[06:53] <amitk> morning..
[07:05] <NCommander> morning amitk & BenC 
[07:33] <amitk> morning NCommander 
[10:09] <ganes> i compiled the config file 2.6.18 to kernel source 2.6.26 as .config & ran make oldconfig ., then also it is asking questions .. why
[10:10] <amitk> ganes: because 2.6.27 have LOTS of newer options that weren't in 2.6.28
[10:10] <amitk> s/have/has
[10:10] <amitk> s/2.6.28/2.6.18
[10:10] <amitk> sigh
[10:11] <ganes> amitk, i copied the config file of 18 to kernel source 26
[10:11] <ganes> amitk, not kernel source 27
[10:12] <amitk> ganes: same answer... there is a large difference between config options of 2.6.18 and 2.6.26
[10:13] <ganes> amitk, cant i supress the newer options by copying the 18
[10:14] <amitk> ganes: why would you want to do that? and I know of no way to do that either.
[10:15] <ganes> amitk, since i didnt know what to select in that newer option..
[10:16] <ganes> amitk, lot of good features provided by the config file ubuntu server8.04
[10:16] <ganes> amitk, if i give just enter to the newer option .. what happen 
[10:16] <ganes> amitk, will it take the oldone
[10:16] <amitk> ganes: the defaults are usually good. 8.04 doesn't use either 2.6.18 or 2.6.26
[10:17] <ganes> amitk, sory ubuntu server
[10:17] <ganes> config file
[10:18] <ganes> amitk, with that config file .. i just gave enter to the newer option .. will it affect the existing one ..
[10:18] <amitk> no
[10:45] <ganes> amitk, thanks
[14:32] <bsnider> i wondered if a patched ath9k is being developed for inclusion in a future version of the intrepid backports package?
[14:33] <rtg> bsnider: are there deficiencies with the current ath9k in LBM ?
[14:33] <bsnider> rtg, hahahaa. sorry. i didn't know ath9k was in lbm at the present time. i thought only ath5k was there
[14:34] <rtg> bsnider: it was there last time I tested, though I couldn't say how bulletproof it is.
[14:34] <rtg> I'm working on the next version of LBM
[14:35] <bsnider> so that's preferable to the one that's in the regular ubuntu kernel? i'm talking about the connection issues everybody's had with ath9k
[14:36] <bsnider> rtg, you're tim gardner, correct?
[14:37] <rtg> bsnider: live and in person
[14:37] <bsnider> yeah, so i'm talking to the right person
[14:37] <rtg> perhaps :)
[14:37] <bsnider> i was reading bug reports yesterday about this, and i can't for the life of me find them now
[14:38] <rtg> bsnider: well, I think the ath9k in 2.6.27 is a little steamy, and I completely disabled ath5k.
[14:38] <rtg> thats why I'm recommending LBM.
[14:40] <bsnider> but the connection issues were fixed by a patch that was on luis rodriguez's bug tracking site for the actual driver. on launchpad, i think it was sack who asked you to look at that patch. i'm wondering if that patch was applied to the one that's in LBM now (or if not, what other differences would there be?)
[14:41] <bsnider> i read all the changelogs for the LBM package this months and never saw ath9k mentioned
[14:42] <rtg> bsnider: LBM comes from upstream compat-wireless which is essentially Linville's wireless-test tree. So, its far more advanced then what is currently in 2.6.27 (and I'm almost positive it would include the ath9k pathc)
[14:42] <rtg> patch, even.
[14:42] <bsnider> rtg, that's right! that'
[14:42] <bsnider> that's who had the patch it was john linville
[14:42] <bsnider> alright, so i definitely need to switch
[14:43] <rtg> bsnider: do you have a reference for that bug? I guess I need to start some SRUs already.
[14:43] <bsnider> rtg, like i said earlier, i couldn't find it last night after having read it yesterday afternoon
[14:44] <rtg> bsnider: well, asac has likely assigned it to me, so I'll stumble over it eventually.
[14:44] <asac> ?
[14:45] <asac> bsnider: ?
[14:45] <bsnider> but i think bug 259157 should be closed and marked as fixed in the current LBM package
[14:45] <asac> ath9k?
[14:45] <asac> ok ;) ... being not lazy and scrolling back helps
[14:46] <rtg> asac: isn't it about release party time for you?
[14:46] <asac> rtg: yay ;)
[14:46] <bsnider> i think sack was the one that pointed you to linville's patch. but i cannot remember where i saw that post (other than it was on launchpad somewhere).
[14:47] <asac> rtg: i will take off tonight and celebrate ;)
[14:48] <rtg> bsnider: bug 259157 is in reference to ath5k, not ath9k
[14:48] <rtg> asac: yeah, I was up late working on a -security kernel (already), so I'm gonna quit early.
[14:48] <bsnider> rtg, the bug was opened by an ath9k user
[14:49] <asac> rtg: i remember that i had issues with firefox updates that were supposed to go out a day after release, but then we noticed that archive was completely locked for some copy operation ;)
[14:49] <asac> i hope you won't face the same ;)
[14:49] <asac> isnt really nice to work all night and day and then find out that you cannot technically release
[14:49] <rtg> asac: all I had to do wasthe packaging. The actual upload has to be done by kees, so I'm outta the loop.
[14:52] <bsnider> rtg, Bug #269711
[14:55] <rtg> bsnider: well, try LBM in the interim.
[15:29] <bsnider> rtg, right, i'll test it and get back to you
[15:30] <bsnider> i'm also going to get hollocher to test it when i get ahold of him
[15:55] <bsnider> rtg, how does the backports package work? does it overwrite the kernel version or set up a dpkg-divert?
[15:55] <rtg> bsnider: no, it just creates new kernel modules that get loaded by modprobe.
[15:56] <bsnider> so i don't have to blacklist ath9k after installing lbm?
[15:56] <rtg> bsnider: it should load the ath9k from LBM
[15:57] <bsnider> very well
[16:58] <danbh_intrepid> hey rtg I was talking to bsnider about the ath9k drivers.  He asked me to test the ones in lbm, and to report any problems I have.  Connection on login works fine, but attempting a reconnection results in allot of timeouts (between 5 and 10 get listed on dmesg before I get connected again.  Only 1 timeout for the login connection.) (Im reconnecting with network manager).  Would you like me to report this in anyway?
[16:58] <rtg> danbh_intrepid: once you're connected, does it manage heavy traffic?
[16:59] <danbh_intrepid> rtg: yeah
[17:00] <rtg> so it seems more like a connection issue. I have a couple of ath9k's, so I can test as well.
[17:01] <danbh_intrepid> rtg: I may have had a problem with that once or twice with the old driver, but that was very hard to pin down.  It sprang up with double the traffic I have now, and tons of bittorrent connections going.  It was pretty rare
[17:02] <rtg> its likely gonna be a day or two before I can get to it. got some key repeat issues to explore.
[17:02] <danbh_intrepid> mk, well, if you need testing, just post to that [MASTER] bug
[17:03] <danbh_intrepid> rtg: does that repeat key issue have to do with evdev?
[17:04] <rtg> dunno yet, just getting into it.
[17:04] <danbh_intrepid> is there a bug you are working off?
[17:05] <rtg> BenC: do you remember the key repeat bug number?
[17:05] <danbh_intrepid> I was just curious if the bug I filed is a dupe: bug 264196
[17:06] <danbh_intrepid> eh em: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196
[17:23] <Yasumoto> hey guys, I'm trying to run make pdfdocs to build the documentation for the kernel, but seem to be missing some dependencies. I've tried apt-cache searching for docbook-type stuff, but haven't been able to find a solution yet, does anyone happen to know what packages are needed to build kernel docs?
[17:24] <NCommander> Yasumoto, you need docbook-utils, xmlto, and a few others. The list of build-dependencies can be found in debian/control
[17:25] <rtg> Yasumoto: try 'apt-get build-depends <PKG-NAME>"
[17:29] <rtg> Yasumoto: correction, its 'apt-get build-dep'
[17:32] <Yasumoto> rtg: thanks rtg
[17:32] <Yasumoto> here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64703/
[17:57] <bsnider> rtg, that ath9k definitely has some issues, although it seems to connect faster. couldn't use skype with it because it kept dropping the connection, dropped the msn connection etc. the one in the regular kernel is definitely better at this point.
[20:28] <BenC> rtg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284066
[21:52] <kyle___> I have two sata drives, sda and sdb. Ever since after ubuntu 7.10 ubuntu doesnt even see sdb. windows xp and other linux installs recognize it. is there a way to downgrade kernel sata drivers?
[22:15] <CarlFK> #0  0xb7f8a430 in __kernel_vsyscall () No symbol table info available.
[22:16] <CarlFK> is there a .deb to install debugging symbols?
[22:18] <CarlFK> never mind - got what I need
[22:40] <BUGabundo> hi
[22:41] <BUGabundo> Call Trace: \n [<ffffffff8024e9b4>] warn_on_slowpath+0x64/0x90 \n Pid: 7019, comm: wpa_supplicant Tainted
[22:41] <BUGabundo> means anything to anyone?
[22:46] <apw> BUGabundo: that tells you the kernel was warning about something
[22:46] <apw> the rest of the stack trace is neeed to know _what_ was reported
[22:46] <apw> also there will be a line around there with the text of teh warning
[22:47] <BUGabundo> reporting now
[22:48] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291291
[22:48] <BUGabundo> full logs there
[22:48] <BUGabundo> huuuu what a nice bug id... 291 291 ROFL
[22:57] <apw> heh yeah
[23:39] <CarlFK> I have a stackdump in my dmesg: [   13.408211] Pid: 2513, comm: modprobe Not tainted 2.6.27-7-generic #1  http://dpaste.com/87877/