| pururu | alternative location to download ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img from? | 03:13 |
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| Burgundavia | pururu: is cdimage down? | 03:15 |
| Burgundavia | some of the mirrors might be carrying the iso | 03:15 |
| pururu | not entirely... but very slow and such\ | 03:15 |
| Burgundavia | welcome to release day | 03:15 |
| pururu | yeah | 03:15 |
| pururu | :) | 03:15 |
| tripzero | what touchscreen driver does ubuntu mobile support? | 03:36 |
| tripzero | it runs xserver 1.5, some drivers don't seem to be available for it yet | 03:36 |
| tripzero | (namely egalax, evtouch for 2) | 03:36 |
| Burgundavia | evtouch is in universe | 03:37 |
| tripzero | i see that, but does it work for xserver 1.5 ? | 03:39 |
| persia | It does/ | 03:40 |
| tripzero | last time I checked, 0.8.7 didn't have support for 1.5 | 03:40 |
| tripzero | oh, cool | 03:40 |
| persia | There's even an FDI file for the eGalax device. | 03:40 |
| tripzero | okay, i'll give it a try... | 03:41 |
| tripzero | btw, does UME have a default navigation app yet? | 03:44 |
| persia | navigation? | 03:45 |
| tripzero | gps? | 03:46 |
| persia | Oh. No. Some people say good things about gpsdrive. | 03:47 |
| persia | There's nothing well tested on that class of device though. | 03:47 |
| tripzero | hmm | 03:48 |
| tripzero | navit need to get into the repo me thinks | 03:48 |
| persia | Might make a good target for intrepid, if there are enough people with the form factor and integrated gps to test something. | 03:48 |
| persia | I've heard good things about navit, but yeah, someone needs to package it. | 03:48 |
| tripzero | they've got a repo with intrepid builds | 03:48 |
| tripzero | I wonder what it would take to get those into ubuntu's repo | 03:49 |
| persia | What's the license for it? | 03:49 |
| tripzero | gpl | 03:49 |
| tripzero | v2 afaik | 03:49 |
| persia | In that case, it probable just needs a dev to review it to get included. | 03:50 |
| tripzero | oh, cool | 03:50 |
| tripzero | is there a mailing list to post to? | 03:50 |
| tripzero | i can pass that info onto the devs... | 03:50 |
| tripzero | i'll talk to them, they probably have already looked into | 03:51 |
| tripzero | it | 03:51 |
| persia | It needs a "needs-packaging" bug in launchpad. | 03:52 |
| persia | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewPackages | 03:52 |
| tripzero | the reason I ask is a bunch of people have gotten navit to run on things like the nokia n810. Seems like it'd be a better fit than gpsdrive | 03:52 |
| tripzero | it certainly is developed more | 03:52 |
| tripzero | gpsdrive hasn't had a release in a while afair | 03:53 |
| persia | I suspect you might be right. The limited testing I've done with gpsdrive seems to expect a larger screen. | 03:53 |
| persia | Sorry : the URL moved. It's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 03:53 |
| tripzero | thanks :) | 03:57 |
| lool | morning | 08:02 |
| Burgundavia | persia: cloudmade is also providing navit xml downloads of OSM data | 08:03 |
| ogra | the last time i looked at navit you had to supply the maps at compile time .... | 10:50 |
| * ogra would like to see elmo if the buildd's download 10G of OSM maps :) | 10:51 | |
| ogra | i heard roadnav started to use OSM too now ... | 10:53 |
| persia | Could create an installer package to pull/update OSM maps though : doesn't have to pass through the buildds. | 11:03 |
| ogra | it compiles them into the binary | 11:07 |
| persia | That's just an annoying architecture. | 11:51 |
| ogra | well, it works if you only want one city or something | 11:58 |
| persia | I guess, but there's no sensible way to do that on a distro basis | 12:00 |
| ogra | nah | 12:01 |
| ogra | it might have changed though, its really a while iago that i ooked at it | 12:01 |
| persia | Someone should write a spec for GPS for MID for Jaunty | 12:02 |
| ogra | roadnav seemed a better shot back then (especially through its real 3D nav mode ... it can put standard vector mas into an isometric view) | 12:02 |
| ogra | but when i looked at roadnav it didnt support OSM, the dev version is supposed to, but i didnt look at that yet | 12:03 |
| ogra | roadnav is really close to a normal car navi system | 12:04 |
| ian_brasil | persia: i did some stuff a while back with gps and bluetooth and gypsy (the new gps daemon) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UMEGuide/ApplicationDevelopment/GPSEnabledWebApplication | 12:25 |
| persia | ian_brasil, So you suggestsoemthing like having udev call gypsy and then add some sensible clients? | 12:27 |
| ian_brasil | yes..gypsy is really nice and geoclue will use this too | 12:28 |
| ian_brasil | geoclue is like a provider of location services to apps and part of gnome mobile | 12:29 |
| ian_brasil | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue | 12:30 |
| persia | Nifty. That makes it sound like there's a good chance that it can be included in Jaunty. Would you mind prepping some packages to push to Jaunty when it opens? | 12:31 |
| ian_brasil | some packages of gypsy are here http://ianlawrence.info/downloads/debian/gypsy-lpia/ | 12:33 |
| ian_brasil | i think geoclue is packeaged for maemo already but i can check | 12:34 |
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| acidfoo | morning | 14:09 |
| ian_brasil | i am writing a small python program using python-dbus that receives a signal and exports an object. Can I have both in the same class and communicating | 15:32 |
| ian_brasil | how to do this ? | 15:32 |
| rhpot19911 | hey guys wanted to report a problem with the lpia 8.10 alternate installer, once it is done installing the base system I get an error ""No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" | 15:52 |
| ogra | lpia 8.10 alternate installer ? | 15:53 |
| rhpot19911 | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/intrepid/release/ | 15:54 |
| rhpot19911 | ubuntu-8.10-alternate-lpia.iso | 15:54 |
| ogra | yes, where do you see an lpia alternate there ? | 15:54 |
| ogra | oh | 15:55 |
| ogra | cdimages ... | 15:55 |
| * ogra was looking at releases.u.c | 15:55 | |
| rhpot19911 | or should I not be trying to use this on my eee :) | 15:55 |
| ogra | not sure that was even tested | 15:55 |
| ogra | persia would know, but he is asleep | 15:56 |
| rhpot19911 | ya I didn't see it on the downloads right from the ubuntu page, figured I'd report what I see | 15:56 |
| rhpot19911 | ogra: should I contact him some other way? | 15:56 |
| ogra | filing a bug might be proper :) | 15:56 |
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| rhpot1991_laptop | ogra: want to point me at the correct location on LP? | 15:57 |
| ogra | just trying to find one :) it might be debian-installer or it might be the linux-lpia kernel package, not sure | 15:58 |
| ogra | the images we built for intrepid are both using the live installer ... | 15:59 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | I'm trying the install again, gonna see if I can manually pick it out | 15:59 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | also this alternate cd is a pain to install from usb, it wants you to have a cdrom no matter what | 16:00 |
| ogra | the only thing i find is bug 274781 atm | 16:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274781 in grub-installer "Please add support for the lpia architecture" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274781 | 16:00 |
| ogra | but thats not appropriate | 16:00 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | hmmm it doesn't seem to want to let me do anything, its either continue without a kernel (broken system), or say no and then it throws you to the step chooser | 16:01 |
| ogra | rhpot1991_laptop, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+filebug go with that for now | 16:01 |
| ogra | though i guess it's an issue with the linux-lpia package in the end | 16:02 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | ya it seems like it | 16:02 |
| ogra | but d-i might be the best starting point | 16:02 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | ogra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/291670 | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291670 in debian-installer "LPIA installer missing kernel" [Undecided,New] | 16:42 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | if you want to throw that at persia | 16:42 |
| ogra | i will, thanks a lot for filing | 16:43 |
| excalibas | hello, what is the best choice of ubuntu for my eee pc? | 17:12 |
| rbelem | excalibas, i think UMPC is better choice | 17:13 |
| ian_brasil | umpc runs great on eeepc | 17:14 |
| excalibas | thanks, that was what i was thinking about, and I get this from here? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-umpc/intrepid/20081030.1/ | 17:16 |
| excalibas | just one more question, how do I put the usb image on the usb? | 17:16 |
| rbelem | excalibas, install the usb-creator | 17:19 |
| excalibas | oh, I just saw the faq and the link on top of the page, sorry about that, and thank you for the pacience :) | 17:20 |
| rbelem | excalibas, no problem ;-) | 17:22 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | what kernel does umpc use? | 17:49 |
| lool | rhpot1991_laptop: 2.6.27-7-generic | 17:55 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | the whole ubuntu mobile scene is kinda confusing currently, about 18 different choices | 17:58 |
| ogra | only two ... | 18:02 |
| ogra | :) | 18:02 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | ogra: plus the eee specific ones which are based off of those 2, but ya I have a better understanding now | 18:05 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | umpc for 7-10, mid for anything below 7 | 18:06 |
| ogra | right | 18:06 |
| ogra | and eee is its own thing, not based on any of ours (yet) | 18:06 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | yep, I've been using eeebuntu with the array.org kernel | 18:06 |
| ogra | they use their own packages and their own archive atm | 18:06 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | works well, but I am playing with 8.10 on there now | 18:07 |
| ogra | fi you want the netbook apps, they are in the archive in 8.10 | 18:07 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | I think eeebuntu is just 8.04 with the array.org kernel and some eee tweaks for the hardware | 18:07 |
| ogra | i'll write a howto the next days that explains how you can easily turn -umpc into a netbook desktop | 18:07 |
| ogra | well, they also use the netbook launcher and window manager tweaks etc | 18:08 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | awn as well | 18:08 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | for the standard | 18:08 |
| ogra | well, an is in the archive as well :) | 18:08 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | hmmm, didn't know that :) | 18:08 |
| ogra | awn-manager | 18:09 |
| ogra | is the package name | 18:09 |
| ogra | oh, no, thats only the manager for the settings | 18:09 |
| ogra | avant-window-navigator :) | 18:10 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | thanks ogra I'll give umpc a try and see how it works on my eee 1000 | 18:18 |
| ogra | for the eee 1000 you might need a special wlan driver | 18:19 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | ogra: ya, this kernel does pretty well with all the drivers: http://www.array.org/ubuntu/ | 18:19 |
| ogra | Activity [oct. 9 - oct. 16 ] | 18:19 |
| ogra | err | 18:19 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | I'd prob go ahead and use that | 18:19 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive | 18:19 |
| ogra | that works with any intrepid kernel | 18:20 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | ya I've installed the realtek drivers as well before | 18:20 |
| ogra | this package uses dkms and is properly integrated with the kernel | 18:21 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | neat, I'll check it out | 18:21 |
| sporter | Hello, anyone able to answer a quick question about customizing ubuntu MID? | 18:26 |
| excalibas | I just tried umpc on my eee (I used the version from the link on the title) but it seems wifi is not working, shoud I use this array.org kernel or there is a way to fix this? | 18:32 |
| ogra | excalibas, which eee model ? | 18:33 |
| ogra | for eee 1000 there is a dirver at https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive | 18:33 |
| ogra | *driver | 18:33 |
| excalibas | ogra: 900 | 18:33 |
| ogra | hmm, there is a /debs directory on the usb key, check it :) | 18:34 |
| ogra | install the package in there, after a reboot your wlan should work | 18:34 |
| excalibas | ogra: ok, so I make an instalation first right this is not from the live usb | 18:37 |
| ogra | right | 18:40 |
| ogra | install, plug in the usb key, if the filemanager ppos up, go to the /debs dir on te key, doubleclick the package and follow the gdebi installer | 18:41 |
| excalibas | ok, thanks a lot ogra, I am installing... ... ... | 19:15 |
| ogra | :) | 19:16 |
| pururu | ... card reader dosnt work on aspire1 | 20:37 |
| excalibas | thanks a lot people, see you | 21:14 |
| * ogra wonders if he now can assume it worked :) | 21:16 | |
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