[00:01] yep :) === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [01:58] has anyone tried the ubuntu "dust" gtk theme under xfce4? i did and found that only part of the theme seemed to apply - e.g. scrollbars look different but dialog boxes, buttons etc look like the gtk default!? [01:59] i have installed the murrine gtk engine, but perhaps not the right version? [02:12] how do you install and apply theme anyway? I get used to default. I used to be testing user interface and window manager settings from settings manager. Is that`s it? [02:12] phayz [02:15] you unpack a theme in .themes in your home dir and it shows up in settings manager - user interface [02:16] so do I ask questions about intrepid here or in the devel channel? [02:17] #ubuntu+1 [02:17] well [02:17] the xubuntu intrepid? [02:17] i believe so... [02:17] !intrepid [02:17] Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - WARNING: lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, NOT #ubuntu [02:17] on #ubuntu+1 [02:17] thanks [02:18] until final.. anyway :) [02:18] oh [02:18] so if i wait till thursday i can come back? [02:18] yup :))) [02:19] nikolam - sorry, i was away for a while (obviously) [02:20] phayz, never mind, favro explained it :) [02:21] so the bottom couple of rows on my desktop are shifted to the left about 50 pixels, what would the search term for that be in launchpad? [02:23] try to post a bug under ubuntu and then search for a graphics driver you use [02:24] any of you guys use the minimized application setting for xfdesktop? [02:30] rerobins: sorry, i don't quite understand your question [02:31] under the desktop icons setting in Desktop Preferences you can select minimized applications [02:31] was wondering if people used that [02:33] rerobins: ok, now i understand. i actually set this option to "nothing/none" (sorry, i can't remember exactly what it's named). i don't see the point of desktop icons because you have to get all the windows out of the way to see them [02:33] fair enough [02:34] do you use a task bar then? [02:35] rerobins: if you had a wide screen monitor, perhaps you could have xfce4 keep part of the desktop clear of windows. then you could have desktop icons in that section. [02:36] hi there I was usermodding my self to www-data group with usermod -G www-data $USER and I forgot the -a so now I am not in the admin group and I cannot sudo and the root account is disabled what can I do? [02:37] rerobins, I just dicovered that that option for desktop is existing. Interesting ;) Never used it.. reminds me on Windows 3.1 :) [02:37] rerobins, i use Task list in panel :) [02:37] ahh ok [02:39] kthakore, just boot and select p at grub screen. you will get root command line and then you can make new user or assign any privileges you want to yourself. [02:40] ubuntu is a workstation and as it is is much unsecure in that way by default install. [02:42] kthakore, it always help to make alternative account for yourself after install , with administrative privileges [02:42] kthakore2, also, root password could be set.. :) [02:42] * kthakore has quit ("Sanitarium Radio - \o/") [02:42] .. and grub secured so that noone can edit it on boot time.. etc.. [02:43] ah hh 10x favro [02:43] :) [02:44] favro, do you knew all those default security holes in default x/ubuntu install? [02:44] yep - I always give root a password [02:45] and securing grub? [02:46] favourite gtk theme? [02:46] with passwor for recovery mode, and changing boot options? [02:46] phayz, .. default.. i am lazy :) [02:46] nikolam: with a root password set I feel any attempts to do anything with grub would be limited [02:47] nikolam: that's cool. i'm yet to find my perfect gtk theme. [02:47] I use user interface > MurrinaStormCloud and Window Manager > Waza [02:47] recovery uses root access - that's why I set a password [02:48] favro, do you set your Bios NOT to boot from CD/USB? :) and password on bios? [02:48] nope [02:49] thats it. i come to you fith an usb and do all i want :) [02:49] bios settings are easy enough to change - just remove the battery [02:49] or cd :) [02:49] so compiz and xfce, a fun experiment or a waste of time? [02:49] yes but if coputer case is locked? :) [02:50] rerobins, .. it works :) [02:50] plenty on utube about xfce and compiz [02:50] .. i don`t know what`s the use but to impress yourself and someone else and have some fun.. but it works :) [02:51] but, it replaces the xf window manager right? [02:52] rerobins, yes, you got to start (alt+f2) metacity --replace i think.. [02:52] hmm [02:52] look at some tutorial about compiz first [02:52] no - compiz is a desktop environment - xfwm is a window manager - you can use xfwm with compiz but most use emerald [02:53] if you want to come back later to xfwm, you got to kill metacity first and then start xfwm4 [02:53] so when i ran compiz, and it replaced my decorations, it's really running emerald? [02:53] nikolam: where would i see "waza" on the 'net? [02:53] favro, Didn`t know that.. [02:53] if you installed emerald yep [02:53] waza is installed as default [02:54] metacity is gnomes' window manager [02:54] under window manager settings [02:54] i don't have either installed [02:54] did you have window titlebars in compiz? [02:55] so, favro emerald is thing for use with compiz.. but if I stay with xfwm4, how do i start compiz with it? [02:55] yea [02:55] that's what i want to know [02:55] cause right now i'm running a compiz-manager thing [02:55] err compiz-decorator [02:56] favro suggests emerald [02:56] I've never tried in xfce4 - there's sure to be a tute on the net [02:56] a tute? [02:56] tutorial [02:56] howto - tutorial [02:57] k [02:58] I was wondering.. is there anyone else but canonical that sells ubuntu support. But lower priced and so.. [02:58] !support [02:58] For alternative Xubuntu support options, please see http://xubuntu.org/help [02:58] dunno what's there [02:59] community :) [03:00] we :) [03:00] hehe [03:01] that website says to come here [03:02] lol [03:03] we should be payed.. web site is saying that! lol :) [03:05] there are bounties on the xubuntu website if you want to earn cash [03:06] i must have missed the link with $'s on it [03:06] you have to hunt [03:06] bounties :) [03:07] clever [03:07] that's what the site calls 'em :) [03:08] Ohh, the mighty , powerfull siite :) [03:08] yes, we should all worship it, and it's ability to link to other sites [03:10] :)) [03:13] so do any of you work on xubuntu, or are you all users? [03:16] i am an user [03:16] favro, please pay attention to worship yourself as an user ;) [03:17] there is also channel #xubuntu-offtopic [03:18] is that were I should be? [03:18] I don't think there's anyone around to complain [03:18] mmm .. not :) maybe.. yes... mm no :) [03:20] so, i'm trying to change my manager theme and i know I'm using gtk-window-decorator [03:20] how do i change it's settings [03:21] i'm sure i'm missing a program [03:24] why not use user interface in the settings manager? [03:24] only changes the colors [03:25] doesn't change the graphics [03:25] it is the theme you choose that does that afaik [03:26] so yes, i select redmond, and the borders turn blue [03:26] then i hit Crux [03:26] and they turn purple [03:26] but nothing else changes [03:27] what do you think should change? [03:27] well [03:27] if it's like gnome [03:27] don't they actually change styles and such? [03:27] like the Beos one makes it yellow and really short title bar [03:27] it changes here [03:28] ahh [03:28] the famous, works in my area line [03:29] you might not have a theme that changes much [03:29] well, it used to do it when I was using the xfwm4 thing, [03:30] ahh you're in compiz - k - you might need to ask in #compiz about that [03:30] ok [03:32] ok, boys [03:32] cul8r :) [03:38] <_kinch> I've installed compiz on xubuntu 8.04 [03:38] <_kinch> how can i make compiz auto start on login? [03:47] how is xfce starting up compiz everytime i reboot? [03:47] it's not in the autostart apps list [06:24] hi guys, will xub run fine in a pentium3 pc with 128mb ram? [06:54] be little slow but'll run - you'll need the alternate installer with so little ram [06:54] !alternate [06:54] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.1/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [07:31] anyone here using packagekit-gnome? Seems to error for me when launching === Rika|BBS is now known as Tokorona [09:27] Hello, I will test today the installation of Xubuntu 8.04 into a Old IBM Thinkpad600. I will let you know of the progression and problems found if any! Cheers, Pedrito [10:50] is xubuntu 8.10 going to be released on the 29th or the 30th? [10:51] !8.10 [10:51] Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - WARNING: lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, NOT #ubuntu [10:51] thx :) [10:51] any idea if the release candidate is going to be the final or will there be an update? [10:55] anyone up ? [10:59] no idea! [11:00] * mnemoc thinks everyone is sit [11:04] how can i get gimp 2.6 ? [11:05] probably waiting for 8.10 and installing it? [11:06] batcoder-7: many ways, you can download the source and compile it, you can look for a deb, you can install it from Intrepid's repos... [11:07] i prefer to not compile it myself === Rika is now known as Tokorona [11:09] hmmm [11:09] batcoder-7: getdeb.net [11:09] i mean i want to be able ot update my system etc [11:10] will doing this cause any conflicts ? [11:10] yu can compile it and install in your home directory, and then delete when you update to intrepid [11:10] just curious when is that going to be released ? [11:10] 30th [11:10] this month [11:10] so in 1 day ? [11:10] depends on timezone :) [11:11] usa east coast [11:11] oh, that's cool. [11:11] I'll be able to run update on my laptop tommorow. [11:11] .. well, Friday. [11:12] so really if i want gimp 2.6 i should just wait a day ? [11:12] will that be released with it ? [11:12] i am using i htink 8.10 now [11:12] 8.10 has gimp 2.6.3 [11:13] oh? [11:13] 2.6.1 [11:13] sorry [11:13] how do i find what version i am running ? [11:14] lost minimze,maximize and close on all/any windows...how do I getthem back? [11:15] i think i am running 8.10 [11:16] installing into IBM thinkpad600 error message: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 189790... [11:16] batcoder-7: apt-cache policy gimp [11:17] pedrito: physically damaged disk [11:17] installing into IBM thinkpad600 error message: SQUASHFS error [11:17] the hard disk? [11:17] pedrito: check your cd for defects [11:17] ok [11:17] thanks [11:17] i had the same error [11:17] pedrito: no idea what sr0 is [11:17] i used a different cd drive and it worked [11:17] prolly a messed up cd and the other one read it better [11:17] I will try a new CD. [11:18] TheSheep: Installed: 2.4.5-1ubuntu2 [11:18] Candidate: 2.4.5-1ubuntu2 [11:18] burn it with the slowest speed possible [11:18] i used 16x [11:18] batcoder-7: then it's not 8.10, probably 8.04 [11:18] I will try that solution... I have burn it at 8x... probably too fast for the CD-RW I am using currently [11:20] there is probably a simple fix to this [11:20] TheSheep: so in a day or so i can upgrade to 8.10 and yea it will have it ? [11:20] but I can't find it [11:21] batcoder-7: yes [11:21] ok [11:21] i will just wait then [11:21] just curious how do i upgrade ? [11:21] in a day or so i am new to xubuntu [11:22] alright gotta go, bbl [11:22] anybody in china [11:23] !zh | panmeng [11:23] panmeng: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [11:23] thank you [11:25] panmeng:HI [11:25] hi [11:51] does xubuntu come with alot of Gnome libs as well ? [12:05] will the new open office make it for the release tomorrow ? [12:16] hi :) [12:17] batcoder-7: it's in the repo [12:25] if you've disabled hal polling on a device with hal-disable-polling how do you reenable it ? [12:34] hello, what is the best browser for an old pc ( something light and fast) [12:36] lynx [12:36] notgood depends how light you need.... epiphany is good [12:37] rofl TheSheep , ok not so.. [12:37] if you need lighter, then fluxbuntu might be the os for you... it comes with super lightweight apps [12:37] MrNaz, actually I have to experience on epiphany nor skipstone. ( something between these two?) [12:38] epiphany with webkit might be good too [12:38] ok people thanks a lot. [12:38] midori is probably better than epiphany-webkit [12:38] epiphany-webkit cant even open new windows in tabs [14:31] How do I disable the touchpad on my eeepc so that I can type without having to worry about bumping it? (preferably a keyboard action to switch it on and off) [14:32] SkullJky: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/ [14:37] and I can't get mine working since I updated :\ [14:39] thx [14:56] \join #ubuntu [14:57] :P [14:57] heh [15:04] does xubuntu comes with software for using video capture devices? [15:05] no [15:05] Not by default I believe [15:05] you need to install it yourself [15:05] form the repositories [15:05] I need to test an analog pci capture card because it makes the kernel to crash with a another distro [15:06] that is already installed in the hdd [15:06] I'm now in livecd mode with xubuntu [15:06] You can install stuff while in LiveCD mode [15:06] It just won't be preserved [15:06] (After shutdown) [15:17] hmm, where can I enable the restricted drivers? [15:17] I had an icon before the last update, but after the reboot not anymore [15:18] iMax, applications->system->hardware drivers [15:18] iMax: system->hardware drivers [15:18] Or Restricted Drivers manager, depending on your Xubuntu version [15:18] the hardware drivers just tells me that there are no restricted drivers in use [15:19] and I do not seem to have a restricted drivers manager [15:19] But if any are available you can enable them there [15:19] Restricted Drivers Manager = Hardware Drivers [15:19] iMax: maybe they were inmplemented in the new kernel [15:19] It was renamed [15:19] vinnl: no, but I think there should be, because I had that icon in the panel [15:20] TheSheep: but shouldn't I see them anywhere? [15:20] iMax: them? [15:20] or the driver, sorry :) [15:20] iMax: which driver? [15:21] nvidia, iirc ... just installed it on some older server I have here [15:23] I'll probably just use synaptic and see where I end up :) [15:27] do I have to unmount manually paritions in xubuntu? If I try to unmount them from the partition manager they seem to be remounted instead [15:27] dissociative, you can disable automounting [15:27] ...using the "Removable Drives and Media" settings [15:28] <[1]masque7> uh my partitioner is stuck at 46% === [1]masque7 is now known as masque7 [15:28] For how long now/ [15:29] *? [15:29] 5+ mins [15:29] might reboot and try again [15:29] Oh, that should work out I guess [15:29] Is your internet connection working? [15:30] Well, I solved my avant window navigator problem in Xubuntu. Well,not really solved... [15:30] vinnl, my internet connection? [15:30] I'm using Cairo, however I had to download the one from the website, the one in the repos isn't built right. [15:31] masque7, yeah, I believe some people had troubles when installing with a failing internet connection configured (troubles in the sense that it paused for a while at a certain percentage) [15:31] That's all I know about it though [15:34] the installer is a bit opaque [15:41] vinnl: bit of a stretch over to the router [15:41] plus i don't have it in a case yet :P [15:41] :P [15:41] Is it still not continuing [15:41] *? [15:41] should be fine installing without an internet connection now [15:42] eh i rebooted [15:42] Ah :P [15:42] if it gets stuck on 46% again i'll either use the alt.cd or hook it into the router haha [15:42] hi. someone mentionned an alternative to network-manager the other day, something like "wsip" or something, but i can't find it in synaptic nor remember the correct name [15:43] wicd? [15:43] ah, that is it, thank you [15:43] np :) [15:44] not in synaptic though :-( [15:44] wormsxulla, see http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php [15:44] It has instructionsfor Ubuntu (which also apply to Xubuntu) [15:45] the capture cards seem to work without problems [15:46] \o/ [15:46] vinnl: thanks again [15:46] wormsxulla, sure thing :) [15:47] <[1]masque7> i don't think my little 1ghz duron can handle the livecd lol [15:51] is there a way to see if dri is working without glxinfo? [15:55] oops looks like I got a kernel crash too === [1]masque7 is now known as masque7 [16:10] anyone knows how can I limit the display refresh rate for all video modes without having to restart the X server, because I use 60Hz and when I run a game in fullscreen under wine the refresh rate changes to 85Hz and it gives me a different display geometry [16:11] dissociative: xrand maybe... [16:17] looks like xrandr cannot force a specific refresh rate [16:35] hello guys [16:45] how can i mount an iso, if while mounting i get an error of bad option, superblock, etc... [16:46] knome: then it's not an iso [16:46] TheSheep, but it is. i've ripped it with brasero from a cd [16:47] knome: what command did you use exactly? [16:47] TheSheep, mounting? mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mount/point [16:49] TheSheep, this is an audio cd with some kind of copy protection. [16:49] TheSheep, and a data track [16:51] ehh.... [16:51] this explains a lot [16:51] the iso file is 0 bits [16:51] wtf? [16:55] knome: audio cds don't have a filesystem on them [16:55] knome: you can't mount them [16:55] a-ha... even if they had a data track? [16:55] no idea [16:56] Xubuntu can be successfully installed in a IBM Thinkpad 600! The only hardware not recognized in the sound card, what is not a big deal. [16:56] Thanks for the help provided. [17:16] hi all [17:17] I installed the 8.10 on an eeepc 701 [17:17] but ... there are windows that simply are larger than the screen [17:17] and I can't resize them smaller [17:18] is there a way to resize them ? [17:18] aLeSD____, you can move them with alt+drag. you can also restrict the amount of underscores in your nick with /nick [17:19] lol === aLeSD____ is now known as aLeSD_ [17:19] ok [17:20] well ... knome do u know if ubuntu (with gnome ) resizes them automatically ? [17:20] I'm scared ... for the performace ... [17:20] i don't think it does. [17:20] ..mmm.. [17:21] ok ... just another question [17:21] I'd like xubuntu [17:21] but minimaler than it ... I mean no thunderbird, no abiword [17:21] is it possible ? [17:22] aLeSD_, you can use the minimal cd. [17:22] knome: is there for the rc ? [17:22] ? [17:22] the 8.10 is released tomorrow. you can wait the new minimal. [17:22] lol ... you right [17:23] knome thanks and bye [17:23] yw. [17:33] hey guys, Is there a planet for Xubuntu? something like ubuntuweblogs.org? [17:39] ramses-sv, i don't think there is. [17:39] ramses-sv, the xubuntu developers/committers don't write a lot of blogs currently/yet [17:41] :D thanks knome [17:44] knome, I'm subscribed to quite a few Xubuntu-related blogs :) [17:44] Though most are not that active... [17:44] vinnl, we might set up a list. [17:44] knome, I've made a Yahoo! Pipe :)\ [17:45] vinnl, i've also been thinking that i might set up my own, or write about xubuntu as part of my blog [17:45] knome, what's your blog> [17:45] *? [17:46] vinnl, http://knome.fi/ and partly http://alshain.fi/blogi but they're (still) both in finnish. [17:47] vinnl, after i have time to update them once again, i'll also write in english. [17:48] knome, if you create a separate feed for that, please ping me :) [17:49] i can create, once i've done updating [17:49] hi guys [17:49] hello. [17:49] !hi [17:49] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [17:49] :D [17:50] umm, I have a question about xubuntu.... [17:50] !ask [17:50] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [17:50] now, i haven't actually installed it yet, but I am planning to this weekend [17:50] :) [17:52] so, I was reading about adding commands and stuff on bootup [17:52] I was wondering how you get to access the screen that will allow you to do this on bootup? I can't see it mentioned anywhere on the help site...... [17:53] perhaps i've missed something really obvious though... [17:54] ILoveYouMan, what do you want to do that for? [17:54] Are they the commands for the LiveCD or for an installed system? [17:54] on the installed system [17:55] for example.....it says that on some power pc's that you may need to add a boot argument to get the graphics to be displayed properly [17:55] It depends on whether you have more OS's installed [17:57] how can I change the resolution of the login screen? [17:58] i'm going to be installing on a G4 iBook, so would I be correct in saying that dapper drake is the latest version that supports iBooks? [17:58] yotux, it should have the same resolution as when you are logged in? [17:58] yotux, coincidentally, you don't happen to just see the top left-hand corner? [17:58] ILoveYouMan, IIRC all do, but the latest unofficially [17:58] I have a buggy acer monitor native is 1440 x 900 the lcd is only taking 1280 x 800 [17:58] oh [17:59] I set the desktop to 1280 x 800 no the login screen sit sits at what I assume 1440 x 900 [18:00] do I have to play with the xorg.conf file? [18:00] vinnl I don't see the buttons on the bottom of the screen [18:00] vinn1 - I don't suppose that it would do any harm to see if I could get dapper drake up and running first then, if I wanted to, I could installed hardy heron after that? [18:00] yotux, and only part of the login box? [18:00] ILoveYouMan, sure, you can overwrite or upgrade immediately [18:01] no I see most of the login box [18:01] cool [18:01] I think that I'll do that then and see how I go [18:01] yotux, I'm not sure, but you might be experiencing a bug I experienced before as well [18:01]