[01:39] <bozza> hi all
[01:43] <bozza> any one here >?
[08:23] <huats> morning everyone
[08:33] <mvo> good morning seb128 and huats
[08:33]  * mvo yawns
[08:33] <seb128> hey mvo!
[08:33] <seb128> mvo: up late?
[08:34] <seb128> or just still waking up now? ;-)
[08:34] <mvo> seb128: still waking up :)
[08:34] <seb128> it's team time then ;-)
[08:35] <mvo> I got woken up by the phone at 8!
[08:35] <seb128> tea rather
[08:35] <seb128> oh?
[08:35] <mvo> (health insurance calling)
[08:35]  * seb128 doesn't like to woken up by the phone
[08:35] <huats> seb128: +1
[08:35] <mvo> tea time and team time :) prefect!
[08:35] <seb128> lut huats
[08:35]  * mvo hugs the team
[08:35]  * seb128 hugs mvo
[08:35] <seb128> cross team hugging! ;-)
[08:36] <mvo> ehheeh
[08:36] <huats> hello seb128
[08:36] <huats> :D
[08:36] <huats> hey mvo
[09:44] <Keybuk> woo, my patch worked today
[09:44] <Keybuk> I had a private message, I read it, but the notification icon stayed
[09:45] <Keybuk> after a brief "grr, broken patch" I realised I had another unread message by scrolling down the list
[11:02] <didrocks> hi seb128, mvo & huats :)
[11:02]  * didrocks hugs mvo with 3 hours late :)
[11:04] <mvo> hey didrocks!
[11:04] <mvo> never too late for a hug :)
[11:04] <didrocks> :)
[12:15] <seb128> lool: you know you can open upstream bugs directly upstream so bug triagers don't have to do ping pong between launchpad and bugzilla for you ;-)
[12:34] <lool> I usually do this when I reproduce with tip
[12:42] <seb128> lool: and there is no need to open bugs twice ;-)
[12:49] <ubuntakias> hi
[12:49] <ubuntakias> can someone help me to change my icons?
[12:49] <seb128> hey, try #ubuntu for user questions rather
[12:50] <ubuntakias> i asked but none answered :(
[12:50] <seb128> try again later then
[12:50] <ubuntakias> ok np
[12:51] <seb128> this channel is to get work done, if we start replying to questions there it'll turn to an user question channel and we will not get work done
[12:51] <lool> seb128: I didn't open bug twice; LP timed out when submitting bugs
[12:51] <lool> For two bugs
[12:51] <lool> I disabled edge and checked that this was reported against LP
[12:51] <seb128> lool: ah, it did open the bug but timeouted when trying to display the page then
[12:52] <seb128> no problem, I have issue using edge too today
[13:03] <seb128> pedro_: hey
[13:04] <pedro_> hello seb128
[13:04] <seb128> pedro_: how do you close those bug using those "Closing the report" title?
[13:04] <pedro_> seb128: using a script, do you want it?
[13:04] <seb128> pedro_: tell me about it before ;-)
[13:05] <seb128> does it take a bug number only? or does it list bugs to close using some criterious?
[13:05] <pedro_> seb128: it's a python-launchpad script, you just need to pass it the bug number(s) to it and it will close it for you
[13:06] <pedro_> i haven't found a safe way to list the bugs for close with python-launchpad yet, it always list some that have responses
[13:07] <pedro_> so i prefer to use lp for that and pass it the bug numbers i'd like to close to the script
[13:07] <pedro_> works better that way IMO
[13:08] <seb128> pedro_: can you give me the code? ;-) I'm not sure it's faster than greasmonkey but I will have a look
[13:08] <pedro_> seb128: yup, let me put it into pastebin, one min
[13:08] <seb128> pedro_: and I'm not sure I like the fact that you change the title to not mention the bug description, it means other people have to open the mail to know what bug you are closing
[13:09] <pedro_> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64076/
[13:09] <seb128> pedro_: thanks
[13:28] <mvo> seb128: meh, what is #260492 all about? it has millions of comments
[13:29] <seb128> mvo: using the open with option used to change the default association
[13:29] <seb128> mvo: ie, right click on a directory, open with eog and eog was set as the application to open directories
[13:29] <seb128> mvo: that has been fixed in intrepid
[13:30] <seb128> mvo: interesting thing is that gnome-panel in hardy didn't respect the default application association
[13:30] <seb128> mvo: but it does in intrepid now
[13:30] <mvo> I'm curious why ther is a updat-emanager task open
[13:30] <mvo> it seems like this is not the realm of it
[13:31] <seb128> mvo: because some people think that something should fix the user config automatically on upgrade
[13:31] <seb128> mvo: well technically the bug is fixed, nautilus will not write buggy configuration in intrepid
[13:31] <seb128> mvo: but people who used open with on a directory will have a weird config after upgrade
[13:32] <seb128> I suggest to slangasek to write it in the upgrade notes
[13:32] <seb128> suggested
[13:33] <seb128> not sure if my explanation make sense
[13:34] <mvo> yeah, makes sense
[13:34] <mvo> sounds like it should go into the upgrade notes indeed
[13:35] <seb128> well, I'm not the one who opened the update-manager task there ;-)
[13:38] <seb128> bug #260492
[14:51] <mvo> seb128: hm, do you know how good/usable smclient in libegg is? I consider using it in update-notifier to get rid of the last remaining libgnomeui bits
[14:52] <seb128> mvo: nautilus 2.25 is using it so I would say it works, alex usually knows what he's doing
[15:04] <seb128> mvo: should #264368 be reassigned somewhere?
[15:06] <seb128> mvo: where would you reassign it? ;-) xorg-server?
[15:06] <mvo> looking
[15:07] <mvo> yeah, -intel and -ati driver I think
[15:08] <seb128> I had it crashing too when xorg.conf was still using xaa
[15:08] <seb128> could be that they have some xorg options which create the issue
[15:10] <mvo> good idea
[16:36] <james_w> I just enquired whether there was any code for the proposed new user management tool that would allow us to get rid of g-s-t, and there is none yet, so it doesn't look like that will be feasible for Jaunty unless a couple of Ubuntu developers start it off.
[17:17] <mvo> james_w: thanks for this! writing a user managment tool can not be hard, can it (famous last words I guess ;)
[17:23] <james_w> mvo: have you seen the design?
[17:25] <mvo> james_w: ages ago I saw a wiki page about it I think
[17:25] <mvo> (weeks/months, not sure)
[17:25] <james_w> it was a pdf
[17:26] <james_w> I pointed it out at a desktop team meeting a few months ago
[17:27] <mvo> hm, I probably saw something different then
[17:30] <james_w> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-May/msg00006.html
[17:37] <mvo> james_w: hm, that looks pretty nice
[17:37] <james_w> I'd just like to get rid of g-s-t :-)
[17:41] <mvo> me too
[17:41] <mvo> actually this is something we talk about since ~warty :) and each release we get one step closer
[19:49] <HelpWithUbuntu> -=- o.O -=-
[19:49]  * mvo celebrates commit r400 of update-notifier
[19:49] <HelpWithUbuntu> -=- anyone available to help? -=-
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> ping tedg
[21:06] <tedg> chrisccoulson: Afternoon.
[21:07] <chrisccoulson> hi. i wanted to talk with you about laptop hotkeys and g-p-m
[21:08] <chrisccoulson> i've seen a few reports recently of suspend keys not working, and it appears to be because the xkeysym's which the suspend keys emit are not the one that g-p-m grabs
[21:08] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure whether g-p-m is meant to grab them or whether there is another issue
[21:08] <chrisccoulson> the keys that don't work emit XF86Standby, but g-p-m only grabs XF86Sleep
[21:45] <huats> seb128_: hey
[21:45] <seb128_> lut huats
[21:45] <huats> I have seen that there is a new gucharmap available
[21:46] <huats> that fixes something
[21:46] <seb128_> right
[21:46] <seb128_> intrepid is frozen though
[21:46] <huats> I can do the update, but in intrepid-proposed ?
[21:46] <seb128_> sure
[21:46] <seb128_> you know how to do a sru right?
[21:46] <huats> sure, it is about time for the freeze :)
[21:46] <huats> yep
[21:46] <huats> I will do it rigth now, (and finish it tomorrow I think)
[21:47] <huats> I'll ask you if I need anything ;)
[21:47] <seb128_> ok, no hurry I doubt intrepid-proposed uploads will be accept today or tomorrow
[21:48] <huats> I know :)
[21:48] <huats> but I don't do it right now, I might forget :)