[01:30] <sbalneav> Evening all
[01:34] <stgraber> hey sbalneav
[01:34] <sbalneav> Hey stgraber
[01:34] <sbalneav> So, when we get to Maine, I'll ply you with beer, and have you teach me more about packaging.
[01:36] <stgraber> sbalneav: no problem :)
[01:36] <stgraber> sbalneav: I'll also have some LDM bugs/improvements to do :)
[01:36] <sbalneav> Yeah, so will I
[01:37] <sbalneav> And I want to spend some time cleaning up the docs some more.
[01:37] <stgraber> yeah, there's work to do there for sure, even if at least on the Ubuntu side it recently improved a lot.
[01:41] <stgraber> sbalneav: btw, http://blog.revolutionlinux.com/en/post/2008/10/28/T-L-2008-%3A-Thin-Client-Lab-Setup
[01:47] <stgraber> I hope I'll be able to bring that server to the Hackfest but we may be a bit short to get it back from Seattle in time
[01:49] <stgraber> CoreQuad is really good to generate squashfs images :)
[02:07] <Ahmuck> what is italc?
[02:08] <stgraber> a classroom management tool
[02:08] <Ahmuck> i'm setting up a lab similar this week
[02:08] <Ahmuck> this very similar to what i'm doing so this interests me
[02:08] <stgraber> http://italc.sf.net and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/italc may be good starting points then
[02:09] <Ahmuck> got it
[02:09] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:09] <Ahmuck> sbalneav: were u doing something with "local menus".  i almost understand what your doing, but not positive
[02:10] <Ahmuck> i'm looking at a linksys/cisco gigabyte smart switch, i assume will work well
[02:15] <sbalneav> Ahmuck: No, I beleive that was stgraber
[02:27] <Ahmuck> ah, ok
[02:28] <Ahmuck> stgraber: u were doing something with "local menus" ?
[02:28] <stgraber> yeah, I did some scripts that can generate a "local applications" menu based on what you have installed in your chroot
[02:29] <stgraber> these are currently part of ltsp-cluster and I'll discuss including them (or at least keeping the idea) at LTSP by the sea
[02:29] <Ahmuck> based on the install in chroot?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> i'd like to try them.  individualized menus for each machine?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> or by machine type?
[02:30] <stgraber> it's by chroot, it's not depending on the machine or the machine specification but that may be something we'll want to include in that script soon though
[02:32] <Ahmuck> ok, i don't understand chroot entirely, but can read up on it.  in a mixed thin/fat client environment, i would assume that your local menus can be tailored to thin or fat clients.  in particular, i'd like to remove menu items from the thin client menus such as "hugin", battle of wesnoth, etc.
[02:33] <Ahmuck> :), iTalc = italc
[02:33] <Ahmuck> the cap T threw me
[02:33] <Ahmuck> i've been searching through my notes for the other "italc" software
[02:33] <stgraber> upstream always tell me to write it iTalc, so I just do what Tobias tells me to do :)
[03:38] <Eeyore-Jr> meeting is tomorrow?
[03:38] <stgraber> no
[03:39] <stgraber> next week
[03:39] <Eeyore-Jr> ah, the wiki says every wednesday.  ok, i'll try to sit in next week.  i think i'm on vacation next week
[11:52] <pips1> ogra: is RichEd around? I can help prepping the edubuntu.org site today, but not tomorrow.. :-/
[11:53] <ogra> no idea where RichEd is
[11:53] <ogra> i havent talked to him since he left my house over a week ago
[11:54] <pips1> darn
[11:54] <pips1> you aren't involved in the edubuntu release?
[11:54] <pips1> I mean: are you?
[12:39] <pips1> nubae hi
[12:40] <pips1> Nubae: hi
[12:55] <pips1> David Van Assche ? hello?
[12:56]  * ogra guesses nubae is busy
[12:57] <pips1> right
[12:57] <pips1> today, everbody in ubuntu land is busy :-)
[12:57] <pips1> *everybody
[13:03] <Nubae> hi
[13:03] <Nubae> am around now
[13:03] <Nubae> what's up?
[13:03] <Nubae> was cooking gulasch
[13:04] <Nubae> :D
[13:15] <pips1> Nubae: hi, I'm webmaster of edubuntu.org, I noticed that you have a editor account
[13:16] <pips1> unfortunately, I won't be able to update the site tomorrow for the release and I was hoping to find someone to help out
[13:16] <Nubae> sure
[13:16] <Nubae> run me through it quickly, and ill do it
[13:17] <pips1> we'll need to update the download page and put the release notes up too
[13:17] <Nubae> k
[13:17] <pips1> hold on.. I'm also cooking and I need to check on my food :-)
[13:19] <pips1> Nubae: are you going to be around for 30 min - 40 mins? that way, I could eat.. :-)
[13:20] <pips1> I haven't been able to get in touch with RichEd just now, he is supposed to write the release notes.. so it depends on him as well...
[13:22] <pips1> so basically, we need to update 2 pages
[13:22] <pips1> http://www.edubuntu.org/Download
[13:22] <pips1> and a new release notes, similar to http://www.edubuntu.org/news/8.04-release
[13:27] <Nubae> yeah
[13:27] <Nubae> go eat ;-)
[13:36] <pips1> RichEd: hey!
[13:36] <pips1> I was hoping I'd find you here
[13:36] <RichEd> hi pips
[13:36] <pips1> hi
[13:37] <pips1> how is it going?
[13:37] <pips1> Nubae: might be able to help out with updating edubuntu.org tomorrow
[13:38] <Nubae> yup sure thing, at what time?
[13:39] <pips1> normally in the morning, until around lunch time (UTC timezone)
[13:40] <pips1> i believe u r in vienna?
[13:40] <Nubae> right
[13:40] <pips1> im in zurich
[13:40] <Nubae> ah cool, not far
[13:40] <pips1> yep
[13:40] <pips1> :-)
[13:41] <ogra> you could get away from IRC and communicate by putting messages on little paper planes :)
[13:41] <pips1> oops, now I need to take care of my son... change diapers.. it's "papa day" :-)
[13:41] <pips1> ogra: hehe
[13:41] <Nubae> yeah or  2 cans on a long string...
[13:42] <pips1> brb
[13:42]  * Nubae goes check on his Gulash
[13:42] <ogra> Nubae, well, cars and trucks hitting the string might be a bit disturbing :=
[13:42] <Nubae> ah but we have tall mountains here ;-)
[13:42] <ogra> heh
[13:57] <RichEd> Nubae: thanks ... i'll grab you here tomorrow if i need help okay ?
[13:57] <RichEd> pips1: does Nubae have the edit righte he needs ?
[13:59] <pips1> RichEd: he has "editor" rights, lemme double check.. not sure if he can create new pages. It always easier to work on a new page quietly and then simply redirect the url to that new page once it's ready
[14:00] <pips1>  Nubae are you familiar with Drupal? do you know how to change an aliase to a new node?
[14:09] <pips1> RichEd: I notice several new drupal user accounts on edubuntu.org - all unknown to me
[14:10] <pips1> there is 'tirion' with siteadmin rights
[14:10] <pips1> familiar?
[14:10] <pips1> is it https://launchpad.net/~tirion ?
[14:10] <pips1> his name sounds familiar to me..
[14:11] <pips1> Nubae: perhaps you know tirion ^^^ ? he opened the drupal account around the same time as you..
[14:11] <pips1> oops strike that
[14:12] <pips1> tirion got his account 27 weeks ago, you did 2 weeks ago?
[14:17] <pips1> Nubae: are you here? can I quickly talk you through it?
[14:18] <Nubae> yep
[14:18] <pips1> great
[14:18] <pips1> I only have 20-30 mins, then I need to go
[14:19] <pips1> first of all, perhaps I can introduce you to matt nuzum, the ubuntu.com webmaster
[14:19] <Nubae> ok, sorry was preparing my servietten knödel
[14:19] <pips1> just in case you need some expert help :-)
[14:19] <Nubae> I'm here now though, just reading through what u wrote
[14:19] <pips1> ahhh nice
[14:19] <Nubae> ok I know drupal a bit, though worked much more with joomla
[14:19] <pips1> I've been wanting to come to austria for a long time now, just for the fantastic food :-)
[14:20] <pips1> ok, so let me introduce you to matt nuzum
[14:20] <pips1> join us in #ubuntu-website
[14:20] <Nubae> ok
[14:21] <RichEd> pips1: who else is allowed to create accounts ? i thought it was just you and highvolt1ge
[14:26] <pips1> RichEd: no. there are several people with siteadmin rights
[14:27] <pips1> RichEd: MatthewNuzum JordanMantha tirion <-- don't know the last person
[14:33] <RichEd> ta
[14:49] <pips1> RichEd: I talked Nubae through the procedure of updating the download page and the release notes... i also introduced him to matt nuzum on #ubuntu-website
[14:49] <pips1> hope all works well tomorrow. :-)
[14:49] <RichEd> excellent :)
[14:50] <pips1> I'll try to pop in on IRC tomorrow, as soon as i'm done with my work meetings.. but it might be late afternoon
[14:50] <pips1> See you!!
[15:37] <sbalneav> Morning all
[19:37] <Rideh> is there a 8.10 rc1 of edubuntu yet? or is there a pacakge i can apt-get to add edubuntu to the current rc of 8.10?
[19:38] <sbalneav> Should be able to apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[19:39] <ogra> and there should be an iso as well
[19:39]  * ogra didnt test if or how well it works though
[19:39] <Rideh> yea i was hesitant to see if 8.04 edubuntu addon cd worked with 8.10 :D
[19:39] <Rideh> but i guess thats what i have VMware for
[19:41] <Rideh> sbalneav: ty i didnt know what the package name was
[19:46] <sbalneav> NP
[21:25] <mbruell> Hello - I'm trying to install an ltsp server using Hardy, but can't select F4 option on the install.
[21:27] <ogra> mbruell, did you download the right iso ?
[22:10] <mbruell> I downloaded ubuntu 8.04.1 server iso
[22:13] <mbruell> ogra - thanks for your reply  - I need to get going. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for any help you might have.
[22:14] <ogra> you need the alternate desktop iso
[22:15] <ogra> not server
[22:15] <mbruell> really? Even if I want to use it as an ltsp *server*?
[22:15] <ogra> yes
[22:15] <ogra> ltsp needs a desktop running on the server where you can log in to
[22:15] <ogra> the server iso doent have any desktop apps
[22:16] <ogra> *doesnt
[22:16] <mbruell> Right - I've discovered that...;-)
[22:16] <mbruell> So, I start with the ltsp desktop client, and will be able to select F4 option for ltsp?
[22:17] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall has a link to the iso ... though yu might probably want to try out 8.10 which will release tomorrow
[22:17] <ogra> the ltsp there has a bunch of improvements
[22:17] <mbruell> Okay - maybe I'll try that. I
[22:17] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20081028/
[22:17] <mbruell> Cool!
[22:17] <mbruell> This is great!
[22:18] <mbruell> do you know about long term support?
[22:18] <ogra> only for 8.04
[22:18] <ogra> since ltsp involves desktop packages, its supported for 3 yers
[22:18] <ogra> *years
[22:18] <mbruell> That's good
[22:18] <ogra> 8.10 is using the normal support cycle of 18months for everything
[22:19] <mbruell> okay - well if it works well, there would be a 9.04 release with long term support, I suppose
[22:20] <ogra> no, LTS releases are only done in a two year frequency
[22:20] <ogra> 10.04 would be the next LTS
[22:20] <mbruell> oh - okay.
[22:21] <mbruell> excellent!
[22:21] <mbruell> Thanks for your help.
[22:21] <ogra> welcome :)
[22:21] <mbruell> I'm downloading the daily build
[22:21] <mbruell> Peace