[00:00] are there any big feature differences between 8.04 and 8.10? [00:13] Seeker`: Code up an option and submit it as a patch [00:16] hads: could do [00:16] hads: never looked at the myth internals before [00:19] Whos ready for some awesomeness? === tgm4883_laptop changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 8.10 Now Released http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/release :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question. Test new features here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751668 [00:23] !diggit [00:23] Have you dugg it? http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Is_Here [00:31] tgm4883_laptop, check priv msg. [01:28] yo [01:28] after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted [01:30] damn [01:30] mirrors are hosed up [01:33] a1fa, how so? [02:25] after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted [02:25] what gives? [02:29] a1fa, I dont know anything about the xbox frontend, however word of advice, dont ask the same question over and over in an irc channel its not polite, also asking a question like "what gives" will lower your chances of getting a valuable response. [03:39] I installed mythbuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.10. Is this the correct place to ask for help with it? [03:46] pocketcookies: yes it is [03:51] Thanks. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and added Mythbuntu onto it (from the instructions at http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu). After going through mythtv-setup, when I try to use mythtvfrontend to watch tv, it either freezes (requiring a ctrl+alt+backspace to get everything working again) or causes the screen to briefly flash black (as if it's trying to play TV) before showing the main screen again. [03:52] !logs | pocketcookies [03:52] pocketcookies: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [03:52] check them, see if there is anything good in there [03:52] your storage dir isn't in your home dir is it? [03:53] It seems to be /var/lib/mythtv/recordings [03:53] thats the default [03:54] The end of the log seems to list two errors, "unknown video codec..." and "unknown audio codec..." [03:58] I think I may have figured it out. I had accidentally set up my card as a V4L card when it should have been an mjpeg card. [04:00] rhpot1991: There was one other thing that was slightly troubling me. I have two tuner cards installed in my computer (a pvr150 and hvr1800). The first time I started Ubuntu, the pvr150 was registered as /dev/video0. Now, it's registered as /dev/video2. [04:01] I'm not sure if this was a one-time thing but is there a way to force Ubuntu to assign the cards to a single device file consistently? [04:24] pocketcookies, I remember hearing something about hard setting a value to make them always show up correctly but I will see if I can find it ;) [04:25] SOmething weird has happened to me, the mythbuntu control centre seems to have dissapeared... all of the things that i enabled with it like the plugins and the extra themes are still there, but it is gone, its not listed under administrator or in the front end [04:25] r3z: Thank you very much. [04:35] whatz diff in 8.10? [04:38] pocketcookies: I blacklist the modules for my tunercards then load them in /etc/modules that stoped it from happening for me [04:39] toorima: Thanks. I guess I'll try that. [04:41] I can't find a /etc/modules. Where should I tell it to load them? [04:43] blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and load in /etc/modules [04:44] Ok. [04:44] I really appreciate this. [04:44] the module for the pvr150 is ivtv, dunno what the module is for your other card [04:44] np [04:44] I think it's something like cx2341x or something. [04:45] u can probably find it in dmesg, should say what module it uses [04:46] dmesg | grep cx [04:46] that should give you something [04:49] Looks like it's cx23885. [04:51] seems right [04:52] I suppose I'll try it. Thanks again. [05:03] are you guys seeding mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso [05:03] its being very slow [07:13] why does mythbuntu not support nvidia geforce fx 5200 [07:13] do i have to use the alt insstall cd? [07:31] can someone please tell me what is 'additional roles' 'frontend' 'master backend' and 'slave backend' for when installing via the alt cd for 8.10, (the regular livecd doesnt work, X gives a black screen for my nvidia geforce fx 5200) [07:35] so the livecd is actually useless for me because i cant get the gui to come up and i have to install via alt cd and im going to have to answer every config question manually instead of it being autodetected as in the livecd [07:39] well the role is what setup you have, is it a combined backend/frontend or what are you seting up [07:40] or do you have one machine doing all the recording and an other machine by the tv to play stuff with [07:44] one machine [07:44] i just installed everything [07:44] in ubuntu 8.10, same thing happened [07:44] i got a black screen instead of a gui [07:45] i had to installe the nvidida drivers with envyng-core [07:45] you probably need the legacy driver, think support has been droped for fx 5200 in the regular driver [07:46] my question is, because of my graphics card mess up, does this mean im left manually configuring everything for mythtv [07:46] with a one machine setup u dont have to care about additional roles [07:47] instead of as it would have been installed normally with a workinggraphics card through the livecd [07:48] the actuall mythtv config starts when you have a desktop, so that part will be the same, its the actuall os install that will be non gui with alt cd [08:21] part [08:27] i ran mythtv-setup and im being asked about database configuration, i havent changed a single field and im getting a error when i finish databse configuraiton on step 2, a box comes up saying 'cannot login to database?' with a ok button and it reutrns you yo database config [08:27] pelase help [08:27] ive never been able to get past this step with installing mythtv on ubuntu or even using the alt install cd mythtv-setup program [08:30] can someone tell me how to make this error not happen? im assuming it means mysql is not started. so how do i start mysql so that i can run through the setup for once without a ereror [09:24] I dist-upgrade from 8.04.1 will work fine? [10:28] hi all [10:29] may I use this TV tuner for Mythbuntu [10:29] http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=463 [10:29] ? [10:29] AVerTV Satellite Trinity [10:30] A707 [11:08] i have a pvr150, im in mythtv-setup, and im doing the channel scan but im getting nothing in the results... timeout scanning us-cable 2 -- no signal [11:10] AVerTV Satellite Trinity [11:12] linuxtv.org wiki. look there for device compatibility === |gbutters| is now known as gbutters [13:23] speed: 0 B/s down - 2.4 M/s up [13:23] tgm4883_laptop, Seeding speed ;) === r3z` is now known as r3z === clev is now known as clever [14:57] !mysql | Decepticon [14:57] Decepticon: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [15:39] !help [15:40] Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs. Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi [16:34] hi everyone [16:34] hi [16:35] !hi | MassiveBlue [16:35] MassiveBlue: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [16:38] yes you can :-D i installed mythbuntu some minutes ago. i have a TT S-2300 (or Hauppauge Nexus S) in this box, can I use the TVout of this card? it's much better than the tvout the nvidia-card is providing [16:38] I like how no one questions the $nick [16:39] jphillip, it's cause it's too awesome [16:39] that would be like questioning chuck norris [16:39] you would just get a round house kick to the face [16:40] MassiveBlue, generally the tv out on those types of cards is nice for mpeg2 content at specific resolutions, so before starting, do you have anything else you like to watch? [16:40] like DVD's, HD content, mpeg4 files, etc? [16:40] games don't work well either [16:44] superm1: yes, i want to watch MPEG4-movies too. i was running easyvdr (linvdr) before and used the tvout of the TT-card for this, if this helps [16:45] superm1: but watching TV via DVB-S is most importing for me [16:46] is mythstream fixed in 8.10? [16:48] MassiveBlue, if you are wanting to watch mepg-4 I would say just use nvidia tv out. You will overall have a better experience [16:48] it's quite frustrating otherwise with the tv out on these mpeg2 acceleration cards [16:48] thedarkone2, should be fine.... [16:49] in 8.04 it stoped working [16:51] superm1: ok, i could live without watching mpeg4. the box will be used for watching DVB-S mainly [16:52] MassiveBlue, then if you really want to go down this path, you'll have to try to use xserver-xorg-video-ivtv to do it (provided your card is supported by this type of functionality). Since it's a DVB-S card, i'm almost thinking it might not be. [16:52] massiveblue i have mine setup for mpeg2 dvb-s on dishnet [16:53] but talk to people who know for sure, seems thedarkone2 would be better than I here :) [16:54] superm1: ok, thank you for your quick answer [16:57] thedarkone2: i'm living in europe and using astra. do you use such a setup? do i have to install the xserver-xorg-video-ivtv package? [16:57] well i am usa [16:58] ok, i will try [17:15] anyone know why i get a dcopserver error [17:31] i did dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common, ran mythtv-setup, ran the mythfilldatabase step to completion, now im looking at the mythbuntu desktop (the black looking desktop) and theres aicon there that says "information available" [17:31] when i click it, it says i should do dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database over [17:31] wtf, why [17:31] "mythtv-database reconfigure required" "the mythtv database package was upgraded or intalled but was unable to contact a mysql server." [17:32] "if you were in the process of dist-ubradping . this is normal as mysql server is stopped for a portiion o f the uprgrade. if this is a fresh package installlatiuon, verify that mysql server is installed anr dunning. once you have verifiied the server is running you can reconfigure the package by running sudo dpkg reconfigure mythtv-dtabase [17:33] if your root password ofr location of the myseql server are nonstandard you can also update them via sudo dpkg reconfigure mtythtv-database [17:33] how can i test if my mysql is not working properly at this juncture, i thought i already managed to fix everything with sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 [17:33] i can even do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv and get a prompt [17:33] so whats the big deal [17:34] please advise [17:34] what is my next step [17:45] hey. [17:46] !hi | laga [17:46] laga: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [17:46] ;) [17:47] !stab superm1 [17:47] * Zinn stabs superm1 with a rusty spork. [17:50] Decepticon leave out the p [17:51] if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what [17:51] mysql -u mythtv? [17:51] ya it should then either prompt you or give you a better hint [17:51] ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO) [17:51] there you go, you didn't set things up right, cause there is no user [17:51] i set a password, the password is 'mythtv' [17:51] password for what? [17:51] mysql [17:52] this is normal confusion, mysql will ask you for a root mysql password [17:52] i set them both to the same thing [17:52] which you then need to specify when mythtv is installing [17:52] the myttv username/password, and the root mysql pass [17:52] and then it makes a mythtv user and the password will be in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [17:52] jphillip, do you know if we have a bug opened about this confusion? [17:52] i convinced kirkland to fix it during jaunty, but i need to point him at it [17:52] superm1 I'm not entirely sure [17:53] its not really a bug, just more of a what password is where deal [17:53] it works once you know whats going on, but its confusing as all hell [17:53] well it's a bug with how mythtv's package handles it [17:53] also if you don't reconfigure both mythtv-database and mythtv-common your mysql.txt is out of sync [17:54] i opted to use a simple password [17:55] for the root pass for mysql, and the mythtv user's password [17:55] i deleted the mysql.txt file and the xml file in ~/.mythtv and did dpkg-recomnfigure everything [17:55] i did dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [17:55] i did mythtv-setup [17:55] also went through mythfilldatabase [17:55] now i ran the frontend [17:56] but when i hit watch tv, i get black screen [18:00] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f481ef49a [18:02] someone correct me if I am wrong, but you don't ever choose the mysql mythtv password, that gets generated [18:02] !blank% | Decepticon [18:02] Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory [18:02] i was having trouble getting it to work with a blank password [18:02] so i opted to use a easy password [18:03] if your mysql is worked out, that may be your current problem [18:03] I'd make sure your mysql is correct first, get to the point where you can login with the mysql command to the mythconverg db [18:03] im getting a primpt if i do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv [18:03] whats wrong with that [18:03] should be able to do show tables; and see stuff in there [18:03] ok if you enter the password do you get in? [18:04] yes im given a prompt [18:04] throw a mythconverg at the end [18:04] do you get in though [18:04] Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. [18:04] Your MySQL connection id is 216 [18:04] Server version: 5.0.67-0ubuntu6 (Ubuntu) [18:04] Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. [18:04] not does it prompt you [18:04] if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what [18:04] throw a mythconverg on the end [18:04] then do show tables; [18:04] and see if there are things in there, if so, you are good [18:05] shows a whole bunch of stuff [18:05] recordedprogram | [18:05] | recordedrating | [18:05] | recordedseek | [18:05] etc [18:05] 81 rows in set (0.00 sec) [18:11] Decepticon then your mysql setup is fine [18:11] check this now: [18:11] !blank% | Decepticon [18:11] Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory [18:11] any idea where my recording directory is [18:12] you should have set it up in mythtv-setup [18:12] i remember it being /var/lib/mythtv/ [18:12] cant be sure [18:12] go and double check [18:23] ls -laF /var/lib/mythtv/ [18:24] drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2008-10-31 14:19 recordings/ [18:24] jphillip well its chmodded properly [18:26] so im not sure why im getting a black screen === clever is now known as clev [18:45] does mythtv support slowmotion? my livetv looks so :) [18:54] i cant get any signal, when im doing channel scan in mythtv-setup. im getting 0% signal strength in the scan for try-all. it says timeout scanning try-all 38 -- no signal [19:03] can someone please help me [20:18] hi all, anyone can help me debugging mythtv on Ubuntu? I want to provide some more debugging information to ticket #5832 [20:25] cbovy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [20:25] that's generally the most useful way to get debugging symbols, traces, and all that fun stuff [20:28] superml: I'll try it. I tried to recompile deb myself to include debug symbols, but this works better. :-) [20:29] yeah this is the much easier way [20:29] but if you want to do it that way with symbols "in the deb", there is one or two lines that you need to change to do it that way [20:30] just remove dh_strip in rules? [20:40] superml: I installed mythtv-backend-dbgsym and libmyth-0.21-0-dbgsym, but I'm unable to get any debug symbols. [20:40] cbovy, no not removing dh_strip [20:41] DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip [20:41] that env variable should do it [20:42] thanks! I'll give it a try. === Mazga397 is now known as Mazga [22:53] what is the best place to specify that you have a PAL TV? I've tried editing xorg.conf, but still I get no sigar [22:56] larstr: dunno, but come over to #mythtv-norge too :-) [23:09] Just installed myth on top of ubuntu 8.10... i notice that the xorg.conf file looks COMPLETELY different... Will I be able to use the xorg.conf setup from my 8.04 mythbuntu setup? [23:09] This is what it looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65432/ [23:10] The Hardy myth was perfect: My TV was one screen, and the monitor connected to the backend machine was a 2nd screen... [23:10] yes, it ought to work, but i'd consider removing the input sections & allowing autoconf of those [23:11] directhex, cool. how would that work? [23:12] remove the "Section 'Input Device'" sections, and then run....what? [23:12] automatically. no InputDevice sections needed [23:12] so just copy that xorg.conf file over...and delete the InputDevice sections? then...reboot...or...? [23:15] hello everyone. i wonder if anyone have some time to try to help my. tried to upgrade my mythbuntu to 8.10 and something seems to have gone terrible wrong [23:15] help me [23:17] ouch. i'm glad, then, that i left my 8.04 alone and did a clean install of 8.10 on a separate partition! [23:17] :O [23:18] mm, i whish i never tried to do that upgrade. i'm not that good with linux or ubuntu to figure out what is happening [23:19] yeah, i'm pretty new at this, too... [23:19] If you ask your question and/or explain what is happening someone may be able to help. [23:20] well, i could say as much that the system wont start up. now i get to the screen with the mythbuntu logo and below that is the text Performing autostart... been there for atleast 20 minutes now [23:22] after some time i was able to login to ssh, and doing a ps -A it seems that i have about 50-100 processes with jockey-gtk,mythfrontend.re, the PID counter is currently at 16197 and counting. It feels like some startscript or something is in a loop [23:24] pstree may help you find out what is starting everything [23:24] i'll try that [23:25] my system disk just wont stop working, so everything i'm trying to do takes forever [23:25] `sudo invoke-rc-d gdm stop` may help that. [23:26] It will stop X windows therefore stopping child processes of that which is likely where the processs are spawned from. [23:27] Here's the xorg.conf I want to try (I commented out the "Input" lines) http://paste.ubuntu.com/65436/ [23:27] Though you may wat to see what is starting everything before you kill it all if you can [23:27] Does it look okay? [23:27] waiting for some output from pstree now =) [23:28] hmm, that was not easy to read [23:31] okay...i'm just gonna jump in and try that xorg file... [23:31] :\ [23:31] does this make any sense? http://pastebin.com/d24420f98 [23:35] Not to me, weird characters. [23:36] mm [23:55] i guess it is not possible to revert a upgrade back to 8.04 without reinstall? [23:57] look at this, it is crazy. http://pastebin.com/d757b128d