[00:23] <rgreening> ~twitter update Successful install.. restoring backed up files
[00:23] <kubotu> status updated
[00:29] <DaSkreech> What?
[00:29]  * DaSkreech pokes rgreening. Do that again
[00:35] <rgreening> lol
[00:36] <rgreening> poke poke DaSkreech
[00:36] <DaSkreech> :-)
[00:36] <DaSkreech> kubotu can update your twitter stream?
[00:38] <rgreening> yeah
[00:38] <rgreening> kubotu: help twitter
[00:38] <kubotu> twitter status [nick] => show nick's (or your) status, use 'twitter friends status [nick]' to also show the friends' timeline | twitter update [status] => updates your status on twitter | twitter identify [username] [password] => ties your nick to your twitter username and password | twitter actions [on|off] => enable/disable twitting of actions (/me does ...)
[00:38] <rgreening> ~twitter friends
[00:38] <kubotu> could not get status for rgreening
[00:38] <rgreening> ~twitter friends status rgreening
[00:38] <kubotu> could not get status for rgreening
[00:39] <rgreening> ~twitter identify rgreening
[00:39] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter'
[00:39] <rgreening> DaSkreech: ^ identify yourself in a priv channel. Then it remembers
[00:39] <DaSkreech> ha ha can it use gwibber?
[00:47] <rgreening> dunno
[00:47] <apachelogger> ~wp gwibber
[00:47] <kubotu> no results found for gwibber
[00:47] <apachelogger> -.-
[00:47] <apachelogger> ~google gwibber
[00:47] <kubotu> Results for gwibber: 1. Gwibber - Trac: http://www.google.comhttps://cixar.com/tracs/gwibber/wiki | 2. gwibber - Ubuntu Wiki: http://www.google.comhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/gwibber | 3. Gwibber in Launchpad: http://www.google.comhttps://launchpad.net/gwibber/
[00:48] <apachelogger> hm
[00:48] <apachelogger> didn't parsing work the other day?
[00:48] <vorian> ~google obama the messiah
[00:48] <kubotu> Results for obama the messiah: 1. Is Barack Obama the Messiah?: http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/ | 2. Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking': http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77539 | 3. Obama for Messiah '08: http://www.obamaformessiah.com/
[00:48] <vorian> haha
[00:48] <apachelogger> hmmmmmmm
[00:49] <apachelogger> maybe parsing is only broken for single search terms
[00:49] <rgreening> alo alo apachelogger et vorian
[00:49] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: how would that be working?
[00:49] <vorian> heya rgreening
[00:49] <apachelogger> hoy rgreening
[00:49] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Hmm?
[00:49] <rgreening> I'm running for a re-install. Just restoring my backed up stuff. Worked perfect.
[00:49] <rgreening> s/for/from
[00:49] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: a bot using gwibber
[00:50] <vorian> i saw your tweet rgreening
[00:50] <vorian> congrats :)
[00:50] <rgreening> yar.
[00:50] <DaSkreech> it has a libgwibber
[00:50] <DaSkreech> trying to figure out a kwibber client
[00:50] <DaSkreech> With plasmoid :)
[00:50] <apachelogger> does not
[00:50] <vorian> \o/
[00:50] <rgreening> What's the fix to get Konversation to open urls in konqueror?
[00:50] <apachelogger> also
[00:50] <apachelogger> isn't libgwibber python?
[00:50] <vorian> /o\
[00:51] <apachelogger> you know, someone else needs to do the reviewing of KDE releases
[00:52] <apachelogger> I am pretty near to brain disfunction
[00:52] <vorian> how many do you have left?
[00:52] <rgreening> lol
[00:52] <apachelogger> 6 or so
[00:53] <apachelogger> the bigger ones to upload
[00:53] <apachelogger> which is going to take ages
[00:53] <rgreening> and apachelogger is only a young pup... imagine me who ...
[00:53] <rgreening> is older
[00:53] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew god darn hippies
[00:53] <rgreening> lol
[00:57] <vorian> hippies
[00:58] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSadVkKMk4A and those swingers...
[00:59] <ArkoldThos> heya :)
[01:00] <rgreening> ok, seriously, how do i get Konversation to use konqueror ro open freakin urls in the chat window... gaah
[01:01] <apachelogger> bug 218668
[01:02] <apachelogger> rgreening: if I was using konvi I probably could tell you :P
[01:02] <rgreening> quassel man
[01:02] <rgreening> I had it working before...
[01:03] <DaSkreech> rgreening: keeps opening them in Firefox?
[01:03] <rgreening> no, no firefox installed, so it opens a "open with" and nothing works.
[01:03] <DaSkreech> ah mine opns with abrowser
[01:05] <rgreening> no way to config kde 3.5 apps. I see what the complaints are about...
[01:06] <DaSkreech> No kcontrol or any such
[01:07] <ScottK> rgreening: There's an option in Konversation to pick a browser.  Check it and stuff Konqueror in there for your choice.
[01:07] <DaSkreech> we should make up a list of pain points in moving from KDE3 to KDE4
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Might be useful for other distro
[01:07] <rgreening> where.. I must have missed it
[01:07] <rgreening> ScottK: ^
[01:08]  * ScottK looks
[01:10] <ScottK-laptop> Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General -> Miscellaneous -> Use custom web browser: check off and add konqueror '%u'
[01:10] <ScottK> rgreening: ^^^
[01:11] <apachelogger> rgreening: that is most likely konversations fault
[01:11] <rgreening> ah. hmm... we should probably have defaulted it to konqueror in the build huh
[01:11] <rgreening> lol
[01:11] <rgreening> intepid-update maybe?
[01:12] <rgreening> yay. works now
[01:12] <rgreening> ty ScottK
[01:12] <apachelogger> it probably tries to detect the desktop, it fails to detect KDE, because it doesn't work with KDE 4 properly and falls back to openwith instead of using kfmclient or xdg-open
[01:24] <rgreening> apachelogger... for kdenightly/neon.... is there a way to install it as the default DE? I was going to setup a intrepid VM and wanted to take KDE 4.2 for a spin...
[01:24] <rgreening> or whats the right wat to get it running
[01:45] <apachelogger> rgreening: just install it and remove the regular kdelibs
[01:48] <rgreening> Just kdelibs?
[01:48] <rgreening> and deps (obviously)
[01:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Feel like doing the MIR for powerdevil?  The sooner it's promoted, the sooner Guidance can die.
[01:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: powerdevil is part of kdebase in 4.2
[01:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: Ah.
[01:52] <rgreening> not easily ported?
[01:52] <ScottK> Then it won't need a MIR since it's in a source package already in Main.
[01:52] <apachelogger> rgreening: well, removing kdelibs will remove most other stuff anyway
[01:53] <rgreening> okies
[02:09] <Hobbsee> ScottK: interesting posts
[02:09] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks.  Any in particular?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> ScottK: latest blog post, in particular
[02:10] <ScottK> Oh.  That one just seemed like common sense to me, but it's gotten lots of comments.
[02:10]  * Hobbsee is pondering getting her friend to switch, or so.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> well, it is, somewhat.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> but what to actually do for those windows-y apps, etc...
[02:11] <ScottK> Of course you can install KDE on Windows now.
[02:11] <ScottK> Just to keep us kind of on topic here.
[02:12] <ScottK> Interesting news from .au: http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24561082-5013040,00.html
[02:12] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Tried Kubuntu Intrepid yet?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> nasty.  Good chance to switch them to ubuntu and such
[02:13] <Hobbsee> been seeing an incremental uptake of ubuntu at uni, actually
[02:13] <Hobbsee> ScottK: only in a VM for a bit.
[02:14] <rgreening> Hobbsee: I have at least 10 fiends/family switched and they all love it. None are technical at all either
[02:14] <ScottK> I do think it turned out quite well and it really is a lot more modern looking that KDE3
[02:14] <ScottK> I saw a Ubuntu Hardy desktop at the Python Intrest Group meeting I went to last week and it looked old and tired in comparison.  No idea how Ubuntu Intrepid would look next to it.
[02:15] <rgreening> My parents, who are in their 60's and computer illiterate use it for email, chatting, etc.
[02:15] <Hobbsee> rgreening: her dad likes it.  I should take a cd over there.
[02:15] <rgreening> :)
[02:15] <Hobbsee> been slowly converting him
[02:15] <Hobbsee> pity i don't have an alternate cd, to upgrade his
[02:16] <rgreening> Mom and dad wanted a new computer but a limited budget. I got them one without windows to save them 100$.
[02:16] <rgreening> Installed hardy and it worked perfect.
[02:16] <rgreening> Im still trying to convince my sister...
[02:17] <Hobbsee> it'll just be some old dos programs that won't work, i expect.
[02:17] <rgreening> My wife was easy to convert. "If you want a computer and you want me to support it, learn linux" :)
[02:17] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:17] <Hobbsee> oh, and i need a shirt.  "No, I will not fix your computer"
[02:17] <rgreening> lol.
[02:18] <ScottK> I think I've seen that shirt.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> so have I, but i don't have one
[02:20] <Hobbsee> OTOH, i probably oculdnt' wear it to work
[02:21] <Hobbsee> "oh, you're doing a computing degree?  <cue talk about all the problems with his windows not working, and a format being needed>"
[02:23] <rgreening> when someone with windows ask me to help them, I hand then a Kubuntu CD and say, insert, wait, click install and then I walk away.
[02:24] <JontheEchidna> lol
[02:24] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:24] <rgreening> :)
[02:36] <rgreening> When I go to UDS, I'm going to have to bring some stuff from here :)
[02:36] <rgreening> for my Kubuntu buds
[02:38] <ScottK> Get stacks of CDs because shipit seems to only want to send me ugly brown ones.
[02:45] <rgreening> lol
[02:45] <rgreening> I was thinking more along the lines of something Newfoundlandish...
[02:46] <rgreening> I think Im taking my Camera too ... It's a Rebel-Xt D-SLR
[02:46] <rgreening> so I can get some snappies
[02:46] <rgreening> for the blog
[03:16] <ScottK> Man.  Spend an hour or two writing a blog post on details of new mail server features in Intrepid.  Ho-hum.  A comment or two.  Spend 10 minutes zapping out something on switching your kids to Linux and the comments pour in.
[12:36] <glade88> hello.. what would be the binary for the embedded konsole in dolphin? kdebase?
[12:39] <stdin> glade88: yes
[12:40] <mcas> hello
[12:40] <glade88> stdin: thanks :)
[12:40] <mcas> has anyone seen a problem with the colours in kde4?
[12:41] <mcas> please look at this screenshot
[12:41] <mcas> http://www.asshaueronline.de/pictures/kde4-mcas.jpeg
[12:43] <apachelogger> mcas: you are suffering from a case of "I fucked up my settings - need HALP" :P
[12:43] <apachelogger> mcas: systemesttings -> appearance -> icons -> advanced -> reset to defaults
[12:45] <mcas> apachelogger: thanks but the icons didn't changed
[12:45] <apachelogger> relogin
[12:45] <apachelogger> or maybe something doens't get reset
[12:45] <mcas> brb
[12:48] <mcas> re
[12:48] <mcas> apachelogger: still the same problem
[12:48] <apachelogger> mcas: paste your kdeglobals config
[12:48] <mcas> but if i click on the K-button it changed to blue
[12:49] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:50] <mcas> which config do you mean?
[12:50] <apachelogger> .kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[12:52] <mcas> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/493
[12:59] <apachelogger> mcas: search for Icons, remove all section of the sort [PanelIcons] [MainToolbarIcons] etc.
[12:59] <apachelogger> then _KILL_ your X
[13:01] <mcas> brb
[13:05] <mcas> re
[13:05] <mcas> apachelogger: same effect
[13:07] <apachelogger> mcas: paste the new kdeglobals
[13:12] <mcas> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/494
[13:25] <apachelogger> mcas: maybe it is related to the Color stuff
[13:25] <apachelogger> if it's not that I am pretty much out of ideas
[13:26] <mcas> i did a reset to defaults in the color section
[13:26] <mcas> no result
[14:27] <Sime> anyone know a simple way of hunting non-standard installed .debs?
[14:54] <apachelogger> Sime: non-standard installed?
[15:13] <Sime> ppa etc.
[15:13] <Sime> it's working now...
[15:16] <apachelogger> I think I found a bug ;-)
[15:16] <apachelogger> Sime: in theory you should be able to use dpkg-query to get all packages which not originated in Ubuntu, however that seems to be broken
[15:16] <Sime> oh
[15:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: migration to akonadi is at least going to start in 4.2
[15:21]  * apachelogger is going to prepare a couple of scripts (if not already by upstream) to easy migration testing
[15:25] <smarter> http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/network-manager.jpg << I think I saw something like that on another OS... :P
[15:46] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please find a way to be making it optional.
[15:50] <apachelogger> ScottK: optional?
[16:00] <glade88> my.. is bugs.kde.org down? oO
[16:01] <Arby> glade88: not for me
[16:02] <Arby> if it's throwing errors wait a few minutes and try again
[16:02] <Arby> it does that a lot
[16:03] <glade88> Arby: I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/65776/
[16:03] <glade88> trying since about 10 mins now
[16:03] <Arby> glade88: that's a new one on me
[16:03] <glade88> :)
[16:04] <Arby> might as well send the e-mail as suggested
[16:04] <glade88> ok
[16:04] <glade88> I'll do that..
[16:04] <Arby> I've seen it fail due to lack of available database connections quite frequently
[16:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'd like the option to keep my mail in the current maildir store I use and not be forced to akonadi.  Dunno if that's possible or not.
[16:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: I guess so
[16:05] <apachelogger> but akonadi is more reliable in any case
[16:05] <apachelogger> so I am not sure we shouldn't force it
[16:05] <apachelogger> I don't really feel like supporting these broken maildirs anymore TBH
[16:05] <ScottK> apachelogger: I've never lost a message due to using Kmail and maildir.  From my POV there is nothing possible more reliable.
[16:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: I did some years ago, nothing recent but according to bug reports the problems persist
[16:06] <apachelogger> so for you the reliability would just stay the same, but everything would be fast ;-)
[16:06] <ScottK> The only problems I've seen are with IMAP and that's Kmail IMAP, not maildir.
[16:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: I may believe that eventually, but I'm skeptical up front.
[16:07] <ScottK> Faster would be nice, but not if it's going to risk my data.
[16:09] <apachelogger> ScottK: I never saw mysql loose data ;-) but I understand the POV. that is why I want to make testing as easy as possible, so we don't have to fear dataloss once akonadi becomes default
[16:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: This is roughly equivalent to switching to Outlook .pst from my POV.
[16:10] <ScottK> Switching from a standardized data format with lots of diverse tool and a long history to some opaque sheme that is unproven.
[16:10]  * ScottK has to run.
[16:11] <seele> ScottK: see you in a few!
[16:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: you said essentially the same about switching to KDE 4 :P
[16:11]  * seele shoud probably run too.. she's probably furhter away thank ScottK :P
[16:11] <apachelogger> should be well thought through either way
[16:12] <ScottK> seele: I have to drop kids off in multiple locations first.
[16:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: My primary desktop is still Dapper ...
[16:14] <apachelogger> nothing wrong with that but the KMail maildir implimentation is buggy, you might not be affected but a lot of people are and especially the IMAP issues hurt
[16:14]  * smarter lost half his mails one month ago
[16:14] <smarter> not sure if I should blame KMail or something else
[16:15] <apachelogger> probably kmail, it likes to loose or cripple stuff from what I read
[16:15] <apachelogger> but in a completely random way, which makes debugging one awful job
[16:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: at least for kcal/kabc the migration is going to happen via compat resources which import the data and then the apps use akonadi, so I guess it should be possible to just use the compat resources instead of akonadi itself
[16:50] <apachelogger> Guest21892: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/271598
[16:50] <apachelogger> most awesome
[16:52] <larsivi> hi - I am upgrading to ibex from hardy, but it doesn
[16:52] <larsivi> doesnt start - /var seems to be mounted as a read only filesystem
[16:52] <apachelogger> #kubuntu for support
[17:01] <larsivi> apachelogger: sure, but I rarely ever get answers there
[17:02] <glade88> apachelogger: what would replace skim in jaunty?
[17:02] <glade88> apachelogger: and why was it added to intrepid anyway?
[17:02] <apachelogger> glade88: the Qt 4 bridge
[17:02] <apachelogger> I am not sure skim is part of the default installation anymore
[17:02] <apachelogger> it caused problems with the qt4 bridge IIRC
[17:03] <glade88> well it was introduced on 26th oct iirc
[17:03] <glade88> and had to be immediately patched since it was causing app lags
[17:04] <apachelogger> it got introduced on 2006-02-04 :P
[17:04] <glade88> o.O
[17:04] <glade88> wasn't it remoed after then, I didn't have it until the 26th oc update
[17:04] <glade88> *oct
[17:05] <apachelogger> no, you just didn't see it because of a patch in kde4libs
[17:05] <apachelogger> eventually it was by default installed the whole intrepid development cycle
[17:05] <glade88> hm.. oic
[17:05] <apachelogger> just not listed in the menu
[17:06] <smarter> skim was disabled because it doesn't work with Qt4 apps
[17:06] <glade88> and I suddenly noticed it when it generated this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/289733
[17:06] <smarter> or at least kde4 apps
[17:06] <Guest21892> smarter: I guess it can be removed from jaunty then?
[17:06] <smarter> it should be ported to qt4, not removed
[17:07] <apachelogger_> smarter: there is no port whatsoever
[17:07] <apachelogger_> I don't know what the use of skim is anyway
[17:07] <smarter> languages with characters that can't be all displayed on a keyboard
[17:07] <glade88> apachelogger_: maybe in OO.o transliteration?
[17:07] <apachelogger_> well, that is what scim-bridge is doing
[17:08] <apachelogger_> no clue what the use of skim is
[17:08] <smarter> skim is a tray icon to configure the thing and make it work
[17:08] <apachelogger_> I guess it should be ported then
[17:08] <apachelogger_> but meanwhile removed from the archives
[17:08] <apachelogger_> there is no point in having unusable and confusing software stick around
[17:09] <smarter> as you want
[17:09]  * apachelogger_ is falling asleep because of the lightning fast branching with launchpad
[17:12] <apachelogger> smarter: go test 4.1.3
[17:12] <apachelogger> all except artwork stacked-online
[17:13] <smarter> built for amd64? :P
[17:14] <apachelogger> smarter: install a vm
[17:15] <apachelogger> smarter: or get me a build server
[17:15] <smarter> still no news of private ppas?
[17:15] <apachelogger_> no
[17:16] <apachelogger_> seriously, why can't I invoke a branch command in launchpad directly?
[17:17] <apachelogger_> running it through my maschine is so pointless
[17:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/hardy
[17:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/intrepid rather
[17:28] <apachelogger> *note to myself, I don't like konversation*
[17:29] <apachelogger> hrr
[17:29] <apachelogger> there we go
[17:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: please test the fix for bug 271598
[19:01]  * claydoh loves reading apachelogger 's comments in launchpad :)
[20:00] <larsivi_> hi - I asked here a couple of days ago whether hardy-ibex upgrade would convert my mail accounts to kde4, and was told yes
[20:00] <larsivi_> this appears to not have happened, in fact the kmail settings dialog is completely blank
[20:05] <smarter> kmail has never been reliable for storing datas
[20:06] <larsivi_> I mean, there are no buttons/fields in the settings dialog beyond the ones at the bottom (ok, apply, cancel)
[20:06] <smarter> strange
[20:06] <smarter> could you provide a screenshot?
[20:07] <larsivi_> I could but don't really see the point - there is nothing to there :P
[20:08] <smarter> that could always give us a clue
[20:09] <larsivi_> I'll get back to you, have to put my boy in bed
[20:10] <smarter> ok
[20:56] <snikker> bluetooth doesn't work in 8.10?
[21:01] <rgreening> nope. in the release notes...
[21:01] <rgreening> the bluez stack got updated at the last minute and it broke in KDE
[21:02] <snikker> is not possible to fix it?
[21:03] <rgreening> not until KDE solid updates can be backported I believe
[21:04] <snikker> oh, this is not a good news... :(
[21:49] <apachelogger> claydoh: of course you do :P
[21:50] <claydoh> heh
[21:50]  * claydoh likes angery talk :)
[21:52] <claydoh> s/rough/angry
[21:59] <apachelogger> I am wondering how exactly bug 43238 is a KDE issue
[21:59] <apachelogger> smarter: thoughts?
[22:00] <smarter> it's not
[22:01] <smarter> gtk open/save dialogs just suck :P
[22:01] <smarter> one solution is to use kgtk
[22:01] <smarter> which make gtk apps use kde dialogs
[22:01] <apachelogger> that is no solution
[22:01] <apachelogger> that is a workaround
[22:01] <apachelogger> ~facts about apachelogger
[22:01] <kubotu> [5/13] apachelogger has a batman pyjama. [6/13] "...and apachelogger hates workarounds". [7/13] apachelogger loves to pimp his hookers
[22:01] <smarter> :}
[22:01] <apachelogger> bouncing back to firefox
[22:01] <smarter> so, we just have to hope we get a good Firefox Qt
[22:02] <smarter> or that webkit will rule them all
[22:03] <apachelogger> webkit does rule em all
[22:22] <apachelogger> bug 248366
[22:24] <apachelogger> xerosis: most assaulting
[22:25] <apachelogger> don't get how this is caused by xine-plugin though
[22:26] <xerosis> the mindd boggles
[22:27] <apachelogger> ahhh
[22:30] <apachelogger> xerosis: any clue where that would be displayed anyway?
[22:31] <xerosis> apachelogger: the only time I've seen that was in gxine I think, is it used as a browser plugin?
[22:31] <apachelogger> possibly
[22:32] <apachelogger> xerosis: feel free to close that bug as won't fix ;-)
[22:32] <smarter> xine has an ui too
[22:32] <xerosis> ah yeah, xine-ui
[22:33]  * smarter remembers using it, like 3 years ago :]
[22:33] <apachelogger> smarter: it doesn't use that logo though
[22:34] <xerosis> using gxine would account for the gnome logo
[22:34] <smarter> dunno, I thought it had some kind of splash screen
[22:34] <smarter> xerosis: probably
[22:35]  * xerosis installs to check
[22:36] <xerosis> nope, that has a lovely 3d logo
[22:38] <apachelogger> stdin: please follow SRU for bug 290589
[22:39] <stdin> apachelogger: I wanted some feedback on the patch before I took it further
[22:39] <apachelogger> okies
[22:39] <apachelogger> stdin: where did you ask for feedback? :P
[22:39] <stdin> here :)
[22:39] <apachelogger> did not see
[22:39] <stdin> it was a couple days ago now
[22:40] <stdin> I got called on babysitting duty this week
[22:40]  * apachelogger hugs stdin
[22:52] <apachelogger> I think jonny boy got lost again
[23:12] <ScottK> Today, for me, should be titled "Not quite enough time to go all the way home".
[23:12] <ScottK> Home for the first time in ~8 hours.
[23:12]  * ScottK waves at seele.
[23:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'll look at the Konversation/Konqueror thing a bit later.
[23:13] <ScottK> Dinner/getting kids to bed first.
[23:19]  * seele waves at ScottK 
[23:19] <seele> ScottK: ugh.. after a brownie AND a milkshake i dunno if i'm going to make it to dinner tonight
[23:20] <ScottK> ;-)
[23:20] <ScottK> You only had half the milkshake though.
[23:24] <seele> yes, but the milkshake was humungous.. so it was really two milkshakes
[23:25] <seele> it was better than the brownie too.. too bad i didnt drink the milkshake before i ate the brownie
[23:26] <Arby> what's our policy for bugs in kpdf (KDE3) now that we have okular in KDE4?
[23:27] <ScottK> Arby: No kdpf in Intrepid so won'tfix unless it's potentially SRU worthy and then look into that.
[23:28] <Arby> ScottK: is completely unable to print considered SRU worthy?
[23:28] <Arby> specifically bug 230134
[23:29] <Arby> it's actually kpdf that can't print, everything else is fine
[23:29] <ScottK> Potentially.  How certain is it that it's kpdf's fault?
[23:29] <Arby> kghostview is fine,openoffice is fine
[23:29] <apachelogger> according to upstream our KPDF is patched useless
[23:30] <ScottK> Maybe.  Arby I'd mark it won'tfix (due to not in Jaunty) and nominate for Hardy.
[23:31] <rgreening> I hate poker! grr.. Had a Royal Flush chip leader... next hand had a straigh someone flopped quad 10s
[23:31] <Arby> ScottK: thanks