[00:00] <Circs> Jake_: What specifically is giving you trouble, just making it run?
[00:00] <Sylphid> pr0fane, are you keeping all of ubuntu on one partition?
[00:00] <pipegeek> interesting...
[00:00] <pr0fane> right now i have swap and root partition
[00:00] <ScreamingMonkies> soundless: http://www.ubuntux.org/shockwave-player-ubuntu-linux you will also need windows firefox and probably windows flash
[00:00] <pipegeek> I can't get the intrepid livecd to boot in kvm
[00:01] <pr0fane> Now im going to make home, root and swap
[00:01] <pr0fane> home partition should be as big as I want?
[00:01] <seivan> CCould someone with experience please help me install Ubuntu on a mac (mac mini to be precise), I get the flashing ? after install and I got / as ext3, and swap, removed efi bootloader and use grub instead. C'mon there gotta be someone here who got linux running on a mac
[00:01] <Sylphid> pr0fane, what are you wanting to do with your linux install
[00:01] <Sylphid> pr0fane, home is where the bulk of your personal data should be stored so ideally should be the biggest
[00:02] <soundless> ScreamingMonkies:  Would windows firefox and windows flash be in synaptic manager also? Thanks for link.
[00:02] <pr0fane> ok
[00:02] <pr0fane> and what is the minimal size for root?
[00:02] <Jake_> i dont knwo how to install it in terminal i cant i find anything on the internet
[00:02] <Circs> Jake_: If you are just trying to make it work you're going to need a few things first. I.E. Ruby packages
[00:02] <gian__> hi....help
[00:02] <woli> how do I make a folder to need a password to be opened?
[00:02] <lusio> why my etc/rc.local don't run after boot?
[00:02] <Sylphid> pr0fane, depends on the software you install
[00:02] <Jake_> i have no clue how to install it srry i am new to linux
[00:02] <pr0fane> ubuntu 8.10
[00:02] <Circs> Jake_: No worries
[00:02] <ScreamingMonkies> soundless: No, you will need to get them from their normal locations and install like under windows
[00:02] <Sylphid> pr0fane, with or without gui
[00:02] <Jake_> wow thnx
[00:03] <gian__> i'm new in linux......someone can help me'?
[00:03] <Purity> sure
[00:03] <pr0fane> gui is all the graphical stuff?
[00:03] <pr0fane> :D
[00:03] <rww> lusio: Did you put the commands you want to run before the exit 0 line? Did you set the execute bit like it said?
[00:03] <Sylphid> pr0fane, yes
[00:03] <rww> !ask | gian__
[00:03] <victamower> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, this morning my control key had stopped working in X11/GNOME - it works in another VT
[00:03] <helppme> gui = graphical user interface
[00:03] <pr0fane> yes, with gui
[00:03] <victamower> how do I reconfigure or troubleshoot this problem??
[00:03] <eitreach> What is the channel for the release tomorrow?
[00:03] <ScreamingMonkies> victamower: try checking the keyboard settings in gnome
[00:04] <lusio> rww: chmod 755, owner root, there is exit 0 at the end
[00:04] <rww> eitreach: #ubuntu-release-party for comments or #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid problems
[00:04] <victamower> ScreamingMonkies: I've tried changing my keyboard type and changing it back
[00:04] <bloopletech> Is there a way to install versions of PHP other than the latest in the package system? i need to install php 5.1.6 to support an older app, but I'd like to avoud compiling PHP from source if at all possible
[00:04] <victamower> ScreamingMonkies: but no dice
[00:04] <Sylphid> pr0fane, 5G is the minimum i would recommend for a GUI install with a separate home partition you could go smaller if you know exactly what you are installing
[00:04] <gian__> i installed nmap and i can laucnh it with terminal and i can utilise it with terminal...but....where is the icon if i want the graphical interface?
[00:04] <Dorobo18jp> Good morning all !!!  can some one snd me a link to the ubuntu ebook
[00:04] <eitreach> rww: Thanks.
[00:04] <victamower> okay, I turned off Desktop Effects and my Control key now works
[00:04] <soundless> ScreamingMonkies:  I also needed adobe acrobat reader so I downloaded it.  After 20 min. of downloading,message said it couldn't open.  I have no idea where that file is now, there is no file called downloads that I can find.  Will I run into same problem with windows firefox?
[00:04] <victamower> *facepalm*
[00:05] <pr0fane> so 5GB root partition + home partition?
[00:05] <gian__> i installed nmap and i can laucnh it with terminal and i can utilise it with terminal...but....where is the icon if i want the graphical interface?
[00:05] <helppme> why would my giFTcurs download every song as corrupted ?
[00:05] <rww> gian__: install zenmap (sudo apt-get install zenmap) from the universe repository
[00:05] <Sylphid> pr0fane, correct .... although larger allows for you to play with more at once
[00:05] <victamower> I turned Desktop Effects back on and my Control key is broken again
[00:05] <lusio> rww: chmod 755, owner root, there is exit 0 at the end
[00:05] <pr0fane> ok , thx
[00:05] <rww> gian__: that's a GUI frontend to nmap. The nmap package itself doesn't include a GUI, if i remember correctly
[00:06] <Sylphid> pr0fane, but 5G should be plenty to start with.... you can always enlarge it later
[00:06] <Purity> gain term is in apps>accesorys
[00:06] <ScreamingMonkies> soundless: There should be a repositry for acroread, if you just need to read normal pdfs the default software should work fine
[00:06] <redrebel> is there a command to peek at the mail queue??
[00:06] <redrebel> i'm using sendmail
[00:06] <Sylphid> pr0fane, using gparted
[00:06] <Purity> then just type nmap
[00:06] <bloopletech> redrebel: mailq?
[00:06] <pr0fane> what means gparted?
[00:06] <victamower> I turned off Desktop Effects, removed .compiz, turned them back on and my control is _still_ broken
[00:06] <gian__> ok ok..but...every time i install something i can launch it in terminal but i never found the icon.. sometimes in APPLICATIONS there is...but..sometimes...where are icon (as 666windows )?
[00:06] <victamower> what gives
[00:07] <gian__> ok ok..but...every time i install something i can launch it in terminal but i never found the icon.. sometimes in APPLICATIONS there is...but..sometimes...where are icon (as 666windows )?
[00:07] <bloopletech> sudo apt-get install php5=5.1.6 fails as version not found :(
[00:07] <victamower> why is Desktop Effects breaking my Control key??
[00:07] <soundless> ScreamingMonkies: True, I have been able to read PDF's with default software.
[00:07] <pingviller25> !lamp
[00:07] <redrebel> mailq works
[00:07] <Purity> they dont show up unless u make a shortcut
[00:07] <Sylphid> pr0fane, gparted will let you edit the size of the partitions without destroying data (though you should always back up important data first)
[00:07] <Purity> or launcher
[00:07] <redrebel> what about a command to see what emails have been sent and received?
[00:07] <gian__> ok ok..but...every time i install something i can launch it in terminal but i never found the icon.. sometimes in APPLICATIONS there is...but..sometimes...where are icon (as 666windows )?
[00:08] <pr0fane> ok, thanks for the advice
[00:08] <rww> gian__: most packages with GUI frontends will put an icon in the Gnome/KDE main menu. Is there another specific package whose GUI you're having trouble finding?
[00:08] <Sylphid> redrebel, look in /var/log/mail.log
[00:08] <rww> !repeat | gian__
[00:08] <Purity> make your own right click on the app then goto create launcher
[00:08] <Bumphead> gian__:  usr/share/pixmaps
[00:09] <bloopletech> redrebel: it depends a bit; outgoing mails will usualy appear in mailq, for incoming messages you will possibly need to find the directory holding incoming mail and then run the mail command pointing to that directory (not sure abot that()
[00:09] <bkovacs> What time will Ubuntu 8.10 be available
[00:09] <bpgoldsb> I'm trying to run a setup of Ubuntu Server 8.10.  For some reason, when I enable ip_forwarding and setup the appropriate IPTables rules, packets still don't get nat'd.  I'm doing the same thing I do on 10+ other boxes.  Anyone have any ideas?  Maybe new software installed by default?
[00:09] <helppme> is encrypting my filesystem a hard process and is there any risk that it will damage my files?
[00:09] <scribe> has anyone used VMware on Hardy?
[00:09] <redrebel> i can look at the maillog
[00:09] <ScreamingMonkies> soundless: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu if you do want the official acrobat reader its in there
[00:09] <victamower> why is Desktop Effects breaking my Control key?
[00:09] <gian__> ty
[00:09] <redrebel> but i thought it would be nice to have programs that will generate a summary
[00:09] <ScreamingMonkies> personally I prefer the one that ships with Ubuntu
[00:09] <Purity> ty i didnt know that :D
[00:10] <Dwedit> How do I force the max resolution to be 1024x768?
[00:10] <bloopletech> redrebel: it's quite possible that they exist, I just don't know of them
[00:10] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, did you set up nat?
[00:10] <Bumphead> are the launchpad repos valuable for up-to-date apps?
[00:10] <Dorobo18jp> Anyone have the download link for the ubuntu ebook linux guide?
[00:10] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Yes, tried both -j MASQUERADE and using SNAT
[00:11] <Ange1> How do I make my internal Ip static?
[00:11] <bpgoldsb> eth0 is the external interface, eth1 is the internal.  I see packets come in on eth1, but never leave eth0.
[00:11] <victamower> why is Desktop Effects breaking my Control key?
[00:12] <scientus> i need a good command line partitioner
[00:12] <Ximal> Hello , I'm having trouble again accessing my MySql server through my login and password or even using root as the login name... How can I reset my mysql settings or do a reinstall so I can be sure of the password ?
[00:13] <ScreamingMonkies> scientus: cfdisk (text interface) or fdisk (commandline)
[00:13] <bloopletech> are only the latest versions of packages available in the main repos? Do I have to find 3rd party pacakges for older versions?
[00:13] <BlooBay1> ximal:  your system PW or your SQL login?
[00:13] <scientus> cfdisk couldnt really understand my dick
[00:13] <scientus> and i dont like fdisk
[00:13] <ryan___> I installed gftp via tar, but know where the heck is the program?
[00:13] <bloopletech> Ximal: sudo apt-get remove mysql ?
[00:13] <Ximal> the ... hmm
[00:13] <scientus> how can i resize a ext3 with fdisk?
[00:13] <Ximal> i'll try it i guess and see if that works bloop
[00:13] <bloopletech> Then sudo apt-get install mysql ?
[00:14] <bloopletech> Ximal: note that that will remove mysql
[00:14] <helppme> how dangerous is encrypting my file-systems?
[00:14] <scientus> qquit
[00:14] <djhash> ryan___: just type anywhere in terminal gftp..
[00:14] <phpstar> hellow everyone
[00:14] <Ximal> that doesn't work friend
[00:14] <ryan___> djhash: I did that and it did not work
[00:15] <djhash> did it tell you command not found?
[00:15] <bloopletech> Ximal: hmm. 1 sec
[00:15] <gian__> i don't fnd icons... people doesn't help..it's not a community... mister Linus T. shouldn't be happy for that.. bye .
[00:15] <Ximal> yeah even as sudo
[00:15] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, what does iptables -t nat -L show
[00:15] <djhash> ryan___: did it tell you command not found?
[00:15] <ScreamingMonkies> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[00:16] <bloopletech> Ximal: try sudo apt-get remove mysql-client mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0
[00:16] <bloopletech> assuming you're running mysql 5
[00:16] <ryan___> djhash: yes
[00:16] <djhash> mysql5.0-server
[00:16] <Optimus55> wooo
[00:16] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, add a verbose in there if you would...... iptables -t nat -L -v
[00:16] <djhash> ryan___: why dont u just do "apt-get install gftp" ?
[00:17] <musictoto> Ange1: go to System > Administration > Network
[00:17] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb,  should have something like .......   4476K  420M MASQUERADE  all  --  any    eth0    anywhere             anywhere
[00:17] <phpstar> how can i create virtual users for SSH
[00:17] <musictoto> Ange1: choose eth0 > Properties > Use Static IP
[00:18] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I can't copy / paste from the box atm, but yes, it's like that.
[00:18] <chsty_g4> by any chance, does anyone know when 8.10 will get fixed nvidia drivers?  or is this an ongoing issue?
[00:18] <Slart> phpstar: I'm not sure if you can.. you can create regular users though... and configure them so they can't logon locally
[00:18] <ASrock> Hey, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and the themes i normally use dont work right with it...on gnomelook.org what would be the proper section to look at for themes for ubuntu 8.10?
[00:18] <jrib> chsty_g4: #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid
[00:18] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, any drop rules in your firewall?
[00:18] <chsty_g4> thanks, jrib
[00:18] <phpstar> i m already having local users
[00:18] <ryan___> djhash: I am an idiot and must have mistyped the apt-get on my initial try.  That worked perfect.
[00:18] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: No rules in filter/mangle, only the 1 rule in nat
[00:18] <musictoto> Ange1: type your subnet mask (255.255.255.0), desired ip, and gateway ip
[00:19] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Default policy is accept
[00:19] <Ximal> sudo apt-get remove mysql-client mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 ; worked
[00:19] <djhash> ryan___: i was wondering earlier why you needed to compile gftp..  anyways.. you'll find it now under Applications -> Internet
[00:20] <ether_c> isitoutyet?
[00:20] <bloopletech> Ximal: then try running the same command, but with install instead of remove
[00:20] <Ximal> i went through synaptic manager to reinstall bloop..
[00:20] <bloopletech> oh, ok
[00:20] <bloopletech> that's fine
[00:20] <pingviller25> seems I'm blind sometimes, is there a support chat channel for the Eclipse programming environment on this irc server? (or any other for that reason)
[00:21] <SilentK> I need help getting my wireless card to work in ubuntu 8.04.1
[00:21] <SilentK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[00:21] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward returns 1 correct?
[00:21] <SilentK>  BCM4318 (Rev 02) 	  ? 	  no (ndiswrapper) 	  No 	  No 	  No 	  Works on and off with both Ndiswrapper and Fwcutter methods. The majority of the difficulty is just getting the connection. Ndiswrapper method has been working the best.
[00:21] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Yes.
[00:21] <J_Man> SilentK - I've been having pretty good luck with the b43 driver
[00:21] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I noticed some new rules regarding rp_filter, but I disabled them to test.
[00:22] <J_Man> SilentK - just hit System->Administration->Hardware drivers
[00:22] <Dorobo18jp> is there a link to the ubuntu guide or a linux e book i can download for referrence so i dont bother to many people with questions in here :)
[00:22] <J_Man> and have it enable the broadcom driver - it'll pull in the firmware for you, and it should "just work"
[00:22] <bloopletech> Dorobo18jp: the man pages and wiki.ubuntu.com?
[00:22] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, are your internal ip's in the same subnet as eth1?
[00:22] <SilentK> broadcom b43 wirless driver..
[00:22] <Slart> Dorobo18jp: the ubuntu forums are a good source of info
[00:22] <J_Man> SilentK - yep, that's the one
[00:23] <bloopletech> Dorobo18jp: or http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ubuntu+ebook&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:23] <J_Man> I use that on my own laptop with the 4318 chipset
[00:23] <SilentK> But its not showing any networks..
[00:23] <Dorobo18jp> thanks all
[00:23] <Wicked> when will the new release drop? will it drop at midnight(around 4 hours)
[00:23] <SilentK> Up on the network thing.. No wifis
[00:23] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Yes, and machines can ping eachother
[00:23] <J_Man> hmmm, mine always worked well
[00:23] <J_Man> on my 4318 (gateway laptop)
[00:23] <sidney> hello guys i just reinstalled 7.10 and have no sound
[00:23] <Ta1> Can I use initrd.gz of gusty to install hardy?
[00:23] <J_Man> on your wireless router, are you limiting to wireless-g only?
[00:24] <SilentK> ?
[00:24] <SilentK> I dont know
[00:24] <J_Man> the b43 driver will only operate at 802.11b speeds, so if you lock your wireless router down to G-only, it won't see it
[00:24] <cob> hey guys, having trouble with the ati xorg driver in 8.10, can't get any acceleration it seems...every boot it asks if I want to use low graphics mode or reconfigure/check logs/etc
[00:24] <cob> also having to restart networking after every resume from suspend
[00:25] <SilentK> mode b and g
[00:25] <SilentK> channel auto
[00:25] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, sounds like it should be working
[00:25] <djhash> !ubuntu+1  | cob
[00:25] <igors_> anybody has an older version of skype?
[00:25] <cob> I know what intrepid ibex is
[00:25] <Ximal> is there a way to force the change of my password for the MySql server I'm running ?
[00:25] <FlickedMagpie> hello everybody :P
[00:25] <cob> I upgraded from hardy...
[00:26] <djhash> cob: then ask your question there.. not here
[00:26] <FlickedMagpie> i will upgrade tomorrow
[00:26] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I 100% agree.  Like I said, I've set this up 50+ times in the past on Ubuntu/Redhat/Debian/etc.  It seems like something else has changed in Intrepid that is causing the issues.
[00:26] <musictoto> cob: questions or issues should be discussed at #ubuntu+1
[00:26] <Ta1> When can I download the new ubuntu?
[00:26] <cob> nm I see the other channel there now
[00:26] <djhash> cob: regardless of upgrade or fresh install  its still intrepid ibex..
[00:26] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Both machines are basically clean Intrepid installs with 1-2 extra packages installed (Tftp, dhcp-server)
[00:27] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I'm doing it all under VMWare, so I'm setting up another VM with Hardy to make sure it doesn't happen in a basic install of Hardy as well.
[00:27] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, eth0 and eth1 are both up correct?
[00:28] <jennifer_> hi, i'm using gdb under emacs and i want to highlight where i am during a step by step debugging, how i can o this??
[00:28] <cob> djhash: I know.
[00:28] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Yes.  eth0 is 192.168.128.111/24, eth1 is 10.10.128.1/24.  The machine can ping both nets fine.
[00:28] <BlueLaguna> How do I start an additional X server?
[00:28] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Also, the client (10.10.128.6) is not getting ICMP 'no route to destination' messages
[00:29] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: It's like the router (10.10.128.1) is filtering the packets before it gets to iptables.
[00:29] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb,  what shows up on the client in route -n
[00:29] <bpgoldsb> 10.10.128.0/24 via eth0, 0.0.0.0 via 10.10.128.1
[00:29] <SilentK> so can anyone help me with my wifi?
[00:29] <bloopletech> What's the best way to install dapper packages in hardy?
[00:30] <bpgoldsb> The packets definately GET to the router's interface, they may not get to the kernel
[00:30] <rambo298> i am using joomla 1.0; anyone know if i install the latest full release 1.5.7 will it retain my 1.0 installation configurations?
[00:30] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: The packets definately GET to the router's interface, they may not get to the kernel.  I can see them arrive on eth1 via tcpdump.
[00:30] <XshoppyX> Is it possible to have apt-get use an ssh tunnel
[00:30] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I am trying to install ffmpeg but it says it needs libavdevice52 but it cannot be installed and if I try to install it it asks for libdc1394-22 and when I search in synaptic, there is only libdc1394-13 out there! Am I missing a repository or there is some other explanations? Thanks
[00:31] <XshoppyX> Dependencies should be resolved if you use synaptic
[00:31] <ASrock> is there any way to edit the appearance of my workspace switcher?
[00:31] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, can you ping the external ip on your router from the client and if not are the icmp packets at least making it to the router
[00:31] <K_Dallas> XshoppyX, but it is synaptic which says it cannot install those libraries
[00:31] <phpstar> no one has any idea about creating virtual users in SSH server ??
[00:32] <rambo298> K_Dallas: select all the sources for repos in synaptic and try again
[00:32] <XshoppyX> oh well then try apt-get
[00:32] <madmanjj> #helgeland
[00:32] <XshoppyX> and make sure your sources are correct
[00:32] <K_Dallas> rambo298, thanks. will do it right away
[00:32] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: No, I cannot ping the external IP.  Yes, the packets are arriving on the internal interface.
[00:32] <rambo298> any joomla gurus here?
[00:32] <bloopletech> rambo298: why not try a joomla specific irc channel?
[00:33] <stove_pipe> is there an intrepid irc release party
[00:33] <stove_pipe> ?
[00:33] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, have you restarted networking after turning on ip forwarding?
[00:33] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Rebooted multiple times, yes
[00:33] <PriceChild> stove_pipe: /topic
[00:33] <K_Dallas> stove_pipe, i think it is ubuntu+1
[00:33] <bloopletech> stove_pipe: #ubuntu-release-party
[00:33] <PriceChild> K_Dallas: /topic
[00:34] <K_Dallas> PriceChild, what should I look for in the topic?
[00:34] <bloopletech> K_Dallas: Intrepid support in #ubuntu+1 - Discussion in #ubuntu-release-party - It's out when it's out, and now it's not
[00:34] <K_Dallas> well that is what i said!
[00:34] <rambo298> bloopletech: ok ty
[00:35] <PriceChild> K_Dallas: the end ;)
[00:35] <K_Dallas> you guys are sometimes too encrypted ;)
[00:36] <luxtux> does anyone has an idea about the release time of the intrepid final release?
[00:36] <afallenhope> hey anyone know a linux based Shoutcast streaming CLIENT not the server.
[00:36] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, looking... at a loss atm
[00:36] <afallenhope> I've tried icecast and darkice
[00:37] <Mikeal^> afallenhope: xmms use to work
[00:37] <Mikeal^> oh you mean casting...
[00:37] <afallenhope> yeah
[00:37] <afallenhope> as in I want to stream my music TO a server
[00:37] <angrylogic> /win/win 2
[00:38] <sidney> can i upgrade directly to 8.10 without building a disk
[00:38] <kaitwospirit> yeah, you can
[00:38] <kaitwospirit> you can do so right now if you want
[00:39] <afallenhope> I get: DarkIce: LameLibEncoder.cpp:75: lame lib opening underlying sink error [0]
[00:39] <afallenhope> when I run it.
[00:39] <igors_> mey skype breaks my internet connection, any tip? or anyone has an older version of skype?
[00:39] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, you said your router is running dhcpd correct?
[00:40] <luxtux> they don't develop a lot on skype for linux right?
[00:40] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Actually no, the internal machine 10.10.128.6 is running dhcp
[00:40] <sidney> kaitwospirit how do i do it
[00:40] <redrebel> using cron, how do i execute something every say 5 hours?
[00:41] <jrib> redrebel: see 'man 5 crontab'.  You can do */5 for the hour
[00:41] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I'm wondering if it's some kind of vmware bug.  I set up the same router with Debian Etch just now and the same problem happens.
[00:42] <kaitwospirit> sidney: press alt-F2 then type "update-manager -d" (without the quotation marks) into what comes up
[00:42] <redrebel> * */5 * * * /home/redrebel/script.pl
[00:42] <redrebel> like this?
[00:42] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, perhaps ... is the client on the same physical box as the router?
[00:42] <jrib> redrebel: that would run it every minute of every 5th hour
[00:43] <redrebel> wtf
[00:43] <marcelo> instalar programas via terminal
[00:43] <redrebel> ah
[00:43] <redrebel> 0 */5 * * * /a
[00:43] <jrib> redrebel: aye
[00:43] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: The router has eth0 connecting to the host, and eth1 on a private net.  the client has eth0 on the private net.  Both machines are virtual machines.
[00:43] <redrebel> crontab is confusing
[00:43] <lucax> how do i reinstall compiz??
[00:44] <sidney> wonder why didnt it install this morning when i updated
[00:44] <dr_willis> lucax,  why do you want to? why did you uninstall it?  fire up package mnager and  search/install.
[00:44] <sidney> ok i will try it
[00:44] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I have this same setup working on a Ubuntu Host / Debian clients / vmware server 1.  This setup is a windows host / ubuntu clients / vmware server 2
[00:44] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, are the macs of eth0 on the 2 virtual machines different from each other?
[00:44] <easotokr> hi everyone
[00:45] <Stevenx> How do I connect to another network with xchat?
[00:45] <scientus> how do i make my computer gmt?
[00:45] <redrebel> 0 */5 * * * /home/redrebel/script.pl    <-- this will run every 5 hours, right?
[00:45] <easotokr> some space for newbie questions?
[00:45] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: yes *:28 and *:7f respectively
[00:45] <kaitwospirit> technically the new version isn't out until tomorrow, sidney
[00:45] <JakeMon> what's the standard smtp service to use with ubuntu?
[00:45] <kaitwospirit> if you just wait a bit it'll update without you having to do the command
[00:45] <dekkong> jihaa ubuntu 8.10 is here to stay :P
[00:46] <sidney> ok because it says upgrade to 7.10 is available
[00:46] <redrebel> what does this do?   00 0 * * * script.py
[00:46] <leachim6> h
[00:46] <leachim6> hi
[00:46] <dr_willis> !cron | redrebel
[00:46] <easotokr> someone had problems missing some icons in desktop and applications??????
[00:46] <easotokr> hi leachim6
[00:47] <angrylogic> redrebel: that will attempt to run script.py at midnight
[00:47] <dekkong> easotokr: after upgrading?
[00:47] <redrebel> thanx
[00:47] <easotokr> after install some packages for web admin
[00:48] <bloopletech> I'm trying to get old PHP running, so I added the dapper apt sources to my sources.list, and then ran sudo apt-get install php5=5.1.2-1ubuntu3.12 (which is the version listed at packages.ubuntu.com) but it fails saying version not found
[00:48] <dekkong> anyone here what has updated to 8.10?
[00:48] <Blaidd> Question.  Where can I find info on how to compile the mceusb2 module from source.  I've tried to use make, but it won't finish and I don't know how to use dkms
[00:48] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: I'm giving up for the night, thanks for the help though
[00:48] <dr_willis> easotokr,  where/how did you install web admin? its not in the repos any more.
[00:48] <scientus> why does ubuntu suck and break my internet with a bad driver detection
[00:48] <easotokr> I donwloaded tools
[00:49] <scientus> not only does my card not work but even wheni connect from another my browser completely does not work
[00:49] <dr_willis> easotokr,  webmin should of not affexcted the users desktop/icons/settings at all...
[00:49] <gamesiano> i have upgraded to intrepid and now when i click in any option in sites menus it opens Rithmbox!!!!
[00:49] <gamesiano> why?
[00:49] <easotokr> well more specifically, joomla, mysql, postgresql, php, python
[00:49] <bloopletech> gamesiano: #ubuntu+1
[00:49] <bloopletech> am I using the wrong version string?
[00:50] <angrylogic> bloopletech: You might need to specify the release you want to apt-get from using the -t flag to apt-get
[00:50] <gamesiano> what? bloopletech
[00:50]  * EDbuntu has been a 24hour long ubuntu user and im loving it
[00:50] <EDbuntu> cant wait til tomorrows release lol
[00:50] <angrylogic> bloopletech: something like apt-get -t dapper install your_package_from_dapper
[00:50] <EDbuntu> whats the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[00:50] <gamesiano> i dont understand
[00:50] <bloopletech> gamesiano: sorry, 2 different topics. Intrepid questions should go to #ubuntu+`
[00:50] <bloopletech> * #ubuntu+1
[00:50] <dr_willis> EDbuntu,  depends on what you like.
[00:50] <bloopletech> angrylogic: thanks
[00:51] <gamesiano> 1 is i ?
[00:51] <EDbuntu> dr willis: i wat one like utorrent for winblowz, one that will let me throttle b/w by the hour
[00:51] <bloopletech> gamesiano: 1
[00:51] <djhash> #ubuntu+1   <--- plus one
[00:51] <dr_willis> EDbuntu,  most of them can do that.  at least the more advanced ones.. theres some very basic ones out also.  I tend to use ktorrent.
[00:51] <afallenhope> Are there any clients for broadcasting to shoutcast servers (gui?)
[00:51] <gamesiano> ok, thanks djhash
[00:51] <dr_willis> !icecast
[00:51] <EDbuntu> k dr willis i will try thank you!
[00:52] <Slart> EDbuntu: no need for name calling... there's azureus, deluge amongst others.. I hear you can run utorrent using wine too
[00:52] <musictoto> EDbuntu: http://blog.shevin.info/2007/06/all-ubuntu-torrent-clients-overview.html
[00:52] <djhash> dr_willis: #icecase
[00:52] <Hoover_4000> someone please help i deleted the panel that is at the bottom by default and i dont know how to put it back
[00:52] <DrX> how do you fix root can cd to /mount/mntpoint but not /mount/mntpoint/dir1/dir2 ?
[00:52] <djhash> dr_willis: sorry:: #ice_cast
[00:52] <dr_willis> :)
[00:52] <djhash> dr_willis: i mean: #icecast
[00:52] <Slart> Hoover_4000: right click on the top panel, select "new panel"
[00:52] <djhash> geez.. my briain is fused
[00:52] <scientus> can someone get me a fix for my RTL8168c/8111c, just because those without networking cant complain the developers think that they cann ignore a problem
[00:52] <musictoto> EDbuntu: it's not all the clients, though he says it is :)
[00:52] <Hoover_4000> ya i already did that
[00:53] <scientus> it was broken in hardy and is still broken in intrepid
[00:53] <dr_willis> Hoover_4000,  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[00:53] <dsotm> whats the deal with debian/rules and how do i edit them
[00:53] <dsotm> ?
[00:53] <Hoover_4000> but the problem is when i minimize an application it disapears
[00:53] <Slart> Hoover_4000: Hoover_4000 then you have to add some stuff to that new panel
[00:53] <scientus> i cant browser the internet even with another eth card some =one pls find a fix for me
[00:53] <dr_willis> dsotm,  rules?  be more specific...  that may help.
[00:53] <Slart> Hoover_4000: right click on the new panel, select Add
[00:53] <Hoover_4000> ok
[00:53] <dsotm> dr_willis: i need to edit the rules for gallery2 - the smarty libs are referenced incorrectly in intrepid
[00:54] <Slart> Hoover_4000: then find the applet called "Window list"
[00:54] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: Haha, I figured it out.  Ubuntu switched eth0/eth1 between install and first boot.
[00:54] <scientus> how can i paste without http working?
[00:54] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: So all my rules were backwards.
[00:54] <scientus> someone pls help
[00:54] <Hoover_4000> Slart: then what
[00:54] <Slart> Hoover_4000: add that one.. then you can add the trash can, desktop switcher and whatever you had there before
[00:54] <Slart> Hoover_4000: and you should be back to normal
[00:54] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, ahh..... that would do it
[00:55] <Sylphid> bpgoldsb, glad you figured it out
[00:55] <Hoover_4000> Slart: thanks thats all i needed
[00:55] <angrylogic> dsotm: the debian/rules file contains the commands used to build a debian package;  what are you trying to do with the rules file?
[00:55] <Slart> Hoover_4000: you're welcome.. don't forget the change the size of that window list if it's too small
[00:55] <bloopletech> scientus: privmsg it to that person?
[00:55] <ASrock> is there a gnome channel?
[00:55] <bpgoldsb> Sylphid: So am I, though it makes me want to punch a wall ;)
[00:55] <scientus> but nobody has been helping
[00:55] <Zoohouse> There used to be a panel applet that used to set up a temporary FTP server. Where is it? I can't find it.
[00:55] <dsotm> angrylogic: oh, thats a horse of a different color.  i need to change the reference to the smarty libs in gallery2
[00:56] <scientus> MY NETWORKING IS BROKEN EVEN ON A WORKING ALTERNATIVE NETWORKING CARD
[00:56] <dr_willis> scientus,  use the pastebinit command
[00:56] <Zoohouse> I need to have a temp FTP server to transfer something...
[00:56] <scientus> there is a working driver but ubuntu likes to think it knows what it is oing
[00:56] <angrylogic> dsotm: are you talking about a dependency of the debian package?
[00:56] <Hoover_4000> Slart: thanks
[00:56] <dsotm> angrylogic: yea, libraries it needs
[00:56] <xxgodsmackxx321> http://sarah.watchhertits.com/?id=8cc196441ea58434504e08e5a95684a3
[00:57] <musictoto> spam ?...
[00:57] <Slart> yup
[00:58] <musictoto> then we're going to need an operator
[00:58] <Slart> he's gone already
[00:59] <agitdd99> anybody knows when intrepid will be ready?
[00:59] <epcom> oiiiiiii
[00:59] <epcom> com vai
[00:59] <angrylogic> dsotm: then you'll want to modify the control file for that package and rebuild it.  the control file will have a Depends: line with a list of packages and sometimes versions that it depends on.
[00:59] <musictoto> !intrepid > agitdd99
[00:59] <smil3y> !8.10
[00:59] <agitdd99> i couldn't find any download link yet
[00:59] <epcom> voçe e gostosa
[00:59] <epcom> vadia
[00:59] <epcom> como va
[01:00] <wigren> Hi all. I know the new release of Ubuntu will fix this, but I'm going to stick with 8.04 on my work computer. I'm wondering if anybody ever found a fix for the screen brightness issue where it resets it to the lowest value every time you reboot.
[01:00] <SilentK> :(
[01:00] <epcom> iwdy0qwoy0Úh0ehehteih9tdsjhde7ue
[01:00] <epcom> ha8yhpAYTPASFH9PABBASLHOWAtrbasdf
[01:00] <pavelk1> hi guys
[01:00] <DrBanzai> Ok, now I have samba setup, but when I try to access the share from my windoze box, I get User not found, my smb.conf http://pastebin.com/d18c6dae1
[01:00] <agitdd99> you know it's already october 30th
[01:00] <epcom> aHGIODFO7AL.gopA.LBGILAZTL.BGOA\TAS
[01:00] <epcom> AHOYTGASBOTALBoitfdasdyhoasdkujtsadmntsda
[01:00] <epcom> ghdiotyboiT\LBHIOUTYOALB
[01:00] <FloodBot1> epcom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <epcom> AYH9YFBIUGpidgreabtyfmjytsdhfjf
[01:00] <Slart> !ops | epcom
[01:00] <epcom> hdyeheeuejyweuje9ilwq
[01:00] <smil3y> agitdd99>  not GMT
[01:00] <epcom> jghdilgYO9ÇYEDN9 ALOIUYWAjklhgtawçpsz
[01:00] <epcom> ew
[01:00] <N0xTrUm> hi
[01:01] <agitdd99> smil3y>what time?
[01:01] <musictoto> thanks ops
[01:01] <Myrtti> no probs
[01:01] <dekkong> Hello does anyone know @ what time the new final ubuntu release will be released?
[01:01] <Zoohouse> Anyone know of a FTP tool for setting up a temp ftp server?
[01:01] <pavelk1> i need a help from ubuntu genius
[01:01] <Myrtti> two hours later than planned
[01:01] <Slart> dekkong: noone here knows afaik..
[01:01] <jowast> Is it possible to use google chrome with 8.10
[01:01] <LjL> !intrepid > dekkong    (dekkong, see the private message from ubotu )
[01:02] <scientus> anyone there
[01:02] <smil3y> agitdd99>  when its ready on thursday.......... GMT   goto #ubuntu+1 for intrepid info
[01:02] <Myrtti> no, it's an illusion
[01:02] <mneptok> scientus: nope!
[01:02] <bigmack83> has anyone in here successfully tethered their blackberry for phone as modem use with thier ubuntu box?
[01:02] <Slart> jowast: I didn't think chrome was available for linux.. or?
[01:02] <scientus> lol, soetime my connection break but it doesnt time out
[01:02] <scientus> i need a ping channel
[01:02] <Hoover_4000> jowast: its not possible
[01:02] <epcom> gues
[01:03] <musictoto> Hoover_4000: maybe with wine, it is ?
[01:03] <epcom> fala em portugues
[01:03] <jowast> if I use wine, will I have performance issues?
[01:03] <epcom> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:03] <epcom> d c
[01:03] <Eisbar> someones back
[01:03] <Hoover_4000> musictoto: but it might run really slow if possible
[01:03] <musictoto> Hoover_4000: true
[01:04] <jowast> guess I will have to wait
[01:04] <jowast> thx
[01:04] <musictoto> thanks op, again ;)
[01:04] <angrylogic> jowast: I believe the crossweavers team got it running on their version of wine.
[01:04] <Blowfeld> hi all! how to play chess p2p?!?!
[01:04] <jowast> I will check it out
[01:04] <jowast> thx
[01:04] <Slart> Blowfeld: download a chess game.. there are several in the repos
[01:04] <compton> how long would you guess it will take for the CDs to be sent out after new version?
[01:04] <Marthy___> Blowfeld:  ???
[01:04] <Slart> Blowfeld: I think eboard is pretty good
[01:05] <musictoto> compton: usually takes 6 weeks tops
[01:05] <compton> musictoto, cool thanks
[01:05] <angrylogic> jowist: make that codeweavers :)
[01:06] <ericjung> can anyone recommend a torrent client for Ubuntu that's more in-depth than Transmission?
[01:07] <DrBanzai> When using my Windoze pc to access my music directory on my samba server, I get User name not found.  I can browse to the server fine, but as soon as I try to open the actual music folder, I get the error.  My smb.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/d18c6dae1  Any ideas?
[01:07] <musictoto> ericjung: http://blog.shevin.info/2007/06/all-ubuntu-torrent-clients-overview.html
[01:07] <Socceroos> ericjung: Azureus
[01:07] <bloopletech> would anybode be able to take a look at this? http://pastie.org/303683 I'm trying to get php 5.1 running on hardy
[01:07] <ericjung> Azureus is for video
[01:07] <agitdd99> is there anyone experienced static IP setup didn't work out in the late release of intrepid?
[01:07] <Myrtti> !intrepid > agitdd99
[01:08] <Slart> ericjung: you can also run utorrent using wine
[01:08] <Blowfeld> Slart thx eboard looks great
[01:08] <compton> !intrepid
[01:08] <agitdd99> ubottu:sorry
[01:08] <Slart> Blowfeld: you're welcome
[01:08] <Hoover_4000> ericjung: its for videos but through torrents
[01:08] <Tyrath_> is the application menu binded to a key? if so what is it?
[01:08] <ericjung> Hoover_4000: yeah but i use torrent for more than video
[01:08] <w3rd_> does vi or nano store a file extension?
[01:09] <w3rd_> or something that specifies the file type besides the filename?
[01:09] <dr_willis> w3rd_,  the idea of a file extension - isent really used by linux..   its just part of the filename
[01:09] <Slart> Hoover_4000, ericjung: Azureus has some weird mode they call Vuze for online video.. but there's still a classic setting
[01:09] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: why don't you just vi filename.<extension> ?
[01:09] <Hoover_4000> ericjung: ya but its really slow if it comes to torrents
[01:09] <compton> Vuze is  quite cool
[01:09] <usser>   Tyrath_ its alt+F1
[01:09] <GodfatherofEir1> ﻿Any advice on running programs under wine, because so far I havent managed to get anything other than installers to run.
[01:09] <bobbob1016> I know this isn't a programming channel, but I thought since it was g++ on ubuntu, I could ask here since it seems to be g++, since I get http://pastebin.ca/1240169 even with nothing in int main apart from return 0;
[01:10] <Tyrath_> usser: thanks and is it in the lists of binds, so as I can rebind it?
[01:10] <w3rd_> well, this is the issue, im on a hosted vps that i dont have root access to and it appears that for some reason that when i try to create a file that is going to be used for apache it wont let me store an empty file with just a name
[01:10] <musictoto> !wine > GodfatherofEir1
[01:10] <Hoover_4000> Slart, ericjung: well they changed the name from azerus to vuze
[01:10] <w3rd_> is there a way to just store a file with a name and exclude any content
[01:10] <w3rd_> ?
[01:10] <usser> Tyrath_, yea its there
[01:10] <Tyrath_> usser: thanks
[01:10] <jrib> bobbob1016: pastebin your source code and the actual commands you ran in your terminal
[01:10] <ericjung> Hoover_4000: vuze on Windows sucks
[01:10] <Kaxsp> where can i donwload it?
[01:10] <bloopletech> w3rd: touch <name of file> in terminal
[01:10] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: I thought that would do it?
[01:10] <w3rd_> me to..
[01:11] <jrib> Kaxsp: download what?
[01:11] <GodfatherofEir1> Thanks
[01:11] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: you've logged into the server yes?
[01:11] <w3rd_> oh i forgot about touch
[01:11] <Slart> ericjung: just disable vuze.. the classic mode is still the same torrent client as before
[01:11] <w3rd_> just a moment
[01:11] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: username and pass?
[01:11] <musictoto> GodfatherofEir1: you're welcome
[01:11] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: bc in my opinion if you've logged in you should have root access
[01:11] <w3rd_> im logged in to the server Tyrath
[01:11] <w3rd_> no just shell access
[01:11] <w3rd_> its a shared server
[01:11] <Hoover_4000> ericjung: when i try to mention the word windows on here people start hating on me but all i can say utorrent is the best way in windows wish they make it for linux
[01:12] <jgoguen> Hoover_4000: runs perfectly under Wine
[01:12] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: maybe you need root privs to write? i'm not sure
[01:12] <w3rd_> they have setup user groups pretty heavy and eliminated root use to all users other that admins
[01:12] <karl5765765> what time is 8.10 coming out at?
[01:12] <compton> w3rd_, touch filename
[01:12] <gleesond> is there a way to send all my audio through my onboard spdif port
[01:12] <w3rd_> compton it wont let me write the file with touch
[01:12] <w3rd_> i think that i need root
[01:12] <musictoto> !intrepid > karl5765765
[01:12] <ericjung> Hoover_4000: what i mean is that if vuze sucks for windows it probably sucks for ubuntu, too
[01:12] <w3rd_> touch digest
[01:12] <w3rd_> touch: cannot touch `digest': No such file or directory
[01:12] <usser> karl5765765, should be out already, any moment now
[01:12] <Tyrath_> w3rd_: google vi?
[01:12] <w3rd_> heh
[01:12] <Tyrath_> or :help
[01:12] <bobbob1016> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1240176
[01:12] <MetalHeadDead> whats a good program to scan for viruses that you know youve come in contact with, but dont want to spread it to windows users?
[01:12] <Tyrath_> or man vi
[01:12] <bloopletech> w3rd_: you might now have permissions to write to that directory
[01:13] <Thedjatclubrock> Do you know if I could take the Ubuntu LiveCD, replace the default GNOME backgroud?
[01:13] <w3rd_> well i think id better just submit a ticket to my webhost
[01:13] <Slart> MetalHeadDead: clamav comes with some kind of scanner gui
[01:13] <usser> MetalHeadDead, clamav
[01:13] <Tyrath_> best of luck
[01:13] <w3rd_> bloopletech: what do you mean, this happens in all directories
[01:13] <unop> w3rd_, what filesystem is the volume ?
[01:13] <w3rd_> i have tried multiple
[01:13] <Slart> MetalHeadDead: there are some commercial av-apps available too
[01:13] <Hoover_4000> ericjung: it takes like 10 minutes to download something utorrent does in 1-2 minutes
[01:13] <w3rd_> er... gimmie a sec unop
[01:13] <MetalHeadDead> ok thanks
[01:13] <angrylogic> w3rd_: try /bin/touch <somefile>;  your shell might have a built-in named touch or you might have it aliased to something else
[01:13] <bloopletech> w3rd_: even in you're home directory?
[01:13] <w3rd_> probably in home
[01:13] <compton> can I edit files on the livecd iso before burning it?
[01:14] <musictoto> Thedjatclubrock: be more specific. what do you want to change using the live CD ?
[01:14] <DrBanzai> When using my Windoze pc to access my music directory on my samba server, I get User name not found.  I can browse to the server fine, but as soon as I try to open the actual music folder, I get the error.  My smb.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/d18c6dae1  Any ideas?
[01:14] <w3rd_> but i wouldnt feel comfortable storing a psswd file for htdigest in the home dir?
[01:14] <compton> DrBanzai, try #samba
[01:14] <Thedjatclubrock> musictoto: I'd like to modify the default background for new users, and distribute it on a LiveCD
[01:14] <Thedjatclubrock> Basically
[01:14] <XshoppyX> No one knows what the final release will even be
[01:14] <Thedjatclubrock> And maybe some other GNOME hacks
[01:15] <micahf> hey guys, any idea why my DVD burner is showing up as a CD-ROM drive?
[01:15] <micahf> it's really frustrating
[01:15] <easotokr> hi every one again..... I getting: Error loading theme icon $1 for stock: Icon $1 not present in theme BUT the file exists.. please help!!!
[01:15] <bloopletech> w3rd_: in general shared hosts don't let you change files in /etc etc, only your hime dir and stuff you should be able to write to.
[01:15] <w3rd_> uname doesnt mention the site config unop, ill have to check the hosts site details
[01:15] <XshoppyX> because it can read cds?
[01:15] <jrib> bobbob1016: have you installed build-essential?
[01:15] <w3rd_> bloopletech: im in /misc
[01:15] <musictoto> Thedjatclubrock: can't help you with that, sure someone else here can.
[01:15] <micahf> XshoppyX, :) yes but it's not recognizing blank discs
[01:15] <bobbob1016> jrib, I've done compiling before, I will make sure.
[01:15] <unop> w3rd_, no, i mean filesystem as in EXTx, FAT, NTFS, etc
[01:15] <unop> w3rd_,  examining the output of the mount command should tell you
[01:16] <bobbob1016> jrib, I did "sudo apt-get install build-essential" I had it installed already.
[01:16] <bloopletech> w3rd_: you probably dont have permissions on that directory
[01:16] <philippe_> Hello. Is it know exactly to which hours Intrepid Ibex final will be out? If it is at 00:00 East time I will wait to install it ;)
[01:16] <flemota> #ubuntu-es
[01:16] <Dorobo18jp> is there an evolution chanenel? for help or can i ask here
[01:16] <jrib> bobbob1016: have you installed anything to /usr/local/?
[01:16] <Tyrath> just wanted to ask one last thing. is there a way so that when you open up apps in terminal it displays the app name in the header?
[01:16] <Slart> philippe_: nope.. no exact time yet
[01:17] <philippe_> ok
[01:17] <bobbob1016> jrib, Not explicitly.
[01:17] <jrib> bobbob1016: what does that mean?
[01:17] <Slart> Tyrath: check the preferences.. there's supposed to be some kind of dynamic title thing.. I never got it to work though
[01:17] <micahf> when I do hdparm it says "ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media"
[01:17] <bobbob1016> jrib, I didn't install anything there, something might have been installed there, but I didn't tell anything to be installed there.
[01:18] <w3rd_> blookpletech: im going to attempt to specify another directory and see what happens...
[01:18] <spx2> is there anything ... some kind of framework that indexes all documents on a directory and provides searching capabilities through a web front-end ?
[01:18] <jrib> bobbob1016: do you have anything in /usr/local/?
[01:18] <bobbob1016> jrib, bin  etc  games  include  lib  man  sbin  share  src
[01:18] <Slart> spx2: there is an indexer installed by default.. don't know if it comes with a webgui though..
[01:18] <w3rd_> how do you store something just to bash
[01:18] <w3rd_> the reason i cant store it is cause i was using /
[01:18] <w3rd_> and im sure they dont let you save files to the / dir
[01:19] <Tyrath> Slart: can't find anything :(
[01:19] <jrib> bobbob1016: what is in bin
[01:19] <Slart> spx2: you might want to look at "beagle" too
[01:19] <SilentK> This is too damn hard.
[01:19] <w3rd_> ~filename_to_store_to
[01:19] <w3rd_> ?
[01:19] <SilentK> I need my wireless card to work.
[01:19] <Slart> Tyrath: it's in Edit, "Current profile" ..
[01:20] <Dorobo18jp> is there a way to set up an animated email notification for my desktop in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <Tyrath> oh another thing with key binds. I've binded the windows key to applications but as a result all my binds with windows key don't work... is there any way around this other than changing the key configs?
[01:20] <koparg> i cant get firefox in spanish! how do i do that?
[01:20] <micahf> this is so annoying!
[01:20] <Slart> Tyrath: but as I said.. I've never been able to make it work sensibly
[01:20] <unop> w3rd_, you probably want this instead.  ~/filename
[01:20] <w3rd_> oh yah.
[01:20] <bobbob1016> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1240183  I actually did put 3 things in there, senicon (both of them), and waterping.  They tell compiz's water effect to do a water ping on gnotify.
[01:20] <unop> w3rd_, ~filename  would interpret filename as a user's name - you need the slash to make ~ represent your own home directory
[01:20] <w3rd_> k
[01:21] <Tyrath> Slart: yeh mines already set on replace initial title :(
[01:21] <Slart> Tyrath: yea.. so is mine.. it's never replaced anything so far
[01:21] <Tyrath> Slart: lol. even on intrepid :/
[01:21] <musictoto> koparg: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
[01:22] <hal14450> I need advice in regards to setting up a lan repository for an installfest this weekend anyone have any links?
[01:23] <LjL> !info apt-cacher hal14450
[01:23] <jrib> bobbob1016: readlink -f $(which g++)
[01:23] <LjL> !info apt-cacher | hal14450
[01:23] <angrylogic> hal14450: you can also look at apt-mirror and debmirror
[01:23] <jrib> bobbob1016: I get lines 6-11 of your error when I try to compile with gcc instead of g++
[01:24] <bobbob1016> jrib, readlink -f $(which g++)
[01:24] <koparg> how do i install firefox 3 in spanish ??
[01:24] <hal14450> thanks guys i'll have a look at those but i should qualify the statement by saying i'll have the repos for 8.04 on dvd
[01:24] <bobbob1016> jrib, Sorry, forgot about g++, I saw gcc.
[01:25] <jrib> koparg: usa os repositorios com o programa synaptic
[01:25] <Flannel> hal14450: Then you can get those packages from your media.
[01:25] <musikgoat> hal14450: thats where you'd collect the cache server to host on the lan
[01:25] <koparg> jrib: ive use it, ive installed firefox3 but mozilla es is for firefox 2
[01:25] <jimmio> Hello all
[01:25] <bobbob1016> jrib, It compiled fine with g++
[01:25] <jrib> koparg: hrmm, is your ubuntu language set to spanish (when you login)?
[01:26] <jrib> bobbob1016: k
[01:26] <bobbob1016> jrib, One more thing, how do I run the compiled code, ./a.out right?
[01:26] <Cao> anyone ever used ubuntu studio? if so whats ur opinion of it
[01:26] <hal14450> so basically i just setup the server with all the packages and then add the repo in /etc/apt/sources.list eh?
[01:26] <jrib> bobbob1016: sure.  Or pass -o NAME to g++ so that you can run ./NAME
[01:26] <^Oink^> I have a package that's being held back after both apt-get upgrade AND after apt-get dist-upgrade. what is going on? the package is kab
[01:26] <jimmio> I'm having strange issues with my CA0106 Creative SoundBlaster Audigy SE's input... it's distorted badly until I run jack and Ardour, then it's crystal clear... any ideas?
[01:27] <Flannel> ^Oink^: pastebin the output of apt-cache policy kab
[01:27] <^Oink^> ok 1 sec
[01:27] <ptx0> nenolod, what
[01:28] <jrib> koparg: you might want to try #ubuntu-es, they know better about the language settings I'm sure
[01:28] <^Oink^> Flannel, No need, it's one line: "E: Invalid operation police"
[01:28] <Flannel> overkordbaever: policy
[01:28] <Flannel> er, ^Oink^
[01:29] <bingungaja> has ubuntu 8.10 release by today 30 oct ?
[01:29] <jrib> bingungaja: check the topic
[01:29] <^Oink^> Flannel, I don't understand you
[01:29] <bingungaja> ok sorry
[01:30] <JakeMon> how do i search for a package i have installed?
[01:30] <Flannel> ^Oink^: apt-cache policy kab, not apt-cache police kab
[01:30] <Flannel> JakeMon: What are you looking to search for/by/etc?
[01:30] <^Oink^> Flannel, Okay I see now. "W: Unable to locate package kab"
[01:31] <JakeMon> Flannel: i want to make sure i have removed all exim related packages
[01:31] <Flannel> ^Oink^: What's the package name then?  You said kab, obviously that's not it.  Whatever it is, pastebin the output of apt-cache policy [package]
[01:31] <Flannel> JakeMon: `dpkg -l | grep exim` would work
[01:31] <JakeMon> Flannel: thanks
[01:32] <JakeMon> Flannel: what does "rc" mean to the left of the package?
[01:32] <^Oink^> Flannel, Oh okay, duh, I feel really dumb now, i have a goofy font on my terminal. it's k3b and i am pastebinning the output now.
[01:32] <jimmio> Anyone here have some knowledge of getting distortion on CA0106 sound card input? and then it randomly disappearing when I start Jack and Ardour?
[01:33] <Flannel> JakeMon: if you dpkg -l | less, theres a little header that explains both columns.  But that'd be removed, but the config is still around (you removed the package, but you didn't purge it, so the config is still there)
[01:33] <^Oink^> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/m17fc5bf4
[01:34] <JakeMon> Flannel: could apt-get purge the package?
[01:34] <Flannel> JakeMon: Yeah, or "Complete Removal" in synaptic
[01:34] <mistform> good evening, #Ubuntu
[01:34] <seivan> I have been up all night trying to get ubuntu on my mac mini, using both amd 64 and regular 32 bit, both hardy en interprid, both ubuntu and xubuntu, and still get the flashing ?
[01:34] <tecnicodpc>  /join #linuxjournal
[01:35] <^Oink^> JakeMon, rc means release candidate
[01:35] <mistform> could I get some help from someone? I want to create something to check my CPU/Mobo temps every so many minutes and output to a file
[01:35] <Flannel> ^Oink^: Alright, so, you have the hardy version available, and you're not upgrading to the hardy-backports version for some reason.  So, what you do now is sudo apt-get install k3b, it'll give you a reason why its being held back (depends on X, but X is not going to be installed), then you sudo apt-get install X (X depends on Y, but Y is not going to be installed), sudo apt-get install Y, .... etc, until you get to a 'real' error message, which wil
[01:35] <musictoto> seivan: are you setting it up into a virtual machine, or using bootcamp ?
[01:36] <amt2> i was trying to map a network drive by following the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently. However, the drive didnt map correctly, and now my other local hard drive is also not getting mounted. any help would be appreciated
[01:36] <mistform> right now I'm using lm-sensors for temps, but I don't know how to make anything myself
[01:36] <EDbuntu> whats the best way to run xp and ubuntu at the same time so i can toggle between the two? is it parallels?
[01:36] <^Oink^> Flannel, "error message, which wi" you cut off there
[01:36] <Frogzoo> EDbuntu: windows on vmware, with shared network drive
[01:37] <EDbuntu> k
[01:37] <musictoto> EDbuntu: you can do that by virtualization: Parallels/VMware/Virtualbox/QEMU
[01:37] <Flannel> ^Oink^: (depends on X, but X is not going to be installed), then you sudo apt-get install X (X depends on Y, but Y is not going to be installed), sudo apt-get install Y, .... etc, until you get to a 'real' error message, which will say (it depends on version A, but we've only got version B, etc)
[01:37] <seivan> musictoto: bootcamp sorta
[01:37] <musictoto> EDbuntu: Virtualbox and QEMU both being open source and free software
[01:37] <seivan> musictoto: I just boot the cd, install, 6) Reboot and remember: every time you want to run Ubuntu Linux, you’ll have to keep the alt key pressed during boot and choose “Windows” (Yes, really) from the boot menu that opens.
[01:37] <seivan> and nothing pops up for me musictoto
[01:38] <Shpook> Will XBMC run in Xubuntu? Or is it native to Gnome?
[01:38] <king_> when can i update to 8.10 from sources
[01:38] <Dorobo18jp> anyone have any ideas on how to get an animated email notification for my desktop ?
[01:39] <musictoto> seivan: i'm not following you, tell me everything you did, slow
[01:39] <^Oink^> !intrepid king_
[01:39] <Flannel> !intrepid | king_
[01:39] <CaneToad> does anyone have any clues about how to escape an X grab that locks up the entire desktop [without a network connection] ?
[01:40] <seivan> musictoto: Alright, I installed (litteraly tried all versions) ubuntu  using entire mac mini disk (80 gig)  79 as / (being bootable) and 1 gb as swap. NO osx, no bootcamp. it installs flawless (both alternative and live cd works to install with) I reboot, hold down alt.. nothing shows up, HELP ME SOMEONE
[01:40] <zigzags> is there anything in ubuntu that will display allmy system info at once? like video card, processor name/speed, memory types/amounts? something similar to dxdiag
[01:40] <jrib> CaneToad: can you get to a tty?
[01:40] <chuckles_theSHED> Anyone?  -- using Ubuntu Hardy, I made the mistake of disconnecting/disabling my wireless connection - can't figure out how to enable again.
[01:41] <seivan> alexlea: when I boot with the OS X cd and check disk manager.. it says guid partition table, should it be like that?
[01:41] <CaneToad> jrib, the keyboard and mouse during an X grab become entirely unresponsive, can't do anything except for power down and reboot... bad because it happens if you put a breakpoint in a popup menu callback
[01:42] <amt2> i was trying to map a network drive by following the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently. However, the drive didnt map correctly, and now my other local hard drive is also not getting mounted. any help would be appreciated
[01:42] <^Oink^> zigzags, lspci will give you most of it
[01:42] <Flannel> CaneToad: Tried REISUB?
[01:42] <mistform> could I get some help from someone? I want to create something to check my CPU/Mobo temps every so many minutes and output to a file
[01:42] <zigzags> thanks
[01:42] <CaneToad> Flannel, I'll go google REISUB, thanks
[01:42] <Flannel> !sysrq | CaneToad
[01:42] <musictoto> seivan: so you can't start ubuntu, nor start something else ?
[01:43] <Flannel> CaneToad: It'll just verify the level of "frozen"ness
[01:43] <seivan> musictoto: exactly, I just got ubuntu though I dont want OS X
[01:43] <seivan> musictoto: it doesnt find it, no offence man, but do you got experienec with installing on a mac?
[01:43] <^Oink^> Flannel, I have never heard of that before in my life. Does that work with every distribution?
[01:44] <CaneToad> Flannel, all that needs happen is that the application holding the X grab needs to be killed, does REISUB help with that?
[01:44] <musictoto> seivan: i'm a exp. mac user
[01:44] <^Oink^> Flannel, I run a datacenter that is very valuable info. Does it work in every linux distro?
[01:44] <micahf> anyone have ideas why my blank DVDs don't show up for nautilus or dvdrtools ?
[01:44] <Flannel> ^Oink^: It should, yes.
[01:44] <musictoto> seivan: you used the live CD to install, or the alternate install
[01:44] <micahf> it's bugging the heck out of me
[01:44] <seivan> musictoto: I GOT both.. 100 different versions of them
[01:44] <Fezzler1> I want to connect my Brother printer to Ubuntu over the network.  The printer is installed via USB to my Vista PC.  Do I use cupswrapper or lpr driver?
[01:45] <zigzags> how do I use grep?
[01:45] <zigzags> with lspci
[01:45] <musictoto> seivan: none of them working... i understand
[01:45] <Flannel> CaneToad: Ah, well, that's likely not the issue.  Can you ctrl-alt-f1 out of it?
[01:45] <zigzags> i just need the syntax
[01:45] <seivan> musictoto: they work installing
[01:45] <seivan> musictoto: but nothing more.. they dont boot, just flashing -> ? that is questin mark
[01:45] <CaneToad> Flannel, no, those keys are unresponsive during an X grab
[01:45] <seivan> musictoto: When I boot OS X disc, and check disc utility, all I can see is swap on 1 gig, and 79 free space sorta...
[01:46] <musictoto> seivan: yeah.
[01:46] <musictoto> seivan: never happened to me before
[01:46] <Fezzler1> Flannel> Hey. I was going to reparition my hard drives with gparted but folks warned of data loss.  Risky?
[01:46] <musictoto> seivan: i had 2 flawless ubuntu installs (8.04) on macs using the live CD...
[01:46] <seivan> I am out of CD
[01:46] <seivan> musictoto: how did you do?
[01:47] <musictoto> seivan: just by running it... i never encountered your problem
[01:47] <Flannel> Fezzler1: er, oh, doing the shrink/expand thing?  Every sort of disk operation carries some risk of data loss.  But assuming you perform the erase/expand on the correct partitions (instead of erasing the partitions you're using), your risk is minimal.
[01:47] <jrib> Fezzler1: it's not risky if you have backups, which you should have for any data you care about anyway
[01:47] <Andril> 1 day to go :)
[01:48] <Flannel> Andril: #ubuntu-release-party, not here, thanks.
[01:48] <mistform> can anyone help me with lm-sensors?
[01:48] <chuckles_theSHED> Anyone?  -- using Hardy, I disconnected/disabled my wireless through network selector  - can't figure out how to enable again.
[01:48] <Andril> sorry
[01:48] <rww> mistform: possibly, but we won't know until you state the problem ;-)
[01:49] <amt2> did anyone get a chance to read my question?
[01:49] <mistform> rww, I'm trying to make lm-sensors output temp1 and temp2 to a file
[01:50] <Krispy> allo
[01:50] <kakoonia> where's ubuntu!?!
[01:51] <rww> mistform: what's the output of the "sensors" command? if it includes the information you want, can you copy it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ please?
[01:51] <kakoonia> someone knows when ubuntu ibex arrives?
[01:51] <LjL> !isitout | kakoonia
[01:51] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know if there is an evolution email help room ?
[01:51] <mistform> kakoonia, supposed to be released the 30th of October
[01:52] <lazukars_> I just installed gtk and know Gnome fails.  ahhhh.  How do I fix?
[01:52] <Winkie> mistform: are you trying to make these files be 'live', or just output them when you run a command?
[01:52] <Blowfeld> when is 8.10 online?!
[01:52] <Flannel> !isitout | Blowfeld
[01:52] <jrib> lazukars_: what you said makes no sense really.  What exactly did you do?
[01:52] <hal14450> LjL, angrylogic , Flannel and musikgoat thank you for the tips we'll see how it plays out this weekend ;-)
[01:52] <mistform> Winkie, I was first going to output when I ran the command. next I'd like to create a daemon to output the temps every 5 min to a log file
[01:53] <lazukars_> jrib: downloaded gtk inorder or gftp to work
[01:53] <Blowfeld> !isitout
[01:53] <jrib> lazukars_: **exactly**.  Did you compile gtk?
[01:53] <Winkie> mistform: it should be very trivial to use a script to output the details, can i ask what you are using this for? there may be a better way
[01:54] <SilentK> Can anyone help me with my wireless card now?
[01:54] <mistform> Winkie, well I keep getting random system freezes. if I had a log of temperatures I could see if it was overheating
[01:54] <lazukars_> no.  I do not even know what gtk is.  I just downloaded it b/c gftp needs it.  Stupid on my part.
[01:54] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know where i can get a animated desktop email notification ?
[01:54] <mistform> I pretty sure its not a PSU problem anymore
[01:54] <jrib> lazukars_: what did you do after you downloaded gtk?
[01:54] <lazukars_> jrib: nothing
[01:54] <mistform> Dorobo18jp, look for evolution mail plugins
[01:54] <Winkie> mistform: i see, complete freezes or application freezes?
[01:54] <lazukars_> jrib: just rebooted.
[01:54] <mistform> Winkie, entire system freeze. only hardboot will recover
[01:55] <Winkie> mistform: have you run memtest?
[01:55] <jrib> lazukars_: so that's probably not related as downloading a file is not going to cause gnome to fail.  Did you do anything else?
[01:55] <mistform> Winkie, yes.
[01:55] <Krispy> 	
[01:55] <Krispy> I would like to know What time will ubuntu 8.10 Sortier officiale and what time zone if you like
[01:55] <mistform> Winkie, it's usually when my CPU is under load for more than 10 minutes.
[01:55] <jrib> !isitout | Krispy
[01:55] <lazukars_> jrib: got this error: Symbol lookup error /user/lib/libgtk_x11-2.0.5.0 undefined symbol: g_hash ble_ref
[01:55] <Krispy> ok merci
[01:55] <nkei0> herro, say I open a program in the terminal...  How do i continue doing stuff in that terminal without closing that program i opened?
[01:55] <mistform> Winkie, playing movies, flash, or just too many firefox pages will crash it
[01:56] <Winkie> mistform: well it sounds like you've done some basic checking, can you paste the output of the `sensors' command somewhere please?
[01:56] <lazukars_> jrib: I did nothing else
[01:56] <jrib> nkei0: ctrl-z and then 'bg'
[01:56] <mistform> !paste
[01:56] <nkei0> jrib: what exactly does that do?
[01:56] <Winkie> nkei0: it puts the process in the 'background'
[01:56] <Winkie> it will still be connected to your terminal, so you will get output from it
[01:56] <nkei0> sweet, thanks
[01:56] <Winkie> a better way is to use gnu screen
[01:56] <compton> pauses the task
[01:56] <compton> then puts it in the background
[01:56] <rww> lol, i asked for the output of "sensors" 5 minutes ago ;-)
[01:56] <Winkie> nkei0: apt-get install screen
[01:56] <Winkie> rww: i saw ;)
[01:56] <jrib> lazukars_: ok, then how exactly is gnome failing?
[01:57] <Winkie> rww: i was thinking maybe there was a better /proc way
[01:57] <nkei0> i'm retarded and still don't really have any clue what I'm doing in ubuntu
[01:57] <mistform> Winkie, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64414/
[01:57] <Winkie> are the ### lines the ones you want?
[01:57] <mistform> yeah
[01:57] <mistform> I just need temps
[01:57] <lazukars_> jrib: it says "FAIL" nest to the words Gnome on startup.
[01:57] <mistform> I already tested my voltage rails
[01:57] <killux> hey is intrepid going to be released at like 12 on the dot?
[01:57] <Winkie> mistform: my bash is not amazing, one minute
[01:58] <lazukars_> jrib: plus Gnome does not start.
[01:58] <jrib> lazukars_: create a new user
[01:58] <lazukars_> jrib: ok
[01:58] <scientus> how do i copy a partition from one drive to another?
[01:58] <mistform> Winkie, mine is worse than yours. I know some C++ which only comes in handy with structure. doesn't help at all with syntax :S
[01:58] <Krispy> each time you ask, it's delayed two hours
[01:58] <Krispy> oups
[01:58] <Flannel> Krispy: not here.
[01:59] <Winkie> mistform: well you should learn regular expressions, egrep will get this easily, i'm just not sure of exactly the best way to do things in bash
[01:59] <Winkie> i write Perl :p
[01:59] <rww> !isitout | killux
[02:00] <WebGuest> how many hours?
[02:00] <rww> how about this: sensors | grep "Temp:"  > /var/log/templog
[02:01] <LjL> !isitout | WebGuest
[02:01] <rww> and make a file /var/log/templog, and throw that command in crontab
[02:01] <Beta-guy> how long until Unbuntu 8.10 is released?
[02:01] <WebGuest> merci
[02:01] <MetalHeadDead> one day!
[02:01] <Beta-guy> 24 hours?
[02:01] <Winkie> mistform: if only i could remember how to replace newlines :)
[02:01] <chuckles> Anyone help?  -- I disconnected/disabled my wireless through network selector  - can't figure out how to enable again.
[02:01] <lazukars_> jrib: what is creating a new user going to do?
[02:01] <WebGuest> well who literally releases it? someone in europe? cali?
[02:02] <nkei0> So, where is the folderset for gimp located by default?  Whenever I search I find it in usr/share/gimp, but it runs 2.6 and that shows usr/share/gimp/2.0
[02:02] <rww> Winkie, mistform: (resending 'cause i forgot to prepend your names) how about this: sensors | grep "Temp:"  > /var/log/templog; and make a file /var/log/templog, and throw that command in crontab
[02:02] <jrib> lazukars_: if the new user logs in fine, you know it's a user config issue.  If the new user also fails, you know it's not a user config issue
[02:02] <Flannel> !isitout | WebGuest
[02:02] <Flannel> Beta-guy, you too.
[02:02] <WebGuest> haha sorry
[02:03] <mistform> rww, thank you very much. I was just learning some more "piping" variables :)
[02:03] <Unknown23179> im having trouble with my resolution, i need to set my video card or something?
[02:03] <GoD^spyteman> has anyone experienced high cpu usage problems with the recent kernel update to 2.6.22-15 (gutsy)? i'm getting 100% cpu whenever i run an opengl fullscreen game although i haven't changed fglrx drivers before. now tried several versions of fglrx, both original from repositories and from ATI website but they all give me the same 100% cpu usage
[02:03] <mistform> rww, from what I googled and read, that should work :)
[02:03] <rww> mistform: do you know how
[02:03] <decherdt_> tried that AltSyRq REISB and /home/scott became owned by ftp, group scott, ..chown -R seems to have worked, gotta remeber that U, or something
[02:04] <aleka> I have been using an external USB storage device as my backup on my Ubuntu box for a while...for some reason though, I can't seem to be able to mount it... this a what I am getting in dmesg when connecting the device: [517227.646754] usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > Any ideas?
[02:04] <rww> mistform: (hit return by accident) to put stuff in the root crontab, or shall i find instructions?
[02:04] <Winkie> rww: i have been wrestling with bash because i am rusty, the best solution i would imagine is while true; do sensors|egrep "(M/B|CPU) Temp" |awk '{print $3}' >> temps.txt; sleep 1; done
[02:04] <Winkie> but i can't remember how to remove newlines :(
[02:05] <Winkie> also you probably want to up the sleep to 300 (5 minutes)
[02:05] <rww> Winkie: rather than mess with while and sleep, you could just put it in crontab. Your egrep does the same as my grep, and I don't know what the awk part does :)
[02:05] <aleka> to add to my question above, the device enclosure is intact and gets mounted properly on a Mac
[02:05] <GoD^spyteman> has anyone experienced problems with 100% cpu usage with recently updated kernel and fglrx (any version)? in opengl applications/games?
[02:06] <Winkie> rww: yeah you could crontab it, but it works as a simple 'daemon' this way, your way is also valid, and awk seperates the actual temperatures
[02:06] <CardiacKid> anyone willing to field some rookie questions about remote access to a ubuntu machine?
[02:06] <Winkie> CardiacKid: just ask your questions :)
[02:06] <amt2> i was trying to map a network drive by following the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently. However, the drive didnt map correctly, and now my other local hard drive is also not getting mounted. any help would be appreciated
[02:06] <joshux> today 8.10  ?
[02:06] <Winkie> amt2: by 'not getting mounted' do you mean it's not mounted on boot, or a specific command fails?
[02:06] <rww> !isitout | joshux
[02:07] <seivan> is swap logical or primary
[02:07] <realsifo> hello. could youguys help me how to connect my se k750i for gprs modem in ubuntu?
[02:07] <Winkie> seivan: it doesn't matter
[02:07]  * lolzter fucks you.
[02:07] <seivan> Winkie: you sure
[02:07] <Xpistos> Okay, so my ubuntu server has available updates, how to run the updates from the command line when I am SSHed in
[02:07] <joshux> can't wait lol
[02:07] <Winkie> seivan: logical or primary are partition types on the disk, swap is what the partition is used for
[02:07] <Entropy51423> Hello, I am using the vncserver tool via command line, and the process appears but it appears that it does not start the desktop appropriately
[02:07] <Winkie> seivan: i'm pretty sure i have machines with both
[02:07] <joshux> it says it'll be out on 10/30
[02:08] <Winkie> Entropy51423: there should be a log in ~/.vnc/ somewhere I think
[02:08] <mistform> rww, is there any way to append the time to the log?
[02:08] <joshux> it's 10/30 here
[02:08] <joshux> :)
[02:08] <Winkie> Thu Oct 30 02:09:04 GMT 2008
[02:08] <amt2> Winkie: I mean that if I click on the drive under Places, I get 'Cannot mount volume', so it's as if I have no access to the drive
[02:08] <CardiacKid> I'm about 1 week into learning Ubuntu and I want to go headless on a file server I have setup. Do I need to install a VNC viewer on each machine I want to remote in with?or can I configure the box to accept remote access through an IP?
[02:09] <panmeng> cn
[02:09] <panmeng> china
[02:09] <Winkie> amt2: hmm, that's an interest problem, i was expecting an issue with your fstab, but i don't think that would affect normal drives
[02:09] <rww> !cn | panmeng
[02:09] <Winkie> CardiacKid: by 'accept remote access through an IP' why would that mean you didn't need to use a vnc viewer?
[02:10] <amt2> Winkie, I just modified /etc/fstab as it says on the link, by adding a single line. I tried removing it but still ntohing
[02:10] <Winkie> amt2: you're sure that you left it as it was? have you rebooted since?
[02:10] <spwnt> are the wine download servers down?
[02:11] <musictoto> CardiacKid: you'll always have to use a vnc viewer program
[02:11] <Ohmu> All, gparted reports my HDD partitions as: sda1 (ext3,35GB with an old unused ubuntu), unallocated (2GB), sda2 (extended, contains 2 swaps: sda5, sda6 totalling 6 gigs), sda3 (20GB - my current Ubuntu).  I want to shift my ubuntu from sda3 to sda1.  How can I do that?  gparted isn't allowing any moves.  do I have to unmount them first?
[02:11] <scunizi> CardiacKid, if you have a gui installed you could set up xdmcp for access.. that's under the sessions button on the login screen or.. ssh into it for text access or combine that with vnc for desktop secure.
[02:11] <rww> CardiacKid: Are you talking about configuring the box so that you can VNC in using a web browser applet?
[02:11] <CardiacKid> would the "Remote Desktop" terminal in windows be considered a VNC viewer?
[02:11] <Winkie> CardiacKid: there is an RDP server, but it is not particularly well supported if I remember correctly
[02:11] <amt2> Winkie, yes I rebooted
[02:11] <rww> CardiacKid: 'cause I remember doing that in Debian a few years ago, but forget how I did it :/
[02:11] <scunizi> CardiacKid, you can always run vnc on windows
[02:11] <Hoover_4000> anyone know how to install .run packages, i have already tried to allow execution and run in terminal but it doesnt work?
[02:11] <to1> how do i go about downloading beryl?
[02:11] <amt2> Winkie, unless I made a stupid mistake, then yes, I just added the line, then deleted it. I can show you the file if that's helpful
[02:12] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, sudo ./<package.run>
[02:12] <musictoto> CardiacKid: no... the Remote Desktop on windows is no vnc program
[02:12] <Winkie> amt2: it would be useful, it could also be one of many problems, have you checked your logs for any errors / do you know the physical device details?
[02:12] <rww> !compiz | to1
[02:12] <Winkie> !paste
[02:12] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: what do you mean
[02:12] <scientus> how do i test what speed my connection is to the internet via command line?
[02:12] <scientus> i eman lan
[02:12] <to1> thanks ubottu
[02:12] <Winkie> scientus: ethtool / mii-tool
[02:12] <rww> to1: beryl is called compiz/compiz fusion now :)
[02:12] <CardiacKid> so if I wanted remote access to the ubuntu box, I couldn't use Remote Desktop?
[02:12] <Ohmu> Can I just copy the files over sda3->sda1, then fiddle /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:13] <musictoto> CardiacKid: on windows you might want to use http://www.realvnc.com/ (free client download) or an open source client
[02:13] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, in a terminal change directories to where the .run file is located and type .. sudo ./<filename.run>
[02:13] <ldapqn> scientus you just wanna find if its a 100 mbps link or 10 mbps link, or do you want to find the actual download/upload rate?
[02:13] <amt2> Winkie, no I haven't. You would need to guide me through since I'm really no expert.
[02:13] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, without the <>'s
[02:13] <nuryfv>  /join #ubuntu-es
[02:13] <CardiacKid> Is there a way to do it without having to install anything on the machine remoting in?
[02:14] <Winkie> amt2: no problem, put your /etc/fstab on a paste site, make sure you remove any samba passwords
[02:14] <scientus> both i guess,
[02:14] <PassionFRUI7E> Hello.  I did sudo lshw -C netowork and my atheros driver is "UNCLAIMED".  I installed one of theirs using Windows Wireless Drivers and it didnt seem to do much.  Now what?
[02:14] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: well am not that of a smart person in linux and ave no idea what you are talking about
[02:14] <scientus> but yeah 10/100/1000 was what i was asking about
[02:14] <PassionFRUI7E> My ethernet works, thats how I'm on here now.
[02:14] <Winkie> scientus: install either 'ethtool' or 'mii-tool'
[02:14] <Winkie> either will tell you
[02:14] <DigitalFiz> 8.10 gonna be availible via update manager at midnight?
[02:14] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, you want to run/install a program ending in .run right?
[02:14] <amt2> Winkie, here is the file: http://pastebin.ca/1240217
[02:14] <rww> !isitout | DigitalFiz
[02:15] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: yes
[02:15] <PassionFRUI7E> Any smart guys want to help me?  I just got my video card working and I am LOVING linux =P
[02:15] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: according to ubuntu all i have to do is allow execution and then run it in terminal
[02:15] <Winkie> amt2: nothing wrong with that that i can see, i'm not sure if it will write to /var/log/messages but you should check that out
[02:16] <Winkie> PassionFRUI7E: ask any questions you have
[02:16] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: i have tried it but it doesnt seem to work
[02:16] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, ok.. go to Applications/Accessories/Terminal and  a new window will open .. kinda like a dos box.  Where is the file located ? on the desktop?
[02:16] <PassionFRUI7E> I did sudo lshw -C netowork and my atheros driver is "UNCLAIMED". I installed one of theirs using Windows Wireless Drivers and it didnt seem to do much. Now what?
[02:16] <Leppers> im running intrepid and im trying to configure a vpn connection via network connections but i  cant add a vpn
[02:16] <luddite> its release day - but no download availiable - any news there?
[02:16] <PassionFRUI7E> *netowork->network
[02:16] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: i know that what next
[02:16] <amt2> Winkie, I don't have a messages directory in /var/log
[02:16] <luddite> update?
[02:16] <Winkie> amt2: it should be a file
[02:16] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, change to the directory with the file..
[02:16] <amt2> oh...
[02:17] <CardiacKid> the issue is I don't want to have to install something on every machine I remote in with. My other machines will change frequently.
[02:17] <Winkie> PassionFRUI7E: i'm afraid i don't use wireless, so i wouldn't be able to help you
[02:17] <PassionFRUI7E> Winkie:  Thanks for trying.
[02:17] <galens> I'm having trouble switching ISOs to install a program. I started by using GMOUNT since I couldn't get daemon tools to work. It mounts okay, but it will NOT let me switch ISO during installation when prompted for a second cd, like daemon tools does. So I figured I could kill the program and do it that way. No, that didn't work, I ended up being forced to kill the setup.exe which ended the whole installation. I then tried mkdire fakecd, then
[02:17] <amt2> Winkie, would you like to see the log?
[02:17] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: thats the problem i dont know how to change directory, its on my desktop
[02:17] <Winkie> CardiacKid: it's probable that java applet VNC clients exist, in which case you could run a HTTP server on the machine
[02:17]  * Crashbit pa la cama!
[02:17] <Winkie> amt2: if you like, it should be relatively obvious if there are specific errors in there
[02:17] <galens> makedir*
[02:17] <galens> mkdir*
[02:18] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, ok.. type ... cd /home/<username>/Desktop or as  a short cut type ... ~/Desktop
[02:18] <firelovez> Oh how i missed Ubuntu no more windows on this laptop.
[02:18] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, what's the program?
[02:18] <amt2> Winkie, http://pastebin.ca/1240221
[02:18] <PassionFRUI7E> I did sudo lshw -C netowork and my atheros driver is "UNCLAIMED". I installed one of theirs using Windows Wireless Drivers and it didnt seem to do much.  Anybody here able to autodetect wifi?
[02:18] <CardiacKid> hmm. maybe biting off more than I can chew with that method. Is there a prefered VNC viewer for vista/XP?
[02:18] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: its the hp printer thing
[02:19] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, driver?
[02:19] <errpast> what should i use to burn my video movies to DVD, so i can play on dvd player
[02:19] <luddite> 8.10 release - When?
[02:19] <scunizi> Hoover_4000, k.. you in the right directory now?
[02:19] <Flannel> !isitout | luddite
[02:19] <Hoover_4000> scunizi: its a program available via hp for those using linuz
[02:20] <Winkie> amt2: yeah nothing obvious in there, is this an external drive?
[02:20] <scientus> how do i add a new user to smb?
[02:20] <luddite> Flannel - thanks
[02:20] <scientus> nvm
[02:20] <juaco> scientus: man smbpasswd
[02:20] <rww> Hoover_4000: hpijs or something? That's in the repositories; you don't need to install it manually.
[02:21] <amt2> Winkie, no, internal
[02:21] <scunizi> rww, glad you knew that
[02:21] <amt2> Winkie, the laptop has 2 drives by default
[02:21] <vekin4> anyone have luck with the compal jhl90 webcam?
[02:21] <Winkie> amt2: hmm, i didn't see the second internal drive in that file, that's not entirely a good thing
[02:21] <firelovez> noobie here looking for some help, in need of some good resportories anyone?
[02:21] <Winkie> amt2: show me the output of `ls /dev/sd*'
[02:21] <rww> scunizi: try sudo apt-get install hpijs. Heck, it may be installed aready; I think it's in the default Ubuntu install.
[02:21] <scunizi> firelovez, what are you looking for.
[02:21] <Flannel> firelovez: the default ones are good.  You may not need any more.
[02:22] <firelovez> lots of toys :-)
[02:22] <scunizi> rww.. that's for Hoover_4000 not me..
[02:22] <galens> ﻿I'm having trouble switching ISOs to install a program. I started by using GMOUNT since I couldn't get daemon tools to work. It mounts okay, but it will NOT let me switch ISO during installation when prompted for a second cd, like daemon tools does. So I figured I could kill the program and do it that way. No, that didn't work, I ended up being forced to kill the setup.exe which ended the whole installation. I then tried mkdir fakecd, th
[02:22] <KillerOrca> pastebin url/
[02:22] <rww> sorry, Hoover_4000, see what I just wrote to scunizi (sorry scunizi!)
[02:22] <firelovez> im on the cr of 8.10
[02:22] <amt2> Winkie, /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdb2  /dev/sdb5
[02:22]  * rww has a headache
[02:22] <Winkie> amt2: ah yes i see it now, i am apparently blind :)
[02:22] <rww> firelovez: 8.10 support discussion in #ubuntu+1 please, not here
[02:22] <Winkie> amt2: there's no obvious reason it shouldn't work, please try mounting it, and then running 'dmesg' and looking for errors at the end of that
[02:23] <KillerOrca> pastebin url?
[02:23] <amazon10x>  love u
[02:23] <firelovez> in need of a good irc client unless this pidgin is the way now
[02:23] <Winkie> i really have no idea where gnome would store the specific mount errors i'm afraid
[02:23] <Winkie> firelovez: irssi ;)
[02:23] <Flannel> firelovez: xchat
[02:23] <rww> !irc | firelovez
[02:23] <scunizi> firelovez, pidgin isn't a good irc client.. you have choices.. see above
[02:23] <firelovez> thank you sooo much
[02:23] <musictoto> firelovez: if you're a frequent Firefox user, you can install the ChatZilla plugin... works fine
[02:24] <peepsalot> firelovez, xchat for gui, weechat for console IMO
[02:24] <paul_muaddib> Has anyone here noticed ext3 corruption with the RC?
[02:24] <Flannel> paul_muaddib: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[02:24] <firelovez> k ima try x chat if i can remember that was my choice a few years ago
[02:24] <KillerOrca> got an apt0upgrade question but forgot the pastebin url
[02:24] <gumarti> please, is there any chat room about BIND9 especificaly?
[02:24] <firelovez> thanks all
[02:24] <scunizi> firelovez, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:24] <rww> !pastebin | KillerOrca
[02:25] <KillerOrca> rww: thx
[02:25] <amt2> Winkie, this is the only line with the word 'error': [  118.171397] npviewer.bin[6505]: segfault at 0 rip f6eb0cac rsp ff940e48 error 4
[02:26] <Winkie> amt2: i'm afraid i don't really know where to look for errors, you could try mounting it manually, but if you're in the appropriate group you should be able to mount it, it's worked before on the same user etc i assume?
[02:26] <jordancason> Hello has any one here set up postfix on ubuntu server
[02:26] <KillerOrca> ok, so I run sudo apt-get update and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64426/
[02:27] <amt2> Winkie, to mount it I'm just clicking on it under 'Places'. Is that how I should be doing it?
[02:27] <Winkie> amt2: i'm afraid i'm terrible at helping with ubuntu, as i understand it that should work, but I am a debian person so I mount everything manually :(
[02:27] <amt2> Winkie, yes, before i just did that and get the FIle Browser and was asble toe xplore the drive
[02:27] <rww> !postfix | jordancason
[02:27] <rww> if you're having specific problems, go ahead and detail them :)
[02:27] <musictoto> jordancason: see also #ubuntu-server
[02:28] <galens> ﻿I'm having trouble switching ISOs to install a program. I started by using GMOUNT since I couldn't get daemon tools to work. It mounts okay, but it will NOT let me switch ISO during installation when prompted for a second cd, like daemon tools does. So I figured I could kill the program and do it that way. No, that didn't work, I ended up being forced to kill the setup.exe which ended the whole installation. I then tried mkdir fakecd, th
[02:28] <amt2> Winkie, could it be that maybe I should boot into Windows, then restart, then back to Ubuntu? Sometimes I've gotten errors in the past where if Windows doesn't shut down correclty, then it's not able to mount it
[02:28] <P-Hell> KillerOrca: you have to get the GPG public key first: http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[02:29] <Winkie> amt2: ah, is it an ntfs drive?
[02:29] <KillerOrca> P-Hell: never had to before, don't see why now
[02:29] <amt2> Winkie, no idea but probably
[02:29] <Fezzler> My Ubuntu PC keeps asking me to restart?  Why?
[02:29] <Winkie> in that case yes, if you don't shut down properly in windows the drive will be marked as dirty
[02:29] <Winkie> Fezzler: probably because you have installed an updated kernel
[02:30] <amt2> Winkie, ok... let me go to windows and try to do it...
[02:30] <Fezzler> I recently installed network printer (Cups)
[02:30] <P-Hell> KillerOrca: well try with the key, you've got nothing to lose :P
[02:30] <amt2> Winkie, Although... when that's the case, I think it displays a different message than just 'unable to mount drive'
[02:30] <Fezzler> Winkie: So do I do a full shitdown?
[02:30] <KillerOrca> P-Hell: do I need to install anything to use his key?
[02:30] <Winkie> Fezzler: a normal reboot is fine
[02:30] <Fezzler> Winkie: Shutdown
[02:31] <Winkie> amt2: potentially, it's always worth trying it anyway
[02:31] <Fezzler> Winkie: That's what I'm saying.  Even after restart, it comes back and says restart
[02:31] <P-Hell> KillerOrca: no
[02:31] <Winkie> Fezzler: that's interesting, the reboot icon at the upper right or a specific message?
[02:32] <Fezzler> Winkie: Upper right blue arrows
[02:32] <Winkie> Fezzler: that's an interesting problem, i assume you've applied all the latest updates?
[02:32] <P-Hell> KillerOrca: it's all supposed to be installed already
[02:33] <Fezzler> Winkie: yup
[02:33] <KillerOrca> P-Hell: seems to have worked now, thanks, no idea why it decided to be all fickle
[02:33] <mistform> !paste
[02:34] <unique_> #ubuntu+1
[02:34] <unique_> connect #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <unique_> arrg
[02:35] <rww> unique_: try /join #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <Winkie> unique_: try /j #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <unique_> lol ty
[02:36] <KillerOrca> i'd like to run a program at startup but I'm not sure how to since it has no GUI frontend
[02:37] <Flannel> KillerOrca: At startup, or login?
[02:37] <KillerOrca> Flannel: I have it set to autologin so startup
[02:37] <Flannel> KillerOrca: What are you trying to start?
[02:38] <KillerOrca> Flannel: the ushare program for streaming to a 360
[02:38] <brmassa> is 8.10 available? no? and now? and now? .... i need it!
[02:38] <tbr281> what else can i use beside k3b to burn a video cd from .bin files?
[02:38] <Flannel> !isitout | brmassa
[02:38] <Flannel> KillerOrca: Is that a server sort of thing?
[02:38] <kiyiko> how many hours till 8.10?
[02:38] <Flannel> !isitout | kiyiko
[02:39] <human_> hi
[02:39] <amt2> Winkie, it's working now :)
[02:39] <nuevonuevo> i cant log out ubuntu when i click on quit it freezes!
[02:39] <human_>  i have a little problem
[02:39] <KillerOrca> Flannel: no, can be put on desktop, just commandline based is all
[02:39] <rww> human_: what is it :)?
[02:39] <kiyiko> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:39] <Flannel> KillerOrca: Alright, then you want it to start when you log in it sounds like.
[02:39] <Flannel> !sessions | KillerOrca
[02:39] <Flannel> !session
[02:39] <Winkie> amt2: excellent, make sure you shut down windows properly :)
[02:39] <mynous> vsftpd or proftpd which one is better/easier to setup?
[02:40] <KillerOrca> Flannel: I'll look at that, thanks
[02:40] <Flannel> mynous: What are you using them for?
[02:40] <mynous> transfering files from a remote server and possibly having a few others with access to do the same
[02:40] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Hey there, does anyone know how to actually add the text "times" in OpenOffice Math, rather than it being converted to the cross product symbol
[02:40] <human_> my girlfriend modifying some compiz settings, and when i m opening a new vindow, it's behind the actual vindow.
[02:40] <human_> clear? my eanglish is poor
[02:41] <Flannel> mynous: sftp is much easier to set up.  So if its a small group of people (instead of a public ftp or whatnot) then that's the easiest way.  just install openssh-server, and you're done.  (and make users for them)
[02:41] <Flannel> mynous: Note, this allows people to log in to regular shells on their account in addition to transferring files, etc.
[02:41] <mxweas> I have broadcom's wl driver installed for my wifi card but ifconfig and iwconfig show it as eth1. Is there anyway to make it show as a wifi network? I want to use airodump on it and airodump is complaining it cannot access the wireless card because its an ethernet adapter
[02:41] <Shawnc> Hey, does anyone know the package to fix this problem?: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[02:42] <Winkie> FreshUbuntuNoob: format the cell, set as text i believe
[02:42] <nuevonuevo> can someone explain why i cannot logout gnome???
[02:42] <Winkie> Shawnc: when do you get this problem?
[02:42] <Shawnc> im trying to get VNC to work :P
[02:42] <amt2> Winkie, if I am now trying to map a network drive using: sudo mount -t smbfs //smb.seas.upenn.edu/username /media/eniac, then I get ask for a password, I enter it, and then it's just hanging in there...
[02:42] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Winkie, ? Don't get you. I am talking about the OpenOffice Formula
[02:42] <Fezzler> Flannel: Q re gparted
[02:42] <mynous> Flannel: i have openssh-server running and im able to connect/download/upload on port 22, however i seem to be getting some conflict between rtorrent uploading on the server when i download via sftp
[02:42] <Winkie> FreshUbuntuNoob: oh sorry, wasn't paying attention :)
[02:42] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Winkie, ? Don't get you. I am talking about the OpenOffice Formula utility that allows you to insert equations
[02:42] <Winkie> FreshUbuntuNoob: yes i wasn't paying attention, i'm not sure, let me check
[02:42] <Shawnc> Winkie: im trying to get VNC to work.
[02:43] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Winkie, No problem. Thanks :)
[02:43] <CanadianLinux> With Intrepid Will FGLRX 3d Work????
[02:43] <Beta-guy> what potential problem would I run into if I get the 64 bite version instead of the 32 bit version?
[02:43] <Flannel> mynous: That's odd.  I can't see why that would happen, torrents usually use 6000+ level ports and stuff.
[02:43] <Winkie> amt2: i assume you can resolve smb.seas.upenn.edu, and you may need to use -o username=yourusernameontheremoteserver
[02:43] <CanadianLinux> With Intrepid Will FGLRX 3d Work????
[02:43] <Flannel> Beta-guy: proprietary stuff will be a little bit of a headache
[02:43] <Flannel> CanadianLinux: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support
[02:43] <rww> CanadianLinux: 1) you should be asking stuff like this in #ubuntu+1, 2) don't repeat yourself that often, 3) yes, i'm running it right now on Intrepid
[02:43] <CanadianLinux> ty
[02:43] <amt2> Winkie, how can I check if I resolve smb.seas.upenn.edu?
[02:44] <mynous> Flannel: i dont know why either, but on a 10Mb connection even if i limiti the ftp tarnsfer to 300KB the uploads drop to almost a dead stop
[02:44] <mxweas> I have broadcom's wl driver installed for my wifi card but ifconfig and iwconfig show it as eth1. Is there anyway to make it show as a wifi network? I want to use airodump on it and airodump is complaining it cannot access the wireless card because its an ethernet adapter
[02:44] <Fezzler> Flannel: You said to use gparted I needed to boot from LiveCD.  You me a gparted LiveCD not Ubuntu right?
[02:44] <billybigrigger> hi all i have a quick question, how is vmware for gaming? ie can i play red alert 3 on my xp guest?
[02:44] <Winkie> amt2: ping smb.seas.upenn.edu? i think it uses dns lookup rather than netbios, can't be sure
[02:44] <Flannel> Fezzler: Any CD that has gparted on it.  Whether its the Gparted one, or the Ubuntu one.
[02:44] <w3rd_> dude who is the best webhost?
[02:44] <mxweas> billybigrigger: things like directx and stuff don't work
[02:44] <rww> !offtopic | w3rd_
[02:44] <billybigrigger> mxweas: ok thanks
[02:44] <mxweas> a lot of gfx things go wrong with vmware
[02:44] <amt2> Winkie, yea the ping looks good
[02:45] <mxweas> I have broadcom's wl driver installed for my wifi card but ifconfig and iwconfig show it as eth1. Is there anyway to make it show as a wifi network? I want to use airodump on it and airodump is complaining it cannot access the wireless card because its an ethernet adapter
[02:45] <Skry^> billybigrigger, try with wine or cedega
[02:45] <Fezzler> Flannel: But I can't do it from a running PC
[02:45] <Winkie> amt2: /username is the share right? you're not trying to put your username there?
[02:46] <Flannel> Fezzler: Well, the PC is running, just off of the CD not from the harddrive
[02:47] <Jonakmex> @find Hoy es un buen dia
[02:47] <mxweas> Anyone here good with wireless stuff
[02:47] <mxweas> ?
[02:47] <l43a24> wireless stuff
[02:47] <l43a24> regarding what :P
[02:47] <ptx0> o hai l43a24
[02:47] <ptx0> <= removed
[02:47] <diginux> what time does the new ubuntu come out?
[02:47] <l43a24> 1.3.3.7am
[02:48] <diginux> like what timezone?
[02:48] <diginux> hehe
[02:48] <ptx0> all over the place of course, di
[02:48] <ptx0> diginux
[02:48] <Flannel> !isitout | diginux
[02:48] <diginux> !isitout
[02:48] <ptx0> it can't be released in only in one tz
[02:48] <azoz> السلام عليكم
[02:48] <l43a24> go ask in the windows channel
[02:48] <amt2> Winkie, I put my username instead of 'username'
[02:48] <diginux> come one dudes, just give me a straight answer
[02:48] <egosintrick> the alpha has been out for awhile..
[02:48] <Beta-guy> Flannel: what kind of proprietary software you mean like precompile binaries?
[02:48] <Flannel> !sa | azoz
[02:48] <amt2> Winkie, what do you mean by the 'share'?
[02:48] <diginux> i want to celebrate
[02:48] <Winkie> amt2: but is that the name of the share, or is that just the username you're trying to log on with? if it's the latter you need to use -o username= i think
[02:48] <rww> diginux: we don't know. Go ask #ubuntu-release-party
[02:48] <Ohmu> to shift my ubuntu to another partition, can I just copy the files and fudge menu.lst?  I think I also need to make this new partition the 'primary' one -- do I ?  how?
[02:49] <diginux> ahh ok
[02:49] <Winkie> amt2: smb shares have names, also brb
[02:49] <diginux> thanks rww
[02:49] <chocohoof> hi all!
[02:49]  * l43a24 slaps ptx0 around a bit with a large trout
[02:49] <Flannel> Beta-guy: flash is the biggest one, since theres no 64bit version
[02:50] <Beta-guy> ah... ok 32 bit it is...
[02:50] <chocohoof> i have a problem can anyone help me?
[02:50] <scunizi> Ohmu, you mean the entire installation? or just /home
[02:50] <Flannel> !anyone | chocohoof
[02:50] <rww> Beta-guy: you can run flash in 64bit, though, it just goes through the 32bit emulation layer.
[02:50] <Skry^> Beta-guy, flash works in 64 bit
[02:50] <Ohmu> scunizi, the whole kaboodle
[02:50] <rww> Beta-guy: should work out of the box with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree (which has some extra dependencies in 64bit)
[02:51] <mxweas> l43a24: I have installed the wl driver from broadcom and it shows my wifi card as eth1 instead of a wifi card...
[02:51] <scunizi> Ohmu, I'd use partimage so you don't miss anything and then just put the image on the new partition.. after that you will probably have to reinstall grub
[02:51] <chocohoof> okay, so.. i installed 8.10 RC, and a windows XP
[02:51] <Skry^> Beta-guy, and precompiled binaries should also work if you have ia32-libs installed
[02:51] <mxweas> I want to use airodump to dump wifi packets but I cannot as it thinks I am trying to use an ethernet adapter...
[02:51] <scunizi> Ohmu, why are you moving it?
[02:51] <rww> !intrepid | chocohoof
[02:52] <Ohmu> scunizi, current one is too small.
[02:52] <human_> ok.  again. when i'm opening a vindow , or runing a program. the fresh vindow or program opening behind the active vindow. (compiz on, emerald on)
[02:52] <chocohoof> and i don't know how can i boot to the two different OS
[02:52] <scunizi> Ohmu, why not just make it largerr?
[02:52] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas, Why don't you ask at #aircrack-ng-dev ?
[02:52] <Beta-guy> ok thanks for the updates
[02:52] <mxweas> FreshUbuntuNoob: its a ubuntu problem
[02:52] <chocohoof> sry i'm a noob
[02:52] <mxweas> I cannot connect to wifi networks because of it
[02:52] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas, Are you using ndiswrapper?
[02:52] <mxweas> at least the gui fails
[02:52] <mxweas> no
[02:53] <mxweas> I am using the wl driver from broadcom
[02:53] <FloodBot1> mxweas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <Shawnc> lol
[02:53] <Shawnc> wine crashed
[02:53] <mxweas> I do not want to use the ndiswrapper
[02:53] <scunizi> Ohmu, also if you /home is not in a different partition that's much easier to do.. that's where most of your data lives anywhy
[02:53] <scunizi> *anyway
[02:53] <Flannel> !separatehome | Ohmu
[02:53] <rww> Shawnc: It's such a good Windows copycat!
[02:54] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas, b43-fwcutter?
[02:54] <Ohmu> how do you guys know what to type into ubottu?
[02:54] <Shawnc> lol
[02:54] <Shawnc> i know
[02:54] <mxweas> tried that it didn't show my wifi card in iwconfig
[02:54] <Shawnc> can't run alota stuff
[02:54] <Shawnc> =[
[02:54] <Shawnc> nd i relize u were being sarcastic lol
[02:54] <tritium> !enter | Shawnc
[02:54] <mxweas> I am using a driver from broadcom's site
[02:54] <mxweas> it's called wl, thats all I know
[02:54] <billybigrigger> how do i change the defualt .torrent app?
[02:54] <mxweas> I downloaded it from broadcom and compiled it then took the ko file and added it to my modules, etc.
[02:55] <billybigrigger> says i dont have the associated helper program, but i have deluge installed i think i removed transmission and now it won't pick up on deluge
[02:55] <DeathWolf> hello all, I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28hda%29 but I'm stuck because /proc/asound/cards says no sound card, even after installing alsa and rebooting
[02:55] <DeathWolf> no mention of snd* in dmesg either
[02:55] <DeathWolf> as for lsmod, it shows many modules loaded
[02:55] <chocohoof> how can i boot to different OS?
[02:55] <DeathWolf> snd                    81864  9 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[02:56] <rww> !grub | chocohoof
[02:56] <rjonesx> when I start up / login, the desktop background loads but nothing else does and I get an error message that is removed off screen and impossible to move so that I can read it - none of the gnome panels open and I cant right click... however, if when logging in I choose Options > Change Session > GNOME, it works fine - any ideas? Also, it always fails no matter what I choose if the laptop isnt plugged in...
[02:56] <mxweas> FreshUbuntuNoob: any ideas?
[02:56] <chocohoof> thx
[02:56] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas, Hold on, googling for that problem
[02:56] <mxweas> thanks
[02:57] <billybigrigger> how do i change the program associated with torrents?
[02:57] <mxweas> I've been googling all day with no avail.
[02:57] <j1mc> billybigrigger: right-click on a torrent file, select properties, and then select "Open With."  choose the program that you want to use.
[02:57] <j1mc> that should do it
[02:57] <rjonesx> is there a default key shortcut to open a terminal?
[02:58] <scunizi> alt f2
[02:58] <DShepherd> rjonesx, not by default
[02:58] <rjonesx> poop
[02:59] <rjonesx> hmm, so how can I troubleshoot a start up problem - are errors logged somewhere that after restarting in a manner that it would work I could see what went wrong the last reboot?
[02:59] <genii> rjonesx: Usually /var/log/messages is useful
[02:59] <wkds> Does anyone know how to fix a "IsCallerPrivileged() failed" error when I plug in external usb media?
[03:00] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas, Sorry, I have no clue
[03:00] <DeathWolf> also lspci -v shows:
[03:00] <DeathWolf>         Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[03:01] <FreshUbuntuNoob> rjonesx, /var/log ? Look for the specific application
[03:01] <DeathWolf> this is making no sense
[03:01] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: Find anything?
[03:01] <mxweas_> I lost my internet so I wasn't sure if you said something while I was disconnected.
[03:01] <amt2> Winkie, are you back?
[03:01] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, Nope, Sorry couldn't
[03:01] <mxweas_> damn, thanks anyway
[03:01] <Winkie> amt2: i'm around, a little busy but i'll try and help out :)
[03:02] <amt2> Winkie, I tried sudo mount -t smbfs //smb.seas.upenn.edu/ -o username=myusername /media/eniac'
[03:02] <amt2> and it still hagns
[03:02] <Winkie> amt2: it's probably a resolving issue, ping smb.seas.upenn.edu, then replace the name with the IP address
[03:03] <Winkie> 158.130.70.192 as i see it
[03:03] <rjonesx> on another note - my laptop is considering a Bluetooth USB Adapter as an HID device rather than HCI - any idea why this would happen and or how to fix it?
[03:03] <rjonesx> been working on this problem for nearly a month now...
[03:03] <Mark_Jones> Can anyone tell me if the Ubuntu RC on the website, thats not the final release right? Cause I tried it and its buggy.
[03:04] <duanedesign> final comes out tom
[03:04] <|Zippo|> anybody knows a IRC channel chatting about Windows Mobile?
[03:04] <jeeves_Moss> how do I team network cards?
[03:05] <Winkie> jeeves_Moss: 'team'?
[03:05] <Skry^> is ffmpeg avi support broken or is it just ubuntus build?
[03:05] <amt2> Winkie, tried 'sudo mount -t smbfs //158.130.70.192/ -o username=agustinm /media/eniac' and same
[03:05] <jeeves_Moss> winferno, on windows, you can team network cards together onto one IP to increase the bandwidth
[03:05] <l43a24> u mean bridge ?
[03:06] <duanedesign> the only bug I have had so far with ibex is when listening to mp3s in rhythmbox
[03:06] <genii> No, bonding
[03:06] <jeeves_Moss> sorry, wong term.
[03:06] <jeeves_Moss> *wrong
[03:06] <Mark_Jones> hope to god that brasero and k3b have working and reliable verify now.
[03:06] <genii> jeeves_Moss: Look into ifenslave package
[03:06] <chocohoof> um okay i restored my grub, but i don't understand in the documentation how can i choose the os i'd like to boot in?
[03:07] <jeeves_Moss> genii, is it a pain in the butt to get working?
[03:07] <genii> jeeves_Moss: Not too horrible
[03:07] <Winkie> amt2: I don't know what to advise you from here really, it's not my specialty
[03:07] <jeeves_Moss> genii, ok, thanks.  this box is used as a media server for the household, so it needs to have every advantage.
[03:08] <genii> jeeves_Moss: There's an old (for 6.10) but good tutorial here: http://www.howtoforge.com/network_bonding_ubuntu_6.10
[03:08] <human_> ok.  again. when i'm opening a vindow , or runing a program. the fresh vindow or program opening behind the active vindow. (compiz on, emerald on)
[03:08] <sidux> man.  just did a fresh install of 8.10--and no mouse or keyboard at login screen!
[03:08] <jeeves_Moss> genii, thanks.  that's even better
[03:08] <chocohoof> i have the same problem!!
[03:08] <amt2> Winkie, ok, thanks for all your help!
[03:09] <|Zippo|> genii: is it possible with wireless and wired ones?
[03:09] <seivan> Btw, if I got a mac mini, is there some way I can fix the video output, it looks ok, just the resolution. I got it hooked to a tv and It could do higher resolution with OS X but not with Xubuntu... it just says not supported. I take it it is using some form of lower drivers. IS there a solution to this?
[03:09] <sidux> chocohoof: you mean no keyboard or mouse?
[03:09] <chocohoof> yes
[03:09] <jeeves_Moss> genii, eventually, I'll upgrade to gigabit
[03:09] <duanedesign> brasero and k3b? been experiencing bugs
[03:09] <genii> |Zippo|: Yes. Any network interfaces you happen to have
[03:09] <sidux> chocohoof: wow.  and it took over an hour to install....!
[03:09] <qp>  when I uninstalled google toolbar in firefox, I found that search box is also dispear !  how let it  display again?
[03:09] <|Zippo|> genii: cool
[03:09] <sidux> chocohoof: you find a solution yet?
[03:09] <chocohoof> nope
[03:09] <|Zippo|> i'll try this
[03:09] <sidux> chocohoof: you've asked in here already?
[03:10] <chocohoof> no i found a solution to my other problem:D
[03:10] <jadams> I'm running intrepid.  Every ten minutes, my monitor dims.  This is not what it's set to do in power management
[03:10] <rww> jadams: Intrepid support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[03:11] <jadams> sorry, thought it got released
[03:11] <FreshUbuntuNoob> human_, Have you solved your focus problem?
[03:11] <sidux> anyone have a solution to the no-mouse-or-keyboard problem on Ibex?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Seems quiet :)
[03:11] <Flannel> sidux: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[03:11] <FreshUbuntuNoob> sidux, try #ubuntu+1 for Ibex
[03:11] <rww> qp: View -> Toolbars -> Customize..., and drag from there
[03:12] <binarymutant> is anyone getting seg faults with brasero?
[03:12] <chocohoof> #ubuntu+1, when first running at the login screen no keyboard nor mouse
[03:12] <chocohoof> any idea?
[03:13] <human_> FreshUbuntuNoob  no the problem is active now
[03:13] <Mark_Jones> I know one thing if Ubuntu isnt working properly Ill probably drop it and go to Debian Etch stable.
[03:13] <FreshUbuntuNoob> human_, Take a look at the Focus and Raising Settings tab under the General Options in Advanced Desktop Effect Settings
[03:13] <michal__> yo how do i get to the all about south park channel so i can watch the new episode???
[03:13] <human_> ok i'm trying
[03:13] <genii> !ot | michal__
[03:14] <FreshUbuntuNoob> human_, I don't know your setting, but my focus stealing prevention is at low
[03:14] <seivan> Btw, if I got a mac mini, is there some way I can fix the video output, it looks ok, just the resolution. I got it hooked to a tv and It could do higher resolution with OS X but not with Xubuntu... it just says not supported. I take it it is using some form of lower drivers. IS there a solution to this?
[03:14] <chrislx> Anyone using 8.10 on an acer aspire one?
[03:14] <erisco> does anyone else have problems with the ubuntu repos right now? I am getting loads of 404's
[03:14] <FreshUbuntuNoob> chrislx, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid support
[03:15] <chrislx> thanks
[03:15] <genii> seivan: There is a mac specific ubuntu channel   #ubuntu-powerpc     they may know more about it than in this channel
[03:15] <FreshUbuntuNoob> erisco, Depends on the mirror you have chosen. Wait for a while, and then retry.
[03:16] <human_> FreshUbuntuNoob thank you very much! i'm searching this feature 2 days :)
[03:16] <SupremeNerd> Ubuntu is an ancient African word which has a dual meaning namely "I can't configure Debian" and "Slackware is too hard for me"
[03:16] <Ascorbic_Acid> I installed Ubuntu as an application inside windows. Is it possible to add more GB's to my Ubuntu folder? THank you
[03:16]  * DaSkreech hands genii apple flavoured coffee
[03:16] <FreshUbuntuNoob> human_, Did you solve it?
[03:17] <ArrPirate> I reinstalled windows and now my grub menu is broken
[03:17] <BillHarris> part
[03:17] <genii> DaSkreech: I'm not sure how I feel about fruit in my coffee. But thanks
[03:17] <BillHarris> /quit/quit
[03:17] <human_> FreshUbuntuNoob yes
[03:17] <human_> :)
[03:17] <erisco> so is intrepid released at midnight or midday or what?
[03:17] <FreshUbuntuNoob> human_, No problem. Sorry couldn't help you any sooner
[03:17] <rww> erisco: We don't know. Go ask #ubuntu-release-party
[03:17] <Gun_Smoke> haha
[03:18] <ArrPirate> the grub menu thinks my linux partition is at hd0,3 but it's at hd0,1 and my windows partition is at hd0,3 but it thinks it's at hd0,1
[03:18] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Ascorbic_Acid, There is no direct way. However, there is an application written by the community that does allow you to perform that action
[03:18] <rww> Gun_Smoke: ;-)
[03:18] <mordib80> anyone here install 8.10 and do the nvidia driver only to have the fonts get HUGE after restarting computer??
[03:18] <ArrPirate> how can I fix that?
[03:18] <Flannel> mordib80: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[03:18] <human_> no problem you are Good
[03:18] <mordib80> got ya
[03:18] <Ascorbic_Acid> FreshUbuntuNoob: How is this possible... please can you tell me
[03:18] <Technoviking> 45/n
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Flannel: I want Jackalope help :)
[03:19] <Flannel> DaSkreech: #ubuntu+1 in about a month
[03:19] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Take a look at the WUBI FAQ at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20resize%20the%20virtual%20disks?, and more specifically, LVPM at http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[03:19] <CelsoLeite> When there will be a link to download the Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?
[03:19] <Appl3Kork> hey is there a command to make ubuntu passwordless?
[03:19] <Flannel> !isitout | CelsoLeite
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Flannel: How about Kranky Kangaroo? :)
[03:19] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: You can make it automatically log in.
[03:19] <Appl3Kork> I don't have gdm on so I was lookin for the command
[03:19] <Flannel> DaSkreech: Please keep this channel on topic
[03:19] <Appl3Kork> ya how do I do that?
[03:19] <Ascorbic_Acid> FreshUbuntuNoob: Thanks
[03:19] <FreshUbuntuNoob> A
[03:20] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Go to login screen setup
[03:20] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Ascorbic_Acid, No problem :). Glad to help
[03:20] <pavelk1> Whats best typing program for Linux?
[03:20] <Appl3Kork> but I don't have the gdm enabled, so it just looks like it would be DOS
[03:20] <DaSkreech> pavelk1: To learn how to type?
[03:20] <Appl3Kork> so is there a command?
[03:20] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: That's the terminal.  Why do you want it to log in automatically?
[03:20] <pavelk1> yes
[03:20] <Appl3Kork> I just want it to login to the computer, cause I'm using this machine as a server
[03:21] <CelsoLeite> Flannel, ubottu thks!
[03:21] <CelsoLeite> !isitout
[03:21] <Appl3Kork> cause it always asks for username/pass so I can't connect through ssh
[03:21] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Why do you want to log in to a server?
[03:21] <FreshUbuntuNoob> DaSkreech, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554333
[03:21] <Appl3Kork> no this machine is beecoming a server
[03:21] <Appl3Kork> just installed linux
[03:21] <Gun_Smoke> nice
[03:21] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: You can set up key baesd authentication to log in via ssh without passwords.
[03:21] <Appl3Kork> but everytime I turn on, it asks for user/pass
[03:21] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: But again, what do you hope to gain from having a server with a tty that automatically logs in?
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> Huge Problem:  I installed some 160+ updates, and now my screen goes black then white after login.
[03:22] <Gun_Smoke> gerrr.... trying to remember what file list shows the current release I have it was cat /some/thing
[03:22] <Appl3Kork> I just want to get the SSH solved so I can disconnect the keyboard/monitor/mouse and just have under desk
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> The ly reason I can type is because I selected the failsafe gnome terminal.on
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> Does this have to do with 8.10?
[03:23] <Flannel> PassionFRUI7E: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[03:23] <PassionFRUI7E> I never upgraded...
[03:23] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm on 8.04
[03:23] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Sure, log in, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:23] <Appl3Kork> ok so once I've turned it on and typed in user/pass I can connect to it through Putty
[03:23] <aidan_> Appl3Kork: set up a keychain on your desktop and use that public key on your server, thus when you try to ssh the server the authentication is against your ssh keys instead of a password dialog
[03:23] <boobsbr> hardy is not recognising my firewire external hard drive even though the firewire adapter is listed on lspci (00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394)), could someone help me please?
[03:23] <aidan_> there should be a guide for it already
[03:23] <Appl3Kork> I already installed SSH
[03:23] <chocohoof> had you found a solution to the keyboard/mice problem?
[03:24] <PassionFRUI7E> Has anybody heard of this problem?
[03:24] <FreshUbuntuNoob> chocohoof, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for intrepid support. Thank you
[03:24] <Appl3Kork> The computer With ubuntu on it... When I turn it on I have to type in the user/pass or I can't connect through SSH
[03:24] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Logging in locally has no affect on logging in remotely.
[03:24] <Gun_Smoke> nm.. it was cat /etc/debian_version
[03:24] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: that's entirely incorrect.  You've got some other problem going on.
[03:24] <Appl3Kork> well suck
[03:25] <amt2> i'm trying to mount a network drive using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, but I get a 'error 2 opening credential file ~/.smbcredentials' when i try to mount
[03:25] <chocohoof> okok thx
[03:25] <PassionFRUI7E> I can't login.   I get a black screen then white.  I can't see anything..I did CTR+SHIFT+T to open terminal and it runs.  My screen is just like layered over.  Also when I do CTR+ALT+BACKSPACE my desktop flickers.
[03:25] <starcannon> PassionFRUI7E cat /etc/lsb-release is the command your after to discover your distro
[03:25] <PassionFRUI7E> I know the terminal runs because I can get the resize curser
[03:25] <aidan_> Appl3Kork: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html <-- passwordless server login guide here
[03:25] <PassionFRUI7E> Run that after sudo?
[03:26] <Appl3Kork> k I'll try that
[03:26] <Appl3Kork> thanks
[03:26] <starcannon> nah don't need sudo for that command
[03:26] <starcannon> it just spits out your release info
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Ubuntu 8.04.1
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> hardy
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Of course, lol nm that.
[03:27] <duanedesign> keyboard mouse problem try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5964696#post5964696
[03:27] <PassionFRUI7E> I just got bombed with 160 system updates for no seeming reason.
[03:27] <starcannon> PassionFRUI7E sounds like vid card issues, what vid card you got in that thing?
[03:27] <PassionFRUI7E> So I installed them, reset, and boom.
[03:27] <PassionFRUI7E> I just installed my ati catalyst drivers today.  radeon hd3200
[03:28] <PassionFRUI7E> I just had everything but networking working and now this...
[03:28] <boobsbr> hardy is not recognising my firewire external hard drive even though the firewire adapter is listed on lspci (00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394)), could someone help me please?
[03:28] <DeathWolf> sigh, alsa not working is really a good way to go to insanity... The card is there, all mixers appear and are raised to the max
[03:28] <DeathWolf> yet no sound ever comes out
[03:28] <NetEcho> if I share a printer off a Windows XP machine how do I use it from Ubuntu?
[03:28] <starcannon> I'd almost bet money your vid driver is your bad egg, theres a nice help file here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:29] <PassionFRUI7E> I just got it working?  Should I reinstall?
[03:29] <tritium> NetEcho: if it's shared, it should be auto-detected.
[03:29] <NetEcho> how do I tell if it found it then?
[03:29] <PassionFRUI7E> The catalyst control center is running normally.
[03:29] <t-dub> Does anyone happen to know if there are any tricks to convinced a mergedFB dual display setup to go above 2040x768 on an ATI card?
[03:29] <woli> hi
[03:29] <duanedesign> The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. Users with the nVidia TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, GeForce2, GeForce3, and GeForce4 chipsets are affected and will be transitioned on upgrade to the free nv driver instead. This driver does not support 3D acceleration.
[03:29] <PassionFRUI7E> And I'm running ubuntu in 1400x900 right now.
[03:30] <NetEcho> tritium how do I find out if it found it?
[03:30] <tritium> NetEcho: System -> Adminisration -> Printing
[03:30] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm pretty sure it's fine.  But the failsafe gnome says something about startup scripts.  So are these my problem?
[03:30] <DaskreecH> Who was asking about typing programs ?
[03:30] <DaskreecH> Try Tuxtype
[03:30] <NetEcho> tritium nope doesn't see it
[03:31] <tritium> NetEcho: on the "Server Settings" tab, make sure "Show printers shared by other systems" is checked
[03:31] <starcannon> duandesign I just manually install with binary from nvidia.com
[03:31] <NetEcho> it is
[03:31] <starcannon> 3d and no issues tat way
[03:31] <Ohmu> All, I'd like to keep track of all my linux adventures (eg mounting HDD, making wifi access point, etc etc) on some blog type thing.  So it can help others, and remind me.  what's a good choice?
[03:31] <woli> if i connect two computers with an ethernet cable, would that enable me to transfer files between both?
[03:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Buy a webserver.
[03:31] <keinek> hi
[03:31] <PassionFRUI7E> godaddy.com I heard is incredible and feature-rich.
[03:31] <starcannon> Ohmu if you need a free one igoogle has a nice set up
[03:31] <genii> woli: Yes. Get a crossover cable and put static IP on both boxes
[03:31] <amt2> i'm trying to mount a network drive using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, but it just hangs after i do 'sudo mount -a'
[03:32] <t-dub> Ohmu: Blogger or typepad maybe?
[03:32] <starcannon> +1 to Blogger
[03:32] <Ohmu> ok thx
[03:32] <PassionFRUI7E> So anybody have experience with a black screen then white screen after logon?  I'm running the same machine right now but in failsafe gnome.
[03:32] <Appl3Kork> for some reason when I'm creating a smb.conf I can't fit all the text from this link?: http://rubbervir.us/projects/ubuntu_media_server/smb.txt
[03:32] <Shawnc> shawnc@Shawncs-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get purge tightvncserver
[03:32] <Shawnc> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:32] <Shawnc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:32] <Shawnc> how come it does that ^?
[03:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Is there any way to revert to before I installed these...160 updates?
[03:33] <starcannon> Shawnc is Synaptic Package Manager open?
[03:33] <Shawnc> nop
[03:33] <starcannon> update manager ?
[03:33] <t-dub> PassionFRUI7E: Yes.  My issue was related to running compiz and the wrong ATI driver
[03:33] <NetEcho> tritium its not showing up
[03:33] <Shawnc> oh
[03:33] <Shawnc> thats it
[03:33] <Shawnc> LOL
[03:33] <starcannon> :)
[03:33] <Shawnc> installing something in terminal
[03:34] <Shawnc> ^^
[03:34] <Shawnc> ty
[03:34] <tritium> NetEcho: you're running hardy?
[03:34] <starcannon> lol i've done it before to
[03:34] <NetEcho> tritium yea
[03:34] <Shawnc> lol
[03:34] <starcannon> have a beer and try again ;)
[03:34] <genii> Shawnc: Close everything else using the package system like synaptic or adept or the update manager
[03:34] <tritium> NetEcho: sounds like a windows-side error, imho
[03:34] <Shawnc> lol starcannon
[03:34] <tecnicodpc> lol
[03:34] <Appl3Kork> anyone know what it's not letting me paste all the code from that link?
[03:34] <NetEcho> tritium quite possibly, that machine is running XP home which has been known to have networking issues
[03:34] <mattgyver83> Ive been running ubuntu with gnome for a while now, but on my laptop its just too slow.  I have played with xfce before, by switching to that will i notice any significant changes, or compatibility issues?
[03:35] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, CTRL + SHIFT + V for paste into gnome-terminal
[03:35] <Appl3Kork> k I'll try that
[03:35] <dunnen_> mattgyver83, not really
[03:35] <tritium> NetEcho: I'm not sure how to advise you on that.  My wife shares the printer connected to her Mac, and it "just works" for me.
[03:35] <Appl3Kork> nope
[03:35] <Appl3Kork> it only pastes like the last part of the code
[03:36] <dunnen_> mattgyver83, you will notice a speed up if your computer is slow
[03:36] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Which site is this?
[03:36] <Appl3Kork> http://rubbervir.us/projects/ubuntu_media_server/smb.txt
[03:36] <NetEcho> tritium that would be because Apple knows how to properly network computers, same with linux
[03:36] <Appl3Kork> it's for setting up smb. I'm following this tut: http://rubbervir.us/projects/ubuntu_media_server/
[03:36] <mattgyver83> will there be compatibility issues with things like compiz?  or other applications?
[03:36] <tritium> NetEcho: :)
[03:37] <dunnen_> i dont think it has compiz if i remember correctly
[03:37] <starcannon> mattgyver I've been running Xubuntu for about 2 months now, so far I like it okay, but I do miss Gnome. Whats your laptop specs? CPU, RAM, Vid Card?
[03:37] <NetEcho> tritium it is my printer but unfortunatly its hooked up to my mother's machine
[03:37] <powertool08> I'm trying to setup icecast, I get this warning when I start it: WARNING: Cannot change server root unless running as root.
[03:37] <amt2> i'm trying to mount a network drive using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, but it just hangs after i do 'sudo mount -a'. I have successfully pinged the host. Any help would be appreciated
[03:37] <tritium> NetEcho: and her computer is on, and all that?
[03:37] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Are you trying to paste all that from a text file into a terminal?
[03:37] <tecnicodpc> lol
[03:37] <NetEcho> tritium yea I just shared the printer
[03:37] <NetEcho> brb I'm gonna go reboot it
[03:38] <powertool08> I'm starting it with sudo /etc/init.d/icecast2 start
[03:38] <Appl3Kork> yes Fresh
[03:38] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Are you pasting it inside "nano" or "pico" or similar text editor?
[03:38] <Appl3Kork> pico
[03:38] <Appl3Kork> sudo pico /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:38] <Appl3Kork> that's what I typed
[03:39] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Try to do it with gedit. Pico might not be able to handle it correctly
[03:39] <Guest78297> How do i mount an ntfs partion for read and write?
[03:39] <Shawnc> How come my remote desktop wont work?
[03:39] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf <= for gedit
[03:39] <Appl3Kork> ok I'll try that
[03:39] <Appl3Kork> thanks
[03:39] <starcannon> for gedit use : gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:39] <i0x83> hey guys im having a problem with my sd card, i finaly formatted it with ext3 and cant mount it ,getting EXT3-fs: Magic mismatch, very weird !
[03:39] <starcannon> what Fresh said lol
[03:40] <FreshUbuntuNoob> starcannon, gksu is an alias of gksudo isn't it?
[03:40] <i0x83> any ideas ?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Shawnc:  more details
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Shawnc: what are you trying to do exactly
[03:40] <Shawnc> like i click enable remote control and stuff
[03:40] <Shawnc> but it wont let me connect
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Shawvnc: you want to view another computer?
[03:40] <starcannon> aye either or, I typed it in slower than you , just wanted to be sure Appl didn't run it as sudo instead of gksu
[03:40] <scientus> how do i add a dns server via command line
[03:40] <scientus> network manager destroy my wired internet conenction cause it sucks
[03:40] <Appl3Kork> it says cannot open display
[03:40] <Shawnc> no
[03:40] <Shawnc> i wont to be able to go to my computer on my ipod :P
[03:41] <i0x83> well i just got an sd card 2G it was fat16 originally, was having problems formatting it ext3 , it would do it successfully but fdisk would still show it as fat16
[03:41] <Shawnc> i use VNC
[03:41] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, You don't have a GUI?
[03:41] <Shawnc> JAVAVNC
[03:41] <i0x83> so now somehow it worked fdisk shows it as Linux but i cant mount it and get EXT3-fs: Magic mismatch, very weird !
[03:41] <e-frame> how to view my usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0)
[03:41] <i0x83> in dmesg
[03:41] <Appl3Kork> well... the tutorial said to disable gdm, but now I'm lost.  Is there a way to re-enable gdm?
[03:42] <Guest78297> How do i mount an ntfs partion for read and write if you would be so kind?
[03:42] <duanedesign> in 8.10 rhythmbox crashes when I download podcasts in my feeds
[03:42] <starcannon> Appl3Kork sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:42] <Flannel> duanedesign: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[03:42] <i0x83> mount -t ntfs /dev/part*
[03:42] <duanedesign>   oops I thought that was were I was sorry:)
[03:42] <i0x83> any ideas guys ?
[03:43] <e-frame> how to view my usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0) any suggestion ?
[03:43] <Guest78297> thank you
[03:43] <starcannon> i0x83 flatten it out with gparted liveCD?
[03:43] <i0x83> what do u mean flatten it out ?
[03:43] <i0x83> ohh
[03:43] <starcannon> wipe the partition with gparted liveCD
[03:44] <i0x83> also i trid using dd ext3 image file onto sd card resulting in kernel panic
[03:44] <i0x83> ohh
[03:44] <i0x83> k let me try again
[03:44] <Shawnc> Im using JavaVNC to try to connect to my computer using System > Preferences > Remote Desktop but it doesn't seem to work, Can someone please help me.
[03:44] <secret901> I'm having trouble enabling Visual Effects. Whenever I choose it, it switches back to "None" and tell me that my graphics card won't work.
[03:45] <starcannon> i0x83 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:45] <starcannon> secret901 what graphics card is it?
[03:45] <mxweas_> how do you join a wifi network with iwconfig?
[03:46] <mxweas_> I don't have gdm installed anymore...
[03:46] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, Is it encrypted?
[03:46] <boobsbr> ubuntu hardy is not recognising my firewire external HD even though the firewire adapter is recognized and the modules are loaded. can anyone help me please?
[03:46] <mxweas_> at the moment no
[03:46] <secret901> starcannon:    Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:46] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: I fixed my wifi problems
[03:46] <mxweas_> installed it again and now it works :P
[03:46] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, Great. Congrats.
[03:46] <i0x83> guys are the ubuntu repos down ???
[03:46] <mxweas_> well it works unencrypted using gdm
[03:46] <Ascorbic_Acid> Who may tell me how to get Tux Paint into fullscreen? Thanks a lot!
[03:46] <mxweas_> but I want to connect sans gdm
[03:46] <mxweas_> then try it encrypted
[03:46] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, sudo iwlist "wlan0" scan <= gives you the list of active wireless routers
[03:47] <starcannon> secret901 hang on checking to see if you have to whiteist that one
[03:47] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: ah thx
[03:47] <i0x83> or is it just me ?
[03:47] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "You ESSID HERE" ap "Your router mac here"
[03:47] <e-frame> mxweas, to connect, ifconfig wlan0 (or whatever)  essid <name> key <key>
[03:47] <t-dub> Does anyone have any idea how to effectively get an ATI card to do dual monitors in hardy?
[03:47] <starcannon> i0x83 welcome to distro upgrade, it comes twice a year
[03:47] <Ubuntu> i0x83, probably preparing for the release
[03:47] <Shawnc> Im using JavaVNC to try to connect to my computer using System > Preferences > Remote Desktop but it doesn't seem to work, Can someone please help me?
[03:47] <starcannon> and it eats the bandwidth
[03:47] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: thx
[03:47] <secret901> starcannon: it's from an Ubuntu Dell
[03:47] <i0x83> gaah damn
[03:47] <ASTURIAS> Does anyone knows the WINE channel?
[03:47] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:47] <mxweas_> is it possible to change eth1 to wlan0 ?
[03:47] <i0x83> ill just use fdisk to wipe it
[03:47] <mxweas_> cause it shows as eth1 :P
[03:48] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, And, sudo dhclient "wlan0", if you have DHCP enabled. PS: remove all quation marks from "wlan0".
[03:48] <e-frame> mxweas iwconfig will show u the right device
[03:48] <Bangers> Is it possible to have a remote desktop sessions into ubuntu?  I own a copy of X-Win32 on my PC
[03:48] <glapp> Anyone here that run Ubuntu on Vmware on windows Vista? How did you install it? Is there a good guide somewhere on how to run Ubuntu on Vmware?
[03:49] <Bangers> so I was thinking of running a Virtual Gust OS on another PC and hook into it (with login screen etc) from my Windows box
[03:49] <e-frame> how to view my usb port type ? (usb 1.0 or 2.0) any suggestion ?
[03:49] <mxweas_> sudo iwconfig shows device or resource busy
[03:49] <FreshUbuntuNoob> ASTURIAS, #winehq
[03:49] <mxweas_> set failed on device eth1 ; Device or resource busy
[03:49] <starcannon> secret901 please open a terminal {applications}{accessories}{terminal} and type, glxinfo | grep direct and report back if it says "Yes"
[03:49] <Appl3Kork> does gedit come already installed on linux?
[03:49] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, On which command?
[03:49] <starcannon> or no
[03:49] <mxweas_> do I put quotes around the mac address & ssid?
[03:49] <starcannon> or whatever ;)
[03:49] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[03:49] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Yes, with GNOME
[03:49] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Ubuntu, yes.  But for a server, you'd be using nano.
[03:49] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, Yes please
[03:49] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: iwconfig eth1 essid "my network" ap "my mac address"
[03:49] <mxweas_> yeah I did
[03:50] <e-frame> mxweas can u see your device in ifconfig -a ?
[03:50] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, sudo that
[03:50] <mxweas_> do i put the colons in with the mac address?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> pawan: /topic
[03:50] <mxweas_> I did that too
[03:50] <Appl3Kork> well I just used the Ubuntu Desktop disc. I didn't have like a special server one or anything
[03:50] <e-frame> mxweas just type: sudo ifconfig eth1 essid <essid> key <key>
[03:50] <mxweas_> FreshUbuntuNoob: I did
[03:50] <mxweas_> e-frame: k
[03:50] <e-frame> mxweas then : sudo dhclient eth1
[03:51] <FreshUbuntuNoob> e-frame, It has no encrpytion
[03:51] <glapp> s tidkcr on my computer says Intel Celeron. on the ubutnu homepage it says Intel and then Celeron as 2 different alternatives. so i should choose celeron iguess?
[03:51] <ffej2ffej> I had a perfectly working UBUNTU workstation.  I used one ofthe built-in programs to change it to a LAMP server.  Now I have no GUI.  What's up?
[03:51] <mxweas_> I did sudo ifconfig eth1 up before I ran the iwconfig command on accident
[03:51] <e-frame> mxweas well then don't type the key
[03:51] <mxweas_> could that make the resource busy?
[03:51] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, yes
[03:51] <mxweas_> how do I pull it down?
[03:51] <mxweas_> and what is up vs down do?
[03:51] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mxweas_, sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[03:51] <secret901> starcannon: when I run compiz --replace I lose all the title bars in my windows
[03:52] <Appl3Kork> o I got gedit opened
[03:52] <mxweas_> sudo ifconfig eth1 essid "my network" says unknown host
[03:52] <mxweas_> I put quotes around it
[03:52] <starcannon> Appl3Kork is gedit not firing up? how about mousepad? wondering if you got Xubuntu without knowing it.
[03:52] <neeto> mxweas_: Are you trying to connect an ethernet device to a wireless device?
[03:52] <mxweas_> I pulled it down and iwconfig still says resource buusy
[03:52] <mxweas_> neeto: no
[03:53] <mxweas_> I setup my wifi driver
[03:53] <Flannel> ffej2ffej: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <mxweas_> and it shows my wifi card as eth1 and my ethernet port as eth0
[03:53] <e-frame> mxweas without "
[03:53] <Flannel> ffej2ffej: does it say its already installed?
[03:53] <matiu> How can I remove a half-configured package ?
[03:53] <boobsbr> ubuntu hardy is not recognising my firewire external HD even though the firewire adapter is recognized and the modules are loaded. can anyone help me please?
[03:53] <Flannel> ffej2ffej: Also, which built-in program?
[03:53] <starcannon> secret901  maybe try it with emerald as you decorator, sudo apt-get install emerald fusion-icon
[03:53] <neeto> mxweas_ try it without the quotes then
[03:53] <mxweas_> e-frame: unknown host again
[03:53] <i0x83> well i removed the partitions with fdisk created new one did mkfs.ext3 successfully from second time still cant mount get same thing wrong fs type
[03:53] <mxweas_> neeto: ^^^
[03:53] <i0x83> any ideas
[03:53] <voglster> whats the best way to copy a large number of files from one ubuntu box to another?
[03:53] <e-frame> mxweas iwlist eth1 scan
[03:53] <i0x83> dd the files
[03:54] <i0x83> well if its the whole disk
[03:54] <secret901> starcannon: doesn't Ubuntu come default with compiz after they've merged with each other?
[03:54] <mxweas_> e-frame: it shows two networks
[03:54] <mxweas_> the one I want to connect to
[03:54] <mxweas_> and one with an ssid of ""
[03:54] <starcannon> secret901 once those are installed run fusion-icon from the menu {applications}{system tools}{fusion-icon} then r-click the tray icon, choose emerald and compiz and reload from its drop down menu
[03:55] <starcannon> secret yep, if you want the cube you'll also need to download the settings manager sudo apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[03:55] <e-frame> mxweas_: choose the one with broadcasted essid
[03:55] <i0x83> something tells me this sd card does not want to be linux formatted
[03:55] <mxweas_> e-frame: how?
[03:55] <kronoman> hello
[03:55] <mxweas_> say the network name is mxweas and my wifi card is eth1
[03:55] <mxweas_> what should I type?
[03:55] <starcannon> secret901 it is also available from the fusion-icon dropdown menu
[03:55] <kronoman> I have a problem, I'm trying to move a file to one of my hard disks, but it keeps saying the disk is full. I erased already like 300 MB of data, and the file is about 5 MB
[03:55] <e-frame> mxweas_: example: sudo ifconfig eth1 essid mynetwork
[03:55] <mxweas_> k
[03:55] <mxweas_> let me try
[03:55] <secret901> starcannon: actually, I'm having problem in Ibex.  I had the same problem when I first installed hardy Heron but fixed it (I forgot how)
[03:55] <harriseldon> voglster is this a one-time copy? Are both computers on at the same time? By best do you mean fastest, easiest to run, etc?
[03:56] <starcannon> kronoman empty the trash?
[03:56] <abe3k> hi guys, when I want to install ubuntu from a bootable usb made by UNetbootin, it shows me the usb drive in the guided partitioner, how do I make it show me the harddisk instead ?
[03:56] <kronoman> I did it starcannon, even erased .Trash folder
[03:56] <mxweas_> e-frame: returns essid: Unknown host
[03:56] <kronoman> with rm -rf
[03:56] <DeathWolf> meh, oss works but is broken with sound in
[03:56] <ffej2ffej> Thanks large, Flannel!
[03:56] <starcannon> secret901 ack sorry, i'm of little or no use on beta stuff
[03:56] <selo> #zend-framework
[03:56] <i0x83> could the problem  be regarding the block size ?
[03:56] <selo> err
[03:56] <mxweas_> e-frame: the ssid has a . in it
[03:56] <mxweas_> I tried using \ to escape
[03:56] <starcannon> kronoman does system monitor show the available space on the drive?
[03:56] <mxweas_> still didn't work
[03:57] <voglster> harriseldon, both on sme time... both on same network.. i want to copy 30 gigs of oggs from one pc to the other... just a set and goto sleep kinda thing
[03:57] <kronoman> starcannon: you mean ksysguard?
[03:58] <bOrk3d> every time i look at porn winamp run under wine crashes my firefox
[03:58] <e-frame> mxweas_: i 'm sure there's a way to connect to an essid with such characters. gimme a second.
[03:58] <mxweas_> k, thx
[03:58] <i0x83> anybody guys ?
[03:59] <genii> e-frame: use quotes around the essid name?
[03:59] <kronoman> 0 free :(
[03:59] <harriseldon> voglster rsync (if it is periodic) would do it or even scp (if it is one time)
[03:59] <e-frame> mxweas_: try that
[03:59] <Ascorbic_Acid> Who may tell me how to get Tux Paint into fullscreen? Thanks a lot!
[03:59] <kronoman> /dev/hdb6             73094364  69650100         0 100% /media/hdb6
[03:59] <mxweas_> e-frame: try what?
[03:59] <kronoman> df says that
[03:59] <mxweas_> I tried with "
[03:59] <mxweas_> around it
[03:59] <mxweas_> no luck
[03:59] <Appl3Kork> in the tutorial it says to press Ctrl+X then Y then Enter, but I think the tutorial is a little old, and gedit doesn't know what I'm doing
[03:59] <i0x83> gaaah
[03:59] <e-frame> mxweas_: with quotes
[03:59] <voglster> harriseldon, one time... scp prolly gonna be best
[03:59] <i0x83> guys ?
[04:00] <mxweas_> e-frame: I tried with double and single quotes
[04:00] <curtmack> My keyboard model is set as IBM Rapid Access II, which is correct, there are three keys that don't work: volume up, next, and mute
[04:00] <mxweas_> still says unknown host
[04:00] <Appl3Kork> does anyone know what Ctrl+X then Y then Enter does?
[04:00] <mxweas_> it's almost an instant response
[04:00] <voglster> harriseldon, can scp copy directories?
[04:00] <mxweas_> doesn't appear to search or anything
[04:00] <starcannon> kronoman in a terminal type df that will show disk free space for all partitions
[04:00] <Appl3Kork> o wait nvm
[04:00] <kronoman> starcannon: /dev/hdb6             73094364  69650100         0 100% /media/hdb6
[04:00] <starcannon> ah lol someone beat me to it
[04:00] <harriseldon> voglester scp has a recursive mode just like cp. You can also preserve permissions (uid and gid)
[04:00] <thoreauputic> mxweas: try esacpeing the offending character with a backslash before it
[04:00] <rjonesx> any reason why a USB Bluetooth Adapter would be seen as HID v1.1 Mouse? rather than an HCI device?
[04:00] <starcannon> says free space 0
[04:01] <kronoman> the problem is, I erase files and keeps saying 0
[04:01] <kronoman> :(
[04:01] <thoreauputic> umm *escaping
[04:01] <starcannon> do a reboot krono?
[04:01] <abe3k> I need help please
[04:01] <kronoman> mmm, I will try that
[04:01] <kronoman> feels like W98 :P
[04:01] <rjonesx> dmesg says "new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd... configureation #1 chosen from 1 choice ... USB HID v1.11 Mouse
[04:01] <mxweas_> e-frame: I just got gdm up and running again and it connects, is there a way to see what gdm is doing?
[04:01] <harriseldon> kronoman you could just try unmounting the drive and remounting it
[04:01] <Awsoonn> are there any blockers for tomarrow? Is the release still a go for the 31st? (putting together hugday for today)
[04:01] <starcannon> kronoman lol, i haven't rebooted my laptop in over a month, 98 is nothing like that ;)
[04:02] <e-frame> mxweas_: u mean what the wireless device is doing (in gdm)?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> mxweas: ah sorry you already tried that... ignore me ;p
[04:02] <mxweas_> e-frame: no see how gdm is connecting
[04:02] <smm289> so what time do you think ibex will be released?
[04:03] <Flannel> !isitout | smm289
[04:03] <mxweas_> e-frame: nvm stupid question
[04:03] <thoreauputic> smm289: /topic
[04:03] <mxweas_> I figured it used ifconfig/iwconfig or something similar
[04:03] <mxweas_> but it probably uses the api that those binaries use
[04:03] <smm289> is there a command i can type to change rooms
[04:03] <Flannel> smm289: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:03] <starcannon> smm289 /join #room_name
[04:03] <erisco> I am unsatisfied with the number of ides I have tried. perhaps I need to consider paying for one.
[04:03] <smm289> thanks you
[04:04] <thoreauputic> smm289: /join #newchannel-name-here
[04:04] <rjonesx> any reason why a USB Bluetooth Adapter would be considered an HID Compliant Mouse rather than an HCI device?
[04:04] <smm289> ﻿/join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:04] <erisco> can anyone recommend non-free ides?
[04:04] <MoLE_> I have been having trouble connecting to a particular secure site - firefox, konqueror and wget all appear to hang.  Occurs with Hardy and Interpid.  Can anyone here confirm?  https://61.29.8.20/login.jsp
[04:04] <Flannel> smm289: No initial space
[04:04] <king_> hello, just want to ask if ubuntu 8.10 is already release, it says oct 30 but i check the website still not there.
[04:04] <Flannel> !isitout | king_
[04:04] <smm289> lol copy paste
[04:04] <smm289> ﻿/join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:04] <e-frame> mxweas_: many factor. h/w compatibility, xorg.conf, etc. or maybe u used instead of tty7
[04:04] <king_> ok thanks
[04:04] <smm289> hmmm
[04:04] <smm289> ﻿/join#ubuntu-release-party
[04:05] <mxweas_> e-frame: tty7 would work while tty1 wouldn't
[04:05] <mxweas_> gdm wasn't running when I attempted the ifconfig/iwconfig stuff
[04:05] <rjonesx> maybe 8.10 will fix my USB Bluetooth Adapter issues...
[04:05] <e-frame> mxweas_: yes, tty1 to 6 is console
[04:05] <mxweas_> I know
[04:05] <thoreauputic> smm289: umm, get a decent IRC client...
[04:05] <smm289> pms dont seem to be getting through
[04:05] <mxweas_> I was using tty1 when doing ifconfig stuff
[04:05] <e-frame> i believe there must be a way running desktop manager on other tty
[04:05] <e-frame> dunno
[04:05] <Flannel> smm289: Try clicking on the channel name : #ubuntu-release-party
[04:06] <mxweas_> when I run gdm it switches to tty7
[04:06] <mxweas_> and runs it
[04:06] <smm289> thoreau: using pigin, what would ya suggest
[04:06] <smm289> <---slightly nubish
[04:06] <mxweas_> oh you mean like run it on tty1 then see what it did?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> smm289: for GUI, xchat
[04:06] <thoreauputic> smm289: else irssi
[04:07] <starcannon> smm289 xchat is nice ;)
[04:07] <i0x83> guys is it even possible to format sd cards with something other then fat16 ?
[04:07] <Boohbah> canonical.com having network issues? ubuntuforums.org unreachable
[04:07] <e-frame> mxweas_: ucan see what the system is doing with: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:07] <thoreauputic> Boohbah: release frenzy
[04:07] <e-frame> cmiiw
[04:07] <starcannon> i0x83 I have my 16gb sdhc mmc cards formatted to ext3 in my asus eee's
[04:07] <Boohbah> thoreauputic: ahh that's right the ibex is released!
[04:07] <thoreauputic> not yet...
[04:07] <SentiniX> how to configure a server irc network?
[04:08] <rjonesx> will we be able to upgrade to 8.10 from the upgrade from the Upgrade manager?
[04:08] <mxweas_> e-frame: will that tell me how to use ifconfig/iwconfig to connect to wifi?
[04:08] <Boohbah> SentiniX: install an irc daemon
[04:08] <starcannon> i0x83 i used that gparted liveCD i linked earlier
[04:08] <Flannel> rjonesx: yes
[04:08] <Xpistos> Where would I find the "System/Administration/Shared Folders" selection in Hardy?
[04:08] <Xpistos> I need to change my Network for my SMB shares
[04:08] <IdahoEv>  WTF does an @ mean at the end of a permissions line, like -rw-r--r--@  ??
[04:08] <SentiniX> Boohbah priv8
[04:08] <e-frame> mxweas_ not tell u how, but tell u what's happened when u do something.
[04:08] <Appl3Kork> so when I boot up my computer when the keyboard and mouse aren't connected, it gives me keyboard error, and won't continue to load?
[04:08] <Boohbah> SentiniX: for example, freenode uses and ircd called dancer
[04:08] <rjonesx> i really hope they fix this bluetooth adapter thing - it is the last thing I can't get to work on my laptop :-( been 3 versions of ubuntu and no luck.
[04:09] <kilowhisky> hey guys what does -y make a difference at aptitude update
[04:09] <i0x83> is that what its called gparted livecd
[04:09] <Boohbah> SentiniX: if you want a private network then you can use password protection or IP access lists
[04:09] <i0x83> gonna try it out
[04:09] <starcannon> rjonesx which blu-tooth adapter you have?
[04:09] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Appl3Kork, Check your BIOS settings. There is usually a option there to turn off keyboard check
[04:09] <SentiniX> ok
[04:10] <Appl3Kork> ok
[04:10] <thoreauputic> kilowhisky: assumes yes to all questions
[04:10] <starcannon> i0x83 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:10] <kilowhisky> ohhh isee
[04:10] <powertool08> anyone know if mpd can play locally and stream at the same time?
[04:10] <i0x83> yup got it thanks will try in a min
[04:10] <SentiniX> Boohbah thanks!!! =)
[04:11] <thoreauputic> kilowhisky: not usually a good idea
[04:11] <kilowhisky> i see
[04:11] <SentiniX> and portuguese tutorial or spanish configure irc server
[04:11] <thoreauputic> kilowhisky: you normally want to see what it wants to do first :)
[04:11] <rjonesx> starcannon: insignia ns-btshd or something like that - it is insignia
[04:11] <kilowhisky> right
[04:11] <kilowhisky> hehe
[04:12] <Pretto> does anyone knows why Brazil is blacklisted?
[04:12] <rjonesx> insigniaNS-BTHDST
[04:12] <Boohbah> Pretto: probably because brazil sends lots of spam
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Pretto: because Brazilians are just too cool?
[04:12] <kilowhisky> their ladies are too hawt
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Pretto: and I'm sure they aren't :)
[04:12] <Flannel> Pretto: #ubuntu-ops is the place to go for those questions
[04:12] <thoreauputic> blacklisted I mean
[04:12] <Pretto> Flannel, thank you
[04:13] <rjonesx> starcannon: for some reason dmesg says that it is USB HID v1.11 keybord
[04:13] <rjonesx> after choosing "configuration #1 from 1 choice"
[04:13] <thoreauputic> blacklisting an entire country sounds implausible :)
[04:16] <redebr2818> é
[04:16] <redebr2818> até agora nada..
[04:16] <redebr2818> vo ter q esperar mesmo =/
[04:16] <Flannel> !br | redebr2818
[04:17] <redebr2818> ops.. sorry...
[04:18] <ChickenGirl> hi, I just got a kernel update and an xserver update, restarted my computer and now my resolution is shot and I can't fix it
[04:18] <obione> hey guys
[04:18] <Lonewolfnight> new install of 8.04 on a sony vaio laptop. Graphics keep coming up wild, dozens of mirror images. I can get x to run fine via a gentoo jail but no luck getting X to run correctly via ubuntu.
[04:18] <ChickenGirl> I tried reinstalling the nvidia driver with envy, no joy
[04:18] <Lonewolfnight> Intel video driver
[04:19] <ChickenGirl> I tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, only gave me keyboard layout options
[04:19] <Iradieh> Does anyone here know how to make a DIRECT duplicate of your linux for backup (settings etc) into as single file, I might screw up something and I want a good copy to reset :)
[04:19] <Flannel> !backup | Iradieh
[04:20] <Lonewolfnight> I had to use the alt install disk to get it to go in, No luck on getting graphics at any time via ubuntu
[04:20] <clearzen> Iradieh: tar cvpjf backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[04:20] <Lonewolfnight> I've used gentoo extensivly but this is new distro for me
[04:20] <ChickenGirl> I've also searched the forums, not found anything I haven't tried already
[04:20] <ChickenGirl> anyone?
[04:20] <Serraphyn> hi
[04:20] <Serraphyn> sorry I was afk
[04:20] <Serraphyn> mt
[04:20] <Iradieh> clearzen: what about proc and opt
[04:21] <obione> I just recorded several files (parts of a film) with a capture tv card.   But I am try?
[04:21] <Iradieh> clearzen: and that doesnt make it into a single img that I can insert and reset :) does it?
[04:21] <Iradieh> !cloning
[04:21] <ChickenGirl> anyone...?
[04:21] <clearzen> it's a tar package I didn't read your question well I guess
[04:22] <Roky> does anyone know what time 8.10 will be released?
[04:22] <mynous> how do you hide directories on a per user basis in vsftpd
[04:23] <ChickenGirl> not even a "sorry, we don't know how to help you?"
[04:23] <obione> how can i edit videos AVI in uybuntu ?      avidemux does not show me image, just sound.  the files have 2.5 GB ...
[04:23] <obione> the image is a green square
[04:23] <ChickenGirl> guess I'm on universal ignore or something
[04:24] <DCPom> !attitude | ChickenGirl
[04:24] <foorilious> in ibex, I find that zsh is placing the cursor at the end of the line when I use up-arrow to recall the previous command.  How can I make it go back to putting the cursor at the end of the line?
[04:24] <Flannel> foorilious: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[04:24] <ChickenGirl> well, see, you could have SAID "sorry, you've stumped us" instead of ignoring me
[04:24] <ClearShot> hey all
[04:24] <Roky> hey clearshot
[04:25] <Flannel> ChickenGirl: Would you rather have 1355 people saying "No"?
[04:25] <Jacobbs> ChickenGirl, sorry you've stumped us.
[04:25] <ClearShot> no just 1337 ppl
[04:25] <DCPom> there are thousands of questions asked here, not all of them have answers, and we don't need everyone apologizing
[04:25] <Roky> ^^
[04:25] <ChickenGirl> one person would be nice
[04:25] <Jacobbs> Well, you've stumped me
[04:25] <garryfre>  ChickenGirl I just got on, missed the question.
[04:25] <Jacobbs> I can't speak for everyone here :p
[04:25] <ChickenGirl> otherwise I don't know if anyone even *saw* what I said
[04:25] <ClearShot> i can lol
[04:26] <Flannel> ChickenGirl: Be assured people saw it.  If no one answers, no one can answer at the moment.  Repeat every 30 minutes or so, and search the forums, internets, etc.
[04:26] <DCPom> well pestering us isn't the only answer, try at another time, different people are on at different times, maybe someone else has your answer
[04:26] <ptx0> ChickenGirl == female?
[04:26] <Jacobbs> False
[04:26] <ptx0> oh
[04:26] <DCPom> ptx0, no girls on internet. google it
[04:26]  * ptx0 was going to help, too :(
[04:26] <Iradieh> !backup
[04:26] <ChickenGirl> would someone with a Y chromosome use the name "ChickenGirl"?
[04:26] <Flannel> ptx0, DCPom: Please keep it on topic.
[04:27] <DCPom> ;) sorry Flannel
[04:27] <ptx0> Flannel, aw, you wet blanket..
[04:27] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, in life as in the internet you don't always get anwers, besides a general question like, I don't gets video, help me please does not give enough information.  Try stating Version, and relevant hardware information like video card and type.  Also explain abit of what you have tried.
[04:27] <mech> thereis release a 8.10? on calendar 30!
[04:27] <Flannel> !isitout | mech
[04:28] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, a lot of boys would use a female name to get themselves attension.
[04:28] <ClearShot> serraphyn theyd use different names
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Flannel: I don't think that factoid should be encouraging people to ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:29] <Roky> Anybody know what time 8.10 is being released like at midnight or sometime the 30th?
[04:29] <Serraphyn> ClearShot, you would be suprised at what some guys will use
[04:29] <Flannel> !isitout | Roky
[04:29] <billybigrigger> Roky: just sit here and wait
[04:29] <Flannel> Serraphyn, ClearShot: mind taking this conversation elsewhere? thanks
[04:29] <ORdie> !isitout
[04:30] <ORdie> !isitout | ORdie
[04:31] <ClearShot> Flannel: where you from
[04:31] <ClearShot> jw
[04:31] <Serraphyn> So ChickenGirl what problem are you having? Version? Video Card?
[04:31] <bloopletech> YES! I FINALLY downgraded PHP 5.2 to 5.1 on hardy
[04:31] <Appl3Kork> hey on this tutorial: http://rubbervir.us/projects/ubuntu_media_server/part2.html I'm on step 4 and I don't know how to set the password or whatever
[04:31] <Flannel> ClearShot: This channel is for support, chatting is what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[04:31] <ezzieyguywuf> so the Document Viewer has issues printing multiple pages per page from pdf. is there some sort of backend that I can use to try to resolve this, or an alternative pdf viewer? does anyone else have the same issue?
[04:31] <ClearShot> d'accord
[04:31] <ChickenGirl> I got a kernel and xserver-xorg update and when I rebooted, it went into low graphics mode and I can't get it back
[04:32] <ChickenGirl> I ran envy-ng, didn't fix the resolution
[04:32] <inktri> hey kids when does 8.10 come out? what time zone?
[04:32] <ChickenGirl> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, only gave me keyboard layout options
[04:32] <FreshUbuntuNoob> !isitout | inktri
[04:32] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, video card?
[04:32] <inktri> !isitout
[04:32] <bOrk3d> i ran "sudo rm -rf /*" cause someone said it would update me to 8.10
[04:32] <bOrk3d> and now my computer wont boot
[04:32] <ClearShot> hahah
[04:33] <ChickenGirl> nvidia 7something
[04:33] <Appl3Kork> anyone know?
[04:33] <ChickenGirl> 7600 maybe?
[04:33] <ezzieyguywuf> hahaha
[04:33] <bloopletech> bOrk3d: seriously?
[04:33] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, if you did a kernel update, you might need to update the nvidia driver
[04:33] <ezzieyguywuf> bork3d: who told you to do that?
[04:33] <bOrk3d> naw, just thought it would get some laughs
[04:33] <bloopletech> bOrk3d: if so, you just made may day
[04:33] <bOrk3d> heh
[04:33] <ezzieyguywuf> lol
[04:33] <mauhur> hi
[04:33] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#After%20installing%20MySQL
[04:33] <bloopletech> bOrk3d: your punishment for that is to actually run the command
[04:33] <ChickenGirl> Serraphyn, the first thing I did was run envy-ng
[04:34] <bOrk3d> NOOO!!!
[04:34] <bOrk3d> actualy
[04:34] <ezzieyguywuf> has anyone here tried printing multiple pages per page from document viewer with a pdf file? it doesn't work properly and I need an alternative
[04:34] <bOrk3d> on the laptop sure, cause i want a fresh install
[04:34] <Flannel> !danger | bOrk3d
[04:34] <ClearShot> WARNING TO USERS LOOKING TO BUY A LAPTOP: DELL 1525N IS NOT RECOMMENDED
[04:34] <FreshUbuntuNoob> ezzieyguywuf, xpdf has been good to me
[04:34] <mistform> Winkie, i'm back :)
[04:34] <Roky> DELL WILL NEVER BE RECOMENDED
[04:34] <mauhur> my other partitions isn't on my desktop right after I log in, I have to click it first, how can I auto-mount them?
[04:34] <Roky> EVER
[04:34] <woli> what is the maximum/average transfer rate between 2 computers conected through an ethernet cable?
[04:34] <omari> stuck with my ol faithful e1405
[04:35] <bd_> woli: do they have gigabit ethernet?
[04:35] <Appl3Kork> Flannel: it says ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[04:35] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, have you checked your xf86config file to see if its using proper driver?
[04:35] <rww> woli: depends on the specifications of the network cards
[04:35] <ezzieyguywuf> freshbuntunoob: xpdf uses some sort of command line interface for printing though. what is the actual command that it is using, cuz 'm sure i could just bypass xpdf and just run the print command from the command line, no?
[04:35] <FreshUbuntuNoob> !mount | mauhur
[04:35] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: Right, you need to set a password, etc.  Follow the instructions.
[04:35] <woli> well they are a couple of new lapps...
[04:35] <FreshUbuntuNoob> !fstab | mauhur
[04:35] <synth7> whats the real world experience dualbooting Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro alongside OS X? are there hardware issues, etc?
[04:35] <ChickenGirl> how do you get to the xf86config file?
[04:36] <mxweas__> I've had no problems
[04:36] <voglster> hmmm sudo bash -l ;-)
[04:36] <mxweas__> took quite a few tries to get it to behave but it worked
[04:36] <woli> rww:
[04:36] <mxweas__> the trickiest thing was getting grub to not take over windows and stuff
[04:36] <synth7> what wasnt behaving?
[04:36] <Flannel> ChickenGirl: we haven't used xfree forever.  Its Xorg now, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:36] <synth7> did you follow the guide(s) on the wiki?
[04:36] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, open terminal and type : cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv
[04:36] <Nick_Meister1> hello guys
[04:36] <Nick_Meister1> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop
[04:36] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, Does that give you anything back?
[04:36] <Nick_Meister1> and fedora
[04:37] <Nick_Meister1> but im having trouble
[04:37] <FriedPiggy> so no reccomendation for running it under a dell laptop then. hah thats good. im happy with that
[04:37] <Nick_Meister1> i have vista already installed
[04:37] <Roky> anyone know if I will have to many issues running an ati 4850 in ubuntu?
[04:37] <ChickenGirl> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[04:37] <ChickenGirl> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder26)  Thu Feb 14 18:13:41 PST 2008
[04:37] <ChickenGirl>     Driver         "nvidia"
[04:37] <Flannel> !paste | ChickenGirl
[04:37] <Nick_Meister1> and i want to install ubuntu on top of it.  But when i try to install it says size too small and i have 60 gigs free
[04:37] <Nick_Meister1> :(
[04:37] <FriedPiggy> mate of mine just bought a new dell laptop and im jealous so i'll be happy if some things like ubuntu dont work under it
[04:37] <woli> why would you do that to a computer Nick_Meister1
[04:37] <ChickenGirl> I know, but it was only three lines :p
[04:37] <kwtm> Hi!  Is there a reason cron doesn't run my crontab jobs?  (I tested crontab with some test jobs, and it didn't run.  The "ps -ef | grep cron" command shows that "cron" is running already (as root).
[04:37] <Appl3Kork> now it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:38] <Nick_Meister1> woli: cause it came installed with it
[04:38] <Winkie> mistform: hi, i'm playing some forza :)
[04:38] <Nick_Meister1> woli:  i want to keep vista but i want to use ubuntu too
[04:38] <mistform> where are my startup processes listed?
[04:38] <Nick_Meister1> so why am i having this problem and how do i fix this?
[04:38] <mistform> I need to remove some
[04:38] <Hate_Eternal> hsfmodem: Should I bother with the files on Dell's website or the ones on the Linuxant site?
[04:38] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, have you looked under System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution to see if you just need to reset your settings?
[04:39] <ChickenGirl> yes, the only options that are in there are 800x600 and 640x480
[04:39] <mistform> Nick_Meister1, you need to format part of your drive into a partition separate from Vista. You should have a guided partitioner on your LiveCD
[04:39] <Nick_Meister1> even fedora is giving me this problem
[04:39] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[04:39] <ClearShot> reinstall hardy, upgrade to ibex, get all updates and dont install compiz. problem solved
[04:39] <Nick_Meister1> yes i am trying to do that
[04:39] <Appl3Kork> Flannel: so if get this error: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:39] <Nick_Meister1> but it gives me this crappy size to small
[04:39] <Appl3Kork> now what
[04:39] <Nick_Meister1> error
[04:40] <Nick_Meister1> Too small size is the precise error
[04:40] <Xpistos> How do I change my network name in hardy
[04:40] <Winkie> mistform: depends what you mean by 'startup processes' :)
[04:40] <Serraphyn> thoreauputic, Thanks I was hoping there was a how to, as my xf86config comment shows I have not played with GUI linux much :)
[04:41] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, change it in /etc/hostname
[04:41] <Hate_Eternal> why do I have to turn my volume to above middle in order to hear any sound at all?
[04:41] <Serraphyn> Hate_Eternal, External amplifed speakers?
[04:42] <ClearShot> in volume controls, something is probably turned low
[04:42] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, try that link thoreauputic had given to you.  I'm low on brain cells tonight and this is kinda my first real run at helping, usually I'm lurking
[04:42] <mistform> Winkie, when I login it starts stuff like pidgin, tracker, gnome network manager, etc.
[04:42] <ClearShot> enable all of the controls
[04:42] <Hate_Eternal> everything is turned to max in that alsa program
[04:42] <mistform> I need to disable something, but I can't find it in System > Preferences > Session
[04:42] <Winkie> mistform: system > preferences > session
[04:42] <Winkie> oh
[04:42] <ClearShot> alsa and pulse audio sucks
[04:42] <Winkie> what are you trying to disable?
[04:42] <Nick_Meister1> so anyone any ideas>?
[04:42] <kwtm> Hi!  Anyone?  Any idea about why cron seems to be running but ignoring my crontab?
[04:42] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: that is for the computer name not the network I am trying to join
[04:43] <ChickenGirl> Serraphyn, I've got that link open, I'll try it but I'll have to continue the troubleshooting tomorrow, it's getting late
[04:43] <ClearShot> example; user@dell-desktop
[04:43] <Serraphyn> Sorry Xpistos, I miss understood
[04:43] <ChickenGirl> thanks for the help and for putting up with my crankiness :p
[04:43] <mistform> Winkie, motion, it turns my webcam into a security camera. whenever motion is detected it takes a picture
[04:43] <Xpistos> in Gutsy it was System/Admin.../Shared
[04:43] <Serraphyn> ChickenGirl, np hun, its just the interet
[04:43] <Winkie> mistform: are you sure it's per session, it could be a systemwide daemon
[04:43] <Winkie> check if you have the file /etc/init.d/motion
[04:43] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, what are you running now?
[04:44] <Hate_Eternal> I try to install the hsfmodem drivers (.tar) in Ubuntu, but everything gets denied?
[04:44] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: Hardy and this is for my Hardy server
[04:44] <mistform> Winkie, thats it, thank you. do I just delete it? I think its also listed in another document
[04:44] <ClearShot> hate; dell?
[04:44] <hwilde> how exactly is this channel logged to irclogs.ubuntu.com ?
[04:44] <kwtm> ubotu, testing. Am I transmitting?
[04:44] <Hate_Eternal> yes
[04:45] <ClearShot> 'Beam me up Scotty'
[04:45] <kwtm> ubottu, testing. Am I transmitting?
[04:45] <ezzieyguywuf> i need to print multiple pages per sheet of paper for a pdf file. I don't like how the Document Viewer does it, and xpdf uses lpr which as far as i can tell doesn't support this. any other suggestions?
[04:45] <Winkie> mistform: use update-rc.d to alter those preferences, although i think ubuntu has a GUI method for it
[04:45] <ClearShot> 'Transmitting'
[04:45] <mistform> rofl, i just opened the picture directory for my motion prog
[04:45] <hwilde> kwtm, can you hear me now
[04:45] <Winkie> mistform: i think 'update-rc.d -f motion remove'  will do it
[04:45] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, are you talking about the domain?
[04:45] <Winkie> you want to run `sudo /etc/init.d/motion stop` as well
[04:45] <Nick_Meister1> :(
[04:45] <zambaboo> guys has anyone gotten steam to work with codeweavers?
[04:46] <kwtm> hwilde: Ah, thank you for responding!  Just wanted to check if my messages were being blocked by the system, or everyone on this IRC channel was just ignoring me.
[04:46] <zambaboo> it installs and runs but the windows are invisible :/
[04:46] <kwtm> hwilde: Thanks for providing the answer to that question.
[04:46] <mistform> Winkie, I already killed the process. so I don't need to delete it in /etc/init.d/motion, I just need to 'update-rc.d -f motion remove'
[04:46] <kwtm> Bye all.
[04:46] <Hate_Eternal> why is this root keeping me from installing the modem drivers?!?
[04:46] <ClearShot> sudo
[04:46] <kiyiko> so i just updated to 8.10, but now ubuntu will not load the gui...its justblack screen, with text...what do i do?
[04:46] <zambaboo> damn that root!
[04:46] <Winkie> mistform: correct, /etc/init.d/motion is the script that is run, but it's actually run from other directories
[04:46] <roxan> !8.10 | kiyiko
[04:46] <Winkie> update-rc.d maintains these directories for you, it's a little complex to explain simply
[04:46] <gwark> i'm having trouble playing *.rm files.   Realplayer is jumpy, and totem is sound:OK, video:not showing up....   there IS a fix for it, i just cant find it. a lil help please? :)
[04:47] <roxan> kiyiko, you need to reconfigure x
[04:47] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: When I try to check my network/windows network/ ... it should have only my network "Olympus" and it has that and "workgroup"
[04:47] <kiyiko> how?
[04:47] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, workgroup is probably some windows system running on the same network.
[04:47] <roxan> !8.10 | kiyiko
[04:47]  * zenlunatic hugs #ubuntu
[04:48] <Hate_Eternal> I put in my password for su - root, but it fails to authenticate.
[04:48] <mistform> Winkie, I understand it, oddly. I've had to do a few different startup methods to get sound working and crap. it just says "start up these, here is where they are"
[04:48] <Flannel> Hate_Eternal: use sudo instead
[04:48] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: My ubuntu server is the only one listed under "Workgroup"
[04:48] <Serraphyn> Hate_Eternal, you should use sudo instead
[04:48] <Winkie> mistform: sorta yeah, you have different runlevels typically, but i believe ubuntu uses 'upstart' or similar which i am not too familiar with
[04:49]  * Hate_Eternal puts "Kick me" sign on Winkie's back.
[04:49] <tharguy> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10 and need to get my wireless working again
[04:49] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, guess I don't understand the problem
[04:49] <gwark> is there a way to fix jumpy playback of *.rm files in RealPlayer ?
[04:49] <Flannel> tharguy: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[04:49] <voss> Kde 4 has gotten too weird for me so I switched to gnome
[04:49] <roxan> !8.10 | tharguy
[04:49] <Flannel> Hate_Eternal: Please stop.  This channel is for support only, thanks.
[04:49] <Winkie> Hate_Eternal: :o
[04:49] <voss> thar what type of nic do you have?
[04:49] <ezzieyguywuf> is there an easy way in ubuntu to manually print to two sides? i.e. the program informs me when to remove and re-insert my paper? short of manually choosing to print just odds then just events etc..
[04:50] <carbon_monoxide> 8.10 release is still "coming soon" =[
[04:50] <carbon_monoxide> i wanna get my wireless works on my laptop
[04:50] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: not a major issue. Right Now I am having more problems getting the folders to share since it keeps telling me I don't have permissions, but I am the admin??? Oh well
[04:50] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, are you doing command line shares with sudo? or GUI?
[04:50] <Flannel> !isitout | carbon_monoxide
[04:50] <carbon_monoxide> will 8.10 have problem on Broadcom wireless chipsets?
[04:51] <Xpistos> gui
[04:51] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: GUI
[04:51] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: Still feeling my way through the terminal
[04:51] <voss> carbon I pulled my broadcom from my dell and replaced it with an Atheros super g
[04:51] <Flannel> carbon_monoxide: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid technical questions
[04:51] <carbon_monoxide> Flannel: i'm not asking "when will 8.10 be there" here.
[04:51] <carbon_monoxide> Flannel: but thanks for the bot tip =]
[04:52] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, I'm from the terminal days
[04:52] <Serraphyn> carbon_monoxide, I think the idea Flannel is trying to get across is that this is not the proper place to ask about pre-release issues
[04:52] <LF|Irssi> hi is it possible to zip something like /var/www  like this tar -cjf webbackup.tar.bz2 /var/www/   but have the webbackup.tar.bz2 go to my backup folder /media/disk/Website_Backups?
[04:52] <carbon_monoxide> Serraphyn: okay =]
[04:53] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: I would love to be able to do it from the command line. Let me ask you this. If my system has updates and I want to run the updates, what is the command line for it
[04:53] <carbon_monoxide> Serraphyn: how about asking for upgrading tips?
[04:53] <Flannel> carbon_monoxide: to intrepid?  #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <Serraphyn> Xpistos, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:54] <LF|Irssi> hi is it possible to zip something like /var/www  like this tar -cjf webbackup.tar.bz2 /var/www/   but have the webbackup.tar.bz2 go to my backup folder /media/disk/Website_Backups?
[04:54] <Xpistos> Serraphyn: Thank you sir!
[04:54] <frybye> hi all - how to install usb-fax-modem??
[04:55] <Winkie> LF|Irssi: just prepend the path to webbackup.tar.bz2
[04:55] <LF|Irssi> Winkie: like /media/disk_Website_Backups/webbackup.tar.bz2?
[04:56] <Winkie> LF|Irssi: i don't see why that wouldn't work?
[04:56] <LF|Irssi> oops /media/disk*
[04:56] <Serraphyn> LF|Irssi, or your could just add on ; mv webbackup.tar.bz2 /media/disk/Website_Backups
[04:56] <LF|Irssi> ok
[04:57] <phpstar> okeh
[04:57] <LF|Irssi> thanks guys ill try it again
[04:57] <dsmith_> yay!
[04:57] <dsmith_> 8.10 is released
[04:57] <phpstar> is it possible to create virtual users for open-ssh
[04:57] <limecat> does anyone know of a way to have an alarm / command be run at specific time, with the condition that it wake the computer from standby?
[04:57] <carbon_monoxide> dsmith_: cheers!
[04:57] <limecat> lol dsmith_
[04:58] <Flannel> dsmith_: Please don't do that.  If you want to wait for it, see #ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <Winkie> limecat: i believe that in standby you'd require your bios to do it, not 100% on that though
[04:58] <Saruji> is 8.10 availiable for download?!!!
[04:58] <dsmith_> *grin*
[04:58] <Flannel> !isitout | Saruji
[04:58] <Serraphyn> Limecat WInkie is right
[04:58] <Saruji> ah ok
[04:58] <Saruji> thnx
[04:58] <limecat> Winkie: im sure its "possible", as vista and XP can do wake up jobs, theyre just not very good :\
[04:58] <limecat> and my laptops bios is horrible, no wake up timer i dont think
[04:58] <Winkie> limecat: interesting, i believe there are different levels of standby but i'm not too familiar with them
[04:59] <phpstar> no one know :(
[04:59] <Serraphyn> phpstar, I didn't see your question what was it?
[04:59] <limecat> ive heard someone asking about putting their comp into S1 standby, but i never saw an answer other than "dont"
[04:59] <phpstar> is it possible to create virtual users for open-ssh
[05:00] <Winkie> limecat: indeed it appears that Windows standby is S1
[05:00] <Serraphyn> phpstar, like a seperate user list for just ssh?
[05:00] <zachary> limecat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
[05:00] <Lonewolfnight> limecat look into tuxonice
[05:00] <limecat> i suppose ill just keep the laptop out of standby, at least the job RUNS in linux, as opposed to vista where the job wakes the computer but forgets to run the job
[05:00] <LF|Irssi> Serraphyn: does this look right? tar -cjf webbackup.tar.bz2 /var/www/ ; mv webbackup.tar.bz2 /media/disk/Backup_Websites
[05:00] <phpstar> yes serraphyn
[05:00] <phpstar> seperate userlist
[05:01] <Serraphyn> LF|Irssi, should work
[05:01] <limecat> Lonewolfnight: thanks, i will :)
[05:01] <LF|Irssi> ok
[05:01] <phpstar> i hate creating local users
[05:02] <Serraphyn> phpstar, you can setup PAM to work with openssh
[05:03] <bruenig> being a phpstar is hardly something to brag about
[05:03] <limecat> Lonewolfnight: hibernate is not the goal--suspend-->scheduled alarm clock is the goal, but thanks :)
[05:03] <iCodeme> hay.. my first time here
[05:03] <rohan> is there any factoid of ubottu this time, for "It will be released before 12pm in Baker and Cook island" or something?
[05:03] <Lonewolfnight> oops sry misunderstood
[05:03] <phpstar> just like vsftpd ?? serraphyn
[05:03] <phpstar> its only nick :p
[05:04] <Appl3Kork> so um... I can't seem to find an option in my BIOS to not check for keyboard at POST. Does anyone know how I can disable that?
[05:04] <Flannel> !isitout | rohan
[05:04] <CITguy08> Anybody know where I can download the official DarkRoom theme? I don't want to upgrade to Intrepid.
[05:04] <Serraphyn> phpstar, I believe so, do a quick google for openssh server PAM Howto
[05:04] <megatog615> anyone know what the url will be for the intrepid torrents?
[05:04] <rohan> Flannel: hmm ok, the !isitout reply last year during 8.04 was better ;)
[05:04] <raevol> does anyone know the default background color for GDM in ubuntu? i changed it and want to change it back
[05:04] <iCodeme> sino nakagamit na ng intrepid Ibex?
[05:04] <Forbr4d3> !isitout
[05:04] <limecat> is there any particular reason not to run with intrepid RC and just update to final?
[05:05] <phpstar> thx serraphyn
[05:05] <Serraphyn> phpstar, np hun
[05:05] <limecat> esp seeing how hammered the servers are about to be?
[05:05] <sebsebseb> limecat:  the RC will update to final as long as you apply all updates
[05:05] <live_CD_user> I just made a backup image of a drive using dd. Can I md5sum the original drive, mount the img and md5sum the mounted image to reliably confirm they match. or will this not work, or is there a better way to confirm
[05:05] <raevol> nvm found it
[05:05] <limecat> sebsebseb: cool, thanks
[05:06] <sebsebseb> limecat: no problem
[05:07] <Marupa> Well, I found a bug in the RC installer...
[05:07] <limecat> Marupa: was it with the partitioner?
[05:07] <Serraphyn> Marupa, ubuntu forums has a bug tracker I believe, might check there and if its not there you can be the first to post it :)
[05:07] <Marupa> limecat: nope.  The migration tool.
[05:07] <thoreauputic> !bugs
[05:08] <genii> live_CD_user: I'm not sure if it's possible to run md5sum on something like /dev/sdx99 but you could try
[05:09] <Winkie> genii: it should be possible but slow
[05:09] <Winkie> live_CD_user: i'm not sure they would match, but yes it should be possible ^^
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Marupa: do a search on launchpad for 'ubiquity' bugs first, if this is the live CD installer
[05:09] <Winkie> oh actually not the mounted image, just the image itself
[05:10] <Marupa> If you set the migration tool to try and pull from the same partition as one that's being overwritten, rather than saying something like 'Oops, you can't do that', it just explodes.
[05:10] <gin0> are you need SEX ????? ..... Paris Hilton .. click here :: http://www.fotovacaciones.telefonica.com/catalogo.php?voto=1&codigo=WA0AA3&pagina=1
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Marupa: see above please
[05:10] <woody86> what would be a good foss program for .etd files?
[05:11] <error404notfound> why do some people prefer alternate CD to upgrade their systems from an old distro version to new one?
[05:11] <gin0> are you need SEX ????? ..... Paris Hilton .. click here :: http://www.fotovacaciones.telefonica.com/catalogo.php?voto=1&codigo=WA0AA3&pagina=1
[05:11] <sebsebseb> !alternate
[05:11] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: lack of bandwidth - the alternative CD has packages on it
[05:11] <guestguestnew> shouldn't ubuntu be available by now?
[05:11] <guestguestnew> 8.10
[05:12] <Flannel> !isitout | guestguestnew
[05:12] <ElbobLives> It's been delayed by 1h
[05:12] <sebsebseb> !alternate |  error404notfound
[05:12] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: hmmm, which packages?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: all the packages :)
[05:12] <Mixed432> I am installing firestarter, anyone knows if I should click on "start the firewall on dial-out"????
[05:12] <arash> what time will 8.10 be released?
[05:12] <Flannel> !isitout | arash
[05:12] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: that is all the packages for a default install
[05:12] <sebsebseb> Mixed432: firestarter why?
[05:13] <live_CD_user> genii: about how long would such a try take for a 60gb drive and 60gb image copy? (hours days week years?) and would and sha or crc be faster and just as likly to match or not match?
[05:13] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: ahan, and normal i386 doesn't contain those?
[05:13] <Mixed432> sebseb, when should "start the firewall on dial-out" should be clicked then???
[05:13] <sebsebseb> !firewall | Mixed432
[05:13] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  by default Ubuntu comes with a firewall I think iptables yes
[05:14] <sebsebseb> Mixed432: and so firestarter is not really needed by many people
[05:14] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: the Live CD installer just dumps the file  system to the hard drive, in simple terms
[05:14] <bOrk3d> how long till 8.10?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  also you should have  some sort of hardware firewall if you have a router you probably have one as part of that
[05:14] <Flannel> !isitout | bOrk3d
[05:14] <genii> live_CD_user: Speed depends on too many variables to call. But less than a day.As for sha or crc, no idea offhand.
[05:14] <bOrk3d> oh lol
[05:14] <bOrk3d> ment too
[05:14] <IbnDrupal> hmm..i'm having problems installing the vmhgfs module (vmware shared folders) because it update gcc to 4.2.4 but says the kernel was compiled using gcc-4.2.3
[05:14] <Appl3Kork> So I can't get the change password on mysql working?!  Can anyone help?  I keep getting a -bash error
[05:14] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: it has a few packages on it, but not many
[05:14] <genii> Holy netsplit Batman
[05:15] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: both cds contain the packages that come with the default install then what's the difference?
[05:15] <Mixed432> sebseb, I have a cable modem that connects to my linksys router but I would like to set up a firewall either way, how can I view the configuration of the firewall???  Since I supposedly don't need firestarter?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: no, the live CD is a filesystem (squashfs) - the alternative CD has .deb packages
[05:15] <IbnDrupal> anyone know how I can rebuild my compiler using latest gcc?
[05:16] <Serraphyn> Mixed432, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:16] <bdubnc> Stupid question everyone, does anyone know when 8.10 is going to be released today? Morning or afternoon?
[05:16] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: so what's the difference for a normal user?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: the live CD has the complete image already compressed by squashfs, the alternative CD has actual deb packages
[05:16] <Mixed432> lbnDrupal, you should probably go to a developer chat room, this chat room is mainly for the OS itself
[05:17] <danbh_intrepid> !isitout | bdubnc
[05:17] <Mixed432> Serraphyn, thanks!  so that's how a firewall is implemented in linux?  with iptables???
[05:17] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: it's just a completely different way to install the system - in practical terms the result is the same
[05:17] <bdubnc> ubottu:  sorry, thank!
[05:17] <Serraphyn> Mixed432, yes
[05:17] <sebsebseb> IbnDrupal:  try #linux
[05:18] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  yes that's a good idea learn about iptables
[05:18] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: on low spec machines, the alternative CD is a better idea because it is less demanding on resources
[05:18] <kc8pxy> heya all
[05:18] <Serraphyn> 99% of all problems are solved in Ubuntu Forums and Community Help :)
[05:18] <gub> heh
[05:19] <Mixed432> sebsebseb. that sounds very geeky but ill go read about it, thanks you and thank you Serraphyn
[05:19] <sebsebseb> Serraphyn:  and http://www.ubuntuguide.org :d
[05:19] <kc8pxy> how do i set up a bridge with the ethernet card and a tap device in the bridge?
[05:19] <glapp> Anyone here that run Ubuntu on Vmware on windows Vista? How did you install it? Is there a good guide somewhere on how to run Ubuntu on Vmware?
[05:19] <Guest37584> can any on help me configuring Atheros wifi for ubuntu 8.04
[05:19] <glapp> Anyone here that run Ubuntu on Vmware on windows Vista? How did you install it? Is there a good guide somewhere on how to run Ubuntu on Vmware?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  by default all ports are blocked in Linux I think basically.   unlike WIndows.  I can't really explain this to you properly, but you can get by nicelly by just using your routers firewall
[05:20] <sebsebseb> Mixed432: with Ubuntu
[05:20] <kc8pxy> glapp:  why vmware and not vobx?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !repeat | glapp
[05:20] <kc8pxy> vbox./
[05:20] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  in WIndows I would recommend a software firewall as well
[05:20] <sebsebseb> Mixed432: but Linux basically already has that built in iptables
[05:20] <Mixed432> sebsebseb, i dont use windows
[05:20] <CjMaster> Hello, is there any program to create star-trek like beaming effects?
[05:21] <sebsebseb> Mixed432:  yes  I was just using that as an example.  and if you read what I just put :D
[05:21] <Lonewolfnight> anyone have further thoughts on how I can overcome this problem discussed here on forums?
[05:21] <akio> hello
[05:21] <Lonewolfnight> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=903182
[05:21] <sebsebseb> CjMaster:  movie effects?  like 3D?
[05:21] <bdubnc> I can understand if glapp if you are utilizing Vmware, really the best thing to try Ubuntu and Vmware is to download a virtual appliance from vmware's site.
[05:21] <Serraphyn> Cjmaster: thats audio production software, might search google for a linux package that will help do that
[05:21] <kc8pxy> CjMaster:  video, or still images?
[05:21] <CjMaster> ...audio?
[05:21] <CjMaster> videa
[05:21] <CjMaster> video
[05:22] <akio> i want to know who recently bought a usb-wifi dongle that has a good driver support, i want a recent one....
[05:22] <sebsebseb> CjMaster | blender
[05:22] <CjMaster> Not 3d modles lol
[05:22] <sebsebseb> 2d?
[05:22] <Serraphyn> CjMaster, sorry thought you were asking for sound effects
[05:22] <sebsebseb> 2d stuff?
[05:22] <kc8pxy> CjMaster:  lives?  i know there are a few other editing projects.
[05:22] <sebsebseb> 2d video?
[05:22] <CjMaster> no... like stuff you capture on a camera.
[05:22] <CjMaster> uh, yea I reckon so.
[05:23] <CjMaster> I don't think my camera captures 3d :P
[05:23] <kc8pxy> akio:  usb  wifi dongle?  why a dongle?
[05:23] <sebsebseb> you want to play videos that have been recorded on your camera
[05:23] <sebsebseb> ?
[05:23] <ArtVandalae> Hey all, just wondering, are we going to be seeing a new default theme in Ibex? I haven't noticed anything
[05:23] <WhiteDiesel> how do set permissions for a shared mount?
[05:23] <CjMaster> No, I want to edit them to add a transporter beam effect.
[05:23] <sebsebseb> ArtVandalae:  nope it seems no major new theme for Ibex
[05:23] <sebsebseb> ,but of course you can get your own theme
[05:23] <akio> so i can just shove a power cord and the dongle into a machine and bam! ad-hoc networking!
[05:23] <CjMaster> common, don't tell me you've never watched star trek :P
[05:23] <ArtVandalae> WhiteDiesel, are you mounting a samba/cifs share?
[05:24] <WhiteDiesel> ArtVandalae: cifs share
[05:24] <sebsebseb> CjMaster:  2D editing yes?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> CjMaster: and no I don't watch Star Trek
[05:24] <CjMaster> Well, yea i guess.
[05:24] <CjMaster> hmm
[05:24] <sebsebseb> ok Synfig could be what your looking for
[05:24] <akio> kc8pxy: why would you say something unhelpful like that without info?
[05:24] <Serraphyn> CjMaster: http://jahshaka.org/ <-- something like that?
[05:25] <CjMaster> Well its where a character stands on a transporter pad and the character gets all glittery and disapears :P
[05:25] <KoN3533> hello world!
[05:25] <sebsebseb> Synfig 2d video creation program
[05:25] <wiatro> ho
[05:25] <wiatro> hi
[05:25] <ArtVandalae> WhiteDiesel, there are options that you can append to the mount command. e.g. -o umask=777, or uid=ArtVandalae,gid=ArtGroup
[05:25] <wiatro> how to change chanel
[05:25] <wiatro> ?
[05:25] <KoN3533> When is 8.10 released? Tonight at midnight or 1 day from now?
[05:25] <ArtVandalae> wiatro, what IRC client are you using? Usually a /join #channel works just fine
[05:25] <danbh_intrepid> !isitout | KoN3533
[05:25] <kc8pxy> akio:  because i was wondeing why someone would want a wifi dongle. i've come to hate dongles.
[05:25] <sebsebseb> koN3533:  oh lol  at people like you.   final whatever. just get it now
[05:25] <kc8pxy> of any sort.
[05:26] <sebsebseb> koN3533: you can upgrade Hardy right now to Intrepid Ibex stuff
[05:26] <wiatro> thanx ArtVandalae
[05:26] <Serraphyn> or just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a few days
[05:26] <Wal> !isitout
[05:26] <akio> kc8pxy: i had a zd1211 that i gave away, it worked beautifully
[05:26] <wiatro> XChat for Gnome
[05:26] <CjMaster> Oh guys I g2g... -.- Thanks for help!
[05:26] <sebsebseb> koN3533:  but yes  the ISO's for Intrepid Ibex should be available later
[05:26] <akio> but its a fossil
[05:26] <KoN3533> sebsebseb, great thanks
[05:26] <FAJ> hi what filesystem is the most compatible between a windows and ubuntu computer?  I am going to format a usb drive, and want a filesystem that will work equally well on both, without the need for more setup
[05:27] <WhiteDiesel> ArtVandalae:  would the full command be -o unmask=777 <mounted folder name>
[05:27] <akio> !isitout | akio
[05:27] <Serraphyn> FAJ. Fat32
[05:27] <ArtVandalae> WhiteDiesel, yes, but not UNmask... Umask
[05:27] <kc8pxy> <shameless plug> you gave it away to yoru local freegeek, right??:) </shameless plug> :)
[05:27] <FAJ> Serraphyn: ok thank you.
[05:27] <sebsebseb> FAJ:  Windows can  use the Linux Ext3 file system if you put a driver on for that.  Ubuntu  can read and write to Windows NTFS no problem.
[05:27] <FAJ> sebsebseb: what would you suggest for the least amount of hassles?
[05:27] <sebsebseb> FAJ: which version of Windows?
[05:28] <kc8pxy> sebsebseb:  feasible ext3 on windows, advisable??  not by me.
[05:28] <FAJ> sebsebseb:  xp and vista :( unfortunately
[05:28] <Cameron> FAJ: for least amount of hassels, don't use a computer at all
[05:28] <Serraphyn> FAJ: Depends on version of windows but all can read Fat32 without modifications to either OS
[05:28] <FAJ> Serraphyn: ok so fat32 would be the 'best'
[05:28] <egosintrick> Mixed to actually answer your question- no you do not need to check that it
[05:28] <ArtVandalae> kc8pxy, yes, you can I've done it before, and I've transferred TBs of data, and it works just fine.
[05:28] <Serraphyn> FAJ, IMO yes
[05:28] <FAJ> ok
[05:28] <KoN3533> sebsebseb, how do I auto-update to Ibex from hardy?
[05:28] <sebsebseb> kc8pxy: well in XP  the   driver for Ext3 works well the standard one   http://www.fs-driver.org ,but in Vista SP1 I had problems, but I found something else that seems to be similar that I haven't tried yet
[05:29] <sebsebseb> !update
[05:29] <mrpockets> dude
[05:29] <kc8pxy> ArtVandalae:  i've had troubles with bad shutdowns that borked my ext3
[05:29] <mrpockets> no one here is from WI
[05:29] <mrpockets> eh?
[05:29] <WhiteDiesel> ArtVandalae: bash: -o: command not found
[05:29] <ArtVandalae> kc8pxy, ah
[05:29] <egosintrick> I use firestarter just because it's cool to know where your hits are coming from
[05:29] <sebsebseb> FAJ:  what do you want to use Windows for and what do you want to use Ubuntu for?
[05:29] <ArtVandalae> WhiteDiesel, you need: mount //server/share /mnt/share -o ...
[05:30] <Mixed432>  firestarter is a frontend for iptables, I think that's how Ill start :-)
[05:30] <ArtVandalae> WhiteDiesel, sorry didn't fully understand your last comment
[05:30] <FAJ> sebsebseb:  ubuntu is my main computer, but i have some security stuff on it that i share with windows users
[05:30] <Serraphyn> >.<
[05:30] <Serraphyn> Mixed432, don't start with the GUI
[05:30] <Serraphyn> Mixed432, learn how the thing works first
[05:30] <Chris_Were> any news what time 8.10 is coming out?
[05:30] <kc8pxy> ArtVandalae:  IMHO, windows drivers are just made with  the "beat it agaist a steel door for an hour and it still works perfectly" mentality that most linux drivers are.
[05:31] <jscinoz> is there a difference between apt-p2p and debtorrent?
[05:31] <Serraphyn> Chris_Were, read TOpic
[05:31] <kc8pxy> s/just not/just/
[05:31] <Mixed432> Serraphyn, iptables is too geeky, I'm looking at the commands and dont even know what they do,
[05:31] <Flannel> !isitout | Chris_Were
[05:31] <Chris_Were> sorry
[05:32] <sebsebseb> FAJ:  security stuff such as?
[05:32] <Serraphyn> Mixed432, if that link is to much to understand, I'd suggest you back track and learn about firewalls before going much further
[05:32] <FAJ> sebsebseb:  well right now i am just having a hard time getting the usb to read....
[05:32] <FAJ> sebsebseb:  it's always nice to have... you know?  just for when you need it
[05:32] <[nix]-hack> can someone check this link for me so I know I'm not the only one that cant access it http://yp.shoutcast.com
[05:33] <Serraphyn> [nix]-hack, might ask in offtopic channel
[05:34] <[nix]-hack> Serraphyn, it has to do with ubuntu linux
[05:34] <kc8pxy> how do i set up a bridge with the ethernet card and a tap device in the bridge? i need to test some networking inside a vbox, and a nat device is not cutting it.
[05:34] <[nix]-hack> i need someone running ubuntu to see if they can go to that link
[05:35] <Serraphyn> [nix]-hack, have you tried from another machine or OS?
[05:35] <sebsebseb> FAJ:  whatever  file system the USB stick is using by default should be fine
[05:35] <thoreauputic> [nix]-hack: try classic.gclassic.shoutcast.com
[05:35] <soreau> [nix]-hack: Works here
[05:35] <thoreauputic> [nix]-hack: the url you gave is an alias for classic.gclassic.shoutcast.com
[05:36] <^Oink^> kc8pxy, so you want to set up an ethernet tap and sniff it in promiscuous mode?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> [nix]-hack: or try http://205.188.234.120
[05:36] <bdubnc> kc8pxy:  This is the site I followed to setup a tap device for virtualbox - http://spinczyk.net/blog/2008/03/05/setting-up-a-bridged-network-for-virtualbox-on-ubuntu-linux/
[05:36] <bdubnc> kc8pxy:  by the way, kb8tis here, lol
[05:37] <sebsebseb> KoN3533:   httpL//www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <voland> greeting you all
[05:37] <OsamaK> When will Ubuntu 8.10 available for download?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> !isitout
[05:38] <Serraphyn> OMG can people on read the channel TOPIC nowdays?
[05:38] <pwnedulongtime> bahaha
[05:38] <dft> not only do you have to spoon feed ppl these days you have to read to them too
[05:38] <Stupendoussteve> OsamaK: You can download the RC, and upgrade when it comes out
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: they haven;t ever, if you ask me :)
[05:38] <^Oink^> kc8pxy, here's something else about that for use with Snort http://www.snort.org/archive-2-1524.html
[05:38] <^Oink^> kc8pxy, BTW, are you in Kansas City?
[05:38] <^Oink^> kc8pxy, here as well http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/passive_ethernet_tap.html
[05:38] <FloodBot2> ^Oink^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <OsamaK> Stupendoussteve: I do have the rc.
[05:38] <theUnBanned> hi
[05:39] <^Oink^> wtf, 3 lines in a minute is a flood?
[05:39] <OsamaK> hello
[05:39] <theUnBanned> would someone be so kind and ask in #remote-exploit why im banned ?
[05:39] <^Oink^> theUnBanned, Want to be banned here next?
[05:39] <Flannel> theUnBanned: /msg chanserv access #remote-exploit list, ask them yourself
[05:40] <guestguestnew> the secret link to 8.10 http://tinyurl.com/2lrx46
[05:40] <pwnedulongtime> theUnBanned: They said cuz you suck
[05:40] <^Oink^> theUnBanned, Actually I'm banned in there and I've never joined the channel. Obviously they have some silly bans in place and you aren't getting in there nor is anyone else
[05:41] <Stupendoussteve> guestguestnew: Dude my favorite Rick Astley song, thanks for that :)
[05:41] <Serraphyn> Offtopic issues can be taken to the offtopic channel
[05:41] <Stupendoussteve> Maybe I should install the flash plugin
[05:41] <^Oink^> Serraphyn, interestingly, discussing offtopic issues is in itself offtopic.
[05:41] <lildonkey> what i have to do for change ubuntu version?
[05:42] <ziroday> !upgrade | lildonkey
[05:42] <^Oink^> !upgrade | lildonkey
[05:42] <Jane_> hi
[05:42] <lildonkey> just upgrade
[05:42] <Jane_> Anyone here run into problems with their USB microphone on Ubuntu?
[05:42] <^Oink^> !apt-get | lildonkey
[05:42] <lildonkey> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <iCodeMe> join #ubuntu-ph
[05:42] <^Oink^> lildonkey, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:42] <Serraphyn> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:42] <Serraphyn> Damn you Oink
[05:43] <^Oink^> Serraphyn, Please take all damn you's to the offtopic channel KTHX BAI
[05:43] <Jane_> Cause I plug in my microphone, it can record on Audacity, but I cant hear what I'm saying into the microphone through my headphone. How do you get the microphone playback working?
[05:44] <Wal> Sorry can you speak louder please?
[05:44] <GThunGte> Hi, I have a simple question but I can't figure it out properly..how do I disable this "launching (application name)" taskbar entry when I launch something?
[05:44] <lildonkey> what is update size?
[05:44] <Beta-guy> when 8.10 is released will it support the PS3?
[05:44] <Jane_> I bought a USB microphone and it sucks cause I cant get it to work with Skype
[05:44] <^Oink^> lildonkey, it will tell you how big it is before you begin and prompt you to continue.
[05:45] <^Oink^> lildonkey,  it varies from person to person
[05:45] <Serraphyn> Beta-guy, read topic please
[05:46] <Serraphyn> Jane_, saddly it helps to do some research on hardware before you purchase. I bought a lexmark printer bfore i realized it wouldn't work with linux
[05:47] <^Oink^> Serraphyn, Why is that sad? You should always plan your hardware with regard to your software for any operating system
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: his question is more specific - I think the answer is yes if the current release has a ps3 version
[05:47] <^Oink^> and Lexmrk sucks don't buy their stuff they use proprietary drivers
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Beta-guy: you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[05:47] <^Oink^> HP is usually pretty good about that though
[05:47] <GThunGte> Hi, I have a simple question but I can't figure it out properly..how do I disable this "launching (application name)" taskbar entry when I launch something?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Beta-guy: note that the architecture is not *officially* supported
[05:48] <mrpockets> how hard is it to remoet desktop to a Windows box?
[05:48] <Jane_> Good ol ubuntu . . .
[05:48] <thoreauputic> mrpockets: trivially easy if the win box has it enabled
[05:49] <Serraphyn> ^Oink^, I'd prefer you not refer or speak to me. and thoreauputic his question was referring to 8.10 and as stated its not out yet and should be discussed elsewhere
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: *cough* since I had an ananswer for him, I gave him a URL
[05:50] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> hey can someone help me
[05:50] <Cameron> is there any way to make the compiz static window switcher show on all screens.. its really annoying that is shows on the screen with the focused window, rather than the one with the mouse
[05:50] <MTecknology> anybody know anything about ubottu? I'm trying to use some of its plugins like the encyclopedia in my own bot. I tried setting the encyclopedia prefixChar to ! and the Encyclopedia prefixChar to @,  the bot ignores what the ! means. I'm trying to make the bot commands use @ and factoids use !
[05:50] <Serraphyn> thoreauputic, You can, I just prefer to follow channel rules and admin wishes
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: that's what "Ubuntu" is supposed to mean, yes?
[05:51] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> Can anyone help me with running .exe files? My friend told me it can be done, does anyone know how?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: I'm an op and I thought his question was reasonable
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: no biggy...
[05:51] <mrpockets> thoreauputic, it does
[05:51] <voland> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R, use wine package
[05:51] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> ?
[05:51] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> ok thanks,
[05:51] <aandaluz> what ist the best dock for you guys ?
[05:51] <nite_johnboy> If I download the RC version of Intrepid will their be that much difference between this and the Final release ? ?
[05:51] <aandaluz> cairo ?
[05:51] <aandaluz> awn ?
[05:52] <MTecknology> aandaluz: stalonetray
[05:52] <Serraphyn> thoreauputic, and thats your call as an admin do that, I just stay within the rules and help as I can within the confines of that
[05:52] <thoreauputic> mrpockets: Internet - Terminal Server Client I think
[05:52] <mrpockets> amazing
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Serraphyn: :) I wasn't complaining
[05:53] <mrpockets> oh
[05:53] <mrpockets> wow
[05:53] <mrpockets> yeah
[05:53] <thoreauputic> mrpockets: ah sorry there's also Remote Desktop
[05:53] <voland> try to google wine ubuntu
[05:53] <voland> you will get loads of links
[05:53] <mrpockets> nah, this works perfectly.
[05:53] <mrpockets> isnt that what the RDP in terminal server does?
[05:53] <Serraphyn> thoreauputic, I know, just felt the overwhelming need to explain myself to much...
[05:54] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> THANK YOU WHOEVER TOLD ME TO USE WINE!!!
[05:54] <MTecknology> !caps > PHr0Z3N_W4t3R
[05:54] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> ok
[05:54] <MTecknology> ;)
[05:54] <thoreauputic> mrpockets: yes, that's right
[05:54] <MTecknology> So, nobody here knows about ubottu's plugins?
[05:54] <MTecknology> dang
[05:54] <Flannel> MTecknology: Not in this channel.
[05:54] <thoreauputic> mrpockets: I wasn't sure if "Remote Desktop"  was an alternative - I only use Linux here
[05:54] <MTecknology> Flannel: where?
[05:55] <Flannel> MTecknology: -offtopic
[05:55] <voland> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R, here it is a link to ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[05:55] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> Ok thanks
[05:56] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> Does anyone know if ubuntu supports .ttf font files?
[05:56] <outbackwifi> !hi
[05:56] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> ﻿Does anyone know if ubuntu supports .ttf font files?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R: yes it does
[05:56] <outbackwifi> !fonts
[05:57] <voland> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R, нуы
[05:57] <voland> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R, sorry, yes
[05:57] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> Thanks again everyone, im terribly new to Ubuntu
[05:57] <PHr0Z3N_W4t3R> k well im out, ttyl.
[05:58] <voland> PHr0Z3N_W4t3R, feel free to learn
[05:58] <LuYu> is torrent.ubuntu.com an official site?
[05:59] <kevipapo> anyone on?
[05:59] <kevipapo> i need some help with my wifi chip
[05:59] <LuYu> and why is it that the official site only links to CD -- not DVD -- images?
[05:59] <kevipapo> I use a PowerBook G4
[05:59] <kevipapo> and just upgraded to 8.04 LTS today
[05:59] <freetown> LuYu, unless ubuntu.com's dns has been hacked...i'd say torrent.ubuntu.com is official
[05:59] <IbnDrupal> my vmware machine is not working because of an upgrade to gcc 4.2.4, does anyone know how i can downgrade to gcc 4.2.3
[05:59] <kevipapo> i had the wifi working fine on 7.10
[06:00] <LuYu> hahaha
[06:00] <LuYu> okay
[06:00] <LuYu> thats good enough for me
[06:00] <kevipapo> can anyone help?
[06:00] <kevipapo> ive been trying numerous methods of setting it up
[06:00] <LuYu> still, i wish there was a "download a dvd on bittorrent" link or something similar on the website
[06:00] <IbnDrupal> kevipapo, wifi is a pain....i got mine working after a lot of hardwork...
[06:00] <LuYu> what net card do you have?
[06:01] <gandalfcome> any idea what time ubuntu 8.10 is out?
[06:01] <outbackwifi> its an airport express prolly
[06:01] <kevipapo> yeah
[06:01] <kevipapo> broadcom 4306
[06:01] <kevipapo> i can get info if you need it
[06:02] <yhuang> kevipapo there should be a tut in the ubuntu forums on how to fix it for 8.04
[06:02] <thoreauputic> !b43
[06:02] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx
[06:02] <r3c0n> how can i obtain the ubuntu 8.04 with all the latest updates?
[06:02] <LuYu> kevipapo: ive never used broadcom netcards -- only bluetooth
[06:02] <yhuang> because i followed it and it worked
[06:02] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: you just need to install the firmware
[06:03] <LuYu> torrent.ubuntu.com
[06:03] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: that page ubottu gave will tell you
[06:03] <kevipapo> i tried installing the firmware using the bcm43xx-fwcutter thing
[06:03] <LuYu> there are DVD torrents on there
[06:03] <kevipapo> wl_apsta.o
[06:03] <kevipapo> i rebooted, but it still didn't work
[06:03] <ay^> are we now officially 8.10?
[06:03] <SaadSaeed> Hello, tried following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624644 to install wine, but nothing happens past step 1, Help.
[06:04] <mrpockets> so
[06:04] <mrpockets> like
[06:04] <mrpockets> 8.10 is out now right?
[06:04] <kevipapo> In System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[06:04] <kevipapo> i dont have the box checked for the chipset
[06:04] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: did you install the package for getting the firmware?
[06:04] <vox> ay^: look at topic
[06:04] <outbackwifi> mrpockets: everytime someone asks, the release time goes forward by 2 hrs
[06:04] <vox> mrpockets: look at the topic
[06:04] <kevipapo> and when i tried checking it, it doesnt
[06:04] <mrpockets> LOL
[06:04] <mrpockets> sry
[06:05] <kevipapo> thoreauputic: yes, the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[06:05] <kevipapo> it didnt fix it
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: did it complain, or did it install ?
[06:05] <kevipapo> it didn't complain
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: I have an iBook G4 and it worked perfectly...
[06:06] <kevipapo> gave info about the firmware and the extraction files
[06:06] <r3c0n> is there a way to download an iso with the latest updates?
[06:06] <kevipapo> *extracted files
[06:06] <kevipapo> would you like output of the install?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: hold on a sec, I might have another alternative for you
[06:06] <r3c0n> it would save me tremendous time on dl'ing updates
[06:06] <kevipapo> ok, thanks :)
[06:06] <BoltClock> hi, when i do a dist-upgrade once intrepid's out, new packages for my software also get installed automatically too right?
[06:06] <Flannel> r3c0n: iso for what?  8.04?
[06:06] <r3c0n> yes Flannel, sorry for not elaborating
[06:06] <gumara> What time 8.10 is out
[06:06] <Flannel> r3c0n: 8.04.2 will be out in a few months, and that'll have updated packages.
[06:07] <Flannel> !isitout | gumara
[06:07] <Flannel> r3c0n: every 6 months (offset by 3 months) there will be a point release.
[06:07] <r3c0n> Flannel: so if id ubuntu off the main page now, i get 8.04.1?
[06:07] <glapp> I have an image of Ubuntu, an ISO, how do i install that in vmware?
[06:07] <r3c0n> download*
[06:07] <glapp> shouldi unzip it? or jus clicka nd drag?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: http://debian.cafuego.net/dists/hardy-cafuego/broadcom/
[06:07] <Flannel> r3c0n: correct.
[06:08] <kevipapo> thanks, ill give that a look
[06:08] <Deflatarat> select the iso file as the cdrom
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: he has hardy debs of firmware there
[06:08] <r3c0n> ok good because fedora has something called spin-offs i thought ubuntu might be doing that
[06:08] <r3c0n> i like this better
[06:08] <r3c0n> :)
[06:08] <kevipapo> awesome, thanks :)
[06:08] <r3c0n> thanks for the help
[06:08] <kevipapo> and i install the package listed there to get it to work?
[06:08] <Flannel> r3c0n: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 has more information
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: yes, or enable his repo
[06:08] <kevipapo> ok
[06:09] <r3c0n> thanks, time to goto work
[06:09] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: I just looked for the relevant .deb when I did it last
[06:09] <r3c0n> later all
[06:09] <kevipapo> later r3c0n
[06:09] <kevipapo> thoreauputic: it would be the bcm43xx-firmware package?
[06:09] <fallore> sometimes the "shell" (file explorer or the taskbar or the shutdown function etc) of ubuntu just freezes up and stops working. it happens decently often, but i have no idea what's causing it. does anyone have any idea on what to do?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: b43 is better and more recnet
[06:10] <thoreauputic> *recent
[06:10] <kevipapo> but is it compatible?
[06:10] <guestguestnew> secret link to ubuntu 8.10 http://tinyurl.com/2lrx46
[06:10] <glapp> how do i install an ISO on vmware? i cant find any info about this.
[06:10] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: in hardy you want b43, not bcm43xx
[06:11] <kevipapo> ok
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: I also hae a 4306 and b43 works well
[06:11] <kevipapo> im giving it a shot
[06:11] <thoreauputic> *have
[06:11] <kevipapo> great
[06:11] <kevipapo> did you use this method?
[06:11] <yhuang> that was a cheap link
[06:11] <yhuang> nobody click it!
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: I used to use cafuego's stuff, but last time I used the cutter
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: but cafuego's stuff is fine
[06:12] <kevipapo> cool, guess i found the right guy :)
[06:12] <kevipapo> will this take a reboot?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> cafuego is a good guy :)
[06:12] <kevipapo> looks like you pointed me in the right direction!
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: I would just "sudo modprobe b43" I think
[06:12] <kevipapo> the hardware drivers application says that b43 is in use LD
[06:12] <kevipapo> :D
[06:13] <kevipapo> great help man :)
[06:13] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: :D
[06:13] <glapp> how do i install an ISO on vmware? i cant find any info about this.
[06:13] <kevipapo> im gonna do a restart
[06:13] <kevipapo> ill report back, hopefully without the wire :)
[06:14] <Deflatarat> glapp: go to cdrom tab in the vm config and select the iso file
[06:14] <thoreauputic> glapp: http://www.easyvmx.com/ to make a vmx to install to
[06:15]  * billybigrigger waits for ibex..
[06:15] <Flannel> !isitout | bimberi
[06:15] <Flannel> er, billybigrigger
[06:15] <pan_> ubuntu 8.10 is out today?
[06:15] <yhuang> the countdown image is dead
[06:15] <billybigrigger> ya i know i know
[06:15] <billybigrigger> all i said was im waiting
[06:15] <Flannel> !isitout | pan_, yhuang
[06:15] <Flannel> billybigrigger: keep it out of this channel, this channel is for support only
[06:16] <yhuang> am i muted?
[06:16] <rohan> can i use usb-creator in ubuntu intrepid to make a usb stick by running the ISO in a virtual machine, and making a physical usb stick?
[06:16] <billybigrigger> yhuang: no
[06:16] <rohan> that way i can avoid burning a cd completely
[06:16] <diogofsr> Does someone succefully used PVM in Ubuntu? I just get crashes when I try to add hosts.
[06:16] <glapp> Deflatarat: where is vm config? i only have vmware player not workstation
[06:16] <Deflatarat> :(
[06:17] <thoreauputic> glapp: go to easyvmx and make yourself a vmx
[06:17] <kevipapo> thoreaupedic: it worked :D
[06:17] <thoreauputic> glapp: http://www.easyvmx.com/
[06:17] <kevipapo> *thoreauputic
[06:17] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: great :)
[06:17] <kevipapo> you're a lifesaver
[06:18] <kevipapo> now, back to my original plan: making the user interface friendlier
[06:18] <kevipapo> thanks
[06:18] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: the new b43 is way better than the old bcm43xx
[06:18] <kevipapo> kool
[06:18] <kevin083> does anyone know if a linksys wusb54gsc will work out of the box in 8.10?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> kevipapo: and you're welcome :)
[06:18] <kevipapo> :)
[06:18] <Flannel> kevin083: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid support, thanks
[06:18] <outbackwifi> kevipapo: just for my enlightenment how come you got a powerbook without an airport express ?
[06:19] <kevipapo> outbackwifi: no, it came with an airport express
[06:19] <kevipapo> the chipset they use is broadcom
[06:19] <thoreauputic> outbackwifi: Broadcom 430 6 *is* an Airport Express
[06:20] <kevipapo> out of all the hardware on the generated list, the wifi is the only thing that doesnt come up with Apple in the name
[06:20] <outbackwifi> thoreauputic: ah thanks for the info!
[06:20] <Bearcat> wow. This place is busy
[06:20] <thoreauputic> outbackwifi: np :)
[06:20]  * outbackwifi didnt know apple could mess up big time like that
[06:20] <kevipapo> they were very 1st party back then
[06:20] <kevipapo> Bearcat: well, when a big release is coming out the next day...
[06:21] <error404notfound> I added a user with useradd without "-m" how can I create his home directory now? not via mkdir.. some proper method
[06:21] <kinnaz> mkdir is the right method
[06:21] <kinnaz> you mkdir the directory, and then chown it to the user it should belong to
[06:21] <prince_jammys> error404notfound: you can create it via mkdir, and add it to the entry in /etc/passwd
[06:21] <annoyed> who wants to do their good deed for the day? beginner hoping to fight root for permission to move my 'wine' folder back where it belongs
[06:21] <fallore> my top and bottom panels are frozen up. i clicked the shutdown button and everything just kinda... broke. i'm running ubuntu 8.04 and this happens far too often nowadays. can anyone help me figure this out?
[06:22] <kevipapo> annoyed: are you logged in as an administrator account?
[06:22] <Bearcat> hey folks, I'm working on someone's linux PC and i want to get it back to them tomorrow.  They have dial up and so don't do their updates so they gave it to me. I hooked it up to my DSL and let it run over night. It errored out. Now there is now network connectivity and i really dont' feel like spending time fsking with it. My quesition is, if i insert kubuntu disc and do an "install" will that mess everything (format) or just do an update?
[06:23] <annoyed> logged in with the only account
[06:23] <pan_> in update-manager i get a bunch of kde updates how make it not show up?
[06:23] <kevipapo> it should be admin
[06:23] <kevipapo> annoyed: are you moving through the file browser?
[06:23] <Flannel> Bearcat: Youre trying to upgrade to a newer version? or what?
[06:23] <annoyed> ya.. graphical
[06:23] <outbackwifi> Bearcat: mess everyting
[06:24] <Bearcat> Flannel: yes, upgrade to a newer version. I have an alternate disc too, but that updates via a connection.
[06:24] <kevipapo> annoyed: that may be the issue, since the file browser may not have the same administrator level as you
[06:24] <kevipapo> you say you want to move it someplace....are you experienced with the terminal
[06:24] <Flannel> Bearcat: What version is currently on it, and what are you trying to upgrade to?  And yes, alternate CD is how you upgrade.
[06:24] <annoyed> was tryn to put new dll files into 'wine'... when i moved 'wine' away from the /usr/lib folder
[06:25] <annoyed> now it's stuck under root, and it wont let me move it back
[06:25] <glapp> thoreauputic: http://www.easyvmx.com/new-easyvmx.shtml , should i upload the iso there or i should never specify it ?
[06:25] <kevipapo> so you want to move it back to /usr/lib?
[06:25] <annoyed> terminal.. i'm familiar with copy & paste magic
[06:25] <annoyed> yep
[06:25] <Bearcat> Flannel: i'm not entirely sure what version it's on. (i'm not new to linux but i am to ubuntu)
[06:25] <kevipapo> good, copy and paste will do fine
[06:25] <Flannel> Bearcat: lsb_release -a
[06:25] <kevipapo> open a new terminal session
[06:25] <thoreauputic> glapp: no no - you use the wizard to create a hard drive image and config, then install your iso to that
[06:26] <Bearcat> Flannel: actually kubuntu in this case. Thanks for the help so far.
[06:26] <paul68> Need your advice is it better to wait till the dist upgrade is ready in the update manager or can I just run it instantly?
[06:26] <Flannel> Bearcat: right, flavor doesn't matter, just version.
[06:26] <Roky> anyone know which catalyst is most recently reported stable for ati 4800 series?
[06:26] <kevipapo> annoyed: execute the following: sudo mv /path/to/wine/folder /usr/lib
[06:26] <Roky> Last I heard it was 8.6
[06:26] <thoreauputic> glapp: I suggest using the simplest wizard if you haven't done this before
[06:27] <thoreauputic> glapp: and just follow the instructions - it's very simple and it gives you a zip file to download etc.
[06:27]  * Bearcat boots up this pc again
[06:28] <Roky> :-[ anybody? heh
[06:28] <thoreauputic> !patience | Roky
[06:29] <thoreauputic> Roky: 2 minutes is not long :)
[06:29] <Roky> hehe yeah sorry I shoulda waited more
[06:29] <Roky> :P
[06:29] <annoyed> that worked : P THANKS!!!
[06:29] <glapp> thoreauputic: and how do install ym iso to that? im very noobish...
[06:29] <chenai_> hello
[06:30] <annoyed> anyone here know about 911/666 jed1 engl-ish?
[06:30] <outbackwifi> glapp: whats a ym iso
[06:30] <Bearcat> Flannel: ubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[06:30] <glapp> ir doesnt even let me decide the guest os
[06:30] <kevipapo> annoyed: anytime
[06:31] <kevipapo> always use terminal if admin in other apps doesnt work
[06:31] <thoreauputic> glapp: well, you will need to look at the config for your vmplayer - I use mainly VBox and Qemu here but it is fairly simple and uses the GUi - I think you just use the GUI to point it at your iso
[06:31] <Flannel> Bearcat: Alright.  You can upgrade that to Hardy no problem.  And yeah, just pop in the alternate CD and then follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[06:31] <paul68> outbackwifi: hi what is better waiting till the 8.10 is ready in the update manager or can I just do a dist upgrade?
[06:31] <Bearcat> Flannel: does that require a net connection?
[06:31] <Flannel> Bearcat: It'll claim it needs to download a lot, but it only actually has to download what isn't on the CD, so the bulk will be "downloaded" almost immediately from the CD
[06:31] <omagdon7> I'm trying to set up a dual monitor in 8.10 but have run in to some issues, anyone feel qualified to help me figure it out?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> glapp: the guest os is defined by what you chose in easyvmx
[06:31] <outbackwifi> paul68: i would wait for a month before considering changing
[06:31] <Bearcat> Flannel: ah, good
[06:32] <fallore> my top and bottom panels are frozen up. i clicked the shutdown button and everything just kinda... broke. i'm running ubuntu 8.04 and this happens far too often nowadays. can anyone help me figure this out?
[06:32] <paul68> outbackwifi: ok thanks
[06:32] <outbackwifi> fallore: ctl+alt+backspace to restart X server  and then troubleshoot
[06:32] <Roky> why would you wait a month? lol
[06:32] <Bearcat> Flannel: wow..things are in such a state on this machine that command-not-found is crashing ^o.0^
[06:32] <Roky> It takes 20 minutes to reinstall
[06:32] <fallore> outbackwifi: by troubleshoot do you mean try and figure it out myself or come back here? because i have no idea what to do on my own lol
[06:33] <Roky> if you have bugs and such re dl in a few days, 25 minutes, nice perfect ubuntu again
[06:33] <outbackwifi> fallore: i mean you need to give us error messages and the like
[06:33] <dannybuntu> hello can i ask about ssh? if i ssh somewhere could the other computer also access my files?
[06:33] <annoyed> anyone know 29/36 engl-ish? learnin to fly/jack/jive/play ball/jed1...
[06:33] <fallore> outbackwifi: there are no error messages, it just freezes..
[06:33] <fallore> outbackwifi: lemme restart x, brb
[06:33] <Flannel> annoyed: Does that have something to do with Ubuntu?
[06:33] <redi> LJL fuck you and your mama mother fucker son of a bitch
[06:34] <glapp> i have nzipped and i have a folder mini: with 4 diskfiles and one machien config
[06:34] <Bearcat> crap brb
[06:34] <glapp> and then?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: not unless you have sshd installed and tell it to
[06:34] <annoyed> symbology is important in apps that millions see
[06:34] <paul68> dannybuntu: only if the other pc makes a ssh connection to your computer
[06:34] <dannybuntu> thanks :)
[06:34] <dannybuntu> that is cool
[06:34] <Daxx> anyone play regnum?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[06:35] <Flannel> annoyed: Alright, it's not directly support related, so do you mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic? thanks
[06:35] <dannybuntu> thoreauputic: so i have to isntall openssh-server to enable ssh access to my pc
[06:36] <annoyed> sorry.. figured there might be some elites on here who'd im me
[06:36] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: yes, it's not magic :) You need the server
[06:36] <ChrisBookwood> Any clue to when the release is? (in hours)
[06:36] <toddallen> I am trying to set up a dual monitor system in 8.10.  My issue is that the monitors are different sizes/resolutions and I cannot figure out how to set the monitors up as individual heads rather than as one "bid desktop".
[06:36] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: but only if you need remote access to your box from elsewhere via ssh
[06:36] <dannybuntu> thoreauputic: thanks ssh looks cool :) somebody asked me ssh in their computer
[06:36] <paul68> !ssh | dannybuntu
[06:36] <outbackwifi> !sitout | ChrisBookwood
[06:36] <toddallen> Anyone have any idea if this is possible?
[06:36] <Flannel> !isitout | ChrisBookwood
[06:37] <outbackwifi> ah the myterious 'i'
[06:37] <dannybuntu> thanks ^_^
[06:37] <ChrisBookwood> okay;)
[06:37] <error404notfound> on every install I get: http://pastebin.com/m7be19a11 how to get rid of it?
[06:37] <dannybuntu> !beer | ubottu
[06:37] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: you don't need openssh-server unless you need other IP addresses to access your box
[06:37] <fallore> outbackwifi: i restarted X but it didn't load. it loaded a grey box in the top left which i'm guessing was xchat being loaded and never moved on from there. i had to restart.
[06:38] <sanado> hey everybody, I had finally gotten everything working just eas I wanted it (With the exception of brightness adjustment when I updated not even thinking that I probably didn't need to
[06:38] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: the client is for outgoing connections and is installed by default
[06:38] <sanado> And my audio stopped working
[06:38] <dannybuntu> thoreauputic: i see - so if i leave my pc on and know the ip address - i can ssh to it from another location
[06:38] <toddallen> join #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <Phan> How to play *.rmvb vidieo?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: yes
[06:39] <sanado> It used to have abunch of mixer options, not it only has one for playback and one for recording
[06:39] <Bearcat> hello?
[06:39] <dannybuntu> thoreauputic: thats very very interesting :)
[06:39] <Phan> Hello!
[06:39] <outbackwifi> fallore: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:39] <dannybuntu> thoreauputic: im gonna try it ^_^
[06:39] <thoreauputic> dannybuntu: you might want to use iptables or a front end firewall thing to restrict access to certain IP addresses though
[06:39] <paul68> dannybuntu: if your isp is changing his ip on regular bases it might come in handy to create a free dns account at dyndns.org
[06:40] <glapp> thoreauputic: the easyvmx stuff doesnt work
[06:40] <glapp> i odnt get how to connect the iso and the vmx
[06:40] <thoreauputic> glapp: yes it does -what isn't working is your understanding of the process :)
[06:40] <fallore> outbackwifi: http://pastebin.com/m3bb6e0c7
[06:40] <dannybuntu> paul68: yes i have dynamic ip. ^_^
[06:40] <dannybuntu> hi fallore: finished with the paper?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> glapp: I've used easyvmx quite a few times with success
[06:40] <sanado> My wireless broke too but I managed to fix it, but I'm still stuck with a system that doesn't play sound at all. My sound card is a Realtek HD audio card and y laptop is a toshiba Satellite A215-S4807
[06:41] <fallore> dannybuntu: haha yes! i finished at like 830 in the morning and went to class. i'm going to the offtopic channel, tty there
[06:41] <paul68> dannybuntu: then the easiest way is to take a free dns account and open a port on your router and you are free to go
[06:41] <thoreauputic> glapp: before aying something "doesn't work", consider the possibility that you have made a mistake :)
[06:41] <locke> so, i'm trying to play a .ogm video in totem and it is running horribly slow, like 1 frame every 3 seconds, i have an ati card and it's using the restricted drivers that come in 8.04, compiz works great but even after disabling it the video is unwatchable\
[06:41] <outbackwifi> fallore: are you on 8.04?
[06:42] <fallore> yes, outbackwifi
[06:42] <error404notfound> anyone to comment on: http://pastebin.com/m7be19a11
[06:42] <locke> any suggestions?  glxinfo gives direct rendering: no
[06:42] <Decepticon> why hasnt 8.10 been released yet
[06:42] <dannybuntu> paul68: ok wow... suddenly i am overwhelmed by info.. i think i will start with sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:42] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: install a language pack for your language
[06:42] <rski> Decepticon: because it's not ready Is my guess.
[06:42] <rski> Decepticon: i dont think it's because someone forgot.
[06:43] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: how? and which one for en-us?
[06:43] <ChrisBookwood> rski: lol:D
[06:43] <Decepticon> isnt there a release schedule....
[06:43] <glapp> got it now
[06:43] <Decepticon> for oct 30
[06:43] <rski> there is
[06:43] <rski> and it's not late yet Decepticon
[06:43] <paul68> dannybuntu: your welcome
[06:43] <rski> depending on where you live in the world
[06:43] <Decepticon> so its not oct 30 yet on west coast usa
[06:44] <Decepticon> in 15 minutes it will be
[06:44] <fallore> :D i'm excited
[06:44] <Flannel> !isitout | Decepticon
[06:44] <ChrisBookwood> Decepticon: oct 30 is one of those days with 24 hours in it, so there stil some time to lean on, for the release manager
[06:44] <paul68> it's early here :-) as I'm in europe but no update here yet
[06:44] <paul68> I can wait
[06:45] <Decepticon> ah ok... i guess i was considering 0ct 30 as a deadline, that before it, it will be released
[06:45] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: do you have language-pack-en installed? Look in Synaptic package manager
[06:45] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all
[06:45] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: using ssh, doing dpkg -l | grep language-pack-en
[06:45] <sanado> Any help on my audio not working? It used to work, but after today's update it stopped for a few reasons
[06:46] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: ah, is this a server install ?
[06:46] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: yup... jeos
[06:46] <outbackwifi> fallore: i dont see any issues with your xorg
[06:46] <kiyiko> how would i copy files from my desktop to another harddrive?
[06:47] <kiyiko> throught terminal*
[06:47] <outbackwifi> fallore: can you pastebin dmesg
[06:47] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: you probably have a very minimal install then - does jeos even install ubuntu-standard?
[06:47] <Deflatarat> kiyiko: use scp
[06:47] <fallore> how do i access it, outbackwifi ?
[06:47] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: didn't checked, okay, I installed language-pack-en, now working fine... thanks...
[06:47] <paul68> kiyiko using  cp if the drive is on the same location or use scp if the drive is on another machine
[06:47] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: np
[06:48] <kiyiko> it is on the same machine, but i do not know the path of the other harddrive
[06:48] <lixujia> Any one can tell me what the "libnm-glib" is?
[06:48] <outbackwifi> fallore: /var/log/messages or dmesg
[06:48] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: you might want to see if ubuntu-standard is installed too (i'm not really familiar with jeos )
[06:48] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: hmmm, okay, I will check that
[06:49] <paul68> !cp |kiyiko
[06:49] <error404notfound> thoreauputic: nope, not installed...
[06:49] <fallore> outbackwifi: http://pastebin.com/m3ed3b57f
[06:49] <emonkey> lixujia, apt-cache show libnm-glib0
[06:49] <kiyiko> is there some way i can get a list of the drives, on my computer?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: it's a metapackage - apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard to see what it installs
[06:50] <Deflatarat> kiyiko: get the path of the drives, use mount
[06:50] <Deflatarat> kiyiko: or use df if the size of the drives can give u clues to which one it is
[06:50] <thoreauputic> error404notfound: there's also ubuntu-minimal but ubuntu-standard pulls that in anyway
[06:51] <WhiteDiesel> FINALLY!
[06:51] <paul68> kiyiko: df -h should do the trick
[06:51] <emonkey> lixujia, A library that applications can use to query connection status via NetworkManager.
[06:51] <WhiteDiesel> 3 days trying to figure out how to share a folder FROM my windows machine
[06:52] <lixujia> emonkey, Thank you! But the problem is where to download it's source code?
[06:52] <Buiss> i am missing the gtk.h file. how can i fix this?which package should i install?
[06:52] <outbackwifi> fallore: this seems to cause issues --> compiz.real[6344]: segfault at 02ec00e7 eip 08055a80 esp bff97250 error 4
[06:52] <WhiteDiesel> but i still can't rename the shared folder.  crap!
[06:52] <fallore> any idea what i should do, outbackwifi?
[06:52] <outbackwifi> fallore: disable compiz if you are not into eyecandy
[06:52] <thoreauputic> kiyiko: sudo fdisk -l
[06:52] <lulu> hello from tahiti everybody
[06:53] <outbackwifi> !hi | lulu
[06:53] <lixujia> emonkey, I am compiling tinymail on other system, and that system dosen't have this package.
[06:53] <kc8pxy> ^Oink^:  no. i want to set up a tap and offer it to my vbox as a host interface networking
[06:53] <msqt> Hello.
[06:53] <fallore> i'll try that outbackwifi. hopefully it'll work again magically in 8.10 :D
[06:54] <lulu> just english langage
[06:54] <paul68> !hi |msqt
[06:54] <lulu> ?????
[06:54] <emonkey> lixujia, in the repositories are always the sources too, but you can use this website to download it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libnm-glib0&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[06:54] <WhiteDiesel> can i rename a shared windows machine folder?
[06:54] <fallore> outbackwifi: would going to appearance > visual effects and selecting "none" turn off compiz?
[06:54] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: sure
[06:55] <craig_> What time is 8.10 released?
[06:55] <paul68> !isitout| craig__
[06:55] <lulu> no french here ???
[06:55] <lulu> lol
[06:55] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  won't let me
[06:55] <outbackwifi> !fr| lulu
[06:55] <lulu> yes from tahiti island
[06:56] <Deflatarat> bonjour!
[06:56] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  the desktop shared folder has that option hreyed out  and if i try via /home/desktop it's not there
[06:56] <lulu> bonjour
[06:56] <sanado> Any help on my audio not working? It used to work, but after the recent update it stopped for some reason. Im on a Toshiba satellite a215 running a realtek hd audio sound card
[06:56] <WhiteDiesel> oops ^greyed
[06:56] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: ok do you have the rights to change them?
[06:56] <outbackwifi> sanado: fire up terminal; type alsamixer, push all sliders to max
[06:57] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  if i do places > shared i get cannot rename folder resource in use
[06:57] <Deflatarat> hmm, bonsoir in tahiti
[06:57] <WhiteDiesel> paul68: yes
[06:57] <lixujia> emonkey, Thank you very much! I'll try to find it.
[06:57] <lulu> thanx
[06:57] <lulu> and you from ??
[06:57] <Deflatarat> Texas =]
[06:57] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  i suppose i could just make another folder and mount it there
[06:57] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: to get this straight you have a windows share that you want to rename right?
[06:58] <lulu> cool
[06:58] <msqt> from japan
[06:58] <WhiteDiesel> paul68: yes
[06:58] <emonkey> lixujia, just click on the version you should have and then there will be some links on the right side where you should be able to download the sources too
[06:58] <Deflatarat> hajimemashite
[06:58] <kc8pxy> WhiteDiesel:  my policy is to manually do stuff, when it fumbles doing it automagically :)
[06:58] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: you have to go into windows rename it there and mount it afterwards
[06:58] <ka0x_> ubuntu 8.10?
[06:59] <outbackwifi> paul68: cant he just rename the mountpoint?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> ka0x_: *sigh* /topic
[06:59] <rodolfo_> hi there! when will Ubuntu 8.10 be available to DL from ubuntu.com?
[06:59] <ka0x_> ubuntu 8.10 ?
[06:59] <outbackwifi> !isitout| ka0x_ rodolfo
[06:59] <paul68> outbackwifi: that is also an option
[06:59] <ka0x_> spanish irc ubuntu?
[07:00] <Flannel> !es | ka0x_
[07:00] <thoreauputic> !es
[07:00] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  let me explain better.  i finally figured how to mount a shared windows folder.  mounted it in a folder i created in /home/user
[07:00] <pogztimz> i recently plugged my 100GB storage device into a server through USB port. how can i view the contents of the mass storage, since i am on CLI? wat commands should i use?
[07:00] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  but it won't let me rename that folder i created
[07:01] <msqt> ﻿Do you know "ttf-wqy-zenhei"?
[07:01] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: under linux or under windows?
[07:01] <kc8pxy> WhiteDiesel:  unmount, rename, remount :)
[07:01] <WhiteDiesel> paul68: linux
[07:01] <outbackwifi> pogztimz: mount it after you find out what its device name is; cd to the mountpoint and viola view the contents
[07:01] <Ta1> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 alternate from the hard disk because I have no removable media, I used grub4dos, It could start the setup, but the setup keeps asking me to insert the CDs and there is no option to select iso image. Can you help me?
[07:01] <WhiteDiesel> ﻿kc8pxy: i know.  last resort
[07:01] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: see remark kc8pxy
[07:02] <kc8pxy> WhiteDiesel:  you can;t rename mountpoints while they are mounted.
[07:02] <msqt> There is fear of the copyright infringement in it.
[07:02] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  k.  i just figured there'd be a straight shot with a command
[07:02] <Ta1> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 alternate from the hard disk because I have no removable media, I used grub4dos, It could start the setup, but the setup keeps asking me to insert the CDs and there is no option to select iso image. Can you help me?
[07:02] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: hey I'm still learning to don't worry
[07:03] <WhiteDiesel> kc8pxy:  ok.  didn't know that.
[07:03] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: how can i know the device name?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> !install | Ta1
[07:03] <outbackwifi> pogztimz: last few lines of dmesg should tell you. hint.. it might start with sdb
[07:04] <lixujia> emonkey, Maybe it's in the network-manager package, so I can't find a source code named libnm-glib.
[07:04] <WhiteDiesel> now i can play music from my windows machine on my ubuntu machine without having to use VNC.  WOOHOO!!!!!
[07:04] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: i am a noob.. pls tell me step by step.. ty
[07:04] <Deflatarat> why not just play music from ubuntu machine?
[07:04] <Deflatarat> :)
[07:04] <outbackwifi> pogztimz: ok type dmesg in terminal
[07:04] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: also pay attention that the name of the drives are not changing after a dist upgrade
[07:04] <emonkey> lixujia, network-manager is afaik only a meta-package with a list of other packages which have to be installed ...
[07:05] <WhiteDiesel> i feel like restarting and dancing a jig to the startup ubuntu music.
[07:05] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: then you need to adapt your smb conf again :-)
[07:05] <thoreauputic> lixujia: try libnm-glib0
[07:05] <kc8pxy> WhiteDiesel:  hehe:)
[07:05] <xitam> is it possible to get a precompiled kernel on 8.10 without xen?
[07:05] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: then?
[07:06] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  what is smb config again?
[07:06] <outbackwifi> pastebin the last few lines (assuming you just plugged in the drive)
[07:06] <lixujia> thoreauputic, Yes I'm finding it, but it's really difficult to find it's source code!
[07:06] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: the samba.config file where you defined your windows share
[07:06] <emonkey> lixujia, otherways you can download from the original site: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/
[07:06] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: how can i pastebin.. i am on CLI....
[07:07] <T-One> good morning
[07:07] <thoreauputic> lixujia: do you have source code enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:07] <outbackwifi> !pastebinit| pogztimz
[07:07] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  cifs
[07:07] <outbackwifi> !pastebin| pogztimz
[07:07] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: cifs?
[07:07] <lixujia> thoreauputic, yes I have
[07:08] <thoreauputic> lixujia: to download sources just use apt-get source <packagename>
[07:08] <WhiteDiesel> paul68: smb meaning smaba?
[07:08] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: yes
[07:08] <WhiteDiesel> oops samba
[07:09] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  i'm not sure how samba and cifs work together
[07:09] <thoreauputic> lixujia: to find the package use apt-cache search <keywords>
[07:09] <msqt> Hi.
[07:09] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  but the mount is cifs not smb
[07:09] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: i know how to post at pastebin.. but how can i copy  the "dmesg"? as i said earlier i am on ubuntu server so no GUI.. i am using COMMAND LINE INTERFACE..
[07:09] <lixujia> I have tried it yet, but gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found was given
[07:09] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: sori for the caps :P
[07:10] <kc8pxy> pogztimz:  use gpm.   you have mouse functionality on CLI.
[07:10] <thoreauputic> lixujia: to find a particular file use apt-file (you would need to install that and update it) or dlocate (same but faster and only for packages already on your system)
[07:10] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: I don't know what cifs is however when you create a windows share you need samba to make that happen, then you have to add your samba conf file in order to go to your shared drive on your network from windows
[07:10] <lixujia> thoreauputic, Now I'm sure it in the package network-manager
[07:11] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: kk.. wait a sec.
[07:11] <lixujia> I'll go and try first!
[07:11] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: with all the permissions set to allow users to access modify or just read write acces
[07:11] <thoreauputic> lixujia: umm the gpg error is either because you haven't updated your sources or you are using a 3rd party repo etc.
[07:11] <lixujia> Thank you! thoreauputic
[07:11] <Ta1> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 alternate from the hard disk because I have no removable media, I used grub4dos, It could start the setup, but the setup keeps asking me to insert the CDs and there is no option to select iso image. I tried the method here http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html and it could load the setup, but in the setup it asks me to insert CDs and there is no option to setup from hard disk or
[07:11] <lixujia> Thank you! emonkey!
[07:11] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  hmmm
[07:12] <thoreauputic> lixujia: Or try sudo apt-key update
[07:12] <Ta1> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 alternate from the hard disk because I have no removable media, I used grub4dos, It could start the setup, but the setup keeps asking me to insert the CDs and there is no option to select iso image. I tried the method here http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html and it could load the setup, but in the setup it asks me to insert CDs and there is no option to setup from hard disk or
[07:12] <Flannel> !repeat | Ta1
[07:12] <domino14> why isnt the latest version of qt in the repos?
[07:12] <domino14> what's "backports"?
[07:13] <Flannel> !backports | domino14
[07:13] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  not really following
[07:14] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  just happy that the windows folder shows up on my ubuntu desktop and i can access it and copy files to my ubuntu folders.
[07:14] <Ta1> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 alternate from the hard disk because I have no removable media, I used grub4dos, It could start the setup, but the setup keeps asking me to insert the CDs and there is no option to select iso image. I tried the method here http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html and it could load the setup, but in the setup it asks me to insert CDs and there is no option to setup from hard disk or
[07:14] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  didn't use any smb commands to mount it
[07:15] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: this is the smb config that I have
[07:15] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64492/
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Ta1: did you happen to red the URL that I triggered ubottu to give you?
[07:15] <Flannel> Ta1: Please don't repeat so often.  30 minutes is a good timeframe
[07:15] <Ta1> Yes I did
[07:15] <thoreauputic> !install | Ta1
[07:15] <Flynsarmy> I'm not getting any sound in flash player 10 on firefox. ubuntu 8.04. ideas?
[07:15] <paul68> !samba | WhiteDiesel
[07:15] <Ta1> it all talks about the initiation of the setup
[07:15] <domino14> but when do packages go from backports to the regular repos?
[07:16] <Ta1> I have a problem with the setup itself
[07:16] <thoreauputic> domas: they don't
[07:16] <thoreauputic> domino14: they don't
[07:16] <thoreauputic> sorry domas
[07:17] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  whats the command to get that config?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> domino14: once a release is out, the packages are not update in normal repos except for security and bugfixes
[07:17] <thoreauputic> domino14: hence backports in a separate repo
[07:17] <Bogaurd> does ubuntu use something like iftab? I rebuilt my system with a new network card, which is now showing up as eth1 rather than eth0 - eth0 is not present. How can I reset it so that the card is detected as eth0?
[07:18] <pogztimz> !pastebin
[07:19] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: you have to install the samba server to get this
[07:19]  * Bearcat loses his mind
[07:19] <Kartagis> I'm on 2.6.24-21-generic. why does it exist in upgrades?
[07:19] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  hmmm
[07:20] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  so you're saying that when i reboot it won't be there?
[07:20] <Ta1> Can I add install from hard disk to the options in ubuntu 8.04 setup?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> Bogaurd: /etc/iftab is replaced in Ubuntu now by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:20] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: no I didn't say that
[07:21] <r0ach> Guys, here's the situation. I had a Windows XP installation. But I installed Ubuntu in dual boot and for some strange reason, it didn't detect my Windows during install. So, Grub doesn't have Windows. I can't access Windows. What should I do ?
[07:21] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  sorry it's late
[07:21] <Bearcat> Flannel: when i run the cdromupgrade script it looks in the wrong dir. There is a mistake in the script it seems as it's looking for binary-all//hardy.tar.gz  Note the 2 slashes instead of one
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Bogaurd: I thin making your own /etc/iftab would work though
[07:21] <Bogaurd> thoreauputic: tganks :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> s/thin/think
[07:21] <paul68> WhiteDiesel: no problem read this
[07:21] <WhiteDiesel> paul68:  thanks for the info
[07:21] <Blaenk> what time will it be out? and what timezone?
[07:21] <paul68> !samba |whiteDiesel
[07:21] <Bogaurd> thoreauputic: is the format of the file you mentioned similar to iftab?
[07:21] <Blaenk> what time will 8.10 be out and what timezone?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Bogaurd: I just googled and found this for example: http://www.stuvel.eu/archive/26/ethernet-numbering-in-ubuntu
[07:22] <Bogaurd> thoreauputic: alright, thanks :)
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Bogaurd: it should be fairly simple
[07:22] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to fix no sound in flash 10 issues on hardy?
[07:22] <paul68> !isitout|blaenk
[07:22] <Peddy> how do I find out where my 'ffmpeg' file is located? I know it's in $path, but what's the command to find it?
[07:22] <WhiteDiesel> goodnight all.
[07:22] <r0ach> Would appreciate a response you know.
[07:22] <r0ach> Guys, here's the situation. I had a Windows XP installation. But I installed Ubuntu in dual boot and for some strange reason, it didn't detect my Windows during install. So, Grub doesn't have Windows. I can't access Windows. What should I do ?
[07:22] <ubuntuPAGeekz> anyone know the official release time for 8.10?
[07:23] <rski> ubuntuPAGeekz: not decided
[07:23] <Ta1> When I get kerneal panic, is it a problem with vmlinuz or initrd.gz?
[07:23] <elvis123> Hi again, I have 3 partitions sda1 (linux bootable 98.7MB), sda2 (swap 1GB), sda3 (raid 500GB) but for some silly reason grup does not want to install on sda1. Please help
[07:23] <r0ach> Pls Pls guys
[07:24] <r0ach> Here's the situation. I had a Windows XP installation. But I installed Ubuntu in dual boot and for some strange reason, it didn't detect my Windows during install. So, Grub doesn't have Windows. I can't access Windows. What should I do ?
[07:24] <paul68> !patience |Roach
[07:24] <Ta1> When I get kernel panic, is it a problem with vmlinuz or initrd.gz?
[07:24] <r0ach> k
[07:24] <r0ach> :(
[07:25] <Ta1> When I get kernel panic, is it a problem with vmlinuz or initrd.gz?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> !repeat | Ta1
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Ta1: stop it please
[07:25] <paul68> !patience |Ta1
[07:26] <bkovacs> Wah ttime will 8.10 final be released
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !isitout
[07:26] <Ta1> Aha I got it, I thought this is an official support
[07:26] <Ta1> How can I get official support?
[07:26] <r0ach> Still waiting.....
[07:26] <r0ach> Hmph....
[07:26] <thoreauputic> GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENT: People, *please* read the /topic. Thanks
[07:27] <yurimxpxman> anybody know if there'll be a (easy) way to keep KDE3 while upgrading the rest of the system to 8.10?
[07:28] <Zendot> yurimxpxman: you can lock the version in synaptic i think
[07:28] <joshux> !isitout
[07:29] <Ta1> Hey people, please help me to get rid of Microsoft windows
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[07:29] <|_ocke> k guys i need some help, i just installed my sblive 5.1 in my pci slot, and it shows up in lspci, but i need to get it to work in alsa, and preferably oss and pulse too but it doesnt show up, what can i do?
[07:29] <yurimxpxman> Ta1: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[07:30] <yurimxpxman> Ta1: funny thing is that the ubuntu joke won't work since you're already here :P
[07:30] <Ta1> I have a problem with ubuntu installation and no one understand my problem
[07:30] <r0ach> !lol | Ta1
[07:30] <r0ach> Sorry was testing out ubottu
[07:30] <outbackwifi> !ask | Ta1
[07:30] <balz> if i want to limmit an ubuntu server's bandwidth consumption, is there a way to do this within ubuntu, or does this have to be done on the router level?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> !support | Ta1
[07:31] <pogztimz> outbackwifi: u still there? here is the link.. http://pastebin.ca/1240377
[07:31] <Ta1> I am in the official support channel I think
[07:31] <Ta1> and even no one tries to read my questions
[07:31] <Ta1> When I get kernel panic, is it a problem with vmlinuz or initrd.gz?
[07:32] <outbackwifi> Ta1: just go ahead and state your emergency
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Ta1: you'll get better help if you ask better questions and observe IRC etiquette
[07:32] <outbackwifi> Ta1: depends on what the kernel panicked on
[07:32] <erbi> if i am going to add a iwn driver to my kernel
[07:32] <benzon> Okay a minor question - on a mobo with a build in Realtek sound card, and there is no og what so ever sound comming, out get the annoying mobo bips
[07:32] <erbi> where do i place the iwn driver ?
[07:32] <osubuck> will i be able to use nvidia drivers 96.xxx for ubuntu 8.10 when its released?
[07:32] <Ta1> It said it can't mount the root
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Ta1: and if you don't stop being silly you will be removed
[07:32] <outbackwifi> Ta1: it means that you havent specified the root device correctly
[07:33] <Ta1> I am sorry I had no intention to be silly
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Ta1: OK
[07:33] <outbackwifi> erbi: the compiled  module?
[07:33] <pogztimz>  outbackwifi: u still there? here is the link.. http://pastebin.ca/1240377
[07:33] <osubuck> will i be able to use nvidia drivers 96.xxx for ubuntu 8.10 when its released?
[07:33] <Ta1> Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (1,0)
[07:34] <erbi> i have no idea
[07:34] <Ta1> This was when I started installation using vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[07:34] <erbi> i have to load the iwn driver into my kernel to get my wireless card working
[07:35] <outbackwifi> erbi: sudo modprobe -v driver_name
[07:35] <Ta1> So the conclusin is that I got Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (1,0). This was when I started installation using vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[07:35] <outbackwifi> Ta1: what is your kernel line?
[07:35] <outbackwifi> Ta1: block(1,0) means second hard disk; is that the case with you
[07:35] <Ta1> outbackwifi: What do u mean by Kernel line exactly?
[07:36] <jim_p> i am using checkinstall to make a .deb package of fatrat (a download manager) from source. how can i state the dependencies and the conflicts the package has?
[07:36] <ubuntuPAGeekz> does any one know of a fix for the broadcom bcm4306 chipset without usinf ndiswrapper
[07:36] <Ta1> I have no second drive
[07:36] <kingi89> osubuck: i think nvidia doesn't have those drivers for 8.10's X.org yet
[07:36] <pogztimz>  outbackwifi: nvm i found it.. ty anyway..:)\
[07:36] <Lokian> !bcm43xx | ubuntuPAGeekz
[07:36] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: the b43 module perhaps?
[07:36] <Ta1> outbackwifi: I have no second hard drive
[07:36] <Bearcat> folks, i face an interesting dilemma. I am trying to upgrade a 7.10 to the lastest avail. An overnight upgrade went sour and now i have no internet connectivity. So i am trying to run the cdromupgrade script to pull what i can off the disc in hopes that it will at least get enough of a system back to connect and then i can update from there. However the script seems to be borked (cont)
[07:36] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx | ubuntuPAGeekz
[07:36] <outbackwifi> pogztimz: what?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> ah sorry Lokian :)
[07:37] <Ohmu> sudo umount /mnt/MyHDD fails (dev is busy).  how to find who's using it? i've hardly anything open!
[07:37] <Lokian> no biggie! the more the merrier
[07:37] <osubuck> kingi89, ok thanks for your response, looks like i'll be waiting to install it then
[07:37] <IndyGunFreak> Bearcat: did you try going from 7.10, to 8.10 and skipping 8.04?
[07:37] <|_ocke> can anyone point me to how i install emu10k1 on ubuntu 8.04?
[07:37] <furanku> hello, since I recently upgraded to ubuntu 8.10, some Fn keys on my laptop (volume up/down/mute, 9 on the numpad emulation) don't work anymore. Is that a known problem ?
[07:37] <outbackwifi> Ta1: there should be a root (hd1,0) line, change it to root (hd0,0) and press b to boot
[07:38] <jim_p> Ohmu: close every app you have there. it could be a seeding torrent up on the background
[07:38] <Ta1> where can I find this line?
[07:38] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: well i was doing it via adept. (this is not my pc it is a clients and they only had dialup si o there were 800 packages to be upgraded)
[07:38] <Ta1> outbackwifi: Where can I find this line
[07:38] <kingi89> osubuck: they're working on it though: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1820644&postcount=7
[07:38] <ubuntuPAGeekz> yes the b43 it is
[07:38] <jim_p> |_ocke: please change your name. you want to install that module or put it to work??
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> Bearcat: so how did you try and upgrade?.. by changing the source list?.. and did you try to skip 8.04, and go right to 8.10
[07:39] <osubuck> great news then kingi89.. thanks for the update
[07:39] <benzon> Tryed to figure this one out - cant get the sound to work on this machine its a Realtek HD build in soundcard, but with everything i do it will use the mobo speeker to bip true
[07:39] <Ta1> thoreauputic: How can I persuade the installation to install from hard disk instead of searching for the cds
[07:39] <locke> jim_p, apparently i need to install it i think
[07:39] <Ta1> thoreauputic: Do't give me links, I have tons of links here but with no hope
[07:40] <outbackwifi> Ta1: when you boot and get the grub screen, press e to edit the kernel line
[07:40] <locke> jim_p, i had it working fine on the previous system, buti spilt ramen into the motherboard so i'm on a different machine now and i just put the sblive 5.1 card from it into this system
[07:40] <jim_p> locke: isnt it loaded with modrobe
[07:40] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: if i run that script it tells me .dists/stable/main/dist-upgrade/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz not found. This is off the alternate cd. Note the double /  I think that may be a syntax error.
[07:40] <jim_p> ?
[07:40] <locke> jim_p, it isnt currently apparently
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Ta1: Why are yo addressing a question directly? There are over 1000 other people here
[07:40] <ubuntuPAGeekz> i used fw cutter to extract the firmware and it built the driver for me but after one reboot it does not work anymore
[07:40] <locke> but i need to figure out how to make it so
[07:40] <Lokian> Ta1 is a bit bossy
[07:40] <locke> i have only eve3r had to configure it once
[07:40] <locke> so i dont remember how to do it
[07:40] <Ta1> thoreauputic: Because u asked me not to be silly
[07:40] <IndyGunFreak> Bearcat: possible.... doesn't sound like it will be easy, thats why i hate upgrades.
[07:40] <locke> and all my google searches arent helping much
[07:40] <jim_p> locke: can you       sudo modprobe emu10k1
[07:40] <jim_p> ?
[07:40] <locke> i have the card recognized in lspci
[07:40] <thoreauputic> !guidelines | ta1
[07:40] <locke> lemme see
[07:41] <thoreauputic> Ta1: lease read that
[07:41] <thoreauputic> *please
[07:41] <locke> jim_p, module not found
[07:41] <Ohmu> jim_p, thx
[07:41] <Ta1> outbackwifi: I have no option in the grub to load from (hd1,0) I typed root (hd0,0) there
[07:41] <Ta1> thoreauputic: Ok
[07:42] <ubuntuPAGeekz> output = module emu10k1 not found
[07:42] <ubuntakias> ubuntu 8.10 what time release????????????
[07:42] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: i updated the package list in adept. Then i hit full upgrade, then did the changes. When i got up in the morning i noted that it was stuck on something waiting for a responce on an incompatable update. So i hit next and it dumped me back to the adept main screen. I noticed that the button for dist upgrade was available so i hit that and it just dumped me out again.
[07:42] <locke> how do i install the module :P
[07:42] <locke> im lame
[07:42] <Flannel> !isitout | ubuntakias
[07:42] <rski> ubuntakias: unknown
[07:42] <ubuntakias> o.O
[07:42] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: i'm not new to linux, but i'm not a kubuntu user
[07:42] <jim_p> locke: try emu10k1-gp
[07:43] <outbackwifi> Ta1: why dont you do a standard install with a Ubuntu CD? this way it will be easier on all of us
[07:43] <locke> command not found
[07:43] <ubuntuPAGeekz> yes sir thank you sooooo much
[07:44] <locke> echo "emu10k1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules shows it
[07:44] <Ta1> outbackwifi: I have no cd writer and I need a working openoffice and printer immediately otherwise I will fail in the exam
[07:44] <Ta1> outbackwifi: I have no removable media right now
[07:44] <outbackwifi> Ta1: do you have a USB stick?
[07:44] <ubuntuPAGeekz> now how about the intel 82855 gme it is also not being friendly
[07:44] <Ta1> outbackwifi: yes but the computer doesn't support booting from it
[07:45] <outbackwifi> Ta1: is it that old?
[07:45] <jim_p> locke: lol            sudo modprobe emu10k1-gp                 thet command starting with echo just placed emu10k1 in your /etc/modules
[07:45] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: so..should i just wait till the new disc is released and try that alternate to see if that path bug (apparently only to me) is fixed
[07:45] <outbackwifi> Ta1: if its only openoffice, just install openoffice for windows and be done with your exam
[07:45] <Ta1> outbackwifi: Yes 7 years old :D, it's 256 mb ram and celeron 1.1 Ghz
[07:46] <genii> locke: What does    lspci -nn     report for the vendor:device  code of your soundcard?
[07:46] <IndyGunFreak> Bearcat: you could try that, but i wouldn't get real excited about it working
[07:46] <locke> 02:04.0 Unknown class [ffff]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 [1102:0002] (rev 06)
[07:46] <strikoo> I am sorry to just barge in like this, but can anybody please tell me where to download 8.10 final?
[07:46] <locke> strikoo, ubuntu.com?
[07:46] <Flannel> !isitout | strikoo
[07:46] <rski> strikoo: from ubuntu.com when it is released.
[07:46] <locke> i dont think 8.10 is out yet
[07:46] <Ta1> outbackwifi: Windows is corrupted and doesn't want to let me use the office and the printer, and I can't format otherwise I will lose important data
[07:46] <meatlumps> Don't ask
[07:46] <strikoo> tnx
[07:46] <meatlumps> every ask delays release by 2 hours :D
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Ta1: so what are you using to be on IRC?
[07:47] <Bearcat> IndyGunFreak: what i'm dealing with now is a "no route to host" which i hate :")  even trying to apply a route command gives me a 'no route to host' but i can do a ping local host just fine.
[07:47] <genii> locke: I had module name incorrect. use name of:  snd-emu10k1        instead of only emu10k1
[07:47] <ubuntuPAGeekz> DAMN THAT SUX
[07:47] <Ta1> thoreauputic: It's my first time here
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Ta1: you can't use the machine you are already on?
[07:47] <locke> oh lemme see
[07:47] <jim_p> strikoo: ubuntu.com and pick a server other than the default one
[07:47]  * outbackwifi gives up on Ta1
[07:47] <stelt> Ubuntu used to literally make money (an official coin): http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-make-money-with-free-software.html
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Ta1: to do yor work?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> *your
[07:47] <locke> modprobe snd-emu10k1 returns nothing
[07:48] <Ta1> thoreauputic: I can , but windows can't run office or printer here
[07:48] <jim_p> locke: then it loads the module perfectly
[07:48] <ubuntuPAGeekz> now how about the intel 82855 gme it is also not being friendly
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Ta1: so save to a floppy or something
[07:48] <locke> jim_p, why would it not be showing up in pref-sound?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Ta1: or borrow a usb or whatver
[07:48] <Lokian> thoreauputic +1
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Ta1: or email it to yourself
[07:49] <Ta1> thoreauputic: Can I use my memory card as USB?
[07:49] <Ta1> to boot ubuntu?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Ta1: why don't you just mail it as an attachment?
[07:49] <Ta1> I have no other computer available here
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Ta1: you aren't listening
[07:49] <Lokian> pen and paper always works
[07:49] <Ta1> I listen
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Ta1: you have Internet, you have office, you have email
[07:50] <outbackwifi> Ta1: use google-docs if all else fails
[07:50] <Ta1> thoreauputic: I didn't finish my research yet, I have to format it and print it
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Ta1: so save the file and email it to where you can use it
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Ta1: ...
[07:50] <Ta1> thoreauputic: I have no other computer or somewhere where I can do this
[07:50] <Ta1> thoreauputic: I only have my own machine
[07:51] <outbackwifi> Ta1: which machine are you on currently?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Ta1: does your teacher have email? Can you submit your work via email?
[07:51] <Ta1> outbackwifi:  It's windows xp
[07:51] <jim_p> locke: can you reboot or find me another way to make ubuntu see the card? alsaconf wihch is the tool for the job is removed from ubuntu !@#$% while all other distros have it!
[07:52] <Ta1> thoreauputic: They don't, they need papers only
[07:52] <jim_p> i am using checkinstall to make a .deb package of fatrat (a download manager) from source. how can i state the dependencies and the conflicts the package has?
[07:52] <Dextorion> morning
[07:52] <locke> jim_p, it sees the card, lspci shows it clearly
[07:52] <outbackwifi> Ta1: can you access google-docs? its an online office suite. type your work there and print it out with your windows printer
[07:52] <Ta1> outbackwifi: Does it support prinitng?
[07:52] <locke> it was working great in 8.04 on the other box i was using prior to this, but i spilt ramen in it so i had to switch to this one
[07:53] <outbackwifi> Ta1: docs.google.com yes i believe it does. Please try first before asking
[07:53] <locke> then when i found out that i cant adjust the volume or anything on my onboard and it only uses left channel i decided to install the card and now i have no sound :(
[07:53] <jim_p> locke: i know. and the module is loaded but it does not work. can you tell alsa somehow to use it? i cant without alsaconf
[07:53] <fallore> WOOT irssi all configured to connect, identify, and join channels :D
[07:53] <Ta1> outbackwifi: Thank u man, may god bless u
[07:53] <locke> jim_p, thats my problem i dont know how to do it otherwise :P
[07:53]  * outbackwifi heaves a big sigh of relief
[07:53] <outbackwifi> Ta1: yw and atb
[07:54]  * thoreauputic joins in outbackwifi 's big sigh
[07:54] <Ohmu> guys this is annoying .. my USB HDD flips between reporting as sdc1 and sdb1.  And I'm not even unplugging it!  what on earth is going on?
[07:54] <Ta1> thoreauputic: I am sorry for being annoying, I 'm just feeling it's very crowded here, it's my first time to use IRC
[07:54] <jim_p> locke: is it inside /etc/modules?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Ta1: OK - understood :)
[07:54] <outbackwifi> Ohmu: dmesg should give you more info
[07:54] <Ta1> bye bye
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Ta1: but do read the guidelines please :)
[07:54] <locke> on the old box both onboard and this were working but i had to use alsaconf to make it use this card and i had it working fine, but in this one i cant get it to work at all, onboard works but it's worthless
[07:55] <locke> how can i see whats in modules?
[07:55] <locke> ls /etc/modules/ doesnt work
[07:55] <jim_p> locke: how did you use alsaconf? it does not even exist in ubuntu!
[07:55] <unop> jim_p, you could build alsa-utils to get alsaconf
[07:55] <locke> jim_p, in previous versions i mean
[07:55] <locke> like 5.10-6.04
[07:55] <jim_p> locke: cat /etc/alsaconf
[07:55] <locke> after that i didnt have to use it
[07:55] <jim_p> damn
[07:56] <jim_p> locke: cat /etc/modules
[07:56] <ubuntuPAGeekz> now how about the intel 82855 gme it is also not being friendly(jim_p)
[07:56] <locke> emu10k1 is in /etc/modules
[07:56] <unop> jim_p, as for stating depends/conflicts for a new package, you have to state them in the debian/control file
[07:56] <locke> arghhhh
[07:56] <jim_p> locke: also add emu10k1-gp
[07:56] <locke> i just wanna watch dominion tank police :(
[07:56] <locke> but now i dont have any sound
[07:56] <locke> k
[07:57] <locke> jim_p, do i have to reboot or reload alsa or something after that? i added it
[07:57] <jim_p> unop: and where is it on chackinstall?
[07:57] <jim_p> locke: yes
[07:57] <locke> reboot? or can i do something simpler?
[07:57] <jim_p> ubuntulog: is this wireless?
[07:57] <locke> alsa reload?
[07:58] <locke> i reloaded alsa
[07:58] <locke> still isnt in preferences->sound
[07:58] <locke> anything else
[07:58] <outbackwifi> locke: what about alsamixer/
[07:59] <benzon> Ill try again then, my MSI K9AGM2-FIH - got a Realtek HD Audio Build in soundcard, the chip is Realtek ALC888 - cant get sound of it is there a known problem with this or is there a way to fix it
[07:59] <locke> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[07:59] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: is it wireless too?
[08:01] <MothOnLovesFlame> i cant upgrade to ubuntu 8.10
[08:01] <benzon> MothOnLovesFlame, maybe its because its yet to be released?
[08:01] <MothOnLovesFlame> its released in my timezone
[08:01] <aayoola> it has been released
[08:01] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: maybe its because due to high load on the servers?
[08:02] <locke> man.. this sucks i just wanna listen to some music :p
[08:02] <usamahashimi> hello
[08:02] <aayoola> Does anyone use nagios here
[08:02] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: no its an intigrated graphics adapter I'm accully in proccess of rewriting xorg.conf
[08:02] <MothOnLovesFlame> can i upgrade by downloading the iso?
[08:02] <usamahashimi> I am behine proxy (using this irc from mibbit.com), I can not use adept, can anyone help me?
[08:03] <aayoola> I need someone who uses Nagios
[08:03] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: :| never heard of it. is it the output of           lspci | grep VGA          ?
[08:03] <benzon> wird accourding to the homepage, and the release channel its not yet out
[08:04] <MothOnLovesFlame> can i upgrade by downloading the iso?
[08:04] <aayoola> I need help with Nagios 3.0.2
[08:04] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: you need the alternative iso and use it as a cdrom source in synaptic
[08:04] <MothOnLovesFlame> ok
[08:05] <mandel59> Hello!
[08:05] <locke> cat /proc/asound/modules doesnt show the emu10k1
[08:05] <jim_p> hi
[08:05] <furanku> hello, since I recently upgraded to ubuntu 8.10, some Fn keys on my laptop (volume up/down/mute, 9 on the numpad emulation) don't work anymore. Is that a known problem ?
[08:06] <jim_p> furanku: laptop model or brand?
[08:06] <ubuntuPAGeekz> Jiom_p: output = 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corperation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[08:06] <MothOnLovesFlame> how do i use it as a cdrom source in synaptic?
[08:06] <furanku> jim_p: ASUS F8Sn
[08:06] <ogzy> instead of doing dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets and choosing yes, any settings file that i can enable cpufreq scaling, there is gconf entry /apps/gnome-power-manager/ui/cpufreq_show if i enable it will it do the same thing with dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:06] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: :( i dont know! can i tell you the command line way?
[08:06] <MothOnLovesFlame> yes
[08:06] <jim_p> furanku: give me some time
[08:07] <furanku> jim_p: cool, thanks
[08:07] <rodrif>  "/server zeta30"
[08:07] <gaintsura> Is there a way to change the desktop background on each workspace?
[08:07] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: you place the cdrom in the drive and             sudo apt-cdrom add
[08:07] <jim_p> gaintsura: only if you use a compiz plugin i think. gnome cant do it by default
[08:07] <thoreauputic> gaintsura: I think the "devilspie' package can do that
[08:07] <MothOnLovesFlame> i have a virtual cdrom how do i add that?
[08:07] <locke> meh i cant deal with this tonight i think im gonna go to bed
[08:07] <gaintsura> jim_p: which plugin?
[08:08] <locke> i'l be back tomorrow to try to figure it out
[08:08] <locke> night guys thanks for your help anyways
[08:08] <jim_p> gaintsura: i dont know, i dont use compiz
[08:08] <jim_p> locke: goodnight
[08:08] <Kartagis> I'm on 2.6.24-21-generic. why does it still exist in upgrades?
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Kartagis: security update
[08:08] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: virtualcdrom as in? are you on virtualbox or a program like daemon tools??
[08:08] <gaintsura> Kartagis: because there were new updates to it just a day or so ago
[08:09] <locke> i have some programming homework to do too, gotta implement a reliable data transfer protocol using an unreliable one (udp) but i cant think that hard right now, i'm just gonna start in the morning
[08:09] <locke> thank god i dont have to use windows at least
[08:09] <locke> i can use eclipse for that
[08:09] <MothOnLovesFlame> jim_p gmount-iso
[08:09] <gaintsura> locke: uhgly is windows =P
[08:09] <locke> it hast to be in java cause the framework is java, but at least i can use a real ide that works
[08:10] <locke> i tried netbeans when i was at school trying to do my homework but i hated it
[08:10] <benny> how do i boot 2 linux from 2 harddrive ?
[08:10] <locke> textpad is the best i used in windows and it provides no sort of help
[08:10] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: is "intel" as a driver correct for xorg?
[08:10] <locke> eclipse automatically resolves all classes and gives me autocompletion for all relevant functions and arguments
[08:10] <locke> makes it so much easier
[08:10] <tliff> locke: there's also eclipse for windows, you know? ;)
[08:10] <saftarn> I have a simple question, i removed the bottom panel(on the desktop) and put everything in the toppanel. but how do I add so every time i start an app an icon shows on the panel for the app?
[08:11] <locke> windows is a joke of a development environment from what i've seen
[08:11] <locke> tliff, yeah but it's not available at school
[08:11] <tliff> locke: that's true
[08:11] <jim_p> MothOnLovesFlame: well you mount it on gmount-iso like a normal iso and then sudo apt-cdrom add
[08:11] <mandel59> ttf-wqy-zenhei,that is a chinese font, has the fear of the copyright infringement.
[08:11] <locke> on my machine i can use whatever i want and using eclipse in linux i KNOW that it'll work in whatever my professor uses
[08:11] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know howi can have a small calender and syspen window on my desktop
[08:11] <locke> luckily, my professor uses textpad running in winxp in vmware running on top of ubuntu lol
[08:11] <locke> or suse
[08:12] <locke> he uses suse and ubuntu and just runs windows in a VM because most students run windows
[08:12] <jim_p> furanku: does it appear in lspci or lsusb?
[08:12] <locke> he actually hates windows and runs every windows app inside of linux
[08:12] <locke> i have a real good academic relationship with my professor
[08:12] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: X would not let me reconfigure. the system has the driver but the resolution wil not go past 600x800 I've been working on this damned thing since sunday non-stop. kinda pisses me off all my other systems are flawless under ubuntu
[08:13] <furanku> jim_p: do you mean the keyboard device ?
[08:13] <fredbear> ﻿saftarn: right click on panel then add to panel the window list app
[08:13] <locke> when i decided to get back into college this semester and i went to talk to him about the classes i was thinking about taking we ended up talking for like 3 hours about all sorts of stuff, much of it involving linux and the fact that the university uses microsoft for almost all of its servers and critical systgems
[08:14] <locke> he thinks they're retarded, as do i
[08:14] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: forget dpkg-reconfigure .... it is useless with the stupidity of the xorg devs. can you exit to command line and try           X -configure ? i will tell you the rest if it works
[08:14] <locke> and he refuses to run any microsoft product natively on any of his machines, as do i
[08:14] <ubuntakias> how can i install "poker.bin" file?
[08:14] <jim_p> furanku: yes
[08:14] <locke> and he runs all of his lectures using either powerpoint running in VM under linux or just straight in OO.o under linux
[08:15] <benny> how to i boot 2 linux from 2 harddrive ?
[08:15] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: can I Alt-F2 or do I need a hard bash screen
[08:15] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p:sorry ctrl-alt-f2
[08:15] <locke> most of the students have no idea and they all run windows, and he is far more open about his opinions and feelings on the matter with me because he knows how i feel about it
[08:15] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: you need to stop X from running
[08:15] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know how i can add calender window and a terminal window onto my desktop ?
[08:15] <outbackwifi> benny: you cant do it at the same time :)
[08:15] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:16] <furanku> jim_p: nothing keyboard related in lspci, and nothing at all in lsusb
[08:16] <locke> so in a lot of lectures he'll be talking about something and if it involves linux at all or anything advanced in general he always picks me out to give my opinions or answers on it to the rest of the class
[08:16] <jim_p> furanku: somewhere i can see the specifications of it then?
[08:16] <saftarn> I deleted the bttom panel and added that stuff to the top panel instead. But how do I make it so when I start an app an icon appears on the panel? There isn't a clear option to do this.
[08:16] <locke> so i end up talking like 15 mins out of every 1hr 15min lecture that i go to :P
[08:16] <benny> outbackwifi:no i try repair like 3 time still didnt work
[08:16] <outbackwifi> saftarn: you need to add the window list to the panel
[08:16] <thoreauputic> locke: I think #ubuntu-offtopic is ---> that way :)
[08:16] <ubuntakias> how can i install "poker.bin" file? ??
[08:16] <furanku> jim_p: I'm searching on the web
[08:16] <locke> yeah yeah i'm going to bed
[08:16] <jim_p> saftarn: you mean you want it to show the open windows?
[08:17] <fredbear> ﻿saftarn: if you right click on the panel and select add to panel, then select the windows list app
[08:17] <saftarn> outbackwifi, thanks
[08:17] <saftarn> done
[08:17] <outbackwifi> saftarn: yw
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ubuntakias: what does the file do? Is it a program?
[08:17] <ubuntakias> is a game..
[08:17] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: its just sitting there staring at me
[08:17] <ubuntakias> but is .bin and it doesnt do anything...
[08:17] <JewingGum> Why 8.10 is still not out :(
[08:18] <locke> well crap i guess i gotta stay up for another half hour or so.. my best friend got in a fight with his roommate so he's coming to stay with me.. suck..  i'm gonna take off night guys
[08:18] <JewingGum> What is the name of that ubuntu party channel???
[08:18] <jim_p> furanku: Keyboard         19mm full size 88 Key with MS Windows function keys          is what asus says
[08:18] <genii> !isitout | JewingGum
[08:18] <thoreauputic> ubuntakias: try  opening a terminal and running  ' bash poker.bin '
[08:18] <jim_p> ubuntakias: from a terminal        sudo sh poker.bin
[08:18] <afanc1> ihfor GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met:No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[08:18] <afanc1> Hi, what is the problem
[08:18] <furanku> jim_p: oh, if that's all you need, then yes
[08:19] <thoreauputic> jim_p: the sudo may not be a good idea unless it's an installer, and sh is Dash so bash may be safer
[08:19] <furanku> jim_p: mine is a german keyboard, but I'm using the standard UK layout, if that matters
[08:19] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: blank screen at all?   can you reisub? damn that vesa bug
[08:20] <benzon> Option "VideoOverlay" "on" where to add this setting in xorg.conf
[08:20] <jim_p> furanku: well, you need a module to make the Fn keys work. what is that module?
[08:20] <angryuser> my openser server does not retransmit OK or BYE ;( i am using loose_route and sending directly to route(1) #dispatcher, any ideas ?
[08:21] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Hi, is there an actual release time for the new 8.10 today or will it be whenever they feel like posting it?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> !isitout
[08:21] <paul68> !isitout
[08:21] <TheDeepFriedBoot> ok, ty
[08:21] <groov-> !isitout
[08:21] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: got to bash it reconfigured on its own can not get all of the out put due to being a commandline
[08:21] <jim_p> afanc1: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:22] <saftarn> How do I enable mouse-scrolling?
[08:22] <massmc> How come 8.10 got delayed? is it fine to download the candidate? is it the same?
[08:22] <rski> massmc: 8.10 is not delayed.
[08:22] <rski> massmc: is it not the same.
[08:22] <thoreauputic> massmc: not delayed, yes and no
[08:23] <massmc> ahh ok, I thought it was suppose to be released yesterday
[08:23] <joshux> !isitout
[08:23] <paul68> massmsc realese date 30/10/2008
[08:23] <kantor> hi
[08:23] <furanku> jim_p: seems to be asus_laptop
[08:24] <ubuntuPAGeekz> howdy
[08:24] <massmc> ahh i'm a day ahead 10+ GMT lol, my mistake.. thank you
[08:24] <jim_p> furanku: is tit loaded?
[08:24] <furanku> jim_p: yes
[08:24] <jim_p> furanku: lsmod | grep asus
[08:25] <kantor> do you guys think that hardy heron is stable enough to be used as a critical data handler server ?
[08:25] <furanku> jim_p: asus_laptop            24440  0
[08:25] <furanku> jim_p:
[08:25] <furanku> jim_p: led_class              12164  2 iwlcore,asus_laptop
[08:25] <jim_p> kantor: no. use debian stable for critical situations like you say
[08:25] <drumstyk1> could someone recommend a program or command to reencode a full length avi movie to optimize it for viewing on a 320 x 320 phone screen?
[08:26] <jim_p> drumstyk1: avidemux
[08:26] <drumstyk1> thanks jim_p!
[08:27] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know how i can get desklets onto my system and display them on my desktp
[08:27]  * stimpie is still waiting for 8.10
[08:27]  * thoreauputic runs screaming at the mention of desklets
[08:27] <stimpie> drumstyk1, ffmpeg
[08:27] <drumstyk1> Dorobo18jp: i know i am not answering your exact Q but have you checked out screenlets?
[08:28] <Dorobo18jp> no have not yet
[08:28] <paul68> !beer |thoreayputic
[08:28]  * ether_c is 10 minutes away from giving up on the release and going to sleep
[08:28] <jim_p> furanku: can you set keyboard shortcuts with these keys in System >Preferences >Keyboard shortcuts ?
[08:28] <drumstyk1> stimpie: would you recommend that over avidemux for a linux noob?
[08:28] <kantor> jim_p, where can I see hardy's bug status ? is there a webpage ?
[08:29] <jim_p> kantor: dunno
[08:29] <massmc> ether_c, I'm going to bed now, can you burn me a copy and bring it to my house first thing in the morning.. thx
[08:29] <genii> !coffee
[08:29]  * genii decides to have some
[08:29] <furanku> jim_p: no, I can't no reaction. That's only the case with volume up/down/mute and 9, all other Fn keys work
[08:29] <thoreauputic> kantor: probably bugs,ubuntu.com which is actually launchpad
[08:29] <furanku> jim_p: oh, and the wireless switch doesn't have any effect either
[08:30] <kantor> ok, thanks thoreauputic
[08:30] <stimpie> drumstyk1, avidemux is a 'editing application' ffmpeg a simple commandline application. If you know the commands you need its very simple
[08:30] <jim_p> furanku: the wireless on key? what wireless are you on? did you install something recently?
[08:30] <stimpie> drumstyk1, google 'ffmpeg avi to 3gp'
[08:30] <dyffryn> sup kids
[08:31] <thoreauputic> kantor: I typoed that - try http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[08:31] <zamba> i need a tool for editing raw ts streams.. what can be used?
[08:31] <drumstyk1> i will check that out now, stimpie, thanks a lot
[08:31] <jim_p> opera 9.62 is out
[08:31] <furanku> jim_p: yes, the wireless on key. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly after what update it started to happen
[08:31] <Swilky> ﻿Hi guys, is there a known problem with ssh at all for uploading to a ssh server VERY slow speeds... but when downloading speed is fine? ﻿LAN environment ﻿full-duplex gigabit ﻿upload i get 300~500kbs and download i get 20MB a sec
[08:31] <nachi_> hey , when im trying to setup on ubuntu 8 ftp server its writes me once i try to connect : FileZilla Server version .... i think its installed there instad of vsftpd that i installed now, how can i remove it?
[08:31] <dyffryn> i'm liking 8.10, works better on release day than 8.04 was
[08:32] <kantor> ok
[08:32] <notdkw> Swilky: From winscp or something? using scp / sftp ?
[08:32] <Swilky> yes on my windows machine
[08:33] <benny> can someone tell me how to boot linux from 2 harddrive
[08:33] <chronosx> how to unbind something done with mount --bind folderSrc folderDst ?
[08:33] <Swilky> and im not sure what the built in app in ubuntu is
[08:33] <notdkw> Swilky: when you download via a secure connection, the encryption is handled by the server, upload via a secure connection, the encryption is handled by the client. Windows has massive issues with this, quite a few threads in winscp's forums about it, to this day, no fix.
[08:33] <nachi_> um
[08:33] <Swilky> what about the ubuntu client?
[08:34] <notdkw> Swilky: linux to linux your speeds will be fine.
[08:34] <Swilky> the same thing is happing in linux tho
[08:34] <notdkw> Swilky: sorry, nfi then... :)
[08:35] <Swilky> kk cheers for the info tho ... big help
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Swilky: just a guess - run ethtool and see if you are actually getting full duplex at both ends
[08:35] <Swilky> yeah done
[08:35] <Swilky> full duplex
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Swilky: ah OK - no idea then :(
[08:36] <KNRO> Anyone knows at what time (GMT) is 8.10 going to be released?
[08:36] <dyffryn> is there a release party room this time?
[08:36] <blizzkid> lo all. Does anyone know a tool to draw flowcharts from perl code? (it has to work in Ubuntu offcourse)
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !isitout
[08:36] <drumstyk1> stimpie: would you happen to know if you need to specify a resolution in the conversion command for ffmpeg? i am looking at a few guides on google and none mention it but i suppose i could go dig through the man pages
[08:36] <Inphoar> Hey.
[08:37] <Jork> hello
[08:37] <Inphoar> Anyone know what time its' coming?
[08:37] <jim_p> furadid anyone try to update opera today?
[08:37] <jim_p> ooooops
[08:37] <jim_p> anyone try to update opera today?
[08:38] <Jork> does anybody know what time today intrepid will be avaible?
[08:38] <saftarn_> Im tyring to svae to /usr/local/bin/ but i have no permission. how do ic reate file in the command line?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> !isitout
[08:38]  * outbackwifi have never tried opera; forget about today :)
[08:38] <Gnuboi> is there any keylogger for
[08:38] <Gnuboi> ubuntu
[08:38] <overkill> hi
[08:39]  * thoreauputic wonders if all new joins should be redirected to #ubuntu-release-party (just kidding)
 Im tyring to svae to /usr/local/bin/ but i have no permission. how do ic reate file in the command line?
[08:39] <aayoola> touch filename
[08:40] <thoreauputic> sudo
[08:40] <sidewalk> has 8.10 been released yet?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> aayoola: needs sudo in /usr/local/
[08:40] <Inphoar> Ah, to #ubuntu-release-party then. Didn't know.
[08:40] <Intey> @ sidewalk: nope
[08:41] <kholerabbitwo> sidewalk: no.. see #ubuntu-realease-party chatroom
[08:41] <thoreauputic> GENERAL RE_ANNOUNCEMENT: Please read the TOPIC
[08:41] <kakoonia> !isitout
[08:41] <Intey> well...define "released"
[08:41] <Intey> -.-
[08:41] <scientus> i cant find anything on PXE boot server in ubuntu
[08:41] <scientus> how do i ser one up
[08:41] <scientus> either modern ubuntu or debian walthroughs should work
[08:41] <polatov> When official release 8.10?
[08:42] <Bearcat> ok i am at a loss here
[08:42] <zloy> hi all
[08:42] <kiyiko> i am having an issue installing ubuntu: in the part, were you set up the partitions, there is nothing listed.
[08:42] <thoreauputic> polatov: /topic
[08:42] <gynterk> hello, is it possible to downgrade firefox 3.0.3 to firefox 2 series?
[08:42] <Intey> @ polatov ^^^we dont know...
[08:42] <gynterk> ubuntu hardy
[08:42] <zloy> my congratulations
[08:42] <polatov> zloy, задай этот вопрос )))
[08:42] <Bearcat> if i run an install using the alternate CD will it upgrade what i have or erase everything?
[08:42] <zloy> polatov: какой?
[08:42] <zloy> guys
[08:43] <gynterk> nevermind
[08:43] <zloy> when release 8.10 is expected?
[08:43] <gynterk> already found ff-2 from repos
[08:43] <gynterk> thanks
[08:43] <diginux> so.. i will never use xlock during a major update again ;)
[08:43] <Jork> when release 8.10 is expected?
[08:43] <polatov> ))
[08:43] <Intey> lol
[08:43] <Intey> ^^
[08:43] <zloy> ?
[08:43] <zloy> what?
[08:43] <Intey> to all those asking for the release, "we dont know"
[08:43] <JohnyN> Release of Interpid is today, isn't it?
[08:44] <zloy> sorry, for man good english
[08:44] <Intey> yeah
[08:44] <Intey> sure it is
[08:44] <zloy> JohnyN: yeah, it us
[08:44] <zloy> *is
[08:44] <prince_jammys> i'm pretty surprised by the extreme enthuasiasm and anticipation over the intrepid release. i think ubuntu has driven you guys nuts.
[08:44] <benny> i dont know how to boot 2 ubuntu form 2 drive /?
[08:44] <Jork> prince soure it is
[08:44] <Intey> just "when exactly" depends on some ppl @ some release party it seems
[08:44] <ubuntuPAGeekz> :jim_p
[08:44] <Jork> shure ?
[08:44] <zloy> Ubuntu trust us!
[08:44] <saftarn_> How can I add mouse-scrolling?
[08:44] <Jork> to die for ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:45] <Jork> :D
[08:45] <zloy> Jork: (:
[08:45] <ubuntuPAGeekz> any idea where i can get an ubuntu flag to fly outside my house?
[08:45] <ubuntuPAGeekz> ive been dieing to find one
[08:45] <prince_jammys> yeah, definitely nuts.
[08:45] <jim_p> lmao!!!
[08:45] <JohnyN> And.. when it will available from ubuntu.com ? There is still only Hardy. I don't know what time it is now, in America. So, when it will be available for download?
[08:45] <nagimka> When official release 8.10?
[08:45] <Dorobo18jp> how can i find the path to my evolution email inbox?
[08:46] <ubuntuPAGeekz> :jim_p so blank screen now what
[08:46] <polatov> давай nagimka ))))
[08:46] <polatov> красавец
[08:46] <nagimka> сyyкаааа
[08:46] <Jork> today should bi a national holiday
[08:46] <zloy> )))
[08:46] <Jork> day of ubuntu
[08:46] <nagimka> :'(
[08:46] <Jork> :D
[08:47] <nagimka> меня подстааавилиииии
[08:47] <JohnyN> Jork: yeah, good idea :-)
[08:47] <zloy> Ubuntu or die
[08:47] <Intey> bluebuntu ))
[08:47] <zloy> !
[08:47] <Gnuboi> is there any keylogger for ubuntu
[08:47] <rski> Gnuboi: it's called bash history
[08:47] <rski> and it's on by default
[08:47] <rski> :P
[08:47] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: did you reisub?
[08:47] <Jork> Gnuboi what kond of keylogger do you hawe in mind?
[08:47] <Gnuboi> not for bash
[08:48] <Jork> kind*
[08:48] <Gnuboi> all the window recorder
[08:48] <Jork> have*
[08:48] <polatov> we want new ubuntu
[08:48] <Gnuboi> pidgin firefox
[08:48] <outbackwifi> !ru | nagimka
[08:48] <polatov> what we must to do for it
[08:48] <outbackwifi> !isitout | polatov
[08:48] <Jork> participate in open source
[08:48] <Jork> RESPECT TO UBUNTU DEVELOPERS!!!
[08:48] <zloy> Ubuntu or die!
[08:49] <polatov> russian guys want new ubuntu
[08:49] <mib_4xuhnr> Will Kubuntu 8.10 be released at the same time as Ubuntu 8.10 (or a few days later?)    -   And does Kubuntu use KDE 4.0 or 4.1 ?
[08:49] <polatov> russian-speak guys want new ubuntu
[08:49] <outbackwifi> !isitout | mib_4xuhnr
[08:49] <outbackwifi> !ru | polatov
[08:49] <ubuntuPAGeekz> jim_p: bear with me I think I may have got it
[08:49] <zloy> nativity of Ubuntu
[08:49] <zloy> !
[08:50] <elvis123> if i created a /boot partition (/dev/sda1) which bootloader should I install as both lilo and grub fails?
[08:50] <outbackwifi> elvis123: why do they fail?
[08:50] <zloy> elvis123: you should install GRUB
[08:50] <troubled> elvis123: is /boot < 1024 cylinder?
[08:51] <kiyiko> i am trying to install ubuntu, via live session, booted from flash drive...but the partition setup shows no drives.
[08:51] <outbackwifi> kiyiko: what is the system config esp hard drives
[08:51] <kiyiko> outbackwifi, what does that mean?
[08:51] <troubled> elvis123: sorry, missed the sda1 so I would assume it starts at the begining of the drive
[08:52] <elvis123> yes
[08:52] <sidewalk> has 8.10 been released yet?
[08:52] <ubuntuPAGeekz> nope
[08:52] <paul68> !isitout
[08:52] <nagimka> yes
[08:52] <outbackwifi> kiyiko: what is the configuration of your system; also we would like to know if you have any non standard hard disks
[08:52] <nagimka> it been released
[08:52] <sidewalk> tnx
[08:52] <nagimka> yesterday yet
[08:52] <zloy> )))
[08:52] <troubled> elvis123: did you get any particular error?
[08:53] <paul68> nagimka not in europe
[08:53] <troubled> elvis123: also, what fails? installing grub/lilo, or booting with it?
[08:53] <elvis123> installing it
[08:53] <troubled> error?
[08:53] <zloy> how can i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 in terminal?
[08:54] <zloy> what  command?
[08:54] <outbackwifi> elvis123: at the grub prompt if you say root (0,0) what does it say?
[08:54] <kiyiko> outbackwifi, um.... i have 2 ide harddrives, one 40gig -fat32   and a 120, split into 60g -ext3 and 40g-ntfs
[08:54] <XRolando> is it out?? :D
[08:54] <Slart> !update
[08:54] <paul68> !isitout
[08:54] <sebdah> zloy: should be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:54] <XRolando> haha, thanks :)
[08:54] <Slart> ubottu sleeping?
[08:54] <zloy> sebdah: thank you
[08:55] <outbackwifi> ubottu ubuntu
[08:55] <polatov> Aceler, спроси насчет релиза
[08:55] <troubled> Slart: slatibartfast?
[08:55] <outbackwifi> kiyiko: and these dont show up at all?
[08:55] <nagimka> а когда же релиз то будет, товарисчи? я тут жду-жду понимаете ли, а его все нету
[08:55] <Slart> troubled: yes.. I admit.. one blast of non-creativity on a dark day 15 years ago.. guilty as charged
[08:55] <zloy> guys, wellcome to #ubuntu-ru
[08:55] <outbackwifi> !ru | nagimka polatov
[08:56] <troubled> Slart: :) bit of a hellraiser myself
[08:56] <polatov> nagimka, )))
[08:56] <kiyiko> outbackwifi, nothing shows up. would booting from flash drive, instead of standard cd, affect the partition manager, while installing?
[08:56] <Javabean> `
[08:56] <elvis123> how do i get to a grub prompt
[08:56] <outbackwifi> kiyiko: no
[08:56] <outbackwifi> elvis123: type grub
[08:56] <troubled> elvis123: try grub yet?
[08:56] <saftarn_> How do I get mouse-scrolling?
[08:57] <zloy> saftarn_: for what?
[08:57] <elvis123> not found
[08:57] <polatov> pizdec
[08:57] <zloy> saftarn_: what mouse?
[08:57] <zloy> pizdec-2
[08:57] <saftarn_> what mouse? the computer-mouse
[08:57] <zloy> polatov: go home
[08:57] <aguitel> is intrepid at the servers ?
[08:57] <troubled> elvis123: apt-get install grub?
[08:57] <saftarn_> when i move the wheel i like windows to move
[08:58] <saftarn_> or to scroll upor down to be correct
[08:58] <troubled> elvis123: should be a simple: grub-install /dev/sda
[08:58] <bingungaja> can i change my mouse point ? how ?
[08:58] <outbackwifi> elvis123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[08:59] <kiyiko> outbackwifi, have we any idea? i dont know what could be the matter
[08:59] <mrevell> Hello, when's it out?
[08:59] <mrevell> :)
[08:59] <elvis123> apt-get not found
[08:59] <troubled> ?
[08:59] <Slart> !isitout | mrevell
[08:59] <thumper> mrevell: right that does it! I'm killing a kitten
[08:59] <outbackwifi> elvis123: what os are you on?
[08:59] <ganes> anyone tell me how to get the output of grub prompt to any file
[08:59]  * mrevell apologies for bating
[08:59] <mwhudson> what's bating?
[09:00] <sebdah> I don't get any scrollback in gnome-terminal when using screen. But when I use rxvt with the same .screenrc I get scrollback. Any suggestions?
[09:00] <elvis123> ubuntu 8.04 server
[09:00] <troubled> elvis123: are you root
[09:00] <mrevell> mwhudson: I dunno but I'm really good at it. A master, if you will
[09:00] <nagimka> Comrads release is COME!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:00] <polatov>  Comrads release is COME!!!!
[09:00] <mech> :-D
[09:00] <devsoul> polatov, when ?
[09:00] <zloy> devsoul: тщц
[09:00] <zloy> noe
[09:01] <crdlb> sebdah: eh? you don't want scrollback via the terminal when using screen. enter copy mode with Ctrl+A [, then you can use the arrow keys and pg up/down
[09:01] <zloy> bliad'
[09:01] <zloy> now
[09:01] <bingungaja> can i change my mouse point ? how ?
[09:01] <nagimka> it's COME!!!!
[09:01] <devsoul> zloy,  from where u r ?
[09:01] <troubled> nagimka: ?
[09:01] <zloy> devsoul: USA
[09:01] <sebdah> crdlb: Yeah :) that was a good one. I usually use the terminals scrollback
[09:01] <sebdah> crdlb: thanks!
[09:02] <elvis123> if i do grub-install /dev/sda i get Wrong number of args
[09:02] <elvis123> how would i know if i am root?
[09:02] <tliff> elvis123: enter "whoami"
[09:02] <HolyGoat> elvis123: whoami
[09:02] <sebdah> elvis123: whoami
[09:02] <sebdah> :)
[09:02] <Cruster> hi all
[09:02] <sebdah> Cruster: hi
[09:02] <babo> how do i connect to a wireless network ?
[09:02] <Kaxsp> downloading links?
[09:02] <elvis123> no found
[09:02] <babo> i'm using gnome
[09:03] <troubled> hmm
[09:03] <elvis123> *not
[09:03] <HolyGoat> whoami not found..?
[09:03] <elvis123> jip
[09:03] <troubled> elvis123: what about: /usr/bin/whoami
[09:03] <sebdah> elvis123: open a terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and then type "whoami"
[09:03] <Cruster> will ubuntu 8.10 final have many changes from yesterday's daily-build?
[09:04] <elvis123> hold a sec... this is a new installation. booted from cd...
[09:04] <speakman> so, at what time is 8.10 released? :)
[09:04] <rski> speakman: no one knows
[09:04] <paul68> !isitout
[09:04] <outbackwifi> bingungaja: go here and download --> http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=36&PHPSESSID=3ba72b560d26654fe8f9ecf80e67995d
[09:04] <speakman> oh, jumping...:)
[09:05] <troubled> elvis123: have you even installed yet?
[09:05] <outbackwifi> speakman: everytime someone asks, they push the release forward by 2 hours; its already at 03 Nov 2230
[09:05] <nachi_> how to i run a command on ubuntu starts ?
[09:05] <troubled> nachi_: debian uses /etc/rc.local, if that helps
[09:05] <elvis123> installed the base systems
[09:06] <Cruster> I've been waiting so many time to install ubuntu on my laptop.............can't stand vista.....
[09:06] <speakman> oh great! if people just keep asking, we might have a 9.04 pretty soon! :D
[09:06] <elvis123> but i cant install either grub or lilo
[09:06] <klos> whats the shortcut for executing a command?
[09:06] <nachi_> i want to run this command: inadyn --background --username amir
[09:06] <paul68> outbackwifi: you wish
[09:06] <nachi_> so i do a newfile?
[09:06] <HolyGoat> klos: alt+f2
[09:06] <klos> hm doenst work
[09:06] <troubled> nachi_: do you have an /etc/rc.local file?
[09:07] <HolyGoat> klos: What do you use?
[09:07] <Asara> is it safer to apt-get upgrade or to do a clean install from CD wenn Ibex (8.10) is released?
[09:07] <troubled> nachi_: not entirely sure if ubuntu mirrors debian in that area
[09:07] <paul68> outbackwifi: that's how you get to the answer I wait a month before installing the new distro :)
[09:07] <babo> can i turn my dyndns A record redirection into something more permanent ? Can i get it to update the ip address when my ip address changes ?
[09:07] <troubled> babo: inadyn works for me
[09:07] <outbackwifi> paul68: almost close; but more for stability
[09:08] <paul68> outbackwifi: I got your drift
[09:08] <outbackwifi> babo: yes, you need to install the client
[09:08] <klos> HolyGoat, what do you mena
[09:08] <klos> my window manager jsut dies so i want to restart emerald
[09:08] <klos> :)
[09:08] <troubled> babo: although, the inadyn that I have in debian etch doesnt seem to work with the 4 hr timeout zones, only the 60 second one. not sure about ubuntu's version
[09:08] <klos> ill use nohup and the terminal;
[09:08] <elvis123> shall i just skip the install bootloader?
[09:08] <troubled> elvis123: not if you want to boot :)
[09:09] <outbackwifi> elvis123: you could if you didnt want to boot at all :)
[09:09] <troubled> elvis123: whats the error when the installer tries to install it?
[09:09] <outbackwifi> elvis123: select mbr
[09:09] <Asara> anyone got any advice on which method to use to upgrade to 8.10, cd or apt-get/
[09:09] <HolyGoat> klos: oh, I thought you meant you were inside e.g. gnome
[09:09] <Asara> ?
[09:09] <Intey> asaras question +1
[09:10] <selinuxium> hi all, I am trying to get an ICON 255 3g USB modem working on Intrepid... Is this the right channel? or is it +1?
[09:10] <klos> HolyGoat, yes i was, dunno soemthing wrong with my system, nevermind :)
[09:10] <elvis123> hold a sec
[09:10] <DJones> selinuxium: Still +1 at the minute
[09:10] <selinuxium> HI DJones :) over to next channel :)
[09:10] <troubled> Asara: in debian, apt-get has been good to me. as is aptitude </$.02>
[09:10] <bigbug> bonjour
[09:11] <troubled> bigbug: hello
[09:11] <Intey> cava
[09:11] <Asara> troubled: thanks, i'll try that then, probably will back up my home folder first
[09:11] <lo2> siemno
[09:11] <paul68> !fr bigbug intey
[09:11] <troubled> Asara: its unlikely that you would loose your home folders
[09:11] <paul68> !fr |bigbug intey
[09:12] <Asara> troubled: oh, k. how long does it take using apt-get/aptitude?
[09:12] <lo2> Do you speak Polish??
[09:12] <troubled> Asara: generally it really comes down to your bandwidth to download everything
[09:12] <Intey> lol sry paul im german ;)
[09:12] <troubled> Asara: usually looking at a few hundred mb for dist-upgrade's in debian os's
[09:12] <elvis123> when i try and install grub i get red screen installation step failed no error msg
[09:13] <Asara> troubled: ah, nice...i'm sitting on a university internet line, so i'll probably choose the closest mirror to me and i'll be fine
[09:13] <troubled> Asara: probably :) expect to spent a good 20min installing after download though, give or take
[09:14] <elvis123> on lilo i have 2 target options: /dev/sda or other choice
[09:14] <Asara> troubled: that's actually not much, i was expecting worse
[09:14] <troubled> elvis123: /dev/sda for your sda mbr
[09:15] <troubled> Asara: really depends what you have installed. if you dont have X installed and just had a fileserver, the whole thing would be done in 5min probably
[09:15] <lo2> Where are you from??
[09:15] <mistform> i just plugged my CDrom back into my IDE port
[09:15]  * outbackwifi men are from mars and women are from venus
[09:15] <mistform> how do I get it to work again? lol
[09:15] <troubled> Asara: soon as you add gnome or kde, OOo and all your bin/sbin updates, your looking at a few hundred packages and 500mb+ download
[09:15] <elvis123> on selecting /dev/sda software RAID array i get: running /sbin/lilo failed with error code 1
[09:16] <lo2> That rights
[09:16] <Asara> troubled: yeah, got a pretty standard install here, gnome and a few extra packages. thanks for the help btw
[09:16] <pookey> hi all - does anyone know how I get dpkg to give me a list of thigns I've installed, excluding dependencies that might have been pulled in for them?
[09:16] <troubled> elvis123: using raid? might want to setup to use /dev/sda1 then and mark it bootable in fdisk
[09:17] <zloy> Ubuntu or die!
[09:17] <nachi_> i got a router and i want to get into apache behind the router, how can i config it? the internal ip address of the machine is 192.168.1.143
[09:17] <troubled> zloy: debian!
[09:17] <troubled> ;)
[09:17] <elvis123> it is like that
[09:17] <zloy> troubled: Ubuntu!
[09:17] <troubled> heh
[09:17] <lo2> Are they speaking Polish??
[09:17] <troubled> zloy: respect your elders!
[09:18] <zloy> troubled: you're untrue!
[09:18] <MeanMachine> hello : How i can connect from my home PC to my shell box(linux) (I am new)
[09:18] <elvis123> troubled: /dev/sda1 is marked as bootable
[09:18] <troubled> elvis123: did it like sda1 better?
[09:18] <zloy> MeanMachine: ssh
[09:18] <olistik> hi there
[09:18] <nagimka> its COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:18] <lo2> Gays...
[09:18] <troubled> wth are you guys so jumpy about tonight?
[09:18] <zloy> UBUNTU or die!
[09:18] <lo2> Apocalypto!!!!!!!!!!!111
[09:18] <olistik> when the intrepid ibex will be public? :)
[09:18] <nmh_j2graw> zloy: die
[09:18] <rski> troubled: landmines!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:18] <rski> olistik: no one knows
[09:18] <ganes> anyone tell me how to get the output of grub prompt to any file
[09:19] <lo2> Party...? When...? Where...?
[09:19] <zloy> nmh_j2graw: windows?
[09:19] <elvis123> troubled i get the same error
[09:19] <MeanMachine> can u be more exactly ?
[09:19] <troubled> rski: I gather that the next release is coming out soon?
[09:19] <elvis123> running /sbin/lilo failed with error code 1
[09:19] <rski> sometime today
[09:19] <lo2> Where?
[09:19] <troubled> elvis123: try grub on it perhaps?
[09:19] <troubled> not really up on lilo these days
[09:20] <elvis123> grub also fails
[09:20] <elvis123> tried that already
[09:20] <troubled> with sda1 though?
[09:20] <elvis123> or what i know
[09:20] <Buntu765> Hey Matt you out there man
[09:20] <elvis123> yes
[09:20] <MeanMachine> how do i run ssh ?
[09:20] <matiass> hello people
[09:20] <Buntu765> paubuntugeekz
[09:20] <zloy> elvis123: what you problem, follower?
[09:20] <lo2> Where???
[09:20] <lo2> Where thats party?
[09:21] <saftarn> can i change the coor layout of ubuntu? the brown/orange/grey is nice but i want to try something else
[09:21] <troubled> MeanMachine: server or cclient?
[09:21] <matiass> tell me when i can ask you a question - technical one
[09:21] <DJones> !ask > matiass
[09:22] <lo2> Where that s party???
[09:22] <Buntu765> :jim_p having a problem with my webcam it wants to stay on when i boot and wont turn off and dosent let me use it in programs?
[09:22] <Neaai> A newbie question. In a laptop installation, I plug the external monitor but it won't show anything, it's as if unplugged. What am I missing to activate it ?
[09:22] <saftarn> can i change the coor layout of ubuntu? the brown/orange/grey is nice but i want to try something else
[09:22] <lo2> preety boobvs
[09:22] <lo2> boobs
[09:22] <elvis123> troubled: when i try and install grub like this: grub-install /dev/sda or with sda1 i get wrong number of args mapdevfs <path>
[09:22] <MeanMachine> troubled ..i wanna connect my shellbox from my pc..before i wsed winscp ..now i am useless ( new to ubunto)
[09:22] <lo2> pussy
[09:22] <DJones> !ops | lo2
[09:23] <jim_p> Buntu765: prevent the module fot loading
[09:23] <jim_p> *from
[09:23] <troubled> elvis123: try google for that error + ubuntu
[09:23] <matiass> My question is , i bought a new machine and when i tried yesterday to install INTREPID BETA , after i boot from disc and go to Install i have an error like a hardware one...
[09:23] <nmh_j2graw> Neaai: <unhelp> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[09:23] <matiass> INT BUG 6 ------ and lot of adresses
[09:23] <troubled> MeanMachine: ssh hostname.of.the.machine.here.com
[09:24] <Neaai> nmh_j2graw: I will look at that right away
[09:24] <nmh_j2graw> saftarn: <unhelp> http://art.gnome.org/
[09:24] <MeanMachine> can i use the IP ?
[09:24] <troubled> sure
[09:24] <Buntu765> :jim_p how do i do that can u walk me through it please
[09:24] <nmh_j2graw> Neaai: it is just a starting point, but hopefully you can track from it
[09:24] <troubled> MeanMachine: by default it will use the user name you are logged in with though. use "ssh user@ip.address.here" to override it
[09:24] <jim_p> Buntu765: what its the cameras module?? lsusb
[09:25] <Buntu765> im a newbie where do i find that out?
[09:25] <DJ_> is there any LAN chat application
[09:25] <mordof> if my user is the only user on my server that can log in, is it still a bad idea to give full permissions to everyone on my /www folder (777 basically)?
[09:25] <troubled> DJ_: irc? ;)
[09:26] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: yes, imho and why would you want to?
[09:26] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: because i'm struggling trying to get permissions set up right. i'm not that good with this
[09:26] <Buntu765> :jim_p where do i look for that?
[09:26] <_coredump_> moinsen
[09:27] <jim_p> Buntu765: pastebin me your lsusb
[09:27] <qp> @ nmh_j2graw:   google IPMsg
[09:27] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: what are you tyring to do (duh, setup a website/webserver), but really, are you using static html? how are you editing?
[09:27] <Buntu765> :jim_p where do i find lsub and ill do it
[09:27] <troubled> elvis123: curious, what fs type are you using for /boot?
[09:28] <nmh_j2graw> qp: ?
[09:28] <jim_p> Buntu765: open up a terminal and type lsusb
[09:28] <elvis123> ext3
[09:28] <qp> @DJ_  google IPMsg
[09:28] <qp> @nmh_j2graw  %_%.
[09:28] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: i was using ssh + WinSCP (my main comp is XP).. so i made /www chown server:www-data (server is the server username >.> lol) every time i create a new file, i have to ssh in and chown/chmod the folder again or apache can't read it
[09:28] <MeanMachine> i cant connect on port 22...how i change to another port ?or is default 22?
[09:28] <nmh_j2graw> qp: haha
[09:28] <xHemlock> Do you guys find that Kubuntu isn't as stable as Ubuntu?
[09:29] <troubled> MeanMachine: 22 is the default
[09:29] <shesek> xHemlock, I find that KDE isn't stable as Gnome
[09:29] <MeanMachine> i cant changeee it?
[09:29] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: it's a pain, i don't know how to set it up so that it'd just work without me doing that.. and now, i'm using svn+ssh, and i want to make svn update my website with the latest revision.. that's gonna make things even more complicated
[09:29] <troubled> MeanMachine: do you know your server is listening on a diff port?
[09:29] <Buntu765> :jim_p Bus 005 Device 003: ID 13b1:0020 Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]
[09:29] <Buntu765> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 04fc:0561 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100
[09:29] <Buntu765> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:29] <Buntu765> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:29] <Buntu765> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:29] <FloodBot3> Buntu765: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <Buntu765> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:29] <DJ_> is there any LAN chat application ?
[09:29] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: what file permissions do the files end up with before you fix them? (sounds like you could fix it via umask, or world readable)
[09:29] <MeanMachine> yep
[09:29] <troubled> MeanMachine: sure, add -p <port>
[09:29] <xHemlock> I don't agree that KDE isn
[09:29] <nmh_j2graw> DJ_: yes, you are using it, congratulations
[09:30] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: svn sounds hard, lets go shopping
[09:30] <Buntu765> sorry
[09:30] <DJ_> how can i use it to chat with windows user over local LAN
[09:30] <troubled> DJ_: you mean like winpopup.exe?
[09:30] <xHemlock> I don't agree that KDE isn't stable. KDE is stable in OpenSUSE
[09:30] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: rwxrws  permissions
[09:30] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: shopping?
[09:30] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: rwxrws  server:server   WinSCP uploads them as
[09:30] <troubled> DJ_: apt-cache show linpopup
[09:31] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: do you want the server to check out the files for your site?
[09:31] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: not sure what you mean
[09:32] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: (shopping was a joke)  apache won't serve stuff that is not world readable (anyone can read), iirc.
[09:32] <troubled> DJ_: although, you can just send messages using smbclient -M, iirc
[09:32] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: apache will serve stuff that the apache user has read permissions to
[09:32] <scientus> there should be a memory wipe option on the boot menu, or at least the memory test program
[09:32] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: it can be only r under www-data:www-data and apache could serve it
[09:32] <kinnaz> scientus there are things like that on bootable cds
[09:32] <mistform> can I get some help? I can't seem to get my DVD rom to show up
[09:32] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: http://www.tech-faq.com/umask.shtml
[09:32] <Buntu765> :jim_p did u get that
[09:32] <kinnaz> scientus memory test that is, memory is wiped with every poweroff
[09:32] <jeppe> anyone with a tip om a good web tool to create xhtml/php?
[09:32] <DJ_> troubled:suposse at ip 192,.168.0.3 i want to send a message.how can i do that
[09:32] <troubled> kinnaz: most grub installs let you add a memtest86 option
[09:33] <kinnaz> troubled by hand then, havent seen option of that kind with any setup
[09:33] <scientus> kinnaz, does it actually write zeros to the memory?
[09:33] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: i've been told about this before from what i remember, but i didn't manage to get it working right
[09:33] <mattfletcher> The countdown on the Ubuntu homepage is broken - seems someone forgot to add an image for "0 days to go"
[09:33] <Jonny> Anyone know of an app that can read WMA tags? I found that extract and mplayer didn't get all fields (while amarok sees them)
[09:33] <jim_p> Buntu765: yes
[09:33] <kinnaz> scientus no power means nothing in memory doesnt it ?
[09:33] <troubled> DJ_: been a while since I tried it, but I think the syntax is like: smbclient -M <ip/hostname> "Message"
[09:34] <Buntu765> :jim_p so what is the next step?
[09:34] <Neaai> nmh_j2graw: I checked that page of the external monitor acrtivation. It seems the "xrandr" supports Intel and Radeon cards/drivers but I have Nvidia and it won't do anything for me.
[09:34] <jim_p> Buntu765: searching for the module
[09:34] <scientus> kinnaz http://citp.princeton.edu/memory/
[09:34] <Buntu765> :jim_p thank you
[09:34] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: i changed the mask.. it didn't do anything. i believe WinSCP applies it's own permissions when it uploads it (through ssh.. since it connects with my user) i don't think it's the same as making a new file regularly on that computer
[09:34] <Buntu765> :jim_p do i need too search for it?
[09:34] <kinnaz> scientus other option would be to make some filesystem to memory and then filling it with dev null or smt
[09:34] <Jonny> no?
[09:34] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: I would suggest checking - ssh to the server, make a file, set various combinations of permissions and see how it owrks.
[09:35] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: that is possible - have you checked the docs for winscp on setting created file permissions?
[09:35] <troubled> DJ_: try: smbclient -M \\\\<wins machinename>
[09:35] <troubled> DJ_: it should try connect and give you a prompt to enter a message if it works I think
[09:36] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: well, i was updated it on my own at that point.. i won't need WinSCP at all if i can get svn to automatically update my /www folder to the latest revision
[09:36] <kinnaz> scientus Abstract Contrary to popular assumption, DRAMs used in most modern computers retain their contents for seconds to minutes after power is lost
[09:36] <scientus> troubled, linux is a better smbserver :)
[09:36] <marekt> hi i have a problem in one of the tutorials for making lirc working, there is a line "sudo apt-get source kernel-source-2.6.10" my kernek version in 2.6.27 when i try to do this command, it tells me uablo to find source.... can you help?
[09:36] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: so that's not something i want to dive into atm
[09:36] <troubled> scientus: no arguments there :)
[09:36] <kinnaz> scientus so in theory if you have more minutes time, you still get empty memory
[09:36] <nmh_j2graw> Neaai: google(xrandr nvidia)
[09:36] <jim_p> Buntu765: if you blacklist the modul;e you wont be able to use the camera though
[09:36] <zloy> how can i bring Ubutnu works at Active Directory?
[09:36] <troubled> i dont use popup msgs though here
[09:36] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: understandable, and versioning can be quite handy
[09:36] <troubled> DJ_: also, by default, windows firewalls those popups, so you would need to unblock them
[09:36] <scientus> kinnaz, they showed that certain memory could last an hour
[09:36] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: my main concern is getting my user (server) svn user, and www-data user all playing nicely with read/write permissions on the /www folder..
[09:37] <Neaai> nmh_j2graw: yes, am doing just that
[09:37] <Buntu765> :jim_p it worked fine with 8.04 but with 8.10 it just stays on?
[09:37] <DJ_> troubled:ok
[09:37] <mistform> I can't get my computer to recognize my cdrom
[09:37] <kinnaz> scientus thou still im a bit confuzed, why would you need to empty memory ?
[09:37] <scientus> kinnaz, just saying it would be easy and super (microsecond) quick to clear it on shutdown
[09:37] <jim_p> Buntu765: did you upgrade to 8.10?
[09:37] <kajo> I'm on a Dell Latitude C640, and it apparently has some ATI 32MB video card, but supposedly you need some kind of special drivers or something to use it... anyone know about this that can point me in the righ direction?
[09:37] <Buntu765> jim_p yes
[09:37] <troubled> DJ_: the syntax should be okay though, i got an could not connect error which is correct for my setup
[09:37] <DJ_> can i update from 8.04.1 to 8.10 rc
[09:37] <zloy> thank you for help me
[09:37] <nmh_j2graw> Neaai: I would offer more info, but that is about all I konw (haven't used it yet)
[09:37] <zloy> idiots
[09:37] <kinnaz> scientus security reasons ? or smt else ?
[09:38] <jim_p> Buntu765: then i cant help you. i am not that much in 8.10 yet, sorry
[09:38] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: ooc, how are you planning on getting updates out of your repository for the webserver?
[09:38] <Tesssa> question ubuntu 8.10 supposed to d=be released today 30 0ct i go to download but it's still downloading 8.4 why.I live in the uj
[09:38] <matiass> hey people
[09:38] <kajo> Anyone here know anything about ATI video cards, or drivers for advanced video cards in 8.04?
[09:38] <kinnaz> scientus because in reality, if someone has pyhsical access to your computer, you are fcked anyways
[09:39] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: out of my repository? svn gives the option to run scripts post-commit.. i was given a link in #svn for that to set it up
[09:39] <user3> ce_unesa
[09:39] <matiass> can you help me with this issue , i have a picture in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962936
[09:39] <scientus> yeah kinnaz maybe it should be used on encrypted partition computers only
[09:39] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: then i believe i just need to set apache to ignore .svn folders completely, since it would put one in there (i think)
[09:39] <scientus> but then it would be useful
[09:40] <zloy> No matter how dark the night, somehow the Sun rises once again
[09:40] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: ahh, interesting.  for ignoring the .svn - maybe ask in #apache, but I would expect it to be similar to the syntax for not serving .htaccess files
[09:40] <scientus> could be added to halt/reboot
[09:40] <kinnaz> scientus yeah maybe then
[09:40] <kinnaz> scientus thou i personaly wouldnot use crypted partition, because when smt happens, i have far more bigger chance of getting my data out there without cryption
[09:41] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: yeah. i've already got that, was with the link for the svn setup stuff.  anyhow, if i'm making a post-commit script, that script needs access to the folder, as well as svn having access to the script >.>  i'm struggling getting 2 users to work ok on my /www folder without constantly updating file permissions, lol
[09:41] <matiass> can you help me with this issue , i have a picture in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962936     ?
[09:41] <nachi_> btw: what is the most recommended ftp server to install if i want to define a folders to users ? i see some of the clients are limits the ftp access dirs to the /home/user/ directory.. i need to define my user/pass and folder premission
[09:41] <scientus> yeah i use truecrypt
[09:41] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: now it's like.. 4 users, or something, that need proper access
[09:41] <mordof> nmh_j2graw: not sure if that's even possible
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> nachi_: they are all like that, most use the home dir as the start folder by default
[09:41] <nmh_j2graw> mordof: add them all to www-data
[09:42] <scientus> and truecrypt likes to create bsods on shutdown cause it clears memory and windows sucks with it
[09:42] <MeanMachine> do wine open winscp ?
[09:42] <jim_p> Buntu765: have a look here
[09:42] <blight> where is it ...
[09:42] <blight> :)
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: i believe there is a unix equiv
[09:42] <kinnaz> MeanMachine why you need winscp with wine ?
[09:42] <user3> ce_kuliah
[09:42] <jim_p> ah never mind
[09:43] <kinnaz> scientus truecrypt is hardware based ?
[09:43] <MeanMachine> coz i need to connect to my shell box and ssh ( i cant makeit work)( or i am to stupid or i dont get it well) :)
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47350
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: you can ssh from terminal
[09:44] <scientus> no, it just wants to unload itsself and its memory lastly but that brings down the windows kernel when the drive unmounts on its full drive encrption product
[09:44] <kajo> How do I determine what video card I have in the terminal?
[09:44] <colinut> hi all. any news for when we can download the standard release?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> kajo: lspci
[09:44] <MeanMachine> i know  trouble told me but i cant change the port Def 22)
[09:44] <kinnaz> kajo lspci
[09:44] <preston> Filezilla is in the repositories now too. I've had great luck with that.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: when you connect, specify port
[09:45] <Tankado> Hello how can i enable the text when the system goes up? (right now its a black screen and i remember there was a way to enable it to i see the text it preforming)
[09:45] <kajo> ATI Radeon Mobility 7500- will that card allow me to use advanced copmiz effects?
[09:45] <colinut> anyone knows when we can get the new release?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Tankado: edit menu.lst to not say quiet
[09:45] <Tankado> okie thanks where is it located?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | kajo
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kajo
[09:46] <kinnaz> Tange2 /boot/
[09:46] <kinnaz> aww
[09:46] <kinnaz> tankaldo
[09:46] <kajo> thank you, AccessExcess
[09:46] <Tankado> ahh ok
[09:46] <Tankado> thanks
[09:46] <kajo> ActionParsnip, sorry
[09:46] <kinnaz> Tankado or possibly /boot/grub/
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Tankado: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> kajo: np man
[09:46] <MeanMachine> i need something like commander type of program ..if any ..
[09:46] <kinnaz> MeanMachine mc
[09:46] <herzzreh> hm
[09:46] <thomashartman1> what does this */4 in the crontab entry mean? 0 */4 * * *       /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot hourly
[09:47] <elvis123> troubled: I have managed to finish the installation suck-ses-fully, i formated all my partitions again using exactly the same setup as before and everything worked fine
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: try scp from terminal, does that work?
[09:47] <thomashartman1> from http://rsnapshot.org/howto/1.2/rsnapshot-HOWTO.en.html#automation
[09:47] <kinnaz> MeanMachine thou for sftp dunno
[09:47] <herzzreh> i haven't used irc in... ages
[09:47] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip scp is same thing like winscp ?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: i believe its a clone
[09:47] <kinnaz> ah nice :)
[09:48] <user3> ce_unesa
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: guessing by the name
[09:48] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip yeah seems kind of logical indeed :P
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: they always take a decent app and stick win on the start
[09:49] <troubled> elvis123: *shrug*, gratz :)
[09:49] <mistform> guys i really need some help
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !ask | mistform
[09:49] <fincan> hi all, any news about 8.10 final?
[09:49] <kinnaz> !isitout
[09:49] <troubled> MeanMachine: ssh working?
[09:49] <mistform> I just plugged my IDE cdrom back into my motherboard and restarted and now I can't see the cdrom anywhere
[09:50] <MeanMachine> working i guess - but not for me
[09:50] <mistform> i've googled 1,000 different terms and tried viewing 3,000 different pages but nothing helps no matter how many cat or ls i run
[09:50] <kinnaz> mistform even in bios ?
[09:50] <mistform> kinnaz, bios recognizes it
[09:50] <jim_p> mistform: dont tell me you plugged it in while the pc was on!!!
[09:50] <mistform> jim_p, no, I'm not an idiot.
[09:50] <troubled> MeanMachine: ssh -p 12345 -u username 12.34.56.78?
[09:51] <jim_p> mistform: lol ok. because i have heard such stories. does it mount stuff when you put a data cd in?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> mistform: try setting it to a master or slave. you may have it set to channel select which *nix systems dont lik
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> e
[09:51] <rdx> Anyone got an estimate for when the 8.10 ubuntu image will be released?
[09:51] <MeanMachine> let me try :0
[09:51] <kajo> I just found out I don't have an xorg.conf file... is that a problem?
[09:51] <ziroday> rdx: when it gets released
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> mistform: check you /etc/fstab for its /dev name and attempt to mannualy mount it
[09:52] <ziroday> !isitout | rdx
[09:52] <elvis123> troubled: have to do it again on another machine but thanks for all your effort. appreciated!
[09:52] <shesek> !isitout
[09:52] <Jonny> kajo, I would seek councelling
[09:52] <troubled> elvis123: np, least you got it going. gotta love software ;)
[09:52] <shesek> too late
[09:52] <shesek> can't I use the bot? :O
[09:52] <elvis123> always most of the time
[09:52] <troubled> :)
[09:53] <Tankado> !isitout | shesek
[09:53] <kajo> Jonny, that was humour, yes? I didn't know my display could be run without xorg.conf... anyways, I'm trying to install the ati drivers, and it instructs me to edit xorg.conf... what should I do?
[09:53] <mistform> ActionParsnip, I had this drive in the computer (its what i used to install ubuntu) for a long time. Yesterday I unplugged it to narrow out some hardware problems. today it won't work when I reattatched the drive
[09:53] <Jonny> kajo, yeah :) If your X server is running then I guess it's not a problem. Is there an xorg.conf.d directory or soemthing similar?
[09:53] <larsemil> so i dont have a visile nm-applet(it is running). when running it in terminal it says no defined connections, why could that be?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mistform: check fstab and check its seated and the PATA cable + molex are attatched properly
[09:53] <mistform> jim_p, no, it does not automount any media
[09:54] <DavidTalbot> @mistform you see your cdrom in bios?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> mistform: make sure you arent using cable select too, make it a master o slave
[09:54] <mistform> ActionParsnip, the drive spins up just perfect
[09:54] <Jonny> kajo, in any case, it shouldn't harm to create a new xorg.conf
[09:54] <mistform> ActionParsnip, #/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:54] <jim_p> mistform: forget automount, you can mount it manually. the thing is, is the cdrom read when its inside
[09:54] <MeanMachine> trobled thx :) ssh -p 12345 username@host.ip   this worked
[09:54] <jim_p> ?
[09:54] <kajo> Jonny, there is no folder at /etx/x11- i.e., x11 is a nonexistent folder.
[09:54] <larsemil> X11
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> mistform: then put a cd in and manually mount it, see if its ok
[09:54] <MeanMachine> the other told me no --u something
[09:54] <Jonny> Capital X :)
[09:54] <kajo> haha, thanks...
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> kajo: linux is CasE sENSiTiVe
[09:55] <mistform> jim_p, how do I know? I put in a blank CD, it spins up, nothing happens. I put in my Ubuntu LiveCD and it spins up, nothing happens. nothing listed in COmputer, and nothing on the desktop
[09:55] <dman777> how many extended partitions can one drive have?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> mistform: put a cd in, once its span up, mount it
[09:55] <jim_p> mistform: is it the only drive there?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> dman777: 1
[09:55] <dman777> ActionParsnip, thanx
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> dman777: you can have a tonne of logical partitions in the extended partition
[09:56] <mistform> ActionParsnip, where would it be so I can mount it in /dev/cdrom
[09:56] <dman777> ActionParsnip, don't they start at partition #5?
[09:56] <kajo> Jonny, ActionParsnip, I only see "configured video device"... I vaguely remember hearing people complain about this when hardy was released... how can I edit the settings for the video card? Is it ok to edit that out of xorg and put manual parameters there?
[09:56] <jim_p> mistform: and please paste your fstab somewhere
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> mistform: you can mount it anywhere you want, i believe there is already a /dev/cdrom0 folder
[09:56] <dman777> anynone here LPI certified?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> mistform: mount it there
[09:57] <bingungaja> can i change my mouse point ? how ?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> dman777: i was working on it once buy gave it up due to neglect
[09:57] <jim_p> mistform: sudo mount -t auto /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[09:57] <danwie> help
[09:57] <Jonny> kajo, yeah if you comment it out that's fine - you can always uncomment if X breaks :)
[09:57] <danwie> sorry
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !ask | danwie
[09:57] <jim_p> ActionParsnip: /dev/cdrom is not a file or a folder, its a device like everything else inside /dev
[09:57] <dman777> ActionParsnip, i found some test questions link given from the LPI site. they are so hard it is unreal.
[09:57] <Wobert> how long have ubuntu.com been down ?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: i know...whats your point?
[09:58] <mistform> ActionParsnip, jim_p, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64526/
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> dman777: just think it very logically
[09:58] <kajo> will "[comment][/comment]" work here?
[09:58] <mistform> jim_p, mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[09:58] <kajo> @ Jonny
[09:58] <troubled> MeanMachine: gratz
[09:58] <jim_p> ActionParsnip: because you said "i believe there is already a /dev/cdrom0 folder:
[09:58] <dman777> ActionParsnip, haha...ya. i guess you can say that. most of the test questions aren't normal ones. they're trick questions.
[09:59] <jim_p> mistform: sudo mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:59] <troubled> MeanMachine: i think it expected -p to be before the user@ip before
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> mistform: you have commented out /dev/hdc
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> mistform: which means it wont automount
[09:59] <kajo> how does one comment out?
[09:59] <mistform> ActionParsnip, so how do I reload fstab?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> mistform: change #/dev/hdc to /dev/hdc
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> kajo: you add a # to the start of the line
[09:59] <jim_p> ActionParsnip: nice find :P
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: shazam!
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> mistform: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:00] <kajo> ActionParsnip, thanks again.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> mistform: remove that comment
[10:00] <mistform> ActionParsnip, jim_p, before I ever try to mount the bastard, where would it be located???
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> mistform: /dev/hdc
[10:00] <mistform> I cannot find a /dev/hdc
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> mistform: meaning its the secondary master in bios
[10:01] <jim_p> mistform: /dev/hdc is not a folder or a file!
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: technically it is a file
[10:01] <bingungaja> how can i check any computer who using my wifi ?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: everything in linux is a file
[10:01] <Jonny> Strictly speaking...it's a file :)
[10:02] <jim_p> ActionParsnip: yea, but is should not be "treated" as a file
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> bingungaja: jump into your access point and check the dhcp clients list
[10:02] <alexmart> hello guys, how should I mount a partition with fstab to make me the owner of the partition and not root? Is this even possible ?
[10:02] <saftarn> how do I set a dir so i can write to it from eevrywhere?
[10:02] <troubled> alexmart: yes its possible to alter owner/group on fstab
[10:02] <bingungaja> ActionParsnip : can u please show me the command line please ?
[10:02] <saftarn> liek now everytime i use vim i get only read
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: define "everywhere"
[10:02] <Bert_2> Hi, can someone explain me what the CPU-flag HT stands for on my AMD processor, I tought it was Hyper-Treathing but that seems to be an intel-only thing, so what does it mean on an AMD sys then ?
[10:02] <MeanMachine> gFTP is better tho :) thx :)
[10:03] <mistform> jim_p, mist@mist-desktop:/$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[10:03] <mistform> mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> bingungaja: there isnt one, you web browse to your routers ip and read your routers manual
[10:03] <saftarn> so i can write to it without sudoing and do it in whatever dir i am in
[10:03] <troubled> alexmart: man mount should give all the options
[10:03] <ubuntuPAGeekz>   jim_p:thanks for the help. Based on the new X file I was able to rewrite it and make it work
[10:03] <jim_p> mistform: sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[10:03] <larsemil> so i dont have a visile nm-applet(it is running). when running it in terminal it says no defined connections, why could that be?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> mistform: uncomment the /dev/hdc line in your fstab and reboot
[10:03] <alexmart> troubled: how do I go about doing that ? I've been reading about umask and I don't think that is it.
[10:03] <jim_p> ubuntuPAGeekz: you are welcome
[10:03] <bingungaja> ActionParsnip : Oh ic, so i should login to my router, and check for the dhcp list
[10:03] <bingungaja> thx
[10:03] <mistform> ActionParsnip, I DID!!! How do I reload FSTAB???
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> mistform: its done at bootup
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mistform: you can sudo umount -a if you want
[10:04] <mistform> ActionParsnip, so I have to restart after I uncommented the line???
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mistform: its a good test
[10:04] <troubled> alexmart: first, you need option "user" or "users" to allow users to mount it if noauto
[10:04] <Khaled-mardam> hi!
[10:04] <Khaled-mardam> I'm Khaled Mardam Bey.
[10:04]  * ActionParsnip would like to point out - This is why automount sucks
[10:05] <troubled> alexmart: what fs type? ext3?
[10:05] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[10:05] <fincan> seeking an oracle!!!
[10:05] <fincan> :D
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> !ask | fincan
[10:06] <troubled> alexmart: do you just want users to be able to mount the fs on their own?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> troubled: users cant mount
[10:06] <troubled> alexmart: im assuming you are using noauto
[10:06] <troubled> ActionParsnip: yes they can
[10:06] <troubled> if you set it to in fstab
[10:06] <troubled> ActionParsnip: first day in linux? ;)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> troubled: oic, my bad
[10:06] <jim_p> troubled: what do you want them to mount
[10:06] <jim_p> ?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> troubled: try a few years
[10:07] <alexmart> troubled I want the drive to be mounted at startup but I want every user to have read/write permissions, just me
[10:07] <troubled> jim_p: not me, alexmart
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> troubled: always learning too
[10:07] <troubled> alexmart: just give users mount abaility (or use auto mount), then when its mounted, chmod/chown it
[10:07] <alexmart> sorry, I don't want every user to have read/write perms, just me
[10:07] <outbackwifi> alexmart: install pmount and  eidt /etc/pmount.allow to allow users to mount etc
[10:07] <troubled> alexmart: in linux (well, depending on fs type), owner and perms stick between mounts
[10:07] <outbackwifi> alexmart: ^^edit^^
[10:07] <kajo> so I just edited my xorg.conf according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  --- all I needed to do to change the driver was edit this file, right?
[10:08] <troubled> alexmart: so if you chmod it 777 and umount it, it will be 777 again when you mount it again
[10:08] <agoodNando> Hello. How do I stop ubuntu from loading the snd-via8xx ? (I want to load the snd-hda-intel instead)
[10:08] <Gary> .15
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> troubled: try sudo mount -t <type> /dev/<name> /mount/point -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[10:08] <piasdom> how do i change the drive letter of my cdrom0 ?
[10:08] <outbackwifi> agoodNando: blacklist that module
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> alexmart: you can use the above some
[10:09] <troubled> alexmart: if you want users to be able to mount, just add the "users" option and anyone can mount/umount it on demand
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: it doesnt have one
[10:09] <saftarn> HELLO WTF THES EPERMISSIONS DRIVE ME FUCKING CRAZY
[10:09] <saftarn> I CANT SAVE A FUCKING FILE
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !caps | saftarn
[10:09] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I just downgraded some packages from custom builds to standard hardy builds to make sure upgrading to intrepid will go smoothly, but now the versions of these packages are locked.. how do I easily remove these version locks?
[10:09] <troubled> Gary: /alias w /window
[10:09] <troubled> :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: this may help. calm your boots: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[10:09] <user3_> ce_unesa
[10:09] <troubled> /w 15
[10:09] <outbackwifi> agoodNando: in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | Na-Fiann
[10:09] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: OK. What is the file to do that ?
[10:09] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: OK. Thanks.
[10:10] <abc_abc_abc> connect irc.german-freakz.net
[10:10] <alexmart> so if I have the auto option and then I change the owner with chown and permissions with chmod will they still have effect the next time I restart ?
[10:10] <piasdom> ActionParsnip:i'm having trouble see the files on my cdrom0 and thought it was that
[10:10] <saftarn> /usr/local/bin/ how the f*** can I make that dir writeable?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: no, there are no drive letters in linux, thats windows garbage, in linux you can mount to any empty folder in your file system
[10:10] <saftarn> chmod +wrx sur/local/bin didnt work
[10:10] <piasdom> ActionParsnip:ever since running virtualbox,i can't access my cdrom
[10:11] <troubled> alexmart: yup. its written to the fs tables on the partition itself and restored on mount again
[10:11] <Na-Fiann> actionparsnip: thats not what I'm doing, I'm reinstalling the standard hardy packages because I used custom repos
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: you dont, you sudo cp to it
[10:11] <alexmart> oh great, thanks
[10:11] <outbackwifi> saftarn: use sudo to copy something into that directory
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: if that dir was user writable itd be a joke
[10:11] <troubled> alexmart: diff filesystems have diff mount options and limits though. usually umask would be for like vfat  (fat32)
[10:11] <outbackwifi> saftarn: +1
[10:11] <troubled> alexmart: for ext3, just chmod it like anything
[10:11] <saftarn> 1
[10:11] <troubled> alexmart: "users" is only if its not auto mount and you want users to be able to mount themselves
[10:11] <saftarn> l
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: do you understand?
[10:12]  * outbackwifi rolls saftarns eyes
[10:12] <sdads> hello all! hey, how can i know directory's current chmod? ... thanks!
[10:12] <ziggy> anyone know how to get a ony walkman working with amarok?
[10:12] <outbackwifi> sdads: ls -ld
[10:12] <manuel83> hi i got problem whit tv/radio card encore enltv-fm pro is not dectect radio T_T
[10:12] <outbackwifi> sdads: ls -ld directory name
[10:12] <saftarn> I just want a folder where I can save my files and then I want to be able to execute them from anywhere. Is there sucha  place?
[10:12] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: I just put snd-hda-intel in /etc/modules and it didn't get loaded. It may be because the snd-via82xx was being loaded ?
[10:12] <piasdom> ActionParsnip:when i try mount /media/cdrom0 i get "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist"
[10:13] <Dusk_> can we upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 without reinstalling??
[10:13] <sdads> ok thanks
[10:13] <Na-Fiann> actionparsnip: so now I have the standard hardy packages, but they're version locked and I want to remove this version lock
[10:13] <larsemil> saftarn: you can always save in your homedirectory
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: you could create a folder in ~/ and add it to your path
[10:13] <alexmart> troubled, I just want to be the only one who can read and write the partition
[10:13] <larsemil> saftarn: and to be able to run them add them to path and put +x on them
[10:13] <troubled> alexmart: then set the perms accordingly now while its mounted
[10:13] <outbackwifi> agoodNando: try loading it manually with modprobe -v to see if it throws an error
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> saftarn: or you can create symbolic links to the apps / scripts in /usr/bin
[10:13] <sdads> i meant 775 or 770
[10:13] <Dusk_> ?? upgrade
[10:13] <troubled> alexmart: its an ext2/3 fs right?
[10:13] <sdads> i get drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4.0K 2008-10-30 11:40 /
[10:13] <abc_abc_abc> connect irc.german-freakz.net
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Na-Fiann: uninstall the hardy packages and reinstall
[10:13] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: OK.
[10:13] <Dusk_> can we upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 without reinstalling??
[10:13] <jim_p> Dusk_: yes, change all your sources.list from hardy to ibex and             sudo apt-get update && sud apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:13] <abc_abc_abc> quit
[10:13] <abc_abc_abc> exit
[10:14] <Dusk_> jim_p: thanx
[10:14] <larsemil> jim_p: isnt the recommended way to do it with updatemanager?
[10:14] <jim_p> you are welcome
[10:14] <outbackwifi> abc_abc_abc: type /leave
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Na-Fiann: its heavily disuaded to do what you are doing as ubottu says, it breaks things
[10:14] <jim_p> larsemil: i trust apt more than any gui app for the job
[10:14] <alexmart> troubled, yes it's ext3
[10:15] <outbackwifi> jim_p: synaptic is a graphical frontend for apt
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: me too
[10:15] <troubled> alexmart: yup, that be fine. which user would you like to have exclusive access?
[10:15] <jim_p> outbackwifi: can synaptic dist-upgrade ?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: synaptic is very confusing and sloooow
[10:15] <alexmart> troubled, me
[10:15] <troubled> alexmart: for privacy, just say "bob" if you like :)
[10:15] <alexmart> troubled alex
[10:15] <jim_p> outbackwifi: actually , it can !
[10:15] <outbackwifi> jim_p: it should be able to
[10:16] <Sam2342342> Hi guys :)
[10:16] <troubled> alexmart: okay, so try: chown alex.alex /path/to/mount ; chmod 770 /path/to/mount
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> hi Sam2342342
[10:16] <Sam2342342> Hi AP :)
[10:16] <Guest75084> I just tried running my customized xorg.conf that was set up to use the ati Radeon 7500 drivers according to the ubuntu website's guide... when I tried to restart x (ctr+alt+bkspc), I got some flashes, and then the console, telling me there was a fatal error in that there were no screens found... any ideas?
[10:16] <mistform> ActionParsnip, no /dev/hdc
[10:16] <alexmart> troubled, so then umask can be whatever in the fstab ?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Sam2342342: you can ta complete names here, just like in Termina
[10:16] <Morten_> hi, im trying to use the 'lpr' command to print out a .PDF-document on my printer with option=duplex and book (2 pages pr. side). But I cant get it to work
[10:16] <brenlae> hi!
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> mistform: hmm, put a cd in the tray and fire up gparted
[10:17] <troubled> alexmart: you dont use umask for ext2/3, only for limited filesyustems like vfat that lack user/group/acls
[10:17] <brenlae> i'm curious, does the Ralkink rt2870 module(s) come packaged with the latest version of ubuntu?
[10:17] <alexmart> torubled, ok I get it
[10:17] <troubled> alexmart: ext2/3 store the perms in the file system directly, and return on remount
[10:17] <troubled> well, amongst other fs's
[10:17] <mistform> ActionParsnip, I have ext3, swap, and extended
[10:17] <outbackwifi> brenlae: no; if thats the eeepc you're looking to support; use the kernel at array.org
[10:17] <troubled> but I only deal with ext2/3
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> mistform: hmm
[10:18] <troubled> alexmart: man mount, will have what options apply globally and what are specific to each fs type
[10:18] <Guest75084> Formerly kajo: I just tried running my customized xorg.conf that was set up to use the ati Radeon 7500 drivers according to the ubuntu website's guide... when I tried to restart x (ctr+alt+bkspc), I got some flashes, and then the console, telling me there was a fatal error in that there were no screens found... any ideas?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> mistform: try changing the jumper on the cd drive from master to slave
[10:18] <alexmart> troubled: so this line should do ? /dev/sda6 /mnt/work	ext3   0   0  ?
[10:18] <mistform> ActionParsnip, I went into BIOS and it recognizes it aswell
[10:18] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: it must have also listed that error; what is it
[10:18]  * brenlae sighs
[10:18] <brenlae> back to windows :S
[10:18] <troubled> alexmart: now, if you umount that partition and ls -l, you should see its owned root.root again until you remount it, then it should return to alex.alex
[10:19] <Guest75084> "(EE) no screens found", or something, is what was in the log.
[10:19] <troubled> alexmart: do you want security features? performance features? both?
[10:19] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: can you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest75084: switch to Driver "vesa" to get a desktop, then read logs and such
[10:19] <alexmart> troubled, both :D
[10:19] <troubled> alexmart: something like this should be safe: /dev/???    /path/to/mount  ext3    rw,noatime  0    0
[10:19] <mistform> ActionParsnip, how could it have changed? I never changed the jumper or IDE cable since I unplugged it YESTERDAY.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> mistform: no idea, maybe some other change has made it different
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> mistform: all i can do is suggest
[10:20] <troubled> alexmart: but you can also use "nodev,noexec" to disable running binaries from it, and disallow use of /dev files as well
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> mistform: its worth a try though
[10:20] <jordan_> do you speak french ???
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> !fr | jordan_
[10:21] <Sjaki> Hey sorry to bug, but does anyone have a solution to connect to my Ubuntu server from my Windows Vista Laptop? Google has mixed results
[10:21] <troubled> alexmart: I suggest noatime for performance since access times arent updated in case you do lots of file operations on it
[10:21] <outbackwifi> !samba | Sjaki
[10:21] <infinite> hello i cant seem to enable desktop effects,although i selected desktop cube and rotate cube in advanced desktop effects settings, it doesn't work. settting  appearance/visual effects to normal or extra doesn't work either
[10:21] <Guest75084> outbackwifi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64536/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: connect in what way...email, telnet, fileshare?
[10:21] <troubled> alexmart: noexec is moot since they can run stuff directly via glibc possibly still, but nodev is good to have
[10:21] <Sjaki> like, VNC connect
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | Sjaki
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: if you have a server OS you can use rdp which has encrpyption
[10:22] <Sjaki> Alright, and i'm guessing that works between both windows and linux environments
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: linux can rdp too
[10:22] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: did you modify that file by yourself?
[10:22] <Sjaki> Thanks for your help guys
[10:22] <Sjaki> I will look at those links
[10:22] <Guest75084> outbackwifi, yes
[10:23] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: did you add those lines with the # in front of them?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: next time you ask a question, please make it clearer that "connect"
[10:23] <Guest75084> outbackwifi, yes- those were previously in.
[10:23] <jePPe][MySa][23> when will i be able to download Ubuntu 8.10?
[10:23] <Guest75084> This is my functioning xorg, I had to edit it in console to start an x session when it failed.
[10:23] <sdads> now
[10:23] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: any reason you would comment out everything that is of use?
[10:23] <Guest75084> outbackwifi, when those were uncommented (i.e., being used), it crashed.
[10:24] <Guest75084> and gave the previously stated errors.
[10:24] <Guest75084> notice, I have only commented out things that are not necessary for functioning, but for advanced ati driver usage.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest75084: id drop to vesa driver and then reinstall the driver...did you use envyng to get the driver installed initially?
[10:25] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: run a sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[10:25] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: Now snd-hda-intel got loaded, but I noticed an advice (in tty1 while booting) saying that moprobe was ignoring the line 47 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist about the snd-via-82xx, wich is still getting loaded.
[10:25] <Guest75084> ActionParsnip, I didn't install any driver, the ati open one is already installed according to the guide I read.
[10:25] <onur_> hi!
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest75084: then id definately do the reconfigure command stated by outbackwifi
[10:25] <troubled> alexmart: I should note that the chown/chmod commands should have been run while the partition is mounted!
[10:26] <Guest75084> xorg-xserver is not installed, outbackwifi
[10:26] <outbackwifi> agoodNando: is there a syntax error in that file? can you recheck that
[10:26] <onur_> where is the Ibex ( 8.10 ) ?
[10:26] <troubled> alexmart: you _want_ it to be root:root only when its not mounted to save you from saving stuff there by accident
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> onur_: its at www.ubuntu.com
[10:26] <onur_> i can't seE?
[10:26] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: Perhaps the - instead of _ snd_ or snd- ...
[10:26] <onur_> stable version of 8.10 ActionParsnip
[10:26] <Guest75084> outbackwifi, no response?
[10:27] <Guest75084> What was that line for?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> onur_: yep its released
[10:27] <onur_> can you give me release link ?
[10:27] <onur_> i couldn't find that ..
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[10:27] <Guest75084> what is xorg-xserver, why do I need it, and why should I be running spkg-reconfigure on it? ActionParsnip? Anyone?
[10:27] <onur_> no no ActionParsnip file IMAGE
[10:28] <Guest75084> ActionParsnip, I have to go soon, anything I desperately need to be aware of?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest75084: that will give you a failsafe xorg.conf so you can get an x server
[10:28] <troubled> Guest75084: xorg-xserver is the package you want to configure to change X settings
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest75084: id then follow whatever stuff you followed to get it going
[10:28] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: my bad it is xorg-xserver
[10:28] <nikosoft> пишет типа в шары долбишься :) просто обновись
[10:28] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: I was used in Gentoo, wich I used to compile the modules as built-in. I really am not used to things like this...
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !ru | nikosoft
[10:29] <shahab> hi
[10:29] <Guest75084> thanks everyone... g2g, frustratingly.
[10:29] <agoodNando> outbackwifi: Thanks for your time. I think now it'll be OK.
[10:29] <troubled> shahab: hi
[10:29] <outbackwifi> agoodNando: that is also possible but you would need to recompile the kernel with the module built-in; this way its more flexible
[10:30] <Guest75084> hey... tried to install xorg-xserver... and aptitude said it cound't find a package whose name or description matched... I also can't isntall opera... am I missing repositories or what?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> !opera | Guest75084
[10:30] <troubled> Guest75084: xserver-xorg try
[10:30] <outbackwifi> Guest75084: do a sudo apt-get update first
[10:31] <troubled> always get that one backwards :)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> troubled: just use tab complte, no worries then ;)
[10:31] <outbackwifi> troubled: me too; its actually xorg-xserver (just ran it to reconfirm)
[10:31] <graingert> is ubuntu 8.10 actually released or is this just an RC?
[10:31] <Tesssa> i live in UK can anyone tell me when version 8.10 can be downloaded
[10:32] <troubled> outbackwifi: debian shows xserver-xorg, uguess its backwards in ubuntu :)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Tesssa: now
[10:32] <outbackwifi> oops xserver-xorg
[10:32] <outbackwifi> lol
[10:32] <troubled> lol
[10:32] <Tesssa> ok thank you
[10:32] <troubled> dont worry, I do that every time I config/search it hehe
[10:32] <graingert> Tesssa: now I think
[10:32] <Tesssa> appreciated :)
[10:32]  * ActionParsnip is loyal to his heron
[10:32] <troubled> ActionParsnip: tab complete for what? package names?
[10:32] <troubled> or irc nicks?
[10:33] <MeanMachine> any1 knows why sometimes the system just freez?
[10:33] <troubled> MeanMachine: define freeze
[10:33] <troubled> heavy hd access freeze?
[10:33] <outbackwifi> ActionParsnip: afaik its not out yet
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: run a memory test from grub and an fsck of all partitions from live cd to start with
[10:33] <troubled> or mouse doesnt move, num locks wont work, freeze?
[10:33] <Kate_Mins> Hello, how i can find my external ip address from the terminal ?
[10:33] <MeanMachine> yes ..i cant do nothing ...only restart
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> outbackwifi: just change sources from hardy to intrepid and update afaik
[10:34] <MeanMachine> mouse key everything
[10:34] <outbackwifi> ActionParsnip: that would only update to rc and not 8.10
[10:34] <troubled> MeanMachine: ya, check ram first
[10:34] <MeanMachine> 2 G
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: theres a memtest in grub when you first boot
[10:34] <outbackwifi> Kate_Mins: what do you mean by external address?
[10:34] <troubled> MeanMachine: if its a machine known to be fine though, its probably just some buggy driver or something
[10:35] <MeanMachine> i made memo test all good
[10:35] <agitdd99> intrepid channel please
[10:35] <outbackwifi> Kate_Mins: w3m http://whatismyip.com
[10:35] <grizzancs> Kate_Mins: wget http://www.whatismyip.org/    or check it out with links
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: have you been doing it while talking to us? 2Gb takes a bit to scan
[10:35] <dooglus> what's the recommended way to get sun java to run applets in firefox on amd64?
[10:35] <troubled> MeanMachine: does it eventually unfreeze?
[10:35] <MeanMachine> troubled keep talking ..my machin is working good with windoze
[10:36] <MeanMachine> nope..only restart
[10:36] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | agitdd99
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: iced-tea works great for me
[10:36] <troubled> MeanMachine: next time it happens, try the syskey magic commands
[10:36] <troubled> MeanMachine: if reboot works, the kernel didnt lockup
[10:36] <z987k> no release party with lots of spamming, damn!
[10:37] <agitdd99> thannks ubottu
[10:37] <Tesssa> live in the UK just tried to download 8.10 still shows download 8.4 when you try to download.so could be after 12 noon
[10:37] <troubled> !syskey
[10:37] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I don't think iced-tea is anything to do with sun java is it?
[10:37] <troubled> :/
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !info iced-tea
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !info icedtea
[10:37] <kotrcka> Tessa: as always, it will be around 1400 UTC
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !find iced
[10:37] <outbackwifi> !icetea
[10:37] <Tesssa> oh 2-0 pm
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: it'll give you a java plugin
[10:38] <dooglus> !info icedtea-java7-jre
[10:38] <troubled> oops
[10:38] <troubled> !sysrq
[10:38] <Tesssa> i am impatient i suppose
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !info icedtea-plugin
[10:38] <troubled> MeanMachine: try what ubottu said ^^^
[10:38] <MeanMachine> i will :)
[10:38] <troubled> MeanMachine: long story short, sysrq R should reboot
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Tesssa: if hardy works for youid sit with it
[10:39] <troubled> MeanMachine: but you should sync (S) and umount fs (U) iirc first
[10:39] <outbackwifi> Tesssa: or on it
[10:39] <troubled> MeanMachine: although, with ext3, you probably dont have to worry too much
[10:40] <troubled> MeanMachine: but if numlocks etc dont respond, it doesnt sound too promising
[10:40] <Tesssa> thinking about trying xubuntu any info about it
[10:40] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: it gives me a java plugin, but one that doesn't work for me.  I find the sun java plugin to be more compatible with the applets I use
[10:40] <digin4> can you encrypt your whole partition in ubuntu 8.10?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you could install it through nspluginwrapper maybe
[10:40] <outbackwifi> !isitout | digin4
[10:40] <MeanMachine> any ideea what is the problem? hardware problem    i guess
[10:41] <digin4> nice
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> MeanMachine: id check ram is healthy and linux partitions are healthy too
[10:41] <troubled> MeanMachine: usually, but more likely caused by a driver instead of faulty hardware
[10:41] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: the icedtea plugin says "Start: applet not initialized" in the firefox status area
[10:41] <troubled> MeanMachine: usually really new stuff has problems to be worked out :)
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you need a bit more than just that package
[10:42] <troubled> MeanMachine: never have to deal with it much myself though since I only use linux on old boxen
[10:42] <troubled> by the time my machines get linux, the drivers are rock solid
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> troubled: just shop smart and you can have a new system with rock solid drivers
[10:42] <troubled> MeanMachine: while you wait... :) anything in particular causes it?
[10:43] <troubled> ActionParsnip: shope smart, shop S-Mart!
[10:43] <sysh4ck> any .iso around ?
[10:43] <MeanMachine> well ..sometimes firefox (surfing the net) or some Linux included games
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> troubled: groovy
[10:43] <troubled> MeanMachine: also, do you try anything repeatable to make it lock up? any particular amount of time? etc
[10:43] <Rob> I get this "Warning: file:///cdrom/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-rubtine_0.99.7.1-5ubunut1_all.deb was corupt" when trying to install XUbuntu, do I need to connect to the internet during setup?
[10:43]  * ActionParsnip grabs his boomstick
[10:44] <troubled> heh
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Robdid you md5 check your cd?
[10:44] <rexwin> sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[10:44] <rexwin> [sudo] password for bob:
[10:44] <rexwin> Sorry, user bob is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get install imagemagick' as root on machine1.
[10:44] <rexwin> how do i overcome the above limitation?
[10:44] <Rob> ActionParsnip: Now do I do that :S
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> md5 | Rob
[10:44] <troubled> rexwin: run! hehe, as run try visudo
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | rob
[10:44] <Rob> thanks :)
[10:45] <anders_> !sysrq
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Rob: please tell me you checked your install iso?
[10:45] <MeanMachine> do u think is radeon vcard Ati driver?
[10:45] <troubled> rexwin: username   ALL=(ALL) ALL, should allow everything
[10:45] <troubled> MeanMachine: possibly. although my radeon worked fine before (9800 pro)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> rexwin: your user 'bob' is not a member of the admin group
[10:46] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know how to run 1024x768 applications on a 1024x600 display?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | rexwin
[10:46] <Rob> ﻿ActionParsnip: I didn't know I needed to, I just burn the ISO to a CD and booted on my old computer
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Rob: tcp is very good at file consistancy but you REALLY should check its interity to ensure you have downloaded a 100% accurate disk
[10:47] <troubled> chazco: depends on the app unfortunately. some stuff doesnt resize properly. try maximize it?
[10:47] <chazco> troubled - Tried that :) Some apps (like Inkscape) react very oddly
[10:47] <troubled> chazco: there are some voodoo commands you can pass for X apps in the console though to force certain geometry
[10:48] <chazco> troubled - I've tired xrandr (i think it was) and some Xorg virtual commands, but nothing wanted to go :(
[10:48] <chazco> A panning 1024x768 would be fine, but even that doesnt want to work :(
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> chazco: run it windowed if its fullscreen, you can alt drag stuff so you can resize
[10:48] <troubled> chazco: try google for: x windows geometry
[10:48] <troubled> thats a bit of a hack though
[10:49] <troubled> a good app should recognize the display res and adjust
[10:49] <chazco> ActionParsnip - The alt+drag method works with some apps, but ones like Inkscape still dont run correctly
[10:49] <troubled> chazco: that or you could setup X for a virtual desktop size larger than the max
[10:49] <chazco> troubled - Agreed... but it doesnt seem like thats the case
[10:49] <troubled> chazco: but that gets anonying fast (virtual sizes)
[10:50] <chazco> troubled - I tried Virtual 1024 768 in xorg, but it wouldnt work :(
[10:50] <troubled> chazco: id just suggest spending $20 on a cheap 4mb pci card and get yourself a higher res if your monitor can take it
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> troubled: is there a setting to set the initial size?
[10:50] <chazco> troubled - Tricky to do that with a laptop :)
[10:51] <troubled> ActionParsnip: I forget, but I think it goes by the order in the x config. I dont use X really anymore, so id have to boot a machine and look
[10:51] <troubled> im a console debian guy :)
[10:51] <Rob> ﻿ActionParsnip: So can that error be fixed?
[10:51] <Rob> :(
[10:51] <outbackwifi> troubled: i think its in the mode section
[10:51] <troubled> chazco: ahh, well, then virtual size is prbably your only option
[10:51] <troubled> outbackwifi: rings a bell, thanks
[10:51] <Sjaki> VNC all working now
[10:52] <amir_> amirdorian@hotmail.com
[10:52] <Sjaki> Thankyou ActionParsnip
[10:52] <Sjaki> I'm off now
[10:52] <MrChutney> Aiee! My manpages have no C documentation! :(
[10:52] <MrChutney> How do I fix it?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: its not encrypted, just so you know
[10:52] <zaggynl> is my hdd dying?  http://pastebin.com/m3deaa5d9
[10:52] <Sjaki> I have forced encryption in vino
[10:52] <Sjaki> I believe
[10:52] <outbackwifi> MrChutney: install them
[10:52] <Sjaki> But it's only for local network, not over the internet
[10:52] <Sjaki> So it's forced local
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: id still use rdp
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: but if you like it, use it
[10:53] <Sjaki> Is that better to connect from a windows to a ubuntu?
[10:53] <Sjaki> From your subjective standpoint?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> from windows to ubuntu id use ssh
[10:53] <Sjaki> I need to be able to see the ubuntu GUI, not just command line
[10:53] <Sjaki> Would that still work?
[10:54] <Rob> what method should I use? I want the whole system with xubuntu...just the "Guided - use intire disk"??
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: then yeah vnc, from ubuntu to windows id use rdp
[10:54] <troubled> MrChutney: man 2 pages?
[10:54] <Sjaki> Ubuntu is the server so it's only ever going one way... Windows to Ubuntu
[10:54] <Sjaki> I only have 1 monitor you see :)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: id strongly recommend not running an xserver on a linux server
[10:55] <Sjaki> Or rather, no monitor and a laptop
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: for security and stability
[10:55] <outbackwifi> rob; yes
[10:55] <troubled> MrChutney: try: apt-get install manpages-dev
[10:55] <MrChutney> troubled: I am not sure specifically which section they are located in, but having browsed the synaptic package manager, I've discovered that they are indeed available as deb packages.
[10:55] <MrChutney> Thanks!
[10:55] <Sjaki> It is not a working server, just for fun while I explore ubuntu
[10:55] <troubled> that should get you section 2 (kernel api) stuff
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: vnc will create a virtual desktop for you
[10:56] <troubled> MrChutney: "man man", should show you the standard sections
[10:56] <troubled> 2 is what manpages-dev will provide
[10:56] <kal_> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:56]  * outbackwifi at the risk of being offtopic wonders what man woman would show
[10:56] <troubled> MrChutney: in the future: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search /usr/share/man/man2
[10:56] <Sjaki> Yes I have TightVNC on windows connecting to my Ubuntu. It seems to work nicely. Should I want my ubuntu to be a working server down the track I will remove the GUI entirely and use SSH. Sound good?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Sjaki: sounds fine
[10:56] <RUMMY> hello all
[10:57] <Sjaki> Fantastic, thanks again for the help ActionParsnip
[10:57] <Sjaki> Bye :)
[10:57] <MeanMachine> ok troubled tx for your help :) all i need to do now is freez :))
[10:57] <carl_> hi guys, i have a server that is running dapper, and i want to install a newer version of php, what is the best "ubuntu" way to do this?
[10:58] <troubled> MeanMachine: lol, well good luck with that :)
[10:58] <MeanMachine> hehe
[10:58] <ikonia>  carl_ apart from backports there is no ubuntu way
[10:58] <troubled> MeanMachine: btw, due to my name being a common word, I dont hilight on antyhing that doesnt have my nick first on the line like: trouble:
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> carl_: search synaptic is one way. there is no "best" anything
[10:58] <troubled> so I may not see ya reply otherwise
[10:58] <carl_> sorry, i am running feisty it seems
[10:59] <carl_> ActionParsnip: thing is that the version in the rep is way old
[10:59] <carl_> is there a backport rep or something like that where i can find a newer version?
[10:59] <MeanMachine> ok got it :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> carl_: then find a repo with a newer version or install a .deb file manually
[11:00] <carl_> well, the one in hardy is a lot newer, question is how i go about installing it without moving the whole dist to hardy?
[11:00] <carl_> guess i can try to install just the .deb
[11:00] <ikonia> carl_ you can't really
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> could compile maybe?
[11:01] <carl_> ok, and there are no backports or anything for fiesty?
[11:01] <ikonia> ActionParsnip not really the ubuntu way, plus it will be missing deps
[11:02] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: lots of deps will need an upgrade too, but your right
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its essentially linux so its all good in my books :D
[11:02] <lamego> carl_, the ubuntu way is, do not use dapper at this time
[11:03] <carl_> lamego: its feisty, and the server is soon to be replaced, but thats probably 2-3 months out
[11:03] <ikonia> lamego fesity is EOL
[11:03] <outbackwifi> i tend to agree with ActionParsnip ; downloading the source and compiling is the safest way to do this; ive done it with postgres
[11:03] <patrick-1> can anyone tell me why ubuntu doesnt have an mdutils package in its repos?
[11:03] <lamego> carl_, do not use feisty either :P
[11:03] <ikonia> patrick-1: mdutils ?
[11:03] <outbackwifi> prolly means mdmutils
[11:03] <patrick-1> to create lvm volumes
[11:04] <patrick-1> LOL
[11:04] <patrick-1> crap!
[11:04] <patrick-1> mdm :D
[11:04] <patrick-1> got me there
[11:04] <FloodBot1> patrick-1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <outbackwifi> patrick-1: tis on the alternate  cd methinks
[11:04] <ikonia> patrick-1 mdmutils ?
[11:04] <patrick-1> thxgg
[11:05] <troubled> patrick-1: raid or lvm?
[11:05] <patrick-1> troubled: both
[11:05] <Jonny> Anyone know of an app that can read WMA tags? I found that extract and mplayer didn't get all fields (while amarok sees them)
[11:05] <troubled> patrick-1: in debian, i see lvm2, should be similar for ubuntu
[11:05] <patrick-1> right
[11:06] <troubled> patrick-1: mdadm for software raid perhaps?
[11:06] <jim_p> since i got no proper answer today, i question again
[11:06] <jim_p> i am using checkinstall to make a .deb package of fatrat (a download manager) from source. how can i state the dependencies and the conflicts the package has?
[11:06] <jim_p> !checkinstall
[11:07] <ganes> how the repository is taking the package from binary-i386 even if the binary-ia64 is exists
[11:07] <patrick-1> troubled: but what about mdmutils
[11:08] <troubled> patrick-1: no idea, I dont use software raid
[11:08] <jim_p> ganes: wrong repo or non existant repo for the 64bit one? what package is it?
[11:08] <troubled> all hardware raid here
[11:08] <troubled> patrick-1: I can probably help you with lvm though once you get to that point ;)
[11:08] <yakuaker> anybody usign pydev ?
[11:08] <patrick-1> sounds neat :)
[11:08] <Slart> troubled: is it worth the money? I've been thinking about it for a while..
[11:09]  * outbackwifi thinks he wouldnt be called troubled if it wasnt
[11:09] <troubled> Slart: hardware raid? not sure, this is old raid
[11:09] <ganes> jim_p, i want the package related to binary-ia64 but the apt-get update checking the folder i386 in repo
[11:09] <troubled> Slart: http://images.google.ca/images?q=dell%20poweredge%204200&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
[11:09] <troubled> Slart: I got a pair of those
[11:09] <Jane_> Hi. Anyone get a USB microphone to work on their ubuntu
[11:09] <super_admi> where?
[11:09] <Jane_> ?
[11:10] <mnj> I'm having a problem with Hardy, it stopped yesterday booting (timestamps suggest that a new initrd got written some hours before) and now booting yields in the bestcase a busybox "(initramfs)" prompt :(
[11:10] <troubled> Slart: only ami megaraid scsi2 cards (pci) with hot swap sca drives. nothing fancy, but they are redundant and I dont have to worry about setting up raid in linux
[11:10] <ganes> jim_p, from where it is getting the info. of i386.. i am not mentioning this the architecture to look up .. how it is doing
[11:10] <Slart> troubled: ahh.. I have one of these..http://images.google.se/images?q=mini%20itx&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi , I think we're playing at the opposite ends of the playground =)
[11:11] <outbackwifi> Slart: you should be using voyage linux with one of those
[11:11] <ganes> jim_p, how the apt-get update is looking binary-i386 folder even it has binary-power-pc
[11:11] <kal_> why am i banned from #ubuntu-release-party ?
[11:11] <troubled> Slart: wow, thats awesome. Id love to have a cluster of those :)
[11:11] <kal_> * Cannot join #ubuntu-release-party (You are banned).
[11:11] <kal_> is that a mistake?
[11:11] <mnj> I can boot the laptop with an OpenSUSE disc, and access the crypted LVM volume but it does not boot with the Hardy install CD :(
[11:11] <jim_p> ganes: ia64 is not similar to amd64 !!! in fact ia64 is not used by everyday pcs. it is for intel itanium processors
[11:12] <outbackwifi> kal_: nope they dont want you in
[11:12] <troubled> Slart: all nfs mounts/boots and stuff?
[11:12] <Slart> outbackwifi: I'm running xubuntu with xfce shut down.. it's barely breaking a sweat
[11:12] <outbackwifi> Slart: oh ok
[11:12] <Slart> troubled: not boots.. but home folders, some shared folders for music/documents, firewall, gateway, backups etc
[11:13] <outbackwifi> Slart: i need to get one of those for a kiosk im planning to build
[11:13] <srinivas> Hi
[11:13] <srinivas> Could anybody suggest me how can I go for MIRC channel for websphere ?
[11:13] <mnj> Anyone got an idea what could make cryptsetup luksOpen hang?
[11:13] <ubuntu__> im trying to install ubuntu and ubiquity wont get to step 4
[11:13] <jbroome_> srinivas: /join #websphere
[11:13] <ubuntu__> after i hit next on step 3 it just freezes
[11:14] <Slart> outbackwifi: I'm very impressed with it so far.. no fans, no problems.. it just runs
[11:14] <troubled> Slart: cool. I dont really use my dells much for anything other than test work. they are too old and slow to depend on really. 2 minute post's on them, not to mention scsi scan takes a goo 30sec on boot and then again in linux
[11:14] <outbackwifi> Slart: thats great;
[11:14] <jbroome_> troubled: then don't reboot them. :)
[11:14] <troubled> jbroome_: I try not too :)
[11:14] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me?
[11:14] <outbackwifi> srinivas: didnt google tell you?
[11:15] <troubled> jbroome_: they get the room hot though since its 6 hd's each
[11:15] <outbackwifi> Slart: how much does one of em cost?
[11:15] <troubled> and dual 700w psu's
[11:15] <mnj> HELP, how does one remake the initrd ramdisk? Mine seem to miss pvscan and other LVM tools to access my rootfs
[11:15] <outbackwifi> mnj: mkinitrd
[11:15] <ubuntu__> im trying to install ubuntu and ubiquity wont get to step 4
[11:15] <Jane_> Hi. Anyone get a USB microphone to work on their ubuntu?
[11:15] <chai_sangeen> hello everyone...
[11:16] <GibbaTheHutt> Jane_, yep have one here working
[11:16] <sirMajid> hi
[11:16] <ubuntu__> after i hit next on step 3 it just freezes
[11:16] <sirMajid> why doesnn't compiz work with laptops with ati graphic card
[11:16] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: whats your h/w config?
[11:16] <ubuntu__> whats that?
[11:16] <Slart> outbackwifi: I think I had to pay.. about.. $400 or something.. about $250 for the motherboard.. then a case and a hard drive.. I already had some memory sticks
[11:16] <ubuntu__> its been 4 months since i used ubuntu .-.
[11:16] <chai_sangeen> im installing ubuntu on a compact flash card 8gb what file system is recommended ? ext2 or ReiserFS
[11:17] <outbackwifi> chai_sangeen: ext3
[11:17] <GibbaTheHutt> hmm i'd do ext2
[11:17] <jim_p> chai_sangeen: will it be plugged in a laptop?
[11:17] <mnj> outbackwifi, well lvm is in the initrd disc, but it still does not boot :(
[11:17] <sirMajid> has anybody had the problem with ati graphic card and compiz?
[11:17] <ShitalLin> where can i get VBOX addons for ubuntu-8.04
[11:17] <Jane_> GibbaTheHutt - What are your settings in your Sound and Volume Control?
[11:17] <sirMajid> can they work together?
[11:17] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: whats h/w config?
[11:17] <outbackwifi> !ati
[11:17] <jim_p> sirMajid: loads of people. atis fglrx is a load of crap for compiz
[11:17] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: hardware configuration
[11:17] <chai_sangeen> jim_p, nope mini-itx with on-board compact flash
[11:18] <sirMajid> jim_p, what do u mean? they can't work together?
[11:18] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: where do i find that? i may just be being really stupid right now but i have stage 3 strep throat and just woke up so ill try to not be stupid .-.
[11:18] <jim_p> sirMajid: you can try radeon or radeonhd if you want compiz only and no games.
[11:18] <GibbaTheHutt> sound capture is set to ALSA actually, but this is on intrepid, I'm also running hardy and it was on something else, I think ak5370 my mic
[11:19] <sonic_> salut tout le monde
[11:19] <jim_p> sirMajid: they cant work properly together
[11:19] <elvis123> troubled: i did exactly the same thing on a different machine and got a the same error. Anyway got both machines working was just about to give up and go for windows no wait dos... hehe
[11:19] <jim_p> sonic_: salut
[11:19] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: if you are the owner of that machine, you would probably know what is the CPU/RAM/harddisk/graphics board on that machine is
[11:19] <Aciid> when when when!
[11:19] <chai_sangeen> outbackwifi, from what i've read ext3 had many write cycles and it's not recommended.. i could be wrong though..
[11:19] <JesperHansen> Are Ubuntu using Firefox or their own debranded version, for which I don't remember the name of? Or is that in the future?
[11:19] <ubuntu__> oooh that
[11:19] <Aciid> any official time schelude for the GM release?
[11:19] <JesperHansen> s/Are/Is/
[11:19] <sirMajid> jim_p, is all of the visual effects of ubuntu related to compiz?
[11:19] <troubled> elvis123: try debian ;)
[11:20] <sirMajid> jim_p, I mean there are no visual effects without compiz?
[11:20] <outbackwifi> chai_sangeen: i wouldnt worry about that cos these days write cycles are the least of the problems for CF cards IMHO
[11:20] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: cpu is amd live athlon dual core X2 1GB ram 250gb hdd NVidia
[11:20] <jim_p> sirMajid: yes. compiz = visual effects
[11:20] <elvis123> can i during an installation renice mke2fs because formatting 3 TB takes quite some time?
[11:20] <sirMajid> jim_p, ok...so what do u mean by just compiz and no games?
[11:20] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: are you using the correct installer image?
[11:21] <Aciid> when is the official release coming??
[11:21] <mech> cdimage.ubuntu.com don't open.... that a reason?
[11:21] <Oprtz> a clean installation of ubuntu 8.10 is good or to upgrade to 8.10 is a good option ? thankx,. i am on 8.04 now
[11:21] <ubuntu__> yeah ive used this cd before
[11:21] <Aciid> today but when when when!
[11:21] <Xan3> need help with hal. anyone can help me? i need to make a rule in hal
[11:21] <outbackwifi> elvis123: since its an installation what else do you expect to do in the cycles you grab
[11:21] <chai_sangeen> outbackwifi, okay i'll go ahead and go with your recommendation... if didn't work out, well we can always reinstall =)
[11:21] <outbackwifi> chai_sangeen: sure
[11:21] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: ive used this cd a lot of times
[11:21] <AukeF> Hey! I'm running into an issue with python and urrlib2, getting a 'no route to host' error (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/python/+bug/94130).  Is anyone familiar with this?
[11:21] <jim_p> sirMajid: radeonhd will give you compiz, but its too weak for games. fglrx is like 5 times more powerfull than radeonhd, but crappy behavior with compiz
[11:22] <JesperHansen> Is Ubuntu using Firefox or their own debranded version yet (for which I don't remember the name of)? Or is that in the future?
[11:22] <ubuntu__> JesperHansen: firefox
[11:22] <Oprtz> ﻿a clean installation of ubuntu 8.10 is good or to upgrade to 8.10 is a good option ? thankx,. i am on 8.04 now
[11:22] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: on this pc?
[11:22] <jim_p> Oprtz: are you on ati by any chance??
[11:23] <ubuntu__> yup on the same pm
[11:23] <ubuntu__> pc*
[11:23] <GibbaTheHutt> personally I would do a clean one, but depends what you have on there
[11:23] <Oprtz> jim_p:  no
[11:23] <sirMajid> jim_p, I don't run games on my ubuntu...I guess radeonhd will be ok...how should I install that
[11:23] <elvis123> nevermind it finished. thanks though outbackwifi
[11:23] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: any particular reason you are reinstalling?
[11:23] <jim_p> Oprtz: then upgrade to 8.10 and if this wont work, do the clean install
[11:23] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: hate vista to death
[11:23] <Oprtz> jim_p:  okie, thanks
[11:23] <jim_p> sirMajid: what is your vga?
[11:23] <outbackwifi> jim_p that will be around 1.4 G of data :)
[11:24] <kadakas> heelp! I used an old xmodmaps file on my laptop and now all my non-abc keys are messed up. My Up arrow is my printscreen and my printscreen is my delete
[11:24] <agitdd99> how to disable screen resolution changing in hardy
[11:24] <sirMajid> jim_p, ati radeon x600
[11:24] <jim_p> outbackwifi: i am on ati so upgrade is a distant dream for now
[11:24] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: can you tell me the name of the iso that you are using please?
[11:24] <Oprtz> jim_p: the reason i am asking, because ubuntu DONT show me shared windwos folders, but i can see ubuntu shared folders from windowsXP machine
[11:24] <mnj> What's the way to "rewrite" the whole bootprocess? I need to install grub, it's menu,  mkinitramdisk, ... Anything else?
[11:24] <sirMajid> ﻿jim_p, I've already unistalled fglrx and changed my xorg.conf to use open source driver
[11:24] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: god if i know i burned this cd at least a year and a half ago
[11:24] <necrogami|work> How can i force GCC to reinstall from the repo?
[11:25] <sirMajid> ﻿jim_p, and still I can't enable visual effects
[11:25] <mnj> Does mkinitrd need anything extra to recognize the fact that I've got a crypted LVM setup?
[11:25] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: if i were you i would do a media check right away and also if its that old, you are not installing hardy
[11:25] <babo> what's the dynamic dyns thingy called again ? indyna ?
[11:25] <jim_p> sirMajid: http://7g.pri.ee/mine.conf this is my xorg.conf... in case you need fglrx ideas :P
[11:25] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: i think this is fiesty
[11:25] <edelholz> i cannot wait for intrepid!
[11:25] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: or even the one before that
[11:25] <Oric> ^^
[11:25] <jim_p> sirMajid: i dont use compiz and even with the composite options it still freezes!
[11:25] <sirMajid> jim_p, no...I already removed fglrx
[11:26] <Oric> how longer will 8.10 take
[11:26] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: i would suggest that you download hardy and install that
[11:26] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: i dont have any more blank CD's
[11:26] <agitdd99> anyone please, knows how to disable resolution changing in ubuntu hardy
[11:26] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: i was just gonna install this and use the upgrade
[11:26] <outbackwifi> Oric: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:26] <chai_sangeen> outbackwifi, should i disable swap... i have 1gb ram ..
[11:26] <ganes> jim_p, when im trying to install a package from repository it is fetching the binary-i386 but i want it from binary-ia64 how to do it...
[11:27] <outbackwifi> chai_sangeen: i wouldnt use swap on a CF card at all :)
[11:27] <Oric> outbackwifi: ^_^
[11:27] <jeeves_Moss> is there a VM product for Ubuntu that I can control EVERYTHING right down to the max screen rez, etc?
[11:27] <saftarn> what is the full path to home?
[11:27] <jim_p> ganes: i am asking again... do you know what ia64 is?
[11:27] <chai_sangeen> outbackwifi, done =) thanx
[11:27] <stevej678> i typed in $set and got http://pastebin.com/m34a56b6, what is it?
[11:27] <outbackwifi> ganes: are you installing on an itanium machine?
[11:28] <sirMajid> jim_p, when I turn on visual effects, it says "visual effects can't be enabled"
[11:28] <ganes> outbackwifi, no on i386 architecture
[11:28] <jim_p> sirMajid: give me a sec. packages.ubuntu.com is slow
[11:28] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, thanks again for your help the other night.  I speed tested it, and balanced out the load coming in from the net, etc and split the data between 2 NICs and it loks to be running better
[11:28] <agitdd99> saftam: /home/[usernamee]/
[11:28] <elvis123> is debootstrap anyway related to bootstrap-bill from pirates of the Caribbean...? The reason i ask is because you get things like squid-proxy, apache, etc...
[11:28] <outbackwifi> ganes: then why are you trying to download ia64?
[11:28] <ganes> jim_p, ya
[11:28] <Reynastus> Hey all I've just upgraded my pc to 64 bit stuff and have a Creative Labs 5.1VX PCI card and was wondering how to configure it correctly ... atm all i can get is static or no sound at all thanks in advance
[11:28] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: so what should i do to fix the installer?
[11:28] <jim_p> ganes: do you have an ia64 processor???? an itanium one?
[11:28] <sirMajid> jim_p, ok...
[11:29] <ganes> i need binary-lpia
[11:29] <ganes> jim_p, no i didnt have
[11:29] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: i can only suggest  that you do a media check first
[11:29] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: how do i do that?
[11:29] <jim_p> ganes: as far as i know, ubuntu does not have ia64 architecture repos
[11:29]  * outbackwifi bangs his head against the nearest wall
[11:29] <jim_p> debian does
[11:29] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: its one of the options when you boot from the livecd
[11:29] <ganes> jim_p,based on arch it will fetch the binary ..
[11:30] <z987k> so why does ubuntu only come as binaries in 386 rather than 686, is it an issue with every computer post 1980 being able to run it or what?
[11:30] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: but is it a coincedence that both cd's are doing it?
[11:30] <outbackwifi> ganes: yes so its correctly pulling the 386; why do you want the ia64?
[11:30] <jim_p> ganes: well if you dont have a ia64 cpu, why use an ia64 repo? its like installing an amd64 kernel to my cellphone!
[11:30] <mikebeecham> I installed 8.04 the other night an see that 8.10 is about out...will it be safe to upgrade, or shoudl I leave alone for a while?
[11:30] <saftarn> z987: it comes as a flyign sausage
[11:30] <ganes> outbackwifi, how the apt-get fetching correctly the i386 without entering into binary-powerpc
[11:30] <luxuss> will there be oo.org 3.0 in 8.10 or in the official update repos?
[11:30] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: i would leave the new release alone for the time being
[11:31] <mikebeecham> hey outbackwifi..ok thanks mate
[11:31] <babo> guys, is the skype package broken for anyone else ?
[11:31] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  this VM issue of fine grain control?
[11:31]  * outbackwifi aargh
[11:31] <jim_p> luxuss: possibly yes
[11:31] <ganes> outbackwifi, i need binary-lpia
[11:31] <luxuss> w00t
[11:31] <z987k> saftarn, no really, I mean wouldn't things be a bit faster if it were optimized for 686?
[11:31] <dr_willis> luxuss,  i hear it will be in Backports repo, or PPA repositories..
[11:31] <outbackwifi> ganes: please do not ask such questions; it  only shows you are setting out to do something about which you know  nothing
[11:31] <luxuss> gd
[11:32] <luxuss> will update it in the backport
[11:32] <outbackwifi> jim_p: hes all yours
[11:32] <dimitris> There was an issue in Ubuntu 8.04 with not recognising certain HDD unless the option was set to AHCI mode in BIOS I think. Do u know if this has been resolved in 8.10?
[11:32] <jim_p> outbackwifi: why?
[11:32] <outbackwifi> dimitris: best way is to install and find out
[11:32] <outbackwifi> jim_p: ive given up
[11:33] <jim_p> dimitris: are you greek? nice to see a greek guy in here!
[11:33] <ganes> outbackwifi, i need this package  binary-lpia .,
[11:33] <outbackwifi> ganes: sorry i dont know anything about that package
[11:33] <dimitris> jim_p, Yes I'm from Cyprus
[11:33] <jim_p> oh ok
[11:34] <stevej678> got a question re "set", i typed it in and got a huge dump
[11:34] <erik_> gIEF 8.10!
[11:35] <jrib> stevej678: what's the question? :)
[11:35] <jim_p> ganes: unless you have an intel itanium cpu, which is for large pcs made for like nasa, you dont need the ia64!
[11:35] <quibbler_> ganes: http://apt.rubyforge.org/dists/ubuntu/non-free/binary-lpia/
[11:35] <blunder> ok now
[11:35]  * neunon coughs, "Intel Itanic"
[11:35] <Reynastus> Anyone know how to configure sound cards correctly, I'm using a Creative Sound Blaster 5.1vx in the ia64 bit distro
[11:35] <outbackwifi> Itanic O_o
[11:35] <blunder> ia64?
[11:35] <zamba> how do i rip a copy protected dvd? brasero only identifies it as being 5 MB big
[11:35] <babyrobbe> *counts a countdown*
[11:36] <jim_p> Reynastus: what distro may i ask? debian or gentoo go up to these architectures
[11:36] <jrib> zamba: can you play it?
[11:36] <jim_p> zamba: shrinkta or k9copy
[11:36] <X3> meh whres 8.10 final
[11:36] <Reynastus> Jim_p: its Ubuntu Hardy Heron main 64 bit distro
[11:36] <blunder> over there ---->
[11:36] <zamba> jim_p: i can play it with vlc, yeah
[11:36] <zamba> jrib, that is
[11:37] <jrib> zamba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs  I use dvdbackup personally (command-line though)
[11:37] <ganes> quibbler_,  you are correct .. if i give this path the "apt-get install " searching the binary-i386 not the binary-lpia
[11:37] <stevej678> jrib: man set says its a sql command, the book says.. Manipulate shell variables and functions, when i typed it on its own it dumps a huge listing, http://pastebin.com/m34a56b6
[11:37] <babo> i can't install skype from the repos and i can't install it from the skype.com .deb either ...
[11:37] <babo> http://pastebin.com/m678fba84
[11:37] <babo> i just get broken pipe
[11:37] <babo> what's up ?
[11:37] <usser> zamba, so rip it with vlc then
[11:37] <jim_p> Reynastus: then its not ia64!!! even if you are on intel !!! for ia64 you will need intel itanium cpus, which are not given to common mortals
[11:38] <X3> Has anyone have anything to say why 8.10 has not been released yet its the 30th roday
[11:38] <Reynastus> Jim_p: aww fail
[11:38] <reqqit> !isitoutyet
[11:38] <jim_p> Reynastus: why fail?
[11:38] <joaopinto> !intrepid > X3
[11:38] <blunder> hhhhhhhheheh
[11:38] <Reynastus> Jim_p: cus i cant get this damn card working
[11:38] <outbackwifi> X3: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:39]  * usser hahaha
[11:39] <jim_p> Reynastus: what card?
[11:39] <Inphoar> WTH?! I was banned on the release party for posting a link to Virgin Media's Ubuntu thing...
[11:39] <reqqit> So, I have a great chrooted scponly account that I have given to a fellow developer.
[11:39] <X3> your so funny like a toothache
[11:39] <Reynastus> ﻿jim_p: its a Creative Labs Sound Blaster 5.1vx
[11:39] <blunder> Reynastus, are you sure that its ia64?
[11:39] <reqqit> However, copying some media files, there seems to be a cap, max connections and a high TTL
[11:39] <reqqit> I cannot find anything about setting max connections and TTL for sfto
[11:40] <Reynastus> blunder: no im not ... reasonably new to linux here sorry for noobishness
[11:40] <jim_p> Reynastus: is it inside lspci? keep in mind that creative has a bad past with alsa and linux
[11:40] <lukketto> what is the release party channel?
[11:40] <X3> the 30th in wich part of the world then
[11:40] <outbackwifi> X3: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:40] <jrib> X3, lukketto: see the /topic please
[11:40] <dr_willis> 'it will be out when its ready'
[11:40] <lukketto> tnx
[11:40] <X3> I did
[11:40] <Reynastus> jim_p: lspci?
[11:40] <stevej678> jrib: my ques is it both?
[11:40] <dcomxx> anyone know the limits for tv_usec ?
[11:40] <jim_p> Reynastus: lspci at a terminal
[11:41] <jrib> X3: then move the release questions to the #ubuntu-release-party ...
[11:41] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: i ran the test and it said checking integrity and then shutdown when it was done and didnt tell me anything
[11:41] <Reynastus> Jim_P: 05:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[11:41] <tux> will netbook remix be released today?
[11:41] <ce_ubuntu> join #ubuntu.pl
[11:41] <Reynastus> jim_p: so yeah
[11:42] <jim_p> Reynastus: hold right there
[11:42] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: hmm.. do we assume it failed then?
[11:42] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: so when it reboots the computer after checking integrity that means somethings wrong?
[11:42] <jcookeman> FloodBot1: can you send me an email when the release is out with a torrent file?
[11:43] <HellMind> How was the ubuntu virtuality channel or something like that?
[11:43] <jrib> HellMind: huh?
[11:43] <jim_p> Reynastus: i dont see your card in here  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs
[11:43] <duke523> lot of people in this channel to state the obvious
[11:44]  * reqqit is installing 8.10 on an acer ONE
[11:44] <reqqit> anyway - max connectiosn and TTL ?
[11:44] <HellMind> #ubuntu virt
[11:44] <HellMind> something like that :(
[11:44] <ubuntu__> outbackwifi: so what should i do to make the install work
[11:44] <jrib> HellMind: what are you looking for?
[11:44] <jim_p> Reynastus: unless its Soundblaster LS
[11:44] <HellMind> ubuntu xen support
[11:44] <Reynastus> jim_p:one sec
[11:45] <turnpike420> is intrepid out yet?
[11:45] <turnpike420> ROFL!
[11:45] <outbackwifi> X3: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:45] <stevej678> can some one tell me what they get in a shell when they just type set?
[11:45] <samir> qui parle français
[11:45] <guestguestnew> when is 8.10 going to be released?
[11:45] <DJones> !fr | samir
[11:45] <rski> today maybe guestguestnew .
[11:45] <outbackwifi> stevej678: they get a list of all environment variables with their values
[11:45] <danbh_intrepid> !isitout | guestguestnew
[11:45] <outbackwifi> guestguestnew: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:46] <stevej678> outbackwifi: is it like this...http://pastebin.com/m34a56b6     ?
[11:46] <samir> merci
[11:46] <jrib> HellMind: #ubuntu-virt apparently
[11:46] <guestguestnew> outbackwifi: isn't that bot just a joke?
[11:46] <Reynastus> jim_p: http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=207&product=17510 is the actual card if that helps \
[11:46] <ubuntu__> my installer quits after the 3rd step how do i fix it?
[11:47] <wigren> Good morning. I've been following the instructions in this blog post (http://blogs.forever.sg/2008/06/15/lcd-brightness-andubuntu-804-hardy/) about how to set my laptop's brightness. I'm having trouble with /etc/init.d/rc.local. There is no line reading exit 0
[11:47] <jim_p> Reynastus: is this the card? lspci tells something else
[11:47] <mwhudson> that answer from ubottu is a bit disingenuous
[11:47] <wigren> this is my rc.local: http://pastebin.com/m523c34f3
[11:47] <ce_ubuntu> ubuntu 8.10 is available !
[11:48] <jim_p> wigren: the line is in /etc/rc.local
[11:48] <stevej678> outbackwifi: is the script below meant to be there?
[11:48] <ce_ubuntu> joke XD
[11:48] <StuartD> Hi all
[11:48] <Reynastus> jim_p: im thinking that its a cheap version of a better card (ie same basic principals only less glittery bits) but that is the actual card that i bought
[11:48] <ubuntu__> my installer quits after the 3rd step how do i fix it??????????????????????
[11:48] <outbackwifi> stevej678: below?
[11:48] <jrib> wigren: that's not the default /etc/rc.local .  Make sure you are looking at the right file
[11:48] <Siiddd> Yo
[11:49] <Siiddd> Where is 8.10?
[11:49] <joaopinto> Siiddd, read the topic, tks
[11:49] <StuartD> I am struggling with unicode at current, i have ubuntu server edition running on a 64bit machine and i have just installed unicode-data but when I use wget to grab say www.wikipedia.com and look at the source the unicode characters are all squares and such, is there another package i need?
[11:49] <jim_p> Reynastus: here    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs    scroll down to Soudblaster LS and look at the 3rd collumn with the modules
[11:49] <StuartD> damn unicode:(
[11:49] <ce_ubuntu> Siiddd : redtube.com there it is!
[11:49] <stevej678> outbackwifi: have a quick look at http://pastebin.com/m34a56b6, below line 71
[11:49] <blunder> Reynastus, can you try this command? "lsmod | grep -i snd"
[11:49] <Siiddd> ce_ubuntu: Redtube is blocked here :\
[11:49] <jrib> wigren: it looks like you pasted /etc/init.d/rc.local which is *not* the right one.  You want /etc/rc.local
[11:49] <patrick-1> there still is no mdmutil package in ubuntu dapper repos... anyone know why?
[11:50] <wigren> jim_p: I feel stupid. Thanks.
[11:50] <ce_ubuntu> Siiddd : blocked?  [*]
[11:50] <Nece228> why shipit dont offers ubuntu 64 bit edition?
[11:50] <Reynastus> blunder: k what are u looking for with that command
[11:50] <ce_ubuntu> cos is too big to ship
[11:50] <Siiddd> ce_ubuntu: Blocked [,/]
[11:50] <ubuntu__> my installer quits after the 3rd step how do i fix it????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:50] <StuartD> With unicode is there just simply a package i am missing that i need to install?
[11:50] <blunder> do you see anything at all
[11:50] <outbackwifi> stevej678: that looks normal yes
[11:51] <stevej678> outbackwifi: ok thanks,  i didnt know this before
[11:51] <blunder> I mean does it print any output
[11:51] <duke523> Acer Aspire One or Lenovo IdeaPad S10?  I like how levnovo has the express slot, but it has half the hdd storage and ram for same price
[11:52] <Reynastus> blunder: yeah gives heaps
[11:52] <Konstanty> I just replaced windows with hardy, and everything is working, except my external harddrive.  When i attempt to mount it, I get this error message: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume."  It is very important that i get this working again, as I used it to backup everything from my windows installation.
[11:52] <StuartD> With unicode is there just simply a package i am missing that i need to install?
[11:52] <graingert> ubuntu__ duno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:52] <blunder> Reynastus, ok cool I have an idea
[11:52] <blunder> first how do you know sound doesnt werk
[11:52] <blunder> what have you tried
[11:52] <Skry^> duke523, i have aa1, at least i like it :)
[11:52] <dr_willis> Konstanty,  you could mount it manually from the command line. with the 'sudo ntfs-3g <proper options>' command.
[11:53] <outbackwifi> !repeat | ubuntu__
[11:53] <ganes> how to find architecture of the machine
[11:53] <Konstanty> dr_willis, what would be the proper options?
[11:53] <jrib> ganes: uname -m
[11:53] <jrib> ganes: that gives you the arch for the OS you installed anyway
[11:53] <Reynastus> blunder: because i tried watching a movie, playing games, music, went through the sound settings and clicked the "test" option on every mixer i could select in there and got static off one of the mixers but nothing more
[11:53] <ganes> jrib, ya
[11:53] <blunder> my machine doesn't output much sound at all even with a working sound audigy in it
[11:54] <StuartD> With unicode is there just simply a package i am missing that i need to install? I tried unicode-data but to no luck
[11:54] <blunder> Reynastus, try this
[11:54] <ganes> jrib, i want the architecture i am using
[11:54] <jrib> ganes: uname -m
[11:54] <ubuntu__> MY INSTALLER FREEZES AFTER STEP 3 HOW DO I FIX ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[11:54] <jrib> !caps | ubuntu__
[11:54] <bazhang> dont use caps ubuntu__
[11:54] <dr_willis> Konstanty,  the locationof the device and a mountpoint  ie:  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[11:54] <ubuntu__> then answer my question
[11:54] <blunder> right click on the volume deal on the tray
[11:54] <dr_willis> gee.. how many of us have step 3 memorized....
[11:55] <Bagualas> is there any ideia when is comming out?
[11:55] <jrib> ubuntu__: your attitude doesn't make me more likely to answer it, no
[11:55] <blunder> click open volume control
[11:55] <ubuntu__> ive been here for an hour asking
[11:55] <outbackwifi> !attitude | ubuntu__
[11:55] <alex314> what's your problem, ubuntu__?
[11:55] <bazhang> md5 the iso ubuntu__
[11:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  you would have better luck if you phrased the question better.
[11:55] <blunder> you there?
[11:55] <Reynastus> blunder: yeah
[11:55] <ganes> jrib, that is not the correct way .. if i change the kernel it will vary
[11:55] <ubuntu__> ...
[11:55] <blunder> click the switches tab
[11:56] <ubuntu__> ok lemme try it this way
[11:56] <StuartD> Does anyone have any knowledge of unicode and ubuntu please?
[11:56] <bazhang> !md5 | ubuntu__
[11:56] <dr_willis> I for one dont even rember what 'step 3' is.
[11:56] <outbackwifi> i advised him to install from a fresh download of hardy; he insists on using a 1.5 yr old feisty cd
[11:56] <ganes> jrib, anyother command
[11:56] <StuartD> making me lose my mind a little lol
[11:56] <blunder> what does that show
[11:56] <ubuntu__> after i click next in step 3 the installer doesnt go on to step 4
[11:56] <elvis123> does anyone know how I can check for open ports from the outside on another machine owned by me?
[11:56] <jrib> ganes: yes, you said "i want the architecture i am using".  If you want what your processor is capable of, google your processor
[11:56] <Pici> ubuntu__: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[11:56] <bazhang> ubuntu__, download a fresh iso of hardy
[11:56] <jim_p> elvis123: nmap
[11:56] <blunder> mine has a digital/analog switch
[11:56] <Reynastus> blunder: in file > Change device?
[11:56] <outbackwifi> elvis123: nmap
[11:57] <bazhang> ubuntu__, feisty is not supported any more
[11:57] <blunder> no
[11:57] <ubuntu__> im trying to install gusty or fiesty whichever was before hardy and i dont have any blank cd's to burn it
[11:57] <quibbler_> ubuntu_:you have been told to check your cd..which was no good download a new iso and burn it on a new cd..if you don't have a new cd ..buy beg or borrow one.
[11:57] <elvis123> i know of nmap but the ptoblem is my isp says they opened a port for the machine and i think they didnt
[11:57] <Reynastus> blunder: ive only got "Playback" and "Options"
[11:57] <Konstanty> dr_willis, where could I find the proper name of the device?
[11:57] <elvis123> so i want to check it from the outside
[11:57] <ubuntu__> can you guys just tell me how to fix my installer?
[11:57] <blunder> ok we are using different versions of gnome but that is ok
[11:58] <bazhang> ubuntu__, repeating your question again and again without listening to people's suggestions will net you zero help.
[11:58] <blunder> click options
[11:58] <outbackwifi> elvis123: try to connect from outside, if it doesnt it isnt open
[11:58] <blunder> what does that say
[11:58] <Pici> ubuntu__: You need to tell us what 'step 2' and 'step 3' are.  In addition, you need to be sure what version you are installing.
[11:58] <dr_willis> Konstanty,  sudo fdisk -l, and look, or look at dmesg output when you plug it in.. or try sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS | awk '{print $1}'
[11:58] <ubuntu__> step 1 select languag
[11:58] <ubuntu__> step 2 timezone
[11:58] <Reynastus> blunder: "Digital Source:"
[11:58] <ubuntu__> step 3 keyboard
[11:58] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: how much do you know about setting up sound in Linux?
[11:58] <Reynastus> has a heap of options in there as well
[11:58] <elvis123> but i dont have a machine on the outside...
[11:59] <bazhang> ubuntu__, sounds like a bad disk
[11:59] <hoggson> any1 know the release time for 8.10?
[11:59] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: only enough to get it working on my laptops
[11:59] <dr_willis> Konstanty,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[11:59] <demontager> it 8.10 oficial release available for downloading?
[11:59] <outbackwifi> hoggson: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[11:59] <TuniX12> no yet
[11:59] <jrib> demontager, hoggson: #ubuntu-release-party
[11:59] <Pici> hoggson, demontager: When its done.
[11:59] <hoggson> lol
[11:59] <bazhang> ubuntu__, download a fresh iso of hardy, buy some new cd's and md5 the iso, do the disk integrity check after burning very slow.
[11:59] <ubuntu__> why did ubottu pm me?
[11:59] <blunder> ok one second whilest I search for a pic of what you are seeing
[11:59] <dr_willis>  ubottu  is a bot.. it auto does things.. when people tell it to
[12:00] <mikebeecham> ok anyone...I'm trying to get my speakers working in Linux.  I have an audigy 4 card, and this is detected in my 'devices'.  I cannot hear any sound though :(
[12:00] <ashmeet> hey hi can any one tell me how to start installed VMware
[12:00] <WaY> hello
[12:00] <ubuntu__> bazhang: i donthave any cd's i can buy i cant leave my house because i have a 24 hour incabation period for my amoxicilin
[12:00] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: easiest way is to run alsamixer from a termiinal, push all sliders to max
[12:00] <WaY> still having problems with kde 4.2?
[12:00] <Siiddd> Anyone here from irvine?
[12:00] <reqqit> ubuntu__, wtf - live wild, go outside
[12:00] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: order it online; youll get it in 24 hrs
[12:00] <bazhang> ubuntu__, then wait until you can get some cd's; that one is clearly not going to work
[12:00] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: I'm in alsa mixer at the moment
[12:01] <ubuntu__> where do i get it online?
[12:01] <runpain2> God Day all
[12:01] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  or use the unetbootin tool to make a bootable thumbdrive
[12:01] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: best buy
[12:01] <r3r3> ubuntu_, install xp and quit whining :)
[12:01] <bazhang> !usb | ubuntu__ use this to make a boot usb stick
[12:01] <outbackwifi> ubuntu__: that would of course depend upon your geography
[12:01] <Pici> r3r3: Thats not helpful at all.
[12:01] <ubuntu__> dr_willis: i dont have any thumbdrives or anything
[12:01] <bazhang> r3r3, please dont
[12:01] <hoggson> lol
[12:01] <hoggson> signoff
[12:02] <runpain2> gota problem again today cant play streaming radio from the internet
[12:02] <Pici> ubuntu__: Have you run the 'check cd for defects' tool?
[12:02] <Siiddd> ubuntu__: Just go to the nearest BestBuy in Ann Arbor (?) and get one
[12:02] <r3r3> i kinow but he expect us to fix his corrupted cd, theres no help for him
[12:02] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,   sounds like you are out of luck then..
[12:02] <runpain2> is legend2440 around
[12:02] <kantor> when would be Ibex released ? tomorrow ?
[12:02] <Siiddd> kantor: No, on the 30th
[12:02] <dr_willis> kantor,  the standard answer is 'when its done' :)
[12:02] <andrea_c7a> the first update for Intrepid is out: base-files
[12:02] <musictoto> !ibex > kantor
[12:02] <outbackwifi> kantor: everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[12:02] <legend2440> runpain2: yes
[12:02] <ubuntu__> how do i install without a cd
[12:02] <runpain2> thought we had it fixed yesterday
[12:03] <Thylacine> :))
[12:03] <dr_willis> !install | ubuntu__
[12:03] <bazhang> ubuntu__, via a usb stick
[12:03] <Konstanty> dr_willis, what would I put for the mount point?
[12:03] <kantor> ok
[12:03] <Siiddd> !ibex > kantor
[12:03] <Siiddd> !ibex > kantor
[12:03] <Siiddd> !ibex > kantor
[12:03] <Siiddd> !ibex > kantor
[12:03] <Siiddd> !ibex > kantor
[12:03] <FloodBot1> Siiddd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <dr_willis> Konstanty,  whatever you want.. make the directory first...
[12:03] <bazhang> Siiddd, dont do that
[12:03] <quentusrex> Does anyone know the best way to give a user ssh access to my system but jail them do a directory? such as their home directory?
[12:03] <Intey> !ibex > Intey
[12:03] <dr_willis> quentusrex,  bash has a 'restricted' mode/feature
[12:03] <ubuntu__> how can i install without burning an iso?
[12:04] <bazhang> ubuntu__, I just told you, get a usb stick
[12:04] <dr_willis> quentusrex,  other then that.. chroot jails are proberly more of a pain then they are worth.
[12:04] <runpain2> forget it now its working
[12:04] <Pici> ubuntu__: You could try Wubi if you run windows as well.
[12:04] <ubuntu__> bazhang: WITHOUT burning an iso
[12:04] <outbackwifi> quentusrex: rsh
[12:04] <jim_p> can that gnome network thing on the tray "connect" my laptop to wireless with static ips and such and wep/wpa encryption? note: NOT nm-applet! i hate network manager piece of junk!
[12:04] <ubuntu__> Pici: i want to get rid of windows completely
[12:04] <runpain2> i wouldnt work at first though
[12:04] <runpain2> it*
[12:04] <bazhang> ubuntu__, then you dont
[12:04] <Konstanty> its working now, thanks dr_willis!
[12:04] <Pici> !who
[12:04] <outbackwifi> jim_p: use wicd then
[12:04] <ubuntu__> i know theres a way to install without burning
[12:04] <quentusrex> dr_willis, what about rsh?
[12:05] <ubuntu__> how do i do that
[12:05] <ubuntu__> or wheres a link
[12:05] <quentusrex> outbackwifi, will rsh act as normal ssh?
[12:05] <runpain2> How you today legend2440
[12:05] <Pici> !install > ubuntu__
[12:05] <kantor> do you guys think that one day Linux would supplant windows (I hope at least)  ?
[12:05] <outbackwifi> quentusrex: it will give you a restricted shell
[12:05] <r3r3> ubuntu_, are you reading peoples answer at all?!?  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:05] <legend2440> runpain2: good
[12:05] <bazhang> kantor, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:05] <tdeckers> join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:05] <jim_p> outbackwifi: i was thinking of having wicd as a fallback when i get to some cafe with a hotspot. i have it installed, i just want a permanent solution for the home with static ips
[12:06] <sluimers_> Hello, how can I jar a directory without the directory itelf in it?
[12:06] <zamba> i have a directory with AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS, in other words a dvd rip.. how can i burn this again?
[12:06] <quentusrex> outbackwifi, that sounds really good. Is there a way to restrict rsh to a directory?
[12:06] <sluimers_> itself
[12:06] <jrib> sluimers_: jar?
[12:06] <zamba> brasero has no option of creating a video dvd
[12:06] <runpain2> wonder why it took so long for it to work maybe i typed url in wrong
[12:06] <ubuntu__> i didnt get a pm
[12:06] <trav> Heyloo Peopele
[12:06] <sluimers_> and without going to that directory
[12:06] <jcookeman> has anyone tested libmapi in Ibex RC?
[12:06] <r3r3> omg
[12:06] <outbackwifi> jim_p: you can use /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant to do that
[12:06] <r3r3> please rampage kill
[12:06] <jrib> jcookeman: #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid
[12:06] <trav> Know where i can get TheMes for hardy/?
[12:07] <jrib> !themes > trav
[12:07] <ubuntu__> OMFG STEP 4 LOADED FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:07] <runpain2> how do i attach those ppl who are in this channel to my xchat
[12:07] <sluimers_> jrib, say I want to jar /program/example1 in the terminal in /program
[12:07] <jim_p> outbackwifi: thats where i get stuck :P i place everything in /etc/network/interfaces and the wep/wpa key and i still cant connect! then i fall back to wicd!
[12:07] <bazhang> ubuntu__, dont use caps
[12:08] <runpain2> is there a voice chat program like in some of the ims
[12:08] <jrib> sluimers_: oh, I wasn't familiar with jar before you asked that question
[12:08] <jim_p> outbackwifi: which connects me of course
[12:08] <Cugel> runpain2: Skype?
[12:08] <sluimers_> and the output would have to be a jar file of everything in example1?
[12:08] <DIFH-iceroot> runpain2: skype, teamspeak
[12:08] <runpain2> cool
[12:08] <jrib> sluimers_: my guess is: jar DIRECTORY/*
[12:08] <DIFH-iceroot> !skype | runpain2
[12:08] <outbackwifi> ekigo
[12:08] <runpain2> are they hard to set up
[12:09] <jrib> sluimers_: add .* if you want hidden files as well
[12:09] <DIFH-iceroot> runpain2: look at the link
[12:09] <sluimers_> jrib, thanks, geez why didn't I think if that
[12:09] <runpain2> ok will look
[12:09] <outbackwifi> jim_p: you need to use wpa-supplicant in conjunction with that
[12:10] <runpain2> Thanks all for the help
[12:10]  * phreekbird impatiently waits on ib
[12:10] <ubuntu__> you guys suck balls. instead of just telling how to get my installer fixed you guys tell me to buy a new cd, burna new cd, go to best buy, well heres a giant FUCK YOU
[12:10] <choon-hee> #unudntu-fr
[12:10] <ubuntu__> FUCK YOU ASSHOLES
[12:10] <jim_p> outbackwifi: i guess its some setting outside /etc/network/interfaces right?
[12:10] <jrib> ubuntu__: lovely
[12:10] <czajkowski> ubuntu__: how rude
[12:10] <dr_willis> Now we know why we ignored you
[12:10] <czajkowski> heh
[12:10] <CanadianLinux> LOL jeez
[12:10] <outbackwifi> jim_p: its a separate program
[12:10] <outbackwifi> !wpasupplicant
[12:11] <jim_p> outbackwifi: thanks then
[12:11] <dr_willis> and i gave him a link about instaloing without byurning.. :P
[12:11] <sluimers_> jrib, wait, that doesn't work
[12:11] <musictoto> dr_willis: he wasn't patient enough to look at it
[12:11] <jrib> sluimers_: try cd'ing into the directory and just using * then?
[12:11] <dr_willis> musictoto,  i think he had enough IQ to read...
[12:11] <sluimers_> I get the directory in the archive
[12:11] <dr_willis> :)
[12:12] <sasan_j> when intrepid ibex will be released?
[12:12] <bazhang> sasan_j, soon-ish
[12:12] <musictoto> !ibex > sasan_j
[12:12] <phreekbird> wondering the same thing sas
[12:12] <sluimers_> jrib, yeah, but I'm lazy and have made an sh file
[12:12] <phreekbird> !ibex
[12:12] <jrib> sluimers_: so?
[12:13] <mikebeecham> ok this is wierd...I now how sound through both my speakers and headphones when running something like youtube, but rythmnbox produces no sound?
[12:13] <outbackwifi> sasan_j:  everytime someone asks, they push the release by 2 hours; so its 04 Nov 2130
[12:13] <jrib> outbackwifi: can you leave that to the bot in #ubuntu-release-party?
[12:13] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: theres a setting in rhythmbox where you can select sound device i think
[12:13] <outbackwifi> jrib: i could if they ask  that there :)
[12:13] <mcbane> hi
[12:13] <sluimers_> jrib, ah I see
[12:14] <sluimers_> jrib, okay thanks
[12:14] <reqqit> how can I increase max connections on SSH and reduce TTL?
[12:14] <sluimers_> didn't think of trying that in the sh file
[12:14] <outbackwifi> reqqit: in /etc/ssh/sshd.conf?
[12:14] <runpain2> now the movie player quit it gave this error Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[12:14] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: gone through RB preferences and cannot see?
[12:14] <PartiBot1> IT'S OUT!
[12:14] <Kruxer> wow
[12:15] <Kruxer> patrick-1, link plz
[12:15] <mcbane> I have a laptop with ubuntu. How do I tell Ubuntu to aquire a new dhcp lease every time I plug in a network cable? It does only work, If I have the cable plugged in at boot time.
[12:15] <saftarn> i changed my xorg.conf to configure the mouse toscroll. do i need to restart vmware for it to have effect?
[12:15] <runpain2> but it was playing while that happened
[12:15] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: let me see if i can fire up rb
[12:15] <bastid_raZor> saftarn; you could just restart X inside vmware. alt ctrl backspace
[12:15] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: yer sterling mate
[12:16] <reqqit> outbackwifi, that is nuts! I will check now
[12:16] <runpain2> Please Help me agian Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[12:16] <bazhang> mcbane, sudo dhclient eth0
[12:16] <jrib> runpain2: what are you running to get that message?
[12:16] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: sorry my bad; its not there
[12:16] <Ciorapel> hello
[12:16] <runpain2> Totme movie player it was working a sec ago
[12:16] <mikebeecham> :S outbackwifi
[12:17] <mikebeecham> ok
[12:17] <Kruxer> !hi | Ciorapel
[12:17] <mcbane> bazhang: I know that. But it is a laptop that is used by many non sudoers too. And it is just plain iconvinient :)  Is there no flag that I can set, that he does that automagicly?
[12:17] <slayer> ubuntu sucks
[12:17] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: what is the default device in volume control preferences?
[12:17] <jrib> slayer: do you have a support question?
[12:17] <Ciorapel> When exactly will 8.10 lounch ?
[12:17] <jrib> !who | runpain2
[12:17] <jrib> !isitout | Ciorapel
[12:17] <slayer> jrib, do you have a support question?
[12:17] <runpain2> it is the radio station locacl here over the internet
[12:17] <Ciorapel> thanx !
[12:17] <zamba> i have a directory with a VIDEO_TS folder in.. which of course is a dvd backup.. how can i burn this?
[12:18] <zamba> to make a dvd
[12:18] <runpain2> legend2440:
[12:18] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: it's my Audigy 4 - But I have sound when on youtube, etc
[12:18] <graingert> zamba with great difficulty
[12:18] <runpain2> sorry
[12:18] <slayer> Hello
[12:18] <jrib> runpain2: what are you trying to open in totem exactly?
[12:18] <slayer> My support question is:
[12:18] <cristobalcolon> ive installed ubuntu in a pendrive, i want to update it from my HD installation how do i do that??
[12:18] <paul68> !ask > slayer
[12:18] <ce_ubuntu> ubuntu is out  http://preview.ubunut.com/8.10  !!
[12:18] <slayer> Do you have a support question? Coz I don't need no support from you, but I can support you
[12:19] <zamba> graingert: right
[12:19] <yk> test
[12:19] <outbackwifi> jrib: serves him right :)
[12:19] <phreekbird> RICKY!
[12:20] <NicEXE> I have burned a Live gparted CD... Should I just extend my extended partition or there is something that i could have in mind?
[12:20] <musictoto> ce_ubuntu: why the fake link
[12:20] <phreekbird> hahaha ricky rolled
[12:20] <cristobalcolon> can i use chroot to update a pendrive installation??
[12:20] <jim_p> NicEXE: yes it can
[12:20] <yowshi> can somebody anybode pleAse tell me whats the point of releasing updates to the os on the eve of the upgrade?
[12:20] <runpain2> nver mind i see the problem now it changse the url to mmm:// instead of http:// why would it do that on its own though??
[12:20] <saftarn> i changed the config but nowthe mouse sometimes doesnt follow
[12:21] <Kruxer> ce_ubuntu, what's that?
[12:21] <Kruxer> ce_ubuntu, i can't see ubuntu link
[12:21] <Kruxer> :(
[12:21] <compton> how do I connect to wifi using the terminal?
[12:21] <runpain2> jrib
[12:21] <saftarn> how do i maneuaver in Ubuntu with just the keyboard?
[12:21] <DJones> yowshi: 8.04 is a long term support version, not everybody will upgrade to 8.10, so updates still need to be done
[12:21] <musictoto> kruxer: it's spam
[12:21] <prince_jammys> yowshi: not everyone will upgrade
[12:21] <paul68> Kruxer he put on a fake link
[12:21] <runpain2> jirb
[12:21] <jrib> runpain2: I don't know why it would do that
[12:21] <runpain2> wierd
[12:22] <fikar> ubuntu is out now ?
[12:22] <nathan> bj
[12:22] <outbackwifi> yowshi: 8.04 is LTS
[12:22] <jrib> saftarn: alt-f1 gets you the menu.  Are you asking how to move the mouse with the keyboard?
[12:22] <Kruxer> paul68, yep,I understand that now :((
[12:22] <musictoto> !isitout > fikar
[12:22] <Guest1774> lol
[12:22] <Guest1774> anglai ?
[12:22] <Kruxer> !isitout
[12:22] <Guest1774> xD
[12:22] <paul68> !fr
[12:22] <jim_p> did anyone upgrade opera to 9.62 today?
[12:22] <Guest1774> fr aussi
[12:22] <yowshi> prince_jammys: yes i know this but today is going to be the bussiest day for the server as far as downlds go
[12:22] <alex____1> Hi everyone, I have a problem with a Amilo 2732
[12:22] <outbackwifi> jim_p: is there anything special happening with opera?
[12:23] <yowshi> why burden it more with a massive list of updates
[12:23] <alex____1> In Windows I can press Fn+F1 to activate my wireless network card
[12:23] <alex____1> but that hotkey doesn't work on Ubuntu
[12:23] <prince_jammys> surprising
[12:23] <Guest1774> y a t'il des francais ds le coin ?
[12:23] <Jess25_f> join #php
[12:23] <jrib> !fr | Guest1774
[12:24] <simon__> connect irc.budgetdedicated.com
[12:24] <Guest1774> merci gary ;).
[12:24] <jim_p> outbackwifi: not really. i saw on distrowatch that version 9.62 is out, i opened the repo because i have it disabled normally, i ran update 4-5 since then, but no lock
[12:25] <Ciorapel> Does anybody know if the RC has been changed in anyway since it was public for download ? I had a big problem with the RC and I want to know if is any chance for that problem to re-appear ?
[12:25] <yowshi> errr outbackwifi yes i know this but today is going to be the bussiest day for the server as far as downlds go, why burden it more with a massive list of updates
[12:25] <musictoto> !ibex > Ciorapel
[12:25] <openbysource>  how can i change my hostname
[12:25] <Pici> !hostname > openbysource
[12:25] <evan_> hey is twinview possible with 2 seperate nvidia cards?? im tryingit now i get visuals on both screen only 1 is accepting applications
[12:26] <quibbler_> jim_p:http://www.opera.com/download/?platform=linux
[12:26] <outbackwifi> jim_p: oh ok
[12:26] <outbackwifi> evan_: you might need to run two x server instances
[12:26] <jim_p> quibbler_: thanks but i will stay with the repo solution. safer choice
[12:26] <compton> what's the point of ubuttu sending private messages?
[12:27] <outbackwifi> yowshi: it wouldnt all be on the same server
[12:27] <compton> people could learn something if it said it in the chan
[12:27] <thoreauputic> compton: the chan is very busy - it becomes spam at times
[12:27] <graingert> evan_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html
[12:27] <gceng04> I can not record sound in ubuntu hardy, can somebody help me?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> compton: it isn't always ysed
[12:27] <thoreauputic> *used
[12:27] <saftarn> these fuckking permissios drive me crazy its worse than vista
[12:27] <mikebeecham> outbackwifi: sorted it mate...thanks for your help
[12:28] <outbackwifi> mikebeecham: what did you do?
[12:28] <saftarn> i changed xorg.conf withouit roblems, now i want to change it back and it says nom permission wtf!?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> !language saftarn
[12:28] <jrib> saftarn: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <super_admi> 中文？
[12:28] <super_admi> 晕。
[12:28] <jarussi> hi, can anyone help me to a "auto-mount" hd on the boot ok ubuntu?
[12:29] <thoreauputic> saftarn: permissions are your friends - you just aren't used to them yet
[12:29] <mikebeecham> I mistook linux to act like windows in the sound area...Rythmnbox runs through PCM Front, where are there's also 'Master' and other surrounds for headphones.  I simply upped all the volume controls till I located the right one
[12:29] <super_admi> auto-mount hd?
[12:29] <gceng04>  I can not record sound in ubuntu hardy, can somebody help me?
[12:29] <evan_> super_admi: this is an english channle we dont understand you
[12:29] <blunder> ok guys
[12:29] <mikebeecham> one question I do have, is how I find what is currently running on my system?
[12:29] <outbackwifi> saftarn: use sudo and dont blame the environment for your limitations
[12:29] <mikebeecham> I used to do ctrl+_alt_delete on windows
[12:29] <jrib> mikebeecham: system -> administration -> system monitor
[12:29] <super_admi> o,thanks.
[12:29] <blunder> what is the deal with the floodbot heheh
[12:30] <thoreauputic> mikearr: run "top" in a terminal is one way :)
[12:30] <attonbitusira> Hello everyone.
[12:30] <thoreauputic> erm mikebeecham
[12:30] <mikebeecham> jrib: thanks mate
[12:30] <blunder> its a "tad" sensitive
[12:30] <KaiForce> can the hardy live CD read JFS?
[12:30] <zamba> how do i create a dvd video in ubuntu?
[12:30] <jarussi> super_admi: yeah, something to mount other partitions other than the system, automatic ...
[12:30] <mikebeecham> thoreauputic: yes mate?
[12:31] <super_admi> oh,my god,so mess.
[12:31] <dr_willis> zamba,  i use the DeVeDe program for that normally
[12:31] <attonbitusira> I was surprised to see the "Coming Soon!" on the ubuntu home page. Anyone have details of an exact release date?
[12:31] <jim_p> zamba: mandvd or devede to make it from an avi or mpeg or similar file
[12:31] <JewingGum> Hello
[12:31] <JewingGum> Is 8.10 out?
[12:31] <zamba> jim_p: i have my files as VIDEO_TS
[12:31] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: I mis-tabbed - I said" run "top" in a terminal is one way : "
[12:31] <zamba> jim_p: now i just have to create the iso
[12:31] <csilk> ubuntu.com says 8.10 coming soon. Is there an eta on that?
[12:31] <mikebeecham> thoreauputic: thanks mate :D
[12:31] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: to see what is running
[12:31] <outbackwifi> zamba: mkisofs
[12:31] <dr_willis> 'when its done'
[12:31] <jim_p> zamba: k3b or brasero to make it if its on dvd structure
[12:31] <attonbitusira> @csilk, i'm wondering the same
[12:32] <JonTheNiceGuy> "8.10 gets delayed by 2 hours each time a person asks"
[12:32] <JonTheNiceGuy> :)
[12:32] <mikebeecham> I have unticked "show icon in system tray" and now i cant access it again :(
[12:32] <zamba> jim_p: brasero can only burn isos
[12:32] <mikebeecham> I'm such a linux noob
[12:32] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: or install htop - it's better and has pretty colours ;p
[12:32] <mikebeecham> thoreauputic: why didnt you say so...I love colours of all kinds :D
[12:32] <attonbitusira> [retracts previous question]
[12:32] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: gnome has a system monitor as well
[12:32]  * ntinos_ is away: im going away from keyboard
[12:33] <walker> hey... everyone else just waiting for the new ubuntu to be released?
[12:33] <zamba> outbackwifi: too many options.. my brain hurts already
[12:33] <jim_p> zamba: you want it to turn into an iso? k3b then and save it as iso. i will install brasero later if you want more ifo
[12:33] <jim_p> info
[12:33] <csilk> JonTheNiceGuy, I'm sure that's a quote from someone who is fedup of answering that question, a good way to solve that problem is to make a status post on ubuntu.com
[12:33] <zamba> jim_p: no, i want to burn it as a dvd video
[12:33] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: System -Admin - System Monitor
[12:33] <zamba> jim_p: problem is that brasero haven't got an option for dvd video
[12:33] <zamba> jim_p: so i have to have it as an iso first
[12:33] <JonTheNiceGuy> @csilk sorry, I copied from #ubuntu-release-party :)
[12:33] <JonTheNiceGuy> I'm not involved in the release in any way shape or form
[12:33] <csilk> JonTheNiceGuy, hahah nice
[12:34] <zamba> nvm, k3b did the trick
[12:34] <Iradieh> Excuse me, is it wrong to ask when the new version will be released?
[12:34] <JewingGum> Is 8.10 out?
[12:35] <graingert> JewingGum: no
[12:35] <jrib> !isitout | Iradieh, JewingGum
[12:35] <Pici> !away > ntinos_
[12:35] <firewire> hey ubuntu
[12:35] <firewire> who is using hardy
[12:36] <firewire>   
[12:36] <firewire>  
[12:36] <firewire>  
[12:36] <FloodBot3> firewire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <FloodBot1> firewire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <Intey> i know this sounds too simple but seeing that wave of approx 2000 users in the past 3 hours, having asked whether it's out or not...it shows that it should be shown on the ubuntu.com site more clearly
[12:36] <khtwicked> hay
[12:36] <khtwicked> anyone knows where 8.10 is?
[12:36] <outbackwifi> firewire: a better question would be ; who isnt
[12:36] <Pici> !isitout | khtwicked
[12:36] <bmzh> how to tunnel internet packages using winscp??? ( linux(kde) --> vista)
[12:36] <bmzh> ?
[12:36] <zamba> wtf? when i now try to burn the video dvd, k3b says it can't determine the size of the image..
[12:36] <bmzh> any good tutorial
[12:36] <zamba> why do stuff like this have to be this friggin' difficult?
[12:37] <Stacy8282> Hi
[12:37] <outbackwifi> bmzh: what do you mean tunnel packages (did you mean packets?)
[12:37] <firewire> does anyone whow where to get the gui for nmap?
[12:37] <Stacy8282> I just had to install ubuntu again cause it wouldnt load up. Is there a way I can get to files that were on my old install?
[12:37] <Pici> !info zenmap | firewire
[12:37] <firewire> just put your hardrive in an external case and copy them
[12:37] <bmzh> yes, i want to configure firefox to get internet from a server
[12:38] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: you probably selected "Entire Disk" during partitioning and nuked your old data
[12:38] <firewire> thanks ubottu
[12:38] <bmzh> through a winscp tunnel
[12:38] <Stacy8282> I chose "Guided"
[12:38] <firewire> if you nuked your old drive your screwed
[12:38] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi - it was the "Guided" one I picked
[12:38] <outbackwifi> bmzh: you can setup an SSH tunnel
[12:39] <firewire> then you need to read the other partition from your old setup
[12:39] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: did it not format your existing partitions? then you are in luck
[12:39] <jrib> bmzh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Setting%20up%20apt-get%20to%20use%20a%20http-proxy will help as well (sorry for the long url)
[12:39] <firewire> stacy:you need to mount you old partition
[12:40] <badpanther> yes
[12:40] <Teisei> Can anybody tell what's the difference between generic and rt kernels? Like the main differences ... is rt kernel any good?
[12:40] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi - No I dont think so. It just put stuff back to default so I cant see the folders I had made in the old install. How do I see my old folders?
[12:40] <firewire> mount the old partition
[12:40] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: you mount your old partitions and then browse to the mount point
[12:41] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi - Um. How do I do all that?
[12:41] <pulicio> salve
[12:41] <outbackwifi> Teisei: if you dont know what rt is better leave it alone (rt --> realtime)
[12:41] <firewire> i can help on that
[12:41] <pulicio> list
[12:41] <badpanther> what are you say
[12:41] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: sudo fdisk -l
[12:41] <Teisei> outbackwifi: Ok, thanks
[12:41] <firewire> terminal: mount /mnt/"device name"
[12:41] <KJ83The2nd> anyone know how many hours to release of 8.10?
[12:41] <pulicio> server list
[12:41] <Pici> !isitout | KJ83The2nd
[12:41] <Guest92626> xdcc send #n
[12:42] <brutus> why doesnt my usb drive mount automatically when plugged in?
[12:42] <outbackwifi> !who | firewire
[12:42] <jrib> brutus: is it formatted?
[12:42] <jim_p> brutus: what filesystem is it ?
[12:42] <badpanther> firewire
[12:42] <pulicio> list
[12:43] <badpanther> list what
[12:43] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi: OK I have three things under the "Device Boot" column. Now what?
[12:44] <badpanther> you can search on google
[12:44] <badpanther> choose the bold
[12:44] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: you could paste that in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <firestorm> Hi there. On intrepid 8.10 I find that if my wireless card is set to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces, ubuntu startup hangs. Anybody able to confirm?
[12:44] <badpanther> close it
[12:44] <Handcrafted> How many hours are there till they'll let us download?
[12:44] <Pici> !isitout | Handcrafted
[12:45] <brutus> anyone?
[12:45] <badpanther> fuck
[12:45] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi - http://paste.ubuntu.com/64593/
[12:45] <Pici> badpanther, Please watch your language in this channel, thank you.
[12:46] <badpanther> sorry
[12:46] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: looks like your old data is in sda2
[12:47] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2
[12:47] <eleftherios> after updating to 8.10 from 8.04, log out doesn't work, suspend doesn't work, function keys don't work, network manager lost all the network keys
[12:47] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2
[12:47] <eleftherios> and god knows how many more things
[12:47] <outbackwifi> !intrepid
[12:48] <reqqit> ok, so I am looking at my sshd_config and not having any luck with TTL settings, or max connections
[12:48] <reqqit> htp://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/50/ssh-server-config.html
[12:48] <Stacy8282> outbackwifi: for the "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2" it says "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[12:48] <Rxax> hi!I am Raxa and i am from Serbia,enybodi for chat?
[12:48] <reqqit> max-connections is referenced in this document, but seems a different file format for config
[12:49] <reqqit> !jovial
[12:49] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: strike that sda2 is your swap!!
[12:49]  * reqqit says next version is jovial jackal
[12:49] <bazhang> Rxax, this is not a chat channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[12:50] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: you seem to have nuked old data
[12:50] <Stacy8282> crap
[12:50] <M0E-lnx> anyone know if Intrepid is still shceduled to release today?
[12:50] <pw-> 242x support didn't get pushed back, did it? release will still have it?
[12:51] <JewingGum> 8.10 has failed us, it passed the half of the 30th october here and it is still not out......
[12:51] <Stacy8282> Thank you though outbackwifi
[12:51] <outbackwifi> Stacy8282: yw
[12:51] <csilk> JewingGum, That's hardly a reason to claim "it has failed us"
[12:51] <Pici> !isitout | JewingGum M0E-lnx
[12:52] <reqqit> Anyone have a 6.06 server and has stuned TTL and max connections for ssh?
[12:52] <reqqit> Can't find relevant info :/
[12:52] <scunizi> csilk, I think he made that statement with tung in cheek
[12:52] <Martiini> does sbackup run recursively ??
[12:52] <csilk> scunizi, I'm in a literal mood ;)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:53] <csilk> you say something, I take it literally
[12:53] <Martiini> to me it seems sbackup doesnt run recursively .. although I wish it would
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> oh he takes it ;)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Martinp23: most ommands have a -R switch
[12:54] <real_ate> hey guys... just wondering
[12:54] <nabil2199> is it out yet :)
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !isithere
[12:55] <fserve> nops, get delayed 2h when someone asks : (
[12:55] <Pici> !isitout | nabil2199
[12:55] <real_ate> if you install the RC cos you can't just wait for the thingy... will it be ok to upgrade?
[12:55] <Pici> !final | real_ate
[12:55] <nabil2199> was kidding
[12:55] <piasdom> i can't access my cdrom0 after running vbox...anyone know why ?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: is vbox mounting the cd drive?
[12:56] <real_ate> Pici: thanks for that ;) you're a star
[12:56] <nabil2199> way to be yelled at by a bot
[12:56] <piasdom> ActionParsnip;yes
[12:56] <Ausuna> how many hours do i have to wait till the release?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: thats why then, its locking the resource
[12:56] <chadeldridge1> Ausuna: forever ...
[12:56] <piasdom> ActionParsnip;even after i close vbox ?
[12:57] <Iradieh> Excuse me, is it better to get a fresh install of the latest version or can you upgrade from RC...... does it matter?
[12:57] <Iradieh> Please answer
[12:57] <chadeldridge1> Iradieh: its the same thing
[12:57] <piasdom> ActionParsnip;i even disable cdrom in setting
[12:57] <grizzancs> !final | Iradieh
[12:57] <grizzancs> wow ;)
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: make sure none of vbox is running
[12:57] <chadeldridge1> anyone else getting annoyed yet ?
[12:57] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: how ?
[12:57] <thijsvdanker> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[12:57] <thijsvdanker> it's there
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: ps -ef | grep -i box
[12:57] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:58] <Pici> thijsvdanker: Its not out until its been announced.
[12:58] <jason__> im annoyed I think it will be 11:59 pm
[12:58] <thijsvdanker> Pici: depends on your definition :)
[12:58] <jason__> when is holloween
[12:58] <jason__> ?
[12:58] <piasdom> why is everyone so in a rush to upgrade ?.....i like 8.04
[12:58] <Pici> !isitout | jason__
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: vbox is hogging it for some reason, dont have it using any cd drives or isos, disable that feature altogether
[12:59] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: i did that before..some outcome
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: maybe theres a bug in virtualbox
[13:00] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: NOOOO....:)   thanks
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: do some websearching
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: there may be a switch or a config you can do
[13:01] <Cripps> hello folk ... I left my computer running the other day, and when I came back to it (after a power failure) and turned it back on, it kicked me into CLI, I've tried running /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 restart ... but it fails with "stat: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm: no such file or directory" running startx runs just fine. Any ideas on how I might fix this?
[13:01] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: ps -ef shows it running...how can i stop it ?
[13:01] <Cripps> piasdom: kill -15 `pidof <appname>`
[13:02] <krish_> iam not able to install the base system in linux server edition
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: kill <leftmost number>
[13:02] <krish_> pls help me
[13:02] <Cripps> piasdon: 15 is SIGTERM, if that doesn't work, SIGSEGV is 11, and SIGKILL is 9
[13:02] <Pici> !ask | krish_
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: if it refuses, get sudo on its ass
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: thets why its not freed
[13:02] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: thanks   ahahahhahahahah..........love sudo
[13:02] <Ausuna> is the image from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ the official release image?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: rememer its gksudo / kdesudo for graphical apps
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: dont use sudo gedit for example
[13:03] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: i've always used just sudo.....is that wrong ?
[13:04] <krish_> iam not able to install the base system in linux server edition
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: yes, it doesnt set up the environment correctly and can damage permissions and ownerships
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: sudo is for stuff that stays n terminal like cp, apt-get, nano
[13:04] <slayton> If i set environment variables in the root bashrc will those variables be used when I run sudo?
[13:04] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: "K"..so now on i'll use gksudo
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: you can technically use gksudo for both
[13:04] <outbackwifi> krish_: are you trying to install 8.04 server?
[13:05] <Pici> AskHL: No.
[13:05] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: thanks a bunch
[13:05] <Pici> AskHL: sorry, mistype
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: im always emailing people who write guides with sudo gedit
[13:05] <krish_> yes iam trying to install ubuntu server 8.04 edition
[13:06] <Ausuna> is the image from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ the official release image? someone?
[13:06] <Canaman> Hello, my syster buy a china mp4 player and i cant access it in linux. There are a lot of usb errors. I cant run fdisk or mkfs on the device. Someone can help?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> krish_: did you md5sum the iso?
[13:06] <erry> hello why doesnt gedit run
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Canaman: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l
[13:06] <erry> my gedit wont run anymore
[13:06] <krish_> wat is md5sum?
[13:06] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: i tried the kill...but it didn't do anything....which leftmost number ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> erry: what errors do you get when you run it from terminal?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> piasdom: can you give me the line that represents the app
[13:07] <erry> it ran now.
[13:07] <erry> but
[13:07] <Aciid> has the GM been released for now?
[13:07] <erry> it looks frozen
[13:07] <piasdom> ActionParsnip: with ps -ef.....  ....i get itt      13243 11350  0 08:05 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i box
[13:07] <erry> it ran but its frozen
[13:07] <erry> i think my settings are to blame
[13:07] <krish_> pls help me with installing ubuntu server edition
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> erry: if you run it from terminal, you will get outputs
[13:07] <erry> can i restore gedit to its original setup?
[13:07] <Canaman> ActionParsnip: i think not, i can test now, but i remember that i cant apears in /proc/partitions or /dev anyway
[13:07] <Aciid> when will the 8.10 be officially released?
[13:07] <Webmaster> lol
[13:08] <erry> (gedit:8177): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory 48x48/apps of theme Boulevard-1.0 has no size field
[13:08] <erry> that's all i get
[13:08] <outbackwifi> piasdom: it isnt running
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Canaman: id resolve your usb errors
[13:08] <Webmaster> Hello o.o
[13:08] <erry> oh
[13:08] <Aciid> when is 8.10 going to be releaseeeed
[13:08] <erry> finally started working
[13:08] <piasdom> thanks outbackwifi
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> erry: theres a great place to start searching for answers
[13:08] <piasdom> then i'm lost
[13:08] <musictoto> !isitout > Aciid
[13:08] <erry> nevermind
[13:08] <Webmaster> lol
[13:08] <Webmaster> hi erry
[13:08] <Aciid> aw
[13:08] <DePaule> how to upgrade vom hardy to ibex in terminal?
[13:08] <erry> so when is 8.10 official
[13:08] <erry> Webmaster, i dont know u
[13:08] <Webmaster> How
[13:08] <Webmaster> Huh
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> !isithere | DePaule
[13:09] <Webmaster> How do i login as root
[13:09] <outbackwifi> piasdom, vbox also has a module that runs; you can try to /etc/init.d/vbox  stop it
[13:09] <Ausuna> ubottu: send me a copy of that pm
[13:09] <jeroen-> it is delayed for 6 months
[13:09] <Webmaster> How do u login as root
[13:09] <chadeldridge1> Webmaster: use sudo ... dont login as root
[13:09] <zamba> i have a file which 'file' reports back is "AutoCAD".. what can i use to open this?
[13:09] <musictoto> ActionParsnip: the command is !isitout :)
[13:09] <bazhang> Webmaster, use sudo
[13:09] <Webmaster> i dont get that :/
[13:09] <bazhang> !sudo | Webmaster
[13:09] <Webmaster> OKAY
[13:09] <Webmaster> GOOSH
[13:09] <jason__> I want to do an encrypted hard drive. My computer has 2 gigs RAM and 2ghz Core 2. I use computer for normal stuff and watching DVDs> x86 or AMD64?
[13:09] <erry> oh dear
[13:09] <Webmaster> DONT GET FUNNY WITH ME
[13:09] <erry> im out of here
[13:09] <Canaman> ActionParsnip: what means "id"? i know only the command to show user id.
[13:09] <erry> i do not know this guy
[13:09] <lorenzo> hi, how do I check if my firewall is active? I am trying to get rid of a low ID on aMule :)
[13:09] <musictoto> !caps > webmaster
[13:09] <Webmaster> :@
[13:09] <erry> I dont know Webmaster
[13:10] <erry> i really dont!
[13:10] <Webmaster> LEAVE ME LONE
[13:10] <erry> bye
[13:10] <Webmaster> goosh
[13:10] <erry> Oh dear
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Canaman: id == i'd
[13:10]  * erry cries
[13:10] <Webmaster> :o
[13:10] <erry> Webmaster,
[13:10] <bazhang> erry, stop
[13:10] <erry> please
[13:10] <erry> not in here
[13:10] <erry> OH ME STOP
[13:10] <bazhang> Webmaster, you too
[13:10] <musictoto> !enter
[13:10] <erry> im trying to help this guy not get banned
[13:10] <jason__> can anyone help me decide?
[13:10] <Webmaster> lol
[13:10] <erry> GOSH
[13:10] <jason__> I want to do an encrypted hard drive. My computer has 2 gigs RAM and 2ghz Core 2. I use computer for normal stuff and watching DVDs> x86 or AMD64?
[13:10] <erry> im the one whol get banned
[13:10] <Webmaster> I AMM STIPING
[13:10] <Webmaster> CALM DOWN
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> zamba: whats the full file name?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !caps | Webmaster
[13:11] <KRossKoWolf> lol
[13:11] <outbackwifi> Webmaster: does  your keyboard have a capslock key?
[13:11] <Webmaster> LOL
[13:11] <Webmaster> I DUNNO ITS GLITCHED :'(
[13:11] <piasdom> outbackwifi: i get no such file or dir....i ran it as a command....is that right ?
[13:11] <Webmaster> IT WONT GET OFF
[13:11] <Webmaster> *HOLDS SHIFT
[13:11] <Webmaster> better o>o
[13:11] <PiRANiA> Webmaster FAIL
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: reoot and it will be off
[13:11] <madrazr> Ausuna: I think they are, are you downloading?
[13:11] <Webmaster> wtf
[13:11] <bazhang> Webmaster, please chat elsewhere
[13:11] <Pici> !caps
[13:12] <outbackwifi> piasdom: lsmod | grep vbox
[13:12] <Webmaster> :o
[13:12] <WoAC> jason_ : x86 for u :)
[13:12] <shesek> how can I offer my server to be a mirror?
[13:12] <pirdon> Hello pidirasti
[13:12] <KRossKoWolf> anyone perhaps able to assist me with installing blackbox on Intrepid RC?
[13:12] <Webmaster> Ban erry
[13:12] <jason__> thank you WoAC
[13:12] <piasdom> outbackwifi: vboxdrv                56948  0
[13:12] <musictoto> !ibex > Krosskowolf
[13:12] <Ausuna> madrazr: yes, but i would take 3 hours, my browser said
[13:13] <JCante> does anybody know if 8.10 will work with Wubi?
[13:13] <madrazr> Ausuna: ouch, why?
[13:13] <Webmaster> how do u login as root
[13:13] <Webmaster> -.-'
[13:13] <bazhang> Webmaster, you dont
[13:13] <kestaz> where to get 8.10 ?
[13:13] <bazhang> Webmaster, use sudo
[13:13] <musictoto> JCante: it will work, but you better ask here: #ubuntu+1
[13:13] <Ausuna> madrazr: 70kb per second
[13:13] <lfs>  man fork
[13:13] <lfs> No manual entry for fork
[13:13] <lfs> <- why?
[13:13] <Webmaster> lol
[13:13] <musictoto> !ibex >kestaz
[13:13] <Webmaster> wth is sudo im dumb
[13:13] <madrazr> Ausuna: Oh OK
[13:13] <Webmaster> <.<
[13:14] <AukeF> Hey! I'm running into an issue with python and urrlib2, getting a 'no route to host' error (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/python/+bug/94130).  Is anyone familiar with this?
[13:14]  * Cripps likes having root shells
[13:14] <Webmaster> dont make me go back to laggy windows vista
[13:14] <Webmaster> how do you login as root
[13:14] <chadeldridge1> lol
[13:14] <kestaz> musictoto: i don't want -rc
[13:14] <scarface> !sudo
[13:14] <Cripps> scarface, too late, 'es gone.
[13:15] <musictoto> kestaz: it's not out yet, look here: #ubuntu-release-party
[13:15] <Webmaster> :@
[13:15] <Webmaster> who the fuck kicked me out
[13:15] <Webmaster> what did i do
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: you never log in as root, just sudo everything you need root access for
[13:15] <Cripps> Webmaster: one of ubuntu's features is "no root user"
[13:15] <lfs> why is there no fork command in ubuntu?
[13:15] <bazhang> Webmaster, no cursing
[13:15] <Webmaster> oh
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !fork
[13:15] <Webmaster> sorry
[13:15] <krish_> my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM
[13:15] <bazhang> Webmaster, we told you to use sudo. stop repeating yourself
[13:15] <Webmaster> <.<
[13:15] <scientus> how do i turn off the screen flash?
[13:15] <Cripps> !su | Webmaster
[13:15] <Webmaster> i dont know how to use sudo crap
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> krish_: did you md5check the cd image and cd once it was burned
[13:15] <chadeldridge1> krish_: you should burn it at a slower speed then ... try that
[13:15] <Webmaster> itd cinfusing
[13:15] <krish_>  my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM what to do?
[13:15] <DeathWolf> why is the ubuntu tracker down?
[13:15] <crascott> !spoon
[13:15] <bazhang> Webmaster, read the link
[13:15] <krish_>  my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM what to do?
[13:15] <ivnz> HI all
[13:16] <Cripps> Webmaster: read that link.
[13:16] <lfs> if a user can sudo what protects the root account?
[13:16] <krish_>  my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM what to do?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: you type: sudo <whatever command you want>
[13:16] <Webmaster> what link
[13:16] <der|kunstler> when I mount an ISO to any directory (even if I own the directory with permissions 777), it says permission denied.... that didn't happen before, any ideas on why this is happening ?
[13:16] <Webmaster> okay
[13:16] <krish_>  my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM what to do?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: and type your own login pasword
[13:16] <jrib> lfs: only users in the admin group can sudo
[13:16] <Webmaster> yeah
[13:16] <vega> krish_: at least not to repeat your question every second
[13:16] <Cripps> lfs: unix groups and permissions.
[13:16] <musictoto> !who > webmaster
[13:16] <Webmaster> wth
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: also cut the cussing or you will gte banned by ops
[13:16] <krish_> pls help me
[13:16] <krish_>  my cd is showing  CD you have inserted is not a valid ubuntu CDROM what to do?
[13:16] <Webmaster> <.<
[13:16] <vega> krish_: that will not get you help but a kick out of the channel
[13:16] <willie> is the new release 1300 *GMT* ?
[13:16] <Webmaster> ban me then
[13:16] <pirdon> p'mn;ty
[13:16] <pirdon> uj'67emhm56e'j;
[13:16] <Cripps> krish_ patience.
[13:16] <pirdon> t67i5.,nuh'56uyh
[13:16] <pirdon> 6t]'jk67'3;ukhj
[13:16] <pirdon> 42u6h
[13:16] <FloodBot3> pirdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <pirdon> j57jk
[13:16] <pirdon> 5'62[ujh
[13:16] <prince_jammys> yes, do
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: i cant im just warning you as a fellow user
[13:16] <jrib> pirdon: english please
[13:17] <Webmaster> :@
[13:17] <shesek> KrimZon, check the md5 before burning the CD?
[13:17] <ivnz> ab could propose me C++ IDE for linux and windows
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> willie: GMT is UK time
[13:17] <ivnz> ?
[13:17] <shesek> oops
[13:17] <Webmaster> I dont get this
[13:17] <shesek> I meant krish_
[13:17] <Webmaster> @.@
[13:17] <der|kunstler> when I mount an ISO to any directory (even if I own the directory with permissions 777), it says permission denied.... that didn't happen before, any ideas on why this is happening ?
[13:17] <shesek> how can I offer my server to be a mirror?
[13:17] <musictoto> jrib: i think pirdon got kicked by floodbot :)
[13:17] <Webmaster> HOW DO YOU LOGIN AS ROOOT
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: if you need admin power for a command, put sudo in front of it
[13:17] <Webmaster> ROOOOOOOOOOOOT
[13:17] <FloodBot3> Webmaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <Webmaster> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> !root > Webmaster
[13:17] <lfs> !root
[13:17] <willie> ActionParsnip: yes I know :-)  -- Im dying for the new release - wanna get torrenting.....
[13:18]  * KrimZon stops half way through looking for an md5
[13:18] <KrimZon> wait what?
[13:18] <Webmaster> :@
[13:18] <joaopinto> der|kunstler, the permissions for mounted systems are affected by the mount options, not by the mount point permissions
[13:18] <der|kunstler> when I mount an ISO to any directory (even if I own the directory with permissions 777), it says permission denied.... that didn't happen before, any ideas on why this is happening ?
[13:18] <pirdon> youkoyp;lityti
[13:18] <lfs> if I run a process without sudo what stops it from executing sudo itself?
[13:18] <KrimZon> ;p
[13:18] <pirdon> yl;jjokyrjh
[13:18] <pirdon> jhojje-t0yhkkotyyuiu
[13:18] <Webmaster> wth
[13:18] <Webmaster> :@
[13:18] <pirdon> [
[13:18] <FloodBot3> pirdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <pirdon> 0k;l'y;k
[13:18] <Webmaster> how do i get in as root just type sudo
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ifs: sudo itself?
[13:18] <jrib> lfs: it can try, but you'll have to enter a password
[13:18] <musictoto> ops, get pirdon to talk english or get ot of here
[13:18] <Webmaster> Howwwwwwwwwwwww
[13:18] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, I use what I use always:  mount -t iso9660 -o loop image path
[13:18] <Webmaster> Come one
[13:18] <prince_jammys> Webmaster: sudo -i
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: you can sudo -i
[13:18] <Webmaster> dont be mean
[13:18] <Pici> Webmaster: Stop
[13:18] <FloodBot3> Webmaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <jrib> Webmaster: did you read the link the bot gave you?
[13:18] <der|kunstler> Webmaster, sudo su
[13:18] <vega> kick him already
[13:18] <Webmaster> huh
[13:18] <prince_jammys> yes!
[13:18] <Webmaster> thats the problem
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> der|kunstler: sudo -i is preffered
[13:18] <joaopinto> der|kunstler, read man mount, you need to use the uid/gid/mask options for the mount
[13:19] <Webmaster> my account has expiered
[13:19] <Webmaster> LOL
[13:19] <der|kunstler> ActionParsnip, got it
[13:19] <Webmaster> help D:
[13:19] <clee-saan> okay, easy question. I'm reading a FAQ telling me to "from the panel menu, navigate to Desktop Preferences->Theme.". I cannot, for the life of me, do that =$ Please help
[13:19] <lfs> jrib, how come I'm not asked for a password when I use sudo?
[13:19] <Cripps> BTW, I figured out what my issue was ... I had uninstalled a kde4 app which took out some of the other kde4 stuff with it, although apparently not cleanly. I just had to reinstall kdm-kde4 and kde4, otherwise I could have just used /etc/init.d/kdm (for kde3) and stuck with a kde3 session.
[13:19] <Cripps> brb
[13:19] <jrib> lfs: it saves the password for 15 minutes
[13:19] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, ok... I know what u're talking about, but before it mounted it just fine...
[13:19] <ajunior> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: then boot to livecd and chroot to your install, then you can reset your password
[13:19] <ajunior> oh... sorry
[13:19] <Pici> ajunior: Its not out yet.
[13:19] <Webmaster> :D
[13:19] <Pici> !isitout | ajunior
[13:19] <Webmaster> kick me please
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: lots of work
[13:20] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, what's the gommand for getting the user id for a user ?
[13:20] <bazhang> !offtopic | Webmaster
[13:20] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, nvm, id
[13:20] <lfs> jrib, does that include sudo use by new processes?
[13:20] <outbackwifi> ubottu kicking Webmaster
[13:20] <cowbellemoo> clee-saan: it's Settings > Prefs > Appearance now
[13:20] <Webmaster> Lol
[13:20] <jrib> lfs: yes, from the same terminal
[13:20] <Webmaster> This is funny
[13:20] <Webmaster> xD
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: if you /leaveits the same thing
[13:20] <chadeldridge1> thank you pici
[13:20] <clee-saan> cowbellemoo: thanks
[13:21] <prince_jammys> Pici: great thanks.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Webmaster: type /leave and it will be the same
[13:21] <eleftherios> Thinkpad T61 with Quadro NVS 140M, all working fine in 8.04, how can I (at least) fix suspend which stopped working? Thanks
[13:21] <lfs> jrib, so if I sudo iwconfig then run some untrusted prog after it could gain root access for 15 min?
[13:21] <jrib> lfs: yes
[13:21] <chadeldridge1> ActionParsnip: pici kicked him .. thank god
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> oh, ok cool
[13:21] <eleftherios> I have upgraded to 8.10, hence the problem
[13:21] <lfs> jrib, wow, shouldn't there be a warning about that?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> eleftherios: its a lot of pain and really not worth it imho
[13:22] <cumulus007> guys, is this real: http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[13:22] <jrib> lfs: file a bug
[13:22] <rohan> cumulus007: it's not, it's leaked one
[13:22] <Pici> cumulus007: No. Wait for the release announcement.
[13:22] <musictoto> cumulus007 it's not out yet
[13:22] <Pici> !isitout | cumulus007
[13:22] <|chiz|> lfs: if you don't like that you can change it in /etc/sudoers
[13:22] <ivnz> guys what C++ IDE you use?
[13:22] <lfs> MSVC
[13:22] <prince_jammys> lfs: you can change the delay if you like, plus you'd still have to sudo the untrusted command
[13:22] <kinkie> vim
[13:22] <cumulus007> hmm, okay
[13:22] <osiris_> Anyone any idea when the next release will be available?
[13:23] <jrib> prince_jammys: you don't have to sudo the untrusted command, it can call sudo inside
[13:23] <eleftherios> ActionParsnip: tell me about it. I was stupid enough to make it upgrade overnight and today I haven't done any work. It has toasted my T61.
[13:23] <lfs> prince_jammys, you'd still have to sudo the untrusted command? It can't sudo itself?
[13:23] <Ohmu> Hello all!  Every time I want to connect to the internet, I have to load up a terminal and do 'sudo wvdial TATA'.  Then - if it's just booted, I have to manually load stuff likke skype, pidgin and xchat. Can anyone help me do a script that'll automate this?  Also it would be nice to make an icon in the tray, and clicking on the icon would show what I currently see in the terminal (useful for seeing what IP I get assigned, and the status eg connecting, disconne
[13:23] <Ohmu> cted, running) - the same way you can click on 'show details' for installations etc and it shows you the terminal output.  Is this simple in python?  I've managed to do a tray icon appear in Python.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> ivnz: elcipse
[13:23] <musictoto> !isitout | osiris_
[13:23] <prince_jammys> jrib: well, then the original command was the untrusted command :)
[13:23] <osiris_> Cheers musictoto
[13:23] <prince_jammys> if you have a problem with it sudoing.
[13:23] <musictoto> osiris_ no problem :)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> eleftherios: just shutdown and your document history is in recent docs and bash history is in ~/.bash_history
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> eleftherios: i cant see any point personally
[13:24] <ivnz> ActionParsnip, there is version for windows? I'm using windows in my work but I need to practise soo..
[13:24] <cumulus007> oh whatever, I'm just downloading it
[13:24] <prince_jammys> jrib: ah, never mind. i get it.
[13:24] <eleftherios> ActionParsnip: function keys, suspend, lost network manager keys, log-out, user lost some settings
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> ivnz: ask in ##windows
[13:24] <nasser> Cannot join #ubuntu-release-party (You are banned)   |  * | please remove the ban | * |
[13:24] <Bruners> anyone could tell me why i really low performance when i disable Visual Effects? Ghosting on windows when i drag them etc, but everything is smooth with normal or extra enabled.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> eleftherios: sounds brilliant....NOT
[13:24] <Gonzo42> ﻿Must have been asked like a thousand times today but.... when is the release?
[13:24] <leohartx> sigh
[13:24] <musictoto> nasser: i suspect you're banned there for a reason ?
[13:24] <jrib> !isitout | Gonzo42
[13:25] <chadeldridge1>  /facepalm
[13:25] <unop> Gonzo42, what release? intrepid?
[13:25] <Gonzo42> thanks
[13:25] <Gonzo42> yep intrepid
[13:25] <musictoto> !ibex | Gonzo42
[13:25] <Tophat> what time is 8.10 gonna be avaliable?
[13:25] <weirdo> when came the finale release of ubuntu 8.10?
[13:25] <leohartx> when will intrepix come out ?
[13:25] <Pici> !isitout | Tophat weirdo leohartx
[13:25] <bazhang> Tophat, read the /topic
[13:25] <prince_jammys> wow
[13:25] <prince_jammys> ubunters have lost their mind!
[13:26] <Ohmu> If anyone has some time and patience to help me please PM me
[13:26] <ganapati> hi
[13:26] <musictoto> Ohmu: just ask your question
[13:26] <slayton> Tophat, every person that asks delays the release by 1hour
[13:26] <Bit_Breaker> Ohmu: what do u need help with
[13:26] <bazhang> Ohmu, please ask here
[13:26] <Tophat> haha
[13:26] <leohartx> i've monitored for 1 day
[13:26] <musictoto> !ask | Ohmu
[13:26] <Tophat> didn't mean to offend
[13:27] <jken146> \join #ubuntu
[13:27] <slayton> Tophat, not it says that in #ubuntu-release-party under the discussion tab
[13:27] <Pici> jken146: You're already here
[13:27] <shesek> Hey, how can I offer my server to be a mirror?
[13:27] <slayton> discussion header
[13:27] <mayeco> where is 8.10?
[13:27] <Pici> !isitout | mayeco
[13:27] <musictoto> !ibex > mayeco
[13:27] <mayeco> where is 8.10?
[13:27] <n00bier> mayeco, in my pocket
[13:27] <imthemp3king> hello, I have a networking question.  I have issues at work trying to connect to systems using the fully qualified names that share the same DNS suffix that I get from DHCP.  But I have no problems connecting to systems using the fully qualified names of systems that have a different DNS suffix.  Has anyone else seen this issue?
[13:27] <n00bier> mayeco, come here and grab it
[13:27] <Ohmu> musictoto, I did ask, scroll up :)
[13:27] <eleftherios> how can I downgrade to 8.04?
[13:27] <intrepid-ibex> http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[13:27] <slayton> Ohmu, re ask!
[13:27] <rohan> eleftherios: you can't
[13:27] <leohartx> so, when will 8.10 come out ?
[13:27] <bazhang> eleftherios, reinstall
[13:27] <mayeco> ... lool n0
[13:27] <mayeco> ... lool n00bier
[13:28] <rohan> eleftherios: debian based systems are not made for downgrading easily
[13:28] <chadeldridge1> imthemp3king: have you checked your /etc/resolve.conf file
[13:28] <slayton> leohartx, never
[13:28] <Pici> intrepid-ibex: Its not out until the release announcement has been made.
[13:28] <Pici> !isitout
[13:28] <nasser> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[13:28] <leohartx> dont tease me :(
[13:28] <Pici> nasser: Please stop
[13:28] <weirdo> when came xubuntu 8.10? also today ?
[13:28] <g0tcha> hey guys, i added a new user and when i ssh'd to it i cant ls the home dir, it tells me permission denied, anyone know how to fix that?
[13:28] <shesek> no one? :\
[13:28] <musictoto> Ohmu: i can't help you with that
[13:28] <Ohmu> Slayton: Every time I want to connect to the internet, I have to load up a terminal and do 'sudo wvdial TATA'.  Then - if it's just booted, I have to manually load stuff likke skype, pidgin and xchat. Can anyone help me do a script that'll automate this?  Also it would be nice to make an icon in the tray, and clicking on the icon would show what I currently see in the terminal (useful for seeing what IP I get assigned, and the status eg connecting, disconnecte
[13:28] <Ohmu> d, running) - the same way you can click on 'show details' for installations etc and it shows you the terminal output.  Is this simple in python?  I've managed to do a tray icon appear in Python.
[13:28] <slayton> leohartx, go to #ubuntu-release-party for help
[13:28] <Ohmu> musictoto, np
[13:29] <Newb`s> oh noz! <-- intrepid-ibex (n=mehdi@89.165.21.226) has left #ubuntu
[13:29] <nasser> Cannot join #ubuntu-release-party (You are banned)   who can remove the ban
[13:29] <Newb`s> why intrepid-ibex left :<
[13:29] <LjL> nasser: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[13:29] <osiris_> It is not a pre release if you look at the version information when you have downloaded it
[13:29] <wolfie2x> can someone tell me if the latest flash plugin version is 10.0r12 or is there a newer one?
[13:29] <leohartx> what will happen when i install 8.10 RC then upgrade to final ?
[13:29] <Rhengal> How can I see what other harddrives I have connected in my PC but that ain't mounted? fdisk -l only shows one ubuntu is installed on
[13:29] <joaopinto> leohartx, please ask on #ubuntu+1
[13:29] <Pici> !final | leohartx
[13:30] <Cemud_g_ndiri_> raCMAD
[13:30] <slayton> man I can take it here any more
[13:30] <musictoto> leohartx: you should ask in #ubuntu+1  but if i were you, i'd wait a few hours to install the official release, instead of installing an RC today :)
[13:30] <slayton> too many impatient people looking for 8.10
[13:30] <leohartx> ubottu: thanhks
[13:30] <slayton> I'll come back tomorrow
[13:30] <Slash_Network> oh yehh
[13:31] <Cemud_g_ndiri_> EH KITA BOLEH KENALAN
[13:31] <Pici> !en | Cemud_g_ndiri_
[13:31]  * slayton can't wait for people to realize that intrepid won't be out for a few hours and they should just be patient
[13:31] <leohartx> ofcourse i do
[13:31] <g0tcha> hey guys, i added a new user and when i ssh'd to it i cant ls the home dir, it tells me permission denied, anyone know how to fix that?
[13:31] <Cemud_g_ndiri_> JANCOK
[13:31] <g0tcha> anyone know how to solve this permission problem?
[13:31] <leohartx> im waitting too
[13:31] <imthemp3king> ﻿chadeldridge1, I have.  My DHCP server give the suffix of an old domain that we are migrating away from.  I have setup a network profile that sets my DNS search order and changes my DNS suffix to the correct one.  My resolv.conf file has the correct DNS suffix first in the search list
[13:31] <Cemud_g_ndiri_> NAMA KMU CPA
[13:31] <WhiteDiesel> people are too finny. hehe
[13:31] <WhiteDiesel> funny
[13:31] <bazhang> Cemud_g_ndiri_, use english
[13:31] <Kate_Mins> Hello , I need help please , i restarted my Ubuntu and now its not working , i get error msg on the screen : starting kernel log daemon : "chown: invalid group: `klog:klog` ??
[13:32] <leohartx> but i seat front of my pc for 1 day already
[13:32] <wolfie2x> bump; latest falsh plugin version on firefox please
[13:32] <bazhang> leohartx, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:32] <Pici> leohartx: or in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:32] <bazhang> !flash | wolfie2x
[13:32] <Kruxer> New Ubuntu is Out
[13:32] <Kruxer> happy new ubuntu :P
[13:32] <broonsparrow> HELP! clamtk Virus checker has deleted all my email inboxes/addresses and I accidentally click on the empty quarentine - is there anyway to get these folders back?
[13:33] <unop> g0tcha,  what does this command return?  echo $USER; ls -ld ~/
[13:33] <Pici> !isitout | Kruxer
[13:33] <voland> happy new release!!!
[13:33] <Kruxer> o_O
[13:33] <wolfie2x> bazhang: i already have 10.0r12.. just need to know if it's the latest
[13:33] <bazhang> wolfie2x, installed from where
[13:34] <g0tcha> unop, want me to paste it in private message?
[13:34] <asac_the_2nd> wolfie2x: should latest yes.
[13:34] <unop> g0tcha, if it's one line, you can paste it here - any more than that, use a !pastebin
[13:34] <wolfie2x> bazhang: really can't remember.. followed some website tutorial
[13:34] <g0tcha> !pastebin
[13:34] <itguru> Has anyone here installed Zimbra on thier ubuntu server?
[13:35] <wolfie2x> asac_the_2nd: thx
[13:35] <g0tcha> unop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64612/
[13:35] <alanbshepard77> for months I was making backups of my data by just copying all the files to a folder on an external disk. Big mistake, I now need to burn the data to a DVD but I need to get rid of the dupes. What's a good tool to use. please keep in mind I have 10s of thousands of files involved and using fdupes and needing to approve every delete is not doable.
[13:35] <prince_jammys> g0tcha: directory is not readable
[13:35] <lfs> is there an undo command for rm -rf?
[13:35] <emorris> Is there an equivalent command to unplugging, then reconnecting my printer/scanner?
[13:35] <unop> g0tcha, user test does not have read permissions on  /home/shells/test/
[13:35] <lfs> I need to undo something
[13:35] <prince_jammys> lfs: no
[13:35] <lfs> oh dear
[13:36] <g0tcha> unop, how can i make any user under /home/shells/ read his directory then?
[13:36] <DJones> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[13:36] <dundee> Seems like 8.10 is ready for download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[13:36] <prince_jammys> g0tcha: chmod +r /home/blahblah
[13:36] <unop> g0tcha, chmod +r ~/
[13:36] <DJones> sorry
[13:36] <broonsparrow> is there anyway to undelete stuff?
[13:37] <musictoto> !ibex > dundee DJones
[13:37] <czajkowski> 13:35 < lfs> is there an undo command for rm -rf?    13:35 < prince_jammys> lfs: no
[13:37] <g0tcha> those are two different directories
[13:37] <emorris> broonsparrow: if it is a text file, you might be able to grep it from the hard disk
[13:38] <_JayT_> hello all
[13:38] <_JayT_> anyone out there have an echo audio sound card working in ubuntu?
[13:38] <flakrat> broonsparrow, recycle bin, but if you do an "rm -rf" then that bypasses the bin
[13:38] <dundee> ubottu: ok, thanks
[13:38] <g0tcha> unop, i tried both those chmod commands and i still get permission denied when i try to list the directory
[13:38] <lfs> what command do I use to get information about the hardware in the system?
[13:39] <broonsparrow> it's email files! accidentally deleted from quarantine from virus checker rather than the recyle bin
[13:39] <unop> g0tcha, ~/ is /home/shells/test  to the user test - so if test executes the command it's the same as  chmod +r /home/shells/test
[13:39] <broonsparrow> what does "rm -rf" do?
[13:39] <unop> g0tcha, verify the permissions again
[13:39] <g0tcha> broonsparrow, force delete a file or directory?
[13:39] <unop> broonsparrow, man rm
[13:39] <xnv> How does the release work... do they upload it to most servers before officially releasing it, or do they announce its release even while the mirrors are catching up? (I ask because I want to know if I there's somewhere I can just get 8.10 now rather than waiting for the home page to say it's released.)
[13:39] <emorris> lfs: lspci, lsusb
[13:40] <Narcissus> xnv > update-manager -d
[13:40] <lfs> emorris, it's not installed
[13:40] <broonsparrow> I want to try and undelete stuff
[13:40] <xnv> Narcissus: I don't want the update, I want the ISO
[13:40] <g0tcha> unop, ah i see.. i thought i have to do the command with the root user
[13:40] <prince_jammys> broonsparrow: it's very likely that those files are gone, given your description
[13:40] <unop> g0tcha,  if you used root, then you should have used the full path (i presumed that would have been obvious)
[13:41] <Narcissus> Is it possible to create an ad hoc wireless network from ubuntu - i've googled and couldn't find anything, any suggestions?
[13:41] <lfs> Narcissus, yes it is
[13:41] <broonsparrow> no ideas I can possible try? I can;t tell you how screwed I am if i've lost them!
[13:41] <rexwin> when trying to install imagemagick i get the following. http://rafb.net/p/zv5hd245.html
[13:41] <Narcissus> Do you have a link to a tutoria/faq?
[13:41] <lfs> Narcissus, iwconfig interface mode ad-hoc something like that
[13:41] <extor> During bootup my box pauses for a looooooooong time before starting syslogd and an even longer time when starting MTA. What could be causing this?
[13:41] <g0tcha> unop, thats what i did at first while in root, i used the full path but still got permission denied.. i tried it now from the user itself and it works fine now
[13:41] <rexwin> how do i go about resolving this issue?
[13:41] <Narcissus> Thanks lfs
[13:41] <pronoy> how do i play .rmvb files on mplayer
[13:41] <pronoy> ???
[13:41] <g0tcha> unop, actually i used +r /home/shells while in root insteald of /home/shells/test
[13:42] <g0tcha> thats why
[13:42] <unop> g0tcha, ah
[13:42] <FloodBot1> Webmaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Kkb> Any one teach me which programe is the best for ubuntu remote control by reverse connection?
[13:42] <xukun> ! ubuntu
[13:42] <emorris> broonsparrow: you could try foremost: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost
[13:43] <mick02> Afternoon folks
[13:43] <mick02> I was wondering if anyone can help me with USB support in VirtualBox
[13:43] <g0tcha> unop, one last thing, isnt there a way to make any user under the directory /home/shells/ have permission rights for the home directory without using this chmod command?
[13:43] <mabus> this is an outrage, when is the new release going to be available for download
[13:43] <g0tcha> cuz i have a feeling that my permissions are messed up for this to happen
[13:43] <Pici> !isitout | mabus
[13:43] <unop> g0tcha, how do you create users?
[13:43] <mick02> Basically none of my USB devices are working in the Windows Virtual Machine that I'm running on Uvuntu
[13:44] <chadeldridge1> mick02: which Vm software ?
[13:44] <torch> Are there any disadvantages to upgrading from hardy instead of doing a fresh install of intrepid?
[13:44] <anniyan4u> can anyone tell me how i can auto-mount my media on startup?
[13:44] <Webmaster> x]
[13:44] <chadeldridge1> !fstab | anniyan4u
[13:44] <g0tcha> unop, i use webmin actually because i wanted to learn how to use it
[13:44] <mick02> chadeldridgel VirtualBox v1.6.2
[13:45] <g0tcha> so i added a group called shells with a directory called shells, and i added the user test to the shells group
[13:45] <xcerca> how do i load a kernel module (lirc) so that it shows up in lsmod and it always there... ? i lost it in the update to 8.10
[13:45] <chadeldridge1> mick02: when you click settings on the vm do you get a popup error about usb ?
[13:45] <anniyan4u> ﻿ubottu: thanks a lot! :)
[13:45] <unop> torch, not really, there might be a few residual problems as a result of the upgrade process (but that's easily fixed) - i would say there's a disadvantage to a fresh install i.e. time taken, settings + data lost, etc
[13:46] <torch> unop: Ok, thanks
[13:46] <Rhengal> !Partitions
[13:46] <Tyreus> Hi folks, can anyone tell how to build a "workgroup" with 2 Ubu-Machines?
[13:46] <xcerca> samba or nfs
[13:46] <unop> g0tcha, I should imagine that webmin doesn't correctly set up permissions when it creates the user's home dir
[13:46] <hozano> Hi people. I am installed python-xml package via apt-get and a folder 'oldxml' has been added to site-packages. I don't get import the _xmlplus package contained in the oldxml folder. The python-xml package is deprecated? Which the newer version of the package? I knew that package was repackaged on ubuntu. Is it true?
[13:47] <chadeldridge1> mick02: http://ubuntuos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=1
[13:47] <Tyreus> Samba? Is that some sort of network manager?
[13:47] <unop> g0tcha, does this happen with all new users created?
[13:47] <joaopinto> !samba | Tyreus
[13:47] <g0tcha> unop, so the obvious is to try to add a user from ubuntu itself to see if that works then test with webmin?
[13:47] <g0tcha> unop, i only tried to add this one user actually
[13:47] <N0_Named_Guy> hello
[13:47] <Pandemic> Tyreus: Samba is some kind of brazil dance, that makes you ubi-machines dance with other
[13:48] <xcerca> Tyreus ,  ummm...   you can use it to make a home network,  i'mnot sure what you mean network manager
[13:48] <mick02> chadeldridgel no error message it just sayd no available devices. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out
[13:48] <wolfie2x> question on automatically doing something (unmounting samba) on shutdown.. how do i do this?
[13:48] <N0_Named_Guy> how much time does it take to get the new ubuntu stable?
[13:48] <unop> g0tcha, sure - that's one way to rule out problems with webmin
[13:48] <romildo> Hi.
[13:48] <unop> g0tcha, you could use the  useradd/adduser programs to create users - see if they correctly set permissions up
[13:48] <xcerca> you can also install nfs on both machines and if theys on the same network it will work
[13:48] <N0_Named_Guy> I am having strange problems with the new ubuntu
[13:49] <wolfie2x> bump; can I use rc.local
[13:49] <wolfie2x> ?
[13:49] <gyven> not for running scripts on shutdown, only login
[13:49] <N0_Named_Guy> I've made the sudo update-manager -d thing and I can't do updates, and get kernel panics often
[13:49] <anniyan4u> WHA! my terminal is hanging! :O
[13:49] <unop> wolfie2x, you can create an initscript and enable it for runlevel 6
[13:49] <romildo> [newbie] I want to develop C applications in my recent installed Ubuntu box, but the include files are missing (stdio.h, for instance). Which package does provide them?
[13:50] <joaopinto> romgo, build-essential
[13:50] <joaopinto> ops, was romildo
[13:50] <xcerca> romildo , i use a IDE called Code::Blocks , i like it
[13:50] <wolfie2x> romildo: can i just have anyname for it? what the number i put in front?
[13:50] <xcerca> i do cpp though but i think you can do c
[13:51] <wolfie2x> unop:  can i just have anyname for it? what the number i put in front?
[13:51] <ubuntu_> !list
[13:51] <ubuntu_> ciao
[13:51] <bazhang> !it | ubuntu_
[13:51] <opticalmouse> when 8.10 will release?
[13:52] <bazhang> !isitout | opticalmouse
[13:52] <unop> wolfie2x, anyname will do .. the number (actually letter S and number) is crucial but more importantly, there must be a symlink to the script in /etc/rc6.d/
[13:52] <anniyan4u> why does my terminal keep hanging every time i open it?
[13:52] <unop> wolfie2x, but don't go an create the symlink manually - use  update-rc.d to do that for you
[13:52] <janaus1> hi, is intrepid and lvm on software raid booting borked?
[13:53] <g0tcha> unop, im gonna test now and see
[13:53] <CITguy08> Can somebody tell me how I can check which gtk engines are installed?
[13:53] <joaopinto> !intrepid > janaus1
[13:53] <wolfie2x> unop: why not sym link manually? what's the diff?
[13:53] <TommyBJ> CITguy08: dpkg-query -l | grep gtk
[13:53] <unop> CITguy08,  dpkg -l | grep "gtk.*engines"
[13:53] <robykem> lù
[13:54] <neunon> Woohoo, Intrepid will be the first Linux distribution to have ath9k support in the kernel. :)
[13:54] <dino``> i dont see the ubuntu countdown on the website how many days until its out?
[13:54] <Pici> !isitout | dino``
[13:54] <joaopinto> dino``, read the topic please
[13:54] <CITguy08> thanks
[13:54] <dino``> my bad
[13:54] <unop> wolfie2x,  well for one, it's easier to use the tools to do the job as they do error checking (for syntax, etc) and secondly, they remember ordering, so if you disabled the service/script, you could just enable it later and it should have the same S number.
[13:55] <kca> intrepid is out :)
[13:55] <Tm_T> kca: it's not
[13:55] <romildo> joaopinto, thanks for the info.
[13:55] <kca> Tm_T, in the official mirror it's out
[13:55] <Tm_T> kca: no it's not
[13:55] <Tm_T> kca: and you can stop now
[13:55] <kca> can I link it?
[13:55] <Pici> kca: Its not out until the announcement is made.
[13:55] <Tm_T> no
[13:55] <g0tcha> unop, adding a new user from webmin works fine now, i guess it was a problem with user 'test'.. but the difference is the new user cant see the server name when ssh'd to it
[13:56] <romolo> # ubuntu-it
[13:56] <kca> there is the md5sum too!
[13:56] <g0tcha> it only sees the bash $ .. not user@servername:~$
[13:56] <unop> wolfie2x, by the way - samba filesystems are dismounted on shutdown - so i don't see why you have to additionally create a script to do that.
[13:56] <wolfie2x> unop: thx. will try it. have to do this since intrpid doesn't unmount samba for me.. ;(
[13:56] <Myrtti> kca: you have no way of knowing if it really is the offical image until the official announcement is made
[13:57] <unop> g0tcha,  does the new user have a ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc  file ?
[13:57] <gyven> kca, "a" not "the" md5sum, it's not out until they announce it.
[13:57] <kca> Myrtti, why that should not be official? it's on the official site
[13:57] <troal01> Has anyone experience some GUI glitches (windows not resizing properly, window top not showing up properly) in 8.10 64 bit?
[13:57] <Pici> !isitout | kca
[13:57] <Neeeewbee> Oh.. shoot.. so it hasn't been officially released yet?
[13:58] <Neeeewbee> 8.10?
[13:58] <Myrtti> kca: because they might be rsyncing fixes to it as we speak
[13:58] <_endo602> is 8.10 coming out today?
[13:58] <Pici> Neeeewbee: no
[13:58] <Myrtti> Neeeewbee: no
[13:58] <Pici> !isitout | _endo602
[13:58] <kca> Pici, they banned me because I said it's out
[13:58] <Myrtti> _endo602: yes
[13:58] <bazhang> kca, please stop
[13:58] <wolfie2x> troal01: !intrepid
[13:58] <Pici> kca: And you're gearing up for a banning here, so stop.
[13:58] <Myrtti> kca: it's not.
[13:58] <kca> bazhang, ok
[13:58] <wolfie2x> !intrepid
[13:58] <ktwo> hi i installed Xfce and KDE on ubuntu and now instead of the "ubuntu" bootscreen i get "kubuntu" anyone knows how to revert that?
[13:58] <max_> italian chenel plees
[13:58] <Pici> !it | max_
[13:58] <bazhang> max_, /j #ubuntu-it
[13:59] <g0tcha> unop, that user doesnt have access to list the hidden folders (folders starting with '.' )
[13:59] <unop> g0tcha, what do you mean exactly?
[13:59] <unop> ktwo, you need to change the session at the logon screen
[13:59] <g0tcha> unop, all i get when i list the directory is a folder called Examples
[13:59] <joaopinto> g0tcha, to list hidden folders, you need to press CTRL-H on nautilus
[14:00] <wolfie2x> unop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/211631
[14:00] <g0tcha> joaopinto, im using putty actually to ssh to it
[14:00] <joaopinto> g0tcha, ah. did you ls -l ?
[14:00] <unop> g0tcha,  ls -la ~/
[14:00] <joaopinto> i mean, ls -l .*
[14:01] <ksoviero> can you ask linux networking questions here?
[14:01] <g0tcha> ok, i see it now.. let me scroll up to see what files you asked for
[14:01] <Pici> ksoviero: Ubuntu networking questions.... General Linux stuff should be directed to ##linux
[14:01] <unop> ksoviero, as long as they revolve around ubuntu, sure -- otherwise ##linux or #networking
[14:01] <ksoviero> well, they do invole ubuntu
[14:01] <unop> ksoviero, should be fine then
[14:02] <g0tcha> unop, the .bashsrc exists, but the .bash_profile doesnt
[14:02] <unop> g0tcha, ok, how did you create the new user again?  webmin?
[14:02] <unop> !webmin
[14:02] <ksoviero> i want to setup an office with 5-10 ubuntu desktops, and a few servers for file, and print sharing.  how hard is that under linux/ubuntu
[14:02] <g0tcha> oh
[14:02] <romildo> [newbie] Which package provides the latest JRE from Sun?
[14:02] <SvZ> กู๊ดไนท์
[14:02] <unop> g0tcha, it might be worth noting that webmin is seriously limited and quite buggy
[14:02] <ziroday> ksoviero: reasonably easy
[14:03] <SvZ> tliff, บูเอนาสโน๊เชส (อิตาเลี่ยน)
[14:03] <SvZ> Sjaki, บูเอนาสโน๊เชส (อิตาเลี่ยน)
[14:03] <g0tcha> unop, yeah, i can see that
[14:03] <tliff> join #ubuntu-release-party
[14:03] <tliff> sorry
[14:03] <jcookeman> they booted me from release-party for posting the official torrent link
[14:03] <jcookeman> wankers
[14:03] <g0tcha> unop, i wanted to use webmin instead of remot-control to that ubuntu because its running on an old slow compture
[14:03] <vrangs> Can anyone help or direct me to instructions about setting up multiple graphics cards in Ubuntu Hardy? (One is integrated intel, the other Geforce DVI+VGA) I want 3 monitors
[14:03] <unop> !language | jcookeman
[14:03] <bazhang> !offtopic | jcookeman
[14:04] <pixelated> heh i got banned from the release party and didnt even say it was out or give a link :'D
[14:04] <ksoviero> does samba work under linux, or is there a better open source alt. for file sharing
[14:04] <g0tcha> if i install vnc on ubuntu, i should b able to connect to it using a windows vnc client, right?
[14:04] <jcookeman> anyways, check the official torrent page
[14:04] <jcookeman> it's there
[14:04] <unop> g0tcha, why not use ssh instead? i'm sure it's lighter on resources than webmin is
[14:04] <aapzak> ksoviero: samba is working great
[14:04] <musictoto> g0tcha: yes
[14:04] <ziroday> ksoviero: if its only linux machines you may want to use NFS which can be faster
[14:04] <aapzak> ksoviero: and it is one of the fastest transport methods in your networl
[14:04] <ksoviero> aapzak: but is there a better open source alt.
[14:05] <musictoto> g0tcha: but you don't have to install vnc on ubuntu, it's already installed by default
[14:05] <aapzak> ksoviero: not that I know of, samba is very good
[14:05] <ksoviero> oh, ok
[14:05] <musictoto> g0tcha: you just have to set it up
[14:05] <unop> aapzak, very good is subjective
[14:05] <buddy7549> hey peops what time is 8.10 actually gonna be released and downloadable today?
[14:05] <Neeeewbee> Any good tuts on getting my " Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device" configured correctly in Xorg?
[14:05] <ziroday> !isitout | buddy7549
[14:05] <aapzak> unop: you're right
[14:06] <buddy7549> thanks
[14:06] <aapzak> unop: ksoviero : let me state that I like smb/cifs very much and for me its working great
[14:06] <vrangs> Can anyone help or direct me to instructions about setting up multiple graphics cards in Ubuntu Hardy? (One is integrated intel, the other Geforce DVI+VGA) I want 3 monitors
[14:06] <soulc> how can I edit/remove bad spelling added to dictionary by a badf click
[14:07] <g0tcha> musictoto, how can i set it up? i dont see it in any menu
[14:07] <musictoto> g0tcha: wait a sec, i'll be with you in a minute
[14:07] <g0tcha> unop, i do use ssh, but sometimes it gets hard with all the commands so webmin makes it a bit easier with webinterface
[14:07] <g0tcha> musictoto, sure, tyt
[14:07] <Neeeewbee> does anyone know what command to use to find out what is contained in a given package? I see "xserver-xorg-video-intel" want's to dl.
[14:08] <graingert> update-manager contains update to ibex!
[14:08] <Pici> Neeeewbee: you can install apt-file and then after doing 'apt-file update', you can do 'apt-file show packagename'
[14:08] <ziroday> Neeeewbee: what do you mean by containted, whats in the actual package or a description of what it does?
[14:08] <Kaxsp> is it yet?
[14:08] <unop> g0tcha, sure, but there's a tradeoff in flexibility vs ease of use .. also, if your client can handle X, you can launch graphical applications on the client over ssh.
[14:08] <Neeeewbee> Thanks Pici
[14:09] <Neeeewbee> ziroday: I just thought I could get a little more info than just the package name itself
[14:09] <leohartx> can integrated G31 intel chipset run PS2 emulator ?
[14:10] <osubuckey> hmm, 8.10 not out yet?
[14:10] <osubuckey> ohhh yes
[14:10] <osubuckey> awesome what great timing
[14:10] <g0tcha> unop, hmm i dont think that Putty supports that.. do you know any other ssh clients that does support that?
[14:10] <g0tcha> starting X from ssh.. id love to do that
[14:10] <Neeeewbee> so what command do we use to upgrade?
[14:11] <unop> g0tcha, you'd need something like cygwin (with X) or andlinux/colinux installed
[14:12] <zamba> what's the command to list all directories as a tree?
[14:12] <leohartx> im downloading 8.10 size 698.82
[14:12] <msaraujo> when 8.10 will be released?
[14:12] <macbeth4077> tree
[14:12] <zamba> kind of like 'pstree'
[14:12] <unop> zamba,  find
[14:12] <smakked_> ive almost got it
[14:12] <smakked_> 50 meg to go
[14:12] <g0tcha> unop, installed on ubuntu or on the machine im connecting from?
[14:12] <cumulus007> it's really released now
[14:12] <leohartx> im downloading 8.10 size 698.82mb
[14:12] <acrousey> i think it's out
[14:12] <_paneb> is there a way to fetch pages using wget that are connected within a frame?
[14:12] <msaraujo> leohartx? where?
[14:12] <cumulus007> it's out a long time
[14:12] <leohartx> it's was published on nov 30
[14:12] <msaraujo> well
[14:12] <cumulus007> http://nl3.releases.ubuntu.com/nl3
[14:12] <msaraujo> the new version, I mean
[14:12] <prince_jammys> !info tree | zamba
[14:12] <voland> is there any dvd images?
[14:12] <wolfie2x> ubuntu+1 is closed
[14:12] <leohartx> is it final ?
[14:13] <cumulus007> yes it is
[14:13] <msaraujo> thanks
[14:13] <joaopinto> leohartx, yes
[14:13] <wolfie2x> this is now the latest ubuntu channel
[14:13] <unop> g0tcha, if your client is windows - it will need cygwin or andlinux , most linux and mac OS clients should handle it fine
[14:13] <Rhengal> so, what would be that command for updating from 8.04 to 8.1 from the commandline, (ssh) or at least start the download for when I get home?
[14:13] <bertalan_> hy: Did anyone try Red Alert 3 on Ubuntu 8.04 with 1.1.7 wine? Fot me it works perfectly, only the cursor is missing ( In an RTS, this is quite a bad thing :D )
[14:13] <msaraujo> hum, the transfer rate is not that good
[14:13] <msaraujo> :@
[14:13] <unop> !upgrade > Rhengal
[14:13] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[14:14] <leohartx> http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/?C=M;O=A
[14:14] <gaelfx> so we can finally talk about intrepid in here? woohoo!
[14:14] <leohartx> scroll down and click on last modified
[14:14] <smakked_> just about to install it
[14:14] <smakked_> see how it goes
[14:14] <smakked_> :D
[14:14] <flakrat> where can I get an MD5SUM or other checksum for the ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso file?
[14:15] <wolfie2x> no more "this is not the place, goto ubuntu+1.." ;)
[14:15] <td123> where is the download link for 8.10?!?!!?!??!?!
[14:15] <msaraujo> leohartx: thank you
[14:15] <leohartx> joaopinto: did you test i yet ?
[14:15] <gaelfx> when I try to connect my bluetooth mouse, it always says pairing failed, can someone help me figure out what is wrong?
[14:15] <joaopinto> leohartx, I am using it for 1 week
[14:15] <td123> does anyone know where the download link is at?
[14:16] <Ohmu_> There seems to be a problem with GNOME-PPP.  Whatever I put in the init strings box, it erases it.  ideas?
[14:16] <dino``> http://hobbsee.com/tmp/torrents/ this is the link for it in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:16] <msaraujo> how to recompile a package that is already installed via apt-get ?
[14:16] <nachete> saludos a todos/as
[14:16] <msaraujo> like, I have installed ffmpeg and have to enable mp3 audicodec (mp3lame)
[14:16] <leohartx> msaraujo: you're going to update it to final 8.10 instead of clean install ?
[14:16] <Tundrayeti312> !es | nachete
[14:16] <edelholz> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/8.10/
[14:17] <tux> what does the topic say ubuntu intrepid is out and then links to 8:04 ?
[14:17] <msaraujo> leohartx: no, I mean for an old install (I will not update that one)
[14:17] <nachete> gracias
[14:17] <bd_> flakrat: sha1sum: 5fbafed3622da4f79758cfa9d24208bcbe62c46d  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[14:17] <flakrat> bd_, thanks
[14:17] <joaopinto> edelholz, because the site is not updated yet
[14:18] <bahadunn> is it safe to discuss intrepid in here now that it is out?
[14:18] <gaelfx> yeah
[14:18] <leohartx> joaopinto: hope you right
[14:18] <rohan> congratulations on release to everyone involved!!
[14:18] <vrangs> exit
[14:18] <vrangs> exit
[14:19] <bahadunn> the website is not updated yet
[14:19] <mama21mama> and can be downloaded ubuntu?
[14:19] <bahadunn> guess its only been 10 minutes though so maybe patience is key
[14:19] <td123> does anyone know where I can download ubuntu 8.10
[14:19] <RedShift> td123: you can download it from the internet
[14:19] <demontager> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:19] <Zendot> td123, just press the link to download the release candidate ;)
[14:19] <terrestre> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[14:19] <mama21mama> where?
[14:20] <mama21mama> I say the final version
[14:20] <leohartx> can a RC update to final ?
[14:20] <kca> however the announcement is already there... and since much time https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-October/000116.html
[14:20] <rohan> "Ubuntu 8.10 Server Edition" never stands still. does it portray instability and crashy nature, or what?!
[14:20] <bahadunn> when will the upgrade option appear in my upgrade manager?
[14:20] <gaelfx> yes, sudo apt-get update
[14:20] <mib_iizhxm> its relesaed??????
[14:21] <bazhang> mib_iizhxm, yes
[14:21] <LjL> !isitout | mib_iizhxm
[14:21] <mib_iizhxm> where where
[14:21] <cumulus007> IT IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:21] <rmn> i'm running samba on 8.04LTS.  i try to share the home directories with [homes] - but in addition to of smb://server/username i get smb://server/homes - never seen that before.  what to do?
[14:21] <jadams_> using gnome-do, if I super-space and type desktop, it opens up a nautilus window of my home directory...
[14:21] <cumulus007> on the website
[14:21] <tux> love those new t-shirts :P
[14:21] <mib_iizhxm> thanks
[14:21] <kca> mib_iizhxm, everybody says no
[14:21] <mayeco> it's out
[14:21] <Rubin> check the mirrors people
[14:21] <mib_iizhxm> the websites dont show
[14:21] <Rubin> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors
[14:22] <rohan> ubuntu.com page taking a hit already
[14:22] <mib_iizhxm> oh yea changed
[14:22] <bahadunn> good thing I got my private mirror of intrepid
[14:22] <bahadunn> :-P
[14:22] <Bit_Breaker> bahadunn: what do u mean private mirror?
[14:23] <Delay6782> if he told you it wouldn't be private
[14:23] <rexwin> ubuntu is tough to handle
[14:23] <mama21mama> 	where you have downloaded the ISO?
[14:23] <kca> from the official site
[14:23] <leohartx> wow wow
[14:23] <leohartx> it's out
[14:23] <bahadunn> Bit_Breaker: I have been mirroring intrepid on my home network for about a week now figuring when it came out things would be slow and such
[14:23] <td123> 6 more minutes till I have it!!!!
[14:23] <leohartx> ubuntu.com changed
[14:23] <mib_iizhxm> whats amazingly different in this release ?
[14:23] <Bit_Breaker> yes the site just kicked it
[14:23] <i-k-a> alooow.
[14:23] <Bit_Breaker> its here!!
[14:23] <Delay6782> great timing
[14:23]  * Eruaran downloading 8.10 via torrents now
[14:24] <Bit_Breaker> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:24] <mama21mama> rc?
[14:24] <bahadunn> wow the site is much slower now
[14:24] <ArtVandalae> mib_iizhxm, GIMP 2.6, kernel 2.6.27 (lots of webcams + wireless cards), GNOME 2.24 (I think). Those are the big changes
[14:24]  * Eruaran will continue to seed indefinately =D
[14:24] <rmn> mib_iizhxm, support for 3g phones, better wireless. other than that small general improvements
[14:24] <mib_iizhxm> aaah
[14:24] <Bit_Breaker> b/c of us
[14:24] <mib_iizhxm> i reallly needed better wireless
[14:24] <Delay6782> Is updating just as reliable as starting fresh?
[14:24]  * mib_iizhxm downloads
[14:24] <Bit_Breaker> same here.
[14:24] <rmn> Delay6782, generally not.  can't say anything specific about this update, though
[14:25] <graingert> mib_iizhxm: nothing; it's just more betterer
[14:25] <bahadunn> Delay6782: should be
[14:25] <tux> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=292 sweet
[14:25] <Bit_Breaker> do i just sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:25] <bahadunn> Delay6782: I am upgrading now so we will see
[14:25] <graingert> mib_iizhxm: and a drak theme
[14:25] <thunar1> What's up with Ubuntu 8.10?
[14:25] <ArtVandalae> Bit_Breaker, no
[14:25] <mib_iizhxm> o a new theme
[14:25] <graingert> Bit_Breaker: noooo don't use the cli on this one!!
[14:25]  * calc already has all 10 ubuntu/kubuntu isos downloaded :)
[14:25] <osubuck> doing my part and seeding 8.10 :D
[14:25] <leohartx> i'm right :))
[14:25] <td123> calc: ummm great waste of bandwidth
[14:25] <ArtVandalae> osubuck, gw, I wish more people would seed
[14:25] <babo> is it possible to fit an image into a word/pdf document that someone can click on to enlarge ?
[14:26] <leohartx> 8.10 is 698.82mb
[14:26] <var1> Ubuntu!
[14:26] <mrbig4545> bonjour
[14:26] <gangsterlicious> 8.10?
[14:26] <KDesk> Please use torrent!!
[14:26] <musictoto> !fr >mrbig4545
[14:26] <lfs> I think someones hacking into my ubuntu. What commands can I use to see what's going on?
[14:26] <mrbig4545> i want to setup a bridge, with some tap devices and eth0
[14:26] <leohartx> may be all of us were tricked
[14:26] <osubuck> well im downloading too haha, have yet to receive it, but i plan to seed well after its downloaded
[14:26] <mrbig4545> which i can do
[14:26] <joaopinto> lfs, what makes you think that ?
[14:26] <var1> oh there is 1623 people in this room!
[14:26] <leohartx> 8.10 came out some hours ago
[14:26] <mrbig4545> i need to know how to set eth0 to be up, but with no address
[14:26] <calc> td123: well i was doing iso.qa tests on all of them over the past few weeks
[14:27] <calc> td123: rsync is good :)
[14:27] <td123> lol my mirror is going crazy... its ul speed goes from 999kb to 400 to 300 to 800 lol
[14:27] <mrbig4545> and btw ubottu im not french!
[14:27] <flakrat> lsf, make sure you have a firewall installed, ubuntu defaults to none
[14:27] <lfs> joaopinto, there are shell scripts that keep appearing
[14:27] <WhiteDiesel> how can i make amarok my defult player for music files?
[14:27] <Thylacine> so...i've seen that ubuntu 8.10 is on the mirrors
[14:27] <darksifer> hi everyone
[14:27] <joaopinto> lfs, at which location, and what do they contain ?
[14:27] <mama21mama> and you can download the final 8.10 in ISO?. where?
[14:27] <calc> td123: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ (if you weren't aware of the qa testing page)
[14:27] <bahadunn> you guys be nice and wait for my upgrade to finish before you all start okay?
[14:27] <darksifer> please i need your advice on this http://pastebin.com/m7d6280f9
[14:27] <joaopinto> mama21mama, www.ubuntu.com
[14:28] <tux> good torrent link here for desktop http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:28] <Eruaran> torrents are going very nicely
[14:28] <flakrat> lsf, install firestarter for a firewall
[14:28] <osubuck> mama21mama, here-> http://tinyurl.com/5ptja5
[14:28] <pvandewyngaerde> if i make a bootable usb drive,  my selected keyboard layout is not applied, and i get  "could not find intl BE "
[14:28] <mrbig4545> so anyone know how to make eth0 have no ip address?
[14:28] <jons__> hey has anyone ever come across the resolv.conf getting modified on an xlock? I go to lock my screen and i reutrn and my search path is replaced with another search path, of one hostname which is the network i am on; i have it staticly configured for IP it's not dhcp so i am not sure how or why this is happening on an xlock, but it happens when xlock is called as oppose when i log back in, so the timestamp suggests
[14:28] <pvandewyngaerde> mrbig4545 ifdown eth0
[14:28] <Eruaran> Intrepid is coming down at about 180kbps at the moment
[14:28] <joaopinto> mrbig4545, don't configure it on network interfaces ?
[14:28] <flakrat> mrbig4545, it can't be 'up' without an address
[14:29] <mrbig4545> it can be up without an address
[14:29] <mrbig4545> its a port in a bridge
[14:29] <mrbig4545> the bridge gets the ip address
[14:29] <Ciorapel> Are there any working mirrors ?
[14:29] <flakrat> mrbig4545, ah, I follow now
[14:29] <Eruaran> Ciorapel: use torrents
[14:29] <piasdom> most of the link don't have 8.10
[14:29] <mrbig4545> flakrat: cool :)
[14:29] <Justcameron> Ciorapel: try torrents - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/intrepid/
[14:29] <Ciorapel> thanx
[14:29] <Bit_Breaker> C_kode: i need a better PC
[14:29] <Thylacine> totally silent
[14:29] <digin4> YAY RELEASED :D
[14:29] <Thylacine> :)
[14:29] <td123> during my download I watched my mirror upload from 1000kbps to 200kbps :D
[14:29] <mrbig4545> the problem i have is that i have the bridge, it gets its ip from dhcp
[14:29] <piasdom> i tried most of the link in US
[14:29] <Ciorapel> Forbidden
[14:30] <Ciorapel> You don't have permission to access /simple/intrepid/desktop/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso on this server.
[14:30] <Ciorapel> on the torrent
[14:30] <mrbig4545> but eth0 also picks up the same address, so i have to mess about to remove the address
[14:30] <G__81> anyone running 8.10 final ? and how is it?
[14:30] <Justcameron> Ciorapel: you want .iso.torrent
[14:30] <leohartx> ciorapel: http://mirrors.cs.wmich.edu/ubuntu-releases/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[14:30] <leohartx> try it
[14:30] <Ohmu_> All, I have a problem with gnome-ppp.  I'm going to hope it's a python script or something easily debuggable.  'gnome-ppp' from commandline works.  But How to I find where the executable resides?
[14:30] <osubuck> bet that mirror is quite slow now leohartx
[14:30] <ircbin> Are the DVD images available?
[14:30] <gregL_> I am getting 450 k down on http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com
[14:31] <stimpie> Ohmu_, use 'which'
[14:31] <Ciorapel> Is indeed slow : The operation timed out when attempting to contact mirrors.cs.wmich.edu.
[14:31] <graingert> ircbin: dvd's just contain a repo mirror
[14:31] <gds_lumut> hhhai
[14:31] <WhiteDiesel> can i set amarok to be the default music file player?
[14:31] <Ciorapel> gregL_ thanx. I'm getting 1.2 mb/s from that !
[14:32] <kneeki> Congratulations Ubuntu team! :D
[14:32] <sas171> hi is it possible to install the new ubuntu from a usb stick?
[14:32] <ircbin> graingert, which repo?
[14:32] <Ciorapel> So 1.2 mb/s from : http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ !
[14:32] <leohartx> mine is 140KB/s
[14:32] <bahadunn> too bad we dont have a mirror at the office
[14:32] <Ciorapel> 1.6 mb/s :D
[14:32] <bahadunn> oh well
[14:32] <gregL_> Ciorapel: Cool!
[14:32] <DJones> !install > sas171
[14:32] <graingert> ircbin: the official ones
[14:32] <leohartx> oop
[14:32] <bahadunn> my upgrade is 500k
[14:32] <bahadunn> not fast enough
[14:32] <Pici> !ot
[14:32] <piksi-> would you consider ubuntu eee as the recommended distro for asus eee?
[14:32] <Inphoar> 51mins left to download 8.10. Does anyone know if you can download the USB one online?
[14:33] <bingungaja> is it true that ubuntu 8.10 not supported vga nvidia geforcer 8600m yet ? anyone please confirm ?
[14:33] <sas171> DJones, thank you.
[14:33] <piksi-> or are there other netbook derivatives of ubuntu compatible with eee that are recommended?
[14:33] <Ciorapel> 6 minutes remaining for download :x
[14:33] <kneeki> Ciorapel: 40 minutes for me =(
[14:33] <sas171> Congratulations  to the Ubuntu team!
[14:33] <Ohmu_> hehe everyone's so excited tonight!
[14:33] <osubuck> 200+KB/s for me :)
[14:34] <geronimaldo> umm what have the ubuntu team done?
[14:34] <Inphoar> Oh yeah, congrats and thanks Ubuntu masters. :p
[14:34] <ircbin> ok, I find it... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[14:34] <osubuck> geronimaldo, released a fantastic new version of their OS
[14:34] <WhiteDiesel> how do i set the default media player?
[14:34] <Tundrayeti312> How do i stop 'services' like bluetooth and evolution from starting... i checked the startup manager and they weren't listed... can i just uninstall the packages?
[14:34] <joaopinto> bingungaja, please check the release notes, there maybe some mention to nvidia cards
[14:34] <LjjjL> ubuntu-release-party
[14:35] <graingert> Tundrayeti312: you need a bum
[14:35] <geronimaldo> osubuck: ahh intrepid is out?
[14:35] <osubuck> yes
[14:35] <graingert> !info bum | Tundrayeti312
[14:35] <bingungaja> joaopinto : wher's the release notes ?
[14:35] <osubuck> geronimaldo, http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:35] <Thylacine> it will pour with reviews
[14:35] <Thylacine> :)
[14:35] <Tundrayeti312> graingert: ah ok ty
[14:35] <geronimaldo> sweet; many thanks and congrats to the ubuntu folks
[14:35] <andycas> when can we dist-upgrade?
[14:35] <WhiteDiesel> anyone?
[14:35] <joaopinto> bingungaja, www.ubuntu.com, the release notes describes know issues with the current release
[14:35] <bingungaja> ok
[14:35] <graingert> andycas: a few hours ago
[14:35] <WhiteDiesel> how i set the default media player?
[14:36] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: what do you want it set to?
[14:36] <andycas> i get nothing
[14:36] <G__81> how is 8.10
[14:36] <andycas> ill try US servers
[14:36] <G__81> any idea ?
[14:36] <geronimaldo> osubuck: cheers, I think i'll run the upgrade when I get home :)
[14:36] <graingert> andycas: use update-manager
[14:36] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  i would like to set amarok to be the default music player
[14:36] <G__81> the final one
[14:36] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: hmmmmmm
[14:36] <osubuck> sounds good ;)
[14:36] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: in KDE?
[14:36] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  at present time it's Mplayer
[14:36] <andycas> graingert: update manager isnt any better
[14:36] <G__81> what the bug which says 8.10 is slow there was a thread
[14:36] <Inphoar> Also, does anyone know if Wubi 8.10 will support my Samsung Q1 straight away? I don't have a USB keyboard.
[14:36] <ce_ubuntu> where is changelog for 8.10 ?
[14:37] <Ciorapel> What is better ? Upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 or FRESH INSTALL ?
[14:37] <leohartx> uhm, what version of openoffice available in 8.10 ?
[14:37] <geronimaldo> what shiny new features does this come with... cos to be honest I think hardy is awesome
[14:37] <graingert> andycas: works for everyone else
[14:37] <calc> leohartx: 2.4.1
[14:37] <thiebaude> ciorapel:fresh install
[14:37] <graingert> geronimaldo: no new features just more stable
[14:37] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  i don't think i have kde
[14:37] <graingert> geronimaldo: also new them
[14:37] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  but then again i'm not sure
[14:37] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: is it all shiney or all browny
[14:37] <wolfie2x> geronimaldo: honestly nothing exciting for me, just new bugs
[14:37] <Ciorapel> speed down to 1 mb/s :|
[14:38] <Inphoar> "Also, does anyone know if Wubi 8.10 will support my Samsung Q1 straight away? I don't have a USB keyboard." Anyone?
[14:38] <leohartx> where is 3.0 ?
[14:38] <calc> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810  <- 8.10 release notes
[14:38] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: shiny blue or browny orange?
[14:38] <calc> leohartx: in a ppa if you want to test it
[14:38] <graingert> leohartx: makes no sence your question
[14:38] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  mostly orange
[14:38] <Tom_Davis> ok between sunday and today they borked my sound on ibex
[14:38] <tux> any word on netbook remix?
[14:38] <calc> leohartx: it will be in jaunty in a few weeks (maybe around early dec)
[14:38] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: what is in each corner
[14:38] <Ohmu_> anyone familiar with gnome-ppp please msg me
[14:39] <geronimaldo> wolfie2x: sometimes progress is new bugs lol
[14:39] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  amarok is all blue
[14:39] <Inphoar> 13m
[14:39] <Tundrayeti312> Why is it tellin gme that 'Package bum has no installation candidate'?
[14:39] <canhnm> Help me with screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10 64 bit
[14:39] <PhoenixP3K> So if I want to upgrade to 8.10 with a CD I need to download the alternate version?
[14:39] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: It is a kde app
[14:39] <leohartx> i'm back after 2 year :))
[14:39] <WoAC> if i have rc version ..do i need to upgrade or something ?
[14:39] <g0tcha> isnt there a way to add a port range in Firestarter firewall?
[14:39] <andycas> graingert: you = everyone else? I think it just isnt in my sources server yet
[14:39] <wers> seeed plz
[14:39] <Napster> can i burn a cd image to a mini-dvd disc ?
[14:39] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  good to know.  can i set it as default?
[14:39] <graingert> andycas: no on release party most people had no trouble
[14:39] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: yes
[14:40] <ssam> Napster, should work if there is space. i burn to dvd+rw sometimes
[14:40] <maskun> fddhpon
[14:40] <WoAC> if i have rc version ..do i need to upgrade or something ?
[14:40] <Pici> !final | WoAC
[14:40] <Anamn3sis> Can anyone help me setup encrypted partitions via dm-crypt/luks with the 8.10 text installer?
[14:40] <canhnm> I updated ubuntu from 7.04 to 8.10 and after that my screen resolution only 800x600, anyone help me
[14:40] <Napster> ssam thanks ill give it a try :)
[14:40] <definitely> What about package nvidia-xconfig ?
[14:40] <Tom_Davis> graingert: on rc1 on sunday my ess sound card worked fine, I did an install on the same machine, same disk, now its fail
[14:40] <Tom_Davis> help?
[14:40] <wolfie2x> geronimaldo: there's not even firefox 3.1 or openoffice 3.0 i think
[14:40] <canhnm> my graphic card is Ati HD 3200
[14:41] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: in prefered applications
[14:41] <wolfie2x> geronimaldo: i had to add them manually
[14:41] <G__81> does ubuntu 8.10 have any extra features apart from gnome 2.24 ?
[14:41] <calc> leohartx: OOo 3.0 released too late to stabilize in time for 8.10 so it will go into 9.04
[14:41] <Tom_Davis> it does kde4 now
[14:41] <graingert> G__81: pa works well?
[14:41] <graingert> G__81: flash10
[14:42] <canhnm> Problem with Ati HD 3200 graphic , anyone help me please
[14:42] <G__81> whats pa ?
[14:42] <graingert> G__81: windowless mode is beautiful
[14:42] <graingert> G__81: pulse-a
[14:42] <G__81> h
[14:42] <G__81> oh
[14:42] <FLeiXiuS> How do i list my auido devices.. /dev/*
[14:42] <bingungaja> The 71 and 96 series of proprietary nVidia drivers, as provided by the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx packages in Ubuntu 8.04, are not compatible with the X.Org included in Ubuntu 8.10. Users with the nVidia TNT, TNT2, TNT Ultra, GeForce, GeForce2, GeForce3, and GeForce4 chipsets are affected and will be transitioned on upgrade to the free nv driver instead. This driver does not support 3D acceleration ----- is this mean, my notebook geforce
[14:42] <bingungaja> 8600 not supported yet ??? :((((
[14:42] <wolfie2x> graingert: what's the windowless mode?
[14:42] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  do i just type amarok in Command:
[14:42] <x1250> I want my #ubuntu+1 back :/
[14:42] <Ciorapel> I want to announce you : DO NOT UPGRADE TO 8.10 if you have ATI Radeon x1250
[14:42] <Ciorapel> :)
[14:43] <graingert> wolfie2x: transparent background
[14:43] <Zendot> Ciorapel, or any other graphics card
[14:43] <Tom_Davis> ati x200 works well
[14:43] <graingert> wolfie2x: and slower rendering
[14:43] <mgolisch> bingungaja: no, it should work fine
[14:43] <joaopinto> bingungaja, if you card is one of the affected modules, it will work without 3d support
[14:43] <zx> hello good night
[14:43] <canhnm> But my screen resolution is still 800x600
[14:43] <joaopinto> erm, models
[14:43] <canhnm> Ati HD 3200
[14:43] <mgolisch> bingungaja: 8600 should be supported by glx and glx-new i think
[14:43] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: possibly, add amarok icon to the desktop
[14:44] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: then read what it says
[14:44] <td123> mmm, the smell of a freshly burned 8.10 desktop cd :D
[14:44] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: in the what command is run box
[14:44] <bingungaja> mgolisch : really ? i really hope, can't live without 3D :P
[14:44] <leohartx> do anyone here have md5 hash of ubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:44] <q0r3> hey all.  last time i tried the 64-bit version, i had several issues with flash, java, etc.  i was wondering if these are still around with 8.10
[14:44] <bingungaja> joaopinto : :(
[14:44] <_paneb> is there a way to get wget to download the contents of an iframe?
[14:44] <wolfie2x> graingert: transparent nautilus? how do i enable it?
[14:44] <leohartx> td123: can you send me you md5 hash ?
[14:45] <WhiteDiesel> graingert:  at the moment the droppdown has custom and totem movie player.  Command: says rythymbox.  but i uninstalled rythymbox.
[14:45] <graingert> wolfie2x: no transparent flash
[14:45] <FLeiXiuS> How do I figure out which device alsa is using?
[14:45] <wolfie2x> q0r3: there's supposed to be better java and flash + sound
[14:45] <q0r3> wolfie2x, is it still buggier than 32-bit?
[14:45] <Martiini> Im not sure what tool to use to create a duplicate partition. I want to create a copy of a partition but I cannot use partimage
[14:45] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: yeah you didn't want to do that
[14:45] <ubuntakias> anyone knows how to configurate the conky program ?
[14:45] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: have you read the amarok.desktop file?
[14:45] <joaopinto> q0r3, flash is working better on me
[14:45] <gyven> Martiini, look into disk druid
[14:45] <WhiteDiesel> graingert: do what? delete rythymbox?
[14:45] <piasdom> what the difference between desktop and server ?
[14:46] <q0r3> _paneb, find the source of the iframe (right click->properties, depending on yoru browser), then "wget -r http://source"
[14:46] <graingert> WhiteDiesel: yeah :-p don't dleater it
[14:46] <graingert> piasdom: X11
[14:46] <joaopinto> piasdom, one provides desktop packages, the other, server packages
[14:46] <_paneb> q0r3, the source is ./
[14:46] <Pici> !server | piasdom
[14:46] <WhiteDiesel> hraingert:  it was deleted days ago
[14:46] <bingungaja> mgolisch : sorry to ask again, are u sure ?
[14:46] <leohartx> do anyone here have md5 hash of ubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:47] <mgolisch> bingungaja: yeah
[14:47] <wolfie2x> honestly I think a lot of guys expecting a new surprise on intrepid will be dissapointed
[14:47] <piasdom> thanks joaopinto and graingert
[14:47] <ia> hello, everybody. I just would like to congratulate all ubuntu users with intrepid ibex release :-)
[14:47] <Thylacine> ubuntakias, i saw today a howto on tuxmachines for conky
[14:47] <td123> thank god I got the release before the rush hit
[14:47] <bingungaja> mgolisch : glad u sure, cause the release note stated "geforce not support 3d" :) thx
[14:48] <td123> at the beginning of the download, I was dling @ 1000kbps at the end 100kbps :P
[14:48] <Bodsda> td123, i downloaded the release candidate last night then just got the individual upgrades :)
[14:48] <td123> Bodsda: I waited :D
[14:48] <wolfie2x> Bodsda: smart ;)
[14:49] <Bodsda> seems very stable wolfie2x td123
[14:49] <wolfie2x> Bodsda: what's ur impression on intrepid?
[14:49] <Anamn3sis> Can anyone help me setup encrypted partitions via dm-crypt/luks with the 8.10 text installer?
[14:49] <canhnm> Ati HD 3200 graphic card , after update tu 8.10 my screen resolution has only 800x600. Help me.
[14:49] <Gae> ciao
[14:49] <Gae> !list
[14:50] <bytor4232> All the main torrents to ubuntu i386 8.10 started at my home location.
[14:50] <Martiini> gyven: disk druid seems to b a partioning tool .. a partition copy tool is what im looking for
[14:50] <bytor4232> Every little bit of bandwidth helps ;)
[14:50] <smoovep> Question? is there a network printer setup utility in ubuntu server (no gui) .. thanks..
[14:50] <LordMetroid> Alright, new Ubuntu out...
[14:51] <bingungaja> ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso --- is this 64bit for intel core2duo too ?
[14:51] <LordMetroid> Now, however I can't find the slimmed version where I download all packages from the internet instead of having them in the installation CD
[14:51] <Pici> bingungaja: yes.
[14:51] <lfs> what's the difference between /etc/init.d/networking stop and ifdown interface?
[14:51] <Thylacine> so, does anyone know when the famous theme that will beat os x will arrive? :)
[14:51] <td123> I'm going to install 8.10 now :D
[14:51] <canhnm> Ati HD 3200 graphic card , after update tu 8.10 my screen resolution has only 800x600. Help me.
[14:51] <LordMetroid> Anyone know where I can get that internet-alternative installation CD?
[14:52] <spree> Why can't I use a apt-get dist-update to get intrepid?
[14:52] <spree> i mean dist-upgrade
[14:52] <maco> spree: it's a bad idea. we havent recommended that in *years*
[14:52] <leohartx> td123
[14:52] <Danny6167> maybe you mirror isnt up to date ?
[14:52] <maco> spree: do-release-upgrade and the update manager know about potential conflicts and how to sort them out
[14:52] <Pici> lfs: /etc/init.d/networking will bring up/down all interfaces by default (except lo)
[14:52] <leohartx> td123, can you send me md5 hash code of 8.10 ?
[14:52] <rexwin> !<factoid>
[14:52] <maco> spree: and they know when something stops being supported
[14:53] <ssam> the torrents on my virtual server are uploading at 700K/s each for the i386 and amd64 :-)
[14:53] <Pici> leohartx: The md5sums are in the MD5SUMS file here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[14:53] <spree> maco: oh wow that is cool
[14:53] <spree> maco: i didnt know you could do that
[14:53] <lfs> Pici, thanks
[14:53] <strange> hey guys i have libssl 0.9.8 installed
[14:53] <strange> but a program i want to run uses 0.9.7
[14:53] <smoovep> need to create a printer watch folder.. users can drop files in and automatically print.. any ideas? thx
[14:53] <strange> wont start :(
[14:53] <ce_ubuntu> where is changelog for 8.10 ?
[14:53] <maco> spree: yeah, they're given a hints file to help out
[14:54] <Pici> ce_ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[14:54] <ce_ubuntu> Pici thx
[14:54] <loca|host> i have a problem upgrading from 8.04.1 to 8.10:
[14:54] <krupa^> hey. ive installed vsftp server, im trying to connect but i want to define a list of directories that the user can see.... anyone knows how to do it? or i need to do 3 users useradd[] for 3 folders?
[14:54] <loca|host> authenticate 'intrepid.tar.gz' against 'intrepid.tar.gz.gpg'
[14:54] <TuxSympathiser> ce_ubuntu, do you mean the list of changes on the ubuntu website?
[14:54] <Martiini> Im looking for a partition copy tool , please .. to copy a bigger partition contents onto a smaller partition .. therefore Im not able to use partimage
[14:54] <lfs> how can I view the amount of data being transferred over the network per second?
[14:54] <loca|host> exception from gpg: GnuPG exited non-zero, with code 131072
[14:55] <maco> Martiini: just the contents? just mount both partitions and do a regular cp
[14:55] <canhnm> Ati HD 3200 graphic card , after update tu 8.10 my screen resolution has only 800x600. Help me.
[14:55] <ce_ubuntu> TuxSympathiser yes
[14:55] <X4D> Hi, is there any way to export Evolution memos and tasks to normal text files?
[14:55] <maco> loca|host: make sure you have all of your hardy upgrades done first
[14:55] <Martiini> maco:  are you sure ... i can use cp ... i might want to do file exclusions
[14:56] <joaopinto> canhnm, have you checked that you have the restricted drivers installed ?
[14:56] <canhnm> yes
[14:56] <maco> Martiini: well that wouldnt be the whole partition now would it? :P  how about rsync?  it has --exclude=...
[14:56] <TuxSympathiser> ce_ubuntu, I looked at it before considering to update to intrepid, I can say so far I'm impressed!
[14:56] <loca|host> maco, 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
[14:56] <Martiini> maco:  ok .. thank you for now
[14:57] <ubuntakias> all servers down .. lol
[14:57] <Eruaran> the torrents are rocketing along now
[14:57] <canhnm> joaopinto: I install with command "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager"
[14:58] <ubuntakias> u know any site with torrent ubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:58] <joaopinto> canhnm, I am referring to fglrx, the vidro driver, I don't remember right now it it's inclused on -restricted-
[14:58] <funkja> I'm going to be installing Ibex soon. I have a 64 bit processor, but traditionally I've shyed away from installing 64 bit ubuntu due to the lack of packages and unsupported things. Is this still the case with 8.10? Or should I consider installing 64 bit?
[14:58] <Pici> !torrents | ubuntakias
[14:58] <joaopinto> funkja, I am using 64bits without major problems,
[14:58] <canhnm> joaopinto: I 've allready install flgx too
[14:58] <joaopinto> canhnm, ok :\
[14:59] <geronimaldo> funkja: I'm using hardy on 64 and enjoying it
[14:59] <unstable> I have this X61, without a dvd/cd drive that attaches to it. I want to do a fresh install of Ibex. Is there an install guide for installing via a USB flash drive?
[14:59] <canhnm> joaopinto : But my screen resolution too bad :|
[14:59] <funkja> has it been noticeably faster then 32 bit?
[14:59] <magicrobotmonkey> wheres my private dir?
[14:59] <joaopinto> funkja, in general, you will not feel any difference
[15:00] <geronimaldo> funkja: it's faster than my 32bit mandriva box with identical specs
[15:00] <grindhold> are there any torrents yet for intrepid?
[15:00] <q0r3> grindhold, google?
[15:00] <Bodsda> why cant i remove the solid colour background? when i click on it, the button greys out (its the default solid colour not the default picture one)
[15:00] <joaopinto> magez, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[15:00] <bazhang> !torrents
[15:00] <geronimaldo> funkja: i'm running a couple of servers on it too and i've found it to be extremely stable
[15:00] <Bodsda> grindhold, i believe there are
[15:01] <funkja> geronimaldo: okay. thanks
[15:01] <geronimaldo> funkja: you're welcome
[15:01] <Eruaran> grindhold: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/intrepid/desktop/
[15:02] <scarface> Is there a list of '!' commands that bots respond to?
[15:02] <Eruaran> yes
[15:02] <boinboing> hello? i need help...
[15:02] <Pici> !usage > scarface
[15:02] <Rockj> spree, try  update-manager -c -d     , that worked for me.
[15:02] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone know how to enable the encrypted private dir?
[15:02] <scarface> thx
[15:02] <Rockj> as do-release-upgrade didn't find 8.10 .
[15:02] <geronimaldo> boinboing: that sounds like a drug/alocohol support group intro lol
[15:03] <LordMetroid> You know what I mean? the installation CD which downloads all package off internet instead of getting them from the CD
[15:03] <Bodsda> boinboing, ask away, if anyone can help, they will
[15:03] <kantor> jeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Intrepid is out !!!!!!
[15:03] <boinboing> geronimaldo: i understand i have to wait, just wanna be sure i'll have my help from you. I'ts important for me to recovery my data before reinstall!
[15:03] <canhnm> joaopinto :I install envyNG and it's show me the Ati driver compatites
[15:03] <Gnea> !minimal | LordMetroid
[15:04] <LordMetroid> Gnea, Cool thank you
[15:04] <Gnea> LordMetroid: cheers :)
[15:04] <boinboing> ok i post again my issue :
[15:04] <magicrobotmonkey> !private
[15:04] <boinboing> hi, can you help me? i'm from a live cd sessoin because updating my 8.04 to 8.10 fom update-manager -d crashed my ATI card and i can't see anything. I would like to save my old "home" folder to another partition (NTFS) before reinstall 8.04 but i can't access cause i have no permission...can you help please?
[15:04] <Mb81> hello, can somebody can help me shortly
[15:04] <LordMetroid> :( No 8.10 yet
[15:04] <geronimaldo> boinboing: ask your question and one of us will try and help you. .
[15:04] <Mb81> with an ubuntu problem ?
[15:04] <n0kS> Hello. Does Ubuntu 8.10 supports Phenom's Quad-Core and up to 4GB ram?
[15:05] <anders_> Mb81, just ask your question :)
[15:05] <Mb81> i want to access a remote sql server with php5-cli (command line)
[15:05] <Mb81> i installed the packages i believe i need
[15:05] <geronimaldo> boinboing: have you chrooted to your root partition
[15:05] <geronimaldo> ?
[15:05] <joaopinto> Mb81, you mean a mysql server ?
[15:05] <Mb81> yet, MYSQL cannot be reached
[15:06] <jburd> Umm, the Ubuntu Website seems down.
[15:06] <Bodsda> boinboing, can you please pastebin the output of this command -- sudo fdisk -l
[15:06] <Mb81> yes
[15:06] <Mb81> error is
[15:06] <Mb81> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[15:06] <der|kunstler> does ubuntu 8.10 includes vlc 0.9 and gimp 2.6 ?
[15:06] <musictoto> jburd: not for me
[15:06] <n0kS> jburd it's working
[15:06] <Mb81> and i want to access a remote ip with an mysql server
[15:06] <n0kS> Hello. Does Ubuntu 8.10 supports Phenom's Quad-Core and up to 4GB ram?
[15:06] <joaopinto> Mb81, is that mysql server setup for listening on the proper IP address ? By default mysql server is bind to localhost
[15:06] <n8tuser> Mb81-> remote connectino is not done via socket,
[15:06] <Bodsda> der|kunstler, gimp yes, vlc not sure
[15:06] <Mb81> yes, i can ping the server
[15:07] <philippe_> n0kS, yes take desktop-amd64 release
[15:07] <der|kunstler> Bodsda, k, thanks
[15:07] <Mb81> and the server should be already
[15:07] <joaopinto> der|kunstler, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com
[15:07] <X4D> I need to export evolution memos to separate text files, is there anyone who can tell me how to do this?
[15:07] <Bodsda> der|kunstler, your welcome
[15:07] <Mb81> but as the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[15:07] <Mb81> indicates
[15:07] <Mb81> it does not even connect
[15:07] <Oric> cd /
[15:07] <Oric> ls
[15:07] <Mb81> to anything
[15:07] <FloodBot2> Mb81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, lemme see... thanks for the hint
[15:07] <joaopinto> Mb81, it is not about pinging, it's about change the mysql server configuration to make the service available remotely
[15:07] <n8tuser> Mb81-> you have to correct your jdbc connect string
[15:08] <n0kS> philippe_ I had a sound problem on 8.04 amd64 so I'm not sure they fix this....
[15:08] <joaopinto> n8thyoung, you do not need jdbc to connect to a mysqlserver from php :)
[15:08] <Mb81> hmm... i use the default mysql client config i guess
[15:08] <der|kunstler> joaopinto, 0.9.4-1ubuntu3 .... that means it's good... what does multiverse means ?
[15:08] <Mb81> jdbc for php5-cli ?
[15:08] <joaopinto> Mb81, you need to change it, check your /etc/mysql
[15:08] <joaopinto> Mb81, jdbc has nothing to do with this talk :)
[15:08] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> what does php called their connectivity? im just to java, using jdbc :P
[15:08] <philippe_> n0kS, I really can't tell. You can take the i386 one but only 3 gigabyte of ram will be detected/used
[15:09] <joaopinto> n8thyoung, it's just, the mysql module for php :)
[15:09] <Ximal> does anyone here know how to edit an ISO file and inject txt or other types of files into them ? I am trying to find a way to backup my old windows system and put my keys on a disc by iso editing a txt file by injection... please help ?
[15:09] <n8tuser> same concept, its a data connector, for database
[15:09] <Mb81> hmm.. joa. the my.conf setup seems alright
[15:09] <Mb81> networking is allowed
[15:10] <n0kS> Ximal uncompress the iso file, put your files inside and then compress it
[15:10] <Mb81> and binding to local ip is removed
[15:10] <joaopinto> Ximal, you can copy the iso to the HD, mount it with loopback mount, and just edit it
[15:10] <Mb81> do i need to install mysql server package to access a remote mysql server ?
[15:10] <n8tuser> Mb81-> you are connecting to remote and not local. so change the connect string to connect to remote
[15:10] <codyzapp> does ubuntu support .uha files?
[15:10] <Ximal> so use an ISO mounting tool ? like iso mount ? and then edit it ?
[15:10] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[15:10] <rohan> how do i remove the old kernel packages on my running system?
[15:11] <Mb81> well i do
[15:11] <joaopinto> Mb81, no you do not
[15:11] <Mb81> but i cannot even make "mysql serverip"
[15:11] <joaopinto> rohan, sudo apt-get remove package-name....
[15:11] <Mb81> without getting that error
[15:11] <joaopinto> Mb81, have you changed your mysql server config already ?
[15:11] <dfgas> YAY!!!
[15:11] <Mb81> yes
[15:11] <rohan> joaopinto: the kernel is not just one package - it has modules, modules-restricted etc
[15:11] <dfgas> wish i had a faster mirror
[15:11] <Mb81> just one line
[15:11] <dfgas> heh
[15:11] <joaopinto> Mb81, did you restart mysql after the change ?
[15:12] <joaopinto> rohan, sure, just list them with sudo dpkg -l linux-* :)
[15:12] <Mb81> hmmm... sec
[15:12] <Mb81> let me look
[15:12] <Mb81> yet i don´t believe its an cause
[15:12] <Mb81> on the remote mysql server
[15:12] <grindhold> anyone has teh same problem as me? not able to make inputs to GRUB with an usb keyboard
[15:12] <joaopinto> Mb81, also did you granted privileges to remote connections, with the mysql grant command ?
[15:12] <n8tuser> Mb81-> it is the client you are configuring here, not the server, but also make sure the server at the remote end allows network connections
[15:12] <Mb81> it does not seem like mysql client on the main serv
[15:12] <Mb81> can work
[15:12] <cwillu> grindhold, make sure your bios has usb legacy keyboard support enabled
[15:13] <Ximal> joaopinto : what is this loopback mount ?
[15:13] <Mb81> wouldn´t be the error like "timeout"
[15:13] <joaopinto> !iso | Ximal
[15:13] <Mb81> if the server cannot be reached due rights/whatever ?
[15:13] <rohan> joaopinto: ok. i wish there were an easier way to just remove the older ones
[15:13] <Ximal> wow... thanks jp
[15:13] <joaopinto> Mb81, what error are you getting ? please pastebin
[15:13] <grindhold> thx cwillu
[15:13] <Mb81> "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"
[15:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, I tried to upgrade to 8.10 this morning and I got an error saying i could not, something to do with third-party packages or upgrading to/frm a pre-release package
[15:13] <joaopinto> rohan, not that I know off
[15:14] <joaopinto> Mb81, you are trying to connect to the local server, not to the remote
[15:14] <n8tuser> Mb81-> just like the error you are getting, socket error which means it is attempting a localhost connection instead of remote
[15:14] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[15:14] <Mb81> i believe "Lost connection" is the right one
[15:14] <Mb81> if it is a problem with the remote serv
[15:14] <joaopinto> Mb81, you are not specifying an remote server, that's your problem
[15:14] <Ximal> jaopinto : do i use the < and > comments ?
[15:15] <Mb81> well, how todo that ?
[15:15] <Mb81> i mean.. i make "mysql remote server ip"
[15:15] <joaopinto> Ximal, no, just: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /a_directory_for_the_contents
[15:15] <Mb81> what kind of setting is needed for this ?
[15:15] <weirdo> hello
[15:15] <joaopinto> Mb81, please read the mysql man page, man mysql
[15:15] <Ximal> should it be ~/file.iso instead ?
[15:15] <Mb81> lol
[15:15] <n8tuser> Mb81-> have you looked at the mysql tutorials?  please do if you have not yet
[15:16] <joaopinto> Ximal, whatever is your filename ;)
[15:16] <weirdo> what is better upgrading by update-manager -d or a fresh new installation(witch a homepartition)?
[15:16] <Mb81> well, its php-cli
[15:16] <Mb81> not the usual stuff
[15:16] <joaopinto> weirdo, ubuntu developers recommend doing the upgrade
[15:16] <yok3r> how can i sincronize my nike+?
[15:16] <n8tuser> Mb81-> same thing, look at the tutorials on how to use php-cli
[15:16] <weirdo> ?
[15:16] <Mb81> well, i check the config again
[15:16] <G__81> why does ubuntu web site say only about 8.10 server ?
[15:16] <rohan> is there anyway i can do apt-get remove *2.6.24-16* ?
[15:17] <joaopinto> Mb81, is not about configuration, is about your lack of knowledge on how to use the mysql client, please read the manpage or a tutotiral
[15:17] <Mb81> well, its just a package installation
[15:17] <Mb81> doubt there is much todo
[15:17] <RabidLockerGnome> w0000t release day :-D
[15:17] <TuxSympathiser> weirdo, personally I backup and do a fresh installation to avoid upgrade difficulties, although backing up data is recommended before upgrading anyway
[15:17] <Bodsda> im looking through the settings on xchat startup list, and there is no auto join channels list anymore only a favourites, how do i autojoin my favourite channels?
[15:17] <dr_willis> G__81,  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors shows more then just server here.
[15:17] <joaopinto> rohan, try: sudo apt-get remove "linux-*2.6.24-16*"
[15:17] <weirdo> the upgrade is 749 mb wtf
[15:17] <maco> weirdo: why is that surprising?
[15:18] <RabidLockerGnome> you were expecting, perhaps, 748MB?
[15:18] <cwillu> Bodsda, favourite channels is the autojoin list
[15:18] <n8tuser> weirdo-> please your language...btw use a fresh install instead of upgrade
[15:18] <znh> Hello.
[15:18] <maco> weirdo: thats all the software on the cd, plus whatever you installed from the repositories
[15:18] <weirdo> its not surprising
[15:18] <G__81> dr_willis, but why is the flash which is in ubuntu web site says only about server
[15:18] <Ximal> ok... it's not working..
[15:18] <joaopinto> n8tuser, do not recommended a fresh install over an upgrade !
[15:18] <rohan> joaopinto: didn't work. i'll use a gui package manage ri guess
[15:18] <Ximal> it says unable to edit the folder sir..
[15:18] <Bodsda> cwillu, how come it doesnt work then? are they meant to be seperated with a comma then a space?
[15:18] <dr_willis> G__81,  No idea.. does it really matter.. :)
[15:18] <znh> I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed.. but the performance is quite slow. I have Gnome and everything, which I like allot.. Are there any tweaks too speed things up? I have a 800Mhz, 256MB RAM
[15:18] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> off course it is preferable, my experience with upgrade -- 90% fails
[15:18] <cwillu> Bodsda, just commas
[15:19] <q0r3> !torrent
[15:19] <Bodsda> cwillu, kk,  cheers
[15:19] <G__81> dr_willis, you running 8.10 final ?
[15:19] <bahadunn> hey what about that kernel problem in 2.6.27?
[15:19] <bahadunn> is that resolved in intrepid
[15:19] <q0r3> !torrents
[15:19] <dr_willis> G__81,  yes.. have been using 8.10 for several days.
[15:19] <ArtVandalae> e1000 prob? fixed
[15:19] <joaopinto> n8thyoung, but that is not the recommended procedure
[15:19] <weirdo> the upgrade to 8.10 is running
[15:19] <cwillu> bahadunn, can you be more specific?
[15:19] <maco> znh: with 256mb ram, not surprised it's slow.  maybe xubuntu for that machine?
[15:19] <bahadunn> cwillu: yeah but I have to look it up cause I forgot what the problem was
[15:19] <cwillu> n8thyoung, I've never had a failed upgrade.
[15:19] <znh> maco, I know it's existence and tried it before, but it has way less functionality than Gnome has
[15:20] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> then what, people keep coming here and complains their upgrade didnt work, so i just suggest a fresh install, less headaches
[15:20] <boinboing> help please....
[15:20] <bahadunn> cwillu: it is about a networking change in the kernel that caused distribution headaches
[15:20] <maco> znh: well 256mb is the minimum ubuntu needs to run
[15:20] <xorlim> did people have problems upgrading to 8.10?
[15:20] <bahadunn> cwillu: cannot tell you more then that as it is a "subscriber only" article on LWN.net
[15:21] <xorlim> boinboing: did you have a problem upgrading to 8.10?
[15:21] <Chousuke> lwn <3
[15:21] <boinboing> xorlim, yes !
[15:21] <cwillu> bahadunn, no idea then.  The gigabit ethernet issue was fixed a while ago, no idea if you meant something else
[15:21] <madrazr> Hi all, I have a lot of packages installed on Hardy. I am doing a fresh install of Intrepid for some reason. Can I make a list of all the packages installed here through synaptic and use it in Intrepid (assuming the package names have not changed) to reduce the burden of selecting them separately?
[15:21] <xorlim> boinboing: what happened?
[15:21] <znh> maco, I admit its not enough, but are there tweaks or something alike?
[15:21] <madrazr> can anyone help me please?
[15:21] <cwillu> madrazr, just do an upgrade
[15:21] <DJones> !cloning | madrazr
[15:22] <maco> znh: you can look at system -> admin -> services and disable things like bluetooth which i bet that old of a computer doesnt have
[15:22] <kantor> at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/  the DVD ISO images are updated to the final release of ubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:22] <znh> maco, okay
[15:22] <joaopinto> n8tuser, I had the same idea, but the upgrade process is expected to be more reliable nowadays
[15:22] <boinboing> xorlim, my ati hd 2600 pro pci-e doesnt' work, it has the envy drivers...and after upgrading to 8.10 the video crashes, no way to login in graphic mode
[15:22] <Mussuline> alguem sabe porque o Kernel 2.6.21 nao navega na internet???
[15:22] <madrazr> cwillu: as I said I cannot upgrade, I have messed up my system enough, I need a fresh install
[15:22] <xorlim> boinboing: ok
[15:22] <maco> znh: you might want to look at finding some lighterweight alternatives to some of whats in ubuntu
[15:23] <troynt> Where do I download JeOS? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/ isn't working
[15:23] <boinboing> xorlim, i would like to reinstall and i need to save my old "home" folder to another partition, but from live cd seems i can't.
[15:23] <maco> !pt | musictoto
[15:23] <maco> ack
[15:23] <maco> er...
[15:23] <TuxSympathiser> madrazr: personally I would recommend installing programs as you need them, although this is my personal preference and may not be ideal for everybody!
[15:23] <maco> oh he's gone
[15:23] <ferronica> riight now 32bit Xp Pro installed, can i install 64bit ubuntu 8.10 over it any problem?
[15:23] <znh> maco, I've tried allot of distributions, but I like Ubuntu because of it's fast user approach
[15:23] <Superman> hi  everybody
[15:23] <joaopinto> ferronica, if you shrink your ntfs partition, no problems
[15:23] <maco> znh: fast user approach?
[15:23] <hackel> Is there no longer any way to configure gnome session to auto-respawn a process?  Specifically, I want pulseaudio to relaunch automatically when it crashes.
[15:23] <bahadunn> cwillu: http://lwn.net/Articles/304791/ is what I am referring too but I am not a subscriber
[15:24] <musictoto> maco: i don't speak portuguese... why do you give me that notice ?
[15:24] <madrazr> TuxSympathiser: understandable, even I prefer it that way, but now inevitable
[15:24] <joaopinto> ferronica, assuming you have free space for the resize :), and you should defrag it also
[15:24] <deepfriedsquirre> Can I boot to RAM in intrepid? Is the boot manager is different to that of Feisty?
[15:24] <maco> musictoto: i was trying to send it to mussuline, but he quit a moment before
[15:24] <Blinny> hackel: Just write a wrapper.
[15:24] <musictoto> maco: ok no problem :)
[15:24] <Chousuke> bahadunn: the issue has to do with a change in the TCP stack in Linux
[15:24] <deepfriedsquirre> I was thinking of following this, but it's lengthy and looks outdated: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BootToRAM
[15:24] <Chousuke> bahadunn: it broke some broken devices
[15:24] <Superman> i have a new notebook sony vaio with wi.... installed, i want to install ubuntu 8.10, what version should i install, 32 o 64 bits? sony vaio model is vgn-nr498e
[15:24] <he11`0ff> maco: eu falo pt
[15:24] <n8tuser> hackel maybe you can, using events, but i have not seen many scripts to make use of it yet
[15:24] <troynt> Where do I download JeOS? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/ isn't working
[15:24] <Chousuke> bahadunn: and ubuntu worked around it for intrepid by disabling TCP timestamping.
[15:24] <pur-angst> that's a secret
[15:25] <znh> maco, yes. The ease of wireless networking. The good look it has. and not to forget the quite new packages and often new updates. Debian is too slow or too new
[15:25] <lfs> where do I monitor the alerts snort is supposed to trigger?
[15:25] <joaopinto> troubled, I believe JeOS is now an option on the server cd
[15:25] <joaopinto> ops, was troynt
[15:25] <maco> znh: ah ok.  well, anyway, disable bluetooth, disable any drivers you dont need to have loaded
[15:25] <maco> znh: what kind of graphics do you have?
[15:25] <troynt> joaopinto: ooh, :( I have to download all that....
[15:25] <troynt> joaopinto: thx
[15:25] <Chousuke> bahadunn: you should consider getting an lwn subscription, it's cheap :)
[15:26] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[15:26] <musictoto> troynt: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos   if you read that, you see that you have to download the normal server ISO, and from there you cna use JeOS
[15:26] <joaopinto> troynt, but I am not 100% sure, didn't tested it myself
[15:26] <znh> maco, just the normal one in Appearance if that's what you mean.
[15:26] <Blinny> znh: You can also profile your boot to speed boot times - Check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263
[15:26] <madrazr> !automate
[15:26] <troynt> musictoto: thx
[15:27] <musictoto> troynt: you're welcome
[15:27] <maco> znh: no, i mean do you have nvidia, ati, intel...?
[15:27] <deepfriedsquirre> Can I boot to RAM in intrepid? Is the boot manager is different to that of Feisty? I was thinking of following this, but it's lengthy and looks outdated: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BootToRAM
[15:27] <znh> maco, Trident CyberBladeXP.. onboard thingy with 16MB
[15:28] <mib_7wxb3j9d> Has anyone gotten errors trying to burn the 8.
[15:28] <mib_7wxb3j9d> Has anyone gotten errors trying to burn the 8.10 ISO
[15:28] <joaopinto> mib_7wxb3j9d, have you checked the md5sum before burning ?
[15:28] <mib_7wxb3j9d> yes
[15:28] <maco> znh: ok, well in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist you can add "blacklist nvidia" and "blacklist ati" so that it doesnt load those graphics drivers into memory
[15:28] <DefineByte> is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to build the Intrepid kernel in Hardy?
[15:28] <mib_7wxb3j9d> joaopinto: I burned it twice, and both got errors
[15:29] <joaopinto> mib_7wxb3j9d, so it is not related to the image, nut to the CD burner/media :)
[15:29] <chocohoof> hi does somebodz know why i cannot use nor my keyboard, nor my mouse?
[15:29] <joaopinto> but
[15:29] <znh> maco, okay
[15:29] <mib_7wxb3j9d> joaopinto: both errors at the same place too
[15:29] <joaopinto> chocohoof, after upgrading to intrepid ?
[15:29] <bahadunn> Chousuke: use to have a subscription but did not want to renew it
[15:29] <ionte> ok, no graphics after the boot-graphics on my ati-card in 8.10 :( :( :(
[15:29] <n8tuser> DefineByte-> is it because not all the libraries and kernel headers are available yet?
[15:29] <[TiZ]> Hi. I deleted all of my thumbnails. Now my appearance preferences are royally mesed up. All themes are question marks, and it's 100% CPU and unresponsive. Help?
[15:29] <aldur> DefineByte... What is a intrepid kernel?
[15:29] <Chousuke> bahadunn: heh
[15:29] <vbabiy> hey how would I fix this config  so eth0 using opendns
[15:29] <ajunior> 2.6.27
[15:29] <mib_7wxb3j9d> joaopinto: oh well, Ill try again later with a different CD burning progrom
[15:29] <vbabiy> http://paste2.org/p/94452
[15:29] <chocohoof> nope, the release candidate
[15:30] <bahadunn> 32 packages to go
[15:30] <DefineByte> can't remember which version. I'm just getting it with git
[15:30] <Chousuke> bahadunn: I was too impatient to wait a week for the stuff to open up so I got a subscription
[15:30] <bahadunn> Chousuke: :)
[15:30] <bahadunn> Chousuke: that is the idea I think
[15:30] <Chousuke> it's almost free anyway
[15:30] <n8tuser> [TiZ]-> i dont know, try gdm restart ?
[15:31] <DefineByte> seems like it's 2.6.27-7.15
[15:31] <ferronica_> joaopinto: why i need to shrink?
[15:31] <maco> znh: there's a book called Hacking Ubuntu that has some performance tweaks in it
[15:31] <gribouille> hi
[15:31] <[TiZ]> n8tuser: Never considered restarting. :P Thanks. I'll give it a shot (after my intrepid isos finish downloading) and come back if it doesn't work.
[15:31] <DefineByte> I can't get it to build and I need a customised version for another computer. >.<
[15:31] <gribouille> I have the following problem with nfs : I can mount a remote file system with nfs, but if I try with nfs4, I get the following error : mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted. what does it mean ?
[15:31] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[15:31] <joaopinto> ferronica, unless you use WUBI, you can't install into an ntfs partition
[15:31] <aldur> DefineByte... is intrepid a special linux kernel?
[15:31] <vbabiy> hey how would I fix this config  so eth0 using opendns http://paste2.org/p/94452
[15:31] <timposey> If I switch user in Ubuntu does the first user session keep running the program that I am running?  such as an upgrade or a download?
[15:31] <[TiZ]> aldur: He's talking about 2.6.27
[15:31] <aldur> TiZ aha
[15:32] <dr_willis> timposey,  they keep running.. You coudl try it and see with the 'ps ax' command
[15:32] <raovq> does ubuntu not make live cds anymore?
[15:32] <[TiZ]> Unfortunately, I can't actually help. I have 0 experience building kernels. :(
[15:32] <DefineByte> 'intrepid kernel' would be the linux kernel used in Ubuntu 8.10 aka Intrepid Ibex. :)
[15:32] <dr_willis> raovq,  theres plenty of live cd't that i see..
[15:32] <maco> raovq: that's what the desktop cd is
[15:32] <dr_willis> raovq,  they renamed them desktop. :)
[15:32] <aldur> DefineByte okey!  :P
[15:32] <musictoto> !liveCD
[15:32] <[TiZ]> raovq: Yeah, they still do. http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[15:32] <raovq> ah, thatd be it
[15:32] <raovq> cheers all
[15:32] <xiaopi> hi
[15:33] <xiaopi> what's with the split desktop/server ?
[15:33] <ferronica_> joaopinto: i am not going to use WUBI,
[15:33] <n8tuser> DefineByte-> perhaps grab the /boot/config-*-generic of the 8.10 to get you started with the configure file
[15:33] <mr_polite> has nvidia released a fixed legacy driver for 8.10?
[15:33] <xiaopi> i run a lot of server stuff on local to do some testing actually
[15:33] <ferronica_> joaopinto: i will use  textmode installation
[15:33] <aaron> does anyone know of a sendmail gui?
[15:33] <ionte> has anyone got 8.10 to install with an ati card?
[15:33] <joaopinto> ferronica, then you will need to shrink your ntfs part, and create the new one for ubuntu
[15:33] <musictoto> !server > xiaopi
[15:34] <DefineByte> Might be a place to start but I've already got a custom config. I guess it would rule out certain possibilities.
[15:34] <ionte> or, is it possible to do a text-mode install with the default cd?
[15:34] <n8tuser> !who
[15:34] <timposey> dr_willis  Thanks for the reply and glad it keeps running, but I have no idea what 'ps ax' command is if you could explain that one, maybe I could learn something today...Thanks!!
[15:34] <xiaopi> thx musictoto
[15:34] <flakrat> where is the firewall in 8.10?
[15:34] <musictoto> xiaopi no problem
[15:34] <DefineByte> actually. now that I think about it, I'm using the default config for it anyway. I gave up on the custom one.
[15:34] <dr_willis> timposey,  read the ps man pages..   it shows processes
[15:34] <xiaopi> so less server apps on desktop livecd?
[15:34] <n8tuser> flakrat-> should be in the same place,  do a sudo iptables -vL
[15:35] <dr_willis> timposey,  ps ax shows ALL processes
[15:35] <DefineByte> I thought I better try to build it and I get a log full of errors. >.>
[15:35] <musictoto> xiaopi: you can install everything that's on the server edition on the desktop edition and vice versa manually
[15:35] <musictoto> xiaopi: but by default, yes.
[15:36] <xiaopi> i know just i got slow isp at work and just wanna download it at home tonight :)
[15:36] <tphilosopher> Can anyone tell me a command that allows me to view what files a package provides?
[15:36] <DefineByte> Stuff like "WARNING: init/built-in.o(.text+0x4a4): Section mismatch..." all the way through
[15:36] <bahadunn> tphilosopher: dpkg -L packagename
[15:36] <n8tuser> xiaopi-> plan for which packages you need downloading, mostlikely in the next few days, the download servers are overwhelmed
[15:36] <tphilosopher> bahadunn: Thanks.
[15:37] <tiggers> so.... Did Ibex Intrepid come out today? Is that ubuntu 8.10?
[15:37] <musictoto> tiggers: yes
[15:37] <flakrat> n8tuser, thanks
[15:38] <DefineByte> I'm getting it from here: intrepid: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git. maybe that's not the best idea?
[15:38] <foorilious> if I have RC1 installed, is there a way to upgrade to the official release without reinstalling from scratch?
[15:38] <aho_> how does ubuntu change resolutions on the fly, without restarting X ?
[15:38] <aho_> is there a tool to change X resolutions ?
[15:38] <Linuturk> foorilious, if you have the RC, updating your system will make it final
[15:38] <joaopinto> aho_, using xrandr
[15:38] <znh> aho_, there is a keyboard combination for that afaik
[15:38] <MrPink-> >	hey all, I am having sound problems... Sound works perfectly fine in firefox (youtube etc.) but I don't have any sound when trying to play videos I have on my hd! (using) VLC, any ideas?
[15:39] <foorilious> ok thank you
[15:39] <Linuturk> foorilious, just run update manager as usual
[15:39] <aho_> ahh ok thanks (xrandr)
[15:39] <ferronica_> joaopinto: you mean creating new partition for ubuntu right where it resides?
[15:40] <mib_qz3pfm> how to find my currnet version is beta, rc or fina?
[15:40] <ldiamond> why is 8.10 not supported for as long as 8.04? Still unstable?
[15:41] <aldur> MrPink ... sometimes you have to select right soundtrack in vlc
[15:41] <DefineByte> Because it's not an LTS release
[15:41] <DefineByte> \long term support
[15:41] <znh> what is an LTS release?
[15:41] <znh> Oh
[15:41] <DefineByte> :)
[15:41] <znh> You knew that before I typed that, wow
[15:41] <scarface> !lts
[15:41] <joaopinto> ferronica, yes
[15:41] <MrPink-> aldur: its not only VLC all other players I have tried so far have the same thing
[15:42] <DefineByte> which version of VLC is in 8.10 btw?
[15:42] <joaopinto> ldiamond, no, it's stable, but LTSs are have their own schedule
[15:42] <GibbaTheHutt> vlc 0.9.4
[15:42] <joaopinto> DefineByte, check at packages.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <DefineByte> thanks :D
[15:42] <scarface> !packages > DefineByte
[15:42] <mib_qz3pfm> how to find the installed version is beta, rc or final?
[15:42] <ferronica_> joaopinto: oh ok thanx :) so there is no problem i have already two partitions :)
[15:42] <ldiamond> Ok, lets rephrase. Why is 8.10 not a LTS?
[15:43] <aldur> MrPink..  okey.  did you have sound previously in vlc?
[15:43] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> perhaps timing?
[15:43] <joaopinto> mib_qz3pfm, if you have installed any of those, just install the updates, you will be with the final
[15:43] <ldiamond> ...? what does timing have to do with that?
[15:43] <darkvertex> does anyone know which iptables version that Ibex has?
[15:43] <joaopinto> ferronica_, so just choose to use the one which is free
[15:43] <ArkoldThos> ldiamond: there is a release calendar
[15:43] <joaopinto> !packages > darkvertex
[15:44] <dr_willis> darkvertex,  iptables --version
[15:44] <dr_willis> iptables -> v1.4.0
[15:44] <ArkoldThos> ldiamond: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[15:44] <ldiamond> only releases from April are LTS?
[15:44] <MrPink-> aldur: yes I have had sound before
[15:44] <GibbaTheHutt> MrPink-, what do you have set in your sound preferences as sources
[15:44] <DefineByte> there aren't enough developers to provide long term support for /every/ release
[15:44] <darkvertex> ﻿dr_willis: download still in progress :(
[15:44] <LjL> ugh
[15:44] <joaopinto> ldiamond, no, LTSs do not have a fix schedule
[15:44] <LjL> sorry
[15:45] <ArkoldThos> not LTS releases have many cutting edge features, that aren't tested at all
[15:45] <ArkoldThos> so they normally are unstable, but the why of this is because many people will test it
[15:45] <ArkoldThos> and more bug reports will come
[15:45] <Pici> ArkoldThos: All Releases are tested.
[15:45] <MrPink-> GibbaTheHutt: Alsa
[15:45] <darkvertex> ﻿joaopinto: thanks
[15:45] <ArkoldThos> Pici: do you have used Intrepid already?
[15:45] <ArkoldThos> :P
[15:45] <joaopinto> ArkoldThos, yes, and it is stable
[15:45] <Pici> ArkoldThos: Yes. I've been running it since early Alphas.
[15:46] <ArkoldThos> them are tested, but still they try to add many cutting edge features
[15:46] <mib_qz3pfm> lts means you can use it in  your system and stop worrying for next 4,5 years
[15:46] <aldur> MrPink... sounds strange  :P    maybe you should try to run alsamixer in terminal to really check that you dont have some channel muted...
[15:46] <GibbaTheHutt> MrPink-, tried setting music/movies to pulseaudio ?
[15:46] <MrPink-> aldur: I already started alsamixer and checked its all set to "full"
[15:46] <MrPink-> GibbaTheHutt: No, what is pulseaudio ?
[15:46] <aldur> MrPink and not muted?
[15:47] <eth01> ek
[15:47] <MrPink-> aldur: nothing is muted
[15:47] <GibbaTheHutt> its the soundserver
[15:47] <GibbaTheHutt> I have that set (though its not without its issues)
[15:47] <troal01> Are there certain GUI glitches in Intrepid? Sometimes the windows don't have a header and resizing doesn't always work properly
[15:48] <GibbaTheHutt> troal01, see if the same happens if you change the theme (I get that in human theme sometimes so I change it, seems to fix it for me)
[15:49] <aldur> MrPink  sorry i dont have a solution.... maybe try to remove ./vlc folder in your home dir and pray that vlc discover your soundcard correctly :)
[15:49] <n8tuser> for those that have 8.10  successfully installed -- let us know how the upstart and event.d stuff works, improved or same ?
[15:49] <DefineByte> I guess I'll upgrade to 8.10 and see if I can compile it form there. x)
[15:50] <_lord_x> hi guys, i have setup my ubuntu to send me emails when my backups are done or failed. but i also get emails from cron (i have running a little backup script). the email from cron doesnt get delivered and so i get a message not delivered email back to my sender email. how can i stop this?
[15:50] <osiris_> Hi all, just installed ubuntu 8.10 and my hard drive is click every minute or so.
[15:50] <MrPink-> GibbaTheHutt: When I go to sound preferences and "test" the sound with the beeping Alsa is the only one that seems to work
[15:50] <petenix> evolution is still refusing to let me delete a message from trash
[15:51] <troal01> GibbaTheHutt: Switched to Glossy, seems to have fixed it thanks!
[15:51] <_lord_x> ah i need to say the backup script if for the config files of my real backup software :)
[15:52] <wers> seed
[15:52] <wers> seeeed
[15:52] <foorilious> I have 8.10 on a Dell E6500 and get no sound at all if any app like firefox or rdesktop is running, and if those apps aren't running, the sound is extremely quiet.  I've been through all the alsamixer / volume control stuff.
[15:54] <dr_willis> wers,  gee.. i was getting amazing fast download speeds.. seems theres plenty of seeds
[15:54] <wers> how fast for you, dr_willis ?
[15:54] <wers> just 60kbps for me
[15:54] <dr_willis> wers,  well 2 whole isos  in under.. 20 min.. proberly quicker.. i wasent paying attention.. I got kubuntu and ubuntu 64bits just now..
[15:55] <wers> what the
[15:55] <wers> which torrent?
[15:55] <hsarkar> is there any desktop viewer applicaiton for ubuntu. like teamviewer?
[15:55] <_lord_x> vnc?
[15:55] <estel_> O_o
[15:55] <hsarkar> _lord_x: nop something like teamviewer
[15:56] <_lord_x> whats the difference?
[15:56] <hsarkar> or microsoft sharepoint
[15:56] <Pici> Sharepoint is a CMS
[15:56] <dr_willis> wers ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso torrent.
[15:56] <tuxx67> anyone use usb-creator?
[15:57] <hsarkar> that allows your desktop to be shared with other developers, around the world and explain something
[15:57] <poffof> is the default ubuntu wallpaper available somewhere separately?
[15:57] <tuxx67> can i install ubuntu from my usb disk as i would a cd, like a full install
[15:57] <shesek> tuxx67, yeah
[15:57] <wers> dr_willis, i'm downloading the i386. it should be faster or at least as fast. what the hell is wrong with this? does it have anything to do with the fact that I'm on windows xp now? haha
[15:57] <shesek> let me find you a link
[15:57] <tuxx67> shesek, and not have to use the usb disk everytime i boot?
[15:57] <dr_willis> wers,   No idea.. i was using utorrent on vista for mine
[15:57] <don> just testing if I am connected and who I am connected as
[15:57] <shesek> tuxx67, you can install it to the HD, as you normally do
[15:57] <ShawnR> hi,  I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server and after configuring a software RAID 1, I cannot format it (sticks at 33%), then when I try to disassemble the RAID in the partition manager, it says it cannot b/c it is in use.  is this common?
[15:58] <tuxx67> shesek, coolo
[15:58] <shesek> tuxx67, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:58] <MrPink-> GibbaTheHutt: aldur: any other ideas :-/
[15:58] <nickybatts> my ubuntu doesn't see my flash drive...
[15:58] <nickybatts> Sup wit dat?
[15:58] <wers> ooh. i'm also using utorrent but on xp. dr_willis you downloading with the official torrent file right?
[15:58] <edeca> Should I be able to create more than one normal partition inside a RAID md, or do I need to use LVM on top of RAID?
[15:58] <dr_willis> wers,  yes.  i  belive so
[15:59] <DefineByte> The kernel is still using CONFIG_FIRMWARE_EDID=y I see. :(
[15:59] <funkt4life> will Nvidia 9800 gx2 work with 8.10?
[15:59] <GibbaTheHutt> MrPink-, I think ideally you need to look at getting pulseaudio working, maybe check in /var/log/messages see if anything amiss with errors on bootup
[15:59] <psp> Omg running 8.10 now :D
[15:59] <joaopinto> MrPink-, do you have mutiple sound cards ?
[15:59] <eth01> is there a minimal version of this latest release
[15:59] <dr_willis> wers,  from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:59] <eth01> ideal for thinclients per se?
[16:00] <marco_> hi. how do i enable a property of compiz-fusion that consist in separating all open windows each time the cursor moves to the right top corner
[16:00] <aldur> MrPink sorry :(   can you play mp3 with your musicplayer?
[16:00] <Mimi> I can't find any Xubuntu 8.10 torrents, is Xubuntu not supported by Canonical any longer?:(
[16:00] <joaopinto> eth01, I guess the best option is to do a minimal install using the alternate cd
[16:00] <nickybatts> Dudes, how do I get Ubuntu to see my flash drive?
[16:00] <Mimi> marco_,  that's expose, right? Let me check  ccsm
[16:00] <eth01> ok, my thoughts.
[16:00] <eth01> thanks! ^
[16:00] <joaopinto> Mimi, ask on #xubuntu
[16:01] <marco_> thanks Mimi
[16:01] <dr_willis> Mimi,  i see them at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:01] <Mimi> joaopinto, thanks :)
[16:01] <osiris_> Hi all, just installed ubuntu 8.10 and my hard drive is click every minute or so.
[16:01] <CVirus> congratulations everybody
[16:02] <DefineByte> Is the RC the same as the final release?
[16:02] <_lord_x_> nope
[16:02] <pavs> I did a clean install of ibex, and it seems a lot slow and screen flickers ocassionally. Anyone elses noticed this?
[16:02] <pavs> Using the RC
[16:02] <Mimi> dr_willis, got it, thanks for the link :)
[16:02] <DefineByte> Ah well. :)
[16:03] <dr_willis> DefineByte,  once ya update/upgrade it will be
[16:03] <marco_> pavs, yes. on kubuntu
[16:03] <billybigrigger> can someone tell me which version of wine ibex ships with? is it still 1.0?
[16:03] <pavs> marco_ any way to fix that?
[16:03] <DefineByte> dr_willis. I don't have it installed. I need it for another computer.
[16:03] <Pici> !info wine | billybigrigger
[16:03] <joaopinto> !packages > billybigrigger
[16:03] <Pici> er
[16:03] <DefineByte> It doesn't matter. I can just download it again.
[16:04] <dr_willis> DefineByte,  expect about 200mb of updates i imagine at the start.
[16:04] <billybigrigger> Pici joaopinto thanks
[16:04] <dulak> billybigrigger: 1.1.16 in intrepid
[16:04] <grendal_prime> ok I want to make a wmv(or flash or anything that these people can view with windows) file out of an avi file that was encoded with xvid,
[16:04] <DefineByte> thanks. :)
[16:04] <aldur> MrPink   maybe you should try ::   sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse       maybe you have problem with vlc because of the switch from alsa to pulse audio-server.... ask the gurus here on irc
[16:04] <ldiamond> Any mirror with speed higher than 30KB/s??
[16:04] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  you can watch xvid on windows...
[16:04] <marco_> pavs, sorry. i'm a newbie. i don't know. i wish i could know the solution. i like kubuntu but i removed it because the screen flickers
[16:04] <grendal_prime> Im using acidrip and there is the vfw option, but that just errors and says it cannot locate the codec.
[16:05] <grendal_prime> dr_willis ya if we install a codec..wich i have no problem with doing but the it guys hate that idea
[16:05] <gangsterlicious> i dont' get this sentence about landscape.... "Trials will be restricted to users who register 5 or more machines on the system. The free trial lasts for 60 days." is that means if i have less than 5 machines i can't sub to the service or it's totally free even after 60 days?
[16:05] <pavs> marco_ ok thanks for the confirmation.
[16:05] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  i find it supriseing they dont allready have the divx codec or a dozen other codecs allready installed..
[16:05] <DefineByte> Do you still need HDD initrd.gz/vmlinuz files?
[16:06] <dulak> grendal_prime: you can use mencoder to encode that to mpeg4v3 which is available on every version of windows since 95
[16:06] <grendal_prime> ya me to, but they dont.. aside from me and about 4 other guys(that are using new macbooks) it is an all ms house.
[16:06] <tuxx67> anyone have a launchpad account?
[16:06] <dr_willis> tell them too bad. :)
[16:06] <grendal_prime> dulak, ok can i use that with acidrip?
[16:06] <jlamsens> A client wants to know, if Ubuntu 8.04 LTS will work with 4 Quadcore CPU's. How can I know if Hardy will make use of those 4 CPU's with each 4 cores ? I do not find any info on that, except http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/list/?category=Server
[16:07] <MrPink-> joaopinto: no only one soundcard... and as I said sound in general is working (firefox, systemsounds etc.)
[16:07] <dulak> grendal_prime: no idea, mencoder is a command line encoder, never used acidrip
[16:07] <ldiamond> I'm looking for a fast mirror to DL 8.10... any around?
[16:07] <ldiamond> Or torrents?
[16:07] <dr_willis> ldiamond,  torrents are the way to go
[16:07] <Pici> !torrents | legend2440
[16:07] <ikonia> ldiamond: the repos will be under load at the moment,
[16:07] <A_I_> hello
[16:07] <emonkey> jlamsens, we've got an 8core server with 8.04 ... There is a special SMP kernel for such machines
[16:07] <Pici> ldiamond: see above
[16:07] <grendal_prime> I think acidrip is a front end for mplayer which i believe uses mencoder
[16:07] <ldiamond> Oh, I guess Poland is faster than US!
[16:08] <ikonia> emonkey: there shoulnd't be a special kernel for 8 core
[16:08] <ikonia> emonkey: 8 core is not big
[16:08] <A_I_> Is it possible to mount a partition twice on to different mount points ?
[16:08] <dr_willis> A_I_,  yes.
[16:08] <emonkey> ikonia, no not especially 8core just for multicore
[16:08] <dr_willis> A_I_,  not always a good idea however
[16:08] <^andrea^> hello everyone
[16:08] <A_I_> (like /mnt/disk and /home/user/mydisk)
[16:08] <jlamsens> Thanks emonkey; any idea where to find more info on that ? By the way: is your 8 core server on 2 CPU's ?
[16:08] <MrPink-> hmmm I have sound with "Movie Player" but not with any other player (Gxine / xine, VLC, Mplayer)
[16:08] <A_I_> dr_willis why ?
[16:08] <frozen_he> Hi people
[16:08] <ikonia> emonkey there isn't a special kernel for multi-core
[16:08] <MrPink-> any ideas?
[16:08] <ikonia> emonkey: the default kernel is smp aware
[16:08] <emonkey> jlamsens, yes 2CPU with 4cores
[16:08] <dr_willis> A_I_,  when you want tounmount them.. you need to rember to unmount them both.
[16:08] <dr_willis> A_I_,  if you need it somewhere else also.. use a soft link.
[16:09] <N0_Named_Guy> people, need help: my base-files package got damaged... And now I can't download any packages... Someone could help me on fixing this??
[16:09] <Cameron> one anoying thing about intrepid - the file choosers show different items in the places list for different applications
[16:09] <jlamsens> Emonkey and ikonia: so I understand that the default kernel is SMP aware, at least for 2 CPU's with 4 cores. But what about 4 CPU's with 4 cores ? Anyone a link; I want this on paper...
[16:09] <ziroday> N0_Named_Guy: what is the exact error, and are you on hardy or intrepid?
[16:10] <ikonia> jlamsens smp is fine for many cpu's with many cores
[16:10] <N0_Named_Guy> intrepid
[16:10] <^andrea^> which is a good program with a nice GUI to create .iso images?
[16:10] <levander> How came a make an e with one of those little accent marks over the top of it like they do in Spanish and Italian?
[16:10] <levander> Make that using the keyboard.
[16:10] <ikonia> jlamsens: you only need big iron kernels...for big irons
[16:10] <do1> am I connected?
[16:10] <ziroday> levander: using gnome-character-map
[16:10] <ikonia> do1: yes
[16:10] <do1> thanks
[16:10] <raevol> any have links to solutions for intrepid breaking xorg? usin nvidia drivers
[16:10] <pace_t_zulu> anyone having trouble witht he torrent?
[16:10] <emonkey> ikonia, looks you're right, there's no more SMP since a while ...
[16:10] <levander> ziroday: There's no keyboard short cut to do it?
[16:10] <ikonia> raevol are you using drivers from nvidia.com ?
[16:11] <MaxFrames> hello
[16:11] <ikonia> hi MaxFrames
[16:11] <raevol> ikonia, no was using restricted drivers from ubuntu
[16:11] <Pici> raevol: Did you read the release notes?
[16:11] <ikonia> raevol: and it broke your config ?
[16:11] <J_Man> Ikonia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:11] <levander> Is gnome-character-map available anywhere from the Ubuntu System menu on the taskbar at the top?
[16:11] <ikonia> J_Man: hi
[16:11] <ziroday> Hi, I can't seem to find a server to upgrade from hardy to intrepid
[16:11] <N0_Named_Guy> error:  subprocess post-instalation script returned error exit status 123
[16:11] <raevol> pici link?
[16:11] <Pici> raevol: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[16:11] <J_Man> You are a VERY hard man to get ahold of!
[16:11] <ziroday> levander: its in Applications > Accesories > Character Map
[16:11] <N0_Named_Guy> that is my error, ziroday
[16:11] <^andrea^> which is a good program for hardy with a nice GUI to create .iso images? anyone... pleasss
[16:12] <N0_Named_Guy> this happens when I try to upgrade
[16:12] <raevol> my x won't start, im at work atm but it just hung and then failed out with a "can't start x" error of sorts
[16:12] <ziroday> N0_Named_Guy: you can try do sudo apt-get remove base-files
[16:12] <N0_Named_Guy> ok
[16:12] <marco_> whats the name of the compiz configuration utility?
[16:12] <MaxFrames> LTS (long term support): "support" means being able to get (paid) assistance from Canonical or being able to get updates via update manager?
[16:12] <ziroday> !effects | marco
[16:12] <perhamlinux> hi guys
[16:12] <ziroday> marco_: woops wrong one
[16:13] <raevol> pici was using glx-new and got transferred to 177
[16:13] <ziroday> !ccsm | marco_
[16:13] <^andrea^> \me is thinking...
[16:13] <emonkey> ikonia, that's only for the server kernel or generally for alle kernel-images?
[16:13] <joaopinto> MaxFrames, LTS means getting updates from the update-manager for longer time
[16:13]  * ^andrea^ is thinking again...
[16:13] <perhamlinux> hi guys
[16:13] <ziroday> Hi, how do you upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[16:13] <marco_> thanks ziroday
[16:13] <perhamlinux> I have a problem with my disk
[16:13] <Pici> MaxFrames: Contact Canonical if you have a support contract with them regarding support timeframes
[16:13] <Pici> !upgrade | ziroday
[16:13] <ikonia> emonkey: general
[16:13] <do1> How does one type umlot, the two dots over an o or a in some languages in evolution ?
[16:13] <joaopinto> ziroday, www.ubuntu.com, check the upgrading link
[16:14] <plb> I'm trying to install ibex but install just sits at starting bluetooth..anyway around that?
[16:14] <ldiamond> Is it useful to get 64bit over 32bit version? Or will it only provide less stability?
[16:14] <MaxFrames> joaopinto: for how long is a non-LTS release supported?
[16:14] <emonkey> ikonia, hmk, thx for the info
[16:14] <pace_t_zulu> anyone trying to get the intrepid torrent?
[16:14] <Pici> MaxFrames: 18 months
[16:14] <MaxFrames> pace_t_zulu: yes, I am right now
[16:14] <N0_Named_Guy> her, ziroday, is it secure to remove base-files?? :S
[16:14] <deepfriedsquirre> I just had a problem with rsync: http://pastebin.com/d300efb3f
[16:14] <N0_Named_Guy> *er I mean rofl
[16:14] <pace_t_zulu> MaxFrames: I am unable to connect to any peers
[16:15] <levander> ziroday: I see the character in gnome-character-map, but there's no keyboard shortcut to do it?  I don't want to open up that application every time I want an e with an acute over it.
[16:15] <MaxFrames> are you using the torrent found on the official ubuntu website?
[16:15] <nite_johnboy> What is the biggest difference between doing a Wubi install in Windows - or - a install on a separate partition on hard drive ? ?
[16:15] <perhamlinux> when I open it with gparted, it says it has 2 TB, but it's a 500GB drive. also cfdisk says: "FATAL ERROR: cannot get the disk size" or something like that. fdisk says that it needs to know the number of cylenders.  I'm running everything as root. what's up here?!
[16:15] <ziroday> N0_Named_Guy: you will reinstall them after removing them, its to clear the error. You can also do sudo apt-get reinstall base-files but I am not so sure if that would work
[16:15] <Iduna> investigating
[16:15] <pace_t_zulu> MaxFrames: yes... and i also tried one off TPB ... but they are the same torrent
[16:15] <ziroday> levander: I am not sure about keyboard shortcuts, sorry
[16:15] <MaxFrames> pace_t_zulu: strange, I have no problems here
[16:15] <N0_Named_Guy> ziroday: but it is removing many important packages that depend on base-files, such as BASH :|
[16:16] <pace_t_zulu> must be my network
[16:16] <do1> lavender are you responding to umlot question?
[16:16] <MaxFrames> pace_t_zulu: tracker is http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[16:16] <plb> how can i disable starting bluetooth from the install cd? it keeps freezing at that part
[16:16] <Pici> !who
[16:16] <perhamlinux> any ideas?
[16:16] <Kruxer> i need ubuntu 8.10 DVD torrent fiel
[16:16] <Kruxer> *file
[16:16] <dr_willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:16] <Kruxer> cdimages.ubuntu.com doesn't open
[16:16] <flakrat> anyone know if Firestarter or some other firewall frontend is available or destined for 8.10?
[16:17] <Kruxer> i need
[16:17] <Kruxer> plz
[16:17] <Kruxer> :((
[16:17] <Pici> flakrat: Firestarter is in 8.10
[16:17] <dr_willis> Kruxer,  i just gave a url with them
[16:17] <N0_Named_Guy> well it seems that the best solution is to remove ubuntu, and reinstall it... :S
[16:17] <perhamlinux> any one?
[16:17] <Kruxer> dr_willis, can u send that to mr
[16:17] <ldiamond> Is it useful to get 64bit over 32bit version? Or will it only provide less stability?
[16:17] <Kruxer> e
[16:17] <dr_willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:17] <flakrat> Pici, really? I went to Synatpic and searched for firestarter and didn't find it. I'll look again
[16:17] <nite_johnboy> Which is best way to install - Wubi - or - Separate partition ??
[16:17] <flakrat> Pici, thanks
[16:17] <deepfriedsquirre> http://pastebin.com/d63f43a45 - helpy helpy
[16:18] <Kruxer> dr_willis, thanx
[16:18] <dr_willis> nite_johnboy,  dont use wubi if you can avoide it
[16:18] <Pici> !info firestarter | flakrat
[16:18] <piasdom> g'nite all
[16:18] <flakrat> Pici, got it, I hadn't chose "All available packages"
[16:19] <Gnea> nite_johnboy: it depends on your needs
[16:19] <N0_Named_Guy> just one question, are the alternate CD editions of Ubuntu 8.10 avaiable? :S
[16:19] <Kruxer> dr_willis, can you send that to me?
[16:19] <flakrat> s/chose/selected/
[16:20] <cloud-ieee> Does anyone know the command to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepix via terminal?
[16:20] <Gnea> nox-Hand: yes, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:20] <Gnea> N0_Named_Guy: yes http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:20] <nite_johnboy> dr_willis: Thanks - Have no problem setting up separate partition - That's way I've been doing it - Someone mentioned the "Wubi" install method and didn't even know about it.
[16:20] <Prometheus7777> hi, i have 8.10 RC, do i need to do anything (dist-upgrade) to make it 8.10 final?
[16:20] <dr_willis> nite_johnboy,  wubi is a pain. :)
[16:20] <N0_Named_Guy> Gnea: is there other way besides torrents?
[16:21] <karab44_> how to use friendly recovery?
[16:21] <dr_willis> Im getting faster speeds on the torrents right now todya, theni have EVER gotten on ftp downloads
[16:21] <dr_willis> :)
[16:21] <Gnea> N0_Named_Guy: everybody's trying to download it, it's current the fastest way
[16:21] <N0_Named_Guy> ok
[16:21] <N0_Named_Guy> thx
[16:21] <Gnea> *currently
[16:21] <nite_johnboy> dr_willis: What do you use for your IRC client?
[16:21] <karab44_> I've deleted data on my ntfs (win xp) partition
[16:21] <dr_willis> nite_johnboy,  i use xchat under windows and linux
[16:21] <raevol> pici, ikonia, i'll mess with it when i get home thanks for the help
[16:21] <Roky> Does ubuntu 8.10 support 3d effects and such for ati yet?
[16:21] <sbc> Shouldn't the countdown banner be updated? Still says "coming soon" http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[16:21] <nite_johnboy> dr_willis: are you running Fluxbox?
[16:21] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm trying to use the instructions here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/15/ubuntu-toram-how-to-make-ubuntu-boot-to-ram/ to fix the toram option, but I failed, as is shown here: http://pastebin.com/d63f43a45
[16:22] <dr_willis> Rockj,  the fglrx drivers  work under 8.10
[16:22] <dr_willis> nite_johnboy,  nope.
[16:22] <addicted68098> Is the open NV driver any good? Not big into 3d but youtube is a must?
[16:22] <icqnumber> N0_Named_Guy, yes, you can use metalink files, go for the aria2c application, the fastest way to download something
[16:22] <N0_Named_Guy> thx icqnjumber
[16:22] <nite_johnboy> dr_willis: Mind asking what desktop - ? KDE ?
[16:22] <N0_Named_Guy> thx icqnumber
[16:23] <dr_willis> nite_johnboy,  using gnome for the tinme being.. or JWM+Rox-filer
[16:23] <Roky> dr_willis: For the newer 4800 series cards as well?
[16:23] <eitreach> I'm running Ibex and can't enable Compiz, even though I have installed the 177 driver. Even starnger it seems as if I have composite shadows already.
[16:23] <dr_willis> Roky,  no idea.  I avoide ati.. i got 1 laptop with an ati card and it worked.
[16:24] <addicted68098> Will I still be able to use desktop effects after I ditch the proprietary Nvidia driver for the open one?
[16:24] <Roky> dr_willis: hmm yeah I tried installing 8.10 from amd's website but I get an error after I run the installer
[16:25] <cloud-ieee> Is there a built in back up feature in Hardy? I would to backup my system before upgrading to 8.10. If not can anyone recommend a good backup app?
[16:25] <dr_willis> Roky,  i never use the packagtes from the ati sites.. i alwyas use whats in the repos
[16:25] <ldiamond> Why is the 64bit version named "amd64", intel also has 64bit...?
[16:25] <nite_johnboy> dr_willis: Yea last install got warmed up to Gnome - like it best so far as well - Run Flux to as well sometimes (Fast as a speeding bullet...) Thanks for info on best install method - had a hunch partition was best for me ?
[16:25] <unstable> I have a hard disk, and it has encrypted hardy on it(default settings from alternative install), I'm on ibex now..how can I mount this hardy file system from ibex?
[16:26] <unstable> I look in /dev/mapper, and I don't see anything...
[16:26] <legend2440> are they reassigning irc channels or something? in xchat i try Network>Channels and xchat freezes and i have to restart xchat  /join <channel> works though
[16:26] <unstable> What is the default device name in /dev/mapper for hardy?
[16:26] <vbabiy> How could I set up my interface in ubuntu to use DHCP for IP  and use DNS server that I specify here is my interfaces config : http://paste2.org/p/94482
[16:27] <nite_johnboy> Where is best website to visit to find out major differences between Intrepid & Hardy ?
[16:27] <philippe_> ldiamond, I am pretty sure it is compatible with both Intel and AMD 64 bits architecture. I am currently running the amd64 release on my core 2 duo with no problem
[16:27] <ldiamond> Well, I know that, but why name it AMD64?
[16:27] <jovaro> hello all, my keyboard layout is all wrong after upgrading to 8.10. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:28] <jovaro> I tried to edit the settings in the keyboard thingie in the settings menu, but without succes
[16:28] <Roky> dr_willis: I found the only available drivers in repos but they sar there already installed, yet I still can't get any kind of eyecandy running at all heh
[16:28] <philippe_> ldiamond, maybe they are both intercompatible but ubuntu has to choose one or the other
[16:28] <Pici> ldiamond: Because the specification is by AMD and Intel follows it for their consumer 64bit cards, as opposed to the Itanium 64bit spec.
[16:29] <ldiamond> ty
[16:29] <lungren> i have virtual box and i already have xp dual-booted on my computer.  can i use that xp already on here or do i have to install xp again after getting virtualbox?
[16:30] <aLeSD_> hi all
[16:30] <Pici> ldiamond: Looks like the wiki page says the same thing too (but with lots more info) if you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[16:30] <jovaro> hello all, my keyboard layout is all wrong after upgrading to 8.10. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:30] <philippe_> lungren, you have to install XP again in your VirtualBox. Virtualisation and dual booting is two thing
[16:30] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm trying to use the instructions here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/15/ubuntu-toram-how-to-make-ubuntu-boot-to-ram/ to fix the toram option, but I failed, as is shown here: http://pastebin.com/d63f43a45
[16:30] <Lunks> Yeah, it's a party. :D
[16:31] <aLeSD_> networkmanager locks my network kernel modules ... I 'd like to disable it and set a dhcp client by hands ... is it possible ?
[16:31] <Lequtix> hi
[16:31] <marco_> is there a program that can display a signal from s-video source?
[16:31] <jovaro> my arrow keys stopped working after upgrading .... very annoying
[16:31] <Lequtix> i have a question.. i'm running 8.10 RC..  if i update the system will it be the same as just installing the released 8.10?
[16:31] <woz> guten tag shalome aloha hi
[16:32] <jovaro> Lequtix, yes
[16:32] <Lequtix> ok great
[16:32] <Lequtix> so i don't have to reinstall
[16:32] <jovaro> no
[16:32] <smp4488> i am trying to access a share on my ubuntu box from ex and im getting an error saying that the server is not accessible
[16:32] <lungren> philippe:  thanks
[16:32] <Lequtix> u have the firewall on smp4488?
[16:32] <Lequtix> can your ex ping the file server?
[16:32] <smp4488> on the xp or ubuntu box?
[16:33] <jovaro> is it possible to force ubuntu to use the info in xorg.conf?
[16:33] <Lequtix> ubuntu
[16:33] <smp4488> i believe what do i have to open up?
[16:34] <Lequtix> is it a default installation or did you manually enable the firewall
[16:34] <Lequtix> if it's default install.. firewall isn't on
[16:34] <smp4488> its a default install
[16:34] <Lequtix> can u ping the ubuntu box from the xp box?
[16:34] <smp4488> yes i can
[16:35] <Lequtix> whast ubuntu box's ip?
[16:35] <smp4488> 192.168.1.112
[16:35] <gian__> help
[16:35] <Lequtix> on the xp box.. open up the RUN (start/run)
[16:35] <Lequtix> type in \\192.168.1.112
[16:35] <gian__> there are italians?????
[16:35] <Lequtix> it should ask u for password
[16:35] <Pici> !it | gian__
[16:35] <N_Nick> hey guys just installed interpid on a macbook pro but i made a mistake while installing grub and now i cant boot it. i cant find grub.conf under /boot to edit it while using the live cd. why is that?
[16:35] <gian__> pici..
[16:35] <smp4488> i get syntax is incorrect
[16:36] <Pici> gian__: /join #ubuntu-it
[16:36] <lungren> does anybody know what i would have to do to play windows games on ubuntu?  wine doesnt work.  my friend told me something about using winehq appdb but i didnt see anythign there that helped me
[16:36] <kri> hi, it seems i cant run audacious at the same time as wine? why is it so?
[16:36] <pavs> Anyone NOT happy with ibex? I did a clean install and it's flickering and seems slower than 8.04. I used te RC though, which should be the same as the final release.
[16:36] <GibbaTheHutt> lungren, can you give a bit more info about "wine doesn't work"
[16:36] <juniecho> hi, i'm using a tablet pc (hp tx2015au), i want to disable touchscreen feature(finger touch) while keeping the stylus pen functioning, don't know how. please help. ubuntu 8.04 x86 version.
[16:36] <gyven> N_Nick: you will need to mount your local disk, and then browse to the /boot/ section of that drive, the /boot section you are looking at is most likely the live CD's
[16:36] <lungren> it doesnt run the games
[16:36] <bpgoldsb> Does anyone know a good howto for setting up a local package mirror for a bunch of ubuntu servers?
[16:36] <Jeruvy> lungren: wine works fine.
[16:37] <jordan> n
[16:37] <GibbaTheHutt> lungren, games that say they work in wine ?
[16:37] <Tcl> troubled: remember about freez ?(meanmachine) well i find it why...is the damn ventilator on V. card is broken so is getting hut :)
[16:37] <ikonia> juniecho: the pen normally works off the touchscreen
[16:37] <jordan> do you speak french ???
[16:37] <ikonia> juniecho: if you disable the touchscren the pen will probably fail
[16:37] <Tryfon> hi I have an ACER 5920G and am having some problems with my keyboard some keys dont work properly any recommendations?
[16:37] <lungren> GibbaTheHutt: games will say that but i go to open them and it changes the resolution and then quits out
[16:37] <ikonia> !fr > jordan
[16:37] <Prez00> this is odd, on 8.10 compiz does not show the windo frames, i have intel  Mobile GM965/GL960, i think i did something on 8.04 to prevent checks or something..
[16:37] <mker> Why doesn't Terminal auto-complete commands and such with tab? Let's say I want to write "sudo aptitude install mpl" and I want to see all the stuff that start with mpl, it doesn't do that anymore. It used to but not now. (using intrepid amd64)
[16:37] <GibbaTheHutt> lungren, try one from the console and see waht error it gives
[16:37] <jordan> yes i see this message ...
[16:38] <kri> Jeruvy: wine works fine? i cant get audacious to run at the same time as wine... how do i listen to music and playing poker with wine at the same time?
[16:38] <ikonia> mker: mpl is not a command
[16:38] <lungren> GibbaTheHutt: what do you mean try it from the console?
[16:38] <GibbaTheHutt> pregier, try changing from human theme if using that and see if it helps
[16:38] <N_Nick> gyven: i thought so, but cant get the mount command right. mount /boot /dir would point at the live cd /boot as well right?
[16:38] <ikonia> mker: it's command agrument, bash knowns nothing about command arguments
[16:38] <juniecho> ikonia//in windows vista, i could disable touchscreen without disabling stylus pen, i believe i can do that with ubuntu too
[16:38] <mker> ikonia: ok but you know what I mean. it doesn't autocomplete anymore, it used to in the past.
[16:38] <ikonia> juniecho: I've no idea how your tablet works, I'm just giving you the norm
[16:39] <xen0blade> I haven't even been able to get NWN to run on Ubuntu 7.10  Haven't tried it yet on 8.04 or Ibex.  Any games in particular you are trying to run?
[16:39] <speedy> I'm trying to upgrade to intrepid ibex, using update manager, when i click on upgrade i get a message saying authentication failed authenticating the upgrade failed. there may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[16:39] <astra-xwork> Is there an official gui for systems administration ie similar to what is on sles or red hat?
[16:39] <juniecho> and is ubuntu 8.10 out now?
[16:39] <ikonia> astra-xwork: things like user manager ?
[16:39] <Pici> juniecho: yes, /topic
[16:39] <ikonia> juniecho: yuip
[16:39] <mker> And if I type "apti" it autocompletes to "aptitude" but not if I type "sudo apti", then it doesn't do anything.
[16:39] <erUSUL> lungren: well not all games work only those listed as platinum or maybe gold. aapdb just show you
[16:40] <juniecho> pici, ikonia//thanks, how do i upgrade automatically? do i have to reformat and reinstall from the ground?
[16:40] <Andy80> just a quick question: if I find any bug in Ubuntu 8.10, and the bug is relative to a particular application (for example Pidgin), do I have to submit the bug to Pidgin team or can I use the launchpad website, ecc....?
[16:40] <ikonia> mker: the command is sudo - the rest is an arguemtn
[16:40] <Pici> lungren: #winehq can help you get specific applications running under wine.
[16:40] <NeowiN> Hey i try to install new ubuntu but i get file error
[16:40] <NeowiN> can i please get som help
[16:40] <lungren> erUSUL: it says platinum for battlefield 2 but it goes to open (flashes black and quits)
[16:40] <mker> ikonia: Whatever it is it doesn't autocomplete!
[16:41] <farhad_hf> is ubuntu 8.10 using opensource nvidia driver?
[16:41] <Tundrayeti312> !ask | NeowiN
[16:41] <ikonia> mker it's not going to
[16:41] <DASPRiD> pretty easy upgrade this time
[16:41] <mker> ikonia: It used to.
[16:41] <lungren> Pici: how can i get get those specific apps working?
[16:41] <farhad_hf> nouveau
[16:41] <ikonia> mker: are you %100
[16:41] <Prometheanfire_> de.net
[16:41] <Roky> Hey, I have a problem with compiz fusion, I have all my ATI drivers installed, And all my compiz installed, But when I try to enable my visual effects, I get an error saying "desktop effects could not be enabled" anyone have any ideas?
[16:41] <erUSUL> lungren: tried lastest wine? from http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[16:41] <rotorhead1> hi there! one question: I've participated in the 8.10 RC1 test and would like to update to the official 8.10 release. what's the easiest way to do this?
[16:41] <DASPRiD> farhad_hf, no
[16:41] <kri> nothing seems to work to play for me when wine is on
[16:41] <ikonia> rotorhead1: you can update using the repo's or re-install
[16:41] <Tundrayeti312> lungren: did u get them to work before?
[16:41] <erUSUL> lungren: wine is an app that changes very often and is worth it to add its repo
[16:42] <lungren> erUSUL: i think i have it.  only got it like a month ago
[16:42] <kri> not watching movie file or music file?
[16:42] <lungren> ive never had my games working but my friend did
[16:42] <farhad_hf> tnx
[16:42] <DASPRiD> didn't they want to include open office 3.0 in 8.10?
[16:42] <mker> ikonia: Yes, back when I used 7.10 I think it was. I used to press tab to see all the packages starting with for example "freeci" and get all freeciv-packages. It disappeared in 8.04, I was hoping to get it back now but nope.
[16:42] <lungren> i havent been able to get detailed instructions from him
[16:42] <gyven> N_Nick: I'd do a dmesg | grep sda (or hda if no results return) and then mount the listed drive using mount /dev/xxx /xxx
[16:42] <atlef> rotorhead1: if you just update your machine all is ok
[16:42] <Pici> DASPRiD: It was not released in time to make it into the release.
[16:42] <juniecho> how do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10? no automatic upgrade?
[16:42] <pur-angst> good
[16:42] <Pici> !upgrade | juniecho
[16:42] <erUSUL> lungren: all i can add is the guild wars works for me ...
[16:42] <DASPRiD> Pici, i c
[16:43] <Tundrayeti312> lungren: than i would suggest trying #winehq, checing their site fore general setup info, and specific bugs for the games ur using
[16:43] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Anyone know a good download link for Intrepid - Located in California, US  ? ?
[16:43] <BoltClock> i have a proprietary nvidia driver and my pc runs on a geforce7100 chip. should i get intrepid? i heard x.org 7.4 doesnt work with it
[16:43] <lungren> thanks!
[16:43] <Roky> Hey, I have a problem with compiz fusion, I have all my ATI drivers installed, And all my compiz installed, But when I try to enable my visual effects, I get an error saying "desktop effects could not be enabled" anyone have any ideas?
[16:43] <Pici> nite_johnboy: The download page has links to local mirrors, just use that.
[16:43] <atlef> nite_johnboy: why not use torrent
[16:43] <Gnea> nite_johnboy: hop on the torrent and go to lunch: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:44] <mker> juniecho: go into software sources -> updates and change it to normal releases at the bottom.
[16:44] <speedy> I'm trying to upgrade to intrepid ibex, using update manager, when i click on upgrade i get a message saying authentication failed authenticating the upgrade failed. there may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[16:44] <jovaro> my keyboard layout got wrong after the upgrade, arrow keys are not working anymore eg. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:44] <paul68> if I run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get everything is up to date without upgrading to 8.10
[16:44] <mrbig4545> hey guys
[16:44] <amro85> any one here tried ubuntu 8.10
[16:44] <mrbig4545> i have a radeon card
[16:44] <mrbig4545> i was using the fglrx driver
[16:44] <Pici> paul68: dist-upgrade does not upgrade between releases.
[16:44] <Pici> !upgrade > paul68
[16:44] <atlef> amro85: yes
[16:44] <mker> amro85: yeah, it's nice.
[16:44] <Roky> yeah, trying to get compiz working on it
[16:44] <Pici> !anyme | amro85
[16:44] <mrbig4545> but its fully supported by the opensource driver
[16:44] <erUSUL> paul68: dist-upgrade does not do what you think it does... use the update-manager
[16:44] <erUSUL> !upgrade | paul68
[16:44] <mrbig4545> so i need to repalce the ati glx libaries with the mesa ones
[16:45] <juniecho> thanks pici
[16:45] <amro85> so what about boot speed improvement
[16:45] <mrbig4545> how do i accomlish this?
[16:45] <juniecho> thanks mker
[16:45] <Roky> Hey, I have a problem with compiz fusion, I have all my ATI drivers installed, And all my compiz installed, But when I try to enable my visual effects, I get an error saying "desktop effects could not be enabled" anyone have any ideas?
[16:45] <nite_johnboy> Gnea: Thanks - might go faster here....
[16:45] <Pici> Roky: What video card?
[16:45] <Roky> ati radion 4850
[16:45] <juniecho> and one simple question, i have some component updates including kernel update, do i need to update those before i upgrade to 8.10?
[16:46] <Roky> ati radeon* 4850
[16:46] <mrbig4545> Roky: run compiz from the command line
[16:46] <mrbig4545> it will give you a reason
[16:46] <amro85> Pici, what is boot speed guys
[16:46] <BoltClock> i have a proprietary nvidia driver and my pc runs on a geforce7100 chip. should i get intrepid? i heard x.org 7.4 doesnt work with it. im using the update manager
[16:46] <N_Nick> gyven: thanks for the info mate, figured it out
[16:46] <jubesz> installing intrepid server and getting "debootstrap error" during ubuntu core install... I ran memtest and verified the CD.
[16:46] <Roky> mrbig4545: how?
[16:46] <gyven> N_Nick: No problem, good luck!
[16:46] <mrbig4545> open a command line
[16:46] <mrbig4545> gnome-terminal
[16:46] <mrbig4545> then run, compiz
[16:47] <RyanPrior> BoltClock: If you are happily running Hardy right now and aren't desperately in need of new features, you'd be just as well holding off for awhile.
[16:47] <amro85> pleae can any one here post boot time
[16:47] <gian__> .,
[16:47] <mker> BoltClock: Where did you hear that?
[16:47] <Pici> Roky: That should be supported by fglrx, did you use the Hardware Drivers tool to install your drivers?
[16:47] <bigfox> BoltClock: try booting it off the live disk to see if it works.
[16:47] <mrbig4545> jubesz: why are you running beta software on a server?
[16:47] <mrbig4545> thats asking for trouble
[16:47] <amro85> pleae can any one here post boot time
[16:47] <jubesz> it's the official release of 8.10 server
[16:47] <BoltClock> mker: release notes
[16:47] <zero> hey, i updated to 8.10 and now i dont see the launcher for cairo dock!
[16:47] <Roky> Pici: what do you mean? Forgive me, but I'm new to ubuntu
[16:48] <BoltClock> RyanPrior: hmm... i dunno actually
[16:48] <RyanPrior> mrbig4545: 8.10 is officially released now. Beta no more. =P
[16:48] <mrbig4545> jubesz: yeah but its just released, stick with something more stable
[16:48] <piko_water> hi
[16:48] <mrbig4545> tried and tested
[16:48] <bioe007> hi piko_water
[16:48] <Gnea> amro85: don't have that information yet
[16:48] <jubesz> mrbig4545: like BSD?
[16:48] <Guest71130> hey anyone know where my cairo dock went?
[16:48] <mrbig4545> or even hardy for a while
[16:48] <bigfox> Is anybody else still having problem in 64 bit where it detects all joysticks as mice?
[16:48] <mrbig4545> give it time to settle
[16:48] <piko_water> i am trying to create a username password for samba user but getting error message "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>"
[16:49] <juniecho> i use 8.04 right now, and i'm going to upgrade to 8.10. i have several component updates available right now, including apt, kernel, etc... do i need to apply these updates before i upgrade to 8.10?
[16:49] <RyanPrior> jubesz: if you can give some more information, that might be helpful. Did previous versions of Ubuntu install okay?
[16:49] <piko_water> oh sorry,  "Failed to modify  password entry for the usernamew"
[16:49] <bahadunn> on 8.10 now
[16:49] <bahadunn> pretty nice
[16:49] <atlef> juniecho: yes
[16:49] <Guest71130> hey, please someone hepl me get Cairo back
[16:49] <geremy> hey all, having trouble logging in on intrepid after clean install, goes through the gdm login and then appears to simply sit and wait with no disk reads and very low cpu utilisation
[16:49] <mrbig4545> but doe anyone know how to kill fglrx's glx libaries and repalce them with the mesa ones?
[16:49] <RyanPrior> juniecho: Yes, your system should be fully up-to-date before you dist-upgrade.
[16:49] <mrbig4545> its easy in gentoo...
[16:50] <juniecho> atler, ryanprior// thanks
[16:50] <jubesz> mrbig4545: server HAD hardy, on an AMD 64.  Mobo busted caps. Could only find a 32bit intel to replace it with, so I have to reinstall.  I thought I should use the latest 'stable' virsion.
[16:50] <Pici> Roky: System>Administration>Hardware Drivers   I need to run for a bit, but the rest of the channel should be able to help you if you still need it
[16:50] <hotbuntu> i like to come here and just drop some 1337 distro names so i an sound k001
[16:50] <nite_johnboy> Gnea: Cranked up uTorrent under Wine - It's going allot faster - Thanks again for download tip - appreciate it.
[16:50] <juak> bahadunn: any problems? is it behaving allright? i'm about to install it on my machine
[16:50] <Roky> thank you
[16:50] <hotbuntu> hmm.. i put the 8.1 cd in my toaster and it wont boot
[16:50] <mrbig4545> jubesz: they might say its stable, but dont believe them! not yet, its still too new!
[16:50] <ody> Hi all, is ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img suitable for eee pc 900?
[16:50] <jubesz> RyanPrior: prior install worked fine ( but it was a different motherboard)
[16:50] <Gnea> nite_johnboy: cheers
[16:50] <Roky> it says no proprietary drivers arein use?
[16:51] <mrbig4545> jubesz: but that just my opinion
[16:51] <geremy> ody: I got it to work, but the interface was not my favorite
[16:51] <RyanPrior> jubesz: Do other operating systems install okay on that particular motherboard?
[16:51] <amro85> any one here can report if u\itrepid can boot faster than hardy
[16:51] <Prez00> when I activate compiz on 8.10 i get no window frames...Intel GM965/GL960
[16:51] <piko_water> any body can help me with setting up samba server
[16:51] <ody> geremy: Does it work out of the box, or do you need special configuration to make all the hardware work?
[16:52] <juniecho> Gnea//hi, last time i could almost fully customize my laptop, thanks to you. thanks again
[16:52] <jubesz> RyanPrior: I was running hardy i386 on it before.  The problem seems to be with the install CD, but there are no defects (md5 verified)
[16:52] <dug_> hotbuntu: does it even start to boot?  if not, try holding down the f key the bios says to hold down, or go into the bios itself and change the boot order of devices
[16:52] <geremy> ody: took me a while to get it to work
[16:52] <ody> geremy: ok thanks alot.
[16:52] <atlef> amro85: some have reported it to be faster, but phoronix have a full test : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_bench_2008&num=1
[16:52] <mrbig4545> nm, i found it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:52] <geremy> ody: i've got a walkthrough if you want it
[16:52] <Gnea> juniecho: you're welcome
[16:52] <porter1> Anyone know why my dual core machine isn't showing both cpus in the system monitor?
[16:52] <RyanPrior> jubesz: Have you tried just burning a second CD? Failing that, how about a netboot?
[16:52] <mrbig4545> does any one know how to make gdm run a script jsut after it starts
[16:52] <mrbig4545> ?
[16:52] <legend2440> Roky: is there a box to check to enable the ati drivers?
[16:52] <leohartx> anyone know how to install an audio driver ?
[16:53] <geremy> having a problem logging in on intrepid after clean install, goes through the gdm login and then appears to simply sit and wait with no disk reads and very low cpu utilisation- any ideas?
[16:53] <Roky> legend2440: no there is not
[16:53] <memeemeee> I need help connecting to my router through static ip
[16:53] <mikebeecham> I installed 8.04 the other night...it is worth upgrading to 8.10 yet?
[16:53] <Gnea> leohartx: there's a process to that
[16:53] <Prez00> why would my window frames be missing, where can I check, the compiz effects work.. but window frames are gone..
[16:53] <hotbuntu> dug_: k, im a bit worried cuz it gets very hot
[16:53] <nite_johnboy> Gnea: Same to you - Biggest reason for me on Intrepid is Hardware, Hardware, Hardware - Know what I mean ?
[16:53] <jubesz> RyanPrior: I am currently burning a second CD using the slowest possible burn speed.  But the first CD i made also passed the CD verification test
[16:53] <Gnea> !sound | leohartx
[16:53] <dug_> mikebeecham: sure, run update-manager -d
[16:53] <legend2440> Roky: hardy or intrepid?
[16:53] <mker> mikebeecham: sure, it's pretty nice.
[16:53] <Roky> legend2440L intrepid
[16:54] <Roky> legend2440: intrepid
[16:54] <mikebeecham> dug_: mker I'm a 2 day user of Linux...would it be better to stay stable, or are the bugs going to be negligible?
[16:54] <ganesh> ﻿ from can i get ubuntu 8.10 dvd version for download
[16:54] <jubesz> Does the Alternate Install CD allow an internet-download installation?
[16:55] <KJee8> I know on the main page it tells you how to update from 8.0.4 to Ibex but is there anything special other then running update manager to update to the release of Ibex from the beta?
[16:55] <mker> mikebeecham: well I haven't noticed any bugs so far (after using it for several minutes :) ) but I don't *think* there's anything to worry about.
[16:55] <dug_> mikebeecham: since you only installed it a few days ago, better to upgrade now before you get too established and run into a problem later :)  intrepid should run fine, although you may have to renable wireless
[16:55] <legend2440> Roky: i have  ati radeon 9600 and these instructions worked for me to get fglrx drivers working  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#The_open_source_drivers
[16:55] <JC_Denton_> can I upgrade using the update-manager as per usual
[16:55] <Pici> !finale | KJee8 nope, thats it
[16:55] <Gnea> nite_johnboy: well, once the brunt of the download storm is over, we'll start hearing about a lot of those issues and trying to fix them
[16:55] <erUSUL> !minimal  | jubesz
[16:55] <Gnea> d'oh
[16:55] <mr_polite> gnome-do runs on start up but does not respond until restrted on my user.
[16:55] <mikebeecham> dug_: dont run wireless :D
[16:55] <dug_> JC_Denton_: run update-manager -d
[16:55] <mr_polite> it seems to run just fine for other users though
[16:56] <jordan> Mr sarkozy
[16:56] <juniecho> gnea// sorry again, but do you know what should i do to disable touchscreen? of course, i want to keep my stylus pen on, just want to turn off the touchscreen(finger touch)
[16:56] <atlef> KJee8: just do an update
[16:56] <JC_Denton_> dug_: ty. How come it's not standard anymore
[16:56] <RyanPrior> jubesz: Yeah, a CD passing the test shouldn't be a problem, which is why I'm not real sure where to go from here. If that second CD doesn't work, try netbooting; if that doesn't work, we'll know it's not a problem with the install medium.
[16:56] <ganesh> ﻿from can i get ubuntu 8.10 dvd version for download
[16:56] <leohartx> thank you all, i can manage it now
[16:56] <dug_> JC_Denton_: the -d flag lets you upgrade the operating system before the final release has occurred (won't be til tomorrow)
[16:56] <tofu> Don't Chimp out on me baby
[16:56] <mikebeecham> well...here goes then!!!
[16:56] <jubesz> RyanPrior: By 'netbooting' do you mean to use the minimal cd?
[16:57] <tofu> My Windows Vista broke
[16:57] <mikebeecham> can I easily downgrade if anything goes wrong?
[16:57] <JC_Denton_> dug_:  does that mean I'll be install ing the beta
[16:57] <tofu> I hate Microsoft for selling a crummy os
[16:57] <Rob> Does Xubuntu need to connect to the internet when installing?
[16:57] <dug_> mikebeecham: no you can't downgrade
[16:57] <Gnea> juniecho: what system was that again?
[16:57] <cyphase> is there a way to make a certain process not use swap memory?
[16:57] <tofu> Ubuntu is making strides against Microsoft
[16:57] <mikebeecham> dug_: thanks....see you on the other side :D
[16:57] <dug_> mikebeecham: but you only have been running it a few days.  if you want you can backup first using something like sbackup or partimage
[16:57] <erUSUL> !ot | tofu
[16:57] <juniecho> tx2015au tablet pc, with touchscreen+stylus (both)
[16:57] <adib> hi
[16:57] <kevor> hello, i've no sound in Rhythmbox, got sound in VLC though
[16:58] <Rob> Does Xubuntu need to connect to the internet when installing?
[16:58] <adib> how can i test my gsm modem on ubuntu?
[16:58] <Maahes> how do I enter suspend without running gnome? suspend (the cli command) seems to do nothing
[16:58] <RyanPrior> !netboot | jubesz
[16:58] <Gnea> tofu: there's a much more receptive audience for that discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:58] <Maahes> I'm running gnome-settings-daemon though
[16:58] <adib> adib, how can i test my gsm modem on ubuntu?
[16:58] <tofu> Gnea:okay
[16:58] <juniecho> tofu//if you can at least boot into windows vista, try sfc /scannow to repair system files
[16:58] <ganesh> isdvd version available for download?
[16:59] <tofu> Please I want to burn Windows Vista right now
[16:59] <Pici> !dvdiso | ganesh
[16:59] <titon> with Intrepid Ibex is there still the nvidia problem or will it work with my geforce go laptop card?
[16:59] <zzzzzz> hello, I am using ibm thinkpad 61
[16:59] <adib> any body....
[16:59] <zzzzzz> not sure what's wrong, but after I upgraded to 8.10 today
[16:59] <juniecho> tofu//if you cannot boot into windows, insert your windows vista cd, and use recovery option - it works great, you won't believe that thing is from microsoft.
[16:59] <zzzzzz> my arrow key no longer worked
[16:59] <Tundrayeti312> adib: get a hold of a live cd and boot from that into ubuntu and test
[16:59] <zenlinuxNH> Happy Intrepid Ibex release day! And thank you to everyone involved in getting this release out.
[16:59] <tofu> Thank God I ordered a Ubuntu Linux CD weeks before MS Vista endless reboots
[17:00] <Gnea> tofu: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:00] <tofu> juniecho, I have done all of that everytime you update MS garbage OS it takes a long time for your computer to start
[17:00] <Rob> Does Xubuntu need to connect to the internet when installing?
[17:00] <tofu> Gnea, Thanks you but I am responding to a question
[17:00] <scarface> Rob, no internet is not required for install
[17:00] <Gnea> tofu: that's fine, just take the vista discussion elsewhere
[17:01] <joaopinto> Rob, no, it does not
[17:01] <Rob> scarface, thanks...on Xubuntu I get an error at 6% :(
[17:01] <tofu> The Computer I am using is an HP Pavillion 9410us
[17:01] <Guest87319> Hello, I would like to know if kubuntu 8.10 includes the e1000e kernel bug fix ?
[17:01] <scarface> Rob, what error?
[17:01] <Pici> Guest87319: It does indeed.
[17:01] <legend2440> Rob: if your using cd you can install but you need internet to do updates after install
[17:01] <juniecho> tofu, gnea// sorry for being a bit off-topic, anyway, i actually dual-boot, but both vista and ubuntu works very fine even after vista updates. anyway...
[17:01] <titon> the grafik wont work for nvidia?
[17:01] <JInTheOffice> I've mostly recovered from the kernel upgrade (screen driver problems and -- for some bizarre reason -- loss of my Firefox profile). I'd like to know, going forward, how to avoid similar issues in the future. Obviously simply OK'ing any updates so that I can stay current doesn't work out well. What should I check and where should I check it, before clicking that update button?
[17:02] <tofu> Ubuntu recognized most of the hardware except for the wifi card which I configured following online documents
[17:02] <Rob> scarface: at 6%...I get "Warning: file:///cdrom/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-rubtine_0.99.7.1-5ubunut1_all.deb was corupt"
[17:02] <tofu> Ubuntu actually runs better on my PC than Vista ever did
[17:02] <juniecho> tofu// are you using broadcom?? :)
[17:02] <tofu> juniecho, Yes I am using a Broadcom Wifi Card
[17:02] <titon> nvidia?
[17:02] <scarface> Rob, use the option to "check cd for defects" at the first boot screen
[17:02] <titon> will it mess up my compiz fusion?
[17:03] <juniecho> i had a terrible experience with broadcom wifi card, you need to first update the kernel and use fwcutter.
[17:03] <tofu> Everyone should have a copy of Ubuntu
[17:03] <scarface> Rob, frequently you will have to burn the CD at the slowest possible speed to ensure that it burns accurately
[17:03] <tofu> I can't believe my HP All in One printer worked perfectly out of the box with Ubuntu
[17:03] <juniecho> tofu// well your first step is to update the kernel, yeah, and use synaptic to install fwcutter
[17:03] <Rob> scarface: i did the lowest speed possible in the options
[17:03] <dug_> tofu: yeah i've got a game that stopped working well when i upgraded to vista, but works fine in wine in ubuntu
[17:04] <juniecho> tofu//when you install that thing, it will probably ask you to download some firmware i suppose,
[17:04] <Guest87319> Guys, what about e1000e kernel bug fix, is it included in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:04] <tofu> dug_, Vista is broken MS wont inform the people
[17:04] <atlef> Guest87319: yes
[17:04] <titon> will upgrading to 8.10 messup my compis-fusion since i use the nvidia driver?
[17:04] <Tundrayeti312> JInTheOffice: It is a bit of a risk... Sometimes software/updates have bugs in them and they cannot ALWAYS be avoided... you can look at the updates, check the forums, ask in IRC, there really isn't an answer to your question im afraid
[17:04] <ikonia> tofu please don't be silly
[17:04] <juniecho> tofu//install all of those and you'll get your wifi running, with restricted driver set
[17:04] <scarface> Rob, try the "check cd for defects" then to confirm if it burned ok.  You may also want to try another brand of CD, or install from USB.
[17:04] <tofu> When your Vista Comp takes 2 hours to boot something is wrong
[17:05] <erUSUL> tofu: would you stop the offtopic about vista anytime soon?
[17:05] <erUSUL> tofu: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <juniecho> and can someone please teach me about disabling touchscreen? :)
[17:05] <Pici> tofu: or ##windows
[17:05] <Rob> Scarface: cheers
[17:05] <titon> will upgrading to 8.10 messup my compis-fusion since i use the nvidia driver?
[17:05] <ikonia> titon do you use teh driver from nvidai.com ?
[17:05] <ikonia> nvidia.com
[17:05] <amro85> i think i leave ubuntu every release is slower than the prevoius one i might think of other distro or return to windows
[17:05] <titon> nop i used envys
[17:06] <JInTheOffice> Tundrayeti312, thanks
[17:06] <kestaz_> i installed -rc upgraded to latest .. and i don't see theme anymore ??
[17:06] <atlef> amro85: good for you
[17:06] <tofu> Dell and HP are selling mini notebook pc's with Linux on them
[17:06] <titon> ikonia, i use the once that was installed with envy
[17:06] <tofu> for under $400.00
[17:06] <amro85> bye guys nice to c u all i had fun with linux but now i am bored of slugish os i get
[17:06] <juniecho> i usually take note with my stylus pen, with my palm on the screen, and every time it behaves unexpectedly because of palm pressure, so how should i disable this touchscreen?
[17:06] <JuJuBee> What problem might this suggest?  kernel: [15461.803795] lockd: server 192.168.6.200 not responding
[17:06] <amro85> bye all
[17:06] <legend2440> in hardy both xchat and xchat-gnome freeze when i select  Network>channel list in xchat-gnome  and Server>Channels in xchat. i have to restart xchat. wasn't doing this earlier this morning. anyone else seeing this?
[17:06] <amro85> thank you
[17:06] <PupUserfcc2cf> Good morning. Wondering if anybody has tried hooking up small lcd monitors/photoframes (3-5") to ubuntu os.
[17:06] <ikonia> titon that could cause you problem
[17:06] <prower> hello :> i just did a fresh install of intrepid, but now when i try to activate nvidia drivers in the control panel, nothing happens :<
[17:07] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, I have an nfs mount on your fstab ?
[17:07] <tapas> h god
[17:07] <titon> ikonia, yea i read about some people having problems with that
[17:07] <tapas> intrepid was released in this state? ;)
[17:07] <Pici> prower: Have you read the release notes? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[17:07] <TheSHAD0W> Got a suggestion for the web site...
[17:07] <tapas> pure breakage.. oh well..
[17:07] <chillout25m> Is this for Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:07] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : what do you mean?
[17:07] <titon> ikonia, i guess i'll wait until there are some supported drivers out there
[17:07] <kitche> legend2440: you sure it's freezing might just be grabbing the channel list which is mighty big
[17:07] <Pici> chillout25m: this?
[17:07] <atlef> chillout25m: yes
[17:08] <ikonia> titon the drivers in intrepid may well be support for your card, however the reason you may have problem is you have chose to use unsupported drivers
[17:08] <JInTheOffice> Tundrayeti312, that makes me wonder about the usefulness of the updater applet. I suppose I could treat it as simply notification that I ought to /j #ubuntu today and find out what's up with the lastest changes, if the update involves anything critical (like the kernel, for example)
[17:08] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt - you have the download links for BitTorrent coming off releases.ubuntu.com, which is getting hit hard; you should change them to torrent.ubuntu.com.
[17:08] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, lockd is usually needed for locking remote mounts, like  an nfs or samba service
[17:08] <leohartx> before install 8.10, i create a new partition with my remain free space on hard disk and set mout point at usr/local, how do i unmount it and mount it as a drive ?
[17:08] <prower> Pico: My hardware should support the 177 drivers?
[17:08] <prower> (Geforce 8800)
[17:08] <JuJuBee> Ok I do have an nfs mount on my clients (/home from server), but the clients are hanging and cannot do anything and I cant figure out what the problem is.
[17:09] <chillout25m> Pici / atlef: Hi, is there any workaroung to fix the webcam problem for Skype and Gyachi in Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:09] <juniecho> heck? no 3d acceleration with my geforce 6150 in 8.10?
[17:09] <jarussi> hi everyone, i'm having a strange trouble... one of the partitions of my hd is like "read-only" ... i can create or paste any files to it ... i just can see the files or execute! anyone knows what it could be?
[17:09] <legend2440> kitche: yes its freezing and i have to restart. it shows the list of channels in the box but i cant select any and Close doesnt work. i have to Force Quit
[17:09] <NeowiN> I tryed to install the new ubuntu and i get file error. What is wrong?
[17:09] <Technoviking> anyone else having text poorly drawing to the screen in gnome-terminal using nvidia 177.80 and compiz?
[17:09] <titon> ikonia, what driver should i load instead
[17:09] <leohartx> before install 8.10, i create a new partition with my remain free space on hard disk and set mout point at usr/local, how do i unmount it and mount it as a drive ?
[17:09] <Tundrayeti312> JInTheOffice: absolutely, there are also mailing lists you can join, and more detailed change logs that you could check... and of course if everything is working fine for you, and its not a security update, you don't have to update either
[17:09] <kestaz_> which theme on ubuntu  8.10 is default
[17:09] <kestaz_> ?
[17:09] <doggymenz> main repository is down :(
[17:10] <kitche> Technoviking http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[17:10] <danbh_intrepid> leohartx: what is the difference between mounting, and mounting as a drive?
[17:10] <pw-> ok, i got a weird one here, every now and then, ubuntu decides that I'm greek, and when i try to type, it comes out in greek. I don't have the greek language pack installed or anything, suggestions?
[17:10] <Phoenix87> where can I find some tuts on how to configure xchat (autojoins etc...) ?
[17:10] <lfs> how do I change the system language from the command line?
[17:10] <joaopinto> Phoenix87, google.com  ;)
[17:10] <Phoenix87> ok ^^
[17:10] <joaopinto> or try the xchat channel
[17:10] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : any ideas on what I can do to determine what the problem is and how to fix?
[17:10] <atlef> Phoenix87: xchat's homepage
[17:11] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, comment the nfs mounts, and try mounting manually
[17:11] <JewingGum> Hello, I have problemswith installing 8.10 I burned alternate installation copy to DVD, and installation startups when I reboot my computer, and then after choosing keyboard type, It is supposed to mount CD and it say it can't find any CD....
[17:11] <Jaffarkelshac> i am not having any problem with new ubuntu but after upgrade, clicking vidoes, documents,.. under places, opens vlc and starts playing the contents of the folder
[17:11] <Phoenix87> atlef: i checked it but i can't find a complete documentation
[17:11] <juniecho> leohartx//there is no mounting as a drive in linux, unlike windows
[17:11] <legend2440> Phoenix87: http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html
[17:11] <JInTheOffice> Tundrayeti312, t/y again. That's going to be my approach in future.
[17:11] <Phoenix87> are there other clients similar to mIRC?
[17:11] <titon> ikonia, how do i see what version of driver that i'm running?
[17:11] <atlef> Phoenix87: kvirc
[17:11] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : not sure I get what you mean?  Remove/comment in fstab?  How do I let normal users mount it then?
[17:11] <ikonia> titon normally in the xorg log
[17:11] <louise> Phoenix87, xchat
[17:11] <danbh_intrepid> Phoenix87: have you tried pidgin?
[17:11] <Tundrayeti312> JInTheOffice: np, best of luck :)
[17:12] <fbn> Hi, is it possible to tell Ubuntu alternate installer to create other encrypted LVM partitions than the defaults? It's creating one big /root and a /swap
[17:12] <Phoenix87> yep
[17:12] <deathtech> Hey guys :) An odd issue here, i have a PC i use as a remote server, and when i login locally, i can use all of my devices fine. However, when logging in remotely, unless i have already logged into the local pc, i cannot access my USB storage drive
[17:12] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, the idea is to mount manually just now, to debug the problem, not to leave it like that ;)
[17:12] <Phoenix87> and gaim as well
[17:12] <leohartx> danbd_intrepid: ah, i mean first , unmount it, then let linux mount it like another ntfs drive
[17:12] <JInTheOffice> l8r all
[17:12] <danbh_intrepid> Phoenix87: pidgin [17:12] <Phoenix87> but i think i'd prefer something specialized
[17:12] <louise> so now ibex is officially released, eh?
[17:12] <JewingGum> I got cannot mount CD-ROM in stupid alternate installation of 8.10!¨!!!!!
[17:12] <JewingGum> Hello, I have problemswith installing 8.10 I burned alternate installation copy to DVD, and installation startups when I reboot my computer, and then after choosing keyboard type, It is supposed to mount CD and it say it can't find any CD....
[17:12] <Phoenix87> something as customizable as mirc
[17:13] <titon> ikonia, II) NVIDIA GLX Module  96.43.05
[17:13] <eth01> you forget thats windows based
[17:13] <juniecho> leohartx//when you mount a partition, it would not have a drive letter like windows, instead, linux treats the partition as some folder when it is mounted, or are you having trouble mounting a partition?
[17:13] <atlef> Phoenix87: kvirc
[17:13] <louise> Phoenix87, Kvirc
[17:13] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : so I should ssh to one of my students computers, unmount it and remount it to see if that fixes things?
[17:13] <markrian> Phoenix87: xchat
[17:13] <Phoenix87> atlef: thanks, i'm gonna have a look for kvirc
[17:13] <IntangibleLiquid> went to bed, it will def be out tomorrow !
[17:13] <Phoenix87> markrian: i'm on xchat now :)
[17:13] <geremy> having a problem logging in on intrepid after clean install, goes through the gdm login and then appears to simply sit and wait with no disk reads and very low cpu utilisation- any ideas?
[17:13] <deathtech> phoenix87 : try Xchat, very similar to Mirc
[17:13] <chillout25m> Hi, is there any workaroung to fix the webcam problem for Skype and Gyachi in Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:14] <markrian> nevermind then ;o
[17:14] <chillout25m> Hi, is there any workaround to fix the webcam problem for Skype and Gyachi in Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:14] <deathtech> Hey guys :) An odd issue here, i have a PC i use as a remote server, and when i login locally, i can use all of my devices fine. However, when logging in remotely, unless i have already logged into the local pc, i cannot access my USB storage drive, thoughts ?
[17:14] <leohartx> juniecho/ is there any way to mount with drive letter ?
[17:14] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, yes
[17:14] <juniecho> leohartx//well, create a folder like c, or d, and mount the partition there, well... that's not a 'drive letter' but hmm...
[17:14] <joaopinto> JuJuBee, not to see if fixes, but to debug the problem
[17:15] <titon> ikonia, envy uses legacy drivers?
[17:15] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : ok, trying now...  brb
[17:15] <juniecho> leohartx//actually, if you mount a partition, it will be displayed on the desktop, so hmm, why stick to drive letters? :)
[17:15] <thomasite> Hello. I'm currently using 8.04. How do I upgrade to 8.10? Do I just download it? Won't my documents and other data be erased? Thanks!
[17:16] <juniecho> thomasite // !upgrade
[17:16] <Phoenix87> kvirc looks pretty cool, thank you!! :D
[17:16] <TheSHAD0W> !upgrade
[17:16] <atlef> Phoenix87: you are welcome
[17:16] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt - you have the download links for BitTorrent coming off releases.ubuntu.com, which is getting hit hard; you should change them to torrent.ubuntu.com.
[17:17] <juniecho> oh holy, firefox speed dial plugin is now way better than fast dial! yeah!
[17:17] <squarebracket> how do i get ntfs drives to auto-mount?
[17:17] <Codedrunk_Work> It is great! Found it a couple of days ago myself. ;)
[17:18] <louise> juniecho, what is the speed dial thingy?
[17:18] <kitche> TheSHAD0W: we know go tell the web team instead of here
[17:18] <mroc> hi all.  easy question:  how do i make the "safe to remove" notification always pop up when unmounting usb drives?
[17:18] <naxa> hi! i am sorry but is there any japanese ubuntu user here?
[17:18] <TheSHAD0W> kitche: How?
[17:18] <Guest22007> i have updated to Intrepid but I keep getting: W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[17:18] <Guest22007>  when running apt-get update any ideas?
[17:19] <leohartx> juniecho/ but my new partition(created when i install 8.10) didn't show up on desktop
[17:19] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : if I  am mounting 192.168.6.200/home on /home, what command / options should I use?
[17:19] <Codedrunk_Work> For the Firefox SpeedDial plugin: http://codedrunk.com/2008/10/29/plugins-speeddial-for-firefox-3/
[17:19] <juniecho> louise//well when you open firefox, it displays thumnails of websites you choose, and assign alt+number shortcut key
[17:19] <kitche> TheSHAD0W: If you have suggestions, or corrections for ubuntu.com or canonical.com then email us at webmaster at ubuntu dot com or webmaster at canonical dot com.
[17:19] <TheSHAD0W> Thank you.
[17:19] <thomasite> So I update 8.04 first (using Update Manager) and then update to 8.10 directly? Won't my data be lost? (Pardon my ignorance).
[17:19] <erUSUL> !jp | naxa
[17:20] <juniecho> louise//well it is like opera's speed dial, worth a shot, nice plugin. i think it is one of those 'must-have' things
[17:20] <juniecho> leohartx//is the partition mounted?
[17:20] <leohartx> yes, but as a folder in user/local
[17:20] <juniecho> leohartx//high chance is that the partition is not mounted, check your fstab file
[17:20] <Stiggy> hmm 8.10 has been weird, the first time i tried to install it it killed my laptop instantly, worked the second time though, now im having issues with enabling my Nvidia card
[17:20] <kitche> thomasite: no if you upgrade correctly your data will be there
[17:20] <Guest87319> Hello, I would like to know if kubuntu 8.10 includes the e1000e kernel bug fix ?
[17:20] <naxa> erUSUL, thank you
[17:21] <erUSUL> naxa: you're wellcome
[17:21] <juniecho> leohartx//why usr/local? that's weird, check your fstab file, and try mounting the partition under media.
[17:22] <Stiggy> i cannot install a restricted nvidia driver. when i try to install it it gets stuck on downloading......... forever at 0% and i have high speed
[17:22] <yokk> #ubuntu-fr
[17:22] <Bigmack83> has anyone here managed to tether their blackberry with ubuntu to use as a modem? i cant get it to work...
[17:22] <IntangibleLiquid> hmm
[17:22] <IntangibleLiquid> ubuntu was released already right? i'm so outdated
[17:22] <mroc> Guest87319: i believe it does, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/263555
[17:23] <Jaffarkelshac> is it possible to place a folder or location in places on the gnome-panel??
[17:23] <Guest87319> Thanks
[17:23] <erUSUL> IntangibleLiquid: yep first ubuntu was released in 2004... ;P
[17:23] <ssam> Stiggy, try changing you mirror in system->admin->software sources. the main servers are pretty busy today
[17:24] <leohartx> juniecho/ uhm, can you tell me where is fstab ?, i'm new to ubuntu
[17:24] <Stiggy> im using the canadian server :P
[17:24] <Stiggy> come on, all they have here is 100 people and 1 billion tons of snow
[17:24] <juniecho> leohartx// /etc/fstab
[17:24] <Jaffarkelshac> /etc/ leohartx
[17:24] <mroc> can anyone tell me how to always have the "safe to remove" notification pop up when removing a flash drive?
[17:25] <Jaffarkelshac> /etc/ leohartx
[17:25] <Jaffarkelshac> is it possible to place a folder or location in places on the gnome-panel??
[17:25] <juniecho> leohartx// press alt+f2, and type: gksu gedit /est/fstab
[17:25] <Lancelot_> how do I get my hotmail on ubuntu? :?
[17:25] <scarface> Jaffarkelshac, you can create a bookmark
[17:25] <bavardage> Lancelot_: www.hotmail.com?
[17:25] <bavardage> perchance
[17:25] <Jaffarkelshac> under places?
[17:25] <lfs> how do I change the system language from the command line?
[17:25] <Lancelot_> lol, no, i mean, such as a windows live mail on linux
[17:26] <JuJuBee> after mounting /home manually, the student cannot log in still via kde, but can ctrl+alt+f1 and log in.  I use nis for login.
[17:26] <ssam> Jaffarkelshac, in nautilus you can drag folders to the bookmarks sidebar
[17:26] <scarface> Jaffarkelshac, browse to the folder you want in Nautilus, then use the Bookmarks menu to add a bookmark.  The folder will then show up in Places | Boomarks
[17:26] <Stiggy> man this nvidia is buggin the hell outta me
[17:26] <leohartx> juniecho//ok, i found it, and this is content : # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[17:26] <leohartx> #
[17:26] <leohartx> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[17:26] <leohartx> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[17:26] <leohartx> # /dev/sda3
[17:26] <FloodBot2> leohartx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <leohartx> UUID=3972bdd0-7b3e-4b6c-bc66-cfd244397207 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[17:26] <Stiggy> 1 more hour otherwise im going back to mint -.-
[17:27] <Jaffarkelshac> i will give it a try thanks scarface
[17:27] <bavardage> Lancelot_: www.live.com?
[17:27] <juniecho> leohartx// use pastebin :(
[17:27] <bavardage> Lancelot_: you mean like receiving it in a client?
[17:27] <Lancelot_> yes
[17:28] <KaiForce> will the Ubuntu live CD (install CD) read JFS?  Or can I boot to it, & load JFS support?
[17:28] <erUSUL> KaiForce: it will read it yes
[17:28] <Jaffarkelshac> did not realise those were bookmarks, worked like a charm thanks ssam  scarface
[17:28] <juniecho> leohartx//anyway, find the line where the partition is told to be mounted, in usr/local.
[17:28] <euxneks> leohartx, use pastebin :)
[17:29] <leohartx> ??
[17:29] <sab1> hey question can i install 8.1 through 8.04
[17:29] <sab1> without burning cd?
[17:29] <sab1> like through update manager?
[17:29] <atlef> sab1: yes
[17:29] <Gnea> sab1: yes.
[17:29] <Pici> !upgrade | sab1
[17:29] <naxa> is it possible that I've disabled emerald? I click on the theme but nothing happens... how can i make compiz themes actually working?
[17:29] <leohartx> juniecho, would you mind to tell me again the solution ?
[17:30] <juniecho> leohartx//pastebin is the place where you can paste several lines of text, and upload it easily, so you can paste just the web address of the text you've just pasted.
[17:30] <KaiForce> erUSUL thanks
[17:30] <leohartx> euxneks, what is pastebin ?
[17:30] <KaiForce> read is all I need.
[17:30] <juniecho> leohartx//well there should be somewhere the partition is told to be mounted in /usr/local. so just change it to something like media/datadrive.
[17:30] <euxneks> leohartx, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:31] <juniecho> of course you should make the folder before you actually mount the drive.
[17:31] <Popoi> I've just arrived home and I see Intrepid Ibex is ready to download, happy realease!! and contratulations to all developers and users
[17:31] <flipwich> I was updating from 8.04 to 8.10 through the standard gnome package manager when my keyboard went nuts.  Amarok wouldn't stop changing the song, and i couldn't control my keyboard other than Ctrl+alt+bksp, which is what I did.  After that, I can no longer use my keyboard besides ctrl+alt+del and ctrl+alt+bksp, so I can't log in at all
[17:31] <euxneks> leohartx, you put large blocks of code in there, give us the link
[17:31] <flipwich> Is there a possible solution to this?
[17:31] <euxneks> leohartx, then we can see the entire thing without you flooding the channel :)
[17:31] <sab1> alright thanks it should've found it without having to do the extra work technically..
[17:31] <leohartx> here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64704/
[17:31] <JuJuBee> joaopinto : I remounted /home and still the user cannot log in.
[17:32] <gpled> did 8.10 update virtualbox?
[17:32] <euxneks> Yes, I would also like to say thank you to all developers if there are any in here, Ibex is sweet
[17:32] <gpled> euxneks: that yes for me?
[17:32] <juniecho> leohartx//hmm, the partition is not mounted, are you dual-booting? i mean, do you use both windows and linux?
[17:33] <leohartx> juniecho// no, i've just delete windows
[17:33] <KDesk> if I try to access lunchpad.net Firefox says me: launchpad.net uses an invalid security certificate.
[17:33] <JuJuBee> Can somone else assist me?  joaopinto seems to have left and I am having trouble with lockd
[17:33] <sab1> hmm update manager crashed 4 times on me trying to upgrade to 8.10...but now it magically works...hmm
[17:33] <Pici> gpled: yes. 1.5.6 to 2.0.4
[17:34] <sab1> is there better nvidia support with 8.10 ?
[17:34] <leohartx> juniecho// the partition i want to mount is locate at line which include user/local
[17:34] <gpled> Pici: cool, been waiting for 2.xx
[17:34] <MiCKi> my labtop's ram is 256 MB. Can anyone tell me, is it enough to install xubuntu from Live-CD?
[17:34] <YourMetaData> Any languages that are comparable to VB6 for linux?
[17:34] <YourMetaData> I'm looking for a visual programming language
[17:34] <JuJuBee> kernel: [15968.980226] lockd: server 192.168.6.200 not responding
[17:34] <erUSUL> YourMetaData: gambas
[17:34] <sab1> i have a 8800gt which i get  good resolution with.. but i cant use enhanced graphics option
[17:34] <juniecho> hmm, leohartx, there is currently no line including usr/local so, you gotta mount it manually
[17:34] <erUSUL> !info gambas2 | YourMetaData
[17:35] <juniecho> leohartx// of course we'll need to set automount. fstab does that.
[17:35] <gpled> MiCKi: if you did get it on there, x windows is not going to like you
[17:35] <thomasite> If, in case, 8.10 wouldn't work well in my laptop, how do I get back to 8.04? thanks!
[17:35] <YourMetaData> Thanks
[17:35] <juniecho> leohartx// http://paste.ubuntu.com/64706/ take a look at this, this is my fstab file.
[17:35] <Rhengal> Since I moved to Ubuntu I have had this problem where my color/gamma/brightness settings in the nvidia-x-server settings aint loaded properly, I solved the load on startup by adding it to the startup script. The problem now is that when the computer goes to screensaver or shuts of the monitor after 20 mins, once i resume, I have to load the settings again. Anyone got any ideas?
[17:35] <Mixed432> anyone knows how to configure the scroll wheel on a USB mousie?
[17:35] <thomasite> I﻿f, in case, 8.10 wouldn't work well in my laptop, how do I get back to 8.04? thanks!
[17:35] <gpled> Mixed432: should just work
[17:36] <chad1> How do you specify the order in which items load when they are placed in your session startup?
[17:36] <Mixed432> gpled, ok well it doesn not work in my distro
[17:36] <ogsc> thomasite: back up before the upgrade or reinstall 8.04 from scratch. my understanding is that it doesn't roll back
[17:36] <ssam> thomasite, test with the live cd first
[17:36] <Mixed432> anyone knows how to configure the scroll wheel on a USB mousie?
[17:36] <gpled> Mixed432: what distro are you using?
[17:36] <magnetron> !mouse | Mixed432
[17:36] <juniecho> leohartx//so what is the number of the partition you're going to mount
[17:36] <Mixed432> ubuntu studio
[17:36] <sab1> thomasite: you are gonna have to reinstall 8.04 to go back from a CD, thats the easiest way
[17:36] <sab1> but test the livecd first with 8.1
[17:36] <sab1> 8.10*
[17:36] <thomasite> But upgrading to 8.10 doesn't delete my files, right? I mean, my documents are not in danger?
[17:36] <KDesk> if I try to access lunchpad.net Firefox says me: launchpad.net uses an invalid security certificate. Is this normal?
[17:37] <ogsc> tomasite: no
[17:37] <sab1> no they are not
[17:37] <CelticLord> slt
[17:37] <leohartx> juniecho//1, take a look at this line : UUID=2e335739-36fc-4f5e-bdff-07ee0b6b0711 /usr/local
[17:37] <ssam> thomasite, but you should always have backups
[17:37] <MiCKi> gpled so i have to use alternate-cd, right?
[17:37] <Neeeewbee> 8.10 is working pretty nice so far. I just did the upgrade from 8.04
[17:37] <YourMetaData> Hmm, are they messing with the repos for hardy ?
[17:37] <thomasite> Thanks a lot, guys. I've been waiting for the release of 8.10. I'm just hoping that no data would be lost.
[17:37] <Mixed432> magnetron, i was reading that and it's a bunch of mumbo jumbo to me, i have to translate it to human, however if there is anyone that is familiar or has enabled the mouse scroll wheel please let me know
[17:37] <Pici> YourMetaData: 'messing with them'?
[17:37] <gpled> MiCKi: what number version is that?  i never know the names
[17:37] <juniecho> leohartx//oops sorry, that's it. change the value
[17:37] <YourMetaData> Pici, yes, apt is freezing at 0%
[17:37] <sab1> see y'all later
[17:37] <sab1> peace
[17:37] <YourMetaData> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[17:38] <ogsc> YourMetaData: are you using a proxy?
[17:38] <Pici> YourMetaData: The entire repository servers are under heavy load due to the 8.10 release, just be patient.
[17:38] <magnetron> YourMetaData→ don't use the main servers, use a mirror
[17:38] <YourMetaData> Thought so
[17:38] <leohartx> juniecho// what value should i change ?
[17:38] <JuJuBee> What id the difference between this (192.168.6.200:/home     /home   nfs     soft        2       0) from fstab and this (sudo mount 192.168.6.200:/home /home) ? besides the one from fstab being mounted at startup.
[17:38] <Jaffarkelshac> Neeeewbee: so is everything working fine for you, i had one bug
[17:38]  * solarion should set up a mirror
[17:38] <gpled> who was asking about a good way to roll back?
[17:38] <juniecho> leohartx//by the way, are you SURE that's the windows partition? the file system is ext3. anyway, change /usr/local to some different location.
[17:39] <KDesk> if I try to access lunchpad.net Firefox says me: launchpad.net uses an invalid security certificate. Is this normal?
[17:39] <Neeeewbee> Jaffarkelshac: Yes.. I had to shutdown ath0 and restart networking everytime to get wireless to work in 8.04. Now it works like it should
[17:39] <MiCKi> gpled my HP notebook has only 256mb of ram. do i have to install xubuntu 8.10 by alternate-cd?
[17:39] <strikoo> Hi, I'm running 8.10 on my MSI laptop, the battery bug isn't fix. Has anybody some other information or fixses that can help with this problem, please contact me. TNX
[17:39] <gpled> could make an iso of you hard drive before upgrading.  then if you did not like it, restore the iso
[17:39] <Pici> KDesk: its Launchpad.net, not Lunchpad.net
[17:39] <chad1> How do you specify the order in which items load when they are placed in your session startup?
[17:39] <mahmood> salam
[17:39] <leohartx> juniecho//no, i've already told you that i want to mount that partion like a window drive
[17:39] <gpled> MiCKi: i dont think 256 is enough ram
[17:40] <leohartx> juniecho//to make it easy to manage
[17:40] <KDesk> Pici ah, you are right, but the error exists.
[17:40] <Pici> mahmood: 256 is the least amount of ram that Ubuntu can run on. see the release notes for details: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:40] <Neeeewbee> Jaffarkelshac: But now all of my app windows dont have a minimize to tool bar button, or the square or the X to close it.. wierd
[17:40] <johnny05> How do I get about upgrading all packages on a server? 8.04.
[17:40] <juniecho> leohartx// oh i understand... hmm, the problem is that the partition is mounted but not showing on the desktop. right?
[17:40] <Pici> !upgrade | johnny05
[17:41] <MiCKi> gpled	not enough for both of live and alternate cd or only for live-cd
[17:41] <johnny05> thanks!
[17:41] <bozza> hi
[17:41] <Neeeewbee> those upgrade notes don
[17:41] <Neeeewbee> don't cover 8.10
[17:41] <Jaffarkelshac> luckily for me nothing like that, the only bug so far watch, book marks in places opening with vlc. Neeeewbee
[17:41] <Pici> Neeeewbee: Which notes?
[17:41] <frantz46> hello
[17:41] <bozza> guys for some reason my master sound when i change the volume it doesnt actually change the sound level of anything
[17:41] <johnny05> i don't want to upgrad to 8.10, just all my packages
[17:41] <leohartx> juniecho//yes
[17:41] <Pici> Neeeewbee: The one I just posted do indeed, look closer.
[17:41] <Zeester> does anyone know where to download the minimal cd for intrepid?
[17:41] <bozza> so if i watch a movie . and i press mute on master . nothing happens
[17:42] <Neeeewbee> Pici.. hang on..
[17:42] <JuJuBee> What id the difference between this (192.168.6.200:/home     /home   nfs     soft        2       0) from fstab and this (sudo mount 192.168.6.200:/home /home) ? besides the one from fstab being mounted at startup.
[17:42] <gpled> MiCKi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[17:42] <juniecho> leohartx//there is no way that it could get a drive letter in linux, since there is no drive letters in linux, you could make the partition appear on the desktop. actually, there is no difference once the partition is on the desktop... well, i'll dig in
[17:42] <MiCKi> gpled	thanks
[17:42] <frantz46> how to install compiz for my dell inspiron with ati driver
[17:42] <gpled> MiCKi: np
[17:42] <frantz46> for ubuntu 7.10
[17:43] <bozza> hey so does anyone know why i cant mute or change my sound volume on my laptop
[17:43] <cellfish_> is the 8.10 edition worth the upgrade?
[17:43] <YourMetaData> Yes
[17:43] <Pici> johnny05: There isn't a distinction between the two
[17:43] <flipwich> bozza: start up alsamixer
[17:43] <ericjung> where are the release notes for 8.10?
[17:43] <bozza> ok
[17:43] <leohartx> juniecho//all i need is place that partition on desk top with a name
[17:43] <flipwich> that isn't very specific
[17:43] <ericjung> where are the release notes for Ibix?
[17:43] <Pici> ericjung: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:43] <ericjung> thx pici
[17:43] <Cheard> i understand a lot of support questions are being thrown around in here, but i just wanted to again thank the developers and support for this great release (in addition to all the kernel, package and WM devs).
[17:43] <joshual> hey folks, is there anything I can do to force ubuntu-amd64 to be a pure amd64 system (not install 32 bit libs etc)?
[17:43] <cellfish_> alright, is it possible for me to upgrade from a burned iso or should i go through the in-system auto-update?
[17:43] <Cheard> and happy halloween to those observers in this hemisphere
[17:43] <cellfish_> the in-system auto-update being slow as hell right now
[17:43] <juniecho> leohartx// alt+f2, gksu nautilus <enter>
[17:44] <Pici> cellfish_: Only the alternate ISO can be used to upgrade
[17:44] <bozza> flipwich in alsamixer if i mute the volume under headphones or change the volume it changes the volume for the laptop
[17:44] <BenHoltz> I need some help.  I was changing settings in compiz, and It changed to a error type matrix on the screen.  I cannot boot in to gnome now... anyone that can help?
[17:44] <cellfish_> so essentially, the in-system update is my best bet
[17:44] <Neeeewbee> Pici: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[17:44] <Juanelo> where can i find md5sum for 8.10 ??
[17:44] <bozza> but if i change the volume in master nothing happens
[17:44] <Zeester> does anyone know where to download the minimal cd for intrepid?
[17:44] <Bodsda> Cheard, I dont think many people in here are devs -- perhaps #ubuntu-dev :)
[17:44] <juniecho> leohartx// navigate all the way up to top (root, /)
[17:44] <leohartx> juniecho//ok
[17:44] <Cheard> indeed
[17:44] <juniecho> leohartx// and there will be a folder named 'media'
[17:45] <Pici> Neeeewbee: What about it?
[17:45] <flipwich> bozza: you might have to raise the other ones
[17:45] <leohartx> juniecho//next ?
[17:45] <mohbana> what's the best uk torrent?
[17:45] <flipwich> like "front"
[17:45] <Pici> Neeeewbee: !upgrade talks about all upgrades, not everyone wants to upgrade to 8.10
[17:45] <flipwich> and make sure that it isn'
[17:45] <flipwich> that it isn't muted
[17:45] <ogsc> mohbana: it's arbitrary based on usage
[17:45] <juniecho> leohartx// create a folder with any name you desire, and remember the folder name.
[17:45] <ericjung> where is the list of 3G GSM connections supported by NetworkManager in 8.10?
[17:45] <cellfish_> !upgrade
[17:45] <juniecho> leohartx// and replace /usr/local with that folder name (it would be /media/foldername) in fstab file.
[17:45] <Juanelo> where can i find md5sum for 8.10 ??
[17:45] <bozza> can someone please help me on my sounds problem . This is the info: When i mute or change volume in MASTER nothing happens. but when i change volume or mute in HEADPHONE , it changes the volume of sound on my laptop
[17:46] <mohbana> do i need ot verify the iso if i get it using bitorrent?
[17:46] <Pici> Juanelo: http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[17:46] <juniecho> leohartx// please remember, you need to edit fstab file with admin right, to do that, alt+f2, gksu gedit /etc/fstab .
[17:46] <gustavo> Hi. I just upgraded(?) to Kubuntu Intrepid and I can't access wired nor wireless networks. I already restarted and selected an old kernel version, but the problem is still there. What can I do?
[17:46] <Juanelo> yhx pici
[17:46] <Juanelo> oops thx
[17:46] <atlef> mohbana: normally, no
[17:46] <leohartx> juniecho//ok, i've done it
[17:46] <flipwich> gustavo: you can't plug in an ethernet connection and have it work?
[17:46] <Neeeewbee> for upgrading that link is all wrong. Doesn't tell you how to upgrade. Just gives advice and bugs associate with upgrading to 8.04 from a prior release. The bot needs to be trained.
[17:46] <leohartx> juniecho// is that all ?
[17:47] <gustavo> flipwich: no, it doesn't work
[17:47] <bozza> guys i need some help with the sound
[17:47] <juniecho> leohartx// save the fstab file, and reboot. see if it works. i've just updated the kernel and am going to reboot. it it didn't work, try asking someone else, though i think i'll be back in few minutes.
[17:47] <flipwich> gustavo: thats..weird.  and for your wireless ones, do you get anything when you do an iwlist scan in your terminal?
[17:48] <bundyc1> where can i download the ubuntu 8.10 dvd ?
[17:48] <leohartx> juniecho//thank you any way, hope it will work :))
[17:48] <BenHoltz> anyone help with my issue with compiz?
[17:48] <Bigmack83> i am having problems installing opensync to use with XmBlackBerry. when i make, i get the output here http://pastebin.com/m73c0989c . anyone know what i could do?
[17:48] <ldiamond> bundyc1, theres no DVD, theres a CD. www.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <Neeeewbee> Can someone please change this. This link should be in the TOPIC https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades not this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:49] <JuJuBee> Should I use samba to mount /home or nfs ?  Which is better/more reliable?
[17:49] <Gokul> I have *kubuntu* installed and I want to switch to *ubuntu*, how do I achieve that?
[17:49] <bundyc1> will my wireless usb work in the new ubuntu ? it+s a d-link
[17:49] <unenough> Mazel Tov!
[17:49] <unenough> :)
[17:49] <gustavo> flipwich: nothing. The WiFi LED is not even on.
[17:49] <Mixed432> gokul, just install gnome desktop or whatever desktop you want to use
[17:49] <YourMetaData> erUSUL, for Gambas... Unload Me doesn't work, should I use something else?
[17:49] <pw-> Gokul, best way would be to reinstall, alternatively you can install all the gnome packages through synaptic, and remove the KDE packages
[17:50] <unenough> can i try the new gnome without installing intrepid?
[17:50] <Bigmack83> Gokul, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop . should do it i believe
[17:50] <gustavo> flipwich: And I already tried to activate the restrictive drivers but failed
[17:50] <kitche> Neeeewbee: neither link is in the topic
[17:50] <r0b> does wubi come on the 8.10 cd?
[17:50] <Pici> unenough: Try it from the Intrepid LiveCD
[17:50] <ogsc> unenough: check out the live CD
[17:50] <erUSUL> YourMetaData: Unload Me?? what's that?
[17:50] <Mixed432> pw, if I have KDE install but dont use it anymore, does it still consume resources????
[17:50] <unenough> Pici, ogsc i want to install it
[17:50] <YourMetaData> erUSUL, to exit the form
[17:50] <Pici> unenough: Then no, its only in Intrepid.
[17:50] <unenough> ok thanks
[17:50] <Gokul> Bigmack83: ok thanks! I'll give that a shot
[17:50] <flipwich> gustavo: Thats a confusing problem.  It only started with 8.10?
[17:51] <pw-> Mixed432, no, unless you have KDE programs running under gnome
[17:51] <erUSUL> YourMetaData: i do not program in gambas i only know about it...
[17:51] <YourMetaData> Ok
[17:51] <fbn> how much slower will a harddisk get if it's encrypted?
[17:51] <Neeeewbee> kitche: I know. Srry. The upgrade to intrepid should be. People keep pointing everyone to upgrade notes for 8.04 which does absolutely no good if you want to upgrade to 8.10.. ;)
[17:51] <erUSUL> YourMetaData: you should look for help elsewhere (maybe there is a gambas irc channel or mailing list)
[17:51] <kitche> Neeeewbee: well the UPGRADENOTES is generic which goes for all versions if you didn't really notice
[17:52] <lakota> having trouble getting the java plug in to work in firefox,  after installing sunjava threw add/remove.   can anyone help me?
[17:52] <ajay_> hi
[17:52] <ndo> Guys. Hi all. I've a little question. Does Flash works out of the box on new 8.10 64bit? Plz, ty.
[17:52] <gustavo> flipwich: Yes, I'm using KUbuntu on this laptop since Dapper, where WiFi didn't work out-of-the-box, but wired connections have always worked in every Kubuntu version.
[17:52] <ajay_> i would like to know if there is a software that is similar to windows move maker
[17:52] <ajay_> i have to make a little photo montage
[17:52] <flipwich> ajay_: there is kdenlive and a few others, i believe
[17:53] <flipwich> but im not familiar with them
[17:53] <joshual> is there no amd64 package for flashplugin-nonfree ?
[17:53] <pw-> !java | lakota
[17:53] <lakota> ok :)
[17:53] <ajay_> flipwich:  thx ill try to look at it
[17:53] <flipwich> I'm sure that if you looked around on sourceforge and the like you could find some others
[17:54] <BenHoltz> Can Someone Help me restore my video settings to default?!?
[17:54] <Guest76818> ok how do i do a profile
[17:54] <acidfoo> Hi guys, is there any official ubuntu package to create an arm tool chain ? or what apt source url you guys are using ?
[17:54] <acidfoo> thank you
[17:54] <bundyc1> will my wireless usb work in the new ubuntu ? it+s a d-link
[17:54] <michaeldelaney> I have a silly upgrade question: the update manager seems tobe locked up on "javascript-common".
[17:54] <anita_> http://www.algeciras.es/party08/
[17:54] <Ergo^> evening
[17:55] <Ergo^> i wanted to ask how do i enable properietary drivers in interpid ?
[17:55] <alessio> ciao
[17:55] <Ergo^> the jockey app dies when i push "activate"
[17:55] <alessio> °ubuntu
[17:55] <alessio> ciao
[17:55] <alessio> !list
[17:56] <r0b> does wubi come on the 8.10 cd?
[17:56] <FoolsRun> If the distribution upgrade tool (seems to) locks up in the middle, is there anything I can do?
[17:56] <adyshor> hi all..does anybody know where can I register a channel?
[17:56] <Ergo^> FoolsRun: change the mirror
[17:56] <acidfoo> Hi guys, is there any official ubuntu package to create an arm tool chain ? or what apt source url you guys are using ?
[17:56] <acidfoo> oups
[17:56] <FoolsRun> Ergo^: it's through the downloading, it's stuck installing/configuring
[17:56] <kitche> adyshor though chanserv /msg chanserv help
[17:57] <adyshor> 10x
[17:57] <erUSUL> adyshor: with chanserv bot??
[17:57] <blood_su> any good recommendations on soundcards for ubuntu today? I'm another sucker of advertising by creative.........
[17:57] <deepfriedsquirre> I solved my problem with rsync. Bye
[17:58] <lakota> ubottu,  I already have this java installed on ubuntu 8.10 and I just need the plug in for firefox, or maybe I am not understanding what you ment
[17:58] <ndo> Hello? Can anyone hear me?:)
[17:58] <blood_su> I can't hear you but I can see you
[17:58] <DJDarkstar> Anyone familiar with the "Epson Workforce 600 Series" wireless printer/scanner  (all in one), and if it's possible to use it with ubuntu
[17:58] <alessio> ciao
[17:58] <cellfish_> blood_su: my creative card seems to work fine
[17:58] <alessio> !list
[17:58] <ndo> Guys. Hi all. I've a little question. Does Flash works out of the box on new 8.10 64bit? Plz, ty.
[17:58] <Phoenix87> hallo
[17:58] <flipwich> DJDarkstar: have you checked the Espon website for drivers?
[17:58] <joshual> Does anyone know if there is a 64bit flash plugin?
[17:58] <flipwich> They may be in the form of a .rpm or a .deb
[17:59] <blood_su> cellfish_ yes it does work kind of I had to build the drivers with OOC opensound to get the XFI working
[17:59] <DJDarkstar> doesn't have linux drivers, there are mac ones
[17:59] <cellfish_> ndo: dude, installing flash on ubuntu is like the easiest thing in the world. go to adobe's site, get the latest version, restart the browser
[17:59] <flipwich> if its .rpm, you can use alien --to-deb to make it into a deb file
[17:59] <Mixed432> blood_su, depends on what you want the sound card for, if you want it for some serious stuff I recommend the m-audio cards, i
[17:59] <Ergo^> so does anyone knows why intepid cant set properietary nvidia driver ?
[17:59] <cellfish_> blood_su: oh darn... mine is some lame creative audigy se or something. works out of the box
[17:59] <ogsc> hey everyone...what's the best way to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 using a mirror?
[17:59] <blood_su> Mixed432 ahh I keep hearing that M-Audio are there drivers open source?
[17:59] <ndo> cellfish_: explain it to my mother..
[17:59] <lakota> is there a channel fro ubuntu 8.10 rc support ?
[17:59] <Phoenix87> !it | alessio
[18:00] <ogsc> *with the alternate CD
[18:00] <simi> hi, if someopne can give me some advice in my problem with power management on a laptop please read this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6048506#post6048506
[18:00] <ndo> cellfish_: got the point?:)
[18:00] <cellfish_> i'm not sure mothers should be using ubuntu to begin with
[18:00] <cellfish_> my mom can't figure out mac os x
[18:00] <blood_su> Mixed432: ahh I keep hearing that M-Audio are there drivers open source?
[18:00] <alessio> !list
[18:00] <CharelB> is it possible to update from 8.04 to 8.10?
[18:00] <flipwich> CharelB: yes
[18:00] <gregor> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/ only accessable with javascript, please fix that. :)
[18:00] <DJDarkstar> what he said :)
[18:00] <Mixed432> blood_su, what I do know  is what I have read, those cards **work**, some sound blaster cards have issues with Linux, my external USB sound blaster sounds crappy in Linux, it sounds awesome in windows but it's too weak for Linux
[18:01] <ndo> cellfish_: ok, my mom usin ubuntu for surf, and its ok for her :)
[18:01] <cellfish_> charelb: yep. just make sure to configure the software sources to allow updates for normal releases
[18:01] <flipwich> CharelB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[18:01] <CharelB> without downloading and burning a iso file flipwich
[18:01] <CharelB> Thanks
[18:01] <flipwich> tells you how to do it
[18:01] <gregor> why is ubottu showing http and not https, where you are redirected?
[18:01] <blood_su> Mixed432: ok well thanks for the msg just another person vouching for M-Audio for linux for me thanks for that
[18:01] <Ax3> I need MD5sums for i386 and amd64, THANK YOU
[18:02] <CharelB> is 8.10 only an rc or stable?
[18:02] <cellfish_> charelb: just one thing, the update system is insanely slow right now
[18:02] <ndo> cellfish_: so anyway, i take it as: no it doesnt work out of the box, right?:)
[18:02] <lolman> CharelB, it's been released :)
[18:02] <cellfish_> ndo: i don't think ubuntu will ever have flash work out of the box since flash is seen as a proprietary driver
[18:02] <r0b> does wubi come on the 8.10 cd?
[18:02] <CharelB> ah :D
[18:02] <CharelB> that's nice
[18:02] <CharelB> cellfish_, so when do you recommand to update?
[18:02] <ndo> cellfish_: ok
[18:02] <teamcobra> congrats all on the release ;)
[18:03] <DJDarkstar> if you want wubi just go to http://wubi-installer.org/
[18:03] <avarus> hi
[18:03] <avarus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM is outdated, where is the new md5sum :/?
[18:04] <avarus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes <-- outdated
[18:04] <cellfish_> are there mirrors for the auto-update out of curiosity or are we all trying to download the update from the same server?
[18:04] <aaron> I can't recieve mail internally using send mail  but I can send out to emails  can someone help with configuring mda
[18:04] <Ax3> avarus, i've been asking the same damn questions
[18:04] <avarus> does anyone have md5 sums for 8.10?
[18:04] <Ax3> avarus, :(
[18:04] <teamcobra> 1 hitch, however.... I'm trying to run the usb key creation tool, and it hangs indefinitely... I've tried w/ a freshly formatted 4gb stick, and no luck
[18:04] <gregor> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ md5
[18:04] <avarus> Ax3, :(...I installed it but get I/O error at 60%...
[18:04] <gregor> avarus, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:04] <avarus> thanks gregL_
[18:04] <avarus> gregor, thanks :)
[18:05] <jkristheking> hey anyone have any idea how to get a xbox 360 wired controller to work in ubuntu 8.04? PM me if you can walk me though on how to get it to work
[18:05] <grizzancs> is there a way to disable gnome-terminal's alt+number bindings to multiple terminal tabs? i can't switch windows in irssi only by typing /window .... these bindings are not at edit / keyboard shortcuts :(
[18:06] <bozza> so is 8.10 out officially ?
[18:06] <han`> how do you find the mobile USB version?
[18:06] <grizzancs> bozza: yes, it is
[18:06] <chocohoof> anyone know why ibex release candidate doesnt sense my keyboard and mouse at the login screen?
[18:06] <bozza> because i downloaded 8.10 a few days ago when it was still in rc
[18:06] <xnv> Just got 8.10 ... What's the proper way to install Flash?
[18:06] <jkristheking> is there any differnace in 8.10?
[18:06] <bozza> does that mean i need to download it again :(
[18:06] <xnv> I don't see a flash package in the repo
[18:06] <teamcobra> jkristheking: in 8.10, I know you just plug it in and it works..... I can't quite remember if xpad360 needed to be compiled for 8.04
[18:06] <Ax3> avarus, that could be an indication of a hard disk problem... who knows heh
[18:06] <grizzancs> bozza: nah
[18:07] <grizzancs> you are good if you just update it
[18:07] <chuy> hey
[18:07] <avarus> Ax3, no, it's the media
[18:07] <bozza> is it the same ? or can i just do an update ?
[18:07] <jkristheking> so in 8.10 i can get my 360 contoller to work?
[18:07] <avarus> Ax3, md5 sum doesn't match :)
[18:07] <Thylacine> should i make a live usb with the default program or with another one?
[18:07] <teamcobra> han`: the mobile usb is created w/ a tool inside 8.10 under administration
[18:07] <chuy> can i just hear the broadcast in bbc through totem?
[18:07] <Ax3> avarus, damn sorry bud, well best of luck to ya reinstalling
[18:07] <grizzancs> !final | bozza
[18:07] <han`> teamcobra, ok so i need an existing install then?
[18:07] <avarus> Ax3, will work...the drive is new :)
[18:07] <Ohmu_> There seems to be a problem with GNOME-PPP.  Whatever I put in the init strings box, it erases it.  Any ideas?
[18:08] <teamcobra> han: yeah, and let me know if it works, because I got it to work once... and never again
[18:08] <eross> i'm thinking of getting a wii, would the remotes work with ubuntu by any chance?
[18:08] <Lykkefeen> I just installed 8.10, how come does the "documents", "pictures", "video"-links at the Places menu start audicious instead of opening the correct folders?
[18:08] <darkvertex> guys, i DL-ed the Ibex iso, could anyone tell me how to mount the image into a directory for update? i don't want to burn it just yet.
[18:08] <bozza> ok thanks grizzancs :D
[18:08] <joshual> alright i'm confused there is so much data on installing flash plugin for ubuntu-amd64 that I don't know which method to use... can anyone tell me what the preferred method is?
[18:08] <grizzancs> np :)
[18:08] <han`> teamcobra, ok, i will, going to load it on my acer aspire one
[18:08] <eross> i meant the controllers like the guitar, gun, etc
[18:08] <Ax3> avarus, haha i've been in this business long enough to know that even 'new' drives aren't not susceptible to failure ;P
[18:08] <kitche> grizzancs: probably have to press esc +number
[18:08] <bozza> i love how in 8.10 it finds my phone without a problem and it lets me connect to the internet
[18:08] <avarus> Ax3, well, but it's not broken and I'm into this business as well :)
[18:08] <sfears> i'm having some issues with networkmanager & knetwork managers.  my computer won't start up unless my linksys pci card is inserted.  boot up stalls while loading avahi & networkmanager dispatcher.  can anyone clue me in on some ideas??
[18:09] <Ax3> avarus, :-)
[18:09] <avarus> Ax3, it's simply the damaged file I downloaded
[18:09] <chuy> hey i'm trying to watch BBC broadcasting, but everything i select only gives me audio
[18:09] <avarus> md5 proves it
[18:09] <grizzancs> kitche: hm, that works. thanks
[18:09] <bozza> man the ubuntu channels must be so bloody busy these days :P
[18:09] <Jeruvy> bozza: softphone?
[18:09] <bozza> no N95 through 3G
[18:09] <Jeruvy> bozza: ah
[18:09] <bozza> its a nokia
[18:09] <nxmehta> can i upgrader my hardy server to ibex without reinstalling via cd?
[18:09] <xnv> !flash
[18:09] <sfears> my computer stays broken enough to keep this channel busy
[18:09] <sanguisdex> bozza: that's why I upgrade from the cdrom that I get from bit torrent
[18:09] <bozza> i had so many problems connecting my N95 in 8.04
[18:10] <Jeruvy> bozza: I wonder how well a iPhone would work ;)
[18:10] <flipwich> whats the IM client that was added in 8.10?
[18:10] <joshual> xnv:  its different for amd64
[18:10] <bozza> hahaha yea same .. give it a go
[18:10] <nikolajsheller1> Hello. I've just tried til install Intrepid on my macbook. Unfortunately it does not boot. The Apple BIOS does not seem to recognize the Intrepid partiotion as bootable
[18:10] <xnv> joshual: I'm on x86
[18:10] <bozza> jeruvy . maybe it works ?
[18:11] <joshual> ok, but I asked about amd64 ...
[18:11] <Jeruvy> bozza: I'll try it and giggle I'm sure.
[18:11] <xnv> joshual: I wasn't answering your question.
[18:11] <w0ls0n> hello all. I am using ubuntu-server and I  put into /etc/rc.local this command: csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &' but when I reboot, it doesn't start. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[18:11] <jpt9> Hey.
[18:11] <isaacj87> hey everyone...quick and easy question guys. I'm currently on openSUSE 11.1 beta 3, but I don't like the package manager/YaST. Does Kubuntu 8.10 use KDE 4.1.2 or have the latest version of KDE 4.x.x installed?
[18:11] <bozza> the only thing not working for me is my master volume at the moment XD .... will get support when the irc is less busy
[18:11] <joshual> oh sorry xnv
[18:11] <w0ls0n> bozza, it won't
[18:11] <bozza> haha
[18:11] <w0ls0n> bozza, this channel is ALWAYS busy
[18:11] <jpt9> The nifty Flash animation on ubuntu.com mentions 8.10 being able to run off USB keys, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere else on the site.
[18:11] <bozza> haha fair enough
[18:12] <sanguisdex> speaking of the upgrade cd, any one know why it crashes after "setting up the new software channels?
[18:12] <jpt9> How do you do that?
[18:12] <cousteau> which is the best way to upgrade? update-manager or alternate cd?
[18:12] <Guest59911> how do i add dictionaries to stardict?????
[18:12] <alessio> ciao
[18:12] <teamcobra> jpt9: install ubuntu, the tool is under administration
[18:12] <jacekowski> hi
[18:12] <jpt9> ah.
[18:12] <alessio> !list
[18:12] <bozza> i really wonder now if 8.10 will recognize the iphone and connect through 3G .. a reason to laugh at all the apple fan boys if linux can connect :D
[18:12] <jpt9> I figured it'd just work like one of those LiveCDs that happens to have a USB version.
[18:12] <jpt9> Can you do it from the LiveCD?
[18:12] <sanguisdex> cousteau:  I have always found getting the alt cd via bit torrent
[18:13] <eross> isaacj87 - in my experience, ubuntu comes with gnome installed, but you can install kde from the repos. The repos usually keep the latest stable release and not the unstable one.
[18:13] <sanguisdex> cousteau:  and mounting the ISO
[18:13] <gyven> eross: kubuntu is available with kde preinstalled
[18:13] <bozza> so anyone got an iphone ?
[18:13] <cousteau> ok, thanks
[18:13] <teamcobra> bozza: nokia n810 ;)
[18:13] <sanguisdex> cousteau but today it seems to keep crashing on me
[18:13] <leq-u-tix> i don't like kde
[18:13] <eross> gyven - true, forgot about the flavors
[18:13] <leq-u-tix> never have.. its not smooth or nice
[18:13] <bozza> teamcobra: i hear thats a nice phone :)
[18:14] <leq-u-tix> just my opinion
[18:14] <cousteau> maybe i'll md5sum it before installing
[18:14] <isaacj87> leq-u-tix: you should try it again. It's come a long way. KDE 4.2 should be pretty nice
[18:14] <avarus> you should :)
[18:14] <sanguisdex> that's a good idea
[18:14] <bozza> teamcobra does your phone work with 8.10 and internet
[18:14] <avarus> cousteau, I just wasted 10 mins for finding out the md5 sum doesn't match :P
[18:14] <eross> i'm running xfce on my gaming rig
[18:14] <leq-u-tix> yea i tried 8.10 rc kubuntu
[18:14] <tjbro> Hey is there something I can install for better power management on ubuntu?
[18:14] <stemount> oh...
[18:14] <leq-u-tix> just seems so klunky
[18:15] <teamcobra> bozza: does everything except "phone" stuff... so no ;p ;p
[18:15] <cousteau> well, sometimes I burned a liveCD with a wrong ISO and couldn't install it
[18:15] <bozza> haha
[18:15] <feanor> andromeda51
[18:15] <columbus> how long does it take to erase a dvd rw in brasero?
[18:15] <darkvertex> can anyone tell me how to mount an iso image?
[18:15] <Ergo^> hey, i thought that flash and pulseaudio WAS fixed ??
[18:15] <w0ls0n> hello all. I am using ubuntu-server and I  put into /etc/rc.local this command: csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &' but when I reboot, it doesn't start. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[18:15] <Ergo^> (in intrepid)
[18:15] <avarus> darkvertex, mount -o loop
[18:16] <joaopinto> w0ls0n, make sure you add it before the exit 0
[18:16] <leq-u-tix> darkvertex mount -o loop -t iso9660 imagename.iso  mountpoint
[18:16] <w0ls0n> ahhh
[18:16] <cousteau> darkvertex: sudo mount -o loop image.iso /dev/disk
[18:16] <jacekowski> i've got strange problem related to kde guidance power manager
[18:16] <isaacj87> leq-u-tix: Yeah, Kubuntu doesn't have tight KDE 4.x.x integration. openSUSE handles it a little better
[18:16] <jacekowski> acpi is working 100% fine
[18:16] <columbus> how long does it take to erase a dvd rw in brasero?
[18:16] <excitatory> are the ATI restricted drivers in ibex suppose to be better?  they feel slower.. also, does the default open driver support compiz well?  if so, i would consider that.
[18:16] <cousteau> (first create the mountpoint)
[18:16] <thunar1> happy ubuntu 8.10
[18:17] <darkvertex> avarus, costeau, l﻿eq-u-tix: thanks guys
[18:17] <Thx1> hi everybody
[18:17] <flipwich> whats the IM client that was added in 8.10?
[18:17] <TuniX12> hello
[18:17] <thunar1> HI
[18:17] <isaacj87> Hey Thx1
[18:17] <bozza> i have nero linux :D
[18:17] <jacekowski> it doesn't detect AC supply state correctly
[18:17] <leq-u-tix> download nero linux
[18:17] <thunar1> flipwich: why dont you install it and find out????
[18:17] <bozza> the only thing i paid for .. nero linux :D
[18:17] <flipwich> thunar1: i did.
[18:17] <cousteau> and I have Matlab linux
[18:17] <Anveo_> Is there a way to upgrade 8.04 from a non-alternate iso image?
[18:17] <avarus> bozza, what a waste of money
[18:17] <sanguisdex> cousteau: you need the alt cd not the live one to upgrade
[18:17] <leq-u-tix> NeroLinux is way better than brasserio
[18:17] <ssam> flipwich, empathy
[18:17] <flipwich> oh, thanks
[18:18] <thunar1> flipwich: sweet what did you FIND?
[18:18] <TuniX12> leq-u-tix: sure
[18:18] <sanguisdex> Anveo_: a newwork upgrade
[18:18] <winterelf> hi, i need to know if i m using the wireless driver iwl3945 , what is the command to check that out?
[18:18] <bozza> avarus . it was really cheap . plus its awesome software :)
[18:18] <avarus> :P
[18:18] <Guest42875> anyone have a good suggestion for a high res monitor on the cheep?
[18:18] <deepfriedsquirre> When I boot Ubuntu from USB, it is horrifically, painfully slow. What can I do to make it run at a decent speed?
[18:18] <Anveo_> sanguisdex: thanks
[18:18] <Mafioso_d> :D
[18:18] <leq-u-tix> use a USB2 port
[18:18] <leq-u-tix> instead of 1.1
[18:18] <Thx1> i'm sorry for my english...i have a problem with audio (82801I chipset) on my HP 1020el
[18:18] <Mafioso_d> hi alllllllllllllllllll
[18:18] <deepfriedsquirre> leg-u-tix: it is usb2
[18:18] <lolman> deepfriedsquirre, faster flash drive?
[18:18] <sanguisdex> any one know where I can get an md5 checksum for the alt cd to compare with?
[18:19] <Mafioso_d> how to order ubuntu?
[18:19] <leq-u-tix> is it a flash drive
[18:19] <leq-u-tix> or usb harddrive
[18:19] <sanguisdex> Anveo_: it will be slow
[18:19] <deepfriedsquirre> lolman: It's Kingston and 8GB
[18:19] <leq-u-tix> flashdrives are slow
[18:19] <leq-u-tix> period
[18:19] <Mafioso_d> heloo
[18:19] <deepfriedsquirre> leg-u-tix: yes, flash
[18:19] <leq-u-tix> they are the floppies of the modern age
[18:19] <TuniX12> why ubuntu is becoming more and more slow
[18:19] <Mafioso_d> how i can order the ubuntu?
[18:19] <sanguisdex> Anveo_: the newwork repos are on fire atm
[18:19] <cousteau> sanguisdex: when I installed from liveCD it was because the old install got broken
[18:19] <Anveo_> sanguisdex: I already have the normal install cd though
[18:19] <flipwich> TuniX12: i don't know what you are talking about
[18:19] <teicah> where can I find the list of ingridients in the DVD?
[18:19] <Mafioso_d> how i can order the ubuntu?
[18:19] <Guest42875> my monitor is going out...  Any suggestions for a 1920x1440 on the cheep?
[18:19] <flipwich> i'm at my login in about 30 seconds
[18:19] <deepfriedsquirre> leg-u-tix: Well, I fixed it up to make it boot to RAM but that means I can't have th persistence option
[18:20] <ciscbrain> Mafioso_d: must you order? if  you can, please download
[18:20] <mkartic> hey, wat are the options i got in desktop environments? apart from xfce, gnome and kde!
[18:20] <leq-u-tix> still tile transferse are slow to usb flash drives
[18:20] <flipwich> mkartic: those are the main 3
[18:20] <cousteau> i'm downloading the alternate right now (via torrent)
[18:20] <leq-u-tix> its not for regular use.. just for fixing shit
[18:20] <Guest42875> my monitor is going out...  Any suggestions for a 1920x1440 on the cheep?
[18:20] <leq-u-tix> cdrom is faster
[18:20] <Mafioso_d> but the file is too big?where can i buy ubuntu?
[18:20] <leq-u-tix> but sometimes u can't boot from cdrom
[18:20] <mkartic> am looking for something light, [lighter than xfce:-\]
[18:20] <leq-u-tix> so usb works
[18:20] <thunar1> Mafioso_d: Send $199 to my pay-pal account to order Ubuntu.
[18:21] <ciscbrain> leq-u-tix: my usb stick gets 30 MB/s
[18:21] <ciscbrain> cdroms are *not* faster
[18:21] <Thx1> I have ubuntu 8.10 64bit installed on HP 1020el (chipset 82801I)..sound is alway on loop and i can never listen mp3 or other...only the drums in loop.Can you help me?
[18:21] <sanguisdex> leq-u-tix:  best buy sells it
[18:21] <musictoto> Mafioso_d: you can order a free cd at the ubuntu.com website
[18:21] <deepfriedsquirre> leg-u-tix: Ah, well I did it with the hope that I could use it instead of a hard drive now that I've corrupted my partition table
[18:21] <piksi-> Mafioso_d: you can order the cd's from ubuntu homepage
[18:21] <neW1> w00t !!!
[18:21] <deepfriedsquirre> Clearly I was deluded
[18:21] <Anveo_> FREE UBUNTU CD: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[18:21] <Mafioso_d> that's free?
[18:21] <ciscbrain> but don't order unless you can't download
[18:21] <piksi-> yeah
[18:21] <musictoto> Mafioso_d: yes the shipit cd's are free
[18:21] <flipwich> Mafioso_d: yeah but it takes weeks to arrive.
[18:22] <Mafioso_d> :D
[18:22] <Midtronic> I'm having a weird issue with CDs/dvds...  I've got 2 optical drives (1 DVD; 1 CD-ROM), when I put in a disc I get this: http://paste.linuxassist.net/21915 -- if I put a disc in after a fresh restart, things seem to work.  Any ideas?
[18:22] <leq-u-tix> i've never gotton more than 3 or 4 megs/sec frmo my pen drives
[18:22] <leq-u-tix> but they must be crap these days
[18:22] <Mafioso_d> wow amazing..=))
[18:22] <musictoto> Mafioso_d: it takes about 4 to 6 weeks for the cd's to arrive at your home adress, but they're free
[18:22] <ciscbrain> leq-u-tix: there are tons of flash drives out there
[18:22] <lolman> leq-u-tix, my pen drive will pull 20MB/s ish and it's quite old now
[18:23] <leq-u-tix> guess i'll have to upgrade
[18:23] <ciscbrain> leq-u-tix: buy a corsair or an sandisk PD-7
[18:23] <Mafioso_d> yeah that's free bro,thanks ubunntu :D
[18:23] <W8TAH> if i build a program from source, and need to remove it to install an updated version, and i have the install manifest file, if i remove the files listed there from those locations, that will uninstall it, right?
[18:23] <gustavo> Using the command line, how can I know the space used by a directory and its subdirectories?
[18:23] <thunar1> Ubuntu rocks!  Ubuntu sucks!  Ubuntu exists! Ubuntu is dead!  Yea!
[18:23] <Midtronic> gustavo:  du
[18:23] <Midtronic> gustavo:  probably du -h
[18:23] <leq-u-tix> w8tah don't u build a deb package before u install
[18:24] <leq-u-tix> then u don't run into these issues
[18:24] <flipwich> leq-u-tix: extra work
[18:24] <leq-u-tix> i think there's a method to compile and make a package
[18:24] <leq-u-tix> then when u install u can uninstall easily
[18:24] <flipwich> why not just compile and then use the manifest
[18:24] <W8TAH> leq-u-tix, no -- i cant find reasonable documentation on how to do that -- the only .deb building docs that i have found require a build host
[18:24] <Zeit|awy> du -ch
[18:24] <gustavo> Midtronic, thanks!
[18:25] <thunar1> su
[18:25] <thunar1> rm -rf /
[18:25] <jwoo> Is anyone having problems installing ubuntu 8.10 because they're being thrown into a initramdisk prompt ?
[18:25] <pppoe_dude> hello. Trying to install intrepid from a local partition. Any ideas why the partitioner gives me a blank page?
[18:25] <leq-u-tix> jwoo try save graphic  mode
[18:25] <pppoe_dude> thunar1: please don't do that here
[18:25] <thunar1> jwoo: yes, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
[18:26] <DrNick1> blimey, bit quiet in here considering its release day :p
[18:26] <W8TAH> flipwich - ????
[18:26] <W8TAH> thunar1, thats a low trick - not nice
[18:26] <pppoe_dude> !ops
[18:26] <jwoo> thunar1: you i should overwrite my sda1 with random? i might as well do a if=/dev/zero
[18:27] <Guest42875> my monitor is going out...  Any suggestions for a 1920x1440 on the cheep?
[18:27] <jerbear> every time i've tried to upgrade from one version of ubuntu to another, something always gets messed up and i end up having to just reinstall from scratch. anyone upgraded from hardy to ibex? anything i should be aware of?
[18:27] <linuxkrn> hey guys, did an upgrade to 8.10 and cannot get the binary drivers installed.  When I try to activate them it says my xorg.conf is invalid.  Yet I've deleted it and used the failsafe.
[18:27] <jwoo> leq-u-tix -- ubuntu 8.10-RC has no problem installing, but ubuntu 8.10 kicks me into initramdisk/busybox prompt
[18:27] <DrNick1> jerbear: i always just re-install :)
[18:27] <Bodsda> whenever i try to resize an ntfs partition on a laptop (1 hdd) i get errors, is there a proper way to resize an ntfs partition using gparted?
[18:27] <Midtronic> Guest42875:  I have a slightly smaller (1680x1050) Acer and it's been great to me
[18:28] <Midtronic> reasonably priced, as well.
[18:28] <magnetron> jerbear→ the release notes contains everything you need to be aware of
[18:28] <ciscbrain> linuxkrn: afaik you don't need a xorg.conf at all
[18:28] <jerbear> DrNick1: ditto, but i wish i didn't have to
[18:28] <jimdb> all i can say about the ubuntu 8.10 upgrade is *OUCH*
[18:28] <DrNick1> I have my /home on a seperate partition (seperate drive actually), so none of my documents + settings get lost. always have a backup tho...
[18:28] <jerbear> magnetron: can you point me to the release notes?
[18:28] <linuxkrn> ciscbrain, the binary driver tool won't let me install the drivers though
[18:28] <jerbear> DrNick1: yeh, same here.. separate home drive
[18:28] <Linus_Trovalds> :D
[18:29] <avarus> there must be something wrong with the uploaded amd64 iso...no matter where I download it, it has a different md5 :/
[18:29] <phoochka> anyone else stuck at "waiting for headers"? I assume its going to take a while today
[18:29] <magnetron> jerbear→ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[18:29] <avarus> but it's always the same wrong md5 :P
[18:29] <ciscbrain> linuxkrn: if you delete xorg.conf entirely do you still get an error saying it's invalid?
[18:29] <linuxkrn> ciscbrain, yes
[18:29] <Pici> !notes
[18:29] <DrNick1> avarus: installed it fine here using the iso from Oxford Computing in the UK
[18:29] <Guest42875> ]whats reasonably priced priced at?
[18:29] <Mimi> avarus, are you using official torrent?
[18:29] <avarus> DrNick1, thanks for the hint...will try it from there
[18:29] <W8TAH> hate to ask again folks but both people that were helping me left -- i have a package that i compiled from source that i need to remove -- if i go through the install_manifest.txt and remove the files listed - -will that uninstall it?
[18:29] <magnetron> phoochka→ that happens if you use the main repos. use a mirror instead
[18:30] <avarus> Mimi, no, from some mirror
[18:30] <Guest42875> mine thats going out is an acer... I haste it
[18:30] <Linus_Trovalds> :D
[18:30] <ciscbrain> W8TAH: if you still have the sources you can try make uninstall
[18:30] <phoochka> magnetron, ok thanks
[18:30] <Guest42875> hate
[18:30] <W8TAH> ahh - cool idea -- ok
[18:30] <Flannel> W8TAH: That's how you have to install compiled software, yes, by just removing all of the files (either manually, or make uninstall)
[18:30] <Mimi> W8TAH,  I believe you type make uninstall in the original sources.
[18:30] <anita_> hi how can I update to the 8.10 from the terminal
[18:30] <anita_> thx
[18:30] <Pici> !upgrade > anita_
[18:30] <W8TAH> Flannel, Mimi thank you
[18:30] <joaopinto> anita_, do-release-upgrade
[18:31] <Flannel> !upgrade | anita_
[18:31] <jerbear> how is the multi display support in the admin tools? does that actually work in ibex?
[18:31] <sahak> hello
[18:31] <Mimi> avarus, could you try using the torrent like this: tell the torrent to download to the folder where you ISO is at. the torrent will see what you have, and what is on the server, and will adjust your ISO to the new md5
[18:31] <ciscbrain> I have the mouse set to "left handed", but after upgrating to intrepid, if remove it an then plug it back it becomes right-handed. any clues?
[18:31] <sahak> i am having problems upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10. it can't find kernel packages
[18:31] <bozza> hey whats like the percentage of ubuntu users compared to windows and mac
[18:31] <Guest42875> my monitor is going out...  Any suggestions for a 1920x1440 on the cheep?
[18:31] <jimdb> seems that the upgrade of ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 essentially disabled my computer.  it happened after I rebooted and told it to use the nvidia drivers.  editing the /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf file to use the standard nv driver doesn't resolve the issue.  I understand that Xorg made some changes that were supposed to only affect early versions of the nvidia chipsets. This one is affecting my 8800GTS (512mb) cards.
[18:31] <avarus> Mimi, hey, that's a brilliant idea :)
[18:32] <magnetron> jerbear→ yes, unless you use the nvidia restricted drivers. in that case, use the nvidia config tool instead
[18:32] <Mimi> avarus,  yes it is! Hope it works :P
[18:32] <avarus> let's see :P
[18:32] <ciscbrain> bozza: probably like 1-2% vs 88% windows vs. ~8% mac
[18:32] <sahak> are torrents overloaded?
[18:32] <jerbear> magnetron: i do, every time i've used that config tool, it seems to mess my xorg.conf file up more
[18:32] <sfears> any help with system halt while loading avahi & network managers at boot up? my system will only complete boot if the linksys pci card is inserted
[18:33] <anita_> thx joapinto
[18:33] <bozza> ok . damm . ubuntu with compiz and what not is easily the best
[18:33] <anita_> and cia
[18:33] <jerbear> boo compiz
[18:33] <MaximLevitsky> How can I run a script of gnome shutdown
[18:33] <Linux_Man> i need girl friend,why i don't have girl friend?
[18:34] <bozza> why boo ?
[18:34] <MaximLevitsky> I need to stop azureus correctly
[18:34] <ciscbrain> linuxkrn: try to reconfigure xorg; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:34] <sahak> Linux_Man: linus torvalds has a girlfriend
[18:34] <Linux_Man> :D
[18:34] <linuxkrn> ciscbrain, did that already
[18:34] <bozza> compiz is awesome . why u not like it ?
[18:34] <Midtronic> Linux_Man:  I recommend Emacs' psychiatrist.
[18:34] <linuxkrn> ciscbrain, still same error
[18:34] <isaacj87> sahak: really? haha
[18:34] <jerbear> compiz is just plain unnecessary
[18:34] <Mimi> he has a wife and a  baby.. well probably is a teenager now  :P
[18:34] <magnetron> sahak→ Linux_Man he has a wife, even
[18:34] <linuxkrn> ciscbrain, and I've restarted gdm (between tries)
[18:34] <Linux_Man> lol
[18:35] <bozza> jerbear . but its awesome :D
[18:35] <ciscbrain> linuxkrn: I know it sounds lame, but try a restart :)
[18:35] <bozza> its so convinent
[18:35] <bozza> switching from different desktops
[18:35] <sahak> bozza: i have some weird bug with compiz. can you open firefox in fullscreen mode (by pressing F11). and then open a terminal. then try to switch between them by pressing Ctrl+Tab. do you get weird flashes?
[18:35] <jerbear> bozza: i won't deny that it's awesome looking, but that's it, it's cosmetic
[18:35] <ciscbrain> maybe you've just installed a new kernel and the instaleer is confused about which modules to build
[18:35] <avarus> Mimi, it downloads from the beginning, but good idea :)
[18:35] <sahak> bozza: Alt+Tab instead of Ctrl+Tab
[18:35] <jimdb> he's trying to imply that if you use linux you are socially ill-equipped.  An old argument that they use to use against anyone that even touched a computer.   fortunately though the average linux user has their spouse or significant other.  I think he's a troll.
[18:35] <bozza> saha 1 sec let me check
[18:36] <ciscbrain> jerbear: not quite, I get a lot of tearing without it
[18:36] <r3l1c> hi .... can any of the advanced user answer few simple question ?     1. what is the max ram running i386 ?   2. Does wine support multicore processing ?
[18:36] <ciscbrain> jerbear: especially on my eee
[18:36] <sfears> sahak: play with the advanced desktop effects settings for your switchers in the window manager.. mabey one of the settings for the cube or ring switcher is incorrect
[18:36] <mongolai> jerbear:  I'll agree with you for the most part, but I really like the taskbar window jpreview feature
[18:36] <jerbear> ciscbrain: tearing? you've got something configured incorrectly then
[18:36] <ciscbrain> jerbear: no, it's just that the eee is slow
[18:36] <mirash> how to delete or resize a partition using ubuntu?
[18:37] <sahak> sfears: i don't have those things enabled
[18:37] <jimdb> r31lc:  4 gigs minus those complents using upper memory address for hardware (such as your video cards)
[18:37] <r3l1c> mirash - gparted
[18:37] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how to remove the 'connection' icon on the panel?
[18:37] <mirash> how?
[18:37] <ericjung> install ubuntu on 16MB?
[18:37] <jerbear> ciscbrain: and you think using compiz improves its speed?
[18:37] <jimdb> components*
[18:37] <sfears> system/preferences/advanced desktop effects... when that window opens click on advanced.. see what plugin uses the alt+tab command and play with the settings in that plugin
[18:37] <ciscbrain> jerbear: I was just as surprised as you seem to be, but yes
[18:37] <bozza> nope no weird flashes for me
[18:37] <adante> hi, i am looking for a program like winsplit revolution for ubuntu, so i can resize my windows based on hotkeys - does such a program exist?
[18:37] <sfears> any help with system halt while loading avahi & network managers at boot up? my system will only complete boot if the linksys pci card is inserted
[18:37] <mirash> in command line?
[18:37] <jimdb> r31lc:  but you also have limits of the chipsets used by the manufacturer
[18:37] <DIFH-iceroot> ericjung: 10mb of what? ram, hdd?
[18:37] <mongolai> mikebeecham:  did you try right-clicking and "Remove from Panel..." ?
[18:37] <DIFH-iceroot> ericjung: 16mb
[18:37] <bozza> also i use super+tab to switch between windows . and thats fine as well
[18:37] <ericjung> DIFH-iceroot ram
[18:38] <mikebeecham> mongolai: does not include that option
[18:38] <ciscbrain> jerbear: and even on my desktop, if I drag the chat windows over firefox, for example, you can still see parts of firefox redrawing
[18:38] <mikebeecham> it's my wired network icon
[18:38] <Ax3> both md5 comparisons failed... very suprising
[18:38] <DIFH-iceroot> ericjung: maybe DSL is better for you
[18:38] <ciscbrain> jerbear: but with compiz you don't get that
[18:38] <bpgoldsb> Anyone know an ubuntu mirror that ISNT slammed?
[18:38] <sfears> bpgoldsb: torrents
[18:38] <mirash> how to resize a partition?
[18:38] <bpgoldsb> sfears: For aptitude updates, not for full release
[18:38] <ciscbrain> mirash: which type?
[18:38] <anita_> sorry there is a problem is says "an  unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"
[18:38] <jerbear> ciscbrain: i've never seen that with any of my machines.. from the slowest to the fastest.. i think you have something wrong with your configuration
[18:39] <d0wn> i'm getting 600kb/s from my mirror. i'm using ussg.iu.org
[18:39] <avarus> Ax3, here, too...I'm now downloading from oxford :)
[18:39] <ark3qqq> Anybody know of a tool to prevent idle timeout? On Windows I have this little program called Caffeine that simulates a shift key release once a minute to prevent screensavers, etc.
[18:39] <Ax3> avarus, yea wtf is going on lol
[18:39] <mongolai> mikebeecham:  that's odd, I got rid of mine that way. Perhaps try some arcane gconf-editor setting?!
[18:39] <avarus> highloaded servers :)
[18:39] <jacekowski> ark3qqq: on linux you can just disable DPMS
[18:39] <gotiniens> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz <-- I'm searching that file for intrepid, cannot find id
[18:39] <lordyk> Use the bit torrent if you can
[18:39] <jacekowski> ark3qqq: and all other power managment features
[18:39] <devilbones> has anyone played around with installing ubuntu intrepid ibex on the sony vaio vgn fw140e/w? i can't seem to get the graphics drivers or wireless to work
[18:39] <sanguisdex> ark3qqq: you could make a cron job
[18:40] <ark3qqq> jacekowski: I'm looking for something that will simulate a keypress or twiddle the mouse slightly so that other stuff doesn't time out.
[18:40] <newb> #cross-lfs
[18:40] <ciscbrain> jerbear: try to load youtube on firefox and then drag gcalctool over it, and you'll see some white bands next to the calc window
[18:40] <ark3qqq> sanguisdex: A cron job to do what?
[18:40] <Thylacine> just made a live usb and grub gives an error, what can i do?
[18:40] <sahak> bozza: was your firefox in full screen? can you press alt+tab, select firefox, and then hold the Alt button pressed
[18:40] <sanguisdex> press shift
[18:40] <mirash> i hav a FAR32 partion. I want to delete it and make a ext3 from half of it and a fat32 from the other half
[18:40] <Lancelot_> oh my god! why is everything on Ubuntu so blocky? I can't run anything from windows that I love/need, like skype, windows live mail, and iTunes!!!!!
[18:40] <ark3qqq> sanguisdex: How do I do that?
[18:40] <mirash> how?
[18:40] <jerbear> ciscbrain: i don't
[18:40] <Mimi> avarus,  any luck with the md5sum  ?
[18:41] <Lancelot_> oh my god! why is everything on Ubuntu so blocky? I can't run anything from windows that I love/need, like skype, windows live mail, and iTunes!!!!!
[18:41] <trimeta> I heard that USB stick installs are officially supported in Ibex. Where can I go to read more about this, in particular how to convert an ISO into a USB install?
[18:41] <dany_21a_> Lancelot_: Linux (ubuntu) is not windows
[18:41] <Lancelot_> i know
[18:41] <mirash> s/FAR/FAT
[18:41] <mikebeecham> nope...no option to remove it that I can see
[18:41] <Lancelot_> i realised that...
[18:41] <Bodsda> !lnw > Lancelot_
[18:41] <dany_21a_> Lancelot_: okay...good start
[18:41] <sanguisdex> we could compare md5's here
[18:41] <dany_21a_> !skype | Lancelot_
[18:41] <sahak> torrents seem to have saturated. the number of leechers is going down.
[18:41] <devilbones> ubuntu intrepid on sony vaio vgn fw140e/w? anyone?
[18:41]  * trimeta leaches the torrents
[18:41] <lordyk> the 64bit torrent is running well for me
[18:42] <avarus> Mimi, not yet...still downloading :)
[18:42] <sanguisdex> I got the alt cd in 13 mins
[18:42] <avarus> Mimi, I'll let you know
[18:42] <Dextorion> hey
[18:42] <trimeta> At least if you consider a 15 kb/s upload, 245 kb/s download a leach...
[18:42] <sanguisdex> via comcast
[18:42] <lordyk> I see twice as many seeds as peers, currently maxing my d/l
[18:42] <Lancelot_> i just don't like that I can't run any of the programs that I want anymore...
[18:42] <ark3qqq> Can anyone suggest a way to simulate a benign keypress or twiddle the mouse slightly?
[18:42] <trimeta> Anyway, anyone know how to put the ISO on a USB stick so it'll boot and have a persistent home directory and all that stuff?
[18:42] <jerbear> Lancelot_: maybe you would prefer windows then?
[18:42] <Mimi> ark3qqq,  like a macro?
[18:42] <ogsc> ark3qqq: what are you trying to prevent?
[18:42] <mongolai> heh, I'm currently leeching a BT ibex, and it is going s l o w. That's ok, though...
[18:43] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:43] <user1949> what repos should I add into Synaptic?
[18:43] <joshual> anyone know if there is a cutting edge wine repository for ubuntu?
[18:43] <csilk> I cant seem to find the MD% hash for cheking intrepids integrity?
[18:43] <ark3qqq> ogsc: Primarily it's for Citrix, but it's handy in other cases too.
[18:43] <Dillizar> how can i see what is my socket of my processor?
[18:43] <lordyk> BT was crawling for me too at first, has picked up greatly since
[18:43] <csilk> **MD5
[18:43] <sahak> have to reboot into ubuntu 8.10
[18:43] <sahak> bye
[18:43] <psusi> trimeta: you don't put the iso on a usb stick but yuo can get a live system on one... search the wiki, I think there was a page there describing how
[18:43] <avarus> csilk, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <-- ha!
[18:43] <avarus> :)
[18:43] <Lancelot_> sigh
[18:43] <jerbear> joshual: yes at wine hq
[18:43] <bozza> add jack the repo :D
[18:43] <sanguisdex> joshual: wine has it own repo
[18:43] <ark3qqq> ogsc: To clarify, I want to avoid the Citrix session timing out.
[18:43] <Lancelot_> sorry, i just needed to vent...
[18:43] <mongolai> avarus:  that's the one
[18:43] <trimeta> Dillizar: cat /proc/cpuinfo, maybe?
[18:43] <Alejo-Expat> hi, the colour balance controls in my totem don't work... i googled to see if it was a known issue but i didn't find anything. Any ideas?
[18:44] <trimeta> psusi: I heard that there was something more official about USB installs in this version...
[18:44] <user1949> is there like a good all around all software type repo to add?
[18:44] <avarus> damn, I shouldn't have mentioned oxford :P
[18:44] <csilk> thanks avarus . Any idea if there is a good way to check the integrity of an iso burned to disk or is that unrealistic?
[18:44] <avarus> now it's frecking slow
[18:44] <devilbones> geez i guess no one here has tried to install intrepid on a sony vaio vgn fw140e/w then
[18:44] <avarus> csilk, check the file, should be enough
[18:44] <lordyk> csilk, you can boot from the cd and check it that way
[18:44] <chad1> How do i change the order items in my session autoload start?
[18:45] <psusi> trimeta: not that I know of... I just know that you don't just drop the iso image on one
[18:45] <jerbear> ark3qqq: you could try something like: http://www.sandklef.com/xnee/
[18:45] <Serraphyn> devilbones, might read topic and notice thats offtopic here
[18:45] <joshual> thx jerbear, sanguisdex
[18:45] <sanguisdex> csilk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20CD
[18:45] <Pici> Can we take the torrent speed conversations to a different channel, like #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu-offtopic . Thanks.
[18:45] <clahey> How do I debug a kernel panic when running ubuntu?
[18:45] <trimeta> psusi: Oh, of course not.
[18:45] <Dillizar> trimeta: nope it doesnt show the socket
[18:45] <tonyyarusso> csilk: The Ubuntu CDs have a built in integrity test mode.
[18:45] <remu> Hey everyone! I'm trying to solve a problem. I'm trying to get Audio/Video working between my mother (ubuntu) and her sister(windows). What are my options, and are there any guides out there? I tried using skype, but skype doesn't recognize my moms webcam, I attempted using ekiga and qutecom, but I'm inexperienced with sip so don't know how to get it working properly.
[18:45] <remu> Any hints?
[18:45] <gotiniens> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz <-- I'm searching that file for intrepid, cannot find id
[18:45] <devilbones> what channel should i go to then?
[18:45] <trimeta> psusi: I was wondering if there were some "official" way of converting the contents of the ISO into a format that would boot properly.
[18:45] <Serraphyn> -offtopic
[18:45] <avarus> can't be! it's always the same wrong md5 :/
[18:46] <Serraphyn> or the release # in topic
[18:46] <avarus> Ax3, f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:46] <avarus> please compare
[18:46] <ark3qqq> jerbear: That could work. Thanks! I'm surprised there isn't a more targeted solution, though.
[18:46] <trimeta> Dillizar: If you know what processor you have, you could check the Wikipedia for its socket, maybe...
[18:46] <csilk> lordyk, thats a pretty basic and error prone way
[18:46] <csilk> tonyyarusso, sanguisdex  thanks
[18:46] <Pici> gotiniens: Should be in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[18:46] <jerbear> ark3qqq: targeted solution? how many times do you need to do such a thing?
[18:46] <lolnoob> What is gnome keywrapper?
[18:46] <Alejo-Expat> hi all! problems with totem when playing a video: the colour balance controls in my totem don't work... i googled to see if it was a known issue but i didn't find anything. Any ideas?
[18:47] <lordyk> well the check cd option on boot up has worked well for me in the past
[18:47] <Ax3> avarus, that's what I got, before I deleted it
[18:47] <pwnedulongtime> anyone else having problems reconfiguring vmware for 8.10?
[18:47] <chad1> How do i change the order items in my session autoload start?
[18:47] <ark3qqq> jerbear: On windows there's this little app called Caffeine that simulates a shift release every minute. Very handy just for this purpose.
[18:47] <Ax3> avarus, but that's NOT what the md5sum page indicates
[18:47] <Serraphyn> !8.10
[18:47] <Ax3> avarus, not sure what to make of it
[18:47] <avarus> Ax3, will be the same for the new download as well...
[18:47] <Pici> gotiniens: The site is slow right now, so just be patient
[18:47] <hiswacko> hey
[18:47] <Serraphyn> so 8.10 is out?
[18:47] <Serraphyn> !isitout
[18:47] <Chousuke> yes
[18:47] <sanguisdex> f9e0494e91abb2de4929ef6e957f7753  ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[18:47] <hiswacko> is it safe to update from hardy heron to intrepid ibex?
[18:47] <pusselgenerator> Serraphyn: Correct.
[18:47] <jerbear> ark3qqq: yes, and you can write your own app with xnee, or anything else that you can think of
[18:47] <stimpie> Serraphyn, yes it is!
[18:48] <Serraphyn> Ah sweet
[18:48] <stimpie> I just upgraded
[18:48] <pwnedulongtime> vmware anyone??
[18:48] <ark3qqq> jerbear: Yep, as I said, that should work. Thanks much.
[18:48] <Pici> !isitout
[18:48] <avarus> sanguisdex, and that iso works? on the torrentpage is a different md5 :)
[18:48] <Cochese> hi all
[18:48] <Serraphyn> pwnedulongtime, might ask in #vmware
[18:48] <sanguisdex> avarus: nope
[18:48] <jerbear> ark3qqq: you can even package it and call it xcaffeine :)
[18:48] <NickieFerrante> Hi guys; just upgraded my other pc to Intrepid, but it doesn't like the driver I was using for my graphics card so is refusing to display anything. When I launch it with the internal driver then I can't see any option to install a new one for the ATI graphics card, so how can I get it working?
[18:48] <sanguisdex> it dies
[18:48] <stimpie> issue is that I cant find the network manager
[18:48] <sfears> does anyone know of a program i can run from a live cd session to remove spyware from a non running windows machine?
[18:48] <sanguisdex> but I could not find the ISO's listed anywhere
[18:48] <avarus> sanguisdex, I/O error at 60%?
[18:48] <ark3qqq> I'm off to play.
[18:49] <jimdb> nickieferrante:  welcome to the crowd
[18:49] <Cochese> trying to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04...... problems.
[18:49] <winterelf> does anyone know when we use only ipwraw with nothing more, what does that do to my wireless card?
[18:49] <calc> pwnedulongtime: what was the vmware question?
[18:49] <NauarchLysander> How can I return to the default fonts in Gnome? There's no default button.
[18:49] <calc> pwnedulongtime: i might know the answer :
[18:49] <calc> :
[18:49] <calc> er :)
[18:49] <jerbear> sfears: i doubt it, the only one i know of is fdisk
[18:49] <sfears> Cochese: i read that the servers are extremely loaded, might be why you have problems
[18:49] <sfears> thanks jerbear
[18:49] <pwnedulongtime> calc: cannot reconfig
[18:50] <pwnedulongtime> calc: make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1
[18:50] <lebanni> salut est ce que quelqu'un sais comment on installe avec cmake ou a deja installé vidalia l'interface graph de tor ??
[18:50] <calc> pwnedulongtime: it works for me with vmware 6.5
[18:50] <sanguisdex> avarus: what URL do you see md5's listed?
[18:50] <stimpie> lebanni, english please
[18:50] <Cochese> sfears, I followed the instructions to allow upgrade of normal releases. Will it show any error message?
[18:50] <hiswacko> ty
[18:50] <Pici> !fr | lebanni
[18:50] <Serraphyn> pwnedulongtime, virtualbox 2.0 came out today also, might look at it since its free and better then vmware
[18:50] <i-unknown> lebanni: #ubuntu-fr
[18:50] <avarus> sanguisdex, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:50] <lebanni> sorry !!
[18:50] <calc> pwnedulongtime: there is a keyboard issue though but it is easy to fix you might already have worked around that?
[18:50] <avarus> sanguisdex, it has to be 82dc538278c54912f5b4f5da2bb9f17d577081d2
[18:50] <trimeta> Serraphyn: VirtualBox 2.0's been out for a while, now...
[18:50] <calc> pwnedulongtime: er keyboard issue if you try to run Ubuntu 8.10 inside of Vmware
[18:50] <i-unknown> lebanni: no problem :)
[18:50] <Serraphyn> lol I just got the email today :P
[18:50] <pwnedulongtime> calc: setxkbmap
[18:50] <calc> pwnedulongtime: no a different one
[18:51] <chad1> How do i change the order items in my session autoload start?
[18:51] <Ax3> virtualbox is NOT better than vmware lmfao
[18:51] <Ax3> never
[18:51] <calc> pwnedulongtime: i think that old issue is fixed with 6.5 now
[18:51] <Pici> !best
[18:51] <pusselgenerator> Serraphyn: Go for some RSS feeds, stay updated with everything.
[18:51] <Izinucs> Serraphyn: vmware is free too.. the server.. better?  just depends.. I've used both. and like them both
[18:51] <calc> pwnedulongtime: in ~/.vmware/config you need xkeymap.nokeycodeMap = "TRUE"
[18:51] <pusselgenerator> Serraphyn: Look up Google Reader, awesome stuff
[18:51] <calc> pwnedulongtime: otherwise up arrow will launch print screen app in gnome lol
[18:51] <Ax3> number one reason vmware > *...... *drumroll* UNITY
[18:51] <lolnoob> I ran accidently orca how shall I disable it?
[18:51]  * Serraphyn needs to come out of her cave more often
[18:51] <Serraphyn> When did VMWare go free?
[18:51] <NauarchLysander> How can I return to the default fonts in Gnome? There's no default button.
[18:52] <pyro_> If I wanted to view net traffic by port on my computer what's the easiest way?
[18:52] <trimeta> Serraphyn: As in beer, not speech.
[18:52] <trimeta> And just the viewer.
[18:52] <joaopinto> lolman, disable it from, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[18:52] <Ax3> pyrak, netstat and iftop
[18:52] <Izinucs> Serraphyn: server & player have been that way for a couple years
[18:52] <joaopinto> i mean, lolnoob
[18:52] <Ax3> pyro_, netstat and iftop
[18:52] <pyro_> ty
[18:52] <Mimi> NauarchLysander,   i believe default is the font called  Sans
[18:52] <dulak> trimeta: vmware server is free, not just the player
[18:52] <avarus> man, I was so enthusiastic this evening :P
[18:52] <lolman> joaopinto, tab complete fail ;)
[18:52] <trimeta> dulak: Still not as in speech.
[18:52] <Izinucs> trimeta: server is free too..
[18:52] <mongolai> dulak:  it was about a year ago
[18:52] <Serraphyn> ah well, i don't need either though I keep virtualbox on my systme just incase.. if it don't work in linux I don't want it
[18:52] <pwnedulongtime> calc:  error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory
[18:53] <i-unknown> joaopinto: pt?
[18:53] <joaopinto> i-unknown, yes, but not relevant for this channel :)
[18:53] <calc> pwnedulongtime: using vmware 6.5?
[18:54] <i-unknown> joaopinto: calma, so queria saber, nao precisa ser mal educado :)
[18:54] <Cochese> Is there a subforum for upgrading?
[18:54] <joaopinto> i-unknown, I wanted to avoid this, you breaking the channel rules, writing in pt.. please join #ubuntu-pt for that ;)
[18:54] <mattl> does anyone have any idea about this USB stuff in 8.10? can a user now create a usb version of their install OS to run on a usb key?
[18:54] <pwnedulongtime> calc: not sure...can't start it to check version. where did you download 6.5?
[18:54] <Ax3> $ md5sum ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:54] <Ax3> f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:54] <jerbear> anyone here use nomachine (not freenx)? does it gracefully handle compiz?
[18:54] <Ax3> WTF FAIL
[18:54] <FloodBot1> Ax3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <calc> pwnedulongtime: from vmware site
[18:54] <calc> pwnedulongtime: if its not 6.5 they might have a patch for it
[18:55] <pyro_> woo
[18:55] <andycas> I cant find NetworkManager?
[18:55] <pyro_> apt-p2p is cool :)
[18:55] <calc> pwnedulongtime: but 6.5 worked fine without any changes
[18:55] <joaopinto> Mattl, the usb installation is not based on the hd install, it requires the cdrom, that is the base image
[18:55] <pyro_> about time they integrated upgrades into a p2p system :)
[18:55] <i-unknown> joaopinto: no problem, my english's good enough, and i'm not here to ask any support question, i'm here to help
[18:55] <joaopinto> i-unknown, great :)
[18:55] <mattl> joaopinto: thansk.
[18:55] <Mimi> i-unknown,  hehehe he wans't trying to be mean, he just replied, and said that we don't allow any non english languages in this channel, we got other channels for other languages, including portuguese #ubuntu-pt  (which I always forget to go to even though im portuguese too >_< )
[18:56] <Ax3> avarus, I redownloaded it, and it's giving me the same md5sum
[18:56] <Ax3> shall I proceed?
[18:56] <Cochese> Why isn't the upgrade working? anyone else having issues?
[18:56] <avarus> hehe
[18:56] <avarus> Ax3, no :)
[18:56] <avarus> Ax3, I finished for today :)
[18:56] <avarus> I'll try it tomorrow
[18:56] <cowbellemoo> pyro_, how easy was it to configure?  I took one look at a how-to the other day and wilted
[18:56] <Ax3> this time it was via p2p and not http
[18:56] <Ax3> :S
[18:56] <avarus> oww
[18:56] <i-unknown> Mimi: not happening again :)
[18:56] <Izinucs> Cochese: the server are probably BUSY.. wait a couple of days.
[18:56] <avarus> man...I just started the torrent:(/
[18:56] <sd32> man... flock integrates with linux better then firefox
[18:56] <andycas> I upgraded to 8.10, but i cant see NetworkManagers GUI anymore. in terminal, the log looks fine
[18:56] <avarus> Ax3, ah, just give it a try and tell me :P
[18:57] <stimpie> andycas, I have the same issue
[18:57] <Cochese> Izinucs, thanks. Has anyone else got it to upgrade?
[18:57] <Pyrophelia> hmm
[18:57] <stimpie> andycas, after /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart it shows
[18:57] <Ax3> im not using a local x86_64 box, only i686, I can't attach to vmware right now
[18:57] <svh> can any one tell me how to setup my user  so i can delete file that keep telling me i do not have permission to delete
[18:57] <Pyrophelia> Has anybody used apt-p2p to upgrade to ibex yet?
[18:57] <Ax3> the i386 is almost done, so I'll test that in a virtual machine
[18:57] <HellMind> Where can I get the ubuntu-server netinstall?
[18:57] <jerbear> svh: where is the file?
[18:57] <avarus> Ax3, ya, the x86 could be OK :)
[18:58] <bpgoldsb> Anyone know an ubuntu mirror that ISNT slammed? For updating my cache, not for downloading intrepid
[18:58] <Serraphyn> Never understood peoples obession with upgrading the same day something comes out.. to many bugs and issues...
[18:58] <svh> in trash
[18:58] <Pyrophelia> I'm wondering if it's possible to limit the upstream.  I'm sending @ 540KBps :x
[18:58] <Descention> 8.10 supports a persitant usb installation, correct?  how is this done?
[18:58] <andycas> stimpie: nope, doesnt show after that either
[18:58] <Raito-> bpgoldsb: use the torrent?
[18:58] <trimeta> Descention: If you find out, tell me how.
[18:58] <dimedo> hi, where can i find the keyring from the package ubuntu-keyring to import the key into my personal keyring to verify the images i just downloaded, or is there an easier way?
[18:58] <Mimi> Pyrophelia,  in Transmission client?
[18:58] <jerbear> svh: you'll probably have to use sudo, i'm guessing the files are not owned by you
[18:58] <euxneks> Serraphyn, I upgrade _before_ it's released
[18:58] <euxneks> ;P
[18:58] <bpgoldsb> Raito-: I'm not downloading hte CD, I'm downloading packages for apt.
[18:58] <Pyrophelia> mimi: no, apt-p2p it's a p2p version of apt.
[18:58] <Cochese> Serraphyn, My obsession is getting modem usage ut of my Nokia E71 at work. Any other questions?
[18:58] <avarus> Ax3, highlight me if it works
[18:58] <avarus> thanks
[18:58] <bd_> dimedo: if you're already running ubuntu, you should have it already (from the previous version), I think
[18:59] <bd_> unless they changed the key
[18:59] <Raito-> bpgoldsb: ah. try a non-us mirror then?
[18:59] <Misterjos> hmz, upgrading gone wrong, 50 minutes "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" how long should it take normally to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[18:59] <bd_> in which case, upgrade that installation and you'll have the latest one :)
[18:59] <dimedo> bd_,  i have hardy, but the key is not in my personal keyring.
[18:59] <calc> i only had to update one package on my install to have 8.10 :)
[18:59] <svh> there old file that i created
[18:59] <Hentay> maybe someone know from where can i get CanonMF4 drivers?
[18:59] <Pyrophelia> Mimi, it's in the ibex repos but not hardy so I used a script I found of the torrentfreak website that explained how to dist upgrade using apt-p2p which works great but I'm wondering if it's possible limit the upstream a tad :)
[18:59] <Hentay> !canon
[18:59] <calc> HellMind: maybe on cdimage.ubuntu.com but its overloaded afaict
[19:00] <Sidtoner1> hello
[19:00] <Ax3> z$ md5sum ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:00] <Ax3> 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:00] <Ax3> md5 doesn't match that either
[19:00] <bd_> dimedo: ahh, dpkg -L ubuntu-keyring will tell you where it is
[19:00] <Ax3> testing in a virtual machine now regardless
[19:00] <Serraphyn> Cochese, I did not ask a question, so maybe get off your high horse and figure things out instead of thinking the new shiny nickel will make everything better.
[19:01] <frank23> what is a good torrent client with rss feed support? Transmission doesn't seem to do it
[19:01] <Pyrophelia> I'm on fios so it's not like 500KB is a big hit to my ping but it would be nice to figure out where the .conf is.  that wasn't explained very well in the torrentfreak blog.
[19:01] <magnetron> frank23→ deluge
[19:01] <andycas> stimpie: ah, NetworkManager was having an issue with keyring manager, fixed now
[19:01] <Pyrophelia> so nobody here has used apt-p2p yet? :(
[19:01] <Raito-> Misterjos	hmz, upgrading gone wrong, 50 minutes "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" how long should it take normally to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?   <-- you sure its still processing? It keeps saying that, then has "changes applied" in the tops ection of the window. Gets me every time
[19:01] <frank23> magnetron: I'll look into it
[19:01] <Omoikane> Okay, I installed Ibex and now my mute button doesn't work.
[19:01] <Cochese> Serraphyn, try the nickel for 5 cents worth of class.
[19:01] <magnetron> frank23→ get it from the repos
[19:01] <mongolai> Serraphyn:  that's the thing. Linux is still for "new shiny nickel" collectors :-) er, to a point, that is
[19:01] <frank23> magnetron: yep
[19:02] <Sidtoner1> i installed 8.10 today and i can't get basic programs to show up in synaptic like i used to be able to when i ran previous versions...i enabled backports and the restricted repositories but i can't get things like flash support or vlc to show up. any ideas?
[19:02] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane; remap it in keysettings, when I upgraded to hardy I lost most of my media keys.  remapping fixed it
[19:02] <Mimi> Silly question but does anyone know what theme this is? HINT: It's not Mac4Lin   http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1/pantallazo10ax2.jpg
[19:02] <Hentay> anyone can help me?
[19:02] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, system/pref/keyboard shortcuts
[19:02] <jimmio> Hello all, I jumped into ed from command line using Ctrl+Alt+F1, and it's saying ? to everything I do... How do I get out of it? Ctrl+C does nothing except make it ? again...
[19:02] <Serraphyn> Cochese, might take your own advice.  I'm not the one with the attitude. But I see your desire to supress someone else overrides your common sense.
[19:02] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[19:02] <lolnoob> How hell do I remove orca completely
[19:03] <Wavesonics> hola. hey isn't 8.10 server suppose to be able to do software RAID? I can't find the others in the server install
[19:03] <Pyrophelia> lolnoob, sudo apt-get -purge orca
[19:03] <mrpockets> so
[19:03] <jerbear> does ibex include flash plugin 10?
[19:03] <Pici> jerbear: yes
[19:03] <mrpockets> I know i'm probably the 10000 person to ask this
[19:03] <Sidtoner1> also i notice while trying to refresh my list from the server a lot of the servers fail no matter what mirror i choose... are a lot of the servers getting hammered and not working right?
[19:03] <jerbear> Pici: thanks
[19:03] <jesus7777> I can see my sata disk and my ide disk but i cannot isntall ubuntu in ide disk. This disk doesnt appears in partitionating
[19:03] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Sidtoner1, Yes they are getting hammered
[19:03] <mrpockets> can you just upgrade with apt-get upgrade?
[19:03] <svh> is there a way setup the user to get premission to delete files from trash
[19:03] <pwnedulongtime> ooh what happened to "transparent cube" in compix? :(
[19:03] <dimedo> bd_,  thx, do you have any idea now how i can use this keyring directly to verify my downloads? or how i can export it's contents to import them into my personal ring?
[19:03] <FreshUbuntuNoob> mrpockets, Yes dist-upgrade would work
[19:03] <Pyrophelia> mrpockets, sudo apt-get -d (after manual source edit)
[19:03] <Cochese> Serraphyn, I don't desire to supress anyone. I desire a modem fix for my phone. Pound sand.
[19:03] <jerbear> svh: check the ownership of the files in the trash
[19:03] <ThePandemic82> Hi.  i installed nvidia display driver using envy in 8.04.  I just upgraded to 8.10.  Do I have to reinstall my display driver??
[19:04] <Misterjos> no Raito- it says it only once, there is HD activity, but cpu is not really busy. should i abort it and so a clean install of 8.10?
[19:04] <mrpockets> thanks guys
[19:04] <Sidtoner1> FreshUbuntuNoob: is that why i am not able to install things like vlc and the restricted extras package? ie they don't even show up to install
[19:04] <jtmoney> could someone tell me what program is running in the console here: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1001_3-6247274-2.html?tag=mncol
[19:04] <ubunt2> hello I have 8.04
[19:04] <Omoikane> Pyrophelia I opened it but I'm having trouble understanding how to adjust it and what to toggle it to.
[19:04] <jtmoney> looks like top++
[19:04] <Pyrophelia> mrpockets, wait sorry wrong command, it's sudo update-manager -d or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after a manual source edit
[19:04] <bartmon> has anyone else noticed window titlebar corruption in intrepid?
[19:04] <ubunt2> is it necessary to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04?
[19:04] <_biker_geek_> jtmoney: I think that's midnight commander.
[19:04] <mongolai> ubunt2:  no
[19:04] <bartmon> ubunt2: no
[19:04] <Misterjos> no ubunt2
[19:05] <Serraphyn> Cochese, to bad they don't put out some sort of list that tells people what does and doesn't work with linux to allow you to plan purchases and forsee upcoming issues.
[19:05] <jerbear> svn: sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[19:05] <Mimi> bartmon,  not sure if this is what youre talking about but my themes sometimes flicker from the theme image to white, unless i resize the imagte
[19:05] <Mimi> *the window
[19:05] <FreshUbuntuNoob> Sidtoner1, You won't be able to download packages easily. B/c the servers are too busy
[19:05] <jimdb> when i move my mouse pointer over the title of a window the titlebar and buttons become distorted.  any ideas on how to solve that?
[19:05] <dug_> Sidtoner1: I have vlc installed, it is in multiverse
[19:05] <jtmoney> _biker_geek_: thanks
[19:05] <jerbear> svh: sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[19:05] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, unless they've changed it drastically it should be pretty easy.  double click the key you want to modify then hit the keyboard key that you want to represent that control.
[19:05] <svh> it has my name as owner
[19:05] <dulak> anyone know if the hauppage 350 works on hardy?
[19:05] <bd_> dimedo: gpg --import on those .gpg files
[19:05] <Sidtoner1> dug_ i have the extra repositories enabled but nothing shows up... do i have to manually add one?
[19:06] <graingert> dulak: dunno test it on ibex
[19:06] <dug_> Sidtoner1: how did you enable them?  if you did it on command line remember to sudo apt-get update
[19:06] <NickieFerrante> Intrepid didn't like my graphics card drivers. Any way from terminal/using the internal graphics that I can update them?
[19:06] <Cochese> Serraphyn, it supposedly does work. It apparently is not working. You apparently don't have a solution. You should probably pound more sand
[19:06] <jtmoney> dulak: i'm pretty sure all the hauppauge cards work just fine... check mythtv/ivtv documentation though
[19:06] <dulak> jtmoney: thx
[19:06] <Pyrophelia> holy bleep.  ~720KBps with apt-p2p o.o
[19:06] <jimmio> ﻿I jumped into ed from command line using Ctrl+Alt+F1, and it's saying ? to everything I do... How do I get out of it? Ctrl+C does nothing except make it ? again...
[19:07] <Serraphyn> Cochese, good luck. Hope your attitude takes you far in life.
[19:07] <Sidtoner1> dug_: i did it in synaptic gui by checking the boxes and refreshed but some of the servers are failing to connect
[19:07] <bd_> jimmio: the ed editor? maybe try :q!
[19:07] <bartmon> Mimi: My problem is that sometimes the titlebar just goes gray, sometimes just half of it... Usually it is redrawn correctly when i deselect and selet the window again
[19:07] <bd_> or ctrl-z and kill it
[19:07] <strAlan> !video editing
[19:07] <strAlan> oh come on
[19:07] <mongolai> jimmio:  or try ctrl+z to suspend then kill it later
[19:07] <dulak> jimmio: q is quit in ed
[19:07] <strAlan> !final cut
[19:08] <strAlan> wow
[19:08] <pwnedulongtime> calc: I upgraded to 6.5 but now I can't load my old guest OS
[19:08] <strAlan> disappointing
[19:08] <Omoikane> Pyrophelia I did it but it's still not working.
[19:08] <jimmio> mongolai: That did the trick... I could have sworn Ctrl+C closed it... oh well, thanks
[19:08] <Ax3> avarus, installing via a virtual  machine now, will let you know what happens
[19:08] <bartmon> strAlan: cinellera, kino, avidemux
[19:08] <dulak> jimmio: in ed ctrl-c goes to command mode
[19:08] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane: exactly what is the problem? can you not figure out how to map a key or is the key you want to map not responding?
[19:08] <strAlan> bartmon, thank you
[19:08] <dug_> Sidtoner1: only thing I can recommend is go to synaptic package manager->settings->repositories->download from->other->select best server to see if there is a faster server
[19:08] <avarus> Ax3, k
[19:08] <dulak> jimmio: ctrl-c followed by q would have quit you out
[19:09] <zsb> hej
[19:09] <mongolai> jimmio:  it's still running, but suspended. It you type fg  it will return to the foreground...
[19:09] <jerbear> Omoikane: you should test the keypress with xev to see if you are getting a valid keycode for your mute button
[19:09] <jesus77777> anyone with problems to partition a ide disk? i cannot see it!!! i see sata and ide but in the partition windows i only see sata!!
[19:09] <Sidtoner1> dug_: yeah i am trying that and it pings the servers but doesn't actually change anything... doesn't say what one is responding fastest
[19:09] <mongolai> jimmio:  unless you kill -15  'ed it
[19:09] <dulak> it makes me feel old that I know how to work ed
[19:09] <calc> pwnedulongtime: what does it say?
[19:10] <calc> pwnedulongtime: all of my old guests worked fine for me
[19:10] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, also keep in mind the pulse is a little broken for systems that use more than a 2.1 setup.  For example on my 7.1 system mute and volume only modify the front speakers.  There is actually a fix for this but I've been too lazy to research it
[19:10] <mongolai> dulak:  you should be proud. no-one really knows ed anymore
[19:10] <NickieFerrante> Any idea how to make ubuntu update a graphics driver from command line?
[19:10] <Pyrophelia> NickieFerrante, what card?
[19:11] <dug_> Sidtoner1: also there is a thing called apt-p2p that uses bitorrent for downloading packages, but it seems tricky to configure right, haven't used it myself
[19:11] <NickieFerrante> ATI radeon 2400
[19:11] <jerbear> NickieFerrante: are you talking about installing the driver or configuring it?
[19:11] <Sidtoner1> dug_: ok i'll look into it thanks
[19:11] <jtmoney> NickieFerrante: sudo apt-get install fglrx (i think)
[19:11] <XshoppyX> hello
[19:11] <NickieFerrante> Updated and forgot to disable my graphics driver first =/
[19:11] <Pyrophelia> NickieFerrante, I have no idea about ati cards :x  try this from cli, apt-cache search ati|less
[19:12] <XshoppyX>  export http_proxy=127.0.0.1:10000
[19:12] <XshoppyX> i used that command and i want to chang it back
[19:12] <XshoppyX> how can i?
[19:12] <Pyrophelia> NickieFerrante, if you find something that looks promising type sudo apt-get install name_of_package
[19:12] <Omoikane> Pyrophelia okay here is what I did. I changed my volume up to the mute button to make sure it's not a broken button. It did work. Then I changed my volume up key to mute and it didn't work. So it has to be somewhere in the actual function.
[19:12] <not_jrib> XshoppyX: unset http_proxy
[19:12] <XshoppyX> thanks
[19:13] <sanguisdex> has any one had a matching checksum from a torrent?
[19:13] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, it's possible it's a bug
[19:13] <Omoikane> Pyrophelia Really? How do I report it?
[19:13] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, ibex was just came out today so give them a day or 2 to sort out the flux
[19:13] <rappell> has anyone done anything using peap in network manager?
[19:13] <Pyrophelia> launchpad I think?
[19:14] <Omoikane> Pyrophelia k
[19:14] <Pyrophelia> Omoikane, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[19:14] <dereck> how can I create a tarball of a folder via CLI?
[19:14] <jtmoney> dereck: something like tar cvf filename.tar directory/
[19:14] <jerbear> dereck: tar czf foo.tar.gz your_dir
[19:14] <jimmio> note to self: Use nano next time
[19:14] <jtmoney> but maybe filename.tar and directory are backwards :-X
[19:14] <mrbig4545> i know its ot, but its is cool, http://digg.com/politics/Canada_Man_Up_You_Fucking_Cowards
[19:14] <aRk4> hi all, i want to download ubuntu mid, but i don't know where i can download it. anyone can help me?
[19:15] <jtmoney> ohh, yeah, tarball... .tar.gz
[19:15] <hiswacko> hey
[19:15] <dereck> jtmoney: thanks!
[19:15] <brn2fly4evr> do
[19:15] <un2him> i am having a problem with a very slow network speed on the new intrepid release.  Suggestions?
[19:15] <hiswacko> wheres the torrent link for 8.10? i wanna seed
[19:15] <Pyrophelia> aRk4, what's ubuntu mid?
[19:15] <not_jrib> !torrents
[19:15] <svh> do i use su  when i try using sudo to remove files from trash
[19:15] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[19:15] <Yimpolo> wow
[19:16] <not_jrib> svh: no, no su
[19:16] <jerbear> svh: sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[19:16] <aRk4> !ubuntu mid
[19:16] <Sephr> does 8.10 support fake raid?
[19:16] <aRk4> hi all, i want to download ubuntu mid, but i don't know where i can download it. anyone can help me?
[19:16] <E-XtraCt> Hello, I'm pretty newb with linux, what is better for the strater user Ubuntu or Kubuntu, any why ?
[19:16] <jtmoney> hiswacko: seeding's good right now... i just downloaded 1 MB/s for 8.10-desktop-i386 and 1 MB/s for 8.04.1-server-amd64 ;)
[19:16] <E-XtraCt> Hello, I'm pretty newb with linux, what is better for the strater user Ubuntu or Kubuntu, and why ?
[19:16] <newb> E-XtraCt: both are good
[19:16] <Misterjos> btw, is it possible to install ubuntu from an usb stick?
[19:16] <newb> E-XtraCt: Ubuntu is SIMPLER to use
[19:16] <jtmoney> E-XtraCt: either... it's a preference
[19:16] <hiswacko> jtmoney: my ridiculous uni connection couldnt hurt
[19:16] <jerbear> E-XtraCt: strater user?
[19:17] <jtmoney> nice
[19:17] <not_jrib> E-XtraCt: either.  I'd recommend Ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and you get to use both.  You just choose at the login screen whether you want to use GNOME or KDE then
[19:17] <faileas> i'm having a problem with virtualbox personal edition and usb. i keep getting the " Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer. " error. the fixes for older versions of ubuntu seem to be irrelavent since the lines they tell me to uncomment don't ecist. any ideas?
[19:17] <aRk4> hi all, i want to download ubuntu mid, but i don't know where i can download it. anyone can help me? please...
[19:17] <jimmio> is there a way to take a snapshot of tty1?
[19:17] <trimeta> faileas: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ has a link.
[19:18] <Sephr> does anyone know if ubuntu 8.10 support fake raid?
[19:18] <SlimeyPete> define "fake raid"
[19:18] <jerbear> jimmio: you can record a terminal session with 'script'
[19:18] <Sephr> software RAID
[19:18] <trimeta> Sephr: I've got a Hardy Heron server with what I expect you're referring to as "fake RAID," so I expect Ibex supports it as well.
[19:18]  * sanguisdex jusr redownlaoded the alt ISO and is checking the md5
[19:18] <trimeta> If you mean mdadm and all that stuff, then yes.
[19:19] <Sephr> this kind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:19] <mvno_subscriber> ubuntu won't recognize my hard disk or dvd-drive. this has gotten even worse with 8.10. there have been some bugs filed on this, but none seems resolved. with 8.04, i could install using wubi and boot after waiting 5 min, now i can't boot at all (just ends up in (initramfs)). can anyone help?
[19:19] <faileas> trimeta: erm... i think you meant aRk4
[19:19] <Sephr> 8.04 has never worked with fake raid for me
[19:19] <SlimeyPete> Sephr: Ubuntu has supported software RAID for ages :)
[19:19] <Sephr> even the alt installer
[19:19] <E-XtraCt> There is release for Intel x64 of Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:19] <Sephr> SlimeyPete» FAKE raid is different than normal RAID
[19:19] <jimmio> jerbear: Anything you know of that acts as the Print Screen button does?
[19:19] <trimeta> E-XtraCt: Yes.
[19:19] <faileas> E-XtraCt: yes.
[19:19] <Sephr> ubuntu has never worked on fake raid for me
[19:19] <Raito-> Sephr	8.04 has never worked with fake raid for me  <-- odd, im using it with a software raid-5 array right now
[19:19] <faileas> amd64 = intel x64
[19:20] <jerbear> jimmio: not if you're on a virtual terminal
[19:20] <E-XtraCt> oh
[19:20] <trimeta> Sephr: Normal RAID is done at the hardware level, and so it doesn't matter what OS you've got.
[19:20] <jtmoney> yeah, hardware RAID FTW
[19:20] <Raito-> hardware raid FOR TEH EXPENSIVE
[19:20] <bartmon> it costs $$$
[19:20] <Sephr> trimeta» I didn't say normal raid
[19:20] <SlimeyPete> Sephr: can't you just put your fake-raid controller into seperate-channels mode and then use standard software RAID?
[19:20] <jerbear> jimmio: if you're doing through your terminal emulator (xterm, gnome-terminal) then printscreen would work
[19:20] <trimeta> Sephr: The point is, I don't have a hardware controller, but I have RAID on my Hardy system.
[19:20] <psusi> Sephr: the installer crashes for me at the last step when it installs grub, which I had to install manually
[19:20] <trimeta> So I must have fake RAID.
[19:20] <jtmoney> yeah, it costs money but it's less headache and performs better
[19:21] <Sephr> trimeta» used alternate or normal installer?
[19:21] <trimeta> Sephr: Server installer.
[19:21]  * sanguisdex sill has an unmatching checksum
[19:21] <trimeta> Which has a whole mode for setting up software RAID.
[19:21] <jerbear> i would never use a software raid.. hardware raid all the way
[19:21] <alkjdfal> can anyone help me force mount an ext3 fs
[19:21] <Sephr> does the desktop alternate installer support mostly everything the server one does?
[19:21] <jerbear> alkjdfal: force mount?
[19:22] <alkjdfal> yes
[19:22] <jimmacdonald> So are we back to #Ubuntu now for Ibex support?
[19:22] <Eric2> so any major problems i should know about before i click the upgrade button :P?
[19:22] <stimpie> grrr I hate the new networkmanager
[19:22] <Sephr> btw, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto says fake raid won't work for me
[19:22] <joaopinto> Sephr, it does not include the server packages on the cd
[19:22] <bartmon> alkjdfal: check the fs first: fsck /dev/sdXY
[19:22] <alkjdfal> i try a regular mount command and get an error
[19:22] <ais523> well, I'm upgrading to Ibex atm and joined #ubuntu pre-emptively, if I shuld be in a different channel let me know
[19:22] <jerbear> alkjdfal: it either mounts or it doesn't
[19:22] <NickieFerrante> Eric2: watch out with your graphics cards
[19:22] <aRk4> thanks all
[19:22] <jerbear> alkjdfal: what is that error?
[19:23] <E-XtraCt> If I have Intel E8400 what is more recommended to install amd64 or intel x86 ?
[19:23] <Sephr> joaopinto» so should I use the alternate desktop or the server installer?
[19:23] <jimmacdonald> ais523: If they cant/wont answer your questions here yet you can go to #Ubuntu+1
[19:23] <psusi> Sephr: what do you m ean it says it won't work for you?
[19:23] <alkjdfal> should i clear the flags
[19:23] <Eric2>  NickieFerrante i have an old ati 9600 think itll be ok?
[19:23] <ais523> jimmacdonald: thanks
[19:23] <not_jrib> E-XtraCt: how much ram do you have?
[19:23] <E-XtraCt> If I have Intel E8400 what is more recommended to install amd64 or intel x86 ?
[19:23] <E-XtraCt> 4GB
[19:23] <Sephr> psusi» it won't even recognise that I have any hard drives
[19:24] <NickieFerrante> Eric2: Yea that's one of the few that will :P
[19:24] <Guest91356> E-XtraCt, i suggest 32bit, more simple and fully working
[19:24] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[19:24] <Eric2> k :P
[19:24] <Sephr> psusi» and I get some I/O errors and BusyBox launches and that's it
[19:24] <Izinucs> E-XtraCt: x86 for less headaches if you're not use to linux
[19:24] <not_jrib> E-XtraCt: if you want to see all 4gb, you should go with 64bit.  Some closed source apps may only release 32bit binaries though
[19:24] <Ax3> I think this is a great indicator that people don't give a crap about file integrity, because only a handful of people in here actually have noticed that the MD5's don't match.... which means people aren't checking
[19:24] <agentsoul> I'm not able to find a bug report but since I use 8.10 I can't use "Hybernate" anymore. Is it a bug or do only I have this problem? Hybernate = shut down but start with the same programs after rebooting.
[19:24] <psusi> Sephr: so you get it installed then it won't boot up?
[19:24] <srr_> hello friends
[19:24] <Eric2> O.o
[19:24] <avarus> Ax3, does that mean i386 also fails?
[19:24] <faileas> agentsoul: got enough swap?
[19:25] <Sephr> psusi» I can't even start the installer
[19:25] <Ax3> avarus, it's still installing
[19:25] <DJones> jimmacdonald: ais523 Just for info, #ubuntu+1 doesn't exist anymore, it forwards to release-party
[19:25] <srr_> i have a problem with my ubuntu can you help me?
[19:25] <Ax3> avarus, 32%
[19:25] <psusi> Sephr: eh?  you can't even boot the livecd?
[19:25] <Sephr> psusi» instant i/o errors and installer crashes
[19:25] <jimmio> srr_:!ask
[19:25] <jimmio> !ask
[19:25] <centyx> you can always tell when there's been a new ubuntu release. s-8
[19:25] <Sephr> psusi» never tried alternate livecd but normal desktop live cd won't work
[19:25] <faileas> XD
[19:25] <anoneemouse> does someone here know how to work with twinview and kde?
[19:25] <profanephobia> I have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset and after installing it and configuring wvdial, when i try to dial it sends the first INT string successfully then cant find the carrier, what could cause this?
[19:25] <JenZ> hi all, just downloaded and installed the Alternate-version of Kubuntu (because in the desktop-cd my gfx-card was not recognized (ati radeon 9600 r300)
[19:25] <markrian> Where is the time tracking applet that's in GNOME 2.24 in 8.10? I can't seem to find it...
[19:25] <Izinucs> centyx: yep! mayhem for the next 2 weeks
[19:25] <anoneemouse> when i maximise windows they fill both screens
[19:25] <Ax3> Sephr, did you compute the md5sum of the .iso you're using?
[19:25] <agentsoul> faileas 2GB for 1GB RAM and it worked on 8.04 very well. I did an upgrade not a complete installation
[19:26] <psusi> Sephr: the livecd IS the normal one... well if you can't even boot the livecd it probably doesn't have anything to do with the fakeraid
[19:26] <alkjdfal> in fsck how can i automatically select yest
[19:26] <JenZ> but now i still dont have xwindow
[19:26] <ay^> what can I do with these "program crash data"-files? Can I somehow read them and understand what went wrong?
[19:26] <Sephr> Ax3» all of the 8.04 isos I've used had the right md5
[19:26] <sanguisdex> the checksums  on http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ don't match with the ones here http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/MD5SUMS
[19:26] <snowmoon-work> Is anyone else having trouble with bluetooth or is it just my new E6500? I can pair with devices, but they don't want to actually work ( mouse, phone as modem )
[19:26] <srr_> when i run synaptic manager it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:26] <Sephr> I'm thinking of trying all of this all over again with the release of 8.10
[19:26] <snowmoon-work> that would be under 8.10
[19:26] <weshit> M000000000! bad cow rising!
[19:26] <srr_> wha can i do???
[19:26] <srr_> what
[19:26] <distant_voice> if I use mozilla thunderbird in ubuntu will it slow down my computer as opposed to using a program that's included in gnome? I got confused when I read that using KDE apps slow down the Gnome desktop... :(
[19:26] <E-XtraCt> How can I install both Ubuntu and Kubuntu as not_jrib mentioned above ?
[19:27] <bingungaja> how to reformat my notebook with ubuntu ? really clean all my hdd and re format, then install ibex, pls advise
[19:27] <ay^> srr_: do what it says
[19:27] <srr_> i dit it
[19:27] <joaopinto> bingungaja, just use the livecd, and select, use entire disk
[19:27] <srr_> but it did nothing
[19:27] <ay^> bingungaja: launch the livecd and use gParted to format it
[19:27] <Ax3> sanguisdex, I just noticed that myself
[19:27] <dug_> distant_voice: it won't slow it down, i've been using it for years
[19:27] <plantfewd> anybody know if the problems with  the RTL8187 driver were solved?
[19:27] <srr_> i don't have a live cd
[19:27] <Izinucs> bingungaja: you can do that while installing.. there will be an option to use the entire drive..
[19:27] <srr_> please help
[19:27] <profanephobia> ok... how do i use my lg cu915 as a usb modem?
[19:27] <Ax3> sanguisdex, my .iso's compute to the listing on releases.ubuntu.com, i think i'd go with that one
[19:28] <avarus> Ax3, mine, too but that one failed for me
[19:28] <distant_voice> thanks dug_
[19:28] <sd32> is flash 10 out for linux yet?
[19:28] <svh> sorry but that keeps tilling me that can not remove  rm and the rest no file or dir
[19:28] <Eric2> i think this is the most ppl i have ever seen in this room
[19:28] <NickieFerrante> YES! I GOT THE DRIVER TO WORK!
[19:28] <bingungaja> all : ok option use the entire disc, is it really need to partisi my hdd ?
[19:28] <dug_> sd32: yes
[19:28] <NickieFerrante> thanks all for your helps :D
[19:28] <lucax> whats the name of the package for configuring compiz? im on intrepid ibex
[19:28] <Ax3> avarus, 61%
[19:28] <weshit> is it possible to reformat/repartition hdds in 8.10? (gparted?)
[19:28] <sd32> dug_: thanks
[19:28] <srr_> anybody can help me please?
[19:28] <sanguisdex> Ax3: minr do as well
[19:28] <ay^> weshit: yes
[19:28] <joaopinto> weshit, yes it is
[19:28] <jimmio> !ask | srr_
[19:28] <dug_> weshit you not
[19:28] <E-XtraCt> How can I install both Ubuntu and Kubuntu as not_jrib mentioned above ?
[19:29] <Eric2> lol...
[19:29] <psusi> Sephr: so you just try to boot the livecd normally and it drops you to a busybox shell in the initramfs?
[19:29] <kevsthabest> rm
[19:29] <sfears> can anyone help me with some network manager startup problems?
[19:29] <Sephr> psusi» yes
[19:29] <srr_> when i run synaptic manager it says : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:29] <srr_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:29] <sanguisdex> E-XtraCt: install unbuntu
[19:29] <Raito-> E-XtraCt: install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop through synaptic, you can choose which desktop environment to start at the login screen
[19:29] <joaopinto> E-XtraCt, just install one of them and them sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <ricc> Helloooooo!
[19:29] <profanephobia> ok... how do i use my lg cu915 as a usb modem?
[19:29] <sanguisdex> E-XtraCt: then not you can add the kubuntu repo
[19:29] <psusi> Sephr: which boot option are you choosing?
[19:29] <sd32> will flash be on the new ubuntu or is it a seperare download
[19:29] <dug_> rj
[19:29] <dug_> rj
[19:29] <dug_> oops
[19:30] <FloodBot1> dug_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <Orchid`> hello i am having some issues remembering my password for my AOL email, is it possible to go into pidgin and see a passwor di ahve entered for my AOL messenger, without it being cnessred, and if so how do i do this?
[19:30] <Eric2> be nice if it had flash 10
[19:30] <joaopinto> sd32, it is downloaded from adobe's server
[19:30] <E-XtraCt> Thanks joaopinto.
[19:30] <not_jrib> Orchid`: ask #pidgin.  Check ~/.purple
[19:30] <sd32> jojoao
[19:30] <Orchid`> thanks you!
[19:30] <not_jrib> Eric2: 8.10 does have flash 10
[19:30] <Sephr> psusi» default boot options (and btw, I'm using x64)
[19:30] <sd32> joaopinto: thanks
[19:30] <srr_> when i run synaptic manager it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report..
[19:30] <srr_> help please
[19:30] <Eric2> O.o nice
[19:30] <sfears> if i remove the NetworkManager.conf & knetworkmanager.conf files from /etc/dbus-1/system.d my issue goes away but then knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot up and i can't connect to any wireless networks!
[19:30] <not_jrib> srr_: run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[19:31] <Sephr> all of my hardware supports 64-bit
[19:31] <joaopinto> srr_, on the terminal please run ....
[19:31] <Sephr> so that shouldn't be a problem
[19:31] <dug_> sd32: it's the flashplugin-nonfree package in multiverse repository
[19:31] <nekostar> so....
[19:31] <psusi> Sephr: yea, but which choice on the menu are you picking?  the try ubuntu without installing one?
[19:31] <jimmio> srr_: open a terminal and press ﻿type sudo ﻿dpkg --configure -a then your password...
[19:31] <profanephobia> how do i use my lg cu915 as a usb modem?
[19:31] <sd32> dug_: ok thanks again
[19:31] <Sephr> psusi» try without installing and the install one both get me into busybox
[19:31] <Sephr> tried both
[19:32] <sd32> dug_: is it up to 10 or is it still at 9?
[19:32] <psusi> Sephr: weird... what's it say when it dumps you there?
[19:32] <nekostar> !paste
[19:32] <Ax3> avarus, 82%
[19:32] <almostdvs> i'm going to try and use unetbootin for my distro image,  should i worry about the formatting of the usb?
[19:32] <sfears> profanephobia: you need to goole info on your particular phone and see what phone number, user name & password you need to dial up to, then use a dial up manager to connect to the internet
[19:32] <Sephr> psusi» a bunch of i/o errors with my fake raid
[19:32] <nekostar> first off
[19:32] <srr_> it says: readlink : misiing operant
[19:32] <psusi> Sephr: and then?
[19:32] <Sephr> that's it
[19:32] <snowmoon-work> Is anyone else using a BT mouse?  Do you have to insatall anything to get it working?
[19:33] <jimmio> why... does... EVERYONE NEED TO DISTRO UPGRADE THE DAY IT COMES OUT?! </pissyness>
[19:33] <nekostar> to anyone who needs a clean set of sources [remember to localize them but] http://paste.ubuntu.com/64753/
[19:33] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: I have a mighty mouse, and it worked out of the box?
[19:33] <sd32> dug_: isnt flash 10 still beta or has it final now?
[19:33] <nekostar> jimmio lol
[19:33] <psusi> Sephr: the last line or two should be some english text saying something like can't find root device or something like that
[19:33] <i0x83> hey guys how do i update my kernel, im using ubuntu 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-generic i would like to update to 2.6.24
[19:33] <dug_> sd32:  it's up to 10, i have it installed now
[19:33] <i0x83> hey guys how do i update my kernel, im using ubuntu 8.04 with 2.6.24-21-generic i would like to update to 2.6.26
[19:33] <nekostar> i do it about a month ahead of time
[19:33] <nekostar> :DS
[19:33] <sfears> snowmoon-work: install sysv-rc-conf & make sure your bluetooth services are enabled?
[19:33] <sd32> dug_: ok thanks
[19:33] <nekostar> i0x83
[19:33] <ais523> jimmio: so I can report bugs for all the people who dist-upgrade later
[19:33] <Ax3> jimmio, cuz we're tired of waiting for new features
[19:33] <nekostar> first dont repeat
[19:33] <psusi> Sephr: it's actually normal to get a bunch of IO errors during boot with fakeraid, just ignore that
[19:33] <Ax3> ^_^
[19:33] <nekostar> secondly:
[19:33] <FloodBot1> nekostar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <Ax3> lol @ nekostar
[19:33] <IonutVan> hi
[19:33] <i0x83> my bad
[19:33] <nekostar> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:33] <snowmoon-work> Cycom, sfears will try.  I can pair but nothing after that under 8.10
[19:33] <Sephr> psusi» I'm not sure it said that not being able to find root device
[19:33] <nekostar> that should update you i0x83 ^^
[19:34] <nekostar> stfu btw floatingman
[19:34] <nekostar> er FloodBot1
[19:34] <nekostar> lol
[19:34] <IonutVan> just a small/stupid question: is it safe to try an update from 7.04 to 8.10?
[19:34] <philippe_> Hello. My software top bar are often "bugged". Is it possible to solve this? ---> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6742/desktopje2.jpg
[19:34] <nekostar> i fail at copy paste apparently
[19:34] <Sephr> psusi» it just doesn't let me get past the busybox after all of the io errors
[19:34] <nekostar> IonutVan no it's not
[19:34] <FloodBot1> nekostar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <jimmio> Nooo... because everyone wants to annoy the person trying to download xubuntu-desktop from Apt... =(
[19:34] <nekostar> you need to upgrade by single steps ok?
[19:34] <i0x83> nekostar thanks buddy
[19:34] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: how did you pair?
[19:34] <trimeta> IonutVan: It's generally recommended to first upgrade to 8.04, then upgrade to 8.10.
[19:34] <srr_> it says: readlink : misiing operant
[19:34] <psusi> Sephr: the errors mention trying to access beyond the end of the device right?
[19:34] <trimeta> Wait, don't forget 7.10.
[19:34] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: using the gui?
[19:34] <TimS> sudo has stopped working after an update, how do I open a root terminal?
[19:34] <i0x83> gonna try that
[19:34] <nekostar> trimeta i've tried it
[19:34] <trimeta> Like I just did.
[19:34] <nekostar> on a vanilla
[19:34] <not_jrib> IonutVan: no, you need to upgrade to everything in between.
[19:34] <nekostar> you GOTTA upgrade that way
[19:34] <snowmoon-work> Cycom: yes with the GUI
[19:34] <Sephr> psusi» I think so
[19:34] <not_jrib> !upgrade > IonutVan
[19:34] <psusi> Sephr: yea, just ignore those... it's normal
[19:35] <IonutVan> nekostar, trimeta thanks, I will do it in this way
[19:35] <i0x83> nekostar wouldnt that upgrade me to 8.10 ?
[19:35] <mikebeecham> having installed ubuntu 2 days ago...can I ask if I'm able to install new gtk engines from somewhere?
[19:35] <nekostar> 7.04 -> 7.10 -> 8.04 -> 8.10
[19:35] <Sephr> psusi» then what do I do? I am stuck in busybox until I restart
[19:35] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: it shows up under the 'Known devices'?
[19:35] <IonutVan> not_jrib, there is nothing regarding my question
[19:35] <IonutVan> :)
[19:35] <nekostar> i0x83 ?
[19:35] <IonutVan> I saw the page
[19:35] <nekostar> probably?
[19:35] <psusi> Sephr: what is currently on the hard disks?  just a windows install?  one big ntfs partition?
[19:35] <nekostar> what are you trying to do then?
[19:35] <ais523> TimS: restart and add "single" to the boot line while you boot up
[19:35] <srr_> i type sudo dpkg --configure -a but it doesn't work
[19:35] <snowmoon-work> Cycom: Yes
[19:35] <i0x83> gah well it seems that there is a bug with ext3 sd cards in my current version
[19:36] <nekostar> oohh
[19:36] <srr_> help please
[19:36] <not_jrib> IonutVan: huh? didn't you ask how to upgrade?
[19:36] <nekostar> hey i'll let u know a secret i0x83
[19:36] <nekostar> first enable backports/
[19:36] <Sephr> one sec
[19:36] <psusi> Sephr: is this a two disk raid0?
[19:36] <alessio> !list
[19:36] <nekostar> but your gonna need to compile probably
[19:36] <Sephr> psusi» yes
[19:36] <i0x83> nekostar the reason i came to that conclusion is that my buddy tried it on his and with 2.6.26 and it worked
[19:36] <IonutVan> not_jrib, <IonutVan> just a small/stupid question: is it safe to try an update from 7.04 to 8.10?
[19:36] <ais523> TimS: that's the emergency root prompt, it isn't much useful for anything but troubleshooting problems
[19:36] <srr_> i type sudo dpkg --configure -a but it doesn't work
[19:36] <TimS> ais523: Okay thanks
[19:36] <nekostar> one thing i've done before is take and change my sources to the next distro for a second, and installed kernel and changed sources back
[19:36] <not_jrib> IonutVan: yes... and I told you you needed to upgrade to everything in between first and gave you upgrade instructions
[19:36] <jimmio> srr_: I pm'd you.
[19:36] <nekostar> one can do similar with apt pinning rules
[19:37] <snowmoon-work> Cycom: and I know the mouse works... it works under Vista and with my MBP
[19:37] <TimS> ais523: This is another broken update
[19:37] <Sephr> I have 1 456GB ntfs partition and one 1 9gb partition
[19:37] <nekostar> i0x83 if its a decent machine, just compile it
[19:37] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: is it a mighty mouse?
[19:37] <nekostar> !compile kernel
[19:37] <nekostar> yeah
[19:37] <Sephr> and that's after all the raid stuff
[19:37] <snowmoon-work> Cycom: Dell travel mouse
[19:37] <TimS> Had to reconfigure X, which isn't the first time for me after updates
[19:37] <nekostar> one second i0x83 dpkg is better bot for compiling
[19:37] <Flannel> !kernel | nekostar
[19:37] <i0x83> alright thanks dude gonna try it out see where that takes me
[19:37] <psusi> Sephr: what's the 9gb partition?  more ntfs?
[19:37] <Izinucs> UPGRADING? Here's the published instructions. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:37] <sd32> man i love how easy it is to change software in linux
[19:37] <svh> thankyou  Jerbear i would send it so your nickname would show up on the left i am no to all this thanks again
[19:38] <IonutVan> not_jrib, ok, thanks I will try to do it step by step
[19:38] <IonutVan> thanks
[19:38] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: huh. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working.  is this just after an upgrade? is this 8.10?
[19:38] <gustavo_> Why can't setuptools be installed in Intrepid?  http://pastebin.com/d4e719f1e
[19:38] <dug_> isn't there a way to add a guest user now in ubuntu?  I'm showing a website at a booth tomorrow and don't want to be logged in with my own account
[19:38] <Sephr> I have no idea but I assume it's the lazy manufacturer's backup thing
[19:38] <sfears> if i remove the NetworkManager.conf & knetworkmanager.conf files from /etc/dbus-1/system.d my issue goes away but then knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot up and i can't connect to any wireless networks!
[19:38] <Sephr> because I don't have a backup disk
[19:38] <paul68> hi how do I get the UUID from my drives
[19:38] <lucax> wheres ubuntu-restricted-extras packages on intrepid?
[19:39] <hateball> paul68☠ blkid
[19:39] <psusi> dug_: yea... create a new account and call it "guest"
[19:39] <nekostar> g> To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en, or <kernel build-deps> dpkg> somebody said make-kpkg was the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a packag
[19:39] <nekostar> e for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html  man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>. <dpkg> To compile a kernel the Debian Way using make-kpkg, "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential". If you want to use "make menuconfig", then install libncurses-dev. If you want to use "make xconfig", then install libqt3-mt-dev
[19:39] <nekostar> (and also make sure that all your alternatives point to qt3 versions not qt4). Also ask me about <kernel compile> <make-kpkg> <kp mantra> <dpkg> methinks kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd.
[19:39] <Sephr> it's such a waste too, only 5gb of the 9gb backup partition is actually used
[19:39] <FloodBot1> nekostar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Sephr> nekostar» pastebin
[19:39] <nekostar> and THATS how you do kernel
[19:39] <paul68> hateball thanks
[19:39] <snowmoon-work> Cycom: brand new  install of 8.10... first install on this box... Vista BT stuff works as expected.  Guess I'll just have to wait
[19:39] <dekkong> hello! i have a question .. what or when does linux use swap for?
[19:39] <jimmio> !pastebin | nekostar
[19:39] <Dextorion> oh my..
[19:39] <crimsun> lucax: in multiverse.
[19:39] <nekostar> Sephr 3 lines != flood
[19:39] <lifestream> lucax,  have you got all repos enabled in software sources
[19:39] <lifestream> !swap > dekkong
[19:39] <nekostar> jimmio stfu i've been here way longer than you
[19:39] <velko> nekostar, are you dense? 3 lines???
[19:40] <jimmio> nekostar: That's NOT 3 lines....
[19:40] <nekostar> velko thats right
[19:40] <nekostar> 3 lines
[19:40] <not_jrib> let's try to play nice with one another...
[19:40] <nekostar> look at it
[19:40] <nekostar> hateball neko neko neko psusi
[19:40] <nekostar> learn your irc!
[19:40] <Dextorion> omg
[19:40] <lucax> lifestream: i think so... and least i see them all checked
[19:40] <Aggrav8d> hi!  I've got a web server running a demo of a CMS.  Every hour I'd like to flush and reset the database.  What is the best practice?
[19:40] <Sephr> jimmio» text-wrap != new lines
[19:40] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! What tool am I supposed to use to config multiple monitors? nvidia x server settings or is there some "native ubuntu" tool? I still need to sudo-start nvidia settings to save the settings, right?
[19:40] <nekostar> not_jrib i agree... considering i usually win these spats
[19:40] <velko> nekostar, yes. they fill up my whole screen. and _please_ don't use ENTER as punctuation
[19:40] <Cycom> snowmoon-work: I suppose.  it works fine for me, not that it's much consolation.
[19:40] <hateball> nekostar☠ What?
[19:40] <mongolai> nekostar: *now* you're playing fast and loose. I think someone was trying to bait you
[19:40] <nekostar> velko i dont really use enter as punctuation, however i do type as i talk irl
[19:41] <nekostar> mongolai yeah
[19:41] <nekostar> :D
[19:41] <GibbaTheHutt> NorthByNorthWest, use nvidia-settings and save the config
[19:41] <nekostar> the ops here do that occationally
[19:41] <dug_> Aggrav8d: you can use mysql dump and import.  keep a clean dump of the database and every hour use a cron job to re-import it
[19:41] <nekostar> i take em to taks though
[19:41] <TimS> Ugh, its the new kernel thats having issues with my system
[19:41] <nekostar> s/taks/task
[19:41] <TimS> The old one appears to boot fine
[19:41] <lifestream> lucax,  have you refreshed  the list? I got intrepid and all repos enabled, and i got ubuntu restricted extras
[19:41] <nekostar> TimS what kernel?
[19:41] <TimS> nekostar: The one in 8.10
[19:41] <psusi> Sephr: have you tried disconnecting the disks and booting the livecd?
[19:41] <alessio> ciao
[19:41] <nekostar> TimS make sure that after u got the 810 in it's fully updated. there's versions of 2.6.27-7
[19:41] <alessio> !list
[19:42] <nekostar> a new one came out this morning apparently
[19:42] <robtp> could anyone guess why ubuntu (8.10) is misdetecting my external monitor's resolution, and also why it always has an extra "unknown" screen?
[19:42] <lucax> lifestream: i maight done something wrong then, thanks a lot
[19:42] <Sephr> psusi» no, but I will try
[19:42] <Myoukochou> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10, and php-cgi now segfaults.
[19:42] <Myoukochou> Obviously, this means my webserver is down.
[19:42] <TimS> nekostar: I've booted into an old kernel, so I should be able to do some more updates from here
[19:42] <nekostar> TimS sure
[19:42] <Ax3> avarus, installation complete, rebooting
[19:43] <NorthByNorthWest> GibbaTheHutt: thnx! but I still need to start nvidia-settings through the terminal by 'sudo nvidia-settings'?
[19:43] <Myoukochou> Oct 30 19:41:38 yuki kernel: [  595.393720] php-cgi[5926]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f0765df0149 sp 00007fff70846750 error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so[7f0765d85000+169000]
[19:43] <trimeta> Is there any support for the ThinkPad HDAP hard drive parking thing in Ibex? Or do I need to wait for the 2.6.28 kernel to come out, which allegedly has everything built in?
[19:43] <GibbaTheHutt> NorthByNorthWest, yes
[19:43] <Perropachon> hola
[19:43] <nekostar> ya know i really should ask
[19:43] <GibbaTheHutt> NorthByNorthWest, you could create a menu item if wanted I guess
[19:43] <JakeMon> how do i check what locale my system is set to right now?
[19:43] <zzorn> I just configured the wacom based stylus for my toshiba M700 tablet, seems to work ok, but now when I open preferences in Gimp whole X locks up and the caps lock light starts flashing.  Cant ctrl alt backspace or anything.  Any idea what could cause it?  (still running hardy)
[19:44] <Perropachon> he actualizado a intrepid ibex y me dio un error
[19:44] <nekostar> Sephr how could 3 lines take up your whole screen.. do you have like 640x480 resolution or something?
[19:44] <nekostar> because i open my gnome terminal and irssi in default size and it's not close
[19:44] <nekostar> nor is it in my xchat
[19:44] <Ax3> !spanish
[19:44] <nekostar> lmfao
[19:44] <NorthByNorthWest> GibbaTheHutt: okidoki!
[19:44] <Sephr> nekostar» when did I say it took up my whole screen? it's 1920x1200 btw
[19:44] <Hentay> !video
[19:44] <Gun_Smoke> trimeta, www.thinkwiki.org/wiki.thinkwiki
[19:44] <not_jrib> nekostar: drop it please
[19:45] <Gun_Smoke> trimeta, err.. sorry it's http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[19:45] <Hentay> can someone offer video editor?
[19:45] <Spherous> I did the update via the Update Manager.  It hung on cleaning obsoulete files. but now its asking me to delete all 544 files on my pc.  Including Xorg, Xserver, all libs, EVERYTHING.  Should I hit clean and it updates them all? or do I press keep?
[19:45] <r3z> Anyone have a guide to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10?
[19:45] <Hentay> which is good
[19:45] <r3z> from console?
[19:45] <not_jrib> Hentay: avidemux, pitivi, kino
[19:45] <trimeta> Gun_Smoke: Thanks.
[19:45] <not_jrib> !upgrade > r3z
[19:46] <r3z> Thanks.
[19:46] <ais523> !upgrade > ais523
[19:46] <Hentay> not_jrib,  and wgich is good?
[19:46] <dug_> Hentay: there is kdenlive and some others
[19:46] <ransom> i know that updating the linux kernel will kill third party drivers, but will installing 'linux headers' do the same?
[19:46] <Hentay> thanks i'll try
[19:46] <not_jrib> Hentay: I don't do much editing.  Just try them all, pick one you like, and remove the others.  Easy to do with APT :)
[19:46] <paul68> how can I repair my menu.list?
[19:46] <velko> ransom, no
[19:47] <Hentay> not_jrib,  yes, apt rulez :)
[19:47] <ransom> velko: thank you!
[19:47] <nekostar> hm rite was velko
[19:47] <nekostar> lol
[19:47] <Thayle> How big should I make the partition for Intrepid? I was thinking of giving it 20gb? I have about up to 70gb free that could potentially be devoted to it.
[19:47] <RobertAlblas> paul, depending on your operating systems installed
[19:47] <avarus> Thayle, 70
[19:47] <Myoukochou> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>  ... um...
[19:48] <paul68> well i have vista en ubuntu
[19:48] <trimeta> Thayle: Depends how much data you plan on having. You probably won't use more than 20 GB of software, unless you go really crazy with it.
[19:48] <KaiForce> where can I adjust the screen brightness?
[19:48] <nekostar> mynous try running apt-get update again
[19:48] <nekostar> Myoukochou rather
[19:48] <almostdvs> Thayle: how big is your hdd, do you use anything windows specific that would need certain files to be put on that partition?
[19:48] <Thayle> Well if it eventually becomes my main OS (which it probably will), I might end up having a lot of stuff
[19:48] <Niek> why can't I upgrade to teh new ubuntu ? I already thought I was missing updates, but Update-Manager isn't saying anything to me, and when I start teh update manager from commandline with -p, it isn't evn coming with teh dist upgrade offer
[19:49] <Thayle> almostdvs: I have a 320gb hdd. Vista's on it currently
[19:49] <Spherous> ﻿I did the update via the Update Manager.  It hung on cleaning obsoulete files. but now its asking me to delete all 544 files on my pc.  Including Xorg, Xserver, all libs, EVERYTHING.  Should I hit clean and it updates them all? or do I press keep?
[19:49] <dug_> Niek: update-manager -d
[19:49] <Ax3> avarus, it looks good, restarted, virtual machine started right up
[19:49] <DoYouKnow> hi
[19:49] <almostdvs> Thayle: what about mp3 player or anything
[19:49] <Ax3> avarus, again this is the i386 .iso i have tested, not amd64.iso
[19:49] <avarus> Ax3, ya, got that :)
[19:49] <Niek> dug_: Yes, that worked :)
[19:50] <gospodin_horoshi> hey guys, has anyone worked with mailx?
[19:50] <floatingman> whois nekostar
[19:50] <Thayle> almostdvs: I don't have an mp3 player.
[19:50] <DoYouKnow> I'm having some trouble with my webcam. on some installations of ubuntu I've been able to get it working. it's a quickcam pro 9000.
[19:50] <cygoku> What is the official url to get the dvd version of Intrepid ?!?!
[19:50] <avarus> Ax3, I'm just downloading via transmission...300 mb already...
[19:50] <avarus> Ax3, pray for me :)
[19:50] <tonyyarusso> gospodin_horoshi: You'll likely need to define "worked with".
[19:50] <almostdvs> Thayle: do you plan on getting one?
[19:50] <DoYouKnow> now there is just test colors, and white fuzz
[19:51] <Thayle> almostdvs: Probably
[19:51] <avarus> I'm leeching it with 1.2Mbyte/sec
[19:51] <DoYouKnow> a test pattern
[19:51] <jescutie> Hey! My friend's band, Circumstance, just released a free album called Breakfast Champion. You can download it here: http://dudesweat.sweatparty.com/?p=737 If you listen to it and like it, tell me what you think? Please?
[19:52] <not_jrib> !ops | jescutie
[19:52] <nekostar> floatingman u forgot the /
[19:53] <reiki_> somehow I expected this channel to be scrolling so fast it would be nearly unreadable :)
[19:53] <amerinese> does anyone else have problems using flash in 8.04 inside firefox?  it works at first, but after the browser has been open for awhile, it inevitably stops working and takes a browser restart (and closing all sessions) before it works again
[19:53] <cygoku> What is the official url to get the dvd version of Intrepid ?!?!
[19:53] <nekostar> reiki_ if that starts happening turn off joins/parts
[19:53] <not_jrib> amerinese: what arch?
[19:53] <Spherous> ﻿I did the update via the Update Manager.  It hung on cleaning obsolete files. but now its asking me to delete all 544 files on my pc.  Including Xorg, Xserver, all libs, EVERYTHING.  Should I hit clean and it updates them all? or do I press keep?
[19:53] <Thayle> almostdvs: I'll probably get an mp3 player eventually. What do you recommend then?
[19:53] <almostdvs> Thayle: if you plan on getting an ipod or something that definitely works with linux i would say keep vista around 40gb, but if you'll definitely need your media files on vista, dedicate about 10gbs larger than the device to windows
[19:53] <Daisuke_Ido> erm, what exactly is "unix_stream_data_wait"?
[19:53] <amerinese> not_jrib: x64
[19:53] <mker> amerinese: had that problem with hardy amd64, haven't installed flash on intrepid yet though.
[19:53] <dug_> amerinese: i haven't had any issues, but i've heard others who have.  maybe it depends on what flash stuff you are using
[19:53] <sfears> if i remove the NetworkManager.conf & knetworkmanager.conf files from /etc/dbus-1/system.d my issue goes away but then knetworkmanager doesn't start on boot up and i can't connect to any wireless networks!
[19:54] <HellMind> I'm trying to netboot ubuntu to install it, the netboot server is my windows xp, how can I do this?
[19:54] <not_jrib> amerinese: that's nspluginwrapper crashing.  Apparently, it's supposed to restart on its own in 8.10 if you want to upgrade and try
[19:54] <Thayle> almostdvs: Alright, thanks almostdvs!
[19:54] <cousteau> see? now MD5s match
[19:54] <Juanelone> cygoku: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/hardy/release/
[19:54] <mker> amerinese: My "solution" was to use Epiphany for flash, it seemed to crash less often.
[19:55] <HellMind> I should set up an tftp server?
[19:55] <evan_> hey is it normal for twinview that i cant start firefox in both screens?
[19:55] <almostdvs> Thayle: for example, I have and really like the zune 80gb, so i have almost 100gb for windows, and keep in mind that after formatting you have less space than what is said
[19:55] <cygoku> juanelone : this is for Hardy, not Intrepid !
[19:55] <amerinese> hmm, ok, so i guess... i'm uneasy about upgrading because i have dual-monitors, but we'll see
[19:55] <Juanelone> omg there is no 8.10
[19:55] <LordMetroid> What is the "Ubuntu Studio desktop (must install)" option at the software selection dialog?
[19:55] <Thayle> Next question, Should I install the 32-bit or 64-bit version? I was thinking I should since I have 4GB of RAM, but I dunno.
[19:56] <Daisuke_Ido> seems like the only results i get are for kernel 2.3 and 2.4, i think there was a single 2.6 issue, but what's happening is: gnome-session is taking a massive amount of cpu time, and all apps i try to launch get stuck, and in gnome's system monitor, it lists their status as 'unix_stream_data_wait'
[19:56] <almostdvs> Thayle: 64 all the way
[19:56] <not_jrib> amerinese: test out a live cd first.  But I imagine you should be fine.  X is newer and better :)
[19:56] <nspyr> Thayle: 64 is fine for me
[19:56] <Tundrayeti312> Thayle: What does RAM have to do w/ it?
[19:56] <Daisuke_Ido> seems like a pretty bad thing to have happening :\
[19:56] <Spherous> ﻿﻿I did the update via the Update Manager.  It hung on cleaning obsolete files. but now its asking me to delete all 544 files on my pc.  Including Xorg, Xserver, all libs, EVERYTHING.  Should I hit clean and it updates them all? or do I press keep?
[19:56] <mker> Thayle: if you have 4gb+ ram go with 64
[19:56] <almostdvs> Tundrayeti312: 32 bit systems can only utilize around 3gb of ram
[19:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll try to update, maybe it's fixed in final :\
[19:56] <jimmio> Thayle: That's only a Win32 issue you're thinking of... Ram has nothing to do with it.
[19:57] <LordMetroid> Tundrayeti312, 32Bit can only hold roughly 3GiBi addresses
[19:57] <jimmio> Oh, that's just 32 bit in general?
[19:57] <phranklin08> exit
[19:57] <Myoukochou> It's OK, I fixed the segfault.
[19:57] <Codemaster> hey guys, when i run apt-get it launches awn.... i'm a bit confused by this
[19:57] <Myoukochou> php5-xcache currently doesn't work.
[19:57] <psusi> LordMetroid: that's virtual memory, per process.... the total system can use up to 64 gb of physical ram
[19:58] <Wavesonics> the minimum size for my boot partition is 31 GB!
[19:58] <avarus> jimmio, you can even workaround that in winDOS, not possible anymore in WinNT, so does Linux on 32bit :)
[19:58] <not_jrib> Codemaster: what does 'which apt-get' return?
[19:58] <Thayle> Alright cool! So 64-bit it is!
[19:58] <Codemaster> and my aptitude has an error, mentioning it had an invalid ELF header when trying to load libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6
[19:58] <almostdvs> Thayle: remember you have 64 when installing things not in the repositories
[19:58] <Newbie> I think I found a bug on Hardy Heron
[19:58] <Codemaster> not_jrib: /usr/bin/apt-get
[19:58] <NicEXE> how can I take a backup of my ext3 partition using Ubuntu live CD? (manually copy the files does not work... access denied on some files/folders)
[19:58] <Wavesonics> why can't I size my /boot partition to less the 1% of my total space? I'm wasting tons of disk space on this thing!
[19:58] <not_jrib> Codemaster: and: readlink -f $(which apt-get)         ?
[19:59] <gyven> NicEXE: Google diskdruid
[19:59] <Codemaster> not_jrib: same thing - /usr/bin/apt-get
[19:59] <Flannel> Wavesonics: How big is 1%?
[19:59] <psusi> Thayle: I prefer 64 bit myself, but 32 bit will use 4 gb of ram just fine
[19:59] <Wavesonics> ~35 GB
[19:59] <LordMetroid> What is the difference between "Ubuntu Studio desktop (must install)" and "Ubunut Desktop"?
[19:59] <not_jrib> Codemaster: does apt-get still run and awn is launched as a side effect or does apt-get not run at all?
[19:59] <Petrov> i have a problem: buffer i/0 error on device sr0 anyone a idea?
[19:59] <Spherous> ﻿﻿I did the update via the Update Manager.  It hung on cleaning obsolete files. but now its asking me to delete all 544 files on my pc.  Including Xorg, Xserver, all libs, EVERYTHING.  Should I hit clean and it updates them all? or do I press keep?
[19:59] <Myoukochou> Flannel: Interesting point. 1% of a 1000GB disk is still 10GB, which is a little big for a /boot.
[19:59] <Codemaster> not_jrib: doesn't run at all
 ~35 GB
[19:59] <Daisuke-Ido> alrighty then
[19:59] <Codemaster> currently sort of boned and annoyed
[19:59] <Thayle> psusi: Well my laptop has 4gb but apparently it can be upgraded to 8gb, so if I decide to do that it would be better to have 64-bit right?
[19:59] <dekkong> !bash
[20:00] <Flannel> Myoukochou: there shouldn't be any sort of percentage limitation.
[20:00] <DeathWolf> -!- No results found
[20:00] <dnb1997> can someone link me to wubi for 8.10 if its out?
[20:00] <Daisuke-Ido> finally on the desktop where i can take a look at this gnome-session problem
[20:00] <not_jrib> Spherous: you should pastebin the exact output in full
[20:00] <Myoukochou> Well, there wasn't for me, true...
[20:00] <Flannel> Daisuke-Ido: You just need to download the desktop CD
[20:00] <Flannel> Wavesonics: Are you using the alternate CD? DEsktop CD? what?
[20:00] <Spherous> not_jrib I can't, it only lets me select one of the apps at a time
[20:00] <Wavesonics> Flannel: Server CD
[20:00] <Daisuke-Ido> Flannel: how does that make a difference when i'm already using intrepid?
[20:00] <psusi> Thayle: not really... unless you want one process to be able to use more than 3gb, like if you are going to be editing 5 gig image files ;)
[20:00] <Newbie> Once I go on the wireless network, the internet slows down and sometimes it goes out.
[20:00] <Flannel> Daisuke-Ido: How doeswhat make a difference?
[20:00] <Newbie> I think I found a bug on Hardy Heron
[20:01] <Newbie> Once I go on the wireless network, the internet slows down and sometimes it goes out.
[20:01] <segphault> has anyone here been able to get ubuntu boot on a thinkpad with aUSB
[20:01] <Codemaster> not_jrib: any idea[s]? :(
[20:01] <Daisuke-Ido> sorry if i missed anything between the original question and now, moved from the laptop to the desktop (which is running intrepid already)
[20:01] <Spherous> not_jrib: It is just a list of everything on my pc. like I said, EVERYTHING. all apps, all libs, x,
[20:01] <not_jrib> Spherous: you definitely don't want to remove everything as that is going to leave you with a pretty broken system
[20:01] <Flannel> Wavesonics: Er, Doing manual partitioning?  It should ask you for a size in MB, etc, not a percentage.
[20:01] <Newbie> I dont use launchpad
[20:01] <ais523> Newbie: that happens to me too, but I always assumed it was the connection, not the computer
[20:01] <Daisuke-Ido> well, got a kernel update and some other things, i'm going to restart and see what i can see
[20:01] <kuse> How do I add the NetworkManager applet to a panel, cant find it in the applets list?
[20:01] <Spherous> not_jrib: Yeah, I thought if I pressed remove it would update it all to 8.10 compliant software
[20:01] <lynux> irc.oltreirc.net
[20:01] <Flannel> Daisuke-Ido: Oh, sorry.  I wasn't trying to reply to you.
[20:01] <Newbie> thanks ais523
[20:01] <Gun_Smoke> segphault, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[20:01] <gyven> NiceEXE: dd if=/dev/foo of=mytestfile.out -- many more options to this - man dd or google for full conversion options, etc. -- make sure your hard drive is not mounted when you do this. You will need to create the image on another drive or external disk.
[20:01] <jimmio> Newbie: That's not necessarily a bug... may just be an incompatibility with your Wireless card...
[20:02] <Newbie> oh
[20:02] <Daisuke-Ido> maybe not, or at least not in the standard way...  the shutdown dialog appears, but is entirely blank :\
[20:02] <InvisibleSun> how can I upgrade from the release candidate to the full version of intrepid Ibex?
[20:02] <LordMetroid> Ohh... no one knows what this "Ubuntu Studio desktop (must intall) is at the software selection doalog during the installation?
[20:02] <LordMetroid> !Ubuntu studio desktop
[20:02] <yowshi> holy crapshot way bogged down server getting less then 25 kb/s to get the image
[20:02] <Flannel> dnb1997: You just need to download the 8.10 Desktop CD
[20:02] <LordMetroid> !studio
[20:02] <not_jrib> Codemaster: compare md5sum of your apt-get binary with someone on a similar system.  Or just download the package that provides apt-get from packages.ubuntu.com and reinstall it using dpkg
[20:02]  * Codemaster grumbles.
[20:02] <Codemaster> not_jrib: that might work.
[20:02] <Codemaster> thanks
[20:02] <LordMetroid> !desktop
[20:02] <jimmio> InvisibleSun: update-manager -d
[20:03] <Flannel> yowshi: Use torrents
[20:03] <DASPRiD> did anyone found a solution for this yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hotkeys/+bug/290561
[20:03]  * Codemaster will re-download apt-get from packages
[20:03] <InvisibleSun> allright, thanks will try
[20:03] <amias> anyone got a motorolla dc800 bluetooth audio reciever working with intrepid ?
[20:03] <jimmio> InvisibleSun: sudo update-manager -d    Sorry... some people don't know to use sudo =P
[20:03] <Thayle> Is there anything special I'm going to need to do because I have an Nvidia 9200 or will I be fine?
[20:04] <jimmio> Thayle: You'll need to install the driver, but it's very very simple, done graphically
[20:04] <donithegreat> hi
[20:04] <not_jrib> Codemaster: does running awn start apt-get?  maybe someone played a joke on you
[20:04] <InvisibleSun> @jimmio : I already made a shortcut with -d on the desktop so that's allright :d
[20:04] <donithegreat> can anyone see me?
[20:04] <reiki_> no
[20:04] <euxneks> donithegreat, no.
[20:04] <not_jrib> donithegreat: I can't see you, but I can read what you type.
[20:04] <donithegreat> :)
[20:04] <Codemaster> not_jrib: no one has had access to this
[20:05] <Codemaster> i think my fsck just messed things up, that's all
[20:05] <dnb1997> Flannel: and then what?
[20:05] <not_jrib> Codemaster: ah, yeah that sounds like it could do it.  I'd be wary of what else it messed up though
[20:05] <Flannel> dnb1997: Then pop in the CD while you're running windows
[20:05] <dnb1997> ah ok
[20:05] <jimmio> InvisibleSun: You can set in software sources under the updates tab to enable distro upgrade on all upgrades btw, so that shortcut isn't needed
[20:05] <Codemaster> not_jrib: lovely; any idea to check maybe? also, what package is apt-get in?
[20:06] <Thayle> Does anyone know whether or not the Intel 5100AGN wireless card works in intrepid?
[20:06] <cygoku> What is the official url to get the dvd version of Intrepid ?!?!
[20:06] <donithegreat> hi am new to ubuntu!i dont know how to instal firefox version 3.03.i have downloaded the file tar gz i mean i have extracted it but i dont know what to do withit.can anyone help me?
[20:06]  * cyphase has noticed that, after every Ubuntu release, the average number of people in #ubuntu goes up
[20:06] <cyphase> not just in the days after the release
[20:06] <r3z> heh
[20:06] <trimeta> donithegreat: Ubuntu should already have Firefox 3.0.3 installed.
[20:06] <Yimpolo> donithegreat: use apt-get
[20:06] <InvisibleSun> apparently there is no update available when I use update-manager -d, and I did make the change in software sources, I suppose It automatically updated from RC to full version
[20:07] <donithegreat> tritrimeta mine has  a firefox 3 beta 5
[20:07] <not_jrib> InvisibleSun: it is true that you are updated from RC to final automatically with update-manager.  I'm not sure what change to sources you are talking about though
[20:07] <cyphase> donithegreat: you installed Hardy, 8.04
[20:07] <Codemaster> donithegreat: I'd recommend using a program called called "Synaptic" (i think you can access it via System > Administration). You can search for various software in that.
[20:07] <cyphase> donithegreat: Intrepid, 8.10 is out
[20:07] <jimmio> donithegreat: It's already installed...? and you use Apt-Get for installs... System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager is the GUI version.
[20:07] <trimeta> donithegreat: Try doing "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade"
[20:07] <gnu> salut
[20:08] <cyphase> donithegreat: you should install 8.10
[20:08] <trimeta> That should bring everything up to date.
[20:08] <epifanio> hi, i've installed right now ubuntu on my desktop ... can you point me on how to check which driver video need i to install ?
[20:08] <compton> how do I enable the built in remote desktop (vnc) in ubuntu from ssh?
[20:08] <epifanio> how to detect my card name (i know it is nvidea) ... i'm lloking on how to install the "propietary drivers"
[20:08] <jimmio> cyphase: At least tell him to look at the bugs first o.O
[20:08] <not_jrib> epifanio: system -> administration -> hardware
[20:08] <Codemaster> compton: i had to do something with gconf2tool or something
[20:08] <cyphase> jimmio: ?
[20:08] <Codemaster> compton: basically enabling it by force, per-say :]
[20:08] <compton> Codemaster, thanks, do you have logs you could search for it?
[20:08] <InvisibleSun> @ not_jrib : the software sources change to automatically download standard versions instead of longtime support versions
[20:08] <donithegreat> cyphase the thing is i wanns learn how to install programs on ubuntu,firefox isnt the problem
[20:08] <pr0fane> I have 2GB of ram, how big should be swap partition?
[20:08] <Daisuke_Ido> as usual, a reboot fixed the problem, but this is absolutely ridiculous :\
[20:09] <Codemaster> compton: nope, sorry
[20:09] <philippe_> Hi. I often experience visual bug in my top software bar. It was present in 8.04 and yet it still there in 8.10. Is there any way to correct this? Here what it look --> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6742/desktopje2.jpg
[20:09] <not_jrib> !software | donithegreat
[20:09] <Yimpolo> donithegreat: type sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:09] <psusi> pr0fane: preferably, 2 gb
[20:09] <Yimpolo> It will install the latest version
[20:09] <jimmio> cyphase: There's some bugs in 8.10... causing a few key issues... as in not detecting SATA (scsi) drives on a certain Intel main board...?
[20:09] <pr0fane> ok thx
[20:09] <Codemaster> compton: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[20:09] <jacekowski> pr0fane: 0
[20:09] <jacekowski> pr0fane: i have 1G of ram and no swap at all
[20:10] <NicEXE> how can I take a backup of my ext3 partition using Ubuntu live CD? (manually copy the files does not work... access denied on some files/folders)
[20:10] <pr0fane> What is good about having a swap partition?
[20:10] <compton> Codemaster, thank you
[20:10] <Codemaster> anytime
[20:10] <psusi> jacekowski: you'll have a hard time hibernating without swap ;)
[20:10] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, i ran strace -p on the gnome-session process, and it was literally walls of text about too many open files :\
[20:10] <compton> nicexe: as root?
[20:10] <jacekowski> psusi: only suspend
[20:10] <donithegreat> well i have another question too
[20:10] <pr0fane> ok thx
[20:10] <jacekowski> pr0fane: linux uses swap in case there is not enough memory
[20:10] <NicEXE> I can't be root if I am using live CD
[20:10] <compton> NicEXE, try sudo before the copy command
[20:11] <jacekowski> pr0fane: it's like pagefile on windows
[20:11] <cabrioleur> NicEXE, man dd
[20:11] <donithegreat> i have installed ubuntu from window .does that affects it's perfomance?
[20:11] <cabrioleur> donithegreat, yes.
[20:11] <Pyrophelia> no it doesn't
[20:11] <Yimpolo> Installed it from Windows?
[20:12] <Yimpolo> I don't see how that would make any difference
[20:12] <cabrioleur> HD access times.
[20:12] <donithegreat> yes i have installed it from windows on a ntfs format disc drive
[20:12] <pr0fane> the setup of ubuntu 8.10 asks me about installation size
[20:12] <pr0fane> what is installation size and how big should it be
[20:12] <jacekowski> psusi: i've been using linux now for over eight years
[20:12] <elamsusa> Hi, anyone here have experience d/l Ubuntu 8.10 on a Mac, burning a disk, and running it in VMware?
[20:12] <Codemaster> jrib: reinstalling the package seems to have helped, thanks
[20:12] <cdickerson> wow, I dont think ive ever seen a larger irc channel </captainobvious?
[20:12] <Daisuke_Ido> donithegreat: it's going to be a little slower, but nothing truly drastic, i would imagine
[20:13] <cdickerson> elamsusa: you dont need to burn a disk you can install from the DL'ed iso
[20:13] <pr0fane> 8.10 setup asks me about installatin size
[20:13] <jacekowski> psusi: and from my experience swap on desktop with more than 1G memory is unused for 99% of time
[20:13] <cdickerson> elamsusa: ubuntu is even an option in fusion for th type of linux you want
[20:13] <pr0fane> how big should it be?
[20:13] <elamsusa> vm didn't recognize the d/l
[20:13] <_biker_geek_> elamsusa: You shouldn't have to burn a disk.  You can mount the ISO from the VMWare admin.
[20:13] <cdickerson> anyone running on a mac book pro and have clamshell mode working?
[20:14] <elamsusa> I downloaded the files, but how do I turn it inot a iso?
[20:14] <donithegreat> i hate linux, sudo apt-get install firefox this command is still on 0% after 10 minitues whats the problem?
[20:14] <avarus> not linux
[20:14] <cdickerson> elamsusa: didnt you DL an iso?
[20:14] <EASYxTARGET> don, the servers are pretty stressed right now
[20:14] <_biker_geek_> elamsusa:  The files that you downloaded aren't an ISO?
[20:14] <elamsusa> linux is great! it just isn't behaving for me right now
[20:14] <Yimpolo> donithegreat, are you on linux right now?
[20:14] <jgoguen> pr0fane: depends on whether you'll use it for hibernation...I have 2GB RAM and I set my swap to 2GB...some people report that much less, or none, works fine for them but I've noticed performance problems with no swap
[20:14] <cdickerson> donithegreat: id imagine because fo 8.10 coming out the servers is hammered.
[20:14] <jacekowski> psusi: it is usefull on servers in case of memleak because then it waste disk space instead of memory
[20:14] <Daisuke_Ido> donithegreat: nice way to associate unrelated things - this is a new release day, the servers are extremely slow at the moment
[20:15] <_biker_geek_> cdickerson:  Sorry... hehe... I'm not trying to repeat your messages.  You type faster than I do. :)
[20:15] <elamsusa> I went to download an Ubuntu CD
[20:15] <cdickerson> _biker_geek_: no worries :)
[20:15] <cdickerson> elamsusa: what are 'the files' then.
[20:15] <cygoku> What is the official url to get the dvd version of Intrepid ?!?!
[20:15] <Yimpolo> I installed 8.10 earlier this morning.... Yay!
[20:15] <pr0fane> ok I vill make a 2GB swap partition
[20:15] <pr0fane> but what is installation size in ubuntu 8.10 setup
[20:15] <methylate1> How to upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[20:16] <pr0fane> i will put a size that i will like?
[20:16] <XThief> Did the final version of 8.10 change anything from the Release Candidate?
[20:16] <paul68> back how do I add the vista boot back to my menu.lst
[20:16] <jacekowski> pr0fane: if you doesn't want to use suspend to disk you don't need swap at all
[20:16] <jgoguen> cygoku: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[20:16] <cdickerson> methylate1: wait for the rush to die down, if you upgrade stalls you will have loads of trouble
[20:16] <pr0fane> i use suspend to disk sometimesd
[20:16] <avarus> Ax3, f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso <.. from bittorrent...I'm going to burn this shit now and try it again :)
[20:16] <dulak> At least once a week someone in here advises not to run with swap, which is simply retarded as a default policy.  Swaps is useful in so many situations it's simply stupid to run without it just on the off chance you won't need it.
[20:16] <jgoguen> pr0fane: then you will want at least as much swap as you have RAM
[20:17] <elamsusa> auotrun.inf, md5sum.txt, umenu.exe., wubi.exe,  and folders named casper, dists, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed, Ubuntu 8.10 i386
[20:17] <dulak> It's bad advice.
[20:17] <pr0fane> but please help me about installation size in ubuntu 8.10 setup
[20:17] <mtozses_> hi
[20:17] <lbci> network manager not seeing wireless option on reboot... if i deactivate reactivate atheros and leftclick on NM icon it logs in fine, just dont like doing it every reboot?
[20:17] <mtozses_> 00:05.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 1038 (rev 62) <--- does this look okay?
[20:17] <jacekowski> dulak: no it isn't
[20:17] <methylate1> cdickerson: OK, thank you
[20:17] <Ax3> that's what I got too avarus, both times in fact
[20:17] <reiki_> I have 4 gigs of RAM... I have 1 gig of swap... swap hasn't been touched in all the time I've had Hardy running
[20:18] <allele> ubuntu is showing me two processors in my system monitor, which vista never did, so does this mean up until now I was never using my processors to their full potential?
[20:18] <Gnea> reiki_: you'd have to run a lot of programs to make that happen :)
[20:18] <dulak> jacekowski: yes it is, it's horrible advice given by people with rigid thinking who refuse to understand that not everyone has the same usage patterns they do.
[20:18] <cdickerson> methylate1: did you see that guy saying hes trying to get firefox and its at 0% after 10 min. that will be you for HOURS. wait a week and it should speed up. :)
[20:18] <Codemaster> thanks for your help
[20:18] <Codemaster> going to upgrade to intrepid now 8)
[20:18] <avarus> allele, it's probably a p4?
[20:18] <dulak> jacekowski: running without swap is the exception, not the rule
[20:18] <pr0fane> can someone help me
[20:18] <allele> no amd turion 64x2
[20:18] <cabrioleur> allele, no, not you have a separated view on their performance.
[20:18] <Gnea> pr0fane: with?
[20:18] <Ax3> reiki_, 4G of RAM, you don't even need swap lol
[20:18] <reiki_> Gnea: I have... on all 4 desktop spaces... about 20 or 30 things running. It just doesn't seem to need swap for teh stuff I do.... and that can be different for different people I'm sure
[20:18] <avarus> allele, mmh...then yes :)
[20:19] <ianliu_88> is this chat for hardy or intrepid?
[20:19] <cabrioleur> allele, it has nothing to do with the usage of them.
[20:19] <pr0fane> im installing ubuntu 8.10 ..how big should be installation sizze
[20:19] <DasEi1> prOfane: you need (least and about) 10 gig
[20:19] <Ax3> reiki_, unless you're using some real memory intense applications
[20:19] <Gnea> reiki_: nice
[20:19] <vbabiy> Are we going to get Open Office 3 on Ubuntu 8.10 or is going to have to wait till 9.04
[20:19] <DasEi1> pr0fane: you need (least and about) 10 gig
[20:19] <Yasumoto> ianliu_88: both, though I'm sure the focus is on Intrepid since it was released today
[20:19] <allele> alright, well since it has amd in the processor name should I switch from the i386 ubuntu to the x64?
[20:19] <Gnea> !install | pr0fane
[20:19] <dulak> jacekowski: you should not be advising anyone new to linux to run without swap, it's something they can decide after they understand linux better, not when they are new
[20:19] <lucax> i only can find packages in the terminal with sudo apt-get install but cant in synaptic... whats wrong?
[20:19] <Thayle> Alright guys! I am off to install 8.10! Hopefully the next time I talk to you it will be on UBUNTU!!!
[20:19] <jacekowski> dulak: so if somebody have 4G of ram
[20:19] <Gnea> pr0fane: check that first URL that ubottu gave you, it's very helpful
[20:20] <jacekowski> dulak: how large swap should be then
[20:20] <dulak> jacekowski: I would still advise 1g of swap minimum
[20:20] <RobertAlblas> Paul68, is het gelukt?
[20:20] <avarus> I agree with dulak
[20:20] <PassionFRUI7E> Is there a way to remove items from GRUB?
[20:20] <Yasumoto> vbabiy: there might be a backport later on, though you can always install it on your own (you just won't have the advantage of auto-updates and such)
[20:20] <askand> Ok, I am a newbie with nvidia cards..I am given the choice to install version 173 or 177, what should I choose?
[20:20] <sevenseeker> I am getting a 'Exec format error' with a init script, verbose is not helping gain more information.  Googling hasn't revealed much either.
[20:20] <askand> Ive got a nVidia Corporation GeForce 6150SE
[20:20] <avarus> Ax3, I'm trying it, brb :P
[20:20] <vbabiy> Yasumoto: yeah that is what I was looking for
[20:20] <jacekowski> dulak: WHY?
[20:20] <Yasumoto> PassionFRUI7E: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:20] <reiki_> I usually clear out a partition, install clean.... make sure it works... and then transfer stuff over to a new install.
[20:20] <Yasumoto> vbabiy: to download it yourself?
[20:21] <DasEi1> Gnea:though I'll keep on hardy for some time, is it planned to use this channel for ibex ?
[20:21] <jimmio> askand: I'm pretty sure they both support that card... I'd go with the older one though, as that is a pretty dated card.
[20:21] <jacekowski> dulak: and show me your free -m
[20:21] <ianliu_88> Intrepid has OpenOffice 3?
[20:21] <Gnea> DasEi1: yes, and we will be supporting hardy for awhile (i'm still running hardy :) )
[20:21] <ais523> Gnea: quite a while, given that it's LTS
[20:21] <rgreening> ianliu_88: no
[20:21] <paul68> RobertAlblas: ik ben mijn vista menu kwijt
[20:21] <PassionFRUI7E> ﻿Yasumoto:  Thanks, perfect.
[20:21] <Gnea> ais523: yup
[20:21] <askand> jimmio: Do you think I will have better performance using the older driver?
[20:21] <DasEi1> Gnea:is there a date for the change ?
[20:21] <dulak> jacekowski: you can give me one reason why running without swap is a good idea, I can list a dozen situations where swap will help, and keep a noob from screwing himself.
[20:22] <Gnea> DasEi1: on the website
[20:22] <vbabiy> Yasumoto: to have full Ubuntu support
[20:22] <tarelerulz> I am think about moving  my home directory to different partition .  I was wondering how much space dose the rest of Ubuntu really need to be ?  I want to keep all my docs , songs , movies , compiled program and so on
[20:22] <jimmio> askand: It shouldn't matter either way.... I'd stick to the older one to be on the safe side though.
[20:22] <lbci> network manager not seeing wireless option on reboot... if i deactivate reactivate atheros and leftclick on NM icon it logs in fine. Any ideas?
[20:22] <DasEi1> Gnea:nice, but might be little hyped now, lol, thx
[20:22] <velko> tarelerulz, 3-4 gb maximum
[20:22] <sYskk> is it easy to pass from ubuntu to kubuntu or do you need a format ?
[20:22] <unitedpotsmokers> hello... im using hardy heron now, but i heard ubuntu 8.10 coming out, how to upgrade my system?
[20:22] <Gnea> DasEi1: sorry, http://ubuntu.com/support specifically
[20:22] <pr0fane> Is it a good idea to install ubuntu 8.10 inside windows
[20:22] <psusi> jacekowski: it's useful on servers so they can still load a gui desktop but when it's idle for days and weeks, can be swapped out to free up ram ;)
[20:22] <PassionFRUI7E> pr0fane:  Waste of tme
[20:22] <Gnea> DasEi1: not really, we've got a lot of seeds in place now :)
[20:22] <dulak> jacekowski: I am not criticizing you running without swap, I'm criticizing you advising other people to do so without understanding the consequences
[20:23] <reiki_> dulak: even though I don't use swap... I still recommend anyone new using it at LEAST until tehy can be sure they don't need it. However I did find teh default swap sizes a bit outlandish
[20:23] <jacekowski> dulak: it saves disk space
[20:23] <pr0fane> what do u mean by that
[20:23] <PassionFRUI7E> pr0fane:  Defeats the purpose of linux
[20:23] <Gnea> pr0fane: depends on your needs
[20:23] <Gnea> PassionFRUI7E: no.
[20:23] <PassionFRUI7E> pr0fane:  If you want a trial run the desktop from the CD.
[20:23] <Gnea> pr0fane: if you're not used to it yet and want to get used to it, it's not a bad idea
[20:23] <pr0fane> disk performance is slightly reduced...
[20:23] <Gnea> !wubi | pr0fane
[20:23] <cygoku> What is the official url to get the DVD DVD DVD version of Intrepid ?!?!
[20:23] <jgoguen> cygoku: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[20:23] <avarus> what's a dvd dvd dvd?
[20:23] <Gnea> PassionFRUI7E: that's not necessary anymore.
[20:24] <pr0fane> im used to ubuntu
[20:24] <velko> cygoku, please stop! you overdo it really!
[20:24] <csilk> Anyone know of a way to backup up all your wifi configs?
[20:24] <tarelerulz>  velko ,is your system  set up like  the home on its own partition  and the rest /boot ,/bin ,/etc  taking up 4 gb ?
[20:24] <jimmio> pr0fane: It will be as slow as molasses especially if it's a single core PC (like mine D:)
[20:24] <Yasumoto> vbabiy: gotcha
[20:24] <Jeruvy> cygoku: you've been told, also read the topic :)
[20:24] <BleSS> how to grow up a directory? only temporary --it's necessary 1G on /var to upgrade it--
[20:24] <kuse> My nm-applet is missing from the notifying-area, even if i restaet nm-applet it wont appear, anyone knows how to fix it?
[20:24] <dulak> reiki: I agree, I wish the installer did a better job estimating a sane swap size, but better too much than not enough for someone new
[20:24] <pr0fane> installation will be slow or the os it self?
[20:24] <jacekowski> dulak: Mem:          2022       1842        179          0        143       1005 Swap:         8001          0       8000
[20:24] <csilk> Anyone know of a way to backup up all your wifi configs so they can easily be imported on another machine?
[20:24] <n0wje> using 8.10 and it's great no wow as fa as desktop  but stable.
[20:25] <velko> tarelerulz, root+home. no separate usr, var, boot, etc...
[20:25] <dulak> jacekowski: again, your specific situation is fine, I dont' care if you run without swap, but don't advise other people who don't understand it to do so
[20:25] <Gnea> BleSS: qparted can do it
[20:25] <n0wje> that would be far
[20:25] <Neeeewbee> Anyone know how to change from compiz to metacity on startup?
[20:25] <jgoguen> cygoku: there's no Ubuntu DVD, only a CD
[20:25] <pr0fane> installation will be slow or the os it self...(installing inside windows)
[20:25] <velko> tarelerulz, and i just looked up: my root partition is 4.1 gb
[20:25] <vbabiy> Yasumoto: thanks for your help
[20:25] <Chel> I have a problem, quite possibly complicated - do i write it here or can I speak to someone in pm?
[20:25] <reiki_> dulak: at one point a default install was giving me an 8GB swap when I had 4GB of memory.... weirdness.... :)
[20:25] <pr0fane> ?
[20:25] <csilk> Chel,  write here
[20:25] <velko> tarelerulz, i mean - 4.1 gb are used
[20:25] <ais523> Chel: write it in one line if you can, then people can talk it through with you over PM if they're interested
[20:25] <cygoku> Darn, what about ppl without blank CD handy huh ?!?!
[20:25] <reiki_> Chel: spit it out right here on the floor
[20:25] <juniecho> oh yeah!!!! somebody please say congratulations!! sucessfully nullified touchscreen input without damaging stylus pen!!!! hell yeah!!
[20:25] <Guest63357> Is there any difference between upgrading from the Internet or Upgrading from an alternative CD?
[20:26] <Chel> ais523 - okay, thanks
[20:26] <askand> jimmio: ok how often does nvidia drivers get out for linux?
[20:26] <jimmio> reiki: So? It can't hurt to have that much swap
[20:26] <jimmio> askand: You won't need to update.... for a LONG time
[20:26] <csilk> Anyone know of a way to backup up all your wifi configs so they can easily be imported on another machine?
[20:26] <juniecho> Gnea// are you there :)
[20:26] <jgoguen> cygoku: then burn the CD image to a blank DVD, and if you don't have one of those handy either then it doesn't matter which you get :)
[20:26] <askand> jimmio: = they does not release very often :(
[20:26] <pipegeek> I've been using  ubuntu since warty, and this was the first upgrade that went smoothly throughout, and resulted in a bootable, working system
[20:26] <NicEXE> every time I open the terminal my PC freezes... what's wrong?
[20:26] <pipegeek> with one caveat---network-manager seems to be disabled
[20:27] <pipegeek> my interface didn't come up on boot or login
[20:27] <NicEXE> it's really annoying
[20:27] <sevenseeker> can anyone help with my 'start-stop-daemon' problem (Exec format error)?
[20:27] <pipegeek> and there's no network manager icon in the system tray
[20:27] <pipegeek> any idea how to fix that?
[20:27] <jimmio> askand: = they're dropping support slowly with new drivers
[20:27] <Chel> question - I have a dedicated server in a distant location - fresh ubuntu server install. I want to run some programs under WINE, but they need the gui component, so I'm trying to set up VNC - though have failed massively after several attempts. I am ssh'ing into the box
[20:27] <askand> jimmio: :( I knew I should have bought an aticard
[20:28] <jimmio> askand: That card is ANCIENT...
[20:28] <Guest63357> Any difference between upgrading from Internet and upgrading using Alternative CD?
[20:28] <evan_> hey i messed up the userrights in my ubuntu system, will it be restored after upgrade to 8.10?
[20:28] <jimmio> askand: Well, ancient in today's terms =P I have a 6800...
[20:29] <askand> jimmio: that would explain the price.. you dont happen to know if I can have both an integrated card and a regular card and only using the latter?
[20:29] <TuxSympathiser> Guest63357, yes, upgrading from the internet means you download the packages whilst you upgrade whereas they install from the CD if you use the CD
[20:29] <whyz> hi all. I just upgraded to 8.10, and now network manager does not show in the notification bar. it doesn't show up if i run NetworkManager from console either
[20:29] <Neeeewbee> This is hilarious. Is there in documentation that explains how to switch from "Compiz" to "Metacity" on startup?
[20:29] <tarelerulz> So how small can  Ubuntu install be ?     I want my home on its own partition  for all my songs , movies , doc , compiled programs
[20:29] <Thayle> So I'm back and sad! I'm still on vista. When trying to install the cd I got some iwlagn error that said something about timing out after 500ms and then nothing happened after that...
[20:30] <askand> deluge 1.0.3 or deluge in the repos? What do you think people? Any oppinions?
[20:30] <Daisuke_Ido> just out of curiosity...  how would i reset my gnome config to default?  because renaming/removing ~/.gnome2 didn't do it.
[20:30] <jimmio> askand: Yup, just disable the internal video from the bios, you should be fine. if you plan on upgrading, I'd go for an 8800 GT, cheap, and only one PCIe 2.0 x16 slot
[20:30] <NicEXE> when I open the terminal my PC goes super laggy... It doesn't let you work. What's wrong?
[20:30] <ckwalsh> 52 % on alt install cd :D
[20:30] <velko> tarelerulz, the base debian install is about 100 mb. but you don't have gui, etc. it depends on what do you want to install i guess
[20:30] <ckwalsh> bleh, wrong window
[20:30] <askand> Daisuke_Ido: remove .gconf something I think
[20:30] <mtozses_> why do i get no usb device even if i have http://pastebin.com/f42688868 is dmesg?
[20:30] <Thayle> No one knows whats wrong?
[20:30] <cygoku> jgoguen : how can I burn a CD image to a DVD ?!?!
[20:30] <ubuntu> hola
[20:30] <Guest63357> Tuxsympathiser, Thanks, i just tried upgrading from the Internet and it will take 9 hours to download packages. While if i download the alternative CD using bittorrent, it would go faster. But, i was afraid that the Alternative CD won't install all the packages.
[20:30] <askand> jimmio: Aha I tought you meant they were dropping support slowly for all cards :)
[20:30] <jacekowski> cygoku: you can't
[20:31] <ubuntu> que tal
[20:31] <mker> askand: I always go with the repos, then I get security updates and don't have to worry about anything. it's just easier that way.
[20:31] <ubuntu> español
[20:31] <jgoguen> jacekowski: I did it last night
[20:31] <pw-> is there a wifi guide for 8.10? apparently it's not as friendly towards atheros as promised
[20:31] <Guest63357> Almost done download alternative CD using Bittorrent :)
[20:31] <cygoku> wtfudge
[20:31] <Guest63357> downloading **
[20:31] <jgoguen> cygoku: you put the blank DVD in, select the CD image, and click burn...in most cases
[20:31] <linxeh> not just security updates - bug fixes too! :)
[20:31] <whyz> pw-: i've noticed that too.. :(
[20:31] <cygoku> INTREPID DVD IMAGE : http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/
[20:31] <larsemil> how does 8.10 handle keyboard layouts? i want to manually hack my swedish layout but cant find the files i am used to change. :)
[20:32] <pw-> whyz, aye, it's a bit discouraging, as i've eagerly been awaiting this release just for the wifi support
[20:32] <jimmio> askand: Ohhh, no no no... xD they dropped 3D support for GeForce 4000's... 6's are fine for now though
[20:32] <pipegeek> any idea why, after upgrading to intrepid, network manager doesn't see either of my network cards?
[20:32] <mker> larsemil: when you install you get the choice of swedish, swedish dvorak, and so on. other than that I don't know :)
[20:32] <paul__> Hello everybody, i got a Razer Lachesis mouse and was trying to find some software that would help me configure it. I found this tool here http://www.bu3sch.de/razercfg.php and downloaded the tar.bz2 and im not sure about what I am supposed to do with the files inside it.
[20:32] <Thayle> So no one knows why I would get some iwlagn error that times out 500ms when trying to install ubuntu?
[20:32] <larsemil> mker: i want to manually hack it now.
[20:32] <whyz> pw-: same here. i had it working nicely (but had to redo it all after each kernel update), but now networkmanager doesn't even work for me
[20:32] <askand> jimmio: ok thanks! will check 8800b GT out!
[20:33] <pw-> having the same problem here, feeling a bit angry >.>
[20:33] <Guest63357> While i'm here, can anyone provide a link to recompiling kernel the Ubuntu's way? I know Debian has it's own way of recompiling kernel.
[20:33] <seb-_> help! can't seem to change default DVD app
[20:33] <ais523> paul__: if there's a file called Makefile in it, cd into its directory, then type make && sudo make install. If not, and there's a file called configure, do ./configure && make && sudo make install
[20:33] <Thayle> I think this was the error iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_SCAN_ABORT_CMD: time out after 500ms.
[20:33] <tarelerulz> velko, I have gnome  and desktop install and all the updates .   Bunch of media programs .  4 gb sound good for programs . Never seen one take up that much at all.  The only thing I have that takes up space is songs. movies ,   So, I think get way with 4gb
[20:33] <jacekowski> Thayle: wireless kill switch
[20:33] <maxxxo> hi there! anyone knows how i can auto-mount a ntfs volume after login to a gnome session?
[20:33] <MatBoy> man, why has Ubuntu 64 bits so many problems with updating the last weeks ?
[20:33] <MatBoy> all broken pipelines :S
[20:33] <Thayle> jacekowski: what?
[20:33] <lbci> pw-: if i deactivate reactivate my atheros then left click on network manager it starts working, maybe it will help you?
[20:33] <jimmio> askand: np =D
[20:33] <DasEi1> !compile| paul__:
[20:34] <jacekowski> Thayle: switch on laptop to turn off wireless
[20:34] <Guest91356> A QUESTION: with the new 8.10 release, the 8.04 lts upgrades still exists? of all packets? or is two diffeent road so eg the fully working (instead the "buggy" existing one) networkmanager 0.7.0 can be added by the 8.4 upgrades? thx
[20:34] <NicEXE> is there any way to launch nautilus as root without using the terminal? (I am on Ubuntu)
[20:34] <jacekowski> Thayle: switch it to enable position
[20:34] <velko> tarelerulz, yes - i installed a lot of stuff: texlive, dev tools, you name it. i think 4 gigs will be enough
[20:34] <Thayle> jacekowski: I honestly dont think my laptop even has that
[20:34] <ais523> Thayle: it's Fn-F2 on my laptop, but different laptops have it in different positions
[20:34] <pw-> lbci, tried that, activating it isn't picked up by ubuntu, light stays off, etc
[20:34] <Flare183> Guest91356: Yes
[20:34] <DasEi1> Guest91356: the LTS is suppoted till 2011
[20:34] <donithegreat> when i go to appearance preferences on visual tab i cant switch to normal ,why is that?
[20:34] <jimcooncat> what is the "debian way" to pull custom configurations from a central server, re-make a .deb package? for example, include a custom  /etc/ssh/sshd_config for openssh-server.
[20:35] <lbci> pw-:do you know exactly what atheros chip you have?
[20:35] <unitedpotsmokers> hello my friends, i upgrade hardy to interpid, but i can't upgrade it said problem with networking... why eh?
[20:35] <pw-> 242x
[20:35] <nickharper> Quick question, I'm running a mac book pro Santa Rosa, I just installed Hardy Heron in Parallels and I'm needing some help setting up my wifi.
[20:35] <DJones> NicEXE: press Alt+F2 and enter gksudo nautilus + password
[20:35] <Glu31> I wish I knew how to open the ports on my router/modem so I can actually torrent properly
[20:35] <Neeeewbee> Does anyone know how to switch window managers? I want METACITY at startup but don't know which files to manipulate?? Thanks
[20:35] <donithegreat> >	when i go to appearance preferences on visual tab i cant switch to normal ,why is that?
[20:35] <Thayle> ais523: I dont see anything that would do that... I have an HP if that helps.
[20:35] <surfmaths> I want to download ubuntu 8.10. What is the best way ?
[20:36] <alevine> Glu31: depending on your router and bt client, it might do it automatically
[20:36] <Guest91356> Flare183, DasEi1 thx, so ALL, or pretty all, packets (and not the securiy/patches only) will remain upgraded? thx
[20:36] <pipegeek> NetworkManager doesn't see any network interfaces (despite the fact that ifconfig sees them all, and dhclient runs successfully) after an upgrade to intrepid.  Anyone know why this might be?
[20:36] <ais523> Thayle: look for a symbol on one of the buttons, normally in blue, that looks like an antenna or a broadcast symbol
[20:36] <Thayle> And here I thought the linux kernel in 8.10 had support for my wireless card :(((
[20:36] <jacekowski> Thayle: correctg
[20:36] <MatBoy> no-one problems with updating on Ubuntu 64 bits ?
[20:36] <crimsun> Neeeewbee: you can either kill the window manager then start the intended one, or you can export WINDOW_MANAGER=foo in ~/.gnomerc
[20:36] <Flare183> Guest91356: yes until they come out with another LTS Release
[20:37] <velko> jimcooncat, you can have local repos (directories on your hard disk or mounted trough nfs) in apt.sources
[20:37] <tcmetropole> olá
[20:37] <almostdvs> is 5.5mbps an appropriate speed for a usb2.0 portable hdd?
[20:37] <tmccrary> I'm that lucky, lucky club
[20:37] <DasEi1> Guest91356: think so, but I will give both , hardy and ibex a parallel time
[20:37] <donithegreat> when i go to appearance preferences on visual tab i cant switch to normal ,why is that?
[20:37] <Flare183> !es | tcmetropole
[20:37] <jacekowski> almostdvs: no
[20:37] <tmccrary> I upgraded to Intrepid and nvidia drivers don't work anymore
[20:37] <tmccrary> at all
[20:37] <tmccrary> hooray!
[20:37] <whyz> pw-: i reinstalled networkmanager and networkmanager-gnome.. now it starts at least.
[20:37] <Thayle> ais523: I have a little antenna buy the music buttons thats blue but I dont think its a touch button or anything...
[20:37] <jacekowski> almostdvs: normall hard drive have speed at least 10x faster
[20:37] <tcmetropole> alquem do brasil
[20:38] <Thayle> by*
[20:38] <donithegreat> when i go to appearance preferences on visual tab i cant switch to normal ,why is that?
[20:38] <ais523> Thayle: is it on one of the keys of the keyboard, or next to them?
[20:38] <surfmaths> Bittorrent is a big shit. It upload more efficiently than it download.
[20:38] <Flare183> !b | tcmetropole
[20:38] <Guest91356> thx to both, here apart two little problem the system is very solid, so i wait some times for a upgrade
[20:38] <DasEi1>  tmccrary:I had same experience, its because of xorg 7.4 (or was it 7.3 ??)
[20:38] <almostdvs> jacekowski: so, do you have any clue why that is or how to fix it
[20:38] <ais523> Thayle: if so, try holding down Fn and pressing that button
[20:38] <pipegeek> :-\
[20:38] <tmccrary> DasEi1: Any solution?
[20:38] <donithegreat> there is no one here who can answer me???? :|
[20:38] <nickharper> No answer for me either?
[20:38] <pipegeek> Is there anyone in this room who knows anything about NetworkManager?
[20:38] <Thayle> ais523: well its not on the keyboard
[20:38] <almostdvs> donithegreat: do you have restricted drivers?
[20:39] <ais523> Thayle: ah, in that case I don't know then
[20:39] <DasEi1>  tmccrary:its known, and hardy is still well supported, uhm> you'll develop it ?
[20:39] <Thayle> ais523: and its also not exactly a button
[20:39] <rhosigma> where can i go to get help with setting up a stream using Exalie?
[20:39] <mker> Yay, I found a bug in Seahorse - Ubuntu 8.10
[20:39] <starscalling> mker: ?
[20:39] <tmccrary> So, let me get this straight, Intrepid got released without support for the only decent 3d hardware available for it?
[20:39] <g_> anyone here installed intrepid on the acer aspire one? The wireless does not work...
[20:39] <DasEi1> !who| tmccrary:
[20:40] <starscalling> tmccrary: whats that?
[20:40] <pw-> g_, you're not the only one, everyone seems to be having wireless problems
[20:40] <rhosigma> can anyone help me out with the error:   Shout library could not be loaded. You need libshout 2 and shout python bindings. Streaming will not be available
[20:40] <jimcooncat> velko: thanks, I would make a repo.
[20:40] <Thayle> ais523: I was able to install 8.04 a few months ago on the laptop...
[20:40] <starscalling> what are you trying to get working?
[20:40] <Flare183> g_: Find and get the atheros drivers and install them for your wireless card
[20:40] <tmccrary> DasEi1: Thanks but I wasn't speaking to anyone in particular
[20:40] <nickharper> Quick question, I'm running a mac book pro Santa Rosa, I just installed Hardy Heron in Parallels and I'm needing some help setting up my wifi.
[20:40] <Flare183> !who | starscalling
[20:40] <Thayle> Whatever I'll be back later I have class.
[20:40] <tmccrary> starscalling: No nvidia support?
[20:40] <nekostar> Flare183 i dont know what kinda newb u are
[20:40] <DasEi1>  tmccrary:I havent follow this dicuss right now, wait for the hype going down, ask again in ibex-channel
[20:40] <tmccrary> !who | frankiefiveangels
[20:40] <velko> jimcooncat, i use "reprepro" for easy repo creation. you may give it a shot
[20:40] <mtozses_> why do i get no usb device even if i have http://pastebin.com/f42688868 is dmesg?
[20:40] <nekostar> but obviously the second line goes to the same person as the first one where i nick hilighted them
[20:40] <alec> #psychology
[20:41] <nekostar> !who Flare183
[20:41] <Thayle> I think HP rigged my laptop so I wouldnt be able to install linux on it!!!!
[20:41] <Flare183> nekostar: I am not a newbie, I am a experienced Ubuntu developer
[20:41] <nekostar> well acting like....
[20:41] <Flare183> !botabuse > nekostar
[20:41]  * nekostar shakes head
[20:41] <nekostar> lol
[20:41] <Flare183> !lol
[20:41] <leohartx> i cant config my netmask, someone help me
[20:41] <jimcooncat> velko, I did give it a try with not much luck, but there's plenty of ways to make a repo.
[20:41]  * Flare183 is about to get the ops in here
[20:41] <nekostar> that's right it is irc.
[20:41] <nekostar> and even though your just feeding me, i'll put it this way.
[20:42] <nekostar> lol omg and the rest of them are used in irc as well. if you've a problem with that i can refer you to several forums.
[20:42] <nekostar> any other triggers you would like to run with sir?
[20:42] <Silvernotex> Hello
[20:42] <Flare183> nekostar: this one:
[20:42] <nekostar> !pm
[20:42] <Flare183> !ops | nekostar
[20:42] <jimcooncat> velko: I'm wondering how most admins push out custom configs
[20:42] <nekostar> lol
[20:42] <nekostar> nalioth this is exactly what i was talking about btw
[20:42] <nekostar> ;)
[20:43] <Silvernotex> hello, new person =O
[20:43] <Silvernotex> XD
[20:43] <nekostar> XD
[20:43] <hspaans> jimcooncat: for one server or a thousand?
[20:43] <Flare183> !hi | SlimeyPete
[20:43] <Flare183> oops
[20:43] <Flare183> dang it
[20:43] <nekostar> oh wait Silvernotex we need to do :smiles:
[20:43] <celia_> hola
[20:43] <leohartx> help, i cant config my netmask
[20:43] <jimcooncat> hspaans: five
[20:43] <nekostar> leohartx sure
[20:43] <nekostar> leohartx what is your setup, are you behind a router?
[20:43] <hspaans> jimcooncat: by hand?
[20:43] <Neeeewbee> crimsun: I don't have a .gnomerc file in ~
[20:44] <nekostar> and your using the gnome interface there as well leohartx ?
[20:44] <leohartx> nekostat// no, i can input netmask
[20:44] <jimcooncat> hspaans: by hand is an option, but it would be much better to be reproducable.
[20:44] <sYskk> what are the main differences between ubuntu and ubuntu server edition ?
[20:44] <PeterBye> http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Cop_Charged_With_Stealing_Donuts
[20:44] <crimsun> Neeeewbee: create one
[20:44]  * nekostar pokes SiliconViper with a netinstall cd iso
[20:44] <hspaans> jimcooncat: create a script and run by hand
[20:44] <leohartx> nekostar/ but netmask auto return to 24 when i apply setting
[20:44] <nekostar> leohartx then please describe exactly what steps you took to arrive at your problem
[20:45] <nekostar> leohartx are you putting in a static ip?
[20:45] <donithegreat> when i go to appearance preferences on visual tab i cant switch to normal ,why is that?
[20:45] <hspaans> jimcooncat: or create script and use ssh
[20:45] <pipegeek> Anyone here know how to convince NetworkManager to detect a network interface?
[20:45] <leohartx> nekostar/ yes
[20:45] <Spherous> Okay, big problem here. I went ahead did the upgrade with the update manager.  It listed all the files on my computer telling me they weren't going to work with 8.10, and asked me if I want to remove them all, or keep them all, well, I said keep.  So I finished it, restarted. Logged in smooth. BUT, none of my stuff works.  I can't enable compiz, I can't turn on my graphic drivers, I can't use any screenlets, I can't use my cube, awn is gone. if I go to the u
[20:45] <nekostar> leohartx ok lets do this a bit different. first is ethernet interface eth0 from running in a terminal: ifconfig
[20:45] <Flare183> nekostar: good bye
[20:45] <DasEi1> pipegeek:does lspci find the device ?
[20:45] <nekostar> Spherous run jockey-gtk and get the appropriate nvidia driver
[20:45] <DasEi1> does*
[20:46] <nekostar> Spherous doesnt use nvidia-glx-[old/new/etc]
[20:46] <nekostar> take it easy Flare183
[20:46] <ndotreez> err what do you do if you upgraded to 8.10 and gdm doesn't recognize your keyboard to let you login?
[20:46] <Spherous> nekostar, last time I did that, my screen messed up and I had to completely reformat and reinstall all of ubuntu
[20:46] <cyberix> How do I get such in Intrepid -> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/#rnusers.hamster
[20:46] <Mixed_--_> anyone know what I need to configure so that I can use my samba server's hostname from within linux clients?  It works just fine with windows clients but I need to specify an IP address with linux clients
[20:46] <pipegeek> DasEi1: yes, it does.  And the device works.  I can bring it up manually, and dhclient successfully gets an IP address.  NetworkManager doesn't see it though, so it isn't brought up on boot.  Also, there's no network-manager icon in my gnome system tray.
[20:46] <nekostar> Spherous first remember that you have consoles on alt+f1-f6
[20:46] <nekostar> so please install irssi for me ok?
[20:46] <pipegeek> DasEi1: this is after an upgrade hardy => intrepid
[20:46] <nekostar> and screen
[20:47] <nekostar> you can run that in a terminal inside of screen, and if your X messes up you can continue the irc from the console so you dont have to reinstall!
[20:47] <DasEi1> piegeek:thx for the additional info, I'm not familar enough with that, sry
[20:47] <Zeyelth> If I were to use the netboot install image (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/), would I be installing the stable version of ibex, or a version prior to it?
[20:47] <Flare183> !irssi
[20:47] <nekostar> Zeyelth you would be installing the current packages
[20:47] <Flare183> that might help nekostar
[20:47] <Spherous> nekostar: I know, I tried to use them, but it wouldn't let me 'system restore' to before I did it, and it wouldn't let me fix it
[20:47] <nekostar> Flare183 whats that?
[20:47] <appzer0> hi all
[20:47] <bittin^> hello
[20:48] <danopia> Are the apt mirrors slow for anyone else?
[20:48] <nekostar> Spherous as long as you can boot and run irssi i can help you.
[20:48] <GaryR64> hi everyone, i can't get a connection to the internet. may ubuntu don't know my usb stick? (the stick is from fritz!wlan)
[20:48] <Zeyelth> nekostar: You sure? I'm asking because the file is dated 26th of Oct.
[20:48] <Flare183> nekostar: Was it irrsi you needed help with?
[20:48] <Spherous> nekostar: and no one here in #ubuntu could figure it out~
[20:48] <nekostar> Zeyelth whats that?
[20:48] <nekostar> Zeyelth it just contains drivers basically
[20:48] <DasEi1> danopia:wouldn't try these days, but torrent runs great
[20:48] <Spherous> nekostar: alright... so shall we open a pm and you can walk me through this? if you don't mind, of course
[20:48] <nekostar> the idea of a netinstall cd is that its so tiny you get all the packages online.
[20:48] <ndotreez> gdm locked me out. i need help.
[20:48] <nekostar> Spherous lets do in chan till X messes up first ;)
[20:49] <almostdvs> !ati
[20:49] <paul68> Hi I thought that openoffice 3 would be standard in 8.10 but I'm still on 2.4
[20:49] <pipegeek> DasEi1: thanks anywayh
[20:49] <pipegeek> anyone else have any experience with networkmanager?
[20:49] <danopia> DasEi1, I am getting 40 kb/s and it'll take 10 minutes to get mysql
[20:49] <BillHarris> Why would nautilus stop running today in Hardy?  Launch it from places or CLI, see  nautilus --no-desktop file:///home/... in ps -ef, but there's no window.
[20:49] <Spherous> nekostar: alright, whats my first step?
[20:49] <nekostar> Flare183 no i was telling Spherous that irssi+screen = no need to reinstall b/c X is messed up for irc
[20:49] <nekostar> Spherous gimme one sec plz
[20:49] <pipegeek> anyone else have any experience with networkmanager?  I can bring up my network connection by hand, but for some reason, it's losing its ip address every five minutes
[20:49] <pipegeek> I have to keep running dhclient
[20:49] <Zeyelth> nekostar: I'd guess that it pulls the stable version, if it makes no distinction from the stable version and the various beta versions. I just wanted to check if my guess was correct.
[20:49] <hspaans> paul68: ooo3 was too late to be included
[20:49] <Nikke> what is the meta package for ubuntu if i want to remove whole ubuntu, i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:49] <Flare183> nekostar: Oh ok
[20:49] <pipegeek> why would this be?
[20:49] <Flare183> sry
[20:49] <Spherous> nekostar: will do~
[20:50] <appzer0> sry if my question is kinda newbie BUT... there are 2 interfaces for my wireless device wlan0 AND wmaster0 why? I cant get a DHCP lease, too bad for my first ubuntu use (sry for my english)
[20:50] <Mixed_--_> !hostname
[20:50] <DasEi1> danopia: use torrent, here : the one with fewest seeds on a 6000 line coming down at 800kbs
[20:50] <redvamp128> anyone- running flash player 10.0.12.36 and is it stable?
[20:50] <dfrey|work> Does kubuntu 8.10 have KDE 3.5 packages as well as KDE 4.1?
[20:50] <paul68> hspaans ok when will this be solved any Idea or do I need to upgrade it from the site?
[20:50] <darren__> Hi can any one help please i downloaded usplash-theme-fingerprint for ubuntu 8.04 and i had no problems but in ubuntu 8.10 it does not show the boot up screen just writing can some one help please if they have time
[20:50] <danopia> DasEi1, for apt packages?
[20:50] <nekostar> ok i got it
[20:50] <jussi01> dfrey|work: please aski in #kubuntu
[20:50] <ransom> are teh repositories really slow today or is it a problem on my end?  i would assume with the big upgrade today they are pretty worked
[20:50] <nekostar> Spherous what kernel are you booted into: `uname -a` please
[20:50] <DasEi1> danopia: oh no, the installer
[20:50] <leohartx> nekostar/ and i cant modify auto eth01 too, each time i restart my pc every defaul setting is back
[20:50] <danopia> ransom, really slow here too
[20:50] <danopia> DasEi1, of COURSE I torrented the installer. You insane?
[20:50] <hspaans> paul68: with 9.04, but ooo3 isn't that interesting
[20:50] <ndotreez> anyone know anything about gdm?
[20:51] <danopia> The mirror was 2 kb/s
[20:51] <Spherous> nekostar: Linux Spherous 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:09:30 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:51] <danopia> The torrent maxed my DSL out
[20:51] <BillHarris> Did you mean me?  It's Linux moenchweiler 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Oct 21 23:43:45 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:51] <dfrey|work> jussi01: I can't join that channel because I am connected through a web gateway
[20:51] <redvamp128> I think some people are downloading the prerelease of 8.10
[20:51] <weboide> the US apt mirror seems to run a little faster now.
[20:51] <devon_> goo evening
[20:51] <nekostar> leohartx yeah - we'll configure the file
[20:51] <danopia> ransom, I am getting abuot 50 kb/s
[20:51] <devon_> I am italian
[20:51] <paul68> hspaans: ok thanks
[20:51] <NicEXE> how can I take a complete backup of my ext3 partition (please don't serve me bootable backup tools)
[20:51] <DasEi1> danopia: maybe, but sure misunderstood you :-D
[20:51] <nekostar> join flood and i'll give you the format
[20:51] <devon_> can I have some help please?
[20:51] <paul68> !help
[20:51] <djhash> NicEXE: do you know dd?
[20:51] <nekostar> Spherous ok good and now try `dpkg -l *2.6.27*
[20:51] <jussi01> !ask | devon_
[20:51] <nekostar> Spherous ok good and now try `dpkg -l *2.6.27*` rather sorry
[20:52] <homy> Hello. I just upgraded to 8.10!!!
[20:52] <Mixed_--_> homy how does it look?
[20:52] <danopia> oh there's a new kernel?
[20:52] <devon_> IS there anybody who want to help me§???????
[20:52] <amews_aj> What is the default wallpaper for ubuntu 8.10 and kubuntu 8.10 ?
[20:52] <Mixed_--_> !help
[20:52] <velko> devon_, you haven't asked anything
[20:52] <Spherous> nekostar: ﻿dpkg -l *2.6.27*
[20:52] <ransom> i've got a question about intrepid: it is supposed to have a new program that rebuilds modules for kernel updates.  does this mean i can update the kernel without killing my third party drivers now?
[20:52] <ndotreez> gdm won't recognize my keyboard after i did an upgrade and i can't login. i need help.
[20:52] <nekostar> Spherous yes
[20:52] <paul68> !patience |devon_
[20:52] <Spherous> nekostar: Oops, set
[20:52] <Spherous> nekostar: sec~
[20:52] <weboide> amews_aj: a nice ibex/goat ; )
[20:52] <DasEi1> !ask|devon_
[20:52] <redvamp128> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[20:52] <homy> Mixed_--_: I like the new theme. And other stuff is also great. The shutdown/logout dialogs are improved a lot, I see.
[20:52] <amews_aj> weboide: link me please?
[20:53] <devon_> CAN I HAVE SOME HELP WITH SAMBA CONFIGURATION?
[20:53] <kansascanuck> guys....I upgraded to 8.10 Intrepid but it won't shut down or reset when I hit the buttons to do those functions.  What can I do to make it work?
[20:53] <Spherous> nekostar: No packages found matching *2.6.27*.  I missed the c when I was copying~
[20:53] <redvamp128> Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10    	 		 			 			 			 			Contents 			 			 				Before You Start 				Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Desktops (Recommended) 				 					Network Upgrade for Kubuntu Desktops (Recommended) 					Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended) 				 				 				Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD 			 			 			 		 	    This document provides instructions and notes on upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10, released on the 30th of October 200
[20:53] <homy> But I have a question anyway; when I login, network manager always displys
[20:53] <paul68> !caps
[20:53] <weboide> amews_aj: hm i don't have a link, i just see my desktop :p
[20:53] <Saibof> hi, how update from cd, somebody know??
[20:53] <Mixed_--_> homy, do you use gnome or kde?
[20:53] <NicEXE> what is "dd"?
[20:53] <homy> "Now Connected" message popup or something like that.
[20:53] <djhash> NicEXE: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2     will copy bit by bit from sda1 to sda2
[20:53] <homy> In 8.04, it didn't show any popups.
[20:53] <amews_aj> weboide: any of these? http://ubuntuarte.com/wordpress/?p=654
[20:53] <ais523> NicEXE: it's used for copying data, it can copy files but more often it's used to copy entire hard disks
[20:53] <BillHarris> $ dpkg -l *2.6.27*
[20:53] <BillHarris> No packages found matching *2.6.27*.
[20:53] <BillHarris>  
[20:53] <homy> Mixed_--_: gnome.
[20:53] <paul68> !enter
[20:54] <chadeldridge> If i run each monitor as a separate x session is it possible to run metacity on one and compiz on the other??
[20:54] <devon_> but if but well
[20:54] <devon_> so nobody can help me
[20:54] <Flare183> !paste | redvamp128
[20:54] <weboide> amews_aj: nope, let me see if i can find it for you
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> BillHarris: dpkg -l | grep -i linux
[20:54] <ThePandemic82> Hey guys.  Ive been using OSS for sound since 8.04.  Im using OSS because I have a creative X-FI sound card.  Today, I upgraded to 8.10 and whenever I watch an .AVI file..I get a consistent crackling sound.  What can I do to resolve this??
[20:54] <paul68> !patience |devon_
[20:54] <devon_> i tought this was a place where i could find help
[20:54] <dfrey|work> Does Kubuntu 8.10 have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 packages?  As I mentioned previously, I can't join #kubuntu to ask my question because I am connected via a web gateway.
[20:54] <jussi01> devon_: you need to tell us your question!
[20:54] <compton> djhash, does that copy absolutely everything, leaving them idential?
[20:54] <amews_aj> weboide: I just want to make my own cd label :)
[20:54] <redvamp128> That was probably why-- the update site is slow
[20:54] <devon_> samba
[20:54] <djhash> compton: yes
[20:54] <Spherous> dfrey|work: ask in #kubuntu please
[20:54] <danopia> YAY
[20:54] <jussi01> dfrey|work: only 4.1
[20:54] <devon_> my problem is
[20:54] <devon_> samba
[20:54] <danopia> apt is speeding up
[20:54] <Mixed_--_> !ask | devon_
[20:54] <devon_> i have configured it
[20:54] <danopia> It's about 100 kb/s now
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> !samba | devon
[20:55] <dfrey|work> spherous: are you illiterate?  Did you see what I just wrote?
[20:55] <NicEXE> is there a way to backup my ext3 partition in only 1 file?
[20:55] <markw_> bah, upgraded to 8.10 and 2.6.27 kernel pukes trying to find the logical volume which "disappeared",  2.6.24 still boots.
[20:55] <homy> So I have a problem with the new ubuntu 8.10.
[20:55] <nekostar> ok back
[20:55] <evan_> hey who knows where to get the panel background added to the live cd?
[20:55] <mker> Found a bug! Anyone with a GPG key in Seahorse feel like trying it out? Go to Properties -> Names and Signatures -> Add name. Now add a name that's like an email adress, name@example.org it freezes.
[20:55] <devon_> so, i see my desktop pc in the same workgroup, and ok,but when i click on the desktop pc icon
[20:55] <DasEi1> !samba|devon_
[20:55] <nekostar> Spherous ok so the upgrade didnt fully go!
[20:55] <devon_> i dont see its shares
[20:55] <jussi01> dfrey|work: no need for the attitude thanks :)
[20:55] <homy> When I log in, Network Manager always displays a message like "Network now connected".
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: create an iso of it
[20:55] <ndotreez> anyone know why gdm won't recognize the keyboard to let you login?
[20:55] <Spherous> nekostar: O.o, so, how do I fix that?
[20:55] <djhash> compton: NicEXE: ofcourse make sure the destination is atleast the same size as the source
[20:55] <hspaans> mker: fix you keyservers
[20:55] <homy> I don't want that popup every time I log in!
[20:55] <devon_> ubottu i have already red a lot of guides
[20:55] <nekostar> Spherous check in /etc/apt/sources.list see if it says hardy or intrepid please
[20:55] <homy> I shouldn't have to click "close" after every login!
[20:56] <kansascanuck> Anyone get the shutdown or reset buttons to work in 8.10?
[20:56] <BillHarris> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/64788/
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> devon_: what do you need to know about samba?
[20:56] <nekostar> devon_ gimme second
[20:56] <dfrey|work> jussi01:  Can you actually answer my question?
[20:56] <nekostar> i'll get you the samba guide that actually works
[20:56] <homy> Can anybody help me with ubuntu 8.10?
[20:56] <jussi01> dfrey|work: I already did...
[20:56] <devon_> if you want i can send you my smb.conf
[20:56] <devon_> so you can tell me what i mistake
[20:56] <djhash> !anyone | homy
[20:56] <weboide> amews_aj: ok, the filename is warty-final-ubuntu.png
[20:56] <dekkong> nekostar: what kind of help do u need?
[20:56] <devon_> because it is very strange
[20:56] <Mixed_--_> devon, type "join #samba"
[20:56] <dfrey|work> jussi01:  Your response was "ask in #kubuntu"  which I can't do right now.
[20:56] <Mixed_--_> devon, type "/join #samba"
[20:56] <nekostar> dekkong i dont :D
[20:56] <devon_> that  i can see my desktop pc, but i cannot see inside it
[20:56] <dekkong> nekostar: ok :D
[20:56] <Poru69> list
[20:56] <nekostar> :D
[20:56] <devon_> ok
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> devon_: put my name at the start of lines
[20:57] <Spherous> nekostar: hardy
[20:57] <jussi01> dfrey|work: [22:54:46] <jussi01> dfrey|work: only 4.1
[20:57] <nekostar> Spherous ok ok
[20:57] <mker> hspaans: what do you mean? I don't publish my key.
[20:57] <nekostar> so the update didnt actually go at all
[20:57] <nekostar> :>
[20:57] <djhash> !who | devon_
[20:57] <Spherous> nekostar: well, both actually
[20:57]  * danopia wonders how easy it is to host an apt server
[20:57] <evan_> hey who knows where to get the panel background added to the live cd?
[20:57] <nekostar> run it again
[20:57] <weboide> amews_aj: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stadia/2945977001/
[20:57] <ndotreez> gdm won't let me login. i need help please.
[20:57] <homy> In intrepid, nm-applet always shows a dialog on login saying something like "Now connected". In hardy this was NOT the case. How do I make the dialog not appear?
[20:57] <nekostar> what happens on a sudo apt-get dist-ugprade
[20:57] <amews_aj> thx
[20:57] <hspaans> mker: no but you'r searching
[20:57]  * homy wonders with danopia
[20:57] <nekostar> ndotreez can you log in a console?
[20:57] <jussi01> !info apt-proxy | danopia
[20:57] <devon_> ActionParsnip ok
[20:57] <nekostar> ctrl+alt+f1-6
[20:57] <dfrey|work> jussi01:  I must have missed that.  Sorry.
[20:57] <matehortua> hi everyone, im  having a very strange problem, a tty is blocking exactly tty2, it bloqued during a ping
[20:58] <hamza> hi , i have a problem with video play in my ubuntu install , it comes with blueline at the top , then the screen becomes blank and the system stuck
[20:58]  * homy wonders if others are also annoyed by the network manager popup information on every login in interpid
[20:58] <nekostar> leohartx you better now?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> devon_: better, ok whats up with your smb.conf?
[20:58] <Spherous> nekostar: Heres a pastebin~ http://pastebin.com/m550e26bb
[20:58] <mker> hspaans: How am I searching. I'm just trying to add another name.
[20:58] <ndotreez> nekostar: yes, i can login with a console, but the gdm login screen doesn't recognize my keyboard or mouse.
[20:58] <devon_> ActionParsnip i have configured it but
[20:58] <homy> Please... Anyone....
[20:58] <kansascanuck> is there a fix to the shut down and restart buttons in Intrepid?
[20:58] <danopia> Yay.
[20:59] <nekostar> ndotreez ah. i'm not good with y a kb/mouse isnt recognized, however you can try a `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' if no one else has any ideas for you
[20:59] <devon_> ActionParsnip i when i see the desktop pc icon on the net panel, and i click it, i dont see the desktop pc shared folders
[20:59] <danopia> Apt finsihed donwladoing
[20:59] <nekostar> oic Spherous
[20:59] <atagar> Kinda dumb question but I'm having an issue with apt-get (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com won't respond) - I take it as if this is being caused by the Intrepid release?
[20:59] <MothOnLovesFlame> i need to make a resume. will the formatting transfer from open office to google documents?
[20:59] <lbci> homy: it goes away when you start working
[20:59] <devon_> ActionParsnip but if i connet to a singular folder, i see it
[20:59] <danopia> atagar, ye ait's very slow today
[20:59] <Spherous> nekostar: yeah, it says hardy at the top, but all the debs say interpid
[20:59] <nekostar> ya
[20:59] <devon_> ActionParsnip this is strange
[20:59] <atagar> thx
[20:59] <homy> lbci: but it the dialog shouldn't be there in the first place!
[20:59] <ndotreez> nekostar: thank you, that's a start. i appreciate the assistance.
[20:59] <danopia> atagar, patince, 40 kb/s sitll works :P
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> devon_: did you add allowed users to the share and sudo smbpasswd <your username>
[21:00] <BillHarris> ActionParsnip should have said http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/64788/ (same URI)
[21:00] <Spherous> nekostar: I'm guessing that the hardy doesn't matter because its in a comment~
[21:00] <weboide> atagar: i was downloading at 140kb/s just a minute ago, i downloaded about 40 packages
[21:00] <cuznt> i am having resolution probs
[21:00] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64753/ those are my sources Spherous
[21:00] <devon_> ActionParsnip if you want i can send you my smb.conf
[21:00] <devon_> ActionParsnip ok?
[21:00] <homy> I only want to be notified if something is wrong, i.e. no network connection, or if there is only another wlan network as the normal one available...
[21:00] <lbci> homy: well put in a feature request, if enough people agree it prolly will be put in
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> BillHarris: i was just getting how you can show your installed kernels
[21:00] <DrX> anyone know if you can rollback a chmod permission change OR reset OS directory permissions to the defaults?
[21:00] <_lord_x__> anyone knows which version of bacula will be included in intrepid? they try to relese version 3.0 at the end the year... not long though
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> devon_: sure, pastebin it
[21:00] <nekostar> Spherous all that matters  is where the deb and deb-src are. i clean mine up so its easy to read though lol. ok so `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[21:00] <nekostar> then let it take out what it wants ok?
[21:00] <nekostar> but before that
[21:00] <devon_> ActionParsnip i must past it here??
[21:00] <nekostar> make sure irssi and screen are installed
[21:01] <kansascanuck> Is there a for the shutdown and restart buttons in 8.10 Intrepid?
[21:01] <homy> lbci: network manager should only display a dialog if something is wrong or "unusual" (i.e. other wlan network). But when everything is normal, it should not display anything.
[21:01] <nekostar> open terminal type `screen -q` and in that run irssi and /server irc.freenode.net
[21:01] <guy_with_no_shoe> i need to make a resume. will the formatting transfer from open office to google documents?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> devon_: no as it will scroll the screen and be useless
[21:01] <nekostar> then of course join here
[21:01] <nekostar> so if X dies thats fine "D
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !paste | devon_
[21:01] <Spherous> nekostar: Okay, its going~
[21:01] <homy> lbci: how do I do that, feature request????
[21:01] <jussi01> kansascanuck: they are now under the fast user switcher
[21:01] <azb_zz> can i upgrade from feisty fawn to 8.10
[21:01] <djhash> If i run terminal in desktop.. can I run an application and make it go to any one of the other ttys (1-6).. lets say for simplicity the program doesnt need an Xsession, and only text based..
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> devon_: i dont accept files
[21:02] <nekostar> kansascanuck you mean on the thing that pops up when you push quit or whatnot?
[21:02] <devon_> ah ok
[21:02] <azb_zz>  can i upgrade from feisty fawn to 8.10
[21:02] <kansascanuck> jussi01:  My system doesn't shut down when I use the fast switcher or if I go to system.
[21:02] <cuznt> !nvivida
[21:02] <odder> !nvidia
[21:02] <homy> !nvidia
[21:02] <Milos_SD> How can I fix no AA fonts in gnome-terminal?
[21:02] <devon_> ActionParsnip please tell me what i have to do because i have not understood very well
[21:02] <MothOnLovesFlame> i need to make a resume. will the formatting transfer from open office to google documents?
[21:02] <cuznt> the last time i did that it made it worse
[21:02] <nohup> wow there's alot of people here :)
[21:02] <azb_zz>  can i upgrade from feisty fawn to 8.10
[21:02] <nekostar> Spherous also - in general i would accept new config files
[21:03] <azb_zz>  can i upgrade from feisty fawn to 8.10
[21:03] <guntbert> !repeat azb_zz
[21:03] <nekostar> usually it's not too hard to recustomize something and occationally lack of doing so can leave bad things in lol
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> devon_: copy the smb.conf file as text, go to the pastebin and paste the text and click paste then copy the new web address in the address bar and paste here
[21:03] <guntbert> !repeat | azb_zz
[21:03] <nekostar> azb_zz you have to upgrade to 8.04 first
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> !paste | devon_
[21:03] <nohup> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my acer aspire one... hoping it would fix the non-working wireless interface, but no lock... is there a work-around for this ?
[21:03] <nekostar> guntbert dont be petty plz
[21:03] <djhash> devon_: to make using pastebin easy for you.. do this.. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then after.. "command >file.txt", then "pastebinit <file.txt".. then you'll get a url, and paste that url here..
[21:03] <nekostar> guntbert dont be petty plz ~_~
[21:03] <Spherous> nekostar: What do you mean?
[21:03] <nekostar> Spherous youll know if you see it
[21:04] <nekostar> if you dont dont worry about it ;)
[21:04] <DasEi1>  azb_zz:i would recommend a fresh install
[21:04] <WOWSERS> azb_zz, you have to do it 1 6 month step at a time
[21:04] <nikolajsheller1> Hello. I've just tried til install Intrepid on my macbook. Unfortunately it does not boot. The Apple BIOS does not seem to recognize the Intrepid partition as bootable. Does anybody have experience installing on MacBooks?
[21:04] <plavcik> I need to tune x.org configuration, after upgrade to 8.10, display is bad like wrong color setting, which app I can use?
[21:04] <leohartx> nekostar/ what is your mean when you change lo --> eth5 ?
[21:04] <devon_> ah ok ok
[21:04] <Spherous> nekostar: This is going to take a longgggg time, only at 1%
[21:04] <devon_> ActionParsnipnow i try give me some seconds
[21:04] <nohup> this channel is too crowded :) i'll come back another time
[21:04] <azb_zz> ok, thanks to all
[21:04] <MothOnLovesFlame> i need to make a resume. will the formatting transfer from open office to google documents?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> devon_: basically it hosts the text for a few days and allows you to paste a shedload of text to one single line
[21:05] <djhash> plavcik: did you tryp "sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[21:05] <djhash> try*
[21:05] <musictoto> nikolajsheller1: did you create a partition for ubuntu with bootcamp ?
[21:05] <leohartx> nekostar/ i restarted but it got error
[21:05] <nekostar> Spherous it can ;)
[21:05] <nikolajsheller1> musictoto: No. did an in stall on a clean disc
[21:05] <musictoto> nikolajsheller1: or did you overwrite your entire harddisk
[21:05] <nekostar> leohartx good what's the error: `dmesg |grep eth`
[21:05] <nekostar> pastebin that plz
[21:05] <nekostar> oh oh
[21:05] <nikolajsheller1> musictoto: th ewhole disk
[21:05] <nekostar> leohartx i see.
[21:05] <Plz> Let`s all use plz....
[21:05] <Plz> plz plz plz..
[21:05] <Spherous> nekostar: Alright, well I have an hour and 30 minutes until I have to leave for class, so I hope we can sort it out before then~
[21:06] <Plz> and highlight my nick.
[21:06] <nekostar> on my system ive been through a lot of motherboards and few other things
[21:06] <Plz> :D
[21:06] <plavcik> djhash: thx for that command, going to try it
[21:06] <nekostar> so my eth0 drifed to eth5
[21:06] <nikolajsheller1> musictoto: it har run well with hardy
[21:06] <pr0fane> can i burn a cd iso of 8.10 to a DVD?
[21:06] <musictoto> nikolajsheller1: oh.. i never did it on the whole disk
[21:06] <nekostar> i was just saying change eth5 to eth0 auto stays auto how i put it ^^
[21:06] <leohartx> nekostar what is your mean when you change lo to eth5 ?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> pr0fane: no, you need the dvd iso
[21:06] <nekostar> Spherous hopefully lol
[21:06] <pr0fane> dvd iso isnt out yet,right?
[21:06] <nekostar> Spherous if not i'm around a lot
[21:06] <devon_> ActionParsnip ok i have installed it
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> devon_: sweet
[21:06] <djhash> pr0fane: yup..
[21:06] <nekostar> just nick higlight me and you can pm later if you need
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> devon_: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:07] <devon_> ActionParsnip now i try to get the url
[21:07] <nekostar> leohartx i meant to say change eth0 to eth5 lo stays lo
[21:07] <Spherous> nekostar: alright. I'll keep that in mind
[21:07] <nekostar> thats your local loop
[21:07] <pr0fane> any idea when the dvd version will come?
[21:07] <nikolajsheller1> musictoto: Hardy didn't have any problems booting from a clean disk...
[21:07] <danopia> I made the mistake of using apt to get phpmyadmin :(
[21:07] <paul__> pr0fane: i am right now using 8.10 and i burnt it in a DVD works fine
[21:07] <Wicked> !mythtv
[21:07] <leohartx> what does that file interface do with my setting ?
[21:07] <Wicked> !version mythtv
[21:07] <nikolajsheller1> musictoto: thanks anyways. Must have something to do with EFI....
[21:07] <djhash> danopia: i always get phpmyadmin from apt-get
[21:07] <musictoto> nikolajsheller1: sorry :)
[21:07] <Wicked> whats the way to query what version is in what release?
[21:07] <danopia> djhash, apt is dead today
[21:07] <Wicked> !help
[21:07] <pr0fane> paul, for real?
[21:08] <jarco> hello. I am just trying the new 8.10. i see brasero disk burner. Is it comparable to k3b or is k3b still the most feature full program?
[21:08] <scientes> dang i started the download last night and thiout it would be done
[21:08] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64798/
[21:08] <danopia> djhash, before it was 40 kb/s getting mysql and now it won't even *connect* to get phpmyadmin
[21:08] <scientes> but i guess my connection sucks
[21:08] <DrX> anyone know how to rollback file permissions changes made w/ chmod OR how to reset OS directory permissions to the defaults?
[21:08] <nekostar> there you go leohartx thats the whole thing with eth0 where it should be
[21:08] <danopia> How many apt servers are there anyway
[21:08] <lbci> jarco: i prefer gnome-baker... but both fall shy of k3b
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> jarco: if you use kde i personally recommend k3b
[21:08] <epifanio> hi guys .. i need an help ... i've compiled from source an application that require some dependancies (the dependencies too are compiled from source)
[21:08] <todkon> is it okay to delete all the old kernels from my installed files?
[21:09] <_lord_x__> DrX grab a backup you made and restore them
[21:09] <Asara> Hi, i just installed 8.10 and restarted my laptop, now my graphics configs don't work, when i start up it tells me to reconfigure or to use my old settings, but the old settings don't help either
[21:09] <_lord_x__> ;)
[21:09] <devon_> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/f168ad3a
[21:09] <epifanio> ... how can i create a .deb of these application ?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> devon_: good work, let me read
[21:09] <DrX> _lord_x__: the backup didn't work... already tried that
[21:09] <ay^> Where can sources for apt be, if not in sources.list?
[21:09] <Asara> how can i get graphics to work properly...i'm now on the "low graphics" option in ubuntu
[21:09] <danopia> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[21:09] <lbci> todkon: i usually leave the current and the previous kernel for safety
[21:09] <danopia> Yay progress
[21:09] <_lord_x__> epifanio: www.getdeb.net
[21:09] <DrX> _lord_x__: any other way?
[21:09] <pr0fane> so can i record 8.10 cd iso to a DVD?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> devon_: ok i dont see anything remarkable
[21:09] <todkon> lbci, good thinking, thanks a lot
[21:09] <devon_> ActionParsnip i am sorry if i am a little slow but i am been using ubuntu for 2 days
[21:09] <_lord_x__> DrX, i dont know any
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> devon_: you'll learn
[21:10] <devon_> ActionParsnip i hope it
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> devon_: you arent shring anything
[21:10]  * nekostar pokes leohartx 
[21:10] <Bsims> I'd upgrade but I don't want to lose kde 3.5
[21:10] <jarco> ok i keep to k3b then
[21:10] <devon_> ActionParsnip sorry what means shring?
[21:10] <djhash_> did we just have a split?!
[21:10] <Bsims> that and no k3b for kde 7
[21:10] <_lord_x__> DrX whats your problem?
[21:10] <Bsims> er 4
[21:11] <scientes> should have just downloaded the basic cd instead of the dvd so it would be donw
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> devon_: sharing*
[21:11] <pr0fane> can i burn 8.10 cd iso to DVd?
[21:11] <wilhelmb> do you think i could earn much speed if i choose 64 bit instead of 32? have a core 2 duo (i guess its 64bit)  and is there any reason why i should not choose 64bit?
[21:11] <devon_> ah ok
[21:11] <Asara> nobody know how to get graphics to work proper with ubuntu 8.10? running on a laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[21:11] <scientes> pr0fane, yes
[21:11] <Mixed_--_> !hashish
[21:11] <grendal_prime> is there a channel about video encoding im going crazy trying to find a video/audio transcoding concoction that will work with windows media_player9 and be somewhat legable.
[21:11] <MetalHeadDead> If I upgrade to 8.10 will I lose my files and any functionality?
[21:11] <hspaans> jacro: brasero is pretty good now a days
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> devon_: check pm
[21:11] <Mixed_--_> !forum
[21:11] <devon_> ActionParsnip  but i have shared a folder
[21:11] <pr0fane> thc,scientes
[21:11] <djhash> MetalHeadDead: no...
[21:11] <pr0fane> thx*
[21:11] <wilhelmb> do you think i could earn much speed if i choose 64 bit instead of 32? have a core 2 duo (i guess its 64bit)  and is there any reason why i should not choose 64bit?
[21:11] <devon_> ActionParsnipfrom my desktop pc i see it and i open it
[21:11] <epifanio> _lord_x__: these is a list of application .. what i need is to creatre a .deb :-/
[21:11] <Mixed_--_> smbclient -L 192.168.1.25
[21:11] <MetalHeadDead> djhash: thanks, i'm trying to upgrade but it's going so slow
[21:12] <grendal_prime> I keep getting really nice video, no sound
[21:12] <djhash> MetalHeadDead: files in your home folder will not be touched
[21:12] <kansascanuck> I can't use the shut down or start buttons in Intrepid without the system freezing.  Is there a fix for this?
[21:12] <devon_> ActionParsnipbut i cannot do the opposit thing
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> devon_: check pm, easier to read
[21:12] <djhash> MetalHeadDead: but i'm not 100% sure if ALL settings will be remembered..
[21:12] <_lord_x__> epifanio, so try launchpad for getdeb and request your .deb they will make one.. in the right way its meant to make in ubuntu/debian
[21:12] <devon_> ActionParsnip what is pm?
[21:12] <wilhelmb> do you think i could earn much speed if i choose 64 bit instead of 32? have a core 2 duo (i guess its 64bit)  and is there any reason why i should not choose 64bit?
[21:12] <Spherous> nekostar: Eh, ETA 6 hours 42m
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> devon_: private message
[21:12] <Mixed_--_> smbmount \\192.168.1.25\\myshare /mnt/sambashare -o username=Mixed
[21:12] <DasEi1> !pm|devon_
[21:13] <Dextorion> wilhelmb: i picked 32 bit...
[21:13] <Bsims> wilhelmb: drivers for the most part
[21:13] <MetalHeadDead> djhash: i'm not really worried about settings, I just dont want to lose the programs I have, cause it took a lot of confusion to figure out how to get them in the first place i.e. OOO 3.0
[21:13] <djGentoo> I think you can guess why I'm here.
[21:13] <DasEi1> devon_: sry for the bot , pm = personal message
[21:13] <_lord_x__> epifanio or join #getdeb, they will tell you
[21:13] <Spherous> nekostar: shitty AT&T not offering anything better than 50kb/s where I live, and Verizon doesn't offer anything, nor comcast -.-"
[21:13] <wilhelmb> oki, thanx
[21:13] <epifanio> ok :-)
[21:13] <nekostar> sux Spherous
[21:13] <lbci> wilhelmb: also plugins for media still are not fully up on 64
[21:13] <nekostar> Spherous then i should ask one other question:
[21:13] <djGentoo> Has anyone here had issues upgrading to 8.10?
[21:13] <djhash> MetalHeadDead: I'm not 100% sure.. maybe someone more experienced will be able to answer.. ActionParsnip?
[21:14] <Mixed_--_> devon, you should've went to the "#samba" channel, someone already helped me with the question I had on samba and he even gave me his e-mail address so I can send him an e-mail if I had any more questions
[21:14] <kansascanuck> djGentoo:  Yes.
[21:14] <nekostar> is your /home on a seperate partition: check: df -h|grep home
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> djhash: sup?
[21:14] <Dextorion> wilhelmb: i guess there shouldnt be much software that doesnt work on 64 now days... but, i dont think you'll gain to much speed just by choosing 64 bit.
[21:14] <djGentoo> Is it as bad as 6.10 was?
[21:14] <Bsims> MetalHeadDead: it keeps most everything you had when you upgrade
[21:14] <blame> no envy in 8.10?
[21:14] <danopia> k so
[21:14] <djhash> ActionParsnip: installed programs will not be affected by the upgrade.. true?
[21:14] <_lord_x__> .10 doesnt  men bad ^^ ;)
[21:14] <MetalHeadDead> Bsims: thanks, that was my only concern
[21:14] <danopia> phpmyadmin + IPv6 == fail
[21:14]  * MetalHeadDead is off to upgrade
[21:14] <DasEi1> djGentoo: my last try(beta) : busybox, no good graphics
[21:14] <_lord_x__> blame: envy sux i heard.
[21:14] <djGentoo> Ugh.
[21:14] <kansascanuck> djGentoo:  I don't know about that I only started using in March with 8.04
[21:14] <Spherous> nekostar: gvfs-fuse-daemon      285G   36G  235G  14% /home/susa/.gvfs      So, thats a no~
[21:14]  * Bsims winces I did note that kde 4 is now default so I've not upgraded 
[21:15] <Bsims> I need k3b
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> djhash: if the one on the repo is newer it will be upgraded]
[21:15] <djGentoo> 6.10 was pretty bad in terms of upgrading.
[21:15] <djGentoo> It was all over /.
[21:15] <kansascanuck> Does anyone know why the Shutdown and Restart buttons don't work in 8.10?
[21:15] <wilhelmb> Dextorion: Ok, i think i will stick to 32bit, until i upgrade to 4-8 gigs of ram
[21:15] <Dextorion> wilhelmb: i've heard there were problems running skype on 64 bit.. for an example.
[21:15] <Myrtti> please, keep the discussion to support issues, please
[21:15] <djhash> ActionParsnip: sweet.. thanks
[21:15] <DasEi1> kansascanuck:mine worked
[21:15] <tofuwurst> odd problem here. try to mount my winxp partition. gparted and fdisk -l lists it as /dev/sda2, but in /dev there is only sda, no sda1 or sda2...
[21:15] <MetalHeadDead> lots of people must be doing this now, because it is saying "downloading upgrade tool" and it's just frozen
[21:15] <Asara> can someone please help me or point me in the right direction, i don't have any clue how to get 8.10 out of the low graphics setting, using an older kernel didn't help either
[21:15] <Opr8iVe> ...still somewhat new to this, dont quite know what to expect, but are the us ubuntu intrepid repos slow right now?
[21:15] <djhash> hehe.. update is fluctuating between 44minutes and 4 hours..lol
[21:15] <Dextorion> wilhelmb: yeah exactly. that too.  Then you actually have a bigger reason to run 64 bit.
[21:16] <K_Dallas> Hi guys!  Is Openoffice3 supported in 8.10 ? Thanks
[21:16] <djGentoo> MetalHeadDead: Thanks. I guess I'll hold off on upgrading...
[21:16] <kansascanuck> DasEi1:  DId you download today?
[21:16] <lbci> kansascanuck: permission may be off, can you you sudo reboot in terminal?
[21:16] <DasEi1>  tofuwurst:may I pm you
[21:16] <ais523> Opr8iVe: nearly all the repos are likely to be slow at the moment, a new version just released
[21:16] <mavsman4457> Hi I'm running Hardy Heron and I think there's a problem with my sources or something cause it always shows the light bulb on the bar up top and says that I need to update my sources list or something like that
[21:16] <wilhelmb> Dextorion: yeah. thx for your help
[21:16] <lifestream> Anyone got globalmenu applet working in intrepid?
[21:16] <kansascanuck> Ibci:  I haven't tried that.  How do I turn the permissions on?
[21:16] <hspaans> K_Dallas: no it isn't
[21:16] <davetarmac> anyone else having Amarok trouble since upgrading to 8.10?
[21:16] <tofuwurst> DasEi1: yap
[21:16] <DasEi1> kansascanuck:no, farmer beta (about 4 weeks)
[21:16] <djhash> Asara: what graphics card do you have?
[21:16] <Opr8iVe> Yeah.. Okay.. Just changed my gateway, wanted to make sure the slowdown wasnt on my end
[21:16] <kansascanuck> DasEi1:
[21:16] <MetalHeadDead> i really like the new encryption file in 8.10, thats a big draw for me, and it is supposed to have even more security
[21:16] <K_Dallas> hspaans, and I wouldnt be able to install it ?
[21:16] <Dextorion> wilhelmb: You'r welcome, for whatever help i was..
[21:17] <nikolajsheller1> Does anyone have experience with EFI on Apples and booting linux?
[21:17] <kansascanuck> DasEi1:  I downloaded that release candidate this week and I am having this issue.
[21:17] <nekostar> Spherous ok next time you install, you need to do manual partitioning, and make /home it's own partition. i was going to suggest downloading the iso and going from there, but this is kinda how it HAS to work.
[21:17] <Asara> djhash: a ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[21:17] <hspaans> K_Dallas: if 2.4 is working for you then stick to it
[21:17] <djhash> !anyone | nikolajsheller1
[21:17] <nekostar> there is another way to ensure this will go perfectly but your not going to like it
[21:17] <djGentoo> File encryption?
[21:17] <djhash> Asara: did you try getting the drivers from Ati?
[21:17] <groogy> Yo! I'm playing around with the effects for windows in compiz and saw the explode effect and thought that would be perfect for a program that crashes. Anyone got any ideas on how to get Compiz to add that effect to a window whose program crashes?
[21:17] <nekostar> open synaptic and it will take a while but go and select every installed package
[21:17] <lbci> kansascanuck: system->administration->authorizations... after my friends upgrade he was disabled from admin stuff somehow
[21:17] <Spherous> nekostar: O.o whys that?
[21:17] <nekostar> [you can organize by installed]
[21:18] <nekostar> then select all for removal
[21:18] <Asara> djhash: hmm, not yet...can i apt-get them?
[21:18] <nekostar> this will take an hour maybe
[21:18] <kansascanuck> Ibci:  What do I change once I get there?
[21:18] <djhash> Asara: no.. you need to get it from Ati's website..
[21:18] <nekostar> you have to keep clicking this popup about how your breaking the system
[21:18] <djGentoo> Well... Nothing on Slashdot yet, so it can't be horrible...
[21:18] <raevol> are the intrepid repositories down?
[21:18] <nekostar> then when your scheduled everything EVERYTHING to uninstall, select ubuntu-desktop to install.
[21:18] <djhash> Asara: or you can try !EnvyNG
[21:18] <K_Dallas> hspaans, or maybe I install OOo3-win using crossover ;) I hoped that 8.10 would support OOo3
[21:18] <joaopinto> isn't  ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 an old card ?
[21:18] <Spherous> nekostar: Since I'm on a network, wouldn't it make more since to back up all my important files (Pics, vids,ect) and just reformat then?
[21:18] <nekostar> it will cascade down and keep everything you need and nothing that was not originally default.
[21:18] <Asara> djhash: ok, is there any reason they aren't included in 8.10? because 8.04 worked just fine for me
[21:18] <nekostar> oh yes it would Spherous
[21:18] <TheCrusher> Hellooo :)
[21:19] <DasEi1> !paste|tofuwurst
[21:19] <TheCrusher> Litte problem with VGA-out if anyone bother to help :)
[21:19] <cdm10> The distribution upgrader just shut down with the message "could not get exclusive lock" (I didn't have any other managers running) and now the system's sources are set to Hardy but it hasn't been upgraded yet... this seems like an unpleasant bug (it didn't reset the sources after the upgrade failed)
[21:19] <DasEi1> !paste>tofuwurst
[21:19] <Spherous> nekostar: So shall I just stop the thing you had me run and do that?
[21:19] <nekostar> i recommend partitioning as follows: 10G for root // 2x ram - swap and // rest is home
[21:19] <djGentoo> TuxMachines has mainly good feedback...
[21:19] <nekostar> Spherous yeah
[21:19] <joaopinto> djhash, why are you suggesting envy or ati, isn't this card supported by the ati restricted driver from the repositories ?
[21:19] <nekostar> and instead download the latest iso, and itl be there when you get back from school
[21:19] <Spherous> nekostar: Lol alright.
[21:19] <nekostar> etc
[21:19] <nekostar> clean is super easier trust me ;d
[21:19] <Dextorion> TheCrusher: Just ask away..
[21:19] <jin> how do I upgrade form rc1 to 8.10?
[21:19] <djhash> Asara: i belive the new Xorg is very different from 8.04.. one thing to note is that they dropped legacy support.. but ur card is newer than legacy.
[21:20] <almostdvs> Installed ati drivers and it broke the system, reinstalled and haven't tried drivers again out of fear, card is ati radeon x700.
[21:20] <joaopinto> jin, just check your updates on the updated manager, that will get you into final
[21:20] <TheCrusher> Uhm, having a nvidia geforce go 7600-card not wanting to send a signal to a monitor here
[21:20] <hspaans> K_Dallas: there are some packages for Ubuntu, but expect issues. and there is no real point to switch to 3.0 now
[21:20] <TheCrusher> NvTv Out didn't work
[21:20] <thomc> I'm having trouble displaying at my monitor's native resolution (1680x1050). I'm using the new g45 chipset. Any ideas?
[21:20] <djhash> Asara: joaopinto: first try the restricted drivers from repos.. if that doesnt work.. try EnvyNG
[21:20] <Spherous> nekostar: Yeah, so, how do I put just /home on a seperate partition? and what do I do when everything installs by default to /home o.o
[21:20] <nekostar> Spherous tho for the record.
[21:20] <joaopinto> Asara, have you enabled the restricted ati driver from the hardware drivers menu ?
[21:20] <nekostar> i could have done it
[21:20] <K_Dallas> hspaans, I wouldnt go there. I think I go back and install office2003 as it works pretty fast under crossover
[21:21] <Spherous> nekostar: I know how to partition and all, but Idk how to do just /home
[21:21] <nekostar> Spherous in partitioning do custom and remember double size of your ram for swap, 10-15GB for root and rest for home
[21:21] <Asara> djhash: i'm on the ATI site now, but it only lists Xorg support till ver 7.3, isn't 8.10 using xorg 7.4?
[21:21] <nekostar> Spherous er... deleting other partitions?
[21:21] <joaopinto> djhash, you should not advice to use envy and not the drivers from the ATI site for a card which is expected to be supported by the current repos drivers
[21:21] <hspaans> K_Dallas: 3.0 is as fast as 2.4
[21:21] <BillHarris> ActionParsnip Looks like it got busy here; I've got to go ... I may try again when it's not so busy...thx
[21:21] <_lord_x__> Spherous: add another partition, copystuff over, del old home mount new partition to /home
[21:21] <Spherous> so 8g for swap, 15gb for root and 300~ for home?
[21:21] <_lord_x__> done
[21:22] <_lord_x__> 8g swap?
[21:22] <TheCrusher> Did that make you any smarter?
[21:22] <Spherous> nekostar: Yeah, I figured why even mess with the copying, why not just give it a whole wipe?
[21:22] <_lord_x__> how much ram you have?
[21:22] <joaopinto> Asara, System -> Admin -> HW drivers
[21:22] <nekostar> Spherous copy files and folders off
[21:22] <Asara> joaopinto: there's no drivers listed there
[21:22] <Spherous> nekostar: Of course
[21:22] <nekostar> like .xchat2 .gaim .purple .mozilla
[21:22] <musictoto> !who > _lord_x__
[21:22] <nekostar> oh yeah then wipe and format
[21:22] <niek> Hi, I just upgraded to teh new ubuntu, but my window borders are gone ... is there anyone who could help me with this problem .. ?
[21:22] <nekostar> i actually recommend if your hdd is large enough:
[21:23] <_lord_x__> spherous cp -ax is a good choice
[21:23] <nekostar> 10GB 10GB doubleram rest
[21:23] <naxa> hi! i accidentally pressed super+R and now i am in some kind of zoom mode!!! How can i Exit? ???
[21:23] <HedgeMage> niek: what wm do you use?
[21:23] <nekostar> which lets you run two full distros and share home partition and share swap
[21:23] <HedgeMage> niek: (if you don't know, it's probably gnome)
[21:23] <nekostar> naxa
[21:23] <niek> gnome
[21:23] <nekostar> just hold super and scroll down
[21:23] <noctiphile> Hi.  I have a problem with OpenOffice Calc.  The current directory is always prepended to the Web URL when using Open dialog.
[21:23] <Asara> i just installed envyng, i'll ctrl-alt-backspace and see if that worked. brb
[21:23] <HedgeMage> niek: have you tried changing wm themes and then changing back?
[21:24] <Spherous> nekostar: wait, 10gb 10gb <--- what are those for? doubleram is for swap, and rest is /home
[21:24] <niek> not yet
[21:24] <almostdvs> Installed ati drivers and it broke the system, reinstalled and haven't tried drivers again out of fear, card is ati radeon x700.
[21:24] <nekostar> Spherous i quad boot
[21:24] <nekostar> thats a dual boot setup for partitioning
[21:24] <_lord_x__> sorry guys... not my day today... from now on nick: bla :D
[21:24] <MetalHeadDead> upgrade tool still frozen.......
[21:24] <naxa> nekostar, it doesn't work... is there no other way?
[21:24] <MetalHeadDead> may have to wait a few days
[21:24] <nekostar> say next time around, you could install intrepid in its own partition
[21:24] <HedgeMage> niek: It's possible the theme you were using had a change that requires it to be reloaded.
[21:24] <Spherous> nekostar: No need for me to dual boot o.o
[21:24] <nekostar> naxa super is like windows key and scroll down
[21:24] <nekostar> Spherous never know :P
[21:24] <nekostar> makes a great testing ground
[21:24] <naxa> nekostar, i understand but it doesn't work, beleive me!
[21:24] <mavsman4457> When I try to update my sources list, it stops at file 31 out of 44 and refuses to continue or stop, what's wrong?
[21:25] <niek> it doesn't work when changing teh themes
[21:25] <TheCrusher> Anyone have a sollution for no signal on VGA-out?
[21:25] <neunon> so, what's the deal with xorg.conf on Ubuntu 8.10? is it obsoleted somehow?
[21:25] <Mixed_--_> what partitions do you recommend creating on an ubuntu installation?  I usually cheat and do it the easy way, 10 gigs for "/", 10 gigs for "home", and maybe 500megs for "/boot"
[21:25] <naxa> nekostar, if i disable zoom in compiz advanced settings manager, will it return to normal?
[21:25] <Spherous> nekostar: I could always add the second partition when I decide to dual boot with the second OS' disc
[21:25] <hspaans> mixed: just put /boot on / if / is not on LVM
[21:25] <Digit4l> Hello
[21:26] <Digit4l> :)
[21:26] <_lord_x__> Mixed_--_ : depends... but 500 megs for boot is a lot... you want to collect kernels?
[21:26] <nekostar> naxa lemme try it
[21:26] <Ab3L> good night
[21:26] <Digit4l> I have just installed ubuntu 8.10
[21:26] <nekostar> Spherous resizing ext3 is a pain - i recommend leaving it there now for future but hey thats just me lol
[21:26] <Digit4l> but I still have OpenOffice 2.4
[21:26] <nekostar> this is about choice!
[21:26] <Digit4l> is that normal ?
[21:26] <nekostar> root swap and home is minimal ;)
[21:26] <Mixed_--_> _lord_x__, I used to do that but from now on I'll do what hspaans suggested and put "/boot" in "/"
[21:26] <hspaans> digit4l: yes
[21:26] <_lord_x__> digit4l: yes.
[21:26] <_lord_x__> ;)
[21:27] <Digit4l> :(
[21:27] <nekostar> naxa yeah looks like that should work
[21:27] <niek> well, at first x won't start. something about a unknown flag "rgbpath" or somethin, so I commented the line. But yah, I've  custom xorg.conf becuase I have dual monitor and compiz
[21:27] <Spherous> nekostar: I've done it before~ wasn't bad at all, lol
[21:27] <Digit4l> and it's possible to get 8.10 in any way ?
[21:27] <Mixed_--_> ok so how would you partition a HD for a fresh installation???
[21:27] <MetalHeadDead> w00t im upgrading, patience is a virtue
[21:27] <_lord_x__> Mixed_--_: a separate /boot partition is need if you for example encrypt root or stuflike that
[21:27] <ompaul> Mixed_--_, what size?
[21:27] <djhash> niek: what's ur graphics card?
[21:27] <Spherous> nekostar: So do I name the partitions? or how do I tell it which is which? never done it~ haha
[21:27] <niek> nvidia
[21:28] <DeFirence> When i upgraded to 8.10 it had a few issues, now when i try check for updates with the update manager i get the following, does anything know how to get rid of it? Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch. Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch. Some index files failed to download, th
[21:28] <DeFirence> ey have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:28] <nekostar> Spherous lol you delete the partitions showing, then make new one, and it has options for mount point, use as etc.
[21:28] <_lord_x__> DeFirence: could be they currently syncing and hashes not up2date righ now... try again in a few hhours
[21:28] <Mixed_--_> ompaul, size does not matter, the question is what partitions the hard drive should have or do you recommend??
[21:28] <Spherous> nekostar: lol alrighty
[21:28] <unitedpotsmokers> yea DeFirence , i also had the problems like u
[21:28] <djhash> DeFirence: give it time.. most probably the reason is fluctuating bandwidth which can corrupt packet flow..
[21:29] <unitedpotsmokers> like this..  W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.mnosi.org/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden
[21:29] <unitedpotsmokers> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.mnosi.org/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/source/Sources.gz  403 Forbidden
[21:29] <r3z> Alright just upgraded to 8.04 from 7.10
[21:29] <_lord_x__> Mixed_--_ depends on what you like to do ;)
[21:29] <r3z> Had to fix authdaemon
[21:29] <r3z> Now headed to 8.10!
[21:29] <DeFirence> hmm ok, thanks, hopefully i wont have to format :(
[21:29] <djhash> !pastebin | unitedpotsmokers
[21:29] <sahak> is there any download statistics for Ubuntu 8.10?
[21:29] <ompaul> Mixed_--_, actually it does if you have a 40 I don't suggest breaking it up if you have 500GB then I have a different attitude
[21:29] <ompaul> sahak, I know it was tipping 1GB from one mirror most of the day peaking at 1.3
[21:29] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:30] <ompaul> sahak, so many mirrors so no there is not
[21:30] <Mixed_--_> _lord_x__, ok how would you format it for a server that has an old CPU, and about 40 gigs?
[21:30] <runemaste644> I shouldn't have ignored those hardy updates, its got 200mb of updates now and because of the server load, its taking a long time to download them all
[21:30] <unitedpotsmokers> i afraid to restart my laptop if i something wrong happen
[21:30] <niek> but what am I doning wrong ? cuz it worked just fine before the upgrade ....
[21:30] <sahak> ompaul: how about bittorrent statistics?
[21:30] <ompaul> sahak, connect and see
[21:30] <Spherous> nekostar: So, do you know what caused my update to not work?
[21:30] <hspaans> ompaul: the dutch one was only doing 842Mb/s today
[21:30] <Mulder> is there a way to make gtk apps inherit kde theme ? i want to run firefox in kde 4.1 but firefox uses basic gtk theme which is ugly if i do that
[21:31] <ompaul> hspaans, most of the dutch were doing sudo apt-get update already :-) so how many who knows
[21:31] <djhash> niek: using kde/gnome/xfce?
[21:31] <Mixed_--_> ompaul--I have 500 gigs on my desktop, how do you suggest I format the hard drive for the "OS" itself????  Meaning what partitions should I have for the distro?
[21:31] <_lord_x__> Mixed_--_ : / 5 g and the rest for your /myshare or something
[21:31] <jarco> torrent file went way over 2 mb/s here
[21:31] <niek> djhash: GNOME
[21:31] <nekostar> Spherous yeah
[21:31] <raevol> guys i just updated to intrepid, and am having xorg issues. i can get into it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but when i then try to enable the 177 driver it won't enable
[21:31] <hspaans> ompaul: there is a little bump last weekend ;-)
[21:31] <raevol> any ideas?
[21:31] <_lord_x__> mixed_--_ but htats my opinion.. at least you should have space for the os, and packaegs to update
[21:31] <Mixed_--_> _lord_x_, I forgot to mention, my share is another hard drive with 100 gigs
[21:31] <zamba> nm-applet is gone in intrepid.. if i start it manually it appears.. how can i make it appear automatically?
[21:31] <nekostar> Spherous you needed to be bold and upgrade everything you told it not to upgrade the kernel
[21:32] <runemaste644> My maximum download speed is 200 kB/s and no im lucky to get 100 kB/s at some times on these downloads
[21:32] <nekostar> you could probably still get away with doing a sudo aptitude dist-ugprade
[21:32] <nekostar> and just install whatever comes
[21:32] <naxa> nekostar, i beleive that it works for you but not for me... my compiz allways functioned strange anyway... or maybe my button on my mouse is not configured in X...
[21:32] <nekostar> i would just download the iso first just in case
[21:32] <neunon> so, what's the deal with xorg.conf on Ubuntu 8.10? is it obsoleted somehow? what's the "proper" way to configure X?
[21:32] <cypherdelic> ,LETS PARTY!
[21:32] <Mixed_--_> _lord_x_, I do not believe that is an expert setup, since my reading tell me I should have a separate partition for "/" and "/home"
[21:32] <Asara> joaopinto: djhash : nope, didn't work....still stuck in low graphics mode
[21:32] <nekostar> naxa then go to console, stop gdm [X], and rm ~/.config ~/.compiz there might be another
[21:32] <hspaans> neunon: it's almost empty yes
[21:32] <_lord_x__> mixed_--_ hmm then give the os 15 gig /home the rest to store your private files or something... and the rest is clear... a share.
[21:33] <Spherous> nekostar: It didn't ask to upgrade anything, it wanted to remove all 544 files on my pc. Like all the libs, x, all apps, just everything was there, I was afraid I would of lost off my info -again- if I hit remove, it would of like broke my pc~
[21:33] <naxa> nekostar, by the way, thank you for the tip, but it not works
[21:33] <mongolai> zamba:  either look for a preference or set a new gnome profile, perhaps?
[21:33] <nekostar> naxa try #compiz-fusion the best help for that is there
[21:33] <ompaul> mixed I tend to do /boot 2G (far too much but I like safety)   /swap (2.5* ram) up to 2G and then depending on how you view the world i.e. 75G / and 25G /var and the rest for /home
[21:33] <naxa> nekostar, ok, thank you...
[21:33] <_lord_x__> mixed_--_ you use /home a lot on a server?
[21:33] <nekostar> naxa btw
[21:33] <nekostar> restarting X should get you out of zoom mode
[21:33] <nekostar> ctrl+alt+bkspace
[21:33] <nekostar> you need to re login though
[21:33] <neunon> hspaans: in particular, I need to configure the synaptics driver, but the docs for 8.10 haven't gone online yet. do I just throw a new inputdevice section in and muck with that? I've been -told- that xorg.conf is going away or something.
[21:34] <djhash> niek: try runing gnome-wm
[21:34] <Deviosa> hello
[21:34] <_lord_x__> mixed_--_ an epert setup is a setup which fits your belongings.. i cant tell you your specially crafted setup.. as long im not your brain
[21:34] <raevol> guys i just updated to intrepid, and am having xorg issues. i can get into it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but when i then try to enable the 177 driver it won't enable, any ideas?
[21:34] <nekostar> Spherous didnt want to remove anything?
[21:34] <Deviosa> wich command for see all the sevices ?
[21:34] <nekostar> that doesnt sound right...
[21:34] <MetalHeadDead> eight hours to complete the upgrade, im just gonna stick with 8.04 for now
[21:34] <soreau> Hello folks. I was wanting to know, if I am using Hardy currently, and I want to upgrade to Intrepid, do I have to change anything in source.list (other than 3rd party stuff) or can I just apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade? Also, would it be better to use aptitude for this process?
[21:34] <nekostar> there might be some apt pinning going on
[21:34] <raevol> the nvidia driver btw
[21:34] <_lord_x__> deviosa : netstat -tulpen
[21:34] <nekostar> try exploring your /etc/apt directory
[21:34] <abe3k> hi guys, I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and I'm in need of help, the libgl1-mesa-dev package is reported broken, how do I fix it ?
[21:34] <melkart> i have the nvidia 177 driver enabled, and the display of windows is faulty... how can i correct this?
[21:34] <nekostar> but i'm not fully certain
[21:34] <djhash> Asara: how about a restart...
[21:34] <rw_na> hey all
[21:34] <eight> MetalHeadDead hours to complete the upgrade, im just gonna stick with 8.04 for now
[21:35] <nekostar> ompaul o/
[21:35] <Spherous> nekostar: looking for what in it?
[21:35] <Zerothis> can dd made images be used in virtualbox?
[21:35] <ompaul> abe3k, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see how it works ;-)
[21:35] <ompaul> nekostar, o/
[21:35] <Asara> djhash: i did that as well, which is why it took me so long to get back to the irc chan
[21:35] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:35] <niek> this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d4ef6460e
[21:35] <Deviosa> _Lord_x__ it's network services that, but if i want see for exemple "apache on"
[21:35] <nekostar> Spherous perhaps it's prefering the 2.6.24 kernel - maybe try opening synaptic and seeing if you can install 2.6.27-7-generic
[21:35] <hspaans> neunon: it should work out-of-the-box without modifications
 : will this do the whole upgrade procedure again ?
[21:36] <Asara> djhash: been googling, nVidia has some just released some drivers, but no word from ati yet about xorg 7.4....
[21:36] <_lord_x__> Deviosa: you should see the service listening on a specific port.. means its running
[21:36] <OsamaK> Hello. I just want to install Ubuntu 8.10 on my Ubuntu Studio 8.04, I actually want to keep my /home/ dictionaries and remove\reinstall all packages of 8.04.. Is this possible? I had a bad problem with 8.04 and mono 2.0 result in stopping all mono-depends.
[21:36] <Spherous> nekostar: nah, just gonna do a full redo~ its no big deal
[21:36] <neunon> hspaans: but yet, it needs tweaking.
[21:36] <_lord_x__> deviosa: you could aslo try ps aux | grep apache
[21:36] <nekostar> Spherous yeah sounds like it might be best
[21:36] <neunon> hspaans: surely not every machine uses the same LeftEdge, RightEdge, etc values.
[21:36] <Spherous> nekostar: Yeah, hopefully I can get everything back tohow it was though
[21:37] <ompaul> abe3k, no it will catch whatever you missed
[21:37] <wgrant> neunon: What are you missing from the Synaptics docs?
[21:37] <Deviosa> _Lord_x__ just see apache on/raw off/powerd on/nmb off.......
[21:37] <wgrant> neunon: I've put all current ways of configuring them in there.
[21:37] <junkY_San> hi, i have seen an encrypted root partition with ubuntu, asking for the password right after grub. how does this work? i want to do this manually on annother distribution
[21:37] <_lord_x__> Deviosa: im not an apache expert sorry
[21:37] <abe3k> ompaul : should I remove the broken pagkage first or just type in the command ?
[21:37] <d0wn> is there any way to show like, showing all the files over 10gb on my hard drive?
[21:37] <junkY_San> do i have to make an own initrd?
[21:37] <naxa> nekostar, i managed to do use your super+scrolldown! The problem was that I accidentally also enabled zoom lock with super+L when I tried all combinations available to make me unzoom! But there is no key for unzoom now i can see in ccsm but i locked the zoom level! Thank you for your help!
[21:37] <Niek> what does the "RgbPath" keyword in xorg.conf mean ?
[21:37] <ompaul> abe3k, I would just do it and see what happens first
[21:38] <ompaul> abe3k, apt-get update first
[21:38] <hspaans> neunon: then install gsynaptics and tune it
[21:38] <wgrant> Niek: It probably means you used a buggy nvidia configuration tool.
[21:38] <nekostar> np naxa - glad to help a bit :D
[21:38] <Niek> wgrant: what should I try ?
[21:38] <ompaul> abe3k, apt-get update first
[21:38] <Deviosa> _Lord_x__ on suse there is chkconfig
[21:38] <Asara> anyway, this really sucks...is there a way to downgrade 8.10 to 8.04...because if i can't get this problem fixed i don't want to stick with 8.10
[21:38] <Deviosa> _Lord_x__ ok thanks man
[21:38] <tarek_> hello guys
[21:38] <abe3k> ompaul : ok I will do it now
[21:38] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:38] <soreau> Hello everyone. I was wanting to know, if I am using Hardy currently, and I want to upgrade to Intrepid, do I have to change anything in source.list (other than 3rd party stuff) or can I just apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade? Also, would it be better to use aptitude for this process?
[21:39] <tarek_> I would like to chnge my wireless mode setting from manage de "monitor" ?
[21:39] <kantor> hi
[21:39] <tarek_> please?
[21:39] <neunon> hspaans: Alright, but I still want to know where the settings are being saved/loaded from
[21:39] <lawstudent> I want to save a CD. Is it possible to install ubuntu 8.10 from a USB drive (256 MB) or my 30 Gig iPod?
[21:39] <Mulder> neunon, as with xorg 7.4 it's "unnecessary" you can tsill have one if you want
[21:39] <wgrant> Asara: Your card is likely unsupported by the new version of fglrx. What if you disable fglrx?
[21:39] <wgrant> neunon: Which settings in particular?
[21:39] <pipegeek> purged/reinstalled networkmanager, problem was half-fixed; did it again, problem resolved itself.  Weird.
[21:39] <TuxSympathiser> Asara, short answer no, long answer you will need to do a fresh install
[21:39] <kantor> the DVD iso images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com are reflecting the final release of Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:39] <DasEi1> !usb|lawstudent
[21:40] <Mixed_--_> anyone knows if different ubuntu flavors can share a "/home" partition???
[21:40] <wgrant> Mulder: It is highly inadvisable to have InputDevice sections in xorg.conf now.
[21:40] <wgrant> Mixed_--_: That's fine.
[21:40] <neunon> I'm confused as to how an xorg.conf would be unnecessary. is the X team trying to go zeroconf in the non-networking world?
[21:40] <DasEi1> |lawstudent: size of usb = 1 gb or bigger, not sure if ready for ibex already
[21:40] <Mulder> wgrant, what breaks if you have it?
[21:40] <djhash> Niek: check if that file exists.. /ur/lib/X11/rgb
[21:40] <wgrant> neunon: As it should have been years ago, yes.
[21:40] <Asara> wgrant: i don't even have it on 8.10...it's not in the list of Hardware Drivers
[21:40] <wgrant> Mulder: Your input devices, in general.
[21:40] <Izinucs> Mixed_--_: different desktops can.. so xubuntu, kubuntu & ubuntu
[21:40] <Asara> TuxSympathiser: ok, thanks
[21:40] <djhash> Niek * /usr/lib/X11/rgb
[21:40] <Mulder> wgrant, is that because of the new hotplugging system?
[21:40] <Niek> no it doesn't djhash
[21:40] <wgrant> Mulder: Yes.
[21:41] <Mulder> fair enough
[21:41] <joaopinto> Asara, have you tried to manually install the fglrx driver ?
[21:41] <neunon> If there's a specialized case where I -need- a particular setting in there to correct something Xorg got wrong, then I can safely add it to xorg.conf and it will be respected?
[21:41] <soreau> Hello everyone. I was wanting to know, if I am using Hardy currently, and I want to upgrade to Intrepid, do I have to change anything in source.list (other than 3rd party stuff) or can I just apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade? Also, would it be better to use aptitude for this process?
[21:41] <Mixed_--_> wgrant,  do you think that it could work with different linux flavors?  like ubuntu and freespire and 64studio???
[21:41] <Izinucs> Mixed_--_: but you can also load the different "standard" flavors into one install and just change desktops on the login screen using "sessions"
[21:41] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:41] <Mulder> 8.10 is using fglrx 8.10 by the looks of it
[21:41] <joaopinto> !upgrading > soreau
[21:41] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hi there, I am trying to get one of my friends to install ubuntu on their laptop
[21:41] <abe3k> ompaul : this will take a while sorry, I don't know why its taking too long to update :)
[21:41] <DasEi1> !repeat|soreau
[21:42] <soreau> joaopinto: Thanks
[21:42] <wgrant> Mixed_--_: In advisable.
[21:42] <soreau> DasEi1: No thanks
[21:42] <Mixed_--_> Izinucs, if I do that, will KDE consume resources even though I'm using gnome???
[21:42] <wgrant> s/ //
[21:42] <Asara> joaopinto: no, because lots of sources say it doesn't support xorg 7.4, only the free version does and then only in 2d
[21:42] <compton> !patience
[21:42] <s0l1dsnak3123> and they are getting a kernel like error message in an infinite loop
[21:42] <s0l1dsnak3123> from the liveCD with ubuntu 8.04
[21:42] <lawstudent> i took a look at
[21:42] <OsamaK> Hello. I just want to install Ubuntu 8.10 on my Ubuntu Studio 8.04, I actually want to keep my /home/ dictionaries and remove\reinstall all packages of 8.04.. Is this possible?
[21:42] <Mulder> Asara, that's incorrect. i'm using fglrx on 8.10 right now
[21:42] <Flare183> !slow
[21:42] <joaopinto> Asara, I am using the fglrx driver, it works fine
[21:42] <wgrant> Mixed_--_: It will consume disk space, of course, but much less than an entire separate installation would
[21:42] <LinuxApe> Upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and now I can't get xserver started - claims no screen found!! Help please?
[21:42] <joaopinto> ii  fglrx-kernel-s 2:8.543-0ubunt
[21:42] <fbc> Hello, I have a an old usb hard drive. I wanted to know if I can make multiple partitions for the diferrent ubuntu disctributions and just label the partition bootable that I want to currently boot to. Is that possible?
[21:42] <Izinucs> Mixed_--_: maybe a little.. but most of us use some kde programs in the gnome environment anyway.. not a big issue unless you're running a P3 and low ram
[21:42] <lawstudent> i took a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick. is it possible to install from USB without putting the entire ISO on the usb?
[21:43] <wgrant> Asara: We are using a beta version of fglrx which supports Xorg 7.4
[21:43] <Mulder> Asara,  it even looks like the october release of fglrx, so it's damn new
[21:43] <Acknix> is there a way to manually order the servers on xchat? I want a specific server at the top of the sidebar
[21:43] <lawstudent> Would installing from USB give me the same result as installing from a CD?
[21:43] <Mixed_--_> Osamak, you should go to the ubuntustudio channel, I wont try that with my ubuntustudio distro until I consult with them
[21:43] <Mulder> or some beta
[21:43] <Mulder> heh
[21:43] <Niek> djhash: what use does the keyword have anyway ?
[21:43] <wgrant> lawstudent: Yes.
[21:43] <almostdvs> enabling ati drivers broke x on a hardy installation
[21:43] <Asara> joaopinto: Mulder : so sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[21:43] <Flare183> !language | Mulder
[21:43] <Mulder> kudos to ubuntu team for working with amd
[21:43] <fbc> lawstudent, yeah, just faster in most cases if using usb 2.0
[21:43] <wgrant> Asara: No, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[21:43] <groogy> Yo! I'm playing around with the effects for windows in compiz and saw the explode effect and thought that would be perfect for a program that crashes. Anyone got any ideas on how to get Compiz to add that effect to a window whose program crashes?
[21:43] <bobbyd> hi
[21:43] <dekkong> Hello there !! I have a friend that wants an good linux server distribution, he wants to run a dc++ hub, teamspeak server, good firewall what would your recommend?
[21:43] <lawstudent> wgrant: yes to which of my 2 questions?
[21:43] <DasEi1> !who|lawstudent:
[21:43] <lawstudent> fbc: yes to wich of my questions?
[21:44] <Izinucs> !ccsm | groogy
[21:44] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:44] <fbc> lawstudent, plus you don't have to worry about burning the disc to fast for an old drive to read it.
[21:44] <wgrant> lawstudent: 1) No, 2) Yes.
[21:44] <lawstudent> DasEi1: i was talking to everyone, and particurlary to you.
[21:44] <markw_> any ideas on why upgrading to 8.10 would break my LVM?  I get busybox when booting 2.6.27-7 and it doesn't see my lvm partitions.
[21:44] <fbc> lawstudent, yes to the usb ubuntu question.
[21:44] <Asara> wgrant: that's empty for me
[21:44] <DasEi1> |lawstudent: though I never tried this in particular, might try to put the netinstall-cd on a usb
[21:44] <abe3k> ompaul : ok the update is done with no errors
[21:44] <Mulder> i'm amazed people find the d*mn offensive
[21:44] <wgrant> Asara: Then you don't need it and cannot use it
[21:44] <Mixed_--_> DasEi1:  i didnt know about tab, thanks for letting me know
[21:44] <fractal420> Hello, is there a way to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 ?
[21:44] <bobbyd> the VPN setup changed in Intrepid. The VPN connection I had set up is gone now, can anyone tell me where my previous settings were stored?
[21:44] <wgrant> Mulder: It differs around the world.
[21:44] <wgrant> !upgrade | fractal420
[21:44] <Flare183> !upgrade > fractal420
[21:44] <hspaans> markw_: upgrade with cd or with update-manager?
[21:45] <fbc> fractal420, Yes I recommend the alternative bittorrent..
[21:45] <Asara> wgrant: doesn't make sense, i had to keep activating it on 8.04, so why isn't it working in 8.10....i'm running on an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[21:45] <Lenin-chan> anyone can help me compile ndiswrapper 1.53 for 8.10?
[21:45] <Izinucs> Mulder: maybe they don't but you never know how old someone is in here.. they might be 13 a their parents don't want them exposed to that yet/
[21:45] <markw_> hspaans: update-manager
[21:45] <joaopinto> Asara, I have a Radeon HD 4670, which was not listed on the hardware drivers, however it works fine with the fgrlx from the repositories
[21:45] <LinuxApe> Upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and now I can't get xserver started - claims no screen found!! Help please?
[21:45] <fbc> fractal420, you just burn and pop in the disc and bingo! it will ask you if you want to upgrade.
[21:45] <CShadowRun> Just upgraded to ibex, i had a custom keyboard layout that was in /etc/X11/xkb...intrepid killed it. What should i do now?
[21:45] <Mulder> yes alright fair enough
[21:45] <ompaul> abe3k, additional stuff fixed?
[21:45] <markw_> hspaans: I don't think it built the initrd correctly and left out the lvm stuff.
[21:45] <spiekey> hello!
[21:46] <abe3k> ompaul : no package is still broken :(
[21:46] <ompaul> abe3k, additional stuff installed (actually this is the correct question) if so restart
[21:46] <Asara> joaopinto: where did you get the file, on ati.com?
[21:46] <balle_> can i write java in emacs? or is there a program like that i can use?
[21:46] <markw_> hspaans: 2.6.24-21 boots fine, but I loose my nvidia driver so no dual screens.
[21:46] <avarus> Ax3: well, it worked this time
[21:46] <wgrant> Asara: 9xxx's might not be supported by it any more.
[21:46] <dennda> balle_: you can. or there is eclipse if you want a fully blown ide
[21:46] <joaopinto> Asara, no, I have used the repositories version: sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-source
[21:46] <kyle___> ubuntu can not find my SATA hardrive. it hasn't been able to since after ubuntu 7.10. Any ideas?
[21:46] <Flare183> LinuxApe: What card type/brand do you have?
[21:46] <markw_> hspaans: I've rebuilt the initrd with dpkg-reconfigure but had same results.
[21:46] <Mulder> Asara, did you activate it in 8.10 let it download/install, then reboot?
[21:46] <Lenin-chan> as stated: why can't i compile ndiswrapper 1.53 ion ibex?
[21:46] <balle_> dennda: i think i'll give eclipse a try, trying apt-get now
[21:46] <fbc> Hello, I have a an old usb hard drive. I wanted to know if I can make multiple partitions for the diferrent ubuntu disctributions and just label the partition bootable that I want to currently boot to. Is that possible?
[21:46] <pipegeek> Hmm.... is openoffice 3.0 anywhere close to being packaged yet?  Are there experimental packages somewhere?
[21:47] <Juaco> help! compiz won't start and gives this error: "checking for Xgl. not present. No whitelisted driver found"
[21:47] <joaopinto> pipegeek, there is a ppa for it
[21:47] <Izinucs> kyle___: bad drive.. bad sata connector cable.. bad sata motherboard port
[21:47] <pipegeek> thanks, joaopinto
[21:47] <Flare183> Juaco: Ask in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> fbc: no, you have 1 boot partition which can fire up the install on the desired partition
[21:47] <Asara> joaopinto: hmm, when i apt-get that it says i already have the newest version
[21:47] <abe3k> ompaul : this is the error I get when upgrading the package
[21:47] <joaopinto> pipegeek, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[21:47] <abe3k> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dev_7.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb: error creating symbolic link `./usr/lib/libGL.so'
[21:47] <kyle___> lzinucs: the drive is still recognized by the ubuntu 7.10 kernel and windows
[21:47] <s0l1dsnak3123> any help? My friend is getting kernel errors (or as he describes:  [NUMBERS]CODE LOCKERROR(OR SOMETHING) 769634(NUMBERS)) when booting up 8.04 live CD from his laptop
[21:47] <Asara> Mulder: how can i activate it if i don't see it in the hardware drivers window? and i've restarted plenty of times since the distro upgrade
[21:47] <joaopinto> Asara, that's odd :\
[21:48] <kansascanuck> Aw crap I was chatting with someone on the shut down and reset buttons in 8.10 not working an I can remember who it was.
[21:48] <hspaans> markw_: you should provide more details, but the upgrade should work
[21:48] <wgrant> s0l1dsnak3123: I suggest trying the Ubuntu 8.10 live CD.
[21:48] <joaopinto> Asara, check that you also have fglrx-modaliases
[21:48] <Flare183> s0l1dsnak3123: Bad CD or bad CD-ROM Drive
[21:48] <AaronMT> Anyone know how to reuse the same terminal window when I open a new one. I just want a new tab in the same terminal window.
[21:48] <ompaul> abe3k, paste it and put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <yogahnee> i just installed intrepid and have sound problems, everything is overmodulated, just too loud and noise, intel-hda, is there a fix?
[21:48] <DasEi1> s0l1dsnak3123:checked cd for defects ?
[21:48] <LinuxApe> Flare183:  ati mobility radeon 9600.  I've been using the fglrx driver for quite a while with no problems.
[21:48] <Asara> joaopinto: yes
[21:48] <s0l1dsnak3123> wgrant, Flare183: The CD is fine, I've used it many times
[21:48] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:48] <Flare183> AaronMT: Press Alt + Shift + Tab
[21:48] <Flare183> AaronMT: Press Alt + Shift + T*
[21:48] <wgrant> AaronMT: or File->Open Tab
[21:49] <s0l1dsnak3123> wgrant, Flare183: Possibly an ACPI error?
[21:49] <Flare183> LinuxApe: Try it without he XGL
[21:49] <AaronMT> From the desktop I mean
[21:49] <abe3k> ompaul : here http://paste.ubuntu.com/64822/
[21:49] <wgrant> s0l1dsnak3123: Try Ubuntu 8.10 and see if it works.
[21:49] <Flare183> s0l1dsnak3123: Bad drive then
[21:49] <nekostar> s0l1dsnak3123 is that when booting to the installer cd menu or when actually booting the installer itself? is it live cd?
[21:49] <AaronMT> I bound a shortcut to open a new terminal window, anyway to force the behavior to reuse the same terminal open
[21:49] <Mulder> Asara, apt-get install fglrx-modaliases fglrx-amdccle fglrx-kernel-source xorg-driver-fglrx help any?
[21:49] <fbc> ActionParsnip, No I don't think you understand I want to make a 700mb partition for xubuntu and one for kubuntu, etc,etc and so on and so on. Obviously the partitions can all be labeled bootable because the first will boot right? So what if I labe the 3rd 700mb partition bootable, will that work and boot the install??
[21:49] <Flare183> s0l1dsnak3123: No its a squashfs error
[21:49] <spiekey> could anyone please help me with this dep problem please? http://pastebin.com/m53e18cf9
[21:49] <markw_> hspaans: ok, it boots to busy box.  and /dev/mapper/lvmname is missing.
[21:49] <wgrant> AaronMT: Ctrl+Shift+T
[21:49] <igors__> hi all..i have my mic working on my macbook, but show could i switch from the macbook's mic, and another mic i've plugged ?
[21:49] <nekostar> Flare183 occationally a sata setting in the bios can change things - ahci or w/e the hotplug bit is
[21:49] <wgrant> AaronMT: As shown next to File->Open Tab
[21:50] <s0l1dsnak3123> wgrant: i dont have physical access to the computer
[21:50] <kyle___> I have two sata drives, sda and sdb. Ever since after ubuntu 7.10 ubuntu doesnt even see sdb. windows xp and other linux installs recognize it. is there a way to downgrade kernel sata drivers?
[21:50]  * Flare183 thinks
[21:50] <kane77> is there anything I should do to run windows programs on amd64 ubuntu?
[21:50] <AaronMT> no, thats not what im talking about
[21:50] <Flare183> nekostar: Yeap your right
[21:50] <Flare183> !who | AaronMT
[21:50] <joaopinto> kane77, you can use wine for some of them
[21:50] <abe3k> ompaul : should I remove it and reinstall it ?
[21:50] <Slack> Could someone who uses wine IM me, i have a few quick questions
[21:50] <ceil420> where can i get edubuntu?
[21:50] <hspaans> markw_: dpkg -l lvm2 <-- what is the result?
[21:50] <nekostar> so i'm merely suggesting that he checks that sata is in compatable/ide mode Flare183 / s0l1dsnak3123
[21:50] <Izinucs> kyle___: try switching the cables on them and see if they work
[21:50] <Niek> I might have found something - X restart
[21:50] <Flare183> nekostar: Yeah, but I've heard of that happening
[21:51] <Izinucs> kyle___: nevermind.. I read the rest of your post..
[21:51] <lawstudent> wgrant: please confirm, you said "NO". THus, you mean that if i want to install via USB I MUST put the entire 600-700MB iso on the USB drive? (My USB drive is 256 MB only)
[21:51] <Flare183> Slack: I could help you
[21:51] <markw_> ii  lvm2           2.02.26-1ubunt The Linux Logical Volume Manager
[21:51] <kane77> joaopinto, yes, but a program is runing flawlessly on 32 bit ubuntu but does not even start for amd64 one..
[21:51] <wgrant> lawstudent: Yes.
[21:51] <ompaul> abe3k, do the sudo apt-get remove --purge libgl1 ;  sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <s0l1dsnak3123> nekostar: when after choosing from the GRUB menu, he gets this, From the LiveCD (I got it from shipit)
[21:51] <jonty-comp> I thought it might be busy in here =)
[21:51] <joaopinto> kane77, that's odd
[21:51] <Asara> Mulder: have all of them at their newest versions according to apt-get (and i ran apt-get update 15 mins ago), but fglrx-amdccle doesn't exist for me (i'm on an intel machine if that helps)
[21:51] <Terabyte> hey how do i zip a set of files and directories up into a tar file?
[21:51] <Terabyte> retaining the structure
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> fbc: thats fine, just make a small partition to hold boot partition which will hold grub, you cant have more than 1 active partition
[21:52] <Terabyte> recursive, all subdirectories*
[21:52] <fbc> lawstudent, you won't get the entire iso on the usb key with only 256mb
[21:52] <jonty-comp> Anyway, quickie; I believe nvidia-settings should run under gksudo from the adminstration menu, but it doesn't, so settings like twinview etc aren't remembered
[21:52] <marciowsd> Hi mofos
[21:52] <DasEi1>  Terabyte: see man tar
[21:52] <wgrant> Terabyte: Select them, right-click, Create archive?
[21:52] <askand> Hi! I have a  nVidia Corporation GeForce 6150SE now and have installed the nvidiadrivers, how should I do if I want to disable that card and insert a new card? I imagine the xorg will be wrong
[21:52] <Terabyte> i'm not on the gui
[21:52] <lawstudent> wgrant: debian has a "net install", wherein I installed debian on my netbook via USB. the usb had only  a few mb of data, and everything else was installed via internet. is this not possbile with ubuntu 8.10? 8-(
[21:52] <Mulder> Asara, glxinfo | grep vendor doesnt say ati ?
[21:52] <markw_> hspaans: 2.02.26 seems old.
[21:52] <hspaans> markw_: your machine is between Hardy and Ibex
[21:52] <Terabyte> tar --help is huge and runs off the screen, and i dont have a scroll bar
[21:52] <marciowsd> I need help with a video card asus3650
[21:52] <wgrant> lawstudent: Ah, you could do that, i guess. We do have netinsts.
[21:52] <marciowsd> on the unbuntu 8.10
[21:52] <joaopinto> Terabyte, man tar
[21:52] <lawstudent> wgrant: yes, that's what i'd like
[21:53] <abe3k> ompaul : it says "Package libgl1 is not installed, so not removed"
[21:53] <markw_> hspaans: yeah, seeing that.
[21:53] <Asara> Mulder: i get an error when trying that
[21:53] <lawstudent> how does netinsts work, wgrant?
[21:53] <wgrant> lawstudent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:53] <hspaans> markw_: you need to finish your upgrade to Ibex
[21:53] <ceil420> where can i get edubuntu?
[21:53] <Asara> Mulder: BadRequest (invalid code or no such operation)
[21:53] <ompaul> abe3k, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and see how you go
[21:53] <DasEi1>  ceil420:at google-company
[21:53] <profanephobia> hi i have a zonet modem with a motorola chipset, i installed ungrab_winmodem and slamr everything went fine wvdial recognizes my modem but when i dial it cant find the carrier, stupid mode doesnt help either, what could cause this?
[21:54] <wgrant> ceil420: http://edubuntu.org/Download
[21:54] <shoot^> guys, how can I back up my networking settings? eg. all the wireless networks with WEP keys etc?
[21:54] <ceil420> wgrant, cheers
[21:54] <wgrant> ceil420: Note that it's now an addon CD on top of vanilla Ubuntu.
[21:54] <lawstudent> is it possible to do both a) use netinsts (minimal installCD) and b) use 256 MB usb drive at the same time, wgrant?
[21:54] <ceil420> wgrant, bah ;x
[21:54] <markw_> hspaans: yeah, need to figure out how to kick that off.  apt thinks it's "up to date"
[21:54] <ceil420> i don't want everything in vanilla ubuntu just for a 7yo's computer
[21:54] <wgrant> lawstudent: I'm not sure.
[21:54] <wgrant> ceil420: Why not?
[21:54] <hspaans> markw_: fix your sources.list, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:54] <wgrant> And you can always remove stuff afterwards.
[21:55] <hspaans> markw_: and wait
[21:55] <markw_> hspaans: sources.list all points at ibex
[21:55] <ceil420> because a 7yo doesn't need OpenOffice or a half dozen media players etc
[21:55] <DasEi1>  ceil420:I run xubuntu on 12 year's succesfully
[21:55] <wgrant> ceil420: Then remove them when it's installed?
[21:55] <markw_> hspaans: er intrepid.
[21:55] <Mulder> Asara, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64826/  this is what my xorg.conf looks like
[21:55] <Sulle> Gratz to everyone with the new release =D
[21:56] <n8tuser> is the latest Intripid Ibex, getting away from the official debootstrap install? i just redownloaded debootstrap and no intripid in the /usr/lib/debootstrap directory or is it named "potao"
[21:56] <ceil420> wgrant, and if i'd have to remove stuff, i might as well give the kid debian and install educational packages for it
[21:56] <joaopinto> ceil420, do a minimal install with the alternate cd, and then just install what you need
[21:56] <askand> Ubuntu wont read the SD-card from my Nikon D40..anyone knows why?
[21:56] <Mulder> Asara, maybe you want to try modify that (at least the fglrx bit) on your system
[21:56] <n8tuser> is the latest Intripid Ibex, getting away from the official debootstrap install? i just redownloaded debootstrap and no intripid in the /usr/lib/debootstrap directory or is it named "potato"*
[21:56] <hspaans> markw_: run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as root
[21:56] <wgrant> n8tuser: intrepid, not intripid.
[21:56] <ceil420> wgrant, at least i'm more familiar with debian, and it'd probably take about as much time installing the edu packages as it would to remove ubuntu's... 'extras'
[21:56] <wgrant> n8tuser: potato is a very old version of Debian.
[21:56] <markw_> hspaans: been there, done that.
[21:56] <Asara> Mulder: brb, going to restart again...i just got amdccle through the synaptic package manager
[21:56] <joaopinto> n8tuser, it's /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/
[21:57] <c0de2> hi
[21:57] <DasEi1> !hi
[21:57] <c0de2> can anyone give me infos about the ubuntu-mid-edition?
[21:57] <Photosynthesis> I downloaded ibex ISO, but how to I install without burning?
[21:57] <c0de2> what is it good for? is it worth to install on an eee?
[21:57] <wgrant> c0de2: No, an Eee is a netboot, not an MID.
[21:57] <wgrant> net*book*
[21:57] <markw_> hspaans: although I don't know how up to date the mirrors are. (kernel.org).
 unetbootin
[21:58] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> its /usr/lib/debootstrap on mine, but nothing on intrepid there
[21:58] <c0de2> but for what is it good for? i know my eee is a netbook
[21:58] <joaopinto> n8tuser, that is not the directory used by Ubuntu
[21:58] <DasEi1> !usb|Photosynthesis:
[21:58] <cyrax> Sooo, I've been running Ubuntu Intrepid for a while, and compiz has been somewhat broken. Now that we've reached stable, what should I use to configure compiz with?
[21:58] <hspaans> markw_: all mirror are up to date to at least RC-level and that is enough
[21:58] <cyrax> It seems that ccsm is an old version
[21:58] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> odd, am using 7.10 right now.but thats where debootstap was dump when i apt-get install debootstrap
[21:59] <hspaans> markw_: official mirrors that is
[21:59] <J_Man> man, the torrent isn't downloading very fast today - I figured with all the people downloading intrepid, it'd be screaming
[21:59] <joaopinto> n8tuser, so it must have changed with the recent releases...
[21:59] <wgrant> cyrax: What gives you that idea?
[21:59] <markw_> hspaans: kernel.org is official I assume... :)  That's where I've been pointed for the last 10+ years.
[21:59] <wgrant> n8tuser: Gutsy's debootstrap won't know about Intrepid...
[22:00] <n8tuser> joaopinto-> it must have, curios if anyone here tried using debootstrap for installation of 8.10
[22:00] <cyrax> wgrant - apt-cache tells me so
[22:00] <hspaans> markw_: just use your country mirror
[22:00] <joaopinto> n8tuser, I did, on hardy
[22:00] <nohup> i have found a way better way to formulate my question: Which ubuntu person can i pay to get him/her to fix my wireless connection on my aspire one (running ubuntu 8.10) ?
[22:00] <joaopinto> n8tuser, and also now, on intrepid
[22:00] <markw_> hspaans: looks like some underlying apt stuff gon awry, I'll have to dig in and fix it.
[22:00] <n8tuser> wgrant-> how does scripts for debootstrap gets added?
[22:00] <markw_> hspaans: reminds me of running sid.
[22:00] <wgrant> nohup: Atheros?
[22:00] <Sulle> nohup, you can go on their site www.ubuntu.com and get their support from there.
[22:01] <wgrant> nohup: Which is the model of the wifi card?
[22:01] <joaopinto> nohup, buy support from canonical, this channel is not for paid support :P
[22:01] <nohup> im asking, i can't answe, i don't know the guy :)
[22:01] <Flare183> wgrant: Atheros Wireless Card
[22:01] <wgrant> nohup: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, and reboot.
[22:01] <nohup> ah
[22:01] <nohup> is that an ubuntu channel ?
[22:01] <megatog615> anyone know if the openal api has changed since hardy?
[22:01] <LinuxApe> Flare183: how do I start x without XGL?
[22:01] <OzoneNerd> !info apt-cache
[22:01] <DasEi1> !ot|nohup
[22:01] <choon-hee> join #ubuntu-fr
[22:02] <Flare183> !aiglx | LinuxApe
[22:02] <wgrant> !xgl
[22:02] <atmat> hello
[22:02] <hspaans> markw_: then you should know how to fix this
[22:02] <atmat> anyone experienced with TFTP?
[22:02] <Flare183> !hi | atmat
[22:02] <nohup> 11:01PM <wgrant> nohup: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, and reboot.
[22:02] <nohup> 11:01PM <wgrant> nohup: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, and reboot.
[22:02] <nohup> oops
[22:02] <nohup> anyway, i did that with 0 result
[22:02] <Flare183> nohup: hehe
[22:02] <stimpie> my 'darkroom' theme is looking strange, serveral widgets remain white
[22:03] <nohup> (gotto get used to this tiny keyboard.... getting loads of accidental pasts :) )
[22:03] <hspaans> atmat: just ask the question
[22:03] <Flare183> stimpie: Offtopic maybe?
[22:03] <markw_> hspaans: it's telling me it's up to date, but obviously it's not.
[22:03] <markw_> hspaans: I'll get it.
[22:03] <d0wn> when i go to upgrade to 8.10, i get this: "This computer is currently using the NVIDIA 'nvidia' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your video card in Ubuntu 8.10.". Will I be left without a driver, or will I get an alternative installed?
[22:03] <stimpie> Flare183, I dont think its displayed correct (based on internet screen shots)
[22:03] <atmat> I'm trying to install Ubuntu via TFTP
[22:04] <phil99> atmat: *boggles* Why?
[22:04] <hspaans> d0wn: you will use the one from X.org when it has one
[22:04] <pvinis> hello?
[22:04] <atmat> phil99: are you the dreambox guy? I'm trying with TFTP because the CDRom is broken
[22:04] <atmat> it's a laptop
[22:04] <Poldie> hi
[22:04] <pvinis> i am trying to download 8.10
[22:04] <Poldie> anyone had any luck getting java to work in 8.10 64 bit?
[22:05] <Poldie> downloading it was the easy part!
[22:05] <Flare183> stimpie: imagebin it and give me the link
[22:05] <Poldie> took 12 mins
[22:05] <pvinis> but all the servers download very slowly
[22:05] <d0wn> hspaans: but will i be left without a video driver at all after this upgrade?
[22:05] <LinuxApe> !xgl
[22:05] <pvinis> give me one fast server plz
[22:05] <DasEi1> pvinis:use a torrent
[22:05] <Poldie> i used the uk canonical one
[22:05] <osubuck> torrents FTW
[22:05] <phil99> atmat: the dreambox guy?  Gonna assume no because I don't know what you mean!  Can't you get any OS on there to start from?  Floppy/USB boot?
[22:05] <pvinis> can you give me a torrent? :D
[22:05] <Poldie> some guy on slashdot got it in 2 mins using a torrent, allegedly
[22:05] <DasEi1> pvinis:google mininova, get one there..
[22:06] <nohup> now i fucked up so much pressing wrong keys that i filled my scrollbackbuffer too far :) what was that payed supprt channel again ? :)
[22:06] <Hentay> maybe someone plays Colonization on Linux?
[22:06] <hspaans> d0wn: worst case you will use the VESA driver
[22:06] <stimpie> Flare183, screenshot at http://www.klaproos.net/Screenshot.png
[22:06] <atmat> phil99: USB boot, I don't know how to do that, TFTP.
[22:06] <osubuck> hold on pvinis i'll get you one
[22:06] <druciferre> Anyone have any experience with Sansa e250 v2's and Ubuntu ? I can't seem to get it to detect the player. I've tried both MTP and MSC, even installed mtptools, didn't help...
[22:06] <rubbs> I've been having some trouble with my Atheros WiFi card.  Network Manager seems to disable it when I suspend my computer, and doesn't "forget" the AP's.  Therefor, if I move it tries to connect to an AP that isn't there.
[22:06] <Poldie> compiz 3d windows doesn't work on my 8.10 - does a control alt backspace thingy
[22:06] <d0wn> hspaans: okay, thanks
[22:06] <Poldie> as soon as i rotate the cube
[22:06] <pvinis> ok i will try torrentz
[22:06] <osubuck> pvinis, here you go http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[22:06] <pvinis> anyone played levelhead?
[22:07] <pvinis> thx i found one
[22:07] <osubuck> assuming you need 32bit
[22:07] <travis_> wih is the best option for an intel core quad ubuntu 32 or 64?
[22:07] <pvinis> i am dling the 64bit one
[22:07] <Flare183> stimpie: I know exactly what you need hold on let me find it
[22:07] <Poldie> openarena 0.8.0 seems to work but sometimes the front end corrupts visually and you have to reload
[22:07] <travis_> wich
[22:07] <Poldie> 64bit seems fine but no java in firefox 3.0.3
[22:07] <joaopinto> Poldie, do you have compiz enabled ?
[22:07] <travis_> you must be kidding
[22:07] <nohup> wgrant: i installed it from scratch.. wasn't an update from the beta... i guess that's why all the 'workarounds' aren't working for me...
[22:07] <joaopinto> Poldie, there is a java plugin for firefox on amd64
[22:07] <kris_> anyone else having a hard time with the us ubuntu mirrors? apt-get upgrade is taking me forever for apps, < 1k sec
[22:08] <bingungaja> anyone got nvidia problem solved ? i can't enable or activate my nvidia
[22:08] <bingungaja> in ibex
[22:08] <joaopinto> kris_, release day overload
[22:08] <travis_> so joao irmao wich is the best optioni?
[22:08] <rubbs> I've been having some trouble with my Atheros WiFi card.  Network Manager seems to disable it when I suspend my computer, and doesn't "forget" the AP's.  Therefor, if I move it tries to connect to an AP that isn't there. Has anyone else been having this problem
[22:08] <Poldie> joa: yes, compiz is fine (rotate cube, wobbly windows) but not 3d windows. as soon as i rotate the sessoins reboots
[22:08] <kris_> joaopinto: new release today? woah didn't know
[22:08] <hspaans> bingungaja: for 8.10?
[22:08] <musictoto> kris_: thousands of people are upgradig, it's normal
[22:08] <bingungaja> hspaans : yes
[22:08] <joaopinto> travis_, I am using amd64, your choise :)
[22:08] <kris_> ok, no worries then
[22:08] <joaopinto> choice
[22:08] <pvinis> btw.. i love ubuntu:p
[22:08] <porter1> How do we know if our machine is recognizing both cores? System-monitor is only showing one.
[22:08] <hagabaka> much faster to download alternate cd through torrent and upgrade from that
[22:08] <Poldie> joa: can't get java working in the browser though. tried ice tea but it's only partially working
[22:08] <travis_> java and flash working fine?
[22:08] <Wavesonics> what partition type do I use for /boot ?
[22:09] <Bertan> Have they fix the bug that made it impossible to start ubuntu with an usb connected?
[22:09] <Poldie> porter1: systemp monitor shows all 4 cores on my pc in 64bit
[22:09] <n8tuser> rubbs-> i think it is common, so you have to re-associate to the nearest workin AP instead of relying on whats in the cache
[22:09] <Bertan> usb-disk *
[22:09] <thomc> I need help getting sound/video working on my g45 motherboard.
[22:09] <danbh_intrepid> Wavesonics: why not ext3?
[22:09] <Asara> Mulder: nope, that didn't work either, i even tried your xorg.conf but it just told me (after i rebooted) that the device didn't exist
[22:09] <porter1> Poldie, for some reason, it isn't on mine. Is there a certain package that has to be included to utilize both cores?
[22:09] <travis_> im about to install 8.10 but i dont know wich version to get for an intel core quad 32 or 64 bit
[22:09] <phil99> rubbs: I gave up on network manager and switched to wicd which does the job perfectly for me
[22:09] <joaopinto> porter1,  cat /proc/cpuinfo
 Ok, i'm using cfdisk, for type what do I put? 83 - Linux ?
[22:09] <joaopinto> travis_, both work fine
[22:09] <danbh_intrepid> travis_: 32bit, its easier
[22:10] <Poldie> joaopinto: so what is this plug in? where? think it should be made obvious somewhere as without it there isn't really a functioning browser for ubuntu 8.10 64 bit, which is a little poor
[22:10] <rubbs> n8tuser: The problem is that it won't find any of the AP's that are actually there
[22:10] <Bertan> Anyone? I really want to get my usb-disk working again...
[22:10] <travis_> but what is the difference?
[22:10] <markw_> hspaans: found it...   "main" was missing in sources.list
[22:10] <hspaans> bingungaja: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[22:10] <justcollapse> travis_: you can use either.. 64bit is not completely mature yet.. but it works nicely on my machine
[22:10] <lucax> i cant use desktop effects with two users at the same time, how do i do this?
[22:10] <Poldie> porter1: sorry, mine just worked. .
[22:10] <danbh_intrepid> Wavesonics: i dunno
[22:10] <LightTitan> Audio for my computer only works for one program at a time. If I have Skype running, then DVD movies or games have no audio... is there any way I can fix this?
[22:10] <markw_> hspaans: it's going now...
[22:10] <n8tuser> rubbs-> do it manually,  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:10] <rubbs> phil99: I'm not a huge fan of wicd, but I may have to do it.  Thanks
[22:10] <porter1> joaopinto, it is only reporting processor 0
[22:10] <bingungaja> hspaans : ok i go there first
[22:10] <danbh_intrepid> LightTitan: I think thats a skype bug
[22:10] <rubbs> n8tuser : thanks
[22:10] <thilo_> hello, I have installed the packages libqglviewer2 and libqglviewer-dev in ubuntu hardy. But when I compile a project which is linked with the -lqglviewer option, I get a "undefined reference to `QGLViewer::~QGLViewer()'" and many more undefined references.
[22:10] <osubuck> hspaans, wonder how long it will take them to update it?
[22:10] <porter1> And I'm on a dual core dell 1520 laptop.
[22:11] <joaopinto> porter1, it's the cores count field
[22:11] <thilo_> Am I missing something?
[22:11] <hspaans> markw_: auw ;-)
[22:11] <porter1> joaopinto, there is no field of that type.
[22:11] <mdizzle> Anyone around that could help out? i'm new to ubuntu and trying to load a livecd
[22:11] <LightTitan> ok, but take Skype out of the picture, dabh_intrepid, and it still happens. If I have a game running and attempt to run a movie or another game, the other game or movie has no audio
[22:11] <hspaans> osubuck: update what?
[22:11] <lucax> does any one know how to enable desktop effects for two users at the same time?
[22:11] <osubuck> hspaans, will the nv driver be fine to use for now? rather than the nvidia driver
[22:11] <compton> !ask | mdizzle
[22:11] <kris_> ack, my hosting company had me on 7.10 .... *barf*
[22:12] <joaopinto> Poldie, icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[22:12] <pr0fane> I just love ubuntu 8.10 :D
[22:12] <mdizzle> lol thnx
[22:12] <monk12> hello all simple question... how do u recursively grep a directory for a sentence like '//my Drupal comment that i forgot about :)'. i know i put it in one of the files in a directory but unsure which file
[22:12] <joaopinto> porter1, grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[22:12] <markw_> pr0fane: yeah, 8.07 doesn't cut it. :)
[22:12] <lhamil64> would someone mind PMing me for help with partitioning? i've installed ubuntu before but i have a bigger harddrive now and its confusing :P
[22:12] <kris_> hmmm, for my workstation should I do ubuntu or kubuntu
[22:12] <joaopinto> mongolai, grep -r
[22:12] <luite_> what should I do if suspend to disk fails to resume but just hangs after a while, with a garbled screen (8.10)?
[22:12] <joaopinto> monk12, ..^ also man grep
[22:12] <porter1> joaopinto, returns nothing
[22:12] <danbh_intrepid> lhamil64: whats the problem?
[22:12] <mdizzle> When loading off the CD, the computer seems to start up and shows the Ubuntu logo/load screen but shortly after my video goes black and the monitor gets no video signal
[22:12] <markw_> hspaans: wonder how main got dropped from the list, initial upgrade was just "sudo update-manager -d"
[22:13] <compton> monk12, grep -r
[22:13] <stimpie> monk12, grep -r 'search' *.c
[22:13] <bingungaja> hspaans : i'd read the release note, stated there for nvidia 177, should only work for high CPU such as intel pentium 3 or higher, mine is core2duo, but still can't activate the driver ;(
[22:13] <joaopinto> porter1, it reports 2 on me :\
[22:13] <shamus> if I'm running 8.10 beta, should a distribution upgrade box appear?
[22:13] <lhamil64> i'm just going to ask my question in the channel then..
[22:13] <porter1> =(
[22:13] <jonty-comp> hmm, bah, the testing wine in their own repos breaks sound in spotify
[22:13] <monk12> i had trouble usin grep -r for some reason testing a file i knew had a sentence. ill try it again. thanks guys
[22:13] <pavs_> I have a 64bit turian, Should I use 32bit or 64bit intrepid? Because I fear some drivers may not run as good under 64bit.
[22:13] <porter1> I thought upgrading to intrepid might fix it
[22:13] <lhamil64> when i go in to resize my Windows partition
[22:13] <LightTitan> danbh_intrepid, did you catch that last part I said?
[22:13] <hspaans> osubuck: welcome to the world of blobs. this is a reason why I don't truss those solutions
[22:13] <compton> mdizzle, have you tried the other boot options like safe graphics?
[22:13] <DmitriyV> ok guys I got a pretty simple question... i'm tired of dealign with the atl2 driver, since aparantly it still wont work in even 8.10.. I need suggestions on a NIC that wont have issues with ubuntu?
[22:13] <jonty-comp> is there a way to roll back to the wine in the ubuntu repos without removing it and reinstalling it?
[22:13] <Poldie> joaopinto: tried that. that's what's got it partially working, but i have to use an applet to log into my work pc, so i cant' really demonstrate the failure, but the applet loads up and you have to click on onscreen buttons and type text, but it's ignoring keyboard input.  it worked fine on 8.04 32bit.
[22:13] <lhamil64> what do the following mean:
[22:13] <kyle___> is their a way to downgrade SATA drivers
[22:13] <joaopinto> pavs_, if you are afraid, just run the 32 bits version
[22:14] <monk12> btw whats diff between grep and egrep?
[22:14] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone point me to a url of ubuntu 8.10's default wallpaper?
[22:14] <cyrax> monk12 - egrep is more advanced
[22:14] <lhamil64> Free Space Preceding and Free Space Following
[22:14] <danbh_intrepid> LightTitan: yeah, I dunno.  I don't think I have that problem.  so I cant help I don't think
[22:14] <mdizzle> No, guess that might not be a bad idea, is it in the boot option? tried a livecd version of Vixta and it does same thing
[22:14] <osubuck> hspaans, i have an nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 which would use the 96.xxx nvidia driver, if i use the normal NV driver will i still be able to run my native 1440x900 resolution and will i have any problems playing videos?
[22:14] <compton> monk12, egrep is the same as grep -E
[22:14] <LightTitan> danbh_intrepid, k thanks anyhow
[22:14] <druciferre> Anyone have any experience with Sansa e250 v2's and Ubuntu ? I can't seem to get it to detect the player. I've tried both MTP and MSC, even installed mtptools, didn't help...
[22:14] <Poldie> joaopinto: also i tried a page someone posted to ubuntuforums and it crashes firefox
[22:15] <LinuxApe> Flare183: According to the link on help.ubuntu.org, the aiglx code has been rolled into the xorg server already.  So I'm not sure what you are suggesting.
[22:15] <Socceroos> egrep uses a lot more regular expressions
[22:15] <monk12> gotcha extended regexes thanks
[22:15] <Asara> ok, anyone got any ideas on the graphics front for ATI and X.org 7.4? i've tried installing every single package with the name fglrx in it, edited the xorg.conf but i still can't get out of the low grpahics mode
[22:15] <thilo_> can somebody answer my question (above) about how to use the libqglviewer package?
[22:15] <joaopinto> Poldie, I said there was a plugin available, not that it worked for everything :P
[22:15] <lhamil64> Does anyone know about gParted and resizing partitons?
[22:15] <hspaans> osubuck: the only nvidea I use is with Sun Solaris
[22:15] <compton> mdizzle, yes there's an option screen that displays for 30 seconds that has safe graphics and also VGA options
[22:15] <nohup> what was that payed support channel again? (scrolbuffer filled up)
[22:15] <shane2peru> ahh, latest kernel upgrade (about 5min ago) on ibex broke my sound.
[22:15] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: yup
[22:15] <druciferre> lhamil64: what do you want to know about gParted ?
[22:15] <shane2peru> how do I downgrade to the last kernel?
[22:16] <joaopinto> nohup, there is no paid support channel, you need to buy support services from canonical
[22:16] <nohup> oooh
[22:16] <nohup> fuck that :)
[22:16] <lhamil64> DasEi1: Can you explain what these mean: Free space preceding and Free Space following
[22:16] <DmitriyV> ok guys I got a pretty simple question... i'm tired of dealign with the atl2 driver, since aparantly it still wont work in even 8.10.. I need suggestions on a NIC that wont have issues with ubuntu?
[22:16] <joaopinto> !language > nohup
[22:16] <LjL> !language | nohup
[22:16] <djouallah> please where can i find the list of package availabe on ubuntu 8.10 dvd ?
[22:16] <mdizzle> Compton: thanks will have to try it, will probably be back in a few minutes :)
[22:16] <nohup> i'll stick a crappy wifi card in my aspire then... and hope it'll work in some months out of the box :)
[22:16] <shane2peru> I tried to boot off an older kernel, but didn't work.
[22:16] <nohup> ooh, sorry :)
[22:16] <travis_> what does family friendly mean?
[22:16] <nohup> i kinda swear alot :)
[22:16] <hspaans> DmitriyV: Intel Pro/100 always works
[22:16] <Niek> -/
[22:16] <shane2peru> travis_: depends on the family
[22:16] <Poldie> joaopinto:   is there an easy way of just using a 32 bit firefox with 32 bit java/flash (i need both)?  i tried on 8.04 32 bit but didn't get anywhere (it was an old help page I found and some files had gone and the newer ones didn't seem to work)...  do you recommend giving this a go?
[22:17] <travis_> my family swaer a lot!
[22:17] <chrisptzr> I installed ubuntu 8.10 on the second partition of a macbook.  Now OSX boots normally, but grub never comes up.  How can I get grub to show up so I can dual boot?
[22:17] <travis_> swear
[22:17] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: if you resize a partit.by lowering it's size   it frees space before or behind it
[22:17] <shane2peru> travis_: however generally it means no swearing
[22:17] <Niek> I tried a few things, re-configured my whole Xorg.conf, but I still don;t have window borders .. :(
[22:17] <porter1> It means that a paranoid mom wouldn't take offense to what is said in here =)
[22:17] <shane2peru> travis_: my family doesn't swear at all. :)
[22:17] <joaopinto> Poldie, that should be easy to do using a chroot...
[22:17] <travis_> well mine does
[22:17] <Poldie> chroot?
[22:17] <nohup> i love swearing
[22:17] <shane2peru> at any rate my sound broke from the kernel upgrade
[22:17] <travis_> but i love those bastards anyway
[22:17] <nohup> it makes life better and easier :)
[22:17] <shane2peru> nohup: enjoy it all you want in your house. :)
[22:17] <hspaans> niek: no window borders means the you don't have a window manager
[22:17] <DmitriyV> thanks hspaans, cause I'm tired of dealing with atl2 drivers lol. on the .19 kernel i ahd it working with a precompield file, but once the updates rolled out I've had no luck
[22:17] <joaopinto> Poldie, you would install a minimal 32bits system into a directory
[22:18] <nohup> shane2peru: im not even in my own house! :)
[22:18] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I have a 160gb hard drive and I want to set 80gb to Windows and 80gb to Ubuntu. What should these values be? should I juse leave them alone except for the  New Size one?
[22:18] <myconidx> I am trying to run a java .jar file... i have sun's jre installed.. but typing "java" at the command reports commadn not found.
[22:18] <Poldie> joaopinto:  an install of firefox, or a complete 32bit ubuntu install?
[22:18] <myconidx> what am  i missing
[22:18] <myconidx> java
[22:18] <stimpie> Flare183, I just changed the input box color by customizing the theme that sort of solves it
[22:18] <shane2peru> does anyone know how I can roll back the previous kernel?
[22:18] <nohup> wgrant: is the backport and the ndiswrapper the only workaround ? cause i'm a bit hessistant when it comes to installing ndiswrapper :) it sounds so... hacky :)
[22:19] <joaopinto> Poldie, a complete ubuntu 32 bits install as in, the required libs to run firefox32
[22:19] <Edbuntu> was the new version released today?
[22:19] <r0b> Edbuntu: yes
[22:19] <shane2peru> Edbuntu: yep. :)
[22:19] <joaopinto> Edbuntu, yes
[22:19] <aLeSD____> no
[22:19] <Edbuntu> is there an upgrade?
[22:19] <r0b> Edbuntu: yes
[22:19] <shane2peru> Edbuntu: yes
[22:19] <aLeSD____> no
[22:19] <Edbuntu> cool ill go hunt it down
[22:19] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: I'd suggest you first install ubuntu and give it 80 GB, then use rest for windows, then see :
[22:19] <Edbuntu> alesd_____ thank you
[22:19] <DasEi1> !grub
[22:19] <joaopinto> Poldie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[22:19] <myconidx> how do I run a .jar file when 'java -jar' reports command java not found?
[22:19] <thilo_> hello, I have installed the packages libqglviewer2 and libqglviewer-dev in ubuntu hardy. But when I compile a project which is linked with the -lqglviewer option, I get a "undefined reference to `QGLViewer::~QGLViewer()'" and many more undefined references. Is this package incomplete?
[22:19] <Niek> when I start the command "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &", my window borders appear, but my compiz fails
[22:20] <raevol> could someone help me get nvidia drivers working in intrepid
[22:20] <Poldie> joaopinto: uh...i've been using linux (ubuntu 8.04.1) for about 6 weeks now - not sure i can do that.  what would i google for to find a tutorial? (cheers for the help so far, by the way)!
[22:20] <Niek> and when I start compiz again, the window borders are gone
[22:20] <Niek> so it sounds like compiz bug
[22:20] <Poldie> joaopinto: oops - just noticed that link -thanks!
[22:20] <jrib> raevol: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[22:20] <Niek> lets check the compiz channel
[22:20] <raevol> jrib: doesnt work
[22:20] <jrib> raevol: be more specific
[22:20] <bingungaja> raevol : same here, doesn't work too
[22:20] <osubuck> hspaans, looks like i'll just burn it and test out the live cd then :)
[22:21] <Flare183> stimpie: ok
[22:21] <DasEi1>  lhamil64:you wouldn't need gparted for a fresh install, anyway then
[22:21] <raevol> google tells me that jockey doesnt support the new drivers
[22:21] <joaopinto> Poldie, there was a cleaner how-to for it, but I can't find it :(
[22:21] <lhamil64> i've got windows already installed though, should i just run the installer and manually edit the partitions
[22:21] <raevol> i tried installing them through synaptic and using nvidia-xonfig, no dice
[22:21] <shane2peru> when I search in synaptic, I only get the 2.6.27-7 kernel, and nothing even close to that one.
[22:22] <shane2peru> I need the one I just upgraded from.
[22:22] <myconidx> Is there any eta for Ubuntu supporting java?
[22:22] <chrisptzr> I installed ubuntu 8.10 on the second partition of a macbook.  Now OSX boots normally, but grub never comes up.  How can I get grub to show up so I can dual boot?
[22:22] <joaopinto> shane2peru, you can't use an older kernel
[22:22] <Glu3> Is it possible to port forward with a dynamic IP?
[22:22] <csilk> Are msttcorefonts installed by default on intrepid because I can't find an intrepid package for them?
[22:22] <shane2peru> wouldn't that be 2.6.27-4
[22:22] <paul__> When I installed Ubuntu a few hours ago i noticed it did not recognize my Windows XP installation , I also cannot see it in the GRUB menu, any suggestions on how to get access to winxp back again?
[22:22] <shane2peru> joaopinto: ok, so how do I roll back?
[22:22] <Simon1245> Can someone help me i got problem when i downloaded ubuntu 8.10
[22:22] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: I c, no then : defrag windows, run geparted, rezise it to 80 gb (pressuming the drive isn't filled more up )
[22:22] <Flare183> Simon1245: Yes
[22:22] <AnonDan> Hi I'm using ndiswrapper for my wireless card but would like to switch the driver to madwifi... How do I change drivers?
[22:22] <ompaul> Glu3, the port has nothing to do with the ip, you can forward ports
[22:22] <jrib> Simon1245: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[22:22] <shane2peru> joaopinto: oh, Ihave been using ibex for a week now.
[22:22] <joaopinto> shane2peru, you can't, you need a fresh install to roll back to a previous ubuntu release
[22:23] <csilk> !ask | Simon1245
[22:23] <Flare183> AnonDan: Depends on which card you are talking about
[22:23] <joaopinto> shane2peru, so what is your problem with the current kernel ?
[22:23] <aLeSD____> paul__ can you mount the windows partition from the ubuntu enviromnent ?
[22:23] <Flare183> !ntfs | aLeSD____
[22:23] <shane2peru> joaopinto: my sound worked before the latest kernel release, it was just updated today.
[22:23] <csilk> aLeSD____, yes
[22:23] <shane2peru> joaopinto: just the kernel, I have been running ibex for a week now.
[22:24] <aLeSD____> csilk: so edit the menu.* in /boot/grub ...
[22:24] <nikolajsheller1> macbook
[22:24] <shane2peru> and it worked better before it was released. lol :)
[22:24] <AnonDan> Flare183: I have a Belkin F5D7000 ver. 5000
[22:24] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:24] <aLeSD____> csilk: if u are able ... I don't know if ubuntu has a front end for that
[22:24] <joaopinto> shane2peru, oh.. that upgrade
[22:24] <zamba> i have a private key with a password that i use to connect to other hosts.. but now i want to run a cron job that rsyncs files from one host to another.. this of course fails, since the cron process haven't got access to my ssh-agent.. how can i solve this?
[22:24] <Flare183> AnonDan: Ok hold on
[22:24] <csilk> !ntfs | aLeSD____
[22:25] <jeffrey1> Tried to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10....says my system is already up to date....why can't I see the new release
[22:25] <AnonDan> I just want to try the madwifi drivers but i'm not sure how to temporarily remove ndiswrapper, or how to switch drivers
[22:25] <chrisptzr> how do you install grub on a mac?
[22:25] <AnonDan> Flare183: thanks
[22:25] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:25] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I'm sort of back at the beginning now (lol) I thought, "well I think that gParted will be easier to resize a partition" so I opened it and i really don't know what to put in for values when I go to resize my Windows partiton
[22:25] <joaopinto> !upgrading > jeffrey1
[22:25] <shane2peru> joaopinto: right it is really rather new, and broke my sound.
[22:25] <Asara> i'm hating this move to upgrade to 8.10 right now, i have tried to fix this problem with my ati drivers for ages now and nothing works, and to downgrade to hardy i have to fresh install, which is a pain
[22:25] <hspaans> zamba: ssh-keygen
[22:25] <Flare183> AnonDan: np
[22:25] <jrib> zamba: the easy solution I see is to generate a key with no password
[22:25] <csilk> Are msttcorefonts installed by default on intrepid because I can't find an intrepid package for them?
[22:25] <Thedjatclubrock> Are the Repo servers down?
[22:25] <zamba> hspaans: generate a new set of keys for that use?
[22:25] <joaopinto> shane2peru, this new kernel was expected to bring a security fix related to network, it shouldn't have mess with your sound
[22:25] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:25] <zamba> jrib: that's what i thought as well..
[22:25] <shane2peru> Thedjatclubrock: just slow because of the release today
[22:25] <nikolajsheller1> chrisptzr: I'm fighting with the same problem... So far I have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[22:26] <jrib> !info msttcorefonts | csilk
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> shane2peru: They keep failing, along with the PGP key
[22:26] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: It's non an absolute must, but makes resizing safer : did you defrag the win - parti ?
[22:26] <zamba> jrib: and then just specify in the cron job which private key to authenticate with, right?
[22:26] <Flare183> AnonDan: This should help: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Belkin
[22:26] <shane2peru> joaopinto: well, that is great, because I have now sound.
[22:26] <hspaans> zamba: yes without an password and update your ssh_config so those keys are only used in that situation
[22:26] <Flare183> AnonDan: If it doesn't l let me know
[22:26] <jrib> zamba: yep
[22:26] <Flare183> let me know*
[22:26] <shane2peru> Thedjatclubrock: yes, they are overloaded.
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> shane2peru: Upgrade failed :P
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> !upgrad
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> !upgrade
[22:26] <raevol> has anyone gotten nvidia drivers working on intrepid?
[22:26] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:26] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I thought of that before I downloaded ubuntu and when i opened the defragger it says i dont need to defrag
[22:26] <paul__> So yea I am wondering how am i suppoosed to mount the windows partition from Ubuntu's enviroment
[22:26] <nikolajsheller1> !efi
[22:26] <J|Gerrit> Hi all
[22:27] <jrib> raevol: you never answered my request for details
[22:27] <hspaans> raevol: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[22:27] <shane2peru> joaopinto: I guess I should file a bug in that case.
[22:27] <nikolajsheller1> !macbook
[22:27] <csilk> jrib, my stupid mistake, i was looking at packages.ubuntu.com from a hardy machine so it showed me the hatdy packages by default.. duh
[22:27] <AnonDan> Flare183: I've already built and installed madwifi. Just don't know how to load it instead of ndiswrapper (which loads by default)
[22:27] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: you're on live- cd now ?
[22:27] <Thedjatclubrock> How do I upgrade server edition
[22:27] <csilk> *hardy
[22:27] <raevol> jrb sorry this place is a flood, what details?
[22:27] <lhamil64> DasEi1: yes
[22:27] <raevol> jrb sorry this place is a flood, what details?
[22:27] <raevol> urg
[22:27] <jrib> !upgrade > Thedjatclubrock
[22:27] <Asara> anyone have any ideas how to get the fglrx driver working properly...i reinstalled it and still nothing works
[22:27] <Simon1245> Someone help me i have said it 3times no answer
[22:27] <Flare183> AnonDan: I think ndiswrapper is better
[22:27] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:27] <jrib> raevol: what exactly happens when you try to use Hardware Drivers?
[22:27] <joaopinto> shane2peru, yes you should :(
[22:28] <jrib> Simon1245: is /dev/sda6 your /?
[22:28] <raevol> jrib i click activate, it pops up a little window and works, then closes it and stays unactivated
[22:28] <csilk> Asara, I'll tell you in 30 mins after i get intrepid on my ATI desktop, only got it on my intel laptop right now (unless anyone else answers you first
[22:28] <Simon1245> I think so
[22:28] <jrib> raevol: what happens when you reboot?
[22:28] <raevol> jrib and then when i restart my x crashes
[22:28] <jrib> raevol: what card?
[22:28] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: you could use that, but in your question I see you're not very familar with it, so I'd suggest you to d/l the gparted-live cd, which offers a better support for that, nice tool anyway
[22:28] <monk12> last question on grep. how do u suppress files that arent binary. seems to just give output saying found match in binary like 'Binary file php5ts.dll matches'. id rather not output binary matches. didnt see an option in man-ning grep for doing that.
[22:28] <Simon1245> I think i have same problem as raevol
[22:28] <raevol> jrib 7800 agp
[22:28] <shane2peru> joaopinto: is there anything I can do to troubleshoot it first?
[22:29] <Asara> csilk, ok...i'm running on an old laptop, with a Mobility Radeon 9700...so pretty old
[22:29] <jrib> monk12: I just pipe to  'grep -v ^Binary', but there may be a better solution
[22:29] <amortvigil> hey who knows where to get the panel background added to the live cd?
[22:29] <csilk> Asara, ah rite, i got a Radeon 2400 HD so we might be using different drivers lol
[22:29] <chrisptzr> nikolajsheller1: looks like you can get by holding down "alt" when you boot.  A bit of a pain, but whatever.
[22:29] <jrib> raevol: have you tried any other methods to enable the nvidia driver?
[22:30] <yowshi> torrent so slow we need more people to share it
[22:30] <yowshi> seeeeed people seeed
[22:30] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-live-0.3.9-4.iso?modtime=1222872844&big_mirror=0
[22:30] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I could just try to do it in the installer or something and then hope i did it right :) this isn't my main machine and the xp install is pretty fresh so I don't really care if i hose it
[22:30] <raevol> jrib i tried the hardware drivers thing and i tried manually getting the packages and using nvidia-xconfig
[22:30] <Asara> csilk, yeah...that's the problem...if the newer fglrx drivers don't support my card that sucks
[22:30] <katherine> in case anyone is looking for something to do tonight, linuxjournal.com/live starts at 7:30 CDT :) "horror stories from the command line" woo hoo!
[22:30] <J|Gerrit> I have installed just Ubuntu Hardy on my laptop and I have to do a packing called: eeepc-acpi-scripts instal this need, however, acpi-support-base, and this pack acpi-support-base there nowhere is?
[22:30] <Thedjatclubrock> Cool
[22:30] <Flare183> !ot | katherine (sorry rules)
[22:30] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: nice, so run gparted...
[22:30] <Thedjatclubrock> I will do ubuntu on mac soon!
[22:30] <jrib> raevol: ok.  What is the current status?  What nvidia-* package do you have installed if any?
[22:30] <bow> hi
[22:30] <bow> =)
[22:30] <Asara> and it's a pain since there was no warning when upgrading to 8.10 that it wouldn't work, i assumed that what worked in 8.04 would work in 8.10
[22:30] <katherine> ah, ubuntu offtopic it is
[22:31] <joaopinto> shane2peru, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:31] <soldierboy> ty katherine, i'll check it out
[22:31] <ninjafury> I've got OpenSuse running on a machine. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on it over the network without a live CD?
[22:31] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: next to it, open a terminal...
[22:31] <raevol> jrib nvidia-177
[22:31] <bow> ÏÈÄÀÐÛ
[22:31] <hspaans> Asara: there is/was with the releasenotes
[22:31] <bow> =)
[22:31] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: terminal: type mount
[22:31] <raevol> jrib nvidia-177-kernel-source to be specific
[22:31] <tilde> sup
[22:31] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:31] <joaopinto> shane2peru, to start, run alsamixer from the terminal
[22:31] <Thedjatclubrock> Partitioning!
[22:32] <jrib> raevol: nvidia-glx-177 ?
[22:32] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I pasted in the ammount in megs (81920) for 80gigs. I haven't done anything yet but it looks like it will partition it in half and leave the rest as unallocated space
[22:32] <raevol> and some others, nvidia-glx-177
[22:32] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: make sure, the win-parti isn't mounted
[22:32] <Flare183> !spam | bow
[22:32] <raevol> and nvidia-glx-new, though that must have bee a dependency
[22:32] <raevol> and some others
[22:32] <tilde> when having dual monitors is it possible to *not* have the taskbar extend fully across both monitors
[22:32] <jrib> raevol: nvidia-177-kernel-source is just the source.  What does this return:  aptitude search '~nnvidia~i'
[22:32] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: sounds good, in the top of gparted, press apply
[22:32] <shane2peru> joaopinto: hmm, that isn't good:  No mixer elems found
[22:32] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:32] <nosemiaj> help
[22:33] <Flare183> !ask | nosemiaj
[22:33] <tilde> yes?
[22:33] <bow> ÑÓÊÈ
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <sylar29> could somebody tell me if they had updated to ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04 using update manager
[22:33] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:33] <fuje> I love the new alt-tab in intrepid! The one in gutsy made me dizzy
[22:33] <tilde> So any idea about the dual monitor situation? and flare183 whats the question
[22:33] <bow> KISS MY ASS
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <tilde> nah
[22:33] <sylar29> is it same? i mean does it work well
[22:33] <jrib> bow: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:33] <Asara> sylar29, i did, works nicely
[22:33] <jrib> sylar29: yes, should work fine
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <Simon1245> Someone help me plz
[22:33] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:33] <tilde> what
[22:33] <sylar29> wow , going to do that now
[22:33] <bow> you GEi
[22:33] <DasEi1> bow:oo
[22:33] <bow> &
[22:33] <raevol> jrib nvidia-common, nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-kernel-common, the rest have an A? autoinstaled?
[22:33] <Flare183> !language | bow
[22:33] <tilde> simon1245 REINSTALL
[22:34] <bow> oooh
[22:34] <bow> +9
[22:34] <hagabaka> cdromupgrade prints "can't load DistUpgradeViewGtk (No module named Common.SimpleGladeApp)" and quits. any idea how to fix that?
[22:34] <jrib> raevol: use paste.ubuntu.com and just copy and paste
[22:34] <zamba> what is the improved IM client in intrepid?
[22:34] <Simon1245> But i have files on it that i not want to remove
[22:34] <jrib> bow: stop spewing nonsense please
[22:34] <bow> I do not speak english
[22:34] <dmsuperman> I'm having an issue. I have quad monitors. I have dual X screens, with twinview enabled on both. Whenever I restart my machine, the second two monitors don't get any video output. I use nvidia-settings, and only one of them is even detected, but it's not turned on. It takes for me to enable the third one, restart X, enable the third one again (which disables the first one), then enable the fourth one and restart X again every reboot
[22:34] <tilde> then backup
[22:34] <bow> =)
[22:34] <Flare183> zamba: Pigden
[22:34] <raevol> jrib one sec then
[22:34] <zamba> Flare183: ah, so it IS pidgin, ok
[22:34] <jrib> Simon1245: you never answered my question
[22:34] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: did gparted finished the pending operation ?
[22:34] <Flare183> zamba: Yeap
[22:34] <Flare183> !en | bow
[22:34] <dmsuperman> I have dual video cards
[22:34] <Simon1245> Jrib what was your question?
[22:35] <tilde> So on dual monitors how do i have the taskbar not extend across both monitors
[22:35] <bow> WHAT*
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Use twinview
[22:35] <Flare183> !dualhead | tilde
[22:35] <tilde> dmsuperman got it
[22:35] <bow> o e
[22:35] <jrib> Simon1245: is sda6 your /?
[22:35] <Flare183> !spam | bow
[22:35] <bow> yes
[22:35] <bow> =)
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Did you just enable dual monitors?
[22:35] <tilde> yes
[22:35] <tilde> and im using twinview
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Restart X
[22:35] <tilde> dmsuperman i did
[22:35] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64848
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: That's usually the problem for me, I'm not sure then
[22:35] <lhamil64> DasEi1: crap, i got an error
[22:35] <tilde> oh well
[22:36] <jrib> raevol: lsmod | grep nvidia
[22:36] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I saved it but I'm not sure what to copy
[22:36] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: which error ?
[22:36] <mynous> how do you hide directories in vsftpd on a per user basis?
[22:36] <myconidx> how do you tell what release of ubuntu you are runnig
[22:36] <raevol> jrib nothing
[22:36] <tilde> so many ubuntu noobs -_-
[22:36] <raevol> jrib using dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get into x right now
[22:37] <CrimsonScythe> anyone else here have serious problems with ATI cards in 8.10? i get to the animating bar during boot-up, and then the screen goes black and the monitor goes into sleep. i had to boot into the old hardy kernel to get X up and running again
[22:37] <tilde> does fedora's telinit 3 to end x and telinit 5 to restart x apply in ubuntu?
[22:37] <jrib> Simon1245: well at this point, I think it would be prudent for you to backup your files first.  Use a livecd.  Or do you already have backups?
[22:37] <DasEi1> lsb_release -a    , myconidx:
[22:37] <lhamil64> DasEi1: This part says "ERROR" next to it: shrink filesystem  00:00:03    ( ERROR )
[22:37] <jrib> tilde: no.  runlevels 2-5 are identical by default.  Why do you need to do that?
[22:37] <Simon1245> Jrib How to backup them?
[22:37] <tilde> jrib just wondering, so runlevels 2 then runlevels 5?
[22:38] <jrib> tilde: huh?
[22:38] <tilde> simon1245 make a partition and put your stuff on it, or backup on external hard drive
[22:38] <lhamil64> DasEi1: and also this: real resize  00:00:00    ( ERROR ) and grow filesystem to fill the partition  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
[22:38] <jrib> Simon1245: use a live cd
[22:38] <tilde> jrib is that the order of commands
[22:38] <tilde> simon1245 backing up isnt hard......
[22:38] <Simon1245> Ok
[22:38] <lhamil64> DasEi1: and finally real resize  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
[22:38] <jrib> tilde: order of what commands?  runlevel 2 is the default runlevel
[22:38]  * Flare183 thinks jrib is helping a lot people at the same time (which can be overwhelming)
[22:38] <tilde> jrib what do i do to end it?
[22:39] <crischan> any DEB experts around? i want to download a source deb. any way to get all required dev-debs required to build the source-deb?
[22:39] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: open a terminal...
[22:39] <jrib> tilde: end what?  X?
[22:39] <tilde> yeas
[22:39] <tilde> yes*
[22:39] <lhamil64> DasEi1: ok
[22:39] <DasEi1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:39] <jrib> raevol: what does 'sudo modprobe nvidia' do?
[22:39] <DasEi1> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:39] <DasEi1> url from terminal ?
[22:39] <lhamil64> DasEi1: the first command it cant find the package
[22:40] <Caesi> hullo, could sb tell me where to find the standard Ubuntu wallpapers?
[22:40] <Caesi> thnx
[22:40] <lhamil64> do you want me to go to an online pastebin and past my entire errors file
[22:40] <raevol> jrib FATAL: module nvidia not found
[22:40] <dollabillz217> anyone having issues with getting broadcom wireless going on 8.10?
[22:40] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: running ibex ?
[22:40] <lhamil64> DasEi1: yes
[22:40] <tilde> dollabillz217 what wireless card do you have
[22:40] <DasEi1> !paste| lhamil64:
[22:41] <csilk> why doesn;t firefox tell you when you need to install the flash plugin anymore?
[22:41] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: sudo fdisk -l
[22:41] <tilde> dollabillz127 8.10 has a problem with intel wireless cards that can cause physical damage to them
[22:41] <velko> crischan, apt-get build-dep
[22:41] <cyphase> are the issues mentioned in the release notes pretty much all the major issues?
[22:41] <DasEi1> copy the out to pastebin, give url
[22:41] <jrib> raevol: what do you have in /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/updates/dkms ?
[22:41] <cyphase> none of them affect me, so..
[22:41] <linux-newbie> hello
[22:41] <dollabillz217> tilde: so what can I do about it anything?
[22:41] <csilk> ahh, it does on a few sites
[22:41] <Dextorion> hi linux-newbie
[22:41] <tilde> dollabillz217 what wireless card do you have
[22:41] <jrib> csilk: what site did it fail on?
[22:42] <lhamil64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64854/
[22:42] <sylar29> i have intel wireless card is that a problem
[22:42] <raevol> jrob no updates folder in the kernel foler
[22:42] <csilk> jrib, youtube
[22:42] <crischan> velko - thanx!
[22:42] <post_break> can anyone give me a hand with user permission problems?
[22:42] <dimedo> hi, i've got an ATI radeon 9600 or 9800 installed and i can't get higher resolutions than 800x600. any ideas?
[22:42] <raevol> jrib no updates folder in the kernel folder
[22:42] <jrib> csilk: youtube tries to be too smart.  If it detects you do not have flash, it does not try to load it.  So then firefox doesn't offer to install it
[22:42] <sylar29> dimedo : install fglrx
[22:42] <tilde> dimedo install/update the radeon drivers
[22:42] <jrib> raevol: alright, purge all your nvidia stuff (including the packages for the kernel modules)
[22:43] <egosintrick> what's the prob post-break
[22:43] <raevol> jrib roger sec
[22:43] <dimedo> sybariten, already installed. each time i start ubuntu, i'm being informed about ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[22:43] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I think i might get off for the night now though, i will try over the weakend. if i can't get it to work I will come back
[22:43] <csilk> jrib,  yeah I guess that makes sense
[22:43] <post_break> hi egosintrick I have a specific area i want all my users to be able to go wild in
[22:43] <ozzloy> my vpnc connection keeps timing out.  how do i stop that?
[22:43] <post_break> they would be trusted users but not root
[22:43] <post_break> how would i go about setting that up?
[22:43] <noclueguy> good evening
[22:43] <jrib> csilk: it's never worked on youtube.  What needs to happen is that the extension should detect that a user visits youtube.com and then it should trigger the install :)
[22:43] <raevol> jrib done
[22:44] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I will stay on for a little, but i will be afk. ill check the chat when i get back
[22:44] <noclueguy> anyone with trouble on ubuntu 8.1?
[22:44] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: check gparted-live !!
[22:44] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-live-0.3.9-4.iso?modtime=1222872844&big_mirror=0
[22:44] <Wavesonics> omg... getting RAID10 set up is a b****
[22:44] <tazmania_> hello
[22:44] <raevol> jrib did apt-get --purge remove nvidia*
[22:44] <jrib> raevol: alright, this includes linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic, nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-common ?
[22:45] <Paulrf> Anyone know fix for Intel GV910GL issue with V8,10?
[22:45] <Ben1> hi guys, is anyone else having problems with DVD playback in intrepid?
[22:45] <raevol> jrib no, one sc
[22:45] <jrib> Ben1: no, ask your question
[22:45] <ninjafury> is there anyway to get proper 3d accell on intel gfx cards in X?
[22:45] <Wavesonics> any 1 know of a good way to do RAID10 during 8.10 server install?
[22:45] <DasEi1> noclueguy:the longer you drive, the more holes are in the street
[22:45] <bungieQord> RAID10? I've never heard of that
[22:45] <amortvigil> why do i have all this lag when i move my screens in xinerama?? i get 2400fps easely
[22:45] <jrib> noclueguy: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[22:45] <noclueguy> What there's an issue with that I got that chipset. Does it a kernel panic?
[22:45] <Wavesonics> RAID 1+0
[22:46] <Hoover_4000> perscitus: r u here
[22:46] <raevol> jrib done
[22:46] <wers> how do I check the integrity of my iso again? I just downloaded it with utorrent in my windows partition. hehe
[22:47] <DasEi1> !md5sum!wers
[22:47] <noclueguy> think you can do a selftest after you bootet from the burned disc
[22:47] <hahalla> can ubuntu easily be installed on an existing xp sp3 comp? or will it be complications?
[22:47] <nekostar> DasEi1 you need to know about md5sum ?
[22:47] <jrib> raevol: what does 'uname -r' return by the way?
[22:47] <nekostar> noclueguy yes there's a disk check menu
[22:47] <aLeSD____> hahalla: good question
[22:47] <bungieQord> How many hard drives are necessary for a RAID 1+0?
[22:47] <DasEi1> wers:there is a menuoption in the installer and also check the md5sum
[22:47] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10, anyone know hwo to get the Nvidia to work with A GeForce 6150 LE
[22:47] <raevol> 2.6.27-7-generic
[22:47] <nekostar> bungieQord 4
[22:47] <raevol> jrib 2.6.27-7-generic
[22:47] <jrib> raevol: ok
[22:48] <DasEi1> nekostar:no, it's for wers
[22:48] <bungieQord> nekostar, do they have to be all the same size?
[22:48] <raevol> sorry just trying to higlight :P
[22:48] <nekostar> raid 0 on two to create one volume raid 1 [mirror] two of those and get your 10
[22:48] <jrib> raevol: now lets install nvidia-glx-177 and see what happens
[22:48] <Asara> well screw this, i'll wait a couple of days and hope that a supported driver or a fix comes out for my ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, if not i'm wiping the system and reverting back to 8.04
[22:48] <tovella> hahalla: yes.
[22:48] <raevol> jrib roger
[22:48] <noclueguy> Yea that was my question to the guy who asked about checking the iso. I first burn and then check it :-)
[22:48] <nekostar> bungieQord should be, however it could possibly use the smallest disk size if your lucky
[22:48] <wers> DasEi1, but i will have to burn this first right? i wanna check the .iso's integrity first
[22:48] <Ben1> i am trying to get a dvd to play and it wont in either video player or vlc, any ideas?
[22:48] <void___> Hey guys! How can I know which video driver I'm using?
[22:48] <nekostar> but yes.
[22:48] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I am having MAJOR issues with my new monitor.  I had an old VGA cable that was defective in the red channel, but it could give me a resolution of 1280x1024.  I bought a new cable, and now I can't get anything above 640x480.  HELP!!!
[22:48] <ransom> I have a question about the Dynamic Kernel Module Support tool: is it enabled by default and if so can I expect to be able to update the kernel without breaking third party drivers?
[22:48] <doggymenz> my sister has ubuntu 8.04 on her computer, and audio worked in totem, but not in flash, why?
[22:48] <jrib> hahalla: do you want to keep windows?
[22:48] <nekostar> doggymenz apt-cache search lib flash
[22:48] <DasEi1> !md5sum|wers
[22:48] <nekostar> amake sure that result is in there
[22:49] <doggymenz> nekostar, oh, thanks
[22:49] <HorizonXP> hey if i downloaded the intrepid AMD64 desktop cd, how can i use it to upgrade from 8.04?
[22:49] <jrib> doggymenz: known issue with flash and 8.04.  It's resolved in 8.10
[22:49] <nekostar> wers are you on windows or linux btw
[22:49] <nekostar> you can check first
[22:49] <wers> thanks DasEi1
[22:49] <jrib> !upgrade > HorizonXP
[22:49] <DasEi1> np, wers
[22:49] <wers> on my ubuntu now nekostar
[22:49] <nekostar> in linux: md5sum /path/to/iso
[22:49] <Slart> HorizonXP: try just inserting it.. I think you'll get some kind of popup
[22:49] <nekostar> ^^
[22:49] <doggymenz> jrib, oh great, we just updated to 8.10, but havent tried any audio yet, cuz its late
[22:49] <hahalla> no, wanna remove windows and run ubuntu on it
[22:49] <jdsbluedevl> does anyone see my MAJOR issue?!
[22:49] <nekostar> then go to the dl page and find the md5 description file and amke sure same
[22:49] <wers> and i'll compare it with, nekostar ?
[22:49] <doggymenz> my sister uses ubuntu, she only uses her computer for facebook and youtube
[22:50] <nekostar> wers it gives result
[22:50] <nekostar> there's another way to do it all in one
[22:50] <nekostar> gimme one second ok
[22:50] <nekostar> ?
[22:50] <runemaste644> I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong?
[22:50] <FloodBot3> nekostar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <jrib> hahalla: will be as easy as putting the cd in your computer, rebooting, and booting from the cd then
[22:50] <HorizonXP> jrib: i saw that, but it says to use the alternate desktop CD
[22:50] <Exposure101> Does anyone know how to get the sound drivers to work on a new Dell STUDIO 17????  I was hoping going from 8.10RC to 8.10 they would have fixed it....but still no sound :(
[22:50] <void___> Did Ubuntu drop xorg.conf? Coz there's no info on the driver the system is using.
[22:50] <nekostar> shush bot i fat fingered it
[22:50] <markw_> ouch scrollkeeper just exploded updating database. :(
[22:50] <jdsbluedevl> come on, I have a MAJOR issue!
[22:50] <Juanelone> wers:http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[22:50] <wers> nvm nekostar. i found the md5 here http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[22:50] <MonkeyMan> Anyone having trouble getting the files to download when upgrading to 8.10?
[22:50] <jrib> HorizonXP: ah right.  You can't use the desktop cd to upgrade
[22:50] <raevol> jrib taking a minute i'll let you know when it's done
[22:50] <wers> thanks Juanelone haha
[22:50] <Slart> void___: I think it autodetects most of the settings
[22:50] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: have you tried booting from a live-cd?
[22:50] <justcollapse> jdsbluedevl: what is your major issue?
[22:51] <HorizonXP> jrib: BOOOURNS... so.... options?
[22:51] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10, anyone know hwo to get the Nvidia to work with A GeForce 6150 LE
[22:51] <Slart> void___: but I'm pretty sure it will still pick up any settings you put in the file.. and overrider the ones it detects
[22:51] <markw_> jdsbluedevl: can't be anything compared to my 2nd monitor not working.  :)
[22:51] <jrib> HorizonXP: just use update-manager?  Or download the alt cd
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> all I know is that with my old defective cable, I was able to get 1280x1024
[22:51]  * markw_ notes it sucks only having 1 24" wide display working.
[22:51] <noclueguy> I got trouble on my laptop and my desktop. Desktop comes to ask my about the time zone and then gets a kernel panic (Num- and Scroll- lock blink). And the laptop gets a white screen of death. Can I do something about that. To the specs. Laptop got ATI-Mobility Radeon 3650... The desktop is pretty standard intel 950GEV Mainboard 4 Gigs of RAM. 3GHZ-P3 and Nvidia 6800 GTX...
[22:51] <wers> time flies so fast. it's already 8.10. hehe
[22:51] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: have you tried booting from a live-cd?
[22:51] <hahalla> as for php and mysql, ubuntu is far better and faster than xp on this area, and uses less ram?
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> and now I can't get anything above 640x480
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> no, not yet
[22:52] <Exposure101> does anyone know how to get the sound to work on a Dell Studio 17 laptop....?????????????????
[22:52] <void___> Slart: I just want to know if it uses standard "vesa" or not.
[22:52] <guirlache> Hello
[22:52] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: try that.
[22:52] <Dextorion> jdsbluedevl: i find it hard to belive it has something to do with the cable
[22:52] <HorizonXP> jrib: that stinks, i just spent my download bandwidth for nothing then
[22:52] <nekostar> meh i dont see the one liner
[22:52] <Slart> void___: check the file /var/log/xorg.0.log
[22:52] <void___> thx will see
[22:52] <jrib> HorizonXP: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[22:52] <nekostar> b3lorixx yeah just use jockey-gtk and select one of the two older nvidia drivers
[22:52] <Slart> void___: I think it will tell you what driver it's using.. and mode etc etc
[22:52] <nekostar> i think theres a 7x and a 9x
[22:52] <HorizonXP> jrib: yes I do
[22:53] <b3lorixx> necko-star: what is jokygtk
[22:53] <Exposure101> does anyone else have any sound issues with the 8.10 release?
[22:53] <Caesi> Hullo again :) sb any idea where those wallpapers are? :)
[22:53] <nekostar> b3lorixx that's the bit that lets you select the restricted vid driver's
[22:53] <jdsbluedevl> ok, booting off 7.10 Live CD right now
[22:53] <guirlache> I have a question. Can I upgrade a hardy wubi installation to intrepid?
[22:53] <jrib> HorizonXP: well you can use !clone (and some poking if packages have been renamed), do a fresh install, and then just setup your /home again
[22:53] <nekostar> in terminal run: jockey-gtk
[22:53] <noclueguy> @Exposure101 Yes me
[22:53] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: 7.10 ??? wtf?
[22:53] <Thedjatclubrock> Wil RC update to Full Release?
[22:53] <HorizonXP> !clone
[22:53] <jrib> !final | Thedjatclubrock
[22:53] <Exposure101> noclueguy: im guessing we are in the same boat then....noting your name
[22:53] <jdsbluedevl> hey, it's the only Live CD I could find right now
[22:54] <wers> i'm burning intrepid with 3x speed. is that _too_ safe? haha
[22:54] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ok let us know how it goes.
[22:54] <Exposure101> HELP!?!?! need help with fixing sound on Dell studio 17 laptop.... :(
[22:54] <b3lorixx> nekostar: ive tryed using that when i click activate it doesnt sem to work
[22:54] <runemaste644>  I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong?
[22:54] <nekostar> wers no such thing lol
[22:54] <MonkeyMan> So is the new system cool or what? Mine is installing. Can't wait :)
[22:54] <Poldie> wers: i burnt at 2x just in case!
[22:54] <jrib> HorizonXP: you should have a pretty comparable result to upgrading then (ie the apps you have installed now will be installed still).  If you have any other custom stuff outside of /home, then you need to back that up of course
[22:54] <wers> hehe
[22:54] <lazukars_> yo
[22:54] <nekostar> b3lorixx ah.. try installing via synaptic
[22:54] <Poldie> wers: only going to install it once so it has to wokr!
[22:54] <noclueguy> @Exposure. I don't know the former versions always installed pretty smooth
[22:54] <wers> there's no 2x in brasero
[22:54] <HorizonXP> !automate
[22:54] <wers> just 1x or 3x. hehe
[22:54] <fuje> wers, burn on max speed and do the medium check. I dare not skip that check anyways :P
[22:55] <b3lorixx> neckostar: ok ill try
[22:55] <thomc> Ubuntu does not recognize my sound device?
[22:55] <noclueguy> @Exposure what's your problem then?
[22:55] <nekostar> b3lorixx actually do this in a terminal:
[22:55] <Gerinych> did anyone update their ubuntu with an update manager
[22:55] <runemaste644> the terminal says "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and it's stuck on that
[22:55] <Exposure101> yeah i know 7.10 works fine on my desktop......but the sound doesn't work at all on my laptop
[22:55] <jrib> Gerinych: many
[22:55] <jarco> does anyone know the name of the effect where unselected windows jump behind the one you select?
[22:55] <wers> fuje, makes sense :)
[22:55] <egosintrick> #ubuntu-release-party!
[22:55] <nekostar> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-96
[22:55] <HorizonXP> jrib: i think that'll work. i can't think of anything outside of /home that i need. thanks!
[22:55] <philippe_> Hi. I am experiencing tearing with metacity in Ubuntu 8.10, as if it is not vsync enabled. I have a Nvidia 7800 GTX with proprietary driver 177 installed. What is wrong? --> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3341/captureib6.jpg
[22:55] <jrib> jarco: try #compiz-fusion
[22:55] <Exposure101> noclueguy:  the drivers are recognized...it recognizes the hardware ....but no sound at all............
[22:55] <Gerinych> jrib, mine's kinda stuck on downloading packages
[22:55] <egosintrick> in communist russia, party releases YOU!
[22:55] <nekostar> b3lorixx then you will need to run after it's all in, if jockey-gtk will not select it:
[22:55] <csilk> egosintrick, that link to the ubuntu party has an exclamation mark on the end therefore as a hotlink it fials
[22:56] <TigranG> Hi. My laptop's cd drive can read blank CD-R's and write to them. I wrote the ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 ISO's to blank CD-R's and when I boot to it after choosing to install ubuntu nothing happens.
[22:56] <csilk> *fails
[22:56] <jrib> Gerinych: the servers are getting hammered.  Tried using a local mirror?
[22:56] <nekostar> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:56] <fmer> PLEASE, can someone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892
[22:56] <egosintrick> lol sorry i was not actually linking
[22:56] <csilk> lol
[22:56] <hahalla> as for php and mysql, is ubuntu far better and faster than xp on this area, and uses less ram?
[22:56] <dimedo> sybariten, i just noticed that the system is using the ati driver not the fglrx. but if i try to setuo this up and press the test button, it tells me that the test failed.
[22:56] <Gerinych> jrib how do i use a different mirror
[22:56] <fmer> PLEASE, can someone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892 :/ I really need help
[22:56] <nekostar> fmer dont repeat
[22:56] <jrib> TigranG: did you try "check the cd for defects" from the CD's boot menu?
[22:56] <fmer> sorry
[22:56] <acemo> When booting the kubunt 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what can i do to get past that?
[22:56] <jdsbluedevl> on live CD, resolution is good
[22:56] <strategy> hahalla, those just run better on Linux than windows. Trying to use PHP and MySQL on windows is like trying to eat a car.
[22:56] <jdsbluedevl> so now what?
[22:56] <nekostar> fmer ubu forums is loaded what's the actual problem?
[22:57] <nekostar> oh wait
[22:57] <guirlache> Can I upgrade a hardy wubi installation to intrepid?
[22:57] <nekostar>  Angry  Wubi doesn't install fully! - Need help!!
[22:57] <jrib> Gerinych: if it's still in the download phase, it's safe to cancel.  Then go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and choose a mirror there.  Then resume your upgrade
[22:57] <fmer> yes
[22:57] <noclueguy> Exposure101: Try to go to the soundpreferences and have some fun with the options there. Like use oss in place of alsa. Maybe you get lucky and happy.
[22:57] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: resolution on Live CD is good
[22:57] <jdsbluedevl> now what?
[22:57] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: as i suspected...
[22:58] <runemaste644>  I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong? I really need help
[22:58] <TigranG> jrib: it doesnt go into it, i can hear the CD drive reading the CD but nothing happens
[22:58] <MonkeyMan> Installation doing clean up. Wont be long now.
[22:58] <Gerinych> jrib alright, thanks
[22:58] <rdakin> I'm trying to install cmemcache on my Hardy box, but setup.py can't find python.h - it doesn't look like it's anywhere on my box... any suggestions on making this work? do I need to re-install python from source (rather than aptitude) to keep the headers around?
[22:58] <bungieQord> how do you save your progress and quit in vi?
[22:58] <AlabamaHit> Hi, Anyone else having trouble with Synaptic Package Manager. Its working but very slow. Its taking along time to download the packages..Just wondering if anyone else has this happening...?
[22:58] <plavcik> new X.org is not working well with sis driver, workarround is swithc to vedsa
[22:58] <nekostar> fmer i dont know wubi very well, however someone if yall know help this poor sod
[22:58] <nekostar> ^^
[22:58] <fmer> okay then
[22:58] <nekostar> srry fmer
[22:58] <jrib> TigranG: but you do get to the menu that lists "install ubuntu" and "check the CD for defects"?
[22:58] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: seems like servers are slammed for the repos, so I can't update anything
[22:58] <TigranG> jrib: yes
[22:58] <egosintrick> fmer I had that problem with the last release probably you just need to burn it again
[22:58] <void___> bungieQord: :wq
[22:58] <dowdle> Greetings.  I'd like to build a new OS Template for Ubuntu 8.10 for OpenVZ... by creating an Ubuntu 8.04 container and upgrading it.  The Ubuntu site has a webpage on how to do the upgrade over the network but it shows doing the config change via the GUI software update program.  I don't have the ability to run the GUI program to change the config.  How can I manually edit the config files for the upgrade?
[22:58] <jdsbluedevl> and I'm not sure if I can do it from the Live CD
[22:58] <fmer> oh
[22:58] <jrib> TigranG: check the md5sum for your .iso and burn at 2x
[22:58] <inktri> hey guys is it possible to install 8.10 witha  usb key??!
[22:58] <csilk> jdsbluedevl, that's odd, I'm getting at least 450kb from the repos
[22:58] <jrib> !install | inktri
[22:58] <fmer> egosintrick: will i need to download it again, or burn it again?
[22:58] <Exposure101> noclueguy: ive tried all that and everything else i can think of...im pretty good with computers....and can usually figure stuff out...this makes me wanna break my new laptop
[22:59] <Slart> AlabamaHit: might just be all the people trying to upgrade at the same time.. select another mirror and see if it improves
[22:59] <chamuscas> hello, i need to reinstall ubuntu in someway, can anyone tell me how can i work out it ?
[22:59] <carpeliam> just tried installing ubuntu alongside windows, i can't boot into any OS it seems. :( i get "Error 18" in Grub. i THINK it might be because i installed ubuntu onto a different HD than Windows, could that be right?
[22:59] <LF|Irssi> AlabamaHit: the servers are being hammered right now cause of the new release, just keep trying or what slart said
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> well, what can I do now?
[22:59] <MonkeyMan> Gonna do a virtual machine with 8.10 using vmware workstation on laptop after desktop upgrade finishes.
[22:59] <Tetracomm-live> Hello.
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> just reboot into 640x480 hell and updte there?
[22:59] <chamuscas> jrib, ist that for me :p
[22:59] <Paulrf> I have a question on upgrade video issue when someone has time
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> *update
[22:59] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ... sounds like when your video cable became "screwy", ubuntu couldn't properly detect the settings for your monitor & set your system for 640x480.
[22:59] <AlabamaHit> Slart: its not the Update, or download of 8.10, i have it im just trying to install my programs.
[22:59] <MonkeyMan> Wanna test it so bad I can taste it.
[22:59] <noclueguy> @inktri. Thin you find a package on the server where you can download the isos.
[23:00] <TigranG> jrib: i did check the md5, did not burn that slow. I'm redownloading the ISO right now. I just foramtted my windows drive where I saved it on accident from ubuntu trying to format a flash drive. I'm still kicking myself in the face about that. I'll bb a bit later to tell you if it worked or not. Thanks.
[23:00] <Slart> AlabamaHit: are you installing from the repos?
[23:00] <AlabamaHit> Slart: how do i changed a server on Synaptic, Sorry, I misunderstood.
[23:00] <ylan> Hi everyone... I have Xubuntu 8.04 installed. I want to end up with Ubuntu 8.10. Can I do this with the alternate cd for ubuntu 8.10?
[23:00] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: can you repeat that?  I might have accidentally closed that window
[23:00] <Slart> AlabamaHit: search for "software sources" or repositories
[23:00] <AlabamaHit> slart, im just installing, stuff like LAMP, acid rip and gftp and all that
[23:00] <Tetracomm-live> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 with the live cd and the partitioner only shows me a blank screen where there should be a list of the partitions, but gparted shows me a list of them, help?
[23:00] <jrib> chamuscas: well you can just install again the same way you did the first time, no?
[23:00] <kios> ciao
[23:00] <tovella> jdsbluedevl:  ... sounds like when your video cable became "screwy", ubuntu couldn't properly detect the settings for your monitor & set your system for 640x480.
[23:01] <AlabamaHit> Slart, Thanks :)
[23:01] <criminy> aah. I can't believe it was only six months ago that I came in here to a swamped room fool of excited ubuntu 8.04 users.
[23:01] <Paulrf> Upgraded ubuntu and now Intel GV910GL video not working properly... any ideas?
[23:01] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: so, what do I do?
[23:01] <carpeliam> if grub is botched, how do i get back to being able to boot into an OS so i can actually fix things?
[23:01] <tilde> is it possible to have 2 mouse cursors in ubuntu?
[23:01] <raevol> jrib done installing nvidia-glx-177 and got a new mirror so this will go faster
[23:01] <jdsbluedevl> is there a way to adjust through the Live CD?
[23:01] <ceafu> hey al. gonna be busy here, but wondering if anyone knows how to configure touchpad with 8.10  I am looking for a simple 2 finger tap for right click
[23:01] <Slart> AlabamaHit: you're welcome.. if you're close to sweden, try one of our servers.. I'm getting 1080 kB/s from the one I'm using
[23:01] <chamuscas> jrib, you know the problem is that some essential skins an basic files of ubuntu are missing and don't ask why =P, and i want to reinstall them but i just don't know which are the files
[23:01] <AlabamaHit> slart, I'm from USA...i will find close one, Thanks again :0
[23:01] <jrib> raevol: k.  What does 'sudo modprobe nvidia' do for you now?
[23:01] <LF|Irssi> Is webmin still "broke" in ubuntu? i cant get bacula module to work for anything, i dont want to use ebox or w/e its called, just tell me if its still broke or not please :)  thanks
[23:02] <WelshDragon> tilde, http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/
[23:02] <raevol> jrib same fatal module not found
[23:02] <hspaans> was webmin ever working?
[23:02] <jrib> chamuscas: so you don't want to reinstall all of ubuntu, just some packages?
[23:02] <mker> I know there's some "famous" pastebin-app in KDE, anyone know what the Gnome app is called?
[23:02] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: what you can do is restore from a previous version of your xorg.conf file.
[23:02] <Slart> LF|Irssi: I use it on my server.. I've heard many people say it's broken on ubuntu..
[23:02] <Slart> LF|Irssi: but I just can't stand the alternatives
[23:02] <jrib> raevol: erm :/  Are you positive all the packages got purged before?
[23:02] <tilde> welsh dragon
[23:02] <tilde> 18 cursors at once
[23:02] <tilde> this is sooo tihgt
[23:02] <tilde> tight*&
[23:02] <FloodBot3> tilde: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <acemo> When booting the kubunt 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what can i do to get past that?
[23:02] <raevol> jrib as far as i know
[23:02] <fmer> Can anybody help with this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892 - will re-burning the iso help?
[23:03] <Slart> acemo: it might be hanging on whatever it's trying to do after checking the battery
[23:03] <tilde> fmer always burn at the lowest speed
[23:03] <fmer> okay
[23:03] <chamuscas> jrib, right i want to install the basic files that come with ubuntu, can i make my self clear ?
[23:03] <LF|Irssi> slart , sigh. ok i hope ubuntu or webmin fixes the issues soon, until then i guess its all about command line
[23:03] <tilde> fmer let wubi download the iso
[23:03] <AlabamaHit> Has the Flasth and Java in 64Bit working Right? or should i just stick to 32bit? got a 2.2gig processor and 3 Gig of Ram...Don't know fi 64 bit would be a big difference, what yall think?
[23:03] <Slart> LF|Irssi: hehe.. yea.. have you tried that other one.. the one that's designed for ubuntu?
[23:03] <fmer> tilde: I have limited bandwidth i can use, and 700mb for one day would be enough :/
[23:03] <Slart> !webmin
[23:03] <acemo> Slart: yeah.. probably, but what would be the next thing its doing?
[23:04] <jrib> chamuscas: you need to figure out exactly what packages you want to reinstall.  Then you can do that with: sudo apt-get --reinstall install PACKAGE
[23:04] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: where can I find an old version of my xorg.conf file?
[23:04] <jdsbluedevl> or should I just delete it and let Ubuntu create a new one?
[23:04] <Slart> LF|Irssi: ebox.. that was it
[23:04] <LF|Irssi> na, i dont have any desire to try the alternatives either Slart
[23:04] <acemo> !ebox
[23:04] <tilde> fmer wubi wasnt all that reliable for me anyways. a graphics card update crashed and deleted my ubuntu/windows xp dual boot for some reason
[23:04] <mker> AlabamaHit: I don't think amd64 will give you anything you don't have. I use it but I don't like flash, and it doesn't give me anything 32bit doesn't have either :)
[23:04] <PassionFRUI7E> jdsbluedevl:  Any modified extension is an automatic backup
[23:04] <tilde> but it left grub for some reason
[23:04] <chamuscas> jrib, i'll try that but tanks in ahead
[23:04] <inktri> i've got an 8.04 live cd and the 8.10 iso file but not CD's... what can i do?
[23:04] <fmer> oh
[23:04] <Slart> acemo: I have no idea..
[23:04] <jrib> raevol: alright, purge again, we'll check this time
[23:04] <PassionFRUI7E> 64 Bit is speedy.  I love it.
[23:04] <acemo> Slart: great, me neither :)
[23:04] <tilde> yeah dont use wubi, live cd install, its WAY more reliable/faster
[23:05] <Wavesonics> hey
[23:05] <tilde> hey
[23:05] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ubuntu should have made a backup in /etc/X11... use the command
[23:05] <tovella> ls /etc/X11/xorg*
[23:05] <tovella> to see the versions that are there.
[23:05] <markw_> hey hey hey...
[23:05] <Wavesonics> can I take a partition which my / (not /boot) is installed to, and make it an encrypted partition?
[23:05] <raevol> jrib apt-get --purge remove nvidia* done, what now?
[23:06] <shamus> is this some kind of new feature where I need to pay for the VC1 codec support?
[23:06] <jrib> raevol: the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic package.  Then pastebin: dpkg -l '*nvidia*'
[23:06] <nikolajsheller1> :( Unable to get macboot to boot into intrepid
[23:06] <PassionFRUI7E> A good trick to open your own backups (ending in only .conf, the automation adds more) do gedit /etc/X11/*.conf
[23:07] <carpeliam> is there a way to edit the bootloader if grub won't boot into any OS? i'm really in a pickle :(
[23:07] <markw_> PassionFRUI7E: I prefer vim. :)
[23:07] <Palomides> how do I get the UUID an HD I just added to my computer?
[23:07] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong?
[23:07] <raevol> jrib that linux restricted one isnt installed
[23:07] <PassionFRUI7E> I never touched VIM.  I'll try it.
[23:07] <Gnea> !grub | carpeliam
[23:07] <Slart> carpeliam: you should be able to edit the grub boot options in the grub menu
[23:07] <jrib> !uuid | Palomides
[23:07] <DasEi1> carpeliam:for a idea:
[23:07] <Gnea> carpeliam: 2nd url :)
[23:07] <DasEi1> !grub
[23:07] <Palomides> jrib: ty
[23:07] <jrib> raevol: ok, I'm working on knowledge from hardy, so it's probably different now
[23:07] <dream3n> chaps, is anyone here using eclipse&&CVS?
[23:08] <b3lorixx> nekostar: that didnt work
[23:08] <DasEi1> carpeliam:you could check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:08] <speedy> what do i do when i get W: GPG error: http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> ?
[23:08] <b3lorixx> neckstar: i get a error
[23:08] <tarelerulz> I am using gparted .  I have /dev/sda1 is where my main stuf /din , /ect/ , /home and so on .  I have an extened partion  then have my swap in it.    How would I make more space to I can make new partition ?
[23:08] <AlabamaHit> slart, i clicked for it to select the Best Repo for me...and it picked one...i reloaded and getting 2mbs now..Thanks.....Question though....Are they ALL the same? or do i need to go back to what came orignally?
[23:08] <raevol> jrib im not sure, i never installed that package ater removing it
[23:08] <carpeliam> Slart, i don't DasEi1 how do i check that if i can't boot into an OS :/
[23:08] <Gnea> DasEi1: s/he can't boot to it
[23:08] <carpeliam> err
[23:08] <Purity> hey guy can anyone help me wit thid error while burning dvd
[23:08] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc
[23:08] <Slart> AlabamaHit: in a perfect world all the mirrors are the same.. fortunately they are the same most of the time in the normal world too =)
[23:09] <DasEi1> carpeliam: see the !grub triiger to use a live cd
[23:09] <Slart> AlabamaHit: I don't think you'll have to go back to using the original servers, no
[23:09] <DasEi1> !grub
[23:09] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc
[23:09] <TuxSympathiser> Purity, what kind of error?
[23:09] <PassionFRUI7E> This update speed is rediculous lol.
[23:09] <tilde> archive.ubuntu.com downloading is slow
[23:09] <Slart> carpeliam: when you boot your computer you either get a grub menu.. or you get some kind of "press f2 for grub menu"
[23:09] <Gnea> carpeliam: are you getting some sort of error message?
[23:10] <TuxSympathiser> PassionFRUI7E, erm maybe a lot of people are using the same server to update?
[23:10] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc dvd
[23:10] <jrib> raevol: that's fine, just psatebin that dpkg command
[23:10] <Purity> on a light scribe dvd drive
[23:10] <PassionFRUI7E> Imagine everyone running windows downloading 2 gigs at the same time on the same server.
[23:10] <AlabamaHit> Slart, thanks man...Its nice speeds now, I just let it choose best for me, then clicked to select it and reloaded :) now 2mbs going to have my software done in no time now.
[23:10] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, what speed you getting?
[23:10] <Gnea> Purity: is the md5sum of the .iso correct?
[23:10] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong? I REALLY need help
[23:10] <jdsbluedevl> crap, I moved an old xorg.conf file to default, restarted X server, and now I get "1: analog input Cannot Display This Video Mode"
[23:10] <PassionFRUI7E> I know it should be slow, I just think it's cool how official ubuntu is.  50 kb/s.
[23:10] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64862
[23:10] <speedy> what do i do when i get W: GPG error: http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> ?
[23:10] <Purity> whats thet
[23:10] <carpeliam> Slart, I'm not getting a menu, i'm getting an error :( Gnea, "Error 18". my guess is this is because I installed ubuntu on a different physical disk than the boot disk
[23:10] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E,  lol I'm getting 450kb, about half what i usually get
[23:10] <jNoxx> hi 2 all
[23:11] <Purity> and how do you pst somone
[23:11] <Slart> AlabamaHit: yup.. the sweet advantages of not using the same servers as the rest of the horde
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I normally download about...600-800 KB/s
[23:11] <sergei> hey guys hows everybody
[23:11] <sergei> ?
[23:11] <jNoxx> I have a ptoblem
[23:11] <sergei> I'm having downloading problems with the new ubuntu
[23:11] <jNoxx> problem*
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I just got normal hi-cable.
[23:11] <jdsbluedevl> if I get it again, I'll have to delete the xorg.conf fie and let Ubuntu re-create it
[23:11] <Gnea> carpeliam: one moment
[23:11] <carpeliam> i'm not sure if anybody could confirm, what happens when you install ubuntu on a different physical disk than the boot disk?
[23:11] <jrib> raevol: purge nvidia-glx-new
[23:11] <Slart> carpeliam: sounds correct... not sure if that keeps the grub menu from showing.. but you might have to reinstall grub entirely
[23:11] <jNoxx> my radeon hd 3470 kills me
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I got an hd3200
[23:11] <jNoxx> I can not install any drivers
[23:11] <AlabamaHit> Everyone if your downloading Slow...change your Repo your downloading from.
[23:11] <raevol> jrib apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-new says its already removed
[23:11] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: did you see different versions?
[23:11] <DasEi1>  sergei: downloading the installer ?
[23:11] <TuxSympathiser> PassionFRUI7E, It must be annoying having slow download speeds when paying so much for a service/ product
[23:12] <tilde> can someone help me build icewm-1.2.13?
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> How you change where you dl from?
[23:12] <sergei> what repo do we change to?>
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes, I did sudo mv backup.file default.file
[23:12] <chamuscas> jrib, one more thing when i'm programing in c , the compiler doesn't recognise the *, +, /, % -
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> damn, got it again
[23:12] <jNoxx> It is really bad(
[23:12] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: system, software sources.. there's a menu option in synaptic too..
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> If anyone thinks im complaining im not, lol.  Its my third day in ubuntu and I like it.
[23:12] <jNoxx> I can not install any linux
[23:12] <jrib> raevol: k, well shouldn't matter anyway because it is old.  Install nvidia-glx-177 and pastebin all the output you get
[23:12] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: sorry.. system, administration, software sources
[23:12] <jNoxx> Who can help me with my radeon hd3470 please pm me
[23:12] <Gerinych> how do you change the server for updates
[23:12] <jrib> chamuscas: pastebin your source code and your terminal session
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> I got it.  Thank you slart.
[23:12] <sergei> any help on the repo change?
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> ok, now dropping into Ctrl-Alt-F1 mode and going to delete that demon of a file
[23:13] <jrib> Gerinych: system -> administration -> software sources
[23:13] <mikanov> does ubuntu run nicely in pIII
[23:13] <mikanov> ?
[23:13] <Gerinych> jrib, i tried that but it always goes back to the main server
[23:13] <DrX> anyway to undo a chmod or at least restore OS file & folder permissions?
[23:13] <epifanio> hi, i'm on ubuntu 8.04 on a macbook pro ... i'm having problem to know "how to" set the kerboyard to have the "at" key,  have you any suggestion about ?
[23:13] <jNoxx> ubuntu 8.10 nice
[23:13] <sergei> thank you
[23:13] <Slart> mikanov: you can try xubuntu if you feel the regular ubuntu is a bit slow
[23:13] <PassionFRUI7E> I changed it to united states.  How I update the download?
[23:13] <raevol> jrib just purged it with synaptic, got rid of it in the dpkg -l output. installing nvidia-glx-177 now
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> system, administration, software sources
[23:13] <jrib> DrX: not really
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: click Reload
[23:13] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: it will tell you to update when you click ok
[23:13] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: how many backup files did you see?  they should have had dates & times as part of the file names.
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> opps
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> sorry
[23:14] <jNoxx> How i can install drivers for my videocard, pleasee, help
[23:14] <PassionFRUI7E> I see no reload?
[23:14] <jrib> Gerinych: that really shouldn't be happening, but you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you wish
[23:14] <jNoxx> No results
[23:14] <jdsbluedevl> a LOT of backup files
[23:14] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: sorry, though you changed it in Sypantic.
[23:14] <Gnea> carpeliam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77042 and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 explain what it means
[23:14] <scientes> what buses is it safe to change via hibernate change boot
[23:14] <jNoxx> every day i try to install it, but no results
[23:14] <jrib> jNoxx: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[23:14] <DrX> jrib: even manually?
[23:14] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64864
[23:14] <Gnea> carpeliam: did this error happen the first time you booted up ubuntu or did it work before?
[23:14] <chamuscas> jrib, can you be more specific sry =/
[23:14] <noclueguy> Hi guys. Does anyone expierience a kernel panic if he tries to install ubuntu 8.1 from the live CD? It gets to the screen where you're asked for your timezone and then the system hangs. Scroll- and Numlock blinks. The resolution is brillant. Don't know where I could point it at. It ran perfect with 8.04...
[23:14] <jNoxx> I can not startx
[23:14] <scientes> cause linux supports alot of hotlug capibilities
[23:14] <jdsbluedevl> I move one, it screws things up even more
[23:14] <sergei> if i edit sources.list what repo should I add or change to?
[23:14] <jNoxx> only black screen
[23:14] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: when you find one click Choose Server
[23:14] <jrib> DrX: well of course you can just chmod it to what ever you want
[23:14] <sergei> or via software sources
[23:15] <HtheB> damn... I dont have sound anymore since I updated to 8.10 :(
[23:15] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: you would want to use the one that corresponds to the date and time it worked at the resolution you want.
[23:15] <speedy> i'm not being able to upgrade, getting W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:15] <icqnumber> sergei, if you want to download something very fast, then go for a metalink file, aria2c -M <url of the metalink file>
[23:15] <icqnumber> for example
[23:15] <jdsbluedevl> btw, does anyone know whether the us.archive.ubuntu.com server is being slammed right now?
[23:15] <csilk> noclueguy, did you check the integrity of the iso?
[23:15] <jNoxx> Who have ATI cards?
[23:15] <jrib> chamuscas: I assume you tried to compile something to come to the conclusion about the C compiler before?  Show us what you tried to compile and the commands you ran along with their output on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <jNoxx> hd series?
[23:15] <b3lorixx> I ahve a Nvida GeForce 6150 LD and i cant get it to install teh restricted Driver. Hopw do i fix this?
[23:15] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: i have a ATI Radeon
[23:15] <corelogik> I don't like upgrading as often,... I'll be sticking with LTS releases for a while
[23:15] <paul__> Is anybody a Wine user?, I am trying to find a way to run Photoshop CS off of my Ubuntu desktop instead of browsing to Wine/C: drive
[23:15] <PassionFRUI7E> I selected a server.  Now what?
[23:15] <PassionFRUI7E> 28.8 KB/s...
[23:15] <csilk> jNoxx, I do
[23:15] <chamuscas> jrib, tank you :)
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: in sypantic, click reload.
[23:16] <tilde> downloading stuff through synaptic takes a while
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> and run again
[23:16] <carpeliam> Gnea, i got this after installing
[23:16] <noclueguy> csilk:Yea. I checked the integrity of the disc from the live cd and I even ran the memory test.
[23:16] <sergei> thats confusing, what metalink file?
[23:16] <jNoxx> I have hd3470
[23:16] <scientes> corelogik, yeah im going to update my desktop but not anything else
[23:16] <jNoxx> Problem
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: if its still slow,, Chose a Different server...
[23:16] <jNoxx> Who can help, please pm
[23:16] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong? I REALLY need help. I have a screenshot here: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4508/screenshotqx1.png
[23:16] <csilk> jNoxx, i have 2400HD
[23:16] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: yes, it was being slammed a couple of hours ago, and probably will be for the next day or so.
[23:16] <PassionFRUI7E> I got an error when I clicked reload after close after selecting a server.
[23:16] <csilk> noclueguy,  in that case I can't suggest anything else, sorry
[23:16] <andrew_> why does an upgrade from the alternative install disc never work
[23:16] <PassionFRUI7E> Do I have to cancel distro upgrade first?
[23:16] <jrib> runemaste644: let it work
[23:16] <sergei> is there a wiki or web site for info?
[23:16] <noclueguy> don't mind. You tried :-)
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: did you enable it in System ->admintrastion -> hardware drivers?
[23:17] <acemo> When booting the 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what should be the next thing it tries to do after checking battery state (even though my desktop pc doesn't has a battery)
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[23:17] <tilde> use 8.04
[23:17] <Tetracomm-live> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 with the live cd and the partitioner only shows me a blank screen where there should be a list of the partitions, but gparted shows me a list of them, help?
[23:17] <jNoxx> I can not launck x-server
[23:17] <raevol> jrib, do i need my headers?
[23:17] <Gerinych> jrib k i think i got it working
[23:17] <CShadowRun> Is there any way for me to downgrade back to hardy heron from intrepid ibex?
[23:17] <runemaste644> jrib: it is taking an incredibly long time
[23:17] <jrib> raevol: apt-get will install them automatically
[23:17] <csilk> Technoviking, sata hard disks?
[23:17] <tilde> can someone help me install icewm?
[23:17] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: so did you get the right xorg.conf file?
[23:17] <jrib> CShadowRun: no
[23:17] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: it could be just because of server lag...
[23:17] <Thedjatclubrock> Is there a way to make the Mac keys not need Fn by default
[23:17] <raevol> jrib did you see my apt-get ouput? http://paste.ubuntu.com/64848
[23:17] <jNoxx> apt-get install not helps
[23:17] <CShadowRun> jrlb dam...guess i'm gonna have to reload then, this is messed up lol
[23:18] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: not yet, I'm trying to update the kernel first, slammed server and all
[23:18] <bungieQord> I'm making a bash shell script. I want it to display my current directory but "My current directory is: " pwd is displaying "My current directory is: pwd" when I run it.. What am I doing wrong?
[23:18] <jrib> tilde: install the icewm package.  For example with apt-get: sudo apt-get install icewm
[23:18] <alcockell> Yow!  Looks as though that's 3 kernel updates that have caused hassles...
[23:18] <runemaste644> if it was going to work it would be finished
[23:18] <jrib> bungieQord: $(pwd)
[23:18] <tilde> thank you
[23:18] <carpeliam> Gnea, the confusing thing about this message is that my machine isn't that old, and it booted off a pretty large windows partition without a problem
[23:18] <tilde> compiling stuff SUCKS
[23:18] <bungieQord> jrib, thanks
[23:18] <PassionFRUI7E> *Unable to get exclusive lock*
[23:18] <tilde> once i have the proper packages it should be easy
[23:18] <CShadowRun> alcockell yup, this one broke my webcam and keyboard.
[23:18] <jrib> raevol: that's aptitude search
[23:18] <Gnea> carpeliam: perhaps it has to do with the way that you partitioned it. is windows on the first primary partition?
[23:18] <DrX> there's no "repair" option to fix tweaked permissions?
[23:19] <techsupport> how can i mount an NTFS drive using terminal permanently ?
[23:19] <DrX> (i mean, even Windows has that!)
[23:19] <raevol> jrib woops: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64864
[23:19] <jrib> DrX: what exactly did you mess up?
[23:19] <tilde> apt-get is slow today
[23:19] <Gnea> !ntfs-3g | techsupport
[23:19] <Tetracomm-live> This is urgent. :(
[23:19] <DrX> jrib: someone told me to do a chmod 777, so it did the whole drive  :*(
[23:19] <jrib> raevol: well see, we have some errors there!
[23:19] <tsrk> Does virtualbox work out of the box with ubuntu 64bit?
[23:19] <dimedo> please help, i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration.
[23:19] <tsrk> Last time I tried I think I ran into some problem, but that was a while ago
[23:19] <carpeliam> Gnea, yep. windows is on disk1, first partition, and this is the boot partition. ubuntu is on disk0, at the end of the physical disk
[23:19] <jrib> DrX: reinstall.  It will be the fastest solution
[23:19] <DrX> jrib: now it's hosed  :(
[23:19] <raevol> jrib yus :[
[23:19] <andrew_> GAH
[23:20] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: well, when you get the right file in place, all you should have to do is restart your x-session.  are you updating the kernel from an x-session or from a terminal session (ctrl-alt-f1)?
[23:20] <Gnea> Tetracomm-live: well, we're volunteers, so you're going to have to repeat your question every 5 minutes or so until someone asnwers.
[23:20] <spazm> what is a good ftp fxp-client for ubuntu? console...
[23:20] <andrew_> I have yet to have an ubuntu version where the alt cd upgrade works
[23:20] <carpeliam> (Gnea, at least windows calls them disk1 and disk0, not sure what the linux equivalent would be)
[23:20] <DrX> jrib: can't, it's a complex installation, too time consuming
[23:20] <csilk> anyone using the ati catalyst control center?
[23:20] <DrX> jrib: no way to copy the permissions to a file from another OS and then put them back in this OS?
[23:20] <Tetracomm-live> There are no partitions in the partitions list, as if it didn't detect any.
[23:20] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: terminal session, I couldn't get an X session displayed before on my monitor
[23:20] <dimedo> tsrk, for me, it does, with the generic kernel modules
[23:20] <DasEi1>  csilk:on hardy, yes
[23:20] <jrib> raevol: do you have linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic installed?
[23:20] <tsrk> dimedo, do you have to do anything special to install them?
[23:20] <dimedo> tsrk, but i'm using hardy not intrepid
[23:21] <Thedjatclubrock> !mac
[23:21] <acemo> When booting the 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what should be the next thing it tries to do after checking battery state? (even though my desktop pc doesn't has a battery)
[23:21] <raevol> jrib no should i get it?
[23:21] <fer> error 13 during my instalation
[23:21] <HtheB> does anyone have problems with sound on 8.10????
[23:21] <Thedjatclubrock> !mac > Thedjatclubrock
[23:21] <fer> can anybody help me
[23:21] <fer> ?
[23:21] <spazm> what is a good ftp fxp-client for ubuntu? console...
[23:21] <csilk> DasEi1, yeah I'm looking for someone who uses it on intrepid
[23:21] <noclueguy> with what fer?
[23:21] <Gnea> carpeliam: okay, there seems to be some translation error :)  how many *physical* hard drives do you have installed? 1 or 2?
[23:21] <PassionFRUI7E> There we go, 400 KB/s
[23:21] <dimedo> tsrk, you have to add yourself to the vboxusers group and install virtualbox-ose-modules-generic package
[23:21] <raevol> jrib should i get that and should i get the restricted modules for my kernel too? they're not isntalled
[23:21] <jrib> DrX: yes, 'man chmod'.  Look for "--reference".  Much easier to reinstall imo
[23:21] <tsrk> ok, thanks
[23:21] <javier> wenax
[23:21] <jrib> raevol: won't hurt I guess
[23:21] <Serraphyn> Odd question possible, anyone know if its possible to use windows XP printer drivers in ubuntu?
[23:21] <carpeliam> Gnea, i have two
[23:22] <sanguisdex> merggggsk! the upgraded just uninstalled my open office 3 and reinstalled 2.4
[23:22] <javier> hi
[23:22] <Slart> Serraphyn: don't think so
[23:22] <prower> Hello :> I am running intrepid, I've noticed an odd problem with the cd/dvd burner i have...if i eject a disc the drive immediately opens and closes
[23:22] <Thedjatclubrock> Where is the mac page on /community/ (MacBook Pro)
[23:22] <ceafu> anyone know where the input devices config file is kept for 8.10?
[23:22] <icqnumber> sergei, see on the wikipedia, what metalink file is... you can find this files on http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/, you can use an application aria2c, it download simultaneous from all mirrors and checks mdsums
[23:22] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: would an old xorg.conf file work for a new monitor?
[23:22] <Gnea> carpeliam: aaaah.... so you installed windows on the first one (disk0) and ubuntu on the second one (disk1)?
[23:22] <dimedo> tsrk, but you can only simulate 32 bit machines. at least i don't know how do use 64
[23:22] <PassionFRUI7E> whats the terminal command to update to 8.1?
[23:22] <jrib> ceafu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  A lot of it is done with hotplug now though
[23:22] <jrib> !upgrade > PassionFRUI7E
[23:22] <Slart> Serraphyn: but I'm not 100% sure it can't be done with wine or ndiswrapper or something like that
[23:22] <Serraphyn> Slart, if I could get this lexmark 8350 printer to work with linux I'd have my entire office converted
[23:22] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: i thought you only changed the video cable?
[23:23] <Tetracomm-live> Restarting
[23:23] <raevol> jrib once this is done, reinstall nvidia-glx-177?
[23:23] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: no, this is with new monitor
[23:23] <jrib> raevol: yeah.  If it fails, try purging first
[23:23] <Mal3ko> how do i upgrade to 8.10 from iso? im in 8.04 right now
[23:23] <Slart> Serraphyn: ah.. lexmark.. say no more..
[23:23] <DasEi1>  csilk:haven't tried on the release candidate yet, but the before's betta didnt allow neither nvidia nor ati propitary drivers
[23:23] <jrib> !upgrade > Mal3ko
[23:23] <jdsbluedevl> but with new monitor+defective cable, resolution was ok
[23:23] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: is it the same model of monitor as before?
[23:23] <Madpilot> Serraphyn, Lexmark printers are troublesome. Linux support from Lexmark sucks...
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Slart, isn't NDISwraper for NIC only?
[23:23] <Mal3ko> !upgrade
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Madpilot, I know
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Madpilot, boy do I know
[23:24] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: no, it's an LCD, old one was CRT
[23:24] <Slart> Serraphyn: afaik it's used for all kinds of stuff.. it's used for flash for 64bit ubuntu
[23:24] <carpeliam> Gnea, mostly correct- for some reason, windows calls the physical disk with ubuntu on it "disk0", even though "disk1" is the physical disk that has the MBR
[23:24] <jrib> Thedjatclubrock: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[23:24] <raevol> jrib, the headers is installing an nvidia module, should i try just nvidia-xconfig first and rebootin?
[23:24] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: should I just let ubuntu re-create the xorg.conf file, then?
[23:24] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you for the bot link, I never knew about that dialog option.
[23:24] <epifanio> !mac > epifanio
[23:24] <Gnea> carpeliam: that's a bit... confusing, indeed. are they IDE or SATA?
[23:24] <jrib> raevol: I'd reinstall nvidia-glx-177.  In any case, make sure you have nvidia loaded with lsmod or make sure you can load it with modprobe
[23:24] <dimedo> i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration. any ideas?
[23:25] <raevol> jrib just loaded it with modprobe
[23:25] <Serraphyn> hmm
[23:25] <csilk> DasEi1, it does now, this is, it says it's installed but i cant find the control center anywhere
[23:25] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: so it was working ok (at some point) with the new monitor, right?
[23:25] <jrib> raevol: cool :).  Now setup your xorg.conf.  You know how to do that?
[23:25] <raevol> jrib yea thanks, rebooting if i break something i'll fix it :) i'll let you know if this works
[23:25] <PassionFRUI7E> Ahhh....635 KB/S.  The world is a funny place.  I find this out when I'm 3/4 done lol.
[23:25] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes
[23:25] <jrib> raevol: note that nvidia-xconfig makes stuff messier than it has to be
[23:26] <legend2440> xchat connects here but channel list does not load or refresh. do i have to forward any ports to get channel list to work?
[23:26] <Slart> hmm.. I really need to stop installing so much weird stuff.. so many packages to update
[23:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Oooh...800.
[23:26] <jdsbluedevl> but with the defective cable
[23:26] <carpeliam> Gnea, they are SATA. i have two partitions on each disk, and disk0 was the only one that had enough room for a new linux partition :/ do i need to have ubuntu on the same physical disk as the MBR? or more specifically, does the "/boot" partition need to be on the same physical disk as the MBR?
[23:26] <raevol> jrib roger just want to get it so i can launch nvidia-settings
[23:26] <thomc> automount doesn't seem to work in intrepid?
[23:26] <jrib> raevol: k
[23:26] <DasEi1> csilk:not in the apps menu (so in hardy) ? tried via cmd-line ?
[23:26] <Mal3ko> well the site doesn mention anything abour upgrading from ubuntu dekstop iso
[23:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Does intrepid really have good wifi?  I had huge problems trying to install atheros.
[23:26] <csilk> DasEi1,  yeah I've used it on hardy and all was well, u cant find it anywhere in intrepid even though it's claiming to be installed
[23:27] <jrib> Mal3ko: it does.  It says you can't upgrade from the desktop iso, only from the alternate iso
[23:27] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: I think it's supposed to have "better" wifi.. don't know if you can call it "good" yet
[23:27] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ok, then.  if ubuntu used a failsafe xorg.conf, it should have made a backup on the date-time in question.
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> The only things I miss are Visual Studio and the good windows wifi =P
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> Okay thanks slart.
[23:27] <elementz> updating to 8.10: now a popup asks wether i want to override changes to /etc/pam.d/common* i have no clue what this is... anybody?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: ndiswrapper can be used to fallback on
[23:27] <csilk> DasEi1, what's the bin/command to bring it up ?
[23:27] <jrib> elementz: if you have no clue, then just accept the maintainer's version
[23:27] <csilk> DasEi1, as it's not in the menus
[23:27] <mutedecho> anybody got a quick second for a question?
[23:27] <jrib> mutedecho: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !pam | elementz
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !info pam
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> ﻿ActionParsnip:  I tried using that.  Installed successfully, then did ndiswrapper something -l and it said ndiswrapper doesnt exist.
[23:27] <Slart> elementz: pam is an authentication module I think..
[23:27] <csilk> !ati
[23:28] <Gnea> carpeliam: yeah, grub should only be on the ubuntu system, and you should be able to change the boot sequence from the BIOS, and grub should pick up windows and make it a selection
[23:28] <mutedecho> Ok, here's the deal. Running Ubuntu and want to install a package that says it's for KDE.  Can I still use it under gnome?
[23:28] <ijustam> this was probably my best upgrade yet :O
[23:28] <elementz> Slart: yeah, found that out already...but thats it...
[23:28] <Gnea> carpeliam: er, only on the ubuntu disk
[23:28] <ijustam> mutedecho: sure, if you don't mind installing some KDE packages
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: theres a tonne of guicdes out there, try a few
[23:28] <Slart> mutedecho: yes.. you'll have to install some kde libs.. but it ought to work
[23:28] <drhe|lap> anyone know much about nxclient and nxserver?? how come i cannot connect remotely to ubuntus nxserver. it works if i connect from local lan. but just not over internet. i have port forward port 22. still nothing. is there some firewall setting or soemthing that i need to enable??? please help.
[23:28] <jrib> mutedecho: yep.  Anything you install through APT will grab everything it needs so you can use it
[23:28] <mutedecho> Ok, thanks a bunch!
[23:28] <tilde> anyone here tried icewm?
[23:28] <jrib> tilde: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:28] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll keep trying.  I still have a mesa problem that the official site doesn't fix.  Dang new ATI cards.
[23:28] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes, Ubuntu has a failsafe
[23:29] <ceafu> jrib: I was under the impression 8.10 ignored xorg.conf for input devices.
[23:29] <tilde> jrib that was my question
[23:29] <tilde> ...
[23:29] <philippe_> Hi. Is it possible to activate vsync in metacity to stop the tearing on the desktop when moving windows? I am using Ubuntu 8.10, Nvidia proprietary driver v177 with a 7800 GTX.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> tilde: i sugest fluxbox :)
[23:29] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: you can complete the x-session stuff by using ctrl-alt-f2.  login and cd to /etc/X11.  cp (don't mv) the correct file onto xorg.conf.  finally type "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"  that way you can make sure this works while the kernel update is taking place.
[23:29] <itsatrick> Hey, all.  I have Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex and a GE Wireless Optical Mosue.  Why won't Ubuntu detect the mouse?
[23:29] <tilde> im just trying icewm for the dual mouse cursor stuff
[23:29] <tilde> test
[23:29] <Gnea> carpeliam: i would just boot from the livecd and tell grub to install to the MBR of disk1 (/dev/sdb?), then reboot and tell bios to boot HDD-1 before booting HDD-0
[23:29] <Slart> itsatrick: I'm surprised it doesn't
[23:29] <ijustam> philippe_: I'd imagine not in metacity, probably something you'd have to set within Xorg
[23:29] <HtheB> Does anyone knows how to get "/dev/snd/hwC0D0" ????????????????
[23:30] <Slart> itsatrick: no change if you unplug the reciever and plug it in again?
[23:30] <HtheB> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and I dont have it anymore :(
[23:30] <csilk> DasEi1,  found it ;)
[23:30] <Gnea> carpeliam: theoretically, you should still be able to boot into windows (if it's XP... if it's Vista, not sure..) and fix the MBR of disk0 from there
[23:30] <jrib> ceafu: I believe you can still override settings there (I may be wrong).  You want to look into hotplug in any case
[23:30] <philippe_> ijustam, ok
[23:30] <raevol> jrib it works, thank you so much i want to have your babies
[23:30] <PassionFRUI7E> Any news on chrome for linux?
[23:30] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: have display back, but still bad resolution
[23:30] <jrib> raevol: no problem
[23:30] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: ask google?
[23:30] <TTThomas> Does the intrepid release include a version for netbooks?
[23:30] <Gnea> HtheB: are you sure that's what you need?
[23:30] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: I think you'll have to ask google
[23:30] <HtheB> Gnea, yeah
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: you can run it via wine
[23:31] <jrib> ceafu: what do you want to change?
[23:31] <carpeliam> Gnea, unfortunately my install CD is also botched :| so i'm downloading another one... we'll see how it goes :) but i'll try that
[23:31] <Pensador> Good evening
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: what's using it?
[23:31] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: last I heard it was "coming when it's done"
[23:31] <HtheB> Alsa
[23:31] <HtheB> (sound)
[23:31] <Gnea> carpeliam: okay :)
[23:31] <cousteau> ok; I re-installed Nvidia drivers with Envy and now I am in 800x600
[23:31] <PassionFRUI7E> jrib:  I like asking the insiders =P  You guys know stuff the day its released.  Google isn't immediate.  Lol thanks dude.
[23:31] <ijustam> here's my question for the night: did they get rid of the "home location" feature in the clock app?
[23:31] <tilde> windows 7 was leaked
[23:31] <tilde> ha
[23:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Rape.
[23:31] <raevol> jrib thanks again, byes
[23:31] <gub> hahaha
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: really? I thought alsa would provide that... I was wondering what *program* used it..
[23:31] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: I mean ask the google company, not the search engine.  It's up to them really
[23:31] <csilk> I thought official advice was to not use envy?
[23:31] <HtheB> Gnea, I had to do some actions before I could use my soundcard
[23:31] <cousteau> how can I install the Nvidia drivers?
[23:31] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: then it's the wrong version of the file.  go back to the other terminal session (ctrl-alt-f2) and look for the one that corresponds to the date and time it last worked correctly.  that should be the file you want.
[23:31] <Pensador> Please, is anybody having problems connecting to a Nokia 6300 through a USB cable?
[23:31] <tilde> synaptic
[23:31] <HtheB> well....
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: what soundcard?
[23:31] <tilde> if you cant figure out how to install nvidia drivers...
[23:31] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[23:31] <jrib> csilk: officially, the new envy is ok
[23:31] <HtheB> what I mean is: there is no hwC0D0 at all
[23:32] <HtheB> ALC889
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:32] <csilk> jrib, ok cool
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> HtheB: id resetup sound
[23:32] <PassionFRUI7E> jrib:  I'm not that worried =P  I'm hoping to get into their Pittsburgh office as a Software Engineer.  But I bet everyone wants in...
[23:32] <Pensador> I'll try that, ActionParsnip
[23:32] <ceafu> jrib. it appears 8.10 has the th.ree finger tap as right click by default. brand new install. I would like to use 2 fingers, or even better one finger in lower right
[23:32] <Gnea> HtheB: is there anything in /dev/snd/ ?
[23:32] <PassionFRUI7E> Oh my god this built in dictionary is NICE!
[23:32] <csilk> yet again ubuntu has been flawless in dealing with my grfx card ;)
[23:32] <HtheB> yeah:
[23:32] <itsatrick> Pensador: Linux has had trouble with most phones.  I would suggest using bluetooth to transfer data, or flash memory.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: in what app?
[23:32] <Dextorion> PassionFRUI7E: take a look at chromium.
[23:32] <bungieQord> I'm trying to write a shell script that will take a login name as an argument and output the home directory of the user, can anyone help a noob out?
[23:32] <Gnea> HtheB: such as?
[23:32] <Pensador> Itsatrick, I used to be able to do that with Hardy Heron
[23:32] <Gortha1> has anyone noticed a "better" PulseAudio in Ibex?
[23:32] <jdsbluedevl> well, for the moment it worked, let's see what happens when I log in
[23:32] <jrib> ceafu: did you try using xorg.conf to set that up?
[23:32] <HtheB> Gnea: controlC0  pcmC0D0c   pcmC0D0p   pcmC0D1p   pcmC0D2c   timer
[23:32] <jkristheking> dose the xbox 360 controller work with nexuiz?
[23:33] <Slart> Pensador: linux and cell phones are.. well.. more misses than hits afaik
[23:33] <Pensador> From what I googled, there was a specific NEW bug with Nokia 6300 on kernel 2.6.27
[23:33] <Gnea> HtheB: okay. do you have a /dev/dsp?
[23:33] <antoranz> Guys! How do I enable the nvidia driver on a presario 3317la?
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Dextorion:  I don't feel like installing wine.  I'm going for a sleek system.  I'll just boot up vista sometime if I want windows apps.
[23:33] <ceafu> not yet, because I thought it ignored it, but I'll try and find out in about 10 minutes
[23:33] <Pensador> But no one ever mentioned it again from 2.6.27-5
[23:33] <tovella> csilk: which grfx card do you have?
[23:33] <jrgp> does intrepid support GeForce 6600's?
[23:33] <antoranz> cause in the "proprietary drivers" application, it says nothing about the nvidia card
[23:33] <Gnea> jrgp: yes.
[23:33] <Pensador> now we're at 2.6.27-7 and the problem is still there
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Pidgin is amazing.  My god this program does it all perfectly.
[23:33] <cowbud> hardy uses /dev/mapper/* for lvm right? among other things..
[23:33] <Slart> jrgp: can't imagine that it doesn't
[23:33] <Pensador> It's because it's a new bug that I'm asking
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> jrgp:  Tell me your result.  I might install ubuntu on my desktop PC with that card.  Thanks!
[23:33] <Gortha1> Passion, First time in a buntu?
[23:33] <Dextorion> PassionFRUI7E: Oh, that one is running on wine? My bad. Just heard that it was somewhat like chrome on linux.
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I got it 3 days ago.
[23:34] <jrgp> PassionFRUI7E, ok
[23:34] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: nah.. transferring files is still a kludge.. if it even works
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I love ubuntu.
[23:34] <HtheB> let me see Gnea
[23:34] <csilk> tovella, ATI Radeon 2400 HD  and in my laptop INTEL extreme 915 onboard
[23:34] <TTThomas> the review of intrepid at http://linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=759 mentions a "mobile usb image" and has a screen shot, but I havent been able to track it down. does anyone know where I can get it?
[23:34] <HorizonXP> !ubuntu
[23:34] <jdsbluedevl> great, new problem, now all desktop icons are missing, and I can't access system menus
[23:34] <HorizonXP> !nvidia
[23:34] <HtheB> Gnea: no
[23:34] <Slart> TTThomas: I think it's called ubuntu MID
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: theres a file with that info I believe, you can just grep it a little
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm majoring in Computer Science(Programming).  Ubuntu is cool.
[23:34] <Slart> !mid
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> ﻿bungieQord: let me websearch
[23:34] <Gortha1> i cant remember the last time i used windows, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WINE
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> linuxcommands.org got me kickstarted.  Props to that site for any beginners in here.
[23:34] <Gnea> HtheB: try this:  sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss    and check again
[23:35]  * jrib highly recommends native linux apps
[23:35] <tilde> there is supposed to be a shooting at my school tomorrow :(
[23:35] <abe3k> hi guys, I just upgraded to 8.10 and I can't seem to find where to configure my DNS addresses ?
[23:35] <TTThomas> slart: the ubuntu MID is for touchscreen mobile devices
[23:35] <tovella> csilk: ...going to upgrade from an ATI x1550.  are you pleased with the performance of the 2400 HD?
[23:35] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, nop, it does not appear with sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <PassionFRUI7E> Bring a crowbar.
[23:35] <tilde> dude
[23:35] <HtheB> Gnea, isnt there a way to get back to my alsa drivers?
[23:35] <Slart> TTThomas: ah.. sorry.. indeed it is
[23:35] <PassionFRUI7E> Crowbars do everything.  Deflect bullets, open doors, bash brains...
[23:35] <Gortha1> goes without saying jrib, but sometimes new users get a little winsick
[23:35] <tilde> if i am on the first floor and the shooters are on the 2nd/third floor and not on the 1st i am running like hell
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: then try rebooting the phone
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: when I try to run nvidia settings, I get an error saying "X Window System error" and the error is "BadName (named color or font does not exist)"
[23:36] <Ljudkort> tilde: how do you know?
[23:36] <csilk> tovella,  I haven't used it for anything to stressful, I'm not a gamer so I dont know how it handles high loads etc... but in general yes I am
[23:36] <pur-angst> tell me
[23:36] <ubuntu> the 8.10 install disc drops me too a shell everytime, what is the command to install through console?
[23:36] <Pensador> shall I reboot the phone with the USB cable still plugged, ActionParsnip?
[23:36] <csilk> tovella,  it works perfectly in ubuntu, that's what I mainly care about
[23:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Does anybody know if there's any improvements in 8.10 for ATI cards?
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: details of error are "serial 312 error_code 15 request_code 45 minor_code 0"
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> does that mean anything to you?
[23:36] <Gnea> HtheB: this is an extension that is part of the alsa driver
[23:36] <abe3k> where do I find the ethernet DNS address configuration in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: try it
[23:36] <tilde> because yesterday there were 17 cop cars at my school, fbi agents, a swat team+van, cops on the roof, and cops inside the school with glocks armed and ready to shoot
[23:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Cops on the roof?  Ouch.  He's screwed.
[23:36] <dekushrub> does ubuntu 8.10 have less packages than 8.04 or is it because I went from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[23:36] <drhe|lap> tilde, what happend?
[23:36] <Slart> !ot | tilde
[23:36] <tilde> 17 co pcars
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> ﻿bungieQord: you can check the username exists on the system with /etc/passwd
[23:37] <tilde> drh|lap there was a rumor of a shooting
[23:37] <Ljudkort> tilde: Aha? So now they believe it to go for tomorrow?
[23:37] <tilde> got spread around and shit
[23:37] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, For my ati card the driver has been updated, not sure what improvements it has made, all i know is that it just works
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> While installing updates I got "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly."  Any ideas?
[23:37] <tilde> my friend got stabbed over the weekend so yeah :(
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you csilk.
[23:37] <tilde> thats probably why
[23:37] <HtheB> Gnea, done, but still no "/dev/dsp
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0"
[23:37] <Gnea> tilde: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic plesae
[23:37] <tilde> its probably going to happen tomorrow, last year there were 3-5 bomb threats
[23:37] <tilde> k
[23:37] <Gnea> *please
[23:37] <Ljudkort> xD
[23:37] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: sounds like your system has some deeper issues than I can help with from here.  I don't have an nvidia card.
[23:37] <Ljudkort> Where do you live, tilde?
[23:37] <Tom_Davis> question: what did they do to the sound between saturday and now? IT WORKED SATURDAY, I did an install of rc1 worked well, release, not so much
[23:37] <tilde> ljudkort arkansas
[23:37] <tilde> but my school is a gang area
[23:37] <Ljudkort> ./
[23:37] <Ljudkort> :/*
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: ﻿http://bhagwat-masalkar.blogspot.com/2008/09/where-linux-user-group-information.html
[23:38] <tilde> i live in an upper class neighborhood
[23:38] <jrib> tilde: let's try to stay on-topic here
[23:38] <Gnea> tilde, Ljudkort: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:38] <dimedo> i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration. any ideas?
[23:38] <Slart> tilde, Ljudkort, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.. you'll just get kicked if you keep this up
[23:38] <HorizonXP> hey, i can't seem to get my nvidia driver working. any help?
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Run failsafe mode dimedo.
[23:38] <cmdbbq> um, i need help where can I find the default text for /etc/sudoers? I, uh, lost mine
[23:38] <ceafu> jrib: thanks for your input but I have to go eat some stew. I'll try xorg and see what happens
[23:38] <Gnea> HtheB: can you pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[23:38] <Ljudkort> Sorry, Slart, Gnea.
[23:38] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, and what then?
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> It completely fixed my system, other than some tweaks I needed to do.
[23:38] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, the phone would not boot with the USB cable on, so I took it off for a sec and connected it again after powering the phone. Still, it is not detected by Ubuntu
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Restart.
[23:38] <tilde> ctrl alt backspace
[23:38] <ceafu> stew and cold weather.  mmm good.
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> I gave up, restarted, it worked fine!
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> XD
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: hmm, whats the phone model again
[23:39] <dekushrub> is the ubuntu 64 bit repository smaller than the 32 bit?
[23:39] <abe3k> where do I find the ethernet DNS addresses configuration in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:39] <Slart> dekushrub: huh.. don't think so.. there might be one or two apps not available.. but nothing noticable
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: /etc/resolv.conf specifies nameservers
[23:39] <tovella> dimedo: are you sure fglrx supports the 9600?  i thought it was for newer cards than that?
[23:39] <HtheB> Gnea, dmesg?
[23:39] <jimminy_cricket> im having some problems with gdm, it isn't starting properly and i can't reconfigure it without shutting all x sessions
[23:39] <PassionFRUI7E> We should get a community effort going for rapid application development, like a better C# for linux.
[23:39] <jimminy_cricket> anyone got any ideas?
[23:39] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, it's Nokia 6300. It worked with the kernel versions packaged with Hardy Heron. It does not connect now that I upgraded to Intrepid
[23:39] <b3lorixx> UBuntu 8.10 the window border liek kep getting messed up any ideas?
[23:40] <noclueguy> jimminy_cricket
[23:40] <epifanio> so nobody knows hot to have "@" character,  on a macbook pro :-(
[23:40] <dekushrub> slart, i'm missing cheese, gnome-do, pidgin plugins, etc...
[23:40] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  Did you try going to a simpler window theme?
[23:40] <Gnea> HtheB: yes, it's a command that shows you all of the kernel debugging messages - best way, is to: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[23:40] <porter1> jimminy_cricket, does dmesg report anything?
[23:40] <cmdbbq> any way i can get a new copy of sudoers?
 : thanks man I appreciate it :)
[23:40] <jrib> cmdbbq: why?  I can pastebin mine
[23:40] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUI7E: im using the defualt fresh install one
[23:40] <Gnea> HtheB: using the pastebin site means that you won't have to worry about flooding in here
[23:40] <noclueguy> white
[23:40] <cmdbbq> i uh lost mine
[23:40] <Pensador> In fact, ActionParsnip, if I boot from the older kernel, the phone is detected. It's a new bug. From what I googled, people stopped mentioning it since 2.6.27-5
[23:40] <Slart> dekushrub: I had most of those installed on 8.04.. I'm almost finised updating to 8.10.. I can let you know in a minute or so
[23:40] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  All eyecandy disabled?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1779032&postcount=3
[23:40] <noclueguy> sorry didn't want to write that :-(
[23:40] <Slart> !info cheese
[23:40] <paul__> Is anybody using Wine to run win32 applications?
[23:40] <Pensador> but it's 2.6.27-7 and it's still there
[23:40] <Pensador> thanks
[23:40] <jimminy_cricket> porter1 what do you want out of the results?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: http://wammu.eu/
[23:41] <Slart> dekushrub: have you enabled the universe repos?
[23:41] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUi7E: yup
[23:41] <blk> i'm running a custom kernel (without initrd) - is there a way to use UUID for finding the root partition, currently only works with root=/dev/sda3
[23:41] <xnid> Any other having wireless problems on 8.10 with a Intel 4965?
[23:41] <cmdbbq> was trying to disable the sudo timeout, don't know how to use vi, and really screwed up trying to fix
[23:41] <jrib> cmdbbq: uh huh... http://pastebin.com/f30815209
[23:41] <porter1> jimminy_cricket, see if you can find anything of use in relation to gdm?
[23:41] <jarco> how to install flash in firefox?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> paul__: i do
[23:41] <Swian> anyone upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and experienced problems?
[23:41] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  You got me stumped.  Might want to find a pro.
[23:41] <Slart> !flash
[23:41] <jimminy_cricket> nope
[23:41] <igors_> hi all..i have my mic working on my macbook, but show could i switch from the macbook's mic, and another mic i've plugged ?
[23:41] <dimedo> tovella, it seems to support mobile 9600 at least. but the normal ati driver doesn't work either. any alternatives?
[23:41] <tovella> is network-manager still not saving custom settings for everyone else, or just me?
[23:41] <drhe|lap> does ubuntu have yast2?
[23:41] <jrib> jarco: visit http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ and click on the yellow bar at the top
[23:41] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  I myself have a graphics issue, thats why im trying intrepid, installing atm.
[23:41] <HtheB> Gnea, no no i mean what command should I typ to get the output
[23:42] <jrib> drhe|lap: what does that do?
[23:42] <drog> Hey, anyone here know the package to add the 'custom' or 'advanced' or whichever it is to the Visual Effects menu?
[23:42] <noclueguy> drhe|lap: no that's in the suse distribution.
[23:42] <Gnea> HtheB: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:42] <djhash> ols
[23:42] <drhe|lap> yast 2 is some sort of file/apps manager i think
[23:42] <woody86> when I connect to my network with 8.10 on my laptop or desktop it kicks the other computer off the network?? Anyone have any ideas?
[23:42] <drhe|lap> okay
[23:42] <Slart> !ccsm | drog
[23:42] <TTThomas> Does anyone know about a Mobile USB image for Intrepid (not the MID image)
[23:42] <drog> Slart, it's installed already
[23:42] <Swian> any problems upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[23:42] <woody86> when I connect to my wireless network with either my laptop or desktop in 8.10 it will kick the other computer off the network, anyone have any ideas??
[23:42] <caglar> can anybody help me
[23:42] <blk> drhe|lap: no, that's SuSE - it's a system-configuration tool
[23:42] <jkristheking> 8.10 is WAY BETTER
[23:42] <drog> Slart, that was my first attempt to fix it
[23:42] <Swian> better how?
[23:42] <caglar> my upgrade chashed
[23:42] <jimminy_cricket> 8.10 killed my pc :(
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> woody86: yu may have a conflicting MAC address
[23:42] <jkristheking> the only problem is that the scale plugin is FUCKED
[23:43] <cmdbbq> jrib, thank you very much
[23:43] <drhe|lap> how is it way better? heh
[23:43] <Slart> drog: try installing the compiz-icon thingy.. it has an option if starting the config app
[23:43] <cmdbbq> very very very much
[23:43] <tovella> dimedo: not sure... i accidentally dropped my 9600 & updated the hardware to support a pci-x 16 (ATI x1550).
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !oh my | jkristheking
[23:43] <xnid> I can't even find any other wireless networks after installing 8.10
[23:43] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: ah right ok, what happended exactly
[23:43] <KJ83The2nd> can someone help me in a private window with how to patiotion my harddrive when dualbooting?
[23:43] <woody86> ActionParsnip- how do I find that out? and how do i fix it?
[23:43] <Gortha1> any recommendation on what to backup other than xorg, before the upgrade?...
[23:43] <jkristheking> sorry -.-
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | jkristheking
[23:43] <jrib> Gortha1: any data you care about
[23:43] <amortvigil> can i remove bonobo-activation-server savely it causes a big login problem for me?
[23:43] <PassionFRUI7E> Is there ANY way to get flash on 64 bit?  Download a 32 bit browser?
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> after the reboot gdm is fooked
[23:43] <fallore> is there a way to have my irssi terminal window named irssi in the bottom panel?
[23:43] <HtheB> Gnea, http://pastebin.com/f12ce1aca
[23:43] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUI7E: it does this http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:43] <jkristheking> sorry sorry sorry :[
[23:43] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: visit http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ and click on the yellow bar at the top
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> won't start properly
[23:43] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: yes there is
[23:43] <Gortha1> all data is saved on mounted disks
[23:43] <Dextorion> good night
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> can't reconfig it
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> woody86: ifconfig on linux / ipconfig /all on windows
[23:43] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: and no, you don't have to run 32 bit firefox
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> don't know where to go
[23:43] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you.
[23:44] <Swian> so no one can say whats "way better"
[23:44] <sahak> Every time I login into Ubuntu, metacity is trying to find .config/metacity/sessions/1064933de98e8b0ee12254045404160500000174600005.ms and fails to find it and complains about it. Is there a way to fix this bug?
[23:44] <Slack> anyone know why when i run something on wine it messes up my display settings
[23:44] <legend2440> dimedo: are you on hardy or intrepid?
[23:44] <XVampireX> Hi
[23:44] <dimedo> legend2440, hardy
[23:44] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, I have no bluetooth receptors on my laptop, though. Which is why I complain about the fact my phone does not connect through USB cable
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Slack: configure the app better
[23:44] <luigi> !it
[23:44] <tsukasa_> is anyone using a logitech wave keyboard? I want to know if they can be re-arranged to dvorak easily (eg the keys are all the same size and height)
[23:44] <XVampireX> I just installed a PCI capture card
[23:44] <woody86> ActionParsnip- ok, I ran it, what am i looking for?
[23:44] <LF|Irssi> Swian: the synaptic instant search is "Way better" :)
[23:44] <Pensador> anymore, that is
[23:44] <jrib> sahak: hey me too :)  I haven't bothered to sort that out yet, let me know if you figure it out
[23:44] <Gortha1> i guess i should state, any config files other than xorg
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> woody86: the hardware address or mac address
[23:44] <XVampireX> how do I check if the card is supported?
[23:45] <Swian> ok, that's one thing
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> That is...very odd.  Sorry I'm still learning too, ask someone more experienced.
[23:45] <ldiamond> I want to boot the install CD from a USB Hard drive. What part of the CD is the LIVE part?
[23:45] <LF|Irssi> screenlets is "Way better"
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: mines HWaddr 00:18:f3:a9:6f:b8
[23:45] <vanberge> could anybody help me get my nvidia restricted drivers working?  i see two version (17 and 177) but neither one will activate and i don't know why
[23:45] <sean> Hi everyone...
[23:45] <HtheB> Gnea?
[23:45] <jrib> Gortha1: not really.  backup anything you've modified
[23:45] <woody86> ActionParsnip- Also, this works fine when I'm running Vista on my desktop, it's just when I'm running 8.10 on them both that it happens
[23:45] <noclueguy> Is there like a known issues page for 8.1? didn't find much but I got a hard time installing it.
[23:45] <amortvigil> can i remove bonobo-activation-server savely it causes a big login problem for me?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: do it on the other system, make sure they dont clash
[23:45] <tovella> sahak: i would try to open a terminal window and type "metacity --replace"  let us know how it works out.
[23:45] <LF|Irssi> new xchat that is "Way better" that's 3, im on a roll here :)
[23:45] <legend2440> dimedo: i have ati radeon 9600 with fglrx drivers. i just enabled them in system>admin>hardware drivers to get them to work
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> @Adobe flash link> "XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/plugins/pluginInstallerWizard.xul
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Line Number 70, Column 5:    <description value="&pluginWizard.checkingForPlugins.description.label;"/>
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> ----^"
[23:45] <FloodBot3> PassionFRUI7E: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <jrib> noclueguy: checked the release notes?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: if you are using static ips that can do it too
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Oh, whoops, sorry forgot to reformat.
[23:45] <Gortha1> jrib, we both know i cant remember every specific thing ive modified.
[23:46] <noclueguy> nope
[23:46] <xnid> Does ayone have a dell xps m1530 with 8.10 working with wireless network?
[23:46] <Gnea> HtheB: yeah, was reading
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> woody86: something in the network config is clashing
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> is there any way i can get a fresh copy of the gdm config and replace what i have
[23:46] <__> will intrepid work on wubi?
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> the reconfig isnt working
[23:46] <Swian> LF, I'm using google gadgets already
[23:46] <Swian> looks a lot like screenlets
[23:46] <vanberge> lmao this # is crazy
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> xnid: run lspci to see what wireless you have
[23:46] <Gnea> HtheB: is that a laptop or desktop system?
[23:46] <jrib> Gorthax: the upgrade will tell you if it is about to replace a file you have modified
[23:46] <LF|Irssi> google gadgets is too laggy for my machine
[23:46] <ldiamond> I need help booting the Live CD from a hard drive instead of a CD.
[23:46] <Gorthax> ahh
[23:46] <Swian> runs fine on mine
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> xnid: then websearch on how to setup from ther
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> e
[23:46] <tsukasa_> is anyone using a logitech wave keyboard? I want to know if they can be re-arranged to dvorak easily (eg the keys are all the same size and height)
[23:46] <noclueguy> I'll do so thx jrib
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> anyone?
[23:46] <sahak> tovella: "metacity --replace" worked with now warnings. i need to log out and log in again to see if it fixed the problem though
[23:47] <Gnea> !anyone | jimminy_cricket
[23:47] <Gorthax> thank you, been quite a while since i used the upgrade route.  I usually archive the disk, and use another
[23:47] <Swian> think I'll wait a bit
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> i did
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> if you read it all
[23:47] <sahak> tovella: with now warnings -> with no warnings
[23:47] <rano> hfgdhffg
[23:47] <rano> jftzjtz
[23:47] <b3lorixx> !nvidia
[23:47] <Slart> jimminy_cricket: just repeat the whole question every 5 minutes or so.. people join/leave/come back all the time
[23:47] <woody86> ActionParsnip- also, I can't run the terminal on my desktop, it just shows a blank white screen, without text or a menu on it
[23:47] <jrib> tsukasa_: ask ##hardware maybe, it's not really on-topic here.  Anyway, why bother rearranging the keys?  Just change the keymap.  You're going to be touch-typing anyway
[23:47] <tovella> sahak: ok, again let us know how to works out.
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> gdm is completely screwed, starts up with nothing but a bland orange colour screen so it needs to be reconfigured
[23:47] <tilde> so how well does icewm work
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> or at least i assume
[23:47] <Slart> jimminy_cricket: you'll get an answer sooner or later.. use the time to search the forums
[23:47] <sahak> tovella: ok, i'll be right back.
[23:47] <badfish69> will python script only run in terminal if there's no gui?
[23:47] <HtheB> Gnea, a laptop :)
[23:47] <PassionFRUI7E> If you got a problem and people are stumped, go learn terminal!  www.linuxcommands.org
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> i have been searching the forums
[23:47] <Gnea> jimminy_cricket: you should be able to: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> thats why im here
[23:48] <replman> Hi! Without having a cdrom-drive, is it possible to install ubuntu? I have an old one running (5.04)
[23:48] <jrib> badfish69: what do you mean?
[23:48] <HtheB> Gnea, Acer 6920G
[23:48] <Gnea> HtheB: which one? make/model?
[23:48] <b3lorixx> Anyone please help me solve this window border problem http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:48] <badfish69> ie: clicking "run" rather than "run in terminal" results in nothing happening
[23:48] <tsukasa_> jrib: i still occasionally look down even when im touch typing
[23:48] <Gorthax> upgrade started, that was a very painful click
[23:48] <Gnea> awesome
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> woody86: i dont know aout that, i use yakuake in kde. you could try tilda maybe
[23:48] <jrib> !install | replman
[23:48] <Gnea> !laptop
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> i tried reconfig gdm and it says it will take effect when all x sessions have ended
[23:48] <badfish69> while "run in terminal" works perfectly
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> after a reboot there was no fix
[23:48] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how I can boot Ubuntu 8.10 Install CD from a hard drive?
[23:48] <LF|Irssi> PassionFRUI7E: with webmin not working, i'll be at that terminal help site every 5 minutes :)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: what went wrong with your update exactly
[23:48] <jrib> badfish69: it should still run, you just won't see any output
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> exactly what went wrong is what i just said
[23:48] <Slart> ldiamond: not sure it can be done.. unless you do it in some weird weird way
[23:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Hehe =P
[23:48] <cmdbbq> jrib thanks again
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> when i rebooted i got a blank orange screen and gdm didnt load
[23:48] <badfish69> jrib: exactly what i needed to know, thanks
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can add a line to grub (i believe) to boot the iso
[23:49] <dug_> Ever since I updated to Intrepid, i keep having to re-enter the password to access my wireless network.  Is there a way to have ubuntu remember that password again?
[23:49] <sahak> tovella: still the same problem persists
[23:49] <Gorthax> very impressed with "festival" and the high quality voices
[23:49] <jimminy_cricket> the debug says it didnt load kdm but has nothing going on with gdm
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: its a lot of work
[23:49] <tesseracter> hi. just went to 8.10, but i dont think thats part of the problem. first time, login works fine. if i logout, the login screen is slightly glitchy, and if i can login, it glitches out and X cannot find a resolution than works. thats if anyone responds.
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck
[23:49] <Slart> ActionParsnip: huh? grub can boot from an iso?? that sounds awesome
[23:49] <sahak> tovella: Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/sahak/.config/metacity/sessions/10bde866213e4ba245122541051669840700000198020005.ms: Failed to open file '/home/sahak/.config/metacity/sessions/10bde866213e4ba245122541051669840700000198020005.ms': No such file or directory
[23:49] <legend2440> can someone who uses xchat tell me if their Network>Channels box works. can you choose channels from channel list without it freezing up?
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck. Scanning the mirror....
[23:49] <earthen> Hey guys i'm try to find the name of the program that gives me the tool bar similar to that of the mac tool bar
[23:49] <Slart> earthen: awn is one I think
[23:49] <Gorthax> earthen Avant
[23:49] <tovella> sahak: let me do some looking on my machine...
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> earthen: There is an applet
[23:49] <PassionFRUI7E> eearthen:  Graphically or functionally?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> Oh
[23:50] <csilk> earthen,  you mean the dock? try cairo dock
[23:50] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip: Yea how can boot a ISO?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> :p
[23:50] <jrib> earthen: awn?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> AWN is better
[23:50] <Gnea> HtheB: hrm.. have you read this? http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=884101
[23:50] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, the trick with the recovery mode worked, now my problem is that after loading the ubuntu menu correctly, the screen turns white completely (while still providing a mouse arrow)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-booting-an-iso-image-315354/
[23:50] <Gorthax> cairo is a hog
[23:50] <Swian> legend2440 works fine for me
[23:50] <csilk> to be fair they all fail
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slarthttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-booting-an-iso-image-315354/
[23:50] <dug_> earthen: you mean a dock?
[23:50] <sahak> tovella: do "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[23:50] <PassionFRUI7E> dimendo:  I have that problem.
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck. Scanning the mirror.... Are they going to make the install fail?
[23:50] <legend2440> Swian: ok thanks mine freezes up
[23:50] <Slart> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:50] <Gorthax> if you must have a dock, use AWN
[23:50] <PassionFRUI7E> dimendo:  Disable visual effects in failsafe.
[23:50] <earthen> dug_,  yeah
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slart: its hardly worth it
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slart: ldiamond: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t305843.html
[23:51] <||Okkoto||> Hey guys, have you heard of the neat free XBox 360 Elite giveaway promoted by companies like Blockbuster, Amazon, Netflix, etc?
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Then restart, and it works.  I'm still trying to get eyecandy back.  I gathered that mesa graphics drivers are taking over ati ones.
[23:51] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, well, good to know you
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> =P
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> my aim is self titled if you need help.
[23:51] <||Okkoto||> My buddy just recently got his XBox 360, and now that I've seen it, I'm trying to do the same
[23:51] <HtheB> Gnea, I read that before yeah :) I followed this: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-May/007653.html and it worked :) on Ubuntu 8.04... but now on 8.10, there is no hwC0D0 so I can't apply the patch on it :S
[23:51] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: ok you may be able to fix it from a Live CD, but it would be much easier to install it again from a CD
[23:51] <russianzilla> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with an issue I'm having with my Intrepid upgrade.
[23:51] <Gorthax> Passion, have you toyed around with compiz yet?
[23:51] <jimminy_cricket> i can't reinstall
[23:51] <earthen> csilk, Gorthax Thedjatclubrock  thanks for the info guys
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Speaking of ubuntu, is it easy to install on my ps3?  Racking folding@home points would rock
[23:51] <jimminy_cricket> i would lose a tb of data
[23:51] <tovella> sahak: under .config/ i see lots of directories, but i don't have one for metacity... this although metacity is my default window manager.
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Gorthax:  No.
[23:51] <Gnea> HtheB: this one seems to be a bit more in-depth... http://georgia.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6055988
[23:51] <Thedjatclubrock> Any time.
[23:52] <jimminy_cricket> how would i fix it from a live cd
[23:52] <||Okkoto||> it's pretty easy, 1) you sign up  2) complete an offer (like signing up for Netflix, or trying a trial Amazon thing, etc) and 3) you get 8 to 11 people to do the same.
[23:52] <LF|Irssi> ||Okkoto||: whats that have to do with Ubuntu or even Linux?
[23:52] <bremby> russianzilla: just ask the wuestion
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Been top busy with 8.10.  1 minute left
[23:52] <||Okkoto||> if youw ould like a link PM me
[23:52] <bremby> question*
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Can you add me@aim?  self titled?
[23:52] <sahak> tovella: does you .xsession-errors file also contain a warning?
[23:52] <russianzilla> Well, I tried to do an upgrade to Intrepid from Hardy through the update manager.
[23:52] <epifanio> tring to set the layout for :  macintosh macbook pro ... i receive these error : http://rafb.net/p/kaLsrU61.html   please help :-(
[23:52] <Nikke> Can i go from ubuntu to ubuntu-server without reinstall?
[23:52] <HtheB> Gnea,
[23:52] <Nikke> i used my last cd
[23:52] <russianzilla> The upgrade got stuck on the cleanup stage "looking for obsolete software"
[23:52] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: data yes,  I got in a similar problem when  my update to Intrepid Ibex beta went wrong, because the computer lost power,   so  I  sorted out my partitions and moved my data over to another partiiton and so on
[23:52] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, how can i disable the visual effects without using x?
[23:52] <HtheB> he also uses the hda-verb fix
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Files are saved locally.
[23:52] <tesseracter> other problem, 2.6.27 gives me a grub error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. do i need to flash bios, or fix HD, or....
[23:52] <drumstyk1> wow, sudo nautilus gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/64884/ does anyone know what that means?
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> I did failsafe and it worked.
[23:53] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip: How does that make grub boot isos?
[23:53] <tovella> sahak: not for metacity
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> I know you can do it in terminal somehow...
[23:53] <russianzilla> Terminal output said it was "ldconfig deferred processing taking place" or something like that
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> Q:  How do I disable eye candy in terminal?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: what you need is a seperate home partition, and then when you re install you won't get in such a mess
[23:53] <russianzilla> I googled the problem and saw that it could usually be fixed by just force-quitting and restarting, which was a bad idea.
[23:53] <noclueguy> jrib have been on the release notes. None of my issues covered. Are you experienced with ubuntu. Because I actually never ever had any trouble installing it.
[23:53] <HtheB> Gnea, he also uses the hda-verb fix, which looks for /dev/snd/hwC0D0
[23:53] <jimminy_cricket> i cant set it up like that
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> compiz isn't it?  something like that?
[23:53] <jimminy_cricket> otherwise i would have
[23:53] <||Okkoto||> Here, check this out: http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5491516
[23:53] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:53] <Slart> updating is done.. reboot time
[23:54] <Gnea> HtheB: right, but there are some other 'option's there that aren't on the other sides....
[23:54] <russianzilla> Now when I reboot it's still Hardy, it won't use restricted drivers, and it freaks out for about a minute flashing some kind of terminal failsafe screen before starting in safe graphics mode.
[23:54] <tovella> sahak: perpaps you should consider backing and deleting .config/metacity ... i think it may be created when something weird happens to metacity.
[23:54] <jimminy_cricket> all i need to know is how to fix it from a live cd
[23:54] <HtheB> Gnea, ??? huh
[23:54] <HtheB> what do you men? :P
[23:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> what is supposed to happen when you upgrade to ubuntu 8.10?
[23:54] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:54] <sahak> tovella: i don't have .config/metacity either
[23:54] <HtheB> Gnea, what do you mean*? :P
[23:54] <Gnea> HtheB: here, show me this:  cat
[23:54] <Gnea> oops
[23:54] <sahak> tovella: so i don't know what's trying to access it
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> MrWizeGuy1983: you get the intrepid kernel and the new applications from the intrepid repos
[23:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> i clicked upgrade from the update manager and it went gray
[23:55] <Gnea> HtheB: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | pastebinit
[23:55] <bremby> russianzilla: have you tried booting into recovery mode, trying to reconfigure X server and reconfiguring dpkg? or trying to finish the upgrade?
[23:55] <Gorthax> its working
[23:55] <sahak> tovella: i am going to make a new user, and see if he still gets the same warning
[23:55] <Tetracomm-live> Hello.
[23:55] <russianzilla> Well, for some reason it won't present me with the option to redo the upgrade.
[23:55] <tovella> sahak: i have another idea...
[23:55] <bremby> russianzilla: you can work in the failsafe mode, can't you?
[23:55] <HtheB> Gnea, http://pastebin.com/f28016095
[23:55] <russianzilla> I can't even get into software sources.
[23:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> ActionParsnip, it's an automatic upgrade and full version as of today, but it's acting funny, do you know what i should do?
[23:55] <russianzilla> No, I mean, I'm on my desktop now.
[23:55] <russianzilla> It gets into some kind of terminal when I boot
[23:55] <russianzilla> That flashes a few times
[23:55] <SupaBeast> ﻿I get this error trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0" (I think sr0 is the harddrive with Windows Installed) How do i get the installer to use the second harddrive (where i have 8.04 installed atm)?
[23:56] <russianzilla> Then I get into the desktop.
[23:56] <russianzilla> But I can't use restricted drivers on my graphics card and I can't get it to recognize that there's an upgrade available.
[23:56] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10 Nvidia Issues please help *window borders http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> MrWizeGuy1983: i ran it from command line
[23:56] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:56] <Tetracomm-live> I am about to install Ubuntu 8.10, I have two FAT32 partitions which I don't want it to touch, when I select: "Guided - Use the largest continuous free space", what will it do? Will it affect my two FAT32 partitions?
[23:56] <MrWizeGuy1983> it acted quite odd, then just now started working
[23:56] <MrWizeGuy1983> i guess the server is busy
[23:56] <sgornick> Looking for Geany ... I know it is in the Add/Remove (gnome-app-install) but how come I cannot see it when I search using Synaptic?
[23:56] <sahak> tovella: what is it?
[23:57] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, I adivse manual
[23:57] <ldiamond> I managed to boot from an extracted image (ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso) but It boots to initramfs. But how do I launch the live CD from there?
[23:57] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's working, thanks and bye for now
[23:57] <tovella> sahak: go to System > Perferences > Apperance & click on the visual effects tab.  Select normal, then close (button).  Go back and do the same thing, only reselecting None, then close.
[23:57] <bremby> russianzilla: I guess you're still booting in normal mode, or?
[23:57] <russianzilla> Normal mode, yeah.
[23:57] <bremby> russianzilla: then try recovery mode
[23:57] <russianzilla> Would upgrading from the alternate CD as opposed to over the net possibly help?
[23:58] <tovella> sahak: this should reset your metacity stuff, logout & login again to test.
[23:58] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Why?
[23:58] <bremby> russianzilla: yes, it might, but rebooting is faster than downloading a CD, burning it and etc
[23:58] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, to mitigate the risk of overwriting current partitions
[23:58] <stoned> !install
[23:58] <sahak> tovella: i actually tried that before and it didn't help
[23:58] <HtheB> Gnea,
[23:58] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, also, to make sure you get your partitions just as you want them
[23:58] <Gnea> HtheB: i don't know what else to suggest... http://georgia.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=50d587f895dba9e65522567122d3d7f3&p=6055692&postcount=9
[23:58] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:58] <sysrpn> i can't my native nvidia video drivers installed  from  thegnome ui on ibex
[23:59] <sysrpn> i guess the servers are getting ammered?
[23:59] <bremby> russianzilla: just try to reboot into recovery, then reconfiguring and xFix
[23:59] <russianzilla> Alright, I'll try recovery mode then.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> csilk: man gnupg (maybe?)
[23:59] <russianzilla> Thanks.
[23:59] <sysrpn> hammered
[23:59] <jjgalvez__> trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 using the alt disk, and I got a "Could not calculate the upgrade" error, what should I do?
[23:59] <Gorthax> HAMMERED, I second that
[23:59] <russianzilla> Wait, how would you go about reconfiguring xFix?
[23:59] <Gorthax> 3 hours for DL
[23:59] <amortvigil> what can i do against bonobo-activivation-server crashes at login?
[23:59] <tovella> sahak: wow... i'm suspecting some sort of file corruption may have taken place.  not sure which file/files, though.
[23:59] <HtheB> Gnea, I followed a tutorial
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> jjgalvez__: i used this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20Desktops%20(Recommended)
[23:59] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10 Nvidia Issues please help *window borders http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:59] <HtheB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921637&highlight=Acer+6920
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> jjgalvez__: try running sudo apt-get clean first