| CarlFK | does xubuntu include a vnc server ? | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| CarlFK | I installed vino - I ran vino-preferences and set "allow others to connect to your desktop" and yet port 5900 is still closed (according to nmap) | 00:59 |
| jeward | Hi, I've somehow lost the System button on my Xubuntu Intrepid Ibex? | 02:03 |
| jeward | How do I get it back? | 02:03 |
| charlie-tca | jeward: as in Applications -> System? | 02:05 |
| jeward | Oh, before I updated, it had a System button on the top bar? | 02:06 |
| jeward | Did that feature go away? | 02:06 |
| XFCEntral | jeward: for shutdown, restart, and so on? | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | upgrade from Gnome? | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu only uses Applications and Places | 02:07 |
| jeward | No, I installed Xubuntu from the start. | 02:07 |
| jeward | Okay, maybe I dreamt it. | 02:07 |
| jeward | :-) | 02:07 |
| charlie-tca | np | 02:07 |
| jeward | Thanks! | 02:08 |
| * cody-somerville blinks slowly at j1mc. | 02:46 | |
| j1mc | cody-somerville: hai! | 03:08 |
| excalibas | hello, my xubuntu doesnt play audio cds :( | 03:37 |
| excalibas | any help please? | 03:37 |
| excalibas | totem gives an error "** (totem:16618): WARNING **: Failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name | 03:39 |
| excalibas | " | 03:39 |
| excalibas | I searched google for this error and found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-767958.html | 03:40 |
| excalibas | famicommander says " I would try installing ubuntu-desktop" but if I do this I loose wicd and it will install lots of stuff I dont need (like compiz) mabie there is another way? | 03:43 |
| excalibas | I also found this "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/275882" looks the same but I have xubuntu hardy, not intrepid | 03:47 |
| excalibas | ok, seems like audacious can play them, thanks for your silent help ;) | 03:58 |
| madwho | good evening | 04:09 |
| madwho | anybody could give me hint on how to set keyboard layouts in xubuntu 8.10 ? | 04:10 |
| madwho | i tryed dpkg-reconfigure console-setup didn't help | 04:10 |
| madwho | also created /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-keyboard.fdi didn't work either | 04:11 |
| madwho | anybody alive here? | 04:11 |
| Sylent | what command could I use to change the name of all files in a folder so "%20" becomes " " ? | 07:35 |
| === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla | ||
| Soriel | Bonjour, Hello | 08:10 |
| favro | !hi | 08:10 |
| ubottu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 08:10 |
| Soriel | Is there some french channel to ask some questions ? | 08:10 |
| favro | !fr | 08:11 |
| ubottu | Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr | 08:11 |
| Soriel | I don't speak english very well ;) Thanks !! | 08:11 |
| favro | np :) | 08:11 |
| Soriel | have a good day | 08:11 |
| favro | u 2 | 08:12 |
| === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx | ||
| MaxFrames | hello | 09:51 |
| MaxFrames | I need some help in trying to make an USB wifi stick to work under Xubuntu 6.04 | 09:51 |
| MaxFrames | for now, I've installed ndiswrapper, but if I issue "lspci" the adapter is not listed, and anyway the "power" led is not lit, which would mean that the adapter is not even powered on | 09:52 |
| MaxFrames | what now? | 09:52 |
| knome | MaxFrames, what is that stick? model/brand? | 10:08 |
| MaxFrames | knome: it's an atlantis land a02-up-w108 | 10:22 |
| knome | MaxFrames, there is a thread which i think could help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654826 | 10:23 |
| knome | MaxFrames, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-4b7c00c6654b2d109b9330c28d9210db329ba573 | 10:29 |
| MaxFrames | the problem is that the card is not listed in lspci | 10:30 |
| knome | you might try lsubs if it's a usb stick | 10:31 |
| knome | *lsusb | 10:31 |
| MaxFrames | lsusb lists two devices | 10:31 |
| MaxFrames | one is "global sun technology inc" | 10:31 |
| MaxFrames | the other one is nameless | 10:31 |
| MaxFrames | perhaps the former is the w108? | 10:32 |
| knome | possible | 10:32 |
| knome | you can always try | 10:32 |
| MaxFrames | oh, another problem | 10:33 |
| MaxFrames | the page with the ndiswrapper compatible adapters gives "500 internal server error" :( | 10:34 |
| knome | ? | 10:34 |
| knome | yours is listed? | 10:35 |
| MaxFrames | the list is here | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/46385/ | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | this page gives error 500 | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | sorry wrong link | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/ | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | this is the right link | 10:36 |
| MaxFrames | apparently the sourceforge server has problems | 10:37 |
| MaxFrames | all in all, installing a driver in linux is a major hassle :( | 10:38 |
| knome | with ndiswrapper... yes a bit. | 10:39 |
| MaxFrames | I'll try later, hopefully the list page will be made available again | 10:40 |
| MaxFrames | any chance of this adapter being supported in ubuntu 8? | 10:41 |
| MaxFrames | I mean without ndiswrapper | 10:42 |
| knome | i have no idea | 10:44 |
| MaxFrames | just for curiosity... why doesnt canonical develop drivers as well? | 10:47 |
| knome | lack of people and funding | 10:47 |
| knome | it's not free to pull out a driver | 10:47 |
| MaxFrames | I'll send mark shuttleworth a check :P | 10:47 |
| knome | plus, there's really no sense to develop those drivers two times | 10:48 |
| knome | if the manufacturers would keep their specs/driver sources open, linux wouldn't have this problem | 10:48 |
| MaxFrames | there should be a law imposing it | 10:48 |
| knome | if you really want to help ubuntu, there is many ways | 10:48 |
| knome | but that doesn't of course mean that your problem is the first one solved. | 10:49 |
| knome | there is also paid support, where you *will* get your problem most probably solved | 10:49 |
| knome | but that doesn't really help others/(x)ubuntu | 10:50 |
| MaxFrames | unfortunately I can't write code | 10:50 |
| MaxFrames | even if there were sources for the drivers I wouldn't know what to do with them | 10:50 |
| MaxFrames | the only thing I can do is try to make this stick work and then post on the forum the detailed steps | 10:51 |
| knome | yes. | 10:51 |
| xxploit | any1one know how to replace the places-plugin icon? | 10:52 |
| MaxFrames | bye | 11:02 |
| === whaletales is now known as aptanet | ||
| Owe1 | what is the encryption strength in the private folder feature in ll? | 13:32 |
| nikolam | Owe1, Try #ubuntu+1 | 13:35 |
| Owe1 | found it according to the wiki its 128bit. | 13:56 |
| deoks | Im looking for a solution to install system wide truetype fonts for use with Firefox, Gimp, OpenOffice etc. Anyone who can point me to the right direction? | 14:02 |
| === Cephisus is now known as Narcissus | ||
| Owe1 | i know viruses in linux are rare. does anyone here use a antivirus and do you keep it running all the time or do you just run it when needed like to do a scan or something? | 14:33 |
| vidd | Owe1, i use rkhunter for root kit detection.... | 14:34 |
| vidd | the only system i run an anti-virus on is my mail server | 14:34 |
| vidd | my one desktop gets "out of sync" message on the monitor when the usplash should be loaded | 14:39 |
| vidd | will running dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-[version number] fix it? | 14:40 |
| Owe1 | thanks vid | 14:43 |
| zerothis | I finally got a 2nd monitor working, somewhat, using my USB2VGA. But, I have to 'yank' my cursor to change monitors. I cannot drag windows between them. grandr does not see the USB adapter. xrandr only sees the monitor I run it from and does not name the USB adapter (how do I xrandr it specifically?). xorg is manually edited. I have pastebins of everything. | 15:15 |
| oncl0ud9 | hey guys how do I remove the icons on my desktop | 15:16 |
| oncl0ud9 | like home, trash etc.. | 15:16 |
| XFCEntral | go to settings manager | 15:16 |
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| XFCEntral | then to Desktop | 15:16 |
| XFCEntral | > Behavior | 15:16 |
| XFCEntral | and uncheck the boxes of icons you do not want | 15:17 |
| oncl0ud9 | I can't select multiple things on my desktop | 15:17 |
| oncl0ud9 | highlight and delete | 15:18 |
| XFCEntral | oncl0ud9: what are you trying to select and delete? | 15:19 |
| zerothis | oncl0ud9: does any multi selectiong work? shift+arrow keys, drag with mouse shift+click control+click ? | 15:19 |
| XFCEntral | yes. shift to select mutiple objects should work | 15:20 |
| oncl0ud9 | have muitlple things on my desktop zip and mp3 files | 15:20 |
| XFCEntral | works for me on my xubuntu desktop | 15:20 |
| oncl0ud9 | want to highlight them and delete them | 15:20 |
| XFCEntral | choose one item, hold down 'Shift' and choose the last item in the range of files you'd like to delete | 15:21 |
| oncl0ud9 | yeah that works | 15:21 |
| oncl0ud9 | but I mean why doesn't highlight with mouse not work? | 15:21 |
| XFCEntral | oooh i see. you want to drag a box around the icons to select them that way? | 15:22 |
| vidd | oncl0ud9, to the best of my knowledge, that has never worked in xfce | 15:23 |
| vidd | IDK if it even works on gnome or KDE | 15:24 |
| oncl0ud9 | yeah it works with gnome and kde | 15:24 |
| zerothis | Oncl0ud9: if you click an icon it does not highlight? | 15:24 |
| oncl0ud9 | yeah a single icon does | 15:24 |
| XFCEntral | i think he means Windows-style selecting of several items by dragging a box around them | 15:24 |
| XFCEntral | Xfce wont do that | 15:24 |
| vidd | oncl0ud9, mayby in the next xfce release | 15:25 |
| oncl0ud9 | that should be there dont ya think lol | 15:25 |
| vidd | should be in JJ | 15:25 |
| tomaustin | hi. i keep reading about problems with airport cards and xubuntu, is it possible to get one running? | 15:25 |
| vidd | tomaustin, what does lspci or lsusb say your card is? | 15:26 |
| XFCEntral | oncl0ud9: Xfce hasnt even had desktop icon support for very long! haha | 15:26 |
| tomaustin | vidd.. buying a g4 from a friend. i just researching to make sure the purchase is worth it | 15:26 |
| tomaustin | so i dont know yet | 15:26 |
| tomaustin | might just buy it and hope for the best | 15:26 |
| oncl0ud9 | what really xfc lol :) | 15:26 |
| vidd | well....it all depends on what the chipset is | 15:27 |
| vidd | but it shouldnt be all that hard | 15:27 |
| oncl0ud9 | will I have to do a reinstall when 8.10 comes out? | 15:27 |
| vidd | oncl0ud9, no....you "should" get a pop-up in your systray telling you there are updates available.... | 15:28 |
| zerothis | XFCEntral:yes, just making sure I understand the issue. as it stands I'm out of ideas | 15:28 |
| vidd | and you "should" have a button to upgrade to 8.10 | 15:28 |
| vidd | tomaustin, is that g4 intel based, or PPC? | 15:29 |
| tomaustin | vidd | 15:30 |
| tomaustin | ppc | 15:30 |
| tomaustin | 1gig i think | 15:30 |
| vidd | tomaustin, i see issues in your future.... | 15:30 |
| tomaustin | does that tell you the card type? | 15:30 |
| tomaustin | :( | 15:30 |
| tomaustin | issues that can be fixed? | 15:30 |
| vidd | ppc is no longer an "officially" supported arch.... | 15:30 |
| vidd | but there is a hardy install disk and the intrepid install disk should be fixed in the near future | 15:31 |
| tomaustin | vidd, is there an intrepid port daily build | 15:31 |
| tomaustin | will that make everything work? | 15:32 |
| vidd | tomaustin, i believe there is...but last i heard, the disk was broken | 15:32 |
| tomaustin | ok | 15:32 |
| vidd | but you can easily install hardy and upgrade to intrepid | 15:32 |
| tomaustin | what about isntalling ubuntu server and adding the desktop afterwards? | 15:32 |
| tomaustin | ye. so will the card work with hardy? | 15:33 |
| vidd | tomaustin, that is the way to install PPC | 15:33 |
| vidd | the will work.... | 15:33 |
| vidd | ^card^ | 15:33 |
| vidd | it will just maY need tinkering | 15:34 |
| tomaustin | i dont mind some tinkering, just as long as its possible | 15:34 |
| tomaustin | :0 | 15:34 |
| tomaustin | :) | 15:34 |
| vidd | EVERYTHING is possible in linux.... | 15:34 |
| vidd | just a matter of what you have to do to get it to work =] | 15:34 |
| vidd | tomaustin, have you located the PPC server install disk for hardy? | 15:35 |
| zerothis | vidd:so, can I make Linux count to infinity, twice? | 15:36 |
| vidd | zerothis, if infinity was a number you could count to.... | 15:41 |
| tomaustin | vidd. no, is it hard to find? | 15:42 |
| vidd | but with the wonders of multi=threading, you can have linux count to infinity 8 or 9 times...at once! | 15:42 |
| vidd | its in the "backports" | 15:42 |
| vidd | let me get you a link | 15:43 |
| vidd | !ppc | 15:43 |
| ubottu | PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ | 15:43 |
| vidd | tomaustin, if you get the airportExtreme wifi card, look me up after you have linux installed.... | 15:45 |
| tomaustin | ok, thanks vidd | 15:45 |
| vidd | ive always had trouble getting the fwcutter app to work correctly | 15:45 |
| vidd | but i have a super-easy method | 15:45 |
| vidd | download a tarbal from my downloads page, unpack it, and sudo cp -Rf [the entire folder] /lib/firmware | 15:46 |
| vidd | works like a charm | 15:46 |
| vidd | tomaustin, here is the install disk location: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads | 15:48 |
| tomaustin | thanks | 15:48 |
| vidd | my assistance only costs you a promise to help others! =] | 15:49 |
| vidd | just kidding | 15:49 |
| SuperATP1 | anyone know why everytime i browse my linux machine from my windows machine it asks for a login?? | 17:11 |
| vinnl | What do you mean by "browse my Linux machine from my Windows machine?" (With Linux you mean Xubuntu, I presume?) | 17:12 |
| SuperATP1 | yeah | 17:12 |
| SuperATP1 | have samba installed | 17:13 |
| SuperATP1 | sorted it now | 17:35 |
| SuperATP1 | do you know why my shared folders gui would be all grey'd out?? | 17:35 |
| oncl0ud9 | guys will I have to reinstall xubuntu when 8.10 is released? | 17:41 |
| vinnl | Nope | 17:42 |
| vinnl | See xubuntu.org/get for upgrade instructions | 17:42 |
| vidd | oncl0ud9, didnt you see what i told ya last time you asked? | 17:43 |
| oncl0ud9 | I went to a meeting | 17:44 |
| oncl0ud9 | sorry :( | 17:44 |
| vidd | ah...ic | 17:45 |
| vidd | no harm...no foul | 17:45 |
| vidd | =] | 17:45 |
| oncl0ud9 | lol :) I really love xubuntu this is great | 17:47 |
| ILoveYouMan | hi | 18:08 |
| vidd | hello ILoveYouMan | 18:09 |
| ILoveYouMan | hey there | 18:10 |
| ILoveYouMan | i have a question about xubuntu.... | 18:10 |
| ILoveYouMan | I was hoping to install it on my iBook G4 with 256mb of RAM and I was doing some reading up on it...... | 18:10 |
| ILoveYouMan | some people say that it is difficult to get the airport wireless card to work with xubuntu, is this really the case? | 18:11 |
| cody-somerville | PPC isn't really supported so that may be the case if you've heard others complain. | 18:12 |
| cody-somerville | ILoveYouMan, I'd love to hear back from you on any problems you might experience. | 18:12 |
| vidd | ILoveYouMan, do you have the g4 yet? | 18:14 |
| mouser- | ILoveYouMan: They used to have a supported PPC version a few years ago, but I think it's "just" a community project now. | 18:15 |
| ILoveYouMan | sorry | 18:15 |
| ILoveYouMan | yaeh I have the G4 | 18:16 |
| ILoveYouMan | it's an old computer I don't use | 18:16 |
| vidd | ILoveYouMan, here is the install disk location: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads | 18:16 |
| ILoveYouMan | perhaps fluxbuntu would work better for me? | 18:16 |
| ILoveYouMan | thanks, vidd | 18:16 |
| vidd | i ask because i spoke with another individual less then 4 hours ago with the same concerns...wanted to see if it was a different person =] | 18:17 |
| ILoveYouMan | ahh | 18:17 |
| ILoveYouMan | i see | 18:17 |
| vidd | but he didnt have the g4 yet | 18:17 |
| ILoveYouMan | oh right | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | well, i have an iMac now so I thought that it would be cool to try something different | 18:18 |
| vidd | ILoveYouMan, so you get xubuntu installed and ill help ya get the card to work | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | plus, if it doesn't work, I can always install Mac OS X back on the iBOok again | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | OK, Vidd, | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | thanks | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | I plan to do this over the weekend | 18:18 |
| ILoveYouMan | so I'll download and see what happens | 18:18 |
| vidd | then your in luck.... | 18:19 |
| ILoveYouMan | should i get the latest version? | 18:19 |
| vidd | i work weekends, and im here while i work | 18:19 |
| ILoveYouMan | coool | 18:19 |
| vidd | get the "hardy" version | 18:19 |
| ILoveYouMan | ok, will do.....should I get the live cd version? | 18:20 |
| ILoveYouMan | desktop CD rather | 18:20 |
| ILoveYouMan | i'm just looking here, I wouldn't have enough RAM to install the hardy herron - it says you need at least 384mb RAM and my iBook only has 256 | 18:21 |
| vidd | ILoveYouMan, there is only the server install.... | 18:22 |
| vidd | you will have to "sudo apt-get install [flavor]-desktop | 18:22 |
| vidd | where [flovor] is ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, or xubuntu | 18:23 |
| ILoveYouMan | ok | 18:24 |
| ILoveYouMan | well i will do this and let you know how I get on | 18:25 |
| ILoveYouMan | thanks :D | 18:25 |
| ILoveYouMan | seeyas later perhaps | 18:25 |
| bytor4232 | I'm running cairo dock under xubuntu intrepid, and there is no option or configuration to change it to the 3d angled look. | 19:00 |
| g_ | hello, how can I browse the samba shares on my network with xfce? | 19:32 |
| rob__ | hi I am having a strange problem with the keyboard on a thinkpad t30 | 19:34 |
| rob__ | some keys are sending odd characters.. like the apostrophe for example | 19:35 |
| rob__ | ยดยด | 19:35 |
| rob__ | I had this problem once before but cant remember how I resolved it and googling is not helping :/ can anybody point me in the right direction? | 19:35 |
| kthakore | how can I edit the folder that the PIctures Folder screensaver gets the images from? | 19:39 |
| rob__ | fiddling in dpkg-reconfigure seems to have '"' resolved my problem :) thanks. | 19:43 |
| kthakore | how can I edit the system menu entry in my main menu? | 19:45 |
| kthakore | like in development and so far | 19:45 |
| kthakore | so one* | 19:46 |
| Diego_A | hola | 19:46 |
| Diego_A | hello | 19:46 |
| === danopia__ is now known as danopia | ||
| ceva_ | Where off Xubuntu 8.10? | 20:09 |
| knome | ?! | 20:09 |
| ceva_ | How download Xubuntu 8.10 | 20:10 |
| knome | ceva_, it's not out yet. | 20:10 |
| ceva_ | Ok | 20:11 |
| Owe1 | its going to be released on the 30 of this month. | 20:12 |
| Owe1 | is it safe to delete the contents of /var/cache? | 20:56 |
| Odd-rationale | Owe1: some... | 20:56 |
| Odd-rationale | `sudo apt-get clean` might help too... | 20:56 |
| Owe1 | thanks odd-rationale that freed up 1.3gb on my AA1. | 20:59 |
| yotux | I have just installed xubuntu coming from ubuntu what files to do need to delete to allow my other users to login | 21:01 |
| yotux | files are locked in the home directory | 21:01 |
| zoredache | eh? why would you need to delete something? | 21:01 |
| yotux | I think that xubuntu uses some of the same config files that ubuntu uses in the home dir | 21:02 |
| zoredache | yes, but that shouldn't prevent people from logging in | 21:02 |
| yotux | .dmrc locked will not allow them to log in | 21:02 |
| yotux | term they can log in no X sessions | 21:03 |
| zoredache | do they own all the files in their directories? | 21:03 |
| yotux | they should | 21:04 |
| yotux | I have a home directory that I use when I upgrade to the next ubuntu version | 21:04 |
| yotux | I have / @ /sda1 /home @ /sda2 | 21:04 |
| yotux | so is there a possible ownership problem? | 21:05 |
| favro | what does ls -l /home return? | 21:06 |
| yotux | one sec | 21:06 |
| yotux | favro - results http://paste.ubuntu.com/63761/ | 21:08 |
| zoredache | the problem is that your users don't own their own files | 21:09 |
| yotux | if I understand right yotux owns all of these | 21:09 |
| yotux | where can i find out how to correct this permission problem | 21:09 |
| zoredache | the command 'chown -R nathan:nathan /home/nathan' should fix nathan's directory | 21:10 |
| yotux | ok | 21:10 |
| yotux | chown - what does that mean | 21:11 |
| zoredache | change ownership | 21:11 |
| yotux | thankz sorry just starting to use CLI | 21:11 |
| favro | no need to be sorry - we were all new once :) | 21:11 |
| yotux | I have come to like CLI more that GUI tools | 21:12 |
| zoredache | just to satisfy my personal curiosity why did you make /home a seperate partition? | 21:12 |
| yotux | I have an external drive that I copy all of my files in home to every 7 days | 21:13 |
| yotux | Also this way I can delete the root system and install a new version without bothering my /home files | 21:14 |
| yotux | Right now I am running Xubuntu 8.10 | 21:14 |
| yotux | if it is a bad idea please advise | 21:15 |
| favro | I think a separate /home partition is one of the smartest things to do | 21:16 |
| Odd-rationale | i have a separte /home partiton as well | 21:16 |
| zoredache | I can understand that reinstalling without having to break /home is a good thing. My experience is that 95% of the people that do this have no backup whatsoever. And think that having a seperate /home is a good backup strategy | 21:16 |
| Odd-rationale | and i have a backup | 21:16 |
| favro | I do it so I don't have to set firefox etc up every 6 months | 21:17 |
| yotux | zoredache: nice point, also my first install was with a friend that used slackware | 21:17 |
| yotux | favro: I take it you do a clean install after the new release? | 21:17 |
| zoredache | it sounds like you do have a backup system, so in your case it isn't as bad as I have seen from others. Of course the problem with the reinstall thing is that unless you play close attention userids will changes, and so ownership and permissions get screwed up | 21:18 |
| favro | mostly yes | 21:18 |
| yotux | zoredache: this is something that I need to learn more about | 21:19 |
| dcolish | the best justifications for having /home or any partition on a separate volume are for resizing and performance. backup is just wrong. also if you're not using lvm the whole point is moot | 21:19 |
| Odd-rationale | after a reinstall, i chown my ~ | 21:19 |
| zoredache | favro, Odd-rationale: Since you like having a sperate /home, how do you decide how much disk space to allocate to /home? Where do you put shared media at into your filesystem? FHS seems to suggest that belongs in /srv | 21:26 |
| Odd-rationale | i got a 40gb drive. 10 /, 29 /home, 1 swap | 21:27 |
| favro | zoredache: I use 5G for the system - set a swap and the rest is for /home | 21:27 |
| favro | and shared media goes on the nfs server here | 21:27 |
| Odd-rationale | i would say, if you have les the 20 gb, you should not use a separate /home... | 21:28 |
| zoredache | what, but what if this IS the nfs server... and I have 1.5tb | 21:28 |
| yotux | I have a XFS partition on /media/myth 250GB | 21:28 |
| yotux | being new to linux and trying to be a more than a normal user where can I learn more about commands | 21:30 |
| dcolish | i'm curious are you all partitioning your drives or using logical volumes? | 21:31 |
| favro | my /home on my server is basically just for the configs so I set it as 2G just to have elbow room - it is 96% free | 21:31 |
| yotux | dcolish I don't know anything aobut lvm I use logic | 21:31 |
| Odd-rationale | i have / in a primary partition. /home and swap in a logical (extended) partition. | 21:32 |
| yotux | favro I use wine so my home is large | 21:32 |
| zoredache | See, whenever I create lots of partitions I find that I need to change things. So I have just given up, and use one big partition. But I also have a dirvish setup to make backups every 12 hours | 21:33 |
| yotux | dcolish what do you gain from lvm? | 21:33 |
| dcolish | yotux: lvm is logical volume manager | 21:33 |
| favro | there's no need for wine on a server tho | 21:33 |
| yotux | true | 21:33 |
| dcolish | you can move , resize, etc any logical volume | 21:33 |
| yotux | sound really nice | 21:33 |
| zoredache | yotux: encryption, easy ability to change partitions sizes, some neat jbod style features | 21:33 |
| dcolish | you can span physical disks as well | 21:33 |
| favro | but if one disk dies the whole system is gone | 21:33 |
| yotux | sound like keep a good backup | 21:34 |
| dcolish | favro: assuming you have a lvm that is backed up that should be any more risky than normal one phys vol | 21:34 |
| dcolish | also you can layer lvm on top of raid | 21:34 |
| favro | yep | 21:34 |
| dcolish | but raid is not a backup plan, its just redundancy | 21:35 |
| yotux | I have heard that | 21:35 |
| favro | but with 4 disks the chance of failure is 4 times that of one disk | 21:35 |
| yotux | I use to hd's | 21:35 |
| zoredache | but the chance of a user error where the type rm -rf remains constant | 21:36 |
| yotux | thankz for you help every one time to go meet the in-laws | 21:37 |
| masque7 | what are the advantages of xfce over gnome anyway? | 21:40 |
| Odd-rationale | lighter on the resources... | 21:41 |
| cyzie | is there a way to switch from xubuntu to server edition and if so, how ? | 21:43 |
| nikolam | masque7, I like xfce over gnome, because of xfce`s ability to make it look like I want. | 21:44 |
| nikolam | masque7, I can still use gnome panel addons if i want with xfapplet | 21:45 |
| nikolam | cyzie, I think that is related to the repository you use | 21:46 |
| zoredache | cyzie: mostly you just remove all the stuff you don't need | 21:46 |
| cyzie | nikolam, zoredache ... hmm, okay that might sound like a lot of works but i was thinking maybe there is a package to install that will do the change. | 21:47 |
| nikolam | cyzie, that is it. you just add another repository also i think zou can change kernel you use by installing another kernel package and boot with it. | 21:48 |
| nikolam | Also you can load server cd/dvd and add its packages and do the same. | 21:49 |
| cyzie | ok | 21:50 |
| Ldeath45 | hello | 21:59 |
| favro | !hi | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 22:00 |
| Ldeath45 | I am trying to get flash | 22:00 |
| Ldeath45 | and i got flash.tar.gz | 22:00 |
| favro | !flash | 22:00 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 22:00 |
| Ldeath45 | and tried to download, did the terminal, said installation complete | 22:00 |
| Ldeath45 | and didn't work | 22:00 |
| favro | did you close/reopen firefox? | 22:01 |
| Ldeath45 | yes | 22:01 |
| Ldeath45 | i re installed xubuntu just to make sure somethin didn't happen and still won't work | 22:02 |
| favro | I did that ages ago and forget how - try reading here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash | 22:04 |
| favro | unless someone else knows... | 22:04 |
| Odd-rationale | usually, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" does the trick | 22:05 |
| Ldeath45 | so type that in my terminal and it should download flash | 22:06 |
| Odd-rationale | Ldeath45: 32bit? or 64? | 22:06 |
| Ldeath45 | how can i tell | 22:06 |
| Odd-rationale | arch | 22:07 |
| Ldeath45 | so how do i tell | 22:08 |
| Odd-rationale | Ldeath45: you type "arch" in terminal | 22:08 |
| Ldeath45 | kk | 22:08 |
| Odd-rationale | if you got i386, then it is 32bit | 22:09 |
| Ldeath45 | alright | 22:10 |
| Ldeath45 | i tried and said bash:arch:command not found | 22:11 |
| favro | try uname -a | 22:12 |
| Ldeath45 | i686 | 22:17 |
| favro | I use 32bit and mine is i686 as well | 22:18 |
| Ldeath45 | ah | 22:19 |
| favro | don't know if that counts for anything... | 22:19 |
| Ldeath45 | ah | 22:19 |
| Ldeath45 | well i have had xubuntu before and was able to use flash | 22:19 |
| R[a]ndom | uname -a should cut it | 22:19 |
| Ldeath45 | then i got rid of it since i got windows xp to run, now im back here | 22:19 |
| R[a]ndom | random@computasaurus:~$ uname -a | 22:19 |
| R[a]ndom | Linux computasaurus 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 16:57:51 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 22:19 |
| favro | unless you wanted 64bit it would be hard to install it accidentally - I would hope | 22:20 |
| favro | so i686 is 32bit and x86_64 is 64bit - thnx | 22:21 |
| Ldeath45 | ah, i used wubi downloader if that counts for anything | 22:22 |
| favro | I've never used wubi but I beleive it shouldn't matter | 22:23 |
| Ldeath45 | alright | 22:23 |
| Ldeath45 | oh | 22:24 |
| Ldeath45 | since im here | 22:24 |
| Ldeath45 | how do i increase my screen resolution to 1024x740 | 22:24 |
| Ldeath45 | sorry to change the subject | 22:25 |
| favro | 1024x740 seems an odd size | 22:25 |
| Ldeath45 | something along that screen size | 22:25 |
| Ldeath45 | i just hate having the screen up close | 22:26 |
| favro | xrandr in a terminal will tell the available sizes - then xrandr -s 1024x768 or whatever size to set it | 22:26 |
| Ldeath45 | the max size is 800x600 | 22:31 |
| Ldeath45 | owell i will live | 22:32 |
| favro | you need to set the vid card driver up then Ldeath45 | 22:37 |
| Ldeath45 | which would be how(im like a newb with xubuntu) | 22:40 |
| masque7 | !flash | 22:42 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 22:42 |
| favro | in terminal lspci | grep VGA to find out the card | 22:42 |
| Ldeath45 | okay | 22:43 |
| Ldeath45 | i will do that in a little, computer is freezing | 22:43 |
| favro | k | 22:44 |
| Ldeath45 | xubuntu and my computer don't agree, then again my comp was built with like okay parts from 2000 | 22:45 |
| Ldeath45 | like not great but not bottom of the line | 22:45 |
| Ldeath45 | sorry computer froze | 22:58 |
| Ldeath45 | what do i type | 23:02 |
| favro | in terminal lspci | grep VGA to find out the card | 23:02 |
| Ldeath45 | ty | 23:02 |
| favro | np | 23:02 |
| Ldeath45 | grr won't let me copy paste | 23:04 |
| favro | highlight in terminal by dragging the mouse and in irc middle click to paste | 23:05 |
| Ldeath45 | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corportaion NV17 [GeForce 4 MX 420] (rev a3) | 23:05 |
| Ldeath45 | i know it wouldn't let me paste | 23:05 |
| favro | iirc that card needs the nvidia-glx-legacy driver - but don't quote me on that | 23:06 |
| Ldeath45 | alright | 23:07 |
| Ldeath45 | like i said this has decent parts from like 2000-2005 | 23:07 |
| Ldeath45 | there is one thing im happy about though with this computer | 23:07 |
| Ldeath45 | is it's not running windows ME | 23:07 |
| favro | you have tried the restricted drivers manager from the menu? | 23:07 |
| * Ldeath45 shivers | 23:07 | |
| Ldeath45 | don't think so | 23:08 |
| favro | that would be my first go | 23:08 |
| Ldeath45 | im just repeating what i did last time i had xubuntu | 23:08 |
| Ldeath45 | so how do i do the restricted drivers manager? | 23:10 |
| favro | I never use it - open it from the menu would be a start - it is pretty straightforward | 23:13 |
| Ldeath45 | think i found it | 23:17 |
| Ldeath45 | so thats why the matrix screen saver won't work | 23:17 |
| favro | it pays to set the vid card up for anything eyecanyish | 23:19 |
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| nonie | hello guys | 23:36 |
| favro | hello nonie :) | 23:37 |
| nonie | remember the problem with my xubuntu not playing dvd movie | 23:37 |
| nonie | it was caused when i upgraded online from 7.10 to 8.04 | 23:38 |
| nonie | i found it when i tried a full install in my office and try playing dvds | 23:38 |
| nonie | it worked. | 23:38 |
| nonie | it seems for whatever reason there's still a bug doing upgrades online. | 23:39 |
| favro | it might have missed a package - it can happen sometimes if the server is busy | 23:40 |
| nonie | i guess but never bothered to troubleshoot it | 23:41 |
| favro | sometimes I have to have three goes to get all my installs happening | 23:42 |
| nonie | i still have my pc at home do i have to go to synaptics again and mark all upgrades | 23:43 |
| nonie | or do i have to go directly to root and do the upgrade? | 23:44 |
| nonie | like apt-get dist-upgrade? | 23:44 |
| favro | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade is how I get the updates | 23:45 |
| nonie | i'd like to experiment if the problem with dvd will go away. | 23:45 |
| favro | the update bit is important | 23:46 |
| nonie | kewl. | 23:47 |
| nonie | ill do that when i get home | 23:47 |
| favro | luck :) | 23:47 |
| nonie | tnx. | 23:48 |
| nonie | how about upgrading it to super duper 8.10 .lol??? | 23:48 |
| nonie | just kidding. | 23:48 |
| favro | 8.10 comes out tomorrow... | 23:49 |
| nonie | lets rock and roll.... | 23:49 |
| nonie | its the final?? | 23:50 |
| favro | yep - and the servers will be hammered so update before then is my recommendation | 23:51 |
| nonie | its server crash time.... | 23:51 |
| favro | they do get a flogging every 6 months :) | 23:53 |
| nonie | ill just stick around for 8.04 for the meantime, havent explored much of the features | 23:54 |
| nonie | not much of the new features on the 8.10 is it? | 23:55 |
| favro | I haven't looked at it yet - #ubuntu+1 will know :) | 23:56 |
| nonie | nice. | 23:57 |
| nonie | xubuntu is fast on slower pcs. I only have a Pentium 3 128M | 23:59 |
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