bryce | superm1: see my comment to 214840 - does that look okay? If so, I'll do that on all 2.6.22 and 2.6.24 fglrx bugs | 00:53 |
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superm1 | bryce, yeah that should leave people with a warm fuzzy feeling too | 05:30 |
superm1 | sounds good | 05:30 |
superm1 | well maybe not fuzzy, but at least warm | 05:31 |
bryce | ok, that hit about 70 bugs | 05:35 |
wgrant | bryce: Wow, you got -synaptics down to 40 bugs. Nicely done. | 05:58 |
bryce | wgrant: unfortunately it was a script error | 05:59 |
bryce | closed all Incomplete bugs, not just ones that were >60 days | 05:59 |
bryce | silly python. | 06:00 |
wgrant | bryce: It left some untouched... | 06:00 |
wgrant | And those that were closed had been incomplete for a while. And the reporter can always reopen them. | 06:00 |
bryce | wgrant: ok, I'm just spot checking and definitely have found some errors | 06:01 |
wgrant | I love some users. | 06:01 |
wgrant | user: "Ubuntu 8.10 should focus on making input devices work." | 06:01 |
wgrant | dev: "Well then, please try your touchpad in Intrepid" | 06:01 |
wgrant | user: "I think you should fix it in Ubuntu 8.04" | 06:02 |
wgrant | Well, thanks. | 06:02 |
wgrant | Don't actually bother to confirm that it's at all fixed. | 06:02 |
wgrant | That would be too easy. | 06:02 |
bryce | heh | 06:04 |
bryce | my favorites are, "This is a complete showstopper. It is unacceptable that <blah blah>." | 06:05 |
wgrant | I'M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS! | 06:06 |
bryce | :-D | 06:07 |
bryce | heh, a lot of these it appears I set to Incomplete on the 10th, so 20 days to respond isn't _too_ bad. I think I can leave a lot of these expired, and hand wave something about it being release day, so I meant to do that. no really | 06:08 |
wgrant | Heh. | 06:09 |
bryce | ironically, I'd deliberately put a "dry run" option into these scripts, but I was literally in a hurry to get to a release party and rushed the script changes. | 06:09 |
wgrant | You have release parties in your part of the world? :( | 06:10 |
bryce | well, really just dinner with co-workers who are here in portland | 06:12 |
wgrant | Hmm, I hope there's some provision in XI properties to reset some property to the default. | 06:12 |
wgrant | Ah. Even so... | 06:13 |
* wgrant might seek out GNOMEish people today. | 06:14 | |
wgrant | I need to see if I can get that g-s-d SRU approved. | 06:14 |
bryce | bug 184027 - heh, I'm not the only one with out of control scripts this evening | 06:29 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 184027 in mesa "glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV in viaXMesaWindowMoved()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184027 | 06:29 |
wgrant | I wonder if we need a tag for bugs that should be looked at for the input config utility. | 06:29 |
bryce | how do you mean? | 06:30 |
wgrant | There are lots of bugs which complain about missing options for Synaptics touchpads and other input devices. | 06:30 |
wgrant | They should all be able to be seen together somewhere, I think. | 06:31 |
bryce | ah, gotcha, yeah good idea | 06:41 |
bryce | ok whew, the vast bulk of these were expired appropriately | 06:44 |
wgrant | Excellent. | 06:45 |
wgrant | I wonder what will die if I throw -synaptics master into my PPA. | 06:45 |
tjaalton | morning | 06:55 |
wgrant | Morning tjaalton. | 06:55 |
tjaalton | wow, bug count down to ~1900 from 2150+ | 06:59 |
wgrant | In X? | 07:01 |
tjaalton | yep | 07:01 |
bryce | \o/ | 07:03 |
bryce | tjaalton: yeah my expire script lost its mind and closed pretty much all the Incomplete bugs | 07:03 |
tjaalton | bryce: aww, keep it that way :) | 07:04 |
bryce | :-) | 07:04 |
bryce | actually the vast bulk of these had been sitting as New, and I had a script request more info on the 10th, and there's been no response | 07:05 |
bryce | so 20 days ought to be enough time to justify expiring them | 07:05 |
tjaalton | yep | 07:05 |
bryce | plus it's Release Day. :-) | 07:05 |
tjaalton | "nothing we can do about it - neext!" | 07:06 |
bryce | yep, 1900 bugs is still plenty for us | 07:06 |
wgrant | What is the distribution across the various packages? | 07:07 |
tjaalton | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+packagebugs | 07:07 |
wgrant | Oh, your instance of that page might actually be usable. | 07:07 |
wgrant | My other teams that could make use of that have hundreds of packages with no bugs, so it's entirely useless. | 07:08 |
tjaalton | xorg needs cleaning, since it's what people use when filing/triaging bugs | 07:08 |
tjaalton | heh | 07:08 |
tjaalton | probably some of the input drivers will be dropped when upstream does the same | 07:09 |
bryce | wgrant: yeah we actually use that page as our listing of packages we support. My scripts screenscrape that page to get the list of packages to process | 07:09 |
bryce | when we drop the l-r-m's we'll be able to cut out a lot of irrelevant bugs too | 07:09 |
wgrant | Yep. | 07:10 |
wgrant | Most of -synaptics are being sent to Incomplete now. | 07:10 |
bryce | heh, I triaged bug 261197 so quick, I asked for info the day before it was filed ;-) | 07:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 261197 in xorg "my screen brightness decreases with ubuntu 8.4" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261197 | 07:11 |
wgrant | Stupid slow Internets! | 07:12 |
wgrant | Did you have a bogus date header on it? | 07:12 |
wgrant | Ah, not, just two months later. | 07:12 |
wgrant | But LP has a habit of trusting nasty bogus Date mail headers, making things confusing. | 07:12 |
tjaalton | ok, bug 267241 is real, getting multiple dupes too | 07:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 267241 in xorg-server "[intrepid] X11: no device detected" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267241 | 07:14 |
tjaalton | the xserver can't decide which device to use | 07:14 |
bryce | heh | 07:18 |
bryce | Hi hamsterzombie-deactivatedaccount, | 07:19 |
bryce | ... | 07:19 |
tjaalton | hehe | 07:40 |
bryce | wgrant: wow you've been busy | 08:00 |
wgrant | bryce: Have I? | 08:00 |
bryce | with the Incompletes | 08:01 |
wgrant | Ah, yes... there's too many changes to not do that, I'm afraid. | 08:01 |
bryce | yep | 08:02 |
wgrant | And I might get all the people with speed issues to try master, as that is completely different. | 08:02 |
* wgrant blinks. | 08:07 | |
wgrant | 'Invalid whois information' phishing. | 08:07 |
wgrant | Nice. | 08:07 |
tjaalton | oh great, the problem with multiple devices seems to be 64bit specific | 08:12 |
wgrant | More!? | 08:14 |
wgrant | X does have more than its fair share of 64-bit unsafeness. | 08:14 |
tjaalton | this is with multiple graphics devices | 08:14 |
tjaalton | compare these logs for instance: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17352098/xorg.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18858927/XorgLog.txt | 08:15 |
tjaalton | the part where it lists the PCI devices | 08:15 |
tjaalton | on 64bit you have "(!!) More than one possible primary device found | 08:15 |
tjaalton | " | 08:15 |
tjaalton | on x86 it picks the first | 08:15 |
wgrant | Hmmm. | 08:16 |
wgrant | Oh look, a GNOME person. | 08:22 |
wgrant | seb128: Hi. | 08:25 |
seb128 | hey wgrant | 08:25 |
wgrant | seb128: You are lord of gnome-settings-daemon, aren't you? | 08:26 |
seb128 | hum, I don't master the code but I do the updates and the bug triage usually | 08:26 |
wgrant | Right. | 08:26 |
seb128 | why? | 08:26 |
wgrant | Well, bug #280148 | 08:27 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 280148 in gnome-settings-daemon "g-s-d needs to set mouse properties when a new device appears" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280148 | 08:27 |
wgrant | Since we moved to input hotplug in Intrepid, mouse settings don't affect hotplugged devices. | 08:27 |
wgrant | Which means that settings drop after suspend on some machines, or when Bluetooth devices are reattached, or even when some devices go idle (if they're particularly braindead). | 08:28 |
seb128 | g-s-d is likely applying settings on session start only | 08:28 |
seb128 | and not dynamically | 08:28 |
wgrant | I know. | 08:28 |
wgrant | And I have a patch to fix it. | 08:28 |
wgrant | http://www.qeuni.net/f/1/2008/20_mouse_devicepresencenotify.patch | 08:28 |
wgrant | But I wonder what the chances of getting that into Intrepid are. | 08:28 |
wgrant | (I plan to seek upstream approval, of course) | 08:28 |
seb128 | would be nice to bugzilla.gnome.org it | 08:29 |
seb128 | if it's accepted upstream I see no issue to get it sru-ed in intrepid | 08:30 |
wgrant | Sure, I'll do that now. | 08:30 |
wgrant | Great, thanks! | 08:30 |
seb128 | np, thanks for working on that ;-) | 08:30 |
seb128 | wgrant: bug #223170, do you think there is gtk changes required there? | 08:31 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 223170 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Trackpad scrolling is jerky and difficult to be precise with" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223170 | 08:31 |
wgrant | seb128: There are changes all over the stack. | 08:31 |
seb128 | there is a gtk task open but I'm not sure if it makes sense | 08:31 |
wgrant | seb128: I suggest Won't Fixing it. | 08:31 |
seb128 | ok | 08:31 |
wgrant | X doesn't do delta scrolling yet. | 08:31 |
wgrant | There was a discussion about it in July, and something might happen once axes can be annotated (XI2) | 08:32 |
wgrant | I think we should just wontfix it, as we're certainly not going to fix it here. | 08:32 |
seb128 | ok | 08:32 |
wgrant | I suppose I should actually make the patch relevant to upstream before I submit it. | 08:35 |
crevette | hello | 09:19 |
crevette | hey it's time to update the topic :) | 09:19 |
=== wgrant changed the topic of #ubuntu-x to: Ubuntu 8.10 released! | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X | ||
tjaalton | hehe, bug 290249 | 09:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 290249 in xorg "[intrepid] failsafe xorg asks what to do after telling it already" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290249 | 09:59 |
tjaalton | a couple of dupes too, but the description on that one is charming | 09:59 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Do we have docs for setting resolutions in xorg.conf in Intrepid? | 10:05 |
wgrant | It's one of the big issues ATM | 10:05 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Haha, nice description. | 10:06 |
tjaalton | wgrant: the same as in hardy | 10:06 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Wasn't one meant to use displayconfig-gtk in Hardy? | 10:07 |
wgrant | I've not seen any docs recently on the wiki about it. | 10:07 |
tjaalton | oh | 10:07 |
tjaalton | there's no gui for it, that's knonw | 10:08 |
tjaalton | -wn | 10:08 |
wgrant | I know. | 10:08 |
wgrant | But I'd like to be able to get some docs out there. | 10:08 |
wgrant | As it is one of the most common questions now. | 10:09 |
tjaalton | so unless just setting the Modes isn't enough, it needs a Modeline as well | 10:09 |
wgrant | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto looks like it should be the relevant page.... but that hurts. | 10:10 |
wgrant | That is so old it's not funny. | 10:10 |
tjaalton | heh, 915resolution | 10:11 |
wgrant | I think that page needs abolition. | 10:11 |
wgrant | Exactly. | 10:11 |
tjaalton | take it behind the shed | 10:11 |
wgrant | Those gconf keys also don't exist any more. | 10:11 |
wgrant | I'm going to chop pre-hardy bits out of it and see if anything is left over. | 10:12 |
tjaalton | great | 10:12 |
wgrant | tjaalton: I killed that page entirely, and added a new section to X/Config: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions | 11:05 |
wgrant | How does that latter one look? | 11:06 |
tjaalton | wgrant: better. Maybe add something about cvt and modelines? | 11:07 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Sure, I'll look that up. | 11:08 |
tjaalton | thanks | 11:08 |
wgrant | I haven't had to add a modeline for years! | 11:08 |
tjaalton | hmm, or force the HorizSync/VertRefresh values | 11:09 |
tjaalton | if that doesn't help, then a Modeline should | 11:09 |
wgrant | OTOH, my Internet connection seems to have gone incredibly slow, so I won't be doing any more tonight. | 11:10 |
crevette | wgrant, it lack a word in the setion you put "gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf" | 11:15 |
crevette | I'm correcting that | 11:15 |
wgrant | crevette: Blurgh, you're right. | 11:15 |
crevette | bah not a big problem :) | 11:16 |
wgrant | It should also say to reboot, probably. | 11:16 |
wgrant | I seem to be able to get about 20kbps inbound... | 11:16 |
Ng | so, on the subject of editing xorg.confs | 11:34 |
Ng | should a random person find themselves in need of doing so, chances are that these days they have nothing to work with | 11:34 |
Ng | given that X does actually construct a default one internally, and can dump it, could we maybe have it write something out to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.skeleton or so? | 11:35 |
Ng | then these "add modelines..." tutorials can start with "copy xorg.conf.skeleton to xorg.conf" | 11:35 |
tjaalton | dexconf -o foo | 11:35 |
tjaalton | the default installation still creates one | 11:36 |
Ng | huh, really? | 11:36 |
Ng | as xorg.conf? | 11:36 |
tjaalton | if they know how to delete it, they really should know how to bring it back :) | 11:36 |
tjaalton | yes | 11:36 |
Ng | is it just an empty skeleton? | 11:36 |
* Ng retracts above wibbling | 11:37 | |
tjaalton | pretty much | 11:37 |
tjaalton | just run that command to see | 11:37 |
Ng | yeah, that's fine :) | 11:44 |
* Ng whistles and goes back to not wasting peoples' time ;) | 11:44 | |
tjaalton | hehe | 11:47 |
Q-FUNK | howdy | 14:56 |
Q-FUNK | could someone look at Bug #287462 ? | 14:56 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 287462 in gnome-settings-daemon "Intrepid: left-handed mouse setting forgotten after resuming from sleep/hibernation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287462 | 14:57 |
Q-FUNK | I had marked it as g-s-d, but it could also be caused by the new inputdev | 14:57 |
Q-FUNK | I wouldn't know for sure | 14:57 |
Q-FUNK | seb128: since you're also on the desktop team, would you know which package Bug #287462 should be assigned to? | 14:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 287462 in gnome-settings-daemon "Intrepid: left-handed mouse setting forgotten after resuming from sleep/hibernation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287462 | 14:59 |
seb128 | gsd seems to be correct | 15:00 |
Q-FUNK | ok | 15:01 |
Q-FUNK | I wasn't sure. | 15:01 |
Q-FUNK | for all I know, the migration from x-input-kbd to the generic inputdev might have done it. | 15:02 |
seb128 | that's similar to the bug wgrant is working on | 15:02 |
Q-FUNK | it's pretty much the only thing preventing me from upgrading to intrepid. | 15:02 |
seb128 | gnome bug #558644 | 15:02 |
ubottu | Gnome bug 558644 in plugins "Hotplugged mice not reconfigured" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558644 | 15:02 |
Q-FUNK | other than that, intrepid looks like a fantastic release :) | 15:02 |
Q-FUNK | seb128: seems to match my problem fairly closely. I'm guessing that on the way back from sleep/hibernate, the mouse is seen as a new device all over again and then loses its settings. | 15:04 |
Q-FUNK | should I point my bug to that upstream? | 15:04 |
Q-FUNK | even thoguh it's not quite the same, they indeed seem related | 15:04 |
seb128 | I think there is some bug about that already on launchpad, ask to wgrant | 15:05 |
seb128 | otherwise add bug watch to this one | 15:05 |
Q-FUNK | wgrant: can you confirm or mark as duplicate? | 15:08 |
tseliot | mvo, bryce: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19130338/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-hppa.gnome-control-center_1:2.24.0.1-0ubuntu7.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:44 |
mvo | tseliot: hppa ... | 15:46 |
mvo | :) | 15:46 |
tseliot | mvo: shall we ignore it? | 15:47 |
mvo | yes | 15:49 |
mvo | hppa is a bit of a problem currently, a lot of FTBFS | 15:49 |
tseliot | ah, ok | 15:51 |
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