| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| pururu | so anyone know how to enable card reader on acer aspire one ? | 01:01 |
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| ian_brasil | pururu: the right hand side does not work..the left works | 01:18 |
| ian_brasil | at least for me | 01:18 |
| ian_brasil | no..i don't know why | 01:18 |
| ian_brasil | are you seeing the same thing? | 01:19 |
| pururu | dunno... i think they both dosnt work... and i dont need left one | 01:24 |
| pururu | i want to backup something and make fresh install from release image | 01:25 |
| ian_brasil | back up to a pen drine? | 01:28 |
| ian_brasil | s/drine/drive | 01:29 |
| * pururu goes to shop to buy one more usb stick. why i got this SD card lol. i cant boot from it, and cant write to it... | 01:30 | |
| ian_brasil | ha ha | 01:40 |
| ian_brasil | pururu: what happens when you put the caard in ..nothing? | 01:40 |
| pururu | exactly | 01:41 |
| ian_brasil | maybe you need to mount it? | 01:41 |
| pururu | it dosnt show in fdisk -l too | 01:42 |
| pururu | [ 5249.232063] mmc0: new SD card at address 1234 | 01:44 |
| pururu | [ 5249.234652] mmcblk0: mmc0:1234 SA01G 995328KiB | 01:44 |
| pururu | but i see this in dmesg | 01:44 |
| pururu | mmm | 01:45 |
| pururu | this is for right side slot | 01:45 |
| pururu | mmm | 01:50 |
| * pururu calling for linux hackers to save a world | 01:50 | |
| rbelem | pururu, nice! your sd card is working | 01:53 |
| pururu | woohoo | 01:53 |
| rbelem | pururu, sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 | 01:53 |
| pururu | yeah it show something | 01:53 |
| rbelem | pururu, paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 01:55 |
| pururu | ok i created partition with gparted and mounted it, it work | 01:58 |
| pururu | still need to paste this? | 01:58 |
| rbelem | cool! | 01:58 |
| rbelem | nope | 01:58 |
| pururu | thanks for your help | 01:58 |
| rbelem | you're welcome ;-) | 01:59 |
| pururu | ;-) | 01:59 |
| pururu | but i'm not sure this will work on fresh ubuntu... cuz i made few changes to enable card reader... as described on ubuntu aspire one site | 02:01 |
| pururu | like setpci one time yesterday... and writing something to fstab | 02:01 |
| pururu | i just not seen any result | 02:02 |
| rbelem | pururu, i guess you will not need to make these changes | 02:03 |
| pururu | it seems so | 02:03 |
| ian_brasil | how can i add a password protected bluetooth device with the new bluetooth manager | 03:03 |
| ian_brasil | putz...https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-gnome/+bug/284994 | 03:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284994 in bluez-gnome "bluetooth-wizard unable to pair headset" [Undecided,New] | 03:37 |
| * ian_brasil clicks the nice new affects me button | 03:39 | |
| crevette | hello there | 10:19 |
| persia | Good morning crevette | 10:33 |
| crevette | hello persia | 10:38 |
| crevette | good evening (?) persia | 10:39 |
| persia | Yeah, it's evening here :) | 10:39 |
| * ogra yawns | 10:59 | |
| * ogra wonders why -mid changes tty's on each restart of X | 11:11 | |
| * persia suspects an openvt race | 11:11 | |
| ogra | its weird | 11:12 |
| ogra | initially its on tty1 | 11:12 |
| ogra | after the first restart its on 7 | 11:12 |
| ogra | after the second its on 9 | 11:12 |
| ogra | and then it jumps between 7 and 9 with each restart | 11:12 |
| persia | It takes the first available VT. | 11:13 |
| persia | It starts before getty, so gets tty1 when it starts. | 11:14 |
| persia | Then, when restarting, it starts before it finishes, so takes tty7. | 11:14 |
| ogra | hmm, no gconf dbon mid ? | 11:14 |
| * ogra thought he could pull the icon theme name from some gconf key | 11:14 | |
| persia | When it really finishes, getty takes over tty1, so the next time, it needs a different one. | 11:15 |
| persia | tty8 is taken by usplash, so it gets 9. | 11:15 |
| persia | then back to 7 because 7 is free from the previous X death, etc. | 11:15 |
| persia | There should be a gconf db | 11:15 |
| ogra | usplas shuld have called /etc/init.d/usplash start to free it up at the end of booting | 11:15 |
| persia | tty8? | 11:16 |
| persia | That's where the console log goes. Unredirecting that means either not showing it, or redirecting somewhere else. | 11:17 |
| ogra | # Clear VT 8 of any console messages | 11:17 |
| ogra | clear >/dev/tty8 | 11:17 |
| ogra | # ask usplash to go away | 11:17 |
| ogra | usplash_write QUIT | 11:17 |
| ogra | thats from the usplash_quit function | 11:17 |
| ogra | which is called by /etc/init.d/usplash start | 11:17 |
| ogra | it does more stuff like actually killing leftover usplash processes and switch to vt1 | 11:18 |
| persia | hunh. Where does /dev/console point after that? | 11:18 |
| ogra | tty1 i think | 11:18 |
| persia | Maybe that doesn't work because X has tty1? | 11:19 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:19 |
| ogra | which is not usual | 11:19 |
| ogra | anyway, the missing gconf db is more weird than the tty jumping | 11:19 |
| ogra | i ony have toplevel dirs in gconf editor | 11:20 |
| ogra | but not a singe key | 11:20 |
| ogra | *single | 11:20 |
| persia | That's very odd, because kourou uses gconf to determine the current category. | 11:21 |
| ogra | gconf ? | 11:21 |
| ogra | no | 11:21 |
| ogra | it uses xdg | 11:22 |
| ogra | and the theme is hardcoded | 11:22 |
| ogra | so there is no dependency at all on gconf ... i was about to add one :) | 11:23 |
| ogra | thats why i looked in gconf-editor | 11:23 |
| ogra | err | 11:23 |
| ogra | ignore me | 11:23 |
| ogra | the theme in gconf-editor is weird ... it doesnt show the little expander arrows and my doublecliks on the folders were not strong enough | 11:24 |
| ogra | there we go ... /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme | 11:25 |
| ogra | that should be the last bit of icon theme things we need ... | 11:26 |
| * ogra fixed rendering completely already and we have a fallback to the gtk-missing icon if no icon is found now | 11:27 | |
| ogra | switching from gtk.Iconview to gtk.Table might be harder though | 11:28 |
| ogra | does it make sense to have a context menu in kourou ? | 11:29 |
| ogra | i.e. do many target devices of -mid ave the ability to right click ? | 11:31 |
| persia | My tablet has right click. Also, most touch devices support right-click by long-touch. The Zaurus uses that for context. | 11:45 |
| persia | Personally, I think it'd be cool if the context menu could include a means of adjusting Home, either by adding or removing icons. | 11:45 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:46 |
| ogra | i thought of adjusting home, changing background and opening the theme capplet | 11:46 |
| ogra | later probably a "create launcher" | 11:46 |
| ogra | great, icon theme from gconf works | 11:56 |
| * ogra pushes to his dev branch | 12:00 | |
| * ogra scratches head about a redraw function ... i'm getting tired of restarting X somehow | 12:01 | |
| persia | Perhaps a reload function? | 12:07 |
| ogra | yeah, thats what i meant | 12:08 |
| persia | Just implement it as a quit function for the plugin, and make sure hildon-desktop can be given a restart hint in the .desktop file. | 12:08 |
| ogra | but externally triggerable | 12:08 |
| persia | Why would you want it externally triggerable? | 12:09 |
| ogra | because i could write external tools like a kourou-icon-theme-selector ... that wouldnt have to sit in the app itself (but be called from context menu) and after an icon change it can trigger a reload | 12:11 |
| ogra | same for a wallpaper selector | 12:11 |
| persia | Don't do that in kourou | 12:11 |
| ogra | both are things you dont need permanently in ram | 12:11 |
| persia | Get hildon-desktop to accept external triggers that restart a given plugin. | 12:11 |
| persia | That's generally resuable for everything. | 12:12 |
| ogra | might exist already | 12:12 |
| ogra | hmm, apparently not | 12:13 |
| ogra | all references google knows point to restart hildon-desktop completely | 12:14 |
| ogra | "or restart your device" | 12:14 |
| ogra | woah | 12:14 |
| persia | Right : implementing something like that in hildon-desktop would be a big help generally. | 12:15 |
| persia | It's not just for reload, but having a way to be able to kill a stuck app. | 12:15 |
| ogra | but i'm currently not in C mood | 12:15 |
| ogra | so i'll look at other kourou stuff first | 12:16 |
| ogra | switching iconview to table will be big :/ | 12:17 |
| ogra | but i'D love to play with wallpaper things :( | 12:17 |
| ogra | gah | 12:33 |
| ogra | gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale() isnt ported to pygtk | 12:33 |
| ogra | grmbl | 12:33 |
| crevette | ogra: you just need to port it :) | 12:44 |
| ogra | crevette, as i said above, not in C mood today :) | 12:44 |
| * crevette doesn't understand c :) | 12:45 | |
| * ogra does but wants to play python ... its weekend, so what i do is for having fun ;) | 12:46 | |
| crevette | actually I'm fighting with a patch I want to achieve, and which me make crazy because of warning during compilation :) | 12:49 |
| crevette | I wonder why the project I'm interested with are in C | 12:49 |
| crevette | projects | 12:49 |
| root | hello guys | 14:08 |
| === root is now known as Guest95875 | ||
| === Guest95875 is now known as ido- | ||
| ido- | was wondering whats the difference between MID and mobile versions | 14:10 |
| ido- | which should i choose for my samsung Q1 | 14:14 |
| persia | ido-, I'd recommend the UMPC image for your samsung Q1 : it's had a fair bit of testing on that platform, and works fairly well. | 14:31 |
| persia | MID is for smaller things, like the Aigo MID, Sharp D4, etc. | 14:31 |
| ido- | thanks | 15:57 |
| ido- | downloaded it | 15:57 |
| ido- | tryin to getit to boot | 15:58 |
| ido- | downloaded the latest build of umpc from yesterday | 16:37 |
| ido- | tried to boot it on my Q1 | 16:37 |
| ido- | and it stops at initramfs | 16:37 |
| ido- | no error | 16:37 |
| ido- | hrm. | 16:50 |
| persia | Q1 or Q1U? | 16:54 |
| ido- | Q1U | 16:58 |
| ido- | should i use an older build | 16:58 |
| ido- | or is it not supposedto wokr | 16:59 |
| ido- | persia ? | 17:01 |
| persia | No, it's supposed to work. I've heard from a couple Q1U owners that it worked. | 17:02 |
| ido- | hrm. | 17:02 |
| ido- | so i'll download an older build | 17:02 |
| persia | Where does it get stuck? | 17:02 |
| ido- | which do you recommend ? | 17:02 |
| persia | No, you want the released build. | 17:02 |
| ido- | well, it starts showing the ubuntu loading bar thingy | 17:02 |
| persia | Does it get about 15-20% along? | 17:03 |
| ido- | and then stops, and goes into busybox/initramfs prompt | 17:03 |
| persia | That's rather unexpected. | 17:03 |
| persia | Anyone else around have a Q1U? | 17:03 |
| ido- | seems no one is here | 17:05 |
| persia | Or at least nobody paying attention right now. | 17:06 |
| persia | THis is repeatable? | 17:06 |
| ido- | or that. | 17:06 |
| ido- | every time I try to boot..? | 17:06 |
| persia | That sounds repeatable. | 17:06 |
| persia | Which image did you download? | 17:07 |
| ido- | sec | 17:07 |
| ido- | ubuntu-umpc.img | 17:08 |
| ido- | cant find the exact link since ubuntu is down | 17:09 |
| persia | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-umpc/intrepid/current/ubuntu-umpc.img ? | 17:09 |
| ido- | well, at least the cd-download server | 17:09 |
| ido- | yes | 17:09 |
| ido- | actually, the build from the 10/30 | 17:09 |
| persia | Hrm. That's the recommended image : I wouldn't expect any other to work better. | 17:09 |
| ido- | i used dd for windows | 17:10 |
| ido- | to put it on the a usb stick | 17:10 |
| persia | That should work. | 17:10 |
| ido- | with bs=1024 | 17:10 |
| ido- | it did boot anyhow. | 17:11 |
| ido- | i'll boot it in a minute | 17:11 |
| ido- | and i'll dmesg | 17:11 |
| ido- | see what errors it shows | 17:11 |
| persia | Sounds like a good plan. | 17:11 |
| ido- | question | 17:18 |
| ido- | can i make it boot without the ubuntu bar ? | 17:18 |
| ido- | so i could see progress on the console | 17:18 |
| ido- | hrm | 17:19 |
| ido- | weird | 17:19 |
| ido- | re-written the image with bs=512 | 17:19 |
| ido- | and now it loaded... | 17:19 |
| persia | 1024 is the usually recommendation, but I'm glad to hear 512 worked for you. | 17:23 |
| persia | To boot without splash, use "nosplash" as a boot argument, but if it boots perhaps you don't need that. | 17:24 |
| ido- | yes | 17:24 |
| ido- | indeed | 17:24 |
| ido- | how do i calibrate the screen | 17:24 |
| persia | I think it's system...Administration...Calibrate Screen | 17:25 |
| ido- | doesnt work | 17:26 |
| persia | ogra, Any advice? | 17:26 |
| ido- | says "no evtouch capablee device found" | 17:26 |
| persia | That's very confusing for the Q1U, because the guy who put together the calibration tool has one. | 17:27 |
| ido- | hrm. who is he ? | 17:28 |
| ido- | persia ? | 17:55 |
| ogra | persia, the recommended image isnt a daily build but the released one :P | 18:40 |
| persia | ogra, Isn't that the release build for umpc? | 18:41 |
| ogra | see topic ;) | 18:41 |
| ogra | i think there was a 30.1 or .2 build | 18:41 |
| persia | It went to releases! I thought it was only going to cdimage. | 18:41 |
| ogra | because the livefs was borked in the pre last one | 18:41 |
| * ogra hands persia a pair of glasses :) | 18:42 | |
| persia | Which might explain ido- 's calibration issues. | 18:42 |
| ogra | -mid is on releases, -umpc is on cdimage | 18:43 |
| ogra | but nontheless both had released images with proper naming etc | 18:43 |
| * persia confusedly re-reads the URL, and is again confused, but will learn | 18:43 | |
| ogra | yeah i'm not happy either | 18:44 |
| persia | I'm not unhappy, just confused. | 18:45 |
| ogra | 30.1 was the last daily build ... terranova had a hiccup on the 30 image | 18:45 |
| ogra | well, i would have liked both in the same place | 18:46 |
| persia | Oh, yeah, it would be nice if the ultimate intrepid daily build was also the release build, but that's just an implementation detail. | 18:47 |
| persia | My fault mostly, for not raising it to the release team early enough. | 18:47 |
| ogra | ?? | 18:47 |
| ogra | the ultimate one is the released one | 18:47 |
| ogra | for upc that was 30.1, for mid that was 29 | 18:48 |
| persia | So http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-umpc/intrepid/current/ubuntu-umpc.img == http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img ? | 18:48 |
| ogra | right, current was copied over to ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img | 18:49 |
| ogra | but not 20081030 | 18:49 |
| persia | Then what do you mean " i would have liked both in the same place" ? | 18:49 |
| persia | MID + UMPC? | 18:49 |
| ogra | yes | 18:49 |
| persia | RIght. My fault. | 18:49 |
| ogra | its tricky to get that across | 18:49 |
| ogra | nope | 18:49 |
| ogra | thats been part of the renaming | 18:50 |
| ogra | not yours | 18:50 |
| persia | Yeah, but I'm the person who integrated the images with the milestone series and missed a step in doing so, which is why the rename came so late. | 18:50 |
| ogra | mid is "official", umpc isnt | 18:50 |
| persia | Yep. | 18:51 |
| persia | umpc will be official next time : all the prerequisites are in place. | 18:51 |
| ogra | right, i'll write a spec for presseding umpc to be netbook tomorrow ... lets see if we get gfxboot working with syslinux ;) | 18:52 |
| persia | huh? | 18:52 |
| ogra | that way it would be possible to have all three flavours in a single image, build lpia and generic and have a selection menu like the cd | 18:53 |
| persia | Why would you want to do that? | 18:53 |
| persia | Ah. Interesting. Is the netbook team planning to go for flavour status then? | 18:53 |
| ogra | no, but i'm supposed to do something with the four apps | 18:54 |
| ogra | so ubuntu-umpc-default-settings will get a preseed value to switch flavours | 18:54 |
| ido- | hrm | 19:10 |
| ido- | back | 19:10 |
| ido- | orga/persia | 19:10 |
| ido- | another problem, non-related | 19:10 |
| ido- | i can't seem to get the install to work correctly | 19:10 |
| ido- | first, it doesnt always run (runs only after trying to run it multiple times) | 19:11 |
| ido- | and even when it does, it fails somewhere at the stage when its trying to repartition my HD | 19:11 |
| ogra | weird | 19:12 |
| ogra | it definately installs fine here | 19:12 |
| ido- | could i make it persistant storage without the need to install it somewhere ? | 19:12 |
| ogra | on identical HW (unless theere are different Q1U configurations, which i dont belive) | 19:13 |
| persia | ido-, You could, but performance suffers : better to chase the install. | 19:13 |
| ogra | i think casper in intrepid had no proper support for persistance | 19:13 |
| ogra | unless that was fixed last minute | 19:13 |
| persia | I thought that was fixed at the end, although I could be mistaken. | 19:13 |
| ogra | but afak the patch was considered o big for the late release state | 19:14 |
| ido- | so how do i make it persistant directly ? | 19:14 |
| * ogra repeats ... "i think casper in intrepid had no proper support for persistance" | 19:15 | |
| ido- | whats casper? | 19:15 |
| ogra | the tool providing persistance ... and the liveCD bootmechanism used on the image | 19:16 |
| ido- | oh | 19:16 |
| ido- | orga | 19:19 |
| ido- | did you resize the partition using the installer ? | 19:19 |
| ogra | no | 19:19 |
| ido- | hrm that could be the thing causing it to fail | 19:19 |
| ogra | what kind of partition is that ? | 19:20 |
| ido- | ntfs ? | 19:20 |
| ido- | the one that comeswith the device. | 19:20 |
| ogra | might need something like a defrag run before and removal of the windows swapfile before you can even resize it | 19:20 |
| ido- | hrm. getting the error: An error occurred while writing the changes to storage device" | 19:20 |
| ido- | does gpart do that ? | 19:21 |
| ido- | gparted | 19:21 |
| ogra | windows usues to put the swapfile at the end of a partition which might cause resizing to fail | 19:21 |
| ogra | no idea what gparted does, we dont sue it since years in ubuntu, partman (teh tool the installer backend uses) doesn usually a safer and more effective job | 19:21 |
| ogra | *use | 19:22 |
| ido- | seems the ntfs partition was unclean | 19:27 |
| ido- | so it couldnt shrink it | 19:27 |
| ogra | right | 19:28 |
| ogra | clean it under windows first | 19:28 |
| ido- | thats what i'm doing | 19:28 |
| ogra | do a defrag and disable the swapfile ... | 19:28 |
| ogra | you can re-enable it after the shrinking | 19:28 |
| ido- | how did you calibrate your screen orga? | 19:29 |
| ogra | using te calibration tool | 19:29 |
| ido- | which one ? | 19:30 |
| ogra | thats why i wrote it :) | 19:30 |
| ogra | the one from the system menu | 19:30 |
| ido- | oh. | 19:30 |
| ido- | it didnt detect a touchscreen device on mine.. | 19:30 |
| ido- | (although the touchscreen worked ok..) | 19:30 |
| ido- | and Xorg.log showed evtouch loaded | 19:30 |
| ogra | works fine here ... just tested it this second | 19:31 |
| ogra | and if you have the same device i dont see a reason why it shouldnt work | 19:32 |
| ido- | hrm. | 19:32 |
| ogra | lshal|grep eGalax | 19:32 |
| ogra | does that return anything ? | 19:32 |
| ido- | lspci shows eGalax | 19:32 |
| ido- | i think lshal does so to.. | 19:32 |
| ogra | hal cares for the device nowadays | 19:33 |
| ogra | check it, it should return two lines | 19:33 |
| ido- | sec, rebooting into ubuntu after disk cleanup.. | 19:33 |
| ido- | how much space should i allocate for ubuntu ? | 19:33 |
| ido- | would 3gb be fine for starters ? | 19:33 |
| ido- | its just for testing.. | 19:34 |
| ido- | to set how well it works on the umpc | 19:34 |
| ogra | the current install uses about 2.5G | 19:34 |
| ogra | so for testing 3G plus swap | 19:34 |
| ido- | really ? | 19:34 |
| ido- | oh. o | 19:34 |
| ido- | ok | 19:34 |
| ogra | that leaves you 500M for user data | 19:35 |
| ido- | thats not much. | 19:35 |
| ogra | well, give it more then :) | 19:35 |
| ido- | just got it booted | 19:35 |
| ido- | takes a while to boot.. | 19:35 |
| ogra | sure, its a live session | 19:35 |
| ido- | running calibration | 19:35 |
| ido- | nope, says no evtouch capable device found | 19:36 |
| ogra | but your touchsceen works ? | 19:36 |
| ido- | yes | 19:36 |
| ogra | what does the lshal command give you ? | 19:36 |
| ido- | lshal has eGalax | 19:36 |
| ogra | two times ? | 19:36 |
| ido- | yhep, info.product | 19:36 |
| ido- | and usb_device.product | 19:36 |
| ogra | i wonder if they have eGalax that are named differently somehow | 19:36 |
| ido- | eGalax "TouchScreen" | 19:37 |
| ido- | "eGalax ouchScreen" | 19:37 |
| ogra | <match key="info.product" contains="eGalax"> | 19:37 |
| ogra | <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input"> | 19:37 |
| ogra | thats what hal looks for in the device entry in lshal | 19:38 |
| ogra | and it works fine here in live mode as well as in installed mode | 19:38 |
| ogra | just tested both again | 19:38 |
| ido- | whats info.capabilities ? | 19:38 |
| ogra | a hal key | 19:39 |
| ido- | i dont see it under the touchscreen udi | 19:39 |
| ogra | lshal|less | 19:39 |
| ido- | did that | 19:39 |
| ido- | and ? | 19:40 |
| ogra | err, wait | 19:40 |
| ido- | hrm ok. | 19:40 |
| ogra | the Q1U has a Touchkit | 19:40 |
| ido- | yes | 19:41 |
| ogra | look for: lshal|grep Touchkit | 19:41 |
| ido- | Touchkit HID-USB Touchscreen | 19:41 |
| ogra | <match key="info.product" contains="Touchkit Touch"> | 19:41 |
| ogra | <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input"> | 19:41 |
| ogra | same thing | 19:42 |
| ido- | where do you se that config thingy ? | 19:42 |
| ido- | is it part of the calibration util ? | 19:42 |
| ogra | info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse'} (string list) | 19:42 |
| ogra | info.category = 'input' (string) | 19:42 |
| ogra | info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_eef_1_noserial_if0' (string) | 19:42 |
| ogra | info.product = 'Touchkit Touch' (string) | 19:42 |
| ogra | in lshal | 19:42 |
| ogra | lshal|less | 19:43 |
| ogra | you should actually have it identical | 19:43 |
| ido- | well, almost | 19:43 |
| ido- | the info.product is different | 19:43 |
| ogra | oh | 19:43 |
| ido- | its "Touchkit HID-USB Touchscreen" | 19:43 |
| ogra | thats the prob then | 19:44 |
| ido- | not contains "touchkit touch" | 19:44 |
| ogra | you can edit /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/50-touchkit.fdi | 19:44 |
| ido- | where did you see '<match key="info.product" contains="Touchkit Touch">" | 19:44 |
| ogra | after install though | 19:44 |
| ido- | sure i can | 19:44 |
| ogra | and i'll see if i can shove that in as bugfix | 19:44 |
| ogra | the match is in the .fdi file above | 19:45 |
| ido- | edited it | 19:45 |
| ido- | left only "Touchkit" | 19:45 |
| ido- | what now ? | 19:45 |
| ogra | just make it match Touchkit without Touch | 19:45 |
| ogra | well, it wont work easily on the livesystem | 19:45 |
| ido- | can i restart the hal thingy ? | 19:45 |
| ido- | oh, only after reboot.. | 19:45 |
| ogra | you essentially need to stop X, restart hal and start X again | 19:45 |
| ido- | how do i restart hal ? | 19:46 |
| ogra | sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart | 19:46 |
| ido- | hrm.is the calibration util source public ? | 19:47 |
| ogra | apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-evtouch | 19:47 |
| ogra | but it will go away in jaunty | 19:47 |
| ido- | go away ? | 19:48 |
| ogra | upstream xorg is working on making all touchscreen devies use the evdev driver and we'll have a generic calibration tool that should match more than evtouch | 19:48 |
| ido- | oh | 19:48 |
| ido- | ok | 19:48 |
| ogra | so the current tol is only an interim solution | 19:48 |
| ogra | *tool | 19:49 |
| ogra | i just wrote it to have anything at all | 19:49 |
| ido- | hrm | 19:49 |
| ido- | restarted hal | 19:49 |
| ido- | and X | 19:49 |
| ogra | since evtouch is abandoned by its dev since years and the calibration tool never worked | 19:49 |
| ido- | and it still didnt work | 19:49 |
| ogra | hal-find-by-property --key input.x11_driver --string evtouch | 19:50 |
| ogra | does that return anything ? | 19:50 |
| ido- | nope | 19:50 |
| ogra | well, then you dont use evtouch | 19:51 |
| ogra | your /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/50-touchkit.fdi was changed to: <match key="info.product" contains="Touchkit"> | 19:51 |
| ogra | ? | 19:51 |
| ido- | yes | 19:51 |
| ogra | well, i see no reason why it shouldnt work then | 19:52 |
| ido- | Xorg.log shows /dev/input/event4 as "Touchkit HID-USB Touchscreen" | 19:53 |
| ido- | orga ? | 19:56 |
| ido- | Xorg.log shows /dev/input/event4 as "Touchkit HID-USB Touchscreen" | 19:56 |
| ido- | after all the touchscreen does work. | 19:56 |
| ogra | but its not using evtouch | 19:58 |
| ido- | hrm. so what is it using ? | 19:58 |
| ogra | so the evtouch calibtation tool cant work | 19:58 |
| ido- | and should i make it use evtouch ? | 19:58 |
| ogra | what does Xorg.log say what it uses ? | 19:59 |
| ido- | what should i look for? | 19:59 |
| ogra | (II) config/hal: Adding input device Touchkit Touch | 20:00 |
| ogra | (II) LoadModule: "evtouch" | 20:00 |
| ogra | should be loaded right after the keyboard | 20:00 |
| ogra | but if it works for you anyway, why change it | 20:00 |
| ogra | i just wonder why hal doesnt matc it at all | 20:00 |
| ogra | since it should | 20:00 |
| ido- | no, doesnt say that | 20:00 |
| ido- | i dont mind keeping it this way | 20:01 |
| ogra | well, then hal didnt load it | 20:01 |
| ido- | but the screen is uncalibrated | 20:01 |
| ido- | and i have no idea how to do it | 20:01 |
| ogra | well, the change in the match line should have helped | 20:01 |
| ogra | try it on the installed system later | 20:01 |
| ido- | i did that | 20:01 |
| ido- | oh | 20:01 |
| ido- | yea, well didnt do that.. | 20:01 |
| ido- | will install now | 20:02 |
| ido- | see how it helps | 20:02 |
| ogra | good luck | 20:02 |
| ido- | sure.. thanks. | 20:02 |
| ido- | will be back later to report | 20:02 |
| ogra | i might not be around though | 20:02 |
| ido- | do you usally hang out here | 20:03 |
| ogra | its saturday ... and evening | 20:03 |
| ogra | yes | 20:03 |
| ogra | every day during the week | 20:03 |
| ido- | so i'll maybe stick around. | 20:03 |
| ido- | wouldnt mind helping out | 20:03 |
| ogra | great :) | 20:03 |
| ido- | i'm new to ubuntu | 20:03 |
| ogra | hope you like it | 20:03 |
| ido- | i'm an embedded linux developer though | 20:03 |
| ogra | (despite the glitches) | 20:03 |
| ido- | at work that is | 20:03 |
| ido- | hrma | 20:32 |
| ido- | orga, still around ? | 20:32 |
| ido- | installed, still no evtouch driver on xorg | 20:32 |
| ido- | ok | 20:54 |
| ido- | got it fixed.. | 20:54 |
| ido- | how do i move windows that aren't resizable ?(so i can see the hidden part) | 20:54 |
| rhpot1991 | ogra: I tried out umpc on my eee, its pretty nice but I prefer more of a pure desktop for multitasking. | 22:09 |
| ido- | i think its geared twards umpc's | 22:22 |
| ido- | 7" | 22:22 |
| ido- | no screen realestate for many windows at the same time | 22:22 |
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