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sadmac2Keybuk: this Garett Cooper guy looks like a pretty l33t h4x0r19:59
sadmac2he's totally spl0iting upstart19:59
ion_URL?20:00
sadmac2ion_: upstart mailing list20:00
ion_Alright20:01
KeybukI liked that he wrote it in the form of an exploit20:17
sadmac2Keybuk: connection troubles again?20:33
Keybukno20:34
KeybukKVM20:34
sadmac2Keybuk: ah20:34
sadmac2Keybuk: so the release is on Thursday, right?20:34
KeybukUbuntu?20:35
sadmac2Keybuk: yes20:36
sadmac2Keybuk: I assume that was the release that has had you scrambling?20:36
Keybukindeed20:36
sadmac2Keybuk: well I have a state machine prototype in a git repo. Expecting a few more tests from a colleague in a bit20:37
sadmac2Keybuk: also, I don't know if you ever found out yourself, but netstat uses /proc files. no netlink :(20:48
Keybuknetstat?20:48
sadmac2Keybuk: yes, I mentioned the idea of doing the expect listen feature without ptrace by simply watching netstat's source of information20:49
sadmac2which could still work, but will involve polling, or a hefty kernel patch to put inotify into some portions of proc20:49
sadmac2(I don't imagine Linus is eager to have that patch)20:49
ion_OTOH, polling /proc shouldn’t be too bad, should it? It isn’t real hardware IO anyway.20:55
sadmac2ion_: apparently /proc/mounts supports poll20:57
sadmac2ion_: in the man 2 poll sense of the word20:57
sadmac2..does that strike anyone else as strange?20:58
ion_Sorry, i meant rereading given /proc files periodically.,20:58
sadmac2ion_: yes, I know :)20:59
sadmac2I introduced the overloading20:59
sadmac2Keybuk: so yes, the info comes from /proc/net, which we could do something about in kernelspace (sounds like the prevailing interest is to get rid of non-process related /proc folders)21:20
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