[00:29] does xubuntu include a vnc server ? [00:59] I installed vino - I ran vino-preferences and set "allow others to connect to your desktop" and yet port 5900 is still closed (according to nmap) [02:03] Hi, I've somehow lost the System button on my Xubuntu Intrepid Ibex? [02:03] How do I get it back? [02:05] jeward: as in Applications -> System? [02:06] Oh, before I updated, it had a System button on the top bar? [02:06] Did that feature go away? [02:06] jeward: for shutdown, restart, and so on? [02:06] upgrade from Gnome? [02:07] Xubuntu only uses Applications and Places [02:07] No, I installed Xubuntu from the start. [02:07] Okay, maybe I dreamt it. [02:07] :-) [02:07] np [02:08] Thanks! [02:46] * cody-somerville blinks slowly at j1mc. [03:08] cody-somerville: hai! [03:37] hello, my xubuntu doesnt play audio cds :( [03:37] any help please? [03:39] totem gives an error "** (totem:16618): WARNING **: Failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name [03:39] " [03:40] I searched google for this error and found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-767958.html [03:43] famicommander says " I would try installing ubuntu-desktop" but if I do this I loose wicd and it will install lots of stuff I dont need (like compiz) mabie there is another way? [03:47] I also found this "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/275882" looks the same but I have xubuntu hardy, not intrepid [03:58] ok, seems like audacious can play them, thanks for your silent help ;) [04:09] good evening [04:10] anybody could give me hint on how to set keyboard layouts in xubuntu 8.10 ? [04:10] i tryed dpkg-reconfigure console-setup didn't help [04:11] also created /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-keyboard.fdi didn't work either [04:11] anybody alive here? [07:35] what command could I use to change the name of all files in a folder so "%20" becomes " " ? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [08:10] Bonjour, Hello [08:10] !hi [08:10] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [08:10] Is there some french channel to ask some questions ? [08:11] !fr [08:11] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr [08:11] I don't speak english very well ;) Thanks !! [08:11] np :) [08:11] have a good day [08:12] u 2 === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [09:51] hello [09:51] I need some help in trying to make an USB wifi stick to work under Xubuntu 6.04 [09:52] for now, I've installed ndiswrapper, but if I issue "lspci" the adapter is not listed, and anyway the "power" led is not lit, which would mean that the adapter is not even powered on [09:52] what now? [10:08] MaxFrames, what is that stick? model/brand? [10:22] knome: it's an atlantis land a02-up-w108 [10:23] MaxFrames, there is a thread which i think could help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654826 [10:29] MaxFrames, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-4b7c00c6654b2d109b9330c28d9210db329ba573 [10:30] the problem is that the card is not listed in lspci [10:31] you might try lsubs if it's a usb stick [10:31] *lsusb [10:31] lsusb lists two devices [10:31] one is "global sun technology inc" [10:31] the other one is nameless [10:32] perhaps the former is the w108? [10:32] possible [10:32] you can always try [10:33] oh, another problem [10:34] the page with the ndiswrapper compatible adapters gives "500 internal server error" :( [10:34] ? [10:35] yours is listed? [10:36] the list is here [10:36] http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/46385/ [10:36] this page gives error 500 [10:36] sorry wrong link [10:36] http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/ [10:36] this is the right link [10:37] apparently the sourceforge server has problems [10:38] all in all, installing a driver in linux is a major hassle :( [10:39] with ndiswrapper... yes a bit. [10:40] I'll try later, hopefully the list page will be made available again [10:41] any chance of this adapter being supported in ubuntu 8? [10:42] I mean without ndiswrapper [10:44] i have no idea [10:47] just for curiosity... why doesnt canonical develop drivers as well? [10:47] lack of people and funding [10:47] it's not free to pull out a driver [10:47] I'll send mark shuttleworth a check :P [10:48] plus, there's really no sense to develop those drivers two times [10:48] if the manufacturers would keep their specs/driver sources open, linux wouldn't have this problem [10:48] there should be a law imposing it [10:48] if you really want to help ubuntu, there is many ways [10:49] but that doesn't of course mean that your problem is the first one solved. [10:49] there is also paid support, where you *will* get your problem most probably solved [10:50] but that doesn't really help others/(x)ubuntu [10:50] unfortunately I can't write code [10:50] even if there were sources for the drivers I wouldn't know what to do with them [10:51] the only thing I can do is try to make this stick work and then post on the forum the detailed steps [10:51] yes. [10:52] any1one know how to replace the places-plugin icon? [11:02] bye === whaletales is now known as aptanet [13:32] what is the encryption strength in the private folder feature in ll? [13:35] Owe1, Try #ubuntu+1 [13:56] found it according to the wiki its 128bit. [14:02] Im looking for a solution to install system wide truetype fonts for use with Firefox, Gimp, OpenOffice etc. Anyone who can point me to the right direction? === Cephisus is now known as Narcissus [14:33] i know viruses in linux are rare. does anyone here use a antivirus and do you keep it running all the time or do you just run it when needed like to do a scan or something? [14:34] Owe1, i use rkhunter for root kit detection.... [14:34] the only system i run an anti-virus on is my mail server [14:39] my one desktop gets "out of sync" message on the monitor when the usplash should be loaded [14:40] will running dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-[version number] fix it? [14:43] thanks vid [15:15] I finally got a 2nd monitor working, somewhat, using my USB2VGA. But, I have to 'yank' my cursor to change monitors. I cannot drag windows between them. grandr does not see the USB adapter. xrandr only sees the monitor I run it from and does not name the USB adapter (how do I xrandr it specifically?). xorg is manually edited. I have pastebins of everything. [15:16] hey guys how do I remove the icons on my desktop [15:16] like home, trash etc.. [15:16] go to settings manager === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [15:16] then to Desktop [15:16] > Behavior [15:17] and uncheck the boxes of icons you do not want [15:17] I can't select multiple things on my desktop [15:18] highlight and delete [15:19] oncl0ud9: what are you trying to select and delete? [15:19] oncl0ud9: does any multi selectiong work? shift+arrow keys, drag with mouse shift+click control+click ? [15:20] yes. shift to select mutiple objects should work [15:20] have muitlple things on my desktop zip and mp3 files [15:20] works for me on my xubuntu desktop [15:20] want to highlight them and delete them [15:21] choose one item, hold down 'Shift' and choose the last item in the range of files you'd like to delete [15:21] yeah that works [15:21] but I mean why doesn't highlight with mouse not work? [15:22] oooh i see. you want to drag a box around the icons to select them that way? [15:23] oncl0ud9, to the best of my knowledge, that has never worked in xfce [15:24] IDK if it even works on gnome or KDE [15:24] yeah it works with gnome and kde [15:24] Oncl0ud9: if you click an icon it does not highlight? [15:24] yeah a single icon does [15:24] i think he means Windows-style selecting of several items by dragging a box around them [15:24] Xfce wont do that [15:25] oncl0ud9, mayby in the next xfce release [15:25] that should be there dont ya think lol [15:25] should be in JJ [15:25] hi. i keep reading about problems with airport cards and xubuntu, is it possible to get one running? [15:26] tomaustin, what does lspci or lsusb say your card is? [15:26] oncl0ud9: Xfce hasnt even had desktop icon support for very long! haha [15:26] vidd.. buying a g4 from a friend. i just researching to make sure the purchase is worth it [15:26] so i dont know yet [15:26] might just buy it and hope for the best [15:26] what really xfc lol :) [15:27] well....it all depends on what the chipset is [15:27] but it shouldnt be all that hard [15:27] will I have to do a reinstall when 8.10 comes out? [15:28] oncl0ud9, no....you "should" get a pop-up in your systray telling you there are updates available.... [15:28] XFCEntral:yes, just making sure I understand the issue. as it stands I'm out of ideas [15:28] and you "should" have a button to upgrade to 8.10 [15:29] tomaustin, is that g4 intel based, or PPC? [15:30] vidd [15:30] ppc [15:30] 1gig i think [15:30] tomaustin, i see issues in your future.... [15:30] does that tell you the card type? [15:30] :( [15:30] issues that can be fixed? [15:30] ppc is no longer an "officially" supported arch.... [15:31] but there is a hardy install disk and the intrepid install disk should be fixed in the near future [15:31] vidd, is there an intrepid port daily build [15:32] will that make everything work? [15:32] tomaustin, i believe there is...but last i heard, the disk was broken [15:32] ok [15:32] but you can easily install hardy and upgrade to intrepid [15:32] what about isntalling ubuntu server and adding the desktop afterwards? [15:33] ye. so will the card work with hardy? [15:33] tomaustin, that is the way to install PPC [15:33] the will work.... [15:33] ^card^ [15:34] it will just maY need tinkering [15:34] i dont mind some tinkering, just as long as its possible [15:34] :0 [15:34] :) [15:34] EVERYTHING is possible in linux.... [15:34] just a matter of what you have to do to get it to work =] [15:35] tomaustin, have you located the PPC server install disk for hardy? [15:36] vidd:so, can I make Linux count to infinity, twice? [15:41] zerothis, if infinity was a number you could count to.... [15:42] vidd. no, is it hard to find? [15:42] but with the wonders of multi=threading, you can have linux count to infinity 8 or 9 times...at once! [15:42] its in the "backports" [15:43] let me get you a link [15:43] !ppc [15:43] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [15:45] tomaustin, if you get the airportExtreme wifi card, look me up after you have linux installed.... [15:45] ok, thanks vidd [15:45] ive always had trouble getting the fwcutter app to work correctly [15:45] but i have a super-easy method [15:46] download a tarbal from my downloads page, unpack it, and sudo cp -Rf [the entire folder] /lib/firmware [15:46] works like a charm [15:48] tomaustin, here is the install disk location: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads [15:48] thanks [15:49] my assistance only costs you a promise to help others! =] [15:49] just kidding [17:11] anyone know why everytime i browse my linux machine from my windows machine it asks for a login?? [17:12] What do you mean by "browse my Linux machine from my Windows machine?" (With Linux you mean Xubuntu, I presume?) [17:12] yeah [17:13] have samba installed [17:35] sorted it now [17:35] do you know why my shared folders gui would be all grey'd out?? [17:41] guys will I have to reinstall xubuntu when 8.10 is released? [17:42] Nope [17:42] See xubuntu.org/get for upgrade instructions [17:43] oncl0ud9, didnt you see what i told ya last time you asked? [17:44] I went to a meeting [17:44] sorry :( [17:45] ah...ic [17:45] no harm...no foul [17:45] =] [17:47] lol :) I really love xubuntu this is great [18:08] hi [18:09] hello ILoveYouMan [18:10] hey there [18:10] i have a question about xubuntu.... [18:10] I was hoping to install it on my iBook G4 with 256mb of RAM and I was doing some reading up on it...... [18:11] some people say that it is difficult to get the airport wireless card to work with xubuntu, is this really the case? [18:12] PPC isn't really supported so that may be the case if you've heard others complain. [18:12] ILoveYouMan, I'd love to hear back from you on any problems you might experience. [18:14] ILoveYouMan, do you have the g4 yet? [18:15] ILoveYouMan: They used to have a supported PPC version a few years ago, but I think it's "just" a community project now. [18:15] sorry [18:16] yaeh I have the G4 [18:16] it's an old computer I don't use [18:16] ILoveYouMan, here is the install disk location: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads [18:16] perhaps fluxbuntu would work better for me? [18:16] thanks, vidd [18:17] i ask because i spoke with another individual less then 4 hours ago with the same concerns...wanted to see if it was a different person =] [18:17] ahh [18:17] i see [18:17] but he didnt have the g4 yet [18:18] oh right [18:18] well, i have an iMac now so I thought that it would be cool to try something different [18:18] ILoveYouMan, so you get xubuntu installed and ill help ya get the card to work [18:18] plus, if it doesn't work, I can always install Mac OS X back on the iBOok again [18:18] OK, Vidd, [18:18] thanks [18:18] I plan to do this over the weekend [18:18] so I'll download and see what happens [18:19] then your in luck.... [18:19] should i get the latest version? [18:19] i work weekends, and im here while i work [18:19] coool [18:19] get the "hardy" version [18:20] ok, will do.....should I get the live cd version? [18:20] desktop CD rather [18:21] i'm just looking here, I wouldn't have enough RAM to install the hardy herron - it says you need at least 384mb RAM and my iBook only has 256 [18:22] ILoveYouMan, there is only the server install.... [18:22] you will have to "sudo apt-get install [flavor]-desktop [18:23] where [flovor] is ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, or xubuntu [18:24] ok [18:25] well i will do this and let you know how I get on [18:25] thanks :D [18:25] seeyas later perhaps [19:00] I'm running cairo dock under xubuntu intrepid, and there is no option or configuration to change it to the 3d angled look. [19:32] hello, how can I browse the samba shares on my network with xfce? [19:34] hi I am having a strange problem with the keyboard on a thinkpad t30 [19:35] some keys are sending odd characters.. like the apostrophe for example [19:35] ´´ [19:35] I had this problem once before but cant remember how I resolved it and googling is not helping :/ can anybody point me in the right direction? [19:39] how can I edit the folder that the PIctures Folder screensaver gets the images from? [19:43] fiddling in dpkg-reconfigure seems to have '"' resolved my problem :) thanks. [19:45] how can I edit the system menu entry in my main menu? [19:45] like in development and so far [19:46] so one* [19:46] hola [19:46] hello === danopia__ is now known as danopia [20:09] Where off Xubuntu 8.10? [20:09] ?! [20:10] How download Xubuntu 8.10 [20:10] ceva_, it's not out yet. [20:11] Ok [20:12] its going to be released on the 30 of this month. [20:56] is it safe to delete the contents of /var/cache? [20:56] Owe1: some... [20:56] `sudo apt-get clean` might help too... [20:59] thanks odd-rationale that freed up 1.3gb on my AA1. [21:01] I have just installed xubuntu coming from ubuntu what files to do need to delete to allow my other users to login [21:01] files are locked in the home directory [21:01] eh? why would you need to delete something? [21:02] I think that xubuntu uses some of the same config files that ubuntu uses in the home dir [21:02] yes, but that shouldn't prevent people from logging in [21:02] .dmrc locked will not allow them to log in [21:03] term they can log in no X sessions [21:03] do they own all the files in their directories? [21:04] they should [21:04] I have a home directory that I use when I upgrade to the next ubuntu version [21:04] I have / @ /sda1 /home @ /sda2 [21:05] so is there a possible ownership problem? [21:06] what does ls -l /home return? [21:06] one sec [21:08] favro - results http://paste.ubuntu.com/63761/ [21:09] the problem is that your users don't own their own files [21:09] if I understand right yotux owns all of these [21:09] where can i find out how to correct this permission problem [21:10] the command 'chown -R nathan:nathan /home/nathan' should fix nathan's directory [21:10] ok [21:11] chown - what does that mean [21:11] change ownership [21:11] thankz sorry just starting to use CLI [21:11] no need to be sorry - we were all new once :) [21:12] I have come to like CLI more that GUI tools [21:12] just to satisfy my personal curiosity why did you make /home a seperate partition? [21:13] I have an external drive that I copy all of my files in home to every 7 days [21:14] Also this way I can delete the root system and install a new version without bothering my /home files [21:14] Right now I am running Xubuntu 8.10 [21:15] if it is a bad idea please advise [21:16] I think a separate /home partition is one of the smartest things to do [21:16] i have a separte /home partiton as well [21:16] I can understand that reinstalling without having to break /home is a good thing. My experience is that 95% of the people that do this have no backup whatsoever. And think that having a seperate /home is a good backup strategy [21:16] and i have a backup [21:17] I do it so I don't have to set firefox etc up every 6 months [21:17] zoredache: nice point, also my first install was with a friend that used slackware [21:17] favro: I take it you do a clean install after the new release? [21:18] it sounds like you do have a backup system, so in your case it isn't as bad as I have seen from others. Of course the problem with the reinstall thing is that unless you play close attention userids will changes, and so ownership and permissions get screwed up [21:18] mostly yes [21:19] zoredache: this is something that I need to learn more about [21:19] the best justifications for having /home or any partition on a separate volume are for resizing and performance. backup is just wrong. also if you're not using lvm the whole point is moot [21:19] after a reinstall, i chown my ~ [21:26] favro, Odd-rationale: Since you like having a sperate /home, how do you decide how much disk space to allocate to /home? Where do you put shared media at into your filesystem? FHS seems to suggest that belongs in /srv [21:27] i got a 40gb drive. 10 /, 29 /home, 1 swap [21:27] zoredache: I use 5G for the system - set a swap and the rest is for /home [21:27] and shared media goes on the nfs server here [21:28] i would say, if you have les the 20 gb, you should not use a separate /home... [21:28] what, but what if this IS the nfs server... and I have 1.5tb [21:28] I have a XFS partition on /media/myth 250GB [21:30] being new to linux and trying to be a more than a normal user where can I learn more about commands [21:31] i'm curious are you all partitioning your drives or using logical volumes? [21:31] my /home on my server is basically just for the configs so I set it as 2G just to have elbow room - it is 96% free [21:31] dcolish I don't know anything aobut lvm I use logic [21:32] i have / in a primary partition. /home and swap in a logical (extended) partition. [21:32] favro I use wine so my home is large [21:33] See, whenever I create lots of partitions I find that I need to change things. So I have just given up, and use one big partition. But I also have a dirvish setup to make backups every 12 hours [21:33] dcolish what do you gain from lvm? [21:33] yotux: lvm is logical volume manager [21:33] there's no need for wine on a server tho [21:33] true [21:33] you can move , resize, etc any logical volume [21:33] sound really nice [21:33] yotux: encryption, easy ability to change partitions sizes, some neat jbod style features [21:33] you can span physical disks as well [21:33] but if one disk dies the whole system is gone [21:34] sound like keep a good backup [21:34] favro: assuming you have a lvm that is backed up that should be any more risky than normal one phys vol [21:34] also you can layer lvm on top of raid [21:34] yep [21:35] but raid is not a backup plan, its just redundancy [21:35] I have heard that [21:35] but with 4 disks the chance of failure is 4 times that of one disk [21:35] I use to hd's [21:36] but the chance of a user error where the type rm -rf remains constant [21:37] thankz for you help every one time to go meet the in-laws [21:40] what are the advantages of xfce over gnome anyway? [21:41] lighter on the resources... [21:43] is there a way to switch from xubuntu to server edition and if so, how ? [21:44] masque7, I like xfce over gnome, because of xfce`s ability to make it look like I want. [21:45] masque7, I can still use gnome panel addons if i want with xfapplet [21:46] cyzie, I think that is related to the repository you use [21:46] cyzie: mostly you just remove all the stuff you don't need [21:47] nikolam, zoredache ... hmm, okay that might sound like a lot of works but i was thinking maybe there is a package to install that will do the change. [21:48] cyzie, that is it. you just add another repository also i think zou can change kernel you use by installing another kernel package and boot with it. [21:49] Also you can load server cd/dvd and add its packages and do the same. [21:50] ok [21:59] hello [22:00] !hi [22:00] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [22:00] I am trying to get flash [22:00] and i got flash.tar.gz [22:00] !flash [22:00] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [22:00] and tried to download, did the terminal, said installation complete [22:00] and didn't work [22:01] did you close/reopen firefox? [22:01] yes [22:02] i re installed xubuntu just to make sure somethin didn't happen and still won't work [22:04] I did that ages ago and forget how - try reading here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash [22:04] unless someone else knows... [22:05] usually, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" does the trick [22:06] so type that in my terminal and it should download flash [22:06] Ldeath45: 32bit? or 64? [22:06] how can i tell [22:07] arch [22:08] so how do i tell [22:08] Ldeath45: you type "arch" in terminal [22:08] kk [22:09] if you got i386, then it is 32bit [22:10] alright [22:11] i tried and said bash:arch:command not found [22:12] try uname -a [22:17] i686 [22:18] I use 32bit and mine is i686 as well [22:19] ah [22:19] don't know if that counts for anything... [22:19] ah [22:19] well i have had xubuntu before and was able to use flash [22:19] uname -a should cut it [22:19] then i got rid of it since i got windows xp to run, now im back here [22:19] random@computasaurus:~$ uname -a [22:19] Linux computasaurus 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 16:57:51 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux [22:20] unless you wanted 64bit it would be hard to install it accidentally - I would hope [22:21] so i686 is 32bit and x86_64 is 64bit - thnx [22:22] ah, i used wubi downloader if that counts for anything [22:23] I've never used wubi but I beleive it shouldn't matter [22:23] alright [22:24] oh [22:24] since im here [22:24] how do i increase my screen resolution to 1024x740 [22:25]