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sbalneavEvening all01:30
stgraberhey sbalneav01:34
sbalneavHey stgraber01:34
sbalneavSo, when we get to Maine, I'll ply you with beer, and have you teach me more about packaging.01:34
stgrabersbalneav: no problem :)01:36
stgrabersbalneav: I'll also have some LDM bugs/improvements to do :)01:36
sbalneavYeah, so will I01:36
sbalneavAnd I want to spend some time cleaning up the docs some more.01:37
stgraberyeah, there's work to do there for sure, even if at least on the Ubuntu side it recently improved a lot.01:37
stgrabersbalneav: btw, http://blog.revolutionlinux.com/en/post/2008/10/28/T-L-2008-%3A-Thin-Client-Lab-Setup01:41
stgraberI hope I'll be able to bring that server to the Hackfest but we may be a bit short to get it back from Seattle in time01:47
stgraberCoreQuad is really good to generate squashfs images :)01:49
Ahmuckwhat is italc?02:07
stgrabera classroom management tool02:08
Ahmucki'm setting up a lab similar this week02:08
Ahmuckthis very similar to what i'm doing so this interests me02:08
stgraberhttp://italc.sf.net and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/italc may be good starting points then02:08
Ahmuckgot it02:09
Ahmuckthx02:09
Ahmucksbalneav: were u doing something with "local menus".  i almost understand what your doing, but not positive02:09
Ahmucki'm looking at a linksys/cisco gigabyte smart switch, i assume will work well02:10
sbalneavAhmuck: No, I beleive that was stgraber02:15
Ahmuckah, ok02:27
Ahmuckstgraber: u were doing something with "local menus" ?02:28
stgraberyeah, I did some scripts that can generate a "local applications" menu based on what you have installed in your chroot02:28
stgraberthese are currently part of ltsp-cluster and I'll discuss including them (or at least keeping the idea) at LTSP by the sea02:29
Ahmuckbased on the install in chroot?02:29
Ahmucki'd like to try them.  individualized menus for each machine?02:29
Ahmuckor by machine type?02:29
stgraberit's by chroot, it's not depending on the machine or the machine specification but that may be something we'll want to include in that script soon though02:30
Ahmuckok, i don't understand chroot entirely, but can read up on it.  in a mixed thin/fat client environment, i would assume that your local menus can be tailored to thin or fat clients.  in particular, i'd like to remove menu items from the thin client menus such as "hugin", battle of wesnoth, etc.02:32
Ahmuck:), iTalc = italc02:33
Ahmuckthe cap T threw me02:33
Ahmucki've been searching through my notes for the other "italc" software02:33
stgraberupstream always tell me to write it iTalc, so I just do what Tobias tells me to do :)02:33
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Eeyore-Jrmeeting is tomorrow?03:38
stgraberno03:38
stgrabernext week03:39
Eeyore-Jrah, the wiki says every wednesday.  ok, i'll try to sit in next week.  i think i'm on vacation next week03:39
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pips1ogra: is RichEd around? I can help prepping the edubuntu.org site today, but not tomorrow.. :-/11:52
ograno idea where RichEd is11:53
ograi havent talked to him since he left my house over a week ago11:53
pips1darn11:54
pips1you aren't involved in the edubuntu release?11:54
pips1I mean: are you?11:54
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pips1nubae hi12:39
pips1Nubae: hi12:40
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pips1David Van Assche ? hello?12:55
* ogra guesses nubae is busy12:56
pips1right12:57
pips1today, everbody in ubuntu land is busy :-)12:57
pips1*everybody12:57
Nubaehi13:03
Nubaeam around now13:03
Nubaewhat's up?13:03
Nubaewas cooking gulasch13:03
Nubae:D13:04
pips1Nubae: hi, I'm webmaster of edubuntu.org, I noticed that you have a editor account13:15
pips1unfortunately, I won't be able to update the site tomorrow for the release and I was hoping to find someone to help out13:16
Nubaesure13:16
Nubaerun me through it quickly, and ill do it13:16
pips1we'll need to update the download page and put the release notes up too13:17
Nubaek13:17
pips1hold on.. I'm also cooking and I need to check on my food :-)13:17
pips1Nubae: are you going to be around for 30 min - 40 mins? that way, I could eat.. :-)13:19
pips1I haven't been able to get in touch with RichEd just now, he is supposed to write the release notes.. so it depends on him as well...13:20
pips1so basically, we need to update 2 pages13:22
pips1http://www.edubuntu.org/Download13:22
pips1and a new release notes, similar to http://www.edubuntu.org/news/8.04-release13:22
Nubaeyeah13:27
Nubaego eat ;-)13:27
pips1RichEd: hey!13:36
pips1I was hoping I'd find you here13:36
RichEdhi pips13:36
pips1hi13:36
pips1how is it going?13:37
pips1Nubae: might be able to help out with updating edubuntu.org tomorrow13:37
Nubaeyup sure thing, at what time?13:38
pips1normally in the morning, until around lunch time (UTC timezone)13:39
pips1i believe u r in vienna?13:40
Nubaeright13:40
pips1im in zurich13:40
Nubaeah cool, not far13:40
pips1yep13:40
pips1:-)13:40
ograyou could get away from IRC and communicate by putting messages on little paper planes :)13:41
pips1oops, now I need to take care of my son... change diapers.. it's "papa day" :-)13:41
pips1ogra: hehe13:41
Nubaeyeah or  2 cans on a long string...13:41
pips1brb13:42
* Nubae goes check on his Gulash13:42
ograNubae, well, cars and trucks hitting the string might be a bit disturbing :=13:42
Nubaeah but we have tall mountains here ;-)13:42
ograheh13:42
RichEdNubae: thanks ... i'll grab you here tomorrow if i need help okay ?13:57
RichEdpips1: does Nubae have the edit righte he needs ?13:57
pips1RichEd: he has "editor" rights, lemme double check.. not sure if he can create new pages. It always easier to work on a new page quietly and then simply redirect the url to that new page once it's ready13:59
pips1 Nubae are you familiar with Drupal? do you know how to change an aliase to a new node?14:00
pips1RichEd: I notice several new drupal user accounts on edubuntu.org - all unknown to me14:09
pips1there is 'tirion' with siteadmin rights14:10
pips1familiar?14:10
pips1is it https://launchpad.net/~tirion ?14:10
pips1his name sounds familiar to me..14:10
pips1Nubae: perhaps you know tirion ^^^ ? he opened the drupal account around the same time as you..14:11
pips1oops strike that14:11
pips1tirion got his account 27 weeks ago, you did 2 weeks ago?14:12
pips1Nubae: are you here? can I quickly talk you through it?14:17
Nubaeyep14:18
pips1great14:18
pips1I only have 20-30 mins, then I need to go14:18
pips1first of all, perhaps I can introduce you to matt nuzum, the ubuntu.com webmaster14:19
Nubaeok, sorry was preparing my servietten knödel14:19
pips1just in case you need some expert help :-)14:19
NubaeI'm here now though, just reading through what u wrote14:19
pips1ahhh nice14:19
Nubaeok I know drupal a bit, though worked much more with joomla14:19
pips1I've been wanting to come to austria for a long time now, just for the fantastic food :-)14:19
pips1ok, so let me introduce you to matt nuzum14:20
pips1join us in #ubuntu-website14:20
Nubaeok14:20
RichEdpips1: who else is allowed to create accounts ? i thought it was just you and highvolt1ge14:21
pips1RichEd: no. there are several people with siteadmin rights14:26
pips1RichEd: MatthewNuzum JordanMantha tirion <-- don't know the last person14:27
RichEdta14:33
pips1RichEd: I talked Nubae through the procedure of updating the download page and the release notes... i also introduced him to matt nuzum on #ubuntu-website14:49
pips1hope all works well tomorrow. :-)14:49
RichEdexcellent :)14:49
pips1I'll try to pop in on IRC tomorrow, as soon as i'm done with my work meetings.. but it might be late afternoon14:50
pips1See you!!14:50
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sbalneavMorning all15:37
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Ridehis there a 8.10 rc1 of edubuntu yet? or is there a pacakge i can apt-get to add edubuntu to the current rc of 8.10?19:37
sbalneavShould be able to apt-get install edubuntu-desktop19:38
ograand there should be an iso as well19:39
* ogra didnt test if or how well it works though19:39
Ridehyea i was hesitant to see if 8.04 edubuntu addon cd worked with 8.10 :D19:39
Ridehbut i guess thats what i have VMware for19:39
Ridehsbalneav: ty i didnt know what the package name was19:41
sbalneavNP19:46
mbruellHello - I'm trying to install an ltsp server using Hardy, but can't select F4 option on the install.21:25
ogrambruell, did you download the right iso ?21:27
mbruellI downloaded ubuntu 8.04.1 server iso22:10
mbruellogra - thanks for your reply  - I need to get going. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for any help you might have.22:13
ograyou need the alternate desktop iso22:14
ogranot server22:15
mbruellreally? Even if I want to use it as an ltsp *server*?22:15
ograyes22:15
ograltsp needs a desktop running on the server where you can log in to22:15
ograthe server iso doent have any desktop apps22:15
ogra*doesnt22:16
mbruellRight - I've discovered that...;-)22:16
mbruellSo, I start with the ltsp desktop client, and will be able to select F4 option for ltsp?22:16
ograhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall has a link to the iso ... though yu might probably want to try out 8.10 which will release tomorrow22:17
ograthe ltsp there has a bunch of improvements22:17
mbruellOkay - maybe I'll try that. I22:17
ograhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20081028/22:17
mbruellCool!22:17
mbruellThis is great!22:17
mbruelldo you know about long term support?22:18
ograonly for 8.0422:18
ograsince ltsp involves desktop packages, its supported for 3 yers22:18
ogra*years22:18
mbruellThat's good22:18
ogra8.10 is using the normal support cycle of 18months for everything22:18
mbruellokay - well if it works well, there would be a 9.04 release with long term support, I suppose22:19
ograno, LTS releases are only done in a two year frequency22:20
ogra10.04 would be the next LTS22:20
mbruelloh - okay.22:20
mbruellexcellent!22:21
mbruellThanks for your help.22:21
ograwelcome :)22:21
mbruellI'm downloading the daily build22:21
mbruellPeace22:21

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