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| === bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Next Hug Day is 4 Nov | Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu | ||
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| calc | is there somewhere to reassign package foo bugs? | 02:26 |
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| calc | i have several assigned to openoffice.org, heh | 02:26 |
| calc | er to package program foo i mean | 02:26 |
| calc | something like RFP for debian | 02:26 |
| saivann | bdmurray : Concerning bug 270777, did you try with different artists? Perhaps that the bug you hit is only with a specific filename? Also, if you want, I built latest rhythmbox trunk so you can test it, in my PPA : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/saivann/ubuntu intrepid main | 02:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 270777 in rhythmbox "[SRU] unable to copy music from an MTP device" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270777 | 02:44 |
| === LucidFox is now known as Sikon | ||
| === Sikon is now known as LucidFox | ||
| bdmurray | saivann: sweet, I'll test that out | 03:43 |
| saivann | bdmurray : Thanks :) | 03:52 |
| calc | oh hell | 04:49 |
| calc | i think i found something that makes my triaging a pita | 04:49 |
| calc | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status_upstream=hide_upstream | 04:49 |
| calc | that hides all bugs that have any kind of upstream status (or seems to) | 04:49 |
| calc | even if the upstream status is 'invalid' | 04:49 |
| calc | add to that there is no way to delete an upstream tag in general and it makes triaging bugs competently very hard | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | actually, there might be. | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | i thought the same about nominations, but it turns out there is | 05:00 |
| calc | Hobbsee: how is that? | 05:05 |
| calc | Hobbsee: er how do you delete nominations? | 05:05 |
| calc | hell even if it was only exposed via api i would write something to let me do that, i have lots of bugs with bad tasks on thm | 05:06 |
| calc | my wife managed to get on the 'cover' of her favorite online magazine, heh :) | 05:16 |
| calc | she just sent me the link | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | calc: don't remember, but it was mentioned on u-d-a | 05:21 |
| calc | remember the subject ? :) | 05:24 |
| calc | i can't seem to find it | 05:24 |
| calc | oh i think i see it | 05:25 |
| calc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting#Untargeting%20bugs | 05:25 |
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| calc | you just set it to 'won't fix' | 05:26 |
| LimCore | how well does kde work in 8.10? because week before 8.10 come out, most kde was not present, so I wonder is 8.10 amd64 good yet for production server+desktop | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | LimCore: #kubuntu might be a better bet to ask that | 09:28 |
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| ben2talk | quiet room :o everyone busy with this one? >>>This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed. | 11:35 |
| AnAnt | Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) did not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? | 12:22 |
| AnAnt | s/did not/does not/ | 12:22 |
| pjbroad | hello, is this the right place to ask about an "Answers" status change? | 12:51 |
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| pjbroad | well, if anyone returns who can edit "Answers" status. Please can you change Question #49351 to "Needs information". I pressed the wrong button. Thanks | 12:54 |
| rio | any ideas on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44976? | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 44976 in linux-source-2.6.15 "hdaps module does not work with the Thinkpad X60s (dup-of: 33950)" [Medium,Invalid] | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 33950 in linux-source-2.6.17 "hdaps Y axis inverted" [Medium,Fix released] | 12:56 |
| rio | err wrong link | 12:57 |
| rio | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274510 | 12:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274510 in linux "hdaps doesn't load on thinkpad t60 while tp_smapi loaded. where is hdaps_ec?" [Undecided,New] | 12:57 |
| azimout | pjboard: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/49351 has been corrected to "info request" | 13:00 |
| ben2talk | any ideas about theming problems arising from 8.04 to 8.10 upgrading? | 13:13 |
| xteejx | Hi guys, sorry to be a pain but can someone have a look at bug 287244 please? I've tried giving as much detail on the failed boot as possible and typed up the dump/trace just before the kernel panic. Does anything else need to go onto it, and if so what does it need and how do I go about getting it? I hate Vista...well Microsoft full-stop and am an avid Ubuntu lover and want it on this laptop its not even 2 weeks old it's a shame i | 13:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 13:14 |
| azimout | rio: i've posted a comment to you bug | 13:14 |
| xteejx | Also how do I go about helping on the bug day on the 4th? Will I need a Ubuntu installation as that's looking unlikely lol Is there any other way I can participate at all? | 13:17 |
| rio | azimout: i read it, but since theres no hdaps_ec, i think the hdaps module is the one shipped with tp_smapi, but i'm not sure | 13:18 |
| azimout | xteejx: i pasted a comment in your bug report | 13:24 |
| xteejx | Question for anyone who can answer...how do I disable Atheros wifi drivers completely during boot-up on the live cd, I believe it might be the main reason my laptop isn't working, its an Atheros AR5007 | 13:25 |
| xteejx | thanks azimout | 13:25 |
| azimout | rio: i have no experience with thinkpads, this is just what i found through google | 13:27 |
| xteejx | azimout: Have replied on the bug sorry for the confusion | 13:28 |
| azimout | it seemed to me that tp_smapi includes the functionality of hdaps | 13:28 |
| rio | azimout: okay | 13:33 |
| ben2talk | Question: ubuntu 8.10 liveCD can install themes (with errors) but the installations cannot. What is wrong with the user account? | 13:34 |
| azimout | ben2talk: please file a bug report under (probably) the package gnome-control-center, describing your problem with as much detail as possible | 13:36 |
| xteejx | Question: How do I blacklist Atheros AR5007 on bootup on live cd to see if that is the problem with bootup please? | 13:37 |
| xteejx | i think the module is ath_pci | 13:39 |
| rrittenhouse | xteejx: I've never done it but maybe add it to /etc/modprobe/blacklist ? | 13:40 |
| xteejx | rrittenhouse: I doubt I'll be able to do that on a live CD :( My laptop won't boot past the usplash screen I'm not sure how to disable the bugger in kernel boot options on livecd :( | 13:41 |
| rrittenhouse | oooh. Yeah that's a problem ;) | 13:41 |
| xteejx | lol just a bit :) | 13:41 |
| xteejx | It's annoying its the first REAL problem I've had and its MY bloody laptop only 2 weeks old :'( | 13:42 |
| rrittenhouse | ah, that sucks :( | 13:42 |
| xteejx | Tell me about it :( | 13:42 |
| rrittenhouse | What error are you getting? | 13:42 |
| xteejx | Errr its in bug 287244 a lot of crap kernel panic messages | 13:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 13:42 |
| rrittenhouse | xteejx: so your just trying to boot the livecd? You don't have it installed on the drive? | 13:44 |
| xteejx | Nope can't even get to the point where I CAN install it unfortunately it panics 30 seconds after the usplash screen with all them errors, i *think* its the Atheros driver but I don't know how to disable it to see if its the problem | 13:45 |
| rrittenhouse | have you tried the alternative cd? | 13:45 |
| xteejx | to be honest yes but i forgot what error it came up with lol | 13:46 |
| xteejx | it qwasnt the same | 13:46 |
| rrittenhouse | lol ok. | 13:47 |
| azimout | xteejx: try with 8.10 final, they moved ath5k to linux-backports-modules | 13:47 |
| xteejx | similar problem though, but if i remember correctly it couldn't find the cd for some reason and i burned 3 different copies at 3 different speeds | 13:47 |
| rrittenhouse | Ah. I assumed he was using 8.10 final =/ Oops | 13:48 |
| azimout | to avoid burning all these cds, try unetbootin and a flash disk | 13:48 |
| xteejx | 8.10 final? you mean the main available one to download? | 13:48 |
| rrittenhouse | as of thursday 8.10 came out | 13:48 |
| azimout | yes, instead of 8.10 beta | 13:48 |
| rrittenhouse | yeah | 13:48 |
| xteejx | thats what i'm using - downloaded it yesterday | 13:48 |
| azimout | ok | 13:49 |
| xteejx | what about a daily iso would that make a difference? | 13:49 |
| azimout | on your bug report you were talking about beta | 13:49 |
| xteejx | yeah i know but i put an update section thing at the bottom explaining it still happens in final | 13:49 |
| azimout | sorry, just saw it :-$ | 13:50 |
| xteejx | lol :) | 13:50 |
| xteejx | I know its a bit messed up but i kept trying different things an updating and adding to the botom of it | 13:50 |
| azimout | you say you found talk about it on other forums. it would help if you pasted the links in the bug in a comment | 13:52 |
| xteejx | note: I don't have a flash drive to be able to use unetbootin but have about 10 cdr's left so its ok for now | 13:52 |
| xteejx | sure | 13:52 |
| xteejx | azimout: done | 13:53 |
| xteejx | i just found a boot option on that same forum page will try it in a minute: brokenmodules=ath5k | 13:54 |
| rrittenhouse | I saw that; they were talking about it being for a different distro but it couldnt hurt for you to try it | 13:55 |
| xteejx | exactly :) will let you know how it goes - fingers crossed | 13:58 |
| rrittenhouse | ok gl :D | 13:59 |
| rio | no progess with hdaps :( | 14:55 |
| xteejx | No luck unfortunately, tried kernel boot options brokenmodules=ath_pci also ath_hal and also blacklist=ath_pci and ath_hal but nothing seems to be working | 15:21 |
| xteejx | this time though the kernel panic showed a few lines about wake and some other gunf...but still no boot :( | 15:22 |
| xteejx | bug 287244 : Updated | 15:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 15:27 |
| pwnguin | is there a purpose to marking duplicate bugs invalid? | 15:46 |
| biki[1] | hi | 16:00 |
| biki[1] | does anyone know if there is any patch that enables wireless network in 8.10 ? | 16:01 |
| biki[1] | i mean fixes | 16:02 |
| biki[1] | ahh fuck that | 16:04 |
| AnAnt | Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) does not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? | 16:07 |
| xteejx | Bug 287244 has been updated and now has a screenshot of the kernel panic error if it helps solve the problem. Thanks guys | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 16:18 |
| xteejx | If any more info is needed or anything needs to be done with the above please let me know and I will try to sort it out ASAP, I'm sick of M$ and want my beloved Ubuntu back :( | 16:21 |
| xteejx | Can someone have a look at bug 287244 please as I believe it may be due to the same problems shown in bug 278823. | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 278823 in linux-meta "Atheros 5007 wireless still doesn't work in intrepid beta????" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278823 | 16:38 |
| xteejx | Anyone available to take a look at 287244 at all as this isn't just a problem with Ubuntu but almost ALL linux distros and it *seems* to e affecting quite a few people. I'd really appreciate any insight into the problem and am OK with giving any more details that are needed. | 16:46 |
| savvas | hm.. anyone here? | 18:23 |
| savvas | I try to link a bug with a debian one: u'Package gip not published in Debian' | 18:24 |
| savvas | I guess it's a launchpad-edge bug (?) | 18:25 |
| crimsun | maco: RE 291379, it's still a bug in pa (gconf-side). pa completely ignores asoundrcs. | 18:29 |
| crimsun | maco: I.e., it's intentional (by design) that pa completely ignores asoundrcs; the bug is that gconf parsing is still buggered. | 18:30 |
| AnAnt | Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) does not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? | 18:32 |
| xteejx | Question for anyone that can help: What does it mean when I get a kernel panic and it says it isn't syncing and to run the problem through mcelog --ascii and contact my hardware vendor? My laptop isn't even 2 weeks old it can't be a hardware problem. | 18:52 |
| crimsun | it certainly /can/ be a hardware issue, but I would attempt to reproduce the symptom across a number of different live cds | 18:53 |
| xteejx | I have managed to do it other 2-3 burns of 8.04 and 8.04.1 and although Intrepid doesn't give the same error message the kernel still panics at the same point it seems : at the ath_pci bit | 18:54 |
| xteejx | It's all in relation to bug 287244. I still can't seem to get anywhere with it :( | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 18:54 |
| xteejx | It's REALLY frustrating, its the first *REAL* problem I've had, other times at least its booted even on other laptops and things were fixable, but I'm stumped with my OWN laptop - typical - fix other peoples and can't even get my own to work!! lol | 18:58 |
| savvas | hehe :) | 19:02 |
| xteejx | Its not funny savvas lol :) | 19:02 |
| savvas | sorry, wouldn't want to be in your position | 19:03 |
| xteejx | me neither .... oh well bit late now :P | 19:03 |
| savvas | but you must admit it is kind of ironic :p | 19:03 |
| savvas | have you tried with other distributions? | 19:04 |
| xteejx | yeah it is...the one person that fixes god knows how many M$ machines for mates and does the odd bug-hunt for ubuntu gets lumbered with a £400 laptop that doesn't bloody work lol | 19:04 |
| xteejx | Yeah other distros exact same problem :( | 19:04 |
| xteejx | although apparently opensuse 11.0 is *meant* to work but i don't want to waste a dvd on something i won't use | 19:05 |
| savvas | hm... alternate install? | 19:05 |
| savvas | ah but wait, kernel panic, should be the same there too | 19:05 |
| xteejx | yup unfortunately | 19:05 |
| savvas | can you paste or type the exact error? maybe we can dig up something | 19:06 |
| xteejx | its all in bug 287244 - there's plenty of output crap on it trust me lol | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 19:06 |
| savvas | woops, I'll have a look | 19:06 |
| xteejx | lol thx savvas :) | 19:07 |
| xteejx | brb | 19:07 |
| savvas | xteejx: have you tried booting the live cd using boot options? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions | 19:23 |
| savvas | brokenmodules=ath5k is mentioned in the forum thread you posted at the bug report | 19:25 |
| savvas | hm.. it might just work | 19:26 |
| ogra | ath5k is disabled in the final release | 19:26 |
| ogra | by default | 19:26 |
| savvas | argh | 19:26 |
| ogra | a properly working ath5k is in the linux-backports-modules package | 19:26 |
| ogra | well .... s/properly/more proper/ | 19:27 |
| savvas | brokenmodules=ath_pci then? heh | 19:27 |
| xteejx | back | 19:27 |
| xteejx | savvas: I can try it I suppose, which one intrepid or hardy.1? | 19:28 |
| ogra | ath_pci should work | 19:28 |
| savvas | xteejx: intrepid | 19:28 |
| xteejx | Its my bug guys so if you want me to try something I'm open to suggestions | 19:28 |
| savvas | ogra: is ath9k also disabled by default? | 19:29 |
| xteejx | savvas: OK will reboot now and try it with brokenmodules=ath_pci removing splash and quiet | 19:29 |
| ogra | savvas, nope, that should work better than madwifi | 19:29 |
| savvas | go go go :) | 19:29 |
| xteejx | can I not use a wildcard like brokenmodules=ath* ? | 19:29 |
| ogra | for ath5k cards madwifi should work fine | 19:29 |
| ogra | (i.e. ath_pci) | 19:29 |
| xteejx | trying it now brb guys :) and ps thanks a LOT for helping :) | 19:30 |
| savvas | imagine now "everything works, but I have no internet" hehe | 19:37 |
| xteejx | Hey guys, tried kernel boot option brokenmodules=ath_pci still no luck | 19:50 |
| xteejx | Will update bug report with photo of the error | 19:50 |
| savvas | darn | 19:52 |
| xteejx | Bug 287244 updated to show the above for those that were helping | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 19:52 |
| xteejx | savvas: I know. | 19:52 |
| xteejx | There's a photo of the new error on the bug report if it helps? | 19:54 |
| savvas | xteejx: brb | 19:58 |
| xteejx | Any ideas or suggestions? | 19:58 |
| xteejx | savvas: Sure :) | 19:58 |
| angusthefuzz | xteejx: can you disable the hardware in the bios? | 19:58 |
| xteejx | Unfortuantely not its an HP/Compaq laptop, they like to lock BIOS options out for the regular 'dumb' users lol | 19:59 |
| angusthefuzz | xteejx: can you destroy the hardware with a soldering iron? | 19:59 |
| savvas | lol | 20:00 |
| xteejx | lol if you buy me a new laptop sure :) lol | 20:00 |
| savvas | hm.. | 20:00 |
| savvas | xteejx: do you know your bios version? | 20:00 |
| xteejx | errrrrrrrrrrrrr................ | 20:00 |
| xteejx | nope - doubt a bios update will make a difference...and laptop is just 2 weeks old - HP like to lock out every option anyway | 20:01 |
| angusthefuzz | xteejx: does the laptop have a hardware switch? | 20:02 |
| savvas | http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7051&postcount=13 | 20:02 |
| xteejx | as in?? | 20:02 |
| CarlFK1 | I have an Atheros AR242x (is it really X, or does no one know exactly what the 4th digit is? hp.com just says "802.11b/g WLAN" | 20:02 |
| xteejx | it means AR242 series the nunber at end probably doesnt make a difference as the one series will all use same driver | 20:03 |
| CarlFK1 | xteejx: I can believe that, but still wondering what exact card I have | 20:04 |
| xteejx | That forum post - the guy has different laptop mine is a CQ50-110EM | 20:04 |
| xteejx | have you tried lspci ? | 20:04 |
| CarlFK1 | lspci = AR242x | 20:04 |
| xteejx | oops :) | 20:04 |
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| xteejx | CarlFK1: What does Vista report it as? Should show in that unless you formatted completely | 20:05 |
| CarlFK1 | it's dual boot, but I am not sure I have ever gone though the 'welcome do vista' stuff | 20:06 |
| CarlFK1 | lspci -n 168c:001c | 20:07 |
| xteejx | ahh that helps | 20:07 |
| xteejx | let me google it hehe | 20:07 |
| xteejx | Apparently Carl it comes under the AR5006 series not 242x | 20:08 |
| xteejx | let me guess....driver problems? | 20:08 |
| CarlFK1 | yep | 20:08 |
| angusthefuzz | xteejx: can you boot without pci? pci=off | 20:09 |
| savvas | xteejx: have you tried nosata option? | 20:09 |
| CarlFK1 | [ 123.251121] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) | 20:09 |
| xteejx | no pci? will that be safe with AC power etc? and nosata? | 20:09 |
| savvas | xteejx: looks like you'll have to play a bit with the bootoptions from the wiki link | 20:10 |
| xteejx | what will it install to if there's no hard drive lol | 20:10 |
| savvas | xteejx: correct, but at least then we'll know where the problem is | 20:10 |
| xteejx | what link is that savvas? | 20:10 |
| savvas | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions | 20:10 |
| xteejx | wicked!! :) | 20:10 |
| xteejx | I'll write every single one down and reboot about 50 times narrow the bugger down lol | 20:10 |
| savvas | cool :) | 20:11 |
| savvas | oh.. | 20:11 |
| savvas | try this one too: skipsata | 20:11 |
| savvas | I don't know if it works, just suggesting from a google search :p | 20:11 |
| xteejx | Carl: In regards to your problem you may want to have a look on Launchpad.net there's quite a few problems with the madwifi drivers and atheros cards - I'm in the same category it seems, if you cant find anything file a bug report if you haven't already but good luck!! | 20:12 |
| xteejx | lol OK savvas cool mate I'll try all that at least 1 is bound to work :) | 20:12 |
| savvas | hope so! | 20:16 |
| xteejx | here goes.... ps thank you again!!!! | 20:18 |
| ogra | err, why didnt he just uninstall linux-restricted-modules ? | 20:19 |
| savvas | he couldn't boot to a live cd ogra :) | 20:20 |
| ogra | ah, right | 20:20 |
| savvas | one cup of coffee coming up! | 20:20 |
| ogra | well, he could used knoppix, chrooted into his install and uninstall it that way | 20:20 |
| ogra | or any other liveCD that doesnt use madwifi | 20:21 |
| ogra | or the hardy liveCD if that worked | 20:21 |
| savvas | if it is the wifi | 20:21 |
| savvas | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19196482/C%3A\Users\Teej\Desktop\DSC01194.JPG | 20:22 |
| ogra | well, the opps is ath_pci apparently | 20:22 |
| CarlFK1 | ogra: should I install linux-backports-modules? I have Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg - dmesg: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) | 20:31 |
| CarlFK1 | is there any reason I shuouldn't try it? | 20:34 |
| ogra | CarlFK, try it out ... its only an apt-get to remove it gain if it doesnt work | 20:34 |
| CarlFK1 | heh - E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules | 20:34 |
| CarlFK1 | intrepid-backports .... | 20:35 |
| ogra | if he would have stayed a minute longer i could have told him to look for linux-backports-modules-intrepid | 20:37 |
| ogra | if he would have stayed a minute longer i could have told him to look for linux-backports-modules-intrepid | 20:37 |
| ogra | :P | 20:37 |
| ogra | or linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic | 20:37 |
| CarlFK1 | got it | 20:39 |
| CarlFK1 | thanks | 20:39 |
| savvas | grr I just had a memory blackout, I forgot what I wanted to recommend! :P | 20:42 |
| CarlFK1 | ill be off for a few hours - if it has to do with me, tell CarlFK :) | 20:43 |
| CarlFK1 | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic - thanks all | 20:44 |
| asac | anyone wants to help a bit on NM or firefox New bug processing? | 20:52 |
| asac | :) | 20:52 |
| asac | i can write you python scripts for the most common cases :-P | 20:52 |
| savvas | er.. I have network manager bug :p | 20:52 |
| asac | savvas: triage 20 new bugs and i will look ;) | 20:53 |
| asac | :-P | 20:53 |
| asac | there are only 257 New bugs ;) | 20:53 |
| savvas | yoinks | 20:53 |
| asac | so i just need 10 folks processing 20 :) | 20:53 |
| savvas | I'll try and have a look right now :) | 20:54 |
| asac | firefox has 630 NEW ;) | 20:54 |
| savvas | no thanks haha | 20:54 |
| ogra | asac, what drives you to work on a sat. evening ? | 20:54 |
| savvas | you need minions for that :) | 20:54 |
| asac | ogra: bugpain | 20:54 |
| asac | ogra: i am trying to reach 20k ;) | 20:54 |
| ogra | poor guy | 20:54 |
| asac | ogra: i want to clear this mess in the next weeks | 20:55 |
| asac | and then officially resign | 20:55 |
| ogra | resign ?!? | 20:55 |
| asac | ogra: resign from bug processing ;) | 20:55 |
| ogra | ah | 20:55 |
| ogra | phew | 20:55 |
| ogra | you just shocked me | 20:56 |
| asac | i actually already resigned 3 month ago | 20:56 |
| asac | and now all is lost ;) | 20:56 |
| asac | or 6 month ago? | 20:56 |
| asac | i cant remember when i tried to seriously process bugs | 20:56 |
| asac | except the last 2 weeks | 20:56 |
| ogra | libflassupport ago :) | 20:56 |
| asac | ogra: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma.png ;) | 20:57 |
| ogra | geez | 20:57 |
| asac | ogra: those 5k is only hard bug work ... really :) | 20:57 |
| asac | but the bug count didnt change considerably | 20:57 |
| asac | i think i got ffox down from 1500 to 1200 open bugs ;) ... and NM from 600+ to 450 | 20:58 |
| ogra | still a lot | 20:58 |
| asac | 21:57 < asac> but the bug count didnt change considerably | 20:58 |
| asac | ^^ | 20:58 |
| asac | ;) | 20:58 |
| asac | thats why i will resign ;) | 20:59 |
| asac | QA should do that | 20:59 |
| asac | only look at triaged bugs | 20:59 |
| asac | that would be a joy | 20:59 |
| asac | ogra: the point is that launchpad is completely unusable for packages with more than lets say 500+ bugs | 21:00 |
| ogra | yeah | 21:00 |
| asac | ogra: you wont find duplicates even though you know exactly that you read more than one buga bout that | 21:00 |
| ogra | is bugzilla better for that ? | 21:01 |
| asac | ogra: well. it allows you to categorize bugs by component | 21:01 |
| asac | so when you know where to search you will find it | 21:02 |
| asac | also most components still have a comprehensible bug list | 21:02 |
| asac | (event though they might be 500+ each) | 21:02 |
| asac | and you can search full text on everything | 21:02 |
| asac | and assemble your own boolean searches | 21:02 |
| asac | so yeah | 21:02 |
| asac | i think so | 21:02 |
| ogra | hrm | 21:02 |
| asac | i think i would need to split up firefox in modules | 21:03 |
| asac | and reassign them so each component has a tiny bug list | 21:03 |
| asac | thats why gnome works so much better | 21:03 |
| asac | except than a few big bug packages | 21:03 |
| ogra | yup | 21:03 |
| asac | its easy to move bugs to the right package and there you will easily see dupes | 21:03 |
| ogra | yeah, gpm is one | 21:03 |
| asac | and also those crashes | 21:03 |
| asac | i cannot even search for "-apport-crash" tag | 21:04 |
| asac | that would allow me to just ignore them ;) | 21:04 |
| asac | ogra: i think gpm is similar to NM ... lots of bugs from unqualified reporters that have no clue what their bug is and post to whatever they think is their bug | 21:05 |
| asac | making it impossible to evaluate anything | 21:05 |
| ogra | yep | 21:05 |
| asac | you ask a question ... 2 days later you get an answer from someone completely unrelated ... then you forget to look whether he is the original reporter | 21:05 |
| asac | and the bug drifts away | 21:05 |
| ogra | i'm really happy i got rid of it | 21:05 |
| ogra | same with gss | 21:06 |
| ogra | you get all the x bugs | 21:06 |
| asac | ogra: but reassigning to other packages at least givse good karma ;) | 21:06 |
| ogra | heh, yeah | 21:06 |
| asac | i think there are currently 4 hot WPA enterprise issues floating in NM bug tracking ... and people cross post like hell ... initial reporters have different issues, but now its just one big mess | 21:07 |
| ogra | bah | 21:07 |
| asac | whenever you close a bug someone says, no this isnt fixed ... i still see my problem | 21:07 |
| asac | "what is your problem?" | 21:08 |
| asac | "yeah THIS!" | 21:08 |
| asac | "THIS isnt related, open a new bug" | 21:08 |
| ogra | sigh | 21:08 |
| asac | "NO THIS is related, otherwise not so many others would post here" | 21:08 |
| asac | ... "I see the same too, NM doesnt work anymore" | 21:09 |
| asac | or | 21:10 |
| asac | "can you please provide a), b), c)" | 21:10 |
| asac | -> "I already said that my wireless is not working, this worked well in dapper" | 21:10 |
| ogra | heh | 21:10 |
| * savvas hides :p | 21:11 | |
| ogra | have you seen bug 290918 ? | 21:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290918 in bash "user's 'bin' PATH isn't exported" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290918 | 21:12 |
| savvas | I wonder if I should open a new bug about network manager not showing the icon in notification area.. it doesn't create any problems, well except from editing connections | 21:13 |
| asac | ogra: well. at least he is more a technical guy | 21:14 |
| asac | but yeah ;) | 21:14 |
| asac | ok off for some relaxing | 21:15 |
| * ogra goes cooking | 21:15 | |
| savvas | asac: did you come accross any bugs with "No internet connections defined" when nm-applet is run and no icon? | 21:16 |
| maco | asac: jeez, sounds like you're describing sound bugs | 21:18 |
| maco | asac: crimsun posted a sort of "everybody out of the pool" comment to one the other day because it had turned into a "something doesn't work with sound" listing every possible symptom from 50 different people bug | 21:19 |
| maco | he told them he would only respond to the reporter on that bug and that everyone else should file their own bugs | 21:20 |
| savvas | how do we poke developers to check fixes/workarounds? | 21:24 |
| savvas | Bug #283316: | 21:25 |
| savvas | This report is public | 21:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283316 in ubuntu-release-notes "opening /dev/scdN causes tray to be closed" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283316 | 21:25 |
| savvas | woops | 21:25 |
| savvas | thanks bot :p | 21:25 |
| rrittenhouse | Is it a common problem with Totem not converting %3F's in a URL to a '?' ? | 21:50 |
| xteejx | savvas: No luck, but will update bug report in a minute with all my findings from each of the 15 boot options results lol | 21:57 |
| savvas | xteejx: ogra suggested using knoppix to try and boot from it, they said it doesn't have madwifi drivers | 21:58 |
| savvas | or at least that's how I understoof it :p | 21:58 |
| savvas | *understood | 21:59 |
| xteejx | Oh right? To prove that its the madwifi drivers that are causing the problem? I don't plan to use Knoppi as a replacement for Ubuntu though, and surely I'll still have the same problem if I try to install Ubuntu? | 21:59 |
| savvas | no idea seriously, but you can install ubuntu from there | 22:05 |
| savvas | using chroot (no idea heh) | 22:05 |
| xteejx | ermmmm lol ok well i'm downloading knoppix now we'll see how it goes if my laptop doesn't blow up spontaneously lol :) | 22:09 |
| savvas | xteejx: what I'm afraid is that even if you manage to install it, you'll have to remove ubuntu's linux-restricted-modules package | 22:09 |
| savvas | (before booting in the installed kernel that is) | 22:09 |
| xteejx | shit won't that remove a lot of other drivers like nvidia drivers etc? | 22:09 |
| savvas | bingo :p | 22:10 |
| xteejx | excuse the language sorry am forgetting where i am :) | 22:10 |
| savvas | that is, i think so | 22:10 |
| xteejx | hmmmm not the greatest scenario... | 22:10 |
| savvas | if you manage to install ubuntu, the new DKMS the kernel uses can install the driver from nvidia-177-kernel-source | 22:11 |
| xteejx | is there any forum or something i can use as a reference for how to install ubuntu from chroot within knoppix? | 22:11 |
| xteejx | ermmmmm ok now your losing me savvas lol | 22:11 |
| savvas | I'm definitely not the person to ask about this :) | 22:12 |
| savvas | try at www.ubuntuforums.org or at http://answers.launchpad.net - maybe someone has attempted this | 22:12 |
| xteejx | lol its kool i appreciate the help as it is to be honest - more info on the bug report is normally a good thing right? | 22:12 |
| xteejx | I'll try that :) | 22:12 |
| savvas | oh, if you manage to boot from knoppix | 22:13 |
| savvas | post the reply of this command to the bug report: lspci -nnv | 22:13 |
| savvas | it will give extensive information about your pci devices | 22:13 |
| xteejx | 2 n's? | 22:14 |
| xteejx | will do i'm writing all this down anyway :P | 22:14 |
| savvas | yes :) | 22:16 |
| xteejx | I still got 30 mins on the Knoppix download anyway but will burn and try it then and stick it on the report, and the lspci -nnv thing with a bit of luck :) | 22:19 |
| xteejx | ogra: Bug 287244. I downloaded, burned and tried Knoppix as you suggested because of the Madwifi drivers, but it didn't work, I have updated the bug report to show this. | 23:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 | 23:20 |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| xteejx | savvas: If you're here...tried what you suggested on the report, still nothing :( | 23:45 |
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