[00:00] <HtheB> Gnea, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921637&highlight=Acer+6920   the sound part
[00:00] <bremby> russianzilla: you'll see. you'll get a blank screen with few possibilities. one of them is xfix
[00:00] <magnetron> jjgalvez__→ use the script at the cd, do NOT try to run "apt-get dist-upgrade" or anything similarily silly
[00:00] <russianzilla> Alright.
[00:00] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: When I used the guided install  with SuSe, I didn't have any problems, but, when I did a manual install of Ubuntu the last time, I had to enter a password to access those FAT32 partitions, what do I do?
[00:00] <bremby> russianzilla: or something like xFix
[00:00] <sahak> tovella: i am going to try a new user now
[00:00] <russianzilla> I'll try that, thanks.
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: do you have the addargvisuals type lines in xorg.conf?
[00:00] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, maybe you were entering a password to mount FAT32?
[00:00] <jimdb> ok, from an update-manger -d to now I have overcome some serious issues.  this last update did nothing but wreak havoc.  to start, I had no gui and it seemed I would not be able to get one working.  I had two 8800gts cards and had a hardy install working fine for the past 6 months.  after doing the update I sat at a character based log in prompt.  even though I have finally gottan a GUI front end and the nvidia drivers running things are 
[00:00] <sahak> tovella: some other user in this channel had the same problem too
[00:00] <jjgalvez__> I'm just using the cd script, I'll try the apt-get clean see if that helps
[00:00] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: I don't know.
[00:01] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, that shouldn't happen this time around, you are safe to do a "manual" partition
[00:01] <b3lorixx> ACtionParsnip: what do you mean
[00:01] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Thank you.
[00:01] <sahak> tovella: jrib i think
[00:01] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, ok i just checked
[00:01] <tovella> sahak: i'm sure it won't happen with a different user account.
[00:01] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, yes you need to enter a password to mount the partition, thats normal
[00:01] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, suse was obviously less secure in this matter
[00:01] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Which partitions should I create to install Ubuntu?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: in section screen do you have:     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[00:01] <||Okkoto||> Hey guys, I'm sort of new.  How do you get scripts to work again?  I typed up a script in the script editor, but I'm not sure how to apply it
[00:02] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: The first time I installed Ubuntu 7.10, I didn't have to enter a password to write to my partitions, but recently, I found that I had to, why?
[00:02] <bremby> ﻿Okkoto: you probably need to make it executable
[00:02] <||Okkoto||> Gotcha
[00:02] <b3lorixx> ACtionParsnip: how do i check
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ||Okkoto||: make sure you have !#/bin/bash as the first line
[00:02] <sahak> tovella: i am going to check now. i'll be back.
[00:02] <wers>  i just installed ibex. now, network manager applet wont run on my account (where my config files are from my old hardy) but network manager works nicely on a fresh account. any idea?
[00:02] <MetalHeadDead> I'm at the end of updating to 8.10 and the process is in the cleaning up stage and it has been there for about 15 minutes, if i expand the terminal window it just says:  removing landscape-client, how can i tell if it's frozen?
[00:02] <HtheB> Gnea, did you read it?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:02] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, you dont have to enter a password to write to them, you just need your user password to mount them, it's so no one else can access your partitions from ubuntu
[00:02] <woody86> ActionParsnip- I checked the MAC addresses, and they don't match. However now both computers are logged online, and neither one has been kicked yet. They are extremely slow though
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> ||Okkoto||: then chmod +x <scriptname>
[00:03] <tovella> ||Okkoto||: gotch? what the heck is this, april fool's day?
[00:03] <Gnea> HtheB: yeah.. that's quite the set of hacks. :)  i'm a bit lost as to what needs to be done with the ibex install :/
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> woody86: try rebooting router and modem if its external to the device
[00:03] <b3lorixx> Actionparsnip: i dont see anything like that
[00:03] <tarek_> hello, does anyone know how to change my wireless config mode from manage to monitor?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: thats why then
[00:03] <woody86> ActionParsnip- ok, nevermind, my desktop was just disconnected from the network
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:04] <sahak> tovella: you were right. it doesn't happen with a new user account
[00:04] <ldiamond> I'm having a problem with installing Linux from a hard drive instead of a CD. Can anyone help me out?
[00:04] <HtheB> Gnea, well.. should I just install OSS ?:)
[00:04] <vanberge> so does adobe flash work better in 8.10 or should i use one of the other flash apps
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: add the line in the screen section, save and close gedit then ctrl+alt+backspace after saving all open docs (or when its convenient)
[00:04] <b3lorixx> ACtionParsnip: ok now what
[00:04] <MetalHeadDead> I'm at the end of updating to 8.10 and the process is in the cleaning up stage and it has been there for about 15 minutes, if i expand the terminal window it just says:  removing landscape-client, how can i tell if it's frozen?
[00:04] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: It automatically mounts the partitions on startup without asking me anything, which is fine, but, I have to open programs using sudo in order to write to those FAT32 partitions, help?
[00:04] <sahak> tovella: wait. it is using compiz now. that's why. let me switch to metacity
[00:04] <HtheB> What is the difference between ALSA and OSS????
[00:04] <HtheB> Gnea,  What is the difference between ALSA and OSS????
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !oss
[00:04] <csilk> how do you stop that annoying bar asking if you want to open fspot if the folder has pics within?
[00:04] <MonkeyMan> How long should the cleaning up process take while upgrading to 8.10?
[00:05] <Gnea> HtheB: wait - http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6057862
[00:05] <jrib> sahak: do you save your session on logout?  And does that actually work (do your apps get reloaded)?
[00:05] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, is this in intrepid?
[00:05] <Gnea> HtheB: OSS is old and clunky, ALSA is new and improved
[00:05] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Yes.
[00:05] <Tetracomm-live> wait
[00:05] <Tetracomm-live> no
[00:05] <homerj> ??
[00:05] <homerj> OOS4 is better than Alsa
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> HtheB: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.php?story=01/03/06/179255
[00:05] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: I had that problem in 7.10, as well as Debian Etch.
[00:05] <Gnea> homerj: wut?
[00:05] <homerj> and Shampoo is better, because it goes on first and cleans the hair
[00:05] <sahak> tovella: after switching to metacity the bug is here.
[00:05] <tarek_> can anyone help please?
[00:05] <b3lorixx> ACtionParsnip liek this? Section "Screen"
[00:05] <b3lorixx> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[00:05] <b3lorixx> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[00:05] <b3lorixx> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[00:05] <b3lorixx> 	DefaultDepth	24
[00:05] <b3lorixx> 	Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[00:05] <FloodBot3> b3lorixx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <sahak> tovella: Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/test/.config/metacity/sessions/10790aea04b02a3c9f122541151659755300000210510005.ms: Failed to open file '/home/test/.config/metacity/sessions/10790aea04b02a3c9f122541151659755300000210510005.ms': No such file or directory
[00:06] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, I have a fat32 partition in hardy and intrepid and i dont have that problem, maybe this is an old problem?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: dont flood dude, bad netiquette
[00:06] <vanberge> homerj, conditioner is better - leaving the hair silky and smooth!
[00:06] <homerj> Gnea, you're confusing old OSS, with the new, vastly improved, and GPL'ed OSS4
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: add the line in that section
[00:06] <MetalHeadDead> is this normal for the update client to take so long on the cleaning up stage?
[00:06] <b3lorixx> ACtionParsnip: i tried not to lol
[00:06] <tovella> sahak: without knowing which file or folder is causing the problem, fixing it is beyond my knowledge.
[00:06] <HtheB> hmm...
[00:06] <bremby> tarek_: have you tried Google? what about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785214
[00:06] <HtheB> Gnea, lol...
[00:06] <HtheB> hda-verb again
[00:06] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: I don't know, it didn't happen when I first installed 7.10.
[00:06] <jjgalvez__> ok I tried apt-get clean followed by gksudo sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade and I'm still getting the Could not calculate upgrade error
[00:06] <HtheB> I just cant apply it
[00:06] <MonkeyMan> Im having the same problem metalheaddead
[00:06] <Jehran> i'm at my wits end... can anyone help me with sound on a toshiba a105-s4334? aplay -l says ALC 861 Analog for sound
[00:06] <Gnea> homerj: ALSA is and always will be, the *Advanced* Linux Sound Architecture :)
[00:06] <csilk> !ask | tarek_
[00:06] <HtheB> because I dont have the hwC0D0 in the /dev/snd/ :(
[00:06] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, the problem is, that in failsafe mode, compiz is already disabled
[00:06] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Which partitions do I have to create to install Ubuntu manually?
[00:06] <MonkeyMan> Taking forever for cleanup to finish
[00:07] <tovella> sahak: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:07] <sahak> tovella: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:07] <TheSHAD0W> Can WUBI build a bootable jump drive?  Or is it more complicated than that?
[00:07] <sahak> tovella: I am using 8.10
[00:07] <MetalHeadDead> monkeyMan:  glad it's not just me lol, it's been doing the same thing for 20 minutes now
[00:07] <b3lorixx> ActionPARSNIP: liek this?
[00:07] <Gnea> HtheB: you went auto?
[00:07] <b3lorixx> http://pastebin.com/m640dd711
[00:07] <tarek_> Thanks bremby!!
[00:07] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, the way I partition prbably isn't standard so I'm the wrong person to ask
[00:07] <HtheB> Gnea, Auto?
[00:07] <Tetracomm-live> Can anyone else help me to determine how safe it is to choose "Guided - Use Largest continuous free space"?
[00:07] <jimminy_cricket> is there a way to fix/reinstall gdm/X from a live cd?
[00:07] <tovella> sahak: 8.04 on 1 machine and 8.10 on 2 others.
[00:07] <MonkeyMan> MIne been going on for over an hour. Shows just a little bit left to go and seems to hang
[00:07] <Gnea> HtheB: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6057862
[00:07] <HtheB> well.. Even if I add or modify the alsa-base
[00:07] <Tetracomm-live> Ok, csilk.
[00:07] <csilk> !install
[00:07] <Gnea> HtheB: someone posted that *yesterday*
[00:07] <HorizonXP> hey, i can't seem to get my nvidia driver working. any help?
[00:07] <ldiamond> When I load 8.10 installation from a hard drive, I get stuck in BusyBox. Can anyone help out?
[00:07] <HtheB> I still need to apply the hwC0D0
[00:07] <MetalHeadDead> monkeyman:  exactly what i've got
[00:07] <HtheB> let me see
[00:08] <MetalHeadDead> monkeyman:  great example of linux stability
[00:08] <jrib> sahak: did you catch my question?
[00:08] <drumstyk1> can someone help me share a folder when 'sudo nautilus' won't work?
[00:08] <Gnea> HtheB: try that one first and reboot, see what happens
[00:08] <MonkeyMan> yeah right. lol
[00:08] <sahak> tovella: can you check if you get that warning on 8.10 machines which run metacity?
[00:08] <^Cheeky> hey iam trying to install wine and i added the sofware sources and when i click the link, download scott ritche key the link erros out on me, the site iam following is thishttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[00:08] <HorizonXP> i go to hardware drivers to activate nvidia 177, a window pops up with a progress bar, and then just closes, seemingly not installing the driver.... how can i fix this?
[00:08] <sahak> jrib: no, what was your question?
[00:08] <jrib> sahak: do you save your session on logout?  And does that actually work (do your apps get reloaded)?
[00:08] <HtheB> ok brb Gnea :)
[00:08] <MonkeyMan> Anybody else have to go through a long cleanup process while upgrading?
[00:08] <sahak> jrib: i don't even know how to save a session on logout
[00:08] <tovella> sahak: no problem on either.  did you do an upgrade or a fresh install?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | HorizonXP
[00:09] <dug_> once you install avant window navigator, do you have to reboot?  the app doesn't start up
[00:09] <MonkeyMan> I was surprised that the downloading of files went very fast.
[00:09] <sahak> tovella: i did an upgrade
[00:09] <jrib> sahak: system -> preferences -> sessions -> options.  I believe it's on by default
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyMan: stil downloading here
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyMan: may as well get upgraded to help folks :D
[00:09] <MonkeyMan> I hate the anticipation. Dammit. lol
[00:09] <mercutio22> There we go
[00:09] <sahak> jrib: it is not enabled
[00:09] <mercutio22> intrepid ibex!
[00:09] <b3lorixx> actionPARSNIP: still have the same problem, its not always liek taht its only when i hover over the bar in certain area, now mind you i have a restricted driver installed
[00:09] <K_Dallas> Hi! would it be easy to get to xubuntu or kubuntu from an ubuntu installation? Thanks
[00:09] <bremby> guys, wish me luck, downloading the last file... I don't wanna get stuck in the cleanup processs
[00:09] <jrib> sahak: never mind then
[00:09] <MetalHeadDead> monkeyman:  yea it said earlier it would take eight hours, so i cancelled, just earlier i decided to upgrade and it didnt even take but like 30 minutes
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: theres one more very similar
[00:10] <vanberge> ok i know i've done this before - can somebody remind me how to 'not show' usb drive icons on the desktop??
[00:10] <Jehran> can anyone help me with ALC861 sound card in 8.10? haven't had any sound since installation, and i've tried pretty much everything on google to no avail regarding that particular card, and no sound at all
[00:10] <drumstyk1> ﻿can someone help me share a folder when 'sudo nautilus' won't work? please?
[00:10] <b3lorixx> ActionParsnip: one more line to add?
[00:10] <MetalHeadDead> this is ridiculous, i cant leave my pc on all night, can i FORCE QUIT the upgrade window?
[00:10] <PassionFRUI7E> I will never use windows again.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: websearch around, its not very different at all, add it to the xorg.conf file and then restart x
[00:10] <tovella> sahak: perhaps that has something to do with it.  if there were some un-announced errors in your previous install, they would have been carried over to intrepid.  did this problem display itself as soon as you upgraded?
[00:10] <Gnea> K_Dallas: yes,  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  or  kubuntu-desktop
[00:10] <jimminy_cricket> drumstyk1 how do you want to share the folders?
[00:10] <PassionFRUI7E> Intrepid is amazing.
[00:10] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: what step is it on?
[00:10] <^Cheeky> when i try installing wine, by adding the the link to source list, and re-loading it , i get this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/64895/ am i using an old link ?
[00:11] <K_Dallas> Gnea, appreciate it, thanks
[00:11] <Tetracomm-live> I selected: "Guided - Use Largest continuous free space", and the installer says this: The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[00:11] <Tetracomm-live>  partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[00:11] <Tetracomm-live>  partition #7 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap  So it won't affect sda5 and sda6 then?
[00:11] <sahak> tovella: yes, it happened after the upgrade
[00:11] <Gnea> Jehran: is that a laptop?
[00:11] <Gnea> K_Dallas: cheers
[00:11] <bremby> ﻿PassionFRUI7E: congrats! :)
[00:11] <Jehran> Gnea: yeah, a toshiba satellite a105-s4334
[00:11] <MetalHeadDead> jrip: cleaning up for 23 minutes now: terminal says removing landscape-client
[00:11] <sahak> jrib: are you seeing the same warning? did you upgrade or did you reinstall?
[00:11] <noclueguy> omg.... omg it seems to work.
[00:11] <PovAddict> this channel is as full as ever or worse
[00:11] <Gnea> !laptop
[00:11] <PassionFRUI7E> The new wifi support is windows quality, minus bloat and profits
[00:11] <b3lorixx> actionparsnip: Option         "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True"?
[00:11] <PovAddict> impossible to ask anything in here...
[00:11] <jrib> sahak: I upgraded.  I see the same error
[00:11] <Jehran> Gnea: ah, thanks, ill take a look
[00:11] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: cleaning up for 23 minutes now: terminal says removing landscape-client
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> b3lorixx: try it, you can always boot to root console and sudo nano to remove it again
[00:11] <Gnea> Jehran: i'm looking too, easier to reference :)
[00:11] <noclueguy> I selected ecc=on with the additional options and now ... damn. It just does the kernel panic again. Damn.
[00:12] <csilk> ubuntu just got an order of magnitude more annoying with the intrepid release -__
[00:12] <csilk> -_-
[00:12] <drumstyk1> jimminy_cricket: well i have it shared already and my xbox with xbmc sees/streams fine.  a win xp machine can see it but wont accept the user/pw... i thought maybe allowing guests would solve the problem
[00:12] <jimminy_cricket> metalheaddead how many packages did it say it needed to remove/clean?
[00:12] <Tetracomm-live> csilk?
[00:12] <PovAddict> csilk: going the Windows way?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> ^Cheeky:  wine from there site hummmmmmm,  why not just do this?  sudo apt-get install wine
[00:12] <LordMetroid> Are there any unofficial repositories out for 8.10?
[00:12] <MonkeyMan> Not sure what step metalheaddead is on but mine is on ldconfig defered procesing now taking place after processing trigger for libc6. Hope that is not a bad sign
[00:12] <MetalHeadDead> jimminy_cricket: it didnt
[00:12] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: I wouldn't cancel a running upgrade
[00:12] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but that doesn't really address my problem...
[00:12] <csilk> PovAddict, yes, trying to make things "user-friendly" but providing no obviouis way to disable the said features
[00:12] <jimminy_cricket> give it a while longer then
[00:12] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me? I'm dropping in BusyBox instead of loading the Live CD?
[00:12] <jimminy_cricket> be patient
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> HorizonXP: what nvidia card do you have?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: you should use offical when you can,  and  I guess getdeb.net will be updated for Ibex
[00:13] <jimminy_cricket> drumstyk1: are you using smb then?
[00:13] <^Cheeky> sebsebseb, what about, that dude key they tell me to add ?
[00:13] <jrib> ldiamond: did you run "check the cd for defects" from the CD's boot menu?
[00:13] <drumstyk1> correct
[00:13] <sebsebseb> ^Cheeky:  what?
[00:13] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip: GeForce Go 7600
[00:13] <tovella> sahak: the answer probably lies somewhere within the upgrade...likely problems that existed prior but didn't display themselves.  that's why i always do a fresh install.  of course i backup my /etc /home and some other directories every night.
[00:13] <Tetracomm-live> csilk:  I selected: "Guided - Use Largest continuous free space", and the installer says this: The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[00:13] <Tetracomm-live>   partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[00:13] <Tetracomm-live>   partition #7 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap  So it won't affect sda5 and sda6 then?
[00:13] <reya276> Does anyone knows which directory should I install a non repository app?
[00:13] <LordMetroid> sebsebseb, I appreciate that you want me to use the default ones however those do not contain all applications I wish to install
[00:13] <jimminy_cricket> change the permissions of the folders you want to share
[00:13] <ldiamond> jrib, I dont get in the CD's boot menu. I'm using grub to boot the image from a hard drive.
[00:13] <eight> MetalHeadDead
[00:13] <DrX> is there a way to create a permissions tree for, say, / ?
[00:13] <HtheB> Gnea, no
[00:13] <HtheB> :(
[00:13] <tarek_> can we still visit web pages when we set up our wireless network to "monitor" mode??
[00:13] <jimminy_cricket> if xbmc can use them then its the other end
[00:13] <Gnea> Jehran: hrm, closest i could find to it.. http://web.archive.org/web/20070611152203/http://jcsteele.blogspot.com/2006/10/toshiba-a105-s4134-and-ubuntu-linux.html
[00:14] <^Cheeky> sebsebseb, let me do it through cli
[00:14] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: well you can install other Linux programs from there website/server
[00:14] <csilk> Tetracomm-live,  looks like it wont, is the ext3 partition big enough for you@?
[00:14] <Gnea> HtheB: !
[00:14] <reya276> Meaning, what is the standard dir where one would install a non repository application?
[00:14] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know a way to reinstall x/gdm from a live cd?
[00:14] <MetalHeadDead> my terminal is just froze up,  it says Reading Database: 139673 files and directories currently installed) removing landscape client
[00:14] <HtheB> Gnea, still no sound
[00:14] <MetalHeadDead> eight
[00:14] <reya276> here is what I'm trying to do http://www.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_Aptana_on_Linux
[00:14] <dimedo> can anyone please tell me how to disable compiz without an xsession.
[00:15] <jjgalvez__> any more thoughts on what to do with a "Could not calculate the upgrade" error? when trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 using the alt disk?
[00:15] <^Cheeky> sebsebseb, its downloading
[00:15] <MonkeyMan> eight what metal?
[00:15] <^Cheeky> sebsebseb, hehe
[00:15] <HtheB> there is no soundcard drivers at all now
[00:15] <drumstyk1> jimminy_cricket: that seems weird as it is a fresh xp install.  would you happen to know a command to allow guests (aka remove username/pw prompt) for my share?
[00:15] <||Okkoto||> Check out: http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5491516
[00:15] <Jehran> Gnea: previously when i used 8.04, sound would work randomly maybe one out of every three boots... a while ago with feisty fawn, it worked every time, but now nada... it's very strange
[00:15] <||Okkoto||> pretty neat stuff
[00:15] <Gnea> HtheB: ugh... if i were you, i'd reply to that posting and say that it didn't work for you and see if someone else has a suggestion
[00:15] <tarek_> does anyone know how to connect to a wireless network in terminal?
[00:15] <bremby> dimedo: have you tried booting into failsafe?
[00:15] <tovella> jimminy_cricket: change your software sources to include the CD. System > Administration > Software Sources.
[00:15] <lfaraone_> Hey, is there a gui for fsck? (or a way of showing a progress bar, I don't know if my disk is doing anything when I run fsck from the terminal on it (USB hard drive))
[00:15] <^SupaBeast^> what kind of device is "sr0"?
[00:15] <HtheB> ok thnx Gnea :)
[00:15] <Gnea> Jehran: do you have builtin speakers?
[00:15] <jrib> ||Okkoto||: don't advertise here
[00:16] <MetalHeadDead> and when i click on something in the upgrade window it has a majorly lagged response
[00:16] <jimminy_cricket> drumstyk1:  you need to change the folder permissions
[00:16] <Jehran> Gnea: yeah, they're part of the laptop chassis, if that's what you mean, i haven't tried the headphone output
[00:16] <dimedo> bremby, in the xservers failsafe mode compiz is already disabled, so i can't disable it
[00:16] <drumstyk1> i would do it in nautilus but sudo nautilus returns errors
[00:16] <MetalHeadDead> im forceing it to stop this is ridiculous
[00:16]  * K_Dallas is glad that he just did a fresh install and everything seems to be working fine on the desktop, will do the same on the laptop later :)
[00:16] <jimminy_cricket> 3rd digit needs to be a 6
[00:16] <evilGUI> I could really use some help I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and the installer got stuck on config iptables or somthing like that so I thought 6 hours was long enough so I powered off my computer and restarted everything seems fine but doesn't seem to be upgraded anything I need to do to make sure this install keeps working?
[00:16] <MetalHeadDead> that fixed the problem
[00:16] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: you are likely to have problems when you boot again
[00:16] <PassionFRUI7E> "Desktop effects could not be enabled".  And for some reason fglrx cannot be enabled after installed.
[00:16] <MetalHeadDead> too late now
[00:16] <Gnea> Jehran: well, i have a satellite (different model) and I had that problem before - eventually, it just 'worked', but I found that plugging external speakers or headphones in got it working
[00:16] <jimminy_cricket> tovella: im just trying to fix a current install, not use the cd to reinstall
[00:16] <sebsebseb> evilGUI:  just run the update procedure again
[00:16] <MonkeyMan> Well I am off and hoping my upgrade is not just stalled out. Maybe will finish cleanng up soon. I hope
[00:16] <PassionFRUI7E> At least I don't get a white screen and have to restart
[00:17] <tarek_> how to connect to Essid using terminal??
[00:17] <jimminy_cricket> x doesnt currently work
[00:17] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me? I'm dropping in BusyBox instead of loading the Live CD (from a hard drive)?
[00:17] <jimminy_cricket> thats why it needs to be fixed
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> HorizonXP: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[00:17] <MetalHeadDead> it was doing nothing jrib.  it was froze
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> HorizonXP: envyng-gtk is an option
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | HorizonXP
[00:17] <jrib> ldiamond: you need to mention that you are not just booting straight from the cd...
[00:17] <baldur> s
[00:17] <Znuff> Hi. I have the 8.10 .iso, how do I boot it from USB?
[00:17] <Jehran> Gnea: hm, i'll try the headphone jack, that'd be a great temporary fix, i just need some sort of sound... i suppose i'll keep fidgeting with alsa
[00:17] <^SupaBeast^> sr0 = cdrom drive? or is it a harddrive? or doesn't "sr" mean anything?
[00:17] <MetalHeadDead> im going to reboot
[00:17] <tovella> jimminy_cricket: that's what i thought, that's why i posted what i did.
[00:17] <sahak> jrib: subscribe to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/150721
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> !usb | Znuff
[00:17] <csilk> Tetracomm-live,  looks like it wont, is the ext3 partition big enough for you@?
[00:17] <sebsebseb> !usb |  Znuff
[00:17] <sahak> jrib: and add your comments
[00:17] <drumstyk1> jimminy_cricket: is there another way to change the folder permissions besides sudo nautilus? sudo nautilus gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/64884/
[00:17] <ldiamond> jrib, I am
[00:18] <ldiamond> jrib, I am (mentioning it)
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !usb
[00:18] <PassionFRUI7E> Does anybody know a problem with enabling FGLRX?
[00:18] <ichthys> !usb
[00:18] <reya276> oh nevermind eclipse will do
[00:18] <Gnea> Jehran: it could be there's a short inside of the system... or maybe a tiny peice of stray metal strand in the headphone jack that's causing an electrical bridge
[00:18] <jimminy_cricket> drumstyk1: use chmod
[00:18] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Yes. There were 12GB of free space.
[00:18] <tovella> jimminy_cricket: is there an x-session working at all on the machine in question?
[00:18] <jrib> ldiamond: /usr/share/gnome/default.session doesn't exist now though
[00:18] <n8tuser> drumstyk1-> man chmod
[00:18] <woody86> ActionParsnip- ok, I restarted my router and modem, but now when my desktop gets kicked from the network it won't reconnect even if I reenter the password, unless I restart my computer, and then it starts all over again :(
[00:18] <Gnea> Jehran: might want to try cleaning it out with canned air
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !usb
[00:18] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, is 12gig relaly big enough?
[00:18] <csilk> *really
[00:18] <drumstyk1> great, thanks guys!
[00:18] <sebsebseb> why do my bot triggers not work?
[00:18] <Jehran> Gnea: perhaps, sound was working fine on windows yesterday which was odd, but a cleaning might do it some good
[00:18] <jimminy_cricket> tovella: no, x appears to start but doesnt fully initialise, it just gives me a blank screen
[00:19] <jimminy_cricket> i can debug though
[00:19] <jimminy_cricket> and ssh etc works fine
[00:19] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Yes. :) That is all I have.
[00:19] <Tetracomm-live> I'm poor.
[00:19] <tovella> jimminy_cricket: i see... then you will have to do it manually - from a terminal session.
[00:19] <Gnea> Jehran: see if that works and if it doesn't, come back and i'm sure someone can help you try a different approach
[00:19] <MonkeyMan> metalhead gonna have real problems if he reboots. hehe
[00:19] <jimminy_cricket> thats good... and how would i do that?
[00:19] <techsupport> how can i upgrade my 8.04 server to 8.10 ?
[00:19] <Jehran> Gnea: alright, thanks for the help!
[00:19] <Gnea> Jehran: no problem, good luck
[00:19] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: no problems
[00:20] <jimminy_cricket> techsupport: use sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[00:20] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: try using apt
[00:20] <MetalHeadDead> monkeyman: i just force quit and restarted and it still works
[00:20] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: what do you mean
[00:20] <Gnea> !upgrade | techsupport
[00:20] <MonkeyMan> well fuck it I am gonna try the dame thing
[00:20] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: use a package manager
[00:20] <Gnea> !language | MonkeyMan
[00:20] <tarek_> im tryin to find the command that allow me to connect to my wireless ssid using terminal?
[00:20] <MetalHeadDead> like sudo apt-get install distro
[00:21] <MetalHeadDead> or something like that
[00:21] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: something that exists, sure
[00:21] <noclueguy> is it possible a server halt comes from too much memory?
[00:21] <tovella> jimminy_cricket: techsupport: you'll have to update your /etc/apt/sources.list file first - change all instances of hardy to intrepid.
[00:21] <noclueguy> sorry not server halt ... kernel panic
[00:21] <Slart> hmm.. anyone found a way to get flash to use pulseaudio yet?
[00:21] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: im just going to keep 8.04 until the bugs are worked out of 8.10
[00:21] <jrib> jimminy_cricket, tovella: do not upgrade that way.  It is not supported
[00:21] <templaedhel> Does 8.10 have the ui overhaul????
[00:22] <genii> noclueguy: Not very likely
[00:22] <MetalHeadDead> i cant d/l the files all over again i dont have time, im on dsl 1.5
[00:22] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: um, what does 'lsb_release -c' return for you?
[00:22] <noclueguy> so it does handle 4 Gigs
[00:22] <jrib> !upgrade > jimminy_cricket
[00:22] <jrib> !upgrade > tovella
[00:22] <jimminy_cricket> wtf
[00:22] <jimminy_cricket> i dont want to upgrade
[00:22] <MetalHeadDead> code name hardy
[00:22] <genii> noclueguy: 64bit and 32bit-server do. Regular 32 bit does not
[00:23] <jimminy_cricket> ive already tried upgrading and had serious problems
[00:23] <jimminy_cricket> thats why im here
[00:23] <noclueguy> omg. I just got 32-Desktop. I mean does it ignore 4 and uses 3 or does that may cause the trouble?
[00:23] <tarek_> connect to wireless in terminal???
[00:23] <jrib> techsupport: do not upgrade by editing sources.list directly as it is not supported
[00:23] <jimminy_cricket> i need to know if there is a way to reinstall x and gdm from a livecd
[00:23] <genii> noclueguy: But even when it cannot see all the ram, it will not cause any kind of kernel panic
[00:23] <MetalHeadDead> !upgrade
[00:23] <HorizonXP> actionparsnip: I'm updating my packages now, so i'll try Hardware Drivers again. I'd rather use the supported ones, i have no need for the latest ones
[00:23] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: why?
[00:23] <jimminy_cricket> because x/gdm isnt starting properly
[00:23] <tovella> jrib: ahh, i see the difference... a lot more has changed than meets the eye.  i actually prefer doing fresh installs - backup every night so restoration of key files is never a problem.
[00:24] <jimminy_cricket> it looks like gdm isnt starting because x is broken
[00:24] <runemaste644> Its STILL stuck!
[00:24] <Deiselton> hey guys i have a very simple question
[00:24] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: why would reinstalling fix anything?   pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:24] <noclueguy> genii: thanks for that imput. That just confirms what I thaught anyway. But since I'm a little lost I just start to speculate a little bit.
[00:24] <mgutz> is anyone using 8.10 with 3ware 9650SE Raid? would not even boot when i tried several weeks back.
[00:24] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: what would i put in terminal to install that way?
[00:24] <runemaste644> The updater is frozen, what do I do now?
[00:24] <techsupport> jrib, i'm running sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:24] <jimminy_cricket> jrib can i pm?
[00:25] <Tom_Davis> ok, I seem to be doing it wrong, in gnome, preferences, sound, all the settings are alsa and the test sounds work, but no login sounds no rythmbox sound, halp!
[00:25] <Atomic_UE> I've got an 'AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+' . Should I get the amd64 or i386 release of ubuntu? or it doesn't matter?
[00:25] <genii> noclueguy: np
[00:25] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: if it's about support, I'd prefer you talk here.  Otherwise, sure
[00:25] <quang1e> hi guys. I'm looking for a tool for hardy to make a live usb, but can't find any packages in synaptic. Can someone point me to the live usb creator deb or something?
[00:25] <Deiselton> a while back i was playing arround setting my screensave as my desktop... i went into a program and set it not to show desktop.... cant remeber what that program was but it is the defualt program ubuntu used to build your desktop... can anyone point me in the right direction
[00:25] <Deiselton> ?
[00:25] <jimminy_cricket> i can't paste because its not this pc
[00:25] <jimminy_cricket> i can only debug
[00:25] <jimminy_cricket> i have no gui
[00:25] <wers>  /join #ubuntu-ph
[00:25] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: install pastebinit
[00:25] <tovella> quang1e: why not use intrepid to do this?
[00:26] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: install what way?
[00:26] <quang1e> tovella, because I want to install Intrepid from usb stick
[00:26] <MetalHeadDead> jrib: using the terminal alone instead of the update manager
[00:26] <quang1e> tovella, I don't want to wast a CD
[00:26] <Znuff> !usb | quang1e
[00:26] <jrib> !upgrade > MetalHeadDead
[00:26] <noclueguy> genii:I mean. It starts the install menu from the live CD. It loads the installing assistant. Sometimes it hangs already after the Wallpaper is shown, then it comes untill the part where you can change the partitions. I don't know what it could be.
[00:26] <runemaste644> Does the upgrade have to clean up at all costs?
[00:26] <jrib> MetalHeadDead: follow the server instructions
[00:26] <csilk_> -_-
[00:26] <tarelerulz> I want to make a differnet partition for home ,but while I was in my main  Ubuntu install. I could not resize my main partition.  I have /dev/ hda1  linux , /dev/ hda2  extened  and /dev/hda5  linux swap.  I want to make in the feature so I can have more the 4 partitions .  What do I do
[00:26] <ldiamond> Znuff
[00:27] <ldiamond> Znuff, do you know how to make the install from a USB hard drive that has GRUB on it?
[00:27] <csilk_> wtf
[00:27] <tovella> quang1e: i thought you said hardy, do you want hardy or intrepid on the flash drive?
[00:27] <Znuff> ldiamond, no idea
[00:27] <runemaste644> Or can i get away with not letting it clean up?
[00:27] <quang1e> tovella, i want to create intrepid live usb on hardy
[00:27] <jimminy_cricket> and how do i use pastebinit
[00:27] <harisund> Is it wrong to just do a s/hardy/intrepid on my /etc/apt/sources.list and do a apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:27] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: cat file | pastebinit
[00:27] <quang1e> I think Znuff pointed me the right way
[00:28] <jimminy_cricket> ok
[00:28] <nekostar> harisund no its not wrong
[00:28] <`Blue> Can you do an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 through update manager?
[00:28] <Znuff> quang1e, yeah, doing the same thing now :P
[00:28] <harisund> nekostar: thanks :) just wanting to make sure
[00:28] <Tom_Davis> I need help with ibex sound, halp!
[00:28] <jimminy_cricket> http://pastebin.com/f7886f740
[00:28] <quang1e> Znuff, heh thanks dude :D
[00:28] <nekostar> Code_Bleu must upgrade through 8.04 first
[00:28] <csilk> Code_Bleu,  might need to go to 8.04 first
[00:28] <HorizonXP> Znuff: and it's ppl like you that's making the servers stupid slow for the rest of us!
[00:28] <Znuff> HorizonXP, I'm sorry?
[00:29] <HorizonXP> Znuff: you should be! :P
[00:29] <Code_Bleu> Can you upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 with a CD then?
[00:29] <tovella> quang1e: i see.  i don't know of a .deb that does that in hardy, but if you upgrade (via the internet) you can then create the bootable flash drive you desire (to install on subsequent machines).
[00:29] <nekostar> HorizonXP thats why we intelligent one's upgraded a couple weeks ago and well
[00:29] <nekostar> its fine for now
[00:29] <nekostar> :P
[00:29] <Znuff> HorizonXP, how exactly am I making the servers slow?
[00:29] <nekostar> Code_Bleu no
[00:29] <jimminy_cricket> http://pastebin.com/f1d7fd616
[00:29] <quang1e> tovella, yeah i want a clean install since i have a seperate home partition anyway
[00:29] <nekostar> Code_Bleu because things change places and multiple versions it will break.
[00:29] <nekostar> Code_Bleu nothing stopping you from dling the iso and trying anyway
[00:29] <nekostar> ;)
[00:30] <pur-angst> Hello
[00:30] <nekostar> just be aware it's going to break
[00:30] <tovella> quang1e: agreed... i prefer a clean install, too.
[00:30] <epifanio> ok ... after 4 reboot i solved my kerboyard problems :-D
[00:30] <nekostar> epifanio yey
[00:30] <BrantlyMedders> Just a quick question, is there any real reason to upgrade from Hardy to Ibex, are there any new "must have" features?
[00:30] <evilGUI> after a failed upgrade and trying to upgrade again using the update manager I get Not all updates can be installed Run a partial upgrade when I do that I get Can not upgrade
[00:30] <evilGUI> An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool.
[00:30] <jimminy_cricket> BrantlyMedders: look on the ubuntu site, there is a list of the main changes
[00:30] <runemaste644> I desperately need help. The upgrade has benn stuck on cleaning up for HOURS. How do i fix it?
[00:30] <genii> BrantlyMedders: Depends who you ask
[00:30] <tovella> quang1e: do you have another networked machine with 2 or more network cards installed?
[00:31] <ORdie> my 8.1 doesn't like using the wired connection
[00:31] <quang1e> tovella, nope
[00:31] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: anything useful in the pasta?
[00:31] <evilGUI> and I'm upgrading from Hardy to 8.10
[00:31] <det> How can I get firefox to respect my DPI ?
[00:31] <vanberge> hmm.... 8.10 can't mount nfs out of the box eh ?
[00:32] <^SupaBeast^> where can i find the "md5 hash" for 8.10?
[00:32] <Code_Bleu> what do you all use for a "ghost" like backup, with the option to open and restore individual files?
[00:32] <tovella> quang1e: you've already downloaded the cd iso file?
[00:32] <quang1e> tovella, yes
[00:32] <evilGUI> anyone know how to fix this and get the update reinstalled?
[00:32] <cabrioleur> evilGUI, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[00:33] <csilk> evilGUI, 'this' is?
[00:33] <the|Navigator> Is there something wrong with the recent guest manager update?
[00:33] <the|Navigator> it's 404ing
[00:33] <CompactDistance> is there much point to clean installing 8.10 rather than upgrading from 8.04?
[00:33] <kholerabbi> does transmission (in hardy) restore torrents after a shutdown?
[00:33] <quang1e> Znuff, looks like i need to burn a live cd so that i can make a live usb with live usb system creator. that kinda defeats the point :\
[00:33] <cabrioleur> ^SupaBeast^, sorry, it was for you, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[00:33] <noclueguy> genii: do you think the alternate installation cd would avoid the kernel panic since less modules might be loaded?
[00:33] <HorizonXP> Znuff: if you're downloading all of your packages from the servers, it makes it slow for the rest of us that only need to download a few packages
[00:33] <n8tuser> CompactDistance-> plenty,  if you dont want to pull your hair out
[00:33] <CompactDistance> haha
[00:33] <CompactDistance> cheers
[00:33] <tovella> quang1e: again i don't know of a .deb that will do it, but there were some instructions on pendrivelinux.org for an older version of ubuntu.  the procedure should be the same.
[00:33] <wers> i saw screenshots of intrepid having a panel background but now that i installed it, i dont see one. is there really an official intrepid panel background?
[00:34] <HorizonXP> nekostar: and I usually do that, I've just been too busy to do that this time around
[00:34] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: still there?
[00:34] <nekostar> HorizonXP well at least you have one thing to console you
[00:34] <sysrpn> is there anyone here with ibec and flash 10 working? i am trying to get my flash sound working and am looking for help
[00:34] <quang1e> tovella, hm ok. Kinda stupid frankly that they don't provide a backport, since it's a pretty common usecase I'd imagine
[00:34] <nekostar> your ubuntu updates are only as slow as windows updates now :P
[00:34] <n8tuser> wers some features are not familiar to us yet, so perhaps you can google?
[00:34] <tovella> quang1e: sorry, that should have been pendrivelinux.com
[00:34] <EeveeTrainer> hi
[00:34] <sysrpn> ibec = ibex
[00:34] <nekostar> sort of evens things out >_>
[00:34] <EeveeTrainer> is there a guide to installing ubuntu on a usb flash drive
[00:34] <BBWonder> QUESTION to anyone who might know: when typing *startx* in CLI, I get returned the following error: *xinit: error in locking authorative file (Xauthority) -- What's wrong here?
[00:34] <genii> noclueguy: Offhand no idea.
[00:34] <the|Navigator> Has anyone else on ubuntu recieved an update in their list which can't install because it 404s?  (gdm guest manager)
[00:35] <n8tuser> EeveeTrainer-> yes, you can google for it pleae
[00:35] <nekostar> BBWonder because you already have X open for that user
[00:35] <HorizonXP> nekostar: lol, i guess...
[00:35] <Baatti> Hi, I need some help
[00:35] <CO2Games> son of a bitch...
[00:35] <evilGUI> so this is what I did I did the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 on the cleaning up stage it sat at iptable or something like that so I killed the power and booted now I can't run the upgrade again =(
[00:35] <tovella> quang1e: it's a new feature of a new version of ubuntu.  a backport may take some time.
[00:35] <cabrioleur> the|Navigator, you can refresh the apt-get, it should help.
[00:35] <noclueguy> genii: I'll just give it a try. I'll keep you updated :-)
[00:35] <CO2Games> who the hell put my bot in here
[00:35] <nekostar> BBWonder if you have in intrepid just install fast-user-switch-applet and use it
[00:35] <the|Navigator> cabrioleur: No, it's listed still
[00:35] <redvamp128> ﻿hey all-- I have asked this question waited 1 hour and no response back-- the new Flash 10.0.24.36 is it stable enough for use?
[00:35] <BBWonder> nekostar: I don't think so, did * GDM stop*
[00:35] <nekostar> then you can switch users just like in winblowz ;)_
[00:35] <woody86> can anyone help me out, update-manager was working fine, but now it gives me an error messsage stating "unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/ ...... the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened"
[00:35] <cabrioleur> the|Navigator, what package?
[00:35] <csilk> redvamp128,  is it a stable release?
[00:35] <EeveeTrainer> is there a guide on ubuntu.com for installing it to a usb drive?
[00:36] <the|Navigator> gdm guest thingy
[00:36] <nekostar> BBWonder do: `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop`
[00:36] <nekostar> then wait
[00:36] <CO2Games> @part #ubuntu
[00:36] <nekostar> then do it again
[00:36] <quang1e> tovella, i can see why that is, but still. It'd make more sense to push it to hardy before intrepid since that's where people upgrade from
[00:36] <csilk> redvamp128, also there is alot of noise in this chan so you may need to ask more than once
[00:36] <woody86> EeveeTrainer- google for Unetbootin :)
[00:36] <nekostar> then do `sudo killall gdm`
[00:36] <Baatti> I'm trying to do a full install of ubuntu 8.04 on my computer, but when I run the live cd, and choose 'Install Ubuntu', it takes me to a Debian shell pompt, and I can't install ubuntu, I don't know what to enter in
[00:36] <nekostar> then sudo top
[00:36] <BBWonder> nekostar: aha do it again? hadn't thought of that
[00:36] <nekostar> then in top push u for user, and enter your user
[00:36] <woody86> EeveeTrainer- or try searching for it under Ubuntu Documentation
[00:36] <nekostar> then kill all but top and bash processes of your user
[00:36] <the|Navigator> cabrioleur: hang on, the packages are slowly appearing on the mirror
[00:36] <coz_> hey guys, I noticed when downloading, at least from the location I chose,  and on the main site that the md5sums  were not avilable, did I miss them sonewhere?
[00:36] <nekostar> THEN startx and guess what - no conflicts ;D
[00:37] <redvamp128> For the person-- who said debian prompt- try the following-- boot live then choose install--make sure to be connected to the interner
[00:37] <redvamp128> oops internet
[00:37] <nekostar> coz_ hey sup thar ?
[00:37] <bungieQord> jtisme, are you there?
[00:37] <nekostar> from main site?
[00:37] <coz_> nekostar,  hey guy
[00:37] <BBWonder> nekostar: how do I do *kill all but top and bash processes*
[00:37] <coz_> nekostar,   if you mean me yes i couldnlt find the md5sums
[00:37] <tovella> quang1e: perhaps you could suggest it to the developers (without calling them stupid).
[00:38] <woooooooooooooah> umm i cant get packages any more for intrepid beta
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> hello, i have just installed the usb key install using the new feature onto my usb flash drive
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> it will not boot
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> on several machines
[00:38] <quang1e> tovella, heh didn't mean to imply anything here :)   Actually UNetbootin seems to do what i need
[00:38] <nekostar> http://mirror.umoss.org/ubuntu-iso/intrepid/MD5SUMS
[00:38] <Baatti> redvamp128 I am connected to the internet, and when I choose Install, it just takes me to a prompt, it does the same thing when I choose to try the demo of Ubuntu without installing
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> one of which is KNOWN to support usb
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> why isn't this working?
[00:38] <redvamp128> no I mean boot to live
[00:38] <redvamp128> then choose the install
[00:38] <mib_zw5f0v> is there a problem with unetbootin?
[00:38] <n8tuser> mib_zw5f0v-> have you modified your bios to boot from usb?
[00:38] <coz_> nekostar,   ok thanks guy :)
[00:38] <Baatti> boot to live?
[00:38] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: url to the paste?
[00:38] <redvamp128> I had that issue with other debian distro
[00:38] <Baatti> what do you mean?
[00:38] <tovella> quang1e: cool, UNetbootin... huh?  I'll have to take a look.
[00:39] <nekostar> coz_ it did not show on the download page i used to gen that url either though. good point - might wanna tell someone who can do something
[00:39] <redvamp128> that is what worked on that one-- boot to live then from the live choose hard drive install
[00:39] <mib_zw5f0v> n8tuser: it is known to work with USB
[00:39] <mib_zw5f0v> there is a problem with unetbootin i believe
[00:39] <Thayle> So I can't install Ubuntu... Everytime I try, after the orange bar loads I get this error: iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_SCAN_ABORT_CMD: time out after 500ms.
[00:39] <jimminy_cricket> http://pastebin.com/f7886f740
[00:39] <jimminy_cricket> http://pastebin.com/f1d7fd616
[00:39] <coz_> nekostar,   mm   ok  thanks
[00:39] <Ben> i am trying to use sykpe with video but it only displays a bunch of weird green lines, any ideas?
[00:39] <nekostar> ^^
[00:39] <n8tuser> mib_zw5f0v-> have you modified your bios to boot from usb?  <-- you didnt answer this
[00:39] <Baatti> I don't know what you mean by 'boot to live'
[00:39] <russianzilla> Alright, question for anyone willing to help.
[00:39] <Anza> how can I update firefox?
[00:39] <russianzilla> I tried to update to Intrepid, that failed.
[00:39] <redvamp128> -- on the ubuntu cd-- there is an option for run live
[00:39] <russianzilla> It hung on the cleaning up stage
[00:39] <Anza> whenever I open my hotmail email it says firefox is not the last version
[00:39] <Anza> I thought it was
[00:39] <russianzilla> I rebooted, X Server was messed up, wouldn't use the right drivers
[00:40] <n8tuser> russianzilla-> your the 339 user to complain of such.. :)
[00:40] <russianzilla> I went into recovery mode, repaired X and dpkg
[00:40] <nekostar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS ah there it is - that's the official one coz_
[00:40] <grykgru> i keep experiencing difficulty when i disable my bluetooth adaptor: http://rafb.net/p/YBVZM796.html
[00:40] <russianzilla> Oh, super.
[00:40] <EeveeTrainer> hi. is it possible for ubuntu to read NFTS file systems on windows partitions?
[00:40] <woooooooooooooah> i cant get package list on my intrepid right now
[00:40] <woooooooooooooah> wtf
[00:40] <redvamp128> just click contiue-- the hotmail-msn is not-- considering 3.0.3 to be the latest linux version
[00:40] <russianzilla> At any rate, the system is in some weird halfway stage.
[00:40] <evilGUI> 8.10 doesn't seem ready to me failed on 4 machines I've tried today
[00:40] <redvamp128> or correct version--
[00:40] <nekostar> EeveeTrainer yes
[00:40] <helder> hi
[00:40] <mib_zw5f0v> anyplace for me to go with usb boot issues?
[00:40] <Ben> any ideas for how to get skype video working?
[00:40] <jimminy_cricket> russianzilla: i think i'm having the same problem as you
[00:40] <mib_zw5f0v> the new feature is bunk
[00:40] <jimminy_cricket> can you get x to start?
[00:40] <mib_zw5f0v> *junk
[00:40] <russianzilla> When I restarted it told me I had something like 600 updates so I should do a partial upgrade
[00:40] <helder> im using xubuntu, how can i install gnome and use "ubuntu" ?
[00:40] <nekostar> woooooooooooooah give it time, the servers are overloaded
[00:40] <runemaste644> russianzilla: its hanging on cleaning up for me
[00:41] <coz_> nekostar,   these md5sums are not even close to the read out  darn
[00:41] <russianzilla> Except it then told me I couldn't do a partial upgrade from Intrepid to Hardy
[00:41] <Thayle> So that would be a no one knows about my problem?
[00:41] <nekostar> coz_ perhaps wget -c or axel are in time :P
[00:41] <Baatti> yeah, I don't have that option...if I run the cd in windows, it tells me to install it in windows, or reboot and try the demo/or install.  I'm running the Live CD from bootup...both options 'Install Ubuntu' and 'Try ubuntu with no changes to your computer' take me to that prompt
[00:41] <evilGUI> russiansillza same
[00:41] <redvamp128> it is not an issue with -- firefox but with Hotmail and Linux-- I ran 2.0.17 under wine and it says I have the latest one--(which it reports that it is windows)
[00:41] <helder> how can i upgrade xubuntu to ubuntu ?
[00:41] <russianzilla> Manually installed the updates, now I don't really know what version of Ubuntu I'm running.
[00:41] <csilk> thats annoying, when you download a java ide without having a java already installed it downlaod the open jdk rather than the sun jdk VERY annoying
[00:41] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: what exactly happens?  It seems like X has no errors
[00:41] <evilGUI> I'm doing a apt-get upgrade hope it fixes this
[00:41] <EeveeTrainer> what is necessary for ubuntu to be able to read ntfs file systems on windows partitions?
[00:41] <Atomic_UE> I've got an 'AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+' . Should I get the amd64 or i386 release of ubuntu? or it doesn't matter?
[00:41] <evilGUI> it has 600 or so things to install :/
[00:41] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: i get a blank screen, just a plain orange colour when it boots
[00:41] <jrib> Atomic_UE: how much ram?
[00:42] <nekostar> Atomic_UE if you feel that you want 64 bit go for it
[00:42] <evilGUI> so try that I guess 2 hours =(
[00:42] <Thayle> Everytime I try, after the orange bar loads I get this error: iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_SCAN_ABORT_CMD: time out after 500ms.
[00:42] <jimminy_cricket> no desktop, no apps that should boot at startup
[00:42] <jimminy_cricket> etc etc
[00:42] <nekostar> however i recommend 32bit unless you have more than 4GB ram
[00:42] <mib_zw5f0v> anyone?
[00:42] <Atomic_UE> jrib, 1gb
[00:42] <helder> anyone please?
[00:42] <helder> how can i upgrade xubuntu to ubuntu ?
[00:42] <nekostar> helder ah hold on
[00:42] <grykgru> i keep experiencing difficulty when i disable my bluetooth adaptor: http://rafb.net/p/YBVZM796.html
[00:42] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: comment the UseFBDev option and see what happens
[00:42] <IdahoEv> if I'm looking at a file with "ls -l" , what does an @ sign mean next to the permissions?  Like this:  -rw-r--r--@
[00:42] <nekostar> helder whats your current version?
[00:42] <evilGUI> helder sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <russianzilla> I guess my main question is this: how do I get my computer to a point where I can upgrade to Intrepid?
[00:42] <bungieQord> jtisme, are you there?
[00:42] <jrib> Atomic_UE: I'd go with 32bit then
[00:42] <helder> 8.10
[00:42] <nekostar> russianzilla what version are you now?
[00:42] <Atomic_UE> jrib, really?
[00:42] <LordMetroid> Where do one configure the notification applet?
[00:42] <russianzilla> Great question.
[00:43] <russianzilla> I was on Hardy
[00:43] <Baatti> yeah, I don't have that option...if I run the cd in windows, it tells me to install it in windows, or reboot and try the demo/or install.  I'm running the Live CD from bootup...both options 'Install Ubuntu' and 'Try ubuntu with no changes to your computer' take me to that prompt
[00:43] <nekostar> helder sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
[00:43] <jrib> Atomic_UE: you'll have less hassles
[00:43] <russianzilla> Until the upgrade failed and now I don't know where it is.
[00:43] <jimminy_cricket> whats a command line txt editor?
[00:43] <nekostar> helder it should tell you a bunch of packages are dying
[00:43] <nekostar> but you need to do that from a console
[00:43] <jrib> Atomic_UE: you really only need 64bit if you want to use >=4gb of ram
[00:43] <nekostar> because it's going to kill your X
[00:43] <helder> ok
[00:43] <EeveeTrainer> hi i'm interested in switching from windows to ubuntu but im wondering.. is there an equivalent for microsoft office for ubuntu?:)
[00:43] <redvamp128> okay so you may have a bad burn
[00:43] <evilGUI> jimminy_cricket nano
[00:43] <Atomic_UE> jrib, ok
[00:43] <nekostar> then install ubuntu-desktop for gnome or kubuntu-desktop for kde
[00:43] <scientes> jrib, or the full capibilities of your hardware....
[00:43] <jrib> EeveeTrainer: open office
[00:43] <Atomic_UE> jrib, there's no real performance benefit with 64 over 32 ?
[00:43]  * PassionFRUI7E is now completely problem free!
[00:43] <nekostar> also you may need to remove xdm and replace with gdm or kdm respectively ok?
[00:43] <jrib> Atomic_UE: not that you'll notice, no
[00:44] <tux> EeveeTrainer, www.openoffice.org far superior
[00:44] <PassionFRUI7E> Well, my computer at least =P
[00:44] <Atomic_UE> jrib, ok cool. thanks jrib and nekostar
[00:44] <Baatti> someone please help me
[00:44] <nekostar> Atomic_UE
[00:44] <russianzilla> Is it possible for an install to be stuck halfway between Hardy and Intrepid?
[00:44] <scientes> IMHO u should install 64-bit if you have 64bt hardware
[00:44] <Baatti> I can't install ubuntu, it's taking me to a Debian shell prompt
[00:44] <nekostar> there is better codec support with 32 bit - might wanna still run it :P
[00:44] <Rogue> Asside from the obvious, is there much difference between Windows's VPN client, and pptpclient ?
[00:44] <jimminy_cricket>  jrib: still a blank screen
[00:44] <nekostar> Baatti does it say something like initrd tools?
[00:44] <nekostar> or busybox?
[00:45] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: you rebooted or?
[00:45] <redvamp128> could the person who is trying to install please pm me
[00:45] <Bynw> I've upgraded to 8.10 and now I'm getting an error connecting my digital camera. unable to mount (gives name of camera) error initializing camera: -1 unspecified error
[00:45] <Necrogami> Is build-essential not included in Intrepid now?
[00:45] <grykgru> i keep experiencing difficulty when i disable my bluetooth adaptor: http://rafb.net/p/YBVZM796.html
[00:45] <nekostar> b/c those are usually bad burns
[00:45] <jimminy_cricket> i restarted gdm
[00:45] <jimminy_cricket> trying a reboot now
[00:45] <evilGUI> russianzilla: I have that right now try opening a command line and typing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:45] <jrib> Necrogami: it never was...
[00:45] <Kohlrak> what's the default CVS directory?
[00:45] <Baatti> nekostar um...the prompt says init...something
[00:45] <evilGUI> it has a lot of stuff to install
[00:45] <nekostar> when you go into an installer first you should be using an alternate disk at first sign of trouble
[00:45] <Appl3Kork> hey I need help with this step I copied from a tutorial for the ubuntu server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64916/
[00:45] <redvamp128> at that prompt type the following -- whoami
[00:45] <evilGUI> hope this fixes it for me
[00:45] <Baatti> nekostar it tells me I can type help for commands, but there are no commands that work
[00:45] <russianzilla> I'll give it a shot.
[00:45] <Necrogami> gah
[00:46] <nekostar> and when your on top of hte install link push f6 and input awesome things like: acpi=off noacpi
[00:46] <sabi1> hey does anyone know where i can get drivers for Nvidia 8800GT
[00:46] <sabi1> for ubuntu 8.10
[00:46] <Necrogami> build-essential was in 8.04
[00:46] <nekostar> Baatti no you need a disk to install from
[00:46] <jimminy_cricket> the nvidia site....
[00:46] <nekostar> Baatti failed install
[00:46] <evilGUI> Yeah this is the most screwy ubuntu release i've ever seen
[00:46] <sabi1> u sure?
[00:46] <jrib> nekostar: it was not installed by default in any version of ubuntu
[00:46] <sabi1> on 8.04 they never had anything
[00:46] <nekostar> jrib ?
[00:46] <nekostar> what wasnt
[00:46] <Baatti> nekostar I'm using a ubuntu 8.04 live cd
[00:46] <Gorthax> saib, you can get them on the nvidia website i believe
[00:46] <jrib> Necrogami: it was not installed by default in any version of ubuntu
[00:46] <Appl3Kork> it says to input your IP settings, but I don't know what the netmask, broadcast, network, and gateway would be?
[00:46] <Anza> what is that I have to type in the terminal to install this: firefox-3.0.3.tar.bz2
[00:46] <cabrioleur> sabi1, system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[00:46] <jrib> nekostar: tab error, sorry
[00:46] <Kohlrak> anyone know the directory for files hosted by a CVS server?
[00:46] <nekostar> Baatti what hardware are you running
[00:46] <nekostar> jrib kk
[00:46] <cabrioleur> sabi1, or nvidia website
[00:46] <runemaste644> evilGUI: I have the same problem, except it's still hanging on cleaning up, can you help me?
[00:46] <redvamp128> and you said it drops you to prompt....
[00:46] <tux> i booted inbex off my usb key, its quite solid i find
[00:47] <Baatti> nekostar um...a crappy old 20gig compaq
[00:47] <n8tuser> Anza-> did you read the install instructions from the web site?
[00:47] <tux> installed in 13 mins ;)
[00:47] <Rogue> Ibex is running fine for me thankfully.
[00:47] <nekostar> Baatti yeah get the alternate install disk and use that
[00:47] <Necrogami> jrib, not true. You could apt-get it on 8.04 but it's not even availabe in the repo for 8.10
[00:47] <Rogue> But I am still stuck with a problem I just dont understand.
[00:47] <jrib> !info build-essential | Necrogami
[00:47] <Baatti> nekostar where at?
[00:47] <nekostar> you may have problems with some of the hardware in the installer so it doesnt load all the way or who knows what
[00:47] <Broken|Arrow> guys, is it safe to run ubuntu-xen-desktop along with network-manager ?
[00:47] <nekostar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/  <<-- Baatti
[00:47] <Draist> I am in need of some help, experiencing major slowdown, gkrellm says i have 200+ procs running but I havnt been able to  find out how to shut them down
[00:47] <Broken|Arrow> I am using hardy
[00:47] <cription> t
[00:47] <Baatti> thanks
[00:48] <evilGUI> runemaste644: I would recommend backing up right now if possible mine stayed going for 6 hours so I just powered off the machine "this isn't a good idea"
[00:48] <helder> damn i was downloading something via terminal, i closed it, now its downloading but i cant see it anymore. how do i recover the windows?
[00:48] <cabrioleur> Broken|Arrow, yes.
[00:48] <Necrogami> let me get done what i'm doing now and i'll prove it to ya
[00:48] <nekostar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso <<-- Baatti
[00:48] <Broken|Arrow> cabrioleur: thanks
[00:48] <sabi1> yeah hardware drivers doesn't update it just says activate and it doesn't activate...
[00:48] <Anza> n8tuser, there are not instructions, I am trying to install it from a site hotmail liked me, everytime I get to my hotmail account it says the browser is not updated, so puts that link from where I dled that file to update firefox
[00:48] <jrib> Necrogami: ok...
[00:48] <n8tuser> Broken|Arrow-> i dont see the relationship
[00:48] <cabrioleur> sabi1, after the installation of them you have to restart the computer.
[00:48] <Anza> n8tuser, this: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
[00:48] <cabrioleur> sabi1, (or restart gdm)
[00:48] <helder> when you're downloading something via terminal and you close the window how do you get that windows back? with the % info ?
[00:49] <bitsbam> hey all, what the heck happened to xorg.conf
[00:49] <bitsbam> ?
[00:49] <droids> hey guys, if i create a c++ program in vim, how would i run it?
[00:49] <sabi1> yeah but i never installed them
[00:49] <Broken|Arrow> n8tuser: most tutorials say that you should remove network manager to avoid conflict with xen virtual networks
[00:49] <n8tuser> Anza-> tar balls files needs to be un-tarred
[00:49] <cabrioleur> helder, if you used wget or something like it it will save in directory that you were currently in.
[00:49] <Baatti> nekostar now I'm gonna need to find a good .iso mounting software, got a good idea?
[00:49] <Rogue> droids: compile it, then run it from the command line.
[00:49] <Anza> n8tuser, how do I do that?
[00:49] <redvamp128> To the person who is trying to install -- I found a bug report on what seems to be the issue..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/253035
[00:49] <evilGUI> runemaste644: after powering off my machine when I opened the update manager it wouldn't fix it's self by doing a partial upgrade so I just opened term and typed sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop hope this fixes this I have about 2 hours for it to download everything
[00:49] <Atomic_UE> ubuntuforums are down :(
[00:49] <Appl3Kork> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64916/
[00:50] <helder> i was downloading ubuntu-desktop and closed terminal. how can i follow its progress now ?
[00:50] <jrib> droids: you need to compile it first.  Save the file, install build-essential, and run 'g++ file.cc'.  Then run './a.out'
[00:50] <n8tuser> Broken|Arrow-> if it already advised you of that, you are asking for one more confirmation? so yeah go ahead follow the tutorials
[00:50] <cabrioleur> sabi1, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" should do the trick.
[00:50] <redvamp128> It actually says to download 8.10-- because it has an updated kernel
[00:50] <nekostar> Baatti eh?
[00:50] <jimminy_cricket> ok this is not working at all
[00:50] <evilGUI> You don't close terminal
[00:50] <nekostar> Baatti you need to burn for free from windows?
[00:50] <Atomic_UE> helder, what did you use to download it?
[00:50] <runemaste644> evilGUI: Nvm it FINALLY finished
[00:50] <jimminy_cricket> i need to reinstall x and gdm
[00:50] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know how?
[00:50] <helder> apt-get Atomic_UE
[00:50] <wers> what's the code name of the advance compiz settings?
[00:50] <Taku1> hey guys :)
[00:50] <n8tuser> Anza-> man tar,  but you have bz2, i think the option is  tar -xvjf xxx.bz2
[00:51] <ubuntu> hello
[00:51] <ubuntu> Sorry
[00:51] <Atomic_UE> helder, yeah it's probably not downloading anymore ?
[00:51] <ubuntu> I'll change my name
[00:51] <Broken|Arrow> n8tuser: thing is most of these tutorials use 7.04 with xen-server , not desktop
[00:51] <nekostar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto there u go Baatti
[00:51] <Taku1> lol
[00:51]  * nekostar goes off
[00:51] <Baatti> nekostar: I don't have software to mount an iso image....I need a reference to something I can d/l to mount this .iso onto a disk
[00:51] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: that's not going to fix anything, did you answer my question?
[00:51] <evilGUI> runemaste644: grate glad it's working for you
[00:51] <sabi1> it wont let me install the nvidia drivers from nvidia's site while im in X serv..
[00:51] <MTecknology> Baatti: Linux can mount an iso as a cd
[00:51] <sabi1> thats stupid
[00:51] <helder> it was like 10% still downloading because synaptic says something is opened Atomic_UE
[00:51] <tarelerulz> I want to have different partion with home  and have Ubuntu 8.10 too.  What would I need to do ?
[00:51] <Baatti> I'm not running linux
[00:51] <nekostar> Baatti you can do on the system your typing from?
[00:51] <Baatti> I'm running windows
[00:51] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: which question?
[00:51] <nekostar> exactly
[00:51] <indra> good morning i have atheros wireless card i don't have ath0 interface
[00:51] <nekostar> follow that burningisohowto
[00:51] <n8tuser> Broken|Arrow-> then most likely its too new to get a new tutorial, so try it and let us know how it went
[00:51] <nekostar> burn to blank cdrom and good to go
[00:51] <leachim_> what
[00:51] <RickZilla> Upgrading to Intrepid, everybody wish me luck.
[00:51] <runemaste644> evilGUI: scratch that, it wants to delete EVERY package on my system
[00:51] <cabrioleur> Baatti, do you have winrar?
[00:52] <Broken|Arrow> n8tuser: ok :)
[00:52] <Atomic_UE> helder, well you could wait and see if it ever finishes then?
[00:52] <indra> i was compile ath5 driver and load ath_pci
[00:52] <Rogue> My system went from Hardy to Intrepid with no problems at all.
[00:52] <evilGUI> runemaste644: WoW that really sucks
[00:52] <indra> but doesn't work
[00:52] <Rogue> So its not all broken.
[00:52] <Baatti> nekostar thanks, but all I needed was the name InfraRecorder
[00:52] <helder> lol Atomic_UE  :) that's the only way..
[00:52] <Baatti> :P
[00:52] <tacosarecool> hello
[00:52] <tarelerulz>  RickZilla ,  Ubuntu 8.10 looks pretty cool .  Good luck and i hope it all works
[00:52] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: what did you do after you commented the line in xorg.conf to test X?
[00:52] <tacosarecool> Can you help me?
[00:52] <n8tuser> Rogue-> you are one of the lucky few
[00:52] <tacosarecool> It's weird
[00:52] <leachim_> say "hey ho"
[00:52] <Rogue> n8tuser: I noticed
[00:52] <tacosarecool> When I booted from the cd
[00:52] <indra> can'somebody help me
[00:52] <Bynw> I've upgraded to 8.10 and now I'm getting an error connecting my digital camera. unable to mount (gives name of camera) error initializing camera: -1 unspecified error
[00:53] <tacosarecool> Before the thing booted I saw a glitchy screen
[00:53] <runemaste644> evilGUI: but its gonna download replacements for all the necessities?
[00:53] <Necrogami> jrib, http://paste2.org/p/94690 <--- That's what happens when i try and apt-get build-essential
[00:53] <Rogue> But I run Ubuntu Server Edition... minimal install. That's probably why.
[00:53] <xibor> siemano ludziska
[00:53] <Atomic_UE> helder, well you can check if it's still running....System > Administration > System Monitor
[00:53] <jimminy_cricket> i restarted gdm and then rebooted
[00:53] <jimminy_cricket> neither worked
[00:53] <kilowhisky> is ubuntu archive server down?
[00:53] <up365> "This computer is using nvidia driver but no version of this driver is available that works with your card(GeForce3)in Ubuntu 8.10" anyone continue and with what results?
[00:53] <enkidu> aa
[00:53] <evilGUI> runemaste644: don't know didn't make it that far
[00:53] <fevel> hi
[00:53] <jrib> Necrogami: run 'sudo apt-get update'.  Then try again.  If it still fails, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:53] <Necrogami> kilowhisky, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ works
[00:53] <EeveeTrainer> hi, why is hardy heron supported until 2011 but intrepid ibex is only supported until 2010?
[00:53] <Atomic_UE> helder, go to Processes tab. Then View menu > All Processes
[00:53] <mercutio22> my laptop media keys are not working in rhythmbox in ibex... thats a regression...
[00:54] <Atomic_UE> helder, and look for apt-get or something like that ?
[00:54] <wers> synaptic doesnt show all available software from the official repos. i'm on a fresh ibex. any idea why?
[00:54] <tigerz> hi guys
[00:54] <cabrioleur> Bynw, can you pastebin dmesg | tail for it?
[00:54] <xibor> I have a some problem with ALSA...
[00:54] <n8tuser> EeveeTrainer-> LTS server support is 5 years
[00:54] <hacknperl> i cannot see my hard drive in the partition editor from the new 8.10 live CD.....
[00:54] <fevel> im having a problem trying to install 8.10. Id doesnt find any harddrive to set up the partitions, but if I remove the cd it boots into windows normally
[00:54] <tigerz> after I upgrade my ubuntu from 8.04.1 to 8.10
[00:54] <Bynw> sure i can cabrioleur ... hang on
[00:54] <tigerz> I cann't start my X now
[00:54] <tacosarecool> help
[00:54] <runemaste644> evilGUI: Its gonna delete the linux kernel, so its probably gonna replace the stuff
[00:54] <n8tuser> wers far too new, so it has not been updated, wait in a couple of days perhaps?
[00:54] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: i did
[00:54] <cabrioleur> tigerz, any errors?
[00:54] <jimminy_cricket> what can i do other than reinstall?
[00:54] <fevel> can anyone help me?
[00:55] <xine222> anyone know the command sequence to mount a NTFS partition in ro (I have my WinXP hibernated atm)
[00:55] <helder> Atomic_UE,  done and terminated it. tx
[00:55] <wers> n8tuser: i cant even see xchat
[00:55] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: you did what......?
[00:55] <Rob22221> hello all
[00:55] <tigerz> cabrioleur, Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
[00:55] <hacknperl> fevel
[00:55] <kilowhisky> Necrogami: very strange.. its not connecting
[00:55] <hacknperl> im having same problem
[00:55] <runemaste644> evilGUI: As long as grub still works ill be OK
[00:55] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: i said, i restarted gdm and then i rebooted
[00:55] <wers> n8tuser: or gnome-do but i can install em using sudo apt-get
[00:55] <hacknperl> if you find out anything msg me
[00:55] <jimminy_cricket> neither worked
[00:55] <n8tuser> wers are you chatting off your 8.10 now?
[00:55] <obf213> hmmm. im trying to get that new ubuntu, but transmission starts gets me so good dl speed then just goes idle? wtf?
[00:55] <fevel> hacknperl: yes?
[00:55] <wers> n8tuser: yep
[00:55] <EeveeTrainer> hi, where can i find the differences between ubuntu in gnome and ubuntu in kde
[00:55] <Bynw> cabrioleur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64919/
[00:55] <helder> how can i change update mirrors to the ones of my cuntry ?
[00:55] <ORdie> does www.speedtest.net cause anyone else's firefox to crash after upping to intrepid?????
[00:55] <phpstar> i cant upgrade to 8.10 :(
[00:56] <sabi1> anybody else have a 8800gt that can get the Extra desktop effects to work?
[00:56] <sabi1> cause i cant
[00:56] <helder> how can i change update mirrors to the ones of my cuntry ? Atomic_UE
[00:56] <obf213> EeveeTrainer, www.ubuntu.com www.kubuntu.com
[00:56] <Rob22221> Can anyone tell me why the VPN connection in my upgraded to 8.10 is greyed out????
[00:56] <evilGUI> EeveeTrainer: check wikipedia
[00:56] <hacknperl> if you find out any info on that problem ms me.... im having the same problem... no HD in the partition editor
[00:56] <runemaste644> well theres a keep button
[00:56] <n8tuser> wers-> try sudo apt-cache search xchat
[00:56] <runemaste644> I click it
[00:56] <tigerz> cabrioleur, i don't know why, but the I keep getting "Counld not init from path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/xxxxx, removing from list!
[00:56] <tigerz> "
[00:56] <Rogue> Is Windows just fundamentally awkward... or is it just me. After tearing my hair out trying to get PPTP to go through my Linux Firewall... it works with pptpclient on my laptop... but Windows VPN still fails.
[00:56] <yowshi> awww no upgrade option yet eh?
[00:56] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: you need to address me if you want me to read what you say.  I don't read non-highlighted lines.  What card do you have?  Does a live cd load X?
[00:56] <xine222> speedtest.net worked for me (I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04
[00:56] <csilk> yowshi, ?
[00:56] <wers> n8tuser: i have no problem with that. i'm wondering why uninstalled apps wont show up on synaptic
[00:57] <hacknperl> anyone know where to start with getting 8.10 to see my hard disk???
[00:57] <yowshi> the update manager upgrade function
[00:57] <tigerz> cabrioleur, any suggestion?
[00:57] <Bynw> its not you Rogue
[00:57] <Rogue> Windows says it cant find the damn server... and the firewall shows no connection attempts for GRE... but it works fine with the laptop and pptpclient >>
[00:57] <csilk> hackel, sata?
[00:57] <yowshi> csilk:
[00:57] <ORdie> xine222: thx for checking
[00:57] <hacknperl> yes
[00:57] <hacknperl> SATA
[00:57] <xine222> yw
[00:57] <otai_g[c]> hello allz
[00:57] <otai_g[c]> i need help
[00:57] <n8tuser> wers uninstalled? are they even listed as potentially to be installed?
[00:57] <sabi1> hacknperl is it showing in the BIOS?
[00:57] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: i haven't tried a live cd yet because i need to get a usb stick for it.  the graphics is just onboard stuff, really old
[00:57] <evilGUI> hacknperl: it's a problem with a chipset driver
[00:57] <hacknperl> yes it is in BIOS
[00:57] <cabrioleur> tigerz, yes, it should be fairly easy, I'm checking the path
[00:57] <sabi1> hmm..
[00:57] <Rogue> Anyone know how to get Windows to stop messing around and just work.
[00:57] <csilk> yowshi, sorry I though you were saying there was no update option from hardy to intrepid, of course it was hard to tell what you meant when you said so little
[00:57] <aflack> guys need alot of help
[00:57] <wers> n8tuser: they're not even listed
[00:57] <csilk> hackel, asus
[00:57] <csilk> ?
[00:58] <Rogue> Or if its a Ubuntu issue....
[00:58] <aflack> my upgrader cant find a lot of pool files and i really need to get on windows
[00:58] <otai_g[c]> where i can found my network card driver?
[00:58] <sabi1> hacknperl: try LiveCD and see if you can see it there
[00:58] <n8tuser> wers far too new i say, wait in  few days or so..
[00:58] <wers> n8tuser: uninstalled apps dont appear at all, even the ones that should obviously be on the official repos
[00:58] <tab1293> hey, i have a music folder that I usually access from windows. I want to link it to my Ubuntu system. The album art is in windows media player format though. Will the art be messed up on ubuntu?
[00:58] <yowshi> csilk: yeah i know i can download the cd. but i dont see the option in the update manager yet to upgrade to intrepid. dont really wanna lose half my programmes to a fresh install
[00:58] <sebsebseb> aflack:
[00:58] <hacknperl> Rogue.... delete c:\windows :)  just kidding
[00:58] <evilGUI> tab1293: shouldn't
[00:58] <n8tuser> wers-> try sudo apt-cache search xchat  <-- what does this shows you?
[00:58] <aflack> what lol
[00:58] <tigerz> cabrioleur, super! I've tried reinstalling xfonts-base xfs, xfs-utls, but it doesn't work.
[00:58] <yowshi> csilk: not to mention everything on my desktop
[00:58] <hacknperl> im in the livecd now
[00:58] <Necrogami> jrib: that worked
[00:58] <hacknperl> i cant see it here
[00:58] <csilk> yowshi,  i think you have to fully update hardy before the option appears
[00:58] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: seems to be sis, so I would check bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs on that driver if you the live cd won't load X either
[00:58] <sebsebseb> aflack: what's the problem exactly?
[00:58] <yowshi> csilk: did that
[00:58] <sabi1> hacknperl: oh ..hmm.....
[00:58] <tab1293> evilGUI: ok I'm going to try it
[00:59] <Rogue> hacknperl: I'd love to... but its my dad's work laptop that refuses to connect through my linux gateway.. its the only reason that Im stuck using a crap wireless router thing.
[00:59] <csilk> yowshi, susod apt-get update there may be more updates
[00:59] <csilk> *sud
[00:59] <csilk> o
[00:59] <jimminy_cricket> jrib: and if the live cd does work (which i expect i to) what are my options...
[00:59] <sabi1> hacknperl: sry i always say this but if i was in front of it i feel like i could solve it
[00:59] <aflack> sebsebseb: it cancels upgrading and says cant fetch a lot of files that have a file called pool in the name
[00:59] <cabrioleur> tigerz, can you pastebin xorg.conf, or is it not possible?
[00:59] <wers> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64921/
[00:59] <aflack> and it says all downloaded files so far have been saved
[00:59] <Necrogami> jrib: thanks it's been a while since i've been on ubuntu. had the RC instead of the Final so i'm in the process of upgrading to final
[00:59] <hacknperl> heh.... i hear you there sabi
[00:59] <Rogue> My mac at least gives me the wrong username/pass prompt... Windows tells me it cant find the VPN server.
[00:59] <hacknperl> thanks though
[00:59] <phpstar> http://ubuntuforums.org/    not working ???
[00:59] <sebsebseb> aflack:   is enough stuff installed so that you can finnish the update in Intrepid Ibex?
[00:59] <jrib> jimminy_cricket: compare /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf on your install and the live cd
[00:59] <hacknperl> want to vnc me???
[00:59] <Sjaki> How much longer will the ubuntu forums be down?
[01:00] <tigerz> cabrioleur, you mean paste my xorg.conf here?
[01:00] <n8tuser> Rogue-> find out which service ports windows vpn client uses, both for outgoing and incoming
[01:00] <aflack> sebsebseb: i dunno itr was on the getting new packages part so i dont think so
[01:00] <cabrioleur> tigerz, in a pastebin.
[01:00] <helder> what's the command to intall ubuntu in xubuntu again please? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? cuz apt-get can find it :S
[01:00] <Rogue> TCP 1723, and Protocol 47
[01:00] <sebsebseb> aflack:  have you re booted and tried to log in ?
[01:00] <Sabi1> does anyone know why i cant activate my graphic drivers?
[01:00] <aflack> err why?
[01:00] <yowshi> csilk: well there hae been 3 updates for the last 2 months i cant actually accept because the option to select them isnt there. the box is greyed out
[01:00] <Rogue> It works on my laptop.. which uses pptp client. It refuses to work on my Windows PC.
[01:00] <csilk> Sjaki, sorry we ran out of magic balls that allow us to see into the future yesterday
[01:00] <n8tuser> wers so it is there, do the same for the ones you are looking for
[01:00] <Blaenk> hey guys a friend burned the CD ISO image to a DVDR (I have no idea how he did that), will it still boot?
[01:00] <tucuna> how do you set the path prefix to be able to compile an app w/ glib1.2 ?
[01:00] <Sergio> hhello
[01:00] <wers> n8tuser: for some weird reason, it's workingnow. hahahaha
[01:00] <Sabi1> i get correct resolution but i cant see both monitors, or use extra effects
[01:00] <aflack> sebsebseb: why would i do that
[01:00] <Rogue> But, if I go back to using my Linux-based cheap wireless router... it bloody works, no problems.
[01:00] <otai_g[c]> where i can found my network card driver?
[01:00] <evilGUI> helder: you are typing this into the command line?
[01:00] <csilk> yowshi, that's pretty strange and it could also be the problem
[01:00] <helder> yes
[01:01] <n8tuser> wers its okay to admit operator error
[01:01] <sebsebseb> aflack:   run the command or whatever to start the update procedure again
[01:01] <fevel> how can I make ubuntu detect my sata HD?
[01:01] <tab1293> is it just me or are the ubuntu repos running really slow?
[01:01] <Sergio> algien habla español
[01:01] <aflack> i r
[01:01] <evilGUI> helder: that's odd
[01:01] <aghori> could anyone tell me howto findout what version of madwifi I'm using??
[01:01] <n8tuser> !en | Sergio
[01:01] <wers> n8tuser: what's operator error?
[01:01] <csilk> fevel, one sec, i have an idea taht might fix/workaround your problem
[01:01] <yowshi> csilk: i just presumed they were for the non 64bit version and since mine is 64bit i can accept em
[01:01] <Sjaki> csilk - thanks for the sarcasm, heavily appreciated. apparently you've never heard of an ETA
[01:01] <aflack> sebsebseb: its preparing to upgrade now after i restarte dthe updater
[01:01] <helder> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop can't find the package
[01:01] <fevel> csilk: ok
[01:01] <Sergio> spanish please
[01:01] <cabrioleur> tab1293, this is the first day of ubuntu 8.10. Servers are abused today.
[01:01] <wers> n8tuser: maybe, what fixed it was to update package list
[01:02] <csilk> Sjaki,  an ETA on an outage where we have no idea what the problem is..... yes, I'll check the crystal ball, oh wait, see my previous message
[01:02] <n8tuser> wers if you have not done update, then yeah
[01:02] <tab1293> cabrioleur: thats what I thought. I was just making sure it wasn't like a problem with my network card driver or something
[01:02] <pedrinjr_> hi
[01:02] <helder> found it. had to change reporsitory
[01:02] <Sjaki> csilk then say you don't know what the problem is, don't be an asshole
[01:02] <tigerz> cabrioleur, can you give me a reference about howto pastebin? I've used it before.
[01:02] <evilGUI> ah
[01:02] <pedrinjr_> good evening
[01:02] <Wicked> hmm during the install using the alternative cd it asked if i wanted to set up a private folder...i said i did and it asked for password....where is this folder located?
[01:02] <Sjaki> csilk the correct response is: we don't have an ETA
[01:02] <trevor> i need some help with the new ubuntu
[01:02] <Wicked> from what i read it should be ~/Private
[01:02] <wers> i did if for a few times already but it worked after a while. oh well. haha
[01:02] <sebsebseb> tigerz:  pastebin.ca
[01:02] <tab1293> cabrioleur: but I am really like getting no functionality, it cant even connect lol
[01:02] <Wicked> but there is no ~/Private
[01:02] <aflack> sebsebse: setting new software channels
[01:02] <tigerz> OK
[01:03] <helder> is there a windows 7 new tab system theme for ubuntu allready ? :D
[01:03] <trevor> i had ubuntu studio...and then downloaded the 8.10.  how do i know if it took?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> aflack: ok good it needs to do that yeah
[01:03] <csilk> fevel, have you installed yey or are you stuck there with no hdd detection
[01:03] <csilk> ?
[01:03] <fevel> im stuck no hd detection
[01:03] <Guest42843> anyone run ubuntu off the corsair flash voyager USB stick, I am looking to run ubuntu within windows persistent
[01:03] <aflack> sebsebseb: lol i know :P
[01:03] <csilk> fevel, ok append this to the kernel parameters    pci=nomsi
[01:04] <helder> is there a way to check hotmail mail in pop clients? in windows i can use windows live mail. is there any alternative to ubuntu ?
[01:04] <tigerz> cabrioleur, I have to type in my xorg.conf manually. wait a minute.
[01:04] <fevel> csilk: thats all?
[01:04] <yowshi> csilk: great the forums are down so i cant find my answer there
[01:04] <n8tuser> Guest42843-> persistent? install it on your hard disk
[01:04] <fevel> ill have to restart
[01:04] <csilk> fevel,  that should work around your problem
[01:04] <kneeki> Has anyone else come across the (initramfs) prompt while attempting to boot off the v8.10 CD? I'm having troubles getting past that point
[01:04] <EeveeTrainer> !hi | trevor
[01:04] <dekkong_> Hello guys! my friend wants to create an access point on his computer.currenly he is using a cable to his router and he wants to share the connection with his wlan card how can he do this?
[01:04] <trevor> hey guys...thanks
[01:05] <Guest42843> I do not want to put it on my hard disk I only have 1 and its a laptop and I do not want to take any risk of something going wrong Vista64 and I may want to use it on other computers
[01:05] <n8tuser> keenmaybe your burn is not good, verify it
[01:05] <genii> !ics
[01:05] <CaptainShanks> So I'm having the most random issue... Whenever I eject my DVD-RW drive, it automatically reinserts itself. It tends to only do this once in awhile and abruptly stop, but its maddening.
[01:05] <trevor> i just want to make sure i installed the new 8.10 update ok.  i had ubuntu studio 8.04
[01:05] <genii> dekkong_: Apologies, the !ics factoid of the bot was intended for you
[01:06] <trevor> when i go to check what version it says ubuntu-the-released-in
[01:06] <dekkong_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharin
[01:06] <yowshi> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:06] <yowshi> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:06] <yowshi> LOL that was the rror message after running apt-get update
[01:06] <dekkong_> oops sry for that
[01:06] <helder> ok intaled ubuntu-desktop i can i completely remove xubuntu now guys ? a clean remove ?
[01:06] <aflack> sebsebseb: still software channel...
[01:06] <jtisme> kneeki, what initramfs problem are you experiencing
[01:06] <jeaves> hey all. I'm hoping someone can point me to some documentation on how to mount drives between two ubuntu computers.
[01:06] <sebsebseb> helder:   yes of course
[01:06] <ConstantineXVI> xchat-gnome, vanilla xchat, or something else?
[01:06] <helder> how ?
[01:06] <Bynw> cabrioleur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/64919/ (camera not mounting issue)
[01:06] <sebsebseb> helder:  try this:   sudo purge xubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <csilk> yowshi, you could always check packages.ubuntu.com and get the updates in .deb format
[01:07] <ericjung> where are instuctions to upgrade hardy heron to ibix?
[01:07] <tigerz> cabrioleur, http://pastebin.ca/1241194
[01:07] <csilk> yowshi, potentially unsafe though
[01:07] <EeveeTrainer> hi, im not sure if anyone can help me with this, but i have an internal hard drive with windows xp installed and the operating system is corrupt. the data on the hard drive is still readable, though.. i was wondering if it was possible to use a usb install of ubuntu to access the ntfs file system on the internal hard drive?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !upgrade
[01:07] <helder> purge command not found
[01:07] <Appl3Kork> how do I edit a info with vi?
[01:07] <helder> sebsebseb,  purge command not found
[01:07] <kneeki> jtisme: No idea. When I attempt to boot off the 8.10 CD it eventually takes me to an (initramfs) prompt, and sits there. If I do 'exit' it will spit out a kernel panic
[01:07] <yowshi> csilk: well how unsafe could it be i am soon to perform the semi annual upgrade
[01:07] <Appl3Kork> like I get into the text, but I can't delete or type anything
[01:07] <n8tuser> EeveeTrainer-> or the liveCD ..its possible
[01:07] <jeaves> Eeve - liveCD should do that as well
[01:07] <hacknperl> Ubuntu 8.10 does not support SATA drives i guess...
[01:08] <yowshi> csilk: wouldnt that like erase any potential for damage
[01:08] <sebsebseb> helder: uh right yeah my bad.    sudo aptitude purge xubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <yowshi> hacknperl: no 8.1 supports sata
[01:08] <n8tuser> kneeki->  maybe your burn is not good, verify it
[01:08] <jtisme> kneeki, i just downloaded the latest live cd let me see if i have any problems at boot
[01:08] <csilk> yowshi, if the updates are 32bit and screw some of yoru libs up, unlikely but possible
[01:08] <csilk> *your
[01:08] <ericjung> hacknperl:  it doesn't??? 8.04 does.
[01:08] <yowshi> hacknperl: there is no possible way it couldnt
[01:08] <kneeki> n8tuser: Good idea, will do that now
[01:08] <ConstantineXVI> EeveeTrainer: yeah, that should work
[01:08] <sebsebseb> helder: actsaully I just thought of something
[01:08] <hacknperl> I tried it on three computers now and non of them are detecting the SATA drives...
[01:08] <EeveeTrainer> how would i mount the internal hard drive on a usb ubuntu?
[01:08] <csilk> yowshi,  if they are kernel updates dont bother, if they are things like evolution updates then go for it
[01:08] <ninjabuntu> Did 8.10 just get released today?
[01:08] <twisted`> ey, is there a special channel for 8.10?
[01:08] <sebsebseb> helder: that might just rmove the meta package and not the whole of xubuntu and so
[01:08] <helder> sebsebseb,  done, now what should i do? restart X ?
[01:08] <yowshi> csilk: they are updates for like k3b
[01:09] <twisted`> I just grabbed it, try to install it but the damn thing won't even boot
[01:09] <sebsebseb> !puregnome | helder
[01:09] <Slart> twisted`: I guess this one.. since 8.10 if the current version now
[01:09] <matheus> plz help !!! my ubuntu 8.10 error GConf !!!
[01:09] <helder> tx
[01:09] <Atomic_UE> helder, sorry was away for a bit. you still need help to change mirrors?
[01:09] <EeveeTrainer> !br | matheus
[01:09] <aflack> sebsebseb: getting new packages
[01:09] <jtisme> kneeki, before you burned the iso file did you check the MD5 sums?
[01:09] <yowshi> csilk: k3b gcu-bin and libgcu0
[01:09] <russianzilla> Alright, so my failed Intrepid upgrade is almost done.
[01:09] <helder> i dont have kde
[01:09] <twisted`> squashfs goes crazy on it
[01:09] <neil_d> since the last kernel update I have been getting a error message whenever gnome starts :(  "Error activating XKB configuration."  Is there a fix to this ?
[01:09] <kneeki> jtisme: No =\
[01:09] <helder> i have xubuntu xdfe
[01:09] <camero1> help, i ran the update but it hang at "cleanup." after 3 hours i restarted anyway, and now when i try to run upgrade again it says: "An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool."
[01:09] <russianzilla> I seem to have the new intrepid features such as tabbed Nautilus
[01:09] <twisted`> is it neccesary the graphical installer?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> helder: yes, but I think it mentions xubuntu on there to
[01:09] <weirdbro> Does the system monitor have any way to prevent it from being slightly transparent?
[01:09] <helder> Atomic_UE,  got it :) tx
[01:09] <kneeki> jtisme: I'll just download it again =)
[01:09] <jeaves> Can anyone tell me how to mount drives between two ubuntu computers?
[01:09] <russianzilla> But I can't use the restricted driver for my Nvidia card, so I can't use desktop effects
[01:10] <csilk> yowshi, hmmm, I'm not sure what relevence they have to anything, I guess youc an try and if it goes wrong you ca always apt-get purge them
[01:10] <csilk> *can
[01:10] <helder> right tx sebsebseb
[01:10] <cabrioleur> tigerz, make a backup of your file and add "Files" section like suggested in xorg wiki: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-a570197d15005a2c71cbb5e565114e2c04a573a3 (the debian solution)
[01:10] <sebsebseb> !mount
[01:10] <jeaves> I can't get the mount lines correct, apparently.
[01:10] <dthacker> !nfs | jeaves
[01:10] <hacknperl> Has anyone succesulloy installed 8.10 on a SATA drive?
[01:10] <jeaves> !nfs
[01:10] <jeaves> ?
[01:10] <csilk> hacknperl,
[01:10] <reaper5oh> ubuntu SUCKS
[01:10] <reaper5oh> FEDORA RULES
[01:10] <camero1> anyone?
[01:10] <FloodBot3> reaper5oh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:10] <helder> then what? restart x? or reboot ?
[01:10] <reaper5oh> LULZ
[01:10] <dr_willis> hacknperl,  yes. lots of us have i imagine
[01:10] <russianzilla> Is there any way to just reinstall the Ubuntu system files without reformatting and doing a clean install?
[01:10] <reaper5oh> LULZ
[01:10] <cabrioleur> Bynw, the devices should be working. Did you try to manually mount it with gnome-mount?
[01:10] <sabi2> ok i restarted
[01:10] <tigerz> cabrioleur, OK. Let me have try on it.
[01:10] <Atomic_UE> hacknperl, i can probably tell you that tomorrow, 'cos that's what I'll be doing
[01:10] <Poldie> is ubuntuforums down?
[01:10] <sabi2> but still cant get those nvidia drivers
[01:10] <sebsebseb> reaper5oh sucks
[01:10] <snowveil> good evening all
[01:10] <Slart> sebsebseb: don't feed it
[01:10] <Bynw> cabrioleur, no ... how do i do that?
[01:11] <reaper5oh> :)
[01:11] <helder> remving sebsebseb  :) now what? restart x? or reboot
[01:11] <reaper5oh> bam
[01:11] <dr_willis> 'people who say things suck, suck!'
[01:11] <sabi2> it just says activating 0% then closes
[01:11] <Poldie> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[01:11] <evilGUI> reaper5oh: Yes fedora is a good os
[01:11] <reaper5oh> gg nubs
[01:11] <reaper5oh> or qq
[01:11] <jeaves> oh, I see... thanks ﻿dthacker
[01:11] <aflack> sebsebseb:  fetching file 523 out of 1334 ... download stops frequentlu
[01:11] <Poldie> does this link http://ubuntuforums.org/ work for you?
[01:11] <aflack> 3 hours remain
[01:11] <jtisme> kneeki, no just do the md5 check first
[01:11] <Appl3Kork> can someone please help me here!!!
[01:11] <EeveeTrainer> how would i mount the internal hard drive from a usb ubuntu?
[01:11] <dthacker> jeaves: np!  enjoy.
[01:11] <aflack> now 10 lol
[01:11] <cabrioleur> Bynw, assuming that the device is sdb1, you can type "gnome-mount -d /dev/sdb1"
[01:11] <snowveil> I'm having a issue getting a game to recognize a joypad, any help?
[01:11] <twisted`> the text-installer is it included on the normal cd-rom? or do I have to grab the special one for it
[01:11] <reaper5oh> sorry had to add flood bot to my ignore list
[01:11] <camero1> ﻿help, i ran the update but it hang at "cleanup." after 3 hours i restarted anyway, and now when i try to run upgrade again it says: "An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool."
[01:11] <sebsebseb> aflack:   yeah ok seems to be working so far
[01:11] <runemaste644> I tried to update to Intrepid, but its not a complete install and now i have all the intrepid repos and i need to set them back to hardy
[01:11] <reaper5oh> hate those stupid bots
[01:11] <kneeki> jtisme: Can't. The ISO image is at work. I'm at home now =p
[01:11] <sabi2> someone in here has to have a 8800gt in here
[01:11] <Atomic_UE> woah ubuntu forums is getting worse :\
[01:11] <jtisme> kneeki, OH
[01:11] <Appl3Kork> sabi2: I got 8800gt
[01:11] <snowveil> The device is a Nyko Airflo...but Ubuntu recognizes js0 as my wireless keyboard instead of my joypad
[01:11] <dr_willis> sabi2,  my 8800gtsxxx worked under 8.10
[01:11] <camero1> it wont load forums for me
[01:11] <Appl3Kork> not on my ubuntu machine though...
[01:12] <Terminator> how long do things stay at the pastebin?
[01:12] <Poldie> i just can't get java working on my 64bit  8.10 system
[01:12] <csilk> hacknperl, I have installed intrepid on sata with great succes
[01:12] <csilk> s
[01:12] <bungieQord> I'm trying to write a shell script that will take a login name as an argument and output the home directory of the user, can anyone help a noob out?
[01:12] <Poldie> i've tried so many things
[01:12] <evilGUI> 30days or so
[01:12] <Slart> twisted`: you'll have to get the alternate install cd for a text based install
[01:12] <Appl3Kork> but guys, I can't edit a file with vi?  Like I cant backspace or anything?!!!
[01:12] <sebsebseb> Terminator:  depends on which pastebin you use,  and what setting you provide for your post
[01:12] <weirdbro> Does the system monitor have any way to prevent it from being slightly transparent?
[01:12] <sabi2> Appl3Kork: thanks... lol
[01:12] <jrib> Poldie: did you install the java package?
[01:12] <jtisme> kneeki, the download path is jammed i have 3 level hs dsl and took over 2 hours
[01:12] <twisted`> Slart: it's not some option I can pass it during boot?
[01:12] <yowshi> csilk: i'll see if i cant get furhter help on this tommorow. i would rather not bugger up any nprogrammes i got i kind of like using k3b
[01:12] <Poldie> jrib: several!
[01:12] <twisted`> Slart: bit a waste of media?
[01:12] <Slart> twisted`: not that I know of
[01:12] <kneeki> jtisme: Ack
[01:12] <Appl3Kork> but guys, I can't edit a file with vi?  Like I cant backspace or anything?!!!
[01:12] <Poldie> i tried a script which installs  a 32bit firefox
[01:12] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,  run the 'vimtutor' program and learn the editor a bit...
[01:12] <camero1> anyone know why i cant open software sources?
[01:12] <jrib> Poldie: what do you want to install exactly?  Sun's jre?
[01:12] <kneeki> jtisme: Wonder if I could find a torrent
[01:12] <twisted`> Slart: :( oh well downloading it...
[01:12] <Appl3Kork> how do I run the vimtutor?
[01:12] <Slart> !alternate | twisted`
[01:13] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,  because its a 'modal' editor  :)  if that means anything to you
[01:13] <Poldie> jrib: i want to install anything which lets me use java in a browser
[01:13] <Poldie> jrib: i don't care which browser!
[01:13] <helder> ok i have ubuntu now but login screen gives an error in xubuntu theme and login is still blue :D
[01:13] <kneeki> !torrent ubuntu
[01:13] <snowveil> I am able to use Jscal on the joypad by locating the device at dev/input/by-id/usb-Honey_Bee_AIRFLO-joystick
[01:13] <kneeki> dang
[01:13] <david1> how do I setup a static ip address in 8.10? specifically the net mask.
[01:13] <yowshi> csilk: besides i have to wait till the cd downloads anyway. been having a mysterious issue with grub and i want a boot cd handy
[01:13] <phaidros> any hint why the xen restricted modules do not contain nvidia drivers?
[01:13] <Slart> !torrent
[01:13] <Poldie> jrib: it's partially installed but doesn't work properly.
[01:13] <sabi2> anyone know why hardware drivers won't let me activate the drivers for the NVIDIA card?
[01:13] <helder> ok i have ubuntu now but login screen gives an error in xubuntu theme and login is still blue :D sebsebseb
[01:13] <Appl3Kork> dr_willis, I'm following a tutorial for a ubuntu server, and I'm trying to change from dhcp to static, and they just say to type in vi
[01:13] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,  open terminal, run vimtutor. you may want to install the vim-full package  also if you wish to use vim as your main editor
[01:13] <phaidros> !xen
[01:13] <kneeki> rofl that's the one!
[01:13] <Appl3Kork> and I got the file opened, just can't edit any of it
[01:13] <Bynw> cabrioleur, i still get the same error popping up: "Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error"
[01:13] <SidToner> hello... i have a weird problem... i can install things via apt-get but when i try to find packages or install them with synaptic hardly anything shows up
[01:13] <Slart> david1: I think you can do it in the network manager.. if that doesn't work there's always /etc/networks/interfaces
[01:13] <csilk> yowshi, cool, good look with that
[01:13] <runemaste644> evilGUI: It didn't work, i need my repos set back to the hardy repos
[01:13] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,  use whatever editor you want.. vi is just a text editor.
[01:14] <jrib> Poldie: sun doesn't have a 64bit plugin.  You need to either install an open plugin or install 32bit firefox.  If you are on intrepid, icedtea6-plugin should work
[01:14] <camero1> ﻿help, i ran the update but it hang at "cleanup." after 3 hours i restarted anyway, and now when i try to run upgrade again it says: "An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool."
[01:14] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,  they assume you know how to use it as a text editor. :)
[01:14] <Appl3Kork> o so I can use the command nano or pico?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> helder:  so a little bit of xubuntu left?
[01:14] <helder> yes login screen
[01:14] <Poldie> jrib: tried both the icetea thing and 32 bit firefox. neither work
[01:14] <helder> sebsebseb,  login screen
[01:14] <dr_willis> Appl3Kork,   its JUST a text editor.. i just said.. use whatever editor you want
[01:14] <sebsebseb> helder: did you install from a Xubuntu ISO?
[01:14] <Bynw> cabrioleur, how do i unmount it? i see it in "places"
[01:14] <helder> yes
[01:14] <pr0fane> hi. i have totally installed wine. But when i type wine --version it tells me: wine-1.1.7
[01:14] <Appl3Kork> ok thanks dr_willis
[01:14] <david1> thanks,Slart!
[01:14] <Poldie> jrib: i'm on intredid
[01:14] <helder> sebsebseb,  cd
[01:14] <pr0fane> I need to remove it
[01:14] <Poldie> intrepid
[01:14] <tilde> WOW icewm sucks
[01:14] <twisted`> Slart: yeah, but what I mean is... how 'big' can a text-based installer be that it ain't included on the standard disk :)
[01:15] <jrib> Poldie: "neither work" isn't helpful.  Is icedtea6-plugin currently installed and have you restarted your browser since installing?
[01:15] <sebsebseb> helder: ok try this   sudo aptitude ubuntu-desktop
[01:15] <dr_willis> tilde,  and you have been using it for how long? :)
[01:15] <tilde> i dont like it :(
[01:15] <suzanne>   summer
[01:15] <sebsebseb> helder: or  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:15] <suzanne> hello?
[01:15] <tilde> just wanted to test it with multiple mouse cursors
[01:15] <Poldie> jrib: yes and yes
[01:15] <phaidros> any hint why the xen restricted modules do not contain nvidia drivers?
[01:15] <tilde> omg girl on irc
[01:15] <tilde> suzanne hi
[01:15] <helder> tx sebsebseb  is there any shortcut to open terminal without having to go to applications ?
[01:15] <tigerz> cabrioleur, it doesn't work for me. error: Cound not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, removing from list! (and cyrillic)
[01:15] <Slart> twisted`: yea.. it makes you wonder..
[01:15] <Poldie> jrib: how do i check it's installer properly?
[01:15] <jtisme> kneeki, no problems here with initramfs booting from live cd
[01:15] <suzanne> who is this?
[01:15] <twisted`> Slart: :D since the old one's could...
[01:15] <pr0fane> i have totally uninstalled wine* but when i type wine --version it tells me Wine-1.1.7. how to remove it
[01:15] <tilde> hi!
[01:15] <Poldie> jrib: about-plugins ?
[01:15] <echoJONES> any reason a broadcom wireless won't work?  the wl driver is activated, but no wireless
[01:16] <SidToner> hello... i have a weird problem... i can install things via apt-get but when i try to find packages or install them with synaptic hardly anything shows up
[01:16] <jrib> Poldie: apt-cache policy icedtea6-plugin   first
[01:16] <tilde> recommend me a window manager?
[01:16] <Slart> twisted`: make a suggestion at the brainstorm site about it
[01:16] <kneeki> jtisme: Mhmm, my wife's PC just did the CD check, worked fine
[01:16] <hacknperl> what a good alternate linux OS... something as easy as ubuntu...
[01:16] <jesseboi> Why are the forums fail?  eeeek!
[01:16] <hacknperl> i had 8.04 working fine....
[01:16] <Slart> twisted`: I've lost count on how many times I've recommended the alternate install cd to someone with problems
[01:16] <kneeki> jtisme: Download is going fast though, so no worries. =)
[01:16] <DIFH-iceroot> tilde: just test them, everyone likes another one
[01:16] <pr0fane> i have totally uninstalled wine* but when i type wine --version it tells me Wine-1.1.7. how to remove it
[01:16] <helder> btw wich is the fastest windows manager?
[01:16] <tilde> difh-iceroot mind recommending them?
[01:16] <tilde> hey kneeki
[01:17] <otai_g[c]> where i can d/l driver for Nic driver for Marvell Yukon 88E8036
[01:17] <kneeki> tilde: hey
[01:17] <jrib> pr0fane: what does 'which wine' return?
[01:17] <jtisme> kneeki, good perhaps you will have no more problems
[01:17] <tigerz> cabrioleur, so I have to make the font dir manually?
[01:17] <dr_willis> hacknperl,  i have issues with upgrades to 8.10. but no problems with a 8.10 clean install.. so try what you want.
[01:17] <sebsebseb> helder:  depends on hardware and there isan't really such a thing
[01:17] <Slart> hacknperl: I think most of the major distros are friendly.. fedora, suse, ubuntu etc.. try the live cd's.. see which you like
[01:17] <kneeki> jtisme: Hope so =)
[01:17] <dthacker> !repeat | pr0fane
[01:17] <DIFH-iceroot> tilde: i am using kde, gnome and xfce4 and like them all
[01:17] <tilde> was it you about a year ago that needed help with that webcam kneeki?
[01:17] <dr_willis> helder,  deopends on how you define 'fast' and what tests you use.
[01:17] <Poldie> jrib: a lot of output from that.  starts with:  Installed: 6b12-0ubuntu6
[01:17] <Poldie>   Candidate: 6b12-0ubuntu6
[01:17] <Poldie>   Version table:
[01:17] <Poldie>  *** 6b12-0ubuntu6 0
[01:17] <Poldie>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[01:17] <Poldie>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
[01:17] <FloodBot3> Poldie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <russianzilla> Guys any idea on how to get restricted drivers working in Intrepid?
[01:17] <sebsebseb> helder:  and Gnome/Ubuntu runs pretty well on 256MB RAM
[01:17] <hacknperl> but i did a backup with PING and it wont let me restore it.... so if im going to install another OS i want to try something different i think... 8.10 wont support SATA for me... so anyone know anything similar to ubuntu 8.10?
[01:17] <jrib> Poldie: then about:plugins
[01:17] <Slart> Poldie: never paste in the channel.. use pastebin
[01:17] <sebsebseb> russianzilla: yep install the package find it in synaptic
[01:17] <kneeki> tilde: Unless someone was using my handle, I don't think so. I havn't used a webcam in like, ... ever?
[01:17] <helder> i have a core2duo. ok so wich one is the prettiest ? sebsebseb
[01:17] <russianzilla> I upgraded and now they won't enable.
[01:17] <Poldie> slart: never heard of pastebin
[01:17] <hacknperl> i tried clean install
[01:17] <tilde> kneeki i remember you on this irc from a year ago
[01:17] <H264> woah, nice, 1,445 ppl in here... I think thats the most Ive seen to date.... nice :)
[01:18] <sunil> Hi guys. I broke my X. It starts, but I have no greeter. Is there a way that I can configure a greeter to start ?
[01:18] <tilde> you were a pretty cool person kneeki
[01:18] <stels88> http://www.marvell.com/products/pcconn/yukon/index.jsp
[01:18] <Slart> !paste | Poldie
[01:18] <sebsebseb> helder: yeah use Ubuntu and you can theme it later if you want
[01:18] <kneeki> tilde: My handle is also registered to me, so the topic may have been on something else. I need help a lot =)
[01:18] <Slart> Poldie: read up on it.. you'll likely get kicked if you keep pasting stuff in the channel
[01:18] <tilde> ah
[01:18] <cabrioleur> Bynw, check the filesystem on the cameras with proper fsck.
[01:18] <Guest67311> Just installed 8.10 and am very pleased :) Just one thing though, is it just me or is the speed of everything a bit lagged? I have 2 GB DDR2 and things seemed to be just a bit faster on Hardy
[01:18] <Poldie> sorry
[01:18] <kanja> Is there an easy way to convert html to a textinfo file?
[01:18] <wers> wow. they removed the transmission notification area icon. any idea on how to put it back?
[01:18] <kneeki> jtisme: Wife's PC just booted off the CD fine. My PC is just the suck.
[01:18] <helder> ok, what about the boot time? is there a way to remove or unable some uneeded services to make it faster? in ubuntu sebsebseb
[01:18] <Slart> Poldie: no worries.. common mistake
[01:19] <Poldie> i was muted for 15 seconds or something!
[01:19] <DIFH-iceroot> kanja: html2text ?
[01:19] <russianzilla> Ugh, looking like I'm gonna have to reinstall Ubuntu now.......
[01:19] <sebsebseb> helder:  I expect so, but  there aren't really any uneeded services if any at all, this is not Windows
[01:19] <jesseboi> Guest67311:  Speed of Intrepid has been a concern with many users.
[01:19] <tilde> oh this is an awesome conky.rc
[01:19] <Poldie> jrib: i'll try that pastebin thing on all the output from that command
[01:19] <tilde> even has how much i have downloaded and uploaded!
[01:19] <dthacker> helder: perhaps you should look at some performance tools to see if you have a bottleneck somewhere
[01:19] <scarface> russianzilla, I am having trouble with the restricted drivers too
[01:19] <SidToner> hello... i have a weird problem... i can install things via apt-get but when i try to find packages or install them with synaptic hardly anything shows up... any idea on what would cause this?
[01:19] <Slart> Poldie: yes... there are bots that look for people flooding the channel.. it's just a 10 second mute or something
[01:19] <kanja> ﻿DIFH-iceroot: that converts them to plain text I thought...
[01:19] <jrib> SidToner: give an examlp
[01:20] <russianzilla> I'm having trouble with everything, scarface. No restricted drivers, Software Sources won't start up, etc. etc.
[01:20] <Poldie> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64927/
[01:20] <sebsebseb> SidToner: maybe the sources are not set up right in Synaptic
[01:20] <snowveil> so does anyone know how I can get a device (dev/input/by-id/usb-Honey_Bee_AIRFLO-joystick) to be recognized as js0 or js1?
[01:20] <storrgie> Anyone using a GTX260? i cannot get mine to work
[01:20] <sunil> I recall that there is a commandline mode that I can use to repair X. Can someone remind me how to get there?
[01:20] <SidToner> jrib: vlc, restricted-extras
[01:20] <scarface> russianzilla, oh bummer
[01:20] <jrib> Poldie: k.  We need to fix your sources.list, but we will do that later.  How about about:plugins?
[01:20] <jrib> SidToner: is the problem currently present with vlc?
[01:20] <LjL> sunil: reboot into recovery mode, there is a "xfix" option
[01:21] <sunil> LjL: Hi.
[01:21] <foxfire559> has anyone had 8.10 freeze when connecting to a wireless network?
[01:21] <jesseboi> Intrepid won't even boot on my laptop.  Kinda makes me sad.  hehe
[01:21] <sunil> I've just rebooted into normal mode...
[01:21] <Sjaki> Hi guys, i'm running 8.10 RC and I am having trouble locating my mysql headers - the ones installed with LAMP
[01:21] <Sjaki> Could someone help me out please?
[01:21] <sunil> Is there an xfix mode from the command line in normal mode?
[01:21] <sabaua> yes
[01:21] <masmota> just installed 8.10, can someone tell me where to put in my workgroup for a win network?
[01:21] <jrib> Sjaki: why do you need them?
[01:21] <Poldie> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64930/
[01:21] <storrgie> Is anyone using a GTX 260 with 8.10?
[01:22] <Sjaki> I am starting a pvpgn server and I need the directory
[01:22] <SidToner> jrib: i was able to install it from comand line but i can't use the gui to search through packages they just don't show up... well anything except the basic installed packages
[01:22] <Sjaki> for the configure script to successfully run
[01:22] <sunil> LjL:  oh wait - I seem to remember that there is a way that I can "shutdown" into xfix mode.
[01:22] <jrib> Poldie: what does this site tell you about java: http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ?
[01:22] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | storrgie
[01:22] <sunil> I found it accidently once.
[01:22] <LjL> !xconfig | sunil, perhaps you mean this?
[01:22] <dekkong_> Hello guys! my friend wants to create an access point on his computer.currenly he is using a cable to his router and he wants to share the connection with his wlan card how can he do this?
[01:22] <Dorobo18jp> I have a question do  ineed to creat a launcher if i want an app to start when my desktop starts and i want it on the desktop
[01:23] <helder> is there a way to check hotmail mails like windows live mail in windows? the client ? not the webpage login. sebsebseb
[01:23] <sunil> ubottu: no - that's not the one.
[01:23] <Max_> access point is the router
[01:23] <storrgie> DIFH-iceroot: how would you suggest I ask about the GTX200 series card? I need to find someone else who is using it
[01:23] <jrib> SidToner: hit "reload" and then search for "vlc".  Does it fail to find anything?
[01:23] <dr_willis> !autostart | Dorobo18jp
[01:23] <helder> sorry to be a pita sebsebseb  :)
[01:23] <sunil> ubottu: dpkg wont let me conf a greeter
[01:23] <DIFH-iceroot> storrgie: just post your problems (maybe with log file)
[01:23] <sunil> ubottu: :) I'm sure you are smarter than I am
[01:23] <sebsebseb> helder: Pidgin can tell you when you got new Hotmail email,  as long as your also using it for MSN
[01:23] <storrgie> DIFH-iceroot: no log, dont know how to troubleshoot
[01:23] <dr_willis> sunil,  ubottu is a bot that just  spits out factoids
[01:23] <SidToner> jrib: yeah i hit reload and change to different mirrors to make sure
[01:23] <sebsebseb> helder:  hotmail sucks,  Gmail :)
[01:24] <Poldie> jrib: says  the jre isn't working on my system.  been there earlier - if i pop back a few times it's likely to display the applet but the dancing animation will be mostly covered by a box saying `more information`, and when i click on it it'll tell me java 1.0.6 (i think - something like that) is installed.  i'll try and provoke that behaviour now to see exactly what it says
[01:24] <sunil> dr_willis: I'm still sure that he is smarter than I am. :]
[01:24] <Slart> helder: I think there is some kind of webmail plugin for thunderbird
[01:24] <helder> i have 2 sebsebseb  gmail and hotmail
[01:24] <jrib> SidToner: don't know sounds weird.  You could try using an empty sources.list, hitting reload, then fixing the sources.list, hitting reload again.  That seems to fix "weird" issues
[01:24] <Slart> helder: it's not in the repos.. you have to find it using google or something
[01:24] <dr_willis> sunil,  its amuseing when i see people 'argue' with him. :)
[01:24] <eriq> Does anybody know if there's a different conky variable for the IBM ACPI stuff?  Updating to kernel 2.6.24-21 seems to have broken it.
[01:24] <Max_> Does Tor really work?
[01:24] <helder> Slart,  thank you :) gonna try that
[01:24] <dekkong_> Max_: he wants the other computers on the network to go through that computer when they connect to the internet
[01:24] <DIFH-iceroot> Max_: yes
[01:24] <dr_willis> !ics
[01:24] <sebsebseb> helder: you can use hotmail webmail in Linux
[01:25] <SidToner> jrib: just delete sources.list?
[01:25] <Slart> helder: this is the one, http://webmail.mozdev.org/
[01:25] <||Okkoto||> Hummm interesting.  Check it: http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5491516
[01:25] <sunil> dr_willis: I gotta see that sometime. Oh wait. I nearly just did that myself.
[01:25] <jrib> Poldie: yes, well you're using open java, not sun's.  It's working fine
[01:25] <sunil> I knew he was smarter than me!
[01:25] <Max_> yes but you can also do it by the terminal
[01:25] <sunil> LjL: Can you remind me how to restart in xfix mode ?
[01:25] <TraceRoute> Wow, repo servers are so slow. . . . .
[01:25] <jrib> SidToner: I guess you could move it somewhere (so you could restore it easily) or comment everything
[01:25] <storrgie> I am having trouble getting my GTX260 running in intrepid, does anyone have suggestions?
[01:26] <masmota> is there a spot to enter your network's workgroup in 8.10?
[01:26] <helder> thank you
[01:26] <SidToner> jrib: ok i'll give it a shot... thanks!
[01:26] <Slart> masmota: somewhere in samba.. since that's the only thing that uses workgroups
[01:26] <KevinO> hello why cant i get flash to work properly i installed adobe flash nonfree but flash does not work properly, i have to click on them to start them
[01:26] <Slart> masmota: check /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:26] <helder> i dont like pidgin. i think emesene is "cooler" sebsebseb
[01:26] <Max_> if the computer that you are geting the internet is running windows, go to the network and in the adapter go to properties and in advance share internet connection
[01:26] <codemaster> so i am having a lovely problem with intrepid... it seems that i am having nvidia driver issues... i have reinstalled nvidia drivers version 177, but they still don't work.
[01:26] <woody86> anyone know where I can find a service manual for an Averatec 3200?
[01:26] <KevinO> and some flash apps do not work
[01:26] <Poldie> jrib:  see, i restarted the browser, pasted the url and exactly what i said would happen is happening. it's saying ` you are using an older version of jre. you can download the latest version from the link above. your java config is  vendor: sun, version: java 6 update
[01:27] <Poldie> jrib: wouldn't say it's working fine!
[01:27] <DIFH-iceroot> woody86: google :(
[01:27] <jrib> Poldie: pasted what url?
[01:27] <storrgie> codemaster: what card?
[01:27] <LjL> sunil, you can access recovery mode from the GRUB menu. the GRUB menu shows up if you hit Esc right before Ubuntu starts booting
[01:27] <TraceRoute> is upgrading from hardy messy?
[01:27] <sebsebseb> Kevin0:  yeah Flash in Ubuntu I get my own issues with that,   but  I guess that's what happens when it's a crappyish propritary program.  and so any bugs only Adobe can fix
[01:27] <mib_20a176> how to  know my ubuntu which was in rc is now in final?
[01:27] <codemaster> storrgie: geforce 8600 mobile
[01:27] <woody86> DIFH-iceroot- I'm trying, but not finding anything so far :(
[01:27] <DIFH-iceroot> TraceRoute: works fine
[01:27] <Max_> what flash are you using
[01:27] <jrib> !final | mib_20a176
[01:27] <sebsebseb> mib_20a176:  as long as you apply all updates RC will update to final
[01:27] <storrgie> codemaster: should not have an issue with 177
[01:27] <masmota> Slart:  maybe i asked the wrong question... im going to "network servers" and it lists my workgroup, but when i click it, its empty.  ?
[01:27] <Max_> you can install know flash 10 in ubuntu without a problem
[01:27] <remu> Anyone know how i might be able to upgrade openoffice.org 2.4 to 3.0 in intrepid? is there a repo somewhere that might enable me to do it?
[01:27] <ttwio> helder: hi, pidgin is simple but you can be on all the aim and net you want to at the same time, that is cool to :)
[01:27] <Poldie> jrib: the one you told me to use: : http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ?
[01:28] <sunil> LjL: thanks
[01:28] <foxfire559> my laptop freezes whenever I try to connect to my school's wireless network, is there a way to keep it from freezing
[01:28] <codemaster> storrgie: right; I did a reisntall of the 177 drivers and reconfigured my xserver-xorg, but it says it can't load "type1" or the nvidia module
[01:28] <Max_> upgrade to ubuntu 8.10?
[01:28] <ianliu_88> How much Swap space should I use?
[01:28] <KevinO> my flash worked fine before i had to reinstall
[01:28] <jrib> Poldie: because you are using open java, not sun's java.
[01:28] <dft> anyone familiar with nm-ppp-auth-dialog?
[01:28] <helder> yeah i only like x-chat to irc, gonna check amsn now if it has a msn live 9 theme look a like, its great ttwio
[01:28] <masmota> ianliu_88:  double your ram as a rule of thumb
[01:28] <sunil> By the way, I'm also getting this problem with ibis and I'm wondering if anyone else is getting it..
[01:28] <storrgie> codemaster: dont know man, i have a GTX260 and i cannot get it to run with 177 or the binary drivers
[01:28] <sebsebseb> ianliu_88:   how much RAM do you have?
[01:28] <eriq> remu:  There's a PPA out there somewhere, but I don't know the details
[01:29] <sunil> It doesn't seem to complete shutting down
[01:29] <Slart> masmota: well... I still think it's a samba issue.. linux doesn't normally use workgroups.. it's something windows invented for their file sharing stuff afaik
[01:29] <DIFH-iceroot> ianliu_88: depends on what you are doing
[01:29] <Fishscene> Any reports on compatibility of VMWare Server 2.0 and Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:29] <tilde> what format would i save a conky script as?
[01:29] <ianliu_88> I've got 2Gb ram
[01:29] <Poldie> jrib: that's why the applet doesn't work properly?
[01:29] <Max_> you can get java runtime 6 form your add and remove
[01:29] <obx> guys
[01:29] <jrib> Poldie: probably
[01:29] <obx> what ubuntu should i be downloading for my 64 bit system?
[01:29] <Max_> just search for java and you will see it
[01:29] <dr_willis> tilde,  conky config files are just text files
[01:29] <Slart> masmota: and samba is the software in linux that talks "windows"..
[01:29] <sebsebseb> ianliu_88: I run 1GB RAM and no SWAP, and  things run rather well.   I would suggest  512MB RAM swap for you if any at all
[01:29] <dft> anyone familiar with nm-ppp-auth-dialog?
[01:29] <sunil> The bar that shows on shutdown never completes.
[01:29] <Poldie> jrib: so do you think that's why the java applet on the site i'm having trouble with isn't working?
[01:29] <Lonewolfnight> 8.10 on a sony vgn-fw140E, xorg intel driver pulls up fine on external connector. Laptop screen strange grey. Forums have on resolution. Need help getting 1600x900 working navtive. VESA works 8x6
[01:29] <mib_20a176> jrib: isn't there any way to check rather than ! final? Check via some command like lsb_release -a
[01:29] <dr_willis> obx,  you can use the 32bit or 64bit either should work
[01:29] <Slart> !samba | masmota
[01:29] <jrib> Poldie: yes
[01:29] <tilde> how do i cd to ~/.conky/amarok
[01:29] <sunil> I often have to manually power off.
[01:29] <sebsebseb> ianliu_88:  512MB swap if any at all for you  I would suggest
[01:29] <obx> yes but will 32bit show i have 4gb of ram?
[01:29] <obx> :(
[01:30] <jrib> mib_20a176: final is nothing special, it's just rc with updates
[01:30] <roxan> tilde, what do you mean?
[01:30] <Poldie> jrib: so what i need is the offical sun java support? if/when it finally turns up?
[01:30] <sunil> I'm a bit worried about that.
[01:30] <remu> eriq: will the ppa install openoffice 3.0 alongside 2.4, or will it update 2.4.....I want it to update 2.4
[01:30] <genii> obx: No it won't. Unless you use server kernel
[01:30] <Max_> here are the instruction to be able to open rar files from your archive manager
[01:30] <roxan> obx, 32 bit cant use 4 gb of ram
[01:30] <tarelerulz> do any of you have more then 3 diffent linux distro on one  hard drive ?  if so how did you do that ?
[01:30] <Slart> obx: only the 32-bit server version will use 4GB.. and all the 64-bit versions of course
[01:30] <eriq> The PPA is supposed to update.  Haven't tried it myself.
[01:30] <DIFH-iceroot> tilde: cd ~/.conky/amarok
[01:30] <ianliu_88> sebsebseb: Ok, thanks :)
[01:30] <obx> but which one is the 64 version!
[01:30] <obx> amd64?
[01:30] <Slart> !rar
[01:30] <Max_> Prerequisites: add universe and multiverse repositories.
[01:30] <Max_> Open a terminal window and type in:
[01:30] <Max_> sudo apt-get install rar
[01:30] <Max_> sudo ln -fs /usr/bin/rar /usr/bin/unrar
[01:30] <Max_> After that you can find Archive Manager in the Gnome menu under Applications -> Accessories.
[01:30] <FloodBot3> Max_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:30] <codemaster> storrgie: i am thinking maybe reconfigure xserver-xorg and then viewing my x configuration and making sure it looks okay, i guess?
[01:30] <DIFH-iceroot> obx: yes
[01:30] <tilde> how do i create that directory?
[01:30] <obx> cause when i try it in vmware it says my system isn't 64 bit but it is
[01:30] <storrgie> codemaster: im doing the same thing right now
[01:30] <sebsebseb> ianliu_88:   I think I read before that swap shoudn't be any bigger  than 512MB really
[01:30] <Slart> obx: it's named something like amd64
[01:30] <DIFH-iceroot> tilde: mkdir
[01:31] <a1fa> thanks 10000 people.. archive.ubuntu.org is hosed up
[01:31] <dr_willis> tilde,  one makes a directory with the mkdir command or make a 'folder' with the name
[01:31] <codemaster> storrgie: having issues or? :P
[01:31] <Singer2> hello
[01:31] <eriq> remu: The PPA is supposed to update.  Haven't tried it myself. (forgot to put your name in my reply earlier, don't want you to miss it)
[01:31] <Lonewolfnight> 8.10 on a sony vgn-fw140E, xorg intel driver pulls up fine on external connector. Laptop screen strange grey. Forums have on resolution. Need help getting 1600x900 working navtive. VESA works 8x6
[01:31] <david1> real problems with static ip - what file does dns go in?
[01:31] <obx> maybe it's just a vmware thing
[01:31] <Singer2> how do I load the ath5K driver? it use to work on the beta but its not loading for me
[01:31] <obx> i know i'm running 64 bit vista
[01:31] <Slart> david1: /etc/resolv.conf I think
[01:31] <Poldie> i don't have a swap partition. i have 4 gigs of ram.  do i need a swap partition? and if I don't have one and i run out of memory, will i get a pleasant message or will ubuntu crash or something?
[01:31] <david1> Slart thanks
[01:31] <obx> but vmware doesn't recognize my system as 64 bit
[01:31] <remu> eriq: thanks, I just found the PPA going to try it now.
[01:32] <storrgie> codemaster: i dont know how to do a reconfigure... its asking me questions about my keyboard i have no idea
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Poldie:  I run 1GB RAM and without a swap space at all,  and things run pretty well
[01:32] <DIFH-iceroot> Poldie: kernell s killing some prozesses
[01:32] <Slart> Poldie: you'll need swap if you're going to use hibernating.. I doubt you'll need it otherwise
[01:32] <codemaster> storrgie: haha, yeah, that's what xserver-xorg does
[01:32] <storrgie> codemaster: any suggestions?
[01:32] <roxan> Poldie, sebsebseb it depends on what you use on your computer, i too have a GB of ram and it never crosses 60
[01:32] <Max_> how is working VMware in your linux system? good?
[01:32] <Poldie> slart: i'm not on a laptop -never use hibernate.
[01:32] <codemaster> storrgie: nope :(
[01:32] <dr_willis> Poldie,  i would say make a 512mb swap partition just in case..
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Slart:  for sleep mode how big should a swap be?
[01:32] <storrgie> codemaster: i just want to remove the bin drivers....
[01:33] <codemaster> storrgie: ah
[01:33] <Slart> Poldie: then you'll be fine without swap.. or just put 1GB or something
[01:33] <Poldie> dr_willis: just 512?
[01:33] <gandalfcome> It doesnt give me the dist-upgrade option in the update-manager, I tried -c -d and so on im on 8.04
[01:33] <dr_willis> Poldie,  if nothing else.. any live cds you may ever use.. will see it also
[01:33] <storrgie> how do i remove the nvidia bin drivers?
[01:33] <codemaster> i guess i'll try a bit of fussing and see what happens...
[01:33] <dr_willis> Poldie,  i make 512mb swap on every hd i have.. :) just in case
[01:33] <Slart> sebsebseb: I don't think sleep needs swap.. hibernate needs as much swap as memory
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Poldie:  I think I read that swap should be no bigger than 512MB RAM
[01:33] <codemaster> storrgie: sudo aptitude purge maybe
[01:33] <Singer2> anyone?
[01:33] <Singer2> I can't get the ath5K module to work in 8.10
[01:33] <Singer2> to get reconigze my wifi card
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Slart:  well sleep mode works on this PC in Vista, but not Ubuntu, and I have no swap space so
[01:33] <Singer2> it works with the beta
[01:33] <ConstantineXVI> X-Chat Gnome, vanilla X-Chat, or something else?
[01:33] <Fishscene> Any reports on compatibility of VMWare Server 2.0 and Ubuntu 8.10 Server?
[01:33] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: it doesnt matter how big the swap file is
[01:33] <storrgie> How do i remove the nvidia bin drivers?
[01:33] <pawan> hi
[01:33] <Poldie> sebsebseb: i thought swap partitions should be quite big otherwise you're just going to get an extra 512mb ram. why not have 5 gigs of extra 'ram'?
[01:33] <attonbitusira> Hi. Can someone provide me with a link to the md5sum for ubuntu-8.10-alternate-amd64.iso please ?
[01:34] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[01:34] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: is a dynamic file with max X MB not static X MB
[01:34] <Poldie> pawan: 6 months time!
[01:34] <moffa> its already out
[01:34] <woli> hi. I just tried to install intrepid ibex as an update on my desktop, but there were some errors.
[01:34] <Slart> sebsebseb: linux has it's own little bag of problems with sleep.. with or without swap
[01:34] <Fishscene> pawan, what new version? A new version was released in the past 24 hours
[01:34] <ConstantineXVI> Singer2: terminal, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, add in "blacklist ath_pci" at the bottom
[01:34] <CITguy08> Poldie: typically your swap should be about half the size of your physical ram
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Slart:  yeah that's what I thought, I mean I read stuff about how Linux is crap with power management
[01:34] <pawan> gow to upgrade
[01:34] <tilde> HOLY HELL
[01:34] <tilde> http://blog.brixandersen.dk/images/conky.png
[01:34] <DIFH-iceroot> pawan: 31.10.08
[01:34] <pawan> how
[01:34] <dr_willis> Oh yea. if using suspend/hibernate you will want a bigger swap..
[01:34] <Lonewolfnight> why does ubuntu override xorg.conf settings and how can I specify modeline?
[01:34] <woli> what makes me doubt that the update was installed is that after the installation the installer disapeared, without 'cleaning up' or asking for reboot...
[01:34] <tilde> thats one insane conky setup
[01:34] <darklust> Is 8.10 worth it or should I stick to 8.04?
[01:34] <tilde> 8.04
[01:34] <Singer2> darklust
[01:34] <dr_willis> darklust,  use what you want..
[01:34] <CITguy08> Poldie: however, since you have 4GB, you probably won't need swap
[01:35] <storrgie> how do i remove the nvidia bin drivers?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> darklust: to be honset 8.10 is hardly worth it unless
[01:35] <Singer2> the 8.10 release is worse then the beta
[01:35] <Slart> darklust: wait a week and see how much complaining there is in here
[01:35] <DIFH-iceroot> darklust: 8.04 is LTS
[01:35] <tilde> 8.04 ^^
[01:35] <Poldie> citguy08: that's what i thought. but if i run out of ram, what happens? nice message or   a crash?
[01:35] <darklust> Ok
[01:35] <dr_willis> Ive had no real issues with 8.10 so far.. other then its not wanting to automount my usb thumbdrive
[01:35] <sebsebseb> darklust: unless you want it to be able to shut down itself  after a minute, if you leave it on the shut down and that screen
[01:35] <DIFH-iceroot> Poldie: kernel is killing prozesses if you are out of ram and out of swap
[01:35] <earthen> tring to install AWN but it's not starting could someone give me some help with it
[01:35] <woli> help dammit..
[01:35] <sunil> Durn - neither xfix or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will allow me to change the greeter.
[01:35] <CITguy08> Poldie: to tell you the truth, I have no clue. But my system has 2GB and I never see swap being used at all.
[01:35] <Singer2> dr_willis: with the 8.10 beta, my wireless worked, with the 8.10 release it doesn't work.. hence beta= better then release
[01:36] <lucax> can i resize ntfs partitions with gparted?
[01:36] <woli> how shity... there is no new background in intrepid?
[01:36] <sunil> DOes anyone know how I change the greeter while X is broked?
[01:36] <tritium> !language | woli
[01:36] <DIFH-iceroot> lucax: yes but make a backup
[01:36] <sebsebseb> lucax: yes you can, but if you got Vista I woudn't recommend you resize VIsta NTFS with Gparted
[01:36] <roxan> lucax, you need ntfstool
[01:36] <pawan> how to upgrade
[01:36] <tritium> woli: yes, there is a new background image
[01:36] <sunil> The sole brokeness is that there is no greeter.
[01:36] <woli> then my ibex didn't install wel....
[01:36] <FAJALOU> is there any alternative way to install 8.10 that is faster than update manager?
[01:36] <Poldie> sounds like i should have swap partition just in case. i'd look for tutorial on ubuntuforums but it's down!
[01:36] <Fishscene> Torrents
[01:36] <CITguy08> sunil: is gdm installed?
[01:36] <dr_willis> Singer2,  wireless onboth my laptops finally worked with just a few clicks for me under 8.10 - so to each their own.. :)
[01:36] <roxan> FAJALOU, CD
[01:37] <Slart> FAJALOU: download a intrepid cd using torrents.. use that to upgrade
[01:37] <cishpix> anyone can give me answer, does ubuntu 8.10 support atheros AR5007?
[01:37] <sunil> gdm is installed yes, but...
[01:37] <RickZilla> http://www.rickscheibner.net/images/gobeavstanner.jpg My latest creation based on some tutorials and just by messing around in GIMP...check it out, would love some feedback, pro or con
[01:37] <lucax> roxan: so... sudo apt-get install ntsftool and then umount /media/disk and then run gparted?
[01:37] <FAJALOU> Slart:  won't that wipe the hdd?
[01:37] <sunil> I set up e17's greeter to be the default greeter
[01:37] <fallore> Starting firefox creates a new process but does not actually open up firefox for me to use. This is after firefox crashed earlier (for no discernible reason) and has happened to me before. I'm running 8.04
[01:37] <roxan> lucax, its suppose to. but use liveCD of gparted.
[01:37] <centaur5> cishpix: My Atheros 5007 was supported since Gutsy
[01:37] <Slart> FAJALOU: you can use an install cd to upgrade from
[01:37] <FAJALOU> Slart:  really?  it gives that option?
[01:37] <sunil> but the e17 greeter is borked.
[01:37] <lucax> roxan: thanks
[01:37] <FAJALOU> sveet!
[01:37] <Singer2> cishpix: NO..., it was in beta but not in release
[01:37] <Slart> FAJALOU: yes
[01:37] <sebsebseb> is it a bad idea to  upgrade a computer that has 256MB RAM and that is old, an old lap top.  that runs Hardy pretty well, to Ibex?   I think probably not worth it
[01:37] <Singer2> centaur5: how did you get it to work?
[01:37] <sunil> I may have even borked e17.
[01:37] <pawan> when i am running automatic update it is not updating to new version
[01:38] <cishpix> centaur5, but in my acer 4715z doesn't support it when I install gutsy
[01:38] <pawan> i am on 8.04
[01:38] <FAJALOU> Slart: where does it give that option?
[01:38] <Fishscene> fallore: Try restarting the computer
[01:38] <Baatti> um...
[01:38] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: never touch a running system!!!!!!
[01:38] <attonbitusira> anyone have link to md5sum list?
[01:38] <sunil> So I have nothing to pass me into a windowing system.
[01:38] <centaur5> Singer2: It worked as soon as I updated from Feisty to Gutsy.
[01:38] <fallore> Fishscene: i know that that would fix it, but i would like to fix the issue at the root of the problem, not just stop it for a while
[01:38] <Baatti> so I for some reason can't mount this .iso onto my disc
[01:38] <Slart> FAJALOU: either in the install menu or when you insert the cd with the system running
[01:38] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot:  wtf????????
[01:38] <Fishscene> Hash for Torrents: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:38] <FAJALOU> slart: ok
[01:38] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I have a new problem, this time with hardware.  While trying to get my Dell 1703FP working with Ubuntu and playing around with xorg.conf settings, I saw that the screen went blank.  I turned it off and on, and the screen remained blank.  I took out the connector cable, and the screen STILL was blank (as in, there should be something floating around).  What the hell did I do, and how do I fix it?
[01:38] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: you are aksing is it good to update a working hardy
[01:38] <Yuretsz> How can I disable How can I disable screensaver using ssh?
[01:38] <centaur5> cishpix: Must be a different iteration then or something. I used a TI card with Feisty til Gutsy came out.
[01:38] <Singer2> centaur5: i HAVE a atheros 242X
[01:38] <FAJALOU> Slart:  is it still recommended to run it through update-manager -d?
[01:39] <sunil> CITguy08: I know there is a way to tell xserver to use gdm as a greeter, but I don't know how to do it.
[01:39] <Singer2> it works in the beta but the release is broken
[01:39] <Fishscene> fallore: not sure then =\ Have you double-checked that closing firefox actually kills all firefox processes?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot:  no if it's good idea to update that particular lap top
[01:39] <Slart> FAJALOU: I think it will be the same in the end
[01:39] <jrib> attonbitusira: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[01:39] <CITguy08> sunil: let me look into it
[01:39] <fallore> Fishscene: there is no firefox to close. i had to manually kill the processes
[01:39] <attonbitusira> perfect. thanks!
[01:39] <FAJALOU> Slart:  i will try through updaemanager first, just to be on the 'safe' side
[01:39] <Fishscene> fallore: I'm at the limit of my knowledge. sorry =\
[01:39] <MarkJones> Could anyone help with getting my Brother HL-2140 monochrome laser printer that worked fine with Ubuntu 8.04.1, that now 8.10 doesnt seem to include the same driver?
[01:39] <tigerz> anyone can help me start my X.
[01:39] <drewby> Has this channel ever considered making an #ubuntu2 because it gets so busy sometimes?
[01:39] <fallore> np Fishscene
[01:40] <justcollapse> is anyone still having trouble with the "wired connection" bug???  it shows closed in the bug-tracker but i still can't use a wire to connect to my router
[01:40] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot:   I have seen nothing in  Intrepid Ibex that that particular woman would benefit from,  and since the lap top is old, and by the sounds of it it does not even shut down properly,   Intrepid Ibex update is probably not a good idea
[01:40] <pr0fane> can someone help me
[01:40] <coz_> ok I have download intrepid twice and got the md5sum but none of them match at all    just thought I would report that  I will download from a third location to test
[01:40] <jrib> pr0fane: I tried, but you never answered me
[01:40] <DumbIntel> hi guys, I have ubuntu installed but I need to get some software online, but I cannot use my net connection on there, so I was thinknig I could download it through windows and put it on one of my drives and then install it in ubuntu is there a way?
[01:40] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: as i said, never touch a running system
[01:40] <Fishscene> justcollapse: are you using the correct cable type?
[01:40] <pr0fane> oh..sorry..i tought that nobody cared and went away
[01:40] <Poldie> is there an irc client which can block the 'left the room' type messages? pidgin won't and doesn't look like chatzilla can either
[01:40] <justcollapse> yes
[01:41] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot:   that's nonsense loads of us will upgrade Ubuntu and not clean install
[01:41] <Slart> Poldie: xchat can do it.. irssi can do it
[01:41] <justcollapse> fishscene: it was working fine before 8.10 upgrade
[01:41] <Blaenk> hey guys in the ubuntu live CD, in the partition step, I want to delete my old ext3 and swap partitions and then choose the 'install to largest continuous free space' option, where can I go to delete my old partitions? is there a disk editor in the ubuntu live CD? where can I find it?
[01:41] <DumbIntel> because I want to install the drivers
[01:41] <jrib> Poldie: pidgin can too.  Check your plugins
[01:41] <DIFH-iceroot> Poldie: irssi can do that, xchat also
[01:41] <Fishscene> Not sure then
[01:41] <roxan> Poldie, yes Xchat
[01:41] <pr0fane> jrib, i have uninstalled wine from everywhere, but still i can use command wine program.exe
[01:41] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot:  I have  used Ubuntu since 2004, and guess what?  updated  most of those times
[01:41] <sebsebseb> differnet computers
[01:41] <Poldie> i have no pidgin plugins - will take a look
[01:41] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: ok
[01:41] <Singer2> anyone?
[01:41] <cishpix> centaur5, my gutsy can connect after I use madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3861-20080903 driver, but I've problem. If my laptop goes standby, my atheros will can't detect the wifi so that I must restart my system, it will work again. what should I do?
[01:41] <jrib> pr0fane: what does 'which wine' return?
[01:41] <pr0fane> jrib, and command wine --version gives me a answer
[01:41] <asarch> What is the name of the last release?
[01:42] <jrib> !ibex | asarch
[01:42] <Blaenk> someone please, my friend is going give linux a shot but he is growing impatient :(
[01:42] <Fishscene> Hardy  Heron
[01:42] <DumbIntel> hi guys, I have ubuntu installed but I need to get some software online, but I cannot use my net connection on there, so I was thinknig I could download it through windows and put it on one of my drives and then install it in ubuntu is there a way?
[01:42] <DIFH-iceroot> Fishscene: fail
[01:42] <pr0fane> jrib, nothing
[01:42] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: ,but what I am thinking is if this particular lap top was updated to Intrepid that something could go wrong as a result,  and then  after those issues to deal with,  well really does not make Intrepid worth it.  and  it's hardly worth it anyway for most Ubuntu users really
[01:42] <asarch> Any support for this wireless card? 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[01:42] <CITguy08> sunil: try this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[01:42] <Fishscene> Rofl. Different interpretations :)
[01:42] <roxan> DumbIntel, there are few sites. try googling
[01:42] <jrib> pr0fane: not possible... type 'wine --version' now
[01:42] <centaur5> cishpix: Sounds like a bug in standby I would make sure it's been filed if not create a new one.  There are plenty of bugs with standby mode.
[01:42] <pr0fane> jrib: wine-1.1.7
[01:43] <Singer2> asarch: it was working in the beta, but broken in teh release
[01:43] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know a working desklet for weather in japan ?
[01:43] <Blaenk> someone please? it's a simple question but it keeps getting scrolled up, and my friend is growing impatient :(
[01:43] <q0r3> so i wanted to install 8.10, and the live session is acting really strangely on me.  any window i try to open, the window crashes almost instantaneously, and the gnome panels disappear, then reappear.  i tried googling using w3m, but coudlnt' find anything.  also tried installing irssi, but it told me apt-get had a memory violation (not sure if this is beacuse it was a live session, or if it's further indication of something wrong)
[01:43] <jrib> pr0fane: type 'hash -r' and run 'which wine' again
[01:43] <q0r3> (back in windows now)
[01:43] <lucax> roxan: thanks, the name of the package was ntfsprogs, but worked quite well... did umount and then gparted, thank you!
[01:43] <Blaenk> q0r3: try the alternate install disk
[01:43] <Dante123> Anyone tried getting COD5 beta to work under Wine???
[01:43] <asarch> Thank you Singer2
[01:43] <pr0fane> jrib: /usr/local/bin/wine
[01:43] <jrib> pr0fane: so does /usr/local/ tell you anything?
[01:43] <MarkJones> Im puzzled cause Brother offers Debian drivers for my printer, and it works perfectly in Debian 4.0 etch (stable).Tried the driver in Ubuntu since they seemed to have dropped or changed the old driver that worked.Not sure why that same driver doesnt work in Ubuntu.
[01:44] <CITguy08> q0r3: did you check the disk for defects?
[01:44] <q0r3> Blaenk, but this has never beeen a problem for me.  the live session has always worked beautifully.  i'm not interested in installing at all if this is how ubuntu will behave.
[01:44] <roxan> q0r3, did you checked cd for defects?
[01:44] <Dante123> I am trying and it seems to install, but error after that (Unhandled exception caught etc.)
[01:44] <roxan> Blaenk, what is your problem
[01:44] <addicted68098> Help, I can't unmute the line-in on a sound card I just installed through the Alsa mixer!
[01:44] <q0r3> doing that right now.
[01:44] <pr0fane> jrib: not realy
[01:44] <attonbitusira> md5 is correct... looks like I need a new cdrom drive
[01:44] <Blaenk> q0r3: that's not how ubuntu will behave, it's probably just the live cd, did you check for defects?
[01:44] <roxan> Dante123, check at wine's site
[01:44] <SidToner> jrib: seems to be working better perhaps it's just the quicksearch window in synaptic is kinda worthless
[01:44] <jrib> pr0fane: you probably compiled wine yourself and installed it
[01:44] <SidToner> jrib: thanks again
[01:44] <Blaenk> roxan: in the ubuntu live CD, in the partition step, I want to delete my old ext3 and swap partitions and then choose the 'install to largest continuous free space' option, where can I go to delete my old partitions? is there a disk editor in the ubuntu live CD? where can I find it?
[01:44] <clayg> when i goto reboot, shutdown or lock screen it sort of freezes for 10 or so seconds before giving me the box with the options
[01:44] <jrib> SidToner: ah, glad you figured it out
[01:44] <sunil> yikes
[01:44] <Lonewolfnight> attonbitusira: burn cd at low rate sometimes helps
[01:44] <q0r3> Blaenk, doing it now, figured i'd come here to ask if anyone had reported somethign similar
[01:44] <pr0fane> jrib: yes i did
[01:44] <jrib> pr0fane: then you need to uninstall that
[01:45] <Singer2> can anyone help with a atheros 5007 (242X ABG wifi)?
[01:45] <Singer2> its not working in 8.10
[01:45] <pr0fane> jrib: the thing is.. how?
[01:45] <Dante123> ﻿roxan I did....not one word about COD5 beta.  Is there a wine irc chat channel???
[01:45] <sunil> CITguy08: thanks for link. Reading now...
[01:45] <roxan> Blaenk, In one of the installation steps you will be asked for exactly the same
[01:45] <MarkJones> Blaenk If you want to wipe everything from your drive and install Ubuntu fresh then choose the option to use the entire drive.
[01:45] <Blaenk> no MarkJones, I have my windows partition there
[01:45] <roxan> Dante123, i bet there is
[01:45] <attonbitusira> @Lonewolfnight, you think it got corrupted during burn process? Install is currently *very slow* during select and install software stage
[01:45] <FAJALOU> Singer2:  get on and see the release notes; http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[01:45] <jrib> pr0fane: you probably ran 'make install' at some point.  You can try 'make uninstall' from the directory you compiled (same place you ran 'make install').  If it doesn't provide an uninstall rule, then you need to delete it manually
[01:45] <BoltClock> when is nvidia releasing new drivers that work with x.org 7.4?
[01:45] <decherdt> howto filter out "enter" and "leaving" blurbs?
[01:45] <FAJALOU> too see if your problem is there
[01:45] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know any good desklets or something similar so i can have a weather and terminal screen on my desktop when i start
[01:45] <MarkJones> Blaenk are you trying to dual boot?
[01:46] <roxan> Blaenk, choose manual option
[01:46] <Blaenk> yes, my friend is
[01:46] <addicted68098> BoltClock: Probably never
[01:46] <cishpix> centaur5, do u have any suggest about my problem?
[01:46] <pr0fane> jrib: i already deleted the directory, where i run make install
[01:46] <jrib> pr0fane: get it again
[01:46] <Singer2> FAJALOU: yes, I installed the wierd package.. and I did a rmmod ath_pci and ath_hal
[01:46] <roxan> Dorobo18jp, there is screenlet and google's widget also work
[01:46] <Singer2> but still no luck
[01:46] <fallore> Starting firefox creates a new process but does not actually open up firefox for me to use. This is after firefox crashed earlier (for no discernible reason) and has happened to me before. I'm running 8.04
[01:46] <q0r3> oh WHAT THE FUCK.  looks like ubuntu has messed up both of my external hard drievs.  that's 1.2 TB of data.
[01:46] <Blaenk> manual will let me delete ext3/swap partitions while preserving my ntfs partition right MarkJones and roxan? but then I want to use the 'use largest continuous free space' option so that it can install in newly freed space, I would just click back right
[01:46] <FAJALOU> !language | q0r3
[01:46] <Singer2> FAJALOU: is ther a way to make those not load on reboot?
[01:46] <Dorobo18jp> thanks roxan
[01:46] <pr0fane> pr0fane: i downloaded it again, but i can`t do make uninstall
[01:46] <roxan> Blaenk, no
[01:47] <centaur5> cishpix: I don't, as I told you previously it's most likely a bug and you need to file it on launchpad.
[01:47] <pr0fane> jrib: i downloaded it again, but i can`t do make uninstall
[01:47] <Blaenk> roxan: no what?
[01:47] <FAJALOU> Singer2:  you could try removing them from modprobe...
[01:47] <chadeldridge> Any news on VPN getting fixed?
[01:47] <attonbitusira> q0r3: you should store your data separately from your OS
[01:47] <jrib> pr0fane: you need to do the ./configure, make, dance first probably
[01:47] <CITguy08> q0r3: are you getting errors or what is going on?
[01:47] <roxan> Blaenk, choose manual, then delete the partition you wish and create the same
[01:47] <Blaenk> I guess I'll have to use acronis disk director in WINDOWS just to delete the partitions and free up the space before I can install ubuntu then right? I was pretty sure I was able to do it within ubuntu...using gparted or something
[01:47] <Singer2> FAJALOU: I did a rmmod [name] and rmmod [name2]
[01:47] <addicted68098> Fun non-8.10 related driver issue (ok maybe not) >>>> Help, I can't unmute the line-in on a sound card I just installed through the Alsa mixer!
[01:47] <dekushrub> is the repository for ubuntu 8.10 smaller than ubuntu 8.04?
[01:47] <Singer2> but when I reboot it comes back
[01:47] <q0r3> attonbitusira, they are. they're external.  they were fine, i booted into the live session, i booted back into windows, and now it can't read them.
[01:47] <BoltClock> addicted68098: so i guess that means no intrepid for me?
[01:47] <brandon_m_pace> chadeldridge: what problems are you having with VPN? are you using intrepid?
[01:48] <tilde> http://blog.brixandersen.dk/images/conky.png
[01:48] <q0r3> CITguy08, windows tells me they're not formatted
[01:48] <pr0fane> jrib:ok i will try it
[01:48] <jrib> does anyone have good documentation on hotplug?  In particular I want to setup synaptics touchpad options
[01:48] <Blaenk> no roxan I don't want to create them myself, my friend is the one installing linux and he's new to it, I want him to delete the old partitions then use the 'choose largest continuous free space' option which does everything automatically, so from my understanding, he would choose manual, delete the partitions, then hit the back button to get to the step where he chose manual but this time choose the 'install to largest continuous free space' option
[01:48] <Blaenk> right?
[01:48] <roxan> tilde, its nice but this is a support channel
[01:48] <tilde> oh
[01:48] <ladino> j
[01:48] <chadeldridge> brandon_m_pace: yes 8.10 and its the same issue that has been reported for a while now.  VPN connections to windows 2003 pptp vpn servers fail.  I could give you more info if i knew what would help
[01:48] <brandon_m_pace> addicted68098: why are you using alsa??
[01:48] <unitedp0tsmokers> hi, good morning guys, im using hardy heron, but now i want to upgrade my system. when upgrading process started, then i got an error msg, it sounds like i have a problem with my internet connection, i repeat this upgrade twice but untill now i cannot upgrade.. what should i do? pls help
[01:48] <cabrioleur> brandon_m_pace, alsa is not problematic.
[01:49] <brandon_m_pace> addicted68098: ah
[01:49] <jesseboi> q0r3:  Shutdown computer, detach drive, power up back into Windows and try pluggin the drive in again.
[01:49] <brandon_m_pace> cabrioleur: I just use pulse
[01:49] <roxan> Blaenk, i dont think that will work, you need to apply the changes and if you go back they will be undone. so what can he do is run gparted delete the ext3 and run installer
[01:49] <dedal> hello anybody, have a question about ubuntu desktop 8.10. After boot from cd on choose "Try Ubuntu without any changes ..." or "Install Ubuntu" read this on the screen:
[01:49] <||Okkoto||> Alright guys, check it out!  I just figured out a very easy way to take advantage of the free XBox 360 Elite giveaway that Blockbuster, Amazon, Netflix, etc, is doing!  It's simple, 1) Sign up 2) Complete an Offer (I just found a good one that doesn't cost money and can be canceled before the charges happen) 3) Get 8 to 11 of your buddies or peoples to do the same.  Bam!  Free XBox 360!  I know it's legit becaus
[01:49] <q0r3> jesseboi, might as well.  i can't even check if the iso was corrupt or not now.
[01:49] <||Okkoto||> PM me if you are interested
[01:49] <cabrioleur> unitedp0tsmokers, the servers are very slow and might cause timeout a lot. I recommend waiting a day or 2, or download CD through bittorent.
[01:49] <||Okkoto||> I need about 6 more people to go
[01:49] <roxan> unitedp0tsmokers, please put the error message
[01:50] <addicted68098> brandon_m_pace: what else is their to use?
[01:50] <||Okkoto||> I've got some Youtube videos that show it's valitity as well.
[01:50] <Blaenk> roxan: can I get to gparted before the installer comes up? in previous livecd installer versions I was, but in this version, which I just installed on my home computer a few hours ago, it just shows the installer and nothing else (no top menu i mean)
[01:50] <CITguy08> q0r3: don't actually do anything to your external drive until we know exactly what's going on with it. You may still have data on there, but Windows doesn't know how to read it.
[01:50] <brandon_m_pace> I recommend that everyone use the torrents
[01:50] <dr_willis> ||Okkoto||,  just leave now...
[01:50] <LifesaGarden> Is there something to be done to make Rhythmbox upload to an Ipod faster?
[01:50] <Thedjatclubrock> !pm
[01:50] <Singer2> how do I pervent a kernel module from loading on startup?
[01:50] <brandon_m_pace> I am seeding full speed on 3 of the ISOs right now just like many others
[01:50] <roxan> Blaenk, press alt+f2 and type gksu gparted. but i think you need to install it first
[01:51] <brandon_m_pace> addicted68098: is your main sound server pulseaudio?
[01:51] <Blaenk> alright, I'll just have my friend install acronis disk director then, seems like much less of a hassle, thanks though
[01:51] <||Okkoto||> As fake as it sounds, it's the real deal.  It's a big advertisment gig that some major companies are all gaining together with
[01:51] <NBrepresent> hello, i have an external hd that mounts with the owner as root, how can i modify it to mount with my user as the owner?
[01:51] <chadeldridge> brandon_m_pace: did you get my statement about vpn ?
[01:51] <||Okkoto||> For example, if someone is going to get Netflix, sign up through me -- it'll cost you the same, but it'll give me points.
[01:51] <brandon_m_pace> chadeldridge: yes unfortunately I don't know how to help on this one as I can't personally test it
[01:52] <roxan> !smap ||Okkoto||
[01:52] <chadeldridge> !ot | ||Okkoto||
[01:52] <roxan> !spam ||Okkoto||
[01:52] <h4x0r> google it
[01:52] <drumstyk1> has anyone ever had sudo nautilus give you errors?
[01:52] <||Okkoto||> Woots?
[01:52] <||Okkoto||> The hostility.
[01:52] <tritium> ||Okkoto||: none of that here
[01:52] <TheSHAD0W> Can I install Ubuntu on a 2 gig partition?
[01:52] <FAJALOU> drumstyk1:  you should use gksu with nautilus
[01:52] <dedal> what was wrong if this appears after boot and choose to install ubuntu 8.10???
[01:52] <addicted68098> brandom_m_pace: I don't think I do?
[01:52] <roxan> drumstyk1, i would have used gksu nautilus
[01:52] <CITguy08> TheSHAD0W: yes
[01:52] <twisted`> so far the alternate install disc seems to work
[01:52] <h4x0r> i will said is not good idea
[01:52] <roxan> dedal, ya sure
[01:52] <NBrepresent> hello, i have an external hd that mounts with the owner as root, how can i modify it to mount with my user as the owner?
[01:52] <keystr0k> I have been reading the rsync man pages and am all confused now.  I want to create an EXACT replica of a folder... as a daily backup.  How do I do this?  will just the "-a" switch do this?
[01:52] <h4x0r> ubuntu in just 2 gb
[01:52] <jdsbluedevl> hi, does anyone know anything about Dell LCD monitors?  I just bought a used one (and yes, I saw it before I bought it), and when I had issues with resolution, I started playing with the xorg.conf file, but now I'm getting a blank screen.  When I turn it on, the lamp flickers on for a second, then flickers off.  The LED is initially green, then becomes yellow.  What does this mean?
[01:52] <addicted68098> addicted68098: err, I don't think I use pulse audio, this place is a bit crazy...
[01:53] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it see the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network
[01:53] <drumstyk1> i am not sure of the difference but that gksu is giving me an error too
[01:53] <luigi> any suggest?
[01:53] <brandon_m_pace> addicted68098: go to System>preferences>sound and see what's selected
[01:53] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent: sudo chmod <username>:<username> <path to hdd>
[01:53] <helder> is it possible to put thunderbird in tray ?
[01:53] <CITguy08> TheSHAD0W: but you won't have a GUI
[01:53] <chadeldridge> jdsbluedevl:  probably that your sync settings are out of range
[01:53] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent: sudo chown <username>:<username> <path to hdd>
[01:53] <csilk> keystr0k, I want to do the same, I'm just about to start research on how the advanced features of rsync work
[01:53] <ripps> yo, what's up y'all
[01:53] <roxan> jdsbluedevl, try reconfigure x. may be you put resoluton that your monitor doesn't supports
[01:53] <Dorobo18jp> i just downloaded screenlets how do i install it ?
[01:53] <TheSHAD0W> CITguy08: It needs that much?
[01:53] <roxan> helder, yes, i do it, there is a plugin
[01:53] <Singer2> anyone have any atheros 242X 802.11abg wifi working?
[01:53] <TheSHAD0W> Hum.
[01:53] <jdsbluedevl> chadeldridge: how can I reconfigure X if I can't see anything on my monitor?
[01:54] <CITguy08> TheSHAD0W: your root partition will take up that alone if you have  a GUI
[01:54] <drumstyk1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64943/ here is my gksu nautilus errors... i would really love any advice
[01:54] <NBrepresent> FAJALOU: after running that command, the drive is still owned by root
[01:54] <chadeldridge> jdsbluedevl: hit alt -f2 ...do you get something then ?
[01:54] <roxan> jdsbluedevl, press atl+ctrl+f1, do you see the login prompt?
[01:54] <bk> quit
[01:54] <ripps> Dorobo18jb: you move them into your .screenlets directory
[01:54] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent: which one?  the last on?
[01:54] <chadeldridge> jdsbluedevl:  ctrl / alt / f2 i mean
[01:54] <jdsbluedevl> I don't even see the BIOS settings at bootup
[01:54] <TheSHAD0W> Hum.
[01:54] <NBrepresent> the chown command
[01:54] <ripps> Dorobo18jp: you move them into your .screenlets directory
[01:54] <keystr0k> csilk, I get different results with     -nav and -nauv    I have also tried to add --delete
[01:54] <roxan> jdsbluedevl, then its not problem with ubuntu. try some hardware techies
[01:54] <chadeldridge> jdsbluedevl:  not even during post ?
[01:54] <Dorobo18jp> can some one help me out i just downloaded screenlets i need to know how to install it < im a noob lol
[01:55] <NBrepresent> FAJALOU:  the chown command
[01:55] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone tell me how to connect to an IPSec VPN with Ubu 8.04 please?
[01:55] <keystr0k> csilk, if you use the -n, it'll just show you what it'll do, without doing it... makes for nice testing.  also use --stats, it's very helpful
[01:55] <jesseboi> !res
[01:55] <Singer2> okay
[01:55] <Singer2> I got wifi to work
[01:55] <roxan> Dorobo18jp, no we can't help. unles syou try to help your self
[01:55] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest??
[01:55] <jdsbluedevl> ooh, nvm, got it to work.
[01:55] <Singer2> anyone with an atheros5007 (Atheros 242X ABG) card need help?
[01:55] <jdsbluedevl> I don't know how, but I got it to work
[01:55] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent:  pastebin  ls -l ?
[01:55] <CITguy08> TheSHAD0W: if you really want to install Ubuntu on a 2GB partition, I would suggest using the server install CD and try installing a very light weight window manager later.
[01:55] <bungieQord> jtisme, if you're there, check your PM
[01:55] <jdsbluedevl> maybe I just needed to let it rest for a while
[01:56] <Dorobo18jp> im looking in an e book atm just wanted a little faster help lol
[01:56] <chadeldridge> Has anyone been able to establish a VPN connection in 8.10 ?
[01:56] <ripps> Dorobo18jp: you move them into your .screenlets directory. They should be able be able to be activated from the screenlet-manager in Applications->Accessories->Screenlets.
[01:56] <TheSHAD0W> Eh.  I have a 4 gig key I can use, wanted to use that for something else though.  Oh well.
[01:56] <dedal> roxan, sorry missed the text. Troubles after boot ubuntu 8.10 desktop cd and choose "try ubuntu ..." or "install ubuntu". text on the screen: [ ]ACPI: Aborted because invalid compressed format (err=1) ... []Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1). Need help :)
[01:56] <drumstyk1> any advice for my gksu nautilus errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/64943/
[01:56] <PassionFRUI7E> How do you fire the skydome?
[01:56] <roxan> dedal, must be bad cd
[01:56] <NBrepresent> FAJALOU: http://snipr.com/4v2wn
[01:56] <keystr0k> Does anyone know how to do an exact directory copy with rsync... it should add/delete/overwrite files in the target to match the source
[01:56] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: you mean have animated fire as your skydome image?
[01:56] <roxan> TheSHAD0W, you can use ubuntu in 1 gig key too
[01:56] <TheSHAD0W> CITguy08: Can I edit the boot config files on a live CD?
[01:57] <case^> :( totem doesn't fullscreen correctly please help
[01:57] <PassionFRUI7E> No, how do I do the skydome?  I have an image but I don't know how to run the process.
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> it's in compizconfig settings manager
[01:57] <PassionFRUI7E> Sorry, I wasn't specific.
[01:57] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest??
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> (system->preferences->advanced desktop effect settings)
[01:57] <CITguy08> TheSHAD0W: you can pass additional parameters prior to booting. I don't think you can edit the boot config on a Live CD.
[01:57] <dedal> roxan, just downloaded iso-image.
[01:57] <TheSHAD0W> Mmm.
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> look in the Desktop Cube -> appearance settings
[01:58] <WelshDragon> Has anyone had a problem with Intrepid not finding files after the upgrade?
[01:58] <NBrepresent> FAJALOU: can i pm?
[01:58] <PassionFRUI7E> I swear I installed that but I don't have advanced desktop effect settings
[01:58] <TheSHAD0W> That's what I was afraid of.
[01:58] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent:  i am guessing ipod correct?
[01:58] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm running emerald doesn't it ret?quire tha
[01:58] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent:  pM?
[01:58] <roxan> dedal, can you check the cd for defects?
[01:58] <sunil> CITguy08: Hi. I'm still unable to start the greeter.
[01:58] <NBrepresent> no, it's the OneTouch
[01:58] <FAJALOU> NBrepresent: yes
[01:58] <NBrepresent> FAJALOU: /msg
[01:58] <PassionFRUI7E> *Doesn't it require that?
[01:58] <CITguy08> sunil: any errors when reconfiguring?
[01:58] <sunil> However, I am now able to run x
[01:58] <jrib> does anyone have good documentation on hotplug?  In particular I want to setup synaptics touchpad options.  Is there a method preferred to editing /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi directly?
[01:58] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: System->Administration->Synaptic  ,  search for 'compiz'
[01:58] <sunil> yes...
[01:58] <dedal> roxan, yeah.
[01:58] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: You'll see a number of listings.. one of them is the settings manager
[01:58] <fallore> is there a way i can make a terminal start up when i boot set to the irssi profile and run the command irssi ?
[01:58] <roxan> dedal, and the md5 sum
[01:59] <sunil> CITguy08: sorry - looking for the error....
[01:59] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[01:59] <l337ingDisorder> fallore: yes
[01:59] <dr_willis> fallore,  make a script that runs somthing like 'xterm -e irssi' and make it autostart
[01:59] <fallore> dr_willis: i don't know how to make a script :/
[01:59] <l337ingDisorder> fallore: in /home/<username>/.bashrc  you can specify commands to run on login
[01:59] <case^> :( totem doesn't fullscreen correctly please help
[01:59] <roxan> drumstyk1, where are you running those commands?
[01:59] <chadeldridge> Any idea when this will make it into the upstream?  Anyone on that dev team here?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/259168
[01:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Base compiz is already iinstalled
[01:59] <PassionFRUI7E> Ah okay thank you!
[01:59] <sunil> CITguy08: Hah! Root is able to start gdm manually!
[01:59] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E:  np :)
[01:59] <keystr0k> csilk, I think this works for an exact mirror:   rsync -nav --delete --stats source target
[02:00] <mr_polite> drumstyk1: usually theme related
[02:00] <fallore> l337ingDisorder: i'm afraid i don't know how to do anything more than open up that file, lol
[02:00] <csilk> keystr0k,  yeah I'm looking to do something like that so I can keep my laptop and desktops /home folder synced
[02:00] <unitedpotsmokers> sorry i disconnected just now...
[02:00] <unitedpotsmokers> hi, good morning guys, im using hardy heron, but now i want to upgrade my system. when upgrading process started, then i got an error msg, it sounds like i have a problem with my internet connection, i repeat this upgrade twice but untill now i cannot upgrade.. what should i do? pls help
[02:00] <CITguy08> sunil: have you restarted the system since the reconfigure?
[02:00] <sunil> CITguy08: thanks for you assistance. But I've got to go back into the real world.
[02:00] <drumstyk1> roxan: not sure what you are asking, but i am putting them in the terminal so that i can have admin privs to change things such as sharing options
[02:00] <sunil> CITguy08: no. I'll give that a try.
[02:01] <CITguy08> ok, no problem. Good luck.
[02:01] <roxan> drumstyk1, you mean gnome-terminal?
[02:01] <sunil> :)
[02:01] <keystr0k> csilk, yuppers. I think you should try that... works well
[02:01] <keystr0k> csilk, rsync has SO many options huh!
[02:01] <drumstyk1> mr_polite: the only theme-ish thing i have installed is the desktop effects eye candy stuff and it has worked since then
[02:01] <l337ingDisorder> fallore: well when you figure out the command-line arguments needed to run irssi, you put that command into the .bashrc file (usually just put stuff at the bottom to have it run when the user's login process is finishing up)
[02:01] <dedal> roxan, on cd-checking it writes the same " ... kernel panic ..."; md5 sum - 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03 *ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso. What to do with md5?
[02:01] <drumstyk1> roxan: yes ubuntu hardy.... gnome right?
[02:02] <TheSHAD0W> ...It doesn't quite make sense that I can get a full GUI on a 700 MB Live CD, but I can't fit a standard install on a 2GB drive.  There's no compressed partitions?
[02:02] <roxan> drumstyk1, press alt+f2 you get a run option try there gksu nautilus
[02:02] <WillB> hey all..I have an issue with skype on ubuntu, to do with flash in firefox
[02:02] <JesperHansen> Hello. Upgraded from 8.04. The upgrade made it to the final but failed with some packages. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/565082
[02:02] <addicted68098>  brandon_m_pace: it was set simply to alsa, NOT pulse audio
[02:02] <fallore> thanks l337ingDisorder
[02:02] <q0r3> so i did the cd test in the cd boot menu, and it found no errors.  booted back into linux, it reads the drives fine, and not having the same issue as before
[02:02] <Elad-> hello... I just upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and I cant install the nvidia driver... :( I tried to install the binary package and the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80.pkg1.run but it's not working...
[02:02] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[02:02]  * RaceDrv709 is getting impatient wating for Ubuntu to upgrade
[02:02] <tritium> Elad-: use ubuntu packages.
[02:02] <decherdt> drumstyk1: I did, it seemed to resolve itself like these; http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=963060
[02:02] <roxan> dedal, was this your 3rd CD?
[02:03] <Elad-> I need some help please , anyone?
[02:03] <q0r3> i did some more googling, i found a bug that was in the release candidate that apparently, if you access the user switcher agent in the live session, it crashes.  i believe that may be why it broke last time.
[02:03] <dr_willis> fallore,  a text file with that one line.. :) easy eh?
[02:03] <decherdt> Nautilus no longer shows all of my partition, just the mounted ones, now
[02:03] <drumstyk1> roxan: no luck. i got the wait wheel and then nothing... decherdt, im checking your link out now, thanks
[02:03] <q0r3> although it's working fine now.
[02:03] <l337ingDisorder> fallore: ok here's what you'd type
[02:03] <CITguy08> q0r3: oh, ok. Yeah, i've had that happen too.
[02:03] <roxan> decherdt, isn't it suppose to do the same?
[02:04] <CITguy08> q0r3: so your data on the external drive is still there?
[02:04] <WillB> i can't get sound to work in skype after playing a flash vid in firefox..does anyone know of a solution?
[02:04] <l337ingDisorder> fallore: in .bashrc, add a line at the end that says the following: gnome-terminal -e irssi
[02:04] <brandon_m_pace> addicted68098: hmm have you tried changing stuff around to get it to work?
[02:04] <q0r3> CITguy08: good to hear.  really scary with those hard drives though.  yeah, it's still there, thank god.  don't even want to think about that.  i thought three copies was enough... guess not :\
[02:04] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[02:04] <JesperHansen> gonna try something. brb.
[02:04] <CITguy08> ok, glad i could help
[02:04] <decherdt> roxan: Before the glib error all my partitions were listed on the left, mounted or not
[02:04] <justcollapse> is anyone having trouble with wired network connections??  mine doesn't work after upgrade to intrepid
[02:04] <Akril> hi everybody :)
[02:04] <roxan> luigi, may be you have some proxy on firefox
[02:05] <Akril> I have a question for ... you :)
[02:05] <errpast> how do I burn a digital camera movie to dvd format? tovid?
[02:05] <roxan> decherdt, glib error? i dont know
[02:05] <q0r3> well, i'm off to install.  sorry for freaking out earlier :$
[02:05] <Akril> is it possible to install Ubuntu on a MAcbook pro
[02:05] <Akril> dual boot
[02:05] <dedal> roxan, i guess no, not the 3rd cd. only 1 image, burnt with nero in windows xp.
[02:05] <Akril> ?
[02:05] <CITguy08> Has anybody here SUCCESSFULLY installed/upgraded to 8.10?
[02:05] <tilde> no
[02:05] <aflack> im 2 - 5 hours away
[02:05] <PassionFRUI7E> I enabled the desktop cube, set the image, and CTR+ALT+DOWN wont work
[02:05] <q0r3> ...what?  what's wrong with it?
[02:05] <luigi> justcollapse my network hawe trouble too
[02:05] <roxan> dedal, can you first verify the md5 sub before burning and burn at lower speed again.
[02:05] <PassionFRUI7E> I have Compiz editor but not advanced window effects
[02:05] <roxan> CITguy08, since beta
[02:05] <q0r3> CITguy08: are you having issues installing?
[02:06] <roxan> PassionFRUI7E, sudo aptitude install advance-desktop-effect-settings or something like that
[02:06] <CITguy08> I'm just wondering. I've never had an upgrade complete successfully. There's always a whole snafu of configuration problems.
[02:06] <BoltClock> i need advice on whether i should upgrade from hardy to intrepid. my pc runs on an nvidia geforce7100 chipset. will i lose the driver and all my desktop effects after upgrading?
[02:06] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: are you running ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10?
[02:06] <pr0fane> i need a program to mount images. just like daemon tools in windows. can somebody recommand me a good one
[02:06] <jrib> BoltClock: try a live cd first.  You should be fine though
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> 8.10
[02:06] <Akril> is it possible to install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro with dual boot ?
[02:06] <baltazar> is it possible to get ubuntu to run from a usb flash drive even if ones bios doesn't support booting from usb devices?
[02:06]  * HorizonXP wishes the Canadian package server would speed up
[02:06] <PassionFRUI7E> running sudo aptitude install advance-desktop-effect-settings
[02:07] <PassionFRUI7E> done
[02:07] <Wicked> !iso | pr0fane
[02:07] <drumstyk1> decherdt: that thread seems to be unresolved.  his solution was to wait a few hours and try again.  i suppose i can do the same if no one has any other ideas
[02:07] <Elad-> someone installed nvidia driver on 8.10 ?
[02:07] <roxan> pr0fane, mount
[02:07] <CITguy08> pr0fane: gmountiso
[02:07] <HorizonXP> Elad-: I THINK i'm doing it right now
[02:07] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: Ahh okay it's not called advanced desktop effects, in 9.10 it's called CompizConfig Settings Manager
[02:07] <PassionFRUI7E> Does it go by a different name in 10?
[02:07] <PassionFRUI7E> Gotcha
[02:07] <PassionFRUI7E> Perfect
[02:07] <l337ingDisorder> PassionFRUI7E: (still in the system->preferences)
[02:07] <Elad-> HorizonXP, I'm trying to.. but it's not working for me :\
[02:07] <aflack> whats the intrepid ibex logo? link to image
[02:07] <errpast> anyojne use DeVeDe successfully to make DVDs of pictures and movies from a digital camera?
[02:07] <Codemaster|Mobil> okay, this is getting ridiculous now... I have TWO completely different systems receiving the same issue after updating to intrepid - "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[02:07]  * BoltClock proceeds to burn my iso now
[02:07] <q0r3> HorizonXP, Elad-, what cards do you have?
[02:07] <HorizonXP> Elad-: lemme guess, you go to Hardware Driver, hit activate, and basically, nothing happens?
[02:07] <Codemaster|Mobil> although I have been running compiz-fusion perfectly fine in Hardy!
[02:08] <Elad-> HorizonXP, FX 5200
[02:08] <HorizonXP> q0r3: geforce GO 7600
[02:08] <Codemaster|Mobil> I swear, when has Ubuntu been breaking things more than fixing them?
[02:08] <Elad-> HorizonXP, I download the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80.pkg1.run driver
[02:08] <chadeldridge> Codemaster|Mobil: what nvidia card ... did you load the 177 driver ?
[02:08] <PassionFRUI7E> Ubuntu is fixing plenty its you
[02:08] <q0r3> HorizonXP: i have the same one.  are you almost done installing?  i'd like to know what happens
[02:08] <Codemaster|Mobil> PassionFRUI7E: this is almost a new installation
[02:08] <jimminy_cricket> has anyone had a problem with 8.10 breaking x/gdm?
[02:08] <PassionFRUI7E> I just installed 8.04 2 days ago and 8.10 hours ago.
[02:08] <CITguy08> Elad-: are you trying to install the NVIDIA drivers from their website?
[02:08] <Codemaster|Mobil> chadeldridge: I have an nVidia 6600GT and a nVidia 8600 GT Mobile
[02:08] <roxan> jimminy_cricket, i did. i had to reconfigure x
[02:09] <eatablecrayon_> no, im having problems with my wifi though
[02:09] <PassionFRUI7E> I have EVERYTHING working on a 34 day old laptop model and zero linux experience
[02:09] <Codemaster|Mobil> jimminy_cricket: yup
[02:09] <chadeldridge> Codemaster|Mobil: what driver ?
[02:09] <dedal> roxan, i can. butr this messages appers in vmware workstation the same as at boot the host machine. I believe better to redownload iso-image again. How to check the md5?
[02:09] <Elad-> CITguy08, yes.. I download it from nvidia.com
[02:09] <PassionFRUI7E> No offense but I don't know why its not working for you.
[02:09] <HorizonXP> Elad-: oh, you're downloading it from Nvidia. i don't know about that. i'm using the Ubuntu 177 package. i had to update apt-get, and then it found it
[02:09] <Codemaster|Mobil> chadeldridge: I have been trying with 177
[02:09] <drumstyk1> mr_polite: are you still nearby?
[02:09] <jimminy_cricket> roxan: did you just dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[02:09] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[02:09] <q0r3> HorizonXP: what's the package called?
[02:09] <CITguy08> ok, there are a few packages you need to install for it to install correctly
[02:09] <jimminy_cricket> Codemaster|Mobil: what did you do for a fix?
[02:09] <Codemaster|Mobil> jimminy_cricket: haven't fixed it yet :|
[02:09] <roxan> !md5 | dedal
[02:09] <HorizonXP> q0r3: nvidia-glx-177
[02:09] <jimminy_cricket> crap
[02:09] <Codemaster|Mobil> in that process now
[02:09] <chadeldridge> Codemaster|Mobil: do you have it set to enabled in the restricted drivers app ?
[02:09] <roxan> jimminy_cricket, yeah.
[02:10] <eatablecrayon_> i guys, quick question, im gonna sound like a super noob but ohwell.  how do i enable wifi roaming?
[02:10] <jimminy_cricket> and it worked again?
[02:10] <l337ingDisorder> Codemaster|Mobil: this may be a silly question but have you activated the hardware drivers?
[02:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> chadeldridge: I tried apt-get install on the 177
[02:10] <Elad-> HorizonXP, Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:10] <Elad->  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-177_177.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:10] <Elad-> :S
[02:10] <l337ingDisorder> Codemaster|Mobil: system->administration->hardware drivers
[02:10] <chadeldridge> Codemaster|Mobil: go to admin / hardware drivers
[02:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> yes, this i know
[02:10] <CITguy08> Elad-: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev make
[02:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> tried it previously, but I'll try it again for kicks
[02:10] <dedal> roxan, ubottu, thanks, will do it.
[02:10] <chadeldridge> Codemaster|Mobil: what does it say by the 177 driver
[02:11] <jimminy_cricket> roxan: it worked fine after the reconfigure?
[02:11] <l337ingDisorder> Soooo... nobody in here with any tips on getting an IPSec VPN tunnel to work with ubu 8.04 eh?
[02:11] <Elad-> CITguy08, I'll try.. sec
[02:11] <brandon_m_pace> Codemaster|Mobil: 8.10?
[02:11] <roxan> jimminy_cricket, yeah
[02:11] <jimminy_cricket> :'(
[02:11] <masterjamie> Hello, I've recently updated to 8.10. Prior to that, my bluetooth mouse was working fine, now it will not pair with my adapter at all. For reference, the adapter is a Belkin F8T009 and the mouse is a Speed Link Bluetooth mouse.
[02:11] <ripps> dedal: you don't need to thank ubottu, he's a robot.
[02:11] <drumstyk1> well i haven't figured out the solution yet but i wanted to make sure and thank roxan, mr_polite, and decherdt for addressing my question. I really appreciate the tips
[02:11] <eatablecrayon_> how do i enable roaming mode in 8.10?
[02:11] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[02:12] <snova> the proprietary driver appears to be stuck. how do i kill it? the cancel button doesn't do anything.
[02:12] <Codemaster|Mobil> chadeldridge: rebooting the laptop... however, i am having an issue on another desktop that i use synergy with, so i dont have a mouse/keyboard plugged into it :|
[02:12] <Codemaster|Mobil> rather, the same issue
[02:12] <CITguy08> Elad-: http://citguy.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[02:12] <WillB> i have a problem with skype, if ayone can help
[02:12] <WelshDragon> Is there a way to roll back from Intrepid to Hardy?
[02:12] <q0r3> CITguy08: thanks, i'm saving that
[02:12] <Elad-> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-177_177.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:12] <Elad->  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libGL.so.1', which is also in package libgl1-mesa-glx
[02:12] <Pici> WelshDragon: No.
[02:13] <Elad-> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[02:13] <Elad-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:13] <Elad->  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-177_177.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:13] <aflack> damn
[02:13] <chadeldridge> WelshDragon: nope
[02:13] <dedal> ripps,  :)  first time here.
[02:13] <eatablecrayon_> im having toubles with connecting to wireless networks. how would i enable roaming mode, in 8.10?
[02:13] <fzfh> someone, i just upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 hours ago. There are 2 kernels in /boot, I alreadu edit the menu.lst ,but grub only display the lastest kernel?
[02:13] <PassionFRUI7E> How does skydome work?  My shortcut does nothing.
[02:13] <Codemaster|Mobil> Elad-: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-177_177.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb <- this will help it install, but I am unsure
[02:13] <WelshDragon> When trying to execute certain files, it's saying they don't exist. But they Do exist...How can i fix it? :d
[02:13] <WelshDragon> :s
[02:13] <PassionFRUI7E> eatablecrayon_:  Click the network icon on the topbar and select roaming mode
[02:13] <chadeldridge> WelshDragon: what kinds of files ?
[02:13] <jimminy_cricket> anyone know what to do when dpkg-reconfigure fails with 'invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed' happens?
[02:13] <WelshDragon> chadeldridge, glftpd binary
[02:13] <nekostar> hey anyone notice running gedit spikes a core up to max?
[02:14] <WillB> I have a skype/sound issue, if anyone can help me
[02:14] <Elad-> Codemaster|Mobil, Setting up nvidia-glx-177 (177.80-0ubuntu2) ...
[02:14] <Elad-> ok trying to restart gdm
[02:14] <q0r3> CITguy08: what's wrong with using the repo nvidia driver?
[02:14] <eatablecrayon_> im not seeing it. all i see is make new connection
[02:14] <Elad-> brb
[02:14] <chadeldridge> WelshDragon:  how are you trying to start the file in question ?
[02:14] <luigi> trouble with connection: pc work on lan, it ping the router, skype work, but firefox and emesene didn't catch the network... any suggest?? plssssssssssss
[02:14] <justcollapse> hmm flash likes to make my firefox hang
[02:14] <CITguy08> q0r3: I've had issues with the repo driver. I've never had any problems with the driver from NVIDIA.com
[02:14] <scientes> why does my integrated ethernet not work and my pci work at 10 half?
[02:15] <scientes> why does ubuntu suck , bought this motherboard for the gigabit eth and it doesnt work
[02:15] <q0r3> CITguy08: do you always use the latest NVIDIA driver?
[02:15] <WelshDragon> chadeldridge, Just by typing ./glftpd. It's executable. Basically inetd is now saying that it doesn't exist since i upgraded, which means i can no longer connect to it.
[02:15] <Codemaster|Mobil> yeah, im starting to be allured back to Debian.
[02:15] <Codemaster|Mobil> sadly
[02:15] <q0r3> Codemaster|Mobil: why
[02:16] <LifesaGarden> PassionFRUI7E, open the CCSM and look for the Skydome switch in DesktopCube/Appearance
[02:16] <chadeldridge> scientes: your inability to have something work that you didnt pay for does not in turn mean it sucks ... be patient and we will try to help you
[02:16] <Codemaster|Mobil> too many ubuntu upgrade issues
[02:16] <PassionFRUI7E> I got it enabled and setup.
[02:16] <errpast> Anyone use tovid or DeVeDe with success?
[02:16] <jimminy_cricket> anyone know what to do when dpkg-reconfigure fails with 'invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed' happens?
[02:16] <q0r3> Codemaster|Mobil: Debian doesn't suffer from the same issues?
[02:16] <scientes> im just fustrated that it was broken in hardy and its still broken in intrepid
[02:16] <aheckler> i cannot seem to turn off my PC speaker in Intrepid, anybody have ideas or solutions?
[02:16] <snova> what might be locking apt? i can't do anything through the command line.
[02:16] <brandon_m_pace> Codemaster|Mobil: release week is always this and the Nvidia problem is something that Nvidia has to fix
[02:16] <eatablecrayon_> the network thing in taskbar isnt showing enable roaming mode
[02:16] <Codemaster|Mobil> q0r3: i didnt have problems last time, but then again XD
[02:16] <eatablecrayon_> any ideas?
[02:16] <snova> aheckler: blacklist the pcspkr module
[02:17] <WillB> i loose sound in skype, when i have flash vids running in firefox...can anyone help me?
[02:17] <Codemaster|Mobil> brandon_m_pace: I'll keep that in mind and not update so soon next time......
[02:17] <chadeldridge> scientes: i have a few broken things as well, but the bug team will get them sorted soon, its only been live a day now issues are bound to happen ... dont you remember windows xp pre sp1 ?
[02:17] <LifesaGarden> aheckler, open the computer's cabinet and disconenct the wires?
[02:17] <snova> aheckler: add "blacklist pcspkr" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, and for now run "rmmod pcspkr" so you don't have to reboot
[02:17] <CITguy08> q0r3: well, my graphics card (GeForce FX 5700 - 64MB) is too old to use the latest driver from NVIDIA. But I have no problem with the legacy driver.
[02:17] <scientes> yeah chadeldridge pre sp1 xp kill my >137 GB hd
[02:18] <eatablecrayon_> is there a way to enable roaming mode through the Terminal?
[02:18]  * roxan is away: Excuse me.
[02:18] <chadeldridge> scientes:  what is happening with ubuntu for you I can try to help you
[02:18] <PassionFRUI7E> So how you place windows on the cube?
[02:18] <snova> PassionFRUI7E: with compiz
[02:18] <chadeldridge> !compiz | PassionFRUI7E
[02:18] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes I have everything set lol...
[02:18] <FAJALOU> hi i am using wicd, and it won't allow a wired connection.  it would be really nice to have seems how i am trying to update ubuntu, but I cannot get it to work, any thoughts?
[02:18] <scientes> well i disabled it is the bios but that still ddidnt prevent it from killing my internet
[02:18] <aheckler> snova: worked, thanks!!!
[02:18] <q0r3> eatablecrayon_: i think it depends on your card.  also, great nick.
[02:19] <eatablecrayon_> thanks
[02:19] <scientes> its the  RTL8168C, it load the wrong driver which kills ALL networking
[02:19] <Thrice> hello
[02:19] <jimminy_cricket> anyone know what to do when dpkg-reconfigure fails with 'invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed' happens?
[02:19] <scientes> and aparentally if you isable it it still will be broken
[02:19] <Thrice> anyone install intrepid ibex ?
[02:19] <Thrice> what do they think?
[02:19] <eatablecrayon_> yea
[02:19] <FAJALOU> Thrice:  workin on it...
[02:20] <Thrice> lol
[02:20] <Codemaster|Mobil> that's.... nice
[02:20] <Codemaster|Mobil> the Hardware Drivers window is empty, now
[02:20] <Thrice> you guys having problems installing packages?
[02:20]  * Codemaster|Mobil sighs
[02:20] <q0r3> Codemaster|Mobil: :(
[02:20] <scientes> if i reinstall as 64-bit can i just copy my etc folder over?
[02:20] <eatablecrayon_> its cool, but im having problems with my audio and my wireless networks
[02:20] <Thrice> like
[02:20] <Codemaster|Mobil> q0r3: yeah, it wasn't empty previously.
[02:20] <snova> scientes: probably not.
[02:20] <Thrice> what wireless hardware?
[02:20] <Thrice> atheros?
[02:20] <q0r3> Codemaster|Mobil: i'm seriously reconsidering installing 8.10
[02:20] <eatablecrayon_> yea
[02:20] <Thrice> one sec solution
[02:21] <scientes> brb
[02:21] <ethos> hi
[02:21] <q0r3> i've never heard anything bad about Debian, actually
[02:21] <WillB> hello
[02:21] <Codemaster|Mobil> q0r3: good to know im not insane
[02:21] <BBWonder> Hello folks -- I thought I had some driver trouble on my xubuntu 8.10, so I added the line driver "vesa" to my xorg.conf, but I get returned an error saying *no vesa drivers available* when I actually have xserver-xorg-video-vesa installed... any thought?
[02:21] <decherdt> had to restart hald, and Nautilus shows all partitions again
[02:21] <mynous> how can you view your nic settings in cli?
[02:21] <pr0fane> q0r3, because deban isn`t bad
[02:21] <pr0fane> debian
[02:21] <pr0fane> *
[02:21] <eatablecrayon_> its recognizes the card, and i can connect via ethernet, but it wont enable roaming mode, and wont hold a connection/make one
[02:21] <Thrice> did you try this
[02:21] <brianasdfasdf> I have a table WRITES that contains a column of authors, an author may appear in multiple rows.... how can I retrieve the values of author that are only in the table once?
[02:21] <Thrice> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[02:22] <BoltClock> jrib: im on the live cd right now and it looks pretty good. the drivers were found but im not sure if i can enable desktop effects on this live cd?
[02:22] <drew_> anyone having trouble with the intel wireless 4965 card?
[02:22] <jrib> BoltClock: you can
[02:22] <Thrice> try this for atheros wifi cards
[02:22] <Thrice> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[02:22] <Thrice> restart and it should work
[02:22] <bdizzle> hi, need some help on changing ownership of a partition I made from root to <username>. The partition shows up in the GUI, but not in CLI
[02:22] <jrib> BoltClock: they should be enabled by default actually if it detects that it can
[02:22] <jrib> bdizzle: what filesystem?
[02:22] <BoltClock> jrib: no they were not
[02:23] <jrib> BoltClock: what happens when you try?
[02:23] <danbh_intrepid> Thrice: It doesnt work well for me.  but Im using ath9k...
[02:23] <helder> how can i open pot 587 ?
[02:23] <drew_> I am having disconnect ussues and dmesg  shows the iwlagn driver instead of iwl4965
[02:23] <jrib> helder: no ports are closed by default
[02:23] <helder> i cant config gmail smtp
[02:23] <Thrice> did you try ndiswrapper ?
[02:23] <helder> in thunderbir
[02:23] <BBWonder> http://pastebin.com/m5d5f07b <-- my xorg.conf
[02:24] <BBWonder> read my question above please... :(
[02:24] <drumstyk1> is it possible to bind a commonly used terminal command to a simpler command?
[02:24] <drew_> no i did not try that.
[02:24] <jrib> drew_: alias foo='bar'
[02:24] <Codemaster|Mobil> drumstyk1: alias
[02:24] <[Si|0]> 8.10 is shite!
[02:24] <ethos> Anybody else having a slow time doing a distribution upgrade?
[02:24] <BoltClock> jrib: installed but it wants me to restart... which i cant
[02:24] <Thrice> is yours ar242x?
[02:24] <n8tuser> drumstyk1-> alias
[02:24] <jrib> oops, drumstyk1, what I said to drew_ was for you
[02:24] <[Si|0]> i upgraded, my wireless stopped working and compiz stopped working....
[02:24] <bdizzle> jrib: not sure, how do I check?
[02:24] <Thrice> lspci
[02:24] <eatablecrayon_> it is nice. now that im working on the wifi. all i need working is the speakers
[02:24] <jrib> BoltClock: heh.  You can try just restarting X
[02:24] <Codemaster|Mobil> [Si|0]: more or less that's my situation
[02:24] <Thrice> command
[02:24] <Thrice> lspci
[02:24] <drumstyk1> hmm, alias... shall i google it or synaptic it?
[02:24] <jimminy_cricket> anyone know what to do when dpkg-reconfigure fails with 'invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed' happens?
[02:25] <Thrice> gives you a list of your harwarew
[02:25] <bdizzle> I think its ext3
[02:25] <Codemaster|Mobil> jimminy_cricket: GDM failed to reload.
[02:25] <jrib> bdizzle: mount it
[02:25] <n8tuser> jimminy_cricket-> can you repeat that only every 10 minutes or so please
[02:25] <[Si|0]> Codemaster|Mobil: Im just restoring 8.04 from a backup :>
[02:25] <BoltClock> jrib: oh yeah. forgot :P
[02:25] <CVirus> What if kill -9 doesn't kill the process ?
[02:25] <homerj> what's the kernel option for the intel wifi to make the light stop blinking on activity ?
[02:25] <jrib> CVirus: reboot?
[02:25] <CVirus> no other choice ?
[02:25] <Spoom> hi folks, i was trying to run apt-p2p to get the upgrade, but i had to kill it as it was just loading for hours on end and only seemed to download two packages... now that i've switched my sources back, the update manager suggests i run a partial upgrade, which fails with the message that it doesn't support upgrading from intrepid to hardy(!), any ideas as to how i can run the upgrade fully again?
[02:25] <eatablecrayon_> be back in a bit
[02:26] <n8tuser> CVirus-> halt perhaps? but something i would not do
[02:26] <jimminy_cricket> i know it failed to reload
[02:26] <TeenySHAD0W> !install
[02:26] <jimminy_cricket> i need to know how to fix it :(
[02:26] <decherdt> drumstyk1: one guy found a bind mount issue, try mount | grep bind
[02:26] <CVirus> rebooting was never a solution
[02:26] <Thrice> hey what atheros harware did you have?
[02:26] <Pici> !who
[02:26] <n8tuser> Spoom-> you dont got from intrepid to hardy  its hardy to intrepid
[02:26] <danbh_intrepid> Spoom: maybe you could get the alternate cd, and upgrade off of that?
[02:26] <chadeldridge> jimminy_cricket: the answer to that is on the second result from a good search .. fyi
[02:26] <drumstyk1> god i love you guys... yall are so freakin helpful, thanks a ton
[02:26] <bdizzle> gah
[02:27] <KumoGone> Keyboard and Mouse arent usable at the login screen.
[02:27] <Spoom> n8tuser, yes, thank you, i thought it was an odd error message too :^)
[02:27] <outofthemadness> hello. I can't get GNOME to load, and I'm trying to figure out why. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:27] <ASrock> in ubuntu 8.10 i cant seem to enable the burn effect in my compiz config settings manager...is there any way i can get it to work?
[02:27] <nootrope> howdy, how does one edit the path environment variable in Ubuntu?
[02:27] <jrib> nootrope: for what purpose?
[02:27] <Spoom> danbh_intrepid, i don't think that would ultimately work as the update manager seems to be in a weird state right now, and won't let me do a partial upgrade at all
[02:28] <chadeldridge> jimminy_cricket:  do this :  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:28] <drumstyk1> nootrope: are you an aggie?
[02:28] <jimminy_cricket> chadeldridge: what have you searched, i can't find anything
[02:28] <n8tuser> outofthemadness-> look perhaps in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[02:28] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: are you getting any errors?
[02:28] <bdizzle> okay, so I've got four partitions on my computer, two that are NSFS (windows XP and a storage partition), and then two that are ext3 (kubuntu and one that I recently was able to reclaim 10 GB from the original vista installation files
[02:28] <BoltClock> jrib: frame rate of desktop effects appears to be a little less than was in hardy :/ but ive got them working. so from my hardy install i just upgrade from update manager, restart and im good to go?
[02:28] <masterjamie> I'm having trouble trying to pair my bluetooth mouse with my adapter in Intrepid, while it worked fine in Hardy. It's a Speed Link mouse and a Belkin Adapter.
[02:28] <nootrope> jrib, have to add an entry for django
[02:28] <Codemaster|Mobil> chadeldridge: does the -phigh do anything, really, other than elevate the process to be a higher priority?
[02:28] <danbh_intrepid> Spoom: or, you could try a quick fix, and look at your sources.lst.  Much less ideal.        No, the alternate cd has its own updater I think.  I bet it could redo the process
[02:28] <jrib> BoltClock: yep, remember you are on a live cd :)
[02:28] <jrib> nootrope: just for your user or system-wide?
[02:28] <nootrope> drumstyke1, aggie?
[02:29] <nootrope> jrib, system wide pls
[02:29] <EeveeTrainer> Hi! When I use UNetBootin to install Ubuntu to a USB flash drive, which option should I select? "8.10_NetInstall" or "8.10_NetInstall_x64" or "8.10_Live" or "8.10_Live_x64" or "Daily_Live"
[02:29] <Thrice> over time they will work out the bumps :(
[02:29] <jimminy_cricket> chadeldridge: i tried that a while ago
[02:29] <BoltClock> jrib: on hardy i enabled backports to gain access to pidgin 2.5. should i disable that before upgrading?
[02:29] <bdizzle> whenver I try to paste a file in there, it claims "access denied to /mnt/Senior_Thesis  (the name of the file I am trying to copy from my desktop for backup)
[02:29] <Spoom> danbh_intrepid, yeah, i've been looking at sources.list, they seem to be ok though... but if the alternate cd can do it i'll try that too if i can't get it working through apt-get, thanks
[02:29] <Thrice> lol
[02:29] <jrib> nootrope: edit /etc/environment
[02:29] <jimminy_cricket> it didnt fix anything
[02:29] <q0r3> HorizonXP: you there?  how'd it go?
[02:29] <chadeldridge> jimminy_cricket: go system - admin - services
[02:29] <jrib> BoltClock: update-manager will take care of it for you
[02:29] <nootrope> jrib, thanks, and for my edification, is it's only for user?
[02:29] <chadeldridge> jimminy_cricket: is GDM selected ?
[02:29] <Halo-> Is there a download mirror for Ubuntustudio anywhere?
[02:29] <jimminy_cricket> i can't... x is broken
[02:30] <jimminy_cricket> no window manager
[02:30] <drumstyk1> nvm nootrope, texas a&m students (aggies) say howdy... i was just curious if there was a fellow aggie in here
[02:30] <BoltClock> jrib: ok, and gimp 2.4 will become 2.6, and so on right?
[02:30] <nootrope> jrib, if, not is
[02:30] <jrib> nootrope: ~/.profile
[02:30] <ldiamond> I need help installing Ubuntu. I do not want to use a CD.
[02:30] <nootrope> jrib, thanks
[02:30] <robin> anyone know how to get cedega working on ubuntu 64
[02:30] <jrib> BoltClock: yep
[02:30] <juancarlos> hi, my sound card is not working after upgrading from hardy to intrepid. while booting i can see that /proc/asound/cards is not found. Also, i see 'FATAL: module ungrab_winmodem not found' and 'FATAL module slamr not found'.... any help???? please!!!
[02:30] <jrib> !install > ldiamond
[02:30] <chadeldridge> jimminy_cricket: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=700234  replace kdm with gdm and try that
[02:30] <HorizonXP> q0r3: i'm still downloading the packages.
[02:30] <ldiamond> I have tried a few things already, nothing worked
[02:30] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> then look into using  debootstrap
[02:30] <nickybatts> What is the restricted modules package called in 8.10?
[02:30] <CITguy08> Halo-: http://ubuntustudio.org/downloadshttp://ubuntustudio.org/downloads
[02:30] <HorizonXP> q0r3: it's taking forever
[02:30] <CITguy08> Halo-: http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads
[02:30] <CITguy08> sorry
[02:30] <nootrope> drumstyk1, ah, okay. strange question. do you ask that of everyone that enters this channel? ;)
[02:30] <drumstyk1> !offtopic | drumstyk1
[02:30] <outofthemadness> I can't really see any errors
[02:30] <Tetracomm> Hello. I am having major repository issues, Synaptic is taking ages to check them: http://pastebin.com/d5d790e94
[02:30] <YbeddyJ> i have a latitude 600 and i installed ubuntu daily on it two days ago..it was kinda ok ..a few ripples in the video...slow compiz..slow downs every now and then... but i got a big problem every now and then my network card would just get disabled...as in it gets totally turned off.. the connection light on the switch goes out as if the cable was unplugged funny enough the system would still say connected...usually i restart and the card would start work
[02:30] <YbeddyJ> ing again but now it no longer works. i have restarted many times but it just dont work
[02:31] <q0r3> HorizonXP:  i thought you'd already tried installing
[02:31] <n8tuser> Tetracomm-> perhaps the repository is busy..check on another day
[02:31] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: describe what you are seeing?
[02:31] <outofthemadness> it's just when I try to start in the GNOME desktop environment, it hangs at a blue screen
[02:31] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[02:31] <HorizonXP> q0r3: no, i'm getting the packages through apt right now. hasn't installed yet. when they do, i'll let you know
[02:31] <BoltClock> jrib: awesome thanks! i was worried my graphics card wouldnt be supported after i saw the release notes
[02:31] <n8tuser> outofthemadness-> dont know if this will help,   metacity  --replace
[02:31] <outofthemadness> yes I just upgraded
[02:31] <drumstyk1> nootrope: haha no, the howdy thing threw me off
[02:31] <q0r3> HorizonXP: ty
[02:31] <jimminy_cricket> chadeldridge: which post are you referring to, i have already read that thread
[02:32] <Halo-> CITguy08: It's down.
[02:32] <juancarlos> hi, my sound card is not working after upgrading from hardy to intrepid. while booting i can see that /proc/asound/cards is not found. Also, i see 'FATAL: module ungrab_winmodem not found' and 'FATAL module slamr not found'.... any help????
[02:32] <BoltClock> (i didnt know how to check using the live cd which made me feel worse)
[02:32] <eatablecrayon> jeebus mcChrist! this wireless wont connect, im using an atheros card. any idead
[02:32] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: yes I just upgraded
[02:32] <Elad-> I installed the nvidia-glx-173... the 177 is not working... but the 173 is fine
[02:32] <Sylphid> is it possible to use 2 monitors to display separate workspaces simultaneously from the same $DISPLAY
[02:32] <danbh_intrepid> eatablecrayon: what driver are you using?
[02:32] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: did you use the upgrade manager in Ubuntu?
[02:32] <eatablecrayon> whichever came with 8.10
[02:32] <nootrope> drumstyk1, i see. nah, just a recovering virginian.
[02:33] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: or fresh install?
[02:33] <djhash> anyone else having slowness upgrading to 8.10?
[02:33] <pavelk1> Does any one know to make built in microphone in Dell laptop working HELP PLZ!!!!!!!
[02:33] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: yes, from the upgrade manager
[02:33] <CITguy08> djhash: it's because the servers are clogged at the moment
[02:33] <n8tuser> djhash->  perhaps the repository is busy..check on another day
[02:33] <Thrice> ya all of them are jamed
[02:33] <Elad-> thanks for the help!
[02:34] <ldiamond> I need help installing Ubuntu. I do not want to use a CD. I tried a few things, nothing work.
[02:34] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: i am an ubuntu noob but i got my dual mons setup in twinview... is that perhaps what you need?
[02:34] <danbh_intrepid> eatablecrayon: well, they all come with 8.10.  you can use sudo lshw to check which driver.  If its ath5k or ath_pci you may want to try out the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package.  Atheros support is still in the works
[02:34] <djhash> waambulance... i have the isos and i want to try upgrading before fresh installing
[02:34] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> do you ever pay attention to my advise about debootstrap?
[02:34] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: it sounds like a gnome configuration is conflicting with the upgrade. check ~/.xsession-errors
[02:34] <ldiamond> n8tuser I have not seen your advise about debootstrap
[02:34] <nickybatts> How do I get mp3s to work?
[02:34] <YbeddyJ> i have a latitude 600 and i installed ubuntu daily on it two days ago..it was kinda ok ..a few ripples in the video...slow compiz..slow downs every now and then... but i got a big problem every now and then my network card would just get disabled...as in it gets totally turned off.. the connection light on the switch goes out as if the cable was unplugged funny enough the system would still say connected...usually i restart and the card would start work
[02:34] <YbeddyJ> ing again but now it no longer works. i have restarted many times but it just dont work
[02:34] <n8tuser> djhash-> you want a long session of troubleshooting, go ahead do an upgrade instead of a fresh install
[02:35] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: will do, checking now
[02:35] <zetacu> hi everyone i have an atheros ar5007eg wireless card and i want to use the monitor mode, i already install the madwifi drivers and works fine, but i cant change it to monitor mode does anyone knows how
[02:35] <rww> !mp3 | nickybatts
[02:35] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> then look up debootstrap  install
[02:35] <TheSHAD0W> Trying to install ubuntu onto a jump drive (full install, not live CD), the installer doesn't see the drive...  How do I go about this?
[02:36] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: check this out for dual monitors, it helped me out http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/06/18/dual-monitors-with-ubuntu/
[02:36] <J_Man> hey guys - is there a iso similar to the debian netinst image available?  I want to install ubuntu server into a vmware image on my colo box, but don't want to burn the bandwidth of downloading a whole CD there
[02:36] <TheSHAD0W> !install
[02:36] <ldiamond> n8tuser, I'm actually looking to boot the live CD from a USB Hard Drive and get the installation done from there.
[02:36] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: Should I put it on pastebin or what? What should I be looking for
[02:36] <n8tuser> TheSHAD0W-> is the drive mounted? point your install script to the mount point
[02:36] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, that will allow me to have a mirrored display so monitor0 and monitor1 are the same.... i can also run a seperate X server on both monitors however i cant seem to have seperate displays from the same X server
[02:36] <Pici> !minimal | J_Man
[02:36] <nshater> I just updated to 8.10 and my sound has stopped working anyone know how to solve this problem. All I'm hearing is crackling.
[02:36] <J_Man> perfect thanks Pici :)
[02:36] <snova> why would NetworkManager not save my settings across a reboot?
[02:36] <TheSHAD0W> How do I point the install script at it?  When I run install, it only shows the system's main drive.
[02:37] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> so? whats the problem?
[02:37] <CITguy08> yeah, put it in the pastebin
[02:37] <TexanCoyote> I can make Mexicans work in sweat shops... I can get mexicans to work in car washes... Shewt, Ah kin even git mexicans to mow lawns.... Why cain't ah git mexicans to work in ubuntu?
[02:37] <ldiamond> debootstrap seems to require a unix system already setup.
[02:37] <TexanCoyote> (rimshot)
[02:37] <n8tuser> TheSHAD0W-> is the drive mounted? mount it will you please
[02:37] <ldiamond> n8tuser unless I'm mistaken....
[02:37] <TheSHAD0W> It was mounted, yes.
[02:37] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> yes
[02:37] <TheSHAD0W> Heh.
[02:37] <TheSHAD0W> The 'puter's recharging in the other room, so I can't try it live.
[02:38] <helder> how do i add thunderbird too boot?
[02:38] <EeveeTrainer> does linux support UPS?
[02:38] <ldiamond> n8tuser yes I'm mistaken? or yes it requires a working linux system?
[02:38] <EeveeTrainer> *ubuntu linu
[02:38] <eatablecrayon> im using the ath9k driver of my atheros card
[02:38] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> it requires a working nix system
[02:38] <MarkJones> Anyone else having issues with 8.10 not downloading packages on software add/remove?
[02:38] <n8tuser> MarkJones-> plenty of people because its so busy..
[02:38] <ldiamond> n8tuser then, do you know how I can boot from a usb hard drive partition? Here's what I tried already:
[02:39] <MarkJones> oh ok i see
[02:39] <eatablecrayon> and it isnot allowing me to enable roaming mode. any ideas?
[02:39] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, i can also stretch the Xserver accross the 2 monitors
[02:39] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> setup it from the bios, high priority is your usd drive
[02:39] <Tetracomm> n8tuser: I know, but, I tried to add some repositories and it looks like I may have messed up my sources.list file, do you see anything wrong with it?: http://pastebin.com/d5d790e94
[02:39] <MarkJones> So far intrepid seems pretty good.
[02:39] <EeveeTrainer> Hi! When I use UNetBootin to install Ubuntu to a USB flash drive, which option should I select? "8.10_NetInstall" or "8.10_NetInstall_x64" or "8.10_Live" or "8.10_Live_x64" or "Daily_Live"
[02:39] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: forgive me if i am misunderstanding you but twin view gives you dual monitors where you can drag a window from one to the other but each window has its own "snapping characteristics" (such as maximizing with stretch across only 1 monitor)... xserver (i think) treats both monitors as 1
[02:40] <ldiamond> n8tuser: I have grub on my USB HDD, I added a partition where I extracted the Live CD Iso. I added the Grub menu entry, went into grub, booted from it. However, I get dropped in BusyBox and nothing else loads.
[02:40] <keystr0k> Does anyone know why my ~/.Xmodmap file doesn't get read when I log in?  I am remapping my Escape and Capslock keys, but I have to manually run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap when I log in
[02:40] <tsrk> Hi, why is the default home directory permissions set to 755?  Is there any reason it should be 755 instead of 700?
[02:40] <YbeddyJ> i have a latitude 600 and i installed ubuntu daily on it two days ago..it was kinda ok ..a few ripples in the video...slow compiz..slow downs every now and then... but i got a big problem every now and then my network card would just get disabled...as in it gets totally turned off.. the connection light on the switch goes out as if the cable was unplugged funny enough the system would still say connected...usually i restart and the card would start work
[02:40] <YbeddyJ> ing again but now it no longer works. i have restarted many times but it just dont work
[02:40] <n8tuser> Tetracomm-> quick glance, i dont see anything glaring
[02:40] <jimminy_cricket> chadeldridge: i got further than i did before but it still isnt working right
[02:40] <matt__> Any ideas why in intrepid, networkmanager disables network every time I suspend.  I have to manually re-enable it when resuming.
[02:40] <Tetracomm> Ok, thank you.
[02:40] <jimminy_cricket> chadeldridge: its giving me a login screen but once i login its doing the same thing that it was before
[02:41] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: so your main monitor would have all your menus and toolsbars and such while you secondary is treated as extra real estate
[02:41] <GodfatherofEire> Intrepid should be available via update manager, yes?
[02:41] <eatablecrayon> i guys, the atheros card i use is not connecting to networks. and i cant seem to be able to enable roaming mode. any ideas?
[02:41] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> i dont i quite follow you, you wanted the source iso to be also from same usb hard disk? i dont think thats easy to do, lest you modify the livecd iso you copied into the usb drive
[02:41] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, that is one setup that i can get to work but not what i am looking for
[02:41] <GodfatherofEire> Should intrepid be available via update manager by now?
[02:41] <snova> GodfatherofEire: yes
[02:42] <roxan> GodfatherofEire, yes
[02:42] <GodfatherofEire> I figured.
[02:42] <phanatik> Is there anyway of knowing a product will be supported in Ubuntu before buying it?
[02:42] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> but wait for a few days, servers are very busy now
[02:42] <ndotreez> how to i move GDM from S21 to S30?
[02:42] <snova> phanatik: depends on what it is. most commercial software only runs on Windows.
[02:42] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: sorry about that, i am learning
[02:42] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: http://pastebin.com/md9f07d2
[02:42] <ldiamond> n8tuser, All I'm looking to do is to boot the live CD from this USB hard drive so I can install Ubuntu on the local hard drive.
[02:42] <phanatik> so if I bought a D-link Wireless PCI Adapter, do you think it would work in Ubuntu?
[02:43] <danbh_intrepid1> hmmm, whats my name?
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> I was going to wait, but I just didnt want to start gettin my hopes up on getting my hands on it today
[02:43] <Thrice> hey eat did you type lspci in terminal?
[02:43] <roxan> ldiamond, if you make your usb bootable and then dd theni guess it would work
[02:43] <danbh_intrepid1> phanatik: whats the model number?
[02:43] <n8tuser> ldiamond if i read your statement correctly, you want to boot the liveCD yes?  but what the heck are you referring to about usb hard drive?
[02:43] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, i am looking for monitor 0 to function as normal displaying  workspace x and have monitor 2 display workspace x+1
[02:43]  * roxan is away: Excuse me.
[02:43]  * roxan is back (gone 00:00:02)
[02:43] <firelan> Hi all
[02:43] <roxan> !hi
[02:43] <Codemaster|Mobil> damn...
[02:43] <Technoviking> helli
[02:43] <firelan> I need some hlep installing ms-sys
[02:43] <Codemaster|Mobil> still nothing in the hardware drivers
[02:43] <phanatik> danbh_intrepid1: D-Link DWA-510 PCI Wireless
[02:43] <ldiamond> Roxan, that would require erasing the HDD tho.
[02:43] <Codemaster|Mobil> this is extremely frustrating
[02:44] <roxan> ldiamond, yes the USB one
[02:44] <nshater> I'm having an issue with sound after upgrading to 8.10 all I can hear is crackling, does anyone know how to fix this issue?
[02:44] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> your statement to me didnt make sense., can you clarify?
[02:44] <ldiamond> n8tuser I want to boot the Live CD ISO from a usb hard drive. (I dont want to have to burn a CD)
[02:44] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: do you have an nvidia card?
[02:44] <BoltClock> jrib: update manager spit a bunch of errors relating to finding english translations for my country and died. im in singapore
[02:44] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> you were not paying attention to what i said earlier, you have to modify the livecd iso to make it bootable from any other media other than cdrom
[02:45] <ldiamond> roxan, the USB HDD already has a NTFS partition and a Grub bootloader (and a ubuntu 8.04 install thats kinda messed up)
[02:45] <jimminy_cricket> is anyone else having problems with gdm after the upgrade??
[02:45] <Codemaster|Mobil> yes
[02:45] <ldiamond> n8tuser how so?
[02:45] <phanatik> danbh_intrepid1, did you get that?
[02:45] <roxan> then copy the iso of cd into usb boot it and mount the iso and install
[02:45] <Thrice> like what?
[02:45] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> i dont know on top of my head, please google that
[02:45] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, yes and no Im wanting this setup on a machine with nvidia and one with radeon
[02:45] <firelan> I get this error while trying to install ms-sys: E: Couldn't find package ms-sys  ... any suggestions?
[02:46] <Codemaster|Mobil> so if no drivers come up in my hardware drivers anymore, what should I do? I know I require a restricted driver.
[02:46] <FAJALOU> hi how can i use ubuntu's livecd to UPGRADE my system?
[02:46] <danbh_intrepid1> phanatik: yeah, I dunno.  I'm sure you can always use ndiswrapper, which will work, but may not work well
[02:46] <_2> where's the docs for setting up dhcpd ?
[02:46] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> you have to fool around with squashfs and some other parameters
[02:46] <roxan> firelan, this means there is no such pakage
[02:46] <Thrice> what card do you have?
[02:46] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: you can't.  You need to get the alternate cd
[02:46] <roxan> FAJALOU, you need alternate cd
[02:46] <Thrice> wifi card?
[02:46] <YbeddyJ> ubuntu killed my NIC how can i get it working again?
[02:46] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: did you have kubuntu installed prior to upgrading?
[02:46] <frank23> FAJALOU: you can't do an upgrade with a livecd
[02:46] <Codemaster|Mobil> geforce 8600 gt m
[02:46] <nshater> Any one else running ubuntu studio 8.10's theme running choppy
[02:46] <FAJALOU> :O  :(
[02:46] <FAJALOU> ok...
[02:46] <_2> YbeddyJ killed ?
[02:47] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> however, if you only listen to my first recommendation of using debootstrap , then debootstrap can use file:// to point where you livecd iso is stored on the usb drive
[02:47] <nootrope> jrib, after adding my new path to the environment variable, do i have to do anything else (maybe reboot?)?
[02:47] <techsupport> question. how to restart x ?
[02:47] <mikeh789> anybody try 8.10 on the mini-note?? I'm downloading right now.
[02:47] <BoltClock> techsupport: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:47] <firelan> thanks roxan: if I try to download the tar and compile I get errors too
[02:47] <YbeddyJ> _2 yes it no longer even shows up in lspci
[02:47] <turtle_> Is II safe to install?
[02:47] <roxan> firelan, must be library issue
[02:48] <storrgie> anyone know how to force evolution to use a socks proxy
[02:48] <storrgie> anyone know how to force evolution to use a socks proxy?
[02:48] <Thrice> crtl alt back
[02:48] <Thrice> to restart x
[02:48] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> oh wait you dont have linux installed..i forget
[02:48] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: what i ended up doing with my nvidia card was to ditch the ubuntu drivers and grab "NVIDIA X Server Settings"... you probably are way ahead of me but this gives me the option to configure in "Seperate X Screen" mode, giving each monitor its own toolbars as if it were 2 pc's
[02:48] <turtle_> Interpid 64 working good?
[02:48] <zetacu> hi everyone i have an atheros ar5007eg wireless card and i want to use the monitor mode, i already install the madwifi drivers and works fine, but i cant change it to monitor mode does anyone knows how
[02:48] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1: do you think it's ok to update via alternate cd?  seems how it's really slow upgrading the other way?
[02:48] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, yup already running that
[02:49] <jimminy_cricket> how do i check if x is pointing to gdm?
[02:49] <ldiamond> n8tuser, well, I do have a linux installed somewhere.
[02:49] <ndotreez> how do i change a runlevel from S13 to S30?
[02:49] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: sudo dpkg-reconfigur -aphigh xserver-xorg
[02:49] <firelan> roxan: should I try an earlier version of ms-sys ? (http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/)
[02:49] <CITguy08> * sudo dpkg-reconfigure -aphigh xserver-xorg
[02:49] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> then that system can install from the iso copied to its hard disk
[02:49] <tibxc3> lol... right now Bill Gates is attending a glass art auction in seattle
[02:49] <justcollapse> anyone know why i can't mount a usb sdcard reader ????
[02:49] <tibxc3> watch him live right now >> http://www.auctionnetwork.com
[02:49] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: well, if you want to upgrade, I actually think using the alternate cd is ideal.  The servers are getting hammered, and you can just use a torrent to get the cd
[02:49] <roxan> firelan, no you must install the required library. btw what error do you get?
[02:49] <Flannel> tibxc3: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[02:49] <tritium> tibxc3: please stay on topic.
[02:49] <frank23> FAJALOU: using an alternate CD to upgrade will probably work only if you haven't installed any new programs. I never really tried it though
[02:50] <drumstyk1> Sylphid: bummer, i was hoping that was the magic answer.  that is where my experience ends, sry about that
[02:50] <jrib> nootrope: yeah, log out and back in
[02:50] <nootrope> thanks, jrib
[02:50] <Sylphid> drumstyk1, np.. thanks for the time
[02:50] <phanatik> I can't watch him
[02:50] <firelan> roxan: one sec let me try to compile again
[02:50] <jrib> BoltClock: pastebin errors, I'm not familuar with taht
[02:50] <phanatik> Internet Explorer has crashed :P
[02:50] <jimminy_cricket> how do i check if x is pointing to gdm?
[02:50] <gnutronic> justcollapse: install package usbmount. that worked for me. in hardy
[02:50]  * BoltClock runs update manager again
[02:50] <turtle_> to upgrade you mean
[02:50] <ndotreez> how do i use update-rc.d to change gdm from S13 to S30?
[02:50] <justcollapse> gnutronic: will try thx
[02:51] <Joelito> I like Intrepid..good and updated software :)
[02:51] <CITguy08> outofthemadness: It seems that the configuration cannot find your keyboard mapping. Just execute that command. It will reconfigure your xserver settings, but may take a while.
[02:51] <Sylphid> jimminy_cricket, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:51] <_2> jimminy_cricket "check if x is pointing to gdm?"  ???   x is not "pointing to gdm"
[02:51] <phixxor> hey, I'm trying to do cdromupgrade but it always tries to download all the packages from the server instead. How can I find out what is going wrong?
[02:51] <jrib> ndotreez: why not use mv?
[02:51] <cowbud> grr there was a program that let you compile back ports from other distros i.e. for dapper compile hardy ones anyone recall what that was called?
[02:52] <YbeddyJ> _2, do you have any idea how i could get my nic working again?
[02:52] <Flannel> !prevu | cowbud
[02:52] <cowbud> what what
[02:52] <ndotreez> jrib: i can move it, but i am afraid it will screw something up if i need to change it later. is it okay to do it that way?
[02:52] <cowbud> and flannel comes in, thanks!
[02:52] <danbh_intrepid1> phixxor: doesnt it ask if you want to use the servers?
[02:52] <_2> YbeddyJ modprobe
[02:52] <bahadunn> in intrepid when I click on places > home folder totem opens instead
[02:52] <CITguy08> phixxor: set your software sources to point to the cd rom
[02:52] <ldiamond> n8tuser, however, as I said earlier, I managed to boot alfway to the live CD already. It failed somewhere and dropped me in BusyBox. Is there a way I could fix that?
[02:52] <KumoGone> My keyboard and mose don't work.
[02:52] <bahadunn> anyone having similar problems?
[02:52] <phixxor> danbh_intrepid1, yes, and I answer no, but it downloads anyway
[02:52] <KumoGone> *mouse
[02:52] <CITguy08> KumoGone: are they USB?
[02:52] <KumoGone> No
[02:52] <KumoGone> laptop
[02:53] <CITguy08> strange
[02:53] <phixxor> CITGuy08, ok I'll try
[02:53] <supersoft> hi all
[02:53] <gnutronic> phixxor: go to synaptic repositories and choose cdrom instead of mirrors.
[02:53] <xorlim> supersoft: hi
[02:53] <outofthemadness> CITguy08: thanks a lot . I will see if this fixes things
[02:53] <KumoGone> It seems to be a xorg problem
[02:53] <danbh_intrepid1> phixxor: weird.  Maybe you can try just disabling those servers in your sources
[02:53] <jrib> ndotreez: don't see why not
[02:53] <ndotreez> jrib: thank you very much
[02:53] <_2> YbeddyJ inserting the correct kernel module (aka driver) should "get it working again"   modprobe is the command to insert or remove modules
[02:53] <JesperHansen> gah!! Someone please provide /usr/share/gconf/schemas/control-center.schemas
[02:53] <CITguy08> KumoGone: does it work for a live cd session?
[02:53] <KumoGone> But as I cant log in, I'm reduced to trying to fix it form the command line.
[02:53] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  running the livecd right now, i have a wificard (Atheros AR5416), and it says that it is connected, but the light that shows it as connected is not on more precisely it is flashing...
[02:53] <KumoGone> Haven't tried that.
[02:53] <KumoGone> Upgraded from the update manager
[02:53] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: is it working?
[02:53] <CITguy08> KumoGone: you can use your keyboard on command line?
[02:53] <fallore> i need some help. i'm trying to get firefox to automatically open torrent files with deluge, but i have no idea how to navigate to deluge and tell it to use it
[02:54] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  i don't think so...
[02:54] <KumoGone> Yes
[02:54] <ldiamond> n8tuser, can I pm you?
[02:54] <CITguy08> KumoGone: sudo dpkg-reconfigur -aphigh xserver-xorg
[02:54] <YbeddyJ> _2, yes i know of modprobe but wouldnt it still be listed in lspci once its being detected in the system?
[02:54] <CITguy08> ﻿sudo dpkg-reconfigure -aphigh xserver-xorg
[02:54] <supersoft> hey can i get some tech help please
[02:54] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  nope it's not:  even though it says it's connected; i pinged google, 100% packet loss
[02:54] <Dorobo18jp> anyone using clearweather screenlet ? i need help not getting any info on it at all
[02:54] <supersoft> i have lost my task bars and i cant get em back
[02:54] <BoltClock> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64966
[02:54] <Codemaster|Mobil> so i also am getting issues with module "type1" - how can i install this module and why wasn't it installed during the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[02:55] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: can you dig google?
[02:55] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  iwconfig shows that it is connected however...
[02:55] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  dig?
[02:55] <jrib> BoltClock: use a different mirror
[02:55] <KumoGone> command not found
[02:55] <BoltClock> jrib: set it in software sources?
[02:55] <jrib> BoltClock: sure
[02:55] <WDC> Hey hey. I'm having an X issue. Wasn't there 5 minutes ago, and yes I just upgraded to 8.10 10 minutes ago. (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[02:55] <d0wn> has anyone else gotten stuck in the network update at a message saying "Regenerating fonts cache..."?
[02:55] <KumoGone> And I'm already root.
[02:55] <tibxc3> lol... right now Bill Gates is attending a glass art auction in seattle -- watch him live right now >> http://www.auctionnetwork.com
[02:56] <Codemaster|Mobil> kick tibxc3, he's just a bot
[02:56] <YbeddyJ> my laptop is a dell latitude d600 with a broadcomm gigabit ethernet controller but it no longer listed when i tye lspci...i see all other devices though
[02:56] <frank23> d0wn: that can take a long time....
[02:56] <YbeddyJ> _2, my laptop is a dell latitude d600 with a broadcomm gigabit ethernet controller but it no longer listed when i tye lspci...i see all other devices though
[02:56] <JesperHansen> Could someone provide me a copy of their /usr/share/gconf/schemas/control-center.schemas so I can get on with this f*cking annoyance
[02:56] <FAJALOU> !spam
[02:56] <d0wn> frank23: i've been at this message for about 20 minutes now
[02:56] <CITguy08> KumoGone: dpkg-reconfigure -aphigh xserver-xorg (I misspelled it last time.)
[02:57] <phixxor> danbh_intrepid1, I disabled the official mirrors -- it looks like it's pulling packages from the cd image now
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: yes, dig.  You know, atheros support is still "teething" so to speak.  I think there are fixes on the way.  What driver are you using?
[02:57] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  i am installing linux-backports-modules-intrepid-modules
[02:57] <morrty> Have a quick question for anyone, how do I install VI Improved?  /sudo apt-get install vim"
[02:57] <Thrice> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[02:57] <Dorobo18jp> anyone using clear weather screenlet i cant get it working i put in the area code from weather.com and nothing have any ideas
[02:57] <frank23> d0wn: yeah that doesn't sound right
[02:57] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  ummm right now... i dunno.
[02:57] <morrty> isnt working
[02:57] <Thrice> us that for atheros it works for some
[02:57] <xorlim> is it worth it getting 8.10 to replace 8.04?
[02:57] <KumoGone> Got it
[02:57] <KumoGone> Seems to be doing something.
[02:57] <CITguy08> KumoGone: just follow the prompts
[02:57]  * Kumo isn't gone
[02:57] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  google:  comes back with some information...
[02:58] <d0wn> frank23: anything you recommend me to do?
[02:58] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: yeah, thats worth a shot.  Though, the end is -generic, not -modules
[02:58] <frank23> d0wn: I don't really knwo
[02:58] <FAJALOU> hardware drivers is still empty...
[02:58] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: does it list some servers and their ips?
[02:58] <Spoom> apt-get dist-upgrade seems to be working, so hopefully that will fix my update-manager woes, is there anything special i need to do after an apt-get dist-upgrade that upgrade-manager usually does?
[02:58] <_2> morrty apt-cache search ^vi
[02:58] <morrty> ty
[02:58] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1: servers and ips yes
[02:59] <Flannel> Spoom: You need to do some stuff beforehand.  But afterwards, no.
[02:59] <danbh_intrepid1> Spoom: try the cruft cleaner
[02:59] <Spoom> i manually updated all the sources first
[02:59] <jrib> morrty: what happens when you try 'sudo apt-get install vim"?
[03:00] <BoltClock> jrib: not working
[03:00] <Flannel> Spoom: That's not the important part for a successful upgrade.  Proper metapackage (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and your kernel metapackage) installation makes it a lot happier
[03:00]  * BoltClock tries again
[03:00] <_2> morrty might try sudo apt-get install vim-full
[03:00] <morrty> jrib: says not found or something, but I just tried apt-get cache search ^vi then i did apt-get isntall vim-full
[03:00] <morrty> yep thanks _2
[03:00] <tissot> hi
[03:00] <Flannel> morrty, _2: vim-full installs gvim too, "vim" is the package for just the console stuff
[03:00] <morrty> working now
[03:00]  * BoltClock wonders if he has missed anything
[03:00] <q0r3> at first, the installer gave me the option to resize my ntfs partition.  but it vanished.  does that mean i can't do it?
[03:00] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1: servers and ips yes
[03:01] <q0r3> i defragmented it already
[03:01]  * roxan is away: Excuse me.
[03:01] <jrib> !away > roxan
[03:01] <morrty> no idea what gvim is haha
[03:01] <morrty> oh well
[03:01] <Flannel> morrty: vim with a GTK frontend
[03:01] <Spoom> Flannel, well, it was partially working through upgrade-manager before but i had to kill it as i mentioned above, so that may have already been done... if not, can / should i just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop etc?
[03:01] <xorlim> I never used gvim either
[03:01] <Sjaki`> Hi guys - I make install a large amount of compiled files, which put about 100 files all over my file system, now I want to remove them
[03:01] <Sjaki`> Is there an easy way
[03:01] <xorlim> I try to use pure X11 or pure console stuff
[03:01] <_2> Flannel he said that apt-get install vim was failing
[03:01] <Cellwind929> I am trying to do an 8.10 install, when I go to do the live cd install, i get a black screen and a pointer i can move, i do not know how to get it to work correctrly
[03:01] <supersoft> how do i change my name
[03:01] <arquebus> !restricted
[03:01] <Codemaster|Mobil> apt-get -f install
[03:01] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: well, I think that means dns is working
[03:01] <nosklo> Sjaki`, make uninstall
[03:02] <Wavesonics> I'm having trouble with the server CD install, It gets to installing LILO but then says it couldn't activate the drive (installing to MBR)
[03:02] <Sjaki`> ok, thanks i'll try that nosklo
[03:02] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  i can get onto 192.168.1.1
[03:02] <KumoGone> Okay, I keep getting a bunch of unknow media type errors
[03:02] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  which is my wifi router
[03:02] <morrty> Thanks for the help everyone, got it installed.
[03:02] <luigi> how to unlock networkmanager in ibex???
[03:02] <_2> welcome morrty
[03:02] <KumoGone> Not its configuring Console Data
[03:02] <sanguisdex> any one else have their video play back go all flickery after the upgrade?
[03:02] <bibi_1> When I upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 the data on my computer will be preserved, right?
[03:03] <Sjaki`> nosklo you are a lifesaver!
[03:03] <vocx> Wavesonics, lilo? why not grub?
[03:03] <hosk> my wireless stopped working after an upgrade to 8.10, ifconfig/iwconfig shows it as active and connected to a router, and having an ip address, but i can't ping anything and i can't use get to the internet
[03:03] <Sjaki`> it's muchly appreciated
[03:03] <sanguisdex> bibi_1: you should back up
[03:03] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: hmmm, that sounds like a working net connection.  Doesn't make sense that you would have trouble connecting to the internet
[03:03] <sanguisdex> just in case
[03:03] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  what is a relatively small site that i can visit?
[03:03] <bibi_1> sanguisdex: thanks.
[03:03] <Sorcererbob> www.google.com ?
[03:03] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble installing Ibex on another machine of mine. While succesful on my primary machine, it'll install fine up until I believe the "Creating User" phase or whatever step is after it... crash, and then the X server of the LiveCD too will crash, saying the display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds. Need help.
[03:03] <Meshezabeel> I was hoping ubuntu was going to be released tomorrow :(
[03:04] <vocx> Sjaki`, "make uninstall" not always work so beware.
[03:04] <q0r3> alright now the installer can't see any of my partitions
[03:04] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  what do you think?
[03:04] <Flannel> !checkinstall | Sjaki`
[03:04] <geremy> having a bit of trouble, intrepid seems to stall during login, it is not consuming much in the way of system resources and is not spewing to dmesg. mouse still moves, just no desktop
[03:04] <Flannel> Sjaki`: In the future, use checkinstall, or find a deb
[03:04] <Sjaki`> So now that I have uninstalled
[03:04] <Sjaki`> Should I checkinstall?
[03:05] <danbh_intrepid1> FAJALOU: I would try google.  Maybe try visiting one of the ips from the dig command, instead of using www.google.com.  Maybe try wget instead of FF
[03:05] <ldiamond> Anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu 8.10 using no CD/DVD? (using a USB HDD or Flash drive)
[03:05] <FAJALOU> danbh_intrepid1:  trying sudo apt-get update from livecd. it's hitting...
[03:06] <Aeonis> evening all.  Anyone able to help me install VMWare?
[03:06] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble installing Ibex on another machine of mine. While succesful on my primary machine, it'll install fine up until I believe the "Creating User" phase or whatever step is after it... crash, and then the X server of the LiveCD too will crash, saying the display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds. Need help.
[03:06] <Aeonis> I have the tar and I did a tar -zcf???
[03:06] <Aeonis> I think.
[03:06] <danbh_intrepid1> well, I gota get some sleep.  cya FAJALOU et al
[03:06] <Sjaki`> ldiamond - I had a tough time because my CD Drive broke. I tried doing alternative things - it depends on your computers boot menu ability really. If it can read from USB at boot, or read from a network drive at boot you might be able to manage it
[03:06] <ericjung> how can i find which ubuntu version i'm currently running?
[03:06] <arquebus> how do I install restricted codecs? ubuntu-restricted-extras doesnt seem to work on intrepid
[03:06] <FAJALOU> :( ok
[03:06] <FAJALOU> ...
[03:06] <_2> Aeonis -c is create
[03:06] <Aeonis> It wasn't that then...
[03:06] <jaco> hi guys
[03:06] <Thayle> Would an install cd really not work right just because I burned it at maximum write speed?
[03:07] <ldiamond> Sjaki` can I pm you?
[03:07] <BoltClock> jrib: nope, not working, still spits the same errors
[03:07] <Sjaki`> ldiamond sure
[03:07] <Aeonis> I can't remmeber what it was, but I have it extracted and then I have this folder.
[03:07] <vocx> Aeonis, there is a dedicated subforum about virtualization in ubuntuforums.org, also you may try using virtualbox since it's easier to install and use.
[03:07] <FAJALOU> running the livecd right now, i have a wificard (Atheros AR5416), and it says that it is connected, but the light that shows it as connected is not on more precisely it is flashing...
[03:07] <Flannel> arquebus: It should.  It only recommends things though: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:07] <Aeonis> I would agree vocx, but I'm taking training from a guy who told me to install VMWare.
[03:07] <arquebus> Flannel-ok, thx
[03:07] <jrib> BoltClock: I have to leave now.  Not sure what you could try immediately.  Ask the channel and include your pastebin.  Good luck
[03:07] <BoltClock> jrib: ok
[03:08] <kris_> I setup a svn server using apache2 + dav_svn, but I want to require /svn to be ssl only -- any ideas?
[03:08] <Aeonis> I have Virtualbox on my primary computer and this laptop, I want to make what he says so I can learn.
[03:08] <KumoGone> Okay, that didn't work.
[03:08] <supersoft> hello
[03:08] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble installing Ibex on another machine of mine. While succesful on my primary machine, it'll install fine up until I believe the "Creating User" phase or whatever step is after it... crash, and then the X server of the LiveCD too will crash, saying the display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds. Need help.
[03:08] <bibi_1> sanguisdex: will upgrade keep all my extra packages? or will I have to reinstall them manually later?
[03:08] <mrpockets> okay dudes
[03:08] <mrpockets> ive got one fo ryou
[03:08] <BoltClock> im in singapore, trying to upgrade hardy to intrepid but update manager dies with the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64966, what should i do?
[03:08] <CITguy08> KumoGone: okay, so you still cannot use your keyboard or mouse?
[03:08] <Thayle> Could getting the error: "iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_SCAN_ABORT_CMD: time out after 500ms."  when trying to install be because I burned the disc at maximum write speed?
[03:08] <h4x0r> boltclock do you have you computer connect to a network
[03:09] <KumoGone> I can get to the console
[03:09] <jaco> can someone pls point me to the appropriate forum 4 ubuntu on mac
[03:09] <BoltClock> h4x0r: yes
[03:09] <KumoGone> from the login screen with ctrl-alt-F2
[03:09] <jaco> ?
[03:09] <_2> Aeonis you will need build-essential installed and you'll need to follow the instructions in the extraction dir   read anything in all caps
[03:09] <vocx> Aeonis, oh, well, in that case, it shouldn't be that hard. I guess you need to extract the tar and run "make" to compile the thing, but need to get the dependencies first. You should read the forum I mentioned, there is probably a guide already
[03:09] <h4x0r> you know the network mananger change in intrepid?
[03:09] <Flannel> jaco: what kind of mac?
[03:09] <BoltClock> h4x0r: hmm no :/
[03:09] <jaco> MacBook Pro
[03:09] <CITguy08> KumoGone: but you cannot type your login?
[03:09] <Flannel> jaco: A recent one?
[03:09] <Flannel> !dualboot | jaco
[03:09] <jaco> single
[03:09] <h4x0r> network mananger 7
[03:09] <KumoGone> Not at the splash screen
[03:10] <CITguy08> KumoGone: try rebooting, see what happens
[03:10] <h4x0r> do you share some files with windows plataform?//
[03:10] <BoltClock> h4x0r: hmm how might that be related to the errors?
[03:10] <h4x0r> what error you are having>
[03:10] <BoltClock> my windows install is on a totally different disk
[03:10] <jaco> brb
[03:10] <ericjung> upgradingg to 8.10, i get  "Replace the customized configuration file 'etc/cups/cupsd.conf" ... should I answer yes orno?
[03:11] <Flannel> ericjung: What did you modify in that file?
[03:11] <KumoGone> Okay, rebooting.
[03:11] <BoltClock> h4x0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64966
[03:11] <h4x0r> you kernel is going to change
[03:11] <ericjung> Flannel: nothing but I do have a printer defined
[03:11] <CITguy08> ericjung: have you installed printers on 8.04?
[03:11] <ericjung> CITguy08: yes !
[03:11] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble installing Ibex on another machine of mine. While succesful on my primary machine, it'll install fine up until I believe the "Creating User" phase or whatever step is after it... crash, and then the X server of the LiveCD too will crash, saying the display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds. Need help.
[03:11] <Vile> is  there a reason why mount.ntfs-3g is using alot of cpu?
[03:11] <CITguy08> ericjung: I'd keep it
[03:11] <h4x0r> you should have know kernel 6.24.21
[03:11] <KumoGone> The loading screen has two bars.  Well, 1 and a half.
[03:12] <geremy> having a bit of trouble, intrepid seems to stall during login, it is not consuming much in the way of system resources and is not spewing to dmesg. mouse still moves, just no desktop
[03:12] <h4x0r> if you going to update from ubuntu 8.4 you should go to the terminal and
[03:12] <h4x0r> sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <JesperHansen> I need the file /usr/share/gconf/schemas/control-center.schemas to recover my else screwed up ubuntu upgrade.
[03:12] <Cellwind929> i am having similar issues as geremy
[03:12] <CITguy08> KumoGone: press ALT+F1
[03:12] <CITguy08> KumoGone: let me know if anything fails
[03:12] <geremy> Cellwind929: what kind of hw are you running?
[03:13] <Cellwind929> geremy: p4 intel board, onboard graphics
[03:13] <geremy> Cellwind929: atom intel board, onboard
[03:13] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble installing Ibex on another machine of mine. While succesful on my primary machine, it'll install fine up until I believe the "Creating User" phase or whatever step is after it... crash, and then the X server of the LiveCD too will crash, saying the display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds. Need help.
[03:13] <geremy> Cellwind929: install from usb, cd, or upgrade?
[03:13] <KumoGone> I'm at a terminal login.
[03:13] <CITguy08> YaroMan86: did you check your CD for defects?
[03:13] <Cellwind929> geremy: something with the intel drivers is stalling out x. cd install
[03:14] <lukman> tes
[03:14] <geremy> Cellwind929: I dont know, the mouse still moves
[03:14] <h4x0r> but i think today or tomorrow ubuntu 8.10 "intrepid" goes out completed. not as a beta
[03:14] <YaroMan86> CITguy08: Yes, I did,
[03:14] <CITguy08> KumoGone: are messages passing by or do you have the login?
[03:14] <Cellwind929> geremy: same with me
[03:14] <Flannel> h4x0r: It was released bout 12 hours ago.
[03:14] <KumoGone> Login
[03:14] <CITguy08> YaroMan86: I'd try installing using the alternate install disc
[03:14] <supersoft> bye bye
[03:14] <lukman> hallo...
[03:14] <geremy> Cellwind929: hmm
[03:14] <Cellwind929> geremy: i can boot into safe graphics mode, but 640x480 is so hilariously small i cannot install off it
[03:14] <Blog_Novak> Hi I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 today and the wireless is going really, really slowly.  Does anybody have a fix for this?
[03:14] <h4x0r> ok. i was running the beta for a while and sent some feedback to the ubuntu community
[03:14] <YaroMan86> CITguy08: I'm on my way to download the ISO
[03:14] <CITguy08> KumoGone: press CTRL+ALT+F7
[03:14] <vocx> I don't like being pessimistic but the "release notes" about the new distro are extremely long, I don't remember seeing as much issues with a new release. Usually there were a few "this doesn't work", but now there are lots of issues mentioned.
[03:14] <_2> oh.   release day... no wonder!
[03:15] <geremy> Cellwind929: do you have trouble with the live environment?
[03:15] <Flannel> h4x0r: All you have to do is regular updates, and you'll get the final version.
[03:15] <n8tuser> Blog_Novak-> slowly? how did you measure such?
[03:15] <h4x0r> nope
[03:15] <Cellwind929> geremy: i cant get to the live ubuntu off the cd
[03:15] <KumoGone> Okay, splash screen.  Still no mouse and keyboard
[03:15] <CITguy08> YaroMan86: It seems like your machine is having trouble with the live cd GUI, so the alternate install will allow you to install without the gui.
[03:15] <Blog_Novak> Well when I was running vista on this laptop I usually get about 500 kb/s to 1 mb/s downloading
[03:15] <Flannel> vocx: There are more known issues with workarounds at release.  This channel is actually less busy than previous releases.
[03:15] <Blog_Novak> now with ubuntu I get about 1 kb/s
[03:15] <Cellwind929> geremy:  i can do the install buntu, but the try ubuntu without changing your comp option doesnt work
[03:15] <Blog_Novak> it's a bit of a difference
[03:15] <n8tuser> !who | Blog_Novak
[03:15] <h4x0r> if you just run your update manager you will update the kernel that you have install
[03:16] <CITguy08> KumoGone: which splash screen?
[03:16] <adam> can anyone tell me why my nvidia-settings arent saving to my X config properly
[03:16] <Flannel> Cellwind929: you mean wubi?  Installing it from within windows?
[03:16] <vocx> Flannel, yes, feels weird, kinda
[03:16] <KumoGone> Login splash
[03:16] <geremy> Cellwind929: I didn't bother, I just installed...
[03:16] <Cellwind929> flannel: no, installing it off a fresh cd
[03:16] <n8tuser> Blog_Novak-> did you also compare the mode you are connected to the AP? A? B? G?
[03:16] <CITguy08> KumoGone: so it shows the login prompt?
[03:16] <h4x0r> if you want to update ubuntu 8:4 to intrepid you have to go to the terminal and sudo apt-get update
[03:16] <Cellwind929> geremy: yaeh, i wanted to try it to make sure it worked
[03:16] <KumoGone> Yes
[03:16] <h4x0r> i love my hardy 8.4
[03:16] <Flannel> Cellwind929: Oh, You mean just the liveCD itself.  The ubiquity installer runs fine, but the live environment doesn't?
[03:17] <Blog_Novak> n8tuser does it say somewhere in ifconfig which mode it's using?
[03:17] <mynous> is there a network monitor like htop?
[03:17] <geremy> Cellwind929: sounds like an x issue though, you're right
[03:17] <Flannel> h4x0r: please keep it on topic, and don't give out marginal information, thanks.
[03:17] <Blog_Novak> n8tuser i just assumed it should attempt to use G first
[03:17] <CITguy08> KumoGone: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[03:17] <KumoGone> Uhhhh....
[03:17] <Cellwind929> Flannel: correct, me and geremy having issues with it, black screen starts with a pointer arrow that we can move, but it doesnt boot anything else
[03:17] <KumoGone> What?
[03:17] <n8tuser> Blog_Novak-> i dont think so, but you have to use iwlist
[03:17] <geremy> Cellwind929: too bad my favorite intel dude just went to sleep
[03:17] <h4x0r> ok
[03:17]  * YaroMan86 shall help people while he waits for the download of the ISO.
[03:17] <Guest35443> can anyone help me?
[03:17] <Guest35443> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964327
[03:17] <Cellwind929> geremy: bummer
[03:17] <twisted`> oh guys, I love the new ubuntu
[03:17] <geremy> Cellwind929: bummer indeed
[03:18] <h4x0r> guest35 whats your problem
[03:18] <Flannel> Cellwind929: interesting.  You get a pointer arrow? or pointer X?
[03:18] <attonbitusira> @twisted: first thoughts, whats better?
[03:18] <CITguy08> KumoGone: in a command prompt, enter that command
[03:18] <Guest35443> i cant get my external monitor working properly with the new nvidia drivers
[03:18] <twisted`> I click remote display, and I goto my mac, download chicken of the vnc, it sees the vnc on the ubuntu machine, and double click, and voila!
[03:18] <twisted`> sweeet
[03:18] <Cellwind929> Flannel: the regular arrow, the one that you move with your mouse, and thats chillin' on a black background. nothign else
[03:18] <Blog_Novak> n8tuser okay I'll check it out and see if it gives me any clues, thanks.
[03:18] <h4x0r> ifconfig and device
[03:18] <Cellwind929> geremy: safe mode boots, but 640x480 is useless
[03:18] <Aeonis> I'm trying that forum post out.  I'm trying to do this script:  sudo apt-get install psmisc libxrender1 libxt6 build-essentials linux-headers-`uname -r` links2 openssh-server
[03:18] <Aeonis> It keeps saying that it couldn't find the package.
[03:19] <Guest35443> ifconfig?
[03:19] <Guest35443> why
[03:19] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> which package it could not find?
[03:19] <ericjung> icanhackburger?
[03:19] <Flannel> Cellwind929: Odd.  Oh.  Lets... get creative.  Do you mind rebooting, choosing the "Install" option (to get to ubiquity) and then hitting cancel from the installer?  It boots the rest of the way.  see if that gets around whatever the issue is.
[03:19] <h4x0r> if you need help with ifconfig. type in the terminal  ifconfig --help
[03:19] <ericjung> JesperHansen: icanhackburger?
[03:19] <geremy> flannel: I'm having what sounds like a similar issue
[03:19] <attonbitusira> cool
[03:19] <Aeonis> "build-essentials"
[03:19] <Guest35443> i dont need help with ifconfig
[03:19] <geremy> Cellwind929: do you get through the GDM login?
[03:19] <ericjung> Guest35443: you do !
[03:19] <pur-angst> Hello
[03:19] <Flannel> h4x0r: Please stop.
[03:19] <Cellwind929> geremy: didnt install, trying the live cd
[03:19] <_2> Aeonis not plural    build-essential
[03:19] <Cellwind929> Flanel: trying it now
[03:20] <wbmj> Aenis: build-essential not essentials
[03:20] <Guest35443> my monitor has nothing to do with ifconfig
[03:20] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> for 8.10?
[03:20] <Cellwind929> Flanel: on a laptop so its a seperate rig
[03:20] <geremy> Cellwind929: when you get the arrow, can you crtl+alt+bkspc
[03:20] <pur-angst> unsure
[03:20] <Cellwind929> geremy: no
[03:20] <JesperHansen> The /usr/share/gconf/schemas/control-center.schemas is provided by capplets-data, but a reinstall doesn't fix it. It just complains
[03:20] <geremy> Cellwind929: then we may have different issues
[03:20] <Cellwind929> geremy possibly
[03:20] <Aeonis> n8tuser:  8.04
[03:20] <Aeonis> _2:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943036&highlight=vmware  It called for "build-essentials".  I take the "s" off and it's working.
[03:20] <h4x0r> sorry
[03:21] <Guest35443> after i installed the new nvidia drivers, i can't choose my external display throught monitor resolution settings
[03:21] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> see what others have advised, essential as opposed to essentials
[03:21] <geremy> Flannel: Cellwind929 and I may have different issues after all. I can get to- but not through- the GDM login sequence
[03:21] <Guest35443> it says "Unknown"
[03:21] <vocx> Aeonis, whenever you aren't sure of a package's name use synaptic to check the available packages, or from the command line with "aptitude search <package>"
[03:21] <_2> Aeonis heh yeah,  people make mistakes.
[03:21] <Flannel> geremy: The liveCD stops at GDM to log you in?
[03:21] <Aeonis> It wouldn't work as "essentials".  I used "essential and it owrked.
[03:21] <KumoGone> Okay, (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) config/hal couldn't initialise context: (null) ((null))
[03:21] <[NoN]crazymodder> how do i set anti-aliasing on linux although i have the drivers.
[03:21] <Aeonis> i'm very new to linux vocx.
[03:21] <hosk> i'm going to burn 8.10 on this computer and tryto reinstall that way
[03:21] <attonbitusira> "Preparing to configure libmbca0" failed this step
[03:21] <geremy> Flannel: didn't try live cd, I'm on an install
[03:21] <Guest35443> anyone?
[03:21] <geremy> Flannel: did it from USB stick
[03:22] <Flannel> geremy: Ah.  Different issues indeed.  Is this a fresh install? or an upgrade?
[03:22] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> linux is case sensitive ..kindly do more tutorials so you'd pickup more
[03:22] <CITguy08> KumoGone: did you have a non-ubuntu screensaver on your PC?
[03:22] <Aeonis> Poo...."Waiting for headers"
[03:22] <erisco> where can I get the md5 hashes for the new release?
[03:22] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | Guest35443
[03:22] <jesseboi> I'm having an issue getting Intrepid to boot.  Can someone help me work around it?  Here's my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/286227
[03:22] <KumoGone> Yeah
[03:22] <_2> Aeonis apt-cache [search,show] *    very usefull.
[03:22] <geremy> Flannel: fresh install, on the Little Falls 2 mobo, intel 945 integrated graphics, md5sum validates
[03:22] <Flannel> geremy: What specifically does "not through" mean?  Changes then comes back? or what?
[03:22] <Aeonis> yeah n8tuser.  I'm waiting to find a good Ubuntu/Linux book.  I have a Fedora one, but it's crazy.
[03:22] <Aeonis> !apt-cache
[03:23] <CITguy08> KumoGone: do you know how to edit your xorg.conf file?
[03:23] <geremy> Flannel: I login, see brown, but nary a desktop
[03:23] <Aeonis> !dudes
[03:23] <Aeonis> That never gets old.
[03:23] <Flannel> geremy: and doesn't go further? or goes back to GDM?
[03:23] <Guest35443> after i installed the new nvidia drivers, i can't choose my external display through monitor resolution settings
[03:23] <stephans> !nvidia
[03:23] <Guest35443> but it shows "Unknown"
[03:23] <KumoGone> I've found what lines I need to add, I just can't figure out how to do it from the command line.
[03:23] <erisco> geremy, where did you get the hashes?
[03:23] <[NoN]crazymodder> hey, can anyone tell me why my GTA VC arent working on linux wine?
[03:23] <kris_> how does one generate an apache2 ssl cert under new versions of ubuntu -- i keep seeing many ways to do so for apache2+ssl
[03:23] <orifice> use: nvidia-settings
[03:23] <kris_> apache2-ssl-certificate isn't around anyore
[03:23] <Cellwind929> Flannel: live disk got to ubquity just fine, mashed the quit button like you said, now i have the Ibex wallpaper and an arrow
[03:23] <kris_> anymore*
[03:23] <Guest35443> i am using nvidia-settings
[03:23] <CITguy08> KumoGone: where'd you find them?
[03:23] <geremy> Flannel: it sits there. top reports no unusual processor utilization, nothing shows up in dmesg
[03:23] <Guest35443> and it still doesnt work
[03:24] <geremy> erisco: from the downloads page
[03:24] <ldiamond> I'm looking for someone to help me install Ubuntu from a USB Hard drive.
[03:24] <Guest35443> it doesnt let me choose my external monitor
[03:24] <Guest35443> or change its res, nothing...
[03:24] <KumoGone> http://www.linuxine.com/2008/10/uubuntu-810-betano-mousekeyboard-response.html
[03:24] <jimminy_cricket> anyone have any ideas on why once i get past the logon screen gdm appears to do nothing at all??
[03:24] <DIFH-iceroot> !usb | ldiamond
[03:24] <Guest35443> and it doesn't seem to save anything to xorg.conf
[03:24] <Flannel> Cellwind929: Well, we've made progress ;)
[03:24] <erisco> geremy, got a link? I cannot find anything
[03:24] <ldiamond> DIFH-iceroot, that doesnt wokr.
[03:24] <geremy> jimminy_cricket: that sounds familiar
[03:24] <Flannel> geremy: Try safe gnome from sessions.
[03:24] <ldiamond> Not for a USB HDD with Grub on it
[03:24] <CITguy08> KumoGone: are you root?
[03:24] <DIFH-iceroot> ldiamond: that is a good description of your problem :)
[03:25] <Cellwind929> Flannel: yeah, theres a wall paper instead of it being all black
[03:25] <Guest35443> help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964327
[03:25] <geremy> Flannel: jimminy_cricket may have a similar issue
[03:25] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> the book by mark sobell is very good imho
[03:25] <geremy> Flannel: trying
[03:25] <KumoGone> I don't think so.  ~$?
[03:25] <ldiamond> DIFH-iceroot: what is the problem?
[03:25] <CITguy08> KumoGone: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <ldiamond> DIFH-iceroot: Are you experienced with that?
[03:25] <Flannel> jimminy_cricket: "nothing at all" means what?
[03:25] <Flannel> !away > w4ett-bbiab
[03:25] <jomodo> ldiamond: my god man just buy a dvd!!!!
[03:25] <Aeonis> Is it easy to read for noobs n8tuser?
[03:25] <Cellwind929> Flannel: safe mode boots to a 640x480 desktop, regular just gives me the moue pointer and a background
[03:25] <jimminy_cricket> an orangey bland colour
[03:26] <Flannel> jimminy_cricket: Do you have a pointer?
[03:26] <jimminy_cricket> no taskbar etc
[03:26] <erisco> anyone? where can I get the hashes for the new release???
[03:26] <ldiamond> jomodo I HAVE DVDs. Its just stupid to use one for that. I'm not trying to watch a movie.
[03:26] <DIFH-iceroot> ldiamond: i was installing my ubuntu (eeebuntu) from usb-drive without any problems
[03:26] <kthakore2> when I share a folder using samba in intrepid and I try to access it from winxp home over the network it prompts me for a username and password. What password is this nothing I tried worked?
[03:26] <KumoGone> Okay, I'm in.
[03:26] <Flannel> erisco: Same places you downloaded the release.
[03:26] <nosklo> hardware drivers is not working. I enable the driver and a progress bar shows up quickly and disappears. How do I debug this?
[03:26] <onelivv> 8.10 was the nicest install ever... not sure about the partition gui though
[03:26] <[NoN]crazymodder> irc://irc.gtanet.com
[03:26] <jimminy_cricket> Flannel: got a pointer, nothing else
[03:26] <ldiamond> DIFH-iceroot: using a thumb drive?
[03:26] <erisco> Flannel, I did not see any hashes _anywhere_
[03:26] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> very easy, he also introduces you to bash scripting which is very good
[03:26] <BoltClock> im in singapore, trying to upgrade hardy to intrepid but update manager dies with the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64966, what should i do? ive tried both my local as well as the main ubuntu mirror, about the same errors are reported
[03:26] <CITguy08> KumoGone: first check to see if the three InputDevice sections exist or not
[03:26] <Flannel> erisco: Where did you download from?
[03:26] <erisco> Flannel, not even on the ubuntu hashes page
[03:26] <erisco> Flannel, the Ubuntu website
[03:26] <jesseboi> I'm having an issue getting Intrepid to boot.  Can someone help me work around it?  Here's my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/286227
[03:26] <eli_> ugh my dist-upgrade crashed halfway through
[03:26] <onelivv> nosklo: make sure synaptic isn't running
[03:26] <Flannel> erisco: Which mirror did you actually download from?
[03:26] <KumoGone> Nope
[03:27] <erisco> Flannel, Waterloo University
[03:27] <eli_> My computer thinks its intrepid but acts like hardy
[03:27] <Landypro> Can anyone help me with my driver / monitor problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964327
[03:27] <Aeonis> I'm trying to get used to this whole "bash" thing n8tuser.  I started getting the hang of Fedora before my "mentor" said he uses Ubuntu and was done with Fedora.
[03:27] <erisco> Flannel, wait, no, I have no idea
[03:27] <Flannel> erisco: all mirrors are the same structure, see : http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[03:27] <CITguy08> KumoGone: ok, add them as shown on the link you sent me
[03:27] <erisco> Flannel, it was just a link on the download page, no mirror selection
[03:27] <_2> Cellwind929 this may sound odd, but, have you tested pressing ctrl+alt+plus   to see if switching rez will help ?
[03:27] <Flannel> erisco: Look at the very top of the file listings, you'll see the MD5 and .gpg
[03:27] <blunder> alrighty then
[03:27] <gwinbee> hi uh, what does it mean when i get a message from the Bluetooth Manager that says "pairing request for (insert name of bluetooth device that isn't mine here)"
[03:27] <DIFH-iceroot> ldiamond: yes
[03:27] <geremy> Flannel: I get the brown screen, then black screen, then desktop background, but still no actual gnome desktop, and it takes perhaps 10-15s to make each of those transitions
[03:27] <gwinbee> because i've gotten two of those now
[03:27] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> same difference fedora or ubuntu, bash is common
[03:27] <Cellwind929> _2: ill give it a shot
[03:27] <jimminy_cricket> Flannel: any ideas then?
[03:27] <Landypro> Can anyone tell me why I can't use nvidia-settings to change my screen resolution
[03:27] <erisco> Flannel, whew, there it is, thanks
[03:27] <Landypro> its not saving my xorg.conf
[03:27] <erisco> Flannel, they could have made that less confusing
[03:28] <_2> Cellwind929 only mentioned becaues one need all the information about a problem they can get.
[03:28] <geremy> Flannel: the black screen is not the monitor-going-dead screen; its still on, just black
[03:28] <ldiamond> DIFH-iceroot: Do you know how to get grub to boot a partition containing the Live CD Image (I managed to get it to boot halfway through) ?
[03:28] <Cellwind929> _2: right
[03:28] <Flannel> erisco: file a bug report against ubuntu-website (I have no power to change that, etc)
[03:28] <Cellwind929> _2 i read somewhere that old intel onboard is having issues with X
[03:28] <CITguy08> gwinbee: do you have any bluetooth devices within sight of your PC?
[03:28] <erisco> Flannel, okay thanks.
[03:28] <blunder> landy sometimes you run nvidia-settings as root
[03:28] <gwinbee> CITguy08: nope
[03:28] <DIFH-iceroot> ldiamond: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[03:28] <Landypro> i am running it as root though
[03:28] <jimminy_cricket> is there a way to downgrade the new X to the old one??
[03:28] <Rubin> erisco: md5sums on any mirror such as http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/8.10/
[03:28] <_2> Cellwind929 yeah. i read that here.   but can't confirm or refute
[03:28] <Aeonis> Which one should I get n8tuser?  I'm looking at a few and one isn't out until Jan 5 2009.
[03:29] <n8tuser> ldiamond-> you are still asking the same questions, i already advised you of modifying the iso with squashfs and some parameter modifications..look that up on google
[03:29] <Landypro> and its still not savaing to xorg.conf
[03:29] <CITguy08> gwinbee: what kind of environment is your pc located?
[03:29] <wbmj> Landypro > does nvidia-settings say unable to save xorg.conf.backup?
[03:29] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> the book by mark sobell is very good imho..thast available now
[03:29] <geremy> jimminy_cricket: are you using an intel 9xx graphics card?
[03:29] <gwinbee> my only bluetooth device is my wiimote, which is about 30 miles from here
[03:29] <CITguy08> dorm, house, other?
[03:29] <Landypro> no
[03:29] <Cellwind929> _2 i saw a launchpad bug about it, wasnt specific on which chipset, and I dont know which chipset im running : /
[03:29] <gwinbee> CITguy08: apartment at the moment
[03:29] <blunder> ok one you have done that as root, do it as user tooo
[03:29] <jimminy_cricket> geremy: onboard SIS
[03:29] <Aeonis> n8tuser:  There's about 4+ I'm looking at.
[03:29] <Flannel> geremy, jimminy_cricket: have you guys checked for bug reports about this?  (and/or filed one?)
[03:29] <Landypro> it seems like it works, but i check the file and nothing has changed
[03:29] <phixxor> jimminy_cricket, if it's really a problem you _could_ go back to hardy
[03:29] <gwinbee> CITguy08:  which could easily explain it
[03:29] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> the book by mark sobell is very good imho..<--- mark sobell is the author
[03:29] <eli_> How do you downgrade to hardy?
[03:29] <gwinbee> but how do i remove these phones from "browse devices"
[03:30] <CITguy08> gwinbee: ok, it appears that one of your neighbors has bluetooth devices in promiscuous mode
[03:30] <nhasian> already gave up eli_?
[03:30] <blunder> eli why downgrade?
[03:30] <_2> Cellwind929 if you want to know.  sudo lshw -C display
[03:30] <jimminy_cricket> phixxor: i just want to downgrade X and i have no GUI until i fix this
[03:30] <DIFH-iceroot> eli_: install hardy directly
[03:30] <geremy> Flannel: been looking periodically, haven't found one yet
[03:30] <eli_> my computer crashed halfway through dis-upgrade
[03:30] <mercutio22> some of my laptop media keys are not working anylonger in ibex
[03:30] <gwinbee> CITguy08: understandably, but uh, what do i do about it?
[03:30] <macd_> eli_, I feel so bad for you
[03:30] <Flannel> eli_: We can finish the upgrade.  What state is your computer in right now?
[03:30] <Cellwind929> _2 ill give that a go if i hit a terminal
[03:30] <DIFH-iceroot> eli_: then install hardy and use your backup
[03:30] <Aeonis> "A practical guide to Linux"?
[03:30] <kthakore2> anyone?
[03:30] <Flannel> eli_: Can you get to a terminal?
[03:30] <CITguy08> gwinbee: well, if the devices are not connecting, don't worry about it
[03:30] <mercutio22> the ones that control rhythmbox
[03:31] <nhasian> eli_: yeah the servers were hit really hard today.  i still cant even install the nvidia restricted drivers.  guess i'll just wait till tomorrow
[03:31] <macd_> eli_, if it boots, you can "apt-get -f upgrade" then proceed on though
[03:31] <eli_> well I just ran sudo apt dis-upgrade or somthing like that for good measure
[03:31] <gwinbee> CITguy08: does the solution involve a baseball bat and a late-night visit to said neighbor?
[03:31] <Aeonis> Sorry n8tuser:  Here's what I found:  http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Commands-Editors-Programming/dp/0131478230/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225423780&sr=1-2
[03:31] <jimminy_cricket> so can you downgrade x without reinstalling hardy?
[03:31] <Flannel> macd_, eli_: that'd  should be dist-upgrade instead of upgrade.
[03:31] <macd_> Flannel, even with -f ?
[03:31] <trimeta> Intrepid has a new "Create a USB Startup Disk" feature, but every time I've run it the resulting disk won't boot.
[03:31] <kthakore2> when I share a folder using samba in intrepid and I try to access it from winxp home over the network it prompts me for a username and password. What password is this nothing I tried worked?
[03:31] <crashsystems> @nhasian did you try checking for better mirrors? I've found ones where I can get 256kb/s.
[03:31] <Aeonis> here's the other, but it's not out yet n8tuser - http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux-Versions/dp/0137003889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225423780&sr=1-1
[03:31] <trimeta> Has anyone else gotten it to work?
[03:31] <onelivv> nhasian: I just installed the Nvidia drivers just fine...
[03:31] <CITguy08> gwinbee: maybe, it depends on your relationship with your neighbors
[03:31] <macd_> Flannel, I thought dist-upgrade kicked out -f
[03:31] <CITguy08> lol
[03:31] <madrazr> Hi all, is anyone having problem connecting to GMail Chat in Pidgin on Intrepid? Do any of you know the solution?
[03:31] <gwinbee> CITguy08: as far as i can tell, it isn't connected.
[03:31] <madrazr> Help please
[03:31] <vocx> mercutio22, thats a know problem, the release notes on ibex mention that. Yours is a Toshiba laptop?
[03:31] <Landypro> when i try to save my nvidia-settings without sudo, i get a segmentation fault after i click save
[03:32] <Flannel> macd_: dist-upgrade has to do with satisfying new depends, not anything about broken packages
[03:32] <eli_> It seems to have mixed my sources list with hardy and intrepid, now I have updates that only go partial
[03:32] <trimeta> madrazr: Could you be more specific? I just installed Intrepid and am having no problem connecting to Gmail Chat.
[03:32] <gwinbee> CITguy08: is there some clear indicator if whether a device is connected? i can see these phones in "browse devices"
[03:32] <macd_> Landypro, for obvious reasons, as it needs the elevated permissions to save to a root writable file ;)
[03:32] <Flannel> macd_: It might be you want to -f upgrade than dist-upgrade though.
[03:32] <nhasian> crashsystems: i downloaded the alternate iso and upgraded with that.  but when i try to enable the restricted drivers for my nvidia card, it just stalls at 0%
[03:32] <jimminy_cricket> Landypro: thats because you need admin priveliges to save the settings
[03:32] <Flannel> eli_: We can fix that.
[03:32] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> 1st edition is good enuff, perhaps 2nd edition covers the latest 8.10 thats why it is not out yet. 8.10 just came out today
[03:32] <macd_> Flannel, exactly what I would do ;), fix it, then let it dist-upgrade
[03:32] <Landypro> and when i give it sudo, it doesnt change the file whatsoever
[03:32] <CITguy08> gwinbee: System > Preferences > Bluetooth
[03:32] <madrazr> trimeta: It says connecting and thats all, and after sometime it says could not connect
[03:32] <Aeonis> awesome n8tuser.  I'm looking for the 1st edition now.
[03:33] <BoltClock> oh my god finally i can upgrade
[03:33] <eli_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:33] <eli_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok-common_2%3a1.4.10-0ubuntu3_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:33] <eli_> ugh
[03:33] <jimminy_cricket> can you downgrade X or not then??
[03:33] <jtbandes> I'm running Intrepid in a virtual machine (via VirtualBox) on a Mac OS X host with a 1.83GHz Core Duo & ATI Radeon X1600. Ubuntu won't let me enable the desktop Visual Effects.. I'm pretty sure my computer could handle it but I'm not sure how it would work in a VM. Is there any way to force enable it?
[03:33] <eli_> the dist-upgrade failed again
[03:33] <Flannel> eli_: Alright.  Calm down, and lets just fix it.
[03:33] <KumoGone> Okay, added the lines, rebooting
[03:33] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i use the pgp signed md5hash it differs from the non-pgp signed hash, is this right? do i need to unsign the key or something?
[03:33] <Flannel> eli_: do what macd_ suggested: sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[03:33] <crashsystems> @nhasian try going into Software Sources, and in mirror selection tell it to test for the best server near you.
[03:33] <macd_> Landypro, the new resolution tool or w/e in intrepid will not detect and save your monitor? (I read your post on the forums but I dont  have any idea why it can't set proper res using HDMI, its supposed to be plug and work.
[03:33] <geremy> Flannel: so this is not a known issue so far as you are aware?
[03:33] <wbmj> Landypro > it helps to remove the xorg.conf.backup first then sudo nvidia-settings and make your changes
[03:33] <gwinbee> CITguy08: would be listed under "bonded devices" correct?
[03:33] <n8tuser> eli_-> do a fresh install, less headaches
[03:33] <Guest80955> Is everybody's network manager where it normally is after the upgrade? I can't find mine.
[03:34] <CITguy08> gwinbee: most likely
[03:34] <eli_> trying sudo apt-get -f upgrad
[03:34] <vocx> Aeonis, it's probably not the best idea to buy several books on Linux. If you are buying one you should pick one that teaches you the basic stuff, the rest you will learn by using it, and by reading the forums and this irc channel.
[03:34] <Aeonis> NOOOOO n8tuser!!  Currently unavailable :(
[03:34] <madrazr> trimeta: Ok figured out the issue. Intrepid does not take connect server as talk.google.com by default. One has to set it manually. This is nasty
[03:34] <madrazr> trimeta: makes the life of beginners difficult
[03:34] <Aeonis> I concur vocx, but I am working on learning in ways that I can do and I'm a hands on guy.
[03:34] <crashsystems> @Guest80955 I had to connect to ethernet on one box and do an update off of a mirror (I had previously done it from the alt cd)
[03:34] <Flannel> geremy: I haven't had much experience, so no. But that doesn't mean its not known to someone.  Unfortunately, I'm not an X guy to begin with, so even if this were just a regular breakage, I wouldn't know the way to fix it.
[03:34] <Aeonis> I'm just trying to get my feet wet.
[03:34] <n8tuser> Aeonis-> amazon is not the only seller, see bookpool and others
[03:34] <eli_> this is wierd im in semi-intrepid state
[03:34] <CITguy08> KumoGone: any luck with the edit?
[03:35] <trimeta> madrazr: Could be; I migrated an existing ~/.purple folder over, so it might have kept my old settings.
[03:35] <mercutio22> vocx> its a dell laptop
[03:35] <Flannel> eli_: Did that fix your packages?
[03:35] <KumoGone> Looks like it.
[03:35] <nhasian> crashsystems: thanks i'll try that now.  Quick question, is xchat the best irc client for ubuntu?  I am used to mIRC from windows
[03:35] <KumoGone> Thanks.
[03:35] <eli_> well its still doing it
[03:35] <madrazr> trimeta: Oh, but I had to go for a fresh install
[03:35] <jimminy_cricket> Flannel: can you downgrade x without doing an os reinstall, and if so, how?
[03:35] <CITguy08> You're welcome. Glad I could help
[03:35] <madrazr> trimeta: and most newbies will do a first install
[03:35] <madrazr> :D
[03:35] <crashsystems> @nhasian I don't know. I'm using Pidgin for IRC.
[03:35] <Rioting_pacifist> !md5
[03:35] <Flannel> jimminy_cricket: Not really, no.  apt makes it easy to upgrade versions, difficult to downgrade
[03:35] <FAJALOU> my md5sum is messed up
[03:35] <FAJALOU> :(
[03:35]  * nhasian laughs
[03:35] <KumoGone> First time editing a .conf file from the prompt.  A little unnerving.
[03:35] <gwinbee> CITguy08: thanks for clearing that up
[03:35] <CITguy08> gwinbee: no problem
[03:35] <geremy> Flannel: I know the feeling, I'll file a bug report if I can't find something, thanks for your help
[03:36] <madrazr> trimeta: Ok thanks for the response anyways. Have to do a maintainance reboot
[03:36] <madrazr> thanks a lot
[03:36] <vocx> mercutio22, well, I think the release notes mentioned a Toshiba, but it may affect other laptops as well. Also, if you uses "xmodmap", you need to check again your keycodes.
[03:36] <trimeta> But anyway, no one's tried the USB disk install?
[03:36] <gwinbee> CITguy08: oh one more thing, the radio buttons on that menu, which do you recommend?
[03:36] <gwinbee> CITguy08: under "mode of operation"
[03:36] <crashsystems> @trimeta I tried using USB stick, but couldn't figure it out.
[03:36] <trimeta> crashsystems: Fair enough.
[03:37] <KumoGone> And now it's not finding my wireless....
[03:37] <eli_> I tried to make a bootable usb stick in windows.. what a nightmare
[03:37] <mercutio22> vocx> it used to work in hardy heron. I think its a regress
[03:37] <CITguy08> gwinbee: I'd keep the option "Other devices can connect" but I'd uncheck the Authorization request in the General tab
[03:37] <voglster> quick question i want a shortcut for when i ssh into a machine outside my network with a fully qualified domain name... ie instead of ssh myserver.somelongdomainname.org i could do ssh serverA... whats the best / easiest way to do something like that?
[03:37] <ziroday> Hi, on my upgraded intrepid install (from hardy to intrepid) I am getting kernel panics on bootup
[03:37] <jesseboi> I have a LiveCD running on a USB stick.
[03:37] <genii> Flannel: Find exact versions you have available with apt-cache policy, then you can specify version in install command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg=7.3+10ubuntu10      for instance
[03:37] <n8tuser> eli_-> windows does not understand ext3 filesystem, thats why
[03:37] <crashsystems> @KumoGone do "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware" to make sure the package is installed.
[03:37] <eli_> well
[03:37] <trimeta> voglster: You could modify the host file on the computer you're ssh'ing from so that it'll automatically translate it.
[03:37] <gwinbee> CITguy08: ah, those are my preexisting settings.
[03:37] <Flannel> genii: downgrading from intrepid to hardy is a bit different
[03:37] <trimeta> Though that usually only works if the destination machine has a fixed IP address.
[03:38] <silent85> good morning all
[03:38] <n8tuser> jesseboi-> perhaps you can assist  ldiamond
[03:38] <genii> Flannel: Yes, very true :)
[03:38] <vocx> mercutio22, it's documented that it may break, so not exactly a regression more like a know issue.
[03:38] <CITguy08> gwinbee: okay then. I'd keep them that way.
[03:38] <Cellwind929> _2 found my graphics chip, 82845G/GL intel intergrated, doesnt help much but its there
[03:38] <luis_> fhfghsfhsfhsfbg xsfgh
[03:38] <gwinbee> CITguy08: thanks again, bye.
[03:38] <nosklo> onelivv, thanks. That worked.
[03:38] <jtbandes> Anyone? Help with Desktop Effects in a VM? (see information above)
[03:38] <jesseboi> ldiamond: can you repeat your problem to me?
[03:38] <eli_> It was fat32, but its hard to trick windows to treating it as hardisk it seems. like windows seems to recognize the "active" partition of the usb drive even though windows 9x sees both
[03:39] <snorby> hi i just made a ubuntu live usb , but how can i use my internal wireless pci card on it ?
[03:39] <voglster> trimeta, dns names work in host file? not jsut ip addys?
[03:39] <vocx> mercutio22, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[03:39] <onelivv> nosklo: np it happened to me too.  no warning ;-P
[03:39] <trimeta> voglster: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[03:39] <n8tuser> snorby-> boot on it, and see if it detects your wifi pci card, look via dmesg
[03:39] <mercutio22> vocx> maybe there is a clue to how to fix it then
[03:40] <voglster> trimeta, doesnt seem to be working :-(
[03:40] <eli_> does intrepid add support for webcams?
[03:40] <trimeta> snorby: Actually, how did you make the LiveUSB? Using the option in the System menu? Or something else fancy?
[03:40] <voglster> trimeta, thats what i tried first.. before i came here
[03:40] <trimeta> eli_: It's using the new 2.6.27 kernel, which allegedly has better support for webcams.
[03:40] <Flannel> eli_: There has been suppport for webcams for a long time.  Specific models hwoever, I'm sure, yes.
[03:41] <Setzir> Hey, I ran Wubi on my laptop, and have a filefolder inside Windows (Vista), and when I run the install program after booting with Ubuntu, I get a white screen.
[03:41] <crashsystems> @trimeta "Creat A USB Startup Disk"
[03:41] <eli_> I knew the new kernel did support them I didn't know if intrepid used the new one
[03:41] <trimeta> voglster: Well, there's always the "get a easy-to-remember dyndns.net name and use that" option...
[03:41] <crashsystems> @trimeta it is in administration
[03:41] <TheFella> Can anyone tell me if there's an easy way to make a winmodem work on Ubuntu?
[03:41] <FAJALOU> hi, I was trying to use wicd with a wired connection a little while ago, and, though it said it was connected, i was not able to get on the internet... any suggestions?
[03:41] <trimeta> crashsystems: Yea, I've run that multiple times, and each time I get a USB disk that doesn't boot.
[03:41] <n8tuser> TheFella-> you can buy the drivers for it?
[03:41] <vocx> eli_, "new" is relative, there is already a "newer" kernel and a newer of everything
[03:41] <eli_> I think its working
[03:41] <eddyj> ubuntu killed my Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet card
[03:41] <eli_> the upgrade
[03:41] <bibi_1> If I upgrade from 04 to 10 will it be a "fresh default install" or will it keep all extra packages I have installed by myself?
[03:41] <crashsystems> @trimeta I always use unetbootin
[03:42] <TheFella> Okay. Is there a FREE way to make them work
[03:42] <eddyj> how can i get it working again
[03:42] <trimeta> crashsystems: Ah. I haven't tried unetbootin; does it have anything like a persistent home?
[03:42] <megatog615> is it normal for my guest session to not even run gnome?
[03:42] <n8tuser> bibi_1-> do a fresh install not an upgrade, lest you want headaches
[03:42] <crashsystems> @trimeta I don't think it has persistent home, but it is easy and works great.
[03:42] <Guest59911> i just ran dpkg-reconfigure -a and screwed everythign up. is there a way to put it all back the way it was?
[03:42] <kthakore2> when I share a folder using samba in intrepid and I try to access it from winxp home over the network it prompts me for a username and password. What password is this nothing I tried worked?
[03:42] <jesseboi> trimeta: I remember there was a way to fix the mbr of your USB stick so that it's bootable....  let me find the command.
[03:42] <vocx> bibi_1, it will upgrade every package you have installed, so yes you will keep them, they won't be exactly the same, they will be new versions
[03:42] <blunder> exit
[03:43] <TheFella> Thoughts on Linux Mint?
[03:43] <eli_> Configuration file `/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades'
[03:43] <megatog615> does the guest session run gnome?
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I'm having issues with my monitor again.  The monitor went into sleep mode, then when I woke it up, it flickered and went blank
[03:43] <trimeta> jesseboi: In principle, the "Create a USB Startup Disk" thing should have run that command, right?
[03:43] <eli_> *** release-upgrades (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> now I can't get my screen back
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> can someone help?
[03:43] <crashsystems> @TheFella Mint sounds interesting, but the fact that you cannot do upgrades on it puts me off.
[03:43] <fede> hi
[03:43] <bibi_1> vocx: what about the packages I installed locally from the source?
[03:43] <TheFella> I didn't know you can't do upgrades
[03:43] <Sorcererbob> jdsbluedevl: can you get to a command prompt?
[03:43] <TheFella> Perhaps they'll fix that in a later release
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> I can't get ANYTHING on my screen
[03:43] <trimeta> bibi_1: How many of those do you have?
[03:43] <vocx> TheFella, crashsystems wrong channel to talk about Mint
[03:44] <Sorcererbob> jdsbluedevl: power it off and back on?
[03:44] <Setzir> From what I understand, I have to edit some command line. I'm a noob to this kinda of stuff. I will need lots of love with this one.
[03:44] <crashsystems> Mint == Ubuntu derivative, yes?
[03:44] <vocx> bibi_1, those won't be touched, and by source you mean actually compiling with "make" ?
[03:44] <voglster> trimeta, im just gonna write a single like shell script ;-)
[03:44] <vluser> can somebody help me please!//?? I'm trying to connect using gnome-ppp
[03:44] <jdsbluedevl> Sorcererbob: nope, won't even show the BIOS settings on bootup
[03:44] <vluser> the log says permissions errors
[03:44] <voglster> trimeta, line*
[03:44] <bibi_1> trimeta: less then 10
[03:44] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know the version of x that hardy used?
[03:44] <jdsbluedevl> but it did this a little while ago, then fixed itself mysteriously
[03:44] <bibi_1> vocx: yes.
[03:44] <Sorcererbob> jdsbluedevl: hardware problem then
[03:45] <Sorcererbob> lunch, bbs
[03:45] <linyoweb> hi
[03:45] <eli_> Ubuntu seems to fix hardware issues magically overtime :)
[03:45] <jesseboi> trimeta:  I think it should...  But I had problems with this too so I have to run the command.     1. Type sudo apt-get install mbr   2. Type fdisk -l to find out which device is your flash drive   3. Type install-mbr /dev/sdx (replacing x with your flash device)
[03:46] <trimeta> voglster: Yea, something like "if $@ == "shorthand"; then ssh long_thing; elif ssh @$; fi;" should work.
[03:46] <trimeta> Wait, $@ both times.
[03:46] <snorby> hi i just made a ubuntu live usb , but how can i use my internal wireless pci card on it ? i made my liveusb on unetbootin
[03:46] <mattgyver83> I have a co-worker who when booting ubuntu it loads, however the screen flashes from white to red.  If you press Enter it clearly logs in but you see nothing but white.  Anyone know why this might occur or how to address?
[03:46] <ericjung> my Network Manager icon is missing in System->Administration. Is there another way to start it?
[03:46] <trimeta> jesseboi: I'll try it.
[03:46] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know the version of x that hardy used?
[03:47] <stu> 安
[03:47] <stu> 你好
[03:47] <xrandallx> can someone help me with bluetooth in ibex i have it paired with my phone and i have under network manager under mobile broadband i have it setup for my service but what do i use to connect to my phone to get a connection going
[03:47] <trimeta> ericjung: Try System->Preferences.
[03:47] <vocx> jimminy_cricket, you can probably check the exact package in launchpad, but I guess it would be 7.2.something
[03:47] <mattgyver83> xrandallx, i believe bluez
[03:48] <jimminy_cricket> vocx: i'm trying to downgrade so i need the exact number...
[03:48] <mattgyver83> xrandallx, ill have to look i set it up on my laptop
[03:48] <ericjung> trimeta: it's not there, either, although Network Tools and Network Proxy is
[03:48] <VicTheHunter> How can I enable cool desktop effects in Ubuntu with KDE?
[03:48] <xrandallx> mattgyver83 ok
[03:48] <mattgyver83> Vic, cant you install compiz under kde?
[03:48] <eli_> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic
[03:48] <eli_> eli@eli-desktop:~$
[03:48] <trimeta> ericjung: I don't have any Network Manager-looking thing under Administration either, so I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for.
[03:48] <bullgard4> What is Ubuntu's most ften used audio response program / voice output program?
[03:48]  * CITguy08 is leaving
[03:48] <eli_> I think its done
[03:48] <bullgard4> What is Ubuntu's most often used audio response program / voice output program?
[03:48] <VicTheHunter> I'm sort of new to Linux.  How can I check if compiz is installed?
[03:49] <Flannel> VicTheHunter: Do you have Hardy or Intrepid?
[03:49] <mattgyver83> Vic, are you using kubuntu?
[03:49] <VicTheHunter> I have Hardy.
[03:49] <C4LN> Hey Guys just got the new 8.10
[03:49] <Flannel> VicTheHunter: then compiz-fusion is installed by default
[03:49] <C4LN> its the best release thus far
[03:49] <DIFH-iceroot> VicTheHunter: sudo apt-get install compiz -s
[03:49] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, go to synaptic and do a search on compiz, but it is installed by default
[03:49] <VicTheHunter> I'm using Ubuntu with GNOME, but I installed the KDE desktop.
[03:50] <VicTheHunter> Ok, I'm checking for compiz...
[03:50] <mattgyver83> Vic, its probably under System-Preferences-Compiz Settings Manager
[03:50] <mattgyver83> if your using hardy
[03:50] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, but to change settings you have to install the compiz-settings-manager
[03:50] <mattgyver83> not sure if KDE is laid out differently though
[03:50] <n8tuser> VicTheHunter-> dpkg-query -l compiz
[03:50] <bullgard4> VicTheHunter: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects > Extra
[03:51] <jtbandes> Related to Visual Effects, is it possible to get them working in a VirtualBox VM on a Mac OS X host?
[03:51] <VicTheHunter> Wow, you all are awsome. I appreciate your help.  This will take me a moment to try out your notes...
[03:51] <CardiacKid> I'm having issues getting my windows share to work. I can see the networlk connection to the computer with the share on it, but I don't see any of the shared folders.
[03:52] <bullgard4> VicTheHunter: Do you mean "awesome"?
[03:52] <mattgyver83> c4ln, 8.10, what makes you say its the best v. yet?
[03:52] <jtbandes> bullgard4: no, you're not that good ;)
[03:52] <VicTheHunter> Yes, awesome, as in really great.
[03:53] <VicTheHunter> I show that compiz-settings-manager is not installed
[03:53] <dotblank> hmm
[03:53] <dotblank> Package nvidia-glx-new has no available version, but exists in the database.
[03:53] <nosklo> how can I install ekiga3?
[03:53] <zakirs> guys i need help
[03:53] <mattgyver83> xrandallx, yeah you have to install bluez, let me see if i still have the link bookmarked.  If you want to send files back and forth i use a app called gnome-obex-server
[03:53] <FAJALOU> hi, I was trying to use wicd with a wired connection a little while ago, and, though it said it was connected, i was not able to get on the internet... any suggestions?
[03:53] <VicTheHunter> Should I just mark everything for installation that has compiz  in the name?
[03:53] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, I don't think the settings manager is installed by default, so yeah, you need to install it
[03:53] <bullgard4> jtbandes: hihi
[03:54] <VicTheHunter> Ok. Installing now...
[03:54] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, depends what they are for ;)
[03:54] <Setzir> I guess the best question is: How to isntall Ubuntu on a laptop running Vista.
[03:54] <zakirs> i set the mount point of a partition to  /media/disk  in the preferences option using nautilus .. and nouw its not booting
[03:54] <zakirs> help any ne
[03:54] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, it should give you a description of what each compiz package does, or you can post them here if you are not sure
[03:54] <kthakore2> when I share a folder using samba in intrepid and I try to access it from winxp home over the network it prompts me for a username and password. What password is this nothing I tried worked?
[03:54] <mattgyver83> xrandallx, http://aquariusoft.org/page/palm/   the page overviews installing bluez and how to sync a palm device, however the instructions should be similar for most phones.
[03:54] <vocx> nosklo, I think I read that it wasn't included in this release, so if you really want it you need to compile it yourself or get a deb package elsewhere.
[03:55] <xrandallx> mattgyver83 ok ty i will try that
[03:55] <Flannel> nosklo: Some people have put it in a PPA, take a look for that.
[03:55] <CardiacKid> any thoughts? Why would I see the network share but not the shared folders on the machine?
[03:55] <nosklo> Flannel, vocx, okay, googling away, thanks.
[03:55] <brodymcd> could someone PLEASE help me with my sound issue - sound a crackly mess since my 8.10 upgrade
[03:55] <jtbandes> Meshezabeel/bullgard4, do you know if it's possible to get the Visual Effects working in a virtual machine (VirtualBox on an OS X host)?
[03:55] <Nitro`> 10.30(08:48:19pm) <Nitro> hey
[03:55] <Nitro`> 10.30(08:48:30pm) <Nitro> Has anyone here setup a transparent proxy with squid?
[03:55] <Nitro`> 10.30(08:48:52pm) <Nitro> Or a transparent proxy with anything?
[03:55] <Nitro`> 10.30(08:50:48pm) <Nitro> What I'm trying to accomplish is have a server on a vm on a seperate vlan and then configure it so any data requests get dropped and any http request gets them one static page with some information on it
[03:56] <Nitro`> 10.30(08:52:10pm) <Nitro> I'm thinking squid is the right thing to use here, but I could be mistaken. Does anyone else have any ideas on the best way to accomplish this?
[03:56] <FloodBot3> Nitro`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <Dan> I just installed ibex on my acer aspire one, and now I can't get WPA2 personal to work
[03:56] <Dan> anyone know anything about how to fix that?
[03:56] <bullgard4> jtbandes: No. I have made no experience with virtualization in Linux.
[03:56] <Meshezabeel> jtbandes, I do not know the answer to your question, it is good not to ask people by name though
[03:56] <dotblank> How do I make ubuntu forget the current update status
[03:56] <VicTheHunter> I haven't used chat in a few years. It is actually very nice to come back to this chat room and not see any bad words.
[03:57] <Meshezabeel> dotblank, what do you mean by update status?
[03:57] <jtbandes> Meshezabeel: yes I know, and I did earlier, but you two were answering other questions about the effects, so I figured it was worth a shot. thanks.
[03:57] <vocx> jtbandes, if the desktop effects actually use 3D acceleration I don't think it's possible since virtualization does use the 3D hardware directly.
[03:57] <Meshezabeel> jtbandes, no prob ;)
[03:57] <bullgard4> dotblank: This attempt is not advisable.
[03:57] <dotblank> like I have a messed up update manager that I telling me about partial upgrade
[03:57] <VicTheHunter> synaptic is still installing compiz software for me...
[03:58] <droopsta915> I have ubuntu 8.04, I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the new release? Anyone upgrade already?
[03:58] <Meshezabeel> dotblank, you need to fix the problem, not try to pretend it doesn't exist
[03:58] <vocx> Dan, according to the release notes some wireless drivers are messed up, some intel ones http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[03:58] <bullgard4> dotblank: Try apt-get update
[03:58] <DIFH-iceroot> droopsta915: never touch a running system
[03:58] <FAJALOU> hi i was going to upgrade to 8.10 but have decided to wait, but i started it half way, so i think there are some .deb packages taking up alot of space on my computer, how can i remove these .deb
[03:58] <dotblank> done that
[03:58] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, did you install all packages with compiz in the name/
[03:58] <stu> ggthyujkoltgt
[03:58] <Codemaster> hm okay
[03:58] <VicTheHunter> I also have Ubuntu 8.04, and am wondering the same as droopsta.
[03:59] <dotblank> I had a broken hardy update
[03:59] <dotblank> to intrepid
[03:59] <stu> gthgthythgrwtgerg
[03:59] <mattgyver83> VicTheHunter,droopsta, what do you have to loose?
[03:59] <Codemaster> so i attempt to install the nvidia driver (tried with 177 and 173) and during boot it mentions it is attempting to install the driver and says [fail]
[03:59] <stu> rytyrtwetrrt
[03:59] <DIFH-iceroot> FAJALOU: apt-get clean and  apt-get autoremove
[03:59] <Codemaster> anyone have any idea as to why it is doing that?
[03:59] <stu> suggdkhs7tyklgndcm,
[03:59] <dotblank> its now intrepid but it still has the updates from hardy
[03:59] <droopsta915> DIFH: ? What do you mean by that?
[03:59] <VicTheHunter> I got this error from synaptic:
[03:59] <Meshezabeel> before you do an upgrade, make sure you back up your important files
[03:59] <VicTheHunter> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-fusion-bcop_0.6.0-1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/bcop', which is also in package compiz-bcop
[03:59] <VicTheHunter> \
[03:59] <Flannel> dotblank: sudo apt-get update, should fix it
[04:00] <FAJALOU> DIFH-iceroot: i dd both of those, but it didn't say that anything was removed...
[04:00] <Codemaster> anyone have any idea about the driver issue i am having?
[04:00] <Flannel> VicTheHunter: Do you have non-official repositories?
[04:00] <droopsta915> If I upgrade, will all my settings store to default?
[04:00] <Flannel> droopsta915: No
[04:00] <DIFH-iceroot> FAJALOU: apt-get clean has no output but deletes all deb files which are downloaded (cache)
[04:00] <VicTheHunter> How may I check for non-official repositories?
[04:01] <Flannel> VicTheHunter: Fire up software sources and take a look.
[04:01] <FAJALOU> DIFH-iceroot:  is there a way to make sure?  sorry for being anal about it
[04:01] <crdlb> VicTheHunter: uninstall compiz-fusion-bcop, that package was imported from debian erroneously
[04:01] <DIFH-iceroot> FAJALOU: df -h
[04:01] <VicTheHunter> Thanks, brb...
[04:01] <mattgyver83> droopsta915, yes.
[04:01] <frank23> VicTheHunter: compiz-bcop is not a ubuntu package as far as I can tell
[04:01] <vocx> FAJALOU, Unix philosophy is "don't output anything if it worked okay"  Check around /var/apt/cache I think that's where the packages get downloaded.
[04:01] <Codemaster> anyone have any idea why the nvidia drivers (177 and 173) are both failing for me after I upgrade to intrepid?
[04:01] <dotblank> whoa my name changed from eli to dotblank
[04:01] <brodymcd> could someone PLEASE help me with my sound issue - sound a crackly mess since my 8.10 upgrade
[04:01] <mattgyver83> droopsta915, its possible to have hardware issues with drivers and such however (most of the time) the upgrades offer better driver support
[04:02] <droopsta915> mattgyver83: Do I need to get all my codecs and players again?
[04:02] <crdlb> frank23: it was renamed in intrepid to match debian
[04:02] <mattgyver83> droopsta, you shouldnt
[04:02] <vocx> Codemaster, it's documented in the release notes that some of those drivers try to transition to newer ones or rever to the free "nv" http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:02] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, notice there's both compiz-bcop, and compiz-fusion-bcop, if you don't know what bcop is, then you don't need to bother installing it to begin with
[04:02] <droopsta915> Thanx, I will try the upgrade:)
[04:02] <Codemaster> vocx: I'll take a look at that; if i switch to nv is there any way to utilize the nvidia driver again?
[04:02] <mattgyver83> droopsta, normally its some changes to the OS itself, kernel updates, and stuff like that.  Most software is fine.
[04:02] <dotblank> hmm
[04:02] <dotblank> that didnt fix it
[04:02] <kthakore2> when I share a folder using samba in intrepid and I try to access it from winxp home over the network it prompts me for a username and password. What password is this nothing I tried worked?
[04:03] <VicTheHunter> Shall I uninstall both which have -bcop?
[04:03] <mattgyver83> kthakore2, have you tried your windows login info, or ubuntu login info?
[04:03] <vocx> Codemaster, maybe, but it also says that the old drivers aren't compatible with the new Xorg, so that may mean no.
[04:03] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, at least uninstall the one that doesn't have the little ubuntu symbol beside it
[04:03] <shad0w0fsin> hey I upgraded to intrepid but am having some internet problems, networking works but internet doesn't
[04:04] <VicTheHunter> Ok, brb...
[04:04] <Codemaster> vocx: well, during the intrepid beta, the 177 drivers worked fine for me....
[04:04] <calvino> does someone know a good website with neat skins for the Gnome2 desktop? :q
[04:04] <shad0w0fsin> gnome-look.org
[04:04] <FAJALOU> DIFH-iceroot:  i did a locate *,deb and it only found the packages that i want to keep, so it must have made them disappear
[04:04] <calvino> ty
[04:04] <vocx> Codemaster, I personally haven't used nvidia cards, I'm just passing the information about the documented issues.
[04:04] <Dan> here I thought it would be easier to use the wireless in my laptop in 8.10, turns out the new methods don't work and the old ones don't work anymore either
[04:04] <Dan> how lame
[04:05] <Socialoutcast> anyone else using eeebuntu on their eeepc?
[04:05] <Meshezabeel> FAJALOU, you made sure you did a sudo updatedb
[04:05] <FAJALOU> Meshezabeel: ?
[04:05] <FAJALOU> Meshezabeel:  i don't want to update...
[04:06] <Meshezabeel> FAJALOU, I mean for locate to work properly, you should updatedb, or am I incorrect about that?
[04:06] <csilk> openoffice3 installation was a breeze a long shot away from the days I used to do it on slackware9
[04:06] <Elijah> Why when I go to download 8.10 from ubuntu.com dows it not give me an amd, intel option but when I go to the torrent page it does?
[04:06] <VicTheHunter> Ok. It looks like I now have compiz for KDE.  How do I use it?
[04:06] <FAJALOU> !compiz
[04:06] <FAJALOU> might help?
[04:06] <csilk> Elijah,  amd or intel, makes no difference, it's your architecture you wanna worry abour 32bit or 64
[04:07] <vocx> FAJALOU, Meshezabeel "locate" does not exactly searches everything, if you want to really check everything you need to use the "find" command. Just for your information.
[04:07] <csilk> *about
[04:07] <Elijah> csilk: Why is there an amd or intel torrent then?
[04:07] <VicTheHunter> Thanks ubottu
[04:07] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, check under System->Preferences->Appearance
[04:07] <csilk> Elijah, link please
[04:07] <FAJALOU> vocx:  i am actually using the handy search for files on the ghome-applet
[04:07] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, at least it is there under gnome
[04:07] <Flannel> Elijah: It does, 32bit or 64bit, under "Begin Download", Custom option
[04:07] <Elijah> I think 1400 is the most I have seen in here!!!!
[04:07] <VicTheHunter> and Meshezabeel, and everyone here to help. You are fantastic.
[04:08] <csilk> Elijah,  generally it doesn't matter as long as you get the archtecture right
[04:08] <csilk> *architecture
[04:08] <vocx> !thanks | VicTheHunter
[04:08] <Elijah> csilk: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[04:09] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, If you find the Appearance app, then there is a tab that says Visual Effects, then click on Extra
[04:09] <Flannel> Elijah: As you were already told, those are the "32bit" "64bit" choice
[04:09] <Elijah> Flannel: Ok, thanks I didn't notice the amd64 just the amd,
[04:09] <csilk> Elijah,  amd64 = 64bit     and 1686 = 32 bit
[04:09] <csilk> **1386
[04:09] <Elijah> I get it now, they are just worded differently on the diff pages
[04:10] <csilk> it says amd because amd were the first to release retail 64 bit chips
[04:10] <Flannel> Elijah: the 64bit arch is generically referred to as "AMD64", 32bit is "i386"
[04:10] <vocx> csilk, you got it wrong, it's i386
[04:10] <csilk> vocx, yeah typo, I'm sure he understood
[04:10] <vocx> csilk, but you made like a double typo?? how come
[04:11] <csilk> vocx, because I fail at typing, I wasn't going to correct myself a 3rd time, that's just spam
[04:11] <Elijah> Flannel:  Thanks. I really hope that 8.10 works with my Sprint EVDO U727 modem!!!! Crossing some serious fingers right now!
[04:11] <vocx> csilk, sad but true
[04:11] <csilk> lol
[04:11] <dotblank> agh
[04:11] <jaypro> damn it! 8.10 (and 8.04) isnt working for me
[04:11] <csilk> People still use modems?
[04:11] <greg_universe> i do
[04:11] <dotblank> this doesnt make sense sudo apt-get update isnt changing anything
[04:11] <eross> i do - broadband cable modem =]
[04:12] <lawstudent1> i need to run some .jar files. i need to use the java command. i tried to apt-get  install java but i says "couldn't find package java". pls advise.
[04:12] <Meshezabeel> jaypro, thanks for the comment :)
[04:12] <Elijah> csilk: Broadband 3G EVDO modems, yes!
[04:12] <csilk> I haven't actually seen a standalone hardware modem since the 90's
[04:12] <dotblank> its still asking me to do a partial distrobution upgrade
[04:12] <techno_freak> hmm, when i manually restart NetworkManager, i get the nm-applet but it says "Networking disabled" though the right click menu shows a tick mark for "Enable Networking" :s
[04:12] <Wavesonics> man getting an encrypted software RAID set up  to install and boot is *tough*
[04:12] <jaypro> Meshezabeel yeah i dont know whats wrong
[04:12] <Socialoutcast> lol I use external 56Ks at work for dial on demand stuff
[04:13] <Elijah> Wavesonics: Wouldn't it be easier to install an encrypted truecrypt partition on the RAID itself?
[04:13] <Flannel> !java | lawstudent1
[04:13] <shad0w0fsin> anyone have any solutions? my network works but internet doesn't on intrepid
[04:13] <csilk> lol OOo tried to make v3 look sleey and sexy, it just looks like a win95 reject
[04:13] <csilk> *sleek
[04:13] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, are you able to ping your gateway?
[04:13] <vocx> dotblank, "apt-get update" only updates the package list, doesn't do much. You need to "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" I forget
[04:13] <angah> lawstudent1: try search sun-java6-jre
[04:13] <Socialoutcast> u using network manager
[04:13] <Flannel> dotblank: you need to dist-upgrade
[04:13] <Meshezabeel> jaypro, well, I can guarantee with all the information you gave, that no one here will be able to diagnose your problem
[04:13] <joanki123> can anyone tell me .... what program to use in ubuntu to compress pdf files into a smaller size?
[04:13] <shad0w0fsin> techno_freak : yes
[04:14] <shad0w0fsin> I can ping and connect to everything on the network, just can't access the internet
[04:14] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, are you sure your DNS is working?
[04:14] <shad0w0fsin> how do I check that?
[04:14] <egc> joanki123: bzip2
[04:14] <secret901> I'm having trouble enabling Visual Effects.  When I turn it on it automatically disables it.
[04:14] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, nslookup google.com
[04:14] <Socialoutcast> nslookup
[04:14] <egc> joanki123: or gzip
[04:15] <manunderground> is there any way to get ubuntu *without* open office?
[04:15] <Visitor15> shad0w0fsin: I believe ifconfig will show it as well.
[04:15] <red22> any way to know how much stuff jigdo-lite will have to download in total?
[04:15] <Elijah> secret901: U aren't using a VM are you?
[04:15] <manunderground> or for that matter without Evolution?
[04:15] <vocx> joanki123, you can't exactly compress it further, but you can package it with tar and then compress it with zip, rar, 7zip, bzip, and many others etc.
[04:15] <Kr0ntab> joanki123: manunderground, uninstall them using add/remove programs
[04:15] <secret901> Elijah: no, I'm running Ibex.  It worked in Heron
[04:15] <Kr0ntab> oops.. not you joanki123.. sorry
[04:15] <Dan> is there a way in intrepid to actually indicate that you want to use WPA2 Personal instead of selecting WPA & WPA2 Personal?
[04:15] <joanki123> darn. no good solutions because i don't wnat to zip
[04:15] <joanki123> i will have to rescan at a lower resolution
[04:15] <joanki123> thanks
[04:15] <Dan> because that option doesn't seem to be working at all
[04:15] <manunderground> Kr0ntab: in my experience it won't let me uninstall Evolution because it seems like it's connected to other parts of the system
[04:16] <Elijah> secret901: Gotcha, maybe get your latest driver update for the Gcard
[04:16] <Meshezabeel> any luck VicTheHunter?
[04:16] <egc> joanki123: try "man bzip2"
[04:16] <joanki123> egc i don't want to zip
[04:16] <Wavesonics> How can I chroot into a RAID md0 from a live CD?
[04:16] <VicTheHunter> No luck. I can't find the Effects app.
[04:16] <Kr0ntab> manunderground: it only removes a metapackage... called ubuntu-desktop... it does not break your system...
[04:16] <joanki123> i need it to be nonzipped to upload to a site but it's 2 bytes too big
[04:16] <secret901> Elijah: my graphics card should be supported by Ubuntu.  I'm using a Dell Ubuntu laptop.
[04:16] <VicTheHunter> I'm probably looking in the wrong menu.
[04:16] <egc> joanki123: well, u asked for compression
[04:16] <jaypro> Meshezabeel haha well in 8.04, i tried to install it, but the resolution looked all messed up. i took a screenshot while it was on live cd, and the image looked normal, despite what i was actually looking at.  it is even worse with 8.10 because i cant even get the live cd to boot.  it shows the ubuntu logo with progress bar, but after that it freezes/nothing happens
[04:17] <Elijah> secret901: Youa ren't using a live cd are you?
[04:17] <Singer2> hey
[04:17] <secret901> Elijah: no, I upgraded to Ibex from Heron
[04:17] <boblemur> jaypro try turning off quiet splash
[04:17] <jaypro> Meshezabeel because of it, im still on 7.10
[04:17]  * antdedyet wonders why some packages can't authenticated after upgrading to ibex
[04:17] <Singer2> is there anyway to get the ath5k driver to go faster then 1mb/s?
[04:17] <Meshezabeel> jaypro, how much RAM do you have/processor?
[04:17] <boblemur> see if its getting stuck
[04:17] <joanki123> egc sorry.... is there another solution?
[04:17] <antdedyet> (by using apt-get)
[04:17] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, you are under KDE correct?
[04:17] <Dan> why the hell does the wireless act so bizarrely in 8.10, why does it just grab any open WAP point even when you didn't specify that it should, and why can't you specify what encryption type you are using specifically in this new network manager thing?
[04:17] <joanki123> a way t lower the resolution?
[04:17] <Singer2> the same system in hardy using madwifi gets me 54mb/s
[04:17] <VicTheHunter> Yes, Meshezabeel.
[04:18] <egc> how'd u generate the pdf
[04:18] <Dorobo18jp> Hello can some one help me i have searched the web for clearweather screenlet fixes but cant seem to get it running anyone out there that can help me out
[04:18] <jaypro> boblemur how do i turn off quiet splash?; Meshezabeel it shouldnt matter, right? 2.0 ghz
[04:18] <vocx> Dan, apparently they wanted to pick available AP so you can carry laptops from place to place, dunno. Also read the release notes
[04:18] <Elijah> secret901: Gotcha, I don't have any further thoughts.
[04:19] <egc> yeah, i read the release notes and decided not to upgrade
[04:19] <secret901> Elijah: I think I had the same problem when upgrading to 8.04 from 7.10, but I forgot how I fixed it.
[04:19] <FAJ> hi using wicd to connect to the internet, I can connect great with wifi, but not at all with wired, can anyone help me out?
[04:19] <vocx> Singer2, I think the ath5k driver is broken, read the release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:19] <Socialoutcast> is your wired enabled?
[04:19] <VicTheHunter> Is it possible to hide the messages in this chat room, which say that someone enters or leaves?
[04:19] <Dan> vocx, do you know anything more about the wireless stuff?  Using the same wireless driver I was using in 8.04 I can no longer use WPA2 personal for some reason
[04:19] <xrandallx> is there a program like keytext or shortkeys available for ubuntu
[04:19] <birinight> \join #perm8
[04:19] <FAJ> Socialoutcast: how could i check ;)
[04:19] <FAJ> just to be safe
[04:19] <vocx> Dan, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:20] <K_Dallas> Q: What is a good cd ripper with output formats such as flac or ogg, thanks. Besides dvdrip and k4copy, are there good dvd rippers? Thanks
[04:20] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, depends what IRC program you are using, but try clicking on the channel name
[04:20] <secret901> anyone having problem enabling Visual Effects in 8.10?  I didn't have this problem in 8.04
[04:20] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, right-clicking
[04:20] <boblemur> jaypro, press f6 when u have the options of try ubuntum install, check disk etc... and after u press f6 just del the -- splash and quiet
[04:20] <Singer2> vocx: so I should download madwifi and compile it?
[04:20] <sebsebseb> secret901:  Intrepid has a completly new X org
[04:20] <VicTheHunter> I'm using Pidgin for this IRC
[04:20] <dotblank> I was using my treo
[04:20] <K_Dallas> secret901, it worked for me and immediately I disabled it ;)
[04:20] <Socialoutcast> FAJ when I am connected to wireless with WICD my wired disapears
[04:20] <Socialoutcast> I have to disconect my wireless to get it to work
[04:21] <vocx> Singer2, maybe. I can't give you the right answer since I don't have an atheros card, but that's what I read in the notes.
[04:21] <prower> anyone  else haing trouble joining multiplayer games of quake wars in intrepid? :<
[04:21] <secret901> sebsebseb: X.org is entirely different than from 8.04?
[04:21] <sebsebseb> secret901: yep that's right
[04:21] <FAJ> Socialoutcast:  ya same here, but even when i disconnect my wifi it doesn't work..
[04:21]  * afallenhope sings "cause breaking up is hard to do" ;-; ugh... life sucks right now
[04:21] <jaypro>  ok ill try that, thanks boblemur
[04:21] <silv3r_m00n> i am new to linux..... i have written a bash script and i want it to execute everytime linux boots.... how ?
[04:21] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, do you have a system->preferences->appearance ?
[04:21] <Socialoutcast> hmm
[04:21] <sebsebseb> secret901: does not have suppourt for a lot of older hardware
[04:21] <Socialoutcast> does it show up?
[04:21] <afallenhope> lol masss.
[04:21] <secret901> sebsebseb: why can't they just stick with what works...last time they messed up the sound
[04:21] <Socialoutcast> at all?
[04:21] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, I mean under ubuntu menu (not pidgin)
[04:21] <zidane_tr> hey guys, why does ATI support suck so bad in ubuntu.....
[04:21] <sebsebseb> secret901:  well for people that just want what is meant to work,  they should be using LTS
[04:21] <Dorobo18jp> anyone there have clearweather screenlet ? if so how do you get it working
[04:22] <FAJ> Socialoutcast:  it says that i am connected but can't ping or anything else...
[04:22] <afallenhope> silv3r_m00n, put it in your /etc/init.d
[04:22] <nickybatts> My DVD player has awful performance, what can I do to try and help that situation?
[04:22] <boblemur> lol i hate Ati as well... sound blaster takes the cake for worst drivers though
[04:22] <silv3r_m00n> afallenhope: let me try
[04:22] <zidane_tr> my mums laptop can play guild wars fine with an nvidia card yet my computer with an ati card crashes :(
[04:22] <VicTheHunter> I don't have a System>Preferences
[04:22] <afallenhope> silv3r_m00n, then you should do sudo update-rc.d SCRIPTNAME defaults
[04:22] <tron> ./join ubuntu-es
[04:22] <secret901> sebsebseb: I was hoping to use 8.04, but they used the new-fangled sound server
[04:22] <zidane_tr> is it worth running 64-bit?
[04:22] <sebsebseb> secret901:  this new version is meant to be for more technical users
[04:22] <shad0w0fsin> techno_freak : nslookup fails: ';; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[04:22] <shad0w0fsin> '
[04:22] <sebsebseb> secret901: everyone else LTS
[04:22] <vocx> !startup | silv3r_m00n
[04:23] <FastPutty> someone here know about ToS and QoS in iptables?
[04:23] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, then problem with your DNS
[04:23] <FastPutty> need some little help
[04:23] <Socialoutcast> FAJ: what does your /ect/network/interfacces say for eth0?
[04:23] <shad0w0fsin> any idea on how to fix it?
[04:23] <VicTheHunter> I do have a couple of System menus...
[04:23] <secret901> sebsebseb: 8.04 messed up the sound on my laptop, I had to custom rebuild the kernel.  I was hoping 8.10 would fix that
[04:23] <Socialoutcast> interfaces*
[04:23] <secret901> sebsebseb: but no, now it messes up the graphics too
[04:23] <sebsebseb> secret901:  you can use other sound servers than pulse.  also.  pulse issues well  in hardy.  killall pulse audio and  that solves most stuff
[04:23] <nickybatts> What is the best player for DVD's in Ubuntu?
[04:23] <Codemaster> VLC
[04:23] <Kr0ntab> +1 for VLC
[04:23] <nickybatts> Okay
[04:23] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, what does `less /etc/resolv.conf` say ?
[04:23] <nickybatts> I will check it out
[04:24] <Singer2> +1 for MPlayer
[04:24] <Singer2> for me
[04:24] <nickybatts> Totem is awful
[04:24] <nickybatts> so slow
[04:24] <dotblank> wow I changed my mirror and now my packages download 1mb/s faster
[04:24] <zidane_tr> i only switched a week ago and i dont wanna go back :D:D
[04:24] <nickybatts> and it skips frames
[04:24] <shad0w0fsin> # Generated by NetworkManager
[04:24] <shad0w0fsin> nameserver 10.1.1.1
[04:24] <secret901> sebsebseb: my experience with pulse was horrible, and I'm using a Dell Ubuntu laptop that's supposedly supported by Ubuntu
[04:24] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, do `ping 10.1.1.1`
[04:24] <VicTheHunter> I have one system menu under each of "All Applications" and "Actions"
[04:24] <dotblank> I kinda like pulse It has promise but they need to add some support for spdif
[04:24] <shad0w0fsin> techno_freak: ping works
[04:25] <nickybatts> Ah heck, I'll install Mplayer as well I suppose
[04:25] <VicTheHunter> I also have a "Settings" menu under "All Applications"
[04:25] <sebsebseb> secret901: sure, but pulseaudio issues was more an Ubuntu fault
[04:25] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, do you have any other computer on the network? if so, is it able to access internet?
[04:25] <FAJ> Socialoutcast:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/64991/
[04:25] <vocx> VicTheHunter, at this time you should be taking screenshots of your desktop and posting them on imageshack or something. Maybe you can open the settings from the command line, that way is easier
[04:25] <dotblank> I wish linux in general would just stick to one good one
[04:25] <shad0w0fsin> yes, I'm using the other computer as a proxy to access the internet now
[04:25] <oly562> anyone good with ati cards? and settings? i can't seem to get my fglrx settings to work with 3d or better performance. i have the ati control panel set, but the 3d stuff is subdued...
[04:25] <Wavesonics> I have spent all day trying to get this server just to install :(
[04:26] <oly562> ati catalyst control center
[04:26] <VicTheHunter> Sounds good. How may I run imageshack?
[04:26] <oly562> x1400 radeon
[04:26] <Dorobo18jp> anyone have a weather screenlet that works ?
[04:26] <guesst> hello
[04:27] <vocx> oly562, if you upgraded to Ibex there may be issues with the old nvidia and ati drivers read the release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:27] <VicTheHunter> Do you think that since I just installed compiz, I should restart my computer?
[04:27] <shad0w0fsin> techno_freak: any ideas?
[04:27] <oly562>  lspci |grep -i x1400
[04:27] <oly562> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[04:27] <Codemaster> i'm having issues with non-legacy nVidia so ;_
[04:27] <esac> i set a proxy when i was at work, and it is being exported when i launch a new terminal. i cant figure out how to remove it now. any ideas?
[04:27] <zidane_tr> just use restricted drivers cos ati havent updated the ones on their site yet
[04:27] <nickybatts> Anyone know where I can get that Shining screen saver from?!
[04:27] <oly562> ibex?
[04:27] <nickybatts> Xjack or something?
[04:27] <dotblank> its weird like the nvidia-glx new doesnt seem to work
[04:27] <oly562> havent upgraded
[04:28] <vocx> VicTheHunter, imageshack is a web page not an application, you can use to post pictures, just like these text "pastebins"
[04:28] <oly562> working with Xorg as Xserver. i will pastebin the xorg.conf  ok?
[04:28] <n8tuser> esac-> which proxy did you launched?
[04:28] <shad0w0fsin> techno_freak: also another thing, the internet started working then randomly stopped
[04:28] <oly562> can you take a peak?
[04:28] <Frijolie> i need some help setting up IP filtering on my wifi enabled networked shared printer, any takers? It's pretty general question...
[04:28] <techno_freak> shad0w0fsin, not much clue
[04:29] <elninja> I have a synaptic touch pad that randomly will lose all of it's extra functionality(tapping to click, scrolling on right side for scroll wheel, etc.). The syslog reports that the touchpad lost sync and resynched. Anyone know what daemon or kernel module is responsible for that functionality, so I can just run a command to bring it back rather than restarting X?
[04:29] <VicTheHunter> If I leave this room (to restart my computer) and reenter, will I come back to where you all are?
[04:29] <vocx> VicTheHunter, compiz is already installed, what you did was to install the settings manager, but rebbot if you want to.
[04:29] <shad0w0fsin> anyone else have any ideas? my network works but internet doesnt on intrepid
[04:29] <oly562> can someone take a look at my xorg.conf. my ati 3d controls don't work in control center...
[04:29] <oly562> http://www.internetworkpro.org/pastebin/410/
[04:30] <oly562> thanks :)
[04:30] <n8tuser> shad0w0fsin-> you are using your system to chat now?
[04:30] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, you shouldn't need to restart your computer
[04:30] <LF|Irssi> how do i get the name or change the name of my computer?
[04:31] <boblemur> jaypro, how did you go?
[04:31] <jaypro> boblemur 8.10 still stalls
[04:31] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, but if you remember how to use pidgin to get here, then you should be able to
[04:31] <boblemur> where did it stop at?
[04:31] <oly562> xorg.conf works fine, just that the ati 3d controls arent letting me do GL screensavers like it should
[04:31] <oly562> real slow and laggy
[04:31] <Frijolie> i'll take that as a no
[04:31] <vocx> VicTheHunter, also to chat, pidgin is okay, but you should try "xchat"
[04:31] <jaypro> boblemur didnt see the splash screen, obviously, but it stalls just after it loads
[04:31] <q0r3> just installed 8.10.  managed to install the recommended nvidia driver from the repos, but it won't let me set my monitor's resolution to the max.  any ideas?
[04:31] <Kr0ntab> LF|Irssi: modify /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.. and reboot...
[04:32] <LF|Irssi> ok thanks Kr0ntab
[04:32] <jaypro> boblemur or after the splash screen when live cd is booted in the regular fashion
[04:32] <Flannel> !hostname | LF|Irssi
[04:32] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, I also concur with vocx, xchat is much better than pidgin, but one thing at a time ;)
[04:32] <boblemur> so what was the last message that came up?
[04:32] <q0r3> atually, the vga monitor only displays with twinview, not xinerama, which i'd rather use.
[04:32] <vocx> q0r3, problems with the drivers http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:33] <boblemur> have you tried graphics safe mode? what brand of computer do you hav?
[04:33] <VicTheHunter> Oh! I found compiz desktop effects manager! It's in my menu at All Applications>Settings>Advance Desktop Effects Settings
[04:33] <oly562> vocx not effected by legacy issue
[04:33] <oly562> thanks though
[04:33] <bullgard4> What is Linux's most often used audio response program / voice output program?
[04:34] <VicTheHunter> I'm seeing the options now, brb...
[04:34] <q0r3> vocx: thanks.  boblemur, was that directed to me?
[04:34] <Sjaki`> Quick question - how do I change my vnc4viewer resolution when I TightVNC into my Ubuntu server?
[04:34] <vocx> oly562, okay, just letting people know so they won't have to bang their had against a wall
[04:34] <td123> bullgard4: you mean music player?
[04:34] <Lancelot> anyone know how I can connect to an mIRC channel? Please PM me.
[04:34] <wers> what's the default window opacity setting and shadow opacity setting?
[04:34] <boblemur> q0r3 nah that was directed at jaypro
[04:34] <oly562> good move
[04:34] <bullgard4> td123: No.
[04:34] <oly562> vocx: do you know graphics well?
[04:34] <asdfma1> is it possible to cancel a package download part way through, while still installing the packages that were already downloaded, as long as their deps were downloaded too?
[04:34] <gnutronic> bullgard4: try festival
[04:35] <oly562> i dont know graphic cards, i just know how to get xservers running, but the fine tuning is where i lack knowledge
[04:35] <esac> how do i view/set exports in terminal ?
[04:35] <jaypro> boblemur havent tried safe mode. i just checked hardware info. thought it was 2.0 GHz but it's a 3.0 GHz. heh other pc
[04:35] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, awesome!
[04:35] <Flannel> bullgard4: voice output is festival
[04:35] <Sjaki`> Quick question - how do I change my (vnc4server) resolution when I TightVNC into my Ubuntu server?
[04:35] <bullgard4> asdfma1: Not advisable.
[04:35] <jaypro> boblemur intel celeron
[04:35] <q0r3> vocx: why would the restricted driver manager recommend that i install the proprietary driver if mine was one of the incompatible chipsets?
[04:35] <Kr0ntab> exac "env"
[04:35] <Kr0ntab> ack...
[04:35] <Kr0ntab> esac: "env"
[04:35] <asdfma1> bullgard4, why not?
[04:35] <boblemur> jaypro: is it a del? because my del dosent work on the live cd
[04:35] <plecebo> Installing Ibex and I need to edit my menu.lst, i'm in the live cd now. What happened to the "root (hd0,0)" how do I change it now?
[04:35] <Flannel> asdfma1: You can stop at the 'downloading' part.
[04:35] <vocx> q0r3, don't know, things change?
[04:36] <bullgard4> asdfma1: This attempt is a security risk.
[04:36] <Flannel> asdfma1: but once things are starting to install, its best to let it finish
[04:36] <oly562> are there any graphic or video card rooms for linux on NickServ?
[04:36] <asdfma1> Flannel: right, but will it still install the things that were already downloaded?
[04:36] <jaypro> boblemur really? heh strange. no it's not a dell
[04:36] <Flannel> asdfma1: no, it'll stop the process entirely.
[04:36] <boblemur> jaypro: i doubt its something to do with ur lack of power, as long as u have enough ram,  so it sounds like a graphics card thing
[04:36] <asdfma1> bummer
[04:36] <jaypro> boblemur its some pc that some small computer shop built
[04:36] <Sjaki`> Quick question - how do I change my (vnc4server) resolution when I TightVNC into my Ubuntu server?
[04:36] <donovan> #magento
[04:36] <Flannel> asdfma1: You could later go back and install the stuff that has been downloaded easily enough though.
[04:36] <asdfma1> it has taken all day to get this far, but there are still 2 more hours to go in downloading time
[04:37] <VicTheHunter> Wow, there are so many options in compiz settings manager. I'll need to try them out for a day.
[04:37] <asdfma1> Flannel, oh will it retain the downloaded things?
[04:37] <kthakore2> mattgyver83, what do u mean
[04:37] <bullgard4> asdfma1: Try to complete it unattended.
[04:37] <VicTheHunter> I really appreciate all your help, everyone.
[04:37] <Flannel> asdfma1: Its not going to delete them, yeah.  deb packages get cached
[04:37] <asdfma1> nice
[04:37] <boblemur> jaypro: kkz u could try graphics safe mode, which is just f4 on boot.. and chose graphics safe mode... have u tried an older version of the live cd??
[04:37] <q0r3> how do we access compiz fusion settings in 8.10?  apt-get ccsm?
[04:37] <oly562> the issue is i have my desktop set and it extends way to the right of the screen
[04:37] <oly562> other issue
[04:37] <asdfma1> unattended, bullgard4?
[04:37] <Flannel> asdfma1: if you stop it now and then continue tomorrow, you'll pick up where you left off too.
[04:37] <vocx> VicTheHunter, yes, got nuts with all the bling bling from compiz
[04:37] <boblemur> jaypro: btw are u trying it with intrepid?
[04:37] <jaypro> boblemur hrmmm.... strange tho, ive tried ti on two different pcs (but bought at the same shop) and they both cannot load 8.04 or 8.10
[04:37] <asdfma1> oh neato
[04:37] <oly562> sighs..
[04:37] <secret9011> someone was helping me with my graphic card problem.  I had to restart x. Who was it that helped me?
[04:37] <Flannel> !ccsm | q0r3
[04:37] <bullgard4> asdfma1: yes.
[04:37] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, haha, start by setting number of screens to 4 and get the enable the cube ;)
[04:38] <q0r3> ty
[04:38] <asdfma1> is it possible to have it find faster downloads?  it averages at 60kB/s
[04:38] <boblemur> jaypro: hmmm ok have u tried the alternate cd?
[04:38] <q0r3> "E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager"
[04:39] <Kr0ntab> asdfma1: use the torrents...
[04:39] <sebsebseb> secret901:  me?
[04:39] <Madpilot> asdfma1, everyone and their dog is attempting to download/upgrade Ubuntu at this minute...
[04:39] <asdfma1> Kr0ntab: how?
[04:39] <secret9011> sebsebseb: thanks
[04:39] <dpern> what software can I use to stream the desktop as a webcam?
[04:39] <woooooooooooooah> how do i reinstall a ethernet card?
[04:39] <jaypro> dont know what intrepid is, boblemur
[04:39] <Kr0ntab> !torrent | asdfma1
[04:39] <d3cryptkeyp3r> q0r3: just install them using the synaptic package manager and search for compizconfig
[04:39] <asdfma1> Madpilot: why is that?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> secret9011: uh your back with another name?
[04:39] <boblemur> jaypro: ohh its 8.10...
[04:39] <woooooooooooooah> intrepid broke networking even for the networking card that worked cause of a another card has issues
[04:39] <vocx> !intrepid | jaypro
[04:39] <Madpilot> asdfma1, um... because the new shiny just came out and everyone wants it?
[04:39] <jaypro> ohhh... hehe
[04:39] <q0r3> Flannel: ...yes.  i tried instalilng compiz-config settings manager.   i got the message that it doesn't exist.
[04:40] <asdfma1> oh really?
[04:40] <weew> cant install blueman on intrepid via apt-get return  blueman: Depends: libbluetooth2 (>= 3.14) but it is not installable  <--- who know something ??
[04:40] <asdfma1> shiny eh?
[04:40] <asdfma1> when did it come out?
[04:40] <jaypro> yeah ive tried both 8.04 and 8.10 intrepid
[04:40] <woooooooooooooah> nick scientes
[04:40] <q0r3> Flannel: nm, my client had scrolled up, thought you'd repeated yourself
[04:40] <Madpilot> asdfma1, away from release times, the Ubuntu repositories are pretty fast. At release time, not so much.
[04:40] <Madpilot> asdfma1, today
[04:40] <boblemur> jaypro: kkz and u get the same effect?
[04:40] <Flannel> q0r3: dashes the whole way through?  Let me check package names in intrepid
[04:40] <jaypro> ill try f4, like you said boblemur
[04:40] <asdfma1> oh
[04:40] <d3cryptkeyp3r> q0r3: did u look through synaptics rather then the terminal command?
[04:40] <oly562> brb
[04:40] <vocx> weew, bluetooth is broken in KDE 4, read the release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[04:40] <boblemur> jaypro: kks goodluck...
[04:40] <Flannel> q0r3: compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:41] <dpern> need software to stream desktop, ideas?
[04:41] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, you can set the desktop size under general options, then turn on enable both the cube, and cube rotate settings
[04:41] <asdfma1> is it possible to get apt to use torrents for the sources, or is that a bad idea?
[04:41] <jaypro> boblemur> no 8.04 shows a funny screen when live cd boots, its all fuzzy. 8.10 doesnt get to run live cd
[04:41] <q0r3> Flannel, d3cryptkeyp3r, i tried through the terminal, said it didn't exist.  the only package in synaptic with compizconfig is "compizconfig-backend-gconf", which is installed
[04:41] <weew> thanks  vocx
[04:41] <Madpilot> asdfma1, not set up for that
[04:41] <jaypro> okay
[04:41] <jaypro> thanks boblemur>
[04:41] <mattgyver83> kthakore2, i dont remember what i said.
[04:41] <asdfma1> thanks
[04:41] <jaypro> brb
[04:41] <q0r3> i'm reloading it
[04:41] <Madpilot> asdfma1, apt-torrent would be kind of cool, though.
[04:41] <Flannel> asdfma1: It is possible, try apt-p2p
[04:41] <Flannel> Madpilot: ^^
[04:41] <Wavesonics> god i wish some one could help me... I'm setting up a RAID 10 array with 4 disks, each disk as 2 partitions on it, 1 encrypted (for swap) and 1 set up for RAID10 by mdadm, and 1 disk as a standard ext3 /boot partition. I installed just fine to the RAID10 md0 device, but when I try and boot, the first encrypted swap partition is decrypted fine, and then the md0 encrypted RAID10 device is "not found"... How can I make it recognize my m
[04:41] <Wavesonics> ulti-disk device?
[04:41] <asdfma1> interesting idea
[04:41] <Madpilot> Flannel, oh cool
[04:41] <Flannel> asdfma1: I have no idea what the package does, or how you'd use it, but it does exist.
[04:42] <b33r> any known problems with 8.10 I should know about?
[04:42] <Flannel> b33r: Have you read the release notes?
[04:42] <b33r> yeah
[04:42] <d3cryptkeyp3r> and there's nothing else in synaptics with compiz in it using the search function?
[04:42] <aflack> how long does cleaning up take
[04:42] <asdfma1> if i downloaded ubuntu 2 days ago, would it make sense to download the new one and do a fresh install, or can i upgrade from the version i'm working in right now?
[04:42] <Flannel> q0r3: sounds like your sources.list isn't healthy
[04:43] <Flannel> asdfma1: just upgrade your currently installed version
[04:43] <Dezine> How can I uninstall flash 10?
[04:43] <Madpilot> asdfma1, you can do an upgrade in place
[04:43] <asdfma1> what's the best way to upgrade?
[04:43] <b33r> asdfma1, if you haven't messed with the 8.04 and it's still clean install I say upgrade you wont get any problems
[04:43] <Flannel> asdfma1: update-manager
[04:43] <dpern> how do I do a 'screen cast?
[04:43] <Flannel> !screencast | dpern
[04:43] <d3cryptkeyp3r> there should be several compiz related packages in synaptic
[04:43] <asdfma1> update-manager... is that a script?
[04:43] <Kr0ntab> Dezine: it depends on how you installed it...  did you install from the package manager?
[04:44] <Flannel> asdfma1: no, its the regular "You have updates" program that starts and lives on your panel
[04:44] <Madpilot> asdfma1, no, it's the GUI that manages updates & upgrades
[04:44] <bravo7> Right now i have 8.04 currently do i have uninstall stuff in order to upgrade
[04:44] <antdedyet> !ubuntu-keyring
[04:44] <q0r3> Flannel: it's a fresh install..
[04:44] <antdedyet> !keyring
[04:44] <antdedyet> !gpg
[04:44] <Dezine> To be honest, I don't even remember install the new version. I just know 10 is the one giving issues with wordpress so I just want to remove it to install the older one. I may have done it through firefox.
[04:44] <Flannel> q0r3: have you done `sudo apt-get update` since installing?
[04:44] <d3cryptkeyp3r> that is really weird
[04:44] <q0r3> Flannel: no, but i hit update in synaptic, it's going now
[04:44] <orudie> is open office 3 available ?
[04:44] <VicTheHunter> Hmmm... Under compiz general options, the number of desktops is fixed at 1.
[04:44] <Flannel> q0r3: Had you not done so before?
[04:44] <q0r3> Flannel: no.
[04:45] <Madpilot> ubottu, info ubuntu-keyring | antdedyet
[04:45] <q0r3> Flannel: it's still not there.
[04:45] <Dezine> I would think it was installed by a package
[04:45] <morrty> exit
[04:45] <morrty> oops
[04:45] <Flannel> q0r3: alright, pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[04:45] <oly562> what is synaptic by he way... i been wondering about that,,, package manager?
[04:45] <asdfma1> oh, so the regular updates gui will give me the upgrade?
[04:45] <bravo7> Ubuntu server is slow ? b/c off everyone updating and dling
[04:45] <Flannel> asdfma1: yep
[04:45] <vocx> !synaptic | oly562
[04:46] <oly562> ic
[04:46] <oly562> thanks
[04:46] <dpern> I don't need to record a screencast, I need it to be live via a simulated camera.
[04:46] <aslan> hey guys, just installed ubuntu intrepid and am running into issues with my MX Revolution mouse
[04:46] <bullgard4> gnutronic, Flannel: Thank you for your help.
[04:46] <asdfma1> oh, so I guess I already have it then... very smooth!
[04:46] <aslan> anyone been able to get that working?
[04:46] <Dezine> Alright, I see it in Synaptic, I'll try that
[04:46] <q0r3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64998/
[04:46] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, actually, set the "Horizontal Virtual Size" to 4
[04:46] <aslan> the middle button does not work correctly, it pulls up the tracker-search-tool
[04:46] <Madpilot> asdfma1, System->About Ubuntu will give you a version number/name
[04:46] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, leave the other at 1
[04:46] <RetrogradeCultur> where does xchat save it's download files?
[04:46] <dpern> the idea is screen -> virtual webcam -> flash -> live broadcast.
[04:46] <RetrogradeCultur> home dir?
[04:46] <Sjaki`> Could someone give me a quick command to type to give my 'sam' account permission in /usr/src to do everything
[04:47] <aslan> I disabled this by moving /usr/bin/tracker-search-tool, but middle click still doesn't work
[04:47] <bobgill> Would "export $HOME=/home/myuser" in my ~/.bashrc be setting my HOME environment variable ??
[04:47] <asdfma1> hmmm
[04:47] <asdfma1> it says "Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 8.04
[04:47] <asdfma1>                 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008"
[04:47] <Meshezabeel> RetrogradeCultur, check under the settings, it will tell you where its save location is
[04:47] <weew> anyone know how connect bluetooth heatset stereo :S !
[04:47] <RetrogradeCultur> ok thx
[04:47] <zidane_tr> anyone got their crossover keys yet?
[04:47] <aslan> bobgill: yes it would.. but that should be set automatically
[04:47] <Flannel> !pastebin | asdfma1
[04:47] <Flannel> asdfma1: Oh, sorry.  wrong person/etc
[04:47] <vocx> bobgill, yes, but that variable is already set for you, you don't need to change it unless you are doing something unusual
[04:47] <q0r3> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64998/
[04:48] <asdfma1> hehe
[04:48] <Meshezabeel> RetrogradeCultur, Settings -> Preferences -> File Transfers is probably what you are looking for
[04:48] <Madpilot> asdfma1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[04:48] <asdfma1> thanks Madpilot
[04:48] <shad0w0fsin> can anyone help me? in intrepid I can connect to and ping other computers on the network but I can't use the internet
[04:48] <Sjaki`> Could someone give me a quick command to type to give my 'sam' account permission in /usr/src to do everything
[04:48] <dpern> idea is screen -> virtual webcam -> flash -> live broadcast.  solution?
[04:48] <Flannel> q0r3: alright, now pastebin the output of this: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search compiz
[04:48] <bobgill> vocx: well it wasn't in my .bashrc.. it was an error showing in mythbackend startup
[04:49] <zidane_tr> make sure your gateway address is set correctly shad0w0fsin
[04:49] <Vinnonet> Anyone got a good ubuntu intrepid sources.list ?? the one in the ubuntuguide.org overlaps muti entrys :S
[04:49] <VicTheHunter> Ok, compiz Horizontal size is 4, and Vertical size is 1. Number of desktops is 1.  Am I on the right track?
[04:49] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: default route
[04:49] <vocx> Sjaki`, what do you want do to? We don't want to give you a command and then break you system.
[04:49] <Flannel> Vinnonet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64998/
[04:49] <weew> shadowofsin maybe u need check your dns
[04:49] <orudie> how can i install open office 3 ?
[04:49] <d3cryptkeyp3r> is anyone here by any chance using the intel 3945 wireless chipset?
[04:49] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: how are you getting your ip address?
[04:49] <shad0w0fsin> dhcp
[04:49] <shad0w0fsin> what do you mean by 'default route'?
[04:49] <Thayle> When attempting to install Ubuntu 8.10, I receive this error:iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_ADD_STA: time out after 500ms.
[04:49] <Kr0ntab> d3cryptkeyp3r: sure there's pleanty... I'm one...
[04:49] <Dezine> Any idea where I can get flash player 9?
[04:49] <aslan> Sjaki`: you can type "sudo chmod 777 /usr/src/" but this is very bad security
[04:49] <Vinnonet> Fr'Flannel, Thanks mate.
[04:50] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, yes, that looks great
[04:50] <Thayle> That then does not allow me to install ubuntu.
[04:50] <Dezine> The default it 10 and it's giving me all sorts of grief on wordpress
[04:50] <vocx> bobgill, maybe paste the entire error in a pastebin
[04:50] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: netstat -rn
[04:50] <Sjaki`> vocx basically I just want to extract some tar.gz into that folder, but i'm having trouble doing most things in most folders under the gnome environment and it's frustrating (permissions wise)
[04:50] <bobgill> vocx: http://pastebin.ca/1241338
[04:50] <mikematic> Hi everyone, Just installed samba but i get this error when i run this command. Does anyone know what to do ? Here is the command and error $ nmblookup -B mike SAMBA
[04:50] <mikematic> querying SAMBA on 127.0.1.1
[04:50] <mikematic> name_query failed to find name SAMBA
[04:50] <aslan> Sjaki`: just use sudo
[04:50] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin:  check /etc/resolv.conf has an appropriate name server
[04:50] <d3cryptkeyp3r> krontab: any word on the iwl drivers? i had a lot of problems with those drivers on 8.04
[04:50] <VicTheHunter> Thanks. How do I activate the window cube? Is there some hot key?
[04:51] <Sjaki`> aslan I can't because i'm using a GUI to do most of it - the file browser doesn't have a sudo option that I know of
[04:51] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, also, say my name if you are talking to me so that I get alerted (I'm attempting to multi-task) ;)
[04:51] <aslan> Sjaki`: open a terminal and run sudo nautilus
[04:51] <boblemur> jaypro: any luck?
[04:51] <Flannel> aslan, Sjaki`: it'd be gksu nautilus
[04:51] <VicTheHunter> Thanks, Meshezabeel.
[04:51] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, did you enable both the cube and cube rotate effects?
[04:51] <aslan> anyone familiar with evdev and setting up mice?
[04:51] <aslan> Flannel: sorry ya.. my bad
[04:51] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: hmm this is weird, my net has started working again, this happened before too, it just randomly starts working and then stops
[04:51] <jaypro> boblemur sweet! live cd works! but after i install the system, and booting it regularly, it wont have any graphics issues?
[04:51] <vocx> Sjaki`, you can do "gksudo nautilus" and have root access in a graphical way, but be careful. It's actually easier doing something like "sudo tar xvf my_file.tar.gz"
[04:51] <Sjaki`> what's xvf?
[04:51] <boblemur> jaypro: i cant garentee that,... but i didnt
[04:52] <Thayle> So that would be a: "Fuck ubuntu, stick with vista" on my problem?
[04:52] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: you have a dodgey router or network switch...
[04:52] <Flannel> Sjaki`: Is there any reason you need it to go in /usr/src/?  and it can't jsut be dealt with from your homedir?
[04:52] <q0r3> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65001/
[04:52] <jaypro> hrmm...okay. ill try it anyway hehe. thanks!
[04:52] <Thayle> Because I really don't want that...
[04:52] <d3cryptkeyp3r> sjaki xvf is part of the options used to extract the tarball packages
[04:52] <VicTheHunter> Yes Meshezebeel, I've enabled both cube and rotate effects...
[04:52] <chainsawbike> you guys should really make the ubuntu torrents easier to find - http was going to take me 4 hrs - the torrent - 10 minutes
[04:52] <boblemur> jaypro: after i installed it, my graphics probs went aways... but it make take a lil bit of expermienting
[04:52] <vocx> Sjaki`, read the man page for "tar" it means "extract files and be verbose"
[04:52] <asdfma1> anyone using external hauppage tv tuners with much success?
[04:52] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: everything worked fine until i upgraded to intrepid, and the internet works fine on other computers on the network
[04:52] <jaypro> ahh aight
[04:52] <Dezine> Anyone know where I can download the older version, 9, of Adobe flash? The latest one is the only one in the repos and it's buggy.
[04:52] <q0r3> Flannel: i don't know why that's happening... i didn't have anything else running
[04:52] <Madpilot> chainsawbike, there's a link off the main download page to torrents this time around, at least
[04:52] <lixujia> emonkey ?
[04:53] <Sjaki`> @ flannel, honestly, I'm very very new to Ubuntu and I've had problems for 2 days configuring something. So i've resigned myself to following the instructions step by step, right down to the directory the instructur uses
[04:53] <q0r3> Flannel: i'm doing it again
[04:53] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, if you click on the words that say "Rotate Cube" you should see a tab that says Bindings, this will give you different keyboard and mouse shortcuts
[04:53] <Sjaki`> @ vocx thanks
[04:53] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: are you using network manager to do your networking?
[04:53] <Guest23481> hai
[04:53] <chainsawbike> Madpilot, ... i must of missed it
[04:53] <Thayle> One more time: I get the iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_ADD_STA: time out after 500ms. error shortly after trying to install ubuntu, right after the orange bar loads.
[04:53] <vocx> bobgill, but how are you launching this app?
[04:53] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: yes
[04:53] <asdfma1> whoa, i cancelled my software installation download, and now it's proceeding with installation of stuff that downloaded. nice!
[04:53] <Flannel> Sjaki`: Wait, wait, If you're new, what are you compiling? Or a better question, what are you trying to configure/install/set up/etc?
[04:53] <Meshezabeel> typically, you can hold both left and right mouse buttons down on the desktop and then drag your mouse around
[04:53] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: configure your network manually for dhcp
[04:54] <Guest23481> good morning......
[04:54] <bobgill> vocx: it's mythbackend, it's one of the daemons on boot
[04:54] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: see if that helps
[04:54] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, (see last comment) and you can also use CTRL+ALT+Arrow Keys
[04:54] <d3cryptkeyp3r> how many of you guys have already upgraded to 8.10?
[04:54] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: what do you mean? do you mean using a static ip address?
[04:54] <vocx> bobgill, so if this is at boot time, then yes probably your HOME dir is not set. Probably need to locate a configuration file or something like that.
[04:55] <anniyan4u> can anyone here tell me what is kde-config???
[04:55] <Sjaki`> Flannel it's called pvpgn - it's a battle.net server software. i have to compile it and make install it manually, with mysql manually because the version in the ubuntu repo is nearly 1.5 years out of date
[04:55] <shad0w0fsin> d3cryptkeyp3r: I have
[04:55] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, also try CTRL+ALT+Left Mouse button
[04:55] <VicTheHunter> Meshezabeel, I've tried the <ctrl><alt>arrow keys, and also the <ctrl>f1-f4 keys, but the effects are now happening.
[04:55] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: no, use dhcp... hmm... that's right intrepid doesn't let you configure manually...
[04:55] <Dezine> Bummer, I guess I'll keep hunting on google
[04:55] <Flannel> Sjaki`: did you file a bug to get it updated?  Also, does debian have a newer version?
[04:55] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, now=not ?
[04:56] <vocx> Sjaki`, impossible how can it be that outdated, it maybe 6 months old, but a year, I just dont' believe it.
[04:56] <Sjaki`> Flannel I have seen a bug has already been filed, and what do you mean does debian have a newer version? Sorry. Also, do you mind if I pm you?
[04:56] <d3cryptkeyp3r> im still on 7.10... my wireless card stopped working completely using the new iwl drivers as opposed to the ipw ones
[04:56] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: So any ideas on what to do?
[04:56] <Sjaki`> vocx well, let me double check, I know it's older than november 07
[04:56] <Faithful> configure your /etc/network/interfaces and see if it keeps dropping
[04:56] <anniyan4u> ﻿can anyone here tell me what is kde-config??? i wanted to install a web editor
[04:56] <Flannel> Sjaki`: What version is the newest version?
[04:56] <Sjaki`> flannel 1.8.4
[04:57] <VicTheHunter> Meshezabeel, "now" incorrect. Should say "not" happening.
[04:57] <dpern> what's a quickway to change ip address on an interface?
[04:57] <billybigrigger> does anyone know why xchat or filezilla isn't in the repos any more?
[04:57] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, also try initiating it just on desktop wallpaper, just to make sure a program is not interfering
[04:57] <shad0w0fsin> xchat is
[04:57] <billybigrigger> or why xchat isnt even installed on a default ibex install
[04:57] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: have you got wireless as well?
[04:57] <Flannel> Sjaki`: Ah, even debian unstable has 1.8.1
[04:58] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: nope, right now I'm using another computer as a proxy to access the internet
[04:58] <VicTheHunter> Meshezebeel, Ok. I show that initiate has the hot key <ctrl><alt>button1 on mouse
[04:58] <Flannel> billybigrigger: both are in the repos.
[04:58] <Madpilot> billybigrigger, xchat is in Universe
[04:58] <billybigrigger> ahh
[04:58] <Sjaki`> Flannel Yeah, so you see my problem. I guess they have just not been updated, even though bugs have been submitted apparently.
[04:58] <Faithful> configure your /etc/network/interfaces and see if it keeps dropping
[04:58] <q0r3> Flannel: it worked, thanks :)
[04:58] <Madpilot> billybigrigger, but xchat hasn't been installed by default for a couple years - just Pidgin, which bites as an IRC client
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> what is it to build a personal deb package that you can remove cleanly if need be?  checkinstall?
[04:59] <VicTheHunter> Meshezebeel, Initiate hot keys did not work on the plain desktop background.
[04:59] <billybigrigger> i have universe enabled
[04:59] <Sjaki`> Flannel regardless, I have downloaded the 1.8.4 tar.gz manually, and plan to compile them for --with-mysql then make install them.
[04:59] <billybigrigger> i have all repos enabled and cant sudo apt-cache search xchat or filezilla
[04:59] <Xintruder> HI~
[04:59] <anniyan4u> need some help with kde-config... please pm me if anyone wants to help
[04:59] <billybigrigger> no returns for them for cli or synaptic
[04:59] <Flannel> Sjaki`: right, but you can do all that compiling from your homedir, also see:
[04:59] <Flannel> !checkinstall | Sjaki`
[04:59] <weew> anyone know how configure heatset stereo bluetooth ??????
[04:59] <vocx> billybigrigger, xchat was never installed by default, a long time ago there was xchat-gnome
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> thinking that even though Sjaki`s working with self-compiling, he can build himself a package
[05:00] <Faithful> shad0w0fsin: check your syslog/messages to see if your nic is going up and down
[05:00] <Madpilot> vocx, actually xchat was default on one of the very early Ubuntu releases
[05:00] <Flannel> vocx: xchat was installed by default.  xchat-gnome was never installed by default (and is a recent development anyway)
[05:00] <hosk> i need to set the media type of my wireless connection to 10baseT half-duplex, how do i do that
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> billybigrigger: they're both in the repos, have you done an apt-get update?
[05:00] <vocx> Madpilot, well, everything before Dapper in ancient heroic history
[05:00] <Flannel> billybigrigger: pastebin your sources.list
[05:00] <JohnRobe1t> how can I re-map keys on my keyboard so they behave differently, for example I want to make prnt scrn work like insert...
[05:00] <billybigrigger> Flannel: sources is good
[05:00] <vocx> Flannel, naaa, not possible, I recall xchat-gnome in dapper
[05:01] <Madpilot> vocx, some of us have been around that long, believe it or not :)
[05:01] <billybigrigger> Daisuke_Ido: no bloody servers are slow as hell, ill see what happens when it finished
[05:01] <billybigrigger> finishes
[05:01] <dpern> does 'Edit connection' work in networktools?
[05:01] <Flannel> billybigrigger: pstebin it please.
[05:01] <vocx> Madpilot, I know, I can tell you participated in xchat-gnome, right?
[05:01] <billybigrigger> Flannel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/65003/
[05:02] <Sjaki`> Flannel Thanks! I did not know about that. I will definitely do that. I'll go read the doc and come back if I have a problem.
[05:02] <Madpilot> vocx, honestly? xchat-gnome is awful, it's xchat crippled and made useless...
[05:02] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, the only other thing I can think of is that your Visual Effects is not turned on. Under gnome, I go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the Visual Effects tab, and make sure Extras is turned on.
[05:02] <msl> hello...room....
[05:02] <shad0w0fsin> Faithful: What should I be looking for, I see some messages about DHCP but thats it
[05:03] <Flannel> billybigrigger: alright, now pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search xchat`
[05:03] <Sjaki`> Flannel Another question, if I have your attention. I'm currently TightVNCing into my Ubuntu home server (which has no screen of its own) which runs vnc4viewer, but I want to increase the resolution. How would I go about this - do you know?
[05:03] <vocx> Madpilot, yes,
[05:03] <Flannel> Sjaki`: I have no idea :)
[05:03] <Sjaki`> Flannel thanks anyway :)
[05:03] <Thayle> No one knows what this means: iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_ADD_STA: time out after 500ms.?
[05:03] <billybigrigger> Flannel: im already apt-get update 'in its sloooooow right now ill see if i get anything when its done
[05:03] <msl> hello.....
[05:04] <dpern> when did canonical increase the support price?  its now $250.
[05:04] <hosk> i need to set the media type of my wireless connection to 10baseT half-duplex, how do i do that, man ifconfig doesn't give enough information
[05:04] <vocx> Thayle, maybe buggy driver
[05:04] <Thayle> vocx: What should I do then? It's making it impossible to install 8.10?
[05:04] <esac> anybody have an intel 4965 and has been having long pauses on their network? im seeing 20 second lags just pinging the gateway. i rebooted into windows and tried it and dont see the issue. any ideas?
[05:05] <vocx> Thayle, does it appear in the update manger window or in the terminal, maybe it just means that the servers are slow.
[05:05] <bravo7_> How i upgrade my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[05:05] <Flannel> !upgrade | bravo7_
[05:05] <VicTheHunter> Meshezabeel, Ok. Again, I really appreciate your help.  The next thing I'll try is to use GNOME and follow your steps. But I'll do that another day; I need to sleep now.
[05:06] <vocx> I have an idea, lets not chat anymore and put the freenode servers to mirror the ubuntu release, ha!
[05:06] <Thayle> vocx: Actually its when I'm installing from the CD. Right after the orange bar loads after selecting "Install Ubuntu" I get that error, and nothing happens after that.
[05:06] <phobiac> I just delted /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist using rm, is there any possible way for me to recover it?
[05:06] <Asdquefty> is the upgrade slow from all mirrors?
[05:06] <rww> Asdquefty: nope, some are faster than others
[05:06] <zidane_tr> whats the support like for fingerprint readers?
[05:07] <VicTheHunter> Good night everyone, y'all have been a great help.
[05:07] <skyfaller_ppc> hey everyone, can someone with operator powers on #ubuntu-powerpc go in there and fix the /topic to reflect that Intrepid Ibex has been released?  I'm not an op
[05:07] <rww> If you're in Gnome, System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From... [Other] > Select Best Server, may be useful
[05:08] <vocx> phobiac, nope. Maybe it's possible with forensics tools. But first check if there is a backup named /etc/modprobe/blacklist~  it may be hidden
[05:08] <Madpilot> Asdquefty, most of the sources are probably being hit pretty hard - upgrade frenzy
[05:08] <Flannel> skyfaller_ppc: #ubuntu-ops is the place for that request
[05:08] <phobiac> vocx: I did, there isn't a backup. This sucks.
[05:08] <phobiac> Anyone know how to rebuild the modprobe blacklist?
[05:08] <Meshezabeel> VicTheHunter, you are welcome, have a good night
[05:08] <Asdquefty> i think i am going to wait, at least a few days, maybe until 9.04, i dunno
[05:08] <skyfaller_ppc> Flannel: thanks
[05:08] <Thayle> vocx: No idea?
[05:08] <Asdquefty> i dont know what 8.10 has over 8.04
[05:09] <vocx> skyfaller_ppc, but PPC is not an official release is it? It is community maintained.
[05:09] <Flannel> vocx: That's correct.
[05:09] <vocx> Thayle, bad CD, bad hardware, buggy Ubuntu? When something bad like that happens, it must be a bug.
[05:10] <vocx> phobiac, that's why you should edit your system files with "vim", it always makes backups
[05:11]  * HorizonXP thinks Ubuntu should automatically choose the best package server, and not have to wait for him to select it himself
[05:11] <Thayle> vocx: The cd doesn't have defects and I've tried three different CDs, and two different versions (32 and 64 I mean).
[05:11] <phobiac> vocx: I wasn't editing, I had recently rm'd a file and thought I had sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but it was sudo rm
[05:11] <HorizonXP> i just downloaded the package i was waiting for the last 2 hours for, in like 20s with the new server
[05:11] <Sjaki`> Flannel sorry to bother again, and a very noobish question incoming: what's my homedir
[05:11] <phobiac> There's no way to rebuild the modprobe blacklist?
[05:11] <Sjaki`> Flannel or rather, where is it
[05:11] <Nitro`> /home/name
[05:12] <rww> Sjaki`: unless you did something wierd and special, /home/yourusername
[05:12] <Sjaki`> Thanks guys
[05:12] <Asdquefty> Sjaki`, run cd with no argument, then "pwd -P"
[05:12] <Asdquefty> it should show you the string
[05:12] <Sjaki`> And there is no reason I can't checkinstall and auto-apt configure something to go into my homedir, rather than a default location which could be out of my permissions range?
[05:12] <ezzieyguywuf> so i've recently (past week) done a fresh install on linux mint elyssa (based on ubuntu 8.04). is ibex a big enough upgrade to warrant doing another fresh install? i got no beef with ubuntu over mint, i just went with mint for the built-in codec support really, but its nothing a few apt-gets won't fix in ubuntu. so, is ibex worth it?
[05:12] <dan_> Hello all, Assistance required: I wish to insert a number at the beginning of each line, and i want the numbers to increment also ... s/^/1/  then s/^/2/ etc ... (This is a SED related or maybe AWK ?)
[05:13] <Flannel> Sjaki`: ~/ is the same as /home/username/
[05:13] <vocx> Thayle, then it could be a bug, you may file it in Lauchpad, or search for it, search the exact error message in google also
[05:13] <Sjaki`> Flannel oh! so that's what that means. Thanks
[05:13] <vocx> Sjaki`, also try "echo $HOME"
[05:13] <Asdquefty> dan_, it's done with SED, usually
[05:13] <Guest23481> what is skype
[05:13] <Sjaki`> Thanks vocx
[05:13] <ezzieyguywuf> Guest: it is an internet phone/video service. similar to an instant messanger but with voice and video streams instead
[05:14] <aliask> Got a (hopefully) easy question for someone familiar with ALSA. How do I get it to output to /dev/dsp1 rather than /dev/dsp?
[05:15] <vocx> dan_, yes, seems like it can be done in awk, because it can loop easily, but I do not know the exact syntax. You may need to read the manual in this case.
[05:15] <therealnanotube> hi people! so how's intrepid? :)
[05:15] <bravo7> I;m stuck on "Setting new software channels" Calculating the changes
[05:16] <bravo7> Does it take that long?
[05:16] <dan_> vocx: thanks mate .. trying a sed solution atm i'll see how that goes first
[05:16] <ezzieyguywuf> ﻿so i've recently (past week) done a fresh install on linux mint elyssa (based on ubuntu 8.04). is ibex a big enough upgrade to warrant doing another fresh install? i got no beef with ubuntu over mint, i just went with mint for the built-in codec support really, but its nothing a few apt-gets won't fix in ubuntu. so, is ibex worth it?
[05:16] <Owner_> hi how can i check the logs or see what the last packages installed/removed were?
[05:16] <therealnanotube> dan_: what are you trying to do? (i just came in, didnt see earlier posts)
[05:17] <Wavesonics> can you convert an ext3 partition to be full encrypted?
[05:17] <vocx> dan_, if you care I think you can get answers in ##bash or similar channels
[05:17] <dan_> Hello all, Assistance required: I wish to insert a number at the beginning of each line, and i want the numbers to increment also ... s/^/1/  then s/^/2/ etc ...
[05:17] <Lokian> how does everyone like 8.10?
[05:17] <dan_> vocx: yeh i chatted at #sed infact
[05:17] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: It is a big jump.  And you should use Ubuntu instead of mint.  We don't support mint here, they have their own channel
[05:17] <Owner_> Lokian: I love it
[05:17] <les> ezzieyguywuf: if you're happy with what you have stick with it. ibex is a bit zippier than hardy and has some new goodies like xorg 7.4, DKMS, private directorys, gnome 2.24, etc
[05:17] <CaptainShanks> Lokian: Its sweet :D
[05:17] <Wavesonics> Lokian: I havent got it installed yet, but it looks nice :)
[05:17] <les> if you don't care about that stuff then don't bother
[05:18] <Lokian> i'm installing it now...so i'm anticipating it all
[05:18] <Owner_> Lokian: sooo much faster
[05:18] <clearzen> Wavesonics: use truecrypt
[05:18] <bravo7> I;m stuck on "Setting new software channels" Calculating the changes
[05:18] <Owner_>  how can i check the logs or see what the last packages installed/removed were?
[05:18] <bravo7> Does it take that long?
[05:18] <kiyiko> vuse issue: i closed my torrent tab, and i have no idea how to open it again.
[05:18] <kiyiko> *vuze
[05:18] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: i wasn't asking for mint support, simply for some advice
[05:18] <Wavesonics> clearzen, i can do that after it is all installed? I was trying to do an physical encrypted volum, but it's just so effed... i've been trying all day... got it instaled but wont boot
[05:19] <ezzieyguywuf> does anyone know if the supsend issues with ATI have been fixed in ibex? i feel like they were REAL close in hardy
[05:19] <ubuntujj> Anyone install intrepid??  When I run ubiquity crashes every time.  The traceback says:
[05:19] <therealnanotube> dan_: python: linecounter = 1; for line in open(file): line = str(linecounter) + line; open(newfile).write(line); linecounter +=1
[05:19] <ubuntujj> TypeError: GtkButton.set_label() argument 1 must be string, not None
[05:19] <vocx> ezzieyguywuf, read the release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810  There are some issues with resuming but I think with wireless drivers.
[05:19] <Owner_> nevermind
[05:20] <Lokian> see you all on the 8.10 side
[05:20] <Lokian> time for the install
[05:20] <ezzieyguywuf> vocx: thanks. i'll check it out
[05:20] <dan_> therealnanotube: thanks mate :-D but trying to shell script this thing
[05:20] <Wavesonics> what is the Ubuntu site to request a change in the distro?
[05:21] <ubuntujj> I downloaded from the ubuntu site using bittorrent and the check disk integrity works fine.
[05:21] <therealnanotube> dan_: hehe, if you're allowed to use sed, are you also allowed to use "python -c 'commands'"? :)
[05:21] <d3cryptkeyp3r> im kind of reluctant to take the leap and install 8.10 and not have my wireless card working as with 8.04
[05:21] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: Aye.  And I was just mentioning it.  Intrepid has new versions of everything, etc.  You can find a better list here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview
[05:22] <funkygibbon> gyaresu molests tonka trucks
[05:22] <funkygibbon> true story
[05:22] <therealnanotube> Wavesonics: launchpad, or maybe brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[05:22] <clearzen> Wavesonics: dI found this it should help I think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto7
[05:22] <homerj> was it compiz or the ubuntu packagers, who got rid of the airplane animation in compiz?
[05:22] <Ven]n> hey
[05:22] <vocx> dan_, I can't recall, but there is this command to produce a list of sequential integers, right in your terminal, I don't recall
[05:22] <dan_> therealnanotube: hmmm i'll hold onto your gem of a code snipet .. and if sed doesn't come through i'll give it a go !!
[05:22] <Wavesonics> I want RAID10 support in the installer!
[05:22] <homerj> that was a killer feature
[05:22] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: thanks for the link. I'm not finding a lot of documentation on any ATI suspend updates...
[05:23] <homerj> I got to use the magic lamp effect like some sort of putz
[05:23] <Ven]n> on this mirror i got.. it says ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso               28-Oct-2008 16:51  699M
[05:23] <therealnanotube> dan_: heh ok :) good luck :)
[05:23] <dan_> vocx: yeh its `seq initNUM inc finalNUM`
[05:23] <ezzieyguywuf> homerj: i bet it was ubuntu b/c i'm pretty sure its still an option on regular ol compiz
[05:23] <Ven]n> on this mirror i got.. it says ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso               28-Oct-2008 16:51  699M . is that the final release? even though it says 28th?
[05:23] <therealnanotube> so, intrepid: any experience for support of ati mobility radion 9000? (hardy's livecd barfed on it)
[05:24] <vocx> dan_, yes, exactly
[05:24] <snorby> !ati
[05:24] <Sorcererbob> therealnanotube: last time I needed linux to work with a radeon card (x300) I had to write my own xorg.conf
[05:24] <therealnanotube> Ven]n: i guess that means they didn't make any changes to the release candidate after that date.
[05:24] <lawstudent>  which would be the lightest java app to run on my 2G Surf eeepc?
[05:24] <Ven]n> therealnanotube, http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/8.10/
[05:24] <lawstudent> ... to run a .jar file
[05:25] <vocx> therealnanotube, the realease notes say they are droping support for some of those cards 9500 and I don't recall
[05:25] <mattgman> has anybody got ventrilo to work?  forums aren't helping me at all
[05:25] <therealnanotube> Sorcererbob: heh, i have no problem with writing xorg.confs, just not writing my own video drivers. :)
[05:25] <tritium> Why does a BBC article I clicked once from "Latest Headlines" in firefox become a permanent fixture in my location bar history, even if I delete it, or delete all of my private data?
[05:25] <Owner_> how can I connect to my wireless network from command line, messed up smt need to fix it but I need internet
[05:25] <therealnanotube> vocx: quickie link to the release notes that mention that, pls? :)
[05:25] <ezzieyguywuf> eff, it ,i'll just download the iso overnight and give it a run
[05:26] <ezzieyguywuf> you guys have convinced me (hardly!) lol
[05:26] <therealnanotube> snorby: i don't care for binary drivers, i'm just fine with oss ati driver
[05:26] <Madpilot> ezzieyguywuf, torrent the ISO, much faster than downloading
[05:26] <vocx> therealnanotube, seriously man, I've been pasting this all night http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[05:26] <therealnanotube> vocx: lol tx :)
[05:26] <ezzieyguywuf> ubuntu is such a fun distro! on the same note, i gave kubuntu a try about two weeks ago. i really did not like it! is that common, for gnome users to not like the kde stuff or what?
[05:26] <john> hey does anyone know how to install 8.10 from a thumb drive?
[05:26] <oly562> anyone know ati cards and how to get opengl working properly, for example to make screensavers work properly
[05:26] <Ohmu> package manager says I already have apport.  but the command line doesnt find it, and I can t see an icon anywhere.  where is it?
[05:27] <mattgman> i hate gnome, ezzieyguywuf
[05:27] <ezzieyguywuf> madpilot: yea? i always just downloaded cuz i figured it was safer (not bits and pieces, ya know, 'bits')
[05:27] <cafuego> Ohmu: it runs as service, see /etc/init.d
[05:27] <therealnanotube> vocx: ah, that's just for the binary blob driver. i want the oss ati driver. any news on that one?
[05:27] <Ven]n> Guest46466, unetbootin
[05:27] <Rolcol> Is there a way to only have one nautilus window open at once and just create a new tab automatically?
[05:27] <mattgman> other way lol
[05:27] <mattgman> i hate kde, love gnome
[05:27] <lawstudent> when i do apt-cache searh java-virtual machine, Ii see openjdk-6-jre-headless, saplevm, sun-java5-jre, and sun-java6-jre
[05:27] <mattgman> just need ventrilo working!!!
[05:27] <vocx> therealnanotube, ah, nope, I guess it's the same, with no 3D.
[05:27] <Madpilot> ezzieyguywuf, torrents are safe - and way faster than downloading, trust me
[05:27] <lawstudent> what's the diff between the 4 of them?
[05:27] <lawstudent> which is the lightest?
[05:28] <ezzieyguywuf> mattgman: really? i guess i've just never used kde. i didn't like the look (everything seemed too big) and i really wasn't used to the apps is uses. I do like the way it handles window focus behaviour though, that was off the hook
[05:28] <therealnanotube> vocx: the ati driver on feisty has directrendering... are you saying they dropped it ?
[05:28] <Guest46466> Ven]n, thanks!
[05:29] <zidane_tr> i prefer downloading from my isp cos its unmetered :D
[05:29] <vocx> therealnanotube, to be honest I don't know what I'm talking about, I don't do nvidia nor ati. I just thought I read something about it.
[05:29] <mattgman> ezzieyguywuf: well have you checked out the effects with gnome?  pretty much the same
[05:29] <zidane_tr> ati suck nvidia rule thats all u need to know :P
[05:29] <mattgman> zidane_tr: i second that
[05:29] <zidane_tr> well under linux anyway
[05:29] <therealnanotube> vocx: ah heh ok. :) what do you have for a video card, then, btw?
[05:29] <zidane_tr> ati :P not by choice though
[05:30] <oly562> my card is supported
[05:30] <mattgman> zidane_tr: running a geforce 8800 gts myself
[05:30] <oly562> x1400 radeon
[05:30] <vocx> therealnanotube, and are you sure it had direct rendering? Then why all the blobs?  I have the mighty all powerful VIA chipset!
[05:30] <therealnanotube> zidane_tr: the foss ati driver has directrendering, the foss nv driver does not. in my book, that means nvidia suck, ati rule. :)
[05:30] <billybigrigger> how come xchat2 isnt in repos? but xchat-gnome is?
[05:30] <zidane_tr> yeah i got a 9800GT in desktop that im about to switch over to ubuntu
[05:30] <mattgman> does anybody game here?!  wondering if they have got ventrilo working.  i've tried the forums, no help there
[05:30] <zidane_tr> im arranging to swap this laptop with another laptop that has an 8600GS in it
[05:30] <oly562> so... anyone know how to get 3d working on ati card properly
[05:30] <ezzieyguywuf> mattgman: yea, 'pretty much' being operative there. in KDE you can set different clicks to raise windows, whereas in compiz (whichi'm using now, and has more options than gnome i think) you can only set the click to either raise it or not. if not, you're forced to using the titlebar. i know it seems trivial, but it makes a diff to me :-D
[05:31] <zidane_tr> what version of ubuntu u running oly562?
[05:31] <therealnanotube> vocx: not only am i sure it had direct rendering, i'm sure it /has/ direct rendering on feisty, because I'm currently running feisty. ;) ah via, cool. unfortunately,,, i don't think my laptop will take a replacement video card that's not the same as the original. :)
[05:31] <chris__> greetings, I just installed 8.10 and my wireless (ar5007eg) does not work, is not detected perhaps, have tried installing ndis with no luck, any suggestions or help with this would be great.
[05:31] <oly562> anisotropic and anti-aliasing are subdued in ati catalyst control center
[05:32] <oly562> 8 zidane_tr
[05:32] <oly562> its xorg
[05:32] <spreeOfTheUndead> I hear ghosts! woooooooOOOOOooooooooo
[05:32] <lawstudent>  if i need to run .jar files do i need java virtual machine? I ask because my 2G eeepc has only 200 mb of free space and installing sun-java6-jre will use 103mb!!!
[05:32] <zidane_tr> 8.04 or 8.10?
[05:32] <Deeta> @chris: I think the ath5k driver was blacklisted for some reason in 8.10 .. no clue why though.. the forums may have some threads on it
[05:32] <cish_enci> chris__, I have problem like u, u can install driver from madwifi
[05:32] <spreeOfTheUndead> Happy Halloween #Ubuntu
[05:32] <ezzieyguywuf> oly: is ati catalyst installed by default?
[05:32] <oly562> doesnt matter, xorg config is using fglrx
[05:32] <bazhang> !offtopic | spreeOfTheUndead
[05:32] <vocx> therealnanotube, that explain it. But the free ati driver can't possible support all cards, otherwise there would be no contest.  By the way, the via card sucks, no 3D either...
[05:32] <billybigrigger> Flannel: you there?
[05:32] <oly562> no, using proprietary bin loaded it
[05:32] <oly562> from ati
[05:32] <spreeOfTheUndead> bazhang, you are so not getting any candy
[05:32] <therealnanotube> vocx: aha, here's a linky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[05:32] <chris__> Deeta: might have been the one that was causing hardware damage :(
[05:32] <oly562> included fglrx driver
[05:32] <oly562> http://www.internetworkpro.org/pastebin/410/
[05:33] <oly562> have a look at the xorg.conf
[05:33] <therealnanotube> vocx: supports 3d, just "not as fast" as the fglrx driver.
[05:33] <billybigrigger> Flannel: i have xchat-gnome from apt-cache search xchat after my sudo apt-get update but how come no xchat2 or filezilla?
[05:33] <chris__> cish_enci: did that correct the problem for you?
[05:33] <zidane_tr> all my ati settings are working fine oly562 and i only installed the restricted drivers
[05:33] <Deeta> @chris: Nah, the hardware damage one was some intel thingie
[05:33] <rigel> where does ubuntu normally put the cgi-bin directory?
[05:33] <vocx> lawstudent, that's right, java is big!
[05:33] <Chester> hi ppl
[05:33] <oly562> zidane_tr: where do i get the restricted drivers?
[05:33] <oly562> i dont know that means by the way, restricted
[05:33] <lawstudent> vocx: i see.
[05:33] <portablejim> Does anyone now about the addon cd for Intrepid??
[05:34] <rigel> i'm using /var/www as my web root but it doesnt have a cgi-bin dir, can i just create one and modify a config file or what
[05:34] <zidane_tr> just goto system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[05:34] <oly562> honestly i dont know video cards, just know how to get xserver running on most unix and linux os
[05:34] <Chester> Actually, i load my iwlagn driver by the console ... i dont really know why but thats a fact
[05:34] <Deeta> @oly562: restricted means that the driver is not free software or opensource
[05:34] <Chester> i want to load it automatically at the boot
[05:34] <oly562> kde or gnome
[05:34] <zidane_tr> what Deeta said :P
[05:34] <therealnanotube> rigel: yes
[05:34] <Chester> how can i do this
[05:34] <oly562> Deeta: thanks
[05:34] <Wavesonics> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15043/
[05:34] <vocx> lawstudent, perhaps there is a way to only get a minimal java stack, with only the classes you'll need, but I'm not sure on how to proceed on that
[05:34] <rigel> therealnanotube: do i need to modify a config file, if so which one?
[05:34] <Rolcol> Is there a way to only have one nautilus window open at once and just create a new tab automatically?
[05:34] <oly562> << gnome gui
[05:35] <rigel> and who should be the owner/group of the cgi-bin directory?
[05:35] <oly562> put it this way, when i run the screensavor it is real slow and laggy...
[05:35] <billybigrigger> Rolcol: i dont think nautilus supports tabs, correct me if im wrong though
[05:35] <Wavesonics> anyone who is interested, please take a look and vote up: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15043/
[05:35] <Intey> ur wrong
[05:35] <therealnanotube> rigel: you probably will need to modify the apache config... but maybe not. don't know what the default config it comes with is.
[05:35] <oly562> but i do get full screen res, and my desktop is wider than the screen, another thing i do not like
[05:35] <Rolcol> billybigrigger: intrepid's version of nautilus supports tabs :D
[05:36] <Intey> gnome +nautilus do
[05:36] <therealnanotube> rigel: i suggest you check the apache documentation (assuming you are using the apache httpd server), for details and suggested configs
[05:36] <Intey> ^
[05:36] <billybigrigger> Rolcol: wow, didnt know that :P
[05:36] <chris__> Deeta: any suggestions as to what I might try to get this up and working
[05:36] <oly562> so has anyone seen why those controlers do not work in ati catalyst control center?
[05:36] <billybigrigger> Rolcol: hah, thats sweet (just had to check for myself)
[05:36] <trupheenix> i'm trying to develop device drivers on Ubuntu using the Linux device drivers book. However I cannot find some of the required headers as mentioned in the book. Can anyone help me out?
[05:36] <oly562> anti and anisotropic not working?
[05:37] <Rolcol> Now... to find out if it's possible to only allow ONE window open..
[05:37] <oly562> subdued controls.
[05:37] <tritium> trupheenix: which ones?
[05:37] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: what headers?
[05:37] <Deeta> @chris: No not really, I only remeber seeing "* ath5k blacklisted" in the changelogs. I myself have a rtl8185 wifi card. But threre must be a solution out there :D enough people with ath5 cards around :D
[05:38] <oly562> i used this bin to load the ati driver:   ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run
[05:38] <cish_enci> chris__, yes u can search from google with the keyword madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3861-20080903
[05:38] <trupheenix> tritium: modules.h
[05:38] <chris__> cish_enci: thanks
[05:38] <oly562> fired up Xserver with xorg.conf, it worked fine, good res, but screensavors are the test,,, opengl one's do not work, very slow laggy
[05:38] <tritium> oly562: please don't.  ubuntu packages nvidia and ati drivers.
[05:39] <oly562> dont? what
[05:39] <d3cryptkeyp3r> so i take it people are already having problems with the wireless cards in 8.10?
[05:39] <tritium> oly562: don't use downloads off of ati.com.  Use ubuntu packages.
[05:39] <Batsmasher> hey can you install 8.10 with wubi 8.04
[05:39] <cish_enci> chris__, welcome
[05:39] <Batsmasher> ?
[05:39] <oly562> ic
[05:39] <tritium> trupheenix: and that's part of what?
[05:39] <jim_p> oly562: glxinfo | grep direct                                       please install ati and nvidia drivers from the repo
[05:39] <oly562> whats the difference? can you explain
[05:39] <oly562> thanks jim_p
[05:40] <trupheenix> tritium: that's part of the SKULL device driver in the book
[05:40] <oly562>  glxinfo |grep direct
[05:40] <oly562> direct rendering: No
[05:40] <oly562> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:40] <tritium> oly562: the ubuntu packages are under package management.  What you intsalled is not.
[05:40] <oly562> is
[05:40] <oly562> opps ic
[05:40] <FloodBot3> oly562: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <shad0w0fsin> argh, not sure what you call it but I can't type to quickly select a directory in nautilus on intrepid, is this normal?
[05:40] <jim_p> oly562: the packages in the repos are "build-to-fit" the kernel the distro has, that means less trouble like yours
[05:40] <Deeta> @oly: the difference is that ATI and other corps often are not that enthusiatic about GNU/Linux support and thus produce packages that are real likely to screw things up. The ubuntu packages have been tested and tweaked for stability though
[05:41] <Batsmasher> Hi, can you install Intrepid with wubi 8.04
[05:41] <Batsmasher> ?
[05:41] <tucuna> intrepid's nautilus thinks my ext usb hdd is a picture cd, so when viewing the contents of the disk the GUI changes as if you were looking at picture cd (a 500GB CD!!) any ideas?
[05:41] <tritium> !ati | oly562
[05:41] <Rolcol> tucuna: It thinks the same about my 8GB flash drive
[05:41] <tsampik0s> .irc.gr
[05:41] <oly562> Deeta: on what hardware though... im on a dell laptop... is there a list where to see what laptops and card combos have been tested on the net?
[05:41] <zidane_tr> i had to do a fresh install Batsmasher
[05:41] <jim_p> Batsmasher: no, because some "apps" that do the install need to be updated for 8.10
[05:41] <sunil> I'm rungning ibis on a laptop. Trouble is, is that ubuntu seems to ignore my /etc/hosts file half the time
[05:41] <tucuna> Rolcol - how annoying - what can we do?
[05:41] <oly562> thanks ubottu
[05:42] <sunil> What could be going on?
[05:42] <jim_p> oly562: what vga are you on? i am on ati, i can help you
[05:42] <tritium> oly562: regardless of hardware, please use ubuntu packages rather than downloads off of ati.com, nvidia.com, or any other place.
[05:42] <Batsmasher> Ok thanks looks like I'll need to wait :)
[05:42] <Rolcol> tucuna: Don't know.  Have you explored the preferences?
[05:42] <JeremyBicha> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition shows a picture of an expanded help menu, does anyone know why I have the old "Help and Support" ?
[05:42] <zidane_tr> anyone know how to up the sound output a bit more, its bloody quiet on laptop
[05:42] <oly562> thanks tritium i heard you the first time
[05:42] <sunil> I've edited the hosts file so that I can access a testing web server, sitting in my flat
[05:42] <oly562> jim_p: ill pm you, really picky bots in here
[05:42] <tucuna> Rolcol - doing that now :)
[05:43] <tritium> oly562: you asked what hardware.  I answered.
[05:43] <Wavesonics> I FINIALLY HAVE 8.10 SERVER RUNNING!!!
[05:43] <sunil> after I edited the hosts file, I can ping the external server from the ibis laptop, if I ping it by its name
[05:43] <brandon_m_pace> zidane_tr: right click on the volume control and click  Open volume control
[05:43] <oly562> tritium: dont get personal,i have been askin the same question for an hour, and i havent blow up yet
[05:43] <brandon_m_pace> zidane_tr: then hit preferences and check everything
[05:43] <CaneToad> I read that 8.1 is supposed to be able to install onto a USB drive.  Straightforward?
[05:43] <tritium> Nothing personal about my reply.
[05:43] <sunil> But, if I try access the server from firefox on the laptop, the request is answered by apaache on the laptop
[05:44] <brandon_m_pace> zidane_tr: then turn stuff up and down as you like
[05:44] <zidane_tr> yeah im not silly brandon_m_pace, just thought there might have been something to boost the preamp or something
[05:44] <brandon_m_pace> ah
[05:44] <L84supper> anyone know about VIA 3D unichrome support for 8.10? openchrome with 2D is the only supplied driver at the moment
[05:44] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: looking at this: http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ch03.html it doesn't seem that they refer to a "modules.h" at all.
[05:44] <ChurleyEater> I've been trying to get my Atheros wireless card working in my laptop.  I am totally new to Linux, and all the help I've found online has led me no where.  I was trying to get something called madwifi to work, as it supposedly supports my card, but I've had no luck.  CAn anyone help?
[05:44] <vicho-> Hello there, I need help with my ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid
[05:44] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to start mplayer on a desktop remotely via ssh by using DISPLAY=:0 mplayer /path/to/file  when I do this mplayer cant seem to connect to X stating "vo: couldn't open the X11 display (:0)" and then later on "E: client-conf-x11.c: XOpenDisplay() failed"  I've fixed this in the past but I cant remember how.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:44] <tritium> vicho-: what about it?
[05:45] <sunil> I can ping the test server, I get a response. But if do a GET, the GET fails
[05:45]  * tucuna reboots
[05:45] <brandon_m_pace> ChurleyEater: what version are you using? 8.04 or 8.10
[05:45] <gbolte> hello
[05:45] <vicho-> tritium: I can't connect to internet, and no matter what i try, when i do 'iwconfig' on a terminal it always says that the device the card is on is 'unassociated'
[05:45] <ChurleyEater> brandon: how can I check the version?
[05:46] <rww> Anyone know how I can turn a Wubi install into a "fully" partition install?
[05:46] <sebsebseb> rww:  you can't
[05:46] <tritium> ChurleyEater: lsb_release -a
[05:46] <gbolte> I have a computer with an ATI video card and every time I load up the latest drivers from their site Xorg fails to load and the computer crashes
[05:46] <sunil> ChurleyEater: I have spent many days trying to get an atheros wifi adaptor to work. I went to great lengths. I eventually gave up.
[05:46] <sebsebseb> rww: you have to install it properly from CD
[05:46] <sebsebseb> rww: with partitions
[05:46] <L84supper> anyone know if there will be 3d VIA unichrome support for 8.10?
[05:46] <zidane_tr> just backup your files and start again rww, even if you could it would probably cause more issues
[05:47] <ChurleyEater> brandon: thanks, it's 8.04(.1)
[05:47] <vicho-> tritium: I can't connect to internet, and no matter what i try, when i do 'iwconfig' on a terminal it always says that the device the card is on is 'unassociated'
[05:47] <ChurleyEater> sunil, damn, sounds bleak.
[05:47] <tritium> vicho-: I saw that.  Peculiar...
[05:47] <demism> hi, I have ubuntu installed on another computer on my network. And I just installed ubuntu on this comp. I'd like to access that computers cache so that I don't take forever downloading any tips?
[05:47] <sunil> ChurleyEater: I do, however, wish you luck. You might suceed where I have failed.
[05:47] <Flannel> billybigrigger: filezilla is in universe, just like xchat.  xchat2 isn't in the repos.
[05:48] <vicho-> i searched through internet with no luck whatsoever, that's why i'm here
[05:48] <therealnanotube> demism: cache of what, in particular? like the browser cache?
[05:48] <sunil> ChurleyEater: An ubuntu howto I found says that the atheros chipsets work with ease.
[05:48] <tritium> vicho-: that's odd.  ipw2100 works quite well normally
[05:48] <sunil> But I've lost all faith in wifi under ubuntu
[05:48] <brandon_m_pace> ChurleyEater: go download the new 8.10  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[05:48] <demism> therealnanotube: the stuff I've downloaded from the repos, the *.deb files
[05:48] <brandon_m_pace> try that
[05:48] <ChurleyEater> sunil, yeah, I found such things as well.  But I'm a total noob (TOTAL, I'm not hyperbolizing here).
[05:48] <billybigrigger> can someone lend a hand here, im trying to compile the newest xchat and i get an error saying...checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[05:48] <vicho-> is there a know bug for this realease, because in version 8.04 it worked just fine
[05:49] <therealnanotube> demism: ah, ok, in that case, apt-proxy will be your friend.
[05:49] <tritium> sunil: no, it works.  (I'm using it now.)
[05:49] <billybigrigger> so then i apt-get install glibc-2.7.1 and try and run ./configure again and i still get the same error, tried installing build-essential and still nothing
[05:49] <demism> therealnanotube: apt-proxy do I run this on server or client machine?
[05:49] <sunil> tritium: that is somewhat encouraging
[05:49] <gbolte> the end of the log where it crashes looks like http://rafb.net/p/dNeM7964.html
[05:49] <brandon_m_pace> sunil: Atheros chips are supported really well in linux
[05:49] <therealnanotube> demism: there's also apt-cacher
[05:49] <homerj> billybigrigger, you need the -dev packages
[05:50] <vicho-> so, anyone can help me?
[05:50] <billybigrigger> homerj: glibc-dev?
[05:50] <Gumby> does anyone here know how to enable a ssh client to start a program that uses X on the host PC
[05:50] <sunil> I've got an acer laptop with an atheros chipset. I've never managed to get it working
[05:50] <therealnanotube> demism: apt-proxy should run on the server (the guy that does the initial downloads)
[05:50] <ChurleyEater> brandon, I installed my version of Ubuntu using WUBI.  Won't that prevent me from just going ahead and installing a new version of Ubuntu, or can UI do it with ease from the WUBi installed version of Ubuntu I'm using?
[05:50] <therealnanotube> apt-cacher - don't know, check the docs. :)
[05:50] <billybigrigger> n]
[05:50] <therealnanotube> demism: apt-cacher - don't know, check the docs. :)
[05:50] <billybigrigger> homerj: there is no -dev for glib
[05:50] <billybigrigger> glibc
[05:50] <bingungaja> anyone using ubuntu 8.10 got nvidia issues ? i try to activate the nvidia drivers and the download pop up seems to freeze and nothing happen (please see the screenshot here http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=48695778oa8.png )
[05:50] <bingungaja> anyone using ubuntu 8.10 got nvidia issues ? i try to activate the nvidia drivers and the download pop up seems to freeze and nothing happen (please see the screenshot here http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=48695778oa8.png )
[05:50] <vicho-> anyone having trouble with a ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid?
[05:50] <brandon_m_pace> !upgrade | ChurleyEater
[05:51] <billybigrigger> bingungaja: im having the same problem
[05:51] <ChurleyEater> Brandon, thanks!  I'll read that link.
[05:51] <bingungaja> DC ..... anyone using ubuntu 8.10 got nvidia issues ? i try to activate the nvidia drivers and the download pop up seems to freeze and nothing happen (please see the screenshot here http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=48695778oa8.png )
[05:51]  * gbolte feels he is being ignored
[05:51] <zidane_tr> bingungaja no need to spam we can see your messages
[05:51] <Flannel> !repeat | bingungaja
[05:51] <vicho-> anyone having trouble with a ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid?
[05:51] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: some nvidia cards don't work right now. You will have to wait until nvidia fixes their driver
[05:51] <homerj> yeah
[05:51] <bingungaja> sorry, dc, not intend to repeat
[05:51] <tritium> billybigrigger: linux-libc-dev?
[05:52] <brandon_m_pace> !notes | bingungaja
[05:52] <therealnanotube> billybigrigger: libc6-dev
[05:52] <homerj> my wifi light flashes on activity and it annoyed the hell out of me
[05:52] <sunil> tritium: are you using madwifi ?
[05:52] <vicho-> anyone having trouble with a ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid?
[05:52] <homerj> and I forget the kernel option to shut it off
[05:52] <Sjaki`> Hi there guys, I just used auto-apt and checkinstall to install a package in my home directory (/home/sam/pvpgn) however when exploring these folders in GNOME they are all locked, and I can't change them. How do I give the user 'sam' permissions to do everything to all files inside the pvpgn folder?
[05:52] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: read that look at the nvidia notes
[05:52] <tritium> sunil: no, the module is "ipw2100"
[05:52] <zidane_tr> bigungaja try changing your software source, thats what i had to do to get mine working
[05:52] <brandon_m_pace> sunil: I am using Ath5k for mine
[05:52] <bingungaja> brandon_m_pace : ok
[05:52] <bingungaja> !notes
[05:52] <Sjaki`> Flannel would you be around to help with this one perhaps?
[05:52] <vicho-> anyone?
[05:53] <Ohmu> If anyone replied, please reply again.  My net just came back up.
[05:53] <sunil> I might try to get mine going again sometime soon.
[05:53] <tritium> sunil: actually, I just booted up my thinkpad with atheros, and it is using madwifi (ath_pci) just fine
[05:53] <Flannel> Sjaki`: Did you use sudo to put stuff into that folder?
[05:53] <sunil> wow
[05:53] <bingungaja> brandon_m_pace : oh i saw the release note, but i think they stated, it support for pentium3 up (mine is intel core2duo)
[05:53] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Anyone know the apt-get install command to run in Terminal to install Smuxi chat client ? ?
[05:53] <Sjaki`> I ran the command sudo checkinstall, so yes i suppose I did.
[05:53] <vicho-> anyone having trouble with a ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid?
[05:53] <sunil> I've installed ubuntu 3 times, and I haven't had such luck
[05:53] <Flannel> !repeat | vicho-
[05:54] <tritium> sunil: it was worked for several releases
[05:54] <therealnanotube> nite_johnboy: probably someting along the lines of "sudo apt-get install smuxi" ?
[05:54] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm trying to update from 7.10 to 8.04 and then to 8.10. I am having a heck of a time. I'm trying to get this back to a client tomorrow. When i run the cdromupgrade from the alternate 8.04 disks i get a file not found for the tarball
[05:54] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: scroll down to the notes about nvidia
[05:54] <Bearcat> ... holy crap i think i fixed it!
[05:54] <Sjaki`> Flannel - I ran the command sudo checkinstall, so yes i suppose I did. (incase you missed it)
[05:54] <Bearcat> you guys are awesome!! Thanks!!
[05:54] <sunil> tritium: maybe I messed up the install, or messed up during my attempts to get it running.
[05:54] <therealnanotube> Bearcat: share the fix? ;)
[05:54] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: right below "Upgrading"
[05:55] <gbolte> I wonder if I should try to upgrade to 8.10 and try atidrivers again
[05:55] <sunil> I've failed to get it running in both hardy and intrepid
[05:55] <gbolte> then
[05:55] <gbolte> :D
[05:55] <vicho-> anyone having trouble with a ipw2100 wireless card on intrepid?
[05:55] <nite_johnboy> therealnanotube: tried that already - get an error - can't get locked packages.
[05:55] <Flannel> Sjaki`: right.  When you're dealing with stuff in your homedir, you don't use sudo.  BAsically, you used root to put stuff into your homedir, so now its owned by root.  Do this: sudo chown -R sam:sam /home/sam/pvpgn
[05:55] <therealnanotube> vicho-: it doesn't look like it. maybe you'll have better luck posting on the forums...
[05:56] <bingungaja> brandon_m_pace : that's mean we must wait for nvidia :(
[05:56] <Bearcat> therealnanotube: well, when i tried to log into the hard drive with the 8,04 disks and ran adept it complained that it was missing a python lib for the updating tool. When i did the same thing with the 8,10 disk it worked. I am now updating to 8.04.
[05:56] <bingungaja> brandon_m_pace : and god know when :(
[05:56] <Flannel> Sjaki`: that'll change the ownership to those files (and all ones inside of it) back to you.
[05:56] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: lol yep
[05:56] <vicho-> ok, thanks anyway
[05:56] <brandon_m_pace> bingungaja: hopefully it's within the week but you never know
[05:56] <Sjaki`> Flannel - LIFESAVER! Thanks. Another lesson learned. I appreciate your help (again) mate!
[05:56] <apachex> necesito ayuda con mi ubuntu
[05:57] <bingungaja> brandon_m_pace : thx brandon
[05:57] <red22> i'm trying to do an offline upgrade from the alternate cd but it keeps trying to connect to download about 450mb of packages.. it seems to give you an "offline" upgrade option, but it keeps trying to connect..  i first tried an "online" update but then canceled and then tried an "offline" but it's not paying attention.  do i need to delete some files somewhere or maybe some sources option to get it back to normal?
[05:57] <therealnanotube> Bearcat: cool :)
[05:57] <brandon_m_pace> you're welcome bingungaja
[05:57] <tritium> apachex: ask your question in English, please.
[05:57] <therealnanotube> !es | apachex
[05:57] <apachex> no español
[05:57] <node357> on my "hda intel" sound card, line-in is not working in Ubuntu! any help?
[05:57] <tritium> apachex: no, not here
[05:57] <apachex> gracias
[05:57] <vicho-> apachex, qué pasa?
[05:57] <therealnanotube> apachex: de nada :)
[05:57] <tritium> vicho-: not here, please.
[05:57] <vicho-> ok
[05:59] <JeremyBicha> does anyone else have the expanded Help menu in the Gnome System menu?
[05:59] <Bearcat> therealnanotube: *bows* yes, i am awesome. You need not say it aloud. :")
[05:59] <Wavesonics> is "ftp" a defualt user I cna use to run vsftpd?
[05:59] <therealnanotube> Bearcat: lol :)
[06:00] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: i tried the very first hello world module in the book. my compiler says cannot find linux/module.h and indeed it isn't there in /usr/include/linux what am i doing wrong?
[06:00] <node357> on my "hda intel" sound card, line-in is not working in Ubuntu! any help?
[06:00] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: aha, linux/module.h is a lot different than just "module.h". you need the linux kernel headers.
[06:00] <HorizonXP> q0r3: it worked, i'm running with nvidia-glx-177
[06:01] <HorizonXP> !clone
[06:01] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: ok
[06:01] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: so where do i get them from?
[06:01] <chris__> exit
[06:01] <chris__> quit
[06:01] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: i'm guessing it's already in /usr/src ?
[06:01] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[06:01] <mr_flea> I just updated to 8.10, and I'm trying to use the restricted nVidia drivers, but when I press "activate" in the restricted drivers manager, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might be going on?
[06:02] <Bearcat> therealnanotube: should have seen me last night. I was playing with the route command, tearing apart my router settings downloading drivers and i kept getting the damned "no route to host" message. This went on for 2 hours.  I..uh..had forgotten to plug in the network cable.
[06:02] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: with sudo, of course
[06:02] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: i already have it
[06:02] <therealnanotube> Bearcat: haha good one :) happens to all of us on occasion
[06:02] <foorilious> I installed 8.10 RC1 64bit earlier and gave me my highres display correctly, but I just reinstalled with 8.10 final 32bit and I'm stuck in low res
[06:02] <Socialoutcast> whats a good firewall besides firestarter?
[06:02] <Madpilot> Bearcat, Rule Zero of troubleshooting: Is it plugged in? Are you sure? Are you reallly sure?
[06:02] <Sorcererbob> iptables, Socialoutcast
[06:02] <node357> mr_flea: I also have that problem but apparently no one feels like helping
[06:02] <foorilious> mr_flea, node357, I have it too
[06:03] <node357> that sucks
[06:03] <mr_flea> node357, foorilious: I think I just found out why mine doesn't work. The repositories aren't in the sources.list.
[06:03] <Bearcat> Madpilot: and i used to do tech support. Funny how we don't follow the training we give others.
[06:03] <rstlne> I am having trouble with sound after updating to 8.10 . any one know how to fix this?
[06:03] <mr_flea> I temporarily edited my sources to use a faster mirror.
[06:03] <Sammy> hi all, please help me I have trouble with this :  snx_install.sh
[06:03] <node357> mr_flea: I have repos in sources.list and nvidia still doesn't install
[06:03] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: i already have that package installed
[06:03] <Wicked> !restricted
[06:04] <node357> and nvidia no longer supplies Linux drivers on their site
[06:04] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: how ever when i checked under /usr/src/linux..../include/linux i found module.h over there
[06:04] <Sammy> syamsul@samsul:~/Documents$ vi  snx_install.sh
[06:04] <Sammy> syamsul@samsul:~/Documents$ ./snx_install.sh
[06:04] <foorilious> mr_flea, node357: I fixed it by running update manager, letting it install the kernel updates, and rebooting.  after that apt-get works right, and the nvidia driver thing works right
[06:04] <Ben_Cs> hello
[06:04] <Ben_Cs> what does it mean when i try to apt-get upgrade, and it tells me some packages are kept back? why are they kept back and not upgraded?!
[06:04] <node357> okay foorilious, thanks
[06:04] <Socialoutcast> how do u config iptabes in gnome?
[06:04] <node357> I still have a sound problem though
[06:05] <node357> this is the 3rd card I've tried and people still have no clue about audio in Ubuntu including me
[06:05] <brandon_m_pace> !notes | mr_flea node357  foorilious
[06:05] <foorilious> node357: I had hella sound problems.  killing pulseaudio fixed them :)
[06:05] <brandon_m_pace> mr_flea node357  foorilious if you read in there under Upgrades it talks about the issue
[06:05] <node357> thanks brandon_m_pace
[06:05] <extor> If I want to block China or Iran, and I use .htaccess through something like http://blockacountry.com , then how much slower than iptables or php/geoip will everything be? Will that huge text file slow apache down to a crawl compared to mod_geoip or php/perl based geoip?
[06:05] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: hrm... you need some symlinks, but i don't recall which ones. :)
[06:05] <node357> foorilious: mine is, line-in won't work
[06:05] <node357> i doubt it's a pulseaudio problem, but I could try to disable it
[06:06] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: :(
[06:06] <dewa> gak
[06:06] <node357> well I guess I'll forget about Ubuntu, thanks anyway
[06:06] <brandon_m_pace> node357: have you tried going to System>preferences>Sound and changing the input from the default ALSA to pulseaudio or something else?
[06:06] <Bearcat> quick question. if i upgrade to 8.10 will that automatically upgrade this installation to kde4?
[06:07] <dewa> common
[06:07] <Sorcererbob> Bearcat: yesm
[06:07] <vicho-> node357: I'm thinkin' about that too :(
[06:07] <dewa> joint
[06:07] <brandon_m_pace> ALSA is acting up lately
[06:07] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: maybe a symlink /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-VERSIONNUMBER/include
[06:07] <Bearcat> Sorcererbob: cool.
[06:07] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: or just /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-VERSIONNUMBER/
[06:07] <Bearcat> Sorcererbob: there *still* isn't an irc client for qt4/kde4 is there?
[06:07] <Sorcererbob> don't know, sorry
[06:07] <node357> still doesn't work
[06:08] <shasbot> I recently ran into some hefty grub errors, and ended up resizing my old installation partition and installing ibex on a new one, i'd like to be able to use the old partition for /home, without losing any of the data currently on that partition, is this possible? and if so, how should i go about it?
[06:08] <node357> sorry vicho-.. guess now isn't the time
[06:08] <node357> maybe in a year
[06:08] <node357> see ya
[06:08] <trupheenix> therealnanotube: yes yes.. sounds like a good idea
[06:08] <therealnanotube> trupheenix: try it, see what happens :)
[06:09]  * Bearcat is a die-hard sourcemage fan, but there is no way he would put his clients or his mate on it.
[06:09] <johnf> how do you get aptitude to not install Suggests: ?
[06:11] <jim_p> johnf: use apt instead :P
[06:12] <Mrono> i'm trying to resize my xp ntfs partition and i need some help
[06:13] <brandon_m_pace> Mrono: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php    use this
[06:13] <Mrono> i used ntfsresize to put it from 100gb to 45gb but it still says partition is 100gb yet windows only reads it as 45gb
[06:13] <Mrono> it won't let me change the size
[06:13] <brandon_m_pace> you should always use that live cd I linked
[06:13] <jim_p> Mrono: use gparted and you are done
[06:13] <Mrono> when i hit the move/resize and try to drag the edges nothing happened
[06:13] <brandon_m_pace> it works
[06:13] <havoc_> Hey guys
[06:14] <havoc_> I just installed ubuntu
[06:14] <el2king> hi guys
[06:14] <havoc_> and enabled the propietary driver
[06:14] <havoc_> now there's a whining noise coming out of my case
[06:14] <el2king> are there a lot of people here also having wireless problems, just as i have seen on the forums?
[06:14] <rstlne> anyone know how to help with  sound issues. all i can hear is crackle. ive been working on this for quite a bit of time and any information would definitely help
[06:14] <havoc_> I think my GPU fan is on max or something
[06:14] <brandon_m_pace> havoc_: ati? or nvidia?
[06:14] <havoc_> yeah
[06:14] <havoc_> Nvidia
[06:14] <havoc_> made by ASUS
[06:15] <brandon_m_pace> rstlne: have you tried to use 8.04? are you using 8.10?
[06:15] <rstlne> i upgraded from 8.04 today
[06:15] <rstlne> to 8.10
[06:15] <Mrono> jim_p it's just ntfsresize then gparted?
[06:15] <sekyourbox> apt update and xorg updates today?
[06:15] <brandon_m_pace> rstlne: and it was fine before?
[06:15] <rstlne> yes
[06:15] <Nikke> can i take more than one screenshot on a second?
[06:16] <jim_p> Mrono: gparted by itself will do the resize
[06:16] <brandon_m_pace> Mrono: You ONLY want to use the gparted live cd so you don't mess anything up, and defrag BEFORE you resize http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:16] <Mrono> jim_p what do i do if it won't let me resize it
[06:17] <brandon_m_pace> Mrono: you're not trying to use gparted in ubuntu are you?
[06:17] <Mrono> brandon: the ubuntu 8.10 live cd won't let me do it?
[06:17] <el2king> so, any solution or idea about the wireless problem?
[06:17] <brandon_m_pace> Mrono: use that live cd I linked to above
[06:17] <Mrono> alright
[06:17] <giri> hai
[06:18] <giri> hai
[06:18] <jim_p> Mrono: well try it
[06:18] <Mrono> what can i do if i have a bad sector
[06:19] <Sjaki`> Flannel: You wouldn't have time to help me with another problem would you, perhaps?
[06:19] <Flannel> Sjaki`: Best to ask the channel, anyone who knows the answer will answer, etc.
[06:19] <rstlne> brandon_m_pace:  do you have any idea what the problem could be
[06:20] <Wavesonics> in 8.10, how do I enable apache user directories?
[06:20] <brandon_m_pace> rstlne: no but I'm willing to bet that within a week there will be an update to fix it. If not then, soon
[06:20] <jim_p> !xinerama
[06:21] <jim_p> !dualhead
[06:21] <Flannel> Wavesonics: They're likely already enabled, but sudo a2enmod userdir, then restart.
[06:21] <Flannel> Wavesonics: that is, restart apache
[06:21] <rstlne> brandon_m_pace: Thanks then, i guess ill just wait it out and see what happens
[06:22] <Sjaki`> Flannel - okay, here goes. I'm still trying to install a fresh copy of pvpgn as I have been the last few hours. I installed a copy to /usr/local a while ago but removed that since with the make uninstall option, though it did leave some things behind. Now I have it installed in /home/sam/pvpgn however when i start the process (called bnetd) it still believes all the required files are in /usr/local/var not /home/sam/pvpgn (even though the la
[06:22] <Sjaki`> tter is where it, and all its files reside). Is there some extraneous file that tells bnetd where to look for its files that I need to alter?
[06:22] <ziroday> Hi, I am getting kernel panics on the new intrepid kernel but am fine in the old kernel
[06:22] <Sjaki`> Sorry for the wall of text.
[06:22] <brandon_m_pace> rstlne: that's the way a lot of things go when you upgrade within the first month of a release
[06:22] <carpeliam> does /boot need to be the very first partiton on the disk?
[06:22] <Sjaki`> sorry, not /usr/local/var - just /usr/local
[06:23] <havoc_> Hey, does anyone know how to install older drivers that doesn't come up, in ubuntu's "hardware drivers" option?
[06:23] <rstlne> brandon_m_pace: yeah this is my first upgrade i should have figured it would have been a little shaky and waited a bit
[06:23] <brandon_m_pace> havoc_: use the add/remove
[06:23] <billybigrigger> im having trouble compiling the newest xchat, i get an error while running ./configure...configure: error: "Cannot find glib"          so i then sudo apt-get install glibc-2.7.1 and i still get the error, i even tried to install build-essential and still the same error, where am i going wrong?
[06:23] <havoc_> thanks
[06:24] <Sjaki`> Flannel + everyone else - nevermind, I think I may have found my solution.
[06:24] <Wavesonics> Flannel: thanks! All working now :)
[06:24] <crdlb> billybigrigger: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[06:24] <jtmoney> is anyone here familiar with fakeraid (firmware-based raid)? i'm wondering why it's recommended that it NOT be used with ubuntu... if i set up a simple RAID1 (mirrored) array, would i not be able to take one of the drives and use it with a new RAID controller, if need be?
[06:24] <trupheenix> can anyone help me with device driver development on Ubuntu?
[06:24] <Ohmu_> I need to run gnome-ppp as root for it to work.  Can I make this happen when I just click on the icon like launching any other app?
[06:25] <Naisenu> Quick question regarding Update Manager. I can't "check" unchecked packages. (e.g. "xserver-xorg-core).
[06:26] <Wavesonics> is "ftp" a default user in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Wavesonics> this I can have vsftp run by mr. "ftp" instead of "root"?
[06:27] <RickZilla> So, what do I do if the install can't find 4 of the files it needs?
[06:27] <brandon_m_pace> !raid | jtmoney
[06:28] <jtmoney> brandon_m_pace: thanks, and i read that... i'm just not sure how a RAID1 created with one controller would be incompatible with another... all it's doing is making a bitwise copy of a hard drive, it's not like it's striping data
[06:28] <brandon_m_pace> I'm not sure either
[06:29] <carpeliam> how do i move my windows partition in the installer so that i have room at the beginning of the disk for a /boot partition?
[06:30] <__mikem> DBO: I need your help
[06:30] <vega> carpeliam: is there need for a /boot partition anymore nowadays? don't think so..
[06:30] <JeremyBicha> Naisenu, you can probably upgrade that package with Synaptic, unchecked packages like that often mean that something needs to be uninstalled at the same time to upgrade
[06:31] <carpeliam> vega, i at least need grub to be at the beginning of the disk, right?
[06:31] <jascott> how do i start my python script when ubuntu server loads?
[06:31] <vega> carpeliam: hm, my grub is installed in the MBR, which i think is default, not at the beginning of some partition
[06:31] <Gokee2> Well, I decided to "upgrade" to 8.1  Now I have non-working nvidia drivers.  Anyone happen to know if a nvidia 8600 gts needs 96 173 or 177?  (I will try and go find it myself but this computer is not easy to use without my main one working
[06:31] <havoc_> I downloaded an older graphics driver, how do I start using it?
[06:31] <Hentay> !ant
[06:32] <Gokee2> !nvidia
[06:32] <trupheenix> !devicedrivers
[06:32] <jascott> !rc.local
[06:32] <Hentay> !ANT
[06:32] <jascott> im trying to start some py code in rc.local but its not working
[06:33] <Sammy> hi all please help me how to install SNX extender??/
[06:33] <jascott> what is that?
[06:33] <Naisenu> JeremyBicha: While I'm at it ... how do I get rid of the "Partial Upgrade" message from that thing?
[06:33] <carpeliam> vega, i guess i'll just hope then :) i had installed ubuntu at the tail end of the non-boot HD, and got "error 18", a little reading mentioned "A 'separate  /boot' partition  is only useful for curing GRUB error 18 in older computers, by forcing the kernel to be located close the the beginning of the hard disk"
[06:33] <havoc_> Gokee2, I have the 8600 too, do you get a wierd high pitched noise coming out of the case?
[06:34] <spiritssight1> how does ubuntu handle nvida 7100 ?
[06:34] <JeremyBicha> Naisenu, that's the same thing
[06:35] <Naisenu> JeremyBicha:  okay ... there were a number of upgrades i unchecked since we never use the stuff like bluetooth and printing
[06:35] <jarco> i have a weird problem. situation: New install with ibex. Only compiz running. The zero key at the numerical keyboard doesnt type a letter it just selects the next letter/number/space. Any solutions for it?
[06:35] <brandon_m_pace> !notes | spiritssight1
[06:35] <f3tal3r0r> hello guys, i am currently trying to install ubuntu 8.10 on my system i previously used windows vista (its still running now), and everything runs fine but i would like to enable the nvidia driver i have tried envyng installing manually and the autoupdate im running dual nvidia 8800GT OC BFG 512mb cards on an asus a8n 32 sli mobo with an amd FX-57 processor
[06:35] <trupheenix> tritium: hi i'm not able to compile my simple device driver on Ubuntu
[06:35] <brandon_m_pace> spiritssight1: read under Upgrades
[06:35] <vega> carpeliam: hrm okay, possible then that you have a special case..  i remember those kinds of things like 5+ years ago with LILO, but never had any trouble with grub
[06:35] <brandon_m_pace> spiritssight1: it talks about nvidia there
[06:36] <brandon_m_pace> !notes | f3tal3r0r
[06:36] <Gokee2> havoc_, No, its pretty quiet (at least I think it is....  with two computters a laptop and 5-6 hard drives going its a little hard to tell)
[06:36] <vega> seems like every second question is about the nvidia drivers..
[06:36] <brandon_m_pace> f3tal3r0r: : read under Upgrades
[06:36] <carpeliam> vega, well i'm hoping that it was because ubuntu was installed on a separate physical disk. does that sound probable?
[06:36] <brandon_m_pace> f3tal3r0r:  it talks about nvidia there
[06:36] <f3tal3r0r> !notes
[06:36] <Naisenu> vega: nvidia drivers work well here :)
[06:36] <havoc_> Gokee2, mine's making this loud noise, I think the fan is set on max or something
[06:36] <Gokee2> havoc_, What driver do you use?
[06:36] <vega> carpeliam: i think it should work with grub in the MBR
[06:37] <havoc_> Gokee2, 8600GT
[06:37] <Gokee2> havoc_, Hmm my brother had that problem with a newer nvidia hard a while back.  I think he fixed it with a newer driver then ubuntu had
[06:37] <havoc_> I googled it and apparenly I have to revert to the old 169 driver
[06:37] <bingungajaa> does anyone can confirm whether wine is available for YM 9 or not ? been googling, some says ok, some says no .. confused
[06:38] <Gokee2> havoc_, Hmm?  drivers are the 177 173 and 96
[06:38] <havoc_> but I don't know how to use the driver
[06:38] <f3tal3r0r> okay i have read that, my proc supports sse and my cards are not legacy they are almost brand new and listed under supported
[06:38] <jim_p> havoc_: is it on a laptop?
[06:38] <havoc_> jim_p, it's on a desktop
[06:38] <nite_johnboy> Is there a way to install Google Toolbar in Firefox 3 - Running Hardy/with Gnome desktop ? ?
[06:39] <jim_p> havoc_: oh, sorry, ignore my question
[06:39] <f3tal3r0r> Users of other nVidia chipsets that are supported by the 173 or 177 driver series will be transitioned to the nvidia-glx-173 or nvidia-glx-177 package instead. However, unlike drivers 96 and 71, drivers 173 and 177 are only compatible with CPUs that support SSE (e.g. Intel Pentium III, AMD Athlon XP or higher). Systems with older CPUs will also be transitioned to the nv driver on upgrade.
[06:39] <f3tal3r0r> im not auto transitioned
[06:39] <JeremyBicha> Naisenu, you probably ought to upgrade that stuff even if you don't use it because it will keep bugging you and if there was a security problem you may still be vulnerable since you have the stuff installed
[06:39] <ktemkin> I seem to be having an odd issue with volume control since upgrading to Intrepid this morning
[06:39] <ktemkin> it seems to 'stick'
[06:40] <bingungajaa> f3tal3r0r	Users of other nVidia chipsets that are supported by the 173 or 177 driver series will be transitioned to the nvidia-glx-173 or nvidia-glx-177 package instead. However, unlike drivers 96 and 71, drivers 173 and 177 are only compatible with CPUs that support SSE (e.g. Intel Pentium III, AMD Athlon XP or higher). Systems with older CPUs will also be transitioned to the nv driver on upgrade.  ----- mine is intel core 2 duo, but still can't
[06:40] <bingungajaa> activate the drivers :P because mine is geforce which not supported,am  i right ?
[06:40] <ktemkin> i.e. it acts like the key is still down even after it's released
[06:40] <ktemkin> I originally thought it was a problem with the gnome-applets included in this release, but it seems to only be with those specific keys
[06:40] <Wavesonics> if I want to have a user able to edit /var/www what group should I put him in?
[06:40] <Gokee2> havoc_, Wow, you must be a prophet...  I got the driver to work and as soon as I started x my video card spun up
[06:40] <Sammy> hi man how to install libcpc++-libc6.1-2.so.3??
[06:41] <f3tal3r0r> when i activate the drivers and reboot i get no displays found error
[06:41] <Guest_233> I have an arthos wireless card and 8.10 detects it but how do you get it to show up in the network manager
[06:41] <havoc_> Gokee2, I've had this problem for a while now, Nvidia are morons for not testng their card
[06:41] <Gokee2> havoc_, This card has been working great for almost a year
[06:41] <havoc_> Gokee2, under windows yeah?
[06:42] <bingungajaa> havoc_ : u are facing no 3D for nvidia ?
[06:42] <vega> does anyone have problems with youtube videos in intrepid/firefox, they only seem to play for 2 sec, then stall regardless of the video
[06:42] <Gokee2> havoc_, No under ubuntu gutsy and hardy
[06:42] <havoc_> hmm
[06:42] <havoc_> Gokee2, and you never had any fan probs?
[06:42] <havoc_> bingungajaa, nah, I think the fan is stuck on max
[06:43] <Gokee2> havoc_, None.  in fact it was really easy to get working when I first installed gutsy
[06:43] <sunil> Hi guys. I've got a problem with my ibis laptop. I'm not getting name resolution within my local network.
[06:43] <bingungajaa> havoc_ : ha ? got really confused now, actually, ubuntu 8.10 not supported for nvidia geforce now right ?
[06:44] <sunil> When I try to get web service from a server within my network, I get service from the server on my laptop instead
[06:44] <sunil> I've set up the host files on both pc correctly
[06:44] <havoc_> bingungajaa, I dunno, but using the propietary drivers the fans get sex on max, but the 3D works, without the pripietary drivers the fan is normal, but no 3D
[06:45] <sunil> But when I put [mylocalserver] in the browser nav bar, I get service from the localhost instead
[06:45] <f3tal3r0r> so with my nvidia nforce4 chipset/geforce 8800gt oc bfg 512 mb x2 cards there is no support beyond the supplied non 3d accelerated driver
[06:45] <sunil> For name resolution, is there more to consider than just editing the host files?
[06:46] <rexwin> how do you check whether a particular user belongs to what group?
[06:46] <Guest_233> anybody know how to configure a arthos wireless card
[06:46] <sunil> Are there other requisite chickens that I have to sacrifice?
[06:46] <bingungajaa> havoc_ : i rather wait for nvidia official drivers, some say, 3rd party drivers can do harm with your vga card, a bit risk to take
[06:46] <f3tal3r0r> super cow powers seem to be limited here
[06:46] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, Hmm that a new nvidia card right?  I think that might be the one my brother got for his new computer
[06:46] <havoc_> bingungajaa, I've had this problem for almost 2 years now
[06:47] <f3tal3r0r> its newer but as new as the 9 series
[06:47] <f3tal3r0r> *not
[06:47] <bingungajaa> f3tal3r0r :  right !! shame on nvidia LOL
[06:47] <havoc_> bingungajaa, if I wait I'll prob fix this problem when I get a new computer
[06:47] <havoc_> bingungajaa, Nvidia is a bunch of lazy bums
[06:47] <ktemkin> ever since Intrepid, my keyboard's been a tad screwey
[06:47] <sunil> ktemkin: is the keymap incorrect ?
[06:47] <ktemkin> it's the same as it was in Hardy
[06:47] <bingungajaa> havo_ : hehehehe, too bad why ubuntu 8.10 not supported yet, but for hardy is ok :(
[06:48] <homerj> yeah, it was screwy for me too
[06:48] <sunil> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:48] <ktemkin> but I suspect something's different
[06:48] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, Hmm right, me borther got a 9 series one
[06:48] <homerj> I had to tell dosbox to not use scancodes
[06:48] <homerj> for the arrow keys to work in dos games
[06:48] <ktemkin> considering now it thinks the super key is the X86 menu key
[06:48] <sunil> that will give you the option to use a different keyboard mmap
[06:48] <f3tal3r0r> LOL i love how people always give the generic command lines trying to fix a problem that is obviously more complicated than that
[06:49] <ktemkin> I'm using the same keymap I did in Hardy
[06:49] <ktemkin> I suspect this has something to do with the changes regarding xorg.conf
[06:49] <bingungajaa> does anyone can confirm whether wine is available for YM 9 or not ? been googling, some says ok, some says no .. confused
[06:49] <havoc_> Looks like I'm stuck on no effects
[06:49] <mattgman> anybody mess with gdesklets?
[06:49] <sunil> f3tal3r0r: its a start. Feel free to have a stab at giving a hand yourself
[06:50] <f3tal3r0r> havoc: same here
[06:50] <ziroday> mattgman: you may want to use screenlets, there a newer version of gdesklets
[06:50] <mattgman> thx ziroday
[06:50] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, Did you check to see if the nvidia site provides linux drivers for that card? I have always had them work however you need to reinstall every kernel upgrade if you go that route
[06:51] <f3tal3r0r> yes i have tried to compile the kernel myself and followed all instructs to the tee however as stated earlier the people at nvidia could care less about linux
[06:51] <Sulle> i got nvidia drivers to work yesterday =) . I am all happy.
[06:51] <ktemkin> brb, going to try restarting my x-server
[06:51] <Welshman> thanks for intrepid
[06:52] <f3tal3r0r> I always get something to the effect of no displays found
[06:52] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, You mean the nvidia installer failed to compile its module right?  Or you tried to build your own custem kernel?
[06:52] <jarco> i have a weird problem. situation: New install with ibex. Only compiz running. The zero key at the numerical keyboard doesnt type a letter it just selects the next letter/number/space. Any solutions for it?
[06:52] <f3tal3r0r> i tried to build a custom kernel
[06:52] <ktemkin> did you check your keymap, jarco?
[06:53] <jarco> yes its correct
[06:53] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, Hmm why did you have to do all that?
[06:53] <f3tal3r0r> and all went well but upon reboot i get no displays found always, even when i type nano xorg.conf and manualy edit my conf file
[06:53] <mattgman> ziroday: how do i get it not to show a taskbar button?
[06:54] <ziroday> mattgman: you mean an icon in the notification area?
[06:54] <mattgman> like no icon anywhere
[06:54] <f3tal3r0r> and yes i stopped gdm and all things X
[06:54] <CaptainShanks> Okay, this question has been racking my brain for a good long time now... What is recommended more for installing packages with the command line, apt-get or aptitude?
[06:54] <f3tal3r0r> apt-get install
[06:54] <Gokee2> f3tal3r0r, You can at least start up with nv in that state right?
[06:54] <jarco> apt-get imho
[06:54] <ktemkin> one's a front-end for the other
[06:55] <f3tal3r0r> yes
[06:55] <ziroday> mattgman: I think there is an option if you right click it, but not sure sorry
[06:55] <chrinr> aptitude is like shell synaptic
[06:55] <f3tal3r0r> i can start X and have the gui work for some reason when i load the nvidia driver module in the kernel it breaks something
[06:55] <DigitalFiz> how do i keep sendmail from starting up at the beginning?
[06:55] <CaptainShanks> Oh... So synaptic and Aptitude essentially fulfill the same purpose.
[06:55] <DigitalFiz> sendmail and some ntp take forever to start
[06:56] <jarco> i have a weird problem. situation: New install with ibex. Only compiz running. The zero key at the numerical keyboard doesnt type a letter it just selects the next letter/number/space. Any solutions for it? i checked my keyboard settings and it is set to the one i have.
[06:56] <eitreach> aptitude is a command line tool to work with dpkg, Synaptic is a graphical one.
[06:56] <xbskid> Is there any formal training or practice testing for the UCP cert?
[06:56] <DigitalFiz> eitreach, hit the num lock key ;)
[06:56] <CaptainShanks> So would switching between the two screw with my dependencies at all?
[06:57] <DigitalFiz> err jarco hit the num lock key
[06:57] <f3tal3r0r> frsh install = bliss - 3d....load modules in kernel to enable 3d = hell
[06:57] <eitreach> DigitalFiz: eh?
[06:57] <eitreach> ah.
[06:57] <DigitalFiz> eitreach, sorry tab completed the wrong person
[06:57] <carloslicea> help I cannot install Kooka I cannot meet the requeriments (i know Kooka is KDE and hence should be treated un
[06:57] <jarco> DigitalFiz, of course i tried that first. All number works but not 0
[06:57] <eitreach> DigitalFiz: np.
[06:57] <carloslicea> #kubuntu but nobody seems to listen to me there)
[06:57] <eitreach> carloslicea: patience.
[06:58] <DigitalFiz> jarco, just replicated your problem when i hit num lock then it selects next space not zero but if i hit it again it works fine
[06:58] <billybigrigger> haha i love downloading packages at 22k/sec
[06:58] <billybigrigger> gotta love release day eh haha
[06:58] <jarco> very weird DigitalFiz  because i am very sure its on :D
[06:59] <_2> yiep! /etc/dhcpd.conf is either blank or doesn't exist.  where is the configuration file ?
[06:59] <esac> anybody have an intel 4965 and has been having long pauses on their network? im seeing 20 second lags just pinging the gateway. i rebooted into windows and tried it and dont see the issue. any ideas?
[06:59] <K-O-D> turn off ipv6
[06:59] <f3tal3r0r> i guess i should just be glad ubuntu 8.10 actually runs on my system, all former carnations of debian have had problems with my particular config
[07:00] <jim_p> esac: did you install the driver with ndiswrapper?
[07:00] <f3tal3r0r> no
[07:00] <jarco> lol i sloved the problem myself
[07:00] <K-O-D> esac, turn off ipv6 in ubuntu and see if that helps
[07:00] <esac> jim_p: no, just what came with the build. i also tried the backports module as suggested in the release notes
[07:00] <jarco> i just added the same keyboard again and it worked DigitalFiz
[07:00] <jarco> :D
[07:01] <esac> K-O-D, i turn off ipv6 as one of the first steps of a new install :)
[07:01] <kris_> kvm or xen -- that's the question.
[07:01] <esac> kris_, kvm
[07:01] <kris_> esac: reason?
[07:01] <K-O-D> esac, :(( sorry
[07:01] <suspect43> hi. i'm using hardy heron and was considering upgrading to 8.10. i'll be installing 8.10 on several other computers which have windows, so i'm downloading the desktop cd. can i upgrade using that cd too?
[07:01] <f3tal3r0r> could sli be causing me these problems?
[07:02] <suspect43> or will i need the alternate cd? i can't do a network upgrade because the electricity over here is frequently interrupted.
[07:02] <jarco> suspect43, when you put it in the drive it will give you the option to update :D
[07:02] <esac> kris_, i tried both. kvm was faster for me. from what i read, it looks like it is going to be supported by the ubuntu community better as well
[07:02] <kris_> esac: I've used Xen a lot, but am looking at kvm simply because it comes standard now
[07:02] <PatMcRotch> who is good with Samba?
[07:02] <woody86> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed, and want to install Kubuntu 8.10 as well. Do I just go to Syanptic manager and install kubuntu-desktop and all it's required packages, or is there more to it?
[07:02] <Sjaki`> Hi guys, I'm in an interesting situation: My Ubuntu Server has no monitor at all - instead I connect to it through TightVNC - however I want to increase my display resolution. How do I go about finding if this is possible?
[07:02] <kris_> esac: it uses disk images, correct? what about lvm?
[07:02] <suspect43> jarco: the ordinary cd, right? the live cd, i mean.
[07:02] <esac> kris_, havent tried lvm, sorry
[07:03] <esac> kris_, but why not virtualbox? i really like it if it werent for using it on a laptop i take between work and home daily
[07:03] <jarco> suspect43, i did it with the alternate install cd ...
[07:03] <a|ien> Ubuntu has now failed to install on 2 seperate machines, and the main Ubuntu page has outdated documentation. Is there anyone that could chat me one on one and help me figure out what I am doing wrong?
[07:03] <PatMcRotch> @woody86 you might just have to hook it to a screen
[07:03] <kris_> esac: I don't know much about virtualbox, but I need separate servers within my server for dev/testing environments
[07:03] <kris_> esac: which is why I liked Xen
[07:04] <jarco> a|ien, could you give a more exact description of your porblem to us? Like the rrors it is returning or why it fails?
[07:04] <PatMcRotch> Anyone wanna help me with SAMBA? Please.
[07:04] <f3tal3r0r> i guess if i plan on running linux i should stick to what it knows best...the 386 DX
[07:04] <a|ien> jarco: I run through the liveCd installer, reboot, and it failes to come up. One machine gives me various grub errors
[07:04] <a|ien> the second machine, the one I am in front of now
[07:04] <esac> kris_, yeah, virtualbox is more for desktops, but its something you might want to give a try in your spare time. it seemed faster for desktops
[07:04] <a|ien> it just resized a partition and rebooted back into windows after saying "install complete"
[07:05] <jarco> did u let it write the grub data to the nbr?
[07:05] <a|ien> I never told it not to
[07:05] <a|ien> i would assume that happened as part of the installer
[07:05] <jarco> lol
[07:05] <woody86> PatMcRotch- what do you mean hook it to a screen?
[07:05] <shad0w0fsin> can anyone help me? when I first start intrepid the network works but internet doesn't, then after a while it randomly starts working, then it stops working, and its not an issue with my router as my other computers can access the internet fine
[07:05] <a|ien> do you have to manually set grub up? even with a GUI installer?
[07:05] <jarco> its an option a|ien u had to at one point choose yes or no for it
[07:06] <chronosx> how to make crontab work?
[07:06] <Ax4> help! 8.10 BROKE my sound :( :( :(
[07:06] <a|ien> there was never an option that I saw
[07:06] <chronosx> it doesn't seem to run it
[07:06] <a|ien> I can run thru it again
[07:06] <esac> Ax4, what does Ax4 mean ?
[07:06] <a|ien> but I told it to automatically partition and setup the disk
[07:06] <PatMcRotch> When I try to get a share list using "smbclient -L 10.0.0.4 -U%" I do not get a list, I get access denied.
[07:06] <Ax4> esac, my sound was working under 8.04, under the new 8.10 I have no sound when I play videos on youtube (for example)
[07:07] <jarco> u could a|ien  but ask ur question to the other people here first. They are way more advanced in linux then me and probably can help you where i cannot :D
[07:07] <abe3k> hi guys :), is there a file that my ubuntu sound preferences settings are stored in that I can modify with a text editor ?
[07:07] <esac> Ax4, is your soundcard detected ? from terminal type: lsmod | grep '^snd'
[07:07] <alap> hi guys i am new to device drivers and facing problems with my first module it self its related to module.h. I did a lot of search related with this but unable to solve it can any one help me to get out of this problem
[07:07] <a|ien> can anyone experienced in the Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCD installer help me out? I am at a complete loss on this one
[07:07] <Ax4> esac, yea lots of output
[07:07] <esac> Ax4, you should see something like snd_hda_intel near the top
[07:08] <Ax4> snd_hda_intel         489264  3
[07:08] <suspect43> hmm, i found something called jigdo. will this be able to download the alternate cd using the live cd iso? as in just download the parts that are different?
[07:08] <f3tal3r0r> is there anyway to have ubuntu 8.10 use the 177.80 nvidia driver during the install?
[07:08] <jarco> a|ien, my point was to discribe ur problem. somone who thinks to know the solution will jump on it then :D. Thats the way this channel works
[07:08] <alap> I am trying basic module of hello.c
[07:08] <esac> Ax4, assuming that you have double clicked on the volume icon in your notification area and raised master volume and PCM ,have you tried running 'alsamixer' from terminal and making sure your channels are unmuted ?
[07:08] <a|ien> I dont know how to describe it
[07:08] <a|ien> the installer did not set grub up somehow
[07:09] <jarco> well tell them grub aint working :D
[07:09] <abe3k> is there a file that my ubuntu sound preferences settings are stored in that I can modify with a text editor ?
[07:09] <Acknix> Hi guys, i'm having problems connecting to my wireless, it keeps asking for the wireless (which is WEP unfortunatly) key and i enter it and it doesn't connect, I know the key is right and it just sits there and spins
[07:09] <alap> hi guys i am new to device drivers and facing problems with my first module it self its related to module.h. I did a lot of search related with this but unable to solve it can any one help me to get out of this problem
[07:09] <PatMcRotch> PROBLEM: cannot get SMB share list using "smbclient -L 10.0.0.4 -U%"
[07:09] <LoRe> i have "NVIDIA GPU GeForce Go 7300 (G72) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)" inside, will glx work with 8.10?
[07:09] <Ax4> esac, yup, it's at 100%
[07:09] <f3tal3r0r> @lore good luck i have been frustrated all day
[07:10] <esac> Ax4, alsamixer is ?
[07:10] <DigitalFiz> ntpd takes forever to load on my machine is it a service that is needed?
[07:10] <a|ien> Problem: Ubuntu 8.10 Live CD Installer never installs Grub, never asks to, never errors in any way....how do I fix it?
[07:10] <Ax4> esac, yup
[07:10] <LoRe> hmm... maybe i download the live cd and test it there, before upgrading
[07:10] <a|ien> anyone?
[07:10] <f3tal3r0r> thats probably the smart thing to do
[07:11] <PatMcRotch> A|ien: try the super grub disk
[07:11] <esac> Ax4, was sound working at all?
[07:11] <Ax4> esac, dunno if this helps, but when ubuntu starts up, I don't get the music, but I do get the small *drumroll*, also my onboard audio is Realtek ALC888
[07:11] <f3tal3r0r> im downloading fedora dv install right now to see if theres any difference, maybe i am just a complete retard and missed something
[07:11] <alap> even i tried to compile my module with -v option even though  unable to solve my problem
[07:11] <a|ien> hmm I think if I have to go that far I may as well install a better boot loader
[07:12] <bingungajaa> Before you begin the installation, exit the X server and terminate all OpenGL applications --- what does it mean ? and how can i do it ?
[07:12] <esac> Ax4, if you do 'killall -9 pulseaudio' and then try to play sound, does it work ?
[07:12] <f3tal3r0r> try compiling the modules and compiling your own kernel its such fun, especially after all you do it still doesnt work
[07:12] <PatMcRotch> PROBLEM: browsing SMB shares without using a user name
[07:13] <a|ien> PatMcRotch: on my work machine, I managed to get grub installed doing the exact same steps i am now,and the Ubuntu install was borked
[07:13] <abe3k> is there a file that my ubuntu sound preferences settings are stored in that I can modify with a text editor ?
[07:13] <a|ien> so how can i do 2 identical installs with 2 different failures?
[07:14] <PatMcRotch> a|ien: sorry you got me there
[07:14] <Ax4> esac, VLC is playing an mp3 now
[07:14] <alap> can anyone solve problem its basic as i am new to device drivers
[07:14] <Ax4> esac, lemme test ubuntu
[07:14] <f3tal3r0r> i think abe3k's question is so simple it would provoke an instant response, if i had more expierince with ubuntu i would know the answer to that question, but seeings how i cant get 3d working i guess i am at his level
[07:14] <Ax4> esac, errr youtube*
[07:14] <jim_p> !opera
[07:15] <f3tal3r0r> opera..thast the same browser the WII uses
[07:15] <Ax4> esac, success, a restart of firefox, then navigating to youtube, it works
[07:15] <PatMcRotch> So I guess no one is good with SAMBA in here? :(
[07:15] <Ax4> esac, am I going to have to kill pulseaudio every time i start up?
[07:15] <ziroday> f3tal3r0r: offtopic discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic plese
[07:15] <strAlan> is there a way to view hockey scores in linux
[07:15] <ziroday> strAlan: what do you mean?
[07:15] <a|ien> ubuntu fails, time to back to Gentoo
[07:15] <abe3k> f3taler0r : simplest thing to turn on 3d is to enable the driver for your video card from the administration>hardware drivers :)
[07:16] <f3tal3r0r> im passing time until someone can answer my question
[07:16] <strAlan> to check the scores
[07:16] <strAlan> to see who won and who lost
[07:16] <ziroday> strAlan: can you not check them on a website?
[07:16] <strAlan> and a breakdown of the scoring if thats possible
[07:16] <f3tal3r0r> i have tried to enable the driver using that method
[07:16] <onats> pretty weird question
[07:16] <f3tal3r0r> i have followed nvidias instructions
[07:16] <jarco> when i download themes from http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=102 it mostly sais that the files i downloaded are no packages. Am i missing something here?
[07:16] <strAlan> what is this "website" you speak of
[07:16] <ziroday> strAlan: what team and country are you looking at?
[07:16] <f3tal3r0r> i have compiled my own kernel with the drivers and still no dice
[07:16] <ziroday> f3tal3r0r: what card?
[07:17] <esac> Ax4, sounds like pulseaudio is hanging on you :( are you running x86_64 by chance ?
[07:17] <ziroday> jarco: that is due to the theme not being packaged correctly
[07:17] <f3tal3r0r> 8800 gt oc bfg nvidia 512 in sli
[07:17] <Ax4> esac, yes I am, intel quad core 6600
[07:17] <strAlan> is there any chance I can talk to a manager I rlly need an answer on this
[07:17] <esac> Ax4, its a known issue with x86_64 and especially flash
[07:17] <ziroday> strAlan: we are helping you, what team and country are you looking for?
[07:17] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : this is what I did before compiling the nvidia driver,    sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[07:18] <jarco> ziroday, is it normal that over 50 % has that? Cn i still use them somehow?
[07:18] <Ax4> esac, hmmm
[07:18] <f3tal3r0r> lol that is part of the driver install instructions
[07:18] <strAlan> well i'm a big hockeyu fan so id like to check all the scores for all the games
[07:18] <strAlan> so i guess all tealms
[07:18] <ziroday> jarco: yes you can, you need to repackage them. If you have a theme that you really really want you can give me the link and I will try to get it working for you
[07:18] <ziroday> strAlan: what country?
[07:19] <strAlan> afghan
[07:19] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : what do you see when running the nVIDIA xserver settings ?
[07:19] <f3tal3r0r> okay is there a differnce between doing sudo su PW and be in root and just doing sudo
[07:19] <ziroday> f3tal3r0r: I have a similar card and it works fine. Are you using hardy or intrepid
[07:19] <strAlan> im not allowed to give my exact location but i'm in afghna
[07:19] <f3tal3r0r> i am using intrepid i d/l it today
[07:19] <ziroday> !ops | strAlan is a troll
[07:19] <_2> f3tal3r0r sudo -i
[07:19] <jarco> cool ziroday but if its not to hard u perhaps can also provide me the way u have done it? :p . I like to shwitch my themes often :p
[07:20] <esac> f3tal3r0r, just doing sudo is safer as you are only allowing one process root permission. running as root even for a short period of time is never a good idea
[07:20] <shad0w0fsin> can anyone help me? when I first start intrepid the network works but internet doesn't, then after a while it randomly starts working, then it stops working, and its not an issue with my router as my other computers can access the internet fine
[07:20] <mrono> hey brandon
[07:20] <ziroday> f3tal3r0r: and you tried to enable it through the restricted drivers manager?
[07:20] <f3tal3r0r> yes
[07:20] <shad0w0fsin> anyone have any ideas?
[07:20] <ktemkin> hmmm
[07:20] <mrono> just tried the gparted live cd, no luck
[07:20] <alap> hi guys i am new to device drivers and facing problems with my first module it self its related to module.h. I did a lot of search related with this but unable to solve it can any one help me to get out of this problem
[07:20] <Rolaulten> Hello...got one of those many updating ubuntu questions... did the live update...I assume everything works...went to reboot and now none of my linux kernels (they are just kernels from different ubuntu updates) will not load... SO any ideas on how to get ubuntu to boot once more or should I glean files off my ubuntu partition and do a fresh install?
[07:20] <mrono> still can't resize my ntfs partition
[07:20] <jarco> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/CleanGreen+Theme?content=44063 this is the theme i like btw ziroday
[07:20] <ziroday> jarco: can you give me an example of a theme thats not working?
[07:20] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : in interpid you don't have to compile the nvidia driver :), just enable it as ziroday has mentioned
[07:20] <ziroday> jarco: looking at it now
[07:20] <f3tal3r0r> the first thing i did was try to enable it using the built in hardware manager
[07:21] <jarco> :)
[07:21] <f3tal3r0r> then i d/l nvidia driver and followed there instructs
[07:21] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : driver version 177 ?
[07:21] <f3tal3r0r> then I built a custom kernel and still no dice
[07:21] <f3tal3r0r> 177 yes
[07:21] <f3tal3r0r> reccomended
[07:22] <Flannel> strAlan: please keep conversation on topic (which is Ubuntu support)
[07:22] <f3tal3r0r> upon reboot usin the ubuntu built it enable option i get no monitors found
[07:22] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : do you have the nvidia x server settings in the system>administration> ?
[07:22] <reqqit> !isitout
[07:22] <reqqit> ;-)
[07:22] <f3tal3r0r> hmm im not sure i would have to check
[07:22] <strAlan> i'm using ubuntu!
[07:22] <Gokee2> shad0w0fsin, Whats ifconfig say?
[07:22] <f3tal3r0r> wait
[07:22] <reqqit> so, I am still looking for how to decrease TTL and increase max connections for ssh
[07:22] <f3tal3r0r> i do under the livecd but not after i actually install
[07:23] <brandon_m_pace> strAlan: please keep non support requests in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:23] <reqqit> that is, the sshd needs to accept more connections, and have a shorter TTL, I've googled the hell out of this, to no avail... :/
[07:23] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : maybe in applications > systems then ?
[07:23] <f3tal3r0r> when i run livecd and install the driver i get the option in the mamager but after i reboot seeings its live cd no dice, when i install to HD i get no screens found error when i install
[07:23] <ziroday> jarco: thats not a theme, thats an old emerald window decorator. It all manages the green border around the window
[07:23] <f3tal3r0r> forgot to mention that
[07:23] <jarco> ohw
[07:24] <jarco> it doesnt work on compiz then?
[07:24] <ziroday> jarco: no you need to have the emerald theme manager installed, and then I am not sure if its even supported in emerald. Sorry
[07:24] <Gokee2> Anyone know what the dkms build system is?
[07:25] <jarco> np ziroday i ll just keep looking :d huge thx for the xplanation
[07:25] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r : try   , sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[07:25] <f3tal3r0r> clarifaction: frsh install update using the ubuntu update then i reboot, then i enable the restricted driver in the hardware manager i reboot i get no screens found
[07:25] <ziroday> jarco: no problem, gtk themes usually end in .tar.gz
[07:25] <reqqit> Anyone know about setting TTL on ssh connections?
[07:25] <Husio> hello, I'm trying to set up the netboot installation for 8.10, following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot howto. But I can't find  netboot directory on install cd. Why? It's no longer on cd?
[07:26] <ziroday> f3tal3r0r: can you tell us what lspci | grep VGA gives you please
[07:26] <reqqit> Googling gives me weird xml configs that don't fit what I am seeing
[07:26] <loxley_> Gokee2: google dkms, pretty clear what it does on the first hit
[07:26] <f3tal3r0r> when i run the livecd and select enable the driver i get the nvidia option but since its a live cd i have to reboot and it goes away
[07:26] <f3tal3r0r> brb
[07:26] <jarco> k thx btw can i select from the gtk 1 or 2 themes? ziroday
[07:26] <loxley_> Gokee2: for example virtualbox kernel module gets rebuilt when upgrading kernel
[07:26] <ziroday> jarco: gtk 2 themes
[07:26] <abe3k> f3tal3r0r :also do  , sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[07:27] <jarco> ok i ll try them huge thx
[07:28] <aslan> hey guys... I have a MX Revolution mouse, which has 12 buttons available.  I have figured out how to map all of them except for the "search" button.. this button shows up in xev as a keyboard mapping and not a mouse button. Does anyone know how btnx used to make it work for middle click?
[07:29] <jarco> works like a charm now
[07:29] <PeterBye> anyone here on a mac
[07:29] <alap> hello i am new to device drivers and facing problem with module.h in my first module itself can any one solve my problem?
[07:30] <ziroday> alap: what are you trying to do, install a driver or create a driver?
[07:30] <alap> just creating basic module like hello.c
[07:31] <ziroday> alap: you might find it better to ask in err possibly ##linux and ##kernelnewbies
[07:31] <paul___> Does anyone know how do i watch videos on youtube
[07:31] <f3tal3rr0r> okay guys
[07:32] <rww> !flash | paul___
[07:32] <f3tal3rr0r> I am reinstalling ubuntu
[07:32] <abe3k> f3tal3rr0r: good luck :)
[07:32] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: did you get that output I asked for?
[07:32] <f3tal3rr0r> lol
[07:32] <f3tal3rr0r> not yet
[07:32] <f3tal3rr0r> I am doing a fresh install
[07:32] <neoice> if I want to upgrade hardy to ibex, just change my sources.list?
[07:32] <ziroday> !upgrade | neoice
[07:32] <neoice> thank you :D
[07:32] <PeterBye> I think what you need is a nice, fresh, clean install
[07:32] <alap> ya u may b right but for last 3-4 days i am trying to get it worked at my level it self and i solved some errors like module.h not found but now am facing some other errors like
[07:32] <neoice> that was exactly the link I needed
[07:32] <abe3k> any 1 having this strange bug, clicking on the home folder from the places menu launches totem player O.o
[07:33] <jascott> i cant get my python script to launch via rc.local
[07:33] <reqqit> abe3k - that is nautilus right?
[07:33] <jascott> any help?
[07:33] <f3tal3rr0r> so i followed the graphic installer
[07:33] <f3tal3rr0r> its currently installing
[07:33] <abe3k> reqqit : I'm using ubuntu 8.10 , just upgraded from 8.04 , and I guess it has something to do with nautilus
[07:34] <_2> jascott is it executable ?   and are you calling the full path ?
[07:34] <abe3k> reqqit : did you find any solution for that ?
[07:34] <reqqit> abe3k - nautilus is as useful as a dead dog at a barbecue
[07:34] <f3tal3rr0r> i love the ubuntu install btw quick and clean i just wish nvidia wasnt so lame
[07:34] <reqqit> abe3k, nautilus has bugs copying and pasting... after I realised that I decided to give up.
[07:34] <abe3k> reqqit : what do you recommend ? :)
[07:34] <reqqit> abe3k, gnomecommander!!!!!!
[07:35] <ziroday> abe3k: what is your issue again?
[07:35] <Gokee2> What is the name of the kernel package?  I thought it was linux-image but ubuntu says that is not installed
[07:35] <reqqit> abe3k, it can copy and paste files, in 2008, that is pretty much what you can hope for in an OS
[07:35] <tarelerulz> I am trying to movie my home to a different partition . So I end up moveing the swap I think and my system is running slower.  How to I tell Ubuntu where the swap is ?
[07:35] <abe3k> ziroday : from the places menu , clicking anything that has direct connections to folders opens up totem player
[07:35] <Flannel> !separatehome | tarelerulz
[07:35] <_2> Gokee2 dpkg -l | grep linux
[07:35] <Flannel> !swap | tarelerulz
[07:36] <abe3k> ziroday : home folder : documents , music , etc
[07:36] <f3tal3rr0r> I am sorry if i seem annoying ive been trying to get this to work by myself for 4 hours now
[07:36] <reqqit> Oh, but I found another bug in photoshop, I found 2/3 bugs yesterday alone
[07:36] <Flannel> tarelerulz: Second one is obviously more relevant to your actual question, but first is step by step for making a separate home
[07:36] <ziroday> abe3k: thats a known problem with a fix, lemme see if I can find it for you
[07:36] <Madkiss> hi
[07:36] <ktemkin> okay, upon closer inspection, something's very, very wrong with the keyboard since I upgraded to intrepid
[07:36] <rww> Hi Madkiss!
[07:36] <abe3k> ziroday , thanks alot I appreciate it :)
[07:36] <Madkiss> I installed Intrepid via debootstrap and now when booting (via nfsroot), no gettys are started
[07:36] <Gokee2> _2, That flows way out of my screen (no x seeing nvidia doe not work)
[07:36] <ktemkin> I have the correct keyboard layout configured, I believ
[07:36] <ktemkin> *believe
[07:36] <Madkiss> is that a known problem? or did I misconfigure something?
[07:36] <reqqit> ktemkin, what is wrong? maybe you need to run 'test keyboard layout'
[07:37] <eagle_> can i upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 in several time over internet?
[07:37] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Hey everyone.. I'm wondering what the new features are for the server edition and whether it's worth upgrading? I'm currently running 8.04 for a web/file server
[07:37] <Flannel> !upgrade | eagle_
[07:37] <_2> Gokee2 you can still scroll up
[07:37] <Gokee2> _2, Should I have linux-image installed?
[07:37] <Gokee2> _2, How?
[07:37] <_2> Gokee2 shift page up
[07:37] <Mrono> how do I resize a NTFS partition when it has bad sectors
[07:37] <abe3k> f3tal3rr0r : are you on the machine with the problem or is it another computer ?
[07:37] <foorilious> anyone have an alps trackpad (e.g. on a new latitude) and have the trackpad setting be pretty unusable?
[07:37] <ziroday> abe3k: Why is my Places menu launching applications instead of opening Nautilus?
[07:37] <ziroday>     * Right click a folder, go to Properties -> Open With, and change it back to Nautilus.  There's a bug where if a folder is opened in an application, it automatically associates folders with that application on your system.
[07:38] <ziroday> woops sorry
[07:38] <xaka> i'm try to configure and use ntpd. When it sync with servers all jitter values too high: >5000. Why?
[07:38] <Flannel> DrUnKnMuNkY: The fact that Hardy is LTS likely trumps the other benefits unless you use them.  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs/whatsnew
[07:38] <_2> Gokee2 but pipe it through less.   dpke -l | grep 'linux-image' | less
[07:38] <Gokee2> _2, Nice :)  I have worked for years not knowing how to scroll!
[07:38] <abe3k> ziroday : ok I'll try that
[07:38] <_2> ooops dpkg
[07:38] <bingungajaa> why can't if fast forward my dvd in totem ?
[07:38] <rww> _2, Gokee2: I didn't know that either. Huzzah for learning :D
[07:38] <Gokee2> Hmm I guess I could hav done that
[07:38] <Gokee2> have*
[07:39] <Gokee2> Its been awhile since I used less
[07:39] <abe3k> ziroday : lol ! , solved
[07:39] <abe3k> ziroday : thanks again :)
[07:39] <Gokee2> I guess ubuntu has been working well for the past while... :/
[07:39] <ktemkin> foorilious: you can configure the ALPS trackpad with the synaptic drivers
[07:39] <_2> Gokee2 i live in the console, hardly start x at all.   so less is a must.
[07:39] <ktemkin> so
[07:39] <foorilious> ktemkin: what's the preferred way to do that now that xorg.conf is deprecated for things like shmconfig?
[07:39] <xaka> Why JITTER values in ntpd >5000?!
[07:40] <abe3k> one word..
[07:40] <Gokee2> _2, Hmm what do you do for web browsing?
[07:40] <abe3k> or three words
[07:40] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Flannel: that's the page i was looking for. thanks.
[07:40] <abe3k> UBUNTU KICKS ASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:40] <_2> Gokee2 elinks
[07:40] <ktemkin> I believe you can create a fpi file for HAL
[07:40] <Sjaki> when i run ps ax | grep bnetd - and I get 6558 pts/0    S      0:00 /home/sam/pvpgn/sbin/bnetd - what does the 0:00 mean?
[07:41] <Sjaki> anyone?
[07:41] <Gokee2> _2, I see, I have used elinks from time to time but always find it lacking (probibly because I have never learned all the keyboard commands) :)
[07:41] <_2> Sjaki time
[07:41] <ktemkin> the correct layout for my keyboard should be 'pc104'
[07:41] <ktemkin> it was configured that way in xorg.conf at the time of my upgrade to intrepid
[07:42] <Mrono> damn bad sectors
[07:42] <ktemkin> now that I've upgraded, the x-server still thinks my keyboard's layout is pc104
[07:42] <shirish> hi all, I'm not able to download updates of Intrepid, kernel updates, although I'm able to ping to the archive.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <ktemkin> but it's obviously not
[07:42] <rww> Sjaki: the amount of CPU time used by the process since it was started
[07:42] <ktemkin> as several of the keys are mapped wrong
[07:42] <Sjaki> rww So while it says 0:00 does that mean it's paused? Or it just hasn't been called to process any info yet?
[07:43] <ktemkin> e.g. pressing the Super key returns X86 Menu, and pressing the menu key returns X86ScreenSaver
[07:43] <f3tal3rr0r> @ziroday how do you want me to boot? the regular kernel or recovery? i just fresh installed and am at the grub loader screen
[07:43] <ktemkin> and the volume control keys seem to think they're being pressed constantly after they're used the first time
[07:43] <rww> shirish: try using an apt mirror. System > Administration > Software Sources > Download from: [Other], then pick a non-ubuntu.com server or press [Select Best Server]
[07:43] <_2> Gokee2 there is also links2 which supports graphics, lynx w3m, or one can wget <url.here> | html2text | fold -s | less      # hehhe why use a web browser at all....  :)
[07:43] <ktemkin> i.e. they go down, but never up
[07:43] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: err, regular kernel should be fine
[07:43] <Adam_> uhg, i think i need cat5e or cat6 to take advantage of my gigabit ethernet :/
[07:43] <ktemkin> I know intrepid changed the method of configuration from xorg.conf
[07:43] <f3tal3rr0r> 2.6.27-7-generic booting
[07:43] <ktemkin> and I tried using XML to configure hAL
[07:43] <ActionBoy> I just installed hardy on my laptop (ThinkPad X30 with Intel 830MG graphics) and I have pretty bad color banding on the default desktop (either with the default wallpaper, or some arbitrary gradient). Best I can tell the resolution/colordepth are where they should be, not sure what else to look for/try...
[07:43] <ktemkin> *HAL
[07:44] <rww> shirish: also, make sure you do apt-get update after changing mirrors
[07:44] <ktemkin> but so far, no luck
[07:44] <shirish> rww: right, you think the servers are swamped with requests?
[07:44] <rww> shirish: yeah, they are
[07:44] <shirish> rww: ok cool.
[07:44] <bingungajaa> can i add widgets in ubuntu like windows ? how ?
[07:44] <Adam_> How do I setup an encrypted Private directory for new users?
[07:44] <shirish> rww: is there a command-line version of find best server option in synaptic?
[07:44] <f3tal3rr0r> @ziroday I am at the ubuntu desktop
[07:45] <ziroday> bingungajaa: yes through screenlets
[07:45] <Gokee2> _2, Mostly I use it to work with my gateway away from home hence the need for a browser so I can log in.  Do you happen to know where grubs menu is stored nowdays?  I looked in /boot but there is no grub?
[07:45] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, this is livecd or installed ubuntu?
[07:45] <rww> shirish: yeah, give me a sec to remember the name of it
[07:45] <Sjaki> rww So while it says 0:00 does that mean it's paused? Or it just hasn't been called to process any info yet?
[07:45] <f3tal3rr0r> installed
[07:45] <f3tal3rr0r> on the HD
[07:45] <f3tal3rr0r> fresh install
[07:45] <shirish> rww: sure
[07:45] <rww> Sjaki: the second
[07:45] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:45] <Sjaki> rww: Ta, thanks
[07:45] <bingungajaa> ziroday : like this in the picture ?  http://bp1.blogger.com/_dpFEn-yp6Rs/SHLyZidn8_I/AAAAAAAAB3M/EROP70k_b0M/s1600-h/ubuntu-windows-themes.png
[07:45] <rww> Sjaki: or it processed data relatively quickly
[07:45] <ktemkin> Is there some kind of tool to configure the keyboard layout now that it uses HAL, or is it XML-only?
[07:45] <f3tal3rr0r> okay
[07:45] <Sjaki> rww: thanks, yeah I just wanted to make sure it's actually good to go
[07:46] <ziroday> bingungajaa: those are either screenlets or google desktop widgets
[07:46] <f3tal3rr0r> ubuntu is saying theres updates
[07:46] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: install the graphics driver first
[07:46] <rww> shirish: I can't remember it, but suspect it might have been in Debian instead of Ubuntu anyway. Do you want me to give you the address of a server that isn't swamped?
[07:46] <f3tal3rr0r> 177 recommended?
[07:47] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: yep
[07:47] <f3tal3rr0r> select it nd click activate correct?
[07:47] <shirish> rww: I would like the command, so I also know, also can use it again whenever I get into jams like this
[07:47] <f3tal3rr0r> k typed in password
[07:47] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, it should install the drivers
[07:47] <bingungajaa> ziroday : sorry to ask again, how can i make my ubuntu got icons (at the bottom of the screen)
[07:47] <f3tal3rr0r> downloading and installing driver
[07:48] <ziroday> bingungajaa: I believe thats a google desktop widget _but_ that could also be virtualbox seamless desktop and those widgets are from windows
[07:48] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: great :)
[07:48] <ulysess> hi
[07:49] <bingungajaa> thx
[07:49] <squid0> hi. I have a package for an X driver that's giving me hassles. I'd like to use the same package from the previous release (Hardy). I thought I'd download the .deb, and then install it via dpkg. How do I force apt to use the old package, even when I upgrade?
[07:49] <_2> howto put togather two lines like "1 2 3" and "a b c"  so the output is "1a 2b 3c"  ?
[07:49] <shirish> rww: I'm sure a command is there, most probably one of the apt commands
[07:49] <rww> shirish: the program's called netselect. We had it in the Ubuntu repos through hardy, but it looks like it got dropped for some reason.
[07:49] <ulysess> networkmanager don't save the changes on 8.10, any idea? thks
[07:49] <f3tal3rr0r> its complete and wants me to reboot
[07:50] <shirish> rww: right, its no longer there
[07:50] <Adam_> if I create a directory under my user's home folder called "Private" will it automatically be encrypted?
[07:50] <lvlefisto> after I use xmms2 I can't make work some programs that use audio
[07:50] <lvlefisto> does anybody know why is that?
[07:50] <shirish> rww: I'm getting wmnetselect which obviously is not what we are looking for.
[07:50] <ziroday> Adam_: no, one sec lemme get instructions for you
[07:50] <rww> shirish: looks like it was broken and selected debian repos instead of ubuntu ones
[07:50] <rww> shirish:
[07:50] <rww> shirish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netselect/+bug/55671
[07:50] <Adam_> thanks ziroday
[07:50] <ulysess> lvlefisto: maybe if you change the audio server...
[07:50] <ziroday> Adam_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:51] <loxley_> lvlefisto: probably pulseaudio - alsa fuckup.
[07:51] <rww> shirish: so yeah, apart from the GUI, I don't see a "Search for fastest server" feature (bug report didn't list any alternatives
[07:51] <rww> !language | loxley_
[07:51] <shirish> rww: thanx, looking at it as we speak
[07:51] <paul___> Could somebody help me install Adobe Flash player version 10 please? I have already tried installing from the .deb package downloaded from adobe's site but it didnt work
[07:51] <lvlefisto> should I shutdown pulseaudio and restart it again??
[07:51] <f3tal3rr0r> @ziroday its complete wants me to reboot
[07:51] <rww> !flash | paul___, again, please read
[07:52] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, you can reboot or restart xserver. Your choice
[07:52] <loxley_> lvlefisto: set to same in audio config
[07:52] <Adam_> ggrr... I'm SSHing in now instead of being at the terminal, using the same user as i did at the term, but now I am getting an error saying the user is not in the sudoers file, any ideas?
[07:53] <loxley_> lvlefisto: me thinks xmms2 uses alsa
[07:53] <ziroday> Adam_: what command are you running?
[07:53] <ActionBoy> I just installed hardy on my laptop (ThinkPad X30 with Intel 830MG graphics) and I have pretty bad color banding on the default desktop (either with the default wallpaper, or some arbitrary gradient). Best I can tell the resolution/colordepth are where they should be, not sure what else to look for/try...
[07:53] <Adam_> sudo apt-get
[07:53] <_2> anybody know how to put togather two lines like "1 2 3" and "a b c"  so the output is "1a 2b 3c"  ?
[07:54] <ulysess> why networkmanager don't save the changes on 8.10? thks
[07:54] <Gokee2> _2, After spending all that time on the command line you don`t know a magic little command to do that?
[07:54] <Adam_> yep, definately works at the physical term, but not via SSH
[07:54] <loxley_> lvlefisto: problem is that , i think its pulseaudio that locks the audio so alsa can't use it
[07:54] <shashi__> I have just installed 8.10 AMD 64. It is having still openoffice 2.4.1, it doesn't have 3.0 .
[07:54] <f3tal3rr0r> @ziroday says kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[07:54] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: thats fine
[07:54] <_2> Gokee2 never plaied there before
[07:54] <ziroday> shashi_: that is correct
[07:54] <lvlefisto> ok, and the solution is to change xmms2 conf to not use pulseaudio?
[07:55] <f3tal3rr0r> wants me to login im at a command line
[07:55] <Gokee2> _2, You could always write a simple script to do it
[07:55] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: you are using ubuntu desktop?
[07:55] <loxley_> lvlefisto: just kill pulseaudio
[07:55] <lvlefisto> ok
[07:55] <_2> Gokee2 i can probably cludge togather something with  while read ;do
[07:55] <f3tal3rr0r> yes
[07:55] <lvlefisto> I'll try that
[07:55] <rww> shashi__: Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't have OpenOffice.org 3. It might make it to intrepid-backports at some point, and will likely be in the next version of Ubuntu.
[07:55] <f3tal3rr0r> x86_64 desktop iso
[07:55] <loxley_> lvlefisto: or set all your audio drivers to alsa
[07:55] <f3tal3rr0r> cd
[07:56] <Gokee2> _2, They always have a space?  I could write one in perl pretty quick if I had my xserver back...  I like my mouse!
[07:56] <_2> Gokee2 i was hoping some knew a secret tho
[07:56] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, can you login and type "startx"
[07:56] <paul___> I checked the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[07:56] <shirish> rww: another thing, do you have an /etc/apt/apt.conf file ?
[07:56] <f3tal3rr0r> fatal server error no screens found
[07:56] <paul___> i dont know how to enable the multiverse repository
[07:56] <_2> Gokee2 yes always a space for "IFS"
[07:56] <Madkiss> any ideas on my getty problem?
[07:56] <f3tal3rr0r> giving up
[07:56] <shashi__> OK , I was expecting office 3.0, somewhere i read in the internet that 8.10 contains office 3.
[07:57] <rww> !multiverse | paul___
[07:57] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay, you have a screen connected to this computer right?
[07:57] <lvlefisto> loxley_: thanks! it worked!
[07:57] <Gokee2> _2, Hmm, that would be pretty easy to do then
[07:57] <f3tal3rr0r> xinit connection refused errno 111
[07:57] <PeterBye> does anyone have the customer service number for ubuntu
[07:57] <rww> paul___: though it may already be enabled (think it is by default); try just skipping that step ;-)
[07:57] <shirish> does anybody know if an /etc/apt/apt.conf file exist?
[07:57] <f3tal3rr0r> unable to connect to x server
[07:57] <ulysess> anybody read me or I need any priviledges?
[07:57] <loxley_> lvlefisto: yep ;)
[07:57] <_2> Gokee2 i think i have it with awk.  thanks tho
[07:57] <rww> shirish: nope, I don't. There's an apt.conf.d folder
[07:57] <f3tal3rr0r> xinit: No such process errno 3 server error
[07:58] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[07:58] <shirish> rww: same here, the release notes say there is a file, and there isn't.
[07:58] <Gokee2> _2, See I knew you had the magic in you with al the command line time :)
[07:58] <Gokee2> all*
[07:58] <b33r> can someone point me to a good guide to install the ubuntu .iso on a usb stick?
[07:59] <PeterBye> does anyone have the customer service number for ubuntu
[07:59] <rww> shirish: ah. You could either create one and make the modifications you need there, or edit one of the files in apt.conf.d and put the modification there.
[07:59] <ziroday> b33r: with the latest version there is tool in System > Administration > Create a USB startup disk that does it for you
[07:59] <rww> shirish: either way should work, I think, though the second definitely does because I did it recently :)
[07:59] <paul___> Apparently i have flash already installed , though when i try to watch some video on youtube it says i probably have an old version
[07:59] <shirish> rww: ok cool.
[08:00] <rww> !usb | b33r
[08:00] <PeterBye> does anyone have the customer service number for ubuntu
[08:00] <f3tal3rr0r> looks like nothing
[08:00] <b33r> ty
[08:00] <f3tal3rr0r> section monitor '
[08:00] <f3tal3rr0r> identifier  "configured monitor"
[08:00] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: as long as you have a section monitor thats fine
[08:00] <rww> PeterBye: do you have a Canonical support contract?
[08:01] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: what does it say for driver?
[08:01] <ActionBoy> PeterBye: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[08:01]  * shirish out
[08:01] <rww> PeterBye: if so, you should have gotten that number from Canonical. If not, there is no free tech support number.
[08:01] <f3tal3rr0r> "nvidia"
[08:01] <PeterBye> ubuntu is a free o/s
[08:01] <a2z> i want to access a public wifi hotspot which can be accessbile from my veranda and i have a pc without a WiFi router so i am planning to buy a usb wifi adaptor and use an extension cable
[08:01] <PeterBye> it has to be free
 what is the maximum length of cable that i can use?
[08:01] <rww> PeterBye: phone support is not free
[08:01] <PeterBye> it's part of the contract
[08:02] <rww> PeterBye: support in this channel is free
[08:02] <rww> PeterBye: no, it isn't
[08:02] <PeterBye> you mean our cost center ?
[08:02] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay thats fine
[08:02] <PeterBye> it's 482111
[08:02] <Glimmerman> are you guys also have problems installing 8.10???
[08:02] <Guest88569> how can i untar a file with extension tar.bz2 ?
[08:02] <ActionBoy> PeterBye: the OS is free, support is provided by the community unless you pay for a support contract
[08:02] <PeterBye> well Jon said we could call them anytime for tech support but he didn't give me the number before he went on vacation
[08:02] <_2> Guest88569 tar -xf file.name
[08:02] <PeterBye> and I can't reach him on his pager
[08:03] <Glimmerman> i'm getting all sorts of page errors and faults on install of 8.10
[08:03] <reqqit> PeterBye, where did Jon go on holiday?
[08:04] <f3tal3rr0r> so...
[08:04] <_2> Guest88569 if you just like to specify the compression format, tar -xjf file.name
[08:04] <a2z> i want to access a public wifi hotspot which can be accessbile from my veranda and i have a pc without a WiFi router so i am planning to buy a usb wifi adaptor and use an extension cable of length 7 meter will this work?
[08:04] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: what does lspci | grep VGA give you
[08:04] <PeterBye> i'm not sure - they don't tell us anything around here
[08:04] <PeterBye> they just said he was on vacation
[08:04] <reqqit> PeterBye, does Jon like you? Or is he a little cold with you?
[08:04] <PeterBye> do any of you know Jon ?
[08:05] <reqqit> I do
[08:05] <Guest88569> thanks have accesed it
[08:05] <PeterBye> he's the guy down in the basement doing all the wiring and stuff with the computers
[08:05] <rww> PeterBye: try http://www.canonical.com/node/22
[08:05] <DIFH-iceroot> a2z: usb can only do 5meter without and activ hub
[08:05] <flemota> hello, i cant start my desktop FX
[08:05] <f3tal3rr0r> how do i make  |?
[08:05]  * rww sighs
[08:05] <rww> PeterBye: never mind
[08:05] <reqqit> PeterBye, give him credit, he does more than wiring and stuff
[08:05] <loxley_> PeterBye: come on, wake up
[08:05] <mattgyver83> a2z, i dont see why not.
[08:05] <ActionBoy> I just installed hardy on my laptop (ThinkPad X30 with Intel 830MG graphics) and I have pretty bad color banding on the default desktop (either with the default wallpaper, or some arbitrary gradient). Best I can tell the resolution/colordepth are where they should be, not sure what else to look for/try...
[08:05] <flemota> #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-ar
[08:06] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: its usually under the backspace key
[08:06] <reqqit> PeterBye, my guess is Jon doesn't like you Pete, and wanted to palm off having to support your inane queries about the computer system while he was diving for treasure. :(
[08:06] <PeterBye> look our website is down and it has to be up and the computer guy isn't here
[08:06] <PeterBye> so i need to call ubuntu
[08:06] <a2z> matt  and DIFH i am planning to get 2 USB extensions and join them
[08:06] <PeterBye> i can't get to the website
[08:06] <f3tal3rr0r> nopthing happens
[08:07] <PeterBye> i always see him in this thing where u type so i'm trying to get answers to my questions
[08:07] <_2> a2z cat5 length limit is about 100m
[08:07] <mattgyver83> a2z, sounds like it will work just fine.  its the same principal as using an extension cord to plug in something across the room.
[08:07] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: okay. pastebin all of lspci
[08:07] <f3tal3rr0r> lspci | grep vga nothing happens\
[08:07] <shashi__> Anyone give me the URL from where i can check the MD5SUM of Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop AMD64 ?
[08:07] <a2z> cat5 can be used with usb dongle?
[08:07] <f3tal3rr0r> ?"
[08:07] <reqqit> PeterBye, Jon told me that he left you Mike Hunt's number
[08:07] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: note that VGA is in capitals
[08:07] <jim_p> f3tal3rr0r: lspci | grep VGA
[08:07] <bekah> anyone here know how to design new login screen themes for ubuntu for desktops
[08:07] <PeterBye> what building is Mike in
[08:07] <shashi__> I am not able to find in ubuntu.com
[08:07] <PeterBye> is he in building three ?
[08:07] <a2z> matt someone told me that USB does not work over 3 meter
[08:07] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: note that VGA is in capitals
[08:07] <reqqit> PeterBye, maybe someone there knows Mike's number
[08:08] <reqqit> Perhaps, ask around, he might still be here
[08:08] <f3tal3rr0r> okay
[08:08] <DIFH-iceroot> a2z: 5meters
[08:08] <mattgyver83> a2z, ive never heard that, but i guess its possible.
[08:08] <PeterBye> i'll have to talk to jerry
[08:08] <reqqit> Ask if anyone has seen him lately
[08:08] <b33r> shashi__, http://goukihq.org/md5/
[08:08] <Quadrescence> Guys, should I just upgrade ubuntu? :/ Have there been any problems for anyone?
[08:08] <f3tal3rr0r> vga comp controller
[08:08] <f3tal3rr0r> lists 2 8800GT cards
[08:08] <DIFH-iceroot> a2z: usb can only do 5 meters without an activ usb-hub
[08:08] <PeterBye> look is there a supervisor a manager I can talk to
[08:08] <jim_p> bekah: you can download a gdm login screen from gnome-look.org and change pictures to yours. the hardest part is that .xml file :(
[08:08] <mattgyver83> i suggest anyone who wants to know if they should upgrade to 8.10 should just do it, whats the fun if you dont mess something up?!
[08:08] <shashi__> b33r: OK Thanks.
[08:09] <paul___> I followed ther instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash but flash still doesnt work on youtube.
[08:09] <rww> !md5 | shashi__
[08:09] <jim_p> f3tal3rr0r: do wou have 2 8800GT?
[08:09] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: are they in SLI?
[08:09] <reqqit> PeterBye, Jon was clear, but I don't have Mike's extension number, go and ask around see if anyone has him on their lists
[08:09] <Sorcererbob> Quadrescence: there are problems with every operating system. Windows has problems and so does Ubuntu
[08:09] <f3tal3rr0r> how do i tell?
[08:09] <f3tal3rr0r> they are in my system steup that way
[08:09] <PeterBye> well our website is down
[08:09] <loxley_> PeterBye: maybe join #yourcompany and sort out your stuff there
[08:09] <jim_p> Quadrescence: what vga are you on?
[08:09] <PeterBye> the world wide web, internet whatever it is called
[08:09] <a2z> So DIFH what shall i do to get this thing work?
[08:09] <Sorcererbob> PeterBye: the blagoblogs. If you're an XKCD fan
[08:10] <reqqit> PeterBye, I told you, go and ask some other people in your department if their have seen Mike Hunt anywhere around, he can fix it
[08:10] <f3tal3rr0r> i have an SLI system and i have it setup as sli in windows
[08:10] <DaBonBon> hi. any last moment things i must know, any ceveats, before upgrading to ubuntu 8.1?
[08:10] <DaBonBon> 8.10 i mean
[08:10] <reqqit> Sorcererbob, xkcd is a pile of fecal matter.
[08:10] <bekah> ah cool thanks jim_p
[08:10] <Sorcererbob> f3tal3rr0r: SLI or lack thereof is a hardware setting
[08:10] <PeterBye> reqqit, i already tried that - the only one here now is Jerry and he didn't answer my question
[08:10] <jim_p> f3tal3rr0r: now you need to install drivers and that nvidia control center
[08:10] <Sorcererbob> reqqit: I rather enjoy it. Why don't you like it?
[08:10] <jim_p> bekah: you are welcome
[08:10] <reqqit> PeterBye, ask jerry if he has seen Mike Hunt lately
[08:10] <Quadrescence> jim_p: 7800GS
[08:11] <f3tal3rr0r> ??
[08:11] <ziroday> !offtopic | PeterBye reqqit
[08:11] <PeterBye> reqqit, i asked him - he didn't answer he just turned around at his desk
[08:11] <jim_p> Quadrescence: then upgrade fearlessly. any wireless there too?
[08:11]  * rww sighs
[08:11] <Quadrescence> Nope
[08:11] <PeterBye> look guys this is really important I need to talk to a supervisor or a manager NOW
[08:11] <reqqit> Sorcererbob, it was good when he was talking about indicator lights synching, but then it died a quick and brutal death at the hands of feminist popularism and overty PC ideas.
[08:11] <jim_p> Quadrescence: upgrade
[08:11] <f3tal3rr0r> i have 2 8800gt nvidia cardsin my comp
[08:11] <PeterBye> if not I want a full refund and I want the internet back up ASAP
[08:11] <Quadrescence> jim_p: :D
[08:11] <reqqit> PeterBye, Demand that he tells you what he thinks of Mike Hunt
[08:11] <f3tal3rr0r> and they are bridged i can use them both under windows
[08:11] <jim_p> Quadrescence: and i assume all responsibility to fix stuff
[08:11] <rww> PeterBye, reqqit: please stop trolling each other.
[08:11] <loxley_> haha
[08:11] <Dextorion> lol
[08:11] <reqqit> rww aaaaw. The only alternative is work :(
[08:12] <rww> Flannel: thanks :)
[08:12] <jim_p> Quadrescence: (i meant upgrade to 8.10)
[08:12] <definitely> Hello all, i have problem, when i am watching videos there are no Red Colors.. everything a bit greeny and blue...
[08:12]  * reqqit sulks back to his programmer corner and invites PeterBye over to compare war stories
[08:12] <Flannel> reqqit: Please behave
[08:12] <Quadrescence> jim_p: Of course
[08:12] <rww> reqqit: :P. Entertainingly, there's actually somebody by that name at my office O_O
[08:12] <P_Kable> I need to test my fail2ban conf, could someone please try 3 connection to my ssh and tell me if they get kicked ?
[08:12] <jim_p> P_Kable: me!!!!
[08:12] <rww> P_Kable: sure, why not
[08:13] <P_Kable> thanks
[08:13] <definitely> anyone.. ?
[08:13] <jim_p> definitely: what video player? it looks like a bad video output to me
[08:13] <_2> definitely adjust your monitor ?
[08:13] <definitely> jim_p: gnome-mplayer, totem movie player
[08:14] <P_Kable> well you guys have my ip...
[08:14] <woody86> ok, so what happened? I had Ubuntu 8.10 installed with the internet working, and I installed Kubuntu as well, but now I can't connect to my wireless network??
[08:14] <f3tal3rr0r> @ziroday you there still?
[08:14] <definitely> With my monitor everything should be ok, i tryed in GIMP, with colors everything ok
[08:14] <rww> P_Kable: testing now
[08:14] <jim_p> definitely: adjust the monitor then. you have 2 different backends and you still have distorted coloer
[08:14] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: yep. err I think the issue is with sli and your nvidia cards. Try running nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <definitely> jim_p: where to adjust monitor ?
[08:14] <P_Kable> it should kick you after 3 tries rww
[08:14] <f3tal3rr0r> how?
[08:15] <rww> P_Kable: Yeah, I can't connect to the server any more
[08:15] <rww> P_Kable: so i assume it worked
[08:15] <definitely> with my monitor everything ok. Windows worked fine.
[08:15] <P_Kable> rww=> thanks a lot !
[08:15] <definitely> jim_p: In M$ Winblows everything is ok, it cant be monitor
[08:15] <_2> jim_p note he did say gimp was outputing colour correctly tho
[08:15] <rww> P_Kable: no problem, you reminded me to go set up fail2ban myself :)
[08:15] <P_Kable> rww=> hehe
[08:15] <jim_p> definitely: what video output do you have set in gnome-mplayer?
[08:15] <a2z> matt u here?
[08:16] <jim_p> i dont care about totem
[08:16] <mattgyver83> a2z yes
[08:16] <definitely> jim_p: this is not seted hmm, just empty tables but i can choose
[08:16] <donithegreat> hey how can i add my own language to ubuntu?
[08:16] <f3tal3rr0r> i get warnings
[08:16] <definitely> jim_p: wich i need to have ?
[08:16] <jim_p> definitely: choose gl or xv
[08:16] <definitely> Wich is better then ? :D
[08:16] <donithegreat> hey how can i add my own language to ubuntu?
[08:16] <rww> donithegreat: which language?
[08:17] <a2z> so i need to get a wifi dongle 1 five metre cable 1 HUB and 1 2 metre cable and i am set ? right?
[08:17] <DistroJockey> definitely, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/184440
[08:17] <jim_p> definitely: for my ati, its gl :( i wish it was nv
[08:17] <donithegreat> rww farsi
[08:17] <jim_p> *xv
[08:17] <f3tal3rr0r> warning cant find a bunch of stuff like corekeyboard and corpointer
[08:17] <jianjun> Hi
[08:17] <mattgyver83> that sounds like it should do the trick, worst case scenario, return it :)
[08:17] <donithegreat> rww: farsi or persian
[08:17] <FliP50> in the term, how does a person list hidden files or dirs
[08:18] <a2z> okk thanks man!!
[08:18] <jianjun> I want a bug of gtk.  kongove@ubuntu:~$ gedit
[08:18] <jianjun> (gedit:6442): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/16x16 of theme oxygen has no size field
[08:18] <jianjun> (gedit:6442): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/22x22 of theme oxygen has no size field
[08:18] <a2z> what should a hub cost?
[08:18] <mattgyver83> a2z, is it like a starbucks hotspot your trying to get on?>
[08:18] <jianjun> Why ?
[08:18] <definitely> jim_p: still the same with XV
[08:18] <donithegreat> hey how can i add my own language to ubuntu?
[08:18] <jianjun> My system is 8.10
[08:18] <jim_p> definitely: then its a bug like DistroJockey said
[08:18] <DistroJockey> FliP50,  ls -al   should do the job
[08:18] <jianjun> language-selector
[08:18] <a2z> no its not starbucks its a medical shop near my home its hotspot lol
[08:18] <definitely> jim_p: It will be fixed.. ?
[08:18] <donithegreat> jianjun: where is the language selector?
[08:18] <mattgyver83> a2z, do a lot of people access it you think?
[08:19] <jim_p> definitely: dunno. read the launchpad site
[08:19] <mattgyver83> a2z, because my advice to people is if too many people are using it you might get crappy dl speeds
[08:19] <a2z> No i dont think so.. i think im the only one :P
[08:19] <mattgyver83> a2z, sounds like a good idea then ;)
[08:19] <DistroJockey> definitely, workarounds are suggested I believe at that link I posted
[08:19] <mattgyver83> brb, restarting into 8.10 lets see if my comptuer starts.
[08:19] <a2z> no man! i tried it with my lappy and i got 250 kBps
[08:19] <a2z> :P
[08:19] <Decepticon> how do i add the user 'decepticon' to the group 'mythtv'
[08:20] <definitely> DistroJockey: Thnx
[08:20] <DistroJockey> definitely, no problem
[08:20] <esac> Decepticon, gpasswod -a decepticon mythtv
[08:20] <esac> Decepticon, sorry, gpasswd
[08:20] <leohartx> good afternoon
[08:20] <anyan> 有简体中文用户么？
[08:20] <jianjun> 有
[08:20] <esac> !en | anyan
[08:20] <Sorcererbob> anyan: yes. Yes indeed.
[08:20] <Decepticon> how do i check what groups i am in, if i am decepticon
[08:20] <_2> Decepticon or usermod -aG mythtv Decepticon
[08:21] <jianjun> anyan~怎么了
[08:21] <_2> Decepticon groups
[08:21] <jim_p> Decepticon: id decepticon
[08:21] <leohartx> how do i format and delete and merge partition in ubuntu ?
[08:21] <esac> timtowtdi
[08:21] <anyan> 我刚装了这个系统，想在 这个平台上看网络TV，如何设置？
[08:21] <rww> donithegreat: sorry, took a sec to find the right packages. Install language-support-fa and language-pack-fa
[08:21] <juniecho> anyan, jianjun, please use english in this channel. if you want to chat in chinese, go to chinese forum
[08:21] <jim_p> leohartx: with gparted...?
[08:22] <leohartx> i want to merge 2 partitions in NFTS into 1 partition with ext3
[08:22] <juniecho> leohartx//hi, no luck yesterday?
[08:22] <rww> donithegreat: you can either do that using Synaptic, or from the terminal with sudo apt-get install language-support-fa language-pack-fa
[08:22] <_2> leohartx format and delete ?   trying to make it unrecoverable ?
[08:22] <jianjun> anyan:我用tomta看youtube的视频
[08:22] <jim_p> leohartx: do they have data you need in there?
[08:22] <jianjun> 你把解码器装全
[08:22] <f3tal3rr0r> so no help ziroday?
[08:22] <leohartx> juniecho/ hi, yes, i reinstalled my ubuntu
[08:22] <rww> !cn jianjun
[08:22] <rww> !cn | jianjun
[08:22] <_2> leohartx just delete them.  and make the new one.
[08:22] <woody86> can anyone please help! I had Ubuntu 8.10 installed with the internet working, and I installed Kubuntu as well, but now I can't connect to my wireless network??
[08:22] <leohartx> jim_p no
[08:23] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: did you run nvidia-xconfig
[08:23] <stimpie> woody86, the new networkmanager is a mess
[08:23] <juniecho> leohartx//merging partition can cause a whole bunch of problems, i'd never recommend it
[08:23] <jianjun> anyan～ Please join in #ubuntu-cn
[08:23] <jim_p> leohartx: then delete both partitions from gparted and make a new one with all the space in ext3
[08:23] <jim_p> leohartx: 30 seconds work
[08:23] <leohartx> _2 but there are 1 other partition after them
[08:23] <f3tal3rr0r> yeah gave me tons of warning like cant fin corepoint corekeyboard
[08:23] <leohartx> sda7
[08:23] <anyan> 我是 第一次接触这个 系统，菜S了，呵呵
[08:23] <Polysics> hi all
[08:23] <rww> !cn | anyan
[08:23] <woody86> stimpie the one for Kubuntu? The gnome one was working fine for a long time before I added Kubuntu to my computer
[08:23] <drcode> Hi all, any one know console torrent client?
[08:24] <Polysics> chacnes someone can point me to an image for  Mobile USB version?
[08:24] <rww> drcode: rtorrent
[08:24] <leohartx> juniecho is there any way to do that ?
[08:24] <juniecho> leohartx// back up all your data with some external hard disk, delete two partitions, then create a new one
[08:24] <_2> leohartx it will probably be renumbered but shouldn't hurt anything.
[08:24] <jim_p> drcode: qtorrent
[08:24] <drcode> thanx
[08:24] <anyan> 好的，谢谢jianjun
[08:24] <jianjun> anyan ~ Which system are you used?
[08:24] <_2> leohartx what is the partition after "them" ?
[08:24] <leohartx> _2 i've tried last night
[08:24] <jim_p> drcode: i made a mistake. qtorrent needs a gui :(
[08:25] <juniecho> leohartx//yeah, well, you need an external hard drive or something big like that, and... to do the partition job, use gparted.
[08:25] <leohartx> but i failed
[08:25] <anyan> jianjun,我不太懂英文
[08:25] <mattgyver83> 8.10, longest boot of my life.
[08:25] <juniecho> leohartx//or, you could download GPartEd live CD.
[08:25] <shad0w0fsin_> hey everyone, I'm having a dns problem in intrepid, I can't access google.com but I can access 209.85.171.99, any ideas?
[08:25] <_2> leohartx gksudo gparted #try again.
[08:25] <juniecho> ANYAN, IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, GO TO CHINESE FORUM.
[08:25] <leohartx> juniecho i'd tried all those solutions
[08:25] <Polysics> anyone? can't really find the Mobile USB version anywhere :-(
[08:25] <jianjun> 来这里我们聊吧   irc.ubuntu.cn    #xiyoulinux
[08:25] <Flannel> !caps | juniecho
[08:26] <_2> leohartx you will have to make sure that they are not mounted.
[08:26] <juniecho> sorry flannel
[08:26] <DistroJockey> Polysics, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/  (no 8.10 but there is a 8.10-RC)
[08:26] <Flannel> anyan: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:26] <Polysics> DistroJockey, is it the last one?
[08:26] <anyan> Firefox can't find the server at irc.ubuntu.cn.
[08:26] <anyan> 出错，呵呵
[08:26] <juniecho> leohartx// well, in some cases gparted can fail, hmm, i had similar problem long time ago... let me think.
[08:26] <Flannel> anyan: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:26] <leohartx> _2 but after 2 partitions i want to format is another patition
[08:27] <Polysics> it looks like it is for MID devices
[08:27] <DistroJockey> Polysics, depends what you mean by mobile USB version
[08:27] <Polysics> but i will try
[08:27] <rww> anyan: channel #ubuntu-cn, server irc.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <Sierra> Hello, I know you're probably busy but I'm in a Live Session and I noticed that the "Volume Control" mutes recording from all Capture sources when you close the program. I was going to file a bug report but wanted to see if this wasn't just an issue on my end
[08:27] <esac> !cn > anyan
[08:27] <_2> leohartx i got that the first time.
[08:27] <Polysics> DistroJockey, there should be a netbook.specific version around, for ie. my Asus EEE 900
[08:27] <leohartx> juniecho yeah, and i dont want to install OS again :(
[08:27] <Polysics> i've seen a review, but it didn't have links :-(
[08:27] <jarco> is there an easy command to let open office update to the latest version? I installed ibex but it comes with the 2.4. I prefer the 3.x version
[08:28] <leohartx> _2 so, do you have any solution ?
[08:28] <juniecho> leohartx//yeah you need to use some livecd so you can do the partition job without installing something
[08:28] <Flannel> jarco: No Ubuntu releases officially have OOo3
[08:28] <jarco> ohw
[08:28] <DistroJockey> Polysics, ubuntu-8.10-rc-mobile-i386.img     is listed
[08:28] <juniecho> leohartx//well, try SystemRecoveryCd.
[08:28] <DistroJockey> Polysics, as is ubuntu-8.10-rc-mid-lpia.img
[08:28] <rww> jarco: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/08/test-drive-openoffice-3-beta-in-ubuntu/
[08:28] <Flannel> jarco: However, intrepid-backports should have it in a bit, if you can wait.  Also, I believe theres a PPA with it currently
[08:28] <jarco> Flannel,  when i do a manual install. Will it be overridden when the officeial package comes out?
[08:29] <DistroJockey> Polysics, but no non -RC for those 2 yet
[08:29] <jarco> yeah i can wait :d
[08:29] <juniecho> leohartx// www.sysresccd.org
[08:29] <Polysics> DistroJockey, ok, so i'll just wait a little more. thanks!
[08:29] <leohartx> juniecho so, i can merge 2 partition without any probs ?
[08:29] <_2> leohartx yes dismount the file systems on the partitions in question, then delete the partitions in question, and make a new partition where the empty space is.     i think i can do that with gparted   but i'm sure i can with cfdisk
[08:29] <Flannel> jarco: Your manual install should be in /usr/local/, as long as its there, the package manager wont touch it
[08:29] <Polysics> actually, the MId version is in the official area, but not the mobiel version
[08:29] <DistroJockey> Polysics, *nods* no problem
[08:29] <jarco> ok
[08:29] <jarco> thx for the help guys :D
[08:29] <ditch64> hello, i have a rather annoying problem i was hoping someone here could maybe help me with
[08:29] <leohartx> _2 cfdisk ?
[08:29] <juniecho> well, leohartx, the thing is, you're NOT merging two partitions, but deleting one and expanding the other one.
[08:29] <leohartx> _2 a command ?
[08:30] <rww> !ask | ditch64
[08:30] <_2> leohartx don't ask me to demonstrate though. cause i don't have any partitionl
[08:30] <_2> leohartx man cfdisk
[08:30] <juniecho> leohartx// your hdd is like this: [partition1][partition2] and you'll make it like [partition1][emptyspace], then expand like [partition1       ]
[08:30] <leohartx> juniecho yeah, i know, but there is another patition after 2 partitions i want to merge
[08:31] <leohartx> juniecho like this : [partition1][partition2][partition3]
[08:31] <ditch64> lol ok, basically i left windows (i run ubuntu on my laptop an i love it) im putting it on my desktop now, i installed it like 9 times trying to figure it out, well EVERY time i try to load i get a GRUB error stating ERROR 21, now im not dual booting even though i have plans on doing so, but just trying to get ubuntu to work it does it
[08:31] <juniecho> leohartx//so what is the result you want?
[08:31] <leohartx> juniecho i want to join 1 and 2 into 1
[08:32] <leohartx> juniecho i mean partition1 and partition2
[08:32] <leohartx> juniecho is it possible ?
[08:32] <juniecho> leohartx//in that case you need to back up all the files in partition2 and delete partition2, then it will be like [partition1][emptyspace][partition3]
[08:32] <woody86> Can anyone help me out? I used to be able to connect fine in Gnome, but after I installed KDE, I can't connect to my netwrok in Gnome anymore
[08:33] <juniecho> now there is an empty space, you could expand partition1 with that space like [partition1---------][partition3]
[08:33] <leohartx> juniecho partition1 and 2 aren't nessaccery any more
[08:33] <ditch64> no ideas anybody?
[08:34] <esac> !patience | ditch64
[08:34] <rww> !grub | ditch64, take a look at these and see if they help
[08:34] <jim_p> ditch64: please give me a sec
[08:34] <leohartx> juniecho this i my HDD : [swap][linux][partitioin1][partition2][partition3]
[08:34] <juniecho> leohartx//so what? partition1 can be extended so that it can take all the space previously assigned to partition1+partition2, then it could be reformatted.
[08:34] <ditch64> sorry, im just tired, ive been working on this for like 2 days now i do apologise
[08:35] <jim_p> ditch64:  21 : "Unknown boot failure" This error is returned if the boot attempt did not succeed for reasons which are unknown.
[08:35] <leohartx> juniecho is there any prob if i merge partition1 and 2 ?
[08:35] <chronosx> how can i check for crontab error?
[08:35] <juniecho> leohartx//so do you want it to be like, [swap][linux][partition3]?
[08:35] <zidane_tr> what do ppl reckon is better? 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[08:35] <jim_p> ditch64: can you do a small description of the partitions layout?
[08:35] <jim_p> zidane_tr: are you on more that 4GB of ram?
[08:35] <juniecho> leohartx//yes, if you actually merge the partitions, problems will occur, because there can be duplicate folder/file name entries, so on
[08:36] <leohartx> juniecho no, like this [swap][linux][newpartition in ext3][partition3]
[08:36] <zidane_tr> not yet but i am looking at going to 4gb jim_p
[08:36] <_2> zidane_tr 64bit  but only if you have 64 bit hardware, and you what 64bit software.  other wise 32bit.
[08:36] <ditch64> jim_p: i have an EXT3 partition that is 73GB and a 3GB swap area
[08:36] <Sierra> Just confirmed on three systems about the mute-capture-on-close for the Volume Control, any one know if there could be a legitimate cause of this?
[08:36] <zidane_tr> what im getting at is there any disadvantages with 64-bit?
[08:36] <juniecho> leohartx//that's easy, delete partition1, partition2, then it will be like [swap][linux][empty space][partition 3]
[08:36] <jim_p> zidane_tr: then go 64 bit and prepare bor flash stupidity
[08:36] <jim_p> *for
[08:36] <kiosk> kki
[08:36] <jim_p> ditch64: one drive only?
[08:37] <juniecho> leohartx//and then you could create a new partition, using whole empty space.
[08:37] <ditch64> yes
[08:37] <leohartx> juniecho will it occur error ?
[08:37] <jim_p> ditch64: reisntall grub then
[08:37] <Bossmanbeta> I've done apt-get firefox-3.0 in Ubuntu Gutsy, yet all I seem to be able to run is my original firefox 2.x ... would anyone know how to apt-get/run firefox 3 under Gutsy?
[08:37] <kiosk> mksd loe
[08:37] <stapel> anybody else have problems with fglrx drivers in 8.10?
[08:37] <kiosk> .....................
[08:37] <imotic> how do i reset my (wired) network connection?
[08:37] <_2> zidane_tr what i mean is, best is generally a state of mind around here.   "every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow"
[08:37] <Sierra> stapel: What card? Release notes have information about r3xx not working
[08:38] <jim_p> Bossmanbeta: you need to upgrade to a newwer version of ubuntu. 7.10 just became old like the parthenon
[08:38] <juniecho> leohartx//well, if you 'delete-recreate', you'll have no problem
[08:38] <stapel> ati 128MB radeon HD2400 Pro
[08:38] <ditch64> jim_p: well then i must figure that the install in the first place is bad, ive done the install Like 8-9 times so could it just that i need to do a reinstall of grub without a whole filesystem install?
[08:38] <zidane_tr> lol i hear ya _2
[08:38] <DistroJockey> Bossmanbeta, close all copies of FF2 then run FF3
[08:38] <Bossmanbeta> jim, I like Ubuntu 7.10 ... besides installting Firefox 3.03 manually, is there any way to apt-get it?
[08:39] <jim_p> ditch64: 21 : Selected disk does not exist    This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[08:39] <juniecho> it is NOT merging, it is claiming some empty area by deleting, so you can use the space to create a new big partition.
[08:39] <stapel> sierra: does this affect me?
[08:39] <Bossmanbeta> DistroJockey, I cannot seem to run firefox 3.... what's the executable name for it?
[08:39] <leohartx> juniecho another prob :), why my mounted ext3 partition can be read or written ?
[08:39] <Sierra> stapel: Only if you use a card from that series
[08:39] <kiosk> apa.....
[08:39] <DistroJockey> Bossmanbeta, either  firefox  or  firefox3  or  firefox-3  I guess
[08:39] <stapel> Sierra: How can I check? ATI website?
[08:40] <jim_p> Bossmanbeta: i dont think there is another way. compiling ff from source is a big job since it has some like 50 parammeters
[08:40] <juniecho> leohartx// what do you mean? of courese mounted ext3 partitions can be read or written.
[08:40] <Bossmanbeta> ah I got it.... firefox-3.0 <--  but it runs 3.0a
[08:40] <ditch64> jim_p: so then it just keeps trying to load a sector that doesnt exist?
[08:40] <Bossmanbeta> which is not the latest
[08:40] <Bossmanbeta> ...I guess i have to go manuall
[08:40] <DIFH-iceroot> Bossmanbeta: there is only ff2 in the repo, hardy has ff3 but the ubuntu version before only have ff2
[08:41] <juniecho> leohartx//because ext3 filesystem is for linux, of course linux supports ext3 filesystem. so, yeah, when the partition is mounted, it can read or write to it.
[08:41] <jim_p> Bossmanbeta: keep in mind that ff 3.03 needs the newest xurlrunner to compile!
[08:41] <leohartx> but last night, i'd tried many time but it didnt work
[08:41] <VSpike> Can anyone who knows how to use GDB have a look at this bug and suggest how I can debug it further? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/290673
[08:41] <jim_p> Bossmanbeta: you may have to compile it soo
[08:41] <Sierra> stapel: Are you using a laptop? Are you running Windows? You can check what video card you are running from it's control panel
[08:41] <jim_p> *too
[08:41] <imotic> anybody know how to reset the (wired) network connection in intrepid?
[08:41] <Flannel> !firefox | Bossmanbeta
[08:41] <Bossmanbeta> DIFH-iceroot, I haven't tried to compile ff3 ... ... when I apt-get'ed FF3, it auto isntalled curlrunner
[08:41] <leohartx> juniecho but last night, i'd tried many time but it didnt work
[08:41] <DIFH-iceroot> Bossmanbeta: ok
[08:41] <_2> imotic ifupdown ?
[08:41] <juniecho> leohartx//did you encounter some error messages?
[08:41] <jim_p> ditch64: can you give me some more specifications of your pc?
[08:41] <VSpike> It's really breaking 8.10 for me and I'd like to encourage the devs to look at it by adding as much info as I can
[08:41] <VSpike> Similarly, if anyone else has problems with fusesmb, please contribute to the bug
[08:42] <Bossmanbeta> thanks flannel
[08:42] <leohartx> juniecho no, but i did all of those in nautilus
[08:42] <_2> imotic sudo ifdown eth0 ;sudo ifup eth0     ???
[08:42] <leohartx> juniecho with gparted and disk manager
[08:43] <ditch64> jim_p: um not sure on the MB, 3 gigs of ram 80 GB HD ATA Seagate, Intel Core 2 DUO 2ghz
[08:43] <stapel> Sierra: No Windoze. Bought a brand new dell inspiron 530 desktop. Got it yesterday and immediately upgraded. Now 3d effects don't work, and driver from proprietry hardware can't be activated
[08:43] <juniecho> leohartx//so the big thing is gparted, because IT is the partition editor. did you encounter any error messages when you used gparted?
[08:43] <xnv> Why is it when I change my network configuration, my /etc/resolv.conf is not updated?
[08:44] <bullgard4> How can I concatenate four .flv files to play them in Totem Movie Player?
[08:44] <jim_p> ditch64: ata as in paralel ata??
[08:44] <xnv> (I'm using 8.10)
[08:44] <Sierra> stapel: I'll check the stats online for you, hold a moment. I don't think though this particular issue will effect you since it's relevant to older ATIs but let me check first
[08:44] <ditch64> jim_p: i think so, it is the older style of connecting the HD, it is NOT SATA
[08:44] <leohartx> juniecho no, nothing
[08:44] <juniecho> hey guys, sorry to interrupt, but i want to autorun this command every time i start x, "xsetwacom set touch touch "0""
[08:44] <_2> bullgard4 cat file1 file2 file4 file4 > newfile
[08:44] <jim_p> bullgard4: cat file1.flv file2.flv file3.flv file4.flv > mergedfile.flv
[08:45] <juniecho> leohartx//so what are the steps you've taken yesterday?
[08:45] <_2> bullgard4 but don't typo like i did.
[08:45] <Sierra> junieco: Does System > Preferences > Sessions suffice?
[08:45] <jim_p> ditch64: let me think then
[08:45] <stapel> Sierra: thanx
[08:45] <bargaunmart> hey I once shot an elephant in my pajamas!
[08:45] <wers> how do i get the new gnome wallpapers?
[08:45] <juniecho> Sierra//does it apply before I log on? i mean, i want to disable touchscreen once and for all, even in log on screen.
[08:46] <_2> bargaunmart why was there an elephant in your pj's ?
[08:46] <bullgard4> imotic: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:46] <imotic> bullgard4, is that new?
[08:46] <bargaunmart> gee I wisd i knew!
[08:46] <leohartx> juniecho 1. i used disk manager as SU to unmount 2 partitions.  2. i used gparted as SU to delete and format 1 parttiton 3. iused disk manager to mount new partition
[08:46] <bullgard4> _2: Your answer is wrong.
[08:46] <jim_p> ditch64: can you make a small ~51-100 MB /boot partition?
[08:46] <darren_> Hello to all, not sure if i am  in the right channel, i am interested  in making my own web site. could some one please recommend good software and do i need to have a server running, sorry i am very new to this thank you
[08:46] <naxa> hi! i've just installed interpid ibex! First everything was beautiful, desktop cube worked on my intel 82945/GZ integrated card, but then I went to system->settings->GL desktop, and everything instantly went slow, strange stripes appeared on my sidebar and then disappeared, and the whole display is very-very slow! If I disable compiz it restores to normal, but it worked fine out of the box at the first time even with compiz. it only went wrong w
[08:46] <naxa> hen i opened the GL desktop program from settings. but after that, it never restored to normal, it is allways slow. what should I do? I use the intel driver (I read, however, that the new xorg possibly can bypass this in the xorg.conf and simply autodetect the card!)
[08:47] <rexwin> i am getting error Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libglib2.0-0 2.16.4-0ubuntu3
[08:47] <rexwin>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[08:47] <blunder> ok now
[08:47] <ditch64> jim_p: im not sure if this make a difference but, i just went into "superuser" on terminal and went into grub, typed in "Find /boot/grub/stage1" and it said "error 15: File not found"
[08:47] <bullgard4> jim_p: Your answer is wrong.
[08:47] <_2> bullgard4 how so ?   other than the typo ?  file4 twice ?
[08:47] <rexwin> when trying to run sudo aptitude install imagemagick
[08:47] <DracoZA> darren_ You are bound to find more detailed information on your query via Google, there are just too many options and ways to discuss here
[08:47] <jim_p> bullgard4: why?
[08:47] <DistroJockey> ignore bullgard4 he's a troll
[08:47] <Sierra> stapel: I can't seem to find what video card the dell inspiron 530 uses, apparently it's an intel one.
[08:47] <juniecho> .....hmm, leohartx, instead of booting into linux installation, try using a livecd. try systemrescuecd.
[08:47] <ditch64> jim_p: yea i can make one but ive already tried everything from auto install to a really small boot partition to a really big one
[08:48] <bullgard4> _2: Totem will play only the first part and stop then.
[08:48] <darren_> DracoZA,  ok ill have to search around, but do i need a server running
[08:48] <bullgard4> jim_p: Totem will play only the first part and stop then.
[08:48] <resmo> hi
[08:48] <_2> bullgard4 you asked how to concatinate them. we told you.  you didn't ask how to decode them.
[08:49] <jim_p> ditch64: is there some thing on the bios about hdds? does the drive get recognised properly?
[08:49] <JeremyBicha> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition shows a screenshot of an expanded help menu in the Gnome System menu, does anyone else have this or know why I still have the old "Help & Support"?
[08:49] <DracoZA> darren_ it's probably easier to find a web hosting service in the beginning that can do it very cheap
[08:49] <leohartx> juniecho what do i have to do
[08:49] <Sierra> stapel: According to the release notes "The ATI video driver in 8.10 drops support for video cards with r300 based chips (the Radeon 9500 - X600 Series of cards)"
[08:49] <jim_p> bullgard4: use avidemux then. it will take much longer
[08:49] <darren_> DracoZA, ok thanks for the reply
[08:49] <juniecho> leohartx// to download systemrescuecd, go to www.sysresccd.org and download the livecd image, burn it,
[08:49] <stapel> Sierra: No it's definetely ATI. 128MB radeon HD 2400
[08:49] <bullgard4> _2: I asked for playing in Totem.
[08:49] <DracoZA> darren_ No prob, good luck
[08:50] <xnv> It appears to me that the 8.10 Network Configuration is not working.  If I change my DNS server and search domain, it appears to have no effect. /etc/resolv.conf is not changed and my pings indicate no changes.
[08:50] <juniecho> leohartx//when finished, keep the cd in and restart the system to boot into systemrescuecd. it contains all the tools you need to restore a system, of courese including partition editor.
[08:50] <_2> bullgard4 as jim_p said, but that's not "concatinating" that's decoding,   decide what you want before you ask.
[08:50] <ditch64> jim_p: well right now im running off of a live CD because this is the only way i can use the computer so im not sure if i can modify anything in here or if anything works with the HD from here since im running off of the CD
[08:50] <xnv> Anyone know what's going on?
[08:50] <blunder> ok so no show stoppers on the 8.10 cool
[08:51] <ditch64> jim_p so im not sure if terminal will modify anything when im in LIVE CD
[08:51] <juniecho> leohartx//i'll restart x, be right back.
[08:51] <Sierra> stapel: Ahh ok then, then it doesn't appear relevant to that particular problem. I'm sorry but the only ATI gear I have is a Mobility X2300 so I can't assist you further
[08:51] <FredTC> I'm sorry to bother you folks, but I just finished the Ibex upgrade and have a slight problem...
[08:51] <Sierra> stapel: Plenty of ATI users around though, keep trying or have a look on the ubuntu forums
[08:51] <FredTC> When trying to connect to a wireless network, I get NO option to enter a WPA password...
[08:51] <jim_p> ditch64: it can do the grub and if you chroot you can do more
[08:51] <patrick-1> hey all, im trying to mount an md device using an ubuntu 7 livecd which wont work... anyone got an idea on that?
[08:51] <bullgard4> jim_p: 'man avidemux' does not mention 'concatenat*' nor .flv. How can this work?
[08:52] <resmo> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (fresh setup), User management alias user-admin is not working correctly imho, can not unlock (sudo) because this button is not enabled. Any hints? Bug?
[08:52] <ditch64> jim_p: ya see i have no idea what that means
[08:52] <mikebeecham> can someone tell me how I can remove the 'wired connection' icon from my panel?  I've right-clicked but there is no option to remove from panel
[08:52] <Bossmanbeta> flannel thanks for that firefox 3 help
[08:52] <ziroday> resmo: it uses policykit, you shouldn't start it with sudo users-admin. Just start it with users-admin
[08:52] <jim_p> bullgard4: what does concatentate mean? merge?
[08:52] <Bossmanbeta> Flannel I used UbuntuZilla ... python script......... worked perfectly.
[08:53] <resmo> ziroday: i tried to use it in gnome GUI so not in CLI, but the button is not enabled
[08:53] <DracoZA> jim_p correct
[08:53] <stapel> Sierra: thanx. Is a bit dissapointed though, that I spend money buying this exact machine from Dell, because I thought this way, I will know that all my hardware is supported
[08:53] <reqqit> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2006-May/015656.html << Look at this query on rsync - I am looking to tune the same thing for scp on 6.06 - I want to set TTL and max connections on a server, but nothing seems to be working (all results give xml config files, which sshd doesn't seem to use)
[08:53] <bullgard4> jim_p: To connect in series.
[08:53] <ziroday> resmo: you need to click on the "unlock" button
[08:53] <SpinachHead> does the upgrade from 8.4 to 8.10 work as well as a new 8.10 installation, or is it better to keep a home dir and blow 8.4 away with a new 8.10 install?
[08:53] <resmo> ziroday: exactly this button is NOT enabled can not click on it
[08:54] <ziroday> resmo: you mean its greyed out?
[08:54] <Sierra> stapel: Personally I can't stand ATI, I find nVidia to be supported better despite what the group think says.
[08:54] <resmo> ziroday: yep
[08:54] <patrick-1> http://pastebin.ca/index.php this is my /proc/partitions .. how do i enable the livecd to be able to mount the md devices i previously created?
[08:54] <prabu> hello how to edit the boot menu ?
[08:54] <_2> !grub > prabu
[08:54] <bullgard4> SpinachHead: "work as well" is ambiguous. Both procedures have their disadvantages.
[08:54] <ziroday> resmo: can you verify you have the package policykit-gnome and libpolkit-gnome0 installed
[08:55] <resmo> ziroday: mom plz
[08:55] <SpinachHead> well, the last time i did a upgrade on another linux flavor, it performed poorly, thats why asking...
[08:55] <FredTC> Anyone?
[08:55] <DistroJockey> SpinachHead, if your /home is on a separate partition, (and you don't mind configuring and installing the extra software you want) I would do a clean install
[08:55] <SpinachHead> yeah, thats where im leaning right now
[08:56] <mikebeecham> can someone tell me how I can remove the 'wired connection' icon from my panel?  I've right-clicked but there is no option to remove from panel
[08:56] <xnv> Does anyone understand the new Network Configuration stuff? I want to know why my changes are not taking effect or being reflected in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:56] <ziroday> Hi, which version of the nvidia drivers do I need to install for a Nvidia GeForce 5500FX?
[08:57] <blunder> wow the irc logs from the 30th are 2.4meg heheh
[08:57] <FredTC> xnv: can't say I do...all I want is for it to let me enter a WPA passphrase and it seems that's no longer an option
[08:57] <cpro> hi
[08:57] <resmo> ziroday: both are installed
[08:57] <cpro> can any budy tell me how to upgrade to 8.10
[08:57] <_2> mikebeecham this is a stab in the dark, but; have you tried clicking the icon to open the app then using it's menu to quit said app ?
[08:57] <mattgyver83> one downside to 8.10, after installing.  Viewing in firefox looks just like IE, it use to be sharp and look better... now it looks like garb
[08:58] <xnv> FredTC: I don't have a problem with that
[08:58] <bullgard4> cpro: Join #ubuntu+1. People there will tell you.
[08:58] <ziroday> resmo: and your user has the necessary privilages to use the gnome utils?
[08:58] <ziroday> !upgrade | cpro
[08:58] <xnv> bullgard4: Is #ubuntu+1 still 8.10?
[08:58] <f3tal3rr0r> @ ziroday SO i now know that the reason is becasue this kernel has xen enabled and the driver doesnt work with xen enabled kernels
[08:58] <prabu> any 1 knows how to edit the boot menu ?
[08:58] <keneida> hello, during upgrade to 8.10 system crashes on starting irda utills. It happened also when i was upgrading to 8.04.what i should check?
[08:58] <mikebeecham> _2: I'm a 3 day old linux user....can I do that without dropping my connection?
[08:58] <ziroday> f3tal3rr0r: ah! glad to hear you worked it out
[08:59] <FredTC> xnv: I seem to be the only one, which makes this even weirder...
[08:59] <resmo> ziroday: is in admin group
[08:59] <resmo> so
[08:59] <xnv> FredTC: Are you sure your card/drivers support it?
[08:59] <f3tal3rr0r> thank you to abe3k for helping me thus far\
[08:59] <bullgard4> xnv: No longer.
[08:59] <FredTC> xnv: It's worked fine from Feisty-Hardy
[08:59] <lclimber> hello, everyone, lastnighti was trying toupgrademyinstallation of ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, somehowthe installation did not work, andi had torestart my pcbecouseithung, now i can't even start the gdm, isthere a way to upgradeusing apt-get i mean is it safe to use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:00] <zdux00tv> does the new version of ubunt include SELinux ?
[09:00] <zdux00tv> !selinux
[09:00] <ziroday> resmo: are you in the polkit group?
[09:00] <_2> mikebeecham i whish i knew.  1) i'm still using dapper drake 6.6  2) i don't like gnome   3) i'm a console user that rarely starts a guy at all...   ;/
[09:00] <resmo> ziroday: nope
[09:00] <ziroday> resmo: can you add yourself
[09:00] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[09:00] <stapel> Anyone else have problems with ATI radeon HD 2400 in 8.10?
[09:01] <zidane_tr> is it possible that a radeon x600 could work better than a 3650 under linux?
[09:01] <firestorm> Hi. Am finding that my machine hangs at 'starting network' on bootup if I have wireless set to DHCP. Anybody else seen that with Intrepid?
[09:01] <_2> gui
[09:01] <resmo> ziroday: sure
[09:01] <prabu> hello i want to edit the boot menu . any ideas ?
[09:01] <Sierra> prabu: Do you mean GRUB?
[09:01] <prabu> yes . sierra
[09:01] <Sierra> prabu: The one that shows your different operating systems?
[09:01] <Sierra> prabu: The file is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:01] <DistroJockey> zidane_tr, very possible, depends on the driver
[09:02] <Dorobo18jp> anyone have a weather widget or screen let working that can help me get one on my desktop
[09:02] <leohartx> juniecho sysresccd is designed for linux ?
[09:02] <_2> !grub > prabu
[09:02] <lclimber> sorry, typing problems,i'llretype:hello, everyone, last night i was trying to upgrade my installation of ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, somehow the installation did not work, and i had to restart my pc becouse it hung, now i can't even start the gdm, is there a way to upgrade using apt-get i mean is it safe to use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:02] <prabu> ok i will try tat
[09:02] <blunder> I almost told him  sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.1st
[09:02] <juniecho> leohartx//sysresccd is BASED on linux :) don't worry
[09:02] <magnetron> lclimber→ use "sudo do-release-upgrade" instead, you can run it from the terminal
[09:02] <blunder> but not everyone uses vi
[09:02] <zidane_tr> kk thx DistroJockey
[09:02] <blunder> :(
[09:03] <DistroJockey> zidane_tr, np
[09:03] <ktemkin> Does anyone know how to configure keyboard layouts in the new HAL system?
[09:03] <lclimber> magnetron, i tried that but it says thereare no releases available
[09:03] <_2> blunder no?    ah yes. some use vim now days  :)))
[09:03] <magnetron> lclimber→ that means the upgrade finished
 It is a stupid bug. Nvidia guy said it is Totem problem or gstreamer.. Everyone said that the same with all players. Strange, is it bad if i set video output: X11 ?
[09:03] <leohartx> thankyou juniecho , im downloading it, hope it will work :)
[09:03] <ktemkin> I've tried using the XML in the fdi policy folder... it doesn't seem to be fixing my problem.
[09:03] <blunder> well vim/vi I love it
[09:03] <Sierra> If they're in GNOME or something wouldn't it be easier to tell them to access via something like gedit?
[09:04] <magnetron> definitely→ it'll be stupidly slow
[09:04] <juniecho> vi/vim is way too hard for linux n00bs like ME, gedit rocks
[09:04] <leohartx> 123 leohartx
[09:04] <zdux00tv> does anyone know if the new version of ubuntu uses SELinux ?
[09:04] <lclimber> it should, but my packages are not in last version, i mean i can upgrade them manually but i get conflicts
[09:04] <blunder> that is what I thought
[09:04] <definitely> magnetron: So by that stupid Nvidia i should stop watching videos  ?
[09:04] <definitely> .....
[09:04] <blunder> but learn vi if you can its POWERFUL
[09:04] <definitely> There wasn't any normal workaround
[09:05] <magnetron> definitely→ if you set it to X11, it'll be very slow. that's all i'm saying
[09:05] <osfameron> juniecho: gedit is quite simple to use.  Doesn't really do anything very much though :-)  vim isn't /that/ hard to use - try 'vimtutor' from command line or :help tutor from within vim.  Once you've worked through the tutorial you'll have an idea about what it can do, and it's not /all/ that scary.
[09:05] <DistroJockey> definitely, not familiar with the issue, but X11 is the main display framework
[09:05] <NeoBoY> hi
[09:05] <lclimber> juniecho, try nano
[09:05] <NeoBoY> salut
[09:05] <CROSSWINDS> anyone else finding.. ubuntu 8.10 kick arse as I do?
[09:06] <xnv> CROSSWINDS: No, I think it sucks already. HORRIBLE QA
[09:06] <Adam_> when I SSH in, why do I have less permissions?
[09:06] <CROSSWINDS> with some tweaks, i got it to 21 secsfrom poweron to desktop
[09:06] <prabu> i cant open the boot menu . i dont know why :(
[09:06] <tfo> hi all
[09:06] <Sierra> prabu: What problem is occuring?
[09:06] <tfo> I have a problem!
[09:06] <Adam_> cd ..
[09:06] <obama> hi, anybody else knows how to run matrix screensaver in the background?
[09:06] <xnv> CROSSWINDS: Won't even let me configure DNS servers/search domains from the new Network Manager. That is really pathetic.
[09:07] <tfo> when I wanna boot ubuntu 8.10 SYSTEM HALTED!
[09:07] <CROSSWINDS> sorry to hear that, i just use it as a stand alone desktop
[09:07] <DistroJockey> definitely, the reason I responded to your initial query was because I saw someone else with a similar query. (Which pointed to a bug, which led me to Google it) :)
[09:07] <prabu> i typed sudo vi /boot/ grub/ menu.1st
[09:07] <_2> Adam_ privledge seperation in sshd_config     #Privilege Separation is turned on for security
[09:07] <xnv> CROSSWINDS: Even as that I've seen several problems in the GUI. Lots of artifacts.
[09:07] <CROSSWINDS> i use the 64bit ver, had toforce install a fewthings for .04
[09:07] <_2> UsePrivilegeSeparation yes
[09:07] <definitely> DistroJockey: heh thnx anyway, nvidia guys are bithces..
[09:07] <wers> in hardy, the scroll part on the touchpad is too small. how do i adjust it/
[09:08] <CROSSWINDS> 8.10 didnt have to force anything
[09:08] <prabu> but its not opening
[09:08] <zdux00tv> I am going to assume selinux is included and blog to my communtity that they should avoid it as such, tfn
[09:08] <blunder> tfo, did you test the cdrom?
[09:08] <CROSSWINDS> artifacts? been a while sinceive seen them
[09:08] <tfo> MD5?
[09:08] <obama> Thanks for that. Unfortunately, however, the screensaver only shows in the 3d cube, not the whole background despite my attempts to do everything to make it work.
[09:08] <tfo> blunder, MD5?
[09:08] <blunder> well I believe there is a menu item that lets you
[09:08] <_2> prabu you can't edit /boot/  and you most likely don't have a grub/  or a menu.lst  in your home.
[09:08] <DistroJockey> definitely, the 177 driver is pretty buggy on my NVS Quadro at work, but works fine on my 8600 here
[09:08] <blunder> select test cdrom media
[09:09] <tfo> ya
[09:09] <CROSSWINDS> used to be compiz junkie,but i have it set up only to show off to people that think flip3d is cool
[09:09] <blunder> really?
[09:09] <CROSSWINDS> turned it offcompletely
[09:09] <tfo> but when I select it SYSTEM HALTED!
[09:09] <definitely> DistroJockey: Dunno just bought new pc, i thinked it will be ok for linux, but no, Nvidia is trying to kill me ;]
[09:09] <sken> hello  ubu guys
[09:09] <prabu> can u type tat again please
[09:09] <blunder> tfo you might need to use boot switches or somthing
[09:09] <blame> any nvidia legacy (GeForce4) drivers for 8.10 available?
[09:09] <Peddy> Has Openoffice 3 hit the Intrepid repos yet?
[09:09] <Falcons_roost> what is the same in Gome, as Kalarm? any please!
[09:09] <obama> Crosswinds, can you do that yourself by making the screensaver work in the background?
[09:10] <tfo> blunder, how?
[09:10] <sken> the latest version rocks!!!
[09:10] <CROSSWINDS> not tried that obama
[09:10] <CROSSWINDS> dont know for sure
[09:10]  * blunder looks online
[09:10] <DistroJockey> definitely, What card do you have again?
[09:10] <_2> !tab > prabu
[09:10] <sken> i installed it in my macbook and it rock too
[09:10] <definitely> DistroJockey: Geforce 9500 GT 1024 MB
[09:10] <obama> anybody else who can do that
[09:10] <ray_> hello  everyone
[09:11] <Sierra> definitely: I'm using an nVidia 9600GT on a Live session using drivers from nVidia.com what drivers are you using?
[09:11] <DistroJockey> definitely, They don't seem to be very quick with good drivers for new or non-mainstream cards
[09:11] <definitely> Sierra: 177
[09:11] <CROSSWINDS> i thought nvidia drivers were the best,thought it was ATI that always had people pulling their hair out when it comes tolinux
[09:11] <molgrum> i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and now when i play music in amarok or audacious, my rear speakers are silent. i have sound blaster live and the music players are using ALSA as output
[09:11] <tfo> blunder, isn't it MD5 error?
[09:11] <definitely> CROSSWINDS: YOu was wrong, Nvidia is giving they sources to MicroSux only..
[09:11] <DistroJockey> CROSSWINDS, things have swapped around in the last 6 months or so :)
[09:12] <CROSSWINDS> damn i regreted having an ati hd 2400 pcie
[09:12] <CROSSWINDS> guess i can take those thoughts back lol
[09:12] <DistroJockey> heh
[09:12] <blame> any nvidia legacy (GeForce4) drivers for 8.10 available?
[09:12]  * definitely next time will look around ATI. 
[09:12] <obama> crosswinds, how do i find what version of ubuntu is on my desktop, please?
[09:12] <blunder> tfo, you can md5 the cdrom using some cdrom software but I have never done that on anything but unix
[09:12] <CROSSWINDS> just open up a term and type uname -a
[09:13] <blunder> so for me it was using dd
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> if the kernel is 2.6.24-x
[09:13] <tfo> I think ISO file hasn't right MD5
[09:13] <_2> definitely by that time nv will be on the move again.....
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> its 8.04
[09:13] <obama> thanks
[09:13] <tfo> and it's the problem :(
[09:13] <jim_p> !grub | jim_p
[09:13] <blunder> can you md5 the iso file?
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> guys i fyou want a computer preinstalled with ubuntu 8.10
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> check out system76.com
[09:13] <Sierra> For anyone else who is experiencing the Volume Control capture-muting-on-exit I've created a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volume.app/+bug/291458
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> prebuilt system quads etc
[09:13] <CROSSWINDS> laptops
[09:13] <definitely> _2: doh, that time will be after 2 years.. ?
[09:14] <tfo> ya with md5sum ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[09:14] <CROSSWINDS> with ubuntu 8.10 and they have really kickarse configurations
[09:14] <Bodsda> CROSSWINDS, a bit !ot for here mate
[09:14] <FliP50> Whats the lattest and greatest IRC client out their
[09:14] <Madkiss> how do I disable the x-configuration-scanning at boot time?
[09:14] <obama> yeah, 8.10 should kick windows xp lol
[09:14] <sken> i installed 2 programs and i don't find them in the menu what's happening
[09:14] <Falcons_roost> Is their a Alarm clock in
[09:14] <sken> ?
[09:14] <blunder> tfo can you just test to see if it matches
[09:14] <_2> FliP50 epic
[09:14] <Falcons_roost> Gnome
[09:14] <Bodsda> sken, what programs?
[09:14]  * _2 rolls eyes
[09:14] <tfo> let me see
[09:15] <Sierra> sken: What programs?
[09:15] <blunder> if not you need to re-download
[09:15] <Falcons_roost> Is their a Alarm clock in Gome?
[09:15] <sken> googlerth
[09:15] <Bodsda> Falcons_roost, yes, i believe its a panel app
[09:15] <tfo> blunder, unfortunately it's not :(
[09:15] <tfo> I think it's the problme
[09:16] <blunder> without a doubt
[09:16] <definitely> Where can i find File Accosiations config in Gnome ?
[09:16] <kristof> since 8.10 the gimp toolbox is always on top, does anyone know how to solve this?
[09:16] <woody86> can anyone help me out. for some reason gnome won't connect to my wireless network anymore??
[09:16] <prabu> couldnt open the boot menu
[09:16] <tfo> but please see it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=730302
[09:16] <Sierra> sken: Try right clicking on the menu button on the bar and click "Edit Menus" and see if it's enabled, that *if* it actually has created a menu item. Some programs don't, and I'm unsure about GoogleEarth
[09:16] <tfo> what's your idea?
[09:17] <DistroJockey> definitely, /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[09:17] <definitely> DistroJockey: There was program with GUI for that wasn't it ?
[09:18] <prabu> sierra can u explain ? im new to ubuntu
[09:18] <DistroJockey> definitely, probably
[09:18] <definitely> DistroJockey: Do u know :) ?
[09:18] <DistroJockey> definitely, gconf2  ? (not sure)
[09:18] <Sierra> prabu: what do you want to change?
[09:19] <rodolfo_> guys, right now I'm running U8.10. There is nothing about my video card in the xorg.conf file. what should I do?
[09:19] <definitely> DistroJockey thnx :)
[09:19] <DistroJockey> definitely, nope, not that
[09:19] <prabu> i want to edit the boot menu . i have dual booting
[09:19] <sken> i didn't dinf any *if*
[09:19] <sken> sieraa explain
[09:19] <_2> FliP50 ?
[09:19] <prabu> ubuntu and vista
[09:19] <Quadrescence> dont click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjU5R7n_kKU
[09:19] <Fondor1> Hi all, question about a Logitech QuickCam STX in Intrepid. I found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918 detailing the issue, and Visko (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918/comments/33) was able to provide an apparent fix for me.  Unfortunately, I don't know how to run this fix when I run Skype through the apps menu, only through the command line.
[09:19] <DistroJockey> definitely, or is it?
[09:19] <definitely> DistroJockey: it is something with gconf anyway, will find
[09:19] <Bodsda> prabu, do you mean grub?
[09:19] <definitely> :)
[09:19] <francis__> how can I manage a ipod touch on ubuntu? There is a programe for manage it?
[09:19] <prabu> yes
[09:19] <Sierra> sken: I didn't mean that literally, it's possible that GoogleEarth didn't actually create a menu item
[09:19] <blunder> tfo can you just redownload the iso from maybe a different mirror?
[09:20] <DistroJockey> definitely, *nods* np :)
[09:20] <blunder> and then burn that on a new cdrom
[09:20] <Sierra> prabu: Did you manage to open the menu.lst file?
[09:20] <Bodsda> prabu, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:20] <Varka> how to boot into singleuser no-network runlevel?
[09:20] <sken> and what can i do?
[09:20] <sken> why? it wasn't created?
[09:20] <prabu> no . i typed that on terminal but its not coming
[09:21] <Bodsda> prabu, what exactly did you type?
[09:21] <prabu> ok . will try that
[09:21] <Sierra> sken: Maybe because it was programmed to create one by Google. Find out how to open the program from terminal/console and create your own menu item
[09:21] <Sierra> wasn't*
[09:21] <definitely> DistroJockey: gconf-editor :)
[09:21] <_2> Varka not sure there is a "no-network" runlevel.  but append the keyword "single" to the kernel line in grub    should already be a listing for "safe recovery" mode.
[09:22] <DistroJockey> definitely, :)
[09:22] <DigitalFiz> i have my power management set to never but my monitor still turns off why is this?
[09:22] <Varka> _2: thats the problem, recoverymode / single includes networking but my networkconfiguration causes a hang at boottime
[09:22] <Slart> DigitalFiz: might be a setting for your monitor, in hardware
[09:22] <maddox> anyone know how to enable wireless in 8.10?
[09:22] <sken> how can i open it? by the console?
[09:23] <Slart> DigitalFiz: or from the BIOS
[09:23] <_2> Varka i'm thinking that ubuntu starts up the network stuff in rcS.d/   which means there isn't a no-networking runlevel at all.
[09:23] <Bodsda> maddox, its enabled by default (i think)
[09:23] <Fondor1> Anything about the webcam issue?
[09:23] <Sierra> maddox: Is it a fresh install or an upgrade? Try check near your clock for the networking item and click it
[09:23] <maddox> mine is "disabled"
[09:23] <maddox> fresh install
[09:23] <DigitalFiz> Slart, nah it never did it in windows its something in ubuntu and it didnt start till 8.10RC i think
[09:23] <_2> Varka may require so special work-around
[09:23] <Sierra> I know my Network Manager was completely removed when I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10
[09:23] <Bodsda> maddox, right click on the icon and there should be a tick box, if there isnt then your wifi card may not be recognized
[09:24] <_2> Varka "does ya has" a live CD to work from ?
[09:24] <maddox> it recognizes my wireless card, but there is no tick box. it says "wireless disabled"
[09:24] <Varka> _2: cd yes, but cd/dvd-drive is broken :(
[09:24] <paul___> Hello, I am trying to copy a file into a folder but it says i dont have the permission to, is it possible to do this using sudo and a command in the terminal?
[09:24] <sken> sieraa?
[09:24] <_2> Varka ouch.
[09:24] <Sierra> maddox: If it's a laptop make sure the switch on the outside is turned "on" when you start Ubuntu
[09:24] <Slart> DigitalFiz: hmm.. sounds like an ubuntu problem alright.. a bit hard to diagnose why it's acting that way though
[09:25] <_2> Varka well you can boot with init=/bin/bash   and work from a shell if you know what you are doing.
[09:25] <prabu> sierra . it says error: no write permission for file " boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:25] <maddox> what switch on the outside?
[09:25] <DistroJockey> sken, what package did you install?
[09:25] <obama> can anybody help me with installing matrix screensaver in the background? i'd appreciate it
[09:25] <Varka> _2: hm, just put init=/bin/bash as a bootparameter into grubconfiguration you mean?
[09:25] <wers> how do I get the new wallpapers of gnome's latest release? see http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/
[09:26] <sken> Googlearth and i also don't find many software in synaptic manager
[09:26] <DigitalFiz> Slart, oh well its 4am here and i havent been to bed yet was hoping for a quick answer ill figure it out tomorrow ty
[09:26] <alanbshepard77> Why can't I burn DVDs with Ubuntu? I've tried to burn DVDs using ubuntu since Feisty and it's never worked. I would blame my computer but I tried it with many other computers that belonged to friends and family and it still didn't work. Now I'm using a sony laptop, with a sony drive and sony dvds and i still can't get it to work. How can I fix this? Everything works fine under windows.
[09:26] <Sierra> prabu: Ahh sorry, you need to run your text edit as "root". Go into terminal and type the following in (without quotes) "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:26] <HendriXXX> hoh
[09:26] <sken> will it be updated?
[09:26] <maddox> the wireless card is in the machine, the machine sees it, the card has two lights on it and they are both flashing
[09:26] <rodolfo_> guys, right now I'm running U8.10. There is nothing about my video card in the xorg.conf file. what should I do?
[09:26] <prabu> ok
[09:26] <_2> Varka note. that will prevent any of the local init scripts from running,  but it wont prevent the stuff in the initramfs.img from running.  you'll have to find out if that's the cause or the script are.
[09:26] <Bodsda>  Sierra gksudo for graohical apps :)
[09:26] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: that's normal
[09:26] <DistroJockey> sken, there is no package called Googleearth.  There is a package called  googleearth-package though
[09:26] <Bodsda> graphical*
[09:27] <PriceChild> wers: find them and save them somewhere, then rigbht click your desktop and choose the obious choice
[09:27] <Sierra> Damn it, sorry
[09:27] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: x.org does things automatically now. Well, if it can.
[09:27] <_2> Varka yes on the kernel line in the grub menu.
[09:27] <DistroJockey> sken, is that the one you mean?
[09:27] <sken> yup sorry
[09:27] <Varka> _2: i know the cause, its the /etc/network/interfaces, its misconfigured
[09:27] <wers> PriceChild, isnt there a package for it?
[09:27] <wers> i think, it should be in the repos
[09:27] <PriceChild> wers: I don't believe so.
[09:27] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete so why Xorg.conf file tells me nothing about which driver I'm using?
[09:27] <Sierra> Bodsa, I always find gksudo to actually act like su instead of sudo unless you manually specify
[09:27] <tfo> blunder, sorry I was testing it on another PC
[09:28] <maddox> so there's no way to enable wireless then?
[09:28] <blunder> any luck
[09:28] <PriceChild> wers: there might be, but it was probably heavily edited for ubunu.
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: because it detects the card and automatically loads the driver. xorg.conf is no longer required for most systems.
[09:28] <tfo> you are right it seems that I have to do it and redownload ISO
[09:28] <tfo> thanks mate
[09:28] <blunder> tfo no problem
[09:28] <DistroJockey> sken, that doens't make a shortcut as it's just the installer/configuration tool
[09:28] <prabu> sierra , it says " [sudo] password for prabakaran:
[09:28] <prabu>  "
[09:28] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete I see. And where can I get some output from X.org then...?
[09:28] <tfo> same error CRC error system halted
[09:28] <blunder> sorry about the coaster
[09:28] <tfo> no problem ;)
[09:28] <Bodsda> Sierra, dunno, i just use gksudo for graphical apps cause its recommended, i didnt think there was a difference in how they work just how the environment is set up
[09:28] <blunder> heh
[09:28] <tfo> I'll redownload it
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: /var/log/xorg.log.0   I think
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> or soemthing like that
[09:29] <blunder> good idea
[09:29] <PriceChild> !gksudo | Sierra Bodsda
[09:29] <tfo> hey do you know why ubuntu ship it doesn't work?
[09:29] <Sierra> prabu: Sorry I made a mistake, but you should be able to just type in your password for that user and press enter
[09:29] <sken> so what can i do distrokockey?
[09:29] <Varka> _2: ill try your advices, brb
[09:29] <christian> !es
[09:29] <blunder> tfo I though it still did
[09:29] <_2> Varka that should be easy to fix then.   boot with init=/bin/bash   you'll have to remount the rootfs in read/write mode.   mount -no remount,rw /    and do what needs done. then be sure to   mount -no remount,ro /    before you salute it.
[09:29] <Guest44808> 有没有说中文的
[09:29] <Guest44808> 呵 呵
[09:29] <tfo> aha
[09:29] <Bodsda> ty PriceChild bookmarked for rainy day reading :)
[09:29] <PriceChild> !ch | Guest44808
[09:29] <tfo> thanks mate
[09:29] <_2> i think that was too late.
[09:30] <tfo> bye
[09:30] <PriceChild> !cn | Guest44808
[09:30] <alanbshepard77> Why can't Ubuntu burn DVDs? I keep getting the error Unhandled Exception
[09:30] <maddox> I have googled the crap out of this question and still no answer on how to enable wireless in Ubuntu 8.10 or even 8.04
[09:30] <blunder> bye sir
[09:30] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, that file doesn't exist =/
[09:30] <Schalken> !/tmp
[09:30] <Schalken> !tmp
[09:30] <maddox> where do I go to get some help? the ubuntu forums are no help either.
[09:30] <PriceChild> maddox: please type lspci and lsusb into a termina,l, and pastebin the output.
[09:30] <DistroJockey> sken, as you can see the description and lack of instructions is not helpful
[09:31] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: you have no /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:31] <Schalken> Can I safely rm -rf /tmp/* ?
[09:31] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: look for similar files, it may have changed in intrepid
[09:31] <maddox> can't paste anything, it's my laptop and I am on my desktop
[09:31] <Sierra> Heh, according to that link it's just good habit. I don't think running gedit under sudo is going to cause that many problems, I've done it dozens of times for the same purpose prabu is using it for but I'll ensure to specify it in future
[09:31] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, hold up
[09:31] <joaopinto> Schalken, it is not recommended, there maybe running applications using file on it
[09:31] <sken> can anybody help me?
[09:31] <maddox> but it looks like the whole thing is screwed. my keyboard is all messed up now too
[09:31] <PriceChild> Schalken: that folder gets cleared every other reboot I believe, I wouldn't recommend it as it is probably in use.
[09:31] <joaopinto> Schalken, only old files should be deleted
[09:31] <sken> or can i uninstall the program
[09:31] <DistroJockey> sken, I guess this is the way to go:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#Installation
[09:31] <PriceChild> maddox: it would be really useful so that we can tell exactly what hardware you have.
[09:32] <fallore> I'm having sound issues. Sound in general will not work and when I try to play something in Rhythmbox it tells me "Couldn't stop playback | Unknown playback error." This happens very often, anyone have any idea how I can fix it? Rebooting would make the sound come back but I shouldn't have to do that every time this happens.
[09:32] <sken> thx distrojockey
[09:32] <DistroJockey> sken, but the package should be more helpful IMHO
[09:32] <baleofor> Who can help me configure my videocard, please PM me...
[09:32] <DistroJockey> sken, you're welcome
[09:32] <maddox> when I type "sudo" it shows on screen as "s4d6"
[09:32] <baleofor> It is big trouble
[09:32] <baleofor> ATI hd3470
[09:32] <Bodsda> fallore, type   'killall pulseaudio'   into a terminal then reload rhythmbox, does this help?
[09:32] <Slart> maddox: numlock
[09:33] <sken> IMHO explain please
[09:33] <Slart> maddox: you're using a laptop, right?
[09:33] <blunder> fallore, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[09:33] <Bodsda> maddox, unstick your fn key maybe
[09:33] <prabu> sierra , i couldnt type the password
[09:33] <VSpike> no-one can help me get a backtrace from my libsmbclient crash?
[09:33] <maddox> thank you
[09:33] <DistroJockey> sken, In My Honest Opinion
[09:33] <Schalken> PriceChild: joaopinto: I think your right, all the files were make about when I booted the machine. Thanks.
[09:33] <Sierra> prabu: try this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:33] <Schalken> were made*
[09:33] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, got it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65078/
[09:33] <sken> hehe ok
[09:33] <jianjun> Hello.
[09:33] <fallore> Bodsda: no
[09:33] <prabu> ok
[09:33] <axyjo> hi all, how would i upgrade using bittorrent?
[09:33] <fallore> blunder: will do
[09:33] <Sierra> maddox: Is the external switch for the wireless on, and was it on when you booted?
[09:33] <DistroJockey> sken, the googleearth-package should atleast tell you how to run it :)
[09:33] <Bodsda> fallore, desktop or laptop
[09:33] <baleofor> Please, comeone. help me with my ATI...
[09:34] <jim_p> !checkinstall
[09:34] <Rhengal> In Ubuntu 8.04 and the session manager I had 3 tabs "Startup"+"Current"+"Options" - Now in 8.10 I only got "Startup" + "Options" and the option to remember running programs from session to session does not appear to work, is there something wrong with my install somehow and a way to fix this?
[09:34] <baleofor> I'am gonna crazy with it
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: you're using the intel driver
[09:34] <DistroJockey> sken, but it doesn't :(
[09:34] <sken> ok dude thx
[09:34] <jim_p> baleofor: tell me!
[09:34] <DistroJockey> sken, np
[09:34] <f3tal3rr0r> me and abe3k are having probs my nvidia driver wont install on xen enabled kernel how do i work around this?
[09:34] <maddox> there is no external switch for the wireless card. but it's on. the lights are flashing. the problem is that wireless is "disabled" and I need to enable it.
[09:34] <jim_p> baleofor: are you on 8.10?
[09:34] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, yeah...running compiz-fusion almost ok
[09:35] <jim_p> maddox: what card is it?
[09:35] <fallore> Bodsda: desktop
[09:35] <Sierra> maddox: Are you dual booted with Windows by any chance?
[09:35] <maddox> dlink dwl-g630
[09:35] <sken> so how can i run googlearth
[09:35] <maddox> yes I am
[09:35] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, so you mean that the Xorg.conf file is useless from now on?
[09:35] <maddox> yes, dual-booted
[09:35] <PriceChild> jim_p: I have already asked him for the lsusb/lspci so we can lok at the chipset=.
[09:35] <Bodsda> fallore, whats the output of   'asoundconf list'        ?
[09:35] <unitedpotsmokers> hello.. now i already finish download interpid, and i burned it to cd, how to upgrade from hardy to interpid using this cd?>
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: not quite "useless". If you specify something in xorg.conf then it will override the automatic configuration.
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: but you don't *need* an xorg.conf any more if X seems to be working okay.
[09:36] <PriceChild> unitedpotsmokers: which disc did you burn?
[09:36] <Sierra> unitedpotsmokers, is it the "desktop" or "alternative"?
[09:36] <maddox> the chipset is ar2413
[09:36] <unitedpotsmokers> desktop
[09:36] <prabu> sierra , it worked . thank you very much
[09:36] <fallore> Bodsda: Names of available sound cards: Nvidia and U0x470x991
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:36] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, OK let me ask you just one more thing
[09:36] <Sierra> prabu: Careful what you play around with in menu.lst, save a backup
[09:36] <Bodsda> fallore, ok, do you know which one is your sound card?
[09:36] <ljuwaidah> hi
[09:36] <fallore> i'm just guessing nvidia
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Sierra: nice to see someone else with sense
[09:37] <PriceChild> maddox: and the interface isn't listed on ifconfig or iwconfig?
[09:37] <prabu> ok . thanks
[09:37] <unitedpotsmokers> can i using a desktop, to upgrade?
[09:37] <ljuwaidah> where do i find a repo that has alsa pulgins?
[09:37] <jianjun> Is there any body study linux kernel?
[09:37] <PriceChild>  maddox if not, try installing linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[09:37] <Sierra> unitedpotsmokers, if you want to upgrade from a disc download the "alternate" ISO
[09:37] <Bodsda> fallore, kk, type     asoundconf set-default-card Nvidia
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> jianjun: id head into #ubuntu-devel i think its called
[09:37] <jim_p> jianjun: body study? like anatomy?
[09:38] <heyuxiang> wtf
[09:38] <ronin13> i want to upgrade to 8.10. do i need to back-up my data?
[09:38] <Bodsda> jianjun, #ubuntu-devs maybe
[09:38] <joaopinto> ronin13, no
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> jim_p: you could say it has an anatomy
[09:38] <unitedpotsmokers> ok
[09:38] <ronin13> thnx
[09:38] <unitedpotsmokers> brb
[09:38] <Sierra> ronin13: YES, always backup your data when you do an upgrade
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ronin13: you should have a backup anyway
[09:38] <Bodsda> ronin13, not really but to be safe yes
[09:38] <ljuwaidah> can i find it here http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ?
[09:38] <PriceChild> maddox: I have the same card but haven't upgraded yet. It would be good to hear if that package fixes it for you.
[09:38] <jianjun> jim_p: I'm freshman of kernel
[09:38] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, I want my app icons to be at my desktop. So I have drag and dropped 'em there and it's OK. But I want those icons to be smaller, without resizing each one. I mean I want to specify the minimum size for all icons. is that possible?
[09:38] <jrib> ronin13: regardless of what comes before the question "do i need to back-up my data?", the answer is always you need to back up any data you care about
[09:38] <Sierra> when in doubt, try the live session first
[09:38] <Bodsda> wow, lots of different views on backups here
[09:38] <Slack> anyone know how i can update my video card drivers, (nvidia)
[09:39] <maddox> I will give it a shot
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> ronin13: no backup == data is not precious and disposable
[09:39] <Sierra> Slack: What video card?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> jrib: +1 there dude
[09:39] <Slack> Sierra: not sure whats the cmd to check that
[09:39] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: I think so, but I don't know how (I don't use desktop icons). Perhaps someone else here will know.
[09:39] <ljuwaidah> maddox: Are you the real maddox?
[09:39] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: it might be under System->Preferences->Appearance or something
[09:39] <maddox> "real maddox"?
[09:39] <Fondor1> lol
[09:39] <ljuwaidah> Yes
[09:40] <Fondor1> Guess not ;)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> jrib: plus theres no excuse as usb drives are so cheap
[09:40] <Sierra> ljuwaidah: lol, somehow I don't think so. Maddox is a CLI man
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !maddoc
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !maddox
[09:40] <ljuwaidah> http://maddox.xmission.com/
[09:40] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, I thought the same way as you just did but there is nothing related to icons nor icon size...
[09:41] <ditch64> hm
[09:41] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, I mean, there is but appearance just let me choose if I want text+icons on the menu options or not...
[09:41] <noob-africa> greetings everyone... i have one simple question
[09:41] <maddox> said "couldn't find package linux-backports-intrepid"
[09:41] <rodolfo_> appearance options*
[09:41] <maddox> ah, entered it wrong
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: ask away
[09:41] <ditch64> im so confused as to why it gets stuck on "scanning the mirror" and all you have to do is unplug your internet cable and plug it back in and it continues
[09:41] <PriceChild> !tab maddox
[09:41] <PriceChild> !tab | maddox
[09:42] <noob-africa> question: has anyone managed to install Yahoo Messenger for Linux on Ubuntu 8.04?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: thats gyache and pidgin that do yahoo
[09:42] <noob-africa> question: has anyone managed to install Yahoo Messenger for Linux on Ubuntu 8.04?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: you may have success with wine, i'd check the app db for wine
[09:42] <maddox> entered it correctly and it still said it couldn't find that package
[09:42] <zorglu_> q. how can i obtain the UUID of a usb disk ?
[09:43] <ditch64> noob-africa: just use pidgin
[09:43] <maverick340> hey guys . i want a alternate software for Visio
[09:43] <rww> ditch64: scanning the mirror takes a while because the mirror has lots and lots of people scanning it right now. it will eventually complete
[09:43] <Bodsda> maddox, tab completion is a wonderful thing
[09:43] <pthagonal1> I'm planning on doing a fresh desktop install of 8.10 and want to do software mirroring across a pair of SATA drives. To save me downloading the wrong iso, can anyone recommend normal/alternative/dvd as the one I should get?
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/desktop-icon-size-in-gnome-configurable-381182/
[09:43] <maddox> what is tab completion?
[09:43] <PriceChild> !info linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[09:43] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: well, i already use Pidgin... but there is a slight feature... you cant add MSN Messenger users IN your Yahoo Messenger account, and you cant add your Yahoo Contacts on your MSN Account
[09:43] <PriceChild> maddox: It is definitely there ^
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> rodolfo_: there is a solution halfway down that page. I haven't tried it myself but maybe it'll work for you.
[09:43] <rww> ditch64: if you pull the cable out, it notices that it doesn't have a network connection any more and stops trying
[09:43] <Bodsda> zorglu_, sudo blkid
[09:44] <fallore> Bodsda: something happened while i was reinstalling alsa drivers, rebooted, i'm back now
[09:44] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: I have a network problem here where I am, MSN Messenger account keeps going offline... Yahoo Messenger account is stable
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: thats because they use different protocol
[09:44] <Bodsda> maddox, type 'Bods' then hit tab
[09:44] <Bodsda> fallore, k
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/short-tip-get-uuid-of-hard-disks/
[09:44] <PriceChild> maddox: tab completion lets you type the first few letters, then press the tab key (left of Q) and it will complete the rest.
[09:44] <maddox> so I have to add a repository to get that package then? what repository?
[09:44] <fallore> Bodsda: my sound works after rebooting and rhythmbox is playing things just fine
[09:44] <zorglu_> Bodsda: ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:44] <fallore> Bodsda: which is normal
[09:44] <PriceChild> maddox: that should be in the default set of repositories.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: you could create a group and drag all your buddies to one group
[09:44] <ljuwaidah> Are all alsa plugins installed by default or something?
[09:44] <maddox> it's not
[09:44] <Bodsda> fallore, ok cool -- not sure what the prob was though, i think it was your default sound card
[09:44] <rodolfo_> SlimeyPete, ...?
[09:44] <heyuxiang> drop the damn fucking ubuntu .... come with me ,gentoo is waiting for you
[09:44] <Fondor1> question about a Logitech QuickCam STX in Intrepid. I found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918 detailing the issue, and Visko (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918/comments/33) was able to provide an apparent fix for me.  Unfortunately, I don't know how to run this fix when I run Skype through the apps menu, only through the command line.  Any idea how I can apply this to the m
[09:44] <Bodsda> zorglu_, your welcome
[09:45] <maddox> pri it's not
[09:45] <PriceChild> maddox: no it is, its in main.
[09:45] <VSpike> ActionParsnip: but yahoo messenger lets you add msn contacts.  they have some kind of bridge, I think
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> heyuxiang: i use both
[09:45] <maddox> no. it's not.
[09:45] <PriceChild> !info linux-backports-modules-intrepid | maddox
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> VSpike: thats a windows app
[09:45] <Bodsda> !ohmy | heyuxiang
[09:45] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: apparently there is a Yahoo Messenger 1.0.4 for Linux
[09:45] <PriceChild> maddox: that is in the default set of repositories.
[09:45] <VSpike> ActionParsnip: If his connection to MSN is not good, I can see why he'd want to use that feature
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: try that then
[09:45] <PriceChild> maddox: system > administration > software sources
[09:45] <maddox> ok. I typed it EXACTLY how you had it, and it didn't show up
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> VSpike: maybe bad settings
[09:45] <maddox> "couldn't find module"
[09:45] <PriceChild> maddox: check you have at least main on the first page.
[09:45] <fallore> Bodsda: well this happens pretty often to me with the exact same symptoms and solutions
[09:45] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: Well, in Windows (which is an ugly word in here...) you can interchangeable add users with either IM client
[09:46] <Sierra> Is anyone currently using Gnome in 8.10  who can quickly confirm a "Volume Control" bug?
[09:46] <maverick340> could someone please tell me a Visio alternate softwre
[09:46] <compton> what's the name of an identd server I can install with apt-get?
[09:46] <Bodsda> fallore, you may want to try and blacklist the other card
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: thats windows, completely seperate system
[09:46] <Fondor1> Try me Sierra.
[09:46] <maddox> they were all enabled
[09:46] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: I know
[09:46] <PriceChild> maddox: close that, and sudo apt-get update
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: im sure theres a billion things yuo can do in linux you cant do in windows
[09:46] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: LOL
[09:46] <fallore> Bodsda: any advice on doing that?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: just because something happens in windows doesnt automatically make it possible in linux
[09:47] <Sierra> Fondor1: Open up Volume control and change any of the mute settings on a Capture Source (Under the Recording tab, you might need to go to preferences and add some) then close the application, and reopen it and see if the mute setting were saved
[09:47] <ljuwaidah> brb
[09:47] <Mahrellon> G'morning ya'll! How's the love in this channel today? :)
[09:47] <Bodsda> fallore, i cant remember atm but gimme a minute to google it
[09:47] <fallore> thanks a ton, Bodsda
[09:47] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: NOW you tell me.... LOL
[09:47]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[09:48] <VSpike> noob-africa: have you tried to install the yahoo client for linux?
[09:48] <Mahrellon> I have a tip for those who might have problems with nvidia-settings not being able to save (segment error). Run sudo nvidia-xconfig first and then you'll be able to run nvidia-settings
[09:48]  * noob-africa shrugs too
[09:48] <maddox> looks like it's going to let me download that now
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: thats why i hate peoplesaying.."my <blah hardware> works in windows but not uuntu, can anyone help
[09:48] <Fondor1> Sierra: They do indeed appear to be staying.
[09:49] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: lol
[09:49] <Sierra> Fondor1: Are you using ALSA?
[09:49] <maddox> mad looks like it's going to let me download that now
[09:49] <Fondor1> Sierra: I have an Audigy2 Platinum, and yes.
[09:49] <maddox> still don't understand what the tab button is supposed to do
[09:49] <Sierra> Fondor1: That's weird, I have two systems here where the mute settings aren't sticking
[09:50] <Fondor1> Sierra:  Is it just the mute, or the level as well?
[09:50] <Sierra> Fondor1: Nope, just the mute settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volume.app/+bug/291458
[09:50] <Mahrellon> ActionParsnip: I totally agree with you about the working in Windows thing. It's annoying and irellevant :)
[09:50] <pthagonal1> Sorry to repeat myself- will give this one more go: I'm planning on doing a fresh desktop install of 8.10 and want to do software mirroring across a pair of SATA drives. To save me downloading the wrong iso, can anyone recommend normal/alternative/dvd as the one I should get?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Mahrellon: i seriously have to count to 10
[09:51] <Mahrellon> ActioParsnip: lol same here m8, same here. :)
[09:51] <Bodsda> fallore, im not sure if this is still relevent cause i think it was for 8.04 or maybe 7.10 but here you go -- look at post 2 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/default-sound-card-in-ubuntu-564006/
[09:51] <VSpike> ActionParsnip: why do you hate that? I don't get it. It may just be that the most helpful answer is that it's not linux compatible, or they may have found a bug, or they may need a patch... why is it a bad question?
[09:51] <fallore> i'm running 8.04, Bodsda
[09:51] <jim_p> pthagonal1: the default alternative cd for i386 if you are not on 64bit is fine
[09:51] <Bodsda> fallore, should work fine then
[09:51] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: I just downloaded Yahoo Messenger 1.0.4 (and tried installing it with the Debian installer)
[09:51] <LimCore> hi
[09:51] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: this is the error I got
[09:51] <LimCore> I take time to pirate a video and then it has trouble playing
[09:51] <Fondor1> Sierra: Ah, it's a live session, interesting.
[09:51] <LimCore> how to resove this issue, sound is sort of "jumping"
[09:52] <krish> while installing ubuntu server iam nt able to write the partitions to the disk
[09:52] <bazhang> !piracy > LimCore
[09:52] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: Package: ymessenger
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> VSpike: its a completely different operating system with different quirks so the fact it works elsewhere is fairly redundant to me. We can probe and poke the hardware to see if its working ok. I dont need any other OS to tell me its operational
[09:52] <Sierra> Fondor1: Only one of them is
[09:52] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: your nick reminds me of super mario bros 2 :)
[09:52] <maddox> ok, I installed those modules and wireless is still disabled
[09:52] <PriceChild> noob-africa: pretty sure that is *years* old, not actively maintained, missing features and that you'd be best off using pidgin in Ubunt.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: its a harry hill joke :D
[09:52] <krish>  while installing ubuntu server iam nt able to write the partitions to the disk
[09:52] <pthagonal1> jim_p: I was thinking of 64 bit as the box has 4GB, but could do 32bit if I have to. what would you recommend for 64bit?
[09:52] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: Status: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib 1.2
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> pthagonal1: id go 64bit for 4gb ram
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: install the dependancy
[09:53] <b33r> hey I used unetbootin to make a bootable usb disk with 8.10, doesn't it suppose to show a new entry in grub ?
[09:53] <Fondor1> Sierra:  Well unfortunately I can't confirm :(  I'm not sure what the issue would be in your case, my apologies!
[09:53] <LimCore> I have this fully legal movie my friend made, it is .rmvb: RealMedia file, but it has trouble playing, the sound is s-t-r-a-n-g-e-l-l-y modulated in some players, and it pauses half the  time in others. Any idea how to fix?
[09:53] <jim_p> pthagonal1: ubuntu alternative 64bit installation iso. are you that good to download the server and isntall packages on your own?
[09:53] <co88dy> l
[09:53] <pthagonal1> ActionParsnip: yes, may as well use that last 0.5GB !
[09:53] <VSpike> ActionParsnip: a lot of questions probably contain irrelevant information.  It's good practice for the questions to include all relevant info - they may or may not know what is relevant or not in advance.  Besides, it tells you that the hardware is probably not faulty and rules out things like connectors/power
[09:53] <PriceChild> ActionParsnip: probably not installable as its old software
[09:53] <Sierra> Fondor1: no problems, it just means that it's probably limited to hardware. Both are using integrated audio
[09:53] <francis__> how can I manage a ipod touch on ubuntu? There is a programe for manage it?
[09:53] <Boohbah> b33r: if you are booting from usb then you aren't booting from HD are you?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> pthagonal1: its an extra 15% RAM
[09:54] <jrib> francis__: what version are you running?
[09:54] <jim_p> francis__: gtkpod or some amarok script
[09:54] <Sierra> Fondor1: Could you add a comment to that bug about your results?
[09:54] <maddox> so there's no way to enable wireless then?
[09:54] <Fondor1> Absolutely.
[09:54] <b33r> Bogaurd, I tried from USB and HD when I try from USB it gives me boot error
[09:54] <b33r> Boohbah*
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> maddox: get on a wired connection til you get on youor feet
[09:54] <pthagonal1> jimp: sure, might go with server.  Yeah, I run servers- mostly centos atm, but starting to explore ubuntu as well
[09:54] <ay^> francis__: there is a prgram called gtkpod, don't know if it handles touches yet tho
[09:54] <frenzis> jrib, the firmware is 2.0.1
[09:55] <je_lole_si_je_ve> Hi there. I have a mackbook and Ubuntu 8.10 :) can anybody help me configure one-finger tap mousepad ? thx
[09:55] <DexTroR> hello?
[09:55] <maddox> I don't see the point in using a wired connection for my laptop. I am trying to enable the wireless so I don't have to use a wired connection.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> je_lole_si_je_ve: which macbook model is it?
[09:55] <krish>  while installing ubuntu server iam nt able to write the partitions to the disk
[09:56] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: I am going to pastebin the results I got after running sudo apt-get install libglib1.2
[09:56] <bazhang> maddox, what chipset
[09:56] <co88dy> Is there a way to restore ubuntu to the state right after it was installed?
[09:56] <jrib> frenzis: I believe the hashing algorithm for iTunesDB in firmware >2 has yet to be broken, so you won't be able to sync even if you jailbreak.  You can still jailbreak and ssh into it if you want though
[09:56] <je_lole_si_je_ve> hi ActionParsnip it's a fairly new one (bought it new in July 2008)
[09:56] <maddox> atheros
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> je_lole_si_je_ve: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[09:56] <Boohbah> co88dy: reinstall it
[09:56] <bazhang> maddox, which notebook
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> je_lole_si_je_ve: a model would be useful, that may help
[09:56] <co88dy> thats what I thought
[09:56] <Sierra> maddox: I know this doesn't help but I've had lots of problems with Dlink wireless and linux in general. I'm assuming it's not integrated into your laptop. Does your laptop have integrated wireless?
[09:56] <Sierra> wireless with linux*
[09:56] <frenzis> I'd just jailbreakked the ipod touch
 Can anyone help me out? I used to be able to connect fine in Gnome, but after I installed KDE, I can't connect to my n
[09:56] <Boohbah> co88dy: after the next reinstall you can take a backup image of your install and store it
[09:56] <PriceChild> maddox: did you manage to install that package?
[09:56] <maddox> yes, it has integrated wireless, but that doesn't work either
[09:57] <co88dy> MAddox what is your exact chipset?
[09:57] <maddox> yes, I installed the package. no change
[09:57] <co88dy> sorry just got in
[09:57] <maddox> atheros ar2413
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> maddox: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[09:57] <maddox> no
[09:57] <paul68> maddox:  check this http://hamzakc.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/atheros-wireless-setup-ubuntu/
[09:57] <Sierra> ActionParsnip: ndiswrapper crashes with dlink drivers
[09:57] <je_lole_si_je_ve> the problem ActionParsnip is just with one-finger tap... I did configure a file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy... everything works great, but the one-finger tap :|
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> maddox: go for it dude
[09:58] <bazhang> !info ndisgtk
[09:58] <co88dy> maddox - I have an atheros chipset I am running on wireless right now had to use NDSWRAPPER
[09:58] <paul68> ActionParsnip: its madwifi he needs
[09:58] <jrib> frenzis: I suppose you always have the option of running windows in a virtual machine and syncing with itunes there
[09:58] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m798e0324
[09:58] <ljuwaidah> back
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> je_lole_si_je_ve: if you can give me which model macbook it is i can webseacrh better
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> maddox: can you get a wired connection
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> maddox: just til you get sorted?
[09:58] <ljuwaidah> where do i find packages of alsa plugins?
[09:58] <cagara> hey i just installed ubuntu studio but I am missing the kernel sources ... how can i get them with aptitude
[09:59] <maddox> *sigh* used ndiswrapper before and it's a pain in the rear. I wish they'd just start supporting wireless out of the box. this is ridiculous.
[09:59] <andreaja_> hello, after upgrading to intrepid my emacs-snapshot-gtk fonts are way too big, what caused this change and how do I fix it?
[09:59] <bazhang> maddox, which notebook
[09:59] <maddox> notebook doesn't matter
[09:59] <maddox> it's an external card
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> maddox: there are too many variants, the drivers would be massive
[09:59] <maddox> well, then linux is never going to be viable then
[09:59] <frenzis> jrib...I still considerate the ipothesis valide to use wine and itunes
[09:59] <PriceChild> maddox: all reports I'm reading say that the card is detected, just problems with wpa. You're the first I've seen where it isn't deteected at all.
[09:59]  * coastermaster is tempted to go install Ubuntu on his Macbook
[10:00] <_2> ActionParsnip the kernel already is massive
[10:00] <reqqit> andreaja_, (font . "-*-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-22-normal-r-*-*-22-42-*-*-c-*-*-#204-")
[10:00] <maddox> the card is detected
[10:00] <bazhang> maddox, usb or pcmcia
[10:00] <paul68> maddox: use the link I send you earlier
[10:00] <maddox> pcmcia
[10:00] <reqqit> That is what I have, you can set it to a different point size in your .emacs
[10:00] <PriceChild> maddox: I thought you said it wasn't in iwconfig or ifconfig?
[10:00] <je_lole_si_je_ve> I guess it's a macbook core 2 duo 13'' (white) ActionParsnip :)
[10:00] <ljuwaidah> ok, forget about the alsa plugins for now, how do i configure the desktop effects?
[10:00] <maddox> no, I said it was
[10:00] <Tulimaq> maddox, its back to windows for u then ,,,
[10:00] <bazhang> maddox, are you hot-plugging or starting up with it in
[10:00] <andreaja_> reqqit: that fails, font isn't a function?
[10:00] <maddox> starting with it in
[10:00] <PriceChild> maddox: but i said earlier "if it isn't, try installing this package"... *sighs*
[10:00] <maddox> windows is for retards
[10:00] <PriceChild> maddox: language please
[10:01] <co88dy> maddox: have you tried madwifi?
[10:01] <maddox> windows is for plebes then
[10:01] <maddox> not yet
[10:01] <paul68> maddox: you need to install madwifi for this card
[10:01] <jrib> frenzis: sure you can try that too.  Check appdb.winehq.org to see how well itunes works
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> _2: the drivers for the array of atheros, intel, broadcom would be huge, the kernel size for what it provides is very small
[10:01] <paul68> !madwifi |maddox
[10:01] <backlash> if i upgrade to 8.10, does that mean i gotta download OO.o 3 and install it again?
[10:01] <bazhang> that card definitely works in ubuntu
[10:01] <frenzis> jrib: just done
[10:01] <jrib> frenzis: it works ok?
[10:01] <SlimeyPete> bazhang: shouldn't think so
[10:01] <Boohbah> backlash: you shouldn't lose any packages
[10:02] <Fondor1> Question about a Logitech QuickCam STX in Intrepid. I found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918 detailing the issue, and Visko (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918/comments/33) was able to provide an apparent fix for me.  Unfortunately, I don't know how to run this fix when I run Skype through the apps menu, only through the command line.  Any idea how I can apply this to the m
[10:02] <frenzis> on 8.10 itunes version 8.0 is silver
[10:02] <_2> ActionParsnip kernel is 80m installed.  and it's almost all drivers.
[10:02] <SlimeyPete> bazhang: as long as the OO package you used doesn't conflict with any of the intrepid packages
[10:02] <reqqit> andreaja_, yeah, it needs to by inside the other hell of LISP madness.
[10:02] <PriceChild> bazhang: there seem to be issues with atheros though, see planet.
[10:02] <bazhang> SlimeyPete, you got me confused with someone else
[10:02] <andreaja_> reqqit: thanks, that tells me nothing :)
[10:02] <reqqit> look for (setq default-frame-alist
[10:02] <reqqit> or look for font in your .emacs
[10:02] <fifi> fuck, i've thought it about barby-girl channel... fuck, what R U duin' guys here?
[10:02] <bazhang> PriceChild, right, thanks
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> maddox: windows has its place
[10:03] <Simon__> Hi all can someone tell me how i can move things from one account to another on Ubuntu?
[10:03] <SlimeyPete> bazhang: so I did, sorry
[10:03] <bazhang> fifi no cursing
[10:03] <reqqit> andreaja_, I accidentally the whole thing in a pm
[10:03] <reqqit>       '((left . 50)
[10:03] <reqqit> 	(width . 110)
[10:03] <reqqit> 	(top . 10)
[10:03] <reqqit> 	(height . 40)
[10:03] <FloodBot3> reqqit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:03] <reqqit> 	(cursor-color . "black")
[10:03] <reqqit> 	(foreground-color . "black")
[10:03] <andreaja_> reqqit: pastebin?
[10:03] <jrib> frenzis: looks like "syncing with ipod" is one thing that does not work with 8 though
[10:03] <bazhang> reqqit, use paste.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Simon__: sudo cp it across, you may need to chown or chmod to grant access
[10:03] <sabel4th> After upgrading to 8.10, my Netgear WG311T wireless card stops working, and I can't seem to find network config on that desktop.
[10:03] <andreaja_> that said, I'd really rather not use elisp to set this
[10:03] <sabel4th> It uses Madwifi, for reference.
[10:03] <andreaja_> since I haven't changed my emacs config, it looks to me like it's an x/gtk thing
[10:04] <SlimeyPete> sabel4th: I had to reboot once more before my networking would work
[10:04] <SlimeyPete> which is... odd
[10:04] <reqqit> andreaja_, you have used emacs right?
[10:04] <Simon__> Ok thanks ActionParsnip :)
[10:04] <PriceChild> reqqit: they couldn't read you before
[10:04] <maddox> yeah, windows has it's place. and that place is on the desktops of people who don't care about performance or efficiency.
[10:04] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: were you able to make sense of it?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> cagara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[10:04] <andreaja_> reqqit: yes...
[10:04] <Simon__> How to change nickname?
[10:04] <qiyou> how are you
[10:04] <sabel4th> Does the same apply for the new set of Nvidia drivers it installed (stupid loss of 3d acceleration, not that I was using it.)?
[10:04] <chovy_> how difficult is it to make an install pkg?
[10:05] <bazhang> Simon__, /nick newnickname
[10:05] <_2> Simon__ /nick blah
[10:05] <sabel4th> It seemed to kick me back down to VESA.
[10:05] <nayfly> Hey guys. Is there a gui which will allow me to mount/automount partitions in ubuntu?
[10:05] <Simon__> Ok thnaks
[10:05] <PriceChild> chovy_: very. /msg ubotu motu
[10:05] <iDesperado> ...wow so quick..
[10:05] <PriceChild> iDesperado: even quicker with random comments!
[10:05] <qiyou> 好阿
[10:05] <PriceChild> !cn | qiyou
[10:05] <chovy_> huh?
[10:05] <iDesperado> PriceChild: wow...
[10:05] <jrib> chovy_: I wouldn't say very difficult necessarily.  Depends on your background.  If you don't mind reading, it's not hard
[10:05] <bazhang> qiyou, /j #ubuntu-cn
[10:05] <jrib> !packaging > chovy_
[10:05] <qiyou> 我是新手
[10:06] <PriceChild> jrib: reading again and again and again the same thing until it sinks in the 10th time :(
[10:06] <bazhang> qiyou, english here
[10:06] <iDesperado> so much traffic...
[10:06] <favro> !cn | qiyou
[10:06] <ljuwaidah> later
[10:06] <shad0w0fsin> anyone know why its harder to configure a static ip in ibex?
[10:07] <chovy_> thanks
[10:07] <htrejh> hi
[10:07] <ikonia> shad0w0fsin in what way harder
[10:07] <DJ> can i update from 8.04 to 8.10rc    ???????
[10:07] <htrejh> someone knows where i can find wine 1.1.7 deb package?
[10:07] <ikonia> DJ: stable is better
[10:07] <bazhang> dj to final yes
[10:07] <jrib> DJ: you can update from 8.04 to 8.10
[10:07] <shad0w0fsin> ikonia: i had to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <jrib> !upgrading > DJ
[10:07] <ikonia> shad0w0fsin: how is that harder than 8.04 ?
[10:07] <taomaster> hello 2 all - i have the rc that i installed the other day,should i just do the updaye or i install a fresh copy?
[10:07] <gabbler> hi can anyone help me with an xorg.conf problem please
[10:07] <Simon1245> Can someone tell me how to move files from a account to another?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> taomaster: id try an upgrade, if its no good, clean install
[10:08] <bazhang> taomaster, either way, update/upgrade is easier
[10:08] <ikonia> Simon1245: what files
[10:08] <_2> shad0w0fsin ?   gksudo editor /etc/network/interfaces    harder ?
[10:08] <taomaster> ok thanks
[10:08] <Simon1245> I have files i want to move to another account
[10:08] <jrib> shad0w0fsin: why? just use system -> preferences -> network configuration
[10:08] <Simon1245> It's a Directory
[10:08] <ikonia> Simon1245: from where to where
[10:08] <Simon1245> From simon1245 To simon account
[10:08] <qiyou> 呵呵
[10:08] <bazhang> qiyou, not here
[10:08] <Simon1245> On the same computer
[10:08] <bazhang> qiyou, use english, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <ikonia> Simon1245: ok so copy or "move" them from the ghome directory of simon1245 to the home diretory of  simon
[10:09] <nayfly> can anybody suggest a hard drive mounting GUI for ubuntu?
[10:09] <nayfly> preferably which allows auto-mount
[10:09] <ikonia> Simon1245: then change the permissions so the owner is simon, not simon1245
[10:09] <shad0w0fsin> oh nvm I didn't explore the network configuration gui enough, seems like its not harder
[10:09] <Simon1245> How?
[10:09] <ikonia> Simon1245: open nautlius, - its the file manager and move them like you would in windows explorer
[10:09] <Simon1245> Do i need to download it?
[10:09] <ikonia> Simon1245 no, it's the file manager in ubuntu
[10:10] <shad0w0fsin> I still had to edit /etc/resolve.conf to get my internet working though (didn't need to in hardy)
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> nayfly: if its an internal drive it will automount
[10:10] <Simon1245> Ok
[10:10] <_2> Simon1245 sudo cp -a /path1 /path2 /target ;sudo chown -R username /target
[10:10] <jim_p> has anyone used auto-apt and got it to work?
[10:10] <ikonia> Simon1245: nautilus, it's the core product of the gnome desktop
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> nayfly: you can add lines to /etc/fstab and it will automount at boot
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | nayfly
[10:10] <Simon1245> Ok
[10:10] <chovy_> is a debian package the best way to deploy a development environment? (for example, our devs need pkg-a, b, c, etc...).
[10:10] <Simon1245> I will try to find it
[10:10] <nayfly> thanks guys!
[10:10] <ikonia> chovy_ the packages are in the repo's so apt-get or the package manager is the best way to deploy packages
[10:11] <Sierra> What was the command again to list your audio devices?
[10:11] <Sierra> Starts with an "L" i think
[10:11] <jim_p> Sierra: lspci | grep Audio
[10:11] <chovy_> ikonia: yeah. i want it really simple to get a new hire onboard: apt-get install our-stuff
[10:11] <Simon1245> Ikonia i can't find it
[10:11] <_2> Sierra cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:11] <Sierra> jim_p: Yup thank you
[10:11] <kholerabbi> I tried burning the 8.10 cd image to a dvd - which seemed to work, but the livecd didn't get to the login screen... I checked the disk for faults.. which it has....... would this have been because of the cd image to a dvd...  or something else??
[10:12] <ikonia> Simon1245: open it fromt he places menu
[10:12] <Sierra> _2: lspci was what I needed, but thank you
[10:12] <_2> Sierra or  aplay -l
[10:12] <ikonia> Simon1245: just click on a hardisk/mount point it will open nautilus
[10:12] <bazhang> kholerabbi, md5 the iso and do disk integrity check after burning very slow
[10:12] <bazhang> !md5 | kholerabbi
[10:12] <Simon1245> Ok
[10:12] <ktemkin> Hey, has anyone else had trouble with the volume monitor in the new gnome-applets?
[10:12] <andreaja_> reqqit: using .Xresources and 'Emacs.font: Monospace-8' sorted me
[10:13] <Sierra> ktemkin: Has it anything to do with muting?
[10:13] <maddox> ok, so I installed madwifi just like that page told me to. now, how do I enable wireless?
[10:13] <ktemkin> No, muting seems to work fine.
[10:13] <ktemkin> Mine seems to be keyboard-related, I think.
[10:13] <ktemkin> It's as if I hold down the volume up/down buttons each time I press them, and they're never released...
[10:13] <reqqit> andreaja_, Set it to Bitstream Vera Sans mono and have fund
[10:13] <reqqit> *fun
[10:14] <ktemkin> I have to switch to one of the virtual terminals and back in order to regain control of my keyboard
[10:14] <shad0w0fsin> my network manager panel icon disappeared in ibex, anyone have any ideas?
[10:14] <kholerabbi> yeah... I'll thanks bazhang I'll give it a go... I downloaded using a torrent though, which should have checked it... I'll do the md5 anyway. And definitely go for slowest burning next time
[10:14] <ktemkin> it only seems to happen with the X86VolumeUp/X86VolumeDown keyboard assignments
[10:14] <Sierra> shad0w0fsin: I had the same problem did you just upgrade?
[10:14] <definitely> stop using my nick :DD
[10:14] <b33r> can I burn an ubuntu cd image on a dvd instead of a cd?
[10:14] <bazhang> b33r, sure
[10:14] <shad0w0fsin> i didn't upgrade, i clean installed but I used my old home partition
[10:14] <Simon1245> Ikonia i pressed Computer-->Filesystem --> Home --> Simon and then i try to move the files i have on simon1245 to simon but it don't work?
[10:14] <b33r> k thanks
[10:14] <definitely> b33r i am always doing that ;]
[10:15] <Simon1245> What should i do?
[10:15] <rconan> Anyone know why my window title bars are very glitchy? They come and go as my mouse moves over them.
[10:15] <shad0w0fsin> Sierra: did you manage to fix it?
[10:15] <andreaja_> reqqit: that's pretty ugly, I prefer the default monospace font
[10:15] <b33r> I gave up on the usb method not working for me didn't know you can burn on a dvd disc though
[10:15] <Sierra> shad0w0fsin: I fixed it by recreating the launcher again and adding it as a startup program in sessiosn, the command is "nm-applet"
[10:15] <Ohmu> How can I find out what my usb modem is registered as?  I know its /dev/ttyACM0, but whats the command to find that out?
[10:15] <maddox> does anyone know how to enable wireless?
[10:15] <Sierra> shad0w0fsin: however mine was an upgrade problem
[10:15] <shad0w0fsin> ty I'll try that
[10:15] <reqqit> andreaja_, Lucida Console?
[10:16] <_2> Ohmu wvdialconf should find it
[10:16] <chovy_> lspci ?
[10:17] <andreaja_> reqqit: too big and doesn't accept font size (from what I can tell)
[10:17] <maddox> there's no way to enable wireless then?
[10:17] <nayfly> hey, I've just finished installing the latest ATI drivers on my ubuntu box and just after I login, it goes to a grey screen and I can only see my mouse. Is there a way to roll back th changes? Uninstall the drivers?
[10:17] <jrib> !wifi > maddox
[10:17] <maddox> I've already been there
[10:18] <kholerabbi> definitely: soz mate :P
[10:18] <lclimber> i am having aprobllem upgrading it hangs on setting up consolefonts and keymaps,any ideas?
[10:18] <jrib> maddox: well your question should have a lot more details then.  Like what exactly you tried from there that did not work and how it did not work
[10:18] <nayfly> I used Envy to install the drivers..
[10:18] <_2> nayfly safe vidio mode ?  use vesa as your driver ?
[10:18] <ikonia> nayfly: thats not the best plan
[10:18] <definitely> kholerabbi: Just kidding xD i choosen wrong nick lol :D
[10:18] <jynxzero_> Hi... has anyone done un upgrade from Heron -> Ibex, on a box with LILO+LVM ?
[10:18] <bazhang> nayfly, envy or envyng
[10:18] <_2> !envy > nayfly
[10:18] <jynxzero_> I'm a bit scared because past kernel upgrades have left my box unbootable.
[10:18] <bazhang> nayfly, which version of ubuntu
[10:19] <jynxzero_> And I can't use GRUB due to a BIOS bug
[10:19] <ikonia> jynxzero_: if the update of lilo works you should have no problems
[10:19] <MaXXXX> Hi all
[10:19] <idimmu> HI MAXXXX
[10:19] <maddox> I've tried everything you guys have said. my card is in, there's no switch, the lights on the card are on, Ubuntu sees the card, the card is supported, madwifi is installed. all I need to know is how to enable wireless
[10:19] <Sierra> I hate envy, never works properly for me. I found it easier to just install the NVIDIA sh file for myself
[10:19] <nayfly> bazhang: the latest
[10:19] <ikonia> maddox: what ahve you tried to enable wirless ?
[10:19] <_2> jynxzero_ lilo ?
[10:19] <ikonia> !madwifi >ikonia
[10:20] <Ohmu> I tried lsusb, but it just shows numbers and lsusb -v shows everything but what I need.
[10:20] <bazhang> nayfly, should not need it at this point, which exact card model and number
[10:20] <jynxzero_> ikonia: Sadly, that's not my experience.  :(
[10:20] <mikebeecham> is there a good remote desktop client in Linux?  I used to use Remote desktop in Windows
[10:20] <maddox> that's what I am asking. HOW DO YOU ENABLE WIRELESS?
[10:20] <jrib> maddox: system -> preferences -> network configuration
[10:20] <bazhang> maddox, no need for caps
[10:20] <paul68> !caps
[10:20] <nayfly> _2: how do I boot into safe mode?
[10:20] <MaXXXX> I get this error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)" when installing updates... googled and tried everything... nothing worked :(
[10:20] <Sierra> lol, even the bot doesn't like it
[10:20] <bazhang> maddox, give us the exact error message you have gotten and what steps you have taken
[10:20] <maddox> there is no error message
[10:20] <paul68> ikonia: already explained that he has to install madwifi
[10:20] <SlimeyPete> maddox: normally network-manager will pick it up automatically if it's working.
[10:20] <maddox> I
[10:21] <maddox> installed
[10:21] <maddox> madwifi
[10:21] <idimmu> what does ifconfig say?
[10:21] <_2> jynxzero_ i have to use lilo here, grub can't boot without a partition.  liloworks fine.
[10:21] <bazhang> maddox, how many entries in ifconfig
[10:21] <_2> nayfly should be a boot menu option
[10:21] <Simon1245> I tried to change my Mouse sensitve yesterday and now i can't change it back now it's to slow
[10:21] <joaopinto> bazhang, pastebin the result of ifconfig -a
[10:21] <joaopinto> ops, was for maddox  :P
[10:21] <jynxzero_> _2: Did you upgrade from Heron to Ibex?  It's just that, I suspect this combo is not well tested.
[10:21] <bazhang> joaopinto, not me :)
[10:21] <maddox> eth0, eth1, lo, wlano, wmaster0
[10:22] <SlimeyPete> maddox: you on intrepid, or hardy? In hardy (and older) network-manager disables itself if you have entries in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:22] <bazhang> maddox, and is the wifi hotspot open or not
[10:22] <ay^> If I want auto swapon at boot, do I need to edit both fstab and mtab or just one of them?
[10:22] <maddox> intrepid
[10:22] <Nallep> where are media properties stored in gnome? I riht clicked a usb drive and went to change the mount point in Volume-settings to be /mount/backup , but then it said it couldn't have / in it and I can't access the drive now, or get back to the settings.
[10:22] <maddox> wifi hotspot is up
[10:22] <murlidhar> err how to upgrade using alternate disk ?
[10:22] <jrib> ay^: just fstab
[10:22] <_2> jynxzero_ no i didn't upgrade.  but lilo should work reguardless of version
[10:22] <Kartagis> i try editing a file in gedit
[10:22] <bazhang> maddox, not my question
[10:22] <ay^> jrib: thanks
[10:22] <maddox> it's open
[10:22] <Sierra> murlidhar: Just insert the disc whilst in your windows manager, it should popup asking if you want to upgrade
[10:22] <_2> jynxzero_ you can   sudo lilo   to test the configurateion.
[10:22] <murlidhar> Sierra: it's not asking
[10:22] <paul68> maddox when you click on your network icon do you see the hotspot in your list of choices
[10:23] <bazhang> maddox, what does iwconfig show, please paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <Sierra> murlidhar: Ahh ok, let me get a link for you
[10:23] <murlidhar> !upgrade
[10:23] <maddox> there is no list of choices because wireless is disabled
[10:23] <maddox> I can't paste, it's on my laptop
[10:23] <jynxzero_> _2: Last time I did a kernel upgrade, that claimed to work but left my box totally f*cked.
[10:23] <Kartagis> i try editing a file in gedit, when i hit ctrl+s to save it, it displays a line number. what is that line? error line?
[10:23] <bazhang> maddox, we need that info
[10:23] <MaXXXX> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 27658 package `fontconfig-config':
[10:23] <MaXXXX>  value for `conffiles' has malformatted line `/etc'
[10:23] <MaXXXX> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[10:23] <MaXXXX> ... googled and tried everything... nothing worked :(
[10:23] <FloodBot3> MaXXXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <murlidhar> Kartagis: where does it display ?
[10:24] <maddox> what info do you want?
[10:24] <krish> is it wise to upgrade to ubuntu 8.10?
[10:24] <bazhang> maddox, put in an ethernet cable until we get this going
[10:24] <favro> Kartagis: which file was it?
[10:24] <ikonia> krish: it's the current stable release
[10:24] <Lokian> i just made the 8.10 upgrade
[10:24] <bazhang> krish, depends on you
[10:24] <onexused> I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10.  Some packages I don't want removed: ie, xscreensaver, are being removed.  This happened when I upgraded to 8.04, too.  How can I tell it I definitely want to keep these packages?
[10:24] <Lokian> its lovely
[10:24] <paul68> maddox I had the same type of message yesterday when upgrading when I selected the network icon I could see my hotspot
[10:24] <Sierra> murlidhar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[10:24] <maddox> ok, ethernet cable in
[10:24] <Kartagis> murlidhar, right below the filename
[10:24] <_2> jynxzero_ one question, did it load the kernel and dump you into a busybox shell?   or did it just say Li LI LI Li Li Li .....
[10:24] <jrib> MaXXXX: pastebin that line and about +/-20 lines around it
[10:24] <paul68> just needed to select it and enter my password
[10:24] <Kartagis> favro, a PHP file
[10:24] <bazhang> maddox, please paste.ubuntu.com the output of iwconfig
[10:25] <paul68> maddox: what do you see in your restricted drivers
[10:25] <murlidhar> Kartagis: don't worry it just shows the status
[10:25] <paul68> is the wifi driver in there?
[10:25] <murlidhar> Kartagis: shouldn't be an error
[10:25] <maddox> well, looks like I am going to have to install a chat program on my laptop to jump through this latest hoop
[10:26] <murlidhar> Kartagis: you mean in the file manager it shows filename.extension~
[10:26] <nasser> when I try to eject cd /dvd media in ubuntu 8.10, its closes automatically
[10:26] <_2> jynxzero_ if busybox shell, then that's not a lilo problem. it would have done the same with grub, it's a misconfigured initramfs.img    if no kernel loaded. then it's a lilo problem.
[10:26] <idimmu> maddox: stick to windows
[10:26] <bazhang> idimmu, stop
[10:26] <idimmu> :(
[10:26] <maddox> thanks for the nasty tone
[10:26] <jynxzero_> _2: It was definitely before the kernel loaded, can't remember if it was the infinite LILILIs.
[10:27] <maddox> you're a real ambassador there
[10:27] <jynxzero_> _2: That particular problem was due to the kernel size.
[10:27] <Kartagis> murlidhar, no. the filename
[10:27] <jynxzero_> _2: I don't think the same thing will happen again, but my point is... it does screw up without warning sometimes.
[10:27] <MaXXXX> @jrib pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/65102/
[10:27] <jynxzero_> _2: So I'd feel a lot more comfortable if someone said "Yes, I did this upgrade, it worked."
[10:27] <murlidhar> Kartagis: it's just a backup file that it creates whenever you save a file
[10:27] <paul68> maddox if so enable it and check your wifi connection again
[10:27] <ikonia> jynxzero_ lilo use on ubuntu is rare
[10:27] <jrib> murlidhar: I mean the line from your actual /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:27] <_2> jynxzero_ no.  that's still not a lilo problem.  the boot loader is not to blame for that.
[10:28] <DASPRiD> meh, why did the wonderful card style of freecell solitair change with 8.10 :/
[10:28] <maddox> paul - enable what?
[10:28] <jynxzero_> _2: I'm not concerned who's fault it is.
[10:28] <murlidhar> Kartagis: you can have it removed if you want from you gedit
[10:28] <murlidhar> jrib: err what ?
[10:28] <paul68> maddox: do you see in your restricted drivers the wifi card
[10:28] <jynxzero_> _2: The effect is the same
[10:28] <ikonia> jynxzero_: it is important to understand what is at fault so you don't say "i've got a lilo issue"
[10:28] <jrib> murlidhar: ugh, I hate tab keys that don't read my mind.  Sorry
[10:28] <maddox> yes
[10:28] <murlidhar> jrib: :)
[10:28] <jrib> MaXXXX: I mean the line from your actual /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:28] <jynxzero_> ikonia: I don't have a LILO issue.  I've had one in the past.
[10:29] <paul68> maddox: at the bottum you can enable that driver
[10:29] <jynxzero_> ikonia: I'm just looking for someone who's tested this and can confirm it worked for them
[10:29] <ikonia> jynxzero_: then why mention it in your initial request
[10:29] <maddox> it's already enabled
[10:29] <ikonia> jynxzero_: tested what ?
[10:29] <fallore> i rebooted and got an error saying: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?" Should I delete it?
[10:29] <paul68> maddox: so the color is green behind the card
[10:29] <maddox> yes
[10:29] <dimitree> oh no ! i installed ubuntu again !
[10:30] <jynxzero_> ikonia: In the past, I had serious issues doing an upgrade, because the packages did not notice that LILO required extra options for the kernel it installed.
[10:30] <paul68> maddox: when you check your network icon in the taskbar again do you see your wifi hotspot
[10:30] <Wobert> dimitree ? xD
[10:30] <ikonia> jynxzero_: "I have upgraded and it worked" there you go, I have confirmed it worked
[10:30] <dimitree> Just kidding :)
[10:30] <maddox> no. because wireless is disabled.
[10:30] <maddox> it says "wireless disabled"
[10:30] <maddox> that's why I keep asking how to enable it
[10:30] <jynxzero_> ikonia: From Hardy to Intrepid, on a machine with LILO?
[10:31] <MaXXXX> @jirb OK... did it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/65104/
[10:31] <Wobert> maddox, click on the icon ? :D
[10:31] <_2> jynxzero_ the kernel packages warn you, that you have to manually run lilo     it's not an issue.  it's pebcak.
[10:31] <maddox> there is no icon to click
[10:31] <ikonia> jynxzero_: one of my test machines is a box with lilo to look at booting from lvm /boot partitions
[10:31] <paul68> maddox: you have 2 network icons there right?
[10:31] <paul68> maddox: at least I have
[10:31] <jynxzero_> _2: It wasn't failure to run LILO.
[10:31] <jrib> maddox: personally, I had to reboot after enabling the hardware drivers for my wireless card.  You still haven't told me if you could enable it from "network configuration" though....
[10:31] <ikonia> jynxzero_: because it worked for me does not mean it will workf or you, I had different hardware in a different configuration
[10:31] <maddox> 2 network icons where?
[10:31] <paul68> maddox: brb
[10:31] <ikonia> jynxzero_: no, it updated fine
[10:32] <nikki_> Does anyone know what the name of the command is for Crossover Games? I don't use gnome-panel (or any menu system as such), but dmenu.
[10:32] <fallore> Occasionally firefox will crash. When it does my sound stops working. I tried loading Amarok after this happened to see if Rhythmbox was the problem and it told me that xine couldn't detect any audio drivers. Can anyone figure out what the problem is with this pattern?
[10:32] <maddox> there's nothing to enable from "network configuration"
[10:32] <Wobert> maddox, where does it tell you that the wireless network is not connected ?
[10:32] <jynxzero_> ikonia: No indeed, I understand this... but if there were several people here who had tried, and it had failed, that would be useful information to me.  Surely you see that? :)
[10:32] <_2> jynxzero_ i've been using lilo for about 9 years now. and on about 12 boxen.    lilo works!     and i'll say no more.
[10:32] <jrib> fallore: what version of ubuntu?
[10:32] <maddox> it doesn't say the wireless card is not connected
[10:32] <fallore> jrib: 8.04
[10:32] <ikonia> jynxzero_ but as pretty much no-one would be using lilo, I think your not going to get the confidence you want.
[10:32] <Wobert> maddox, then what does it say ?
[10:32] <carbon_monoxide> is there any hardy backport repo for mono-runtime?
[10:32] <onexused> I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10.  Some packages I don't want removed: ie, xscreensaver, are being removed.  This happened when I upgraded to 8.04, too.  How can I tell it I definitely want to keep these packages?
[10:32] <murlidhar> nikki_: hi . might be crossover
[10:32] <maddox> it says wireless is disabled
[10:33] <noob-africa> bye peeps... guess my problem wont ever be solved
[10:33] <Wobert> maddox, where ?
[10:33] <jrib> maddox: stop saying "it".  be specific
[10:33] <Wobert> maddox, do you get this message ?
[10:33] <maddox> network manager
[10:33] <nikki_> murlidhar: Nope, it isn't it.
[10:33] <jrib> !who | maddox
[10:33] <fallore> bye noob-africa !
[10:33] <Wobert> maddox, are you connected to a wired lan ?
[10:33] <maddox> yes
[10:33] <jrib> fallore: intrepid is supposed to resolve the sound issues with flash (which I suspect is causing your problem)
[10:33] <maddox> wober - yes
[10:33] <jynxzero_> ikonia: Fine, sorry for bothering you all.  I'll check how popular my software is before asking next time :P
[10:33] <Wobert> maddox, then what would you need wireless for ?
[10:34] <shashi__> I am getting unexpected behaviour with 8.10 64-bit version. I usually edit System->Preference-Main_Menu, and i will add my applications. But with ubuntu 8.10, if i click on the Main_Menu, nothing is coming, and also if  i execute "alacarte" in the command line, it is giving error.
[10:34] <fallore> jrib: then i guess i'll do my clean install earlier :) thanks
[10:34] <maddox> jrib - what specifics are you looking for?
[10:34] <dimitree> Is the Wiley Ubuntu Linux Bible a good source to learn about Ubuntu ?
[10:34] <ikonia> jynxzero_ your not bothering anyone, I'm just explaining that pretty much no-one will be using your configurtation, so waiting for multiple people to say "it works" is probably not going to happen
[10:34] <maddox> wober - well, I don't know. perhaps I might want to use my laptop somewhere other than right here next to my desktop. call me crazy.
[10:34] <Do1> !ubboto just a test of !tab
[10:34] <jrib> maddox: well in that case it was "network manager" instead of "it".  /I/ wasn't the one looking though.  I've told you that personally, I had to reboot for network manager to become aware of my wireless card after installing proprietary drivers
[10:35] <maddox> jrib - I have rebooted every time, but I will reboot again
[10:35] <Wavesonics> hi
[10:35] <Wobert> maddox, try pluggin out the wired lan, ubuntu should search for wirelss connection, do you see a network icon on your desktop, top right ?
[10:35] <BoltClock> help! i cant upgrade hardy to intrepid using update-manager, it keeps dying with these warnings and errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64966 sudo apt-get update also dies with these same errors
[10:35] <dimitree> Sorry wrong channel :)
[10:35] <Wavesonics> the very first account created during the install, what groups is it in by default?
[10:35] <jrib> maddox: try to just use "jrib", my highlight doesn't seem to get triggered with @jrib
[10:36] <jynxzero_> ikonia: Well, I got one already... so it wasn't a totally foolish tactic.  I know it's not a cast iron garuntee but it's better than trying totally blind.
[10:36] <jynxzero_> Thanks ppl.
[10:36] <nikki_> Anyone got that free Crossover offer?
[10:36] <maddox> jrib - I just type your name. I don't know how to get it to highlight.
[10:36] <joaopinto> BoltClock, the mirror you are using is probably overloaded
[10:36] <nikki_> Does anyone have any extra licenses? I'd like some. :)
[10:36] <jrib> jynxzero_: for less common configurations, you should try forums or the mailing list.  More eyes will see your question
[10:36] <bazhang> BoltClock, I would suspect the servers are overloaded right now
[10:36] <Wavesonics> my main account seems to have lost it's sudo powers...
[10:36] <joaopinto> BoltClock, switch to a different mirror
[10:36] <ikonia> nikki_ what are you talking about /
[10:36] <MaXXXX> "jrib" please find the pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/65104/
[10:36] <zidane_tr> nikki_ still waiting for my key :(
[10:36] <maddox> nikki - it already ended
[10:36] <nikki_> ikonia: I'm talking about that Crossover Offer.
[10:37] <bazhang> nikki_, that is offtopic here
[10:37] <ikonia> nikki_: is it anything to do with ubuntu ?
[10:37] <slacker_nl> pff
[10:37] <bazhang> nikki_, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:37] <slacker_nl> the upgrade to 8.10 is painful :(
[10:37] <nikki_> ikonia: Umm, sorry. I'm going to offtopic now. :)
[10:37] <BoltClock> joaopinto: other mirrors take ages - do i really have to? also, when i try to ping for those files i seem to get 404s. is this also caused by server overload?
[10:37] <TheGourdCap> How do I change my resolution back to 1024 x 768 in 8.10? It removed the option from the resolution settings
[10:38] <joaopinto> BoltClock, yes
[10:38] <jrib> MaXXXX: I don't see fontconfig-config there.  Are you sure those are the right lines?
[10:38] <BoltClock> joaopinto: hmm ok
[10:38] <joaopinto> BoltClock, that mirror does not take ages, because the connections die :)
[10:38] <maddox> wobert - pulled the lan cord. yes, I see the network icon. no, it doesn't show any wireless networks because wireless is disabled. I am trying to enable it.
[10:38] <slacker_nl> TheGourdCap: edit your xorg.conf (/etc/X11) and there you will see a screen section
[10:38] <slacker_nl> TheGourdCap: there you can add your resolution
[10:39] <MaXXXX> "jrib" I'm a noob who can I grip the lines required +/-20?!
[10:39] <slacker_nl> thnx
[10:39] <Pelo> is the places menu borked for anyone else ? clicking anything in the first section brings up mplayer for me , instead of nautilus
[10:39] <Wobert> maddox, right click on the network icon
[10:39] <BoltClock> joaopinto: doesnt take ages because i live where that is :/
[10:39] <Tom_Davis> hi folks, ibex rc1 the sound worked when I installed saturday, did a reinstall yesterday with the same disk, did the update, now sound does not work in xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop, ideas?
[10:39] <Wobert> maddox, click "enable wireless"
[10:39] <joaopinto> Pelo, please check the release notes, I believe that is a known issue
[10:39] <bazhang> !notes
[10:39] <Wavesonics> I think i somehow screwed up my account's permitions :( The main account I created during instal can no longer sudo, any ideas?
[10:39] <joaopinto> Tom_Davis, I saw some other people reporting sound not working after the latest kernel upgrade :\
[10:39] <shashi__> I am getting unexpected behaviour with 8.10 64-bit version. I usually edit System->Preference-Main_Menu, and i will add my applications. But with ubuntu 8.10, if i click on the Main_Menu, nothing is coming, and also if  i execute "alacarte" in the command line, it is giving error.
[10:39] <maddox> wobert - if there were a thing to click to "enable wireless", I wouldn't have spent the last hour on here trying to figure out how to enable wireless.
[10:40] <onexused> I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10.  Some packages I don't want removed: ie, xscreensaver, are being removed.  This happened when I upgraded to 8.04, too.  How can I tell it I definitely want to keep these packages?
[10:40] <Pelo> thanks joaopinto  I was just wondering , seemed odd
[10:40] <Wobert> maddox, Did you try right clicking the network icon ?
[10:40] <joaopinto> shashi_, pastebin the alacart error
[10:40] <Tom_Davis> joaopinto: ok perhaps an install without update?
[10:40] <maddox> wobert - of course I did
[10:40] <jrib> MaXXXX: try:  sed -n '27638,27678p' /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:40] <joaopinto> Tom_Davis, well, try finding a bug reported on launchpad.net, there maybe a workaround
[10:41] <lclimber> i am having aprobllem upgrading it hangs on setting up console fonts and keymaps,any ideas?
[10:41] <shashi__> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/progress.py: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
[10:41] <shashi__> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:41] <shashi__>   File "/usr/bin/alacarte", line 36, in <module>
[10:41] <shashi__>     main()
[10:41] <shashi__>   File "/usr/bin/alacarte", line 32, in main
[10:41] <FloodBot3> shashi__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <shashi__>     app = MainWindow(datadir, version, sys.argv)
[10:41] <TheGourdCap> Crap! There's no driver listed. How do I enable the NV drivers? (preferably automated. I have a GeForce 4 MX integrated into my motherboard.)
[10:41] <bazhang> shashi__, use paste.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <MaXXXX> jrib, thanks... please here is the pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/65108/
[10:43] <jrib> MaXXXX: what's this return, just so we know what the error line looks like: sed -n '27658p' /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:43] <Tom_Davis> hurm, evidently my launchpad-fu is fail this morning
[10:44] <Wavesonics> crap!!!! Is there anyway I can log into root?
[10:44] <jrib> !root | Wavesonics
[10:44] <bazhang> Wavesonics, use sudo
[10:44] <nalys> !trash
[10:44] <bazhang> !sudo | Wavesonics
[10:44] <jim_p> is there a realtime kernel in the repos? if so... where is it?!!?!? i am looking for it
[10:44] <jim_p> !kernel
[10:44] <maddox2> ok, so now I have my laptop here on a wired connection. now what do I do to enable wireless?
[10:44] <_2> Wavesonics sudo -i
[10:44] <coz_> jim_p,   are you maybe wanting the low latency kernel?
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> hello. I am installing Intrepid on my friend's computer, and the installer can't see the harddisk for some reason (gives me a blank partitioning screen). Any ideas?
[10:45] <shashi__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65110/
[10:45] <MaXXXX> jrib, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/65111/
[10:45] <jrib> pppoe_dude: I think I remember reading something in the release notes about that
[10:45] <jrib> MaXXXX: if you run 'sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:45] <jrib> MaXXXX: if you run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' now, you still get the same error?
[10:45] <maddox2> so there's just no solution then?
[10:46] <Eli_work> Oi screenlets should be part of Ubuntu.... :)
[10:46] <Wavesonics> I can not sudo, i think it's because my account was removed from the adm group, does that make sense?
[10:46]  * Eli_work is busy trying to get his desktop back to working condition
[10:46] <_2> Wavesonics yep.
[10:46] <jrib> Wavesonics: it's the admin group that you need to be in.  What does 'groups' return?
[10:46] <danbh_intrepid> Wavesonics: yea, how'd that happen?
[10:46] <maddox2> does anyone know how to enable wireless?
[10:47] <jim_p> coz_: yea that one, where is he?
[10:47] <_2> Wavesonics you'll have to boot to single user mode. and fix it.
[10:47] <jim_p> coz_: or the server one
[10:47] <nbags> ok so i just updated to intrepid. i have a static ip configured in /etc/network/interfaces. now each time i boot my resolv.conf is empty and network manager doesn't even start anymore. what should i do?
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[10:47] <Eli_work> Wavesonics: usermodmod -a -G admin <username>
[10:47] <shashi__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65110/ .  with ubuntu 8.10, if i click on the Main_Menu, nothing is coming, and also if  i execute "alacarte" in the command line, it is giving error.
[10:47] <Wavesonics> but it replaced my group or something?
[10:47] <Eli_work> oops
[10:47] <Eli_work> Wavesonics: usermod -a -G admin <username>
[10:47] <jim_p> nbags: remove network manager piece of junk
[10:47] <MaT-dg> hi there, I have problems after upgrading tot 8.10, first: I can't connect to a wired or wireless network (don't have a network-manager)
[10:47] <danbh_intrepid> Wavesonics: ah, and you forgot the -a, thus replacing instead of adding
[10:48] <neil_d> if I used a board like the Jetway J9F2, and connected 2 sata drives via a hot-swap bay, can I remove and replace the HDD without turning the computer off ?
[10:48] <coz_> jim_p,  well it is going to depend really, on what you need it for,,, if you are thinking of  doing music composition then the lowlatency kernel would be the best choice
[10:48] <Wavesonics> aahhh
[10:48] <pppoe_dude> hmmm, jrib i can't find the release notes
[10:48] <nbags> jim_p: good idea! why didn't i think of that.
[10:48] <bazhang> MaT-dg, does ifconfig show any devices, if so how many
[10:48] <Wavesonics> ok, how do i boot into single user more?
[10:48] <onexused> I'm upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10.  Some packages I don't want removed: ie, xscreensaver, are being removed.  This happened when I upgraded to 8.04, too.  How can I tell it I definitely want to keep these packages?
[10:48] <_2> Wavesonics command, usermod -aG admin <username>       you'll have to intrurept the <username>
[10:48] <Eli_work> init 2
[10:48] <bazhang> !notes | pppoe_dude
[10:48] <jim_p> coz_: i am thinking of pushing it to the limits!
[10:48] <maddox2> so there's now way to enable wireless in 8.10?
[10:48] <jrib> pppoe_dude: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[10:48] <pppoe_dude> ok thanks#
[10:48] <Eli_work> Wavesonics: sudo init 2
[10:48] <nbags> jim_p: i guess network manager is only really useful for roaming machines (laptops) anyway
[10:48] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hello I have an hp laptop with turion x2 and it claims that cpu frequency scaling is not supported ? can that be correct ?
[10:48] <Redhammer_the_Ol> using 8.10
[10:48] <Wavesonics> lol
[10:48] <Wavesonics> I can't sudo!
[10:48] <notdkw> Hi, is there a preferred method for downloading / burning 8.10? I've tried download with firefox, wget, burning with cdrecord, bresero, and keep getting IO error when I select install / check cd on cd bootup.
[10:48] <spartanii117> MaT-dg: i had the same issue, have you rebooted again?
[10:48] <danbh_intrepid> Wavesonics: I think you just use the recovery mode boot option
[10:48] <TheGourdCap> Uh, the Xorg.conf is really, really, really confusing. Any GUI's for this?
[10:49] <coz_> jim_p,  well   then you have several options lowlatency of course sever  etc  you may want to google just tobe sure which is best for your needs :)
[10:49] <Wavesonics> ah ok
[10:49] <_2> Wavesonics no.  reboot to single user mode.   then issue that command.
[10:49] <pppoe_dude> ok good will try something now
[10:49] <pppoe_dude> bbl
[10:49] <jrib> TheGourdCap: you don't really use xorg.conf anymore.  Why do you want to?
[10:49] <Eli_work> hmmm grub edit -single
[10:49] <Wavesonics> f&$^, i can't even run the shutdown command
[10:49] <jim_p> nbags: i think network manager is a piece of jusk because of its stupid workarounds and such
[10:49] <Eli_work> HAHAHAHA
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> notdkw: that should've worked. Check your burner/discs and try burning at a lower speed.
[10:49] <neil_d> notdkw: have you checked the .iso md5 checksum
[10:49] <jrib> Wavesonics: shutdown from the GUI
[10:49] <Wavesonics> it's a server install
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> thxpnp: he does if he's using an older ubuntu
[10:49] <MaT-dg> bazhang, yes 6 -> eth0, eth0:avahi, lo, wlan0, wlan0:avahi, wmaster0
[10:49] <_2> Wavesonics you can three fingure salute it.
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> erm
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> sorry
[10:49] <maddox2> is there some sort of command like or gedit trick to enable wireless?
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> jrib: ^^
[10:50] <nbags> i just updated to intrepid. now every time i book it wants to fsck my root filesystem. it says '0 days since last check, check forced' every time. WTF?
[10:50] <FloodBot3> SlimeyPete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <nbags> *boot
[10:50] <jim_p> coz_: wel... i dont want to compile it my own :( is it on the repo??
[10:50]  * SlimeyPete gives FloodBot3 a playful slap
[10:50] <TheGourdCap> jrib: I can't get my screen to the right resolution and refresh rate for casual use - 1024x680 at 70 hz. It did that before Intrepid, but that swapped out the nvidia drivers for NV, and they can't seem to properly detect my graphics card.
[10:50] <notdkw> neil_d: 2 cd's and one dvd later.... :)
[10:50] <jrib> SlimeyPete: that's true
[10:50] <coz_> jim_p,  yes it is  indeed in the repos  I would still read up on it before attempting it however :)
[10:50] <_2> Wavesonics sa_lute !
[10:50] <notdkw> neil_d: and two image downloads. :/ are the australian mirrors borked?
[10:50] <MaXXXX> seems I got disconnected
[10:50] <jrib> TheGourdCap: so you want to install the nvidia drivers now?
[10:51] <maddox2> alright, well, guess nobody here is going to help
[10:51] <maddox2> thanks
[10:51] <jim_p> coz_: where on earth is it??!?! find it for me please in ackages.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <MaXXXX> "jrib" here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/65111/ (repost - got disconnected)
[10:51] <neil_d> notdkw: ok! but did you check the iso md5 checksum.
[10:51] <jim_p> *packages.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> MaXXXX: yeah, we're all sitting here deliberately not helping you
[10:51] <jrib> MaXXXX: if you run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' now, you still get the same error?
[10:51] <TheGourdCap> TheGourdCap: I would, but I thought Intrepid broke support for that driver with my old GeForce4MX integrated video.
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> oh ffs
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> maddox: ^^
[10:51] <notdkw> neil_d: Yep, must be a burning issue. will set at a lower speed.
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> I can't tab correctly today >.<
[10:51] <maddox> apparently so
[10:51] <jaminkle> i got my surround sound working and set up. it works when i run the 5.1 test but when i try use sound for music or video it only uses 2 channels.. any ideas?
[10:51] <MaXXXX> "jrib" yes
[10:51] <EugenA> what is the easiest way to enable NTP on ubuntu server?
[10:51] <Wavesonics> ok im @ root shell prompt
[10:51] <TheGourdCap> jrib: I would, but I thought Intrepid broke support for that driver with my old GeForce4MX integrated video.
[10:52] <maddox> I'm just trying to find a way to enable wireless
[10:52] <_2> Wavesonics command, usermod -aG admin <username>       you'll have to intrurept the <username>
[10:52] <nbags> just updated to intrepid. now every time i boot it wants to fsck my root filesystem. it says '0 days since last check, check forced' every time. it takes ages since its 900GB. what should i do?
[10:52] <blak> any eeepc users having some serious issues with the touchpad after intrepid update using array kernel? Such as it being very choppy with response/movement?
[10:52] <joaopinto> EugenA, sudo apt-get install ntp-server
[10:52] <thescorp> v.org
[10:52] <neil_d> notdkw: you could check by taking the CD and create an iso from that and redo the checksum.  I think they should be identical.
[10:52] <jrib> TheGourdCap: ah, I don't know about that.  Does Hardware Drivers not offer anything then?  Did you read for sure you can't use the nvidia drivers from the repositories?
[10:52] <joaopinto> nbags, file a bug report at launchpad.net
[10:52] <_21h_> how to fix bug with Network Manager after update to 8.10?
[10:52] <dekel35> aa
[10:52] <coz_> jim_p,   go into synaptic or your pacakge manager  and type in linux
[10:52] <topx> Hi, I have a laptop with dual boot 8.04 + win xp. I want to update 8.04 to 8.10 but keep the dual boot. Anything special to think of when doing so? If I install over 8.04 will the dual boot be intact?
[10:52] <joaopinto> _21h_, which bug ?
[10:52] <jrib> _21h_: you need to be a little more specific
[10:53] <coz_> jim_p,  for the search type in linux
[10:53] <MaT-dg> spartanii117, yes rebooted many times since yesterday, still no networkmanager
[10:53] <macvr> hi, has anyone tried intrepid? is this channel now for hardy or intrepid?
[10:53] <_21h_> nm-applet says error while starting
[10:53] <rww> macvr: it's for both
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> maddox: I guess no-one here (at the moment) knows the solution. It might be best to check the kernel logs for errors to see if the module is actually loading correctly.
[10:53] <Mahr_Brb> macvr: I have tried it and survived it lol.
[10:53] <zloy> hello
[10:53] <joaopinto> topx, the installer should leave your actual windows boot entry
[10:53] <jaysonsantos> Hello fellas, I have upgraded my ubuntu installation and openssh-blacklist have been remove, don't I need that anymore ?
[10:53] <bazhang> topx, if via the net should be no problem
[10:53] <jim_p> coz_: oh here it is! http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/linux-image-2.6.27-3-rt
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> macvr: it's now for both
[10:53] <MaXXXX> jrib, did you ask me to try something before "sudo apt-get upgrade"!
[10:53]  * SlimeyPete is running intrepid at home, seems okay
[10:53] <jrib> MaXXXX: nope
[10:53] <_2> Wavesonics you might add adm too.  but i think a quick look in /etc/sudoers will reviel that admin is the group you want in to be root jr.
[10:53] <neil_d> notdkw: you could also try the 'test cd' option when you boot from the CD.
[10:53] <TheGourdCap> jrib: It's not listed in Hardware Drivers, and I read about it in release notes, but it said this replacement open NV driver does 2D, and thats all I use this machine for anyway.
[10:53] <jrib> MaXXXX: alright, give me a few more lines so I can see all of the fontconfig-config paragraph I guess (do like 200)
[10:53] <_21h_> http://pastebin.ru/298050
[10:54] <macvr> Mahr_Brb:  using it on a laptop? is wireless working?
[10:54] <_21h_> this error
[10:54] <neil_d> if I used a board like the Jetway J9F2, and connected 2 sata drives via a hot-swap bay, can I remove and replace the HDD without turning the computer off ?
[10:54] <MaXXXX> jrib, OK
[10:54] <[tla]> Hi. environment: Ibex on vmware workstation on XP.  issue: mouse pointer is way off screen selection (ie the pointer selects something way off to the left of something im pointing at).  When i first installed Ibex rc-1 it worked fine but then after a reboot i had the issue.  What do I need to check to make the mouse pointer / screen position correlate with each other?  Bear in mind it's not...
[10:54] <[tla]> ...easy to use the GUI!  Thx.
[10:54] <jim_p> guys if you dont see me tomorrow, i will be lost is some kernel configuration :P
[10:54] <Mahr_Brb> macvr: I actually love it. The only problem I had "out of the box" was that nvidia-settings couldn't save any changes but crashed (segment error) but that can be solved by using nvidia-xconf first.
[10:54] <EugenA> should i now configure NTP? i still have wrong time on this system
[10:54] <jrib> TheGourdCap: what does 'xrandr' return?
[10:54] <Mahr_Brb> macvr: Using on a desktop by my intel w-lan works like a charm.
[10:54] <Mahr_Brb> macvr: *But my...
[10:54] <zloy> _21h_, paste2.org
[10:54] <Pihhan> anyone knows about some sony vaio linux group or forum or something?
[10:54] <_21h_> jrib, joaopinto http://pastebin.ru/298050
[10:55] <macvr> anyone using a ACER ASPIRE 5672 series laptop , and has tried intrepid? any problems anyone?
[10:55] <Wavesonics> why is grub better then lilo?
[10:55] <dekel35> on 8.10 I am seeing that the mouse pointer moves as the joystick moves. That's new. Both my mouse and joystick are connected through usb
[10:55] <macvr> Mahrellon: any other probs?
[10:55] <maddox> I've seen screenshots of the new network manager, and it looks like it sees hotspots and shows you signal strength and everything. so I shouldn't have to manually enter my ssid and all that to be able to see my wireless network, right? it should just see it on its own?
[10:55] <_2> Wavesonics grub better than lilo ?    not in my book.
[10:55] <Pihhan> Wavesonics: because you dont have to run lilo after kernel replace
[10:55] <MaXXXX> jrib, please hind it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/65114/
[10:55] <blak> my touchpad movement is very choppy with 8.10, anyone found a fix for this?
[10:56] <Mahrellon> dekel35: That's becuase xorg 7.4 works a tad different than 7.3. There are some howtos on google on how to assign your joystick to a certein event.
[10:56] <joaopinto> Wavesonics, I am not sure it's better, but I am sure there was a good rational for it to become the default on ubuntu, please check the ubuntu devs mailing list archive
[10:56] <EugenA> joaopinto, should i now configure NTP? i still have wrong time on this system
[10:56] <notdkw> neil_d: test cd gives the same I/O error as 'live cd' and 'install' etc.
[10:56] <notdkw> neil_d: trying a lower speed now, thanks for your help. :)
[10:56] <joaopinto> EugenA, are you sure you have the proper timezone ?
[10:56] <TheGourdCap> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m78d89ba1 I do have an option for 800x600, but at such an eyebleedingly low refresh rate I'd rather not use it.
[10:56] <jrib> Mahrellon: ah ok.  Look at line 97 there.  Did you recently have a power failure or have to force your computer off without properly shutting down?
[10:56] <neil_d> notdkw: ok
[10:56] <dekel35> How can I stop the mouse cursor from responding to joystick events?
[10:56] <Mahrellon> macvr: Only problem I had was that nvidia-settings couldn't save any changes but crashed (segment error) instead. I solved it by running nvidia-xconf first.
[10:56] <joaopinto> EugenA, have you tried a manual ntpdate prior to install npt ?
[10:56] <joaopinto> ops, ntpd
[10:56] <Simon1245> Can someone tell me how to move things from one account to another?
[10:56] <_2> both grub and lilo have their own stringths and weeknesses.
[10:56] <macvr> Mahrellon: ok... thanx..
[10:57] <jrib> TheGourdCap: what does your xorg.conf look like?
[10:57] <Mahrellon> jrib: No, I sorted my problems by adding my joystick to an event in xorg.conf.
[10:57] <jrib> MaXXXX: ah ok.  Look at line 97 there.  Did you recently have a power failure or have to force your computer off without properly shutting down?
[10:57] <Simon1245> Can someone tell me how to move things from one account to another account?
[10:57] <jrib> too many ma* today... sorry Mahrellon
[10:57] <maddox> I've seen screenshots of the new network manager, and it looks like it sees hotspots and shows you signal strength and everything. so I shouldn't have to manually enter my ssid and all that to be able to see my wireless network, right? it should just see it on its own?
[10:57] <Pihhan> Simon1245: use sudo mv from terminal, see man mv and man sudo
[10:57] <macvr>  anyone else used intrepid on their ACER laptops and didnt have any probs? or had any probs i should be aware of?
[10:57] <blak> is it best to get rid of HAL? is has screwed up my mouse it looks like?
[10:57] <Mahrellon> jrib: Hehe no worries M8. And btw, I'm the original Ma* lol
[10:57] <TheGourdCap> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65115/plain/ is my xorg.conf
[10:58] <slacker_nl> macvr: if you have an intel graphics cards: DO NOT UPGRADE
[10:58] <jrib> blak: hal is hot stuff!  what's wrong with your mouse?
[10:58] <jrib> slacker_nl: why?
[10:58] <macvr> slacker_nl: i'm having ATI X1400
[10:58] <slacker_nl> i'm in the sh*t because of that
[10:58] <What_the_deuce> Hey, has anyone here gotten a Syntek webcam (found in Asus laptops) to work in Intrepid?
[10:58] <MaXXXX> jrib, yes there were 5 power outages some days ago :(
[10:58] <Dabbu> how can i install new VLC 0.92 in 8.04 ?
[10:58] <Simon1245> Can some one tell me how to move thing from one place to another?
[10:58] <Redhammer_the_Ol> sorry conncetion died, so has anyone managed to get powernow to work on a intrepid, am using 32bit with turion x2 64 at the mo
[10:58] <blak> jrib all choppy upon movement  jrib
[10:58] <notdkw> slacker_nl: problems with intel graphics cards?
[10:58] <Mahrellon> slacker_nl: Why not? I just tested Intrepid on my workstation with an intel card and it works as it should.
[10:58] <maddox> I've seen screenshots of the new network manager, and it looks like it sees hotspots and shows you signal strength and everything. so I shouldn't have to manually enter my ssid and all that to be able to see my wireless network, right? it should just see it on its own?
[10:58] <slacker_nl> jrib: i'm unable to get a decent x-session
[10:58] <jrib> MaXXXX: alright, looks like some files have become corrupted.  Did you run fsck?
[10:59] <Wavesonics> the group i want to be in to be able to sudo, is the "adm" ?
[10:59] <Simon1245> Can someone tell me how to move a directory from one account to another one?
[10:59] <slacker_nl> my xorg.log is filled with underrun errors on pipe A
[10:59] <jrib> blak: what mouse?
[10:59] <blak> elantech
[10:59] <jrib> Wavesonics: "admin"
[10:59] <Pihhan> Dabbu: you can search for ppa of IntuittiveNipple, he has unofficial VLC for hardy there i think
[10:59] <jrib> blak: ps2 or usb?
[10:59] <slacker_nl> and kdm/gdm are unable to get a decent Xsession
[10:59] <MaT-dg> maddox, what is your problem with the networkmanager?
[10:59] <MaXXXX> jrib, Nope I don't know how to :/
[10:59] <blak> its bulit into the eepc i have
[10:59] <slacker_nl> notdkw: yes
[10:59] <Wavesonics> jrib: interesting, in /etc/group i only have an "adm" group
[10:59] <blak> usb i would think is the connection tho
[10:59] <jrib> blak: it's a touchpad?
[10:59] <blak> yes
[11:00] <Dabbu> Pihhan:do u use VLC
[11:00] <maddox> mat-dg - It says wireless is "disabled" and it doesn't give me the option of enabling it
[11:00] <jaminkle> i got my surround sound working and set up. it works when i run the 5.1 test but when i try use sound for music or video it only uses 2 channels.. any ideas?
[11:00] <notdkw> slacker_nl: I doubt intel cards would have an issue with window managers, more x11 itself?
[11:00] <Pihhan> Dabbu: yes, but i have still old and dont need a change now
[11:00] <slacker_nl> notdkw: it is xorg
[11:00] <slacker_nl> notdkw: my xorg.log is filled with errors
[11:01] <karab44> Hi
[11:01] <notdkw> x11, xorg, xfree86, same shit, different smell. :)
[11:01] <jrib> blak: you're probably better off asking in the eee forums as I'm the problem is already addressed there.  You can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see how the touchpad is getting detected though.  And remember that input devices are ignored in xorg.conf now.  You need to use /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ to modify settings if you want
[11:01] <MaT-dg> maddox, do you have a networkmanager icon in your panel?
[11:01] <MaXXXX> jrib, what shall I type to properly run fsck?
[11:01] <spartanii117> blak: are you running intrepid 64bit?
[11:01] <Dabbu> Pihhan:i installed new VLC  but there is lots of problem with that
[11:01] <jrib> MaXXXX: sudo touch /forcefsck        , then reboot
[11:01] <nalys> hello, when I want to access the following directory with the terminal: "/root/.local/share/Trash/" it says permission denied. And sudo cd doesn't work. What can I do? I accessed it via gui easily though I want to empty that folder and the only option I have is to move it to trash, so it reappears in that folder.
[11:02] <maddox> mat-dg - yes, I have one. when I left click, it shows wireless as "disabled". when I right-click, there's no tick box next to "enable wireless"
[11:02] <karab44> I just made hidden ubuntu main menu  and I wonder how to accelerate the show/hide animation... its just too slow
[11:02] <slacker_nl> notdkw: http://www.euronet.nl/~wesleys/intel-bug/
[11:02] <jrib> nalys: sudo -i, then use cd.  Why though?
[11:02] <jrib> Wavesonics: are you using ubuntu?
[11:02] <notdkw> slacker_nl: 404.
[11:02] <slacker_nl> uhh
[11:02] <slacker_nl> doh
[11:02] <notdkw> heh.
[11:03] <slacker_nl> ~wesleys => /users/wesleys/
[11:03] <notdkw> k. brb.
[11:03] <slacker_nl> http://www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/intel-bug
[11:03] <maddox> *sigh*
[11:03] <nalys> jrib: ok thanks, because I unintentionaly moved some files as root and I want to remove them completely.
[11:03] <slacker_nl> notdkw: i came across a bug on launchpad
[11:03] <blak> no not 64bit
[11:04] <slacker_nl> similar error, but with pipe B
[11:04] <jrib> nalys: just run 'exit' when you are done, to get out of sudo
[11:04] <notdkw> slacker_nl: empty directory listing?
[11:04] <spartanii117> blak:  ok, then it's probabally diffrent from the issue i'm having
[11:04] <pignu> how do i grant my 'developer user' access to my usb mobile drive?
[11:04] <slacker_nl> what..
[11:04] <rexwin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:04] <slacker_nl> notdkw: haha
[11:04] <rexwin> how do i resolve the above issue
[11:04] <jrib> TheGourdCap: did you try adding the resolutions to xorg.conf?  I can pastebin my old one from hardy, but I'm not sure if syntax has changed
[11:04] <TheGourdCap> So anyway, is there a GUI to fix this Xorg resolution problem?
[11:04] <MaT-dg> maddox, sorry can't help you I guess, just thought we had the same problem
[11:04] <TheGourdCap> Err, sorry. Meant to post that because you hadn't responded.
[11:04] <bremby1> hey, anyone else experiencing problems in 8.10 with gnome-panel? it uses one of my cores up to 100%, not doing anything special
[11:05] <jrib> TheGourdCap: I'm assuming system -> preferences -> screen resolution  does not work
[11:05] <nalys> jrib: ok thanks alot for your advice.
[11:05] <rexwin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:05] <slacker_nl> notdkw: not anymore
[11:05] <jrib> rexwin: pastebin the full error and the command you ran
[11:05] <karab44> I solved my problem in pps/panel/toplevels/select either top or bottom panel (location dependent)/select unhide_delay and change the value to acceptable period
[11:05] <TheGourdCap> jrib: I run Xubuntu. I don't have that tool, I think.
[11:05] <slacker_nl> mkdir dir and did an upload to the root.. forgot to cd into the dir :D
[11:05] <slacker_nl> one of them days init
[11:05] <DistroJockey> !pastebin
[11:06] <jrib> TheGourdCap: gnome-display-properties  I guess you don't have that
[11:06] <cabrini> I'm trying to use a shell script to setup my live cd on boot. How can I enable the built in remote desktop vnc from the script?
[11:06] <rexwin> here it goes
[11:06] <rexwin> http://rafb.net/p/2Lm21t19.html
[11:06] <TheGourdCap> jrib: Correct. I could apt-get it, would that work?
[11:07] <reiki> no xchat in repos for Intrepid? all I found was xchat-gnome
[11:07] <Tom_Davis> xchat installed for me on intrepid
[11:07] <joaopinto> reiki, xchat is there
[11:07] <jrib> TheGourdCap: well yes, but you'll be pulling in a bunch of gnome libs.  xrandr is the tool on the command line, but I'm not very familiar with it.  In any case, we can try the xorg.conf modifications and see if they will work
[11:08] <joaopinto> reiki, make sure you have universe enabled
[11:08] <MaT-dg> anyone knows why I see the same connection twice in ifconfig like this:  'eth0', 'eth0:avahi'  ?
[11:08] <spartanii117> jrib: the xorg syntax has not changed, but less of it is needed.
[11:08] <joaopinto> MaT-dg, it's not the same connection, it's a special device setup for avahi
[11:08] <jrib> spartanii117: thanks
[11:09] <jaminkle> i got my surround sound working and set up. it works when i run the 5.1 test but when i try use sound for music or video it only uses 2 channels.. any ideas?
[11:09] <TheGourdCap> jrib: Try what xorg.conf modifications? I don't know how to edit the file.
[11:09] <reiki> for those with blank screen issues on nvidia cards.... try connecting monitor using VGA instead of DVI and see if that helps. I have nvidia and it was all properly detected..... until I screwed with refresh and couldn't fix it and had to reinstall. :)
[11:09] <cih997> hi, i'm looking for soft for ubuntu: periodic alarm, for example active every half hour. Anyone know something like that?
[11:09] <spsneo> which filesystem should I use - ext3 or jfs or xfs and whats the difference
[11:09] <jaminkle> i need to get the surround working system wide
[11:09] <_2> so what is avahi ?
[11:09] <jrib> TheGourdCap: add the SubSection "Display" like in mine here (change the values you want): http://paste.ubuntu.com/65120/
[11:09] <cabrini> !avahi
[11:10] <ParanoiaP> I have a question re: upgrading from 8.04, if anyone can help.
[11:10] <velko> spsneo: if you don't know the difference, just pick any of them
[11:10] <spsneo> velko: which is better
[11:10] <spsneo> velko: let me know
[11:10] <joaopinto> spsneo, keep with ext3, for the differences, check google :) the description is to extensive for IRC
[11:10] <spartanii117> ParanoiaP: what is your q?
[11:10] <_2> spsneo ext#
[11:10] <joaopinto> !anyone | ParanoiaP
[11:10] <velko> spsneo: i use jfs. but noone can tell wich is the best one
[11:11] <ParanoiaP> Doing the network upgrade, it's now paused at "Cleaning up: searching for obsolete software". It's been there for about 20 mins.
[11:11] <lucio12345> hello HELP i just installed 8.10 and now compiz doesn't work
[11:11] <spsneo> velko: is it an extension of ext3
[11:11] <velko> spsneo: no
[11:11] <lucio12345> it says The composite extension is not available
[11:11] <TheGourdCap> jrib: edited it. Hope this works when I restart X in a bit. (need to do a few things first.)
[11:11] <lucio12345> how to reactivate compiz?
[11:11] <joaopinto> spsneo, ext3 is what most people use, so you should be safe with it
[11:12] <lucio12345> 3d is inutils but cool
[11:12] <joaopinto> ParanoiaP, I would quit the upgrade process and restart it :P
[11:12] <spartanii117> TheGourdCap: do you have a second computer on the network?
[11:12] <cloud-ieee> I am having trouble viewing .wmv files can anyone help? I already ran the  'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' and still can not view the files.
[11:12] <TheGourdCap> spartanii117: Yes.
[11:12] <spsneo> joaopinto: i have read many reviews saying that jfs is faster
[11:12] <ParanoiaP> joapinto: thanks.
[11:12] <TheGourdCap> But I also have to leave in about ten minutes. School.
[11:13] <paul68> maddox: you still here?
[11:13] <_2> oh avahi is Zeroconf   pfft why didn't they just say so
[11:13] <joaopinto> spsneo, it's your choice ;)
[11:13] <spartanii117> TheGourdCap: if you have SSH installed you'll beable to make changes from there, and just use ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[11:13] <blak> any idea why i cant see any touchpad info
[11:13] <velko> spsneo: i'm very happy with jfs since 2 or 3 years. but ultimately it's you who'll make the choice for yourself
[11:13] <jrib> blak: where are you looking?
[11:13] <TheGourdCap> spartanii117: That is so far beyond my realm of competency (although I'd like to learn it), just no.
[11:14] <blak> touchpad under system
[11:14] <blak> says i dont have gsynaptics enabled
[11:14] <spsneo> velko: ok .. so i will have one disk jfs and the other one ext3
[11:14] <spartanii117> it's pretty basic actually, it's just a remote terminal
[11:14] <blak> but i thought hal took care of that stuff?
[11:14] <_2> spsneo good call.  try them all and stick with what works for you.
[11:15] <TheGourdCap> spartanii117: I meant setting up SSH, connecting, and knowing keyboard shortcuts.
[11:15] <gate_keeper_> hi guys,  why partition editor in k/ubuntu 8.10 does not recognize my partitions?
[11:15] <gate_keeper_> fdisk do, partition editor no
[11:15] <cabrini> apt-get install vncserver. What's the next command to get it running?
[11:15] <gate_keeper_> as i want to install ubuntu via the install script
[11:15] <lucio12345> >	HELP composite extension is not available after upgrade 8.10 how to restore it?
[11:16] <spartanii117> TheGourdCap: it's pretty basic actually, it's just a remote terminal, to set it up, just type sudo apt-get install ssh, then on the other computer, it's just ssh user@computer
[11:16] <bingungajaa> any shortcut to open terminal ?
[11:16] <cabrini> no but you can set one
[11:16] <_2> gate_keeper_ so use cfdisk and mount the rootfs on /target   </shrugs>    but i don't know why gparted is failing on you.
[11:16] <TheGourdCap> spartanii117: Huh. No firewall poking required?
[11:16] <jrib> bingungajaa: you can set one up in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[11:16] <spartanii117> does it for you
[11:16] <bingungajaa> jrib : ok
[11:16] <spsneo> bingungajaa: u can configure shortcuts
[11:16] <cabrini> bingungajaa, alt + f1 then arrow keys
[11:16] <_2> gate_keeper_ pause at the and ^
[11:17] <TheGourdCap> Anyway, need to go, thanks for help.
[11:17] <Ashwin> i wanted to know how do i deleted filed from a particular date to specific date to specific date
[11:17] <jrib> Ashwin: you can use find (read its man page)
[11:18] <carpeliam> how do i determine what the name of my partition is for grub? i need to add windows to the menu, but i've guessed wrong on which partition it's on several times now
[11:18] <macvr> has anyone upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10? what is the size of the upgrade?
[11:18] <Atomic_UE> this 'ecryptfs-setup-private' that people been going on about for ibex....is that encfs ?
[11:19] <Ashwin> jrib: i tried but cant get the desired result as i have 30,000 files in folder frm which only files created before 5 days should be their nad rest needs to be deleted  i tried "find / -mtime 0 -mtime -4 -daystart"
[11:19] <jrib> macvr: depends on what you have installed.  update-manager will tell you though
[11:19] <jrib> Ashwin: mtime isn't creation time
[11:19] <macvr> jrib: ok...
[11:19] <_2> jrib i have trouble with a range of dates in find too   -atime
[11:20] <Elentir> Anyone experienced slow firefox in 8.10?
[11:20] <Ashwin> jrib: what's the tag i need to use
[11:20] <jrib> Ashwin: creation time is not stored on ext3
[11:20] <newcomer> i get the following error when trying to boot ubuntu "Error 2: Bad file or directory type".
[11:20] <bn43> hi I got a weird problem when I connect to a wifi hotspot after using my normal ethernet cable
[11:21] <reiki> ok where's the settings for compiz fusion?  I want my rotating cube back! :)
[11:21] <Ashwin> jrib: is there any other way
[11:21] <Ontolog> Anyone know how to solve the Firefox/"This video is no longer available"/YouTube issue?
[11:21] <bn43> seems my wifi connection does not route properly - I need to reboot in order for it to work
[11:21] <jim_p> Ontolog: the video is deleted
[11:21] <newcomer> Ontolog, it's not available anymore, what possibly would solve that "issue"?
[11:21] <MaT-dg> does the 64bit version have big compatibility problems with anything? Is there a reason why I should not try the 64bit version?
[11:21] <Ontolog> jim_p: no it's not
[11:21] <Slart> Ontolog: that just means that the video was deleted from the site, afaik
[11:22] <jrib> Ashwin: the information is not stored anywhere, I don't see how you can do it
[11:22] <Ontolog> no it's not
[11:22] <Ontolog> really it's not
[11:22] <jim_p> how can you tell?
[11:22] <Ontolog> i can watch it in IE
[11:22] <proppen> where's build-essential in Intrepid?
[11:22] <bn43> I get an ip via dhcp and I can see that the router ip gets assigned as well but I can't ping it
[11:22] <joaopinto> proppen, in main, as always
[11:22] <proppen> Intrepid 64bit
[11:22] <Slart> MaT-dg: it works fine for me
[11:22] <jrib> proppen: same place it has always been
[11:22] <reiki> proppen in repos
[11:22] <_2> Ashwin you can check the -atime and the -ctime   but there doesn't seem to be any sticky timestamp for inode creation
[11:22] <bn43> anyone experience this problem>
[11:22] <Slart> Ontolog: what video is it?
[11:22] <gate_keeper_> _2 i've mounted the partitions, and no improvement :(
[11:22] <ay^> does anyone else experience memory leakage with transmission 1.34 in 8.10?
[11:22] <jim_p> Ontolog: change the user agent of ff then with some addon
[11:22] <bn43> ?
[11:23] <Elentir> @MaT-dg: running 8.10 on AMD64, only got FF probs atm, haven done anything with flash yet (was prob in 8.04)
[11:23] <gate_keeper_> no idea why gparted doesn't recongnize any part.
[11:23] <Ontolog> ughe... nvm
[11:23] <ay^> I fail to understand if its ubuntu, or transmission thats messing me up here
[11:23] <jim_p> bn43: do you use network manager?
[11:23] <_2> gate_keeper_ no improvement ?   if you have your /target mounted proceed with the install...
[11:23] <bn43> yes
[11:23] <proppen> oh, itś not on the cdrom then? Thanx, I'll have a look
[11:23] <slobad23> how do i get ubuntu server to pick up its ip address from my dhcp server?
[11:23] <joaopinto> ay^, if the memory leakage is with the transmission process, then it's transmission fault :)
[11:23] <bn43> jim_p: yes
[11:23] <reiki> what's the package called that allows you to fine tune compiz-fusion?
[11:23] <jaminkle> i am trying to run a .sh script but i get permission denied and when i try do it with sudo it says command not found
[11:23] <jim_p> bn43: then disable nm and remove it and try again
[11:23] <macvr> jrib: it just goes straight to the upgrade tool... doesnt seem to mention the size... when would i get the notification? of the upgrade size for ubuntu?
[11:24] <Slart> slobad23: edit the file /etc/network/interfaces and set the interface to use dhcp?
[11:24] <bn43> jim_p: how do I remove it?
[11:24] <cabrini> jaminkle, try sudo su to open a root shell and then do it from there
[11:24] <ay^> joaopinto: Yeah that was my first thought, but since it worked just fine with 8.04.1, So I feel confused.. ;P
[11:24] <SimoneB> reiki: compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:24] <jrib> macvr: I don't remember exactly.  I do remember it telling me how much it needed to download at some point
[11:24] <reiki> SimoneB: thanks
[11:24] <Ashwin> can i find files from the modification date
[11:25] <SimoneB> reiki: just open a terminal and type "aptitude search compiz" :P
[11:25] <ay^> joaopinto: also, if no one else has this, it might be my ubuntu
[11:25] <jrib> jaminkle, cabrini: use 'sudo -i' instead if you need a root shell
[11:25] <web_knows> eae o/
[11:25] <macvr> jrib:  i can cancel the upgrade at that point? and do at a later time?
[11:25] <bn43> jim_p: and then what do I use to connect?
[11:25] <cabrini> jrib, why?
[11:25] <Slart> Ashwin: yes
[11:25] <jrib> cabrini: will reset your environment
[11:25] <cabrini> jrib, why would I want to do that?
[11:25] <jrib> cabrini: it's safer
[11:25] <Ashwin> Slart: can you tell me which tag i need to use
[11:25] <bn43> jim_p: btw I'm still on hardy heron
[11:26] <Slart> Ashwin: "find" will do that on the command line.. or the gnome-applet for finding files.. the nautilus finder thingy might also do it
[11:26] <jim_p> bn43: you always grab an ip from dhcp on the router right?
[11:26] <jrib> cabrini: in any case, if you want the effect of sudo su, you should use sudo -s
[11:26] <jim_p> me too
[11:26] <bn43> jim_p: yes
[11:26] <_2> gate_keeper_ that's the way i have to install on partitionless disks...  installer is at the partitioner; i switch tty's and mke2fs -cj /dev/hda ;mount /dev/hda /target ;cd /target #to keep it mounted       switch back to the installer and select [back] and install the base system    when the partitioner starts back up just select [back] and go on to the next step...
[11:26] <jrib> macvr: you should be able to cancel the upgrade as long as it's only in the download phase
[11:27] <bn43> jim_p: I even do an "sudo dhclient wlan0" to check I'm communicating with the dhcp server
[11:27] <SergiobT> Hi all, i've just installed 8.10 version, and the audio doesn't work in webs like myspace, youtube, does anybody know how to fix it?
[11:27] <bn43> jim_p: no errors
[11:27] <_2> gate_keeper_ it's not pretty, but it "works for me" as they say.
[11:27] <Slart> _2: is there some kind of advantage to using a partitionless disk?
[11:27] <bn43> jim_p: and "ip route" shows the right route
[11:27] <Deadboys> how can i see what programs start on boot in ubuntu?
[11:27] <jim_p> bn43: then use /etc/network/interfaces to tell the laptop to look for an ip on dhcp and dont rely on nm crap
[11:27] <macvr> jrib: ok... how much was the downnload for u... i know it might vary but just getting a rough estimate, i dont want to download 700mb now,, thats y...
[11:27] <Slart> !boot | Deadboys
[11:27] <_2> Slart there are several disadvantages in fact.
[11:27] <Slart> 2
[11:28] <Slart> _2: huh? then why do it?
[11:28] <jrib> Deadboys: system -> administration -> software sources, or bum, or sysv-rc-conf, or just look at /etc/rc*
[11:28] <gate_keeper_> _2: hmm, will check it now, thanks a lot!
[11:28] <Deadboys> jrib
[11:29] <Deadboys> one second
[11:29] <bullgard4> What menu item switches on 'popularity contest' (or similar)?
[11:29] <Ashwin> how do i find files created before 3 days
[11:29] <cabrini> how can I allow other users to install my application with apt-get?
[11:30] <_2> Slart you can't use grub   grub is too weak to boot a partitionless disk.     you have to fiddle with the installer as noted above to get it to install that way,   if you make a partition you lose your primary superblock and have to mount with a backup superblock ....    there may be one advantage, you learn (by encessity) a lot about how things work
[11:30] <Deadboys> jrib -bash: cd: /etc/rc.local: Not a directory
[11:30] <jrib> macvr: it took a couple of hours at about 300kb/s.  I don't remember the size though
[11:30] <bn43> jim_p: is there some article/howto on how to live without "crap nm" and what tools to use for wireless?
[11:30] <bn43> jim_p: it is convenient otherwise and can live without it if I know how to connect to regular wifi hotspots using something else?
[11:30] <Deadboys> im using server edition of ubuntu hardy
[11:30] <Deadboys> if it matters
[11:30] <macvr> jrib: oh... ok...
[11:30] <jrib> Deadboys: read 'man update-rc.d' if you to do it that way.  You only want the special directories there
[11:31] <Slart> _2: ah, thanks for that interesting info.. but I think I'll stay with the normal partitioned drive =)
[11:31] <_2> Slart and if you play it just right you can look really cool to a nuub
[11:31] <jim_p> bn43: there is a gui app named wicd, google it. it has even ubuntu repo!
[11:31] <Deadboys> jrib can i pm you
[11:31] <esojep> Ashwin use 'find' -atime flag
[11:31] <_2> pun inteneded
[11:32] <jim_p> bn43: i use it on my friends laptop when he connects to wifi hotspots
[11:32] <esojep> Ashwin or -ctime
[11:32] <SergiobT> Hi all, i've just installed 8.10 version, and the audio doesn't work in webs like myspace, youtube, does anybody know how to fix it?
[11:32] <jrib> Ashwin, esojep: neither atime nor ctime give the time a file was created
[11:32] <Deadboys> install the correct driver for your audo card SergiobT
[11:33] <Deadboys> jrib is it okay if i pm you, if you dont mind
[11:33] <_2> esojep ahemm   -ctime    File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago.
[11:33] <jrib> Deadboys: sure, but if it's about support, I'd prefer if you talked here
[11:33] <bn43> jim_p: thanks! will read up
[11:33] <rc55> Eek! The latest kernel update breaks 8139/810x Realtek Wired Lan connections - it has a bug reported but it's quite severe, it's probably a good idea to pull the latest kernel update... can I talk to anyone about this?
[11:33] <bn43> jim_p: but is this a known problem with nm?
[11:33] <SimoneB> i'm doing the upgrade, the upgrade tool says it needs to download 1.1gb of stuff, how is this possible? the whole cd is 700 mb!
[11:33] <Deadboys> id like to but its too busy
[11:33] <Deadboys> having a hard time reading it all
[11:33] <_2> esojep changed not created.
[11:34] <danbh_intrepid> rc55: you can try #ubuntu-kernel
[11:34] <jrib> SimoneB: it downloads upgrades for things you have installed too
[11:34] <jim_p> bn43: there are loads of problem with nm. i can tell you a real life that happened
[11:34] <macpo3> hmm, if I've just upgraded the server on my lan to 8.10, is there an easy way to make the other machines get their packages from the package cache on the server (if they're there) instead of across my broadband connection?
[11:34] <rc55> danbh_intrepid: thanks :D
[11:35] <danbh_intrepid> macpo3: there is, the name of the program escapes me
[11:35] <danbh_intrepid> macpo3: something like apt-proxy?
[11:35] <bn43> jim_p: ok - that sucks
[11:35] <bn43> jim_p: what is intrepid gonna use?
[11:35] <danbh_intrepid> macpo3: maybe just apt-cacher
[11:35] <jrib> Deadboys: did you read the info ubottu gives with !boot?
[11:35] <jim_p> bn43: nm!
[11:36] <Deadboys> yes
[11:36] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: are u thinking of aptond?
[11:36] <Deadboys> !boot deadboys
[11:36] <macpo3> nm might be fine for what it's designed for, but I have a wired lan with fixed ip addresses and it's a bit over featured for my simple setup
[11:36] <Dusk_Bey> my 8.10 upgrade couldn't finish
[11:36] <_2> esojep and Ashwin -mtime  File's  data was last modified n*24 hours ago.   -atime  File  was  last  accessed n*24 hours ago.    and -ctime  File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago.     but nothing about file was created.   man find
[11:36] <Dusk_Bey> computer is locked
[11:36] <bn43> jim_p: why is it being included if it does not work?
[11:36] <Dusk_Bey> how can i resume upgrade?
[11:36] <Deadboys> i dont have either of the directories jrib
[11:36] <jrib> Deadboys: what directories exactly?
[11:37] <jim_p> bn43: a friend of mine used nm ONCE to connect to the neighbors wireless hotspot. he did connect, and ever since network manager was trying to connect there!!
[11:37] <danbh_intrepid> macvr: no, thats for cds.  There is a program where you can cache downloaded packages on a machine, and you have all the other machines use that machine as the repository
[11:37] <Deadboys> -bash: cd: /etc/rc.local: Not a directory
[11:37] <jim_p> bn43: even if he was miles away!
[11:37] <esojep> _2 so, how to know file created time/date?
[11:37] <jrib> Deadboys: that's a file, not a directory
[11:37] <jtisme> Dusk_Bey, i would be glad to help you but in never upgrade always fresh install
[11:37] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  rc.local is a file.. not a directory
[11:37] <jtisme> i never
[11:37] <Deadboys> ah
[11:38] <danbh_intrepid> macvr: but that might be what that guy was looking for  ( macpo3 aptoncd )
[11:38] <Deadboys> then im stupid
[11:38] <Deadboys> excuse my ignorance
[11:38] <_2> esojep you can't.
[11:38] <jim_p> bn43: i think because wicd is not that spread, and nm is on the repos of all distros
[11:38]  * jonty-comp sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:38] <_2> esojep as far as i know there is no way.
[11:38] <macvr> danbh_intrepid: oh...
[11:38] <bn43> jim_p: cool jim_p thanks for the tip!
[11:38] <jrib> Deadboys: you can either use that file (add it before 'exit 0') or create a proper sysv script using /etc/init.d/skeleton as a guide.  Then you can use sysv-rc-conf (or bum or update-rc.d) to add it to the proper runlevels
[11:38] <bn43> jim_p: cheers
[11:38] <tobago> hi, i have installed ubuntu ibex n my machine and ruby. is there a bug known?
[11:39] <Kharec> I think not.
[11:39] <Deadboys> jrib im completely helpless when it comes to ubuntu :(
[11:39] <jrib> Deadboys: you get used to it, like anything new
[11:39] <Deadboys> ive been using it for about a month lol
[11:39] <Deadboys> but anyways
[11:39] <kiyoshi> been using it for a couple of months... no complains os far
[11:39] <Deadboys> can you be more specific
[11:40] <kiyoshi> besides... there is help everywhere
[11:40] <Deadboys> i just want to make sure that unreal starts on boot
[11:40] <kiyoshi> thats easy enouth.... but i dont have the infor here
[11:40] <OxDeadC0de> unreal? like... the game?
[11:40] <Deadboys> no
[11:40] <kiyoshi> and i did it just wonce
[11:40] <Deadboys> Unreal like the ircd
[11:41] <E-XtraCt> Yesterday I installed Ubuntu on my PC and I already had Vista installed, How can I edit the boot menu ?
[11:41] <kiyoshi> let me see if i can hel u
[11:41] <jrib> Deadboys: does it already have a script in /etc/init.d/ to start it?
[11:41] <Deadboys> i can tell you what dir unreal is installed if it matters
[11:41] <dr_willis> !grub | E-XtraCt
[11:41] <OxDeadC0de> oh, you need to add an initrd script, /etc/init.d, then make a soft link to your runlevel (ex: /etc/rc5.d (the default runlevel)
[11:41] <_2> Deadboys something like    gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    and replace the "exit 0" with your code.     if i understood the question
[11:41] <jrib> OxDeadC0de: 2 is default on ubuntu
[11:42] <_2> OxDeadC0de softlink ?    symbolic link aka symlink ?
[11:42] <E-XtraCt> dr_willis, I just want to put the vista at the top on the menu, How can I do that ?
[11:42] <OxDeadC0de> via ln -s target linkname
[11:42] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  or put your code above the exit 0 line,    ending with a & if you are not sure it spawns to the background
[11:43] <OxDeadC0de> or do what dr_willis suggests, it's easier
[11:43] <_2> yeah symlink
[11:43] <Deadboys> im not running gui
[11:43] <tobago> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml-simple-ruby/+bug/256300
[11:43] <Deadboys> im connecting via putty
[11:43] <Deadboys> to my dedi
[11:43] <Deadboys> and i dont have the rc local file
[11:43] <AlexCONRAD> hi, do I need to backup my ~/ and configs in /etc/ before migrating to Intrepid ?
[11:43] <dr_willis> E-XtraCt,  i edit the menu.lst file and  uncomment the  example given. so its at the top..or edit the 'default #' line to point to your # for the windows install..  grub starts counting at 0 rember that..
[11:43] <Dedi> hey i let only girls connect to me :>
[11:43] <OxDeadC0de> vim /etc/rc.local , there is none?
[11:43] <jonty-comp> AlexCONRAD: probably not, but best be on the safe side
[11:44] <_2> Deadboys sudo nano /etc/rc.local  if no gui
[11:44] <ShitalLin> what is command to mark a partition as boot
[11:44] <kiyoshi> i need to add remote desktop view to start at boot and not at login and i dont have any clue
[11:44] <AlexCONRAD> jonty-comp: ok, thanks
[11:44] <Deadboys> _2 that doesnt help that i dont have the rc.local file
[11:45] <_2> Deadboys why not ?   it will creat it.
[11:45] <joaopinto> kiyoshi, you would need to setup a X session just for that vnc server
[11:45] <Ciorapel> Hello. I installed Interpid Ibex on my HP Compaq 6715s, but everything is running extremly slow (more slow than live CD). My proc. cooler is at full speed altough my proc. has 28 deg. celsius. Anybody who solved the issue of running EXTREMLY SLOW ?
[11:45] <_2> Deadboys and if you create an rc.local  be sure to   sudo chmod 755 /etc/rc.local
[11:46] <dr_willis> ive never seen a ubuntu install without a rc.local  but the default one doesent do anything. :)
[11:46] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  be sure to check your spelling..  Case Is imporntant also.
[11:46] <Deadboys> im aware
[11:46] <_2> dr_willis but i never saw a clean intrepid so i can't argue
[11:46] <joaopinto> Deadboys, there is a default rc.local on Ubuntu...
[11:46] <natalisushka> hi, please I need some help. My system broke for some reason while upgrading to 8.10 from 8.04. I want to enter the recovery mode to fix broken packages, but it needs internet. I have wired connection and wireless around me. How do I connect to either (I prefer wireless)? I tried enditing /etc/network/interfaces for the wired connection but didn't work. When i scan for wireless, how can I select it and enter the passp
[11:46] <macpo3> ok, I guess the best plan is to wait until the server upgrade completes, then install apt-proxy on the server, import the server's apt-cache into apt-proxy on the server, and then edit sources.list on the desktop machines to see the proxy on the server
[11:46] <Deadboys> joakim
[11:46] <natalisushka> Anyother suggestions to connect to internet would be appriciaited
[11:46] <Deadboys> i promise i dont have it
[11:47] <Deadboys> im using ubuntu server if it matters
[11:47] <Deadboys> on my dedi
[11:47] <Deadboys> anyways
[11:47] <joaopinto> not having a default is not a good sign, you can't be sure the new one will be called by the bootup sequence
[11:47] <Deadboys> well reguardless
[11:47] <macpo3> natalisushka, if you're having nm issues (sounds like you are) then use the wired connection to sort it
[11:47] <Deadboys> jrib i dont have a script for it in init.d
[11:47] <_2> Deadboys as i said,  the editor will create it,  just chmod it when done
[11:47] <Deadboys> how do i add one
[11:47] <jonty-comp> my ubuntu server has one
[11:47] <favro> same here
[11:47] <jonty-comp> granted, it's empty, but it's there
[11:47] <Deadboys> well mine doesnt
[11:48] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  its in /etc/rc.local not /etc/init.d/
[11:48] <jonty-comp> Deadboys: just sudo nano /etc/rc.local and then when you save it will create it
[11:48] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  just start up an editor and  make the file.
[11:48] <cuznt> my system tray and task manager wont start up in 4.1
[11:48] <Deadboys> i know its not in etc/init.d
[11:48] <Deadboys> ...
[11:48] <Deadboys> im trying to make unreal3.2 start on boot
[11:48] <Deadboys> thats it
[11:48] <OxDeadC0de> yay I uploaded a cpu frequency scaler applet I made for kde to kde-looks.org about 20 minutes ago, it already has 14 downloads and counting :), looks like people really want that
[11:48] <macpo3> natalisushka have you got a network icon in the system tray?
[11:48] <VSpike> I have a video DVD that when I try to read it with mplayer/vlc/totem/ddrescue causes errors to appear in both /var/log/messages and ddmesg and doesn't work.  ddrescue show a lot of errors. I tried booting from a 7.10 live CD and I have the same problem (currently on 8.10).  I tried it in a different box which is on 7.10 and it works.  I tried booting the machine with the problem into windows and it plays fine.  What could cause this?  Could it be some
[11:49] <Deadboys> can anyone query me detailed instructions how to do that
[11:49] <galv> Hi, anybody had issues instaling Ibex 64 bits?
[11:49] <natalisushka> macpo3: what is nm? And how can I configure the wired one? I am running ubuntu 8.04 from the Live CD now, and inetwork and internet were detected the moment I plugged it. but when i was in recovery mode I didn't seem to have connection when i plugged the wire! What can ido?
[11:49] <joaopinto> Deadboys, you must also have a /etc/init.d/rc.local which calls /etc/rc.local
[11:49] <favro> Deadboys: it will be in /etc/rc2.d
[11:49] <VSpike> I tried another video dvd and it's fine
[11:49] <joaopinto> if you don't have that one, rc.local will not be called
[11:49] <Deadboys> can someone please just query this to me detailed step by step
[11:49] <joaopinto> initscripts: /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:49] <natalisushka> macpo3: as I said, I want internet to work when I am in the recovery mode (which is only command line)
[11:49] <Deadboys> im aware that i need rc.local
[11:49] <VSpike> So this machine + this dvd + linux = fail. other machine, fine.  windows fine. other dvd fine.
[11:49] <Deadboys> but idk what to do after that
[11:49] <macpo3> natalisushka sorry, beyond my knowledge
[11:50] <Deadboys> and this channel moves to fast for me to read just one thing
[11:50] <Deadboys> please query me
[11:50] <jonty-comp> gb.archive.ubuntu.com is really dead today :(
[11:50] <joaopinto> Deadboys, do you have the system related one on /etc/init.d/ ? (This one is not to be created manually)
[11:50] <jonty-comp> the rest of the repos hit fine, but gb.archive consistently fails to connect :P
[11:50] <macpo3> natalisushka I've done manual network config but only from the gui
[11:50] <Lunar_Lamp> joaopinto: yes, I've noticed that too.
[11:50] <_2> joaopinto and the symlink in the runlever dir too
[11:50] <natalisushka> Anyone knows how can i connect to wired connection using command line when I am in recovery mode?
[11:50] <Deadboys> joaopinto
[11:50] <lucio12345> how to reenable composite extension in ubuntu 8.10
[11:50] <jonty-comp> natalisushka: ifconfig eth0 up
[11:50] <paul__> Is the fact that adobe flash player doesnt work on 8.10 a known bug?
[11:50] <Deadboys> the system related what
[11:51] <macpo3> natalisushka I'd guess at ifconfig
[11:51] <Terrasque> jonty-comp: I prefer polish servers, they seem to be pretty fast most of the time :D
[11:51] <joaopinto> paul--__, it works on me
[11:51] <OxDeadC0de> I'm using adobe flash right now on 8.10...
[11:51] <jonty-comp> Terrasque: hehe
[11:51] <paul__> meh
[11:51] <Ciorapel> Anybody installed 8.10 on a HP Compaq 6715s ?!
[11:51] <natalisushka> macpo3: I know! I don't know the proper steps that guarantee it
[11:51] <paul__> it doesnt work for me
[11:51] <joaopinto> Deadboys, there is a system related script, and a user related script, the system script must be on /etc/init.d
[11:51] <_21h_> не стоит прогибаться под изменчивый мир, пусть лучше он прогнется под нас
[11:51] <dr_willis> flash works for me on my 2 8.10 box's
[11:51] <Deadboys> i might
[11:51] <paul__> did you install it off of the deb package?
[11:52] <velko> natalisushka: are you on the box right now?
[11:52] <Deadboys> it would probably help if you told me the file name
[11:52] <macpo3> natalisushka ok, well try opening a terminal from the livecd, find out what the ifconfig is under 8.04, then figure out the ifconfig command to manually recreate that under 8.10
[11:52] <OxDeadC0de> installed it from synaptic
[11:52] <dr_willis> paul__,  i instaleld it by installing the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package
[11:52] <Deadboys> since your speaking to me like im a ubuntu expert but im not hence im in here asking for help
[11:52] <joaopinto> DEA7H, ls -ltr /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:52] <joaopinto> ops, was Deadboys
[11:52] <natalisushka> velko: I am inside Live CD on the same machine that has the problem
[11:52] <Deadboys> WHAT IS THE FILE IN THERE
[11:52] <Deadboys> i know where it is
[11:52] <paul__> i'll try that dr_willis
[11:52] <joaopinto> that's the file name !
[11:52] <Deadboys> okay thats all you had to say
[11:52] <macpo3> natalisushka start with "ifconfig eth0" in a terminal window from the livecd
[11:52] <Deadboys> i asked like 3 times
[11:53] <Deadboys> and you said the same thing
[11:53] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  path is /etc/init.d  file name is rc.local
[11:53] <_21h_> natalisushka, че у тебя там?
[11:53] <cabrini> where does firefox store your settings in ubuntu?
[11:53] <joaopinto> Deadboys, please scroll up next time, I have provided the file name about 1000 lines ^
[11:53] <_2> joaopinto "not to be created manually" ???  why not ?   it's plain text shell scripts    some reason it can't be hand writen ?
[11:53] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  thus the full path to the file is /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:53] <jrib> cabrini: ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[11:53] <cabrini> ty
[11:53] <natalisushka> velko: I had 8.04 and while upgrading to 8.10 I had some issues. When I restart, I get to the login screen of ubuntu but keyboard doesn't work, and I guess it's due to broken packages, so in reconvery mode I want to fix that but I need internet connection
[11:53] <macpo3> natalisushka that's the way I'd try and fix it
[11:54] <joaopinto> _2, because the one on init.d is expected to be installed by initscripts, and unless you have a strong reason to do so, you should not edit scripts managed by packages
[11:54] <[tla]> Hi.  The mouse pointer and focus position don't match on the screen.  Any idea what can cause this and how to fix it?
[11:54] <secion8> anyone else getting errors trying to install ubuntu 8.10?
[11:54] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know why splashy won't move the progress bar after upgrade to 8.10? ^^
[11:54] <secion8> what is the site to paste logs too?
[11:54] <joaopinto> _2, it can be done, it should not
[11:54] <Deadboys> yes i have rc.local
[11:54] <jrib> joaopinto: I disagree, anything in /etc/ is fair game
[11:54] <_21h_> natalisushka, в консоли умеешь?
[11:55] <joaopinto> jrib, /etc/init.d/* is not plain configuration :P
[11:55] <_21h_> тебе надо переключиться в текстовую консоль и от туда восстановить конфиг иксов
[11:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> i need help, just upgraded to intrepid and wireless isn't showing up
[11:55] <_21h_> параллельно можешь инет поднять
[11:55] <Deadboys> i have rc.local in init.d
[11:55] <natalisushka> _21h_: Govorite po anglizki pazhaluysta :)
[11:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> how can i get my wireless working asap?
[11:55] <jrib> joaopinto: /etc/init.d/skeleton is left there for a reason too
[11:55] <velko> natalisushka: ok. if you can connect from the livecd you are using dhcp. if your wired network (on the broken install) is configured for using dhcp (which it most probably is) you have just to issue "ifup eth0" when you log in, provided your interface is called eth0
[11:55] <Deadboys> now how do i modify that to make unreal3.2 start
[11:55] <_21h_> natalisushka, mirc?
[11:55] <Deadboys> on boot
[11:55] <imotic> how do i get to my floppy drive (in intrepid)?
[11:56] <gaoxin> hell
[11:56] <Atomic_UE> ibex doesn't have a global equaliser?
[11:56] <OxDeadC0de> deadboys add the line: /usr/bin/unreal or whatever the binaries name is to the file
[11:56] <_2> joaopinto hmmm ok.   but i have a very strong reason to alwasy rewrite all the scripts in /etc/init.d      reason, i don't like the format, they are ugly.   to many long if statements where a simple && would do. :)     but i wasn't going to ask him to write one anyway.
[11:56] <gaoxin> i no question
[11:56] <jrib> Deadboys: pick a person and address him.  You are all over the place
[11:56] <_21h_> natalisushka, perekluchis v text. konsol i ot tuda podnimi xorg
[11:56] <gaoxin> exit
[11:56] <OxDeadC0de> or if you wat to run as a specific user try man sudo
[11:56] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  you edit the file /etc/rc.local (Make one) and enter the command to run what you want in that file.    ie: /path/to/rununreal &
[11:56] <secion8> what is the url to paste a log, I need an expert to interpet my kernel log, i am not able to install to disk.
[11:56] <jrib> !paste | secion8
[11:56] <natalisushka> macpo3: Ok, I am in terminal now and the list is there. I have access to the file system of the installed ubuntu, and I can change ifconfig accordingly! But I don't know what exactly must be written there
[11:56] <Deadboys> dr_willis if the path to unreal is /root/Unreal3.2 and the command to start it is ./unreal start
[11:57] <_21h_> natalisushka, sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 && sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[11:57] <Deadboys> then what do i enter
[11:57] <_21h_> eto set' podnimet
[11:57] <secion8> k thanks, will be back.
[11:57] <_21h_> sudo ifconfig eth0 up zapustit interfeis
[11:57] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  the command is NOT ./unreal start to start it.. You use the full path.. ./ is a 'short path'  so use the full path   /root/whatever/whatever start
[11:57] <MaXXXX> jrib, sorry for the delay.. Did it, then rebooted...  but still get the same error
[11:58] <MrWizeGuy1983> does anyone know why the network manager wouldn't be up after installing intrepid???
[11:58] <Deadboys> dr_willis
[11:58] <Deadboys> the command is ./unreal start
[11:58] <_21h_> natalisushka, kak perenastroir xorg znaesh?
[11:58] <natalisushka> _21h_: the wired connection doesn't use a static IP, it detected the connection automatically once I plugged it
[11:58] <Deadboys> when im in dir Unreal3.2
[11:58] <Deadboys> i type ./unreal start
[11:58] <Milos_SD> Hello everybody... I have a problem with Evolution... Can't start it... It just use 60% of CPU ... :(
[11:58] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  you are NOT goign to be in that dir.. so yoyu MUST use the full path to that command..
[11:58] <Deadboys> and it starts the ircd
[11:58] <OxDeadC0de> deadboys the full command to start (don't confuse paths), is /root/Unreal3.2/unreal start, the command is NOT ./ , ./ is a shortcut which points to whatever directory you are in
[11:58] <macpo3> natalisushka sorry - what I'm suggesting is that you use the "ifconfig" command from an 8.04 terminal to see what the interface params are, and then use it from the command line with those params when you're running the console recovery mode to manually set the interface up
[11:58] <prince_jammys> Deadboys: no, the dot means 'present directory'. use the full path of the script
[11:59] <natalisushka> _21h_: ya ne govoryu khorosho po ruski :)
[11:59] <Bsims> What happened to the burn animation on compiz
[11:59] <secion8> Can one of you experts please tell me what is wrong with my log. I am trying to install ubuntu 8.10 to disk but it does not seem to write to the drive. I reboot and get an unbootable devive error.
[11:59] <dr_willis> Deadboys,   full path =    /root/whatever/whatever start
[11:59] <Deadboys> okay
[11:59] <secion8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65136/
[11:59] <_21h_> natalisushka, togda sudo dhclient eth0
[11:59] <Deadboys> so what file do i edit again
[11:59] <Deadboys> rc.local in init.d?
[11:59] <Neff> Hi everybody! After the upgrade to the ibex Cheese doesn't work anymore. When I start it the light of my integrated uvc webcam turns on, but I cannot see anything in Cheese window (it remains blank). After few seconds anyway Cheese freezes, and I have to manually force it to close. I tried opening it from the therminal so that I could see the errors, but Cheese dosen't report any error. I tested the webcam with skype and it works... so how can I
[11:59] <OxDeadC0de> that's the one
[11:59] <_21h_> natalisushka, uchis' :) skoro mi zahvatim mir :)
[11:59] <dr_willis> Deadboys,  NO..  /etc/rc.local
[11:59] <Milos_SD> Errors are something like this: (evolution:20600): camel-WARNING **: Could not find key entry for word 'америки': Success
[11:59] <macpo3> natalisushka I don't think you need to actually edit anything at the moment, you just need to figure out what commands to issue from the recovery console to turn ethernet / tcp/ip on
[12:00] <Deadboys> :q
[12:00] <jrib> MaXXXX: ok.  What I would do is check /var/lib/dpkg/status-old for differences.  I would fix my /var/lib/dpkg/status using that file (remember the messed up lines we found before)
[12:00] <natalisushka> macpo3: yes, i see, however, I want to be really certain of what I must type in the console of recovery mode so I may not switch back here for help if anything is missed
[12:00] <NET||abuse> hi all, i'm on intrepid, on my eeepc and my desktop machine, i'm trying to get skype working on either of them, neither will let me use the mic, seems like the exact same issue on both, I went into skype options and set audio preferences, sound in and out and ringing all to pulse, i've tried switching the sound out option to the 4 various options available but can't get it to work. i try the test call and it doesn't record my voice at all.
[12:00] <jonty-comp> natalisushka: it should just be 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up', it depends what the network is set up like
[12:00] <natalisushka> macpo3: that's why I am here, to figure out with your help :)
[12:00] <Bsims> Would it kill ubuntu to Not change how it names secondary drives each version I am getting sick of having to rebuild my amarok DB just because Ubuntu can't make up its mind
[12:00] <MaXXXX> jrib, yes... will try and keep you posted
[12:00] <natalisushka> jonty-comp: alright! I'll write that down :)
[12:01] <MrWizeGuy1983> can anyone give any info at all?????
[12:01] <missioncontrol> is there a way to deploy sharepoint like service in ubuntu?
[12:01] <jonty-comp> like, dhcp, dns, gateway, and so on
[12:01] <jonty-comp> it might be eth1 if you have an odd computer though :P
[12:01] <jrib> MaXXXX: it's probably a good idea to make a backup of the file
[12:01] <macpo3> natalisushka ok, well I've never had to do this myself, I just know what I'd try if I had that problem
[12:01] <MrWizeGuy1983> the network manager isn't there to try to connect to networks
[12:01] <jonty-comp> as long as it isn't wireless
[12:01] <danbh_intrepid> Bsims: whats a "secondary" drive?
[12:01] <secion8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65136/
[12:01] <danbh_intrepid> Bsims: just an extra harddrive you have?
[12:01] <Bsims> danbh_intrepid: correct I have my music on it
[12:02] <natalisushka> macpo3: I guess I'll go to recovery now. I may be back soon! (hopefully not :))
[12:02] <skyfaller_ppc> hey folks, when I try to start xchat-gnome on my new Intrepid install, it just says "segmentation fault" on the command line and quits.  Any ideas? I think it might be https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/enchant/+bug/261596 but I can't tell
[12:02] <jonty-comp> natalisushka: good luck
[12:02] <Bsims> danbh_intrepid: And without fail every upgrade Ubuntu, changes the name it mounts it under so I have to rebuild the amarok database for no good reason
[12:02]  * jonty-comp hates recovery mode because he has a wireless card
[12:02] <danbh_intrepid> Bsims: you should mount it in fstab, or maybe amorak can use uuids?   But if you mount it in fstab, you can set the name where it mounts
[12:03] <imotic> which device in /dev corresponds to the floppy drive (or how to i find out)?
[12:03] <danbh_intrepid> thus avoiding ubuntu's naming scheme, whatever that is
[12:03] <Ohmu> Is there any way to convert mp4 to mp3? My poor m8 can't transfer his music to his new apple, cos he's already shared it 5 times or something.  And he has purchased all his tracks!!
[12:03] <Bsims> Oh I know I can... but the point is I shouldn't have to...
[12:03] <jim_p> imotic: /dev/fd0
[12:03] <MaT-dg> MrWizeGuy1983, I have the same problem as you I guess, there is no icon right?
[12:03] <danbh_intrepid> Bsims: are you doing this through places?
[12:03] <Bsims> danbh_intrepid: Oh btw did intrepid get rid of the burn close animation for you as well
[12:03] <MrWizeGuy1983> right mat
[12:03] <Deadboys> !paste
[12:04] <jrib> Bsims, danbh_intrepid: if you set labels (see !label), then it will use the label for the partition
[12:04] <_2> imotic /dev/fd0* actually
[12:04] <secion8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65136/  Anyone have any ideas on this? Or is it even the right log i am posting?
[12:04] <MrWizeGuy1983> MaT-dg, there's no icon and i don't have any idea how to start it
[12:04] <Bsims> !label
[12:04] <Bsims> danbh_intrepid: places?
[12:04] <Deadboys> okay
[12:04] <imotic> jim_p and _2, i don't have a /dev/fd0 :/ i have a /dev/fd/0 through /dev/fd/3 ... but there's nothing in /etc/fstab about any of them
[12:04] <Deadboys> this is the file i have
[12:04] <Bsims> I just mount it
[12:04] <Deadboys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65139/
[12:04] <Deadboys> how do i need to edit it
[12:04] <danbh_intrepid> Bsims: nvm, I would go with jrib's suggestion
[12:04] <MrWizeGuy1983> things seem faster, but that won't help if i can't get online with wireless
[12:05] <Deadboys> i have no idea what execution bits are or anything like that
[12:05] <jonty-comp> Hmm, I just realised there was a /dev/disk/by-id
[12:05] <_2> imotic if you want to write a 720k 3.5" floppy you use /dev/fd0u720  and if you need to specify 1440k you use /dev/fd0/u1440  ...  so on and so forth.
[12:05] <jonty-comp> that's really useful for automounting my card reader on the server :D
[12:05] <MaXXXX> jrib, will do... thanks you very much for your help
[12:05] <lorenzo> hi, my Hardy is being weird. When I start it, it takes forever to load the icontray, it asks for the pwd for the keyring (all of a sudden, never used to do it before), Firrefox has lost all my settings (bookmarks, homepage), i cant exit via the exit button (it makes the 2 panels disappear and I have to do ctr alt backspace to restart). What is goin on? can anyone help please? thanks
[12:06] <MaT-dg> MrWizeGuy1983, yeah same problem here, did you have wicd in 8.04?
[12:06] <skyfaller_ppc> Bsims: if you want to fix the Burn animation, it's actually pretty easy
[12:06] <jrib> MaXXXX: no problem
[12:06] <Bsims> skyfaller_ppc: I don't even see it anymore
[12:06] <xc1024> hi there
[12:06] <imotic> _2 like i said i don't have a /dev/fd0
[12:06] <MrWizeGuy1983> MaT-dg, what wicd?  i used wireless in 8.04 with no trouble at all
[12:06] <_2> imotic you are using udev and you haven't accessed the fd0 yet.     sudo modprobe floppy
[12:06] <skyfaller_ppc> Bsims: just go to the CompizConfig Settings Manager (under System -> Preferences)
[12:06] <Bsims> skyfaller_ppc: do tell please
[12:07] <alanbshepard77> How can I get ubuntu to burn DVDs? I've tried everything. Google and the forums are of no help. This appears to be a very common issue. :(
[12:07] <Bsims> Yeah and under animations, they removed it in Ibex
[12:07] <SmokeyD> hey people. In as nfs mounted dir I have a file called .nfs0000xxxxx
[12:07] <alst> Hi, quick one. Can I install 8.10 on my ps3? Which ver should I use? As I understand there isn't a powerPc ver avail?
[12:07] <_2> imotic or use the one in the static devices  /dev/.static/dev/fd0*
[12:07] <imotic> _2 thanks
[12:07] <SmokeyD> does anybody know what this file is?
[12:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> MaT-dg, i'm going to try installing the backports
[12:07] <prower> Hello :> I am using intrepid currently...playing the Linux version of quake wars, i can no longer join games even though single player works fine :< has anyone else seen this?
[12:07] <skyfaller_ppc> Bsims: scroll down to "Effects" and enable the "Animations Add-on"
[12:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> i hate intrepid so far, it messed up my wireless
[12:07] <xc1024> yeah, you can install it - google
[12:08] <skyfaller_ppc> Bsims: that adds a number of effects to Compiz, including the Burn animation, that do not appear otherwise
[12:08] <Bsims> There we go
[12:08] <skyfaller_ppc> Bsims: you may have to restart GNOME to see the change
[12:08] <Bsims> thanks
[12:08] <skyfaller_ppc> no prob :)
[12:10]  * _2 waits for imotic to write with dd to his /dev/fd/0    hehhe...
[12:10] <Bsims> Now to de-uglify and un-annoy kde 4.x
[12:10]  * Bsims is slightly pissed they droped 3.5 support
[12:11] <Tyrath> There's a type glitch where when I hit certain combinations of keys one of the characters printed would continuously print
[12:11] <Tyrath> - how can I solve this?
[12:11] <_2> bsims good luck with that.
[12:11] <almostdvs> i want to upgrade using the live cd,  what do i have to keep in mind as far as partitions go?
[12:11] <Tyrath> i'm on intrepid btw
[12:11] <Tyrath> also my graphic drivers failed on intrepid
[12:12] <Tyrath> I need to use the default/safe graphic driver
[12:12] <Tyrath> but I have an Nvidia video card and I want to be able to use it
[12:12] <_2> almostdvs if you delete it or overwrite it, it's gone ?
[12:12] <almostdvs> that's what i'm hoping for.
[12:13] <_2> almostdvs make backups of anything important first.
[12:13] <velko> almostdvs: if you already have an installation which separates / and /home you don't have to repartition
[12:13] <rc55> Is there any way to have a rolling total of up and downstream bandwidth used in Ubuntu over the period of a month for 3G datacards?
[12:13] <_2> velko he doesn't have to repartition at all.
[12:14] <velko> rc55: maybe you'll find vnstat interesting
[12:14] <Tyrath> I think part of the problem is that I havent successfully rolled up to intrepid
[12:14] <Tyrath> - i rolled up the day before intrepid stable was released
[12:14] <_2> you're not root.  i'm root!
[12:14] <Tyrath> as a result i think I missed necessary updates
[12:14] <attonbitusira1> Anyone here trying nvidia 8800 gt under ibex ?
[12:14] <MrWizeGuy1983> MaT-dg, i fixed it
[12:14] <oobe> does anyone know what happens to my custom kernel after i upgrade to intrepid will i be using the intrepid default kernel or will i still be using my custom
[12:15] <MrWizeGuy1983> MaT-dg, install the backports and reboot
[12:15] <almostdvs> well, i already dual boot, so i guess what i'm asking is since my hard drive is already partitioned would the option i want be use entire disk, and it would just use only the partition that is already devoted to ubuntu?
[12:15] <Tyrath> attonbitusira1: I'm using nvidia GO 7400 and it failed after I installed ibex
[12:15] <MrWizeGuy1983> can someone make sure MaT-dg  gets the message to install backports and reboot to fix his problem?
[12:16] <_2> oobe it "should" add a new line in the menu.lst for the default kernel without removing your custom    heavy on the "should"
[12:16] <rc55> velko: thanks :D
[12:16] <oobe> _2, thanks
[12:16] <velko> almostdvs: make sure you have separate partitions for the system and your data, else you'll end up losing your data
[12:16] <_2> almostdvs no.
[12:17] <delfick> hello, I just installed intrepid on my computer (fresh installation). By chance I looked at the boot folder on the partition I just installed it to, and it is empty, what should I do to make it not empty so that it will boot when I restart (haven't restarted yet, just assuming it won't work :))
[12:17] <oobe> i will check grub before rebooting
[12:17] <_2> almostdvs if you select "use entire disk"  it's supposed to wipe out everything you have.
[12:18] <almostdvs> so it's hdd not partitions, ok
[12:18] <almostdvs> so...
[12:18] <_2> custom disk partitioning.
[12:18] <almostdvs> i'm probably making this more complicated than it needs to be, i just want to make sure i wipe where ubuntu is and not touch my windows partition
[12:19] <velko> delfick: make sure you have installed grub and a kernel
[12:19] <Inunda> Hi all. How can i put the new release on a pen drive?
[12:19] <_2> select the area you want to use as the rootfs and let it format it. almostdvs
[12:19] <prower> this is getting more weird :> i analyzed the udp packets sent out by quake wars in intrepid, their checksums are wrong
[12:19] <bazhang> !usb | Inunda
[12:20] <_2> almostdvs and to your quarry,  yes.  disk == hdd    "NOT disk = partition"
[12:20] <m41n1> hi
[12:21] <runpain2> Hello
[12:21] <_2> almostdvs M$ misrepresented partitions as "logical disks" a long time ago and never recovered from the error.
[12:21] <m41n1> after booting the ubuntu-liveCD, could i mount the ISO file of the CD (i have in a pen drive) to install linux from that iso file?
[12:21] <m41n1> and not from the CD?
[12:22] <delfick> velko: how ? I just installed it from the livecd........(am still in the livecd)
[12:22] <_2> m41n1 yes.   if you know how.
[12:22] <nikitis> Is it time to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:22] <velko> delfick: use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude to install these packages
[12:22] <m41n1> hehe
[12:22] <m41n1> how?
[12:22] <m41n1> is the main question
[12:23] <_2> m41n1 i was afraid of that.
[12:23] <runpain2> Legend2440 not here today?
[12:23] <ikonia> runpain2: do you see his nick ?
[12:23] <cyptrix> Hi all
[12:23] <runpain2> nope
[12:23] <Tyrath> hey does ibex have bugs or is it that i've installed a pre-realease?
[12:23] <ikonia> runpain2: there you go then
[12:23] <cyptrix> just upgraded to 8.10 (from 8.04)
[12:24] <runpain2> ikona thanks
[12:24] <Tyrath> cyptrix: let me guess. your graphics cards failed?
[12:24] <runpain2> ikonia can you help me
[12:24] <nikitis> question, how come sudo apt-get dist-upgrade produces no results?
[12:24] <cyptrix> can't boot off the 2.6.27-7 kernel, however 2.6.24-21 works
[12:24] <ikonia> runpain2: perhaps
[12:24] <prower> no one else is seeing quake wars problems in 8.10? :<
[12:24] <_2> m41n1 the mounting process is pretty streight forward.  the rest is very dependant.   sudo mount /dev/sda* /mnt  ;sudo mount -o loop /mnt/file.iso /some/place
[12:24] <mitur> I have installed NVIDIA X-Server Settings to run twinscreen. It works perfectly, the only problem is that the settings does not save to file
[12:24] <MaXXXX> jrib, many thanks, we are getting somewhere... Now I get this error http://pastebin.com/m47f5f4f4
[12:24] <cyptrix> i get a kernel panic (using Intel 64bit Atom cpu)
[12:24] <runpain2> do you know about any new wireless drivers for a laptop
[12:24] <nikitis> mitur, run nvidia-settings as root
[12:25] <mitur> i get Segmentation fault error when i try to save the settings to the file
[12:25] <ikonia> cyptrix I did't thing atom was 64 bit
[12:25] <mitur> nikitis, i have done it, if u mean by typing sudo nvidia-settings
[12:25] <cyptrix> it has emt64
[12:25] <NET||abuse> anyon ehave issues with skype under intrepid, it won't use my mic?
[12:25] <mitur> i get Segmentation fault
[12:25] <_2> m41n1 mounting the usb stick on /mnt  then loop mounting the iso file     but from there it gets hairEEE
[12:25] <RESiS> omg
[12:25] <nikitis> mitur, not sure then
[12:25] <RESiS> the update is so slow
[12:25] <delfick> velko: actually don't worry, I realise what was goin on. (in installation I made /dev/sda1 my boot partition. In my tiredness I forgot that /boot folder on the partition that has my new linux installation won't have that parition mounted into that boot folder untill it's booted up
[12:25] <nikitis> RESiS, how do you start the update?
[12:25] <cyptrix> kernel panics in a cryptic way straight after grub
[12:25] <delfick> thnx for help anyways :)
[12:25] <RESiS> is it faster to dl the cd and update?
[12:25] <jrib> MaXXXX: try to figure out why update-grub fails
[12:25] <runpain2> ikonia, do you know about any new wireless drivers for a laptop
[12:26] <m41n1> i have mounted the ISO in /cdrom/
[12:26] <m41n1> but now i don't know how to proceed
[12:26] <ikonia> runpain2: why don't you just explain the problem
[12:26] <RESiS> nikitis with the update manager
[12:26] <RESiS> bad way?
[12:26] <cyptrix> don't understand how i can troubleshoot it :/
[12:26] <Tyrath> google?
[12:26] <nikitis> RESiS, typing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work for me
[12:26] <RESiS> nikitis
[12:26] <RESiS> go in your settings
[12:27] <_2> m41n1 im not sure what iso you have. so it would be hard to guess.  but you will probably have to mount the casperfs contained in the iso as well.
[12:27] <Tyrath> nikitis: you may have to update your registry
[12:27]  * runpain2 is away: I'm busy Giving a Haircut Be Back ASAP
[12:27] <nikitis> Tyrath, explain how
[12:27] <RESiS> nikitis : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[12:27] <cyptrix> RIP apic_timer_interrupt
[12:27] <ikonia> !away > runpain2
[12:27] <_2> m41n1 did you look on the !install page ?
[12:27] <Tyrath> yeah, what cyptrix said
[12:27] <_2> !install > m41n1
[12:28] <Tyrath> ubottu: intrepid key-sticking bug
[12:28] <cyptrix> change_page_attr_set_clr
[12:28] <Tyrath> !intrepid key-sticking bug
[12:28] <MaXXXX> jrib, I'm not sure if it falls! here is the output of 'grub-update' http://pastebin.com/m1c2a78f7
[12:28] <nikitis> RESiS, Tyrath, Thanks
[12:28] <RESiS> nikitis u were RTS only?
[12:28] <Tyrath> !intrepid
[12:29] <nikitis> RESiS, apparently, I never changed any of those settings ever
[12:29] <runpain2> sorry
[12:29] <Yimpolo> hmmm
[12:29] <nikitis> RESiS, that was the default
[12:29] <RESiS> okay
[12:29] <RESiS> now u can dl i think
[12:29] <nikitis> Anyone know if this will cause problems with an LVM Setup?
[12:29] <ubuntu> Hallo
[12:29] <ikonia> nikitis: if what ill
[12:29] <ikonia> will
[12:29] <_2> yes
[12:29] <nikitis> ikonia, the network upgrade
[12:30] <runpain2> ikonia,  i thought i had a haircut and that message is what i have in Xchat
[12:30] <ikonia> nikitis why would a network upgrade effect lvm
[12:30] <symtab_> is cairo-dock-plugins included in Ubuntu 8.10?
[12:30] <tARrAScH> I wonder If I'm alone, I've just upgraded to 8.10, and I still have OpenOffice 2.4 and Virtualbox 1.6 . Is that normal ?
[12:30] <ikonia> runpain2: please disable that script
[12:30] <ikonia> tARrAScH: yes
[12:30] <nikitis> ikonia, say it tries to install a new version of grub, not reading the current menu.lst
[12:30] <RESiS> tarasch OOo 3.0 isn't in teh last version
[12:30] <symtab_> btw...congrats for the new version...its slow compared to old versions but it detected everything on a Dell XPS M1530
[12:30] <tARrAScH> ikonia: Is there any reason for that :s ?
[12:30] <ikonia> nikitis: ok, but your existing menu.lst should remain
[12:30] <nikitis> ikonia, i have a pretty unique setup, not using uuid
[12:30] <RESiS> upgrade it manually
[12:30] <sliverchair> hi, quick question, how do install openJDK Firefox plugin? Using Interpid
[12:30] <_2> tARrAScH was it a full upgrade and successful ?
[12:31] <runpain2> thats not important right now my wireless is the problem
[12:31] <nikitis> ikonia, ok, in theory if it reads the same menu.lst then it should be fine
[12:31] <tARrAScH> _2: I think so, I can't recall any greater errors
[12:31] <ubuntu> Kann man auch hier Deutsch sprechen
[12:31] <nikitis> all concerns have been met, thanks everyone, i shall return and report
[12:31] <prower> well how about, is anyone playing quake wars successfully in intrepid? :> maybe it's just me
[12:31] <MaXXXX> jrib, rebooing...
[12:31] <scizzo-> hello
[12:31] <lucio12345> hello
[12:31] <RESiS> I'm dling the update @50ko/sec normal?
[12:31] <runpain2> !wireless
[12:32] <_2> tARrAScH sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    should confirm
[12:32] <RESiS> should i dl the live cd and update from it?
[12:32] <Iradieh> How can I backing up using Time Machine to a firewire disk attached to an intel mac running Xubuntu
[12:32] <ziroday> sliverchair: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[12:32] <nikolajsheller1> !refit
[12:32] <nikitis> Oh, anyone have the changelog list?  not a userfriendly one, but a detailed one?
[12:32] <nikolajsheller1> !efi
[12:32] <nikitis> !changelog
[12:32] <lucio12345> how to activate COMPIZ in UBUNTU 8.10 in 8.04 it was working and now not
[12:32] <ziroday> !msgthebot
[12:32] <scizzo-> anyone else here that knows why rubyXX is not installing the ruby executable but uses rubyX.X as executable so there is no _standard_ ruby executable?
[12:32] <bingungajaa> i just install cairo dock, but i can't find the application, anyone can help me pls ?
[12:32] <nikolajsheller1> !macbook
[12:32] <ziroday> lucio12345: have toy installed the restricted drivers
[12:32] <ikonia> nikitis: it won't delete your existing menu.lst
[12:32] <chaos1> hello. I was reading about the new features in 8.10 (I am probably going to stick with 8.04 for a little while) and I saw a new feature that allows you to install ubuntu on a usb key. what package is that? I saw flashybrid but was not sure if that was the right package
[12:33] <nikitis> ikonia, i know, i just want a changelog
[12:33] <lucio12345> i ziroday i have nvidia drivers
[12:33] <ubuntu> Wo bleibt Deutsch
[12:33] <lucio12345> in 8.04 it was working properly and cool
[12:33] <tARrAScH> _2: all zeroes
[12:33] <lucio12345> now i get Composite is not available
[12:33] <_2> scizzo- looks like an "alternatives" issue.   update-alternatives might help
[12:33] <OxDeadC0de> bingungajja open system/preferences/sessions, add new, name "Cairo Dock" command: "cairo-dock"
[12:33] <ikonia> nikitis I can't see anything of any consiqeunce int he updates, trying to find detail now
[12:33] <_2> tARrAScH ok.   then i don't know.
[12:33] <chaos1> :! also how do you do the "guest session"?
[12:33] <bingungajaa> oxdeadc0de : thx
[12:33] <ziroday> lucio12345: this is due to you not having the nvidia drivers installed. What card do you have?
[12:33] <OxDeadC0de> bingungajaa: then next time you log into gnome it will run :)
[12:34] <tARrAScH> _2:  Thanks alot anyway :), But you got your VirtualBox and OpenOffice upgraded ?
[12:34] <_2> tARrAScH i am still on dapper.
[12:34] <lucio12345> ATI radeon 9200
[12:34] <ziroday> chaos1: go to the top right and click your username and you will see "Guest Session"
[12:34] <_2> tARrAScH dialup doesnt like frequent upgrades.
[12:34] <ziroday> lucio12345: thats an ati card, you need ati drivers. However support for that card was dropped in 8.10. You will not be able to enable compiz
[12:34] <tARrAScH> _2: I see
[12:35] <lucio12345> in Hardware Drivers i have ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX grphics drivers with a green led
[12:35] <chaos1> ziorday: its not there. just my users that are on my system. (I have 8.04)
[12:35] <_2> tARrAScH let me rephrase. dialup doesn't like network installation of any kind.
[12:35] <ziroday> chaos1: you need 8.10 for the guest account feature
[12:35] <_2> [nkbansal_8318(n=nkbansal@203.200.95.130)] just testing
[12:35] <lucio12345> ati drivers was there because before the upgrade compiz was working cool
[12:35] <_2> nkbansal_8318 ?
[12:35] <alharthi> hi
[12:35] <chaos1> ziroday: ok. dang I thought I could install a package and get it. :(
[12:35] <stewils> i've just been upgrading ubuntu server via putty ssh, but the network lost signal, the ssh stopped....is there any way to get the session back?
[12:35] <JeremyBicha> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition shows a screenshot of an expanded help menu in the Gnome System menu, does anyone else have this or know why I still have the old "Help & Support"?
[12:35] <RESiS> !antialiasing
[12:35] <ziroday> chaos1: sorry, nope
[12:36] <dr_willis> speaking of 'guest' accounts.. what if i make a user named 'guest' - will that possibially confuse stuff on down the road?
[12:36] <ziroday> JeremyBicha: which version of ubuntu?
[12:36] <Guest59911> I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a and its asking me a billion questions that i dont know how to answer. how can i reset back to the default?
[12:36] <ziroday> dr_willis: yes
[12:36] <_2> dr_willis but of course
[12:36] <RESiS> Can i put some AA in my desktop? the effets aliases and it's ugly
[12:36] <_2> dr_willis i have three different user accounts all named "guest"  hehhe.
[12:36] <chaos1> ziroday: what about the flashybrid package? is that the package that allows said guest user to put ubuntu on a usb key and install it at a later time?
[12:36] <ziroday> RESiS: are you using compiz?
[12:37] <dr_willis> ziroday,  _2 in what way? :) i got a ubuntu laptop setup  with a guest, and it even autologs into guest. :)  not seen any issues yet.. but its designed to let the kids/guests websurf only
[12:37] <jrib> how can I get my isight to work on intrepid?
[12:37] <JeremyBicha> I've been using Intrepid for quite a while, maybe something didn't upgrade right?
[12:37] <ziroday> chaos1: yes, you can burn a livecd and create the thumbdrive from that
[12:37] <RESiS> ziroday I dunno, i'm using the extra effets (so ye i think)
[12:37] <_2> dr_willis oh it's the possably on down the road.   answer is always "yes" to that.
[12:37] <Junee_moetz> surabaya
[12:37] <ziroday> RESiS: then ask in #compiz-fusion and specify which effect
[12:38] <stewils> help please.  I'm mid way through ubuntu server install but the ssh session craped out.  any way to recover it?
[12:38] <RESiS> okay ty
[12:38] <dr_willis> _2 at least i dident make a 'root' user in the first user dialogs in the installer.. like ive seeen otehrs do. :) i got my normal user, and a 'guest' account
[12:38] <ziroday> JeremyBicha: what package again?
[12:38] <alharthi> and>?
[12:38] <chaos1> ziroday: Read the last sentence of the second paragraph: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.10-desktop That is what I am talking about.
[12:38] <sliverchair> ziroday: how do I fix this, "Could not apply changes!
[12:38] <sliverchair> Fix broken packages first."
[12:38] <unr3a1> hey all... I am trying to upgrade to 8.10, and my update manager is not showing the option for the new version
[12:39] <ziroday> sliverchair: does it give you a command to run?
[12:39] <unr3a1> how do I get update manager to see the new version of the distribution?
[12:39] <pepito_> hellooo
[12:39] <_2> dr_willis my normal user is root    and that's not a root jr. nor real root   hehhe
[12:39] <sliverchair> ziroday: no
[12:39] <prower> hmm...there must be something wrong with the networking in intrepid, it is generating packets with bad checksums in applications outside of quake wars as well
[12:39] <ziroday> sliverchair: one sec
[12:39] <jeroen-> I can't burn isos anymore in Intrepid! :-(
[12:39] <nikitis> hmm downloading at decent speeds this go around unlike the last 5 upgrades
[12:39] <pignu> how do i grant my 'developer user' access to my usb mobile drive?
[12:39] <znh> Hello. I'm searching for some application that can adjust my laptop's screen brightness. I had this in Gnome, but im in Xfce now
[12:39] <jeroen-> brasero and k3b both gives errors
[12:40] <OxDeadC0de> unr3a1: update-manager -d
[12:40] <jeroen-> BraseroGrowisofs stderr: :-( write failed: Input/output error
[12:40] <nikitis> <== Upgrading on a distro from 5 times ago.
[12:40] <_2> dr_willis superuser is "some other name that i don't care to disclose here."   and you should see the password.
[12:40] <jeroen-> never had that with hardy
[12:40] <jeroen-> and before
[12:40] <ziroday> chaos1: yes that is what I am talking about. If you can download a livecd the utility to make the thumbdrive version of ubuntu is on there and you can use it
[12:40] <ziroday> sliverchair: what packages does it say is broken?
[12:40] <stewils> ssh? anyone know?
[12:40] <_2> pignu what format ?
[12:41] <ziroday> stewils: you can ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:41] <stewils> ok
[12:41] <chaos1> unr3a1: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:41] <krish> on my ubuntu server internet is not working
[12:41] <ziroday> krish: is it an ethernet connection?
[12:41] <_2> pignu what format is the usb moble drive ?
[12:41] <jeroen-> :-[ WRITE@LBA=10h failed with SK=4h/LOGICAL UNIT COMMUNICATION CRC ERROR (ULTRA-DMA/32)]: Input/output error
[12:41] <jeroen-> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[12:42] <chaos1> ziroday: thanks
[12:42] <krish> ziroday yes it is ethernet connection
[12:42] <ziroday> krish: can you pastebin ifconfig -a pleae
[12:42] <ziroday> *please
[12:42] <sliverchair> ziroday, nothing, I'm trying to install icedtea-gcjwebplugin from the Firefox plugin service
[12:42] <krish> ok
[12:42] <ziroday> sliverchair: okay, are you doing this in the terminal or through what?
[12:42] <chaos1> ziroday: what does the flashybrid package do? is that some kind of Reconstructor type program? One that lets you create a custom livecd
[12:43] <sliverchair> ziroday: Firefox, aptitude doesn't do anything
[12:43] <ziroday> chaos1: not sure its called flashybird, its similar to unetbootin
[12:43] <krish> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:fc:dc:39
[12:43] <krish>           inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:43] <krish>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:38ff:fefc:dc39/64 Scope:Link
[12:43] <krish>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:43] <krish>           RX packets:375824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:43] <krish>           TX packets:410181 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:3 carrier:0
[12:43] <FloodBot3> krish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <ziroday> sliverchair: okay in a terminal - sudo apt-get install icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[12:44] <ziroday> krish: how are you able to send that if you have no internet connection?
[12:44] <chaos1> :& not sure if I should wait a few weeks for 8.10 or jump in
[12:44] <krish> this is my laptop
[12:44] <krish> i have another server
[12:44] <krish> both are using the same settings and router and connection
[12:44] <Shoopuf> Which Ubuntu would be best if I wanted to try running it off of a USB? Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu?
[12:44] <krish> but server is not working
[12:45] <neoice> is there a friendly control panel to adjust the gnome effects?
[12:45] <ziroday> krish: okay the ethernet device says that its connected to the internet just fine. What does ping www.google.com say?
[12:45] <ziroday> neoice: yes
[12:45] <sung6913> ..
[12:45] <mizifih> S.O.S.
[12:45] <ziroday> !advanced | neoice
[12:45] <chaos1> Shoopuf: it depends on what you run
[12:45] <mizifih> nube need some help
[12:45] <cpro> hi i am running my update manager but its not showin 8.10 in update i want  to update my 8.04 to 8.10 plz help
[12:46] <ziroday> !ccsm | neoice its the second program
[12:46] <Dorobo18jp> anyone know how to install smoothweather?
[12:46] <_2> mizifih not the way to get it.
[12:46] <tARrAScH> !question | mizifih
[12:46] <ziroday> !upgrade | cpro follow the instructions carefully
[12:46] <runpain2> I cant download files i kept getting Ubuntu Christian Edition Parental Controls   how do i change this i am the only one on this computer??
[12:46] <lucio12345> i have installed the 8.10 and i lost the Compiz effects now i get Composite is not available
[12:46] <mizifih> anyone here uses openbb to brickblock wii games?
[12:46] <lucio12345> how to restore it? in 8.04 it was good
[12:46] <ziroday> lucio12345: I have already explained this to you
[12:46] <neoice> thank you much ziroday
[12:47] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  if its not inthe repos.. you will have to go to the web site and download/install it manually i guess
[12:47] <runpain2> Should i disable dansgaurd
[12:47] <cpro> ziroday ya i did i did normal release option in software source but its still not comming when i am running my update manager
[12:47] <lucio12345> ziroday i have the drivers
[12:47] <dr_willis> runpain2,  you may want to check the docs at the Ubuntu CE edition web page
[12:47] <sap> is there anything like mass downloader for ubuntu
[12:47] <cpro> ubottu ya i did i did normal release option in software source but its still not comming when i am running my update manager
[12:47] <Dorobo18jp> Dr will i downloaded it to my desktopis there a way to installin from there
[12:47] <ziroday> cpro: try switch mirrors
[12:48] <WhiteDiesel> why does my shared network folder disappear after reboot?
[12:48] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  depends on exactly 'what' you downloaded
[12:48] <_2> sap wget ?
[12:48] <runpain2> dr_willis, i am the only one on this cumputer
[12:48] <cpro> ziroday ok how to do that
[12:48] <ziroday> lucio12345: yes but they wont work on the new xorg, in intrepid
[12:48] <milligan_> Um, I managed to fat-finger some buttons so that ubuntu zoomed in on my monitor. How can I zoom out again, so I can see more than 1/3 of my screen ? :P
[12:48] <freedumMan> Concerning Mount command:   Where does Ubuntu know how to mount as the label in /media Directory?
[12:48] <lucio12345> hmm ok
[12:48] <Dorobo18jp> Dr.wills i downloaded SmoothWeather_v0.3.1.tar.gz
[12:48] <dr_willis> runpain2,  so?   the Ubntu CE has stuff installed thats not normal/default in Ubuntu.. in here we most likely do not know what  changes they have done
[12:48] <_2> milligan_ ctrl+alt+minus
[12:48] <ziroday> cpro: using the software sources dialog
[12:49] <Shoopuf> What's the difference between Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu?
[12:49] <Tophat> !wbui | Tophat
[12:49] <_2> milligan_ ctrl+alt+plus is zoom in
[12:49] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  i guess you uncompress/compile/install it.. you may want to read its web page for any other docs/info on it
[12:49] <ziroday> Shoopuf: mainly what DE they use
[12:49] <milligan_> _2, I didn't change the resolution. It zoomed in, as if it's some kind of viewing aid.
[12:49] <Pici> !flavors | Shoopuf
[12:49] <Tophat> !wubi | Tophat
[12:49] <prower> To anyone who is playing games like quake and such under intrepid, there's currently a bug that prevents all udp packets from being generated properly :<
[12:49] <mizifih> Anyone know how to properly use 9600GT on ubuntu?
[12:49] <patrick-1> hey can anyone tell me how i can mount a previously created md0 device with an ubuntu livecd?
[12:49] <runpain2> dr_willis, its set at strict
[12:49] <Junee_moetz> surabaya
[12:49] <Dorobo18jp> i did it does not tell to much on the install could i pm you ? Dr.Wills
[12:49] <dr_willis> runpain2,  i guess you set it to be not strict? :)
[12:50] <_2> milligan_ oh,  well look in the menu for accessability apps
[12:50] <RESiS> fo my maj stopped :(
[12:50] <_2> milligan_ cause i don't know the hot keys for that
[12:50] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  uncompress it, look in the dirctory see if theres a readme.. ive no clue what that thing is even for
[12:50] <runpain2> great thanks dr_willis
[12:50] <Shoopuf> So which is most stable, GNOME?
[12:50] <RESiS> can i update with a liveCD?
[12:50] <Dorobo18jp> ok thanks
[12:50] <Shoopuf> The Kubuntu colors/themes are pretty :P hehe
[12:51] <RESiS> can i update with a liveCD?
[12:51] <Pici> RESiS: No. Only with the Alternate CD
[12:51] <RESiS> it's too slow to dl with the manager
[12:51] <RESiS> (~50ko.s-1
[12:51] <milligan_> _2, super + button 5 it seems is the zoom out.
[12:51] <favro> !alternate | RESiS
[12:51] <milligan_> Which button is super, and which is mouse5? :P
[12:51] <cpro> ziroday where is the option of switching mirror
[12:52] <RESiS> oh nice
[12:52] <cpro> ziroday ?????
[12:52] <RESiS> gonna dl it
[12:52] <ziroday> cpro: in System > Administration > Software Sources
[12:52] <dr_willis> !screenlet
[12:52] <DIFH-iceroot> milligan_: windows key = super key
[12:52] <_2> milligan_ hehhe yea   :D
[12:52] <BLaCK_sPy> türkçe bile var mý :P
[12:52] <Pici> !tr | BLaCK_sPy
[12:52] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  that thing seems to be a screenlet, you will need the screenlets package installed.
[12:52] <cpro> ziroday ya i am looking in that but where in software source
[12:52] <BLaCK_sPy> saolasun da orda pek yardýmcý olabilecek kimse yok :D
[12:53] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  and http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/SmoothWeather+Screenlet?content=70086  has install instuctions
[12:53] <milligan_> yay
[12:53] <milligan_> fixed it
[12:53] <ziroday> cpro: the part that says Download From: and then a drop down box
[12:54]  * _2 know'd ya could.
[12:54] <cpro> ziroday ya i got it thanx and i appreciate for ur patience
[12:54] <jorrel> Hi people quick question: I'm installing 8.10 over my 8.04. I want to know which FS is better. I'm thinking between XFS, Reiser and JFS.  I used to use ext3.
[12:54] <bingungajaa> i can't make my cairo-dock working, help me pls
[12:54] <dr_willis> jorrel,  why not stick with ext3?
[12:55] <OxDeadC0de> bingungajaa: if you open a terminal and type: cairo-dock does it work?
[12:55] <jrib> how can I get my isight on a macbook to work on intrepid?
[12:55] <jorrel> maybe
[12:55] <jorrel> I heard its slow
[12:55] <jorrel> that's why
[12:55] <_2> jorrel vfat!      and pico is better than emacs!
[12:55] <runpain2> I am new to this Ubuntu and thank every one here for their help
[12:55] <dr_willis> jorrel,  'heard' but no real  proof? :) i would stick with ext3 unless you have specilized needs.
[12:55] <macvr> hi all... when i upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 will my settings be lost or will it be like the regular upDATES? nothing will be changed in my settings?
[12:55] <mizifih> Anyone know how to properly use nVidia 9600GT on ubuntu?
[12:56] <ziroday> macvr: if you upgrade your settings will be kept in much intact as possible
[12:56] <cabrini> my screen has gone blank but I still have an ssh session. How can I restore the screen?
[12:56] <bingungajaa> OxDeadC0de : no, http://paste.ubuntu.com/65162/
[12:56] <nebul4> Just wondering if anyone can help me with "Errno 5" whilst trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[12:56] <macvr> ziroday: what might change?
[12:57] <ziroday> macvr: very, very little and if it changes anything the updater asks you
[12:57] <_2> cabrini 'reset'  ?
[12:57] <nebul4> anyone?
[12:57] <btavakkoli> hamid_rostami: kojayiee? nemi'binamet :D
[12:57] <macvr> ziroday:k... have u upgraded? have u had any probs?
[12:57] <ziroday> macvr: I have upgraded, and yes I have had problems. However many people haven't. You shouldn't decide on my mileage :)
[12:57] <cabrini> _2, screen is blank, can't right click or anything. I want to be able to see my windows etc again
[12:58] <nebul4> Just wondering if anyone can help me with "Errno 5" whilst trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[12:58] <macvr> ziroday: probs with what? are u using a laptop?are there any probs with synaptic touchpad?
[12:58] <nebul4> :)
[12:58] <_2> cabrini the reset command "might" restore it.   ummm only if the ssh session is in the same tty tho
[12:59] <dany_21a_> nebul4: when do you see that errno 5?
[12:59] <nebul4> at 35%
[12:59] <Dorobo18jp> im trying to move an extracted folder to screenlets in my /usr/lshare/screenlets/  but does not want to save there i getan error Error while moving "SmoothWeather". anyone have any ideas
[12:59] <dany_21a_> nebul4: alternate or normale?
[12:59] <nebul4> The disc is fine and the file is not corrupt, I'm on the Live CD now
[12:59] <nebul4> What do you mean?
[12:59] <_2> cabrini what blanked ?   bios ?   screensaver ?
[12:59] <dany_21a_> nebul4: okay...liveCD answeres that
[13:00] <joh> Hmm, my distribution upgrade seems to have stopped on Configuring mono-apache-server2 :-/ what to do?
[13:00] <cabrini> cabrini, I was on my desktop with firefox open
[13:00] <cabrini> _2, *
[13:00] <WhiteDiesel> my shared network folder mount disappears after reboot.  is there a command to make it load/mount on startup?
[13:00] <nebul4> dany_21a_:  well, booting from the CD -> then clicking Install Ubuntu, fails me at 35%
[13:00] <WhiteDiesel> is it something to do with SAMBA?
[13:00] <cabrini> _2, how do I startx as a different user to root?
[13:00] <flithm> Hey everyone... is there a gnome equivalent to amarok?
[13:00] <ziroday> flithm: exaile
[13:00] <OxDeadC0de> anyone else know why bingungajaa would be getting a bunch of  wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32  errors when starting cairo-dock?
[13:01] <flithm> ziroday: thanks!
[13:01] <_2> cabrini su - username   and startx
[13:01] <mercutio22> xchat is blinking with every keystroke
[13:01] <_2> cabrini or do you mean startx as root ?
[13:01] <mercutio22> whats wrong?
[13:01] <bingungajaa> OxDeadC0de : should i just remove and reinstall the cairo-dock ?
[13:01] <ziroday> mercutio22: its a settings, for more xchat related questions ask in #xchat
[13:02] <macvr>  ziroday: probs with what? are u using a laptop?are there any probs with synaptic touchpad?
[13:02] <OxDeadC0de> bingungajaa: it's worth giving it a try
[13:02] <dany_21a_> nebul4: okay - never saw it happen there... but google knows quite a bit about it: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=%22errno+5%22&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[13:02] <freedumMan> How do i force an automount name?
[13:02] <nebul4> I've already checked with google heh.
[13:02] <emorris> In what file or directory is the 'bookmarks' for nautilus/gnome stored?
[13:02] <cabrini> _2, no I meant as user. I'm on a livecd and I don't want to restart and lose all my settings
[13:02] <mercutio22> ziroday> ok,thanks
[13:02] <lesshaste> firefox no longers starts... it appears to be running but it doesn't actually come up so I can see it
[13:02] <anderson> hello
[13:02] <lesshaste> has anyone seen this?
[13:02] <pppoe_dude> hello. Anyone got vmware working on intrepid? what does the vmware-package package do?
[13:03] <ziroday> macvr: I am using a desktop and all my problem are solved. They are extremely unlikely to affect you as I use a special hardware configuration.
[13:03] <cabrini> _2, what about a command to restart gnome?
[13:03] <bullgard4> What menu item switches on the 'popularity contest' (or similar)?
[13:03] <_2> cabrini might check that "OOMK" isn't the reason your screen blanked.
[13:03] <ziroday> lesshaste: try running it at the command line, what happens?
[13:03] <cabrini> !OOMK
[13:03] <cpro> ziroday its still not showing 8.10 and its giving this error http://pastebin.com/m7d6f5c40 this error was also there in past also
[13:03] <lesshaste> ziroday, it just doesn't start now does it return the prompt.. I can paste the end of strace firefox to #flood if that helps
[13:04] <_2> cabrini sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:04] <jtisme> cabrini, did you know that u can sav your setting to a thumb drive
[13:04] <cabrini> _2, it still has the mouse and the colour of the desktop
[13:04] <macvr> ziroday: was just paranoid since there was a lot of talk a few days ago tht after the release of 8.10 to wait for a montht for the bugs to be sorted out...!   anyway, gonna try it now,,, thanx
[13:04] <anderson> anyone have a bug in theme humam of ubuntu?
[13:04] <cabrini> jtisme, yes I was configuring everything to do that
[13:04] <ziroday> macvr: try the livecd first!
[13:04] <ziroday> lesshaste: one sec
[13:04] <Rob2222> Morning All
[13:04] <Pici> !anyone|  anderson
[13:04] <macvr> ziroday: k...
[13:04] <Rob2222> May I ask a question?
[13:04] <emorris> !ask | Rob2222
[13:04] <ziroday> cpro: don't worry about those warnings. Are you certain that you have "Normal Releases" selected
[13:05] <cabrini> jtisme, I was doing it manually with a shell script though. Are you talking about persistence because that seems too complicated?
[13:05] <_2> cabrini OOMK is the kernels "out of memory kill" sub rutine that starts knocking off things that haven't been active, when you run out of ram.   it's probably not that.  but the live cd can eat ram.
[13:05] <ziroday> lesshaste: what does ps ax | grep firefox give you?
[13:05] <anderson> i hava a bug in the theme humam of ubuntu and need help please
[13:05] <cabrini> _2, it could have been that, how do I tell?
[13:05] <lesshaste> ziroday, 10048 pts/1    Sl+    0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.3/firefox
[13:05] <cpro> ziroday yes
[13:05] <Pici> anderson: Can you explain further?
[13:05] <ziroday> lesshaste: kill that process
[13:05] <jtisme> cabrini, there is a procedure for saving settings to thumb drive on live cd
[13:05] <emorris> ziroday: what's wrong with pgrep firefox?
[13:05] <dany_21a_> nebul4: srry, cant help you on that... you could try the "alternate" install CDs
[13:05] <ziroday> cpro: which repo are you using?
[13:05] <Rob2222> I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 - the VPN settings are greyed out in network manager
[13:05] <lesshaste> ziroday, ok.. now what?
[13:05] <cabrini> jtisme, "persistence"?
[13:05] <ziroday> emorris: nothing at all
[13:05] <cabrini> !persistence
[13:06] <ziroday> lesshaste: try start it again, at the command line and see if there is any output
[13:06]  * Mahrellon is back! Wonder what he's been missing?
[13:06] <_2> cabrini the logfile /var/log/ksyslog  maybe
[13:06] <anderson> when a pass the mouse throught the buttons minimize maximize it disapears
[13:06] <jtisme> cabrini, no settings
[13:06] <prower> i guess i will have to switch back to hardy, without proper udp support in intrepid's kernel it's not usable :<
[13:06] <lesshaste> ziroday, same as before... no output
[13:06] <lesshaste> ziroday, I was hoping strace might help but I don't really understand the output
[13:06] <cpro> ziroday i tried many all are doing the same
[13:06] <emorris> ziroday: it is very bad practice to grep something out of ps ax, since it will grep the grep process, as well as any process which has firefox in its name
[13:07] <_2> cabrini the logfile /var/log/kern.log /var/log/syslog  maybe   sorry.
[13:07] <anderson> whem i change the theme it backs to normal
[13:07] <ziroday> lesshaste: I have had that a couple time. I think I had to restart to get it to work again
[13:07] <cabrini> _2, ubuntu kernel: [ 6964.088924] Xorg[8268]: segfault
[13:07] <ziroday> emorris: certaintly, will remember for next time :)
[13:07] <lesshaste> ziroday, grr.. that's bad! restart the whole system??
[13:07] <ziroday> lesshaste: yep
[13:07] <_2> cabrini there you go.
[13:08] <_2> cabrini x crashed down around your ears.
[13:08] <ziroday> cpro: which repo currently?
[13:08] <lesshaste> ziroday, :( this should be a reported bug I think
[13:08] <cabrini> _2, how do I recover from that or tell what caused it?
[13:08] <jrib> how can I get my isight on a macbook to work on intrepid?
[13:08] <anderson> but the humam theme continued buged
[13:08] <cabrini> jtisme, do you have more information on saving settings to thumbdrive please?
[13:08] <anderson> and sorry for my bad english
[13:08] <cpro> utexas.edu
[13:08] <mercutio22> is anyone else still having trouble with skype in ibex? Would this thread solution still be valid in the case of ibex? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4526841
[13:08] <ziroday> lesshaste: unfortunately there is very little to go on. You can go talk to #ubuntu-mozillateam if you really want to
[13:08] <_2> cabrini i'm not much good with x  it's something i hardly ever use.  maybe ask someone else.
[13:08] <Rob2222> Question for all............................. -> I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 - the VPN settings are greyed out in network manager - what must I do to enable it????  Cheers
[13:08] <cpro> ziroday utexas.edu
[13:09] <lesshaste> ziroday, thanks
[13:09] <ziroday> cpro: exact path?
[13:09] <Junee_moetz> SURABAYA
[13:09] <jtisme> cabrini, google for casper-cow and see what comes up
[13:09] <cabrini> _2, if I startx as root the display is restored but I don't know how to switch to the default `ubuntu` user again (menus deny it)
[13:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade"
[13:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> I have tried upgrading from the net and from CD
[13:10] <_2> cabrini but just speaking from experance.  most of the time if something segfaults  it's a bug either in the app or a lib it uses.
[13:10] <WhiteDiesel> ﻿my shared network folder mount disappears after reboot.  is there a command to make it load/mount on startup? would it have something to do with SAMBA?
[13:10] <lesshaste> ok so now apt-get install is getting stuck at 0%... how do I change the default source it goes to?
[13:10] <cpro> http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu
[13:10] <znag> has anyone gotten the athereos wifi driver to work on the aspire one? The driver manager tells me that the driver must be enabled but it keeps on disabling on a reboot. I tried blacklisting ath_pci and ath_hal in /etc/modules but that does not seem to help
[13:10] <Rob2222> We need a "Now Serving" :)
[13:10] <cpro> ziroday http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu
[13:10] <erUSUL> !fstab | WhiteDiesel
[13:10] <ziroday> cpro: I see it
[13:10] <cpro> ziroday ok
[13:10] <Rob2222> This reminds me of the old DTV days :)
[13:11] <Hondo_Kitsune> znag: switching to Ubuntu eeeEdition might work. I know it is an OS voerhaul, but it is designed for eee PCs
[13:11] <ziroday> cpro: it says that there is an archive update in progress, which is odd. Try us.archive.ubuntu.com as your repo
[13:11] <cpro> ziroday ok
[13:11] <adrianoc> a i set the vinagre to ubuntu ? i want to reduce then number of colores it to be faster.
[13:11] <znag> oh yeah having the problem on ibex, i used the compiled madwifi drivers in 8.04 that always worked
[13:12] <Atomic_UE> in case anyone else asks/cares 8.10 installs/works fine on sata. Not that I don't think it wouldn't, but someone asked earlier today
[13:12] <benjo> hello everybody, I have a problem on my macbook
[13:12] <Rob2222> Any try the VPN setting s in 8.10 - my are greyed out????????????
[13:12] <apinunt> On a friends notebook with WinXP preinstalled, we added an external drive and installed ubuntu 6.06 and later 7.04. After formatting the 6.06 partition and installing 8.04 we could no longer boot any OS. No longer wanting WinXP we put the external drive in the notebook, but are still having problems booting and have managed to get it booted by trying to boot the external WinXP OS which fails...
[13:12] <apinunt> ...but somehow brings up Ubuntu 8.04 on the internal drive. We wish to backup the existing /home partition, but cannot write to an external 500GB drive. Both the internal drive and the external drive are showing to be sdb1 for some reason. Any help on this?
[13:12] <BoltClock> im in progress of upgrading to intrepid, and update manager just popped me asking if i want to replace my modified /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh, this is the diff it reported: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65166 but i have never touched the file directly. should i replace it anyway or do i have to make some checks?
[13:12] <eprimo2> ola
[13:12] <benjo> I installed ubuntu 8.10 but rEfit doesn't work
[13:12] <eprimo2> a todos
[13:13] <jtisme> cabrini, did you find the info on casper-cow
[13:13] <neoice> where does compiz log to?
[13:13] <neoice> benjo: can you be more specific with refit? I've used it on debian
[13:13] <anderson> #ubuntu-br
[13:13] <eprimo2> ESTOU NASCENDO HJ PARA O MUNDO LINUX
[13:13] <Rob2222> VPN  - greyed out in 8.10 ?????? anyone????
[13:13] <neoice> benjo: is the refit bootloader starting?
[13:13] <ziroday> BoltClock: you should be fine, dpkg also saves the old version for you
[13:13] <Technoviking> Rob2222: think you need to install a vpn backend
[13:13] <eprimo2> SERA QUE ALGUEM PODERIA ME AJUDAR ????
[13:14] <jrib> !pt | eprimo2
[13:14] <erUSUL> !pt | eprimo2
[13:14] <BoltClock> ziroday: where does it save the old copy?
[13:14] <Rob2222> Technoviking - I though t it was included in 8.10???
[13:14] <cabrini> jtisme, yeah it is persistence. I prefer my manual script
[13:14] <cpro> ziroday i am not able to see that in server list
[13:14] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade"
[13:14] <eprimo2> OK
[13:14] <Hondo_Kitsune> I have tried upgrading from the net and from CD
[13:14] <ziroday> BoltClock: in the same dir, under the same name except with .dpkg-old appended to the end
[13:14] <jtisme> cabrini, k
[13:15] <ziroday> cpro: it should be "Server from USA" or something like that
[13:15] <natalisushka> Hi, I've been upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 and I got some problems with internet connection that lead to some broken packages. my main issue now is that I can't login to the system, I am stuck at the login screen with keyboard not functioning, nor usb mouse (only mouse pad). The only thing that works with the laptop is the caps lock, it swtiches the light on and off. I have access to the recovery mode but with no inter
[13:15] <neoice> anyone know if/where compiz logs to?
[13:15] <Technoviking> Rob2222: try sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc or sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[13:15] <Rob2222> Technoviking - let me try - stand by please :)
[13:16] <Sylphid|work> is it possible in a multi head setup to have each head display a separate workspace from the same instance of X and preferably be able to switch them independently from the other heads?
[13:16] <cabrini> can I easily make my own copies of a livecd?
[13:16] <wollinger> Hi!
[13:16] <neoice> cabrini: if you have a CD burner, probably
[13:16] <Hammer89> anyone else having issues with wifi not working after coming out of standby?
[13:16] <ziroday> cabrini: what do you mean, modified or direct copies?
[13:16] <erUSUL> cabrini: yes just like any other cd
[13:16] <natalisushka> macpo3: Hey, it's me again (natalisushka) .. I didn't succeed :/
[13:16] <jtisme> cabrini, k3b does that
[13:16] <cabrini> can I modify files and then burn the copy?
[13:17] <tARrAScH> Hammer89 , yea, but only solution I found was not go into any power saving mode :(
[13:17] <kriston> THANK YOU for the person who put the note about DVD releases only having extra language files.  I was wondering why it took so long to remove packages after installation and I didn't even have any more packages installed.  Kudos!
[13:17] <natalisushka> Hi, I've been upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 and I got some problems with internet connection that lead to some broken packages. my main issue now is that I can't login to the system, I am stuck at the login screen with keyboard not functioning, nor usb mouse (only mouse pad). The only thing that works with the laptop is the caps lock, it swtiches the light on and off. I have access to the recovery mode but with no inter
[13:17] <cabrini> ziroday, modified
[13:17] <Rob2222> Tehnoviking - your the King !   Cheers BUD!
[13:17] <neoice> I know the compiz-extras arent supported, but where can I start looking to figure out why they might be broken?
[13:17] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: hrm... that's frustrating... do you know if it's been reported yet?
[13:17] <ziroday> cabrini: as long as you know what you are doing, of course
[13:17] <tARrAScH> Hammer89: No idea, sorry
[13:17] <WhiteDiesel> ﻿ubottu:  Thanks.  doesn't really tell me much about my question.  or maybe i'm not understanding.
[13:18] <cabrini> ziroday, there's not an integrity checking system?
[13:18] <ziroday> cabrini: not if you have modified it
[13:18] <neoice> cabrini: why would there be?
[13:18] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: Alrighty... I'll check when I get back from my next flight... if not, I'll report it
[13:18] <neoice> there's checksumming to make sure the data is what you think it is
[13:18] <cabrini> neoice: to stop corrupt cds from booting
[13:18] <wollinger> Hi everybody. I've got a question: With 8.10, is LVM now part of the desktop-CD or is it still only available on the alternate-cd?
[13:18] <neoice> corrupt CDs just wont boot :P
[13:18] <netyire> hi all, I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 with a 8.10 disc on hand, is it possible to use the disc to upgrade instead of letting the package manager fetch the packages from the internet?
[13:18] <ziroday> cabrini: if you modify it the checksum changes
[13:19] <ziroday> netyire: only if its the alternate disc
[13:19] <cpro> ziroday is it server for united states ???
[13:19] <cabrini> ziroday, I have to recalculate and modify the checksum?
[13:19] <ziroday> cpro: yes
[13:19] <WhiteDiesel> bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[13:19] <Atomic_UE> does ubottu have anything on full disk encryption?
[13:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[13:19] <cpro> ziroday ya i did that bfore
[13:19] <ziroday> cabrini: of course. You have modified the cd. things have changed
[13:19] <natalisushka> Hi, I've been upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 and I got some problems with internet connection that lead to some broken packages. my main issue now is that I can't login to the system, I am stuck at the login screen with keyboard not functioning, nor usb mouse (only mouse pad). The only thing that works with the laptop is the caps lock, it swtiches the light on and off. I have access to the recovery mode but with no inter
[13:19] <Junee_moetz> surabaya
[13:19] <velko> WhiteDiesel: in order to persist changes for shared folders they have to be listed in a file called fstab. the link ubotu gave you is about how to edit this file
[13:19] <netyire> ziroday: uh oh, looks like I downloaded the wrong one; how do you go about using the alternate install disc to update the system?
[13:20] <cpro> ziroday i will try one more time
[13:20] <Bigmack83_> how would i rebuild my video drivers? i cant get the proper resolution anymore. im running with 640x480. my restricted drivers are already in use
[13:20] <WhiteDiesel> velko: bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied
[13:20] <ziroday> !upgrade | netyire it should say here
[13:20] <velko> WhiteDiesel: this is a system file and is writable only for the administrator
[13:20] <ziroday> cpro: make sure you update after changing
[13:20] <WhiteDiesel> velko:  which i am
[13:20] <velko> WhiteDiesel: how do you try to edit the file?
[13:20] <ziroday> cpro: then open up update manager with gksu "update-manager -c"
[13:21] <netyire> ziroday: will look it up; thanks! =-P
[13:21] <favro> !sudo | WhiteDiesel
[13:21] <cpro> ziroday ya i did but still it says system is update
[13:21] <ziroday> cpro: what does do-release-upgrade say?
[13:21] <velko> WhiteDiesel: press "alt+f2" and type "gksu gedit /etc/fstab" in order to edit it
[13:21] <jsquared> how do I tell what version of Ubuntu is running on a particular machine if I have access to the command prompt?
[13:21] <thomc> I have a 500gb drive formatted as ext3. Nautilus shows only 435gb free space (the drive is empty). Why is this?
[13:21] <WhiteDiesel> velko:  obviously i have no idea what i'm doing.  :'(
[13:21] <jrib> !version | jsquared
[13:22] <jsquared> jrib: thanks!
[13:22] <Atomic_UE> whats the site ubottu's list of topics?
[13:22] <dr_willis> thomc,  5% is reserved for emergancy lost+found space and use by root... thats customizeble
[13:22] <ziroday> !factoid | Atomic_UE
[13:22] <Atomic_UE> ty
[13:22] <outbackwifi> !hi
[13:22] <WhiteDiesel> velko:  ok.
[13:22] <thomc> Thank you dr_willis. How would I go about changing that?
[13:22] <cpro> ziroday i cant see any release update thing anyware in my update manager
[13:22] <Dorobo18jp> any one tell me how to extract a file to a specific director ?
[13:22] <jrib> how can I get my isight on a macbook (santa rosa) to work on intrepid amd64?
[13:22] <WhiteDiesel> velko:  the network shared folder is not listed
[13:22] <natalisushka> !Hi, I've been upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 and I got some problems with internet connection that lead to some broken packages. my main issue now is that I can't login to the system, I am stuck at the login screen with keyboard not functioning, nor usb mouse (only mouse pad). The only thing that works with the laptop is the caps lock, it swtiches the light on and off. I have access to the recovery mode but with no inte
[13:23] <sanguisdex> any one have any reviews of project/time management or a good channel to discuss them?
[13:23] <jrib> Dorobo18jp: how are you extracting?
[13:23] <ziroday> cpro: in the command line what does do-release-upgrade say?
[13:23] <jsquared> thomc: 500 GB is 465 GiB (disk space is reported in GiB, not GB). then there's 5% on top of that reserved, which is another 25 GB, and then some is overhead for the file system. all together that puts you at about 435
[13:23] <Dorobo18jp> right clicking exctract
[13:23] <jrib> Dorobo18jp: extract it and then copy.  Or use the command line
[13:23] <ferronica> what it mean ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64 ?
[13:23] <thomc> jsquared: ok thanks
[13:23] <Ryan450> good morning all. has anybody else had issues enabling the nvidia hardware driver? mine just stays at 0% for downloading and installing. :(
[13:24] <ziroday> jrib: have you seen this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook?
[13:24] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[13:24] <velko> WhiteDiesel: then you have to insert an entry for it. unfortunately i'm at work right now and cannot pull the exact syntax out of my head. either use the link ubottu gave you or ask here what do you have to put in the file
[13:24] <emorris> I have an external hard disk with a ext2 partition, but when I plug this in, I want certain permissions set. Should I do this in fstab, mtab or something else?
[13:24] <jrib> ferronica: version 8.10, desktop cd (not alternate), and it's 64bit
[13:24] <WhiteDiesel> velko: thanks.
[13:24] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: try to boot with the LiveCD (the normal installation CD), and write back if you have started
[13:24] <outbackwifi> !intrepid
[13:25] <Dorobo18jp> jrib it wont let me paste it in the directory
[13:25] <jsquared> when the list of changes isn't available from the update manager, is there a place I can go to view it manually?
[13:25] <ferronica_> jrib: amd stands for ?
[13:25] <cpro> ziroday this is the output http://pastebin.com/m3d207426
[13:25] <jrib> ziroday: yep, but it's outdated :/  Apparently it's supposed to work with uvcvideo driver in the new kernel :/
[13:26] <jrib> ferronica_: amd64 means 64bit
[13:26] <Yimpolo> Buh... I'm using the screen command and I don't know how to kill windows I've created >_>
[13:26] <ziroday> cpro: then there is an update, gksu "update-manager -c" should list it
[13:26] <nikitis> ferronica, amd = advanced micro devices.
[13:26] <velko> Yimpolo: "ctrl+a d"
[13:26] <jrib> jsquared: apt-get source package and read debian/changelog would be one way
[13:26] <ferronica_> jrib: amd means??
[13:26] <Yimpolo> Oh....
[13:27] <blip-> hi, just noticed NTFS is bieng mounted with write ability by default on Kubuntu 8.04...   that's not very safe...
[13:27] <kcrly> xkill
[13:27] <WhiteDiesel> velko/ubottu:  i don't think thats what i'm looking for but thanks.
[13:27] <jrib> ferronica_: I told you.  amd64 means 64bit.  That's just what it is called for historical reasons
[13:27] <ferronica_> jrib: amd = amd system only ?
[13:27] <ziroday> jrib: I thought it would be, you had obviously done the google search before. My bad
[13:27] <Frozen-Solid> okay so I'm using Ubuntu Server Edition 8.04 on a brand new bladecenter production environment. I've never used ubuntu before until last week when we got this setup up and running.  What is the best, most reliable, and least downtime required way to upgrade to 8.10? Is 8.04 to 8.10 an upgrade we should be eager to move to, or is 8.04 good enough to run in production for a while?
[13:27] <jrib> ferronica_: no
[13:27] <cpro> ziroday  gksu "update-manager -c" is the command right ??
[13:27] <kriston> blip-: NTFS write access has been working for years.
[13:27] <ziroday> cpro: correct
[13:27] <jsquared> ferronica_: amd64 is just the name of the specification for 64-bit architectures (they invented it)
[13:27] <Yimpolo> Okay
[13:27] <ferronica_> jrib: amd has no full form ?
[13:27] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I am in LiveCD. What do you mean write back if I have started?
[13:27] <jrib> ferronica_: I don't understand your question
[13:27]  * outbackwifi wouldnt upgrade a LTS from production environment
[13:27] <Yimpolo> Ctrl+a d just detaches me from the session... that's not what I want >_>
[13:27] <ferronica_> jrib: okay
[13:28] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: you there?
[13:28] <tARrAScH> Hammer89: Yes
[13:28] <cabrini> damn, modifying a livecd is harder than I guessed
[13:28] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: Is it possible to fix this here? From LIVECD?
[13:28] <nikitis> jrib, ferronica is trying to ascertain if amd64 bit will work with intel 64 bit.
[13:28] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: okay... yes, it should be
[13:28] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: how?
[13:28] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: open a console
[13:28] <Frozen-Solid> Yimpolo: what are you trying to do?
[13:28] <outbackwifi> Frozen-Solid: id suggest you stick to 8.04 because its a longterm Support edition; 8.10 will last only for 6 months
[13:28] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I am there
[13:28] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: are you using an atheros wifi card?
[13:28] <Kaigeos> I'm using Intrepid now, I really like it. :)
[13:28] <jrib> ferronica_: yes, amd64 works on intel as well
[13:28] <velko> Yimpolo: sorry. my bad. just type "exit" in the window
[13:28] <Yimpolo> I'm actually connected to my box via SSH, I ran the screen command to have multiple consoles going at once
[13:28] <Frozen-Solid> outbackwifi: 8.10 says it'll be supported til 2010
[13:29] <ziroday> jrib: have you seen this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/251838 and have you got isight-firmware-tools installed?
[13:29] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: do you know the partion which holds the / (root) filesystem of your installed system
[13:29] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: then?
[13:29] <Yimpolo> Just need to know how to close some of the consoles
[13:29] <Frozen-Solid> outbackwifi: and we're ont doing any support contracts as of yet, for now we're self-supporting
[13:29] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: dont hurry :)
[13:29] <Yimpolo> exit? >_> Should've thought of that
[13:29] <mathias__> have a problem here, after upgrading to 8.10 samba wont work as i should, think its releated to 81.0 upgrade. The problem is that i mount some shares on boot via fstab and before the upgrade it worked as i should but after it mounts all shares BUT one ... that one wont mount. If i monunt it manually via a termnial window it works ...havent changed anything in fstab or on the client, also the upgrade asked me if i want new smb.conf
[13:29] <mathias__>  or keep the old one and i choosed to keep the old one ... any ckues ??
[13:29] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: yes
[13:29] <tARrAScH> Hammer89: I have no idea, I wasnt even knowing there was something called 'wifi card' :p
[13:29] <emorris> I have an external hard disk with a ext2 partition, but when I plug this in, I want certain permissions set. Should I do this in fstab, mtab or something else?
[13:29] <Yimpolo> D'oh! typing exit works xD Thanks velko.
[13:29] <Pici> !amd64 | ferronica_
[13:29] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: lol... I just tried this: http://tinyurl.com/652ttm and it fixed my problem
[13:29] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: mount it, if its not already mounted in /media
[13:29] <nikitis> jrib, I can see how that would be misleading though.  They could easily lable it just 64-bit, or emt/amd64
[13:29] <irfan> hi
[13:29] <cabrini> how can I check how much memory is free, specifically on a livecd?
[13:29] <prince_jammys> Yimpolo: C-a k
[13:29] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: might be worth a try for you too
[13:29] <kcrly> hi
[13:29] <outbackwifi> Frozen-Solid: you're the boss; i can only advise :)
[13:30] <r3z`> cabrini, top
[13:30] <DIFH-iceroot> cabrini: free -m
[13:30] <prince_jammys> Yimpolo: or yeah, exit.
[13:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: it's mounted
[13:30] <OxDeadC0de> how do i create the guest account in 8.10? I upgraded from 8.04 and it never showed up
[13:30] <irfan> i am new on this
[13:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I have access to it
[13:30] <Frozen-Solid> outbackwifi: i don't even konw if we're upgrading yet, i'm just supposed to look into the "best" way to upgrade
[13:30] <jsquared> nikitis: well, the convention is to use the name of the architecture that the package is compiled against
[13:30] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: then "sudo chroot" into it
[13:30] <tARrAScH> Hammer89: actually I got worse problems after returning from a hibernate/stand by, computer works like 10x slower
[13:30] <Frozen-Solid> will apt-get distro upgrade or whatever hte command is do a good safe job?
[13:30] <jsquared> nikitis: also, there's more than one "64-bit" implementation of things
[13:30] <Yimpolo> These command line clients are hard on the eyes
[13:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: Ok
[13:30] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: have internet connection in LiveCD mode?
[13:30] <nikitis> ferronica_, amd64 bit term comes from old die-hard programmers who at one time only had amd for 64 bit.  As intel was late.
[13:30] <outbackwifi> Frozen-Solid: yes
[13:30] <Hammer89> tARrAScH: ew... not cool
[13:30] <Frozen-Solid> on Mandriva i've always did a full format and reinstall, with the exception of my /home partition, but obviously that's not an ideal way for a prod environment
[13:30] <ferronica__> jrib: my confusion cleared thanx :) just downloaded 64bit booted via ubuntu CD on option window when i select 1 option just hanged:(
[13:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I am using it
[13:30] <ziroday> Frozen-Solid: the recommendation for those questions is always stay on the LTS, unless there is something you need in a non-lts release. You can ask for more in #ubuntu-server and the best way to upgrade on the server is running sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:30] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: true :)
[13:31] <jrib> ziroday: yep, but it fails to extract my copy of AppleUSBVideoSupport.  So I never get a isight.fw file.  I was hoping this wasn't needed though.  There's a report from a macbook air user, that his isight works with the uvcvideo driver and doesn't mention running anything
[13:31] <cpro> cpro its not working this is the error Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[13:31] <nikitis> jsquared, True, which is why my first suggestion should be labeled as just "64-bit"
[13:31] <cabrini> DIFH-iceroot, thanks
[13:31] <Frozen-Solid> ziroday: awesome thanks. didn't realize there was a server chan
[13:31] <jsquared> nikitis: hmmm... I'm pretty sure it comes from the name of the architecture, not from "die-hard programmers"
[13:31] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than try just aptitude update/upgrade and see what happens
[13:31] <Dorobo18jp> ok does any know or a weather screenlet or desklet that works ?
[13:31] <esay> hi
[13:31] <DIFH-iceroot> cabrini: np
[13:31] <ziroday> jrib: well thats all I had. Good luck
[13:31] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: aha!
[13:31] <|ns|nR8> how many MB will my connection have to download to upgrade distro from 8.04
[13:31] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: and that's iut?
[13:31] <jrib> ziroday: thanks
[13:31] <komotheit> Frozen-Solid: The best way to upgrade will always be to use the Alternate CD as a repository, shut down access to ubuntu servers, then use the distro upgrade command.
[13:31] <Frozen-Solid> after an upgrade, i'm assuming a quick init 0 and restart of the server is best?
[13:31] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: if it works... yes
[13:31] <jrib> |ns|nR8: depends on what you have installed
[13:31] <jsquared> nikitis: ia64 packages are 64-bit, for example, but you don't want those if you're running a desktop machine
[13:31] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: and that's it* that should do the work?
[13:31] <nikitis> jsquared, I'm just saying, you will always get that question asked until it is renamed
[13:32] <|ns|nR8> ah k jrib
[13:32] <Dusk_Bey> i have a legacy nvidia card and have problems with 8.10. how can i rollback to 8.04 again??is there a way??
[13:32] <esay> I have a problem at 8.10 version
[13:32] <K-O-D> I am unable to get the nvidia accelerated graphics driver working
[13:32] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  thheres also the google 'widgets' you can get :)
[13:32] <K-O-D> how do I go about doing this?
[13:32] <jrib> Dusk_Bey: no, you have to reinstall if that's really what you want to do
[13:32] <esay> my graphics card is ge force mx4000
[13:32] <esay> and
[13:32] <mathias__> did anyone say something to me due the samba problem .. didnt see .... sorry
[13:32] <Pici> !enter | esay
[13:32] <nikitis> jsquared, Yes, but better names are needed for less confusion.  I'm not saying I disagree as to why they are named that way, but it is none-the-less, confusing to the general public.
[13:32] <velko> natalisushka: you have to chroot to the directory where your installation is mounted first. else you'll "apt-get update" the live session
[13:32] <jsquared> nikitis: I guess that's true
[13:32] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  thheres a weather applet for the gnome panel also
[13:32] <Frozen-Solid> komotheit: oh. that's an interesting idea
[13:33] <sea> hello?
[13:33] <MaT-dg> Do I have to create a partition for the swap file when manually partitioning in a 8.10 install?
[13:33] <Frozen-Solid> not sure if that's important though... we've got pretty crazy redundancy here
[13:33] <Dorobo18jp> you would not have a link to that kind Dr?
[13:33] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko I am now inside the installed system, I typed sudo chroot /media/disk and got root@ubuntu: .. BUT
[13:33] <slobad23> any of you lovely people out there like to help me out by pointing me towards some ebooks our websites for ubuntu server basics please :)
[13:33] <cpro> ziroday its not working this is the error Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[13:33] <Dusk_Bey> jrib, thanx
[13:33] <nikitis> jsquared, unfortunately, us die-hard original linux users must give up such ways if linux is to go mainstream.  We can thank M$ for that.
[13:33] <dr_willis> Dorobo18jp,  google.com for the google things. gnome panel has one allready installed
[13:33] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko sudo apt-get update doesn't seem to connect to the internet :/
[13:33] <nikitis> jsquared, for dumbing down the public that is.
[13:34] <ziroday> cpro: so you see an upgrade now?
[13:34] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: what does it say?
[13:34] <komotheit> Frozen-Solid: When I went to upgrade via the web, my 7.10 box all crashed down because of the problems with the upgrade. Since then, I always use the alternate CD.
[13:34] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: maybe check /etc/apt/sources.conf
[13:34] <sea> i am a pig
[13:34] <velko> natalisushka: could you pastebin the content for your /etc/network/interfaces
[13:34] <sea> :)
[13:34] <znh> Hello. I'm searching for some application that can adjust my laptop's screen brightness. I had this in Gnome, but im in Xfce now
[13:34] <ziroday> sea: tell us all about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:34] <znh> Please, suggestions/advice
[13:35] <nikitis> Sea, congratulations
[13:35] <ziroday> znh: you find it best to ask in #xubuntu
[13:35] <znh> ziroday, ill try that
[13:35] <cpro> ziroday can u please tell me the exact command that i have to type
[13:35] <velko> znh: you can use the exactly same applet in xfce
[13:35] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: one minute, pastebin doesn't work for some reason
[13:35] <nikitis> I'm impressed with the new speed of the upgrade servers.
[13:35] <natalisushka> velko: also one minute
[13:35] <znh> velko, how?
[13:35] <jurism> Hi! Can You tell me please how to list all files and filesizes in directory? Thank You!
[13:35] <sea> haha.
[13:35] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: http://pastebin.ru/298053
[13:35] <Pici> jurism: ls -lh
[13:36] <ziroday> cpro: to upgrade? for a gui do gksu "update-manager -c" for a cli type sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:36] <dev_> does anyone have any idea of my current technical problem: My ping/traceroutes request is topnotch performance, but its still very slow. This problem persist both in WinXP and Ubuntu so I can exclude the OS behing an issue. I'm using DSL
[13:36] <Oprtz> Just install the new ubuntu 8.10 and i am loving it, i want to ask that the screen resoultion of ubuntu at the time of login screen is (1280X960), i want to change it to regular (1024x768), need help thanks
[13:36] <jurism> thank You!
[13:36] <prince_jammys> slobad23: apt-get install ubuntu-serverguide, and access it with a web browser in /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/C/index.html
[13:36] <esay> my graphics card is Geforce mx4000 and there isn't driver for 8.10
[13:36] <velko> znh: there is a "gnome compatibility" applet  in xfce. it is just a container for whatever gnome applet you wish to start
[13:36] <natalisushka> velko: should i paste the interfaces output under chroot of the isntalled system?
[13:36] <znh> velko, how do I get that?
[13:36] <Frozen-Solid> komotheit: /join #ubuntu-server
[13:36] <Frozen-Solid> erm
[13:36] <prower> is anyone playing etqw in intrepid successfully?
[13:36] <slobad23> prince_jammys: thanks a lot :)
[13:36]  * Frozen-Solid fails
[13:36] <velko> natalisushka: yes. the installed system, please
[13:36] <alexvanlier> does anyone know why my geforce fx5500 driver won't enable?
[13:36] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: if you try to ping one of that unresolvable hosts (inside and outside the chroot) what happens?
[13:37] <sanguisdex> where is JDK  installed by defualt?
[13:37] <velko> znh: to get what? it should be installed by default
[13:37] <prince_jammys> slobad23: welcome. at last that's the directory where i have the html files installed
[13:37] <tsb> In Arch, gnome 2.24's session-manger isn't working. Moreover, when I click log out, all the apps are simply killed and not properly shut down. Is this a problem in ubuntu 8.10 as well? (if it is, I'll stay at 8.04.1)
[13:37] <bingungajaa> this morning, my nvidia driver can't be activated, but now it activated it self , what happenned ?
[13:37] <Oprtz> Just install the new ubuntu 8.10 and i am loving it, i want to ask that the screen resoultion of ubuntu at the time of login screen is (1280X960), i want to change it to regular (1024x768), need help thanks
[13:37] <sea> I dont know
[13:37] <Pici> esay: Correct, the geforce4 series does not have a proprietary driver in 8.10, see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[13:37] <teamcobra> hrmm, I've installed intrepid final and I still can't seem to get the "Create a USB Startup Disk" to work..... it hangs at "Starting Up"
[13:37] <prower> hmm...is anyone playing any first person shooter in intrepid successfully? :P
[13:38] <cpro> ziroday ya i did cli its working i think so
[13:38] <esay> Pici  thank you
[13:38] <slobad23> prince_jammys: does it cover what i need to know from scratch, or does it assume a lot of technical knowledge?
[13:38] <teamcobra> prower, I could probably fire up some openarena, but I'm at work
[13:38] <cpro> ziroday thanx a lot
[13:38] <jrib> tsb: how are you determining the apps are not properly shut down?
[13:38] <alexvanlier> does anyone know why my geforce fx5500 driver won't enable?
[13:38] <prince_jammys> slobad23: i don't remember :)
[13:38] <prower> teamcobra: so far etqw, nexuiz, openarena and urban terror are all not working
[13:38] <prince_jammys> slobad23: check it out. it's just a bunch of documentation
[13:38] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko I am using wireless connection on this LIVE CD, but I guess the interfaces are different with the installed system http://pastebin.ru/298054
[13:39] <nikitis> GeForce 4 - 5 series is old.  It is time for an upgrade of PC.  And I don't think that is asking much.
[13:39] <slobad23> prince_jammys: you know what, i just might do that! as soon as my 8.10 installation is finished :)
[13:39] <prower> teamcobra: intrepid is sending out udp packets with incorrect checksums and the games cannot connect
[13:39] <sliverchair> any complete tutorial/guide on compiling tar.gz on Ubuntu?
[13:39] <Oprtz> Just install the new ubuntu 8.10 and i am loving it, i want to ask that the screen resoultion of ubuntu at the time of login screen is (1280X960), i want to change it to regular (1024x768), need help thanks
[13:39] <MaT-dg> after partitioning in a 8.10 installation (step 4 of 7) it says "no root file system is defined   Please correct this from the partitioning menu" when I click 'forward'.
[13:39] <sea> how can play ape file?
[13:39] <teamcobra> prower: d'oh!
[13:39] <jrib> sliverchair: you try to avoid them.  Check if what you want is in the repositories first
[13:39] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: So you want me to ping: ua.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[13:39] <bahadunn> sliverchair: usually just untar, ./configure, make, make install
[13:39] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: yes
[13:39] <jrib> !compile > sliverchair
[13:39] <prince_jammys> slobad23: it covers installation, etc. it's also available on the web, but it's practical to have it saved locally
[13:39] <bahadunn> sliverchair: depends on the software package though
[13:39] <prower> teamcobra: Yeah, this is a showstopper :< Sort of like the cd/dvd tray bug except worse
[13:39] <bingungajaa> nikitis : does nvidia geforece 8600 supported for special effect ? earlier it won't work, but now yes, confused
[13:39] <sliverchair> jrib: yeah I always do aptitude
[13:40] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: should not interfere with the network-setup... afaik
[13:40] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: under live CD's system it's connected
[13:40] <tsb> Can someone using 8.10 verify that when you log out of gnome, applications are properly closed?
[13:40] <prower> at least the cd/dvd tray bug can be fixed
[13:40] <jrib> tsb: did you see my question?
[13:40] <nikitis> bingungajaa, i hope so, because i have an 8600 GT, and it had better work.
[13:40] <stelt> Where can i see an overview of my hardware capabilities?
[13:40] <rockyrock> I installed the Nvidia driver (the one from nvidia.com) but it appears that i have some problems with the graphics. When i try to resize the System Monitor's window, it does this slowly, i.e i see like the shadows of the window. What's the problem?? I have nvidia 8500GT
[13:40] <tsb> jrib, no
[13:40] <jrib> tsb: how are you determining the apps are not properly shut down?
[13:40] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: under the installed system it takes a while before it responds then 	ping: unknown host ua.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <sliverchair> bahadunn: so that's where it complicates, not all packages are simple
[13:40] <nikitis> bingungajaa, did you restart after doing so?
[13:40] <rockyrock> i don't know if there are other steps i have to do
[13:40] <velko> dany_21a_: she uses wireless on the live cd and used to use wired on the broken install. maybe this is the reason the chrooted install cannot connect. but i'm really not sure
[13:41] <sea> how can I play APE music files? any help?
[13:41] <runpain2> Hello i still have a problem understanding wireless driver installation can some one Help me with step by step Please
[13:41] <bingungajaa> nikitis : u haven't try it yet ? , yes i restart, firstly i even can't enable the driver, but finally it goes well itself, strange
[13:41] <tsb> jrib, well, none of them saves their settings; firefox starts up with the crash-handler after logging in, xchat I had to quit manually otherwise I had to enter the favchannels etc everytime
[13:41] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: compare the /etc/resolv.conf inside and outside the chroot
[13:41] <OxDeadC0de> anybody know how to create the Guest account in 8.10? I upgraded from 8.04 and it's not there
[13:41] <stepha> _21h_ YOU ARE A RUSSIAN
[13:41] <nikitis> bingungajaa, and what driver version are you using?
[13:41] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  sudo adduser guest    ?
[13:41] <jrib> tsb: let me log out with firefox, one sec
[13:41] <tsb> jrib, note, this is in archlinux, NOT ubuntu. but I really hate that so if it is the same in ubuntu 8.10 and gnome 2.24 there I'll just stay at 8.04 and gnome 2.22
[13:41] <runpain2> Please
[13:42] <natalisushka> velko: yes, I guess it's because of that. Do you think changing the interfaces of the installed system might solve it?
[13:42] <tsb> jrib, cool, thanks.
[13:42] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: velko i always thought, network stuff is just handled by the running OS, not depending where you are chrooted... but it seems,, resolving is done dependend on that
[13:42] <KingFisher> test
[13:42] <sea> test what?
[13:42] <bingungajaa> nikitis : 177
[13:42] <gregge> I tried running the proprietary nvidia drivers, but when I tried to activate them it didn't download anything
[13:42] <velko> natalisushka: you may try to sync the installed "interfaces" with the live cd file
[13:42] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: you could try to ping the ip from inside the chroot which you get from the outside-chroot ping
[13:42] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko , any idea how I can connect to the wireless connection on the installed system?
[13:42] <nikitis> bingungajaa, does it work now and stay working?
[13:43] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis should I then chmod u-w /home/guest ?
[13:43] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: that should be connected... try above
[13:43] <prower> anyone else notice that their cd/dvd tray rapidly closes after you eject it? :<
[13:43] <bingungajaa> nikitis : yah, strange huh ??
[13:43] <_21h_> stepha, and?
[13:43] <KingFisher> i installed linux for first time couple weeks ago!! it was ubuntu!
[13:43] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  why would you want to do that?
[13:43] <prower> makes burning in brasero impossible
[13:43] <_21h_> stepha, what you want?
[13:43] <nikitis> bingungajaa, probably the restart did it.
[13:43] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: please explain more! :/
[13:43] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: what must I do again?
[13:43] <nikitis> bingungajaa, did you use envy?  Or natural ubuntu?
[13:43] <_21h_> stepha, yes, i'm russian. problems?
[13:43] <jrib> tsb: yep, firefox says it was closed unexpectedly.  This is probably related as to why I can't get my sessions to save too.  I remember reading a bug on launchpad that pointed upstream regarding gnome-session and the inability to save sessions
[13:43] <OxDeadC0de> to make it so guests can't save anything and can only use it as a web browser?
[13:44] <bingungajaa> nikitis : what do u mean ?
[13:44] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: ping from outside of chroot gave you an IP... ping that directly from inside the chroot
[13:44] <runpain2> i have a HP Pavilion dv6747cl laptop it uses amd turion64x2 anthreos wireless chip
[13:44] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: if that works, only the resolver (dns) has problems
[13:44] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  why does it matter?  There are Koisk type extensions for firefox if you just want a 'web koisk' box.
[13:44] <tsb> jrib, yes, this is correct. gnome is basically released with 2 horrible, showstopper bugs IMO.
[13:44] <nikitis> bingungajaa, There are 3 ways to install nvidia drivers, 1.) manually (best way if you know how to do it) 2.) via ubuntu after install, or 3.) 3rd party called envy.
[13:44] <runpain2> !wireless
[13:44] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: by the way, I am able to scan wireless connections on the installed system! Can that work if I try to connect to the internet using command line?
[13:44] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis I don't, I just want it to have a guest session as advertised for when I let people use my laptop ;)
[13:45] <runpain2> i tried that
[13:45] <erry> Hello i have ati radeon - graphics don't work properly. i have the closed-source driver installed and enabled, but still screen blinks in ANY 3D app. Anyway to FIX this?
[13:45] <lucas2> does anybody remember the name of the program that lets you open a port from the commandline, and see if somebody connects to it?
[13:45] <dp_> I seem to have lost my compiz preference manager from the preferences tab.  how can I get it back?
[13:45] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  ive never seen a guest session advertised.. except on the live cds I just make a guest account for them to use on my installed systems
[13:45] <lucas2> trying to debug a ssh tunnelling problem.
[13:45] <velko> natalisushka: i guess it will. but i don't know enought about wireless to assist you
[13:45] <erry> plz highlight me if u have an answer for me
[13:45] <erry> ok?
[13:45] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: when i ping the IP that appears with ua.archive.ubuntu.com inside chroot It looks like connected
[13:45] <gregge> Wow, I fixed it.. I think there's a bug in Ubuntu.. If you haven't updated the repositories, it won't find anything when searching for proprietary drivers
[13:46] <tsb> jrib, I couldn't save the sessions in gnome 2.24/archlinux either, another major showstopper. I was planing to use gnome in between kde 4.2 but I think I'll either go to kde again or try something else :) I need a sessionmanager and not to mention the ability to close programs like they should.
[13:46] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  oh wait.. i do see a Guest Session in the menus :) never noticed it befor
[13:46] <nikitis> Question:  what is this new 3G connectivity, and what does it do?
[13:46] <whitman> How can I exit an application "properly" from the command line.  I essentially want to fake clicking on the close button via the command line, I want the app to close properly so that it can save settings.
[13:46] <nikitis> !3G
[13:46] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis it was one of the main selling points of 8.10 (not to me but they tried to sell that feature a bunch)
[13:46] <rockyrock> I tried nvidia-glx-new and the envy one but all the same result!!!!!!!
[13:46] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: that means smth. with dns from inside is wrong
[13:46] <erry> hllo?
[13:46] <onodes> hello ! 8.10 is not use madwifi
[13:46] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: Ok! So how do I do it?
[13:46] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  i dont recall it beingmentioned much at all..  I just saw guest session now in the menus of that user-applet - that ive rarely used
[13:46] <jrib> tsb: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession I guess they didn't finish
[13:46] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: try to compare resolve.conv and hosts (from /etc)
[13:46] <nikitis> rockyrock, what's the issue and video card?
[13:47] <tsb> jrib, yep
[13:47] <velko> natalisushka: another idea. if you can ping the ip, you can list the servers listed in /etc/apt/sources.list in /etc/hosts in order to get resolved
[13:47] <runpain2> !pavilion dv6747cl wireless
[13:47] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  i just tried it.. and it dident even work. :)
[13:47] <rockyrock> this problem is only with 8 series, right??
[13:47] <rockyrock> I have another computer with 7 series and doesn't have that problem
[13:47] <bingungajaa> nikitis : firstly, i installed by hardware drivers, but can't enable, then, i restart, then i try "Nvidia X server setting", it stated, i must close the app, then type "sudo nvdia-xconfig", restart, then it works ..... i really don't know what i'm doing
[13:47] <gregge> The proprietary drivers must ask for an update of the repositories, or it won't work
[13:47] <rockyrock> is it from nvidia or is it a bug in Ubuntu??
[13:47] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: they are different :)
[13:47] <erry> helllo did u read what i posteD?
[13:47] <erry> if u did i can wait
[13:47] <sparkplug> I installed ubutnu on my HP dv4t laptop, and randomly my inputs won't work at all on start (keyboard/touchpad)
[13:47] <Yimpolo> whitman: All applications have their own method of closing
[13:47] <erry> just tell me that
[13:47] <nikitis> bingungajaa, ah ok, your xorg.conf wasn't configured properly
[13:47] <dev_> is someone using DSL I was wondering if they had any similar problems, I get good response times from ping/traceroute, but the reaction / delay of something happining is horrible ( I can't access the internet good for research, but can keep a steady stream open like irc, even big streams are possible to keep open, but browsing new infromation is a pain )
[13:47] <mathias__> have a problem here, after upgrading to 8.10 samba wont work as i should, think its releated to 81.0 upgrade. The problem is that i mount some shares on boot via fstab and before the upgrade it worked as i should but after it mounts all shares BUT one ... that one wont mount. If i monunt it manually via a termnial window it works ...havent changed anything in fstab or on the client, also the upgrade asked me if i want new smb.conf
[13:47] <mathias__>  or keep the old one and i choosed to keep the old one ... any ckues ??
[13:47] <jrib> tsb: this gives me a good excuse to try hibernate though
[13:48] <Yimpolo> whitman: also, you cal press ^Z and then just kill the job if you want
[13:48] <ljsoftnet> i have openoffice 3 installed in synaptic, how can i run it?
[13:48] <OxDeadC0de> I don't get guest session in user appletdr_willis http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta ^^ there's a whole section for it
[13:48] <bboris> dran ?
[13:48] <erry> PLEASE?
[13:48] <OxDeadC0de> oops
[13:48] <nikitis> bingungajaa, basically xorg.conf file is used to tell "X" the visual gui you use to use the install nvidia driver.
[13:48] <tsb> jrib, hehe yeah.. I'll have to check that out myself. Really strange though, such a serious bug, makes ubuntu 8.10 a step backwards for me
[13:48] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: should I change the one inside with the one outside?
[13:48] <sparkplug> the laptops not freezing, the cursor blinks at the login screen and I can shut it down with the power button (as in really shut down, not just cut the power).  But I can't do anything else, so have to power off/on and it always works the second time
[13:48] <sparkplug> anyone know what could be wrong?
[13:48] <rockyrock> nikitis: ﻿I installed the Nvidia driver (the one from nvidia.com) but it appears that i have some problems with the graphics. When i try to resize the System Monitor's window, it does this slowly, i.e i see like the shadows of the window. What's the problem?? I have nvidia 8500GT
[13:49] <sea> ubottu, are you really a robot?
[13:49] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: copy them from outside (LiveCD) into the chroot (but back them up)
[13:49] <tsb> jrib, if nothing else, it also gives me a good excuse to check out alternative de/wm's :)
[13:49] <erry> hello
[13:49] <erry> Can u help me
[13:49] <bingungajaa> nikitis : is this mean, ubuntu really support nvidia geforce 8600 ? why so many people experienced they can't activated their hardware driver .... not that i'm unhappy that my special effect work, but i don't want to install 3rd party driver
[13:49] <erry> pleasE?
[13:49] <Dabbu> a good ip scanner for ubuntu ?
[13:49] <dp_> I seem to have lost my compiz preference manager from the preferences tab.  how can I get it back?
[13:49] <nikitis> bingungajaa, so you installed them, but X didn't know to use them.  by running nvidia-xconfig it automatically rewrote your xorg.conf file to use the drivers.
[13:49] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than try ping again... than aptidude
[13:49] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: do I have to restart anything?
[13:49] <runpain2> everything elese works on my Pavilion dv6747cl except wireless
[13:49] <nikitis> bingungajaa, you didn't isntall 3rd party
[13:49] <ljsoftnet> i have openoffice 3 installed in synaptic, how can i run it?
[13:49] <sparkplug> bingungajaa: 'third party driver'?
[13:49] <not_toast> hey i'm using fluxbuntu and when i upgraded it to 8.10 i get an error when ever i run firefox firefox still runs but it's annoyng to close the error every time any help?
[13:49] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: no, dont think so
[13:49] <erry> Hello!@?
[13:49] <erry> Can you PLEASE Help me
[13:50] <erry> Argh
[13:50] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: ping works :0
[13:50] <jrib> tsb: here's yours: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555795
[13:50] <natalisushka> :)
[13:50] <sea> ubottu, yes, I am sure you are, now.
[13:50] <Pici> !helpme | erry
[13:50] <Dabbu> is there any ipscanner ????
[13:50] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: Horray :) update works
[13:50] <rockyrock> nikitis: i'm not sure if there are other steps i have to do after i installed the driver to make it work.
[13:50] <erry> But i posted what i wanted
[13:50] <tsb> jrib, yep that's the one
[13:50] <Pici> Dabbu: nmap
[13:50] <erry> :(
[13:50] <nikitis> rockyrock, not sure, could be a bug in the new gui config.
[13:50] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: Thanks a lot dude!
[13:50] <Rotlaus_> Hi, i just installed UrbanTerror (The Game). When i start it my Monitor gets out of sync. What can i do to get  it work?
[13:50] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis oh, I had to install gdm_guest_session package :)
[13:50] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  I got a guest session in the user applet, but on the gdm screen theres no mention of guest session.  the applet dosent work.. so not sure if it even works at all I recall some check box somewhere about it.
 Hello i have ati radeon - graphics don't work properly. i have the closed-source driver installed and enabled, but still screen blinks in ANY 3D app. Anyway to FIX this?
[13:50] <blekos> hello, is it possible to create startup profiles with different services? I have a laptop and when i am on the go i want to run only with the basic services, no network, no sound etc
[13:50] <bingungajaa> nikitis : sorry to ask again, so Ubuntu 8.10 DO support geforce 8600 ?
[13:50] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko .. by the way, I am a guy ;) .. natalisushka is my wife's name :P
[13:50] <nikitis> rockyrock, did you run nvidia-xconfig?
[13:51] <nikitis> bingungajaa, yes
[13:51] <rockyrock> nikitis: no
[13:51] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  heh - i just made a account namde 'guest' and leave a postit note on the pc saying.. Login: as guest, password guest. :)
[13:51] <rockyrock> nikitis: should i?
[13:51] <rockyrock> why?
[13:51] <velko> natalisushka: hahaha :-)
[13:51] <nikitis> rockyrock, run it as root, etc. sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:51] <bingungajaa> nikitis : there you go, so many people can't make their driver works ....
[13:51] <bingungajaa> nikitis : there you go, so many people can't make their driver works .... like rockyrock and me earlier haha
[13:51] <gregge> rockyrock: I'm not sure about any card other than my card 8400, but I've heard others in the 8-series suck.. But I read a page that can help some of it
[13:51] <erry> r u ignoring me
[13:51] <erry> :(
[13:51] <nikitis> bingungajaa, drivers aren't OS specific necessarily
[13:52] <nikitis> bingungajaa, some drivers cannot compile against a given kernel
[13:52] <prower> anyone with nexuiz/etqw or another fps willing to start it up and see if they can join a game? i can't join games in any online game that uses udp for communication :< (which is almost all of them)
[13:52] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis now you can (somehow) let them log in without a password as guest and it will erase everything they did in that session when they log out ^^
[13:52] <rockyrock> gregge: give us the page
[13:52] <nikitis> bingungajaa, people using ancient Geforce 4-5 series may have issues, but not 8 series
[13:52] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  i dont see how from my gdm screen.. but my guest account may goof them up. :)
[13:52] <erry> :(
[13:52] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: np... restore your old files after updateing (if you dont need the chroot anymore)
[13:52] <erry> Can anybody help me??
[13:52] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko .. I am doing apt-get upgrade -f .. it seems to be going and everything alright except for some lines: like: sh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied .. is that normal?
[13:52] <velko> erry: if you continue to distrurb there are good chances not only to be ignored but also kicked from the channel. either ask your question or shut up
[13:53] <erry> I ASKED
[13:53] <bazhang> erry, what is the issue
[13:53] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: what files? dns?
[13:53] <cpro> ziroday i got the upgrade in my udate manager but i have one error now
[13:53] <rockyrock> nikitis: what to do then?? I ran that command!
[13:53] <cpro> ziroday i got the upgrade in my update manager but i have one error now
[13:53] <bingungajaa> nikitis : as long as i'm not using 3rd party drivers, which can harm my vga. Then people with series 8, all they must do is "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[13:53] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: resolve.conf and hosts
[13:53] <erry> bazhang, <erry> <erry> Hello i have ati radeon - graphics don't work properly. i have the closed-source driver installed and enabled, but still screen blinks in ANY 3D app. Anyway to FIX this?
[13:53] <ljsoftnet> i have openoffice 3 installed it's not in the gnome menu list, but installed in synaptic, how can i run it?
[13:53] <velko> natalisushka: yeah. it's better to mount the /dev/ system before you chroot
[13:53] <bazhang> erry, what 3d app
[13:53] <dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  reading at http://ubuntunext810.blogspot.com/2008/09/guest-session.html right now
[13:53] <nikitis> rockyrock, try ctrl+alt+backspace and see if that worked.  (crosses fingers)
[13:53] <erry> bazhang, ANY 3d app
[13:53] <erry> blender
[13:53] <natalisushka> velko: how?
[13:53] <erry> balazar
[13:53] <jtisme> ljsoftnet, soffice
[13:53] <erry> windows games
[13:53] <FloodBot3> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <bazhang> erry, give some examples please
[13:53] <erry> they all make the screen blink
[13:54] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: is it in applications-office?
[13:54] <nikitis> bingungajaa, yes, this is recommended, and is an option during manual install via the nvidia installation.
[13:54] <erry> blender, balazar, windows games, even cheeze does it altho its webcam not 3d
[13:54] <velko> natalisushka: you have to google it. i'm at work now and don't know the exact syntax. just google for chroot and you'll find it
[13:54] <cpro> i have a problem in upgrading to 8.10 plz help
[13:54] <bboris> hey Dran !
[13:54] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, its not there, you how to run it in the terminal?
[13:54] <bazhang> erry, are you talking to me? then prefix your response with my nickname
[13:54] <gregge> rockyrock: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101161&highlight=8400M   they're specifically talking about 8400M.. but it seems it can help others in the 8-series too
[13:54] <erry> bazhang, <erry> blender, balazar, windows games, even cheeze does it altho its webcam not 3d
[13:54] <velko> natalisushka: it was something like "-o bind"
[13:54] <bazhang> erry, are you using compiz
[13:55] <gregge> rockyrock: No garantees at all about other cards though
[13:55] <cygoku> If I take the files from th cd image of Intrepid and burn them to a dvd, will it boot in live and be able to install normally ??
[13:55] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko: it doesn't seem to well with the upgrade! after I type upgrade and get all the packages-to-be-installed report and hit yes, i get this: http://pastebin.ru/298055
[13:55] <erry> bazhang, i tried without it
[13:55] <erry> bazhang, but yeah compiz works almost fine
[13:55] <bingungajaa> nikitis : i try ctrl atl backspace, make me restart LOL
[13:55] <cpro> plz any body help me
[13:55] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: you mean that menu option is all empty?
[13:55] <bazhang> erry, are you using compiz with those apps yes or no
[13:55] <rockyrock> gregge: what were you saying cuz i logged out!
[13:55] <rockyrock> nikitis: didn't work!
[13:55] <jtisme> !please |cpro
[13:55] <bullgard4> What menu item switches on the 'popularity contest' (or similar)?
[13:55] <erry> bazhang, yes but it doesnt work if i dont use compiz either
[13:55] <nikitis> bingungajaa, does a gui restart.  or restarts Gdm (gnome)
[13:55] <brianski> what's the difference between cacao-oj6-plugin and icedtea6-plugin ?
[13:55] <rockyrock> gregge: did you send us the page?
[13:56] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, it only has "Dictionary" no openoffice
[13:56] <nikitis> bingungajaa, it re-reads the xorg.conf file
[13:56] <bazhang> erry, what card make and model and how were the drivers installed
[13:56] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: yep..velko was true... you need the /dev inside the chroot... google for itr
[13:56] <cpro> i am getting this error when i am clicking for upgrade  to 8.10 Failed to run /var/tmp/tmpbozhqm/intrepid as user root.
[13:56] <cpro> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[13:56] <bingungajaa> nikitis : don't understand, it makes me log out and ask for login pass again
[13:56] <gregge> rockyrock: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101161&highlight=8400M   they're specifically talking about 8400M.. but it seems it can help others in the 8-series too
[13:56] <nikitis> rockyrock, is the screen the wrong resolution?
[13:56] <Dran> Has anyone had any issues with the partition manager creating /swap when using a SATA drive?
[13:56] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: try soffice in terminal
[13:56] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : can u activate your hardware drivers ?
[13:56] <erry> bazhang, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] and it it is in the "hardware drivers" menu. its restricted it came with the repositiry
[13:56] <nikitis> bingungajaa, it restarts gnome.
[13:56] <nikitis> bingungajaa, if it ever hangs, you can do that to restart gnome
[13:57] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ic ic
[13:57] <bazhang> erry, is this hardy or ibex or other
[13:57] <erry> bazhang, 8.10
[13:57] <fouad> salut qui parle français ici
[13:57] <erry> bazhang, it did the same in 8.04
[13:57] <paul68> !fr
[13:57] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, it opens openoffice 2.4 not 3.0
[13:57] <erry> fouad, anglais
[13:57] <mercutio22> !seen psyke83
[13:57] <bazhang> fouad, #ubuntu-fr
[13:57] <rockyrock> nikitis: no it's okay 1280*1024, i have 19inch monitor
[13:57] <stelt> Maximum volume is way lower than under Vista. How can i fix that?
[13:57] <bazhang> erry,  sounds like a conflict with compiz and those 3d apps
[13:58] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : can u activate your hardware drivers ?
[13:58] <erry> bazhang, i tried w/o compiz
[13:58] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: what do you mean by activating the hardware?
[13:58] <gregge> roclyrocl: there's a lot of pages to go through, but it only goes to show how bad the drivers are (or really nvidia-settings)
[13:58] <gregge> rockyrock
[13:58] <dany_21a_> stelt: check the command "alsamixer" in a console
[13:58] <nikitis> rockyrock, hmm i don't know why it does that
[13:58] <Stonekeeper> hi. gnome-ish question: Any way of making the default "Documents" folder a hardlink to an existing "My Documents" folder and hide "My Documents" from Nautilus?
[13:58] <bazhang> erry, absent that, it may well be a bug; and as ibex is new, will need to be filed
[13:58] <amikrop> Hello. I want to find an SVN client with Nautilus integration (like TortoiseSVN for win32 has windows explorer integration). Are thera ny available? :-)
[13:58] <bboris> is there an ubunto 64 download for Intel?
[13:58] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : can ur nvidia driver activated in "hardware drivers" ?
[13:58] <erry> bazhang, it waas that way in 8.04 too..
[13:58] <Stonekeeper> it's for a dual thin/fat client setup
[13:58] <rockyrock> nikitis: also when i minimize and maximize
[13:58] <W8TAH> hi folks - can someone suggest a music player for ubuntu that will attach to my itunes shared library and play it right?
[13:59] <amikrop> * are there any
[13:59] <Gigacore> hi guys, I downloaded ubuntu 8.10 alternate cd for my another pc which has no internet connection.. but when I try to upgrade it, I get a warning message "The packages could not be authenticated" any solutions will be appreciated
[13:59] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: velko: something like this: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev  and then sudo chroot /media?
[13:59] <nikitis> rockyrock, maybe you need to tweak some settings in nvidia-settings
[13:59] <rockyrock> nikitis: ...a window i does that slowly, not so slowly but i feel like something wrong
[13:59] <sponix> OK, how many 8.10 users are in here right now? Looking to move my boxen from 8.04.1 to 8.10, and redo one from i386 to amd64... Any major snags I should look forward to ?
[13:59] <nikitis> rockyrock, i couldn't tell you what though
[13:59] <stelt> dany_21a_ , it says 100<>100
[13:59] <nikitis> rockyrock, do you have compiz enabled?
[13:59] <jrib> Stonekeeper: yes, but why would do it that way instead of just telling it to use My Documents as your documents folder?
[13:59] <bazhang> sponix, you should try the live cd first imo
[13:59] <rockyrock> nikitis: yeah
[14:00] <erry> bazhang, so is it fixable?
[14:00] <nikitis> Does it do it with compiz disabled?
[14:00] <bingungajaa> nikitis : compiz enable and special effect enable, is it the same ?
[14:00] <Gigacore> hi guys, I downloaded ubuntu 8.10 alternate cd for my another pc which has no internet connection.. but when I try to upgrade it, I get a warning message "The packages could not be authenticated" any solutions will be appreciated
[14:00] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: mount -o bind /dev /media/partionname
[14:00] <brianski> sponix: if you haven't used amd64 before, you will notice some snags there
[14:00] <nikitis> bingungajaa, yes
[14:00] <jtisme> sponix, i second the live cd first
[14:00] <sponix> bazhang:  Good recommendation, I'll do that on both laptops and the desktop prior
[14:00] <rockyrock> nikitis: no, but i still have problems with resizing
[14:00] <bazhang> erry, have you asked in #compiz ? also for wine games you should check appdb and #winehq
[14:00] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: (outside of the chroot)
[14:00] <Fenix|work> Good morning.
[14:00] <nikitis> rockyrock, with compiz disabled you have problems with resizing?
[14:00] <gregge> rockyrock: nikitis is probably right. It's probably the fact that nvidia has a setting that saves energy in their software.. problem is that in linux it has hard to get out of that setting
[14:00] <erry> nikitis, nikitis means winner in greek
[14:00] <erry> bazhang, i told u i tried with compiz DISABLED
[14:01] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: yes I see. Then I must go sudo chroot /media  ???
[14:01] <nikitis> erry, correct, or champion
[14:01] <sponix> jtisme:  yeah, very good idea, to give it a spin off the livecd for hardware compat, and over all performance prior to switching over
[14:01] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sry, missed " mount -o bind /dev /media/partionname/dev"
[14:01] <erry> :)
[14:01] <rockyrock> nikitis: yeah
[14:01] <Fenix|work> Anyone know how to make a bootable DVD that I can use to recover my entire system?
[14:01] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than chroot as usual
[14:01] <erry> im the real champion tho
[14:01] <erry> just saying.
[14:01] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:01] <bboris> Has anyone had any issues with the partition manager creating /swap when using a SATA drive?
[14:01] <erry> brb
[14:01] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: what do you mean
[14:01] <erry> il ltry completely without compiz at all
[14:01] <natalisushka> ?
[14:01] <bazhang> erry, you have several separate issues, one is with wine games
[14:01] <nikitis> gregge, is there a way to reset all compiz settings to default?
[14:01] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: can you check in /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice ?
[14:01] <jtisme> Fenix|work, google rip
[14:01] <dany_21a_> natalisushka:  it just maps the outside /dev into the chroot-environment
[14:01] <dp_> I seem to have lost my compiz preference manager from the preferences tab.  how can I get it back?
[14:01] <nikitis> gregge, rockyrock may want to try that
[14:01] <sponix> brianski:  yeah, never used amd64, even thought this desktop is an athlon xp 64 chip, so I expect a bit of resistance there. Know a few special libs are needed to support things like flash and so forth
[14:02] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: whats the actual path to the installed system (where you are chrooting to)
[14:02] <rockyrock> nikitis: try what?
[14:02] <gregge> nikitis: No, I don't think it's necessary... and I'm not sure how to do it anyway
[14:02] <lorenzo> Hi everybody, my hardy is acting weird. When I start it, only my calendar applet and the tracker tool are loaded; nothing happens for about 2 minutes (!!!), when I get the message that nm-applet is trying to access the keyring; I type in the pwd and all the applets are started. Still, all the bookmarks in Firefox are gone, and the homepage; when I try to restart or shut down the system, the 2 panels disappear but nothing happens. Anyone
[14:02] <lorenzo> can help me please? I am lost! thank you very much, I appreciate your help
[14:02] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, i browse it in nautilus or terminal?
[14:02] <bj_> sudo apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxtools python-wxaddons wx2.8-i18n
[14:02] <gregge> Rockyrock: Can you access nvidia-settings?
[14:02] <jerbear> i'm seeing some very strange behavior after installing intrepid... when logged in over nomachine, and i open xterm, nothing is visible in the xterm window but the prompt. it's responsive to keyboard input, but you can't see what you're typing
[14:02] <Stonekeeper> jrib: what do you mean exactly? Wouldn't that mean having both folders visible to the user?
[14:02] <rockyrock> gregge: not installed
[14:02] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: anyplace would do
[14:02] <brianski> sponix: actually flash is pretty easy these days
[14:02] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: ok, so I typed sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/disk .. it seemed to have worked. Now what?  :/ Sorry! just confused!
[14:02] <sponix> jtisme brianski bazhang : I keep a /crap partition on each machine to store my crap, would you recommend on the i386 laptops just doing a release upgrade, or wiping and doing a fresh install on all of them ?
[14:03] <asmokki> any way to modify the duplex mode in my network card?
[14:03] <brianski> sponix: just apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, and it will pull in the necessary libs you'll need for most things
[14:03] <jrib> Stonekeeper: just get rid of Documents and setup ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs to use My Documents as your documents directory
[14:03] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[14:03] <nikitis> dp_, have you tried sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[14:03] <loxley_> asmokki: mii-tool
[14:03] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: but you have to umount the other bind first
[14:03] <jtisme> sponix, i always do fresh install
[14:03] <Gigacore> hi guys, I downloaded ubuntu 8.10 alternate cd for my another pc which has no internet connection.. but when I try to upgrade it, I get a warning message "The packages could not be authenticated" any solutions will be app
[14:03] <Stonekeeper> jrib: That's what I'm after! some config for the magic folders. Thanks!! :)
[14:03] <GNuBOi> how to install Totem BBC plugin in hardy
[14:03] <brianski> sponix: my rule is only do a fresh install for LTS releases
[14:03] <jrib> Stonekeeper: or rename My Documents to Documents, though I'm guessing you have a good reason for not doing this?
[14:03] <nikitis> rockyrock, try googling on how to reset all compiz settings to default
[14:03] <emorris> dp_: reinstall compizconfig-settings-manager or simple-ccsm (whichever you want)
[14:03] <brianski> but that's just me
[14:03] <bazhang> sponix, I did the upgrade via the net and have had no issues (yet...) its up to you as different folks report differently so early in the release
[14:03] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: just enter "mount" to see what is mounted where
[14:03] <bboris> anybody plz
[14:04] <nikitis> rockyrock, not sure how to do it, but it's worth a try to make sure it's not a bad compiz setting.
[14:04] <bazhang> bboris, what is the issue
[14:04] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, it is there
[14:04] <jrib> Stonekeeper: if you want system-wide, it's: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.*
[14:04] <outbackwifi> Gigacore: you need to add the gpg keys to the repository
[14:04] <Gigacore> someone please reply to my Q
[14:04] <jtisme> !please |bboris
[14:04] <Stonekeeper> jrib: does that hide the existing "My Documents" folder?
[14:04] <gregge> rockyrock: Hmm.. ok. there's a thing called "powermizer" in nvidia-settings that makes it slower... maybe it's on by default.. if you type nvidia-settings in the erminal, nothing happens?
[14:04] <bboris> Issues with the partition manager creating /swap when using a SATA drive?
[14:04] <Gigacore> outbackwifi: thanks, but how ?
[14:04] <Dabbu1> i have nmap installed but i don know how to use it to scan ip from 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.2.255
[14:04] <rockyrock> nikitis: i have this problem since i installed ubuntu, i don't think it's a problem with compiz settings
[14:04] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: ddoubleclick  on it; thats the binary ;)
[14:04] <jrib> Stonekeeper: sorry, we started about two things.  Does what hide the existing My Documents folder?
[14:04] <bazhang> Gigacore, that means the gpg key did not authenticate
[14:04] <Fenix|work> jtisme, could you elaborate on that a little more please?  RIP means a lot of things... most notibly the Routing Information Protocol
[14:04] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I see /dev on /media/disk type none (rw,bind) .. I am just afraid to do something wrong with that1
[14:04] <natalisushka> !
[14:05] <Gigacore> bazhang: how to add that gpg key
[14:05] <bboris> ubottu sorry...
[14:05] <rockyrock> gregge: yeah i see it now
[14:05] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: so i just go umount /dev ?
[14:05] <jtisme> Fenix|work, recovery is possible for this rip
[14:05] <dany_21a_> Dabbu: nmap -sP 192.168.0-2.*
[14:05] <rockyrock> gregge: NVIDIA X Server Settings
[14:05] <bazhang> bboris, please elaborate, and use my nickname in the response or I will miss it
[14:05] <bboris> i am talking to a bot.
[14:05] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: yes...but "umount /media/disk"
[14:05] <Fenix|work> RIPLinux ... thanks jtisme
[14:05] <Stonekeeper> jrib: sorry, I'll be clearer - We have a bunch of XP accounts on a samba share and I'm creating ubuntu thin clients. I'm trying to remove redundancy in the Gnome session so that you don't have "Documents" and "My Documents". Ideally, just one folder.
[14:05] <bazhang> Gigacore, will it ever get net connection?
[14:05] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than check if the original disk is mount again, if not: fix it
[14:05] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, i got it, its working now
[14:06] <jtisme> Fenix|work, havent used it but looks good
[14:06] <asmokki> nyone had problems with network card duplexmode?
[14:06] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: ok
[14:06] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: the output is: umount: it seems /media/disk is mounted multiple times !!!
[14:06] <Dabbu1> dany_21a_:is there any GUI for this nmap
[14:06] <nikitis> rockyrock, i do not know then.  If i were in your shoes i would try a manual install.  Google on how to do that.
[14:06] <gregge> rockyrock: If you go to "powermizer" it should say 0 I think, but it could mean that it rarely gets out of 0 either and therefore everything's really slow
[14:06] <prower> For those using Ubuntu with e1000e based network cards/chipsets, i wouldn't recommend using intrepid :< i am seeing serious issues with my card since i installed it
[14:06] <lorenzo> Hi everybody, my hardy is acting weird. When I start it, only my calendar applet and the tracker tool are loaded; nothing happens for about 2 minutes (!!!), when I get the message that nm-applet is trying to access the keyring; I type in the pwd and all the applets are started. Still, all the bookmarks in Firefox are gone, and the homepage; when I try to restart or shut down the system, the 2 panels disappear but nothing happens. Anyone
[14:06] <teamcobra> asmokki: once, but ethtool is your friend, as are pre-up statements in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:06] <lorenzo>  can help me please? I am lost! thank you very much, I appreciate your help
[14:06] <sponix> thanks for your information... One last question, what version of VLC is most current in 8.10, does it use 9.2, or is it still back in the 8.6 branch ?
[14:06] <dany_21a_> Dabbu: yes... some... google for it
[14:06] <Gigacore> bazhang: no :(
[14:06] <jrib> Stonekeeper: yeah, I think the easiest solution there is to edit user-dirs and delete ~/Documents/
[14:06] <Pici> !info zenmap | Dabbu1
[14:06] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, how about gimp, can you show me its directory and the executable?
[14:06] <Stonekeeper> jrib: ok. thanks for your time pal.
[14:07] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: and...does it umount it? what says "mount"
[14:07] <bazhang> !info vlc | sponix
[14:07] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I also have this: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[14:07] <prower> For those using Ubuntu with e1000e based network cards/chipsets, i wouldn't recommend using intrepid :< i am seeing serious issues with my card since i installed it
[14:07] <prower> (sorry i posted that twice by mistake)
[14:07] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: type gimp in terminal
[14:07] <bingungajaa> anyone know, which one is better lotus symphony or open office ?
[14:07] <prince_jammys> Dabbu1: zenmap, knmap ...
[14:07] <sponix> bazhang:  didn't know that bot did package info, that is hot ... Thanks
[14:07] <jrib> bingungajaa: try both and see which one is better for you
[14:07] <bazhang> Gigacore, then no need to worry about authentication
[14:07] <Dabbu1> ok..thanks
[14:07] <romulo> hi, I/O operations are VERY slow on my intrepid. I checked and DMA is enabled but anytime an application is using the disk, the rest of the system becames slow like hell, can anyone help me?
[14:07] <gregge> rockyrock: Can you see the powermizer?
[14:07] <cygoku> If I take the files from th cd image of Intrepid and burn them to a dvd, will it boot in live and be able to install normally ??
[14:07] <Gigacore> bazhang: ok
[14:08] <Mrunagi> does anyone here have any experience with bluetooth dial up networking?
[14:08] <bingungajaa> jrib : LOL i will notice that :)
[14:08] <bazhang> cygoku, the iso ?
[14:08] <Gigacore> bazhang: thanks btw
[14:08] <rockyrock> gregge: yeah, i'm uploading a screenshot of it into my website so you can see it
[14:08] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: mount says this: http://pastebin.ru/298057
[14:08] <Dusk_Bey> how can i start emerald theme at startup?? compiz fusion starts at startup but not with emerald window decorator
[14:08] <cygoku> bazhang : yes files from the iso (image)
[14:08] <bingungajaa> if i upgrade my open office in ubuntu 8.10, should i remove the older one first ? or what ?
[14:08] <Fenix|work> jtisme, this is sort of what I'm looking for... but I'm actually looking for a utility to make a bootable DVD that will restore an image to disk ... kinda like a factory defaults restore type of thing
[14:08] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, it worked
[14:08] <nikitis> Dusk_Bey, i believe emerald --replace under sessions in preferences.
[14:08] <jrib> bingungajaa: nah, APT will take care of all APT stuff
[14:08] <bazhang> cygoku, files? not sure what you mean. you can remaster the iso (!remaster) if you wish
[14:09] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: ok its also in applications-graphics menu
[14:09] <bingungajaa> jrib : thx
[14:09] <jtisme> Fenix|work, cant help you there
[14:09] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, its not there, its ok as long as it runs
[14:09] <Dusk_Bey> nikitis, thx friend
[14:09] <nikitis> Dusk_Bey, System => Preferences => Sessions, Under startup add emerald --replace
[14:09] <bazhang> !clone | Fenix|work
[14:09] <bingungajaa> is compiz and compiz fusion the same ?
[14:09] <bazhang> bingungajaa, yes
[14:10] <bingungajaa> bazhang : thx
[14:10] <dr_willis> compiz+beryl --> compiz fusion, now normally just called compiz
[14:10] <dr_willis> :)
[14:10] <nikitis> bingungajaa, mostly yes
[14:10] <Mrunagi> im having a problem connecting via wvdial in the cli because it wants my pin number but i have no way of entering it
[14:10] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: hm... on my box a multilayered umount works
[14:10] <cygoku> !remaster
[14:10] <DrummaDave> Anyone got a few minutes to help me out with Wine?
[14:10] <K-O-D> so no amd64 realtime kernel with nvidia drivers?
[14:10] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: you must get rid of that mount, that was wrong: "/dev on /media/disk type none (rw,bind)"
[14:10] <nikitis> bingungajaa, difference in versioning, but compiz fusion technically combining of beryl and compiz,  But like dr_willis said, we just call it compiz for short
[14:10] <outbackwifi> Mrunagi: use bluez-pin
[14:11] <Tyrath> Ibex has stopped me being able to view the PHP in files
[14:11] <Fenix|work> bazhang, jtisme ... I think I may have found the answer... how to turn your current install into a live-cd using remastersys
[14:11] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: but dont umount that "udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)"
[14:11] <bingungajaa> nikitis : you said earlier special effect and compiz is the same, but how come my ealier hardy, got "compiz fusion's logo" when i login, but now not ?
[14:11] <Tyrath> - how do I make it so ibex allows me to view the PHP in files
[14:11] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I guess umount /media/disk worked now
[14:11] <cygoku> bazhang : it's simple, i just wanna know if I can make a bootable intrepid dvd by burning files from the iso image of intrepid ...
[14:11] <Fenix|work> jtisme, bazhang :: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/remaster-and-clone-your-ubuntu-install.html
[14:11] <vitamin-carrot> view source?
[14:11] <Tyrath> if I download the PHP files Ibex will format them into HTML
[14:11] <dany_21a_> natalisushka so "/dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)" is still here?
[14:12] <Tyrath> and this is given I have fully logged in etc...
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, not sure, i haven't installed ibex yet, it's doing so now as i'm speaking
[14:12] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: no restart: " mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev"
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> hi
[14:12] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: it wont; its the webserver with php interpreter that does that
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ok
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> How do i get the new ubuntu version
[14:12] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: nope
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, i may have to disconnect here in a second for the install to finish.
[14:12] <outbackwifi> !lamp| Tyrath
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> ?
[14:12] <rockyrock> gregge: http://www.rakblog.com/files/power.jpg
[14:12] <cousteau> lost m Nvidia drivers
[14:12] <vitamin-carrot> cygoku: make sure you have a blank dvd in you burner and then right click on the iso file and click burn to disk
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ok
[14:12] <Dabbu1> IS there any substitute for ORACLE ?
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> how do u get the new ubuntu version
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, then if there are no problems, I'll be right back.
[14:12] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: so what do I do next?
[14:12] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: then remount it (with gui at best)
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : thx
[14:12] <cygoku> i see
[14:13] <nikitis> Dabbu1, no
[14:13] <natalisushka> remount /media/dev ?
[14:13] <sponix> Dabbu1:  why would you want one ?
[14:13] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: sorry, remount /media/disk ?
[14:13] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: so do I need to install lamp if I'm to see PHP?
[14:13] <rockyrock> nikitis: ﻿http://www.rakblog.com/files/power.jpg
[14:13] <gregge> rockyrock: there's only one performance level?
[14:13] <vitamin-carrot> cygoku: make sure you burn the iso at the lowest speed to ensure that it will indeed boot
[14:13] <rockyrock> gregge: what do you mean by that?
[14:13] <cygoku> okay,...
[14:13] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[14:14] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: if the php file is on your pc; yes. if its on another server; no
[14:14] <K-O-D> so no amd64 realtime kernel with nvidia drivers?
[14:14] <Mrunagi> does anyone know how to tether a phone in usb
[14:14] <Dabbu1> sponix:for RDBMS prtactice
[14:14] <Mrunagi> er ubuntu
[14:14] <nikitis> rockyrock, i don't know much about your issue
[14:14] <sponix> Dabbu1:  Postgresql, and MySQL are good free SQL databases, but Oracle is available for Linux as well, and there is Firebird also
[14:14] <dany_21a_> natalisushka than for the /dev:  "mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev"
[14:14] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: see the thing is if I try to edit the php files on the server I still can't view the PHP
[14:14] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: :/ mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[14:14] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than "sudo chroot /media/disk", than updating should work
[14:14] <bingungajaa> anyone can tell me where can i find compiz fuzion menu, i can't find it
[14:14] <sponix> Dabbu1:  just go get Oracle to practice Oracle, free for personal use these days, ya know ? :)
[14:14] <W8TAH> is there any way i can play music from my itunes share on my linux laptop?
[14:15] <gregge> rockyrock: the powermizer wants to jump between "performance levels" in order to save energy, but maybe yours only had one level... then it won't help, I'm afraid
[14:15] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sudo mkdir /media/disk
[14:15] <nikitis> what's the best way to reset a users skeleton?
[14:15] <Dabbu1> really....
[14:15] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: if  the server has LAMP then you can see  php interpreted
[14:15] <vitamin-carrot> W8TAH: have you tried songbird?
[14:15] <rockyrock> gregge: how can we know if it has one or many?
[14:15] <Dabbu1> ok
[14:15] <W8TAH> vitamin-carrot, no - -i havent
[14:15] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: so why wasn't this an issue in ubuntu hardy?
[14:16] <gregge> rockyrock: It should say performance level 0,1 and 2
[14:16] <vitamin-carrot> W8TAH: google it and have a look on their website i know that the ap allows you to upload to ipod
[14:16] <W8TAH> ok
[14:16] <W8TAH> thanks
[14:16] <Dabbu1> how can i send message to a IP on private LAN and windows user
[14:16] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: besides I really don't want to see the HTML considering there is no possible way to create dynamic webpages using solely HTML
[14:16] <gregge> rockyrock: have you tried different drivers?
[14:16] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: its not an issue; if you install server edition with lamp you feel youve got it by default
[14:16] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I am in :) thanks! I will try to fix it now
[14:16] <rockyrock> gregge: yeah
[14:16] <dekkong> Hello guys!! my friend has 4 computers @ home 1 ubuntu 8.10 and 3 windows vista/xp. He would like to setup the internet connection so that the ubuntu computer access directly to the internet and the other ones has to go through the ubuntu computer to get to the internet! how should he do this?
[14:16] <rockyrock> gregge: envy, glx-new
[14:17] <rockyrock> gregge: same thing
[14:17] <blekos> hi, i've install fusesmb. How can i see a shared folder on my vista machine?
[14:17] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: is that the server edition of intrepid ibex?
[14:17] <sea> what app I can use to play ape music file?
[14:17] <gregge> rockyrock: damn.. envy uses the proprietary drivers, right?
[14:17] <outbackwifi> dekkong: theres a howto on internet  connection sharing; read that
[14:17] <rockyrock> gregge: donno!
[14:17] <Stonekeeper> jrib: Does gnome honour the folders in that file when first logging on (and subsequently creating the dirs)?
[14:18] <gregge> rockyrock: system->administration->hardware drivers
[14:18] <Tyrath> !intrepid server version
[14:18] <Ligtas_Jnv> .omnitel.net
[14:18] <dr_willis> gregge,  envyng's task is to get/install the propriety drivers i do belive..  i would use it after trying the 'hardware-drivers' tool;
[14:18] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
[14:18] <Dabbu1> i want to send a msg to a windows xp user over LAN at ip 192.168.0.3     ,how can i do that
[14:18] <rockyrock> gregge: so what?
[14:18] <bazhang> !ics | dekkong
[14:18] <Stonekeeper> Dabbu1: samba
[14:18] <jrib> Stonekeeper: I'm not sure
[14:18] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: smblient -M
[14:19] <vitamin-carrot> Dabbul: isnt there  like a netsend or somthing with samba?
[14:19] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: smbclient -M
[14:19] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:then
[14:19] <gregge> ok dr_willis: rockyrock: dr willis said it's the proprietary drivers, but if you find any drivers in there maybe you can try them
[14:19] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I want to have an operating system, not simply an OS that interfaces with a server
[14:19] <Stonekeeper> i found out about the most AWESOME "winexe" for running windows commands from a samba server. It seriously rocks
[14:19] <Stonekeeper> you can even gain a shell on the remote windows machine
[14:20] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: and in addition downloading another OS prob take a few hours
[14:20] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: are you sure you know what you are saying?
[14:20] <jerbear> anyone here use xterm in intrepid? for some reason i can't see my foreground color any more
[14:20] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: .. ummm! I appriciate your help, hope you can still help :) .. I entered apt-get upgrade -f and got this: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/EOSwfk
[14:20] <lb1> hi
[14:20] <Dabbu1>  outbackwifi:can i know the full command to send "hello" to ip 192.168.0.3
[14:20] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: hardy allowed me to see PHP, intrepid won't. why not? how can I change that? -that's my question
[14:20] <rockyrock> gregge: dr_willis:i found in Hadware Drivers Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (latest card), not in use
[14:20] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I can see that it's just a few errors with certain packages. But why does it stop the whole operation for that? Is there a way to determine if it finished and make it continue and ignore such errors?
[14:21] <blekos> hi, i've install fusesmb. How can i see a shared folder on my vista machine?
[14:21] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: php code? or the actual page?
[14:21] <gregge> rockyrock: It probably won't help but do activate them and see
[14:21] <rockyrock> gregge: i did that before, same result12
[14:21] <clint_> Is anyone else having problems with sound in firefox with UB 8.10?
[14:21] <lhogie_> Hi guys, do you know a ATX P45-based motherboard that HAS a (decent) graphic controller?
[14:21] <bingungajaa> nikitis : are u still there, i'm very curious about compiz fusion, u said it the same with special effect, that's mean it's installed in ubuntu 8.10, but why should i Install compizconfig-setting-manager ?
[14:22] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager resetting to dhcp after every reboot, can someone help ?
[14:22] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: please read the documentation on smbclient; if you get stuck somewhere let me know
[14:22] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:22] <isaw> can anyone help with a fragged 8.10 upgrade?
[14:22] <bazhang> lhogie_, try in ##hardware
[14:22] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: I have no problem seeing the actual page, only seeing the code. and I'm not talking source code, I'm saying that if I download a php file with the host username and password, the file shows me HTML, not PHP
[14:22] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:ok
[14:22] <rockyrock> what the hell is the problem between Ubuntu and nvidia!
[14:22] <bazhang> isaw, please clarify fragged
[14:22] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : what actually your issues, maybe i can share ?
[14:22] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: when I had hardy, this wasn't an issue
[14:22] <nikitis> bingungajaa, ubuntu has default compiz setting.  There are thousands of new 3D things you can do with your desktop,  by installing that manager, you can tap into those settings.
[14:22] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: good luck with that
[14:22] <lhogie_> bazhang: thanx, I noticed that was on the wrong channel :)
[14:22] <prower> friendly warning to anyone with e1000e network cards or chipsets, they are still buggy as of this release :< my card is no longer working properly
[14:23] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: i gave you two options 1) install Apache and PHP on your current installation 2) Install Server edition with LAMP; you chose to ignore both;
[14:23] <bingungajaa> nikits : i understand now, thx LOL
[14:23] <stelt> how do i get an overview of my machine after hardware detection?
[14:23] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: i have lack in performance
[14:23] <outbackwifi> stelt: lshw
[14:23] <gypsymauro> hi
[14:23] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : so u got no issues with activate 3D and special effect with your nvidia ?
[14:23] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: when maximize and minimize i feel it's some how slow
[14:23] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: why do I need Apache? Apache's for producing a server on the monitor. I want to be able to interface with an external host
[14:23] <nikitis> bingungajaa, many have argued to install this by default.  But for some reasons the higher ups deny us this request.
[14:23] <gypsymauro> for a newbie is best to install ubuntu or kubuntu? (coming from windows, is a friend of mine but I've lost memory about windows:)
[14:24] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager resetting to dhcp after every reboot, can someone help ?
[14:24] <Kaigeos> is there anyway I can install g++ 4.3.0 and not 4.3.2 with intrepid??
[14:24] <lorenzo> hi guys, my hardy is being weird. on boot it gets stuck for like 2 minutes as nm-applet apparently tries to acces the keyring but is denied acces, and everything freezes until i am allowed to type my pwd in. my bookmarks and settings in Firefox are gone. If i try to log out or shut down, both panels disappear, and it hangs until i give ctl alt backspace. Please can anyone help? Been struggling with this all morning!
[14:24] <HDready> short question... when i reinstall ubuntu into my / directory... i have the standard applications and so on again?
[14:24] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: no i can activiate them and use them but in bad performance
[14:24] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: im sorry i cannot help you anymore since i dont understand you
[14:24] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:24] <bingungajaa> nikitis : it should be installed by default LOL, but i'm not using it though :)
[14:24] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: try to delete all files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (from your old system)
[14:24] <nikitis> bingungajaa, i would
[14:24] <outbackwifi> lb1: do you understand and need the rt kernel?
[14:24] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : u experienced the same with hardy ?
[14:24] <nikitis> bingungajaa, lots of amazing things
[14:24] <clint_> sound+browser+UB 8.10=Not working!
[14:25] <vitamin-carrot> woot i broke my fstab again
[14:25] <bboris> bazhang Anytime I go to the partition manager reguardless if I choose manual or autocreate for the partions, when the installer tries to create the swap I get an error that it is unable to do so. I have tried changing option in the advanced tab for the location of the boo loader as well. and it fails each time. I am not sure why this happens if it can detect thedrive
[14:25] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: i'm using hardy
[14:25] <lb1> i do music production with jack, so i'd prefer it
[14:25] <vitamin-carrot> woot i restored from my backup
[14:25] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: and that is strange "Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y" - try to find a solution (maybe import the right key or what...use google)
[14:25] <bazhang> bboris, this is from the live cd or the gparted live cd?
[14:25] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: ok. wget ftp://username:pass@location.com/file.php will download a php file. When I open that file in vim all I see is HTML
[14:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:25] <bingungajaa> nikitis : yah lots of amazing things, but for me just not practical :)
[14:26] <Frijolie> after the upgrade to Intrepid, the toggle on my laptop no longer controls the master volume--it's been switched to control my headphone's volume. How can I change this back?
[14:26] <clint_> Hondo_Kitsune, have you used your update manager
[14:26] <nikitis> bingungajaa, lots of amazingly practical things too,  time savers
[14:26] <bboris> bazhang I think it is live cd
[14:26] <mrunagi> ok now im in the command prompt cany anyone help me figure out why xserver wont start?
[14:26] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : OH IC, thought u have problem with ibex, supposedly there's no issues, i'm using hardy earlier, and no issues at all (geforce 8600M)
[14:26] <Hondo_Kitsune> clint_: that is how i tried to pdate online
[14:26] <nikitis> bingungajaa, there was a difference in hardware with 8500 to 8600
[14:27] <clint_> hmm everything up to date?
[14:27] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: you could fresh installing it if you can easily backup everything
[14:27] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: but I want to see PHP code
[14:27] <td123> install**
[14:27] <clint_> id do that
[14:27] <nikitis> bingungajaa, here goes, my computer is about to wish a restart
[14:27] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ya, but they supposedly to be the same series
[14:27] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: wget will interpret the php file, it will not download the source, you probably need to download a .phps file from that server for source
[14:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> td123: that is the thing, i do not want to fresh install, Ubuntu is supposed to be easily upgradeable
[14:27] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: php code can be embeded in html cant it?
[14:27] <favro> mrunagi: if you type   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart what errors are shown?
[14:27] <clint_> my fucking sound wont work in my browser but will in my plater
[14:27] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: ok
[14:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> clint_: everything is up to date
[14:27] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: or use ftp
[14:27] <stelt> outbackwifi, i don't see my webcam, bluetooth, IR and digital TV tuner in there
[14:27] <solsTiCe> hi. i am always lost on www.ubuntu.com and can't the cd cover for latest release 8.10 i fthere is any
[14:27] <bazhang> clint_, no cursing
[14:27] <outbackwifi> !language | clint_
[14:27] <clint_> =\
[14:28] <fbc> nvidia-setting is broken. gives a segmentation fault
[14:28] <webvictim> yeah, there's lots of kids use ubuntu.
[14:28] <clint_> well then someone help me, im that angry
[14:28] <webvictim> you have to watch your language for them.
[14:28] <bazhang> clint_, no.
[14:28] <InfoNutz> anyone try the exchange connector for evolution yet?
[14:28] <webvictim> just in case, you know. ;)
[14:28] <bazhang> clint_, no cursing period.
[14:28] <clint_> im a kid
[14:28] <clint_> dude i know
[14:28] <clint_> sry
[14:28] <vitamin-carrot> then your parents fail
[14:28] <mrunagi> can anyone help me figure out why i have no tmp directory?
[14:28] <webvictim> um, hardly.
[14:28] <sea> 我用什么 软件可以播放ape文件？
[14:28] <clint_> lol i have kids
[14:28] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, that is plenty, no spam wars
[14:28] <paul68> !ch
[14:28] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: other way around. HTML code can be embeded in PHP. PHP code cannot be embeded in HTML. HTML a static markup language that simply displays things on web pages. PHP actually does things
[14:29] <outbackwifi> !cn | sea
[14:29] <paul68> !jp
[14:29] <nikitis> sea, I do not speak japanese
[14:29] <bazhang> sea you need to speak english here
[14:29] <mrunagi> when i try to sudo mkdir tmp i get cannot create directory 'tmp': no such file or directory
[14:29] <bazhang> that is chinese
[14:29] <mrunagi> i think thats why i cant start x
[14:29] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: hermmmmmmmmmmm
[14:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> td123: I also have the alt cd in my drive and cannot upgrade fro mthere either
[14:29] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:29] <bingungajaa> nikitis : that's chinese not japanese hehehe
[14:29] <sea> OK
[14:29] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: have you search the forums?
[14:29] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: sorry I don't know what you mean by embedded. HTML is just a bunch of tags run on the client
[14:29] <nikitis> bingungajaa, it's all spanish to me
[14:29] <favro> mrunagi: sudo mkdir /temp
[14:29] <mrunagi> i get cannot stat:  /tmp/.X11-unix (no such file or directory), aborting
[14:30] <flemota> helppp!!!
[14:30] <mrunagi> favro: but x is looking for /tmp not /temp
[14:30] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: I have never upgraded :P
[14:30] <gypsymauro> the new ubuntu handles now the gnome/kde menu if I install both or is still a mess?
[14:30] <bazhang> flemota, ask a question
[14:30] <outbackwifi> !please | flemota
[14:30] <flemota> i cant active the video driver
[14:30] <mrunagi> odd thing is i see tmp in the dir
[14:30] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: as such I would say its impossible to embed languages in it
[14:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:30] <mrunagi> wwhen i try to cd to it it says it isnt there
[14:30] <clint_> td123, can you download and burn a cd?
[14:30] <bingungajaa> nikitis : what vga u using ?
[14:30] <flemota> okay guys
[14:30] <nikitis> PNY 8600 GT
[14:30] <pvinis> hello
[14:30] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: though you can use PHP to produce HTML
[14:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: yes it asked me for verification. now I ran update and it seems fine,so I am doing dist-upgrade to continue what was left and it's working. with no problems so far, fetching packages form the internet, hope it'll work :)
[14:30] <td123> clint_: of course... but I used the usb stick
[14:30] <pvinis> ellines?!?
[14:31] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: as such you can embed HTML in PHP
[14:31] <clint_> why doesnt he try that?
[14:31] <bazhang> !gr | pvinis
[14:31] <td123> clint_: he did
[14:31] <flemota> #ubuntu-es
[14:31] <Frijolie> ubuntu needs to fix pulseaudio, it's shameful
[14:31] <Slart> Frijolie: what's wrong with it?
[14:31] <td123> Frijolie: I would agree if my pulseaudio didn't work :D
[14:31] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ic, be rite back, got confused with installing cairo-dock, seems to be not working
[14:31] <nikitis> Slart, practially everything.  if you have onboard sound
[14:31] <pvinis> thelo help me to cal3d
[14:31] <favro> mrunagi: try mkdir /tmp instead of tmp
[14:31] <pvinis> kserei kaneis?
[14:32] <bboris> bazhang It is the CD u download from the ubunto site
[14:32] <Frijolie> slart: buggy and only some of the time works on my laptop
[14:32] <mrunagi> same message
[14:32] <clint_> ive never seen that
[14:32] <Frijolie> td123: it doesn't work for me
[14:32] <mrunagi> x wont start because it says tmp doesnt exisyt
[14:32] <Tyrath> gah if I look up PHP and intrepid ibex in google it comes up with absolutely nothing
[14:32] <pvinis_> can anyone help me with cal3d?
[14:32] <bazhang> pvinis, english here; #ubuntu-gr for greek
[14:32] <clint_> so are they shipping 8.10 now?
[14:32] <pvinis> ok
[14:32] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:Connection to COOL-GUY failed. Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[14:32] <Slart> nikitis: works nicely with my onboard sound.. perhaps I'm just lucky
[14:32] <pvinis> can anyone help me with cal3d?
[14:32] <outbackwifi> Frijolie: you have the option of removing Pulseaudio and replacing it with Alsa or esd (tho thats obsolete)
[14:32] <Slart> Frijolie: it's not an alsa problem then? I thought pulseaudio used alsa "behind the scenes"
[14:32] <nikitis> Slart, must be.  It treats my onboard as an ancient device and leaves it for dead.  and it's not that old
[14:32] <vitamin-carrot> oh dears ive noticed a bug in the themes
[14:32] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:33] <Tyrath> ok so ibex is obviously filtering out PHP making it impossible for me to see and edit the PHP
[14:33] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I'm not sure if I understand what you're trying to accomplish. The PHP interpreter parses PHP code and outputs HTML to the webserver to be delivered to the browser. That means that the browser never gets to see the original PHP code, only the results that it produces.
[14:33] <Frijolie> outbackwifi: yeah, i'd like to downgrade but id lose the support
[14:33] <pvinis_> I need help installing cal3d pla
[14:33] <pvinis_> pls*
[14:33] <nikitis> Slart, alsa works great for onboard cards of all varieties
[14:33] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: use the -I to specify ip address also; i have found that works at times
[14:33] <Frijolie> slart: I've never had problems with the sound volume until the "upgrade" to PulseAudio
[14:33] <natalisushka> Guys, is there a way to connect to an open wireless connection without any passphrase? Cuz the network interface asks me for a passphrase and won't let button "Connect" be activated unless I type something there!
[14:34] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: by that reasoning there should be a way to turn said filter off
[14:34] <outbackwifi> DeadFishMan: i suggested to him to use ftp and not wget to download the .php file; he just wont listen o_O
[14:34] <Slart> nikitis: once alsa was working pulse has never given me any problems.. alsa on the other hand
[14:34] <Frijolie> slart: now, since the upgrade to Intrepid, I've lost functionality of the volume toggle on my laptop. Pulse has associated it with my headphones instead of my master volume control
[14:34] <dA_ShArP> Hi people , I have ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe motherboard, mii-tools doesn't detect both of my cards, what would have gone wrong?
[14:34] <nikitis> natalisushka, select none for wireless security type,  you cannot have wpa/wep without a passphrase
[14:34] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: wget, curl and the likes basically work like a web browser, meaning that they retrieve content using HTTP so it doesn't make any difference
[14:34] <Slart> Frijolie: are those the only problems you have?
[14:34] <andresj> hey, anybody tried upgrading from hardy to intrepid? any problems? i remember the upgrade from feisty to hardy was pretty harsh; had to reinstall.
[14:34] <newk> upgraded to 8.10 and compiz not workin at all
[14:34] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: pastebin your dmesg|grep Ether
[14:35] <DeadFishMan> outbackwifi: Either he needs to have FTP access to the host or some sort of WebDAV access would work as well.
[14:35] <natalisushka> nikitis: so what must I do?
[14:35] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, moment doing
[14:35] <nikitis> natalisushka, make sure to disable wireless security on your router as well
[14:35] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I understand how PHP works. I've coded web applications in PHP. Now. I have the username and password of a server which has PHP files on it. When I download those files to the harddrive and open them all I see is PHP. If I open those files on the server using vim all I see is HTML. infact all I ever see is HTML
[14:35] <Dabbu> outbackwifi:r u there ?
[14:35] <outbackwifi> DeadFishMan: he does; but he is using wget which interprets the php and downloads the html
[14:35] <nikitis> natalisushka, when selecting the type in network-manager, just change wep/wpa to none
[14:35] <Frijolie> slart: no, the sound volume---although everything says it's 100% it only sounds like it's 50%. Everything is awfully quiet.
[14:35] <DeadFishMan> outbackwifi: right
[14:35] <lb1> help, I installed ubuntu 8.10 but it seems to have corrupted my bios, what am i supposed to do?
[14:35] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, [   33.089978] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.61.
[14:36] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: when I had ubuntu hardy and I opened these files off the webserver it showed me the PHP
[14:36] <csarven> Any recommendations for a notebook that is Ubuntu friendly?
[14:36] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, and only that line :-|
[14:36] <nikitis> FriedCPU, pulse audio fails at adding bass and treble settings.
[14:36] <Frijolie> slart: the sound volume in Flash videos sometimes is almost non existent
[14:36] <Dorobo18jp> anyone out there that can tell me how to open a .py file in gedit
[14:36] <Slart> Frijolie: I'm not sure pulseaudio is responsible for handling the special volume button on your laptop.. isn't there some kind of special utility that does that?
[14:36] <nikitis> FriedCPU, miss tell
[14:36] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: you're logged into the server on a SSH Session and when you try to vim files, all that you see is HTML?
[14:36] <stelt> Frijolie: my ubuntu is also a lot quieter than Vista
[14:36] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: can you pastebin your entire dmesg please/
[14:36] <Hondo_Kitsune> lb1: Ubuntu is software that has no direct link to your BIOS. Something else must have got it.
[14:36] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, doing :)
[14:36] <slestak> is it possible to dump all my thunderbird account settings to lpr?  i only use imap, so i dont need to move mails, but i have 3 imap accounts.
[14:36] <alpha> I cant c/a/f2 to get to a shell ... please help .. its just a black screen no video output
[14:36] <Slart> Frijolie: you've checked the regular alsa volume controls?
[14:36] <vitamin-carrot> lbl: reset bios and see what happens
[14:36] <nikitis> Frijolie, Pulse audio fails at adding bass and treble to onboard sound cards as it believes it doesn't support it, but it does.
[14:36] <reqqit> join #reddit
[14:36] <natalisushka> nikitis: how? My icon shows me the connection when I am in the range, should I select it? Or how can i choose to connect to a specific one?
[14:36] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I've tried wget, i've tried ssh and i've tried using vim to open them directly off the server
[14:36] <Frijolie> slart: the "volume button" on my laptop was working as I expected it to on Hardy....the upgrade to Intrepid changed it somehow
[14:36] <reqqit> &$*(&$( irc client
[14:37] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: in every scenario all I see is HTML
[14:37] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, http://pastebin.com/m46563e03
[14:37] <Slart> Frijolie: yes, I believe you on that.. I just don't think it's pulseaudio that's broken
[14:37] <nikitis> natalisushka, if there is a shield by the connection, then your router is set to use security
[14:37] <lb1> actually, since nobody is listening to me, i wanted to troll a bit, maybe someone will notice :P
[14:37] <Frijolie> slart: yes, I have been through alsa mixer many times and even have alsa-mixer-gui installed
[14:37] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That's odd, to say the least
[14:37] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:37] <bboris> where do I download  ubuntu live  cd with gparted ?
[14:37] <alpha> I cant c/a/f2 to get to a shell ... please help .. its just a black screen no video output
[14:37] <nikitis> natalisushka, if there is not just select it, and it shouldn't ask you for a passphrase,  If it's asking for you a passphrase for a keyring, just make something up and remember what it is.  that's different.
[14:37] <Slart> Frijolie: can you check the settings in system, preferences, sound? are they all set to pulseaudio?
[14:37] <natalisushka> bboris: go to www.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <Frijolie> slart: all volumes are set to 100%
[14:38] <pucko-> how can I find all installed packages that are not available in my "apt-get database"? (I want to clean out old packages after upgrade)
[14:38] <toomai> hi all
[14:38] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: But wget would not change anything on this scenario. It retrieves files through HTTP and therefore you would never get to see PHP code with it.
[14:38] <nikitis> keyring is for PAM Authentication or something, nothing to do with the connection.
[14:38] <natalisushka> nikitis, I see. I will try, thanks
[14:38] <Milos_SD> How can I fix "Error while storing folder 'Inbox' " problem with Evolution in Ibex?
[14:38] <nikitis> natalisushka, good luck
[14:38] <bboris> natalisushka i am there
[14:38] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:38] <andresj> Tyrath: maybe try ``ssh username@server``; then, inside: ``cat /path/to/file.php``. unless u already did that. :P
[14:38] <Frijolie> slart: yes, they're all set to Pulse Audio Sound Server
[14:38] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: that's not true. On Ubuntu Hardy I could see the PHP code
[14:38] <vitamin-carrot> bboris: then download the iso
[14:39] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Using wget?
[14:39] <nikki___> I have a GeForce FX 5600 GPU. Nvidia says 173.14.xx is compatible with it, but when I try it, it causes horizontal artifacts. Using 71.86.xx works though. Can someone tell me how I can get 173.14.xx drivers to work? Thanks a lot!
[14:39] <isaw> Hello. Cany anyone help with a fragged upgrade of 8.1?
[14:39] <gpled> when do you think upgrades will start showing up in Synaptic for 8.04 to 8.10 ?
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: using vim - a text editor
[14:39] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I have a Marvell n/w card and  nforce card
[14:39] <lorenzo> hi, how do i unblock the keyring once and for all?
[14:39] <Frijolie> nikitis: yeah, IMO Pulse is haphazardly thrown in to Ubuntu
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I would hook in directly to the server using vim
[14:39] <toomai> nikki___: is there a particular reason you want the 173-driver?
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: because I'm editing the server code I should technically be able to view the PHP code
[14:40]  * bboris chese
[14:40] <n8tuser> gpled-> next month?
[14:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:40] <vitamin-carrot> omg
[14:40] <stelt> Tyrath, aren't you looking into some server cache or something?
[14:40] <nikki___> toomai: I'm not sure really. I'm actually trying to get TF2 to work under Wine, but it seems that the old drivers wont let me.
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Try this and let us know of the results: scp username@hostname:/path/to/your/files/somefile.php .
[14:40] <Slart> Frijolie: and you've checked that no important volume controls are "hidden" by default in gnome-volume-control?
[14:40] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> can you do a fresh install?
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath
[14:40] <gpled> Hondo_Kitsune: you on 8.04 now?
[14:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: nope
[14:40] <Tyrath> Hondo_Kitsune: try updating your registries
[14:40] <isaw> my dog kicked out the power cord mid upgrade...  i am toast...
[14:40] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: it shows a eth0 and eth1; lines 535-537
[14:40] <slobad23> compiz is a mess - whenever i mouse over the window title bar, it all vanishes away :-S
[14:40] <Prometheus7777> hi, anyone knows how to make Audigy work in mode: 5.1 using pulseaudio? With alsa 5.1 works as expected
[14:40] <velko> csarven: i use sony vaio vgn fe 890 and have no complaints. sound, webcam, hibernation, screen dimming and sound muting all work. the blue fn keys and the volume up/down keys does not, but this is not a big deal for me
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Replace the variables properly on the command above
[14:40] <toomai> nikki___: are you wine supports this?
[14:41] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> why not? you want more hair pulling session?
[14:41] <Hondo_Kitsune> gpled: yes i am on 8.04
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, looking,
[14:41] <vitamin-carrot> Hondo_Kitsune: you might want to consider a clean install ... especially if you have anyhting installed from getdeb
[14:41] <Hondo_Kitsune> vitamin-carrot: nothing from getdeb
[14:41] <andresj> is der a way to get a list of all applications (as listed in Applications > Add/Remove...) that are installed in my computer, to then reinstall them after a fresh install?
[14:41] <csarven> velko Thanks for the info.
[14:41] <prower> Finally confirmed (unfortunately), the final version of Intrepid has bricked my e1000e network chipset on my motherboard :<
[14:41] <Frijolie> slart: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[14:41] <mrunagi> i also get xauth: error on lockout or something
[14:41] <nikki___> toomai: Yes, it does.
[14:41] <Dorobo18jp> i am trying to edit a file in text editor but it will not let me save it at all can some one help out here
[14:41] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: It's supposed to download a copy of said file to the local directory and then you should be able to see it in vi
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[14:41] <Prometheus7777> is there a gui configurator for Pulse Audio?
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, this is my mii-tool output
[14:42] <Slart> Frijolie: huh.. are you running regular ubuntu?
[14:42] <prower> If your network card is e1000e based i would strongly recommend against intrepid until they take another look into it
[14:42] <csarven> velko Others recommended netbook, ZaReason UltraLapSR
[14:42] <Hondo_Kitsune> gpled: i have tried upgrading from network and cd
[14:42] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: use ethtool instead of miitool
[14:42] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I have many problems I would like to ask about my n/w ,
[14:42] <Frijolie> Prometheus7777: glad to see that I'm not the only one having issues with PulseAudio
[14:42] <velko> csarven: hehehe - i have only one :-D
[14:42] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, like..
[14:42] <csarven> velko Need something to develop and games
[14:42] <Frijolie> slart: yes, I'm running a default install of Ubuntu (GNOME)
[14:42] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I don't think that's the way scp is supposed to be used. When I do that it merely gives me a list of scp 's commands
[14:43] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, if I unplug my ethernet cord and plug back in, link doesn't come up, even if i do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:43] <bboris> bye peoples thanks for helps
[14:43] <andresj> oh well. please PM if u kno the answer to my questions; i gotta go now. :-)
[14:43] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I will have to reboot
[14:43] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I should be able to just use wget anyway tho
[14:43] <Prometheus7777> Frijolie: yeah, everything works in pulse audio, exept subwoofer, and i don't know how to set this properly
[14:43] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> ubuntu per my experience does not handle i/o interrupt faults well
[14:43] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: and when I use wget and open the file in vim I get HTML
[14:43] <nikki___> toomai: Its ok, forget it. I'm gonna get a new computer soon, with a new graphics card, so I'll just reboot into Windows whenever I need to play it now. :)
[14:43] <Linc> oh,my god,so many guys
[14:43] <nikki___> Linc: Why? YOu a girl?
[14:44] <toomai> I am on Ubuntu 8.10, wine 1.1.7 installed, msttcorefonst installed, WoW shows fonts only a few seconds after login of a character then the fonts disappear...I am on a Lenovo x200 and Intel GMA x4500...anyone got an idea?
[14:44] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: thats funny; see dmesg when you do the plugout and plugin
[14:44] <dA_ShArP> n8tuser, can you quote me one of your experience?
[14:44] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That was an example of its usage. You need to replace my variables with your username on the server, then the fqdn for that server, then provide the path to one of this files on the server. It will prompt you for your password and then copy the file to your machine so that you can see it.
[14:44] <ljsoftnet> where does openoffice 3 icons located?
[14:44] <pronoy> i have the essential codecs package of mplayer i need to know them how to compile the .so files and put them in /usr/lib/codecs file....btw this file doesn't exist
[14:44] <mrunagi> can someone please help me x wont start
[14:44] <pronoy> i have the essential codecs package of mplayer i need to know them how to compile the .so files and put them in /usr/lib/codecs file....btw this file doesn't exist
[14:44] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> it does not handle i/o interrupts faults, it hangs the system often
[14:44] <Slart> Frijolie: do you have a little speaker on the gnome-panel where you can control the volume? if so right click it, select open volume control
[14:44] <Dorobo18jp> can some one help me with this error Could not save the file /usr/share/screenlets/Cl…/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py.
[14:44] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I tried scp ftp://username:password@address.com/file.php and it didn't work
[14:44] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> it does not handle i/o interrupts faults well*, it hangs the system often
[14:44] <dr_willis> pronoy,  why not use the w32codecs packages from medubunti repository?
[14:45] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: You can also enter the IP address instead of the FQDN of that server, of course.
[14:45] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, actually I didn;t use my other card , until I bough my new notebook
[14:45] <Frijolie> Slart, no I don't have the applet running on my gnome-panel
[14:45] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Do not type ftp. scp and ftp are different things
[14:45] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, my desktop is connected to internet
[14:45] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: that only proves you dont know the scp command; it is scp user@address.com:/path/to/remote/file localfile
[14:45] <Geckooooo> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu JeOS for the purposes of running vmware server and doing some 2:1 consolidations.  I'll be running this on a raid5 system w/intel matrix storage controller.  How can I get JeOS to notify me of a Raid5 failure or problem?
[14:46] <Slart> Frijolie: that's odd.. I thought it did that by default... have you uninstalled stuff from the system?
[14:46] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Try scp username@address.com:/path/to/your/files/somefile.php .
[14:46] <alanbshepard77> I installed Ibex and now I get the error Kernel Panic - Not syncing when I boot. I used to get this error with every release until hardy but now the error is back. How can I fix the computer if it won't even boot?
[14:46] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I want to connect my laptop to my desktop and share internet something like that
[14:46] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: the server takes a password as well
[14:46] <pronoy> dr_willis: the problem is i have access to very little bandwidth right now...so i guess compilation would be the best option
[14:46] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, may be you can help me with that too?
[14:46] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: it will prompt you
[14:46] <Frijolie> slart: transmission, evolution, orca, ekiga, and...that's all I can remember
[14:46] <Tyrath> k
[14:46] <newk> compiz wil not work afta 8.10 upgrade
[14:46] <outbackwifi> !ics| dA_ShArP
[14:46] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: No need for it on this command line and not a good practice, in fact.
[14:47] <dr_willis> !info w32codecs
[14:47] <byhoo> hello
[14:47] <ljsoftnet> where does openoffice 3 icons located?
[14:47] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Although possible, it is not recommended since it will be logged into your shell history
[14:47] <Slart> Frijolie: evolution didn't bring lots of stuff with it when you uninstalled it?
[14:47] <pronoy> dr_willis: also can you guide me towards the correct samba package for hardy ?
[14:47] <dr_willis> pronoy,   no idea how big that w32codecs package is.. but i dont think its very large
[14:47] <Frijolie> ljsoftnet: there isn't OOo v3 in Intrepid..it's the older version 2.4.
[14:47] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I'm still getting just commands back
[14:47] <Geckooooo> Like... i need some kind of email notifcation to make this happen
[14:47] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, yay!
[14:48] <dr_willis> pronoy,  correct? I just install  the 'samba' and 'samba-doc' packages
[14:48] <Frijolie> slart: I can't imagine evolution taking sound down with it
[14:48] <Silvernotex> hello
[14:48] <Tyrath> hi
[14:48] <Silvernotex> lol happy halloween =P
[14:48] <pronoy> dr_willis: any way i can get their .deb packages ?
[14:48] <Silvernotex> lol <--- ubuntu new person >.>
[14:48]  * Tyrath is seriously contemplating rolling back to hardy considering ibex will refuse to let him see PHP code
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: ah.. it doesn't any more.. it used to remove lots and lots of stuff before.. well.. lets continue..
[14:49]  * outbackwifi would seriously advise Tyrath to do just that
[14:49] <Frijolie> slart: thanks for trying so hard to help me by the way
[14:49] <psusi> not let you see php code?  what you talking 'bout willis?
[14:49] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Nautilus supposedly lets you see external resources through SSH, kinda similar to the fish:// KIOSlave on Konqueror and then you should be able to open the files from the GUI with gvim or gedit. Would that work out for you?
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: try installing alsa-utils, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[14:49] <Silvernotex> Is it worth going from 8.04 to 8.10?
[14:49] <dr_willis> pronoy,  what deb?  their who? you can always grab .deb packages from the various ftp servers I  guess.. i just checked w32codecs - its 13 mb or so in size.
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: no worries.. I wouldn't be in this channel if I didn't want to help =)
[14:50] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I'm not familiar with Nautilus but that should be easy to accomplish...
[14:50] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I shouldn't have to. When an OS is upgraded it should provide additional functionality, not reduce functionality already present
[14:50] <n8tuser> Silvernotex-> read up on why you need to upgrade, what is the need?
[14:50] <toomai> I am on Ubuntu 8.10, wine 1.1.7 installed, msttcorefonst installed, WoW shows fonts only a few seconds after login of a character then the fonts disappear...I am on a Lenovo x200 and Intel GMA x4500...anyone got an idea?
[14:50] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: you are blaming your inefficiencies on the OS :)
[14:50] <Silvernotex> well, I dont see any need but..
[14:50] <Silvernotex> =/
[14:50]  * outbackwifi is reminded of "A bad workman blames his tools"
[14:50] <Silvernotex> i dl'd it and burned to a CD already.
[14:51] <Silvernotex> lol
[14:51] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I still fail to understand what the newest release could have done to prevent you from being able to see these files. Something tells me that there is something missing or not quite right on your workflow
[14:51] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I did NOT have to do anything. I could simply just access PHP code using hardy. I can't using ibex
[14:51] <Silvernotex> just wondering wether or not to update =/
[14:51] <n8tuser> Silvernotex-> no one is twisting your arm, you can try and help troubleshoot upgrades perhaps
[14:51] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: i give up
[14:51] <dr_willis> Silvernotex,  just go for it...
[14:51] <kriston> Tyrath: That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
[14:51] <pronoy> dr_willis: i couldn't find the exact samba package on package.ubuntu.com and where do i download the w32codecs and how do i install them ?
[14:51] <Dorobo18jp> can some one help me out i am editing a .py file and for some reason i can save it or overwrite
[14:51] <Slart> !info gnome-volume-manager | Frijolie
[14:51] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I've downloaded all the updates and everything
[14:51] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Would you mind describing step by step what you used to do to reach those files?
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. nevermind.. I don't think that's it
[14:52] <dr_willis> pronoy,  medibuntu repository/servers have w32codecs.. download them and double click..  or use the command like  sudo dpkg -i  whatever.deb
[14:52] <Tyrath> kriston: well if I could show you what happens, you could see for yourself
[14:52] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: you are saving to a location that you dont have permission to write; do a gksu gedit your.py
[14:52] <Frijolie> slart: alsa-utils is already the newest version
[14:52] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Would you mind describing step by step what you used to do to reach those files?
[14:52] <dr_willis> pronoy,  as for samba. it proberly has several dependencies
[14:52] <Silvernotex> cool, I might just go update now lol
[14:52] <Silvernotex> brb!
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: ok.. gnome-media was the name of the package with the volume control
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: sudo apt-get install gnome-media
[14:52] <Shinobu> whoops
[14:52] <Frijolie> slart: I guess I was missing that one, because it's installing
[14:53] <Frijolie> slart: hth
[14:53] <dr_willis> pronoy,  http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20071007-0medibuntu3_i386.deb
[14:53] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I open up vim. I type, e: ftp://location.com/file.php . I enter my username. I enter my password. The php file opens but only shows HTML code
[14:53] <pronoy> dr_willis: damn ! ok i guess i will install the w32codecs....by the way anything you know about how to play rmvb files without real media player
[14:53] <Slart> Frijolie: ah..  then you should be able to run the volume control
[14:53] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Everything that you said so far leads me to believe that you're trying to open these files through HTTP. That will not work out no matter what. All that you get that way will be HTML.
[14:53] <Tom_Davis> hmmm ibex is confuzzled, says my hdd is scsi
[14:53] <dr_willis> pronoy,  nope.. i cant rember the last time i found a  rmvb file
[14:53] <abbas> hi
[14:53] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: ^ look at my last page. ftp://
[14:54] <Tyrath> page = post
[14:54] <dr_willis> Tom_Davis,  ide drives have been addressed with the sd## format for some time now. :)
[14:54] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: even hardy and feisty before that did that
[14:54] <abbas> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:54] <pronoy> dr_willis: thanks i'll get back to you if i have any other problem....i really have to find samba
[14:54] <outbackwifi> !hi | abbas
[14:54] <Linc> ...................so many people........................
[14:54] <Slart> abbas: please.. stop eating so much sugar.. calm down
[14:54] <Slart> abbas: =)
[14:54] <Tom_Davis> outbackwifi: I am installing hardy now, due to some problems with ibex, and it says ide
[14:54] <abbas> ok
[14:54] <dr_willis> Linc,  actually this is rahter low :)
[14:54] <nikitis> I'm back
[14:55] <Linc> oh,
[14:55] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: is it an ide or a sata disk?
[14:55] <Tom_Davis> ide laptop
[14:55] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: but DeadFishMan I can see what your reasoning is. It is as if when I try to access files using ftp requests it sends http requests
[14:55] <Tom_Davis> older than god's parents
[14:55] <Linc> good to learn English & Linux
[14:55] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: oh ok
[14:55] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: it is extremely odd
[14:55] <nikitis> Anyone know how to have the metacity look but using 3D effects?
[14:55] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That's what I was thinking, yes.
[14:55] <Frijolie> slart: everything is not hidden and set to 100%
[14:55] <abbas> i whant Live Cd For Wireless Hacking
[14:55] <n8tuser> Tom_Davis-> ide are simulated as scsi  in ubuntu -- notice the /dev/sdX  as opposed to /dev/hdX
[14:55] <flemota> hello, i want to use envy but i cant
[14:56] <abbas> i want   Live Cd For Wireless Hacking
[14:56] <Tyrath> I'm suprised noone else seems to be facing the same issues. Does noone else develop web pages in a server side scripting language?
[14:56] <Tom_Davis> n8tuser: ok, just wondering hardy says ide ibex says scsi
[14:56] <the|Navigator> Hi, I'm having problems on update manager - It keeps claiming all the GPG keys are wrong for the servers
[14:56] <outbackwifi> !repeat | abbas
[14:56] <monk12> hello all, just curious. what does patch -p0 do. the manual makes it seem like filename isnt modified in patch. but when run inside "themodule_orig/", "themodule_orig/" from "+++ themodule_orig/components/file.inc", seems to be stripped so it can run relatively
[14:56] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I do occasionally, but I have never seen anything like that and I don't actually use Ubuntu at all :)
[14:56] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:56] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> what issue?
[14:56] <Tyrath> the|Navigator: my advice is not to use the update manager. use sudo-apt get update and upgrade instead
[14:56] <monk12> i would assume -p1 does that first strip up to that leading slash
[14:57] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I have intrepid
[14:57] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I was just lurking and thought that I could be helpful
[14:57] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:57] <Slart> Frijolie: sigh.. and the volume for flash is very low? normal system sounds are lower than normal but not as low as flash?
[14:57] <outbackwifi> monk12: -p indicates patch level (a quick man patch will show you)
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I just want the odds and ends of updates
[14:57] <bingungajaa> why's my totem player get freeze everytime i try to play DVD ?
[14:57] <xukun> How can I get Network Manager to stop asking you for your keyring password?
[14:57] <monk12> yes i manned, but didnt understand it so much.
[14:57] <Tyrath> the|Navigator: you will get everything using apt
[14:57] <Slart> Linc: don't take polls here.. there is a bot in another channel for doing that
[14:57] <Slart> !best | Linc
[14:57] <darkvertex> !ot > Linc
[14:57] <abbas> i want programs hacker ‎ubuntu‎
[14:57] <Tyrath> n8tuser: I can't see PHP in files I open off a webserver
[14:57] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> perhaps you can look at the looks  /var/log/messages for any clue?
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I'd prefer a GUI, and it still doesn't explain why all the GBG keys are borked.
[14:58] <the|Navigator> *GPG
[14:58] <Linc> you all speack too fast.
[14:58] <monk12> outbackwifi: the manual seems to indicate -p0 wouldnt strip anything from their example.
[14:58] <Linc> I can catch
[14:58] <Linc> I can't catch
[14:58] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:58] <abbas> i want programs hacker ‎ubuntu‎
[14:58] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> server scripting?  i thought you meant like jsp or java or xml..not php
[14:58] <monk12> outbackwifi: what exactly does it strip to? didnt understand 'pacth level'. sorry just need a little clarification.
[14:59] <velko> abbas: you don't make any sense
[14:59] <abbas> i want programs hacker ‎ubuntu‎
[14:59] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : what do u mean ?
[14:59] <outbackwifi> monk12: that would not be a ubuntu question, you should ask in a developer channel :)
[14:59] <slayton> abbas, this isn;t the place go somewhere else
[14:59] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> you do like to pull your hair out..hehe, i suggest a fresh install but you dont want, so continue on
[14:59] <abbas> what
[14:59] <slayton> msg ubottu !help
[14:59] <monk12> k. sorry.
[14:59] <Frijolie> slart: yeah, flash--sometimes--is so low I can't hear it. However, even listening to music in Rhythmbox the volume is low enough to not be able to hear it 10ft away. Also while watching DVDs I have to sit right in front of the laptop in order to hear them
[14:59] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> perhaps you can look at the looks  /var/log/messages for any clue?  look in this file
[14:59] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I come here for help and this is all i get. you are supposed to help with problems not curcumvent them.
[14:59] <abbas> مافي احد عربي هنااا
[14:59] <magnetron> hi, i upgraded to intrepid but the notification icon for transmission diappeared. how do i get it back?
[15:00] <Slart> Frijolie: do you know what the onboard soundcard chip is called?
[15:00] <Tyrath> n8tuser: you don't need java or jsp to develop webpages. However if you are accessing data and sending data to a database you will need a server scripting language
[15:00] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> then dig up and start coding perhaps? this is not the channel for that
[15:00] <ingmar__> I cant get my wireless internet working... http://paste.ubuntu.com/65226/ I have the proprietary drivers, but its not showing up in network settings..
[15:00] <Linc> See you next time...
[15:00] <ingmar__> can anyone help me?
[15:00] <magnetron> !arabic | abbas
[15:00] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: this is a help channel and I am asking for help
[15:00] <Tyrath> n8tuser: if you've ever heard of dynamic web pages you will know what I'm talking about
[15:00] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi thank that did but i just lock up the screenlet app lol
[15:00] <Slart> Frijolie: "cat /proc/asound/cards" will give you a list of soundcards
[15:00] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : sorry ? come again ? what file ?
[15:00] <outbackwifi> magnetron: in preferences theres an option to show in system tray
[15:00] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: what did?
[15:01] <ingmar__> I cant get my wireless internet working... http://paste.ubuntu.com/65226/ I have the proprietary drivers, but its not showing up in network settings..
[15:01] <slayton> !wifi
[15:01] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> yes its a help channel, but no one yet fully understand what your issues are, so hang around longer and dont pester every five minutes, perhaps wait 30 mins or so
[15:01] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ in which tab?
[15:01] <ingmar__> Yes but i dont understand it
[15:01] <Frijolie> slart:  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[15:01] <Frijolie>                       HDA Intel at 0xf6300000 irq 22
[15:01] <outbackwifi> magnetron: edit
[15:01] <Dorobo18jp> i was editing the clearweatherscreenlet .py file as to the web instuctions and not locked it up and still dont work lol
[15:01] <Tyrath> !PHP
[15:01] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Why don't you try to open vim directly on the server? SSH your way into the server and the use it from there
[15:01] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> yes xml based -- look into cocoon2 if you want really bleeding edge
[15:01] <capricoRn> hi ! can anyone tell how i can improve my graphics , font effects on 8.10
[15:01] <ingmar__> bash: !wifi: event not found
[15:02] <capricoRn> secondly i want that apple desktop look
[15:02] <Hondo_Kitsune> capricoRn: buy a mac
[15:02] <abbas> الوووووو
[15:02] <abbas> i want programs hacker ‎ubuntu‎
[15:02] <Hondo_Kitsune> capricoRn: Just kidding. go to ubuntu-look.org i think it is
[15:02] <outbackwifi> !wifi | ingmar_
[15:02] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. HDA Intel is a very common soundcard.. I have one too by.. shouldn't be a problem.. hang on.. let me think a minute here
[15:02] <bazhang> abbas, not here
[15:02] <Tyrath> n8tuser: xml is just meaningful HTML marked up using a CSS file
[15:02] <bazhang> !awn
[15:02] <abbas> where
[15:03] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ no, i mean which tab in the preferences? i see 5 tabs but non of them mention any icon
[15:03] <Tyrath> n8tuser: XML and HTML are static and are therefore limited in what they can achieve
[15:03] <JesperHansen> After the Upgrade I am missing the mouse management and the window management for which allows me to enable sloppy focus (focus follows mouse). What package provides the managers?
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you tried googling for you problem?  This was one of the first hits http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180411
[15:03] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi i followed theseinstctions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784053
[15:03] <pjKevin> update servers are really slow because of everyone getting 8.10 right?
[15:03] <outbackwifi> magnetron: in transmission, i dont get any tabs at all
[15:03] <DeadFishMan> For those using BitchX, just punch it in: /ignore abbas all
[15:03] <X3> where would be a good place to recruit some coders for a new project
[15:03] <flema_> #ubuntu-es
[15:03] <pjKevin> because i'm getting sloooooow downloads
[15:03] <Slart> pjKevin: yes.. try using a mirror
[15:03] <slayton> Seriously people if you haven't tried fixing your problems via GOOGLE first then you really shouldn't be here
[15:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: but i am updating to 8.10 not 6.056
[15:03] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ don't you have any tabs in your intrepid transmission preferences window?
[15:03] <slayton> B/C 99% of you problems have the solutions linked to google
[15:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> *6.06
[15:03] <Tom_Davis> !google
[15:03] <DeathWolf> -!- No results found
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes but the solution is probably related
[15:03] <velko> JesperHansen: i think that this is a feature of the window manager
[15:03] <pjKevin> k thnx
[15:03] <outbackwifi> magnetron: ah im still on hardy
[15:03] <n8tuser> Tyrath there is more to it, xml based does not mean only xml, other things like xsl and java, etc.. look into cocoon2 for an eye opening bleeding edge tech, it is apache supported
[15:03] <justyna> Hello
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you tried to solution proposed by the thread?
[15:04] <thiebaude> capricoRn:check this out,http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin/
[15:04] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Please follow the instruction on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades carefully.
[15:04] <capricoRn> ok
[15:04] <the|Navigator> If I use SSH to access a system, is it possible to create a notification window (like with an OK button) on the user's computer?
[15:04] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: yeah, that will help with Ibex
[15:04] <justyna> I get wrong md5sum after download of 8.10 desktop i386 torrent
[15:04] <foorilious> after install intrepid but keeping my old .zshrc, when I recall a command from command history in zsh, the cursor is now placed at the beginning of the line.  How can I make it go back to placing it at the end of the line?
[15:04] <magnetron> hi, i upgraded to intrepid but the notification icon for transmission diappeared. how do i get it back?
[15:04] <JesperHansen> velko: yup. But I've missed the package that provides me the method to enable it.
[15:04] <Frijolie> slart: it's been this way ever since Hardy--it's nothing new, only worse, in Intrepid
[15:04] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Why don't you try to open vim directly on the server? SSH your way into the server and then use it from there. Isn't that an option?
[15:04] <justyna> What could be the reason?
[15:04] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune,  I know its from Dapper, but the issue is a rare one and its probably caused by the same bug... Have you tried the workaround yet?
[15:04] <Slart> Frijolie: can you do this for me, "dmesg | grep -i hda"
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: you mean, fresh install
[15:05] <Slart> Frijolie: and see if you find anything that looks like an error or warning
[15:05] <JesperHansen> velko: it was System>Preferences>Windows
[15:05] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> there are several steps you go through from 6.06 to 8.10 not worth the hazzle..
[15:05] <Trackilizer> Hi everyone. Just upgraded to 8.10 and the nvidia drivers are gone, and nothing shows up in "Hardware Drivers" how do i restore the drivers?
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I am goign from 8.04 to 8.10
[15:05] <X3> any coders here intersted in starting a new project
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I don;t have 6.06
[15:05] <magnetron> Trackilizer→ which graphics card you have?
[15:05] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> okay
[15:05] <bazhang> X3, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <Slart> X3: post a message in the forums.. I think you'll get better answers
[15:05] <Frijolie> slart: [   14.216253] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
[15:05] <Frijolie> [   14.216286] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[15:05] <Frijolie> [  250.268644] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
[15:05] <Tyrath> n8tuser: nope. java is a sun technology. java is a lot more powerful a technology than XML. XML is only a markup language, java is a programming language. You can develop full working applications in java, if you achieve the same thing in XML I would be very impressed
[15:06] <thiebaude> !enter
[15:06] <X3> details are on http://tinyurl.com/6jblvu
[15:06] <X3> kk
[15:06] <Trackilizer> magnetron,  Geforce 9200
[15:06] <velko> Tyrath, n8tuser this is really offtopic, guys
[15:06] <LimCore> why kde apps seem to crash so often
[15:06] <n8tuser> Tyrath have you looked at what i suggeste ie  cocoon2? its an eye opener, come on get a taste of it, and tell me if xml base framework is really limited
[15:06] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/146536
[15:06] <capricoRn> chrome is available for ubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:06] <kanuha> trying to boot up Ubuntu 8.10 on my 1080p tv, but when it comes up my tv says not supported mode
[15:07] <bazhang> !bugs | LimCore
[15:07]  * outbackwifi has decided not to upgrade for a month at least
[15:07] <magnetron> Trackilizer→ did you read what the release notes say about geforce 9200?
[15:07] <Rotlaus_> I've deleted some 'Meta Modes' in nvidia-settings. How can i get them back?
[15:07] <bazhang> capricoRn, no
[15:07] <capricoRn> ok
[15:07] <JesperHansen> Anyone noticed that System>Preferences>Windows is gone in 8.10?
[15:07] <Tyrath> velko: sorry. it's just I'm not finding a solution to my problem
[15:07] <bingungajaa> why is my totem always freeze when playing dvd (please see the screenshot http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png )
[15:07] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi any ideas ?
[15:07] <Slart> Frijolie: what's the name of the motherboard?
[15:07] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: sorry what was your issue again?
[15:08] <magnetron> JesperHansen→ "windows"? isn't that just the wine config tool? look in the wine category instead
[15:08] <Trackilizer> magnetron, no, what did they say? it wont work?
[15:08] <Dorobo18jp> may i pm you?
[15:08] <Frijolie> slart: I'm not sure, it's a Toshiba Satellite laptop
[15:08] <Tyrath> n8tuser: we've been asked to stop this discussion. Let's not continue. I suggest you wiki both technologies
[15:08] <magnetron> !notes | Trackilizer
[15:08] <keys> No System>Preferences>Windows is here on mine
[15:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: No help there
[15:08] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: i charge $40 for pm sessions :)
[15:08] <foorilious> after install intrepid but keeping my old .zshrc, when I recall a command from command history in zsh, the cursor is now placed at the beginning of the line.  How can I make it go back to placing it at the end of the line?
[15:08] <roffe> how do I get xserver-xgl? tha package cannot be found
[15:08] <roffe> how do I get xserver-xgl? tha package cannot be found
[15:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: thanks anyway
[15:08] <Dorobo18jp> lol ok you pm me lol
[15:09] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I'm getting ssh: Could not resolve hostname
[15:09] <slayton> did you try: sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[15:09] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: have you got a backup of your xorg.conf?
[15:09] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: thats a call back so itll be double for that
[15:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: that is not to perform a distribution upgrade tho
[15:09] <Dorobo18jp> lol
[15:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: it also screws up GNOME according to the page
[15:09] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: and I know the file exists because if I load it up in HTML it does load up
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, ok well then I'd do a fresh install if I were you, and if you have a seperate /home partition you don't have to worry about losing your settings
[15:10] <roffe> Isn't xserver xgl available?
[15:10] <farfadet> #ubuntu fr
[15:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I don't have one as far as i am aware
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, just generate a list of installed packages
[15:10] <Dorobo18jp> ok i edited my ClearWeatherScreenlet.py file and was able to save per this fourm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784053 and now the screentlet is locked up i cant remove it and still dont work
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you have a /home dir
[15:10] <farfadet> how can i go on the french server?
[15:10] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: Yes, but it doesn't differ from my current. These resolution setting shown in nvidia-config are not there, anyway.
[15:10] <keys> The only problem I have had my nic eth1 failed to work wlan0 was ok
[15:10] <bazhang> farfadet, /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:10] <JesperHansen> magnetron: no. This thing is missing: http://vlsitechnology.org/html/livecd_help6.html
[15:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I do, but it is on my root partition as far as i am aware
[15:11] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, back up /home then when you re-install create a seperate partition for /home, this will make clean installs easier in the future
[15:11] <Guillem_> Is there any way to install g77 in Intrepid??? gcc-3.something is still there, but not g77 !!!
[15:11] <keys> Now for some reason "Good" all is working
[15:11]  * Tyrath is going to try the french channel as well to see if he can get a solution there
[15:11] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune,  its a little more work but its the best thing you could possibly do, I was a little apprehensive about creating a /home partition but it was the greatest thing I did
[15:11] <CheezeDoodle> Hi, is anyone familiar with Octoshape? It's a streaming client.
[15:11] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. there's an old fix that seems to have helped some people with toshiba laptops..I'm not sure it will help you but it ought to be a quick solution if it works
[15:11] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: what metamodes options that was deleted?
[15:11] <jrib> CheezeDoodle: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[15:11] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I will lose all my software and configs for the software. I recently did a clean install and I am not doing it again. It should be SIMPLE to upgrade. Isn't that a PLUS POINT of Ubuntu anyway.
[15:12] <aedh> Hello everyone.  I was wondering, why do I have to run fglrxinfo, or glxinfo as root?  I keep getting some Xreply assertion error.
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can somebody tell me how long can take uppgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 on adsl 512kbps?
[15:12] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, it will save you a lot of pain, you can do clean installs, have several different distros installed and they can all share a common /home partition
[15:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> AKADEMIK2283MCZ: Very ver very long
[15:12] <Slart> Frijolie: it involves adding a line to the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and doing a reboot
[15:12] <squidly> AKADEMIK2283MCZ: a while
[15:12] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, couple of hours
[15:12] <squidly> I'm on a 300M connection at work and it still took me a couple of hours
[15:12] <Frijolie> slart: i'm willing to do whatever it takes
[15:12] <n8tuser> AKADEMIK2283MCZ-> 740 megs is a long download specially if the servers are very busy
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> but downloading alternate disk
[15:12] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: can you pastebin the .py that you edited?
[15:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, what about my software installed and software configs. Wallpaper, themes, all the stuff that is kept in random places in /
[15:12] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes that is a plus point, but think about it this way... right now something is broken, its unclear what is broken but something IS broken, its preventing you from doing the clean upgrade. Doing a clean fresh install will do 2 things
[15:12] <Skriptkid> hi
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> is can take also long
[15:13] <Dorobo18jp> yes wait one
[15:13] <Slart> Frijolie: ok, "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[15:13] <squidly> i;m hainvg an issue removing linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, it will get rid of what is broken and also it will allow you to create a /home partition
[15:13] <Skriptkid> Please can any one help me
[15:13] <squidly> It keeps crashing out
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> i downloaded 8.10 instalation
[15:13] <outbackwifi> !please| Skriptkid
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, all of the personalizations should be saved under /home
[15:13] <bazhang> ask Skriptkid
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can i use this
[15:13] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: In nvidia-settings i go on 'X Server Display Configuration, go on to X-Screen, click on Advanced aMetaModes.nd the there are these
[15:13] <roffe> if I write a script, how can I make it update itself every 25 seconds?
[15:13] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, yes
[15:13] <Slart> Frijolie: at the end of that file, add the line     options snd-hda-intel model=auto     then save and exit, reboot
[15:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I will check my partition setup
[15:13] <squidly> anyone know how I can force the removal of that package
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you shouldn't save anything except under /home
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can you tell me how?
[15:13] <outbackwifi> roffe: in crontab
[15:13] <dr_willis> roffe,  clarify what you mean.
[15:13] <flam> roffe, use cron?
[15:13] <n8tuser> roffe-> there is #bash to get help on scripting
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, besides to write outside of /home you need root privledges
[15:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> er, what is the command to access the partition manager?
[15:14] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, md5 the iso, burn to cd at low speed then do the disk integrity check
[15:14] <npnux> hi
[15:14] <dr_willis> roffe,  if you want the script to re-run every 24 sec or so.. theres the 'watch' command.
[15:14] <bazhang> !md5 | AKADEMIK2283MCZ
[15:14] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: some things needed to be sudoed into place. /home does not store everything
[15:14] <Slart> Hondo_Kitsune: gparted
[15:14] <Frijolie> slart: just like Ahnuld Swartzineger: "I'll be back"
[15:14] <Slart> Frijolie: good luck =)
[15:14] <roffe> a lot of answers there :) dr_willis: how do I use that command?
[15:14] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> i dont understand
[15:14] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, i totally understand your pain... doing clean installs sucks under windows, but once you setup a home partition you'll never think of clean installs again in the same way, they are quick, easy and painless... I've switched distributions without a blink because I had a dedicated /home partion
[15:14] <n8tuser> roffe-> there is #bash to get help on scripting
[15:15] <dr_willis> roffe,  try 'watch --help' and 'man watch' for starters
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, what kind of stuff are you saving outside of /home? and why?
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, I can't think of any programs that save user data anywhere else?
[15:15] <dr_willis> roffe,  you are not being clear on what you are doing exactly :)
[15:15] <Skriptkid> please can any one help me
[15:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: mainly software and Its config
[15:15] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: In nvidia-settings i go on 'X Server Display Configuration, go on to X-Screen, click on Advanced and then there are these Metamodes where i can select resolutions.
[15:15] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: OK, but did anything wrong  happened that was caused the removal of those metamode value?
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, unless you've installed things from souce
[15:15] <slayton> source
[15:15] <Slart> roffe: "watch ls" will run ls every 2 seconds I think and show you the result.. change that as needed
[15:15] <jrib> Skriptkid: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[15:15] <velko> Skriptkid: you haven't asked anything
[15:15] <sisseck> Could anyone tell me where the boot settings for ubuntu are located? Im using a dual boot with xp and want the computer to start xp as default
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, so the config files _should_ be saved under /home/$USER/.program
[15:15] <jrib> sisseck: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: for instance Konversation, where does it keep it's config, it took hours to setup because I have many irc networks and channels
[15:15] <squidly> sisseck: /boot/grub
[15:15] <Dorobo18jp> outback i justpmedyou dontcharge me to much
[15:16] <roffe> ok.. thanks guys! dr_willis: I need to make a scipt that updates every 25th second for my crappy graphics card that otherwise will go into low performance
[15:16] <slayton> sisseck, /boot/grub/menu.lst or something like that
[15:16] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> is it beter to sacrifice one more night to download alternate ubuntu disc?
[15:16] <Dorobo18jp> ok ﻿'http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local/17068?cc=*&dayf=10&prod=xoap&link=xoap&par=1003666583&key=41 28909340a9b2fc&unit=s&hbhf=12
[15:16] <Skriptkid> Any one knows about certified Ethical hacker? by EC-Council?
[15:16] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I tried to remove the setting my monitor doesn't support, because a game i wanna play doesn't start because my monitor goes out of sync.
[15:16] <greggman> hello..how to load manually nic that just added
[15:16] <dr_willis> roffe,  your use of the term 'updates' is vague. :)
[15:16] <squidly> Skriptkid: yea its a joke
[15:16] <bazhang> Skriptkid, that is offtopic here
[15:16] <squidly> Skriptkid: #security
[15:16] <dr_willis> roffe,  but 'watch' is a handy tool to know about
[15:16] <AgentScorpion> How do I change the list of download servers in System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From...
[15:16] <bingungajaa> why is my totem always freeze when playing dvd (please see the screenshot http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png )
[15:16] <AgentScorpion> Is there a config file somewhere controlling the list?
[15:16] <Skriptkid> Sorry for that
[15:16] <berosford> Anyone know if iPod Touch works under Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:16] <slayton> Here is all that I can recommend, back up everything.... create a seperate /home partition, and use that in the future for all config files
[15:17] <bazhang> !home
[15:17] <Skriptkid> but i need to know whether a 20 year old guy can do that course?
[15:17] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> have you looked yet in /var/log/messages for clues or hints?
[15:17] <velko> AgentScorpion: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:17] <jrib> berosford: you can't sync with it because the hashing algorithm for the ItunesDB file has not been discovered yet
[15:17] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I also have a large number of external repositories
[15:17] <berosford> Ah right
[15:17] <slayton> !offtopic | Skriptkid
[15:17] <bazhang> Skriptkid, this is ubuntu support
[15:17] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: what kind of card are you using?
[15:17] <jrib> berosford: on firmware > 2.0 anyway
[15:17] <roffe> dr_willis: the script will take it to high performance and if I don't update it it will go into low performance :( But thanks I'll check it out
[15:17] <AgentScorpion> velko: That just seems to list the repositries, not the main download servers
[15:17] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : sorry, i'd ask u, what file do u mean, i don't understand
[15:17] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: that link works just fine in a browser so that cant be the issue :)
[15:17] <Skriptkid> Im using ubuntu
[15:17] <Skriptkid> I got a problem
[15:17] <berosford> jrib, does that mean that there's no way at all of copying music over to it?
[15:17] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
[15:18] <velko> AgentScorpion: sorry, don't know
[15:18] <Skriptkid> Every thing is closing by itself
[15:18] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> have you looked yet in /var/log/messages for clues or hints?  <-- can you comprehend this or not at all?
[15:18] <squidly> Skriptkid: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html
[15:18] <htrejh> hi
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, like 3rd party repo;s you've added? not an issue backup your sources.d/ and sources and get apt to generate a list of installed packages, then re-install them after the update
 thank you
[15:18] <htrejh> i accidentaly began to format my home partitiob
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, its probably the 3rd party repos that are breaking your upgrade
[15:18] <jrib> berosford: well you can copy music to it, but you won't be able to play it (jailbreak and ssh).  Your options that I know of are to use itunes in a virtual machine (you can try wine too)
[15:18] <htrejh> how can i try to recover some files?
[15:18] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi if there are 2 of those lines should i edit both or just the one from the website
[15:18] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I disabled them all and it is still broken
[15:18] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : not i'm not looked at the file cause i don't know what file ... a little clue please
[15:18] <jrib> !recover | htrejh
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, when you upgrade APT looks for intrepid version of the hardy debs if the repos don't have them then apt doesn't know what to do
[15:19] <aedh> I got the new ati driver, but now I have to run all GL  apps as root.  Why?  How can I fix it?
[15:19] <berosford> Thanks very much
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, right but the hardy debs are still installed
[15:19] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> /var/log/messages
[15:19] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: let me check, you might have to edit/create edid.bin file to remove unwanted resolutions
[15:19] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: there  should only be one line take outr the othe
[15:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: yeah, so i should change my repos from hardy to intrepid
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, and the packages need to be removed and then re-installed
[15:19] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: there  should only be one line take out the other
[15:19] <Dorobo18jp> ok
[15:19] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> please read a tutorial on linux -- how to use log files
[15:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: do you think doing that would work?
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, honestly no I would do a clean install.... it sounds like a lot of work but I PROMISE it will save you time... its going to be a nightmare to upgrade all the packages
[15:20] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : ok, brb
[15:20] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I have deleted them in nvidia-setting, i want them back, because i deleted the wrong one.
[15:20] <Frijolie> slart: i'm testing it...
[15:20] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, where as if you do a clean install you can create the /home which I CAN"T EMPHASIZE enough (if you haven't figured that out yet ;-) )
[15:20] <DeadFishMan> To the person asking how to send a GUI message to someone else logged into his/her system, try kdialog --display :0 --msgbox "Your message here". The catch is that due to the way how X is setup in most distros, sometimes not even root can connect to a X session from other user, so this has to be issued using that person's user account (either through sudo or su should work ok)
[15:20] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, i have a 40gb hdd, so having a separate /home would really bugger things up for me
[15:20] <Dorobo18jp> outcackwifi i just pmed youed the actual code
[15:20] <Dorobo18jp> oops outbackwifi
[15:20] <slayton> do you have a CD burner? Ipod? External HDD?
[15:21] <slayton> DVD Bung[Linux]
[15:21] <slayton> DVD Burner?
[15:21] <slayton> !home
[15:22] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: your xorg.conf file you're currently using, it created by nvidia-settings? do you still have the original one made by ubuntu install?
[15:22] <Frijolie> slart: can't really tell a difference
[15:22] <kanuha> trying to boot up Ubuntu 8.10 on my 1080p tv, but when it comes up my tv says not supported mode. is there a command to boot 720 or 1080?
[15:23] <Slart> Frijolie: ok.. not surprising since this fix was from over a year ago.. but there's more stuff to try.. have a look at this webpage http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt
[15:23] <seclm193> if I had ubuntu 8.10 beta, do i need to reinstall or something
[15:23] <gil> what would you guys pay for an EN7950 GT 512mb?
[15:23] <bazhang> seclm193, just keep update to final
[15:23] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, either path you chose to take will be a lot of work (using non supported repos really mucks things ups, and for the most part should be avoided)  but I'm guessing that the odds of the auto-upgrade working are less then 50% the odds of the clean install working are 100%
[15:23] <sisseck> Thanks for the boot help, second question. What package do i need to install to get advanced settings for desktop effects. Running clean install of 8.10
[15:23] <Slart> Frijolie: search for "snd-hda-intel"
[15:23] <bazhang> gil, ask in ##hardware not here
[15:23] <ikonia> gil: try ##hardware
[15:23] <ikonia> bazhang: too quick
[15:23] <seclm193> bazhang, how do i update to final
[15:23] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, I'm not trying to be a prick or a jerk, its just what I've learned through painful experience
[15:24] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: upgrade is supposed to work, i really don't want to clean install
[15:24] <mystery> Hello Everyone
[15:24] <bazhang> seclm193, sudo apt-get update   then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:24] <amikrop_> Hello. Audacious 1.5.1 has a very serious bug, not playing the music file the user double clicked on, but playing an old playlist. This bug has been fixed in next versions of Audacious, so I really believe, the Ubuntu team should package an update for 1.5.1, as soon as possible.
[15:24] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I just don't have the time
[15:24] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: depending on the state of your system when you upgraded it can cause problems
[15:24] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: the betas had some issues
[15:24] <seclm193> bazhang, thanks
[15:24] <squiddy> hi.. is it okay if i use interpid repo on hardy ?
[15:24] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:24] <NET||abuse> hi all, anyone know if it's possible to just sync podcasts on the iphone 3g from ubuntu? without hacking the iphone?
[15:24] <DeadFishMan> Gotta go eat something
[15:24] <bazhang> squiddy, no
[15:24] <gil> sory
[15:24] <n8tuser> slayton i tried to convince him several times, but...he choosed to continue on..some people are just...
[15:24]  * DeadFishMan waves good bye
[15:24] <ikonia> NET||abuse: iphone = no
[15:24] <gil> wrong board
[15:24] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes it is SUPPOSED to work, I've only seen it work reliably 1 time... From what you've explained to me the getting the upgrade to work will probably take twice as much time as the clean install
[15:24] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: No, it's already gone. The current and the backup are both form nvidia-settings. Can i restore the Ubuntu one?
[15:24] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : read the /message, so what actually i'm looking for ?
[15:24] <squiddy> bazhang, how come ?
[15:25] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> please read a tutorial on linux -- how to use log files
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, Normal upgrades take longer then clean installs
[15:25] <NET||abuse> ikonia: damn... can your un itunes with wine and do it?
[15:25] <amikrop_> Hello. Audacious 1.5.1 has a very serious bug, not playing the music file the user double clicked on, but playing an old playlist. This bug has been fixed in next versions of Audacious, so I really believe, the Ubuntu team should package an update for 1.5.1, as soon as possible. Is there any progress about this?
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, normally about 3-4 hours
[15:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, i will check if i have a /home partition then
[15:25] <violinappren> hi all, trying to install (kubuntu) intrepid, install now hanged on "starting acpi services" while booting, is that a known issue?
[15:25] <ikonia> meff: dp#tlmpw
[15:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I have the cd
[15:25] <ikonia> NET||abuse: don't know
[15:25] <Geckooooo> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu JeOS for the purposes of running vmware server and doing some 2:1 consolidations.  I'll be running this on a raid5 system w/intel matrix storage controller.  How can I get JeOS to notify me of a Raid5 failure or problem?
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you probably don't but you do have a /home folder
[15:25] <bazhang> squiddy, it will break things. dont even try
[15:25] <jedimindtrick> for some reason my ssh daemon doesnt seem to be running on this box, i thought its supposed to start automagically? i need an idea as to what its called and how to run it please?
[15:25] <slayton> !home | Hondo_Kitsune
[15:25] <NET||abuse> ikonia: i'll try and let you know.
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that explains how to create a /home partition
[15:25] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:25] <Slart> Frijolie: it's on line 1215
[15:25] <lopin> Okay.  Quick question.  I may have to install Ibex, rather than upgrade, cause I have that nasty ATI driver bug.  I need the Build-essential package to compile my wireless drivers from source.  I need some way to download build-essential, and it's dependencies, for Intrepid.  I've already got APTonCD, so if that can help, then awesome.  Anyone have any ideas?
[15:25] <squiddy> bazhang, ok thanks
[15:25]  * ThipThip is having serious issues installing on a 250GB Hard Drive
[15:26] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: nom you cannot restore, but if you're using Hardy, I have a copy that I can paste iin paste bin.
[15:26] <ikonia> lopin: plug a cable in and download
[15:26] <newk> jus upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and compiz not workign
[15:26] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex:  I'm on Intrepid
[15:26] <slayton> lopin, you can download the debs from the internet, save them on the thumbdrive and then install them with : sudo dpkg -i <program>.deb
[15:26] <bazhang> newk, compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[15:26] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: looks like running that could really screw up
[15:26] <lopin> ikonia, Not an option. This laptop only has Wireless Connectivity, and is going to be doing internet sharing for every other computer I have access to.
[15:27] <ThipThip> So I installed Ubuntu on a 250GB hard drive, everything went fine.  However, when I rebooted, I got GRUB Error 18.  No problem, I installed again, this time putting a 10MB /boot partition at the beginning of the drive.  Now, I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)"
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, either way you've got your self in a bad position
[15:27] <mystery> I have been trying to to update my system from 8.04 to 8.10. My first attempt resulted in my computer freezing and me having to restart without it completing the upgrade. Now that I have restarted I cant upgrade my system. I get an error "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible"
[15:27] <Frijolie> slart: how do I know that one is mine?
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, and getting out is going to take time and be painful
[15:27] <ikonia> lopin: your using a wirles only laptop as a device for internet sharing
[15:27] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi doyou want me to send you the .py file ?
[15:27] <mystery> can someone please help
[15:27] <ikonia> lopin: what model laptop is it
[15:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: how is it my fault that ubuntu screwed up like it is not supposed to
[15:27] <Frijolie> slart: it first pointed to line 739
[15:27] <mikejet> What is this new "Debian base-system miscellaneous files" Security Update. I don't see it on the webpage list.
[15:27] <lopin> slayton, build-essential has a lot of dependencies, as it's only a meta-package (?).  Is there a simple way to download all of the dependencies in one fell swoop?
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, If I were you I'd find an ipod, external HDD to back up too, copy over your entire HDD and then do a complete clean install
[15:27] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: what issue are you actually having
[15:28] <Hondo_Kitsune> ikonia: Trying to run a distribution upgrade, but it won't let me
[15:28] <lopin> ikonia, Acer Aspire 5050.  I have to use the new Madwifi HAL to get the wireless working, henceforth why I have to build it from source.
[15:28] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: well, there is the option of creating edid.bin from nvidia-settings. Create that now and save it somewhere. Then edit it using a hex tool.
[15:28] <exibo> i need help with getting windows added into bootloader menu. fdisk -l and gparted are saying different things
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, by installing 3rd party repos you've taken yourself outside the supported realm of ubuntu, you are no longer a position they consider when upgrading
[15:28] <mystery>  I have been trying to to update my system from 8.04 to 8.10. My first attempt resulted in my computer freezing and me having to restart without it completing the upgrade. Now that I have restarted I cant upgrade my system. I get an error "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible" can someone please help me get upgraded to 8.10
[15:28]  * ThipThip needs some GRUB love.
[15:28] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: what do you mean it won't let me, can you be a bit more detailed
[15:28] <jedimindtrick> for some reason i seem to be missing sshd ... how would i get that ?
[15:28] <velko> ThipThip: what is the layout of this disk (which partitions)? is this the first hdd (hda) or something else?
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, upgrades are supported for supported systems which your system isn't
[15:28] <bazhang> !grub | exibo
[15:28] <Slart> Frijolie: ah, my bad
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that is what happens when you use 3rd party repos
[15:28] <ikonia> ThipThip: just ask the question instead of random /me commands
[15:28] <bazhang> exibo, see the first link
[15:28] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:28] <sisseck> mystery: cant you just do a fresh install of ubuntu?
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, which by the way could contain malicious software
[15:28] <Slart> Frijolie: it's line 739
[15:29] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I'll just check my second machine for the original xorg.conf
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: how are you on the internet now ?
[15:29] <mystery> I dont want to loose my files
[15:29] <Slart> Frijolie: you see there are a gazillion different models?
[15:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: right FINE. I will screw around with my partitioning. I hope to hell my Konversation config is unaffected, it is the important thing
[15:29] <tony__> I have a question about installing from a USB drive
[15:29] <exibo> bazhang: i had windows installed first
[15:29] <mker> How can I make Vuze (in classic mode so it acts like Azureus) download everything file order, not spread out all over?
[15:29] <lopin> ikonia, I'm on Hardy.  I've already built the drivers for this kernel.
[15:29] <mikejet> What webpage lists the official security updates? I'm not convinved today's is legit - there's no file info in the description.
[15:29] <ThipThip> velko:  It is the first hard drive.  The layout is, in this order:  /boot - 10MB, / - 249GB, swap - 1GB
[15:29] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, if you back it up then you don't have to worry about it
[15:29] <exibo> bazhang: and ubuntu screwed my windows partition im afraid
[15:29] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, Always back up before messing with partitions
[15:29] <tony__> Can you only do that with the 'low power' architectures, or can you install from a usb drive with any image
[15:29] <bazhang> exibo, what happened to grub?
[15:29] <Bit_Breaker> Hello all
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: how did you do that for hardy ?
[15:29] <Slart> Frijolie: try running lspci in a terminal to see a list of all your connected devices.. see if you can find the audio chip there
[15:29] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: that would be MUCH better, since then you wouldn't have to mess around with edid.bin
[15:29] <aedh> where can I find help for the fglrx driver? thank you.
[15:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I cannot back it up, i do not have a clue where konversation keeps it's damn config
[15:29] <lopin> ikonia, Hard line to the interwebs is in my roommate's room.  He's left, and I can't get in to get a connection.
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: just trying to understand why you can't do what you did for hardy for interipd
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: ive got two hard drives
[15:30] <bpgoldsb> Anyone here using preseeding with a partitioning scheme, who can post [some of] their preseed configuration file for me?
[15:30] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, didn't you edit it?
[15:30] <Slart> Frijolie: you might be able to do "lspci | grep -i audio" to get a smaller list
[15:30] <velko> ThipThip: and boot is hda1, / is hda2 and swap hda3?
[15:30] <Bit_Breaker> i have recently had trouble with my display settings. Ubuntu 8.04.
[15:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Konversation is an irc client
[15:30] <Bit_Breaker> v2.6-24-21
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: ive installed ubuntu on the second, clear hd
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: and when i tried to reboot after installation
[15:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: you do the editing in the program itself
[15:30] <bazhang> exibo, where is the mbr
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: mbr?
[15:30] <sisseck> mystery: could create a backup, depends on how much data you need to save. Other than that i dont know how to get the updater to work again
[15:30] <Dorobo18jp> O an outbackwifi in case i boot myself from chat thanks for the help :)
[15:30] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, ~/.kde/ is where the config files are saved ~ is /home!
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: im afraid the grub installed to the windows hd
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: right
[15:31] <Bit_Breaker> I  had to manually change my display settings after a reboot. Can anyone help?
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> Also, I don't have gparted
[15:31] <MaxFrames> hello, please help, I've upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and lost sound completely
[15:31] <ThipThip> velko:  You know, for some reason, and I'm not sure why, it made boot hda1, / hda5, and swap hda6
[15:31] <lopin> ikonia, I have Build-Essential for Hardy.  Have that on APTonCD even.  However, when I do the upgrade, I have this nasty bug that keeps X from starting.  So, I was going to do a fresh install, so that FGLRX doesn't get involved.  However, without an internet connection to get build-essential, I can't get on the internet.  See the paradox?
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, backing up /home will protect ALL your settings, unless you installed software that is written by a retarted person that doesn't understand how to save configurations files in linux
[15:31] <bazhang> exibo, then read that link the bot gave you to fix it
[15:31] <exibo> bazhang: cuz i get grub errors even when i have my windows hard drive connected
[15:31] <exibo> bazhang: ok
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: so, just backup my home folder, format then put it back
[15:31] <painter> quit
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, EVERY single program I've ever used has saved under /home
[15:31] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: the xorg.conf on the second machine is about 11 Lines long, does that seem right?
[15:31] <ikonia> lopin: I most certainly do
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, pretty much that should do it!
[15:31] <lopin> ikonia, If I could force build-essential into the iso, then I could do it.  You would think that the alternate iso would have it, right?
[15:31] <velko> ThipThip: i suppose right now you are on the problematic machine and are using the live cd?
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: but one more thing
[15:32] <ikonia> lopin considered downloading the dvd install ?
[15:32] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Unfortunately, that will leave a lot of crap lying around because of software that is not installed anymore
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: gparted tells me that the windows hard drive is like all empty, and it is ext3
[15:32] <slayton> lopin, you could add the intrepid repos to your sources.list, then do apt-get install build-essential -d which will download but not install the packages
[15:32] <ThipThip> velko:  No, the problematic machine is a laptop, I'm on my desktop
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: fdisk -l tells me that it is ntfs
[15:32] <mr_polite> when running Advanced Desktop Effects but _not_ Emerald, an unfocused window will have a semi transparent window border. Can teh same semi-transparent effect be had on focused windows without running Emerald?
[15:32] <bazhang> exibo, that is not good
[15:32] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, what do you mean? that crap is already there, no new crap will be created
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: :/
[15:33] <rapha> Hi all!
[15:33] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_: yes, as long as these is something link the following at the top line: # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
[15:33] <lopin> slayton, that seems like exactly what I need.  I was just kind of afraid of breaking stuff with that one.
[15:33] <velko> ThipThip: do you have access to it? are you comfortable with the command line?
[15:33] <TJ-42> is there a guide that talks about the ubuntu keyring?  I can
[15:33] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: If i backup home, format then put home back. there will be configs for programs that do not exist anymore
[15:33] <TJ-42> 't figure out how it works
[15:33] <ThipThip> velko: Yes to both.
[15:33] <wilhelmb> is it normal that ktorrent uses 1.0 gig of memory? (8.05)
[15:33] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that doesn't matter, you can delete them
[15:33] <wilhelmb> is it normal that ktorrent uses 1.0 gig of memory? (8.04)
[15:33] <lopin> ikonia, Completely forgot about the DVD install.  However, that would end up taking forever to download...  but, thanks!  :D
[15:33] <rapha> I just installed 8.10 - what happened to SSH? Public key authentication does not work anymore!
[15:33] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, they only take up a few mb of space
[15:33] <bazhang> wilhelmb, no
[15:33] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: ok then
[15:33] <mikejet> How often do you guys download updates? 8.10 is working great here on adm64 / 2cpu.
[15:33] <ikonia> lopin: it's only 2 gig, just double the cd install
[15:33] <darkvertex> ﻿Rotlaus_:  link - like :(
[15:33] <bazhang> wilhelmb, try transmission
[15:33] <Pici> !doesntwork | rapha
[15:33] <rapha> I always get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" :-(
[15:33] <Slart> mikejet: once a day
[15:34] <npnux> hi help me for 8.10 dvr card programing pls
[15:34] <elementz> updated to ibex, now my trackpoint on x61 does not have scrolling anymore! updated the fdi config, but that didnt help. anybody got it working in here, or willing/able to help?
[15:34] <ikonia> mikejet: how often you update depends on your setup
[15:34] <MaxFrames> hello, please help, I've upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and lost sound completely
[15:34] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: ok, here goes, starting backup
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, again I'm sorry you're in this position but trust me when I say its worth it
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, good luck!
[15:34] <npnux> hi help me for 8.10 dvr card programing pls
[15:34] <Frijolie> slart: sorry I was AFK for a bit...lemme run lspci
[15:34] <mikejet> Slart: How do you know that today's update is legit? It's not even listed on the security updates webpage.
[15:34] <exibo> bazhang: hmm
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, come back here if you need help, if I'm not around there will be other people who are more the knowledgeable who can help you
[15:34] <Slart> Frijolie: no worries
[15:34] <bazhang> MaxFrames, check sound preferences and set to alsa; also try alsamixer in terminal
[15:34] <velko> ThipThip: then my suggestion is to boot the live cd on the laptop, chroot to the broken install, and run update-grub in order regenerate /boot/grub/menu.lst and (eventually) to reinstall grub to mbr
[15:34] <rapha> Pici: "does not work" means that despite of me using the ~/.ssh directory from my previous 8.04 installation, I cannot use public key authentication with SSH for some reason I don't know unfortunately
[15:35] <lopin> ikonia, The DVD only has additional language packs...  :C
[15:35] <bazhang> npnux, for mythtv?
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: after getting that errors from grub, after installing ubuntu, ive disconnected the windows hdd and installed ubuntu on that other drive
[15:35] <Slart> mikejet: "legit"? I've just set it to download updates once a day and apply security fixes right away
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: seems that i have 2 grubs now
[15:35] <ikonia> lopin no, it has more packages on
[15:35] <wilhelmb> bazhang: yeah but i like ktorrent, do you know what could do
[15:35] <mikejet> ralpha: MAke sure the .ssh directory is not publically readable.  Do "chmod go-r .ssh".
[15:35] <Frijolie> slart: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:35] <ThipThip> velko: What do you reckon is the cause of this problem? (I'm booting the live cd now)
[15:35] <HK_PC> slayton: I am here on my pc
[15:35] <bazhang> wilhelmb, I would file a bug, and check launchpad for any bug workarounds
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: one on the mdr on the windows drive and the other on the root
[15:35] <MaxFrames> bazhang: sound preferences only show "default" as device
[15:35] <bazhang> !bugs | wilhelmb
[15:35] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. ok..
[15:36] <E-XtraCt> /w $me
[15:36] <bazhang> exibo, is it still a dual boot or not
[15:36] <abbas> java
[15:36] <clint_> Anyone else sound not work in thier browser after the upgrade?
[15:36] <exibo> bazhang: what does it mean?
[15:36] <bazhang> abbas, what is your question
[15:36] <velko> ThipThip: grub is controlled by a config file. the layout of the hard disk changed. grub is no longer able to find the files it needs in order to boot
[15:36] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: On my second machine in the xorg.conf comments is the command to build the original one with dpkg-reconfigure
[15:36] <hardcorelamer> anyone know how to install vim that has copy/paste and multiple buffer support on ubuntu-server 8.04 ?
[15:36] <MaxFrames> bazhang: alsamixer gives error
[15:36] <mikejet> Sound works okay after re-install. ( i never try upgrade )
[15:36] <bazhang> exibo, dual boot means you can boot into windows or linux from same computer
[15:37] <rgsteele||work> Hm.  Can you get the getabis binary without grabbing the kernel source from git?  I ran an apt-get source on the kernel version I want, made some changes and built the new config, initrd, system map, and vmlinuz, but I'd like to have the abi as well.
[15:37] <iLogic> is the new ubuntu still a pain to install on macbooks?
[15:37] <clint_> \whats ibex?
[15:37] <velko> ThipThip: this is only my guess, of course :-P
[15:37] <bazhang> MaxFrames, what error
[15:37] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:37] <rgsteele||work> Or, is there another way to generate the abi for the particular kernel?
[15:37] <iLogic> clint_:  it's like a goat, i guess
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: after installing ubuntu with the windows hd disconnected i disconnected it back and i want to dual boot now
[15:37] <Pici> rapha: Is it possible that one of your keys were blacklisted due to the recent vulnerability?
[15:37] <bazhang> !ibex | clint_
[15:37] <Slart> Frijolie: try using this line instead of the previous one.. same file.. options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[15:37] <n8tuser> hardcorelamer-> the existing one you have doesnt have those features, ithought they do?
[15:37] <MaxFrames> bazhang: "function sound ctl open failed for default: no such file or directory"
[15:37] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I'll restart my xserver
[15:37] <ThipThip> velko:  If it means anything, I can get into grub (by pressing esc) and look around / modify the commands
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: i tried to add to menu.lst
[15:37] <abbas> i want java in firfox
[15:37] <sp4rd4> lo
[15:37] <grub_n00b> how do I generate menu.lst?   would grub-install do it?
[15:37] <hardcorelamer> n8tuser: nope, it's a very bare bones vim, and vim-scripts installed, but it doesn't seem to add anything
[15:37] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: check your pm's
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: smth like root (hd0,1)
[15:37] <velko> ThipThip: you can try
[15:38] <bazhang> abbas, then install it
[15:38] <clint_> what bazhang?
[15:38] <hardcorelamer> I'm trying to avoid installing half of gnome just to get vim working
[15:38] <clint_> what?
[15:38] <graingert> abbas: firefox walks you through it on hardy and ibe
[15:38] <exibo> bazhang but it simply told me that the drive doesnt exist
[15:38] <ThipThip> velko:  But what to do?  I'm so lost with the grub command line
[15:38] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:38] <bazhang> !java | abbas
[15:38] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, 1 sec
[15:38] <NicEXE> how do I fix the sound issues that i face with ALSA?
[15:38] <exibo> bazhang and now that gparted stuff
[15:38] <Pici> rapha: Have you tried running ssh with the verbose flag to see why its failing as well?
[15:38] <Frijolie> slart: remove the old one and replace it with the new suggested one?
[15:38] <graingert> how long is a "while" on ubuntu installer?
[15:38] <Slart> Frijolie: yup.. or just change auto to toshiba
[15:38] <velko> ThipThip: so it it easier to chroot in the broken install and to let grub regenerate everything by itself
[15:39] <graingert> I am trying to resize a partition on a 500gb
[15:39] <exibo> bazhang i think i will just try to boot windows from arch linux cd and check which one is right: fdisk or gparted
[15:39] <graingert> drive
[15:39] <bazhang> graingert, depends on your computer power and speed
[15:39] <ThipThip> velko: OK
[15:39] <Frijolie> slart: alright, I'll restart and be right back. My fingers are crossed XXXXX (all 10 of them)
[15:39] <MaxFrames> NicEXE: are you getting no sound as well?
[15:39] <rapha> Pici: yes, and curiously it says (with -vvv) "Not a RSA1 key file /home/rapha/.ssh/id_rsa" and then a bunch of other stuff which might be followup errors.
[15:39] <Slart> Frijolie: hehe
[15:39] <bazhang> graingert, a good long while then
[15:39] <graingert> bazhang: 2ghz dual core etc
[15:39] <n8tuser> hardcorelamer-> i dont know then
[15:39] <lopin> ikonia, Maybe it would just be easier to fix the FGLRX bug?
[15:39] <NicEXE> I get a weird (broken) clicking sound
[15:39] <Bigmack83> Under 8.04, i have an nvidia card, and for some reason i cant get better than 640x480 resolution. Ive had normal res before but i cant figure out how to fix it. any one know how i can fix this?
[15:39] <graingert> bazhang: hours; days; weeks?
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: i think i will just try to boot windows from arch linux cd and check which one is right: fdisk or gparted
[15:40] <lopin> Anyone else having problems with ATI cards, and X Server not starting?
[15:40] <rexwin> i am trying to install php in ubuntu. but i donot have the phpize command still at my disposal.
[15:40] <TJ-42> if I use gpg to encrypt a backup of my system, what are the files I have to backup separately to be sure that I can unencrypt my file?  Just my "private" keys?
[15:40] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> form your hard disk? that is omenous
[15:40] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:40] <rexwin> what packages contain the phpize command in ubuntu-based php?
[15:40] <bazhang> exibo, you could also get the gparted live cd for that
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: im not sure if i have to type "bazhang:" on the beggining of each message
[15:40] <grub_n00b> rexwin: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[15:40] <dcnoye> will ubuntu break if i add debian sources to the /etc/apt/source.list ?
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: im looking at that link you gave me
[15:40] <graingert> exibo: you can tab complete on most irce clients
[15:40] <clint_> other than konq and FF...whats a good browser?
[15:40] <abbas> firfox dont opan chat
[15:40] <NicEXE> n8tuser: what does my hdd have to do with sound?
[15:41] <bazhang> exibo, just use the tab key; baz <tab>
[15:41] <CYR> !es
[15:41] <graingert> exibo: irc*
[15:41] <joaopinto> click170, epiphany ?
[15:41] <z0d14k> Anybody know how to get SPDIF working on an intel 82801FB (uses snd_intel_hda)?
[15:41] <joaopinto> ops, was clint
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: ah it worsk
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: works
[15:41] <elementz> could this http://pastebin.ca/1241635 be the reason, why my nm-applet does not show when starting gdm?
[15:41] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> thats why i asked if the click is from your hard disk,
[15:41] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: i wonder
[15:41] <NetEcho> how raped are the update servers with intrepid's release?
[15:41] <Tetracomm> I can't find gtk+-2.0, help?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gtk&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[15:41] <clint_> well my sound is screwed in firefox sense the upgrade
[15:41] <E-XtraCt> /j israel
[15:41] <elementz> btw, once i manage to start it, all networks are displayed TWICE
[15:41] <graingert> exibo: bazhang: it took me a rediculas amount of time to discover that!
[15:41] <E-XtraCt> ops, sry
[15:41] <abe3k> is there any way to use the eeepc's webcam with vlc under ubuntu ?
[15:41] <exibo> :p
[15:41] <NicEXE> no the sound comes from my speakers (as I mentioned before)
[15:42] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> most likely the hard disk is ready to crash if you hear those clicks often enuff
[15:42] <rconan> NetEcho, they seemed to be ok last night, i was d/ling at 1.6MB/s off them
[15:42] <geekboy> Help, I'm trying to set up VMware server 2.0 and I can't change the root password
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: i wonder if it worked
[15:42] <grub_n00b> anyone know how to generate a menu.lst the same way the installer does?
[15:42] <joaopinto> geekboy, sudo passwd
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: if I
[15:42] <bazhang> exibo, download the gparted live cd and try
[15:42] <NetEcho> how do you do a dist upgrade again?
[15:42] <sisseck> How do i change the root password. tried using the user manager but that didnt seem to work
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: okay, brb
[15:42] <RediXe> What's a good monitor system for looking for attacks? While having a text file open I saw %systemroot%/cmd.exe and some command be written to it on it's own and kind of curious on how I can figure out how that happened.
[15:42] <geekboy> I tried sudo passwd but I won't give me the option to chane
[15:42] <bazhang> !upgrade | NetEcho
[15:42] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:43] <NetEcho> thaNKS bazhang
[15:43] <graingert> RediXe: you need to install ubuntu
[15:43] <geekboy> just says passwd: password updated successfully
[15:43] <dr_willis> E-XtraCt,  look at the gdm login screen. in the sessions menu
[15:43] <NicEXE> the problem is not on my hdd... the problem is on ALSA
[15:43] <velko> grub_n00b: man grub-update, man grub-install
[15:43] <bazhang> E-XtraCt, in the login window under sessions
[15:43] <abe3k> is there any way to use the eeepc's webcam with vlc under ubuntu ?
[15:43] <RediXe> graingert: I am running xubuntu - that's why I'm not too worried
[15:43] <RediXe> graingert: I just want to know where it came from
[15:43] <bazhang> abe3k, with vlc? that does not make sense
[15:43] <prmr> join #ubuntu-uk
[15:43] <graingert> RediXe: how did you see it?
[15:44] <graingert> RediXe: did you see it while on windoze?
[15:44] <abe3k> bazhang : I want to stream it :)
[15:44] <velko> grub_n00b: sorry update-grub instead of grub-update...
[15:44] <bazhang> abe3k, that wont work
[15:44] <RediXe> graingert: I was coding in Code::Blocks and it just started typing to my screen. No I don't run windows on any of my machines not even in a vm.
[15:44] <exibo> bazhang: omg
[15:44] <abe3k> bazhang : I know vlc can stream webcams, but I want to know if its possible with the eeepc
[15:45] <Tetracomm> I can't find gthread either.
[15:45] <graingert> RediXe: are you on a badlan?
[15:45] <NicEXE> I got tired trying to find a solution for that "no-sound problem"... Does anyone knows the solution?
[15:45] <RediXe> graingert: what would be a badlan?
[15:45] <graingert> abe3k: what driver does the eecam use
[15:45] <grub_n00b> velko: thanks, Ill take a look
[15:45] <ikonia> lopin: could be - but doubtful, thats normally a handful
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: i tried to boot windows using a proper option in arch linux cd
[15:45] <E-XtraCt> bazhang: If I want to choose on startup I have to remove the V ?
[15:45] <Tyrath> ok I just wanted to explain to everyone that infact there was no bug and the PHP is viewable
[15:45] <bazhang> abe3k, check #eeepc and www.eeeuser.com wiki for more info
[15:45] <graingert> RediXe: a lan in which your "mates" play tricks on you
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: and it booted ubuntu
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: seriously, what the hell
[15:45] <Tyrath> I failed to look in the right spots for the PHP
[15:45] <geekboy> Help, I'm trying to set up VMware server 2.0 and I can't change the root password.  I tried sudo passwd but I won't give me the option to change.  just says passwd: password updated successfully
[15:46] <Tyrath> as such PHP code can be viewed in intrepid just like it could be in hardy
[15:46] <ikonia> geekboy you shouldn't be setting the root password
[15:46] <graingert> geekboy: do you NEED vmware as aposed to virtualbox?
[15:46] <Tyrath> really stupid of me to get angry about it
[15:46] <NetEcho> rconan looks like its almost dead now, I'm stuck at download rate unknown lol
[15:46] <bazhang> geekboy, use sudo
[15:46] <geekboy> I need to for VMWare
[15:46] <krish> i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:46] <Tyrath> thanks for the help just the same
[15:46] <Slart> geekboy: does vmware really need your root passwd?
[15:46] <bazhang> !sudo | geekboy
[15:46] <RediXe> graingert: ahhh not that I'm aware of - it's an office and the only other tech savy person is my boss and he isn't in the office - I do have ssh and vnc ports forwarded to my machine - ssh is a non standard port
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: when i disconnect the ubuntu hard drive
[15:46] <bingungaja> i don't understand about the messages log
[15:46] <krish>  i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: i get grub error 21
[15:46] <NetEcho> geekboy I'd suggest using virtualbox, I find it works just as good as vmware but its free
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: when booting
[15:46] <graingert> RediXe: add a vnc password
[15:46] <ThipThip> velko: So I'm booted up with a live CD, now what?
[15:46] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi you stillthere?
[15:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia: i tried installing itunes, it manages to install files for apple update and quicktime player, but doesn't install itunes, says it ran into errors and didn't change the system, so no files were installed for it :(
[15:47] <bazhang> exibo, you need to reinstall grub
[15:47] <zzattack> hey, video playback on my install looks quite locky, in windows it looks a lot more smooth, any idea what could cause this?
[15:47] <geekboy> I already have a vm session and unfortuantly VMware requires root intitialy
[15:47] <graingert> RediXe: or make it so that people have to ask you to let them on
[15:47] <ThipThip> velko: I don't think I've ever used chroot
[15:47] <RediXe> graingert: Pretty sure it requires a password
[15:47] <exibo> bazhang: which one?
[15:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia: also, you have to use the 32bit to get even that much, the 64bit won't launch
[15:47] <NicEXE> I get a weird (broken) clicking sound from my speakers (since the upgrade)... How to fix that?
[15:47] <graingert> RediXe: it is almost certainly a vnc hack (sounds like)
[15:47] <velko> ThipThip: start a terminal, make some empty directory (say /mnt/system)
[15:47] <bazhang> zzattack, you need to give a lot more info
[15:47] <Th0mas> hi
[15:47] <exibo> bazhang: the one im using now, which is on my root partition on ubuntu hard disk or the one on the windows hard disk
[15:47] <zzattack> bazhang: what kind of info?
[15:47] <krish>  i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:47] <RediXe> graingert: That's what I was thinking - I disabled port forwarding for now. I just use it to work from home sometimes
[15:48] <rapha> Pici: any idea?
[15:48] <jernst1> krish: when grub is starting type esc
[15:48] <Th0mas> need help für skype config. i am using linux ubuntu my first time please querry me
[15:48] <bazhang> zzattack, are you using compiz; what video card and driver and how installed; what version of ubuntu; what is laggy
[15:48] <graingert> RediXe: ok
[15:48] <RediXe> graingert: Is there anyway to monitor attacks like that or any attacks in general?
[15:48] <krish> jernstI ok and then
[15:48] <jernst1> krish: then start in recovery mode to see if you see any meeningfull message
[15:48] <bazhang> !skype | Th0mas
[15:48] <krish> ok
[15:48] <bingungaja> i'm asking again, anyone has issues with totem playing dvd ?
[15:48] <Tetracomm> I can't compile any programs annd I really need to find gtk+-2.0 and gthread, help?
[15:48] <exibo> !grub
[15:49] <clint_> UUGGGGHHHH no sound on my pornos. oh no's
[15:49] <zzattack> bazhang, im using 8.04 64 bit, all default drivers I think, the video isn't laggy but it is blocky
[15:49] <bazhang> Tetracomm, install build-essential
[15:49] <bazhang> clint_, stop that
[15:49] <clint_> why would sound work on a mp3 on my HD but not stream on a viral video
[15:49] <vise> e possibile vedere gli indirizzi msn degli amici degli amici?
[15:49] <bazhang> !coc | clint_
[15:49] <graingert> RediXe: yes... if you make vnc request your permission; then drop down to permit after 10 seconds
[15:49] <Th0mas> thx
[15:49] <clint_> i didnt cuss
[15:49] <clint_> ah ha
[15:49] <graingert> graingert: so if no-one is using it you can still vnc in
[15:49] <Ash44455666> gah, it autoconnected me here
[15:49] <graingert> whoops
[15:49] <Ash44455666> o_o
[15:49] <Dude_> I'm using intrepid and i activated compiz now, and i lost the windows borders. it happened to me before in hardy but i forgot how to fix it. does anybody know how?
[15:49] <krish> jernstI i got this problem after i tried to remove ssh which i installed
[15:50] <graingert> RediXe: so if no-one is using it you can still vnc in
[15:50] <Slart> !it | vise
[15:50] <bazhang> Dude_, compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[15:50] <clint_> i guess ill reinstall FF
[15:50] <graingert> RediXe: but if you are using it you can stop l33t l$x0rs
[15:50] <velko> ThipThip: you there?
[15:50] <Dude_> bazhang: ok thank you
[15:50] <krish> jernstI it shows TSC unstable due to TSC idle
[15:50] <rapha> !de | rapha
[15:50] <dcnoye> i'm looking for documention on sources.list .... where can i find it ??
[15:50] <ThipThip> velko: Yep, I made the directory
[15:50] <velko> ThipThip: mount your broken install in this directory: sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt/system
[15:51] <NET||abuse> ikonia: found a solution on a site. seems other people gotit running.
[15:51] <RediXe> graingert: lol,
[15:51] <NET||abuse> ikonia: http://www.wine-reviews.net/applications/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang:  ive entered the grub prompt and typed "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang: and it said (hd1,0)
[15:51] <Yimpolo> How do I restart services in ubuntu?
[15:51] <bazhang> exibo, why do you keep switching hdd's in and out?
[15:51] <ThipThip> velko: done
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang: i just did it once
[15:51] <bingungaja> i'm asking again, anyone has issues with totem playing dvd ? (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png)
[15:51] <velko> mount the /dev/ directory from the live cd to the chrooted environment (in order to be able to access the drives): mount -o bind /dev /mnt/system/dev
[15:51] <tom_e> hey i was thinking about upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10, but the release notes state some incomprehensible (to me) stuff on nvidia support, does it affect [GeForce FX 5200] ?
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: cuz when i had both connected
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: the installation of ubuntu
[15:52] <velko> ThipThip: mount the /dev/ directory from the live cd to the chrooted environment (in order to be able to access the drives): sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/system/dev
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: screwed something that i was recieving grub error 21
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: and the only thing i could do was unplugging the windows hdd
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: and installing ubuntu on that second hdd
[15:53] <Yimpolo> How do I restart services (such as ssh) in ubuntu??
[15:53] <bazhang> !fstab | exibo check here
[15:53] <exibo> bazhang: then connecting windows hdd back again and adding it to bootloader
[15:53] <NicEXE> I am (an amateur) music producer and I can't work without sound. What's wrong? the problem started since I upgraded to 8.10
[15:53] <Tetracomm> bazhang: Then what?
[15:53] <velko> Yimpolo: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:53] <ThipThip> velko: can't find /dev/mnt/system/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab - did you mean /mnt/system/dev?
[15:53] <Yimpolo> Thanks velko :P
[15:53] <bazhang> Tetracomm, the build-essential package will allow you to compile
[15:53] <Frijolie> slart: hard to tell...
[15:53] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[15:53] <Tetracomm> :)
[15:53] <NicEXE> * i got a weird clicking sound instead of music
[15:54] <rufusdel1> hello everyone, my PC is not able to start with the last 2 versions of kernel since i-ve made the 8.04 update and starts the initframes. Any sugestion?
[15:54] <Slart> Frijolie: no big difference then..
[15:54] <Pici> rapha: Does ~/.ssh/id_rsa look like an RSA keyfile? Does it start with "-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----" ?
[15:54] <velko> ThipThip: it depends on where you mounted the install. so - very likely :-P
[15:54] <ThipThip> velko: Yeah I got it now
[15:54] <Slart> Frijolie: well.. that's all the fixes I can think of.. you can always try asking in #alsa or posting a message in the forums about it
[15:54] <velko> ThipThip: regenerate /boot/grub/menu.lst: sudo update-grub
[15:54] <ThipThip> velko: so now what? :-)
[15:54] <velko> ThipThip: regenerate /boot/grub/menu.lst: sudo update-grub
[15:54] <AgentScorpion> Does anyone know where the list of servers in System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From... is contained?
[15:54] <ThipThip> velko: ok
[15:54] <exibo> bazhang: not much i can find in that file
[15:54] <exibo> bazhang: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[15:54] <exibo> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[15:54] <exibo> UUID=208c4d40-ca42-49de-a13e-55c9215f45cb / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[15:54] <exibo> # Entry for /dev/sdb5 :
[15:54] <exibo> UUID=df18e98c-bf66-40d4-a78d-2f10df8ad8d1 none swap sw 0 0
[15:54] <FloodBot3> exibo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <bingungaja> i'm asking again, anyone has issues with totem playing dvd ? (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png)
[15:55] <ThipThip> velko: this is all very fascinating for me - I need to learn more about grub
[15:55] <Frijolie> slart: I don't really know how to measure it...for the Flash video thing, it wasn't every video, just about 30% of them.
[15:55] <Tetracomm> bazhang: Same error: checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 gthread-2.0) were not met:
[15:55] <truebosko> Quick question .. I began the upgrade process for Ibex last night on my hardy installation. I just let it run overnight and when I woke up I had a ton of failed packages so I just closed the upgrade down. Do I have to remove all the packages that WERE downloaded somewhere? Because I know for sure it was downloading for 5+ hours .. just dont want useless data sitting around
[15:55] <ThipThip> velko: I have not chrooted.
[15:55] <NetEcho> wow my poor connection can't handle the whole 200 and some odd KB of upgrade to intrepid </sarcasm>
[15:55] <graingert> how do I get a nova dvb t-500 working in ibex; worked fine on hardy
[15:55] <bazhang> Tetracomm, what are you trying to compile? why not install from repos
[15:55] <exibo> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65247/
[15:55] <ThipThip> velko: I think that it is still thinking about the grub of the live cd?
[15:55] <velko> ThipThip: you're right. sorry
[15:55] <Frijolie> slart: rhythmbox no change, totem no change, vlc no change
[15:55] <philippe_> Hi. How do I find where is the executable for an application? For exemple, I want to tell Firefox to use Thunderbird on mailto link but I need to point to an executable and can't only write the executable like in a terminal.
[15:56] <velko> ThipThip: you have to chroot first and after that to bind /dev
[15:56] <slayton_away> Does anybody know how to get pidgin sounds working reliably
[15:56] <slayton_away> ?
[15:56] <exibo> bazhang: thats my fstab
[15:56] <velko> ThipThip: so umount /dev
[15:56] <ThipThip> velko: so chroot /dev/sda1?
[15:56] <Slart> Frijolie: mm, perhaps the alsa people haven't implemented support for your particalur sound card yet
[15:56] <Bigmack83> my nvidia drivers arent showing the proper resolution. my display wont get better than 640x480. any one have an idea on how i can fix this?
[15:56] <velko> ThipThip: yes. sudo chroot /mnt/system
[15:56] <truebosko> Bigmack83: you are way too vague
[15:56] <clint_> Ive tried 3 different web browsers and still no sound. Yet i can play a mp3 from my HD just fine...anyone have any idea whats going on?
[15:57] <Fondor1> philippe: it's in /usr/bin/
[15:57] <velko> ThipThip: after that do the bind trick and the menu.lst regeneration
[15:57] <Tetracomm> bazhang: MegaTunix, it is not in the repositories.
[15:57] <exibo> bazhang: the tutorial you gave me shows some example fstab file
[15:57] <exibo> bazhang: and it is simply different
[15:57] <rufusdel1> Bigmack> I think is the driver or the x-server
[15:57] <rufusdel1> I have similar problems
[15:57] <bazhang> exibo, apart from fixing grub and fstab, not sure what other advice I can offer you
[15:58] <Frijolie> slart: i thought Intel was pretty "linux" friendly and released their hardware for drivers/support
[15:58] <Bigmack83> well i changed settings in xorg.conf and they didnt work so i reverted it back to origional. but my display wont go back to the origional resolution
[15:58] <NetEcho> I see Intrepid isn't available from shipit yet
[15:58] <ThipThip> velko: after chrooting, I get this response to the bind trick: sudo:unable to resolve host ubuntu; mount: mount point /mnt/system/dev does not exist
[15:58] <exibo> bazhang: i have really no idea how to fix that grub
[15:58] <Slart> Frijolie: mm, I don't think intel is to blame for this.. they make the chip but I think toshiba makes the rest of the circuitry around it
[15:58] <Bigmack83> rufusdel1, i tried reinstalling the nvidia-glx driver but it didnt work
[15:59] <krish[0]> krish:
[15:59] <Slart> Frijolie: as you saw on that page.. there are many many different models.. each company wants to make something special with it
[15:59] <franny> Bigmack83:  Try CTRL + ATL + numpad +/- to change desktop res.
[15:59] <velko> ThipThip: uff - my bad. of course you first bind and after that chroot. the chrooted install have no notion of the ouside world. this is the whole point of chrooting anyway
[15:59] <Tetracomm> bazhang?\
[15:59] <Bigmack83> franny, no effect.
[15:59] <krish[0]> krish: you there?
[15:59] <guerby> hi, after upgrading to intrepid sound is no longer working, /proc/asound/ isn't even here (SiS AC97 hardware), I opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291630
[16:00] <ThipThip> velko: I think I see.  So now, after having bound and chrooted, update-grub?
[16:00] <Frijolie> slart: but it's the chipset that does all the audio processing and then sends the signal(s) to the speakers. Intel, who i'm not placing blame, makes the drivers, right?
[16:00] <bazhang> http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?p=151941 Tetracomm
[16:00] <guerby> any idea of what to try?
[16:00] <ThipThip> velko: In the chrooted world, there is no /boot/grub
[16:00] <truebosko> Quick question .. I began the upgrade process for Ibex last night on my hardy installation. I just let it run overnight and when I woke up I had a ton of failed packages so I just closed the upgrade down. Do I have to remove all the packages that WERE downloaded somewhere? Because I know for sure it was downloading for 5+ hours .. just dont want useless data sitting around
[16:00] <velko> ThipThip: yes
[16:00] <ThipThip> velko: No GRUB directory found
[16:00] <Tetracomm> bazhang: Even with that tutorial, won't I have to install gtk and gthread anyway?
[16:00] <velko> ThipThip: than you may check if grub is installed at all
[16:00] <velko> ThipThip: if not - install it
[16:00] <Fondor1> truebosko: are you planning on upgrading later?
[16:00] <Slart> Frijolie: I'm not entirely sure of the exact layout.. but I think the intel chip is just the base that other companies build on
[16:01] <ThipThip> velko: Two things: 1) I know grub is installed because it runs at boot, and 2) might this be because I set /boot to a different partition (sda1)?
[16:01] <Slart> Frijolie: and I think toshiba makes their own drivers for their laptops
[16:01] <clint_> When someone gets a chance, help me out with my audio on 8.10
[16:01] <velko> ThipThip: right. you have to mount this partition now under /boot
[16:01] <guerby> clint_, is it the same as: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291630
[16:01] <Tom_Davis> clint_: I am in the same boat, no audio with ibex
[16:01] <Bigmack83> so if i just uninstalled my nvidia driver, would ubuntu revert to the default drivers and i can tell it to update/install the restricted drivers for it?
[16:02] <Frijolie> slart: so it could be Intel, ALSA, lack of kernel compiled drivers, PulseAudio, a corrupt configuration in my preferences, Toshiba....[list goes on]
[16:02] <clint_> its just in my browser
[16:02] <schwalbe> exit
[16:02] <AgentScorpion> Does anyone know where the list of servers in System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From... is contained?
[16:02] <ThipThip> velko: so sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot?
[16:02] <bazhang> Tetracomm, from the looks of it no; that is only for gutsy by the way
[16:02] <velko> ThipThip: yep
[16:02] <jernst1> krish are you there ?
[16:02] <Slart> Frijolie: I would concentrate on the alsa part.. but sure.. it could be lots of things
[16:02] <guerby> Tom_Davis, clint_ for me no audio kernel module loaded at all, and no /proc/asound/
[16:02] <Tetracomm> bazhang: gtk+2.0 is in libgtkglext1. :)
[16:02] <Tetracomm> Ty.
[16:03] <ThipThip> velko: OK, grub-update did its thing this time
[16:03] <Tom_Davis> guerby: strangely enough under preferences > sound, the test sounds worked
[16:03] <mikmorg2> hello
[16:03] <clint_> is there a fix?
[16:03] <velko> ThipThip: and just to make sure - reinstall grub to the master boot record: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[16:03] <krish[0]> jernst1: are you talking to me?
[16:03] <clint_> or am i gonna have to go back down
[16:03] <Frijolie> slart: hmm, they're going to say come here for help.
[16:03] <krish[0]> ah good hes gone
[16:03] <ThipThip> velko: And what do I put in place of sdx?  just sda?  Or sda1? or sda5?
[16:03] <krish[0]> i hate my nick users
[16:04] <Slart> Frijolie: probably.. or wait for the next version of ubuntu =/
[16:04] <Rubin> Tom_Davis, make sure your other apps are playing sound via pulse and not some other sound daemon
[16:04] <clint_> guerby, can you play mp3's?
[16:04] <guerby> Tom_Davis, ah so not exactly the same as my issue then
[16:04] <Frijolie> slart: well thanks, again, for your hard work and huge effort in trying to help me
[16:04] <mikmorg2> could someone tell me how to use i386 repos in apt as well as x86_64 (native x86_64)?
[16:04] <newcomer> krish, u can ghost anybody using ur nick
[16:04] <guerby> clint_, no mp3/browser/sound control for me
[16:04] <clint_> Tom_Davis, can you play mp3's as well?
[16:04] <Slart> Frijolie: you're welcome.. hope you get it fixed somehow
[16:04] <velko> ThipThip: no. not a partition name like sda1, sda5 but the disk name: sda
[16:04] <clint_> see i can play them from my HD
[16:04] <Frijolie> slart: this has been really happening since the first install of Hardy (April 08)
[16:04] <mikmorg2> i'ev seen a couple webpages saying to use deb-i386 lines, but that breaks :p
[16:04] <krish> newcomer: yes i know. i thought thatd be rude
[16:04] <Tom_Davis> clint_: negative, no mp3, no flash, nothing but the test sounds
[16:04] <XB23> hey guys when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart i get eth0 no such device
[16:04] <clint_> can you open your sound pref's?
[16:04] <krish> so i was trying to call him
[16:04] <XB23> but eth0 should exist right?
[16:05] <krish> but hes got some nerve
[16:05] <newcomer> krish, not if you warned him first :)
[16:05] <ThipThip> velko: That's what I thought.  OK it seems to have gone OK.
[16:05] <Frijolie> slart: so I doubt the next version will fix it, unless by some unforseen miracle
[16:05] <clint_> i had a few errors on the update, maybe thats what happend
[16:05] <clint_> should have payed attention...ugh
[16:05] <krish> :)
[16:05] <velko> ThipThip: and now on the same way back: umount /boot, exit the chroot, umount the system directory, reboot and cross your fingers :-)
[16:05] <Tom_Davis> my sound worked on rc1 last saturday
[16:05] <Tom_Davis> now its fail
[16:05] <velko> ThipThip: umount the /dev directory also
[16:06] <clint_> ill prolly be going back down to 8.04
[16:06] <Tom_Davis> clint: thats my current project
[16:06] <n8tuser> XB23-> what kind of nic card do you have?
[16:06] <Slart> Frijolie: there are lots of bugs being discovered/fixed for each new version of ubuntu/alsa/pulseaudio.. you could try to report it on the launchpad
[16:06] <Slart> !launchpad
[16:06] <clint_> i dont wanna loose my data, and i have a cd...how should i go about this...im a total linux nuewb
[16:06] <ThipThip> velko: /boot: device is busy
[16:07] <Tom_Davis> clint: did you make a seperate home partition?
[16:07] <velko> ThipThip: and let me know if it worked. i'll have to leave in a few minutes but i'm curious
[16:07] <clint_> neg
[16:07] <clint_> well
[16:07] <clint_> yea
[16:07] <clint_> i do
[16:07] <clint_> sry
[16:07] <FloodBot3> clint_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <velko> ThipThip: cd /
[16:07] <velko> ThipThip: and after that sudo umount /boot
[16:07] <Tom_Davis> clint: then do your install with manual partitioning, tell it not to format that directory
[16:07] <ThipThip> velko: WOW that was a dumb moment for me :)
[16:07] <kupniewski> siemanko
[16:07] <Guest48073> hi
[16:07] <kupniewski> ktos jest z polski
[16:07] <dj_ivocha> Question: After installing 8.04 on my IBM X31 notebook, my previous installation of WinXP won't boot any more - it bluescreens with a STOP message 0x7b (boot device inaccessible or something). Linux still sees the windows partition, but the latter's recovery console doesn't. FIXMBR didn't help
[16:07] <Frijolie> slart: yeah, i'm aware of launchpad and the process of submitting bug reports. however, it could just be an isolated scenario which would be unable to replicate and therefore unfixed
[16:07] <kupniewski> hi poland :)
[16:07] <Guest48073> i want to install envy
[16:07] <Guest48073> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[16:08] <Tom_Davis> dj_ivocha: try fixboot
[16:08] <dr_willis> !envyng | Guest48073
[16:08] <Frijolie> slart: that's usually my luck
[16:08] <Slart> Frijolie: I would write a post about it on the forums.. there might be others with the same laptop looking for a solution
[16:08] <Guest48073> aha
[16:08] <dr_willis> Guest48073,  envyng is in the repos.. use as a last resort..
[16:08] <erisco> how do I find out what device my usb stick is using?
[16:08] <bpr> is anyone else seeing firefox hang on ibex?
[16:08] <dj_ivocha> Tom_Davis - same thing. When I start either of those, I go back to the prompt without any message, whether error or success
[16:08] <dr_willis> erisco,  check dmesg right after you plug it in. is one way
[16:08] <Guest48073> i am on ibex
[16:08] <Frijolie> slart: yeah, I'm searching the forums for my make/model/color of laptop as we speak
[16:08] <velko> erisco: df -h
[16:08] <dr_willis> !info envyng
[16:09] <dr_willis> Hmm.. it may not be there any more
[16:09] <erisco> velko, thanks
[16:09] <outbackwifi> !envyng
[16:09] <Guest48073> so what shall i do??
[16:09] <Guest48073> ^^
[16:09] <dr_willis> I always use the hardware-driver tool to get my video drivers and stuff...
[16:09] <bingungaja> no experience freezing totem issue ?
[16:09] <Guest48073> hmm
[16:09] <kris_> Is there any reason I should choose Kvm over Xen ?
[16:09] <arun_> hi I have 945GM chipset and I am not able to find the 915resoltion in the intrepid repo. Is there an alternative?
[16:10] <velko> arun_: i have the same chip and don't need this package
[16:10] <spsneo> After reboot, I have to configure LAN settigs.. how to avoid this?
[16:10] <XB23> hey guys when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart i get eth0 no such device
[16:10] <n8tuser> XB23-> what kind of nic card do you have?
[16:10] <cherva> I have a problem with the new ubuntu. After updating I have no taskbar and Alt+F2 ... everything is working ....
[16:11] <arun_> thanks for responding velko . how do I change my resolution..i am stuck with 1024x768
[16:11] <Guest48073> i have a nvidia geforce 6800
[16:11] <spsneo> After reboot, I have to configure LAN settigs.. how to avoid this?
[16:11] <arun_> velko, the screen resolution doesnt show anything higher
[16:11] <Guest48073> the problem is the relsolutin
[16:11] <ThipThip> velko: No dice.  Same kernel panic.
[16:11] <dr_willis> Guest48073,  you have installed the nvidia-glx package to get your proper drivers?
[16:11] <Guest48073> i just have the choice of 800x600 and a lower
[16:11] <n8tuser> spsneo-> put settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:12] <velko> arun_: mine just works. do you have something special in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? i don't and it just works
[16:12] <velko> ThipThip: shi...
[16:12] <arun_> i can give you a pastebin of my xorg
[16:12] <exibo> in fdisk -l my hdd with windows is on the top, but when i try to boot (hd0,0) it boots ubuntu, what the hell?
[16:12] <excitatory> how does one make qt apps take on your gnome/gtk style?  i'm a recent gnome convert (due to kde4) and cannot live w/out amarok.  however, amarok has way too large of fonts, and the look is way off..  i've tried configuring the font in qtconfig-qt3 or whatever.. but that didn't change the font.. kcontrol is no longer the repos.. and systemsettings only seems to affect qt4 apps.
[16:12] <velko> arun_: yes if you are quick, i have to go in a few
[16:12] <Guest48073> synaptic says that i have nvidia-177-moaliases
[16:13] <jernst> Is the kris* guy who has issue with his Pentium3 still here ?
[16:13] <arun_> velko, http://pastebin.ca/1241663
[16:13] <exibo> in fdisk -l my hdd with windows is on the top, but when i try to boot (hd0,0) it boots ubuntu, what the hell? (hd1,0) gives me "wrong or unsupported executable file"
[16:14] <outbackwifi> exibo: you just nuked your mbr
[16:14] <velko> arun_: i don't have this line: Option    "UseFBDev"                "true"
[16:14] <exibo> outbackwifi: hmm?
[16:14] <Dorobo18jp> anyone fimiliar wit the clearweather screenlet  that can help me get it workign i havetryed all the web sites and cant figure it out
[16:14] <velko> arun_: and i do have the driver listed as "intel". this is missing in your file
[16:14] <outbackwifi> exibo: your grub overwrote the mbr
[16:14] <Rolandohb> hi everyone, i'm new.. I need some help with 8.10. This is the right place to ask?
[16:14] <arun_> let me try removing it and see. can you please post yours?
[16:15] <velko> arun_: the driver for the graphic card, that is
[16:15] <exibo> outbackwifi: yeah
[16:15] <velko> arun_: i'm not home just now
[16:15] <exibo> outbackwifi: ive had problems
[16:15] <outbackwifi> exibo: who hasnt
[16:15] <arun_> oh
[16:15] <Slart> Rolandohb: yes, this is the place. Just ask your question
[16:16] <dfgas1> k, i did a suspend to disk to try it out and now i get a kernel panic every time i try booting normal or through a live disk. how do i fix?
[16:16] <arun_> is there a way you can send it to me when you get home
[16:16] <Nallep> how can I stop nautilus windows from opening up automatically when I attach my usb drive, (‎l want them to mount and display on my desktop, just not open up)
[16:16] <XB23> in /etc/network/interfaces are  network and broadcast both required?
[16:16] <cherva> I have a problem with the new ubuntu. After updating I have no taskbar and Alt+F2 ... everything is working .... anyone knowing how to fix that
[16:16] <Guest48073> ok i will install this now
[16:17] <Guest48073> the 177 driver
[16:17] <dr_willis> cherva,  try making a new user and see if they work for them.. if so.. then its some of your old .gnome or other settings messing things up.
[16:17] <exibo> outbackwifi: i had windows vista on my first hard disk, and an empty, new second hdd
[16:17] <arun_> velko, i have pm'ed you my email
[16:17] <Slart> XB23: I don't think so.. but you'll have to check the man page if you really want to know
[16:17] <exibo> outbackwifi: ive installed ubuntu on the second hdd
[16:17] <mikejet> I want to use Ctrl-1 Ctrl-2, etc to switch between workspaces like on Mac OS X. The Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts thing doesn't let you do that.
[16:17] <exibo> outbackwifi: and when i wanted to boot
[16:17] <Snadder> is this release the latest interpid?: ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[16:17] <exibo> outbackwifi: it gave me grub error 21
[16:17] <dr_willis> Snadder,  no.. 8.10 just came out
[16:17] <NetEcho> mikejet I belive Compiz-Fusion has some settings for that
[16:18] <exibo> outbackwifi: so i disconnected the windows hdd and reinstalled ubuntu
[16:18] <Slart> mikejet: try changing the keyboard shortcuts in compiz if you're using the desktop effects
[16:18] <Snadder> dr_willis: where can I get it?
[16:18] <Slart> !ccsm | mikejet
[16:18] <NetEcho> Snadder ubuntu.com
[16:18] <dfgas1> anyone help with suspend to disk?
[16:18] <exibo> outbackwifi: and then connected it again and now im trying to add it to the bootloader
[16:18] <exibo> outbackwifi: but fdisk -l says windows hdd is the first one (sda)
[16:19] <exibo> outbackwifi: gparted says that it is ext3, not ntfs
[16:19] <dfgas1> sorry hibernate
[16:19] <mikejet> thanks guys.
[16:19] <lclimber> hello everyone, i just upgraded ubuntu to 8.10, i had a huge problem last night and the installation was cancelled, today i tryed again using apt-get dist-upgrade, but now it seems to have unninstalled (not erased) several of the packages i had installed, any ideas why it happened?
[16:19] <exibo> outbackwifi:and it is nearly empty
[16:19] <outbackwifi> exibo: thats prolly because its jumpered as master?
[16:19] <exibo> outbackwifi: and my fstab is really strange
[16:19] <NetEcho> lclimber because they are considered outdated try re-installing them
[16:19] <exibo> outbackwifi: the problem is i dont know how i have connected the disks
[16:19] <exibo> outbackwifi: im nub with all the hardware
[16:20] <outbackwifi> exibo: just change the physical order of the disks
[16:20] <Narcissus> Would anyone reckon there's any call for songbird being added to the repos?
[16:20] <aaron> can someone help me with sendmail configuration...emails internall work......emails from outside come in fine...but sendmail cannot send out to the external internet machines
[16:20] <exibo> outbackwifi: i think my cables are SATA
[16:20] <outbackwifi> aaron: and the errors are..?
[16:20] <exibo> outbackwifi: and there is no first and second on the motherboard
[16:20] <aaron> how do I paste bin?
[16:21] <outbackwifi> !pastebin | aaron
[16:21] <aaron> thanks
[16:21] <unikkk> How can i speed up my Xubuntu bcoz it's very slow
[16:21] <unikkk> ?
[16:21] <exibo> outbackwifi: ive got two thin separate cables for each disk
[16:21] <Oprtz> when i double click my windowsXP computer icon in Network, (Places..> Network), ubuntu dont show the shared folders :( why is that
[16:21] <Yimpolo> Samba client not installed?
[16:22] <outbackwifi> exibo: change the order of the two thin cables
[16:22] <Oprtz> Yimpolo: it is installed
[16:22] <aaron> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65259/
[16:22] <Oprtz>  can open the windows shared folder directly like this ( smb://computer name/shared folder) and then press enter, ubuntu asks me password and letme IN
[16:22] <exibo> outbackwifi: and what then?
[16:22] <outbackwifi> check again
[16:22] <Mion> exibo: it's normal that the kernel and the bios detects the disc in a different order
[16:22] <Mion> exibo: if your system boot fine, then don't bother with changing the order
[16:23] <unikkk> How can i speed up my Xubuntu bcoz it's very slow
[16:23] <unikkk> ?
[16:23] <spsneo> how to configure network in ubuntu ibex
[16:23] <lclimber> ok NetEcho ill try that
[16:23] <jtmoney> hello, guys... 2 x 1 TB drives just got here, and i'm reading up on setting up RAID-1 in ubuntu server... can someone tell me how i can determine if dmraid now supports error handling? the fakeRAIDhowto isn't very clear... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto#RAID-1%20Notes
[16:23] <Slart> unikkk: if you want to increase the speed of your mouse pointer I think there's a setting in preferences, mouse
[16:23] <exibo> Mion: how to get windows into bootloader?
[16:23] <n8tuser> spsneo-> put settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:23] <Mion> unikkk: stop services that you don't use
[16:23] <unikkk> How can i speed up my Xubuntu bcoz it's very slow
[16:23] <unikkk> ?
[16:23] <spsneo> n8tuser: is there no gui?
[16:23] <Mion> jtmoney: I would use software raid
[16:23] <exibo> Mion: when i order it to boot (hd0,0) it boots ubuntu
[16:23] <dfgas1> can anyone help with the suspend to disk, i get kernel panic every time i try to boot now
[16:24] <n8tuser> spsneo-> maybe there is, but i do not use gui
[16:24] <exibo> Mion: when i try (hd1,0) it gives an error
[16:24] <Mion> exibo: your bios detects the disck with ubuntu as the first disc
[16:24] <spsneo> how to configure network in ubuntu ibex. I loose my configuration each time i reboot
[16:24] <Mion> exibo: but the kernel detects it as the second disc
[16:24] <Mion> exibo: that is not uncommon, and you don't have to worry about it
[16:24] <outbackwifi> exibo: this is in my /boot/grub/menu.lst -> http://pastebin.com/fc3d05cb
[16:24] <Slart> spsneo: preferences, network settings doesn't "stick" ?
[16:24] <exibo> Mion: i think i ordered the bios to do that :s
[16:24] <exibo> Mion: im not sure now
[16:25] <spsneo> Slart: no it doesnt stick?
[16:25] <Mion> exibo: if it boots, just leave it as it is
[16:25] <Slart> spsneo: sorry.. network configuration
[16:25] <dfgas1> please
[16:25] <Oprtz> bazhang: can i pm u SIR ?
[16:25] <jtmoney> Mion: okay, i read up on performance issues, etc., and i still want to use fakeRAID
[16:25] <jtmoney> any idea?
[16:25] <exibo> Mion: but i still need to get that windows working : p
[16:25] <Slart> spsneo: hmm.. well you can edit the file directly.. "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[16:25] <Mion> exibo: just chainload it
[16:25] <outbackwifi> exibo: did you see my message?
[16:25] <Mion> you might have to map it too
[16:26] <exibo> outbackwifi: yes, i did the same
[16:26] <spsneo> Slart: but why doesnt it stick?
[16:26] <outbackwifi> exibo: just change the hd numbering
[16:26] <spsneo> is it a bug?
[16:26] <Judgement> Hello, I'm just trying Ubuntu 8.10 from a liveCD, I wasn't installing it - just trying it. When it was booting up It stayed on a Checking Battery status, and flipped back and forth from the black screen saying "Checking batter status [ok] and to a tanish background screen. After a  while I pressed ctrl f8 and it showed the black screen saying something about a b43 error
[16:26] <exibo> outbackwifi: but (hd0,0) boots ubuntu and (hd1,0) gives error
[16:26] <alpha> Using the 177 nvidia driver my video card will not turn on.  Is there a list of supported cards for each driver?
[16:26] <Slart> spsneo: I have no idea, are you using a regular wire connection?
[16:26] <outbackwifi> exibo: can you pastebin your sudo fdisk -l with both disks connected?
[16:27] <Mion> exibo: title Wintendo; rootnoverify (hd1,0); chainloader +1
[16:27] <Mion> exibo: if that don't work, then try to map the discs
[16:27] <exibo> Mion: okay, sec
[16:27] <spsneo> Slart: Yeah I am using a regular wired connection.. I am in university
[16:27] <norbs101> Helo
[16:27] <Miesco> Anyone elses computer freeze with Intrepid?
[16:27] <exibo> outbackwifi: im doing it right now
[16:27] <n8tuser> Judgement-> let it boot up all the way trhough without pressing anything, it takes time sometimes
[16:27] <spsneo> Slart: its university lan here
[16:27] <norbs101> anyone able to help out with a installation problem?
[16:28] <Frijolie> is it safe to remove older version of linux-headers?
[16:28] <sceo> Just upgraded my desktop to Ibex; the wireless is connecting (I can connect to my router in firefox) but nslookup fails as does anything on the outside (Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable) -- problem with static routes or something????
[16:28] <exibo> outbackwifi: http://pastebin.com/md7b9aa4
[16:28] <Slart> spsneo: I have no idea then.. usually linux likes a stable wired connection.. wifi can be troublesome but wired usually just works
[16:28] <Judgement> Oh, okay. I waited for like an hour. And the screen just kept flipping back and forth from the tan screen and the black screen saying "Checking Battery Status [OK] ...
[16:28] <outbackwifi> sceo: check your default route
[16:28] <Alpo\> I have no mouse cursor, i am using II + radeon driver
[16:28] <n8tuser> sceo-> you have a valid nameserver to use?  look in your /etc/resolv.conf
[16:29] <Mion> exibo: try http://pastie.org/304996 if it didn't work without mapping
[16:29] <alpha> Using the 177 nvidia driver my video card will not turn on.  Is there a list of supported cards for each driver?
[16:29] <rampageoberon> Hi, just wondering how can i get the updatedb config to index external drives? (or even symlinks of external drives on my home folder)
[16:29] <Alpo\> with radeon x1950pro
[16:29] <exibo> Mion: okay, i will try it in a second
[16:29] <outbackwifi> exibo: your sda1 is not marked boot
[16:29] <Mion> yea that too
[16:29] <sceo> outbackwifi - don't know how to do that but that sounds promising
[16:29] <Oprtz> when i double click my windowsXP computer icon in Network, (Places..> Network), ubuntu dont show the shared folders and i can open the windows shared folder directly like this ( smb://computer name/shared folder) and then press enter, ubuntu asks me password and letme IN
[16:29] <Mion> windows needs to be marked boot
[16:29] <samad909> hi how do I find the md5sum for the ubuntu-8.10 release...it is not listed in the wiki
[16:29] <n8tuser> Judgement-> i dont know, maybe you can turn off some bios settings in APM
[16:30] <Slart> !md5
[16:30] <exibo> Mion: ah
[16:30] <outbackwifi> exibo: pressing 'a' in fdisk on that partition should do the trick
[16:30] <sceo> n8tuser - yes I have two nameservers  in there (opendns), nslookup says it's trying to use them
[16:30] <n8tuser> sceo-> you have a valid nameserver to use?  look in your /etc/resolv.conf
[16:30] <exibo> outbackwifi: okay i will try this
[16:30] <E-XtraCt> I tried to install drivers to my video card, I downloaded the drivers from AMD-ATI website and when I'm tring to install I get the following error: http://e-xtract.info/ati_error.jpg , How can I solve it ?
[16:30] <Slart> samad909: hmm.. I thought that factoid would have a link..
[16:30] <Mion> Oprtz: make sure your ubuntu box is in the same workgroup
[16:30] <outbackwifi> sceo: can you pastebin your route -n
[16:30] <n8tuser> sceo-> which nameservers are they?
[16:30] <norbs101> ubuntu server wont boot after intallation of the ISO.  Installed on a HP server with a hardware RAID 10.  The installer found and paritions the drives.  However when the install is done and reboot.  I get a message that c:\windows isn't found and it wont boot.  I thought installing grub or lilo, well just a complete install should have update the boot records..  but I might be wrong.  Any help wold be greatly appreciated.
[16:30] <samad909> slart: i know how to check the md5, the md5 is not listed in the site only upto 8.04-1
[16:30] <Mion> E-XtraCt: use the package system to install the drivers instead
[16:31] <Oprtz> Mion: it is in the same workgroup " HOME"
[16:31] <sceo> outbackwifi - turns out there's not much to paste :)  there's just "kernel IP routing table" then the table headers on the next line, but then... nothing (right back to command prompt)
[16:31] <Judgement> okay, thanks. I'll try that!
[16:31] <samad909> anyone with a working ubuntu-8.10-alt iso please give me a md5sum
[16:31] <E-XtraCt> Mion: what is the package name ?
[16:31] <alpha> Using the 177 nvidia driver my video card will not turn on.  Is there a list of supported cards for each driver?
[16:31] <sceo> n8tuser 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[16:31] <Mion> alpha: what card do you have?
[16:32] <}The_Bot{> :D
[16:32] <Slart> samad909: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/MD5SUMS
[16:32] <samad909> slart: thx
[16:32] <sceo> outbackwifi - here on my laptop I have three entries in my routing table
[16:32] <Slart> samad909: that's from the swedish mirror.. but it's just a small small text file
[16:32] <Oprtz> Mion: the workgroup is same, its " HOME" on both computers
[16:32] <Nallep> anyone know how to stop nautilus from auto opening when I attach a usb drive?
[16:32] <lindenle> can someone help me figure out how to preseed my ldap-auth-client configuration during install in ubuntu?
[16:32] <outbackwifi> sceo: thats the prob; you prolly dont even have the network card up :)
[16:32] <alpha> Mion: i have 2 cards one is a quadro fx 540 (works with the 177) and the other is a gefore6 series
[16:33] <n8tuser> sceo-> what do you get when you do a  dig @208.67.222.222 www.mathcircle.org
[16:33] <Mion> both should work with the driver
[16:33] <outbackwifi> Nallep: in gconf-editor i think but cant confirm
[16:33] <sceo> outbackwifi - well, I think I do -- I can open up my router in firefox if I go to the IP address
[16:33] <Africano> ..
[16:33] <Mion> it's the 5 serie that got dropped from the 177 drivers
[16:33] <Africano> !list
[16:33] <alpha> humm
[16:33] <dfgas1> can anyone one help with me with a suspend to disk problem, kernel panic afterwards  can't boot live disk either
[16:33] <samad909> slart: thanks, it does not have what I need but I will find it from my mirror, thanks again
[16:33] <outbackwifi> sceo: can you pastebin your ifconfig
[16:33] <alpha> Mion: so series 5 card would have to use the 173 driver ?
[16:33] <TJ-42> I like the backup tool that comes installed with ubuntu, but I want it to be a little more complicated (e.g. different settings for different areas to backup).  is there a different tool for ubuntuI could use?
[16:33] <Slart> samad909: yea.. I just noticed it was just dvd's.. well that file should be in all mirrors
[16:33] <spsneo> how to configure wired network connection in ubuntu
[16:34] <sakura> Hi !where can i ask questions about intripid at irc?
[16:34] <outbackwifi> sakura: somewhere around here
[16:34] <sakura> thanks outbackwifi  ...
[16:34] <Alpo\> sakura: here, this is the ubuntu channel
[16:34] <Oprtz> when i double click my windowsXP computer icon in Network, (Places..> Network), ubuntu dont show the shared folders and i can open the windows shared folder directly like this ( smb://computer name/shared folder) and then press enter, ubuntu asks me password and letme IN, Both computers are in same workgroup " HOME". any solution there? thaks
[16:34] <Soeki> hello
[16:34] <Tom_Davis> !ask | sakura
[16:34] <n8tuser> dfgas1-> i dont think hibernate or suspend works so well yet, i heard much people having issues with it, not able to revive or awaken
[16:34] <amee2k> hi everone
[16:34] <rik_> how to write enable newly formatted external 500GB drive?
[16:34] <Tom_Davis> n8tuser: I've fallen and I cant boot up?
[16:35] <simon123_> #linux
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> ok
[16:35] <Nallep> outbackwifi: I looked through gconf-editor but I don't see what setting I change, I am looking in desktop->volume_manager right now
[16:35] <exibo> Mion: i marked the disk with boot flag, restarted and tried hd1,0, the thing you told me to write in menu.lst and when i tried to boot it, it said wrong or unsupported executable
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> that was wierd NetEcho
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> hey guys i got a question about Ubuntu
[16:35] <n8tuser> Tom_Davis-> proly yeah
[16:35] <Tom_Davis> what paco
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> how do i install Java JRE on the newest UBuntu?
[16:35] <exibo> outbackwifi: i marked the disk as bootable and it gave me wrong or unsupported executable file while trying to boot
[16:35] <Tom_Davis> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[16:35] <Tom_Davis> thats for you paco
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> ah
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> i should of known
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> lol
[16:35] <Azhi_Dahaka_> ok, i installed hardy ad spent a good amount of time making the wireless and other hardware work... if i upgrade to intrepid, would i have to do that all over again?\
[16:35] <paco_the_bot> thank you Tom_Davis :)
[16:36] <FloodBot3> paco_the_bot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <Tom_Davis> *bow*
[16:36] <outbackwifi> exibo: that means your xp loader is borked or something
[16:36] <Alpo\> i have no mouse cursor w/ intrepid + radeon driver, and the fglrx doesn't work
[16:36] <graingert> Azhi_Dahaka_: it depends
[16:36] <n8tuser> Azhi_Dahaka_-> possibly, why the need to upgrade?
[16:36] <Tom_Davis> Alpo\ shouldnt you be using aiglx?
[16:36] <outbackwifi> exibo: just boot with the XP cd into recovery console and type fixmbr or something
[16:36] <amee2k> i recently upgraded a box to 8.04LTS. before there was an option in "system/prefs/removable drives and media" where i could brevent it from opening a file manager windows every time i plug in a flash drive. now that option is gone. where did it go / what did i miss ?
[16:36] <Tom_Davis> outbackwifi: perhaps fixboot
[16:37] <Nece228> does ubuntu 8.10 removed lag with the flash?
[16:37] <Nallep> exibo: fdisk /mbr
[16:37] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: is aiglx a driver?
[16:37] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: or that yes :)
[16:37] <rampageoberon> Hi, just wondering how can i get the updatedb config to index a drive mounted in /media?
[16:37] <Tom_Davis> !aiglx
[16:37] <exibo> Nallep: unable to open mbr
[16:37] <Nece228> does ubuntu 8.10 removed lag with the flash?
[16:37] <aherron> so i just upgraded to ibex, i'm using xfce, my network icon in systray is gone
[16:37] <aherron> and i cant find network manager in my xfce menu
[16:37] <aherron> thoughts?
[16:38] <sakura> maybe its a bit stupid my question ... i've intripid ubuntu updated, i'm listening music with rhythmbox, the ubuntu is at /dev/sda3 and the music is at /dev/sda2, when i use firefox and request a page, while the page 'is coming' the music stop, when i 'got' the page, the music continue ....
[16:38] <outbackwifi> exibo: that command should be executed from a dos boot disk not linux
[16:38] <Soeki> I am having trouble making my USB headsets (sennheisser pc-165) to work on ubuntu 8.10 at first they wouldn't work on firefox and tottem only on xmms using alsa pluging, I commented out the alsa-base line about usb-sound and after restart the sound device wont even show on /proc/asound/cards just the ATI hd audio shows.
[16:38] <sceo> outbackwifi - would have to copy/paste through a usb key -- but I can tell you that there's no ip addresses listed, but when I sudo ifup eth0 it fails "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"... my /etc/network/interfaces just has two lines referencing lo (does that need to have an auto eth0 or something?)
[16:38] <Azhi_Dahaka_> i want the new gnome, the new X.org, ecryptfs, new guest mode, better samba and network manager updates
[16:38] <outbackwifi> sceo: that means you dont have networking
[16:38] <exibo> outbackwifi: i dont have any windows disk now, i got this computer with vista already installed and registered
[16:38] <exibo> outbackwifi: maybe i could download it or smth?
[16:38] <Tom_Davis> Azhi_Dahaka_: I want openoffice3, kde5 and telepathy
[16:39] <outbackwifi> exibo: oh vista, dunno anything about that beast
[16:39] <matteo_> hi all, i am trying to run shell script like in this tutorial http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/misc.htm#howshell but i am having problem, when i try to run the script i get this report http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/misc.htm#howshell .. any tips?
[16:39] <Azhi_Dahaka_> that''s why i wan to upgrade to Intrepid
[16:39] <Nallep> exibo: can you make a boot floppy and put fdisk on that
[16:39] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: your link gives me no useful information
[16:39] <exibo> Nallep: i dont have a floppy drive : /
[16:39] <n8tuser> matteo_-> give a brief description or summary, what is the issue?
[16:39] <i0x83> hey guys for some reason when my sd card automounts the mount points can only be accessed by root, any fixes ?
[16:40] <Tom_Davis> Alpo\: what card are you having issues with?
[16:40] <mrunagi__> can anyone help me figure out why kdm wont start and why linux is trying tot ell me there is no /tmp dir
[16:40] <cherva> I how to restart the taskbars to normal because there are no taskbars after the upgrate do 8.10 ( on a new user they are there )
[16:40] <sceo> outbackwifi; ok so from cmdline I ran nm-applet --sm-disable which started it and connected -- now I have routes
[16:40] <gyven> i0x83: Remount them to a point accessible to other users, or chown the mountpoints using sudo to another user.
[16:40] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: radeon x1950pro
[16:40] <n8tuser> Azhi_Dahaka_-> is that a neccessity or just want the latest ?
[16:40] <exibo> maybe i should try to map the drives like Mion said?
[16:40] <Nallep> exibo: you can't use fdisk while the computer is fully running
[16:40] <outbackwifi> sceo: and everything should prolly work :)
[16:40] <Tom_Davis> !glx | Alpo\
[16:40] <Tom_Davis> hurm
[16:40] <E-XtraCt> where can I find firefox's profiles ?
[16:40] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: fglrx worked in hardy, but does not work in intrepid
[16:40] <Azhi_Dahaka_> i want the new nautilus, i need the guest mode and would love the encrypted fs
[16:40] <Mion> E-XtraCt: might want to try
[16:41] <morphles> i borrowed external usb hdd, but i cant detect it in any way, nether in linux nor in windows, and i'm a bit worried. but i have this idea: i didnt take cable that was with hdd (very short one) and i have sort of long cable from bandridge. SO im thinking maybe its cables fault? i have heard that usb printers have trouble with long cables. is it possible? (sorry for a bit of oftoppic)
[16:41] <Mion> er..
[16:41] <outbackwifi> E-XtraCt: in your .firefox
[16:41] <Soeki> hello! I am having trouble making my USB headsets (sennheisser pc-165) to work on ubuntu 8.10 at first they wouldn't work on firefox and tottem only on xmms using alsa pluging, I commented out the alsa-base line about usb-sound and after restart the sound device wont even show on /proc/asound/cards just the ATI hd audio shows.
[16:41] <Mion> exibo:
[16:41] <unop> E-XtraCt, ~/.mozille/firefox
[16:41] <Azhi_Dahaka_> however, i don
[16:41] <Nallep> exibo: you will need to make a bootable cd then to be able to run fdisk
[16:41] <unop> E-XtraCt, ~/.mozilla/firefox
[16:41] <exibo> Nallep: can i use it on some linux livecd?
[16:41] <n8tuser> !who
[16:41] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: and with the open source radeon driver i have no mouse cursor
[16:41] <Azhi_Dahaka_> t want to spend another whole week fighting with my hw
[16:41] <Raphi974> Hi everyone
[16:41] <Tom_Davis> then you might wanna install the restricted driver
[16:41] <exibo> Mion: ?
[16:41] <gyven> !tab
[16:41] <Nallep> exibo: I think tehre are linux tools to do it, but I don't know what they are off hand
[16:41] <Mion> exibo: try to map it
[16:41] <mrunagi__> how do u switch channels in irssi
[16:42] <norbs101> !tab
[16:42] <exibo> Mion: okay
[16:42] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: as i have told you it doesn't work
[16:42] <polyglote> !tab
[16:42] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: i get black screen with it
[16:42] <Tekno> alt+a and alt+numbers
[16:42] <exibo> Nallep: maybe fdisk is on the ubuntu installation disk?
[16:42] <Raphi974> Here's my problem : I wanna upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 but when calculating changes, it stops and says : Failed to authenticate some paquages.... and then, nothing... Help !
[16:42] <Tetracomm> How do I use the terminal to create a desktop shortcut to a program?
[16:42] <Tom_Davis> Alpo\: you have installed the restricted driver?
[16:42] <outbackwifi> mrunagi__: type /join #channelname
[16:42] <exibo> Nallep: or arch linux? i have both cds right here
[16:42] <matteo_> i made a directory on my home called "bin" i put inside this directory a simple shell script called "first" (echo "hello world") but when i try to run from terminal ($first) i get this error "/bin/sh :first command not found" Any tips? :D
[16:42] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: and vesa doesn't work either
[16:42] <Tom_Davis> Alpo\: might try envy
[16:43] <rio> hi, how to mount hfsplus disks with read write support?
[16:43] <Alpo\> Tom_Davis: i'll give envy a try
[16:43] <blip99> hi, i installed sync based on the instructions on the wiki,  running kubuntu 8.04 KDE3.5 with kernel 2.6.24.21-generic,  but when i pluging my WM6.1 Palm Treo 750 and run "synce-pls".... HAL reports no connected devices.  the wiki doesn't cover this.   any ideas ?
[16:43] <Tom_Davis> !envy
[16:43] <unop> matteo_, did you add ~/bin to your $PATH?
[16:43] <i0x83> ok thanks the issue just seemed to fix it self, if id chown directory it would change back at next mount
[16:43] <blip99> SynCe that is
[16:43] <Nallep> exibo: you can try, but I don't know if they will rebuild the mbr that same that MS fdisk does
[16:43] <sceo> outbackwifi; not entirely -- dns lookups aren't working
[16:43] <norbs101> Can anyone shed some light onto this problem.   Ubuntu server wont boot after intallation of the ISO.  Installed on a HP server with a hardware RAID 10.  The installer found drive and was able to partition it.  However when the install is done and reboot, I get a message that c:\windows isn't found and it wont boot.  I thought installing grub or lilo, well just a complete install should have update the boot records..  but I might be wrong. 
[16:43] <Raphi974> ﻿Here's my problem : I wanna upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 but when calculating changes, it stops and says : Failed to authenticate some paquages.... and then, nothing... Help !
[16:43] <sceo> outbackwifi nor can I ssh to a remote server, even by IP
[16:43] <exibo> im trying mapping now, be right back
[16:43] <Gnutoo> hello, i'm helping my brother and he didn't migrate yet to intrepid...but he's got a problem: apt-get was interupted while installing a package and it now says: dpkg was interrupted you must manually run dpkg configure a to correct the problem...but i must reconfigure which package...if i do a dpkg-reconfigure tilp2 it says that tilp2 is not installed...
[16:44] <sceo> outbackwifi but opening up a web site by IP works in firefox
[16:44] <outbackwifi> sceo: your /etc/resolv..conf should have one nameserver at least
[16:44] <matteo_> what is $PATH? in my tutorial is not mentioned :(
[16:44] <n8tuser> norbs101-> youhave a separate /boot partition right?
[16:44] <Tom_Davis> Gnutoo: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:44] <Raphi974> Gnutoo: just type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:44] <norbs101> yes
[16:44] <Fondor1> Raph974: The servers are still very busy right now.  You can change your mirror to one closer to you by going to System>Administration>Software Source, then choose "download from">Other.  Let Ubuntu find the best mirror for you.
[16:44] <outbackwifi> sceo: what happens when you try to ssh?
[16:44] <psp> Anybody else getting this https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-keyring/+bug/275010/comments/2
[16:44] <sceo> outbackwifi just hangs
[16:44] <outbackwifi> n8tuser: its an environment variable that defines the path
[16:44] <Raphi974> Fondor1: i'm trying to migrate from an iso :(
[16:45] <Gnutoo> Raphi974, Tom_Davis, that will ask questions and will reconfigure things like Xorg
[16:45] <norbs101> n8tuser -> i create a /boot as the first primary
[16:45] <gyven> matteo_ if you are browsed to the directory you are trying to run the file, you need to specify it is in that current director with ./ (./first.sh) - also ensure that the file is set as executable (ls -lathr  inside the directory will show you the permissions) if it is not set with x, do so with a chmod
[16:45] <outbackwifi> sceo: if you add the -vv switch it is more verbose, you will know what its hanging for
[16:45] <Tom_Davis> Gnutoo: no that will make dpkg functional again
[16:45] <Azhi_Dahaka_> ok... i made one partition, but a have a lot of free space
[16:45] <Gnutoo> Tom_Davis, ouch...there is no other solution?
[16:45] <E-XtraCt>  what is the firefox's dir ?
[16:45] <Azhi_Dahaka_> can i make a partition, clone my hardy install into it and then try the Intrepid update?
[16:45] <Alpo\> Gnutoo: do sudo dpkg --configure -a , NOT dpkg-reconfigure -a because the latter will reconfigure all
[16:46] <Azhi_Dahaka_> and then if anything goes wrong, roll back into the original hardy install?
[16:46] <Gnutoo> Alpo\, ah ok
[16:46] <n8tuser> norbs101-> and what happens when it boots to that? does it matches whats in your menu.lst ?
[16:46] <Yimpolo> .
[16:46] <exibo> Mion: didnt work : /
[16:46] <outbackwifi> Azhi_Dahaka_: yes with a fresh install
[16:46] <Raphi974> Fondor1: any idea ?
[16:46] <psp> Anybody else getting that gnome-keyring-daemon error?
[16:46] <matteo_> i have setted the permission i was triyng to run the script without tipyng the PATH is possible?
[16:46] <rio> i can't create directory etc. on hfsplus, even not using sudo, is it possible to mount the disk writable?
[16:46] <gyven> Azhi_Dahaka_ - partition resizing has probability of failure, ensure you backup before attempting.
[16:46] <Fondor1> Raph974: I'm not sure then :(  Changing my source worked for me.  Are the non-local sources disabled for certain?
[16:46] <Azhi_Dahaka_> but, i have to reinstall?
[16:46] <N0_Named_Guy> hello :D
[16:47] <mastermolch> hello, i try to setup twinview with nvidia-settings, it works fine, but i m not able to save this setting. if i try to save it nvidia-setting crashes down and i get "Segmentation fault" as error msg in the bash.
[16:47] <gyven> matteo_ yes, create a symbolic link in /usr/bin
[16:47] <Azhi_Dahaka_> can't i restore the cloned install?
[16:47] <Mion> exibo: try rootnoverift (hd0,0) with the map
[16:47] <N0_Named_Guy> does anyone use 3G cards??
[16:47] <norbs101> n8tuser-> it doesn't even boot to that...    i dont think the boot sector is setup correctly by the installer..  bios cant find a boot parition   (I am attempting to boot off the raid.)
[16:47] <N0_Named_Guy> :S
[16:47] <acke> hey i removed the main panel..  how can i get it back?
[16:47] <n8tuser> matteo_-> as long as you script can be foudn in the $PATH
[16:47] <matteo_> howto? :D
[16:47] <rampageoberon> matteo_: yes, run "~./bin/first"
[16:47] <Raphi974> Fondor1: it can't authenticate because of the sources ?
[16:47] <rampageoberon> matteo_: yes, run "~/bin/first"
[16:47] <spsneo> How to configure LAN settings in ibex
[16:47] <Slart> acke: the gnome panel? you'll have a create a new one
[16:47] <norbs101> n8tuser->  actaully it tries to boot windows..  there user to be a windows server install ont eh machine
[16:47] <n8tuser> norbs101-> you can not boot of a raid directly as far as i know..but i could be wrong, you need that separate /boot to boot from
[16:48] <acke> Slart: im sorry in kde
[16:48] <Qbuntu> hello
[16:48] <outbackwifi> !hi | N0_Named_Guy
[16:48] <gyven> matteo_ ln -s /path/file /path/link
[16:48] <n8tuser> spsneo-> configure it in /etc/network/interfaces file
[16:48] <posanias> hello!
[16:48] <N0_Named_Guy> hello outbackwifi
[16:48] <Slart> acke: ah.. no idea then.. perhaps asking in #kubuntu will get you better answers?
[16:48] <acke> Slart: yes im nsry
[16:48] <spsneo> n8tuser: how to do that?
[16:48] <norbs101> n8tuser->  you mean I need a physical disk that's off the raid and on the motherboard bus?  The /boot i created is a primary partitin with ext3..
[16:49] <spsneo> n8tuser: can u give me any link?
[16:49] <doura> bonjour
[16:49] <Fondor1> Raphi974:  My guess is it's telling you it can't authenticate because it's also trying to communicate with the servers as well as the iso, but it hangs on the server auth.
[16:49] <n8tuser> spsneo-> kindly   man interfaces or do a tutorial on ubuntu networking
[16:49] <Fondor1> Raph974: That's the only thing I can come up with. :-/
[16:49] <Raphi974> Fondor1: well, i don't want it to check online :(
[16:49] <n8tuser> norbs101-> yes, a separate partition just for /boot, google for this issue regarding booting from a system with raid
[16:50] <doura> y a quelqu'un
[16:50] <Qbuntu> When I boot Kubuntu I get out of frequency error. Using Ctrl-Alt-F2 I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (found this on the forums) but it only shows keyboard options. What to do now?
[16:50] <koruptid> okay, so I've made several pleas on the forums to no success.... is anyone familiar with the Mic volume issues with Intel HD audio???
[16:50] <Fondor1> Raphi974: But have you disabled all online sources?
[16:50] <outbackwifi> !fr | doura
[16:50] <mrunagi__> sigh
[16:51] <Raphi974> Fondor1: i launched the script from the alternate cd. Do i have to disable all the online sources before ?
[16:51] <digitig> Newbie question. When I start Ubuntu, the MS windows drives are not mounted until I click on them in the places menu. Is there any way to get them to automatically mount, because some applications get upset if I forget to mount the drives before I start the application.
[16:51] <outbackwifi> digitig: yes in /etc/fstab
[16:51] <n8tuser> Qbuntu-> you can edit the file direclty ..  sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:51] <koruptid> digitig: /etc/fstab..... how are the drives formatted?
[16:52] <n8tuser> digitig-> how do you know they are not mounted?
[16:52] <Qbuntu> n8tuser, ok tx, going to try.
[16:52] <Fondor1> Raph974: Yes, because it will attempt to find the latest packages from all available sources.  Even if the packages are the same, it will still attempt to check the server, and thus the auth failure
[16:52] <sceo> outbackwifi ssh just hangs on "connecting to 23.2.3.2..." -- everything feels like an inability to connect to dns at this point, since I can get to a server via IP at least in firefox
[16:52] <Pacas_> I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and my network manager disappeared from the menu bar up top.. ?!
[16:52] <Soeki> hello! I am having trouble making my USB headsets (sennheisser pc-165) to work on ubuntu 8.10 at first they wouldn't work on firefox and tottem only on xmms using alsa pluging, I commented out the alsa-base line about usb-sound and after restart the sound device wont even show on /proc/asound/cards just the ATI hd audio shows.
[16:52] <koruptid> n8tuser: windows drives don't map automatically without a fstab entry
[16:52] <Raphi974> Fondor1: Ok, i'll try that
[16:52] <outbackwifi> sceo: what do you have in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:53] <Pacas_> did network manager on top menu vanish from anyone else that upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04?
[16:53] <ay^> Somehow 8.10 seems really slow, even tho mem and cpu-usage aint no-where near full load
[16:53] <wereHamster> where can I edit the message that appears right after I login using ssh?
[16:53] <n8tuser> koruptid-> i asked him how he know it is not mounted..
[16:53] <E-XtraCt> How can I change the defualt county and language options ?
[16:53] <sceo> outbackwifi 2 nameservers (OpenDNS) with a comment "Generated by NetworkManager"
[16:53] <koruptid> n8tuser: I would assume because there's no desktop icon
[16:53] <outbackwifi> wereHamster: /etc/issue
[16:53] <danhs11> hey, I'm right at the end of upgrading to ibex.  but it seems that the upgrader has stalled
[16:54] <danhs11> I'm not exactly sure what I should do
[16:54] <wereHamster> outbackwifi: no, that's not the right one
[16:54] <n8tuser> koruptid-> you are making assumption, its good to teach people how to check and verify things
[16:54] <Alpo\> I just installed with envyng the driver for my ati card (in intrepid), and x only makes screen blink as black/dark grey
[16:54] <graingert> danhs11-> is stalls for a while
[16:54] <WDC> How would I go about upgrade Ubuntu Server ediidiotn to 8.10 from CLI?
[16:54] <euxneks> danhs11, it's probably the servers getting bogged down with requests
[16:54] <danhs11> I'm actually on another tty right now cause I don't want to hard reboot machine or kill X
[16:54] <outbackwifi> sceo: can you pastebin/write one of the two lines here?
[16:54] <wereHamster> outbackwifi: that one prints only the host name, but I also see 'last login:'
[16:54] <koruptid> n8tuser: he did mention being new to linux, and the default action for unmapped windows drives is to list them in the places..... fair enough
[16:54] <lolnoob> Anybody else getting that gnome-keyring-daemon error?
[16:54] <lolnoob> Anybody else getting that gnome-keyring-daemon error?
[16:54] <sceo> outbackwifi "nameserver 208.67.222.222" and the other ends in 220.220
[16:54] <digitig> I can't see them in /etc/fstab. I can see drives mapped to /, /home, swap, /proc, and my two cdroms.
[16:55] <danhs11> euxneks: no.  It says "about 1 minute remaing" and "configuring evolution" but it's completely hanging
[16:55] <spsneo> Pacas_: yeah
[16:55] <n8tuser> sceo-> what do you get when you do a  dig @208.67.222.222 www.mathcircle.org
[16:55] <spsneo> Pacas_: it happened with me
[16:55] <outbackwifi> sceo: can you change one of them to 4.2.2.2 and try?
[16:55] <spsneo> here
[16:55] <WDC> How do I upgrade Ubuntu server from 8.04 to 8.10 in CLI?
[16:55] <danhs11> euxneks: it hasn't made any progress in a long while....I'm not sure what I should do
[16:55] <Pacas_> spsneo: did you figure out how to get it put back?
[16:55] <redrebel_> is there a video surveillance software for linux?
[16:55] <Pacas_> spsneo: did you figure out how to get it put back?
[16:55] <lolnoob> Anybody else getting that gnome-keyring-daemon error?
[16:55] <koruptid> lolnoob: probably, I know since I ran an update this morning my network manager no longer accesses the keyring without entering a password....... anybody else having this issue that has a resolution to it?
[16:55] <cyphermox> what is the package to install French localisation for Firefox 3.0.3 in Hardy? I can find firefox-locale-fr-fr, which does this for Intrepid, and mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr which could potentially work, but it looks like it contains the locales for firefox 2.0 only, and depends on installing firefox-2.
[16:55] <sceo> n8tuser ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:56] <WDC> No One knows how to upgrade Ubuntu server 8.04 to 8.10 in CLI?
[16:56] <spsneo> Pacas_: no i am in search of solution
[16:56] <Alpo\> WDC: use 'sudo do-release-upgrade -m server'
[16:56] <Pacas_> ahh ok
[16:56] <outbackwifi> sceo: try the same command with 4.2.2.2
[16:56] <WDC> Alpa: thank you sir
[16:56] <lolnoob> koruptid: I ran a clean installation (first tried upgrade) and I get that error.
[16:56] <matteo_> sry guys i was just looking for a method to run scripts without being in the dir or specifyng the path, is it possible? :D
[16:56] <koruptid> digitig: the /etc/fstab doesn't contain them by default.... there's a special mapper called fuser that handles unmapped drives.... you'll have to add them if you want them auto-mounted... we can talk you through it if needed
[16:56] <n8tuser> sceo-> did you paste the results of your ifconfig; route -ran; and cat /etc/resolv.conf yet? if not, please do
[16:56] <E-XtraCt> How can I change the defualt county and language options ?
[16:56] <snova> why doesn't synaptic show anything when i search on a package? if i type "ruby" nothing comes up.
[16:57] <digitig> koruptid: Yes please!
[16:57] <nite_johnboy> What's the difference between Xubuntu Desktop & the Xubuntu Alternate versions  ? ?
[16:57] <koruptid> n8tuser: any guesses on why the network manager would stop being able to use the keyring without a password?
[16:57] <blip99> redrebel_: i'm not sure about speciallized software but one idea is to keep skype running and have it automatically transmit video and answer calls... you should be able to call in from anywhere to watch your home/place... of course you'd have no users on that skype account otherwise your friends can monitor as well :)
[16:57] <danhs11> Hello?  Anyone?  What should I do if upgrade manager says "about 1 minute remaing" and "configuring evolution" but it hasn't moved at all in about an hour
[16:57] <n8tuser> matteo_-> you either have the full path or have to be found via $PATH
[16:57] <Raphi974> Fondor1: it works ! thanks
[16:57] <danhs11> and the system isn't so responseive.  So I'm actually using command line IRC client to connect here
[16:57] <Alpo\> nite_johnboy: the Alternate version has text-based installer
[16:57] <danhs11> because I can't get pidgin to load, or firefox for mibbit
[16:57] <danhs11> not sure if I should kill X or what
[16:57] <nite_johnboy> Looks like the Alternate version would need less Hardware requirements ?
[16:57] <redrebel_> blip99, thats a good idea
[16:57] <koruptid> digitig: okay, first mount the drive and right click on it and find the properties and find the devide path and UUID..... those two will come in to use in a minute
[16:57] <elwood> hi guys, anyone knows how to do a bug report for the kernel? what should i attach on launchpad?
[16:58] <Fondor1> Raph974: Glad to hear it :)  Have fun in Intrepid!
[16:58] <n8tuser> koruptid-> network manager requires the keyring to be active
[16:58] <mrunagi__> can anyone tell me why ls -l returns ??? ??? ?? ????? for tmp?
[16:58] <sceo> n8tuser; the route -n shows the same as my laptop except 192.168.2.0's metric is 2, not 0
[16:58] <wereHamster> outbackwifi: FYI it's /etc/motd, and the 'last login' line is printed by sshd, configurable through the 'PrintLastLog' option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:58] <Raphi974> Fondor1: I'll have a huge update after, but its 700Mo not downloaded :p
[16:58] <sceo> m8tuser; ifconfig shows eth0 connected and has 192.168.2.5
[16:58] <posanias> is it possible to disable 1 ide controller?
[16:58] <outbackwifi> wereHamster: thank you for the info :)
[16:58] <n8tuser> sceo come on, please paste in pastebin, im not going to guess any mistypo you have
[16:58] <nite_johnboy> Alpo\: Ah - ok - do not want to go there - give the easy boot-cd method - thanks for reply.
[16:58] <sceo> n8tuser; ok I will paste it but I gotta drop it on a usb key first
[16:58] <koruptid> n8tuser: I'm aware... but previously it was able to load it without a password before... now it is asking for one every time I log in
[16:59] <n8tuser> sceo-> do whatever it takes
[16:59] <outbackwifi> koruptid: prolly theres some option to store/remember the password instead of forgetting it
[16:59] <E-XtraCt> How can I change the defualt county and language options ?
[16:59] <danhs11> Okay I'm going to sign out to use another machine....I'll be back I very much need help to not screw up my upgrde
[16:59] <n8tuser> koruptid-> anything system related reconfiguration requires a root password, like you ethernet, mounting files, etc
[16:59] <Alpo\> i installed the ati driver with envyng but screen is black, worked in 8,04
[17:00] <nite_johnboy> Alpo\: How would you compare Xubuntu to Fluxbox ? Looks like it would run fast but not as fast as Fluxbox - correct ? ?
[17:00] <outbackwifi> !envyng
[17:00] <outbackwifi> !envy
[17:00] <Raphi974> When it was in RC, there was a mobile version in the ftp. But now... nothing. Where is it ?
[17:00] <elwood> !bug
[17:00] <koruptid> n8tuser: I'm aware... this isn't a reconfiguration... this is on login the network manager asking for my password in order to conenct to a wifi with a stored password
[17:00] <cahb_> alguien que hable español?
[17:00] <GarfIIeld> Downloaded 8.10 today, but I'm unable to set static ip on eth0. How am I supposed to set static ip?
[17:00] <WDC> hOw do I upgrade 8.04 server to 8.10 server from CLI?
[17:00] <spsneo> why have they removed the old network manager
[17:00] <exibo> Mion: doesnt work : /
[17:00] <digitig> koruptid: ok, got the UUID. Is the device path the same as the mount point? I thought it would be something starting /dev/, but I can't see that under any of the tabs.
[17:00] <mrunagi__> how do i run fsck without the live cd
[17:00] <exibo> Mion: i figured out some stuff tho
[17:01] <exibo> Mion: in bios ive set up
[17:01] <Alpo\> nite_johnboy: true, fluxbox runs faster
[17:01] <danhs11> back again
[17:01] <exibo> Mion: Channel 0 master: windows hdd
[17:01] <WDC> How do I upgrade 8.04 server to 8.10 server from CLI?
[17:01] <koruptid> digitig: the uuid will suffice.... what is the filesystem format of the drive?
[17:01] <n8tuser> koruptid-> same concept, you are configuring you wifi to set a passwrod, that requiers root priviledge
[17:01] <Alpo\> nite_johnboy: there is an unofficial release called fluxbuntu that uses floxbox
[17:01] <danhs11> I gotta figure out what to do with upgrade manager frozen
[17:01] <exibo> Mion: channel 0 slave: ubuntu hdd
[17:01] <outbackwifi> mrunagi__: boot into maintenance mode
[17:01] <koruptid> n8tuser: never used to... that's the weird thing
[17:01] <elwood> !kernel
[17:01] <n8tuser> WDC why the need to upgrade?
[17:01] <exibo> Mion: but in boot priority the #1 is ubuntu hdd
[17:01] <digitig> koruptid: fuseblk
[17:01] <mrunagi__> outbackwifi: is that the same as recovery?
[17:01] <WDC> n8tuser: No REASON, just I want to.
[17:02] <summel> why does ubuntu 8.10 installs grub into /dev/sda ? i installed ubuntu to /dev/sdc... now windows doesnt boot anymore and the ubuntu on the cf card (/dev/sdc) doesnt has grub >_>
[17:02] <amee2k> where did the option  "don't open removable media when inserted" from  system -> prefs -> removable drives and media  go?
[17:02] <Mion> exibo: set the boot to the windows hd, and insatll grub to mbr
[17:02] <n8tuser> koruptid-> it always has been lest you manipulated your keyring manager beforehand
[17:02] <Mion> install*
[17:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i've narrowed down the issue with gnome-session using an inordinate amount of cpu time: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/11976
[17:02] <WDC> summel: I'm pretty sure you get to specify where it installs
[17:02] <exibo> Mion: how to install grub to mbr?
[17:02] <WDC> n8tuser: How to I upgrade it?
[17:02] <koruptid> digitig: that's not the actual filesystem..... do you know if you formatted your windows drive with fat32 or ntfs?
[17:02] <amee2k> it stinks this way because i don't need all the sh.. poping up when i plug in the stick with my ssh p/key :/
[17:02] <scunizi> How can I get the evolution data/addresses from a drive that use to be my /home into my current drive/install on my laptop? I have it installed in a usb enclosure and can access all the data there but evo doesn't want to import or restore from the file in /home/<uname>/.evolution/addressbook/local
[17:02] <n8tuser> WDC just want to, you want to pull your hair out or do an easy fresh install?
[17:02] <summel> WDC: i checked 5 times... no option to specify the location of grub
[17:02] <Daisuke_Ido> if anyone knows what they're looking at (that's part of an strace -p dump, one of thousands of identical entries)
[17:03] <E-XtraCt> Where can I find fonts ?
[17:03] <WDC> n8tuser: I guess the install option is better, eh?
[17:03] <koruptid> n8tuser, what package do I need in order to change the password on the keyring?
[17:03] <Pingviller25> hey, is there any way to make the numlock button tell my ubuntu to "/usr/bin/numlockx on" ? cause it ever being off is kinda against my religion :P
[17:03] <WDC> summel: Interesting. I'm pretty sure you specify it in the partitiioner
[17:03] <n8tuser> WDC  i suggest hanging around here for an hour to see complaints regarding upgrades as oppose to fresh install
[17:03] <WDC> n8tuser: I had issues on my laptop already
[17:03] <nite_johnboy> Alpo\:  Yea - I have that on a boot cd - thought about installing it to an 8gb SD card I have and see if I like it before committing to a HDrive. Sounds like it might be best of both worlds - Some GUI but fast like regular Fluxbox - thanks again.
[17:03] <digitig> koruptid: I'll probably have to reboot into WIndows to find that out -- back soon(ish).
[17:03] <summel> no i could only specify the partitions/select a harddrive etc
[17:03] <n8tuser> koruptid-> i dont know off hand, google for keyring manager
[17:03] <exibo> Mion: will this work? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:03] <zibri> Since I upgraded to interpid, when I'm to connecting to a server over ssh (pki-auth), the gnome-keyring-manager appears and asks for password. I disabled this in hardy in gconf, but now it's back. The options in gconf is still unticked.
[17:03] <sceo> n8tuser, outbackwifi http://pastebin.com/m661cf67f
[17:03] <WDC> summel: Did you select a mount point?
[17:03] <winenvine> I have ubuntu 8.04 but still having problems with Java plugin.
[17:03] <koruptid> digitig, righto, I'll be here
[17:03] <WDC> winenvine: In FF?
[17:04] <reqqit> so, I am still looking at ttl and max connections on sftp
[17:04] <mib_r91ugx> I've booted from my live cd (8.10) which worked fine, but installing either freezes randomly half way through or gets to the 'configuring hardware' part and stalls at 94 % -  any ideas? Sony VAIO laptop.
[17:04] <scunizi> what's the channel for evolution?
[17:04] <summel> WDC: i made /dev/sdc1 as / with jfs and /dev/sdc2 as swap which i set the mountpoints for
[17:04] <winenvine> I downloaded java from Sun, followed all instruction, tested it and got half of the cartoon working.
[17:04] <unop> scunizi, #evolution on irc.gnome.org
[17:04] <briMestone> guys..  need help....
[17:04] <briMestone> guys..  need help.... with mdadm
[17:04] <scunizi> unop, thanks
[17:04] <winenvine> Obviously it does not work on web site that requires java.
[17:04] <n8tuser> sceo on your /etc/resolv.conf  remove the # so the name server can be known
[17:04] <reqqit> when i asked about even setting this up I got a pious 'compile 100 kernel patches' response from somebody, and nobody mentioned something like MySecureShell which seems to do a lot of nice things
[17:04] <cahb_> alguien sabe como poder hacer que publisher guarde documentos en wine
[17:04] <WDC> summel: I don't know what to say then. Don't let it install grub, and then do it yourself of a liv CD
[17:05] <cahb_> logro hacer que funcione
[17:05] <cahb_> pero no guarda
[17:05] <briMestone> i created a raid, and not my system doesnt boot up, it get stuck at checking filesytem
[17:05] <cahb_> es publisher 2007
[17:05] <FloodBot3> cahb_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:05] <Mion> cahb_: wrong channel
[17:05] <winenvine> wow, how come you guys can type so quickly.
[17:05] <summel> WDC: i tried the last one, but i get something like "could not read stage 1 archive)
[17:05] <Pingviller25> is there any way to configure my numlock to do "/usr/bin/numlockx on" instead of toggling it on and off? (numlock off shouldn't ever be possible imho)
[17:05] <ay^> !es | cahb_
[17:05] <Pingviller25> winenvine: practise
[17:05] <E-XtraCt> Where can I find fonts ?
[17:05] <WDC> summel: Sorry, I don't know what next.
[17:05] <summel> fromt he ubuntu cd and from the arch cd
[17:05] <summel> hmkay
[17:05] <cahb_> ok
[17:05] <ay^> winenvine: being a nerd helped me :D
[17:06] <cahb_> thanks
[17:06] <summel> thx anyways
[17:06] <n8tuser> sceo-> 4.2.2.2 nameserver is invalid
[17:06] <dfgas1> is there a way to boot  a live disk without looking for swap?
[17:06] <winenvine> when I install Java, how can I really locate where Firefox is? There seems to be everywhere.
[17:06] <summel> i would use arch, but that pc only has an i586++ cpu :/
[17:06] <ay^> winenvine: you can install it using the package manager
[17:06] <Goran_> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_test_2008&num=8
[17:06] <n8tuser> winenvine-> which portion of firefox are you seeking?
[17:06] <Goran_> how can ubuntu 7.04 have greater flops than other ubuntus?
[17:06] <sceo> n8tuser; that was outbackwifi's suggestion to try - before I had the 208's and it still didn't work.  I will remove 4.2.2.2 now -  is there something I need to do to make it "re-read" resolv.conf?
[17:07] <n8tuser> sceo-> it automatically uses that file lest you have the entry in /etc/hosts
[17:07] <huuee> hello
[17:07] <winenvine> I can get to most websites with no issues except for those that require run java applets.
[17:07] <winenvine> I am using Firefox 3.
[17:07] <huuee> how can i prevent a package to be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove ?
[17:08] <sceo> n8tuser; ok I did an nslookup and it had my default server as 208.67.222.222 and 220 ; connection timed out, no servers could be reached
[17:08] <SHAYE> hi there
[17:08] <winenvine> But installing java a few times, no errors. But just cannot run on website that run java applets.
[17:08] <markmuetz> hi, can anyone give me a hand getting wireless working with an Atheros wireless card?
[17:08] <Shaye> Is there anyone around who uses VMware workstation on a daily basis-use? I would like to have a quick chat regarding it.
[17:09] <AlexCONRAD> hi, I just upgraded to Intrepid. After reboot then login+password in my session, my session takes a long time to start after the sound theme was played... like frozen for 30 seconds or so (the mouse cursor is stuck on the waiting icon). Then my autostarted apps are being launched correctly... any idea ?
[17:09] <Slart> Goran_: by using a different java engine.. better java settings.. different configurations etc etc
[17:09] <ay^> winenvine: use synaptic
[17:09] <unop> sceo, can you ping that address?
[17:09] <markmuetz> more details at here: http://pastebin.com/m693a6501
[17:09] <n8tuser> sceo-> you remove the # from which line?
[17:09] <ay^> winenvine: and enable all repositories
[17:09] <winenvine> what is the full command? thx
[17:09] <Shaye> Is there anyone around who uses VMware workstation on a daily basis-use? I would like to have a quick chat regarding it. :P
[17:09] <winenvine> I thought I did enable all repositories.
[17:10] <markmuetz> laptop is running 8.10
[17:10] <n8tuser> sceo can you also ping your 192.168.2.99 ?
[17:10] <sceo> n8tuser - both of the nameserver lines... shoudl I only have one?
[17:10] <ay^> winenvine: you have all such as Universe, Restricted and Multiverse enabled?
[17:10] <winenvine> yes.
[17:10] <winenvine> all enabled.
[17:10] <ay^> winenvine: and what was the name of the java plugin you installed?
[17:11] <winenvine> It was 1.6
[17:11] <huuee> how can i prevent a package to be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove ?
[17:11] <ay^> winenvine: sun-java6-plugin ?
[17:11] <r3l1c> hi ... I seem to be unable to update my apt-get
[17:11] <r3l1c> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com interpid/universe Packages
[17:11] <spartanii117> huuee: sudo apt-get install package
[17:11] <n8tuser> sceo can you also ping your 192.168.2.99 ?
[17:11] <odracir34> i havec a problem nobody can help me this chan is the last option, i cant get usb hds and usbstick on my msiwind laptop work propery
[17:12] <winenvine> sorry it was jre 6
[17:12] <unop> huuee, echo "packagename    install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[17:12] <ay^> odracir34: what does that mean? Are they working at all?
[17:12] <sceo> n8tuser it won't ping but I can surf around it in firefox
[17:12] <ay^> winenvine: try the plugin and it should work :)
[17:12] <huuee> unop: i dont understand that command
[17:12] <winenvine> ta, will give it a go.
[17:12] <huuee> unop: will it lock that new package?
[17:12] <winenvine> Question, how do I address certain individuals on this channel?
[17:12] <winenvine> what is d command?
[17:12] <r3l1c> any idea why my apt-get update stopped working suddenly .. i install RC 8.10 when it was out
[17:12] <n8tuser> sceo-> if you can not ping your gateway, how the heck are you able to surf in firefox? what sites can you hit with firefox?
[17:13] <ay^> winenvine: type their name :)
[17:13] <markmuetz> how do i go about debugging an Atheros wireless card?
[17:13] <sceo> n8tuser - anything on my local network
[17:13] <winenvine> ay^
[17:13] <mochabcha> when I open a script in nautilus, and it gives shell output is there a program that lets me view that shell output without opening the script in terminal
[17:13] <markmuetz> i've run $dmesg |grep wifi
[17:13] <winenvine> If want to type thanks to ay^, just type so?
[17:13] <sceo> n8tuser - i.e. my mythbox's mythweb, my 2.99 access point, and my 2.1 router
[17:13] <markmuetz> and I've googled the error
[17:13] <markmuetz> to no avail
[17:13] <n8tuser> sceo-> but you want to access the internet, so you better make sure your gateway is working
[17:13] <ay^> winenvine: and almost every irc-client has tab-completion to make it easier, fex you could type win then press tab and it jumps to winenvine :)
[17:13] <unop> huuee, to understand the command, have a read in the dpkg manpage (specifically set-selections)
[17:13] <mochabcha> when i open programs I want a program that displays the system shell output for me
[17:13] <ay^> winenvine: yes that would be it! :)
[17:13] <markmuetz> anyone lend me a hand?
[17:13] <huuee> unop: thanks
[17:13] <mochabcha> then goes away
[17:13] <outbackwifi> !anyone
[17:13] <sceo> n8tuser - it must be working, I'm on my laptop right now behind the same setup
[17:14] <odracir34> ay i can see them but i cannot get in de hds and usb divices
[17:14] <ay^> winenvine: on my screan that turns into a special color that I most usually notices
[17:14] <winenvine> ay^: I see
[17:14] <markmuetz> why !anyone?
[17:14] <n8tuser> sceo-> why do you hav a 2.99 and 2.1  can you explain?
[17:14] <winenvine> ay^: thanks.
[17:14] <r3l1c> is there a way to reset /etc/apt/sources.list to original state ?
[17:14] <ay^> odracir34: does it help if you are root doing it?
[17:14] <Alpo\> I got X working by adding Option "forcemonitors" "crt1,notv" in xorg.conf , but display looks unusably weird
[17:14] <outbackwifi> sceo: i am a little sceptical about that gateway ip of yours; its non-standard
[17:14] <n8tuser> sceo-> if they are the same setup, compare their gateways
[17:14] <vatts> Hello i just went on shipit page
[17:14] <sceo> n8tuser - the 2.1 doesn't have wireless, it's a vonage router
[17:14] <ay^> winenvine: np, good luck ubuntuing :)
[17:15] <vatts> and today it's 31th of october but what
[17:15] <odracir34> must be superuser to mount
[17:15] <vatts> shipit fails
[17:15] <vatts> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) has not been released yet, but we'll record your request and send you a CD as soon as that happens. Note that delivery will take from six to ten weeks once it is sent.
[17:15] <n8tuser> sceo better yet, explain to us your network layout, its confusing..what device is connected to which?
[17:15] <odracir34> that is on the details
[17:15] <angel12-lappy> hey guys, whenever i try to connect to a network share (on my windows 2003 server) i get an error saying no application is registered to handle this file, or when i type smb://myserver into nautilus, it willshow an empty folder.
[17:15] <smacfarl> hey where is the new time tracker app in 8.10? and how do I upgrade to Open Office 3.0, it doesn't seem to be in synaptic.
[17:15] <outbackwifi> sceo: y dont you draw a diagram :)
[17:15] <Alpo\> the GDM screen is all white and light gray, and the cursor is a box
[17:15] <ay^> odracir34: yes, so can you access them while being root?
[17:15] <koruptid> n8tuser: I can't find any way in Passwords & Encryption to change keyring settings.... the only things I see are for PGP
[17:15] <sysadmin> damn ldap auth broke
[17:15] <sysadmin> su - frith
[17:15] <sysadmin> doh :D
[17:16] <soundray> vatts: it hasn't been released on shipit CDs yet, so have a bit of patience
[17:16] <n8tuser> koruptid-> google for keyring manager and networking in ubuntu ?
[17:16] <vatts> soundray: ok
[17:16] <ay^> odracir34: what I remember from back in the days when I had one of my disk formatted in ntfs, something got mucked up and I could only mount it readable for root
[17:16] <mochabcha> I want to know where is the output of a script that the system runs or does
[17:16] <mochabcha> it have one
[17:16] <ay^> odracir34: thats why I ask
[17:16] <odracir34> ay i see
[17:16] <soundray> mochabcha: it could be in /var/log/syslog, or in another file in the same directory
[17:16] <digitig> koruptid: I'm back! Both drives that I want to mount at startup are NTFS formatted.
[17:17] <sceo> n8tuser, outbackwifi - ok so I have a vonage router that only has wired connections, and he's 2.1 and he's connected to the cable modem.  I have a 2.99 hanging off of that, which is a linksys running dd-wrt.  the linksys controls dhcp, and hands out an IP and the opendns servers.  so, the gateway for anything connected on the wireless is 2.99 -- I could put the dd-wrt router (linksys 2.99 into "router" mode which it seems like it should be in anyway - but it ma
[17:17] <outbackwifi> ay^: these days you use ntfs-3g which lets you read and write
[17:17] <koruptid> digitig, okay
[17:17] <jerbear> is aptitude still the recommended apt front-end?
[17:17] <ay^> outbackwifi: hehe "back in the days" was about 6months ago :)
[17:17] <jerbear> for intrepid
[17:17] <koruptid> digitig, open a terminal window
[17:17] <lolnoob> Can I disable keyring completely?
[17:17] <SimoneB> is there a way to know how the ubuntu kernel has been built? which modules are there, which not, which are builtin?
[17:17] <smacfarl> hello? any takers?
[17:17] <digitig> koruptid: ok
[17:18]  * outbackwifi thought "back in  the days" meant 1996 (redhat 6.1)
[17:18] <Alpo\> jerbear: if you have nothing graphical then yes
[17:18] <koruptid> digitig, okay, do you have both UUID's written down?
[17:18] <Slart> smacfarl: iirc openoffice 3.0 was deemed to unstable.. so it's not in the repos
[17:18] <outbackwifi> sceo: you need to change default gateway to 2.1
[17:18] <soundray> SimoneB: the config file goes to /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[17:18] <sceo> outbackwifi is there a way to force that in ubuntu so I can test without changing the whole network?
[17:18] <Alpo\> I got X working by adding Option "forcemonitors" "crt1,notv" in xorg.conf , but display looks unusably weird, the gdm screen is all white and gray and the mouse cursor is a block
[17:19] <koruptid> smacfarl, you can install ooo3 from the launchpad repo
[17:19] <n8tuser> sceo-> why not put the linksys in-front of your vonage router instead of behind it? that way you can control the linksys, dont know if yuo have full control of vonage router settings
[17:19] <ay^> outbackwifi: hehe no, back in THOSE days I barely knew what a computer was
[17:19] <SimoneB> soundray: something more human-readable?
[17:19] <K-O-D> I am unable to install compizconfig-settings-manager on my ubuntu 8.10 32 bit install - where can I find this package?
[17:19] <huuee> unop: autoremove still wants to remove my different package. any idea?
[17:19] <jerbear> Alpo\: for some reason, whenever i try to install some build dependencies (for vim-full, in this case).. the next time i try to install some packages, it says that it wants to remove all of those build deps b/c they're not in use
[17:19] <sceo> n8tuser I do have a fair amount of control... that might make sense, too
[17:19] <outbackwifi> sceo: yes use the sudo route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw 192.162.2.1 after you delete the earlier route with sudo route del -net 0.0.0.0
[17:19] <clint_> tom davis!
[17:20] <digitig> koruptid: I do now.
[17:20] <soundray> SimoneB: no, you have to use Configure.help from the linux-source package to understand what the entries mean
[17:20] <n8tuser> sceo-> well you have linksys dolling out an ip, that may be in conflict with vonage, so do the righ thing, and not have too many dhcp servers in a subnet
[17:20] <clint_> Back on 8.04 TD
[17:20] <Alpo\> jerbear: mark them as used by pressing m
[17:20] <koruptid> smacfarl, add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list if you want ooo3
[17:20] <RUMMY> which command line web browser is best under ubuntu?
[17:20] <sceo> n8tuser; well I did disable dhcp on the vonage router
[17:20] <soundray> SimoneB: if you have a specific question about the kernel config, try asking here
[17:20] <K-O-D> I am unable to install compizconfig-settings-manager on my ubuntu 8.10 32 bit install - where can I find this package?
[17:20] <outbackwifi> sceo: ideally if your linksys is working like a router, it should hand off ips in a diff subnet
[17:20] <sceo> n8tuser so I do only have one dhcp server on the network
[17:21] <VSpike> If I have the info "fusesmb[16090]: segfault at 4 ip b7c03590 sp b5514dc0 error 4 in libsmbclient.so.0[b7b88000+386000]", and I have the symbol files loaded for fusesmb and libsmbclient, how can I view the line of code causing the problem?
[17:21] <koruptid> digitig, okay, first "cd /mnt/"
[17:21] <Helol> r/"2
[17:21] <soundray> !ccsm | K-O-D
[17:21] <Slart> RUMMY: try this.. type !best in the channel
[17:21] <n8tuser> sceo-> how do you know how the vonage handle an ip address that it has not doled out?
[17:21] <digitig> koruptid: ok
[17:21] <sceo> outbackwifi; I definitely have them behaving on the same subnet
[17:21] <RUMMY> !best
[17:21] <jedimind> how do you go about installing a ttf font in ubuntu ?
[17:21] <jerbear> Alpo\: i'm not using the curses gui. i'm doing this directly at the command line... so: sudo apt-get build-dep vim-full; sudo aptitude install foo
[17:21] <soundray> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | K-O-D
[17:21] <outbackwifi> sceo: then put the ip of the vonage as the gateway in the dhcp server settings in linksys
[17:21] <sceo> n8tuser because the other 4 machines on my network are fine, just not the one I just upgraded to ibex?
[17:21] <smacfarl> koruptid thanks. Will do. What about the time manager app? Which one was addeds? I can't find it.
[17:21] <crsn> Hi all I did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and my ubuntu server is updated. but when I try do-release-upgrade it says there is no new release found :P
[17:21] <soundray> K-O-D: have you enabled the universe repo?
[17:21] <outbackwifi> jedimind: just copy it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[17:22] <K-O-D> soundray, how very odd its saying package not found...
[17:22] <Tundrayeti312> !font | jedimind
[17:22] <koruptid> smacfarl, dunno
[17:22] <K-O-D> im doing an apt-get update hold on
[17:22] <jedimind> cool thank you outbackwifi
[17:22] <Slart> RUMMY: links and lynx are the two I've used
[17:22] <n8tuser> sceo-> look in the vonage router status see how it handles the ip address possibly not on its range..check the settings
[17:22] <Phoenix87> re
[17:22] <Boricua> if i upgrade to 8.10 by update manager does my documents get erased? or its just like a normal update?
[17:22] <RUMMY> :-)) I need web command line web browser, but I don't know which to use :P
[17:22] <Alpo\> why is w3m installed by default in ubuntu?
[17:22] <wheresmydesktop> Booting from Kubuntu CD 8.10: Out of frequency. Ctrl-Alt-"keypad-minus" doesn't help, Ctrl-Alt-F2 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg shows only keyboard options, sudo vi etc/x11/xorg.config shows a file with mostly comments about how now conf is automtic. HELP?
[17:22] <outbackwifi> RUMMY: add w3m to that list
[17:22] <jedimind> outbackwifi: do i have to restart anything before they are recognized ? or is it immediate
[17:22] <soundray> Boricua: your home directory stays untouched. Make a backup before you upgrade, anyway.
[17:23] <Boricua> ok thanks :P
[17:23] <koruptid> digitig, now you need to create to separate mount points (folders) for the two drives.... "sudo mkdir [folder name here]"
[17:23] <outbackwifi> jedimind: this is linux; no restarting/rebooting required
[17:23] <insomninja> in order to squeeze some extra performance from ETQW I made an .xinitrc script to run ETQW only, but there I get no sound, but in gnome I do, is there some sort of daemon or somesuch that needs to be started?
[17:23] <n8tuser> sceo-> and how did those other four host got their ip addresses? you have a unique setup that would be difficult to make work
[17:23] <K-O-D> soundray, its saying couldnt find package
[17:23] <soundray> K-O-D: have you enabled the universe repo?
[17:23] <jedimind> outbackwifi: and should i creat a folder for it? or just copy the ttf into the /fonts/truetype/ and thats it?
[17:23] <paco_the_bot> :)
[17:23] <K-O-D> soundray, I think its enabled by default
[17:23] <psp> )gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't lookup pkcs11 component setting
[17:23] <clint_> Anyone upgrading from the WEB have any problems?
[17:23] <psp> Omg
[17:24] <outbackwifi> jedimind: you could just drop it there
[17:24] <soundray> K-O-D: only if you had a network connection while you were installing
[17:24] <K-O-D> I had one
[17:24] <digitig> koruptid: ok.
[17:24] <jedimind> outbackwifi: thanks
[17:24] <K-O-D> and it is enabled
[17:24] <clint_> ??
[17:24] <K-O-D> so how do I get this package installed
[17:24] <Alpo\> ubuntu has too many cli programs installed by default, for example vim,nano and ed although only one of them would actually be needed
[17:24] <imotic> my wired network is constantly going out on me now... my wireless on windows is much more stable than wired on intrepid
[17:24] <clint_> package manager
[17:24] <outbackwifi> jedimind: let us know if that worked
[17:24] <koruptid> digitig, next you need to open your fstab file to edit it.... "sudo gedit /etc/fstab &"
[17:24] <soundray> K-O-D: then I don't know why you can't find it. Maybe you're spelling it wrong
[17:25] <imotic> anybody know why the wired network would be unstable?
[17:25] <Sunny_Hare> hi
[17:25] <sceo> n8tuser, outbackwifi the vonage router is 192.168.2.1/255.255.255.0 on the network, and dhcp server is disabled, the linksys is 2.99/255.255.255.0 and is the dhcp server.  the whole netmask is available to use, but the dhcp server just hands out between 100 and 150 to the average jamoke (i have 2.5 reserved for my desktop so I can port-forward stuff) -- all the other machine on my network get dhcp from the linksys, but many of them have reservations based on ma
[17:25] <K-O-D> soundray, that was it. Thank you for your help and my apologies for the idiocy.
[17:25] <smacfarl> there is a base-files security update for Intrepid. Anyone know anything about it?
[17:25] <digitig> koruptid: ok, I have the editor open.
[17:25] <sd32> well the new ubuntu has failed me... after burning and checking the cd tried to boot the live cd in two systems one system gives me io errors on boot, and the second boots but firefox failes to start after clicking on the icon
[17:25] <soundray> K-O-D: :) happens to all of us
[17:26] <koruptid> digitig, now you need to add a line for each of the mappings.... the one for my windows drive looks like this: "UUID=3EEA4769EA471D11	/mnt/windrv	ntfs-3g		rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other	0	0"
[17:26] <outbackwifi> sceo: the point is that the linksys is sending out the gateway as 2.99 which is not correct; just change that to 2.1 and everything should work
[17:26] <jedimind> outbackwifi: worked like a charm, thanks again
[17:26] <sceo> outbackwifi; well, I did a route del / route add on my desktop and it's still not working
[17:26] <outbackwifi> jedimind: yw
[17:26] <amigrave> how can I use the windows key in order to assign shortcuts ? I go to System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcut then I want to use Win+Right for action "switch to workspace on the right" but it doesn't work. When I click on button in order to change the shortcut, I press Win+Right but the button caption becomes "SuperL"
[17:26] <Shaye> Is it possible to work with 2 monitors on ubuntu with no much trouble? :P
[17:26] <n8tuser> sceo pastebin the route -ran or netstat -an  of your windows hosts lets compare them
[17:26] <outbackwifi> sceo: what does your route look like now?
[17:26] <koruptid> digitig, the first part is the location of the drive... in this case by UUID
[17:27] <Alpo\> I got X working by adding Option "forcemonitors" "crt1,notv" in xorg.conf , but display looks unusably weird, the gdm screen is all white and gray and the mouse cursor is a square, I'm using an ati card and installed the driver with envyng
[17:27] <koruptid> digitig, the next part is the path to mount your drive to
[17:27] <Slart> Shaye: not sure if there is an easy gui way of doing it
[17:27] <sceo> outbackwifi; after the route del /route add I see [ 0.0.0.0 using gw 192.168.2.1]
[17:27] <n8tuser> sceo those from the four other host that you said were working
[17:27] <Slart> !twinview | Shaye
[17:27] <linux_trojan> I got a quick question, Ubuntu is coming out with a new release, should I rush to install or wait a few weeks to see if it is stable?
[17:27] <outbackwifi> Slart: Shaye use grandr
[17:28] <Alpo\> linux_trojan: if you have ati video card then wait
[17:28] <koruptid> digitig, then the filesystem to use... you'll want to use ntfs-3g for yours and the options I listed after that... and the 0 0 is also necessary
[17:28] <Slart> outbackwifi: grandr.. xrandr for gnome? sounds interesting
[17:28] <n8tuser> linux_trojan-> you can join the fray..and start pulling hairs out..lol
[17:28] <Alpo\> linux_trojan: also check bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid before upgrading
[17:28] <linux_trojan> I guess is just a gamble
[17:28] <outbackwifi> sceo: now if you do a traceroute to an ip outside the vonage you should be able to see where the packets are going  to
[17:28] <M0E-lnx> guys... I'm trying to connect a laptop using a one of those USB modems from verizon ... gnome-ppp used to work in hardy for that.. but now in intrepid, it says I have bad permissions on /etc/ppp/ppp-secrets
[17:28] <M0E-lnx> can someone suggest anything?
[17:28] <Slart> linux_trojan: wait a few weeks if you just want a working system
[17:28] <sceo> n8tuser, outbackwifi; http://pastebin.com/d754239bf that's the route -n from my working mythbox
[17:28] <tonisius> Meh, too many people here, but here goes:   How do I enable user auth on a remote ubuntu SMTP server??
[17:29] <smacfarl> any takers on what the base-files security update is about in intrepid?
[17:29] <n8tuser> sceo and the other four host you mentioned?
[17:29] <linux_trojan> yea I just want a working system, what else could I want?
[17:29] <hubar> hi all!
[17:29] <lifestream> Hello hubar!
[17:29] <outbackwifi> sceo: and the mythbox connects to the internet ok?
[17:29] <Slart> linux_trojan: a bleeding edge system to impress your friends with? =)
[17:29] <linux_trojan> oh I see
[17:29] <sceo> outbackwifi; yeah I'm apt-get installing traceroute on the mythbox now
[17:29] <kebomix> hello , after i downloaded ubuntu 8.10 and burned it on cd , after boot and while it try to load ubuntu it give me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/65304/ ? what is wrong with it ?
[17:29] <cat6> could someone refer me to a document about resizing a raid device in ubuntu? i have a raid device i would like to reduce with lvm on top and i already have the physical volume reduced
[17:29] <linux_trojan> no I want performance
[17:29] <hubar> I wanna complement what a terrifc job ubuntu did in upgrading from hardy to intrepid!
[17:30] <sceo> n8tuser outbackwifi lemme run downstairs and pastebin the routing tables from my winxp box
[17:30] <linux_trojan> I guess I will wait a few weeks
[17:30] <Skry^> linux_trojan, if you want performance go for gentoo or something
[17:30] <Tekno> http://pastebin.ca/1241721 any help plz :|
[17:30] <M0E-lnx> anybody uses a usb broadband stick?
[17:30] <lifestream> linux_trojan,  hey I just joined the channel, can you tell us again what problems you are having (im kinda interested ;p)
[17:30] <outbackwifi> sceo: is the linksys connected to the vonage via internet port or lan port?
[17:30] <linux_trojan> there were lots of bugs in the 8.0 system
[17:30] <kebomix> help me plz
[17:30] <hubar> With a question, what do I do with emerald theme? How do i apply one??
[17:30] <lifestream> Skry^, eh, I got both intrepid and linux mint 5 and both run very very fast on my laptop, with nice effects too. Very fast
[17:30] <digitig> koruptid: Ok. Now File->Save?
[17:30] <linux_trojan> I am having problems with specifying a fixed IP with m WEP system
[17:31] <Rorgo> does anyone know if a '0' at the end of a mount definition in fstab means that the filesystem will never be checked, or just not periodically checked? That is, in the filesystem is shut down uncleanly, will it still check it regardless of that number?
[17:31] <linux_trojan> I can go wep and DHCP but not fixed IP
[17:31] <koruptid> digitig, yes... and then a reboot
[17:31] <Yimpolo> Is the X window system fast enough to stream video over the local network?
[17:31] <M0E-lnx> !dvd
[17:31] <lifestream> hubar,  do you have emerald installed? can you type         which emerald           on a terminal, and tell  me what it says?
[17:31] <digitig> koruptid: ok, see you soon...
[17:31] <wheresmydesktop> trying again please.. Booting from Kubuntu CD 8.10: Out of frequency. Ctrl-Alt-"keypad-minus" doesn't help, Ctrl-Alt-F2 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg shows only keyboard options, sudo vi etc/x11/xorg.config shows a file with mostly comments about how now conf is automtic. help?
[17:31] <kebomix> hello , after i downloaded ubuntu 8.10 and burned it on cd , after boot and while it try to load ubuntu live to install it , it give me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/65304/ ? what is wrong with it ?
[17:31] <Sunny_Hare> flood channel
[17:31] <smacfarl> koruptid by adding that line to sources.list I get a bunch of updates. Trying to install them warns me that they can't be authenticated? What is that about?
[17:31] <Slart> Rorgo: check the man page.. I think it's not checked automatically on every X boots
[17:31] <hubar> lifestream: yes I have it.
[17:32] <linux_trojan> when I set up my net work I can belive that I have to actually specify the name of my network, Mandriva doesnt make you do that for WEP
[17:32] <outbackwifi> Yimpolo: what do you mean? the X window system has got nothing to do with streaming video
[17:32] <xnv> Anyone know how to change your hostname via GUI in 8.10?
[17:32] <linux_trojan> *cant belive
[17:32] <koruptid> smacfarl, the packages on launchpad don't have authentication.... because they are beta packages
[17:32] <Rorgo> Slart: thanks. The man page is a little unclear on it
[17:32] <sceo> outbackwifi n8tuser routing tables from windows http://pastebin.com/m7e37ae13
[17:32] <Skry^> lifestream, i have hardy and intrepid too, i'm not disappointed on ubuntus performance, but still, it's not the fastest one around, even though performance differents are quite marginal
[17:32] <prower> hello...my network card (e1000e based chipset) has been affected by the kernel bug that was supposed to be fixed before the final release :< is there any way to recover it
[17:32] <koruptid> smacfarl, I told it to continue and installed without issue
[17:32] <sd32> can anyone tell me why firefox 3 fails to load in the new version
[17:32] <hubar> lifestream: i have the emerald theme manager too in system->.administration, I was wondering how I can use it.
[17:32] <KalEl> my internal hard disk drives are all suddenly showing up as removable drives!
[17:32] <lifestream> hubar in that case you should be able to double click the    theme_name.emerald, and a window will come up with your options, pick what you want, then on a terminal, type    emerald --replace&         You can also to go your session preferences, and type that line as a command there, so it launches every time you login
[17:33] <linux_trojan> the only good thing about Ubuntu is that it comes configured for flash  and has a great forum
[17:33] <evan__> hey how the hack can i unlock my recievedirectory , apt claims to have an unreacheble helpsource
[17:33] <pz8> hi, i have problems with my grub and dont run ubuntu, so i need recover the data from the disk ext3. How to do that???????????????
[17:33] <hubar> lifestream: I meant prefeerence.
[17:33] <DoYouKnow> what's a fast bittorrent client for ubuntu?
[17:33] <n8tuser> sceo-> what the heck you have 2.1 and 2.4 as gateways?
[17:33] <lifestream> hubar,  preference?
[17:33] <smacfarl> koruptid any idea when they will go from beta to approved?
[17:33] <lifestream> DoYouKnow, they all depend on your router and your internet connection :P
[17:33] <hubar> lifestream: theme_name?
[17:33] <KalEl> my internal hard disk drives are all suddenly showing up as removable drives! how can i tell ubuntu that they are actually not removable?
[17:33] <hubar> lifestream: where do I find that file?
[17:33] <koruptid> smacfarl, no idea.... from what I was reading on the forums they don't seem to be in any hurry to make the trainsition to 3.0
[17:33] <Eric2> yesterday i did a update that updated java and afterward a java program of mine said that my java directory didnt exist so all i had to do was point it in the right direction but what happened?
[17:34] <linux_trojan> well anyway, I guess I will wait a month to get the latest Ubuntu, I want a working system and not bleeding edge
[17:34] <DoYouKnow> lifestream, so depending on my router config and network config, different programs will have different speeds?
[17:34] <lifestream> hubar,  do you have a theme that you want to install? Or are you looking to make one? ^_^;
[17:34] <outbackwifi> sceo: see the gateway is 2.1
[17:34] <hubar> lifestream: I wanna try oxygen.
[17:34] <linux_trojan> thanks for the input
[17:34] <hubar> lifestream: It is what in emerald theme manager.
[17:34] <pz8> hi, i have problems with my grub and dont run ubuntu, so i need recover the data from the disk ext3. How to do that??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//
[17:34] <evan__> how can i lock my aptitude receive manager?
[17:34] <Skry^> hey 64bit users, is flash working for you? For me, sometimes it loads, sometimes not.
[17:35] <Eric2> pz8 are you on windows?
[17:35] <kebomix> lifestream: hello , after i downloaded ubuntu 8.10 and burned it on cd , after boot and while it try to load ubuntu it give me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/65304/ ? what is wrong with it ?
[17:35] <sceo> outbackwifi; lan port
[17:35] <Kartagis> hello
[17:35] <pz8> Eric2, no i run a liveCd
[17:35] <cat6> could someone refer me to a document about resizing a raid device in ubuntu?
[17:35] <M0E-lnx> can someone help me fix permissions for gnom-ppp?
[17:35] <lifestream> hubar,  have you downloaded the oxygen theme from the internet? When you get it, it should have a some_file_name.emerald  to install it.
[17:35] <KalEl> my internal hard disk drives are all suddenly showing up as removable drives! how can i tell ubuntu that they are actually not removable? please?
[17:35] <sceo> outbackwifi on windows the default gateway is 99
[17:35] <koruptid> KalEl: is this a new install of ubuntu?
[17:35] <Kartagis> do i need to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or what to be upgraded to 8.10?
[17:36] <Eric2> pz8, so your trying to access your ext3 partition from the live cd?
[17:36] <Pici> !upgrade | Kartagis
[17:36] <lifestream> hey kebomix  I saw your error. I think that you burnt the CD at a high speed. Can you burn the ISO at the LOWEST speed possible?  I know it sounds silly, but burning at high speed can cause errors on the CD
[17:36] <KalEl> koruptid, nope, it's the same one i've been using for 3 years now
[17:36] <pz8> Eric2, how to do that??
[17:36] <Birdwatch> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but installer stops at loading linux kernal 100%, then eventually went to a black screen with blinking cursor.. any idea what could be wrong?
[17:36] <sceo> but the 2.4 sure is confusing :)
[17:36] <digitig> koruptid: Ok, I'm back. Now the drives don't appear under the places, and I can't see them under /mnt/ directories. Does that mean I got something wrong, or is there another step?
[17:36] <hubar> lifestream: hmm, what is a good place to download emerald themes?
[17:36] <KalEl> koruptid, i keep on updating of course
[17:36] <markmuetz> anybody using wireless with a atheros card?
[17:36] <koruptid> KalEl: any recent hardware changes?
[17:36] <r3l1c> Hi .. CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW TO GET CORRECT GPG FOR APT ? apt=get update stopped working because of this
[17:36] <markmuetz> if so can you run ifconfig and tell me what you see?
[17:37] <koruptid> digitig, they aren't showing up in the /mnt/ directory?
[17:37] <kebomix> lifestream: ok i thought that too , i will try and  come back to u , thanks :)
[17:37] <hubar> markmuetz: I am.
[17:37] <Bagualas> anyone can help with openfire?
[17:37] <koruptid> digitig, are the folders still there?
[17:37] <KalEl> koruptid, nah but i remember i once attached an external hard drive last week
[17:37] <sd32> not a good sign to have 1500+people in the chat after launch
[17:37] <hubar> markmuetz: I gave up on the madwifi driver though, I am using ndiswrapper now. :)
[17:37] <fouad> #ubuntu-fr
[17:37] <lifestream> hubar,  everyone loves gnome-look.org :) go here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/search.php and search for the word emerald. when the page reloads, scrool down.
[17:37] <koruptid> KalEl: are you using fuse to mount the drives or fstab?
[17:37] <Slart> sd32: it's like this most of the time.. release or no release
[17:38] <sd32> oh
[17:38] <Eric2> pz8, when on the klive cd go to menu > places
[17:38] <markmuetz> hubar: don't fancy the ndiswrapper approach, have heard it's quite hard and doesn't always work for my card
[17:38] <Eric2> pz8, you should see your partition
[17:38] <markmuetz> looks like i'm going to have to try it though
[17:39] <Kartagis> !intrepid
[17:39] <KalEl> koruptid, i don't know really what fuse is... but i do have an fstab
[17:39] <digitig> koruptid: No. The folders are there, but nothing in them. For example, I created /mnt/Windows and added the line UUID=DA3C0DD43C0DAC97 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=0,group_id=0, allow_other 0 0
[17:39] <hubar> markmuetz: I am using lenovo T61
[17:39] <kitply> hi everyone
[17:39] <alfredo0305> hi, can someone confirm problems with the 8.10 live cd? i get a prompt "(initramfs)"
[17:39] <oferw> how do I Write Ubuntu to and Install from a USB Drive
[17:39] <lorenzo> hi, i just did a fresh install to 8.10. I cant find a lot of stuff that I used to have in synaptic (like non-free plugin and deluge, for example). How do I fix that? thanks
[17:39] <oferw> ?
[17:39] <markmuetz> hubar: do you have a link to a decent walkthrough that i can follow?
[17:39] <tavish> wat is an ibex
[17:39] <Slart> !install | oferw
[17:39] <KalEl> koruptid, i'm mounting ext2 and ntfs partitions, all show up as removable
[17:39] <Kartagis> !hi | kitply
[17:39] <Eric2> pz8 ?
[17:40] <Pici> tavish: Its a mountain goat type thing. Check wikipedia
[17:40] <hubar> markmuetz: hold on
[17:40] <sd32> can anyone tell me why firefox is refusing to launch on the live cd?
[17:40] <koruptid> digitig, is that space after the groupid in the actual file? if it is it isn't mounting because your fstab entry is bad
[17:40] <kitply> !mp3
[17:40] <Slart> oferw: I think that last link.. tinyurl.. has info for usb installs
[17:40] <Appi> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[17:40] <E-XtraCt> how can I change firefox profile's folder ?
[17:40] <markmuetz> huber: using a samsung r60
[17:40] <Kartagis> !intrepid | tavish
[17:40] <pz8> Eric2, thank man
[17:40] <koruptid> KalEl: hmm, honestly not sure
[17:40] <thomc> Does having lots of packages installed on your system slow it down?
[17:40] <BikgerGeek> sd32: try launching it from a shell to see if there's any error messages.
[17:40] <Eric2> pz8, np you got it working?
[17:40] <KalEl> i must reinstall ubuntu
[17:40] <Slart> thomc: not for general use, no.. doing updates and stuff might get slower though
[17:41] <markmuetz> hubar: what wirless card does your lenovo have?
[17:41] <thomc> ok thanks slart
[17:41] <sd32> bikergeek,thanks ill try that
[17:41] <oferw> I want to install ubuntu from the usb
[17:41] <sceo> n8tuser outbackwifi - so when I traceroute from my laptop it hops to .99 then to .1 then to the outside world... seems like the right thing despite my messed up set up.. when I traceroute from my desktop, I just get all *'s
[17:41] <koruptid> oferw: do you have a burned LiveCD?
[17:41] <pz8> yep bye Eric2
[17:41] <oferw> not yet I am now download the last version
[17:41] <Appi> how to set the permission in ubuntu
[17:42] <Eric2> np pz8 gl
[17:42] <DasEi> Appi: permission for what ?
[17:42] <markmuetz> hubar: do i have to remove all my attempts to get madwifi working as well?
[17:42] <koruptid> oferw: after you boot off the LiveCD there is an option in the System menu to create a USB installer
[17:42] <hubar> markmuetz: I have net5211.
[17:43] <Appi> DasEi: I am trying to save a python file, But it say I have no permission to save it
[17:43] <sd32> what do io errors on boot of the live cd mean?
[17:43] <hubar> markmuetz: I can not say about madwifi, mine always stops working after a while.
[17:43] <digitig> koruptid: Yes it was. Rebooting again...
[17:43] <snova> why doesn't synaptic show any results when i search for packages?
[17:43] <koruptid> sd32, bad burn or bad cd-rom drive
[17:43] <markmuetz> hubar: mine too, was working and stopped one day
[17:43] <sd32> koruptid, OK THANKS
[17:43] <hubar> markmuetz: I would suggest trying ndiswrapper.
[17:43] <sd32> sorry caps
[17:43] <Eric2> snova do you have the repositorys activated?
[17:44] <markmuetz> hubar: cheers, will give it a shot
[17:44] <jNoxx> All my problems are disappeared)
[17:44] <BikgerGeek> sd32:  Depends on the error, but it's usually because the cdrom is having trouble reading the disk.  Try burning it at a slower rate.
[17:44] <hubar> markmuetz: It is fairly easy and painless.
[17:44] <E-XtraCt> If I have ubuntu and vista installed on the same PC, Is it possible to use the same firefox profile ?
[17:44] <mrkris> How does one use LVM in conjunction with KVM
[17:44] <jNoxx> I fix my x server
[17:44] <markmuetz> adios
[17:44] <jNoxx> For radeoh hd3470
[17:44] <djbender> i'm noticing that my wifi broke with intrepid ipw2200 i believe is my hardware, any fixes?
[17:44] <hubar> markmuetz: awesome. Good luck
[17:44] <Appi> DasEi: I am new the Ubuntu Please help me
[17:44] <jNoxx> It works fine)
[17:44] <sd32> BikgerGeek, ok thanks again
[17:44] <Pici> Appi: Where are you trying to save it?
[17:44] <jNoxx> but radeon mustdie))
[17:44] <snova> Eric2: everything is set up correctly, but nothing shows up if i type something in the box. (i'm comfortable with Ubuntu, just not with synaptic)
[17:45] <tonisius> Meh, too many people here, but here goes:   How do I enable user auth on a remote ubuntu SMTP server??
[17:45] <n8tuser> sceo-> what you paste for windowsxp route table... for one machine or four?
[17:45] <Alpo\> Appi: remember you cannot save anything to system directories
[17:45] <outbackwifi> E-XtraCt: yes if you setup a sym link from the ubuntu firefox folder to the vista
[17:45] <Eric2> snova did you check your software sources?
[17:45] <whoop> need help setting up static ip on intrepid! It got lost when I upgraded from hardy. Tried allot of things, nothing worked.
[17:45] <sceo> n8tuser just that one windows machine
[17:45] <E-XtraCt> outbackwifi: how can I do that ?
[17:46] <Appi> Pici: I modified the existing one and trying to save it but it says i have no permission, I have little knowledge on chown
[17:46] <norbert> hello everyone
[17:46] <outbackwifi> tonisius: this should point you in the right direction --> http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg29t05.htm
[17:46] <Pici> Appi: What directory is the file in? Is it in your home folder? Somewhere else?
[17:46] <DasEi> Appi: opened with an editor ?
[17:46] <digitig> koruptid: Back again (isn't a reboot /quick/ under Ubuntu!) and all seems to be working fine. Many thanks.
[17:46] <n8tuser> sceo-> does that make sense to you? having those different subnets? 64.233.183.17 67.x.x.x 68.x.x 152.10.x.x  205.x .x.x and 208.x.x.x
[17:46] <lolnoob> Anybody got solution with that gnome-keyring-daemon problem?
[17:46] <tonisius> outbackwifi: thanks
[17:47] <Eric2> brb
[17:47] <snova> Eric2: now it's only showing installed packages.
[17:47] <koruptid> digitig, no worries..... for future not, you can escape a reboot by using the command "mount [path]"
[17:47] <koruptid> *note
[17:47] <alfredo0305> the LiveCD gets me into a "(initramfs)" prompt. this didn't happen with 7.10 for example. any hints where to search for the problem?
[17:47] <DasEi> Appi: either you can use sth like gksu gedit >pythonfile<  or use chmod or chown to change ownwership of the file
[17:47] <outbackwifi> E-XtraCt: a) mount the Vista partition in /etc/fstab b) use ln -s to create a symbolic link
[17:48] <Maeva> the new ubuntu 8.10 is really great, it starts up more fast and more hardware is detected from in the beginning :) however I don't hear any sound. I have a HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[17:48] <digitig> koruptid: Thanks -- but as they now boot at startup I shouldn't need that :-)
[17:48] <n8tuser> sceo-> also what the heck you have 2.1 and 2.4 as gateways? and then 192.168.2.99 as default..you have one heck of strange setup
[17:48] <sceo> n8tuser - yeah, I think windows is dynamically adding routes... I just went to one of the IPs and got a web site for a spa (I know my girlfriend was looking at spas yesterday)
[17:48] <koruptid> digitig, good times... speaking of... did those show up in your Places?
[17:48] <norbert> anyone here with knowledge about dual screen + nvidia + x ?
[17:48] <Appi> DesEi: the file already and I am trying to save the modified one.  ye you right I dont know how chown works
[17:49] <whoop> Does anybody else have problems with static ip in intrepid ?
[17:49] <Eric2> snova could it be your connection?
[17:49] <n8tuser> sceo-> nope, that does not make sense, dynamically adding routes..lest your system is hacked and the remote can change your route for you
[17:49] <sceo> n8tuser; yes it's admittedly very weird - but I think it's something weird we're overlooking.  I can surf 2.99 on ibex, but I can't ping or traceroute it!  makes me initally think there's just a firewall blocking icmp or something weird
[17:49] <debeee> Does anyone have wireless working on Intrpid. I use an AR242X
[17:49] <DasEi> Appi: (nick-spelling!)  in terminal : sudo chown >UrUsername<  >Phythonfile<
[17:49] <digitig> koruptid: No, I went in through Places->Computer and selected filesystem.
[17:49] <Appi> DasEi: please tell me the command to give permission to the following  /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite/settings.py.
[17:49] <linux_trojan> I was wondering if I should download the new UBUNTU immediately or if I should wait a few weeks to let the bugs work themselves out?
[17:49] <sceo> n8tuser; but then, nslookup should still work since its tcp/udp on 53
[17:49] <linux_trojan> any suggestions?
[17:49] <DasEi> Appi: your standard username ?
[17:50] <outbackwifi> linux_trojan: wait for a month
[17:50] <n8tuser> sceo-> tell you what, do a drawing so we can comprehend your network layout, and put the ip addresses on the drawing, it does not make sense from what you pasted so far..
[17:50] <koruptid> digitig, k..... you can add a link to those in your places by dragging them into the left bar in the file manager
[17:50] <snova> Eric2: of course not, i'm right here! but when i open synaptic, type 'vim' in the box, i only get two results- both are installed. and i know there are other vim related packages that are installed, and some that are not installed.
[17:50] <Appi> DasEi;
[17:50] <linux_trojan> that seems to be everyones advice, I think I will wait
[17:50] <Appi> Ok
[17:50] <sceo> n8tuser k
[17:50] <norbert> anyone here with knowledge about dual screen + nvidia + x ?
[17:50] <whoop> linux_trojan: install it, if there are any bugs for you they will be fixed sooner then ;-)
[17:50] <DasEi> Appi: got it ?
[17:51] <linux_trojan> lol whoop, i dont want to be a gunea pig, I need a system that works
[17:51] <digitig> koruptid: That's handy. Thanks again.
[17:51] <Appi> DasEi: I am trying
[17:51] <DasEi> Appi: your standard username ?
[17:51] <marko-_-> linux_trojan, i'm havin 8.10 and it's works fine
[17:51] <jochem__> How can I replace Nautilus with thunar in Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:51] <koruptid> digitig, welcome to linux.  ;-)
[17:51] <whoop> I installed before it was released, it works fine for me, only I can't get static ip to work
[17:51] <imotic> hm. is /etc/network/interfaces supposed to mention eth0?
[17:51] <Alpo\> i have 8.10 and it doens't work
[17:51] <Eric2> snova have you checked your filters?
[17:51] <Appi> DasEi: srinivasa
[17:51] <Alpo\> I got X working by adding Option "forcemonitors" "crt1,notv" in xorg.conf , but display looks unusably weird, the gdm screen is all white and gray and the mouse cursor is a square, I'm using an ati card and installed the driver with envyng
[17:51] <linux_trojan> I think I am goona wait
[17:51] <twisted`> where can I change my language preference? I login as root and it's all dutch... horrible... the main user however prefers dutch, so I installed it as dutch, how can I config the root to be english?
[17:52] <linux_trojan> I hate a buggy system
[17:52] <outbackwifi> imotic: not if network manager is handling connections
[17:52] <n8tuser> linux_trojan-> wise choice
[17:52] <marko-_-> i have a nvidia card, works well :)
[17:52] <linux_trojan> I hate bugs
[17:52] <DasEi> Appi: sudo chown  srinivasa      /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite/settings.py.
[17:52] <leitgebj> anyone know if there is a way to downgrade to ruby 1.8.6 from 1.8.7 after the 8.10 upgrade?
[17:52] <linux_trojan> ants
[17:52] <linux_trojan> roaches
[17:52] <linux_trojan> spyders
[17:52] <snova> Eric2: huh? i haven't changed anything... maybe i'll just install adept.
[17:52] <Pici> linux_trojan: Please keep the conversation here on topic.
[17:52] <linux_trojan> *spiders
[17:52] <marko-_-> spiders are cool
[17:52] <Pici> !ot
[17:52] <koruptid> anybody have any clues on how to fix the low input volume on an Intel HD Audio Mic?
[17:52] <linux_trojan> I am just making a joke
[17:53] <linux_trojan> if you dont like it you can ban me
[17:53] <n8tuser> leitgebj-> purge 1.8.6 then install 1.8.7
[17:53] <leitgebj> thanks n8tuser ! :)
[17:53] <macpo3> hmm, if I rsync /var/vcache/apt/archives on a machine I haven't upgraded with the same dir on a machine I have upgraded, will that make the upgrade faster?
[17:53] <koruptid> linux_trojan, I misplaced my "dump" button or I would
[17:53] <The_Dr> How can I tell what video driver is being loaded?
[17:53] <imotic> outbackwifi, how do i reset/restart the network if the network manager is managing it? my WIRED connection is dying every 5 minutes or less :(
[17:53] <Pici> linux_trojan: I'm asking you to keep it on topic, the channel is already busy enough without you naming insects. :)
[17:53] <leitgebj> n8tuser: wait, do you mean the other way around?  I want 1.8.6 back
[17:53] <linux_trojan> you are crazy
[17:53] <norbert> does anyone here have dual screen? or can someone help me get some advice on how to set it up, so I have a bigger desktop, but can fullscreen and maximize windows on 1?
[17:53] <n8tuser> leitgebj-> yeah the other way around.
[17:54] <MagicPee> ok, newbie question : i'm trying to unpack xampp with this command : tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -C /opt
[17:54] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:54] <MagicPee> but it seems like it isnt working
[17:54] <linux_trojan> you sound like a little sissy girly just complain complain
[17:54] <leitgebj> n8tuser: cool, I'll do that
[17:54] <digitig> koruptid: does that mean I have to learn emacs now? ;-)
[17:54] <Eric2> snova sorry just seems a bit beyond me :(
[17:54] <whoop> ok, FINAL call! need help with static ip setup in intrepid!
[17:54] <Pici> !coc > linux_trojan
[17:54] <evan__> im doing an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and my pc is already upgrading from 14:0 clock... its been busy for 5 hoers and needs another 4,5 hour , what is it doeing?
[17:54] <DasEi> Appi: though you can change the ownership to save the file, its not a good idea to have normal user access to confi-files
[17:54] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:54] <emilien> !linux_trojan
[17:54] <n8tuser> evan__-> the servers are extremely busy..wait another week
[17:54] <linux_trojan> call the police
[17:55] <snova> Eric2: maybe i should just stick with the familiar kde programs. i like gnome, though... thanks anyway.
[17:55] <linux_trojan> linux trojan is a troll
[17:55] <lucas_> how do i use usb on a virtual box machine??
[17:55] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:55] <Appi> DasEi: but I should modify the existing file to execute django project
[17:56] <evan__> n8tuser: it isnt the server... download was ready in 15 mins...!
[17:56] <The_Dr> How can I tell what video driver is being loaded?
[17:56] <DasEi> Appi: then use gedit/kate/nano- whatever as superuser, also see :
[17:56] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:56] <koruptid> digitig, only if you promise to teach me
[17:56] <DasEi> !sudo
[17:56] <Pici> Appi: Everything in your user's home folder should be owned by your user.
[17:56] <evan__> n8tuser: im not realy a newb...
[17:56] <outbackwifi> !repeat | lolnoob
[17:56] <DasEi> !sudo>Appi
[17:56] <emilien> need help i have a sd which is read only file system how can i change permissions ?
[17:56] <unique_> have  a problem.... i cant connect to my wifi router keeps asking for the pw.... i ran a crack on my wep and it found it but couldent verifie it.... network man keeps asking for the key... i tryed sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart with no luck
[17:56] <n8tuser> evan__-> if it has to compile anything -- that takes time..so be patient, have a nice cup of joe
[17:57] <jernst> lucas_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB
[17:57] <koruptid> so what does one do if both IRC and the forums have absolutely no idea on how to fix an issue?
[17:57] <snova> koruptid: what might it be?
[17:57] <whoop> :-(
[17:57] <digitig> koruptid: Deal! Back to searching for a WiFi driver now -- but at least I can now listen to my music whilst I'm doing it.
[17:57] <n8tuser> koruptid-> roll your own
[17:57] <silici0> hi there, u using crontab to run rsync on 3 in 3 hours, but just rsyncing to a usb external HD, looking my process the mount ntfs to run my external HD uses more than 30% of my CPU
[17:57] <outbackwifi> koruptid: try to fix it yourself
[17:57] <unique_> i can connect if its open....
[17:57] <silici0> its making my system crash !!!
[17:57] <norbert> does anyone here have dual screen? or can someone help me get some advice on how to set it up, so I have a bigger desktop, but can fullscreen and maximize windows on 1?
[17:57] <emilien> need help i have a usb which is read only file system how can i change permissions ?
[17:57] <evan__> n8tuser: why would i go compileing???....
[17:58] <DasEi> Appi:back to your example it would be : gksu gedit /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite/settings.py.
[17:58] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:58] <jernst> emilien: what file system ?
[17:58] <outbackwifi> emilien: change the write-protect off on the usb stick
[17:58] <silici0> ;/
[17:58] <evan__> i have only debs from ubuntu installed
[17:58] <outbackwifi> !repeat | lolnoob
[17:58] <evan__> n8tuser:
[17:58] <n8tuser> evan__-> i dont know, i said if it does..just learn to be patient will you?
[17:58] <DasEi> !repeat|lolnoob
[17:58] <noglorp> I just got a new optical mouse (wired usb) and ubuntu does not detect it
[17:58] <koruptid> snova, my RealTek audio mic on my laptop is working... but the input volume is cranked to as high as possible and all that comes through is barely a whisper.... and it is not a hardware issue
[17:58] <noglorp> how do I install a mouse?
[17:58] <silici0> does anyone who can help-me ?
[17:58] <romes1> anyone can tell how to use proxy in transmission
[17:58] <jernst> noglorp: there is nothing to install
[17:59] <Tundrayeti312> !anyone
[17:59] <jernst> noglorp: what does lsusb say ?
[17:59] <koruptid> snova, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963830
[17:59] <Pici> Appi: You really shouldn't need to use sudo to modify things within your user's home directory.  Doing so will introduce permissions problems in the future.  If you do the command:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER   (be careful with that command, remember linux is case sensitive) then you should not have this problem in the future.
[17:59] <linux_trojan> how did I get back in here?
[17:59] <noglorp> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041e:1053 Creative Technology, Ltd
[17:59] <E-XtraCt> Can you recommend about a good translator ?
[17:59] <noglorp> thats my mouse
[17:59] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:59] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:59] <lolnoob> ANYONE having this error too? http://pastebin.com/m3e2edfd0
[17:59] <FloodBot3> lolnoob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <emilien> outbackwifi:  thanks , just checked there is a write protect switch on it how point less and annyoing
[17:59] <evan__> n8tuser: i am patient... far 5 hours already... i see its not busy compileing its bussy configureing installing an dd replacing config ffiles....
[17:59] <Pici> !patience > lolnoob
[17:59] <romes1> anyone can tell me how to use proxy in transmission
[18:00] <snova> koruptid: i know very little about audio, sorry. but there's always the unanswered posts team, i suppose.
[18:00] <linux_trojan> I have to ask a serious question:   What network is this?  irc.ubuntu.com or irc.freenode.net?
[18:00] <silici0> what a confusion in the channel ;/
[18:00] <Appi> Pici: could please send me the syntax to get the permission for the following /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite
[18:00] <koruptid> snova, how long do they take to respond?
[18:00] <n8tuser> evan__-> thats a trade off between upgrade and fresh install, thats why i prefer and suggest a fresh install, less problematic
[18:00] <Pici> Appi: The same thing that was in my last message
[18:00] <noglorp> jersnt how do I configure it?
[18:00] <norbert> Can someone help me get some advice on how to set up a dual screen, so I do have a bigger desktop, but can fullscreen and maximize windows on 1? I think it means having seperate xservers, I'm not sure. Does someone know whether it is possible and if so how?
[18:00] <noglorp> it can actually click and right click
[18:00] <DasEi> silici0: mind a pm ?
[18:00] <koruptid> snova, and/or how do I ask them for help?
[18:00] <Tom_Davis> silici0: you are in #ubuntu on the irc.freenode.net
[18:00] <jernst> noglorp: didn't know creative was making mice
[18:00] <Pici> linux_trojan: irc.ubuntu.com points to irc.freenode.net
[18:00] <snova> koruptid: no idea, i just know that they exist.
[18:00] <noglorp> doesn't control the pointer
[18:00] <Petrov> linux_trojan: irc.freenode.net
[18:00] <noglorp> they make a few gamers mice
[18:00] <koruptid> snova, ah
[18:01] <linux_trojan> LOL
[18:01] <Appi> DasEi:could you please send me the syntax to get the permission for the following /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite
[18:01] <linux_trojan> I just cant win
[18:01] <Maeva> hi I can't hear any sound in ubuntu 8.10 how come ? I use HDA Nvidia
[18:01] <evan__> n8tuser: sorry for my responds.. i admire your help... but when ive waited for 5 hours of installing i know ive been patient....
[18:01] <jernst> noglorp: what model is it ?
[18:01] <linux_trojan> why me GOD?
[18:01] <Soopa> hi all
[18:01] <mcm75> Howdy all, is there a problem with the ati driver in 8.10?
[18:01] <silici0> Tom_Davis: there is another one where ppl are civilized ?
[18:01] <mcm75> I've just upgraded and now my dual head setup is broken
[18:01] <Alpo\> irc.ubuntu.com, irg.gnu.org and *.freenode.net are all connected
[18:01] <Tom_Davis> silici0: this IS civilized
[18:01] <noglorp> Gamer Mouse HD7600L
[18:01] <mcm75> dvi-0 and vga-0 both think they are both monitors
[18:01] <jernst> noglorp: try that :
[18:01] <outofthemadness> hey all. I think compiz broke in my update from 8.04 to 8.10 Does anyone know how I might fix it?
[18:01] <n8tuser> evan__-> its your choice, stop it or continue waiting..
[18:02] <jernst> Go at a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1), and write
[18:02] <jernst> sudo ln -sf /dev/psaux /dev/mouse
[18:02] <Soopa> I need to install Vista on this PC, which currently has Ubuntu Hardy on it... I want to install Vista to a different hard drive than the one Ubuntu is on.  Does anyone know of a tutorial on how to do this?
[18:02] <silici0> Tom_Davis: not for me ! ;P
[18:02] <koruptid> Maeva, try the ubuntuforums..... so far there hasn't been anyone on here with familiarity in sound problems
[18:02] <noglorp> then reboot or just restart X?
[18:02] <jernst> noglorp: restart x
[18:02] <noglorp> k, thanks, I'll be back if it doesn't work :D
[18:02] <Pici> Soopa: Install vista then use the following to re-install grub.
[18:03] <Pici> !grub > Soopa
[18:03] <DasEi> Appi:back to your example it would be : gksu gedit /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite/settings.py.
[18:03] <n8tuser> Soopa-> remove the hard disk with ubuntu, then install vista, then add the ubuntu hard disk later and modify menu.lst to add vista?
[18:03] <Soopa> n8tuser: that's kind of what I had in mind, yeah...
[18:03] <n8tuser> Soopa-> go for it
[18:04] <TwoD> Evening all! I'm about to install Intrepid instead of Hardy. I'm NOT going to do an upgrade (I want to make some changes etc...), so right now I'm looking at backup options, but also if I should switch to say JFS instead of Ext3. What's your opinions on filesystems and backups?
[18:04] <Pici> DasEi: Please don't suggest that, there is no reason to be using sudo to modify files within the user's own home directory.
[18:04] <koruptid> Pici, is there anyone that comes on here who is an audio specialist....? the problem I'm having is preventing me from communicating with the office and is likely to cause me to switch back to vista... which I really don't want to do
[18:04] <lolnoob> Never mind just find a another distro
[18:04] <romes1> how to use proxy in transmission???/
[18:04] <nog_lorp> nope
[18:04] <Soopa> n8tuser: the problem is that the Ubuntu drive is SATA and the Vista one will be IDE
[18:04] <norbert> Can someone help me get some advice on how to set up a dual screen, so I do have a bigger desktop, but can fullscreen and maximize windows on 1? I think it means having seperate xservers, I'm not sure. Does someone know whether it is possible and if so how?
[18:04] <Appi> DasEi: Thanks a lot, I am really sorry took a long time to understand, once again Thanks a lot
[18:04] <unique_> can some one help me with connecting to a wep nework?
[18:04] <nog_lorp> jernst:I have a wireless keyboard+mouse also, but I don't want to use the mouse anymore. could that complicate things?
[18:04] <Soopa> so I'm not sure if my motherboard will have problems with that...
[18:04] <DasEi> Pici: he/her said it wasn't possible to save the file after changing it
[18:04] <Pici> koruptid: I personally am not, you can check out the forums while waiting for someone to help here.
[18:04] <lorenzo_> 7list
[18:05] <n8tuser> Soopa-> i dont have SATA drives, so i dont know what issues will prop up
[18:05] <ricard> bona tarda (i humida)
[18:05] <Pici> DasEi: I have him a command to chown all files in /home/$USER
[18:05] <gangsterlicious> TwoD: what's "appealing features" about JFS you are considering over ext3?
[18:05] <Soopa> :-(  oh well, I guess I'll just go for it
[18:05] <Soopa> thanks!
[18:05] <koruptid> Pici, done that already..... thread has had zero responses and five other similar threads have gone similarly unanswered
[18:05] <jernst> nog_lorp: try with only the new mouse, if it works that's your problem
[18:05] <Pici> koruptid: What sound card do you have?
[18:06] <subone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft says "Thankfully, getting DRI to work with recent hardware is usually just a configuration issue.", but I don't see any other link... can someone assist me getting DRI working?
[18:06] <koruptid> Pici, RealTek STAC9227 with Intel HD Audio
[18:06] <Annabelle> I'm stuck. My Sony VAIO laptop won't get past the 'configuring hardware' stage at 94% installing the standard desktop ubuntu 8.10 iso, even when i'm installing from the booted LiveCD environment - any ideas?
[18:06] <roffe> I can only see 2 seconds of youtube-videos..
[18:06] <nog_lorp> jernst: old mouse and keyboard are integrated >< is there some accessibility feature for a software keyboard?
[18:06] <Annabelle> Is there a way to override the scan or check?
[18:06] <Pici> koruptid: Is this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[18:06] <n8tuser> koruptid-> you can install virtualbox and put xp as guest on it, ubuntu as host
[18:06] <silici0> Im using crontab to run rsync on 3 in 3 hours, but just rsyncing to a usb external HD, looking my process the mount ntfs to run my external HD uses more than 30% of my CPU
[18:06] <koruptid> Pici, fresh install
[18:07] <unique_> no one?
[18:07] <Pici> koruptid: The same user that was created in the install or a new one?
[18:07] <chadeldridge> I am starting to get really disgruntled with multimonitor in 8.10 using the 177 drivers, can someone please help before i totally explode ?
[18:07] <jernst> nog_lorp: I guess so but that'll take too much time, just try to remove your keyboard and restart X
[18:07] <koruptid> Pici, same user
[18:07] <TwoD> gangsterlicious, mostly performance. I read this comparison: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html (Don't know if it still applies today considering it's from 2004) and I recently read in a magazine that JFS was faster than ext3 but the differences in features were only minor. Don't think I'll miss any features from ext3.
[18:07] <nog_lorp> Ill be back in a bit
[18:07] <jernst> nog_lorp: if the mous works in gdm you'll know for sure
[18:07] <Guest5181> hi everybody
[18:07] <Tundrayeti312> subone: What is your video card?
[18:07] <subone> Tundrayeti312:  ati prop driver
[18:07] <koruptid> Pici, 8.10RC media.... all updates
[18:07] <Pici> koruptid: Is your user in the audio group?
[18:07] <roffe> I get 2 seconds of youtube-videos.. is there a solution?
[18:08] <n8tuser> chadeldridge-> once you get it working can you kindly write a tutorial to share your knowhow? i was never able to get a multimonitor working,
[18:08] <DasEi> Pici: (I don't wanna argue, muharr) , it was :  /home/srinivasa/django-projects/mysite/settings.py.
[18:08] <Tundrayeti312> subone: So you have the restricted driver installed? does glxinfo |grep rendering return yes?
[18:08] <koruptid> Pici, not sure... however I can confirm that audio itself works and the mic functions.... it just functions at a super low volume
[18:08] <amikrop> Hello. After upgrade to Intrepid, I don't have sound for Youtube videos.
 Maybe it is an issue with the flash.
 Actually, I can remember I disconnected from the Internet after the downloads of the new packages for the upgrade, were finished.
 And when it started installing these packages, the flash plugin needed an Internet connection, which it didn't have.
 And it said it failed to install.
[18:08] <FloodBot3> amikrop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <chadeldridge> n8tuser:  i have been keeping notes for days now, its a total step backwards imo, 8,04 just worked and now the new drivers are a real pile
[18:08] <subone> Tundrayeti312: no sir
[18:08] <mikmorg2> could someone tell me how to install i386 libraries on x86_64 machines?
[18:09] <Appi> Pici: Thanks a lot I got it how to modify the existing one through gksu gedit command
[18:09] <Guest5181> hi, how to start gnome in term8?
[18:09] <mikmorg2> do i have to download the deb, explode it manually, and copy the files into /usr/lib or something?
[18:09] <mikmorg2> seems like there should be a much easier way
[18:09] <Guest5181> hi, how to start gnome in term8?
[18:09] <Pici> Appi: I strongly suggest not doing that, you will create permissions problems if you are editing files using sudo within your home directory.
[18:09] <orgthingy> how can i enlarge gnome-panel icons' size?
[18:09] <The_Dr> Ummmmm where is displayconfig-gtk in intrepid?????????????????????
[18:10] <n8tuser> chadeldridge-> i was never able to make it work at all...am glad you even got it working..so maybe back to 8.04..lest there is something special on 8.10 in which if you installed openvz, you can have 8.10 as one of the guest
[18:10] <cmdrtebok> hey can someone give me a hand with the partition manager... I'm trying to put kubuntu 8.10 fresh but the Guided just wants to resize the ubuntu partition into 2 new ones but id like to format the ubuntu partition... So I went to manual and clicked the ext1 partition, went to edit partition, chose ext3  instead of "do not use this partition" and clicked the format check box but it won't work unless i chose a mount point... should I chose
[18:10] <Tundrayeti312> subone: I believe you can select to use the proprietary driver from hardware manager, in system->admin
[18:10] <Appi> Pici: I will take your suggestion
[18:10] <koruptid> Pici, maybe you can help me with a different issue.... my keyring is no longer automatically allowing network manager access to the default keyring and I can't find anywhere to fix it
[18:10] <roffe> Does anyone know why I can't see more than 2 seconds of flash-videos?
[18:10] <subone> Tundrayeti312: well... its already selected
[18:10] <subone> Tundrayeti312: im running on that driver
[18:10] <Guest5181> how the hell start gnome in terminal 8??!!
[18:10] <n8tuser> chadeldridge-> i meant install openvz then 8.10 as guest, and 8.04 as another guest..hows that?
[18:10] <Tundrayeti312> subone: but no direct rendering?
[18:10] <subone> no
[18:11] <norbert> Can someone help me get some advice on how to set up a dual screen, so I do have a bigger desktop, but can fullscreen and maximize windows on 1? I think it means having seperate xservers, I'm not sure. Does someone know whether it is possible and if so how?
[18:11] <XB23> hey guys, is there a way to show a custom motd
[18:11] <n8tuser> Guest48073-> hell  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:11] <XB23> per user who logs in?>
[18:11] <Pici> koruptid: Check alsamixer (in a terminal) for your sound issue, make sure that the volume is up on all relevant playback channels.
[18:11] <subone> Tundrayeti312: but this page says "Thankfully, getting DRI to work with recent hardware is usually just a configuration issue." so...
[18:11] <koruptid> Guest5181, could you rephrase the question?
[18:11] <TwoD> norbert, do you have an nvidia card?
[18:11] <norbert> yes
[18:11] <mker> Anyone know if Introversion Softwares games (Uplink, Darwinia, DEFCON, Multiwinia) work in Ubuntu 8.10 AMD64?
[18:11] <MagicPee> could use some help !
[18:11] <koruptid> Pici, tried that... no dice
[18:11] <MagicPee> i want to extract some files to /opt
[18:11] <norbert> mvidia 7900 GTS top
[18:11] <TwoD> norbert, have you tried the nvidia-settings program?
[18:11] <kierank> Hello, I just tried upgrading to 8.10 on x64 with Wubi from 8.04 and the upgrade prog. decided to delete every package
[18:11] <noglorp> jernst: thanks for your help
[18:11] <masterkorp> magicpee
[18:11] <jernst> noglorp: does it work now ?
[18:11] <noglorp> if I run with the keyboard unplugged
[18:12] <jafobuntu> hi! how do I remove mozilla totem plugin?? anyone please
[18:12] <noglorp> then plug in after start
[18:12] <noglorp> it works
[18:12] <noglorp> both mice even work
[18:12] <noglorp> ><
[18:12] <FloodBot3> noglorp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <johannes_> #berlin
[18:12] <jburd> I've burned a CD of the Ubuntu Intrepid desktop and it works on my desktop but shows up as a blank disc on my notebook.  What is the problem?  :-\
[18:12] <MagicPee> yes masterkopt ?
[18:12] <johannes_> help
[18:12] <noglorp> need to figure out how to get it to work with multiple mice now
[18:12] <MagicPee> you have an answer ?
[18:12] <jernst> noglorp: that's funny, you might be able to have both mice working without unplugging by tweaking your xorg.conf
[18:12] <norbert> twod I'm not a wizz kid, and I'm planning to move to 8.10 tomorrow, I have someone over that helps.. but hearing how it's done will help, so we know what to look for
[18:12] <noglorp> k
[18:12] <jburd> I've burned the disc at 16x
[18:12] <masterkorp> tell me more about your problem
[18:12] <norbert> can you explain it, in general?
[18:12] <MagicPee> ok thanks
[18:12] <norbert> and does it work well?
[18:12] <Tundrayeti312> subone: normally the solution is just getting the restricted driver, idk how to help further sorry
[18:13] <jernst> noglorp:  you need to know what device correspond to each mouse
[18:13] <Ashwin> i want to set postfix with LDAP on Ubuntu any howto
[18:13] <E-XtraCt> There is Antivirus to linux ?
[18:13] <MagicPee> i want to extract my xampp
[18:13] <Guest5181> clam av
[18:13] <poh> Is there a way to ensure apt doesn't modify certain files, my xorg.conf keeps getting trashed.
[18:13] <MagicPee> and on the site it says i need to extract to /opt
[18:13] <Annabelle> I'm stuck. My Sony VAIO laptop won't get past the 'configuring hardware' stage at 94% installing the standard desktop ubuntu 8.10 iso, even when i'm installing from the booted LiveCD environment - any ideas?
[18:13] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: iv seen that before aswell, did u burn it on the desktop or the laptop?
[18:13] <Guest5181> 'kay, bye then
[18:13] <csilk> poh what are you installing to trash the xorg conf?
[18:13] <jburd> B3z3rk3r: Burning fails on the notebook.  I burned it on the desktop.
[18:13] <masterkorp> xampp?
[18:13] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> is the box connected to the internet? does it have an ip address?
[18:13] <paco_the_bot> yo
[18:13] <MagicPee> yes xampp apache server and stuff
[18:13] <noglorp> like /dev/ device?
[18:13] <cmdrtebok> so any ideas on what i should set the "mount point" as on the partition manager?
[18:14] <Annabelle> n8tuser: Nope - but can be.
[18:14] <paco_the_bot> how do i remove the beeping noise?
[18:14] <jernst> noglorp: I've sent a patch for the usb ids database so that your mouse will show the right model when you type lsusb next time
[18:14] <poh> csilk: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:14] <jernst> noglorp: yes
[18:14] <jburd> The drive is able to read other CDs pretty well.
[18:14] <amikrop> Hello. After upgrade to Intrepid, I don't have sound for Youtube videos. Maybe it is an issue with the flash. Actually, I can remember I disconnected from the Internet after the downloads of the new packages for the upgrade, were finished. And when it started installing these packages, the flash plugin needed an Internet connection, which it didn't have. And it said it failed to install. Any help, please?
[18:14] <MagicPee> Go to a Linux shell and login as the system administrator root: su Extract the downloaded archive file to /opt: tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.8a.tar.gz -C /opt Warning: Please use only this command to install XAMPP. DON'T use any Microsoft Windows tools to extract the archive, it won't work.
[18:14] <masterkorp> lets talk in private
[18:14] <MagicPee> ok
[18:14] <paco_the_bot> hey any idea's how too remove the beeping noise?
[18:14] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> it may be trying to connect to download a package, and it is just slow..as the servers now are really busy..
[18:14] <csilk> poh oh right, yeah that might change the xorg conf, dont think there is alot you can do about that
[18:14] <noglorp> cool
[18:14] <csilk> poh,  just backup it up
[18:14] <lucas_> people cant use usb on virtual box... ive tried but cant do it, vbox doesnt detects anything that is attached to the usb port at all
[18:14] <noglorp> so it will be fixed to the usb slot
[18:14] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: have found that with my desktop/laptop setup as well..
[18:15] <noglorp> right
[18:15] <vkrolow>  /join
[18:15] <jburd> B3z3rk3r: What did you do to solve it?
[18:15] <poh> csilk: ok that was the plan.  Thank you
[18:15] <Annabelle> n8tuser:  I've left it for 8 hours today and no luck. The clock still changes with the time but the rest of the desktop crashes/freezes- do i need to connect online first then?
[18:15] <jburd> B3z3rk3r: I'm downloading the DVD and hoping the DVD boots.
[18:15] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: i find if i buy the single high-quality cds/dvds it seems to work better
[18:15] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> yeah that would be a good idea, to have an internet connectivity during install
[18:15] <jburd> B3z3rk3r: Oh.
[18:15] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: rather than the bulk packs i mean
[18:15] <Annabelle> n8tuser:  I mean I've not plugged in my wifi adapter yet as just wanted to get it up and running
[18:15] <Triina> how can i change the server??
[18:15] <foo_> I'm working to customize my desktop with a combination Emerald/GTK2 theme... I have the emerald window theme working, but when I install the gtk2 theme in 'Appearance', I get the message: "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed."
[18:15] <noglorp> so I'm guessing Bus 002 Device 003 corresponds to /dev/usbdev2.3_ep***?
[18:15] <subone> Tundrayeti312: so any idea how to set that up? idk if thats the issue but WoW is running at like .2fps
[18:15] <csilk> poh sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.cong.BACKUP    just incase you didn't know
[18:16] <csilk> *conf
[18:16] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: otherwise, using diff programs to burn can have an affect too
[18:16] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> you are installing from a cdrom?
[18:16] <Ab3L> hello
[18:16] <Tundrayeti312> subone: If you don't have direct rendinger, WoW won't be running at all
[18:16] <sceo> n8tuser outbackwifi; ok who wants to hear something CRAAAAZY?  Everything works in Firefox IF I ENABLE TOR.  still can't do stuff from the command line, like nslookup - is that a hint at all?!
[18:16] <subone> Tundrayeti312: it runs
[18:16] <B3z3rk3r> jburd: i find Nero 8 works well for my needs, tho without knowing what hardware setup u have i really couldnt say what will/wont work for you
[18:16] <poh> csilk: thanks again, I've got it backed up
[18:16] <subone> its just really slow i cant even accept the tos
[18:17] <Annabelle> n8tuser:  ok thanks- I'll give it a go. I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=915286&highlight=configuring+hardware about the 94% install but I can't access my bios now, it's either 'no operating system found' or just boots the livecd; any of the overrid 'noapi' options fix it?
[18:17] <tesseracter> any idea why when i go to places:home folder it opens RHYTHMBOX!?
[18:17] <XB23> can bash.rc be set so the user cannot edit/read or delete it?
[18:17] <subone> i had this working on a previous install
[18:17] <foo_> This is in 8.10 Intrepid... and I'm noticing the two single quotes and thinking it doesn't even know which engine it needs; the theme creator does not specify an engine that the theme seems to require, and I have the gtk2-engines package installed, as well as the pixmap engine.
[18:17] <Tundrayeti312> subone: There is a registy edit that will help, also did you set WoW to use OpenGL?
[18:17] <subone> yep
[18:17] <Annabelle> n8tuser: yep,installing both from the livecd desktop standard 8.10 - either fresh from the install boot menu or booting the live cd and installing from there
[18:17] <n8tuser> sceo-> you have a weird setup, dont know what makes it work, answer my previous question 2.1 and 2.4 and 2.99 as gateways?
[18:17] <subone> Tundrayeti312: I may be missing something... take a look http://pastebin.com/d10986980
[18:17] <jochem__> Hi, How can i replace nautilus with thunar?
[18:17] <amikrop> Hello. After upgrade to Intrepid, I don't have sound for Youtube videos. Maybe it is an issue with the flash. Actually, I can remember I disconnected from the Internet after the downloads of the new packages for the upgrade, were finished. And when it started installing these packages, the flash plugin needed an Internet connection, which it didn't have. And it said it failed to install. Any help, please?
[18:18] <debeee> Anyone have wireless working on an eeePC on Intrpid. It is an AR242X wifi chip...
[18:18] <jltorrente> god... how long is the moving and resizing of a partition supposed to last?
[18:18] <csilk> amigrave,  re-install the flash plugin
[18:18] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> try not to check off auto update box, perhaps it was trying to connect to the internet and it cant since you dont have a nic
[18:18] <Tundrayeti312> subone: I don't see -> SET gxApi "opengl"
[18:18] <alpro> hi guys...
[18:19] <Tundrayeti312> subone: oops nvm
[18:19] <death_> Hello, can someone help me enable "Visual effect" on ubuntu 8.10 for an ATI 1950 Pro (512mb) ? I've heard that it is now possible to enable but it doesn't allow me to.
[18:19] <Annabelle> n8tuser:  I never saw an auto update box :( I'll try again using some of the 'noapi' etc options and when online in the cdrom environ.
[18:19] <ThipThip> I need some serious help with grub.  I have a hard drive that's too big for my (laptop) BIOS at 250GB.  Upon installing ubuntu, I got grub error 18.  Then, following instructions from the forums, I installed again, this time partitioning the first 10MB as /boot.  Now, I get kernel panic "unable to mount root"
[18:19] <Tundrayeti312> subone: idk, you could see if lower res helps
[18:20] <twisted`> for those interested, to answer my own question (language per user), add LANG="en_US.UTF-8" to the users .bash_profile
[18:20] <alpro> can anybody tell me what the source of the "real" xchat is? I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and would like ot use xchat but unfortunately there is only the "gnome xchat" called more poor version available in synaptics. I remember from older versions though that there were always two different versions to select.
[18:20] <foo_> Does anyone have experience with receiving this message in 'Appearance' preferences?: "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed."
[18:20] <Tundrayeti312> subone: Did you make the registry edit?
[18:20] <amikrop> Please, help me.
[18:20] <amikrop> Hello. After upgrade to Intrepid, I don't have sound for Youtube videos. Maybe it is an issue with the flash. Actually, I can remember I disconnected from the Internet after the downloads of the new packages for the upgrade, were finished. And when it started installing these packages, the flash plugin needed an Internet connection, which it didn't have. And it said it failed to install. Any help, please?
[18:20] <subone> Tundrayeti312: no, as i said this was working fine on a previous install... yes i did the registry thing
[18:20] <alpro> the gnome xchat version Im using now doesnt even have a sidebar for userlist
[18:20] <csilk> amikrop,  re-install the flash plugin
[18:20] <death_> alpro:  I
[18:20] <Tundrayeti312> subone: HH?
[18:21] <kansan> if a file is set as nobody:nogroup ... can i simply create a new group named these things and add users to it?  so they can access it?  i dont see the group nogroup listed in ubuntu's users & groups UI
[18:21] <subone> Tundrayeti312: yes
[18:21] <amikrop> csilk: I already did that, with no success.
[18:21] <mikmorg2> Could someone tell me how I can install libstdc++-dev 32-bit on an x86_64?
[18:21] <Annabelle> n8tuser:  Just thinking - would the alternative cd work better? I only tried this, not sure of the alt one.
[18:21] <csilk> amikrop, did you pirge the first installation?
[18:21] <csilk> **purge
[18:21] <amikrop> csilk: yes
[18:21] <bluefox83> ok, i can not get intrepid to load up without holding a key
[18:21] <csilk> hmmm
[18:21] <alpro> yes death_?
[18:21] <death_> alpro:  I'm using the gnome-xchant I didn't know there was another/better? version
[18:21] <n8tuser> Annabelle-> give it a try, it wont hurt
[18:21] <Tundrayeti312> subone: What wine version do you have now?
[18:21] <amikrop> csilk: I think it is about Flash 9 and Flash 10, and Pulse Audio.
[18:21] <void___> Hey guys! What are default parameters in grub.conf for Ubuntu?
[18:21] <macvr> hi all... how do i  identify what mother board my laptop has?
[18:21] <Annabelle> Will do. Thanks for advice, gonna be a long morning tomorrow I feel :)
[18:22] <subone> Tundrayeti312:  1.0
[18:22]  * outbackwifi alternate != alternative
[18:22] <alpro> death_ there was a version with the real Xchat logo in the top left corner...
[18:22] <pasteeater> how can i find out max dvd burn speed of my dev-rom in command-line?
[18:22] <cmdrtebok> can someone helpme with gparted? im trying to over write my ubuntu partition... what should i chose as my mount point? is "/" ok?
[18:22] <pasteeater> s/dev-rom/dvd-rom
[18:22] <GruSum> alpro - u can turn the sidebar off and on with F9 or under View on the menu in the version I am using
[18:22] <Tundrayeti312> subone: I'm afraid to upgrade now... :p
[18:22] <outbackwifi> pasteeater: with cdparanoia?
[18:22] <macvr>  hi all... how do i  identify what mother board my laptop has?
[18:22] <amikrop> csilk: Also, I don't have sound in Skype.
[18:23] <subone> Tundrayeti312: doh... the prop drivers arent installed... this is starting to piss me off... everytime ubuntu does an update it uninstalls my drivers wtf
[18:23] <alpro> GruSum:  I mean the sidebar for the userlist
[18:23] <esojep> anyone here have troubles with ATI cards on Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:23] <alpro> its not there
[18:23] <ThipThip> Anybody know anything bout  kernel panic "unable to mount root" ?
[18:23] <twisted`> macvr: lspci, should give clues
[18:23] <amikrop> csilk: Did they change something in 8.10 (I mean, ALSA, pulse audio, and such stuff)?
[18:23] <outbackwifi> macvr: lshw
[18:23] <csilk> esojep, mine worked with no problems
[18:23] <twisted`> macvr: then u got the chipset and maybe some other components which is only for your board
[18:23] <csilk> amikrop, pretty sure 8.10 uses alsa as default
[18:23] <outbackwifi> amikrop: did you read the changelogs?
[18:23] <amikrop> outbackwifi: yes
[18:23] <Tundrayeti312> subone: ah, yeah that would do it
[18:23] <erle-> is there a intrepid bootable usb stick?
[18:24] <amikrop> outbackwifi: why do you ask that, though?
[18:24] <esojep> csilk my ati xpress 1100 don't works on ubuntu 8.10 instalation
[18:24] <void___> Can somebody plz tell me the the default kernel parameters in grub.conf?
[18:24] <alpro> GruSum:
[18:24] <subone> sorry brb
[18:24] <alpro> http://fakap.net/drop/files/cwirc.png
[18:24] <outbackwifi> amikrop: cos you asked if they changed anything and that info would be in the changelog
[18:24] <profanephobia> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:24] <csilk> esojep, I only have expereince with the high definition ati cards, sorry
[18:24] <Haris_> Hello people
[18:25] <Haris_> How do I clear apt's cache?
[18:25] <esojep> csilk ok
[18:25] <outbackwifi> Haris_: apt-clean?
[18:25] <DasEi> Haris_:sudo  apt-get clean
[18:25] <death_> argh, this stupid pulseaudio bug is driving me crazy :S why the f***ck if I remove it  it has to remove ubuntu-desktop can't seem to find a way arround this stupid bug.
[18:25] <jltorrente> it's taking like 2 hours to resize a 80GB into 2 40GB partitions
[18:25] <erisco> I tried to install the alternate amd64 ubuntu from USB but despite the fact I followed the steps exactly the installer complained that the CDROM was not valid
[18:25] <macvr> outbackwifi: core
[18:25] <macvr>        description: Motherboard
[18:25] <macvr>        physical id: 0
[18:25] <macvr>  am i looking in the right place?
[18:25] <erisco> any ideas?
[18:25] <FloodBot3> macvr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <outbackwifi> death_: ubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage
[18:26] <vixey> !ibex
[18:26] <s0nix> hi all, i need to create a repository, can i support debian and ubuntu packages in the same repository ? Which software could i use ?
[18:26] <GarfIIeld> How to set static ip in 8.10?
[18:26] <amikrop> OK, it is really urgent.
[18:26] <sirMajid> hi guys
[18:26] <amikrop> I don't have sound in Flash, not Skype.
[18:26] <outofthemadness> hey all. I think compiz broke in my update from 8.04 to 8.10 Does anyone know how I might fix it? I'm using an integrated graphics card(Intel 945GM/GMS I think) on my Toshiba laptop
[18:27] <amikrop> * nor
[18:27] <kristof> why can't I find/download my nvidia driver in 8.10?
[18:27] <ThipThip> I really need some grub error 18 help.
[18:27] <sirMajid> What's the best Code Editor for c++ in ubuntu?
[18:27] <chadeldridge> can someone please help with with multiple monitors in 8.10 using nvidia 177.80
[18:27] <subone> sirMajid: gedit
[18:27] <outbackwifi> sirMajid: anjuta
[18:27] <alpro> can anybody tell me what the source of the "real" xchat is? I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and would like ot use xchat but unfortunately there is only the "gnome xchat" called more poor version available in synaptics. I remember from older versions though that there were always two different versions to select.
[18:27] <sirMajid> subone, gedit is not a good editor
[18:27] <Slart> !best | sirMajid
[18:27] <Slart> sirMajid: personally I prefer jedit or scite
[18:27] <death_> outbackwifi: I didn't know that, but when I remove it gnome starts acting all weird and x wont run at startup, the user login stops working too
[18:27] <subone> alpro: there should be the regular xchat in the repos, i'm using it, gxchat is crap
[18:27] <sirMajid> subone, are they as good as eclipse for java?
[18:28] <subone> sirMajid: it's just a syntax hiliting text editor with plugins
[18:28] <chadeldridge> someone please help with nvidia dual monitor setup
[18:28] <macvr> outbackwifi: core  description: Motherboard  physical id: 0   >>>am i looking in the right place? where will the motherboard name be listed?
[18:28] <Maeva> cedric@cedric-desktop:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [NVidia]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia  HDA NVidia at 0xfd778000 irq --> why don't I hear any sound ?
[18:28] <outbackwifi> sirMajid: of course if you were a purist, youd go with vi
[18:28] <Tetracomm> I can't download a .deb file that I uploaded to my server, is it necessary to add a mimetype definition to download .deb files?
[18:29] <Kalin> siema
[18:29] <death_> someone still uses vi in this time xD
[18:29] <outbackwifi> macvr: somewhere there
[18:29]  * outbackwifi does all the time
[18:29] <cousteau> i used vi this morning
[18:29] <sirMajid> I need something as strong as eclipse but for c++
[18:29] <hubar> question, my hotkeys (on lenovo t61) stopped working after upgrade. (Hotkey like Volumn Control) Hellp???
[18:29] <cousteau> i like SciTE
[18:29] <vega> i don't understand "still uses vi"
[18:29] <csilk> sirMajid, eclipse has a C++ plugin, or you could try netbaens
[18:29] <rebe> lllllgf
[18:29] <outbackwifi> sirMajid: is that a ubuntu support question?
[18:29] <GarfIIeld> How to set static ip? Tried but then I can't press ok and save the settings.
[18:29] <outofthemadness> !patience
[18:29] <csilk> sirMajid, *netbeans
[18:29] <macvr> outbackwifi:  Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub <<<< is this the motherboard name?
[18:30] <outbackwifi> macvr: they are all chipsets
[18:30] <subone> sirMajid: AFAIK you can use Eclipse for C++, or you could try KDevelop
[18:30] <vega> sirMajid: eclipse CDT ?
[18:30] <sirMajid> outbackwifi, well people are usually developers here
[18:30] <death_> I think  last I used vi like 10 years ago with woody or something jaja
[18:30] <csilk> GarfIIeld, where do you want the static ip, you lan?
[18:30] <csilk> **your
[18:30]  * jZed hateses kde 4.1
[18:30] <macvr> outbackwifi:  oops
[18:30] <noglorp> jernst you still here
[18:30] <Tundrayeti312> sirMajid: nvr used it but i hear anjuta is also good
[18:30] <hubar> question, my hotkeys (on lenovo t61) stopped working after upgrade. (Hotkey like Volumn Control) Help???
[18:30] <sirMajid> tnx I'll try them
[18:30] <outbackwifi> sirMajid: you can take that to ubuntu-offtopic
[18:30] <GarfIIeld> csilk, to connect to my xbox on eth0.
[18:31] <erry> hello
[18:31] <sirMajid> outbackwifi, ok
[18:31] <Tundrayeti312> hubar: Verify your keyboard setting in system->prefrences->keyboard?
[18:31] <outofthemadness> macvr: were you talking to me? about the chipsets, I mean
[18:31] <hahalla> when running the ubuntu cd,there no such option format disk and install ubuntu.. would like to remove windows, but all if offers is to install it next to windows, could any1 give me any directions to my problem?
[18:31] <erry> a friend of mine installed ubuntu 8.04 inside widnows and then updated it and now it wont work. or something
[18:31] <Az> hubar system -> prefences -> keyboard shortcuts
[18:31] <profanephobia_> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:31] <Az> and just reassign
[18:31] <chadeldridge> WTB a rollback to 8.04 option .. lol
[18:31] <romes1> is there any option to use proxy server in transmission??????????
[18:32] <Appi> hi how should i create a database file something like data.db
[18:32] <bluefox83> when i start my machine, and select intrepid in the menu, it goes to the screen with the loading bar, but i have to hold in a key for it to load, otherwise it just sits there forever, as though waiting for me to tell it that it's ok to load...also if i don't keep holding the key it wont finish loading either...is there a way to fix that?
[18:32] <azhar27> Hi, I have currently assigned 20 GB to Ubuntu, can i convert my NTFS partition to Ext3, will it be extension of my 20GB ext3 or will i have another drive.
[18:32] <Az> romes use something like deluge for morew options
[18:32] <koruptid> does anyone know how to manage the keyring?
[18:33] <macvr> outbackwifi: s, i said oops since i was confusing myself with something else >>> my lshw output>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65331/ <<< could u check this out and tell me which is my motherboard?
[18:33] <ThipThip> Can anybody help with issues related to grub error 18?
[18:33] <jZed> [azhar27] it will be a drive you can mount and treat like a directory
[18:33] <csilk> macd, I wasn't aware that any operating system could tell you the make and model of your motherboard?
[18:33] <Appi> does anyone know to save the create database file and save it something like data.db
[18:33] <profanephobia_> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:34] <Maeva> here I pasted what I get when I type lspci in the console http://paste.ubuntu.com/65332/   --> why don't I hear any sound ?
[18:34] <victorb> hello, could anyone help me with ktouch, bepo-fr keyboard? Nobody on their channel...
[18:34] <macd> csilk, not that it was directed at me, but I'm not aware of any either ;P
[18:34] <hubar> Az: Do I need to become root?
[18:34] <outbackwifi> macvr: if i didnt know better id say its an 82801
[18:34] <azhar27> jZed, can i use that partition to install softwares, i mean will it be integrated to my home directory. Is there a solution if i want it be integrated.
[18:35] <bluefox83> starting to think there are more people here asking questions than are able to answer today...
[18:35] <csilk> macd, probably made a tab-complete error lol
[18:35] <illnath> hi i have a problem with my sound
[18:35] <rschleetz> hi, can anyone help me with compiling gmp using a different dynamic linker? I am trying to build gmp libs linked against /toolchain/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 using environment vars, but they all end up linked against my system dynamic linker...
[18:35] <illnath> i'm using the last version with lts from the site
[18:35] <jZed> yes you can treat it like a regular directory and put software or data there
[18:35] <Az> no just open that up and try and reassign the hotkeys
[18:36] <velizarov_> hello. who network manager 0.7 not work in 8.10?
[18:36] <profanephobia_> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:36] <macvr> outbackwifi: but that  82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller <<< is this the motherbard? seeems like an audio... how did u get the number?
[18:36] <death_> outbackwifi: so why does ubuntu has to come with this slightly uncompatible pulseaudio, I was better off dealing with alsa(which it was a nightmare sometimes) I believe it shouldn't come as default
[18:37] <outofthemadness> hey all. I think compiz broke in my update from 8.04 to 8.10 Does anyone know how I might fix it? My desktop hangs when I log in. I can access my circular applications menu and through that, I can start the panel and other stuff. Removing compiz and reinstallign it does nothing
[18:37] <gilan> hi
[18:37] <vixey> hellloo
[18:37] <azhar27> jZed, Thanks a lot.
[18:37] <AlexS1> hello
[18:37] <macvr> vixey: !hi
[18:37] <hubar> Az: it works! Thanks a lot :D
[18:38] <AlexS1> name aa
[18:38] <sx66|eee|ppc> yoyo
[18:38] <alpro> hi, does anybody know where to enter "identd" in xchat?
[18:38] <emorris> I keep getting emails from cron which say "/etc/cron.daily/debtags: 4: debtags: not found; run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/debtags exited with return code 127" <-- any idea what this means/what I should do about it?
[18:38] <tesseracter> i have a very vanilla ubuntu install, but when i go to places:home folder it opens RHYTHMBOX!? strange right?
[18:38] <velizarov_> hello. who network manager 0.7 not work in 8.10?
[18:39] <magnetron> alpro→ identd is a standalone service
[18:39] <bluefox83> alpro, xchat doesn't have that option because linux doesn't use an identd server, thats a windows thing
[18:39] <roffe> I can only watch flash-videos for 2 seconds
[18:39] <bluefox83> you CAN install one, but there's really not much point O.o
[18:39] <Bodsda> hi, i have my panels both at the top of my screen, with the {applications, places, system} bar at the top and the bar that shows open programs beneath it, sometimes when i log on i find they have switched places. not a major issue but a bit irritating, im running intrepid but this also happened on hardy
[18:39] <alpro> i need it for connecting to my shroudBNC. any suggestions to do this magnetron bluefox83 ?
[18:39] <profanephobia_> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:39] <Alexander-S> how to register in IRC?
[18:39] <magnetron> alpro→ install the separate identd
[18:40] <alpro> where can I find it?
[18:40] <magnetron> !register | Alexander-S
[18:40] <Az> hubar no probs
[18:40] <Acedip> Hi there.
[18:40] <Acedip> i have ubuntu hardy and i want to launch transmission automatically on boot.But when i try to do that, i cant. although the automatic thing work fine with other whatever application..
[18:40] <Tom_Davis> acedip: transmission of what to whom?
[18:40] <DM_101> How can you replace nautilus with thunar, already looked in System>Preferences>Prefered applications?
[18:40] <alexander_s> like that, i think
[18:41] <Az> acedip system -> preferences -> sessions
[18:41] <magnetron> alpro→ you have douzens of different identd servers to choose from in the ubuntu package list, use synaptic to install one of them
[18:41] <Bodsda> Acedip, your trying to use the System--> preferences--> Sessions   yes?
[18:41] <Acedip> the torrent client - transmission
[18:41] <Bodsda> Tom_Davis, the torrent program is called transmission
[18:41] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[18:41] <roffe> Can someone help me in how to make youtube-videos last more than 2 seconds?
[18:41] <Tom_Davis> ah
[18:41] <macvr> Tom_Davis: transmission torrent program!
[18:41] <gilan> ubuntu best distro everseen
[18:41] <Tom_Davis> my bad
[18:41] <Acedip> bodsda :yes
[18:41] <alpro> thanks magnetron. after installing it, I will have to  configure my identd in that prog or in xchat?
[18:42] <Bodsda> Acedip, what command are you using?
[18:42] <matteo_> hi all, I want to set up the size and the position on the screen of the windows that i open from terminal, witch commands i have to type?
[18:42] <magnetron> alpro→ they are totally separate from x-chat. x-chat has nothing to do with your identd
[18:43] <alpro> magnetron, I cant find nothing by searching for "identd"
[18:43] <alpro> im using 8.10
[18:43] <profanephobia_> im trying to use network manager to connect to the internet using my lg cu915. when i try to connect everything works fine it talks to the modem authenticates recieves an ip and locates DNS servers but nothing shows me actually being connected to the internet
[18:43] <magnetron> alpro→ how do you search for "identd"?
[18:43] <alpro> in synaptics packent manager magnetron
[18:43] <subone> is there any way i can get ubuntu to give me a dialog box or something when my prop drivers have been uninstalled because of its frigin updates?
[18:43] <elementz> anybody here using a thinkpad with accelerometer? i just don't know how i should go about enabling it in intrepid > don't understand the differences in hdapsd and tp_smapi. what is in the mainline kernel now? how do i activate aps?
[18:44] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[18:44] <Acedip> bodsda, i have used two methods
[18:44] <Acedip> 1.sessions->startup programs->add
[18:44] <Acedip> 2.sessions->session options
[18:44]  * elementz really needs help on this
[18:44] <macvr> Acedip: what command did u add?
[18:44] <djhash> wow.. what's with xorg and ati not playing nice
[18:44] <Bodsda> Acedip, when you click add, what command are you typing into the 'command' box?
[18:45] <Marupa> OK, I've got a stumper for you guys.
[18:45] <subone> 42
[18:45] <vixey> wow how come there is 1528 people in here?
[18:45] <subone> idle
[18:45] <djhash> because there is not 1530 people in here
[18:45] <jimcooncat> stupid question: what's the name of the gnome archive (.zip, .deb) browser?
[18:45] <Birdwatch> If Ubuntu errors in window installer on calculating sums.. is that a good chance my CD is corrupt?
[18:45] <Tekno> file roller?
[18:45] <saykou> i got problems installing ubuntu tru wubi, it says during the installation that its not defined a root system file ... any one can help me with wubi
[18:45] <jimcooncat> Tekno: thanks! couldn't remember
[18:46] <daddus> Saw.IV.2008.iTALiAN.DTS.DVDRiP.XViD_by.alex91ss.part3.rar
[18:46] <djhash> Birdwatch: maybe.. check the sum of the CD and compare it with the one ubuntu provides online
[18:46] <kansan> with samba, i still can't login to the directory via an existing user account (without guest access enabled on the share) even after following docs:  http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/groupmapping.html .. ideas?
[18:46] <AlabamaHit> Hi, is Simple Compiz Manager not installed in 8.10? I can not seem to find it..If it is could you driect me?
[18:46] <masterkorp> bye
[18:46] <djhash> Birdwatch: there is a file MD5SUMS
[18:46] <bluefox83> will google-gadgets ever be offered in the apt repositories?
[18:46] <subone> "direct rendering: Yes" :D
[18:47] <Acedip> i'm using
[18:47] <death_> bah fuck it, back to windoze until intrepid fixes the stupid pulseaudio bug.
[18:47] <Acedip> /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop
[18:47] <Marupa> Everything in 8.04 was working fine...but as soon as I install 8.10, whenever I copy files, be it from root to home, or home to an external, or root to an external, or external to external, my desktop lags HORRIBLY.  This only happens with harddrive use.  Nothing's wrong with my drives or ram that I can tell.  My CPU is only at around 20-30% at  most when copying, and my RAM is under the 1GB used mark (2.5GB free).  Any ideas?
[18:47] <[TiZ]> Hey, quick question. How long does dist-upgrade usually take?
[18:47] <Acedip> in the commands tab
[18:47] <magnetron> alpro→ i see literally a handful of packages in synaptic with "identd" in their package name. did you try to hit "reload"?
[18:47] <ZZT32> [TiZ]: An hour or so, I suppose?
[18:47] <mich> hello how "good" would kubuntu 8.10 run on a Celeron 2.4 Ghz with 256 MB RAM?
[18:47] <AlabamaHit> [TiZ]: might take some time i think the server is still under a big load
[18:47] <kane77> hi, I have problem with kde apps.. their menu bar (the bar with File, Settings, etc) display on top of screen independent of the application window location. What is happening and how can I fix it?
[18:47] <profanephobia> ok so i can i tell networkmanager to use PAP authentication instead of CHAP for a GPRS connection?
[18:47] <magnetron> [TiZ]→ you need to get it from a fast mirror, don't use the main servers
[18:47] <Bodsda> Acedip, your trying to auto load transmission by opening a terminal??
[18:47] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[18:47] <erUSUL> mich: seems pretty low in ram try xubuntu instead (or buy more ram)
[18:48] <[TiZ]> ZZT32, AlabamaHit, magnetron: Thanks for your answers. I have the desktop CD already downloaded; can I use it as a package source to expedite the process?
[18:48] <magnetron> [TiZ]→ no, if you want to do that you need the alternate disc.
[18:48] <Marupa> Any suggestions, guys?
[18:48] <mich> erUSUL: i heard kubuntu runs pretty nice on PS3 which also has "only" 256 RAM .. .hm so?
[18:48] <saykou> i got problems installing ubuntu tru wubi, it says during the installation that its not defined a root system file ... any one can help me with wubi
[18:48] <Alexander-S> @ mich iam running ubuntu @ a P3 900 Mhz  with 256 BM ram
[18:48] <[TiZ]> magnetron: Ah, I was not aware. I'll go fetch it, then! Thank you! :)
[18:48] <emorris> I keep getting emails from cron which say "/etc/cron.daily/debtags: 4: debtags: not found; run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/debtags exited with return code 127" <-- any idea what this means/what I should do about it?
[18:49] <Alexander-S> in my view it should work
[18:49] <Prose> hey, can I upgrade to 8.10 without killing my system ?
[18:49] <erUSUL> mich: well i do not have first han experience just giving my humble opinion
[18:49] <lucas_> where is # USB devices (usbfs replacement)???
[18:49] <Marupa> Prose: Yes.
[18:49] <Alexander-S> yes
[18:49] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Prose
[18:49] <ay^> Prose: yes, hoefully
[18:49] <Pici> Prose: Sure. Read the release notes first though
[18:49] <Pici> !notes | Prose
[18:49] <bahadunn> Prose: I did not have any problems
[18:49] <Alexander-S> you can upgrade i did it a few minuits ago ;)
[18:49] <Prose> hum, all right thanks all that have so swiftly answered :)
[18:49] <profanephobia> how can i tell networkmanager to use PAP authentication instead of CHAP for a GPRS connection?
[18:50] <r00tintheb0x> Hello all, if I have 6x147GB SCSI drives in a RAID6 array... what would be my total available space? Or could someone give me a rule of thumb to calculate RAID space in general?
[18:50] <magnetron> profanephobia→ by changing the setting in network-manager for that specific gprs connection
[18:50] <Marupa> Any suggestions on why my destop would be so slow when utilizing harddrive?
[18:50] <sgronblo> I have a problem with my rgb.txt file being empty
[18:50] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[18:50] <magnetron> Marupa→ are you using Wubi?
[18:51] <Marupa> magnetron: No
[18:51] <bluefox83> !google-gadgets
[18:51] <profanephobia> magnetron: i can't find anything that allows me to change that option, do you know where it may be
[18:51] <magnetron> Marupa→ do you have a slow hard drive?
[18:51] <sgronblo> I manually downloaded a file to replace it earlier, but then upgraded some packages and then it's empty again.
[18:51] <azhar27> !google
[18:51] <DeathWolf> -!- No results found
[18:51] <Marupa> magnetron: two 500GB SATA 3.0GB 7200s.  No.
[18:51] <rschleetz> hi people, im trying to build gmp libs linked against /toolchain/ld-linux.so.2 can someone help me?
[18:51] <ay^> Marupa: I have some tendenciet of that as well
[18:51] <koruptid> anyone have any idea why keyrings wouldn't show up in the encryption and keyrings app??
[18:51] <ay^> Marupa: if I untar something big, I might just as well go and make coffee
[18:51] <Marupa> ay^: How so?
[18:52] <magnetron> profanephobia→ i just right click at the nm-applet and edit the settings for my profile
[18:52] <AlabamaHit> Hi, is Simple Compiz Manager not installed in 8.10? I can not seem to find it..If it is could you driect me?
[18:52] <ay^> Or when rtorrent is checking hashes..
[18:52] <Marupa> ay^: This happens if I try to copy say, 1GB from drive to drive.
[18:52] <narcoclepsy> I followed these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/wireless-connecting.html and I still can't connect to the wireless network :-/ it works fine in windoze.
[18:52] <kinections> i changed the resolution in ubuntu 8.10.1, and apparently, the monitor can't handle it, i can't see anything, and it didn't revert back, how do I reset my resolution without rm-ing all my settings files?
[18:53] <felix-da-catz> So for some reason when I plug in this USB bluetooth dongle I just see a ton of messages come across the screen.  I am assuming they are some kind of error.  But I need to be able to figure out how to get the messages to stop showing up on every terminal window.  I have changed *.emerg <tab> * to /dev/tty8 and that doesn't seem to do it.  How can I prevent this message from going crazy when I plug the bluetooth dongle in?
[18:53] <Marupa> magnetron: Any ideas?
[18:53] <ay^> Marupa: hum.. thus sounds worse than me, though filecopy makes it all very slow as well, but 1GB goes "fairly" quick so it wont bother me TOO much
[18:53] <magnetron> Marupa→ you really haven't provided much info to make any conclusions out of
[18:54] <Marupa> ay^: The copy itself is fast enough.  It's the system responsiveness when I copy.
[18:54] <thefool> just a quick question, when should I expect all the new packages from 8.10 to appear in my updater?
[18:54] <aherron> anyone else having issues with the nvidia driver v177?
[18:54] <Marupa> aherron: nope.
[18:54] <profanephobia> magnetron: sry to be a bother but theres nothing there, im not even really sure if this will even fix the problem i just cant think of anything else
[18:54] <felix-da-catz> The messages are like this:  [333.000000] hci_sco_data_packet: hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 92
[18:54] <ay^> Marupa: how unresponsive does it get? Is it bareable, or totally useless?
[18:54] <bryant> you have to manually allow for the update to 8.1 if you're using 8.04LTS
[18:54] <aherron> Marupa: are you on a desktop or laptop?
[18:54] <aherron> my probems seem releated to waking from sleep
[18:54] <thefool> or do I have to manually do a dist upgrade?
[18:54] <Marupa> aherron: Desktop
[18:54] <mker> thefool: do you mean you're using 8.04 and want to upgrade t 8.10?
[18:54] <magnetron> profanephobia→ you ARE using intrepid, right?
[18:54] <thefool> bryant, how do I do that
[18:54] <thefool> mker, yep
[18:55] <Marupa> ay^: It sometimes takes as long as 20 seconds after I start typing in any window for it to even show up.
[18:55] <koruptid> kinections, you could try editing the xorg.conf manually
[18:55] <bryant> system->administration->update manager
[18:55] <ay^> Marupa: oh thats BAD
[18:55] <aardshark> hello, is it me or do the ISO also fail for other people here for 8.10
[18:55] <profanephobia> magnetron: whats intrepid?
[18:55] <Marupa> ay^: Yeah.
[18:55] <mker> thefool: go to software sources, there you can change to get upgrades from normal releases, I'm guessing it's set to LTS right now.
[18:55] <bryant> sorry, its not there.
[18:55] <magnetron> profanephobia→ ubuntu 8.10
[18:55] <thefool> profanephobia, the latest ubuntu 8.10
[18:55] <kinections> koruptid: i believe the resolution settings inside of ubuntu are independent of that of xorg.conf
[18:55] <Dethray> Is there a program out there that'll collect all my config files so I can re-install linux and not have to go through all the configuring?
[18:55] <thefool> ok
[18:55] <ay^> Dethray: not really
[18:55] <dimitree> How can i see the version number of Blender when installing it trough Add/Remove ?
[18:55] <kinections> koruptid: however, i did find a file called monitors.xml in side of .config
[18:55] <jomodo> Dethray: just backup /etc :)
[18:55] <bryant> its in the preferences in the synaptic package manager :)
[18:55] <magnetron> profanephobia→ it has the version of network manager with GPRS support
[18:56] <Dethray> Good idea, jomodo
[18:56] <bryant> there's specific instructions in the 'get ubuntu' section of their website regarding upgrading
[18:56] <profanephobia> magnetron: no im using hardy i wasnt even aware of intrepid
[18:56] <koruptid> kinections, perhaps.... it has been a few versions since I last used ubuntu.... just started using it again and have run into my own laundry list of issues that nobody seems to want to acknowledge are problems
[18:56] <Marupa> Anyone?  This is really ticking me off, cause I do a LOT of file copying and such.
[18:56] <ninjafury> I have intrepid and can't hear any sound. I'm using spdif as my output. How do I set this to be the default?
[18:56] <thefool> mker, thanks
[18:56] <Rorgo> anyone know how to suspend print jobs in Cups? So I can resume them later?
[18:56] <magnetron> profanephobia→ the network manager in hardy has no real GPRS support at all
[18:56] <saykou> i got problems installing ubuntu tru wubi, it says during the installation that its not defined a root system file ... any one can help me with wubi
[18:56] <kinections> koruptid: what problems do you have?
[18:56] <tonisius> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]  <---
[18:56] <bryant> Has anyone here had cpu load issues when loading flash animations/applications in firefox on 8.10??
[18:57] <thefool> upgrading now :)
[18:57] <Dethray> Is intrepid still in beta?
[18:57] <tonisius> My older ubuntu box is having trouble getting updates,
[18:57] <bryant> no its officially released now
[18:57] <mker> thefool: you're welcome, enjoy 8.10 it's great :)
[18:57] <thefool> nope released yesterday I believe
[18:57] <kinections> bryant: who doesn't have issues with flash? :D
[18:57] <ninjafury> Dethray: nope
[18:57] <tonisius> How can I go about fixing this issue, are there other mirrors?
[18:57] <Dethray> Sweet
[18:57] <magnetron> tonisius→ use another mirror
[18:57] <bryant> yesterday was launch
[18:57] <aardshark> help, when I try to burn the 8.10 ISO i get burned failure. I have tried downloading it more than once from diff mirrors with the same result. Says cd fixation error or something. anyone?
[18:57] <ay^> Marupa: what does system monitor say when you copy files?
[18:57] <r00tintheb0x> Why doesn't Ubuntu get with the eyecandy program.
[18:57] <tonisius> magnetron: where?
[18:57] <r00tintheb0x> Jesus.
[18:57] <thefool> 8.10 means releases in october so...
[18:57] <r00tintheb0x> Orange and brown... they could throw some shine to it or something.
[18:57] <Marupa> ay^: Like, CPU/RAM and such load?
[18:57] <tonisius> magnetron: looking around for a mirror of the Repos
[18:57] <bryant> try using a different CD or burn at a slower speed
[18:57] <dimitree> I'm using 8.10 right now lol
[18:57] <ay^> Marupa: yeah
[18:57] <koruptid> kinections, problems with my built-in mic, keyring problems, packages not showing up in synaptic that are in the repositories, etc....
[18:57] <profanephobia> magnetron: k is it stable
[18:58] <ninjafury> How do I set ALSA to use spdif by default?
[18:58] <magnetron> tonisius→ you can use Synaptic to find a better mirror
[18:58] <macvr> hi all... any how-to for using the new features implemented in intrepid
[18:58] <kinections> koruptid: don't show up in synaptic but show up in apt-cache search ?
[18:58] <magnetron> profanephobia→ yes.
[18:58] <jomodo> koruptid: did you confirm your built in mic is supported?
[18:58] <magnetron> !notes | profanephobia
[18:58] <tonisius> magnetron: i don't have a desktop to show me some mirrors, I'm using it on my server,
[18:58] <koruptid> kinections, can't confirm that... but I can absolutely confirm that they are installable
[18:58] <magnetron> tonisius→ then you have to do it manually
[18:58] <profanephobia> magnetron: ok thank you!
[18:59] <tonisius> magnetron: any suggested mirrors that work for my Edgy?
[18:59] <Marupa> ay^: spike of 80% CPU for about a second, and RAM stays at a steady 421Mib.
[18:59] <aardshark> ok trying 24x write speed to see if that works
[18:59] <Lequtix> hi all...
[18:59] <koruptid> jomodo, my card is supported and it is a built-in mic..... the problem is that the mic is so quiet as to be unusable
[18:59] <tonisius> would any of these work? http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[18:59] <ninjafury> anyone? Need to force ALSA to use spdif as a default.
[18:59] <magnetron> tonisius→ choose a mirror close to you
[18:59] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[18:59] <koruptid> jomodo, STAC9227 chipset
[18:59] <pasteeater> Does anyone understand this checkinstall error?  I didn't get it in 8.04, but did in 8.10.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6074543&postcount=166
[18:59] <ay^> Marupa: Tha bad news, but it's really just a speculation, is that the disk could be going bad
[18:59] <sx66|eee|ppc> yyoyo
[18:59] <Lequtix> I've upgraded to 7,10 and my volume and wireless buttons stopped working.. any  ideas??  HP/Compaq 6710b
[18:59] <jomodo> koruptid: probably something to take up with the kernel driver author tbh
[18:59] <ay^> Marupa: I have to get my son into bed now bbl
[18:59] <kinections> koruptid: i'd assume that synaptic has some messed up search if you can find it with apt-cache but not synaptic
[18:59] <kinections> koruptid: i can't help you too much though, since i don't use synaptic
[18:59] <Marupa> ay^: I just bought the drives three days ago.
[19:00] <Lequtix> 8.10 rather
[19:00] <thefool> so update manager popped up, told me a new distribution release is available. I clicked upgrade and It has been sitting greyed out ever since. Is this usual?
[19:00] <Marupa> Any other suggestions, anyone?
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[19:00] <koruptid> jomodo: it is an issue in alsa and pulseaudio
[19:00] <Lequtix> I've upgraded to 8.10 and my volume and wireless buttons stopped working.. any  ideas??  HP/Compaq 6710b
[19:00] <a1len> It was an update from 8.04?
[19:01] <Lequtix> it seemd to work in 8.10rc
[19:01] <magnetron> thefool→ this can happen if your particular package server is over-stressed
[19:01] <thefool> magnetron, so do I just wait?
[19:01] <jomodo> koruptid: entirely possible
[19:01] <saykou> i got problems installing ubuntu tru wubi, it says during the installation that its not defined a root system file ... any one can help me with wubi
[19:01] <thefool> magnetron, I don't like the idea of killing it
[19:01] <koruptid> jomodo: any idea on keyrings? lol.... If I can't fix my mic then by G-d I'm gonna fix the keyring issue
[19:01] <sx66|eee|ppc> 8.10 installation
[19:01] <kane77> is removing .kde directory safe? (I just did it :) )
[19:01] <magnetron> thefool→ it'd be best to wait
[19:01] <magnetron> kane77→ no.
[19:01] <thefool> ok
[19:01] <jomodo> koruptid: doubtful but whats the problem?
[19:01] <jltorrente> how can i clone one partition into another?
[19:01] <a1len> saykou: Are you using a CD?
[19:02] <sx66|eee|ppc> yeah
[19:02] <Tom_Davis> thefool: consider it, moving it on to a higher consciousness
[19:02] <kinections> kane77: removing it kills all your application settings so you start over
[19:02] <thefool> saykou, it is saying this when you are defining partitions?
[19:02] <Shaye> thefool
[19:02] <kinections> kane77: it shouldn't cripple your system, but would just reset in kde
[19:02] <Shaye> can you please cry me a river?
[19:02] <kane77> magnetron, well, but it fixed my problems with menubar displaying independently of applications (and over gnome panel)
[19:02] <pasteeater> thefool: if you get impatient you can change to a new mirror.  i use one in my same state and it is lightning fast and not overwhelmed.
[19:02] <Bodsda> hi, i have my panels both at the top of my screen, with the {applications, places, system} bar at the top and the bar that shows open programs beneath it, sometimes when i log on i find they have switched places. not a major issue but a bit irritating, im running intrepid but this also happened on hardy
[19:02] <kane77> kinection, that's okay with me.. :)
[19:03] <koruptid> jomodo, the "Encryption and Keyrings" section doesn't have any tab for keyrings and my network manager no longer is accessing the default keyring without me entering a password on login.... which I didn't have to do when I first installed the other day
[19:03] <Marupa> Anyone else have any suggestions on how to fix this issue?  I really like 8.10...
[19:03] <ChurleyEater> Anyone have any experience installing an Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Card on Ubuntu 8.10?  I've tried several step-by-step isntructions, and nothing has worked.  Probably because I'm more noob than noob.
[19:03] <koruptid> Marupa, what was the issue? I missed it amongst trying to resolve my own
[19:03] <thefool> ok well it just died with Could not download the release notes
[19:04] <thefool> so new mirror it is, how do I do that?
[19:04] <paul__> Hello, has anyone managed to get adobe flash player to work in mozilla on 8.10?
[19:04] <cmdbbq> i seem to be banned in #ubuntu-offtopic, but i have no idea why, i haven't been there in ages
[19:04] <Marupa> koruptid: System goes unresponsive when copying a file from drive to drive (any two drives)
[19:04] <Pici> cmdbbq: Inquire in #ubuntu-ops then
[19:04] <AlabamaHit> is Simple Compiz Manager not installed in 8.10? I can not seem to find it..If it is could you driect me?
[19:04] <cmdbbq> thanks
[19:04] <cmdbbq> pici
[19:04] <aherron> hmm, i'm not able to select which nvidia driver i want, it doesnt register my activation of 173
[19:04] <koruptid> Marupa, have you tried booting onto a livecd to see if it is an install specific problem?
[19:04] <thefool> nevermind found it
[19:04] <Marupa> koruptid: LiveCD works fine.
[19:04] <Lequtix> Anyone else hvave problems with volume buttons and wireless buttons stop working in 8.10??
[19:04] <dimitree> Am i suposed to build glibc ? in Synaptic there's only the source and docs ?
[19:05] <koruptid> Marupa, have you checked to see if your controller is being loaded into the kernel?
[19:05] <Flannel> AlabamaHit: No managers (except the three radio button one) are installed by default.  You need to install simple-ccsm or compizconfig-settings-manager (the latter is the full blown version)
[19:05] <ummmd> I installed command line version from 8.10 alternate cd... trying to get nvidia restricted driver to work but module not found... please help.
[19:05] <thefool> anyway to determine if a server is under heavy load or not before trying to download from them?
[19:05] <Marupa> koruptid: How would I check that?
[19:05] <meglo> Hey guys, I'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 but there isn't enough space on / to do it. Its maxed out at 100%. I used LVM to install to so I know I can resize things, but is there an easy to use frontend to LVM I can use to resize my volumes?
[19:05] <Flannel> dimitree: apt-cache policy blender
[19:06] <Flannel> dimitree: Why do you want to build glibc?
[19:06] <Marupa> koruptid: 00:05.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a3) ?
[19:06] <thefool> nevermind found that too. Ubuntu really is nicely designed for people to just figure stuff out easily
[19:06] <koruptid> Marupa, one second... have to look that up myself..... it is something to do with dpkg tho
[19:06] <dimitree> Flannel, to install Blender from the website
[19:06] <AlabamaHit> Flannel: so Simple-ccsm is the simple managainer and compizconfig is the Advantced? I just want the simple...so i need the simple-ccsm?
[19:06] <Kwiwaa> euhh par défaut, il est ou le dossier des téléchargements terminés de amule !?
[19:06] <koruptid> Marupa, sounds right.... brb tho
[19:06] <Flannel> AlabamaHit: correct.  sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[19:06] <Elfranne> can any one help me to setup a sftp server ?
[19:06] <AlabamaHit> Flannel: thanks
[19:06] <dimitree> Flannel,  it says it needs glibc 2.3.6
[19:06] <Flannel> dimitree: Whats wrong with blender from the repos?
[19:06] <Flannel> Elfranne: sudo apt-get install openssh-server, and you're done!
[19:06] <Soopa> Hi all, I have an old IDE drive that's formatted ext2, but for some reason I can't write to it... there's a little lock icon by it in gparted
[19:06] <Yamakiri_> how can I encrypt a directory in ubuntu?
[19:07] <ay^> Yamakiri_: right click on it and chose encrypt
[19:07] <Soopa> Any idea how I could write to it?
[19:07] <guntbert> !fr | Kwiwaa
[19:07] <dimitree> Flannel, i cant figure out which version it is on the repos with add/remove
[19:07] <Yamakiri_> ay^: thanks
[19:07] <Flannel> Elfranne: (well, unless you need to forward for your router, set up additional accounts, etc)
[19:07] <pasteeater> thefool: you can try to just download a package without installing: sudo apt-get install -d medit
[19:07] <Appl3Kork> So I finally got things working with the Ubuntu Server, I'm just now having difficulties connecting to it outside my home network?  and is PPPoA a type of firewall?
[19:07] <Flannel> dimitree: Use synaptic instead, it'll tell you.
[19:07] <Maeva> I don't have any sound because I think my sound card isn't in the new kernel
[19:07] <Yamakiri_> wait um ay^ there's no encrypt option :S
[19:07] <ummmd> nvidia module not found even though nvidia-glx-177 is installed???
[19:07] <pasteeater> thefool: once you change to the mirror...nevermind  useless
[19:07] <Elfranne> Flannel I have already done that but how do I start it ( command line )
[19:08] <dimitree> Flannel, ok it says it's version 46 on the website its 48a ...
[19:08] <thefool> pasteeater, it seems synaptic has a test to select the best server where it pings them tries downloading small files etc and then picks one
[19:08] <ay^> Yamakiri_: huh? I have one
[19:08] <ay^> "Encrypt"
[19:08] <dimitree> - 2 releases lol
[19:08] <Lynet> Appl3Kork: PPPoA is a tunneling/encapsulation protocol, used by some ISPs for connections over ADSL.
[19:08] <meglo> Does anyone here know of a good LVM Frontend?
[19:08] <compengi> when you set `nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24` why do you need to set the depth to 24 when it's by default?
[19:08] <ay^> Yamakiri_: forth from the bottom
[19:08] <pasteeater> thefool: that's fancy.  i don't use synaptic much.
[19:08] <koruptid> Marupa, I would google for issues with your SATA controller in ubuntu
[19:08] <Yamakiri_> ay^: Dolphin doesn't have that
[19:08] <Naty> hi
[19:08] <emorris> I keep getting emails from cron which say "/etc/cron.daily/debtags: 4: debtags: not found; run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/debtags exited with return code 127" <-- any idea what this means/what I should do about it?
[19:08] <Naty> need some help
[19:08] <Flannel> Elfranne: the server will install and start by default
[19:08] <koruptid> Marupa, what version of the livecd are you using and what version of ubuntu is installed?
[19:08] <Appl3Kork> well in my router settings under firewall it says: Block Anonymous Internet Requests. Would I want that disabled so people could see the server?
[19:09] <ay^> Yamakiri_: oh I have no clue what Dolphin is :)
[19:09] <Yamakiri_> 4th from bottom is "add to places"
[19:09] <djhash> !ask | Naty
[19:09] <Yamakiri_> ay^: kubuntu file manager
[19:09] <Marupa> koruptid: I installed from the RC.
[19:09] <guntbert> !ask | Naty
[19:09] <koruptid> anyone have any idea why keyrings wouldn't show up in the encryption and keyrings app??
[19:09] <jltorrente> Some help here: I want to test if Intrepid will run ok on my computer (I needed to tweak Hardy a lot to make it work) so I want to know if this could be pulled off and would work
[19:09] <maestro444> hello, does anybody know how cryptsetup works?
[19:09] <ay^> Yamakiri_: then I appologise, I was talking about Ubuntu :)
[19:09] <thefool> nor do I but I had it up from disabling the just LTS upgrades thing as I was not sure where to do that
[19:09] <rmn> my parents managed to remove network manager from the notification area of an intrepid box.  i do not have physical access to the box.  suggestions?
[19:09] <Naty> i need an spanish channel
[19:09] <Yamakiri_> isn't kubuntu ubuntu?
[19:09] <compengi> !es | Naty
[19:09] <Flannel> dimitree: What from the newer versions are you interested in?
[19:09] <djhash> !sp | Naty
[19:09] <Yamakiri_> with KDE environment
[19:10] <djhash> :-p
[19:10] <Naty> ubuntu.es?
[19:10] <cmdbbq> Yamakiri_: it is ubuntu with KDE as the default desktop
[19:10] <chadeldridge> Does C/A/BS no longer reload the xorg.conf file ?
[19:10] <cmdbbq> environment
[19:10] <ummmd> maestro444: man cryptsetup
[19:10] <Naty> ubuntu.sp
[19:10] <Naty> ?
[19:10] <koruptid> rmn, have them launch nm-applet & from a terminal session
[19:10] <localh0st> Hello
[19:10] <Flannel> Yamakiri_: they're the same distro, different GUI frontends
[19:10] <Yamakiri_> oh
[19:10] <Yamakiri_> okay
[19:10] <maestro444> ummmd: didnt find the information which i need
[19:10] <djhash> Naty: type "/j #ubuntu-es" or if you are using KDE "j #kubuntu-es"
[19:10] <koruptid> anyone have any idea why keyrings wouldn't show up in the encryption and keyrings app??
[19:10] <compengi> Naty, #ubuntu-es for ubuntu or #kubuntu-es for kubuntu
[19:10] <rmn> koruptid, ok, i'll try to pass that on.  however will that work after reboot? i think they've tried the latter a few times
[19:10] <jltorrente> I want to clome my hardy partition into another one exactly the same size, then I will upgrade Hardy to Intrepid... if it doesn't work ok, restore the clone disk and pretend that nothing happened
[19:10] <localh0st> Ive got problem with my cups server, when i trying start up this i see: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
[19:10] <chadeldridge> Does C/A/BS no longer reload the xorg.conf file ?
[19:10] <localh0st> Whats wrong?
[19:10] <r00tintheb0x> Nice, GAIM has a nice IRC interface also.
[19:11] <basy> Hi, are there any hardware tests for CPU, MEM and graphic cards?
[19:11] <Naty> thanks..hajajjaja
[19:11] <tonisius> magnetron: none of the mirrors on that site seem to be working
[19:11] <Cinch123> Cinch123
[19:11] <dekkong> hello i'm having problems recording sound with my microphone... the sound recorder appcalication hangs it's self and If i try to talk in like 3 seconds it shows 3 minutes
[19:11] <s0nix> r00tintheb0x:  PIDGIN !
[19:11] <s0nix> not GAIM :)
[19:11] <ummmd> maestro444: what specific info are you looking for?
[19:11] <compengi> r00tintheb0x, there is no gaim anymore :D
[19:11] <erki> basy: Check tomshardware.com
[19:11] <tonisius> got any links or ideas of where I can find more mirrors for my apt-get on Edgy
[19:11] <djhash> basy: search synaptics for hardware test
[19:11] <cesar_bo> Hello, using compiz sometimes the windows border look crapy or disapear, I have to change focus to be able to see them again. There is a fix to this?
[19:11] <x_dimitri> does a default install of ubuntu 8.04 support ip masquerading?
[19:11] <subone> why did they change the name anyway
[19:11] <mixxon> @dekkong: same problem
[19:12] <compengi> subone, beause they had issues with aim
[19:12] <maestro444> ummmd: i have an eeepc which has two physical volumes. i have made a lvm with two logical volumes
[19:12] <koruptid> rmn, it may need to be re-added to their session if they removed it
[19:12] <Flannel> tonisius: You really should be upgrading, edgy has been out of support for six months now.
[19:12] <koruptid> rmn, system > preferences > session
[19:12] <tonisius> Flannel: just trying to hold out till I have a replacement server ready in two weeks
[19:12] <maestro444> ummmd: then encrypted these two volumes / and swap with cryptsetup.. everytime i boot i got to input passphrase twice..
[19:12] <rmn> koruptid, excellent. thanks.
[19:12] <tonisius> but need to at least upgrade a few pieces of software
[19:12] <dimitree> Flannel, you got me there :) will check whats new now, but i used v46 a while ago when i tryed to switch to Linux again :) there were promisses of more custom interface and so on i hope they have it in this version
[19:12] <mirko_> how to install dock on ubuntu 8.10, and which one?
[19:13] <truebosko> Quick question .. I began the upgrade process for Ibex last night on my hardy installation. I just let it run overnight and when I woke up I had a ton of failed packages so I just closed the upgrade down. Do I have to remove all the packages that WERE downloaded somewhere? Because I know for sure it was downloading for 5+ hours .. just dont want useless data sitting around
[19:13] <Marupa> koruptid: Do you think I should reinstall from the final?
[19:13] <paul__> Does anybody know what causes this error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65350/
[19:13] <koruptid> rmn, I can't speak to why they might have been screwing around in the session configuratiion... but hey, lol
[19:13] <mado> hi guys and gals ... oy ... i have a problem with sound ... i use kubuntu 8.10 ... i don't get it ... i had sound shortly before the desktop finished loading ... i heard a bit of the start up tune ... but now ... i don't have any sound at all ... weird ... can you help me??
[19:13] <maestro444> ummmd: how can i setup these volumens so that i have to input passphrase only once.
[19:13] <Flannel> tonisius: Alright.  As long as you understand that you're not being updated with security things (which includes major ones such as the SSL RNG thing, and some DNS vulnerabilities), you can use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:13] <romes1> is true that ﻿Federal Circuit Decides Software No Longer Patentable here the link http://www.pli.edu/patentcenter/blog.asp?view=plink&id=368
[19:13] <ummmd> maestro444: do you have two separate volume groups?
[19:13] <maestro444> ummmd: yes
[19:14] <csilk> paul__, yes, use sudo and make sure apt synaptic or anything else like that is running
[19:14] <koruptid> Marupa, I have my doubts that doing so would help... but if you don't have any files to lose I don't see where it would hurt to try
[19:14] <rmn> koruptid, hehehe.  neither do i.  i have freenx installed on it, and only have to give them instructions on how to open the router and maybe i'll get to see it for myself
[19:14] <csilk> *isn't
[19:14] <compengi> truebosko, you just rerun the upgrading and it would check which packages were downloaded and which failed and retry
[19:14] <Maeva> can I download I want to install a seperate linux header so that my soundcard is supporter by intreprid but how ? I use 64 bits
[19:14] <maestro444> ummmd: wait .. no one volume group with two logical volumes
[19:14] <Marupa> koruptid: separate /home partition, so, no worries there.
[19:14] <ummmd> maestro444: i use a keyfile to unlock a second encrypted drive.
[19:14] <paul__> csilk how exactly do i do that ?
[19:14] <emorris> paul__: yes, it means that you have more than one of synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, add/remove programs and update manager running at once
[19:14] <maestro444> ummmd: with an usb stick?
[19:14] <Tom_Davis> ok this is odd, my hardy install of xubuntu beeps out the speakers at login, but no plays mp3 or other sounds
[19:14] <mirko_> how to install (cairo,...) dock on ubuntu 8.10?
[19:14] <csilk> paul__,  what are you doing in the first place to get that error?
[19:14] <blip-> hi, i'm running hardy... can someone please take a quick look at this,  they are saying it causes a kernel panic in Hardy... but how did they even get bluez ?   Only a few of the mentioned  packages are in the repos.... http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceInstallation/ConnectingBluetooth?highlight=%28bluetooth%29
[19:14] <koruptid> Marupa, *shrug* go for it..... if I can't figure out the damn keyring issue I'm getting tempted to do so myself
[19:15] <paul__> I was configuring some package
[19:15] <paul__> I was supposed to choose OK
[19:15] <saykou> i got problems installing ubuntu tru wubi, it says during the installation that its not defined a root system file ... any one can help me with wubi
[19:15] <Marupa> Well, I'll be back if this doesn't fix my issue.  Later!
[19:15] <csilk> paul__, you're going to need to be specific
[19:15] <paul__> but i could click it nor choose it
[19:15] <koruptid> anyone have any idea why keyrings wouldn't show up in the encryption and keyrings app??
[19:15] <ummmd> maestro444: i unlock the first drive with a passphrase, and on one of the partitions, i have a keyfile that unlocks the second.
[19:15] <paul__> csilk have you ever configured the sound base so that you choose whether to use OSS or ALSA ?
[19:16] <paul__> its a blue window
[19:16] <csilk> paul__,  in the sound menu, yes
[19:16] <erki> ﻿Hi! I'm trying to configure dual monitors. Both monitors are active during boot, and while showing the login screen. When I log in, the secondary monitor is disabled, and I can't figure out how to get it running again. The secondary monitor shows up in "Screen resolution", but no configuration there seems to activate it.
[19:16] <Flannel> dimitree: If there's nothing in the new versions you have to have, 0.46 is probably just fine.  2.47 was a bugfix release, and some of those fixes have already been ported to the version in intrepid.  2.48 looks like it adds support for some game logic stuff, and Windows 64 bit.  So, .46 may be just fine (and if there are additional bugs you run into, report them and they can be patched, etc)
[19:16] <paul__> I had something similar up, and i closed it
[19:16] <compengi> saykou, you mean LVMP?
[19:16] <csilk> erki, ati?
[19:16] <erki> csilk: No, intel
[19:16] <rmn> another question: i have samba on an 8.04-box.  I enabled the $homes-share in smb.conf (removed comments).  I now have a share called "Homes".  never seen that before when sharing homes.  any suggestions?
[19:16] <r00tintheb0x> I <3 Lamp!
[19:16] <maestro444> ummmd: do u have an setup instructions or any link?
[19:16] <Tundrayeti312> koruptid: After googling "keyring bug ibex" it looks like there is a bug, i suggest you do the same
[19:16] <saykou> LVMP how so compengi
[19:16] <TwoD> I need opinions on what to backup on my system before a complete reinstall. /etc and /home are already done. Anything else? Thought about /var, but I only needed parts of it like /var/www.
[19:16] <saykou> whats LVMP compengi
[19:16] <csilk> erki, ok sorry, only ever done dual screen with ati
[19:16] <maestro444> ummmd: this solution should work here too..
[19:16] <erki> csilk: Okay, thanks anyway
[19:17] <mbrown> i need some help wtih diagnosing an error with lamp
[19:17] <koruptid> Tundrayeti312, thanks mate.... I've tried just about every google search I could think of *but* that one, lol
[19:17] <maestro444> ummmd: swap can use this key file
[19:17] <dda> -Whats the folder for the Desktop?
[19:17] <chadeldridge> Why does CTRL / ALT / Backspace no longer reload the xorg and how can i make it do so?
[19:17] <dda> in kde4
[19:17] <Flannel> TwoD: you shouldn't need anything else in /var/ except /www/ (unless you have your mailspool there, or anything else you've put there manually)
[19:17] <Maeva> where can I find linux-image-2.6.25-2 for AMD 64 bits ? So I can install it separately for my sound card to work and to select the menu true grub. any help ?
[19:17] <csilk> C
[19:17] <ummmd> maestro444: i'll check google
[19:17] <Tundrayeti312> koruptid: lol, np
[19:18] <SMGGM> Hello, could someone help me with Samba file sharing?
[19:18] <koruptid> Tundrayeti312, thing that irks me is that they willingly released ibex with so damned many known issues
[19:18] <TwoD> Flannel, ok, thanks. I had subversion there for a while, but already moved it...
[19:18] <maestro444> ummmd: thank you
[19:18] <compengi> saykou, i thought something else
[19:18] <mbrown> i have installed LAMP and what not but when i go to hostname/testdirectory ig et a page load error
[19:18] <Tundrayeti312> koruptid: understandable, but they have a release schedule to maintain
[19:18] <thefool> koruptid, they have this thing called a release schedule....their are many pros and cons to it
[19:18] <mbrown> or event hostname/index.php or even hostname/~michael i get the same error
[19:18] <lawstudent> how do i wipe clean my SD card?
[19:18] <mbrown> i have installed everything i should need
[19:18] <lawstudent> on WinXP?
[19:19] <koruptid> thefool, I understand that..... but even microsoft pushes back releases if a product has too many problems
[19:19] <ay^> lawstudent: install ubuntu :)
[19:19] <thefool> well what issues are you talking about?
[19:19] <n8tuser> Maeva-> does it shows on the list if you do apt-cache search linux--image-2.6.25-2
[19:19] <m68060> yeah, but linux policy means microsoft = bad, always.
[19:19] <dimitree> Flannel,  well the new Sun, Sky, Atmosphere looks interesting i wonder if it works with yafray lol :) when will blender get a proper renerer haha
[19:19] <thefool> I know there was some regression in support for some proprietary hardware other than that I know of nothing major
[19:19] <ummmd> maestro444: something like this... http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile
[19:20] <kinnaz> m68060 microsoft policy = linux is bad not vice versa
[19:20] <lawstudent> ay^: that's what i hope to do... install ubuntu from sd stick
[19:20] <paul__> Is it possible to bring a synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, add/remove closed window back up? Its not visible on my bar
[19:20] <m68060> i'll give you a problem with the latest realese that wasn't in the old one
[19:20] <Flannel> koruptid, thefool, m68060: mind moving the time based released conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic? thanks
[19:20] <twisted`> I replaced the videocard in the ubuntu system, after I installed it... how can I let ubuntu reconfigure itself to maximize perfomance with the videocard?
[19:20] <maestro444> ummmd: thanks, i'll check it
[19:20] <ay^> lawstudent: couldn't you just format it? (i've never used SD-card in xp)
[19:20] <compengi> mbrown, did you try http://localhost/?
[19:20] <m68060> before you install ATI drivers the screen is unreadable.
[19:20] <ummmd> maestro444: you might have to make small adjustments for lvm specifics (e.g. in fstab)
[19:20] <rmn> ummmd, maestro444 i'm working with the author of that to make it work with the latest intrepid kernel (assuming it's the USB keyfile boot)
[19:20] <ay^> lawstudent: or just delete everything on it
[19:20] <koruptid> thefool, my mic works but at such a low volume as to be unusable, the keyring issue, packages not showing in synaptic but have their repository added and are installable through apt-get
[19:21] <bryant> has anyone had trouble running flash applications/animations on firefox or epiphany? any time i attempt to go to a site with such things it overloads my cpu and cant effectively render anything. I've tried gnash swfdec and adobe plugins but issue still persists. [Using 8.10]
[19:21] <mbrown> compengi: that works but nothing else wrks
[19:21] <koruptid> Flannel, with respect... it was leading to being very on-topic, but I appreciate your efforts to maintain order
[19:21] <rmn> ummmd, i didn't do anything in fstab.  crypttab only to load the script.
[19:21] <thefool> Well we have already brought it back on topic with me asking for specific problems of this release that things "should" have been delayed for
[19:21] <compengi> mbrown, i see..
[19:21] <ZuckusFIll> hey guys when I run sudo apt-get update, I get this error message at the end "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[19:21] <ZuckusFIll> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[19:21] <bryant> i have a problem with this release :)
[19:22] <remoto> \join #campos
[19:22] <m68060> fool, the graphics support for ati out of the box is worse
[19:22] <RediXe> Has anyone delt with a touch sceen with (x)ubuntu? Does the default xorg.conf need to be changed? It seems to work  some what but needs to be calibrated a little to be more accurate. Any ideas?
[19:22] <compengi> mbrown, what's written in your /etc/hosts
[19:22] <sirMajid> is anybody familiar with kdevelop?
[19:22] <maestro444> ummmd: ah cool.. one thing. all these guides mention encrypted lvm .. does it works on eeepc where i have two physical devices.. and i need two logical volumes / and swap
[19:22] <lawstudent> what file system should i use on the SD card (to make it work on a linux comp, too): FAT? or FAT32?
[19:22] <thefool> koruptid, ok the mic things sounds like an alsa problem. That last thing you said... worries me quite a bit. But I hope they will fix it in the next few days.
[19:22] <ummmd> rmn: i'm just saying you need to have appropriate fstab entries to mount things correctly / set up swap
[19:22] <NicEXE> I used the following command to backup my drive to an iso "dd if=/dev/<hard drive> of=/path/to/backup.iso" how can I restore this backup from the iso file I made?
[19:22] <Flannel> ZuckusFIll: you shouldn't be using -proposed repos anyway.
[19:22] <m68060> 8.04 would let me use the computer just fine without propiatery drivers, but 8.10 was 640*480
[19:22] <ay^> lawstudent: FAT/32 works fine
[19:23] <lawstudent> ay^: fat32, is it?
[19:23] <ZuckusFIll> oh really? so should I jsut disable them in sources manager?
[19:23] <geertjan> HI, I just tried to upgrade to Intrepid, but due to a network (?) problem I had to retry it. The second time the update installer removed most packages. Now I am left with a commanline..
[19:23] <Maeva> n8tuser: apt-cache search linux--image-2.6.25-2 nothing happened so it worked I think in my console
[19:23] <Flannel> ZuckusFIll: yeah
[19:23] <ay^> lawstudent: both :)
[19:23] <geertjan> Can anybody tell me how to fix this?
[19:23] <ZuckusFIll> ok thanks
[19:23] <sirMajid> no kdevelop expert?
[19:23] <mbrown> localhost 127.0.0.1and 127.0.0. ubuntu/localdomain ubuntu
[19:23] <ummmd> maestro444: so your eeepc has two hard drives?
[19:23] <koruptid> thefool, the mic thing does seem to be alsa.... but I managed to get that far myself and then from there I've hit a bit brick wall. It sounds like it is fixed in the .18 alsa build but I haven't been able to find a launchpad repo to install the new version
[19:23] <rmn> ummmd, ok, sure.  maestro444 i ran a server with debian (now ubuntu 8.04) with three hdd + 2 hot-swapped hdd that were mounted at boot
[19:23] <mixxon> audio playback problem with skype under ubuntu 8.10 amd64, caused by requiered bluetooth-libs. someone have some hints?
[19:23] <rmn> maestro444, all encrypted, and unlocked with the usb-script
[19:23] <mr_polite> geertjan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:23] <mr_polite> startx
[19:23] <maestro444> ummmd: yes .. 4gb and 8gb
[19:24] <geertjan> Yes, but I also have no network left.
[19:24] <maestro444> rmn: do u have a instruction guide?
[19:24] <bryant> has anyone had trouble running flash applications/animations on firefox or epiphany? any time i attempt to go to a site with such things it overloads my cpu and cant effectively render anything. I've tried gnash swfdec and adobe plugins but issue still persists. My proprietary drivers for my graphics card are activated so they shouldn't be the issue. I'm running the 8.10 release
[19:24] <Elfranne> how do i start the sftp deamon ?
[19:24] <Ben_Dover> is there any way to play mp3 aac ect. on rythmbox
[19:24] <m68060> sudo apt-get install a file tree that doesn't suck
[19:24] <rmn> maestro444, i don't see why it shouldn't work with the eee 2x flash.  that would just be 2 physical volumes in the lvm
[19:24] <NicEXE> I used the following command to backup my drive to an iso "dd if=/dev/<hard drive> of=/path/to/backup.iso" how can I restore this backup from the iso file I made?
[19:24] <Flannel> koruptid: If you have support topics, that's fine.  But the about-ubuntu stuff belongs in -offtopic.  Nothing saying you can't have two going on at once
[19:24] <thefool> koruptid, have you tried compiling it from scratch? I have had to do that to get my card to work up until hardy
[19:24] <turst> hi all i just installed 8.10 and with a intell 4965  everytime i connect to a wireless router  it says conection terminated..never really connects.i can see the ap in the networks manager   any ideas?  it works well in vista as i'm using vista now to connect to the same router
[19:24] <kevin3> im never going to use linux again unles you guys can help me
[19:24] <erisco> does anyone know a tutorial for install ubuntu *from* a usb drive that works?
[19:24] <Flannel> Elfranne: its sshd, and it starts automatically when you install it.
[19:24] <m68060> kevin, want some help?
[19:24] <maestro444> rmn: yes .. should i have to first encrypt or first make an lvm out of them
[19:24] <rmn> maestro444, actually, no.  i'm redoing it now, and writing my own notes, as i only have very poor notes from the first time.  but basically it is not much different from the first install, and repeat it
[19:24] <bryant> be->there's codecs you can get for those in the package manager you can install
[19:24] <bryant> ben*
[19:25] <koruptid> thefool, I would but I'm leery of a hand build.... tends to cause a lot of problems later when the packages get updated
[19:25] <Kevin`> meow
[19:25] <kevin3> ok, i think i installed ndiswrapper common utils and graphical frontend
[19:25] <Ben_Dover> ok
[19:25] <kevin3> finally
[19:25] <kevin3> and not i go in to administrative or something
[19:25] <Lr5> Distribution upgrade to 8.10 seems to have gone wrong, it's stuck at 37 minutes remaining and the terminal gives a lot of text, saying something like "file system loop detected"; What should I do?
[19:25] <rmn> maestro444, what i did was to encrypt each device. then build the LVM on top of the encrypted part.  for the eee that would be 1 unencrypted partition (/boot) then 1 encrypted partition + 1 encrypted drive.  the two encrypted parts would build the lvm
[19:25] <maestro444> rmn: when i first make an lvm .. later i have two logical volumes with cryptsetup .. (state at the moment)
[19:26] <compengi> mbrown, are you behind a router?
[19:26] <velko> NicEXE, do you want to restore to the same hard disk you copied verbatim?
[19:26] <m68060> what's the prob kevin, and yes, it probably involves using sudo
[19:26] <ummmd> maestro444: so when you say you need two "logical volumes", are you speaking about lvm "logical volumes"?
[19:26] <koruptid> thefool, I'm sure there's a launchpad repository for alsa... I just haven't been able to turn it up yet
[19:26] <bryant> so nobody can help me with the flash issue? :/
[19:26] <Ben_Dover> does anyone run steam using wine? if so does wine comprimise the performance of steam compared to windows?
[19:26] <rmn> maestro444, what have you installed and how, to get some background?
[19:26] <Kevin`> kevin3: finally? you didn't ask a question before saying 'never use linux again'..
[19:26] <maestro444> rmn: so then i have to input the passphrase twice or not?
[19:26] <kevin3> and now it seems that it wont connect to my dlink router
[19:26] <jltorrente> wait... if i backup -home and reinstall all my software, would i keep all my preferences from Hardy to Intrepid?
[19:26] <erisco> does anyone know a tutorial for install ubuntu *from* a usb drive that works?
[19:26] <Kevin`> kevin3: what wireless chipset are you using
[19:26] <jltorrente>  /home, sorry
[19:26] <compengi> mbrown, do you have port 80 opened by your isp?
[19:26] <ay^>  bryant unfortunately no :/
[19:26] <thefool> bryant, not until I can recreate it unfortunately :( And I am just now upgrading
[19:26] <maestro444> ummmd: right.. two lvm logical volumes
[19:26] <fonzarelli> has anyone else noticed that Ibex seems to be antialiased differently than Heron somehow?
[19:26] <bryant> okay
[19:26] <kevin3> i put everything i had, my passwork...i have a passphrase and a password and im not sure which i need to use
[19:27] <kevin3> like a key
[19:27] <kevin3> um
[19:27] <Lr5> Distribution upgrade to 8.10 seems to have gone wrong, it's stuck at 37 minutes remaining and the terminal gives a lot of text, saying something like "file system loop detected"; What should I do? Cancelling the upgrade might break the system. :s
[19:27] <geertjan> mr_polite: I also have no network, so an apt-get is problematic.
[19:27] <thiebaude> fonzarelli:use much more memory for me
[19:27] <m68060> password not passphrase
[19:27] <kevin3> its linksys with speedboost
[19:27] <systest> Gah, no XEN kernel in 8.10?
[19:27] <bryant> simple animations it renders, but complex ones that i know what are supposed to look like, it nearly crashes my computer.
[19:27] <fonzarelli> thiebaude, seems that way for me too
[19:27] <Lequtix> i have good sucess with 8.10 but i have a few issues with power management and special keys not working
[19:27] <Kevin`> kevin3: usb or pci
[19:27] <thiebaude> 200mb out of 500 just running pidgin
[19:27] <Lequtix> anyone know how to fix it?
[19:27] <rmn> maestro444, correct.  however the script does that for you.  initially i got the passfile from the usb twice, but one could have an encrypted volume that contains the keyfiles that then unlocks the other parts of the system
[19:27] <maestro444> rmn: as i said.. i have an lvm with two logical volumes and these volumes / and swap are encrypted
[19:27] <MTecknology> Lr5: did it get to the point of installing software?
[19:27] <kevin3> pci
[19:27] <thiebaude> hmm
[19:27] <Lr5> MTecknology: it's at "Installing the upgrades"
[19:27] <Kevin`> kevin3: paste the appropriate line from lspci -nn
[19:28] <rmn> maestro444, the latter approach saves some boot time, as the script does a usb-sleep (5sec) once for each crypto-volume (doesn't remember that it was already called)
[19:28] <thefool> Kevin`, I don't think he is going to know what the appropriate line is
[19:28] <Lequtix> it suspends properly when on battery power when i close the lid... but if it's plugged in on ac power it will not suspend
[19:28] <maestro444> rmn: crypt on lvm or lvm on crypt.. in both ways i have to input my passphrases twice or .. i can use keyfile
[19:28] <rmn> maestro444, why do you have two logical volumes?
[19:28] <mbrown> compengi: i am using it in vmware. on my host machine i go to hostname and it works
[19:28] <Lr5> MTecknology: says "About 37 minutes remaining", the bar being at about one seventh way done
[19:28] <mbrown> never had to do anything else before such as yeterday
[19:28] <ummmd> maestro444: is one physical device entirely for / and the other entirely for swap?
[19:28] <Flannel> rmn: Why is that unusual?
[19:28] <rmn> maestro444, no, in crypt on lvm it would be only once
[19:28] <rmn> Flannel, why is what unusual?
[19:28] <MTecknology> Lr5: Do you have any CD's or ISO's mounted or installed?
[19:28] <Kevin`> thefool: usually says "wireless" or similar
[19:28] <kevin3> um where do I paste it? im using the frontend to point it to the inf
[19:28] <Lr5> MTecknology: nope
[19:29] <maestro444> ummmd: yes
[19:29] <kevin3> and what toi i enter to find that
[19:29] <n8tuser> Maeva-> so may it does not exist
[19:29] <maestro444> rmn: can you explain me why only once? didnt get it..
[19:29] <Flannel> rmn: Having more than one logical volume?
[19:29] <Kevin`> kevin3: if you know the right line, right here, it's only one line. otherwise, pastebin
[19:29] <MTecknology> Lr5: sorry, I don't have any idea
[19:29] <mixxon> after after installed skype under ubuntu 8.10 amd64, skype says /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so is missing. copieing this one from deb cuases the following
[19:29] <mixxon> ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1619:(bluetooth_init) BT_GETCAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5)
[19:29] <mixxon> any ideas how to fix this?
[19:29] <bryant> it would be nice if ubuntu had torrent support for downloading installation updates and packages inside the synaptic manager... the current bandwidth to the official site to download such things is worse than my emergency dialup ISP :<
[19:29] <dekkong> Hello ! I have problem recording with the mic.. what mixxer should I use?
[19:30] <kevin3> umm but im not sure what to paste
[19:30] <FFForever> how can i install cedga cvs? (is there a deb in the repo?)
[19:30] <thefool> kevin3 just type lspci -nn | grep Ethernet and paste the result
[19:30] <rmn> Flannel, i didn't say that it was.  but in the context it appeared as though maestro444 mixed lv and pe, as the eee has two drives
[19:30] <sirMajid> hi I really need help with kdevelop
[19:30] <ummmd> maestro444: this sounds very similar to my setup... i'm unclear about the exact problem you're encountering.
[19:30] <TwoD> bryn
[19:30] <Kevin`> thefool: it will probably be "network" not ethernet
[19:30] <compengi> mbrown, try adding your <internal ip> <host name> in your /etc/hosts after 127.0.1.1
[19:30] <sirMajid> noone is familiar with kdevelop here?
[19:30] <kevin3> i decided to try this like a couple days ago with no prior linux or programming experience as you can prob tell
[19:30] <thefool> Kevin`, darn, you may be right, mine were all Ethernet
[19:30] <rmn> maestro444, because the lvm would join the two drives (pe's) to one drive, on top of which you build your *one* crypto-volume, hence only one passphrase
[19:30] <emorris> sirMajid: ask your question
[19:31] <Kevin`> kevin3: do lspci -nn and paste it here: http://rafb.net/paste/
[19:31] <thefool> maybe 802.11 would be a good thing to grep for
[19:31] <Oceani1> Anyone know if I can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from within Windows XP?
[19:31] <thiebaude> !kdevelop
[19:31] <Lr5> I guess I'll just ctrl+c out of the upgrade and try something. :s
[19:31] <Flannel> Oceani1: Only if XP can edit ext3,
[19:31] <rmn> maestro444, then you would build your partitions inside the crypto-part
[19:31] <Flannel> !ext3 | Oceani1
[19:31] <domino14> ls
[19:31] <maestro444> rmn: i have this one.. but with two lvm logical volumes ( / and swap ) .. i have tow crypto-part
[19:31] <domino14> oh god
[19:31] <Kevin`> domino14: /n? ;p
[19:31] <Oceani1> (thank you guys)
[19:31] <TwoD> bryant, have you tried using another server? I think you can switch it in the app where you select the sources/repositories (forgot its english name). System->Administrations->Sources/Repositories?
[19:31] <kebomix> i began to hate ubuntu 8,10 before using it :@  , i had this error while loading on live before install http://paste.ubuntu.com/65357/ , i thought the wrong on cd cuz i burned on high speed , and i tried it on lowest speed and still have same error
[19:31] <domino14> :p
[19:32] <maestro444> rmn: ah ok.. i understand.. so you can build partitions under crypto-part.. didnt knew that
[19:32] <rmn> maestro444, no, because you can build several partitions under crypto
[19:32] <bryant> twod i wasn't aware i could, i'll try that though.
[19:32] <kevin3> maybe i can paste it in to a word doc put it on flash and bring it to this computer?
[19:32] <sirMajid> emorris, I just installed kdevelop
[19:32] <emorris> Flannel: it would be more advisable to use a live CD to edit it,
[19:32] <domino14> hey guys is there an easy way to compare two directories for differences?
[19:32] <emorris> sirMajid: that's not a question
[19:32] <Kevin`> kevin3: oh, you don't have ANY networking?
[19:32] <sirMajid> emorris, I'm sayin
[19:32] <domino14> i want to see what files are in my directory here that arent on the backup on my external hd
[19:32] <kevin3> well...
[19:32] <sirMajid> emorris, and I also installed c++ reference
[19:32] <kevin3> i dont know
[19:32] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[19:32] <kevin3> i mean it worked on all of my windows machines
[19:32] <ambro951> is it possible to install kde 3.5 in kubuntu?
[19:32] <bryant> TwoD, ah yes, i see! thank you. learning new stuff everyday.
[19:33] <Kevin`> kevin3: don't you have an ethernet cable you can plug in while setting it up?
[19:33] <TwoD> bryant, yw =)
[19:33] <sirMajid> emorris, In the description it was written that the reference is created to use with kdevelop
[19:33] <mixxon> any ideas how to get skype working well under ubuntu 8.10 amd64?
[19:33] <Kevin`> kevin3: relaying things via usb could get annoying
[19:33] <maestro444> rmn: and when i add an additional drive.. can i easily extend lvm and crypto-part? is it possible too?
[19:33] <simi> hi , i installed amarok2 in kubuntu 8.10 and i have no sound in it, i searched for a fix i found this topic but i am not sure what to do, i do not want to break anything, other apps have sound
[19:33] <kevin3> used the linksys drivers then typed in the long string of letters and numbers and it connected
[19:33] <kebomix> emorris: i began to hate ubuntu 8,10 before using it :@  , i had this error while loading on live before install http://paste.ubuntu.com/65357/ , i thought the wrong on cd cuz i burned on high speed , and i tried it on lowest speed and still have same error
[19:33] <kevin3> ya its what i have been doing...the comp is a ways from my router
[19:34] <rmn> maestro444, how would you add that drive, and for what purpose?  there is limited space in the eee, isn't there?
[19:34] <sirMajid> emorris, and I don't know how to use the reference in the kdevelop
[19:34] <maestro444> ummmd: as i said .. the problem was that i have to input passphrases twice.. but rmn is showing me that my setup was not the best
[19:34] <sirMajid> emorris, have u used the reference in the kdevelop environment?
[19:34] <kevin3> well maybe ill go paste it in to that nopaste
[19:34] <kevin3> what is that
[19:34] <maestro444> rmn: with an sd card (4 gb)
[19:34] <XThief> Anyone having problems with Broadcom wireless? I got it working on 8.10 RC by installing bw43-fwcutter, but in the final installing bw43-fwcutter the wireless led is on but doesnt find any wifi connection
[19:34] <rmn> maestro444, with lvm on crypt it is easier (at least more elegant) to extend it with additional drives.
[19:34] <emorris> sirMajid: nope, that's why I said ask the channel
[19:35] <rmn> maestro444, i wouldn't extend the lvm with the sd card. instead i would have a separate crypto+filesystem on it (e.g. truecrypt)
[19:35] <sirMajid> emorris, ok have u used the kdevelop? cause I have another question about that?
[19:35] <Kevin`> kevin3: http://rafb.net/p/qpfTna86.html - it does this kinda thing
[19:35] <rmn> maestro444, because it can still be mounted just as in the "old" days
[19:35] <bryant> hardware support for my laptop has finally gottten to the point where i could use ubuntu on it(a far cry from when i first tried linux with fedora, and then ubuntu this time last year) I even finally got rid of vista because I dont have enough time to play my windows games anyways :) I had NO problems runningn 8.1 beta on here other than a WAN issue which was hardware related(fixed it) but i then backed up all my files on a DVD and ins
[19:35] <bryant> talled 8.1 official via .iso and now i have a number of issues
[19:35] <mandelson> hi, im having trouble with my youtube videos and other flash video player
[19:35] <emorris> sirMajid: what did you do to get this error?
[19:35] <emorris> sirMajid: nope
[19:35] <emorris> woops
[19:35] <TheGourdCap> I just upgraded to 8.10 from Hardy, and it replaced the NVIDIA proprietary graphics card driver witth the free NV driver. When it failed to get the proper resolutions, I tried to fix Xorg.conf myself, failed, got the error on boot that it wasn't properly configured. I booted into low resolution mode... but it turns out to have the right resolutions. Any way to save the settings?
[19:35] <emorris> emorris: yes, ask the channel
[19:35] <FloodBot3> emorris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <dohh> hey LjL , you suck !!!
[19:35] <maestro444> rmn: i have this setup.. but i have made lvm logical volumes and not the crypto-part.. .. so now i should delete all things .. encrypt the whole lvm and then make partitions
[19:35] <emorris> sirMajid: ^**
[19:36] <bryant> so why is it that 8.10 is running with more problems than 8.10beta was on the same computer....
[19:36] <XThief> Anyone having problems with Broadcom wireless? I got it working on 8.10 RC by installing bw43-fwcutter, but in the final installing bw43-fwcutter the wireless led is on but doesnt find any wifi connection
[19:36] <maestro444> rmn: why not extending the lvm with the card?
[19:36] <sirMajid> emorris, ok...
[19:36] <lawstudent> hi. I want to install ubuntu from my USB stick. How do I "burn" the ISO file onto the MicroSD/USB drive?
[19:36] <lawstudent> using WinXP?
[19:36] <bryant> i'd downgrade back to LTS but i do love the 3G support
[19:36] <kevin3> this is so complicated, im suprised they release it like this...im not sure why imusing it i guessly because i dont like that i dont want cp to talk to ms because i got its code off the internet
[19:36] <fbn> hi, is there an issue with cooler on 8.10? mine is going on full speed 5 seconds long and then turning of for 1 second and starting again ...
[19:36] <rmn> maestro444, too much work compared to just mounting it.  mostly because i don't consider the SD-card static
[19:36] <sirMajid> is there any programming room for ubuntu?
[19:36] <TwoD> bryant, what kind of issues?
[19:37] <rmn> maestro444, if you will never - "ever" - remove the sd-card, then no problem
[19:37] <kevin3> xp
[19:37] <sirMajid> I mean not just for ubuntu support...about programming in ubuntu
[19:37] <rmn> maestro444, but it might just happen that you would like to empty your pocket cam while on a trip
[19:37] <maestro444> rmn: yes that was my intention .. but are right too..
[19:37] <Kevin`> kevin3: the sob stuff I don't much care about. i've been using linux long enough to know what I can use it for ;)
[19:37] <Flannel> sirMajid: Programming in Ubuntu is the same as programming anywhere else. But #ubuntu-offtopic could be a good place for general questions. Specific language rooms are also good.
[19:37] <fbn> please help ... anybody having cooler issues with 8.10?
[19:38] <sirMajid> Flannel, how can I join specific language rooms?
[19:38] <Skyper> Hello guys...well, when i was installing i put my winxp partition to be mount on /winxp but for sure its not been mounted..so anyone know how can i resolve this?
[19:38] <bryant> twod, well numerous to say the least. lots of little things. e.g. when i was in here earlier while downloading the installation package for EVE Online  the entire desktop froze and my capslock light rapidly flashed on and off. had to hard reboot.
[19:38] <rmn> maestro444, is it the eee-buntu-distro you are running? i have always used the alternate install-disk and used crypto from the beginning.  i have no idea whether eee-buntu makes an alternate disk?
[19:38] <z0d14k> On my Intrepid install on a Lenovo, it thinks I am mirroring my display to a lower resolution display, so the task bars are smaller.  Any ideas how to get gdm and gnome to think I have a full size display?  I fixed it once byt dragging the monitors off eachother, but now I can't even do that....
[19:38] <kevin3> lol im not sobbing its just i dont want to steal from ms i suppose and get caught...i dont have anyone to tell me where to even start
[19:38] <XThief> Anyone having problems with Broadcom wireless? I got it working on 8.10 RC by installing bw43-fwcutter, but in the final installing bw43-fwcutter the wireless led is on but doesnt find any wifi connection
[19:38] <maestro444> rmn: does ubuntu installer support the setup .. which you have discussed with me?
[19:38] <bryant> twod, i guess that isnt THAT little, but i notice more as i'm doing stuff.
[19:38] <kevin3> and i thought ubuntu would help me do that
[19:39] <shipitkthx> having a major problem after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10. After login i'm getting stuck on the orange screen, and get can't get anywhere, can anyone help troubleshoot?
[19:39] <bryant> twod, i've had the update manager CTD a few times
[19:39] <TwoD> bryant, well that's a kernel panic. I get LOTS of those if I try to read (not when writing!) files on one of my NTFS disks, which I know has damaged clusters.
[19:39] <mandelson> Hi, I need help with my Java installation
[19:39] <rmn> maestro444, yes, all except the usb-keyfile-stuff that you must fix manually afterwards.
[19:39] <amews_aj> How do I install the nvidia proprietary driver on ibex ? It is not in the hardware drivers windows as in hardy..
[19:39] <compengi> sirMajid, define "specific language rooms"
[19:39] <Kevin`> kevin3: I used to recommend starting with slackware, but that's getting a little bit dated.. it's good if your objective is learning more then using
[19:39] <maestro444> rmn: at the moment i am using kubuntu..
[19:39] <rmn> maestro444, ok, then it shouldn't be a problem
[19:39] <kevin3> but it isint working out considering i cant even do some really really really basic processes without progreamming
[19:39] <Guest27765> i have this problem. i can't hear anything from the internet...
[19:39] <silvestre> hi every one
[19:39] <silvestre> need some help
[19:39] <bryant> ah, i have no NTFS disks. i completely wiped windows. everything is ext3
[19:39] <ChurleyEater> Anyone have any experience installing an Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Card on Ubuntu 8.10?  I've tried several step-by-step isntructions, and nothing has worked.  Probably because I'm more noob than noob.
[19:39] <Armada> amews_aj, which card are you using?
[19:39] <Kevin`> kevin3: your not doing any programming.
[19:39] <Guest27765> can anyone help me with that?
[19:39] <kevin3> if i paste that crap in will someone be able to tell me how to fix this
[19:39] <amews_aj> Armada: Nvidia Geforce Go440
[19:39] <maestro444> rmn: so i can make partitions with crypto with installer?
[19:39] <Kevin`> kevin3: getting a device list isn't programming :/
[19:39] <rmn> maestro444, i'm having dinner now, but i would very much like to discuss your setup in further detail in just shy of an hour, if that is possible?
[19:39] <sirMajid> compengi, I mean how can I join for example to c++ language room?
[19:39] <compengi> silvestre, maybe you'd ask your question?
[19:40] <z0d14k> amews_aj: apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[19:40] <rmn> maestro444, yes you can.  but messing with the lvm-bit is a royal pain.  possible, but a pain
[19:40] <amews_aj> z0d14k: kk
[19:40] <Esaj> wow, busy today
[19:40] <compengi> sirMajid, ##C++
[19:40] <Yimpolo> 0
[19:40] <Armada> amews_aj, that should show up if not you can install them manually
[19:40] <sonichammer> Hey
[19:40] <Guest27765> hiiii
[19:40] <kebomix> Armada: how to install ubuntu from usb flash memory instead of cd ?
[19:40] <maestro444> rmn: yes it is possible.. will stay in channel
[19:40] <wolfwalker_omega> !riva
[19:40] <TheGourdCap> How would one install the restricted driver for a Geforce 4MX?
[19:40] <wolfwalker_omega> !envy
[19:40] <amews_aj> Armada: And how manually ? aptget nvidia-glx-177 ??
[19:40] <kevin3> ok well maybe you can automate this process for me
[19:40] <maestro444> rmn: ok .. then i should do it manually
[19:40] <kevin3> my internet is right here
[19:40] <kevin3> i want it over there
[19:40] <wolfwalker_omega> Feh
[19:40] <Guest27765> helloooooooooo
[19:40] <kevin3> i have passwords
[19:40] <Kevin`> kevin3: automate the process of determining what network card you actually have? :)
[19:40] <z0d14k> amews_aj: That might be too new a an nvidia driver for your card.  Do apt-cache search nvidia-glx and apt-cache show nvidia-glx-### for info about the options.
[19:40] <rkvirani> \q
[19:40] <sirMajid> comengi, tnx man
[19:41] <Skyper> Hello guys...well, when i was installing i put my winxp partition to be mount on /winxp but for sure its not been mounted..so anyone know how can i resolve this?
[19:41] <kevin3> i use linksys with speed boost i can get the model number
[19:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: linksys changes chipsets within models
[19:41] <_Carrie_> Hello, I can no longer go into Gnome unless it's fail safe. Theres an issue with my VGA and I don't know what? My VGA card is an nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2) can someone help?
[19:41] <bryant> is there a shortcut available to bring up the "force quit" application available via the gnome panels? you know, in the case that an application misbehaves and you're unable to access the damn button to click it :)
[19:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: it's more useful to get the listing from the system
[19:41] <kevin3> i have three ndis related apps installed
[19:41] <koruptid> thefool, well... I did a lot more digging and it seems that 1.0.18 of alsa should have the fix implemented... but I can't find anywhere where there's a package
[19:41] <lucax> is there any nautilus plugin to search from nautilus panel?
[19:41] <TwoD> bryant, ok, then it's probably something else. Most likely hardware related as it gets to a kernel panic, I'm no expert on kernel panics, but I think it's possible to get a crash dump when it occurss, then someone could perhaps trace it back to the driver/program crashing.
[19:41] <kevin3> ok tell me the command to get the code
[19:41] <Guest27765> :(
[19:41] <bryant> or just a keycombo to end the current process of the window you're in
[19:41] <compengi> silvestre, it would be better to ask your question in the channel :)
[19:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: lspci -nn
[19:41] <kevin3> how do i coppy that output to a dile
[19:41] <kevin3> copy
[19:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: lspci -nn >file.txt
[19:41] <kevin3> file
[19:41] <kevin3> thank you
[19:41] <amews_aj> z0d14k: How can I see what I need for my card?
[19:41] <W_S> Skyper: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /winxp
[19:41] <kevin3> where wil it go
[19:42] <compengi> silvestre, what problem do you have exactly
[19:42] <Kevin`> kevin3: home directory most likely
[19:42] <bryant> twod, ah, thanks. i need to make a launchpad account for this stuff.
[19:42] <shipitkthx> anyone know why 8.10 would freeze at the orange screen after login? (just upgraded from 8.04)
[19:42] <z0d14k> Skyper: have you tried `sudo mount /winxp` ?
[19:42] <Kevin`> kevin3: it will go where you currently are
[19:42] <TwoD> bryant, don't think so. But I have added an icon to force-crashing a program to one of my panels. It's there if you right click and "add to panel".
[19:42] <z0d14k> amews_aj: apt-cache show nvidia-glx-177 shows which cards are supported by that driver.
[19:42] <bryant> does this support channel happen to have subchannels for specific issues? it would make things alot less hectic
[19:42] <Yimpolo> This is a really stupid question, but how do I make my changes with ifconfig and route persistent? Every time I reboot, I lose my settings
[19:42] <amews_aj> z0d14k: Can't I see from synaptic ?
[19:43] <compengi> kebomix, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html
[19:43] <z0d14k> amews_aj: Yes.  It should be in the package summary.
[19:43] <bryant> twod, yes i have it as well. but sometimes i'm unable to alt-tab out of a program to force quit it, and i have to resort to less hardware-friendly measures
[19:43] <silvestre> here's the problem with update manager:
[19:43] <silvestre> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.43_i386.deb: failed to unlink `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic/include/config/auto.conf.cmd.dpkg-new'
[19:43] <TwoD> bryant, you could also use ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the terminal, if the window manager froze and you can't start xterm, and then try "killall appname"
[19:43] <kevin3> be right bacvk
[19:44] <kebomix> compengi: thanks very much
[19:44] <ChrisBoo1wood> Does any body know of a light version of the Dust theme? I know there's one in the dust offical wiki page, but that has not been worked on for ages. I'm looking for something on that kind of light grey version of Dust, though
[19:44] <Yimpolo> This is a really stupid question, but how do I make my changes with ifconfig and route persistent? Every time I reboot, I lose my settings
[19:44] <Skyper> z0d14k: works but this way will mount automatically everytime?
[19:44] <amews_aj> z0d14k: Can't I search in the summary ?
[19:44] <amews_aj> z0d14k: Difficult to seperate all the card numbers
[19:44] <E-XtraCt> How can I change the beep from the PC's speaker to the headphones ?
[19:44] <Kevin`> Yimpolo: /etc/network/interfaces or networkmanager config
[19:44] <rkvirani> Is it better for security to compile services like apache and ldap from scratch or use binary packages?
[19:44] <z0d14k> amews_aj: Not sure.  I haven't used synaptics in years.....  I just use apt from CLI....  Maybe somebody else here knows more about synaptic and how it works/what it does.
[19:44] <compengi> kebomix, my pleasure
[19:45] <titusg> is it possible to disable the scrolling on the touchpad of a laptop? I would much rather do without it.
[19:45] <silvestre> can anybody help me
[19:45] <Kevin`> rkvirani: packages, since you get security updates 'automatically'
[19:45] <kevin3> bash:blabvlablalspcinn command not found
[19:45] <rkvirani> Kevin`: sounds good
[19:45] <rkvirani> thanks
[19:45] <Flannel> amews_aj: Description is summary, yes.
[19:45] <shipitkthx> my system is currently unusable after upgrading to 8.10, is there anyone that can help troubleshoot?
[19:45] <Acedip> hey everyone, i want to install multiple distros on my machine, running hardy currently, but would like to try debian and mandriva etc.i tried earlier but couldnt succeed..
[19:45] <csilk> !ask | silvestre
[19:45] <titusg> I can disable the touchpad altogether but not just the scrolling
[19:45] <tleylaxu> no desktop effects under intrepid?
[19:45] <WelshDragon> Since upgrading, booting up hangs for about 4 minutes at Configuring Network Devices... Chipset is Intel 3945ABG. Any idea how to fix?
[19:45] <Kevin`> kevin3: whereis lspci
[19:45] <silvestre> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.43_i386.deb: failed to unlink `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic/include/config/auto.conf.cmd.dpkg-new'
[19:45] <Kevin`> kevin3: then give the full path, like /sbin/lspci -nn
[19:46] <velko> silvestre, have you tried to delete (unlink) the file manually?
[19:46] <z0d14k> Skyper: If that worked, it should be in /etc/fstab.  If you edit /etc/fstab make sure that there isn't an option that says noauto for your XP partition.  Other than that it should "Just work(tm)"
[19:46] <kevin3> where would i look for that
[19:46] <E-XtraCt> How can I change the beep from the PC's speaker to the headphones ?
[19:46] <silvestre> no
[19:46] <Kevin`> kevin3: whereis lspci
[19:46] <kevin3> oh
[19:46] <sirMajid> compengi, do u know a good room for java?
[19:46] <gianxINTELLI> ciao
[19:46] <kevin3> so type that
[19:46] <Flannel> WelshDragon: you need to install... oh, let me find you a link. http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/10/intrepid-update-faq.html  see #8
[19:46] <h4x0r> i have my linux version connected to a windows xp computer i used to see the xp computer in my linux computer and now i can not see it. what cut be?
[19:46] <kevin3> then type the dir. then type -nn txt
[19:46] <silvestre> velko, how do i delete it
[19:47] <amews_aj> thx
[19:47] <Kevin`> kevin3: /sbin/lspci -nn >something.txt
[19:47] <EarthWorm44> OMG Ubuntu 8.10 is outstanding!
[19:47] <asdfman1> anyone else have a hard time installing proprietary drivers for nvidia on latest ubuntu?
[19:47] <tleylaxu> ubuntu devs,bring back Xmms
[19:47] <velko> silvestre, sudo rm /path/to/the/file
[19:47] <amews_aj> EarthWorm44: what is so much better than hardy ?
[19:47] <TwoD> shipitkthx, how far does it get when booting?
[19:47] <EarthWorm44> I love the DarkRoom Theme xD lol
[19:47] <shipitkthx> TwoD i get to the login screen, I login, it goes to orange, i can move the cursor around, nothing else
[19:48] <Kevin`> kevin3: there's another way we could do this, just do lspci -nn, and tell me if you see any of broadcom, atheros, ralink, etc, or '802.11'
[19:48] <mohbana> why aren't my terminal fonts being hinted?
[19:48] <Kevin`> kevin3: all that's important is a simple model number of the chipset
[19:48] <sirMajid> does anybody know a good room for java programming?
[19:48] <michalski-bj> hello, I'm having a bit of a problem with my wireless connection, the system seems to be detecting the adapter, but it doesnt seem to want to use it.....
[19:48] <Flannel> sirMajid: ##java
[19:48] <asdfman1> my system just hangs when attempting to install nvidia proprietary video drivers... doesn't seem to want to download
[19:48] <TwoD> shipitkthx, was it like that just after the upgrade?
[19:48] <shipitkthx> yes
[19:48] <tleylaxu> is no desktop effect under intrepid?
[19:48] <Acedip> i want to install multiple distros on my machine, running hardy currently, but would like to try debian and mandriva etc.i tried earlier but couldnt succeed..can anyone help me do it
[19:48] <TwoD> shipitkthx, tried the safe mode?
[19:48] <Goosemoose> anyone know how to make a clickable icon that executes a script (i'm making an icon that runs a java program)
[19:49] <Kevin`> kevin3: actually look at the output for something that looks like a wireless card
[19:49] <asdfman1> anyone else struggling with installation of nvidia drivers?
[19:49] <tleylaxu> yes
[19:49] <sirMajid> Flannel, tnx:)
[19:49] <shipitkthx> TwoD, yes
[19:49] <amews_aj> wow, package server is quite slow here
[19:49] <Koordin> hi, does someone have an idea about a good ocr ?
[19:49] <z0d14k> asdfman1: What problems are you having?  apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 worked great for me.
[19:49] <amews_aj> asdfman1: I am
[19:49] <asdfman1> i'll try that
[19:49] <TwoD> shipitkthx, what's in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:49] <marrow> Hi
[19:49] <EarthWorm44> I love the DarkRoom theme ^^
[19:49] <thomc> What happens if you schedule a cron job for a certain time, but your system is switched off during that time?
[19:49] <domino14> test
[19:49] <amews_aj> asdfman1: But I think it works after installing nvidia-glx-96 (the one for my card)
[19:49] <marrow> Maybe you guys could help me
[19:49] <domino14> i cant get starcraft properly working on wine; it doesnt connect to battle.net
[19:50] <z0d14k> asdfman1: Make sure that is the right version of the driver for your card.  Do apt-cache show nvidia-glx-177 to make sure you have the right version.
[19:50] <kevin3> theres a space before nn
[19:50] <domino14> pubes
[19:50] <TwoD> thomc, nothing =P (I think it runs later tho, not sure(
[19:50] <Kevin`> kevin3: yes, there is..
[19:50]  * jt66 is away: I'm busy
[19:50] <Koordin> hi, does someone have an idea about a good ocr ?
[19:50] <amews_aj> will http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[19:50] <shipitkthx> twoD, u want me to copy it? i'm on a Windows XP laptop right now, not even sure how i would post it
[19:50] <amews_aj> be http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main for ibex ?
[19:50] <NicEXE> when I try to mount a newly created ext3 partition (I deleted the old one and made a new one) I am prompted the following message "Unable to mount the volume. mount: mount point swap does not exist" whats wrong?
[19:50] <Flannel> amews_aj: What?
[19:50] <shipitkthx> i ran the x-fix, it didn't do anything
[19:51] <amews_aj> Flannel: that deb
[19:51] <TwoD> shipitkthx, ok, so you have no access to it? You could post it via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:51] <amews_aj> the software source
[19:51] <pisecx> Hi all. Could anybody create a google talk account in pidgin? (8.10)
[19:51] <mohbana> why aren't my terminal fonts being hinted?
[19:51] <Flannel> amews_aj: For what?
[19:51] <kevin3> do i just need to link? http://rafb.net/p/MFHDJm40.html
[19:51] <marrow> Hi. After intrepid upgrade, my laptop's Volume functions keys are messed up. Either it puts on full volume, or it decreases it fully
[19:51] <velko> NicEXE, strange. which command gives you this error?
[19:51] <TwoD> NicEXE, you need to create the folder where it should be mounted.
[19:51] <h4x0r>  i have my linux version connected to a windows xp computer i used to see the xp computer in my linux computer and now i can not see it. what cut be?
[19:51] <Acedip> thomc, nothing happens, the job will run when the machine is on the next time
[19:51] <amews_aj> Flannel: when I need KDE4 for ubuntu (know there is kubuntu) then the top link was for hardy heron, will the last one mentioned be for ibex ?
[19:51] <michalski-bj> anyone able to help me w/ wireless?
[19:51] <shipitkthx> i have no way of copying it to there, i can't get my livecd to boot either
[19:51] <TheGourdCap> I tried to install the nvidia-glx-96 package and got a bunch of DKMS errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/65365/ is the text apt-get produced. Any suggestions?
[19:51] <amews_aj> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main   ->    http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[19:52] <willowdale> can anyone recommend the best email client for ubuntu
[19:52] <amews_aj> replaced hardy with intrepid
[19:52] <mohbana> it's impossible to get help on this channel. it's way too full
[19:52] <sirMajid> isn't there any room for C# programming?
[19:52] <michalski-bj> willowdale: evolution
[19:52] <amews_aj> sirMajid: ##csharp
[19:52] <thomc> Acedip: Ok, thanks. So it'll run at the next scheduled time, but not straight after you boot or something?
[19:52] <Koordin> hi, does someone have an idea about a good ocr ?
[19:52] <NicEXE> i did a right click and salected the mount command
[19:52] <fbc> help! I can't upgrade. I was in the middle of downloading packages during the upgrade process.. now when I try to restart it, it wants to do a partial upgrade.. how can I fix this?
[19:52] <domino14> hi how do i find the difference between two directories ? i just want to see what fles are different, i dont need to compare the files themselves, just filenames
[19:52] <Kevin`> kevin3: ok, do the same for lsmod
[19:52] <willowdale> thank you ichalski
[19:52] <silvestre> thx velko
[19:52] <compengi> sirMajid, join #freenode and they would help you out with your questions
[19:52] <amews_aj> sirMajid: This is probably not a good channel for C# development, microsoft thing
[19:52] <kevin3> should i whereis or will
[19:53] <Flannel> amews_aj: For intrepid, KDE4 is in the regular repositories.
[19:53] <michalski-bj> domino14: the diff command might be able to help
[19:53] <Kevin`> kevin3: that card should be supported using an included driver (no need for ndiswrapper), so I want to see what the state is
[19:53] <amews_aj> Flannel: oh
[19:53] <Flannel> amews_aj: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and you'll have it.
[19:53] <mohbana> it's impossible to get help on this channel. it's way too full
[19:53] <mohbana> why aren't my terminal fonts being hinted?
[19:53] <kevin3> whereis lsmod
[19:53] <amews_aj> Flannel: And that would be 4.1 and not 4.0 ?
[19:53] <Flannel> !repeat | mohbana
[19:53] <Kevin`> kevin3: if it doesn't work the first time, sure
[19:53] <kevin3> and did i mess things up using wrapper
[19:53] <bryant> twod, same thing happened as earlier sigh. i guess i'll just try not to run too many read/write processes at the same time
[19:53] <velko> kevin3, /sbin
[19:53] <amews_aj> Flannel: on hardy I did kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:53] <Flannel> amews_aj: Yes.  You can ask more specific questions in #kubuntu, but I do know its 4.1
[19:54] <silici0> quit
[19:54] <TwoD> shipitkthx, ok. I'd really need to be at the computer to be able to see what could be wrong, sorry...
[19:54] <Mixed_--_> anyone familiar with wireless security?  I am researching on the wireless security, like WEP
[19:54] <Flannel> amews_aj: right, because Hardy had both 3 and 4, Intrepid only has 4
[19:54] <aaron_> trying to configure sendmail.....I can't send email out to internet...can someone help?
[19:54] <amews_aj> Flannel: ok, thx
[19:54] <Kevin`> Mixed_--_: yes
[19:54] <michalski-bj> Mixed: try google
[19:54] <kevin3> do i need -nn
[19:54] <TwoD> bryant, what exactly did you do=
[19:54] <magnetron> !anyone | Mixed_--_
[19:54] <Aidan1> Hello
[19:54] <Kevin`> kevin3: no
[19:54] <Acedip> thomc, ya. It will run on the time it is scheduled to run, if the machine is off then it will do the job when the machine is on, at the scheduled job time
[19:54] <kevin3> lsmod>bla.txt
[19:54] <kevin3> any spaces
[19:54] <Aidan1> i have a question and im rather stuck
[19:54] <velko> aaron_, do you really need sendmail? why not try something easier like postfix?
[19:54] <thomc> Acedip: Ok, thanks.
[19:55] <NicEXE> when I right click to a newly created ext3 partition volume-icon and click to mount I am prompted the following message "Unable to mount the volume. mount: mount point swap does not exist" whats wrong?
[19:55] <jens_> Can somebody help me? I don't have any sliders in volume control :s
[19:55] <sirMajid>  compengi, what is #freenode good for?
[19:55] <Kevin`> kevin3: that should work without spaces, but get used to using them. the first "word" is the command
[19:55] <reconn> hi, since I installed nvidia drivers on my noteook. I cant switch to my external monitor. in "screen resolution" it says: monitor unknown
[19:55] <reconn> what can I do?
[19:55] <compengi> sirMajid, it's this network's support channel
[19:55] <bryant> twod, i was about to reply to you and everything simply stopped moving, and my numlock/capslock lights flashed. i was downloading files again while installing a package. also playing some music on rhythmbox while browsing the web :/
[19:55] <MaT-dg> How can I disable the bottom and top face from the cube in compiz (intrepid)?
[19:55] <Aidan1> how do i get a question resolved , my syste,
[19:55] <n8tuser> jens_-> log out and log in again, see if it makes a difference
[19:55] <jens_> ok ty, n8tuser
[19:55] <h4x0r> whoever help me can you repeat again
[19:55] <TwoD> bryant, ok, all this to the same hdd? Or do you have more?
[19:55] <velko> NicEXE, i don't know where you click. but what happens if you execute "sudo mount /dev/<your new partition> /mnt/folder" ?
[19:56] <jens_> Is CTRL-ALT-BCKSPACE ok?
[19:56] <Aidan1> my system hangs for about 2 minutes when saving a link or pic
[19:56] <sirMajid>  compengi, so why do u suggest me to ask my questions in network channel...did I ask a network related question?
[19:56] <noisek79> swe help where?
[19:56] <h4x0r>  i have my linux version connected to a windows xp computer i used to see the xp computer in my linux computer and now i can not see it. what cut be?
[19:56] <compengi> sirMajid, aren't we a part of this network?
[19:56] <noisek79> Swedish help where?
[19:57] <Pacas_> is there any fix for the network manager applet disappearing after an upgrade to 8.10?
[19:57] <velko> h4x0r, is there any connection between you nick and your question?
[19:57] <bryant> twod, i have 2 HDD. a 120gb which is the one i boot from, and an 80gb one which is contains everything in the home folder
[19:57] <Flannel> !se | noisek79
[19:57] <sirMajid>  compengi, what?
[19:57] <h4x0r> yes
[19:57] <kevin3> http://rafb.net/p/0Okhfu82.html
[19:57] <Mixed_--_> magnetron, I read that WEP is not good enough, what else could I use besides WEP???  On a side note, I was unable to configure my distro to work with WEP enabled on my linksys router
[19:57] <aaron_> I have never used postfix
[19:57] <h4x0r> i am running the internet from
[19:57] <aaron_> can you guide me in how to configure
[19:57] <sirMajid>  compengi, oh...I got what u mean
[19:57] <bryant> twod, both ext3 journaling filesystems, and the 120gb has a 4gb swap partition
[19:57] <sirMajid>  compengi, ok tnx
[19:57] <phyphor> hi, just tried to upgrade a desktop system from 8.04 to 8.10 and on reboot /dev/null is now being reset with permissions 600, but udev is set up correctly. I'd rather try and fix it properly than rely on an rc.local fix as a workaround - any ideas?
[19:57] <ConstantineXVI> Mixed_--_: WPA or WPA2, whatever your router supports
[19:57] <TwoD> noisek79, pm me, I might be able to help in Swedish
[19:57] <amews_aj> Flannel: After doing apt-get install nvidia-glx-96 It fails to load the nvidia driver, why ?
[19:57] <Kevin`> kevin3: ok, the normal driver isn't loaded. do ndiswrapper -l and iwconfig
[19:58] <magnetron> Mixed_--_→ use WPA
[19:58] <TwoD> bryant, ok. Have you run a disk check on them?
[19:58] <amews_aj> Flannel: My card was mentioned in the description
[19:58] <Flannel> phyphor: Check bugreports about it.  If there isn't one, file one.
[19:58] <Flannel> amews_aj: I have no idea
[19:58] <Kevin`> kevin3: oh wait, it is
[19:58] <bryant> twod, i'm mildly competent in computers but i'm hardly technically enlightened. quite the quintessential linuxn00b.
[19:58] <XThief> Anyone having problems with Broadcom wireless? I got it working on 8.10 RC by installing bw43-fwcutter, but in the final installing bw43-fwcutter the wireless led is on but doesnt find any wifi connection
[19:58] <kris_> Gah, Xen isn't easily setup on 8.10, vmware breaks when I try to install it, and KVM is a heaping pile so far.
[19:58] <Kevin`> kevin3: still do those
[19:58] <kevin3> one then the other?
[19:58] <Kevin`> yes
[19:58] <amews_aj> Flannel: It freezes before loginscreen. help!
[19:58] <Mixed_--_> magnetron, which one is better, WEP or WPA???
[19:58] <bryant> twod, no, but will
[19:58] <magnetron> Mixed_--_→ your linksys router supports both WEP and WPA, i'm sure, as long as it's made in the 21st century
[19:58] <magnetron> Mixed_--_→ wpa
[19:58] <NicEXE> velko: ok is now mounted
[19:58] <phyphor> Flannel: there are various bug reports about similar symptoms for previous upgrades but I'm not sure if it's a new bug or not
[19:59] <jltorrente> why should i remove sys when doing a tar backup?
[19:59] <Mixed_--_> magnetron, thanks, when I get home I'm going to try WPA and see what happens
[19:59] <koruptid> anybody know how to configure sudo to not require a password? (I have done this before but don't remember the process)
[19:59] <Flannel> phyphor: well, report it, if its not new, it'll be marked as such.
[19:59] <ConstantineXVI> kris_: have you tried VirtualBox yet?
[19:59] <Flannel> koruptid: Why do you want to do that?
[19:59] <gyven> XThief make sure you have the proper firmware loaded, as broadcomm have both a driver AND firmware that must match and be supported to function. Look into linuxant (see google)
[19:59] <mib_fadkgl> Is anyone having problems booting 8.10? I'm using a DP43TF mother board, CoreDuo and when I try to boot to live CD or Install, I receive "BUG: Int 6: CR2 00000000 ..." Anyone else seen this?
[19:59] <kris_> ConstantineXVI: This is for a server, not a desktop.
[19:59] <velko> jltorrente, sys is a virtual folder, not a real one. like /proc
[19:59] <King_Kickass> the fukin update asks for something every 2 minutes, so I have to attend the damn install process for like 2 hours
[19:59] <magnetron> Mixed_--_→ make sure to enable it *in*your*router* first, not in the PC
[19:59] <Flannel> !language | King_Kickass
[19:59] <ConstantineXVI> kris_: oh, carry on then
[19:59] <ay^> virtualbox works like a charm for me
[19:59] <King_Kickass> ok ok
[20:00] <jltorrente> ok
[20:00] <kris_> ay^: on a server? how is performance ..
[20:00] <koruptid> Flannel, because I sudo a lot, I'm not incredibly worried about security with my user account, and it is annoying as hell to require a password for an action I intended to do in the first place
[20:00] <mib_fadkgl> *An intel DP43TF mobo
[20:00] <kris_> I need to split up my server into around 5 servers
[20:00] <bryant> twod, odd. i oppened up the ubuntu help center and it crashed immediately. all it showed was the window bar at the top and a copy of the current view of windows behind it where the page should've been, as well as a black background with a pattern of random RGB dots. quickly force-quitted it and ran again and it runs fine now
[20:00] <ay^> kris_: no, this is on a laptop with "normal" ubuntu
[20:00] <XB23> kris use vmware
[20:00] <gyven> King_Kickass: You could always choose to download an ISO, wipe your install and reinstall, that would be less-attended.
[20:00] <XThief> gyven it doesnt install the firmware automatically?
[20:00] <Flannel> King_Kickass: It asks you about replacing config files, correct?
[20:00] <King_Kickass> yes right
[20:01] <amerinese> anyone have trouble getting an nvidia driver working on intrepid (177)?  previously working in hardy...
[20:01] <kris_> XB23: I am trying but doing an `apt-get install vmware-server' throws me an error at the end.
[20:01] <asdfman2> how do i point grub to the correct drive?  or more general... how do i get ubuntu to boot without having to use the boot cd?  the menu.lst is different in this new version
[20:01] <tonisius> How do I find out what distro I have installed on my machine?
[20:01] <Flannel> King_Kickass: right, well, I'm not sure there's anything you can do about it right now,but in the future you can tell it to assume yes, etc.
[20:01] <fonzarelli> is bash using 80% + CPU for anyone else using Ibex?
[20:01] <kris_> tonisius: lsb_release -a
[20:01] <Flannel> tonisius: lsb_release -a
[20:01] <tonisius> uname shows me the kernel information, and some basics, but not the distro
[20:01] <tonisius> ok, nvm
[20:01] <tonisius> thanks =D
[20:01] <TwoD> bryant, random guess here, but could it be a RAM issue? Or perhaps related to the graphics card. Those graphichs bugs might be a clue..
[20:01] <michalski-bj> help---hey is there anyone here with knowledge about wireless troubleshooting?
[20:01] <carlos> hola  alguien  habla  español
[20:01] <gyven> XThief no, you have to load it as well, only if you are experience the problem that you are. It is an either or, either it works fantastically, or you will have a PITA getting it going. With my experience from both of my desktop PCI wireless Nics, I had the PITA...
[20:01] <jens_> Got a question ;) Is my Xorg config still ok after upgrade ? :)
[20:02] <gyven> experiencing*
[20:02] <Flannel> !es | carlos
[20:02] <sqrammi> Is there anything like /var/lib/portage/world in ubuntu?
[20:02] <aaron> ok I installed post fix
[20:02] <Flannel> sqrammi: What is that?
[20:02] <Kevin`> !anyone | michalski-bj
[20:02] <mib_fadkgl> Has anyone else run across problems booting? A bug immediately after trying to boot: "BUG: Int 6..."
[20:02] <aaron> mail working internally ok
[20:02] <Aidan1> My system hangs for about 3 minutes when i try to save an image or link from a webpage , can anyone help ?
[20:02] <asdfman2> menu.lst is different here... anyone willing to hold my hand with an edit?
[20:02] <aaron> how about externally
[20:02] <satonio> buenas
[20:02] <sqrammi> Flannel: it is a list of package that were installed since the base install
[20:02] <carlos> ok  es  primera  ves
[20:02] <satonio> el raton se me mueve solo
[20:02] <carlos> que  entro  buscare
[20:02] <Flannel> satonio: /join #ubuntu-es
[20:02] <fonzarelli> is bash using 80% + CPU for anyone else using Ibex?
[20:02] <Flannel> carlos ^
[20:02] <satonio> thank you
[20:03] <koruptid> Flannel, now that we've gotten the "why" out of the way.... any ideas on what I need to add to PAM?
[20:03] <magnetron> fonzarelli→ maybe
[20:03] <sqrammi> Flannel: for example, if I installed build-essential after installing ubuntu, all I want to know is that I installed build-essential.  I don't want to know that I installed gcc, linux-headers, etc. etc.
[20:03] <Flannel> koruptid: Don't need to touch pam, just edit ssudoers
[20:03] <bryant> twod, i've been thinking that for a while, but i dont know WHY its having issues. i have a geforce 8600M card on an HP pavillion dv9000 with the most up-to-date driver and i didnt have any graphical issues on 8.04 LTS or 8.10beta when i had multiple OS installed
[20:03] <Kevin`> kevin3: for future reference, you should remember that you have a broadcom bcm4318 card
[20:03] <kevin3> first
[20:03] <phoenix3051> fonzarelli: no problems with bash here
[20:03] <Flannel> sqrammi: Ah.  Mmm, no, I don't believe there is.  Or at least, I'm not awware of one
[20:03] <kevin3> http://rafb.net/p/XoFKxW98.html
[20:04] <fonzarelli> thanks phoenix3051
[20:04] <kevin3> thanks
[20:04] <bryant> twod, i think i might just downgrade for a while until some of the kinks are worked out in 8.10
[20:04] <Flannel> !away > PeterEH
[20:04] <bryant> twod, at least for my hardware :(
[20:04] <velko> sqrammi, dpkg --get-selections
[20:04] <Armada> my /usr/share/sounds has damaged audio files in it, could someone give me good files?
[20:04] <kevin3> http://rafb.net/p/pzLP6W73.html
[20:04] <kevin3> config
[20:04] <asdfman2> anyone: can you help me get ubuntu to boot from the hd?  menu.lst looks different in this version
[20:04] <sqrammi> Flannel: basically, to install the standard ubuntu desktop system, all you have to do is install ubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <Stettin> bryant: did you have any problems getting sound working on your dv9000? i have a dv6500, which I think has the same sound hardware, but had lots of fits with 7.10 and 8.04
[20:04] <koruptid> Flannel: I assume I need to chmod -r first?
[20:05] <TwoD> bryant, maybe a good idea if you don't feel like reinstalling again. Not easy to find the source of problems like that when no hardware has changed recently...
[20:05] <ay^> kris_: if you try virtualbox know that the one in the reops (still I know only of normal ubuntu) is the OSE and doesn't contain all the stuff the nonOSE does
[20:05] <Flannel> koruptid: No?
[20:05] <Kevin`> kevin3: ls -l /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver
[20:05] <kevin3> i ran those as well thinking i was supposed to command them but i outputted them to home after it did nothing
[20:05] <aguitel> anyway to upgrade office 2.4 to 3.0 in intrepid ?
[20:05] <Kevin`> kevin3: only the last word is important
[20:05] <bryant> no, no sound problems at all. well one, but its software issue. ALSA driver wont work in eve online(my addiction <3)
[20:05]  * asdfman2 searches for a #grub channel
[20:05] <ay^> aguitel: there are tutorials all over google
[20:05] <Kevin`> kevin3: so just read it, don't paste it :)
[20:05] <jburd> The DVD torrents are really slow.
[20:05] <kevin3> ok so do that then tell you the last word
[20:05] <Flannel> aguitel: It will be in backports in a bit
[20:05] <Mixed_--_> Armada, how can I send you my files?
[20:05] <kris_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-server_1.0.4-1gutsy2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[20:05] <kris_>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/svg_loader.so', which is also in package ia32-libs
[20:05] <ay^> aguitel: there is even a repo for it
[20:06] <kris_> I can't install vmware because of that
[20:06] <Kevin`> kevin3: it will look something like this:
[20:06] <Stettin> bryant: ah, ok.. was yours a fresh 8.04 install or upgrade from earlier?
[20:06] <Kevin`> xen:~# ls -l /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver
[20:06] <Kevin`> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-10-31 14:56 /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver -> ../../../bus/pci/drivers/forcedeth
[20:06] <bribera> anyone else seeing kernel panics on boot after upgrading?
[20:06] <Kevin`> want "forcedeth"
[20:06] <Mixed_--_> apt-get update
[20:06] <corp> hello
[20:06] <kevin3> k
[20:06] <Strife89> So, any notable upgrade problems arisen yet? :)
[20:06] <bryant> twod, is it possible to downgrade versions from within the synaptic package manager?
[20:06] <aguitel> ay^, thanks
[20:06] <corp> I have just setup my own Ubuntu apt repository locally. How do I get my packages to authenticate?
[20:06] <amews_aj> Flannel: Could it be that the drivers for my gfx is not supported by ibex ?
[20:06] <Armada> Mixed_--_: just pack em in a .zip and sent them directly to me through DCC
[20:06] <asdfman2> Strife89: i'm not sure it's a problem, but i can't boot from my hard drive (have to use cd) and menu.lst is a new format so i don't know how to fix
[20:07] <TwoD> bryant, no, not that I'm aware of.
[20:07] <Flannel> amews_aj: Its possible, but unlikly.  More likely that somethings misconfigured.
[20:07] <giada> ciao
[20:07] <Armada> Mixed_--_: or upload them to rapidshare.com, if you don't know how to send files through IRC
[20:07] <corp> How do I create a repo key and add it to my repo?
[20:07] <amews_aj> Flannel: It is a clean install, fully updated, installed nvidia-glx-96. Reboot
[20:07] <Aidan1> how do i get support ? lol
[20:07] <ay^> speaking of authenticate repos.. whenever I install something from the repos that was upgraded (I have no external repos) they fail and apt complains that it might be fraud. is there a way to get this fixed?
[20:07] <ummmd> i can't get nvidia driver working with my car (nvs 140m) please help.
[20:07] <TwoD> bryant, what I meant was really "if you don't feel like reinstalling the same version..."
[20:08] <Armada> Aidan1, it's right here
[20:08] <amews_aj> Flannel: And why won't it show up in the hardware drivers window ?
[20:08] <Flannel> amews_aj: No idea.  I don't do GUI stuff.
[20:08] <velko> Aidan1, you ask your quesiton and if somebody knows the answer - you get it
[20:08] <kevin3> b43
[20:08] <gyven> Aidan1 ask your question, and you shall receive (maybe)
[20:08] <asdfman2> 24 Hour Instant Support: 1-800-GOO-GLES
[20:08] <Aidan1> :)
[20:08] <Flannel> asdfman2: Please don;t
[20:08] <Aidan1> i have twice and dont want to spam im new to irc lol
[20:08] <Kevin`> kevin3: ok, lets stick with that then.. do this:
[20:09] <asdfman2> Flannel: you wouldn't happen to be familiar with the new menu.lst, would you?  i'm confused by the new format
[20:09] <King_Kickass> the update ask me what I wanna do with smb.conf , should I keep the old or the new?
[20:09] <arun_> I just installed intrepid, I have an intel 945GM chipset. How do I enable the intel driver. heres my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1241867
[20:09] <Kevin`> kevin3: echo "blacklist ndiswrapper" >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:09] <Kevin`> kevin3: note the two >>, that's important
[20:09] <Flannel> asdfman2: You could pastebin it and I could take a look, but no, I haven't seen it yet.
[20:09] <asdfman2> ok
[20:09] <gyven> Aidan1 what is your connection speed? Is it every single link/image? How quickly do the pages load in the first place? AND finally, on-disk install? or live-cd?
[20:09] <velko> Aidan1, so don't waste space with such comments but ask your questions and keep them one one line. all right?
[20:09] <bryant> stettin, i had fresh installs of 8.04 and 8.10beta in my two harddrives with vista running in a partition, they all worked peachy. minor issues in beta but i was just chekcing to see how compatible it would be with my hardware. it was fine other than a WAN adapter problem which is fixed now. in 8.04 i had no issues at all. then because i didnt have any software which would be too difficult to reinstall, I backed up all my documents/vid
[20:09] <bryant> eos/pics/etc. on a few DVDs and did a fresh install of 8.10 yesterday. i repartitioned everything so that I now only have 1 OS but now i'm running into issues i didnt have before and i'm stumped.
[20:09] <asdfman2> i'm sure mine is similar to yours, if you're using the new bunt
[20:09] <Flannel> !blacklist | Kevin`, kevin3
[20:09] <roog> someone with no sound in zattoo at 8.10?
[20:09] <kevin3> use echo as well?
[20:09] <bsm> hi, I'm trying to change my gtk2 theme, but it seems gnome-appearance-properties is not in the reps of my kubuntu
[20:10] <bryant> stettin, so i guess thats a No, I didnt' upgrade-- fresh install on all of 'em
[20:10] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[20:10] <Flannel> asdfman2: I'm not
[20:10] <Kevin`> kevin3: follow ubottu's instruction
[20:10] <Armada> Mixed_--_: are you still there?
[20:10] <photon> Do I still need the alternate installer CD to install with an encrypted root? And does it support installing to USB sticks?
[20:11] <chadeldridge> uuugh .. so many bugs .... network-manager will not save my settings for static IP after a reboot .. what can i do
[20:11] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[20:11] <z0d14k> photon: I am pretty sure you do need the alternate installer.  I had the RC standard liveCD and didn't see that option.
[20:11] <Kevin`> kevin3: the first part of it, load order shouldn't be important
[20:11] <Lr5> My upgrade gets stuck at base-files, it says "find: File system loop detected;" etc; anyone knows how to solve this?
[20:11] <ferfactor> when i start totem in a terminal said me this: ** (totem:6261): DEBUG: Init of Python module
[20:11] <silici0> Does this cron run 3 in 3 hours ? * */3 * * *  /root/rsync-shell.sh
[20:11] <ferfactor> any idea?
[20:11] <asdfman2> Flannel: here's my new menu.lst  http://pastebin.com/m5bb05710
[20:11] <roog> someone with no sound in zattoo at 8.10?
[20:11] <asdfman2> it's a completely new thing
[20:11] <photon> z0d14k: Okay... do you know if the alternate installer supports USB sticks?
[20:11] <asdfman2> ...to me
[20:11] <Armada> my /usr/share/sounds has damaged audio files in it, could someone give me good files?
[20:11] <bryant> twod, well i guess i'll just stick to 8.10 and update as fixes come out.. too much of a hassle to do everything again. the important stuff works fine: openoffice.org things and the media players. thanks for what help you could give me
[20:11] <z0d14k> photon: Dunno.
[20:12] <photon> z0d14k: thanks though
[20:12] <ay^> Lr5: My guess is that there is some sort of link in your system that points to a place that points back to the first one, but thats just a guess
[20:12] <chadeldridge> network-manager will not save my settings for static IP after a reboot .. what can i do
[20:12] <Aidan1> connection speed is 4 Meg , pages load instantly as do images , install is from live cd 7.04 then ive updated to ibex on disk :) the best move
[20:12] <emt> What does gnome-keyring-daemon couldn't lookup keyring...
[20:12] <Flannel> asdfman2: What are you trying to edit with it?
[20:12] <Suhail> Hey guys, debian seems not be able to do things like httpd -S, what's the fix for that?
[20:12] <kevin3> whats module name    b43?
[20:12] <DM___101> How can I replace nautilus with thunar?
[20:12] <silici0> Does this cron run 3 in 3 hours ? * */3 * * *  /root/rsync-shell.sh !?
[20:12] <bribera> seen when booting into 2.6.27-7 on amd-64: PANIC: early execption 0e rip 10:ffffffff00224601 error 0 cr2 ffffffffff5fc0f0
[20:12] <magnetron> Suhail→ debian have their own support channel, see #debian
[20:12] <Kevin`> kevin3: you want to blacklist ndiswrapper, not b43
[20:13] <Suhail> heh
[20:13] <Suhail> okay ubuntu
[20:13] <Suhail> I am using ubuntu
[20:13] <Suhail> installed apache2
[20:13] <Aidan1> install is on disk , connection speed is 4Meg , pages load instantly and so do images , im running 8:10 ibex
[20:13] <FloodBot3> Suhail: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> DM___101: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[20:13] <Armada> my /usr/share/sounds has damaged audio files in it, could someone give me good files?
[20:13] <Tundrayeti312> !enter | Suhail
[20:13] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[20:13] <gyven> Aidan1 what process are you using to save the image or link, does the same problem occur with HTTP downloads (of apps/tarballs)? Saving to disk or external mount point?
[20:13] <magnetron> Suhail→ you just said you were using debian.
[20:13] <chadeldridge> network-manager will not save my settings for static IP after a reboot .. what can i do
[20:13] <phoenix3051> Armada: I can send them to you
[20:13] <Suhail> magnetron: Isn't ubuntu based off debian?
[20:13] <z0d14k> Armada: Why not grab them from a liveCD?
[20:13] <magnetron> Suhail→ are you using debian or not?
[20:13] <kevin3> why do i want to do this, what do i do after?
[20:13] <Tundrayeti312> !repeat | chadeldridge
[20:13] <Suhail> magnetron: I am using Ubuntu
[20:13] <Aidan1> right click save as
[20:13] <Aidan1> to disk
[20:14] <roog> someone with no sound in zattoo at 8.10?
[20:14] <kevin3> like could u just give me what code to write or do i just take that first half and write it with ndis instead of modu
[20:14] <chadeldridge> sorry being annoyed in impatient .. :-(
[20:14] <Kevin`> kevin3: after, run dmesg and check for errors with the b43 driver. it sometimes needs firmware for the card (easy enough to install)
[20:14] <Suhail> magnetron: I am trying to do httpd -S and the like however that's obviously not availble.
[20:14] <XThief> gyven it worked, thanks!
[20:14] <ljuwaidah> damn you vista! i've forgot how to do lots of basic linux things
[20:14] <emt> !repeat
[20:14] <Armada> z0d14k: didn't think of it -_-"
[20:14] <Flannel> Suhail: What does httpd -S do?
[20:14] <Vinetou> hello
[20:14] <ljuwaidah> a while ago i wanted to extract a tarball and i couldn't :(
[20:14] <gyven> XThief Pleasure!
[20:14] <z0d14k> chalderidge: If you are static, you can do what I did with my desktop.  don't use network-manager.  instead use /etc/network/interfaces
[20:14] <Suhail> Flannel: command not found
[20:14] <asdfman2> Flannel: it used to show the devices each entry was going to boot from... and I was able to change hd1,0 to hd0,0
[20:14] <calc> who's upgraded to jaunty already? :)
[20:14] <asdfman2> ...which always worked
[20:14] <chadeldridge> z0d14k:  good call .. thanks
[20:14] <Flannel> Suhail: what do you *think* it should do?
[20:15] <Kevin`> kevin3: echo "blacklist ndiswrapper" >>/etc/modpdobe.d/my_blacklist
[20:15] <ljuwaidah> calc: Is that 9.04?
[20:15] <calc> jaunty was opened about 9hr ago
[20:15] <calc> ljuwaidah: yes
[20:15] <Mixed_--_> how would you mount a hard drive using a live CD???
[20:15] <ljuwaidah> damn!
[20:15] <Lr5> ay^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65372/
[20:15] <Flannel> asdfman2: Ah, thats replaced by UUIDs, see blkid to get a list of UUIDs
[20:15] <Suhail> Flannel: Show me my vhosts for apache
[20:15] <zachb> I'm having an annoying problem w/ intrepid... x will die after being alive for about a minute or so
[20:15] <Kevin`> kevin3: ubottu's instruction would imply using a text editor, but that's hard to describe in one line over irc =p
[20:15] <Lr5> ay^: that's one of the many messages it gives
[20:15] <ay^> damn gotta get that on virtualbox
[20:15] <Armada> phoenix3051: Can't connect, I'll just use z0d14k's advice
[20:15] <zachb> (if I cut out, it did it again)
[20:15] <magnetron> Suhail→ it's autostarted as a service at bootup. also, the command may have another name than upstream
[20:15] <Armada> phoenix3051: thanks anyway
[20:15] <gyven> Mixed_--_ mount -t fstype /dev/foo /mntpoint
[20:15] <Suhail> magnetron: right so what's the command?
[20:15] <ljuwaidah> how do you get the id of a partition (i just typed this in the terminal :( )
[20:15] <phoenix3051> Armada: ok
[20:15] <asdfman2> Flannel: i'm not flowing with that... how does one see blkid?
[20:15] <Flannel> Suhail: just look in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/ ?
[20:15] <Flannel> asdfman2: sudo blkid
[20:15] <kane77> calc, well isn't that basically intrepid now? (since there was no work on it yet)
[20:16] <Tundrayeti312> !paste | Kevin`
[20:16] <Suhail> Flannel: It gives other information
[20:16] <asdfman2> oh
[20:16] <amews_aj> Flannel: Just found bugreports, the 96 driver is not working in ibex
[20:16] <asdfman2> thank you Flannel
[20:16] <calc> i'll try to upload OOo 3.0 to jaunty early next week whenever bandwidth becomes available again
[20:16] <amews_aj> something about the xserver
[20:16] <atlanta800> when converting from wma->mp3 with SoundConverter, is it supposed to keep id3 tags?
[20:16] <kevin3> lol sorry im brand new to thid
[20:16] <Mixed_--_> gyven:  but where would "/mntpoint" be since i would be booting from a live cd?
[20:16] <calc> kane77: well not much has been updated yet, true its only been open 9hr :)
[20:16] <Kevin`> Tundrayeti312: hard to describe at all in a direct way, since it's a gui thing
[20:16] <amews_aj> Why isn't OOo 3 included in ibex ?
[20:16] <Suhail> Flannel: How can I find out the version of apache I am usin
[20:16] <calc> amews_aj: its not stable enough yet
[20:16] <Flannel> Suhail: apt-cache policy apache2
[20:16] <amews_aj> calc: it is final ?
[20:16] <ay^> Lr5: I'm sorry to say, but I have no real idea, but it does seem that the system thinks that /var/ is somehow looped with itself
[20:16] <Tundrayeti312> Kevin`: screen shot? :)
[20:16] <ljuwaidah> anyone? how do i get the uuid?
[20:16] <calc> amews_aj: it was released 3 days before final freeze for intrepid also, and needs at least a month (from previous experience) to stabilize
[20:17] <Joe_Knight> anyone using 8.10 yet?
[20:17] <kane77> amews_aj, it is planned to be included as backports..
[20:17] <kevin3> ys
[20:17] <ljuwaidah> i hate to ask n00b questions :(
[20:17] <ay^> Joe_Knight: yeah
[20:17] <kane77> Joe_Knight, lots of people
[20:17] <trogdor1> Hi, just upgraded to 8.10 and the Places menu items "video" and "music" doesn't pull up their folders. instead, I get a random video or audio clip. Any ideas?
[20:17] <bimberi> !uuid | ljuwaidah
[20:17] <calc> amews_aj: well final according to sun but still buggy, they are putting out a bugfix release on dec 2
[20:17] <ljuwaidah> riiiiiiiight
[20:17] <ljuwaidah> thanks
[20:17] <XThief> There is anyone to make ubuntu Log in the wireless connection automatically, without asking any password???
[20:17] <Aidan1> think im going to give google another stab , :) thanks for your help
[20:17] <Joe_Knight> i used breezy a while back did it get even better?
[20:17] <Joe_Knight> lol
[20:17] <ay^> XThief: yes
[20:17] <Lr5> ay^: I guess I'll try removing stuf
[20:17] <Kevin`> XThief: yes
[20:17] <Lr5> stuff*
[20:17] <gyven> Mixed_--_ wherever you want it, it is a "virtual" connection and doesn't actually store anything off of the device you mount. It merely "mounts" it, creates a conduit for which data can be accessed
[20:17] <kane77> calc, I might install jaunty into virtualbox to see the progress :)
[20:17] <emt> New 8.10 sucks :IO
[20:17] <calc> kane77: yep i am going to work with the backports people to get it for intrepid (maybe hardy too)
[20:17] <ay^> Lr5: glhfDD! :)
[20:18] <XThief> Kevin ay^ how??
[20:18] <z0d14k> XThief: gnome-keyring should store your passowrd (if you tell it to), then login automatically for you later.
[20:18] <olifre> A question according compiling with CC1 in Intrepid: It seems to regard warnings as errors, most things can not be compiled anymore!
[20:18] <ay^> XThief: I typed the correct password and it stuck :)
[20:18] <calc> kane77: good luck :)
[20:18] <Joe_Knight> does anyone know if airlink wireless card works on it?
[20:18] <olifre> Is there a switch on commandline or sth?
[20:18] <bimberi> calc: yes please (hardy backport) :)
[20:18] <koruptid> well, I figured out one problem.... auto-login makes default keyring access to network-applet sad
[20:18] <Kevin`> XThief: I do it via /etc/network/interfaces instead of networkmanager may not be your preferred method
[20:18] <gyven> Aidan1 sorry, didnt see your response, lost in the flood -- do you have this lag with http downloads of files?
[20:18] <calc> kane77: i think i will run it in a vm as well to make sure i don't break OOo 3.0 too much
[20:18] <ay^> XThief: but if all else fails you could try installing wicd instaed of network-manager
[20:18] <emt> How I can get rid of those gnome-keyring errors?
[20:18] <amews_aj> calc: It really is unstable ?
[20:18] <Suhail> Flannel: okay well how come I can't execute command lines from the *actual* httpd/apache2 binary?
[20:18] <Tundrayeti312> !hardware | Joe_Knight
[20:18] <z0d14k> Joe_Knight: Download the liveCD and try.
[20:18] <amews_aj> recommend not ot install =
[20:18] <Mixed_--_> gyven:  ahh ok thanks, and at that point I can write/read to the HD?
[20:18] <gyven> Mixed_--_ correct
[20:18] <calc> amews_aj: not today, but once the new toolchain, etc is uploaded it is likely to have more bugs for a few months
[20:18] <kane77> calc, and I also seen ppa repository having OOo 3.0
[20:19] <XThief> Kevin` what do i have to put there to connect automatically?
[20:19] <calc> kane77: yea i uploaded that a few weeks ago
[20:19] <zachb> Damn, it happened two more times
[20:19] <Kevin`> XThief: ask again in 4 minutes
[20:19] <koruptid> emt, well... I just discovered autologin screws up the keychain auto-auth so if you have autologin on I would recommend turning it off
[20:19] <zachb> X seems to crash when I open a program... but its always different ones
[20:19] <kane77> calc, good work then :)
[20:19] <emt> koruptid I don't have autologin
[20:19] <kevin3> im getting physically tired
[20:19] <gangsterlicious> "intrepid" debootstrap is symlink to gusty..... wat the hell? 8.10 => 7.10?
[20:19] <XThief> Kevin` ok
[20:19] <calc> kane77: it has a few known bugs including not being able to change themes but i intend to fix that when i upload to jaunty
[20:19] <kevin3> lol
[20:20] <tleylaxu> ubuntu devs,bring xmms back!!!
[20:20] <gangsterlicious> is that a fail?
[20:20] <kevin3> no such file or dir
[20:20] <kevin3> in that pimbodo/.d _blacklist
[20:20] <adamt> hi
[20:20] <Minty95> trying to convert him, its not easy
[20:20] <silici0> Does this cron run 3 in 3 hours ? * */3 * * *  /root/rsync-shell.sh !?
[20:20] <calc> tleylaxu: aiui they got rid of all gtk1 apps, not just xmms
[20:20] <adamt> hi
[20:20] <koruptid> emt, meh... was worth a shot.... I've been fighting with that for two days until I just figured this out on impulse... lol
[20:20] <Kevin`> kevin3: check your typing
[20:20] <n8tuser> gangsterlicious-> how did you get that?
[20:20] <hubar> hi all.
[20:20] <gangsterlicious> ........i guess no one here is packing Xen base image for deployment
[20:20] <kevin3> i copied and pasted
[20:20] <kevin3> echo "blacklist ndiswrapper" >>/etc/modpdobe.d/my_blacklist
[20:21] <Kevin`> kevin3: oh wait
[20:21] <calc> tleylaxu: there are some forks of xmms to gtk2 which i think are in universe
[20:21] <emt> koruptid got any other solutions? :D
[20:21] <Kevin`> kevin3: /etc/modprobe.d
[20:21] <Kevin`> kevin3: -_-
[20:21] <tleylaxu> ?????
[20:21] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: i manage Xen servers and trying to build Intrepid
[20:21] <Tundrayeti312> !cron | silici0
[20:21] <cdpuk> silici0: That's every minute of every third hour I believe
[20:21] <kevin3> was that it?
[20:21] <adamt> is there an alternative way of getting the 8.10-installer on a flash-stick? usb-creator gives me a stick with grub error 17.
[20:21] <hubar> Has anyoone have problems with their keyboard being oversensitive in intrepid???
[20:21] <koruptid> emt, I hear shotgurns are useful in these situations
[20:21] <Kevin`> kevin3: yeah, I typed it wrong
[20:21] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: check /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts in base intrepid install
[20:21] <Adyeths> how do I get the new Intrepid to use the binary NVidia drivers that actually work?
[20:21] <n8tuser> gangsterlicious-> what i meant is did you have 8.10 installed already ?
[20:21] <kevin3> echo "blacklist ndiswrapper" >>/etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist
[20:21] <olifre> A question according compiling with CC1 in Intrepid: It seems to regard warnings as errors, most things can not be compiled anymore!
[20:21] <olifre> Is there a switch on commandline or sth?
[20:21] <silici0> cdpuk: oh, thanks
[20:21] <kevin3> brb
[20:22] <emt> koruptid A real shotgun? :(
[20:22] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: yes, server edition
[20:22] <calc> binary actually work is an oxymoron :)
[20:22] <cdpuk> silici0: Stick a zero in the first place to make it run on the hour only
[20:22] <gangsterlicious> trying to debootstrap a base image
[20:22]  * calc says this while still having a nvidia pos
[20:22] <XThief> Kevin` can i ask you know?
[20:22] <gangsterlicious> well, source.lst is listing intrepid
[20:22] <Kevin`> XThief: http://rafb.net/p/RyVwot81.html
[20:22] <gangsterlicious> i'll chroot and update it see if it fails
[20:22] <calc> i get to replace my nvidia junk in about a year when i give it to my wife :)
[20:22] <koruptid> emt, <<< I'm just gonna stop now before I get slapped by the off-topic police... but yes, a shotgun... preferably with buckshot
[20:23] <n8tuser> gangsterlicious-> i suspect its a delay of having debootstrap available, just like when 8.04 came out first week, there were no debootstrap for hardy
[20:23] <silici0> cdpuk:  do u mean like these ? * 0/3 * * *  /root/rsync-shell.sh !?
[20:23] <cdpuk> silici0: As in 0 */3 * * * ...
[20:23] <silici0> ow i see
[20:23] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: k, thanks.
[20:23] <adamt> i'll try again: how do i install from an usb-stick, without using the usb-creator?
[20:24] <kris_> I think it's really retarded for ubuntu to just drop support for native dom0 -- that really screwed me over ... now I have to learn a hacky kvm system that isn't even working, takes forever to generate a vm ... and from what I can tell, doesn't easily support lvm
[20:24] <silici0> cdpuk: thanks so much
[20:24] <Adyeths> so nobody knows the answer to my question?
[20:24] <mordof> k so i've never compiled any code before.. i'm on ubuntu server, anyone able to help me here? i've been given a code that i need to set up svn to update my working copy of a website.  C code i think.
[20:24] <Kevin`> kris_: how did they drop support for it?
[20:24] <kevin3> i think i need to be root how do i login
[20:24] <kevin3> permission denied
[20:24] <ljuwaidah> humm... what do i do if i want to specify a mount point that has a space in it in fstab?
[20:24] <kris_> Kevin`: native dom0 kernel
[20:24] <amews_aj> shouldn't sudo service gdm stop from pty1 stop the xserver ?
[20:24] <dalem50> What's the command on APT to install all of the package dependencies?
[20:24] <cdpuk> silici0: No problem
[20:24] <ompaul> !root | kevin3
[20:24]  * Adyeths knew he should have waited longer before upgrading. *sigh*
[20:24] <XThief> Kevin` eth0 isnt my wireless
[20:24] <Kevin`> kris_: I use my own kernel anyway, heh
[20:24] <amews_aj> When installing a driver it claims that it isn't stopped
[20:24] <Kevin`> XThief: it's an example
[20:25] <kevin3> i have the pass
[20:25] <Kevin`> kevin3: do sudo -i first
[20:25] <piksi-> kevin3: you can always set the root password after sudo -s
[20:25] <kris_> Kevin`: yeah I was going to do that, but now i have to hunt down the freakin packages for the "dev kernel" because the previously named package doesn't exist
[20:25] <ljuwaidah> i tried using quotation marks but that didn't work
[20:25] <dalem50> How do you install all the dependencies in a .deb package?
[20:25] <ljuwaidah> not even \ worked
[20:25] <XThief> Kevin` but where do you put the password?
[20:25] <Joe_Knight> i remember ubuntu having issues with media has that improved?
[20:25] <Kevin`> XThief: in wpa_supplicant.conf
[20:25] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 8.10; PulseAudio 9.10; ALSA 1.0.17; 4.1 Speaker Setup --- When using mplayer or gstreamer, I can only get sound out of my front speakers; no sound comes out of the back. However, with mplayer, when I switch to OSS instead of Alsa or Pulse, it uses all the speakers. [20:26] <Tundrayeti312> AdemoS: There is a pulseaudio config file you have to change
[20:26] <calc> AdemoS: there is a pulse audio configuration tool that isn't installed by default, so maybe with that
[20:26] <kris_> Kevin`: did you use a package to get a dev kernel?
[20:26] <Kevin`> kris_: http://xen.org/download/ - IMO use that until .28 or whatever comes out with official dom0 support, or unless you need specific drivers
[20:26] <AdemoS> Tundrayeti312 or calc, can you give me the package name?
[20:26] <amews_aj> shouldn't sudo service gdm stop from pty1 stop the xserver ?
[20:26] <amews_aj> When installing a driver it claims that it isn't stopped
[20:26] <ljuwaidah> it's \040
[20:26] <calc> AdemoS: i think paman might do it
[20:27] <AdemoS> calc, thanks
[20:27] <King_Kickass> hey the update worked without problems! I just wanna say something positive here for a change
[20:27] <Suhail> Flannel: how can I check if mod_php5 is enabled for apache2?
[20:27] <Tundrayeti312> AdemoS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525
[20:27] <calc> AdemoS: paman - PulseAudio Manager there are various other pulse audio tools in package as well
[20:27] <Joe_Knight> how about web design and creation what is the best software?
[20:27] <theRipper> what is command to open ssh port?
[20:27] <Kevin`> kevin3: sudo -i will get you a root prompt, then you can run the command
[20:27] <theRipper> sudo apt-get install ... /
[20:27] <calc> theRipper: to install ssh? apt-get install openssh-server
[20:27] <kevin3> i ran it as root and typed my pass
[20:27] <theRipper> calc 10x
[20:27] <matreya6> Intrepid feels like an early beta. Problems with CD drive closing immediately after opening it and no noticeable improvement or innovation in the interface or hardware support.
[20:27] <kevin3> and it didnt give and output or error
[20:27] <Kevin`> kevin3: ok.
[20:28] <Kevin`> kevin3: modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[20:28] <kevin3> ya i had that cd trap problem
[20:28] <AdemoS> "First things first: PULSEAUDIO DEFAULTS TO ONLY TWO CHANNELS!" <---- Exactly the topic I was looking for, thanks a ton calc
[20:28] <bribera> Upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10: rebooting into the 2.6.27-7-generic kernel causes panics (see http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965456) Is this known? Any ideas about solutions?
[20:28] <calc> matreya6: that is known issue that will be fixed soon in an update, apparently was a kernel bug
[20:28] <Kevin`> kevin3: and do dmesg >file.txt
[20:28] <Tundrayeti312> AdemoS: That was me, but yw :)
[20:28] <kevin3> after modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[20:28] <dalem50> How do you make a command run at startup what requires root access?
[20:28] <magnetron> amews_aj→ "sudo service"? i don't that's how you do it in ubuntu. looks like RH usage to me. use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" instead!
[20:28] <amerinese> is there a command to copy an entire text file to the clipboard?
[20:28] <Ben> hey, i can't get my webcam to work with skype and ubuntu, it crashes every time i try to turn on video during a call, any ideas?
[20:28] <AdemoS> Tundrayeti312, sorry thank you also :p
[20:28] <Tekno> rc.local
[20:28] <eriq> what repo do I have to enable to get the 2.6.27-7.15 kernel?
[20:28] <Kevin`> kevin3: after, but it doesn't much matter, i'm looking at PAST messages
[20:28] <matreya6> calc, if it is a kernel bug, why is it that only ubuntu seems to be affected, while other distros use the same kernel version?
[20:28] <_Carrie_> hello, I have been recording video on my digital camera and the videos are .avi format, Totem is not playing them. Do I need to get a package or something?
[20:29] <amews_aj> magnetron: does the same
[20:29] <porter1> Can anyone suggest a minipci card (such as atheros based) that works perfectly in ubuntu?
[20:29] <calc> matreya6: iirc it was narrowed down to either HAL or the kernel, there is a bug report about it linked from the release notes
[20:29] <Kevin`> porter1: cm9
[20:29] <calc> matreya6: have any other dists released with 2.6.27 yet?
[20:29] <magnetron> _Carrie_→ What format or those avi files in? DivX? MPEG?
[20:29] <calc> matreya6: i thought OpenSUSE and Fedora hadn't released yet
[20:30] <psp> Does hardy get 2.6.27?
[20:30] <porter1> cm9?
[20:30] <Ben> hey, i can't get my webcam to work with skype and ubuntu, it crashes every time i try to turn on video during a call, any ideas?
[20:30] <_Carrie_> magnetron, I'm not sure.
[20:30] <Kevin`> porter1: wistron cm9, common card used for wisp's and higher level stuff
[20:30] <matreya6> calc, yes, at my work we use CentOS 5 with that same kernel. no CD problems there. Although this distro is heavily modified by or admins
[20:30] <King_Kickass> i have one problem after the update: when I click on Places->pictures/documents/....   it opens these folders with mplayer instead of the file browser
[20:30] <Kevin`> porter1: should be able to find it cheap too
[20:30] <_Carrie_> magnetron, the MIME Type is video/x-msvideo
[20:30] <MR_QT> hello
[20:31] <calc> matreya6: not sure then, look at the bug report linked from the release notes maybe more updated info is there now
[20:31] <porter1> Kevin', I was trying to find it on ebay but I'm not getting anything
[20:31]  * calc has to get back to work
[20:31] <koruptid> Kevin`, for future note... do they have a 802.11n card?
[20:31] <dohhh> I have a 3com USB wifi adapter that i want to use (3CRUSB20075), but i have not clue to how i am supposed to install the driver. It doesn't work out of the box on Ubuntu 8.10. Anybody got a tip for a newbie ? :)
[20:31] <Ben> hey, i can't get my webcam to work with skype and ubuntu, it crashes every time i try to turn on video during a call, any ideas?
[20:31] <Kevin`> koruptid: unsure
[20:31] <Kevin`> porter1: just google cm9
[20:31] <spidora> I need to know how to use GParted on a USB drive that isn't recognised.
[20:31] <bradL1> I have a question
[20:31] <_Carrie_> !avi
[20:31] <rodolfo_> guys on a different notebook, after booting using my liveCD as primary drive, the ubuntu little orange bar stops moving and the installation gets frozen. THe OS doesn't start up at all. What can it be?
[20:32] <koruptid> Kevin`, k... the card in my dell is at best horrible... so that's why I ask
[20:32] <matreya6> calc, Even if it is mentioned in the release notes, it does not feel as a solid release yet. I'm going to stick with 8.04 until these things have been ironed out.
[20:32] <amerinese> anyone have problems getting an nvidia driver to work in 8.10 Intrepid?  i can't seem to enable it and this is the error in my xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65379/
[20:32] <hallobelgi> hy all , little question, i forgot long time ago i changed my message before login and the msg after login now i get something out of the box from ubuntu but wanne change that, anyone know where the file is located?
[20:32] <noisek79> Ubuntu 8.10 + FS Amilo1420 + RV350/Mobile Radeon 9600 = Help! Pm please!
[20:32] <eriq> Sorry to repeat myself, but does anybody know what repo I have to enable to get the 2.6.27-7.15 kernel?
[20:32] <magnetron> _Carrie_→ if i were you, i would watch the properties for the file in Totem. it will tell you which codec/format is used.
[20:32] <porter1> So all of that chipset work flawlessly, because I'm replacing my broadcom
[20:32] <hotmonkeyluv> how can I find out the IP of a router on my network, it's the one that connects to the internet, so I suppose it's the gateway. I can't find the IP, so I can't SSH into it, and it's really annoying.
[20:32] <Kevin`> koruptid: ATHEROS does have 802.11n cards.. that I believe work in linux.. but I don't know who you mean by "they", and I don't personally use N yet
[20:32] <bradL1> can i change my screen resolution to something other than 800:600 or 600:400?
[20:33] <hotmonkeyluv> bradL1:  yeah
[20:33] <noisek79> bradL1: Exact same for me...
[20:33] <noisek79> bradL1: Low graphics mode?
[20:33] <koruptid> Kevin`, cm9
[20:33] <magnetron> hotmonkeyluv→ the "route" command will tell you the IP of the current gateway you are using
[20:33] <kevin3> dmesg>bloop.txt doesnt give me a file
[20:33] <bradL1> i dont know I'm new to ubuntu
[20:33] <Tundrayeti312> amerinese: You may need to re-enable the restricted driver
[20:33] <Kevin`> koruptid: cm9 is a specific model
[20:33] <kevin3> unless changine to root changes where it puts things
[20:33] <hotmonkeyluv> magnetron:  can you specify how to use it? or wait...i'll check the man page
[20:33] <koruptid> Kevin`, ah... sorry... in the middle of building alsa 1.0.18 so I hadn't looked it up yet
[20:33] <Kevin`> kevin3: it would
[20:34] <Kevin`> kevin3: /root
[20:34] <ircmonkey> ubuntu devs,bring back xmms
[20:34] <hallobelgi> anyone? change the welcome msg before login in ubuntu;, its a file somewhere stored... forgot the location....
[20:34] <on5sl> hello, jockey-gtk keeps on crashing?
[20:34] <Kevin`> koruptid: A/B/G FWIW
[20:34] <ripps> who needs xmms, audacious is better
[20:34] <Mabo> ciao
[20:34] <_Carrie_> is there anyway to check if I'm updated to Ibex? I've just done updates but there was no mention of a new distribution.
[20:34] <willluongo> hallobelgi: /etc/motd?
[20:34] <Tundrayeti312> hallobelgi: Did u try google?
[20:34] <ircmonkey> no audacoius!!!
[20:34] <rodolfo_> somebody help...
[20:34] <porter1> Kevin`, does this look like a good deal? http://cgi.ebay.com/CM9-Mini-PCI-WISTRON-NEWEB-mini-PCI_W0QQitemZ360075725893QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
[20:34] <Kevin`> koruptid: forget if it does the proprietary 108
[20:34] <rodolfo_> guys on a different notebook, after booting using my liveCD as primary drive, the ubuntu little orange bar stops moving and the installation gets frozen. THe OS doesn't start up at all. What can it be?
[20:34] <noisek79> Anyone know how to get out of Fail safe graphic mode??
[20:34] <hallobelgi> willuongo, thx jup thats what i needed:)
[20:34] <dohhh> I have a 3com USB wifi adapter that i want to use (3CRUSB20075), but i have not clue to how i am supposed to install the driver. It doesn't work out of the box on Ubuntu 8.10. Anybody got a tip for a newbie ? :)
[20:34] <ircmonkey> many people need xmms
[20:35] <amerinese> tundrayeti312: i try to but clicking on enable doesn't result it in showing "enabled"... i also tried reinstalling the restricted driver packages but that didn't work either... the result is the driver not being loaded as you can see in the Xorg log file
[20:35] <kevin3> ahh /root
[20:35] <koruptid> Kevin`, are there any notes yet on when ubuntu will be moving to 1.0.18? there's a fatal flaw with my card in 1.0.17 that has me doing the scripted install from the forums
[20:35] <matreya6> I have a mistery on my box, Sometimes my system monitor registers 100% CPU usage even if the processes shown in top only add up to about 23% or so. This is even true when I've opened top as root.
[20:35] <Tundrayeti312> amerinese: Might be a bug... : /
[20:35] <willluongo> hallobelgi: You're welcome! It's a symlink, but you can replace it with a flat file, or point it somewhere more memorable.
[20:35] <Kevin`> koruptid: not the one to ask
[20:35] <BikgerGeek> _Carrie_:  I had to go into the preferences and enable the update checker to check for new releases.  If it upgraded it should have taken quite a while to do it.
[20:35] <spidora> I need to know how to use GParted on a USB drive that isn't recognised.
[20:35] <spidora> I need to know how to use GParted on a USB drive that won't mount
[20:35] <sabayonuser> I got a problem with extlinux:
[20:35] <sabayonuser> sabayonx86-64 pendrivelinux # chmod u+rwx extlinux.sys
[20:35] <sabayonuser> chmod: changing permissions of `extlinux.sys': Operation not permitted
[20:35] <koruptid> Kevin`, nobody seems to be... my pleas for info on the forums have thus far fallen on deaf ears
[20:35] <Kevin`> spidora: it should be unmounted when you use gparted anyway
[20:36] <erisco> no matter what I do the 8.10 installer will NOT detect my hard drive... so when it reached the partitioning stage it doesn't display anything able to be partitioned
[20:36] <erisco> what do I do?
[20:36] <Tundrayeti312> spidora: Seems like ur  asking the impossible... 1st figure out how to mount the USB
[20:36] <magnetron> sabayonuser→ are you using ubuntu on this computer?
[20:36] <Kevin`> koruptid: I use USE ubuntu sometimes. i'm only here because of the highlights for 'kevin3' ;)
[20:36] <spidora> Kevin`: just need it to work in gparted... can't get anything to happen
[20:36] <matreya6> erisco what hard drive controller do you use?
[20:36] <_Carrie_> BikgerGeek, ok, thanks I'll poke around and see if I can find it (Not finding it where you said it was)
[20:36] <kevin3> paste it?
[20:36] <Otacon22> !eeepc
[20:36] <sabayonuser> magnetron: No, but I was
[20:36] <hotmonkeyluv> magnetron:  I only get 255.255.255.0, and the IP of one of the first router on my network, not the actual internet IP
[20:36] <jrib> erisco: did you see the release notes?
[20:36] <Kevin`> kevin3: yep
[20:36] <koruptid> Kevin`, lol
[20:36] <erisco> matreya6, I don't know, what is a hard drive controller?
[20:36] <ircmonkey> eee rulz!!!
[20:36] <erisco> jrib, no
[20:36] <kevin3> http://rafb.net/p/jHoAxU80.html
[20:37] <jrib> erisco: take a look at them
[20:37] <matreya6> erisco, a HDD controller is the part of the chipset on your motherboard that controls access to your HDD
[20:37] <spidora> Tundrayeti312: The drive mounted fine before I had to format it in XP. Now, I can't mount it, and it just won't read/write or even open on any of my linux boxes.
[20:37] <koruptid> Kevin`, I wonder if any ubuntu staff haunt this room that could be asked... I'd love to get some useful info that isn't people taking their best guess
[20:37] <KMan> guys can some1 go in a chat w/ me 2 help me out
[20:37] <erisco> matreya6, well I have no idea
[20:37] <KMan> w/ ubuntu
[20:37] <on5sl> my jockey-gtk keeps searching for proprietary drivers :( anyone got an idea?
[20:37] <magnetron> sabayonuser→ we only provide support for ubuntu here. sabayon has some good forums or mailing lists, i'm sure
[20:37] <erisco> matreya6, what are general options? perhaps I will recognize one
[20:37] <matreya6> erisco, typically this is SATA, SAS, iSCSI or on old systems:PATA
[20:37] <_Carrie_> BikgerGeek, I see "Show new distribution releases: Long Term Support Releases Only" but I'm not getting informed via Updates Manager about the new release :(
[20:38] <erisco> matreya6, its a sata
[20:38] <kevin3> any thoughts anyone
[20:38] <Kevin`> kevin3: moment, looking up how to do this properly
[20:38] <KMan> can some1 come into a chat w/ me 2 help me out
[20:38] <KMan> ?
[20:38] <koruptid> _Carrie_: may just want to do the dist-upgrade
[20:38] <fudoreaper> _Carrie_: the new release is not a long term support version
[20:38] <spidora> Tundrayeti312: I can see the drive in /dev/, and computer:/// but I can't get it to mount, and I can't get GPartd to run with it.
[20:38] <kevin3> k
[20:38] <erisco> jrib, I am not using the liveCD, though
[20:38] <matreya6> erisco, have you already installed a flavour of linux on your computer and got it run?
[20:38] <Kevin`> kevin3: http://www.omattos.com/broadcom/ - this looks like an easy method :)
[20:38] <jrib> erisco: what are you using?
[20:38] <_Carrie_> fudoreaper, oh? I thought it was released yesterday? Does it take it awhile to reach LTS?
[20:39] <Kevin`> although I wonder..
[20:39] <erisco> matreya6, yes, of course. this time I am not using a cd though
[20:39] <Kevin`> !bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:39] <Tundrayeti312> spidora: Do you have it set to automount?  If so, changing the file format could be an issue
[20:39] <erisco> jrib, the alternate amd64
[20:39] <Kevin`> :(*
[20:39] <zachb1> http://www.nabble.com/intrepid-random-logouts-xserver-crash-td20102178.html I seem to be having the same problem: only it apparently wasn't fixed in the updates. I'm using an nvidia card, so its not an intel problem
[20:39] <Joe_Knight> the downloadable ubuntu cd desktop one can also be the live cd right?
[20:39] <cowbellemoo> _Carrie_, that option should be set to "normal" to get each 6-month ubuntu release
[20:39] <spidora> Tundrayeti312: All I get is "no media in the drive.
[20:39] <runpain2> I have a Hp Pavilion dv6747cl with amd 64x2 atheros 5006 wireless with Ubuntu Ce 8.04 installed need step by step to get wireless to work
[20:39] <_Carrie_> cowbellemoo, ok, I thought all releases of ubuntu where LTS hehe, well that answers my question then :D
[20:39] <jrib> erisco: I see.  Don't know then.  Does the live cd work (it may give more clues)?
[20:39] <KMan> ubuntu is starting up on my comp
[20:39] <erisco> jrib, perhaps I can try to unmount the hard drive anyways?
[20:39] <spidora> Tundrayeti312: no automount. I used to mount it through the autorun, but I got rid of that, and now the thing won't open.
[20:39] <KMan> can some1 help me???
[20:39] <erisco> jrib, I cannot burn a cd
[20:40] <Tundrayeti312> !wireless | runpain2
[20:40] <compengi> Joe_Knight, if you downloaded the ubuntu desktop version, then it's bundled with the live cd
[20:40] <matreya6> erisco, try this on the terminal: (output to a pastebox) lspci | grep storage
[20:40] <nagyv1> hello! is it correct to say that chmod g+w does not allow the group members to create new files? Instead they can write only existing files?
[20:40] <Joe_Knight> ok kool
[20:40] <runpain2> I have a Hp Pavilion dv6747cl with amd 64x2 atheros 5006 wireless with Ubuntu Ce 8.04 installed need step by step to get wireless to work Please
[20:40] <spidora> is there a force mount command?
[20:40] <matreya6> !pastebox | erisco
[20:40] <erisco> matreya6, returns nothing
[20:40] <kevin3> how do i take that whole director or is it just that one file that is the parent to those two directorys
[20:40] <kevin3> directory
[20:40] <runpain2> i have tried to use that ubottu
[20:40] <Kevin`> kevin3: the one file
[20:40] <Kevin`> kevin3: well, the one tar file
[20:41] <ljuwaidah> errr
[20:41] <cowbellemoo> _Carrie_, nah, LTS releases are every 2 years (4 releases).  Mine was set on LTS too for some reason, even though I don't remember putting it that way
[20:41] <kevin3> ok thank you as this says it should work after
[20:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: then do this:
[20:41] <Tundrayeti312> spidora: Well check the permissions see if there is something there and/or try to umount and mount manually, thats all i can say : /
[20:41] <ljuwaidah> how do i access gconf? typing gconf isn't working
[20:41] <Kevin`> tar xf b43-all-fw.tar.gz
[20:41] <matreya6> erisco, please put the output of lspci in a pastebin.
[20:41] <runpain2> Tundrayeti312, I have tried that it is too confussing
[20:41] <Kevin`> cp b43/* /lib/firmware/
[20:41] <matreya6> !pastebin | erisco
[20:41] <_Carrie_> cowbellemoo, yeah me neither, must be a default thing with Hardy although I'm sure some big head in here will say "Nooo it's nawt, you are did it and don'ts remember!!!1" lol
[20:41] <jagiil> hi guys
[20:41] <kevin3> can i untar it hear in windows? then place it in firmware
[20:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: got that? two lines
[20:41] <jrib> ljuwaidah: why do you want to "access gconf"?  You probably want gconf-editor to edit gconf keys
[20:41] <Kevin`> kevin3: oh wait, that's wrong
[20:41] <compengi> jrib!
[20:42] <kevin3> k
[20:42] <compengi> !ops
[20:42] <jagiil> having problem upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[20:42] <kevin3> cant i just unzip this thing in windows and drop it in firmware?
[20:42] <ljuwaidah> sorry, wrong word used :D
[20:42] <RealNitro> I just tried to upgrade a hardy laptop to intrepid, but for some reason it just installing a few packages (I'm guessing the cause is the local .be mirror is down)
[20:42] <erisco> matreya6, http://pastebin.ca/1241885
[20:42] <Kevin`> kevin3: tar xf b43-all-fw.tar.gz; cp -a b43 /lib/firmware/
[20:42] <RealNitro> what's the correct way to get my system back to a consistent state?
[20:42] <Kevin`> kevin3: windows might mess up the files, it's not worth it
[20:42] <jrib> well, that was easy... almost too easy
[20:42] <kevin3> so get this tar file over there
[20:42] <compengi> heeh
[20:43] <matreya6> erisco, this is your HDD controller: #00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
[20:43] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[20:43] <kevin3> then once i have it on my flash drive
[20:43] <runpain2>  Jack_sparrow is here as an op how soo
[20:43] <djolefol> Do somebody know why there was a bad MD5SUMS.gpg signature at http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ earlier this day? I was amazed, when I saw different signatures in different mirrors.
[20:43] <kevin3> do i put it where it says or just type your command
[20:43] <erisco> matreya6, so how does this help me?
[20:43] <Kevin`> kevin3: type the command
[20:43] <lena> Привет
[20:43] <koruptid> is there a keyboard shortcut similar to the windows run command in gnome?
[20:43] <lena> Люди
[20:43] <FloodBot3> lena: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <_Carrie_> !ru | lena
[20:43] <Megaqwerty> koruptid: Alt+F2
[20:43] <lena> Как вы
[20:43] <jrib> koruptid: alt-f2 by default
[20:43] <runpain2> Jack_Sparrow how goes it
[20:43] <jrib> !ru | lena
[20:43] <koruptid> cheers!
[20:44] <kevin3> thanks
[20:44] <compengi> lena, zdes' tol'ko po anglijski obshjajytsa :)
[20:44] <matreya6> erisco, it is odd that both entries referring to that controller are registered as IDE interfaces. Did you configure it that way in your BIOS?
[20:44] <erisco> matreya6, I have tried numerous ways to install without a CD, but in all cases either the installer says the ubuntu cd is no good, or the installer does not give me any storage devices to partition
[20:44] <lena> почему
[20:44] <koruptid> Megaqwerty, well, that just saved me a lot of pain of opening tons of terminal windows
[20:44] <ljuwaidah> thanks jrib
[20:44] <runpain2> !ops
[20:44] <jrib> runpain2: yes?
[20:45] <shad0w0fsin> Am I the only one having a slower boot time in ibex than in hardy?
[20:45] <erisco> matreya6, in the case where I am using a usb stick as my bootable device it asks me to partition my usb stick... but that it not what I want at all
[20:45] <Megaqwerty> koruptid: glad I could help :)
[20:45] <jrib> runpain2: why did you call !ops?
[20:45] <erisco> matreya6, I have not changed any configuration like that in the BIOS
[20:45] <runpain2> jrib are you Jack_sparrow
[20:45] <compengi> lena, potomy chto est' kanal dja tol'ko rysko govorjashih. paprobyj #ubunt-ru
[20:45] <koruptid> Megaqwerty, next question... do you know where in gconf I can find the setting to set a custom time format for the clock?
[20:45] <_Carrie_> lena, Вы находитесь не в том зале, я просил бот чтобы дать вам правильный номер.
[20:45] <matreya6> erisco, Maybe the deafult setting in your BIOS are wrong for your setup.
[20:45] <jrib> runpain2: don't abuse !ops please. No, Jack_Sparrow is a different person
[20:46] <erisco> matreya6, the method I am trying now, I got the boot files from the ubuntu archive site and put them into my boot directory and created a new grub entry
[20:46] <matreya6> erisco, deaufult => default.
[20:46] <runpain2> sorry i thought jack was here excuse me please
[20:46] <Maeva> do I need to add the line options snd-hda-intel model=auto in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, in order to make it work ?
[20:46] <Megaqwerty> koruptid: can't say I do. sorry
[20:46] <spidora> is there a command in terminal to run gparted on a specific location?
[20:46] <erisco> matreya6, the installer picks up my iso in the root of my hard drive partition and loads it... however as I said, it doesn't let me partition anything
[20:46] <madrazr> Hi all, I heard that its possible to lock individual directories in Intrepid, how can I do it? can anyone link me if there are any tutorials?
[20:46] <Megaqwerty> koruptid: but you can use gconf-editor to browse around for it
[20:46] <kevin3> i just pretended to put it on my flash drive by putting commands and a file in a folder on my desktop
[20:46] <erisco> matreya6, perhaps because the hard drive is being mounted? *shrug*
[20:47] <kevin3> then i took it with me
[20:47] <magnetron> madrazr→ are you referring to the encrypted private folder?
[20:47] <go_beep_yourself> whats new in ubuntu 8.10. whats different about it?
[20:47] <matreya6> erisco, did you check if your nVidia chipset is supported in the Linux Hardware Database?
[20:47] <ircmonkey> bring back xmms
[20:47] <erisco> matreya6, I never had a problem using CD's before for years
[20:47] <magnetron> !notes | go_beep_yourself
[20:47] <erisco> matreya6, this is the first time I cannot get a CD
[20:47] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: that debootstrap intrepid=>gusty image seems to be fine.
[20:47] <magnetron> !ping | go_beep_yourself
[20:47] <ircmonkey> bring back xmms
[20:47]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping |  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[20:48] <spidora> is there a command in terminal to run gparted on a specific location?
[20:48] <madrazr> magnetron: I think yes, I don't want a particular directory to be readable by anyone for example
[20:48] <jrib> spidora: gparted [device]  according to its man page
[20:48] <n8tuser> gangsterlicious-> you installed it? i suspect they're pretty much very similar..
[20:48] <RealNitro> can sb tell me which mirrors in europe are up AND in a correct state?
[20:48] <madrazr> magnetron: I was just testing whats new, nothing important. If thats possible please tell me
[20:48] <abchirk> where are the modules like vesa for XorgServer?
[20:48] <RealNitro> upgrading in belgium is a nightmare atm...
[20:49] <Megaqwerty> go_beep_yourself: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc is a feature list
[20:49] <loquitus_of_bor1> What do you folks think of the new Ubuntu? Do you recommend updating to it if I am running Hardy right now? I am sure some of you might think this is a stupid and obvious question. To those of you that do not, I am just wondering what you think about the new version, and the process of updating to it, especially right now.
[20:49] <ircmonkey> bring back xmms
[20:49] <n8tuser> gangsterlicious-> debootstrap only installs the basic kernel stuff, so i figured the differences are in the packages like desktop and such
[20:49] <matreya6> erisco, this is strange indeed. You could try with another kernel. My box doesn't like kernel 2.6.21 for some reason.
[20:49] <Moman> I'm New and I need to know how to take ownership of smb.conf so I can create shared folders on my lan.  The message says I don't own the file.  root owns the file I am the admin, but don't know how to become root.
[20:49] <gangsterlicious> n8tuser: yea, Xen boots that guest fine. didn't have aptitude and stuff. dist-upgrade went fine
[20:49] <n8tuser> loquitus_of_bor1-> too late now eh?
[20:49] <erisco> matreya6, I will try something and be back in a bit. thanks for you help
[20:50]  * amews_aj finally managed to get nvidia working on intrepid
[20:50] <loquitus_of_bor1> n8tuser: too late for what?
[20:50] <jrib> loquitus_of_bor1: that's completely dependent on you.  Intrepid and Hardy are both fine.  If you want to have newer stuff, then upgrade.  If hardy works for you and you're not interested in newer stuff, then stay
[20:50] <n8tuser> loquitus_of_bor1-> you already started your update...
[20:50] <compengi> RealNitro, when you go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and select a server, the servers are divided into continantes
[20:51] <amews_aj> how can it be that the downloading packages is a lot slower that it used to be? Just many people downloading ?
[20:51] <loquitus_of_bor1> jrib: I love to have newer stuff, but do you recommend updating right now (is it overly slow and busy)? Also, with some software (not Ubuntu necessarily), they say you should wait a week or so before doing it just in case there are kinks that went unnoticed before the release...
[20:51] <NicEXE> I expanded (grow) my ext3 partition, formated it, (as ext3) restored my data but the problem is that GRUB is not working showing me "Error 17" what do I have to do?
[20:51] <gangsterlicious> i tarred the guest and ran it on hardy host
[20:51] <spidora> jrib: no device detected?
[20:51] <loquitus_of_bor1> n8tuser: I already started my update?
[20:51] <jrib> spidora: huh?
[20:51] <n8tuser> loquitus_of_bor1-> thats what you said didnt you? i dont need to repeat what you said..lol
[20:51] <velko> RealNitro, the german servers were not bad yesterday
[20:52] <matreya6> Some processes don't seem to show up in top. All processes use a sum of 23%, but my system monitor tells me that the processor is used for the full 100%. This stalls my system and after a while things continue as usual.
[20:52] <amews_aj> Is it just me or are the download of package files slow?
[20:52] <compengi> amews_aj, propably
[20:52] <shad0w0fsin> anyone know how to decrease the boot time in ibex? its slower than hardy for me
[20:52] <amews_aj> k
[20:52] <compengi> probably*
[20:52] <loquitus_of_bor1> n8tuser: no. that's not what I said. if you care, read it again. I never mentioned anything about having already started the update process.
[20:52] <amews_aj> compengi: I only download at 16-20 kb/s, usually I download with up to 1,3 mb/s
[20:52] <thethirdmoose> How do I enable the new power button?
[20:52] <NicEXE> I expanded (grow) my ext3 partition, formated it, (as ext3) restored my data but the problem is that GRUB is not working showing me "Error 17" what do I have to do?
[20:52] <jrib> loquitus_of_bor1: the beta and rc have been out for a couple of weeks now and got a lot of testing.  As for your traffic concerns, it's probably true some mirrors are getting hammered at the moment, so waiting a bit won't hurt
[20:52] <Moman> Can anyone help me share files on my lan?
[20:52] <spidora> jrib: The USB drive is detected as such by Ubuntu, but it will not mount "unreadable", and it will not open in GParted "no device detected"
[20:52] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: try changing your mirror
[20:52] <compengi> amews_aj, select a different source? :D
[20:52] <Blowfeld> Hi guys.. i try to alternate my mac every time i boot.. the forum says add "sudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether *mac-addresse*" in /etc/network/interfaces/pre-up but where?!
[20:52] <jrib> spidora: how are you trying to open it?
[20:52] <amews_aj> How do I do that? I am a ubuntu beginner...
[20:53] <thethirdmoose> How do I enable the fast-user-switch applet?
[20:53] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: System>Administration>Software Sources
[20:53] <RealNitro> velko: I'm switching to .de atm
[20:53] <RealNitro> I hope I can recover my system :-/
[20:53] <RealNitro> thx
[20:53] <matreya6> spidora, has your USB drive ever been formatted?
[20:53] <loquitus_of_bor1> jrib: ok...  if I want to do it now (upgrade from hardy to intrepid), what is the best way to do so?
[20:53] <spidora> jrib sudo mount, double click, sudo gparted...
[20:53] <sceo> n8tuser outbackwifi - just thought I'd pop in and say thanks for all your effort this morning.  as it turns out, it WAS the firewall (ufw) that was preventing me from getting to the Internet; sudo ufw disable fixed all my problems
[20:53] <jrib> !upgrade > loquitus_of_bor1
[20:53] <spidora> matreya6: yes, in XP.
[20:53] <jrib> spidora: be specific...
[20:53] <n8tuser> loquitus_of_bor1->  the process of updating to it, especially right now.  <-- it meant to me you are doing it now
[20:53] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: I am downloading from the local server in my country...
[20:53] <magnetron> matreya6→ top doesn't list the linux kernel CPU usage
[20:53] <amews_aj> Should I go main server?
[20:54] <matreya6> spidora, did you create an encrypted NTFS partition on that stick?
[20:54] <thethirdmoose> My power button is the old kind that brings up a dialog box. How do I enable the new Ibex power button?
[20:54] <loquitus_of_bor1> n8tuser: doing it now as opposed to in a week.
[20:54] <compengi> shad0w0fsin, your boot time depends on what applications you have on startup. check your /etc/init.conf and see what you have on boot and remove if you don't need it
[20:54] <amerinese> hello hello... i found a solution to the problems with the nvidia drivers... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6071927#post6071927
[20:54] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: there's a speed test you can run to find the fastest server for you
[20:54] <XThief> Does anyone know how to do so the notebook turns off the screen after some minutes of inactivity?
[20:54] <vahnx> Every machine I tried the new Ubuntu on, the loading graphic seemed bugged. Even with the ISO in a VM.
[20:54] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: found it
[20:54] <loquitus_of_bor1> jrib: thanks
[20:54] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: cool.
[20:54] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: I suppose all default servers are safe ?
[20:54] <vahnx> The loading bar duplicates for me.
[20:54] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: correct
[20:54] <amerinese> make sure you have linux-header files installed--in my case i needed the -server version installed, not just the -generic version
[20:54] <n8tuser> sceo cool
[20:54] <matreya6> magnetron: Thx for the hint. Do you know how to get top or another program to display all process loads, includes thoose belonging to the kernel?
[20:54] <spidora> matreya6: No encryption, but it probably is an NTFS. I just found the drive in My COmputer>Right clicked>Format.
[20:54] <kevin3> ...
[20:55] <kevin3> ..
[20:55] <kevin3> .....
[20:55] <kevin3> .
[20:55] <compengi> kevin3, stop.
[20:55] <kevin3> sorry
[20:55] <thethirdmoose> Can someone please help me enable the new Ibex power button?
[20:55] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: Should I reload synaptic after changing mirror ?
[20:55] <shad0w0fsin> compengi: /etc/init.conf doesn't exist on my computer
[20:55] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: yep
[20:55] <amews_aj> k
[20:55] <kevin3> i just never done anything that took that much work on my computer
[20:55] <compengi> shad0w0fsin, let me check it
[20:55] <thethirdmoose> right now, I have three power buttons - power, lock screen, and log off
[20:55] <kevin3> but thanks kevin
[20:55] <matreya6> spidora, There is no important info on that stick? Else you will erase any existing data that way (!)
[20:55] <SilverStreak> hey, I'm suffering from bug 271706 which involves a multimedia key not sending a keyup event, therefore trapping the aforementioned key in an endless loop and locking up my keyboard - any solutions for this?
[20:56] <kevin3> and uboobaloob
[20:56] <spidora> matreya6: Nothing I don't already have backed up.
[20:56] <n8tuser> thethirdmoose-> right click on that bar and add to panel?
[20:56] <XThief> Does anyone know how to do so the notebook turns off the screen after some minutes of inactivity? Right know it doesnt turn off
[20:56] <matreya6> spidora, OK you got me worried a while ;-)
[20:57] <vahnx> XThief: Check Power Options I believe
[20:57] <thethirdmoose> n8tuser: There are only the old types
[20:57] <GoCooL_> the update-manager doesn;t seem to have picked up the new ubuntu distro yet, what's the correct way to do it?
[20:57] <Megaqwerty> XThief: or failing that System>Preferences>Screensaver
[20:57] <XThief> vahnx but doesnt turn off, it puts a black screen, but still on
[20:57] <spidora> matreya6: I really wanted to use GParted to blend the 2 particians. It's a cruiser, so it has the factory junk softyware for running a pseudo OS off of the Stick in Windows.
[20:57] <n8tuser> thethirdmoose-> then i dont know, i dont know what you're looking for
[20:58] <vahnx> GoCool: You must change a setting in the Update Manager
[20:58] <DaveDixonII> If i made a logo from scratch that looked like the Ubuntu logo but dif colors, would that be ok to use with my projecT?
[20:58] <n8tuser> XThief-> maybe its an APM feature?
[20:58] <shad0w0fsin> anyone else experiencing a slow boot time + gnome startup time in ibex?
[20:58] <GoCooL_> vahnx: what setting is it?
[20:58] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: Wow thx, now I am downloading at 1,5 mb/s
[20:58] <XThief> n8tuser APM?
[20:58] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: :) happy to help
[20:58] <vahnx> Umm, I think it's under... 1 sec ill open my VM
[20:58] <berosford> Hey all
[20:58] <n8tuser> XThief-> man apm
[20:58] <berosford> Anyone know how I can get USB support working on VirtualBox under Intrepid?
[20:58] <spidora> jrib Ok, so the device is sdb, and scd2, so I have tried manually, and through terminal to open these particians or to format them. Thant is my problem.
[20:59] <berosford> All the guides are for Gutsy.
[20:59] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: Any reason to switch back to local server in future ?
[20:59] <matreya6> spidora, so I see... a startup partion with autorun.inf and the allimportant logo as a pictogram, no?
[20:59] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[20:59] <jrib> spidora: how is the device sdb AND scd2?
[20:59] <n8tuser> berosford-> it should be pretty similar in gutsy, try it and see if it works
[20:59] <vahnx> System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates
[20:59] <jim_p> guys please help me because someone will drive me mad tonight! he runs lspci and he gets "command not found" !!! how is this possible?
[21:00] <rockyrock> the new Ubuntu 8.10 looks greeeeeeeat! Where can i find info and manuals about the new features?
[21:00] <abchirk> How I can reconfigure a packe like xserver-driver-intel in aptitutde its marked with the flag "c"?
[21:00] <vahnx> Release Upgrade >
[21:00] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: the only reason I could see is the lag time in updating.
[21:00] <compengi> shad0w0fsin, check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup this is a gui application
[21:00] <matreya6> To those that have upgraded to Intrepid: What was your reason to do so?
[21:00] <jrib> jim_p: try /usr/bin/lspci
[21:00] <berosford> n8tuser: It's not :( mountdevsubfs.sh has changed
[21:00] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: which server did you switch to?
[21:00] <amews_aj> let me check
[21:00] <jrib> matreya6: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:00] <spidora> jrib: it is a "cruiser"... It mounts a virtual CD drive as one partician to run a pseudo OS off of the stick in Windows. I would preferably like to get rid of that, blend the 2 particians, and have a normal USB stick.
[21:00] <vahnx> I upgraded to be up-to-date
[21:00] <vahnx> and to see the new features
[21:00] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu
[21:01] <matreya6> jrib, Allright I'll join that channel as well...
[21:01] <spidora> matreya6: I guess. It has an annoying autorun that I disabled.
[21:01] <szx0> I'm having the hardest time setting up an external monitor with my laptop.... I want to setup spanning mode with my laptop and external monitor, but every configuration I seem to come up with just has an external clone? Any solid recommendations on tutorials?
[21:01] <rbd> is xen going to be phased out of ubuntu, given that kvm is favored?
[21:01] <MagicPee> can anyone help me starting xampp being a normal user ?
[21:01] <Slart> jim_p: make him check to see if pciutils is installed
[21:01] <spidora> MagicPee: why don't you just sudo it in terminal?
[21:01] <jrib> spidora: ok.  So now  you want to format it?
[21:01] <ircmonkey> bring back xmms,not another fork!!!!
[21:02] <jim_p> jrib: thanks. i just told him and he gets the same error! if he used I instead of L i am closing msn now and block him for stupidity!
[21:02] <MagicPee> spidora: in xampp you have button to start it, but i am normal user so it doesnt work
[21:02] <spidora> jrib: Yes, but Ubuntu won't recognise it since I formatted it in XP.
[21:02] <kane77> how do I connect to other computers when I use DHCP (before I used to have static IP for each computer)? (I know this is not ubuntu specific)
[21:02] <shipitkthx> I was in here early with a problem with 8.10 freezing after login, i'm able to get into gnome if i choose it as the session at the login screen, however I cant get a network connection once i'm there, can anyone help me figure this out? it seems its happening to multiple people in the forums
[21:02] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: yeah, they are only a day behind the main mirror. I see no reason to switch.
[21:02] <Bupsss> hi all
[21:02] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: ok :)
[21:02] <spidora> MagicPee: I'm not sure. can you access terminal?
[21:02] <MagicPee> spidora : yes i can start it using sudo
[21:02] <Bupsss> i need some help with bluetooth.... essentially... i cannot see the services
[21:02] <Guest29422> hello all
[21:02] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: Maybe you can also answer, should I uninstall ooo 2.4 before installing ooo 3 ?
[21:03] <Bupsss> i'm trying to connect a windows mobile, to my ubuntu
[21:03] <N0_Named_Guy> hello guys! One question, does skype (from medibuntu) work well by default, or should I do some kind of workaround? :S
[21:03] <compengi> kane77, you need to know each computer's ip for that, if you are setup as dhcp this won't stop anything, you just need to know other pc's ips
[21:03] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: that depends. How are you installing 3? Are you using the Launchpad ppa?
[21:03] <sceo> What happened to the "Burn" animation in Compiz?  I had it for Hardy but it's gone after upgrade to Intrepid.  Is there a way I can download it, etc?
[21:03] <GoCooL_> vahnx: do i pick "Normal releases" under "Release upgrade"?
[21:03] <starcannon> ircmonkey xmms used to be my favorite, and indeed I felt the same way as you; that is, until I used Audacious, all the familiar gui controls and functionality, but with modern parts under the hood, I highly recommend it to any xmms folks running Ubuntu
[21:03] <jrib> spidora: so you want to repartition first?  Do you have any data on this thing?
[21:03] <ircmonkey> no
[21:03] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: I need launchpad ? standard sources does not contain it ?
[21:03] <spidora> jrib: nothing important
[21:04] <kane77> compengi, isn't there a way to somehow assign it's MAC address a name? so I could do something like ssh desktop ?
[21:04] <Gogh> Hi there!  Anyone who can tell me if a PPC port of the latest Ubuntu exists yet?
[21:04] <jrib> spidora: what's the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[21:04] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: not what I meant.
[21:04] <jrib> !ppc | Gogh
[21:04] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: ?
[21:04] <MagicPee> ﻿spidora : yes i can start it using sudo
[21:04] <Moman> How do I become Root
[21:04] <compengi> Moman, su
[21:04] <jrib> !sudo | Moman
[21:05] <N0_Named_Guy> Momam: just run sudo :D
[21:05] <spidora> jrib: nothing pertaining to the USB stick, just my HDD.
[21:05] <starcannon> Gogh on the beta 8.10 I was able to download a ppc version for the Playstation 3, don't know if it made release or not though
[21:05] <Gogh> Hmm!
[21:05] <Moman> Thanks
[21:05] <loquitus_of_bor1> So I have release 8.04. Is that the same as "8.04 LTS" and does that mean I need to follow the specific directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades ?
[21:05] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: just follow this guide: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[21:05] <Gogh> I'll try digging around, thanks!
[21:05] <compengi> Moman, use "su" only if you know what are you doing
[21:05] <Gogh> Glad that PPC is still being supported by the community, anyhow!
[21:05] <jrib> spidora: what do you get from dmesg when you plug it in?
[21:05] <amews_aj> Megaqwerty: Not removing 2.4 first?
[21:05] <Gogh> I'm currently on 8.04
[21:05] <dkulchenko> i was playing with nat and my firewall, but now I can not connect to the internet, i get 'sendmsg: operation not permitted'. is there a way to revert to some sort of default settings, or is there a tool to reconfigure my firewall?
[21:05] <Megaqwerty> amews_aj: correct
[21:05] <amews_aj> k
[21:05] <Gogh> They can pry my titanium macbook from my cold, dead hands :-)
[21:05] <kane77> loquitus_of_bor1, yes LTS means Long Term Support
[21:06] <starcannon> Gogh worst case scenario is you may have to compile your own kernel, its a pita, but very doable
[21:06] <spidora> jrib: a very long readout
[21:06] <jrib> Gogh: cdimage.ubuntu.com is timing out, but I would check there
[21:06] <Gogh> Thanks, jrib!
[21:06] <loquitus_of_bor1> kane77: I know what LTS means but when I checked out what I have right now, it says 8.04, not 8.04 LTS.
[21:06] <jrib> spidora: right, you're supposed to look for interesting stuff at the end
[21:06] <loquitus_of_bor1> Do I actually have 8.04 LTS even if it says only 8.04?
[21:06] <jrib> loquitus_of_bor1: yes
[21:06] <loquitus_of_bor1> I did lsp_release -a
[21:06] <loquitus_of_bor1> ah ok
[21:06] <jrib> LTS just means the version gets supported longer
[21:06] <snova> how do i change the cursor theme from gnome?
[21:07] <shipitkthx> is there anyway to roll back all the upgrades? i was perfectly happy with my working 8.04
[21:07] <giannoug> can someone give some help on apache2 and 8.10? virtualhost related.
[21:07] <jrib> Gogh: ftp://ftp.gnome-db.org/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.10/release/ has some isos
[21:07] <Slart> shipitkthx: I don't think so.. you're looking at a reinstall if you want 8.04 back
[21:07] <spidora> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m3573b80f
[21:07] <kane77> loquitus_of_bor1, there was only one version of 8.04 (the LTS)
[21:07] <jim_p> shipitkthx: what problems do ou have noW?
[21:07] <shad0w0fsin> compengi: I removed some unnecessary startup entries, but gnome still takes longer to load
[21:08] <Megaqwerty> snova: System>Preferences>Appearance>Customize... then choose pointer
[21:08] <jrib> shad0w0fsin: so do you have /dev/sdg?
[21:08] <spidora> jrib: So I'm going to assume the drive is sdg?
[21:08] <starcannon> shipitkthx probably the easiest way is to backup your data, do a reinstall, this time be sure to set up a seperate /home partition (this will allow you to reinstall in the future with out the big backup headache)
[21:08] <compengi> loquitus_of_bor1, LTS only mean Long Term Support (which is 3 years for desktops and 5 years for servers)
[21:08] <shipitkthx> when i login it goes to blank screen and stays there, if i choose Gnome at the login screen i can get into gnome but cant get on network
[21:08] <shad0w0fsin> jrib: no
[21:08] <snova> Megaqwerty: oh, thanks. i thought that button was for something else.
[21:08] <jrib> spidora: so do you have /dev/sdg?
[21:08] <shipitkthx> there is a thread going on the forums with 8.10 doing this to several people
[21:08] <Megaqwerty> snova: no problem :)
[21:09] <spidora> jrib: yup.
[21:09] <giannoug> can someone help with apache2? :(
[21:09] <geboy> hi
[21:09] <jrib> giannoug: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[21:09] <geboy> i'm with giannoug then
[21:09] <mordof> giannoug: #apache?
[21:09] <jrib> spidora: so can you format that in gparted?
[21:09] <geboy> i need to setup vhost using apache2 in ubuntu
[21:09] <Gogh> On a sidenote, it seems that there's no "official" community 8.10 for PPC out, but I'll just keep my eyes open
[21:09] <snova> Megaqwerty: you wouldn't happen to know if oxygen cursors work in gnome, would you?
[21:09] <SilverStreak> If I'm having input problems, is it a good idea to roll back my x.org to an earlier version? One of my multimedia keys isn't sending a keyup event, so it gets caught in an endless loop
[21:09] <giannoug> but its on ubuntu 8.10 and the problem arose with the update
[21:09] <spidora> jrib: No device detected.
[21:09] <shipitkthx> also for some reason i can't load any installation cds
[21:09] <mordof> giannoug: what's the problem?
[21:10] <compengi> geboy, it's better to ask in #apache
[21:10] <starcannon> giannoug probably best place for apache support is in #apache though you may find some help here as well
[21:10] <geboy> the people in apache says ubuntu messed up with the config
[21:10] <Megaqwerty> snova: no idea. I've never tried tweaking my cursor before.
[21:10] <shipitkthx> so basically i'm screwed
[21:10] <giannoug> mordof: cant get virtualhosts to work
[21:10] <shad0w0fsin> shipitkthx : what's your problem?
[21:10] <geboy> so i come her
[21:10] <geboy> *here
[21:10] <shipitkthx> 8.10 goes to a blank screen after login
[21:10] <shipitkthx> and then does nothing
[21:10] <jrib> spidora: can you 'fdisk /dev/sdg'?
[21:10] <mordof> giannoug: no idea where to even start with that.
[21:10] <jim_p> !grub | NicEXE
[21:11] <lequtix> I installed 8.10 ..  Everything works great except my volume control buttons..  all the function buttons work.. FN-F8 etc.. for brightness.. only volume control and wireless on/off don't work
[21:11] <lequtix> its compaq hp 6710b
[21:11] <thinksInCode> hi all
[21:11] <lequtix> anyone have any ideas to try?
[21:11] <jrib> spidora: make sure it's not mounted by running 'mount'
[21:11] <spidora> jrib: Unable to open /dev/sdg
[21:11] <jrib> spidora: you used sudo?
[21:11] <spidora> jrib: yes, I used sudo.
[21:11] <kane77> how do I install 32bit libs on amd64?
[21:11] <jrib> spidora: check dmesg
[21:12] <noodlesgc> shipitkthx what I would do is boot into recovery mode and create a new user using the adduser command and login as the new user and see if its the user settings thats causeing the problem
[21:12] <jrib> kane77: install ia32-libs
[21:12] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: They should already be installed
[21:12] <thinksInCode> i have a question: i downloaded thunderbird 2.0.0.17 from mozilla, but the size of all the fonts in the UI (message list, menu bar, etc.) are all much bigger than the packaged version of thunderbird with ubuntu. Is there a way I can reduce those font sizes so it is the same in appearance?
[21:12] <kane77> jrib, is this the only thing to be able 32bit programs under wine?
[21:12] <dkulchenko> how can i revert my firewall settings to their defaults? i've killed my internet connection after screwing up my firewall settings
[21:12] <djolefol> The bad MD5SUMS.gpg signature can be found here http://paste.ubuntu.com/65394/
[21:12] <kane77> jrib, * the only thing needed
[21:13] <jrib> kane77: that stuff "just works" for me
[21:13] <spidora> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m1314e87e
[21:13] <compengi> dkulchenko, what did you use to setup your firewall?
[21:13] <snova> Megaqwerty: well, oxygen icons work fine, so it'll probably work.
[21:13] <jrib> spidora: don't know then
[21:13] <Megaqwerty> snova: cool. Good luck.
[21:13] <spidora> jrib: crazy. Damn you WIndows!!!
[21:13] <geboy> http://pastebin.com/m79a8a6be this is my httpd.conf, and this is the result http://pastebin.com/m2f91421a
[21:14] <rockyrock> ubuntu doesn't want to mount my memory card :(, but it mounted another memory card from the same type!! What to do?
[21:14] <thinksInCode> anyone know why the fonts in the downloaded thunderbird are bigger than the fonts in the ubuntu packaged thunderbird?
[21:14] <winferno_> kane77: installing ia32-libs worked for me also. I had to do that to set up World of Warcraft under Wine.
[21:14] <snova> rockyrock: can you do it manually (from the command line)?
[21:15] <snova> Megaqwerty: yep, they work. i guess this kind of thing is standardized.
[21:15] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, hmm.. yes they seem to.. so what else do I need to run programs under wine? because they don't run now (and yet they do run on 32-bit ubuntu)
[21:15] <rockyrock> snova: how to do that??
[21:15] <compengi> rockyrock, sudo fdisk -l check where is your memory card and then mount /dev/sd{a} as listed in the result
[21:15] <dkulchenko> compengi: i don't really remember. i was doing something with nat and iptables, i've flushed iptables, but that did not help
[21:15] <Megaqwerty> snova: excellent.
[21:15] <compengi> dkulchenko, i see..
[21:15] <dkulchenko> compengi: is there a reconfiguration tool that clears everything?
[21:15] <snova> rockyrock: the syntax is 'mount -t <fstype> /dev/<device> /media/<mountpoint>'
[21:15] <shad0w0fsin> so does anyone else have a slow gnome loading time?
[21:16] <teratorn> anyone running intrepid with a Radeon FireGL V5200 card? I'm wondering if I can get fglrx to work somehow, because it seems the latest driver doesn't support my card... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/284408
[21:16] <snova> rockyrock: oh, and use sudo
[21:16] <cody> for some reason firefox is always on top, did i press some type of shorcut?  how do i disable ti
[21:16] <Freon> hi all
[21:16] <rockyrock> compengi: i have drives in Computer that concerns the card reader, how can i know which one that has the card??
[21:16] <snova> cody: click the icon in the window bar, deselect Always On Top
[21:17] <Neeeewbee> Hello. Can someone tell me how to restore gnome to a usable session. Using Metacity, changed screen rez and got black screen. Everytime I login.. now.. same thing..
[21:17] <rockyrock> compengi: *i have 4 drives.....
[21:17] <cody> ty, did i do that through some type of keyboard shortcut?
[21:17] <thinksInCode> Apologize for repeating myself... but does anyone know why the fonts in the downloaded thunderbird are bigger than the fonts in the ubuntu packaged thunderbird?
[21:17] <compengi> dkulchenko, use iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT then iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT then iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[21:18] <compengi> dkulchenko, then iptables -F then iptables -X
[21:18] <snova> thinksInCode: probably because ubuntu packagers change the defaults to blend in with the rest of gnome.
[21:18] <chaos1> :D I have a totally newb question. I have been using wget to download my ISO files and I use the -c option so that I will continue if the download stops or I stop it. I can't seem to remember how to tell it where to download to. Any suggestions?
[21:18] <bill_> hi there,
[21:18] <bill_> anybody could help my about video playback
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> why hello
[21:18] <Megaqwerty> chaos1: -O
[21:18] <snova> cody: i don't know if there's a keyboard shortcut for it, but probably. it's useful sometimes.
[21:18] <dkulchenko> compengi: thanks, i'll try that. is there a way to see "the life of a packet": the network interfaces it goes through, firewalls, etc.?
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> !ask | bill_
[21:19] <amews_aj> I just installed KDE desktop on ubuntu, but now the compiz settings does not have effect anymore. Fx Expo (super+e) doesn't do anything. What to do ?
[21:19] <runpain2> I have a Hp Pavilion dv6747cl with amd 64x2 atheros 5006 wireless with Ubuntu Ce 8.04 installed need step by step to get wireless to work
[21:19] <Slack> Anyone know how i can write a bash script in the term to run a series of commands off of an alias
[21:19] <compengi> dkulchenko, then paste the output of iptables -nvL
[21:19] <thinksInCode> snova, do you know where those things get set? lightning 0.9 won't work with the packaged version of thunderbird, but it does in the downloaded version
[21:19] <compengi> rockyrock, if you know the size of your card then you could :)
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> amews_aj: probably best to ask in #kubuntu
[21:19] <chaos1> Megaqwerty: so basically wget -cO <link> <directory>
[21:19] <unop> chaos1, by default, wget downloads the file to the current directory, use -O to force another path/filename
[21:19] <maestro444> rmn: programm crashed
[21:19] <Megaqwerty> wget -O file http://foo.com
[21:19] <Megaqwerty> chaos1: wget -O file http://foo.com
[21:19] <snova> thinksInCode: no.
[21:20] <compengi> dkulchenko, you mean to check the ips that your applications are connected to?
[21:20] <chaos1> Megaqwerty: so file would be the location?
[21:20] <unop> Slack, aliases don't work in scripts, they work for interactive shells only.
[21:20] <Megaqwerty> chaos1: correct
[21:20] <rockyrock> compengi: it's 512MB, and when i ran fdisk i got: Disk /dev/sdf: 504 MB, 504365056 bytes
[21:20] <maestro444> rmn: goin to sleep now.. thank you again .. bye
[21:20] <dkulchenko> compengi: no i mean see where the packet travels through before it leaves the machine
[21:20] <runpain2> i need help with this please
[21:20] <Freon> hello
[21:20] <runpain2> I have a Hp Pavilion dv6747cl with amd 64x2 atheros 5006 wireless with Ubuntu Ce 8.04 installed need step by step to get wireless to work
[21:20] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:21] <rockyrock> compengi: after that i got at the end: /dev/sdf1   *           1         961      491789+   b  W95 FAT32
[21:21] <chaos1> Megaqwerty: so to make it continue I can do -cO
[21:21] <compengi> dkulchenko, i'm not sure if there anything that could monitor this
[21:21] <Megaqwerty> chaos1: yep
[21:21] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: u get ur wine issue figured out?
[21:21] <ruff> having difficulties with ubuntu 8.10 and nvidia geforce mx4000 s-video out
[21:21] <Freon> hey compengi
[21:21] <rockyrock> compengi: but when i try to do this: sudo mount /dev/sdf1, i get this: mount: can't find /dev/sdf1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:22] <devhyn> o.o 1498 people
[21:22] <bradL1> I need some help changing my screen resolution
[21:22] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:22] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, no :( I am not able to install and/or run most of programs on my amd64.. do you have any idea?
[21:22] <r2kordmaa> use 32bit version
[21:22] <unop> rockyrock, you need to specify a mountpoint at which the volume is to be mounted at.
[21:22] <chaos1> ok thanks guys
[21:22] <_samurai> heh. upgrade = utter fail.
[21:22] <kris_> what's the package that contains the kernel dev stuff?
[21:22] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:22] <rockyrock> unop: how to do that?
[21:23] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: What version of wine?
[21:23] <rockyrock> unop: can you write the complete command for me please
[21:23] <devhyn> >.>
[21:23] <KMan> can some1 help me? ubuntu isnt starting up properly
[21:23] <bradL1> I need some screen resolution help
[21:23] <jbartus> I'm running 8.10 and have an ATI HD 2400 video card, its only detecting one of my displays and it detects it as "unknown"... is there any way to fix that?
[21:23] <unop> rockyrock, sudo mkdir /media/sdf1; sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/sdf1
[21:23] <daigorobr> with compiz in intrepid, when I use keyboard shortcuts for raising or lowering volume, it keeps going non-stop until i press mute. does it happen to anyone else?
[21:23] <Neeeewbee> I changed my screen rez and now my screen turns black and ubuntu doesn't respond. I manually reboot login and same thing.. black screen.
[21:23] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, 1.0.1 (the one that is in intrepid)
[21:23] <sveakex> why is ubuntu better than openSUSE?
[21:23] <amews_aj> What is shortcut for terminal ?
[21:23] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: any particular errors, or warnings?
[21:23] <KMan> can some1 help me? ubuntu isnt starting up properly
[21:24] <compengi> sveakex, do you have a support question/
[21:24] <Freon> @KMan any more info?
[21:24] <kane77> wait a second I will try a program
[21:24] <Flannel> !doesntwork | KMan
[21:24] <kris_> what's the replacement for linux-kernel-devel -- it seems to not be in apt, yet community docs say you need that for kernel source
[21:24] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:24] <compengi> sveakex, you could discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:24] <Flannel> !kernel | kris_
[21:24] <rockyrock> unop: i got this: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:24] <runpain2> I have a Hp Pavilion dv6747cl with amd 64x2 atheros 5006 wireless with Ubuntu Ce 8.04 installed need step by step to get wireless to work
[21:24] <kebomix> hello , the first time i worked on ubuntu was month ago , and i had ubuntu working fine for a month , then it began to freeze and sometimes it give me errors like , could not open x server , and sometimes it mess up , i reinstalled it again and it work fine for aday then it have problems with booting after grub it  tell me alot of errors always like couldnt open x server , and sometimes let me open my ubuntu through shell , i installed ubuntu like 8 times
[21:24] <kebomix> and always work fine for one or two days and them mess up , any suggestions , cuz im thinking to turn back to windows
[21:25] <kris_> Flannel: well, i'm installing vmware and it wants to know where the kernel source is ....
[21:25] <unop> rockyrock, what filesystem is /dev/sdf1 ?
[21:25] <dimitree> How to resolve a deb package error showing dependancy not satisfiable : libavcodec1d (or Ld not sure)
[21:25] <KMan> ok... when i try 2 turn on ubuntu, it says running local boot scripts nd then it jus freezes
[21:25] <rockyrock> unop: FAT32
[21:25] <Flannel> kris_: That page steps you through grabbing the source
[21:25] <KMan> this is rite after i upgraded 2 8.10
[21:25] <Neeeewbee> Can someone tell which file to delete to recover from a corrupt metacity session?
[21:25] <gnarlie> anyone using a quickcam express?
[21:25] <kris_> Flannel: it's wrong -- it says to install linux-kernel-devel which is NOT in apt ...
[21:25] <unop> rockyrock,  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 /media/sdf1
[21:25] <gnarlie> I got it working with cheese but any other program just shows a garbled screen
[21:25] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, Unhandled page fault on execute access to 0x... at address 0x.. (thread 0010), starting debugger...
[21:25] <sken> hello ubu guys
[21:25] <kris_> erg, brb
[21:26] <kebomix> sken: hello
[21:26] <Tundrayeti312> kane77 Your programs are in ntfs partition yeah?
[21:26] <bradL1> Can someone help me with ym screen  resolution
[21:26] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, yes
[21:26] <Freon> sken:hello
[21:26] <daigorobr> hrm.. last try: with compiz in intrepid, when I use keyboard shortcuts for raising or lowering volume, it keeps going non-stop until i press mute. does it happen to anyone else?
[21:26] <Appl3Kork> can someone help me figure out why the Ubuntu Server can't be seen by ppl outside the homenetwork? I've installed ddclient, and configured it, but still no luck
[21:26] <_samurai> kris_: i thought it was 'kernel-devel'?
[21:26] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: And they worked prior to upgrade?
[21:26] <rockyrock> unop: it works, but why ubuntu doesn't mount it automatically?
[21:26] <kris_> I didn't see the line that it said it doesn't exist in intrepid -- they dropped it ... which seems to be common for them to do
[21:27] <runpain2> maybe some day gota hair cut
[21:27] <sken> does anybody know any program like limewire
[21:27]  * runpain2 is away: I'm busy Giving a Haircut Be Back ASAP
[21:27] <Megaqwerty> sken: frostwire
[21:27] <unop> rockyrock,  is it a removable drive?
[21:27] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, I have not been running too much of windows stuff, but yes it has
[21:27] <bimberi> !frostwire | sken
[21:27] <rkvirani> Anyone here know if Sun Microsystems gives support for ubuntu?
[21:27] <rockyrock> unop: phone memory card
[21:27] <kebomix> Irc chat in ubuntu is more good windows , when i was using it on windows 1 hour ago , it was messy and hard to seem essages for me , not recognized
[21:27] <bradL1> can someone help me with changing my screen resolution?
[21:27] <rkvirani> (like commercial support)
[21:27] <KMan> can an experienced ubuntu person plz help me
[21:27] <kebomix> or organised
[21:27] <bimberi> !away > runpain2
[21:27] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, not the same program though
[21:27] <P_Kable|Laptop> Just upgraded to 8.1 and I do not have internet access... seems like a dns problem cuz I can ping the router
[21:28] <unop> rockyrock, not sure then
[21:28] <sken> can i install limewire in ubuntu or it's the same?
[21:28] <rockyrock> unop: what if it was a removable drive?
[21:28] <Freon> @P_Kable describe it more precise
[21:28] <Flannel> !frostwire | sken
[21:28] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: I had the same issue... your /etc/fstab entry has been changed... you no longer have permission to run because its mounted w/ root as owner i bet... probably as ntfs instead of ntfs-3g
[21:28] <P_Kable|Laptop> what is that new stuff with ifupdown ...
[21:28] <compengi> sken, sure you can.
[21:28] <rockyrock> compengi: ﻿but why ubuntu doesn't mount it automatically?
[21:28] <Neeeewbee> Is this the only ubuntu channel to get help? I'm having a desktop session problem and just have a couple questions
[21:28] <unop> rockyrock, there's something you need to check/enable in gnome - but i don't use gnome enough
[21:29] <bradL1> can someone help me with changing my screen resolution?
[21:29] <Freon> can you ping your router bi it'S ip-address?
[21:29] <rkvirani> Anyone here know if Sun Microsystems gives support for ubuntu?
[21:29] <rkvirani> (like commercial support)
[21:29] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, I will try to move it to ext3 fs and see how it goes thank you
[21:29] <kebomix> yesterday after upgrading to ubuntu 8.10 , i couldnt open ubuntu anymore , and solution is that i reinstalled ubuntu 8.04 again !!!! , any help ?
[21:29] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: No, thats way too much work
[21:29] <rockyrock> unop: i didn't have such problems with previous versions of ubuntu
[21:29] <Flannel> Neeeewbee: This is the place to go for your help, yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup explains how to remove stuff from your sessions.
[21:29] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, I will have to go away for a while now
[21:29] <bradL1> Can someone help me with changing my screen resolution?
[21:29] <rockyrock> unop: what's the -t option in mount command?
[21:30] <Neeeewbee> Thank Gaaawd.. Flannel you rock.. Thanks.. have a good day
[21:30] <Flannel> !repeat | rkvirani
[21:30] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: There is an easier fix, fyi
[21:30] <compengi> rockyrock, try man mount
[21:30] <Megaqwerty> bradL1: System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[21:30] <sken> i like very much that darkroom theme, it's very cool
[21:30] <unop> rockyrock, it's all documented in the mount manpage, -t is filesystem _type_
[21:30] <bradL1> it only gives me two potions
[21:30] <Flannel> Neeeewbee: if you can't get to a GUI log in, under "sessions" at GDM (thats the login screen) choose "Safe Gnome" (or something similar)
[21:30] <kami1> hi guys I'm quite new to ubuntu and I just installed the 64b version but I have a problem with sound if any of my application tries to play any sound it only plays for a second and then repeat until I cancel the process can anybody help me please?
[21:30] <rockyrock> compengi: do you know why it didn't mount it automatically?
[21:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> what is setting new software channels supposed to mean?
[21:30] <kane77> Tundrayeti312, what it is?
[21:30] <jZed> what's the easiest way to go from a desktop install (8.,10) to a server install ... reinstall? or individual package(s)?
[21:31] <Flannel> jZed: You want to remove your GUI?
[21:31] <jZed> if packages, which?
[21:31] <Meindert> Hallo, does anybody know if the md5sum of xubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso is correct? I downloaded it twice from different sites and got this md5sum: b6480199ab98b996f052208fd947e59c  xubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso which is different from the md5sum on the site.
[21:31] <rockyrock> compengi: i had same problem with external hard disks
[21:31] <jZed> nah, keep the gui but I want virtualization and a webserver mysql etc.
[21:31] <benjo> hii
[21:31] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: If you go to Applications->System-Tools-> is there an app called ntfs-3g?
[21:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> then install what you need, jZed
[21:31] <mordof> is there a way to check the internet connection activity in the console?
[21:31] <Freon> ping
[21:32] <Tulimaq> rockyrock, try to check it for errors i had  the same problem before
[21:32] <Freon> @mordof
[21:32] <sken> which is the best in ubuntu limewire or frostwire?
[21:32] <Flannel> jZed: Linux doesn't differentiate between "servers" and "desktops", theyre all jsut programs. the difference between the server and desktop version of Ubuntu is default packages.  So, just install the stuff you want ontop.
[21:32] <mordof> Freon: activity
[21:32] <Freon> mordof: ???
[21:32] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can I check which packages are dependant of a given package?
[21:32] <mordof> Freon: not whether it works or not
[21:32] <Flannel> jZed: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and or !lamp (it'll tell you how to use tasksel, if the previous page is more detail than you want)
[21:32] <rockyrock> Tulimaq: what errors?? And how to do the check in ubuntu?
[21:32] <unop> Azhi_Dahaka, apt-cache depends package_name
[21:32] <Freon> ok?
[21:32] <Odd-rationale> i beleive the server version has a differnet kernel by default... but everything are in the repos...
[21:33] <mordof> Freon: so? ping doesn't keep track of what you're doing and tell you what's going on
[21:33] <P_Kable|Laptop> anybody had problem upgrading from hardy to intrepid? I do not have internet access !
[21:33] <Flannel> Odd-rationale: the -server kernel is in the repos as well, but if he's running a desktop, he doesn't want that kernel anyway
[21:33] <ljuwaidah> later, thanks
[21:33] <dimitree> How to install libavcodec1d on Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:33] <DaveKong> P_Kable I did a fresh install on my laptop and wifi works fine
[21:33] <Freon> mordof: what exactly are your intentions?
[21:34] <unop> mordof, ntop perhaps or have a look at the files in /proc/net/*
[21:34] <Tulimaq> rockyrock, use fsck
[21:34] <mordof> Freon: i want to be able to see how much my internet is being used, a network monitor i guess? to tell me the speeds that it's using
[21:34] <sken> which is the best in ubuntu limewire or frostwire?
[21:34] <Freon> ...ok...
[21:34] <unop> !forstwire | sken
[21:35] <Flannel> sken: frostwire, see the wiki page for instructions on installing it
[21:35] <Freon> there are several was...
[21:35] <unop> !frostwire | sken
[21:35] <sken> ok thx
[21:35] <rockyrock> unop compengi: do i have to do the same steps every time i need to mount the memory card???? That's horriable!
[21:35] <compengi> sken, frostwire is open source, which is linux native :)
[21:35] <sken> ok
[21:35] <compengi> rockyrock, add it to your fstab
[21:35] <unop> compengi, eh?  something being open-source doesn't make it native to linux.
[21:35] <rockyrock> compengi: how to do that?
[21:35] <scrosson> Hi id like to ask if there is a way to restore my ubuntu installation back to what it was before i played around with madwifi (like back to the default settings) without compelely reformating the partition and drive.
[21:36] <jZed> [Flannel] thanks, yes I understand it's all just packages, I was wondering if there was some meta-package that would grab stuff, especiall KVM
[21:36] <kami1> Hi I have a problem with sound - if any application plays any sound the sound will play only for a second and then repeat the section until I cancel the process can anybody help me out please?
[21:36] <mordof> Freon: reason being, ssh is responding slowly.. i should be the only one doing anything with it, so it should be fast. i wanna know if anything else is going on.
[21:36] <compengi> unop, linux native meaning which linux prefers the most
[21:36] <Freon> mordof: you can add a panel applet wichch shows your inet act...
[21:36] <sluggy> hi all
[21:36] <unop> compengi, linux is an operating system, it has no preferences
[21:36] <mordof> Freon: console app
[21:36] <mordof> Freon: shell/bash? maybe
[21:36] <Freon> iptraf
[21:36] <mordof> Freon: if that's what it's called. ssh, no X
[21:37] <Neeeewbee> Can someone tell which files to remove to bring Metacity back to a defualt desktop session state?
[21:37] <sken> when i want to login as a root terminal says su: Authentication failure
[21:37] <Flannel> KMan: reboot, at the GRUB menu (hit escape) after POST to see the grub menu, hit 'e' on the first entry, remove quiet and splash from the end of the line, then boot that.  It'll give you a lot more information
[21:37] <sken> why?
[21:37] <jrib> !root | sken
[21:37] <PovAddict> sken: use sudo to get root access
[21:37] <Freon> its a tool to analyze traffic workin in your console
[21:37] <scrosson> Hi id like to ask if there is a way to restore my ubuntu installation back to what it was before i played around with madwifi (like back to the default settings) without compelely reformating the partition and drive.
[21:38] <mordof> Freon: ty
[21:38] <compengi> !fstab | rockyrock
[21:38] <Freon> ty?
[21:38] <mordof> Freon: thank you
[21:38] <rockyrock> compengi:  BUT AGAIN, WHY UBUNTU DOESN'T MOUNT IT AUTOMATICALLY??????? I DOn't want to do that for every memory card i insert!!!
[21:38] <Freon> ohh ... np
[21:38] <Tundrayeti312> kane77: u there?
[21:38] <Flannel> !caps | rockyrock
[21:39] <Gubr> Hi there
[21:39] <ivan_> hi all
[21:39] <Freon> hi Gubr, hi Ivan
[21:39] <lifestream> Hello, .... my mouse shortcuts "next song, previous, vol up/down" got all messed up. I can no longer use them. going to keyboard Shortcuts and adding them doesnt work  :P How can I restore that function?
[21:39] <Gubr> Vanya, privet! Ty tozhe za sovetom?
[21:39] <rkvirani> rockyrock: is there a problem with your capslock key
[21:40] <justin_> windows vista hard drive failure. i just got owned
[21:40] <rockyrock> rkvirani: yeah
[21:40] <KMan> um... we're talkin bout ubuntu
[21:40] <Gubr> Freon: can I have some help with WiFi adjusting on my samsung laptop?
[21:40] <johnsie> hi... im having problems with gnome starting. The hard disk goes wild and the computer slowy grinds to a halt while the hard disk is churning
[21:40] <sqrammi> Is there any way to list all "required" packages?
[21:40] <rkvirani> rockyrock: well get a new one then!
[21:40] <sqrammi> as opposed to all installed packages?
[21:40] <snova> how do i change the cursor theme for qt/kde programs?
[21:40] <Flannel> sqrammi: Define required
[21:40] <rockyrock> rkvirani: already did
[21:41] <Gubr> Freon: in kubuntu 8.04.1
[21:41] <ivan_> i have a cable internet, i want share internet, what can i do? I need a AP or router?
[21:41] <PovAddict> router
[21:41] <compengi> rockyrock, what's your output of "groups"
[21:41] <Neeeewbee> wow.. ubuntu is about useless if you have no doc's that explain which files under the hood do what. All doc's tell you HOWTO do stuff through the gui. But if Ubuntu breaks, which it does constantly you have know support.. CYA ubuntu.. pos
[21:41] <rockyrock> rkvirani: and sorry!
[21:41] <bradL1> How can I increase my screen resolution? My only options are 800:600 or 600:400?
[21:41] <Freon> Gubr: i'm no expert in wifi, but give it a try i u want...
[21:41] <PovAddict> ivan_: maybe your computer can behave as a "router" for your purposes, but you need *two* network cards to do that
[21:41] <johnsie> newbee quit trolling
[21:41] <sqrammi> Flannel: some packages get marked at "required" when I install (like aptitude if I do apt-get install aptitude).  others do not (like any packages that aptitude depends on)
[21:41] <Slart> Neeeewbee: bye bye, nice of you to drop by
[21:42]  * rockyrock says sorry to the channel :(
[21:42] <sqrammi> at=as
[21:42] <rockyrock> compengi: didn't understand you!
[21:42] <compengi> rockyrock, type "groups" in terminal
[21:42] <Finn_M> i haven't been on IRC in ages, i don't remember the etiquette.
[21:42] <rockyrock> compengi: vboxusers adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner fuse lpadmin admin mythtv
[21:43] <Flannel> sqrammi: I'm not sure I follow.  Nor have I ever heard of a package being marked as "required" (except for in the context of dependencies)
[21:43] <tt3l3r> hey, does anyone know how I can browse my hard drive in kubuntu? If I go to "Storage Media" and click on my drive I get the message "Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" dosen't exist". This disk is encrypted.
[21:43] <Gubr> Freon: well after installin kubuntu - it found WiFi equipment, but it doesn't see any WiFi nets around - the same time another laptop with wista having internet through WiFi.
[21:43] <netof_100> join #campus-party
[21:43] <jZed> [newbee] under the hood is debian and there's lots of documentation for that, crybaby
[21:43] <Flannel> netof_100: Please don't do that here
[21:43] <sqrammi> Flannel: exactly, in the context of dependencies
[21:43] <PovAddict> netof_100: you joined just to advertise your channel?
[21:43] <compengi> rockyrock, you are missing storage group
[21:43] <Slart> Finn_M: behave like you normally would among people.. that's about it.. if you have a question about ubuntu just ask
[21:43] <rockyrock> compengi: so?
[21:43] <Freon> Gurb: can you tell me what y have tried allready
[21:43] <johnsie> is there script executed then gnome starts that decides which services start?
[21:43] <Flannel> sqrammi: required dependencies are ones that... are dependencies of the package (or of packages of packages) that you specify to install.
[21:43] <sqrammi> Flannel: is there any way to find out which installed packages are required
[21:43] <Finn_M> i feel like a moocher just logging in to ask about bluetooth problems
[21:43] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:44] <lequtix> how do i get openarena 0.8.0 afer installing 8.10??  i only get 0.7.7 and it doesn't work well..
[21:44] <Freon> sorry Gubr
[21:44] <netof_100> can any one tell me the name of a software for virtual optical drive?
[21:44] <Gubr> Freon: I saw...
[21:44] <Flannel> sqrammi: You want to list all the packages that are dependencies of something else then?
[21:44] <netof_100> I need to mount an iso
[21:44] <paul____> Does anyone know of an a WineHQ IRC channel?
[21:44] <Flannel> paul____: #winehq
[21:44] <paul____> thank you
[21:44] <sqrammi> Flannel: ok, yeah, I'm thinking a "required' package is exactly the opposite.  No, I want to list all packages that have dependencies
[21:44] <Tom_Davis> netof_100: sudo mount -o loop /path /mnt/path
[21:44] <Finn_M> in any case, does anyone have any experience making a dell bluetooth mouse work on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:44] <Flannel> !iso | netof_100
[21:44] <Slart> Finn_M: ok, try putting all the needed information in one line, version of ubuntu, problem you're having.. what you've tried.. any error messages etc
[21:44] <Freon> netof_100: mount -o loop isofile mountpoint
[21:44] <sqrammi> Flannel: i.e. I don't want to see any packages that were just installed to fulfill some other dependency
[21:45] <_Carrie_> hello, again :) I have a Lexmark 5000 series printer located here http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi but it's not working in ubuntu. Can anyone advise on a linux package or driver to make it work?
[21:45] <Slart> Finn_M: if noone answers just ask again in 10 minutes or so, you can use the time to search the forums
[21:45] <Finn_M> i get 'Error: no host' when trying to connect the mouse, it's even listed in the bluetooth device listing
[21:45] <Tom_Davis> lexmark does not like linux
[21:45] <compengi> rockyrock, gpasswd -a your_user storage
[21:45] <bradL1> How can I increase my screen resolution? My only options are 800:600 or 600:400?
[21:45] <Tulimaq> netof_100, gmountiso if u want gui
[21:45] <Flannel> sqrammi: that's exactly the opposite of what a 'reqiured' package is.  But, look into deborphan, it... sort of could do what you want it to do.
[21:45] <vixey> ubuntu 8.10 CD didn't boot :( ... I guess it doesn't work on mac hardware?
[21:45] <sqrammi> Flannel: ok, thanks
[21:45] <jrib> vixey: intel mac?
[21:45] <Gubr> Freon: well I didn't try anything... I do not know what to try! ))) I checked if it works with cable - it does. But WiFi on the laptop doesn't see the WiFi net from AP.
[21:45] <lifestream> QUESTION: ... Intrepid says it's 9..46 instead of 5.46pm .... :P .......
[21:45] <Flannel> lifestream: Are you dualbooting with windows?
[21:46] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing
[21:46] <Freon> Gubr: ok so lets start
[21:46] <rockyrock> compengi: unknown group: storage, gpasswd: Permission denied.
[21:46] <lifestream> Flannel,  no, with linux MInt
[21:46] <Gubr> Freon: I suppose it's a problem with drivers.
[21:46] <Gubr> Freon: ok letts...
[21:46] <compengi> rockyrock, with sudo
[21:46] <netof_100> thanks for the gmountiso
[21:46] <rockyrock> compengi: why don't i have that group already when i installed ubuntu?? is it a bug or something??
[21:46] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing ...8.10rc
[21:46] <Flannel> lifestream: One of your OSes is set to use the hardware clock as local time, the other is set to use hardware clock as UTC (the latter is the default on almost all non-windows systems)
[21:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> hmm... can i upgrade to ibex from an ISO image?
[21:46] <kami1> Hello again I had a problem with sound in Linux mint I tried both 32b and 64b now I have edubuntu 64b and the same problem ﻿- if any application plays any sound the sound will play only for a second and then repeat itself until I cancel the process can anybody help me out please?
[21:47] <Omnius> What's up with the new kernel out a day after release? Were they not allowed to put in in the intrepid release, or was it new stuff today?
[21:47] <ditch64> !grub
[21:47] <rockyrock> compengi: yeah that's was with sudo
[21:47] <vixey> jrib, yes
[21:47] <Freon> Gubr: tell me what chipset of your pc/laptpo
[21:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> because downloading packages it's taking a lot
[21:47] <RickZilla> I just upgraded my ubuntu distro to 8.10, but I also have edubuntu 8.04...did my recent upgrade automatically update edubuntu to 8.10, or should I do that manually?
[21:47] <lifestream> Flannel,  UTC eh? *goes fiddle with time settings* hehe, sounds so silly, thanks :P
[21:47] <jrib> vixey: did you hold down the c key while booting?
[21:47] <rockyrock> compengi: sudo gpasswd -a rockyrock storage
[21:47] <Flannel> Azhi_Dahaka: You can upgrade with an alternate CD
[21:47] <Flannel> RickZilla: Your Edubuntu was ontop of your Ubuntu? or did you dual boot for some silly reason?
[21:48] <vixey> jrib, no, I chose the CD in startup items then restarted from maco s
[21:48] <Pelo> ok I give up , how do I get rid of the wheelchair icon in the top panel ?
[21:48] <RickZilla> Flannel:  Didn't dual boot...I installed ubuntu first, then edubuntu
[21:48] <Flannel> RickZilla: (at what point during boot did you choose between Edubuntu and Ubuntu?)
[21:48] <Flannel> RickZilla: right.  Edubuntu is now upgraded.
[21:48]  * Pelo pokes Flannel  in the ribs
[21:48] <RickZilla> Flannel:  Thanks
[21:48] <f|uke> oh man,. the new dual-screen support is way better
[21:48] <jrib> vixey: what exactly happens?  Does it go straight to os x and not try to boot the cd?
[21:48] <Azhi_Dahaka> But i need to burn it?
[21:48] <Gubr> Freon: sorry, it takes time for me to find this info in Ubuntu...
[21:48] <netof_100> can any one tell me the best way to install photoshop in ubuntu... I've heard about using Virtual Box, or crossover... what do you think is best?
[21:48] <KMan> ubuntu isnt starting up, can some1 help me???
[21:48] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: Right-Click on Applications and choose "Edit Menus"
[21:48] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing ...8.10rc
[21:49] <Flannel> KMan: did you turn off splash and quiet and see the more specific time its having an issue?
[21:49] <wolfwalker> Wow.......... looks like I picked the wrong week to have a system problem..........
[21:49] <Freon> Gubr: wanna give up?
[21:49] <RickZilla> netof_100:  Photoshop?  Didn't know you could do that in linux.  I use GIMP, personally
[21:49] <Ch1ppy> Hey, just upgraded to 8.10 and I can't access any of my other tty's - ctrl+alt+FX doesn't work like it did before the upgrade, I just get a blank screen... can anyone help me out?
[21:49] <vixey> jrib, it actually just gave this white screen.. I waited a bit then the CD stopped spinning and was ejected. So I had to us the mac os disk to restart back into my computer
[21:49] <Pelo> Megaqwerty, that only brings up the alacarte menu manager
[21:49] <emilien> kami1: been looking around looks like a bu have you tried alsa or any others ?
[21:49] <f|uke> Twinview in 8.10 is the shit,.. it screwed up the background, but now they act like seperate displays
[21:49] <Rafeiro> heya
[21:49] <noodlesgc> !language
[21:49] <SlimeyPete> RickZilla: Crossover / Wine will run it
[21:49] <Gubr> Freon: nope, just apologize for late reply in advance! )
[21:49] <jrib> vixey: ok.  Did you check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded?
[21:49] <KMan> Flannel: i cant, the comp wont even turn on
[21:49] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: right, and from there you can edit the menu to your heart's content
[21:50] <KMan> brb
[21:50] <Freon> oh i see
[21:50] <Rafeiro> i cant get to save my network settings.. since i used them manual.. is this  a know bug?
[21:50] <f|uke> sorry. Twinview is the crap!
[21:50] <Flannel> KMan: define "wont turn on"
[21:50] <Freon> Gubr: try lspci
[21:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, so can i upgrade from the iso?
[21:50] <Finn_M> ﻿I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on an Inspiron 1525 and trying to get my bluetooth mouse to work. It's listed in the device listing, but when I try to connect the mouse it tells me 'Error: no host'. I am dualbooting with Vista and the mouse works fine there, so it's not a hardware problem. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:50] <ditch64> hello, i have a problem with booting the computer, whenever i attempt to boot, it gets to grub and gives me error 21, i did the same install on my laptop and everything works great. but on this desktop for some reason it will not work, i have reinstalled the OS like 10 times by now (not eggarating) could someone please help me?
[21:50] <jrib> Azhi_Dahaka: only the alternate iso
[21:50] <f|uke> Somehow that just doesnt sound as good
[21:50] <Flannel> !upgrade | Azhi_Dahaka
[21:50] <Ch1ppy> (Sorry, don't know if this got through the first time)Hey, just upgraded to 8.10 and I can't access any of my other tty's - ctrl+alt+FX doesn't work like it did before the upgrade, I just get a blank screen... can anyone help me out?
[21:51] <Gubr> Freon: I will take it from google )))
[21:51] <netof_100> I'm installing photoshop because I'm in a photoshop course and I want to have exactly the same no Gimp, but thanks
[21:51] <mopped> My headset is #1 on cat /proc/asound/devices, and I need it to be #0, any tips?
[21:51] <Gubr> Freon: Intel 945 GM Chipset
[21:51] <kami1> ﻿emilien: actually I have alsa drivers but I don't really have a lot experience with them...
[21:51] <Pelo> Megaqwerty, , I'm not talking about the menu , I'm talking about the wheelchair access icon in the notification area on the right side of the top panel,  it's for special access features . like magnifihying glass and such  , I uninstalled all I could think of but the icon still starts up and I can't figure out what application it is for
[21:51] <Freon> ok
[21:51] <RickZilla> netof_100:  That would be a good reason to run Photoshop
[21:51] <vixey> jrib, I can't find the MD5.. the iso I downloaded did boot in VMware though
[21:51] <kami1> ﻿emilien: only the default
[21:51] <ryancr> I have two monitors plugged in but "Screen Resolution" only shows one, do I need to edit my xorg.conf to add a second monitor (I thought we were past this)
[21:51] <Flannel> netof_100: You'll likely want to use some sort of virtualization.  Although you might also check out wine.  See #winehq and ask them about how well your specific photoshop version works with wine
[21:52] <Freon> Gubr: ok, try iwconfig, what's the result?
[21:52] <Pelo> ryancr, nvidia card ? install nvidia-settings,  you can set if from there
[21:52] <jrib> vixey: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS  Also, try to burn at 2x or 4x
[21:52] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: ah, it might be "Visual Assistance" which you can disable in System>Preferences>Sessions
[21:52] <emilien> kami1: in sound tab play around with commands , else try disabling acpi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21189
[21:52] <f|uke> Ryancr: 8.04 or 8.10 ? and yah, what chipset
[21:52] <vixey> ok it has the correct MD5
[21:52] <wolfwalker> What repo is XChat in in 8.10 and how to I turn that repo on?  All I can get is XChat gnome.
[21:52] <netof_100> to have is a virtual machine is too complicated for me, so I'm trying wine or crossover
[21:52] <bradL1> I have some windows that won't close, how do I force them to close?
[21:52] <ryancr> Pelo: nvidia-settings works fine, but I need to rotate a single montior, and TwinView doesn't allow that
[21:52] <Pelo> Megaqwerty, already done which is why I'm so puzzled
[21:53] <Gubr> Freon: sorry for stupid question, but where should I type this "iwconfig"? I just started with linux...
[21:53] <Flannel> KMan: reboot, at the GRUB menu (hit escape) after POST to see the grub menu, hit 'e' on the first entry, remove quiet and splash from the end of the line, then boot that (by hitting 'b' if I remember, but follow the onscreen instructions).  It'll give you a lot more information
[21:53] <ryancr> f|uke: 8.10
[21:53] <Pelo> ryancr, might want to use seperate X then
[21:53] <mopped> My headset is #1 on cat /proc/asound/devices, and I need it to be #0, so its the default sound output - how do i do this
[21:53] <Slart> !info xchat
[21:53] <rockyrock> compengi: so?
[21:53] <Mark_Lawrence> Hi.  I just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04.  Upgrade seemed to go fine, although a lot of 'obsolete' packages got uninstalled.  Now, on reboot, it gets as far as loading screen & then black screen with a few commands on there  -  but nothing else happens.  Help!!!
[21:53] <Freon> Gubr: can you start a terminal?
[21:53] <Pelo> ryancr, I recommend you try and ask in #nvidia , they might have a clue
[21:53] <Gubr> Freon: "run command"?
[21:53] <wolfwalker> Ain't dunnit
[21:53] <ryancr> Pelo: yeah, thats where I thought the Screen Resolution app might come in handy
[21:53] <Freon> try it
[21:53] <NicEXE> when the grub dialog is shown and I select any of the prompted linux selections, grub returns me an error 17 (the selected volume can't be mounted" What should I do?
[21:53] <wolfwalker> All search gives me is xchat gnome
[21:54] <f|uke> still, you should see the second monitor just by clicking "detect displays"
[21:54] <ryancr> f|uke: yeah, thats what I thought, but its not there
[21:54] <noodlesgc> wolfwalker try this: sudo apt-get install xchat
[21:54] <ditch64> whenever someones free, i could use help with grub. i have a lot of time so no rush: i get error 21 i am not dual booting or anything i just did a fresh install of the latest ubuntu
[21:54] <joe__> Mark_Lawrence : try reinstalling
[21:54] <Mark_Lawrence> lol
[21:54] <wolfwalker> That would work
[21:54] <compengi> rockyrock, i'm checking the correct group for automounting
[21:54] <rockyrock> compengi: ok
[21:55] <gonein> anyone have a recommendation for reliable vps hosting?
[21:55] <RickZilla> Mark_Lawrence:  Might have to get a 8.10 cd and reinstall, if your upgrade is working that way
[21:55] <Freon> Gubr: still there?
[21:55] <f|uke> ryancr, why not use nvidia control? You can set it as a seperate screen for x-server there
[21:55] <tuko> I have a HP laptop and my quickplay button worked fine on Hardy, but its not working on Intrepid, anyone have the same problem
[21:55] <tuko> ?
[21:55] <NicEXE> when the grub dialog is shown and I select any of the prompted linux selections, grub returns me an error 17 "the selected volume can't be mounted" What should I do?
[21:55] <Mark_Lawrence> wasn't much of an upgrade then
[21:55] <ryancr> f|uke, hmm must have missed that, let me look
[21:55] <Gubr> Freon: yes, I foud terminal! ))) I'm cool! And run the iwconfig...
[21:55] <emilien> kami1: looks similar to your problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/238794 have a look around can't help any more sorry
[21:55] <RickZilla> Mark_Lawrence:  I'd say something went terribly wrong.  Can you reinstall 8.04 and try it again?
[21:55] <Freon> Gubr: yeeah...
[21:56] <compengi> rockyrock, *but* automounting always goes through gnome-volume-manager it's responsible for it. if you're added to the automounting group, then blame gnome-volume-manager
[21:56] <Freon> Gubr: the result?
[21:56] <Gubr> Freon: ESSID: "" Nickname: ""
[21:56] <f|uke> ryancr: xserver display configuration page,. theres an option there
[21:56] <ryancr> f|uke: does nvidia-settings need to be run as root?
[21:56] <f|uke> No
[21:56] <Gubr> Freon: Access Point : Not -Associated
[21:56] <Mark_Lawrence> i just downloaded the 8.10 CD so will give that a go
[21:56] <turko> I have a HP laptop and my quickplay button worked fine on Hardy, but its not working on Intrepid, anyone have the same problem?
[21:56] <ryancr> ok, just wasn;t sure about the 'write to xorg' part
[21:56] <Pelo> later folks
[21:56] <Gubr> Freon: Power management: off
[21:57] <Gubr> Freon: signal level: 0
[21:57] <Mark_Lawrence> is it possible to reinstall without overwriting docs on the hdd?
[21:57] <f|uke> yah. just gotta trust that they wont screw you ;)
[21:57] <DEdwards> tuko, try system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts
[21:57] <compengi> rockyrock, check it out in system>preferences
[21:57] <Freon> Gubr: iwlist [interface] scanning
[21:57] <turko> i already tried
[21:57] <turko> when i use it nothing happens
[21:58] <turko> i tested in xev
[21:58] <Gubr> Freon: What to type instead of interface? Or type it exact as you did it?
[21:58] <turko> it has no output
[21:58] <NicEXE> when the grub dialog is shown and I select any of the prompted Ubuntu selections, grub returns me an error 17 "the selected volume can't be mounted" What should I do? I need to keep my web server open.
[21:58] <rockyrock> compengi: there is nothing called: ﻿gnome-volume-manager in System-preferences!
[21:59] <ryancr> f|uke: lol, it says I need to "save to X configuration file" but when I hit the button nvidia-settings segfaults
[21:59] <Freon> Gubr: that interface that was found by iwconfig
[21:59] <Drizz> I have a Netgear DG834G and cannot get wireless working in ubuntu for the life of me.. I have been searching for days for some help. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I really want to get the newest ubuntu rls, but if I cant get it working with my router whats the point
[21:59] <Tulimaq> Gubr, "iwlist scan"
[21:59] <kami1> ﻿emilien: thanks anyway I already been over the forums but I was unable to find any solution so I'm stuck .. :) but I hope somebody will find a solution
[21:59] <ditch64> hello, i have a problem with booting the computer, whenever i attempt to boot, it gets to grub and gives me error 21, i have reinstalled the OS like 10 times by now (not eggarating) could someone please help me? and i have reinstalled grub already still no go.. i type setup (hd0,0) and i get Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no every time
[22:00] <Gubr> Freon: [interface] Interface doesn't support scanning
[22:00] <runpain2> It works now
[22:00] <le000> Hi
[22:00] <Pelo> can someone with the wheelchair icon in their toppanel notification area click on it and tell me the exact title to the window, in english
[22:00] <le000> I got a problem
[22:00] <rockyrock> compengi: and i'm not added to automounting group!
[22:00] <runpain2> my wifi works eeeppee
[22:00] <Finn_M> ﻿﻿I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on an Inspiron 1525 and trying to get my bluetooth mouse to work. It's listed in the device listing, but when I try to connect the mouse it tells me something about OBEX, and 'Error: no host' or 'Error: host down'. I am dualbooting with Vista and the mouse works fine there, so it's not a hardware problem. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:00] <sken> hekko
[22:00] <jan__> how come I can't install Songbird and some other apps via the Add/Remove... Menu? Will it ever happen?
[22:00] <sken> hello
[22:01] <le000> im on the root group but i cannot modify a file that root owns and i cannot use sudo!!!!
[22:01] <rockyrock> compengi: my groups are: vboxusers adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner fuse lpadmin admin mythtv
[22:01] <cription> I am having problems playing .avi's in ubunutu.. it flickers alot, i have an ati card and i have read that its a common problem, but i have been unable to find a solution, does anyone know of one?
[22:01] <mopped> http://pastie.org/305247 - How can I make my headset #0? :P
[22:01] <Pelo> jan__, songbird is a propriatary app, you need to get it from their site
[22:01] <Freon> Gubr: that depends on your hardware... what interfaces found iwconfig?
[22:01] <Drizz> jan__ go to getdeb.net and download the deb package
[22:01] <ditch64> im just gonna come back later
[22:01] <le000> ﻿im on the root group but i cannot modify a file that root owns and i cannot use sudo!!!!
[22:01] <jan__> thanks Pelo and Drizz
[22:01] <Pelo> cription, , install all the gstreamer 0.10 packages from synaptic that might help
[22:02] <jrib> le000: why are you in the root group...?  And why can't you sudo?
[22:02] <stage3> ditch64, if I remember, that error happened when the Grub don't found the kernel image
[22:02] <cription> pelo: thanks let me try that
[22:02] <Mark_Lawrence> ok... thanx 4 t help.
[22:02] <nikolam> cription, install appropriate driver for your card.  http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[22:02] <Mark_Lawrence> cheers
[22:02] <Gubr> Freon: lo, eth0, wmaster0, wlan0 - if I'm not wrong about meaning of interface word! )))
[22:02] <le000> i added myself to it
[22:02] <emilien> kami1:  well good luck , sorry could not give you a solution
[22:02] <Drizz> I know things are a bit crazy in here right now, but can anyone help with wireless Netgear DG834G?
[22:02] <jrib> le000: sure, but WHY?
[22:02] <vixey> I tried again holding c.. nothing though :( I think linux just hates me
[22:03] <jrib> vixey: did you burn at 2x or 4x?
[22:03] <le000> because im tired of using sudo everytime
[22:03] <le000> it sucks
[22:03] <Freon> Gubr: youre exactly right, some of them have "no wireless extention"
[22:03] <cription> nikolam: i did
[22:03] <vlt> Hello. Would you reccommend the ubuntu amd64 version for desktop use? What disadvantages do I have to expect?
[22:03] <vixey> I don't know what speed it did it
[22:03] <compengi> rockyrock, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:03] <Gubr> Tulimaq: thanks - didn't help though. wlan0 Failed to read scan data: resource temporary unavailable
[22:03] <jrib> le000: undo what you did.  What you did sucks.  We can fix your sudo after and help you not have to type sudo so much...
[22:03] <Pelo> le000, adding yourself to the root group does not make you login as root
[22:03] <melissa_> hi
[22:03] <vixey> it did a verify after
[22:03] <melissa_> =)
[22:03] <compengi> rockyrock, it's not for you
[22:03] <Gubr> Freon: ok, I got what to type! )
[22:03] <Pelo> I need someone with the wheels
[22:03] <Freon> Gubr: we need the wlan interface...
[22:04] <Tulimaq> Gubr, maybe some driver issue then ?
[22:04] <melissa_> i'm italian
[22:04] <Pelo> I need someone with the wheelchair icon in their top panel notification area
[22:04] <le000> and i cannot use sudo, because it says "myuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[22:04] <rockyrock> compengi: okay didn't open it
[22:04] <Pelo> !it | melissa_
[22:04] <jrib> vixey: many people with problems, have them go away after burning at a slow speed
[22:04] <vixey> well I'll give it a go
[22:04] <jrib> le000: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then remove your user from the root group and add him to the "admin" group
[22:04] <vixey> is there a list of hardware  which it is known to work on?
[22:04] <vixey> I wonder if anybody before me has succeeded
[22:05] <Gubr> Tulimaq: Probably, but I hope it is mu dumness only! )
[22:05] <DEdwards> turko, I'm sorry, but don't know what the problem could be
[22:05] <jrib> vixey: works fine on my macbook
[22:05] <le000> and how do i do that? the commands to do that i mean...
[22:05] <Tulimaq> Gubr, which card u have
[22:05] <Gubr> Freon: wlan0 Failed to read scan data: Resource temporary unavailable
[22:05] <compengi> rockyrock, try to ask around, i have no idea. you could manually remount your drives, but for automounting you should ask a bit around
[22:05] <jrib> le000: deluser your_username root; adduser your_username admin
[22:05] <DEdwards> turko, all of my keyboards of various configurations work great plug n play
[22:05] <le000> ok
[22:06] <le000> im going to do that now
[22:06] <sta8is> hellp can anybody here to help me to detect my monitor to ubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:06] <rockyrock> compengi: thanks so much man
[22:06] <compengi> rockyrock, you are welcome :)
[22:06] <Gubr> Tulimaq: it is in laptop Samsung NP-Q35 - so I can look in internet... just tell me which card do you need to be descibed )))
[22:07] <erisco> is there an installer for ubuntu that fetches files from the Internet?
[22:07] <erisco> I know there is one somewhere...
[22:07] <jrib> !minimal | erisco
[22:07] <Tulimaq> Gubr, wifi card ofc
[22:07] <sta8is> hello can anybody here to help me to detect my monitor to ubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:07] <_Carrie_> hello, again :) I have a Lexmark 5000 series printer located here http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi but it's not working in ubuntu. Can anyone advise on a linux package or driver to make it work?
[22:08] <erisco> jrib, is that all they have?!? don't tell me this is true...
[22:08] <erisco> jrib, I need amd64 for 8.10...
[22:08] <vixey> on mac pro should I use amd 64 or i386?
[22:08] <Gubr> Freon: In description of the interface wlan0 there is something I do not like: "PowerManagement: off" and "RTS thr: off" - is this a problem? )
[22:08] <vixey> it is a 64 bit computer :/
[22:08] <erisco> its been HOURS and I cannot get anything to bloody work. I must vent. GAHHH
[22:08] <elamsusa> for mac pro, i386
[22:08] <elamsusa> at least from what I hear
[22:08] <Freon> Gubr: srry, got to bring my brother to a party, it seems like a firmware problem, try to google your chipset, firmware and ubuntu
[22:09] <vlt> How can I find out what packages are only available for 32bit ubuntu?
[22:09] <Gubr> Tulimaq: http://www.samsung.com/he/products/notebookcomputer/q_series/np_q35.asp
[22:09] <Freon> Gubr: good luck!
[22:09] <Freon> Gubr: cu
[22:09] <Gubr> Freon: Thanks a lot! Have a good party! )
[22:09] <jrib> erisco: it's just not linked: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[22:09] <aeselvenor> hello everyone, i'm having a wireless problem. lshw shows 2 wireless networking interfaces. the first is the one i want to use (has a correct configuration: driver=), but has no interface name. the second is listed as DISABLED, has no driver, but has the interface name "wlan0". i'm assuming the first one (with a different physical id) should be what the system recognizes as wlan0. any way to make that happen?
[22:09] <noodlesgc> vlt there are over 25,000 available for 32bit. you can browse at packages.ubuntu.com
[22:10] <qwe> Hello has any installed ubuntu on HP?
[22:10] <erisco> jrib, thanks... hopefully I can get this bloody thing to work
[22:10] <jrib> erisco: feel free to update the wiki :)
[22:10] <vlt> noodlesgc: I mean what packages are missing in ubuntu for amd64?
[22:10] <erisco> jrib, which is so highly unlikely at this point... I've tried at least 2 dozen ways to get ubuntu 8.10 installed
[22:10] <jrib> erisco: were you the one with the missing hard disks?
[22:11] <Aeosynth> when i play movies, they play extremely slowly, as in 1fps. can anyone tell me how to fix this? I'm using the default totem player.
[22:11] <noodlesgc> vlt ah. not sure how you would figure that out
[22:11] <amews_aj> When will OOo 3 be on the main servers ?
[22:11] <erisco> jrib, I am the one who cannot burn a cd and am trying to install it with any other mean
[22:11] <qwe> hello!
[22:11] <jrib> erisco: ah, good luck
[22:11] <erisco> jrib, and yes, I was having problems with not being able to partition anything
[22:11] <elamsusa> Vixey, are you installing using bootcamp?
[22:11] <Kumo> Good evening
[22:11] <qwe> I get this error when installing ubuntu
[22:11] <qwe> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[22:11] <erisco> jrib, and I doubt the net install is going to do anything different. I am so depressed -.-
[22:11] <Kumo> I'm having some trouble with the wireless connectivity.
[22:11] <Tulimaq> Gubr, make sure that u have canonical partner repository on
[22:11] <jrib> erisco: did you try 8.04?
[22:11] <vixey> elamsusa: no I just tried to boot off the CD
[22:12] <erisco> jrib, i am using 8.04
[22:12] <jrib> erisco: why not just upgrade?_
[22:12] <elamsusa> how does that work?
[22:12] <erisco> jrib, because I want to reformat
[22:12] <decherd1> NicEXE: the grub manual says that grub does not recognize the filesytem. Could it be directed to an NTFS partition (dual booting)?
[22:12] <vixey> it doesn't work
[22:12] <qwe> I get this error when installing ubuntu
 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! any one knows why?
[22:12] <mumbles> question , how do i upgrade from hardy to latest ?
[22:12] <mumbles> using terminonal
[22:12] <le000> thanks jrib or someone there with a J on the name
[22:12] <jrib> !upgrade > mumbles
[22:12] <jrib> le000: I'll take it :)
[22:12] <yow|x2> can someone help? - i cant run any 3d games in fullscreen.  tried all kinds of things to fix it, no progress. using nvidia
[22:12] <elamsusa> oh!
[22:12] <le000> =)
[22:12] <Gubr> Tulimaq: you just broke my brain! ))) If you mean to make sure the WiFi led is ON - it is ON! )))
[22:13] <elamsusa> I'm going to attempt bootcamp shortly
[22:13] <f|uke> whats the best app for mounting ISOs?
[22:13] <le000> i got to the root console and did what you said and gone perfect
[22:13] <jrib> le000: when you need to do a lot of sudo stuff use 'sudo -i' by the way.  And then 'exit' when you are done.  Should be a rare occasion though ;)
[22:13] <le000> but i dont like ubuntu keep asking me the root password
[22:13] <_Carrie_> fluke, mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point/file.iso
[22:13] <qwe> I get this error when installing ubuntu
 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[22:13] <mumbles> jrib:  using terminall ?
[22:13] <jrib> le000: you mean in the gui?
[22:13] <qwe> any one knows why?
[22:13] <jrib> mumbles: yeah?
[22:13] <icqnumber> qwe, did cd integrity check?
[22:14] <le000> yes
[22:14] <le000> like synaptics
[22:14] <f|uke> feh
[22:14] <f|uke> ty :P
[22:14] <sken> can anybody tell me any command to install java
[22:14] <_Carrie_> f|uke, or if you're into GUI's, give gISOMount a try :)
[22:14] <SilverStreak> Anyone know how to force xorg to prevent a device from being auto configured? I'm trying to use a controller with userspace drivers and xorg keeps mounting it as a mouse
[22:14] <jrib> le000: oh.  Well it does cache the password for 15 minutes.  You can increase that or remove the password for certain commands if it bothers you that much
[22:14] <icqnumber> qwe, have you checked your installation media for errors?
[22:14] <HorizonXP> !skype
[22:14] <mumbles> oh my cd has finished berning
[22:14] <jrib> !java > sken
[22:14] <qwe> it passed
[22:15] <Tulimaq> Gubr, go to System > Administration > Hardvare Drivers and check if u have wifi driver installed
[22:15] <le000> ok, but i think its better to keep it as it's !
[22:15] <uP|Warrior> I'm having problems with wireless in 8.10 with a 5300 card. I already removed ndiswrapper, lspci detects my card but iwconfig doesn't show it
[22:15] <le000> thanks
[22:15] <uP|Warrior> any idea why?
[22:15] <jrib> le000: k, np
[22:15] <qwe> icqnumber, yes, it worked fine
[22:15] <makkan> is there anyone who knows why avn doesn't work on asus eee?
[22:15] <le000> the funniest thing is if i had a similar problem on windows, i'd never find the answer... but here i got it in 20 seconds
[22:15] <icqnumber> qwe, what are you installing btw.?
[22:16] <danhs1> Hey I have a really weird question.  When I upgraded to intrepid I got a message that I had a degraded raid array.  md0 was degraded, etc....
[22:16] <danhs1> so I'm trying to get it setup again....but according to /proc/mdstat my raid array has dm-1 as a component disk
[22:16] <qwe> hardy heron 8.04
[22:16] <NicEXE> grub shows me a list of the available OSs every time I select one of the ubuntu OS (recovery mode or not) it shows me the error 17... If I select windows from the list grub launches windows normally...
[22:16] <danhs1> this doesn't make sense to me that it's not sda1.....
[22:16] <f|uke> _Carrie_: Ok, I admit. Thats handy :) ty
[22:16] <Gubr> Tulimaq: I do not have "Administration", I have "Hardware drivers manager" - will check there...
[22:16] <Flare183> qwe: ?
[22:16] <helbert> boa noite pessoal...
[22:16] <qwe> yes Flare183?
[22:16] <danhs1> so I'm not sure if intrepid did the dm-1 magic or if dm-1 is some kind of bundled disk representatoin of both disks, or what....
[22:16] <SilverStreak> anybody know how to prevent xorg from auto configuring a USB device?
[22:16] <Flare183> qwe: Oh sorry about that
[22:16] <icqnumber> qwe, 32, 64 bit?
[22:16] <helbert> sou novato no linux, alguem poderia me ajudar??
[22:16] <danhs1> but I really don't want to add sdb1 back into the array until I know what's going on, cause I don't want to fry hard drive
[22:16] <uP|Warrior> I'm having problems with wireless in 8.10 with a intel 5300 card. I already removed ndiswrapper, lspci detects my card but iwconfig doesn't show it
[22:17] <amews_aj> When will OOo 3 be on the main servers ?
[22:17] <Flare183> !en | helbert
[22:17] <jrib> !pt | helbert
[22:17] <qwe> 32
[22:17] <qwe> icqnumber its 32
[22:17] <icqnumber> and why not 8.10?
[22:17] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know how to roll back x to an older version??
[22:17] <qwe> i have only 8.04 Live CD with me
[22:17] <Kumo> Any quick fixes wor wireless cards that were working in 8.04 but not in 8.10?
[22:18] <Gubr> Tulimaq: "No proprietary  drivers are in use on this system"... I got to wrong place? Or I have no drivers?
[22:18] <Gubr> Tulimaq: it is written on the top of the window "Hardware drivers"
[22:18] <qwe> icqnumber , u thr :)
[22:19] <_Carrie_> !u | qwe
[22:19] <amews_aj> When will ooo 3 be available from the main servers on ubuntu ?
[22:19] <Swian> anyone have any major issues upgrading from .04 to .10?
[22:19] <Tulimaq> Gubr, no its the right place, check repositories now .. on my laptop i had to use partner repository to install the driver
[22:19] <csilk> amews_aj, when someone tests it, might not be for a while
[22:19] <amews_aj> k
[22:20] <Flare183> Swian: Issues like what?
[22:20] <DaveKong> does upgrading get rid of packages not part of the default install and reset stuff such as Firefox settings?
[22:20] <qwe> This is my exact problem i am trying to install ,and when i choose install ubuntu this comes  "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!""
[22:20] <csilk> amews_aj, there is a real simple way to upgrade if you're interested though
[22:20] <noodlesgc> amews_aj its hard to tell. most likely with 8.10.1 in 3 months, or in backports sooner
[22:20] <Slart> amews_aj: afaik it could be until the next version of ubuntu comes out
[22:20] <qwe> it seems this is a common problem form HP laptops
[22:20] <Swian> screen res, apps not working
[22:20] <helbert> tem alguem do brasil??
[22:20] <Slart> !br | helbert
[22:20] <helbert> gostaria de uma ajuda..
[22:20] <Flare183> !brazil | helbert
[22:20] <Flare183> oops
[22:20] <Swian> when I went from 7.10 to 8.04 I had issues with screen res
[22:20] <Flare183> Swian: Explain
[22:21] <Swian> I had to fight with X to get higher than 800x600
[22:21] <Swian> I don't want to do that again
[22:21] <f|uke> ok. Nuts to totem. I cant skip through this dvd.
[22:21] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing ...8.10rc
[22:21] <jjgalvez> Has anyone been able to install ia32-libs on a64 8.10?
[22:21] <f|uke> Can anyone suggest a solid media player?
[22:21] <Anza> what can I do to make my thunderbird open the emails below as it used to be, and not in a different window as its happening now??
[22:22] <csilk> amews_aj, there is a real simple way to upgrade if you're interested though?
[22:22] <Flare183> f|uke: Rhythmbox
[22:22] <amews_aj> csilk: I know
[22:22] <noodlesgc> f|uke banshee
[22:22] <Trailbrain> Hi, I just upgraded and can't connect to my shared folders on the network--any ideas?
[22:22] <Slart> Anza: I think it's called preview window.. it's in one of the menus
[22:22] <Swian> theres one
[22:22] <Gubr> Tulimaq: where are those repositories? I mean please talk to me as with 25 years old guy sitting near a laptop with kubuntu second time in his life. )))
[22:22] <Flare183> Trailbrain: Try using your subnet IP addres
[22:22] <Flare183> address*
[22:22] <KingFisher> does ubuntu come preinstalled with no machin nx?
[22:22] <Koordin> hi
[22:22] <Koordin> please could someone help me with this ?
[22:22] <Koordin> http://pastebin.com/d2d0d4a8c
[22:23] <Codemaster> ...lovely
[22:23] <Flare183> !hi | Koordin
[22:23] <f|uke> Rhythmbox for playing dvds / dvd files?
[22:23] <f|uke> O.o
[22:23] <f|uke> I'll check out Banshee
[22:23] <Trailbrain> Flare i'm wondering why Ubuntu seems to be on the wrong 'workgroup'
 VLC media player
[22:23] <Flare183> f|uke: no. If you want to do that then check out mplayer
[22:23] <jjgalvez> KingFisher: no
[22:23] <qwe> hello ! I am trying to instll 8.04 in a HP laptop and I am not able to install it via a LiveCd
[22:23] <Codemaster> so I am having this issue where in ubuntu, my keyboard and mouse don't work (not even ctrl+alt+f1). I have attempted to liveCD as well as my installation and both do not work. My keyboard works in the BIOS, however, so I am presuming this is an issue with Ubuntu
[22:23] <qwe> coul any one help me?
 VLC plays them all
[22:23] <Flare183> Trailbrain: Edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[22:24] <Gubr> Tulimaq: or describe me what is that repository itself and what is it for and I will look around! )
[22:24] <vixey> is there no lists anywhere of what hardware people have successfully installed ubuntu on?
[22:24] <Flare183> Trailbrain: Find and fix your workgroup
[22:24] <Anza> Slart: I just cannot find it :s
[22:24] <p2p> what was the name of the application for controling the menstrual cycle?
[22:24] <DaveKong> f|uke,  yes but I recommend vlc
[22:24] <jjgalvez> qwe: what problem are you having?
[22:24] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know how to roll back x to an older version??
[22:24] <f|uke> cheers Bill_, Flare183. I've used both of those. I've had small issues with both
[22:24] <Slart> Anza: press F8 =)
[22:25] <Koordin> please could someone help me with this ?
[22:25] <Koordin> http://pastebin.com/d2d0d4a8c
[22:25] <f|uke> Guess I'll go back to VLC
[22:25] <Codemaster> anyone have any idea about my keyboard/mouse issues? it's rendered my entire installation unusable, of cours
[22:25] <Anza> Slart: LOL.... thanks
[22:25] <Tulimaq> Gubr,  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list  look for "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner" and uncomment it
[22:25] <derek_> does any1 know how to help me get my ipod working? its a 160g ipod classic (idk what gen but its almost a year old) and im running ubuntu 8.04; the ipod will not even charge
[22:25] <Slart> Anza: the menu option is in view, layout, message pane
[22:25] <joelpet> p2p: mencal or cycle..?
[22:25] <mindframe> so my update to ibex failed and now update-manager -d wont show it as an option.
[22:26] <Slart> Anza: it isn't called preview window apparently.. my bad
[22:26] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing ...8.10rc
[22:26] <Codemaster> joelpet: he's being sarcastic..
[22:26] <ubuntu> 有中国人吗
[22:26] <mindframe> the update dailed during the download... how can i restart the update
[22:26] <Flare183> Koordin: ok What you need to do is fix your broken packages
[22:26] <Flare183> !jp | ubuntu
[22:26] <caturdayz> Codemaster: nub
[22:26] <joelpet> Codemaster: oops, sry, just jumped in -- didn't get the context =)
[22:26] <noodlesgc> derek_ try gtkpod
[22:26] <p2p> thanks joelpet mencal :)
[22:26] <Koordin> Flare183: how can i do that ?
[22:26] <derek_> k ty ill try it
[22:27] <cybervegan> hi anyone got vpn working in network manager on intrepid?
[22:27] <tarvid> dvd drive missing after intrepid upgrade
[22:27] <mindframe> so my update to ibex failed during the download and now update-manager -d wont show it as an option.  how can i upgrade my system?
[22:27] <Flare183> Koordin: Its an option for apt-get
[22:27] <Flare183> Koordin: hold on let me find the exact syntax
[22:27] <icqnumber> qwe1, try to boot with acpi=force, maybe this will help
[22:27] <Koordin> -f ?
[22:28] <Flare183> Koordin: Yeap that is exactly it
[22:28] <Koordin> but
[22:28] <Koordin> with which command ?
[22:28] <Koordin> install ?
[22:28] <Flare183> Koordin: no just do it by itself
[22:28] <bundzc1> i just installed the new ubuntu on mz laptop, i tried to enable the ati driver, bt it fails
[22:28] <Koordin> apt-get -f doesn't work
[22:29] <Gubr> Tulimaq: found this sources.list... got it opened... looking through...
[22:29] <joelpet> any suggestions how to set up an MX Revolution in 8.10 now when btnx is obsolete?
[22:29] <bundzc1> also, update manager keeps crashing
[22:29] <TUX> hello
[22:29] <Flare183> Koordin: Does it give you an error message?
[22:29] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know how to roll back x to an older version??
[22:29] <TUX> ﻿which options should i take for nfs (server/client) for a fast connection
[22:29] <sken> what's happening with the synaptic manager
[22:30] <Koordin> apt-get -f shows me the option of apt-get
[22:30] <sken> why  is so slow
[22:30] <ryancr> f|uke: do you know if xrandr works with Xinerama
[22:30] <Codemaster> so no one knows how to fix my keyboard/mouse issue?
[22:30] <xenos90> i cant get dodge to work in fusion, everything else works and i configured it the same way but it wont work in 8.10
[22:30] <Slack> Codemaster: Did you contact the manufactur?
[22:30] <Codemaster> Slack: it works in vista
[22:31] <Codemaster> and heck, if it works in vista... :P
[22:31] <trimeta> How can I change Gnome's icons? I've switched my theme from Human to Clearlooks, but the icons (back, forward, refresh, etc.) are still brown.
[22:31] <Gubr> Tulimaq: I found this "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner" and there is also "deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner" - should I uncomment both of them? Or first one only?
[22:31] <Codemaster> Slack: and I was using it in Hardy completely fine until today
[22:31] <Finn_M> ﻿﻿I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on an Inspiron 1525 and trying to get my bluetooth mouse to work. It's listed in the device listing, but when I try to connect the mouse it tells me something about OBEX, and 'Error: no host' or 'Error: host down'. I am dualbooting with Vista and the mouse works fine there, so it's not a hardware problem. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:31] <sken> my connection is good but the download rate is unknown
[22:31] <Tulimaq> Gubr, just one deb-src is for source code
[22:32] <kebomix> any body here had problem after upgrading to ubuntu 8.10 like me ?
[22:32] <Koordin> so .. how can i fix broken packages with apt-get -f ?
[22:32] <mindframe> what problem kebomix ?
[22:32] <noodlesgc> sken the servers are overloaded because of the release
[22:32] <Codemaster> Korfox: apt-get -f install will attempt to fix them
[22:32] <favro> Codemaster: are there entries for the keyboard and mouse in xorg.conf?
[22:32] <Korfox> ??
[22:32] <m2nmx> not only I didn't have problems, but I found some old bugs fixed
[22:32] <Korfox> Koordin: du warst glaub gemeint
[22:32] <Codemaster> favro: last time i checked, yes. However, I can't use my keyboard/mouse at all - not even to get into TTY1
[22:32] <jjgalvez> kebomix: that depends what problems are you having?
[22:32] <jimminy_cricket> does anyone know how to roll back x to an older version??
[22:32] <Lr5> Looks like my distribution upgrade is running fine now after some hours
[22:32] <sken> ok i will tre tomorrow later thx
[22:33] <carpeliam> how do i determine if a package has been installed or not from the command line using apt?
[22:33] <favro> Codemaster: is the recovery option from grub usable at all?
[22:33] <Codemaster> favro: nope
[22:33] <jrib> !apt > carpeliam
[22:33] <jrib> carpeliam: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[22:33] <kebomix> mindframe: yesterday after upgrading i rebooted my ubuntu and from grub choosing ubuntu or windows , when i press on ubuntu it dont load ubuntu  and give me shell !!!
[22:33] <noodlesgc> sken you could pick a different mirror in Software Sources
[22:33] <le000> i got a question about xmms2: how do i reset the configuration?
[22:33] <m2nmx> anyone haveng problems with the keyboard layout switching?
[22:33] <Koordin> Korfox:  ?
[22:33] <danhs1> does it make sense that ubuntu itnrepid would recognize my motherboard's raid controller and automatically setup dmraid configuration?
[22:33] <danhs1> cause that's what it looks like
[22:33] <sken> oh  ok
[22:33] <jrib> le000: move or delete ~/.xmms2 (not sure on the path)
[22:34] <le000> ok
[22:34] <sken> which ?
[22:34] <Korfox> Koordin: Sorry - there was a highlight on me - i think it should be on you ;)
[22:34] <Gubr> Tulimaq: Ok, I uncommented it but I can not save the file! "Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available". O_o ?
[22:34] <sken> the one   that is most near me
[22:34] <jimminy_cricket> has anyone had any problems with x/gdm after the upgrade??
[22:35] <Koordin> Codemaster: apt-get install -f says that there is nothing to be done ... still i have broken packages as shown there http://pastebin.com/d2d0d4a8c
[22:35] <Tulimaq> Gubr,  did u use sudo ? for normal user this file is read-only
[22:35] <Lr5> jimminy_cricket: I haven't got past the upgrade yet, but what kind of a problem you have?
[22:35] <Gubr> Tulimaq: sorry, how to use this sudo?
[22:35] <derek_> nope gtkpod didnt fix anything
[22:35] <Tulimaq> Gubr,  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:36] <favro> coemthe live cd you tried - is it ibex? - can you try an older live cd?
[22:36] <Codemaster> Koordin: try purging those two packages and reinstalling them
[22:36] <jimminy_cricket> Lr5: once i get past the login screen it freezes, gdm never loads
[22:36] <favro> Codemaster: the live cd you tried - is it ibex? - can you try an older live cd?
[22:36] <bill_> i got a problem with video playback.... the video always shows over any windows (not the always on top option ) and that makes any video in any player flashing ...8.10rc
[22:36] <Gubr> Tulimaq: ok, work in progress...
[22:36] <Kumo> I'm showing no wireless interfaces.  Any ideas?
[22:36] <kane77> is there any chess tutoring software available for ubuntu? (the chess that comes with ubuntu is just too hard for me)
[22:36] <Codemaster> favro: my keyboard works in the LiveCD's menu (where you choose to boot into the CD, install, etc.) but after it boots into the actual live CD or installer, it doesn't work
[22:36] <Codemaster> favro: I installed Ibex last night off of this very CD and it was working fine at first
[22:36] <kane77> kumelk, do you have the right drivers installed?
[22:36] <Kumo> Codemaster: you'll have to edit the xorg.conf file
[22:36] <Koordin> a remove of the package leads to this message ... "After this operation, 220MB disk space will be freed."
[22:37] <Lr5> jimminy_cricket: doesn't sound like anything I have experienced, but checking the graphics drivers might help
[22:37] <Koordin> with all kde4 packages
[22:37] <Koordin> i don't think i want to do this
[22:37] <sken> where do i change mirror?
[22:37] <Gubr> Tulimaq: ok, edited... How to save? )))
[22:37] <kane77> kumelk, sorry that was to Kumo
[22:37] <Codemaster> Kumo: without a keyboard and mouse? lovely :x
[22:37] <mker> I'm trying to create a torrent in Vuze but the little window that comes up after I've chosen the folder is too far down! I can't see what's on it and I can't move it either. Any ideas?
[22:37] <dice> howdy
[22:37] <jimminy_cricket> Lr5: it's old onboard stuff, i have heard people are having problems but the regular fixes aren't working
[22:37] <Koordin> mker: change resolution ?
[22:37] <Kumo> It says that the driver I have isn't compatible or somesuch.
[22:37] <favro> Codemaster: so I was thinking try another live cd to get access to the file system and check xorg.conf
[22:37] <Tulimaq> Gubr, yes and run sudo apt-get update
[22:37] <Finn_M> ﻿I can't get my bluetooth mouse to connect properly. It's listed in the devices, but when I try to connect it says 'error: no host' or 'error: host down'. I know the mouse works, am running 8.04.
[22:37] <kane77> mker, not even with alt+dragging?
[22:37] <Kumo> Codemaster: hit ctrl-alt-F2 at the login
[22:38] <dice> anybody know what nvidia Xord driver package I need for a Geforce2 Go?
[22:38] <SlimeyPete> mker: can't move it? tried hold alt, then clicking and dragging?
[22:38] <Codemaster> favro: my keyboard doesn't work after i reach that menu in the recover mode
[22:38] <Tulimaq> Gubr, ah sorry  :wq will save and quit
[22:38] <Codemaster> Kumo: tried that previously, still no luck
[22:38] <le000> jrib: i cannot find the file
[22:38] <Codemaster> what confounds me is that they don't work during the installer, even
[22:38] <Kumo> Can you get to the recovery terminal by hitting escape during boot?
[22:38] <Koordin> so ... you don't have any other idea ?
[22:39] <jrib> le000: ah, it may be ~/.config/xmms2
[22:39] <Lr5> jimminy_cricket: check if /var/log/gdm has anything useful
[22:39] <jimminy_cricket> Kumo: yes, when grub is loading hit esc
[22:39] <jimminy_cricket> Lr5: it doesnt :(
[22:39] <Kumo> I get my kb and mouse working only to have no wireless....
[22:39] <mker> kane77: SlimeyPete: alt does nothing. It just sits there halfway off my screen. But it isn't frozen or anything. I can press cancel or hide, just not whatever is below
[22:39] <Blinny> Is there an easy way to regenerate .gtk-bookmarks for a ton of users?
[22:39] <Codemaster> Kumo: during normal boot I hit ESC? Haven't tried that but
[22:39] <Kumo> You should be able to edit the .conf file from nano
[22:39] <derek_> any1 with ipod help info? wine isnt being recognized by my comp and wont even charge
[22:40] <le000> jrib: thanks, i found it
[22:40] <Lr5> Blinny: something like mkdir */.gtk-bookmarks might work, but test it with test folders first
[22:40] <Kumo> Codemaster, give me a sec, I'll find the site with the lines you'll need to add.
[22:40] <qwe> srii welcome :)
[22:40] <Kumo> PM them to you?
[22:41] <m2nmx> 8.10 is good O:-)
[22:41] <Blinny> Lr5: .gtk-bookmarks is a file not a directory
[22:41] <sken> noodlesgc: where do ichange mirror
[22:41] <npnux> hi
[22:41] <Gubr> Tulimaq: sudo apt-get update -> bla-bla-bla W: some indecs files were not loaded, they were ignored or old versions of them were used. W: you can run apt-get update to fix these misstakes.
[22:41] <Blinny> Bah. No worries.
[22:42] <npnux> pls help me for dvr card
[22:42] <pr0fane> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[22:42] <pr0fane> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems. this appears when i use a command sudo apt-get update
[22:42] <pr0fane> what to do
[22:42] <Kumo> And on my wireless difficulties, wicd detects no wireless networks...
[22:42] <mker> changing screen resolution made my screen black for a couple of seconds and then I came to the log in screen
[22:42] <Lr5> pr0fane: nothing to worry about, it works anyway
[22:42] <qwe> has any one installed ubuntu on HP laptops? I get a wierd error which says kernel panic when i try to install even
[22:42] <mker> oh, and the vuze torrent creation window is still too far down
[22:42] <pr0fane> Lr5, thanks
[22:42] <Tulimaq> Gubr, check driver manager again for changes
[22:43] <Lr5> pr0fane: it just tells you that it cannot verify the source, but it works anyway
[22:43] <zooropa1993> moin
[22:43] <Codemaster> Kumo:
[22:43] <derek_> my ipod isnt being recognized by my computer im runnin ubuntu 8.04 and its an ipod classic 160g is any1 able to help me or direct me towards helpful info?
[22:43] <aitor_> buenas noches :)
[22:43] <Codemaster> i found the lines previously, but the fact is I can't simply get to edit the file
[22:43] <zooropa1993> ich hab mal ne frage
[22:43] <pr0fane> Lr5, what does it mean that it cannot vertify the source? is it a bad thing?
[22:43] <D101> qwe, yes i did yesterday, everuthing works out of the box (HP Compaq nc 6320)
[22:43] <Codemaster> i have to edit the file to get my keyboard/mouse working, but i need my keyboard working to edit the file ;)
[22:44] <Gubr> Tulimaq: nothing changed! No proprietary drivers are in use on this system!
[22:44] <qwe> D101 I got this error - "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[22:44] <Lr5> pr0fane: I don't do anything to that myself, but there should be a way to add the key in the winehq site
[22:44] <qwe> wat does it mean?
[22:44] <Gubr> Tulimaq: maybe the problem is that it written...
[22:45] <qwe> D101 what might is the error even?
[22:45] <droopsta915> can someone help me choose a download?i want to download an ubuntu cd. i dont know what to get the 32bit, or the 64bit?
[22:45] <jan__> does anybody know if tvants  runs through wine? I think it does, but how well? is it complicated?
[22:45] <jj_galvez> can anyone help me get ia32-libs installed? see http://paste.ubuntu.com/65421/
[22:45] <lifestream> QUESTION :D   Is it possible to hit Keyring with a club, have an elephant stomp it, have some divine power send keyring to some other dimension, so that I don't have to see keyring again ever in my life? xD
[22:45] <zooropa1993> wie bekomme ich die compiz effekte mit meiner intel onboard graka 915 ans laufen?
[22:46] <riegersn> something wrong with the updates? its been trying to download but not connecting
[22:46] <Tulimaq> Gubr, ok but if u rightclick on network applet, do u see any access points in the list ?
[22:46] <compengi> !de | zooropa1993
[22:46] <qwe> asasas
[22:46] <vgn-fz31z> can anyone help me to write a batch file to switch screen from laptop lcd to external screen with nvidia drivers?
[22:46] <Gubr> Tulimaq: no, it doesn't see any wireless networks.
[22:47] <tarvid> dvd drive missing after intrepid upgrade
[22:47] <mindframe> so my update to ibex failed during the download and now update-manager -d wont show it as an option.  how can i upgrade my system?
[22:47] <stebe> If anyone can point me in the right direction.  I just finished upgrading to 8.10 from 8.04, and now I have no sound with 2.6.27-7 kernel, although if I boot with the 2.6.24-21 kernel sound is okay again
[22:47] <PovAddict> how do I enable antialiasing in OpenGL? (nvidia driver)
[22:47] <Gubr> Tulimaq: Can not load: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dist/hardy-securyti/main/... Stop! I'm now typing not from laptop. I'm here in IRC from my PC, and laptop stands nearby - it doesn't have connection to the internet. I plug the cable from laptop back to PC! )))
[22:47] <agliodbs> hmmm ... I can't find tinydns packages in apt-cache
[22:47] <agliodbs> are there none for ubuntu?
[22:48] <PovAddict> Gubr: that's mistyped
[22:48] <PovAddict> Gubr: ah you didn't copy and paste...
[22:48] <SeaPhor> PovAddict, have you installed nvidia-settings?
[22:48] <Tardis> Hi! I want to upgrade to new openoffice 3.0 is the best way to remove the old openoffice or how should i do? I am using ubuntu 8.10
[22:49] <PovAddict> SeaPhor: oh I didn't know there was a separate package for that, thanks
[22:49] <Gubr> PovAddict:  Nope.
[22:49] <Tulimaq> Gubr, ah ok .. yeh u need internet access ofc to run apt-get update
[22:49] <PovAddict> Tardis: just install it
[22:49] <PovAddict> Tardis: if it really conflicts with the current OOo, it will get uninstalled automatically :)
[22:49] <SeaPhor> PovAddict, yeah,,,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings   the run it
[22:49] <droopsta915> can someone help me choose a download?i want to download an ubuntu cd. i dont know what to get the 32bit, or the 64bit?
[22:49] <npnux> ı input lspci
[22:49] <npnux> 04:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMB368 IDE controller
[22:49] <npnux> 05:03.0 Multimedia video controller: Techwell Inc. TW6802 multimedia video card (rev 10)
[22:49] <npnux> 05:03.1 Multimedia controller: Techwell Inc. TW6802 multimedia other device (rev 10)
[22:49] <npnux> 05:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 70)
[22:49] <FloodBot3> npnux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <caturdayz> Codemaster: try editing your xorg.conf
[22:50] <caturdayz> works every time
[22:50] <npnux> pls help me for dvr card
[22:50] <Gubr> Tulimaq: Ok, got it. I will give it a try. But then I will have ti leave for now. Thanks a lot and God bless you for your kind heart! )
[22:50] <Tardis> PovAddict, cool :) then i just download the deb from their homepage?
[22:50] <Tulimaq> Gubr, nps
[22:50] <PovAddict> Tardis: no, use apt-get
[22:50] <compengi> droopsta915, read this http://compengi.homelinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=22
[22:50] <PovAddict> that's what it is for
[22:50] <npnux> my dvr card  05:03.0 Multimedia video controller: Techwell Inc. TW6802 multimedia video card (rev 10)
[22:51] <williamsonday> I have several web applications that ask me to store passwords in plain text, e.g. horde, knowledgetree.  I am trying to figure out if there is a good way to hash the passwords instead.  I have read some of the docs on makepasswd, but have not really come up with the right procedure.  Any advice?  (This is my first time using IRC, so please be patient if my response is slow!)
[22:51] <PovAddict> maybe you're still in the Windows mindset of "go to the developer's website to download"
[22:51] <caturdayz> Codemaster: you probably want to do the "main screen turn on" command
[22:51] <shawn__> how can i upgrade to ibex from terminal, i ran dist-upgrade but says there is nothing to upgrade
[22:51] <lequtix> openoffice 3 is in the repositories???
[22:52] <Codemaster> caturdayz: how are you gentlemen
[22:52] <mindframe> shawn__, you gotta change your sources first
[22:52] <vixey> williamsonday: I don't know about this stuff but I think #ubuntu is the wrong place.. maybe ask ##javascript or something like that
[22:52] <Lr5> ... my system is probably very messed up after this distribution upgrade, so many things have gone wrong
[22:52] <smil3y> shawn__>  what are you using now?
[22:52] <PovAddict> ah no it's not
[22:53] <PovAddict> Tardis: see if OOo website has an APT repository you could add to sources.list
[22:53] <shawn__> smil3y, hardy but a custom version based of the ubuntu cli install
[22:53] <jj_galvez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65421/  Anyone else having trouble installing the ai32-libs package?
[22:53] <simpman> I'm having an issue installing ubuntu 8.10 from CD. It freezes while booting every time.
[22:53] <williamsonday> Thanks, Vixey.  I thought there might be good linux command simply to hash the password so that I could paste it into the app in hashed form.  The trick, of course, is to be sure it can be read.
[22:53] <SeaPhor> shawn__, i think is   sudo apt-get upgrade sources.lst (or 'update')
[22:53] <Tardis> PovAddict, ok, i will give it a try ^^
[22:53] <Bert_2> Hi, I would like to develop a simple 2D game for linux (ubuntu), I can do some programming so that's no problem, I can learn, but I have no idea how to get started and what to look for. Can anyone help me ?
[22:53] <smil3y> shawn__>  well the command line upgrade goes like sudo update-manager -d
[22:54] <PovAddict> simpman: did you check md5sum before burning?
[22:54] <vixey> williamsonday: what about md5sum  ?
[22:54] <simpman> Yeah, I did. It stops loading after about 3 boxes in the loading screen
[22:54] <smil3y> shawn__>  then look for the button on top that says a new version is available
[22:54]  * Flare183 is back
[22:54] <shawn__> smil3y, guess i have to install the update-manager then lol
[22:54] <williamsonday> Vixey, I'll take a look at the man page.  Any pointers before I do?
[22:55] <smil3y> shawn__>  oh i dont know, thats a standard package should already be there if youve ran updates before
[22:55] <mindframe> smil3y, any idea how to get that button to show up if it wont?
[22:55] <shawn__> smil3y, no like i said this is a custom install built off the ubuntu command line system
[22:55] <snova> anyone know why kpackage would only show installed packages, and then only a subset of those?
[22:56] <SeaPhor> shawn__,   sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade sources.list
[22:56] <smil3y> mindframe->  if theres a version greater than yours then it will show up with update manager -d
[22:56] <lequtix> shawn__ try this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:56] <lequtix> it gives a cli upgrade
[22:56] <simpman> It does the same thing if I load it from CD or USB stick.
[22:56] <lequtix> howto
[22:56] <lequtix> at the bottom
[22:56] <FloodBot3> lequtix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <mindframe-> smil3y, my upgrade failed during the download stage and now i cant get the button back.
[22:56] <SilverStreak> I'm trying to use my 360 controller, but xorg treats it like a mouse. Is there a way around this?
[22:56] <shawn__> lequtix, i got it, just installed the update manager, didn't need any other dependencies so not a huge deal
[22:56] <sken> what's the network speed T3 or T1
[22:56] <sken> ?
[22:57] <Stalker72> I'm unable to install Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne in Wine.
[22:57] <CardiacKid> I'm trying to move my /home folder to a secondary drive. how can I do this?
[22:57] <jrib> !home | CardiacKid
[22:57] <mindframe-> SeaPhor, will apt-get upgrade just change the sources to intrepid sources?
[22:58] <compengi> CardiacKid, you can do this from terminal with "cp -R /home/* /path/to/another/directory"
[22:58] <mindframe-> err apt-get upgrade sources.list
[22:58] <smil3y> mindframe->  well maybe everything didnt install?  did you try it again? it will start where it left off
[22:58] <lequtix> ok shawn__
[22:58] <smil3y> mindframe->  apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:58] <mindframe-> smil3y, yes i tried multiple times... is there a way i can manually run the 'update application' that it downloaded at the start?
[22:58] <mindframe-> i was going to do that
[22:58] <sken> does anybody know a good software like itunes for ubuntu
[22:58] <mindframe-> i thought ubuntu didnt like that though
[22:59] <sken> ?
[22:59] <karab44_> Hi ! I can not enable kqemu in qemu virtual machine
[22:59] <SeaPhor> mindframe-, not sure, should have latest of all, and be there, but good question,,, being a change-over season would be good to KNOW.
[22:59] <smil3y> mindframe->  open /etc/apt/sources.list and see if your sources are for intrepid
[22:59] <Stalker72> A good iTunes alternative is Rhythmbox Music Player.
[22:59] <mindframe-> smil3y, they are for hardy
[22:59] <mindframe-> smil3y, kernel is still 2.6.24
[22:59] <SilverStreak> Can anyone help me with a xorg issue I've been having? I've asked this question multiple times over the past few hours and nobody seems to have been responding: my xbox 360 controller is incorrectly being autoconfigured as a mouse. Is there a way around this?
[22:59] <Miesco> Stalker72: Can you use it for videos
[22:59] <emilien> sken: yes try songbird very similar to irtunes
[23:00] <Stalker72> I don't think so, but you could try VLC media player.
[23:00] <mindframe-> smil3y, if i just replace all instances of hardy w/ intrepid will apt-get dist-upgrade do well?
[23:00] <smil3y> mindframe->  got me then, you should still get the button then if you run update-manager -d
[23:00] <lequtix> does anyone know if 8.10 has voice recognition software?
[23:00] <SeaPhor> mindframe-, and should be... sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade sources.list  so its upgraded from-to..
[23:00] <lequtix> so i can dictate?
[23:00] <Miesco> Why does my computer keep freezing
[23:00] <smil3y> mindframe->  someone else chime in here, i dont want to bork your sources up
[23:01] <MinusSeven> I'm surprised there isn't an iTunes for Ubuntu
[23:01] <MinusSeven> Apple is built on Linux
[23:01] <Stalker72> iTunes is not open source though.
[23:01] <MinusSeven> no
[23:01] <MinusSeven> I don't think it should be opensource
[23:01] <MinusSeven> but should be available for linux
[23:01] <Stalker72> A lot of iTunes' alternatives are even better than iTunes itself
[23:01] <CardiacKid> compengi, could you explain?
[23:01] <MinusSeven> That doesn't surprise me
[23:02] <sken> is any good software similar to itunes?
[23:02] <SilverStreak> @minusseven: actually OSX is bsd.
[23:02] <Stalker72> Rhytmbox Music Player
[23:02] <bruenig> hm
[23:02] <Stalker72> for example
[23:02] <mystery> hi
[23:02] <Kwiwaa> hmm I don't have write access to my external drive, can someone help me ?
[23:02] <Stalker72> there's also Banshee
[23:02] <bruenig> rhythmbox is a joke
[23:02] <bruenig> use mpd
[23:02] <compengi> CardiacKid, explain what?
[23:02] <mystery> Does anyone know how to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10
[23:03] <Lr5> with all this ctrl-c:ing, my 8.10 will probably be very broken. :s
[23:03] <unr3a1> hey all
[23:03] <Stalker72> bruenig: What's bad about Rhythmbox?
[23:03] <emilien> rhythmbox is very good imho
[23:03] <Tetracomm> Songbird.
[23:03] <unr3a1> I am having a problem with 8.10
[23:03] <Rafeiro> i cant get to save my network settings.. since i used them manual.. is this  a know bug?
[23:03] <Stalker72> I love Rhytmbox
[23:03] <unr3a1> I did my upgrade through the update manager, and now, x-server wont load
[23:03] <mindframe-> smil3y, do you know where update-manager -d stores cache information?
[23:03] <hhlp> myst-dragon, -> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[23:03] <unr3a1> it says that I dont have any screens to connect to
[23:03] <Tetracomm> http://getsongbird.com/
[23:04] <lequtix> unr3al use X -configure from terminal
[23:04] <lequtix> then X --config /config file generated
[23:04] <hhlp> mystery, -> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[23:04] <unr3a1> so just X -configure
[23:04] <sken> emilien  where can i find songbird?
[23:04] <lequtix> that generates a config file for u
[23:04] <lequtix> i can't remmeber if u put two -- or one - in front of configure
[23:05] <unr3a1> ok, then I have to manually edit the config file?
[23:05] <andresj> hey u guys have u tried upgrading from hardy to intrepid? did it work well? im wondering if i should make a fresh install again.
[23:05] <unr3a1> or what do I do with it?
[23:05] <Stalker72> What's better? Amarok, Rhytmbox, Banshee, Songbird, MPD?
[23:05] <lequtix> it should work after the autoconfig
[23:05] <andresj> Stalker72: wats better, Gouda, Cheddar, Mozarella?
[23:05] <andresj> :P
[23:05] <lequtix> at least get u into the guy
[23:05] <lequtix> gui
[23:05] <CardiacKid> do I just put "cp -R /home/* /path/to/another/directory" in a terminal? then what?
[23:05] <unr3a1> is that the autoconfig?
[23:05] <unr3a1> or whats the command for the autoconfig?
[23:05] <lequtix> X --configure
[23:05] <emilien> sken:  sudo apt-get install songbird else http://getsongbird.com/download/
[23:05] <unr3a1> alright, I will try that
[23:05] <unr3a1> thanks
[23:05] <mrono> How do I set up hotkeys for the desktop switcher
[23:05] <unr3a1> if it doesn't work, I will come back
[23:05] <Stalker72> Is Songbird better than Rhytmbox?
[23:06] <unr3a1> :)
[23:06] <CardiacKid> the path I assume is where I want the home directory to live.
[23:06] <emilien> no better different
[23:06] <mrono> and change the desktop switcher so that it switches when the mouse hits the edge of the screen
[23:06] <redvamp128> ﻿question-- anyone else running Ubuntu 8.04 with the update to the kernel... and Flash Player 10.0.12.36... for me I lost control of the settings-- anyone else having this issue in FireFox 3.0.3 (I already downgraded it to the residual using apt and is now working)
[23:06] <SeaPhor> CardiacKid, are you trying to get a separate /home?
[23:06] <_Carrie_> I sure hope I'm not wasting 5+ hours of my life with this ibex update! I've had bad experiences with updates to ubuntu in the past. *fingers are crossed* Why is it sooooooooo slow?
[23:06] <mystery> For some reason my software sources window will not appear after clicked. withthout it I cant upgrade to 8.10. Can someone help?
[23:07] <CardiacKid> really, just move home. I want home on a storage drive so when I reinstall
[23:07] <erisco> I have been literally working 10 hours nonstop trying to get ubuntu 8.10 installed without using a CD. If anyone could please assist in any way, by referring me to a working method, it would be ridiculously appreciated
[23:07] <sken> emilen as a root
[23:07] <redvamp128> Slow--it will be slow for the first few days-- Everyone wants it..
[23:07] <mrono> mystery, have you tried doing it with the commmand line
[23:07] <lequtix> mystery the repositories are under a huge load right now...  perhaps wait a bit and try again
[23:07] <CardiacKid> ... all my settings and programs will remain.
[23:07] <Guinnesss> I can't believe how much improved Ibex is from Hardy...I love it! My Compiz Fusion is working great, everything is faster! I'ts awesome...
[23:07] <SilverStreak> I've asked this question multiple times over the past few hours and nobody seems to have been responding: my xbox 360 controller is incorrectly being autoconfigured as a mouse. Is there a way to force a device to not be autoconfigured?
[23:07] <redvamp128> Kind of like trying to get the latest game---sold out until everyone has it.
[23:07] <simpman> erisco: I've got it successfully started with a USB Dongle
[23:07] <erisco> Guinnesss, rub it in my face...
[23:07] <SeaPhor> CardiacKid, what source are you using for this?
[23:07] <dlyh> yeah, they're slow as hell.. if you are trying to upgrade, just dl the cd
[23:08] <lequtix> the only thing that doesnt' work for me are the special buttons for volume control and wireless on/off
[23:08] <erisco> simpman, I have tried various strategies with USB and none worked for me. what did you try?
[23:08] <redvamp128> ﻿question-- anyone else running Ubuntu 8.04 with the update to the kernel... and Flash Player 10.0.12.36... for me I lost control of the settings-- anyone else having this issue in FireFox 3.0.3 (I already downgraded it to the residual using apt and is now working)
[23:08] <emilien> sken:  sudo apt-get install songbird ( enter password ) else jus t download from http://getsongbird.com/download/
[23:08] <mystery> Thanx. I havent tried the command. For some reason i cant even bring up the dialouge box for software sources
[23:08] <Lr5> what the... My firefox profiles, they are all gone :s
[23:08] <Guinnesss> erisco: sorry..did'nt mean to, but why don't you get a cd?
[23:08] <cactaur> Does anyone know what the disadvantages are to upgrading via Alternate CD?
[23:08] <sken> the command doesn't work
[23:08] <erisco> Guinnesss, cannot burn one
[23:08] <Lr5> for some reason distribution upgrade seems to be deleting files from my computer
[23:08] <Lr5> luckily I backed them up...
[23:09] <emilien> sken:  then download from site
[23:09] <Stalker72> How frequent are Wine updates released?
[23:09] <edj> Well, here I am on intrepid and kde4, and I managed to somehow lose the panel.  "Add panel" gives me a empty panel at the top of the screen.  How to get a populated panel back?
[23:09] <Guinnesss> cactaur: I put one it earlier, but it doesnt have live-cd and no graphical install.
[23:09] <FiReSTaRT> cactaur: it's a lot faster so you get to spend less time waiting for the dl to finish
[23:09] <sken> is it easy to install tar.gz file
[23:09] <SeaPhor> CardiacKid, if you are getting confused, try this walk-thru:  http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=65
[23:09] <simpman> erisco http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/06/usb-ubuntu-810-install-from-windows-non-persistent/
[23:09] <FiReSTaRT> cactaur: that's the only disadvantage that i can think of
[23:09] <Guinnesss> I used the standard cd for installation instead.
[23:09]  * FiReSTaRT brb
[23:09] <jj_galvez> just want to make sure I'm loggin correctly and people can wee what I type could someone please reply to this
[23:10] <andre_d> How do I boot ubuntu to the console from grub, but not in single user mode? I.e; I want a normal boot except for starting X.
[23:10] <emilien> sken:  yes
[23:10] <cactaur> Guinnesss: I was talking about upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid.
[23:10] <CardiacKid> a developer where I work said if I move home, to a secure drive, if and when I get a new boot drive and hardware, all my settings and programs will live in the new home on the new drive.
[23:10] <jrib> andre_d: forever or just one time?  and why?
[23:10] <erisco> simpman, I don't want to run it from a flash drive... I want to install it from a flash drive
[23:10] <andre_d> jrib: Just one time
[23:10] <jrib> andre_d: why?
[23:10] <compengi> CardiacKid, syntax: "cp -R /home/* /path/to/other/directory" this means that you are copying every thing in your home and since home is a directory and contains directories we should use -R flag for that. so the first part of our command is finished. the second part is where you want to copy your files to, you should speficy a path to it
[23:11] <simpman> Just basically copies the Ubuntu 8.10 cd, can install from boot
[23:11] <Guinnesss> cactaur: I tried that too, but it wanted do download an additional 340Mb, so I decided to do a fresh install instead.
[23:11] <LordDicranius> is there an easy way to move cron jobs from one system to another?
[23:11] <erisco> I have been literally working 10 hours nonstop trying to get ubuntu 8.10 installed without using a CD. If anyone could please assist in any way, by referring me to a working method, it would be ridiculously appreciated
[23:11] <MinusSeven> I'm writing a software program to teach people English.
[23:11] <MinusSeven> For Linux
[23:11] <saruji> hey does anyone know where I can find the support irc for thunderbird?
[23:11] <andre_d> jrib: I want to do some maintainance-like work, but still have networking.
[23:11] <MinusSeven> I thinked about it last night, and think it should be teached in a graphical format.
[23:11] <mindframe> saruji, irc.mozilla.org
[23:11] <sken> emilien i downloaded it
[23:11] <mindframe> #thunderbird
[23:11] <Guinnesss> cactaur: the extra download was for things I installed to try when I was using hardy, but I did'nt want them anymore.
[23:11] <saruji> thank you mindframe but how do i join it?
[23:11] <sken> how can i install it?
[23:11] <CardiacKid> so will that perminantly move the home target?
[23:11] <mindframe> saruji, what irc client u using?
[23:12] <jrib> andre_d: that doesn't really make sense.  Are you installing a driver or something?
[23:12] <saruji> gnome
[23:12] <Guinnesss> erisco: What is the problem?
[23:12] <saruji> xchat
[23:12] <Volkodav> is there a ff 3.1 beta for x86_64 ?
[23:12] <mindframe> saruji, /newserver irc.mozilla.org
[23:12] <mindframe> saruji, then /j #thunderbird
[23:12] <saruji> thank you so much :)
[23:12] <erisco> Guinnesss, I can find no working method to install ubuntu without using a cd
[23:12] <Stalker72> I'm wondering about the Fx 3.1 Beta as well...
[23:13] <andre_d> jrib: No. But to my question, can you do it from grub?
[23:13] <sken> enikien:?
[23:13] <compengi> CardiacKid, it would copy files as you usually copy files from one place to another
[23:13] <jrib> andre_d: no
[23:13] <zerothis> anti-christ! :)
[23:13] <sken> emilien:?
[23:13] <erisco> Guinnesss, and there are many problems depending on which method I try
[23:13] <zerothis> my cursor is trapped on my second monitor. On all previous boots it resisted moving back to my first monitor, now it won't go back at all
[23:13] <erisco> Guinnesss, it is a complete mess
[23:13] <vitamin-carrot_> whats a good personal bandwidth monitor
[23:13] <compengi> CardiacKid, the only difference is that you are doing it through a command line system
[23:13] <emilien> sken: download the songbird and extract it
[23:13] <evan_> yeah, interepid rocks while its finely configured!!
[23:14] <Stalker72> If I add a 2nd hard drive to my comp, do I have to format the PC?
[23:14] <Stalker72> I'm planning to run RAID 0.
[23:14] <bugfixes> hello all
[23:14] <jrib> andre_d: I don't see the use case here
[23:14] <emilien> sken: then there should be a Songbird.sh file double click on it and should run installer
[23:14] <MothOnLovesFlame> is there a way to download flash videos in ubuntu?
[23:14] <CardiacKid> I understand that part. but what changes the home target?
[23:14] <Guinnesss> erisco: I must say, apart from installing it on a usb drive I dont know how else?   (if you know someone with ibex installed already there's an app that allows you to make a bootable usb drive by default).   Anyway if you could get to someone, you could probably just get a cd?
[23:15] <vitamin-carrot_> or you could just goto getdeb.net and download the songbird.deb file
[23:15] <mrono> Where are the settings for the desktop switcher
[23:15] <andre_d> jrib: I'm sure the use case is not very common, but I have the need.
[23:15] <jrib> andre_d: I'm curious as to what the need is if you don't mind
[23:15] <Stalker72> If I add a 2nd hard drive to my computer, do I have to reinstall Ubuntu? I'm going to run a RAID 0 config.
[23:15] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: you have to install compiz settings manager
[23:15] <ldiamond> I installed Ubuntu from the alternate CD, now I dont have any GUI. What package am I missing?
[23:16] <ldiamond> Is it Ubuntu-Desktop?
[23:16] <Guinnesss> mronoL right-click on the desktop switcher, choose prferences
[23:16] <mindframe> intrepid is quite slow :)
[23:16] <simpman> Installing ubuntu desktop 8.10 having problems it's freezing during the loading splash screen while trying to boot. checksumed the md5, as well as booting it from USB and Live CD and the problem remains. Any suggestions would be appreciated
[23:16] <CardiacKid> I was told to 1 copy /home with hidden files, 2.rename existing home (I got stuck here and couldn't rename) 3. create new empty home on target drive, 3.change fstab to mount secondary drive at empty home.
[23:16] <mrono> that's just how many
[23:16] <ldiamond> mindframe intrepid is slow?
[23:16] <mrono> i'm looking for the key bindings and etc
[23:17] <mindframe> my desktop performs slower now... switching windows is awful.
[23:17] <CardiacKid> mainly cause you can only mount to an empty directory.
[23:17] <Guinnesss> mindframe: My experience is that it's faster....I think my graphics driver is much better.
[23:17] <Stalker72> Is there a better BitTorrent client than Transmission?
[23:17] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: have you already got the compiz setting doohicky?
[23:17] <philippe_> Stalker72, try Deluge
[23:17] <mindframe> Stalker72, rtorrent
[23:17] <bimberi> mrono: System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[23:17] <emilien> sken: here is .deb file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird , download and double click install
[23:17] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: it should tel you when you look at each of the options
[23:17] <mrono> getting it right now, how do i access it when i install it
[23:17] <jj_galvez> can anyone see me? just checking the irc client
[23:17] <ldiamond> hope its not too slow or I'd have to install something else :(
[23:18] <erpo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom is unclear on whether 8.10 just works with the Wacom Bamboo tablets. Can anyone tell me whether or not it does?
[23:18] <SeaPhor> mindframe, really?   i may wait to upgrade then,,, wait, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[23:18] <zerothis> Guinnesss: did you try usb-creator
[23:18] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: once its installed it will be under System > Preferences > Compiz
[23:18] <ldiamond> I installed Ubuntu from the alternate CD, now I dont have any GUI. What package am I missing?
[23:18] <mindframe> SeaPhor, upgrade.
[23:18] <jj_galvez> jj_galvez:
[23:18] <jj_galvez> jj_galvez: test
[23:18] <mrono> i have compiz
[23:18] <Guinnesss> zerothis: I was trying to assist erisco...I havent tried it yet though, but my Ibex is great!!
[23:18] <magicrobotmonkey> is hulu working for anyone in intrepid?
[23:18] <SeaPhor> mindframe, have you looked for bug reports for that?
[23:19] <compengi> ldiamond, check if you have gdm installed, if it is, then it's not started
[23:19] <mindframe> not at all SeaPhor
[23:19] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: ok now open the settings manager and select what you want to use
[23:19] <csilk> Is there an easy way to print screen an open menu from gnome desktop?
[23:19] <Rafeiro> how do i select the sound card to alsamixer ? so it can make it default?
[23:19] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: not all of them play well together and compiz will tell you what cant work with what
[23:19] <Juanelone> can i install first windows 2003 server, then Ubuntu Server and then Ubuntu Desktop without any trouble?
[23:19] <erisco> zerothis, what is usb-creator
[23:19] <compengi> Rafeiro, use volume manager
[23:19] <ldiamond> compengi gdm as in gnome? no its not installed
[23:19] <zerothis> is there an assistance technology or setting to make a newly opened app take focus and grab the cursor?
[23:20] <Rafeiro> compengi, i did, still no sound
[23:20] <ldiamond> compengi I chose not to install Ubuntu-Desktop package (I was in a hurry), is that the one?
[23:20] <Guinnesss> Rafeiro: System->Preferences-Sound
[23:20] <compengi> Rafeiro, no sound could mean couple of things
[23:20] <Rafeiro> i had this same problem in ubuntu 8.4
[23:20] <ldiamond> compengi Because its 1.9GB on the repo, figured it wouldnt fit on a Cd...
[23:20] <jj_galvez> am I logged in correctly, it looks like noone can see me
[23:20] <erisco> Guinnesss, what is this usb-creator
[23:20] <vitamin-carrot_> zerothis: whats the app?
[23:20] <Rafeiro> i ran alsa and alsa store or something.. cant remember
[23:20] <max_> hello
[23:20] <vitamin-carrot_> hello
[23:21] <max_> whats this channel for exactly?
[23:21] <jj_galvez> anyone
[23:21] <Lordveda> Hello all
[23:21] <favro> jj_galvez: hi :)
[23:21] <rio> im trying to get HDAPS work on my thinkpad R61, but loading hdaps fails with hdaps: driver init failed (ret=-6)!
[23:21] <Juanelone> can i install first windows 2003 server, then Ubuntu Server and then Ubuntu Desktop without any trouble?
[23:21] <compengi> ldiamond, ubuntu-desktop i guess would install all packages for gnome, although it could include gdm. if not, then you need to install it seperately
[23:21] <mrono> when i run compiz i get some checking messages then it just site
[23:21] <emilien> max_: ubuntu related help
[23:21] <mrono> sits*
[23:21] <unr3a1> hey
[23:21] <jj_galvez> favro: thanks, I thought noone could see me
[23:21] <unr3a1> it didn't work
[23:21] <vitamin-carrot_> hi
[23:21] <favro> hehe
[23:21] <Guinnesss> erisco: In Ibex there is an app by default under System->Administration->Create A USB StartUp Disk
[23:21] <ldiamond> compengi So that package would be overkill..? I'm only looking at getting basic gui.
[23:21] <zerothis> erisco: usb-creator lets you take an ubuntu iso, such as from an installer CD, and write it to a USB drive (thumb drive). so that one can install ubuntu with using a CD drive.
[23:21] <Lordveda> Has anyone faced the gnome-appearance-properties to make the X server to restart?
[23:22] <Neckor> ouf , enfin ca marche °°
[23:22] <SilverStreak> How do I prevent my 360 controller from being autoconfigured as a mouse?
[23:22] <unr3a1> I did X -configure and I got a black screen
[23:22] <Neckor> Hehe salut le monde :)
[23:22] <ldiamond> English channel.
[23:22] <emilien> !fr
[23:22] <Neckor> Ha :s
[23:22] <Guinnesss> erisco: It makes a usb drive bootable into Ubuntu.
[23:22] <ldiamond> #ubuntu-fr
[23:22] <Neckor> ok thx xD
[23:22] <erisco> zerothis, that is exactly what I need to do but I don't have ibex... if I did have ibex I would not have a problem. what do I do?
[23:22] <Neckor> Shuss
[23:22] <unr3a1> ok, I am having an issue with X-server
[23:22] <unr3a1> its not loading because it says i dont have any configured screens
[23:23] <compengi> ldiamond, you need to decide what window manager you need, you got gnome, kde, xfce etc.. that would be basic gui, but to make it work, you'd need gdm for login screen
[23:23] <Guinnesss> erisco: Is there any reason you can't go write a cd somewhere else?
[23:23] <SeaPhor> mindframe, have you looked at this? http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6069798
[23:23] <mrono> compiz hangs when i try to load it
[23:23] <Guinnesss> Do you have the cd image?
[23:23] <unr3a1> I tried a sudo X -configure, but all it did was bring me to a blank screen...  what else can I do?
[23:23] <adub2> can anyone tell me what happened to EVMS?
[23:23] <sken_> why songbird isn't listed in the menu?
[23:23] <zerothis> vitamin-carrot_: SNY app. my cursor is stuck on my 2nd monitor and I need it on my 1st. (there's an fsck operation pending over there, a reboot means losing my data)
[23:23] <erisco> Guinnesss, yes
[23:23] <adub2> i can't access anything from the live cd, because the evms packages are discontinued in intrepid =/
[23:23] <Juanelone> 1st server 2003, 2nd ubuntu server, 3rd ubuntu desktop? without any troubles?
[23:23] <vitamin-carrot_> zerothis: oh noes
[23:23] <jj_galvez> is anyone having trouble installed the ia32-libs package?
[23:24] <unr3a1> does anyone have any ideas as to what I can do?
[23:24] <Guinnesss> erisco: Put cd image onto usb drive and go find a cd-writer...would be easiest I think.
[23:24] <simpman> Installing ubuntu desktop 8.10 having problems it's freezing during the loading splash screen while trying to boot. checksumed the md5, as well as booting it from USB and Live CD and the problem remains. Any suggestions would be appreciated
[23:24] <erisco> Guinnesss, there is no cd writer
[23:24] <amews_aj> After installing this theme https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme   the visible text in menubar etc. is gone in openoffice. What can I do ?
[23:24] <erisco> Guinnesss, if there was a cd writer I wouldn't have spent 10 hours trying to do it without a cd ;)
[23:25] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: have you installed your gfx drivers?
[23:25] <emilien> sken_:  have yo installed songbird ?
[23:25] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: what video card?
[23:25] <sken_> yup
[23:25] <unr3a1> ???
[23:25] <bimberi> !xorg | unr3a1
[23:25] <Guinnesss> erisco: Why can't you go to someone who has one (that's what I meant)
[23:25] <erisco> Guinnesss, because there IS NO ONE, geez
[23:25] <emilien> sken_:  ok =)
[23:25] <compengi> ldiamond, as a quick help for gnome, you'd need those packages gnome gnome-extra gdm ttf-ms-fonts ttf-dejavu ttf-bitstream-vera
[23:26] <unr3a1> bimberi:  but its not a problem with xorg shutting down
[23:26] <Guinnesss> erisco: Well I don;t know then, sorry? Good luck.
[23:26] <sken_> but i can't find it in the menu
[23:26] <bimberi> unr3a1: the last link
[23:26] <DeadBattery> I am currently upgrading my Ubuntu version to 8.10.  If I stop the upgrade and continue it later, will the downloaded files remain there and start again on my next try?
[23:26] <mrono> vitamin no that was my next thing
[23:26] <unr3a1> bimberi:  it wont start at all because it says I do not have any configured screens
[23:26] <mrono> can you direct me to the ati drivers
[23:26] <unr3a1> bimberi:  I tried to do a X -configure but all it did was bring me to a blank screen
[23:26] <zerothis> erisco: sorry, I missed that detail. uhm. I don't know. I don't suppose you could install usb-creator in your current system? hmm, probable complicated, I heard it requires changes to grub and some other apps
[23:26] <Guinnesss> DeadBattery: They should.
[23:26] <magicrobotmonkey> crap i have no sound
[23:27] <vitamin-carrot_> mrono: im sorry i dont use ati i dont think i know enough to help with that
[23:27] <amews_aj> Help for GTK themes ?
[23:27] <mrono> !ati
[23:27] <DeadBattery> Guinnesss: thanks, I hate leaving my computer on at night.  ;)
[23:27] <Miesco> Yo I got 8.10 and now my computer always freezes and I have to reboot, I dont knwo when its going to freeze, like 5 minutes in
[23:27] <sken_> ? emilie
[23:27] <compengi> magicrobotmonkey, did you check if alsamixer is muted?
[23:27] <Guinnesss> DeadBattery: They do for me, but I think it depends on what you set it to in Aptitude (Keep/Delete package)
[23:27] <Miesco> So I got 5 minutes to come up with something to do to troubleshoot
[23:27] <magicrobotmonkey> compengi: where, in alsamixer? its not
[23:27] <csilk> Is there an easy way to print screen an open menu from gnome desktop?
[23:27] <unr3a1> bimberi:  Right now, I am in a text based IRC, because I cannot get into x-server at all
[23:27] <magicrobotmonkey> compengi: im on an upgrade from hardy where sound was working
[23:28] <compengi> magicrobotmonkey, do you have all bars up?
[23:28] <magicrobotmonkey> compengi: theres only 1
[23:28] <amews_aj> After installing this theme https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme   the visible text in menubar etc. is gone in openoffice. What can I do ?
[23:28] <compengi> magicrobotmonkey, so higher the others too
[23:28] <unr3a1> are there any other auto configurators for x-server?
[23:28] <bimberi> unr3a1: try a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[23:28] <magicrobotmonkey> compengi: no, theres only 1 bar
[23:28] <magicrobotmonkey> but i might be on to something
[23:29] <ryancr> Any ideas why xrandr with not show both monitors on a nvidia 7300 (G72) card ?
[23:29] <neptunepink> So, who's going to be giving out CD's instead of candy?
[23:29] <compengi> magicrobotmonkey, then you have something wrong
[23:29] <ryancr> I am using 8.10
[23:29] <unr3a1> bimberi:  I will try it... brb
[23:29] <Miesco> Where can I go get help with Ubuntu 8.10?
[23:29] <compengi> Miesco, here?
[23:29] <emilien> sken_:  you have to add song bird to the menu manualy look at bottom of page http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-songbird-music-player-in-ubuntu.html
[23:30] <Guinnesss> Miesco: here.
[23:30] <alsuren> can someone help me debug suspend to disk? I have just today gotten suspend to ram working after 3 years of using linux on my box. Thought I might as well go the whole hog.
[23:30] <ianliu_88> I have a local network on my home with Windows PCs, which are able to comunicate between them. But my ubuntu can't see than trough Places > Network....
[23:30] <Bro_ken> I'm trying out 8.10, and I'm trying to get my wireless card to work. I have an HP dv1610us and lspci returns that it is broadcom bcm4318. I've gotten an external card to work on a different laptop using ndisgtk, and I tried that. It says that the drivers are installed, but it's not listing my access point in the network manager. Did I miss a step?
[23:30] <magicrobotmonkey> compengi: i have a bunch of bars in gnome-volume-control
[23:30] <DIFH-iceroot> !usb
[23:30] <magicrobotmonkey> and one was down
[23:30] <compengi> ianliu_88, did you install samba?
[23:31] <ianliu_88> compengi: I thought it is already installed
[23:31] <compengi> ianliu_88, i don't think it's shipped by default with the lastest distro
[23:32] <ianliu_88> compengi: hmm, let me try, thanks
[23:32] <magicrobotmonkey> damn still no headphone jack
[23:32] <amews_aj> Nobody can help with this issue?
[23:32] <csilk> amews_aj, it's a dust theme specific issue
[23:32] <ianliu_88> compengi: dumb me... Installing ;)
[23:32] <Guinnesss> bye
[23:32] <compengi> ianliu_88, :D
[23:32] <amews_aj> csilk: But on screenshots it works fine
[23:32] <Miesco_> See, it JUST FROZE, where can I get help with Ubuntu 8.10?
[23:33] <compengi> Miesco_, try reading the topic
[23:33] <Bro_ken> !wireless
[23:33] <SeaPhor> Miesco_, does it only freeze on 8.10?
[23:33] <csilk> amews_aj, it's not an officially supported theme and not many people use it so you might not get a response here, by all means keep trying though.
[23:34] <amews_aj> csilk: Yea, but it works on screenshots, maybe ooo3 comp. issue ?
[23:34] <ConstantineXVI> Am I better off using GNOME X-Chat, or vanilla X-Chat?
[23:34] <csilk> amews_aj, yeah it will be an OOo3 specific issue more than likely
[23:34] <compengi> !better | ConstantineXVI
[23:35] <blak> Anyone here with an 1000h and intrepid 8.10 using the array.org optimized kernel plz priv msg me
[23:35] <amews_aj> csilk: What is the default ubuntu theme name ?
[23:36] <amews_aj> human ?
[23:36] <emilien> yes
[23:36] <csilk> amews_aj, yes
[23:36] <amews_aj> csilk: Even when I go back to human, it still does not work
[23:36] <knix_> anyone here know how to get a gigabeat to get recognized by ubuntu?
[23:36] <csilk> amews_aj, what exactly is the problem?
[23:36] <blak> Is there a way to change the font size or the user login box size for the ubuntu login screen? I don't see that in the basic options for it?
[23:36] <erisco> I have been literally working 10 hours nonstop trying to get ubuntu 8.10 installed without using a CD. If anyone could please assist in any way, by referring me to a working method, it would be ridiculously appreciated
[23:36] <newii> would ubuntu be good OS for my old pc ?
[23:36] <amews_aj> Well, all text disappears
[23:37] <blak> most likely newii
[23:37] <csilk> amews_aj, change to human then to human clearlooks
[23:37] <amews_aj> No change
[23:38] <go_beep_yourself> im upgrading to ibex. im getting a few questions along the way. i have no idea what this is. what should i do here please? http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdebconfonubunhi9.png
[23:38] <csilk> amews_aj, hmm, yeah I don't usually mess with themes so that's about as far as my knowledge goes
[23:38] <unr3a1> birberi: it didn't work
[23:38] <Bro_ken> Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[23:38] <Bro_ken> I'm trying out 8.10, and I'm trying to get my wireless card to work. I have an HP dv1610us and lspci returns that it is broadcom bcm4318. I've gotten an external card to work on a different laptop using ndisgtk, and I tried that. It says that the drivers are installed, but it's not listing my access point in the network manager. Did I miss a step?
[23:39] <csilk> go_beep_yourself, how did you get that window?
[23:39] <go_beep_yourself> csilk-> debconf from update-manager doing a hardy>ibex upgrade
[23:39] <unr3a1> I got:  Saw signal 11.  Server aborting.  xinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to x-server... xinit: no such process (errno 3): server error
[23:39] <csilk> go_beep_yourself,  they look like firefox supported ssl certificates
[23:39] <amews_aj> csilk: where can I upload image?
[23:39] <blak> go_beep_yourself: just skip that
[23:40] <go_beep_yourself> csilk-> blak how am i supposed to know which ones to check off and which ones to not?
[23:40] <csilk> amews_aj, without an account, I don't know
[23:40] <csilk> go_beep_yourself, i dont understand why you're having to do that
[23:40] <blak> go_beep_yourself: you dont need to worry about it, just do forward
[23:40] <unr3a1> binberi?
[23:40] <blak> go_beep_yourself: if those are necessary for some weird reason you can handle that later
[23:41] <go_beep_yourself> blak-> ok thx
[23:41] <sken_> emilien this help is too old
[23:41] <ConstantineXVI> okay, vanilla xchat connected me twice
[23:41] <sken_> i cannot find a solution
[23:41] <csilk> blak, they are authorised root certs that firefox will accept without throwing a security warning, I don't understand why you would ever be asked to select them?
[23:41] <blak> csilk: i think he will be ok to ignore that, because of that
[23:41] <csilk> yeah
[23:41] <csilk> probably
[23:42] <mrono> i installed my ATI drivers and compiz still hangs
[23:42] <piju> !pingme
[23:42] <blak> csilk:  i would just hit forward myself, i see no reason to worry about any of those right now... if those are a problem then there is a larger one than that area for sure
[23:42] <unr3a1> I feel your pain, sken_ I cannot find any solution for my issue either
[23:42] <amews_aj> csilk: http://flickr.com/photos/amewsaj/2990560630/sizes/o/
[23:42] <mrono> http://paste.ubuntu.com/65439/
[23:42] <mrono> this is what it says
[23:43] <blak> If anyone is running 8.10 on an eeepc using array.org kernel plz priv msg me!
[23:43] <unr3a1> does anyone know what I can do about my x-server?
[23:43] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: what video card are you using?
[23:43] <csilk> amews_aj, ok, set humand clearlooks then log out and log in again, that should fix that problem
[23:43] <unr3a1> jj_galvez:  ati radeon 9600/9700
[23:44] <icqnumber> mrono, looks good
[23:44] <mrono> what's supposed to happen
[23:44] <mrono> nothing happens, the console just sits there
[23:45] <icqnumber> mrono, yes, but compiz  fusion is working
[23:45] <mrono> how do i use it
[23:45] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: have you tried envyng to try and install new drivers? it should configure x for you as well
[23:46] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: at least thats always worked for me with nvidia
[23:46] <unr3a1> jj_galvez:  no i have not... whats the command?
[23:46] <amews_aj> csilk: nope, still same problem
[23:46] <jj_galvez> envyng -t
[23:46] <icqnumber> mrono, system -> preference ->appearance, goto tab visual effects, extra
[23:46] <csilk> amews_aj, did you actually log out of the x session?
[23:46] <unr3a1> ok... I am gonna go try it
[23:46] <amews_aj> Ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:46] <unr3a1> brb
[23:47] <mrono> icqnum, oh, i was told it was a settings panel for stuff,
[23:47] <mrono> i'm trying to get to the settings for my desktop switcher
[23:47] <csilk> amews_aj, hmm, in that case I'm not really sure
[23:47] <icqnumber> mrono,then you can install ccsm, type it in terminal and it will tell you howto
[23:47] <ianliu_88> I can't access my windows network with Nautilus... it shows my Network groups but can't find any PC in there, although I can directly enter the IP address, but that is really annoying, since I must go search the machine IP. Any hints?
[23:48] <Axz> can someone help me please i trayed to mount a ISO file and got this error
[23:48] <d_1inev1table> Hey im trying to boot a physical disk using vmware workstation, but how do i give vmware full access to that physical drive?
[23:48] <Axz> CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[23:48] <mrono> so i can it it to when i hover my mouse at the edge of the screen it switches
[23:48] <Axz> any ideas whats going on?
[23:48] <amews_aj> csilk: Hmm, it seems it is not the themes actually, it is compiz
[23:48] <unr3a1> jj_galvez: unknown command
[23:49] <icqnumber> mrono, so with ccsm you can customize the effects you want to have, help in #compiz-fusion channel
[23:49] <aprilhare> i am trying out compiz and i tried the 'desktop cube' setting, but it seems to reduce my workspace configuration to one desk..
[23:49] <aprilhare> i get this feeling this isnt supposed to happen :)
[23:49] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: the package might not be installed try apt-get install envyng first
[23:49] <unr3a1> aprilhare: you have to then change it back to 4.  I had the same thing happen.  for whatever reason, it resets the desktops to just one
[23:49] <aprilhare> unr3a1, how?
[23:49] <unr3a1> kk, jj_galvez.  let me try again.  brb
[23:49] <sken_> i have a problem i installed songbird and it doesn't appear in the menu
[23:50] <ubuntu> hello
[23:50] <vixey> hi ubuntu
[23:50] <unr3a1> aprilhare:  right click on the desktop square in the lower right hand corner, and hit properties.  you can change the # of screens in there
[23:50] <ubuntu> how do i change my name
[23:50] <ubuntu> lol
[23:50] <aprilhare> thanking ye unr3a1
[23:50] <unr3a1> yep
[23:50] <unr3a1> brb, jj
[23:51] <sken_> i have a problem i installed songbird and it doesn't appear in the menu
[23:51] <sken_> ?
[23:51] <aprilhare> hmmmm unr3al's suggestion doesn't work - they are all grayed out
[23:51] <d_1inev1table> Hey im trying to boot a physical disk using vmware workstation, but how do i give vmware full access to that physical drive? <-- ne ideas?
[23:51] <maynards-girl> what can i use to play music to my apple airport's speakers?
[23:51] <unr3a1> jj_galvez:  couldnt find package +envyng
[23:52] <kholerabbi> argh- I've done a mid5sum and burnt at the like 4x speed but I'm still getting problems. The latest disc won't even check the disc for faults- just comes up with an error and a restart button.
[23:52] <mikel> so any ideas why intrepid runs so slow on the CQ50 series laptops and others? iv read this is a common problem. What makes these laptops so different that they dont run the same?
[23:52] <kholerabbi> 8.10 desktop btw
[23:52] <tsrk> Hi, I had a windows partition when I installed ubuntu, and I tried to resize it during installation but for some reason the resize failed.  I just left it at it's current size and installed ubuntu on a different partition however now it can't seem to mount the ntfs filesystem or read it at all.  There are some files that I need to retrieve from the partition, what's the best way to do this, if it's even possible?
[23:53] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: try apt-get install envyng-gtk
[23:53] <mikel> kholerabbi what software do you use to burn?
[23:53] <unr3a1> kk... brb
[23:53] <jj_galvez> unr3a1: I think thats what they call the package now
[23:54] <favro> how do I stop the apps I've recompiled from being upgraded?
[23:54] <C4N-S|SEAL45> Need help getting synergy to work between windows and ubuntu.
[23:54] <mikel> kholerabbi?
[23:54] <vgn-fz31z> VCC8 Vaio Webcam on AMD64 Ubuntu 8.10, help please...
[23:55] <amews_aj> csilk: When compiz is active, the menu disappears
[23:55] <kholerabbi> mikel: default software on hardy gnome. CD/DVD creator
[23:55] <favro> kholerabbi: it might be that the drive is on its' last legs
[23:55] <LF|Irssi> C4N-S|SEAL45: i just installed synergy this moring using this tutorial http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-configure-synergy-in-six-steps/
[23:55] <RickZilla> Songbird or Amarok?
[23:55] <kholerabbi> favro Could be. it reads fine and burns dvds in other cases to the best of my knowledge
[23:56] <csilk> amews_aj,  that's pretty strange, you could always post a bug report listing the steps you have taken to get this problem
[23:57] <amews_aj> csilk: Is it easy to downgrade to ooo 2.4 ?
[23:57] <kholerabbi> favro, mikel: the only theing I could think off that could be a problem is I burnt the CD iso to and DVD disc. I thought I'd mention it..
[23:57] <MonkeyMan> My upgrade is wacked. I had hoped for a good upgrade to intrepid but all I am presented with is a whilte screen when booting into gnome. I can boot into gnome safe mode and command line. Any ideas how to fix this ?
[23:57] <ericrost> I have a server that I just installed a new hdd into that has a 500 GB xfs partition on it. I am attempting to mount it under /home/eric but it won't mount at boot even though I know I have the uuid
[23:57] <mikel> kholerabbi ok i have noticed that for somereason iv noticed on some burners that intrepid is a bit finicky i think it may have something to do with its booable flags most of the time it will bot but the cd doesnot function right (iv had this problem myself) download and try a free program called imgburn its under 2 megs and it was the only way many people were able to get the intrepid to work (and the dvd thing shouldent matter)
[23:57] <ericrost> correct in fstab (verified multiple times). When I mount it manually everthing is fine, and I can't figure out what to do to troubleshoot further
[23:57] <favro> kholerabbi: burning to dvd "shouldn't" matter afaik
[23:58] <csilk> amews_aj, erm.. I guess if you use synaptic to remive OOo3 and make sure you dont have the OOo3 repos in your software sources list then you should just be able to do sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[23:58] <DIFH-iceroot> !netinstall
[23:58] <ericrost> here is the line from fstab
[23:58] <ericrost> UUID=bc84a172-e674-40dd-86cc-cb1a7a362f1b	/home/eric	xfs	defaults,errors=remount-ro	0	1
[23:58] <mikel> kholerabbi i will stay in the room if you can get into chat and tell me if the burn with imgburn works if i doesent we'll trouble shoot
[23:58] <kholerabbi> favro mikel: thanks, I'll try imgburn. and yeah it does always boot. It's only afterwards there's problems.
[23:58] <ericrost> any ideas?
[23:59] <jj_galvez> the latest ia32-libs package is broken, any ideas how to get around this?
[23:59] <Lars_G> ~nvidia
[23:59] <Lars_G> ~tell Lars_G about nvidia