| uvirtbot | New bug: #290945 in samba (main) "shares disappeared after upgrade to intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290945 | 01:56 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:05 |
| gawin | Hi there, I have a question about using fdisk and fstab in my Ubuntu Server 8.04 | 08:13 |
| gawin | every time I reboot my server the two HD's get mixed up... so /dev/sda becomes /dev/sdb and b becomes a | 08:14 |
| gawin | unfortunately the switching is quite random... | 08:15 |
| gawin | What could cause this problem? | 08:15 |
| nijaba | gawin: I do not know what could cause it, but I believe you can fix that by specifying uuid in your fstab | 08:16 |
| gawin | how can I retrieve the uuid? | 08:16 |
| nijaba | gawin: vol_id -u /dev/sdXX should work | 08:18 |
| gawin | thx, (server is rebooting now, so I'll try that in a moment) | 08:18 |
| gawin | great it seems to work just fine, thx Nijaba ;-) | 08:29 |
| nijaba | gawin: np, my pleasure | 08:29 |
| gawin | (I do have to reboot a few more times of course, but so far so good, fingers crossed) | 08:29 |
| * nijaba crossing fingers for you as well, but pretty confident uuids won't jump too much | 08:30 | |
| gawin | yeah, would be rather inconvenient if uuid start reinventing themselves :-) | 08:31 |
| Dedi | any way to forcecheck reiserfs and autofix everything on boot? (touch /forcefsck will not fix it afaik) ? | 08:34 |
| ganes | ubuntu server didnt have gdm why? | 09:01 |
| ara | hello, there is a small bug (localization stuff) in the page http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ | 09:07 |
| ara | where should I report it? | 09:07 |
| ganes | i installed ubuntu server 8.04 but it is going only to command mode .. is it correct or not | 09:15 |
| ara | reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/290847 | 09:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 290847 in ubuntu-website "Error in Swedish http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:15 |
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| nijaba | ganes: yep, no X server by design, see http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/security | 09:37 |
| ganes | nijaba,why they have not added the gdm like redhat .. this link i already gone through | 09:47 |
| ganes | nijaba, is there any specific reson.. | 09:47 |
| nijaba | ganes: that's unwise in terms of security and you still have the choice to install what interface you like | 09:48 |
| ganes | nijaba, while installing it is not asking any kind of gdm or kdm desktop.. | 09:49 |
| ogra | nijaba, you should probably make the first sentence there: "By design, Ubuntu Server Edition does not include an X server or any graphical desktop applications." | 09:49 |
| hads | Yes | 09:49 |
| nijaba | ganes: no and that's on purpose | 09:49 |
| ganes | nijaba, im not getting | 09:50 |
| ogra | might be that people dont know what an X server is :) | 09:50 |
| ganes | nijaba, server cd has that package or not | 09:50 |
| hads | As it's not installed on a server by defualt I don't imagine the packages are on the CD | 09:50 |
| ganes | nijaba, server cd has the gdm package or not .. otherwise we need to install it manually from repo.. | 09:51 |
| nijaba | hads: correct | 09:51 |
| ogra | ganes, no graphical apps at all | 09:51 |
| nijaba | ganes: right, you'll need to get it from repos | 09:51 |
| hads | OR just not install it :) | 09:51 |
| ogra | :) | 09:51 |
| ganes | nijaba, my question is redhat is giving why not from ubuntu | 09:52 |
| ganes | ogra, if gdm is there it will be easy to configure | 09:52 |
| ogra | ganes, its wasting resources | 09:52 |
| nijaba | ganes: beacause we deliberately chose not to be another RedHat? | 09:52 |
| ogra | adding more attacink points for security issues ... | 09:53 |
| Koon | ganes: because we are better than RedHat ? | 09:53 |
| ogra | *attacking | 09:53 |
| ogra | if you want a GUI driven server i'd honestly go with the desktop CD and install the server apps you want | 09:54 |
| ganes | is the ubuntu server installed any major institutes or any concern ..whats the feedback from them | 09:54 |
| ganes | Koon, i want to install this on my server | 09:54 |
| * hads has trouble deciphering | 09:55 | |
| ogra | ganes, how about that ? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/13/wikimedia_goes_ubuntu/ | 09:55 |
| Koon | ganes: we have pretty big installs - and the bigger the happier they are with us leaving out X | 09:56 |
| ogra | hads, he wants to see customer feedback | 09:56 |
| ganes | ogra, ya | 09:56 |
| maswan | on the server, you want remote (serial/serial over lan) console, not gdm | 09:57 |
| maswan | at least for any bigger install | 09:57 |
| * maswan manages a few dozen racks | 09:57 | |
| ganes | my self compiled the kernel which you are using by just putting your config file .. but it is asking lot of queries | 09:57 |
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| ganes | ogra, i just copied your config file & gave make oldconfig .. after it is asking questions | 09:58 |
| ogra | ganes, there is #ubuntu-kernel for kernel questions :) | 09:58 |
| ganes | ogra, i will be back after testing this server | 09:59 |
| nijaba | ogra: suggestion added to the security page, thanks | 10:17 |
| ogra | :) | 10:18 |
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| wo0f_ | hi guys | 13:14 |
| wo0f_ | i need to setup a nx server | 13:14 |
| wo0f_ | does anyone know of a good tutorial that actually works? | 13:15 |
| wo0f_ | (also, will, freenx be in the 8.10 repo?) | 13:15 |
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| Ergo^ | hello | 14:26 |
| Ergo^ | is it safe to upgrade the 8.04 server to 8.10 ? | 14:26 |
| slangasek | Ergo^: please read the release notes and decide for yourself | 14:27 |
| slangasek | it's "safe", but it may not be the right decision for all server users | 14:27 |
| Ergo^ | i was asking out of "something breaks" situation, im the sole "user" of the machine | 14:27 |
| Ergo^ | so i run apt-get dist-upgrade ? thats all ? | 14:28 |
| Ergo^ | nevermind | 14:29 |
| * Ergo^ starts reading docs | 14:29 | |
| slangasek | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading documents the recommended upgrade path | 14:29 |
| Ergo^ | thank you | 14:30 |
| ciapsadm | Hi | 14:30 |
| ciapsadm | How do I know that the user name of the database: | 14:31 |
| ciapsadm | Access denied for user 'ciapsadm'@'localhost' (using password: YES) | 14:31 |
| Ergo^ | updating, hope all goes well :] | 14:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #288616 in tomcat6 (main) "Tomcat 6 fails to start during install" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288616 | 15:42 |
| * nijaba loves new invalid bugs :) | 15:43 | |
| Koon | and I like old, just-invalidated things to appear as "New bug" | 15:44 |
| Koon | uvirtbot needs the 100.000km revision. | 15:44 |
| uvirtbot | Koon: Error: "needs" is not a valid command. | 15:44 |
| Koon | yeah yeah, right | 15:44 |
| Koon | you can run but you cannot hide. | 15:44 |
| nijaba | :D | 15:44 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #291161 in bind9 (main) "nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291161 | 16:52 |
| brewmaster | anyone have any recommendations for shared hosting based in the US tri-state area? the internet is so saturated with hosting companies... | 17:35 |
| ciapsadm | Hi | 17:40 |
| ciapsadm | How do I know that the user name of the database: | 17:41 |
| ShawnR | I am trying to install ubuntu server 8.10 and when trying to format a software RAID 1, it goes right to 33% and stops. I noticed that new in 8.10 are some software RAID enhancements (it installed fine when I put on debian etch a month ago) | 17:52 |
| J-_ | "Error: Configuration file missing and /var/www/wp-content directory (/var/www/wp-content) is not writable by the Web server." What should I do? Can I make it writable by the server and keep it secure at the same time so others can't write to it too? | 18:10 |
| yann2 | soren > my best guess about the bug is that the format virt install uses is very close to qcow2, but not *exactly* the same | 18:14 |
| yann2 | in other words, sometimes it will work, sometimes it wont... converting to qcow2 is a good thing to do | 18:15 |
| yann2 | I downgraded my KVM host to kvm-62 and all the tools with it, and will start putting some windows vms on prod :) | 18:15 |
| HellMind | where is the netinstall ? | 18:44 |
| HellMind | gusssssssssssss | 18:52 |
| HellMind | Where can I get the smallest installer | 18:52 |
| Wavesonics | hola. hey isn't 8.10 server suppose to be able to do software RAID? I can't find the others in the server install | 19:04 |
| Wavesonics | others = option | 19:04 |
| HellMind | Can I convert the regular ubuntu into a server one? | 19:28 |
| tonyyarusso | HellMind: sure. It's just a matter of installing server packages, and optionally, removing X and friends. | 19:28 |
| HellMind | then chaging the repertories of apt will do the trick? | 19:29 |
| tonyyarusso | You use the same repositories. | 19:30 |
| Wavesonics | If I format my system with ext4, can Ubuntu install and run from it? | 19:31 |
| Wavesonics | just point ubuntu at it during the install, not ask it to install | 19:32 |
| tonyyarusso | I don't think ext4 is supported yet, no. | 19:32 |
| tonyyarusso | You mightbe able to do it, but I don't know anyone who would recommend it or be able to tell you how. | 19:32 |
| Wavesonics | but I'll be able to upgrade form ext3 to ext4 at a later point? | 19:34 |
| Wavesonics | mkfs in 8.10 supports it *shrug* | 19:34 |
| Wavesonics | mkfs.ext4 | 19:35 |
| tonyyarusso | Perhaps it is then. Haven't really looked into it myself. | 19:35 |
| Wavesonics | well il give it a try and let u all know | 19:35 |
| Deeps | you may end up wiping your filesystem if you mkfs.ext4 on it | 19:35 |
| greenfly | last I heard ext4 was still experimental | 19:36 |
| Wavesonics | Linus promoted it from devext4 to just ext4 | 19:36 |
| Wavesonics | and Fedora has been using it for a while now | 19:36 |
| * greenfly shrugs it's your data | 19:36 | |
| Wavesonics | ya idk | 19:36 |
| Wavesonics | it's a clean drive ATM | 19:37 |
| Deeps | wikipedia suggests that ext4 is officially stable as of october 21st | 19:37 |
| greenfly | my recommendation is to stick with a more stable file system unless you have an express need for some feature in ext4 | 19:37 |
| Wavesonics | but a ext3 drive can be upgrade to ext4 with out formating it right? | 19:37 |
| greenfly | dunno, ext2->ext3 was | 19:37 |
| Deeps | A preliminary development snapshot of ext4 was included in version 2.6.19 of the Linux kernel. On Oct 11, 2008, the patches[4] that mark ext4 as stable code were merged in the Linux 2.6.28 source code repositories, marking the end of the development phase and recommending its adoption. | 19:37 |
| Wavesonics | it's for a file server, so the extends in ext4 would be nice for my large files | 19:37 |
| Wavesonics | ah cool | 19:38 |
| Wavesonics | thanks Deeps | 19:38 |
| greenfly | whether someone decided to call it stable or not I'd still be leery of something like that for important data until it makes the rounds a bit longer | 19:38 |
| greenfly | but that's just me | 19:38 |
| Wavesonics | i hear ya greenfly | 19:38 |
| greenfly | if you have lots of large files XFS might be the best choice | 19:38 |
| Deeps | and yeah, it's possible you can just mount -t ext4 on an ext3 fs | 19:38 |
| Deeps | and then have the new features available to you | 19:38 |
| tonyyarusso | Anyone know what the rationale was for choosing Bacula over Amanda? | 19:38 |
| greenfly | cooler name? | 19:39 |
| greenfly | halloween release? | 19:39 |
| Wavesonics | Deeps, just that just mount it, or does it actually modify the FS to be ext4? | 19:39 |
| Deeps | well, you can take an ext2 filesystem and mount it as ext3 to take advantage of journalling | 19:40 |
| Deeps | and thus it 'becomes' ext3 | 19:40 |
| Deeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Backward_compatibility | 19:40 |
| * Deeps shrugs | 19:40 | |
| Wavesonics | hhmmm | 19:41 |
| Wavesonics | i guess my question is, does it physicaly modify the FS so it actually *is* ext4 there after | 19:41 |
| greenfly | I thought you had to use mkfs on an ext2 partition to add journaling | 19:41 |
| Wavesonics | ok | 19:47 |
| Wavesonics | i got another question for yall :) | 19:47 |
| Wavesonics | i just followed this tutorial with the live desktop CD ( http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10 ) to set up my drive partitions for RAID 10 | 19:47 |
| Wavesonics | but the last bit of the tutorial is for Ubuntu Desktop | 19:47 |
| Wavesonics | and I want to do Ubuntu Server | 19:48 |
| Wavesonics | so how can I have the server install read my RAID10 array and install to it | 19:48 |
| Wavesonics | the minimum size for my boot partition is 31 GB! | 19:57 |
| slicslak | i don't think that some lamp related apps were installed right. if I use tasksel to deselect LAMP and then select LAMP will my /etc configs remain the same? | 20:00 |
| slicslak | nah, didn't touch them. pefrect | 20:15 |
| tonyyarusso | I'd like to have some sort of versioning to keep track of changes to files in /etc and allow for rollback. What are some of the options for accomplishing this? | 20:40 |
| ajmitch | tonyyarusso: simplest one I know of is the etckeeper package | 20:42 |
| tonyyarusso | ajmitch: hrm, seems reasonable. | 20:45 |
| tonyyarusso | ajmitch: is it possible with that to say things like "restore $file to $day&time", or do you have to look up a version number manually | 20:47 |
| tonyyarusso | ? | 20:47 |
| jimcooncat | ajmitch: is etckeeper available for hardy? | 20:47 |
| ajmitch | tonyyarusso: I have no idea :) | 20:48 |
| tonyyarusso | 'k | 20:48 |
| ajmitch | jimcooncat: looks to be in hardy universe | 20:49 |
| jimcooncat | tonyyarusso: must be a way to do that with bash or perl | 20:49 |
| jimcooncat | thanks ajmitch | 20:49 |
| jimcooncat | it looks interesting. I'm trying to find a way to push configs out to other servers -- maybe make a metapackage with a postint that writes a custom config file? | 20:50 |
| ajmitch | look at puppet | 20:51 |
| ajmitch | again, I haven't used it, but have heard it's very useful | 20:51 |
| jimcooncat | ajmitch: I've looked at it but can't grok it; I guess I'll install it and play | 20:51 |
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| lool | Hey; I wonder whether ubuntu-vm-builder --in-place should be creating any file in /tmp? With verbose I see: 2008-10-30 21:58:24,859 INFO Creating disk image: /tmp/vmbuilder6rA6Qe/disk0.img | 21:00 |
| lool | So it would seem like --in-place is ignored?! | 21:00 |
| ogra | well, the .img is in a place :) | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #291265 in nagios-plugins (universe) "Buffer overflow in check_ntp_peer - Nagios can't check time servers in Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291265 | 21:01 |
| lool | Hmm there's little difference between vmbuilder and ubuntu-vm-builder | 21:04 |
| lool | --help output are quite similar, but not identical and the contents of the wrapper as well | 21:04 |
| lool | But there's no man page for ubuntu-vm-builder | 21:04 |
| ogra | how does it pass lintian then ? | 21:12 |
| lool | ogra: It passes lintian? | 21:14 |
| ogra | no idea, i thought its in main | 21:14 |
| ogra | it should pass lintian :) | 21:14 |
| lool | In my experience, lots of stuff in main is far from passing lintian :-( | 21:15 |
| lool | ogra: Do we have an ubuntu wide lintian instance? | 21:15 |
| ogra | no | 21:16 |
| ogra | i check my packages from time to time | 21:16 |
| ogra | and i'd expect others to do that too | 21:16 |
| ogra | but indeed i might assume to much :) | 21:16 |
| lool | I run lintian on every build; I don't always fix stuff which I didn't break | 21:17 |
| tonyyarusso | My package has somehow ended up broken due to changes in its dependencies when the package itself is identical. That's a bit annoying. | 21:21 |
| ajmitch | lool: only documentation I can see on it is in the server guide & the wiki | 21:26 |
| ShawnR | i've checked the MD5 of the iso, even burned at like 12x and on 3 diff drives, the CD does not pass the CD check, what gives? | 21:36 |
| dekkong | Hello everyone | 21:44 |
| dekkong | I have a friend that wants an good linux server distribution, he wants to run a dc++ hub, teamspeak server, good firewall what would your recommend? | 21:45 |
| hads | You're in the ubuntu-server channel :) | 21:45 |
| dekkong | hads: talking to me? :) | 21:45 |
| hads | Indeed | 21:46 |
| dekkong | hads: yeah i know I just need som opinions :) | 21:46 |
| ShawnR | i think most opinions in here, would point to ubuntu server | 21:47 |
| dekkong | ShawnR: yes i'm downloading it atm | 21:47 |
| ogra | well, indeed you will get great reputation for rh enterprise server or SLES here :P | 21:47 |
| ShawnR | burning an ISO at 8x makes me wonder how we ever got through the late 90s | 21:50 |
| spiekey | hi | 21:50 |
| spiekey | could anyone please help me with this dep problem please? http://pastebin.com/m53e18cf9 | 21:50 |
| spiekey | i seem to run around in a circle | 21:50 |
| dekkong | ok .. but this is how it goes ... a friend of mine wanted a linux server so he could use it as a "firewall" and that he could host dc++ server, teamspeak server | 21:51 |
| ShawnR | i didn't know DC++ was still going | 21:51 |
| hads | All Linux distributions use iptables so the firewall part is moot | 21:51 |
| ShawnR | i ran a TS server on a 500mhz celeron running Win 2k Pro.... any of those services you ask for, pretty much will run on any box | 21:52 |
| ShawnR | so it kinda depends on what you wanna play with | 21:52 |
| ogra | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/firewall.html | 21:53 |
| spiekey | i keep geeting; W: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 22:08 |
| spiekey | any idea how to fix this? | 22:08 |
| Paulrf | Anyone know a fix for the Intel GV910GL video issue with the 8.10 upgrade? | 22:48 |
| soren | What issue might that be? | 22:49 |
| Paulrf | Video was working fine - all generic linux drivers... | 22:52 |
| Paulrf | Installed 8.10 and now video is corrupt... | 22:52 |
| andol | spiekey: Usually that's just temporay, as the mirror updates. Still, I guess you could test what happen if you use another mirror? | 22:52 |
| Paulrf | From on another channel, issue seems to be typical with intel drivers | 22:53 |
| soren | Paulrf: When you say "video is corrupt"... What do you mean, exactly? | 22:55 |
| Paulrf | Login prompt is at very top of display, but X starts. | 22:56 |
| Paulrf | After you log in, display is in 3 vertical sections, about 1/3rd each. | 22:57 |
| soren | How is this related to ubuntu server? | 22:57 |
| Paulrf | Perhaps it isn't, other than the fact that I'm running ubuntu server | 22:57 |
| Paulrf | is there a better channel? | 22:57 |
| soren | #ubuntu sounds like a good place. | 22:58 |
| soren | " For general (not server specific) support visit #ubuntu " <---- from /TOPIC | 22:58 |
| Paulrf | Okay.. I was trying to avoid them - the scroll is so fast, they didn't even see my message | 22:58 |
| Paulrf | sorry.. | 22:58 |
| Paulrf | thanks | 22:58 |
| soren | Contrary to popular belief, that doesn't magically make things on topic in other channels.. | 22:58 |
| ajmitch | beer does... | 23:01 |
| ajmitch | at least that seems to be the rule on the NZNOG mailing list :) | 23:02 |
| soren | Hrm... Yes, that might be true :) | 23:03 |
| zul | soren: you missed yesterday when someone on #ubuntu-server asked how to be unbanned from the #mandrake channels | 23:29 |
| _Desp | hi all | 23:35 |
| _Desp | I just upgrade to Ibex and I got that error: | 23:35 |
| _Desp | apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/perl.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so into server | 23:35 |
| _Desp | apache2 looking for libperl.so.5.8 and Ibex upgraded this libperl to libperl.so.5.10 | 23:36 |
| _Desp | any ideas please ? | 23:36 |
| _Desp | hrmmmmm | 23:38 |
| _Desp | is it a bug ? | 23:38 |
| _Desp | 130 users just idle here huh | 23:40 |
| andol | _Desp: Well, if I were to guess... | 23:40 |
| andol | _Desp: It's an upgrade an not a clean install? Perhaps some old, not entirely compatible, configuration which remains. Tried purging and reinstalling mod_perl? | 23:41 |
| andol | _Desp: Anyhow, I just installed mod_perl2 on my intrepid computer, and apache didn't seem to have any trouble loading it. | 23:44 |
| tonyyarusso | Has anyone used Untangle, and if so how does it compare to Ubuntu with eBox (or something else)? Someone I work with is planning to use Untangle for ease of administration, but I haven't messed with it or the other server pseudo-GUIs before. | 23:54 |
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