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calcjust realized i only have about 25 non triaged non incomplete bugs01:11
calcout of 526 :)01:11
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hggdhpersia, ping01:50
Hammonjjhi everyone02:10
Hammonjji'm a cs student looking to get involved with bug fixing.  i was wondering if anyone knew of a resource i cold contact02:11
hggdhwell, he was fast... fast in and fast out02:16
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techno_freakNetworkManager has totaly screwed up in the latest update, it doesn't even run dhclient when booting up and even if I restart NM manually, the applet still shows no wired connections activated04:30
Juaneloneubunti 8.10 woohooo04:47
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thekorngood morning06:34
dholbachgood morning06:45
thekorngood morning dholbach06:47
dholbachhi thekorn06:47
macohi dholbach06:52
dholbachhi maco06:52
macoso, for QA stuff, laserjock and i were talking about our utter lack of unit tests.  so i started a set of wiki pages to write up test cases for us to do manually.  they can eventually be turned into automated ones, i suppose, but at least we'll have the specs for when that time comes06:53
macoif anyone wants to help write up things that need to be tested repeatedly during unstable to ensure a minimal set of functionality...feel free06:57
macotjaalton: about the joysticks...if they wont be evdev, how will they be handled?06:59
tjaaltonmaco: just like before07:00
tjaaltonie. games work07:00
tjaaltonif you want to use them as pointer devices, wait for the patch to hal that mjg59 posted07:01
tjaaltonthen x-x-i-joystick only needs to check for input.joystick devices, not the product id07:01
macotjaalton: do you need to set them up in xorg.conf?07:02
tjaaltonmaco: with those updates, no07:02
macotjaalton: awesome! will update post07:02
macotjaalton: wacom's still screwed though, right?07:02
tjaaltonI'm not sure if the hal patch will be SRU'd, but hope so07:02
tjaaltonmaco: yes, you can only initialize the device with one set of parameters when using input-hotplug07:03
tjaaltonso the driver needs some love07:03
macotjaalton: updated version ok?07:04
tjaaltonYABC, a sec07:06
tjaaltonjust invented it myself ;)07:07
tjaaltonmaco: yep, looks fine07:09
macokk thanks07:09
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niadhI know this is probably gonna be a pain, but I've just got up, intending to upgrade ubuntu while I am out today, any reason why upgrade manager ain't showing the update option?10:30
RAOF'cause it's not released yet?  Also, probably better asked on #ubuntu+1, I'd wager :)10:30
niadhWas under the impression it's out today10:31
niadhOf course it doesn't mean 9AM today10:31
niadhJust wondered10:31
Hewniadh: Watch #ubuntu+1. It's not out yet, but should be out some time today.10:32
RAOFYeah.  It'll be out sometime today, barring huge last minute problems.10:32
Hewniadh: Also #ubuntu-release-party10:32
BUGabundo_workasac: ping11:15
BUGabundo_workgood morning11:16
asacBUGabundo_work: hey ;)11:17
Bodsdadownloading intrepid rc atm -- 8.04 is running really slow for me so i think its time for some spring cleaning11:17
asacBUGabundo_work: got my messages?11:17
BUGabundo_worknot yet11:17
asacBUGabundo_work: look in mail + bug ;)11:17
BUGabundo_workI publish one of my passwords online!11:17
asacBUGabundo_work: he?11:18
BUGabundo_worktook most of the morning to change my old passwords11:18
asacBUGabundo_work: oh :)11:18
BUGabundo_workand now I'm in meetings11:18
BUGabundo_workdidn't even had time to turn laptop on11:18
asacBUGabundo_work: yeah. ok anyway ... PPA version should work.11:18
asacBUGabundo_work: i gave hints how to workaround without that patch in bug11:18
* BUGabundo_work opens ubuntu mailbox11:18
asacs/PPA version/new PPA version/11:19
* BUGabundo_work laptop booting11:21
BUGabundo_workis anyone getting "floating point exception" on skype 64bits?11:42
BUGabundo_workasac: sorry to say, but VPN still won't work after the update!11:48
BUGabundo_workdo I need to reboot?11:48
asacBUGabundo_work: depends11:49
asacBUGabundo_work: which -pptp version do you have installed now?11:49
asacBUGabundo_work: does the workaround work for you?11:50
asacfor me stuff works now11:50
BUGabundo_workPPA version of course11:50
asacBUGabundo_work: which ;)?11:51
BUGabundo_workhaven't read it yet11:51
BUGabundo_workuser probs11:51
BUGabundo$ apt-cache show network-manager-pptp11:54
BUGabundoArchitecture: amd6411:54
BUGabundoVersion: 0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu2~nm211:54
asacBUGabundo_work: works for me11:54
asaci am currently connected11:55
asacBUGabundo_work: i had to select MPPE11:55
asacthats all11:55
BUGabundo_workI have it on11:55
asacand dont use password11:55
asacbecause that doesnt work11:55
asacBUGabundo_work: dump your connection11:55
asaccreate a new one11:55
asacmost likely you tweaked something else11:55
BUGabundo_work1st thing I did11:55
BUGabundo_workthe ballon won't even show up...11:56
BUGabundo_workit desapears in less then half a sec11:56
asacwhich balloon?11:56
BUGabundothe FAILED connection11:56
asacwell. i think you have other issues then. what error do you get in syslog now?11:56
BUGabundo_workjust tested to a 2nd vpn and it also failed!11:57
BUGabundolet me tail it11:57
BUGabundo_worknothing there!11:58
asacBUGabundo_work: you should really get to a clean state11:59
asacwipe keyring stuff11:59
asacand such11:59
BUGabundo_workwhat do I need?11:59
asacyou need to have a new password dialog triggered11:59
asacnot sure11:59
BUGabundo_workrm /etc ?11:59
asaci dont know12:00
BUGabundo_workapt-get remove --purge nm *12:00
asacyou need to remove your keyring stuff12:00
asacopen seahorse12:00
asacand remove stuff from there12:00
asacall passwords and things12:00
asacand also dont fill the password in the connection editor12:00
BUGabundo_workthe ONLY key there as been removed12:00
asacthen ensure that you dont have a password in the connection12:01
asacat best dump it again12:01
BUGabundo_workdeleting VPNs and doing new ones12:01
BUGabundo_workI'm going to boot livecd12:01
asacjust fill in username gateway and no passord12:01
BUGabundo_workand test from there12:01
asacBUGabundo_work: no need to12:01
BUGabundono ?12:01
asacyou just need get back to a state you always had yesterday12:01
asaci am sure you can figure that out12:01
asaci mean that you get asked for password and such12:02
asacand that there is actually a connect attempt in the log12:02
asacthe package certainly didnt change anything in this regard12:02
BUGabundo_workno need for domain??12:02
BUGabundo_workI'm entereing it!12:02
asacBUGabundo_work: yes domain is ok12:02
asacBUGabundo_work: if you read bug/mail you see how you can encode that in the username though12:02
BUGabundo_workCAPS or lower case?12:02
asac... which allows you to use it without the ppa package12:03
asacBUGabundo_work: domain? here its caps12:03
* BUGabundo checks LP bugmil12:03
BUGabundowindows uses it as CAPS12:03
asacBUGabundo_work: i think it even works here without a domain ;)12:03
BUGabundo_workdoes it escape passwords correctly?12:04
asacwhat do i know12:04
* BUGabundo connetcing12:04
asacmy password was simple enough12:04
* BUGabundo VPN Connection Failed12:04
asacthat error is unimportant12:04
asacyou need to get the ssylog as always12:04
BUGabundoLCP terminated by peer (;'w^I^@<M-Mt^@^@^BM-f)12:05
BUGabundoI guess this is it now12:05
asacBUGabundo_work: yeah. .. thats MPPE12:05
asacBUGabundo_work: yeah12:05
asacenable MPPE ... at least that made it work here12:05
* BUGabundo makes MPPE on... forgot last time12:06
asacBUGabundo_work: cool. also i just verified. at least my account works without domain :)12:06
asacbut also with domain or with domain encoded in username12:06
asace.g. DOMAIN\username or username@DOMAIN12:06
BUGabundo_workit should work12:08
BUGabundo_workhey... my messages didn't came12:08
BUGabundo_workIT WORKSSSSS12:08
asaccool ;)12:08
asacBUGabundo_work: so passwords get properly encoded12:08
asacBUGabundo_work: now please test WPA-Enterprise ;)12:09
asaci think the problem with the password in the settings directly needs to be dealt too12:09
BUGabundo_worknot there!12:09
asacbut i can figure that ;)12:09
BUGabundo_workonly tonight when I get to Universaty12:09
BUGabundo_workcan we make MPPE on by default?12:09
asacBUGabundo_work: not sure :/12:10
asaci mean technically for sure12:10
asacnot sure what is wanted12:10
BUGabundo_work2nd vpn is failing12:10
asacBUGabundo_work: which error?12:11
asacBUGabundo_work: but it succeeds first right?12:12
asaci mean it gets ip an all12:12
* BUGabundo hates when VPNs disconect IRC12:12
BUGabundodiff VPNs12:12
BUGabundonot the company anymore12:12
BUGabundoits the univ VPN now12:12
BUGabundoI think I can talk to the admin to get you an account too12:12
asacBUGabundo_work: maybe try options first12:13
BUGabundoMPPE disabled12:13
BUGabundowhy did it got disable?12:13
asacBUGabundo_work: you definitly connected and got an IP12:13
BUGabundonm-pptp-service-4519 warn[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:331]: short read (-1): Message too long12:13
asacBUGabundo_work: yeah.  thats most likely the reason why its disconnecting12:13
asacthe MPPE disabled stuff is most likely just output when shutting down12:13
asacBUGabundo_work: is the gateway and stuff correct?12:15
asaclooks a bit "simple" :)12:15
* BUGabundo_work checking12:16
* BUGabundo asking the Univ network admin for VPN logs12:16
asacalso a bit strange that the second DNS comes from a complete different net:12:17
asac192.168.62.8 <->
BUGabundo_workVPN is now on!12:17
BUGabundo_worktried a mirror server12:18
asacok. so bogus vpn server12:18
asacBUGabundo_work: please talk to admin12:18
asacand figure out if its a misconfiguration and if it is figure out if windows users are affected or if they have more magic12:18
BUGabundo_workhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/64576 Success12:19
asacBUGabundo_work: yay ;)12:19
asacgood stuff12:19
asacBUGabundo_work: do you remember how the domain/username encoding looks like in a windows login box?12:19
asacBUGabundo_work: is it like DOMAIN\user ... or DOMAIN\\user ?12:19
asaci think i saw that once ... but thats years ago :(12:20
BUGabundo_workretested inicial server and it failed again12:20
BUGabundo_workits a server setting I guess12:20
BUGabundo_workmirror server works12:21
BUGabundo_workbut requires MPPE12:21
BUGabundo_workDOMAIN\user single slash on windows12:21
asacBUGabundo_work: so the other doesnt require MPPE?12:21
BUGabundo_workuser@DOMAIN also valid12:21
asacBUGabundo_work: try to disable it then (though i guess thats obvious to test ;))12:21
asacBUGabundo_work: ok cool12:21
asac(domain encoding)12:21
asacBUGabundo_work: yes know that @ is the modern way12:21
* BUGabundo_work testing all 3 servers without MPPE12:22
asacbut most likely it will never be THE standard way ... as always ;)12:22
asacBUGabundo_work: i think the first already failed right?12:22
asacoh sorry12:22
* asac confuses work/school12:22
BUGabundoSchool server 1 with MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/64580/12:23
asacBUGabundo_work: yeah thats the bogus address stuff12:23
asacwe need admin input on whats special and if that server works at all on windows12:23
asacBUGabundo_work: or doese it work without MPPE?12:23
BUGabundoSchool server 1 withOUT MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458112:24
asacoh that server at least tells that MPPE is required12:24
BUGabundoSchool server mirror withOUT MPPE fail12:24
asacyour work server just continues12:24
BUGabundo_workgot a time out  now12:25
BUGabundo_workon the mirror12:25
BUGabundoSchool server mirror WITH MPPE timeout http://paste.ubuntu.com/64583/12:26
asacBUGabundo_work: which server worked before?12:27
BUGabundo_workthat one12:27
asacBUGabundo_work: try again12:27
BUGabundo_workand now it Simply Worked12:27
asacBUGabundo_work: ok. try a few times ... with and without disconnecting first12:28
BUGabundoSchool server mirror WITH MPPE Success http://paste.ubuntu.com/64585/12:28
BUGabundo_workSchool server mirror WITH MPPE SUCESS http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458512:28
BUGabundo_workhumm I'm lagging!!! lol missed that on IRC12:29
BUGabundo_workthe admin is offline now! not sure if he went to check this stuff12:29
BUGabundoubottu:  ping12:29
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore12:29
asacBUGabundo_work: well ... i think the failure might also been have due to the server12:30
asacBUGabundo_work: you should try multiple times to get a better feeling about the fail ratio12:30
BUGabundo_workat least I know have 2 working servers12:30
asacBUGabundo_work: so you have 3 servers in school12:30
BUGabundo_worktonigh I'll teste the VPN over open WiFi12:30
BUGabundo_workand test EDUROAM12:31
BUGabundo_workno asac12:31
BUGabundo_work2 vpn server at school12:31
BUGabundo_workplus one at work12:31
BUGabundo_workI know I'm babbling all over the place12:31
BUGabundo_workmaking it hard for you to follow12:31
BUGabundo_worknow we have a post release update to do12:32
BUGabundo_workasac: admin is back12:33
BUGabundo_worktrying to get him to look at the server12:33
asacBUGabundo_work: ok12:33
asacBUGabundo_work: anyway. even the current package works if you encode the domain in the username12:33
* BUGabundo finally some time to look at backlog emails!12:34
asacand dont use the domain field in NM12:34
BUGabundo_workrelease notes maybe?12:34
asacnot sure. the vpn plugins should be more important, but they are not on CD12:34
asacand not even in main12:34
BUGabundo_workbut people upgrading12:35
asacwe will get the update in asap. that should be good enough i think12:35
BUGabundo_workwill get a non working VPN12:35
BUGabundo_workthat might leave some users without ANY chance to fix12:35
snap-lDid anyone else receive a security update today?12:38
asacBUGabundo_work: well. the notes are all done and so ;)12:38
asacsnap-l: whats the problem?12:38
BUGabundo_workI did snap-l12:39
snap-lI'm not seeing any notes for what the issue was.12:39
snap-lMore curious than anything12:39
asacsnap-l: not sure. look http://www.ubuntu.com/usn12:42
asacmost likely you got one of the more recent ones then12:43
jdstrandsnap-l: it is expected. base-files needed an update before intrepid was released, so no USN. it went through -security because of the extrememly late hour in the release process12:43
asacjdstrand: thanks for helping out ;)12:43
snap-ljdstrand: Thanks for the clarification. :)12:44
asacBUGabundo_work: could you post a syslog that shows the authentication error to the bug?13:20
asacat best replace the description13:20
asacBUGabundo_work: if oyu want you can open a new bug for the MPPE by default thing13:21
asacand point the other reports in the bug to that one (as some appear to have been struck by that too)13:21
BUGabundo_workasac: it could be great if we made a poll, and ask users on that bug to vote if it worked best with or without MPPE13:34
asacBUGabundo_work: well. bugs attract a highly biased user base :)13:37
Bit_Breakerhello all13:38
Bit_Breakeri was wondering if the images provided here, can be crafted to work in VBox13:39
BUGabundo_workasac: (13:02:56) André:13:39
BUGabundo_workEmbora os dois serviços (msvpn e msvpn1) sejam semelhantes, têm algumas diferenças entre eles, por exemplo o msvpn1 suporta MPPC e também chaves statefull.13:39
BUGabundo_workthe admin says both machines are similar13:39
Bit_Breakerthey are a part of this wikihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase13:40
asacBit_Breaker: wouldnt think so. you could ask QA folks if they have prepared vbox images13:40
BUGabundo_workbut mirror server as MPPC and statefull keys13:40
Bit_Breakerasac: ok who would that be? QA that is .13:40
asacBit_Breaker: maybe ask on #ubuntu-testing .... but i think to remember that thats on their todo list. so most likely there are no vbox images yet13:41
CaPriCoRN^80persia: hi13:42
CaPriCoRN^80i have read the documentation13:42
CaPriCoRN^80i tried to report a bug related to 8.0413:43
CaPriCoRN^80but didnt get any response13:43
BUGabundo_workasac: you got me lost now!13:43
BUGabundo_workwhat bug log do you mean I should post to the bug??13:44
asacBUGabundo_work: no. reproduce the bug log that leads to the AUTHETNTICATION failure13:44
asacthat wone with the =691 code13:44
asacBUGabundo_work: if you still have it somewhere just use that :)13:44
Bit_Breakerasac: thanks13:45
BUGabundo_workill have to look for IRC logs and get the pastebin of it13:46
Bit_Breakerasac: how can i help make images for Vbox13:46
BUGabundo_workor my console logs... even maybe by grepping my syslog13:46
BUGabundo_workI never delete them13:46
asacBit_Breaker: ask folks on #ubuntu-testing. they are the one to coordinate that imo. at best wait a day to make release dust settle there13:46
asacBit_Breaker: they are most likely still busy13:46
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seb128mvo: should bug #290921 stays open as an ubuntu bug if you opened a rt about it?14:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290921 in ubuntu "archive.ubuntu.com config prevents caching" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29092114:31
mvoseb128: I have no idea, it feels like it should given that its not resolved yet14:33
mvobut I don't have a strong opinion on it14:33
seb128mvo: that's not an ubuntu bug though, it has been moved to a rt which seems to correct media no?14:33
mvook, fine with me to close it "notforus" :)14:34
* mvo thinks we need more close states14:34
seb128I don't really care but that's the sort of bugs which stay open for ever14:34
seb128that seems noise14:34
mvoI included the bugnumer in the ticket in the hope that RT would close it14:35
mvobut yeah, we might as well close it now that its forwarded14:35
Ohmu_I got a bug in gnome-ppp.  The init-string fields start at 2, not 1 (zero would be ok by me...), and they eat whatever values you put in them.  Next time you bring up the box, the values are reset.14:37
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joaopintoanyone ever found this error: nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed ?16:19
joaopintomy resolv.conf is a mixed result from networkmanager and the AT&T VPN client16:20
joaopintoand it looks fine to me :P16:20
affluxwe had some issues with -386 packages being installed around gutsy or so, didn't we?17:13
affluxanyone happen to have the report at hand?17:13
psusiso what do you do with a bug report that has been filed in a language you do not understand?18:37
bdmurraypsusi: do you have any idea what language it is?18:38
psusilooks like it might be german18:38
bdmurrayI think we have some people who know german here18:39
bdmurrayI hate to just close the bug report as the person is making an effort to help out18:40
thekornpsusi, can you give me the bug number18:40
psusiyea, bug #17532918:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 175329 in dmraid "dmraid lies sich nicht installieren oder aktualisieren" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17532918:40
thekornpsusi, yes germen, let me have a look18:41
psusiwell, the report is also a year old so... maybe I should just close it for being old and ask them to change it back to new if they are still around...18:41
thekornhmm, its about updating this package in 7.10, I think I'll close this bug and ask him to reopen if this is still a problem18:44
psusisounds good to me18:44
bdmurraythekorn: could you also mention bug reports are more likely to get attention if reported in English?18:44
thekornyes, will do18:44
asacbdmurray: you really want to keep non-native bugs open?19:51
asacbdmurray: i mean then we should do that officially and try to get a "bug" translator team up ;)19:52
asaci usually just close stuff19:52
bdmurrayasac: yeah, I think having a bug translation team would be a good idea19:52
asacwell. for me requiring a proxy isnt that promissing ;)19:54
asactranslation team would be at least more-responsive than the average bug triager ;)19:54
asacotherwise they would probably be a bottle neck19:54
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hamzahi , i have a problem with playing video w21:27
hamzaanyone here ?!21:27
macoyes, but if it's a help request, that goes in #ubuntu21:28
macothis channel's mostly for triaging21:28
BUGabundoasac: ping21:34
asacBUGabundo: ?21:35
BUGabundojust uploaded a log to 27218521:35
BUGabundoupdating now to nm421:35
BUGabundoand trying the new timeout21:35
asacBUGabundo: do you get the timeout error?21:36
macooh oh where's the server team (i think?) so they can freak about contentless-pings?21:36
BUGabundowith nm3 yes21:36
asacBUGabundo: right21:36
asacBUGabundo: yeah give it a try .... buts ridiculous already21:36
BUGabundoI'm now 3mts from the AP21:37
BUGabundoof course RADIUS servers here suck...21:37
asacBUGabundo: well. go ahead21:37
asaclet me know if this thing succeeds after ages ;)21:37
BUGabundoI also failed to connect to another AP with out encription21:37
BUGabundoand noticed that if I ran sudo dhclient wlan2 I would get connected21:37
asacthats something different most likely21:37
asacBUGabundo: thats a driver bug then most likely21:38
asacor maybe wpasupplicant in a bad state after broken EAP attempts21:38
* BUGabundo hopes PPA download speed is better then Main and mirrors21:39
BUGabundoI've seen mirrors with 70 system load21:39
BUGabundoits crazy!!!21:39
ograthe whole datacenter suffers on release day :)21:39
BUGabundoI know21:39
asacsounds warm ;)21:39
BUGabundoI track a mirror here!21:39
asaclike holiday ;)21:39
BUGabundoand we just wish it can make through the weekend21:39
ograasac, well, there is a holiday tomorrow :)21:39
asacogra: not here21:40
ograunless hamburg switched to be catholic21:40
BUGabundoLoad Averages     24.17 22.36 22.1921:40
asacogra: no ... its not a public holiday here even though we are not catholic21:40
BUGabundoasac: reboot to get the new NM421:40
asacmost likely this means that there is no religion here21:40
asacogra: or maybe i just have never heard of this day ;)21:41
ograoh, carp21:41
ogra*crap even21:41
asacI'll will certainly notice when no stores have open tomorrow21:41
ogra"am Fr.,31.10. ist Reformationstag21:41
ogragesetzlicher Feiertag in Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Thüringen."21:41
asacthats how it works21:41
asacostfeiertag halt21:42
* ogra has to work tomorrow21:42
BUGabundoby the way asac21:42
asacogra: glaube das liegt daran, dass die dort luther hatten ;)21:42
BUGabundohow do I do use wpa manually?21:42
BUGabundoI'm out of train21:42
BUGabundohaven't used it since gutsy21:42
ograasac, niedersachsen hatter reformationstag bis vor n paar jahren :/21:42
BUGabundoasac: back21:45
asacBUGabundo: well. now it takes at most 3 minutes until we know more21:46
BUGabundoOct 30 21:46:06 blubug NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan2): supplicant connection state change: 0 -> 421:46
BUGabundoOct 30 21:46:21 blubug NetworkManager: <info>  wlan2: link timed out.21:46
BUGabundoor not!21:46
asacBUGabundo: no thats ok21:46
asacthe usual confusing messages from driver21:46
asacif you wouldnt get that it wouldnt take so long in the first place21:46
BUGabundoah ok21:46
asacBUGabundo: do you tail the wpasupplicant.log?21:47
BUGabundoOT do you have a LP bug for the Tainted Network messages when modprob -r iwlagn && modprob iwlagn21:47
asacthats important ... i want to see whats going on during connect attempt21:47
asacBUGabundo: tainted?21:48
BUGabundohummm no21:48
asaci dont get those ;)21:48
BUGabundonot wpasupp21:48
BUGabundojust syslog21:48
BUGabundoI get ... should I file a new bug?21:48
asacBUGabundo: yes why not.21:48
* BUGabundo tailing wpasup21:48
asacBUGabundo: if it still fails after 3 minutes i need wpasupp21:48
asaclog together with syslog21:49
BUGabundoCTRL-EVENT-EAP-FAILURE EAP authentication failed21:49
BUGabundo2nd try with fresh logs21:49
asacBUGabundo: flush the drivers too before that21:49
BUGabundoOpenSSL: tls_connection_handshake - Failed to read possible Application Data error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)21:49
BUGabundohow do I do that?21:50
asacBUGabundo: reload the modeules21:50
asacthen give NM some time to settle21:50
BUGabundoif I do that I need to reboot21:50
asacthen tail stuff and reproduce21:50
asacBUGabundo: you need?21:50
BUGabundoI can't get my wifi back21:50
BUGabundoif I remove the module21:50
BUGabundothat's why I said I get a tainted message21:50
asacsounds quite bad21:51
BUGabundoeven if I turn WiFi off from NM21:51
BUGabundoit won't came back21:51
asacplease paste output of modinfo iwlagn21:51
asacBUGabundo: but you are sure its Tunneled TLS what you need?21:51
BUGabundoI'm sure21:52
BUGabundoit worked just fine with Hardy21:52
asacyeah get me the logs first then21:52
BUGabundoand previous versions of nm0.721:52
asacBUGabundo: do you still have the hardy kernels ?21:52
BUGabundobut now it won't even connect21:52
asacBUGabundo: what did you do with those?21:52
BUGabundojust 2.6.26-5 and 2.6.27-721:52
BUGabundoapt-get remove21:52
asacBUGabundo: maybe try .2621:52
asacBUGabundo: thats a bad idea21:53
asacyou should always keep them ;)21:53
asacthey do no harm :-P21:53
BUGabundoit was working!!! lol21:53
BUGabundoas I said, only in the last week and a halt it stoped21:53
asacBUGabundo: what is working?21:53
BUGabundobefore that I had lots of timeouts21:53
BUGabundowifi with eduroam21:53
asacBUGabundo: yeah try 26 kernel please21:53
BUGabundoaint that what we are talking about?21:53
asacwell you are not always precise21:54
asacso i have to ask seemingly stupid questions sometimes21:54
BUGabundono prob21:54
BUGabundoI'll try to be more precise21:54
BUGabundobe right back21:54
BUGabundoNM [finally] connected to the other AP (without encription)21:55
BUGabundogoing to test VPN over WiFi21:55
asacBUGabundo: that works for me21:55
BUGabundoneed to unplug the eth to be sure I'm using the correct connection21:55
asacBUGabundo: better get this issue sortd. dont get distracted ;)21:55
asactry .26 kernel21:55
asacalso try to do it manually with a wpa_supplicant.conf21:56
asacBurgundavia: ^^ also i am still waiting for a supplicant log ;)21:59
angusthefuzzdo any of you maintain the list of bug testing virtualbox images: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/22:10
angusthefuzzThe link is on the bug wiki knowledgebase page22:10
bdmurrayangusthefuzz: I'm familiar with them but don't maintain them22:19
angusthefuzzbdmurray: the list is just really out of date and I wondered how I might help make some new images for testing22:20
angusthefuzzbdmurray: I happen to have server and desktop default installs for virtualbox already and I thought i might package them up for others to use22:20
* BUGabundo loves to run on 800x600.... bah old kernels...22:22
BUGabundoasac: 2.6.26-5 only has iwl4965 not iwlagn22:22
BUGabundocan't even turn my wifi on!22:22
bdmurrayangusthefuzz: could you e-mail the ubuntu-qa mailing list about that so it can be discussed?22:22
BUGabundoasac: rebooting to 2.6.27-722:23
bdmurrayWe've discussed providing virtual machine images before and I think it would be quite useful22:23
BUGabundobdmurray: for upgrade testing?22:24
* BUGabundo rebooting22:24
bdmurrayBUGabundo: or SRU verification22:24
angusthefuzzbdmurray: I also think it would be useful, that way triagers can test things without messing with their own system22:26
bdmurrayangusthefuzz: right and install strange packages22:26
angusthefuzzor patches, etc22:26
BUGabundoasac: tailing new logs22:28
BUGabundoasac: [   16.660173] cfg80211: Regulatory domain: US22:29
BUGabundoI'm in Europe... lol22:29
BUGabundoasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/22:34
* BUGabundo is this thing on??22:34
BUGabundoping ubottu22:34
BUGabundoping ubottu22:35
BUGabundoubottu: ping22:35
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore22:35
BUGabundoahh its alive22:35
BUGabundoasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/22:35
=== apw is now known as ap
angusthefuzzbdmurray: the email has been sent, hopefully it will be well-received22:40
BUGabundoCall Trace: \n [<ffffffff8024e9b4>] warn_on_slowpath+0x64/0x90 \n Pid: 7019, comm: wpa_supplicant Tainted22:41
BUGabundomeans anything to anyone?22:41
=== ap is now known as apw
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291291 in wpasupplicant "wpa_supplicant Tainted" [Undecided,New]22:48
asacBUGabundo: looks bad ... i think its a bad idea to unload reload module when wpasupp is still running22:53
BUGabundothen make it resileant to it22:53
BUGabundoI just used NM22:53
asacNM has nothing to do with that tainted thing22:54
BUGabundoI just clicked on the nm-applet to turn WiFi off22:56
BUGabundoif that is what is inloading modules22:56
BUGabundothen there is where we need to start fixing22:56
asacno its the driver that goes down22:56
asacno its not22:56
asacanyway thanks so far. we will see22:56
BUGabundojust trying to debug22:57
BUGabundoasac: I also uploaded the wpa logs22:58
angusthefuzzbdmurray: I just found out that test image maintainer is an open qa position: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/KeyPositions23:37
bdmurrayangusthefuzz: oh, so it is!23:38
angusthefuzzmaybe this will prompt them to fill the position :-)23:40
hggdhangusthefuzz, why don't you propose for that?23:48
angusthefuzzhggdh: I am thinking about it.  I am worried that my upload isnt fast enough for multiple weekly images (i only get about 50 KB/s)23:50
hggdhhuh, that's not going to do the trick...23:50
* Hobbsee is wondering how the images actually get made.23:50
* hggdh was also thinking (in a tortuous way) about that23:51
angusthefuzzHobbsee: basically you perform an install in virtualbox, then take the resulting image file and zip it up23:51
Hobbseeangusthefuzz: ahhh23:51
angusthefuzzthe trick is to do nothing to the install, to keep it as default as possible23:51
angusthefuzzbut whoever filled that role would constantly be downloading isos and installing and reuploading them23:52
hggdhmethinks VBox could be automated for that23:52
angusthefuzzhggdh: I agree23:52
Hobbseethe biggest problem there would be when the iso's don't install.23:52
* Hobbsee --> uni23:52
Hobbseewhich is a lot of the time23:52
Hobbseeand/or the installer dosen't work.23:52
hggdhthe problem is actually more complex: in the US most ISPs now impose a download cap per month -- 5G, usually23:53
angusthefuzzluckily mine isnt one of them23:53
Hobbseehggdh: not all countries have that, fortunately.23:53
Hobbsee(mine does too, though)23:53
hggdhdownloading all ISOs may very much blow the cap23:53
angusthefuzzand actually, I have access to a university network that is plenty fast enough23:53
Hobbseehggdh: stick 'em on a linode or something.  WOuldn't be overly difficult.23:53
Hobbseea lot fo people have servers around23:53
hggdhbut this could be split, with some people working, each on a ISO image23:53
angusthefuzzhggdh: also, im not sure weekly is necessary, maybe even every other week would provide updated enough images most of the time23:54
angusthefuzzits better than right now, I think 7.10 is the latest they have23:54
hggdhwe would need an update every time a new alpha, beta, or rc, or GA is put out23:54
angusthefuzzhggdh: yes, definitely23:54
hggdhso this puts the crunch only in the last few weeks of a release cycle23:55
angusthefuzzhggdh: back to your automation comment, I am not sure vbox could go through an install without any manual input23:55
hggdhI am not sure how we could answer the default install questions automated23:56
angusthefuzzthat would be tricky, if its even possible, plus I wouldnt be there to file new bugs if I found problems23:56
mrooneyIs there an easy way to switch locales, say to debug an issue?23:57
hggdhmrooney, I *knew* the answer -- and it was simple. But I forgot... :-(23:58
mrooneyFor example if I want to see an issue with a translation, how might I get applications to use it?23:59

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