[00:00] <toorima> are there any big feature differences between 8.04 and 8.10?
[00:13] <hads> Seeker`: Code up an option and submit it as a patch
[00:16] <Seeker`> hads: could do
[00:16] <Seeker`> hads: never looked at the myth internals before
[00:19] <tgm4883_laptop> Whos ready for some awesomeness?
[00:23] <tgm4883_laptop> !diggit
[00:23] <Zinn> Have you dugg it?  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_10_Intrepid_Ibex_Is_Here
[00:31] <r3z> tgm4883_laptop, check priv msg.
[01:28] <a1fa> yo
[01:28] <a1fa> after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted
[01:30] <a1fa> damn
[01:30] <a1fa> mirrors are hosed up
[01:33] <tgm4883_laptop> a1fa, how so?
[02:25] <a1fa> after this new update i am having a lot of buffering between myth backend and xbox fronted
[02:25] <a1fa> what gives?
[02:29] <foxbuntu> a1fa, I dont know anything about the xbox frontend, however word of advice, dont ask the same question over and over in an irc channel its not polite, also asking a question like "what gives" will lower your chances of getting a valuable response.
[03:39] <pocketcookies> I installed mythbuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.10.  Is this the correct place to ask for help with it?
[03:46] <frank23> pocketcookies: yes it is
[03:51] <pocketcookies> Thanks.  I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and added Mythbuntu onto it (from the instructions at http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu).  After going through mythtv-setup, when I try to use mythtvfrontend to watch tv, it either freezes (requiring a ctrl+alt+backspace to get everything working again) or causes the screen to briefly flash black (as if it's trying to play TV) before showing the main screen again.
[03:52] <rhpot1991> !logs | pocketcookies
[03:52] <Zinn> pocketcookies: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/
[03:52] <rhpot1991> check them, see if there is anything good in there
[03:52] <rhpot1991> your storage dir isn't in your home dir is it?
[03:53] <pocketcookies> It seems to be /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[03:53] <rhpot1991> thats the default
[03:54] <pocketcookies> The end of the log seems to list two errors, "unknown video codec..." and "unknown audio codec..."
[03:58] <pocketcookies> I think I may have figured it out.  I had accidentally set up my card as a V4L card when it should have been an mjpeg card.
[04:00] <pocketcookies> rhpot1991: There was one other thing that was slightly troubling me.  I have two tuner cards installed in my computer (a pvr150 and hvr1800).  The first time I started Ubuntu, the pvr150 was registered as /dev/video0.  Now, it's registered as /dev/video2.
[04:01] <pocketcookies> I'm not sure if this was a one-time thing but is there a way to force Ubuntu to assign the cards to a single device file consistently?
[04:24] <r3z> pocketcookies, I remember hearing something about hard setting a value to make them always show up correctly but I will see if I can find it ;)
[04:25] <ajhtiredwolf> SOmething weird has happened to me, the mythbuntu control centre seems to have dissapeared... all of the things that i enabled with it like the plugins and the extra themes are still there, but it is gone, its not listed under administrator or in the front end
[04:25] <pocketcookies> r3z: Thank you very much.
[04:35] <thedarkone2> whatz diff in 8.10?
[04:38] <toorima> pocketcookies: I blacklist the modules for my tunercards then load them in /etc/modules that stoped it from happening for me
[04:39] <pocketcookies> toorima: Thanks.  I guess I'll try that.
[04:41] <pocketcookies> I can't find a /etc/modules.  Where should I tell it to load them?
[04:43] <toorima> blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and load in /etc/modules
[04:44] <pocketcookies> Ok.
[04:44] <pocketcookies> I really appreciate this.
[04:44] <toorima> the module for the pvr150 is ivtv, dunno what the module is for your other card
[04:44] <toorima> np
[04:44] <pocketcookies> I think it's something like cx2341x or something.
[04:45] <toorima> u can probably find it in dmesg, should say what module it uses
[04:46] <toorima> dmesg | grep cx
[04:46] <toorima> that should give you something
[04:49] <pocketcookies> Looks like it's cx23885.
[04:51] <toorima> seems right
[04:52] <pocketcookies> I suppose I'll try it.  Thanks again.
[05:03] <Decepticon> are you guys seeding mythbuntu-8.10-desktop-proper-i386.iso
[05:03] <Decepticon> its being very slow
[07:13] <Decepticon> why does mythbuntu not support nvidia geforce fx 5200
[07:13] <Decepticon> do i have to use the alt insstall cd?
[07:31] <Decepticon> can someone please tell me what is 'additional roles' 'frontend' 'master backend' and 'slave backend' for when installing via the alt cd for 8.10, (the regular livecd doesnt work, X gives a black screen for my nvidia geforce fx 5200)
[07:35] <Decepticon> so the livecd is actually useless for me because i cant get the gui to come up and i have to install via alt cd and im going to have to answer every config question manually instead of it being autodetected as in the livecd
[07:39] <toorima> well the role is what setup you have, is it a combined backend/frontend or what are you seting up
[07:40] <toorima> or do you have one machine doing all the recording and an other machine by the tv to play stuff with
[07:44] <Decepticon> one machine
[07:44] <Decepticon> i just installed everything
[07:44] <Decepticon> in ubuntu 8.10, same thing happened
[07:44] <Decepticon> i got a black screen instead of a gui
[07:45] <Decepticon> i had to installe the nvidida drivers with envyng-core
[07:45] <toorima> you probably need the legacy driver, think support has been droped for fx 5200 in the regular driver
[07:46] <Decepticon> my question is, because of my graphics card mess up, does this mean im left manually configuring everything for mythtv
[07:46] <toorima> with a one machine setup u dont have to care about additional roles
[07:47] <Decepticon> instead of as it would have been installed normally with a workinggraphics card through the livecd
[07:48] <toorima> the actuall mythtv config starts when you have a desktop, so that part will be the same, its the actuall os install that will be non gui with alt cd
[08:21] <orkid> part
[08:27] <Decepticon> i ran mythtv-setup and im being asked about database configuration, i havent changed a single field and im getting a error when i finish databse configuraiton on step 2, a box comes up saying 'cannot login to database?' with a ok button and it reutrns you yo database config
[08:27] <Decepticon> pelase help
[08:27] <Decepticon> ive never been able to get past this step with installing mythtv on ubuntu or even using the alt install cd mythtv-setup program
[08:30] <Decepticon> can someone tell me how to make this error not happen? im assuming it means mysql is not started. so how do i start mysql so that i can run through the setup for once without a ereror
[09:24] <sebrock> I dist-upgrade from 8.04.1 will work fine?
[10:28] <leo74> hi all
[10:29] <leo74> may I use this TV tuner for Mythbuntu
[10:29] <leo74> http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=463
[10:29] <leo74> ?
[10:29] <leo74>  	  AVerTV Satellite Trinity
[10:30] <leo74> A707
[11:08] <Decepticon> i have a pvr150, im in mythtv-setup, and im doing the channel scan but im getting nothing in the results... timeout scanning us-cable 2 -- no signal
[11:10] <leo74>  	  AVerTV Satellite Trinity
[11:12] <directhex> linuxtv.org wiki. look there for device compatibility
[13:23] <r3z`> speed:      0    B/s down -   2.4  M/s up
[13:23] <r3z`> tgm4883_laptop,  Seeding speed ;)
[14:57] <jphillip> !mysql | Decepticon
[14:57] <Zinn> Decepticon: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[15:39] <jphillip> !help
[15:40] <Zinn> Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[16:34] <MassiveBlue> hi everyone
[16:34] <tgm4883_laptop> hi
[16:35] <superm1> !hi | MassiveBlue
[16:35] <Zinn> MassiveBlue: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[16:38] <MassiveBlue> yes you can :-D i installed mythbuntu some minutes ago. i have a TT S-2300 (or Hauppauge Nexus S) in this box, can I use the TVout of this card? it's much better than the tvout the nvidia-card is providing
[16:38] <jphillip> I like how no one questions the $nick
[16:39] <tgm4883_laptop> jphillip, it's cause it's too awesome
[16:39] <tgm4883_laptop> that would be like questioning chuck norris
[16:39] <tgm4883_laptop> you would just get a round house kick to the face
[16:40] <superm1> MassiveBlue, generally the tv out on those types of cards is nice for mpeg2 content at specific resolutions, so before starting, do you have anything else you like to watch?
[16:40] <superm1> like DVD's, HD content, mpeg4 files, etc?
[16:40] <jphillip> games don't work well either
[16:44] <MassiveBlue> superm1: yes, i want to watch MPEG4-movies too. i was running easyvdr (linvdr) before and used the tvout of the TT-card for this, if this helps
[16:45] <MassiveBlue> superm1: but watching TV via DVB-S is most importing for me
[16:46] <thedarkone2> is mythstream fixed in 8.10?
[16:48] <superm1> MassiveBlue, if you are wanting to watch mepg-4 I would say just use nvidia tv out.  You will overall have a better experience
[16:48] <superm1> it's quite frustrating otherwise with the tv out on these mpeg2 acceleration cards
[16:48] <superm1> thedarkone2, should be fine....
[16:49] <thedarkone2> in 8.04 it stoped working
[16:51] <MassiveBlue> superm1: ok, i could live without watching mpeg4. the box will be used for watching DVB-S mainly
[16:52] <superm1> MassiveBlue, then if you really want to go down this path, you'll have to try to use xserver-xorg-video-ivtv to do it (provided your card is supported by this type of functionality).  Since it's a DVB-S card, i'm almost thinking it might not be.
[16:52] <thedarkone2> massiveblue i have mine setup for mpeg2 dvb-s on dishnet
[16:53] <superm1> but talk to people who know for sure, seems thedarkone2 would be better than I here :)
[16:54] <MassiveBlue> superm1: ok, thank you for your quick answer
[16:57] <MassiveBlue> thedarkone2: i'm living in europe and using astra. do you use such a setup? do i have to install the xserver-xorg-video-ivtv package?
[16:57] <thedarkone2> well i am usa
[16:58] <MassiveBlue> ok, i will try
[17:15] <thedarkone2> anyone know why i get a dcopserver error
[17:31] <Decepticon> i did dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common, ran mythtv-setup, ran the mythfilldatabase step to completion, now im looking at the mythbuntu desktop (the black looking desktop) and theres aicon there that says "information available"
[17:31] <Decepticon> when i click it, it says i should do dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database over
[17:31] <Decepticon> wtf, why
[17:31] <Decepticon> "mythtv-database reconfigure required" "the mythtv database package was upgraded or intalled but was unable to contact a mysql server."
[17:32] <Decepticon> "if you were in the process of dist-ubradping . this is normal as mysql server is stopped for a portiion o f the uprgrade. if this is a fresh package installlatiuon, verify that mysql server is installed anr dunning. once you have verifiied the server is running you can reconfigure the package by running sudo dpkg reconfigure mythtv-dtabase
[17:33] <Decepticon> if your root password ofr location of the myseql server are nonstandard you can also update them via sudo dpkg reconfigure mtythtv-database
[17:33] <Decepticon> how can i test if my mysql is not working properly at this juncture, i thought i already managed to fix everything with sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[17:33] <Decepticon> i can even do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv and get a prompt
[17:33] <Decepticon> so whats the big deal
[17:34] <Decepticon> please advise
[17:34] <Decepticon> what is my next step
[17:45] <laga> hey.
[17:46] <superm1> !hi | laga
[17:46] <Zinn> laga: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[17:46] <superm1> ;)
[17:47] <laga> !stab superm1
[17:47]  * Zinn stabs superm1 with a rusty spork.
[17:50] <jphillip> Decepticon leave out the p
[17:51] <jphillip> if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what
[17:51] <Decepticon> mysql -u mythtv?
[17:51] <jphillip> ya it should then either prompt you or give you a better hint
[17:51] <Decepticon> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[17:51] <jphillip> there you go, you didn't set things up right, cause there is no user
[17:51] <Decepticon> i set a password, the password is 'mythtv'
[17:51] <jphillip> password for what?
[17:51] <Decepticon> mysql
[17:52] <jphillip> this is normal confusion, mysql will ask you for a root mysql password
[17:52] <Decepticon> i set them both to the same thing
[17:52] <jphillip> which you then need to specify when mythtv is installing
[17:52] <Decepticon> the myttv username/password, and the root mysql pass
[17:52] <jphillip> and then it makes a mythtv user and the password will be in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[17:52] <superm1> jphillip, do you know if we have a bug opened about this confusion?
[17:52] <superm1> i convinced kirkland to fix it during jaunty, but i need to point him at it
[17:52] <jphillip> superm1 I'm not entirely sure
[17:53] <jphillip> its not really a bug, just more of a what password is where deal
[17:53] <jphillip> it works once you know whats going on, but its confusing as all hell
[17:53] <superm1> well it's a bug with how mythtv's package handles it
[17:53] <jphillip> also if you don't reconfigure both mythtv-database and mythtv-common your mysql.txt is out of sync
[17:54] <Decepticon> i opted to use a simple password
[17:55] <Decepticon> for the root pass for mysql, and the mythtv user's password
[17:55] <Decepticon> i deleted the mysql.txt file and the xml file in ~/.mythtv and did dpkg-recomnfigure everything
[17:55] <Decepticon> i did dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[17:55] <Decepticon> i did mythtv-setup
[17:55] <Decepticon> also went through mythfilldatabase
[17:55] <Decepticon> now i ran the frontend
[17:56] <Decepticon> but when i hit watch tv, i get black screen
[18:00] <Decepticon> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f481ef49a
[18:02] <jphillip> someone correct me if I am wrong, but you don't ever choose the mysql mythtv password, that gets generated
[18:02] <jphillip> !blank% | Decepticon
[18:02] <Zinn> Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[18:02] <Decepticon> i was having trouble getting it to work with a blank password
[18:02] <Decepticon> so i opted to use a easy password
[18:03] <jphillip> if your mysql is worked out, that may be your current problem
[18:03] <jphillip> I'd make sure your mysql is correct first, get to the point where you can login with the mysql command to the mythconverg db
[18:03] <Decepticon> im getting a primpt if i do mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv
[18:03] <Decepticon> whats wrong with that
[18:03] <jphillip> should be able to do show tables; and see stuff in there
[18:03] <jphillip> ok if you enter the password do you get in?
[18:04] <Decepticon> yes im given a prompt
[18:04] <jphillip> throw a mythconverg at the end
[18:04] <jphillip> do you get in though
[18:04] <Decepticon> Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g.
[18:04] <Decepticon> Your MySQL connection id is 216
[18:04] <Decepticon> Server version: 5.0.67-0ubuntu6 (Ubuntu)
[18:04] <Decepticon> Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
[18:04] <jphillip> not does it prompt you
[18:04] <jphillip> if you do -p it will prompt you no matter what
[18:04] <jphillip> throw a mythconverg on the end
[18:04] <jphillip> then do show tables;
[18:04] <jphillip> and see if there are things in there, if so, you are good
[18:05] <Decepticon> shows a whole bunch of stuff
[18:05] <Decepticon> recordedprogram |
[18:05] <Decepticon> | recordedrating |
[18:05] <Decepticon> | recordedseek |
[18:05] <Decepticon> etc
[18:05] <Decepticon> 81 rows in set (0.00 sec)
[18:11] <jphillip> Decepticon then your mysql setup is fine
[18:11] <jphillip> check this now:
[18:11] <jphillip> !blank% | Decepticon
[18:11] <Zinn> Decepticon: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[18:11] <Decepticon> any idea where my recording directory is
[18:12] <jphillip> you should have set it up in mythtv-setup
[18:12] <Decepticon> i remember it being /var/lib/mythtv/
[18:12] <Decepticon> cant be sure
[18:12] <jphillip> go and double check
[18:23] <Decepticon> ls -laF /var/lib/mythtv/
[18:24] <Decepticon> drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2008-10-31 14:19 recordings/
[18:24] <Decepticon> jphillip well its chmodded properly
[18:26] <Decepticon> so im not sure why im getting a black screen
[18:45] <MassiveBlue> does mythtv support slowmotion? my livetv looks so :)
[18:54] <Decepticon> i cant get any signal, when im doing channel scan in mythtv-setup. im getting 0% signal strength in the scan for try-all. it says timeout scanning try-all 38 -- no signal
[19:03] <Decepticon> can someone please help me
[20:18] <cbovy> hi all, anyone can help me debugging mythtv on Ubuntu? I want to provide some more debugging information to ticket #5832
[20:25] <superm1> cbovy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[20:25] <superm1> that's generally the most useful way to get debugging symbols, traces, and all that fun stuff
[20:28] <cbovy> superml: I'll try it. I tried to recompile deb myself to include debug symbols, but this works better. :-)
[20:29] <superm1> yeah this is the much easier way
[20:29] <superm1> but if you want to do it that way with symbols "in the deb", there is one or two lines that you need to change to do it that way
[20:30] <cbovy> just remove dh_strip in rules?
[20:40] <cbovy> superml: I installed mythtv-backend-dbgsym and libmyth-0.21-0-dbgsym, but I'm unable to get any debug symbols.
[20:40] <superm1> cbovy, no not removing dh_strip
[20:41] <superm1> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip
[20:41] <superm1> that env variable should do it
[20:42] <cbovy> thanks! I'll give it a try.
[22:53] <larstr> what is the best place to specify that you have a PAL TV? I've tried editing xorg.conf, but still I get no sigar
[22:56] <KjetilK> larstr: dunno, but come over to #mythtv-norge too :-)
[23:09] <wilberfan> Just installed myth on top of ubuntu 8.10... i notice that the xorg.conf file looks COMPLETELY different...  Will I be able to use the xorg.conf setup from my 8.04 mythbuntu setup?
[23:09] <wilberfan> This is what it looks like:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/65432/
[23:10] <wilberfan> The Hardy myth was perfect:  My TV was one screen, and the monitor connected to the backend machine was a 2nd screen...
[23:10] <directhex> yes, it ought to work, but i'd consider removing the input sections & allowing autoconf of those
[23:11] <wilberfan> directhex,  cool.  how would that work?
[23:12] <wilberfan> remove the "Section 'Input Device'" sections, and then run....what?
[23:12] <directhex> automatically. no InputDevice sections needed
[23:12] <wilberfan> so just copy that xorg.conf file over...and delete the InputDevice sections?   then...reboot...or...?
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest86> hello everyone. i wonder if anyone have some time to try to help my. tried to upgrade my mythbuntu to 8.10 and something seems to have gone terrible wrong
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest86> help me
[23:17] <wilberfan> ouch.  i'm glad, then, that i left my 8.04 alone and did a clean install of 8.10 on a separate partition!
[23:17] <wilberfan> :O
[23:18] <MythbuntuGuest86> mm, i whish i never tried to do that upgrade. i'm not that good with linux or ubuntu to figure out what is happening
[23:19] <wilberfan> yeah, i'm pretty new at this, too...
[23:19] <hads> If you ask your question and/or explain what is happening someone may be able to help.
[23:20] <MythbuntuGuest86> well, i could say as much that the system wont start up. now i get to the screen with the mythbuntu logo and below that is the text Performing autostart... been there for atleast 20 minutes now
[23:22] <MythbuntuGuest86> after some time i was able to login to ssh, and doing a ps -A it seems that i have about 50-100 processes with jockey-gtk,mythfrontend.re, the PID counter is currently at 16197 and counting. It feels like some startscript or something is in a loop
[23:24] <hads> pstree may help you find out what is starting everything
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest86> i'll try that
[23:25] <MythbuntuGuest86> my system disk just wont stop working, so everything i'm trying to do takes forever
[23:25] <hads> `sudo invoke-rc-d gdm stop` may help that.
[23:26] <hads> It will stop X windows therefore stopping child processes of that which is likely where the processs are spawned from.
[23:27] <wilberfan> Here's the xorg.conf I want to try (I commented out the "Input" lines) http://paste.ubuntu.com/65436/
[23:27] <hads> Though you may wat to see what is starting everything before you kill it all if you can
[23:27] <wilberfan> Does it look okay?
[23:27] <MythbuntuGuest86> waiting for some output from pstree now =)
[23:28] <MythbuntuGuest86> hmm, that was not easy to read
[23:31] <wilberfan> okay...i'm just gonna jump in and try that xorg file...
[23:31] <wilberfan> :\
[23:31] <MythbuntuGuest86> does this make any sense? http://pastebin.com/d24420f98
[23:35] <hads> Not to me, weird characters.
[23:36] <MythbuntuGuest86> mm
[23:55] <MythbuntuGuest86> i guess it is not possible to revert a upgrade back to 8.04 without reinstall?
[23:57] <MythbuntuGuest86> look at this, it is crazy. http://pastebin.com/d757b128d