| hggdh | you could manually change your locale from the command line, but I am not sure this would affect X | 00:02 |
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| hggdh | Control Center/Languages? | 00:02 |
| * hggdh cannot test now, busy downloading Latest & Greatest | 00:03 | |
| hggdh | seems like it -- it will download whatever other language you want | 00:04 |
| hggdh | via synaptic | 00:04 |
| hggdh | mrooney, System/Administration/Language Support | 00:05 |
| chrisccoulson | mrooney - you can launch the application with LC_ALL also | 00:05 |
| mrooney | hggdh: yeah, cool, Language Support allows me to download new ones and set the default for NEW users | 00:05 |
| chrisccoulson | for example, if I wanted to run gedit with french locale, i would do "LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 gedit" | 00:06 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: oh, thanks, let me try that! | 00:06 |
| chrisccoulson | you'll obviously still need the language pack installed, but it measn that you don't have to start a whole new session with a different locale | 00:07 |
| hggdh | mrooney, a mix of both options seems appropriate: install whatever other language packs, and then run it from the command line | 00:08 |
| mrooney | yeah, I think this is a good combination! | 00:10 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: do you know how to determine what locale names I have available, as a result? | 00:10 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm, i'm not too sure about that | 00:10 |
| mrooney | For example when I install Slovenian, how do I know what to set LC_ALL equal to | 00:10 |
| mrooney | well let me do some research | 00:11 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: oh, the terminal output tells me the locales generated :) | 00:11 |
| mrooney | of installing it via language support | 00:11 |
| chrisccoulson | you could also do a "ls /usr/lib/locale". all the folders in there correspond to installed locales it seems | 00:12 |
| hggdh | local -a will list all installed | 00:15 |
| hggdh | locale -a | 00:15 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks hggdh - i didn't know that | 00:16 |
| mrooney | thanks hggdh and chrisccoulson, it works perfectly! | 00:16 |
| mrooney | I thought it was going to be harder | 00:16 |
| hggdh | and 'locale -a -v' will give a more detailed list | 00:16 |
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| Hobbsee | hggdh: the installer can be preseeded. | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: as for how to get that preseeding done, inside virtualbox...*shrug* | 02:09 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, thanks. Preseeding the installer would do the trick, since I would (probably) be able to create the virtual disk and boot it from a shell script | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: I presuem so, yes. | 02:11 |
| hggdh | by using VBoxManage, the command line for VBox | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: ro create the virtual drive once, and get it to keep using that disk | 02:11 |
| hggdh | yes, good idea -- otherwise eventually I would run out of fs space ;-) | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:12 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, where can I find info on preseeding the installer? | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: erm, wiki somewhere. i'm not sure, tbh. | 02:13 |
| hggdh | I will find it | 02:13 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization (for 8.04, I think, but it is a start) | 02:18 |
| hggdh | I will look at it next week, and see if I can automate the whole process -- so it can get done in one of my servers, while I am on the road | 02:18 |
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| techno_freak | although my eth is working fine, nm-applet says "Networking disabled" and everytime I boot, I have to manually do sudo dhclient. has anyone been hit by this? | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | techno_freak: is eth0 listed in /etc/network_interfaces? | 04:26 |
| Burgundavia | or has it been turned to manual config? | 04:26 |
| techno_freak | auto eth0 iface eth0 inet manual | 04:27 |
| techno_freak | Burgundavia, ^^ | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | techno_freak: open system > admin > network and make certain roaming mode is enabled | 04:30 |
| techno_freak | Burgundavia, the problem is that I don't have System > Admin > Network | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | umm? | 04:32 |
| Burgundavia | well, if not, basically NMonly manages interfaces that are not listed in /etc/network/interfaces | 04:32 |
| techno_freak | Burgundavia, ya, am commenting out the eth0 lines and trying out | 04:33 |
| Burgundavia | that will work | 04:33 |
| techno_freak | let me try :) | 04:33 |
| maco | Burgundavia: that doesnt exist in intrepid | 04:33 |
| techno_freak | ah, so that's why it has gone | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | maco: oh, right, forgot about that | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | not yet upgraded my main desktop box | 04:35 |
| techno_freak | and why/how do I get a new pan0 interface in my ifconfig :S | 04:35 |
| techno_freak | ok, let me try if it works on its own now | 04:36 |
| techno_freak | Burgundavia, commenting out fixed the problem | 04:41 |
| techno_freak | thanks for the help :) | 04:42 |
| Burgundavia | no worries | 04:42 |
| maco | and now that intrepid has been released, the duplicate-marking fun begins | 05:43 |
| Ohmu | If anyone replied, please reply again. My net just came back up. | 05:53 |
| maco | replied to what? | 05:54 |
| maco | i missed whatever you asked since it was a while ago | 05:54 |
| Ohmu | hmm ubuntu bug-filing doesn't seem that great. I follow the docpage from the #ubuntu-bugs chan header. it's not clear how to launch the bug-reporter app. I went to help -> file a problem. and now it thinks I';m filing a problem about the help app. I try 'ubuntu-bug gnome-ppp' from the command line. and it says 'you must specifya package';. but I just DID. :// | 05:54 |
| Ohmu | I just need to tell the maintainer of gnome-ppp that the init-string textboxes are losing their data. and starting at 2 instead of 1. gee how hard can this be? | 05:54 |
| maco | Ohmu: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-ppp/+filebug try that way | 06:02 |
| maco | i've never used the client thing | 06:02 |
| Ohmu | maco: thanks!! Let me try | 06:17 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
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| thekorn | good morning | 07:33 |
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| joaopinto | hi | 10:41 |
| joaopinto | is anyone aware of a bug reported for sound not working on intrepid after the recent kernel upgrade ? | 10:41 |
| BUGabundo_work | joaopinto: not me | 11:08 |
| joaopinto | I already saw 2 persons reporting on #ubuntu, not sure it was reported on LP | 11:09 |
| bddebian | Boo | 12:32 |
| darkknight | hey i am a newbie to kernel programming and bug fixing.....can anyone provide info as how to learn kernel programming as soon as possible so that I can fix bugs | 13:17 |
| slacker_nl | hello, i have a question regarding a bug | 13:34 |
| slacker_nl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/256142 | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256142 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Flickering with version 2.4.0" [Undecided,Fix released] | 13:34 |
| slacker_nl | is that bug closed? | 13:34 |
| jjesse | a bug marked fix released is closed | 13:37 |
| jjesse | a fix to the bug has been released in an updated package | 13:37 |
| slacker_nl | so I could reopen the bug.. I have the same issue | 13:40 |
| BUGabundo_work | slacker_nl: if it is for the same version, yes | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | if it is diferente version, its best if you open a new one | 13:55 |
| slacker_nl | BUGabundo_work: ahh, just reopened the bug.. :( | 13:56 |
| slacker_nl | the bug is present in 2.4.1 | 13:56 |
| slacker_nl | well, i've added the comment to contact me if reopening the bug was incorrect so i can create a new bug for it | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: ping | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: your postfix is delaying emails... lol | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | I just got your email from yesterday! | 13:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | by the way, can I close the VPN account? | 13:59 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: yes i think so. or were there any issues left? | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | don't know | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | can't test right now | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | I'm doing an rsync on ubuntu dvd 64bits | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | my last got corrupte | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | if you ever need it again, let me know | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | and I'll reactivate the account | 14:02 |
| thekorn_ | /nick thekorn | 14:37 |
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| BUGabundo_work | ROFL thekorn | 14:37 |
| thekorn | ;) | 14:38 |
| psusi | what do you do with an inappropriate bug comment? is there a way to remove the comment and reprimand the user? | 14:45 |
| james_w | psusi: it is possible for the LP admins to do that, but it is rare | 14:51 |
| james_w | it would usually just be spam, or something that shouldn't be hosted on launchpad | 14:52 |
| james_w | I would assume they would if someone went beyond the usual amount of rudeness | 14:52 |
| psusi | well this guy is going off swearing and bitching | 14:52 |
| james_w | I'd ask in #launchpad or file a question on the launchpad project | 14:52 |
| psusi | k | 14:52 |
| james_w | we have no power, it's up to the launchpad admins | 14:52 |
| mrooney | Did the feature of update-manager that gives a link to the changelog when it isn't yet available get turned off for the final release? | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | mrooney: do you mean apt-changes ? | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: I saw it the other day | 15:36 |
| mrooney | BUGabundo_work: perhaps, now it just says the changes aren't yet available, instead of providing a link to the changelog | 15:37 |
| bdmurray | It should also fallback to a launchpad url iirc | 15:37 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: yeah it used to. I wonder if it was that I changed my mirror to something else temporarily, but now that I switched it back and re-updated I still don't get it. I thought maybe it was a pre-release only feature | 15:38 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: what package is it? | 15:38 |
| BUGabundo_work | if it aint apt-changes I don't know what you guys are talking about | 15:38 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: here's one http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/65241/ | 15:39 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: the security updates, base-files, linux*, procps | 15:40 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: yeah I was only getting line 1 | 15:40 |
| mrooney | well, am. | 15:40 |
| mrooney | or more accurately "The list of changes is not available" | 15:40 |
| mrooney | must be cached from the previous mirror I was using | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: its not mirror specific its changelogs.ubuntu.com or launchpad.net | 15:44 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: oh okay, well then I have no idea why since yesterday I only see "The list of changes is not available" | 15:46 |
| mrooney | has anyone seen anything like bug 291626? | 15:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291626 in ubuntu "no battery indicator in Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291626 | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | not here! | 15:51 |
| mrooney | I realized I didn't have one either; I thought it was just that the reporters laptop was fully charged | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | humm now that you talk about it | 15:51 |
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| BUGabundo_work | unpling ac from my laptop didn't lead the light | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | hadn't noticed it yet | 15:52 |
| mrooney | but I didn't get one until I added "Battery Charge Monitor" to gnome-panel | 15:52 |
| mrooney | then g-p-m appeared | 15:52 |
| mrooney | and then I removed the panel applet | 15:52 |
| mrooney | and it was fine | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | mine is missing too | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | oh no... its there! | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | too many icons | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | but my CPU applet is not showing it values | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | ahh removed it and now its working again | 15:54 |
| BUGabundo_work | now, about that battery light!!! | 15:55 |
| arno_b | i have the same problem with networkmanager: i updated from hardy to intrepid and its icon disappeared | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | mrooney: I need to had the battery applet! | 15:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | arno_b: check to see if you have ubuntu-desktop | 15:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | did you upgrade with update manager or distupgrade?= | 15:56 |
| arno_b | i will do that ;) | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | mrooney: I was thinking about the battery light!! mine seems MIA! | 15:57 |
| arno_b | BUGabundo: using update-manager | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | arno_b: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | strange then! | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | have you rebooted? | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | were you using official NM or PPA? | 15:57 |
| arno_b | BUGabundo: it is on my computer at work, I can't do that now | 15:58 |
| mrooney | BUGabundo_work: so it doesn't appear even if you unplug your laptop for a minute? | 15:58 |
| arno_b | BUGabundo: officla nm | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | mrooney: the light not the applet! | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | there are too aplets... not sure which you are missing! | 15:58 |
| mrooney | oh, interesting | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | one from gnome-power-manager | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | and another to just show batt % or time! | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | I have both | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | arno_b: have you rebooted since upgrade? | 15:59 |
| arno_b | BUGabundo_work: yep | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo_work | try starting it from cli: nm-applet | 15:59 |
| arno_b | BUGabundo_work: i can't do that now, but i will | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | saivann_: have you tested your package for bug 270777? | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 270777 in rhythmbox "[SRU] unable to copy music from an MTP device" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270777 | 16:15 |
| saivann_ | dmurray : I tested the uploaded package in intrepid-proposed | 16:18 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : Do you get different results? | 16:18 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : rhythmbox_0.11.6svn20081008-0ubuntu4.1 | 16:18 |
| bdmurray | saivann_: How do you copy the file? Maybe I'm doing it wrong. | 16:19 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : I just connect the MTP device (it appears in the left pannel of rhythmbox), I click on it to list the content of the MTP device, and then I simply drag and drop one music from the MTP device to my rhythmbox library folder (always in the left pannel) | 16:20 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : But you can also double-click on one music in the MTP device list to play it. It generally works well (it sometime jumps between music tracks because of another bug). | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | saivann_: hmm, it's exhibiting the same behavior for me - stuck at 0% transferring | 16:23 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : Are you sure that you are really using rhythmbox version that ends with "4.1" from intrepid-proposed? | 16:24 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : It would be strange because it works well there | 16:24 |
| bdmurray | saivann_: its 4.1 - I'll dig some more | 16:25 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : Oh.. perhaps you should revert "verification-done" to "verification-needed" then | 16:25 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : BTW, what MTP device are you using. I use a Creative Zen Vision M: | 16:27 |
| bdmurray | I think its a Creative Zen MicroPhoto | 16:27 |
| saivann_ | weird that you still have the bug with upstream fix.. | 16:29 |
| bdmurray | Ah, now I've gotten an error message | 16:29 |
| bdmurray | "Could not create a GStreamer sink element to write to ...." | 16:29 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : I've never see this message in the past, do you have all updates installed? | 16:30 |
| bdmurray | saivann_: I'll install the new kernel and stuff an let you know. | 16:31 |
| saivann_ | bdmurray : Or you can use the final release LiveCD to test, mayb | 16:33 |
| arno_b | I want to get a backtrace from a CoreDump file, see bug 289341 . but gdb say 'not a core dump: File format not recognized'. Am I doing something stupid? | 16:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289341 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289341 | 16:59 |
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| lfaraone | Hey, is it an xorg bug if I'm able to boot the live CD, but nothing comes up on the monitor? (like I can switch to a tty, but xinit turns off the display?) | 19:41 |
| * jt66 is away: I'm busy | 19:50 | |
| marrow | Hello | 19:54 |
| bdmurray | marrow: Hi | 19:54 |
| marrow | Am I in the right room to ask whether my problem with intrepid is a bug, or not? | 19:55 |
| bdmurray | Yes, we can try and help you finding that out. | 19:55 |
| marrow | OK, thanks in advance | 19:56 |
| marrow | So here it comes: | 19:56 |
| marrow | After upgrading, my laptop's volume control function keys are messed up | 19:56 |
| marrow | If I try to decrease the volume, it mutes the device completely | 19:57 |
| marrow | If I try to increase the volume, it puts on max. volume | 19:57 |
| marrow | And most of the buttons don't work afterwards | 19:57 |
| marrow | so I have to log out, and log in again | 19:58 |
| marrow | It is like the buttos were stuck (the Fn+VolUp, or Fn+VolDown) | 19:58 |
| marrow | I have googled around, but I guess intrepid is too fresh yet | 19:59 |
| marrow | I had no such problem in Hardy or Fiesty | 19:59 |
| bdmurray | What do you mean most of the buttons don't work afterwards? | 20:01 |
| bdmurray | Is it your whole keyboard that doesn't work? | 20:01 |
| marrow | First I thought so, but strangely the Ctrl+Alt+Del works | 20:02 |
| marrow | But not the letters | 20:03 |
| bdmurray | marrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting might be of some assistance | 20:04 |
| bdmurray | Have you tried recreating it with the Live CD? | 20:04 |
| marrow | Givr me a sec with th | 20:05 |
| marrow | the link | 20:05 |
| marrow | No, I don't have a LiveCD | 20:05 |
| bdmurray | Maybe try the guest account then | 20:06 |
| marrow | I have checked the link, thanks for it | 20:08 |
| bdmurray | It does sound like a bug | 20:09 |
| marrow | It seems I will have to take pretty much time to try to debug this issue | 20:09 |
| marrow | The log in - log out is not too comfortable | 20:09 |
| maco | bdmurray: i think marrow was a dup of bug 271706 | 20:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271706 in linux "Volume control wheel on laptop is sticking in ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271706 | 20:17 |
| maco | lfaraone: does framebuffer stuff display, such as the ubuntu loading bar? | 20:21 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: have you seen that bug? | 20:22 |
| maco | bdmurray: it appears to actually be at least 2 bugs with the same sympton | 20:22 |
| maco | *symptom | 20:22 |
| maco | since for some people, killing gnome-power-manager fixes it, and for others it doesnt | 20:23 |
| maco | well, not fixes, but is a workaround | 20:24 |
| bdmurray | it sounds to me like there are 2 issues - one with a volume control wheel and one with volume keys | 20:24 |
| maco | volume keys being the one that goes with the evdev-could-be-the-cause suggestion? | 20:25 |
| bdmurray | nope, volume keys & g-p-m , wheel and evdev / kernel quirk | 20:25 |
| maco | i was thinking it could be that some of them send ACPI events for the volume changing (and would be affected by g-p-m) whereas others send stuff to X | 20:25 |
| crimsun | huh? | 20:31 |
| crimsun | the volume wheel bug has nothing to do with g-p-m | 20:31 |
| bdmurray | that's what I was saying or trying to at least | 20:32 |
| crimsun | granted, there's a separate race in alsa-lib that complicates things, but that's not the culprit for this bug | 20:32 |
| ogra | crimsun, just wait ... g-p-m might take even that over some day :P | 20:34 |
| crimsun | ogra: yeah, I eagerly await the day I can reassign all audio-related bugs to g-p-m. really. | 20:34 |
| ogra | lol | 20:35 |
| calc | intregrate it all into the kernel and reassign to 'linux' :) | 20:39 |
| ogra | calc, just wait until dbus moved into the kernel | 20:40 |
| ogra | (no, thats no joke) | 20:40 |
| calc | ogra: yea that was the basis of my joke ;-) | 20:41 |
| calc | everything is getting moved into the kernel, lol | 20:41 |
| ogra | modprobe gnome | 20:41 |
| ogra | modprobe -r gnome && modprobe kde | 20:41 |
| ogra | ;) | 20:41 |
| calc | X will be in kernel by 2.6.28 or so (iirc) | 20:42 |
| calc | well mode setting anyway | 20:42 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: I hadn't seen that bug, but there was a keypress bug ben was working on where hotkeys would be sending keypress events as if in a loop | 21:10 |
| bdmurray | ogasawara: I was referring to volume wheel - 271706 | 21:11 |
| angusthefuzz | have any of you seen the influx of bugs involved with the "places" menu not linking to nautilus but to an array of media programs? | 21:31 |
| calc | angusthefuzz: whoa that sounds really weird | 21:31 |
| bdmurray | I think there is a master bug for that | 21:31 |
| angusthefuzz | thanks bdmurray I couldnt find it | 21:32 |
| angusthefuzz | it should be in gnome-panel | 21:32 |
| angusthefuzz | but i couldnt seem to find it | 21:32 |
| bdmurray | angusthefuzz: bug 260492 | 21:36 |
| angusthefuzz | awesome, thanks bdmurray | 21:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 260492 in gnome-panel "opening a directory using an application change associations incorrectly" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260492 | 21:36 |
| maco | angusthefuzz: yes | 21:41 |
| maco | er, nvm, im too late | 21:41 |
| maco | crimsun: some people commenting on that volume wheel & buttons bug said killing g-p-m was a workaround for them | 21:45 |
| crimsun | a workaround doesn't necessarily fix the underlying culprit. | 21:45 |
| crimsun | as you should know by now having been exposed to a sliver of audio bugs. | 21:45 |
| lfaraone | hey maco , crimsun . | 21:59 |
| lfaraone | maco: yes, the framebuffer does come up | 22:00 |
| crimsun | hey, lfaraone. | 22:01 |
| lfaraone | maco: I have some logs. (I'm not at the machine, but I scp'd dmesg, lspci, and syslog) | 22:02 |
| maco | crimsun: well yeah, but i thought maybe that meant it had something to do with it | 22:08 |
| maco | im trying to figure out how to use this bughelper thing | 22:08 |
| bdmurray | maco: What are you trying to do with it? | 22:12 |
| maco | bdmurray: ive never used it before. i know it can be helpful for finding dups, but i'm not sure how to tell it "search for this" | 22:12 |
| maco | i dont understand what it means by "clues" | 22:13 |
| bdmurray | maco: you provide it with some to look for and then a hint to return like 'this might be a dup of bug xyz' | 22:16 |
| bdmurray | I'll be happy to help you try something out | 22:16 |
| jibel | bdmurray: hi, could you point me to an ubuntustudio guru ? there is an important issue when upgrading ubuntustudio-menu from 8.04 to 8.10 in bug 276503 | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 276503 in ubuntustudio-menu "package ubuntustudio-menu 0.10 failed to install/upgrade: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276503 | 22:18 |
| maco | crimsun: would bug 291379 be invalid or still a bug? pulse was looking at the wrong sound card even after he set his soundblaster to default in asoundconf. he said disabling the other one in the BIOS fixed his no-sound issue | 22:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291379 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 8.10 sound system a mess!" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291379 | 22:19 |
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| bdmurray | jibel: either https://launchpad.net/~coryisatm or https://launchpad.net/~luisbg | 22:21 |
| lfaraone | maco: not-a-bug.. | 22:21 |
| jibel | bdmurray: thank you | 22:21 |
| jibel | bdmurray: thank you | 22:22 |
| maco | lfaraone: well if he set his soundblaster as default, disabling the other in the bios shouldn't be strictly necessary, should it? | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | jibel: thanks for working on it! | 22:23 |
| maco | bdmurray: well im looking at the wiki now instead of the manpage, but how long is it supposed to sit there before it spits any info out? | 22:26 |
| bdmurray | maco: it really depends on the query | 22:27 |
| maco | er, oh i was using -p instead of -t | 22:27 |
| bdmurray | for example if you were to query w/o a package it'd search all bugs which would take a bit ;-) | 22:28 |
| maco | it says no clues found, but i put a message for it to print in the quotes like it shows on the wiki. is that not ok now? | 22:28 |
| bdmurray | maco: it'd really help if you showed be the command you are using | 22:28 |
| lfaraone | maco: yeah, it does. | 22:28 |
| maco | bughelper -t nautilus "places menu" "dup of 260492" | 22:29 |
| lfaraone | maco: that's just the way it works/ | 22:29 |
| bdmurray | bughelper -p nautilus -T nautilus "places menu" "dup of 260492" - would be better | 22:30 |
| maco | lfaraone: even if "well that's how it's always been" i dont think PA ignoring what's set as default should be considered not-a-bug | 22:30 |
| maco | oh you need -p and -T? | 22:30 |
| bdmurray | -T is different from -t in that it tries only that clue | 22:31 |
| maco | ok | 22:31 |
| bdmurray | and by default it would query all ubuntu bug reports which would be quite slow | 22:31 |
| maco | it still says "'Checked at [] - no clues found. Check README on how to create one using the bugxml(1) command.'" but its still doing something | 22:31 |
| bdmurray | right, that message is fine | 22:32 |
| maco | ok | 22:32 |
| bdmurray | so now its checking all the open nautilus bugs for the string 'places menu' | 22:33 |
| maco | ok...waiting for it to finish | 22:35 |
| chrisccoulson | maco - i find bughelper is really useful for searching through things like call traces in kernel bugs - if you use the -A option, it searches attachments too | 22:37 |
| maco | chrisccoulson: yeah, i saw that in the manpage, i just wasnt sure how to put all the arguments together into something it will accept instead of spitting "Usage:" out at me | 22:38 |
| chrisccoulson | it does take a very long time if you search through attachments though | 22:39 |
| bdmurray | I'm happy to run queries in the data center for people too (its a bit faster there) | 22:39 |
| chrisccoulson | thats useful to know:) | 22:40 |
| maco | hrm, if someone files a bug about a package failing to install because they hit ctrl+C, but they say the install seemed to be hanging, is that still a bug? | 22:42 |
| maco | i put invalid since they did ^C, rather than it being the process just dying, but they're asking about what about since it was sitting there seeming to do nothing | 22:43 |
| maco | bug 291282 | 22:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291282 in landscape-client "package landscape-common 1.0.23-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291282 | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | maco - it depends. some packages use ucf, which has a known UI problem I think, which leads to some users accidentally cancelling the upgrade | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | there is a bug report tracking that though | 22:44 |
| maco | is that one of those? | 22:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just having a quick look | 22:45 |
| chrisccoulson | the repo's are going a bit slow at the moment!" | 22:47 |
| chrisccoulson | maco - it doesn't look like landscape-client uses ucf | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | so the user probably just interrupted it | 22:48 |
| maco | argh, nobody's paying any attention to the "me too" button | 22:49 |
| maco | can it just say "me too"? they might catch on better that way. | 22:49 |
| mrooney | maco: :) | 22:50 |
| mrooney | launchpad should search for "me too" in the comment and then tell them to use the button if they don't have any extra info | 22:50 |
| chrisccoulson | maco - just looking at that landscape-client bug | 22:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i think there is a potential race in the postinst script, although i don't know if it would cause it to hang for several minutes | 22:54 |
| chrisccoulson | the postinst script uses update-motd, which might get configured after apt tries to configure landscape-client. update-motd really should be a pre-depends of landscape-client | 22:55 |
| maco | ok | 22:56 |
| maco | so reopen as a packaging bug, you think? | 22:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't know if that is the issue though. it might be worth opening a separate report for that, because that is definately a possible trigger for installation/upgrade failures | 22:57 |
| Flare183 | Where did my Floppy Drive goto? | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | try "sudo modprobe floppy" | 23:00 |
| Flare183 | oh ok | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | that's a known bug (somewhere) | 23:01 |
| Flare183 | chrisccoulson: Alright! Thanks! | 23:01 |
| chrisccoulson | the floppy module is not being loaded automatically. as a workaround, add "floppy" to your /etc/modules | 23:01 |
| Flare183 | chrisccoulson: Has the bug already been reported or do you know? | 23:01 |
| Flare183 | chrisccoulson: ok | 23:01 |
| Flare183 | will do | 23:01 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, the bug is already reported, but i can't remember the number off the top of my head | 23:01 |
| Flare183 | ok I"ll subscribe to it | 23:02 |
| maco | you have a floppy drive? O_o i was going to be a smartass and answer "back to 1997" | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i have a floppy drive;) | 23:03 |
| maco | i didnt think they still made computers with those | 23:03 |
| maco | not in at least 5 years | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | the newer desktops we get at work don't have floppy drives, which is a real pain because some of the older kit i have to use at work still has floppy drives, and i still have to rely on them to copy data from them | 23:04 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, i still have an old computer at my parents house with a cassette drive | 23:05 |
| Flare183 | chrisccoulson: Yeah I know exactly what you mean, I have to use my floppy drive still too (I have an old DOS server right now with only a floppy drive) | 23:05 |
| maco | wait...you dont have USB ports on the older computers? O_O | 23:05 |
| maco | the only computer ive seen without a 3.5" floppy was a 486 running Window 3.11 | 23:05 |
| maco | er without a USB prot | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | unfortunately, some of the old kit i have to use at work only have floppy drives (no USB/LAN etc), so the only way of getting data from them is to copy it on to floppy | 23:06 |
| maco | though that didnt have 3.5" floppy either. just 5.25" | 23:06 |
| maco | wow | 23:06 |
| bdmurray | maco: I forgot about the bughelper query did it finish? | 23:14 |
| maco | bdmurray: yes, didnt find anymore dups though | 23:15 |
| bdmurray | maco: it did return some bug numbers though correct? | 23:16 |
| maco | yes | 23:16 |
| bdmurray | cool | 23:18 |
| maco | bdmurray: thanks | 23:20 |
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