[01:56] New bug: #290945 in samba (main) "shares disappeared after upgrade to intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290945 === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [08:05] moin [08:13] Hi there, I have a question about using fdisk and fstab in my Ubuntu Server 8.04 [08:14] every time I reboot my server the two HD's get mixed up... so /dev/sda becomes /dev/sdb and b becomes a [08:15] unfortunately the switching is quite random... [08:15] What could cause this problem? [08:16] gawin: I do not know what could cause it, but I believe you can fix that by specifying uuid in your fstab [08:16] how can I retrieve the uuid? [08:18] gawin: vol_id -u /dev/sdXX should work [08:18] thx, (server is rebooting now, so I'll try that in a moment) [08:29] great it seems to work just fine, thx Nijaba ;-) [08:29] gawin: np, my pleasure [08:29] (I do have to reboot a few more times of course, but so far so good, fingers crossed) [08:30] * nijaba crossing fingers for you as well, but pretty confident uuids won't jump too much [08:31] yeah, would be rather inconvenient if uuid start reinventing themselves :-) [08:34] any way to forcecheck reiserfs and autofix everything on boot? (touch /forcefsck will not fix it afaik) ? [09:01] ubuntu server didnt have gdm why? [09:07] hello, there is a small bug (localization stuff) in the page http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ [09:07] where should I report it? [09:15] i installed ubuntu server 8.04 but it is going only to command mode .. is it correct or not [09:15] reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/290847 [09:15] Launchpad bug 290847 in ubuntu-website "Error in Swedish http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/" [Undecided,Confirmed] === lipsin_ is now known as lipsin [09:37] ganes: yep, no X server by design, see http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/security [09:47] nijaba,why they have not added the gdm like redhat .. this link i already gone through [09:47] nijaba, is there any specific reson.. [09:48] ganes: that's unwise in terms of security and you still have the choice to install what interface you like [09:49] nijaba, while installing it is not asking any kind of gdm or kdm desktop.. [09:49] nijaba, you should probably make the first sentence there: "By design, Ubuntu Server Edition does not include an X server or any graphical desktop applications." [09:49] Yes [09:49] ganes: no and that's on purpose [09:50] nijaba, im not getting [09:50] might be that people dont know what an X server is :) [09:50] nijaba, server cd has that package or not [09:50] As it's not installed on a server by defualt I don't imagine the packages are on the CD [09:51] nijaba, server cd has the gdm package or not .. otherwise we need to install it manually from repo.. [09:51] hads: correct [09:51] ganes, no graphical apps at all [09:51] ganes: right, you'll need to get it from repos [09:51] OR just not install it :) [09:51] :) [09:52] nijaba, my question is redhat is giving why not from ubuntu [09:52] ogra, if gdm is there it will be easy to configure [09:52] ganes, its wasting resources [09:52] ganes: beacause we deliberately chose not to be another RedHat? [09:53] adding more attacink points for security issues ... [09:53] ganes: because we are better than RedHat ? [09:53] *attacking [09:54] if you want a GUI driven server i'd honestly go with the desktop CD and install the server apps you want [09:54] is the ubuntu server installed any major institutes or any concern ..whats the feedback from them [09:54] Koon, i want to install this on my server [09:55] * hads has trouble deciphering [09:55] ganes, how about that ? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/13/wikimedia_goes_ubuntu/ [09:56] ganes: we have pretty big installs - and the bigger the happier they are with us leaving out X [09:56] hads, he wants to see customer feedback [09:56] ogra, ya [09:57] on the server, you want remote (serial/serial over lan) console, not gdm [09:57] at least for any bigger install [09:57] * maswan manages a few dozen racks [09:57] my self compiled the kernel which you are using by just putting your config file .. but it is asking lot of queries === chmac is now known as chmac_away [09:58] ogra, i just copied your config file & gave make oldconfig .. after it is asking questions [09:58] ganes, there is #ubuntu-kernel for kernel questions :) [09:59] ogra, i will be back after testing this server [10:17] ogra: suggestion added to the security page, thanks [10:18] :) === chmac_away is now known as chmac [13:14] hi guys [13:14] i need to setup a nx server [13:15] does anyone know of a good tutorial that actually works? [13:15] (also, will, freenx be in the 8.10 repo?) === scientus is now known as notscientes === scientus_ is now known as blargy === blargy is now known as zomgzomgzomgzomg === zomgzomgzomgzomg is now known as scientus [14:26] hello [14:26] is it safe to upgrade the 8.04 server to 8.10 ? [14:27] Ergo^: please read the release notes and decide for yourself [14:27] it's "safe", but it may not be the right decision for all server users [14:27] i was asking out of "something breaks" situation, im the sole "user" of the machine [14:28] so i run apt-get dist-upgrade ? thats all ? [14:29] nevermind [14:29] * Ergo^ starts reading docs [14:29] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading documents the recommended upgrade path [14:30] thank you [14:30] Hi [14:31] How do I know that the user name of the database: [14:31] Access denied for user 'ciapsadm'@'localhost' (using password: YES) [14:35] updating, hope all goes well :] === Codedrunk is now known as Codedrunk_Work [15:42] New bug: #288616 in tomcat6 (main) "Tomcat 6 fails to start during install" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288616 [15:43] * nijaba loves new invalid bugs :) [15:44] and I like old, just-invalidated things to appear as "New bug" [15:44] uvirtbot needs the 100.000km revision. [15:44] Koon: Error: "needs" is not a valid command. [15:44] yeah yeah, right [15:44] you can run but you cannot hide. [15:44] :D === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [16:52] New bug: #291161 in bind9 (main) "nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291161 [17:35] anyone have any recommendations for shared hosting based in the US tri-state area? the internet is so saturated with hosting companies... [17:40] Hi [17:41] How do I know that the user name of the database: [17:52] I am trying to install ubuntu server 8.10 and when trying to format a software RAID 1, it goes right to 33% and stops. I noticed that new in 8.10 are some software RAID enhancements (it installed fine when I put on debian etch a month ago) [18:10] "Error: Configuration file missing and /var/www/wp-content directory (/var/www/wp-content) is not writable by the Web server." What should I do? Can I make it writable by the server and keep it secure at the same time so others can't write to it too? [18:14] soren > my best guess about the bug is that the format virt install uses is very close to qcow2, but not *exactly* the same [18:15] in other words, sometimes it will work, sometimes it wont... converting to qcow2 is a good thing to do [18:15] I downgraded my KVM host to kvm-62 and all the tools with it, and will start putting some windows vms on prod :) [18:44] where is the netinstall ? [18:52] gusssssssssssss [18:52] Where can I get the smallest installer [19:04] hola. hey isn't 8.10 server suppose to be able to do software RAID? I can't find the others in the server install [19:04] others = option [19:28] Can I convert the regular ubuntu into a server one? [19:28] HellMind: sure. It's just a matter of installing server packages, and optionally, removing X and friends. [19:29] then chaging the repertories of apt will do the trick? [19:30] You use the same repositories. [19:31] If I format my system with ext4, can Ubuntu install and run from it? [19:32] just point ubuntu at it during the install, not ask it to install [19:32] I don't think ext4 is supported yet, no. [19:32] You mightbe able to do it, but I don't know anyone who would recommend it or be able to tell you how. [19:34] but I'll be able to upgrade form ext3 to ext4 at a later point? [19:34] mkfs in 8.10 supports it *shrug* [19:35] mkfs.ext4 [19:35] Perhaps it is then. Haven't really looked into it myself. [19:35] well il give it a try and let u all know [19:35] you may end up wiping your filesystem if you mkfs.ext4 on it [19:36] last I heard ext4 was still experimental [19:36] Linus promoted it from devext4 to just ext4 [19:36] and Fedora has been using it for a while now [19:36] * greenfly shrugs it's your data [19:36] ya idk [19:37] it's a clean drive ATM [19:37] wikipedia suggests that ext4 is officially stable as of october 21st [19:37] my recommendation is to stick with a more stable file system unless you have an express need for some feature in ext4 [19:37] but a ext3 drive can be upgrade to ext4 with out formating it right? [19:37] dunno, ext2->ext3 was [19:37] A preliminary development snapshot of ext4 was included in version 2.6.19 of the Linux kernel. On Oct 11, 2008, the patches[4] that mark ext4 as stable code were merged in the Linux 2.6.28 source code repositories, marking the end of the development phase and recommending its adoption. [19:37] it's for a file server, so the extends in ext4 would be nice for my large files [19:38] ah cool [19:38] thanks Deeps [19:38] whether someone decided to call it stable or not I'd still be leery of something like that for important data until it makes the rounds a bit longer [19:38] but that's just me [19:38] i hear ya greenfly [19:38] if you have lots of large files XFS might be the best choice [19:38] and yeah, it's possible you can just mount -t ext4 on an ext3 fs [19:38] and then have the new features available to you [19:38] Anyone know what the rationale was for choosing Bacula over Amanda? [19:39] cooler name? [19:39] halloween release? [19:39] Deeps, just that just mount it, or does it actually modify the FS to be ext4? [19:40] well, you can take an ext2 filesystem and mount it as ext3 to take advantage of journalling [19:40] and thus it 'becomes' ext3 [19:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Backward_compatibility [19:40] * Deeps shrugs [19:41] hhmmm [19:41] i guess my question is, does it physicaly modify the FS so it actually *is* ext4 there after [19:41] I thought you had to use mkfs on an ext2 partition to add journaling [19:47] ok [19:47] i got another question for yall :) [19:47] i just followed this tutorial with the live desktop CD ( http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10 ) to set up my drive partitions for RAID 10 [19:47] but the last bit of the tutorial is for Ubuntu Desktop [19:48] and I want to do Ubuntu Server [19:48] so how can I have the server install read my RAID10 array and install to it [19:57] the minimum size for my boot partition is 31 GB! [20:00] i don't think that some lamp related apps were installed right. if I use tasksel to deselect LAMP and then select LAMP will my /etc configs remain the same? [20:15] nah, didn't touch them. pefrect [20:40] I'd like to have some sort of versioning to keep track of changes to files in /etc and allow for rollback. What are some of the options for accomplishing this? [20:42] tonyyarusso: simplest one I know of is the etckeeper package [20:45] ajmitch: hrm, seems reasonable. [20:47] ajmitch: is it possible with that to say things like "restore $file to $day&time", or do you have to look up a version number manually [20:47] ? [20:47] ajmitch: is etckeeper available for hardy? [20:48] tonyyarusso: I have no idea :) [20:48] 'k [20:49] jimcooncat: looks to be in hardy universe [20:49] tonyyarusso: must be a way to do that with bash or perl [20:49] thanks ajmitch [20:50] it looks interesting. I'm trying to find a way to push configs out to other servers -- maybe make a metapackage with a postint that writes a custom config file? [20:51] look at puppet [20:51] again, I haven't used it, but have heard it's very useful [20:51] ajmitch: I've looked at it but can't grok it; I guess I'll install it and play === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [21:00] Hey; I wonder whether ubuntu-vm-builder --in-place should be creating any file in /tmp? With verbose I see: 2008-10-30 21:58:24,859 INFO Creating disk image: /tmp/vmbuilder6rA6Qe/disk0.img [21:00] So it would seem like --in-place is ignored?! [21:01] well, the .img is in a place :) [21:01] New bug: #291265 in nagios-plugins (universe) "Buffer overflow in check_ntp_peer - Nagios can't check time servers in Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291265 [21:04] Hmm there's little difference between vmbuilder and ubuntu-vm-builder [21:04] --help output are quite similar, but not identical and the contents of the wrapper as well [21:04] But there's no man page for ubuntu-vm-builder [21:12] how does it pass lintian then ? [21:14] ogra: It passes lintian? [21:14] no idea, i thought its in main [21:14] it should pass lintian :) [21:15] In my experience, lots of stuff in main is far from passing lintian :-( [21:15] ogra: Do we have an ubuntu wide lintian instance? [21:16] no [21:16] i check my packages from time to time [21:16] and i'd expect others to do that too [21:16] but indeed i might assume to much :) [21:17] I run lintian on every build; I don't always fix stuff which I didn't break [21:21] My package has somehow ended up broken due to changes in its dependencies when the package itself is identical. That's a bit annoying. [21:26] lool: only documentation I can see on it is in the server guide & the wiki [21:36] i've checked the MD5 of the iso, even burned at like 12x and on 3 diff drives, the CD does not pass the CD check, what gives? [21:44] Hello everyone [21:45] I have a friend that wants an good linux server distribution, he wants to run a dc++ hub, teamspeak server, good firewall what would your recommend? [21:45] You're in the ubuntu-server channel :) [21:45] hads: talking to me? :) [21:46] Indeed [21:46] hads: yeah i know I just need som opinions :) [21:47] i think most opinions in here, would point to ubuntu server [21:47] ShawnR: yes i'm downloading it atm [21:47] well, indeed you will get great reputation for rh enterprise server or SLES here :P [21:50] burning an ISO at 8x makes me wonder how we ever got through the late 90s [21:50] hi [21:50] could anyone please help me with this dep problem please? http://pastebin.com/m53e18cf9 [21:50] i seem to run around in a circle [21:51] ok .. but this is how it goes ... a friend of mine wanted a linux server so he could use it as a "firewall" and that he could host dc++ server, teamspeak server [21:51] i didn't know DC++ was still going [21:51] All Linux distributions use iptables so the firewall part is moot [21:52] i ran a TS server on a 500mhz celeron running Win 2k Pro.... any of those services you ask for, pretty much will run on any box [21:52] so it kinda depends on what you wanna play with [21:53] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/firewall.html [22:08] i keep geeting; W: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [22:08] any idea how to fix this? [22:48] Anyone know a fix for the Intel GV910GL video issue with the 8.10 upgrade? [22:49] What issue might that be? [22:52] Video was working fine - all generic linux drivers... [22:52] Installed 8.10 and now video is corrupt... [22:52] spiekey: Usually that's just temporay, as the mirror updates. Still, I guess you could test what happen if you use another mirror? [22:53] From on another channel, issue seems to be typical with intel drivers [22:55] Paulrf: When you say "video is corrupt"... What do you mean, exactly? [22:56] Login prompt is at very top of display, but X starts. [22:57] After you log in, display is in 3 vertical sections, about 1/3rd each. [22:57] How is this related to ubuntu server? [22:57] Perhaps it isn't, other than the fact that I'm running ubuntu server [22:57] is there a better channel? [22:58] #ubuntu sounds like a good place. [22:58] " For general (not server specific) support visit #ubuntu " <---- from /TOPIC [22:58] Okay.. I was trying to avoid them - the scroll is so fast, they didn't even see my message [22:58] sorry.. [22:58] thanks [22:58] Contrary to popular belief, that doesn't magically make things on topic in other channels.. [23:01] beer does... [23:02] at least that seems to be the rule on the NZNOG mailing list :) [23:03] Hrm... Yes, that might be true :) [23:29] soren: you missed yesterday when someone on #ubuntu-server asked how to be unbanned from the #mandrake channels [23:35] <_Desp> hi all [23:35] <_Desp> I just upgrade to Ibex and I got that error: [23:35] <_Desp> apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/perl.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so into server [23:36] <_Desp> apache2 looking for libperl.so.5.8 and Ibex upgraded this libperl to libperl.so.5.10 [23:36] <_Desp> any ideas please ? [23:38] <_Desp> hrmmmmm [23:38] <_Desp> is it a bug ? [23:40] <_Desp> 130 users just idle here huh [23:40] _Desp: Well, if I were to guess... [23:41] _Desp: It's an upgrade an not a clean install? Perhaps some old, not entirely compatible, configuration which remains. Tried purging and reinstalling mod_perl? [23:44] _Desp: Anyhow, I just installed mod_perl2 on my intrepid computer, and apache didn't seem to have any trouble loading it. [23:54] Has anyone used Untangle, and if so how does it compare to Ubuntu with eBox (or something else)? Someone I work with is planning to use Untangle for ease of administration, but I haven't messed with it or the other server pseudo-GUIs before.