[00:00] <obocaman> the same computer with the ubuntu 7.04 works perfect
[00:00] <ds[de]> so you took the same steps to gain internet access?
[00:00] <obocaman> yes
[00:00] <ds[de]> obocaman, can you ping your router?
[00:01] <obocaman> i get ip addres from the dhcp server from the router
[00:01] <obocaman> yes
[00:01] <obocaman> even i can do pingo to google.com
[00:01] <obocaman> but with firefox i cant
[00:01] <obocaman> or the synaptic
[00:01] <obocaman> only works the ping
[00:02] <ds[de]> well if you get a ping response but can't access the same server with firefox it sounds like a firefox issue to me
[00:02] <ds[de]> oh ok
[00:02] <obocaman> but in other routers firefox works fine
[00:02] <obocaman> i think is something with the router i have and the ubuntu 8.10
[00:02] <johnjohn101> what version of alsa will be included in ibex?
[00:02] <ds[de]> I'm out for a smoke, I'll get back at you in a couple of minutes
[00:03] <obocaman> ok
[00:04] <obocaman> say something when your back
[00:07] <johnjohn101> if i down load ubuntu tonight, can i upgrade to the released version?
[00:08] <VSpike> My video camera fails to create a /dev/video0 node when plugged in more than one time.  what package should this be reported against?
[00:09] <coppro> udev perhaps?
[00:09] <lucax> will gnome global menu be included in intrepid?
[00:16] <obocaman> ds[de are you bsck?
[00:17] <obocaman> back?
[00:19] <jrib> chsty_g4: my nvidia drivers work fine so you need to be more specific about your issue
[00:19] <ASrock>  Hey, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and the themes i normally use dont work right with it...on gnomelook.org what would be the proper section to look at for themes for ubuntu 8.10?
[00:19] <jrib> ASrock: what do you mean exactly by "work right"
[00:19] <chsty_g4> i've got a geforce3 ti200 (i think) and the old drivers that were in 8.4 (i think) aren't working anymore
[00:20] <ASrock> um i forgot the exact error message but they look really goofy like on my panels the ends are black and the middle stays white and transparent
[00:20] <chad> when i try to compile cairo-doc i get the following message `AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library  does anyone know how to fix ?
[00:21] <ASrock> when i went to gnomelook.org i used the section "GTK 2.x" is that the wrong type to be working for or should i look for metacity or compiz?
[00:22] <jrib> chad: you mean cairo-dock?
[00:22] <jrib> chad: "aren't working"?  what exactly happens?
[00:22] <jrib> chsty_g4: "aren't working"?  what exactly happens?
[00:23] <chad> jrib: sorry .. i got it :-D
[00:23]  * jrib curses tab complete
[00:23] <jrib> chad: you know cairo-dock is in the repositories right?
[00:23] <jrib> ASrock: should be fine.  Try a different theme
[00:24] <ljuwaidah> night
[00:24] <obocaman> the gtk 2.x themes will work
[00:24] <obocaman> you download it
[00:25] <chad> jrib:  yeah but i want the newest version from svn .. i need a bug fix in it
[00:26] <obocaman> open system---> preferences-->appearance
[00:26] <obocaman> and drag the new theme into
[00:27] <cob> hey guys, having trouble with the ati xorg driver in 8.10, can't get any acceleration it seems...every boot it asks if I want to use low graphics mode or reconfigure/check logs/etc
[00:27] <cob> also having to restart networking after every resume from suspend
[00:27] <ASrock> jrib: i had to manually tell the panel to use the theme...then it worked fine...exept my workspace switcher still lookes a little weird...is there any way i can edit how that looks?
[00:27] <jrib> ASrock: not sure about that
[00:28] <obocaman> i cant acces internet with ubuntu  8.10 and a router zyxel prestige 643
[00:29] <chsty_g4> jrib, with default drivers, the geforce is unable to use the compiz effect
[00:30] <chsty_g4> when i run the nvidia x server settings, i am told that i do not have drivers installed anymore
[00:31] <Optimus55> does the new ubuntu drop tonight at 12?
[00:31] <bloopletech> I heard 2200
[00:31] <cob> ibex is going legit?
[00:31] <obocaman> it depends from where you live
[00:31] <cob> or you mean another beta build
[00:32] <bloopletech> cob: release I think
[00:32] <cob> wow, that was fast
[00:32] <cob> not a very long rc
[00:32] <bloopletech> cob: join #ubuntu-release-party for more info
[00:36] <LSD|Ninja> you guys are cutting this kinda fine, no? :P
[00:37] <bloopletech> Well, in my timezone they have a nother 12 hours
[00:37] <Optimus55> i feel special there... got invited to a release party... *sniff...
[00:38] <cob> 06:00 in what time zone
[00:38] <cob> that is a really important detail, lol
[00:39] <LSD|Ninja> They go by GMT so they still have just under two days to make the 8.10 date but still... :P
[00:39] <WelshDragon> +f?
[00:48] <Rods_Tiger> There's no point in rushing it if it's not ready
[00:49] <Nergar> hello
[00:49] <Nergar> how can I use rsync to update an iso to the latest daily?
[00:50] <Hoover_4000> pliz help i deleted a panel and i cant get it bavk
[00:50] <Hoover_4000> back
[00:51] <gamesiano> i have upgraded to intrepid and now when i click in any option in sites menus it opens Rithmbox!!!!
[00:52] <gamesiano> why?
[00:52] <Volkodav> which panel?
[00:52] <gamesiano> menu
[00:52] <gamesiano> sites
[00:53] <gamesiano> top
[00:53] <Volkodav> in the browser?
[00:53] <gamesiano> in the menu of gnome
[00:53] <gamesiano> top menu bar
[00:54] <Volkodav> start it manually
[00:55] <Volkodav> do gnome-panel in shell
[00:55] <sendark> hi people, if i do update-manager -d now, will i be able to update to the actual release once it is out?
[00:55] <gamesiano> ok, Volkodav
[00:55] <gamesiano> but thats no the solution
[00:55] <gamesiano> to my problem
[00:56] <gamesiano> I want my sites like in hardy
[00:56] <gamesiano> previously to upgrade to intrepid
[00:57] <gamesiano> "A panel is already running.
[00:57] <gamesiano> "
[00:57] <gamesiano> so...
[00:57] <cob> if the current rc is similar to release, ibex has regressed on my machine :(
[00:57] <Volkodav> so you have bottom panel not the upper one?
[00:57] <gamesiano> how can i manually edit the sites menu ?
[00:58] <Volkodav> sites?
[00:58] <gamesiano> mmmm
[00:58] <gamesiano> the truth is that i was playing with 2 monitors
[00:58] <Volkodav> heh
[00:58] <gamesiano> and it is posible that that panel is not the original one
[00:58] <gamesiano> ...
[00:58] <gamesiano> thats the reason?
[00:58] <Volkodav> dual head is different
[00:59] <gamesiano> maybe intrepid get mad
[00:59] <gamesiano> with this panel
[00:59] <gamesiano> i erased the other panel
[00:59] <gamesiano> maybe the original panel
[00:59] <Volkodav> are you back to single head or still in dual?
[00:59] <gamesiano> single
[01:00] <gamesiano> Documents Home Images alll opens Rythmbox
[01:00] <gamesiano> !!!!
[01:00] <Volkodav> heh
[01:01] <gamesiano> tell me Volkodav
[01:02] <Volkodav> kill all panels and create bottom fist then add the top
[01:02] <Volkodav> and then restart X
[01:02] <gamesiano> well thanks
[01:02] <gamesiano> i will do it
[01:02] <Volkodav> np
[01:02] <gamesiano> but now i have to go to bed
[01:02] <gamesiano> bye
[01:03] <gamesiano> see you next time here...
[01:03] <gamesiano> probably...
[01:03] <gamesiano> ;)
[01:03] <Volkodav> ;)
[01:05] <michelecs_> Hi Guys. Is the LPIA good for Atom processor? I mean: Is Atom belonging to the LPIA architecture?
[01:06] <dekkong> hello
[01:07] <bloopletech> hry
[01:07] <bloopletech> *hey
[01:08] <dekkong> bloopletech: :) do you know @ what time the new ubuntu 8.10 will be released? :)
[01:09] <Dwedit> How do I make my max resolution 1024x768?
[01:09] <agitdd99> is there anyone experienced static IP setup didn't work out in the late release of intrepid?
[01:09] <bloopletech> No, it will be out when it's ready. You can hang out in #ubuntu-release-party for more info, however they might not like it if you sake when 8.10 is coming out
[01:09] <agitdd99> i got this problem when i run the beta version
[01:09] <dekkong> bloopletech: yeah
[01:15] <Thedjatclubrock> Do you know if I could take the Ubuntu LiveCD, replace the default GNOME backgroud?
[01:16] <Thedjatclubrock> I'd like to modify the default background for new users, and distribute it on a LiveCD
[01:16] <Thedjatclubrock> And maybe some other GNOME hacks
[01:16] <powerking> I'm curious. Is the lack of packages in my repository due to Intrepid not being released yet or me on AMD64 Architecture?
[01:17] <powerking> I mean I have some
[01:17] <powerking> but I'm missing like Konversation
[01:17] <powerking> which is what I use on this PC to do IRC :)
[01:17] <Thedjatclubrock> powerking: Is Universe enabled?
[01:17] <powerking> uhhh....prolly not, I'll check after the updates are installed
[01:18] <pipeline_> how many hours left until final?
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> pipeline_: thanks for asking, now it's two more than before.
[01:18] <jtechidna> powerking: kdesudo software-properties-kde
[01:18] <jtechidna> make sure universe is enabled
[01:18] <pipeline_> i got 8.10 BETA, and I've been steadily updating it ever since, would I want to reinstall when final is released? Or shall I just keep it, with the updates I've applied?
[01:18] <karl5765765> its not released yet , it says coming soon on th e site
[01:18] <Hoover_4000> Thedjatclubrock: you will have to extract the iso file
[01:18] <powerking> will that still work if I'm in gnome?
[01:19] <jtechidna> oh wait, konversation is in main
[01:19] <jtechidna> hmm
[01:19] <jtechidna> strange
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> pipeline_: same thing, just keep up with updates and you'll be at final
[01:19] <powerking> yea, it tells me its not in the repo
[01:19] <pipeline_> Daisuke_Ido: what?
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> pipeline_: if you keep the beta updated, it will eventually be the same as the final release
[01:20] <pipeline_> Daisuke_Ido: hm.
[01:20] <pipeline_> thanks.
[01:20] <Thedjatclubrock> Hoover_4000: Where is the file, I have extracted it.
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> pipeline_: that's what i'm doing :)
[01:20] <Hoover_4000> not so sure
[01:20] <jtechidna> powerking: according to this it should have built on all architectures some months ago.
[01:21] <pipeline_> Daisuke_Ido: why i'm asking is because there are still a few bugs in place.
[01:21] <Hoover_4000> Thedjatclubrock: not sure guess you will have to check
[01:21] <pipeline_> Daisuke_Ido: but i guess they'll all be resolved with fixes, eitherway.
[01:21] <jtechidna> oh, forgot to paste the link
[01:21] <jtechidna> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/1.1-0ubuntu2
[01:21] <powerking> yea. I think this most recent update broke my installation.
[01:21] <powerking> It worked before >.>
[01:22] <powerking> lets try a cold boot.
[01:22] <powerking> gah. shit. same thing
[01:22] <wamcvey> ikonia, any luck with testing intrepid with Xen on AMD64?
[01:23] <jtechidna> powerking: maybe you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:23] <powerking> doesnt matter now
[01:23] <powerking> latest update broke my installation.
[01:23] <jtechidna> oh, nice
[01:23] <powerking> No. not really.
[01:23]  * Daisuke_Ido strangles the people on launchpad that can't read
[01:23] <Thedjatclubrock> powerking: How do you mean?
[01:24] <powerking> I mean
[01:24] <powerking> I boot
[01:24] <powerking> it gets past grub
[01:24] <powerking> says
[01:24] <powerking> "Boot from (hd0,0) ext 3 gives some spam that looks like a hash of some sort
[01:24] <powerking> goes to the next line
[01:24] <powerking> and does blinking cursor of death
[01:24] <powerking> forever.
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> posted my question about kaudiocreator's existence in *intrepid* and got https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+question/49360
[01:24] <Thedjatclubrock> powerking: Is your initd correct?
[01:25] <powerking> say what.
[01:25] <powerking> maybe.
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> if you haven't touched it, there's no reason it shouldn't be, and a pretty poor sort of update if it's wrong
[01:26] <powerking> I'll try to boot to the old kernel
[01:26] <powerking> it installed a new kernel version
[01:26] <powerking> Oh, joy. The old kernel isnt there anymore.
[01:27] <Thedjatclubrock> Odd
[01:27] <Thedjatclubrock> powerking: Is your HD alright?
[01:27] <powerking> recovery console works
[01:27] <powerking> It better be.
[01:27] <powerking> there, works from recovery console
[01:27] <powerking> after hitting "resume normal boot"
[01:28] <powerking> heh. this is what I get for using RC :p
[01:28] <Thedjatclubrock> RC works for me :P
[01:29] <powerking> get 133 updates, and it wont :p
[01:29] <bsnider> there's nothing wrong with the rc
[01:29] <powerking> at least for AMD64
[01:29] <powerking> you're right
[01:29] <powerking> the RC works. The updates to it break the install :P. At least it did this time. Maybe its a random problem.
[01:29] <joshual> does anyone know if I can run 32 bit applications on ubuntu-64bit ?
[01:30] <powerking> you can. afaik
[01:30] <bsnider> like what?
[01:30] <ArkoldThos> joshual: yea
[01:30] <joshual> bsnider: ermm not really sure what yet, just wondering if I should give it a go
[01:30] <joshual> cool thx
[01:30] <ArkoldThos> just use something named getlibs or smth~
[01:30] <ArkoldThos> :P oki
[01:31] <bsnider> joshual, all the repository stuff is available in amd64. 3d games are 32 bit but work anyway
[01:31] <ArkoldThos> when updates for final are coming :O?
[01:31] <joshual> how about if I were to run a 32 bit game using wine or something?
[01:31] <powerking> GAH. Now it booted to the version without the blacklisted PCI thing so wireless is borked
[01:31] <bsnider> there's no reason not to use amd64 if you have the hardware for it.
[01:31] <joshual> ah perfect :)
[01:31] <joshual> awesome thanks bsnider I'll do it then :)
[01:31] <ArkoldThos> joshual: you need to install some 32 bits libraries and stuff
[01:31] <joshual> as soon as kubuntu 8.10 is released that is
[01:31] <joshual> ArkoldThos: is there a meta package for that?
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> jtechidna: yeah, that pretty much covered the question, i'll see if i can find it via another source
[01:32] <bsnider> linus himself recently attacked some of the x devs for not using amd64.
[01:32] <powerking> normal boot works now. After I did it through the recovery console.
[01:32] <jtechidna> Daisuke_Ido: if you can get the hardy deb you should be able to install it, I'd think
[01:32] <powerking> I knew it was a random problem. Thats what it always is with me. The Linux gods do it to laugh at my angst.
[01:32] <jtechidna> your mileage may vary (tm)
[01:32] <ArkoldThos> joshual: nope
[01:33] <Technoviking> anyone else having weird re-drawing problems with gnome-terminal in Intrepid?
[01:33] <joshual> hrmm ArkoldThos ok, i'll look for a how to
[01:33] <ArkoldThos> ia32-libs
[01:33] <ArkoldThos> is a package with some very important libraries
[01:34] <joshual> okee thx
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> jtechidna: tried that and it wouldn't work, dependency not satisfiable (kdemultimedia-kio-plugins)
[01:35] <jtechidna> ah, right
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i might see if i can grab something else
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i just really liked that one :(
[01:36] <Milos_SD> Hello to all ... I have one question about 64bit Ubuntu :)
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ripperx...  sounds dangerous
[01:36] <Milos_SD> Will be there any performance slowdowns when runing 32bit app on it?
[01:37] <bsnider> no there will not
[01:37] <bsnider> although it's questionable whether you'd ever need a 32 bit app
[01:37] <Milos_SD> for exaple wine :)
[01:38] <Milos_SD> I compile wine, I'm not using precompiled version ...
[01:38] <Milos_SD> will I have problems? :D
[01:38] <bsnider> that's on you
[01:39] <joshual> so will 8.10 come out at 12am greenwich mean time... or?
[01:40] <musikgoat> hi, anyone noticed a series of frequent system beeps when starting or shutting down or suspending (haven't tested hybernating), on an x64 upgrade from updated 8.04 to latest rc?   hardware: athlon64, nvidia n4force chipset and 9800gx2.   I'm noticing it around during when grub loads to the graphical boot
[01:40] <musikgoat> or heard of it
[01:41] <bsnider> everybody's had that issue
[01:41] <bsnider> you can blacklist the snd_pcspkr module
[01:41] <musikgoat> is there a bug filed then?
[01:42] <bsnider> i think it's mostly fixed
[01:42] <powerking> Ugh. Why wont this driver start.
[01:42] <bsnider> what driver?
[01:42] <powerking> atheros 802.11 wireless LAN
[01:43] <powerking> was working just fine, and then I did that update
[01:43] <joshual> i'm sitting here using ulteo until i can d/l a copy of 8.10
[01:43] <bsnider> powerking, you need the backports package for that
[01:43] <powerking> now the system starts with it disabled, and wont enable it.
[01:43] <powerking> which package is that.
[01:43] <bsnider> the ath5k in the kernel was blacklisted in favour of a better one in the backports package
[01:44] <powerking> yea. ath5k was working just fine >.>
[01:44] <powerking> whats the package name
[01:44] <bsnider> linux-backports-modules
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> ripperx isn't terrible, but it's not the shining beacon of awesomeness i was hoping for :\
[01:45] <powerking> sure? it said it couldn't find it. and I'm connected to a wired connection, and it works
[01:45] <bsnider> that's the relevant part of the name. i'm assuming you're searching in synaptic
[01:45] <musikgoat> !bug 255590
[01:45] <powerking> no, that'd be the smart thing to do.
[01:45] <powerking> :p
[01:46] <musikgoat> ^^for anyone else that wants to reference it
[01:46] <powerking> swgpr3cu
[01:46] <powerking> hehe, wrong IRC channel
[01:48] <powerking> yea, synaptic found nothing
[01:49] <bloopletech> powerking: sure that's not your sudo password?
[01:49] <powerking> yeup :)
[01:50] <bloopletech> I'd change it if I were you
[01:50] <powerking> svn password to a project of mine (not on this server either, so :) )
[01:51] <bsnider> powerking, linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[01:53] <joshual> wonder /j #linux
[01:53] <joshual> oops
[01:54] <powerking> apt get found it :)
[01:57] <nkei0> heya all
[01:57] <vox> i get this error when i try to use my webcam, it uses the OV511 chipset: can not open /dev/video0 (No space left on device)  any ideas?
[01:58] <nkei0> so, when i go to the gimp folder (it's in usr/share/gimp/2.0) why does it say 2.0?  when I type gimp to run it, it runs 2.6...
[02:00] <bsnider> maybe because the folder name doesn't care about the minor revision number
[02:08] <michelecs> Is there any exact time for the Intrepid release?
[02:10] <rww> michelecs: no
[02:11] <Prez00> i guess there are many already upgrading.. i am upgrading and it is fairly slow going..
[02:12] <dnb1997> is there a channel for the release party?
[02:12] <lobo235> Can anyone help me get the java plugin working for firefox 3.0.3? I installed the OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start and the OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime but that didn't seem to do it...
[02:13] <bsnider> dnb1997, no, we're all just going to hop in a limo and head to vegas instead.
[02:13] <rww> dnb1997: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:13] <jtechidna> dnb1997: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:13] <dnb1997> :)
[02:14] <lobo235> anyone?
[02:16] <rww> lobo235: you also need the package icedtea6-plugin, I think
[02:16] <lobo235> ok, i'll try that
[02:22] <storrgie> wgrant: you here?
[02:25] <linuxkrn> ok, need a guru to answer this.  I have a custom built initrd with a custom patched dmraid for my system.  Will upgrading to 8.10 break this?
[02:26] <paul_muaddib> Has anyone noticed ext3 file corruption?  I've installed on 3 different machines using manual partitioning and each machine I've used can't be backed up with Acronis True Image or Ghost32... They both say the file system is corrupt.... Did ext3 change since 8.04?
[02:28] <firelovez> weeeeeeeeeeee soooooooo nice no more windows on this laptop
[02:28] <zerwas> i think now we can talk about jaunty.
[02:29] <firelovez> noobie in some need of help, i want xchat i type sudo apt-get install xchat and i get a response saying E: xchat not found
[02:29] <firelovez> sorry
[02:29] <firelovez> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[02:30] <rww> firelovez: did you enable the universe repository? have you done sudo apt-get update recently?
[02:31] <firelovez> will do
[02:31] <Cameron> looks like intrepidś file chooser doesn't work consistently for all apps.  in some apps, all bookmarks are shown, in other apps only local ones, and other apps none
[02:31] <firelovez> sweet thanks rww
[02:32] <rww> firelovez: awesome :) which was it? universe or update?
[02:32] <firelovez> update
[02:33] <rww> ah. yeah, someone else had that problem the other day and it took us forever to figure it out, hence me asking this time :D
[02:33] <firelovez> ill be back in a few geting off this pidgin sweet
[02:35] <Cameron> any ubuntu devs in here ?
[02:36] <unique_> what dose rww stand for? is that like a admin or are you in every room i go to lol
[02:36] <johnjohn101> what alsa version ships with ibex?
[02:36] <rww> unique_: It's my RL initials, and I'm not an admin, just someone who can pay attention to three channels at once :)
[02:36] <rww> !info alsa intrepid
[02:36] <unique_> lol so that was you :-)
[02:37] <unique_> sorry im a noob
[02:37] <johnjohn101> ok
[02:37] <rww> hmm, that's not right
[02:37]  * rww thinks
[02:37] <rww> !info alsa-base intrepid | johnjohn101
[02:37] <rww> yay, I guessed better :D
[02:38] <johnjohn101> if i download tonight will i be able to upgrade to the released version?
[02:40] <unique_> ok i do have a small problem i type iwconfig and my wireless card dose not show.... i goto hardware drivers in pref, it says its using support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards.....
[02:46] <CanadianLinux> Should I have any issues with fglrx on my ATI Card after an update from Hardy to Intrepid? 3D support is what im worried about
[02:46] <unique_> also toshset says required kernel toshiba support not enabled...\
[02:46] <rww> CanadianLinux: I'm using a Radeon HD 3450 and have fglrx working perfect :)
[02:47] <CanadianLinux> thankyou very much rww, I cant go without Nexuiz lol
[02:47] <CanadianLinux> I have the same card btw
[02:48] <rww> CanadianLinux: hehe, yeah, only reason I need 3D support is for the games :D
[02:48] <CanadianLinux> Check out nexuiz rww if you are into the Quake series...
[02:49] <BluesKaj> CanadianLinux:  depends which card...my elcheapo ati x200g no longer supports 3D or DRI after upgrading to 8.10RC
[02:49] <unique_> lol i just tryed it on windows for the first time its sweet im going to def get it on here
[02:49] <CanadianLinux> I have a HD2400 and HD3450
[02:49] <rww> CanadianLinux: I will :)
[02:50] <unique_> they were talking about it on hak5 i was like oh yhea
[02:50] <CanadianLinux> Yea its pretty impressive, I'm actively involved in the Community
[02:50] <BluesKaj> CanadianLinux:  I heard that ATI has slightly better supporth nvidia on 8.10
[02:50] <BluesKaj> than
[02:51] <CanadianLinux> ok thanks guys for the Info, I just dont want to be stuck with 2d only
[02:51] <unique_> i was always a fan of ati
[02:52] <unique_> could any one make sense of ("required kernel toshiba support not enabled.") for me
[02:52] <Pretto> ubuntu.com not responding?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> previous  releases have better nvidia supoort then ati m but the 8.10 has decided to got the HAL route on graphics so the xorg.conf file is practically totally uneditable
[02:53] <unique_> ubuntu.com is up on my end\
[02:55] <Pretto> here is not.. a lot of people talking about that on #ubuntu-br
[02:56] <unique_> pretto try http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc maby its just the home page
[02:56] <Pretto> unique_, firefox just say: waiting for ubuntu.com... and no page at  all
[02:57] <unique_> huuum
[02:57] <unique_> can anyone else connect to ubuntu.com
[02:57] <zerwas> unique_, sure.
[02:57] <dublpaws> unique_: yes
[02:58] <Pretto> unique_, maybe the route from Brazil is having some problem
[02:58] <unique_> thats what i was going to say....
[02:59] <unique_> you can try a proxy site and see if it can redirect you to a us based server.
[03:00] <Pretto> the last info i got was 22  gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10)  359.775 ms * *
[03:01] <Pretto> 21  gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10)  359.876 ms 195.50.121.2 (195.50.121.2)  359.877 ms  367.878 ms
[03:01] <Pretto> 22  gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10)  359.775 ms * *
[03:01] <Pretto> same router twice
[03:01] <Pretto> and stuck on the last
[03:02] <unique_> pretto try vostok.canonical.com
[03:02] <crashsystems> does anyone know exactly when 8.10 goes live?
[03:03] <unique_> see if you still cant get thro
[03:03] <unique_> i wanted to know that same question lol
[03:04] <unique_> pretto any luck
[03:04] <Pretto> unique_, tracing
[03:05] <rww> crashsystems: #ubuntu-release-party
[03:05] <Pretto> unique_,
[03:05] <unique_> ?
[03:05] <Pretto> stuck on 22  gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10)  380.807 ms  374.841 ms  379.874 ms
[03:05] <Pretto> 23  * * *  again
[03:06] <mxweas_> I hear that intrepid has built in support for broadcom wireless cards, is this true?
[03:06] <mxweas_> How buggy is it currently?
[03:11] <jadams> I'm running intrepid.  Every ten minutes, my monitor dims.  This is not what it's set to do in power management
[03:11] <Cameron> in intrepid : file choosers show different items in the places list for different applications
[03:11] <ArkoldThos> awwwwwwwwwwwwww~ when updates are coming
[03:12] <sidux> i've got the no-keyboard-or-mouse at login screen problem...
[03:12] <sidux> just did a clean install of Ibex...
[03:13] <duanedesign> rhythmbox crashes everytime I start downloading podcast in my feeds
[03:13] <binarymutant> is anyone getting seg faults with brasero when clicking on "New Audio Project" ?
[03:13] <KDesk> How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in?
[03:14] <talios> 'lo all - just trying to 'update-manager -d' into intrepid and am being told that the installer couldn't authenticate some packages, with 'base-files' being the failure - anyone seen that
[03:14] <Pretto> unique_, i think  that gw0-0-gr.canonical.com is dropping packages from Brazil
[03:15] <unique_> thats what it looks like... maby a over whelm in 8.10 rc downloads
[03:15] <rww> !mirror
[03:15] <chrislx> Anyone using 8.10 on an Acer Aspire One?
[03:16] <rww> I know it says hardy, but the same applies for intrepid: use mirrors!
[03:16] <unique_> lol
[03:16] <unique_> thats all i can think
[03:16] <duanedesign> sidux: do you get a blank screen
[03:16] <unique_> brb
[03:17] <sidux> duanedesign: no, i get the login screen...but mouse & keyboard unresponsive...
[03:20] <mordib80> hello, did anyone have a problem with 8.10 and nvidia 3d driver? As in the FONT on the desktop getting so humongous it takes up the whole screen???
[03:20] <duanedesign> sidux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5964696#post5964696
[03:22] <billybigrigger> so how many more hows until release?
[03:23] <talios> darn timezones - the 30th is almost over here :(
[03:23] <rww> three hows and four #ubuntu-release-party!
[03:23] <billybigrigger> hehe i meant hours
[03:24] <duanedesign> mordib80: sounds like you have the senior citizen option checked in your preferences
[03:24] <mordib80> hahahahaha
[03:24] <mordib80> how can I fix it?
[03:24] <Omar87> The network connections icon does not appear on my notification area, how do I make it appear?
[03:24] <mordib80> thx
[03:24] <duanedesign> what nvidia card
[03:25] <mordib80> actually it was fine until i installed nvidia driver and restarted computer
[03:25] <billybigrigger> rww three hours for release or what?
[03:25] <mordib80> oh its a geforce 6200
[03:25] <chocohoof> hi
[03:25] <rww> billybigrigger: I was joking. Nobody in here knows when release is. Nobody in #ubuntu-release-party knows either, but you should ask there anyway :P
[03:26] <chrislx> Anyone using an Acer Aspire One?
[03:26] <chocohoof> any solution for the keyboard/mice problem?
[03:26] <duanedesign> so the generic "nv" driver worked
[03:26] <mordib80> yes
[03:26] <rww> !isitdone | billybigrigger, because ubottu says
[03:26] <mordib80> generic nv driver works great
[03:26] <rww> .. damnit ubottu, you're killing me here
[03:26] <billybigrigger> hahaha
[03:26] <jadams> in totem, I don't have the mythtv plugin listed.  I have mythtv-plugins-extra installed.
[03:27] <rww> !isitout  | billybigrigger, because ubottu says
[03:27] <rww> there we go :)
[03:27] <billybigrigger> hehe k ill be sure to ask
[03:29] <billybigrigger> but when its released does this chan get notified?
[03:30] <Firelovez> could anyone help me to get my wireless card to work?
[03:30] <billybigrigger> what kind?
[03:32] <chocohoof> could any1 help me to get my keyboard work at the login screen??
[03:32] <Firelovez> its a bulit in atheros card i go to hardware drivers and it has a green ball saying support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards....
[03:33] <chocohoof> pls
[03:34] <billybigrigger> Firelovez: i would suggest typing lspci and finding a model number for your card and google it
[03:34] <chocohoof> could somebody tell me why my keyboard and mice didnt working at the Ibex login screen???
[03:34] <billybigrigger> i have a broadcom so i can't give too much help
[03:35] <sebsebseb> chocohoof: USB mouse and keyboard?
[03:35] <chocohoof> nope, serial
[03:35] <sebsebseb> hummmmmm
[03:35] <sebsebseb> well
[03:35] <sebsebseb> with USB  I had similar issue like once, but I think that's more to do with my computer
[03:36] <chocohoof> uhum
[03:36] <sebsebseb> ,but  all I had to do was take them out and plug back in again and then it would detect
[03:36] <chocohoof> but its strange
[03:36] <chocohoof> because
[03:36] <sebsebseb> unplug and plugging back in again when it's on the log in screen may do it
[03:36] <chocohoof> if i start the recovery menu
[03:37] <chocohoof> i can navigate with the keys, but at the login screen it dies, ive tried plugging it out and in but no help
[03:38] <sebsebseb> by another  mouse and keyboard?
[03:38] <sebsebseb> maybe
[03:38] <sebsebseb> buy
[03:39] <sebsebseb> does that computer dual boot with Windows by the way?
[03:39] <chocohoof> ive tried it with my fathers one, same results
[03:39] <sebsebseb> if so does it work there
[03:39] <sebsebseb> your fathers with Ibex?
[03:39] <chocohoof> yes it will dualboot with windows by the way, and it worx there
[03:40] <chocohoof> no mz fathers keyboard with my ibex
[03:40] <scientus> how do i add a dns server via command line
 network manager destroy my wired internet conenction cause it sucks
[03:40] <sebsebseb> ah ha
[03:41] <Firelovez> this is a said solution for the wireless problem "linux-backports-modules-intrepid" dose anyone know what it is
[03:41] <sebsebseb> I think  Ibex lacks a lot of older hardware suppourt and that could be your problem,
[03:41] <chocohoof> uhum
[03:41] <sebsebseb> uh
[03:41] <sebsebseb> private or here?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> you started a private
[03:42] <chocohoof> priv
[03:43] <duanedesign> in 8.10 rhythmbox crashes when I download podcasts in my feeds
[03:44] <duanedesign>  The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. Users with the nVidia TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, GeForce2, GeForce3, and GeForce4 chipsets are affected and will be transitioned on upgrade to the free nv driver instead. This driver does not support 3D acceleration.
[03:45] <e-frame> how to view my onboard usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0) any suggestion ?
[03:46] <pawan> hi
[03:46] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[03:47] <pawan> !ibex
[03:49] <secret901> I'm having trouble enabling Visual Effects. Whenever I choose it, it switches back to "None" and tell me that my graphics card won't work.  It's worked with Hardy.
[03:49] <KDesk> How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in?
[03:49] <thatguy> less than 12 min
[03:52] <e-frame> how to view my onboard usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0) any suggestion ?
[03:52] <secret901> I'm having trouble enabling Visual Effects. Whenever I choose it, it switches back to "None" and tell me that my graphics card won't work.  It's worked before in Hardy.
[04:07] <scientus> why does drectory listing in nfs take forever, way slower than samba
[04:08] <unique_> i just got my wireless card to work now i cant connect to my network.... it keeps asking for the passkey i put it in and it just repeats
[04:09] <e-frame> how to view my onboard usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0) any suggestion ?
[04:09] <e-frame> :)
[04:12] <anish>  sudo lsusb -v | grep bcdUSB
[04:13] <a1len> Hey guys. I installed compiz and my wlan status bar on my top panel dissapeared. Do you know how I'd turn it back on?
[04:18] <foorilious> in ibex, I find that zsh is placing the cursor at the end of the line when I use up-arrow to recall the previous command.  How can I make it go back to putting the cursor at the end of the line
[04:20]  * billybigrigger waits...
[04:22] <KDesk> How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in?
[04:28] <roxan> which configuration file the new network manager uses?
[04:28] <foorilious> I have a latitude e6500 and the trackpad is acting really awful.  I tried configuring it in system->preferences->mouse, but it didn't help.  I tried adding synaptics to xorg, but that sent me into failsafe mode and I could barely get out of that
[04:30] <roxan> foorilious, this is not a soln to your problem but you could have used alt+ctrl+backspace to get out
[04:30] <foorilious> roxan: no, I meant, that after that, each time I started X, it was in failsafe
[04:30] <foorilious> even after I reverted xorg.conf to the original
[04:30] <Lunks> How do I post a feature request to NM?
[04:31] <roxan> foorilious, did you tried to reconfigure x?
[04:31] <foorilious> dunno what you mean exactly
[04:31] <roxan> foorilious, sudo dpkg-reconfigure X....
[04:31] <Lunks> foorilious: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:32] <Lunks> =P
[04:32] <foorilious> oh, I did eventually get out of failsafe
[04:32] <foorilious> but I still have a crappy trackpad :)
[04:32] <Lunks> foorilious: is a mouse listed on xorg.conf?
[04:33] <foorilious> Lunks, no.  I reverted to the stock xorg.conf
[04:33] <foorilious> which is now stripped-down by default, it seems
[04:33] <Lunks> Hmm I believe 8.10 doesn't need a pointer set on xorg.conf, right? I thought I didn't have a CorePointer entry on my xorg.conf, but I do.
[04:35] <Lunks> foorilious: Just guessing, does 'Mouse Preferences' show a trackpad tab? And is the trackpad checkbox checked?
[04:35] <foorilious> yes, and yes
[04:35] <Lunks> touchpad, I mean. :P
[04:35] <foorilious> yes
[04:35] <foorilious> I'm reading this now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:35] <foorilious> going to give that whirl
[04:36] <Lunks> I can lend you my xorg.conf, if you want. The relevant section should help you out.
[04:36] <Lunks> As it's working here.
[04:37] <foorilious> I might take you up on that, but first let me give the official instructions a shot.  Thank you.
[04:37] <Lunks> Well, here it is: http://pastebin.com/f4fd47574
[04:37] <foorilious> cool thanks
[04:37] <DanaG> Actually, xorg.conf is no longer the correct place for touchpad settings.
[04:37] <DanaG> You should use hal fdi files instead.
[04:38] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/19-synaptics.fdi
[04:43] <nergar> hello
[04:43] <nergar> im tring out current daily
[04:44] <roxan> !hello | nergar
[04:45] <nergar> fresh install and bash-completion isn't installed, there is no ~/.bashrc , ~/.profile, ~/Examples/ and no ~/.bash_logout
[04:45] <nergar> basically nothing from /etc/skel was copied. why is that?
[04:46] <roxan> nergar, it is only copied for new users.
[04:46] <nergar> new users?
[04:46] <nergar> the account created in the installer is treated differently ?
[04:47] <roxan> nergar, thats a new use.
[04:47] <gwark> i'm having trouble playing *.rm files.   Realplayer is jumpy, and totem is sound:OK, video:not showing up....   there IS a fix for it, i just cant find it. a lil help please? :)
[04:48] <jameswf> are we there yet
[04:48] <nergar> roxan: should I file a bug?
[04:48] <roxan> nergar, i dont know. lets see what others have to say
[04:49] <frybye> hi all - looking for help with installing a usb-fax-modem? Any offers?
[04:49] <crimsun> gwark: meaning using w{32,64}codecs and a xine-lib-based player/mplayer?
[04:49] <kiyiko> i just upgraded, but now it does not load the gui, just black screen, with text...what do i do?
[04:50] <tharguy> I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10 and my wireless stopped working
[04:50]  * zambaboo giggles
[04:50] <tharguy> I have an ar5007eg wireless
[04:50] <roxan> tharguy, do you see nm applet?
[04:50] <BHSPitMonkey> tharguy, define "stopped working"
[04:50] <nergar> what others?
[04:50] <tharguy> roxan, no
, im actually using 7.04, and all my vids work exept RM files
[04:51] <roxan> tharguy, then you must have static ip?
[04:51] <zambaboo> does anyone have steam working with codeweavers? it installed fine and it runs, but the window is invisible :/
[04:51] <gwark> rm files play, but have jumpy playback
[04:51] <tharguy> roxan,  no I have a router that does dhcp
[04:51] <BHSPitMonkey> tharguy, try calling nm-applet manually, from a terminal or from alt+f2
[04:51] <BHSPitMonkey> roxan, nm-applet is always missing the first time you run 8.10 after an upgrade.
[04:51] <kiyiko> i was told i had to reconfigure X to fix, but i have n ieda what i am doing...
[04:51] <roxan> tharguy, backup /etc/network/interfaces delete it and restart
[04:52] <roxan> kiyiko, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:52] <BHSPitMonkey> tharguy, try my easier way first :P
[04:52] <Be1> when is intrepid coming out?
[04:52] <roxan> Be1, there is #ubuntu-release-party.
[04:52] <tharguy> BHS, I got the applet but it only shows my wired connection eth0
[04:53] <danbh_intrepid> !isitout | Be1
[04:53] <Be1> thanks
[04:53] <BHSPitMonkey> tharguy, and the Hardware Drivers dialog hasn't revealed itself, eh?
[04:53] <BHSPitMonkey> Try opening that up
[04:54] <tharguy> It says im using support for Atheros 802.11x wireless
[04:55] <BHSPitMonkey> Oh?
[04:55] <BHSPitMonkey> Have you rebooted this install yet?  Networking acted strangely for me during the first run after upgrading.
[04:56] <kiyiko> i dont know if it did anything...
[04:56] <BHSPitMonkey> (Yes, I know that's like a canned Windows solution)
[04:56] <tharguy> I'll try that
[04:56] <tharguy> brb
[04:57] <KDesk> How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in?
[04:57] <kiyiko> it took me through keyboard options, and such..and than said its overwriting customized data, and gave location of backup, and took me back to kiyiko@kiyiko-desktop:~$
[04:58] <kiyiko> but, didnot say anything else
[04:59] <kiyiko> restarted, and i still have no gui
[05:01] <tharguy> rebooting doesn't fix it
[05:03] <tharguy> What is the command to scan for access points?
[05:04] <KDesk> tharguy: iwlist scan
[05:06] <tharguy> KDesk, It says all my interfaces (eth0,l0,pan0) don't support scanning
[05:06] <xcerca> since i dleda BETA about a week ago is there anything really that i would have to do to 'Update' from 8.10 Beta to the Stable, or just do apt-get update ?
[05:07] <kiyiko> um....what exactlly is this "configuring xserver-xorg" suposed to do?
[05:07] <xcerca> set up your keyboard, mouse , screen...
[05:07] <zambaboo> so. sound inflash in ibex?
[05:07] <zambaboo> any hope?
[05:07] <sebsebseb> kyiko:  set  the X server up properly so you can run Gnome/KDE or some window manager
[05:07] <xcerca> sound inflash ?  or in flash ?
[05:08] <kiyiko> well, all it is doing is configuring my keyboard, then it stops
[05:08] <sebsebseb> kiyiko:  how much RAM?  how old is the computer?  Nivida or ATI graphics card?
[05:09] <crimsun> zambaboo: what about it?  We've fixed just about all the issues that we can.
[05:09] <kiyiko> 768 ram, few years old, nvidia
[05:09] <zambaboo> crimsun, no sound in flash for me
[05:09] <zambaboo> like youtube
[05:09] <sebsebseb> kiyiko: did you have have  hardy heron on it before?
[05:09] <kiyiko> yes
[05:09] <sebsebseb> and everything worked fine there
[05:09] <sebsebseb> ?
[05:09] <zambaboo> do i have to do something to make it work?
[05:09] <crimsun> zambaboo: you shouldn't have to.  fresh install or distribution upgrade?
[05:09] <kiyiko> moslty. no major issues
[05:09] <sebsebseb> zambaboo: try this  open a terminal and:  killall pulseaudio
[05:09] <sebsebseb> then try flash again
[05:12] <zambaboo> hm now no sound and flash movies die after several seconds
[05:12] <frybye> Hi - I have installed this modem as shown in http://paste.ubuntu.com/64472/ - how can I now access it and use??
[05:12] <crimsun> zambaboo: please log out of GNOME and back in, and we'll continue to troubleshoot afresh
[05:13] <kiyiko> idk, it gives the same message, as whenn i do xfix from the recovery menue
[05:13] <kiyiko> i am unsure if it accually does anything
[05:17] <kiyiko> all it says is xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possably-customized configuration file; cackup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.2008103001508
[05:17] <kiyiko> nothing else is on the screen
[05:18] <frybye> what to do when efax is looking in /dev/modem for a modem on serial port and it is in fact on a usb-connection??
[05:24] <kiyiko> :/
[05:26] <tharguy> How do I find out the interface of my wireless card?
[05:26] <tharguy> It was ath0 in 8.04.1
[05:27] <coppro> tharguy: iwlist scan
[05:27] <jemark> tharguy: iwconfig in terminal
[05:29] <kiyiko> tho....
[05:29] <tharguy> Ifconfig says no wireless extensions for lo, eth0 and pan0
[05:29] <MANlAC> Hi guys, having some problems with the behavior of my keys after upgrading. See http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/keyboard-shortcuts-not-working-after-dist-upgrade-to-intrepid-679710/ . Can someone help? Please?
[05:30] <tharguy> iwlist says all of the above interfaces don't support scanning
[05:30] <kiyiko> it does say kinit:trying to resume from *yada yada* ----   kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot
[05:30] <kiyiko> that have anyhting to do with no gi, or does it allways do that?
[05:30] <kiyiko> *gui
[05:31] <a1len> How do you do a force uninstall of something?
[05:34] <frybye> seem to have got efax to work now.. just need to test...
[05:35] <live_CD_user> ﻿does anybody know, should an md5sum of a mounted image of a hard drive be the same as the md5sum of the original hard drive (image was made with dd)? or is there a better way to ensure the image matches the original?
[05:35] <bd_> a1len: why are you trying to force it?
[05:36] <bd_> live_CD_user: once you mount it with non-read-only mode (and sometimes even with read only) the md5sum will change
[05:36] <tharguy> Would the madwifi patch here: http://madwifi.org/ticket/1192 work under 8.10?
[05:38] <maco> tharguy: did you try installing linux-backports-modules-intrepid?
[05:38] <tharguy> maco, no
[05:38] <tharguy> I will try
[05:39] <live_CD_user> bd_: oooo, so it wont work. unless... what if I mount both drives as read only? I already took the paranoid precaution of mounting the original drive as read only before I made the dd image. does that make a difference?
[05:39] <maco> tharguy: reboot after its installed
[05:39] <tharguy> ok
[05:39] <tharguy> Thanks
[05:40] <bd_> live_CD_user: ext3 will try to replay the journal no matter what
[05:40] <bd_> so it's not reliable
[05:40] <bd_> diff -R will tell you about file data changes
[05:40] <bd_> but not metadata changes
[05:46] <live_CD_user> well, its a windows drive with the usual partitions including the recovery part. But it also has an additional partition. It dual boots XP and XP (previous owner either knows much less or much more than I, as to why). so diff -R doesn't do partitions? (I'm a newbie+1/10000 experience here)
[05:49] <tharguy> The backports thing made no difference
[05:49] <a1len> bd_: I need to get rid of compiz.
[05:49] <a1len> bd_: It's acting all buggy.
[05:50] <maco> tharguy: um...odd.  its generally been that if the default doesnt work, that one does....
[05:50] <dstambou> hrmm, for some reason, my sound stops working after coming back from a suspend
[05:50] <dstambou> it happens randomly though. Sometimes it will keep workings... sometimes not
[05:51] <tharguy> I hate my wireless card soo much >:o
[05:52] <jemark> tharguy: which wireless card is it?
[05:52] <pururu> hate lead to darkside
[05:52] <tharguy> Atheros AR5007EG
[05:54] <jemark> tharguy: do: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[05:55] <tharguy> jemark, tried it no effects
[05:55] <sri> has anybody have problems with firefox 3 and hotmail (after it got upgraded from hotmail classic?)
[05:55] <jemark> tharguy: apt-get update
[05:55] <sri> sorry this was in intrepid, just making sure that it's not intrepid related.
[05:56] <sri> otherwise, i'll take my question to #ubuntu
[05:56] <tharguy> jemark, except now it also lists support for 5xxx series atheros under restricted drivers
[05:56] <jemark> tharguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6036963&postcount=4
[05:57] <tharguy> Cool, I used that in 8.04 and didn't now it is compatible with 8.10
[05:57] <jemark> tharguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958686
[05:58] <jemark> tharguy: more ppl have the same prob
[05:59] <tharguy> thanks jemark
[06:03] <jemark> tharguy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/288148
[06:04] <BHSPitMonkey> Did everyone get the base-files update?   (Please?)
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> I allowed it to install, and the postinst is stuck doing nothing.
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm going to have to ctrl-c this upgrade.
[06:05] <jemark> tharguy: http://madwifi.org/ticket/1192
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Processing triggers for man-db ...   <- stuck
[06:06] <tharguy> jemark, I'm installing that right now thanks
[06:06] <ArkoldThos> BHSPitMonkey: me
[06:06] <ArkoldThos> but i doesn't have that problem of postinst
[06:07] <Cameron> does intrepid use selinux ?
[06:07] <tharguy> Cameron, I don't think so by default
[06:08] <Cameron> tharguy: hrm.. I am using a non standard dir for mysql's datadir, and it can't startup
[06:08] <jemark> tharguy: ok ,good luck. i gotta go now
[06:08] <cpumanaz> Hello
[06:08] <MANlAC> BHSPitMonkey: Yup. I did. Performed the upgrade. No issues with it. Last 2 lines read Setting up base-files (4.0.4ubuntu2.1) ... find: `/var/cache/anthy': No such file or directory find: `/var/lib/anthy': No such file or directory
[06:08] <Cameron> tharguy: Oct 30 16:03:16 beast kernel: [58492.740115] type=1503 audit(1225346596.670:53): operation="inode_create" requested_mask="a::" denied_mask="a::" fsuid=0 name="/media/media/mysql/beast.lower-test" pid=7578 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld"
[06:09] <MANlAC> BHSPitMonkey: if you are to abruptly cancel the upgrade, would not you have to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[06:09] <Cameron> thatguy: could be apparmor
[06:11] <unique_> unique@unique-laptop:~$ sudo toshset
[06:11] <unique_> required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[06:11] <unique_> any idea?
[06:13] <tharguy> :-[ That madwifi patch worked, thanks everyone!
[06:15] <unique_> and everything will work as if i installed the full clean version?
[06:16] <rohan> can i use usb-creator in ubuntu intrepid to make a usb stick by running the ISO in a virtual machine, and making a physical usb stick?
[06:16] <rohan> that way i can avoid burning a cd completely
[06:18] <tharguy> rohan,are you running ubuntu currently?
[06:19] <rohan_> sorry, i was disconnected
[06:19] <rohan_> can i use usb-creator in ubuntu intrepid to make a usb stick by running the ISO in a virtual machine, and making a physical usb stick?
[06:19] <RAOF> rohan_: As long as USB works in your virtual machine, that should work.
[06:19] <rohan_> that way i can avoid burning a cd completely
[06:19] <rohan_> RAOF: oh ok, thank you
[06:19] <rohan_> RAOF: i'll try
[06:19] <kevin083> does anyone know if a linksys wusb54gsc will work out of the box in 8.10?
[06:20] <kevin083> i thought i read a wile back that one of the focuses for 8.10 was wireless support
[06:23] <maco> kevin083: i think it was specifically 3G wireless...
[06:23] <crimsun> (new Firefox start page is up for 8.10)
[06:24] <eross> still says coming soon on the main page
[06:24] <crimsun> eross: no, not the Ubuntu home page.  The web browser's default start page.
[06:26] <eross> oh sorry
[06:39] <unique_> when is 8.10 going to be released!!!! SOON!!!!!!!!
[06:40] <toddallen> Hi all.  I am trying to set up a dual monitor system.  Monitors are different sizes and I have not been able to figure out how to set them up as two separate resolutions.  Does anyone know if this is possible using gnome's new screen resolution features?
[06:41] <RAOF> Yes, it's perfectly possible.
[06:41] <RAOF> Driver permitting, of course :)
[06:42] <toddallen> I have an ATI driver, 5955 express M or some such.  I had tried on previous installs to get the monitors working using aticonfig but was unable to figure it out.
[06:43] <toddallen> I was hoping the new gnome screen resolution thing would allow me to set up dual-heads without editing xorg.conf as I have broken X in the past by doing so.
[06:45] <b0nn> Hi all, I've just apt-get dist-upgraded to intrepid from hardy
[06:45] <RAOF> I don't know if the fglrx driver supports XRandR 1.2, which is what that capplet uses.
[06:45] <b0nn> And X has died
[06:45] <b0nn> any ideas on what I should do?
[07:12]  * BruceChang bow
[07:17] <Flynsarmy> Have the pulseaudio issues been fixed in 8.10?
[07:18] <RAOF> WorksForMe(tm)
[07:18] <RAOF> But that question is really too open-ended to be answered properly :)
[07:18] <RAOF> The default setup should pipe everything through pulseaudio, and everything should work with it.
[07:19] <RAOF> That might be an answer to the question you wanted to ask?
[07:20] <BruceChang> RAOF: Hello. This is Bruce, new for Ubuntu 8.10. Do you know whom should I ask if I have the VESA question?
[07:20] <Flynsarmy> yep. in 8.04 my stuff is all set to alsa by default but when i change it to pulseaudio some stuff works some doesnt. for instance i'm not getting any sound in flash atm and i dunno  how to fix it
[07:21] <Flynsarmy> !ask BruceChang
[07:22] <RAOF> BruceChang: What is the VESA question?
[07:24] <BruceChang> RAOF: I can't install the Ubuntu 8.10 RC in P4 + VN896 platform and also unable to install it in VIA VX800 platform. However, I can install the Ubuntu 8.10 beta 2 in these platform. I wondere there is any change in VESA driver for RC.
[07:26] <RAOF> BruceChang: There may have been some changes?
[07:26] <RAOF> What doesn't work, and in what way doesn't it work?
[07:27] <BruceChang> RAOF: The system will hang during installation.
[07:27] <RAOF> At what point?
[07:27] <RAOF> And what, precisely, do you mean by "hang"?
[07:29] <BruceChang> RAOF: I use Ubuntu 8.10 RC desktop version. The screen will become all white without any char when I switch back to console mode from X. And then system can't accept any command including CTRL+ALT+DEL. I doubt it's the problem of (1) OpenChrome GFX driver.
[07:30] <BruceChang> raof: the other is VESA.
[07:30] <RAOF> Why are you switching to a console?
[07:31] <BruceChang> RAOF: OpenChrome driver doesn't support VX800 chipset. I need to change the xorg.conf to VESA before entering X.
[07:32] <RAOF> And the OpenChrome driver is being loaded by default?
[07:32] <BruceChang> RAOF: yes. default for VIA chipset
[07:32] <jin_> why is the package flashplugin-nonfree-pulse not in the repo? :(
[07:33] <RAOF> jin_: What would that package contain?  Has it _ever_ been in the repo?
[07:34] <RAOF> BruceChang: So, that would be a bug to file; X shouldn't be trying to load a driver that is known to not work.
[07:34] <jin_> nvm, flash works with sound :)
[07:34] <jin_> the package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound says "For PulseAudio support, see flashplugin-nonfree-pulse."
[07:35] <jin_> but that package is not int he repo
[07:35] <RAOF> Um, is there a flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package?
[07:35] <BruceChang> RAOF: I have filed in launchpad. But I think I need to try to find some solution.
[07:35] <jin_> yes, there is
[07:36] <RAOF> BruceChang: So, let's see if I've got this straight so far: You boot the desktop livecd, it goes to X, doesn't work, and when you try to change to the console the console is all white and unresponsive?
[07:36] <RAOF> jin_: Not in any repository _I_ have enabled :)
[07:36] <jin_> RAOF, then do a reload
[07:36] <RAOF> jin_: You may wish to run "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound"
[07:38] <BruceChang> RAOF: system unresponsive when going to X too. So I reboot and try to change the xorg.conf to VESA driver by switching to console mode
[07:39] <RAOF> BruceChang: "By going to console mode".  What do you actually mean here?
[07:39] <BruceChang> RAOF: And the screen become white and unresponsive
[07:40] <BruceChang> RAOF: It means I switch to console mode and try to modify the xorg.conf
[07:41] <RAOF> BruceChang: What do you mean by "console mode".  I'm not sure what you mean by that?  Is it "recovery mode"?
[07:41] <BruceChang> RAOF: CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:42] <RAOF> Right.  It's quite possible that is broken by the drivers touching things they shouldn't.
[07:42] <RAOF> So, you should be able to reboot in "recovery mode", which shouldn't start X _at all_.
[07:43] <RAOF> And by that I mean select "Recovery mode" from the grub prompt.
[07:43] <BruceChang> RAOF: then?
[07:43] <RAOF> Then edit your xorg.conf to your heart's content.
[07:43] <RAOF> If _that_ doesn't work, then your hardware is broken.
[07:44] <RAOF> (Pretty much; there aren't really any drivers involved in a text console)
[07:44] <vega> whaat, no "is intrepid out yet?!?!" questions visible on the screen?
[07:44] <RAOF> vega: Yeah.  We've trained 'em well.
[07:45] <vega> so it seems
[07:46] <BruceChang> RAOF: So it's the installation issue? Is it possible a problem for FB/VESA driver/OpenChrome driver issue?
[07:46] <scientus> what no iceweasel?
[07:46] <RAOF> BruceChang: I haven't really _seen_ an installation issue here?  The issue you've described is "X doesn't work on the livecd", yes?
[07:47] <RAOF> scientus: Indeed.  We have a fully branded firefox (or an unbranded one, if you'd prefer).
[07:47] <scientus> but there is no unbranded one, or is there "abrowser"
[07:47] <RAOF> "abrowser" is the unbranded one, yes.
[07:47] <scientus> o sweet, does it have all the anti-phishing stuff?
[07:48] <scientus> i find it funny that mozilla does all this stuff when it is actually a google service
[07:48] <scientus> m..maybe it was just a excuse
[07:48]  * RAOF isn't really sure what you're talking about.
[07:49] <scientus> ok
[07:49] <RAOF> What stuff does mozilla do?
[07:49] <scientus> part of the EULA was thinking that they wanted people to agree with phishing browser services
[07:50] <scientus> but that is a thing actually provided by google and developed by google engineers at mozilla
[07:50] <RAOF> Yeah, but it has a EULA.  Which isn't the GPL.
[07:51] <RAOF> It's not unreasonable for them to say "Oh, and that anti-phishing stuff?  That's a service, not covered by the GPL, has some privacy implications, etc.  Don't sue us".
[07:51] <scientus> but im saying that has nothing to do with firefox
[07:52] <RAOF> It _does_ have something to do with firefox.  Firefox integrates with the Google service.  Without the integration, nothing would happen.  Without the web service, nothing would happen.
[07:52] <scientus> and of course the GPL has a bunch of ITS not my fault thing
[07:52] <scientus> i guess the idea is an invasion without ones approval
[07:52] <scientus> but it certainly isnt like the Sony BMG thing :)
[07:53] <scientus> i think thats what they are worried about
[07:53] <RAOF> scientus: Right.  By using that google service, you're submitting information; specifically, you're submitting all the URLs you're visiting to google.
[07:54] <RAOF> That seems like something you'd want to notify the user about :)
[07:54] <scientus> but mozilla should not be destructive to the FOSS world, they should just say tell your users, turn it off when shipped, or rebrand
[07:54] <BruceChang> RAOF: maybe
[07:55] <scientus> it IS part of googles constant invasion of privacy however
[07:55] <scientus> and mozilla seems to enjoy taking that side rather than that of their FOSS roots
[07:57] <scientus> and then google dislikes the pushback in the quality plugins to firefox so they create a browser with so little control over privacy that you have to give everything to google
[07:58]  * RAOF , for one, welcomes his new Google overlords.
[07:58] <scientus> :P
[07:58]  * scientus admits that chrome is pretty fast and doesnt leak like firefox
[07:59] <scientus> hopefully some hackers with take it apart and add some real cool and privacy-importand features
[08:00] <RAOF> Chrome has that "privacy mode", right?
[08:02] <verwilst> hi guys!
[08:03] <verwilst> we found out TKIP isnt available as an option to connect to secured wireless networks in intrepid
[08:03] <verwilst> any ideas on that?
[08:05] <RAOF> How are you trying?  AKA: how sure are you that this isn't an option ever, rather than your wireless AP not supporting it?
[08:05] <verwilst> it worked in hardy
[08:06] <verwilst> normally when you select the access point, it selects the TKIP option
[08:06] <verwilst> which isnt available now
[08:06] <RAOF> Right.  Now it appears to automatically select the right thing.
[08:07] <verwilst> i can choose between Tunneled TLS, LEAP, TLS and PEAP
[08:07] <verwilst> no more TKIP
[08:07] <verwilst> :)
[08:07] <ahkunchan> Hi all
[08:07] <RAOF> Oh, right.  This is WPA2 enterprise.
[08:08] <verwilst> myeah i only have WEP and WPA & WPA2 Ent.
[08:08] <ahkunchan> I got a demo board from VIA. But I failed to install the Ubuntu 8.10
[08:08] <ahkunchan> I found the X driver (openchrome as default) might be the root cause.
[08:08] <mr_polite> man
[08:08] <mr_polite> its thursday
[08:09] <RAOF> ahkunchan: Yeah, someone's been in here suggesting that; please file a bug (pity it's so late, though)>
[08:09] <ahkunchan> Any parameter could help me to specify the Xdriver as default?
[08:09] <mr_polite> is the NVIDIA legacy driver ready?
[08:09] <RAOF> mr_polite: No.
[08:09] <mr_polite> no update for me
[08:09] <RAOF> ahkunchan: You can explicitly set the driver in xorg.conf, as always.
[08:09] <mr_polite> ::hugs 8.04::
[08:10] <ahkunchan> UH~~~~ may I set the default X driver to vesa, not openchrome?
[08:11] <a1len> Does anyone know how to set the icons at a bottom panel-type thing so it looks kinda like a mac?
[08:11] <ahkunchan> RAOF: Any idea? I don't want to file a bug, I just wanna Ubuntu installation well....:P
[08:12] <RAOF> ahkunchan: You could install from the alternate CD; that won't try to start X.  Alternatively, you could start the desktop CD in recovery mode, which will drop you to a console.  You can then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set the driver to vesa.
[08:13] <RAOF> verwilst: Is TKIP actually a valid authentication system for WPA2 enterprise?
[08:15] <mr_polite> a1len: avant window navigator. or just set the panel to not expand in the settings.
[08:15] <ahkunchan> RAOF: Thanks, I did that way before. I'm curious whether there are some boot opitions can let users to set ? Such as acpi=off, lapic=on|off?
[08:15] <verwilst> RAOF: it's the key type
[08:15] <verwilst> PEAP is the auth type in hardy
[08:16] <RAOF> ahkunchan: You can certainly set those options; I doubt that they'll be very useful, though.
[08:16] <ahkunchan> RAOF: So, I'm think Ubuntu installation CD/DVD might have same option for users to set the default driver for X-window...
[08:16] <a1len> mr_polite: Thanks
[08:17] <ahkunchan> RAOF: Is there booting option such as xdriver=VESA or xforceVESA in Ubuntu 8.10?
[08:17] <RAOF> Oooh.  xforcevesa might work, actually.
[08:18] <RAOF> That was a boot option at one point; I don't know if it still is.
[08:18] <scientus> how do i get a driver to compile
[08:18] <scientus> it keeps aborting
[08:18] <scientus> do i need to chroot it?
[08:18] <ahkunchan> wait a minute, let me have a try.. I will let you know later.
[08:19] <ahkunchan> BTW, when will the official Ubuntu 8.10 release? I could only find the rc version now....
[08:25] <ahkunchan> RAOF: It seems to make me another failure... I also found a similar bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/285562/
[08:59] <MrD_> Hello to all not sure if this has been asked a lot or im just a bit daft. Well ubuntu home page had a count down timer for when ubuntu was stable to download, now thats its the 30 it still says its for testing, does any one know when the stable version will be released.?
[09:00] <rski> no we don't know
[09:00] <HagenaarsDotNu> Well, the opening message in #ubuntu-release-party states that release is delayed 2 hours every time someone asks
[09:00] <wgrant> Nobody knows.
[09:00] <rski> sometime today probably.
[09:01] <MrD_> ok thanks just was hoping it wont be another week or some thing like that
[09:01] <MrD_> rski, and thank you for the reply
[09:02] <dns53> it's still makes the deadline if it's 23:59 in hawaii
[09:02] <HagenaarsDotNu> :)
[09:02] <rski> MrD_: well, the ml will give the exact date if you are subscribed to it
[09:02] <rski> when the release announcment comes.
[09:02] <kiyiko> i am having issues installing ubuntu 8.10rc
[09:02] <rski> ok kiyiko what kind?
[09:03] <HagenaarsDotNu> And Kiyiko, which version of the installition disk
[09:03] <kiyiko> i am booting live session, from my flash drive, and when i click to install, from the desktop, there is nothing listed in the partition manager
[09:03] <rski> hm so it's not detcting the disks.
[09:04] <rski> does other livecd's or whatever work
[09:04] <rski> has linux ever worked on your computer?
[09:04] <kiyiko> yes, i had 8.04, earler, and dud the distro update, but it did not go so well, so i a reinstalling with this
[09:05] <HagenaarsDotNu> Is the installation media recent?
[09:05] <HagenaarsDotNu> (i.e. downloaded the last 2 or 3 days)
[09:05] <kiyiko> yes, i just downloaded it a few hours ago
[09:06] <HagenaarsDotNu> Hmm
[09:06] <kiyiko> http://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/releases/8.10/
[09:07] <HagenaarsDotNu> That's probably the release comming out today
[09:08] <HagenaarsDotNu> Have you tried running from a CD?
[09:09] <kiyiko> i cannot, my burner is total crap, and screws everything up, even on low speeds
[09:09] <HagenaarsDotNu> This enables you to check the installation media for any issues
[09:09] <HagenaarsDotNu> Ah
[09:09] <HagenaarsDotNu> Is Ubuntu 8.04 still installed?
[09:09] <HagenaarsDotNu> (And working properly)
[09:10] <kiyiko> no, the update messed it up, somehow
[09:10] <kiyiko> i lost the gui:/
[09:10] <HagenaarsDotNu> This is probably due to video stuff
[09:11] <HagenaarsDotNu> So 8.10 is installed but non-functioning?
[09:11] <selinuxium> hi all, I am trying to get an ICON 255 3g USB modem working. Downloaded and compiled HSO and zerocd but when I plug in the USB the laptop locks up...Any ideas?
[09:12] <kiyiko> sorry, pidgin, crashed
[09:12] <HagenaarsDotNu> Hi Kiyiko, so 8.10 is installed but non-functioning
[09:12] <kiyiko> yes
[09:13] <gnomefreak> mvo: any type of upgrade need to be tested? i have a Hardy box i plan on upgrading today
[09:14] <HagenaarsDotNu> What you can do is use the grub menu to boot in to a rescue version of your current kernel, this gets you into a 'fix my ubuntu' type menu
[09:14] <kiyiko> i have been there.
[09:14] <HagenaarsDotNu> This should enable you to fix 'x'
[09:14] <mvo> gnomefreak: nothing particular but feedback is always welcome - is it special in any way (e.g. uses nvidia/fglrx)?
[09:14] <kiyiko> that did nothing for me:/
[09:15] <HagenaarsDotNu> So  you've probably tried the other fix options too?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> mvo: nvidia but no unoficial packages i dont think
[09:15] <kiyiko> yes
[09:15] <kiyiko> and i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg aswell, and the config ended after keyboard setup
[09:15] <kiyiko> well, ive done alot, but to no avail
[09:16] <HagenaarsDotNu> hmm, what type of video hardware do you use?
[09:16] <tapas> ok, since it doesn't seem to be possible to shut off the fscking pulseaudio
[09:17] <mvo> gnomefreak: ok, that sounds good, I'M looking forward to the test
[09:17] <tapas> how the hell does one at least tell it which of my three soundcards to use
[09:17] <kiyiko> nvidia gforce 6200
[09:17] <tapas> so that _i_get_to_hear_some_freaking_sound
[09:18] <gnomefreak> mvo: ok ill let you know sometime today. i have a meeting at in like 2hours and ill test when i get back
[09:18] <tapas> i wonder why for fsck's sake it has to install a virtual pcm device which then also makes _all_alsa_apps_not_produce_any_sound
[09:18] <tapas> aaaargh
[09:18] <gnomefreak> tapas: i dont think its your system.
[09:18] <tapas> gnomefreak: wud please?
[09:18]  * gnomefreak has no sound either
[09:19] <tapas> yeah, it's just another fsck'ing soundserver
[09:19] <tapas> sorry for getting excited over this..
[09:19] <tapas> ;)
[09:19] <kiyiko> it took me a few hours to get my sound set up......tho my card is not very well suported
[09:19] <HagenaarsDotNu> kiyiko:which nvidia driver are you using?
[09:19] <tapas> sound servers have never worked since i use linux
[09:19] <gnomefreak> tapas: than  maybe it is you
[09:19] <tapas> my soundcards and their alsa drivers otoh work perfectly fine..
[09:19] <gnomefreak> i had sound until the other day
[09:20] <kiyiko> um....i have no idea?
[09:20] <kiyiko> i was using the restricted drivers, ubuntu got for me, and it worked fine
[09:20] <kiyiko> i dont know what happened, durring the update
[09:20] <tapas> i am a linux audio programmer and have contributed patches to ALSA, ardour, jackd and have release some of my own utilities..
[09:20] <tapas> i know how to use soundcards in linux..
[09:21] <tapas> sound servers do have their right of existance as a way to provide an api that doesn't suck as bad as alsa's
[09:21] <tapas> but please: give me a way to turn them off
[09:21] <tapas> i'm stumped that there's no way in gnome to turn the thing of except for killing the process
[09:22] <HagenaarsDotNu> kiyiko:Well, the nv drivers aren't working for me either, have you tried uninstalling xserver-xorg-video-nv and using xserver-xorg-video-vga instead (ugly but functioning)
[09:24] <kiyiko> no, i havent
[09:24] <HagenaarsDotNu> What I've also found is that using the framebuffer device does not work
[09:25] <tapas> i guess i might try uinstalling the big meta packages and see whether i can install the individual gnome parts and just leave pulseaudio out of it
[09:25] <HagenaarsDotNu> (question 1 or 2 of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[09:25] <kiyiko> yeah, ive done both
[09:25] <kiyiko> but like i said, it stops, after the keyboard configuration
[09:25] <HagenaarsDotNu> that is very nasty
[09:26] <kiyiko> thats why i am trying to reinstall, figure it would be easier
[09:26] <HagenaarsDotNu> But uninstalling the nv drivers and installing vga or vesa might help you get X running
[09:27] <HagenaarsDotNu> (renaming xorg,conf to something else will let x auto detect)
[09:28] <kiyiko> or maybee i need different drivers?
[09:28] <kiyiko> its not REALLY nvidia
[09:28] <GibbaTheHutt> tapas, have you tried changing prefs in system->prefs->sound ?
[09:28] <kiyiko> i just allways use nvidia drivers
[09:28] <tapas> GibbaTheHutt: yes. i set everything to ALSA
[09:28] <tapas> GibbaTheHutt: the only thing that works is killing pulseaudio
[09:28] <kiyiko> its accually PNY vertigo gforce 6200
[09:28] <kiyiko> idk the difference
[09:28] <kiyiko> if any
[09:29] <tapas> GibbaTheHutt: i suspect the problem is that pulseaudio tries to use the one soundcard in my system that is _not_ connected to my mixer
[09:29] <HagenaarsDotNu> try the renaming of xorg.conf first, see if that helps (it's the least invasive)
[09:29] <tapas> and there seems to be no way to tell pulseaudio which device to use
[09:29] <GibbaTheHutt> tapas, one thing I do for some apps (mainly skype), is I amend it so it runs "pasuspender skype", however then there may be the odd issue with mixing sounds from other sources
[09:29] <kiyiko> ok, i will try that
[09:29] <dns53> install the extra pulse audio apps and make sure you are sending to the right output and that has volume
[09:29] <tapas> but i don't want to hassle with it
[09:29] <tapas> i want it switched off for good
[09:29] <tapas> i don't need no stinking desktop sounds..
[09:30] <tapas> all the apps i use know perfectly well how to use ALSA thank you
[09:32] <GibbaTheHutt> I must admit, I'm not a fan of pulseaudi either, seems like it has a way to go yet
[09:32] <GibbaTheHutt> although could be badly coded apps as well
[09:33] <tapas> no.. use the most simple alsa app possible
[09:33] <tapas> speaker-test
[09:33] <tapas> it uses the default pcm device (which is PA's virtual pcm device)
[09:33] <tapas> run it -> no sound..
[09:33] <tapas> killall pulseaudio
[09:33] <tapas> run it -> sound
[09:34] <tapas> since i have several soundcards in my system
[09:34] <tapas> i guess it simply uses the wrong one..
[09:34] <tapas> but besides fixing pulseaudio
[09:34] <tapas> there _must_ be a way to turn it off
[09:34] <tapas> not providing such a way is a bad thing [tm]
[09:35] <tapas> i need to run to uni.. i'll get excited some more tonight ;)
[09:38] <kiyiko> could not get video to work, but i think i have figured out the partitioner issue
[09:38] <HagenaarsDotNu> That's nice :)
[09:38] <kiyiko> its working now, and i THINK it might be because all of my disks were allready mounted, but i am unsure
[09:38] <kiyiko> but, thanks for the help
[09:39] <HagenaarsDotNu> you're welcome
[09:44] <larsemil> so i dont have a visile nm-applet(it is running). when running it in terminal it says no defined connections
[09:46] <matiass> hi evrebod
[09:47] <matiass> can you help me with this problem when i tried to install the intrepid beta i got this error after i booted from the disc and went to Install , here is a picture of the screen  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962936
[09:49] <matiass> ?
[09:59] <patt> hey, if i install intrepid rc, will it update to final or will i have to download the "final" - cause i think all mirrors will be quite busy when its out...^^
[09:59] <rski> patt: it will update to final no worries
[09:59] <patt> k, thx
[10:03] <larsemil> so i dont have a visile nm-applet(it is running). when running it in terminal it says no defined connections, why could that be?
[10:10] <Lunar_Lamp> .wub 42
[10:11] <Iriko> Hi, why I.Ibex is not out?
[10:11] <rski> Iriko: not time for release yet.
[10:18] <chocohoof> hi
[10:19] <dns53> hey
[10:20] <chocohoof> do somebody know why my keyboard and mice do not work at the login screen of Ibex?
[10:22] <GibbaTheHutt> hmm I had that at first, I managed to fix it, but can't remember how, think I did an update before the window login screen to fix it
[10:23] <GibbaTheHutt> I think there may also be a fix with amending xorg.conf, but may be a better way to do it
[10:23] <cwillu> Hobbsee, not just punting everyone this release?
[10:23] <chocohoof> mm a little more specific please:D
[10:24] <Hobbsee> cwillu: we will be, i assume, when it's actually released.
[10:25] <GibbaTheHutt> chocohoof, can you do anything like boot to a console where you have net access ?
[10:32] <chocohoof> um nope
[10:32] <chocohoof> i'm from the liveCD right now
[10:32] <niadh> Hey, about what time is intrepid slated for release, or will it be 'when it's done'?
[10:33] <GibbaTheHutt> chocohoof, may be worth waiting for the release then as i think its fixed
[10:33] <chocohoof> kay thx
[10:38] <chocohoof> um ihave another question
[10:39] <chocohoof> how can i manage to boot to different OS-s?
[10:39] <chocohoof> i alreaady recovered GRUB after installing windows XP
[10:40] <GibbaTheHutt> grub should give the options
[10:40] <chocohoof> um no
[10:40] <chocohoof> it just boot ubuntu
[10:40] <chocohoof> no chioce
[10:41] <chocohoof> *choice
[10:41] <GibbaTheHutt> well assuming xp is on there somewhere you could probably reinstall grub, or amend the menu.lst file in /boot/grub and point it to the windows partition
[10:42] <chocohoof> ive tried that, but. im form the livecd, and menu.lst is empty as i see, and i cannot modify it
[10:42] <GibbaTheHutt> http://rafb.net/p/tlPDvc99.html thats my windows boot section
[10:43] <GibbaTheHutt> erm just take the cd out ?
[10:43] <chocohoof> ?
[10:43] <GibbaTheHutt> if you want to boot from cd, as if its live you don't have ubuntu installed, or am I misunderstanding
[10:44] <GibbaTheHutt> so if you have no cd, it will boot from xp no ?
[10:44] <chocohoof> i have it installed, but i ccannot log in because it doesn't sense my keyboard and mice
[10:44] <scizzo-> win overwrites the grub stuff.....its hard to get it working again
[10:45] <GibbaTheHutt> chocohoof, ah I see, so you need to run from the livecd to edit the install which doesn't work you mean ?
[10:45] <scizzo-> pretty much the mbr goes *poof*
[10:45] <chocohoof> yes yes
[10:46] <GibbaTheHutt> couple of options then I guess, see if you can boot into /bash as an init I think or recovery console, see if you can mount the linux partition to somewhere like /media/ubuntu and see if you can go there and edit ...
[10:46] <chocohoof> how can i do that?
[10:46] <GibbaTheHutt> or could try another livecd from another release or small emergency distro or something
[10:47] <chocohoof> i think i put back 8.04
[10:47] <GibbaTheHutt> this is on a different pc to the one you are on ?
[10:47] <GibbaTheHutt> (now)
[10:47] <chocohoof> no
[10:47] <GibbaTheHutt> so how are you working now ?
[10:47] <dli> where is a howto for installing 8.10 from windows using usb-stick
[10:47] <chocohoof> from the ibex Release candidate liveCD
[10:48] <GibbaTheHutt> doh, so the livecd doesn't lock your mouse/keys up ?
[10:48] <chocohoof> no
[10:48] <dns53> insert any live cd, mount /mnt to your broken ubuntu, then chroot /mnt
[10:48] <chocohoof> it's working fine
[10:48] <GibbaTheHutt> yep, just mount the broken partition then
[10:48] <GibbaTheHutt> sorry I thought you had problems with both
[10:49] <chocohoof> i just cannot navigate with keyb/mice at the login screen of the already installed 8.10 login screen
[10:50] <GibbaTheHutt> ok, so mount the already installed partition into your livecd
[10:51] <chocohoof> ok
[10:51] <GibbaTheHutt> what drive/partition is it on
[10:51] <chocohoof> but how?:)
[10:52] <chocohoof> hda0,0?
[10:52] <GibbaTheHutt> is that a question or a statement :)
[10:52] <chocohoof> a question because i don't know how to check it
[10:52] <GibbaTheHutt> sudo fdisk -l may help
[10:52] <chocohoof> fdisk i remember:D
[10:53] <chocohoof> so the ubuntu 8.10 is on /dev/sda1
[10:54] <GibbaTheHutt> ok, so you could try mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ubuntu under sudo
[10:55] <GibbaTheHutt> or some similar name you will remember
[10:56] <chocohoof> i have to sudo mkdir
[10:56] <kal_> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:59] <PJim> kal_: What do you mean with that link?
[10:59] <chocohoof> okay i did that
[11:01] <chocohoof> i have to add the windows part to toe menu.lst at the new location?
[11:02] <GibbaTheHutt> yep which will allow booting of xp hopefully
[11:03] <GibbaTheHutt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/265029 I'm thinking thats maybe also the bug you have ...
[11:04] <chocohoof> the keyboard-mice bug?
[11:04] <GibbaTheHutt> so thinking you could switch to a different console, try an update, but also try those commands
[11:04] <GibbaTheHutt> yep
[11:04] <chocohoof> okay thanks
[11:04] <GibbaTheHutt> try ctrl-alt-del if really stuck I think it will restart gdm
[11:05] <GibbaTheHutt> so may be able to login then also
[11:07] <vmelo> hi, is there any usb communication issue about intrepid?
[11:07] <larsemil_> so i dont have a visile nm-applet(it is running). when running it in terminal it says no defined connections, why could that be?
[11:08] <vmelo> my laserjet 1018 is not responding everytime I need it
[11:09] <chocohoof> one more questin
[11:10] <chocohoof> where should i put the xp stanza in the menu.lst exactly?
[11:10] <jbroome_> mine is last
[11:11] <chocohoof> um
[11:11] <Hobbsee> chocohoof: somewhere not in between the "begin automatic generated kernel entries" and "end automatically generated kernel entries"
[11:11] <chocohoof> right after the block of default grub root device?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> (or similar)
[11:12] <Hobbsee> apart from that, probably doesn't matter much
[11:12] <chocohoof> okay thx
[11:13] <jbroome_> !privmsg | chocohoof
[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> good morning!
[11:16] <Awsoonn> *nom nom* gooood mornin'
[11:24] <W8TAH> i just ran the last upgrade that was available - so i should be up to the full release now, right?
[11:25] <lemonade> W8TAH: might be if there are no updates before release
[11:25] <W8TAH> kewl
[11:26] <lemonade> but anyways - it will be full if you keep updating it
[11:26] <lemonade> i guess there won't be many updates anymore, because mirroring web-images takes time
[11:26] <lemonade> *many updates (if any)
[11:27] <dns53> it's release day but they can change a few things if there are huge bugs
[11:30] <agitdd99> anyone experienced static IP setup not working on intrepid?i have tried it on beta.
[11:30] <agitdd99> was there any fix on RC release?
[11:31] <dns53> i could not get it working last time i tried
[11:31] <aguitel_> is intrepid avaleable ?
[11:31] <lemonade> not officially
[11:32] <agitdd99> Network manager new look made me confuse
[11:32] <joaopinto> agitdd99, yes, but if you are going to upgrade with the update-manager that should not be a problem
[11:32] <aguitel_> lemonade: at what time ?
[11:32] <lemonade> aguitel_: dunno
[11:32] <lemonade> today anyways
[11:33] <lemonade> ubuntu.com site will be updated when it's released
[11:33] <agitdd99> joaopinto:thanks for the info. i'll try it later
[11:33] <joaopinto> there should be no updates today, so it should be safe to use update-manger right now :)
[11:38] <reqqit> !isitoutyet
[11:40] <SiebaZ> hey
[11:41] <dany_21a_> when running a recent 8.10 (ubuntu or kubuntu) in a vmware, i always need a /etc/init.d/udev restart to get networking work.... can anybody confirm this bug?
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: actually there are!
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> from ppa's
[11:42] <X3> wheres 8.10 final release?
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> gwibber, NM dropbox etc
[11:42] <SiebaZ> my gnome does only start in secure mode... says smth pulse-session cant start or so
[11:42] <danbh_intrepid> !isitout | X3
[11:42] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_work, ppas ? I am talking about official repositories
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> is anyone getting "floating point exception" on skype 64bits?
[11:43] <BUGabundo_work> I know you are
[11:43] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: there is a Security Update by Scott James
[11:43] <qwas> ciao
[11:44] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_work, doesn't  that one go into -updates ?
[11:44] <joaopinto> erm, I mean, -security
[11:46] <BUGabundo_work> it did!
[11:47] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_work, so there are no updates to the regular repositories ;)
[11:48] <BUGabundo_work> security is a REGULAR repo, is it not?
[11:49] <joaopinto> no, security is dynamic :)
[11:50] <joaopinto> I wanted to mean release repositories, not regular :P
[11:51] <Nece228> ubuntu 8.10 today
[11:51] <Nece228> 8]
[11:52] <bahadunn> the site says "coming soon"
[11:52] <bahadunn> what does that mean?
[11:52] <bahadunn> does that mean today?
[11:52] <Nece228> this means that it will be released today
[11:52] <Nece228> but they dont know what hour it will be
[11:52] <bahadunn> okay
[11:52] <Nece228> i think it will be in night
[11:53] <bahadunn> I understand
[11:53] <Nece228> or evening
[11:53] <bahadunn> sounds good
[11:53] <Nece228> ubuntu intrepid dont have brand new icon theme
[11:54] <Nece228> ubuntu braked two promise two times
[11:54] <Nece228> ubuntu 8.04 shoulded have new theme, but they deffered it to 8
[11:54] <Nece228> .10
[11:55] <Nece228> and here 8.10 but still no new theme
[11:55] <Nece228> i think that 9.04 will not have brand new theme too
[11:57] <a00001> hello, after upgrading to 8.10 i cannot get into graphical mode.
[11:57] <a00001> xfix just removes all drivers from xorg.conf, is that what it should do?
[11:58] <a00001> we're on x64/nvidia quadro fx 570
[11:58] <zubatac> sound intel help me, please
[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> a00001: did you read the release notes?
[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> don't you have an old NVidia?
[12:00] <a00001> no it's a new one
[12:00] <scizzo-> zubatac: maybe explain what the problem is then someone might be able to answer
[12:00] <zubatac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64562/
[12:00] <a00001> it is in the list of supported cards both by glx and the nv driver
[12:01] <a00001> but i cannot get into gdm with any of them
[12:01] <scizzo-> a00001: and what driver is installed?
[12:01] <scizzo-> a00001: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[12:02] <a00001> last lines of xorg log: (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs /// (II) Primary Device is:  /// (EE) No devices detected. /// Fatal server error: /// no screens found
[12:02] <scizzo-> zubatac: still does not help anyone
[12:02] <a00001> scizzo-: ive tried nv, glx173 and 177
[12:03] <demontager> Is it 8.10 oficilaly relese could be downloaded?
[12:03] <scizzo-> a00001: wait.....in the driver section in the xorg.conf you have nvidia and not nv, glx or something like that
[12:03] <scizzo-> demontager: its not out yet
[12:03] <scizzo-> demontager: read the topic
[12:03] <demontager> but why say 30 october? So when?
[12:04] <scizzo-> demontager: well its still 30th october.....there is no _time_ set only date
[12:04] <zubatac> no sound
[12:04] <s0u][ight> demontager: during today it will be released
[12:04] <Pici> !party
[12:05] <demontager> what time? In GMT?
[12:05] <Pici> demontager: When its done.
[12:05] <scizzo-> Pici: think he wants it in nano seconds also.... ;)
[12:05] <demontager> ok, i'll wait a while
[12:06] <Pici> demontager: You can await the release in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:06] <scizzo-> a00001: you should probably try to reconfigure the drivers....that is reinstall the drivers and check xorg.conf again
[12:06] <kal_> demontager : it's already released :  http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:06] <demontager> no i need 64bit AMD
[12:07] <kal_> demontager : then see here :  http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:07] <sunil> can anyone tell me how to install firefox 2 on ubunto 8.10?
[12:08] <sunil> I was able to install it on 8.4, but I can't find apt sources for it now
[12:08] <demontager> so can I download it now? Is it official? http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:08] <sunil> I'm happy with ff3, but I need 2 as well
[12:09] <kal_> yep, it's just waiting for official announcement, but that will be this iso image
[12:09] <RAOF> demontager: No, it's not official.
[12:09]  * RAOF notes that it's not official until it's been officially announced.
[12:09] <demontager> but all changes already done?
[12:10] <Pici> no
[12:10] <Pici> Please stop asking.
[12:10] <RAOF> We won't _know_ that all changes are done until it's announced that all changes are done.
[12:10] <kal_> demontager : yep ;p
[12:11]  * scizzo- wonders why its hard to wait for the announcement
[12:11] <demontager> a good, i'll better wait until announcment
[12:12] <reqqit> hello ubuntuers. I am running irritated ibex (any word on Jovial Jackal?) I am googling around and I cannot get word on configuraing scp max connections and TTL
[12:21] <cristobalcolon> hey guys, ive installed ubuntu in a pendrive, i want to know if theres a way to update that installation from my HD installation... like using chroot or something...
[12:23]  * SiebaZ is away (homeworks)
[12:25] <cristobalcolon> how do i do it
[12:26] <Ciorapel>  Does anybody know if the RC has been changed in anyway since it was public for download ? I had a big problem with the RC and I want to know if is any chance for that problem to re-appear ?
[12:26] <BUGabundo_work> Ciorapel: is it on LP?
[12:27] <Ciorapel> LP ?
[12:27] <Tesla|Work> Ciorapel: compare md5?
[12:28] <Ciorapel> I deleted the image I used to install the specific RC
[12:29] <Ciorapel> My problem with the RC : Ubuntu loads, but I encounter a blank screen instead of my desktop, from time to time, screen flickerd and the terminal appeard for 4-5 seconds; then blank again ... and so on ..
[12:29] <unenough> so when is the release?
[12:30] <dns53> "soon"
[12:30] <unenough> that i know
[12:30] <Ciorapel> So anybody had this problem before ? (I use ATI Radeon x1250)
[12:31] <unenough> what problem?
[12:31] <ktogias> Will #ubuntu+1 be closed down at some time for the release?
[12:32] <Ciorapel> My problem with the RC : Ubuntu loads, but I encounter a blank screen instead of my desktop, from time to time, screen flickerd and the terminal appeard for 4-5 seconds; then blank again ... and so on ..
[12:32] <joshual> why would it close?
[12:33] <unenough> Ciorapel, ah, i have the same card but didn't install the RC yet. Fortunately :)
[12:33] <Ciorapel> I hope it has good ATI and Atheros support :|
[12:34] <unenough> me too
[12:34] <unenough> otherwise i'll stick to ubuntu-1
[12:34] <Ciorapel> No, I'm the kamikaze guy :D
[12:34] <Ciorapel> Plug-in the cable and take 8.10 for a spin :D
[12:35] <ktogias> I am not sure if I remember well, but I think that just after every release #ubuntu+1 is closed down for a while in order for the chat about the new release to be transfered to #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 get about the old ubuntu ++1 ...
[12:35] <chadeldridge> How long does it generally take to get a bug assigned and started ?
[12:36] <bucket529> chadeldridge: Depends on the bug, how well it's written, and the quality of supporting attachments
[12:39] <bucket529> chadeldridge: Why? You got a bug?
[12:40] <chadeldridge> bucket529: yeah a pretty annoying one that seems to be new in 8.10, it wasnt an issue in 8.04:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/290774
[12:45] <firestorm> Hi there. On intrepid 8.10 I find that if my wireless card is set to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces, ubuntu startup hangs. Anybody able to confirm?
[12:47] <bucket529> chadeldridge: Nice report. Looks to me like you've submitted it to four different teams. You might go back and 'Invalid' the non-compiz teams, since you narrowed it. You have a possibility of 'Confirm', too.  Looking through the list right now for possible duplicates
[12:47] <bucket529> Compiz has a lot of open bugs, of course.
[12:50] <Cruster> hi all
[12:50] <dns53> hi
[12:51] <Cruster> is it safe to install yesterdays daily build and just upgrade later? Is there any big difference?
[12:52] <jrib> Cruster: that should be fine
[12:52] <dns53> there should not be any problems most of the time, especially this close to release, it may be the exact image they release
[12:52] <reqqit> Cruster, they will be making hundreds of submits and changes at the last minute!
[12:52] <bucket529> ﻿chadeldridge: Didn't find any duplicates. Generally, you should hear from a triager within a week or so. Often much sooner.
[12:53] <chadeldridge1> bucket529: ok thank you .. its not show stopping because the config i have is very "odd" but hopefully they will figure it out.  I am almost sure its a bug in compiz
[12:53] <Cruster> hmmmm two different opinions....
[12:54] <fr00d> Hello!
[12:54] <chadeldridge1> bucket529: did i provide enough relevant detail in that post ?
[12:54] <fr00d> Since today my audacius ends with a segfault. Is that a known issue?
[12:56] <bucket529> ﻿chadeldridge1: Probably, but I cannot say definitely. I don't use compiz, so I don't know enough about it.
[12:57] <chadeldridge1> bucket529: np .. thanks
[13:00] <botparty> Hobbsee, its out you muppet
[13:00] <botparty> why did you ban me/
[13:00] <botparty> http://ftp.heanet.ie/disk1/ubuntu-releases/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:00] <Hobbsee> botparty: trust me, it isn't.
[13:00] <botparty> click the link
[13:00] <Hobbsee> i'm on the release team.
[13:00] <Hobbsee> they may not be final images.
[13:00] <botparty> well they changed it in the last min hmm
[13:01] <botparty> they had rc there 2 mins ago
[13:01] <botparty> weird
[13:01] <botparty> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/ has changed too
[13:01] <botparty> are you sure? its not out
[13:01] <Hobbsee> yes, i'm sure.
[13:01] <botparty> ok
[13:04] <Cruster> well, as you are in the release team you could inform us about thecorrect one :P
[13:04] <Hobbsee> I could.  But i'm not going to.
[13:04] <Hobbsee> because i'd prefer to let things happen in order.
[13:04] <chadeldridge1> *thinks everyone should just assign sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to every key on their keyboard and faceroll ... and stop asking
[13:04] <scizzo-> haha
[13:05] <noelferreira> how much time for the release?
[13:05] <scizzo-> chadeldridge1: create a script that runs it now and then ? haha
[13:05] <chadeldridge1> noelferreira: never stop asking
[13:05] <scizzo-> noelferreira: sometime today
[13:06] <noelferreira> do you know if the issue with xorg and nvidia drivers for old cards will be corrected in the final version?
[13:06] <JontheEchidna> noelferreira: nvidia hasn't updated them, so no
[13:07] <hankdogdaddy> question... how do the server editions, in this case, 8.10 server edition, handle wireless?
[13:07] <noelferreira> JontheEchidna, where can i check which cards are supported?
[13:07] <s0u][ight> noelferreira: linuxwireless.org
[13:08] <JontheEchidna> noelferreira: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[13:08] <noelferreira> s0u][ight, not me
[13:08] <scizzo-> JontheEchidna: its not out yet
[13:08] <scizzo-> JontheEchidna: its not official
[13:08] <JontheEchidna> scizzo-: those are the release notes which show which nvidia cards are supported
[13:08] <JontheEchidna> :/
[13:08] <scizzo-> JontheEchidna: ops.....release notes sorry
[13:08] <scizzo-> JontheEchidna: haha
[13:08] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[13:09] <scizzo-> i'll just go and hide in the corner
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> noelferreira: anyway, see the "nVidia "legacy" video support" section
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> :P
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> don't worry, I'm just as annoyed with the "omg is it teh releasedz???" as you
[13:09] <noelferreira> JontheEchidna, geforce fx 5200 is one of the ones?
[13:09] <rgreening> meh.. install the RC and update from there.. no real difference
[13:09] <rgreening> :)
[13:10] <chadeldridge1> JontheEchidna: yar
[13:10] <JontheEchidna> noelferreira: geforce fx 5200 seems to be supported
[13:10] <badpanther> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[13:10] <ahuinker> anyone know how the server edition(no gui) connects to a wireless network?
[13:10] <rgreening> wwwwwwwwwwhat?
[13:10] <rgreening> lol
[13:10] <JontheEchidna> chadeldridge1: yes, your card is supported
[13:11]  * JontheEchidna just checked the driver description to make sure
[13:11] <chadeldridge1> chadeldridge1: huh ?
[13:11] <badpanther> haha
[13:11] <noelferreira> JontheEchidna, it seems so. and do you think that nvidia will release some drivers for the other cards compatible with the xorg or shoud i think in stole other card?
[13:11] <JontheEchidna> chadeldridge1: oops, my bad
[13:11] <chadeldridge1> lolz
[13:11] <chadeldridge1> :-D
[13:13] <rgreening> mvo: *** poke * poke * poke *** time to look at the apt fix I fwded :)
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> blah
[13:15] <scizzo-> are there actually options to try out ext4 in intrepid RC+ releases or will that need a new compiled kernel?
[13:15] <KRossKoWolf> So this is the Ibex support channel yea
[13:16] <chadeldridge1> KRossKoWolf: yes whats your question
[13:17] <KRossKoWolf> Well I am trying to get blackbox to work correctly, with menus and all, but no matter what I can't seem to get it to work
[13:21] <KRossKoWolf> nevermind, it seems to have decided it wants to work now, ohh well, thanks much
[13:30] <chadeldridge1> .
[13:33] <repete> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:33] <repete> doh!
[13:34] <bsnider> there's nobody in that channel
[13:34] <bsnider> we all hopped in a stretch limo and drove down to vegas last night
[13:34] <bsnider> now we've got a huge hangover
[13:34] <Pretto> Hobbsee, http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ isn't the final release?
[13:35] <Hobbsee> Pretto: it may not be.
[13:35] <Pici> bsnider: 504 people is nobody?
[13:35] <Hobbsee> it wasn't yesterday
[13:35] <definitely> Hello, i have one prob with nvidia-settings, when i try to save the configuration into Xorgconf file, the program closes
[13:36] <bsnider> Pici, oops. i used the link in the topic. she's got double quotes at the end, so it ends up being the wrong channel
[13:36] <Pici> bsnider: ah.
[13:36] <Pici> bsnider: fixed
[13:36] <bsnider> cool
[13:37] <wolfie2x> question on boot speed: how long do u guys experience from power-on to actual workable desktop?
[13:37] <wolfie2x> assuming u login immediately ~1sec
[13:37] <wolfie2x> it takes a good 1.5 mins for me
[13:37] <bsnider> wolfie2x, 30 seconds to login screen. 30 more seconds with compiz and awn, but less if you've got a plain desktop
[13:38] <bsnider> gnome does not get from a login screen to a desktop quickly at all
[13:38] <chadeldridge1> wolfie2x: around 30-40 seconds total
[13:38] <wolfie2x> bsnider: i got the 30 secs to login after turning off some services
[13:38] <wolfie2x> but it takes a good minute more after that
[13:38] <zomgzomgzomgzomg> :( banned from 3ubuntu-release-party
[13:39] <wolfie2x> bsnider: is KDE faster?
[13:39] <LjL> zomgzomgzomgzomg: this is not the place to discuss that, ask in #Ubuntu-ops
[13:39] <bsnider> wolfie2x, that's very possible
[13:39] <bsnider> i don't use it
[13:39] <vistakiller> ubuntu is out!!
[13:39] <definitely> anyone  ?
[13:39] <Pici> !isitout
[13:39] <vistakiller> no sorru :P
[13:39] <bsnider> DeFi, that's a known bug
[13:39] <vistakiller> sorry
[13:40] <bsnider> definitely, that's a known bug
[13:40] <definitely> So it will be fixed soon or how ?
[13:40] <xukun> Anybody know how long it will take before we could download?
[13:40] <bsnider> defintely, no
[13:41] <definitely> bsnider: How to workaround this then ?
[13:42] <vistakiller> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.10/
[13:42] <vistakiller> edo einai
[13:43] <Hobbsee> Same rules apply here as #u-r-p.  Sigh.
[13:43] <s0u][ight> join #ubuntu.tr
[13:43] <definitely> bsnider: umm ?
[13:44] <bsnider> Hobbsee, nobody reads the topic, is the issue
[13:44] <wolfie2x> anybody using virtual box on intrepid experiencing frequent crashes lately?
[13:44] <Hobbsee> bsnider: well, that's not really my problem, and maybe they will after they've been forbidden from reentering...
[13:44] <Hobbsee> bsnider: no one's invented face-smacking-over-IRC yet, unfortunately.
[13:44] <bsnider> rigth, it's their problem
[13:45] <bsnider> if only you could send hired goons after them
[13:45] <xukun> Hobbsee, I,m missed the topic also, should not I download yet?
[13:45] <bsnider> definitely, you can try to create a custom xorg.conf by hand. sound like fun?
[13:45] <definitely> Sound likes i have no expierence :D
[13:46] <definitely> sounds like''
[13:46] <bsnider> definitely, what do you need it to do? is this two monitors or some such thing?
[13:47] <definitely> bsnider: So set it automatically to use only 85 Hz, coz after reboot it resets to 60
[13:47] <definitely> :(
[13:47] <definitely> 60 is not very good for eyes
[13:47] <chadeldridge1> wolfie2x: none at all .. what version are you using OSE ?
[13:49] <bsnider> definitely, refresh rate is not an option in xorg.cinf that i'm aware of
[13:50] <definitely> bsnider: aa :( i though xorg can also control it
[13:50] <chadeldridge1> bsnider: you can control refresh rate in xorg.conf
[13:50] <definitely> How ?
[13:50] <bsnider> definitely, you could try adding a monitor section with horizsync/vertrefresh values, if you know them. i don't know if that would help. your monitor's edid is likely broken (a lot of them are)
[13:51] <definitely> i dont know xorg at all..
[13:51] <definitely> I'm always using same screen resolution and same refresh rate..
[13:51] <bsnider> definitely, is it also picking the wrong resolution?
[13:51] <chadeldridge1> definitely: just what bsnider said the options are located in the section "monitor" and listed as Horizsync and vertrefresh
[13:51] <definitely> but refresh rate is going to be reseted afer reboot
[13:52] <definitely> My xorg.conf is quite empty.
[13:52] <definitely> wait i will pastebin it
[13:52] <bsnider> there is no monitor section anymore. you'll have to add it manually
[13:52] <chadeldridge1> definitely: yeah in 8.10 is is
[13:52] <definitely> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64618/
[13:53] <td123> hmm, can't wait till ibex comes out and all the servers' bandwidth plummet
[13:54] <janaus1> hi is intrepid and lvm on software raid booting borked?
[13:54] <bsnider> definitely, so you've got a monitor section. you can google xorg.conf and find examples of monitor sections. just copy what's there. dmesg should give yout he vertrefresh/horizsync values the nvidia driver found
[13:54] <definitely> what is dmesg ?
[13:55] <joaopinto> definitely, open a terminal and type: man dmesg
[13:55] <td123> it displays errors that happened
[13:55] <joaopinto> it's the system log
[13:56] <definitely> ok thnx
[13:59] <troal01> Has anyone had any GUI glitches with 8.10?
[13:59] <mphill> '/join #ubuntu
[13:59] <ktwo> hi i installed Xfce and KDE on ubuntu and now instead of the "ubuntu" bootscreen i get "kubuntu" anyone knows how to revert that?
[13:59] <definitely> VertRefresh means Hz ?
[13:59] <definitely> if i set it to 85 it will use 85 Hz always ?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ktwo , uninstall kubuntu-desktop and install gnome-desktop
[14:00] <td123> troal01: yes but it happened in earlier releases (beta/alpha)
[14:01] <troal01> Is the version I got through the package manager 8.10 rc1?
[14:01] <bsnider> definitely, no, you're way off. google this and research it so you know what you're doing
[14:02] <definitely> bsnider:  ?
[14:02] <definitely> ouh
[14:03] <definitely> HorizSync is Hz maybe ?
[14:03] <td123> hz = hertz
[14:03] <definitely> ... doh
[14:04] <wolfie2x> can someone just check if http://www.virtualbox.org/ is down.. weird..
[14:04] <troal01> wolfie2x: confirmed
[14:04] <wolfie2x> troal01: thx
[14:05] <KDesk> How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in?
[14:11] <LjL> INTREPID IS OUT - Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Support in #ubuntu - This channel is about to close
[14:14] <LjL> INTREPID IS OUT - Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Support in #ubuntu - This channel is about to close