rgreeningRiddell: I did a bzr commit for the changes to update-notifier-kde and bumped the changelog to 0.10. Can you check to see if it worked?00:00
a|wenubuntu: do you have a volume control in the systray (or what that thing is called)?00:01
rgreeninga|wen: kmix00:01
rgreeningubuntu: ^00:01
ubuntuthere is no volume control00:01
rgreeningrun kmix (ALT+F2) then type kmix and enter00:01
ubuntuI have run it00:02
rgreeningtry it from a konsole thwen and see if there are error messages00:02
Riddellrgreening: where did you commit to?00:02
ubuntuno errors00:03
ubuntufrom the console00:03
rgreeningRiddell: I have a bzr copy and did a bzr commit... guess I need to do something different...00:03
rgreeningdo I bzr merge?00:04
a|wenubuntu: sounds like your hardware wasn't recognized ... do you know what kind of sound hardware it is?00:04
Riddellrgreening: what does bzr info  say you have?00:04
rgreening1 sec00:04
rgreeningparent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ejr/adept/update-notifier-kde/00:04
ubuntuwait i check00:05
ubuntucan i launch some command too00:05
ubuntusee my hardware_00:05
Riddellrgreening: so you have a local branch and have committed locally00:06
Riddellrgreening: you now need to push it somewhere00:06
rgreeningI tried bzr merge00:06
Riddellrgreening: that'll bring in any updates from the URL above00:06
Riddellrgreening: but you need to push it somewhere00:06
rgreeningok. so, how do I push back to yours00:07
Riddellrgreening: so start with creating an update-notifier-kde product (dunno why I put it under adept, that was silly of me)00:07
a|wenubuntu: "lspci -v" in a terminal ... look down through the list00:07
rgreeningstart a new one?00:07
Riddellrgreening: https://launchpad.net/projects/+new-guided00:07
ubuntuI have a centrino 200:08
ubuntuBuilt-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex00:08
ubuntuBuilt-in speaker and microphone00:08
ubuntuBuilt-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex00:09
ubuntuBuilt-in speaker and microphone00:09
ubuntui-ve found it00:09
ubuntuBuilt-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex00:09
ubuntuBuilt-in speaker and microphone00:09
Riddellubuntu: this isn't the best channel for sound problems, not our speciality, best to submit a bug report on alsa and attach the output of dmesg00:09
ScottKJFTR our guidance-power-manager 4.1.2 claims it's 4.1.100:11
ubuntuINtel corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD audio controller00:11
ubuntui have another question00:12
a|wenubuntu: report it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+filebug ... include that kind of information, as well as dmesg output00:12
ubuntuevery time I start kubuntu00:13
ubuntuwhen I open menus00:13
rgreeningRiddell: https://launchpad.net/update-notifier-kde00:13
RiddellScottK: I never updated the version number in time, but I don't think there were significant changes00:14
ubuntuI see for an instant "the shadow" of the menu I m opening00:14
ubuntujust for one time00:14
ubuntuif I reopen it00:14
ubuntuit doesnt eppear anymore00:14
ubuntuappear anymore00:14
Riddellbug in oxygen theme that00:15
Riddellor X I guess depending on who you ask00:15
ScottKRiddell: No, I don't think there were.  More of a FYI.00:16
ubuntuit happens with every application00:17
ubuntualso kickoff00:17
RiddellScottK: I really wish there was a way to update version numbers automatically00:17
a|wenubuntu: it's a known problem ... see Riddell's comments00:17
* ScottK too (about version numbers)00:18
* ScottK usually updates the version string right after a release in svn so he doesn't forget later.00:18
ubuntuthank you00:19
ubuntuvery much for your help...and good work!00:19
a|wenthx ubuntu ... good luck with the ibex00:21
rgreeningRiddell: I subscribed you to that lp I created. Not sure I have everything done correctly. If you have a moment to look...00:22
Riddellrgreening: so you created a project?00:22
Riddellrgreening: done the push yet?00:22
rgreeningI gues it's correct.00:22
rgreeninghttps://code.launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/update-notifier-kde/trunk shows the code is there....00:23
Riddellrgreening: excellent00:23
rgreeningSO, I have much to read/learn about using lp for code... but it seems simple enough (at a first glance)00:24
Riddellrgreening: main thing with bzr is keeping track of what branch or checkout you're working on :)00:25
Riddellrgreening: you currently have a local branch so any more changed you'd need to bzr commit to commit locally then bzr push to push to launchpad00:25
Riddellrgreening: but you can also bzr checkout lp:~roderick-greening/update-notifier-kde/trunk  then you can commit straight back00:26
rgreeningok. I'll do the later.. testing it now.00:27
a|wenrgreening: if you've already downloaded a big branch using bzr branch you can "convert" it to a checkout using bxr branch00:28
a|wenbzr even00:28
a|wenbzr bind of course :)00:29
* a|wen is tired ... just finishing up todays last test00:29
Riddelldon't give up, DVDs still to come :)00:30
a|wenhe ... it's already past 1:30 in my tz, and needs to go to $work tomorrow00:31
rgreeningRiddell: what's the correct way to maze a tarball of the bzr src then for making a new deb00:31
a|wenrgreening: bzr export ~/myproject.tar.gz :)00:32
rgreeninga|wen: that's cool00:33
Riddellrgreening: no special way, mv trunk/.bzr dot-bzr; tar zcf foo.tar.gz trunk; mv dot-bzr trunk/.bzr00:33
Riddelloh well, a|wen knows better than me :)00:33
* a|wen has started using bzr for $education projects :)00:34
ScottK20081029.1 is the one we are meant to be testing now, right?00:34
RiddellScottK: yes please00:34
ScottKOK.  Got to get kids to bed first, but it's downloaded.00:34
rgreeninga|wen: omg that command rocks00:35
a|wenrgreening: functionality-wise bzr rocks00:36
rgreeningI'm beginning to see that00:36
voriansmooth install for meh00:37
rgreeningRiddell: I assume you'll make the other update-notifier-kde under adept go away?00:40
Riddellrgreening: I'll mark it as obsolete at some point00:41
Riddellrgreening: really we need a branch under ~kubuntu-members rather than under individual accounts00:41
rgreeningok, how do we move it then? or add it there?00:42
* rgreening == sponge00:42
* Arby launches one last test00:42
SocceroosRiddell: i386 CD worked well for me, didn't reformat the partition, and used the install now option.00:43
RiddellSocceroos: excellent, mind and record on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all00:43
Riddellrgreening: push to ~kubuntu-members00:43
SocceroosRiddell: ok00:43
a|wenvorian: cool, you remembered to report on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all too :)00:45
vorianoh yeah00:45
rgreeningRiddell: Ok, pushed to ~kubuntu-members00:50
rgreeningRiddell: Looks good to me. I updated the X-Vcs-Bzr in the control file as well. Yay \o/01:00
rgreeningRiddell: So, I'm going to head home. I'll rsync the DVD later and test it (are they out yet?)01:05
Riddellnot yet01:05
rgreeningok, I'll watch for them. thanks for the help01:06
SocceroosRiddell: what was the problem with the DVDs?01:16
RiddellSocceroos: only that they don't exist yet :)01:21
Socceroossoo, there wasn't any critical bug?01:23
RiddellSocceroos: there was an important bug in ubiquity, that's why we're doing all this last minute rebuilding and testing01:23
Riddell"cdimage  18019  0.0  0.0  10196  1388 pts/11   S+   01:02   0:00          \_ /bin/sh /home/cdimage/bin/buildlive kubuntu-dvd"  looks like they're in progress01:24
Arbytest coverage is looking pretty good now01:24
RiddellArby: that's what happens when we get our CDs made before ubuntu desktop ones :)01:25
Arbynice to see we get something first :P01:25
Arbyjust going to finish this last test then time for sleep01:26
Arbyunless there's any out standing cases01:26
ArbyI could launch one overnight01:26
arby-testinganother successful test01:28
* ScottK reboots to try Live CD01:29
Arbyright that's me done01:31
Arbygood night all01:31
Riddellnight Arby, thanks01:31
a|wenno more testing for me either ... night everyone01:36
ScottK-liveCDGood night.01:36
* ScottK-liveCD explores ironic testing by reading about MS maybe releasing a test version of Windows 7 while testing Kubuntu.01:40
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ScottK-liveCDIs Konqueror expected to work with flashplugin-nonfree?01:58
RiddellScottK-liveCD: yes, works for me01:59
ScottK-liveCDI tried it on cnn.com and no working.02:00
* ScottK-liveCD looks for another one.02:00
Riddellyoutube is a good test02:00
rgreeningcnn is a bad test02:00
RiddellScottK-liveCD: but you might need to scan for plugins manually and restart02:00
* ScottK-liveCD tries02:00
Riddell4:30 UTC estimated DVD time02:00
rgreeningcnn doesnt like us02:00
ScottK-liveCDDoes it matter if the base-files fix is installed to the live session before installing?02:05
ScottK-liveCDAfter scanning for plugins youtube admitted I had flash.02:06
ScottK-liveCDI think I'm not patient enough for doing Youtube on Live CD.02:06
* ScottK-liveCD is ready to declare victory.02:07
* ScottK-laptop marks down the test passed.02:10
ScottK-laptopI think that's about it for me.02:10
ScottK-laptopI'll be offline mostly tomorrow at $WORK meetings.02:10
ScottK-laptopHappy release day everyone.02:10
* rgreening thinks ScottK-laptop shoul dwait for the DVD and test with me. hahah02:10
* ScottK-laptop has to leave the house at 0430 local and drive three states away to be at an 0800 meeting.02:11
* rgreening takes it back02:12
ScottK-laptop... That I found out I was going to less than 24 hours ago.02:12
Riddell~twitter update last hour bug fixes ment ISO testing restarted, CDs done, DVDs still being made02:12
kubotustatus updated02:12
ScottK-laptopRiddell: I did try to follow to the link on adobe's web site and install flash using gebi.  It was really straightforward.02:14
ScottK-laptopI just had to pick I wanted the Ubuntu .deb.02:15
Riddelladobe: no longer totally incompetant with linux02:16
rgreeningnew slogan02:16
ScottK-laptopI see jono beat me to blogging about Stani (of Stani's Python Editor fame) winning the .nl competition for their new 5 eu coin.02:18
ScottK-laptopHe did the design all with FOSS stuff on Ubuntu.02:18
rgreeningRiddell: ScottK-laptop: I just uploaded a test build of update-notifier-kde to kubuntu testing ppa. I changed the KPassivePopup to KNotification (thanks jtechidna for some assistance/suggestions). I need some peeps the test/verify. It may need some additonal work/polish02:20
ScottK-laptoprgreening: OK.  Not tonight and when I do it, I'll grab the source and build it myself.02:20
ScottK-laptopI don't trust PPA repos until they are signed or someone convinces me DNS cache poisoning is fixed.02:21
Riddellrgreening: grab a screenshot and blog02:21
rgreeningsure thing...02:21
rgreeninghow do we sign PPA's (or can we)02:22
ScottK-laptopI am so totally out of touch.  I didn't even notice the world series was going on (baseball)02:22
RiddellPPAs have no signatures02:22
ScottK-laptoprgreening: You beat on Kiko until he fixes it.02:22
Riddellrgreening: make sure you add your blog to planet ubuntu first02:22
rgreening@ Riddell too bad. @ ScottK-laptop lol02:22
rgreeningme blog is dere02:23
RiddellScottK-laptop: is that the one with the very American definition of "world"? :)02:23
rgreeningI posted one the other day02:23
rgreeningAmericans and geography... hmmm...02:23
* rgreening hides02:24
ScottK-laptopRiddell: It is.  I didn't name it.02:24
ScottK-laptopAlthough there are Canadian teams in the league (or are there still, dunno) so it's not entirely US only.02:24
ScottK-laptoprgreening: I would agree that Americans tend to be more geographically ignorant than they should.02:26
* ScottK-laptop however, is not one of them.02:26
Riddellthat sounds like an invitation to test :)02:27
RiddellScottK-laptop: what's the capital of Australia?  and no wikipaedia!02:28
rgreeningIs it 'A'02:31
Riddellho ho02:32
* rgreening has a bad sanse of humor02:32
rgreeningan kant spel 4 beens02:32
rgreeningRiddell: update-notification-kde is only in intrepid, correct? or was it made available in Hardy02:35
Riddellrgreening: intrepid only02:35
rgreeningk. writing up my blog02:35
ScottKRiddell: Canberra.02:35
ScottKWhen I was in college I met a girl who was from Singapore.  As she wound up to explain where in the world that was because she was certain I wouldn't know, I said, "Oh, right next to the Straights of Malacca".02:37
* rgreening points at the Navy boy02:37
ScottKIt helps to have been a history buff growing up.02:39
* ScottK could really use that sematic file system just now.02:42
ScottKI need to find one slide out of a presentation I put toghether about 7 years ago and take it to the meeting tomorrow.02:42
ScottKGot it.02:45
RiddellScottK: just do a presentation on how cool plasmoids are02:49
ScottKThat's a little OT for the meeting in question, but I will show the slide on my KDE4 laptop....02:50
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | Only 1/2 day left! | Test test! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
Riddell02:51 < slangasek> the amd64 kubuntu-dvd livefs is finished; i386 will have started about the time I commented on the last one finishing, so eta on kubuntu dvds is 04:00 UTC02:57
Riddellan hour.  just time to go for a canoe02:57
rgreeningomg... http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ in FF.. shouldn't Kubuntu have a kubuntu default page for FF? lol03:18
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Riddellthat canal is mirror smooth, very pretty indeed03:43
Riddellrgreening: it would be nice to have the search box back in Konqueror's about page03:44
rgreeningI agree... I'll add it to my todo list :)03:45
rgreeningI just blogged...03:45
Riddellrgreening: what do you mean by "interactive"?03:49
rgreeningKNotifications can be clicked and have triggered actions03:50
rgreeningnot that I have any in there atm03:50
rgreeningpassive popups do not03:50
rgreeningomg.. that showed up horrible on planet compared to the original03:52
RiddellKubuntu DVDs are up! free hugs to all testers! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20081030/03:53
Riddell~twitter been out canoeing, DVDs now up for testing03:55
kubotuincorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter'03:55
Riddell~twitter update been out canoeing, DVDs now up for testing03:55
kubotustatus updated03:55
rgreeningRiddell: that post looks so bad on planet. I edited it on blogger. Will planet get an updated version?04:00
Riddellrgreening: yes, although it'll still do whatever html tidying it did before04:01
KDeskwhy is http://www.kubuntu.net/ still with the old look? Should it not be the same as the http://www.kubuntu.org ?04:02
RiddellKDesk: shows how often that domain is used :)04:03
rgreeningRiddell: yes, but I have fixed some of that (hopefully) by compromising on the pic on the left/right and changed the text to match.04:04
rgreeningsince planet doesn't support that04:05
rgreeningRiddell: I use kubuntu.net... about 50% of the time by mis-type... should we redir the main site from there?04:06
Riddellrgreening: yes, I've just filed a ticket to request that04:10
KDeskWhat happend firefox-qt? Will it be ready for FF3.1?04:11
rgreeningwiked. mind reading is a good skill04:11
RiddellKDesk: that's up to upstream04:11
rgreening~twitter update Cleaning up my todo list... removed 3 items out of 1204:12
kubotustatus updated04:12
KDeskaah, hopefully it is ready for 3.1 :-)04:12
rgreeningR-syncing DVD now to test...04:15
NCommanderhey Riddell04:22
Riddellmorning NCommander04:23
NCommanderRiddell, how goes it?04:24
RiddellDVDs needing testing04:24
NCommanderI can probably test the AMD64 one04:26
rgreeningyeah, and I'll get the i38604:27
rgreeningjust rsync-ing04:27
rgreeningit's at 37%04:28
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=== Socceroos_Intrep is now known as Socceroos
SocceroosRiddell: how are we looking for the ISO's?06:28
emonkeyGood morning everybody and just a little thank you from me to all of you. I'm sure we'll have a nice release today. Thanks for alle the efforts.06:31
BernhardRodeHi, I just wanted to thank you for the great RC. Yesterday, I installed it on my Lenovo T61. The installation did work without a clue. Only the Add Language dialog and the Non-Free Hardware Driver tools crashed ... after they finished their job. So everythings works great. Thank you.07:22
dwidmann_laptopooh, good, the url I was about to ask for is in the topic :)07:27
Tonio_alleeHol: hey :)10:06
Tonio_may I bug you just a second ?10:06
alleeHolTonio_: Hi, how's it going?10:07
alleeHolyes, ask10:07
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* smarter waves11:07
smarterare we there yet? :]11:07
* davmor2 slaps smater sorry the bot made me do it11:10
davmor2smarter: ^ even11:11
Riddellmorning friends, are we excited today?11:24
smarterof course we are :p11:25
echidnamangooooood morning11:39
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_Sime_ok, so today is the big-ish day.11:42
Hobbseeyes, Riddell's getting married.  Who's the best man?11:42
_Sime_his job I'm guessing. ;-)11:42
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Nearly there! | Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs
Riddell~twitter update fell asleep around 6 in the morning, feels like a good day to do a distro release11:50
kubotuhowdy, Riddell11:50
kubotustatus updated11:50
Socceroos_homeRiddell: all the ISO's are tested now?11:52
Riddellhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all is looking good11:52
rgreening~twitter update Intrepid is here... waiting for bug reports...11:58
kubotustatus updated11:58
rgreening\o/ \o/ \o/11:58
rgreeningmorning Riddell and friends12:00
JontheEchidnargreening: mornign12:00
JontheEchidna~facts about coffee12:00
kubotuI know nothing about coffee12:00
JontheEchidna~order coffee12:00
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to JontheEchidna.12:00
JontheEchidnathe bug tracker is so quiet this morning12:10
Riddellno bugs left, they've all been fixed12:14
JontheEchidnathat's what I'm hoping :]12:14
rgreeningJontheEchidna: bug 290717... It doesn't crash for me either. In users backtrace, nothing stood out to me...12:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290717 in kdebase "Dolphin crashes when path contains two slashes behind each other" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29071712:20
JontheEchidnayeah, that's the thing12:21
JontheEchidnawell, there aren't any debug symbols so there's nothing that could jump out at us12:22
rgreeningIm going to suggest some stuff... which dbg package would be necessary12:24
JontheEchidnaI commented requesting him to install kdebase-dbg12:24
RiddellHobbsee: simon__ needs kicked from #ubuntu12:25
HobbseeRiddell: hmm, he left before i saw anything from him12:26
rgreeningJontheEchidna: I never saw it.. (never refreshed page) and added a similar comment... lol... doh12:29
rgreeningYou should be able to edit your post to LP12:30
rgreening~order breakfast12:37
* kubotu slides a cigarette, a cup of hot coffee and a bagel with cream cheese down the bar to rgreening.12:37
rgreeningmmmm... breakfast of champions12:37
rgreeningJontheEchidna: bug 291064.. I can't reproduce. how bout you?12:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291064 in kdebase-kde4 "SIGSEGV 11, crash during deleting files from fish protocol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29106412:41
jjessetoday is the big day right?12:42
Riddelljjesse: yep, today is when we start on jaunty :)12:43
JontheEchidnargreening: I don't have the setup to test fish I don't think12:44
jjessecongrats again gang on the release12:44
jjesseit rocks on my dell 912:44
JontheEchidnaor at least, I don't know how to12:44
jjessefor those of you going to UDS i will be bringing it so you can see how it works/l0ooks12:44
rgreeningJontheEchidna: Got any ssh account? fish is just a gui based ssh12:45
JontheEchidnanope, that's the thing12:45
rgreeningah. ok then. :)12:46
hungerRiddell: Are the jaunty repositories open yet? Or are you doing conceptional work only at this time?12:47
rgreeningThis one is strange... bug 29098912:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290989 in kdebase-workspace "KDE4 sensitive to /tmp space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29098912:47
JontheEchidnayeah, no clue what they're talking about12:48
JontheEchidnahunger: the jaunty repos aren't open yet12:48
hungerJontheEchidna: Thought so:-(12:49
* hunger hates the time between beta 1 and the opening of the repos for the next version.12:49
hungerSoooo boring. Nothing breaks:-)12:50
Riddellhunger: not yet open, usually it takes a day or two of tollchain setup anyway12:51
hungerRiddell: I know:-( I was just developing some hope since you mentioned to be working on jaunty already.12:51
hungerI guess I can at least activate the backport repos then:-)12:52
Riddell4.1.3 should appear for packaging today12:52
hungerNew OOo version is out, too.12:54
JontheEchidnamy CPU fan is already whining at me^12:54
hungerOf course git is extremly outdated in ubuntu.12:54
JontheEchidnabut that's because ktorrent is taking 340 MB RAM o.o12:54
jjesseto install open office 3 how would i do it?12:55
jjessewow start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ is nice12:58
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_gunni_jjesse: For OOo 3 you can look at a ppa https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive13:14
rgreeningRiddell: what's the process to start packaging 4.1.3 (I came in rather late in 4.1.2 last time).13:16
hungerkbluetooth is broken:-( Can't find any device, even though gnome apps find several.13:28
Riddellhunger: yeah, known problem, it got broken by a late bluez update13:29
Riddellwe'll do an update of solid-bluez when there's something working13:29
Riddellwho has bandwidth?  torrents need seeding13:34
* Riddell eyes up seaLne 13:35
xerosisis the kubuntu wiki working for anyone?13:38
Riddellit might be a bit overloaded13:39
seaLneRiddell: currently downloading will seed when finished13:46
ryanakcaRiddell: at school, but anything to do for the website?14:04
Riddellryanakca: don't think so, unless you want to add a screenshots page14:05
ryanakcaRiddell: ok, I'll try to work on that between assigned tasks14:05
ryanakcas/assigned tasks/assignements/g14:06
JontheEchidnaRiddell: zomg, it's out14:11
JontheEchidnacan I hit the jolly, shiny, candy-like publish button on the news story now?14:12
RiddellJontheEchidna: go for it!14:13
davmor2congrats everyone it's out14:13
RiddellJontheEchidna: remove RC from masterhead and update link too14:14
JontheEchidnahow do I do that?14:15
* JontheEchidna isn't familiar with drupal14:16
JontheEchidnaDIGG IT; http://digg.com/linux_unix/Kubuntu_8_10_Released_refreshes_the_desktop14:16
ryanakcaJontheEchidna: Go to the admin, edit the masthead block.14:19
davmor2Riddell: that digg link hooks into this page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release note the title at the top ;)14:20
JontheEchidnadavmor2: working on it14:20
JontheEchidnadavmor2: fixed14:21
RiddellJontheEchidna: title is too long s/Released/Out/14:22
Riddellin masterhead14:22
JontheEchidnaGreat work guys :]14:23
Arby\\o \\o \\o14:24
Arbyo// o// o//14:24
Riddellgroup hug!14:24
Riddellyou all rock!14:24
* JontheEchidna dances14:25
* Riddell ceilidhs14:26
ryanakca*sigh*, after the announcement, the left sidebar moves into the middle of the screen in IE614:26
* rgreening sings.... breaks all the windows...14:26
rgreening\o/ /o\ \o/14:27
ryanakcaJontheEchidna: did you get the masthead?14:29
Riddellpeople still use IE 614:29
JontheEchidnaryanakca: yeah14:29
ryanakcaRiddell: my school does :/14:29
ryanakcaJontheEchidna: *patiently waits for the cache to get updated*14:30
JontheEchidnacan we get the #kubuntu topic changed?14:30
JontheEchidnaoh, nvm14:30
JontheEchidnaalready changed ;-)14:30
rgreeningRiddell: any changes from the DVD last night to todays release?14:30
Tm_Thttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download <-- KDE3 mentioned?14:34
Riddellrgreening: nope14:35
RiddellTm_T: fixed, waiting cache update14:35
rgreeningkool. I'll burn it14:35
rgreeningand re-install clean (I think)14:35
Tm_TRiddell: great, thanks14:35
JontheEchidnaso who's gonna submit a story to the Dot?14:40
rgreeninghere's a question, how do I export my Kmail mail (or what do I need to backup to keep my mail)? If anyone knows...14:42
RiddellJontheEchidna: a volunteer!14:42
JontheEchidnaI'll do it in a bit14:42
* JontheEchidna has to go14:52
JontheEchidnabbl, and congrats again everyone14:53
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vorianyay! congrats all \o/14:59
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nixternalhey everyone, a big congrats to all of you this go round. I wish I could have been more active this time around and look forward to working with everyone in Jaunty!15:25
nixternalCongrats again! Job well done!15:25
mvoRiddell:  could you please have a look at bug #29111515:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291115 in update-manager "Kubuntu Update Manager crash problem with Turkish language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29111515:28
Riddellmvo: yeah, just been helping him15:28
RiddellI think it's a turkish only isue15:29
mvoRiddell: breakage in the translation? not utf-8?15:29
Riddellmvo: breakage in pykde probably, still looking15:29
mvothanks Riddell15:30
RiddellI wonder which important people I left out of http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/372915:39
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rgreeningmvo: poke16:08
rgreeningRiddell: nice post :) Just call me Mr Fixit.16:10
rgreeningRiddell: a|wen?16:11
rgreeningmvo: so, working on apt fix for SRU? Do you need me to do anything with it?16:12
vorianrgreening: mrfixit16:12
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vorianMrFixit: now /msg nickserv group16:13
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rgreeningapparantly already registered16:13
vorianoh well16:13
rgreeningThe most fun is getting broken things to work... that's why I am loving this so much16:14
* rgreening needs to get my karma into 4 digits...16:16
mvorgreening: oh, right. sorry was busy with something else, all you need to do is to write a testcase in the bugreport16:20
rgreeninggot any example/template or should I wing it? and do it in the bug that I put the patch on? or a new bug?16:21
stdinI'm looking at bug #290589 and I think this edit should fix it http://pastebin.com/d7d63b982 - any feedback before I attach to the bug?16:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290589 in kdelibs "Long dbus command displayed on dialog when trying to mount hard drive via dolphin" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29058916:22
Riddellryanakca: how about a link to http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Kubuntu%208.10%20Intrepid%20Ibex somewhere prominant?16:24
KDeskMy Plasma has crashed without doing anything, has it a log to look at?16:41
Riddell~twitter update Kubuntu 8.10 is out, see kubuntu.org for download/upgrade16:44
kubotustatus updated16:44
hungerkongrats to the release!16:48
Riddellthanks hunger!16:50
RiddellKDesk: check /var/crash16:51
KDeskRiddell: It is empty16:52
KDeskthere is something in .xsession-errors16:54
RiddellJontheEchidna: looks like the dot story got published17:02
KDeskWhy are the -kde4 (like digikam-kde4) packages removed from the repo?17:41
rgreeningthe kde4 version is broken17:42
Riddellit was an early beta17:42
Riddellnewer one is probably in the ~kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa17:42
* Nightrose hands out cookies to everyone17:46
Nightrosenice work folks :)17:46
Nightrosekubotu: party17:46
Nightroseapachelogger: kubotu can't party?17:47
Nightroseew ew ew17:47
rgreening~order a round of drinks17:47
* kubotu slides a round of drinks down the bar to rgreening17:47
rgreeningdam... I'm gonna get drunk17:47
Nightrosergreening: our little insanity can party like no other - i hoped kubotu can do that as well :/17:47
rgreening~order wine for Nightrose17:48
* kubotu pours Nightrose a delicious glass from the channel's wine cellar.17:48
Nightrose:) thx17:48
RiddellNightrose: this is a more refined channel than those amarok ones :)17:58
Nightrosei see17:58
emonkeyWe've got a big party tonight at our university, the party of the bachelors, I'll drink some beer in cheers of you all. BIG THANKS and cheers!17:58
NightroseRiddell: but the twitter fewer spilled over :P17:59
Riddellit's quite a nice interface to titte17:59
Nightrosei fear we infected kubuntu with that17:59
apacheloggerNightrose: the twittering is also more refined18:14
apachelogger~topic del 118:18
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apachelogger~topic learn18:18
kubotuokay then :)18:18
apachelogger~topic replace Kubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex Released- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release18:19
=== kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | | | | | | | | Intrepid Ibex Released- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release
apachelogger~topic set Kubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex Released- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release18:19
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apacheloggerthere we go :D18:19
rgreeningmvo.. where'd ya go.. oh no... :)18:27
yuriyand it's out... congratulations everyone! great job!18:29
yuriynice article on the site too18:38
jussi01mrgh... my nvidia settings is playing up - ever since i change which side each monitor is... are there known issues with nvidia settings?19:03
pthulinhi! Have anyone had any luck trying out the preview release of Qt 4.5 yet?19:15
jjesseis there a reason my windows don20:05
jjessedang it20:05
jjesseis there a reason my windows don't save size when i restart?20:06
jjesseam i missing something stupdi?20:06
smarterjjesse: I think this is due to the kwinrulesrc shipped with kubuntu-default-settings20:13
smarterbut I thought it had been solved20:14
smarterseele, Riddell: ^ ?20:14
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rgreeningsmarter: I think the patch explicitly said forget changes due to the resizing issues....20:18
rgreeningjjesse ^20:18
Riddellit probably will keep the size, there wasn't time to change it20:18
Riddelland the correct way removes the maximise button for no reason20:18
rgreeningit was stolen by the autobots20:19
KDeskI also think this is a bad config. I have delete all thouse rules (but not the one for focuse).20:22
DaskreecHHooray Ibex is out!! :)20:26
DaskreecHGrats all!20:26
xerosisif a screen fails to unlock would that be a kwin problem or something in the backend?20:31
ryanakcaRiddell: should I just append the codingstudio link to http://www.kubuntu.org/tour ?20:45
DaskreecHHmm am I missing something for the searchbar in konqueror?20:46
Riddellryanakca: good plan20:51
smarterDaskreecH: konqueror-plugin-searchbar ?20:51
smarteroh, http://discover.kde.org is nice20:53
DaskreecHalready installed20:53
smarter"[text: blurb about usability]" << but unfinished :P20:53
DaskreecHsmarter: plus the front page says 4.0 coming soon20:55
smarteryup, it needs s/4.0/4.1/g and updated screenshots20:56
DaskreecHsmarter: just having the plugin installed should be all I can't flip it off in Konqueror settings ?20:59
smarterDaskreecH: Settings --> Configure extensions maybe20:59
DaskreecHNope :-( It's enabled everywhere I can think of. It only affects the location toolbar right?21:01
smarterthink so21:03
ryanakcaHmmm... would a few pixels padding between the screenshot and 'out' in the masthead be nice?21:04
JontheEchidnayeah, it would look better21:05
ryanakcaJontheEchidna: look better? (might have to go to www-admin to see)21:09
JontheEchidnaryanakca: yes, much better21:10
ArbyJontheEchidna: what do you think to bug 290607 ?21:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290607 in kdebase "Missing entries for keyboard shortcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29060721:23
ArbyAre those options actually supposed to be there?21:23
JontheEchidnaI'm assuming they were in there in KDE3, so a wishlist + upstream report would be needed21:24
* JontheEchidna exercises dog for 15 mins21:24
ArbyJontheEchidna: I'm not sure if the behaviour has just changed, you can set the options he asks for by right clicking on the corresponding menu items.21:24
Riddell4.1.3 up!22:05
KDeskRiddell: Do you build the packages manually? One per one?22:07
KDeskHow many people are you building packages?22:11
Riddellthree or four usually22:11
Riddellwant to help?22:11
KDeskaah, also, will the 4.1.3 packages get into Intrepid as update?22:11
Riddellyes should do22:12
KDeskRiddell: hmm, I would like, but I don't know how to do that. Is there a manual for that?22:12
Riddellin theory https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PackagingGuide should tell you22:13
Riddellbut I think it's not as good as it should be22:14
KDeskRiddell: I will read that and do some practice, and if I have time I will come here back :)22:15
Riddellthere's also http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/packaging-presentation.pdf  and even http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwTp1YnehoI22:16
KDeskRiddell: thanks for the links :)22:20
xerosisRiddell: when does packaging start?22:21
Riddellxerosis: right about now, want to help?22:31
xerosisRiddell: sure, I've only got as far as debuilder though, not used pbuilder22:31
SiNiESTrOwhat's revu?22:33
apacheloggerSiNiESTrO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU22:35
* DaskreecH waves at Hobbsee 22:50
Hobbseeheya DaskreecH!22:51
nixternaldid base-files break stuff today?22:52
nixternal[rpm] error: File /home/rjohnson/cleversafe/svn/swdev_mgmt/trunk/driveswap/output/build/SOURCES/dsnet-driveswap-1.0.tar.gz: No such file or directory22:52
DaskreecHHobbsee: How are you?22:53
nixternalthere is a such file or directory22:53
HobbseeDaskreecH: enjoying watching seeding22:53
DaskreecHHa ha That's a new one on me for hobbies22:54
reisihmm just noticed; my laptops keyboard doesn't work after resuming from suspend2ram, it works in the console though.. can anyone remember reports of this?23:15
reisiit doesn't work in X in any way other than triggering virtual terminal change (alt+f-keys), mouse does work though23:16
reisii guess it's a bit late for 8.10 :)23:16
JontheEchidnaI told pbuilder to get stuff from nl.archive, not us.archive23:27

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