| toorima | are there any big feature differences between 8.04 and 8.10? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| hads | Seeker`: Code up an option and submit it as a patch | 00:13 |
| Seeker` | hads: could do | 00:16 |
| Seeker` | hads: never looked at the myth internals before | 00:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Whos ready for some awesomeness? | 00:19 |
| === tgm4883_laptop changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 8.10 Now Released http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/release :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question. Test new features here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751668 | ||
| tgm4883_laptop | !diggit | 00:23 |
| Zinn | Have you dugg it? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Is_Here | 00:23 |
| r3z | tgm4883_laptop, check priv msg. | 00:31 |
| a1fa | yo | 01:28 |
| a1fa | after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted | 01:28 |
| a1fa | damn | 01:30 |
| a1fa | mirrors are hosed up | 01:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | a1fa, how so? | 01:33 |
| a1fa | after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted | 02:25 |
| a1fa | what gives? | 02:25 |
| foxbuntu | a1fa, I dont know anything about the xbox frontend, however word of advice, dont ask the same question over and over in an irc channel its not polite, also asking a question like "what gives" will lower your chances of getting a valuable response. | 02:29 |
| pocketcookies | I installed mythbuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.10. Is this the correct place to ask for help with it? | 03:39 |
| frank23 | pocketcookies: yes it is | 03:46 |
| pocketcookies | Thanks. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and added Mythbuntu onto it (from the instructions at http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu). After going through mythtv-setup, when I try to use mythtvfrontend to watch tv, it either freezes (requiring a ctrl+alt+backspace to get everything working again) or causes the screen to briefly flash black (as if it's trying to play TV) before showing the main screen again. | 03:51 |
| rhpot1991 | !logs | pocketcookies | 03:52 |
| Zinn | pocketcookies: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ | 03:52 |
| rhpot1991 | check them, see if there is anything good in there | 03:52 |
| rhpot1991 | your storage dir isn't in your home dir is it? | 03:52 |
| pocketcookies | It seems to be /var/lib/mythtv/recordings | 03:53 |
| rhpot1991 | thats the default | 03:53 |
| pocketcookies | The end of the log seems to list two errors, "unknown video codec..." and "unknown audio codec..." | 03:54 |
| pocketcookies | I think I may have figured it out. I had accidentally set up my card as a V4L card when it should have been an mjpeg card. | 03:58 |
| pocketcookies | rhpot1991: There was one other thing that was slightly troubling me. I have two tuner cards installed in my computer (a pvr150 and hvr1800). The first time I started Ubuntu, the pvr150 was registered as /dev/video0. Now, it's registered as /dev/video2. | 04:00 |
| pocketcookies | I'm not sure if this was a one-time thing but is there a way to force Ubuntu to assign the cards to a single device file consistently? | 04:01 |
| r3z | pocketcookies, I remember hearing something about hard setting a value to make them always show up correctly but I will see if I can find it ;) | 04:24 |
| ajhtiredwolf | SOmething weird has happened to me, the mythbuntu control centre seems to have dissapeared... all of the things that i enabled with it like the plugins and the extra themes are still there, but it is gone, its not listed under administrator or in the front end | 04:25 |
| pocketcookies | r3z: Thank you very much. | 04:25 |
| thedarkone2 | whatz diff in 8.10? | 04:35 |
| toorima | pocketcookies: I blacklist the modules for my tunercards then load them in /etc/modules that stoped it from happening for me | 04:38 |
| pocketcookies | toorima: Thanks. I guess I'll try that. | 04:39 |
| pocketcookies | I can't find a /etc/modules. Where should I tell it to load them? | 04:41 |
| toorima | blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and load in /etc/modules | 04:43 |
| pocketcookies | Ok. | 04:44 |
| pocketcookies | I really appreciate this. | 04:44 |
| toorima | the module for the pvr150 is ivtv, dunno what the module is for your other card | 04:44 |
| toorima | np | 04:44 |
| pocketcookies | I think it's something like cx2341x or something. | 04:44 |
| toorima | u can probably find it in dmesg, should say what module it uses | 04:45 |
| toorima | dmesg | grep cx | 04:46 |
| toorima | that should give you something | 04:46 |
| pocketcookies | Looks like it's cx23885. | 04:49 |
| toorima | seems right | 04:51 |
| pocketcookies | I suppose I'll try it. Thanks again. | 04:52 |
| Decepticon | are you guys seeding mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso | 05:03 |
| Decepticon | its being very slow | 05:03 |
| Decepticon | why does mythbuntu not support nvidia geforce fx 5200 | 07:13 |
| Decepticon | do i have to use the alt insstall cd? | 07:13 |
| Decepticon | can someone please tell me what is 'additional roles' 'frontend' 'master backend' and 'slave backend' for when installing via the alt cd for 8.10, (the regular livecd doesnt work, X gives a black screen for my nvidia geforce fx 5200) | 07:31 |
| Decepticon | so the livecd is actually useless for me because i cant get the gui to come up and i have to install via alt cd and im going to have to answer every config question manually instead of it being autodetected as in the livecd | 07:35 |
| toorima | well the role is what setup you have, is it a combined backend/frontend or what are you seting up | 07:39 |
| toorima | or do you have one machine doing all the recording and an other machine by the tv to play stuff with | 07:40 |
| Decepticon | one machine | 07:44 |
| Decepticon | i just installed everything | 07:44 |
| Decepticon | in ubuntu 8.10, same thing happened | 07:44 |
| Decepticon | i got a black screen instead of a gui | 07:44 |
| Decepticon | i had to installe the nvidida drivers with envyng-core | 07:45 |
| toorima | you probably need the legacy driver, think support has been droped for fx 5200 in the regular driver | 07:45 |
| Decepticon | my question is, because of my graphics card mess up, does this mean im left manually configuring everything for mythtv | 07:46 |
| toorima | with a one machine setup u dont have to care about additional roles | 07:46 |
| Decepticon | instead of as it would have been installed normally with a workinggraphics card through the livecd | 07:47 |
| toorima | the actuall mythtv config starts when you have a desktop, so that part will be the same, its the actuall os install that will be non gui with alt cd | 07:48 |
| orkid | part | 08:21 |
| Decepticon | i ran mythtv-setup and im being asked about database configuration, i havent changed a single field and im getting a error when i finish databse configuraiton on step 2, a box comes up saying 'cannot login to database?' with a ok button and it reutrns you yo database config | 08:27 |
| Decepticon | pelase help | 08:27 |
| Decepticon | ive never been able to get past this step with installing mythtv on ubuntu or even using the alt install cd mythtv-setup program | 08:27 |
| Decepticon | can someone tell me how to make this error not happen? im assuming it means mysql is not started. so how do i start mysql so that i can run through the setup for once without a ereror | 08:30 |
| sebrock | I dist-upgrade from 8.04.1 will work fine? | 09:24 |
| leo74 | hi all | 10:28 |
| leo74 | may I use this TV tuner for Mythbuntu | 10:29 |
| leo74 | http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=463 | 10:29 |
| leo74 | ? | 10:29 |
| leo74 | AVerTV Satellite Trinity | 10:29 |
| leo74 | A707 | 10:30 |
| Decepticon | i have a pvr150, im in mythtv-setup, and im doing the channel scan but im getting nothing in the results... timeout scanning us-cable 2 -- no signal | 11:08 |
| leo74 | AVerTV Satellite Trinity | 11:10 |
| directhex | linuxtv.org wiki. look there for device compatibility | 11:12 |
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| r3z` | speed: 0 B/s down - 2.4 M/s up | 13:23 |
| r3z` | tgm4883_laptop, Seeding speed ;) | 13:23 |
| === r3z` is now known as r3z | ||
| === clev is now known as clever | ||
| jphillip | !mysql | Decepticon | 14:57 |
| Zinn | Decepticon: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common | 14:57 |
| jphillip | !help | 15:39 |
| Zinn | Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs. Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi | 15:40 |
| MassiveBlue | hi everyone | 16:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hi | 16:34 |
| superm1 | !hi | MassiveBlue | 16:35 |
| Zinn | MassiveBlue: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? | 16:35 |
| MassiveBlue | yes you can :-D i installed mythbuntu some minutes ago. i have a TT S-2300 (or Hauppauge Nexus S) in this box, can I use the TVout of this card? it's much better than the tvout the nvidia-card is providing | 16:38 |
| jphillip | I like how no one questions the $nick | 16:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | jphillip, it's cause it's too awesome | 16:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | that would be like questioning chuck norris | 16:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you would just get a round house kick to the face | 16:39 |
| superm1 | MassiveBlue, generally the tv out on those types of cards is nice for mpeg2 content at specific resolutions, so before starting, do you have anything else you like to watch? | 16:40 |
| superm1 | like DVD's, HD content, mpeg4 files, etc? | 16:40 |
| jphillip | games don't work well either | 16:40 |
| MassiveBlue | superm1: yes, i want to watch MPEG4-movies too. i was running easyvdr (linvdr) before and used the tvout of the TT-card for this, if this helps | 16:44 |
| MassiveBlue | superm1: but watching TV via DVB-S is most importing for me | 16:45 |
| thedarkone2 | is mythstream fixed in 8.10? | 16:46 |
| superm1 | MassiveBlue, if you are wanting to watch mepg-4 I would say just use nvidia tv out. You will overall have a better experience | 16:48 |
| superm1 | it's quite frustrating otherwise with the tv out on these mpeg2 acceleration cards | 16:48 |
| superm1 | thedarkone2, should be fine.... | 16:48 |
| thedarkone2 | in 8.04 it stoped working | 16:49 |
| MassiveBlue | superm1: ok, i could live without watching mpeg4. the box will be used for watching DVB-S mainly | 16:51 |
| superm1 | MassiveBlue, then if you really want to go down this path, you'll have to try to use xserver-xorg-video-ivtv to do it (provided your card is supported by this type of functionality). Since it's a DVB-S card, i'm almost thinking it might not be. | 16:52 |
| thedarkone2 | massiveblue i have mine setup for mpeg2 dvb-s on dishnet | 16:52 |
| superm1 | but talk to people who know for sure, seems thedarkone2 would be better than I here :) | 16:53 |
| MassiveBlue | superm1: ok, thank you for your quick answer | 16:54 |
| MassiveBlue | thedarkone2: i'm living in europe and using astra. do you use such a setup? do i have to install the xserver-xorg-video-ivtv package? | 16:57 |
| thedarkone2 | well i am usa | 16:57 |
| MassiveBlue | ok, i will try | 16:58 |
| thedarkone2 | anyone know why i get a dcopserver error | 17:15 |
| Decepticon | i did dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common, ran mythtv-setup, ran the mythfilldatabase step to completion, now im looking at the mythbuntu desktop (the black looking desktop) and theres aicon there that says "information available" | 17:31 |
| Decepticon | when i click it, it says i should do dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database over | 17:31 |
| Decepticon | wtf, why | 17:31 |
| Decepticon | "mythtv-database reconfigure required" "the mythtv database package was upgraded or intalled but was unable to contact a mysql server." | 17:31 |
| Decepticon | "if you were in the process of dist-ubradping . this is normal as mysql server is stopped for a portiion o f the uprgrade. if this is a fresh package installlatiuon, verify that mysql server is installed anr dunning. once you have verifiied the server is running you can reconfigure the package by running sudo dpkg reconfigure mythtv-dtabase | 17:32 |
| Decepticon | if your root password ofr location of the myseql server are nonstandard you can also update them via sudo dpkg reconfigure mtythtv-database | 17:33 |
| Decepticon | how can i test if my mysql is not working properly at this juncture, i thought i already managed to fix everything with sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 | 17:33 |
| Decepticon | i can even do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv and get a prompt | 17:33 |
| Decepticon | so whats the big deal | 17:33 |
| Decepticon | please advise | 17:34 |
| Decepticon | what is my next step | 17:34 |
| laga | hey. | 17:45 |
| superm1 | !hi | laga | 17:46 |
| Zinn | laga: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? | 17:46 |
| superm1 | ;) | 17:46 |
| laga | !stab superm1 | 17:47 |
| * Zinn stabs superm1 with a rusty spork. | 17:47 | |
| jphillip | Decepticon leave out the p | 17:50 |
| jphillip | if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what | 17:51 |
| Decepticon | mysql -u mythtv? | 17:51 |
| jphillip | ya it should then either prompt you or give you a better hint | 17:51 |
| Decepticon | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO) | 17:51 |
| jphillip | there you go, you didn't set things up right, cause there is no user | 17:51 |
| Decepticon | i set a password, the password is 'mythtv' | 17:51 |
| jphillip | password for what? | 17:51 |
| Decepticon | mysql | 17:51 |
| jphillip | this is normal confusion, mysql will ask you for a root mysql password | 17:52 |
| Decepticon | i set them both to the same thing | 17:52 |
| jphillip | which you then need to specify when mythtv is installing | 17:52 |
| Decepticon | the myttv username/password, and the root mysql pass | 17:52 |
| jphillip | and then it makes a mythtv user and the password will be in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt | 17:52 |
| superm1 | jphillip, do you know if we have a bug opened about this confusion? | 17:52 |
| superm1 | i convinced kirkland to fix it during jaunty, but i need to point him at it | 17:52 |
| jphillip | superm1 I'm not entirely sure | 17:52 |
| jphillip | its not really a bug, just more of a what password is where deal | 17:53 |
| jphillip | it works once you know whats going on, but its confusing as all hell | 17:53 |
| superm1 | well it's a bug with how mythtv's package handles it | 17:53 |
| jphillip | also if you don't reconfigure both mythtv-database and mythtv-common your mysql.txt is out of sync | 17:53 |
| Decepticon | i opted to use a simple password | 17:54 |
| Decepticon | for the root pass for mysql, and the mythtv user's password | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | i deleted the mysql.txt file and the xml file in ~/.mythtv and did dpkg-recomnfigure everything | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | i did dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | i did mythtv-setup | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | also went through mythfilldatabase | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | now i ran the frontend | 17:55 |
| Decepticon | but when i hit watch tv, i get black screen | 17:56 |
| Decepticon | http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f481ef49a | 18:00 |
| jphillip | someone correct me if I am wrong, but you don't ever choose the mysql mythtv password, that gets generated | 18:02 |
| jphillip | !blank% | Decepticon | 18:02 |
| Zinn | Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory | 18:02 |
| Decepticon | i was having trouble getting it to work with a blank password | 18:02 |
| Decepticon | so i opted to use a easy password | 18:02 |
| jphillip | if your mysql is worked out, that may be your current problem | 18:03 |
| jphillip | I'd make sure your mysql is correct first, get to the point where you can login with the mysql command to the mythconverg db | 18:03 |
| Decepticon | im getting a primpt if i do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv | 18:03 |
| Decepticon | whats wrong with that | 18:03 |
| jphillip | should be able to do show tables; and see stuff in there | 18:03 |
| jphillip | ok if you enter the password do you get in? | 18:03 |
| Decepticon | yes im given a prompt | 18:04 |
| jphillip | throw a mythconverg at the end | 18:04 |
| jphillip | do you get in though | 18:04 |
| Decepticon | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. | 18:04 |
| Decepticon | Your MySQL connection id is 216 | 18:04 |
| Decepticon | Server version: 5.0.67-0ubuntu6 (Ubuntu) | 18:04 |
| Decepticon | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. | 18:04 |
| jphillip | not does it prompt you | 18:04 |
| jphillip | if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what | 18:04 |
| jphillip | throw a mythconverg on the end | 18:04 |
| jphillip | then do show tables; | 18:04 |
| jphillip | and see if there are things in there, if so, you are good | 18:04 |
| Decepticon | shows a whole bunch of stuff | 18:05 |
| Decepticon | recordedprogram | | 18:05 |
| Decepticon | | recordedrating | | 18:05 |
| Decepticon | | recordedseek | | 18:05 |
| Decepticon | etc | 18:05 |
| Decepticon | 81 rows in set (0.00 sec) | 18:05 |
| jphillip | Decepticon then your mysql setup is fine | 18:11 |
| jphillip | check this now: | 18:11 |
| jphillip | !blank% | Decepticon | 18:11 |
| Zinn | Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory | 18:11 |
| Decepticon | any idea where my recording directory is | 18:11 |
| jphillip | you should have set it up in mythtv-setup | 18:12 |
| Decepticon | i remember it being /var/lib/mythtv/ | 18:12 |
| Decepticon | cant be sure | 18:12 |
| jphillip | go and double check | 18:12 |
| Decepticon | ls -laF /var/lib/mythtv/ | 18:23 |
| Decepticon | drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2008-10-31 14:19 recordings/ | 18:24 |
| Decepticon | jphillip well its chmodded properly | 18:24 |
| Decepticon | so im not sure why im getting a black screen | 18:26 |
| === clever is now known as clev | ||
| MassiveBlue | does mythtv support slowmotion? my livetv looks so :) | 18:45 |
| Decepticon | i cant get any signal, when im doing channel scan in mythtv-setup. im getting 0% signal strength in the scan for try-all. it says timeout scanning try-all 38 -- no signal | 18:54 |
| Decepticon | can someone please help me | 19:03 |
| cbovy | hi all, anyone can help me debugging mythtv on Ubuntu? I want to provide some more debugging information to ticket #5832 | 20:18 |
| superm1 | cbovy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 20:25 |
| superm1 | that's generally the most useful way to get debugging symbols, traces, and all that fun stuff | 20:25 |
| cbovy | superml: I'll try it. I tried to recompile deb myself to include debug symbols, but this works better. :-) | 20:28 |
| superm1 | yeah this is the much easier way | 20:29 |
| superm1 | but if you want to do it that way with symbols "in the deb", there is one or two lines that you need to change to do it that way | 20:29 |
| cbovy | just remove dh_strip in rules? | 20:30 |
| cbovy | superml: I installed mythtv-backend-dbgsym and libmyth-0.21-0-dbgsym, but I'm unable to get any debug symbols. | 20:40 |
| superm1 | cbovy, no not removing dh_strip | 20:40 |
| superm1 | DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip | 20:41 |
| superm1 | that env variable should do it | 20:41 |
| cbovy | thanks! I'll give it a try. | 20:42 |
| === Mazga397 is now known as Mazga | ||
| larstr | what is the best place to specify that you have a PAL TV? I've tried editing xorg.conf, but still I get no sigar | 22:53 |
| KjetilK | larstr: dunno, but come over to #mythtv-norge too :-) | 22:56 |
| wilberfan | Just installed myth on top of ubuntu 8.10... i notice that the xorg.conf file looks COMPLETELY different... Will I be able to use the xorg.conf setup from my 8.04 mythbuntu setup? | 23:09 |
| wilberfan | This is what it looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65432/ | 23:09 |
| wilberfan | The Hardy myth was perfect: My TV was one screen, and the monitor connected to the backend machine was a 2nd screen... | 23:10 |
| directhex | yes, it ought to work, but i'd consider removing the input sections & allowing autoconf of those | 23:10 |
| wilberfan | directhex, cool. how would that work? | 23:11 |
| wilberfan | remove the "Section 'Input Device'" sections, and then run....what? | 23:12 |
| directhex | automatically. no InputDevice sections needed | 23:12 |
| wilberfan | so just copy that xorg.conf file over...and delete the InputDevice sections? then...reboot...or...? | 23:12 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | hello everyone. i wonder if anyone have some time to try to help my. tried to upgrade my mythbuntu to 8.10 and something seems to have gone terrible wrong | 23:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | help me | 23:15 |
| wilberfan | ouch. i'm glad, then, that i left my 8.04 alone and did a clean install of 8.10 on a separate partition! | 23:17 |
| wilberfan | :O | 23:17 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | mm, i whish i never tried to do that upgrade. i'm not that good with linux or ubuntu to figure out what is happening | 23:18 |
| wilberfan | yeah, i'm pretty new at this, too... | 23:19 |
| hads | If you ask your question and/or explain what is happening someone may be able to help. | 23:19 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | well, i could say as much that the system wont start up. now i get to the screen with the mythbuntu logo and below that is the text Performing autostart... been there for atleast 20 minutes now | 23:20 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | after some time i was able to login to ssh, and doing a ps -A it seems that i have about 50-100 processes with jockey-gtk,mythfrontend.re, the PID counter is currently at 16197 and counting. It feels like some startscript or something is in a loop | 23:22 |
| hads | pstree may help you find out what is starting everything | 23:24 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | i'll try that | 23:24 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | my system disk just wont stop working, so everything i'm trying to do takes forever | 23:25 |
| hads | `sudo invoke-rc-d gdm stop` may help that. | 23:25 |
| hads | It will stop X windows therefore stopping child processes of that which is likely where the processs are spawned from. | 23:26 |
| wilberfan | Here's the xorg.conf I want to try (I commented out the "Input" lines) http://paste.ubuntu.com/65436/ | 23:27 |
| hads | Though you may wat to see what is starting everything before you kill it all if you can | 23:27 |
| wilberfan | Does it look okay? | 23:27 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | waiting for some output from pstree now =) | 23:27 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | hmm, that was not easy to read | 23:28 |
| wilberfan | okay...i'm just gonna jump in and try that xorg file... | 23:31 |
| wilberfan | :\ | 23:31 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | does this make any sense? http://pastebin.com/d24420f98 | 23:31 |
| hads | Not to me, weird characters. | 23:35 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | mm | 23:36 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | i guess it is not possible to revert a upgrade back to 8.04 without reinstall? | 23:55 |
| MythbuntuGuest86 | look at this, it is crazy. http://pastebin.com/d757b128d | 23:57 |
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