| wgrant | How can one delete pages on help.u.c/community? I really don't think we need instructions for Beryl or AIGLX on Edgy any more. | 03:59 |
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| Burgundavia | wgrant: the drop down allows you to do it | 06:02 |
| wgrant | Burgundavia: Ah, right. It seems I'm unprivileged :( | 06:04 |
| Burgundavia | wgrant: page linky? | 06:14 |
| wgrant | Burgundavia: There's a whole set that probably needs to die, and there are others that have needed killing since Breezy. I'll find them. | 06:15 |
| wgrant | Everything related to Xgl is dead, for example. | 06:16 |
| wgrant | The AIGLX, Beryl and Xgl pages on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/blah should be dead. | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | is there a common page to redirect them to? | 06:19 |
| wgrant | Some of them already redirect to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion | 06:19 |
| Burgundavia | you can redirect the rest | 06:19 |
| wgrant | I really think they should cease to exist rather than redirect, but sure. | 06:20 |
| wgrant | They just pollute listings now. | 06:20 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 06:23 |
| wgrant | I see some pages are disappearing. | 06:23 |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 06:23 |
| wgrant | Burgundavia: Oh yeah, and some Automatix pages slipped in... there's nowhere sane to redirect them to. | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | ah giant page about automatix beingevil? | 06:42 |
| Flannel | heh, about *matix, since now we have "ultamatix" too. | 06:42 |
| wgrant | Shudder | 06:43 |
| wgrant | I thought Ultimate Edition would go away. | 06:43 |
| Flannel | wgrant: We all did | 06:43 |
| wgrant | But no, once it had Ubuntu removed from its name by Canonical it branched out into Ultamatix. | 06:43 |
| Flannel | Oh, wgrant, if you're doing cleanup, do you mind figuring out whats going on with the fonts page? Some guy moved it to w.u.c and made the h.u.c/comm page redirect. Sort of odd. I haven't had time to figure out how to contact him (no email, hasn't been on IRC for a while, etc) | 06:44 |
| Flannel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto | 06:44 |
| wgrant | Blink. | 06:45 |
| wgrant | Moved *to* w.u.c? | 06:45 |
| Flannel | yeah. odd. | 06:45 |
| wgrant | Ahh. I was wondering how one was meant to do cross-wiki redirects. | 06:46 |
| * Madpilot googles for ultamatix's homepage and feels braincells die from the badness of the English here. Oy. | 07:08 | |
| * Madpilot realizes his carefully tweaked XChat will not, in fact, LET him spell "the" as T E H, even for comic effect. Meh. | 07:08 | |
| wgrant | Madpilot: Do you like its home page? | 07:11 |
| wgrant | It is, IIRC, the one with all the silver gradients. | 07:11 |
| wgrant | And it's completely impossible to read, both because of the bad theme and because of the non-ENglish. | 07:11 |
| Madpilot | meant "there" when I said "here" in my line above, actually | 07:12 |
| wgrant | Maybe that was Ultimate Edition. | 07:12 |
| wgrant | But it's the same person. | 07:12 |
| Madpilot | http://ultamatix.com/ <-- this awfullness? | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | teh | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | teh | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | teh | 07:12 |
| wgrant | I was thinking of http://ultimateedition.info/ | 07:12 |
| wgrant | But they replaced the theme. | 07:12 |
| Burgundavia | so they make money off their ads I see | 07:13 |
| wgrant | "This release was built from scratch using Ubuntu Hardy Heron LTS" | 07:13 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, at some point I tweaked Xchat's autoreplace to correct "the". | 07:13 |
| wgrant | I see. | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: I was just being dumb | 07:13 |
| wgrant | Hmm, does ultamatix's website really just state that it's valid CSS and not HTML, or has my connection died? That is mildly amusing. | 07:17 |
| Burgundavia | wow,there is some seriously old cruft on my system | 07:42 |
| Burgundavia | something to do with dpkg-divert stuff in breezy | 07:42 |
| Madpilot | you back on your desktop, or is this laptop cruft? | 07:44 |
| Burgundavia | desktop | 07:45 |
| Burgundavia | using Audrey's wonderful huge screen | 07:45 |
| wgrant | Burgundavia: A couple of my systems got a good cleaning after their Intrepid upgrade; they'd come all the way from Warty. | 07:47 |
| wgrant | I was amazed at how much cruft there was. | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | I am trying to nuke fglrx | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | am getting an error looking for an so in X11R6 | 07:47 |
| wgrant | Hmm, I had fglrx leave that around on one of those. | 07:48 |
| Burgundavia | had to touch and create a bunch of dirs for it not to fail | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | very annoy9ing | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | anybody got a fresh intrepid system? | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | bkac in a falsh, rebooting to see if this takes | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | if it doesn',t I won't be back for a bit as I fix my X | 07:51 |
| Madpilot | I did a clean install for Hardy, was amazed at how much cruft from Breezy onward had accumulated in the old install... | 08:13 |
| wgrant | It's particularly fun with my laptop, because I always run the development series from a couple of weeks in and do other really nasty things to my system. | 08:31 |
| wgrant | After a couple of releases it becomes rather bad. | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | I guess I should upgrade to intrepid | 08:41 |
| wgrant | Burgundavia: It'll be a bit slow. | 08:42 |
| wgrant | I'll upgrade to jaunty next weekend. | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | it probably will be | 08:44 |
| wgrant | a.u.c is absolutely hammered. | 08:44 |
| wgrant | It seems to be so hammered that it can't even properly sync from the internal mirrors. | 08:45 |
| Burgundavia | 610 kb/s? | 08:45 |
| wgrant | Really? | 08:46 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 08:46 |
| wgrant | It was hard to connect to 12 hours ago. | 08:46 |
| Burgundavia | I am maxing out my connection | 08:46 |
| wgrant | Using some mirror, then? | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | I have no idea | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | likely not, given .ca redirects to a.u.c | 08:47 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 08:47 |
| Burgundavia | still getting 610ish | 09:09 |
| mdke | wgrant: in future if no one happens to be around, the way to mark a page for deletion is described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag | 09:10 |
| mdke | wgrant: it's not open to everyone to delet pages because of issues with breaking links, described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/DeletingAndRenaming | 09:11 |
| wgrant | mdke: Thanks. Of course, it shouldn't be open to everybody, but it's probably a bit more restricted than it needs to be... | 09:13 |
| * Burgundavia realized he forgot to check one or two of those pages... | 09:14 | |
| mdke | wgrant: what's your alternative idea? | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | when was compiz enabled by default for the first time? | 09:18 |
| mdke | I can't remember | 09:18 |
| mdke | maybe 7.10 or so? | 09:18 |
| wgrant | I think it was Gutsy. | 09:19 |
| wgrant | It's possible it was Feisty. | 09:19 |
| wgrant | mdke: I'm not sure what a better solution for the deletion privilege is... but it seems a bit odd that not even ~ubuntu-dev has it. | 09:20 |
| Burgundavia | 7.04 according to DesktopEffects | 09:21 |
| wgrant | compiz was in main for Feisty. | 09:21 |
| wgrant | So I presume feisty. | 09:21 |
| mdke | wgrant: well, there is no reason for the people in ~ubuntu-dev to know anything about how the documentation wiki works | 09:21 |
| wgrant | Ah, beat me. | 09:21 |
| wgrant | mdke: I fail to see how there's anything special to know, and I see the restriction as more of a defense against people being malicious or stupid. | 09:22 |
| mdke | wgrant: it's described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/DeletingAndRenaming. You don't have to be malicious *or* stupid to forget to check for broken links (see Burgundavia above) | 09:23 |
| mdke | :p @ Burgundavia | 09:23 |
| wgrant | Perhaps. | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | idiocy is all you need ;) | 09:24 |
| mdke | or just not having read that page for a while | 09:24 |
| mdke | or ever, in the case of most members of ~ubuntu-dev | 09:24 |
| wgrant | Heh. | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | what does KDE use for desktop effects? | 09:25 |
| Burgundavia | kwin or compiz? | 09:25 |
| wgrant | kwin | 09:25 |
| Burgundavia | ahh, right | 09:25 |
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| Burgundavia | wgrant: redirect GNOME/customize to UbuntuEyeCandy? | 09:28 |
| wgrant | I trimmed some stuff out of the latter this afternoon. | 09:29 |
| wgrant | Let me see. | 09:29 |
| wgrant | I'd say so. | 09:30 |
| wgrant | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gnome/FAQ is very worthy. | 09:30 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 09:34 |
| Burgundavia | that needs to die | 09:34 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 09:35 |
| wgrant | You know that a wiki page is bad when it mentions XF86Config-4 | 09:35 |
| Burgundavia | heh | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | welcome to the 21st century please | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I need to sleep | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | night all | 09:36 |
| wgrant | Night Burgundavia. | 09:37 |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 09:37 |
| Burgundavia | if you want anything else deleted, pm me with the url | 09:37 |
| Burgundavia | I will be online while the system upgrades | 09:37 |
| mdke | night Burgundavia | 09:41 |
| Burgundavia | ugh, intrepid's ephy performance is worse than hardys | 11:19 |
| LjL | how can i see a list of wiki pages i edited or created? | 14:02 |
| moteyibex | I wondered how to report a bad link in a man page. I.E. sed documentation man:sed has a bad link. | 16:01 |
| mdke | LjL: it can't be done, afaik | 20:25 |
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