[00:00] it don't work is a bit vague - any errors? - tried opening eclipse from konsole to see errors? etc [00:00] Far^Side: you would need to reinstall - they are diff os's [00:00] favro, ok... [00:02] hmmm i wonder if there is a way to copy and paste into the VM [00:06] no git in the dev list? :P guess im doing this by console :) [00:06] is there an sqlite group? cause Im having issues with amarok in gnome desktop accessing my files [00:07] hmm [00:08] turns out codeweavers have released UNLOCKED versions of their apps on the lame duck site [00:08] i wonder whats the register key for hen [00:08] then even [00:08] favro: eclipse worked, but it doesn't have the samples [00:08] krash: any errors mentioned? [00:09] favro: will try running it in command line now :P [00:09] * favro shold point out he doesn't use eclipse [00:10] favro: Hrmm it says Could not create /usr/local/lib/eclipse/.eclipseextension. Please run as root [00:10] sudo eclipse then [00:11] i need alittle guidance using amarok on gnome.. it continues to rebuild that database all the time and I cant edit the filed for the tracks [00:11] krash: you should only have to use sudo the once to get the extensions [00:12] favro: that's what I was thinking thanks :) [00:12] When I click the clock in the panel the calendar pops up, nice feature. But, Sunday is the last day of the week. How do I make Sunday the first day of the week? [00:12] snarkster: maybe try in #amarok [00:12] thank you [00:13] wow i am having trouble finding and installing the JDK for ubuntu .. man its been too long since i used a linux UI [00:14] does adept not have the java SDK? [00:14] !java [00:14] there's no bot... [00:15] :P [00:15] just look for jre [00:15] you mean jdk? [00:15] jre I think is the one [00:15] no i mean jre [00:15] oh wierd [00:15] lol [00:16] Java Runtime Environment [00:16] there is openjdk and sun jre [00:16] your choice i prefer the real deal. [00:16] the sun one says for development to refer to the sun-java6-jdk [00:16] which isnt listed [00:17] am i doing something wrong? :p [00:17] Hey, restarting the panel doesn't kill konversation if you're using the tray icon. I always thought it would. [00:18] so no more hints then? :P [00:18] How can one connect to a wireless network from the command line? [00:19] DJTachyon: it might be in the medibuntu repo [00:20] ill install the JRE first [00:20] and how do i add the medibuntu repo? [00:21] medibuntu.org has the howto [00:21] http://packages.medibuntu.org/intrepid/index.html [00:21] doesnt seem to be there [00:22] DJTachyon: What are you looking for? [00:23] The JDK [00:23] Sun JDK [00:23] Are you on Hardy? [00:23] Intrepid [00:23] DJTachyon: do you have the universe and multiverse repos available [00:23] having trouble with tightvnc [00:23] Ah, the repos are different, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 [00:23] sorry I TOOK THAT FOR GRANTED [00:23] docs don't give a lot of info either [00:24] sorry for the caps [00:24] :) [00:24] Kubuntu is greate! [00:25] DJTachyon: and "apt-cache search --names-only jdk" returns nothing? [00:25] anyone know how to use TightVNC or know where i can get some decent info on it? [00:26] ardchoille: It does but the GUI does not [00:26] ah, ok [00:27] DarkTan: http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html === rocio is now known as blackboy [00:28] yeah, they don't help, as previously stated. it assumes i know what i'm doing [00:28] i don't [00:28] oh [00:28] DarkTan: you trying to run a server? [00:29] run the server and then run the viewer on a windows box [00:29] run the server on a kubuntu box* [00:29] Okay have you tried running vncserver :1 in a terminal? [00:30] i didn't have ":1" at the end [00:31] that runs it on port 5901 [00:31] just did so [00:31] ... [00:31] docs say 580* [00:31] or 5801 *nods* [00:31] maybe that's why i can't get to it *tries 5901* [00:32] not exactly sure one of them is for the java part of the server [00:32] i'm using the vncviewer on the windows box [00:32] I usually do vncserver --geometry 1024x768 :1 (that changes your screen size) :) [00:32] failed to connect [00:33] does it make a difference if i use my internet ip from a computer on my network? [00:33] for the vncviewer just type the ip of the server and :1 at the end [00:34] DarkTan: You should use your local IP address, internet addresses *should* requier port forwarding for it to work [00:34] failed to connect again [00:34] ahh, ok [00:34] !bot [00:34] w00t, it work [00:35] ardchoille: Im just doing a command line install :P [00:36] DJTachyon, a *command line* install or a *text mode* install??? [00:37] yes :P [00:37] sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk [00:37] *moon* [00:38] i wanted to learn how to use KDE4 :P [00:38] now if i could just figure out how to copy and paste into the VM [00:38] how do you open dolphin in root? [00:38] i keep forgetting [00:39] k-something [00:39] kdesu dolphin [00:39] thx [00:39] np [00:40] when i minimize something in vnc viewer, how do i bring it back? i have to task bar. [00:43] darktan: F8? :P [00:44] DarkTan: Is your server running kde? [00:44] DarkTan: You *should* have a taskbar, is it docked? [00:44] i have a terminal and nothing else [00:45] i don't know what the server is running [00:45] woohoo intrepid on aspire one :) [00:45] DarkTan: Ahh kill the server vncserver -kill :1 [00:45] i can pulls up dolphin or konqueror by typing them in [00:45] then go into your user directory and then type cd .vnc [00:46] well, i kinda like it this way [00:46] a few friends will be using it as well, so it keep them from screwing anything up [00:46] DarkTan: well you can run startkde from there too if you want else edit the .xstartup file :) [00:46] is there a way to view the virtual desktops from the real desktop? [00:47] oh ok [00:48] hmm, ran "startkde" killed my ternimal and give me nothing else. where was also a bunch of errors [00:49] hrmm weird always worked for me :P [00:50] could be a different issue, i worry about it later [00:50] but back to the first question, can i view the virtual desktop from the real desktop? [00:51] Sure you can vnc into it as well, also you should check into desktop sharing [00:51] ok, guess i'll have to set it up to run a wm [00:51] can i have it run xfce? [00:52] yeah that's what I was telling you about the /home/user/.vnc/xstartup file [00:52] ok, lets go back to that then [00:52] ok, i have a terminal in the .vnc dir [00:53] you see an xstartup file? [00:53] yeah [00:55] edit it, and change the comment out the xterm and add startxfce & [00:55] i don't have xfce installed yet [00:55] kubuntu 8.10 rc is really something, tho! [00:55] so i'll just set it to kde for now [00:55] sudo aptitude install xfce [00:56] i don't have "xterm" anywhere on there [00:56] i have a line that reads "x-window-manager &" [00:56] nickwinl It is nifty but I went back to 8.04 waiting still [00:57] oh wait, i see one that says "x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls" [00:57] krash: kde3 or 4? This 4 on 8.10 is really something... [00:57] DarkTan: put a # infront of it that'll comment that out the first one [00:58] ok where do i put in for xfce? [00:58] nickwinl: Aye I'm using 3 again now, kde4 is really neat though I concur just was a bit quirky on my box [00:58] on a new line type startxfce & [00:58] you'll have to install it before it'll work though :P [00:59] hehe [00:59] yeah [00:59] do i need that geometry and title lines tho? [01:04] ok i did "sudo aptitude install xfce" i didn't find anything [01:07] xfce4 [01:09] DarkTan: it's xfce4, and if you wan't all the bells it's xubuntu-desktop [01:11] Hi, may some one please suggest a decent FLV editor? All I need to do is cut about 20 seconds out of a FLV file. [01:12] mgroman: I use ffmpeg for that stuff - for gui try avidemux [01:12] favro: thanks [01:12] np === sean is now known as Guest22000 === Guest22000 is now known as psyco [01:16] Hey, if I have a socket A cpu, do I need a "socket a" heatsink/fan or can I also use a socket am2 [01:17] psyco: I could be wrong, but that doesn't sound like an kubuntu question however did you try googling it? [01:18] psyco: you could ask in #hardware [01:18] lol yeah, i tend to ask it because irc has many tech savvy people [01:18] good idea [01:19] hi guys [01:20] psyco: You need a Socket A cooler. You may find a cooler that does multi-CPUs types, though. [01:21] socket A is a bit old [01:21] hehe yeah :P [01:21] ok thanks, Darthfrog [01:21] you should hope that the modern coolers support it [01:23] speaking of CPU coolers ... the Xigmatech HDT 1283 is a beast === tachyon is now known as VJTachyon [01:24] *mutter* ok, only using the CD drive for the repos again... [01:26] how is kde4 coming along? [01:26] I thought about installing it, but wanted to see how it was doing over all from some users. [01:27] shane2peru: Perhaps ask in #kubuntu-kde4 [01:27] is kde4 advancing? is it more usable then when it first came out? [01:27] ardchoille: ahh, will do, thanks! [01:27] I've been using it since 4.1.0, and it's worked well enough for me [01:27] ok, terminal install only goes to cd rom now, but Adept (via gui) works fine [01:28] Dragnslcr: I tried it in the 4.0 stage, and it was a work in progress. [01:28] Yeah, 4.0.x wasn't really meant for general use [01:33] Always when I resize the dolphin window, close it and open it again the size is again the same. What can I do to save the size to the window? [01:34] question [01:34] i have an audigy x-fi extreme pc card (soundcard) [01:34] it's detected in lspci, but if i do `sudo asoundconf list` only my onboard audio comes up [01:34] what should i do from here? [01:34] !sound [01:35] yea. [01:35] i didn't ask for a canned respond from a bot [01:35] mot_: you card is not suported by alsa I think [01:36] think it'll work in pulseaudio? [01:36] All the X-Fi are not supported, only a little bit in OSS4. [01:36] Pulseaudio is not a replacemento for ALSA! [01:36] There is only ALSA and OSS [01:37] mot_: search in google for X-fi and linux or alsa, you will find maybe how to make it work in OSS [01:37] ALSA is the drivers related software. [01:37] PulseAudio y only a software mixer with some nice things. === joey__ is now known as Rinchen2 === ray_ is now known as ray__ [01:52] ola [01:54] olaa [01:58] It seems like Kubuntu is finally looking ready [01:59] Linux has indeed came a loooooong way [01:59] Heck even flash is working in 8.1 no crashes [01:59] 8.10 [02:00] ard they almost have to call it 8.11 :P [02:00] hehe [02:01] Personally I would preferred that they call it 8.11 , delay it a month and put openoffice 3.0 in the release [02:01] hey, how do I install a .sh file? [02:02] !sh [02:02] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [02:03] ubottu, the less the user needs to use the CLI the better. If they want to use it fine, but they shouldnt have to. [02:03] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:03] lol [02:03] !botsnack [02:03] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [02:04] apt-get is much better than yum, its one of the few CLI things I do [02:04] okay, got it [02:04] !botsnack [02:04] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [02:05] * krash laughs [02:05] I was trying to install Codeweavers that was ever so graciously provided for today [02:05] !apt [02:05] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE) [02:05] I like the basic setup of it, I'm surprised more programs aren't installed in this method (other than ones available through apt-get) [02:05] !kde [02:05] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 [02:06] !codeweavers [02:06] Sorry, I don't know anything about codeweavers [02:06] !codeweaver [02:06] Sorry, I don't know anything about codeweaver [02:06] !wine [02:06] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility. [02:07] !messagethebot [02:07] Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [02:07] can someone help me with my ATI Radeon Card? [02:09] does anyone else have TinyVNC? [02:09] !ati | mrksbrd [02:09] mrksbrd: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [02:13] I have recently installed wmii on kubuntu and I can't seem to change tabs in irssi [02:14] what should I do? [02:16] only if i bend it in half [02:22] Hi, I've seen that the new kubuntu has the slogan "kde 4.1 don't look back"... this seems to mean "forget kde 3" however some systems administrators may like myself would like to keep using kde 3.5.x for now, since I don't want that end-users that are acustom to kde 3.0 had to learn how to use a different platform, will kde 3.0 still be supported in ubuntu 8.10? seems that Debian lenny will stil use it.. [02:23] not in 8.10 but kde3.5 will be supported in hardy while hardy is supported [02:24] gnight all thanks for the help [02:41] hello i have a little problem [02:42] enywhone around? [02:42] What's the problem? [02:42] I will use my old color config from kde3 to copy it to my desk with kde4 and some kde3 apps, but where is/are the file/s? [02:42] well i have a version of ubuntu i don`t really know which one but... i got problems whit the nvidia driver.... didn`t take it ... [02:43] vlad: do you have 8.10? [02:43] vlad: open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a [02:46] ardchoille: [02:46] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [02:46] Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 [02:46] Release: 8.04 [02:47] That's Hardy [02:47] yeah [02:47] then it is not the xserver... [02:47] no i use it only to learn [02:47] ... [02:47] linux [02:49] it isn`t able to update... the nvidia driver... [02:49] vlad: How did you install the nvidia driver? [02:50] well i didn`t before it was geting it by him self [02:50] ok, sounds like it was installed by the package manager [02:51] yeah but on another version of ubuntu [02:51] this one i downloaded today [02:51] vlad: so you downloaded and installed it manually? [02:51] no [02:52] it was instaled by a little program [02:52] ok [02:52] wubi ... instaler.. [02:53] you're on Windows? [02:53] no [02:53] now i am on linux [02:53] ok [02:54] be right back [02:54] it whil take only a second [02:58] anyone else notice the system's mouse prefs not changing directly under konsole? I switched to classic mousetool from the oxygen pointer [03:01] back [03:01] still same problem [03:08] so still here? [03:10] Agent_bob: shalom [03:10] I'm still here but I don't understand your problem [03:13] Aleichem mr---t- [03:13] yes I'm well thank you [03:14] * genii hands out coffee in large Kubuntu mugs [03:15] well ardchoille i don`t have the right rezolution [03:15] * Agent_bob accepts mug ... pours coffee into potted plant [03:16] * mr---t- don't waste it , he will take it [03:16] Agent_bob: Heh :) Coffee is good for plants as well [03:17] genii better for the plant than for me :) [03:17] Any unresolved support issues tonight? === davidc_ is now known as concernedcitizen [03:18] idk, just got here [03:18] vlads got one but I think english isn't his native language so it's hard to know what the problem is [03:19] vlad was having issues [03:19] need help here!! how do i install/configure LAMP on my kubuntu 8.04?? [03:19] !lamp [03:19] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [03:20] Ok so [03:20] viriimind: Basically to have package tasksel installed, then run: sudo tasksel and then select LAMP install [03:20] is there a good place for kubuntu products like stickers other than cafe press? [03:21] ok [03:21] viriimind: This will set up preconfigured apache,mysql php [03:21] gr8 [03:21] thanks genii [03:21] viriimind: You're welcome [03:21] claydoh ubuntu.org has a link [03:25] Agent_bob: no kubuntu items on shop.canonical.com [03:25] just looking for different places [03:26] !products [03:26] Sorry, I don't know anything about products [03:27] witch java verison is better for intrepid? [03:27] *should I install? [03:27] well there used to be an infonode [03:28] the one you want [03:28] what do I type in terminal to get my version number [03:28] lsb_release -a [03:29] mr---t- lsb_release -a [03:29] Wait, of java ? [03:29] commmand not found [03:29] no kubuntu [03:30] cat /etc/lsb [03:30] mr---t-: for just the release it's lsb_release -r [03:30] What can I do to make Fiirefox in kde4 look like a kde4 app? [03:30] KDesk: In Hardy? [03:31] ardchoille: nop, intrepid. [03:31] no idea how to do it without kcontrol [03:32] KDesk: I think you might want package gtk-qt-engine-kde4 [03:32] KDesk: Try this: kcmshell kcmgtk [03:32] * ardchoille is hoping kcmshell and modules are still in kde4 [03:33] how come lsb_release -a didn't work? [03:33] it should have [03:34] -r just shows the release info [03:34] ardchoille: they are [03:34] typo ? [03:34] what should the a do all ? [03:34] yes, -a = all [03:34] shows all [03:34] genii: I have that package installed, it is a Transitional package to gtk-qt-engine [03:34] man lsb_release [03:34] yes all [03:34] ardchoille: the command didn't returned anything and firefox is still not nice. [03:35] KDesk: Ok, I don't know how to do it in kde4. you might try asking in #ubuntu+1 [03:36] Hmm, I wonder how long until the official release ISOs hit the mirrors [03:36] ardchoille: ok, thanks. Will you keep using Hardy with kde 3.5? Dont you like kde 4? [03:36] KDesk: Ah, wait, you should have the systemsettings app, run that in a terminal and go to Look & Feel -> Appearance [03:37] Then to GTK Styles and Fonts [03:37] I must have had a leading space or something , it worked that time [03:37] i find it a little odd that the py script lsb_release has a better man page than things like sed do [03:37] ardchoille: I have looked there and there is that (module?) but the gtk apps aren't still nice [03:38] KDesk: I'll stick with kde3 for a while [03:38] KDesk: Hold on, I installed something that helped, lemme find it.. [03:38] ok, thanks [03:39] KDesk: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk-engines-qtpixmap [03:39] that made my firefox and gimp look nice in kde [03:39] But you have to go back into that GTK module and chose the "qt" item [03:40] sounds like a lot of work for a little eye-candy [03:40] Agent_bob: It's a one-time thing, so it's worth it IMHO [03:41] but /me browses with links sooooooo [03:42] well, I'm waiting for someone to write a kde graphics app that will replace gimp :) [03:42] ardchoille sure. i stand under that. [03:42] ardchoille: krita may do that one day [03:42] I hope so [03:42] so port gimp to qt and call it kimp [03:43] I wish I were smart enough to pull that off [03:43] or q_pimp ? [03:43] oh that would be timp never mind. [03:44] "qimp" ? [03:44] ardchoille yeah that's one place where using "dll" doesn't really help [03:45] ardchoille: with both gtk2-engines-qtpixmap gtk-engines-qtpixmap and with and without choosing in the GTK module the Qt item Firefox is still with the same look. [03:45] kraffix :) [03:45] genii maybe. i liked kimp best so far though [03:45] KDesk: did you restart firefox? [03:45] Kimp is a good name for a kde app :) [03:46] ardchoille: yes, many times. [03:46] :() [03:46] but of korse [03:46] k-gimp [03:46] qt-imp [03:46] thats straing, I think in hardy it was not so hard [03:46] it isn't, it was easy [03:46] maybe with krita in koffice 2... some day [03:46] :(){ [03:47] any way thanks ardchoille. [03:48] KDesk: You might try asking in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-kde4 [03:48] Sorry I couldn't be of more help === aib_ is now known as aib [03:48] actually considering the acronym gimp kimp would be the natural choice for a qt port of gimp [03:49] how to change the keyboard to french [03:49] GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program [03:49] Agent_bob: if it were qt, not kde, wouldn't it be qimp? [03:49] ardchoille: ok, I will ask there. [03:49] how to change the keyboard to french [03:50] ubuntu: System Settings [03:50] !keyboard [03:50] To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [03:51] dwidmann not seeing that the g in gimp is for gnu the k would be for kde which is not always gnu [03:51] dwidmann if the g wer for gtk then yse qtimp would be the natural choice. [03:51] sere [03:51] were [03:51] blah! [03:52] tanks thats better [03:52] * Agent_bob obviously can't type today [03:52] at any rate, IMO, porting gimp would be a waste of time [03:52] now its being almost a year ive been on linux how do i know wa version and KDE im running? [03:53] ubuntu: in any kde app, you can go to help -> about kde [03:53] dwidmann yeah and off topic too. and seeing that i can't type anyway. i'll try to stay a little closer to silent. [03:54] ok [03:55] ubuntu you can also use the kwin --version and lsb_release -a and uname -a for version information on your systems cersioning [03:55] s=c=v= [03:56]