[02:29] <Trailbrain> Ok I'm downloading the upgrade off of system update.  It says it's going to take like a day.  I've also downloaded the ISO file and have 8.10 on a CD.  Can I upgrade from the CD
[02:30] <HedgeMage> Trailbrain: yes, but you need the Ubuntu CD and the Edubuntu add-on CD
[02:30] <HedgeMage> you can't do it with just the edu addons
[02:33] <Trailbrain> Is there a how-to online somewhere?
[02:34] <HedgeMage> I have no idea, but it's just a couple of steps...
[02:35] <HedgeMage> Put in the Ubuntu 8.10 CD and add it to your apt sources, then do the same with the edu addon CD
[02:35] <HedgeMage> Now click the upgrade button and it will prefer the local sources to the remote ones
[02:35] <HedgeMage> it may make you switch between the two CDs once or twice
[02:36] <Trailbrain> how do I add it to apt sources?
[02:37] <HedgeMage> ummm... let me look up the gui method... I'm old school, I do all this from the command line :)
[02:38] <HedgeMage> Trailbrain: From Synaptic choose Edit -> Add CDROM
[02:38] <Trailbrain> I can command line --- cut and paste--I mean
[02:38] <HedgeMage> Trailbrain: note that the disc must be in the drive before you do that so synaptic can find it :)
[02:40] <HedgeMage> Trailbrain: in the command line, you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file, but the gui is probably easier for you :)
[02:45] <Trailbrain> brb
[13:45] <generalsnus> ok, so i have installed edubuntu 8.10 in vmware, with 2 nic's   1 for thinclients and 1 for internet   ... the thinclients work ok, but i am not getting any internet connection. ifconfig tells me that i have IP 192.168.0.254 on both nic's , how can i change one to dhcp? in the network manager it only says "ifupdown"
[14:22] <sbalneav> generalsnus: Should be able to change it in System->Administration->Network
[14:25] <Eeyore-Jr> does edubuntu allow fine control over network services?  printing, chat, internet, etc or must that be done elsewhere?
[14:28] <Eeyore-Jr> hrm, i'd forgotten yesterday was release day
[14:36] <sbalneav> Define "fine control".  Certainly you can start/stop individual services, or block access to them from the network via iptables, or the like.
[14:40] <sbalneav> Eeyore-Jr: Can you be a bit more specific?
[14:42] <Eeyore-Jr> per user
[14:43] <Eeyore-Jr> for example, i want joe to use chat, as he uses it for info on technical questions, but don't want mary or george, because they use it to gossip
[14:44] <sbalneav> Several ways you could accomplish that.
[14:45] <sbalneav> Either through access to the chat program through group permissions
[14:45] <sbalneav> or with some kind of authenticating proxy.
[14:45] <sbalneav> This at a school, or a business?
[14:45] <Eeyore-Jr> business, but will have kids coming in after school
[14:46] <Eeyore-Jr> it's a community lab
[14:46] <Eeyore-Jr> built for use by the community with all free software
[14:46] <Eeyore-Jr> it's really a starting ground for some usablity testing and idea testing
[14:48] <sbalneav> There's multiple different ways to accomplish it.
[14:48] <sbalneav> GIYF
[14:48] <Eeyore-Jr> giyf?
[14:48]  * Eeyore-Jr googles giyf
[14:49] <Eeyore-Jr> bleh
[14:50] <sbalneav> Google is your friend
[14:52] <Eeyore-Jr> google is like a friend with ADHD
[16:00] <Eeyore-Jr> up speed for *untu torrents today about 8 KB/s, for edubuntu add-on 0 KB/s :(
[16:08] <sbalneav> I downloaded the final intrepid CD last night in about 20 minutes.
[16:09] <sbalneav> My speed was great
[21:46] <RickZilla> I just upgraded my ubuntu distro to 8.10, but I also have edubuntu 8.04...did my recent upgrade automatically update edubuntu to 8.10, or should I do that manually?
[21:51] <HedgeMage> RickZilla: how did you upgrade... using the button in the update manager?
[21:52] <RickZilla> HedgeMage:  Yes...I got my answer over in the ubuntu channel...turns out edubuntu upgrades simultaneously
[21:52] <HedgeMage> yep, that's what I was about to tell you
[21:52] <HedgeMage> Happy Halloween!
[21:52]  * HedgeMage waves and departs
[22:07] <Eeyore-Jr> how does ltsp comply with CIPA
[22:08] <Eeyore-Jr> or specifically edubuntu
[22:24] <Lns> Eeyore-Jr: see #ltsp reply..ltsp/edubuntu has nothing to do with complying to content filtering standards
[22:25] <Eeyore-Jr> edubuntu is "education" or geared to that, so i would have expected it to address those type of issues i guess
[22:26] <Lns> Eeyore-Jr: there are plenty of external applications to take care of this that aren't part of the edubuntu project (which is basically a subset of desktop applications and themes that sit on top of ubuntu)
[22:26] <Lns> I guess it wouldn't be out of the question to bring some "recommended" content filtering system into edubuntu, but that's really not the focus of the project