[00:00] the same computer with the ubuntu 7.04 works perfect [00:00] so you took the same steps to gain internet access? [00:00] yes [00:00] obocaman, can you ping your router? [00:01] i get ip addres from the dhcp server from the router [00:01] yes [00:01] even i can do pingo to google.com [00:01] but with firefox i cant [00:01] or the synaptic [00:01] only works the ping [00:02] well if you get a ping response but can't access the same server with firefox it sounds like a firefox issue to me [00:02] oh ok [00:02] but in other routers firefox works fine [00:02] i think is something with the router i have and the ubuntu 8.10 [00:02] what version of alsa will be included in ibex? [00:02] I'm out for a smoke, I'll get back at you in a couple of minutes [00:03] ok [00:04] say something when your back [00:07] if i down load ubuntu tonight, can i upgrade to the released version? [00:08] My video camera fails to create a /dev/video0 node when plugged in more than one time. what package should this be reported against? [00:09] udev perhaps? [00:09] will gnome global menu be included in intrepid? [00:16] ds[de are you bsck? [00:17] back? [00:19] chsty_g4: my nvidia drivers work fine so you need to be more specific about your issue [00:19] Hey, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and the themes i normally use dont work right with it...on gnomelook.org what would be the proper section to look at for themes for ubuntu 8.10? [00:19] ASrock: what do you mean exactly by "work right" [00:19] i've got a geforce3 ti200 (i think) and the old drivers that were in 8.4 (i think) aren't working anymore [00:20] um i forgot the exact error message but they look really goofy like on my panels the ends are black and the middle stays white and transparent [00:20] when i try to compile cairo-doc i get the following message `AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library does anyone know how to fix ? [00:21] when i went to gnomelook.org i used the section "GTK 2.x" is that the wrong type to be working for or should i look for metacity or compiz? [00:22] chad: you mean cairo-dock? [00:22] chad: "aren't working"? what exactly happens? [00:22] chsty_g4: "aren't working"? what exactly happens? [00:23] jrib: sorry .. i got it :-D [00:23] * jrib curses tab complete [00:23] chad: you know cairo-dock is in the repositories right? [00:23] ASrock: should be fine. Try a different theme [00:24] night [00:24] the gtk 2.x themes will work [00:24] you download it [00:25] jrib: yeah but i want the newest version from svn .. i need a bug fix in it [00:26] open system---> preferences-->appearance [00:26] and drag the new theme into [00:27] hey guys, having trouble with the ati xorg driver in 8.10, can't get any acceleration it seems...every boot it asks if I want to use low graphics mode or reconfigure/check logs/etc [00:27] also having to restart networking after every resume from suspend [00:27] jrib: i had to manually tell the panel to use the theme...then it worked fine...exept my workspace switcher still lookes a little weird...is there any way i can edit how that looks? [00:27] ASrock: not sure about that [00:28] i cant acces internet with ubuntu 8.10 and a router zyxel prestige 643 [00:29] jrib, with default drivers, the geforce is unable to use the compiz effect [00:30] when i run the nvidia x server settings, i am told that i do not have drivers installed anymore [00:31] does the new ubuntu drop tonight at 12? [00:31] I heard 2200 [00:31] ibex is going legit? [00:31] it depends from where you live [00:31] or you mean another beta build [00:32] cob: release I think [00:32] wow, that was fast [00:32] not a very long rc [00:32] cob: join #ubuntu-release-party for more info [00:36] you guys are cutting this kinda fine, no? :P [00:37] Well, in my timezone they have a nother 12 hours [00:37] i feel special there... got invited to a release party... *sniff... [00:38] 06:00 in what time zone [00:38] that is a really important detail, lol [00:39] They go by GMT so they still have just under two days to make the 8.10 date but still... :P [00:39] +f? [00:48] There's no point in rushing it if it's not ready [00:49] hello [00:49] how can I use rsync to update an iso to the latest daily? [00:50] pliz help i deleted a panel and i cant get it bavk [00:50] back [00:51] i have upgraded to intrepid and now when i click in any option in sites menus it opens Rithmbox!!!! [00:52] why? [00:52] which panel? [00:52] menu [00:52] sites [00:53] top [00:53] in the browser? [00:53] in the menu of gnome [00:53] top menu bar [00:54] start it manually [00:55] do gnome-panel in shell [00:55] hi people, if i do update-manager -d now, will i be able to update to the actual release once it is out? [00:55] ok, Volkodav [00:55] but thats no the solution [00:55] to my problem [00:56] I want my sites like in hardy [00:56] previously to upgrade to intrepid [00:57] "A panel is already running. [00:57] " [00:57] so... [00:57] if the current rc is similar to release, ibex has regressed on my machine :( [00:57] so you have bottom panel not the upper one? [00:57] how can i manually edit the sites menu ? [00:58] sites? [00:58] mmmm [00:58] the truth is that i was playing with 2 monitors [00:58] heh [00:58] and it is posible that that panel is not the original one [00:58] ... [00:58] thats the reason? [00:58] dual head is different [00:59] maybe intrepid get mad [00:59] with this panel [00:59] i erased the other panel [00:59] maybe the original panel [00:59] are you back to single head or still in dual? [00:59] single [01:00] Documents Home Images alll opens Rythmbox [01:00] !!!! [01:00] heh [01:01] tell me Volkodav [01:02] kill all panels and create bottom fist then add the top [01:02] and then restart X [01:02] well thanks [01:02] i will do it [01:02] np [01:02] but now i have to go to bed [01:02] bye [01:03] see you next time here... [01:03] probably... [01:03] ;) [01:03] ;) [01:05] Hi Guys. Is the LPIA good for Atom processor? I mean: Is Atom belonging to the LPIA architecture? [01:06] hello [01:07] hry [01:07] *hey [01:08] bloopletech: :) do you know @ what time the new ubuntu 8.10 will be released? :) [01:09] How do I make my max resolution 1024x768? [01:09] is there anyone experienced static IP setup didn't work out in the late release of intrepid? [01:09] No, it will be out when it's ready. You can hang out in #ubuntu-release-party for more info, however they might not like it if you sake when 8.10 is coming out [01:09] i got this problem when i run the beta version [01:09] bloopletech: yeah [01:15] Do you know if I could take the Ubuntu LiveCD, replace the default GNOME backgroud? [01:16] I'd like to modify the default background for new users, and distribute it on a LiveCD [01:16] And maybe some other GNOME hacks [01:16] I'm curious. Is the lack of packages in my repository due to Intrepid not being released yet or me on AMD64 Architecture? [01:17] I mean I have some [01:17] but I'm missing like Konversation [01:17] which is what I use on this PC to do IRC :) [01:17] powerking: Is Universe enabled? [01:17] uhhh....prolly not, I'll check after the updates are installed [01:18] how many hours left until final? [01:18] pipeline_: thanks for asking, now it's two more than before. [01:18] powerking: kdesudo software-properties-kde [01:18] make sure universe is enabled [01:18] i got 8.10 BETA, and I've been steadily updating it ever since, would I want to reinstall when final is released? Or shall I just keep it, with the updates I've applied? [01:18] its not released yet , it says coming soon on th e site [01:18] Thedjatclubrock: you will have to extract the iso file [01:18] will that still work if I'm in gnome? [01:19] oh wait, konversation is in main [01:19] hmm [01:19] strange [01:19] pipeline_: same thing, just keep up with updates and you'll be at final [01:19] yea, it tells me its not in the repo [01:19] Daisuke_Ido: what? [01:20] pipeline_: if you keep the beta updated, it will eventually be the same as the final release [01:20] Daisuke_Ido: hm. [01:20] thanks. [01:20] Hoover_4000: Where is the file, I have extracted it. [01:20] pipeline_: that's what i'm doing :) [01:20] not so sure [01:20] powerking: according to this it should have built on all architectures some months ago. [01:21] Daisuke_Ido: why i'm asking is because there are still a few bugs in place. [01:21] Thedjatclubrock: not sure guess you will have to check [01:21] Daisuke_Ido: but i guess they'll all be resolved with fixes, eitherway. [01:21] oh, forgot to paste the link [01:21] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/1.1-0ubuntu2 [01:21] yea. I think this most recent update broke my installation. [01:21] It worked before >.> [01:22] lets try a cold boot. [01:22] gah. shit. same thing [01:22] ikonia, any luck with testing intrepid with Xen on AMD64? [01:23] powerking: maybe you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? [01:23] doesnt matter now [01:23] latest update broke my installation. [01:23] oh, nice [01:23] No. not really. [01:23] * Daisuke_Ido strangles the people on launchpad that can't read [01:23] powerking: How do you mean? [01:24] I mean [01:24] I boot [01:24] it gets past grub [01:24] says [01:24] "Boot from (hd0,0) ext 3 gives some spam that looks like a hash of some sort [01:24] goes to the next line [01:24] and does blinking cursor of death [01:24] forever. [01:24] posted my question about kaudiocreator's existence in *intrepid* and got https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+question/49360 [01:24] powerking: Is your initd correct? [01:25] say what. [01:25] maybe. [01:25] if you haven't touched it, there's no reason it shouldn't be, and a pretty poor sort of update if it's wrong [01:26] I'll try to boot to the old kernel [01:26] it installed a new kernel version [01:26] Oh, joy. The old kernel isnt there anymore. [01:27] Odd [01:27] powerking: Is your HD alright? [01:27] recovery console works [01:27] It better be. [01:27] there, works from recovery console [01:27] after hitting "resume normal boot" [01:28] heh. this is what I get for using RC :p [01:28] RC works for me :P [01:29] get 133 updates, and it wont :p [01:29] there's nothing wrong with the rc [01:29] at least for AMD64 [01:29] you're right [01:29] the RC works. The updates to it break the install :P. At least it did this time. Maybe its a random problem. [01:29] does anyone know if I can run 32 bit applications on ubuntu-64bit ? [01:30] you can. afaik [01:30] like what? [01:30] joshual: yea [01:30] bsnider: ermm not really sure what yet, just wondering if I should give it a go [01:30] cool thx [01:30] just use something named getlibs or smth~ [01:30] :P oki [01:31] joshual, all the repository stuff is available in amd64. 3d games are 32 bit but work anyway [01:31] when updates for final are coming :O? [01:31] how about if I were to run a 32 bit game using wine or something? [01:31] GAH. Now it booted to the version without the blacklisted PCI thing so wireless is borked [01:31] there's no reason not to use amd64 if you have the hardware for it. [01:31] ah perfect :) [01:31] awesome thanks bsnider I'll do it then :) [01:31] joshual: you need to install some 32 bits libraries and stuff [01:31] as soon as kubuntu 8.10 is released that is [01:31] ArkoldThos: is there a meta package for that? [01:32] jtechidna: yeah, that pretty much covered the question, i'll see if i can find it via another source [01:32] linus himself recently attacked some of the x devs for not using amd64. [01:32] normal boot works now. After I did it through the recovery console. [01:32] Daisuke_Ido: if you can get the hardy deb you should be able to install it, I'd think [01:32] I knew it was a random problem. Thats what it always is with me. The Linux gods do it to laugh at my angst. [01:32] your mileage may vary (tm) [01:32] joshual: nope [01:33] anyone else having weird re-drawing problems with gnome-terminal in Intrepid? [01:33] hrmm ArkoldThos ok, i'll look for a how to [01:33] ia32-libs [01:33] is a package with some very important libraries [01:34] okee thx [01:35] jtechidna: tried that and it wouldn't work, dependency not satisfiable (kdemultimedia-kio-plugins) [01:35] ah, right [01:35] i might see if i can grab something else [01:35] i just really liked that one :( [01:36] Hello to all ... I have one question about 64bit Ubuntu :) [01:36] ripperx... sounds dangerous [01:36] Will be there any performance slowdowns when runing 32bit app on it? [01:37] no there will not [01:37] although it's questionable whether you'd ever need a 32 bit app [01:37] for exaple wine :) [01:38] I compile wine, I'm not using precompiled version ... [01:38] will I have problems? :D [01:38] that's on you [01:39] so will 8.10 come out at 12am greenwich mean time... or? [01:40] hi, anyone noticed a series of frequent system beeps when starting or shutting down or suspending (haven't tested hybernating), on an x64 upgrade from updated 8.04 to latest rc? hardware: athlon64, nvidia n4force chipset and 9800gx2. I'm noticing it around during when grub loads to the graphical boot [01:40] or heard of it [01:41] everybody's had that issue [01:41] you can blacklist the snd_pcspkr module [01:41] is there a bug filed then? [01:42] i think it's mostly fixed [01:42] Ugh. Why wont this driver start. [01:42] what driver? [01:42] atheros 802.11 wireless LAN [01:43] was working just fine, and then I did that update [01:43] i'm sitting here using ulteo until i can d/l a copy of 8.10 [01:43] powerking, you need the backports package for that [01:43] now the system starts with it disabled, and wont enable it. [01:43] which package is that. [01:43] the ath5k in the kernel was blacklisted in favour of a better one in the backports package [01:44] yea. ath5k was working just fine >.> [01:44] whats the package name [01:44] linux-backports-modules [01:44] ripperx isn't terrible, but it's not the shining beacon of awesomeness i was hoping for :\ [01:45] sure? it said it couldn't find it. and I'm connected to a wired connection, and it works [01:45] that's the relevant part of the name. i'm assuming you're searching in synaptic [01:45] !bug 255590 [01:45] Launchpad bug 255590 in linux "System beep goes nuts on start up" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255590 [01:45] no, that'd be the smart thing to do. [01:45] :p [01:46] ^^for anyone else that wants to reference it [01:46] swgpr3cu [01:46] hehe, wrong IRC channel [01:48] yea, synaptic found nothing [01:49] powerking: sure that's not your sudo password? [01:49] yeup :) [01:50] I'd change it if I were you [01:50] svn password to a project of mine (not on this server either, so :) ) [01:51] powerking, linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic [01:53] wonder /j #linux [01:53] oops [01:54] apt get found it :) [01:57] heya all [01:57] i get this error when i try to use my webcam, it uses the OV511 chipset: can not open /dev/video0 (No space left on device) any ideas? [01:58] so, when i go to the gimp folder (it's in usr/share/gimp/2.0) why does it say 2.0? when I type gimp to run it, it runs 2.6... [02:00] maybe because the folder name doesn't care about the minor revision number [02:08] Is there any exact time for the Intrepid release? [02:10] michelecs: no [02:11] i guess there are many already upgrading.. i am upgrading and it is fairly slow going.. [02:12] is there a channel for the release party? [02:12] Can anyone help me get the java plugin working for firefox 3.0.3? I installed the OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start and the OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime but that didn't seem to do it... [02:13] dnb1997, no, we're all just going to hop in a limo and head to vegas instead. [02:13] dnb1997: #ubuntu-release-party [02:13] dnb1997: #ubuntu-release-party [02:13] :) === burner1 is now known as burner [02:14] anyone? [02:16] lobo235: you also need the package icedtea6-plugin, I think [02:16] ok, i'll try that [02:22] wgrant: you here? [02:25] ok, need a guru to answer this. I have a custom built initrd with a custom patched dmraid for my system. Will upgrading to 8.10 break this? [02:26] Has anyone noticed ext3 file corruption? I've installed on 3 different machines using manual partitioning and each machine I've used can't be backed up with Acronis True Image or Ghost32... They both say the file system is corrupt.... Did ext3 change since 8.04? [02:28] weeeeeeeeeeee soooooooo nice no more windows on this laptop [02:28] i think now we can talk about jaunty. [02:29] noobie in some need of help, i want xchat i type sudo apt-get install xchat and i get a response saying E: xchat not found [02:29] sorry [02:29] E: Couldn't find package xchat [02:30] firelovez: did you enable the universe repository? have you done sudo apt-get update recently? [02:31] will do [02:31] looks like intrepidś file chooser doesn't work consistently for all apps. in some apps, all bookmarks are shown, in other apps only local ones, and other apps none [02:31] sweet thanks rww [02:32] firelovez: awesome :) which was it? universe or update? [02:32] update [02:33] ah. yeah, someone else had that problem the other day and it took us forever to figure it out, hence me asking this time :D [02:33] ill be back in a few geting off this pidgin sweet [02:35] any ubuntu devs in here ? [02:36] what dose rww stand for? is that like a admin or are you in every room i go to lol [02:36] what alsa version ships with ibex? [02:36] unique_: It's my RL initials, and I'm not an admin, just someone who can pay attention to three channels at once :) [02:36] !info alsa intrepid [02:36] Package alsa does not exist in intrepid [02:36] lol so that was you :-) [02:37] sorry im a noob [02:37] ok [02:37] hmm, that's not right [02:37] * rww thinks [02:37] !info alsa-base intrepid | johnjohn101 [02:37] johnjohn101: alsa-base (source: alsa-driver): ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.17.dfsg-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 214 kB, installed size 408 kB [02:37] yay, I guessed better :D [02:38] if i download tonight will i be able to upgrade to the released version? [02:40] ok i do have a small problem i type iwconfig and my wireless card dose not show.... i goto hardware drivers in pref, it says its using support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards..... [02:46] Should I have any issues with fglrx on my ATI Card after an update from Hardy to Intrepid? 3D support is what im worried about [02:46] also toshset says required kernel toshiba support not enabled...\ [02:46] CanadianLinux: I'm using a Radeon HD 3450 and have fglrx working perfect :) [02:47] thankyou very much rww, I cant go without Nexuiz lol [02:47] I have the same card btw [02:48] CanadianLinux: hehe, yeah, only reason I need 3D support is for the games :D [02:48] Check out nexuiz rww if you are into the Quake series... [02:49] CanadianLinux: depends which card...my elcheapo ati x200g no longer supports 3D or DRI after upgrading to 8.10RC [02:49] lol i just tryed it on windows for the first time its sweet im going to def get it on here [02:49] I have a HD2400 and HD3450 [02:49] CanadianLinux: I will :) [02:50] they were talking about it on hak5 i was like oh yhea [02:50] Yea its pretty impressive, I'm actively involved in the Community [02:50] CanadianLinux: I heard that ATI has slightly better supporth nvidia on 8.10 [02:50] than [02:51] ok thanks guys for the Info, I just dont want to be stuck with 2d only [02:51] i was always a fan of ati [02:52] could any one make sense of ("required kernel toshiba support not enabled.") for me [02:52] ubuntu.com not responding? [02:52] previous releases have better nvidia supoort then ati m but the 8.10 has decided to got the HAL route on graphics so the xorg.conf file is practically totally uneditable [02:53] ubuntu.com is up on my end\ [02:55] here is not.. a lot of people talking about that on #ubuntu-br [02:56] pretto try http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc maby its just the home page [02:56] unique_, firefox just say: waiting for ubuntu.com... and no page at all [02:57] huuum [02:57] can anyone else connect to ubuntu.com [02:57] unique_, sure. [02:57] unique_: yes [02:58] unique_, maybe the route from Brazil is having some problem [02:58] thats what i was going to say.... [02:59] you can try a proxy site and see if it can redirect you to a us based server. [03:00] the last info i got was 22 gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10) 359.775 ms * * [03:01] 21 gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10) 359.876 ms 195.50.121.2 (195.50.121.2) 359.877 ms 367.878 ms [03:01] 22 gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10) 359.775 ms * * [03:01] same router twice [03:01] and stuck on the last [03:02] pretto try vostok.canonical.com [03:02] does anyone know exactly when 8.10 goes live? [03:03] see if you still cant get thro [03:03] i wanted to know that same question lol [03:04] pretto any luck [03:04] unique_, tracing [03:05] crashsystems: #ubuntu-release-party [03:05] unique_, [03:05] ? [03:05] stuck on 22 gw0-0-gr.canonical.com (91.189.88.10) 380.807 ms 374.841 ms 379.874 ms [03:05] 23 * * * again [03:06] I hear that intrepid has built in support for broadcom wireless cards, is this true? [03:06] How buggy is it currently? [03:11] I'm running intrepid. Every ten minutes, my monitor dims. This is not what it's set to do in power management [03:11] in intrepid : file choosers show different items in the places list for different applications [03:11] awwwwwwwwwwwwww~ when updates are coming [03:12] i've got the no-keyboard-or-mouse at login screen problem... [03:12] just did a clean install of Ibex... [03:13] rhythmbox crashes everytime I start downloading podcast in my feeds [03:13] is anyone getting seg faults with brasero when clicking on "New Audio Project" ? [03:13] How can I stop the hp-systray from apearing every time when I log in? [03:14] 'lo all - just trying to 'update-manager -d' into intrepid and am being told that the installer couldn't authenticate some packages, with 'base-files' being the failure - anyone seen that [03:14] unique_, i think that gw0-0-gr.canonical.com is dropping packages from Brazil [03:15] thats what it looks like... maby a over whelm in 8.10 rc downloads [03:15] !mirror [03:15] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low! [03:15] Anyone using 8.10 on an Acer Aspire One? [03:16] I know it says hardy, but the same applies for intrepid: use mirrors! [03:16]