14:16] <iyk_iri> @jrib
[14:16] <jrib> iyk_iri: try to keep your answer on a single line and put the nick of the person you are speaking with in your message.  Did you pastebin the error I asked you for?
[14:16] <Caleb|> Tundrayeti312: No, I don't.  Is there any way to download xorg.conf fresh from Ubuntu, as if I just installed?
[14:16] <ikonia> Caleb|: the nvidia drivers from the restricted drivers shouldn't alter the xorg.conf
[14:16] <jjdiamond> how do i find my netowrk name?
[14:17] <amortvigil> hi did i break my video catd??:S http://paste.ubuntu.com/63625/
[14:17] <erUSUL> jjdiamond: "hostname"
[14:17] <ikonia> Caleb|: be interesting for the purpose of a bug report to do a clean ubuntu install, backup the xorg, install the nvidia drivers then se the differences
[14:17] <Caleb|> ikonia: Will do.
[14:17] <keystr0k> What's the best way (ie. software?) to share a file with a friend... I am looking for a piece of software that lets me directly connect with a friend to share a file.
[14:17] <frogscott> thiebaude, any ideas?
[14:17] <jjdiamond> hmmm
[14:17] <ikonia> Caleb|: be very intersting to see
[14:17] <thiebaude> frogscott:i don't know
[14:17] <iyk_iri> this is wat it says (VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[14:17] <iyk_iri> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).) @jrib
[14:17] <SiON42X> Has anyone ever tried VMWare Converter?
[14:18] <iyk_iri> jrib did u get that?
[14:18] <thiebaude> frogscott:re-install flash
[14:18] <monniewolf> I will try posting in a forum for the hibernation issue in Hardy Heron. I have not found any solutions in an online search yet. Thanks anyway :)
[14:18] <Caleb|> ikonia:  One other thing!  I had to download the nVidia driver from somewhere else because ubuntu got a "Could not retreive" error, so I google'd the filename and found somewhere else that hosted the same .deb
[14:18] <erUSUL> iyk_iri: the error msg says how to correct the problem
[14:18] <ikonia> Caleb ok - there we have it
[14:18] <ikonia> Caleb|: possibly
[14:18] <ikonia> Caleb|: never get debs from anywhere other than the ubuntu repos
[14:18] <frogscott> flash 10 in mozilla crashing help please...I have un/reinstalled different flash versions
[14:18] <iyk_iri> do u think i havnt tried that
[14:19] <Caleb|> ikonia: I think it was hosted on an ubuntu server.
[14:19] <Tundrayeti312> Caleb|:  You can regenerate the xorg.conf file w/ 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', though the post i found said it doesn't work w/ HH, maybe someone can clarify
[14:19] <iyk_iri> i tried installing two latest generic kernels
[14:19] <jjdiamond> trying to setup Network Folder Wizard.  what does MS Windows network drive name mean?
[14:19] <ikonia> Caleb|: well, - lets stop, do a re-isntall, use the proper tools and if they fail we'll fix the tools rather than get the packages from anywhere else
[14:19] <jrib> iyk_iri: That's not what it says.  You need virtualbox-ose-modules-$(uname -r)
[14:19] <ikonia> Caleb|: lets do it properly and see if the problem turns up
[14:19] <Caleb|> ikonia: Will do.
[14:19] <Pede> Do anybody know where I can get a "Radio player" in ubuntu.. (so i can stream Radio over the net)
[14:20] <Caleb|> ikonia: Lemme find my Ubuntu install CD.
[14:20] <erUSUL> iyk_iri:  Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules <<<<<
[14:20] <iyk_iri> is that a command to go in a terminal @jrb
[14:20] <ikonia> Caleb I'll be around, so no rush
[14:20] <iyk_iri> i will do that again then erUSUL
[14:20] <jrib> iyk_iri: no.  you can do: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules      It should grab the right package for you
[14:20] <thiebaude> frogscott:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888059
[14:21] <iyk_iri> noted @jrib
[14:21] <Caleb|> ikonia: Alright.  Doing a clean install of ubuntu.\
[14:22] <frogscott> thiebaude, I will check it out
[14:22] <iyk_iri> so how do i get my in built wireless to work... do u know how @ jrib
[14:22] <jrib> !wifi > iyk_iri
[14:22] <thiebaude> ok
[14:22] <|sonic|> is there any official web site for applications that work in Ubuntu ?
[14:23] <|sonic|> free and paid software
[14:23] <iyk_iri> its an atheros AR5700EG
[14:23] <rski> |sonic|: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:23] <rski> |sonic|: winehq.appdb.org and many many others.
[14:23] <|sonic|> tr rski
[14:23] <joaopinto> |sonic|, regarding free software, if it works, it should be on the repositories
[14:23] <mkartic> how to create an apt dvd for my frnd to install packages from? :-\
[14:23] <mikebeecham> dulak: do you have a 'how-to' for the samba setup between Ubuntu and Plex?
[14:23] <pingviller33> ok, tried to start up the LiveCD with the "toram" option, but it failed, so I'd love some help on how to get it running (need to be able to burn an ISO from the livecd-session, don't ask why: long story)
[14:24] <ackbahr> Hi there! I'm trying to share a folder from my Ubuntu account. I managed to set the folder as "shared", but now how do I remotely access it (from Ubuntu or Windows)?
[14:24] <jjdiamond> can anyone help me with KNetAttach
[14:24] <jrib> ackbahr: smb://ip_of_server     in nautilus' location bar
[14:25] <poopuser> hi all i have a question.i am running ubantu in virtualbox.when i exit gui the sreen becoms terrible small.how can i change resolution in non gui enviroment?
[14:25] <Zaqq> can anyone guide me build a front end to my television? 3 must have features -- LIRC, Video
[14:25] <ackbahr> jrib: Thanks!
[14:25] <Zaqq> Audio and torrents
[14:25] <pingviller33> jbroome_: still there?
[14:25] <thiebaude> poopuser:for example i use, xrandr -s 800x600 -r 85
[14:25] <thiebaude> in a terminal
[14:25] <lucax> prasad: wine is the only
[14:26] <Zaqq> i want to build a Media center basically
[14:26] <poopuser> thiebaude: thank you
[14:26] <thiebaude> yw poopuser
[14:26] <ackbahr> jrib: Doesn't do anything, though....
[14:26] <thiebaude> !xrandr
[14:27] <pingviller33> ok, tried to start up the LiveCD with the "toram" option, but it failed, so I'd love some help on how to get it running (need to be able to burn an ISO from the livecd-session, don't ask why: long story)
[14:27] <jrib> ackbahr: did you get errors when you tried to share the folder?
[14:27] <pingviller33> the other option is to force eject the livecd and then mounting it again with an empty cdrom in order to burn it if that's possible.
[14:28] <ackbahr> jrib: No, but not really what I expected either (the explanations I had were oldish, in fact : http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/)
[14:28] <poopuser> ah  xrandr is related to X and i nead to change terminal resolution
[14:28] <ackbahr> jrib: Oops, wait til I read the end of the page.... :D
[14:28] <jarussi> hi, here is the problem... i have one hd with 2 partition, c with windows and d with documents. when i formated c to install ubuntu, it changed the d: to c: and now, i can reboot the pc, because it will first read c:, that doesn't have anything .. i tried to change bios, but don't have anything, anyone can help me?
[14:28] <jrib> ackbahr: you just need to right click on a folder and go to "share" now
[14:29] <ikonia> jarussi not sure how thats anything to do with ubuntu
[14:29] <Deves> hi all just upgraded to 8.10 and when I boot up the boot screen locks up until I press esc anyone know any fixes oh and im on a hpdv6700
[14:29] <ikonia> "ibex > Deves
[14:29] <ikonia> !ibex > Deves
[14:29] <jarussi> maybe on the ubuntu test system i can change something ...
[14:30] <ikonia> jarussi nope, the boot order is the bios
[14:30] <ackbahr> jrib: Yep, but I can't see the share folder(s) from my other computer.
[14:31] <jrib> ackbahr: you got the ip of your server using 'ifconfig'?
[14:31] <BadServo> Can anyone take amoment to assist me with debmirroring a ppa?
[14:31] <ackbahr> jrib: No, but I'm sure I'm hitting the server (I'm VNCing it at the same time)
[14:32] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: are you able to install ubuntu?
[14:32] <redwhitewaldo> to those who have skype installed, can you post a screenshot of your main skype window, please? i want to see how my static-skype compares
[14:32] <jrib> ackbahr: you're using the local ip though?  Or trying to get in through a router?
[14:32] <_moro_bana_> electronics
[14:32] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: i can install ... but i can finish after the reboot thing, it reads my documents only, no os files
[14:32] <ackbahr> Through a router, but DMZ is set properly (VNC and FTP can perfectly get through)
[14:33] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: didnt you overwrite your os files?
[14:33] <ackbahr> jrib: Sorry, forgot to address this sentence to you. "Through a router, but DMZ is set properly (VNC and FTP can perfectly get through)"
[14:34] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: no ... i formated the old c: that had windows ... now i dont have any OS and the documents partition is now my main partition and i can't change that!
[14:34] <sleven> how do i unzip and untar files from the terminal?
[14:34] <prasad> downloading a package reqired for chatting there on the ubuntu machine
[14:34] <jrib> ackbahr: never connected to samba over the internet, so not sure if you need to do something special
[14:34] <troal01> Is there any way to extract the files from a deb package?
[14:35] <BadServo> sleven:  tar -xzvf <filesname>
[14:35] <mr> Hi
[14:35] <Andy80> hi
[14:35] <jrib> ackbahr: if you just want to be able to copy some files you could copy over ssh though
[14:35] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: I think you should install ubuntu before you worry about which partition is the main one.  (I don't really know what it is for a partition to be the "main" one anyway)
[14:35] <prasad> rski it is sayiong that some file can not be locked. what is that?
[14:35] <mr> I updated ubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 8.10
[14:35] <Guest23386> but my screen resolution is too bad
[14:35] <pingviller33> when running openssh-server while running LiveCD ubuntu. what's the default password and user name used in order to gain access?
[14:35] <Andy80> what's happening to ubuntu.com website? all links in the home page redirect to www.ubuntu.com :S
[14:36] <Guest23386> my video card is Ati HD 3200
[14:36] <Guest23386> I couldn't change resolution
[14:36] <schoft> airodump: Unsupported hardware link type 803  << when i try /airodump <interface>... etc
[14:36] <musictoto> Andy80: that's not happinging with me
[14:36] <Deves> anyone know any fixes to the boot problem on 8.10 were you have to press esc to proceed
[14:37] <danbh_intrepid> !ibex > Guest23386
[14:37] <ackbahr> jrib: Yep, but the client is not always Linux.... Do you know of a simple FTP server for Ubuntu (working a bit like Filezilla Server, where I can simply set up accounts with passwords and tell where this or that account connects in my computer)?
[14:37] <Guest23386> thanks
[14:37] <skorasaurus> hey, how do i ensure that when I install a program from src, that it does not interrupt or overwrite with another older version, already installed (via aptitude)
[14:37] <schoft> airodump: Unsupported hardware link type 803  << when i try /airodump <interface>... etc
[14:37] <ikonia> skorasaurus i fyou can't manage it, you really shouldn'ty
[14:37] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: ok ... i'll reinstall ubuntu ..
[14:37] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what are you looking to install?
[14:37] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: wait, why are you REinstalling?
[14:38] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i'd like to relearn how.
[14:38] <supermaku> anyone have problems with 8.10 and nvidia graphics card?  I was running ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop with a nvidia geoforce 400 and it was using the nvidia proprietary drivers, but now that I've upgraded to 8.10, it's not looking for or using them anymore.  My resolution is fine on my laptop, but when I plugin an external LCD projector the screen is all garbled with little boxes. Anyone seen this?
[14:38] <ikonia> !ibex >sup
[14:38] <ikonia> !ibex > supermaku
[14:38] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what are you trying to isntall
[14:38] <Andy80> musictoto: try this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.10-desktop and tell me if it works for you
[14:38] <skorasaurus> ikonia, parted.
[14:38] <BadServo> troal01:  try dpkg --unpack
[14:38] <ikonia> skorasaurus thats packaged in the repo's
[14:38] <ikonia> skorasaurus: there is no reason to build it
[14:38] <skorasaurus> ikonia, it is outdated.
[14:38] <n8tuser> supermaku-> can you try  #ubuntu+1 for 8.10 help please
[14:39] <prasad> rski monni pl help
[14:39] <ikonia> skorasaurus it's reasonable up to date and stable
[14:39] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what featrues are in the later version that you want ?
[14:39] <danbh_intrepid> Andy80: they are probably changing the website, and there are 404s, leading to redirects to the main page.  There is a release in 2 days, so thats my guess
[14:39] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: because i alredy installed ubuntu, and when the computer restarts, it dont enter on te partition i've installed it ... it goes on my documents partition ...
[14:39] <ackbahr> jrib: My brother actually told me "ftp" had grown to be some kind of old fashion swear-word because it lacked encryption, but everything I ever read about ssh seemed so complicated....
[14:39] <jrib> ackbahr: you can copy over ssh using windows or osx.  On windows, just download winscp.  On os-x, you can use fugu.  If you really want to use ftp though, see:
[14:39] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: whats the problem then?
[14:39] <Andy80> danbh_intrepid: ah.... they're changing the website lyout?
[14:39] <musictoto> Andy80: not working, danbh_intrepid is right
[14:39] <jrib> !ftpd | ackbahr
[14:39] <shagrath> heya
[14:40] <skorasaurus> ikonia, it's 1.7.1, the latest stable version of parted is 1.8; released in august 07
[14:40] <shagrath> can anyon help me
[14:40] <supermaku> n8tuser..thanks.  I'll try there.
[14:40] <ikonia> skorasaurus what functions of 1.8 do you want that are not in 1.7.1 ?
[14:40] <shagrath> my wireless isn't workking
[14:40] <shagrath> i have ubuntu 8.10
[14:40] <BadServo> Can anyone take a moment to assist me with debmirroring a ppa?
[14:40] <Guest23386> Anyone help me with Ati HD 3200 graphic card on ubuntu 8.10
[14:40] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: i cant enter the os... it keeps booting on my documents partition, and it can find no os, so it doesn't boot
[14:40] <ikonia> !ibex > shagrath
[14:40] <n8tuser> shagrath-> can you try  #ubuntu+1 for 8.10 help please
[14:40] <ikonia> !ibex > Guest23386
[14:40] <pantsman> ftp is really only worth using for anonymous access
[14:40] <skorasaurus> I think there's a bug in the program, because I'm having difficulty mounting a drive; before filing a bug regarding it, i wanted to go to the newest stable version.
[14:41] <Guest23386> I can't change resolution after update ubuntu from 7.04 to 8.10
[14:41] <ikonia> skorasaurus parted is not a mounted
[14:41] <ackbahr> jrib: I've tried most of them, but was never able to configure them in a simple way.... What's your personal experience in this?
[14:41] <redwhitewaldo> skype users, does your skype (non-static) look like my static-skype? http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4861/screenshotmmmmskypeox2.png
[14:41] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what is the error/problem your getting ?
[14:41] <jrib> ackbahr: I just use ssh
[14:41] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: whats the exact error messages you recieve?
[14:41] <jjdiamond> how do i remove an app using the terminal?
[14:42] <BadServo> jjdiamond:  sudo apt-get remove >package name>
[14:42] <schoft> Guest23386: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[14:42] <Guest23386> but it' only 800x60
[14:42] <Guest23386> no more resolution to change
[14:42] <schoft> i had that aswell
[14:42] <ackbahr> jrib: And do you have some good documentation about it (and can it do remote desktop stuff as well)?
[14:42] <Guest23386> my graphic is Ati HD 3200
[14:43] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: when i boot the pc, if the ubuntu isn't in the drive, it gets the boot disk system error ou boot failure, something like that
[14:43] <ikonia> !ibex | Guest23386
[14:43] <jjdiamond> E: Couldn't find package knetattach
[14:43] <skorasaurus> ikonia: additionally, 1.8.0 made some fixes regarding hfs+
[14:43] <jjdiamond> but it's in my applications dropdown
[14:43] <skorasaurus> which is what i'm working with.
[14:43] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: yeah, I dunno.  Maybe you need to reinstall ubuntu
[14:43] <ikonia> skorasaurus what problem are you having mounting the partition
[14:43] <skorasaurus> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941757
[14:44] <jrib> !ssh > ackbahr
[14:44] <schoft> guest: application -> other > screens & graphics
[14:44] <jrib> !vnc > ackbahr
[14:44] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: ok .. i'll do that ... any advise for the partition things?
[14:44] <jrib> ackbahr: I don't really use vnc much, so I can only point you to the wiki
[14:44] <jjdiamond> BadServo:  i got an error
[14:44] <skorasaurus> I've asked this in this chan as well, and after some help from others, we weren't able to diagnose the problem.
[14:45] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: its very hard, because I can't really tell whats going on.  From what OS are you using IRC now?
[14:45] <skorasaurus> (whether it's a problem with the drive, or it's a problem with parted.
[14:45] <pingviller33> thanks anyway
[14:45] <Guest23386> schoft: after enter screens & graphics and type my password there's nothing happen
[14:45] <schoft> maybe you typed in a wrong passw lol
[14:45] <ikonia> skorasaurus what happens if you just try to mount it with the mount command ?
[14:45] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: i`m on another computer ... on my notebook .. i can't do anything with the other computer
[14:45] <Guest23386> oh no
[14:46] <Guest23386> I'm sure
[14:46] <skorasaurus> ikonia, parted does not detect
[14:46] <skorasaurus> when i list all the drives in parted.
[14:46] <skorasaurus> but it's detected in my dmesg.
[14:46] <ikonia> skorasaurus no - what happens if you just mount it witht he command line - nothing to do with parted
[14:46] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: are you using the livecd when you try to install?
[14:46] <skorasaurus> ikonia: k
[14:46] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i'll get it out and try
[14:47] <jjdiamond> i try to remove an app using the manager and it's not listed.  i tried removing the app though terminal and i get an error.  what gives?
[14:47] <ikonia> jjdiamond what is the app, and what is the command your using to remove
[14:47] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: sorry , but i dont know .. the livecd is the one u can test ubuntu without installing it?
[14:48] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: yeah
[14:48] <jjdiamond> ikonia: knetattach
[14:48] <pantsman> jjdiamond: did you install it using the package manager?
[14:48] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: them i am!
[14:48] <jjdiamond> pantsman: yes
[14:48] <prasad> help on running exe games like Cricket in ubuntu
[14:48] <ikonia> jjdiamond what command to remove
[14:48] <ikonia> prasad: they are windows games
[14:48] <danbh_intrepid> jarussi: well, just start it up then, and ask for help here.  People should be able to give commands that will show whats up with your computer, and help with the partition stuff
[14:48] <jjdiamond> ikonia: ﻿sudo apt-get remove knetattach
[14:49] <prasad> how to run these on ubuntu?
[14:49] <ikonia> jjdiamond: do apt-cache search knetattach
[14:49] <danbh_intrepid> jjdiamond: please pastebin all errors
[14:49] <sleven> how do i unzip and untar files from the terminal?
[14:49] <ikonia> jjdiamond: find out if the package is the correct name
[14:49] <bazhang> !wine | prasad
[14:49] <bazhang> !appdb | prasad check here
[14:49] <jjdiamond> ikonia: nothing
[14:49] <sysh4ck> tar xvf fili.tar
[14:49] <koma_> hi
[14:50] <jarussi> danbh_intrepid: tkz
[14:50] <musictoto> prasad: you can try it with wine or crossover
[14:50] <ikonia> jjdiamond dpkg -l | grep  knet
[14:50] <prasad> new to ubuntu and Linux
[14:50] <ackbahr> jrib: Thanks, I'll go and have a look at this (I was trying to setup gproftpd, but without success)
[14:50] <koma_> just a question, I got problem on installer, hangs after language selection , some trick ?
[14:50] <prasad> Kindly tell step by step
[14:50] <musictoto> prasad: you can also try cedega
[14:50] <jjdiamond> ikonia: nothing again
[14:51] <prasad> want free emulators
[14:51] <ikonia> jjdiamond: looks like it's not installed on your system in the package manager
[14:51] <jrib> ackbahr: the server guide has vsftpd fwiw: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:51] <bazhang> prasad, you need to read that link
[14:51] <ikonia> jjdiamond: how did you install it
[14:51] <squee_> Does anyone know of a good video conferencing application?  If possible I need it to support group chat
[14:51] <musictoto> prasad: wine is best
[14:51] <jjdiamond> ikonia: add/remove
[14:51] <prasad> how to install Wine
[14:51] <ikonia> jjdiamond areyou %100
[14:51] <jrib> !wine > prasad
[14:52] <bazhang> prasad, first check appdb
[14:52] <jjdiamond> ikonia: 100% what?
[14:52] <ikonia> jjdiamond: %100 sure you did it thorugh add/remove
[14:52] <gavi> folks, i fail to mount specific ntfs volume.. ntfs drives have already been mounted but a specif ntfs drive i cannot mount, the message states to run chkdsk /f on windows twice which i did. whats the command to force a volume
[14:52] <ikonia> jjdiamond: as the package manager knows nothing about it
[14:52] <prasad> Kindly help
[14:52] <sleven> how do i unzip and untar files from the terminal?
[14:52] <frogscott> anyone know how to kill Amarok?
[14:52] <bazhang> prasad, first go to that site
[14:52] <ikonia> !info knetattach
[14:52] <skorasaurus> frogscott: use the top command,
[14:52] <jrib> sleven: unzip and tar xf
[14:52] <jjdiamond> ikonia: yes.  i guess it was installed with konqueror?
[14:52] <skorasaurus> then you'll see amarok listed
[14:52] <skorasaurus> press k
[14:53] <ackbahr> jrib: Yes, I'd seen this page before, but I don't understand why you can't just tell it the user "x" with password "y" can connect to /home/z/ and nowhere else?!?
[14:53] <ikonia> jjdiamond what is knetattatch (I'm googlging but a summery would be good)
[14:53] <frogscott> skorasaurus, it is not open it is opening
[14:53] <skorasaurus> and enter in the 4 digit number on the left hand side, that corresponds with amarok.
[14:53] <skorasaurus> frogscott, ?
[14:53] <grobda24> Where can I change the settings for screensaver hacks ? I can see the settings in XML files, but where is the GUI ?
[14:53] <skorasaurus> ikonia, how do I identify the mount point ?
[14:53] <fat_rat> !pl | prasad
[14:53] <frogscott> skorasaurus, skill amarok ot?
[14:53] <ikonia> skorasaurus you can mount it where you want
[14:53] <jjdiamond> ikonia: Reading package lists... Done
[14:53] <jjdiamond> Building dependency tree
[14:53] <jjdiamond> Reading state information... Done
[14:53] <jjdiamond> E: Couldn't find package knetattach
[14:53] <FloodBot1> jjdiamond: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <jjdiamond> oops
[14:54] <ikonia> jjdiamond according to the package maanger that package does not exist in hardy
[14:54] <fat_rat> !enter | jjdiamond
[14:54] <frogscott> skorasaurus, what do you mean top command? I am new to Ubuntu
[14:55] <jjdiamond> ikonia: it's in my applications > internet dropdown and opens the wiazard when i click on it
[14:55] <koma_> just a question, I got problem on installer, hangs after language selection
[14:55] <Larbi129> salut a tous
[14:55] <prasad> how to switch to a private window for chatting
[14:55] <schoft> right click name, open
[14:55] <Larbi129> j desir instaler msn sur ubuntu ,,! KÉLK1 PE MAIDER !,
[14:55] <schoft> open dialog window
[14:55] <ikonia> jjdiamond doesn't look like it was installed via the package manager though
[14:55] <bazhang> !fr | Larbi129
[14:55] <skorasaurus> !top
[14:55] <prasad> rski / monni there?
[14:55] <Tundrayeti312> frogscott: top is a command, that will show you your running processes from a terminal
[14:56] <Larbi129> ok soory
[14:56] <Larbi129> sorry
[14:56] <jjdiamond> ikonia: is it a default?
[14:56] <ikonia> jjdiamond a default what ?
[14:56] <frogscott> Tundrayeti312, thank you
[14:56] <Larbi129> were i can join ubuntu fr ,
[14:56] <LjL> Larbi129: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:56] <jjdiamond> ikonia: one of those apps that you can't remove or something?
[14:57] <bazhang> Larbi129, /j #ubuntu-fr
[14:57] <ikonia> jjdiamond: you may want to check the kde guys in #kubuntu see if it's part of any other package
[14:57] <ikonia> jjdiamond: I don't think it's a "default" as you see it,
[14:57] <musictoto> gavi: what was your question again ?
[14:57] <doggymenz> 2 more days til 8.10 intrepid ibex!!!!!!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAWWWWWWWWWW BABY!!!
[14:57] <LjL> !caps
[14:57] <gavi> folks, i fail to mount specific ntfs volume.. ntfs drives have already been mounted but a specif ntfs drive i cannot mount, the message states to run chkdsk /f on windows twice which i did. whats the command to force a volume
[14:57] <bazhang> doggymenz, please dont
[14:57] <ikonia> doggymenz: we don't need that please.
[14:57] <Machtin> how to upgrade to 8.10? by just editing the sources.list and update/dist-upgrading?
[14:57] <ikonia> !ibex > Machtin
[14:57] <LjL> !upgrade > Machtin    (Machtin, see the private message from Ubottu)
[14:57] <geev> any body knows how to madwifi modules shipped with ubuntu
[14:57] <LjL> !8.10 > Machtin    (Machtin, see the private message from Ubottu)
[14:57] <frogscott> Tundrayeti312, I now have a question I am working on about my mozilla crashing with flash 10 can you help?
[14:57] <jjdiamond> ikonia: thanks.
[14:57] <Machtin> k.
[14:58] <prasad> help on running windows games in ubuntu
[14:58] <ikonia> jjdiamond: seems a bit "specific" so the kde regulars in #kubuntu may find it easier
[14:58] <gavi> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[14:58] <bazhang> prasad, you asked and we told you wine, you need to check the appdb
[14:58] <esox> hello, heavy bugs since the kernel update of today...
[14:58] <ikonia> esox: what sort of bugs
[14:58] <Tundrayeti312> gavi: I have heard of similar issues caused by a windows user still being logged on even through restarted etc... solved by booting back to windows, making sure to log everyone out, then rebooting back to ubuntu
[14:59] <bazhang> prasad, please dont repeat the same questions; go to that site and read if it will run on wine
[14:59] <esox> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/mb236f23 at gdm startup
[14:59] <Larbi129> sorry j trouve pa la room francophone !
[14:59] <gavi> Tundrayeti312, i didnt follow
[14:59] <koma_> someone can help me  please
[14:59] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i did cat /proc/partitions and the partition is not listed
[14:59] <Tundrayeti312> frogscott: no experience there sorry
[14:59] <ikonia> esox I can't understand french
[14:59] <gavi> Tundrayeti312, i shut off the computer before i took out the disk.. also this isnt the primary active partition
[14:59] <bazhang> Larbi129, /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:00] <ikonia> skorasaurus what device is it on ?
[15:00] <sambagirl> would riojamsserver  be like the hostname? i know that riojams.com would be the domain and ftp.riojams.com would be the sub domain but what is the host name? whatever i choose?
[15:00] <esox> ikonia, it says about that gnome-deamon can't be loaded
[15:00] <Tundrayeti312> gavi: ok, im just saying ive seen similar issues solved in that manner
[15:00] <ikonia> esox: I can't see the error details why though
[15:00] <frogscott> Tundrayeti312, all I need to know is if I followed one instruction properly for putting a code into a file I will show u instruct and what I put
[15:00] <musictoto> gavi: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891441
[15:00] <skorasaurus> it's on an external usb connector (it's an ide drive)
[15:00] <ikonia> skorasaurus I mean what /dev device is it on
[15:00] <skorasaurus> ikonia: which is explained in the thread i posted.
[15:00] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what does dmesg show it as
[15:00] <gavi> ill take a look musictoto  and thanks Tundrayeti312
[15:01] <esox> ikonia, is there a way to revers today's update ?
[15:01] <ikonia> esox: boot intot he old kernel
[15:01] <ikonia> esox: it's still installed
[15:01] <graingert> esox: it's fine for me...
[15:01] <graingert> esox: what is wrong with the new kernal?!
[15:02] <esox> ikonia, in fact with the new kernel, I cant evan start a gnome session, those issues are with former kernel wich was working fine before the updates
[15:02] <esox> graingert, when I start gdm http://pastebin.com/mb236f23
[15:02] <fxauto> does ubuntu have any graphical server tools? like to control firewall, ssh/scp/ftp, etc?
[15:02] <skorasaurus> ikonia: dmesg does not list a specific drive, afiak.
[15:02] <ikonia> esox: I can't understand the error messages
[15:02] <ikonia> skorasaurus: it must list a device as you can see dmesg sees it
[15:02] <skorasaurus> this is what dmesg says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941757
[15:02] <musictoto> fxauto: do you want those for an already installed server, or do you want a new server installation
[15:02] <skorasaurus> i can do it again.
[15:03] <frogscott> can someone tell me if I added this code to my sources list in the right place?
[15:03] <esox> ikonia, it says that it cant load gnome settings deamon,
[15:03] <ikonia> skorasaurus dmesg is dynamic I need to know what it says now, not what it says in an old thread
[15:03] <bazhang> frogscott, put in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[15:03] <fxauto> musictoto: new server installation
[15:03] <ikonia> esox it says more than that, the most common cause will be your video card
[15:03] <ikonia> esox: do you have an nvidai/ati card ?
[15:04] <musictoto> fxauto: try www.apachefriends.org
[15:04] <slayton> frogscott, it doesn't matter where you add the line just as long as it is the right syntax
[15:04] <esox> ikonia, I removed nvidia drivers and started with free driver : same thing
[15:04] <fxauto> musictoto: thanks ;-)
[15:04] <ikonia> esox: how did you install the nvidia drivers initially
[15:04] <sambagirl> i have 1 dumb question tho. there is the hostname and there is the domain. well lets say the domain is riojams.com the host name would be like chat.riojams.com or streams.riojams.com or would the hostname be something else? i looked online to read about it but it isnt very clear to me.
[15:04] <musictoto> fxauto: it works like a charm for me, their xampp project
[15:04] <esox> ikonia, with envyng
[15:04] <sambagirl> is like riojamsserver the hostname?
[15:04] <frogscott> slayton, I added it but can u check the sytax against the instruction?
[15:04] <ikonia> skorasaurus: your hostname is your machien name, call it what you want
[15:04] <ikonia> esox: ok, then I think we hve a winner
[15:04] <sambagirl> or is ftp.riojams.com the subdomain and hostname?
[15:05] <esox> ikonia, wich means ? because before the update, everything was ok
[15:05] <sambagirl> is subdomain and hostname the same? but if htat is the case why would i have a riojamsserver ?
[15:05] <slayton> frogscott, just run sudo apt-get update... if it works then the syntax is correct
[15:05] <ikonia> esox: it means the envy setup is broke with the current kernel
[15:05] <ikonia> skorasaurus: the hostname is your machine name
[15:05] <jjdiamond> how do i find the name of my network?
[15:05] <ikonia> skorasaurus: sorry no tyou
[15:05] <esox> ikonia, what can I  do?
[15:05] <ikonia> sambagirl: the hostname is your machine name
[15:05] <sambagirl> ok so lets say sambagirl is the hostname
[15:05] <sambagirl> i get it.
[15:05] <sambagirl> ok ok
[15:05] <sambagirl> that makes sense
[15:05] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <ikonia> esox: first thing I'd do is force the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver
[15:06] <ikonia> esox: see if that gets your gdm loading
[15:06] <frogscott> slayton, ok it worked now problem I am having is mozilla  3.0 with flash 10 is crashing and this was the suppossed fix
[15:06] <sambagirl> so i was right so when i use lets say network neighborhood i can see fooserver as the hostname or lets say sambas_pc aka would be a hostname yes?
[15:06] <skorasaurus> ikonia: np
[15:06] <schoft> Anyone :< Aircrack problems :< unsupported hardware link ??
[15:06] <esox> ikonia, I did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, no improvement
[15:06] <ikonia> sambagirl: it can be
[15:06] <ikonia> esox: that won't do anything
[15:06] <skorasaurus> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1238683
[15:06] <ikonia> esox: xorg is dynamic now
[15:07] <esox> ikonia, what do I do to force vesa =driver ?
[15:07] <VladimirLV> schoft: there is on off site.
[15:07] <ikonia> skorasaurus /dev/sdc
[15:07] <slayton> frogscott all adding the line to your file did is allows apt to see the new repository, if you fix flash then you need to install a new program hosted in that repo
[15:07] <ikonia> esox open your xorg.conf and in your video card section do Driver "vesa"
[15:07] <esox> ikonia, it also says it could be a bonobo issue
[15:07] <esox> ikonia, ok
[15:07] <slayton> frogscott, btw who is hosting this repo? how do you know you can trust them?
[15:07] <skorasaurus> ikonia: is that the mount point ?
[15:08] <logikos> hi, if i open a window to browse a drive or directory and i click view > view as list ... how do i tell it to do that all the time? ... because as soon as i dclick a new folder it switches back to this icon view...
[15:08] <geev> any body knows how to madwifi modules shipped with ubuntu
[15:08] <frogscott> slayton, it is pulse audio
[15:08] <SlimeyPete> !madwifi
[15:08] <Gnea> geev: how to what madwifi modules?
[15:08] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i just did sudo parted /dev/sdc and it just returns me to the prompt
[15:08] <prasad> help on running windows games like Cricket (i.e.)exe applicatioons in ubuntu
[15:08] <Tundrayeti312> !wine > prasad
[15:09] <bazhang> !appdb | prasad visit this site
[15:09] <esox> ikonia, and then I restart gdm ?
[15:09] <frogscott> slayton, basically all my audio and video programs are not working as of yesterday which includes firefox crashing when I open a video
[15:09] <bazhang> prasad, wine questions in #winehq
[15:09] <prasad> site opened
[15:10] <prasad> How to install Wine
[15:10] <Larbi129> FRANÇAIS SIL VOUS PLAIS
[15:10] <jrib> prasad: did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[15:10] <jrib> !fr | Larbi129
[15:10] <slayton> !fr
[15:10] <ikonia> esox restart X
[15:10] <bazhang> Larbi129, /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:10] <ikonia> skorasaurus I keep telling you to stop using parted
[15:10] <genii> Larbi129: Anglais ici exclusive
[15:10] <prasad> should i switch to that room
[15:10] <esox> ikonia, I come back
[15:10] <ikonia> skorasaurus: am I not making that clear ?
[15:10] <jrib> prasad: specifically, this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[15:11] <skorasaurus> ok
[15:11] <zerothis> I finally got a 2nd monitor working, somewhat, using my USB2VGA. But, I have to 'yank' my cursor to change monitors. I cannot drag windows between them. grandr does not see the USB adapter. xrandr only sees the monitor I run it from and does not name the USB adapter (how do I xrandr it specifically?). xorg is manually edited. I have pastebins of everything.
[15:11] <lamthienlong_87> root
[15:11] <slayton> frogscott, just realize that when you allow apt to see other repositories you can really screw up your system.  Maintainers of repositories don't always create proper packages that can really ruin stuff, plus if they want they can insert malicious code into the repo and you would never know
[15:11] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i was not clear on that, it's been a while since i used nix
[15:11] <ikonia> skorasaurus what part of "stop using parted" was I not making clear
[15:11] <musictoto> prasad: http://winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/getting-wine#INSTALLATION-METHODS
[15:11] <ikonia> skorasaurus: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[15:12] <whatvn> ubutu 8.1
[15:12] <frogscott> slayton, can you please please help me to clean this up I cant seem to fix it I'll buy you a beer
[15:12] <whatvn> ubuntu 8.10
[15:12] <ikonia> !ibex > whatvn
[15:12] <ackbahr> So long folks, see you!
[15:13] <skorasaurus> ikonia: i did that, returns me to the prompt, no output
[15:13] <slayton> frogscott, pretty much wait until Intrepid
[15:13] <musictoto> prasad: sorry i was wrong.. it's http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[15:13] <zerothis> !ibex > zerothis
[15:13] <ikonia> skorasaurus: nothing at all
[15:13] <slayton> Everybody has been dealing with FF crashing with flash
[15:13] <ikonia> skorasaurus: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:13] <whatvn> @ubottu: I understand, sorry :D
[15:13] <szczepan> Pa
[15:13] <slayton> frogscott, I think the issues are resolved in Intrepid
[15:14] <slayton> not sure though
[15:14] <ikonia> schmidtm: just want to confirm and be clear on that
[15:14] <slayton> frogscott, I would remove libflashsupport and intall gnash
[15:14] <slayton> that is what I did
[15:14] <frogscott> slayton, when is that coming?
[15:14] <epuck> brb
[15:14] <slayton> firefox crashes some times but not like it did
[15:14] <slayton> frogscott, 2 days
[15:14] <slayton> !intrepid
[15:14] <skorasaurus> yup, nothing, I'm pretty confident I issued it correctly.
[15:15] <ikonia> skorasaurus: no problem, just want to be %100 clear
[15:15] <skorasaurus> i did once, c&p; another manually typed it in
[15:15] <ikonia> skorasaurus: please "ls -la /dev/sdc"
[15:15] <frogscott> slayton, I have gnash installed but i should uninstall libflash?
[15:15] <jean-martin> ikonia,
[15:15] <ikonia> jean-martin: yes ?
[15:15] <drcode> hi all
[15:15] <drcode> I want to install ubuntu without X only console morede any idea?
[15:15] <ikonia> drcode: easy is to install the desktop and disable/remove X
[15:15] <skorasaurus> ikonia: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 32 2008-10-28 10:50 /dev/sdc
[15:15] <drcode> I try to use alternate
[15:15] <ikonia> skorasaurus: is that a /dev/sdc1 too ?
[15:16] <drcode> I mean minimal install
[15:16] <drcode> without all packges
[15:16] <ikonia> drcode: same thing, install ubuntu, remove X
[15:16] <squee_> Does anyone know of a good video conferencing application?  If possible I need it to support group chat
[15:16] <ikonia> drcode: minimal is debatable
[15:16] <drcode> wow
[15:16] <drcode> I see
[15:16] <ikonia> drcode: install ubuntu and remove what you don't want
[15:16] <drcode> whjere I can download it?
[15:16] <skorasaurus> ikonia, i don't understand
[15:16] <frogscott> slayton, i have libflash0c2 and libflash-mozplugin installed... do I get rid of these?
[15:16] <slayton> I would
[15:16] <ikonia> skorasaurus: is there /dev/sdc1
[15:16] <slayton> but listen
[15:17] <jean-martin> its worse, and same error message, this time I copied the fisrt error message :http://pastebin.com/m52349189
[15:17] <drcode> is there such release?
[15:17] <ikonia> drcode: ubuntu.com
[15:17] <skorasaurus> ikonia: I did  sudo ls -la /dev/sdc1 and it said there's no such file or directory
[15:17] <slayton> frogscott, lots of people have found ways to get flash to work better, most people get it to work differently
[15:17] <drcode>  debatable version?
[15:17] <slayton> frogscott, I don't know the flash issues well enough to provide you with a definitive solution
[15:17] <eightyeight> after i come out of a suspend, networkmanager picks up my last known wireless ap, and connects, but if i want to connect via cat5, it doesn't connect at all. how can i fix this?
[15:17] <ikonia> skorasaurus: ok thats fine, so it looks like that disk does not contain a reable partition table by ubuntu
[15:17] <slayton> frogscott, all I know is that I unintalled all the adobe flash stuff and I'm using gnash and it works pretty good for the most part
[15:17] <pen> does anyone know the channel for gnome-do?
[15:18] <skorasaurus> ikonia: so, does that mean I will be unable to read the data on it ?
[15:18] <eightyeight> this wasn't a problem with gutsy, btw. just hardy
[15:18]  * skorasaurus sighes.
[15:18] <ikonia> skorasaurus: in it's current configuration yes
[15:18] <eightyeight> hopefully it's fixed in intrepid, as this is getting really annoying
[15:18] <skorasaurus> ikonia: is the hard drive dead, or is it just something not supported in the kernel ?
[15:18] <ikonia> skorasaurus: could be either
[15:18] <ikonia> skorasaurus: what is the hard disk, eg: where did it coem from, what was it doing before ?
[15:19]  * skorasaurus doesn't have another comp to try it out on 
[15:19] <frogscott> slayton, thanks I will look for adobe...where do I find out if it isinstalled?
[15:19] <eightyeight> any help with networkmanager?
[15:19] <skorasaurus> it was from my iBook, which suddenly died. it would boot up to even a livecd; after diagnosing the problem on several forums, it was a logic board problem
[15:20] <drcode> Is there version of ubuntu like it was in 7.10 ?
[15:20] <ikonia> drcode: what ?
[15:20] <drcode> with minimum install?
[15:20] <skorasaurus> (i had experienced the exact symptoms 5 months earlier, and had the logic board replaced, this 2nd time around, my applecare had expired.
[15:20] <fwe> eef
[15:20] <ikonia> drcode: there is but it is more straight forward to install ubuntu and remove what you don't want
[15:20] <musictoto> prasad: does it work ?
[15:20] <drcode> I want to save disk
[15:20] <skorasaurus> ikonia: the computer would not even start up at all
[15:20] <ikonia> skorasaurus: ok, so this will have a pre-intel mac disk label
[15:21] <skorasaurus> ikonia: correct.
[15:21] <ikonia> drcode: installing and removing will save disk
[15:21] <drcode> I prefer to install only what I need
[15:21] <skorasaurus> it was from a g4, ppc ibook (circa 2005)
[15:21] <ikonia> skorasaurus: I need to do a little proddingo n that
[15:21] <ikonia> skorasaurus: I'm not %100 up the mac disk labels before the intel era
[15:21] <ed0n0n> i have ubuntu 8.10 and when moving (drag & drop) files with nautilus, it closes the nautilus window and after opens users home dir. Same happens since upgrade in another computer. Do you know why this happens?
[15:21] <ikonia> !ibex > ed0n0n
[15:21] <skorasaurus> I've did a bit of searching on it (on the ubuntu forums) and there is very little information on it.
[15:21] <Sumroad> hey! i need  little help with my wibu installation
[15:21] <skorasaurus> it's still an hfs+ formatted hd
[15:22] <ikonia> skorasaurus: let me find out about the partition table on the macs
[15:22] <genii> squee_: There is an application called AccessGrid which is not an official package but very good for such things as town hall meetings and so on, for which an Ubuntu deb is at http://www.vislab.uq.edu.au/research/accessgrid/software/debian/
[15:22] <skorasaurus> k
[15:22] <Flyboy> hi, I've got a fresh install of Hardy (install from the alt-installer) which i made at the weekend. I did the kernel upgrade today (to 2.6.24.21) but on reboot i get "Error 2: bad file or directory type" from Grub. Rebooting and using the older kernel is fine.
[15:22] <ikonia> skorasaurus: file system should be fine - it's the partition table that may be a problem, or the disk is dead
[15:22] <Flyboy> The kernel files etc all appear to be in the right place. Other people have this problem due to 128-byte and 256-byte inode compatibility issues with Grub and ext3. However, this is a fresh install/fresh disk and i thought the version of grub with Hardy was patched against this. Has anyone else seen this or do you know how to solve it?
[15:22] <skorasaurus> thank you ikonia
[15:22]  * skorasaurus really hopes the disk is not dead
[15:22] <musictoto> skorasaurus: is that hfs+ drive comming from your mac ?
[15:22] <drcode> ikonia:  how it called?
[15:22]  * skorasaurus has most, but not all things backed up
[15:22] <fwe> thdhdthdthtdhthhth
[15:22] <fwe> gwsrgwg
[15:22] <ikonia> Flyboy: what file system are you using for your root file system
[15:22] <fwe> etytyey
[15:22] <Flyboy> ext3
[15:22] <skorasaurus> musictoto: i removed the hard drive from the mac
[15:22] <skorasaurus> but, es
[15:22] <skorasaurus> yes
[15:22] <fwe> pppppppppppppuuussssiiiiiii ggggggggaa
[15:22] <squee_> genii, Thanks alot, i'll look into that
[15:23] <genii> squee_: You're welcome
[15:23] <musictoto> skorasaurus: did you have Journaling enabled on that mac ?
[15:23] <skorasaurus> musictoto, i'm not sure.
[15:24] <musictoto> skorasaurus: because ubuntu can't read from hfs+ drives with journaling enabled... if it was enabled, you have to disable Journaling using a mac computer
[15:24] <skorasaurus> musictoto: it was from a general consumer ibook g4, so i'm not sure if I had configured it or not.
[15:24] <skorasaurus> musictoto: meh.
[15:24] <Flyboy> ikonia: it's ext3 without LVM
[15:25] <ikonia> Flyboy: so how did the file system get the larger block inodes ?
[15:25] <musictoto> skorasaurus: i had the Journaling problem, there's only one way to solve it.
[15:25] <musictoto> skorasaurus: but if it isn't that, i can't help you any further (my knowledge isn't big) :)
[15:25] <skorasaurus> musictoto: which is to disable journaling in mac os x ?
[15:25] <prosoft> Quick question - Does Kkathman still hang around much? Or does he usually just randomly show up..
[15:25] <ikonia> !offtopic | prosoft
[15:25] <musictoto> skorasaurus: to disable journaling in mac osx, you must use 'diskutily'
[15:26] <snowj> hey guys I hope some one can help me with my problem, Im using an external screen with my laptop (dvi), so when I start X I managed via nvidia-settings that the laptop screen gets disabled, and the ext.screen enabled, but since I dont want to chose 1920x1200 (native resolution) I want to stick to a lower one, however the nvidia-settings dont offer the widescreen ones, like 1280x800, and now that Ive chosen 1280x960 everthing (especially
[15:26] <prosoft> Thanks ikonia, sorry!
[15:26] <Flyboy> ikonia, I have no idea... I've just been googling around trying to work out what causes that error. The kernel image files etc all appear to be in the right place and there's no symlinks etc. The inode problem seems to crop up quite a bit but maybe I'm following the wrong path. I thought the version of grub in hardy was patched anyway
[15:26] <mxweas> I just installed ubuntu desktop, when I try to run install build-essential it fails saying the package is not available...
[15:26] <musictoto> skorasaurus: read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2346494
[15:27] <mxweas> Is there something I have to do to get ubuntu to update it's known packages?
[15:27] <Scunizi> mxweas: do all your updates first.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. then try again
[15:27] <genii> mxweas: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:27] <musictoto> skorasaurus:  i'm not sure if your problem is Journaling-related, but it could be if it's a hfs+ drive
[15:27] <mxweas> thx
[15:28] <genii> Scunizi: You think he needs all the updates applied first ?
[15:28] <ikonia> musictoto how would journeling affect a partition table ?
[15:28] <pen> does anyone know the channel for gnome-do?
[15:29] <musictoto> ikonia: i'm not very skilled with ubuntu :) what's a partition table
[15:29] <skorasaurus> musictoto and ikonia: i'm not trying to write to the disk, just read it, so i can copy my data over to my ext3-formatted hd
[15:29] <mxweas> ok one other question, I plan to use this as a server. I was having trouble downloading the server version so I installed the desktop version. Is the only difference a GUI and things like apache, mysql and php in the install menu?
[15:29]  * skorasaurus imagines that ikonia is putting his hands in his face after reading musictoto's response
[15:29] <Pici> pen: Try looking on irc.gimp.net
[15:30]  * musictoto is sorry about that
[15:30] <mikebeecham> thats it...I'm downloading 8.04 and I'm turning my PC into a dual-boot machine...I'm gonna do it...dont no-one try and stop me
[15:30] <mikebeecham> i'm serious...I'll do it
[15:30] <IRWolfie-> Can I install in Ubuntu a second version of ubuntu to another partition
[15:31] <mxweas> anyone?
[15:31] <n8tuser> IRWolfie--> yes, on a separate partition
[15:31] <bazhang> !lamp | mxweas check this
[15:31] <mxweas> I know what lamp is...
[15:31] <bazhang> !dualboot
[15:31] <mndo> hi there!
[15:31] <mikebeecham> should I get 8.04, or get bleeding edge when it's dropped?
[15:31] <bazhang> mikebeecham, ^^
[15:32] <IRWolfie-> yes n8tuser , can i do this not by booting from the cd?
[15:32] <mxweas> I just wanted to know what the server version has that the desktop one does not...
[15:32] <n8tuser> IRWolfie--> yes, use debootstrap
[15:32] <Pici> mxweas: The other difference is that the server version uses a different kernel that doesnt have support for some restricted hardware and does have support for >4gb of ram on 32 bits.
[15:32] <IRWolfie-> ok
[15:32] <mxweas> Pici: damn
[15:32] <mxweas> ok thanks
[15:32] <mxweas> can I switch to that kernel?
[15:32] <mikebeecham> bazhang: I can see you're goading me into doing it...I will, you know!
[15:33] <mndo> i am using hardy and when a do a df -h it tells me that my root partition is using 105G and has 4.2G free out of 115G, is this normal?
[15:33] <logikos> hi, sorry i'm kinda new to linux, i recently instaled ubuntu desktop and i'm trying to play avi and mpg files, it notified me that i didnt have the right codec, so i searched, selected top one, and now the video plays but no audio ... audio from flash apps on webpages work though, and the voluem is up, i asume its a codec issue but not sure ..
[15:33] <Pici> mxweas: Sure.
[15:33] <mxweas> awesome
[15:33] <mxweas> last question, how do I remove the ubuntu loading screen so I can see everything booting up
[15:33] <mxweas> like to check if different services are failing at startup
[15:33] <mxweas> etc.
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !splash | mxweas
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[15:34] <mxweas> sweet
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !bootsplash
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> grr
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[15:34] <mxweas> :P
[15:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !boot
[15:34] <c3be2f5> hey there
[15:35] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: I will have a little look its pretty easy though I just cannot remember the exact line needed for grub
[15:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !ping
[15:35] <mxweas> I found it
[15:35] <Scunizi> mxweas: I had to reboot because of a kernel upgrade.. what are you trying to add to grub?
[15:36] <c3be2f5> does anyone know how i make it possible for my server to have encrypted hard disks and yet be rebootet remotely?
[15:36] <bazhang> Paddy_EIRE, please /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[15:36] <mikebeecham> lol
[15:36] <mxweas> Scunizi: im just trying to remove the ubuntu logo at startup so I can see that all of my services are running
[15:36] <n8tuser> mxweas have these grub options   splash=silent showopts
[15:36] <Scunizi> mxweas: ah
[15:36] <e-frame> IRWolfie-: i'm sure u can
[15:36] <e-frame> ups :p
[15:37] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang: it was not for fun
[15:37] <RingtailedFox> hiya. my friend has a problem. he upgraded ubuntu linux from 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.24-21, and now his sound does not work. he ran ALSA, but now, not even OSS will work.
[15:37] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang: 30 secs lag for some unknown reason
[15:37] <WelshDragon> c3be2f5, not possible, and would be pointless if it was.
[15:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: edit /etc/grub/menu.lst, search for "splash" and replace for "nosplash"
[15:38] <LjL> Paddy_EIRE: the lag was on your end
[15:38] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL yeah I know
[15:38] <RingtailedFox> right now, he's trying pulse audio, but if that fails, what should he do?
[15:38] <mikebeecham> should I get 8.04, or get bleeding edge when it's dropped?
[15:38] <Paddy_EIRE> its back to the normal 0.1s lag again
[15:38] <c3be2f5> WelshDragon: why pointless? if i could input the passphrase via ssh ?
[15:38] <sandbuntu> Hello@all, I've a technical question regarding ubuntu 8.04. Is this the right channel? Sorry if I write slowly, I'am not familiar with IRC
[15:38] <n8tuser> RingtailedFox-> you can try this test    speaker-test
[15:39] <Pici> sandbuntu: Yes, just ask :)
[15:39] <Scunizi> mikebeecham: 8.04 is LTS but 8.10 will supposidly fix a lot of audio/wireless issues..
[15:39] <mikebeecham> Scunizi: I hear talk that 8.10 will also be a little buggy though?
[15:39] <deus> good evening again
[15:39] <Scunizi> mikebeecham: wait until 8.10.1
[15:39] <Paddy_EIRE> mikebeecham: every OS is a little buggy
[15:39] <joaopinto> mikebeecham, not more than 8.04 was :)
[15:40] <mikebeecham> I want Ubuntu NOW, dammit :D
[15:40] <WelshDragon> c3be2f5, If the entire harddrive is encrypted, The pass phrase has to be entered even before the kernel is loaded. So it'd be impossible to enter it over SSH.
[15:40] <Pici> !ot
[15:40] <pantsman> 8.10 isn't that bad, I'm running it on an Eee Box, which I didn't expect to work
[15:40] <mikebeecham> pantsman: I thought it wasn't released for another 2 days?
[15:40] <bazhang> mikebeecham, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[15:40] <mikebeecham> or are you using a beta
[15:40] <c3be2f5> WelshDragon: dammit :) thnx for the insight though
[15:40] <pantsman> mikebeecham: beta
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> mikebeecham: the "Release Candidate" is available
[15:41] <sandbuntu> Well, ok: I've a problem with my SD-Cardreader (Dell D420). It doesn't mount the inserted card. dmesg says:  mmcblk0: error -84 transferring data. The card works in the camera and with windows xp.
[15:41] <mikebeecham> bazhang: sorry...was trying to get correct information on which to make a good decision, thats all
[15:41] <deus> I have a squid proxy machine, a firewall and a single client. The firewall implements a bridge over which all the traffic of the client is tunneled. Now I would like to create an iptable rule in the firewall which redirects the client's web traffic to the squid proxy.
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> mikebeecham: also ubuntu is available for download no matter what stage of development it is in
[15:41] <c3be2f5> WelshDragon: i would have thought that maybe there was a pre-kernel possibility for this
[15:41] <deus> To do this, I tried this rule: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s <ip client> --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <ip proxy>:3128
[15:41] <deus> However this doesn't work. Any ideas on this one?
[15:42] <drcode> in ubuntuyn 7.10 I read this "The absolute minimum Ubuntu installation provides only a command-line interface and installs very few packages"
[15:42] <drcode> is it also in 8.04?
[15:42] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: linux is not windows.... what is the chipset of your card reader?
[15:42] <rski> what's ubuntuyn drcode ?
[15:42] <drcode> ubuntu 7.10
[15:42] <c3be2f5> WelshDragon: i think it would make sense. n.e. way, i will forget about it at once
[15:42] <rski> drcode: you want that?
[15:42] <LjL> drcode: yes, but that's not what you get by installing from the normal Desktop CD
[15:43] <drcode> yes
[15:43] <drcode> but it was nice
[15:43] <rski> then grab the alternative installer and go
[15:43] <RingtailedFox> speaker-test: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:43] <LjL> drcode: you need the Server CD or the Minimal CD
[15:43] <drcode> in 8.04 I get the X
[15:43] <drcode> k
[15:43] <drcode> I will download it
[15:43] <drcode> thanx
[15:43] <Paddy_EIRE> "the" X
[15:43] <LjL> !server > drcode    (drcode, see the private message from Ubottu)
[15:43] <LjL> !minimal > drcode    (drcode, see the private message from Ubottu)
[15:43] <jjdiamond> does anyone use terminal server client?
[15:43] <Pici> !anyone | jjdiamond
[15:44] <sandbuntu> Well I can't answer that question, how do I find out that?
[15:44] <drcode> the ubottu
[15:44] <RingtailedFox> now, this is odd becuase the file is located right in /usr/lib/
[15:45] <Pici> !who
[15:45] <RingtailedFox> so, why does my friend have no sound?
[15:47] <n8tuser> try to run  sudo ldconfig
[15:47] <RingtailedFox> n8tuser: is that at me?
[15:47] <evan_> hey does nv driver work with geforce 8200? and does this still work with radeon: "xmodule=fbdev"  ??
[15:47] <n8tuser> RingtailedFox-> if you dont prefix your response with a nick, its confusing isnt it?
[15:47] <RingtailedFox> yes it is
[15:48] <n8tuser> so learn to do it right
[15:48] <RingtailedFox> o.O
[15:48] <RingtailedFox> no need to get snippy
[15:48] <xukun> hi all. I'm really having hard time to get my sound to work.  I have no sound when I play movie with vlc or even no sound when I play test sound. Any help would very welcome. I tried selecting alsa or pulseaudio in Sound Preferences
[15:48] <RingtailedFox> n8tuser: that still says the same error
[15:48] <bazhang> RingtailedFox, type n8 then hit tab
[15:48] <RingtailedFox> done
[15:48] <n8tuser> not snippy, im letting you taste the medicine :P
[15:48] <sandbuntu> Paddy_EIRE: Well I can't answer that question, how do I find out that?
[15:49] <karab44> How to capture video stream like Fraps ?
[15:49] <karab44> is something familiar ubuntu built in?
[15:49] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: ok.. go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal,  then type; "lspci" minus the quotes
[15:50] <rski> karab44: try xvidcap
[15:50] <justin_> I have a login security question for anyone who feels they can answer it
[15:50] <sandbuntu> Paddy_EIRE: ﻿ SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 18)
[15:50] <Pici> justin_:
[15:50] <Pici> justin_: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[15:51] <musictoto> justin_: ask the question, or we can't say if we know it or not
[15:51] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: once you press enter you will get a load of output possibly... paste that information here http://pastebin.com/  and return the link it generates to me so I can read it.. do not paste the output of lspci here though
[15:51] <sandbuntu> ﻿ Paddy_EIRE: ok
[15:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[15:52] <justin_> Pici:  lol sorry. anyways, I want to create a false admin account, so for instance a unknown user tries to log in. I would want to know if there is a possibility at the login screen that a webcam built in to the laptop could automatically begin recording at logins. If the user tries to login to this false admin account i would want it to save the video feed. So anyone logging into a regular account, would not be saved. Is this possible?
[15:52] <lucax> some one know how to update fonts without restarting the hole computer?
[15:52] <sandbuntu> Paddy_EIRE: http://pastebin.com/m568a5a40
[15:52] <justin_> is an unkown user tries to log into these false admin*
[15:52] <xukun> anybody please who can help me with my sound problem?
[15:52] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: nice one.. just a moment please
[15:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | xukun
[15:53] <joaopinto> lucas2, you do not need to restart the system when you update fonts
[15:53] <lucax> joaopinto: i know, dont remember the command
[15:53] <Pici> justin_: login attempts will logged to /var/log/auth.log
[15:53] <lucax> !fonts
[15:53] <jjdiamond> why does terminal server client timeout?
[15:54] <xukun> Paddy_EIRE, I did that but maybe you missed that and did see it
[15:54] <justin_> Pici:  Yes true, however if they did manage to find out the password I yes would know they logged in however would not know who did it. That is what i am trying to solve, to figure out who exactly logged in under this false admin account.
[15:54] <xukun> hi all. I'm really having hard time to get my sound to work.  I have no sound when I play movie with vlc or even no sound when I play test sound. Any help would very welcome. I tried selecting alsa or pulseaudio in Sound Preferences
[15:54] <lucax> !fonts update
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: read through this forum post which is marked as "Solved" and see if it helps you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644779
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: no fear asking questions if you need a little guidance :)
[15:55] <sandbuntu> Paddy_EIRE: ok thx, I will notify you later
[15:55] <Paddy_EIRE> sandbuntu: ok
[15:56] <Paddy_EIRE> xukun: sorry mate I must have missed that :P
[15:56]  * Paddy_EIRE scrolls back
[15:56] <mxweas> Paddy_EIRE: I can't find /etc/grub/menu.lst
[15:56] <jjdiamond> i guess noone uses tsclient
[15:56] <mxweas> there is no /etc/grub
[15:56] <mxweas> just /etc/grub.d
[15:57] <xukun> Paddy_EIRE, np
[15:57] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: open a terminal window from Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[15:57] <mxweas> it was in /boot/grub :P
[15:57] <mxweas> nvm
[15:57] <mxweas> you said /etc/grub :)
[15:57] <mxweas> thanks
[15:57] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: use the terminal
[15:57] <n8tuser> mxweas-> its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:57] <mxweas> I don't have a gui anymore :P
[15:57] <mxweas> and I was using terminal
[15:57] <Paddy_EIRE> cool good
[15:57] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: ah lol
[15:58] <blackdayz> what command would you use to do a system scan for suid and sgid binaries?
[15:58] <Paddy_EIRE> xukun: ok type in a terminal "alsamixer" minus the quotes and make sure none of the other tracks are muted
[15:59] <Paddy_EIRE> xukun: keep me informed anyway
[15:59] <jrib> blackdayz: checked if 'find' would do the trick?
[15:59] <mxweas> so you know how you can switch consoles by using alt+F1-8 ?
[16:00] <blackdayz> jrgp: yeah
[16:00] <mxweas> my install is going to F7, how do I switch it to F1 ?
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: ctrl+alt+f1
[16:00] <jrib> mxweas: press ctrl-alt-f1... what do you want to do exactly?
[16:00] <mxweas> no I mean at boot :P
[16:00] <blackdayz> jrib: yeah***
[16:00] <mxweas> it auto goes to F7 I want it to automatically go to F1
[16:00] <jrib> mxweas: see the second part of my answer
[16:01] <xukun> Paddy_EIRE, ok
[16:01] <mxweas> jrgp: I want to put a different gui on
[16:01] <mxweas> but it goes on F7
[16:01] <mxweas> and I don't want it to show the gui by default
[16:01] <jrib> mxweas: you aren't really making sense to me
[16:01] <mxweas> ok
[16:01] <m_> hello people
[16:01] <mxweas> control+alt+f7 goes to the GUI right?
[16:01] <m_> ??
[16:01] <m_> >>
[16:02] <mxweas> and control+alt+F1 goes to a console type thing
[16:02] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib:  I think he wants it to boot into another tty other than 7
[16:02] <mxweas> yeah
[16:02] <mxweas> yeah
[16:02] <FloodBot1> mxweas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib: by default that is
[16:02] <karab44> rski: thank You mate
[16:02] <jrib> mxweas: with gdm still running on 7?
[16:02] <mxweas> mhmm
[16:02] <justin_> Pici:  did you understand what i was trying to accomplish
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> justin_: spying are we..?
[16:03] <blackdayz> dont "touch" me "foo"!!
[16:03] <blackdayz> ....o_O
[16:03] <mxweas> I g2g, anything jrib?
[16:04] <jrib> mxweas: nope, chvt is a command that changes the foreground vt.  That may give you some place to start
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: disable gdm from starting ... then just start it manually yourself
[16:04] <heiths_> hey, is there an ubuntu that has "andlinux" like features? in other words... built into windows? I know andlinux is based on ubuntu, but its giving me trouble...
[16:04] <xukun> Paddy_EIRE, I have sound now. I disconnected my usb sound card and reinstalled it, because I there was nothing after I started alsamixer. and know I have sound. Thanks for your help m8
[16:04] <jrib> !wubi | heiths_
[16:04] <justin_> yes lol. If im administering a network, i would prefer to find out whose trying to login as an admin
[16:04] <mxweas> Paddy_EIRE: can I do that with chkconfig?
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> xukun: happy to help.. cool
[16:05] <cjones> i installed ubuntu then added the ubuntu studio desktop package when i upgrade will i get both upgrades?
[16:05] <heiths_> thanks, I noticed that.  but isn't that a dual boot like installer?
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: I am not familiar with chkconfig
[16:05] <joaopinto> cjones, yes
[16:05] <mxweas> chkconfig on redhat distros anyway stops things from starting at startup
[16:05] <heiths_> or can I actually run windows/linux programs side-by-side?
[16:05] <cjones> joaopiinto thanks
[16:05] <deus> I'm trying to build a firewall using iptables. Most stuff works fine but I' m struggling with ftp.
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> mxweas: although to disable gdm that is pretty straight forward http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=disable+gdm&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[16:06] <dulak> deus: ftp is actually 2 ports not just 1
[16:06] <dulak> deus: 20 and 21
[16:06] <deus> here is a snippet of my iptables: http://pastebin.com/d482bc0fe Connecting to the ftp works fine, but I can't list any files or directories
[16:06] <heiths_> I already have ubuntu dual booted on my system, I just want to be able to use ubuntu when I "need" to be in windows
[16:06] <dulak> deus: you need 2 ports for ftp to work, 20 and 21
[16:07] <petererer> or use passive ftp
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> heiths_: then you need a VM mate
[16:07] <deus> dulak: if you look at the snippet: http://pastebin.com/d482bc0fe you can see that I'm allowing those 2 ports
[16:07] <sandbuntu> Paddy_Eire: Sorry, the hint doesn't work. Here is what dmesg says: http://pastebin.com/m12634caa
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !vm | heiths_
[16:07] <mxweas> thanks for all the help everyone
[16:07] <mxweas> I really appreciated it!
[16:07] <mxweas> g2g
[16:08] <deus> any idea how I can support directory listing?
[16:08] <heiths_> have any of you heard of "co-linux"?
[16:08] <ikonia> !offtopic | heiths_
[16:09] <heiths_> sorry, was just trying to illustrate the type of ubuntu solution I was looking for
[16:09] <blackdayz> !help find
[16:09] <Paddy_EIRE> grr disconnected there for a sec
[16:09] <blackdayz> !find
[16:09] <marcoaesis> i have atheros 24xx wireless integrated on my compaq cq60...with ubuntu 8.10 works ?
[16:09] <debmukh50> how can i play wma formats for audacity??
[16:10] <ikonia> !ibex > marcoaesis
[16:10] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I want to install capisuite with "sudo apt-get install capisuite". It then installs all the dependencies for it - also the courier mta (mail transfer agent). How can I install capisuite without the mta ? - I have my own which I want to use instead....
[16:10] <ubuntu_newbie> Hello
[16:10] <deus> I tryed also running modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp but this doesn't help either
[16:10] <blackdayz> !find suid > blackdayz
[16:10] <blackdayz> pft
[16:10] <blackdayz> tease.
[16:10] <ubuntu_newbie> I have a problem, i tried to install kde 4.1 but it didnt install, then i try to uninstall it
[16:11] <debmukh50> ﻿how can i play wma formats in audacity??
[16:11] <joaopinto> Danskmand, sudo apt-get install equivs, use equivs to fake the package installation
[16:11] <joaopinto> !codecs > debmukh50
[16:11] <ubuntu_newbie> and it deleted some gnome files and i cant enter ubuntu, how can i re format the partition i have to install ubuntu again?
[16:11] <blackdayz> !find suid
[16:11] <RonPaul> anyone use TVersity?  is there anything in Ubuntu that could replace TVersity?  I'm trying to stream media over my netork to my playstation.
[16:12] <ubuntu_newbie> I need to know how to reformat an ubuntu partition to reinstall it again
[16:12] <heiths_> ok, here is one more issue I have.  I have a gigabit nic that will only show as 10/100.  From reading through some forums I think it has something to do with its auto negotiations... is there a command I can issue that will make it support the gigabit speeds?
[16:12] <dublpaws> debmukh50: have you checked to see if .wavs play ok?
[16:13] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie:  Use the cd?
[16:13] <Danskmand> joaopinto: So there is no option in apt-get....Thats why I didnt find it ;-)
[16:13] <dug_> debmukh50: audacious is a newer alternative to audacity and xmms, see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590901
[16:13] <heiths_> I got mediatomb steaming to my PS3 on ubuntu flawlessly.  I recommend it.
[16:13] <ubuntu_newbie> can somebody help me?
[16:13] <blackdayz> hahahaha
[16:14] <RonPaul> TX heiths
[16:14] <nothing12345> whats your problem?
[16:14] <blackdayz> # find and !find are two different things
[16:14] <RonPaul> I'll check it
[16:14] <blackdayz> :D
[16:14] <ikonia> blackdayz: can you stop mesing around please.
[16:14] <dug_> ubuntu_newbie: like justin_ said, try the cd installer, it will reformat your partition for you
[16:14] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie:  You can burn the softwre onto a cd and boot from the cd, format an sindtall the partition
[16:15] <justin_> install*
[16:15] <blackdayz> ikonia, yes.
[16:15] <ikonia> thank you
[16:15] <ubuntu_newbie> when i use it formats a new partition, i want to know how to reformat the existing partition it has
[16:17] <Raylz> ubuntu_newbie: do it manually
[16:17] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie:  may i ask why? re-formatting the existing partition is the same as formattinga new partition the same size
[16:17] <ubuntu_newbie> ok, how can u do that? im new to ubuntu
[16:17] <Raylz> ubuntu_newbie: theres an option in the installer of the live cd
[16:18] <Raylz> ubuntu_newbie: when formating choose manually
[16:18] <heiths_> gparted I believe
[16:18] <Shanix_> hi all, what's the best way to read the mail archive? I download them and extract it, it's in txt format now
[16:18] <Shanix_> was in gz format
[16:18] <Shanix_> I would like to read it as if I subscribe the thread
[16:18] <ubuntu_newbie> I found one that says manual, and when i click on it, my ubuntu partition appears
[16:18] <Shanix_> *mailing list
[16:19] <ikonia> Shanix_ it's a text file - nothing more
[16:19] <Shanix_> ikonia, yes, but I want it to looks like a thread
[16:19] <ubuntu_newbie> but i cant format it cause it says " no root file system defined"
[16:19] <ikonia> Shanix_: it's a text file - use some sed foo to format it how you want
[16:19] <Shanix_> ikonia, as if I am reading it from Thunderbird
[16:19] <ikonia> Shanix_: its a text file, it will be read as a text file
[16:19] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie:  I still have to ask the question why you want to format the partition, and not just delete it and create a new one.
[16:20] <Shanix_> no other tool can sorted by the title?
[16:20] <ubuntu_newbie> thats what i want to do, but when i delete it, it says " no root file system defined"
[16:20] <ubuntu_newbie> thats when i click on forward
[16:20] <ikonia> Shanix_: "it's a text file" so what you want is a mail read that will import text files and covnert to a mail format
[16:21] <genii> Shanix_: You could try copy it into /var/mail/<yourusername>
[16:21] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie: when you delete it, there should be an option to create a new root file system. or name it the same thing
[16:21] <ubuntu_newbie> ok
[16:22] <ubuntu_newbie> thanks
[16:22] <zerodevice> hi. does anyone knows how to make ubuntu to enter wpa keys?
[16:22] <justin_> ubuntu_newbie: hopefully if im wrong some one would correct me lol
[16:22] <zerodevice> i read the wifidocs, but it doesnt work
[16:23] <zerodevice> i tried to find the wpa_supplicant.conf but its not there inside the /etc
[16:23] <graingert> http://samphippenisthe.endofinternet.net/0010.jpg
[16:24] <morpheous> anyone use bittorrent ??
[16:24] <justin_> morpheous: Yes
[16:24] <bazhang> graingert, dont post that here
[16:24] <graingert> bazhang: woops wrong tab
[16:25] <graingert> sorry guys!!
[16:25] <justin_> graingert:  lol guessing we dont want to look haha
[16:25] <RonPaul> morpheous I am the one.  give me pills
[16:25] <morpheous> i downloaded bittorrent via package manager and cant find it in menus to add to desktop??
[16:25] <RonPaul> morpheous look in apps/internet...
[16:26] <morpheous> blue or red?
[16:26] <RonPaul> both...that ould be strange
[16:26] <morpheous> did that but to no avail :(
[16:26] <dulak> red, let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes
[16:26] <justin_> morpheous:  It would most likely be accessible when you try to open a torrent file
[16:27] <justin_> morpheous:  however yes, as said it should also be in the menus
[16:27] <RonPaul> Matrix 4: Neo rides the space-time continuim and takes the Red pill...
[16:27] <RonPaul> huh?
[16:27] <RonPaul> ne'er mind
[16:27] <RonPaul> am i talking to myself?  yes you are.
[16:27] <morpheous> ok guys thanks :)
[16:27] <graingert> justin_: you never know
[16:28] <bazhang> RonPaul, please stop
[16:28] <RonPaul> sorry
[16:28] <bendis_vis> RonPaul, Neo is already dead in matrix 3...
[16:28] <justin_> graingert:  I prefer not to look on a school wireless lol
[16:28] <graingert> justin_: hehehe
[16:28] <RonPaul> oh yeah.
[16:28] <Don> how do I find the totally new-guy support room?
[16:29] <justin_> Don:  your her
[16:29] <justin_> here*
[16:29] <Don> so this is it, I guess
[16:29] <dido> hello .what is the difference between Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10?
[16:29] <joaopinto> !intrepid > dido
[16:30] <DivineDelirium> i've a problem with wireless in intrepid if i write ''iwconfig'' it's recognise but if i do ''sudo ifup wlan0'' it say ''Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[16:30] <blekos> hello, could u suggest a good (free) antivirus to install on ubuntu?
[16:30] <bazhang> blekos, clamav
[16:31] <DivineDelirium> blekos linux don't need for antivirus
[16:31] <RingtailedFox> blekos: there's also avast! antivirus (Free for home and personal use)
[16:31] <justin_> ill be back later, have a good day everyone :)
[16:31] <RingtailedFox> and AVG, but yeah... linux only has 50 or so viruses...compared to the 5 trillion for windows :P
[16:31] <bazhang> DivineDelirium, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:31] <DivineDelirium> uff ok
[16:31] <blekos> i know linux doesnt need one, but i'm going to connect to a windows network and need to check my files etc automatically
[16:32] <bazhang> blekos, it is in the repos
[16:32] <blekos> i c
[16:32] <genii> DivineDelirium: Checking suspect Windows files from inside linux is a use of an linux antivirus
[16:32] <blekos> i'll give it a try, do u know if it checks files automatically?
[16:33] <DivineDelirium> genii you are right
[16:33] <DivineDelirium> sorry
[16:34] <fograven> when is Ibex out?
[16:34] <mongolai> can some tell me the difference between linux-headers-(version), and linux-headers-(version)-generic  that seem to be available in the system update today??
[16:34] <genii> fograven: 2 days
[16:34] <Tundrayeti312> !ibex
[16:34] <fograven> when can I get the CD?
[16:34] <kinnaz> right after you dl it and burn it
[16:34] <dido>  i need a book speaking about Ubuntu .the title is the official Ubuntu book.did anyone have this book?
[16:35] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... before i upgrade to interpid, how to make backup hardy heron... pls help
[16:35] <bazhang> !backup | unitedpotsmokers
[16:35] <itsatrick> Has anyone had trouble with CD's in Ubuntu 8.10.  Ubuntu claims that the disc isn't a valid filesystem.
[16:35] <s0u][ight> !hostname
[16:36] <bercik> Hello
[16:36] <unitedpotsmokers> !sbackup
[16:36] <unitedpotsmokers> !universe
[16:36] <unitedpotsmokers> !cloning
[16:36] <bercik> What You suggest? Emerge rc verion now and upgrade after two days (when it release) or wait ?
[16:37] <unitedpotsmokers> i think if u used interpid beta now, it is no problem, just updates the OS
[16:38] <bercik> so there will be no chages beethween rc+update and pure release?
[16:39] <dulak> bercik: there are constant updates but you just update with your package manager
[16:39] <itsatrick> Anyone having trouble with CDs in 8.10?
[16:39] <itsatrick> I'm getting a "wrong fs type" error.
[16:40] <mongolai> itsatrick:  are we talking audio or data CDs?
[16:40] <itsatrick> mongolai: Audio CD's.
[16:40] <mongolai> itsatrick:  can you get ANY audio CD to work?
[16:40] <itsatrick> Nope.  It says that the CD has a wrong fs type.
[16:40] <itsatrick> Maybe it's because Ibex is still beta?
[16:41] <mongolai> itsatrick:  yea, I just realized that was part of your original message...
[16:41] <dido> can any one know how to install new vlc player?
[16:41] <eleutherios> i doubt that...from what i've heard ibex has had very little trouble even in the beta version
[16:41] <Robb_M> itsatrick, are you trying to find ibex support?
[16:41] <itsatrick> Robb_M: Yes.
[16:41] <Robb_M> itsatrick: #ubuntu+1 for ibex support please
[16:41] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, i used acronis true image before, can i used this software to backup ubuntu partition?
[16:42] <mongolai> itsatrick:  one thing I can think of is that certain modern CDs have some data tracks that can confuse some CD players
[16:42] <dulak> I upgraded to it on saturday, been rock solid and no issues for me
[16:42] <blekos> sorry to ask, but is there a real difference between Vista's UAC and ubuntu asking the psswd when installing smg?
[16:42] <Robb_M> blekos: not really..same principle...
[16:42] <ikonia> blekos totally different implimentation
[16:42] <itsatrick> mongolai: So I need to wait 'til Thursday in order for a CD to work?
[16:42] <unitedpotsmokers> i used acronis, using emergency cd... it will make a backup outside OS, i mean not in windows or linux
[16:43] <mongolai> itsatrick:  did you see if this is an issue for ibex?
[16:43] <blekos> what do u mean ikonia, bottom line is that if u know the password you can really mess up your system
[16:43] <mongolai> itsatrick:  rather, are others having a similar issue with ibex
[16:43] <Robb_M> itsatrick: no, it should work right now.....unless your cd md5sum was messed up..but anyways #ubuntu+1 is where you really should go for intrepid ibex support...even burning a cd for it :D
[16:44] <mongolai> can some tell me the difference between linux-headers-(version), and linux-headers-(version)-generic  that seem to be available in the system update today??
[16:44] <itsatrick> Thanks Robb_M and mongolai
[16:44] <mongolai> itsatrick:  good luck
[16:45] <karab4_4> is crossover for free today?
[16:46] <dulak> yes
[16:46] <kitche> mongolai: the linux-headers-(version) is most likely a vanilla setup
[16:46] <dulak> crossover is free today on the lame duck special
[16:46] <karab4_4> why :D
[16:46] <kitche> mongolai: linux-headers-(version)-generic is probably ubuntu's generic headers
[16:46] <Robb_M> anybody else that needs intrepid ibex (ubuntu 8.10) support should go to #ubuntu+1 as this room is NOT the place to get help for it....we can only support Hardy (8.04) and below....its just 2 days people! :D
[16:46] <sandbuntu> Paddy_EIRE: Sorry, your hint didn't work for me. In the meantime I downloaded (svn: ) and compiled an other Ricoh driver, but i doesn't for so far. I searched for some bug reports and I found this: https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=+Ricoh+R5C822 What du you think?
[16:46] <kitche> karab4_4: look up lame duck challenge and you see why
[16:47] <mongolai> kitche:  OK. Thanks. So you're saying that one is ubuntu specific and the other is just the vanilla kernel headers?
[16:49] <Anza> my yahoo account on thunderbird keeps sending the emails incomplete, like just the first line or part of sentence I write, does anyone know how to fix that?
[16:49] <Fiyuri> http://www.clanplanet.de/_sites/index.asp?rn=&clanid=10972
[16:50] <dand> hi
[16:50] <pantsman> hello
[16:50] <dand> does anyone use a canon ip1200 printer on linux?
[16:51] <joshritger> can anybody help me with envy ng and updating the linux-headers? When I update from linux-headers-2.6.24-19 to linux-headers-2.6.24-21 envy ng stops working, any ideas?
[16:51] <metallicaoslorek> does anyone know how to convert png images to svg?
[16:53] <joshritger> can someone help me with envy ng?
[16:54] <otac> Hi
[16:54] <Don> hello
[16:54] <mongolai> joshritger:  I can't really help you with that particular issue since I don't know about envy, but do the headers match the kernel version?
[16:54] <kitche> mongolai: probably
[16:55] <joshritger> mongolai: how do I check that?
[16:55] <KaiForce> Robb_M: Intrepid is going to release in two days?
[16:55] <mongolai> joshritger:  what's the output from uname -r
[16:55] <Anza> how can I know what version of an app I have installed? something I put in a terminal?
[16:55] <qdii> what does "skanks" mean for girls ? my being french ..
[16:56] <elfgoh> Hello, I wish to enquire about ufw. May I know how to disable it permanently?
[16:56] <openforlife> I am having problem with my ubuntu installation in VMWare Fusion. I use an Apple wired keyboard, and the left arrow won't work!
[16:56] <zinake> i'm still pretty new to the whole ubuntu experience, is there normally a bid difference between the .04 and .10 versions?
[16:56] <joshritger> mongolai: 2.6.24-19-generic
[16:56] <genii> Anza: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[16:56] <bazhang> qdii, not here
[16:56] <KaiForce> qdii:  it means oh NM
[16:57] <otac> I am new to ubuntu, and i wonder, is it possible to connect my ubuntu laptop too TV (I apologize my poor english, but hope you understand)?
[16:57] <openforlife> otac: yes that should work.
[16:57] <twizzled> otac does it have tv out
[16:57] <mongolai> is there an entry in /usr/src/2.6.24-19-generic?
[16:57] <ssh_rdp> hey, Is it possible to debootstrap a amd64 from i386 ubuntu? I am trying to test intrepid but debootstrap fails
[16:57] <zinake> otac: you can providing your laptop has proper connections
[16:57] <mongolai> joshritger:  is there a directory /usr/src/2.6.24-19-generic?
[16:57] <kriston> How does one install RealVNC 4.1.3 on Ubuntu 8.04.1?
[16:57] <qdii> c'mon people :)
[16:58] <bazhang> qdii, stop
[16:58] <otac> I connect trought the RPG channel, and when I start the computer it show up on the tv until the login screen
[16:58] <joshritger> mongolai: yes
[16:58] <twizzled> otac is it intel video or nvidia etc ?
[16:58] <openforlife> What is the most likely reason the left arrow on my keyboard doesn
[16:58] <otac> Nvidea
[16:59] <openforlife> doesn't work?
[16:59] <genii> openforlife: Spilled liquid inside
[16:59] <twizzled> do you have the proper drivers installed and the nv tv out ?
[16:59] <openforlife> genii: It works in OS X, just not in ubuntu
[16:59] <yoyoned> openforlife: hardware or wrong keymap
[16:59] <otac> it worked before while I was running windows, but I cant figure out how to do it in ubuntu
[16:59] <joshritger> mongolai: I think i got that wrong, there isn't one for just 2.6.24-19-generic but there is one for linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic
[17:00] <Anza> my yahoo account on thunderbird keeps sending the emails incomplete, like just the first line or part of sentence I write, does anyone know how to fix that?
[17:00] <Dillizar> help i have a virus
[17:00] <twizzled> otac is the restricted driver installed?
[17:00] <mongolai> joshritger:  well, like I said, I'm not too familliar with envy, but it seems that there is a running kernel/header mismatch when you installed the 24-21 headers
[17:00] <openforlife> yoyoned: I have tried different keymaps. And it works fine in OS X. I have set VMWare to do direct transfer of keys, and use the standard Apple keymapping.
[17:00] <twizzled> and in synaptic there is a nvidia tv out package, get it.
[17:00] <bazhang> !virus | Dillizar
[17:00] <andrewneedshelp> hi
[17:00] <joshritger> mongolai: ok, I can run the old one till I upgrade I guess
[17:00] <Dillizar> bazhang: its exe virus
[17:00] <otac> twizzled: all the restricted drivers I can run at once are running
[17:01] <bazhang> Dillizar, this is linux not windows
[17:01] <andrewneedshelp> my wireless mouse and keyboard don't work if i don't use them straight away when ubuntu boots up. help?
[17:01] <twizzled> okay otac get the nvidia tv out package from synaptic package manager and reboot
[17:01] <kane77> how do I convert text files that were created in windows to unix "formating"?
[17:01] <openforlife> Dillizar: .exe viruses are ment for windows. They doesn't work in Ubuntu
[17:01] <unitedpotsmokers> hello my friend.... now im using hardy heron, but i cant wait more, so i need some advise from u my friend.. if i use interpid beta now, then when interpid final release, i need to format and reinstall interpid, or just update the OS? or make a fresh install is better
[17:01] <Dillizar> bazhang: yeah but i have installed a program with wine
[17:02] <otac> ok, I try that, ty :)
[17:02] <kitche> unitedpotsmokers: if you update to interpid now you will most likely have final release
[17:02] <Dillizar> and now its in my processes
[17:02] <bazhang> Dillizar, then install clamav
[17:02] <Frijolie> what's an alternative photo management software in GNOME for f-spot?
[17:02] <Slack> Does anyone here use the logitech v20 usb speakers
[17:02] <petererer> ls
[17:03] <mongolai> joshritger:  there was a new kernel + headers made available today in the system update. I haven't finished installing yet, but I'd bet if you installed the important updated and re-ran envy your issue might clear up. Don't quote me on that though :)
[17:03] <Dillizar> bazhang: what is that
[17:03] <Dillizar> !clamav
[17:03] <joshritger> mongolai: how do I go about insatlling the new kernel, it doesn't come up in the updates
[17:04] <fourmi> erver irc.geeknode.org
[17:04] <joshritger> the header did but not the kernel
[17:04] <geremy> still looking for help with the intel 945's tv out capability- any assistence would be much appreciated
[17:04] <mongolai> joshritger:  do you have automatic updates enabled? it should be one of the updates, as well as the headers...
[17:04] <twizzled> geremy i have a 915 and it sucks
[17:04] <zinake> andrewneedshelp: does your wireless reciever plug into USB?
[17:04] <geremy> twizzled: any luck at all?
[17:04] <joshritger> mongolai: I have auto update on and it just shows me the header update
[17:05] <twizzled> ya but black and white only
[17:05] <twizzled> :\
[17:05] <Dillizar> bazhang: will clamav clean the exe viruses
[17:05] <mongolai> joshritger:  no linux-2.6.21-24-image (or something like that)?
[17:05] <bazhang> Dillizar, install it and try
[17:05] <Dillizar> ok
[17:05] <kriston> How does one install RealVNC 4.1.3 on Ubuntu 8.04.1?  I get missing libraries that I can't find in Synaptic.
[17:05] <unitedpotsmokers> kitche,  sounds great... ok i will install interpid next morning...
[17:05] <twizzled> geremy i got it to work on both, monitor stays color, tv goes B&W
[17:05] <unitedpotsmokers> :) yeay!!!
[17:06] <unitedpotsmokers> kitche, r u using interpid or hardy now?
[17:06] <andrewneedshelp> zinake: yes
[17:06] <joshritger> mongolai: this is what updates came today that I installed b4 the issue Upgraded the following packages:
[17:06] <joshritger> linux-headers-2.6.24-21 (2.6.24-21.42) to 2.6.24-21.43
[17:06] <joshritger> linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic (2.6.24-21.42) to 2.6.24-21.43
[17:06] <joshritger> linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic (2.6.24-21.42) to 2.6.24-21.43
[17:06] <joshritger> linux-libc-dev (2.6.24-21.42) to 2.6.24-21.43
[17:06] <FloodBot1> joshritger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <geremy> twizzled: Ive found a ton of stuff about that, it seems to be working now
[17:07] <zinake> andrewneedshelp: does your mobo support USB on boot?  I've had the same issue on older equipment.
[17:07] <twizzled> geremy cool
[17:07] <Bit_Breaker> andrewneedshelp: i have the same issue on older PCs as well
[17:07] <twizzled> geremy i havn't tried in a while on that either, gave up a while back lol
[17:08] <mongolai> joshritger:  OK. I just got done installing those same files, but there's a reboot pending for my machine...
[17:08] <Bit_Breaker> its a BIOS feature called USB_HDD emulation
[17:08] <geremy> twizzled: here, hold on and I'll pull it up for you, if nothing else itll be good to have around if you ever decide to play with it again
[17:08] <Bit_Breaker> on PCs 5+ yrs old
[17:08] <joshritger> mongolai: ok
[17:09] <twizzled> geremy thanks, well i still use it, and theres still a tv beside it,,,,so i probly will take another go at it
[17:09] <unitedpotsmokers> i used interpid before, but my laptop buzzing when before login ubuntu and make a sound when i shutdown my laptop... is interpid has updates now? i really afraid when hearing my laptop make sound
[17:09] <Don> Is anyone real familiar with running XP in QEMU and the blue screen of death showing up irregularly ?
[17:10] <rblst> kriston: you can use vino or x11vnc as a server, and xvncviewer as a client, you can install them from synaptic
[17:10] <mongolai> joshritger:  I may be having kernel issues of my own here in a minute! I'd re-ask your question about now though since new people are here.
[17:10] <geremy> twizzled: solution is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/109934
[17:10] <twizzled> thganks
[17:11] <kriston> rblst: Thanks, but I want an independent Xvnc running and need to upgrade it to realvnc-4.1.3
[17:11] <Lamo> I'm trying to fix my ssh connection problem by upgrading from 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.24-21 according to synaptic I have linux-headers-2.6.24-21 & l﻿﻿﻿﻿inux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic installed. however only 2.6.24-19 shows up in why boot menu?
[17:12] <gnu> salut
[17:12] <kriston> I guess I'll just symlink to libstdc++ and hope it works.
[17:12] <SuperATP1> anyone know why everytime i browse my linux machine from my windows machine it asks for a login??
[17:12] <slayton> Lamo, what do the linux headers have to do with ssh?
[17:12] <Lamo> I don't know
[17:12] <andrewneedshelp> zinake: no idea
[17:12] <unitedpotsmokers> need your advise...now im using hardy heron, if tomorrow i want to use interpid beta, which better, i make a fresh install, or just upgrade from hardy to interpid beta?
[17:12] <zinake> andrewneedshelp: how old is your system?
[17:13] <joshritger> can anyone help me with envy ng, I had issues when installing the new kernel today
[17:13] <jjdiamond> i have port fowarding set in my router but transmission torrent client says port is closed
[17:13] <Slart> SuperATP1: linux machines assume you want to use your current username when you don't specify another one.. I don't know how windows machine does it
[17:13] <andrewneedshelp> zinake: a few years
[17:13] <SuperATP1> but when i put the username and password for the xubuntu machine is still doesnt work
[17:13] <Lamo> ﻿slayton: someone said the problem was fixed in the latest kernel update "2.6.24-12"
[17:14] <Lamo> oops 2.6.24-21
[17:14] <Slart> SuperATP1: might be a samba config problem.. might be something else.. hard to tell
[17:14] <mongolai> joshritger:  just one last thought, did you reboot the computer after installing the new kernel?
[17:15] <zinake> andrewneedshelp: it's quite possible that it doesn't support USB on boot then...   ﻿"(01:08:10 PM) Bit_Breaker: its a BIOS feature called USB_HDD emulation"... you might want to look in your BIOS to see if it supports that.
[17:15] <Stonekeeper> hi! Anyone have a link on how to setup raid 10 during install?
[17:15] <zinake> SuperATP1: it sounds like SAMBA configuration
[17:15] <joshritger> mongolai: yes I did reboot, I actually did twice, I reverted back to the old kernel so my graphics would work again
[17:15] <execut3> http://down.codeweavers.com/
[17:15] <Lamo> So how can I upgrade my Kernel to 21 from 19?
[17:16] <Slart> !raid | Stonekeeper
[17:16] <mongolai> joshritger:  never mind, then :) I've got to reboot now...
[17:16] <sami> bonjour
[17:16] <rblst>  SuperATP1: in /etc/samba/smb.conf , try to add these settings to your share, if not yet present: available=yes, browsable=yes, pubilc=yes, guest ok=yes
[17:16] <sami> je suis français
[17:17] <Slart> !fr | sami
[17:17] <sami> merci
[17:17] <dxdemetriou> where can I find ubuntu release+1 annoucements? I just want to see if 8.10 is like Edgy after the LTS release
[17:17] <andrewneedshelp> zinake: it works if i use it but if i don't start using it pretty much straight away, neither mouse nor keyboard work
[17:17] <Stonekeeper> ta
[17:17] <ubuntu__> Hy everybody
[17:17] <Slart> dxdemetriou: the ubuntu site I suppose.. but I don't think it's out yet
[17:18] <Slart> dxdemetriou: you could try asking in #ubuntu+1 , that's the channel for intrepid stuff
[17:18] <zinake> andrewneedshelp: sorry, no idea then.  I thought you said you couldn't use it during boot.
[17:18] <ubuntu__> Can I ask a question concerning the beta ubuntu release?
[17:19] <Shanix> ikonia, genii thanks
[17:19] <dxdemetriou> Slack, I know that.. I mean about the annoucements that is decided the name for the +1. I found them before but I can't find them now
[17:19] <rblst> !interpid>ubuntu__
[17:19] <ganymede> hello, is there a way to disconnect and reconnect a USB device remotely, to make the automounted retry to automount the device?
[17:19] <ganymede> i only have ssh access to the machine
[17:20] <geremy> ganymede: what kind of usb device?
[17:21] <dfgas> how do i find out what is using alsa
[17:21] <ganymede> geremy: it's a USB hard disk drive and it is at /dev/sdb. i don't to run eject on it in case i can't reconnect it
[17:22] <geremy> ganymede: why can't just umount it?
[17:23] <fontis> wow
[17:23] <fontis> it feels so good to be back in ubuntu
[17:23] <fontis> i've been away for way too long
[17:23] <ganymede> geremy: i'd like the mounting to be taken care of by the automounter, so when the device is disconnected, the mount directory will be removed so the next time it is plugged in and mounted automatically, there won't be an underscreo appended to the mount location, because that would break symlinks
[17:23] <lbci> atheros 5001x+ chipset... running ibex... after last upgrade NetworkManager doesnt see wireless after reboot
[17:23] <unitedpotsmokers> nobody can help me i think...
[17:23] <ganymede> geremy: it usually mounts to /media/DISK but if i mount if there manually, then next time i plug it in, it will mount to /media/DISK_ since the driectory already exists and that would break symlinks
[17:24] <geremy> ganymede: you're symlinking to a usb hard drive? why not just copy the files over?
[17:24] <armageddon> hey there
[17:24] <lbci> if i go to hardware manager, deactivate driver, reactivate driver and then select configure connections in Network manager then it loads and works? anyone have and idea where its breaking?
[17:25] <ganymede> geremy: because the symlink is into a folder with 500 GB of content, and the laptop hard disk is only 80 GB
[17:25] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:25] <Serraphyn> Is there a way to resize NTFS partitions?
[17:26] <dxdemetriou> anyway, I just to know if 8.10 will be a stable release for production use or if is going to be like edgy that were tried a lot of new features and were recomended to be used by ppl that could find a solutions from problems that might appear
[17:26] <armageddon> Serraphyn: I'm sure there is
[17:26] <armageddon> did it a while ago
[17:26] <geremy> ganymede: well, that's a pretty good reason.
[17:26] <Bit_Breaker> Serraphyn: I would use Partimage/Gparted. however its risky. Please backup items
[17:26] <Neutrox> hey everybody!
[17:26] <zinake> Serraphyn: gparted
[17:26] <armageddon> Serraphyn: risky, backup please :P
[17:27] <Lamo> ok so I'm need to boot into kernel 2.6.24-21 but my grub boot menu only has 2.6.24-19?? How do I get 21 so I can use ssh over wifi?
[17:27] <armageddon> again: has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:27] <Neutrox> nope
[17:27] <Serraphyn> hmm
[17:27] <geremy> ganymede: not sure, you could always force the automounter to mount at the given location, but that doesn't actually certify that you'll always get it at the same spot, just that IF you get it, itll be at that spot
[17:27] <zinake> Serraphyn: also, defrag the NTFS partition before doing
[17:27] <Scunizi> Lamo: do you have two different linux installs on your machine?
[17:27] <Lamo> nope
[17:27] <Lamo> dual boot with vista
[17:27] <Neutrox> is there anybody from turkey?
[17:27] <armageddon> Serraphyn: if you have some place to backup everything
[17:28] <Serraphyn> don't have a windows active on PC anymore :) had 2 partitions a 45gig and a 155g gig
[17:28] <rjones1> Probably really simple - I have just finished applying some theme stuff on my laptop, but the only thing i cant seem to affect is the "File Edit Options View" bar colors. The window around it, scrollbars, all that is themed, but cant seem to change those main UI colors...
[17:28] <rjones1> any ideas how/where?
[17:28] <armageddon> Serraphyn: just copy everything over, completely reformat your ntfs to a bigger one and copy back
[17:28] <armageddon> Serraphyn: much faster than waiting 3 days and nights :P
[17:28] <Scunizi> Lamo: with the kernel update it should have updated grub for you automatically.. in the interim.. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change all references to 19 to 21.. make sure you actually have 21 installed.
[17:28] <ganymede> geremy: how do i force the automounted to reconsider all plugged in devices?
[17:29] <armageddon> again2: has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:29] <zinake> Serraphyn: agreed with armageddon
[17:29] <geremy> ganymede: no idea, honestly
[17:29] <SiON42X> Anyone know how I can downgrade perl from 5.10 to 5.8?
[17:29] <gnu> re
[17:29] <Serraphyn> if only I hd a place with 60g free
[17:29] <Lamo> ﻿Scunizi: thanks how do I know if its actually installed?
[17:29] <Serraphyn> er had
[17:29] <armageddon> SiON42X: is there a reason for doing so ?
[17:29] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... crossover is free now for download?
[17:29] <Serraphyn> my bf PC is only got 12g free
[17:29] <synthetiq> anyone know an IDE for the Console to write java code? like eclipse or maven providing the api
[17:30] <yoyoned> unitedpotsmokers: just today
[17:30] <musictoto> unitedpotsmokers: i read so today
[17:30] <Scunizi> Lamo: check in System/Admin/Synaptic and see if there is a colored box next to the kernel..
[17:30] <SiON42X> armageddon: I'm setting up an Ubuntu VM just for Zimbra, which requires perl 5.8 only.
[17:30] <armageddon> yoyoned: I'm using vim for everything
[17:30] <SiON42X> armageddon: Stupid problem, but I really don't want to go with another OS.
[17:30] <Bit_Breaker> Serraphyn: U can use DD and Netcat from a live CD as well
[17:30] <armageddon> SiON42X: so it does not work with 5.10 at all ?
[17:30] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks my friends... do you think crossover is better than wine and playonlinux?
[17:30] <SiON42X> armageddon: nada.
[17:31] <Serraphyn> Bit_Breaker, huh?
[17:31] <musictoto> unitedpotsmokers: i don't know... wine is not bad, is it :)
[17:31] <Scunizi> Lamo: you also might consider just going to the terminal and typing.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. that will bring your system up to the latest of what's in the repos.
[17:31] <dxdemetriou> if I'm correct, LTS is a stable release, LTS+1 is like a testing for new features release, LTS+2 is more eye candy release? I'm trying to understand the difference between each release
[17:31] <StormOrjin> Hi.  I'm installed ubuntu but having problems with booting ubuntu. Boot menu does not appears and system directly boots windows xp.
[17:31] <armageddon> SiON42X: so what is the actual OS  ? Ubuntu ? Try apt-get remove pearl-5.10 and apt-get install perl-5.8 or similar to this
[17:31] <WelshDragon> Anyone know of a way I can tell the mouse to click from the terminal?
[17:31] <SiON42X> armageddon: I'll give it a go.
[17:31] <unitedpotsmokers> yeah wine is not bad, i always play winamp using wine, but a little problem, i cant run bearshare application using wine, it can install but it cant run bearshare
[17:32] <Lamo> ﻿Scunizi: If I search kernel I get linux-headers-2.6.24-21 & ﻿linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic. would like to upgrade but it's my work laptop and I can't have it down right.
[17:32] <armageddon> SiON42X: do apt-cache search perl first and look for the exact names
[17:32] <Lamo> now
[17:32] <SiON42X> armageddon: Good command to know, thanks.
[17:32] <adminuser> deni_sk
[17:32] <armageddon> SiON42X: there is also aptitude
[17:32] <rblst> !release>dxdemetriou
[17:32] <nutzer> what is that for a chat????
[17:32] <armageddon> SiON42X: it has all of them, install, search, remove ....
[17:33] <unitedpotsmokers> izzit ok if i install crossover and wine both? or i need to uninstall wine? what u think my friends?
[17:33] <ganymede> does anyone know if there is a way to force the automounter to remount a drive? or all drives?
[17:33] <Pici> nutzer: #ubuntu-offtopic os one.
[17:33] <gothicsatan187_> Hi, i'm currently running Ubuntu, and i want to go to Kubuntu, at the download page, it says "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."  does that mean checking the box gives me a graphical installer, or the text based one?
[17:33] <Scunizi> Lamo: do the sudo apt-get lines I gave you and let it do it's thing.. are you running any vm type software on the lappy?
[17:33] <yoyoned> unitedpotsmokers: you can have both
[17:33] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks yoyoned
[17:33] <armageddon> again3: has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:33] <unitedpotsmokers> i want to try it now
[17:33] <musictoto> unitedpotsmokers: bearshare is a gnutella client, just like limewire. limewire will work on ubuntu, i think
[17:33] <UncleD> I run a webserver and when it reboots /usr/sbin/apache2 doesn't start so I always have to start it manually. How do I simply add it to startup so it executes once the machine is started?
[17:33] <nutzer> can anybody speak german
[17:33] <Pici> !de | nutzer
[17:34] <Lamo> ﻿Scunizi: no, but I'm worried its gonna take a few hours and I need to ssh into our server to fix some mysql problems I'm having. been using putty but it keeps glitching.
[17:34] <yoyoned> musictoto: unitedpotsmokers use gtk-nutella on linux
[17:34] <musictoto> yoyoned: yes, indeed
[17:34] <armageddon> nutzer: me :P
[17:34] <Scunizi> Lamo: if you're on a broadband connection .. minutes only.. very short.. you will need to reboot with a kernel upgrade though.
[17:35] <musictoto> yoyoned: unitedpotsmokers: any Gnutella will do the job
[17:35] <tavish> hello
[17:35] <tavish> i have a problem
[17:35] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks yoyoned , yeah but in bearshare, i not only can find music, but i can meet new friends, it functioning like myspace or friendster
[17:35] <armageddon> what does happen when i have a kernel module that came with ubuntu installed, and compile and make install another module for the same device or so
[17:35] <rblst> UncleD:  System->Administration->Services
[17:36] <armageddon> tavish: speak
[17:36] <UncleD> rblst: I'm on console only.
[17:36] <UncleD> Ie #
[17:36] <sdf> does anyone know what happened to bitchx in hardy heron, cant seem to find it anywhere to install?
[17:36] <tavish> i had ubuntu on ntfs using the option in ubuntu hardy heron to install it in windows. in which ubuntu creates the root disk on the host drive as a file
[17:36] <rblst> UncleD:  update-rc.d
[17:36] <Pici> sdf: BitchX is no longer supported upstream.
[17:36] <lbci> armageddon: they will conflict if both get loaded, one may need blacklisting
[17:36] <unitedpotsmokers> izzit gtk-nutella have function like bearshare? i mean we can meet friend, add people like myspace?
[17:36] <kitche> sdf: taken out considering it's no longer in development bitchx2 should be used instead
[17:36] <Lamo> ﻿Scunizi: ok gonna go for it. worried about gnome updates taking forever
[17:36] <Scunizi> sdf: you running it on the command line?  try irssi
[17:37] <oewidjowe> DCC SEND "dickrapeyou" 0 0 0
[17:37] <tavish> the hard disk got bad sectors and ia was unable to boot ubuntu
[17:37] <SuperATP1> using xubuntu, and my 'shared folder' gui is greyed out, anyone know why ?
[17:37] <tavish> is there a way to get some files off root.disk
[17:37] <Scunizi> Lamo: nope.. really depends on how many.. on a fresh install you might have 100+ but even that does it's thing in the background and you can keep working.. at 100+ it might take 10 minutes to download and process..
[17:38] <armageddon> tavish: Have you tried booting with a ubuntu live cd ?
[17:38] <Lamo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <---isn't working also tried sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[17:38] <unitedpotsmokers> izzit gtk-nutella have function like bearshare? i mean we can meet friend, add people like myspace?
[17:38] <jasuus> hi supposed hypothetically that I just clicked thru the update manager without looking at what was being installed...is there a record somewhere that would show me what was installed
[17:38] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:38] <geremy> armageddon: if you count trying and failing, yeah
[17:39] <dxdemetriou> rblst, thanks, I'll read it. It's like this I tried to find before about 8.10 but I didn't know how to tell it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[17:39] <piasdom> can someone tell me why me dropdown menu only has lines and no words ?
[17:39] <armageddon> geremy: what did you try ?
[17:39] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... who have a crossover serial number? i really need it
[17:39] <armageddon> geremy: and how long ago :P
[17:39] <forestpixie> piasdom
[17:39] <Anta30> sudo modprobe -r r8187 had no effect to unload the alternate driver when i make ndiswrapper -l
[17:39] <geremy> armageddon: been a while
[17:39] <lbci> jasuus: /var/log/dpkg* files
[17:39] <forestpixie> piasdom: what menu
[17:40] <Scunizi> How do you ls a list of hidden directories?  ls -a <path> ?
[17:40] <armageddon> geremy: where was your problem
[17:40] <ubuntu> does anyone know when running from livecd, where ubuntu keeps the wifi config info?
[17:40] <armageddon> geremy: maybe you got further than me :P
[17:40] <piasdom> in emc2(a cnc program)
[17:40] <tavish> yes
[17:40] <tavish> i have
[17:40] <piasdom> i have a pic at http://imagebin.org/29725
[17:40] <soneil> unitedpotsmokers: you have noticed that crossover are giving their products away free today?  their servers are a bit busy, but you'll get further that way, than asking for pirated software here
[17:40] <tavish> armageddon: but how would that help
[17:40] <jasuus> lbci, got it, thx much!
[17:41] <unitedpotsmokers> hehe
[17:41] <Ste1> Hi, on every linux guide on watching Tv on Pc it sais connect audio cable to enable sound.
[17:41] <Ste1> But on winXp I get sound w/o hardware changes. So that's a contradiction.
[17:41] <unitedpotsmokers> soneil, i download crossover now, but i saw it is *sh file.. what is this? how to install it?
[17:42] <Ste1> What else can I look at?
[17:42] <forestpixie> piasdom: sorry no I don't
[17:42] <piasdom> forestpixie:thanks
[17:43] <Ste1> Ok, so in general, I don't get sound while watching tv.
[17:43] <Anza> I have two files on my desktop: thunderbird-2.0.0.17.tar.gz    and    thunderbird-2.0.0.17 tar.gz   How can I do to install the package?
[17:43] <slobad23> i am trying to boot linux from my samsung q45 - i can do this with acpi=off from the live cd and then i can install it - i do not know how to give ubuntu the acpi=off when it is booting from the HDD
[17:43] <armageddon> tavish: you could try to mount the device and backup to some external storage
[17:44] <armageddon> tavish: at least the parts without errors
[17:44] <michellespankroc> does anyone know when running from livecd, where ubuntu keeps the wifi config info?
[17:44] <Ste1> Anza, use synaptec and search for thunderbird.
[17:44] <armageddon> tavish: or is the hard drive completely dead ?
[17:44] <rjones1> ﻿Probably really simple - I have just finished applying some theme stuff on my laptop, but the only thing i cant seem to affect is the "File Edit Options View" bar colors. The window around it, scrollbars, all that is themed, but cant seem to change those main UI Interface colors? any ideas?
[17:44] <tavish> armageddon: i used that install in windows option
[17:44] <armageddon> oh
[17:44] <armageddon> erm
[17:44] <tavish> armageddon: how can i mount a file named root.dsk
[17:44] <armageddon> tavish: don't know about how that works
[17:45] <Anza> ah wait, its one... LOL   just thunderbird-2.0.0.17.tar.gz
[17:45] <Anza> Stel: I want to know how to install this way
[17:45] <Ste1> ok =)
[17:45] <Pici> Anza: You should avoid installing things from compressed archives.
[17:45] <armageddon> tavish: sorry, I never used the windows install
[17:45] <Anza> Pici, Why?
[17:45] <armageddon> tavish: but how could you get defective sectors that way ?
[17:46] <Pici> Anza: Because they are not subject to the same security patches that Ubuntu provides updates for.
[17:46] <Anza> Pici, ok, I will instal from the console
[17:46] <tavish> armageddon: thanx neway
[17:46] <armageddon> tavish: I think i now know what you mean
[17:47] <geev> i see like there are two kenel on my computer this started after failed to finish update how to correct this help me
[17:47] <armageddon> tavish: so your windows doesn't work either
[17:47] <armageddon> tavish: ?
[17:47] <tavish> yes
[17:47] <tavish> i am using another hard disk
[17:47] <tavish> armageddon: i think the ubuntu files arte fine
[17:48] <geev> i see like there are two kenel on grub when booting my computer, this started after failed to finish update how to correct this help me
[17:49] <ksrk> Hi there... i've got a problem with an instalation of ubuntu 8.04... specially: i can't end the instalation, at 96% instalation stops and my computer is crashed. I tried 4 other CDs, i tried to put it on other particions, i've made a swap and ext3 particions (1024mb swap and 11gb for ext3) - why it is happening ? can any1 help me ?
[17:49] <FiReSTaRT> guys, i have a couple of migration questions re: hardy -- > intrepid.. 1) i'm assuming debs that worked on hardy should work on intrepid with no issues? 2) if i wanna transfer my user data like contact lists, account settings, program settings, all I need to do is copy the corresponding folders from my home folder to the new home folder once i have the ibex up and running?
[17:49] <ILoveYouMan> anyone here using ubuntu on an iBook G4?
[17:50] <armageddon> tavish: sorry, no success doing a quick google search
[17:50] <joaopinto> !intrepid > FiReSTaRT
[17:50] <Dillizar> bazhang: i still i have the virus
[17:50] <armageddon> tavish: i suggest you try google yourself once more, and after that do a polite posting of forums.ubuntuusers.de
[17:50] <Gnea> ILoveYouMan: there could be
[17:50] <ILoveYouMan> well, i have a little question about a recommendation - I have an iBook G4 and I was wondering what version of ubuntu would be best for me?
[17:51] <tavish> armageddon: ok. :)
[17:51] <armageddon> tavish: good luck
[17:51] <Ste1> I think the latest is just the best version.
[17:51] <ILoveYouMan> it has 256mb RAM
[17:51] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:51] <ILoveYouMan> and a 1 ghz processor
[17:51] <ksrk> some1 know name of a # for ubuntu help ?
[17:52] <joaopinto> ksrk, this is the right channel
[17:52] <geev> i see like there are two kenel on bootloader when booting my computer, this started after failed to finish to update it how to correct this and i use ubuntu 8.04
[17:52] <ksrk> i've already paste the question but no1 has answered it...
[17:52] <ILoveYouMan> what do you guys think would be suitable for me?
[17:52] <ksrk> so bb.
[17:52] <joaopinto> ksrk, asking for another channel will not help either, be patient
[17:52] <Gnea> ILoveYouMan: http://pinguin.uni-psych.gwdg.de/~ihrke/wiki/index.php/Installing_Ubuntu_on_iBook   it's a bit dated (dapper), but for the most part, should work for you just fine
[17:52] <joaopinto> ILoveYouMan, xubuntu or fluxbuntu
[17:53] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:53] <ILoveYouMan> thanks, guys
[17:53] <Gnea> ILoveYouMan: you should be able to use8.04 or 8.10
[17:53] <ILoveYouMan> I will read up on them
[17:53] <ILoveYouMan> oh
[17:53] <unitedpotsmokers> soneil, i download crossover now, but i saw it is *sh file.. what is this? how to install it?
[17:53] <Pici> unitedpotsmokers: chmod +x file.sh ; ./file.sh
[17:53] <a1len> ubuntu-california
[17:53] <jjdiamond> why would music files sound 'scratchy' when using VLC?
[17:53] <joaopinto> Gnea, ubuntu does not run smoothly with 256 MBs of RAM
[17:54] <armageddon> unitedpotsmokers: a .sh file is a shell script
[17:54] <Gnea> joaopinto: and yet, someone got it to work on an iBook g4. let him find out on his own and he can decide from there.
[17:54] <armageddon> unitedpotsmokers: maybe this is just an installer file and you need the actual data from elsewhere
[17:54] <kitche> unitedpotsmokers: chmod +x the file then run sh <file>
[17:54] <unitedpotsmokers> ok
[17:54] <unitedpotsmokers> i will try
[17:54] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[17:54] <unitedpotsmokers> but wait i want to save this command
[17:55] <joaopinto> Gnea, there is no need to let someone become frustrated when there is already a lot of experience on this case
[17:55] <armageddon> unitedpotsmokers: those are some of the very essential linux commands, you should be able to remember them after a while :P
[17:55] <jjdiamond> ﻿why would music files sound 'scratchy' when using VLC?
[17:55] <arcos> hi, how can I play a dvd with ubuntu? I just want to watch season 2 of heroes and it is not reading the disk
[17:55] <ILoveYouMan> OK guys I will read up on xbuntu and fluxbuntu and come back if I need anymore help, thanks again
[17:56] <Don> Any one familiar with solving XP blue screen of death while running under QEMU in ubuntu 8.04
[17:56] <armageddon> arcos: try installing vlc
[17:56] <unitedpotsmokers> hehe armageddon ; im new in linux world.. but i happy now with linux now, 80% im using linux now...
[17:56] <Gnea> joaopinto: if you want to get technical, elivecd outperforms xubuntu and fluxbuntu.
[17:56] <unitedpotsmokers> i will try my best
[17:57] <Gnea> joaopinto: only need 64mb ram.
[17:57] <arcos> armageddon: i have vlc installed but when i put in the disk a video and audio file pop up, i don't know how to get vlc to read it
[17:57] <Gnea> joaopinto: i just installed it on a system with 256mb on it. it's flying.
[17:57] <armageddon> arcos: just try file -> open media
[17:58] <Ste1> ﻿arcos, VLC is in the applications/audio-Video menu
[17:58] <Anza> I was trying to delete thunderbird completely from the system to see if that fixes a problem I have been having there, but once I installed back it loaded the whole account as before, how can I delete thunderbird from the whole system so that when I install back it wouldn't load old configurations???
[17:59] <arcos> armageddon: i just see file --> open disk or open file, and it doesnt work when I use either
[17:59] <kitche> Anza: delete the package and delete ~/.thunderbird
[17:59] <Gnea> joaopinto: but i have no idea if elivecd works on an ibook g4.
[17:59] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, have a little problem here.. i update hardy heron manually everyday... but tonite i have problem, because in update manager 1 file left.. i try to thick the checkbox, but i cant do that.. the file name is bogofilter-bdb.. what is this?
[18:00] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, have a little problem here.. i update hardy heron manually everyday... but tonite i have problem, because in update manager 1 file left.. i try to thick the checkbox, but i cant do that.. the file name is bogofilter-bdb.. what is this? it wont update this file.. why?
[18:00] <Anza> kitche, says it couldnt find ~/.thunderbird
[18:00] <diellon> hej
[18:00] <armageddon> arcos: try xine
[18:00] <Gnea> !repeat | unitedpotsmokers
[18:00] <Ste1> !patience
[18:00] <armageddon> arcos: i am only shell-user but i think it is called gxine
[18:00] <diellon> why don not amsn in ubuntu fo terminal
[18:00] <arcos> armageddon: i will try
[18:01] <diellon> ok
[18:01] <diellon> thnx
[18:01] <unitedpotsmokers> no... im not repeat Gnea , i just add a little information...
[18:01] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: it's best not to argue.
[18:01] <jjdiamond> ﻿why would music files sound 'scratchy' when using VLC?
[18:01] <Gnea> jjdiamond: slow system
[18:01] <diellon> 8.04lts
[18:02] <unitedpotsmokers> u now its hard to me to use a new OS, i really want support from u guys.. im sorry
[18:02] <armageddon> anyone sucessfully using some kind of digital tv card ?
[18:02] <omnius> Ix set my desktop resolution to 896 x 672 but my monitor doesn't support it and now i have a black screen. I'm using the livecd now and have checked out my xorg.conf but the monitor sections says "configured monitor", any ideas how i could fix this??
[18:02] <jjdiamond> Gnea: impossible
[18:02] <bttb> armageddon, yep
[18:02] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: then you need to show some respect.
[18:02] <diellon> ok ok
[18:02] <diellon> thnx
[18:02] <armageddon> jjdiamond: what kind of system do you have ?
[18:02] <Gnea> jjdiamond: oh?
[18:02] <armageddon> bttb: could you please explain your setup
[18:02] <armageddon> bttb: i mean your hardware :P
[18:02] <diellon> ubuntu 8.04 lts
[18:02] <jjdiamond> amageddon: amd 64bit 2.8ghz, 8gn of ram
[18:03] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: so what is this bogofilter?
[18:03] <jjdiamond> oops 8gb
[18:03] <diellon> no 32bit
[18:03] <unitedpotsmokers> one more thing, my english is very2 bad, its hard to communicate with you.. but i will try the best.. if u understand it is ok... that's why i repeat text, just want make people here understand.. that's all
[18:03] <slayton> how do I get sudo to keep environment variables?
[18:03] <mynx38> http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/
[18:03] <diellon> hej
[18:03] <diellon> nabjor
[18:03] <armageddon> jjdiamond: do you have and pci sound card or is it on board
[18:03] <bttb> armageddon, I have an usb2 dvb-t card. When I wanna watch I load my channels file into vlc and that's that :)
[18:03] <diellon> 8.04
[18:03] <jjdiamond> armageddon: on board
[18:04] <joaopinto> slayton, man sudo, it's described there
[18:04] <diellon> ok
[18:04] <armageddon> jjdiamond: does it work with other applications, or is it just music ?
[18:04] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: i understand. if you have something else to add to something like that, it's best to type it by itself, otherwise you're just repeating yourself and adding extra cruft.
[18:04] <diellon> fuck windows fista
[18:04] <Gnea> !language > diellon
[18:04] <joaopinto> !language | diellon
[18:04] <unitedpotsmokers> i dont Gnea , everytime i open update manager, it will show all files to update... all files i can update, but this one i cant... i cannot thick the checkbox, and i try to update this file, i cant
[18:04] <armageddon> bttb: did you use the kernel modules that came with 'buntu ?
[18:04] <jjdiamond> armageddon: you mean VLC? i've only played music with it.
[18:04] <domas> hehehe, just had kswapd/jfs deadlock on 8.04 %)
[18:04] <domas> fun stuff
[18:04] <diellon> i form kosova in city prishtina
[18:05] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: i have the same problem with k3b - and yet, the system works just fine anyway. it's not broken, so i don't bother fixing it.
[18:05] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  have you tried one of the other music players?
[18:05] <unitedpotsmokers> ok.. thanks for your guide Gnea , yeah i will respect pople here.. respect is everthing.. im sorry
[18:05] <bttb> armageddon, no, but I used an Ubuntu guide to install the svn dvb/v4l drivers
[18:05] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: it's quite okay :)
[18:05] <bttb> armageddon, still using stock hardy kernel
[18:05] <armageddon> jjdiamond: what exactly do you mean by scratchy ?
[18:05] <jjdiamond> mongolai: yes, amarok
[18:05] <armageddon> bttb: hmm
[18:05] <armageddon> bttb: i am getting strange errors
[18:06] <armageddon> bttb: about root file does not match
[18:06] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  did they sound "scratchy" with amarok as well?
[18:06] <diellon> ubuntu is hacking from kosova
[18:06] <armageddon> crc32
[18:06] <armageddon> something
[18:06] <jjdiamond> armaggedon:  the song will be playing normal and all of a sudden some scratchiness to the sound, then normal again.
[18:06] <diellon> yes
[18:06] <unitedpotsmokers> what us k3b? i think i not install k3b before? bogofilter-bdb and it's detail is : a fast bayesian spam filter (berkely DB) (size: 244KB)
[18:06] <unitedpotsmokers> *is*
[18:07] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: k3b is a cd burning program.
[18:07] <jjdiamond> mongolai:  i want to say maybe, but i don't completely remember
[18:07] <bttb> armageddon, you mean firmware?
[18:07] <armageddon> jjdiamond: where do you play your music files from ? are they raw wav, flac, mp3 ?
[18:07] <PatrickBic> good evening.
[18:07] <omnius> How do you change desktop resolution from the command line??
[18:07] <diellon> speak albania yua all
[18:07] <armageddon> bttb: I have no idea what causes this error
[18:07] <jjdiamond> armageddon: mp3
[18:07] <bttb> armageddon, pastebin?
[18:07] <jjdiamond> armaggedon: i haven't tried flac yet
[18:07] <armageddon> jjdiamond: try increasing cache sizes or something
[18:07] <arcos> armageddon: it still isnt working
[18:07] <domas> awesome deadlock: http://p.defau.lt/?AlJEt5Ag1Py45xgUyCb_zA ;-)
[18:07] <arcos> armageddon: should i restart the comp?
[18:08] <unitedpotsmokers> oh i c.. but i not install k3b before.. now i confuse what to do now.. just left that file in update manager... or i need to re-install hardy again..
[18:08] <armageddon> jjdiamond: maybe there might be a problem with proper OSS/ALSA support of your onboard sound
[18:08] <unitedpotsmokers> what u think Gnea
[18:08] <Anza> when I do sudo nautilus, this appears:  ** (nautilus:9814): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported
[18:08] <Anza> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[18:08] <armageddon> jjdiamond: try switching from oss to alsa or the other way round, whatever you are using
[18:08] <Anza> what does that means?
[18:08] <diellon> why ubuntu not install apt-get install amsn
[18:08] <diellon> in terminal
[18:09] <jjdiamond> armageddon:  ok
[18:09] <armageddon> arcos: rebooting might be a good idea :P
[18:09] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  try rythymbox first. If that is ok, then there might be some conflict with pulseaudio
[18:09] <diellon> 8.04
[18:09] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: i think it's better to just leave it alone. in 2 days, intrepid ibex will be out.
[18:09] <armageddon> arcos: once a day at least :P
[18:09] <armageddon> arcos: month for servers :P
[18:09] <diellon> why ubuntu not install apt-get install amsn
[18:09] <diellon> why ubuntu not install apt-get install amsn
[18:09] <diellon> why ubuntu not install apt-get install amsn
[18:09] <FloodBot3> diellon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <unitedpotsmokers> ok...
[18:10] <armageddon> has anyone experience with compiling the v4l-dvb modules and vdr ?
[18:10] <unitedpotsmokers> Gnea, if i can wait for 2 days, izzit relevan for me to try interpid beta, than run update manager everyday?
[18:10] <armageddon> bttb: i can try pasing it
[18:10] <unitedpotsmokers> *cant*
[18:10] <bttb> armageddon, you got a full featured card?
[18:10] <armageddon> bttb: yes
[18:10] <armageddon> bttb: skystar 1
[18:11] <armageddon> can i post 2 lines directly ?
[18:11] <bttb> armageddon, you don't need to compile anything. Should be fine with out of the box drivers
[18:11] <bttb> armageddon, possible you need the firmware, though
[18:11] <cRineU> Ope
[18:11] <armageddon> bttb: well, the problem is that i need to apply a little patch
[18:11] <armageddon> bttb: i have the firmware
[18:11] <cRineU>  :'(
[18:11] <bttb> armageddon, for vdr just use the debs
[18:11] <armageddon> bttb: tried a patched one :P and the normal one
[18:12] <bttb> armageddon, ah, that patch
[18:12] <PatrickBic> rather download rc-version and upgrade in a few days (with high speed) or wait a few days and get intepid with a low speed due server usage?
[18:12] <armageddon> bttb: i also need to compile the vdr myself, or wotherwise i won't be able to compile any plugins
[18:12] <JonathanEllis> ﻿Hi. Sorry if I am asking a stupid question but how do I add the network status button and the minimise button to the taskbar?
[18:12] <bttb> armageddon, never tried that, sorry buddy
[18:12] <armageddon> bttb: and the plugins arer the actual reason i need to do all this shit at all :P
[18:12] <mongolai> JonathanEllis:  right-click and "Add to Panel..."
[18:12] <armageddon> bttb: let me guess, you have not heard of the plugin dvb-sc :P
[18:13] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: i would seriously just ignore the bogofilter-bdb altogether unless you know for sure that there's an update for it that you need to install. otherwise, it's being held back for a good reason, possibly due to how you set your repositories up.
[18:13] <bttb> armageddon, :)
[18:13] <armageddon> bttb: you have ? xD
[18:13] <armageddon> bttb: i desperately need it :P
[18:13] <bttb> armageddon, well, let's just say I've never setup the stuff in Ubuntu
[18:14] <armageddon> bttb: or my father kills me :P
[18:14] <armageddon> bttb: i broke his d-box
[18:14] <armageddon> bttb: so i have to setup all this shit virtually now :P
[18:14] <unitedpotsmokers> Gnea, : oh... thanks Gnea .. now i have an idea, maybe i must go to synaptic manager, find that file, and uninstall... what u think?
[18:14] <armageddon> bttb: read out our premiere key with a card reader
[18:14] <Ste1> How can I test if ubuntu recognises audio from my tv card?
[18:14] <armageddon> :P
[18:14] <jjdiamond> armageddon:  how do set the cache you mentioned?
[18:14] <bttb> armageddon, forget about it. The channels will change the method end of this month anyway. There'll be no way
[18:14] <armageddon> jjdiamond: hmm somewhere in the vlc options
[18:15] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: it's up to you
[18:15] <armageddon> bttb: really ?
[18:15] <JonathanEllis> Sorry, I want to add the network status icon to the system tray and the minimize all windows button to the panel
[18:15] <bttb> armageddon, 100%
[18:15] <armageddon> bttb: what a ****, but there has to be a way to compile this shit anyways
[18:15] <Ste1> ﻿(19:12:51) mongolai: JonathanEllis:  right-click and "Add to Panel..."
[18:15] <armageddon> bttb: did you get lirc working ? :P
[18:15] <slayton> is it possible to create a script that will be run everytime sudo is invoked?
[18:15] <bttb> armageddon, I bet there is, but I wouldn't know how
[18:16] <bttb> armageddon, never tried that with ubuntu
[18:16] <armageddon> bttb: with what else :P
[18:16] <unitedpotsmokers> Gnea, : ok try and error.. thanks 4 helping us Gnea
[18:16] <bttb> armageddon, gentoo
[18:16] <armageddon> bttb: i have an old serial miro infrared reciever
[18:16] <armageddon> bttb: oh, ok
[18:16] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: cheers
[18:16] <bobbob1016> JonathanEllis: You should just have to right click a blank spot in the panel, and do "Add to panel"
[18:17] <unitedpotsmokers> ok i found bogofilter in synaptic manager, it has 3 files there.. now i want to uninstall them, and see what happen
[18:17] <armageddon> bttb: LOOL
[18:17] <armageddon> bttb: didnt think I would get it to work like that
[18:18] <armageddon> bttb: e.g. i dunno if it works but i dont  get the error
[18:18] <bttb> armageddon, forget about it, tv is boring anyway. Nobody watches these days. It's too 1900 ;)
[18:18] <esac> is there a way to remove the ubuntu logo from next to the applications menu ?
[18:18] <armageddon> bttb: i just removed the part throwing this error from the sources :P
[18:18] <unitedpotsmokers> i still confuse.. how this file/application running in my OS, because i never install them...
[18:18] <bttb> way to go :)
[18:19] <armageddon> bttb: i want to be able to watch simpsons :P
[18:19] <armageddon> bttb: AND record it :P
[18:19] <bttb> armageddon, waste of time :) See you later
[18:19] <mongolai> esac:  you could right-click the menu, remove it, then right-click a blank space and add a Main Menu
[18:19] <Ste1> another good reason to get tv on ubuntu, is to prevent switching to win to watch tv...
[18:20] <mongolai> esac:  NO WAIT!! I was wrong :(
[18:20] <esac> mongolai, i was going to say, main menu is just the ubuntu logo :)
[18:20] <unitedpotsmokers> i hope nothing happen if i remove this files... i also afraid these files is use in another application..
[18:20] <mongolai> esac:  I accidentally did just what you are asking once, but I'll be darned If I remember now...
[18:21] <bobbob1016> armageddon: bttb is somewhat a troll, in that he says "tv sucks" and then doesn't seem to want to help you.  I pay for TV, then get the shows in other ways....  I'm paying, and can record, but I'm too lazy to, so it works
[18:21] <omgirc> what does this mean : : The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team <admin@lists.medibuntu.org>
[18:21] <bobbob1016> Ste1: What do you mean?
[18:21] <jjdiamond> how annoying
[18:22] <bobbob1016> Ste1: MythTV works with ubuntu, so does Mythbuntu
[18:22] <Ste1> ﻿bobbob1016 well, I have no sound when I watch tv on ubuntu
[18:22] <Ste1> so they switch to win
[18:22] <bobbob1016> Ste1: That is a different issue.  My TV works fine on Ubuntu.  If it was a bug, or a major problem, it would be fixed.
[18:23] <bobbob1016> Ste1: It could be your setup or something.  Maybe a weird setting.
[18:23] <Ste1> Many guides talk about attaching a wire from tv card to audio in...
[18:23] <armageddon> bobbob1016: are you talking about digital dvb ?
[18:24] <Ste1> Do you happen to know howto test if ubuntu is accepting audio from my tv card?
[18:24] <armageddon> bobbob1016: have you got experience with vdr ?
[18:25] <unitedpotsmokers> Gnea, i just uninstall bogofilter in synaptic manager just now, then i open the update manager, i saw there is no bogofiles-bdb to update.. thanks Gnea  gave me an idea..
[18:25] <bobbob1016> armageddon: As in what?  I missed the beginning of your question.  I just installed Mythbuntu, and hooked my coax up to my tuner, no real config, apart from saying "My tuner is here"
[18:25] <domas> I love systems which deadlock at full disk :)
[18:25] <jjdiamond> ok, so with VLC i get the 'scratchy' 'hatchy' playback.  with Amorok it doesn't do that but the volume seems low.
[18:26] <Ste1> I'll give ﻿Mythbuntu a try
[18:26] <armageddon> bobbob1016: wel, i am trying to compile de v4l dvb module drivers and vdr and some plugins for vdr
[18:26] <mimmo93> ciao a tutti
[18:26] <mimmo93> !list
[18:26] <armageddon> bobbob1016: but i am using ubuntu-server, so no xx-environment
[18:26] <armageddon> bobbob1016: one x
[18:27] <armageddon> bobbob1016: any idea of that ?
[18:27] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  perhaps vlc has some other compression options somewhere, or like I said before, It might be a pulseaudio issue. Did you install the vlc-pulseaudio plugin?
[18:27] <Torway> Hi, I am sellin the computer and started a sudo shred process a few days ago. It is still running (currently at 9/25), and I need to deliver the computer tonight. Is it OK to stop this process now or will something "bad" happen? If so, how should I proceed? Thanks:)
[18:28] <bobbob1016> armageddon: Why're you using server?  Why not normal ubuntu and then remove the gnome-y things?  So you can set it up on a system with packages meant for users, that might make it easier to do what you need (non-server stuff)
[18:28] <armageddon> bobbob1016: well, it consists of only server things :P
[18:29] <armageddon> bobbob1016: it should becom a streaming server for at the moment one ff but later up to three ff or 2 ff and 2 budget dvb-s cards
[18:29] <bobbob1016> armageddon: Maybe I don't know what vdl is, but I know v4l is video4linux, and recording TV isn't a server thing.
[18:29] <jjdiamond> mongolai: not on purpose.  but in the VLC settings there's an Audio output module with a selection for pulse audio.  but all those options sound hatchy when applied
[18:29] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  can you try one of the other options, perhaps ALSA
[18:30] <jjdiamond> mongolai:  i did.  theyre all hatchy.
[18:30] <bobbob1016> armageddon: I don't know much about that stuff to be honest.  I just have my Mythbuntu box record to my FreeNAS Server
[18:30] <hwilde> hello I need a non-sudo command to see the size of a diskdrive *not the size of partition
[18:30] <GeForce88> i was trying to get gyachi ( instant messenger client) working on hardy heron, and the make file works, but up on running make it fails with error 2. i tried with an older snapshot and nothing, tried with a current release and i'm told i'm missing files and i can't find them in the repos.
[18:30] <jjdiamond> mongolai:  in amarok it sounds fine.
[18:31] <armageddon> bobbob1016: well, why is such a thing then called streaming SERVER ? :P
[18:31] <armageddon> bobbob1016: the thing i try to compile is called vdr
[18:31] <unop> GeForce88, how does the makefile work when make itself fails?? also, are you following build instruction as per the README/INSTALL file that came with the source?
[18:32] <GeForce88> unop : yes, i run ./makefile...then, when it tells me to , i run make...it compiles for 4 minutes and stops with error code #2
[18:32] <armageddon> bobbob1016: and since that machine is my 4 TB file server at the same time, and the mpeg2 stream can directly be recorded to the hard disk, it makes sense to do so :P
[18:32] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  weird. is there a particular reason why you want to use vlc for music?
[18:32] <bobbob1016> armageddon: Ubuntu Server != Streaming SERVER, Ubuntu Server == Generic SERVER according to what I know.  ANY server or fileshare CAN be streaming,
[18:32] <unop> GeForce88, do you mean ./configure there? instead of ./makefile ? because that's odd
[18:32] <hwilde> hello I need a non-sudo command to see the size of a diskdrive *not the size of partition
[18:32] <GeForce88> i'm sorry, i meant ./configure
[18:33] <jjdiamond> mongolai:  not particularly.  i would like to play .flac and .shn files though.
[18:33] <whatvn> using root, you dont need sudo :P
[18:33] <smoovep> Question? All email go to user www-data.. is there anyways to send external? Thanks.
[18:33] <jjdiamond> i removed VLC
[18:33] <bobbob1016> armageddon: I'd do the recording on another machine to the SERVER's drive that it SERVES.  Recording video is not in the roll of a server directly, it can be added, but it isn't easy.
[18:33] <unop> hwilde, lshal, lshw, etc
[18:33] <jjdiamond> irritating.
[18:33] <genii> whatvn: Please don't advocate using root
[18:33] <Pici> armageddon: Whats wrong with the vdr package in the repositories?
[18:33] <Anveo> I seem to have lost the icon on my toolbar where I can see all the wireless network around me, I can only manually configure now. How can I get the auto configure back?
[18:34] <unop> GeForce88, ok, that makes sense? did the source come with a README or INSTALL file?
[18:34] <nach> hi !
[18:34] <jarias> hi!
[18:34] <danopia> Poke!
[18:34] <danopia> I moutned a file system
[18:34] <nach>  I can I resize the main gnome menu in order to supress the slider ?
[18:35] <danopia> How can I let anyone write to it
[18:35] <vitamin-carrot> hi
[18:35] <Gnea> danopia: anyone??
[18:35] <Gnea> danopia: or everyone? :)
[18:35] <danopia> Gnea, well....
[18:35] <kilowhisky> is "sudo aptitude install build-essential" and sudo aptitude install update" 2 different things?
[18:35] <danopia> Gnea, atm only I can write to it
[18:35] <unop> kilowhisky, off course
[18:35] <armageddon> Pici: no precompiled version of vdr-plugin-sc
[18:35] <danopia> Gnea, I am using samba to share it and it denies write privledges but allows read
[18:35] <GeForce88> unop, yea, it did, and i followed those, see, i had this wrking with gutsy, and now it's broken, i did a clean install of 8.04 and now seems i can't figure out which packages if any i'm missing. i'm going to pastebin the output of both ./configure and make
[18:35] <kilowhisky> so once i setup ubuntu, those two are the only updates i put on?
[18:35] <vitamin-carrot> build-essential are the kernel headers arent they?
[18:36] <armageddon> Pici: and to compile a plugin i need the sources of exactly what i have isntalled
[18:36] <mongolai> jjdiamond:  it looks like others were having problems with vlc's audio, but it's been described as "stuttering"...
[18:36] <kilowhisky> GeForce: build essential?
[18:36] <jjdiamond> bbl with more questions...heh
[18:36] <armageddon> Pici: wich isnt apt-get source vdr
[18:36] <jewelz12502> apt-get update refreshes your packages doesnt install anything
[18:36] <danopia> Gnea, poke?
[18:36] <armageddon> Pici: seems to be slightly different
[18:36] <kilowhisky> oh
[18:36] <Gnea> danopia: ah, what role does samba play? authenticated users or is it a member server?
[18:36] <nach>  I can I resize the main gnome menu in order to supress the slider ?
[18:36] <GeForce88> unop : http://pastebin.ca/1238857
[18:36] <ubuntu> hi, how can I delete all the blank spaces in a plain text file?
[18:36] <matrix_> hello i am on ubuntu using firefox I can view email. When I try to write or reply email, I am presented with only the ‘Subject’ and ‘To’ boxes. There is nowhere to write my message.
[18:36] <kilowhisky> so what works as a software update?
[18:36] <danopia> Gnea, no user/pass is what I want
[18:36]  * vitamin-carrot Hugs Everyone
[18:36] <danopia> Gnea, atm it takes no pass (public)
[18:37] <rhousand> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:37] <Gnea> danopia: okay...... have you installed swat?
[18:37] <danopia> no
[18:37] <danopia> what would that do
[18:37] <Jowi> matrix_, with what webmail site?
[18:37] <matrix_> hotmail
[18:38] <Gnea> danopia: swat is this really nifty web-frontend to configuring samba. it takes a lot of the guesswork out of what the differnet options mean and makes a lot of tasks very simple.  i would strongly recommend sudo apt-get install swat samba-doc
[18:38] <Jowi> matrix_, haven't tried hotmail since mid 90's. But check that you haven't got javascript deactivated.
[18:38] <danopia> Gnea, but I was thinking that maybe samba's user account can't get to the drive
[18:38] <jin> how can I rollback from Intrepid RC1 to Ubuntu Hardy?
[18:38] <Gnea> danopia: samba doesn't have a user account. only user accounts have user accounts.
[18:38] <unop> GeForce88, try this.   sudo aptitude install libmcrypt-dev;  make clean;  ./configure && make
[18:38] <matrix_> it worked fine some weeks ago
[18:39] <danopia> Gnea, I mean the one it uses for anonymous access
[18:39] <rblst> !downgrade>jin
[18:39] <GeForce88> unop : k
[18:39] <Gnea> danopia: the guest account?
[18:39] <danopia> Gnea, if that is what it uses
[18:39] <unop> GeForce88, i'm working on the assumption that you need a mcrypt.h file (line #367 from your output)
[18:39] <danopia> Gnea, it has guest_account = nobody
[18:39] <Pici> armageddon: sudo apt-get build-dep vdr
[18:39] <danopia> Gnea, shld I make an account for it and figuore out how to give that accout write access?
[18:39] <zinake> danopia: don't forget to chown user of smb.conf before using swat or you will not have all options available to you
[18:39] <GeForce88> yes, i saw that. i dunno if thats the error #2 but it can't hurt i gues
[18:39] <Pici> armageddon: That will install all the build dependencies for vdr
[18:39] <Gnea> danopia: well, once you have swat installed, it suddenly becomes easier to be able to assign a share to guest access or not
[18:39] <matrix_> i have all things activated
[18:39] <Jowi> matrix_, to see if there is a problem with the site or with firefox - start firefox using a clean profile "firefox -ProfileManager"
[18:40] <danopia> Gnea, for the share I have
[18:40] <danopia> readonly = no
[18:40] <Gnea> danopia: no, you should be able to share it out to guest without too much trouble
[18:40] <nach>  I can I resize the main gnome menu in order to supress the slider ?
[18:40] <danopia> guest ok = yes
[18:40] <Gnea> danopia: look, install swat. if you want to discuss specifics, you'll need to do that in #samba
[18:40] <danopia> ok
[18:40] <mongolai> nach:  what do you mean "slider"?
[18:41] <unitedpotsmokers> brb
[18:41] <GeForce88> unop : same error code
[18:41] <vitamin-carrot> woot i got updates
[18:42] <Slack> I just installed a new icon pack, where do i install this at
[18:42] <GeForce88> lots of these : gyachi-gpgme.c:326: warning: format ‘%s’ expects type ‘char *’, but argument 3 has type ‘int’
[18:42] <MarcC_> I have Wine 1.0 installed but wine-dev is listed as .9 something...how do I roll back Wine to .9?
[18:42] <unop> GeForce88, can i see the new output
[18:42] <unop> ?
[18:42] <GeForce88> yes
[18:42] <vitamin-carrot> slack
[18:42] <vitamin-carrot> drag and drop into your apperance prefernces window
[18:42] <Slack> kk
[18:42] <nach> mongolai: since i installed crossover, i get slider on the second menu of gnome application...  that are useless
[18:43] <danopia> zinake, poke
 danopia: don't forget to chown user of smb.conf before using swat or you will not have all options available to you
[18:43] <danopia> chown to what?
[18:43] <vitamin-carrot> smb.conf
[18:43] <Gnea> danopia: ignore it
[18:43] <danopia> ok
[18:43] <GeForce88> unop : http://pastebin.ca/1238861
[18:43] <matrix_> its same thing i tryed even with Konqueror webb browser and Epiphany  i can not write on hotmail
[18:43] <zinake> danopia: you need to change the ownership of your smb.conf file to you instead of root
[18:43] <Gnea> danopia: clearly, if you can install swat and if it doesn't error out, you don't need to do that
[18:43] <Gnea> zinake: no he doesn't. since when?
[18:44] <Slack> vitamin-carrot: are you sure that works for icon packs
[18:44] <vitamin-carrot> what does hotmail say matrix?
[18:44] <danopia> Gnea, uhhh
[18:44] <vitamin-carrot> yes slack im sure
[18:44] <zinake> gnea: since i last installed samba on my laptop
[18:44] <mongolai> nach:  are you talking about CodeWeaver's MS emulation software that is free today?
[18:44] <vitamin-carrot> unless the icon pack ha sbeen made differently
[18:44] <Slack> vitamin-carrot: is their a certain tab it shoudl be drug under
[18:44] <danopia> Gnea, I need root to write to smb.conf so unels I run swat as root, woudln't it need a chown to save?
[18:44] <Gnea> zinake: i've installed samba on many production servers and have never once had to re-chown the configuration file. there has never once been a problem with it.
[18:44] <zinake> gnea: if you do not have writing capabilities on smb.conf w/o using sudo, swat will not allow you to write your smb.conf
[18:44] <unop> GeForce88, ok, it's not the same error this time
[18:44] <vitamin-carrot> it should either install the icon pack or tell you it cant in which case extract the tar.gz file and see whats inside
[18:45] <zinake> gnea: then you are lucky
[18:45] <danopia> Gnea, unles you run swat as root :P
[18:45] <nach> mongolai: yep that one
[18:45] <GeForce88> unop, is it too old a package?
[18:45] <mongolai> nach:  sorry, I haven't got it yet :)
[18:45] <unop> GeForce88, scroll through the output - and look at line #108 - it's missing a header file
[18:45] <zinake> danopia: that isn't an issue w/ other distrobutions... but ubuntu has root disables by default
[18:45] <Gnea> zinake: wrong, as long as you don't manipulate the ownership of the files in the first place, you won't have to worry about it later on.
[18:45] <yoyoned> doesn't swat run as root?
[18:45] <unop> GeForce88, to find out which package houses that header - use  http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <Slack> vitamin-carrot: got it working, thanks
[18:45] <Jowi> Slack, as vitamin-carrot says you can also extract the icon archive in its own directory under /home/username/.icons/
[18:45] <infinite> hello, i seem to have a broken driver(nvidia-glx). I already tried: sudo apt-get autoremove, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx -f but it doesnt work.Because of this im unabe to install any new packages.Can somebody help me?Thnx in advance
[18:45] <vitamin-carrot> your welcome
[18:45] <danopia> So wtf happens when I run sway?
[18:45] <danopia> swat*
[18:46] <Gnea> !swat
[18:46] <GeForce88> unop, my stuff is wanting to reboot from a kernal update, let me reboot and i'll be back
[18:46] <Gnea> yoyoned: yes.
[18:46] <vitamin-carrot> lolz
[18:46] <Gnea> danopia: it's going to throw a line in your /etc/inetd.conf file to run as
[18:46] <vitamin-carrot> mine wants a restart aswell
[18:46] <vitamin-carrot> yay for updates
[18:46] <dradiscontact> i have the newest beta release. on occasion ubuntu completely freezes and the mouse disappears, but it only happens when i do something intensive in firefox. any tips?
[18:47] <Gnea> danopia: if you think i'm wrong or lying to you, then go ahead and follow zinake's advice.
[18:47] <zinake> gnea: i'm sorry, but that last statement is innacturate.  there are 2 ways that you can change the smb.conf file... that is either owning the file or being in the group that owns the file.  I have had installs that i didn't need to do anything, i've had others that it would not let me write the smb.comf
[18:47] <danopia> Gnea, but when I run swat, what happens?
[18:47] <danopia> It just sits there
[18:47] <Gnea> danopia: then you can make it work like you want it to
[18:48] <Gnea> zinake: i have never ONCE heard about the need to change the ownership of the smb.conf file.  clearly, you are misinformed.
[18:48] <zinake> danopia there is a possibility that you may not need to chown smb.conf. but if you only have 3 options @ the top of the browser when you log in, then you need to.
[18:48] <danopia> Where am I logging in?
[18:48] <danopia> What port?
[18:48] <Gnea> 901
[18:48] <zinake> i got my info from samba website
[18:48] <danopia> Thanks.
[18:49] <Gnea> zinake: which isn't ubuntu's method of setup, which doesn't directly apply.
[18:49] <zinake> "if you don't have all options available, then you do not have write access to file"
[18:49] <zinake> "change write access for group or owner"
[18:49] <Gnea> zinake: right, that's only if your distribution is brain-dead.
[18:49] <Torway> Hi, I am sellin the computer and started a sudo shred process a few days ago. It is still running (currently at 9/25), and I need to deliver the computer tonight. Is it OK to stop this process now or will something "bad" happen? If so, how should I proceed?
[18:50] <zinake> well, i guess that ubuntu 8.04 is brain-dead
[18:50] <Gnea> Torway: lol, why are you shredding it?
[18:50] <danopia> Gnea, swat just shows home/status/view/password and documentation links that 404
[18:50] <zinake> b/c that's what i'm currently running and had the issue with
[18:50] <Torway> gnea: thanks to the excellent advice of some person on this forum:)
[18:50] <vitamin-carrot> well thatw as weird
[18:50] <tomoyuki28jp> After upgrading my kernel to 2.6.24-20 (or 2.6.24-21), the volume controller does not work correctly. Volume up/down does not go up/down the volume.  Does anybody know why this happen?  I am using ubuntu hardy on thinkpad X300 with alsa-snapshot.
[18:50] <Gnea> zinake: well, you're the first one i've ever heard of having that problem. did you file a bug report?
[18:50] <zinake> didn't realize it was a bug
[18:50] <GeForce88> unop, i'm back. do oyu have a solution for the new error?
[18:51] <Gnea> Torway: so you're shredding it while it's running itself?
[18:51] <unop> GeForce88, scroll through the output - and look at line #108 - you're missing a header file that needs installing ( http://pastebin.ca/1238861 )
[18:51] <unop> GeForce88, to find out which package houses that header - use  http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:51] <Torway> gnea: its running on the installation cd
[18:51] <GeForce88> unop : where do i get this header file ?
[18:51] <mongolai> Torway:  as long as you can get it stop gracefully you should be ok
[18:52] <Gnea> Torway: oh okay. uhm, should be fine, I guess... how big is the HD to shred?
[18:52] <Torway> mongolai: What is your definition of gracefully? :)
[18:52] <unop> GeForce88, repeat the process until you have no errors - and then gyachi should make successfully
[18:52] <x-calibur> who can help me, i want to give a user permission to start 1 program....  how can i do that?
[18:52] <Torway> Gnea: its 750 GB
[18:52] <GeForce88> how do i know what i need ?
[18:52] <Gnea> Torway: o.OOOO
[18:52] <vitamin-carrot> X you could make a custom group and have that user as a member
[18:53] <GeForce88> unop: am i looking for gpgme.h ?
[18:53] <x-calibur> @vitamin i already did
[18:53] <unop> GeForce88, yes
[18:53] <micettonero> could you say me the simplest program to plot a graph? Not octave or freemath please...
[18:53] <Gnea> Torway: i would just let it run until it's time to deliver and then just format it
[18:53] <GeForce88> unop : ok. thx
[18:53] <vitamin-carrot> right well im out of ideas
[18:53] <vitamin-carrot> :(
[18:53] <micettonero> on gnome...
[18:53] <PatrickBic> micettonero, self written
[18:53] <PatrickBic> :P
[18:53] <x-calibur> ok ?
[18:53] <Torway> Gnea/Mongolai: So I can just close the terminal window I am running the shred in at the moment and then when rebooting the buyer can install whatever he wants easily?
[18:53] <unop> x-calibur, can't that user start the program now?
[18:54] <x-calibur> @unop no
[18:54] <mongolai> Torway:  that's not what I mean gracefully. Just a sec...
[18:54] <micettonero> PatrickBic: please... :D
[18:54] <PatrickBic> micettonero, plotting a graph from an array is.. like.. under 50 lines (with window and stuff) in java
[18:54] <Gnea> zinake: well, since no one else has had a problem with it, and you're the first one to complain about it, the problem is either that ubuntu screwed up, or you did. since no one else has had the problem and since i'm not finding a bug report for it yet, it's a pretty safe bet that no one else is having the same problem.
[18:54] <PatrickBic> but no clue where you want it to be
[18:55] <PatrickBic> and which language and stuff
[18:55] <micettonero> PatrickBic: not from an array, from an expression
[18:55] <x-calibur> @unop it says Permission denied
[18:55] <Gnea> danopia: the 404 means you need to install samba-doc
[18:56] <PatrickBic> micettonero, never tried but i guess it wont be that difficult
[18:56] <Knoob> Xborder
[18:56] <GeForce88> unop, ubuntu reports my gpgme is newest
[18:56] <Gnea> danopia: and you need to login as root, which means you need to set a root pw
[18:56] <mongolai> Torway:  try the ctrl+c "signal invoker" at the terminal that shred is running
[18:56] <danopia> Gnea, i already logge din as root
[18:56] <PatrickBic> i would change my lines-"idea" to 30 :P
[18:56] <vitamin-carrot> oh great after update i cannot resolve my host in terminal
[18:56] <Torway> mongolai: and then? What does this do?
[18:57] <bremb1> ﻿hi. I have a linking problem. Anyhow I set the linker to link against my own-compiled shared libraries, there's a problem with compiling. sometimes the configure script tells me the C compiler cannot create executables (using LDFLAGS variable), now I used LD_RUN_PATH (which should be the same as -rpath) and at the very beginning of compiling it tells me Segmentation fault. Any ideas?
[18:57] <danopia> Gnea, and swat only helps by showing entries that my file don'set have but could have, other than that it's pracitcaly the same thing
[18:57] <PatrickBic> mongolai, query me the expression
[18:57] <mongolai> Torway:  it should cause it to stop. If it does, you're fine. If not, then try ctrl+d, or ctrl+z
[18:57] <PatrickBic> maybe i can come up with some basic stuff
[18:57] <Gnea> danopia: you don't have globals/shares/printers?
[18:57] <unop> GeForce88, which package has that file according to your system?
[18:57] <danopia> Gnea, i do now
[18:58] <Torway> Mongolai: then when it stops, the buyer can reboot and install whatever he wants next time around?
[18:58] <micettonero> PatrickBic: so there isn't a program like kmplot for gnome?
[18:58] <PatrickBic> micettonero, no clue.. i once helped a friend with his diploma project.. and he needed such a plotting algorithmn.. so i wrote it for him...
[18:58] <mongolai> Torway:  right. The drive is shredded. You only needed a few iterations to be reasonably secure. You already had 9 of 25!
[18:58] <PatrickBic> but i am not aware of any lib/program
[18:58] <GeForce88> omgirc@ubuntu:~/Desktop/gyachi-1.0.5$ sudo apt-cache search gpgme
[18:58] <GeForce88> libgpg-error-dev - library for common error values and messages in GnuPG components
[18:58] <GeForce88> libgpg-error0 - library for common error values and messages in GnuPG components
[18:58] <GeForce88> libgpgme11 - GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy
[18:58] <GeForce88> libgpgme11-dev - GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy
[18:58] <FloodBot3> GeForce88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <Torway> mongolai: thanks! :)
[18:58] <GeForce88> oops, i didn't know xchat would make multiple lines. sorry
[18:58] <Gnea> danopia: alright. so check out your globals make sure it's set to share
[18:58] <Akazawa> does anyone know how to change the starup sound? (not the login sound the sound that plays at the login screen before you login)
[18:59] <zinake> gnea: thanks for calling me an idiot.  this is a place to try to get help and give help if you can.  I've installed Ubuntu 3 or 4 times on this computer and i didn't have the issue each time.  It is quite possible that I did mess something up.  However, after searching the internet for the answer, not asking here, i found a way to solve the issue.  I'm sorry that I seem to be offending you, however, If you do not have full acces
[18:59] <danopia> Gnea, make sure what is shar?
[18:59] <jsilvia> The startup sound is in the sounds panel, under System - > Preferences -> Sound - > Center tab
[18:59] <azethoth> hi im havign a problem with sound. i just installed this last night. i get a tone at the log in screen but no sound from anything inside on the desktop
[18:59] <Akazawa> jsilvia: no, that's the login sound which plays after you login
[19:00] <legend2440> vitamin-carrot: one thing to check is  open   /etc/hostname and  /etc/hosts   2nd line of /etc/hosts should match what it says in /etc/hostname
[19:00] <danopia> Gnea, I logged in as nobody using su and I cna't write to the drive itehr, so it's not all samba's fault
[19:00] <unop> GeForce88, that there doesn't list installed packages
[19:00] <sisif> Hello guys. I know that what i`m going to ask it`s a rather *lame* quetion, but bare with me: I`m trying to use gnomad2 to add some music to my mp3 player (iriver clix 2 gen) that is on MTP. The gnomad sees my devices ok, I am able to create playlists, but when it comes to actually transfer the music to it, nothing happends. I`m using 8.04 (testing repos) and gnomad is version 2.9.1. Any sugestions?
[19:00] <infinite_> hello im having trouble removeing a driver(nvidia-glx).it gives me this error:Removing nvidia-glx ...
[19:00] <infinite_> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[19:00] <x-calibur> how can i give permission to a group to run certain programs?
[19:00] <jsilvia> Akazama: Doh!
[19:00] <infinite_> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[19:00] <vitamin-carrot> thank you legend i love you
[19:00] <infinite_> Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glx
[19:00] <unop> GeForce88,   dpkg -S /path/to/gpgme.h
[19:00] <FloodBot3> infinite_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <dubsided> Hello all,
[19:00] <Akazawa> jsilvia: I want to change the sound that happens before I login, but at the login screen
[19:00] <vitamin-carrot> was just searching the forums cause i was sure it was on there aswell
[19:00] <Akazawa> jsilvia: the drum diddle
[19:00] <danopia> Gnea, http://danopia.pastebin.com/d6d0f3087
[19:01] <x-calibur> how can i give permission to a group to run certain programs?
[19:01] <jsilvia> Akazawa: It does play a sound - can you find it's filename?
[19:01] <GeForce88> unop: interesting, even though ubuntu says it's newest, i can't find it : dpkg: /path/to/gpgme.h not found.
[19:01] <Gnea> zinake: all i'm sayin' is, if there's a bug with it, you should file a bug report. i didn't call you an idiot.
[19:01] <dubsided> 8.10 is supposed to be released officially in two days. Are they usually on time with their releases?
[19:01] <puff> zinake: calm down.
[19:01] <Akazawa> jsilvia: I have no idea what it would be named
[19:01] <jsilvia> hmmm
[19:01] <azethoth> anyone got some time to help me with that?
[19:01] <jsilvia> hang on
[19:01] <danopia> Gnea, ...
[19:01] <puff> Gnea: You do realize your choice of words, adjectives, etc, could be construed as hostile to somebody in a frustrated state of mind?
[19:01] <Akazawa> jsilvia: it's that quick drum diddle that sounds before you login
[19:01] <zinake> gnea: well, that's what it seems like.
[19:02] <unop> GeForce88, /path/to/gpgme.h is a ficticious name - and how do you know gpgme is newest?
[19:02] <zinake> gnea: it didn't seem to be a bug, just a permissions issue
[19:02] <zinake> gnea: no need to send a bug for that
[19:02] <puff> zinake: While people here can be obtuse sometimes (even when they're *trying* to help) you will find it a lot more useful to assume they are trying to help.
[19:02] <danopia> Gnea, ls -l says that my sahre is only writeable by root
[19:02] <Ste1> how do I launch a .sh file from cmd?
[19:02] <mongolai> sisif:  it seems as if MTP is not properly implemented
[19:02] <puff> zinake: If you did everything right and permissions are wrong, then yes, it's a bug.
[19:02] <Gnea> zinake: if the permissions aren't set correctly when the system is installed, and it prevents proper functionality from occurring, then yes, that is indeed a bug.
[19:02] <GeForce88> unop : Reading state information... Done
[19:02] <GeForce88> libgpgme11 is already the newest version.
[19:02] <unop> Ste1, chmod +x file.sh;  ./file.sh
[19:03] <Ste1> ok I didn't add ./ before the file. what does it do?
[19:03] <sisif> mongolai : using amarok works ok. Also, I am able to browse the device from within gnomad2. It`s just I can`t add music to it.
[19:03] <mongolai> sisif:  nice pun, BTW
[19:03] <puff> zinake: Sometimes people are busy and their tone ends up being abrupt, but they're still here, and still trying to help.
[19:03] <unop> GeForce88, what packagename does this say here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gpgme.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy
[19:03] <Gnea> puff: if the person is of a hostile mind and persona to begin with, sure.
[19:04] <sisif> mongolai : "pun" ?
[19:04] <rblst> azethoth: in terminal, type: alsamixer, check if anything is muted (MM), unmute them
[19:04] <GeForce88> unop, i install that package as well sir
[19:04] <Gnea> zinake: but i'm sorry if you felt offended by my words, that wasn't my intention.
[19:04] <GeForce88> unop : no change
[19:04] <puff> Gnea: It's easy to slip into that mindset when you're frustrated.
[19:04] <Gnea> puff: true.
[19:04] <azethoth> k one sec
[19:04] <unop> GeForce88,  make clean  - then try again
[19:04] <azethoth> nothing is muted
[19:04] <unop> GeForce88, make clean is important
[19:05] <puff> Gnea: E.g. I was asking for help generating multi-domain certs with openssl, last night, and somebody (elsechannel) responded with "did you read the openssl man page", which is useless advice.
[19:05] <GeForce88> unop, gpgme.h is located : /usr/include/gpgme.h
[19:05] <GeForce88> make clean in which directory? the gyachi one ?
[19:05] <mongolai> sisif:  that's what I mean. MTP is not properly implemented, some features of some devices might work, but not all...
[19:05] <Gnea> danopia: okay - there's a translation issue going on when you add the samba layer to the unix filesystem layer - we should really discuss this in #samba
[19:05] <sisif> mongolai : what do you sugest shall I do ?
[19:06] <puff> Gnea: And often incredibly annoying when you've already read the page and either a) didn't see your answer or b) your answer is completely not there.
[19:06] <danopia> Gnea, but only root can touch the share
[19:06] <Lovok> Conky is saying my Swap RAM usage is 0/2.80GB, is that normal?
[19:06] <jewelz12502> Digg brought down the Codeweavers servers
[19:06] <mongolai> sisif:  Does amarok work to transfer *to* the device?
[19:06] <puff> Gnea: So it can come off as incredibly annoying, but that's just because you're in a frustrated state of mind.
[19:06] <rblst> azethoth: are master and PCM set to a value other than 0 in alsamixer?
[19:06] <Pici> Lovok: yes.
[19:06] <sisif> mongolai : yes, it does.
[19:07] <Lovok> ﻿Pici: thanks again :)
[19:07] <jsilvia> Akazawa: I think the file you want is in /usr/share/sounds
[19:07] <Gnea> puff: basically you were looking for some sort of example script or some such. yeah, the manpage only goes so far, but a simple "yes, but i need this, that and the other thing" will usually get them out of the read-the-fine-manual glaze :)
[19:07] <azethoth> yeah everything is at max
[19:07] <vitamin-carrot> i can has a question?
[19:07] <rblst>  azethoth: what desktop do you use?
[19:07] <kc8pxy> is there a way to tell a prog it can allocate as much memory as it wants?   i'm trying to run oblivion on wine, ad i think it's running into a memory ceiling
[19:08] <puff> Gnea: Well, that's what I started wtih :-).
[19:08] <azethoth> i just installesd the ultimate edition of ubuntu 19 i beleive
[19:08] <trebelab>  /server irc.goto10.org
[19:08] <azethoth> 1.9 i mean
[19:08] <puff> Gnea: I'm trying to do weird thing XYZZY with SSL certs, does anybody really know this stuff well?
[19:09] <Gnea> puff: heh... that's usually about the time that i google for something like "ubuntu ssl certification generation guide"
[19:09] <rblst> azethoth: let us suppose it's gnome then, have you tried to play around with System->Settings->Sound?
[19:09] <azethoth> ah yeah it is gnome sorry
[19:09] <vitamin-carrot> I share my EXT2 file systems with my windows OS ... I bought a new HD formated to ext2 but windows wont let me assigned a drive letter to it ...
[19:09] <Gnea> puff: without the quotes :)
[19:09] <azethoth> no cant say i have lets see what i get
[19:09] <mongolai> sisif:  then the issue seems to be with gnomad2? You could check the version of gnomad2 has this issue in general, and see if any updates fixed it. If so, you might need to find a new version from the PPA repos (or somewhere else)
[19:09] <puff> Gnea: Heh, yeah.  Well, it turns out that it's really weird (and I haven't *quite* accomplished it yet, but I think I'm on my way) but doable.
[19:09] <GeForce88> unop: unless i need to specify the path to the gpgme file, this is a lost cause for me
[19:09] <vitamin-carrot> and before you ask
[19:09] <Gnea> danopia: try sudo chmod 777 /media/shared
[19:10] <danopia> Gnea, chmod refuses to doa nything to the drive
[19:10] <sisif> mongolai : ok. Thanks for the help :)
[19:10] <azethoth> what am i looking for on the first screen its all set to autodetect
[19:10] <vitamin-carrot> yes i have the EXT2 driver for windows installed
[19:10] <Gnea> danopia: what is it mounted as?
[19:10] <digitalfallacy> puff,what special abt the word one writes in double asterisk ... like *quite*
[19:10] <puff> Gnea:  Basically you have to not just self-sign, but self-CA, and set certain values in /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf,  and use certain options in the openssl ca command to copy those values into your cert.
[19:10] <azethoth> wow when i set the playback to also and tested it i got a tone
[19:10] <unop> GeForce88,  sudo aptitude install  	 libgpgme11-dev;  make clean;  ./configure && make
[19:10] <jpeasy> hi. I need to transfer /home to another partition which I will then mount as /home
[19:10] <puff> digitalfallacy: I don't understand your question.
[19:10] <jpeasy> I tried a simple cp -R as root, but I get lots of perm errors
[19:11] <infinite_> Hello im having trouble removing a driver.error:Removing nvidia-glx ...
[19:11] <infinite_> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[19:11] <infinite_> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[19:11] <infinite_> Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-glx
[19:11] <infinite_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:11] <FloodBot3> infinite_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <jpeasy> cp -R /home /mnt/backup
[19:11] <infinite_> I also tried to remove /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 manually as said here:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/3662
[19:11] <vitamin-carrot> inf
[19:11] <vitamin-carrot> stop it
[19:11] <rblst> azethoth: try changing them and press test to check
[19:11] <mongolai> digitalfallacy:  it's for *emphasis*
[19:11] <danopia> Gnea, FAT32
[19:11] <bremb1> jpeasy: all you need to create that partition, copy all files to it and in /etc/fstab change it appropriately
[19:11] <danopia> Gnea, this PC is basicaly a file server and I need to get this shared drive wokring, if it won't work I'll have to run windows becuase it works perfectly on windows
[19:11] <azethoth> yep i got it now thanks
[19:11] <digitalfallacy> puf,you just wrote quite like  *quite* in double
[19:11] <azethoth> sound now works
[19:11] <digitalfallacy> puff....just that ...k
[19:11] <Gnea> puff: yeah, openssl can get pretty hairy, especially when it comes down to how they're supposed to be signed... there's a difference between generating a CA for secure-pop/imap and a secure CA for a network connection ;)
[19:11] <puff> Gnea: If you do so, you can set the subjectAltName property of your cert to included multiple domain names, and then you can use the same ssl server with a single IP for multiple domains without modern browsers comlaining.
[19:11] <Codedrunk_Work> !cron
[19:11] <azethoth> thanks a bunch
[19:12] <gluki> Hi, i have oracle installed corectly, also ISPconfig is installed and using port 8080. For oracle i'm setting port 8081. And i cant to connect to Oracle control panel via browser(127.0.0.1:8081/apex)
[19:12] <Codedrunk_Work> !ubottu
[19:12] <Codedrunk_Work> !anacron
[19:12] <puff> Gnea:  this is complicated further by the fact that I'm doing it under the ispconfig site managment tool :-).
[19:12] <Gnea> danopia: oh geez... can you get it converted to NTFS in windows with the convert.exe command? FAT32 blows fat chunks.
[19:12] <bobbo> rrittenhouse: ping
[19:12] <hendry> is there a USB install option for Ubuntu? I was thinking of installing it on a Thinkpad X40 which does not have a CDROM
[19:12] <legend2440> !separatehome | jpeasy
[19:12] <vitamin-carrot> hendry yes
[19:13] <Pici> !usb | hendry
[19:13] <Jowi> !install | hendry (see first link)
[19:13] <Oprtz> how to install ubuntu 8.10 from a USB HDD ? without burning the iso image to DVD, is this possible?
[19:13] <GeForce88> unop: no luck. still exiting with error code 2 and a host of gpgme errors
[19:13] <Gnea> puff: such a prestigeous hosting site should have clear and concise documentation for such a task :P
[19:13] <azethoth> now i got another question when i play video files with movie player in full screen the ficture is slightly pixelated. is there a way to fix that?
[19:13] <vitamin-carrot> !usb | Oprtz
[19:13] <unop> GeForce88, let's see the new output then.
[19:13] <chad> Is there a channel where i can ask a question about thunderbird on ubuntu ?
[19:13] <Oprtz> !usb
[19:14] <hendry> thanks guys, bye
[19:14] <azethoth> just seems kinda fuzzy and pixely i guess
[19:14] <mongolai> chad:  just ask. if someone directs you to #thunderbird (if it exists) then so be it :)
[19:14] <vitamin-carrot> axethoth
[19:14] <bremb1> Oprtz: you would have to open the image somehow, then boot the kernel and ramdisk there...
[19:14] <Oprtz> vitamin-carrot: thanks for the weblinks
[19:14] <vitamin-carrot> your welcome
[19:15] <puff> Gnea:  Yeah, ispconfig end-use docs seem non-existent, I think they sorta expect you to be used to cpanel (the commerical equivalent) enough to find your way around.
[19:15] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth ... is the media file small in resolution?
[19:15] <Oprtz> bremb1: okie
[19:15] <TigranG> Hi how can I reconfigure my keyboard from the console or how it would do it when installing ubuntu. I've tried from system->preference->keyboard and it works but when I restart it no longer works (some keys).
[19:15] <GeForce88> unop : http://pastebin.ca/1238901
[19:15] <RediXe> Is there a way to disable the alt+leftmousebutton for windows (using xubuntu but should be close to the same?)
[19:15] <Gnea> puff: and they don't have a forum somewhere where people are talking about?
 Hi, i have oracle installed corectly, also ISPconfig is installed and using port 8080. For oracle i'm setting port 8081. And i cant to connect to Oracle server control panel via browser(127.0.0.1:8081/apex)
[19:15] <azethoth> 768x432
[19:15] <Tundrayeti312> Is virtualBox the standard virtual machine for ubuntu?
[19:15] <chad> ok .. so i copied my thunderbird profile from another machine to this machine (ubuntu to ubuntu) and for some reason it seems that the profile settings cant be edited by this user.  when i ls-l them it shows me as the owner, but the coloring is off in comparision to the other folders in my home .
[19:16] <bremb1> Oprtz: I am not sure if that would work, but, if you know what you're doing, you cannot lose anything, but time
[19:16] <unop> GeForce88, your error keeps changing - it's not the same - review the output, identify which header is missing, install it and repeat the process
[19:16] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: do you maximize the media when it is playing?
[19:16] <danopia_> Gnea, FAT32 USB drive, why woun't chmod work?
[19:16] <mongolai> chad:  are they links?
[19:16] <azethoth> yeah thats how i did it in windows
[19:16] <azethoth> i jsut want to sitch to this
[19:16] <bremb1> Oprtz: do you know how to open the image?
[19:16] <GeForce88> unop: ok. wish me luck
[19:16] <Gnea> danopia_: is that a thumbdrive or a hard drive?
[19:16] <danopia_> Tundrayeti312, I use vmware :P
[19:16] <azethoth> and they looked fine there
[19:16] <Jowi> gluki, "sudo lsof -i tcp:8081" to see what program (if any) is using that port
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> hmmmm
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: what player are you uing?
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> *using?
[19:17] <sebsebseb> can someone remind me, how I do a ssh/vnc sleep.  I mean where someone gets on my SSH, and then have say  5 minutes where unless they enter another command for vnc in another terminal, they get kicked off my ssh.   yes  that ssh sleep stuff.  I have to do something to the Ubuntu account, but I don't ermember exactly what, and maybe edit a config file for ssh sleep as well
[19:17] <TigranG> Hi how can I reconfigure my keyboard from the console or how it would do it when installing ubuntu. I've tried from system->preference->keyboard and it works but when I restart it no longer works (some keys).
[19:17] <azethoth> just said "movie player"
[19:17] <Gnea> danopia_: because FAT32 has *NO* concept of file permissions. it wasn't until NTFS that microsoft got around to enacting true permission control at the filesystem layer.
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> have you tried mplayer?
[19:17] <infinite_> hello im having serious trouble removnig a driver.It keeps me from installing any new packages. http://paste.ubuntu.com/63716/plain/
[19:17] <danopia_> Gnea, 500 GB harddrivre
[19:17] <azethoth> let me see if i can find it
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> it should be in the repos
[19:17] <danopia_> Gnea, one half is what LInux runs off (ext3) and hte other half is FAT32 partition that I need to sahre
[19:17] <vitamin-carrot> brb having a smoke
[19:17] <danopia_> Gnea, so what iA need to konw is how can I get a user accout to get write acess to it.
[19:17] <Oprtz> bremb1: i am reading the weblinks vitamin-carrot gave me
[19:18] <gluki> nothing is shown
[19:18] <chad> mongolai: not that i know of .. my pop profile is working fine its just when i go to add a new mail account to that profile none of the settings will sqave
[19:18] <bremb1> TigranG: you have to change it in the xorg.conf file. there is keyboard layout settings
[19:18] <danfg> danopia_: set that up on /etc/fstab, the permissions, etc
[19:18] <gluki> 2 Jowi - no output for this command
[19:18] <chad> mongolai: its weird though cause they are like green txt on green background where all the other folders are blue
[19:18] <danopia_> danfg, how would I do that in fstab?
[19:18] <azethoth> forgive my noobishnesws but where might i find  that. i know to go to applications -sound and video and i get a list of players but i dotn see m player in there
[19:18] <Jowi> gluki, so no program is using port 8081 - no wonder you cannot connect to it.
[19:19] <danopia_> danfg, I use /dev/sdb1	/media/shared	auto	defaults	0	0
[19:19] <Gnea> danopia_: if i were you, i would backup all of the data from the FAT32, reformat it to NTFS, then use the ntfs-3g driver on it (it handles read/write just fine) and share it like that - you'll get MUCH better performance
[19:19] <gluki> 2 Jowi do u have Oracle installed or tried?
[19:19] <Jowi> gluki, no
[19:19] <chad> mongolai: actually its blue txt on green background
[19:19] <danopia_> Gnea, I already use NTFS for a third partion :P but I don't have any place to throw 200 GB of junk
[19:19] <danopia_> Gnea, I need to get working as-is
[19:19] <mongolai> chad:  I just almost sent something...
[19:19] <bremb1> TigranG: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, down there Section InputDevice, keyboard,...
[19:20] <TigranG> bremb1: http://rafb.net/p/YBuhi033.html
[19:20] <danopia_> Gnea, I use FAT32, NTFS, and ext3 at the same time normally.
[19:20] <gluki> 2 Jowi may be you can help me to detect where is my errors?
[19:20] <mongolai> chad:  can you pastebin the out of ls -l on the directory in question>
[19:20] <danopia_> /dev/sda2	/media/windows	auto	defaults	0	0              /              /dev/sdb1	/media/shared	auto	defaults	0	0
[19:20] <chad> sure
[19:20] <lol> hi help i need plz help in icelandic
[19:21] <chad> !paste
[19:21] <gluki> 2 Jowi i have installed also ISPconfig that using port 8080 and changing apache2 settings
[19:21] <bremb1> TigranG: yes, that's what you're looking for. change it to whatever you want...
[19:21] <vitamin-carrot> okies im back
[19:21] <Tundrayeti312> danopia_: are the packages in the repos for vmware?
[19:21] <chad> mongolai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63722/
[19:21] <TigranG> bremb1: i think it already is...lol
[19:21] <mongolai> chad:  also, how did you transfer the profile (files)? samba?
[19:21] <Jowi> sebsebseb, the setting is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. the manual ( "man sshd_config" in a terminal) say to use the option "ClientAliveInterval" and "ClientAliveCountMax" to set the number of seconds for timeout
[19:21] <danfg> danopia_: i use these options: rw,nosuid,uid=1000(the uid of the user),gid=1000(gid of the user),umask=007
[19:21] <sebsebseb>  If I remember correctly to do the SSH sleep/timeout   I had to edit the account properites change Shell:  /bin/bash  to something else, and maybe also set up the amount of time I want before the sleep/timeout in  config file for ssh, but I don't remember how to do this stuff.   so  basically  user connects to my ssh in one terminal and then uses a second terminal to get on my vnc, with the first terminal not letting them do any other commadns
[19:21] <TigranG> bremb1: its ok
[19:21] <danopia_> danfg, so "rw" is what I need?
[19:21] <chad> external drive via nautilus copy
[19:22] <mongolai> chad:  you said all of these had the weird colors in the ls -l listing?
[19:22] <chad> mongolai: yes
[19:22] <danfg> danopia_: rw = read and write
[19:22] <monstah> how do i get b43-fwcutter drivers to work?
[19:22]  * vitamin-carrot Hugs everyone
[19:22] <bremb1> TigranG: the problem is ok or the settings are ok, but the problem still exists?
[19:22] <danfg> danopia_: the uid and gid to tell which user/group has access to the drive, i think that is important, security-wise
[19:22] <sebsebseb> Jowi: do I need to  change  /bin/bash in the account properites to something else as well?
[19:22] <Jowi> gluki, if oracle is supposed to serve the web-page then you should have a look at its config (and/or restart the service). I can't help more than that since I've never set up Oracle...
[19:23] <belkinhelp2> join /#dd-wrt
[19:23] <Jowi> sebsebseb, no
[19:23] <Guest34998> hi help i need plz help in icelandic
[19:23] <Gnea> danopia_: you need to also make sure that the share allows guest = yes
[19:23] <mongolai> chad:  OK first thing, are you sure that this is the correct *.default profile directory that you needed to copy to?
[19:23] <Gnea> !ask | Guest34998
[19:23] <danopia_> Gnea, done like 5 months ago
[19:23] <vitamin-carrot> does anyone speak Nord?
[19:23] <azethoth> hmm sunaptic cant find mplayer
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Jowi: I think last time that got changed.  basically user connects to my ssh in one terminal, and they are not allowed to enter any more commands in that terminal, instead they need to use a second terminal,  to put in a command to connect to my localhost for vnc
[19:23] <danfg> some ppl here speak Nerd
[19:23] <Guest34998> i need ubuntu icelandic channel
[19:23] <gluki> thanks, and ispconfig you have used?
[19:23] <azethoth> bah synaptic
[19:24] <danopia_> danfg, if I use umask=777 would the mouted fs be 777/
[19:24] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: have you allowed your third party sources?
[19:24] <chad> mongolai: ok i have done that .. the 9seovzeb.default is it .. i double checked
[19:24] <monstah> anyone know how to get Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[19:24] <monstah> to work?
[19:24] <danopia_> root@danopia:/media/shared# umount /media/shared
[19:24] <danopia_> umount: /media/shared: device is busy
[19:24] <danopia_> umount: /media/shared: device is busy
[19:24] <FloodBot3> danopia_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <danfg> danopia_: yes, and also every file in it, you shouldn't allow running execs from a windows drive though
[19:24] <RediXe> Is there a way to disable the alt+leftmousebutton for opened windows? (using xubuntu but should be close to the same?)
[19:24] <azethoth> wheres that option
[19:25] <Guest34998> plz can anyone tell me where i can find ubuntu icelandic help channel
[19:25] <danfg> danopia_: use -f (i think) to force dismount
[19:25] <Jowi> sebsebseb, that means that vnc is not set up properly (to only allow connections from the local host) or your firewall is not letting the traffic in. Nothing to do with ssh
[19:25] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: system > Administration > software sources
[19:25] <danfg> i just updated my linux kernel and i'm getting an error with XKB: "Error activating XKB configuration. (...)", i had a custom keyboard layout that was working before, but not anymore. ideas?
[19:25] <imaginativeone> where can I ask questions about K9Copy?
[19:26] <azethoth> one sec
[19:26] <mongolai> chad:  OK, so when you try to save a new account, does it *prevent* you from doing so, or just fail silently?
[19:26] <Gnea> Guest34998: try #ubuntu-is
[19:26] <danopia_> Opps I apsted
[19:26]  * danopia_ kills self
[19:26] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: it should have a list of check boxes
[19:26] <danfg> danopia_: ?
[19:26] <azethoth> i enabled the 4 options in third party software and it still cant find it
[19:26] <chad> mongolai: perfect example .. i need TLS on this new account i can check the button and then click ok and the option is erased when i click ok
[19:26] <Guest34998> there is no #ubuntu-is
[19:26] <Gnea> danopia_: eh?
[19:26]  * vitamin-carrot Dies
[19:26] <danopia_> My DSl dies every 30 seconds.
[19:26] <danopia_> It's ok.
[19:27] <vitamin-carrot> oh
[19:27] <Guest34998> !etiquette | tombar
[19:27] <Gnea> Guest34998: there you have your answer. we speak english here, are you okay with that?
[19:27]  * vitamin-carrot UnDies
[19:27] <vitamin-carrot> lolz undies
[19:28] <sebsebseb> Jowi: no it's for a listening vnc connection
[19:28]  * vitamin-carrot hugs danopia_
[19:28] <danopia_> Anyway.
[19:28] <danopia_> danfg, still failed :(
[19:28] <danopia_> danfg, it's still owned by root too
[19:28] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: please don't do that.
[19:28] <vitamin-carrot> i sorry
[19:28] <danopia_> and it's 755
[19:28]  * vitamin-carrot hugs Gnea
[19:28] <hwilde> unop, lshw | grep capacity     thnx
[19:28] <azethoth> i found a .tar.bz2 for mplayer but im not very good at makign that work yet
[19:29] <Lr5> If I upgrade from 8.04 to the 8.10 release candidate version instead of waiting for the final release, will anything be different or will they be completely same versions after updating packages?
[19:29] <mongolai> chad:  that's weird. I really don't know what to say, other than re-iterate your original question, and perhaps ask on #thunderbird on the irc.mozilla.org server
[19:29] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: do you have an ubuntu-related question?
[19:29] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: should be able to find it in add/remove
[19:29] <danfg> danopia_: ? did u set a uid and gid?
[19:29] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: im helping
[19:29] <danopia_> danfg, yes
[19:29] <azethoth> its installing an update atm maybe after that
[19:29] <danopia_> danfg, after i edit fstab, then what
[19:29] <GogetaX> hey all.. any1 can help me with network on ubuntu 8.10? :P
[19:29] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: but since you offerd
[19:29] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: then do it without the hugs and all of that, this isn't the proper forum for it.
[19:29] <Pici> !8.10 | GogetaX
[19:29] <chad> mongolai: do you have thunderbird?  will you check your .mozilla-thunderbird/Profile directory to see what permissions are on your direcory ?
[19:30] <lindenle> how  do i specify a  preseed file from the mini iso?
[19:30] <mongolai> chad:  if you can give me a few minutes...
[19:30] <bremb1> Lr5: go to Ubuntu+1 for intrepid issues
[19:30] <lindenle> and auto install
[19:30] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: my ext2 driver in windows wont let me assign a volume letter to a new hd i formated to ext2 with gparted
[19:30] <chad> mongolai: thank you
[19:30] <arash> anyone know what CMS system ubuntu.com uses?
[19:30] <danfg> danopia_: you do realize that changes to fstab require a restart, right? but before you boot, try mounting with mount using these options to see if they are to your liking
[19:30] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: why not?
[19:30] <chad> mongolai: and who owns those folders too please .. i would assume its your account since its the home dir but who knows
[19:30] <danopia_> danfg, oh right
[19:31] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: I think the permissions are wrong
[19:31] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: using what driver?
[19:31] <danopia_> danfg, thanks, it worked
[19:31] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: the EXT2 volume manager sees it but doesnt give me the option
[19:31] <danopia_> no nobody has write
[19:31] <danopia_> now I need to see if samba works
[19:31] <mongolai> chad:  I have to re-install it, and set up a mail account, but I'll give it a shot :)
[19:31] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: what driver did you install in windows?
[19:31] <mongolai> chad:  it'll take about 10 min
[19:32] <chad> mongolai: dont do all that .. ill find out :-d thanks though
[19:32] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: hang on ill find the link again
[19:32] <rblst> mongolia, chad: i can paste my permissions, i have TB set up
[19:32] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[19:32] <mongolai> chad:  well, I really don't like evolution anyways, and was planning to do this anyway. Now;s just a perfect time
[19:32] <sebsebseb> Jowi: not suer what to edit in the config file
[19:32] <danfg> oh no, ron paul has quit :(
[19:32] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: that one
[19:32] <Guest33839> does any one know which mail client that works with microsoft exchange 5.5 ?
[19:33] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: you must not have re-run the configuration setup
[19:33] <mongolai> Guest33839:  if anything, evolution does
[19:33] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: actually i did
[19:33] <g_> hello, how can I browse the samba shares on my network with xfce?
[19:33] <[admin]> Guest34998, thunderbird and evolution
[19:33] <Meads> can somebody help me please
[19:33] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: Bah
[19:33] <danopia_> and btw Gnea, I already had samba set up right, swat did not help at all :P and I don't see why it would
[19:33] <mongolai> mohamed:  if anything, evolution does
[19:33] <[admin]> !ask | Meads
[19:33] <Guest34998> !ask | meads
[19:33] <danopia_> It only helps with, like, the status sectoin
[19:33] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: im sure its a permissions thingy
[19:33] <chad> mongolai: awesome .. ill brb then baby changin time :-D
[19:33] <Meads> Can somebody take a look at this please, http://rafb.net/p/teC3C896.html
[19:34] <azethoth> vitamin-carrot: in synaptic on the main screen i have an area labled packages and tabs saying installed version and such. if i scroll down i see mplayer. if i click on it it says the chosen action also effects other packages. than thers a field that says to be removed and it says gnome mplayer gui
[19:34] <Guest27806> mongolai: :?
[19:34] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: well i don't know, maybe someone else does
[19:34] <mongolai> chad:  cool beans
[19:34] <Meads> i am having problems with ym ps running ubuntu server 8.04.1
[19:34] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: can i have a hug then?
[19:34] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: maybe google will tell me
[19:34] <[admin]> Meads, dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:34] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: you've already been informed about that.
[19:34] <Meads> i did that
[19:34] <[admin]> Meads, just do that with sudo
[19:34] <lindenle> Can i use preseed with the minimal cd
[19:35] <[admin]> Meads, with sudo  ?
[19:35] <rblst> chad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63729/
[19:35] <Meads> i done that if u look right down past the apt error u will see the dpkg error
[19:35] <gregbrady> I seem to be having an issue trying to connect to an external mysql database from Base.  I installed the mysql connector and I still cannot get it to connect successfully.  I am running OO.o 2.4 Under Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit version
[19:35] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: you might have mplayer already installed
[19:35] <[admin]> Meads, ibex ? 8.10 ?
[19:35] <azethoth> ah no i think i figured it out. right click mark for installation
[19:35] <Meads> i dont know what that is
[19:35] <g_> is there a way to integrate samba share browsing with thunar?
[19:36] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: coolies
[19:36] <[admin]> Meads, dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:36] <[admin]>  
[19:36] <[admin]> Meads, sorry i meant cat /etc/lsb-release | grep DESCRIPTION
[19:36] <madel> mongolai: with which mail client ?
[19:36] <Lr5> bremb1: ok, thanks. I guess I misunderstood the "development" part
[19:36] <Cripps> I have a paste here (http://www.pastebin.ca/1238917) showing a line in my fstab, and the resulting output from mount -a  ... I've done the same thing (tm) manually (read: mount -t cifs //workstation/My\ Music /home/acripps/music -o dom=DOMAINNAME,credentials=/home/acripps/.creds ) and had successful results, but it doesn't seem to like my fastab. Any ideas?
[19:37] <Meads> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04.1"
[19:37] <subone> is there an app i can use to tag snippets of code or notes, so i can search using tags?
[19:37] <mongolai> madel:  what?
[19:37] <Meads> ?
[19:37] <Cripps> subone, have you tried cscope?
[19:37] <rblst> chad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63730/
[19:37] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: I may as well have the HDD automount in ubuntu anyways
[19:37] <madel> mongolai: you know which mail client works with microsoft exchange 5.5 ?
[19:37] <[admin]> Meads, type date
[19:38] <subone> Cripps: no
[19:38] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: whats the cmd for automount volume
[19:38] <Meads> Mon Jun 29 15:44:05 EDT 1931
[19:38] <mongolai> madel:  I'm not sure, but if anything, the Evolution client would. It should
[19:38] <Meads> thats messed up right
[19:38] <Cripps> subone, it works with vim ... there should be other compatible editors too. It does what you're looking for.
[19:38] <madel> mongolai: ok thanks :)
[19:38] <[admin]> Meads, correct your date first then run sudo dpkg -- ......
[19:38] <kthakore> how can I edit the folder that the PIctures Folder screensaver gets the images from?
[19:38] <pen> I accidentally mv two file into the same filename
[19:38] <Meads> how do i correct my date from shell
[19:38] <pen> how can I recover the previous file?
[19:38] <subone> Cripps: i only see KScope the IDE in aptitude
[19:38] <sahak> Can anybody listen to preset HBR1 radio stations in rhythmbox under Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:38] <pen> HELP
[19:38] <Meads> its a VPS you see
[19:39] <Guest34998> !ask | pen
[19:39] <Guest34998> !patience | pen
[19:39] <kthakore> Meads, its gets ur date from ur system date settings
[19:39] <pen> Guest34998: you didn't see my previous comments
[19:39] <[admin]> Meads, date  -s, --set=STRING          set time described by STRING
[19:39] <subone> Cripps: all i want is like a notepad like tomboy notes but with tag searching
[19:39] <Gnea> Guest34998: once was enough.
[19:39] <azethoth> when i open a file with mplayer i get this message. error opening/initializing the seclected video_out(-vo)device
[19:39] <azethoth> seems liek somethign to do with my vid card?
[19:39] <subone> i guess i could write one as my first Qt app :p
[19:40] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: did all the dependacies install aswell?
[19:40] <pen> I accidentally mv two files into the same filename. How can I recover the previous file?
[19:40] <azethoth> no i think jsut the program
[19:40] <[admin]> pen, i don't think you can
[19:40] <subone> anyone else have any suggestions?
[19:40] <[admin]> sorry
[19:40] <primski> whats the preffered way to changing default locales ? I want to keep language english and changing other locales settings.
[19:40] <Cripps> subone, http://cscope.sourceforge.net/ read there, it'll tell you all about cscope ... I know that in hardy you can "apt-get install cscope"
[19:40] <pen> [admin]: why can't?
[19:40] <Jeruvy> pen: unless you mv'd a backup first you can't
[19:40] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: i think mplayer needs the restricted codecs make sure your restricted sources are on
[19:40] <pen> Jeruvy: no other way?
[19:40] <[admin]> pen,  you didn't mv you overwritten the old file with the new one
[19:40] <Jeruvy> pen: no, mv is destructive
[19:40] <sahak> #ubuntu+1
[19:41] <eyesz> hello, I have a pci to rs232 ite8817 card. I've got tired searching for away to let work in ubuntu, any help please?
[19:41] <subone> Cripps: no thats not what i'm looking for, i want something way simpler than that, i just need to be able to tag notes like you can tag photos
[19:41] <azethoth> where might i find that option. i really appreciate allt he help
[19:41] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: System > Administration > Software Sources
[19:41] <pen> Jeruvy: not even dd?
[19:42] <Jeruvy> pen: now if you want to find a data recovery tool and check before messing further you 'may' have some luck...
[19:42] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: make sure that proprietry drivers is checked
[19:42] <azethoth> i dont even see that option
[19:42] <Cripps> subone, I see. Well then, I can't say I know of anything that does precisely that, but if worse comes to worse, you could always write one ;)
[19:42] <subone> Cripps: so that i can store things like notes on obscure function names in certain APIs and tag it with something that makes more sense
[19:42] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: you may as well have everything checked
[19:42] <azethoth> nvm i see it im fing blind
[19:42] <azethoth> it ids checked
[19:42] <pen> Jeruvy: btw, does gvim leave backup? I used gvim
[19:43] <vitamin-carrot> hmmm
[19:43] <subone> Cripps: yeah thats what i was thinking that would give me something to do for my first Qt app, but i'd have to figure out db access etc
[19:43] <Meads> admin: Thank you very much, it is fixed
[19:43] <pen> or vim
[19:43] <[admin]> pen, [filename]~
[19:43] <Jeruvy> pen: I don't know.  Try reviewing the 'man' page..
[19:43] <Gnea> [admin]: the inodes should still be accessible
[19:43] <[admin]> vim .[filename].swp
[19:43] <Gnea> !undelete | pen
[19:43] <Cripps> subone, if you use python, database access is a snap. not too bad with java either.
[19:44] <subone> Cripps: lemme learn one thing at a time here lol
[19:44] <[admin]> Gnea, yup why not , but not always , since mv might use the same inodes
[19:44] <eyesz> anyone?
[19:44] <Cripps> subone, lol. Writing in C++ ?
[19:44] <hubar> hmm, does anyone know what format publishers prefer (the submission in) ?
[19:44] <Cripps> hubar, *shudders* *.doc
[19:44] <Cripps> hubar, give 'em a pdf
[19:44] <subone> Cripps: yeah learning Qt
[19:45] <stelt> how do i access my Vista files from Ubuntu ?
[19:45] <balachmar> Hi, my sounds is hanging at the moment, repeating a very small piece of sound. How can I make it go normal again, without rebooting?
[19:45] <Pici> !offtopic | hubar
[19:45] <[admin]> stelt, just mount the drive
[19:45] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: oh dear
[19:45] <joshua1> hi at all
[19:46] <azethoth> oh dear?
[19:46] <joshua1> i am having a problem with a dlink rt61 chipset w-lan card
[19:46] <hubar> en, I am sorry about the Ooff topic. :)
[19:46] <Gnea> stelt: share folders out with vista and use network neighborhood in ubuntu to find it
[19:46] <[admin]> Gnea, he/she was asking about a drive , not another PC
[19:47] <eyesz> I have a pci to rs232 ite8817 card. I've got tired searching for away to let work in ubuntu, any help please?
[19:47] <kevor> Hello, ive some problems with my dhcpserver, eth0 is configured as static ip, but when I start dhcpserver at boot, it gives the error that there is no subnet declaration for eth0 (169.254.7.55)
[19:47] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: im at a loss now ... as when i installed mplayer it installed allt he dependancies aswell
[19:47] <joshua1> according to the ubuntu wiki it should work out of the box since ubuntu 8.10, which it does not do, has anyone experiences with this chipset?
[19:47] <Gnea> [admin]: didn't see it specified
[19:47] <azethoth> well there are other downloads like mplayer doc and no gui.
[19:47] <subone> meh fuck it i'll just make a quick php app to do it
[19:47] <Pici> joshua1: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[19:47] <Pici> subone, Please watch your language in this channel, thank you.
[19:47] <[admin]> Gnea, it is hidden in the message :)
[19:47] <genii> kevor: 169.254.x.x is the number an eth gets when no dhcp server is found to give it a number
[19:48] <joshua1> pici: thank you, hope you dont mind
[19:48] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: if mplayer isnt going to work then remove it
[19:48] <Gnea> [admin]: suuure it is :)
[19:48] <kevor> genii: so where lies the problem then, in the DHCP server or in the static ip declaration?
[19:48] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: sorry dude ... was trying to see if the issue happens with a different player
[19:48] <_JayT_> echo audio drivers for ubuntu?
[19:49]  * vitamin-carrot Fails
[19:49] <balachmar> My sound is hanging and when I restart alsa using sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart it actually is still hanging!
[19:49] <genii> kevor: Does ifconfig  report the static IP you gave it as being there for eth0 ?
[19:49] <azethoth> ah well yeah out of all the players thata are on this install they all have the same issues
[19:49] <Handcrafted> On the 30th I'm going to install ubuntu on my eeepc. I'm going to install it on a SD-card and boot from that. Does anyone have a good guess about what boot times I can expect?
[19:49] <icc> hi! i need help with pure-ftp. I've some virtual users, but i can't login with them... any help??????
[19:49] <azethoth> some worse than others. some in full screen have video skip around
[19:49] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: indeed
[19:49] <[admin]> balachmar, try sudo fuser /dev/snd/pcm* and paste on paste.ubunto.com
[19:49] <kevor> genii: ifconfig gives no IP
[19:49] <Phoenix87_> http://www.buconero.eu/en/
[19:49] <histo> Hrm... No matter which keyboard I have plugged in the numpad will not work. Does anyone have a clue as to where to start looking?
[19:49] <Gnea> Handcrafted: the people in #ubuntu-eeepc might know
[19:50] <lindenle> is there a way to prevent the installer  from asking me about the keyboard layout?
[19:50] <azethoth> they look fine in window mode but when i go full screen its distorted a bit
[19:50] <Handcrafted> Gnea: wow, didn't know that channel existed! Thanks!
[19:50] <genii> kevor: eth0 is supposed to have it's own static IP, and then assign numbers on it's eth0 to some other computers?
[19:50] <Gnea> lindenle: no, i just hit enter a lot
[19:50] <balachmar> [admin]: it is only one line: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:    7113m
[19:50] <kevor> genii: if I ifdown eth0; ifup eth0, ifconfig eth0 gives the IP I have set in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:50] <_JayT_> any got echo audio drivers running under ubuntu?
[19:50] <kevor> yes, exactly
[19:50] <Gnea> Handcrafted: cheers :)
[19:50] <lindenle> Gnea: even with preseeding?
[19:50] <PatrickBic> lindenle, maybe using the oem installer
[19:50] <Gnea> lindenle: preseeding?
[19:51] <kevor> genii: now the DHCP server starts, but it does not do so at boot
[19:51] <[admin]> balachmar, sudo ps awux | grep 7113
[19:51] <azethoth> well actually it looks kinda weird in windowed mode too
[19:51] <lindenle> Gnea: yes preseeding
[19:51] <Gnea> lindenle: please define.
[19:51] <kevor> so somehow the settings in /etc/network/interfaces are not set on eth0
[19:51] <vitamin-carrot> azethoth: could be a codecs thing but i dont know enough to fix those
[19:51] <[admin]> histo, sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[19:51] <balachmar> [admin]: willem    7113  0.8  0.1 220616  5784 ?        Ssl  18:25   1:16 /usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --log-target=syslog
[19:51] <azethoth> ah no worries know where i migth be abel to find the answer
[19:51] <lindenle> Gnea: It is a feature of the debian installer so you do not have to answer questions, look at your documentation
[19:52] <joshua1> so well then i'm moving to #ubuntu+1, see you
[19:52] <histo> [admin]: No I found it accesibiltiy options had the pointer controlled by keypad enabled all is working now.
[19:52] <[admin]> balachmar, always pulse, i hate it, try sudo kill -15 7113
[19:52] <jlewis__> how do I unlock a locked file burned from a cd for backup
[19:52] <[admin]> histo, great for you
[19:52] <genii> kevor: Check then /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf   for proper subnet declarations of the range you want to assign
[19:52] <Gnea> lindenle: oh really? funny, I usually use the ubuntu installer when installing ubuntu and the debian installer when installing debian...
[19:52] <balachmar> [admin] -15 didn't work -9 did :)
[19:52] <[admin]> jlewis__, be more descriptive please
[19:53] <kevor> genii: i have the range set I want, corresponding to the proper static Ip that is set for eth0 (local nic)
[19:53] <lindenle> Gnea: Well ubuntu uses the debian installer so you are wrong
[19:53] <[admin]> balachmar, -9 is harmful , very actually , thats why i didn't give it to you
[19:53] <alpha> hello
[19:53] <logomen> hello
[19:53] <balachmar> [admin] I know... but still I always try that if other stuff doesn't work...
[19:53] <kevor> genii: when I ifup -a this happens: http://hulsteijn.net/strange
[19:54] <vitamin-carrot> ok
[19:54] <logomen> any on can help me to active root user in xubuntu console
[19:54] <jlewis__> I have some data that I burned for backup. I then did a fresh install of Ubuntu. Now, there is a little locked icon beside the file. I cant unlock it. Any thoughtsÉ
[19:54] <logomen> version 8.04
[19:54] <alpha> im not able to update my edgy box. the repositories answer 404 not found. are the lists changed or repos offline ?
[19:54] <vitamin-carrot> whats the cmd to automount a new hd that been formated to ext2?
[19:54] <Gnea> lindenle: no, you've told me that this 'preseeding' thing exists, but you haven't provided any information about it.  what documentation? url? i have better things to do than worry about something that's not bothering me.
[19:54] <alpha> @logomen : use sudo -s
[19:54] <mongolai> -9 *can* be harmful, especially if there is any IO request going on, or if there is a potential race condition that would leave the system vulnerable, but usually it's ok ;)
[19:54] <PatrickBic> jlewis__, tried as root?
[19:54] <[admin]> balachmar, if you waited for -15 a little bit it will do
[19:55] <logomen> alpha, thank try it now
[19:55] <balachmar> [admin] OK, will try to remember that!
[19:55] <jlewis__> PatrickBic, how do I try it as root
[19:55] <hwilde> is there some way I can virtualize vista inside ubuntu ?
[19:55] <PatrickBic> sudo nautilus and watch the folder
[19:55] <genii> kevor: That is the result of ifup on the machine that is supposed to be the dhcpd box, or the machine which is supposed to be dhcpclient ?
[19:55] <vitamin-carrot> hwilde: Suns Virtailbox
[19:56] <logomen> alpha, but who i can change user to root
[19:56] <logomen> ?
[19:56] <azethoth> hmm if i use command grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  i only have 2 lines drvier kbd and driver mouse could this be my issue
[19:56] <[admin]> mongolai, -9 does a force kill, no cleans no remove tmp no deletion of unwanted rabbish files, if you like these actions on your system join the -9 club
[19:56] <[admin]> :)
[19:56] <musictoto> hwilde: yes, use vmware, or QEMU
[19:56] <kevor> genii: i am on the DHCP server box
[19:56] <wahby> list/
[19:57] <enzotib> !virtualbox > hwilde
[19:57] <jlewis__> also, why do i get this symbol É when I use the question mark on my keyboardÉ
[19:57] <mongolai> [admin]:  You're Right, It's a Bad Idea (tm), but generally it's not going to mess everything up. Besides, it's fun to track down the problems it can cause
[19:58] <[admin]> mongolai, :D
[19:58] <PatrickBic> jlewis__, keyboard layout set to the wrong one :P
[19:58] <hwilde> vitamin-carrot, musictoto, enzotib,   what about parallels?  it looks like the bestest
[19:58] <jlewis__> PatrickBic, is there a way to change thatÉ I do not know much about linux
[19:58] <vitamin-carrot> I havent tried it
[19:59] <musictoto> hwilde: if you want to pay, vmware worked better for me
[19:59] <[admin]> jlewis__, system -> preferences -> keyboard and choose layout to your defaults
[19:59] <PatrickBic> jlewis__, i am not running it atm.. but its under the settings thingy (third "tab" in the gnome panel).. and then keyboard
[19:59] <alpha> @logomen : you dont change user to root, if your user has root access, you can use sudo ( read the sudo help page )
[19:59] <laughtear> good evening everyone, i need some urgent help about sharing files between 2 computers both have ubuntu operating system
[19:59] <vitamin-carrot> hwilde: QEmu and Suns Virtual box are free
[19:59] <musictoto> hwilde: but i must say that QEMU and virtual box come close to vmware and parallells
[20:00] <laughtear> anybody can give a hand about it
[20:00] <laughtear> ?
[20:00] <PatrickBic> samba server + samba clients
[20:00] <PatrickBic> @ laughtear
[20:00] <[admin]> laughtear, read more about NFS share
[20:00] <likel2> how can I install nvidia 169.04 in ubuntu intrepid ibex? there are two problems: 1-the XEN 2-the kernel version
[20:00] <Pokoloko> Hello all
[20:01] <lindenle> Gnea: then why did you answer...
[20:01] <binspace> Hello, is there a package for firefox2 on 8.10?
[20:01] <Gnea> lindenle: what's even more curious, is why you asked a question you already knew the answer to
[20:02] <tim167> my soundcard (echoaudio) doesn't work with alsa due to a bug in the kernel, is it fixed in the new kernel, and can i upgrade my kernel without reinstalling the whole system ? thanks
[20:02] <Pokoloko> Im having a minor problem which is still an annoyance i find that audio doesnt play as loud as it should be, is there anyway to fix this problem ?
[20:02] <Pici> binspace: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[20:02] <laughtear> PatrickBic: i have no idea what is that, and what am i suppose to with that. i am going to deliver my pc to a customer tomorrow, and need to copy my files to my notebook immediately, please feel yourself free to think that you're helping a dummy user.
[20:02] <lindenle> Gnea: Actually I asked a specific question about a feature, you don't know anything about  and yet you answered
[20:02] <lindenle> Gnea: This is not typically how IRC works
[20:02] <bremb1> tim167: of course you can upgrade only your kernel
[20:02] <tim167> bremb1: how ?
[20:02] <jaksa> hello where i can find unetboot guide?
[20:03] <zanberdo> anyone else run into trouble with nvidia-glx-new drivers not working under 2.6.24-21 on 32bit ubuntu with geforce 7600 video card?
[20:03] <bremb1> tim167: I recommend you to wait for Ubuntu 8.10, it's gonna have newest stable kernel 2.6.27
 laughtear, read more about NFS share
[20:03] <laughtear> there is no choice in the right click dropdown menu in this intrepid crap (sorry, hardy were far more better, i'm quite regretful about trying that)
[20:03] <PatrickBic> would be easier i guess
[20:03] <[admin]> lindenle, take easy, we are here sharing our time to help you, Gnea might figured you're talking about a topic known, but it is obvious not, so thank instead of injuring
[20:03] <mongolai> laughtear:  are the computers on the same network, and if so, can you ping each other?
[20:03] <lindenle> [admin]: fir enough
[20:04] <lindenle> Gnea: Sorry
[20:04] <laughtear> PatrickBic: what is NFS Share, where will i read 'em?
[20:04] <Gnea> lindenle: hi, this is #ubuntu. if i don't know, then maybe someone else knows, or maybe i'd be inclined to help find the answer for you.  however, your attitude didn't indicate as such.
[20:04] <tim167> bremb1: ok thanks, but i need my soundcard to work, so i want to try it anyway, can you give me a hint how to upgrade kernel ?
[20:04] <genii> kevor: Because your dhcp server box is itself seeming to be trying then to auto get a number instead of adhering to whatever you should have static ally set in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:04] <PatrickBic> google is your friend
[20:04] <Gnea> lindenle: it's alright
[20:04] <laughtear> mongolai: yes, they are both connected to my own router
[20:04] <lindenle> Gnea: Just a bit frustrated  with the documentation for pressed in Ubuntu
[20:04] <mongolai> laughtear:  You said Ibex? Is there a "Connect to Server..." option in the Places menu?
[20:05] <Gnea> lindenle: heh, it's a pretty stressful time everywhere. :)
[20:05] <[admin]> PatrickBic, for sure , it is only mapping starting a service and adding mount to fstab, and there you go , an online share between to linux systems
[20:05] <laughtear> PatrickBic: so you're sayin you either you don't care just messing with me, or you ain't know nothing? well good day to you SIR!
[20:05] <laughtear> mongolai: ok, checking
[20:05] <lindenle> Gnea: Yes >:
[20:05] <mpalatnik> laughtear: what's the question
[20:05] <laughtear> mongolai: which service type i'll choose?
[20:06] <laughtear> mpalatnik: please check above, i'm afraid of writing it again will confuse even me.
[20:06] <bremb1> tim167: sure. but are you sure you wanna do that? it can take you hours to set up new kernel configuration...
[20:06] <mongolai> laughtear:  since they're both ubuntu, SSH should be fine. It should open a SFTP session where you can drag and drop the files you need
[20:06] <mpalatnik> too much scrolling
[20:06] <[admin]> laughtear, http://www.how2forge.org/perfect-nfs-on-ubuntu-8.04-amd64
[20:06] <piasdom> is there an irc chat for talking about using win exchange in linux ?
[20:06] <[admin]> it could be applied on 32 also
[20:07] <tim167> bremb1: ok thanks for warning me, i don't have hours, so I'll just leave it for now...:)
[20:07] <[admin]> mongolai, i disagree, since the definition of the term share is not only access !!
[20:07] <laughtear> mongolai: ok, is the server path is the ip address of the pc on the network?
[20:07] <mongolai> laughtear:  yep.
[20:07] <bremb1> tim167: to build a new kernel you need quite a lot knowledge about computers, especcially about your computer
[20:07] <[admin]> laughtear, please read this turtorial about nfs shares http://www.how2forge.org/perfect-nfs-on-ubuntu-8.04-amd64
[20:08] <[admin]> !offtopic | bremb1
[20:08] <laughtear> mongolai: =( i have no idea what will write below: port
[20:08] <PatrickBic> laughtear, i say that my original idea is a samba-server + clients but from rethinking , nfs shares might be a better solution
[20:08] <laughtear> i'm about to use four letter words to the [admin], please stop, i have no time, and i said: i am a dummy
[20:08] <PatrickBic> no offense...
[20:09] <laughtear> there are dummy people in the world, and they may need to use a free ossed pc..
[20:09] <lolo> slt all
[20:09] <[admin]> laughtear, then don't ask here , or get some paid help
[20:09] <lindenle> Can someone  paste a working  ftp mirror?
[20:09] <Pokoloko> Is there anyway to make sound louder i find that the sound in ubuntu is very low
[20:09] <bremb1> admin: I wasn't talking off-topic
[20:09] <mongolai> laughtear:  22 for ssh, but it's possible that the ssh server is not installed. If not, then run a sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:09] <laughtear> [admin] you know what you say is equal to: i am an a..h...
[20:09] <lindenle> Or a linek to a list
[20:10] <Gnea> lindenle: generally, we work with the mainstream ubuntu installation disks that are out there - preseeding ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization ) is typically used for derivatives (xubuntu, fluxbuntu, elivecd, etc). that's why I regarded your question with such scrutiny, and that is also why I am not wrong.
[20:10] <laughtear> so please s..t up
[20:10] <Guest34998> !coc laughtear
[20:10] <Guest34998> !coc | laughtear
[20:10] <Guest34998> >:O
[20:10] <[admin]> !etiquette | laughtear
[20:10] <denneb> Yop.
[20:10] <mongolai> [admin]:  As i take it, laughtear just needed to copy some files, sftp would be sufficient
[20:11] <Gnea> laughtear: obfuscating those words doesn't mean that people can't read them. just don't.
[20:11] <laughtear> i've been for years on this channel, and i even tried to give some help about improving ubuntu better.
[20:11] <Jowi> sebsebseb, sorry. got a call. did you manage with the sshd_config?
[20:11] <laughtear> there ain't no response
[20:11] <laughtear> i believe in free softwares
[20:11] <[admin]> laughtear, im not sure you're correct, see your message (and i said: i am a dummy)
[20:11]  * zanberdo free software does not mean that one does not have to learn how to make it work.
[20:11] <Gnea> laughtear: hey, we all have our good and bad days, no need to take your frustrations out on us. if you really need to vent, please do it in #ubuntu-offtopic. for being here for years, you should know this.
[20:11] <laughtear> but i see some "people" offering me about buying an operating system
[20:11] <laughtear> that's a shame
[20:12] <mongolai> laughtear:  when you have the ssh-server installed, then transferring the files will be easy. lets just focus on that, perhaps
[20:12] <RediXe> Is there a way to disable the alt+leftmousebutton for opened windows? (using xubuntu but should be close to the same?)
[20:12] <laughtear> the question were so simple: there were a choice in hardy heron when you right click to a folder.. it was file sharing options
[20:12] <laughtear> here we are in ibex, i can't see that
[20:13] <lindenle> Gnea: So the mini.iso  from the ubuntu site is not a mainstream installer?
[20:13] <laughtear> maybe i have done somn' wrong
[20:13] <Jowi> RediXe, you mean to move windows?
[20:13] <laughtear> and my files stuck in my old pc which i have to deliver to someone tomorrow
[20:13] <RediXe> Jowi: When you alt+RM Click it grabs the window and moves it .. can I turn that off .. really kills me in gaming
[20:13] <mongolai> laughtear:  that's an issue to take up with the Ibex folks. If you need to transfer some files, I can help, but we'll have to do it my way. It'll work, but differently
[20:13] <bremb1> laughtear: if you're using Intrepid, you should discuss this in Ubuntu+1 channel
[20:14] <[admin]> laughtear, sudo apt-get install nautilus-share
[20:14] <laughtear> so, probably i go and buy a windows tonite, and say farewell both my files and to you all, is that the thing you work on it for hours, maybe years.
[20:14] <zanberdo> laughtear: you are using a release candidate of an OS that has not yet been released to the public. You might find that somethings have changed.  Bare in mind that just because a feature was easy does not mean the the underlying technology is. If the feature is absent there are many ways of acheiving the same results, it just might take more work.
[20:14] <Jowi> RediXe, yeah. should be doable. let me log into xfce. one moment.
[20:14] <laughtear> [admin]: finalyy, thank you
[20:14] <azethoth> is there a channel to help with video playbck issues?
[20:14] <[admin]> !ibex | laughtear
[20:14] <peepsalot> i think it would be interesting if there was a package manager that had user submitted reviews of software that you could read.
[20:14] <LjL> laughtear, what was your question again?
[20:14] <[admin]> laughtear, dont forget that, the share might not work on 8.10
[20:15] <Gnea> lindenle: no, it's not, but it is akin to the network-installer in debian
[20:15] <laughtear> [admin]: ok, i'll try
[20:15] <BrianR___> Where can I find information on the new "ipia" architecture - like the compiler and stuff?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo#
[20:15] <musictoto> LjL: he wants to share files between two ubuntu boxes in the same network, as fast as possible
[20:15] <ay^> I'd use my pendrive
[20:15] <zanberdo> laughtear: I susepct your decision to move to a paid-for operating system wouldn't make a difference one way or another to those who are dedicated to bring FOSS to the world.  For some a paid-for OS is a better choice.  For them there are 800 numbers to call for support... oh, and have your credit card handy
[20:16] <Gnea> lindenle: but i haven't used it yet, and we usually don't get many questions about it, so either people don't know about it or they use it without any issues
[20:16] <RediXe> Jowi: Welcome back :)
[20:16] <LjL> laughtear, musictoto: ok. so what's wrong with NFS?
[20:16] <Jowi> RediXe, in the settings manager you select "Window manager tweaks"
[20:16] <zanberdo> nfs, sshfs, ssh, samba, ftp... the list goes on and on
[20:16] <laughtear> zanberdo: that ain't my decision, read above please
[20:16] <Gnea> lindenle: OR, they ask questions about it when I'm not here :P
[20:16] <lindenle> Gnea: OK,  but I guess I would ask the same question using the full CD, just did not want to download the 800MB when I could just download 10MB
[20:16] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:16] <[admin]> LjL, i've been telling them to , no one heard
[20:17] <musictoto> LjL: nothing wrong, i'd do it with NFS
[20:17] <Jowi> RediXe, then click on the "Accessibility" tab and change the "Key used to grab and move windows"
[20:17] <LjL> good, so the problem is?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: gentoo is that way minded
[20:17] <laughtear> LjL: there is no Nautilus File Share (or whtvr), that's the situation on my pc
[20:17] <robheaton> leave ubuntu
[20:17] <zanberdo> laughtear: I've been reading what amounts to a tiraid because you can't figure out how to do sometihng in a release candidate os that you can do in a fully released and supported os.
[20:17] <Jowi> RediXe, you can set it to None if needed
[20:17] <LjL> laughtear: Nautilus has nothing to do with it. well, i thought NFS support was installed by default, but it should be easy to get installed. do you know how to install software?
[20:17] <mongolai> laughtear:  did you try to sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:17] <laughtear> zanberdo: all rite, i get i
[20:17] <laughtear> i get it
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> laughtear: samba works flawlwssly here
[20:17] <RediXe> Jowi: Woooo thank you :) .. I did .. too bad this is my work machine .. will have to do it once I get home to my gaming rig
[20:18] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: yeah but gentoo typically makes you compile everything once it's downloaded. many hours/days later, you get a desktop... with ubuntu, boom, there it is within an hour or 2
[20:18] <Jowi> no probs RediXe.
[20:18] <laughtear> mongolai: i have some knowledge about it (i had to..=))
[20:18] <puff> Gnea: So, I just tried to finish that ssl cert thing and, no dice, it doesn't appear to be working.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: its from a time when bandwidth was less. binary is bigger than source
[20:18]  * zanberdo uses gentoo on lappy and kubuntu on desktop. likes them both
[20:18] <laughtear> [admin]: it's done, but nothing changed
[20:18] <puff> Gnea: You know much about this stuff?
[20:18] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:18] <zerwas> I'm looking for a mechanism or script that enables me to have the folder icons in nautilus replaced (or added as emblems?) by the images that are in these folders. Is that possible?
[20:18] <kkathman> laughtear,  been using samba for years..and its running here connected to both windows, linux and macs
[20:18] <mongolai> laughtear:  so the sshd is installed on both machines?
[20:19] <bremb1> gnea: yes, but on gentoo, you get everything compiled and optimized for your arch
[20:19] <Gnea> puff: from the commandline, a bit - you might want to see if there's an #ispconfig or something like that
[20:19] <[admin]> laughtear, dpkg -l | grep -E '(samba|smb)' paste.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <puff> Gnea: I'm not sure it's an ispconfig problem. I'm pretty sure I gotthat bit sorted out, it's the subjectAltName giving me problems, I think.
[20:19] <lindenle> Gnea: Anyway so far I am not having a lot of luck
[20:19] <ricco_> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:19] <puff> Gnea: There's an #ispconfig but it's invite-only.
[20:19] <laughtear> i'm sure about it. look people, i can see a windows network in network, but it's useless, because there's now no windows, i wanna use the default file sharing of ubuntu
[20:19] <Gnea> bremb1: if you don't mind waiting and going something else while it's doing that, sure. there's a difference between people who use an OS to get things done for a living and those who have the time to tinker and have fun with it.
[20:20] <lindenle> Gnea: Still asks me about keyboard layout and to define the mirror though i have put those in the preseed file
[20:20] <[admin]> laughtear, the default one for all linux is nfs share
[20:20] <bremb1> gnea: sure, I just wanted both sides of one coin metioned :)
[20:20] <zanberdo> so, I will ask again as a fair piece of time has past: anyone run into a problem after upgrading to kernel 2.6.24-21 loading nvidia-glx drivers?
[20:20] <puff> Hm.
[20:20] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: that sure hasn't stopped any of the package maintainers :)
[20:20] <LjL> laughtear: but ubuntu doesn't come with a *default* sharing system
[20:20] <Gnea> bremb1: i'm all for that :)
[20:20] <LjL> [admin]: how's it default, if it's not even installed?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: no problems here
[20:20] <laughtear> [admin]: before that, i saw samba in add-remove (not installed). could that help?
[20:21] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: question: what vid card do you have installed?
[20:21] <[admin]> laughtear, sure
[20:21] <LjL> laughtear: Samba is made to communicate with Windows networks. of course, you can also use it between Ubuntu machines if desired.
[20:21] <KevinO> there is a bug on my screen
[20:21] <zanberdo> KevinO: squash it
[20:21] <laughtear> [admin]: ok, so than doing that
[20:21] <Gnea> KevinO: i recommend a swift hand
[20:21] <[admin]> LjL, yes, sure, also nmap is not installed , but it is the default port mapping
[20:21] <bremb1> zanberdo: none problem here. what's happening?
[20:21] <Jowi> KevinO, smash it. but carefully. don't break it
[20:21] <LjL> [admin]: err? how so?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] onboard
[20:22] <[admin]> LjL, how would you check if a port is opened on a remote server/client ?
[20:22] <LjL> [admin]: because something makes it so, or just because you'd like it to be?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: i use envy
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: its great
[20:22] <LjL> [admin]: with any portscanner (nmap isn't a "port mapping"). there are *several* in the official repositories.
[20:22] <LjL> [admn]: for that matter, you can just use "telnet"
[20:22] <Jowi> KevinO, I guess they are attracted by the light. somehow it was worse on the old CRT screens
[20:22] <zanberdo> bremb1: it seems that the nvidia driver is not loading.  I've checked Xorg.0.log for errors but can't find any.  When I boot back to 2.6.24-19 the nvidia drivers load as expected.  NOTE: I installed from apt nvidia-glx-new
[20:22] <Guest34998> !jowi | o
[20:23] <[admin]> LjL, nop , i've been administrating linux for 7 years now, we have 14 million visitors per day, i know what im talking about
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: do you get the nvidia logo?
[20:23] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: ok. I'm using geforce 7600 and not envy.
[20:23] <laughtear> [admin]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63749/
[20:23] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: nope.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f31afda0c
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: no logo == no driver
[20:23] <LjL> [admin], it doesn't sound to me like you know what you're talking about. there is no "default" portscanner in Ubuntu, and there is no "default" file sharing mechanism. prove otherwise if i'm mistaken.
[20:24] <megatog615> anyone know why my second cpu core is disabled in intrepid?
[20:24] <laughtear> [admin]: there still no file sharing options in right click drop down
[20:24] <jlewis__> Could someone help me please? I have locked files from a burned CD (backup) that now has a locked icon beside it. How do I unlock the file folder?
[20:25] <binyah> !ibex | megatog615
[20:25] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: right. my xorg.conf is close enough to yours given that we have different GPU's.  And right, no logo no driver.  Why I find odd is that booting to my previous kernel works.  So, it seems to me that it's a kernel issue, not a driver issue.
[20:25] <megatog615> that doesnt help
[20:25] <bremb1> zanberdo: I am as well using GeForce 7600 Go
[20:25] <mongolai> jlewis__:  did you copy them to the computer (your home folder possibly)?
[20:25] <[admin]> laughtear, right click any folder, you'll find sharing options
[20:25] <megatog615> obviously i know its broken
[20:25] <megatog615> is there a fix?
[20:25] <Elswyyr> Hello, could someone help me with partitioning my hard drive?
[20:25] <Flare183> megatog615: Not yet
[20:25] <zanberdo> bremb1: and you have not trouble with the upgrade to -21?
[20:25] <megatog615> is it a known issue?
[20:25] <laughtear> lewis__: try right click, properties, then permissions and change the choices to read and write...
[20:25] <Raylz> bremb1: i use a geforce go 7600 too
[20:26] <jlewis__> mongolai, yes.
[20:26] <zanberdo> bremb1: s/not/had no/
[20:26] <erUSUL> jlewis__: change permissions the lock icon means the file is read only afaics
[20:26] <mongolai> jlewis__:  see ^^ laughtear's advice
[20:26] <laughtear> [admin]: i can swear that there is no such option
[20:26] <KevinO> Jowi, no, there is a bug crawling around on my screen that part of some software, i assume a holiday trick from Ubuntu
[20:26] <[admin]> laughtear, then there is something wrong, still on 8.10  ?
[20:26] <megatog615> Flare183: is it a known issue?
[20:26] <Hoover_4000> megatog615: hi
[20:26] <mongolai> KevinO:   is it a fish (seriously)
[20:26] <zanberdo> Elswyyr: general rule: use two parts: one for swap at RAM x2 and one for /.  Anything else requires you to know more about your system usage than you might wish to be bothered with.
[20:27] <bremb1> sorry guys, I need to go. so far I have had no problem with it. Maybe next time I'll be able to help...
[20:27] <Flare183> megatog615: yeap
[20:27] <laughtear> yes, this is an intrepid, updating itself daily about tens of megabytes...=(
[20:27] <Hoover_4000> megatog615: go to the to 8.10 support channel
[20:27] <KevinO> it looks like a tick with antelope antlers
[20:27] <[admin]> laughtear, can help no more
[20:27] <Flare183> !8.10
[20:27] <Hoover_4000> megatog615: you will get better help there
[20:27] <Raylz> bremb1: ubuntu kernels are usually sh*t anyway, try to compile your own ones
[20:27] <mikebeecham> wonder if anyone can help me...I started going through the installation process of 8.04 this evening and got stumped at the partition section.  I could not create either a swap partition or set aside amount for linux partition.  it seemed to ONLY want to overwrite the full partition (80Gb)
[20:27] <[admin]> laughtear, see this -> WARNING: lots of broken software between now and October 30th!
[20:27] <Elswyyr> Well, the problem is that i can't resize my windows partition no matter what i try
[20:27] <laughtear> i need to be a boss between the developer guys... bring me to there..=P
[20:27] <binyah> !coc | raylz
[20:27] <mikebeecham> can anyone pm me with some help :D
[20:27] <Fazer2> how do I start KDE? I've downloaded it already
[20:27] <Flare183> !language | Raylz
[20:27] <laughtear> [admin]: sure, i know that...
[20:28] <mongolai> KevinO:  you *might* have added the "Fish" to the panel, which does something like what you describe
[20:28] <Flare183> Fazer2: Logout and look for your sessions menu and click on KDE
[20:28] <lindenle> Gnea: ok mirror problem solved
[20:28] <[admin]> !ask | mikebeecham
[20:28] <Fazer2> I've done this and there's no KDE in sessions
[20:28] <zanberdo> Elswyyr: have you tried burning a liveCD of qparted and used it to resize your windows part?
[20:28] <Raylz> ive just been disappointed by a lot of genkernels
[20:28] <KevinO> i dont believe so i just installed ubuntu a week ago
[20:28] <mike_> .
[20:29] <Flare183> ...>
[20:29] <Elswyyr> zanberdo, No i haven't, i'll try
[20:29] <Flare183> oops
[20:29] <mongolai> mikebeecham:  is there already an operating system on the HDD?
[20:29] <strAlan> how do you stream your capture from a webcam onto the webserver so others can view it?  I'm using VLC
[20:29] <Tribaal> Hi everyone, does anybody know of a good Petri Networks editor / simulator on GNU/linux? (Ubuntu, more specifically)?
[20:29] <LjL> laughtear: if you're running 8.04, you really should have a sharing option in the proprieties when you right click a file. are you running a previous version?
[20:29] <mikebeecham> mongolai: yup..windowsXP...>I want to dualboot until comfortable with ubuntu
[20:29] <zanberdo> Elswyyr: ok, do this. google qparted and download the livecd ISO.  Burn that to a CD and then boot to it.  Use the default options and you will be presented with an interface that will let you resize your existing partitions
[20:29] <[admin]> LjL, he is on 8.10
[20:30] <LjL> [admin]: then why is he asking here?
[20:30] <mongolai> mikebeecham:  what's your HDD usage % in winxp? you might not have enough free space as it is...
[20:30] <FastPutty> is there a way to merge from 8.04 to 8.10 without losing anything
[20:30] <Fazer2> yes
[20:30] <[admin]> LjL, we've been trying to tell him/her that
[20:30] <othellix> helme pls
[20:30] <sleeping143> Anyone here familiar with wireless security on 8.10?
[20:30] <LjL> laughtear: if you're on 8.10, which is currently unreleased and unsupported, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:30] <Fazer2> update-manager -d
[20:30] <Flare183> !ask | othellix
[20:30] <LjL> !anyone | sleeping143
[20:30] <erUSUL> Fazer2: just upgrade when the update manager offer you to do so
[20:30] <othellix>  how i install ati driver
[20:30] <othellix> ?
[20:30] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Fazer2
[20:30] <laughtear> LjL: this is intrepid ibex, the other pc in the house is hardy heron buddy. again: i have to pc's both using ubuntu (one of them is intrepid other one is hardy). and i can't make this computers see each other in network
[20:30] <LjL> !ati | othellix
[20:30] <erUSUL> !ati | othellix
[20:31] <Gnea> lindenle: awesome
[20:31] <LjL> laughtear: ok, on the *Hardy* computer, do you see no sharing options in a folder's proprieties?
[20:31] <Tribaal> Anybody know a Petri Nets editor / simulator on Ubuntu?
[20:31] <KevinO> hahaha its a real bug inside my lcd
[20:31] <sleeping143> LjL: Specifically, how to use TKIP authentication.
[20:31] <KevinO> its crazy looking
[20:31] <mike_> ??? should I use the last 3 updates for ubuntu 7 it said it wasnt official????
[20:31] <Tribaal> sleeping143: Yes - But not on intrepid, only on Hardy
[20:32] <erUSUL> sleeping143: Network Manager should support that
[20:32] <laughtear> LjL: i see it there, but i can't see the intrepid pc
[20:32] <lindenle> Gnea: and keyboardlayout gone too
[20:32] <lindenle> 100% automatic install workiing
[20:32] <sleeping143> It did in Hardy, never had a problem with it, but it's nowhere to be seen in Intrepid.
[20:32] <Tribaal> sleeping143: On hardy it's an option in NetworkManager, I couldn't find it on Intrepid
[20:32] <bremby> guys: running latest updates of Ubuntu 8.04 w/ GeForce Go 7600 and no problems
[20:32] <LjL> laughtear: well, but surely neither PC will see the other until you start actually sharing a folder on one?
[20:32] <bremby> but I cannot stay here right now, sorry
[20:32] <Jowi> KevinO, use no sprays. Let it die by itself. Or use maximum an air-spray (that does not contain liquid - many do)
[20:32] <mikebeecham> mongolai:  I have about 56Gb left
[20:32] <Tribaal> sleeping143:  There's an open bug on launchpad about it I believe
[20:32] <Fazer2> do I need kdecore package to launch KDE?
[20:33] <LjL> sleeping143: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[20:33] <laughtear> LjL: there are shared files in hardy pc, but there can't be any in this intrepid
[20:33] <sleeping143> Tribaal: thanks. I'll watch that.
[20:33] <zanberdo> bremby: did you use apt-get to install nvidia-glx-new or did you download and install drivers straight from nvidia?
[20:33] <mongolai> !gparted | mikebeecham
[20:33] <KevinO> its kind of neat, is there anyway to feed it?
[20:33] <[admin]> Fazer2, what do you think ?
[20:33] <Fazer2> I've already installed kdebase with dependencies
[20:33] <Tribaal> sleeping143: If you find *the* answer for Intrepid, please post a howto on the forums or something, it's the only thing holding me back
[20:33] <Lorenzo_Lucchini> !offtopic | kevin0
[20:33] <Jowi> KevinO, you don't want to do that. bugs lay eggs where there is food.
[20:33] <jarussi> hi, i've installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition on my hd, and it has 3 partitions, c: wich has only documents, d: wich has ubuntu and e: for swap!! when i boot the pc, i cant get to ubuntu, only with the cd on the driver!! can anyone help me?
[20:33] <LjL> laughtear: that might be a bug with Intrepid, we don't deal with Intrepid here. see if you can share a folder in the *Hardy* PC, using right-click etc, and view it from the *Intrepid* one
[20:34] <Fazer2> I guess that's a rethorical question :-P
[20:34] <[admin]> Fazer2, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to resolve everything missing
[20:34] <Fazer2> ok
[20:34] <Luminus> hi all
[20:34] <Flare183> !hi | Luminus
[20:34] <KevinO> yeah i was just kidding, but i actually thought this was a "bug" in ubuntu.
[20:34] <joshritger> can anyone help me with envy ng and the nvidia drivers?
[20:34] <KevinO> lol
[20:34] <Luminus> i need help you C programation
[20:34] <Luminus> !!
[20:34] <mikebeecham> mongolai: thanks..will look at that now
[20:34] <Tribaal> Anyone editing / simulating Petri Nets on Ubuntu? What tool do you use?
[20:34] <Luminus> with*
[20:34] <[admin]> !ati | josh__
[20:34] <[admin]> !ati | joshritger
[20:34] <[admin]> sorry
[20:35] <Flannel> Luminus: You need programming help?
[20:35] <Luminus> yes
[20:35] <joshritger> I have envy ng and the invidia drivers installed and I am having trouble getting the nvidia settings manager to write to the x.org file
[20:35] <RomanaMentalis> hello - how can I tell if my MegaRAID SAS 8208ELP Raid1 is working on my Ubuntu machine?
[20:35] <[admin]> ##c
[20:35] <RomanaMentalis> where are some places to check?
[20:35] <Flannel> Luminus: programming help should be taken care of in the language's channel, in this case, ##C
[20:35] <[admin]> !ati | joshritger
[20:35] <Luminus> ok
[20:36] <RomanaMentalis> I checked dmesg and there was no mention of a raid in there
[20:36] <joshritger> everytime I reboot the drivers are reset
[20:36] <[admin]> joshritger, for GOD sake see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:37] <LjL> Tribaal: there's nothing in the Ubuntu repositories that deals with Petri nets, except vaguely the "lbt" package.
[20:37] <Fazer2> irc://freenode/joshritger,isnick run it with sudo
[20:37] <Fazer2> whoops
[20:37] <jarussi> hi, i've installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition on my hd, and it has 3 partitions, c: wich has only documents, d: wich has ubuntu and e: for swap!! when i boot the pc, i cant get to ubuntu, only with the cd on the driver!! can anyone help me?
[20:37] <Gnea> lindenle: is that what the mini.iso is doing or did you write your own preseed to do that?
[20:37] <zanberdo> joshritger: are you running nvidia-settings a sudo?
[20:37] <Tribaal> LjL-Temp: Thanks, I'll have a look, and/or try google :)
[20:38] <joshritger> zanberdo: I am not sure, will try
[20:38] <[admin]>  aptitude search petri -> petris                - Peter's Tetris - a Tetris(TM) clone LOL
[20:38] <lindenle> Gnea: mini.iso is a small version of the installer that pulls everything from the net.  I wrote a preseed that answers all the questions asked by the installer,  cuopling the two makes a completely automatic network install
[20:38] <zanberdo> joshritger: from the command line you can run sudo nvidia-settings or if you prefer kdesu nvidia-settings.
[20:38] <zanberdo> joshr
[20:39] <zanberdo> joshritger: the default install for kmenu omits kdesu, so if you run it from kmenu it will be run with user privilages.
[20:39] <joshritger> zanberdo: I think that might have been my problem, it saved the xorg file now
[20:39] <joshritger> I will have to change my shortcut to include sudo
[20:39] <sinan> can anyone recommend a "nice" PDF reader?
[20:40] <zanberdo> joshritger: you can change the command for kmenu to inlcude kdesu or gksu depending on your wm
[20:40] <[admin]> sinan,  evince
[20:40] <zanberdo> sinan: I prefer kpdf
[20:40] <joshritger> zanberdo: thank you
[20:40] <zanberdo> joshritger: no problem.
[20:40] <Flare183> sinan: <BestBot> The BESTEST pdf reader is kpdf, because 1 people (50%) said so! Follow in order, evince with 1 votes (50%)
[20:41]  * erUSUL O.o
[20:41] <[admin]> Flare183, we're giving choices , not votes
[20:42] <sleeping143> Tribaal: Do you know if that open bug was considered to be software related, or driver related?
[20:42]  * Flare183 is a ubuntu IRC op helper, don't mess with him
[20:42]  * zanberdo preference does not denote best.
[20:42] <[admin]> Flare183, not afraid
[20:42] <Flare183> [admin]: ....
[20:43] <zanberdo> and, when someone asks about software preferences its because they like to have a choice and sometimes the choices aren't obvious...
[20:43] <[admin]> i'm sharing my time to pay back ubuntu, now leave me in peace
[20:43] <_albertux_> on 30 of this month ubuntu 8.10 is ready ?
[20:43] <Gnea> _albertux_: that's the plan
[20:43] <zanberdo> now I for one have never used evince, but I will install it and check it out.
[20:43] <_albertux_> great
[20:43] <[admin]> !ibex _albertux_
[20:43]  * passwd http://pwds.private.lt
[20:43] <Fazer2> I'm already on 8.10 :-)
[20:43] <sinan> [admin]: evince acts gay sometimes. It doesn't zoom right
[20:43] <[admin]> !ibex > _albertux_
[20:44] <goda2> hi i have mac theme for ubuntu and i don't know how to install it
[20:44] <jarussi> hi, i've installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition on my hd, and it has 3 partitions, c: wich has only documents, d: wich has ubuntu and e: for swap!! when i boot the pc, i cant get to ubuntu, only with the cd on the driver!! can anyone help me?
[20:44] <[admin]> sinan, depends on you my friend, you can choose
[20:44] <elettroman> #italia
[20:44] <Fazer2> sinan - I have the same problem!
[20:44] <zanberdo> sinan: not zooming is acting gay? hmmm...
[20:44] <erUSUL> !it > elettroman
[20:44] <Fazer2> zanberdo - it also causes my prints to look very blurry
[20:44] <Flannel> zanberdo, sinan: please don't use that term pejoratively.
[20:44] <zanberdo> Fazer2: ah, well, as I said, I use kpdf
[20:45] <smoovep> Jarussi: Check your grub... are booting to the wrong partition..
[20:45] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, im using virtualbox in da 1st time. i install wndows xp and then i want to add another ntfs partition (mydocuments) in virtualbox. how?
[20:45] <Fazer2> zanberdo: I'll take a look at it
[20:45] <zanberdo> Flannel: actually, I was pointing out that it was being used pejroatively, thank you
[20:45] <goda2> hi how can i install theme
[20:45] <sinan> zanberdo: it creates problems on zoom, like, you zoom to 200%, and navigation acts weird (like seriously weird, i forgot the exact effect cause i haven't used it for a while)
[20:45] <Eric2> so how is 8.10 working out? its almost time :P
[20:45] <marshtomp> !patience | goda2
[20:45] <Gnea> Eric2: #ubuntu+1 :)
[20:45] <Fazer2> Eric2: very well, no problems so far
[20:45] <[admin]> sinan, try disabling visual effects using evince
[20:45] <Flannel> Eric2: #ubuntu+1 for support, #ubuntu-release-party for conversation/etc, thanks
[20:45] <Eric2> nice
[20:45] <zanberdo> sinan: check out kpdf then, you might like it.  I like that I can band text and capture it to buffer for pasting.
[20:46] <erUSUL> goda2: drag and drop the tar.gz over the theme personalization window
[20:46] <elettroman> ubottu .. for bidirectional streaming... what you say?
[20:46] <jarussi> smoovep: tkz! will check how to do that!! tkz for the hint!
[20:46] <Fazer2> goda2: or unpack files into /usr/share/themes
[20:46] <sinan> [admin]: will try that :)
[20:46] <erUSUL> !it | elettroman
[20:46] <sinan> zanberdo: will try that too !
[20:46] <goda2> thnks
[20:46] <[admin]> sinan, :)
[20:46] <homerj> I support bidirectional streaming only if both chicks are hot
[20:46] <marshtomp> !offtopic | homerj
[20:46] <regeya> biDIRECTIONAL
[20:47] <[admin]> !language | homerj
[20:47] <Eric2> lol...
[20:47] <[admin]> :D
[20:48] <luisalbeto> q onda alguien guadalupe
[20:48] <marshtomp> !br | luis_
[20:48] <[admin]> !en | luisalbeto
[20:48] <marshtomp> !br | luisalbeto
[20:48] <Flare183> wow
[20:48] <smoovep> Jarussi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bootloader-manager
[20:49] <jarussi> smoovep: TKZ!! =)))
[20:49] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: you still awake?
[20:49] <smoovep> Jarussi: search along those lines.. have fun
[20:49] <sinan> /ping $me
[20:50] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: yes?
[20:50] <sinan> damn it, lol
[20:50] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: I broke my fstab
[20:50] <luisalbeto> ola lynet
[20:50] <luisalbeto> ola lynet
[20:50] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: surely you have a backup
[20:50] <marshtomp> !en | luisalbeto
[20:50] <smoovep> Jarussi: this may help.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[20:50] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: yeah i sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup
[20:51] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: and restored from that
[20:51] <mogwai> then cp /etc/fstab.backup /etc/fstab
[20:51] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: I mounted my new HD as /home in fstab and lost all my settings
[20:51] <Rafik> hello all. I'm trying to mount an SD card in my HP Laptop. can anyone help me ?
[20:51] <mogwai> bit slow here
[20:51] <lbci> after reboot of ibex's latest update, atheros 5001x+ chipset no longer adds wireless option to network manager
[20:51] <LjL> !ibex > lbci    (lbci, see the private message from Ubottu)
[20:52] <[admin]> !ibex | lbci
[20:52] <[admin]> ops was too late, sorry
[20:52] <jarussi> smoovep: now that started reading about it, i think thats not the case, what happens is that when get that "dos" message, and its suppose to start loading any os, it keeps blinking the - ... but will try those things
[20:52] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: how do i migrate all my stuff to that drive if i want to mount it as home?
[20:52] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: what settings?
[20:52] <eude_864898> irc.abjects.net/
[20:52] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: you mean the contents of your real /home?
[20:52] <RomanaMentalis> My MegaRaid SAS8208 ELP doesn't list UBUNTU as a supported OS - but can I still use it with Ubuntu?
[20:52] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: yeah
[20:52] <[admin]> RomanaMentalis, what do you think ?
[20:53] <RomanaMentalis> I don't know!
[20:53] <LjL> !hardware > RomanaMentalis    (RomanaMentalis, see the private message from Ubottu)
[20:53] <stirner> Hii there =)
[20:53] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: i would mount the real /home back on /home, then cp -a all of the data on it to the new partition, mounted at like /media/new or something, and swap 'em from there
[20:53] <Syco54645> hello, am having issues with openbox when using slim.  i cannot get the autostart.sh file to fire
[20:54] <aaron> how do I turn off my iptables?
[20:54] <erUSUL> RomanaMentalis: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sas.html
[20:54] <[admin]> aaron, sudo /sbin/iptables -F
[20:54] <erUSUL> aaron: sudo iptables -F
[20:54] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: thanks :)
[20:54] <marshtomp> hi whats the difference between bin and sbin
[20:54] <stirner> Im trying out my irc client. sorry if I look weird
[20:54] <[admin]> aaron, then sudo update-rc.d iptables stop
[20:55] <mogwai> bin = binaries; sbin = super-user binaries
[20:55] <erUSUL> marshtomp: sbin --> system bin  (administration tools usually not in the users path)
[20:55] <Gnea> vitamin-carrot: cheers
[20:55] <LjL> stirner: use #test for that please
[20:55] <aaron> thank you
[20:55] <RomanaMentalis> so there's only one SATA raid controller listed on that wiki and it's 3ware - so basically you're saying either I use that raid controller or nothing?
[20:55] <[admin]> aaron, mw
[20:55] <aaron> it said the file does not exist
[20:55] <erUSUL> RomanaMentalis: check the page i pinted you
[20:56] <stirner> LjL: ok
[20:56] <[admin]> aaron, no problem, was checking if you had one. just go on
[20:56] <luisalbeto> ola alissa
[20:56] <aaron> so thats it
[20:56] <aaron> the reason for this is tha tmy transmission torrent client does not work anymore
[20:56] <RomanaMentalis> sweet thank you erUSUL
[20:56] <erUSUL> RomanaMentalis: no problem
[20:56] <luisalbeto> ola alossa
[20:57] <[admin]> aaron, sure, iptables default rules forbid unknown ports
[20:57] <aaron> looks like I need to confirm that its been turned offf...do I need another restart
[20:58] <[admin]> aaron, just that my friend
[20:58] <jarussi> smoovep: i've changed .. now it gets a Error 22: No such Partition
[20:58] <marshtomp> i think it is stupid that this network uses forced parts instead of kicks
[20:58] <marshtomp> !offtopic | marshtomp
[20:58] <erUSUL> aaron: just do "sudo iptables -F"
[20:58] <aaron> ok
[20:58] <aaron> do I need a restart of system?
[20:58] <mogwai> no. changes should be imediate
[20:58] <[admin]> aaron, nop , thats only windows :P
[20:59] <erUSUL> aaron: but by default ubuntu does not set up any iptables rules ...
[20:59] <aaron> ok
[20:59] <[admin]> erUSUL, maybe something changed that !
[20:59] <[admin]> :)
[20:59] <vitamin-carrot> Gnea: wow that like 47GB worth of stuff
[21:00] <erUSUL> [admin]: yes if you use ufw or install any firewall "front end" you can change that indeed
[21:00] <sleeping143> I got the wireless to work with PEAP instead of TKIP, but it's on an old version of network manager that was built to try to patch the bug. It's available on launchpad.
[21:00] <[admin]> erUSUL, yup for sure
[21:01] <erUSUL> sleeping143: you shoud report the issue on launchpad so they can try to resolve the issue before the release...
[21:01] <nenad> hello
[21:01] <logomen> who i can update my pigdin
[21:01] <erUSUL> !hi | nenad
[21:01] <[admin]> !ask | nenad
[21:01] <logomen> ? in xubuntu 8.04
[21:01] <mn> Ubuntu supporting II yet?
[21:01] <zamba> what's the java-plugin package in ubuntu 8.04 called?
[21:01] <sleeping143> erUSUL: It's already there. The package I'm running right now is available there.
[21:01] <sleeping143> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272185
[21:02] <marshtomp> [admin]:
[21:02] <[admin]> yes ?
[21:02] <erUSUL> logomen: easiest way is to get a deb in www.getdeb.net
[21:02] <marshtomp> where did nenad ask to ask a question
[21:02] <marshtomp> or is saying hello forbidden in this channel
[21:02] <sleeping143> I'm going to try it with the more recent network manager, though.
[21:02] <[admin]> just ignore that
[21:02] <erUSUL> mn: what's II ??
[21:03] <mn> erusul:Intrepid Ibex Ubuntu 8.10
[21:03] <cow_2001> how do i change the default browser?
[21:03] <[admin]> like the topic doesn't say anything about it :P
[21:03] <nenad> hello
[21:03] <erUSUL> mn: no untill ibex is released on October 30th... see the topic
[21:04] <[admin]> cow_2001, system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[21:04] <Elswyyr> I've got some partition problems, could anyone please help me?
[21:04] <seclm193> NEED SOME HELP!!!! Got ubuntu 8.10, connected to a network perfect with ubuntu 8.04, but now 8.10 wants a certificate?
[21:04] <erUSUL> cow_2001: system>Admin>Preferred Apps
[21:04] <[admin]> Elektrikz, please state the question
[21:04] <marshtomp> !ibex seclm193
[21:04] <marshtomp> !ibex | seclm193
[21:04] <Gnea> seclm193: #ubuntu+1 can help you with that
[21:04] <Elswyyr> No matter what i do, i can't partition my hd. I've tried everything, and no matter what program i use, it won't let me.
[21:04] <cow_2001> erUSUL, [admin]: thank you very much!
[21:05] <sleeping143> Elswyyr: is it mounted?
[21:05] <[admin]> Elektrikz, please sudo fdisk -l and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:05] <[admin]> cow_2001 most welcome
[21:05] <negge> Elswyyr: have you used the gparted live CD?
[21:06] <Elswyyr> negge, i've used the cd, it said that the max size and the min size of the parttion was the same as my current size, so i can't do anything
[21:06] <hwilde> anybody know if parallels or vmware or virtualbox works with ubuntu 64bit and vista 64bit?   parallels seems to only be i386
[21:06] <seclm193> Gnea, thanks
[21:06] <[admin]> Elektrikz, you have windows ? try using prtition magic to resise it
[21:07] <[admin]> hwilde, vmware needs licensing for using 64 bits
[21:07] <evan__> hey how do i kill xorg from ssh?
[21:07] <[admin]> evan_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:07] <negge> Elswyyr: like [admin] said, run sudo fdisk -l and post a link to the pastebin
[21:08] <[admin]> evan_, that also implies stop | start :)
[21:08] <raevol> i have a minimal cd i downloaded a while ago, is there a way i can tell what architecture it is by looking at the contents?
[21:08] <Elswyyr> negge, I'm not very good at this stuff, so i don't know what that means. Could you please explain?
[21:09] <negge> I'm about to upgrade my EeePC from Gutsy to Intrepid (first to Hardy). I have removed programs I don't need like Openoffice, Evolution etc., will upgrading re-install those packages?
[21:09] <seclm193> Does vista store a wireless certificate i can use in 8.10?
[21:09] <[admin]> Elektrikz, open a terminal , type sudo fdisk -l , copy the results to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link to help you
[21:09] <[admin]> !ibex > seclm193
[21:09] <negge> Elswyyr: go to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal, write "sudo fdisk -l" (without the quotations), copy and paste the output to pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the link you get here
[21:09] <icc> help... i need a ftp server (i'm trying to use pure-ftpd)
[21:10] <zamba> in what repository do i find sun-java6-plugin
[21:10] <Elswyyr> I'm on a windows machine
[21:10] <zamba> .?
[21:10] <negge> [admin]: you realize you're always nicking the wrong guy?:)
[21:10] <[admin]> !!
[21:10] <[admin]> maybe
[21:10] <Elswyyr> And trying to rezise my partition so i can install ubuntu
[21:11] <negge> Elswyyr: I see. Then right-click My Computer, click Manage, go to Disk management, make a screenshot and paste it somewhere so we can see how your drives are partitioned
[21:11] <[admin]> negge, but you used my sentence to your answer though
[21:11] <Elswyyr> Where d'ya want me to paste it?
[21:11] <negge> [admin]: yes I didn't see it, just thought I'd tell you
[21:11] <negge> Elswyyr: the picture?
[21:11] <[admin]> :)
[21:11] <Elswyyr> Yep
[21:11] <geremy> still looking for help with the intel 945's tv out capability- any assistence would be much appreciated
[21:11] <negge> Elswyyr: anywhere.
[21:11] <NippleDickAss> Hey I was just curious if theres any function in php which I could use to enlarge my SCHLONG!!! maybe some function that takes a shit-nipple-ass as an argument and gives back a struct errection *;
[21:12] <mpalatnik> whoah nice, lots of cuss words!
[21:12] <Gnea> wut?
[21:12] <mpalatnik> you are such a rebel
[21:12] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[21:12] <Elswyyr> Negge, my OS is in danish, so you won't be able to understand that screen
[21:13] <negge> Elswyyr: I'm Swedish so I think I'll manage
[21:13] <Elswyyr> All right
[21:13] <negge> just post the picture somewhere
[21:13] <[admin]> Elektrikz, output from fdisk -l will not change even in Chinese
[21:13] <negge> I've had the same problem as you once I think...
[21:14] <Wunar> How to get a list of files belonging to certain package in ubuntu? (under rpm-based distros that's rpm -q --filesbypackage package_name)
[21:14] <negge> [admin]: he just said he's on Windows right now, he wants to resize the partition so he can install Ubuntu
[21:14] <Flannel> Wunar: dpkg -L page
[21:14] <m4cdaddy> Hey can someone help me with installing the ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro drivers?
[21:14] <erUSUL> Wunar: dpkg -L package
[21:14] <[admin]> dplg -L [package]
[21:14] <ilja> i want to use a higher resolution than 800x600 but it doesnt work
[21:14] <[admin]> !ati | m4cdaddy
[21:14] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: go to System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[21:14] <jarussi> I have changed my grub root(hd0,3) - its the one that has type 0x83 on it ... but i still get the Error22: No such Partition error. Can anyone help me?
[21:15] <[admin]> Wunar, dpkg -L [package name]
[21:15] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, i installed envy
[21:15] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, and it installed the driver
[21:15] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: envy-ng?
[21:15] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, yeah
[21:15] <Wunar> Thanks, I was reading man dpkg, but missed -L switch
[21:15] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: if they are already installed what do you need help for?
[21:15] <[admin]> Wunar, most welcome
[21:16] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, it wont go above the normal resolution, and when i do it makes the box smaller
[21:17] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, box = the screen
[21:17] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: ... try "gksudo diaplayconfig-gtk"
[21:17] <ilja> can someone help me?
[21:17] <michaelplacentra> Hi. Anyone ever experience strange graphic display problems including unsmooth blending? On some solid colors there's also this diagonal line dividing light and dark
[21:17] <Elswyyr> Negge, maybe i'm just confused, but where did you want me to put that picture? I'm not very good at this stuff.
[21:17] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: choose the apropiate monitor (leave the driver part alone)
[21:18] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, i did it.. nothing happened
[21:18] <cow_2001> the default browser loads quanta
[21:18] <cow_2001> how do i make it load firefox?
[21:18] <mogwai> jarussi: So your Linux partition is the 4th on the drive 0?
[21:18] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, i have the ATI catalyst thing but i dont think it does much
[21:19] <[admin]> cow_2001, goto system -> preferences -> preferred application, and chnge it to firefox or whateva
[21:19] <negge> Elswyyr: you know there are thousands of sites where you can upload pictures, try http://imageshack.us/ for example.
[21:19] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: well i use nvidia so my ati-fu is limited...
[21:19] <Elswyyr> Negge, here it is : http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=udklipce8.jpg
[21:19] <negge> ilja: you need to provide a bit more information if you want people to help you. Start with telling us what kind of graphics card you have
[21:19] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, haah
[21:19] <erUSUL> m4cdaddy: you have to restart X after the "gksudo diaplayconfig-gtk" ...
[21:20] <m4cdaddy> ohhhh
[21:20] <m4cdaddy> erUSUL, haha makes sence XD
[21:20] <cow_2001> [admin]: it says "firefox" but it loads quanta
[21:20] <kilowhisky> hey all what does sudo aptitude upgrade do?
[21:20] <m4cdaddy> kilowhisky, it upgrades to the next version?
[21:20] <kilowhisky> oh
[21:20] <m4cdaddy> kilowhisky, i thunj
[21:20] <m4cdaddy> kilowhisky, i think
[21:20] <[admin]> cow_2001, then you have choosen an editable file like css or js, not an html or htm file
[21:20] <negge> Elswyyr: what happens if you right-click the C: partition and choose "Shrink partition" (or whatever it says in Danish)?
[21:21] <Elswyyr> NEgge, it says that the max i kan shrink it is 0kb
[21:21] <ilja> i need help, someone help me please?
[21:21] <[admin]> cow_2001, try right-click, open withand choose firefox
[21:21] <erUSUL> kilowhisky: download new versions of the packages installed if aviable on the repos. the list of aviable packages is updated with aptitude update
[21:21] <[admin]> cow_2001, try right-click, open with and choose firefox
[21:21] <kilowhisky> i was just wondering, what the very first "step" i have to do, after installing ubuntu
[21:21] <m4cdaddy> ilja, want to explain more?
[21:21] <negge> ilja: did you read what I said?
[21:21] <[admin]> !ask | ilja
[21:21] <erUSUL> kilowhisky: use it normally
[21:22] <jarussi> mogwai: yeah!! i got it!! i've changed it on the boot menu, pressing the 'e' key or something
[21:22] <ilja> i want a higher resolution than 800x600 but it doesnt work
[21:22] <mogwai>  sudo aptitude upgrade = downloads and installs latest packages for your distro (eg: Hardy)
[21:22] <marshtomp> !ati | ilja
[21:22] <mogwai> cool
[21:22] <kilowhisky> so if i do 1. sudo aptitude update 2. sodu aptitude upgrade 3. sudo aptitude build-essential  /// would this be ok?
[21:22] <jarussi> tkz for the help!!
[21:22] <marshtomp> !noprob | jarussi
[21:22] <negge> kilowhisky: it's sudo aptitude install build-essential
[21:22] <erUSUL> kilowhisky: if there is updates aviable the update anager tell you so graphically
[21:23] <ilja> ill try thanks
[21:23] <kilowhisky> oh i'm on my vps
[21:23] <Elswyyr> Negge, it says i can shrink it 0mb
[21:23] <kilowhisky> ssh only :(
[21:23] <marshtomp> !hello PatrickMello
[21:23] <negge> Elswyyr: that's probably because it's the system partition. Have you tried the Gparted live CD?
[21:23] <cow_2001> [admin]: thanks!
[21:23] <[admin]> cow_2001 most welcome
[21:23] <PatrickMello> hi marshtomp...
[21:24] <Elswyyr> negge, yes, it says i can shrink it 0mb, and so does all the other tools i've tried, including the console
[21:24] <joshua1> Hi at all, i am trying to get my d-link rt61 based w-lan pci card working but i am failing for some time now... has anyone experiences with this chipset or w-lan in ubuntu itself?
[21:24] <[admin]> joshua1, try ndiswrapper
[21:25] <negge> Elswyyr: you sure? I don't understand why Gparted wouldn't let you shrink your partition
[21:25] <mogwai> Is the partition full? You can only downsize a partition if you have free space
[21:25] <marshtomp> does anyone here know how to wrap and ndis?
[21:25] <negge> mogwai: he has free space
[21:25] <mogwai> ok
[21:25] <[admin]> joshua1, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/
[21:25] <[admin]> marshtomp, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/
[21:25] <Elswyyr> Negge, i'm completely sure. I can't shrink it from the ubuntu cd either, and i've just done a defrag: Nothing works
[21:26] <kc8pxy> marshtomp:  ndiswrapper?
[21:26] <joshua1> [admin]:well this is the last solution i would use, isn't there another way? i don't like the idea of using windows drivers for linux...
[21:26] <negge> Elswyyr: that's really weird
[21:26] <mogwai> i'd say
[21:26] <kc8pxy> joshua1:  what card?
[21:26] <Elswyyr> negge, i know, everyone i've asked has been stumped
[21:26] <michaelplacentra> Gradients don't blend smoothly on my screen, IE with gradients there are blocks of color instead of a smooth transition. Is my color depth too low? (I tried setting it to 24 in xorg.conf but I'm not sure if it worked.) Is this common?
[21:26] <ieldib> I feel the same way about using windows drivers on linux
[21:27] <joshua1> kc8pxy: d-link dwl-g510
[21:27] <[admin]> joshua1, i ran my rtl using ndiswrapper it worked better than windows
[21:27] <negge> Elswyyr: and you're absolutely sure you've been trying to resize the actual C: partition and not the first 700 MB rescue partition you have?
[21:27] <RomanaMentalis> if I don't see a RAID bus controller in lspci then I know my Raid is not working, correct?  If I see it, but it's listed as Broadcom raid bus controller when it's actually a MegaRAID - is it working?
[21:27] <puff> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.06/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:27] <puff> Blah.
[21:27] <joshua1> [admin]: but there are linux drivers for this chipset, as far as i know the ndiswrapper is not working for my hardware version (2)
[21:27] <jarussi> ok, i changed on the boot menu, but i can change permanetly, if i reboot, i goes to the way it was, i tryed doing it on the console, but it kind dont save ... can anyone help me?
[21:27] <marshtomp> hi hhelp whenever i log into ubuntu i get what is called a "kernel panic"
[21:27] <kc8pxy> joshua1:  that's not an atheros?  why do you have an aversion to ndiswrapper?
[21:28] <Elswyyr> negge, yes, i'm completely sure, i can send you a screenshot of my trying to resize
[21:28] <[admin]> joshua1, that was a choice for you, you can choose other ways
[21:28] <negge> Elswyyr: no need, I believe you
[21:28] <zielony> HI hou to put devil's pie to autostart
[21:28] <zielony> ?
[21:28] <ikonia> zielony: pardon ??
[21:28] <[admin]> jarussi, just make it permanent in /boot/grub/menu.list
[21:28] <schnak> does the terminal keep a logfile somewhere?
[21:28] <negge> if it can't be done with Gparted I don't know how it could be done
[21:28] <zamba> where has sun-java6-plugin gone to?
[21:28] <schnak> i need to check something that i accidentally closed.
[21:28] <zielony> ikonia: its a program
[21:29] <schnak> that came up post-installation.
[21:29] <ikonia> schnak: your .history file
[21:29] <[admin]> schnak, history command
[21:29] <ikonia> !init | schnak
[21:29] <jarussi> [admin] - will try that .. tkz
[21:29] <marshtomp> hi hhelp whenever i log into ubuntu i get what is called a "kernel panic"
[21:29] <joshua1> (23:34:32) kc8pxy: joshua1:  that's not an atheros?  why do you have an aversion to ndiswrapper?
[21:29] <joshua1> sry i do not really understand the question
[21:29] <[admin]> jarussi, most welcome
[21:29] <zielony> I mean I know system>...>sesion
[21:30] <marshtomp> hi does anyone know what happens to ubuntu if you run out of hard drive space when using it
[21:30] <zielony> but I can't find master activation devilspie file
[21:30] <ubuntakias> hello
[21:30] <ikonia> marshtomp: nothing - limits it's functions
[21:30] <ubuntakias> any good site for aircrack ?
[21:30] <anders> it's included in the repos ubuntakias
[21:30] <negge> marshtomp: nothing really, it's happened to me on my Eee.
[21:31] <marshtomp> what happens if you try to download a file though
[21:31] <marshtomp> or even browse the internet and try to download pages
[21:31] <ikonia> marshtomp it can't get written to disk
[21:31] <jarussi> [admin]: it says i dont have permission to save the file... i only have one ubuntu user
[21:31] <ikonia> marshtomp: anything in memory will be fine, anything that writes to disk will fail
[21:31] <[admin]> jarussi, use sudo
[21:31] <lobo235> is there any way to undo an apt-get remove command?
[21:31] <joshua1>  DWL-G510 Rev C2  PCI  RT61-Chipsatz  WEP/WPA/WPA2 ohne wpa_supplicant  RT61-CVS Treiber benutzen; Läuft problemlos mit Intrepid Ibex (Ubuntu 8.10) incl. WPA2
[21:31] <ikonia> lobo235: re-install
[21:31] <LjL> marshtomp: it'll tell you there's no space left on device. negge, "nothing really" is not entirely accurate... *many* programs don't properly check for low-disk conditions, and can crash very badly
[21:31] <LjL> lobo235: yes, reinstall the package that you removed
[21:32] <negge> marshtomp: downloading files doesn't work, I haven't tried to surf the web though. First thing you should do if it happens is delete unnecessary files/packages to free up some space
[21:32] <joshua1> no word of ndiswrapper
[21:32] <[admin]> joshua1, 8.10 ?
[21:32] <pwnedulongtime> how would I list all files recursively within a directory modified after a specific date?
[21:32] <lobo235> ikonia: in this case, I did an "apt-get remove lamp-server^" and it ended up removing packages that it shouldn't have and now I can't even get gnome running
[21:32] <joshua1> [admin]: right now, yes. tried everything from 7.04 to 8.10
[21:32] <ikonia> pwnedulongtime: ls -lR  | sort
[21:32] <marshtomp> and what happens if the hard drive is unmounted or removed when the operating system is in use?
[21:32] <ikonia> lobo235: lamp-server won't touch gnome
[21:33] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, find . -mtime
[21:33] <zielony> sooo? any body know st about it:?
[21:33] <schnak> ikonia: thanks, btw.
[21:33] <negge> marshtomp: you can't do that
[21:33] <ikonia> schnak: no sweat
[21:33] <schnak> hey, i've got another question, actually.
[21:33] <ikonia> marshtomp: system crash
[21:33] <[admin]> ikonia, recursively he/she needs
[21:33] <ikonia> marshtomp: is this going somewhere
[21:33] <ikonia> anders: -R
[21:33] <ikonia> [admin]: -R
[21:33] <spaykz> where can i get a good tutorial for a WEBMAIL?
[21:33] <schnak> i'm trying to install something that's supposed to be in the universe repository.
[21:33] <[admin]> :/
[21:33] <schnak> using gutsy, btw.
[21:33] <erUSUL> lobo235: install ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:33] <Flannel> schnak: What is it?
[21:34] <schnak> but aptitude can't find it.
[21:34] <marshtomp> ikonia: the same questino could be asked of your and all our lives
[21:34] <schnak> csound.
[21:34] <joshua1> [admin]: unfortunatly in the #ubuntu+1 room there is no one who seems to be used to rt61 the chipset or even w-lan
[21:34] <musictoto> spaykz: a tutorial to set-up a webmail ? or what do you want ?
[21:34] <negge> schnak: make sure you have the universe repository enabled
[21:34] <[admin]> !ibex | joshua1
[21:34] <lobo235> erUSUL: okay, i'll give that a try
[21:34] <schnak> how do i do that via command line?
[21:34] <[admin]> joshua1, wait after 30th
[21:34] <evan__> how can i set a "(II) Primary Device" in xorg because it cant detect one...:(
[21:34] <spaykz> musictoto yes to set up a webmail... step by step postfix, courier, ... well every to set-up a webmail
[21:35] <[admin]> !ibex > evan_
[21:35] <negge> schnak: you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment the lines that have to do with universe
[21:35] <musictoto> spaykz: give me a minute
[21:35] <joshua1> [admin]: well i do not think that this problem is solved within 2 days and i don't care of installing 7.10 or 8.04 or whatever as long as i get this card working
[21:35] <spaykz> musictoto tankz
[21:35] <marshtomp> hi what is the earliest version of ubuntu
[21:35] <ikonia> marshtomp: current early support is 7.10
[21:36] <[admin]> joshua1, try then we could help
[21:36] <jarussi> [admin]: can u help me with that? i'm really noob to ubuntu .. as u can tell lol
[21:36] <ikonia> marshtomp: 8.04 is current LTS
[21:36] <ConstantineXVI> marshtomp: i want to say the first was 4.10
[21:36] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]: -mtime 100 finds nothing
[21:36] <ConstantineXVI> marshtomp: but i have no idea why you'd want to use it
[21:36] <[admin]> jarussi, the problem is that there are alot of packages broken till now in 8.10, the problem might not be with your drivers
[21:36] <reqqit> Is FF3 fixed in ibex?
[21:36] <schnak> i can still only find the documentation for it.
[21:36] <musictoto> spaykz: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[21:36] <jarussi> [admin'
[21:36] <ikonia> reqqit: it's not broke
[21:36] <schnak> i know where i can find it on sourceforge, but i'd like to do it through my package manager so as not to mess with dependencies.
[21:36] <reqqit> fixed meaning 'fixed', i.e. the fsync ballsup
[21:37] <jarussi> [admin]: i`m using 8.04 ...
[21:37] <reqqit> ikonia, sadly, only one of us is right
[21:37] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime,  -mtime File’s data was last modified n*24 hours ago.
[21:37] <ikonia> reqqit: explain the problem
[21:37] <schnak> i installed it using the source code, but when i tried to install a gui for it, it couldn't find the install.
[21:37] <joshua1> [admin]:hmm
[21:37] <ubuntakias> any good tutorial how to deface site through ubuntu ?
[21:37] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, r u trying to find 100 days old files ?
[21:37] <musictoto> spaykz:  you can also try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[21:37] <ubuntakias> ok sorry
[21:37] <spaykz> musictoto tkz, i tried this already
[21:38] <musictoto> spaykz: didn't work ?
[21:38] <mongolai> ubuntakias:  create your own site, and deface it as yo please !
[21:38] <reqqit> ikonia, FF3 has many problems, the fsync problem is one of them (poor performance) is this actually being looked at in 8.10 ? Firefox is fsyncing 600 times a second and wondering why they want to flush all buffers so that they can output to disk the current search drop down history, and then they wonder why they have performance issues
[21:38] <spaykz> didnt
[21:38] <ikonia> mongolai: don't feed the situation
[21:38] <reqqit> ikonia, or just google 'installing FF2 on 8.04'
[21:38] <spaykz> i will try this second..
[21:38] <ikonia> reqqit: firefox 2 is not being support by ubuntu
[21:38] <spaykz> mabe i got some mistake
[21:38] <schnak> is it possible to add a cvs repository to my repository list?
[21:38] <ikonia> reqqit: in that not being fixed by ubuntu, in that 3 is "current"
[21:38] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]: is -mtime supposed to be a negative number?
[21:39] <musictoto> spaykz: adress me with musictoto: please, then i get a sound notification :)
[21:39] <mongolai> ikonia:  you're right, besides people don't need to know about localhost re-direction etc
[21:39] <ikonia> reqqit: unless there is a bug report saying "being fixed"
[21:39] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, no 24*number after mtime hours
[21:39] <lobo235> erUSUL: that worked
[21:39] <lobo235> thanks
[21:39] <spaykz> (musictoto)~%: yes sorry
[21:39] <cyzie> is there a way to switch from xubuntu to server edition and if so, how ?
[21:39] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, like 2 days ago = -mtime 2
[21:39] <ikonia> cyzie: why do you want a server install ?
[21:39] <ikonia> cyzie: or do you just not want X
[21:39] <brainfog> how do I find which version ofr gtk2 im running?
[21:40] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]: wouldn't that mean exactly 2 days ago?
[21:40] <reqqit> ikonia, I was more in the market for someone with knowledge about this specific issue, rather than, you know, someone who wanted to speculate and question the accuracy of the issue. Anyway, I guess I will wait and see.
[21:40] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, yes from command issue time
[21:40] <eighty4> I'm experiencing something strange... It seems like my /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd changes places on reboot. Anything that could cause this?
[21:40] <ikonia> reqqit: is there a bug report
[21:40] <marshtomp> ow
[21:40] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, use -daystart to have 00:00 begin time
[21:40] <cyzie> ikonia, i have build my own package and app on my xubuntu and many servers app, so i think server edition is what i need.
[21:40] <ikonia> reqqit: sorry the netsplit flooded me, is there a bug report for the isue
[21:40] <paul68> ikonia: as I was changing my interfaces file and it got sour on me is there something that I missed? here are the both interfaces files http://paste.ubuntu.com/63773/ can you please check
[21:40] <[admin]> ow 2ice
[21:40] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]: how would I do modified less than or equal to three days ago
[21:40] <pwnedulongtime> ?
[21:41] <ikonia> cyzie: the desktop/server edition are compatible package wise
[21:41] <paul68> ikonia: as I was changing my interfaces file and it got sour on me is there something that I missed? here are the both interfaces files http://paste.ubuntu.com/63773/ can you please check
[21:41] <reqqit> ikonia, it is ok. I've read the bug reports (on bugzilla) just wondering because I've looked and not seen anything from their side
[21:41] <cyzie> ikonia, so is there a way to do the switch?
[21:41] <athlo> hi everyone!
[21:41] <ikonia> reqqit ubuntu doesn't maintain firefox, - so they won't be fixing it in 8.10,. however is there an ubuntu logged against it
[21:41] <ikonia> cyzie you don't need to
[21:42] <cyzie> ikonia, i think i can decide what i need but is there a way to do the switch ?
[21:42] <hubar> Can anyone recommend me a network PCMCIA card that is ganranteed to work with hardy/intrepid w/o any tricks?
[21:42] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, find . -mtime 3
[21:42] <ikonia> cyzie: clearly you can't as the package compatability between server and dekstop works
[21:42] <marshtomp> does anyone know if hardy heron is supported in this channel
[21:42] <BuFF> how to view *.ppt or *.pps ? i'm using open office but all formulas can't be shown, pls help
[21:42] <danfg> i updated my linux kernel to 2.6.24-21, now my keyboard has problems, i get a "Error activating XKB configuration." error on startup. what now?
[21:42] <hubar> I need a very simple card.
[21:42] <ikonia> cyzie: and if you did know - you would know the differences between the server and desktop os and how they can/can't be swapped in part
[21:42] <Zorbinski> any one here from Utah?
[21:43] <ikonia> paul68: that inet file looks fine apart from eth1 gateway
[21:43] <cyzie> ikonia, thanks but no thanks.
[21:43] <ikonia> cyzie: no problem
[21:43] <schnak> how do i add a cvs repository to my list of sources for aptitude?
[21:43] <rblst> hubar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[21:43] <schnak> for instance, a project repository from sourceforge?
[21:43] <danfg> anyone having any problems since updating the linux kernel to 2.6.24-21?
[21:44] <ikonia> schnak: they need to be source repos - not source "files"
[21:44] <paul68> ikonia what should the eth1 gateway be then?
[21:44] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]:  find -mtime 3 -daystart  ...it's not showing files I modified today
[21:44] <ikonia> danfg: a few people have had a few issues
[21:44] <ikonia> paul68: what is the gateway for the 10.X network
[21:44] <osiris> schnak, apples and oranges.
[21:44] <simon1245> I got problem with the number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:44] <danfg> ikonia: i'm having problems with my keyboard, XKB error on X startup
[21:44] <schnak> osiris: when i simply added the address, it told me that it didn't understand the type 'cvs'
[21:44] <hubar> rblst: thanks a lot!
[21:44] <[admin]> pwnedulongtime, find . -mtime -3
[21:45] <ikonia> danfg: I'd be surprised if that was a kernel issue, anything else got updated
[21:45] <rblst> hubar: welcome
[21:45] <athlo> if anyone can help me... I download a Wmware image from this page http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ but I don't know the root'pass!If anyone knows it could help me ..
[21:45] <ikonia> athlo: if it's an ubuntu image there should be no root password
[21:45] <paul68> I was thinking 10.20.2.1
[21:45] <simon1245> I got problem with the number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:45] <danfg> ikonia: maybe not, but the problem happened after updating the kernel, where can i find a log of the latest updates done?
[21:45] <pwnedulongtime> [admin]: ah better thx
[21:45] <osiris> schnak, cvs is a version control system.  aptitude is a package manager
[21:45] <[admin]> athlo, when it boots, choose recovery nad reset the password
[21:45] <Trokair> Hey ? guys, where is the default profile for the terminal located on the hard drive
[21:46] <Trokair> WOW mass join
[21:46] <[admin]> athlo, when it boots, choose recovery nad reset the password
[21:46] <reqqit> Trokair, just a netsplit. relax.
[21:46] <LjL-Wolfe> !netsplit
[21:46] <osiris> basicly, cvs is for source code, and aptitude is for .deb files
[21:46] <Trokair> lol im not excited :)
[21:46] <simon1245> buntu
[21:46] <simon1245> * Andril (n=Andril@c-66-229-10-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
[21:46] <jean-martin> big issues since today's update on hardy http://pastebin.com/m50e8001d
[21:46] <marshtomp> does anyone know if hardy heron is supported in this channel
[21:46] <ikonia> marshtomp: it is
[21:46] <athlo> admin: ok im trying
[21:46] <Trokair> reqqit you wouldn't happen to know where the default profile for the terminal is located on the filesystem
[21:47] <Trokair> would u?
[21:47] <eighty4> I'm experiencing something strange... It seems like my /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd changes places on reboot. Anything that could cause this?
[21:47] <osiris> marshtomp, yes, it should be
[21:47] <reqqit> Trokair, you mean for welcome messages and such?
[21:47] <ubun2> hello, can anyone tell me how I could reinstall 'at'?  I had a problem and followed a bug report that said to remove it and re-install.  When I try to apt-get install at, I get: E: Package at has no installation candidate
[21:47] <simon1245> I got problem with number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:47] <JInTheOffice> Hello, since the upgrade this morning (I believe a kernel upgrade) to Hardy my KDE and Gnome desktops are broken. How do I recover?
[21:47] <reqqit> simon1245, I accidentally my numbrpad
[21:47] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: what video card do you have
[21:47] <evan__> [admin]: it isnt opening...
[21:47] <evan__> !ibex
[21:47] <evan__> !ibex > evan__
[21:47] <[admin]> jean-martin, i can't understand french sorry
[21:47] <Trokair> well in Awn, im using the terminal applet (pops up a small terminal, and it has a spot to apply a profile setting)
[21:47] <JInTheOffice> Nvidia on the motherboard. 6150 I believe.
[21:47] <[admin]> !fr | jean-martin
[21:47] <simon1245> What reqqit?
[21:47] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: where did you get the drives for that card
[21:47] <amortvigil> !ibex > evan__
[21:48] <amortvigil> [admin]: is it about the 8,04 ubuntu?
[21:48] <simon1245> I got problem with number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:48] <reqqit> simon1245, I accidentally my numpad
[21:48] <jean-martin> I can speak in english
[21:48] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, I installed them long ago. I think they were downloaded from nvidia, but not sure.
[21:48] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: thats the problem
[21:48] <[admin]> amortvigil, sorry i lost your question , what was it again !?
[21:48] <danfg> where can i find a log of the latest updates ubuntu has done?
[21:48] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: lots of people have had issues, the new kernel needs a new nvidia->kernel interface
[21:48] <amortvigil> what happend?
[21:48] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, they were stable for ... maybe 8 months or so?
[21:48] <paul68> ikonia: I was thinking 10.20.2.1
[21:48] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: the kernel has been changed
[21:48] <ikonia> paul68:  thats the local box
[21:49] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, I see. What do I do to recover ?
[21:49] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: use supported drivers
[21:49] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: or "compatible" drivers I should say
[21:49] <rblst> danfg: /var/log/dpkg
[21:49] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, if I edit xorg.conf to use nv will that work?
[21:49] <mikebeecham> I hope someone can help.  I've just installed ubuntu 8.04 and installed the nvidia-settings through synaptics.  Having chosen twinview, all my windows stretch across both my monitors, what am I doing wrong?
[21:49] <jean-martin> ikonia, I didnt solve since this afternoon, using vesa driver didnt solve
[21:49] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: maybe
[21:49] <danfg> rblst: thanks :)
[21:49] <ikonia> jean-martin: apologies can you refresh me on the problem
[21:49] <simon1245> I got problem with number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:50] <paul68> ikonia: so I need to change my adress and leave the gateway like it is
[21:50] <athlo> admin, I don't have any option to do recovery at boot, do I have to do something special?
[21:50] <ikonia> paul68: errr no
[21:50] <ikonia> paul68: then the gateway wouldn't exist
[21:50] <[admin]> ikonia, he/she speaks frensh, i informed with !fr
[21:50] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, thanks. "maybe" doesn't fill me with confidence though :/
[21:50] <ikonia> paul68: why do you think you need a gateway if the gatway is its self
[21:50] <simon1245> I got problem with number pad. Like when i press "4" it's going left "8" it's going right "5" It's like left mouse button "7" north-west....
[21:50] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: depends in teh nv driver supports your card
[21:50] <rblst> danfg: /var/log/dpkg.log sorry, and also: /var/log/apt/term.log
[21:50] <jean-martin> ikonia, yes of course... gnome settings deamon error since today's update
[21:50] <ikonia> JInTheOffice: I don't know without looking if it does
[21:50] <reqqit> simon1245, my numpad also moves
[21:50] <JInTheOffice> ikonia, thanks again. We'll see I guess.
[21:50] <ikonia> jean-martin: ahhh thats right, it was in french
[21:50] <simon1245> How to fixi t?
[21:50] <simon1245> it?
[21:51] <ikonia> jean-martin: please show me your xorg.conf in a pastebin
[21:51] <paul68> ikonia:  i need a gateway to transfer data from eth0 to eth1
[21:51] <reqqit> simon1245, press numlock
[21:51] <simon1245> Reqqit How to fix it?
[21:51] <reqqit> simon1245, press scroll lock
[21:51] <ikonia> paul68: no you don't - they are the same box
[21:51] <simon1245> I have alreaddy try
[21:51] <reqqit> simon1245, you have to accidentally your numpad
[21:51] <simon1245> How to do that?
[21:51] <paul68> ikonia: I'm lost
[21:52] <simon1245> Reqqit how to do that?
[21:52] <Trokair> Anybody know where the default text file for the terminal display settings are located?
[21:52] <danfg> non
[21:52] <ikonia> paul68: you don't need a gateway as eth0 and eth1 are teh same physical machine, the data doesn't need to go out of a gateway to get to the same box
[21:52] <jean-martin> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m1ba5a897
[21:52] <[admin]> Trokair, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:52] <ikonia> jean-martin: your still using the nvidia driver in that xorg.conf
[21:53] <Trokair> admin: i meant for the actual terminal in X
[21:53] <Trokair> not the screen settings :)
[21:53] <paul68> ikonia: ok so what would the solution be here I can't figure it out?
[21:53] <[admin]> Trokair, sorry can't help
[21:53] <ikonia> paul68: remove the gateway line for eth1
[21:53] <amortvigil> [admin]: how do i check my hardware is there a specific program like systeminfo in windows?
[21:53] <jean-martin> ikonia, yes, but forcing the vesa driver didnt solve. And I cant use the pc with vesa driver : the screen is awfull, the resolution is messed up
[21:53] <Trokair> admin: thank you anyways
[21:53] <Trokair> Anybody else know?
[21:53] <LjL> amortvigil: "lshw" perhaps?
[21:53] <Tundrayeti312> Trokair: I thinik there is a ~/.bash or ~/.bashrc ...
[21:54] <[admin]> amortvigil, lshw and lspci and lsusb commands will display
[21:54] <ikonia> jean-martin: the resolution is messed up but it's a base for you to get the nvidia driver working again
[21:54] <ubun2> hello, can anyone tell me how I could reinstall 'at'?  I had a problem and followed a bug report that said to remove it and re-install.  When I try to apt-get install at, I get: E: Package at has no installation candidate
[21:54] <joshua1> ok I'll leave for a lot of coffee and google
[21:54] <joshua1> see ya
[21:54] <ikonia> ubun2: can you show me the bug report that says re-install at
[21:54] <Trokair> Tundrayeti312: I'll check real quick, Thank you
[21:54] <jean-martin> ikonia, but with vesa driver, I have the same gnome settings deamon error
[21:55] <amortvigil> [admin]: i know those bit id search a more organized and gui window so i can see if its broken or not
[21:55] <[admin]> jean-martin, did you try sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg-video-nv ?
[21:55] <ubun2> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-report-tool/+bug/138743
[21:55] <jean-martin> ikonia, I olny tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:55] <paul68> ikonia: thanks for your help
[21:55] <ubun2> ikonia: so I removed it, then tried to reinstall, but I get that error
[21:56] <ikonia> jean-martin: I told you earlier that won't do anything
[21:56] <ikonia> paul68: no problem
[21:56] <ikonia> ubun2: what command do you use to remove it
[21:56] <jean-martin> ikonia, I'm back on the former 2.6.24.19-rt kernel... the 2.6.24.21-rt doesnt even start
[21:56] <ubun2> ikonia: apt-get remove at
[21:56] <[admin]> amortvigil, system -> administration -> hardware Drivers for restircted drivers
[21:56] <RomanaMentalis> is there an article somewhere on how to tell if your raid is working?  like step by step?
[21:56] <jean-martin> ikonia, anyway, I do it know
[21:56] <ikonia> jean-martin: oh, rt kernel too
[21:56] <jean-martin> ikonia, it's ubuntustudio... I'm musician
[21:57] <electronplusplu> hello people
[21:57] <electronplusplu> i need some help
[21:57] <schnak> hm, i seem to have serious problems when updating to 8.04.
[21:57] <electronplusplu> i'm going to tun a contest on my home pc
[21:57] <schnak> i think that it's video driver errors.
[21:57] <electronplusplu> i need a DDoS to my PC
[21:57] <electronplusplu> in order to teste my DSL Connection
[21:58] <ikonia> ubun2: try installing anacron and cron packages
[21:58] <electronplusplu> 85.243.136.133 is my IP
[21:58] <schnak> it prompts me to start ubuntu in low graphics mode, and then never finishes booting.
[21:58] <amortvigil> [admin]: it is showing off my ati card but i cant get any signal on my screen from it
[21:58] <ikonia> ubun2: the package is called "at"
[21:58] <schnak> i can get into the os in recovery mode, but when i try to activate the restricted drivers, i have to reboot.
[21:58] <electronplusplu> DDoS to my ip -> 85.243.136.133
[21:58] <ikonia> ubun2: I've just found it in the repo
[21:58] <[admin]> amortvigil, when booting ? or whole time ?
[21:58] <ikonia> electronplusplu: no
[21:59] <ikonia> electronplusplu: this is a support channel
[21:59] <schnak> when i run recovery mode, though, i have to do the repair xserver option to get anything at all.
[21:59] <amortvigil> [admin]: whole time
[21:59] <electronplusplu> ikonia, just a wget with an infinitive loop
[21:59] <ikonia> electronplusplu: NO
[21:59] <ubun2> ikonia: yes, but when I try to install it "apt-get install at" I get the error: Package at is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:59] <electronplusplu> ok
[21:59] <ubun2> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package at has no installation candidate
[21:59] <jean-martin> ikonia, no change
[21:59] <ikonia> ubun2: what version of ubuntu are you using
[22:00] <ubun2> ikonia: 8.04.1
[22:00] <[admin]> amortvigil, when booting, wait a little bit, and press CTRL+ALT+F1 login and try sudo spkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:00] <amortvigil> [admin]: btw i use dual screen nvidia is showing nice... but my other vard hasnt gave me a signal since i baught it
[22:00] <bundyc1> where can i download the dvd version of ubuntu
[22:00] <r3c0n> hey ppl
[22:00] <ikonia> ubun2: sudo apt-get update first
[22:00] <schnak> ikonia: is there a way for me to backup my current configuration, try to update, and if that doesn't work, to revert back to 7.04?
[22:00] <ikonia> schnak: what config ?
[22:00] <[admin]> amortvigil, do you change the HW without telling your system to reconfigure ?
[22:00] <ubun2> ikonia: did that
[22:01] <schnak> well, 7.04 works, but i'm having problems with the repositories.
[22:01] <schnak> 7.10 *
[22:01] <ikonia> ubun2: I can't explain it as I can see the package fine
[22:01] <schnak> i wanted to update to 8.04, but when i did, i was getting display problems.
[22:01] <schnak> so i reinstalled after trying to fix stuff.
[22:01] <amortvigil> [admin]: even if i have dual screen ?? well about the change it was in there before i installed ubuntu... but ive toke it in and out without ginging any command, wich should i try??
[22:01] <schnak> and i was wondering if there was a way to revert to the old kernel if the update goes awry.
[22:02] <ubun2> ikonia: maybe I'm missing the repo in my sources.list?
[22:02] <jean-martin> ikonia, the dpkg-reconfigure for nvidia didnt hel
[22:02] <[admin]> amortvigil, yes  ....
[22:02] <ubun2> ikonia: can you tell me what repo it should be in?
[22:02] <r3c0n> how do we install airoscript.sh to ubuntu ? i run sudo sh airoscript.sh but i got this result /home/r3c0n/Desktop/airoscript.sh: 39: Syntax error: "}" unexpected ..... what is the problem ???
[22:02] <ikonia> jean-martin: I've said 3 times now - that will do nothing
[22:03] <[admin]> r3c0n, try viewing the line 39
[22:03] <r3c0n> ok brb
[22:03] <amortvigil> [admin]:  wich commands are the once i should try next to spkg-reconf?
[22:03] <mongolai> schnak:  it seems that major kernel releases leave an option in the GRUB menu, however, minor point-releases, like the one issued recently don't.
[22:03] <jean-martin> ikonia, you just told me to do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-nv didnt you ?
[22:04] <ikonia> jean-martin: no - I didn't
[22:04] <amortvigil> [admin]: too enable the hardware
[22:04] <ikonia> jean-martin: I've said 3 times that dpkg-reconfigure will do nothing
[22:04] <jean-martin> ikonia, so I misunderstood, I'm very sorry
[22:04] <[admin]> amortvigil, thats it, once you login , open system -> administration -> hardware drivers and enable the ati there
[22:04] <schnak> mongolai: 7.10 was not still in the menu/
[22:04] <RomanaMentalis> is there a tutorial on installing a raid on ubuntu?
[22:05] <r3c0n> there is nothing wrong in line 39
[22:05] <laughtear> mongolai: on this machine, the xchat does not let me open a dialog window..=D
[22:05] <r3c0n> its right at the moment
[22:05] <amortvigil> [admin]: can i use the open ati driver too
[22:05] <amortvigil> ?
[22:05] <favro> !raid | RomanaMentalis
[22:05] <mongolai> schnak:  I'm sorry, I think I missed your original question. Plese let me go back a bit.
[22:05] <[admin]> amortvigil, depends on what you desire
[22:05] <schnak> mongolai: i probably misspoke.
[22:05] <r3c0n> why is it giving me a syntax error ?
[22:05] <jean-martin> ikonia, you have an idea on what to do ?
[22:05] <ikonia> jean-martin: update your nvida drivers to compatible ones
[22:05] <daysleepr> hello all, i just installed and configured postfix on ubuntu 6.06 LTS... but i can't seem to find the email alias setup... i'm used to sendmail on fedora... there its called the virtusertable in /etc/mail
[22:06] <schnak> i updated from 7.10 to 8.04 a while back, but when i completed the update and restarted, i was having some serious issues.
[22:06] <jean-martin> ikonia, I'm not on the new kernel, I'm on a kernel that was working perfectly before update
[22:06] <schnak> when i booted ubuntu, it would prompt me to go into low graphics mode, which i would try to do, and then it would never finish booting.
[22:06] <mikebeecham> hey guys...I've just installed Ubuntu and nvidia-settings.  However, all my windows are stretched over both monitors...how can I change this?
[22:06] <ikonia> jean-martin: it wasnt just the kernel that got updated
[22:06] <amortvigil> [admin]: what does the command do exactly?
[22:06] <schnak> i could boot in recovery mode if i used the repair xserver option.
[22:07] <RomanaMentalis> I'm talking about a hardware raid
[22:07] <jean-martin> ikonia, how can I go back to the former nvidia drivers ?
[22:07] <RomanaMentalis> I have a SAS/SATA Raid adapter
[22:07] <[admin]> amortvigil, dpkg-recofigure ?
[22:07] <schnak> i would try to use the restricted drivers and reboot for it to take affect.
[22:07] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: it needs to be true hardware raid
[22:07] <ikonia> jean-martin: you've not updated your drivers - thats the problem
[22:07] <RomanaMentalis> what do you mean true?
[22:07] <ikonia> jean-martin: your current (OLD) drivers don't work with the udpates
[22:07] <schnak> but when i rebooted, it would just send me back to low graphics mode prompt.
[22:07] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: a supported hardware solution
[22:07] <RomanaMentalis> oh
[22:07] <[admin]> daysleepr, try /etc/aliases
[22:07] <schnak> if i rebooted into recovery mode, then the restricted drivers would be deactivated again.
[22:07] <RomanaMentalis> is there a list of supported hardware raids?
[22:07] <amortvigil> [admin]: restarting goes way to fast!
[22:08] <jean-martin> ikonia, you know where to get better drivers ?
[22:08] <[admin]> daysleepr, when done, issue newaliases
[22:08] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: pretty much LSI and 3ware only (really)
[22:08] <RomanaMentalis> oh
[22:08] <ikonia> jean-martin: I'm not going through this with you again
[22:08] <RomanaMentalis> well I have LSI
[22:08] <mikebeecham> hey guys...I've just installed Ubuntu and nvidia-settings.  However, all my windows are stretched over both monitors...how can I change this?  Can anyone help me with this?
[22:08] <ikonia> jean-martin: you're having this problem because you got drivers from nvidia.com - now the drivers don't work with the current ubuntu updates, you'll need to find compatible drivers
[22:08] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: a good start
[22:08] <RomanaMentalis> :)
[22:09] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: try it, see how it goes
[22:09] <RomanaMentalis> I did but I'm not sure if it's working
[22:09] <aurel42> Anyone got an idea how to get audio with Java (Web Start) applications without starting them in a VirtualBox running Windows?
[22:09] <[admin]> it s 1:00 AM here, trying to have a good sleep. bye bye
[22:09] <RomanaMentalis> like for example when I do lspci I see Broadcom as the raid bus controller
[22:09] <RomanaMentalis> and not Megaraid
[22:09] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: are you sure ?
[22:09] <jean-martin> ikonia, and you dont know where to get such drivers ?
[22:09] <lucax> jean-martin: why dont u use nvidia-glx?
[22:09] <RomanaMentalis> well that's what's in lspci I don't know what else to check
[22:09] <amortvigil> bye
[22:09] <ikonia> lucax: too late for that
[22:09] <Raylz> lacqui: nvidia-glx-new?
[22:09] <lucax> jean-martin: did u try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[22:09] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis you have a fakeraid driver on the board, is it enabled/disabled ?
[22:10] <Raylz> glx is legacy support right?
[22:10] <jean-martin> lucax, no, I try that now
[22:10] <Pay_Jay1982> hi there
[22:10] <RomanaMentalis> how can I tell?
[22:10] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: no
[22:10] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: did you disable it in the board ?
[22:10] <daysleepr> admin, the /etc/aliases file just contains "root:   daysleepr"
[22:10] <Pay_Jay1982> Can anyone help me? ive got a problem with pppoeconf..
[22:10] <RomanaMentalis> my boss put it together then handed it to me
[22:10] <lucax> ikonia: i dont know, he maight install them without problems... jean-martin or sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx
[22:10] <RomanaMentalis> so I don't know
[22:11] <ikonia> RomanaMentalis: check in the bios
[22:11] <kylepike> hey, anyone good with installing nvidia drivers?
[22:11] <Pay_Jay1982> I have to connect with pppoe over wlan...but when i run "sudo pppoeconf" it does not work
[22:11] <daysleepr> well, let me try and figure this out myself before i bother you further
[22:11] <daysleepr> thank you
[22:11] <ikonia> kylepike: enable them through restricted driver manager
[22:12] <jean-martin> lucax, I need to reboot I think : I cant run apt-get or synaptics
[22:12] <fantomas> Can I get an old mysql server as Ubuntu package?
[22:12] <mgolisch> fantomas: why?
[22:12] <kylepike> ikonia, id love to do that..... it doesn;'t show up anymore... not to mention the restricted driver manager disappeared until I just reinstalled it.
[22:13] <ikonia> kylepike: what happened to make it go away ?
[22:13] <LjL> fantomas: uhm, no, you can get the version that comes with your Ubuntu release
[22:13] <fantomas> mgolisch: have an old archive - compressed /var/lib/mysql/dbname data. Need to import it into 5x
[22:13] <kylepike> ikonia, just let the package manager do an upgrade, changed kernel versions and now everything f'd up
[22:13] <lucax> kylepike: open synaptic and type nvidia search there the drivers for ur card, its not difficult
[22:13] <ikonia> kylepike: where you using the restricted drivers ?
[22:13] <aurel42> fantomas: 4.x MyISAM? Should work fine with 5.x. Worth a try.
[22:13] <kylepike> ikonia, yes
[22:14] <fantomas> aurel42: ok, I'll try
[22:14] <kylepike> lucax, i've manually uninstalled the nvidia packages, and reinstalled apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[22:14] <kylepike> but it won't use them...
[22:14] <kylepike> ran nvidia-config *
[22:14] <mgolisch> fantomas: why do you need the old thing as debian package then?
[22:15] <lucax> kylepike: but did u restart the computer? is your video card in nvidia-glx-new description?
[22:15] <fantomas> mgolisch: to get it installed. Then I would copy a dir into /var/lib/mysql/, then dump, then ta-da!
[22:15] <r3c0n> airoscript.sh: 36: Syntax error: "}" unexpected .....whats this ??
[22:15] <kylepike> lucax, yes rebooted... and yes its listed under the nvidia-glx-new as supported.
[22:15] <r3c0n> why do i get an error
[22:16] <r3c0n> i checked the line nothings wrong with it
[22:16] <lucax> kylepike: did u try -glx before?
[22:16] <mgolisch> fantomas: why not just compile from source? if its just to run mysqldump on it anyways and will go to trash afterwards
[22:16] <r3c0n> any ideas ?
[22:17] <kylepike> lucax, yeah, im using the same laptop as my boss. and those are the packages he's using
[22:17] <lucax> kylepike: theres also a xserver-xorg-nv package
[22:17] <kylepike> lucax, no I'm sure its not that... I remember having issues like 6 months ago. too bad I didn't make notes
[22:18] <lucax> kylepike: when reboot, go to safe mode, theres there a fix xserver option... run it
[22:18] <kylepike> I wish I could "force" the resticted driver manager to just see it... I've installed that way initially
[22:18] <fantomas> mgolisch: this is next step if simple copy wont work )
[22:18] <fantomas> the
[22:19] <kyle888> hey
[22:19] <Thiag1> hi
[22:19] <ubun2> ikonia: can I find a http link to a .deb for 'at' somehow?
[22:19] <Thiag1> I've a problem
[22:19] <Thiag1> who can help me?
[22:19] <kylepike> lucax, wont that just put me back to vesa or something?
[22:19] <aurel42> ubun2: sudo aptitude install atd
[22:20] <bremby> Thiag1: ask the question
[22:20] <Thiag1> thanks
[22:20] <JInTheOffice> Hello again. Is there a procedure for reverting to an earlier kernel? The latest kernal update did not go nicely for my box, which has an on-board Nvidia 6150 card.
[22:20] <kylepike> JInTheOffice, hehe... that happend to me as well
[22:20] <hubar> It is so frustrating.
[22:20] <bremby> Thiag1: don't ever ask to ask - just ask whenever you're on IRC, that's the rule
[22:20] <ubun2> aurel42: Couldn't find package "atd".  However, the following
[22:20] <Thiag1> look, I installed ubuntu on my pc but I don't know if it's for 32 or 64 processors
[22:20] <lucax> kylepike: try it if nothing happens, run in terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx-new and restart xserver
[22:20] <hubar> Trying to find out the perfect network card.
[22:20] <Thiag1> how can I get this information on my pc
[22:21] <hubar> That works just *fine* with hardy.
[22:21] <JInTheOffice> kylepike, I'm hoping that there's an easy back to what worked -- since it was fine until the kernel upgrade this morning.
[22:21] <lucax> Thiag1: if u know the name of the processor u know it
[22:21] <ubun2> aurel42: packages contain "atd" in their name: <long list without anything to do with at'
[22:21] <hubar> I wanna punch the dumbass who said linux supports the most devices.
[22:21] <Thiag1> NO NO
[22:21] <Thiag1> look
[22:21] <Thiag1> I know
[22:21] <RomanaMentalis> is there a good program or tutorial on gathering as much information you can about the hardware of an ubuntu system?
[22:21] <amortvigil> how can i check if my vidioe card isnt broken?
[22:21] <r3c0n> airoscript.sh: 36: Syntax error: "}" unexpected .... what could this be ??
[22:22] <lucax> Thiag1: what processor u have?
[22:22] <Thiag1> it's a 64 bits
[22:22] <RomanaMentalis> like from the command prompt
[22:22] <aurel42> ubun2: my mistake, if you're talking about the tool to start commands with a delay, it's sudo aptitude install at
[22:22] <Thiag1> but I don't know if the system is the same
[22:22] <kylepike> JInTheOffice, yeeeah, thats what ive been having fun with today... havn't gotten **** done cuss of it.
[22:22] <Raylz> hubar: maybe your device isnt just like the most
[22:22] <Thiag1> athlon x 64 5200
[22:22] <aurel42> ubun2: it will run a daemon called atd ;)
[22:22] <ubun2> aurel42: No candidate version found for at
[22:22] <Thiag1> x2
[22:22] <bremby> Thiag1: you should know what you downloaded
[22:22] <bremby> Thiag1: try uname -a in terminal
[22:22] <r3c0n> is there any problems with sh
[22:23] <lucax> Thiag1: system monitor
[22:23] <r3c0n> does it need upgrading
[22:23] <Raylz> hubar: new pc?
[22:23] <kantlivelong> is it a bad idea to install fuse on a webserver?
[22:23] <hubar> Raylz: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported out and tell me how many devices have YES/YES (work with installed system/work out of box)?
[22:23] <JInTheOffice> kylepike, I'm ahead of you there ;P     Since I'm at a different location, and running on a Windows box. Bleh. (On the other hand, it currently works.)
[22:23] <r3c0n> when it needs to be installed ..
[22:23] <aurel42> ubun2: that's fishy.
[22:23] <r3c0n> airoscript.sh: 36: Syntax error: "}" unexpected ... because of sh ?
[22:23] <ubun2> aurel42: can I not just find a link to the .deb somewhere?
[22:23] <hubar> Raylz: It is either needing ndiswrapper.
[22:23] <r3c0n> or is the issue something else ?
[22:24] <hubar> or some tweaks to work.
[22:24] <ubun2> aurel42: goolge for 'at' is a mistake. lol
[22:24] <Raylz> hubar: the more fun to work :D
[22:24] <Thiag1> it's showing: 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:47:12 GMT 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:24] <Raylz> hubar: from what i see you can get all of em working
[22:24] <hubar> I spent 1 hour trying to get NETGWG511 to work on my wife's laptop.
[22:24] <aurel42> ubun: packages.ubuntu.com/at should help, but it would be better to fix the underlying problem.
[22:25] <Thiag1> it's showing  2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:47:12 GMT 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:25] <bremby> Thiag1: that should be 32-bit. Also, as lucax said, try opening System monitor
[22:25] <hubar> I tried ndiswrapper too, but it keeps complaining invalid driver.
[22:25] <Thiag1> what you thinks
[22:25] <aurel42> ubun2: like make sure that your package manager has all the necessary package sources or something like that.
[22:25] <Thiag1> I tried but there's nohitng
[22:25] <ubun2> aurel42: I got to this page, but don't see anything but a "source" download.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/admin/at
[22:25] <AntuandeS> türkçe bilen var m0131 dostlar
[22:25] <kantlivelong> anyone know?
[22:25] <gerom> help
[22:26] <aurel42> ubun2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/at/download -- if on i386
[22:26] <Raylz> hubar: and wlan is not absolutely necessary
[22:26] <ubun2> aurel42: oh, duh. :)
[22:26] <aurel42> ubun2: but still, you shouldn't need to.
[22:26] <Raylz> hubar: you should try intel devices
[22:26] <LjL> !tr | AntuandeS
[22:26] <bremby> Thiag1: I guess then it's 32-bit, but I am not using 64-bit. I think it would have been written there, if it was 64-bit
[22:26] <Raylz> hubar: they support linux very well
[22:27] <hubar> Raylz: for PCMCIA card?
[22:27] <ubun2> aurel42: maybe my sources.list is missing a repo
[22:27] <aurel42> ubun2: have you tried refreshing your package list (in your package manager or using "sudo apt-get update")
[22:27] <ubun2> aurel42: yeah
[22:27] <bremby> if you want to be sure, you can look in /usr/lib64/ - my 32bit system has only two .so files in it
[22:27] <aurel42> ubun2: if so, it's not "a repo", it's "the main repo that you cannot live without".
[22:27] <hubar> They only have miniPCI listed there.
[22:27] <Thiag1> If I UPGRADE through the system to 8.04 LTS, is it going to adapt to 64 bits?
[22:28] <Raylz> hubar: 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[22:28] <ubun2> aurel42: well this is a work system, so they have apt-proxy.  But I just did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and it worked.
[22:28] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I've just installed Ubuntu with nvidia-settings, but twinview seems to stretch the windows across both monitors, and when I have rebooted i go back to one monitor...what am I doing wrong?
[22:28] <Raylz> hubar: its a built in card
[22:28] <aurel42> ubun2: fishy.
[22:28] <Thiag1> I checked, the folder is showing lib32
[22:28] <frawfraw> Hi.  I am installing 8.04.  I am trying to partition my disk so I keep windows intact.  I clicked "manual", but I am not sure what to do next.
[22:28] <LjL> Thiag1: upgrading from the 32-bit to the 64-bit version is, to my knowledge, not supported
[22:29] <ubun2> aurel42: btw, downloading and isntalling the .deb fixed the problem (original one anyway)
[22:29] <aurel42> ubun2: excellent
[22:29] <hubar> Raylz: oh, I am looking for a card for my wife's CompaqN600c laptop. :(
[22:29] <frawfraw> Sorry, "manual" is what I clicked in the disk partitioner.
[22:29] <aurel42> Another try... anyone got an idea how to get audio with Java (Web Start) applications without starting them in a VirtualBox running Windows?
[22:29] <ubun2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-report-tool/+bug/138743
[22:29] <Raylz> hubar: hm, are there any usb wlan cards?
[22:29] <bremby> Thiag1: if you upgrade, it will stay whatever it is
[22:30] <Thiag1> understood
[22:30] <bremby> Thiag1: anything else?
[22:30] <Thiag1> so
[22:30] <jsilvia> Anyone have any advice on how to get cpufreq-selector to overclock the CPU?  I'm running an Intel Atom at 1.6g, and want to push it to the 1.9 turbo speed it's designed for
[22:31] <Thiag1> I'm downloading the CD for 64 bits trhought the web site
[22:31] <Thiag1> and then I'll install to replace the currect one (7.04 - 32 bits) is it a probloem?
[22:32] <Thiag1> or do I have to format all first?
[22:32] <Raylz> hubar: it says Netgear WG511T works out of the box
[22:32] <bremby> Thiag1: consider using 64-bits instead of 32 before installing - it doesn't offer that much speed increased, but it has lower stability with programs designed for 32
[22:32] <Raylz> hubar: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices
[22:32] <hubar> Raylz: I have a very old version WG511 v1.
[22:33] <bremby> Thiag1: I have never upgraded from 32 to 64 bits, I think it should be possible, but I wouldn't do that, since there may be many dependency problems and others
[22:33] <EatShrooms> Howdy ho neighborinos! Is there any way I could have a different set of icons for each workstation?
[22:33] <Thiag1> yes?
[22:33] <Thiag1> really?
[22:33] <Thiag1> oo god...
[22:34] <bremby> Thiag1: if you're not gonna run apps that need that much speed, like servers or databases, I wouldn't do that
[22:34] <jean-martin> ikonia, I removed nvidia new and nvidia-glx and still have the problem
[22:34] <Thiag1> understood....
[22:34] <hubar> Raylz: I think I will get the 3com one. :)
[22:35] <hubar> Raylz: cheap and seems to work!
[22:35] <bremby> Thiag1: it's a lot different, programs need to be often rewritten to use 64-bit, and although it should be compatible, it's not 100% guaranteed
[22:35] <Thiag1> but If I install 64bits, later, will I be able to run anything which is for 32 bits only?
[22:36] <bremby> Thiag1: yes, but as I say - better to run 64-bit apps on 64-bit OS, and 32 on 32, but I don't recommend running 32 on 64
[22:36] <bremby> Thiag1: remember the old Windows ?
[22:36] <Thiag1> I used XP no longer time
[22:37] <bremby> they had 16-bit core but emulated 32bits... how messy that was... it's not a good idea to play with bits :)
[22:37] <bremby> Thiag1: if you're a general user, go with 32 bits
[22:38] <bremby> you get better app range and support...
[22:38] <Thiag1> ok then
[22:38] <bender1337> hi, is the new version of ubuntu coming out tomorrow?
[22:38] <Thiag1> Actually I'd like to use all the powerfull from my PC
[22:38] <bremby> bender1337: depends on where you're from :)
[22:39] <Thiag1> by installing an OS accordingly
[22:39] <bremby> Thiag1: you won't see much speed increasement
[22:39] <bender1337> bremby, us?
[22:39] <onthefence9281> hey how do i see what kind of harddrives my laptop uses so i know what to look for when i look for a rpelacement
[22:39] <Wicked> so the new ubuntu is gonna be released in 2 days....is it still being worked on? or just being finalized and distributed to all the download servers?
[22:39] <Thiag1> but as you're saying that probably I can have problems with 32B programs... I don't know now...
[22:39] <bremby> bender1337: yes, you :) if you're from Eastern Europe, then yes, if later, then the day after tommorow :)
[22:39] <Wicked> could i install it tonight? or do they make the final iso on the day its released?
[22:40] <bender1337> bremby, cool beans
[22:40] <EatShrooms> Is there any way I could have a different set of icons for each workstation?
[22:40] <Thiag1> and about upgrade my current version to 8.04
[22:40] <Thiag1> do you see some difference?
[22:40] <bremby> Thiag1: I would prefer stability than that little speed you get with 64 :)
[22:40] <nalka> Hi guys, problem mounting usb drive : dmesg "usbcore: deregistering interface driver usb-storage", on ubunty hardy
[22:41] <bremby> Thiag1: upgrade to 8.04? THAT'S a DIFFERENCE!
[22:41] <hubar> How do you upgrade?
[22:41] <Thiag1> m...
[22:41] <EatShrooms> Is there any way I could switch between save states of my login? Like have multiple ones?
[22:41] <Thiag1> security?
[22:41] <Thiag1> new design?
[22:41] <hubar> Using GUI? or Command line?
[22:41] <onthefence9281> when 8.10 comes out should i upgrade my hardy heron? or try to do a complete reinstall?
[22:42] <marshtomp> !ibid | onthefence9281
[22:42] <marshtomp> !ibex | onthefence9281
[22:42] <marshtomp> lol
[22:42] <marshtomp> lol
[22:42] <FloodBot3> marshtomp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <_ykram> the upgrade worked for me
[22:42] <bremby> Thiag1: everything gets new, what is developed - for example latest stable karnel, newest stable compiz fusion, etc.
[22:42] <hubar> _ykram: How did you upgrade?
[22:43] <hubar> apt-get distro-upgrade?
[22:43] <Thiag1> os it's better..
[22:43] <Thiag1> I'll do that now
[22:43] <Thiag1> will I lose my files that I saved here?
[22:43] <bremby> EatShrooms: how do you mean it?
[22:43] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hey everyone. I need a spot of help with a plugin installing. I performed sudo apt-get install php5-gd successfully, but my GD-enabled PHP script still reports that it's not installed. Did I do something wrong?
[22:44] <bremby> Thiag1: if you're running from harddrive, then you won't lose anything
[22:44] <cobelloy> hi I have a little problem with internet - I have a wireless modem that works fine with wvdial but only when the ethernet and regular wireless adapters are disabled, the ppp0 interface does not show up in the network manager so I cannot set it as the default route - how do I make it show up there?
[22:44] <cobelloy> I am using kubuntu - but that channel is very quiet
[22:44] <Thiag1> yes, I'll do that by using Update Manager
[22:44] <EatShrooms> Is there any way I could switch between saved running applications states of my login? Like have multiple ones?
[22:45] <Thiag1> there's a button to upgrade
[22:45] <EatShrooms> rephrased*
[22:45] <AirstrikeIvanov> nevermind - my script can find it now all of a sudden
[22:45] <Thiag1> so that's it...
[22:45] <bremby> Thiag1: If you're running normal instalation of Ubuntu, you won't lose anything. That would be only if you were running in RAM :)
[22:45] <Thiag1> thanks a lot
[22:46] <Thiag1> :)
[22:46] <marshtomp> !noprob | Thiag1
[22:46] <bremby> EatShrooms: you want more accounts or what?
[22:46] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:46] <Thiag1> by everybody
[22:46] <bremby> Thiag1: always happy to see new faces with Ubuntu! :)
[22:46] <Thiag1> bye
[22:46] <bremby> bye
[22:46] <Thiag1> for sure
[22:46] <pr0fane> What is better in 8.10 than in 8.04?
[22:46] <ilja> i got a nvidia driver enabled but i still cant get a higher resolution
[22:46] <Thiag1> I'm at this better side
[22:46] <marshtomp> !ibex | pr0fane
[22:47] <EatShrooms> bremby: I'd like to avoid more logins but I guess that's one solution. I have a lot of OS problems with making accounts
[22:47] <hel_> where is the language configuration file? I seem to have the wrong language
[22:47] <Thiag1> after using one time a linux OS I saw the freedom
[22:47] <Thiag1> theh
[22:47] <pietrubens> hello
[22:47] <Thiag1> bye all
[22:47] <pr0fane> ilja, I recommand you to install EnvyNG and install nvidia driver from there
[22:47] <pietrubens> anyone familiar with amaya?
[22:48] <jarussi> anyone knows how to recogniza CD-rom on APT or something like that?
[22:48] <Flannel> jarussi: sudo apt-cdrom add
[22:48] <cobelloy> anyone know how I can get network manager to see the ppp0 interface if it does not show up there?
[22:48] <jsilvia> ifconfig ppp0 up
[22:48] <bremby> EatShrooms: I don't know what you're trying to achieve. For example I have 1 normal account for programming and stuff, other for playing games, other for other bussiness
[22:49] <cobelloy> jsilvia: the interface is already up, using wvdial
[22:49] <hel_> anyone?
[22:49] <cobelloy> it just doesnt show up in network manager
[22:49] <iAlien> is fetch available on ubuntu - when i try to run fetch http://www.somewebsite.com/file.tar.gz it says command not found
[22:49] <marshtomp> cowbellboy: hello
[22:49] <Flannel> iAlien: Whats wrong with wget?
[22:49] <EatShrooms> I tried that too, but I have ridiculous problems with applications when I use certain logins
[22:50] <pietrubens> nobody in here knows amaya?
[22:50] <iAlien> nothing really -- i just type fetch by force of habbit
[22:50] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me to sort out my dual-screen with nvidia-settings, as all my applications, browsers, etc are stretched across both monitors when I maximise
[22:50] <marshtomp> !patience | pietrubens
[22:50] <marshtomp> hi netecho from sorcerynet
[22:50] <yoyoned> iAlien: use wget
[22:51] <NetEcho> marshtomp thats only 1 of many networks I'm on
[22:51] <marshtomp> !offtopic | netecho
[22:51] <NetEcho> uh you're the one who started the offtopic bud
[22:51] <marshtomp> no i just said hello
[22:52] <NetEcho> you also brought another network into the talk
[22:52] <iAlien> not that it really matters - but what is the diffrence
[22:52] <Jowi> iAlien, "wget -c http://.....blah...blah..." will continue if download fails halfway
[22:52] <iAlien> awww
[22:52] <marshtomp> it was just a greeting; greetings are permitted under various clauses of the code of conduct. for further discussion of rules, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:52] <bremby> mikebeecham: I know what you wanna achieve, I never know how I did it - I just switch to "Separate X screen", save to file, restart X server, switch back to TwinView, save to file, restart X server, here it goes
[22:53] <Jowi> iAlien, you can use "alias" to use wget if you type "fetch"
[22:53] <mikebeecham> bremby: just do that, or do it all the time?
[22:53] <helpfulist> does anyone know where i can get proper Ati drivers for my: X1650 pro because I'm apparently using some restricted drivers and when i try to play any games or movies i have a constant flickering :(
[22:53] <NetEcho> marshtomp please stop trying to act like an operator and actually try to help someone
[22:53] <mikebeecham> and how do I restart X server?
[22:53] <VladimirLV> How i can view PHP processes (some runing php daemons, as php irc bot..)?
[22:54] <helpfulist> does anyone know where i can get proper Ati drivers for my: X1650 pro because I'm apparently using some restricted drivers and when i try to play any games or movies i have a constant flickering :(
[22:54] <pr0fane> install EnvyNG, helpfulist
[22:54] <NetEcho> winterelf I would suggest not using IRC under the root account, it can be hazardous
[22:54] <bremby> mikebeecham: once you have it connected, you do it once and it's there. and I use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X server. Warning: it shuts down all your running apps
[22:54] <helpfulist> what does EnvyNG do?
[22:54] <Jowi> mikebeecham, "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[22:55] <NetEcho> winterelf can we help you?
[22:56] <winterelf> lol
[22:56] <winterelf> no, listen
[22:56] <talmoud> lut
[22:57] <winterelf> i m changing my irssi theme, and i wand to enter this channel and exit, cause i wanna see how the theme looks like, and here u people talks a lot so it helps me see my theme
[22:57] <NetEcho> I see, winterelf you are aware running your irc client as root is a bad idea right?
[22:57] <winterelf> hmm, no... but how do u know that?
[22:58] <NetEcho> winterelf is n=root@77.127.59.92 * root
[22:58] <hubar> [18:57]	[22:58] <pr0fane> why is it a bad idea?
[22:58] <NetEcho> irssi and most other clients default to the logged in user for that info
[22:58] <winterelf> shit
[22:58] <winterelf> oops
[22:58] <NetEcho> pr0fane because if there is an exploit in the client an attacker can gain full root control of your machine
[22:58] <takamarou> Hi, I'm trying to install the game Black and white with crossover..  The game seemed to install fine, but as soon as I get past the intro movie, it crashes.  Anyone have any previous knowledge or ideas on this game?
[22:58] <Jowi> pr0fane, should only use root/admin accounts when modifying system. it's not needed otherwise
[22:59] <marshtomp> can i run cron as root
[22:59] <winterelf> didn't know that stuff
[22:59] <Jowi> !root | winterelf (this is a good read)
[23:00] <winterelf> lol
[23:00] <winterelf> ok
[23:00] <Jowi> takamarou, http://appdb.winehq.org/ is very useful to troubleshoot wine games
[23:00] <winterelf> i think i need to reloogin
[23:00] <marshtomp> does 'sudo' stand for 'super-user do'
[23:00] <marshtomp> to do something as a super-user
[23:01] <kitche> marshtomp yes
[23:01] <Flannel> marshtomp: switch user do, but close enough.
[23:01] <takamarou> Jowi, does that work with crossover, usually?
[23:01] <wificonfigger> hello I'm having issues setting up wifi on my sister's computer; does anyone here have experience with that
[23:01] <pjvandehaar> @wificonfigger - tried ndiswrapper?
[23:01] <Jowi> takamarou, don't know. they use the same base but I know crossover is not 100% compatible
[23:01] <kitche> Flannel The sudo (short for super user do :)
[23:01] <bremby> wificonfigger: go on with the question...
[23:02] <kitche> Flannel: but that's ok same thing really
[23:02] <wificonfigger> pjvanderhaar, yes, and it works with unencrypted networks but not with wep or wpa
[23:02] <wificonfigger> I don't know why it doesn't work with wpa -- I am using network manager to try and connect
[23:02] <helpfulist> where do i find EnvyNG in ubuntu because when i tried installing it it said its already there
[23:03] <winterelf> guess i'm not a root now !
[23:03] <pr0fane> applications-system tools, helpfulist
[23:03] <pjvandehaar> @wificonfigger - are you sure? I really thought it had an option for wep or wma
[23:03] <pjvandehaar> or whatever its called
[23:03] <Flannel> krazihrz:/lastlog kitche
[23:03] <wificonfigger> pjvandehaar, it has the option, it just doesn't work (stalls, then fails)
[23:04] <helpfulist> where do i find EnvyNG in ubuntu because when i tried installing it it said its already there
[23:04] <pr0fane> applications-system tools
[23:04] <pr0fane> open it from there
[23:05] <helpfulist> there is no system tools in that menu
[23:05] <pjvandehaar> @wificonfigger - i have no idea then. you've tried doing a google search or searching ubuntu forums?
[23:05] <helpfulist> @ pr0fane there is no system tools in that menu
[23:05] <bremby> helpfulist: try searching :)
[23:06] <pr0fane> @helfulist... i know that it`s there in Ubuntu 8.04 :D
[23:06] <helpfulist> @ pr0fane oops i'm in 8.10
[23:06] <wificonfigger> pjvandehaar -- I've tried searching and tried alternate solutions like wpa supplicant but they haven't worked so far (It's been about 2 months since I tried last) I think part of the problem is I don't know exactly what is going wrong. Why does wifi work, just not with encryption?
[23:07] <pr0fane> search then
[23:07] <winterelf> say, can someone tell me where can i find yakuake keys? i meen like when i want to switch between sessions or open another session , what's the shortcats?
[23:07] <helpfulist> how? alt+f2?
[23:07] <pr0fane> that should work
[23:07] <Scunizi> wificonfigger: ask in #ubuntu+1 if the new version fixes this.. You might be surprised
[23:07] <pr0fane> alt+f2 and EnvyNG
[23:08] <wificonfigger> scunizi: will do!
[23:08] <onthefence9281> how complicated would it be for me to replace one or both of my laptop's harddrives?
[23:08] <helpfulist> @ pr0fane Nothing, anything that i can do in terminal?
[23:09] <winterelf> pr0fane: did u tell me about the alt+f12? cause i didn't understand
[23:09] <bremby> onthefence9281: you can break warranty, if you have any
[23:09] <Jowi> onthefence9281, hard as in physical undoing the screws or hard as in moving all your data over?
[23:09] <onthefence9281> bremby: i already did by using ubuntu i guess
[23:09] <pr0fane> just push and hold alt+f2 and type in EnvyNG and hit enter
[23:09] <pr0fane> i dont know how to open it from terminal
[23:10] <winterelf> u didn't understand
[23:10] <bremby> onthefence9281: why do you think so?
[23:10] <onthefence9281> Jowi: hard in the software sense, since i have most of my /home on sda and my ubuntu install/swap and some of /home of SDB
[23:11] <Ro1> Is the new Ubuntu different from the current one?
[23:11] <helpfulist> pr0fane: it says ''could not open location''
[23:11] <Jowi> onthefence9281, then it's not very hard. You can use the data on /home if you install the system on another disk. no probs
[23:11] <winterelf> pr0fane: i ment, when i'm on yakuake, and i m using session1 how can i open another session whithout using the mouse? and if i have 2 sessions open how can i switch between them
[23:11] <pjvandehaar> @ro1 - yes, but not so different
[23:11] <onthefence9281> Jowi: will ubuntu freak at the new drive? or will it not care?
[23:11] <pjvandehaar> and comes out in 2 days
[23:12] <Scunizi> Ro1: always there are differences between the current and new releases.
[23:12] <pr0fane> i don`t even know what yakauake is
[23:12] <Ro1> thank you :)
[23:12] <winterelf> hehe
[23:12] <onthefence9281> Jowi: and what about maybe rpelacing SDB?
[23:12] <Danskmand> Hi :-) - I am installing capisuite with "sudo apt-get install capisuite" it also installs courier-mta - but I dont need it ! - So I execute "sudo apt-get remove courier-mta" - this removes courier-mta AND capisuite.....How can I install capisuite WITHOUT courier ?
[23:12] <pietrubens> anybody in here can help me out with amaya?
[23:12] <Falcons_roost> I have a flash vidio I want converted into avi What program should I use ?
[23:13] <Falcons_roost> video*
[23:13] <winterelf> i think /j yakuake will help :P
[23:13] <Scunizi> pietrubens: installing it or what?
[23:13] <Jowi> onthefence9281, it will detect the new disk but shouldn't care about it. if you wish to replace the disk that contain the system files then a clean install is recommended and then just mount sda as /home on the new system
[23:13] <amortvigil> how can i umount my home partition so i can shrink it?
[23:13] <Scunizi> Falcons_roost: avidemux
[23:13] <pjvandehaar> @danskand - im sure there's a way, but is it a problem?
[23:13] <Chousuke> amortvigil: boot from a live CD
[23:13] <Falcons_roost> ty
[23:13] <Jowi> need to sleep. 'night all
[23:13] <Scunizi> amortvigil: use the live cd
[23:14] <onthefence9281> jowi: ok then maybe i'll do it when i decide to use 8.10
[23:14] <amortvigil> Scunizi: ok ty
[23:14] <pietrubens> @scunizi: no the help file is a bit vague, and i could use some help in using it
[23:14] <winterelf> guess what, nobody live in yakuake channel just wierd CIA guys
[23:14] <Danskmand> pjvandehaar: Yes it is :-) - I then have 2 mta's installed on the same machine !
[23:15] <Scunizi> pietrubens: sorry.. I'm not well versed in it.. this would be the right channel anyway.. not ubuntu specific enough.. you might try ##linux or maybe amaya has a channel
[23:15] <notdarkyet> what is the difference if you download the release candidate now and in two days?
[23:15] <Scunizi> pietrubens: would not be the right channel ..
[23:15] <Scunizi> notdarkyet: if you do the updates .. nothing
[23:15] <notdarkyet> k
[23:15] <notdarkyet> thanks
[23:15] <Blaidd> I need help with an ati x1550 card.  Anyone feel lik banging their head against a wall with me?
[23:16] <amortvigil> Blaidd: whats the prob?
[23:16] <Scunizi> Blaidd: too late I already have an indentation.. not going there again.. :)
[23:16] <Blaidd> amortvigil: I can't seem to get the ati drivers working, and not sure where to look next
[23:16] <pietrubens> @scunizi: i created an amaya room, since there was none, and still waiting for the first visitor... hehehe
[23:16] <Scunizi> pietrubens: good luck with that. :-)
[23:16] <Blaidd> amortvigil: Already tried everythin here : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[23:17] <Blaidd> Scunizi: No worries, I understand completely
[23:17] <pietrubens> cheers scunizi, thank you for your time ;)
[23:17] <Scunizi> pietrubens: np.. good luck
[23:18] <Blaidd> amortvigil: I get green lines and a fuzzy screen when I try to use the fglrx driver, but I need it to use xv accelerated video playback for myth
[23:19] <wificonfigger> does anyone here know how to use wpasupplicant with ndiswrapper (specifically -Dwext or -Dndiswrapper... the ndiswrapper wiki seems to be down)
[23:20] <ubnote> wificonfigger: -D wext
[23:20] <PaigeWitchyWoman> :o
[23:20] <Blaidd> am I likely to have more luck with something like a geforce 8800 gt?
[23:20] <wificonfigger> ubnote: you are awesome. thanks
[23:20] <q0r3> hey all.  i'm a little confused about this nvidia binary driver debacle with xorg 7.4.  as far as i can tell, everyone keeps saying it's nvidia's fault.  but they didn't change anything; xorg did.  why aren't people clamoring for xorg to be patched instead?
[23:20] <Certh> hi
[23:21] <for_ever__> I'd like to know how I can uninstall a source code...
[23:21] <Certh> who updated to intrepid?
[23:21] <q0r3> for_ever__, the source should have come with a makefile.  if you go into the installation directory, in the terminal type "make clean"
[23:22] <for_ever__> i'll try...
[23:22] <for_ever__> it's running...
[23:22] <Scunizi> Certh: check out #ubuntu+1 for intrepid info & q&A
[23:22] <tundrayeti312> I've been messing around with Samba, and now every time i try to sudo, it says 'unable to resolve host', how do i fix this?
[23:23] <Blaidd> I"m just looking for something that's going to work that I can use for my mythbox.. any suggestions?
[23:23] <Certh> Scunizi: thanks
[23:24] <for_ever__> q0r3: it ran, but the program it's running yet
[23:24] <Scunizi> tundrayeti312: I had this issue the other day.. go to System/Admin/Network and unlock.. then click Hosts and add 127.0.0.1 and your user name
[23:24] <marshtomp> hi can i ask a question plz
[23:24] <bremby> marshtomp: ask it
[23:24] <tundrayeti312> ﻿Scunizi: ty, will do
[23:24] <for_ever__> q0r3:  i went to directorie where i could install the program, and i type "make clean", it ran but...
[23:24] <Scunizi> tundrayeti312: or actually add your desktop name.. my login is .. well lets say.. Scunizi but the machine is scunizi-desktop
[23:25] <dulak> Blaidd: any 8000 series nvidia card should do you up real nice for myth
[23:25] <q0r3> for_ever__, but...
[23:25] <Scunizi> tundrayeti312: should also take effect right away
[23:25] <marshtomp> hahaha what u gonna do without ubottu
[23:25] <dulak> !ask marshtomp
[23:25] <marshtomp> theres no ubottu !
[23:25] <marshtomp> ;)
[23:25] <Myrtti> marshtomp: get over it
[23:25] <Scunizi> !ask | marshtomp
[23:25] <_ykram> wheres the setting for concurency=on for startup
[23:25] <marshtomp> lol
[23:25] <q0r3> for_ever__, as far as i understood, you wanted to undo the changes that you made when you compiled a program from scratch.  'make clean' does just that.
[23:25] <Blaidd> The last thing I found about the 8800 GT was that it was new to the nvidai driver.. has it been optimized?
[23:26] <erisco> I want to connect to both a wireless and a wired network. the wireless network as an internet gateway, but the wired network does not. In fact, I want this computer to be the internet gateway on the wired network. how do I do this? in my network manager I cannot seem to simultaneously connect to two networks
[23:26] <for_ever__> i installed a program, but i dont want more
[23:26] <dulak> Blaidd: I don't have an 8800 so I don't know, 8600 works great for myth though for sure
[23:27] <q0r3> for_ever__, "make clean" removes the program.  it doesn't install anything.
[23:27] <bremby> erisco: try "routed", a program, routing daemon
[23:27] <Danskmand> pjvandehaar - Are you there ?
[23:27] <bremby> erisco: google i
[23:27] <bremby> t
[23:27] <Scunizi> erisco: by chance are you wanting to use the wireless to provide access to another machine like internet connection sharing?  otherwise why bother
[23:27]  * md22 cries xfi sound card doesn't work in Ubuntu 8.04
[23:27] <erisco> Scunizi, yes. the situation is that I have one wireless adapter and two computers
[23:27] <Blaidd> dulak: how was it for install?  pretty painless?
[23:27] <nalka> goodbye !!
[23:27] <dulak> Blaidd: yeah no issues for me
[23:28] <erisco> Scunizi, should I look at "routed" like bremby suggested?
[23:28] <Scunizi> erisco: and a wireless router?
[23:28] <Blaidd> dulak: sweet.. thanks..
[23:28] <for_ever__> q0r3: yeah, but when i run my program that need this program (what i want to uninstall), my program runs perfectly
[23:28] <erisco> Scunizi, yup
[23:28] <LjL> !away > Xang_away    (Xang_away, see the private message from Ubottu)
[23:28] <Skky> question - i have been looking through Wine, and I am unsure about this.  How exactly do you install windows programs to run on wine, on linux?  Just put their installation CD in?
[23:28] <Scunizi> erisco: so is it a problem to plug one machine in and use the wireless with the other?
[23:28] <Blaidd> dulak: do you mind if I ask the specs?
[23:28] <erisco> Scunizi, both machines are at remote locations, so both must use wireless. I have only one adapter though
[23:28] <md22> question are the  XFi sound cards supported in Linux ?
[23:28] <dulak> Blaidd: like the full specs of the computer?
[23:28] <erisco> Scunizi, they are both beside each other, see
[23:29] <q0r3> for_ever__, then obviously the other program doesn't "need" that program to run, does it.
[23:29] <Blaidd> dulak: no, of the video card.   the ram and what not
[23:29] <dulak> Blaidd: sec and I'll link a spec sheet
[23:29] <Scunizi> erisco: k.. not sure if "routed" is the right thing.. but ICS is.. unfortunatly without ubbotu I can't provide a link.. maybe someone else here will know where to go.
[23:29] <LjL> Skky: that might not be enough since i don't think ubuntu will do the autorun thing on the cd. you will have to start the setup.exe (or whatever it's called) manually
[23:29] <Blaidd> dulak: thx..
[23:29] <Windsurfer619> How can I lock my virtual terminals when my screensaver turns on?
[23:29] <jordan_> hi
[23:30] <Skky> LjL: and then Wine will know what to do, and take over?
[23:30] <erisco> Scunizi, the other thing is that my network manager, wicd, doesn't seem to let me connect to two networks at the same time
[23:30] <for_ever__> q0r3: no, my program needs it
[23:31] <erisco> Scunizi, I do not know how to overcome this, even if I do know how to share the connection
[23:31] <q0r3> for_ever__, we just proved it doesn't.
[23:31] <jordan_> I need help with my wireless, its slow and I cant get drivers to work in ndiswrapper
[23:31] <Socapex_2K> Hello everybody! I am currently having big problems with my 1hr or  so new 8.04 install. I have an ATI 1650pro video card, and after my install ubuntu kindly asked if I wanted to install the drivers for it. I said, well yes of course, and after reboot and ubuntu splash screen is done loading, everything is black.
[23:31] <q0r3> for_ever__, which program did you just install?  and which program allegedly needs it?
[23:31] <jordan_> I need help with my wireless, its slow and I cant get drivers to work in ndiswrapper
[23:31] <for_ever__> q0r3: what i want it is to uninstall this version and install another
[23:31] <Scunizi> erisco: when ics is setup you'll be able to.. basically the machine with the wireless will connect to the router with wireless.. then the hard nick card in that same machine will connect to the other machine probably with a crossover cable to provide internet to it.
[23:32] <bremby> erisco: I think your network manager just sets the primary network device, which to use to go to Internet. but in fact you're connected to both (if there are no problems like with IPs or something... )
[23:32] <winterelf> back
[23:32] <dulak> Blaidd: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8600.html
[23:32] <kthef> Socapex_2K, have you tried ENVY?
[23:32] <Socapex_2K> My question is this, how can I locate the drive to uninstall it (using apt in root shell, I would think)?
[23:32] <LjL> Skky: not necessarily. your GNOME might or might not know that Windows executables need to be started with WINE (i suspect having the "binfmt-support" package installed helps with that), and if it doesn't, you'll have to run the program manually with something like "wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe"
[23:32] <dulak> Blaidd: I have the 8600 GT
[23:32] <erisco> bremby, I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but its 3 years old
[23:32] <Windsurfer619> )Q( How can I lock my virtual terminals when my screensaver turns on?
[23:32] <Socapex_2K> kthef: what is envy?
[23:32] <erisco> bremby, any ideas where I can learn how to setup ics?
[23:33] <q0r3> Socapex_2K, it's a utiility to download, install, and configure the latest binary nvidia or ati driver
[23:33] <kthef> Socapex_2K, it is an auto video driver installer for ATI and Nvidia
[23:33] <for_ever__> q0r3: i need to uninstall graphiviz-2.20.3, and install ﻿graphiviz-2.21.3, before install the second... i need to uninstall the old version, don i?
[23:33] <kthef> Socapex_2K, sudo apt-get install envy
[23:33] <Blaidd> dulak: great, thanks
[23:33] <winterelf> back again
[23:33] <jordan_> I need help with my wireless, its slow and I cant get drivers to work in ndiswrapper
[23:33] <Xang> Socapex_2k: Python program for installing proprietary graphics drivers.
[23:33] <winterelf> great, i found my irssi theme!
[23:33] <winterelf> zng.theme!
[23:34] <kthef> Socapex_2K, it works great for Nvidia...  it has an ATI installation in it too, but I haven't used it.
[23:34] <Socapex_2K> I didn't know about it! But now i'm in the root prompt, so I'll give apt-get a try with envy, see what that does.
[23:34] <NetEcho> congrats winterelf
[23:34] <jordan_> I need help with my wireless, its slow and I cant get drivers to work in ndiswrapper
[23:34] <Socapex_2K> you see i can't load ubuntu no more :(
[23:35] <q0r3> for_ever__, really depends on the specifics of how that application compiles.  you might want to check out their documentation.  but if you installed the newer version, then uninstalled the older one, and the newer one works fine, i'd say you have nothing to worry about.
[23:35] <Scout> If I upgrade to Ibex now will I be able to run a software update and get the full version when it comes out?
[23:35] <Myrtti> patience, jordan_
[23:35] <Myrtti> Scout: yes
[23:35] <NetEcho> jordan_ repeating the question every few seconds won't help
[23:35] <bremby> erisco: I think the howto you provided is just fine. If you think you can follow the steps, there shouldn't be any problem :)
[23:35] <kitche> Scout: if you update now you will pretty much have full version
[23:36] <Myrtti> Scout: I'd wait until Friday though, if I were you
[23:36] <Doc8404> my vlc media player doesnt play music.... but my firefox does... why
[23:36] <jordan_> k
[23:36] <Scout> Why is that?
[23:36] <tundrayeti312> ﻿Scunizi: the problem seems to be that i have 'WORKGROUP' specified in domain name under General.... so it keeps changing user-desktop to user-desktop.WORKGROUP, any thoughts?
[23:36] <jordan_> well I need help asap before my wireless disconnects me
[23:36] <Myrtti> Scout: because of the last minute fixes that are bound to come before the official release
[23:37] <bremby> erisco: "routed" as I suggested before was the first thing that came on my mind, it's probably old by now. As you can see, Googling is really helpful, you managed it on your own :)
[23:37] <for_ever__> q0r3:  i'll try to install the newer, and i see what happens, thank your help
[23:37] <Scout> Yeah but I figure since I won't have time on Thursday I might as well go through the setup now and upgrade on Thursday
[23:38] <NetEcho> jordan_ if you're connected then your drivers should be working, could possibly be an issue with the router
[23:38] <erisco> bremby, it says "Reconfigure ipmasq to start after networking has been started"... is this after network interfaces are brought up or network services?
[23:38] <Socapex_2K> kthef, should i install envyng_core, envyng_qt or envyng_gtk. or none?
[23:38] <jordan_> no
[23:39] <jordan_> i use windows and its fine
[23:39] <jordan_> here on ubuntu I get like 48% signal when I get 92% signal on windows
[23:39] <amortvigil> how do i mount /dev/sda7 in live cd?
[23:39] <kthef> Socapex_2K, just envy
[23:39] <kthef> it will do the rest
[23:39] <kthef> Socapex_2K, using apt-get install
[23:39] <Socapex_2K> then it can't find :(
[23:39] <LjL> jordan_: signal percentage is something given arbitrarily by the driver, don't rely on that for anything
[23:39] <blip-> hi, i noticed eclipse 3.2.2 is on the hardy repos... but the latest is 3.4.1.... can i use the built-in update feature to update or should i instead download the prog from eclipse.org directly ?   Thanks
[23:39] <Socapex_2K> i'll check out my sources
[23:39] <dulak> Socapex_2K: install envy-gtk and it'll install what you need
[23:39] <jordan_> yes but speeds are slow
[23:40] <bremby> networking means network interfaces. Services do their job, routing shouldn't be dependent on them...
[23:40] <jordan_> i get around 10-30kbps on wireless when i get like 200-500kbps on windows
[23:40] <Socapex_2K> ok
[23:40] <kthef> Socapex_2K, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[23:40] <bremby> that was for erisco
[23:40] <Socapex_2K> thanks
[23:40] <erisco> bremby, looks like I made the wrong choice then...
[23:41] <erisco> bremby, I hope I can just back up to that step
[23:41] <Anza> I know its not something to discuss here, but does anyone know how to fix it when gmail doesnt let u send emails because it marks it as spam?
[23:41] <bremby> erisco: why? what's wrong?
[23:41] <erisco> bremby, I said for it to start after services, not interfaces
[23:41] <pjvandehaar> anza - search google
[23:41] <LjL> "i know it's not something to dsicuss here but i'll do it anyway". anza, please don't. #ubuntu-offtopic if you just don't know where you ask something
[23:42] <Anza> pjvandehaar, I am on it, but not a hint about how to fix it
[23:42] <bremby> erisco: it shouldn't be a problem, you can try it and then reconfigure
[23:42] <LjL> blip-, you won't have much luck upgrading the package, since it's not even in intrepid. but as for what you "should" do, if you ask me, i'd keep the current version, instead of going through the risks of installing it from eclipse.org
[23:42] <bremby> erisco: if it wouldn't work
[23:42] <jordan_> so what do i do to fix this, how do i install ralink2500pci drivers into ndiswrapper
[23:43] <tundrayeti312> Whenever I use sudo it says "unable to resolve host", i keep adding my computer name as 127.0.0.1 in hosts, but it keeps changing it to compname.WORKGROUP, how do i fix this?
[23:43] <erisco> bremby, now wicd says I am connected to the wired network
[23:43] <erisco> bremby, yet I am still talking to you
[23:44] <erisco> bremby, bleh... weird things... I don't like 'em
[23:44] <favro> tundrayeti312: you need to have the same host listed in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[23:44] <LjL> tundrayeti312, /etc/hosts should say "127.0.0.1 localhost" (the name being localhost), not just 127.0.0.1
[23:44] <bremby> erisco: you see, you're still connected over both interfaces
[23:45] <erisco> testing123
[23:45] <erisco> am I still connected?
[23:45] <erisco> testing123
[23:45] <erisco> am I connected?
[23:45] <FloodBot1> erisco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <hellenicAlUser> someone can help me?
[23:45] <sv2asj> aaaaa
[23:45] <erisco> bremby, I dunno, did you see it twice?
[23:45] <bremby> erisco: yes you are
[23:45] <erisco> bremby, I said "testing123" twice...
[23:45] <bremby> erisco: yes, you did :)
[23:46] <NetEcho> erisco you also said am I connected twice
[23:46] <erisco> bremby, so wicd is simple setting the "default" interface, then
[23:46] <NetEcho> erisco thats why FloodBot1 warned you
[23:46] <erisco> NetEcho, that is a relief, thanks
[23:47] <bremby> ersico: remember, Linux and other *nix-based OSs are network-based. which means you can get a lot of magic from them :)
[23:47] <tundrayeti312> ﻿favro: ty thats the issue. I'm trying to setup samba, so i want to keep a domain name, so should i be using the compname.WORKGROUP then for both?
[23:47] <hellenicAlUser> someone help me?
[23:48] <LjL> !ask | hellenicAlUser
[23:48] <LjL> hellenicAlUser: saying "someone help me" is useless, ask your question
[23:48] <favro> tundrayeti312: the entry in both those files has to match so yes
[23:48] <hellenicAlUser> i'm new to ubuntu
[23:48] <bremby> LjL: replacing ubottu? :)
[23:48] <tundrayeti312> favro: ok ty again
[23:48] <hellenicAlUser> and i can't install my graphics card
[23:48] <LjL> bremby: since it's MIA...
[23:48] <LjL> hellenicAlUser: which graphics card is that?
[23:49] <hellenicAlUser> ati HD3870
[23:49] <blip-> LjL:  i didn't get the part about intrepid... when i run the update tool within eclipse it shows me some updates, strangely enough the update is title eclipse 3.2.2 and eclipse 3.2.2-patches so maybe it's trying to reinstall the same thing again.   I noticed they offer the download on their website as a .tar.gz  http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.4.1-200809111700/linPlatform.php#EclipseSDK   .... do you think its a binary or
[23:49] <blip-> something i have to compile manually ... if so then it's definitely not worth it.   (isn't it strange that the repo version is so old... or is it because most focus on the repo updates goes to 8.10 ? )   Sorry too many questions there.
[23:50] <DG19075> c xz
[23:50] <hellenicAlUser> i search all 2 days but i cant find solution
[23:50] <LjL> blip-: Intrepid is 8.10. there might be several reason why the new version isn't even there. the package they offer is probably a binary (at least, one of them is), but that can actually be *worse* that compiling from source code.
[23:50] <LjL> hellenicAlUser: this page has instructions for ATI cards - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:50] <swif> I just opened a Terminal window and issued the `sudo su` command.  It asked for my user password, and once entered appears to escalate me to the root user.  The shell apparently then `exit`s the root session and returns me to my user prompt, and the `exit` command appears when I press any button.  The shell then no longer responds.  See my terminal output here: http://rafb.net/p/DXPcmd44.html (2 lines)
[23:51] <_Krishna_>   "Money is power or shall we say, the monopoly to create credit money and charge interest is absolute power" : Alex James
[23:51] <_Krishna_> "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws":  Amschel Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838
[23:51] <_Krishna_> Letter written from London by the Rothschilds to their New  York agents introducing their banking method into America:  "The few who can understand the system will be either so  interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours,  that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on  the other hand, that great body of people, mentally  incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that  Capital derives from the system, wi
[23:51] <hellenicAlUser> thanks
[23:52] <blip-> LjL: i see.  i guess i'll settle with 3.2.2 until they upgrade the repo package.  thanks for the help
[23:52] <LjL> blip-: don't hold your breath though... if it's not in Intrepid, it's unlikely to be anywhere soon
[23:52] <FloodBot1> _Krishna_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <LjL> blip-: it's not even in debian unstable
[23:53] <FloodBot1> _Krishna_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <WelshDragon> O.o
[23:53] <NetEcho> :o
[23:53] <NetEcho> bot is lagged
[23:53] <LjL> no it isn't
[23:53] <gasull> Hi,  I just installed postgresql-8.2.  I restarted the server, but Postgres is not running.  How should I start it?  /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 start does nothing
[23:53] <blip-> LjL:  ye i guess there isn't much demand for it.  most poeple probably write code with a vim...
[23:54] <NetEcho> LjL it warned him/her 3 mintues after the fact :o
[23:54] <LjL> blip-: i doubt that's the case
[23:54] <LjL> NetEcho: not true, they were still doing it, but were muted.
[23:54] <Myrtti> NetEcho: he kept flooding unseen to your eyes ;-)
[23:54] <NetEcho> ah
[23:54] <NetEcho> that makes more sense
[23:54] <LjL> NetEcho: and they won't reply to your pings, either
[23:54] <pjvandehaar> is LjL a person?
[23:54] <NetEcho> heh
[23:54] <Myrtti> pjvandehaar: very much so
[23:55] <LjL> pjvandehaar: i don't think so, why?
[23:55] <bremby> LjL is a Japanese bot! with advanced AI!
[23:55] <pjvandehaar> Too smart to be a bot, but too general of answers for a person
[23:55] <pjvandehaar> oh
[23:56] <_JayT_> just installed 8.04 - how come i dont see the advanced desktop settings?
[23:56] <Curtis> Realtek RTL8193 10/100 Ethernet LAN anyone get that to work in ubuntu?
[23:56] <LjL> _JayT_: maybe your card isn't supported by them, what card is it?
[23:56] <bremby> _JayT_: you need to install a package, i think ccsm... ?
[23:56] <_JayT_> nvidia
[23:56] <blip-> that's pretty advanced
[23:56] <_JayT_> like a 8600GT
[23:57] <_JayT_> yeah i think so
[23:57] <_JayT_> ccsm ?
[23:57] <_JayT_> maybe i do need that pkg
[23:57] <_JayT_> aptitude?
[23:57] <blip-> same as mine actually.  everyone has that card these days
[23:57] <NetEcho> LjL is it a specific ban that only ops can see the person talking?
[23:57] <_ykram> can i please ask if i can please ask or should i just ask if i can ask that
[23:57] <bremby> _JayT_: you can use Add/Remove applications
[23:57] <bremby> or Synaptic
[23:57] <LjL> _JayT_: it makes no difference which APT program you use to install packages
[23:57] <_ykram> oops wrong channel :/
[23:57] <LjL> NetEcho, i'd do !mode > NetEcho on you, but the bot is MIA
[23:58] <blip-> _ykram: ask if you can please ask to ask....
[23:58] <LjL> anyway, yes
[23:58] <_JayT_> right, no diff
[23:58] <NetEcho> lol
[23:58] <_JayT_> i gotcha
[23:58] <NetEcho> interesting modes this IRCd has
[23:58] <NetEcho> anyway
[23:58] <NetEcho> back on topic for me
[23:58] <diese1> i was trying to setup network sharing and created a folder in /media.  but i know it won't let me remove via right click
[23:58] <LjL> good idea
[23:59] <diese1> how can i delete a folder via terminal?
[23:59] <bremby> diese1: rmdir
[23:59] <jlc> rm -fR <folder>
[23:59] <_JayT_> where is it under add/remove
[23:59] <_JayT_> ?
[23:59] <kthef_> kthef, test
[23:59] <diese1> >jaT: /media