[00:37] <angusthefuzz> is someone around to take a look at bug 288432 I think I am handling the bug incorrectly?
[00:45] <angusthefuzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/288432 "upgrade to intrepid caused boot to console with nvidia card"
[00:49] <hal14450> is your X still borked?
[00:50] <angusthefuzz> i am not the poster, the poster fixed their own problem by adding a driver line to xorg.conf
[00:51] <angusthefuzz> I am trying to decide if I mark the bug confirmed, add the workaround in comments and change the title
[00:51] <hal14450> oic
[00:51] <hal14450> sorry
[00:52] <angusthefuzz> I think the poster is trying to tell us that intrepid didnt configure his setup automatically
[00:52] <hggdh> angusthefuzz, this sounds correct
[00:52] <angusthefuzz> i was handling it as a bug/problem
[00:52] <hal14450> yeah
[00:52] <hggdh> it seems like a bug
[00:52] <hal14450> sounds like bulletproofx isn't detecting the card properly
[00:52] <angusthefuzz> yeah
[00:53] <hggdh> if you look at the xorg.0.log, it is failing to correctly acquire the card
[00:53] <hggdh> at least one of them
[00:53] <angusthefuzz> yeah, so really the bug is that the card isnt correctly detected, not that the user needs support
[00:53] <hal14450> grep for the (EE)
[00:53] <hal14450> lol
[00:53] <hggdh> seems to be it
[00:54] <angusthefuzz> great!  thanks
[00:54] <hggdh> angusthefuzz, I would also ask for a lspci
[00:54] <angusthefuzz> yep, thats what i am doing now :-)
[00:55] <hggdh> cool...
[00:55] <hggdh> angusthefuzz, and, of course, thank you for helping out
[00:55] <angusthefuzz> ditto, learn something new every day in the channel
[00:58] <hal14450> i know this is probably the wrong place to ask but i finally got unlazy enough to send in my gpg key for approval and i still haven't gotten the confirmation email
[00:58] <hal14450> anyone have any idea on how long that takes?
[00:58] <hggdh> hal14450, gpg key for approval for what?
[00:59] <hggdh> (i.e., what are you trying to get access to?)
[01:00] <angusthefuzz> for ubuntero?
[01:01] <hal14450> yes for ubuntero
[01:01] <hggdh> well, at least when I did it, there was no reply. You sign the CoC, you upload it, upload your gpg key, and you are done
[01:01] <hal14450> on launchpad
[01:01] <angusthefuzz> hal14450: I got an encrypted email that I needed to decrypt with firegpg
[01:01] <angusthefuzz> hal14450: it took maybe an hour to get the email for me.
[01:02] <hal14450> angusthefuzz, that's what i'm waiting for heh
[01:02] <hggdh> darn, yes, you are right --there is the email asking you to confirm the key
[01:02] <hal14450> i guess i have to be more patient
[01:03] <hal14450> it's been close to an hour now
[01:03] <angusthefuzz> hal14450: I decided the server had to work really hard to generate the encrypted email ;-)
[01:03] <hal14450> lol
[01:03] <hggdh> if the response is not automated, you will need to wait a few more hours -- most of the Lp folks are GMT
[01:05] <hal14450> A message has been sent to hal9000@XXXXXX.XXX, encrypted with the key XXXXXX/XXXXXXXX. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.
[01:05] <hal14450> that's all i have so far lol
[01:05] <hal14450> so i assume it may be automated if not then i'll wait until the UK wakes up
[01:06] <hggdh> well, then you got it
[01:06] <hggdh> do what it asks...
[01:06] <hal14450> just no email yet...
[01:06] <hal14450> and i've had some issues w/ email today
[01:07] <hggdh> but did you follow the link?
[01:08] <hal14450> i don't have the link yet since no email has arrived
[01:08] <hggdh> ah, sorry, I understood you had gotten it
[01:08] <hal14450> that was just the confirmation on launchpad
[01:09] <hal14450> i should have done this a long time ago but i was lazy
[01:10] <hal14450> went to OnLinux this past weekend and got inspired to get more hands on ;-)
[01:10] <hal14450> http://onlinux.ca
[01:18]  * hggdh thinks about going to the UDS at Mountain View this year
[01:19] <hal14450> hggdh, west coast eh?
[01:20] <hggdh> yay... I used to live in the Bay Area, and never returned there
[01:20] <hggdh> (the whole west coast, I mean)
[01:21] <hggdh> for a while my office was at Redwood City
[01:23]  * hal14450 lives in NY
[01:26]  * hggdh lives in Plano, TX, but is (sigh) rarely there
[01:28] <hal14450> cool I know a guy from Dallas that uses linux for everything but his main box I'm wearing him down though
[01:29] <hal14450> the goal is to get him to try it for a month without dualboot as an option
[01:30] <hggdh> well, I still have a virtual image of Windows -- need it for reporting times, and playing chess at playchess.com
[01:31] <hal14450> we all have guilty pleasures lol
[01:32] <hal14450> codeweavers is giving away software still for the next few hours anyway
[01:37] <hggdh> hal14450, thanks -- I have forgotten about the lameduck thingy... If I can get completely out of Windows (and forget my MCSE) I will be happy
[01:37] <hggdh> s/have/had/
[01:37] <hal14450> ;-)
[01:38] <hggdh> hum... codeweavers got hit hard...
[01:39] <hal14450> haha yeh
[01:39] <hal14450> i have it already
[01:50] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/87436/ SIGSEGV .. malloc_consolidate (av=0xb8079140) at malloc.c:4852
[01:51] <CarlFK> can anyone tell me what is the root of this problem?
[01:51] <CarlFK> so I know who to bother
[02:29] <bdmurray> hggdh: it'd be great to see you there
[03:53] <mrooney> that dustin kirkland, pushing people way down on planet.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <bdmurray> is he rambling about scotch?
[03:54] <mrooney> hggdh: I'll be there, we can have a jam session on EeeBotu!
[03:54] <mrooney> bdmurray: haha no, he must have imported all his posts from his old blog into his new one
[03:55] <mrooney> and ALL of them showed up and basically covered the front page
[03:55] <mrooney> pushing anything recently before it immediately to the very bottom
[03:55] <bdmurray> heh
[03:56] <mrooney> I still got a pretty decent response to my call for translations, so that is all good I suppose
[04:37] <woody86> can anybody give me some advice, or point me in the right direction with this bug:
[04:37] <woody86> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/288660
[04:38] <maco> woody86: im converting it to a question because it's not a bug, its just the person trying to use 2 apt's at once
[04:38] <woody86> or this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/288796
[04:41] <woody86> maco- that's my first instinct, too, but he said he tried to run it again from a fresh reboot, and checked the system monitor to make sure no other instance of aptitude or synaptic
[04:41] <woody86> was running
[04:42] <maco> woody86: yeah, he's trying to click with his mouse on a TUI
[04:42] <maco> as in, where he should be using tab and then enter to hit the OK
[04:43] <maco> i just read through now
[05:22] <woody86> where can I find the upstream bug reports for Pidgin?
[05:25] <maco> woody86: developer.pidgin.im
[05:25] <woody86> maco- thanks again :D
[06:41] <Hobbsee> !coc
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[06:51] <Hobbsee> morning dholbach
[06:51] <dholbach> hi Hobbsee
[06:53] <^lars^> good morning
[06:53] <dholbach> hi ^lars^
[10:10] <azimout> question: there are a lot of bug reports on launchpad that never saw any activity after the reporter filed them... is there some way (e.g. filter) to find those?
[10:14] <thekorn> azimout, no, not really, as there is not "show only bugs with no activity"-filter,
[10:14] <thekorn> but as a workaround you can search for bugs in a "New" state
[10:14] <azimout> yes, i'll just start going through "new" bugs starting from the oldest one...
[10:15] <thekorn> as all untouched bugs *sgould* have the status "New"
[10:15] <azimout> thank you, thekorn
[10:28] <jibel> azimout: you can also create a python script to count the number of comment for bugs in new/undecided state starting from the oldest one.
[10:29] <azimout> thank you jibel for the idea, and congratulations on joining bugcontrol
[10:29] <jibel> azimout: further infos at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/Examples
[10:29] <jibel> azimout: Thank you, I'm glad to join the team
[10:30] <azimout> i have never written a python script for launchpad, although i have python experience from gnuradio
[10:30] <azimout> i will read the links you sent me and attempt this...
[10:30] <azimout> i will keep you posted
[10:33] <jibel> azimout: And don't forget to test your script on staging before running it on the production launchpad
[10:34] <azimout> ok, i will try that
[13:35]  * thekorn kicks launchpad
[13:36] <Hobbsee> thekorn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/290668
[13:36] <Hobbsee> (as that's probably what you're hitting?)
[13:36] <thekorn> Hobbsee, yes exactly, got alot of timeouts on edge
[13:37] <thekorn> thank you
[13:39] <Hobbsee> thekorn: you're welcome
[14:14] <maco> Hobbsee: thanks for the warning. just hit it too
[14:53] <bucket529> Could I please get someone to change bug 290266 from 'undecided' to 'wishlist'? Packaging request with a very ugly license.
[14:59] <bucket529> Okay, just an ugly license. I didn't find anything that would keep it out of Multiverse.
[15:00] <maco> bucket529: done
[15:00] <bucket529> maco: Thanks
[15:49] <mrooney> Does anyone know anyone good to ping in #canonical-sysadmin?
[15:50] <bdmurray> mrooney: about what?
[15:50] <mrooney> I have been trying to get a fairly simple ticket resolved for about a month now, no one ever responds :[
[15:50] <bdmurray> mrooney: this week is a bit busy for them too I'd imagine
[15:51] <bdmurray> mrooney: if you forward the ticket to me I'll see if there is anything I can do
[15:52] <bdmurray> mvo: bug 285402 has the same traceback as something you fixed earlier
[15:54] <mvo> bdmurray: I think the problem is that its fixed in intrepid, but this guy is running hardy, we may consider a backport
[15:56] <bdmurray> mvo: the changelog in 204075 says hardy
[15:56] <mvo> oh
[15:57]  * mvo checks
[15:58] <mvo> bdmurray: you are right, I was confusing it with a different _read_status() failure that got fixed in intrepid - hmmm
[16:00] <mvo> thanks, I think the fix is not compelte, I update the code
[16:31] <kimf> bug #290762
[16:41] <BUGabundo_work1> asac: ping
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work1> I'm trying to debug NM pptp
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work1> and using dbg, but nm-applet is non-responsive
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work1> it kinda makes it hard to open a VPN
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work1> bug 259168
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work1> any one??
[17:01] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: not sure
[17:05] <munckfish> Hi bdmurray & folks. Ubuntu is going to feature PS3 support once again in Intrepid. I'd like to check you guys are aware that in order for any PS3 specific bugs to get PS3 community team attention they need to be linked to the 'ubuntu-ps3-port' project in Launchpad, cheers.
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work1> asac: had to reboot to even have control of my desktop
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work1> it was moving everything to slow
[17:07] <bdmurray> munckfish: I saw that, thanks for the information!
[17:08] <munckfish> bdmurray: great! np
[17:08] <bdmurray> munckfish: you might consider looking at the ps3 bug tag
[17:08] <munckfish> yeah I look it sometimes when I remember
[17:09] <munckfish> some turn up with the 'playstation' tag too I noticed
[17:09] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: what did you do?
[17:09] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: just install the -dbg packages ... then restart everything
[17:09] <asac> you dont need to run nm in the debugger if that is what you mean by "slow"
[17:10] <munckfish> bdmurray: there are probably some with 'ps3' tag which can be closed now - I'll review those in the coming days
[17:10] <asac> (at least for now)
[17:10] <BUGabundo_work1> asac: I just rebooted
[17:10] <BUGabundo_work1> but how will the dbg version be used?
[17:10] <BUGabundo_work1> don't I need to start it?
[17:11] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: well. the output you get ... it already has a stack
[17:11] <asac> this means that the plugin already does the backtracing
[17:11] <BUGabundo_work1> ok
[17:11] <BUGabundo_work1> so syslog shoould be enough?
[17:11] <asac> to get a first impression just see what happens with all the -dbgsym installed
[17:11] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: just the backtrace
[17:11] <BUGabundo_work1> let me try the VPN  PPTP then
[17:12] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: you need the -pptp-dbgsym package
[17:12] <asac> (just to be sure)
[17:12] <BUGabundo_work1> ahh ok
[17:12] <BUGabundo_work1> installing
[17:12] <asac> and all the others of course too
[17:12] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: well. you need all symbols for everything involved to get something meaningful
[17:12] <asac> give it a try
[17:12] <BUGabundo_work1> I need to dongrade nm-pptp too
[17:12] <BUGabundo_work1> lol
[17:14]  * BUGabundo_work1 installing pptp-linux-dbg and nm-pptp-dbg
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work1> asac: how much sensitive data does it store?
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work1> I don't want my password to be sent publicly
[17:15] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: err. it doesnt store anything
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work1> ok
[17:15] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: you can see what you send
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work1> and do I need MPPE ?
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work1> it was once necessary
[17:15] <asac> if there is the password visible just dont send it or anonymize
[17:16] <BUGabundo_work1> and it worked
[17:16] <asac> not sure
[17:16] <BUGabundo_work1> but now with it or without it doesn't
[17:16] <BUGabundo_work1> I'll try both
[17:16] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: i think you know how to get the crash ;)
[17:16] <BUGabundo_work1> VON FAILESD
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work1> actually I don't
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work1> with MPPE : VPN FAILED
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work1> can I upload the syslog ?
[17:18] <BUGabundo_work1> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64189
[17:19] <BUGabundo_work1> anything of use?
[17:24] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: err, i dont see any crash in there
[17:24] <BUGabundo_work1> it didn't crash
[17:24] <BUGabundo_work1> but it didn't connect either
[17:25] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: well. the bug i thought we are talking about had a crash ;)
[17:25] <asac> lets track that
[17:25] <BUGabundo_work1> it might!
[17:25] <BUGabundo_work1> nm tends to blow
[17:25] <BUGabundo_work1> either on VPNs or WiFi
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work1> but right now, it aint crashing
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work1> I just want my VPN to work...
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work1> I need it to connect to my Univ WiFi
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work1> either that or the WPA Entrepise PAP Eduroam
[17:28] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: try http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/NetworkManager?view=revision&revision=4210
[17:28] <asac> that patch
[17:28] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: try the latest nm packages from ppa in intrepid
[17:29] <asac> at least a bunch of EAP issues were fixed yesterday
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> no PPA version tweak for that one?
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> I had the PPA version
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> but it failed too
[17:29] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: no. thats not integrated yet. would be cool if you could verify. then i will ramp that up
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> and you recommend me to install the dbg version
[17:29] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: you tried the latest ppa on WPA-EAP?
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> how do I do it?
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work1> 1st time paching sources!
[17:30] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: cannot explain that ;) ... ask in -motu ;)
[17:30] <BUGabundo_work1> ok
[17:30] <asac> cannot explain == have to run in a few
[17:30] <BUGabundo_work1> np
[17:30] <asac> otherwise you need to wait for next ppa update ... when i will upload a new snapshot there
[17:30] <BUGabundo_work1> WPA and WPA2 is working fine for me
[17:30] <BUGabundo_work1> but entreprise aint
[17:30] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: those it doesnt work
[17:30] <asac> 18:26 < BUGabundo_work1> either that or the WPA Entrepise PAP Eduroam
[17:30] <asac> s/those/thought/
[17:31] <BUGabundo_work1> WPA personal = OK
[17:31] <BUGabundo_work1> WPA Entreprise = Timesout a lot and can't reconnect
[17:31] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: right. nm3 should fix that
[17:31] <BUGabundo_work1> nm3 ?
[17:31] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: the package uploaded today to nm ppa
[17:31] <asac> ~nm3
[17:32] <kimf> BUGabundo_work1:You getting the "no vpn secret"?
[17:32] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: should fix the timeout thing
[17:32] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: network-manager - 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2~nm3
[17:32] <BUGabundo_work1> let me upgrade to the PPA version
[17:32] <asac> please verify that ... and also verify the pptp patch ;)
[17:32] <asac> thanks ;)
[17:33] <BUGabundo_work1> I have now ~nm1
[17:33] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: thats old
[17:34] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive
[17:34] <BUGabundo_work1> amd64
[17:34] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: i am talking about network-manager
[17:34] <asac> -pptp has nothing to do with WPA-EAP
[17:34]  * BUGabundo_work1 running sudo apt-get update
[17:34] <BUGabundo_work1> I know asac
[17:34] <BUGabundo_work1> LOL
[17:34] <asac> ok ;)
[17:35] <asac> you never know ;)
[17:35] <BUGabundo_work1> just because I don't patch it doesn't mean I don't know my network transport types!
[17:35] <BUGabundo_work1> 2 bugs!
[17:35] <BUGabundo_work1> PPTP fail to connect
[17:35] <BUGabundo_work1> and WPA Entreprise timeouts
[17:35] <asac> yeah
[17:35] <asac> you need latest of PPA to verify the latter
[17:37] <BUGabundo> ~$ apt-cache show network-manager
[17:37] <BUGabundo> Architecture: amd64
[17:37] <BUGabundo> Version: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2~nm3
[17:37] <BUGabundo> ok, now I have nm3
[17:37] <asac> everything needs to be restarted (-> reboot)
[17:37] <asac> then test EAP
[17:37] <BUGabundo> I miss read
[17:37] <BUGabundo> Preparing to replace network-manager-pptp 0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu1 (using .../network-manager-pptp_0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu2~nm1_amd64.deb) ...
[17:38] <BUGabundo> it was replacing
[17:38] <BUGabundo_work1> EAP ?
[17:38] <BUGabundo_work1> I don't have EAP
[17:38]  * BUGabundo rebooting
[17:39] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: you are talking about WPA Enterprise timeouts
[17:39] <asac> thats EAP
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work1> ahh
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work1> ok
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work1> can't test those now
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work1> not at univ
[17:39] <asac> WPA-PSK
[17:39] <asac> WPA-EAP
[17:39] <kimf> BUGabundo_work1:You getting the "no vpn secret" on that PPTP VPN?
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work1> I'm at work
[17:40]  * BUGabundo_work1 GDM starting
[17:40] <BUGabundo_work1> at our University we use EDUROAM
[17:41] <BUGabundo_work1> that's WPA Entreprise + TTLS + PPA
[17:41] <BUGabundo_work1> s/PPA/PAP/
[17:42] <BUGabundo> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64197/
[17:43] <BUGabundo> VPN (nm3) PPTP with MPPE
[17:43] <BUGabundo> fails
[17:43] <BUGabundo> (of course)
[17:43] <BUGabundo> tommorow I'll try to test/log WPA Entreprise
[17:43] <asac> BUGabundo_work1: from the patch that you didnt apply yet it seems that pptp overrides everything NM sets through /etc/ppp/options.pptp or just options
[17:43] <asac> you might to check that there are the right settings
[17:43] <BUGabundo> any other advice before I go?
[17:44] <asac> BUGabundo: what are the symptoms? you dont get any password dialog?
[17:44] <BUGabundo> it asks to unlock
[17:44] <BUGabundo> I set allow for session
[17:45] <BUGabundo> $ pastebinit -i /etc/ppp/options.pptp  http://paste.ubuntu.com/64198/
[17:45] <BUGabundo> Oct 29 17:42:06 blubug NetworkManager: <WARN>  get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: vpn-password-dialog.c.299 (nma_vpn_request_password): canceled.
[17:45] <kimf> Try to remove the password you have set in the VPN, so that you get the password pop-up and try to connect and enter the password
[17:46] <BUGabundo> you mean this?
[17:47] <BUGabundo> all passwords removed from NM config and keychain (seahorse)
[17:47] <BUGabundo> its asking for the pass
[17:48] <BUGabundo> I enter it, don't select any checkboxs
[17:48] <BUGabundo> and VPN ballon show up saying it failed
[17:49] <BUGabundo> and now asac "leaves the room"
[17:49] <asac> 18:47 < BUGabundo> you mean this?
[17:49] <asac> 18:48 < asac> right ... do what kimf says ;)
[17:49] <asac> reconnect
[17:49] <BUGabundo> asac: $ pastebinit -i /var/log/syslog
[17:49] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64202/
[17:49] <BUGabundo> who is kimf?
[17:49] <BUGabundo> ahh the other person who asked me to remove the pass
[17:49] <kimf> yup, hehe
[17:50] <BUGabundo> (2008-10-29 17:47:34) freenode: all passwords removed from NM config and keychain (seahorse)
[17:50] <BUGabundo> (2008-10-29 17:47:47) freenode: its asking for the pass
[17:50] <BUGabundo> (2008-10-29 17:48:02) freenode: I enter it, don't select any checkboxs
[17:50] <BUGabundo> (2008-10-29 17:48:13) freenode: and VPN ballon show up saying it failed
[17:50] <BUGabundo> sorry kimf....
[17:50] <BUGabundo> didn't read the nick
[17:50] <BUGabundo> was expecting an answer from asas
[17:50] <BUGabundo> bah asac
[17:50] <BUGabundo_work1> keep rotating my head to two monitors makes me a bit dizzy
[17:51] <kimf> No problem. Noticed it was a problem similar to mine. And there I can connect if I type in the password in the password pop-up
[17:51] <kimf> So would at least have been a workaround
[17:52] <BUGabundo> didn't work for me
[17:52] <asac> BUGabundo: read the backlog
[17:52] <asac> 18:47 < kimf> Try to remove the password you have set in the VPN, so that you get the password pop-up and try to  connect and enter the password
[17:52] <asac> BUGabundo: ^^
[17:52] <asac> k
[17:52] <asac> well ... not sure then
[17:52] <asac> i would try to tweak the options a bit
[17:52] <asac> i mean the ppp/options file
[17:52] <asac> BUGabundo: in the log i see its MS-CHAP
[17:52] <asac> BUGabundo: which is refused in your options.pptp
[17:53] <asac> BUGabundo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64203/
[17:53] <BUGabundo> let me select only mschap2
[17:53] <BUGabundo> its a ISA server here at work
[17:53] <asac> no clue what that is though
[17:53] <asac> but go ahead
[17:54] <BUGabundo> ISA Server?
[17:54] <BUGabundo> or mschap2?
[17:54] <asac> enable MPPE and get a fresh log ... at best not all, but only the last 3 minutes ;)
[17:54] <BUGabundo> how can I tell syslog to rotate?
[17:54] <asac> BUGabundo: first only enable MPPE
[17:54] <BUGabundo> or should I just tail it?
[17:55] <asac> then tail -f -n0 it
[17:55] <asac> and reproduce and paste it
[17:55] <BUGabundo> MPPE with MSCHAP2 only
[17:55] <asac> yes
[17:56] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe also read: http://marc.info/?l=pptpclient-devel&m=109408957028647&w=2
[17:56] <BUGabundo> its taking a lot of time to rotate the log
[17:56] <asac> if there is a blank or special sign in password it might be an issue here
[17:57] <BUGabundo> just letters and numbers
[17:57] <BUGabundo> how wait
[17:57] <BUGabundo> there is a '.'
[17:57] <asac> CHAP authentication failed
[17:57] <BUGabundo> point
[17:57] <asac> # specifying the wrong domain (E=691),
[17:57] <asac> specifying the wrong password (E=691), (e.g. by not quoting special characters),
[17:57] <asac> using spaces or blanks as part of your password (E=691), (our tests show this doesn't work).
[17:57] <asac> those are all 691
[17:57] <asac> check them
[17:58] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64206/
[17:58] <asac> yeah
[17:59] <asac> most likely not properly escaped password
[17:59] <BUGabundo> why is it using mschap when I select only mschap2 ?
[17:59] <BUGabundo> ill use another user for the test
[17:59] <BUGabundo> let me just connect to the AD
[18:02] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64209/
[18:02] <BUGabundo> new user, simple password (just 4 chars)
[18:02] <BUGabundo> FAIL
[18:02] <BUGabundo> so it aint the password escape, alone
[18:03] <asac> BUGabundo: is that the log?
[18:03] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:03] <BUGabundo> but I don't see any E=691 errors now
[18:03] <BUGabundo> so it's a 2 fold bug?
[18:04] <BUGabundo> latest log http://paste.ubuntu.com/64209/
[18:04] <asac> BUGabundo: the paste above has E691
[18:04] <asac> BUGabundo: that has the same error
[18:04] <BUGabundo> yes it has
[18:04] <BUGabundo> sorry
[18:04] <BUGabundo> eye tired
[18:04] <asac> really. try to remove the options stuff as i said
[18:04] <BUGabundo> I did
[18:04] <BUGabundo> all out
[18:04] <asac> i think you are really on MSCHAP
[18:04] <BUGabundo> just MSCHAP2 and MPPE
[18:05] <asac> he?
[18:05] <asac> what is in your options now?
[18:05]  * BUGabundo printscreen
[18:05] <asac> BUGabundo: no
[18:05] <BUGabundo> ok
[18:05] <asac> options.pptp file we need
[18:05] <BUGabundo> I never thouch that
[18:06] <BUGabundo> doesn't NM handle it?
[18:07] <asac> BUGabundo: why don t you read what i sais above?
[18:07] <BUGabundo> I think I did
[18:07] <BUGabundo> sorry if I'm causing you trouble
[18:07] <BUGabundo> long day of work
[18:07] <asac> BUGabundo: 18:43 < asac> BUGabundo_work1: from the patch that you didnt apply yet it seems that pptp overrides everything NM  sets through /etc/ppp/options.pptp or just options
[18:07] <asac> 18:43 < asac> you might to check that there are the right settings
[18:08] <BUGabundo> I already pastbini it !
[18:08] <asac> BUGabundo: try to remove the refusal stuff from there
[18:08] <asac> BUGabundo: i dont want it paste binned
[18:08] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:08] <BUGabundo> so, should I just comment those lines?
[18:08] <asac> and when i talk about options i talk about that file
[18:08] <asac> and not about options in NM
[18:08] <asac> no clue
[18:08] <asac> i have never used pptp to be honest
[18:09] <asac> i would expect that a comment shouldbe enough
[18:09] <BUGabundo> commented
[18:09] <BUGabundo> let me try again
[18:09] <BUGabundo> still fails
[18:09] <asac> yeah. then we cant debug it
[18:09] <asac> i need to know what is wrong ;)
[18:09] <asac> and then i can fix that in nm
[18:10] <BUGabundo> logs?
[18:10] <asac> nm doesnt do much except running pptp
[18:10] <asac> the logs dont show anything
[18:10] <asac> at least not to me
[18:10] <BUGabundo> I can't give you a VPN account
[18:10] <BUGabundo> to our server
[18:10] <asac> BUGabundo: that would probably be helpful
[18:10] <BUGabundo> then you will have all the logs I do
[18:10] <asac> BUGabundo: can we do that tomorrow?
[18:10] <BUGabundo> sure
[18:10] <asac> ok
[18:10] <asac> cool
[18:10] <BUGabundo> I'll be all week
[18:10] <asac> no guarantees
[18:10] <asac> but can take a look
[18:11] <BUGabundo> if you pinky promise not to damage our server/network
[18:11] <asac> testing self is much quicker than remotely ;)
[18:11] <asac> BUGabundo: i dont want another account
[18:11] <asac> what damage can i do ;)
[18:11] <asac> BUGabundo: you can close the account down after a few hours i think
[18:11] <BUGabundo> well.. you will be inside the network
[18:11] <BUGabundo> once you connect to the vpn
[18:11] <BUGabundo> ehe
[18:11] <asac> yeah
[18:11] <asac> well.
[18:11] <BUGabundo> MS bug: you close the account and the user is keept connected
[18:11] <asac> cant you setup VPN in such a way that i can authenticate, but my packets dont get routed ;)
[18:12] <asac> ?
[18:12] <BUGabundo> you do that on the client side
[18:12] <asac> hmm
[18:12] <BUGabundo> or at least you did on nm 0.6
[18:12] <BUGabundo> can't find that option on nm0.7
[18:12] <BUGabundo> its the Gateway option
[18:12] <asac> did what?
[18:12] <asac> oh now
[18:12] <asac> no
[18:12] <asac> i mean you could setup a firewall on the vpn server
[18:13] <asac> that doesnt let any packet from me through ;)
[18:13] <BUGabundo> I need it on
[18:13] <asac> and hand out a fixed ip to me or something
[18:13] <BUGabundo> ppl connect from out side
[18:13] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah. thats why i mean: "block just me"
[18:13] <asac> anyway ... have to prepare for evening
[18:13] <asac> lets do that tomorrow
[18:13] <BUGabundo> messing with the firewall, might interfire with the connection login
[18:13] <asac> you can send me credentials with my gpg key if you want
[18:13] <BUGabundo> ok
[18:13] <asac> with my gpg key encrypted ... if you want
[18:13] <BUGabundo> I'll look you up on LP
[18:14] <BUGabundo> bye
[18:14] <asac> BUGabundo: https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac
[18:14] <asac> thanks
[18:14] <asac> bye
[18:16] <calc> is there a reason that +upstreamreport doesn't base the upstream number off the triaged numbers (because triaged is too new or something?)
[18:17] <calc> aiui shouldn't it be - 1. all bugs 2. triaged 3. upstream (triaged) 4. bugwatched (upstream)
[18:18] <calc> istr someone complaining about it because they hadn't triaged their bugs yet when the report first started, but its been a while now
[18:18] <asac> calc: i wouldnt try to put too much sense into what is listed there ;)
[18:18] <calc> heh
[18:20] <asac> calc: i actually thought that triaged should only be used to show the oppertunity of forwarding
[18:20] <calc> iirc triaged is supposed to mean you have enough information to reproduce and/or fix the bug from the submitter
[18:20] <calc> if isn't forwardable because it is an ubuntu bug it would still be triaged once it has enough info in the report
[18:21] <calc> confirmed only really means someone else sees the bug not necessarily that the developer can see it
[18:21] <asac> calc: yeah. well. as i said dont put too much sense in it
[18:21] <calc> ok
[18:21] <asac> usually bugs with an empty upstream target should be "to forward"
[18:21] <asac> and triaged doesnt really matter at all
[18:22] <asac> like when you go to launchpad search page you can search for "bugs that are supposed to go upstream" or something
[18:22] <asac> so the ratio that matters here imo is:
[18:23] <asac> all bugs / bugs with upstream target / bugs forwarded / bugs with empty upstream target (e.g. to be forwarded)
[18:23] <asac> but then the argument was that a bug needs to be properly triaged before being forwarded so having a triaged vs. empty upstream target ration might be good as well
[18:23] <asac> ok off for real
[18:25] <calc> goodnight :)
[18:26] <calc> the argument from my side about the above is yes you can be fairly certain a bug is for upstream but until you have enough info to be 'triaged' you don't really know for certain, at least in most cases.
[18:27] <calc> and sometimes users mark bugs as upstream themselves, ugh
[19:19] <geekkit> I've been tracking (lurking) a particular bug that seems to have gone unattended for three versions now at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/+bug/205364
[19:19] <geekkit> i was wondering if there's a way to find the group/person who can look into fixing this. it appears to be one line of code to uncomment
[19:19] <crimsun> geekkit: my understanding is that "upstream" doesn't support emerald
[19:20] <geekkit> sorry? upstream?
[19:20] <crimsun> the developers
[19:21] <geekkit> crimsun: so upstream is the developer group?
[19:31] <arno_b> is someone able to reproduce bug 286436 (see the last comment)?
[19:31] <arno_b> I try to debug with gdb with no result :s if someone has an idea
[19:44] <MadsRH> If i want to report a bug for the shutdown window, witch package is that?
[19:46] <james_w> MadsRH: Hi. Which shutdown window?
[19:46] <MadsRH> the one in the system menu
[19:47] <james_w> gnome-session
[19:48] <MadsRH> thanks
[19:51] <afflux> evening
[20:18] <eightyeight> (not specifically bug-related, but...) does anyone use gmail filters to filter out the bug emails coming from launchpad? because the email is from myself to myself, matching '[Bug ' in the subject is getting more than i want
[20:26] <bdmurray> eightyeight: I don't know if gmail shows them but there are specific headers associated with launchpad bugs that would be helpful
[20:27] <eightyeight> yeah. i see the X-Launchpad-* headers, but gmail filters won't allow that
[20:28] <eightyeight> ahh. 'replyto:(*@bugs.launchpad.net)' works
[21:55] <Kimf> bug #290762
[22:14] <bcurtiswx> hey, anyone know if sound juicer rips from DVD's?
[22:14] <nhandler> bcurtiswx: I don't think it does. I know acidrip can though
[22:14] <bcurtiswx> nhandler, ty
[22:15] <nhandler> bcurtiswx: You can also use ffmpeg. And there is also a way to use vlc to do it
[22:15] <bcurtiswx> interesting, ok ty