| === maco_ is now known as maco | ||
| calc | just realized i only have about 25 non triaged non incomplete bugs | 01:11 |
|---|---|---|
| calc | out of 526 :) | 01:11 |
| === paul__ is now known as Elbrus | ||
| hggdh | persia, ping | 01:50 |
| Hammonjj | hi everyone | 02:10 |
| Hammonjj | i'm a cs student looking to get involved with bug fixing. i was wondering if anyone knew of a resource i cold contact | 02:11 |
| Hammonjj | could*** | 02:11 |
| hggdh | well, he was fast... fast in and fast out | 02:16 |
| === woody86_ is now known as woody86 | ||
| techno_freak | NetworkManager has totaly screwed up in the latest update, it doesn't even run dhclient when booting up and even if I restart NM manually, the applet still shows no wired connections activated | 04:30 |
| Juanelone | ubunti 8.10 woohooo | 04:47 |
| === graydog is now known as graydot | ||
| === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF | ||
| thekorn | good morning | 06:34 |
| maco | hiya | 06:35 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
| thekorn | good morning dholbach | 06:47 |
| dholbach | hi thekorn | 06:47 |
| maco | hi dholbach | 06:52 |
| dholbach | hi maco | 06:52 |
| maco | so, for QA stuff, laserjock and i were talking about our utter lack of unit tests. so i started a set of wiki pages to write up test cases for us to do manually. they can eventually be turned into automated ones, i suppose, but at least we'll have the specs for when that time comes | 06:53 |
| maco | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApplicationTesting | 06:53 |
| maco | if anyone wants to help write up things that need to be tested repeatedly during unstable to ensure a minimal set of functionality...feel free | 06:57 |
| maco | tjaalton: about the joysticks...if they wont be evdev, how will they be handled? | 06:59 |
| tjaalton | maco: just like before | 07:00 |
| tjaalton | ie. games work | 07:00 |
| tjaalton | if you want to use them as pointer devices, wait for the patch to hal that mjg59 posted | 07:01 |
| tjaalton | then x-x-i-joystick only needs to check for input.joystick devices, not the product id | 07:01 |
| maco | tjaalton: do you need to set them up in xorg.conf? | 07:02 |
| tjaalton | maco: with those updates, no | 07:02 |
| maco | tjaalton: awesome! will update post | 07:02 |
| maco | tjaalton: wacom's still screwed though, right? | 07:02 |
| tjaalton | I'm not sure if the hal patch will be SRU'd, but hope so | 07:02 |
| tjaalton | maco: yes, you can only initialize the device with one set of parameters when using input-hotplug | 07:03 |
| tjaalton | so the driver needs some love | 07:03 |
| maco | tjaalton: updated version ok? | 07:04 |
| tjaalton | YABC, a sec | 07:06 |
| maco | yabc? | 07:07 |
| tjaalton | yet-another-browser-crash | 07:07 |
| tjaalton | just invented it myself ;) | 07:07 |
| maco | gotcha | 07:08 |
| tjaalton | maco: yep, looks fine | 07:09 |
| maco | kk thanks | 07:09 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| niadh | I know this is probably gonna be a pain, but I've just got up, intending to upgrade ubuntu while I am out today, any reason why upgrade manager ain't showing the update option? | 10:30 |
| RAOF | 'cause it's not released yet? Also, probably better asked on #ubuntu+1, I'd wager :) | 10:30 |
| niadh | Was under the impression it's out today | 10:31 |
| niadh | Of course it doesn't mean 9AM today | 10:31 |
| niadh | Just wondered | 10:31 |
| Hew | niadh: Watch #ubuntu+1. It's not out yet, but should be out some time today. | 10:32 |
| RAOF | Yeah. It'll be out sometime today, barring huge last minute problems. | 10:32 |
| Hew | niadh: Also #ubuntu-release-party | 10:32 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: ping | 11:15 |
| Bodsda | morning | 11:16 |
| BUGabundo_work | good morning | 11:16 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: hey ;) | 11:17 |
| Bodsda | downloading intrepid rc atm -- 8.04 is running really slow for me so i think its time for some spring cleaning | 11:17 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: got my messages? | 11:17 |
| BUGabundo_work | not yet | 11:17 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: look in mail + bug ;) | 11:17 |
| BUGabundo_work | I publish one of my passwords online! | 11:17 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: he? | 11:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | took most of the morning to change my old passwords | 11:18 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: oh :) | 11:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | and now I'm in meetings | 11:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | didn't even had time to turn laptop on | 11:18 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah. ok anyway ... PPA version should work. | 11:18 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i gave hints how to workaround without that patch in bug | 11:18 |
| * BUGabundo_work opens ubuntu mailbox | 11:18 | |
| asac | s/PPA version/new PPA version/ | 11:19 |
| * BUGabundo_work laptop booting | 11:21 | |
| BUGabundo_work | is anyone getting "floating point exception" on skype 64bits? | 11:42 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: sorry to say, but VPN still won't work after the update! | 11:48 |
| BUGabundo_work | do I need to reboot? | 11:48 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: depends | 11:49 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: which -pptp version do you have installed now? | 11:49 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: does the workaround work for you? | 11:50 |
| asac | for me stuff works now | 11:50 |
| BUGabundo_work | PPA version of course | 11:50 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: which ;)? | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | haven't read it yet | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | brb | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | user probs | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache show network-manager-pptp | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo | Architecture: amd64 | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo | Version: 0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu2~nm2 | 11:54 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: works for me | 11:54 |
| asac | i am currently connected | 11:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i had to select MPPE | 11:55 |
| asac | thats all | 11:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | I have it on | 11:55 |
| asac | and dont use password | 11:55 |
| asac | because that doesnt work | 11:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: dump your connection | 11:55 |
| asac | create a new one | 11:55 |
| asac | most likely you tweaked something else | 11:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | 1st thing I did | 11:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | the ballon won't even show up... | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | it desapears in less then half a sec | 11:56 |
| asac | which balloon? | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | the FAILED connection | 11:56 |
| asac | well. i think you have other issues then. what error do you get in syslog now? | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | just tested to a 2nd vpn and it also failed! | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | let me tail it | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64567/ | 11:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | nothing there! | 11:58 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: you should really get to a clean state | 11:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | ok | 11:59 |
| asac | wipe keyring stuff | 11:59 |
| asac | and such | 11:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | what do I need? | 11:59 |
| asac | you need to have a new password dialog triggered | 11:59 |
| asac | not sure | 11:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | rm /etc ? | 11:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | ROFL | 12:00 |
| asac | i dont know | 12:00 |
| asac | really | 12:00 |
| BUGabundo_work | apt-get remove --purge nm * | 12:00 |
| asac | no | 12:00 |
| asac | you need to remove your keyring stuff | 12:00 |
| asac | open seahorse | 12:00 |
| asac | and remove stuff from there | 12:00 |
| asac | all passwords and things | 12:00 |
| asac | and also dont fill the password in the connection editor | 12:00 |
| BUGabundo_work | ok | 12:00 |
| BUGabundo_work | the ONLY key there as been removed | 12:00 |
| asac | well | 12:01 |
| asac | then ensure that you dont have a password in the connection | 12:01 |
| asac | at best dump it again | 12:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | deleting VPNs and doing new ones | 12:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | wait.. | 12:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | I'm going to boot livecd | 12:01 |
| asac | just fill in username gateway and no passord | 12:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | and test from there | 12:01 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: no need to | 12:01 |
| BUGabundo | no ? | 12:01 |
| asac | you just need get back to a state you always had yesterday | 12:01 |
| asac | i am sure you can figure that out | 12:01 |
| asac | i mean that you get asked for password and such | 12:02 |
| asac | and that there is actually a connect attempt in the log | 12:02 |
| asac | the package certainly didnt change anything in this regard | 12:02 |
| BUGabundo_work | no need for domain?? | 12:02 |
| BUGabundo_work | I'm entereing it! | 12:02 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yes domain is ok | 12:02 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: if you read bug/mail you see how you can encode that in the username though | 12:02 |
| BUGabundo_work | CAPS or lower case? | 12:02 |
| asac | ... which allows you to use it without the ppa package | 12:03 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: domain? here its caps | 12:03 |
| * BUGabundo checks LP bugmil | 12:03 | |
| BUGabundo | windows uses it as CAPS | 12:03 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i think it even works here without a domain ;) | 12:03 |
| BUGabundo_work | does it escape passwords correctly? | 12:04 |
| asac | what do i know | 12:04 |
| * BUGabundo connetcing | 12:04 | |
| asac | my password was simple enough | 12:04 |
| * BUGabundo VPN Connection Failed | 12:04 | |
| asac | that error is unimportant | 12:04 |
| asac | you need to get the ssylog as always | 12:04 |
| BUGabundo | LCP terminated by peer (;'w^I^@<M-Mt^@^@^BM-f) | 12:05 |
| BUGabundo | I guess this is it now | 12:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah. .. thats MPPE | 12:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah | 12:05 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64569/ | 12:05 |
| asac | enable MPPE ... at least that made it work here | 12:05 |
| * BUGabundo makes MPPE on... forgot last time | 12:06 | |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: cool. also i just verified. at least my account works without domain :) | 12:06 |
| asac | but also with domain or with domain encoded in username | 12:06 |
| asac | e.g. DOMAIN\username or username@DOMAIN | 12:06 |
| BUGabundo_work | yeah | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | it should work | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | hey... my messages didn't came | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | IT WORKSSSSS | 12:08 |
| asac | cool ;) | 12:08 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: so passwords get properly encoded | 12:08 |
| asac | gtk | 12:08 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: now please test WPA-Enterprise ;) | 12:09 |
| asac | i think the problem with the password in the settings directly needs to be dealt too | 12:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | not there! | 12:09 |
| asac | but i can figure that ;) | 12:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | only tonight when I get to Universaty | 12:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | can we make MPPE on by default? | 12:09 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: not sure :/ | 12:10 |
| asac | i mean technically for sure | 12:10 |
| asac | not sure what is wanted | 12:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | 2nd vpn is failing | 12:10 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: which error? | 12:11 |
| BUGabundo_work | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64573 | 12:11 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: but it succeeds first right? | 12:12 |
| asac | i mean it gets ip an all | 12:12 |
| * BUGabundo hates when VPNs disconect IRC | 12:12 | |
| BUGabundo | diff VPNs | 12:12 |
| BUGabundo | not the company anymore | 12:12 |
| BUGabundo | its the univ VPN now | 12:12 |
| BUGabundo | I think I can talk to the admin to get you an account too | 12:12 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: maybe try options first | 12:13 |
| BUGabundo | MPPE disabled | 12:13 |
| BUGabundo | why did it got disable? | 12:13 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: you definitly connected and got an IP | 12:13 |
| BUGabundo | nm-pptp-service-4519 warn[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:331]: short read (-1): Message too long | 12:13 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah. thats most likely the reason why its disconnecting | 12:13 |
| asac | the MPPE disabled stuff is most likely just output when shutting down | 12:13 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: is the gateway and stuff correct? | 12:15 |
| asac | looks a bit "simple" :) | 12:15 |
| * BUGabundo_work checking | 12:16 | |
| * BUGabundo asking the Univ network admin for VPN logs | 12:16 | |
| asac | also a bit strange that the second DNS comes from a complete different net: | 12:17 |
| asac | 192.168.62.8 <-> 10.0.0.1 | 12:17 |
| BUGabundo_work | VPN is now on! | 12:17 |
| BUGabundo_work | tried a mirror server | 12:18 |
| asac | ok. so bogus vpn server | 12:18 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: please talk to admin | 12:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | talking | 12:18 |
| asac | and figure out if its a misconfiguration and if it is figure out if windows users are affected or if they have more magic | 12:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64576 Success | 12:19 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yay ;) | 12:19 |
| asac | good stuff | 12:19 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: do you remember how the domain/username encoding looks like in a windows login box? | 12:19 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: is it like DOMAIN\user ... or DOMAIN\\user ? | 12:19 |
| asac | i think i saw that once ... but thats years ago :( | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo_work | retested inicial server and it failed again | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo_work | its a server setting I guess | 12:20 |
| BUGabundo_work | mirror server works | 12:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | but requires MPPE | 12:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | DOMAIN\user single slash on windows | 12:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: so the other doesnt require MPPE? | 12:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | user@DOMAIN also valid | 12:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: try to disable it then (though i guess thats obvious to test ;)) | 12:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: ok cool | 12:21 |
| asac | thanks | 12:21 |
| asac | (domain encoding) | 12:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yes know that @ is the modern way | 12:21 |
| * BUGabundo_work testing all 3 servers without MPPE | 12:22 | |
| asac | but most likely it will never be THE standard way ... as always ;) | 12:22 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i think the first already failed right? | 12:22 |
| asac | oh sorry | 12:22 |
| * asac confuses work/school | 12:22 | |
| BUGabundo | School server 1 with MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/64580/ | 12:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yeah thats the bogus address stuff | 12:23 |
| asac | we need admin input on whats special and if that server works at all on windows | 12:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: or doese it work without MPPE? | 12:23 |
| BUGabundo | School server 1 withOUT MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/64581 | 12:24 |
| asac | oh that server at least tells that MPPE is required | 12:24 |
| BUGabundo | School server mirror withOUT MPPE fail | 12:24 |
| asac | your work server just continues | 12:24 |
| BUGabundo_work | got a time out now | 12:25 |
| BUGabundo_work | on the mirror | 12:25 |
| BUGabundo | School server mirror WITH MPPE timeout http://paste.ubuntu.com/64583/ | 12:26 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: which server worked before? | 12:27 |
| BUGabundo_work | that one | 12:27 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: try again | 12:27 |
| BUGabundo_work | msvpn1.dei.... | 12:27 |
| BUGabundo_work | and now it Simply Worked | 12:27 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: ok. try a few times ... with and without disconnecting first | 12:28 |
| BUGabundo | School server mirror WITH MPPE Success http://paste.ubuntu.com/64585/ | 12:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | School server mirror WITH MPPE SUCESS http://paste.ubuntu.com/64585 | 12:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | humm I'm lagging!!! lol missed that on IRC | 12:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | the admin is offline now! not sure if he went to check this stuff | 12:29 |
| BUGabundo | ubottu: ping | 12:29 |
| ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 12:29 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: well ... i think the failure might also been have due to the server | 12:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: you should try multiple times to get a better feeling about the fail ratio | 12:30 |
| BUGabundo_work | at least I know have 2 working servers | 12:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: so you have 3 servers in school | 12:30 |
| BUGabundo_work | tonigh I'll teste the VPN over open WiFi | 12:30 |
| BUGabundo_work | and test EDUROAM | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | no asac | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | 2 vpn server at school | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | plus one at work | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | I know I'm babbling all over the place | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | making it hard for you to follow | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | now we have a post release update to do | 12:32 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: admin is back | 12:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | trying to get him to look at the server | 12:33 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: ok | 12:33 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: anyway. even the current package works if you encode the domain in the username | 12:33 |
| * BUGabundo finally some time to look at backlog emails! | 12:34 | |
| asac | and dont use the domain field in NM | 12:34 |
| BUGabundo_work | LOL | 12:34 |
| BUGabundo_work | release notes maybe? | 12:34 |
| asac | not sure. the vpn plugins should be more important, but they are not on CD | 12:34 |
| asac | and not even in main | 12:34 |
| BUGabundo_work | but people upgrading | 12:35 |
| asac | we will get the update in asap. that should be good enough i think | 12:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | will get a non working VPN | 12:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | that might leave some users without ANY chance to fix | 12:35 |
| snap-l | Did anyone else receive a security update today? | 12:38 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: well. the notes are all done and so ;) | 12:38 |
| asac | snap-l: whats the problem? | 12:38 |
| BUGabundo_work | I did snap-l | 12:39 |
| snap-l | I'm not seeing any notes for what the issue was. | 12:39 |
| snap-l | More curious than anything | 12:39 |
| asac | snap-l: not sure. look http://www.ubuntu.com/usn | 12:42 |
| asac | most likely you got one of the more recent ones then | 12:43 |
| jdstrand | snap-l: it is expected. base-files needed an update before intrepid was released, so no USN. it went through -security because of the extrememly late hour in the release process | 12:43 |
| asac | jdstrand: thanks for helping out ;) | 12:43 |
| snap-l | jdstrand: Thanks for the clarification. :) | 12:44 |
| jdstrand | np | 12:44 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: could you post a syslog that shows the authentication error to the bug? | 13:20 |
| asac | at best replace the description | 13:20 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: if oyu want you can open a new bug for the MPPE by default thing | 13:21 |
| asac | and point the other reports in the bug to that one (as some appear to have been struck by that too) | 13:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: it could be great if we made a poll, and ask users on that bug to vote if it worked best with or without MPPE | 13:34 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: well. bugs attract a highly biased user base :) | 13:37 |
| Bit_Breaker | hello all | 13:38 |
| Bit_Breaker | i was wondering if the images provided here, can be crafted to work in VBox | 13:39 |
| Bit_Breaker | http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ | 13:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: (13:02:56) André: | 13:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | Embora os dois serviços (msvpn e msvpn1) sejam semelhantes, têm algumas diferenças entre eles, por exemplo o msvpn1 suporta MPPC e também chaves statefull. | 13:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | the admin says both machines are similar | 13:39 |
| Bit_Breaker | they are a part of this wikihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase | 13:40 |
| asac | Bit_Breaker: wouldnt think so. you could ask QA folks if they have prepared vbox images | 13:40 |
| BUGabundo_work | but mirror server as MPPC and statefull keys | 13:40 |
| Bit_Breaker | asac: ok who would that be? QA that is . | 13:40 |
| asac | Bit_Breaker: maybe ask on #ubuntu-testing .... but i think to remember that thats on their todo list. so most likely there are no vbox images yet | 13:41 |
| CaPriCoRN^80 | persia: hi | 13:42 |
| CaPriCoRN^80 | i have read the documentation | 13:42 |
| CaPriCoRN^80 | i tried to report a bug related to 8.04 | 13:43 |
| CaPriCoRN^80 | but didnt get any response | 13:43 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: you got me lost now! | 13:43 |
| BUGabundo_work | what bug log do you mean I should post to the bug?? | 13:44 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: no. reproduce the bug log that leads to the AUTHETNTICATION failure | 13:44 |
| asac | that wone with the =691 code | 13:44 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: if you still have it somewhere just use that :) | 13:44 |
| Bit_Breaker | asac: thanks | 13:45 |
| BUGabundo_work | ill have to look for IRC logs and get the pastebin of it | 13:46 |
| Bit_Breaker | asac: how can i help make images for Vbox | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo_work | or my console logs... even maybe by grepping my syslog | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo_work | I never delete them | 13:46 |
| asac | Bit_Breaker: ask folks on #ubuntu-testing. they are the one to coordinate that imo. at best wait a day to make release dust settle there | 13:46 |
| asac | Bit_Breaker: they are most likely still busy | 13:46 |
| Bit_Breaker | ok | 13:46 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| seb128 | mvo: should bug #290921 stays open as an ubuntu bug if you opened a rt about it? | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290921 in ubuntu "archive.ubuntu.com config prevents caching" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290921 | 14:31 |
| bddebian | Boo | 14:33 |
| mvo | seb128: I have no idea, it feels like it should given that its not resolved yet | 14:33 |
| mvo | but I don't have a strong opinion on it | 14:33 |
| seb128 | mvo: that's not an ubuntu bug though, it has been moved to a rt which seems to correct media no? | 14:33 |
| mvo | ok, fine with me to close it "notforus" :) | 14:34 |
| * mvo thinks we need more close states | 14:34 | |
| seb128 | I don't really care but that's the sort of bugs which stay open for ever | 14:34 |
| seb128 | that seems noise | 14:34 |
| mvo | I included the bugnumer in the ticket in the hope that RT would close it | 14:35 |
| mvo | but yeah, we might as well close it now that its forwarded | 14:35 |
| Ohmu_ | I got a bug in gnome-ppp. The init-string fields start at 2, not 1 (zero would be ok by me...), and they eat whatever values you put in them. Next time you bring up the box, the values are reset. | 14:37 |
| === x-spec-t is now known as Spec | ||
| joaopinto | anyone ever found this error: nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed ? | 16:19 |
| joaopinto | my resolv.conf is a mixed result from networkmanager and the AT&T VPN client | 16:20 |
| joaopinto | and it looks fine to me :P | 16:20 |
| afflux | we had some issues with -386 packages being installed around gutsy or so, didn't we? | 17:13 |
| afflux | anyone happen to have the report at hand? | 17:13 |
| psusi | so what do you do with a bug report that has been filed in a language you do not understand? | 18:37 |
| bdmurray | psusi: do you have any idea what language it is? | 18:38 |
| psusi | looks like it might be german | 18:38 |
| bdmurray | I think we have some people who know german here | 18:39 |
| bdmurray | I hate to just close the bug report as the person is making an effort to help out | 18:40 |
| thekorn | psusi, can you give me the bug number | 18:40 |
| psusi | yea, bug #175329 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 175329 in dmraid "dmraid lies sich nicht installieren oder aktualisieren" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175329 | 18:40 |
| thekorn | psusi, yes germen, let me have a look | 18:41 |
| psusi | well, the report is also a year old so... maybe I should just close it for being old and ask them to change it back to new if they are still around... | 18:41 |
| thekorn | hmm, its about updating this package in 7.10, I think I'll close this bug and ask him to reopen if this is still a problem | 18:44 |
| psusi | sounds good to me | 18:44 |
| psusi | thanks | 18:44 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: could you also mention bug reports are more likely to get attention if reported in English? | 18:44 |
| thekorn | yes, will do | 18:44 |
| bdmurray | Thanks! | 18:45 |
| asac | bdmurray: you really want to keep non-native bugs open? | 19:51 |
| asac | bdmurray: i mean then we should do that officially and try to get a "bug" translator team up ;) | 19:52 |
| asac | i usually just close stuff | 19:52 |
| bdmurray | asac: yeah, I think having a bug translation team would be a good idea | 19:52 |
| asac | well. for me requiring a proxy isnt that promissing ;) | 19:54 |
| asac | translation team would be at least more-responsive than the average bug triager ;) | 19:54 |
| asac | otherwise they would probably be a bottle neck | 19:54 |
| === thekorn__ is now known as thekorn_ | ||
| hamza | hi , i have a problem with playing video w | 21:27 |
| hamza | anyone here ?! | 21:27 |
| maco | yes, but if it's a help request, that goes in #ubuntu | 21:28 |
| maco | this channel's mostly for triaging | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ping | 21:34 |
| asac | BUGabundo: ? | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | hi | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | just uploaded a log to 272185 | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | updating now to nm4 | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | and trying the new timeout | 21:35 |
| asac | BUGabundo: do you get the timeout error? | 21:36 |
| maco | oh oh where's the server team (i think?) so they can freak about contentless-pings? | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | with nm3 yes | 21:36 |
| maco | ^_^ | 21:36 |
| asac | BUGabundo: right | 21:36 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yeah give it a try .... buts ridiculous already | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64815/ | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | I'm now 3mts from the AP | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | of course RADIUS servers here suck... | 21:37 |
| asac | BUGabundo: well. go ahead | 21:37 |
| asac | let me know if this thing succeeds after ages ;) | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | I also failed to connect to another AP with out encription | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | and noticed that if I ran sudo dhclient wlan2 I would get connected | 21:37 |
| asac | thats something different most likely | 21:37 |
| asac | BUGabundo: thats a driver bug then most likely | 21:38 |
| asac | or maybe wpasupplicant in a bad state after broken EAP attempts | 21:38 |
| * BUGabundo hopes PPA download speed is better then Main and mirrors | 21:39 | |
| BUGabundo | I've seen mirrors with 70 system load | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | its crazy!!! | 21:39 |
| ogra | the whole datacenter suffers on release day :) | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 21:39 |
| asac | sounds warm ;) | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | I track a mirror here! | 21:39 |
| asac | like holiday ;) | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | and we just wish it can make through the weekend | 21:39 |
| ogra | asac, well, there is a holiday tomorrow :) | 21:39 |
| asac | ogra: not here | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | http://neacm.fe.up.pt/stats/sysinfo/ | 21:40 |
| ogra | unless hamburg switched to be catholic | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | Load Averages 24.17 22.36 22.19 | 21:40 |
| asac | ogra: no ... its not a public holiday here even though we are not catholic | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | asac: reboot to get the new NM4 | 21:40 |
| asac | most likely this means that there is no religion here | 21:40 |
| ogra | heh | 21:41 |
| asac | ogra: or maybe i just have never heard of this day ;) | 21:41 |
| ogra | oh, carp | 21:41 |
| ogra | *crap even | 21:41 |
| asac | I'll will certainly notice when no stores have open tomorrow | 21:41 |
| asac | ;) | 21:41 |
| ogra | "am Fr.,31.10. ist Reformationstag | 21:41 |
| ogra | gesetzlicher Feiertag in Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Thüringen." | 21:41 |
| asac | see | 21:41 |
| ogra | gah | 21:41 |
| asac | thats how it works | 21:41 |
| asac | ostfeiertag halt | 21:42 |
| * ogra has to work tomorrow | 21:42 | |
| ogra | heh | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | by the way asac | 21:42 |
| asac | ogra: glaube das liegt daran, dass die dort luther hatten ;) | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | how do I do use wpa manually? | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | I'm out of train | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | haven't used it since gutsy | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | brb | 21:42 |
| ogra | asac, niedersachsen hatter reformationstag bis vor n paar jahren :/ | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | asac: back | 21:45 |
| asac | BUGabundo: well. now it takes at most 3 minutes until we know more | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | Oct 30 21:46:06 blubug NetworkManager: <info> (wlan2): supplicant connection state change: 0 -> 4 | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | Oct 30 21:46:21 blubug NetworkManager: <info> wlan2: link timed out. | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | or not! | 21:46 |
| asac | BUGabundo: no thats ok | 21:46 |
| asac | the usual confusing messages from driver | 21:46 |
| asac | if you wouldnt get that it wouldnt take so long in the first place | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | ah ok | 21:46 |
| asac | BUGabundo: do you tail the wpasupplicant.log? | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | OT do you have a LP bug for the Tainted Network messages when modprob -r iwlagn && modprob iwlagn | 21:47 |
| asac | thats important ... i want to see whats going on during connect attempt | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | i'am | 21:47 |
| asac | BUGabundo: tainted? | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | hummm no | 21:48 |
| asac | i dont get those ;) | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | not wpasupp | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | just syslog | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | I get ... should I file a new bug? | 21:48 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yes why not. | 21:48 |
| * BUGabundo tailing wpasup | 21:48 | |
| asac | BUGabundo: if it still fails after 3 minutes i need wpasupp | 21:48 |
| asac | log together with syslog | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | CTRL-EVENT-EAP-FAILURE EAP authentication failed | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | 2nd try with fresh logs | 21:49 |
| asac | BUGabundo: flush the drivers too before that | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | OpenSSL: tls_connection_handshake - Failed to read possible Application Data error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0) | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | how do I do that? | 21:50 |
| asac | BUGabundo: reload the modeules | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | naaa | 21:50 |
| asac | then give NM some time to settle | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | if I do that I need to reboot | 21:50 |
| asac | then tail stuff and reproduce | 21:50 |
| asac | BUGabundo: you need? | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | I can't get my wifi back | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | if I remove the module | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I said I get a tainted message | 21:50 |
| asac | sounds quite bad | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | even if I turn WiFi off from NM | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | it won't came back | 21:51 |
| asac | please paste output of modinfo iwlagn | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/64824/ | 21:51 |
| asac | BUGabundo: but you are sure its Tunneled TLS what you need? | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | I'm sure | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | it worked just fine with Hardy | 21:52 |
| asac | yeah get me the logs first then | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | and previous versions of nm0.7 | 21:52 |
| asac | BUGabundo: do you still have the hardy kernels ? | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | but now it won't even connect | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | nop | 21:52 |
| asac | BUGabundo: what did you do with those? | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | just 2.6.26-5 and 2.6.27-7 | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | apt-get remove | 21:52 |
| asac | BUGabundo: maybe try .26 | 21:52 |
| asac | BUGabundo: thats a bad idea | 21:53 |
| asac | you should always keep them ;) | 21:53 |
| asac | they do no harm :-P | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | it was working!!! lol | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | as I said, only in the last week and a halt it stoped | 21:53 |
| asac | BUGabundo: what is working? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | before that I had lots of timeouts | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | wifi with eduroam | 21:53 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yeah try 26 kernel please | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | aint that what we are talking about? | 21:53 |
| asac | well you are not always precise | 21:54 |
| asac | so i have to ask seemingly stupid questions sometimes | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | no prob | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | I'll try to be more precise | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | be right back | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | NM [finally] connected to the other AP (without encription) | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | going to test VPN over WiFi | 21:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo: that works for me | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | need to unplug the eth to be sure I'm using the correct connection | 21:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo: better get this issue sortd. dont get distracted ;) | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | brb | 21:55 |
| asac | try .26 kernel | 21:55 |
| asac | also try to do it manually with a wpa_supplicant.conf | 21:56 |
| asac | Burgundavia: ^^ also i am still waiting for a supplicant log ;) | 21:59 |
| angusthefuzz | do any of you maintain the list of bug testing virtualbox images: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ | 22:10 |
| angusthefuzz | The link is on the bug wiki knowledgebase page | 22:10 |
| bdmurray | angusthefuzz: I'm familiar with them but don't maintain them | 22:19 |
| angusthefuzz | bdmurray: the list is just really out of date and I wondered how I might help make some new images for testing | 22:20 |
| angusthefuzz | bdmurray: I happen to have server and desktop default installs for virtualbox already and I thought i might package them up for others to use | 22:20 |
| angusthefuzz | (8.10) | 22:21 |
| * BUGabundo loves to run on 800x600.... bah old kernels... | 22:22 | |
| BUGabundo | asac: 2.6.26-5 only has iwl4965 not iwlagn | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | can't even turn my wifi on! | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | angusthefuzz: could you e-mail the ubuntu-qa mailing list about that so it can be discussed? | 22:22 |
| angusthefuzz | sure | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | asac: rebooting to 2.6.27-7 | 22:23 |
| bdmurray | We've discussed providing virtual machine images before and I think it would be quite useful | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | bdmurray: for upgrade testing? | 22:24 |
| * BUGabundo rebooting | 22:24 | |
| bdmurray | BUGabundo: or SRU verification | 22:24 |
| angusthefuzz | bdmurray: I also think it would be useful, that way triagers can test things without messing with their own system | 22:26 |
| bdmurray | angusthefuzz: right and install strange packages | 22:26 |
| angusthefuzz | or patches, etc | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | asac: tailing new logs | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | asac: [ 16.660173] cfg80211: Regulatory domain: US | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | I'm in Europe... lol | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/ | 22:34 |
| * BUGabundo is this thing on?? | 22:34 | |
| BUGabundo | ping ubottu | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | ping ubottu | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | ubottu: ping | 22:35 |
| ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | ahh its alive | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/ | 22:35 |
| === apw is now known as ap | ||
| angusthefuzz | bdmurray: the email has been sent, hopefully it will be well-received | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | Call Trace: \n [<ffffffff8024e9b4>] warn_on_slowpath+0x64/0x90 \n Pid: 7019, comm: wpa_supplicant Tainted | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | means anything to anyone? | 22:41 |
| === ap is now known as apw | ||
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291291 | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291291 in wpasupplicant "wpa_supplicant Tainted" [Undecided,New] | 22:48 |
| asac | BUGabundo: looks bad ... i think its a bad idea to unload reload module when wpasupp is still running | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | then make it resileant to it | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | I just used NM | 22:53 |
| asac | NM has nothing to do with that tainted thing | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | I just clicked on the nm-applet to turn WiFi off | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | if that is what is inloading modules | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | then there is where we need to start fixing | 22:56 |
| asac | no its the driver that goes down | 22:56 |
| asac | no its not | 22:56 |
| asac | anyway thanks so far. we will see | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | sure | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | just trying to debug | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | asac: I also uploaded the wpa logs | 22:58 |
| angusthefuzz | bdmurray: I just found out that test image maintainer is an open qa position: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/KeyPositions | 23:37 |
| bdmurray | angusthefuzz: oh, so it is! | 23:38 |
| angusthefuzz | maybe this will prompt them to fill the position :-) | 23:40 |
| hggdh | angusthefuzz, why don't you propose for that? | 23:48 |
| angusthefuzz | hggdh: I am thinking about it. I am worried that my upload isnt fast enough for multiple weekly images (i only get about 50 KB/s) | 23:50 |
| hggdh | huh, that's not going to do the trick... | 23:50 |
| * Hobbsee is wondering how the images actually get made. | 23:50 | |
| * hggdh was also thinking (in a tortuous way) about that | 23:51 | |
| angusthefuzz | Hobbsee: basically you perform an install in virtualbox, then take the resulting image file and zip it up | 23:51 |
| Hobbsee | angusthefuzz: ahhh | 23:51 |
| angusthefuzz | the trick is to do nothing to the install, to keep it as default as possible | 23:51 |
| hggdh | aye | 23:51 |
| angusthefuzz | but whoever filled that role would constantly be downloading isos and installing and reuploading them | 23:52 |
| hggdh | methinks VBox could be automated for that | 23:52 |
| angusthefuzz | hggdh: I agree | 23:52 |
| Hobbsee | the biggest problem there would be when the iso's don't install. | 23:52 |
| * Hobbsee --> uni | 23:52 | |
| Hobbsee | which is a lot of the time | 23:52 |
| Hobbsee | and/or the installer dosen't work. | 23:52 |
| hggdh | the problem is actually more complex: in the US most ISPs now impose a download cap per month -- 5G, usually | 23:53 |
| angusthefuzz | luckily mine isnt one of them | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: not all countries have that, fortunately. | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | (mine does too, though) | 23:53 |
| hggdh | downloading all ISOs may very much blow the cap | 23:53 |
| angusthefuzz | and actually, I have access to a university network that is plenty fast enough | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: stick 'em on a linode or something. WOuldn't be overly difficult. | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | a lot fo people have servers around | 23:53 |
| hggdh | but this could be split, with some people working, each on a ISO image | 23:53 |
| angusthefuzz | hggdh: also, im not sure weekly is necessary, maybe even every other week would provide updated enough images most of the time | 23:54 |
| angusthefuzz | its better than right now, I think 7.10 is the latest they have | 23:54 |
| hggdh | we would need an update every time a new alpha, beta, or rc, or GA is put out | 23:54 |
| angusthefuzz | hggdh: yes, definitely | 23:54 |
| hggdh | so this puts the crunch only in the last few weeks of a release cycle | 23:55 |
| angusthefuzz | hggdh: back to your automation comment, I am not sure vbox could go through an install without any manual input | 23:55 |
| hggdh | I am not sure how we could answer the default install questions automated | 23:56 |
| angusthefuzz | that would be tricky, if its even possible, plus I wouldnt be there to file new bugs if I found problems | 23:56 |
| mrooney | Is there an easy way to switch locales, say to debug an issue? | 23:57 |
| hggdh | mrooney, I *knew* the answer -- and it was simple. But I forgot... :-( | 23:58 |
| mrooney | For example if I want to see an issue with a translation, how might I get applications to use it? | 23:59 |
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