[00:00] Riddell: I did a bzr commit for the changes to update-notifier-kde and bumped the changelog to 0.10. Can you check to see if it worked? [00:01] ubuntu: do you have a volume control in the systray (or what that thing is called)? [00:01] a|wen: kmix [00:01] no [00:01] ubuntu: ^ [00:01] there is no volume control [00:01] run kmix (ALT+F2) then type kmix and enter [00:02] I have run it [00:02] try it from a konsole thwen and see if there are error messages [00:02] rgreening: where did you commit to? [00:03] mmh [00:03] no errors [00:03] from the console [00:03] Riddell: I have a bzr copy and did a bzr commit... guess I need to do something different... [00:04] do I bzr merge? [00:04] ubuntu: sounds like your hardware wasn't recognized ... do you know what kind of sound hardware it is? [00:04] rgreening: what does bzr info say you have? [00:04] 1 sec [00:04] parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ejr/adept/update-notifier-kde/ [00:05] mmh [00:05] wait i check [00:05] can i launch some command too [00:05] see my hardware_ [00:06] rgreening: so you have a local branch and have committed locally [00:06] rgreening: you now need to push it somewhere [00:06] ok... [00:06] I tried bzr merge [00:06] rgreening: that'll bring in any updates from the URL above [00:06] rgreening: but you need to push it somewhere [00:06] right... [00:07] ok. so, how do I push back to yours [00:07] rgreening: so start with creating an update-notifier-kde product (dunno why I put it under adept, that was silly of me) [00:07] ubuntu: "lspci -v" in a terminal ... look down through the list [00:07] start a new one? [00:07] rgreening: https://launchpad.net/projects/+new-guided [00:08] I have a centrino 2 [00:08] Built-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex [00:08] Built-in speaker and microphone [00:09] Built-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex [00:09] Built-in speaker and microphone [00:09] excuse [00:09] i-ve found it [00:09] Built-in Azalia compliant audio chip, with 3D effect & full duplex [00:09] Built-in speaker and microphone [00:09] ubuntu: this isn't the best channel for sound problems, not our speciality, best to submit a bug report on alsa and attach the output of dmesg [00:11] JFTR our guidance-power-manager 4.1.2 claims it's 4.1.1 [00:11] INtel corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD audio controller [00:12] ok [00:12] i have another question [00:12] ubuntu: report it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+filebug ... include that kind of information, as well as dmesg output [00:13] every time I start kubuntu [00:13] when I open menus [00:13] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/update-notifier-kde [00:14] ScottK: I never updated the version number in time, but I don't think there were significant changes [00:14] I see for an instant "the shadow" of the menu I m opening [00:14] just for one time [00:14] if I reopen it [00:14] it doesnt eppear anymore [00:14] appear anymore [00:15] bug in oxygen theme that [00:15] or X I guess depending on who you ask [00:16] Riddell: No, I don't think there were. More of a FYI. [00:17] it happens with every application [00:17] also kickoff [00:17] ScottK: I really wish there was a way to update version numbers automatically [00:17] ubuntu: it's a known problem ... see Riddell's comments [00:18] * ScottK too (about version numbers) [00:18] * ScottK usually updates the version string right after a release in svn so he doesn't forget later. [00:19] ok [00:19] thank you [00:19] very much for your help...and good work! [00:21] thx ubuntu ... good luck with the ibex [00:22] Riddell: I subscribed you to that lp I created. Not sure I have everything done correctly. If you have a moment to look... [00:22] rgreening: so you created a project? [00:22] rgreening: done the push yet? [00:22] yeah.. [00:22] I gues it's correct. [00:22] :) [00:23] https://code.launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/update-notifier-kde/trunk shows the code is there.... [00:23] rgreening: excellent [00:24] SO, I have much to read/learn about using lp for code... but it seems simple enough (at a first glance) [00:25] rgreening: main thing with bzr is keeping track of what branch or checkout you're working on :) [00:25] rgreening: you currently have a local branch so any more changed you'd need to bzr commit to commit locally then bzr push to push to launchpad [00:26] rgreening: but you can also bzr checkout lp:~roderick-greening/update-notifier-kde/trunk then you can commit straight back [00:27] ok. I'll do the later.. testing it now. [00:28] rgreening: if you've already downloaded a big branch using bzr branch you can "convert" it to a checkout using bxr branch [00:28] bzr even [00:28] cool [00:29] bzr bind of course :) [00:29] * a|wen is tired ... just finishing up todays last test [00:30] don't give up, DVDs still to come :) [00:31] he ... it's already past 1:30 in my tz, and needs to go to $work tomorrow [00:31] Riddell: what's the correct way to maze a tarball of the bzr src then for making a new deb [00:32] rgreening: bzr export ~/myproject.tar.gz :) [00:33] a|wen: that's cool [00:33] ty [00:33] o/ [00:33] rgreening: no special way, mv trunk/.bzr dot-bzr; tar zcf foo.tar.gz trunk; mv dot-bzr trunk/.bzr [00:33] oh well, a|wen knows better than me :) [00:33] lol [00:34] * a|wen has started using bzr for $education projects :) [00:34] 20081029.1 is the one we are meant to be testing now, right? [00:34] ScottK: yes please [00:34] OK. Got to get kids to bed first, but it's downloaded. [00:35] a|wen: omg that command rocks [00:36] rgreening: functionality-wise bzr rocks [00:36] I'm beginning to see that [00:37] smooth install for meh [00:38] 86_64 [00:40] Riddell: I assume you'll make the other update-notifier-kde under adept go away? [00:41] rgreening: I'll mark it as obsolete at some point [00:41] rgreening: really we need a branch under ~kubuntu-members rather than under individual accounts [00:42] ok, how do we move it then? or add it there? [00:42] * rgreening == sponge [00:42] * Arby launches one last test [00:43] Riddell: i386 CD worked well for me, didn't reformat the partition, and used the install now option. [00:43] Socceroos: excellent, mind and record on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [00:43] rgreening: push to ~kubuntu-members [00:43] Riddell: ok [00:45] vorian: cool, you remembered to report on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all too :) [00:45] oh yeah [00:46] :) [00:50] Riddell: Ok, pushed to ~kubuntu-members [01:00] Riddell: Looks good to me. I updated the X-Vcs-Bzr in the control file as well. Yay \o/ [01:02] great [01:05] Riddell: So, I'm going to head home. I'll rsync the DVD later and test it (are they out yet?) [01:05] not yet [01:06] ok, I'll watch for them. thanks for the help [01:16] Riddell: what was the problem with the DVDs? [01:21] Socceroos: only that they don't exist yet :) [01:23] Ah... [01:23] soo, there wasn't any critical bug? [01:23] Socceroos: there was an important bug in ubiquity, that's why we're doing all this last minute rebuilding and testing [01:24] "cdimage 18019 0.0 0.0 10196 1388 pts/11 S+ 01:02 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /home/cdimage/bin/buildlive kubuntu-dvd" looks like they're in progress [01:24] test coverage is looking pretty good now [01:25] Arby: that's what happens when we get our CDs made before ubuntu desktop ones :) [01:25] nice to see we get something first :P [01:26] just going to finish this last test then time for sleep [01:26] unless there's any out standing cases [01:26] I could launch one overnight [01:28] o/ [01:28] another successful test [01:29] * ScottK reboots to try Live CD [01:31] right that's me done [01:31] good night all [01:31] night Arby, thanks [01:36] no more testing for me either ... night everyone [01:36] Good night. [01:40] * ScottK-liveCD explores ironic testing by reading about MS maybe releasing a test version of Windows 7 while testing Kubuntu. === Socceroos is now known as Socceroos_away [01:58] Is Konqueror expected to work with flashplugin-nonfree? [01:59] ScottK-liveCD: yes, works for me [02:00] I tried it on cnn.com and no working. [02:00] * ScottK-liveCD looks for another one. [02:00] youtube is a good test [02:00] cnn is a bad test [02:00] ScottK-liveCD: but you might need to scan for plugins manually and restart [02:00] * ScottK-liveCD tries [02:00] 4:30 UTC estimated DVD time [02:00] cnn doesnt like us [02:05] Does it matter if the base-files fix is installed to the live session before installing? [02:06] After scanning for plugins youtube admitted I had flash. [02:06] I think I'm not patient enough for doing Youtube on Live CD. [02:07] * ScottK-liveCD is ready to declare victory. [02:10] * ScottK-laptop marks down the test passed. [02:10] I think that's about it for me. [02:10] I'll be offline mostly tomorrow at $WORK meetings. [02:10] Happy release day everyone. [02:10] * rgreening thinks ScottK-laptop shoul dwait for the DVD and test with me. hahah [02:11] * ScottK-laptop has to leave the house at 0430 local and drive three states away to be at an 0800 meeting. [02:12] ouch [02:12] * rgreening takes it back [02:12] ... That I found out I was going to less than 24 hours ago. [02:12] lol [02:12] ~twitter update last hour bug fixes ment ISO testing restarted, CDs done, DVDs still being made [02:12] status updated [02:14] Riddell: I did try to follow to the link on adobe's web site and install flash using gebi. It was really straightforward. [02:15] I just had to pick I wanted the Ubuntu .deb. [02:16] adobe: no longer totally incompetant with linux [02:16] new slogan [02:18] I see jono beat me to blogging about Stani (of Stani's Python Editor fame) winning the .nl competition for their new 5 eu coin. [02:18] He did the design all with FOSS stuff on Ubuntu. [02:20] nice [02:20] Riddell: ScottK-laptop: I just uploaded a test build of update-notifier-kde to kubuntu testing ppa. I changed the KPassivePopup to KNotification (thanks jtechidna for some assistance/suggestions). I need some peeps the test/verify. It may need some additonal work/polish [02:20] rgreening: OK. Not tonight and when I do it, I'll grab the source and build it myself. [02:20] lol [02:21] I don't trust PPA repos until they are signed or someone convinces me DNS cache poisoning is fixed. [02:21] rgreening: grab a screenshot and blog [02:21] sure thing... [02:22] how do we sign PPA's (or can we) [02:22] I am so totally out of touch. I didn't even notice the world series was going on (baseball) [02:22] PPAs have no signatures [02:22] ah [02:22] rgreening: You beat on Kiko until he fixes it. [02:22] rgreening: make sure you add your blog to planet ubuntu first [02:22] @ Riddell too bad. @ ScottK-laptop lol [02:23] me blog is dere [02:23] :) [02:23] ScottK-laptop: is that the one with the very American definition of "world"? :) [02:23] I posted one the other day [02:23] Americans and geography... hmmm... [02:24] * rgreening hides [02:24] Riddell: It is. I didn't name it. [02:24] Although there are Canadian teams in the league (or are there still, dunno) so it's not entirely US only. [02:26] rgreening: I would agree that Americans tend to be more geographically ignorant than they should. [02:26] * ScottK-laptop however, is not one of them. [02:27] that sounds like an invitation to test :) [02:28] ScottK-laptop: what's the capital of Australia? and no wikipaedia! [02:31] lol [02:31] Is it 'A' [02:31] :) [02:32] ho ho [02:32] * rgreening has a bad sanse of humor [02:32] s/sanse/sense [02:32] an kant spel 4 beens [02:35] Riddell: update-notification-kde is only in intrepid, correct? or was it made available in Hardy [02:35] rgreening: intrepid only [02:35] k. writing up my blog [02:35] Riddell: Canberra. [02:37] When I was in college I met a girl who was from Singapore. As she wound up to explain where in the world that was because she was certain I wouldn't know, I said, "Oh, right next to the Straights of Malacca". [02:37] lol [02:37] * rgreening points at the Navy boy [02:37] :P [02:39] It helps to have been a history buff growing up. [02:42] * ScottK could really use that sematic file system just now. [02:42] I need to find one slide out of a presentation I put toghether about 7 years ago and take it to the meeting tomorrow. [02:45] Got it. [02:49] ScottK: just do a presentation on how cool plasmoids are [02:50] That's a little OT for the meeting in question, but I will show the slide on my KDE4 laptop.... === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs | Only 1/2 day left! | Test test! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [02:57] 02:51 < slangasek> the amd64 kubuntu-dvd livefs is finished; i386 will have started about the time I commented on the last one finishing, so eta on kubuntu dvds is 04:00 UTC [02:57] an hour. just time to go for a canoe [03:18] omg... http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ in FF.. shouldn't Kubuntu have a kubuntu default page for FF? lol === Socceroos_away is now known as Socceroos [03:43] that canal is mirror smooth, very pretty indeed [03:44] rgreening: it would be nice to have the search box back in Konqueror's about page [03:45] I agree... I'll add it to my todo list :) [03:45] I just blogged... [03:49] rgreening: what do you mean by "interactive"? [03:50] KNotifications can be clicked and have triggered actions [03:50] not that I have any in there atm [03:50] passive popups do not [03:52] omg.. that showed up horrible on planet compared to the original [03:52] lol [03:53] Kubuntu DVDs are up! free hugs to all testers! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20081030/ [03:55] ~twitter been out canoeing, DVDs now up for testing [03:55] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' [03:55] ~twitter update been out canoeing, DVDs now up for testing [03:55] status updated [04:00] Riddell: that post looks so bad on planet. I edited it on blogger. Will planet get an updated version? [04:01] rgreening: yes, although it'll still do whatever html tidying it did before [04:02] why is http://www.kubuntu.net/ still with the old look? Should it not be the same as the http://www.kubuntu.org ? [04:03] KDesk: shows how often that domain is used :) [04:04] Riddell: yes, but I have fixed some of that (hopefully) by compromising on the pic on the left/right and changed the text to match. [04:05] since planet doesn't support that [04:06] Riddell: I use kubuntu.net... about 50% of the time by mis-type... should we redir the main site from there? [04:10] rgreening: yes, I've just filed a ticket to request that [04:11] What happend firefox-qt? Will it be ready for FF3.1? [04:11] wiked. mind reading is a good skill [04:11] KDesk: that's up to upstream [04:12] ~twitter update Cleaning up my todo list... removed 3 items out of 12 [04:12] status updated [04:12] aah, hopefully it is ready for 3.1 :-) [04:15] R-syncing DVD now to test... [04:22] hey Riddell [04:23] morning NCommander [04:24] Riddell, how goes it? [04:24] DVDs needing testing [04:26] I can probably test the AMD64 one [04:27] great [04:27] yeah, and I'll get the i386 [04:27] just rsync-ing [04:28] it's at 37% === Socceroos is now known as Socceroos_Intrep === Socceroos_Intrep is now known as Socceroos [06:28] Riddell: how are we looking for the ISO's? [06:31] Good morning everybody and just a little thank you from me to all of you. I'm sure we'll have a nice release today. Thanks for alle the efforts. [07:22] Hi, I just wanted to thank you for the great RC. Yesterday, I installed it on my Lenovo T61. The installation did work without a clue. Only the Add Language dialog and the Non-Free Hardware Driver tools crashed ... after they finished their job. So everythings works great. Thank you. [07:27] ooh, good, the url I was about to ask for is in the topic :) [10:06] alleeHol: hey :) [10:06] may I bug you just a second ? [10:07] Tonio_: Hi, how's it going? [10:07] yes, ask === Greenery_ is now known as Greenery [11:07] * smarter waves [11:07] are we there yet? :] [11:10] * davmor2 slaps smater sorry the bot made me do it [11:11] smarter: ^ even [11:24] morning friends, are we excited today? [11:25] of course we are :p [11:39] gooooood morning === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [11:40] hello [11:42] <_Sime_> ok, so today is the big-ish day. [11:42] yes, Riddell's getting married. Who's the best man? [11:42] <_Sime_> his job I'm guessing. ;-) [11:42] ;) === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Nearly there! | Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSJauntySpecs [11:50] ~twitter update fell asleep around 6 in the morning, feels like a good day to do a distro release [11:50] howdy, Riddell [11:50] status updated [11:52] Riddell: all the ISO's are tested now? [11:52] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all is looking good [11:58] ~twitter update Intrepid is here... waiting for bug reports... [11:58] status updated [11:58] \o/ \o/ \o/ [12:00] morning Riddell and friends [12:00] rgreening: mornign [12:00] ~facts about coffee [12:00] I know nothing about coffee [12:00] ~order coffee [12:00] * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to JontheEchidna. [12:10] the bug tracker is so quiet this morning [12:14] no bugs left, they've all been fixed [12:14] that's what I'm hoping :] [12:15] hehe [12:19] yo [12:20] JontheEchidna: bug 290717... It doesn't crash for me either. In users backtrace, nothing stood out to me... [12:20] Launchpad bug 290717 in kdebase "Dolphin crashes when path contains two slashes behind each other" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290717 [12:21] yeah, that's the thing [12:21] strange [12:22] well, there aren't any debug symbols so there's nothing that could jump out at us [12:24] Im going to suggest some stuff... which dbg package would be necessary [12:24] I commented requesting him to install kdebase-dbg [12:25] Hobbsee: simon__ needs kicked from #ubuntu [12:26] Riddell: hmm, he left before i saw anything from him [12:29] JontheEchidna: I never saw it.. (never refreshed page) and added a similar comment... lol... doh [12:30] You should be able to edit your post to LP [12:37] ~order breakfast [12:37] * kubotu slides a cigarette, a cup of hot coffee and a bagel with cream cheese down the bar to rgreening. [12:37] mmmm... breakfast of champions [12:41] JontheEchidna: bug 291064.. I can't reproduce. how bout you? [12:41] Launchpad bug 291064 in kdebase-kde4 "SIGSEGV 11, crash during deleting files from fish protocol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291064 [12:42] today is the big day right? [12:43] jjesse: yep, today is when we start on jaunty :) [12:44] rgreening: I don't have the setup to test fish I don't think [12:44] congrats again gang on the release [12:44] it rocks on my dell 9 [12:44] or at least, I don't know how to [12:44] for those of you going to UDS i will be bringing it so you can see how it works/l0ooks [12:45] JontheEchidna: Got any ssh account? fish is just a gui based ssh [12:45] nope, that's the thing [12:46] ah. ok then. :) [12:47] Riddell: Are the jaunty repositories open yet? Or are you doing conceptional work only at this time? [12:47] This one is strange... bug 290989 [12:47] Launchpad bug 290989 in kdebase-workspace "KDE4 sensitive to /tmp space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290989 [12:48] yeah, no clue what they're talking about [12:48] hunger: the jaunty repos aren't open yet [12:49] JontheEchidna: Thought so:-( [12:49] * hunger hates the time between beta 1 and the opening of the repos for the next version. [12:50] Soooo boring. Nothing breaks:-) [12:50] hehe [12:51] hunger: not yet open, usually it takes a day or two of tollchain setup anyway [12:51] Riddell: I know:-( I was just developing some hope since you mentioned to be working on jaunty already. [12:52] I guess I can at least activate the backport repos then:-) [12:52] 4.1.3 should appear for packaging today [12:54] New OOo version is out, too. [12:54] my CPU fan is already whining at me^ [12:54] Of course git is extremly outdated in ubuntu. [12:54] but that's because ktorrent is taking 340 MB RAM o.o [12:55] to install open office 3 how would i do it? [12:58] wow start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ is nice === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:14] <_gunni_> jjesse: For OOo 3 you can look at a ppa https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive [13:16] Riddell: what's the process to start packaging 4.1.3 (I came in rather late in 4.1.2 last time). [13:28] kbluetooth is broken:-( Can't find any device, even though gnome apps find several. [13:29] hunger: yeah, known problem, it got broken by a late bluez update [13:29] we'll do an update of solid-bluez when there's something working [13:34] who has bandwidth? torrents need seeding [13:35] * Riddell eyes up seaLne [13:38] is the kubuntu wiki working for anyone? [13:39] it might be a bit overloaded [13:46] Riddell: currently downloading will seed when finished [13:47] thanks [14:04] Riddell: at school, but anything to do for the website? [14:05] ryanakca: don't think so, unless you want to add a screenshots page [14:05] Riddell: ok, I'll try to work on that between assigned tasks [14:06] s/assigned tasks/assignements/g [14:11] Riddell: zomg, it's out [14:12] can I hit the jolly, shiny, candy-like publish button on the news story now? [14:13] JontheEchidna: go for it! [14:13] congrats everyone it's out [14:14] woo [14:14] JontheEchidna: remove RC from masterhead and update link too [14:15] how do I do that? [14:16] * JontheEchidna isn't familiar with drupal [14:16] DIGG IT; http://digg.com/linux_unix/Kubuntu_8_10_Released_refreshes_the_desktop [14:18] Weee! [14:19] JontheEchidna: Go to the admin, edit the masthead block. [14:20] Riddell: that digg link hooks into this page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release note the title at the top ;) [14:20] davmor2: working on it [14:21] davmor2: fixed [14:22] JontheEchidna: title is too long s/Released/Out/ [14:22] in masterhead [14:22] :) [14:22] kk [14:23] Great work guys :] [14:24] \\o \\o \\o [14:24] o// o// o// [14:24] :D [14:24] group hug! [14:24] you all rock! [14:24] :D-/< [14:24] :D-\< [14:25] :D-/< [14:25] :D-\< [14:25] * JontheEchidna dances [14:26] * Riddell ceilidhs [14:26] *sigh*, after the announcement, the left sidebar moves into the middle of the screen in IE6 [14:26] * rgreening sings.... breaks all the windows... [14:27] \o/ /o\ \o/ [14:29] JontheEchidna: did you get the masthead? [14:29] people still use IE 6 [14:29] ryanakca: yeah [14:29] ? [14:29] Riddell: my school does :/ [14:30] JontheEchidna: *patiently waits for the cache to get updated* [14:30] can we get the #kubuntu topic changed? [14:30] oh, nvm [14:30] already changed ;-) [14:30] Riddell: any changes from the DVD last night to todays release? [14:34] http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download <-- KDE3 mentioned? [14:35] rgreening: nope [14:35] Tm_T: fixed, waiting cache update [14:35] kool. I'll burn it [14:35] and re-install clean (I think) [14:35] Riddell: great, thanks [14:40] so who's gonna submit a story to the Dot? [14:42] here's a question, how do I export my Kmail mail (or what do I need to backup to keep my mail)? If anyone knows... [14:42] JontheEchidna: a volunteer! [14:42] hehe [14:42] I'll do it in a bit [14:52] * JontheEchidna has to go [14:53] bbl, and congrats again everyone === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away [14:59] yay! congrats all \o/ [15:03] awooga === arnl is now known as Aranel [15:25] hey everyone, a big congrats to all of you this go round. I wish I could have been more active this time around and look forward to working with everyone in Jaunty! [15:25] Congrats again! Job well done! [15:28] Riddell: could you please have a look at bug #291115 [15:28] Launchpad bug 291115 in update-manager "Kubuntu Update Manager crash problem with Turkish language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291115 [15:28] mvo: yeah, just been helping him [15:29] I think it's a turkish only isue [15:29] Riddell: breakage in the translation? not utf-8? [15:29]